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Vroom in the Night Sky with Ify Nwadiwe

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Vroom in the Night Sky with Ify Nwadiwe

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After experiencing this game you know of the Games we've covered so far. This is the least confused I've been. Here's what's disorienting painting about it and let me introduce with as always our producer Matt Abadaka. Hi Matt suggested this week's game and it's terrible but it's terrible in a very it's an unusual way in a way wasn't expecting like frustrating. It's just like what what is going on. I I'm going to be the contrarian today and say. I don't think this is a terrible game. Wow I think it's a different kind of game and I'm willing to get into in my experience. Conflict is bad for podcasts so this is GonNa work so yeah our game. This week is room in the night sky for Nintendo switch. The publisher describes it as a quote magical bike action game and you control a magic girl named Luna and write a flying motorcycle to collect start us and without breakdown this game you know from near Deficit and Candy Dinner Iffy way is here hi Efi. How's it going? Oh I mean it's going. We're here ready to talk about this insane switch by game or you. You have a year a witch with a broom on your back but you're flying riding a bicycle like you're not flying on the broom. You begin on a scooter scooter. Yes like vespas. I said bicycle. You never actually have a bicycle motorbike. It's always motorized yeah yeah and I while we're talking. I totally figured what happened with this game. I know unlock did this game was just a SPEC game that they wanted to pitch to an anime company right and no one bought it so now it has all those placeholder like magical girl Luna and by the way they there's no other adjective us just magical this right when when it said magical speedometer and Mas- magical gas meters like okay yeah they just take magical and use it as a universal prefix for everything at one point. I showed you guys. There's there's a thing you can unlock called magical bench just like any no matter how mundane something is. It's magical in this world magical fuel meter magical gas station is another one yeah. I think it's important for for the audience because nobody has played this. Nobody's play this game. I think there's a possibility that we may that whoever developed it probably probably saw their numbers go up visibly four of US downloaded. They Graham. It's it's like the you know because so many of these charts these digital charts are based on percentage increase in sales so their sales went from up like four hundred percents it but from so so it's a game where you you ride motorcycle. Yes you fly through a large aerial area over a like a power plant or speech or a upbeat beye largest charitable a march and you you you fly through rings. Allah Superman Sixty four is very superman. It's superman sixty four for kids and then you also collect to start us which I like little crystals that our money yes you use those things to buy an unlock other bicycle like motorcycles more vehicles. It's very poorly translated. Yes from the beginning I wrote down some of the opening opening guide phrases it asks you. Are you the first time to play this game and then it says by the way the direction of key stars in invisible places is guided. Let's move in the direction of the Guide yes and then when you collect stardust it says gotten start us. It's like win a you know. If you've seen that thing where they'll like they'll like upload a video to youtube Cuban download it again in the re upload it and do that one hundred times. It's like that accept. This has been through Google translate back and forth one hundred times now. It's just indecipherable yeah but I want to step back real quick before we get into this and just talk about out because this is the first time I feel like we've got into the world of vehicle action racing games. Whatever you WANNA call this this genre? Are you guys vehicle gamers. Do you like playing card games. What how how do you feel on the genre in general I don't mind it? I think the last car game I played was <hes> what's the one ubi soft. I grid comes to mind but it's not grid. It's the like you race across different types of vehicles. Yes has the car the motorcycle I'll take a quick second to Google it so someone can stop screaming at there. I was GONNA say screen but is it the crew yes the crew crew to I played the sequel <hes> and it does that fun thing that games have been doing recently where like points or quantified likes and follows <hes> but before that like I was big grant charisma head you know definitely you know nick you grew up in L._A.. I've really got caught up in that tuner seen hot import nights <hes> all that so I was real I played this like flash game that was sponsored by a NATO tires that would have you drag race in like upgrade. Your car are with different parts. You know initial. D You know so. I'm a been around the track that crash the you said Flash crash game and it's reminding me of this one. Did you play this game. That was briefly a thing. I think it was called in a knock crash. Lucky I played into Nanka crat and I play. I was playing that obsessively for a while. You're just on a bicycle. I think you're you're like a as I am remembering a schoolgirl but it could be wrong but you're just like writing on a bicycle and then you crashing something you fly over the the handlebars and it just whatever trajectory you can hit to go to fly as far as possible right like you're competing for distant recall the bicycle part I recall a human man who's hit by something and then flies off into the distance and in combos off of other human rights okay and he makes this sound. Maybe conflicting different games. Go ahead Goo yeah. I was a big like as far as vehicle games go I. I don't love driving in real life and don't really love it in video games either. It's not like I will play Mario Kart because I feel like that's just like its first of all anything in the Mario World. I'm such a Nintendo guy that just I'm I totally a pop for that but it's it's not it's not a game <hes> he's done a general gravitate towards generally we either open world or that the track kind it's it's not it's not really for me. I heather how about you. I love a racing game. I created a Japanese switch account so I could get that virtual racing which which is smooth as fuck switch. I also am a big Daytona Fan. I played all the burnout series which is racing crash fantastic games. I played a pod racer which will get to later <hes> what are there and then in my real life. I drive a sports car. Dow My God I totally forgot. We totally connected on how much you like. Is it still busy. Yeah I drive seventy eight Datsun two eighty Z which I've modified and put in the new engine so I I love a car. I love my this is true and humiliating but I realized that <hes> in order for this podcast I have legs. I'm just going to have to like humiliate myself once a week. So when I was in kindergarten we'd write a poem about <music> out what we wanted to be when we grew up and so I wrote a poem C. Stand up in front of kindergarten as we were all leaving and it was like most kids are like I will be a doctor and I will save the world instead I got up and I said and I remember it because my parents recorded it and played waited for me every year yeah a racecar drivers what I'll be to the indy five hundred I'll go. I'll drive the fastest car so the others will seem slow and then I said and all the other kids like I feel like instinctively Collab- clap if you do that now demands around of apply see I feel like kindred spirits with heather yeah I was. I what I did the same thing but too late I wanted to be a drifter. I was like I I was reading initial. D Formula Drift came out right when I was in high school I started drift crew called streamlined drift and then nights sent it to my friend who could speak Japanese to have it in Japanese character under it and I and I just never ended up doing it but I was so into it but now I'm <hes> I'm chasing those dreams because that's what we do when we get older and realize we can just by whenever we want and I'm searching for to forty six if you've got a to forty S._X.. Out there maybe have a limited slip differential already set up for me. Let's let's go real motive for coming on this podcast comes out raising the so having having with your guys Phantom of Car Culture and and your background in games the that explore that how do you feel about room in the night sky which seems to have been designed by someone who's who's never been in a vehicle these these do not control it all like an another flying but they have no they don't have any of the weight of an actual vehicle they turned so weirdly magical yeah but it's it's bizarre to drive desire for it to be vehicle and right to handle that way so it almost feels offensive to call it a racing game because like I when I first played it I collected the stars and I was like Oh and then you find the exit. I just fly wherever you want and then leaving there is no race. There's this rival who pops up. Who I thought was a friend for so long I was? I thought I had a kindred spirit then she does. She got mad because I wouldn't pronounce her name right yet to Sukhothai think yes you just shows up and this is how non-threatening Shining Star to Suco is who's just basically purple version of the player character is you can play like three or four levels before figuring out. She's competing against you know <hes> and then even after that there's no complex you can't fail a mission like you're saying as a race. It's analogous to a Turkey day fun run. It's just it's just like because there's no. It's a race in the same way that like you can't lose. You can't fail everyone just there to have a good time. We're go around and collect fucking key stars and sparkle points whatever they think it's actually a pretty good game starting. I think that we are looking at room in the nights guy with the wrong metric or or measuring it by the wrong yardstick. I don't know what the fuck I'm trying to say. I think this is just a relaxing flying collecting game. Isn't it definitely relaxing yes. That's a that's something you we talked about a little bit beforehand and it's like a lot of previous some of the previous games we played on this podcast. I'm get frustrated infuriated by because they have like they're like arbitrarily challenging or they control so poorly and this game controls poorly but it's also sent since there's no pressure there's no fear of failure and since it's may mostly so trivial easy easy it is relaxing. You're just like whatever this sucks but I'm not stressed out about it but it's consistently poorly control Sarai feel like it's not poorly controlled. It's just like Oh. This control is unfamiliar fucking door. I fucking hate control in little big planet because it's fucking floaty and like all everybody like jumps all wobbly and shit like but this is this is the up it's tight looseness like there's a like a it's always drifts sort of the same okay. You always kind of fly. This way like it's not bad. It seems to control differently if you have magical turning enabled. I still don't know how you do that. I think it'd be magical breaking in time and acceleration out of it right. You'll get magical turning just a little bit more and more background game so as developed by Japanese developer named Poi- soft for Nintendo's switch. Perhaps they were planning on making it into a one piece game or something. If he speculated I has an abysmal metacritic metascore of seventeen. It was released least in two thousand seventeen so whatever fairly recently in considered one of the worst games of the year just one day you should know is that only the V. in room is capitalized so it's officially room in the night sky and night sky or lower case and and I- graphically graphically for me. This looks like the it's like the best looking game from nineteen ninety-seven it's like a ten eighty p sixty frame per second end sixty four game like it's Solo Paulie and the environments are so limited and the draw distance is not very far but at least it smooth yeah and also it does the thing where you normally when there's invisible walls in the game you just try and go and you hit it but they put like like something along the Ed so you know that's as far as you can go. Yes there yet. It seems like there was there. There were a lot of trade offs taken that like usually you have like a lush very detailed level that small or a not as detailed that's big. They're like no we'll just GONNA make it small and not as which blew me away away and and also like like you know same thing I keep seeing all the like hidden potential in this game and this could have been one of those horny games like they ran away because like she liked bins over when you try and like go over but like she has bloomers on and I was like Oh this feels like they're like look this can be for security card captor before this could be for sailor moon or can be one of those horny games. What do you want and no one bought it? They released join us to be a something that families can enjoy something to be something. That's pulled from the steam store. Boy You know something heather getting into dead is easy Z.. Fuck yet is getting out though is hard. Thankfully there's upstart dot com the revolutionary lending platform that offers smarter interest rates to help you pay off high interest credit card debt. 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I thought I from the whole thing kind of charming like I was like the same bad like I don't know why anything exist but it kind of reminded me of actually inspired me to replay Kanamori Damn Assi kind of that seem it's low Paulie but like stylized way I might did guys are really thought I mean like <hes> you've messed up a screen shot that looks like category to me like if it was if the ground was rendered with garbage then it would be the same sort of detail in depth as that old playstation two classic yeah you've got you've got a what I guess is. What's supposed to be a shrub or a Bush and it's represented with six polygons? Yeah no texture so it's very it's a very very basic graphical presentation and also like like I feel like the music there's one song it seems like that that plays in every level I it. It seems like maybe a different song and the main titles or was it just imagining that there's a theme song Boop Boop Boop Boop Boop boop boop boop boop Peru Peru like that right yeah and then other song. That's completely forgotten yeah. I don't remember what goes all even though I've listened to like four hours and a yeah but the music I feel like is it's fine. The sound effects are I mean there's no voice acting. It's all presented via text messages or what looked like text messages which will get to in more depth than a second but the sound effects the most omnipresent thing is the engine roar which I found truly annoy really really very grading which is like it sounds like electrical interference rate wasn't even the sound was that it vibrated. You're controlling feel like this is going to burn out my control so consistent <hes> I took a screen shot of this and I can show you guys on my switch. I have right here but the so if you go to the menu settings things if you go to the <hes> the options the configuration here can fig and you toggle through the options for vibration setting your options are weak weak normal and violence and if you use violent it is deeply unpleasant shaking like shit the whole time I couldn't play more than one level on violent. This feels like the kind of game aim that would really benefit from motion controls right like you know like you would like kind of feel like you're flying your bicycle around but it does. There's no motion control. Yes it's really I'm but still kinda. Relaxing its yeah it didn't like make me mad and there I kind of got motivated to keep playing it so yeah. We've as as heather touched on each level and I think there's there's like eight stages total. You are you're flying around trying to collect enough. Go Fly the start their ultimately immaterial except for unlocking more stuff <hes> but in terms of progression you've got to fly through all the key stars well. That's what they're called right. The key stars the rings with stars in them and then if you fly through enough of them the gate opens up the magical gate which it looks like a crescent moon surrounded by Shitty Christmas lights is just like a really like Janke looking thing you fly through that to the next level. Can I touch on one very minor thing that bothered me as a game that's that it has a racing element and where there are some challenges that are contingent on finishing time. There is no one two three go at the start of the level. There's no there's countdown it just finishes loading which takes different for how depending on the level and then the the clock is immediately going and you got Oh shit you know you gotta remember to put hit the accelerator during the loading screen and just be ready to go at any time that's the leash play every game we ready to go. Oh yeah and also the I remember like the first level I really win to my like loot hunter mode and I got much stardust as a can. It was like okay. Actually the second level must be harder some just going to go for all the star right and it really doesn't make a difference really super fast or super slow yeah but I mean heather others turned me on it. I really do the idea of something relaxing. I play a lot of Rainbow six siege ran. I Yell a lot so I'm like this might be like something I play in between. It's a pallet cleanser. I feel like it's something you play when you're in the lobby be we so I often like double game. We'll be in the lobby waiting for one game to start and I'll have a handheld game on on my couch. I got <hes> and some sometimes that's like tetris ninety nine. I'll play an entire thing while waiting for factions to load up but I feel like this is a great lobby game. You know look. It's just whenever you said lobby game and I was thinking hotel lobby radisson Jilin time much time. Do you spend in the AH I shouldn't radisson Marriott rewards by loyalties yeah so you you really the amount of start as you collect is really just for unlocking things and let's go through the shop real quick because I flagged a few two of the ones that you can a few the bikes that you can unlock just sort of give a sense of of what's happening here okay. Here's a bike the magical big scooter six hundred big American skin-tight magical bike of the legend that strike fear in the hearts of the magical girls exactly there is no need for arguing all right. I mean I know exactly what that by Harley. This one magical bike they can feel the universe through the night sky. It is out of the question that senior magical girls can not manipulate this. That's the magical richer seven fifty our senior yeah. Can we talk about nights guy for a bit too like every level is a night sky. I rate they're like it's like blink night. Scott Rice Sky Blank and I was like okay. There's there's one exception there is the there is the level that's just called the sky stages are the first one is the first one you start off with his night sky of the lovely which I ended up replaying endlessly because I found that was the quickest way to get started us in a hurry. When I wanted to try to unlock everything night sky of the queen the quiet desert night sky of the strange town which kind of as an Urban Matt Atmosphere <hes> nights guy the factory section seem sort of thing into their cityscape night sky of the ocean? The C. Spreads all over the seabreeze wrapping around you nights gay of the resort mood the sky it this guy is a completely sky and finally night sky of the chaos which is just like a weird like inception kind of world war buildings are flipping around and Shit <hes> yeah it and they're all very saving. They're all they're all at night yeah. Ah The chaos was my favorite one yet. I walked that one was like Oh. Let's this is like surreal. Let's have some surreal elements here. Let's feel like we're moving outside of reality of where I'm going to be this sort of weird magical girl thing. Did either of you do driving school only the first one yes because you can unlock the two million crystals what the fuck they're called. What are they stardust? Start us. If you just do the driving school on line two million and you can you can get all the best buy that way. They're trivial easy and that you get like one hundred thousand start as per challenge so it's like less than magical thrilling and what magical thrilling is you just have to go near an object three times go near an object to get the magical thrilling bonus. It's yeah it's it's so weird and it's it's like such a gigantic bonus that it does make sense not to do but then it also kinda kills the point of grinding these levels intriguing all the start us because there's just easier ways to acquire at all yeah just completely unbalanced the way that youtube and gain and like metacritic reviews have called this the worst game ever game of all time. I think that's both Hyper Malik and I I think it's wrong not as bad as the other Games we've played and we are at far into this podcast so like any research any depth of of game library knowledge is going to tell you this isn't that bad of a game. It sucks yeah. I mean it's not good but it's not terrible if you here's what I'll say okay. What are you going to say neck? If you play games like if the reason you play Games is I WANNA challenge if you're someone who like you like the dark souls games. You know you really like that's that's why you're you are individual games. This is like so unsatisfactory on that level I one hundred percent of this game not finished at one hundred percent at got every achievement achievement in under four hours dark souls person. You're a different breed. You're the person who likes plan with the older brother. Who's going to stick his ass in your face while you're trying to play your challenge colonel like myself? You're not a dark souls player right now. No I'm not I'm not even like good at this type of game so you're you're saying that there's like to there's two kinds of people and you are of room in the sky high like this game no I it's like it's like a bad game but it can see how why people would think like this game sucks because it might just be exactly the opposite of what you want from a video game experience from something that's interactive. I feel like this would be a fun game. If had multi player and you right someone racing against you get the stardust and you could fire those magical missiles and each other in like knock crystals and stuff out of one great by the way didn't know about the missiles until I got here. Nick Fan Moore's missiles. I just kept trying to run into yes her and we'd bounce away from each other and I was like how do I stop her. You can finish the entire game without using missiles <hes> it's it's completely ancillary to the main game play a buddy. What is the one way you can kill your rival Suco and by the way one time I hit two SUCO with a rocket Harry three times with rockets to eliminate or I'm still unclear on that and she says something different each time and one time what she said was screw you the same is like four like it feels like it's designed for young girls and it's like you're six year? Old Daughter is seeing screw you for the first time for an explanation in some more dialogue in the game. Don't be shy say smoking something misspelled. I am a ferry reply. What is going on magical? Girl is a comfortable job did you you here's one I really like. You're putting on some weight. Don't say that it's because growth period. I never saw that one I saw did you say yes. I saw the ferry you have a fairy sidekick. Who's relationship do you is unknown and at some point it says something like you guys are weird? Now is my favorite part was when you you have dialogue with the other witch and then the fairies like you guys are weird silence so get judgmental navy yeah just like it's it's an interesting Alabama. <hes> the Polygon had an article about the dialogue and this is by allegra frank from from two thousand seventeen so the version we were playing was the patch diversion rate dated the script. The script used to be worse but if you look at it. It's really not so that here. Here's an example the script used to be. It's an antenna. It's radar so that was one of the old lines. Here's the new the new line is it's an antenna no it's raider and they misspelt so they made no and then they misspelled radar in the update another one is they just changed. I'm sad that she is quiet too. Don't be shy say smo- things so again so that one was another one that came via the update so like I it's it's they've they've created more problems and trying to patch this up can they didn't fix the ones that existed. Can you imagine being at this development studio and somebody being like they're all complaining that it's not very good translation. Can you guys put in another other day on sky. We'll give you half a day. Larry don't even have to pay me. I will pay myself to do the H._d.. remastered texts like but it's going to be dirty what this is supposed to be a Horny game in the bears like I know you're breaking the fourth wall. Yeah it so it's just fucking crazy. Here's one thing I liked about it. So there is like kind of you you're getting bonuses for doing different moves and you can get into that sort of Tony Hawk pro skater sort of send mode of you're just doing a bunch of tricks in or sequence you know you doing the magical trampoline into the magical break into the magical. Ah Evasion into the magical thrilling Miss Yeah what I what magical collision avoidance something like that yet whatever they're all magical but you if you stack a bunch of those in a row it's kind of fun to see those bonuses add up and then did to suddenly you can get something that would normally be worth. One thousand points is now worth over two thousand because you've you've stacked a bunch of bonuses as you were zooming through a key star so that's fun but again it's kind of immaterial because these these starburst star dusts don't seem to matter all that much. Let's see oh so we mentioned now. No one's played this game because I was trying to figure out how to unlock some things are at least what were the most efficient Min Max methods and there are no guides for this game online. Ah Shitty Shitty game has to be for like not. There's isn't one board eight-year-old just like this is the one game they got for Christmas because their grandma bought the wrong one and they just replace obsessively and like fucking up with us on game facts. Not even that happened and I I think I I I'm not that this is going to be a segment but I might WanNa have a segment called hot. Take and here's my hot take for this is that this is as much a video game as journey is which is your very beloved game replay that like I don't Know Long Cape wearing like little dude but you can't lose either game. The controls are extremely simple. There's not really anything to do except collect parts and then the game ends right yeah differences. There's a story in one and not a story in the other. I think it's like to me. There's a lot of like what what how aesthetics and presentation effects that experience you know because journey is sort of like it. It feels immersive and this one at does I. It's just it's there's so many things take you out of this experience. You know sure I don't know I guess I get what you're saying. It's like a similar sort of experience. It's missing being smoking is missing smell if you so yeah but it is kind of like it's there are other non games that are critically revered yeah. This is the same as that. It's just I feel feeling why people are judging is the aesthetic because you're not anything I mean. There's a story that's missing again. Story is missing. There is no story rights game but like why judge like flying around on a fucking couch versus like hopping around in a desert. They're both equivalency not happening. Yeah I mean and and to talk on you're you're not store. No story point there really is no story like you can finish every level and get every achievement event and this is the closest you get to a resolution you get a pop up dialogue when you finish the final achievement for there's no cinematic when you finish the final level. There's nothing at all. There's no like any sort of sense a completion but then when you if you get all twenty achievements the last one you get is at last you have mastered the magical girl. I remember that day when I met you for the first time already you're not the one who is running slowly on scooter. You are a wonderful magical girl and you are proficiency ency Larry Great. I guess honestly did not expect. There's I mean there's more screened the first four dialog box wars more Yeah Oh man I mean it's one of the things on this show. I feel like we got we gotta wrestle with. There's not a lot to talk about here because there's not a lot of game so in goodbye but yeah I guess at this point. There's nothing nothing else to do except for <hes> to get to our reviews so we'll each go around. We'll say something positive and give the game a numerical decimal rating <hes> all begin so as you start to unlock things the game it gets increasingly surreal and a few of the items you can unlock our our vehicles of the magical car and the magical car you don't drive you sit on top of in a few straddle it like you're writing a camel who's sitting on top of the the roof of the car and flight around like so there's the the magical car the magical the airliner same sort of thing you straddle it the magical adjective plane the magical chair magical bench magical bus and then finally the magical train that was just so bad shit and unexpected <hes> and I kind of smiled as what was happening so for that reason I'm giving in this game a two point zero like evenly even two point zero heather. How about you what is a game? That's I mean that's what we started this podcast so I think think that when we when we really closely examined the question what is a game. What is the goal of a game what are supposed to be doing that? He if we judge this based on say Super Mario Brothers yes then this is not a game so then what is it. It's just a meditative experience where you move your thumbs around right because there's no goal. There's no there's nothing right. It's just there's nothing yeah room. I'm in the night sky is nothing right but it is one hundred percent. Nothing therefore I am giving this not a game ten her they don't agree with if so you hear like if you winning a movie theater and you're there to see a movie then you're like and the movies just like a bunch of random screens sure one right after the other you wouldn't be able it'd be like Oh. This movie is an F. because what you're doing is not seeing a movie if you saw two if you went to see a movie and they play play two hours of like the flying toasters screensaver right then you'd be like well. That's not a movie and be like there was no plot to this movie. We sure that you'd like this isn't a movie. I think in the same way this is not a game. There's no way to lose. It's the same as a d._V._d.. Menu where you just like press in one direction till you loop around so it's a ten. It's a ten out of D._V._D.. I may be very impressive. This was a d._v._d.. Menu so by that Standard Yeah <hes> if he saw something positive and your your numerical score I will say you know as Wonky and crazy he has the text was that did bring me Choy and your your review reminded me of one of my favorite voice or tax lines is one of the ferry says desert. What does it make you think of and one person goes camel and the other goes cactus and I will say reading those didn't make me smile popped up so that's that's great? <hes> you know I you know I truly enjoy and believe had their stance but if I paid for a movie and the thing I watched was in a movie theater Rangel rated as such. I will say I've played games that are literally unplayable so I can't give it zero. <hes> I played final fantasy seven so I can't give it a ten <hes> but I will say it's a little better other than I can see myself. I know that a few months down the line I'm being an air airplane and I'M GONNA be tired of breath of the wild. I'M GONNA BE TIRED OF MONSTER HUNTER. Be Tired of everything and I'm going to open up room in the night Scott. I'm going to be pointed on an airplane so for that. I'm going to three point five three point five wow. This is a wall score game. Matt up your thoughts. I I so for me. I really admire the guts to have a character design who has a a broom attached to her at all times strapped with the broom you sort of Jessica which I know magical girls not outta which <hes> excuse me on that earlier that broom in your mind you see magical girl you think this broom can fly. Does she ever fly in this room at all never not once and for that. I think I gotta give it. I'M GONNA give it a two point five. I just really liked that choice. It's very funny to be Matt. You may want to mend your score a little bit here because there you can unlock a broom ultimately and you do fly around on it and it controls like shit then I gotta give this a ten. That's perfect do when she when she has the broom the broom off her back or is she double brooming. Do you know she's got the there's no broom on her back at that point ten. I thought that was that was that was our collective. Take on broom in the night sky but hey maybe we're wrong <music>. I it's time for some reviews from some other sources and one's a little tricky because you know it's a more modern game. A lot of the positive reviews are trolling <hes> but here's one that seems sincere. This was on metacritic. This was from a user warrior warrior. Oh I'll just read some of this. You either love this game or hate. It priced at ten dollars. This is a great by especially if you have a young daughter I guarantee any young girl will love this game. It's easy fun. The music is very pleasant. My only gripe is that there isn't too much content but that is to be expected with this kind of game. The visuals are perfect very reminiscent of the thirty to sixty four bit era but without the graphical clipping etc era. I'm quite surprised and also pleased that game like this was localized a great addition to the switch lineup this guy just like this this. This was like I think is worry a warrior was that like your alias Heather a rave disguise completely the <hes> ended into this <hes> experience. I guess for the same reasons you are warrior warrior was Mario. Why are you a warrior? Mario is Mario is worry. Oh but warrior warrior is Mario <hes> just as a philosophical the point that I wanna read you need to read you the entirety of an entry from the speed run forum on room in the night sky so this this game is hilarious and I wish I could run it more but the categories are all little lacking all stages is fun but it's really really short and it doesn't really show off all the funny stuff the game has to offer and all memories is just well too much grinding one stage so I came up with some my ideas for some extra categories that might be more fun show of the funny text in the game and might be better in a marathon setting and then this continues like he breaks down. All these different speed running categories. <hes> let me know what you guys think about adding those categories that love to try and get this game into marathons not necessarily just G._D.. Cues for humor quality but the current categories are just lacking the right amount of game. There's only one reply on the form and it's it's fucking room in the nights guide dude. You're mad now. Go nuts nuts. If you hooked up your switch to a solar power generator you could in theory play room in the night sky until the son went out right. There's nothing stopping this game from being the last testament to humanities and then you'll be rooming in the eternal night sky yes. That's Nice Nick tried. She'd be proud I am you. Try to unlike the developers this game. I tried. I'm hey it's time for the question block so we got some questions from you guys and we opened it up generally to racing games to all things to all things in the genre I one of from at really underscore Allen whited snoop dogg not make more songs like his writers in the storm remix mixed from need for speed underground to play but at this kicks the trip together story riders on this stall riders Understo- aw switch support custom soundtracks. I didn't want you to stop. That's a good question. I'm not. I'm not sure I'm not sure if if it does are you trying to play room in the next I be such a smooth feeling right. It's just so mellow yes so that as far as I can tell you can speak to this a little because you played for need for speed underground so this was used. I'm not not crazy. It was used in the Promo for knee for speed underground to I cannot search because I loved that song. That song was on a mix CD for me <hes> then like when everyone's like oh domino's like it's not now back on my bullshit. That was a good song still slaps now. I'm about to put you can't find it on spotify I try and find it on spotify after play Youtube to listen to it in my car while Dr <hes> but yeah knows like that was the big promo and it's probably where they put most of their budget in need to right to get that co lab going as far as I can tell it is exclusive to need for speed it is it is a game that is a song rather that snoop made specifically remix that he made specifically for this so yeah. It's not a compilation or not available anywhere else <hes> yeah why didn't he. I don't know they probably didn't pay him enough yeah but as far as why didn't he do it on on more games but yeah I I mean there are doing an exclusive song for a game like rules. I mean that's like that's like you know they kingdom arts or final fantasy when and then exclusive pop song like it's awesome. I wish there was more of that and I love that <hes> who tyler he could who's always like now I got Joe. I'm trying to think of other <hes> I can't think of any other like exclusive video game song yeah <hes> Florence and the machine in final fantasy fifteen saying her own cover of <hes> stand by me really yeah and it was excellent. It was really good. It was moving. That's all guys I got nothing else to add and do you know what I like about. Writers in the storm is it reminds me of <hes> some of my favorite tent pole fast and furious tracks. You know you got back to fool for for on for. into fast and furious the <hes> the there's furious which was for the first fast furious by jowl rule <hes> Tokyo drift by the Teriyaki boyz which is a slap aronie. I don't care what are you buy says. If frigging slaps I still listen to those <unk> <hes> two songs active full and <hes> Tokyo drift and then it kind of falls off until we get Wiz Khalifa's tribute to the late Paul Walker that did almost make me cry last night because I guess it was the anniversary and so like I got done watching watching always be very sensitive and then I saw like it played the scene from <hes> from fast and furious where like he leaves and it's and I was like damn so I'm in a I gotta say car-based <hes> <hes> you know racing based songs. You can't lose said. Does that make you a fan of the crazy taxi soundtrack. Oh Hell Ya oh one hundred percent. Can you win crazy taxi. Yeah you can always felt like you. I acute only make it till enough. drop-offs break loss like it didn't seem like I can you can win. I mean it was originally arcade game and like I never I never beat it either. I just like I was. I was always like hey you know what hey that's. That's survival level capitalism on your just hustling to stay alive that game as a metaphor four. I think you could win. You could beat each track all dreamcast positive I only played in the <hes> in the arcade. Yeah never owned a dreamcast. Unfortunately oh you should get one another real cheap and they do king still get those tiny memory cards that you can put your shelby's in the V._M.. You I seem so all that stuff garbage right now but as soon as it gets nostalgic it'll be expensive right. Get one controller is a real like your risk surges so yeah 'cause it's like straight and so your your wrist or completely out of alignment when you're holding it but the the that's a great system heather. Do you have a question yeah I from <hes> entered the avoid at brain snap on twitter thoughts on Star Wars e one racer the pod racing game it was just as commercialized as the rest of the garbage that was episode one and I played the hell out of it but I certainly don't remember really enjoying any event. I do have thoughts. Yes I fucking loved episode one pod racer both on the end sixty four and on the dreamcast. I thought it was it was on dream cash. It was an excellent game. Yes that was pulled out of a trash foundation like like the samples were good play. You raced to John Williams music and you like all the cars are great. The tracks were great. It was a great game and if you've got that little like what the ad on thing you snapped into the top of the memory every packed up the specs on your end sixty four it was it was a good game took your ran from like four megabits to eight megabits like this this gigantic graphical upgrade I will even say that pod racing as a whole new and was cool like I was all about the aesthetic I love grunge and you know in yeah I played it but I played like the arcade one at chucky cheese yeah that one was superfund but I don't know if you saw saw the that. There is one person working their ass of. I think you might have been the person that did you re tweet tweet. You might be the reason I played it but I downloaded and you've played the H._d.. Remake of power they have a demo. It's only one track but you can like. It's pretty good but it's it's. There's no challenge but I mean you did like room in the sky going yeah the and contrary had there. I refuse to concede that it was a garbage foundation. If you're referring episode one I like that. I like episode. I mean it's not it's not a great movie. It's probably the weakest of the Star Wars but it is an S._M.. Cool stuff off within it and pod racing to your point is one of those things I I like the the padres game I do like everything about pod racing except for Ben quadrant arrows. I don't like his character design. That guy looks like Shit stubby weird guy with these like he's got like you stubby. His space is part of his body and in his limbs or too thin and it's like a Hainault he looks which one is the guy who's like the main antagonist. That's the Boba oh I thought he was so cool. I was like this guy looked so cool yeah this. This is very lame but why my friend and I saw one together when we go by Sepulveda's a street here in Los Angeles. We'd say it like Sibolga say Paul. I know that stories alike. It's you mentioned having a here's a question from from Stuart de Jenkins on our instagram. How do you feel about normal games that have one always shitty racing level would sonic CD fall into this is sonic CDs bonus level racing level because it controlled like shit? I know the Three D. one yeah yeah yeah those ones I revisit them Sonic Manian and not particularly fun yeah. They're awful right so by that. They suck well. What was the question? How do you feel about normal games that have one always shitty racing levels? You know I especially that's a very true for open World Games. There are a lot of open world games that a lot like a fighting controls. The movement on fetus are is really great but then as soon as you step into a cards trash and they always force a chase or race like this is bad and don't give me started on the Mako <hes> even though I've had a few Mako <hes> apologised who really liked the Mako and mass effect that shit is garbage. Why I I was so happy mass effect to when we did away away with Mako <hes>? Do you know I just realized what room in the nights guy reminds me gummy ships in kingdom heart what it is same low polly bullshit environment with stars in the background and you can't really lose like you just fly around. That's what it's like. Okay now. I change my scored zero. It is just like a playable loading screen like you're saying because it's sequences just to get you to the next thing in that again. Yeah Yeah there are some you know the the always side of the exceptions to the racing levels the ones that I really liked her in the donkey. Kong country series the mind car levels those are those are really well done and those are always a treat however there's a there's a mind cart right level in captain towed treasure tracker. which was the game I was really can afford to and I got to that? As what the fuck is this shit. That's the only applied captain towed fucking mind car out of here to get Yelich shoot shooting element like this is opposed the puzzle game. What am I doing here? Was this twitch game play. They really pisses me off. Turning Bright Red never been this fascism is rising in America but this I'm living. I've got one more question. Yes I'd love to hear your thoughts on desert bus on Penn and teller unreleased SEGA CD game. I remember reading reviews of desert bus in E.. G. M. and was super psyched about it. It is a game that in real time you drive a bus from I think L._A.. You to Las Vegas. You can't just let the controller drive for you. Even though the road is featureless because the bus has a slight poll to the left rate so you do have to engage this five our we're real time journey through the desert in a bus what yet check check check it out. Look at the give it pull up a screen shot said an and your home Google this right now there it is at full resolution A it's a it's a featureless fearless landscape the interior of bus and then you drive right yes but it wasn't released for Sega CD because I think the platform itself <hes> flopped before the game could be released. It has come out since hasn't it. I think there's a there's a way I don't know if it was officially released but there there is like a playable version you can get your hands on. Maybe just someone leaked development. Some I just want to point out that met clicked on a youtube video of playthrough in it is eight hours because it's a round trip. I think you have to go to Vegas and back so yeah that's about about how long it takes. <hes> we're watching some of us. So the the the screen you start up <hes> is kind punch clock and yet it's very slightly drifting so there has to be some user control just to keep this thing on this on the straight narrow this this game first off. This is brilliant. If I was <hes> trolling comedian yes performer and I was like Oh yeah you want to license a game here. Here's some ideas for my game. This is really this right had anything like this. Come out at the time a game that was specifically designed to upset set the user. It's it's like an anti game. I mean there. There were some Monty Python Games that did this similar thing. They were just sort of you know they. They had moments that were just intentionally confusing. I suppose it but nothing nothing like this that is just like so viciously good unfunded so decidedly like a just a challenge for the sake of being a challenge. If he noticed the length of time the video has I just noticed the number of views which is eight three of the people who have watched this given it a thumbs up zero have given it a thumbs down the other five people just watched and didn't return and hey if you have any questions or comments for US H._D.. G. pod awed on social. Media is our hands H.. D. G. T. P. pod faulk how this get played but as letter Todd Yeah Okay H._d._t._v. g. p. pod on social media yeah there we go and hey it's time for new segment. Let's see if our panel can out act the worst voice acting in video game history. This is via theater. Uh Our game this week is nine hundred ninety. Seven's mortal Kombat for this clip is from the infamous. Jack's ending in which Jackson's partner Sonia Confronts Jerick the last member of the Black Dragon clan so for this one on Heather U._C._l._A.. Sonia if he'll be Jerick Matt you'll be jacks and I will read stage directions truly feel like I was snubbed on Jack's but if he has want to switch roles but Derek is definitely the media role. Okay take to try your best to sound like me. That's all I will not all. I it's the point of this that we're actually trying. I think try to do your best trying to act like a video game would act you know what I think. Just make whatever choice you feel like is the right choice. These don't mean do do your best best. You're trying to win this role. All you're trying to get cast okay okay here. We go so we begin. Sonia Jerick are perched on a cliffside. It's over Jerick. Shock is dead the good guys one. You're coming back with me. Never so you agree agreed to help. Defeat Chinook not turn myself into special forces. The Black Dragon lives on the Black Dragon died with Kaneohe. You're the last one Jerick never jerk charges Sonia but she step aside and topples over the cliff falling into do the abyss Sonia picks up radio come in major begs. This is Lieutenant Sonya Blade what somehow jerks clung to the cliffside and reaches up from below to grab Sonya's ankle and poor demise suddenly Jackson peers grabs Jerick by the throat and dangles over the cliffs edge going somewhere Jerick Jacks. I thought you were thought it was what dead like my partner. You just tossed off the cliff. Wait wait wait this brutality. You can't do it wrong Jerick. This is not a brutality. This is a fatality Jack's releases grip trumping Jerick to his death and seen wow well done and guys while played that was that was really good that was stirring but let's hear how it was supposed to go over. Jerick Shinnecock is dead the good guys one. You're coming back with me. You've never thought you for myself into the special forces. The Black Dragon Black Dragon died with Kaneohe. You're the last one Jarykh the brakes. This is Lieutenant Sonya Blade bad going somewhere Jerick what dead by just tossed off the clip wait brutality. You can't do it wrong Jerick. This is not a metality vis a fake talent the what we really what that guy's performance was wonderful but I think what was really missing was a jerks death noise awesome. I you know I did not in my brain. Imagine region how that play down which is the marching like Sonia killed herself. She marched backwards to the edge of a cliff rate that had the graphics of Lawnmower Man. Yeah I mean graphically on par with room in the night sky just not ten A._D._p.. Thank that looked terrible in the night sky ten out of ten on graphic. You're being charitable to it but hey charitable. You mean magic charitable on shots wrap up this episode everybody way thank you so much for joining us anything. You would like to plug in his time. Oh yeah just listener too. Isn't it drops I every Tuesday <hes> <hes> we just do <hes> me and Danny Fernandez do nerdy deep dives into <hes> just <hes> any dirty topic and then Mondays Candy dinner me and Man Abadaka who you're here. If you like to hear me antagonize him on a weekly basis <hes> definitely pull up for that very fun Yep Yep. Is this your guys. Dynamics Matt being very fun. No He's being nice listening to this. You're probably like video games. I stream on twitch. If ds I F. B.. E. Z. and we play lots of fun. Video Games are right and hey. We play lots of fun video games to let us know if you have any suggestions for future games we tackle again. It's social media H._D.. T. G. P. pod. What are we playing next week next week? We're playing Michael Jackson's moon-walker oops.

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Hour 1: 6/11/20

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That you may have missed while you've been out doing whatever a talking about. A different model. From DOT COM ACOUSTIC, model and crisis to crippling impact of schools cutting sports. We talked about that the other day with Chris Fini, and it is one of the pervading pervasive themes throughout the world of intercollegiate athletics more about that today. Meanwhile this comes from three man front in Birmingham. We'll talk to kill Cuba who does one of the three men on that. They have learned that Alabama has has had three more players test positive for covid nineteen, the three players who tested positive for a symptomatic part of the second round remember last week. We heard of five other players and we're still trying to get a handle on. What some people say is rather a rather chaotic. Beginning to the college football season, we expected it, but still not good news. Activism seems to be the theme and Lane Kiffin said. We're off to a great start. Remember. We saw Kiffin the other day at a rally in Oxford and. There's more to be done now. This is a theme that we continue to see throughout college football in We'll see more of it. This weekend I can assure you especially at a couple of places that we have been talking about including Clemson Trevor Lawrence speaking today to the media. Saying I've had a lot to learn, and it's been cool to learn from these guys. I think coach Sweeney. It's easy to judge some things he does, but the biggest true testament to who he is or the people around him every day, the glowing views. We have of the person. He is certainly surprising comments. They're coming from the starting quarterback at Clemson. That's a story that has been with us. And meanwhile the confederate flag is finally gone at Nascar Races and I won't miss it for a second. That's Ryan McGee although I. Think a lot of people out. There would echo. Those thoughts been I've been on. Various shows today from ESPN early in the morning to others talking about that, and we will get our first chance to dig it on the subject here in just a few minutes at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five, so that's how we set up here. On a Thursday afternoon I mentioned that we'll talk to Ryan McGee a little bit later on. He wrote that piece for ESPN. He'll be with us. Cole Cubelic as well Pat, forty one of the great writers in the country from SL and Michael Collins on there. There is real golf today for the first time from Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, and we'll talk to Michael about that. But, I mentioned your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five. The it has been before. We even get started I didn't interview today A. Callers to the show with the New York Times and I have to say how energize I have been over these last three weeks. It's been difficult I. Think I think we all know that for all. The subject matter has been uncomfortable to say the least there have been some good days and bad days, but I do appreciate everyone's honesty regardless of how you feel. That's not really what we require. Here is point of view. We just simply. Ashore, in hope to get an honest conversation, and that's what we've been getting, so let's get to the phones. I mentioned the number eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five. We are starting today with. With. Larry who was in Maryland Larry Great to have you on again. Thank you and welcome back to the show. thank you Paul A well to respond to a caller who said what said were slaves who fought for the confederacy. Responded to that question. some black slaves eight. It's a confederacy. Most of them were forced to accompany their masters over forced to be cooked. Manual Labor's ought to do the things. But me! Would not. Larry there. there. You Larry. Let me help here for a second disregard, the TV in the background that it's just going to distract you. Okay. I, but would not legally allowed to serve as combat soldiers in the confederate army. This is not the Slayton that no slave filed a gun for the confederacy. Yeah. Listen. If, you go back to that period of time and if you were. It's not like a slave I'm not that I was there. I just read. It's they really have much choice in the matter, so you're right, very interesting point. If you look at the official records of the war or Rebellion which is collection of military records from both the confederacy, and the you, they're only seventeen union soldier eyewitness reports from a small number of plays fire net them. However there is no record of union so to the Cowan an all black group, confederate soldiers, or anything close to it. Okay well listen I. You know I I I said this before, and I'll say it again. the civil war is. In an leading up to it is my weakest subject in American, history And maybe it was just voidance because I. Didn't have a I didn't as I've said I wasn't involved or my family wasn't involved, but I'm going to go back in. And Dig in here because I think there's a lot I need to learn, and I appreciate that Larry and I'll I'll report back to you tomorrow. GATOR man is upset of next in Mississippi gator man. You are on the go right ahead. Hey Paul I wanted to talk about NASCAR's decision on the confederate flag and to me it just all the more shows that NASCAR is out of touch with their audience. NASCAR is it's a southern sport and. A lot of the P. It's predominantly a white sport, but for the most part it's. The common man and This shows that they've just gone way off on their liberal. way of thinking and. It's not to set well with Their fans and they're going to lose even more people because. The only reason they're going towards all this stuff because the ratings are going down and they want to get more fans, but they're not gonna get any more just Gejerman. Let's talk about this for second because I I was on a program earlier today and you know somebody close to Nascar said. They thought this was going to be a really positive thing. I agree with you, not exactly in everything you said but I don't think it's really gonNA HELP NASCAR I don't think Nascar can be helped right now. I think it's A. And I'm not talking about the ratings. It has received the. When were no other sports? I'm talking about generally speaking I think the sport is in deep trouble I. Think this was something that they felt they had to do. I covered NASCAR many years ago and I found it to be the most segregated. Sport that I've ever been around. and I did a story about twenty years ago. Interviewing the head of NASCAR in many other people about the lack of the lack of people of color and they didn't care. Their audience was white Middle America. WHITE MIDDLE-CLASS SUTHERS! And they didn't. They didn't need to appeal to anyone other than that that core group. They've started. They started losing that group as you know when they tried to go mainstream. When they tried to go to Vegas in Chicago and New York and California. I mean NASCAR. has not done anything right. I don't think in the last twenty five years I i. do agree with this decision, but I don't think it's really gonNA. Help Sport. Yeah I think they do way better. If they went back to their way of doing things, they stayed more in the south as far as they went to. Some of these like Rockingham North Carolina the exact. Same well. I it's. It's a sport right now. I mean I I i. don't cover it anymore. I'm mildly interested in it, but I love the the when I covered it. I mean you had the allison gang. You had Richard Petty. You earnhardt coming along I. Mean it was a it was like wrestling. Everybody favorite driver. If you're a dale. Walter Fan, you hated the other guy. If you were earnhardt fan I, mean it. Didn't you know now to me? It's A. Very corporate sport I mean there's an occasionally interesting part of it, but but but I, am mentioned it hearing what what the core NASCAR fans thinks because. I mean when I heard overnight was. This is going to open the sport up too far more fans. I don't believe that you. Know 'cause most of the people I know this isn't GonNa. Make them any more interested than it was. A bunch of cars running in circles in I. Don't know I mean. I'm all all that. Other people speak, but. I I I maybe I'm judging too far in the past, but. I mean I can't imagine. Your people of Color. In the past having felt comfortable going to a NASCAR race. Yeah How would you feel? Yeah. Thanks for the call. I hope it I hope I hope it saves sports a great sport, but I think this was just something that had to do about the way that you said something a minute ago. I have never heard my entire life. The phrase Liberal Nascar in the same sentence. We will take a break mortem. More of your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four to seventy eight five back after this. You're listening to the Paul. Finebaum show podcast welcome back great to have everyone here on a very busy Thursday afternoon. Willie is up next now. Willing. Thank you could after him April. I'm well Nice if you've got. Yeah last time I talked to follow. It's been years ago. We talked y'all talking about the. Things that we're having to Alabama with Kirby, go into Georgia and stuff like that. That was a long time ago, but right now. Just calling about this all the uproar going on about the confederate flag in the book burning is going on, and you know the tearing down the statues I don't agree with it. And before it gets out of out of control I'm I'm just declaring right now. My my name is Willie. Manning I live in Washington and I'm declaring that I don't I'm not for it? If I had to choose the side now it will be on the side of the Southern Gentleman That's that's that's. That's how it would break it down. That's why would go it. Because this the burn and he was with the cool heads and I don't see. Everything is an emotional on the other side and. When you start doing things like the doing. Renaming military bases. It's. It's a shame but so I'm declaring. Before so so that it'll be no before things get out of control. Who Sat on? Definitely not! It's an interesting conversation and I I. Mean I've seen this happen many times before I. I'm not I'm not wild about going back with you because it is a slippery slope willing for this reason. You could go. You could go through the Washington DC with every monument up and find a reason to take one down. Where will inflow? Yeah. It's A. Full for the game. This is a sports show so I make a sports for the love of the game. Begun to be cooler heads, because just like Michael Jordan was saying when he was a says something in India. He said you know Republicans. Be They buy tickets? The Basketball Games to. Southern We. I'm a southern. We we. We bought tickets to these games to just won't be the same if if if the spirit as Matt Fair, and and let's face it. There's no defense anymore in the NFL. When the scores seventy eighty, and then you've got? Broadway on the field, I don't WanNa see Broadway shows on the field after a touchdown with the choreography in in in in over a touchdown Ms. let's get serious. You know I I came up with the pros in touchdown, and it was a class act. But So, let's face it for the love of the game. Somebody's GonNa have cooler. His is too much emotion. Willie, thank you, thank you very much. Read is up next. tanks great to have you on. Hey, by. Well Man Back to the NASCAR topic and confederate flag I grow up. I still live here about thirty minutes away from out I guess speedway. make it a point to go the race at least once a year. They have to raise their year you brought up. The topic of you know how many people that are of African American. You know feel comfortable going to the race and I don't know if you've ever been to Talladega of the Infield to the camp ground. There's people of all races colors, and it's everything that happens. There is a good time. Nobody's really necessarily worried about race and I think that NASCAR pulling this start was more because they felt like they had to. Especially having A. Level Lawless. African Americans driver I'm actually a big fan of in the inner circuit I. Think it was just all more of a media stunt at anything else. and. I don't know what your take on that. I have been there many times. I agree and. I think I think I think. I think I. Think tracks have become more multi. Cultural in recent years. Than they were maybe in the sixties or seventies, but I think you're exactly right. one person really created this cause. And he did it very effective Lee at the right time, and by the way I mean I. I know what Nash Car said yesterday, but but in the aftermath of the. Tragedy in Charleston five years ago. They also said we don't want you to bring. Confederate flags attraction and didn't I. Don't think it affected one person. Right and I don't I. DON'T Know How A. Because I, mean like you said you've seen the campgrounds out. there. Yet are battling read. Are you going to sand? Are you going to have a an I. Don't mean this disparagingly toward I think. It's Talladega County, isn't it? Whatever the county is in. Over there. Are you going to send the? Are you going to a county sheriff to to to drag somebody's confederate flag on I? Think I think at a race. They probably have more important things to do. Right exactly and especially at. The some of the activities that go on out there, but out of the point that I was trying to get through. Really GonNa enforce that the campground you and I don't think you can Probably! Yeah exactly and I think you might. You might start with public drunkenness. Public Nudity all kinds of other things before the flag. And I you know I know a lot of the security? People worked out of data and I think they would decide that. They probably have better things to do. Then get into a brawl with with a bunch of people over a telling them to take their flag down now. It's a problem. It's an issue everywhere. I mean how many College Football Games have you been to? How many fraternity rose if you've been to where? The flag is is omnipresent. It's just a way of life and. Thanks for the call I man. Is Calling next good afternoon. Paul you know for the record I have had I haven't held a confederate flag in over forty five years and I'm sure your interview was bought the New York Times. I'm sure you're you're fair and reasonable with your callers, and you understand the motion, and who real people are and I think you probably very complimentary live most of. All your show because I think most of your show. If not all of it agree that something's got to be changed. Paul I won't turn back sometime. We you actually start covering sports in Birmingham for the Piper in the early eighties. Okay, so you were also hanging out with Jim Five and John for me foreign again and you're going to see you were going to bring you. You probably well aware of everything going on Birmingham. High School wise are somewhat so you? You kinda Nikolov athletes and coaches, and and and everybody in the town of sorted. And you got a better grasp on it. The longer you were there. When he was hanging out with John -fornia Jim Fife and doing radio show troop Did. Anybody ever mentioned that that outstanding athlete Jim from Tuscaloosa to you. I'm in. I'm pretty sure they did, but you know that's a long time ago, so it's obvious I just forgot. You forgot, but you remember my first call. You remember gyms for. Your first call was twenty years ago. This was. This was twenty years ago I. I don't know. Precisely I mean nobody ever mentioned if Jim was mentioned to you? Was it Kinda like this, and there's this winter like rover. There you. You'll know you'll know when you hear it. All have a great day. Thank you. Oh Man let's. Check in with mark next in New Orleans. Hey, mark great to have you on. AM. I'm well, thank you. Iowa listen yesterday you would call to. A call from California. Who Was Jewish? And at the end of the conversation you said to him well, I don't want condescending of sending. And say sell on to you. I just want to apologize to personally on. Because, I have called you. And I have. Ended with Salon. But I only meant that. If you, if you misunderstood what I know, well, let me let me stop you, Martin. I I was. I was kidding about that. In fact, I was I was trying to buy time. Because Shalom has two meanings as you know, and as several meetings. and. I was not. You cannot offend the I just want you I wanNA. Make that clear, okay? There's there's no way so I if somebody says something of of another language as long as I understand it, I'm great with so you have never offended me one time. Well I thought if I may have accidentally come across. As an hearing condescending, that's the last thing. No way in the world I wanted to do I would also. You know in this age of turmoil. I'm in New Orleans. I think the people in this city should look up. The history of a young sprinter named Herman new gas. Who refuse to go to the Olympics? As a spread on. Because, he was Jewish it opened up the slot for Jesse Owens on the four hundred relay, but he wouldn't go, because he said if I can't go and openly be a Jew anywhere. I'm not going to that place now that kid. He was twenty one. He exhibited more principle than ninety nine percent of the damned the world, but you know. His life began. Early on somewhere and he picked up principal and you know when we didn't go to the Olympics. the year the Russians invaded nine, hundred, ninety, nine, a Stan. That's right. He was standing right next to Jimmy Carter with the same reasoning. If this is not a free country, we'RE NOT GONNA go and I just wish people here in this city knew that that is a real hero for all America, but also from my own home town because we've got our problems here, too. We need like everybody else to find. People are principal and acknowledge them and get behind them and live. In a principled life so anyway, I just want to leave with that and I'm happy you want offended and I try to show as much as I can be. Thank you I. can't I appreciate it very much a great to have you on enjoyed it bye-bye. Break more on the confederate flag with someone who is very happy to see it go. We'll talk to Ryan McGee coming up here in just a moment. Listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we are back here on a Thursday afternoon lots to do. And since we started today, the big topic has been the announcement yesterday from Nascar that confederate flag needs to come down and quit. Flying Ryan McGee writing today. Under the heading the confederate flag is finally gone at Nascar Races and I won't miss it for a second Ryan joining us right now. Ryan thanks for the time great to have. been too long. Okay You've covered NASCAR for many many years, and it has a lot of issues. But in your in your column today you certainly talked about the discomfort. You often found and especially with friends of color in colleagues when you were at a race. Take us through your your your entire thought process. And what do you think at all means? Well I just if we're all means. I just today I never thought I would see. you know NASCAR's kind of halfheartedly. Taken, somewhat of a stance on this from time to time via the statement or be. After church shootings in Charleston several years ago. South Ghana. STATEHOUSE NASCAR was like well. If you bring a confederate flag to the souvenir tent will trade another flag for it, and now a lot of people did that was about as strong as I thought we'd ever see, but the leadership's different now and so you know. I, I know these people. I've known these people forever. You know I was on the payroll at Nascar in the two thousand and I know where the vast majority of these people's hearts line and I know the people in the garage and people on pit road and people who work at the racetracks and they're not. The people that. The rolling of the eyes that I received my entire life in is because of that confederate flag. It's misrepresentation. Of what the WHO the people are in that sport and I think it was a misrepresentation forty years ago, but I think he's certainly has been you know over the twenty five years that I've covered the sport and so I've seen it change, and this was Kinda, the last step to let everyone know for me, not have to apologize anymore, you know. Know, what do you think is like for me? Or for Brad Daugherty all-star that colognes and ask our team for bubble, Wallace, or for the family of Wendall Scott and all of our lives we were working at the racetrack, and we think it's been like for them, but also for me to have to every time I tried to explain none of them. It's not what you think it is, and they're more tolerant. You think they are in all. Anyone's ever had to do point at all the confederate flags. And so now they can't do that anymore, and then I'm all for it. I'M GONNA. Ask you explain something because we have a lot of people that are watching. Maybe listening from all over the country, and when they see a confederate flag. They. They see something that. Maybe you don't as southern I'm not trying to act like I'm not a southerner, but I'm not a southerner like you. Who had relatives? That were connected to or fought in the civil war. I mean that's all. I. Heard about it. Growing up and I really didn't care because it didn't involve me I. Mean we had enough problems getting over here to this country than worrying about what happened in the eighteen sixties, so tell me. You are you are a dyed-in-the-wool southerner? You're connected to this and you wrote about that today and explain first of all. What does that flag mean? My family has lived in. The eastern part of North Carolina. since the late sixteen hundreds early seventeen hundreds when we were first generation Americans and you know as I speak to you right now. I'm just some on the north. Carolina coast. Just south of Fort, Fisher which was kind of the last line of defense for the city of Wilmington during the federal block aid. In the winter of eighteen, sixty five that fort was overrun by Union forces and I had a great great uncle. And a gregory grandfather, who were taken prisoner war, put on the ship and taking Elmira New York, the Hell Morrow prison camp. And they fall underneath that flag, and when that war was over, they were shoved out the gate of that prison camp, and they walk six hundred miles from Elmira. New York Rockingham North Carolina. My I come a direct descendant of slave owners. So I sell this sale that had to say this. Don't anyone out there listening come at me with the heritage, not hate argument. Because I know exactly what that flag means and there is no one is going to come to me and argue with me. That has a deeper confederate DNA that I do. And the reality is I've spent my entire life. Trying to correct the mistakes of my forefathers, and we all have, and I would hope that if they were alive today and listen. They were buried in Carlos Creek North Carolina in the cemetery where I'll be buried, and there's an American flag over the gate of that cemetery, not the stars and bars, not the not the flag of the. None of that. The flag the United States of America and my hope is I never met them, but my hope is that when they died. They understood that they were on the wrong side of history, and so no one out there. All this listening to US watching that watches Martin McGee? This is tomorrow. McGee I don't want to hear anything from anyone about I. Don't understand. The difference between heritage in Hey, because the reality is that any last little bit of honor that was in the flag that might have been there after the civil war ended one hundred and fifty five years ago, any laugh, a little bit honor that was left with lost. When that flag was used over burning crosses flag was used to to lynch black. Americans flag was used. To keep little girls from going to school and desegregated school so I don't want to hear about what that flag is. We all know what it is. But I've heard it in my entire life. Without knowing what you know without having the experience you have had. Conversations with with people that. Talk about their own forefathers had a different view than you and you know what I'm talking about. And I would be lying if I said I haven't heard for some of my relatives. I wrote Dot Com. Tonight listen that debates never going to go away but I don't WanNa have to have that debate. While, I'm trying to enjoy the Daytona five hundred. If anyone wants to have that debate with me, you know what we'll go back to Memphis. We'll go back to your town and we will go to the greatest civil rights museum. and. It's right there. Rain Motel where Doctor Martin Luther King was assassinated and guess what they got plenty of confederate flags on display in that museum, and we can have that discussion all day long, but I don't have to have it anymore. A Martinsville Darlington for auto. The close speedway Pocono raceway now I can just cover the races and not apologize. To my colleagues of color for having to go cover that sport. Right, how do you think it's going to trickle down I? Mean we've we've seen some pockets of resistance already. We're only thirty. Forty one minutes into this show in a few people have already called in you. You've heard from many I'm sure today. Is it going to have any impact on the sport? Well the for the first race back with any fans going to be in a week from week and a half, and it's going to be the Talladega superspeedway, which is essentially an Anniston Alabama and I'll let everyone google. you know Aniston and the unfortunate history has had on in the civil rights fight and there's no. Thousand fans going to be allowed to buy tickets, so they're gonNA be spread out throughout the world's longest grandstands, which is what tally forty four RV's park on the backstretch. There's no question. that. They're going to be people who are GONNA take that? Ain't gonNA. Buy that ticket or park there RV and try to turn into some sort of stand. You know they're rebels right there. They love being called rebels, and so at the end of the day. If you tell a rebel not to do something where they don't do, they're going to rebel. It said they're certainly going to be a little bit of that but I can. Can Tell you firsthand. Having talked to her fficials, all the way to the top is that they're prepared for it, and they're ready for the fight and in the hope. Is that It doesn't last very long, but but we'll see. Let's say this, too. When I the first time I was since the right track with a credential as a member of the media. I went to the Darlington raceway in the mid nineties. and was an old man with a card table. Sit Right at the interest of the garage and he was selling confederate flags. Because, he knew that's where the fans would congregate to get a look at deller heart or whoever? And after a few years I got disappeared. And when I first started coming the Daytona five hundred, there would be hundreds of confederate flags. And, I kind of walked around casually back in February. The Best I could come up with was about fifteen. So that erosion was already taking place, and now Nascar is just making an official ban and They know they'll be a little spike. There's GonNa be there's GonNa be more their Daytona. Probably the next February than there was this past everywhere. But but in the end the racists are outnumbered, and they know it and one day. That's all going to go away. Ryan Gate Thank you Ryan preach coming on. Strong comments from Ryan we'll get your reaction to all of that. When we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Though. We're apart these days. Sharing so at Geico we'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy haircut fails. Thanks for sharing your inner lipstick star. Now it's our turn to share with the GEICO. Give back the fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers, because we're committed for the long haul, the fifteen percent credit laster, full policy term visit Geico, dot com slash. Give back for more INFO and eligibility. The great thing about facts they're proven. 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And so they bought Nascar car, and they got all kinds of crazy stuff going at the racetrack right now just to keep it viable. I hate the race. I live if you've been in as you knew Mike's bar it. I'll you're right now is pretty for mice, bar and right up under the vied out. For you, go into the race track, so I'm telling you and I. Because the thing. I hate about it. Is I hate to no. I. Don't like to know where they men about the people. You Know I. Don't mind people enjoying yourself doing your little a. And and that's fine with me I agree with it. But you know if if it's never really been to me about. About everything but money. with with I am I will miss I. don't even think they wanted NASCAR, but they would lose money, so they had to get something else in. There got this big old racetrack and. So. They bought in I am I. Mean about in Nascar. which is I don't care. But. There's one to ask you Mr Fan but they on when you get a chance, just say Greg Call, me. 'cause I WANNA to tell you why why? Tom Brady is not go and and look up Scott Norwood. Why Tom Brady is not to go. Okay, I'll do. Hey, I I will do that. Greg we'll we go from Greg Greg. Greg in Athens Alabama. It's a Greg Square Day apparently Paul thank you for taking my call and. before I get at one talk to you about yesterday you got a lot of were taken to task by jumping because. You didn't know as much about John C. Calhoun as he wanted you to. And if he calls you back, you can tell him that. The United States Navy had a ballistic missile submarine. Named after John C Calhoun, that was an operation for thirty years. And There was a mixed crew on that boat. And I've got a friend who served on there and I don't know. Contact him and find out. What everybody thought about John C. Calhoun while they were serving on that boat. It'd be an interesting story I think. And, then you had a guy, yesterday talked about police and mental health in. you know when I went into the navy and volunteer for sub duty, you volunteer for sub do. They take you through a long battery of psychological tests, and you talk to therapists and all and. One Guy said I guess. They thought we were crazy for doing it, so they wanted to make sure that that was verified, but. but there's you know Military men and women who have to serve Especially when I serve in a combat situation, go through a lot of stress it. A lot of people never have to experience. and. Police officers have to do it every day and they are not a well respected in a lot of places and And some of that's because of what's going on and so and so imagine being a police officer one of these big cities. And your administration this supposed to allow you to do. Your job doesn't like to do your job and you also know that they don't have your back. That puts a lot of pressure on men and women who are tasked with. 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How Autonomous Vehicles Will Upend Transportation

Knowledge@Wharton

23:16 min | 2 years ago

How Autonomous Vehicles Will Upend Transportation

"Podcast is brought to you by knowledge award. There's been tremendous advancement in autonomous vehicle technology in the last few years. But how close are we to actually having mass produced driverless vehicles on our roads at the question that our next guest might be able to answer. And I believe he believes it will be sooner rather than later Lawrence. Burns is a former corporate vice president of research development and planning for General Motors, he supervised encouraged GM's development of robotic driving technology, and he believes that this technology is closer than you might think he discusses its growth in his new book, autonomy, the quest to build the driverless car, and he and how it will reshape the world and Larry joins us on the show right now to discuss the book. Larry great to have you with us today. Thank you for your time. Well, thank you. I mentioned your background in this a little bit. And from what I read your involved in in kind of one of the first funded projects for DARPA the defensive aunts research projects agency looking at Thomas vehicles and how they could play out a few years ago. Correct. Yeah. That's correct. After nine eleven the DARPA was very interested in developing a vehicle that the military used to keep soldiers out of harm's way. You'll recall when the Afghanistan on Iraq war started. We had tragedies with our soldiers with these improvised explosive devices. So when idea was create a robotic car that could do missions and city, set ins and not have to have personnel in them. So they created a competition. The first races were across the desert out in a west. And then finally they did what was called the DARPA urban challenge in two thousand and seven and eighty five teams entered that race. It was a two million dollar first prize. And I was a general. At that time. Always sponsored Carnegie Mellon University. Volkswagen sponsored Stanford and the other teams competed in our team was fortunate enough to win, but the real winner was the technology. We really I think it a critical proof of concept point at that moment that maybe we really could create cars could drive themselves. And I think that's an important point to touch on for second. Because I think the belief of a lot of people is that realistically, this is technology. This is a mindset in terms of developing that's really been only the last five years or so this has been something that has been in the works for quite some time. Oh, absolutely. In fact, if you really go back in history there were many visionaries in the nineteen seventies. And eighties thought we could have cars drive themselves by putting magnets in the road. And the car would follow these magnets, the problem with that as required a lot of investment on the roads along came GPS on Moore's law continues to play out, so we had greater puting capacity and better communications. Technology and long behold we began to envision that. You could do this just by making the car, really smart and having connected by GPS to satellites and big databases. And so that made the task really viable of from our perspective began thinking about that around two thousand and then DARPA that their challenges initially on two thousand four so yeah, we've been working pretty hard for you know, twenty some years. So from the technology side, how close do you think we are to sing autonomous vehicles on the roads, very close? As you mentioned that the outset I'm on advisor to Google driving cars, which is now they're spinoff Waymo. They have a fleet of several hundred vehicles operating and Chandler Arizona, which is near Phoenix. And they have several hundred early adopter customers who are writing in these vehicles. No right now, there's a a Waymo personnel in the vehicle to to be a backup in case something occurred. But. But they're getting real close real close. But real close isn't good enough. And because we're drive three trillion miles a year as Americans so you need to be like ninety nine point nine nine certain that you've captured all of the driving challenges, but we're way out on that ninety nine point nine nine world right now trying to find those last few things and getting them. Right. So from the legislative side, how close you think we are. Could you repeat that again from from the legislative side how close we because that's that's a big question right now. Absolutely. The good news is so far the states, and the localities and the federal government have been I would say very proactive in the sense of realizing to get this perfected you have to learn on public roads. You're not gonna prove this out on the laboratory proving ground you have to get on on public roads. And they found the way clear working with the leading companies developing the technology to let us learn on public roads. So this is really a learning process and the the legislation and the regulations are continuing to progress. So I think as long as the industry stays open to sharing their experience, and what they're learning and their data and the government stay open to the huge societal benefits. That'll be realized when we get to the full potential self driving cars that will will continue to be able to make progress. And it's more. For right now, the state and local level. I would think, you know, having these allowances to use this technology on the road more. So than the federal correct. That's correct. And you know, California has allowed Waymo to do its development work in in Mountain View way. Most undeveloped work in the state of Washington, and Texas, and obviously in Arizona, and so the states, I think have been a quite proactive. The real question is can should we have different regulations from different states. I think that preference would be to have one national bay set of regulation. So that we don't have these variations across states after all if you live in Michigan, and you're on a self driving car, and you're going to Indiana. Yeah. You wanna make sure that you're legally operate in Indiana. And I believe all the right discussions are going on there's legislation. That's been proposed called the av smart act or I'm sorry eighty Start Act that's being discussing the Senate right now. And that that's how are. Passes were get a starting point have the dialogue and hopefully land in the right spot large. Burns is the author of the book autonomy, the quest to build the driverless car and how it will reshape the world. Your comments are welcome at eight four four Warton eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or he can't get your phone. You can send us a comment on Twitter. We'll bring it up on this show at his radio one thirty two or you can use my Twitter account, which is at Dan loan yellow any y Twenty-one you talk about the the savings that that eventually we are going to see from the use of autonomous really in what areas and by how much do you think? Well, there's a lot of different ways autonomous vehicles can can be used to benefit society. Let me just spend a second. We've had about one hundred thirty year old transportation system. Evolve over that that century century, plus timeframe, it's become safer cleaner, more affordable. But the fact is there's one point three million people dying on. The world's roadways that's up democ and scale where over ninety percent dependent on oil. We've got the climate change issues. And there's a lot of hassles to owning and operating a car for the first time we have a chance to do something about that. When suddenly you can envision a car that doesn't need a driver. It's going to impact goods movement the big over the road trucks or the local package delivery to your home or your apartment. It's going to end packed. How you get around every day. It's going to let younger people get around more that older people get around more and handicapped people and people who can't afford a car or like not to own one. So the benefits are tremendous. We see better experiences door to door travel where you don't spend your time traveling getting out of the car feeling better than when you got into it at lower cost for you in terms of your auto pack on time costs and for society. So that's what's so exciting. I say any vehicle that moves on the surface of the earth? That has a driver could be. Transformed by what we're talking about one of the areas that that we've mentioned on this show in the last year. So he's the trucking industry we're seeing even that be of potentially impacted by driverless. And how you know. I mean, big long fifty three foot tractor trailers that will be moving on Thomas across the roads of the United States. Oh, yeah. When you really look at a an over the road tractor. And you ask yourself what parts are on that tractor because there's a driver on it. While the windshield. The doors the seats the steering controls the brakes, you begin to get the picture. In fact, the parts you can take off that tractor will likely cost more than the parts are going to add to make Thomas today. And over the road truck driver makes about sixty four cents a mile wage and benefits. There's a shortage of drivers because it's a it's a tedious job. It's one that takes people away from home and there's a safety concerns as well. So. Oh, here's a chance to not just become more efficient and trucking is so important in e-commerce world every e commerce retailers competing to get you your package within a day. And so now you have this huge productivity opportunity and safety are opportunity with with over the road trucking. And I it's going to be very significant impact when you look at the partnerships that are being developing you laid out some of the ones that are ongoing right now, what does that say about the auto industry in general in terms of this technology, obviously moving forward, but it almost feels like the auto industry knows that if they are not involved in this with a partnership or some fashion that they were going to be left out in the cold. Oh, absolutely. I'd say one of the fascinating parts about the book art, my book, autonomy as tells that story after this DARPA urban challenge, the only company that really stepped up for public road. Use -application of this was Google. Louis patients or gay Bren challenged a small team of of the participants in that DARPA challenge to come up with a vehicle that could go public roads. And prove the concept out the auto industry, basically was in denial Dan, I would say for five or six years, and we recreate that in autonomy. We tell the story of you know, how Google started into this area. And then how some of the engineers on Google team reached out to the auto industry and essentially the door slammed in their face. And then eventually the auto industry began to get it two thousand fourteen fifteen timeframe companies like GM and Ford another of now moved into the space with their own driverless vehicle development programs, but think about what the auto industry has been they sell the vehicle as a product and the big opportunity here is to sell transportation as service, it's an entirely different business model and the auto industry is going to have to learn how to participate in that does. Business as well. As what they've done, historically. What does this mean moving forward for the auto industry because numbers of auto sales are obviously a concern each and every year for the industry, and we had seen obviously uptick the last couple of years, maybe starting to flatten out a little bit is the auto industry concerned about their actual sales because it feels like more and more millennials. And maybe this will carry over to jen's e don't feel like they need to have a car. If this technology is there. Yes, I think they recognize that concern and there's other concerns that they have to face just beyond. The maybe ambivalence of the millennials and I have two daughters who are Molyneaux, and I would say you've characterized them properly. They would they would give up their car away before they give up their their cell phones. But also when you're in the transportation service business, you wanna keep your costs per mile as low as possible that's fleets do and that suggests you wanna do these vehicles to last three hundred thousand miles which are like what taxicabs last today's cars typically last one hundred fifty thousand so once you get that longer life, you need half as many, plus the real basis of competition is going to be on the writing experience. And I think the car is going to become more of a commodity. And so those are real challenges at the auto industry needs to address because a lot of their profitability comes from the options that they sell to you to differentiate your specific vehicle. So this is a pretty broad impact. Its products have far fewer parts fewer vehicles being needed in in the basis of competition isn't going to be the chrome and the exterior experience and how the car accelerates corners. It's going to be how. Oh, well, the experience in picking me up and drop me off and doing that safely. Making me really feel good about myself while I'm writing around and relaxing or social networking in vehicle. Some of the conversation in the last couple of months, and and I think it's something to talk about has been the unfortunate accidents that we have seen as this technology is starting to develop out that some people have said, you know, you have to have some degree of this because of your your developing new technology, but they the the full expectation is, and you kind of alluded to it before that any of these issues will be worked out, and we will have a very strong industry at some point in the near future. Yes. That's what engineers to engineers take what's possible. And they make it real in the way, you do that isn't in one step. It's done through cycles of learning. And what I miss specially proud of my way, more fill the Asian as Waymo as the non public roads. Now for overnight. Nine million miles and they've had one at fault crash. It's a two two mile per hour scraping of a bus. Yes. There's been some traffic fatalities with an Uber vehicle as well as tesla vehicle, and I would I my fundamental belief is if you follow best practices and developing the technology on public roads dramatically, reduce the risk of these kinds of incidents, as I I can't say Dan was certainty that there won't be additional crashes, but you compare that to forty thousand Americans year dying that's over a hundred day are dying on our roads today and we've gone through similar challenges in developing vaccines. There's always some people who have risk them allergic reaction on vaccine, but you've got to get it out there. And you gotta get through the learning cycles improving because the public good is so dramatic. So you believe that those numbers of of road deaths that that we see each and every year have the chance. To really come down significantly as this technology moves forward. Yes. The traffic safety experts believe will eliminate more than ninety percent of the crashes, and that's because more than ninety percent of the crash was due to human error. I'll be Franken breaks, my heart. Every time I read about someone dying because a car got on the freeway going the wrong way. Right. I'll come on. We even have the technology today to prevent that from happening. You can't enter a rental car agencies parking lot going the wrong way without flattening. Your tires society has got away up to the fact that a ninety percent reduction of one point three million roadway fatalities worldwide. We'll save over a million lives a year that means getting to this end object of one day sooner say three thousand lives, so that's the scale of what we're talking about. And why so important continue to progress on these development cycles, and again, you won't be able to make the final progress. Without doing it. On public roads Lawrence burns is the author of the book atonomy the quest to build the driverless car, and how it will reshape the world. Again, your comments welcome at eight four four Warton eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or if you're not able to get your phone. Send us a comment on Twitter, and we will bring it up at biz radio one thirty two or my Twitter account, which is at Dan loan yellow, any y Twenty-one you also mentioned about the fact that not only will this have economic benefit, but this will have an environmental benefit benefit as well with the potential of having these vehicles on the road, and reducing the carbon footprint as well. Yeah. That was one of the real big Ha's for for myself and the team that I worked with after I left her Motors. I ran a program at Columbia University's Earth Institute called the program for sustainable, mobility, right? And what we realized that the path to electric vehicles and alternative to oil for transportation energy. G the path to getting their through autonomous vehicles. And here's why once you have an autonomous vehicle, and you don't have a driver on the vehicle, you can reposition vehicles when they're empty so that you can be in transportation service and not have the added labor cost of repositioning cars to pick up other passengers once you can do that you want to reduce the cost per mile, and you realize that the electricity caused for miles to ten cents less than gasoline cost. And if you have a vehicle that lasts three hundred thousand miles that can be fifteen thousand thirty thousand dollars savings over the life of the vehicle which wave more than pays for the cost of the electric drive. So Thomas electric vehicles. And then you Taylor design them for the types of trips. We make eighty percent of the trips Americans make and cars are one and two person. So why do we need for to six seats? Why do we need three to four thousand pound vehicles to do that? So you put all that together. You get the. Fishy of lowering the weight of the car the efficiency of electric drive. You get the savings per mile of electric drive and low and behold, you're gonna then reenergize at a depot not at a corner station, and suddenly you can introduce alternative fuel as much more easily. So this is a big breakthrough. My back of emplo calculations suggest we could reduce our dependence on oil for transportation by eighty percent, which really is one of the keys to the climate change solution, which makes me wonder whether or not it will be a longer process than probably even you think because of as we know especially in Washington DC the elements that tend to influence our our lawmakers do have quite an influence there. And that's a lot of money that the that the oil industry, the gasoline industry could be potentially looking at as losses. Absolutely. So the jobs. Implications are significant there's four million people in the United States who make their living. As drivers a lot of people who make their living in the oil and gas industry effect, the two states whose GDP has grown the most in the last since since the recession our North Dakota and Texas oil states. So the jobs implications are significant, but we've gone through these transitions in the nation's economy before when we went from an agricultural economy to an industrial economy, for example, lot of farming jobs were displaced, but they were just placed in new jobs came along and this transition, I believe is inevitable. I believe it sooner than most people are -ticipant ING, but it's not gonna be like a light switch where people can't prepare themselves and transition to the new economy jobs. That's one of the reasons we wrote autonomy was to make it available to a mainstream audience. So they could read an engaging narrative with fascinating characters while the reading this story, they begin to understand how the technology came to be and how. Going to impact their life, and then they can judge for themselves. Whether they need to be preparing themselves differently for the future. So this the book is very much aimed at mainstream read or on the phone in Ann Arbor. Michigan. Tony is on the line. Tony go ahead. Yes. I'm basically wanted to understand what types of jobs. Did you see the autonomous vehicle? How will create well, certainly, there's there's all of the jobs associated with developing the technology. So there will be additional sensors on the vehicles, they'll be software that will be created associated with that. Then there's some of the people think that you may even have Cohn Cohn CR services on some of these all times Bianco censor trying to provide a great ride to people. So you may have a person on board. That's not the driver, but actually is carrying for the the people who are riding in the vehicles. So those are some of the opportunities. I think there's gonna be some very interesting infrastructure changes one of the advantages of having driverless over the road truck is the low doesn't have to be as big the reason you have a big heavy load as trying to spread that cost the driver over more mont-, oh over or more pounds of shipments. So I think we're gonna have opportunities that emerge. New forms of infrastructure beyond the communications infrastructure. Tony. Thanks very much for the call one of the other things, I guess would be the the productivity that you could potentially gain back by having a Thomas vehicles by not having that people focusing on driving that you know, obviously, they would be focused on the road. But they could be also working while they are driving as well. And and it saving them time in general. That's a great observation. Dan, transportation has always been a driver of productivity and and nations growth over long over long time frames right? And so the interstate system. Yes, people are concerned that the interstate system have been the reason we have suburbs unless dense cities at the same time. It was a major able or if you s competitiveness on on goods movement. So the productivity opportunities here for moving people and goods so round and the mono- time we're going to allow people free up in their daily lives. So if you take the over two hundred million drivers that have. Their own car in the USA spend about about ninety minutes a day. We're going to give them those ninety minutes. Back for productivity opportunities lines. It's it's a fantastic look at the industry. Thank you very much for your time today and all the best with the book. Thanks, dan. Great questions. I enjoyed the discussion. Thank you the book again is autonomy. The quest to build the driverless car, and how it will reshape the world Lawrence burns the author worked actually with Christopher Schulkin on that book. It is available in bookstores and online for your purchase now for more insight from knowledge Morton, please visit knowledge dot Morton. Dot.

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Thursday 26 November

Monocle 24: Midori House

24:46 min | 5 months ago

Thursday 26 November

"Astrazeneca and the university of oxford have revealed an error occurred during trials of the corona virus. Vaccine that they're developing when assess how this impacts the process of combating covid nineteen. Britain's prime minister boris johnson is on a charm offensive of sorts with us. President elect joe biden but this audience receptive one and a tasty morsel from helsinki as twelve of the city's top restaurants join forces for this year's season of festive feasting and drinking monaco's editors and correspondents discuss those stories today. Here on the late edition on monocle. Twenty four hallo. That a very warm. Welcome to you to the latest from here on monocle. Twenty four it is. I ate the twenty sixth of november. Nine thomas lewis here in toronto and joining us today from adobe house in london monocle. Twenty-fourth marcus hippy. And augustine macchia. Larry augustyn malkin's great to have you both this on the program today. How's the week shaping up view. Both of their customers start with you know entering the last set of seven days. I think now. Maybe less of this lockdown so i think one of us will be pleased to leave it into the only marginally less stringent restrictions of level three I guess at least that means that there's sanctioned meetings in public places between six or fewer people and so on and so on So it's good that were out of those woods. More important than i hope that the numbers have come down in a way that justifies leaving the restrictions. Because obviously you know when does forget so inconvenient is net but one does tend to forget actually the human cost has been pretty dire throughout all this and ultimately we do just one the numbers to come down right indeed. Toronto's we're just starting on our second lockdown here marcus about you. How's the week treated you there linden. It's been a good week. It's been quite a busy week. Obviously you know echo awards. Augustine just said. I think this i thought would call it. Many people like looking forward to next week when when the some restrictions are lifted. I actually booked already a dinner at a restaurant of also books haircuts. I'm very much looking forward to both of those next week. So something to look forward to obviously when we over stress. Marcus had the feeling was that i heck out of the three months of letting right after the first lock times. I hope that pre treat t you to marcus hippie. Macci larry great to have you both with us on the program today. Well let's begin with the latest on the corona virus vaccines currently in development following an announcement yesterday by astra zeneca and the university of oxford. That an in the trials of the vaccine. They're working on may not call into question. The early promising results of those trials. There are also growing questions in countries. Like here in canada which don't have the manufacturing capacity to produce the vaccines on their own soil about how quickly they'll be able to receive vaccine doses if as is expected the countries where the vaccines are being made like in the uk. The us and in germany the populations there will be the first in line to receive them. Augustyn to to start with. You does any of this. You think tempur the mood to the promising feeling that was gone by some of these announcements about the vaccines that a vaccine is indeed imminent. Well i think it does tend to the moods to a degree thomas but you know one of the big issues. We've spoken about and again here on the late edition on on monocle. Twenty four those actually interesting god's in opinion column about it today by a statistician. David spiegel hotel. He's been very active here in the uk at communicating The public risk Around the corona virus vaccine An you know he wrote this really interesting piece. Basically saying those who tell us to do what to do during the pandemic must earn our trust. And as i said we've come back to communication and trust again again so i can only speak Very subjectively on this. Because obviously you know it's it's famously difficult to take the pulse of the of the of the population at the moment but while yes i think that the vaccine does offer some hope that over the next set of six to twelve months. We're going to start seeing things going back to normal and that maybe things will indeed have returned to normal by this time next year. You know it's it's it's tentative. On my part there has been this consistent miscommunication and an erosion of trust From the government. I don't know if you remember marcus. Boris johnson talking about the moon shot. Getting what was it. One point two million people tested day with some preposterous a massively ambitious brosio. One of these grams promises of boris johnson. And did it come to absolutely nothing absolutely nothing or we've seen is is money spent on on increasing and increasing the clearly shady contracts between parties who maybe have have a few too many ties to people at the top of the british government. Certainly this is what the what the reportage is increasingly pointing towards. So this is just a long way Around of saying thomas. I think that is quite hard to kind of generate much enthusiasm around any of it. You know give him that. The messaging has been so mixed. The response has been so inconsistent. Yes of course in principle if if if if a vaccine truly is imminent than the the national mood has to respond accordingly but between now and then how much economic damage how much damage to the public house and how much more damage to people's trust in the government is going to be done when australia. The country's flag-carrier contest has made the decision to allow passengers on board who've been given a coronavirus vaccine flaxseeds become available and to s how viable the approach will be from a business standpoint. We spoke a little earlier. Today to peter morris the chief economist for ascend by syria global travel and data analysis firm ultimately as the airline to take a decision that turned that noncommercial. One's gonna be hood so it's not a question of we will resolutely infosys no massive wall because if you guide a business. You can have to think about it again. Maybe it's kind of negotiating going to say well at the moment that looks like the only line we take but in the practicalities of the commercial business and let's say a loss that competitors don't do it and get the traffic that they miss item and you don't get any big says the right breaks then. Of course you'll start to say qantas missing ads. So you really can't do it on your own in business you're going to have to do it across a wide spectrum May love as a significant number of carriers feel the way you were expressing all that you find. The government put pressure on peter morris their chief economist. A senate by cerium the marcus to go back to some of the ideas guest in brought up this idea of clarity idea of building trust key make from a business point of view the calculation that qantas has made here. Do you think this is sort of a bold way of building. Trust of showing that as control of the narrative in some way from that corner of all of this. What do you think there are. Risks involved pizza morrison outlined absolutely. There are risks involved. I don't believe that qantas can be the only airline in the world to actually required as i have been vaccines before they board flights. I think it's just one incentive. I think i think one trying to be the pioneer kinda like the one who comes up with this idea hoping that other airline nurse would follow suit. Let's remember how badly they align industry has been heat over the past. What past ten months because of with nineteen because of the pandemic first of all they haven't been able to fly to many destinations at all because people from these countries haven't been allowed to travel by their own. Governments are the site of the same time this being this fear that people are worried about the health worried about catching the virus if they bought the flights with with someone who may have is this a lot of concern and a lot of fear and worry in the errands for a longtime airliners have been trying to push governments to accept to let passengers travel if they take a test before they board the flight and maybe also in the final destination and and that hasn't really been accepted or supported by government. So i think this is something that's gonna snow thinking looking further ahead of the the situation is going to evolve. We're going to see people getting those vaccines being vaccinated. Going to say. Quite a few years before we can safely assume that people around you have been vaccinated. It's estimated may well be in twenty twenty four when we are finally in the situation and the fact. Is that when you fly. People actually in this plane from a number of countries sure flying is pretty safe and choice being proven that you don't easily catch the virus when you are in a plane but nevertheless you have people from twenty five different countries around you you want to have this feeling that yona safe environment and and one way for airliner store for that feeling of safety and and support is by requiring those specs scenes but indeed as i say an speaker. Maurice qantas can't go on this alone so it's interesting to see what the white reaction from. The industry is going to be like in the coming months while next year. On the late edition. British prime minister boris johnson anti-government of set about wooing in an enthusiastic fashion the incoming of the white house and his team with policy advancements which they hope will have a positive impact in the united states. One of them is ambitious plans taco climate. Change the other to bolster defense. But boris johnson will also need to see eye to eye with joe biden over post brexit trade deal with the united states. Well earlier we heard from land. London bureau chief of the new york times and former white house correspondent on the role. The uk may still play in relations with europe in the eyes of the united states. Joe biden when he came to britain a few years ago and his greement with brexit the way he phrased it was he'd always viewed britain's value to the us as being a sort of a bridge between the us and europe. It can't play that role outside of the european union so it will change inevitably but the last thing that joe biden wants is a rift between two of the us most important allies the continental european allies of germany and france on the one hand and the united kingdom on the other hand so for him beyond the issue of the good friday agreement. There's a broader imperative here which is to avoid these kinds of rifts. Donald trump and offense thrived on these reps and even encourage them. But for joe biden. They'd be a real negative monklands. London bureau chief of the new york times speaking to us on today's edition of the globalist accustomed to start with us to say that joe biden's over chose to the uk since his election win. They haven't been quite a few sieve as sort of woman cuddly if i can put it that way publicly at least as they were between donald trump pans. Boris johnson has mark landlord luda to that. The border on the island of ireland for example is something joe biden has made has been extremely public about in the past few days. Yeah i the board On the island of ireland is interesting. Place to stall. Obviously joe biden Does what a lot of Irish americans do which is really Trades on his ancestry. He's he's got this person who emotional attachment the homeland I read that his family left in the wake of the feminine the eighteen forties. So it's fairly remove now but nonetheless emotionally resident food. I it would seem you know so. That's one thing. But then the other thing is actually having having Walked having facilitated a lot of the talks The us does the democrats do kind of see themselves as as party to the good friday agreement. So it is it is. It is kind of doubly important in that sense. They have a political historical interest in maintaining it. I think the other thing is As i guess they're just pointed out that's really interesting. Is this idea that you know for a while now. The uk has only really mattered as a bridge to the e u Donald trump as was corrected twins now did to kind of break apart he was in the business of demolishing things. But i think that's the reason that you know in spite of the slightly frosty back-and-forth with you know last year biden cold Boris johnson said he was a physical and emotional clone of donald trump. I think in spite of that. We're gonna see kind of rapprochement. I his worth remembering that this so-called special relationship that's been made so much of between the us and the uk actually goes a lot deeper than politics. it's very personal is one thing so the bush blair relationship was clearly very important because they clicked on a personal level obama. David cameron didn't get him very well. But i think biden is a much more conciliatory character. You know he's going to be having to having to do a lot of Peacemaking relationship building in the us of that's going to be a complicated process because as as we know the country is much more polarized than it has been possibly Well certainly in living memory. I think So he's going to be building relationships. That and i think it follows that you know. Both he and his boris johnson will be able to swallow that kind of resentment against the other for the sake of political expediency. Certainly that's what. Boris johnson seems to have made a career out of doing you know it's no secret not even necessarily criticism to say that the man's opportunist and i think that just because biden's may be said that he's his this kind of a monkey lous donald trump. I don't think he's necessarily going to hold that against what's going to be most important. Which is what's most important between the us and the uk is is. This sheds history. The shed coach you know. It's the soft. Power survey comes out today and monaco magazine. And it's worth remembering that the the soft power relationship between the two countries very strong not only have they worked together for many years under a lot of personal bonds between the senate between parliament Here in the herron here. In here in london Also cultural ties film literature A row history of cultural exchange the uk. The number one destination for american studying abroad. I and there are many many many more reasons That the that the relationship will endure than that. It's in some sort of terminal decline and marcus to pick up on that idea of the the depth of the relationship on so many levels between the us and the uk historically how is that playing out in the british press but also more broadly their wariness that to what joe biden presidency might bring into the relationship or is it a bit of a reality. Check to what. Boris johnson's ambitions might have been for. Us uk trade deal post brexit for example Looked pretty few why. Donald trump was president. I think even guess all that from the british press if you just follow many enough titles interesting that there so speculation going on in the british press and we don't actually really know what the future is going to bring some say that the future relationship is going to be amazing us. Augustine was to say there are such deep toys between the uk and the us but then it can also remember that. Joe biden doesn't want bricks it to cause any damage show harm in the island of violent and that's an issue. He saying that there may not be a trade deal. Brexit causes problems there and was also being widely reported. What we followed earlier was that who is joe biden. Go into call. I is the first phone. Call going to go to london is. Is he going to go to brussels so he's going to go to. Germany brought in for example and there was a real relief in london. I felt like when we got reports. That joe biden hats called boris johnson. I i think. I think that's a positive signal but then being something else going on in the sidelines stuff you read from. The british press is being claimed that there was a bit of a panic in in down on downing street when when the government began to realize gradually that it was joe biden. Who would win the election. Not donald trump and actually what had happened is that the british government hadn't really been in touch with the democrats in the us therapy. Mostly mainly mingling with republicans and they realized that we don't actually even know the democrats as well as we shoot at this moment. Also abidance team remembers what's been going on in the past. They remember that trump say. That's boris johnson is is a british version of himself pretty much. They also remember that. When barrack obama was still in charge. Boris johnson said that obama doesn't like the idea of brexit because all fees part kenyan supposedly obama was meant to have an ancestral dislike of the british empire and that's why he was so anti brexit. There are team members over there in washington who do remember these things considering all that i think is going to be very very interesting. How this this relationship special on notice going to evolve. And i think it's also good to remember that as a result of brexit the uk. Not going to be such a major force in europe anymore. So i think there's and natural movement of interest from washington from london to more central parts of europe while finally here on the late edition a little something to whet the appetite for you in helsinki. Where twelve top restaurant tres have joined forces to buffet themselves and the ongoing effect of the pandemic. Marcus your the host of our weekly food and drink programme the menu here. I'm gonna call twenty four spotted this story for us. Tell us what this move by. Some of houses best is hoping to achieve this festive season. So obviously as everywhere else in in housing restaurants have been having time because of the pandemic guns twelve great restaurant. Restaurateurs decided to come together and support each other rather than challenging each other and competing with each other. They thought that you know there's something positive in this situation on. The positive thing is that they had to work together. So it's going to start. It's a british small-scale beginning for this thing but they have grants plans for the future so at the moment they're selling gift cards employers can give to their staff members in lieu of christmas parties but best wider philosophy and thinking in all this. They're looking to the likes off copenhagen for example that has had success with restaurants and all that has happened breezy quickly. I would claim that in the year. Two thousand copenhagen didn't have the reputation as a food destination the same reputation they have now bought of the reasons. Why covert haganah stunt so incredibly. Well that the restaurants over there in researchers have kept it together as well and they've been working very hard to promote the city and make foreigners come to come to come to copenhagen denmark at the same thing is happening in finland now so these researchers are going to be working together to share resources and to spread the message internationally to try to get foreigners. Come to finland to helsinki when it's easier to travel and and looking at these things there's absolutely no reason why harrison couldn't be a similar culinary. Destination has been. Hey there is nothing. The danes have that the phoenix wouldn't and i think that's really interesting. You got very good. Transport connections to helsinki is very quick and easy to go there. Same with denmark. You get you get great. Local produce over there or saying was very special about felonies that everyone knows everyone and the restaurant in sperry personality driven. So they don't really believe in detroit and tested concepts performance over there. They want to have their own thing is really interesting. I think i think sincerely just waiting for the world to discover what housing is. Go to offer in the future and marcus. You've kind along some details to me. Yesterday by two slightly similar initiative by some of the smaller food produces in my home country. Wales that creating joint hamas i believe tasty treats filled with there was basically solve ninety percent of my christmas shopping countries. Without so thank you to you and august in the final thought to you for smaller food and drink produces this year. Speaking anecdotally here. It seems that some of them have done fairly well. During the various lock stands as people have opted to buy their food from smaller neighborhood. Foodery retailers perhaps rather than relying solely on the big box supermarkets southern food and drink purveyors near you and your corner of london. Become a bit of a staple fiu during this for now. You mentioned it thomas thurs. There's a shop just around the corner from its griots. It's really nice. Really friendly local place go Great selection of journals But then they also to wine. You know they've got a deli counter where they do they sort of cell mate. Nice put should make an fish. Fresh vegetables ready. Great little place. the. I haven't come across before it's cool to kuwait tros my part now. I'm just joking. Obviously of course. I'm pulling your leg There's a great butch ama and i have been enjoying shopping likely. I think one of the problems with living in london And please you know if you happen to live in dc one. You're listening to right into correct. Me if i'm not much mistaken but there is a row Paucity of good green grosses in the city. i've heard lots veg box initiatives. My experiences of veg box civil vegetables is been that you end up getting a salary aca week for a month and then having too much to larry can guilty throwing in the been. I've been must struck by throughout. The pandemic has been the way that people have been using instagram restaurants and individuals chefs who may have been furloughed to haven't been able to work. There have been some amazing delivery initiatives Guy kind of making these posh pies your could release pies. This been some really good kind of pot cooked part finish home restaurant offerings I've been enjoying the opportunity to actually really get into cooking. So i haven't already been using them. I've been trying to make my own pies. Where pass by can see. Marcus is itching to get it. Just jump in hair. Gotta say that actually talking about those books as i actually prepared a lebanese feast last night. It's amazing basically. All the difficult works being done ready for you. Just heat something and prepare something. Maybe fry something then. You have a breezy noise. Noise dina really an extra tomorrow evening. I'm going to get another one kind of like a new orleans food box. Can you share some of these. What about overnights. Almost anything over. They're going to ask you guest. Yes there's plenty of things here actually fitting my boots. Sort of data tests on butchery. Here have pool in five given just much dull and that really delicious homemade yet really good on a piece of fresh forget And i was gonna say august. I'm not sure how. Well the newly famous augusta macho. Laurie meat pies. But if a slice will survive in the post spare thought from a year in toronto. If there's any leftover gusty macharia and marcus hippie in london that's all. I'm afraid to say we have time for for today's program. Big thanks to the two of you as always for being with us on the show today. A studio manage in london was lily allen. Big thanks to him as always to. I'm thomas lewis here in toronto. Thank you very much for listening. And we'll see you tomorrow.

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Hour 4: 8/5/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

40:48 min | 1 year ago

Hour 4: 8/5/19

"The paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply but cried passion and patron tree of college football leaves here. This is the paul finebaum show our four podcast <music> doc to welcome back we are i everyone is excited to be back <hes> talking about college football but imagine for the second you get to travel around the country meeting with the best player talking to the top coaches imagine that well our next two guests are doing just stat holly rowe and maria taylor touring at the world well starting in athens georgia place <hes>. They both know well ladies. Thank you so much for being here. We we just watch your conversation with jake from first of all before we get to athens. Tell us about the how this all came about good question so a couple of years ago we were just talking about how we prep for our jobs and how we do our jobs and saying hey you you know you. It's a good idea to go to places in person and see teams in person before the season starts and get a good snapshot so we did it on our own separately. <hes> i share and then last last year we were like let's do this together because it will be much more fun together so it just kinda came into a thing and we're having a blast. We were at oregon all day yesterday. With justin herbert mario a crystal ball <hes> and took a red eye tonight and here. We are georgia all day. Today's you know sleep but it's both good and just knowing come a mighty long way okay in the beginning of that s a year ago. It was me holly ipad okay so just imagine is trying to film ourselves as if we have go pros in a car and i just falling down as we drive to now we have the producer camera guys. Hey guys audio. Everything like got a whole crew now so it's thing and you're asking yourself. It's all full circle and people don't no no about youtube. I mean you two are like a buddy movie all wrapped into one because you are very close friends and and it comes out and i mean i just you saw tease on sportscenter. You guys doing exercises with the georgia football program. I mean that's there's more to this just two very outstanding reporters covering college football football baseball. We would like to say so we always tell ourselves like you know what i find this entertaining and i think it might be a little inside aside hall in time so we have to remember that not every job is going to be funny to everyone but still my favorite thing though is she'll text me and she'll just be like i love us. Look uh-huh around the country us. What's really cool is so now. We're going to go our separate ways. We'll both be on big games every week and now we can be comparing notes like hey remember what that kid told us when we were here we remember what that coach said here and so it's also a friendship but then it's also a collaboration around college football so i feel like it's good for fan yes and makes us better and i love you. Got the red and black going so tell us <hes> holly and maria about about your your sleep deprived day in athens georgia georgia so the thing that i've been the most impressed with here is so we got on the whiteboard with j._r. Read the defensive backs for georgia's defense which i think think is going to be really good this year. They've got a lot of returning starters back and they also have a lot of guys that we're younger but got reps and rotated in a lot last year got plays so j they are read went onto the white board and he's drying up there havoc rate which is how they get the ball back and it's like literally an algebraic formation equation. That's the word i'm looking for and he was really impressive on the whiteboard and he said you know sometimes. When the younger guys have questions he gets up and draws it up on the whiteboard so for an upperclassman smith on defense to be breaking down like that with such confidence. <hes> kirby smart even said when he's out there. He's communicating in a way that's not like hey. I think this is what i've diagnosis he. This is what we're doing. It's g. R. reads like here's what we're doing. Let's go and i saw that confidence from him. Yes i think it's a strength of georgia's defense and even when kirby's talking about senate he wants his d._b.'s and they obviously the guys that are directing everything you know on that back line so he understands that they're going to be in good hands as the season goes on so it was going to spend a little bit of time with him and timely jake chrome as well so we we've done absolutely everything you could imagine paul including checking out a little bit of practice while we've been here in athens so tell us about jake from because everyone loves him. He's he's such a an inspirational leader of and and we saw some of that in the piece that the snippet of the piece of we just played what impresses me is. He's a guy that is just a natural born leader. You've heard that phrase whatever it is he has it you you know we saw early in his career. As a redshirt true freshman coming in supplanting jacob ethan guys gravitate towards him and he's only gotten better. He hasn't gotten full of himself. He hasn't gotten cocky. He is an approachable leader. Yeah that you wanna play for. I just feel like these young wide receivers are gravitating towards him and are accepting accepting his leadership. Yeah and i remember being on campus even that first year when you early enrolled and coach saying you know the guys soon as he came into the meeting room. <music> arnie knew more than a couple of quarterbacks were sitting there. That's how smart he was and everyone else knew it as well so they responded in respected him immediately but jake crumbs also a guy that he takes very small. Things like personally so mental toughness is important to him. He spent a lotta time with entire freshman year meeting with trevor moa who was like a mental conditioning coach that worked with the team but i remember meeting with kirby on national championship day jake wrong with coming down at seven a._m. To meet with the mental toughness coach before all of these other meetings were set to start on the day of the national championship and that's kinda always sets his priorities and i think the small steps that he takes and has taken throughout his career that led him to let him to worry is now and he's changing his body. He's eating clean. If you see him in person paul you'll be like oh. He looks different. I mean his face is cut. He's leaned out <hes>. This is a guy who every single single year is taking that next step and he said i wanna do more but i also want to be careful to not do too much and it feels like he has found that sweet spot not balance balance. There was some news out today. <hes> and i don't think georgia has confirmed it. <hes> about brenton cox leaving the program and i asked you primarily realize is your your flying around but just a sense of that story and how it is permeated <hes> the air over there in athens today yeah you you know unfortunately when that news came out we hadn't been able to talk to kirby smart since then but one thing that we do know is everything has been business as usual. You know we walk. Throughs went off without a hitch practice energy was there the defense was excited enroll in fact what they're focused on and stopping the run like i know that for a fact is what they're focused on in practice so i think everything is moving on like the routine is as usual and it didn't feel like there was a cloud or an air of anything else going on <hes> as far as obviously the news that you mentioned coming today. We're bringing cock oregon yesterday athens today where what's the rest of the week. Look like well good that you asked to. When we leave here here we are going to drive to clemson about an hour and a half and we will be clemson all day tomorrow. We'll jump on a flight tomorrow night and go to oklahoma so really excited to check in with sooners. I have their first game houston at oklahoma. Next day. We go to texas the next day we go to alabama and then we go up to ohio state for a scrimmage on saturday hyundai so it's going to be a whirlwind but we're in day to were exhausted but we're happy i mean we are talking ball with all of the best in the country and it just aren't raining and storming and we can't wait to get out there and started driving the clemson on chew hold you up. That's a beautiful drive between athens and clemson clemson. Maria holly thank you so much. We'll talk to you later. Jeremy places. I've noticed that is true. Ali the <hes> definitely south carolina nail pretty pretty seriously b._g. B._j. a._j. Is in jacksonville. You're on the air next. Go right ahead a going on paul. Hey there. Hey man. How's it going so. I talked to you a few months ago we they were gonna continue our discussion. We're not gonna continue that discussion. Today i wanna call and talk to you about was man. You gave me a real good laugh and you said a <hes>. The player must have really messed up. Kirby smart kick them off the team. You know what i'm saying. What happened with the jeremiah jeremiah holomisa jewish. I think that's the kid's name analyst analog <hes> yeah listen. I didn't mean that any way other than what i said. I was trying to find a nice way of saying that <hes> the kid did something pretty pretty serious. Kirby has a pretty good handle on on the on the discipline over there. I don't think he's a coach that will put up with anything. Oh man is in the right right now. I i would agree on issues but i ve always it's always a debate back when when players get in trouble we're we're we're should the blame be put now ultimately the coach recruits them but when you recruit at the level of the top schools you're going to get some some questionable workers and at the gator fan. I know we had shared but you know enough about the <music>. I'm getting fit talking about it. Let's talk about the gators so as you know man. We got three weeks <hes> until the florida miami game <hes> i wanted toward your prediction. You know what i'm saying on the game. One of those match ups that we at gator fans should look for you know what i'm saying that gives the chew gives us. The advantage over the hurricanes come august b._j. First of all i think he was that b._j. B._j. Yes sir d._j. B._j. d._j. I think i think i think i think the games a mismatch. I think florida has far more talent. I think the transition listen <hes> from margaret. Manny diaz will will hurt them. I think the quarterback position which we all thought was going to be <hes> a no brainer during my emmy has continued to be the biggest problem. They have down there and sleep. Franks is a good quarterback. He's clearly better than anything. Miami's amy's going to throw at him and i think overall <hes> i will be really surprised if florida doesn't win this game going away. Thanks for the call d._j. Thanks to <hes> maria and and holly for making time for us and we are heading to the break right now. I can't believe it that gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look comes one point seven percent decrease in overhead. Hello everybody no. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car. Insurance gyco dope rejected increase in organic q._3. Revenue a hey believe geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. You're listening to paul. Finebaum show podcast so welcome back we are everyone's excited to be back talking about college football but imagine for a second you get to travel around the country meeting with the best s. players talking to the top coaches imagine that well our next two guests are doing just at holly rowe and maria taylor touring the world well starting in athens georgia place. They both know well ladies. Thank you so much for being here. We we just watched your conversation conversation with jake from first of all before we get to athens. Tell us about the how this all came about good questions so a couple of years ago we were just talking about how we prep for our jobs and how we do our jobs and saying hey you know it's a good idea to go to places in person and see teams in person and before the season starts and get a good snapshot so we did it on our own separately <hes> i share and then last year. Let's do this together because it will be much more fun. Were we're together so it just kinda came into being and we're having a blast. We were at oregon all day yesterday. With justin herbert mario cristobal <hes> and we took a red eye tonight and and here we are at georgia all day today no sleep but it's still good and paul just knowing come a long way in the beginning of this year ago. It was me holly in an ipad okay so just imagine as trying to film ourselves as we go pros in a car and i just falling down as we drive to now. We have a producer camera guys. Hey guys audio everything. I got a whole crew now so it's thing and you're asking me on your cell so awful circle boy people don't know about you you too or like a buddy. Ed movie all wrapped into one because you are very close friends and and it comes out in the o._t. On sportscenter you guys doing exercises which georgia football program i mean that's there's more to this than just two very outstanding reporters covering college football baseball we would. I like to say so. We always tell ourselves like you know what i find this entertaining. I i think it might be a little inside hall in time so we have to like remember that not every job is going to be funny to everyone but my favorite thing though is she'll text me and she'll be like i love us. Go round the country. Uh-huh what's really cool is now. We're going to go our separate ways and we'll both be big games every week and now we can be comparing notes like hey remember what that kid told us when we were here. Remember what that coach said here and so it's also a friendship but then it's also collaboration around college football so i feel like it's good for fans and makes us better and i love us. You got the red flag going so tell us holly marie about to about your your sleep deprived day at in athens georgia so the thing that i've been the most impressed with here is so we got on the whiteboard with j._r. Read one of the defensive backs georgia's defense which i think is gonna really good this year. They've got a lot of returning starters back and they also have a lot of guys that were younger but got reps and rotated in a lot last year and got plays so j._r. Went onto the white ward and he's drying up there havoc rate rate which is how they get the ball back and it's like literally an algebraic formation <hes> equation that's the word i'm looking for and he was really impressive on the whiteboard when he said you know sometimes when the younger guys have questions he gets up and draws it up on the whiteboard so for an upperclassman on defense to be breaking it down like that with such confidence diffidence. <hes> kirby smart even said when he's out there. He's communicating in a way that's not like hey. I think this is what i've diagnosed. This is what we're doing. It's like j._r. Reads like here's what what we're doing. Let's go and i saw that confidence from him. I mean i think it's a strength of georgia's defense and even when kirby's talking about it he wants his d._b.'s and they're obviously the guys that are directing everything you know on that back line so he understands that they're going to be in good hands as the season goes on so it was good to spend a little bit of time with him and spend time with j krom as well so we've done absolutely everything you could imagine paul including checking out a little bit of practice while he's been here in athens so tell us <hes> about jake from because everyone loves him. He's he's such a a an inspirational leader and we saw some of that in the piece though that the snippet of peace of we just played what impresses me he is. He's a guy that is just a natural born leader. You've heard that phrase whatever it is he has it. We saw early in his career. As a redshirt true freshman coming ming in supplanting jacob easson guys gravitate towards him and he's only gotten better. He hasn't gotten full themselves. He hasn't gotten cocky. He is an approachable leader that you wanna play for. I just feel like these young wide receivers are gravitating towards him and are accepting his leadership and i remember being on campus even that first the air when he early enrolled and coach saying you know what the guys soon as he came into the meeting room he already knew more than a couple of the quarterbacks that were sitting there. That's it's how smart he was and everyone else knew it as well so they responded in respected him immediately but jane trump's also a guy that he takes very small. Things like personally personally so mental toughness is important to him. He spent a lot of time with entire freshman year meeting with trevor mowatt who was like a mental conditioning coach that worked with the team but i remember meeting with carvey on national national championship day jake wrong with coming down at seven a._m. To meet with the mental toughness coach before all these other meetings were set to start on the national championship and that's kind of how sets priorities it isn't. I think the small steps that he takes and has taken throughout his career and then leads him or let him to where he is now and he's changing his body. He's eating clean. I mean if you see him. In person paul all you'll be like oh. He looks different. I mean his face is cut. He's leaned out <hes>. This is a guy who every single year is taking that next step and he said i wanna and do more but i also want to be careful not do too much and it feels like he has found that sweet spot in that balance there there was some news out today a and i don't think georgia has confirmed it. <hes> about brinton cox leaving the program i ask you primarily and i realize you're you're flying around but just a sense of that story story and and and how it has permeated the air over there in athens today yeah you know unfortunately when that news came out we hadn't been able to talk to be smart since then but one thing that we do know everything has been business as usual. You know we walk. Throughs went off without a hitch practice. The energy was there. The defense was excited enrolling in what they're focused on stopping the run like i know that for a fact is what they're focused on in practice so i think everything is moving on like the routine is as usual didn't didn't feel like there was a cloud or an air of anything else going on <hes> as far as obviously the news that you mentioned coming out today cock so <hes> <hes> oregon yesterday athens athens today where what's the rest of the week like well good that you asked so when we leave here we are going to drive to clemson about an hour and a half and we will be at clemson all day tomorrow. We will jump on a flight tomorrow night and go to oklahoma so really excited to check in with the sooners. I have their first game <hes> houston at oklahoma next day we go to texas the next day we go to alabama and then we go up to ohio state for scrimmage on saturday so it's going to be a whirlwind but we're in day to you were exhausted but we're happy i mean we are talking ball with all of the best in the country and it just started raining and storming and we can't wait to get started driving the clemson. They do not want to hold you up. That's a beautiful drive between offense and clemson maria holly thank you so much. We'll talk to you later. Germy hear me places. I've noticed now that is true. I'll say cherry definitely south carolina got. It nailed pretty pretty <hes> seriously b._g. B._j. is in jacksonville. You're on the air next go right ed. Hey what's going on. Hey there. Hey man. How's it going so. I talked to you a few months ago. We say we're going to continue our discussion. <hes> we're not gonna continue that discussion discussion today but i want to call and talk to you about was man you gave me a real good laugh and you said <hes> a player must have really messed up. Kirby smart kicks them off the team. You know what i'm saying <hes> wh- jeremiah jeremiah holomisa jewish. I think that's the kid's name listen listen. I didn't mean that any way other than what i said. I was trying to find a nice way of saying that <hes> the kid did something pretty pretty serious kirby. I think has a pretty good handle on on on the discipline over there. I don't think he's a coach that will put up with anything. Oh man they'd be the same as in the former cut right now. That's easy but <hes> <hes> i would. I would have issues but i've always it's always a debate when when players get in trouble. We're we're where should the blame be. Put now ultimately the coach recruits them but when you recruited the level of of the top schools you're going to get some some <hes> <hes> questionable lawyers and the gator fan. I know we had our share but <hes> you know enough about the post. I'm talking about it. <hes> let's talk about the gays so so as you know man. We got three weeks <hes> gamete until the florida miami game <hes> your prediction. You know what i'm saying like on the game one of matchups that we get our beds so look for you know what i'm saying that gives the chew thing gives us the advantage over the hurricanes come for b._j. First of all. I think what was that b._j. B._j. d._j. B._j. d._j. d._j. I think i think i think i think the game mismatch <hes> i think florida has far more talent. I think the transition from margaret manny diaz will will or hurt them. I think the quarterback position which we all thought was going to be <hes> a no brainer. Miami has continued to be the biggest problem. They have down there and sleep. A franks is a good quarterback. He's clearly better than anything. Miami's gonna throw at him and i think overall <hes> i. I will be really surprised if florida doesn't win this game going away. Thanks for the call d._j. Thanks to maria and holly for making time for us and we are heading heading to the break right now. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. You're with us. It's really fun to be back and man you look down and see a name like this. One on the board and you know the college football season is around the corner shop bam bom larry. Mary is up next. I go buy me house right. That's <hes> man. I'm ready. I'm paul. I'm watching games s._e._c. Zizou network that man oh man i tell you what i don't watch one. We loud. I walk when we when we did. When we were in charge of picking the games we only pick bama. Emma wins. Go man sorry we we didn't have <hes> either one of the clemson games the ohio state games to ole miss gallons or the kick excusable thirteen all over again job bound bound powder by everybody on board by they <hes> we we mentioned this earlier. What do you make at danie grams moving into the captain's chair well. You can tell us not to go deep. I've already detected some some resentment from from t._v. Ac haven't you yeah just smart. You can see that smart or you. Mentioned is what j. bailout reloading his vice. What smart mode you know her mother ed thomas was mark about to buy a scooter louis bail out you know you you wonder smart when he thinks exist right and this saddam stuff i ever saying daddy bay you. You too man you the captain jack you take him. Throw and yes and you a slap. It was going to ask you a question. We ran and to one of your friends s._e._c. media days. What was his name. Jake jake the snake jake the snake from shelby. That's right jake. The snake from show became a picture of a kmart not want to shake hands. Where were you know our own <hes>. I would think that passes. I ah i beg your man and man he's yes yes <hes>. He went down good guy man. He's got out fishing and said you didn't want to have nothing to do with this. This is a true now. He said you were out fishing and wanted nothing to do with coming coming into the show her coming d._c. I wanna get up you brother and give you a big one and by a you know real hard. Watch watch your balls. Hang out go back. I would have gum and jag yeah. I know what he did but he was. I days bam on route by way ready. I wanted about eight twelve freshman at defense and so redshirt but god if we come up with a good defense <hes> smoke. I'll probably go buy what about it then he. I think he he has looking good time. Not the best in the business folks. Thanks larry great to have you on. I mean really great to have you on. Chad is in south carolina. Hello chad get him. Hey chad thanks to paul. Thanks for taking my call. I just noticed i'd s- absol we're face. Turn left clemson and is moving south carolina and i noticed years ago we lost our head. Coach brand scott left and i was wanting to know you think there's a lot of communication with players about other teams when they go uh-huh and is there any possibility is is there violations does the n._c._a._a. Care about things like that. Well listen in this case <hes> he's. He's a great. He's a graduate transfer so i mean there's no. Why would there be a violation. That's that's another teams. Do it is there. You know you know it really something to that. They consider they concerned about well. Listen any everyone's concerned about violations but <hes> to me. There's has nothing to be concerned about here. I mean i don't know about every case but i feel comfort- comfortable in confident in in the fisher case okay yeah in as far crispbread scott years ago you know i thought i thought about this same thing when that happened. Well listening brad. Scott hasn't been in south carolina in a long time but <hes> <hes> he did go did he go from clemson south carolina or south carolina to clemson he left florida state went to south carolina's head coach and then left head coach and went to you're on a per clips and i just didn't know if you think that really plays into it is listen. I mean you always hear about that. Remember kirby irvy's smart. Was it alabama. He got the georgia head coaching job. There was always some tension there. That's one of the hardest things you can ever do especially as the head coaches it just assistant. You're probably a little more cutthroat and not concerned at all. What someone else is going to be great to. Have you on. Thank you very very much. Let's talk to joe in texas. You're on the air. Go right ahead joe. I miss apollo first time caller. I just need to no your take on the texas longhorn l._s._u. Game probably faith lane is for l._s._u. I did that the other day in texas saying called me and tried to go down the roster with me man for man and i think he made a couple of good points and then i i do think that's a dangerous arena but i i really like what i hear and see from from the l._s._u. Tigers well. I'm glad to hear that i may i may leave protected twenty miles from austin but hey you got a lot of company company. Oh hell yeah 'cause i'm. I'm a florida gator fan morning as i go but <hes> yeah i mean just tell them. Tell l. him guys already l._s._u. Not to do the horns down thing in the stadium because <hes> they have tendency to get penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. That's right here. Hey great to have you on joe. Thank you very very much. <hes> joe joe is on next paul how y'all doing today day hello joe last call as having football low density crisis. I don't know if he knows who for. I mean no. We ain't protection but uh-huh between l._s._u. In florida i mean that's pretty big difference right there but <hes> anyway i called in to talk about something that nick sabin and said over the weekend that that <hes> the football team came in probably one of the best conditions that that that they that they've had it didn't say bad but one of the best and i like to get your take on that and plus the defensive secondary. I you know i'd like to know how you think they're going to do because i mean it ain't brought fake news. We got lit up against clamps and dan which brings a point. I won't do clinton. They need to forget about last year. We won as though we won seventeen of them but you gotta think about what's ahead of. You not washed behind okay but i knew i'd like no. You're not really like i like what i hear in la last year to me there were there were some personnel issues show but i think the biggest issue on that defense was the coaching it was terrible all right tell bam danny brown congrats on the move up and in may grow tied to him and he said he he hey thanks obama goal do good this year and so i don't know sucking up for or if he means it but if he made it one one thing about danny bram he's. He's not a suck up artist. No he's a straight shooter. He's he's from utah right okay so he ain't live four kubiak well. Nobody's like thank you. My momma raised me roger that good and hey look look over to tell him. Big robot was mike was his mic was off big time sarah. You can't do it if you're makes up the first time dan swinging a mistake one. You know it's nice though <hes> joe and listen. I love joe the the artist formerly known as sean hayes but you know we got it. We got man of the people in in the booth there. We had a notre dame her and a penn state or you. Can you get to more out of control fan bases that danny went to t._c._u. They never won anything in one that peace will never be good basketball team me good weird. Y'all have a good day and joe uh-huh enrolled died row. We've got a lot of role ties today. Guys we'll take a break mortem moral tides after this listening to the paul finebaum show podcast welcome back final couple of minutes here. I know it's been a really fun monday afternoon. Everyone back in the the saddle dwight is in new jersey and you're next up. Hello dwight. Hello paul how you doing. We're well. Thank you what was going on bowl all good. What's going on with you. I wanna find a high s._e._c. Gonna handle clemson well. Let's see we're going to see <hes> to opportunities during the regular season with texas a._m. At home and south carolina then we may see georgia or alabama play them later on what i'm saying that we stake. I remember that you use on e._s._p._n. And you talk about that quarterback. A lot of back didn't faith team like alabama and we traded joe. I did say that you're right and i'm from south carolina. Don't get me wrong. I'm from south carolina. I live in new jersey now but what i'm saying pluses rio de. There's nobody going to beat us. Eighteen is a junior. He's dot namic four to forty quarterback. We we re re re re to whether alabama gonna do well. Let me ask you a question and i agree agree with pretty much. Everything you've said and certainly ross <hes> wide receiver. You got plays across the board. What about the what about the clemson defensive line. Tell me about that. They've wanted butts on the on the defense would you do you know paul home ital- how you plug you plug in plug players like the head last year sing. What thing the only thing that new just stop again sitting we feel again. There's nobody one thing by their dad. Bo is a coaching and and we feel in filling in. I'm not concerned about the offensive line because we can make it happen the most difficult thing thing for clemson dwight staying awake all season. We land up man up. Whoever we we play listen i i agree and i think playing texas is is commendable. It sounds like you're going out playing duke. It's not basketball exactly well. Listen you call back. We'll check in and see how it goes. I i mean i didn't say anything. That's outrageous. Clemson <hes> goes into the season as the very best team in the country. Thank you for the call great to have you on. Let's talk to roy in georgia. Hey roy what welcome to the program ram paul how are you. We're doing great. Thank you a second time. Call in <hes> you know roy lafayette's oldest son he he does some broadcast where we know roy well <hes> i was your last caller talked about the defensive line. You know the offense offensive line didn't get enough credit last year and look what the job they did against alabama. I don't take one sack on it but they didn't hardly get any recognition mission by the media same thing with the defensive line. I think this year those guys that were playing backup. Got a lot of playing time. I think they're going to be ready to tell in <hes>. What do you think in that regard. I tend to agree with you on that. I listen you're. You're always gambling a little bit on what you don't know so <hes> you your. I think it makes common. Sense is to say what you said <hes> but i really don't know do you have a prediction for the a._m. Clemson game yes yes. I like clemson that game and i had friends of mine. Try to argue with me saying hey you know based on what happened last year. I try to throw that out. I i know the mashups. I've already heard jimbo versus down ables. I know what happened. I still think last year was a little bit about clemson and just walking into a place and not being completely prepared. <hes> that won't be the problem this year. What's gonna do with the voip us yeah. I cannot wait for daboh to start playing that game again and now that i agree with your winning one title is is great winning to you. Better quit talking like <hes> is your first trip to the to disneyworld okay. Then i have another comment. I was at the alabama football game. 'cause it's been early nineties. I guess <hes> slice was packed nighttime game. One hundred twenty degrees one hundred twenty percent humidity was awful awful night got three rows behind me had a heart attack and i being madison got up what up and started doing c._p._r. We are the fellow and they finally got him out on a stretch. We were in upper deck almost dumped him out of the stretch or trying to get him down from up. There was all and then after the game. I wonder how the fella did you know so i called the hospital are a couple of dr buddies amount. They say well which which <hes> which one was it. He said we have five heart attacks on my goodness football yeah coming from the football game and i said well you know the guy's name. I don't know which one it was but fans get really roy was at the game in the early ninety s yes. It was yeah i yeah i think i've been to every <hes> alabama. Ah clemson game over there and <hes> actually this was this was a alabama south carolina game down in columbia. I'm sorry alabama south korea. That's that's what i've been gal in because i've been every alabama south carolina game out now that was in <hes> remember game in ninety three <hes> that may have been the game. I think so yeah yeah <hes> <hes> it was a game and yeah. I don't know if i've ever been to a game williams brice stadium when when it wasn't a hundred degrees that's the hottest place north carolina on the east coast and the game in two thousand and ten game was in <hes> october i believe but it was still the hottest game i've ever been to a game. I'm trying to remember was an auburn or <hes> <hes> alabama game but it was it was early september game and i mean it was a daytime game as well i mean i don't know anybody walked out of that place believable. I just wanna thank you very much really great to hear from your roy. Thanks thank you. That's pretty bad. When you check in on one patient we had five guys at arctic fans. Do take football seriously <hes>. Let's go to columbus seven four or is it early in the six hundred five gotta buckeye fan here right yeah so i go north. I bet that those gonna do go north gonna do that cole. I do which which food we talking about here well. What do you think of northeast. I mean i i live where i live up. North north is pretty much every place well duckie's but <hes> up north from there. I mean you're talking about there. I'm along with the issue. Michigan is definitely up newsroom columbus go up there. You're you're buckeye fan right. I reckon. I got news for you. That team up north is gonna put you in your place this year i hope they do. I hope they they do their defense because we're gonna rip them apart. I don't think they got transferred. I'll tell you what jim harbaugh ain't got yeah. No chain gets against against nuton. That's what i always like to end this show with. What's the what's the valedictorian of the ohio state graduating class. We will not take a break for twenty four hours or twenty hours. Whatever it is thanks for being a part of the show. If you missed anything on the show except that call you can catch it on the podcast which is available on the app and apple podcast.

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Ep 337 | Amy Coney Barrett Is Too Religious?

The Chad Prather Show

44:10 min | 6 months ago

Ep 337 | Amy Coney Barrett Is Too Religious?

"Party. To another episode of the chat. Brady show studio twitter to the mothership guess who's back the puppet master, the perfectionist himself the puppet master mark is sitting at the helm driving us into the nether regions of all things amy conybeare. Candy. See The queen of the Theo pins I don't care if they do affirm and confirm or whatever they do to coney bear you'll always be the queen. You'll always be. The Queen of the Ethiopians Herbert silent deer looks on same face. Schalke had the same the ninetieth truck hit him part of Steve's in the pub hot. News Natalie. You look tired. You said that I don't know why I mean. I had an early morning for sure I mean for a beautiful human being you look my really well, my hear. ME and Steve looked tired sometimes I. Don't feel like I. DO I look tired Candice looks tired well, it's getting cut your hair. I can throw it up in Bun. Your is fine. Give a vanity shot the Natalie mayor. Mark Look at her I can throw it up. No, don't like your hair sign and just like that. Fans around the country went crazy holy cow flat. You know what? I encourage everybody to do. If you're watching this thing on Youtube, get in on the live chat talk to us a little bit we pre-tape. So we can watch within you normally you know were there Steve's row fateful about being there Natalie's never there? I chime in from time to time. But check it out check it out anyway get on the live chat joined the fact pack that's Kinda hard to do. That's pretty closed up the group but I love him, I, love him party of how they're good to good folks man anyway I we got some stuff I want to get into today I. got some arguments I. WanNa make them fired up been watching them just really go you know what the people we elected officer morons they really are, and they're morons I don't really I, mean I I listen to these senators go back and forth in this thing with only amy conybeare, this confirmation hearing and intellectual answer the question, and then they got to ask it again and she'll answer the question and then they'll ask it again. And she's like. Do. You want me to answer this again. I. Mean Do you want me to you asking me a question again? I mean, is this a question me? She's not saying it exactly like that. She's she's so spot on perfect. It's ridiculous and it's like they can't. They have nothing to come at her with what I was about to say there's nothing to come at her. No. So they keep asking the same thing. Well, they looked in her high school yearbook. Have they looked in the high school yearbook you guys they haven't taken it all the way to Brett cavenaugh levels yet We'll see what happens over the next day. Anyway I gotta show for the read these I read these opinion pieces. That's what I've got him here. I got these opinion pieces that can't DC collects for me and I read them and I just get. Angry I. Don't have the word to talk about the insanity we live in these days. I. Don't I just insane doesn't fit it anymore. It's like. Like that book that Book Sell I. Think it was called by Stephen. King we're all of a sudden. Phone this pulse went off. The game zombies. And some people who are. What's that I'm for that? That'd be cool. But there was some people who were and some people who were normal and it was all because they were on their cell phones were thing went off. Have you watched social dilemma yet candidacy if you watched that thing I have it's very interesting. Highly recommend it. Yeah. That's a PR- if you watched it. It's it's on that flicks I know a lot of you ban net flicks and I don't blame you for doing that. Yeah. I can't ban net flicks because there are certain documentaries that I have to watch and they're only on Netflix. So, what show it's called the Social Dilemma Oh. Yeah. That's on our list. We're GONNA watch it with our kids yet checking out it's pretty interesting. They make it in some places a little more dramatic than it needs to be an all you do is just have somebody talking serious and you throw some ominous music behind it. We should do that here. No. We should do mark. We need ominous music here. Now I'll tell you what I really WanNa do, and maybe those of you listening may be those of you watching can help me do this because I ran across a instagram page Monday night. Of A guy who had created he creates action figures. And sells them. He had the fly that was on Mike Pence's head. Yes and he's got it in the package and it's like non-potable action figures I saw that too Larry. Great. He's got some really cool stuff on his instagram page. He sent me a message yesterday morning saying Thanks for sharing my stuff. I, lean a little left you a little right like I think we both know we'd both lean a little bit more than left and right He said, but you know it's it's cool that you promote must've went kinda get along and Blah Blah. Blah. And I'm like look I don't I don't give a rip where you lean I just think you stuff's cool and funny. But I want action figures I want Chad prager show action. I gotta find somebody who can make some action figures. I WANNA party foul I wanna Hot News I. WANNA CANDY I won't mark with his little headphones. You pull the string and it says nothing. Needs one to that would be cool if it just says pretty good. Pretty good pretty good of missed. You Mark Welcome back but you've been you've been running the show everywhere else. We love chance. But I'm glad you're back had. I mean to Brag but I do have a Barbie. 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Her nothing tired. You got your finger stuck you're on is, yes. Stop It. Stop it, shut your face y'all. Are Obnoxious is like dealing with my children every day both of you. My children have better. Well, I'm better. Sometimes, we have to deal with to beat your ass. Hey by the way, got a number one album called y'all shut ups got a great song on their beat grammy. Grammy. Did you grenade Kasha Grammy. Did you have you seen some of these twitter meltdowns instagram meltdown? You don't spend a Lotta time on twitter. No I'm. Though you love twitter. Love it. Love IT I. Love It. I. Love It I. Love It. I love it. I love when people come back at you. And it's almost instant response. Yeah. You know people right there on it for you. And the trolls that are on their fantastically entertaining. I, love how people think that they're going to get under my skin or something. And they have no idea how much off on it like just enjoy. Like you don't understand the narcissism that flows. Feeding feeding the beast. You you trolls can exhibit your Machiavelli and complex right out my narcissism I'd devaluing narcissism. We'll just continue to eat it up and it helps from my numbers. Amy Conybeare I love she's gorgeous. She's fantastic. She's smart. She's she's. Just incredible incredible person but she's We're being called hypocrites right? Because you know she's faced immense scrutiny on her religious beliefs. And source a lot of people out there say you got to be really really vigilant when we scrutinize anybody's you know anybody that could potentially have a religious bias or discrimination. She was not nominated. Let me just say she was not nominated because of Christianity. All right. You have a faith. I have faith everybody on the planet has a faith everybody. Your faith maybe atheism? Faith maybe politics your faith maybe humanism but everybody has faith in something. There is something that guides your life they trust in. Maybe, your faith is in yourself I don't know. But everybody has a faith. Everybody has a dogma. Everybody has a doctrine. So this article talks about the hypocrisy of Republicans who are expressing shock and outrage over over the scrutiny. That is being given to her over her Christianity and. What the article says is. The hypocrisy is because of the way the right has treated Muslims. All right. So it goes on to say president trump responded to the alarm over Judge Barrett's nomination by accusing Democrats of against Catholics and quote basically fighting a major religion in our country. This is rich says the article from the man who is running against Joe Biden a Catholic who promoted a Muslim ban and told America I think Islam hates us. Okay for the ten millionth time. Wasn't a Muslim ban. Thank you. Travel ban on seven countries. It should have been it should have been a lot more country correct. All right but let's face it. It was not a Muslim ban they were there. You could still come in here from Indonesia. You can still come in here from Malaysia you can still come in here from Saudi Arabia. It wasn't a Muslim ban. But they said he la- America I think Islam hates us well, I got news for you. Just this week we remembered the The bombing of the USS Cole Seems to me it wasn't Catholics that drove that into the side of that tanker. So. I'm telling you just telling you. History, stands firm in that area. So the Senate hearing started on Monday. Josh Holly of Missouri Accuses Democrat. Colleagues on the Judiciary Committee of attacking Judge Bear for being too Catholic to be on the bench. He's apparently living in the twilight zone because this didn't actually happen Mr Biden went out of his way to say judge Barrett's face shouldn't be considered a factor in her hearing. Okay. But it's still is I been here? I've been listening to the Heritz They keep bringing it up. This author says I can't help wondering how would Republicans behavior? Judge? Barrett were a Democrat who strongly religious beliefs came from Islam instead of Catholicism. Well, let's talk about that. Republicans. Would demand. She proved she was not working with our enemies. That's what Glenn Beck ever heard of that guy. Called four when Keith Ellison was elected as the first. Muslim. To Congress they probably use her faith to accuse her of hoping to create a quote Sharia state through judicial activism. That's what conservative bloggers two level when when Chris Christie of New Jersey nominated Sohail Muhammed originally from. India for a seat on the spirit of past say county. If Judge Barrett were he job Janine Pirro Fox? News would question whether religious beliefs were in opposition to the constitution. That's an ugly accusation. Piero Levy gets representative Ilan Omar of Minnesota in two, thousand and nineteen. The scrutiny of judge connection to the people of praise religious community, which opposes abortion gay rights and marriage equality, which believes that men are leaders of their families. Has Been Intense it's fair to debate whether that kind of scrutiny is reasonable. And concerns that Judge Bear has faced bias because of her religious beliefs are understandable. What's clear though is that if a little known Muslim group made headlines in connection with the nomination of Justice, Republicans wouldn't have the same concerns about religious bigotry. Well. What say the see here's the thing. Sharia law. Does not fit with constitution in fact, is diametrically opposed to it, and by the way Muslims also believe. That gay marriage is wrong. Muslims also believe that they're not out there aborting babies and they also. Believe that the man is the head of the home. So this you know people have praised they you're comparing it is some big far right way I promise you. The Muslim faith goes way further in its rigidity than anything that you can bring up about people of praise. Okay. And also Sharia law being diametrically opposed. The constitution is promoted by someone like Ilan. Omar. So let's don't stand those. Don't let facts stand in the way now personally, I have a conviction that Amy Barrett. Any bear. Tony. Barrett. Probably is opposed to abortion on level. He's got what nine hundred kids Two of them were adopted one of them special needs. I have a feeling that she probably does believe that her husband is the head of her home. I have a feeling that she does believe that same sex marriage probably is not. The God's ideal in terms of what he's revealed right in in the Christian scripture. So that being said, she has continually said, she will not let those personal bias weigh in on things that have already had a precedent set by the court. Let's talk about what in the Catholic religion really goes against the constitution. Well. There you go. There you go. Let's waste time. So let me let me to that point. I want to make sure no nobody misses what I just said and I. WanNa talk about that too. When a precedent has been set by the court right? You don't just come in there and use your bias to try to turn those precedents. She said she will continue to honor the precedence that have been set by the court now, if someone were to come along and say. All right. We're going to challenge this and it makes its way up through the federal court system to the Supreme Court she we'll take a look at it then. She said on Monday you don't just wake up one day and say I'm for guns or I'm against guns on four abortion on abortion. You don't do that you at the case as it comes before you and then you deal with it. Now, that case has to go through all these federal courts before it ever gets the Supreme Court. So if you want to overturn something, let's say Roe v Wade or something like that. You don't just come out there. The Supreme Court doesn't just arbitrarily come out there and start ruling over people when a when a judicial precedent has been set. Okay. The it has to there has to be a reason for the case to be brought in. It has the its way to the Supreme Court I mean I. Don't just take my homeowners association to the Supreme Court. Because they didn't put the right flowers out when I gave the money right I don't do that I am I can take them to small claims court. You know but but it's never going to see federal daylight. Sooner me. So went to a precedent has been set just overdue that now back to your point, let's look at how many things the Catholic church, how many doctrines of the Catholic Catholic church violate. Violate? We're a phone. I want to look while I'm talking the Constitution the constitution. So I want everybody to understand you have freedom of religion in this country. It's beautiful thing about this country you have freedom of religion. I wonder if I took a screen shot of this quote. I don't think it did but. That doesn't mean that the government is religious doesn't mean that the government has a religion. There is no state religion and and so when people talk about the separation of church and state s what there is nothing constitutional about this idea that we keep pushing. That is the separation of church and state is that doesn't exist. Okay. What they're saying is there can't be a state regulated religion in other words you can't be forced. When Protestants came to this country, they were escaping religious persecution. The establishment of the government here was that you can't have a state regulated religion that your four stood here. So there's no church of England okay. So to sit there and say that, well, she's getting a free. She's Sheen is getting persecuted fairly because of her Christian faith. Because Muslims have been persecuted? Well, there hasn't been a lot of Catholics or Christians I mean. A lot of stuff have been done in the name of religion including Christianity. That are bad things and their bad things, but they didn't do it. That true Christianity for one thing, and there would be people out there who would argue and say that's not true Islam either. When when people fly built planes into buildings they would say that's not true. They said that was in Islam extremism. Terrorists. And so on and so forth. So to say, well, that's Islam would be an unfair assessment but when ill on Omar. WHO DOES BELIEVE IN SHARIA law gets called out for believing Sharia Law Sharia law is anti-constitution. Well, then that's a fair assessment. It's okay for you to say that Amy Conybeare it is pro-life. But. You can't say that she's going to rule in light of that conviction. I can say that Ilan Omar has done things in our government in the name of Sharia Law. I can say that she has ruled based on her convictions. Not. Ruled, but she has represented. On the basis of our convictions, you see what I'm saying yes I'm just all over the map I feel but but I just I'm like this is just an asinine thing to try to compare these two things. So. Anyway. They think it's some big playbook like most Americans. I'm worried that Judge Barrett will use her seat to advance an extreme agenda that will be detrimental to the interests of the majority of people in this country we fear that if confirmed she'll help the religious right drag. Rights progress back fifty years. You know like Obama did race relations. One thing is certain if the Notre Dame law professor and darling of the religious right were Muslim she would have had a much harder time becoming a judge let alone a Supreme Court justice. There you go. Yeah probably. So Probably would've had a hard time harder time had she been a Muslim? and there are certain things. In the tenets of Islam that I would certainly want to know. But. They're not a lot I. mean let's not forget Ilan Omar was still elected. Let's not forget that Chris? Christie. Did still point. You know you understand what I'm saying. There have. Sat there and you your case study was based on people who either were elected or were appointed and they were Muslims. All that article tells me as that they've got nothing. Reaching. For whatever you know what? I smell. Good. I'll let you see during the break you know y smell. Good. Every day of my life, I'm not like Steve Invades like seventeen times a day. I used do cannon. Guess what they got coming out right now I gave you some of it. Yeah, and I've been using it. It's fall. You know what that means. Sexy. How can? Beer lovers favored event is October fest, and since you're probably not boarding a plane to Bavaro this year too great time to start a new beer tradition with duke cannons October fresh. The beer fest located entirely in your shower. Yeah. I love drinking a can of beer in my shower. 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To expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion. Of Religious. principle. George Washington's true. Farewell Address and what he's saying is You know you you want to rely on refined education. You WanNa have really educated minds complex minds as he says, minds of peculiar structure reason experience. You have all those things, but if you expect national morality. To. Prevail, you can't do it in exclusion of religious principle. That's the problem right now with what's going on in our country is how many people are Defending Socialism As though. Governmental structure the right economics the right mindset. The the right experience, all of these things that's why Monday I'm going to do a special. Special, show on Monday. And I WANNA talk about some in America. Because we're an and I've talked about this thing, I feel blue in the face but. It still comes at me right I want to address things like was Jesus a socialist. was you know he pushing a socialist? Agenda. I WanNa talk about this idea of what socialism is versus what people today think socialism is. Or the things that are in our society now that people are calling socialism, which really are just social programs. So I I want us to look at some of that. We're going to do that on Monday take a little bit deeper dive. into some stuff like that I know that there are people out there who say charge you need to have more humor on your show. is on how win an aunt? Yeah. That's exactly how they. Are Shah hold my Askar. High Gobbledygook Gobbledygook A. Yeah. Anyway I want to. Yes and no, there's times to be funny. There's you know for everything there's a season right? There's times to be funny and we take a a light hearted look at most things but man I'll tell you this thing is at at a point. Now, where you said you were talking to our good friend, the good doctor Dr, Wilcox Dr Wilcox who, of course we had on the show. And he talked about the three big takeaways were corona. He's a he's a course of a different knowledge is the. Weight. Molecular Biology biologists. and. Super Smart Guy Very and. Papers were falling all over the ground and stuff and he was just he had notes everywhere and he looks like he's brilliant a genius. He's got an Einstein look genius. Yes and I. Might be the biggest takeaways I had of that was he said there's three things. It is real. Corona virus is highly infectious and the mortality rate of the death rate of it's not gonNA be as big as everybody thinks, and let me remind everybody that a doctor burks. Direct quote from Dr Burke she said there will be about two hundred, thousand deaths. If everything is handled perfectly. All right. So what are we got now? Two, hundred, twenty, thousand deaths. Give, take so if everything was handled perfectly, we will still have two hundred thou- over two hundred, thousand deaths, Dr. Burke said that at the very beginning. All right. So everybody WHO's out there complaining that trump mishandle this and all my God we've got teached up two hundred and twenty thousand people's deaths on his hands because he mishandled it, no burke said of handled. Perfectly. You'll still have that amount. All right. She said that at the very beginning but anyway talking to the good doctor there. And and you said that he made the comment that he has some concerns about civil war. A lot of people are bringing up these ideas of civil war and I keep saying Nah. Nah. Too. Lazy. I don't even know how to start that and by the way we already live under a tyranny of the military. We. Live under a tyranny of the military the military can be marshalled to shut that shit down. In a heartbeat. And unless you're ready to book up and fight the United States military which I don't think you are there's there's a very and I know people go. I'm not getting into that topic because there's some there's a lot of complexities to that and I know that you guys will argue about how well you can fight a civil war against the United States military God. Bless Ya But now it's just it'll get shutdown it'll get squashed I. Mean we had a guy who got murdered in the street. In Denver the other day who was there as a as a as a you know. Take Teigen's John Higgins little gathering the got together and that dude who's obviously antifa sympathizer based on his past pulled out his gun and shot him right there. Point Blank building. Do we have civil war yet. No. No. Can I go back to your George Washington. Statement let's do a break and then I want to give you the full time you need okay. Don't you forget it Concentrate got right here. You know it'll help you cost. Bars right at their. The built bars baby billboards, the best tasting protein bar there learned about these from Glenn Beck and they are good. Tasty. Tasty. 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Yeah need a protein bar i. hear you want some online. nope. I'm done. What were you gonNA say about George Washington. I really I agree with that statement however. Well. Speaking. To that I, I can't think of time in my life when I've ever looked to the government as a moral compass I don't feel like it's there and you spoke about. How what three parts of our lives? If the Democrats gain all of the control schools. Government courts, schools, courts. What's third? And the media so you see this With this religious talk, are you to religious? Are you too Catholic? Are you too? That's the movement that we see where I feel like as a believer that's just Satan's way attacking 'cause now she's GonNa get penalized for being too loving the Lord too much. I. Love. The learn. Ways right. Like Steve. We already have that in the school separation of church. Right? I mean, we have the media. They. Have the media and in a court I mean obviously separation but is she is she to Christian. Was Not about it, the see here's the thing. Christianity doesn't get a free pass contrary to. This article here in New York? Post says it amy amy conybeare it gets to have it all. Because basically they've set her up as an icon. the Christian faith. The issue, the reason Christianity get such A. Hard. Time. Is. One it's true. I mean you could argue that all you want. I mean in my opinion, it's true. Right, the people who trust in it, the people who have faith in it. there. No more outspoken about their faith. Than anybody else. Correct. But you have this idea these days that it's a Western civilization religion. By and large it is historically. you have this idea that in the name of Christianity. All these atrocities have been done. You forget what was has been done in the name of of other religions. we have this idea that. We should be so progressively open. To all of these pluralistic ideas. That we really should not criticize anything. That doesn't belong to us. And since Christianity inherently belongs to. In many ways, Western civilization. Then, we can criticize that. We can say, no. White Lady and you're white lady religion. We don't we don't agree with you on these issues. All Right? But if a person of color comes out and says, well, I'm a Muslim. This like Oh you know what? Let's. Let's have some tea. Let's. Let's let me show you how understanding I am I do as a white person I. Don't have the right to criticize your religion in you understand where I'm going with that. There's this. There's this mindset in there and plus people have pissed a lot of people off in the name of Christianity. It's one thing for Christ to be offensive. It's another thing for you to be offensive with. Christ and a lot of people have been offensive with Christ. But we have this idea that. That we can just continually criticize Christianity because there's free game, it's open season always has been. One is because of the way in which we make it unilateral and say. They'd call narrow minded, right. Because we believe it's the only way. I've had people who say do you really believe that Jesus is the only way and I'm like well quit everything I'm doing if it didn't. I know what to be true from the Bible Right? I'd go out there and just whatever debaucherous life I wanted to live and and and just go crazy with it and wouldn't have any moral compass whatsoever. I wouldn't waste time with everything and I do that doesn't mean that I'm out there preaching the Gospel I'm not I'm snubbed that's not what to do but I know what God's my life. I know what God's my life right and I'm not answering to you or anyone else this out there that judges me. But. You know the fact that Jesus said, I, am I am the way I am the truth and I am the life in John Fourteen six. He didn't say I'm away among ways. I'm not a truth among truths. You didn't say on the life among lives he said I am the. Definitive way truth in life. So that's very offensive to people and so when you have people who say I believe that human life begins at conception and you don't have the right to do what you want with the body that resides inside of your body, the living being that's inside of you. You don't have the right to take that that's offensive to people because how dare you tell me what to do with my body was not your body. If I say that the husband is is designed to be the head of the home that is a good pattern. Let's say I don't want it that way. Well, I. Mean if you put if you put the rear bumper on the front of the car with the car still drive. Yes Yeah But when it be better? If you put the front bumper on the front where it goes, right? Right Now. There's more than aesthetics there. There's a purpose to the front bumper. There's a reason, the front bumper shape differently than the back bumper. Because they're it adds something to the front of the car that the back bumper can't add. All right. So can a household work without a man in it church Scher but wouldn't it be great if the blueprint was followed that's what we believe. Now you don't have to believe that people out there that you listen to this. You don't have to believe that, but I believe that there is a blueprint for life that if certain things fall into place or you structure things a certain way, they just work better. Now does that make me narrow minded maybe But I just believe there's certain patterns that puts you in a rhythm for your life to succeed. Outline? It really is. It's so that's so it's not. You know we come in we say you look at the Bible and the Bible says okay. Wow. Gosh, if I could get into this. You know there are certain patterns that are there that when followed, they lead you to a successful life. I'll just leave it at that. And there are certain commands that are there that if you don't do them, then you are in violation actually rebellion against what God wants for your life. Now, that's a safety mechanism. So what that means is, here's this great life right here in the center right there's this. There's this fence out here that you can crossover anytime you want. And the issue is not. A defense is keeping me out. The fence is trying to keep me into this great life. Promise we want we have this desire to keep climbing the fence and so when you say things like that, people are like how dare you tell me that I can't climb the fence how dare you tell me how to live my life now we just have a way that we believe makes life work. Every religion believes that every religion believes that but people believe that we can criticize Christianity because that's hours to criticize well, and you said bad things have been done in the name of Christianity bad things have been done in the way that some people interpret. Christianity. Because they go outside the outline. That's probably true with it is true with every religion religious dogmas a dangerous. That's right. Religious Dogma is a dangerous thing. That's why a lot of people say well I don't like the word religion. I like the word relationship. Well, the word religion comes from the Latin Garay which means relationship. Okay. So religion is not a negative it's not a bad word it's been misused and spin abused. and a lot of things have been done in the name of religion and I there are people out there and say, well, we need to get rid of religion. There's no getting rid of religion. Okay and I'm GonNa talk about this on. Monday. When we talk about socialism because. At the heart of socialism is a godless society because it does exactly what Washington George Washington warned us. It puts man as the God, it puts the economy as the god it puts the complex way of thinking and these these these ideals and strategies they make them the God. You saying so we're going to get into that on Monday. It gets sticky and man I could go so deep on that but I at the risk of sounding dogmatic. I'm just trying to be careful with what I say because I want people to understand. There's life available out there if you pursue it. And I think that a person like Amy Coney Barrett. I think she's living that life right and to criticize her for it. Is is just not a good idea I mean to make you know you know so deep but I think we should watch just watch what's happening. Are you to religious? You know what else George Washington said? Oh, my Gosh I love you shut apart Fausti. Well, I was GONNA say I think no matter who the nominee for the Supreme Court justices, those measures for either party you have to go after. and. You know the Dogma lives within you right back. Mine Oh. Man Oh man oh man I feel like that was a pitiful attempt to try and explain all of that but. Yeah. I think he did a great job. It's a lot I mean there's a lot to I. mean there's a lot of it's Kinda hard for me to explain why Christianity gets persecuted over and above a lot of. People say well, you get a free pass because she's a Christian that is not true at all. They're far more criticism. Far More criticism I, mean just the other day I you know social media people like I can't believe all you people who WanNa talk about you know do who holler about being Christians that was her first Holler about being Christians but you don't want to feed the masses. You don't want to take care of people you know. That's a pretty empty. Accusation right there you don't know. I'll deal with that issue on Monday. Somebody else come in on their said, we don't need entertainers as politicians. Chad is he just using his big following to garner votes for Governor We don't need another entertainer. He is definitely not a politician didn't get famous from being an entertainer. We don't need politicians are no we don't need entertainment. We need politicians and I was like, oh no holy crap laying. That's the worse I said thank you for calling me not a politician hat. Yeah. Thank you for telling me that. She's like she's a you posted a picture of caskets float down. That's not a good look. You go to our page and she's all for Biden and stuff as said, you probably vote for Beto Aurore he's he's he's no she said I'm not in good standing because I posted a picture of coffins floating. Down the deal that was funny it was funny called the Biden Boat Parade. People got offended at that. School you pay. You're famous forgiving your political opinion. You're running for Governor to Garnish fans. Who knows I'll tell you what you can do. You can go to watch Chad Dot com watched Chad, dot comes for all the fun stuff is and you can go and leave us a rating and review wherever podcasts are offered specifically on Apple podcast. You can subscribe to the blaze blaze TV, DOT COM, slash chat and get your shopping done shop dot blaze media dot, com, and subscribe to party found nation on Youtube. 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On Jack's Side?

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On Jack's Side?

"Around the world of you've never seen anything quite like one division us a little cup ever question rolling stone rate. It's clever ed. Deary on surreal is finally back and you will believe what happens next chart immortal studios division original series now streaming only on disney plus. He didn't hear last hour. We're talking about linda tripp. Scott a new book out about monica lewinsky and some behind the scenes. Tawdry mess. Or whatever. And i wouldn't read it if you if you didn't hear is talking about. It listened to the podcast armstrong and getty dot com armstrong and getty dot com. But somebody reminded me on the text line member on saturday night live. They had john goodman. Play linda tripp. I believe if you're a woman. Oh if that's an chooses to play and it's not the best moment of your life. That is i answer. Larry great linda tripp. But that's that is hurtful cruel. Yeah yeah kim. Can anybody explain to me the new twitter policy. So i just kinda barely heard. It sounds to me like anybody. Who's on twitter. Can flag a tweet as possibly. That's been going on for a long time like you as a user. Any tweet that. I go on that that i find offensive or wanna report. I can just do that but it's not public. It's not publicly flagged. Like i can flag. I think i can publicly flag any tweet. that's the way it was I heard it reporting it. Yeah whether i thought that's unworkable. That can't be right. I heard the the second half of the story. And then the editorial comment on it. And i was a start up. I didn't know what was going on. So the editorial comment was and this is pretty widely known by. Y'all i'm sure that the tech giant's silicon valley are extremely important in terms of what ideas go round and I mean they're. They're almost critical to getting the word out and they lean way way left and they have an impossible job. Yes they do. It's fair to say. Yeah absolutely how would you do it. How would you decide what goes on. And what doesn't and the whole question under the publisher merely form. The rest of it is really. It's it's more difficult than a lot of people portrayed but the point is they're exercising. Mind boggling power in terms of politics and ideas and attitudes in the united states right now and they they lean so far left there. They're going to tip over and now with the biden administration in office and the threat of relation. They don't want in the air. They're doing anything. They can to kowtow to the administration so they are an enormously important political force in its scares me a cultural force and their evil. Please watch the social dilemma. It is the most important documentary. Come out since. I don't know when i know i hate every time i bring this up because i just know the crowd. That's out there. The first amendment apply. I know i know. I get it all right. Shut up we arguments inside it back. Teach don't don't be rate but the fact that donald trump had eighty plus million followers on twitter and we don't hear a word from him now because one guy decided that right is amazing it is it truly is although you know and teach don't be rate and we've been talking about this little lately if the culture does not support the law the law will go away and if the culture does not support the sacred constitution of the united states. It's harder but people who would like to subvert the constitution we'll find ways to subvert sometimes in in subtle ways through regulation. Sometimes they'll out now change ettore or judges will ignore the spirit and the letter and twisted but the culture of the free exchange of ideas is so important because of that culture goes away. The laws will go away. That's why people talk about free speech and in a way that doesn't specifically deal with congress shall pass no law abridging the right to free speech having said that glenn greenwald who is a fascinating character like people we've cited lately. He's a liberal. A dyed in the wool liberal but he is a classical liberal liberal meaning. I want more government. More government programs more welfare more income redistribution. But all i ask is the chance to make my case. And i will listen to other people making the case and i think my ideas are better than they will win. As opposed to what's going on right now is if i disagree with you. I will silence you through any means. Possible let's listen. Glenn greenwald talking about this clip number. Thirty five please. The democratic party which now controls the house senate and the white house genuinely believes they have a monopoly. on objective truth they believe they're the party of science rationality and the only way to disagree with them is. If you're a deranged conspiracy theorist or seditionists somebody who's engage in criminal conduct or terrorism and therefore they genuinely believe that it's not a show it's not a pretext they all have convinced one another through this echo chamber that they've created essentially the entire media except this network which is why they want to shut it down if you disagree with their orthodoxies and their consensus you are a threat and the danger and it's so ironic. They spent four years. Claiming they're fighting fascism and authoritarianism. And what are they trying to do now. They're trying to harness corporate monopoly. Power to silence everyone who disagrees with them. D very hallmark the epitome of the fascism. They claim to be fighting but which in reality they embody. That is from a guy on tucker. Carlson show who agrees with tucker on nothing except the free exchange of ideas which is really really cool honestly. Let's do one more clip thirty-six they want to exploit their power to regulate corporations and monopolies to. They're saying it outright. They're saying we now control and regulate your industry and we demand that you stop using your advertising money for this network that criticizes the party. In control of that isn't authoritarianism. What is they want to shut everybody off the internet. They destroyed an entire social media platform. They just took it off the internet because they instructed silicon valley monopolies that it was their obligation to remove it. It is very chilling. You really can't overstate how bloodthirsty they are in the control that they're trying to exert over our discourse you have the schools including the colleges the law schools. You have the media. You have the congress you have the executive branch and you call yourself the resistance only a similar topic. Kinda tangential the whole critical theory thing. Which is so insidious it will tear this country country part it is. It is the existential threat. Critical theory critical race theory among other people yada read about the free exchange of ideas who are liberals james lindsay the fabulous james lindsay and his colleague in those hilariously wonderful parody. Social justice papers prank. Helen pluck rose who has started an organization called counterweight and meant to get this to hanson. I i think. I forgot to but so you can easily find this link online counterweight. Well read it aims to create a groundswell of popular opposition to woke critical social justice extremism by rejuvenating public confidence in articulating and defending liberalism. Classic liberalism the free exchange of ideas. Keep an eye on our pages for upcoming announcements I'll check that out. Yeah it's a counterweight support dot com. I think is the website counterweight. Support dot com. But they have an. And i have it ready. And maybe a little later on the our read one or two two they have actual letters that you can send your employer and sign that are beautifully worded with data and weighty like thirties behind you saying. Here's i don't want to participate in the woke theory seminars. You're forcing me to participate in solid stuff gets a really good. Yeah we'll have every later this hour. They've taken a look at the spread of covid over a year. Now and they think they know what works. And what doesn't work in terms of spreading the virus will bring that to you later. This hour Politics stuff that. I kind of interesting. Still looking at the The numbers from the presidential election in the way people vote the number of counties that went clinton clinton bush bush obama. Obama trump trump. Wow isn't that something that is. So what do you make that. I don't know more on that and other stuff on the way text line. four one. Five two nine five k. ftc the armstrong and getty show time for the flag salute. Please leader in the pledge of allegiance this morning vigor. Much of on presents be up. I pledge allegiance to the flag of events tapes. American uneventful budge allegiance to the flag of united states of america again boy stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all their louis. He's sorry you can alexander leon known professionally as kevin de leon is an american politician serving the la city council. He was the fiftieth president of the california state senate from two thousand fourteen to two thousand eighteen. He is one of the most powerful politicians in cal- unicorn doesn't know the pledge of allegiance under visible under visible under his. I think the flags plenty visible. It's everywhere oh boy. How nice job kevin. That's larry's kevin alexander. Leon so somebody is doing a deep dive on how the presidential election went. And i don't know what to take from any of this. We're in such a weird political time trying to figure anything out. I mean everybody's guessing. Everybody is dang guessing As we have been for quite some time because we all knew there was a bunch of what they call pivot counties in two thousand sixteen those were counties that voted for obama twice then voted for trump the two hundred six counties. That did that. America might be. Just you know demographic shifts and then people move in and stuff but if they're going back and forth and back and forth like you were talking about. I mean unless they're coming in like the tide that doesn't explain it. Two hundred and six counties that voted for obama twice voted for trump of that two hundred and sixty one hundred and eighty one voted for trump again. This time around. Wow okay retained pivot counties. They call those. You're getting some com- complicated terminology here sure. Rpc's one take away from all this. The number of retained pivot counties was much higher compared to previous years with large pits for example in the last pivotal election. In two thousand eight there were two hundred and sixty four counties that voted for obama after voting for bush was how many Two hundred and sixty four so they had voted for bush than they voted for. Obama but half of 'em flipped back to romney. The next time around so half came went bush. Then thought you know. I'm back to being a republican again or voting for the republican but with trump that was only twelve percent dropped way down to practically nothing to for people who went obama trump. They stuck with almost everybody stuck with true. And they don't have any Any answers for for why that is. I think we talked about a lot on the show. Just how so much of the mainstream media and macadamia on the left just forced people into the trump camp you're voting against amazon is your for trump and there are thirty five counties that have voted like this in the united states. How would you if you're if you're trying to win. These counties and some of these are like pivotal counties county that goes clinton clinton bush bush obama obama. Did you just vote for who he think's gonna win. And then trump and of those thirty five. That had done that thirty. Two of those voted for trump. Again this time. wow so almost. All of them went. Clinton clinton bush bush obama. Obama trump trump. That voter i dunno you. Tell me. I don't know what they're yeah i can't i don't i don't even know because especially obama romney it was. It was not clear that obama was gonna win at all is there. I know there is a political philosophy that you just alternate like your aren't political party loyalists monday by alternating which party they money. They reach an equilibrium of where we be sure the more terms in a row from a particular party the less likely it is they win the next term so yeah by the way in one more thing. That's really. I don't know if this means anything either but Looking at inaugural addresses over the years in the twenty nine speeches from george washington through with mckinley in nineteen thousand. Nineteen hundred one. Only eleven ever mentioned the bible since then. The frequency has skyrocketed with twenty three of thirty speeches making a biblical reference. So we made when we were a much more religious country by any standards. We didn't mention the bible much during the inauguration. Now that we're much less religious country we practically always do. I don't know if that means what that means tribal affiliation maybe trying to get the religious vote. I don't know. Maybe if i was to think about it As a psychologist sociologist. I'd say there is no need to make the bible. That's what i was. Actually thinking is we were so religious and it was just agreed. We're all christians and believers that. Why would i mentioned that. Yeah yeah interesting complete. Change the topic but worth an update. You may remember The tacoma police officer who was surrounded by violent mob. Have you seen the car. I'm not have you seen the video. People were pounding on and kicked attempting to kick in the windows screaming. Angry mobs surrounding this thirty year veteran of the police force guys almost sixty. If you're not afraid for your life you're making a mistake. Yeah well I recently reread the supreme court decision. That is the bedrock of what is reasonable force. And i wish i had it in front of me because i don't want to try to do it from memory because he decided to drive ford and ran some people over well right in this case. He was surrounded by an angry mob. He tried to back up. They blocked him then. The blows began really raining down and the window started to crack and he drove forward and ren knocked a bunch of people backward ran over at least one person That person is hospitalized with injuries but expected to To people were walk. They're both expected to recover. He immediately called for medical help realizing what he done. But i was looking at the supreme court decision and the long short of it is use lethal force against unarmed protesters. Joe be i know what happened. Well played well played. And there's no defense to that than the supreme court saying that any reasonable offer officer not offer. No reasonable offer will be turned any reasonable officer in this situation would make the reasonable conclusion that their life was at risk. And it's beyond a doubt clear that he was in the right beyond doubt but because of sec- set systemic racism and white supremacy and white cops thinking they can do well always vietnamese. Whoops sorry about that so there's almost sixty year old asian fellow who is terrified for his life. Use the minimum foresee could to get the hell out of there alive and they They burned and looted and smashed up. Tacoma i also just think if you can stand in front of a cop car and it can't go anywhere will cease to function as a society agree. That's all it takes to stop them from going anywhere and dragged him out of the car and kill them even if you just didn't permit and they can't do anything about it right. What are you gonna operate. I guess if if the three of us in this room we're going to rob a bank. I'd stand in front of the cop car. You and sean go into the bank. Sorry i can't do anything. He would shout from his car. Come on media what works and what does it with kovin and getty who the armstrong and getty show ethic coronavirus Game for about a year december was the deadliest month of the entire pandemic while in our minds or at least in my mind like were passed the worst of it. We're not december. Was the worst month followed by now. January has broken. the record january has been the deadliest month now. Second-placed december so. It's been getting worse. Obviously oh boy but we know more about it and It was a year ago february. Whereabout about in february jorgo february that the first death occurred and the wall street journal says playbook for covid nineteen protection emerges after a year of study what works and what doesn't and it's pretty simple doesn't take long grasp all this mask. Wearing good airflow and frequent rapid tests are by far the most important as opposed to surface cleaning temperature checks and plexiglass which either don't do anything or actually do harm and i can explain that virtual harm first of all the surface cleaning thing is. It's just it's just not spreading on surfaces. That's just that's just known so if you go to a store and they're like in between customers sprain stuff down and wiping it. That's covert theater to make you feel better or they don't know that it doesn't do any good. The plexiglas thing is interesting because airflow is so important. They've discovered that Originally they thought it was the big heavy particles that hang in the air that was spreading. But it's the air socialized tiny particles that are doing us in they stay in the air forever. They stare at the air and float. Around and the plexiglas you might be putting in your workplace plexiglass is a good idea to people are coming together for a brief conversation like at the convenience store but if we're going to sit in an office space for instance we are here. This plexiglas that's in front of me is not protecting us. It's only impeding airflow. Oh boy which is actually worse than if it were why. You know what i can picture that you know. I've i've seen. Haven't we all seen various wind tunnel videos with checking cars or airplanes. Or whatever and you see where. The wind goes very fast through here. But they're little eddies that are created. Were floats and your circle. Your search history must be a lot different than mine. I do love a good wind tunnel video. But so if you've got you know a salesforce out there in a in melton stuff that's another favorite what's that you probably don't but if he did have a bunch of employees and kind of cubicles or whatever if you've got them socially distanced and in masks you don't need to wipe everything down and don't put up the plexiglass crack. Open a window crack. Open a window. Get some air flow going. Make sure they're all wearing masks. Make sure they're all you know more than six feet apart. Have your ventilation system fan on all the time as to the temperature. Check over half of cases. Are you caught it from somebody. Who didn't have any symptoms over half the time so the majority of the time you got from somebody who had no symptoms. Wow wow so the whole. Have you had a runny nose cough or a fever in the last two weeks. No okay come in. Well it's less than half the time you you're eliminating people who have had symptoms but what percentage of those people would have tried. I don't think very many am coughing in my lung out. I can't taste my fevers honor and four. But i'd like to come out. And why do you ask right right. And so it's not useless but it's very limited you and then to the fever thing which there's a lot of buildings that you can't walk in until take your temperature. They're talking about doing that at the ballgames they do that at all. You know they do that. The school Only thirteen percent of people who've had covert have experienced a fever only thirteen percent. Oh boy so. It's the vast majority of people who have covid and do a little math in my head. The majority of people who have covid have no symptoms right but the vast majority of people even if you have symptoms. Don't have a fever right right. Wow okay wow so that. Yeah that's again. It's not useless but you're screening a tiny number of people i went in for. I think it was x rays or something like that and they did the old Thing to the forehead lady said oh oh boy how do you feel said i feel great why she said it's pretty high sat for breakfast. I had raw. Bat is a usually do for breakfast. And i said oh you know. I was early so sitting in a hot car reading something she said. Oh wait a minute and then it was perfectly normal. So that's why. I always insist on a rectal thermometer but very rarely accommodated so getting back to the threat of getting back to the threat of the thing. Now i see why. I can't remember the phrase specifically but lots and lots of cheap tests being available. Oh warden because so. Many people are symptomatic. That's amazing that over half people have no symptoms. How many of us have had it. Maybe we've all had it. You know when fidget spinners got. Suddenly there were billions of them available three weeks later. Yeah what were the test. Its profit steve. Martin once said. Yeah but that's fine all right priest price from high enough the profit. I know you can get them through casco. But they're awfully high for for a guy who feels great. How often is a temperature. Check doing any good whatsoever. How many people are actually so unaware. They don't know they have a temperature and don't know that corona viruses the thing. I don't think i ever had a high temperature. And not known it in my life and then in have temperature not know it. I guess or be no. You'd have temperature. And not knowing i guess is the only way this would work or be disdainful enough of The the rules in rags are all gone by these days to think. Yeah i got a fever but Screwed i still got whatever so my knee x-rayed or or or whatever this accountant's office but so they're catching practically nobody with the temperature. Check places right. That is almost. That is almost kobe theater. Yeah well and there's no democracy early hours because we're all guessing and trying to do our best. I was wearing gloves everywhere. I went early on when we thought remember. The original story of it can live on a surface for seventeen hours or something like that. I thought oh my god. We're all doomed. Nope mask mask is by far the best thing you can do for yourself switching gears completely different story because wanna get this on. This is pretty big when they started. Renaming stuff i remember saying at the time you know it's gonna some point jefferson in washington and you know and slippery slope back. Can't possibly happen blah blah blah. But he'd be that stupid and ignorant of history is one thing. I'm learning as i get older. You got to fight all these things the very beginning because they will go to the next level the san francisco school board has voted to strip the names of lincoln in washington among others from local schools. Freaking george washington. Washington is idiotic lincoln is astounding. I'll just read you the article. This just happened. The scoreboard in san francisco voted to do away with the names of dozens of schools in the district that some deemed hold offensive histories among the school set to have their names changed our low high lincoln high washington high roosevelt middle john muir elementary crate scott and feinstein elementary school which all explained in a little bit feinstein elementary school obviously named after dianne feinstein who was mayor of san francisco wa book now lowell high school named after lowell george of little feat the great southern band but the what's the rationale on some of these you'll hear measure it is just chilling. It's a message to our families. Our students in our community. Sit ignorant ramos's and board member mark sanchez and well known ignoramus not just symbolic. It's immoral message. You're a bad person and a jackass in a moron. I would like to debate you in public. Lincoln's name was recommended for removal from one of the city's high schools due to his reported treatment of native americans. We fought in the war against the black of the blackhawk indian. Wow that's right yeah. It was briefly in a militia that was called up early on his life. That's right amazingly and not all of you know. London breed the mayor of san francisco. But she is like so far out there you know. We've called her a crazy person for a long time. She's african american but she's on my side. She has voiced opposition to renaming the school saying the board should focus on reopening the buildings to let students deal with the coronavirus pandemic. it's offensive to me. Is someone who went to our public schools. Who loves our public schools and who knows how those years in the classroom or what. Lifted me out of poverty into college. It's offensive to our kids. Were staring at screens day after day instead of learning and growing with their classmates and friends. You know london breed makes me insane. Sometimes but then she'll turn around show flashes of sanity that Are amazing and so people in for saying that in spite of the opposition of many of your your teammates. London well done. I don't know if she said moore but at least in this coach she wasn't willing to say you're morons your morons shut up and she says that any extension. She's just making the argument. How 'bout we spend more time thinking about how to get the schools open and not whether or not we should take washington's name off of school or lincoln briefly fought against the indians when he got called up We shared the quote the other day. The past is a strange country. They don't do to do things like we do. So washington's avi slavery what's roosevelt is teddy are fdr. Sure it's teddy sherry said something untoward about it could be fdr a japanese internment camp. There's there's a backlash against any roosevelt. Remember i don't remember oughta was. He got his name taken off that museum from well. He had the attitudes of his time. Which don't match with the attitudes of some people of this time. They find amazing and is bill. Maher said you'd had those attitudes to if you were born then and not now. You're not better than jesus. You're not better than ulysses s grant. You just came after the judgment of the past past figures. Like this and and we don't talk about this enough. It's a form of self aggrandizement. It's an ego trip. I mean it's it's ego masturbation for these people showing how high and mighty they are. How high and mighty. I'm gonna take down george washington. That's how important i am. That's how much self-esteem the schools gave me. It's really it's pathetic. I if you'd have told america. Twenty years ago george washington's name would be taken off high schools. You you you would not believe how could possibly get there. S to dianne feinstein a task force recommended. Feinstein's name be taken off. The list of forty four schools sent to be renamed recommendation the board ultimately ignored. We have to take feinstein's name off. Why because she decided to replace a confederate flag that had been vandalized in front of city hall when she was mayor there fifty years ago forty years ago a long long time ago so long ago that flying a confederate flag in san francisco is okay. That's all ago was but anyway it got vandalized and she put it back up and so she shouldn't have her name on a school renaming. The schools will cost a million dollars. That's not really the biggest problem. It's a problem but that's not the biggest problem. How freaking amazing is that whole story. So yeah i mean it's it's really troubling shows. You how crazy these people are and it's funny. It fits in with a couple of other things that are brought into talk about. Maybe we can. Maybe we can't fit them in today. But this piece about genders morpheus transgender thing in the title is. It's not just gender dis morpheus. It's now rapid onset marxism and it makes the point. That marxism and i remember this one of the moments seared into my mind for my college education and you know i wish more of the moments of my education received into my mind cause a lot of them kind of just floated away but it was this professor explaining how the nuclear family is actually an oregon of exploitation and that we need to do away with the nuclear family and and he was serious. She was serious tone. She was dead serious. How's your how could we please stop using chatter language right so i sat there. Sleaze do not use gender language to to address. Everyone's looking so. I was sitting there slack. Jawed is a nice presbyterian mid western boy with an intact and beloved nuclear family thinking. How the hell can you. Can you be saying this. I was just astonished and it turns out she was a marxist. No that now but the back to the gender thing and what you were talking about one of the techniques marxism marxism leninism to get really specific. You must tear down the meanings of words and reassign those words to your new meaning. You must tear down a people's history and render it meaningless. The only thing that matters is the present and the party you have to tear apart institutions including the family and make the government the marxist government the organ of everything that happens and so it's interesting. We've hit several stories. Of how crazy are these people they want. Tear this down. Rename this the rest of it has right. There's a strategy involved right right. That's the whole two. Plus two equals five thing. You change the meaning of two or five. And you've you've changed math the change everything and then everything is possible. Right george orwell pointing it out is peace pieces war The rest of it if you no longer have the the mooring of your history the meaning of words what you know to be true the institutions the family than all you have is the party in their doctrine and by the way the doctrinal change next month. And if you're still spouting last month doctrine though pushing into lager put you to death. But that's that's such a key part of marxism and the gender dismore. Morpheus thing the what they're pointing out is and they're not talking about people that have legitimate issues. They're talking about the craze is an and it goes into some detail is really good but we need to take a break. But they're talking about they're trying to pretend there's no such thing as men and no such thing as women to to further break down any mooring you have to what is real well. How far is it moved. How fast dianne feinstein can have her name on a school in california. Yeah wow that's amazing. The armstrong and getty show the road. We took today is essentially a mirror of the vote. We will take at the very end. Forty five republicans. Don't even think the procedure don't even think that the trial is constitutional and so that shows you. They are not going to win so rand. Paul finagled in the way that senators can to have a vote yesterday on whether or not you think the impeachment is constitutional or not and it. It didn't he's he was saying it's not constitutional it did not pass because all the democrats and five republicans voted against it so as fifty five forty five but his point is if you got forty five republicans against it. Obviously you're not gonna get anywhere near seventeen for conviction. so what's the point. His point being the constitution doesn't provide for impeaching golf course developer donald j trump now is the five republicans that voted with the democrats. I think i can name without even looking at the list. Mitt romney The the those two women that always do it. Susan collins of maine and the murkowski of alaska does that get you to three. I don't think i would have known this. If i seen this ben sasse nebraska. Yeah and then pat to me. That's your that's your five. But all the other republicans including mitch mcconnell Forty five of them said no. It's not constitutional now. There's some talk that some of them told reporters. We'll just because. I voted that this was unconstitutional. Doesn't mean i won't vote to convict. But then it's sure hard to square logic wise. I don't think it's constitutional. But i think he's should be convicted but yeah wait a minute. No no no no no Yeah i think that's your vote. isn't it probably just. Maybe i'm not bright enough. But i can't picture what you're saying the scenario where you say i know. It's clearly unconstitutional. Hold trial at all but guilty. I mean come on. I heard somebody trying to explain some sort of double reverse that. Nancy was pulling with the because the question is why was the impeachment articles so narrowly focused on the incitement that speech being incited in sight. Full of our insurrection as opposed to just more of a general thing but some sort of knew it wouldn't pass and that would cause republican that way too much three dimensional chess for me They want republicans on the record voting. That trump doesn't need to be held accountable for inciting a riot for that. But i would have thought well because the american people don't follow things that closely or understand the nuances So what they do in the impeachment is make it very very narrow. Something that can't it won't they won't convict on it. The speech is not enough to convict so she intentionally ran something up. The could never be convicted but publicly. She will say he said the election was stolen. He claimed it was a big beautiful landslide. He delivered the speech. The people stormed the capital. And that's why we're impeaching him. Think the the framing of the democrats of what the impeachment was going forward is going to be much more broad than what the actual charges that were voted on. I'm sure that's true. Yeah exactly if it ends up being a loss though in the vote is like it was yesterday owner phil feel like it was a time well spent or not history will tell i gotta tell you i spend in my real life zero time thinking worrying about this particular subject every time it comes up. I'm really. I'm like slightly spice. Oh yeah that's right the impeachment. I'm how what was i going to say. It seemed important at the time Zamba blah blah blah the president the senate notes gone gone forever karl marx. If he was alive today would be a four hundred pound guy sitting on his bed in his parents basement. With whom monkey tail beard. That's why the text line four one five nine five. Kfc somebody bringing back the monkey tail beard. If you haven't seen it. 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Hour 4: 3/5/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried, passion and pageantry of college football lives here. The the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. We reached the final hour. I know that sad some of you. But. We still have an hour though backwards. More phone calls at eight five to four to seven to eight five. Richard is in Tennessee on this Tuesday afternoon early evening. Hello, richard. Hey, thank you for taking McCollum, first time caller. Thank you long. Right. Wonderful. Thank you. You got a great show. No. I'd like to say a few things about Hollywood. Okay. You know, personally, I don't have anything against her four is just personal. But she's not she's not coach for Tennessee more bat Sammy. She wanted to bask programs it at a basketball program there was and then in seven years she's tower she's tall that bound and got beaten by Vanderbilt's. I well thirty three games and Knoxville and the she has got some athletes, but they'll play little wildlife. She's trying to teach them the they start playing away. They wanna play and a girl for two or three mistakes and kill tanker out. So you're all right you alright. What Pat summitt when she would never do anything like that. She just started them down the name that. London Times the better talking, but she he needs to leave if they're a basketball job after for woman coach, and we have to whistle. I recommend all for that job because she is good Whistler. But I'll hang up listen to your comments. And I thank you for calling and also. Trey for all the people remember them, danley, Cami, Alabama and more places. And the prayed Lord hip them every way take fell. Thank you, Richard. Thank you very much for saying that Larry is next up in North Carolina. Hello, Larry nice of you to call Paul first time caller from Durham, a wonderful. And I had I heard earlier the talk about the nineteen ninety Georgia Tech championship team and the one blemish the head on their record. That year was a thirteen thirteen tie with UNC. Well, and I happened to be at that game. Okay. And you NC was they had thirteen to ten late in the fourth quarter and Bobby Ross decided to kick a field goal to tie that game. And a lot of Georgia Tech fans have really upset with him at that time for not trying to win. But I bet you couldn't find any of those people actor, they gotta share the national championship. And one other thing I remember about that season. Was someone asks Mack Brown on his show who he voted for for the national championship and his had voted for Colorado. Which probably since they were UNC was maybe slightly above average team six four and one that if you if you couldn't beat them you had to kick a field goal to to tell you and see you probably shouldn't be checked national champion. That's pretty funny. One other thing I would like to say. The hurricane and Alabama. And I hope all those folks are going to be okay. And I'm so sad for the people who lost their lives and their families. But I was reminded. I remember I think it was about ten years or so ago, the Oklahoma City tornado which was similar to that. It was it was a terrible storm. And now, I remember Kevin Durant was own site on the next day talking to allow that homeowners and survivors. And he made a one million dollar contribution to the survivors and the affected, and and and when I watched them, boom when you return to Oklahoma City, I couldn't help. But think about that. How many how many athletes would have done that? Yeah. Larry fans are crazy. But I I do remember that. And I I spent a lot of time around tornadoes, and I will say that the people that after the storms in two thousand eleven on the radio station. I worked at at the time. We would go there quite a bit bringing bringing whatever we had and the people are so appreciative just to be remembered. It's it's you could you could say this is a playable in almost any tragedy. But the first couple of days people are there for you. And then they they start to dissipate. And that's when that's when you really need help. Whether it's through necessities or just spiritually, and I really appreciate you saying what you did. Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent great to have you take him a call. Thanks. Larry. Great to have you on from Durham, North Carolina. Let's continue Don in Montana. Hello, don. Hey there. Nice of you to call. I actually live preserve the visit here too long. And it had a. Plus about so getting. I wonder why they are. But as rather than they do when she on the road. What was that name again? John. So he can again. So this is oh the Mizzou. Yeah. Quite a player. She. Yeah. Nacho misunderstood. Yeah. I mean, they are really good being a little bit rough around ages against. Yeah. We don't we had Jim stark on yesterday, the athletic director, Missouri. And even though things are not going great there from the the NCWA stamp when he talked about the I think we're five different programs at at at the university of Missouri. That are currently ranked. Thank you for that. Call do good to hear from you. And Ben is in Jacksonville. Hey, ben. Oh, you're on the air. Jordan had. Going paul. Calling about John Adams article in Knoxville news about how germy prude is bond pace of Butch Jones today behind hold on Twitter or you can pay. Yeah. Well. I didn't get to read the article and tell John his less slowly be running out of things to say if he would compare Butch and and Jeremy Pruitt right now, if you're one year, you can't do that. I I don't know. Listen, I didn't read her either. But I think Jeremy privileged on a really nice job of building a foundation of substance as opposed to sizzle. Right. And that's what I was kinda calling. I was like well during his behind pacey going, oh, an eight in the SEC we be going somewhere. No. That listen, you know, again, I never wanted to comment on something. I haven't read. But well, I will if I can. But but, but I I don't know. I I'm not sure I really understand that. But I'll check into it. Thanks for the call J w is in Tennessee, and you're on the air go right ahead, j w. Yeah. After noon early and you got both you Paul. Yeah. I just won't give shout out to the ball this evening over here on holler ground over here. It's some you got it and senior night big night. And. But anyway, we really really enjoyed watching these boys this year we're hoping for a deep run. Just go show you when the fans are behind you at these places. And of course, learn about rematch. Couldn't help but spokes rat or whoever or he kind of honed in on bone eight forgotten. I forgot the name the six or eight their pile So did not coats bars has got over on the bench. We ain't got see that yet. But anyway, we've we've enjoyed watching the mile. SEC really really strong. If you're looking for looking for a good turn. Yeah. The you have three abs- absolutely elite teams. And then you have a next group where Auburn maybe Mississippi State could could make a run. And then you have a you have a lot of teams that are just literally sitting on that bubble tonight is going to help shake it out a little bit, especially Alabama, Alabama and South Carolina. They both desperate for wins. But it's going to be a fascinating couple of days here as we get ready for next week. Thank you for the call. The man the myth. My Griffeth is coming up. Next listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. Let's let's get the man up here my Griffith, Mike. Thanks for the time rate to have you on. We were chatting about this subject, which we really don't know anything about. So that's why we want to hear you you're so what's going on. Don't tell me the games leaving Jacksonville. Well, that's that's far from the tree that hasn't happened yet. I mean, it's contract goes through twenty twenty one. So, you know, the game's going to be in Jacksonville for at least the next few years. But it's something that Georgia and Florida are looking at, you know, Scott Strickland did a interview with Pat Dooley after the season and kind of said never say never, you know, Kirby smarts, brought up the disadvantages that it puts Georgia and Florida or especially when we talk about recruiting let's face it recruiting is the lifeblood for every program, and if I were to say to a Georgia fan, you know, what you're going to have one less official. Visit weakened than. Alabama Auburn in Tennessee every two years. They would say what did we do wrong? That's not fair. But that's what happens when you play at a neutral site like Jacksonville. You can't bring recruits in on official visits. They can't visit your campus. You can't spend time with them. You can't pay to fly him in. They can sit there. But it's not like the team and the players have a lot of opportunity to visit with these recruits. So as Kirby smart said at the end the last year, you've got away the value of the the beauty of the setting of Jacksonville in that stadium versus the value of what would be a huge official visit weekend for Georgia when it's an Athens and Florida when it's in Gainesville. So where he said what's got? So what about the what about George Assad another they're still digesting the Auburn Georgia game? But what's the word in that building? Well, I think Greg mcgarry likes it. I Greg like, I think he's a proponent for the fans and. A lot of fans that go to that event. They really love that event they love Jacksonville. And of course, you know, last year was the first time I covered that robbery down there. And it was nice. But it to me doesn't have the game day environment of Athens or Gainesville. I liked the events on the campus. And you know, I don't know how many people watching been to downtown Athens. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find another college environment in college town that has as much to offer as Athens in terms of the the restaurants in the pubs and the energy the safety of it. I mean my goodness last year in Jacksonville. There was a shooting the week before within a couple of blocks and shooting in a parking lot after the game. I mean, you know, there's other things here other than money and Jacksonville pays. Well now. Jacksonville pays Florida and Georgia those schools make an extra three million dollars. Every two years to have the game down there in Jacksonville. So they make a little extra money, but they also take a little bit of money out of their local economy. I can guarantee the. The city of Athens would like to have another home game every two years, and so it gains those they try and stay in business and and have taxes for their infrastructure and their school system. What what what's the realistic possibility of this thing happening? Shoot depends on you know, what I think it's up. I think Kirby smart has a lot of say in this. And and if anybody understands the tradition to this game, it's Kirby smart and Kirby has spoken out about the pageantry of about just how cool it is. How unique it is to have the fans split down the middle and to play at that, quote, unquote neutral site ninety miles from from Gainesville and whatever four and a half or five hours from Georgia. I guess the argument is you can get on an airplane and fly there's quickly from Athens as you can take a bus from Gainesville. But here, nor there I think Kirby smarter is the guy who's going to make this decision on Georgia's side. Listen, they trust in Kirby curves done a great job with this program in three years. He understands what's at stake. And whether it's worth the trade off. And I do think there's something to be gained. Again. I would challenge anybody if you haven't been to downtown Athens. I've never been to a better college town, frankly, Paul, well, listen, I. Not gonna argue with that, it's a cool place. And I think it speaks for itself. Let me let me clean up on the Auburn, Georgia situation. Where are we there? And when do we expect something official yet? Well, let's call it the Tennessee Georgia because that's really what we're talking about here. Now, again, we're talking we're messing with tradition, and there's a lot of Georgia fans that like to shoot the messenger. So I wanna be clear. This isn't my decision here, folks. Okay. This is what the SEC in Georgia and Auburn and Tennessee of worked out as far as that game. People got used to the Auburn game being in November. Really what Georgia fans wanted was. They wanted that payback. Paul. I don't know if you remember when Missouri and Texas ain't joined the league but Georgia had to play two years in a row at Auburn. And in in Georgia's been waiting for that payback. Well, they didn't get it. Instead, they got the game moved up to Tober and the Tennessee game moved back from October to November and messed with a little more tradition. Here's why it makes sense. And here's why Kirby smarts. Right with it. And your interview with him set it all he said on your program on national signing day about how the Georgia program and other elite programs would be getting younger as time moves on now with these kids enrolling early in school and going pro early the elite programs will get younger and younger. And if you apply that logic to a regular season younger teams are going to round into form better in November a team that recruits better like Georgia. They're going to be deeper. It's going to be advantaged Georgia in November. Now, some people will say, well, why would you wanna play Auburn before Tennessee? And this starts in twenty twenty by the way, the answer is because those programs are trending in different directions. If you didn't notice Tennessee beat Auburn last year at Auburn. Yes. I know Tennessee had some ugly losses. But if you take a look at what Phillip former Jeremy Pruitt or doing there, and I would say how that program looks moving forward compared to Gus malzahn. I don't know he has he renegotiated his contract in the last. Ten minutes. I mean, the guy looks like he's hanging on for dear life programs trending in different directions. Tennessee, I believe will be the better program in twenty twenty. It will serve Georgia well to play Tennessee in November instead of October when they're younger players are older. And also Paul you avoid the possibility of rematch. Ing Auburn in the SEC championship game happened a couple years ago where they had to play Georgia Tech and Auburn back to back weeks Kirby said it SEC's spring meetings. He didn't want that situation. Again, how much of this really has to do with Kirby smarts obsession with beating saving. I think it's all about Kirby smart wanting to win a national championship. You gotta be Nick Sabin to do that. We gotta beat Nick Sabin to do that. And whatever, you know, eleven dwarves. He's got lined up is this coaching. So I don't even I can't keep up with who. It doesn't seem to matter who the assistant coaches are at Alabama. But you're right. They've got to beat Nick Sabin. They've got to beat Alabama. I think they've got to get again twenty twenty a lot of things will change. I mean this next season for joy. Georgia. I believe is the end of an early window when I took a look at how many juniors could go pro and redshirt sophomores. It's possible. George blues four out of five starting offense lineman as well as Jake from their quarterback, a junior now Georgia fans don't want to hear it. But the reality of it is there's a lot of talent coming up for Georgia more talent in this next draft class than what we saw this year at the combine I would say, so what are you saying you're saying are you saying Georgia and pass to beat Alabama this year? I'm saying they their best odds to beat Alabama are probably this year from what we've seen the last two years. I mean, I'm never gonna say that Alabama's down because I haven't seen it and everytime. I think that Nick Sabin can't possibly pull it off again with a redo or a made over staff. He proceeds to do it last year with the best regular season in SEC history. You know, the Clemson game aside, and and what happened there with two is injury. But still I'm not gonna. Count Alabama out. But as I said on this program the last time, I appeared I think this is the year Georgia beats Alabama. This is the year Georgia beats Alabama and for what reason. Because of the death that I talked about because of all the returning players because Georgia has the best offensive line. In college football. I'm gonna assume, and I gotta be careful because the last time I made a prediction, I assumed that a team would be healthy and that team started five zero and then they proceeded to leave lead the nation and injuries and the head coach got fired a year and a half later that was the Tennessee volunteers in what twenty sixteen that started five and and had visions of an SEC title injuries can happen. But let's just say they don't Georgia. Let's say that the Andrea swift and Jake from state healthy, and that they don't lose to their best defensive players like Tennessee did a couple years ago all things being equal. The Andrea swift is a top five finalists for the Heisman Trophy next year. When he's healthy. He's hell on wheels. All you gotta do is. Look what happened in November. When swift was finally healthy. Look at Jake from third years started coming back. This offensive line is the best offensive line. In college football, the front seven will be much improved. And they've got. A pair of safety that I think are on par with any in the country. This team's loaded Paul. Okay. Well, listen one thing we like about you, Mike, you don't you don't sugar coat, it, you just speak your mind, and we will digest what you had to say. And I'm sure you will thanks for coming on as always great, my Griffith saying it, very clearly it's a singly at this is the year Georgia will beat Alabama. I think I heard him loud and clear. Your reaction to that. And other stories when we come back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. We're back. Okay. Everybody's back here. Glad you're here. This is a slight tonight, South Carolina state and Tennessee who really good games Kentucky on this Auburn, Alabama good night to watch college basketball. But I tell you what I didn't. I did not know this gentlemen until recently. But you talk about a star on this program. He is ROY Philpott. We had there right now, ROY Philpott boy, full pod. Bill pot. With you once again, and so it's one of those classic traff matchups while the bubble watch is on for to sonic blockbuster. Neighbors have this writ about this game screams bubbalicious I get in the base. It's different bide here. And I think it's a good bye. One of people magazine's anyway, ROY joining us from from Tuscaloosa, Damian, fish bag is Damian. I don't know if you realize what star you're in the presence of right there. I mean, are you kidding me? We are dancing with the wait until you see what happens tonight a little tease surprise for you for the Auburn, Alabama. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, we're we're delighted both your before we get to the game. And I have to ask you as a as a proud Auburn, man. Just to to try to put into words what we've all been talking about the last two days since the horrific tornadoes, and there is a sports element to it. Because this basketball team, I know is grieving like everyone else. Well, we talk with coach Pearl at the shoot around earlier today. He said that it was literally seven miles from his home, and you could tell from the look on his face from the sincerity from the genuine concern, not only he, but the players had that it was weighing on a little bit and often times, and he said for for all people to know that his thoughts and prayers are with them, but often times, and, you know, this is well as anyone when you have this type of adversity a lot of times people actually lean on sports as somewhat of a release, and that's what I think that all people, and I think in particularly coach Pearl and the team to provide for some people tonight. And I know ROY it's part of this game that we will be watching later, and there's no escaping it. But but there is a game. And it's important for Auburn. It's really important for Alabama Alabama has been living on the bubble. It seems like the last five years it's five straight seasons. They've been here at seventeen and twelve and I think Paul you understand as well as anybody seventeen and twelve in this conference this season is vastly different than what we were talking about in previous campaigns. So they need to win a chance to pick up that very valuable quadrant one victory. And I think with a win tonight. They don't cement themselves into the field of sixty eight but they get awfully close. And this is one of those chances and where they got a chance opportunity to get that big win against a rival to enhance that resume, and you you can feel the energy in town. So far today. I think since we've arrived, well believe it or not almost mister show Paul because there was traffic. All the way to call me Coliseum. Well, let's ROY is actually right. Probably one of the bigger games that Auburn and Alabama have had a very long time because there's so many implications from his game coz pro talked about the ability to finish in the top four and get the double by versus actually finishing knife. And when we spoke with coach Avery earlier. It was a different type of mindset it was a workman. It was down to business. He was still his smile and Avery Johnson self, but he was all about business, and I expected to be electric here tonight and Damian again, Auburn will not be at full-strength Wiley doubtful or not even possible. Well, we think he's doubtful at this time coach Bruce Pearl said at the Kentucky game that he did not reinjured it, but but he actually aggravated the lower leg injury. And so as a result, they want to do what's best for awhile. So they're gonna give him ample amount of time before he comes back and play. Plays. And you know, that's tough on him obviously wanting to play in this basketball game. But at this time of the year, I don't think anybody's full strength. And I think this is going to be a no excuses type of mindset ROY talked about Alabama in the situation that they're in. I think coach every Johnson has actually done a phenomenal job. And let me tell you why in just his third year. He gets to the NC double A tournament advances around knocks off Jimi tank and gets beat by the national champs. He comes back. This year loses a top eight draft pick. And now he's backing a situation where people probably didn't think they were getting a tournament. They're backing a position to do it again today. But I do this agree with world one thing I believe if they win their in. I believe this game. Is that big? I believe they could take a loss at Arkansas. And maybe depending on who they play in the SEC tournament and still getting Auburn still got a chance to get a double by the SEC tournament right now, they're in a five way tie for fourth place. Bama is in ninth place and can. Finished anywhere from the top four in the conference to the bottom for based on what happens in these last two games starting tonight here against rival Auburn and Daming aside from what you said, and I I understand the point about Avery. But I did hear take phone calls from Alabama fans, and they they're on edge, especially with with another loss to Auburn if that happens tonight, and we're talking more about that than a win. I agree there. They're certainly improving their stock. But but a loss would would really cast a pall over over Avery's career at Alabama, and I'm not suggesting any change because I don't think that would happen. But certainly it would be tough ending to the season. Sure, I would respond respectfully to those fans, and let them know that even though Nick Sabin built Alabama football today. It's not the same as basketball. Right. There's there's only one Nick Sabin out there and for coach. Savory Johnson is going to take time. And so to have the ability to get to the tournament last year and to be in a situation where you knock off Kentucky here at home. You have wins against three or four ranked teams throughout the season, and candidly have as many quad one and two victories as as most of the teams that that are actually in the field or on that bubble as well. So I think they're right. There is still a long season ago. But for those fans who probably wouldn't wanna hit a lot for me. But I would say take your Paul's and be patient because if you don't what I've seen so many times in college basketball, respectfully to these universities, whether it'd be UCLA, whether it be Indiana when you make quick changes, and you don't have cohesion and continuity, look at what happened at Auburn when they when they actually fire coach cliff Ellis that actually builds a wall and that builds a longer distance that you have to travel a lot of times to rebuild that continuity coach every Johnson's trying to do this. This year. Listen, whether they want to hear from you or not Damian they did. But one thing we want to hear more from is ROY. I don't know how to tell you this. I mean, you're trending on. All the finebaum Twitter feeds you have become like the star of this college basketball season on this show. Please come back. Well, tomorrow, Missouri, Georgia, I'm requesting another appearance on the Paul finebaum show from Athens. Yeah. You're on. I don't know where I don't know. Who's in charge? Your anyone will be here. But me, but I'll set it up. We will see you tomorrow night same bat channel dutiful. Thanks, paul. Thank you, very much Damian and rifle bought we are up against a break. Coming back with the remaining few minutes of this Tuesday night. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We are back. Glad you're with us here. A couple more minutes to go rich where am I John is in Columbus, Ohio? Hey, John gerrad had thanks for having me try to keep a quick here. Thank you. Notre Dame that guy earlier having the top football coaches. He had Brian Kelly really high above JIMBO. That's ridiculous absurd. Mapra diction is I he will be lucky if he sees the Michigan game after what Georgia we'll do to them next year next season. If he sees the Michigan game before he's let go anyway, I'm friends with a lot of Notre Dame alumni, and they have it in their minds for some odd reason that the three coaches that will replace him. If he does go as Dan Mullen, Davos waning, and Sean McVeigh. I mean, I for John I don't see Davos weenie in that. Dan mullen. I mean, Dan Mullen would be a candidate anywhere. But I don't think you'd be you would be in a hurry to go to Notre Dame much your why McVeigh? What I would go. I don't know why anyone would go to Notre Dame. I think it's a thankless job. I don't either. But another thing is old Chad Moore's for Arkansas. Yeah. I don't think Arkansas realized how good of a coke state got. I think he will win eight games for them this next season. Thanks for having me on Popo. Thank you for calling. Do appreciate it very much, Richard. If in Tennessee, hey, Richard. Hey there. I'm calling to say that my family. I went to Alabama just ahead of the door. Nate we've been investment, Florida gum Canute. And I pray with everybody down spending. The one family is the ones that that will. Thank you for saying that. And the other thing I'm calling about is sports writers and this pole. Yes, they have no respect for Tennessee. Who don't do clues? No Duke losers to how to three and a week and their ranking Bubba. Richard. You know, I I I hear all the tendency of. Stories, but I think Tennessee fans just ought to worry about know getting the season over getting to the tournament and proving everyone wrong than hey, thank you very much for the call. Jack is in Tennessee, and you are next up. Hey, Jack how to here? To hear from me bother. You. Bet foul your undertone of sense of humor is awesome. Thank you. I I mean in this. That's the reason I watch your show when you go mart may nine though that as a stop, and he's your staff a third grader. How does it allow that? Yeah. I probably I was probably I think I erred on that. And it sure there. Oh, hi. But to comment Hollywood Hollywood Musco, I agree. But high the balls for women now now I'm site that won't be on record for that. But above all that. And you know, I'm a big huge ball fan. I hope he wins. Not. But that's not the focus of what we need to be focused on. We got a rivals in Alabama that we need to be. I I'm a great sports fan. But I people down in Alabama are hurting. And I want to take this opportunity to say anybody that help out and Santa little money down Lahcen little water. Whatever let's do this. I love you, Paul. I love your show. God love America. And let's say a little money. I'm thank you for letting me back do. Appreciate it. Swami is up next. Also in Tennessee. Hello swami. Hey pilot. Thanks for taking my call. A while not Griffin. He really is skin skunk. Amy. Did you call Guinea skunk? Oil. Yeah. I've called you that too though. You know, Tennessee fight a great gang Saturday. And you know, everybody knows it written Barnes was a home run, hire Tennessee, and that's really not been there policy over the years. But do you realize oh, Paul? There's only been five teams in the history of Tennessee basketball. This one more than twenty five games in season. And he's already on two of them. Bruce furrow one too, but he had thirty one of that elite eight year and Jerry green he won twenty six one year. He forgotten about Jerry green who had have your policy list lead sixteen. Thank you. Sure. You know, I've seen I think the owner of white Houston dirt, you know, at over the weekend. And you know, I think the way it went to Tennessee and brought Allen with me probably co cost Danny Kremlin, Louisville, probably two national champions. Probably did. And you know, as far as hard award goes, Pat, some of these already being gone. Let me say this about Holly, and people are really fired up about it. But I think this the next three days are going to determine her future. I don't think there's any mystery what's going to happen. If she loses early in the tournament. And if she wins, it it just it complicates things a little bit in terms of win the decision is made. But but there's not a lot of support for her right now, you know that. Yes. Okay. I got one last thing before we Paul. You know, we got a big game in the lines football this week. We've got Steve Spurs Landau team for no plan to Birmingham skinny school or Android where where's that game? Have you got where I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Yeah. Birmingham. Just lost this past weekend. I don't know. I'll have to check. I have to get my af pocket. Schedule out. See what I game is. Thanks for the call. Amy is up next, Amy. Thank you. Good afternoon. Good evening wherever you are. Glad you're on. Good evening. Hey, you know, it is evening in Kentucky. How are you? It is. But I tell you what my fiance's from Tennessee. And we're having some trouble right now. This is a listen as someone who understands this. This is a dangerous relationship between Tennessee and Kentucky well valley. Tennessee was just the football school. But now they're showing up on the basketball court. It's really creating some problems for us. We'll see I mean, Tennessee beat you guys in in football, right? Yeah. They're pretty good football. But we're not our grown. Anyway, just wanted to call in and say go cats where when are you guys getting married, by the way, November November on Tennessee's by week? Number two. Remember? Yes, sir. We're listening to how long have you known this, Tennessee Vall? Well, we've always been cousins, but we really started about two years ago. So you you known him how long? About two years. Two years. What how you said you were cousins tired. Tired? Yeah. Well, there there goes every joke that's ever been told. It's now we can't tell the jokes anymore. Okay. You heard it right here. Third cousins. That's how bad third better better than I we are done. Double without hearing that thank you for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019  Show 2 (April 9, 11am)

Digital Production Buzz

39:57 min | 2 years ago

NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019 Show 2 (April 9, 11am)

"The digital production buys it NABC is sponsored by Maxine. And by simply a global distribution brand. Right now, we are talking with palm Marshall electronics noun logic hand signal corporation of America this day to the two thousand nineteen and AB show. And this is the digital production volumes. Law from the two thousand nineteen AB show in Las date. Technology technology problems. Nude connecting media professionals around the globe with the latest in technology. The NABC show by starts now. And welcome back. This is data to the two thousand nineteen thousand ABC show and businesses busier than ever we're going to be talking with Jeffrey Wilkes. He is the chief revenue officer for pon five. Hello, Jeffrey, welcome very nice to be here. Thank you for having me. That's a delight. I love pon five. You guys have some great stuff going on. I'm looking forward to hearing. What the new news is. But for people that have heard of pond five, but doesn't know what you guys do. How would you describe the company? Sure punt five is is the world's leading video first marketplace for content of all types of bit of media. But primarily were there source for video we have the world's largest market and up to fifteen million clips now available online twenty four hours a day. Fifteen million clips is impossible to search through. I mean, I definitely don't want to catalog all those things. How do you find stuff? Yeah. So search is one of the things that we spend a lot of time in technology team. We've built some tools to make searching quite a bit easier. One of the announcements were made at. Nebi? This year was an improvement to our visual search tool, which we recently, patented visual search tool allows people who perhaps aren't good at text based search to actually which is an easy. I'm pleaded guilty. Yes. To find to us Representative clips or images to find things that look like that a social me a picture that looks like this. Yes. And then show me a video that looks like this, and the changes that we made this year to the video search tool are threefold first you can search by composition. So what does it look like in the picture itself? Caller, if you want things that look like you're wearing a maroon shirt if he wanted maroon items, and then this year, we also put a scrubber. So if you drop a video into our search engine, you can move the scrubber to any specific frame, and when it's on that frame it will show you that look like that frame specifically. So it makes the process of finding license clips a ton easier for that is so cool. Yeah. That is not simple programming to do. No, no, no super complicated. And we have some really tremendous people who are much smarter than I do in that kind of work. So you've announced improvements to the search tool. What other news do you have? Yeah, we've got three really important partnerships that are that are burgeoning and becoming more important for us. The first is we've had a year long partnership with DJ I but we've expanded to a global partnership this year. Now what that means? So that means we are taking in DJ certified artists people shooting aerial or drone footage or certified as legal flyers. We're making that footage varies specifically available to our customers so filter bubble on the on our site. You can go to five hit the aerial engine and you'll get certified aerial footage. Now is the certification important because it's shot by a piece of equipment or a certification because it's legally ice licensed pilot. So it's about a licensed pilot. It's it's not about the equipment per se. What we want to make sure is that people know that the people flying these drones are flying them with the appropriate certifications. So that's what we're saying. Cool. Okay. So certification was second one. The second one is with red cameras. So we built a partnership with red. And we recognize that people were looking for specific output from red cameras when they're shooting with red. They wanted red camera footage as well. And so we've built a marketplace for red. So you again go to our site hit click the red button, and you just clips that are shot with red cameras. Very cool third. One third one is with apple in pro reservoir. So we've started the process of building a marketplace for that output at footage. The pros raw footage itself right in its infancy. So right now, we're we're launching is really a call to artists. So if you're shooting and you're out putting in progress row, we want your footage will build a marketplace for you. So people can find that type of footage tip. No, pro Rochon is a gigantic format and not all of us have huge pipes to the internet. How you could taking submissions. Yep. So are ingested ends going to get as special. You're going to get into the technology and technological challenge here. But I'll I'll describe it, isn't it. The best the best way to describe it. As it were. We're figuring I way to compress it when it comes in. No, that's a different question because the files are so large is there a way to send you say a ten gigabyte file on a hard disk or on the thumb drive in have you ingest it because if I had to upload ten gig file, it would kill me. Yeah. Absolutely. We're very capable of doing that. People people submit to us in a variety of ways and and often through through hard drives. Oh, really, I did not know that cool. Okay. So we've got a relationship with pawn. We've got a relationship with and certified pilots and progress raw and third one. Again, was what? Third one was progress DJ and red cameras and also improve the search engine. And we search visual search tool that I described anything else that's new I don't want to cut you off your now. Those those are the new items that we're talking about today, and it's really been a great experience for so far. We're seeing a lot of traction for all of those all those programs I described and in particular, I would encourage people to go to check out this search tool because again, nobody else can do what we're doing. It's and we've also built browser extension. So if few are in crow or you're in fire, FOX or your. Searching on any kind of site using one of those browsers. We can have an immediate tool for you to download the content that you're looking at into our search engine that is very cool been a minute of time, we've got left or so what's a feature of pon five that you think people don't know about that's kind of cool from your perspective. I think the most important thing for for people to know about pond five is that. We're incredibly artist friendly, and we were built on the notion of created sustainability for artists. So what people probably don't know as we have the industry leading revenue share for our artists to contribute on our site. How show so we're we're paying artists. Fifty percent ref share and our competitors are not doing that. So they're paying much lower rates, and that gives artists the ability to make more money in earnest sustainable, living, creating the content. They that they are inspired to create every day. Now, I could be confused and goodness knows that happens frequently at an AB, but I think you announced a different kind of revenue share for people who want to be exclusive on pong five is true. We recently did and those artists can you earn even more on our side. So we're going to take that industry leaving share and move it up to sixty percent sixty percent if you're materialists exclusively on that's correct. And fifty percent of it is not now, we'll drop down to forty. So when is it fifty percent? It's fifty percent. Now the program hasn't launched yet. Burgum is inches away from launching very cool. So right now fifty percent and in a bit whenever the program launches. And you get the details time, then it goes to sixty or forty correct how many artists you representing Jeff a sense right now video artists, there's at least thirty thousand onset, and are any of them making money tons of them are making money, obviously, you've got a sort of classic pro role where you've got an eighty twenty where the twenty there's some twenty percent who are making a lot of money or particularly good at understanding what cells in the in the stock video marketplace. But that for that long tail has got lots of people who are making their living, quite quite well. Well, the people you're talking to are the guys to shoot stock footage right now. What tips do you have for them to create stock? In other words, what should they shoot? What subjects do you need said lots of subject sell? And that's one of the reasons why we're so serious about building the marketplace that we have increasing our advantage in. Total clip count because every day somebody comes with a new search for us every day company. Somebody comes with something else that they need that they've never seen before. But to help artists do what what you've just asked is. We've built a contributor portal on our website artists. Go to that contributor portal Incan download shoot briefs which are the most important things to be shooting at this time. And we update those shoot Shukri son almost a monthly basis. So you they can go to your website and say this is what we need yet. Then go to our website, go to the computer portal, which is sort of their home on our website. And they can see exactly exactly what selling today and for people who wanted to track down everything the pond five is doing work in that go on the web, please come to pon five dot com. They make it simple as only five letters p and d and the number five on five dot com and Jeffrey Wilkes is the chief revenue officer for pon five Jeffrey, this has been a fun. Visit thanks for joining us today. Appreciate have yourself a wonderful show. A great launch take care. Every year at the NFC show. You'll find more than a few attendees camping out at the Maxon cinema four D booth all day why because Maxon hosts presentations by the most respected three d artists and visual effects, motion graphics and design this year. There will be twenty eight unique presentations from twenty one different artists, even if you're not attending, and you can watch all the cinema. Four D presentation streaming live at C four d live dot com. And if you register you'll be entered into a raffle to win from over twenty thousand dollars in prizes. Can't watch live. No worries all presentations will be made available on demand on a on YouTube channel a few weeks after the show mack-san's cinema four D stopped by mack-san's booth at any be and south lower sixty three twenty four or tune into the livestream at C four G live dot com. That's C the number four D live dot com. And welcome back to the annual tooth AB show. This is Larry Jordan talking with Todd musk grave. He is the director of cameras for Marshall Electric's Todd good to have you with us out. Thank you very much. So tell me what Marshall electronics does. So we've been in the broadcast industry for about thirty years. Now, actually, I started the camera division. There was a need for something in a small footprint full b and c broadcast frame rate and resolution, so I launched the camera division. Well, when you say small footprint, how swallow these cameras we're talking about a less than two inches, less flare. Two inches, right? I will confess three years ago after chatting with you. I went out the week after an AP and bought a a martial electrons Campbell he parked in the Rafter VAR studio and just use it for generic white shot. And did a one of job. We get a lot of video for raid. Jio applications as was sports now, so worship and other things. But I'm sorry to tell you that we have a new version coming out at a month. So. Maybe we'll we'll provide a upgrade. What's the new one about? So the new one is the five oh three essentially told me that in English. I can't. They only depart numbers only live in my head. But it is a mini HD. Sti camera. We increase the size a little bit in the sensor still HD still HD Tenny. The I in P and seven twenty p at fifty nine point nine four. We had twenty three point nine seven. We have a lot of cinematic James Cameron owns a small production house in Manhattan beach near facilities, and he's been begging for that frame rate for a long time. So we've added more frame rates more adjustability has one of the benefits where cameras remote adjustability where he can match your cameras up to with other cameras in the production. Plus, no pin a picture because there's these cameras are really useful in unusual situations. It's a replacement for studio Campbell shoes we're used to these cameras used. So we see them quite a bit in international racing. Circuits for curb cameras for pit cameras in basketball. You saw the game big game. Last night for backboard cameras or. NFL incidental. A they'll use them in the coaches booth for another perspective or attached to the pylons or built in the pylons or touch the goalposts. So I go to a lot of SVG events. And they always discuss are there too many cameras in production. I know I always say there's never enough. Obviously southwick. But but different perspectives ads in an immersive experience for sports. And that's what we're doing or sports. Production is doing is to add production value with different perspectives. One of the things we're hearing a lot about it to show his video overripe e they're currently connecting cameras via SDI. Yes. What's thought on moving into IP? So we have we have Indiana situations we have IP cameras, but the little POV size. It's mostly STI HDMI actually do quite a bit in pro V as well. So it's we offer HDMI version small format. But so we've always. Shot for broadcast quality video. And that's what would continue to do. I now we're using the newest in sensor in processing technology in refining, low noise and and good ipad patterns because the people that we deal with. It's funny that they don't look at the video quality. I plugged into a fabrics. And look at the signal vers and see how. And see how perfect drive had an is. Right. But I always say, well, you know, the great let's plug it in and see what the colors look like and other stuff, but they do that first. And then they do to the colors talking to the wrong kind of people. So I've been this industry. I've been into long the company that I worked for has been in for thirty years. So I've been in for about seven years, but it's been exciting ride with the POV cameras. Tell you about wireless, especially with cameras your size, which are like the size of a lipstick case to really all ended any chance for expanding into the small wireless. We look at that a little bit. But put our thing is we want want you to plug into a workflow. Right. So we're right next to visiting and we were viz link, and I am t for microwave wireless solutions. But we do collaborate with a lot of companies and broadcasts. So I could take your cameras use me for because I just had a flash is that I don't need to have the wireless from you. I can get the wireless from anybody takes the your camera feed. It into anybody's wireless at us you for generated image in somebody else to send it back to me. Correct. And we also worked with a battery solution. So so we're we're twelve volt in Oliver mini cameras that we plug into a wall war or to we get a lot of on car type stuff. For a grand juries mo-. World rally championship uses microwave virus, they use four of our lipstick cameras in each vehicle, and you can select your favorite racer online. And see it linked sinked four quad that vehicle. So there's a video feed of the guy shifting the gears the map guy in the bad guys. He's just holding on for dear life it left. Right left. Right. But a picture of him. You know, sweating and it in front and back, but I'm always surprised at the usage of our cameras. And and I love to hear the applications because it really grows and grows and grows and now in front of the drummer or muse live, concerts, we're using on their Mike stand just for a shot of his face and projecting it up. But so people say, you know, we to saturated with points of view. Now, I think you don't have enough points of view, and we more and more is very immersive experience. I think your your partner was to see five. Oh, three as the new camera. That right. Are there? Other new announcements. I don't mean to cut you off India run out of time. Indeed, we have a four K and you camera at sixty France for second and thirty frames per second. But we've added HDR so as a free downloadable firmware. You can bring that down off our website load. The new cameras new features and have each DR our ability, and we're going to support p q h l g so so not only a refresher. Where POV cameras would. We're also adding features all the time with the four K stuff. So all new small form factor cameras. Indeed. Who who does how do you get hang on who censor using as it wasn't you developed so for the four K stuff, it's a Sony sensor for the small stuff. It's panasonic. I'm not too proud to announce that, but we're using the latest and the greatest of whoever has the right size and shows the right performance will we'll take it and we'll refer. Find it and make it small and and and release so very very cool. What trends you keep him lie on what I'm not asking for product non-swiss, but what you lifting about from future. Well, she said stuff is moving the IP. So we are Z cameras have heaven Indiana capability, we're looking at raw Indiana for some of our larger format, and well, it it lack of a better term probably. But h word n d I h x is a little bit different than than some of the other solutions have but. But I and small format we've a lot of quest quest for a little vs with IP direct out. So. As we expand and make resolutions larger obviously, the you have to go to compression or you have to make it palatable for workflow. So we're always interested in doing that interesting stuff for people who want more information about the cameras that Marshall Electric's mix available where can they go on the well Marshall dash USA and do a search or look through our cameras selection. Those two words separated by a dash that's M A R S H A L L Marshall dash U S a Marshall dash USA dot com. And Todd must grave is the director of cameras for Marshall Electric's Todd. I wish you a great show and successful launches throw the and we'll get shit. New motto camera lick look forward to seeing a Todd. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you. Welcome back. We're talking with Roger may bond. He is the CEO of 'em logic. Roger it's always fun to talk with you comeback. Hi, Larry, great to see. Thanks. So for people that haven't touched base with 'em logic. What you guys do in these days? So we specialize in the design manufacture of LTO tape archiving solutions. So now you've been involved in storage before I met you about 'em lodge? Sorry, what was it about LTO the Kaci interested? Well, like you mentioned been in the storage industry for quite a while. I started a company called g technology firm that we've heard about relations on now a WD company, but nonetheless, so I've sold an enormous amount of hard drives and raid systems in my in my past and. It was great. Because when I when I sold G tech, I was able to take some time off and hang out with a kid in the family. But I realized that there was a place in the market to for very easy to use archiving solutions to protect all that content residing on all those spinning drives that I had sold back in the day. So that's where the idea kind of came from and LTO's been around for a long time. But what we did would choose unique is at a thunderbolt connection to these devices tape Rives, which made it incredibly easy to hook them up to you know, any any connection to it. Why is it because I've one I've had the pleasure of working with with 'em logic tape drives them several occasions. You sent me some review units, which I'm very grateful for. But why is it that that that LTO is still SAS based when so few devices have SAS built in versus other protocols. Yeah. I mean, that's just these these L tapes are now exclusively made by IBM. And the majority of these tape drives do have a native SAS connection. That's just what IBM is doing. It makes it difficult to connect them to a MAC because you would have to have a board which you can't do with the MAC, hence, the reason why we engineered this Thunderball connection to native SAS drive. So that's basically what we've done to make make it into a beautiful package thunderbolt in the back in at were very simple. Very nice, except I've learned that you've got wonderful hardware, which is the drive. But then you need software to be able to drive the drive and to be able to back up your files. How do you throw that problem? Yeah. So when you buy one of our LTO devices, it does come with our own app that we've developed it's based on this technology called L T F S, which I think you've heard at linear tape file system. And what else does which is also an IBM technology is mount the tape as if it were like a hard drive, which isn't able in this drag and drop. Analogy to the tape. So our application, you just choose the volume or files that you want to archive and literally just click a few buttons. And it'll it'll archive from your source whatever it might be to the actual tape. So that little application just comes with our products, very very simplistic application that said we do work with many, many third party companies that offer bit more robust L to archiving solutions, big databases and meta data and all that stuff. So it's easy to get your assets back when you want to restore those companies are Yata imagine products storage DNA ARCHE where there's numerous partners that we use. And we bundled software which gets me to the fact the word aby. What have you got? That's new. Yes. So our new product that we're showing is a it's a hybrid solution. So it's basically a raid and LTO so. We have high speed thunderbolt three raid with eleven drives in it to get super fast performance or online where eleven drives. Correct. Little excessive alike. The speed. Yeah, it's super super fast. And so you can put eleven drives either spinning or SSD drives in it or a combination of both. So some people had a little SSD for super fast, and then a big bucket of spinning dries. But anyway, the unique thing is that also has an integrated LTO tape in it. So. Integrated lt. Oh, yeah. So basically once you propose show up essentially, those are two different devices, but they come in on the same under Bill. Correct. So there's one under bowl pre connection to the host. So very simple. Very simple. So once you wrap your project, you know, you take the content does migrated to the tape and then start over the new project. So then you have you know, the whole thing here is L te'o is safest medium on the planet to store digital content. And that's the whole idea. You don't wanna have the content residing on spinning drives because that's a recipe for disaster. You will lose data if that's your plan of tack for for our Carpi. Thinking of that before we talk about more new features. What do you advise for archiving shy? Just make one tape. Well, it's certainly better to make one tape in keeping on a hard drive sitting on a shelf hundred percent. A lot of people do make to tapes and aim to be of the same footage that way you can have one vault somewhere. So you can have wanted to vault and to locations, basically, the the b- copy. So and we had devices that are lying to simultaneous copying to tape. So then the copy so for the ultimate security to to tapes at the same content. There's been a problem with getting LTO eight tapes, which is something that you're not in any way responsible for. But where do we stand with that? Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I just by the way, just got this for my HP frontier. That's a little Cousy that says L T O tape rocks. So I thought that was kind of funny, but I was speaking to him about it. But what's going on is there's a lawsuit between Fuji film, and Sony, and I don't know actually the details of what they're fighting over. But it's intellectual property of some sort, and that's been going on for months and months and months LTO, eight media, the tape media is simply not available, and it will not be until this lawsuit is settled I'm hearing rumors that it's getting close. But. I've heard that before. So I'm not holding my breath. But it's unfortunate because. Yeah. LTO media eight media simply not available here. Well, if I buy the latest LTO eight drive is there any tape. I can run on. Yeah. Yeah. So we have this protocol the tape which is the one that you know, you've reviewed. Thank you many times. So what we're seeing is that customers are purchasing the LTO hardware and using LTO seven tape media and end up. Absolutely he'll read and write LT of seven eight hardware, and what's the status of LTO nine so LTO nine I don't have a real firm date. But I'm thinking it's a couple years out still yet so interesting the thing I love about archiving is it's deadly boring until you need your files. And then all of a sudden, it's just the most critical thing you've ever run into. Absolutely. And and you do a really nice job providing simple easy to use gear that allows us to backup. Our files and get it back again, which is about as boring as watching paint dry of till you need the files. Very much. I would agree with that. It's not the sexiest thing, but it's a critical part of the workflow. And that's one thing. I see I travel around and go to post houses, and I ask people, whereas all your media, you know, in the lock meal. You know in the lock me over to a cabinet full of hard drives. And I'm like, oh, wow. Okay. Man, you need to try to talk to. So that's that's our mission at this point trying to educate people that you simply cannot keep the stuff on on hard drives. It's got to get backed up. It's to get backed up and the company that doesn't m logic for people to want to be able to get information about your products on the web where can they go? He can go to 'em logic dot com. That's all one word the letter M logic elegy, I see that's M logic dot com. And Roger may is the CEO of logic. Roger wishes successful show at happy launch. Thank you Bye-bye. I want to introduce you to simply workspace powered by store next six. 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Now, I want to invite you to continue listening to the digital production buzz after and ABN's for almost twenty years. The buzz has covered the media industry for creative storytellers, we look at new technology new techniques and the people who turn them into programs from production to post marketing and distribution, we focus every show every week on helping you grow your creative business we webcast on new show live every Thursday evening at six pm, Los Angeles time, then make it available for download on itunes Spotify Lipson and the digital production buzz dot com. Join the buzz family and discover what the future of media Holt while you still have time to plan for it. I look forward to chatting with you each week. And welcome back today to the show. This is Larry Jordan talking with Jared Ivy. He's the senior technical Representative of sigma corporation of America. Welcome jared. Thanks for being here. Thanks. Thanks for having me sitting on my table are some of the most spectacularly beautiful black, aluminum and glass objects have ever seen. They are works of art, and they are sigma lenses. What are these Jarrett? They are gorgeous. I so I have two of our most popular lines are art series of still lenses, and I think the ones that you're commenting about are sending lenses the cine lenses are just beautiful. They have little picket fences around them. So I can't touch them with barb wire across the top. Because you wanna make sure that only qualified people are able to the are lovely tell me about the cine lenses. I'm so the city. Wins. Really have to start kind of go back a little bit and history music has been making optics for almost sixty years all in this still side in two thousand twelve sigma decided that they wanted to kind of reengineer their entire line of lenses and come out with being able to produce the highest quality optics that they could but still keep them at a reasonable price for many years sigma made some some very nice lenses, but we're always kind of known more of a value brand than quality brand. So do they wanted to to change that and they did? So very, very successfully. You know, we we came out with a new line of lenses called the global vision nine of lenses, there were three categories contemporary sports in art and the art series really kind of became a brand all on its own. What's the difference between the three contemporary sports in our contemporary our lenses made more with? Saizen weight is taken into consideration. This the art lands on the other hand, they put as much glass in there that they need to be able to hit all the check boxes of of what a high-performance Lind's would be. So extremely sharp sharp being resolve, you know, fifty plus mega pixels. Very limited. If no chromatic aberration, nor does not distortion, you know, minimal ghosting and flaring in the sport line is again, very high optics. But those are more built very rugged with all male chassis and whether ceiling she the art series. What it sounds like filmmaker should be most interested in. That's what we found. Yeah. Know the art series where we're outperforming pretty much any other lens and its category at the time, and a lot of filmmakers were using them and actually paying a lot of money to have them modified to the IRS to be able to have a longer throw for the zoom and focus and have the geared rings. So sigma did did some research and saw that there definitely wasn't market there. And after a few years of of doing consulting getting feedback out what they what? But the cinema lenses should really have as far as mechanics go because they already had the optical design set from the from the art series. So was really just are. They had to do for the mechanics of lens. Do sixteen segment outs. They were coming out with cinema lenses. Since then we have released three more Linda so now where we're sitting at ten prime lenses threes. Zooms all of them are full frame cameras with the exception of just two zooms or super thirty five. One thing I learned when I was doing the show several years ago is the differences in class lenses use what a sigma us for glass. I'm so like most optics manufacturers, you know, they do get their raw chunks of glass. There's they get them from another manufacturer. And there's there's a few major optics manufacturers in the world companies it just specialize in creating glass. Correct Grech dinners. You know, the reference book for these things it's just it's very very thick. You know, what the optical designers? Do is. They look in the see. You know that they want certain specifications for for lenses. You know, they go through this huge huge huge catalog of lenses, and we want we want use this when he's that. So what's interesting is a lot of Lind's manufacturers may be using the similar types of glass, but it's how each of them, you know, it's the order in which they put them in. But r- really makes the difference when they get those Roger glass how they grind them and polish them the coatings that they put on a match. What makes them unique to each to each lens? Sigma does make a few of their other lens elements. You know, a lot of our spherical lenses. We manufacture ourselves that is show cool before run out of time. I've been having so much fun learning about lenses. I forgot desk. You've talked about the fact that you release the cinema lenses, which new for the show for you guys. So at the show, it's nice that these are the first time that people actually able to test out the. The first time ever to test. These help it at a trade show at this level to be able to test out the newest folk links, which of the twenty eight t to t one point five forty forty millimeter T one point five and the one five t one point five, but the the most recent news from sigma is we just announced that we were going to have eleven lenses for L mount to measure of you're familiar with L mount like know, the communicate with mount I last year photo kina like Sigmund Panasonic got together and create an element to lions into now all three manufacturers are going to be making lenses and cameras the will support each other. So it's going to be a. Very this. Eliza simply change as you change. The mount system out make difference in how the lenses simple, or is it just the back into the lens the mechanics of the lends itself both both if you take diesel our lens. Remove the mirror box from DSL. Our camera, you know, and bring the sensor closer to the to the mount you're the distance needs to be compensated for so with if you take the lenses that already designed to to have a element of very close to the rim out of the lens. You basically just need to spacer. That's that's what we've done to kind of meet the need for Maryland cameras. That's come you know, very very quickly in the last couple of years. She don't have to reengineer the lens itself the positions classes, what I'm struggling to say, whatever that technical term is just how the back of the lens mounts to the camera. Correct. Correct. And the way that the industry is going as far as that those size cameras from it cameras. More manufacturers are actually designing in from the ground up new lenses where the amount is is a little bit closer. And it just the way that the the light comes out of the the rear the rare the lens image circle on his little bit different than DSL ours. I think in the. Future. We'll start seeing Moreland re-engineered that are going to better suit that on what would you say to reassure filmmakers that they should consider sigma lenses because you are new to the film making industry unit. Really? It's it's coming testing out when we are third AB the first one everybody was asking what's been done on these. It's been done on now that they've been out a little while a lot of people have either shot with them or know somebody that with them, and they they're getting excellent reviews. The end of the the one thing about this and cygnus business model has been high quality lenses at a reasonable price. The price point that we're at has kind of put us in a category where people consider budget Lind's but win for owner operators. We were hit immediately by the larger productions and some of the bigger rental houses. Were testing out. The white are white England's when the DP saw what they could do. They want to see the entire line. That's very exciting for people who wanna learn more about the lenses at sigma provides. Where can they go on the web, WW dot sigma semi dot com. That's all one word S G M A C N E sigma cine dot com and Jared IV the senior technical Representative of Cigna corporation of America. Jared this has been very informative. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you. It's been pleasure. Take care have a good show. I wanna thank our guests today. Jeffrey Wilkes with pond five Todd muskrat with Marshall Electric's Roger may bond with them logic Jarrett via sigma corporation of America. Our senior producer is Debbie price. Our show producer Paulina per sq transcripts provided by Simon says my name is Larry Jordan and thanks for listening to the digital production buzz at the two thousand nineteen and AB show. The digital production buys it N A B was sponsored by Maxine. And by simply a global distribution brand, the digital production bows. And maybe is copyright two thousand nineteen by Thilo LLC.

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NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019  Show 4 (April 9, 1pm)

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NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019 Show 4 (April 9, 1pm)

"Yeah. Back china. Good. Good. Back. The digital production buys it NABC sponsored by Maxon. And by simply a global distribution brand. Right now, we are talking with black. Magic design Boris affects less pain software and killer tracks this is the digital production buzz at the two thousand nineteen NAP show. From the two thousand nineteen AB show in Las Vegas. Technology acknowledged problem media. Thanking media professionals around the globe with the latest in technology. The NABC shell by starts now. Welcome back. It's date to the two thousand nineteen show. And my name is Larry Jordan yesterday. Saw a number of surprising announcements from variety of companies. And we also on our shows had a number of Mason guest in this show. We put the two of them together in the same place. We start with black magic design and thinking of cool things we've got Dan made the president of black magic design who's joining us. Because black magic owns half south lower hall. Their booth keeps getting bigger it's now two point seven million square feet. Dan. Welcome back. Nice. Larry great to be here with you, man. I tell you you can land aircraft inside the black magic booth what Lee smaller start small and then go from there. If it wasn't that we were underground helicopters taking off. So what's news this week? So black magic every year. We come to any be we have zillion new product announcements we blow the doors off the place, and it's been exciting for us this year. Is only a little different in a few ways. First we start with Davinci resolve resolve big part of our platform. People are excited about what we do with it. And we spent years continuing to add new capability into the software, adding editing, adding fairlight, adding in our visual package this year. We decided we wanted to actually do something entirely new. And it's always when you do something new because when you're doing it behind closed doors, you're worried that you could really screwed up, basically. And what we kept hearing people as they wanted to go faster and work, faster and beef Astor. So we've created entire new page within dementia resolves, which is called are cut page. And this is something that's never been done before where we've said we want to have a way for people to bring in a bunch of media able to slap it all in together and the most quick fast and efficient way possible. And the scary thing there is that we didn't wanna go in and mess with the at page because all of the pages in resolve really cultures. And you don't wanna go it and say, hey, man, you're cultures all wrong. Do it our way we really wanted. To do something new from the ground up. That's never been done before. So we've added this new cut page which allows people to bring a bunch of footage in be able to work quite quickly. And we we almost applied some of our own manufacturing knowledge when we talk about no wasted movements. I'm not digging menus, not assist makes us me uptick. But does this mean that you're not able to add transitions or affects her to flow from here to the application page. What's it use of the cut pay part? There is it does have some of those applications where you can go ahead and put simple dissolve simple transition simple cuts fades. But it's not gonna give you all the options that the edit page does. So if I'm saying, look I've gone out and done a bunch of shooting today. I'm getting on the train. I wanna work on my laptop. I don't need to everything. But I just wanna go very quickly and start assembling things. I could do that all in the cut page. But the great part is because the Vinci is just a series of pages that is already all loaded up into. My edit page already loaded up into my collar page. So now, if I'm saying actually change those transitions I want to add titles or move onto color move onto visual effects. So it's it was very important for us to be. To do something that was additive and not destructive in a way that we said, but we're willing to force upon you as an editor or as a creator into create this new environment that will allow people to quickly move from just being able to bring footage in quickly trim at it assemble. And then they just wanna put it to you too. Because it's fortnight video. And I'm good to go great. You can be done with that. If that's something. That's just a first step for you to move onto a longer project than that's a way to efficiently. Get in there something that just needs to be skipped in tirelesly. There's nothing wrong with doing things the way people have done before sounds like this is a great way to create a selects real, exactly. So I could turn into system editor producer Lozada to give me a sense of. Let's put the flow together at an have that flow into the editor who could clean it up. Absolutely. There's so many different ways you can say this is beginning of that long project and look when when I first started working with non linear editing. The first thing that I did was I just dumped all that footage in there. And just started cutting it up to get that a rough thing done because I didn't know I was supposed to create ins and name clips and. Do all the things that when we've talked about big editing projects that we do. I should have trained to. Well, unfortunately, it's too late now, but it's so important for us because we want to you know, while Davinci resolve is used by the highest N Hollywood guys. And we've done other amazing things like you'd expect do at new facial recognition for things are really high end. But we also wanted to do this new thing that we felt would be great for now system editors professional editors new editors and something it's never really been tried to industry. So that's really exciting thing that we see with resolve sixteen is being one of our kind of cornerstone products for when you say really hasn't done before. I can't think of a non linear editor that doesn't have the ability to cut clips the difference is it's the ease of use and all show my age and part of our religion core, turn other company that once upon a time made an editing software that was their proprietary software that was beloved because of how easy it was to us. And while it didn't have all of the features of the other main editing software is out there. It was just so beloved because of the ease of use in the stability of it. Especially at the time when and. L E was just coming out. And I do almost hearken back to that. I just want to quickly get in I've gone out and done this to camera wedding shoot. How do I quickly do that kind of multi-candidate quite quickly? And if we have our time code matched up, I can do these almost linear editing moves in very, very quick fashion. And I think once people start working with the product they'll figure out how they wanna use it rather than us going and saying here's how you're going to use the product in case, we've got this new cut page inside resolve sixteen and by the way, congratulations on the release. Thank you solve sixteen. What else is new resolve? So we've done a bunch of things where we improved, of course, performance capabilities of cross fusion and fairlight those platforms continue to be added in there. I mentioned some of the neural intelligence where we too are. Adding in functionality, I mentioned facial recognition software. So being able to say have dumped in four hundred clips, and I've got these ten actors. I want them to be put into folders where they can have the facial recognition say, this is the main actor the side. This is the mom character. And all those things go on using AI to be able to do the ability to masks intelligent masks, want to take out this balloon from the picture, but the pictures panic cross simply mascot out the artificial intelligence now goes fills in all that data behind there. So some really high end features that we've put in addition to just the cut page for the of you. So it's important for us to continue to advance the entire platform across all of its different pages. So that nobody feels like, oh, well, they just focused on editors color. Correct. We wanna make all those advancing together. Now, I would like normally to talk more about the AI part. But I don't want to run out of time. And I know you've also released some new hardware. Tell me about that. Yeah. One of the things is also a little bit different for us is for black. Magic design often. When we talk about our hardware development. We challenge ourselves to make the best thousand dollar camera. How do we make a hyper deck recorder? That's a thousand dollars and a lot of our decisions are about creating price point to help elevate people empower people this year, we actually took a little bit of a different approach. We've had so many customers come and say, can you add this and can you do this? And we said, well, look, why don't we worry about the price point for once? And actually just putting teachers and putting features in and what we realized was we were building this great big product. And by big it's big by black magic standards, some of these five thousand dollar ten thousand dollars products, we've created, but we realized that we were just a hair way from basically creating eight K products, what an eight cave down. So what were you smoking? The thing is this real rationale behind. And you're gonna love it. If you're going to go and create a four EMMY switcher where you're quoting all of these different inputs in there. And you say look, we've got a forty input switcher, and it's at ultra HD. Well, that's really a ten input eight K Switzer. Now, the question is how many questions, and we know that that's not a huge market out there. But but as as we're looking at ourselves saying, we're doing something we've never done. We're almost uncomfortable. We're going to charge you Larry sit down ten thousand dollars for for products. I wanna make sure that I'm giving people the most they can for that ten thousand dollars product. So not only is going to be an HD Switzer in trae. She's gonna be eight case, which are it's going to have all the capabilities of upscaling downscaling. It's going to have all the ability to have these programmable outputs everything that we can do in give people including understanding that not everyone today needs that AK switcher. We will have a long conversation about this in the future. Eight K. I think is a pox on humanity. But, you know, don't mince words, here's Dan for people mind, low the latest lack match that go on the web. They can find us at WWW black magic design dot com and notices actually with no hyphen dot com. Very impressed. Dan may as the president of black match design. The website is black. Magic design all one word black magic designed dot com. And Dan have yourself. Great show. Thanks for joining. Thanks. Every year at the enemy show. You'll find more than a few attendees camping out at the Maxon cinema four d all day why because Maxon hosts presentations by the most respected three d artists and visual effects, motion graphics and design this year. There will be twenty eight unique presentations from twenty one different artists, even if you're not attending, and you can watch all the cinema. Four D presentation streaming live at sea for live dot com. And if you register you'll be entered into a raffle to win from over twenty thousand dollars in prices can't watch live no worries all presentations will be made available on demand on Amax on YouTube channel few weeks after the show mack-san's cinema four D stop by mack-san's booth N A B and south lower sixty three twenty four. Or tune into the livestream at C forty live dot com that seen the number four D live dot com. We're starting with Boris YoM Netscape, he is the founder and president of Boris affects if you've been in the industry at all, you know, how important Boris affects plug ins are to all of the creative work that we do Boris welcome thinker. You're too kind to me. We've been chatting for decades. Well, maybe not decades. But a long time it's good to see back again. It's been it's been a long time. For people that may not have heard of Boris affects. How would you describe your products? Well, you know, mission of delivering or accelerating via fax workflows and creation visual effects in composites and known editing. What software do you work with we walk with platform sessions adobe after premier insurance, obviously avid goes on. So what have you got for the show? All right. So citing boys continue. Three my input all the Klein's, which are which out voters continue develop that votes, many years ago and video being developed south fire which joined family about two years ago that used to I used to be yes and mauka from imaging systems UK company that has Kuzma ward winning tracking and masking software. Okay. So what have you got new continue? All right, so setting with continue. Introducing a new cinema for the integration engine, which allows us to bring high quality cinema for the models into any platform that was support citing after facts in the premier avid resolve any other platform, so the support now we want shooting. Why would we want to do this in cinema? Four D creates the models Symphonia creates the malls. But the file composites putting the models in. Into the scene and using them in evidence stage of post production, every stage of development of media and visual effects is important because cinema for never the last step in that process. It's usually the creative step on. It's usually the rendering step. But then it's composite into the larger large seem. So you're helping us with the composite. So we're not designing anything not signing. Anything basically using the cinema for the models that already created cinema for the cinema for different formats, they marriage the Meyer or the marriage in the studio max, but the key thing is that you won't see this models in the best possible rounding for traipse, including. City flex fractions has to be very compelling. It has to be good looking plus fast. That's the kids always like out of this one out of all the features. Thank kwame. So will we do is optimize the quality optimize the Luke and still provide interactive expedience for composites as. Okay. So that's one feature. Continuum? Have you got a second one or only it's actually I'm going to mention if you from each product, but the list much longer than that. So another feature that focusing here, by the way, where on agile development and release schedule. So will be releasing each product at least twice a year. So so all next the mid tour release for twenty nine products will be around beginning of the summer. So another big part of the continue. Release will be the fill. The development of a partial partial allusion is this famous particle system and motion graphic system more than particle systems can think about it this way, and it was again, eight many many years ago in the same infamous Boris continuum as a matter of fact, and. Have recently in Tony. Have that whole product and put a new interface on improve the quality and improve the speed of rendering of that product. And now toting this product into more of standalone form in other words, you'll be able to render out movie files out of out of that interface. Something that old parts collusion was able to. So it brings back more clothes that will. Lable previously. So that's another buke feature. Also, vastly-improving composites and Chroma keying in continuum continuum because all been very widely used for blue screen work in an avid premiere many other environments, and again making that next improvement nextstep, spill suppression and other tools that will improve that process. So swishing Safar sapphire again gets Eddie booth on the builder. Those of you familiar with Bill. It's a very unique tool. Very unique applications, which is part of south five which essentially gives you note based composites in right within the plug as plug in. So you may be premier you may be an avid you might be in after facts, maybe any environment like this. And then you'll have no based interface to apply different filters. The facts. Again, we're putting a new new user interface on that. Location can like new skin also bringing host video as as moving video. We should never had before and fill the advancing that tool it's powerful to you can save your note composites as single one plug in and expose some of the properties that, you know, you're more interested than into the host user interface. So you kind of blogging creation tool. Plug in plug in. So that's that's that's that's the big thing about south are also sapphire has always been big in like glamour looks interesting in effect. And we're continuing that tradition in South Asia were making a new Potter lacks filter, and that's, you know, very versatile way of like breaking image into strips and combining strips and kind of making more interesting interesting little or transition, but that tool. Obviously, not not not previously. Nothing. That's trying to trying to all this wall user. Hey, guess what else dumb look at this? So that's just recently actually in the previous release make you know, the pixel sort fact, which is another very interesting three stone visual damage visual. We spent all this time pictures, look, right, and you have to tear apart. I blame you for that. In the limited time, we've got left. Vitit quickly about Moga. So mock is you know. You know, my masking raw the scoping and a planet of tracking tool so filled advancing that that process winter more at made snapping. So like actually drawings masters is a lot faster now and. We also tried this area brush other wage major improvements to the user interface. Plus, the performance the host from degration everything else that we do day in day out. So all the products will get better that and these are all releasing probably early summer. Yeah. It's all amid the area's very cool for people. Want more information about the products that Boris has that boss affects has available where do they go on the web WWW fax of dot com piece, still my heart? I would never have guessed that that website is all one word B, O, R, S, FX Boris affects dot com foresee, I'm Nikki is the founder and president Doris f exports. It's been not only fun visiting a love playing with your pluck. It's just really fun to work with. I wish you success here at the show. Thank you very much the same. And welcome back. This is Larry Jordan. We're shifting gears out of audio and into keeping track of what you've got that's becoming harder and harder. Every day. We do more productions Robert Krueger is the managing partner for less pain software and Robert thanks for joining us today. Thanks that. You guys have created a wonderful program called kind. But people may not have heard of what kind of does can you describe it plays? Yeah. One way. How I describe it often is that if you magin someone had designed to like, find windows explorer, exactly targeted at video professionals. It's. A media file browser. That includes all the tools that you need between camera and added, and which were definitely going to talk about today and also distribution delivery. Kinda is more than just simply being able to find a file, however, what more can we do inside at than simply locate a file, I mean, first of all the locating file in a massive folder structure. Production drive is a big deal for a lot of our customers. But then you can do logging. We have an extensive metadata panel that lets you really really quickly add Marcus at meta data on location. So you don't lose that information later in the production chain, you can transport in trans KOTA that includes all the features that that you need, but not the other one. So it's very very easy to use. And lots of lots of other utilities that kill pain points battery naming you have an integration with all of the big. So yeah. So tell me what's new right now where in between releases basically one point six was which just came out a couple of weeks just a couple of weeks ago. So I would like to go back to one point six because there were some some some big ones as well. That was read Ross upon that got a lot of attention and a lot of great feedback. So we with wanting to put that in there for a long time. It's a lot of work. So that's been a big one then offloading. That's check some very fight copy of your camera media, which wasn't natural thing to put into kind on. We've planned to do that much earlier. But. You know, doesn't always work that you want and another thing that was one of my favorites. One point six as meta data export import and merging because lots of times people actually work on different copies of the same footage. Say a production assistant director taking home removable drive with all your all your Russia's and doing some some edits or rather adding meta data, Marcus and everything and then you need to get that meditate back onto the same footage on the production drive, and that's really a three click thing now and you also can determine how to merge meta data. So if people have at it have a meta data in both those places, you don't mess up your valuable method, and what's coming now with one point seven which is actually scheduled for the coming Howard say three to four weeks as we just did one six and now you're doing one seven about two weeks after. It's crazy, but we had to because there are some things that were forced upon us. Luckily, like, for example, the launch of the new frame integration. Just this morning frame. I did a big press release on opening up their API to select partners. And we are on that list. We have really really great contribution workflow, which can be useful for dailies offer, news contributions, or fast, paced, social media, productions from within kind you can preselect footage. You can automatically have transcribed before applaud you can massively reduce your takes by just sending the sop clips, and the codex that you want together with meta data that then ends up as frame all meta data, and it's really smooth. We're going to present it on Wednesday morning on the frame states. So that was big one. Another thing that often because it's not such a sexy feature. But. Really vital that gets overlooked as LTO or rather long term storage archiving. We're partnering with accuser that was announced last week. And we have brought an occupier integration with kind to an AB. So you can have your full workflow from offloading camera media to long term storage from within kind and the east that you know, from using kind of does the arc year. Implementation require both kinda license Anadarko relations or do you talk to kinda without having anarchy license? You definitely need arguer P five archive. That's that's the product name installed because that does have lifting and does the management or the media management for for a longtime storage. So yes, you do need both K. What are the good stuff? Are you thinking about for the future? Yeah. The list wasn't finished yet with one point seven. No. That's what I was saying that for what more right? What's coming in? I'm not asking about one point eight. I'm barely getting one point seven in my mind. What else does you got scheduled? We've got final cut workflow improvements where adding the possibility to get meta data from final final cut back to kind because an ideal world. You would add meditate a logging matter that before the added, but we all know that certainly makes sense that way that during the added more valuable data Marcus and everything gets added, but that ends up in your final cut library, and that could be very useful. If you reviews that footage and other project, so you can now import back into kinda with the same kind of merge import workflow that we already implemented for kind of meta data, and we will add some improvements avid users as well being able to browse. The media files. Folders the those notorious Opie atom files within. We are pretty pretty confident that a lot of us that are you taking advantage of the extensions that final cut provides or the custom panels that can be done inside premier or you just sending files back and forth invisibly in the background. It's the latter. But the the foam has been requested quite a few times. And it's definitely on the road map. But we cannot make any announcement regarding insure you, can you can tell us, and you can tell us the next five version. I mean, no, I know no one's listening right now. It's just you and meek quietly having a conversation the closet who's gonna know. Okay. So I should leave. What is it in the one six release the one that's behind you? When you're on. What is feature that you really like that hasn't gotten a lot of publicity reading the meta data export import because I'm method guy believe in the power of metric on the future of editing and becoming more and more efficient as the effective inefficient use of meta data. We get merit back from community quite a bit. So it's kinda geeky topic. Kinda it really is. Yeah. Yeah. It is. But people are beginning to realize because they run into the problems. And now you've got to build export of merchant denigrated cool for people want more information about and the software that you're creating work that go on the web. The euro's less pain dot software. That's not calm dog software, less pain software. That's all one word L, E, S, P and less pain dot software. Not dot com dot software and Robert Krueger is the managing partner for less pain software, and Robert I wish you great success here to show and thanks for taking time to visit with us today. Thank you so much all my supplier, take care. I want to introduce you to simply workspace powered by store next six. This new storage technology is the answer to how smaller post and in-house creatives can work simultaneously on high resolution content without the hassle of big facility infrastructure. All your content is stored in one place, there's no moving and no copying files. Just plug in your max PC's, Lennox workstations, using thunderbolt cable and get to work. Simply workspace is a professional grade storage network. Starting at ten nine ninety five for twenty four terabyte rape system. Supporting four simultaneous MAC users. 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Join the buzz family and discover what the future of media Holtz while you still have time to plan for it. I look forward to chatting with you each week. From surfers were moving into something totally different. We're going to talk music and Andrew Donohue is the director of marketing for killer tracks Andrew welcome back. Thanks good to see, you know, servers we need to store music somewhere. So that could be a good. That's true. But it's much more. Interesting to listen to music to listen to the home of a server closet. That's very true. It does definitely keep things moving. So tell us about killer tracks. What what are you guys? I mean tracks I would assume as music, and I've already sort of given the cat out of the bag as that, you guys do music, but for people that may not have paid attention. What is killer? Tracks known for killer. Tracks actually thirtieth year. We congratulations. Thank you very much. We license music or film professionals media corporate video, and we own the master and sink. Right. So it's all in one cleared. You don't have to worry about putting it somewhere where shouldn't or having something taken down a few too. So we control the rights forever. So you are always safe don't have to worry about copyright issues. Now what happens if use a killer tracks music, and you guys make great tunes pushed it to YouTube and YouTube says it's copyright violation. How can you help me get that fixed because YouTube is really notorious for being difficult to deal with they really do. And that's one thing that we really lean on our service. We have a great relationship with them. And usually within a few hours, we can get back back up, and it will not take away any views or anything. What do you actually have people that people can talk to? Yes. Yeah. They do we have a they have a department within YouTube that we've worked at killer tracks people that that people that use killer tracks music, I'm not calling it just a phone answering system that nobody ever picks up. No, no, absolutely. No. We have we have people from New York to LA from nine to five thirty pm so up to eight thirty on the east coast and as early as six in the morning. Hard to think about times that are that are. So if you're not say anything new for the show. Yes, actually, we we announced a extension panel for the Dobie premier pro creative cloud video editing platform last year, and we've done some enhancements to it this year. And everybody knows if you do broadcast work, you have to make your sheets and time in and time out of all the music use to report it, and so we've integrated QC solution to our extension for Dobie premier pro. So near done. It's one click of a button, and it exports x amount with all the music used and makes very very huge timesaver two. Gold stars for that that is a huge task that everybody hates to do. Absolutely. So not only can you search music just like you cut on our website within a Dobie premier. You can now just press one button, an expert a cue sheet. And if it's not our music, it still give you the song title, and it's much information as it can extract, and then you can fill it in an excel later on. So it's still a big help. If if it's not we hope it's all our music. But if it's not it's it's so great tool, and it's cost nothing. Very cool. What else you got? We we just released a new music label called Abbey Road masters, and as the name may sound it. It's produced within Abbey Road and a lot of composers and people you can rent studio time and Abbey Road. But this lives at Abbey Road will never be recorded anywhere else. It's original music and each there's five albums out now with more to come this year in each album has a studio one two or three on the bottom to signify which of the iconic studios. It was done in. So the bigger more kessel pieces, obviously our in studio one big giant room. They do a lot of soundtracks. And there's this studio two and three were Pink Floyd and lady Gaga n- many more of recorded Schwab artists. Yes, mall artists in that. That's distributed worldwide in the US and Canada. Killer tracks and the rest of the world is through universal production music, which is the company that we're part of which I get is universal owes to who owns wrecked. Correct. And this is the production music division. That's under Universal Music publishing. There's a lot of music companies that are out there. Yes. And clearly some of them may not do high quality work other Stu why should somebody consider killer tracks, you know, being part of such a group like that we really safety for clients copyright, making sure that we're not using samples that aren't cleared. Anything end to end from where the music ends up to how it's produced is is looked at with a tooth comb. And so you don't have to worry. There's never you're never gonna get in trouble by any copyright laws or some someone's going to say, hey, part of that sample is is mind you have to pay me money. So we really really strongly rest on our laurels that. Once you. License something you're never gonna have any issues with it. That's I can't stress enough. How important that is? Because music is such a minefield, and there's so many different licenses involved that being able to have clear access to the music that you're posting because it'll destroy production. If you don't absolutely and a lot of new filmmakers don't understand that. No, it could cost. I was talking to someone to show and he's like, oh, I use you know, XYZ music and say, why should I use you? And we were talking talking and he's like, oh until then I got a ten thousand dollar lawsuit for using some music from this library that wasn't copyrighted right now. Mike wealth. Number one, right there that won't happen. If so we've you know with all our we're just recovered. So we wanna make clients feel safe because they're usually doing work for another business. And it's you don't wanna risk your own self for client. So it's we let the production companies that they're safe and they can in turn look at their clients. And how much of you music is new. I mean, clearly a lot of your St. you've got a library that you're selling over over. But how much of this stuff? Do you require we release about thirty five albums per month. Thirty five albums among. Yes. More than I think I can listen to all myself if I play them every day at the office. Oh my goodness. It's because we have producing in California. And then with our global universal production music, they produce music and France in Sweden in London. Gera- Germany, so they all produce. A few Alba month the produce a few Melva month. So by the end of the month. It's it's thirty five every month twelve months year. How do you make it possible for us to find music? Everything is available on our website killer tracks dot com, and if you're outside US and Canada, it's universal production music dot com. And for people that want to be what will you've already talked about the website, but fully come back to that. What's feature of killer tracks that people don't know that you're most interested in what catches your eye in clearly people like to music, they like royalty. You know, I really think our music search. If you have a music reference that hit track or something from another music library that you are looking for. You can Email it to our office music. Search killer tracks dot com and during business hours within two three hours. You will get any song that we have close to that in. It's no cost. So it's a great time saver for clients. A lot of people don't know we have it. And is there a starting price for a licensing clip? We've just started some really inexpensive short, social media license. So usually you can things start around ninety nine dollars, and that's license in perpetuity with with. The video that sink to very cool for people to want more information work, and they go on the web killer tracks dot com. And if you're here at anybody, you can come to the winds, we twelve three that website is all one word killer. Tracks K I L E R tracks dot com. Andrew Donohue as director of marketing for Keller tracks Andrew thanks for joining us today. And I wish you a great success to show. Thank you very much. We're big fans of digital production buzz. And it's always great to come say. Hello. Thank you so much. I wanna thank our guests this week, Dan may of black. Magic design floors Netscape Boris affects Robert Krueger with less pain. Softer and Andrew Donohue with killer. Tracks are senior producer is Debbie price. 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The Paul Finebaum Show Hour 3: John Talty & Calls

The Paul Finebaum Show

39:57 min | 7 months ago

The Paul Finebaum Show Hour 3: John Talty & Calls

"Just. Because he can't be in the stadium doesn't mean you can't bring that classic ballpark feeling home with Ballpark buns and Rolls America's favorite Ballpark buns and rolls are always freshly baked, always soft and delicious and never fall apart find them wherever you buy groceries. Cried Passion and pageantry of college. Football leaves here the Paul Finebaum show our three podcast. Then we welcome you back. The second half of this show is live and it's been a pretty crazy. Monday, as you would have expected with so much reaction more guests to come. Let's get back to the calls and Tom, is in North Carolina L. O. Tom. Tom You there. Yes there you can. You hear me. Sure Kim. Thank you. I'm hoping you don't well today I'm sitting here with my foot's propped up a little bit high little surgery on a couple of toes. But I had one concern I didn't know if If, you my of petty. Comments about it. Avid gator fan. And I was watching the game. Saturday. and. I was very disappointed when I saw them and mistaken Neil for knee for the national anthem. And I'm just wondering if anything had been Kinda surprised at the college would allow the students and the coaches do that. Time I did not see that. I, know most colleges do not come out for the national anthem. So I don't know if that was something that the two schools had two teams had discussed where there many players kneeling or all of them I would look. What are the players and the and the coaches? Okay and I'm assuming now that was during the don't they played the national anthem before they play the game they do. But my point being a lot at schools no longer come out for that they they wait back in the in the locker room in. College. Yeah and they know a twenty, seven year vet you know that's A. To Me I. Just didn't feel like it got to the college level I. See in the professional with very disappointed the that also for being disrespectful to the military and the flag when I feel like you should be standing tall and proud of that and you there's other platforms you need to take to talk about your concerns about that but I just was kind of disappointed in and unfortunately I didn't watch the game because of it and I heard that they had a wonderful game and my son and my grandson, all of them are really gator fans. I'm assuming my grandson will be going one day but obvious you know myself it's just me and I didn't know if you might have heard anything. I would check her Let me thank you for the call. I hope hope your your feet get better and thank you for your service to this country. That's quite a contribution twenty, seven years in the military. Logan also in North Carolina good afternoon. Able how'RE YOU DOING Logan. Awesome I was just GonNa say what have agreed we can for political I I was waiting so long for that and I think I watched. Tried to watch a little bit of every game I I, think the radio broadcast with my TV that will be on broadcast also didn't get to see a lot of Tennessee or any the Tennessee game. Ashley. But just a few comments on some of the Games Awfully. Four to look really don't offense you could tell they were in rhythm. There's a lot of sloppy play with most teams. But, when I heard that esteemed real issue that morning I kind of called it upset I mean they lost so many people I mean it's really it's really hard. To lose that many people. And come back and put a team on the field especially especially against an offense like Mike Leeches. Yeah I wasn't even aware that they he a transfer. Alec. Looking at the. get the quarterback power rankings a couple days before this cost. Delta cared on my God. I had no idea and west of all that I'm like. Well, you know they're they. They could be in for some really bad really bad stuff and you know. It was a good game, but you could tell she was they were they just weren't. They just didn't have the players on the field they just they couldn't connect hang with them but talking about Alabama I was impressed with Jones. he looked really good. He got some awesome throw these. and. So I'm pretty confident defense look much better. This year I'm glad Dylan Moses is back I was disappointed to show I'm getting a little more chance to shine understand what they were doing I mean circasian. was calling a lot of run plays. Jump in here quickly to I think it was the Colorado before you. I I'm being told that the schools were not on the field for the National Anthem Logan they may have kneeled before the game. In Unison but I don't think. I don't know many colleges at all who come out for the national anthem. But anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt. No. I have no problem with that fall you know me I have no problem with them voicing their you know their concerns. I don't think it's a big deal I. Don't know why anybody would not watch game because. Some. Young kids wanted to. Yeah. But I just wanted to make sure that was clear. Obviously he he he did not see correctly College I think are probably wise not to be out there it's in. New or not is certainly their right but it. You know the NFL I think probably would have been smarter years ago to to go to college route but but anyway I agree with you bye-bye Young. I. Would've liked to have seen more of him as well. Yeah and I was just a little bit concerned. Paul. Without running inaugural. Great. But you know we. Are second-string in there but we just didn't. We couldn't get that running game going with this backup so I don't know I, mean I don't know if there's going to be more like a a Derrick Henry. Load amused them rotating backs in and out? So I. Didn't know if you had any idea on that or any opinion on you know the way we're well, I would say calm down. That's all I'm gonNA tell you. Okay. Pretty cheap that. You Know Alabama football is great when they're up with thirty five to three and. It ended up giving up some garbage touchdowns and don't cover the spread and fans are worried about the backup running game. Hey, thanks. Appreciate it. Let's. Let's check in with teary who was up next in Florida Hello Terry. Hey Paul. Hope you're well. Thank you. Well bulldog you know. It's always darkest before the. Don. I think it's time for monk into maybe ernest keep and. You can't count us out until we see some of the other quarterbacks and you know I do believe we do play little. Defense and if we can get one of these other quarterbacks that we haven't seen. Some playing time. I know there's not a lot of time to to make it happen but as long as we play some defense, you can't really count him out yet you know what I mean. Until we see the GAIA Terry I think it would be foolish to count anyone out yet and especially with a game of the magnitude that we have Saturday night. Well I mean we play good against Auburn so. but you have to have. A quarterback. On not, fooling myself, I, I remember Daniels. was expected to be the starter but. I'm anxious to talk to my griffin because he was the one who anointed Matha says the the Arab Carson. We can't. Orange when a championship as. I know he's a once in a generation quarterback, but he did win as a freshman. Okay. No, you're right. Thanks for calling I must go to a break I. Thank you. We have. A lot more to do on the program appreciate everybody calling. There's a lot to get. There's a lot to talk about and we only have a limited amount of time, but we still have. Nearly two hours ago John Taught He. Got An opinion on a number of things and we will talk to him next. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. 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Walk me back and it really great to welcome our next guest one of our favorites throughout the entire. Lead up to the college football beginning, and that is he is, of course, chantal from. AOL Dot Com John. It was pretty amazing after all the conversations about should they play? Will they play? How can they possibly play? We got our money's worth on week. One good afternoon. Good afternoon ball absolutely I mean sec delivered an ethic this past weekend show just how much we needed the SEC for the season just in fact that the first couple weeks was good kind of college football back but I don't know if we had that many defining games and I think the SEC delivered a big one and Mississippi State and Lsu, Georgia Arkansas was surprisingly interesting for a while you had vanderbilt Texas am Georgia excuse me Kentucky in Auburn. was another one. So you had a few you really interesting games and I think just showed you just how much the SEC means to college football's a whole that kind of come drove the conversation this weekend. Yeah in I. Know both of us because of the proximity the to the to the SEC and the conversations that we normally do, and we always get accused by those elsewhere but it just felt completely different I mean I know there were some interesting games but. I mean watching Lsu get challenge to come back and then lose. and. With Mike Leach. Story I. Guess I'm my I'll start with where does it all mean because? Mike was expected to have some moments but none quite like fat. Absolutely and I think there's still some skeptics about what Mike Leach is going to be able to do Mississippi state. But I think one way of looking at it is if this is the high point of the Mike Lee Cherif, it's never going to get better than this. It is already in only a single game better than anything Joe Moorhead did in his two years in Starkville and so does not not moorhead who seems like a pretty decent guy but. has already delivered a major moment He's already delivered a bigger moment I think a lot of other newer coaches in se certainly argue that he's had a bigger moment anything Jeremy Pruitt's done at Tennessee to this point. So I think we certainly provided a lot of excitement There's going to be questioned throughout his tenure probably about how that defense holds up on. Whether it's sustainable when you know he doesn't have a quarterback like K J Castillo but at a minimum, he's going to have a phone offense. It's GONNA put up a lot of points and I think it's a nice reprieve from Mississippi, state fans who certainly had been disappointed the last few seasons with what moorhead was able to the talent that Dan Mullen left form. Yeah. And and it's worth remembering moorhead. Originally was not fired because of the bizarre ending a Egbo. Let me ask you about Leach though because it should be pointed out that the University of Tennessee was on the verge of hiring. Mike Leach John Currie had gone all the way to La I think to meet. Leach and when the when the president of the Chancellor I should say found out about it she fired him and that that set up the Phillip Fulmer hiring, which ultimately set up the Jeremy. John Currie. Now is wake forest. Why were so many people skeptical of Hiring Mike? Leach. There's a couple of reasons why and I wrote a story a few years back about how Mike Leach fared in these job interviews and to put you know succinctly usually not very well, he is a quite the character as we all know I, think people like you and me can be a namrd sometimes by his quirks and his stories and tangents and all things like that. We just understand that you know when you're interviewing for some of these jobs. If it's not a kind of a slam dunk behind the scenes already agreed situation you're going in front of provos in deans and people who are academics and. Going on tangents about pirates might be fun to us, but it's not always fun to a university president and there's a lot more than just football, and so he was supposed to have the Maryland job years back and ultimately bombs his a job interview of some of the key Maryland Tennessee had actually interviewed in previous to this most recent time and kind of was little weirded out by some of the things that he does and so I think Starkville is like a perfect place for him I think he might not necessarily fair as well in a bigger scene just because of the uniqueness to what he does. I mean, he almost makes lane kiffin look normal guy. Yeah I mean it's amazing that Dion Sanders might be the least interest to third most interesting person instead of Mississippi. Coach. Wise. Let's let's talk about. Some of the ugly from Saturday I mean I don't think it's ever good idea to write a school off after one weekend but when when you start doing the math. That was a game Edwards Ron could not lose. He's got so many tough games ahead including Alabama and Florida to say nothing of Auburn I mean, what's the shape of this program now after one week? Yeah I think this is looking like a multi loss lsu team. At this point, they had this incredible run last year really just perfect storm in every regard you know Joe Borough and Joe Brady and all the talent on defense and and it's all gone now and so you're seeing a program that you're going to have to rebuild some and I. Think there were some concerns about how both weenie would transition back to being defensive coordinator certainly had a lot of success lsu decade ago but had been in Nebraska coach and they've been a coach Youngstown state and there are questions about how you're gonNA transition back and I have even more questions now. After that performance I don't think he made the adjustments needed to make, and certainly there were shorthanded without Derek Singley but I think that's going to be a situation worth monitoring for out throughout the season as to whether pauline can do what he did kind of during his first tenure. No issue I mean I think miles brandon is pretty obviously not Joe Borough. He's not able to do all the things that he did and so they're going to have to make adjustments but I see you know Alabama's loss right now to me I think Auburn could be a loss. This is probably a three loss team potentially just based on losing that first game. And don't forget as I know you haven't October seventeenth at Florida so What's interesting too I want to talk for a second will muschamp. That was. Just a bizarre game on. Saturday night maybe some had. Had Checked Al by then I don't know why they would have but here's a guy that had its. that. Has a job only because his buyout was really too steep last year isn't it? John? and. We might be having that same conversation at the end of this year in which people think that he should be gone. But ultimately isn't fired is because I buy out is still pretty steep but that was a game that was really right there for South Carolina uh thought they had a good shot to win it ultimately not able to do it, and when you win winnable games like that given the slate they have and the pressure around, it's just gonNA keep ratcheting. Up, I think from US champion, he was one of the guys that are that gave everybody kind of identified as probably the person on the hottest seat heading into the year and you blown opportunities like the one on Saturday I think he's just going to continue that conversation I. Mean it's not time to throw in the towel on him. Yet I think he's well liked their by players and other people, but certainly the the hill a little steeper after losing a game like that. I know you've done a pretty deep dive into the people that run the the southeastern. CONFERENCE DA DIS and I want to jump on that because I I know we had this other Miss Coach gone seemingly at halftime of his first game maybe they waited to the end but generally speaking do you think most? Will will stay the course this year because of the financial ruins of a lot of programs right now, not ruins but just hard times. Yeah I think Paul I think that's expectation to some extent I think certainly when you talk to different agents and search firm consultants and people like that eighties as well. The expectation is that this is going to be a bit quieter of off season but. It's hard to ever think that there's not going to be some changes that we saw. So already make one you know there's always going to be pressure, and so you even with all the things that we know if all these schools going through massive financial deductions in terms of the usual revenue, they have I still wouldn't be shocked. Somebody decides to pull the trigger just because there is going to be a lot of pressure and you're going to want to. Hoping and assuming things are more normal. Next year you're going to want to try to ramp up that revenue as much as possible you're gonna WanNa have a packed stadium and if you're going in kind of Coach, who doesn't inspire anybody at some point it might make sense to make a move and so it's GonNa be be worth watching and the the challenging thing I think to Polish is that. A lot of the things that we normally look to, as reasons why to keep people bowl games and things like that. I mean this year everybody is going to potentially go to a bowl game, and so it's going to be interesting to see what eighties side is tolerable for them to keep a person I decided that they have to make a move. Talking to John Hall T-. John, the crowd or whatever they are but. I'm particularly interested in in what you hear in in some of this has already been announced by various schools but but as you go up and down the top programs in this league, what type of Losses are they going to suffer. In high millions for everybody I think you've seen some of the numbers and projections come out. It could be anywhere from fifty to one, hundred million plus and some schools are better able to kind of with stain such a loss like that. Alabama. Think is going to be okay in the long run. But some of these other athletic department are GonNa hit pretty hard and you're seeing I think you really across all college sports, layoffs, furloughs, freezing positions staff you know pay cuts, people are doing everything. They can do charter survive but I don't think we're out of the storm right now and I think that if this thing continues on and if they're not able to generate the revenue they're used to whether it is fan attendance or other things like that. This could be something that impacts college sports from multiple years and I think you know Athletic Department leaders and other people are already bracing for that. Talking to John Tall t about the financial aspect John it feels like everything is great and It only feels that way for because we've had so many gloomy conversations on this show when it looked like the whole world is coming to a Navajo now almost everyone is back. As we move throughout the season somebody who's just done such a deep dive into this what what would you? What are you keeping your eyes on a as as telltale signs of of the health of of getting this season in Yeah. I think there are a few things that we're paying attention to Paul I think one certainly is just going to be about the players whether they're able to play with players might be held out from Games we've seen some of that are ready. Certainly, you know the same thing applies to coaches. OUT THERE GONNA be some coaches that are going to Miss Games Mike Novellas. One of them you know. Norville coaching Florida state would have made much of a difference in that game given how bad they lost, but Nick Sabin can't coach in a game or two that's going to be a pretty massive deal. So that's something that I think we all are going to be paying attention to. It's just you know how does that impact games and ultimately whether we're able to get in all these games we've already seen a bit of a mess I think to start the season with canceled games. Postponed Games things like that. In the SEC to this point you know perfect weekend everything went well I. Think it showed that their plans to this point made a lot of sense by waiting to when they did but I mean they're still multiple weeks ago nine weeks and then plus an sec championship game, and so I think whether they're able to survive without having to move any games around or having games postponed will be kind of a key marker of success for the season. Yeah and and again, we hate to give them too much good luck after weekend it was remarkable that at least as far as we know virtually nothing. Went wrong I mean some players may have been missed but when you compare that though John to even the ACC the big twelve it's it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. It is. Back to the beginning of conversation, you know it's again you know people I mean because we're so sec based you know people might think that were being homers because we're praising what the ACC has done but I think if you just look at it. Objectively look at what the FCC has done, resolve the other conferences and I think. Has Been The smoothest to this point I. think that Greg Sankey has done a really good job and building a plan and along the people in that office of getting to where they are right now that again, you don't want to proclaim it a complete success because they're stole stolen weeks to go and we look bad looking back in this moment if things go off on the next few weeks but as of right now, it looks really good and again to your point they've had far less issues as of right now than any other conferences and there's a reason for this is the point that they built. Well done well, said, and always great to have you with us John. From Al Dot Com John Thanks, we will talk you very very soon. We really appreciate your time. And we are going to head to the break We've had a busy guest list. We'll get back to your phone calls in a moment at eight, five, five, four, two, seven, two, eight, five. You're listening Paul Finebaum show podcast. This place look hunted. I don't think. So what about those two creepy girls con- stay with us his truly frightening. Fairly Siri Missing Mana Guy Goes, great service with Geico you get twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank. You creepy girls to see our room. We're GONNA. Sleep in the car now. Go We'd switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. GEICO presents monster counseling. Dracula. Tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house I knock knock but ignoring me. What else I look in the Mirror Act. Don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly, can you really expect others to? I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire, but with GYCO, it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. We welcome back great to have everyone here. Fantastic conversation they were John Taty Jamir in. New. Jersey is up next after an engineer. From them. Glad to be back on the show. Thank you best show in America peasants. Sports. Radio show. America the. Fall I talk about At least you fan. I Didn't expect to win. The game we lost so much talent. You have players out players opted out. All it was how he lost the game we gave up. A record. I. Think it was six hundred in twenty, three yards in the air. In it at the point now where we're looking at the All Is the adjustments end the game, the lack of assessments in the game. And I also think that at this point. Will going into Vandy going a Nashville this is a real test for. Four. Doron I think this is. Making or breaking game for the season, they're going into vandy versa berry gritty. Of would appear to be a very greedy fantasy team and and they don't make it out there. I know what to say for the Registration Would agree with you about one thing if you don't make it out of their, the season is over. There's no there's no, there's no. There's no salvaging it when you have Florida and south. Carolina Auburn Alabama. It's. Simply too much but. I. It's a major wake up call and you know fortunately for Lsu the next two weeks or moderately easy. You play the two worst teams in the east versus. What will follow in and after that the schedule self explanatory. Vanderbilt Missouri at Florida South Carolina at Auburn Alabama Arkansas at a and. It's It's critical to turn a game around right now. I. Think John also ended on the head. There's going to be. Going on in the season looking at the relationship with or drawn and Pollini not to. pollini aiming With young. Young past coordinator going into Carolina. It's GonNa be interesting to see how he. Created. Production for this offense. For is you know we got torched? We look bad Britain look like yet cement data at times at times often just wasn't. In think I mean I don't know it's going to be really interesting to see how this season plays in. The morale of the program recruiting and and. God. Well listen Jamir. I would like to continue this conversation maybe after this week. Hey, thank you very much a lot upset fans everywhere. I know this next caller is going to be happy his team showed up. It was a moral victory at Williams Brice Stadium Right Cat Daddy. Such thing of. I'll tell you what was so weird before the game was played our commentators and a lot of as we're saying if we can just show some improvement, we don't care if we win I'm not I'm looking like crazy you play the game to win. But that was a crazy call last cleveland the hit the ball scores leg all the way like that's just you can't go. Not much fault. I mean that wasn't. But Now we gotta go to the wall. I can only hope trump grains. That's what to we get. Well, he's working on A. Long season I say, I. Feel Like Bill Murray in that movie groundhog day wake up every day and allowed to not one. Day. Late Saturday night because. I know how important this team is to you and I don't feel at this year. Cat Daddy I'm sorry. I got to agree with you but I think most campus you'll be around. Eighteen million reasons with the Kobe thing come around losing lower this year university will have the money by all. Anyway, I'd start to go me on facebook. Cat Daddy. I ran into a Carolina guy today and. He offered to put in one hundred bucks. Did you. Yes. Robin the show I'm glad football seasons in. I would hope that I could make fun of terrain him and and and that built and all them but I guess I got just keep them out I. Wait we goes out and other wind. Hey, great to hear from you. Thank you very much Larry everybody showing up at the party now that the season's here Larry is up next. has died by being. Bama looking good Blah I look real good. Thank you man I scream living noggin nouns. Leo's IT I don't. Know Fans and studying. She'd I might go for. Land, that was a good game man I better as you brother but you know when you come up with national championship, you gotta be ready I ain't that right? do you guys coming off a national or are you talking about the? La Shoes Tiger. Now Larry to tell me because I've already talked a legend and a couple other people when that game ended. I know you're you're going light on the bud light. But I. I would imagine you were pretty tempted. Weren't you? All this time goes is getting here. Tighter would that love the is I wouldn't she wasn't showing? No love. Yeah I was getting a little little bit weather with the meals man I was I'm pretty hollered. So you you're your bag drinking again is, is that what you're telling me? You're back drinking bud lights again. Own Land Football I'm back my skin. Just let me Larry. Not to not to break any. Codes here, but you hit some pretty. Serious Heart Surgery did you not? Everything you can help man stares. Past now I'm a little. Click and I just got me one of those what they call them pacemaker. I'm rubbing it now making it warned you rub in what? Omar El Yeah I'm loving it. Wasn't my time baby Larry. Great to have you back among the living hate to run we're up against a break we have to. Take care of this, but we'll be back more of your phone calls. He's rubbing his pacemaker. You'd better than I do that too too hard. We're back with north. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we welcome you back and we are glad you're all here. Marvin is up next in Kentucky Marvin. Hey Paul. Besides Mad Jones and KSL sellers crew, you're the best tanks. Thank you I I'm a big Fan of Matt to as You well. Yes he's going. I let Kentucky Game Saturday. With a touchdown that. I thought. My scored that they didn't give it to them. I think pretty much everybody. Except the official took the CEOS out of Kentucky. And then when the defense can't lay a hand on. The Knicks boy that really hurts. And three turnovers plus the potter trying to run for a first down. I think it was journal or two. So. Four. Turnovers losing about whatever they also. Yeah I'm trying to remember Let's see what the score have been if Kentucky had gone in there at the end of the half. Been, fourteen eight wouldn't it? Fourteen date. I think they went for two on their first touchdown. And Kentucky would they would have been teen eighty at halftime and Kentucky got the ball. begin the second half. And I just think it just. Deflated, them. At that time. and I have to agree with you on that. Thank you very much. Marvyn, really good to hear from you. Jeff is up next in Ohio. How Jeff? What's going on Paul? Jeff we are having a pretty wild show. Yeah I. Wish I could talk about how the Buckeyes did but that's got to be a few weeks down the road. got a month ago Red Dog. Deflecting. Him Up after. Up. His poor performance like I predicted on Friday by those quarterbacks that at Georgia, they didn't want to hear about it but. It was obvious. They were GONNA. Have Poor quarterback play this year Georgia my opinion especially with Mathis kid that your boy grip. My my griffin does not approve this message by the way. Right. But it just kinda funny. Old Red Dog. He likes to deflect criticism when he can but anyway. Hey, I'm glad these boys are back I was begging form to bring their energy but do they do they realize they beat Missouri? Do I need to repeat they beat Missouri I. Mean they're going to come in here and if they need to be Tennessee and Georgia like they should, and then they come in and start really up on their gums and drink bud light I mean. But today be this wound up after beating Missouri. I just think they're wound up period Jeff. And I I mean I mean Alabama looked really good for two and a half quarters. But so what yeah. A. Nonstop. Up here how great he S. HE D- talent level is and all that. But in the kind of funny guy that we love up here, don't get me wrong. The really didn't do a whole lot at Ohio state. Goes Down to the SEC and light up the FCC wins the hype. And then some guy leaves Stanford. And comes in and passes for six hundred yards in the mighty sec in the kind of funny that. Can come from other places and come in and light up yet the what are you gonNa say about that long? These guys act like there's so much talent differential. What are we going to say about that? Well, I, think you know how I feel about that I try to look at it with a more global view than others. Yeah. But you know what? I'm saying some of these guys act like none of these players outside of the deep South can compete and obviously that's not. So it's been proven time and time again especially at the quarterback position. So I, think it's pretty funny but anyway. It was pretty entertaining to see the see some good decent gains this week, and hopefully it'll keep getting better. We'll talk to you fall jeff great to hear from you. We will talk soon about four weeks remaining before your team stars playing judge Chris is up next in North Carolina. Judge. Hey, Paulo. Good good to see you. Good to good to have you back on their Jeff just talked. So let Jeff know that he doesn't need to disrespect lsu in Alabama. lsu probably had the best offensive team ever last year. With Joe Boroughs. And Alabama is is back. And that's where Daboh and Frank Howard and Danny Ford came from, we respect those teams. So tell gap when he beat Clemson Watson can call back. You're right. That is. Clemson is not a name owned state fans want to hear. That's right. So I have I have a question. Well I did call Mississippi State of her Lsu I missed L. Miss over Florida. So you've got that recorded. If you you were on trial for. An assault or something which one of your regular callers would you want to be the jury foreman? Yeah. I'd probably go legend since he has an aversion to anyone He would have an aversion to to to a authoritative figure like a DA or prosecutor. Okay. I gotta fix but I still eat a little bit. I'll give you a call back on that badly the only reason I tell you that judges he he's got he's got a history with the The the judicial system. But who who are you thinking about? Well. Honestly I. I'd have to. It gets down pretty close but. Squirrel that I think I'd go with cat debts. Can't Daddy. Here's what scares me about Daddy judge I've I've I've had a political conversation with him? and. I think he might it depends on the circumstances but I think he's going to side with law enforcement. Okay, well, that's that's. A. Yeah we have to go. He's he's pretty he's pretty conservative. So that's not the guy I. Want My. We'll be right back an hour ago. Long. I think install I found an adequate curse. Its eyes are just very lifelike. Then what does it head keeps spinning? Scary Really scary missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manager vaco policy whenever lehrer. Looks play with a doll. We can just very deep the growth happy gyco wing download the industry-leading GEICO APP today.

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Third Rail: The candidates for Assembly District 57

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Third Rail: The candidates for Assembly District 57

"Piece colourlessness. This is Mark Winston Griffith coming you again from my backyard. and. This is Max Friedman Kinda SORTA social distancing from mark in Mark's backyard. BMC In our citizen journalism arm Brooklyn Deep I've been working on a project to make sure folks in central Brooklyn have the power to take full advantage of the June twenty third primary elections in New York and hold elected officials accountable around social change demands includes a dedicated webpage with candidate, research voter, information, candidate, debates and interviews on our third rail podcast platform with smart activists who can help us better understand. The political moment were in today. Good a Brooklyn Movement Center. Dot Org forward slash elections twenty twenty. On this installment we bring you interviews with the candidates for the fifty Seventh Assembly district in Central Brooklyn conducted by EMC Zone Antonin Pierre. We hope you'll find what you need to make an informed decision, the voting booth or with your absentee ballot. And of course continued to check out your school colors. To see what we're cooking up in the meantime, keep listening. Stay safe and please don't forget to vote on June twenty third. Everyone welcome to Brooklyn third row where we've tackled political and cultural change issues that impact the lives of central tonight. I'm Anthony Pierre Deputy Director of Brooklyn Movement Sensor and your guest host today. I know y'all are usually used to hearing mark, but you know as quarantine social distancing everything's upside down so on today's show. We're digging into these politics to bring you interviews with the two candidates who are running to Democratic candidates for the fifty seven. Assembly district Walter Mosely in Pharisee front so I'm here I with Watson Moseley? Could you introduce yourself? Say Hi, so the people. BMC and Anthony Thank you so much for having me thank you for still moving forward with your programming, even in the midst of this state of emergency during this pandemic which has shut steak down, but that doesn't mean that we don't keep moving forward. In terms of our agenda is a New York state. Assembly Walter. Mosely and represent the fifty seventh assembly district, which represents the neighborhood's cleaned. Neil for green prospect heights enforces a Bedford stuyvesant in portions of Crown Heights, been. Serving this community pretty much. All my life grow- grew up in Crown Heights My Mom and my and my dad were raised in Crown Heights then we moved to to Clinton Hill. Where mother still lives and where I live, and and have opted to represent I have been serving like assistance two thousand thirteen. A sit on several committees, but the more important committees I serve on ours housing education corrections codes which we call that the criminal justice, the facto criminal justice, Committee. And I also chair the career development. subcommittee, which is under the umbrella of the Labor Committee. It's been my honor to not only serve this community, but a community that helped raise me. In the community in which I I raised my children, and so it's a pleasure in the privilege to be here and I look forward talk station. Great thanks so much. You gave so much good intro so for us who have never heard of you? You've told us a little bit about you are, but why should they vote for you? I will I think the one thing I think we want to try to do? We present ourselves that we can present sorta track record which track record. That is I think. Is this proven to come? Come from what we originally ran on so for me. That was the creation of the preservation for the housing on over these years. We've not only been able to pass the most progressive. Package of ten protection laws in tenth and the TPU. Twenty nineteen that had it was a package of laws which strengthen tenants rights in allow for us to preserve their affordable housing that we have on on in our stop, but then also somebody for the House that we were still able to preserve so whether it was a preserving Mitchell Lama housing in the Clinton sex in my district or preserving stabilized housing in the old Crown Heights Jewish hospital facility, which has has over thousands of residents who rely on rice, stabilized units or working diligently on behalf of my Niger residence, making sure that they got the necessary resources, even in the midst of the city's shortcomings, but we also talked about criminal justice reform. Making sure that we did our part to Kinda up Discontinued that that pipeline to a criminal justice facilities upstate. New York making sure that we advocate for. Non Black and Brown. Men and women, even in the midst of stop and Frisk Understanding that we dealt with stop and Frisk my predecessor. Now it was about my time to talk about bail reform talking about parole before talking about elderlaw and in solitary confinement reform so those things coupled with. As a former educator, a third generation educator. Understanding the importance of education. That if we don't make an investment in charge, people are forfeiting our future so obviously advocating for campaign for fiscal equity. In although we have, not. Made good on that promise to adhere to properly funding, our children are particularly public school students. That has unfortunately allowed for me to vote no on on these last few budgets in large part because of that so whether we're talking about education whether he's talking about housing whether talking about criminal justice reform, three of the major things that was a part of my platform that I continue to advocate for and that we've been able to have some significant accomplishments going forward but ultimately making sure that we moved Brooklyn forward while even know behind. Great, thank you, yeah. You had a lot of good notes and we're GONNA dig into some of those issues a little bit later, but I you know all of our lives have been up by Covid nineteen, and if you're a black person in central Brooklyn, you definitely been talking about what it's like for. The disproportionate impacts I central book is to be disproportionately impacted from the the racial disparities and social distancing arrest to the infection rates in how different they are in the district verses outside of the district. So what's your assessment of what is needed with in central Brooklyn as a response to covid nineteen? I think what needs to be done and I started talking about this. When preliminary budget negotiations were happening right before. The April first. Statutory a custody deadline for us to pass on time budget. And then I was talking about the drastic into coney cuts to our healthcare system that was absolutely over the top something that we felt as A. As a as a member of assembly majority in Atlanta, my colleagues felt was too too much. In terms of taking away from the infrastructure that we there are so many people rely upon particularly those who are on Medicaid and Medicare assistant assistant. Patients but what happened with the onslaught of Covet. It only has highlighted that point in only brought to the forefront. And I think what we really need to do is kind of does reevaluate that although we have the one Brooklyn Health Initiative have always tried to get away from brick and mortar of that when times get rough in pandemic to is to hospitals, and to the people who are in those hospitals in thankful that I have the endorsement of Lemon Ninety nine is now. Because we've been partners advocating for one Brooklyn health system while as we consolidate hospitals in terms of their ability to to be efficient, sustainable and providing services that they do it in a coordinated fashion, so no was disconnected. There is no people on institutional operating in separate silos, but they're all connected with the same time understanding that we can't do this without the proper personnel on the properly trained personnel who are in those hospitals to meet out. Situation just like this. So I think going forward. We need to kind of think about. How do we move forward? Be Fried, healthcare, but same time understand it, and we have to kind of reevaluating study. This impact is disproportionate impact that this. Pandemic has had on our community, particularly black and Brown communities throughout the city of New York and throughout cities throughout the state. Because, we're all experiencing the same thing whether you're talking about Albany. Rochester or Buffalo we are Nassau, county we are all experienced. A disproportionate impact of people who are not only being effective before dying, and unfortunately Brooklyn has become as you know the epicenter of a the most deaths. Related to Kovin in the state of New, York in the country, so we are looking at this opportunity, but we also have to be frank and honest with ourselves. In terms of what we need to do to do so going forward. We do hit another pandemic. That we don't find ourselves with the same results. And for folks who may not know knysna that's the new. York, State Nurses Association and Yeah, and I guess too I. Think what is helpful is you have definitely been vocal on these issues and I guess the question as a center Brooklyn I is. How do you see your role in the assembly? In terms of securing those things that we need so going beyond the bully pulpit so in the past you know we've always been frank about what the governor and executive branch. The hospitals like Interfaith Hospital, which is a safety net hospital. Hospitals like woodhall under the safety net hospital has to be a part of the equation has to be part of the solution going forward a we cannot think that and I think we've seen this bear fruit unfortunately. When we started closing of Lich. College Hospital in downtown Brooklyn and the impact that it had on the community. As a whole when people you know, took for granted a hospital that nature in that caliber being eliminated. The vacuum that it left. was immense so hospitals like methodist and other hospitals had to take the brunt of all those other patients in Arizona. It impacted their quality of healthcare that they could give to their to their their their their clients. Our customers are. So to me I think as much as I advocate for Brooklyn Hospital, which is privately one hospital, but yet we do get a disproportionate number of Medicaid Medicare patients we also had to fight for hospitals like interfaith in Woodhall, because ultimately they're all a part of the same network. They all serve the similar communities a similar demographics. Some people have private insurance. Some people don't, but we also. Also ultimately had to talk about. How do we get to a system of universal healthcare? No one healthcare system where we're serving everybody because what we're seeing now in this pandemic is that healthcare related to people's jobs could have a far far more detrimental impact in if we would have a pre existing universal healthcare bill a bill that I I am McColl, prime prime sponsor on. That's being. Advocated for advocated for many years by selling. addict godfried Senator Gustavo Rivera from the Bronx that if we don't see the problem behind having. Our healthcare affiliated with our job status or employment status. Then we're going to be winding up in the same predicament as we have in the past so we have to find the resources. We have to do what we can to raise resources whether it's raising revenue through taxation with. A are millionaires, sex or ultra millionaire billionaire stacks PD tear or or a stock transfer tax. We have to find ways to raise revenue so that we can provide the services that are universally accepted around the world and that we see in other countries. WHO HAVE UNIVERSAL healthcare that they're not in the same predicament. There's no there's a correlation between why we have a hundred thousand over one hundred thousand people dying of this disease. We make almost a third of those. who have lost allies globally. And yet we have to find out. We still have to justify why we still need universal health going forward. Yeah thank you, thanks. Thanks for also parsing out. You know some of the different issues with healthcare. Right how we get health insurance and. Then separately, just naming for folks that and talking about the hospitals, the part of the reason why so much conversation in the state revolves around funding is that hospitals are administrated by the health and hospitals. Corporation which is a city entity, but that the state's role in that really is to draw down funding right so I would love to talk about health all day. Especially, because that's the time that we end but I I think I only have time really for one more. Follow up question here. which is you speak about taxation in that being away? They drown the revenue and Avocados that we need and we. We know the public hospitals are largely used by poor people. Right people who can't afford to go to Brooklyn Hospital, so you. You're talking about taxation in terms of Pieta Tare. for folks to another like if you have a co op that you rent that you don't live in for example, so how do you in terms of taxation and rectifying this issue? Do you feel like? Are you advocating for a? Progressive Tax Policies or an for folks listening progressive tax policies, ideally taxing the rich to provide services for folks who can't afford them. Without question You know there are different ways which we can raise revenue, so we can raise revenue for instance. Through. online gaming right. We can raise revenue if we pass the candidates. regulation taxation like to see our TA. where I sit on a coach, Ed Task Force for the Caucus. Along with price crystal from Buffalo are majority leader, or couple that we could also raise taxes the more traditional way. Through texting those individuals who have disproportionately been able to skirt our laws in skirt, praying a proportionate amount of tax to state coffers. Because of special interest in people who? Are Allowed to be protected, but up to me if we can't raise taxes on the ultra rich during a time like this. This will be kind of. This'll be used against US going forward. For any other times in which we are talking about raising trying to generate revenue through taxation, because during a global pandemic where we we will probably experience a recession for the next year or two where millions of New Yorkers are losing, have lost jobs instill still losing their jobs. And we still still. Trying to determine how we're going to open up as a state that if we can't. If, we can't justify raising taxations crazing revenue now through taxes. Will we ever had this opportunity to do so? so I think we're setting ourselves up. For a big downfall for a huge disappointment. If we don't do this I know that myself along with syllabi. More progressive colleagues have been talking about this for years. And launched by why we voted no on the budget. In part because if we are expect if if everybody. is expected to benefit from the ultimate comeback of the state of New, York. Everybody should be chipping in a proportionate to what they can't ship in but. It's still a conversation. That's only on the rolls. We we know that so many public entities in public jobs will be lost. Again tax taxable revenue that through payroll taxes. That will be loss. So we had to find ways to come up with money to pay for programs that will. Put us in a far better position than when we were before covid nineteen pandemic, because we don't the next pandemic we hit could have far more devastating impact, and we know how devastating. This current pandemic has had not only on our healthcare system in in the health of New Yorkers. You know through our state, but also economy of our of our state. Yet listen! We can't even talk about the next pandemic yet, 'cause we're not three with this one. Let's let's take a slow because folks. Folks are focused going through it right so. So I. Want you mentioned the budget a bunch? When I wanted to talk a little bit about that? You know full disclosure for folks listening Brooklyn Center did work around rolling, back bail forum and actually assembly member in I have been at the same press conference, right? So, that said you voted, voted no on the budget and. Great Soul tellers I mean. Tell us what what that means right because as as an assembly member, this early in in total actually voted to approve that budget. So how do you I? How do you connect your leadership as a Black Assembly member in central Brooklyn to this no vote, and what does that mean for central nights when the budget was ultimately passed way right, and and you know when you you make a no vote. You're making more so a statement. Right and you hope that your statement resonates with your colleagues. So the first time I voted no prior to that, you know there were other members who had been voting now, and usually it'll be like two or three members right two years ago when I voted no on all nine budget resolutions in large part because of. A number of issues, but the main is two issues was camping fiscal equity, which we did not come the come to bear for, and then obviously my stanford support the WPA and Working Family Party and in the. End The trying to codify the ending of fusion boating to public financing, and although I- I wholeheartedly support public financing to couple that with the. A ending a fusion voting and third party ballot lines to me I, thought was unconstitutional affair and the subsequent we. Our lawsuit is being appealed. But I was a proud to be a part of that. So sometimes you make a statement not for the says that you know you're going to be. Victorious but you make a statement to hope bring along so last two years ago. I think it was like eleven or twelve. I stay voting on the budget. This year was a close to thirty. A remember you need the. You know we try to have at least a majority of votes from the Assembly majority. Capacity budget we try not to rely upon Republican votes. So. As you get closer to that number. You tend to realize that your voice in your your voice. Your vote has more weight with each passing cycle, because you've hope to bring on more colleagues of like minds to them be in a position to kind of help shape. What is ultimately going to be? Put in the budget resolutions in this subsequently voted upon so to me. I think that you do this kind of like this plant, a seed and you hope that when betsy blossoms that you're in a position to take advantage of displaying that bet flour, and then ultimately benefiting from. What How Bears Fruit so to me? I think this year. was a good year sense that. We, we had like close I said three members, who voted no and vast majority of them voted no on a number of reasons, but I voted no this year large part because of the rollback of the bail bail reform. In part and you know a bill that we passed less than a year. Then went to affect the less than a lesson several months. We passed last year. And you know special interests in law enforcement was able to you. Know Way in and. Put us in a position where we you know. Roll back on some of the things that we knew if we would vote on, we're going to be scientists people to the death sentence because he knew at that point what was happening with Kobe? And we knew that if if if we roll back, the are going to be some people who go back. Go back into these jails, not come out. And ultimately die in in in for me. People like Michael Tyson, and he got a parole violation, but he was sent in into writers healthy fifty-three-year-old. Contacted covert. And died in jail. not to ever been adjudicated not to ever been able to stand before his peers so you? Do you make these votes on a myriad of reasons, but what you ultimately do you set up a track record of principal positions that people then will take notice so when you do go back to your district, you can look them in the face. Explain why you did. What you did was benefit for their betterment and for the children. Great, thank you, thanks that especially for just making clear. Some of the wild politics of Albany and also you really connected the budget to the stakes right like that the stakes here when we talk about the budget it's. Often it's covered in the media as a political fight, but about life and death right like you're literally talking about freedom. People being free. You're talking about people dying to me, I think. Sometimes, we get to a point where we have so many people with titles. That we forget. The the reason why we're in a position where in now and it's great to have you know a person of color being the leader of the Senate majority is great person of color. Leading the assembly is Great. Have a person WHO's. Who's our attorney general, but that has to translate. Into something that is beneficial to not only people of color now, but people of color going forward. How do we create institutions within institutions so that people who will never meet people who will never know people who will be around before you know after a real long on will benefit from our service here in the state legislature and I. think that you know we. We have to come to grips to that. As many women of color is not about how you what you can attain. Personally professionally, what can you attain for people that you'll never know people? You'll never meet and people who will be around long long after you're gone from this earth and to me i. think the has always been the mantra I've. Had in a continue to have you know coming prior to coming into this district, leaders stay committee man, and now as a city member of New York, state assembly. Because S, You keep your moral compass. That's you keep grounded. That's how you keep routed into the original reason as to why you decided. What you you know you know decided. Gee, when you you know. Said I'm going to run for public office but you know we're not too far from that, but you know we don't want to get too far from it. and I think that we have to have some serious conversations. Know as people of Color. In the state legislature as to what could know, why are we here? Let's listless asked that simple question and we can move from there. Just want a name. you know. Of course we got it. We gotta get a little. You gotta get. We gotta get into like who disagrees with you. And what they disorder? How Right? So a lot of affordable housing activists have not really been in support of this Franklin Avenue high-rise. You have been on the record in support. So If you could just give us a gift. Just like your take your background on. On. This particular development, and like why you're supporting it. That product is still being formalized in terms of height in terms of density. Because, we'd have another project. That's really up to St. the Carmel Realty Project which is across the street from botanical gardens as well where we are a fighting court in terms of determining its density, its size his height. Its impact on the botanical gardens and we know that once this goes through. All the channels. That it will have a in the NFC too many of the advocates in that area it will have a Gimenez impact on what will happen on the Franklin Avenue Crotchet the Franklin Avenue Project I agree upon it in large part. Because often we have many women who are working on these sites so working to build a Brooklyn in New York, But can't afford to live in the same buildings in which they're helping to build, and what this project will allow for is for real affordability on fifty fifty. Basis. For. Working Class men and women, because the trading will be will be taking from their pension funds and will be making a significant investment which ultimately brings down the costs a building. This project would ultimately brings up the level of affordability now there is no whether you took 'em. I H whether you're talking about any other program. That's out there. is No program that. What's my age? Folks who inclusionary housing the city's program? which I believe she needs to be revamped, not scrapped all together because I don't think the Bible Council about that. Yeah! I don't think it brings about the level of Ford ability that people thought it would bring i. in fact, I think it's almost the reverse, but this brings about, but this building will bring about a fifty fifty breakdown in terms of real affordability based upon real Am I am I in that area my. My district for family of four is like forty, one forty, two thousand dollars, and to me. That's what I agree upon now have agreed upon actual a hike. We have not agreed upon the density we've we still are looking at the shadow studies, and so forth I saw, but that's what I agree. Point in that was a part of my platform from the very beginning before I became the sentiment about creating affordable housing. In preserving affordable housing, because we just can't preserve affordable housing, because in lack ourselves out to everything else is going on around us. Because then we wouldn't have been able to renegotiate the terms of the befor union armory. We we we, we wouldn't have been able to negotiate is still are renegotiating the terms of the Pacific part project on the inside of my district, which is the largest investment? The state has made towards a public private. Partnership of this nature who we're talking about building a housing affordable housing so so. I hope that people take into context that you know these are all things that were were dealing with creating affordable housing, preserving affordable housing and advocating public public policy that will that will be the undergird for both entities. So. That's my position. and it is a a growing position in it is ever evolving position, but the basic concepts. Are Those things that are set in stone in that were set in stone, well before I was an assembly member 'cause they were set in stone to me as a child growing up at three zero nine Lafayette Avenue. Mitchell Lama building that houses so many black and Brown people even to this day who are looking for a better life for themselves and for their families. Gray and the end the the building the we're talking about should name is at nine sixty, Franklin Avenue and Your critics would say that maybe not your critics, but people who disagreed with this project. would say that, but it's it's. It's just not enough right like it doesn't. Provide enough affordable housing and It sounds like you know correct me. If I'm wrong in your response, it sounds like what you're saying is like look. There will be some affordable housing also economically. This is bow a bigger picture right. Mrs Isn't this is about like what is the bigger economic picture that Branston neighborhood not just on housing access. Look like I said. There's no other product is doing fifty fifty. At least fifty fifty market, rain versus word about housing, and and no one is a is coming close to that, and this is a project that is being touted by the trade unions. Other members wanted in their district. I know that Pro President of the A remedy as junior is going to have a similar product in his district. They before the sears soon parking lot was turned into a Cova testing site. There were also looking to do A. Project there as well and ultimately I do believe a product like that will be done, but I understand people who live in an area. had a very all the buildings going up. And they see they see the befor union army going up. And Look we able to renegotiate the terms of those those products. Even after we had a multitude Charette's with the community getting what they wanted and understanding that kid who grew up there who had the bowling alley who had to skating ring and have outlets and we've Gone Jen. Almost two generations with children in that area of Crown Heights had nowhere to go. You know had no place to be. To be a child to be. To be a teenager. So we're looking forward to all the benefits that project will will be bringing but ultimately we understand that we can't stick our head in the sand and say I'm not going to deal with with what's going on around in my district. I'm going to deal with just trying to preserve what we have because that's a defeated mentality I'm going to continue to deal with preserving what we have. The we re attended protection unit Of Two thousand nineteen and we're GONNA continue to advocate for other. Laws that will empower ten. It's all throughout the city and the state whether it's good, you bishen or the light, but we're also going to be a part. We're not going to be sent out of conversations. Dealing with housing whether it's for lgbtq seniors. Dealing with housing or identities for our LGBTQ youth, whether is dealing with a building one hundred percent affordable housing attend twenty four full history whether it's building affordable housing for a single single. Mothers at the Bishop Walker sight. There's just. This by interface that way as part of a Brooklyn Initiative, so there are so many. People in so many circumstances that need affordable housing and we need to be a part of that that conversation about how do we build it? And how do we properly publicly funded? whether it's through unions or through the state or through a combination so to me I think that. Two distinct that there's only one way of dealing with affordable housing by just only preserving it I, think is a little bit naive in a little bit narrow minded because when you step into the shoes of being assembly member yet to be an assembly member for your entire district, and understanding the needs and desires of everybody who lives in your district in what they wanna see a going forward. Well, you agree with US member. Not you've heard his position. So make up your own mind. Thanks so much for that. As as a single assembly member representing Central Brooklyn. How do you maintain objectivity in in your position as a member? While also right? So you have this job, you're simply member, but then there's this business of running for office, and it's in the best interest of the assembly speaker. The leader hasty. To get you reelected if you're GONNA agree with him right. So how do you maintain objectively in your job? As an assembly member while being supported by Democratic, assembly will there a number of times which have been at odds with the with the speaker whether suing him as a party plaintiff for on behalf of WFP suing him and the majority of the leader of the Senate as well as the governor, getting an ear full for that. Because, we really do a sitting member in assembly sues. It's only right whether it's voting. No on on you out for that. But we also need. To be. Voting no on the budget, and like you said like we said before vast majority members still just go along to get along. But voting on a budget you know is really a position of saying no to the leadership's by no conclusion as to where the budget ultimately you know, stood and eventually was voted upon. So, there have been a number of examples where I've been on opposing sides of the speaker that are Larry. Great well. Thank you so very much for just taking some time to talk broader. Central Brooklyn constituency much less folks are right so thanks so much for listening and make sure you listen up for our next interview, which is going to be with fair forest. WHO's also running in the fifty? Seventh Assembly district. So, we're here today with Paris Boris who's running for the fifty seventh assembly district seat Farah Hi Deneen. How are you? I, mean you know? How you doing. Pandemic to. Right cool, cool cool so still for voters. We've never heard of you. Who Are you? And why should they vote for you? Okay so my name is Farris who fought force. I am thirty one years old I was born in raised here in Brooklyn. And in Crown Heights and actually still lives in the same apartment love with who have been come from Haitian American spirits. I am a nurse and activists. I am really deeply committed to my community. I worked as an educator before I became a nurse the. Uber driver. Someone should vote for me because I really stand for the. Issues that most. People who lived in the district are facing. I stand for universal control. I am fighting for universal health. For everyone in New York state and fighting for a green new deal, because climate change an has an health crisis. Currently facing right now. Thank you. So as we know, central Brooklyn has been disproportionately affected by covid nineteen. So, what's your assessment of what is needed right now in this moment? As a nurse I need to tell everyone first of all. Make sure you're still washing your hands socially distancing and remaining. Healthy. I'm. We must make sure that healthcare workers are getting the resources that they need especially personal protection, suggest gloves and masks. We must take every step to make sure that they're safe that that they can do. Their jobs need been that means taking over on cooperative companies right? No patient should have to pay a red cent for corona treatment, because health care is a human right. So that's why I'm really fighting for New, York, Health Act. On this is also an economic crisis as a socialist I know our economy is built on our society for the working. In a stimulus for the for the rich people are laid off in the working class are still struggling more than ever to get back. We need a full suspension on all paints period because housing is a human rights in a long-term, we really need to reject economic stimulus for the rich. Now is the time to build this Asai that works for everyone. Now is the time to fully fund are hostile. Now is the time to make free healthcare, a human rightful, and now is the time for Universal Wreck Control I've put out a platform detailing. Detailing more of what needs to be done and Definitely it comes from the people. This will likely be the greatest challenge of our society Greatest challenged our society has faced. Since the Great Depression, it will not be easy but we can do it if we fight any organized together. Thank you. So so we know that you support the near cal faxed with. It's creating a single payer system in New York, state and Walter Mosely, also in favor of that, so tell us the difference between you all support on health. As a nurse, I? am very proud of my colleagues and the work that we've been doing especially during this crisis and. My experience working both in healthcare and with housing has just taught me that it isn't simply enough to just sign onto a bill and say that you're supportive of it. For us to really. Push for near Earth Act. We need all. Parties onboard, and that means that we really need to amass a coalition behind the issue of a single payer health system. because. There's a lot of pushback from different sectors ray, but it's not simply just enough to sign on. You need to be out there. Champing 'cause organizing coalitions, making sure that everybody is educated on the importance of a single payer insurance company, and that is the difference between me and Walter I. Go out actually organized. I lobby as a nurse. This is what I see is the difference between a healthy patient at an unhealthy? Unhealthy patient their ability to actually access quality healthcare so I definitely think that there was a lot of strides right? You know it's great that year, so you support the bill, but are you a fighter for the bill that the next step in terms of how the New York Health Act is passed will be really depend on how strongly you advocate, and you push for the bill both into district and in Albany. Thank you and another question is on housing so because you tell us a little bit about your housing vision for the district, and we know that you've also said that your opponent is absent housing, so if you could also speak to what what that even means for him to be absent on housing in terms of your vision for the district. Yes so I can talk. Definitely win. Last June when the housing bills were finally past, eight out of the nine bills passed that was a combination of efforts across New York City and across the state. And I had joined tenants movement about three years before in when we went to Albany, we We were planning to get arrested for housing now. What we weren't prepared for was the violence that. Ensued that day that day, I remember standing outside the assembly. All and being kicked in the back, being pushed around, and there was only one state legislator was standing with us, and it was not Mr Moseley. Our politics are issues are not a spectator sport, so if it just doesn't make sense to stand by, and just watch, the very people who are from your district fighting for housing, which is a basic human right and so. My Vision Right for the community is to have affordable, truly affordable housing housing that is designed. To keep people in the district we have seen rapid rates of gentrification occur within the last eight years, and that's because we've had an incumbent. That's not been active on the issues. so clearly the difference between me and. My incumbent is that e signs on so bill I get arrested for housing stronger housing rent laws. We need to pass finally the good. Causey victim bill that would extend. Protections to market on tenants and Then I you know inferred along I. Really would like to see that housing is actually written into our state. As a human right right so No more we have housing that's for profit, but rather to house human beings. In a humane way. Awesome, while we definitely believe in being humane so I actually, so thank you for clarifying your housing position, and then finally actually wanted to. Ask a question in terms of a statement that you made once. Folks have heard from you saying that the essay is not a party gesture fires right so could you find listeners here? Just clarified like what is what is the Diaz a vision for Central Brooklyn. And how do you stay into that? Yes I do. Push back against that statement. That say is a party of Ginger fires. From my experience, both as a member of the end being part of coalitions that you makes a part of I have seen that. As really just an ECLECTIC group of. People both. Diverse in Age and Nationality but the main thing that they that everyone agrees on is that the working people have been? Pushed back. Pushed against for too long, and that it is time for them to really step up and control the means of production in our society. So what does that mean is that there are some in equivocal human rights that we should have in that? We should depend on to meet our basic needs. Housing Healthcare Economic Racial Justice. That's what we fight for next what we stand for. The last part of the question questions the last question. Yeah no problem. Just how does? How do you fit into the essays vision for a Central Brooklyn as a person who's? Agenda Fire right as a person who's been saying apartment your whole life. How do you fit into that? So definitely I think especially through the my campaign is just been very clear with the support everyone in the essay end in becoming need that it is time that we had a working class woman, a black woman, an immigrant a woman of imigrants instead I think that having DJ backing up me and other. Candidates of color just really solidifies the fact that What we're fighting for as basic human rights, and that when as socialist when we talk about the upliftment of our communities we have to. Really focus on the uplifted of our most vulnerable communities are black and Brown communities are. people who are low economic. Status so it just makes sense to have a candidate in support a candidate that fits all those criterias. Great, thank you so much I mean it's hard to not be excited when you talk about above lack woman, you know what I'm saying so great. Yeah, thank you so much fair as such a joy to talk to you to hear about your vision for a central Brooklyn, and while you're running and folks if you're listening with witnesses, Brooklyn Deep Third Rail, and we're GONNA be signing off with our candidate for a second candidate for the fifty seventh assembly district Pharisee front florist bag so much for. Change.

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#834 RHOC: Enema of the State

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How are you? Still nursing a hangover from Seattle that was just a crazy fun time that weekend on its Tuesday. And I'm still until coming back to life. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Yeah. That was a really fun weekend. So you guys are so lucky because we don't have a ton of life shows to show because they also that said thank you for everybody. Who about all those tickets? We're gonna be going to, you know, ashville Charleston, Dallas the crappy awards here in LA. So we will have new tickets on sale for marching on next. Ring. Woolen outs him as they come out. Hopefully that will be soon because like honestly, like we're dying to know where we're going next. We don't we have no idea. Yeah. And then tonight, I'm going to be doing a TV party watch party thing. I'm just gonna I'm gonna watch below deck tonight. It's going to be about six PM Pacific so fire up your TV party apps. And join me also make sure you you're signed up on Petri all because this is going to be exclusive. 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And so I have to say, thank you. Thank you very much for that. Those were delicious it pulled that one of my temporary, crowns, and I still dating. What little monster? Luckily, luckily, going to the dentist today fix that. You'll be like milk bar, and she'll be like, okay. I get it. Well, they better get some stronger glue. I'm telling because I have two crowns going in today. And they better nail those in a gay because I'm violent eater. You really don't realize how violently until you get temporary cramp in even that. Even a salad. You know, I had cheese toward Leany the other day. I was like what mushy food can I get? So I went back rub hub and was looking for mushy, food and even cheese tortellini. It's like the mushy is fucking thing. You can have people. Okay. I almost wanted. My crown. Oh, we'll 'cause it stickies. So it's not sticky. Like, you're gonna create section. I personally I hurt my today. Eating special. K I'm like, here's the thing special Kate, I love special k I actually really do. And it's just, you know, it's basically like rice pops and you just eat them in their nice. But every now, and then there's like one rice pop that was overly puffed, and it's like hard and you buy like Al and like why special gay why are you doing that? Why do you have these inconsistent flakes every like twelve spoonfuls? It's discovered a new conspiracy. And it is the food industry. Must be connected to the dental industry because they want us to get in there. Like this droop. Offals? We thus droop. Offals? My teeth will hurt Wally destroy fall. Yeah. Like, it's like the food is built to hurt your teeth. So that you keep these people in business like I'm paying for Persian college for this kid this. I know I think the Dutch really they they saw this as a potential revenue stream a few hundred years ago. And like, you know, what let's get this. Droop. Apple game going and then dentistry is going to catch up and soon we're all going to cash in my God. I wonder if they're a ton of rich Dutch dentists I wanna find because I'm convinced. Yeah. But last night, I really wanted pizza, and there's this place that makes pizza that tastes like really cheap. Like, Chucky cheese kids. It's kind of pizza you have when you're it's not great. But I still love it. I don't know why rest is to which one was it which place pizza. AO key, Steve AO, keys pizza place. We never I never put to two together and delivery driver was like, oh, it's a Steve AO keys pizza that. And I was like, thanks. That's value. Add explains why I like it. It's totally donor pizza. You know, it's like remember Chucky cheese ants. You can also order rocky road on the side of a win. While you were ordering from there. I was ordering from the Swedish house mafia, Meatball company. So we have basically the same kind of night. House orders taco stand. Yeah. TSA who I liked that? It's like a fiesta with cake guys. Guess what we're not gonna do. Talk about our food orders all night long K because we very important episode of voice county, and it was called friends and Animas. Yeah. So basically the episode opens up with with Kelly going over to Gina's house to help her pack and bring stuff over the to the Cossiga and Gina's house has become something of a passenger in for us because of all the insane Gretchen Rossi decor. That's in their ak-, a bargain bin junk from Marshall's and Stein mart. And I already just from the exterior shot. I was like, wow. There's a lot going on here. I don't know if you notice this Ronnie there were two pink reads on the door. There is a pink read on a window. And then there was a giant green wreath on a different window. And this was like in the summer well sometime. You just need to get a job. Because if you don't have a job, you go to big lots or Michael's or hobby lobby. You know, whatever's rancher town, which is county. So they've got all of those things. Yeah. And you just start you start reading up everything. Yeah. Because like, here's the thing. Like, all right fine. You wanna have a wreath for every season fine. I'm not gonna roll my eyes too much at you. But fine, but you don't need to have to pink reads on your front door. And you don't need to have like like like supporting reads on like different windows on the exterior of your house in in the middle of may. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's too much some holidays one breathe Christmas every team. So then we go inside the house and we've observed Gina's bedroom before, but I just wanna say there were I counted as far as I could see according to the naked eye five furry pillows, two different throw blankets on the bed. There was that trae which I'm not even going to discuss the trae again and then on the floor. There was like a furry rug that was on top of another rug that was on top of the carpet. Three layers of rug. That's a lot of Marshall's home a lot that a lot. Yeah. That's a lot of padding. Yeah. Of Kelly comes over to help her pack, and you know, Kelly's very supportive. She's just like. She's G is very supportive. Maybe she was just like reading assign. Maybe there's a sign up that said cute, you know, because I definitely saw signed by the door that's had gather. I saw a sign that said New York I saw sign that said, welcome. And then there was like a there was like a little sant- as the little hooks that you hang like your keys on and she hung up a sign that said wonder. And then was like a little sign hidden there that said wish you're just putting words up. Now Kelly's wonder we kitchen. Thanks, kelli. Thanks for coming over net within math gonna be in this room. Because I thought it might be better for him to have a different room than me because we're going to get it to voice, and it's really crazy. It's making me Statham just realize I'm going to be alone. Like never going to get into the birthday caught from bad again. I can't take any more of you. I like you. You're very cute. You seem like a very nice girl. If you talk about your fucking husband one more time. Okay. Yeah. Gambling. I'm gonna go out your front door, burn your reads gather. What was the thing in Jamaica? She said was always earn. My what does she do? This one thing gets sort of thing we'd go into gift shop and big at pencils. What was the thing that she said with their thing was it a bikini now that I? Picking up bathing suits and remind the raw Mike domini bikinis with these bikinis. And like I would tactic caney now. I'm so sad. Heck in a bikini with that. Yeah. I feel like Gina is quietly. The saddest person on Bravo. Like, you cannot buy all that decor and be a happy person. This is someone who is trying to find happiness by putting little artisanal EROs around our house, you know, and. Roosters and furry things there's been a lot of speculation on the internet like obviously baths cheating with somebody. She doesn't even know where his apartment is LA. Okay. So obviously something fishy is going on. But you know, what? Sometimes things are simple in the actors right in front of you three marshals rugs on top of each other to know. Yeah. It's really like so simple. Like, I don't wanna blame the victim. But you know, who is the victim here. Yeah. And if you look at their bed the bed their bedroom. Honestly, like, you know, I'm not saying like, listen that is a really really girly bedroom. Okay. And like, you know, me I'm always talking about like, oh, but don't like don't conform to traditional gender binary or whatever. This is the problem society. Chris toxic masculinity. That early asked bedroom and that is a bedroom for like a twenty two year old girl. You know, it's like curly Q white poster bed frame like jazzy pillows furry pillows, pinks purples whites. It's just like super super girly. And like, honestly, I just can't imagine someone like Matt we know very little of except that his Long Island. I just can't imagine a bro from Long Island enjoying coming home to that bedroom. And on top of that there are two rugs on top of the carpet. Yeah. Well, this has been a really fun episode talking about genus house by everybody thinks. Marshal's take them. Yeah. So Kelly's like, Gino, which is hilarious coming from her. Yeah. She finally the picture of math. Then Gino, why are you divorcing? That will take your leftovers. So then we go over to Vicki TASR. We're tamra shows up Steve answers the door and and add like timbers like expecting Steve. She's like, oh, it was not expecting a sudden burst of blandness. Okay. I just Vic mashed potatoes have up front does. Bash color palette has just opened the door. I didn't know your staff, I would've brought some Sabbath fist since some something. Fell like can't have coffee pass five AM or I'm up ask Matlock repeats. Is over tam-tam mind and have the need a band aid for anything. All right. Here's an aspirin. Just in case. All right. I'm gonna go check out the latest episode diagnosis murder. Anyone needs me? I'm watching ion got diagnosed better doctor. God. So so Timur goes and finds Vicky in like a sitting room she just sitting over their head fully wrapped like in a Donut with a strap across forehead. She just sitting there is wide frozen. How you Evan? I pack up to drop a bad bet. Today's about Thac Beck's Gina that got a cough of chevrons. And she said that genus off such a bad things about me and to mecca. Hello. Anybody talking about Jamaica wherever Jamaica set of. Yeah. Yes. Finish desserts. Cantey UK Red Stripe with that. I don't even know what that is. Stephen like that. What is that Jamaica so much debt that his other said if you take it, but I'd say it public TV people chev- it Bedewir is that better the ill. She just has illnesses that meant that. She's not mentally. So again tamra clearly has a grudge, and it's just very important for me to remind everyone the tamra spent all of Jamaica talking shit about Shannon, and Gina finally, then tell Shannon, by the way, your friends were saying this stuff about you. Shannon, calls tamarins way Gina has been saying that you're terrible friends to me and now tambor's Matt Gina and this whole ridiculous has happened. All because of the way tamra acted originally. I know so hard to follow because genus should never said anything. No. So gene as your own damn. She's a dumb dumb, then shamming, wait. So then tamra started it right because timbre was saying all this nasty stuff. But then Shannon, really started because this won't being an asshole. So let's not you know. You know, I love to just put everything in tamra slap. And this one is heavily tamra snap a chance is acting like a damn wackadoo. She she really is. I mean, she she is acting like a wackadoo, and she wasn't being good friend tamra. But it was squashed and tamra still continue to talk shit. So. Tamara's fall. So fakes that just the truth Janus 'cause I'm FEC death back. I'm like, oh, you are the worst. You were the worst. And then my evaluation Swiss right back. I went. Yeah. Back to Tampa origin stories. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I liked hammer saying that she doesn't do fake while she simultaneously compares her plastic surgery, two biggies. So so Gina. Meanwhile, Gene, Kelly are talking about the big fight and everything, and I don't know why up on it. Or should I never said anything about anyone being a bad friend? I was just saying I'm seeing you know, like she was worried about she might lose Kostya for kids. I'm saying that things are being thing. Trying to be a good friend. I like she's like she called me back up. Those stairs. It does sound like a horn. Maybe. What you mind coming back up here up here. So it went up the stairs. And I saw Shannon looking at the nearer at the window, and I went up to her. And I said, he, Shannon. I'm here. I'm going to tell you about what people are saying walk up to and I turn around us the skeleton. Whoa surgery easy. For. Terrifying. Finger scary music. Okay. I was I thought it was like Ramona laughing in the background veering into Ramona voice, our movie soundtrack so horror movie score. So I have custody of my children. I don't want their girl band to have to break up. If I lose weight. What they're saying things saying saying and Kelly's eating this popsicle with her south, and it's hilarious. It looks like she's putting a tiny. I don't know like personal and her mouth. Yes. Just wrap around this popsicle Obu. Popsicle come from. Anyway, weren't they moving into a Cossiga Gina just have popsicles in our Cossiga because I you. Thank you. Yeah. You know, she's like a fought cicle. They were in the checkout line Ross. What is this tastes like strawberry ass? I also have some artisanal popcorn. Five-month-old popcorn covered in corn syrup girl eaten you. I remember you. Yeah. Like every. Anytime that Marshall's wants to turn over their impulse up and post purchase. I'll they pretty much send like a little flyer to Gina be like news new items in stock like okay here. She comes. She's like jetting in this conversation was funny. So they're in the car, and she's like, I didn't even say anybody was a bad friend and Kelly. So she was reading, you know, not threatening just making me feel bad. So she was manipulating you. Well, you know, I guess kinda manipulating so she was murdering. More more manipulations Jonah's bills. You say diagnosis murder, I figured L. So, and then I also liked how I think at this point Gina was talking about the thing at that deck, or maybe it was tamra who knows? But apparently interpreted this thing where she was like, I don't to talk about Shannon, Shannon. Now. Shannon, my best friend, which is funny because that's all she's been doing for the past several episodes. So gene is fine. You don't wanna talk about Shannon. We talk about my birthday party on returning dirty four and every year, we sequence on my birthday, and they just cut the Tamraz daring Gina saying, this angriest media evil is like a hedge batch. I can't play to talk about sequence when we should be talking about Shannon's. Every my birthday, I have little gerbils and eat them back every my, but I have lots of hot attacks at okay, we have nothing, but Sachsen Saxons. Fucking fucking at all the. Season Salva whether side of sex dressing, so back to tamra tamarin tamra and just made her so classy, it's not a pretty name tamra Chamran. That's nice. Yeah. So tamra and Vicky are back of on the other cats and Vicky Tam it's at I. Affect Comey Esat of it. And she says she were that to shout out of a pen of consent. That is best shit. Vicki's bullshit. Yes. Really is. Stupid. So so the so basically Vicky is gonna have a party with Shannon, and instead of going to Gina's birthday party, and Tim, well, I wanna come to. So we can see where this is headed. There's going to be initial. So then also Timur brings up like, by the way. Did you know that I'm less having Cup ratings? Yeah. She's going to be looking at is John get it. He's got a big bag, dick. And I now have second time. I measure it with my giants. Got. Do though I've noticed I had to go to Jesus Christ. Get kept kept with me to help each other that Christian genyk Turkish coffee. I mean, not after PM steals. Gene, Kelly or moving into the casino. Whoa. Gather ever been on your own before? No, it's hard. It's the. And she starts all that bullshit again. Head. She's got a sign that says she leaves a little sparkle wherever she goes. Is that what we're calling road is now sparkling lamb right this sign an Oprah book from back in the day. Yeah. And I noticed also by the way like now that she has her own Cossiga. She has just basically like zoo of pillows is just so many pillows on these couches says Hello. Pill says alot. How I get the. Makes me feel like someone's in the casino with me. Hello. It's just like when Matt's home. That's why I have a pill. It says when Mets home. So she goes into her whole thing. She's like be still we x is going to be the first birthday ever. He added with at doesn't get me a card is he gonna be Krispies. We just give me a call. Gillies? Maybe I'll get you a word Kelly not equipped for these scenes. I know it's like a nice, supportive friend, and she assisted there. She is a good sport. Though. She says there listen Geeta every fucking time. I know and she seemed to do it like happily like she's not getting annoyed way. Tamraz Kelly's been on Gina duty all season long chip to stay with her in Jamaica. She's the one who I go with her Shannon's plays like she's she's had a jet to go to the damn sequin birthday party later this episode. So she actually smiles and has fun with them. It's not like the other three witches where everybody has to like really try and make an effort to like them and be friends with. Yeah. Yeah. So then we go over to Emily's house where Emily and her sister in law Charene are putting glasses and food on stuff on a table and getting ready for hurt her thing. And then we see Shannon is at the doctor getting a checkup on her eyes. She's like, I can't quite move. My eyes. They seem to be locked into place. I seem to be focused on one thing. And that's my penis. So happy have full range movement. And he's like, well, just roll your eyes back a little she's like, I know some people I'd like to Rome is that Dr not. And. Good now, when I roll my eyes back does that count as exercise 'cause I'd like to say that I am workout today. Then over with Kellyanne show league killers practicing fear play like, yes, mother practice five hours today and yesterday and the day before and I'm like, whoa. That's a lot for the chorus of Oliver. That's a lot. It's a lot of practice. I'm worried to see this play. So belly says might help it. Okay. Mama to PG show. You shouldn't show your boobs everywhere. Mom. It's oliver. You should be dressed like a street urchin like the rest of us. Do I look like a Hooker? Yes. I did it right? Which is totally fine. Isn't Nancy a Hooker and all of her. I think I don't know. I don't know. I've never seen Oliver. Well, same on you. I never seen it sought so Maga go. I don't even remember if Nancy's a Hooker. So there you go everybody. Usually are you going to be at cantered dog mother Oliver not Oliver and company. If I could sit through another movie with you wanna camel this Lawrence of Livia. Rave yards of Arabia. We're like come up with that Lord of lords of Livia Livy eight. But to stop going to be are you going to be like hanging out with that that sailor license spinach? Mom, that's all of oil. So good for you. It's much better than butter. Mom. I'm writing a musical called coconut oil. Yeah. Going paleo. So then Emily is still getting ready, and she's like running time to get this party together with these kids are so needy. Oh, that's good. You should have three more immediately. Exactly. And then know that she does nothing to tend to kids. So which is so mean because it's like the camera cut away. But I'm like basing all our parenting on the pre cut. I'm like, well, if the kids need stuff, you should maybe do things for the kids Emily alert September comes over. And now we're like it's now like started like Turkish coveting, which I think we I saw on real housewives of New York. When a Turkish Cup was like Canada you with run a marathon. And on many counters so serving is basically explaining Cup reading tamra, and I fully expected tamra was gonna do that thing where when she drank a Turkish coffee. She like. I mean, I I eat a lot of teams. So I can eat nasty things. But this is the worst. But I was surprised you didn't. We'll she did do very tamra thing. She has the express. Yeah. Express. Now, the best part of all this was tamra. Then she tells us, you know, I don't know if I believe in psychics, I think it's just fun gams. And then the producers show tamra bring around her a quote, unquote, psychic in back in two thousand fifteen and he's like guys, I'm not not getting a psychic by about Brooks having cancer. I don't think he has it. Yeah. That's what I'm getting Timberlake. That means he doesn't have that gay sex the massage and happen to be my best fans, but vanden seconds. Yeah. Second. That was hilarious. That was basically producers calling out to say, basically, she wanted to call it Vicky all the time, but she wanted to sort of make it seem like it came from a psychic. So y'all use such a classic housewives and move to just bring a psychic to say what you want to say. And does it to only have the exact same thing happen? We're like yours pertinent information Linney so Jeanette, but I just loved at the editor's every time tamra says anything Temer Celaya batch. And here's why like National Geographic footage of tamra eating the head off of. Baby possum or whatever. So the girls all start coming over and tamra super cold like she won't speak to Gina. She's just like twirling her straw weave in her hair giving her the top of the trash can look like. Yeah. I wrote on cold hair brushing, just like, I'm so angry. I'm just going to stroke, my hair, every Schroeck. You'll feel my claws going down your back Lantis Val. It's very cheap. We it's like just sounds like when you scrunch up ziplock probably elevated. Imagine. When you hit the tail on my little pony. Nice. So Kelly arrives at the play. And like, oh my God looking bike with the ladies. Volunteer to make buttons for people like made to order, but. By the way. Can we do that? We probably do that for shows. How do we get one of those machines could take pictures and take make buns for everyone made to order prep? It's. So. Yeah. So he's there, and he's like your hair Kelly. It's really good. You know, you your hair is beautiful. You should really get your get out of your face. You should really like like you show your face your face. It's beautiful your hair to the side going gone. Your. Just like some heater camp loser. Sorry, everyone here. Like, I didn't ask for your pin? -pinion too. Because that means they're flirting when she starts gutter laughing like that it's time for commercial. 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Like, grandma, grandma. Just like I said pocketbook. I'm from New York is called a pocket book as a pocketbook. It's a pocket book. It's. Of hockey fight about at the pocket book book. It's what it is the pocketbooks. And then that then that's like the biggest shade ever. Then they stare at each other. I can't believe she's getting mad at me pocketbook. The equivalent of like frost Nixon for arch town. Ooh. So so so Gina now, here's where Gina's really dumb. So she sitting there. Now, it's been like the fall out of this whole situation where she told Shannon. What Tim was saying the Channon toll tamra and now tempers mad at Gina Gina sits there and goes, you know, what at this point. I'm just oldest Shannon. You know, just over her. I'm over her and Thomas just sitting there and her ankles like rotating circles like every rotation is just like a crank pulling in the fuel that she's gonna go then deliver to Shannon. It's also got a make you wonder if that's the ankle, you know, it's like, oh, your ankle seems okay right now, angry true too angry because she, you know, she called me up dates talking back his being taken away Nash, she's making about whether or not I said Jewish shitty frame and the things I never said you've never been shitty friend, and I'll say that right now. And so that kinda get. Tamra where she kinda purses her lips with her mouth wide open. And it's like, okay. Well, here's where we'll do. Because like this girl, I know is through blue and over lies, but Shannon, you know, takes tiny bits of info, spins it, so my money's all this horse. All right. That's what vote for so. I'm like you to are such idiots temperature is going to take this and put it in the worst context ever and delivered to Shannon. And it's going to be the fact is that Emily said this right on the heels of saying will I took to shun and to see if she was feeling better. And she wrote me back, and it wasn't expecting it. So I feel like that's a step in the right direction star. I with her. Well, good luck with that. Because tambor's about destroy all of that. And you did it to yourself. Yes. And then Timothy Anka. What happened? Why why by the vet again because you started at tamra? So over at the theater, Kelly pitzer arm around Michael to watch Jolie and Chilean Herwig, really like so cute. I know I was so mad that probably did not get the rights to Oliver. Why why can't you fork over two hundred dollars that we could see some of this production? It's not fair as long as he needs. I don't know. I don't love all over. But I love that song as long as he needs me. My god. I'll still sing it drunk when I'm crying sometimes just to Saab on a piano smokey. It's less about wanting to hear the actual production of Oliver. It's more about wanting to take in a like tween community theater production. You know, that's like one of my favorite things. Just watch watch that shit. Just reminds me of my youth. Not me. I mean, don't you feel like a grief? Here at the children's production of. To me. I want to sit on my lap. Take a picture. Oh, I think it's hilarious. I'm not saying I want to actually go to those. I don't want to sit and go. I don't wanna go. Go. It's on TV. I don't wanna hear public domain music played over it. I want it. Him on like, wait. This is Vicky try, you know, trying to take off her face bandages for the first time clam music. This isn't Oliver. I know Kelly's very impressed with all it. Oh, this pretty profession. It's good. And then afterwards. She brings flashy gives flowers to Joe Lee because she was sort of like playing several different roles and one of them was like a little boy. And she's like, oh, Joe Lee if you ever want to transition you look good as a boy you do. Mother. She just walked right away from her. So now we go back now it's time for Turkish Cup reading and we have met, Ian. And she's going to re Marianna sort of was pretty vague as Bravo. Fortune tellers go she was really on the big Zaid. I mean, giving they're all at a base level of bigness. So she's like she's reading Tamara's fortune and she's like Letsie year. I see trashy son. You have trashy son batch. Have a traffic. Many thing happened in your life, and you have the right to do something for yourself. Thanks marianne. Great insights goes you decide to divorce timbers like. Gonna like what I see you playing. There's two people here. It is dark. He has heart problems. She's like. What the hell is he going to die is? I didn't it. Like nothing die, but you are separates. Jewelry kids. She goes you'll be separate for today's. But then. But then you'll be all right. Good luck to you. I'm like, oh, yes. Tamra good luck on those two days. So like this woman fix my life can come at the ants. So then it's Emily's turn and Maryam is like ju nice nice family loved the cupcakes. Okay. Somebody's close to give you many team and through close to you have to give her back many things. I'm like, I think she's suggesting that you just hand those Fresno embryos over to your sister. She earned them. I thought it was more about like you have to return the Tupperware or that. You're sister-in-law brought over for this party. Yeah. Give perry. Her see-through pants back these stole from Vicky. Yeah. So Gina Gina. I see a piece of paper in your future. You have to sign the paper. That's all. I see signed the paper. Some people have really ended up, you know, checks a paper. But if I were to check that's me. And then is I know we have a shot. But is there? Someone else was an S H indoor name S H S H and their whole like Chattan and she's like, oh, yes. Shannon. Shannon need lots of you should have her. Lots of lots of g very sad. I c cleaned cheese. I see in my Cup. Why is in mica? Lots and lots of buyers of dog poop Archie Archie is his name. Now. John to moms stuck she's stuck in the bike. Please go for bicycle. So yeah, this was pretty lame. This this t rating thing and said Temasek Shah show. It could shed I'm gonna call bath on that bass. So it's okay, thanks for the boring party. And only so everybody else had come into my birthday tomorrow with so shove, right? Mike lit applaud. Ryan and Timur tells us haven't met up mine f- I'm going on that now. Now, that's a lie. One hundred percent that she's not going to go. So you could see in her squinty possum black is like her eyes. Turn black like the devil is taking over somebody. You know when she screams. Yes. And when she says, she'll let you know, she's not going, and you know, she's not going to let her now. Also in general, let you know is the universal code for. I'm not going. Maybe right. Yeah. Almost always. So so now, it's like the next day and Jeanette Tatyana getting ready for the big party at social in Costa Mesa where sequence because that's hilarious. It's it's a tradition. Every year sequence on my birthday for no good reason doesn't really make sense for anything. But we're gonna do it because it's cool. Yawn. Birthday card. God, I hope she gets upset over thank card. Oh, she does. And then she gets a college. I miss a game winning point for my son at his game. I mean, the waiting points if she faced got the game ball all when I left that game to come here. It's just it's a lot. It's a lot game balls that sort of thing. So over Vicki's home office Michael comes in and he kisses her leave bump heads such a cut. Such cuts. So Michaels like so, yeah, I don't know you're even going under in the Kelly. Start sending me face of Staples in your ears. Mom, so thanks for telling me. And then we get a clip of Kelly FaceTime timing from Vicki's room going my goal. Guess who this is? It's a terrifying monster creepy. Mommy. Mom, exactly. Yeah. And Vic trying to keep the whole thing secret from Michael from brianna. And of course, Michael told brianna brianna got all mad. I'm like, listen Briana. Like, I get it like having this many surgeries. But like don't don't project. Your husband, probably yells at you. Putting your feet up on that couch and don't take it out on Vickie. Okay. Don't take that out. Vicky. So that death is going to happen case. It's just a face week. But listen, if there's about about can't, you get a safety deposit box to hold on this look his files, and then she opens this box of files at its terrifying. Vicki's really? Scary person. Okay. She actually she's light heart. You know? She was even cute when she was like pretend faking cancer, pills and all that stuff. Yeah. But this she's got instruments on like, everybody's she's ever known in her life. He's taking out life insurance on everybody. Yeah. His knickebocker life insurance policy. This Quinn, fry young. I get has to Gretchen brassy kind of surprised that what's taking so long to be this rate look to okay, look. Made it war, but says it shirts. It's okay. The policy amid the patriots and Betty, right? Okay. That probably should know about this. All right cut that up. Get that part out. Right, right. Yeah. Okay. I'm taking insurance policies out on you. I'm gonna take a girl. I know plenty of. Care about today by you, not have the healthiest to friends I'm going to take out policies on everybody. Take one out on you, Ronnie, you know, what? My sister actually suggested that we take out life insurance policies on each other. And I said most morbid shit I've ever heard, and she goes what have been gets hit my car? How are you going to make a living? And I was like well, thanks for your confidence. A you know, I have to say that thought has crossed my mind. Like if something happens to one of us like Ireland, you this. This is my livelihood. Now. If I rely on you Ronnie, so let's take out nineteen million dollar policy. How much does it cost? We're gonna go to co insurance everyone by you have a you know that the second one of us does diet, then it's going to become a huge murder mystery like they'd been kill Ronnie because you know, it's going to be dis call up diagnosis murderer I'm gonna call Cindy on the case. So anyway, and more morbid news, Emily is setting up a birthday table at social the hottest club in all of Costa Mesa. And so while she's doing that Vicki's at home and she's like wearing some chili pepper pajamas. And she's she goes up to Steve. Biz biz that, okay? And he's like he's like, no, you can't have it. Because the doctor said, no, you can't have it. And she big ios state is like the best looking. I could ask. I've seen a lot of movies that syndicate their way better looking out there male, nurses, Vicki's Vicki's, like the Porsche this show where she's going to talk herself. Eddie man, that's front of her. And she's like that. I sit by Steve because I haven't had that excess the doctor I'd like this. I like it. It's drives satanic drugs. He's like all right. You're not gonna have wine, but I'm gonna get you some more Xanax. I say, okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you that house gate. That house gate. Does that X backwards zanex, that's hack? That sent Tanic ex Savannah's very, Vicki and Shannon. I put those together if he's us Steve Africa tell you shattered has surgery or the little drips. So I'm gonna help her sounds like a real fun night guys. This is what happens when you don't drink coffee after four pm. Keeps it going gives them moving. So we've got that to look forward to Kelly comes to the party and Emily's boop already planned. Luca put things with glitter on the table. That's right. She put flowers on the table. Oh. The got cake glitter on it that is why I am who I am though. Poorly planner and then Gena comes and she's like, did you do all this for me? I sure to get you birthday president. But I did everything here. Also, I do that cake. Also, look at that because that glitter thing right there. I did that like. Okay. I know. So they're everyone's showing up at this already very sad birthday party. And because it's like daytime, and they're all they're gonna like a pub and they're fully in sequence and the lights coming in. And so they're all sitting there like, where's tamra, whereas camera and sure enough we over to Vicki's house and ding-dong it's tamra and she shows up looking like a cell Getty. She's made herself look like an old lady because she's wacky wacky camera like well because Gina caught us Jerry yacht trick syndrome Micheals so thought okay, why not live up to the name? You do it every day. Like, what is this at your in socio tambor's aspiring for something in line? Puts on this. Yes. She's in like, a mama's family type. She has stage makeup, which is hilarious to be old and Tamara's dancing around like. Because I had that exit vied. That's that. And Tim gives her like a house code and Vicky put on over her a little chilly pajamas. Whatever casserole because like. Vilely bricks Castro web sick. I was one of the Castro. I know that those seasons as recog- over the coals for that. Like, you're live. This aren't those beverage now, aren't they fun? I have to say Vicki surgery actually looked pretty good. I thought although she hurt basically, totally frozen. I mean, obviously it is. 'cause it's healing. But she it looked good. But you could see she could just like move. The very tips of her lips. Lex is good can't talk right now. Steve of sausage made me laugh laugh. Yes, we're because it doesn't look that different. I don't think 'cause we see me in the in the talking heads. Yeah. Tighter. Little still like just I mean. I mean, you know, it looks fine. I like when Michael told her okay now, your faces back to the old ones. So can we just stop doing this? And I'm like you just heard down another spiral of same. You know, exactly. So cameras brought some Animas for Shannon and stuff because he's being wacky. And then Vicky I think biggie says something like are you going to Gina? I don't know what it is. But Gina comes up and says. My god. I forgot to gene. I totally forgot not once when I was making a casserole for you to go to you instead of her party not once that I think I should call Mike. Gods behind Vicki's. But if she does she think you going. Energy back at the party. Not that I'm not enjoying this clinic cake and this fried calamari. But I'm gonna I'm gonna call. So she calls her and Timothy I can't time like this. Haven't land. She's gonna potting right now that an outlet, but of it, and she can't believe she ANSA hope. Everything's okay. I hope everything's okay. And then back Vicki's, there's another door belt and Steve goes answer it, Shannon. And before we even Zere, Shannon. Literally does what we always impersonate her doing. But she never really does. She. We're supposed to be wearing pajamas. Tonight. It's not that traits. I me it's traced. Look at this. There's three of us now. So later Vicki's well me, so I guess all still talking. Shamma Thscuss pets upshot. That's. Chance like you're not by me. That's trying to get my children taking away. Yeah. So then meanwhile, over at gino's part of Gina's sitting with Kelly. Oh, my go-. Maybe it's Emily, it doesn't matter. She's emily. And she's like, oh my God. So MacWorld me last night, and he's like trying to have phone sex with me. And I didn't know what to do just read things off of my pillows. I was like Hello. Gaff home is with the hot is. He came when I read the lady does boast. He was he was like, oh, I wanna bone you. And I was like Gitanes. I love you. I told them I'm taking one rag off the other rug right now and bone splooge came through right through the phone. So rollers, Shannon is putting getting rollers fit on tim'rous fitting rollers on her and Vicki's anybody needs that have extras. Now look to anybody on the show. Who's wondering why people are still friends with Vicky? This is why she's generous person. Yeah. Many do you have that offer you one of those antics, exactly? And on top of that the old lady party. Did look more fun than the sequence party. I'm sorry. I wanted to be at the old lady party. They both look set. I was I was. Parties. Yeah. Well, either way tamra and Shannon, go into the bathroom to do the enema. And I guess in this case it was role reversal Shannon was giving the anima. She's like, okay. Well, here's what you do. You just tick the David in the right here like that. And then you just like squeeze, and you try not to think about all those bodies that only have two of one because they did not think that maybe he should get five models for once. Poop out really glad we've got another someone getting something stuck up there. But to poop storyline on OC into long guys. I know then Shannon comes out of the bathroom and Shannon. Does Chen has that one type of lap that she does where? I'm so happy where she like puts her chin over her shoulder and Switzer is just. Larry great times friends. It's a same off my shoulders. Looking at mentally stable. I am right now, no mental illness here just excitement for my future with my girlfriend. That's. G. Fifty. Really positive talks. Maybe some some of the negative if you maybe like five or tenor sometimes. I mean that forty forty negative. Positive and then temperature. Kinda out. I'm not cleaning that up. I just imagine all sorts of like ghosts. And it's like that scene in Ghostbusters when they opened up the vault and all the ghosts come out. That's what happens when Tim I guess in that amount. Oh. Slime about like a machine gun filled with like kind bars or whatever. So. Now back over the other one Emily tells Kelly. I know you've never been to like a Stinson party. Simpson's. Oh. The Simpsons like, you know, he's looking door like Bunga baby wool, and I have been to assist party. Because he knows she has. Yeah. And then back over at the Emily psych. My mother-in-law was really sweep I think my I want my own mother to come to my party. I think that the theme is going to be fem Fidel party in Kelly goes. Does that mean? Kelly Kelly's obsessive dressing like a Hooker for something. Yeah. Just dressed like ochre. And I'm like goes, okay. Yeah. Just dress like a Hooker. And she goes that's easy. Man, the milkman. The milkman is totally guy that gets screwed over by fem Patel. Are totally I I was just driving this car to a different lot for her as a favor, but it turns out her dad house, but wasn't that drunk and now I meant shell guys. Check out my new girlfriend, Linda Fiorentino, I think things are going to work out. So over Vicki. That's rather checks. Mix say apprentice Jesus feds face befriends faces. Friendly faces general. Thank you Jesus. J Seth g hot hot hot, but friend who's sitting over there and the Jair dozing off while reading Doonesbury. Thank you for. But he's big. Hottest Jesus, they could geez. So Kelly calls up, and we're all you camera cameras. Like, oh my God. I'm guest house thought we're going to do sequence parties hairs maybes and. And. NFL smart. Like Tim for God. You're oversight your oversight. Gina. It was funny. Like, that's okay. They'll be more birthdays. But no birthday cards because Matt used to again me birthday cards, and now we're like getting like, then I miss Nikki getting a game ball. Like, oh, can we go to it's not your fault? You haven't visited me in a while and didn't understand together. Okay. Okay. So when Gina Gina says, it's okay. They'll be more birthdays Custos, Shannon, begin tamra. They're like how GM? Okay. It's a pretty standard response Santa starts reading into every single thing to be offended. I mean Christ that one Senate over anything so Kelly okay later on like. Over there at that party. You're having it send us like. Send us like making fun of the background saying we're playing bridge that's contras barrels from Emily's like publicly bridge and drink martinis. Martinis bridge. Donkey kong. Trying to say listen, are you trying to say we're wild animals twin barrels? Right. Ninety cray. And she's like they're making fun of our crate. Look you literally spent today putting on foot cream on each other like come on. This mad. Okay. You guys are the ones being Dixon this situation. You guys are sticking Animas up your asses. Okay. So Tim September. It's a role. You get to a certain edge and sequence nightclub. Just matter. Emma, O borough. Meanwhile, she's still mad that Kelly didn't invite her to nightclubs Bush anti out. So meanwhile, Vicki is sitting there going. I don't wanna go back. I'm like, well, congratulations. You haven't been in that life for like forty five years. I bet that girl that he just last week. You were thong and see through outfit working all over strangers. Not yet. A woman. It's me. Sometimes I cry. Atika tamra. Fast fast years batch. I love it. She's finally that Molly, Shannon character. But she's making it like the hateful version like I'm going to skip up at that panic 'cause that that that that. Yeah. So so so Tam now that one's off the phone numbers. Like, well, they made fun of my cream. So I'm gonna here's what I'm gonna do. She said, that's Mr. says this now. Okay. Because I'm Lee. Hey, shannon. I'm said because I grew up with a mentally ill. Mom. I saw some lowered is Shannon. She's like. Like what she can just diagnose me like a murder calming. Knows Steve bag doses of being Midland save that boater. He's like our Adam back to the TV. Call me if you made me a mat cleaning up that. Oop now for those of you guys who haven't been paying attention, and they're probably a lot of you given this season. Earlier this season, Shannon, said regarding Emily's marriage when I look at that marriage. I see a lot of similarities with David and then tamra or I think camera was the one who was like, Shannon, saying that Shannon, abusive or whatever and begin a whole thing and Chambas thing. Now, I was just comparing it to my experience. So now, it's exactly the inverse situation. Exact same people and notice how Shannon's good point. Yeah. Like to me. This coming from a person, not what? But twice threatening kill Callie, which I'm sure wasn't hyperbole. All and Azim attorney. She shed no not that Bank. Those people mentally mental illness. Oh, jeez. Yeah. So and the thing is this that wouldn't Kelly when Emily said it last week, she said now, I'm not a medical professional, and I'm not trying to diagnose anyone. I'm just saying. I see similarities, and it's like shoes you're saying it was triggering her. So like temper is such a fucker. God bless her. I'm so glad that the side of Thomas back. Ten. We're really is. We'll jackass and then next week as the season finale at boom out of nowhere. He's finale. That's not fun. Thank god. I mean, this this show needs to take about gay. It felt like there were a few times this season where it was going to like just like roar to life. I was like, okay. They've been regrouping announcing to come together. And it's sort of it's been fine. I've actually I think the season is fine. I just don't think it's been spectacular. However, Shannon's meltdown episode was pretty epic and classic. But yeah. You know, you don't bring I'd love covering the show to always love covering it. Even the worst episodes are still so much fun to make fun of. I mean, if I were of you, or I don't I don't know that I'd still be on the train. It's like, yeah. But Shamalia scrimmage twice seventeen by myself watching this batch. Well, we here's what we don't need. We don't need more cast members have small kids that are going to. I don't know. It's just we want. I need some petty s women. We're ready to fight and wanna fight all the time. And I think Gina and Emily were moving in the right direction. But but I think something's gone awry in Orange County. I think that they mess with the cast chemistry. And this is what we're this is where we're at now because of it. Well, we will find out what they bring next week for this batch. And then, you know, we've got a month of old ladies, ripping each other's faces off for no reason. So we'll we'll still be here for a while. But I just got my fence. Everybody thinks much for being here and listening. Go get your Christmas and Hanukkah shirts over at crap emerge dot com and all that Geneva or Ben we'll be doing his below deck. Livestream tonight over on the TV party up. I will be doing real housewives of New Jersey tomorrow night at six PM Pacific. The Dallas Dallas Dallas Dallas Dallas, which is at seven. Whatever stay. Social media. Okay, everybody. Love you talk to you tomorrow.

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NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019  Show 5 (April 8, 3pm)

Digital Production Buzz

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NAB Show BuZZ LIVE 2019 Show 5 (April 8, 3pm)

"The digital production buys it NABC sponsored by Maxine. And by simply a global distribution brand. Right now, we're talking with black magic design Maxon red giant and sound devices. This is the digital production buzz covering the two thousand nineteen and AB show. The show starts now. From the two thousand nineteen AB show in Las date technology, acknowledging problems media media nude. Thankfully, media professionals around the globe with the latest in technology. The NABC show buys starts now. Hi, welcome back. This is Larry Jordan. This is day. One of the two thousand nineteen a show, and it is just fun to watch all the people traveling around the boost I can't tell you the first time we've actually changed our booth. So we can actually see into the trade show, and it's just a hive of activity. I'd show you pictures, but it's hard on the radio. So you just have to take my word for it. It's a really cool view and thinking of cool things we've got Dan made the president of black magic design who's joining us. Because black magic owns half south lower hall. Their booth keeps getting bigger it's now two point seven million square feet. Dan, welcome back. Thanks, larry. Great to be here with you, man. I tell you you can land aircraft inside the black magic booth what Lee smaller start small and then go from there. If it wasn't that we were underground helicopters could be taking off. So what's news this week? So black magic, you know, every year, we come to any be we have a zillion new product announcements, we blow the doors off the place, and it's been exciting. For us. This year is only a little different in a few ways. First we start with Vinci. Resolve resolves big part of our platform. People are excited about what we do with it. And we spent years continuing to add new capability into the software obsolete adding editing outing in fairlight, adding in our visual effects package. This year. We decided we wanted to actually do something entirely new. And it's always when you do something new because when you're doing it behind closed doors, you're worried that you could really screwed up. Basically what we kept hearing from people is they wanted to go faster and faster and beef Astor. So we've created entire new page within dementia. Resolve sixteen which is called are cut page. And this is something that's never been done before. Where we've said look we want to have a way for people to bring in a bunch of media able to slap it all in together and the most quick fast and officiant way possible. And the scary thing there is is that we didn't want to go in and mess with the edit page because all of the pages and resolve are really cultures. And you don't wanna go in and say, hey, man, you're cultures all wrong. Do it. Our way. We really wanted to do something new from the ground up. That's never been done before. So we've added this new cut page which allows people to bring a bunch of footage in be able to work quite quickly. And we we almost applied some of our own manufacturing knowledge when we talk about no wasted movements. I'm not digging menus not assist Maine's Susan me for interrupting. But does this mean that you're not able to add transitions or affects flow from here to the application page. What's it use of the cut paste? So the so the great part there is it does have some of those applications where you can go ahead and put simple dissolves. Simple transition simple cuts fades. But it's not going to give you all the options that the Ed page does. So if I'm saying, look I've gone out and done a bunch of shooting today. I'm getting on the train. I want to work on my laptop. I don't need to everything. But I just want to go very quickly and start assembling things. I could do that all in the cut page. But the great part is because Vinci is just a series of pages that is already all loaded up into. My edit page already loaded up into my collar page. So now, if I'm saying want to actually change those transitions, I want to add titles or move onto color move onto visual effects. So it's was. Fairly important for us to be able to do something that was additive and not destructive in a way that we said, look, we're willing to force the you as an editor or as creator and to create this new environment that will allow people to quickly move from just being able to bring footage in quickly trim at it assemble, and then they just want to applaud it to you because hey, it's my fortnight video. And I'm good to go great. You can be done with that. If that's something. That's just a first step for you to move onto a longer project. Then that's a way for you to efficiently get in there. And if it's something that just needs to be skipped entirely. There's nothing wrong with doing things the way people have done before sounds like this is a great way to create a selects real, exactly. So I could turn into system editor producer Louisana to give me a sense of. Let's put the flow together at an have that flow into the editor who could unclean up. Absolutely. There's so many different ways you can say look this is the beginning of that long project and look when when I first started working with non linear editing. The first thing that I did was I just dumped all that footage in there. And just started cutting it up to get that a rough thing done because I didn't know I was supposed to creep in. And named clips and do all the things that when we talk about big editing projects that we do. I should have trained you. Well, unfortunately, it's too late now, but it's so important for us because we want to you know, while Davinci resolve is used by the highest and Hollywood is and we've done other amazing things like you'd expect do added new facial recognition for things to really high end done. But we also wanted to do this new thing that we felt would be great for now system editors professional editors new editors and something that's never really been tried industry. So that's really exciting thing that we see with resolve sixteen is being one of our kind of cornerstone products for when you say really hasn't been done before. I can't think of non linear editor that doesn't have the ability to cut clips with the difference is it's the ease of use and all show my age and part of our religion or have turned other company that wants a time made an editing software that was their own proprietary software that was beloved because of how easy it was to us. And while it didn't have all of the features of the other main editing software is out there. It was just so beloved because of the ease of use and the stability of it. Especially at the time when an. L E was just coming out. And I do almost hearken back to that. I just want to quickly get in I've gone out and done this to camera wedding shoot. How do I quickly do that kind of multi editing quite quickly? And if we have our time code matched up, I can do these almost linear editing moves in very, very quick fashion. And I think once people start working with the product they'll figure out how they wanna use it rather than us going in saying, here's how you are going to use the product case, we've got this new cut page inside resolve sixteen and by the way, congratulations on the release. Thank you all sixteen. What else is new in resolve? So we've done a bunch of things where we improved, of course, performance capabilities of cross fusion and fairlight those platforms continue to be added in there. I mentioned some of the neural intelligence where we too are. Adding in functionality, I mentioned the facial recognition software. So being able to say, hey, have dumped in four hundred clips, and I've got these ten actors. I want them to all be put into folders where they can have the facial recognition say, this is the main actor this the side. This is the mom character. And all of those things will go on using AI to be able to do the ability to masks, intelligent masks. Hey, I want to take out this balloon from the picture, but the pictures panning across simply mask it out. The artificial intelligence now goes and fills in all that data behind there. So some really high end features that we've put in addition to just the cut page for the ease of you. So it's important for us to continue to advance the entire platform across all of its different pages. So that nobody feels like, oh, well, they just focused on color. Correct, tugging. We wanna make sure all those are advancing together. Now, I would like normally to talk more about the part, but I don't want to run out of time. And I know you've also released some new hardware. Tell me about that. Yeah. The one of the things that is also a little bit different for us as you know for black. Magic design often when we talk about our hardware development. We challenge ourselves to make the best thousand dollar camera. How do we make a hyper deck recorder? That's a thousand dollars. And and a lot of our decisions are about creating a price point to help elevate people in power people this year, we actually took a little bit of a different approach. We've had so many customers come and say, can you add this and can you do this? And we said, well, look, why don't we worry about the price point for once? And actually just putting features and inputting features in and what we realized was we were building this great big product. And by big it's big by black magic standards in some of these five thousand dollars and ten thousand dollars products, we've created, but we realized that we were just a hair away from basically creating K products because what an eight K K, Dan. So what were you smoking? The thing is this real rationale behind. And you're gonna love it. If you're going to go and create a four EMMY switcher where you're getting all of these different inputs in there. And you say look, we've got a forty input switcher, and it's at HD. Well, that's really a ten input eight K Swisher. Now, the question is how many people need questionnaires, and we know that that's not a huge market out there. But but as as we're looking at ourselves saying, we're doing something we've never done that. We're almost uncomfortable. We're going to charge you Larry sit down ten thousand dollars for for products. I wanna make sure that I'm giving people the most they can for that ten thousand dollars product. So not only is it going to be an HD switcher in an ultra HD switcher. It's going to be case. Which are it's going to have all of the capabilities of upscaling downscaling. It's going to have all the ability to have these programmable outputs everything that we can do in give to people, including a k understanding that not everyone today needs that case, which are you will have a long conversation about this in the future. Eight K. I think is a pox on humanity. But, you know, don't want to mince words, here's Dan for people on low the latest black magic where that go on the web making dined us at WWW dot black magic design dot com and notice it's actually with no hyphen dot com. I'm very impressed. Dan bay is the president of black magic design. The website is black. Magic design all one word black magic design dot com. And Dan have yourself a great show. Thanks for joining. Every year at the NFC show. You'll find more than a few attendees camping out at the Maxon cinema four D booth all day why because Maxon hosts presentations by the most respected three d artists and visual effects, motion graphics and design this year. There will be twenty eight unique presentations from twenty one different artists, even if you're not attending, and you can watch all the cinema. Four D presentation streaming live at C four d live dot com. And if you register you'll be entered into a raffle to win from over twenty thousand dollars in prizes. Can't watch live. No worries all presentations will be made available on demand on Amax on YouTube channel a few weeks after the show back. Saen cinema four d stopped by mack-san's booth at. A B and south lower sixty three twenty four or tune into the livestream at C four d live dot com that see the number four D live dot com. Welcome back to day one of the two thousand nineteen NABC show. This is Larry Jordan, and we are sitting and chatting. Well, I must confess not only great guy, but just one of our sponsors, which makes him in. A specially great guy. Dave mcgavin is the CEO of maximum folks that makes before Hello. Dave, welcome. Thank you very much. Dave or David go. Dave, I can go with whatever it's your name. You could pick in discussing this all day. So I think we've been not cited yet. So we'll go day for this. He's got started for this day only. We're gonna call him. Dave mcavan. Dave, welcome. You're based where we're based in Phoenix Dorf, Germany outside of Frankfurt, which is where all development takes place, most of the development takes place there. We also have developed an office in Montreal. We have a number of developers there as well. So for people that haven't heard about cinema four d yet I need to and second. How do describe the product? It's the I'd like to think of it at the industry leading three d. Modeling sculpting motion graphics tool set for creating you know, all all the treaty content. That's out there. And who would you describe as target markets? List all of them. But who's a couple? I mean, I think the biggest market would be has broadcast motion graphics. I'm with three d content, but we're using medical use using architecture used in all sorts of threes aspects motion pictures, digital visual effects. So it's used everywhere. So it'd is all about that. Which is new so I hope you have something new to talk about today, or we're going to have a very very short entertain. We have number of new things to talk about it. There's obviously some very big news go for it. What you got? So we've been working on this project since I've almost since I started at Maxine to really invest in our future of the rendering of three d technology. So it's this morning at ten AM. We announced that we acquired Redshift rendering technology, which is great great experience for us and the customer reactions been spectacular from both customer segments from the maximum side. And the Redshift saw what did they do that you guys because you've been rendering, and especially the the cinema bench. Been proof of rendering since the beginning of time. Why would you acquire somebody? So we have an absolutely beautiful high quality CPI render. It's almost all of our stuff is coming out of it people love it. It's it's super high quality. However, the industry is really starting to get to the point where GP rendering now as high quality as as beautiful, but it's much much more performance. And so it's critical that we have that technology in house. So you were doing CPU rendering. And now you're shifting over to the graphics processing unit the GP, correct? And they're both can be used for the foreseeable future. They have differences, but GPO is critical for much of our market segment. I show it's faster. That's pretty much it gives you interactivities. So as you're working on your project, you can actually get real feedback as you're as you're moving your scenes around and change in them. Whereas we need to wait quite a bit longer. But you guys are famous for the quality of your images. If you go with GP rendering of IKEA suffer a loss in quality. There are I wouldn't say loss, but there are differences at times, however, Redshift is probably the highest quality went out there. And they've been working on it since two thousand twelve so actually huge segment of our user base has already moved over to Redshift because the performance and the quality is more than enough for what they're doing. So I would take a cinema four d project and exported to Redshift will you be using the Redshift plug in within maximum it ships today. And so all the settings that you use Redshift already available to you within maximum. Okay. So faster rendering is always a plus because for three d rendering takes forever, which is now less than forever. So what else you got this new? We're also we just came off the Academy Awards constellations two months ago. I think or something like that time is flying really fast now. So as an absolute pleasure to be able to go down there and just have maximum the programmer parade per androids Edwards being recognized for the mole graph tool said having. Not much of an impact on the motion picture industry. So that was just a huge opportunity for us. Then disabuse honor besides the acquisition as anything new in the product. I'm not specifically the show floor released our twenty back in September. And it's just gone a massively popular release. It's being picked up really fast customers are really attracted to it. Okay. Here's the quiz on your memory released twenty at last fall, what are some of the highlights in that release. So we had some of the biggest thing is open VDB, so volume metric modeling is really big. We also have full CAD import. But one of the biggest things especially the motion graphic at this thing is fields. It's a new new feature in the mobile tool set that just gives you the ability to have fall off fields with all the parameters in the motion graphics now. That means what we're something fades away. No, it sort of spreads through the through the animation. So it's almost hard to describe because it's so powerful you can use it in almost every different way. But. There's a we have twenty artists giving demos at our booths. And they're showing off all the variations of how it can be used. It's actually was even hard for some of our customers understand because it was a subtlety powerful feature. And in the six seven months since it's been released. The everybody surprising each other with how buried it can be on. But it's in the same tool set that won the Academy Award. So it's just it's just taking it to another level, but you can also mixed in with the volume metrics, and obviously gets arbitrarily complex. So where are you taking the product where your goals, and I'm not looking for a product, but more what caught your attention? What are you paying attention to? So obviously, the the GPO par right? If if you do things faster than you can open it up to more customers. Right. It would it was a self limiting factor in in the past that if you're going to be three artists you needed to be able to someone who can work with a twenty four hour render. And then have the patience to change the parameters and fix it again. So I think when you start getting into the high performance three d you have a lot more. More potential for customers because it's going to go to the broader. But at the same point if you just look at where the industry's going, and I saw this even in my previous roles, if you look at an AR thing or VR or any of these things where people are trying to have more Mersad experiences every bit of content that goes into that needs to have three or it doesn't make sense. You're not gonna put a postcard or two objects in our experience. So as all the industry is changing. So that there's more three d content being created we want to be the people who create it for you. And so that's just naturally expanding our market, and if you mix that in with our partnerships with adobe, or with this now GP rendering, we just have this huge market opportunity to have more people using our tools, but the challenge is getting people to understand how to use your tools. Suitable fair is not the world's easiest application to learn absolutely not. And I've been learning myself in the last year and taking courses, but I think what is fair to say it's easiest of the three creation tools, and I don't mean to say otherwise. But what are you doing to help people? Learn the up. Yes. So we're doing a lot of. Investigation of what it means to do sort of, you know, on boarding. That's the new industry term for how do you get started in application, very fast? And it's one of the things I've been working with the team months since I've been there is how do we start making it more accessible to more people? And some of that is nice because if you start in and after effects where a lot of people are really skilled, and then move over to a cinema with the where plug in that is actually a natural sort of education point for people. So you can move those two deacon positives over pretty easy because there's a lot of similarities, but we do need to work on our on boarding in our are in learning. So we're working really hard on that will do you have any educational resources people can refer to absolutely we have a a website called cinema city. And that's a great place to go. You can find it all linked off of our website maximum dot net. So Senate versity as hours and hours of content. Very cool. If there's one thing you want people to know about soon before what would it be? Wow. If you want to do three d coming give it a try. It's it's everything you need to do the best content in the world. And for people that want to learn more. What website can they go to go to maximum dot net? And demos available and they can try it out. That's all one word M, A X, Maxine dot net, not dot com max on dot net. Dave McGovern is the CEO of Maxine except on those days when he's not Dave, but David Dave McGovern is the CEO of Maxine Dave, thanks for joining us. Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure. Take care. Welcome back. Now, I wanna introduce Erin Rabinowitz. He's the head of marketing and executive producer for red giant films. And case you're wondering that means he's working with red giant Aaron welcome back. Thanks for having me back. So tell us for people that may not know describe red giant, Regina company that makes tools for people creating motion graphics, visual effects and color correction. We make mostly things plug into other host applications like Dobie premiere pro after fix final cut pro. And the like, well, we would just talking to Dave McGovern who is doing very similar things cinema four. What's the difference between the two of you again, they are three -application news on Richard? As as ING today that it's really want things. I'm most excited about having heard at any so rarely get excited. But that was pretty cool that we actually make stuff that again works with their stuff. You know, they render something out in semaphore bring it over to after-effects. And then you're working with are plug ins. To help enhance the three stuff that you're doing there. But minor stunning as you're not doing three they're doing three you're doing to work. Some of that you might experts three d models from there from something you modeled and bring it into after-effects, and we can use that for a particle generation system shaped like three the object, for example. So if you might model into a four and then become a particle or for trap code stuff that we make very cool. Well, one thing that we want to talk about it any be as we wanna talk about that, which is new. So what does red giant done for us lately where we ate blasters been really? I mean, amazing since the last NBA we released near the end of the year release on called trap, code, fluid, dynamics, which code fluid, dynamics, right? And it's the first time ever, you have particle systems interacting as if they were contained in fluid so up until now all the particle systems been sort of independent issued particles out, but for the first time ever, you have these namic fluid environment in which particle systems interact partial swirl amongst each other and create some really powerful. Visual effects motion graphics done the last year, and that's part of trap code traffic. It's actually in trapped particular, entrapped code form k. Okay. That's clearly the only new thing that you guys have done last twelve months. Release giant universe? Three point. Oh, which was a really upgrade to our fastest growing tool. Set fast to most adopted thing it's something we offer subscription between people are going to love the people love being sort of rent these plug ins, either annual your monthly. But essentially, we've got this the set of over seventy tools in that are available to affects from your pro final cut pro tons of other stuff, and it's stuff that editors would be using also that motion route using we're trying to bring motion graphics to people who don't have the time to create motion brackets universe is really become another word not just a plug in. But presets template and work with. Yes. In fact, everyone of the over seventy tools comes with presets make very easy. Just quickly ply them jump in and make changes and I've seen even our priests. That was actually watching Bumblebee, you know, the movie, and I was like I like I made that present. That. So, you know, and we are actually in terms of new we don't have it out yet. But we are showing tomorrow actually at the frame with a little bit of it. We have new visual effects week that's coming out, and it's aimed at solving the challenges of complex composite and visual effects in after fix that made English. Well, a lot of things that people might go to something like like nuke for because it's just it's too hard to do in a program like after fix. We're trying to bring a much higher level composite vigil to after its affect my favorite tool, but it does have its challenges. Give me an example of what's composite challenge? Okay. I don't not going to into it. But the great thing that we find is trying to composite environments, if you have a lot of your composite into scene and the light from the background is supposed to bleed over into every object that your composite in. It's very difficult to light rap every single every single object. Right. But we are coming up with tools that make it easy. You apply light rapid then suddenly. Everything knows that it's supposed to be brought over onto that layer. So you're making what is easy in nuke? Something very easy to do something easy to do after like your back lighting virtual set. You gotta have that light float light float around and challenges that when something passes between if you have a layer that passes between your layer. That's your foreground. It doesn't pick up that layer. Because it's looking at the back layer for the light. So we're trying to Aimar this products into lot of really interesting things, and that's just a small one. But just sort of making it easier to composite things that would take a lot of pre composing a lot of work to just make it super easy to do. It's hard to composite, but it's hard to make a single scene. Yeah. So what you're looking at is trying to make a single scene. Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's a mix of like the of bringing many things together that would otherwise be very challenging to bring together into one shot, for example. We'll before we run out of time. What else you got to? We're we're going on. You know, we always make films, right? We've got I don't think we make films. I think you make film got. I wish I made the film. I made I have directed. But. Seth wurley. And and and and to match wits end Hoshimoto or team, Stu director film this year coal tank people. It was amazing people loved it. It was really good throwback to like a lot of the eighties. But not in terms of like acting. It was a graphically he recreated the look of Victor, art games in that era and Hashi film, something this summer with with David Hewlett from shape of water, and that's being worked on. And Seth is nearing completion. On a film, it he is working on called dark color. So we have a lot of stuff that we've been very active. Why you and I've talked about this before. But now, suddenly you're turning into a production house. You've got multiple films in post. Yeah. I mean the way we look at it is if we're not making things with our products than we're not really we don't really understand what we're doing. You know, we we make the same way we make our products that we don't make things I said this recently, we don't make things to make money. We make things that make money because we love them. We need these tools. We make them for us. And then if we're lucky they live through that process of of believing that. Are important and become a product that we can then sell our films are not something we used to make money. It's something we sell. We wanna share we want to inspire people because we're inspired by visual effects and filmmaking and the great work that's being done out there. And so we like to we like to do this these things because it's in our DNA like Stu worked on Star Wars. You know, how she just spent time working on some film, Seth as director me. I watched a lot of movies. But we, but we love film, and and for us to make it helps us make our tools better too. So we got all the list of new things are more to come. No. I think that visual effects sweet is a big deal, and it's going to be really excited about it. It's I hate seeing people's game changers. And things like that. But I've been working with the tool for the last few weeks that set of tools because there's actually nine of them, and it's going to blow people away with they can do with have you announced to name. It's the it's going to be called VCX, sleet, and I know right, which is marketing just runs runs on its own. We don't have to write anything and have you not to release date or pricing that not yet. No. Why not I find that people get really disappointed when you announce release it, and then you don't release by that date. Oh, well, that's the point right product take time to do. But we've been working on this for a long time, and it's gone through a lot of love. And that's you know, we're not we don't want to release something that we don't think is going to be awesome. So we're very close. But we need a little more time. There's a lot of affects companies a lot of affects out there. Why should somebody choose red giant? So the thing that's to match. What's said to me? Sue again, I mentioned before he's filmmaker. And he's our chief creative officer and he worked on. Ironman stores sits me if I had to tell somebody why they should buy Hullah metrics plug in that I designed I'm not going to tell them because this feature or that feature. I'm gonna tell me because we got a guy at the company whose so nerdy about holograms that like, you know, a lot of love went into this product, and for Stu, it's color correction and visual effects. You know, this is what he reads and lives, and this is what we are. We're not people who who just see the stuff. We just we make this stuff because we love it. And for people wanna find out how what products are made with love. We're gonna go on the will head over to red giant dot com. And that's all one word were red giant dot com. Red giant dot com and Aaron Rabinowitz as the head of marketing and the executive producer red giant Soames imperative is always fun visiting. Thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having take care. I want to introduce you to simply workspace powered by store next six. This new storage technology is the answer to how smaller post and in-house creatives can work simultaneously on high resolution content without the hassle of big facility infrastructure. All your content is stored in one place. There's no moving and copying files. Just plug in your max PC's, Lennox workstations using thunderbolt cable and yet to work. Simply workspace is a professional grade storage network. Starting at ten nine ninety five for a twenty four terabyte rape system. Supporting four simultaneous MAC users. You can grow capacity and users you need up to two hundred eighty terabytes and eight simultaneous users. No, rack storage Fibre Channel just the speed. And ease you need. 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This is Larry Jordan. And I'm talking with Paul is IX, he's the director of product management and design for sound devices. Hello, Paul, welcome back doing Larry things having me. It is always fun to talk about audio because we're an audio podcast. And you guys should do stuff that we love every day. So it's always fun chatting for people that may not know give us a quick description of sound devices. Well, sound devices being around for about twenty years making cool, potable mixes and recorder's primary the TV and film industry. But in the last few years, we'd be making portable record is also other markets podcasts. Youtube YouTubers any form of comes in creates a video Griffey's last year. We the full we release the mixed pre-series. We've brought out technology to a wide audience, and that's been going really well, and we've actually started branching out into the end markets as well recently, am I. Yeah. So we've we've developed sort of overlapping technologies people can make music without a computer. They can multi-track and great great songs in front of a and be an IT technician. So that's what being very success over the last year. So and just because I know the answer but worse, the company based Wisconsin, which you got to admit is not the world's audio capital. But swear, I grew up. So I get the biggest kick out of the fact that you guys are based there who will we wanna out dreams to turn into the new Silicon Valley. Very. There are couple of high-tech companies out who this trade show is pick pick health company to company so pretty buzzy buzzy vibe, vibrant, very cool. Well, let's talk about the new stuff because this is the after all what have you got new? Well, we have scope e a scorpion. Yeah. We're getting a straight want scorpions. I want have enough trouble with his desert. What's the Scorpio a Scorpio? This is how most premium products we've ever developed spent a long time in the make. It's a familiar with the seven AT. I always say no about that. So tell me whether seven eight c was the work who's multi track record mix of TV and film from really over the last ten twelve years, and we had the Sixers which was also very high tech multi sixteen track. Sixteen track portable mix record of us to use TV and film that sound. Dialoque there's applications, but uses seventy tusk customs wanted something to replace the seven eighteen is number of reasons, why that particular product that was our premium product. But this product the Scorpio is a product that not only replaces in my take upgrades it from a long long way. So it's the thirty two channel that's to input channel thirty six track. Record thirty to channel thirty six track. Mix record with sixteen of high quality, Mike pre-empts we've ever made twelve analog outs. Twelve internal mix buses thirty two channel Dante in and out a s in and out and integrated wireless portable package, you can run over your show with veterans. I just want to know that our audio engineer left, waving credit cards. So. This show may just shut down right now. How did you manage to do that sort of defies the laws of physics? Let's stop by saying who's this for who's going to want something like this. You know, this is we sing sort of like exponential growth in the number of wireless channels people when he is in reality shows, the big brothers the survivors. All of these reality shows that is just more more Thailand required on two recorded on isolated recalled tracks. And we're also seeing episode IX requiring more and more portable because if you've got that big o of video village you've got room to set out. A mixing console will take with rings. For instance. One of some mix is running hill. He's been running around with more than sixteen. Mike's chasing Xs around in what really difficult very confined locations in the middle of the Irish countryside aware of that filming throws. He's needing more channels with. And we're seeing this need Grote and grow seems like we bring out a device and people say, oh never. The many channels, and we're that seventy eight six eight, and so we add move, and and this is that separate applications for rinsed alive classical recording. Anyway, with multiple Mike's required, and these are the highest quality might preempts and any type of mobile situation so to release it will be in the second quarter and announced the price. Yes. It's eight nine nine five. So it records to three media. It's an internal drive two hundred fifty six gigabyte, and you could lose a Simitis recruits to St. cod. So he can hand off backup copies. But one of the things that really wants to talk about is how we've opened up the control architecture of this box because yes, you can use on the Shoda. I don't think many people are gonna use that many channels over the shoulder, but it's also designed for cop pace fixed mobile, rigs and. In those situations. People want to use it with stone fader controls. So we now support the USB Midi control protocol, which has been widely supported by many controls. Many and we at she specifically machi- control interface. And so I could have your recorder but drive through machi-, Anna face. Yes. Out of the chute with supporting a control by a company called icon and make this platform range, and it's it's a very compact because out customs Compaq solutions too. So that can be mobile, and it's like eight motorized feta's, and they can be banked switchable. So you can access old. That's two channels by hitting the Bank button full times each channel has full control over fada trim gain mutes solos record coming three bend each. Hugh. High pastas limited delay. Bossons? This is basically a full digital live console in a portable box think of an Allen and heath or digital third largest consoles. This has the same power and flexibility as it is a speed having sort of like, wait cross rich developed this thing that it's putting Trevor we received a lot of interest in this. Even just the first here. That is so cool shipping. Second quarter. Yep. And eight nine nine nine eight nine nine five dollars different got to save. Every penny have eight nine nine five. And it's called the scorpion. This or anything else at the booth that we want to touch on quickly for your run on time. We'll something that's news. I was talking about the mix pre-series, which is the move budget value range, which is to put causes video fatal new cheese. We have actually now provide to control that is as well. And we have an Amazon IX implementation to very cool show. I can now drive the mixed pre again from a standard control fate or controls can feel like running a console which was actually feeding your unit. Absolutely. She's very cool for people who want more information about products at sound vices has were gonna go on the web send devices dot com. That's all one word sound devices. Sound devices dot? Common. Paul ISIS is director of product management and design for sound devices. Paulison very exciting things there. I wish you great success. In have yourself a great show. Thanks, larry. Thanks, take care. I wanna thank our guest. Today. We started with Dan may from black magic design Dave mcgavin from Maxon Erin Rabinowitz from red giant Paul is from sound devices. Our senior producer is Debbie price show producer Pauline Borowski transcripts provided by Simon says my name is Larry Jordan. Thanks for listening to the digital production buzz at the two thousand nineteen and AB show. 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Digital Production Buzz - May 16, 2019

Digital Production Buzz

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Digital Production Buzz - May 16, 2019

"Mike on the buzz. We've talked with producers about the current challenges that they face in our industry today. We start with Aaron symbol a television and feature film producer with more than twenty years of experience tonight. He shares use fought on what it takes to be a successful producer next. Von Russo was an award-winning producer director and writer of film television and digital media tonight she discusses diversity under represented audiences and discovering. Untold stories next Jay Kelley is senior producer at explorer, national geographic's flagship and a twice. Emmy nominated director and correspondent tonight provides global perspective on what the media industry. Looks like for producers next. Tom Jennings is an EMMY and Peabody, award winning documentary, filmmaker ten shirt, A-List tonight, gives us, an inside look at the current state of executive. Producing in today's media landscape. All this, plus the latest from James to Ruvo's journal. The buzz starts now. Since the dawn digital film-making. One show serves a worldwide network of media session. Uniting industry. Experts brushing filmmaker. Russian and content created around the plant distribution from them media capital of the world in Los Angeles, California, digital production goes live now. Welcome to the digital production buzz, the world's longest running podcast for the creative content industry covering media production post production and marketing around the world by my name is Larry Jordan this month. We're looking at our industry through a variety of lenses last week. We talked with post production companies this week were chatting with producers next week. We look at cameras in the week after we examined technology itself, all with the goal of getting a better sense of the state of our industry. There's a lot happening. And I can't wait to share it with you. By the way, if you enjoy the buzz, please give us a positive rating and review in the I tune store, we appreciate your support to help us grow our audience. And now it's time for James to Ruvo's journal. Hello James Abbe Thursday. Larry a wonderful Thursday. To you. What's the news this week? We just yesterday had a DJ event where they are. Nounce the DJ Osma action camera. This is basically a gopro killer that will shoot four K sixty with HD mode, and slow motion in HD and up to two hundred forty frames per second. It also has what they're calling rock steady image stabilization. That's very similar to go pros, hyper smooth, but the real feature that's got everybody talking is this one point four inch front facing touchscreen, LCD which let's all those action cameras geeks frame, those action selfish shots properly, and that all by itself makes this very exciting new camera from DJ. Well, I can already guess what's your opinion, while the new DJ I more action is by no means an innovative design. It is a well built camera packed with feature some which action camera geeks of one at for years. I mean I. I can't believe it's taken this long to put a selfie screen on the very front because every action camera video I've ever seen half. The footage is of the person doing whatever sport they're doing. It's as if DTI took a paid from Apple's playbook and stood on the shoulders of giants and refined, the state of the art into something everyone can use. But what's really interesting for me is the price the price is three hundred forty nine dollars. About fifty dollars cheaper to go pro hero seven when it's not on sale. It's almost as if DJ is ignorant gopro altogether. And just going up against the cheaper brands. All right. That's what's our second story adobe is warning creative cloud users of legal action, should, they use older versions of premier and other creative cloud apps users are getting emails advising their loan longer licensed to use older versions of creative cloud apps, including adobe, premiere pro Photoshop media director animate, and even light room classic so user should update to the spring update right away continuing to use anything, but the most recent version may open up users to legal action from third parties, and the third parties part of the warning may refer to adobe ongoing legal dispute with Dobie over how many creative cloud users are using their software on a monthly basis, adobe isn't telling and Dobie wants their fair share of royalties. According to the original agreement made before creative cloud was even launched. Now, I want to mention this is a creative cloud issue. If you're running creative suite, which is see us six you're not affected. That would be true. I can understand it obese position. But this year puts users in a tough place. It does it underscores the precarious nature of software licensing, when you buy software or in this case subscribe to it, you don't really own it, you're paying for permission to use it. And that permission can be revoked at any time in this case like you said, adobe is telling users, they can't use older versions of creative cloud product, or they could be sued not by Dobie, but by Dolby, or any other third party that they are having a legal dispute with, so while adobe customers are caught in the middle. Adobe is coming off as being heavy handed in this even though they're just advising to protect their client base. And it's a PR disaster. All right. That's a Dobie. What's our third story? Well Nikon is listening to users and opening up the wifi standard for their DSL our cameras through an upcoming firmware update users of the Nikon, fifty d five hundred d seventy five hundred and deficiency six hundred will now be able to use any wifi standard. They choose bypassing Nikon's proprietary hybrid snap bridge protocol, unfortunately, Nikon, defied, users are included in this update at the moment. What's the importance of this users have been complaining about the proprietary, snapper protocol? It's very limited. It's got a limited distance and range, and they just don't like it with z series. Camera Nikon has offered users the choice of either an open WI fi connection or connecting through snap bridge, and so they're just lining all the other cameras up with that open, protocol, and it's really good news. Because. Now, now users are free to use whatever they want what we've talked about DJ at Dobie Nikon, one of the stories you following this week. Other stories were following include Intel may have another security breach issue affecting their CPU's. A filmmaker Ed a DIY flip up touch screen to his black magic pocket cinema camera, and our Matt's really slowing down with new versions of MAC OS. That's what we're looking at. And where can we go on the web, for industry news and reviews? All these stories and more can be found that Donal news dot com or on Twitter at Donnelly's and James to Rubio is the editor in chief doddle news and joins us every week. We'll see you next thirsting have a good weekend. I want to introduce you to a new website they lowered dot com. Falem is an artist community and networking site for creative people to connect be inspired, and showcase their creativity Bela dot com, features content from around the world with a global perspective on all things creative. They low is the place for creative folks to learn collaborate market and sell their works failure was apart of they low arts of worldwide community of artists filmmakers, and storytellers from photography to filmmaking performing arts, fine arts and everything in between failure is filled with the resources you need to succeed. Visit they low dot com and discover how their community can help you connect learn and succeed that stay lope dot com. Erin Semel is a television and feature film producer with more than twenty years of experience in producing all forms of TV from unscripted reality shows, too scripted up a sonic too long form miniseries. Hello, Aaron welcome back. Hello. Larry. How are you? I'm talking to you as always fun to. Have you back tonight? We're looking at the current state of producing in media and before we step back to look at the industry. How would you describe the projects that you enjoy producing? Storyteller at heart. What I always look for. Is it goods store? That's always my starting on. So it always comes down to is this story relevant. And is there an audience that is out there looking for this, so at the core of at all, I guess I look great characters, and engaging Quat points and things like that? And I feel like if you have those everything else kind of falls into place, but it sounds like that's leaning more towards scripted stories than unscripted reality. Is that true? Story is just as important in your unscripted as it is in scripted. In fact, it leads to a halt department that doesn't even exist in the scripted realm in scripted. You know, I always say you know what the glass is sitting on the table, six months before you start rolling cameras. Yeah. You know. So you've got your story figured out before you start it, you know, you've already talked to your editor, and you've already worked with director. They've got ideas of how they're shooting things and angling things to, to get what they need. Unscripted your story is just as important, and you go out with a vague idea almost an outline of what you wanna do. Shoot a bunch of footage, and then you come back, and there's a whole department, that exists in ons story producing further and these are primarily editor base, producers people who understand story and understanding editing process, and what they do. They string together story points out of all this footage and they helped shape, your story, the once again, you know, how many times I said story and that sentence. That's how important is, you know, you're not going to be in ball in a reality TV show. There's no store, you know, when you watch the Olympic, which is let's say track and field event and the guys running the hundred meter deaths, that's over thirty seconds. So how do they make an important to most of the time, they show the background story of the act with give you video packets that explains where this person came from who they are? So that now you're more invested, you know. Now, you have the story that makes the thirty seconds that much more impactful. All righty. Let's take a step back and look at producing in general, rather than producing your projects as you look at the industry, clearly were in a time of intense change at multiple levels, but from your perspective as producer haughty UC, what's happening in the industry. Like we're at an odd time in the industry. It's an odd time but a good time. I always say in chaos says up tune ity and definitely in the chaotic part of the industry, one big thing that I see happening on the produce oil side is what I like to call the end of the thirty second spot. We're starting to see appetizers and marketing change in the way they have to deal with what they do, because the thirty seconds spot television at is changing. It's not as effective. It's not working as well. So they're trying to come up with new ways to, you know, integrate brands and have advertising and marketing happens, and it leads to, you know, fairy is different opportunities on the produce oil side because, you know as much as I just preached about being storyteller. We are in show. Business and is basically inside of it, and as producers that a lot of time your job, and the way he's advertisers, and marketers are working nowadays and what they're looking for. There's a lot of the tunechi for new business models for producers to chance to do things financing that they wouldn't have been able to before. Because again you now getting integrated with kind of new, I guess what I would call experimental marketing funds where the brands are trying to figure out ways to integrate their products. But thinking about that further funding has always been a challenge for the independent. Filmmaker it sounds like funding is even more challenging, because the traditional approaches don't work sat true. Yeah. I mean it's funny. And you say the digital protas like what is traditional approach in the old sense you would think, oh, I have a movie, and I'm gonna sell it to studio. And they're gonna make my movie only that traditional SAM's is very skewed these days. So it does exist, but it's not like the old days where you could be standing outside the studio and get, you know, this covered so to send these studio deal now like we serve upper upper echelon, and the, you know, the top tier of Hollywood because they're only making these giant tent. And so as a writer or somebody, you know, the Turkish inal model on me go to Hollywood studios gonna make my movie in the independent sense. It's very difficult that doesn't exist anymore. It's very hard. But it does exist in the sense that studios are still making movies that model still exists. But what is happening? Rise and independent producing for vehicles like nuts, like an Amazon prime which are streaming. So now there was a bit of a lull in the studio stop making independent movies and we're focusing on poles. Independent producers started having a really hard time. Creating business models, so that fun production, but as we now have evolved and moved into the streaming round, it's opened up a whole new business model. Like I said the chaos comes for to which led to a whole new John of independent filmmaking four streaming purposes for the audience that is at home. You know, the audience that would like to sit down and watch a well crafted character driven drum that on the answer doesn't necessarily, go to the movie theaters anymore, but they are at home watching it, and they do want that content. So it's now created this market for it. And now independent producers finding new ways to raise funding who's that vehicle, which is very interesting is not only very interesting, but it's a different environment. We're not looking at films on the large screen anymore. We're looking films on the small screen does that change the way that you either shoot or. Usa film. Me personally, again, it goes back to story where it's like at the artist in me would like to say, I will never compromise my artistic integrity, but at the same time. Yeah, you'd think about these things. I mean, look at Jeffrey Katzenberg right now launching an entire company. It's called. Which is. Yagan current for the small screen. And when I've seen small screen, I mean tablets and. Yup. You know, content that is created specifically for short form who to five minutes. You know, watch quick and headphones in you're on the but so they wanna see massive game of thrones dragging burning cities. Sorry. Spoiler alert. Yeah. They wanna see different types of contents. So do that. Another interesting thing on that note, and I talked about it a lot of people is how like in our business a lot. We make like sizzle reel to go sell our concept. So as a producer, I'll have an idea for TV show. Let's go make a TV show about nary interviewing people. So I have this concept and then I'm gonna make a sizzle reel. I'm gonna make video and the video's gonna show how that show would look in how it would work. In the types of people who married, we interview on a show. So when I make the sizzle reel, I have been telling more and more people to look at you two I've been signing myself saying this, when you make a sizzle real look at your to watch how they make content short form content. How how kids I call him? His, you know, people are. Are making content on YouTube that. Is designed to be short engaging visual. Like there's a big thing and infographics right now where it's like put your words on the screen because what's happening on the small screen people aren't listening. I've read statistics say, most people who watch and Instagram video aren't listening to just watching it. They have no value. So if you have something important to say put words on the screen and said, because they're not listening to. Sometimes it does affect how you create your content for the most part. Like you said, stories very important if I'm gonna make a story about millennials in the ways it communicates. And yes, I'll create a very steamatic aspect to the show. That is in some ways, Fisher usually Representative of hat, sting or snap. Chatting or whatever these kids do these days. You know what I'm saying? Larry. Yep. Sounds like it's producing for the AD generation. Well, I think every generation before it said that about the next generation. So Aaron for people that want to people want to hire you for their next gig or give an idea to you. What's the best way for them to get in touch with you? I always say you could just Email me that my emails Iraq, you know, in the produce Oriole game you get right to the source. So Email me direct by he knows very easy. Just my name at gmaiLcom Aaron Semel, g mail dot com. Ariel simmering, anyone can Email me. I'm happy to talk and Erin. It is always fun to talk to Erin Similars executive producer and CEO of boom-boom Boya and producer in his own right of many shows Aaron. Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you sin. Thank you, very. Cloudy here, like a regular Hollywood out in about trying to run around and make no problem talk to you later. Take care of. If on Rousseau is an award-winning producer director and writer for film television, and digital, she is currently producing with Warner Brothers and bad robot on a television series, which is in development at executive producing with handmade films, a comedy series for television. Hello. Von, welcome back. Hi there. Thank you tonight. We're looking at the current state of producing and before we look at the industry. How would you describe the projects that you enjoy producing? Well, the projects that I enjoy producing are projects that have a meaningful, and exciting social value to them. I really find myself gravitating towards somewhat historical pieces pieces, that reframe the narrative from an indigenous perspective than the other is pure comedy. What is it about? History that appeals to you. I just feel that the American ethic hasn't been told, you know, we live in a false reality. Sometimes I think that there is just a number of stories that need to be told from all different perspectives. Especially groups of people that have not had the opportunity to tell their stories when you look at history, everything was based on western civilization, and the westward expansion, leaving a number of indigenous voices out, a number of African American voices out, number of all these other subgroups you know, within our nation that have a portal of stories to tell and I think that now we're at a time where we are ready to open up and hear the truce of different stories from all different races of backgrounds. I have a real passion for. Or history because I think all the gems are their shift gears from the programs, you're working on to your role as a producer as you look at producing in today's environment what you see happening in the industry from my perspective as an independent producer. I've been developing projects over the course of the last four years, actually, and I finally feel that we're at a place in entertainment in general, you know, there's lots of different opportunities because of all the various streaming platforms, we have an opportunity to actually get our projects produce much more than say the way it was ten years ago, even five years ago, you know, and that's due to all of the different streaming services that are out there and the past, it was always extremely difficult. Because you had to have an agent and you had to have connections. You know, within the industry to come in and pitch your stories. And now I think that the industry is opening up in wanting to hear from voices that they haven't heard under represented voices and talent that is it necessarily with agents or represented by age of. So I think that the industry's just much more open to a variety of voices in general. So as a producer and from somebody, I'm of indigenous background, it provides more opportunities for myself at least in terms of pitching or stories. So, so it's a good time. Distribution has exploded. But is getting funding any easier today than it was a while back, not in my perspective? Right now, I've been working mostly in development for television. So that's very different than producing features. It's still is about attaching a name talent even though there some companies, or others will argue that that's not the case. But when we are packaging our own movies, you know, it's usually, we can't go in without having a director attached, or without having at least a celebrity that could be driving the material and then everything else is cast around that I don't know exactly how numbers are quantified in such, but I think, you know, with international sales agents apparently, you know, celebrities still drive the. The foreign territory. So in that sense funding for films is still traditional in that realm. And then there's other sources of ways to fund films as well, and that's through even social impact campaigns and there's foundations and nonprofit organizations that are starting to fund seed money towards the development of feature films. These are smaller pockets of money, but it's enough for a producer to eventually cultivate, the story, cultivate, the project get it to that next stage of development, possibly attaching a director, and then eventually able to present it to a studio or network or other production company. Either way, I will say it is a challenge. It's, it's all about perseverance you really have to persevere and you have to believe in a project so much that whatever it takes. You're going to get. The project funded and completed, so you just have to stay dedicated producing during the rise of the metoo movement. Have you seen any change there? Well, I mean women are definitely coming together in ways that we have not in the past, we sort of have our own code of conduct between ourselves. So that way we know that if someone's crossing a line that we are all have decided to stand up, you know, and take responsibility for that. I think that it's helped us so that way, we're stronger together and United which is nice. And I think that because of me too movement. Women are women are really being more vocal in terms of how they feel about things and don't feel like their voices are suppressed or that they're afraid anymore. So it's a good time work all about finding the right story, especially from groups in heaven been able to tell their stories before, but media's also about technology, or the running took novelties that you're watching, and what? It makes them interesting to you. I'm really interested in more of the mobile technology, and how that's going to evolve in how content is eventually going to shape for that sort of smaller snacks ice screen. I just think that to me, as we progress into the future. More and more people are just watching content on their phones in their phones are getting larger, and you know, people are just consuming that way mobile EM. So that interest me the most you've Mutuel funding remains an ongoing challenge requiring perseverance it. If we exclude funding, what are the biggest challenges you have in producing if we exclude funding, well then it means I have to get another job. What would I be what would I do? I don't know. Let me ask my question differently. If funding was a short, what would be your biggest challenge in producing? Is it finding the talent is at finding the story is at schedules are, are need to be longer. What, what's the challenge? If funding is assured. Yeah. I think that, that's a really good point. Because even when you do have funding that is a next step, you know, that next step is finding that director that's on your wishlist and will that director except the project is at the right director. Is it somebody that you feel you know is a good collaborator with the rest of your producing team the actors that we approach are they available? What's their window? Do we can we afford them? You know. Yes. I mean, I think scheduling is actually a really big challenge. If you look to the future, what gets you the most excited inclusion? What gets me excited is learning and learning from all the different voices that are out there all the different subcultures voices from parts of the world that we haven't heard, you know, I love learning through story. So for me, I want I just wanna hear more stories from from people that we haven't heard from before. So that makes me the most excited for people who want to keep track of the projects, you're creating where can it go on the web? You can go visit my website at Yvonne, Rousseau dot com. That's all one word why. The oh and Yvonne Rousseau. R U S. S O von, Rousseau dot com. And she is an award-winning producer director and writer vaunted is always talk with you. Thank you for sharing your time. Thank you so much. Larry have a great day. Tom Jennings is an EMMY and Peabody, award winning documentary, filmmaker and term list, he has written produced and directed more than four hundred hours of programming for such network says CBS discovery National Geographic, and many more. Hello, Tom, welcome back. I Larry thanks for having me, Tom tonight. We're looking at the current state of producing and before we look at the industry. How would you describe the projects that you enjoy producing? Oh, I you know, I came out of print journalism background some kind of a generalist. I, I love finding great stories. I think the stories that I like to tell bass. Are ones where people think they know the story but actually there's a lot more? They're, they're a really good example, from about ten years ago, something that I had tried to produce forever was the manhunt for John Wilkes booth, the person that killed ABRAHAM LINCOLN, and most people know, the story that shot Lincoln and Ford's theater, and sometime thereafter he was killed. But there's these twelve days that he was on the run. And I tried to sell that show gears but I had a passion for it. Because when I found out about the story, it was amazing slice of American history that most people don't know anything about all the characters booth accomplice came across how they were hidden how they tried to cross the Potomac river with this amazing, you know slice of history that I didn't know. And I thought I knew history pretty well. And I just kept pushing it in. Pushing and pushing it and Finally, I did it and I still to the history channel, and then they said, Chee genius. So it's that kind of thing where you think you know it but there's so many more layers there. And it makes it fun. And it's you know it's great yard. So that's the kind of stuff let's take a step back up from your perspective as a producer, Aaron Semel Justice -scribed, our industry is being in a state of chaos. What's your perspective? I think I'd agree with their at some all about. Oba I it is state of chaos his correct in that, you know, it's the delivery systems that are putting us in a state of chaos, and that's kind of always been the case. I mean, you know, think back one of my favorite ariza's is the news, real era, which was killed by television. You don't have newsreels in, in movie theaters anymore. But now it just seems to splintering of the networks into, you know, five hundred channel universe. And then laying in all of the streaming services, SEO d you know, everybody's got a streaming service now and it's just become less and less. I think what's happening is we're losing that kind of national campfire say, you know, thirty or forty years ago, people would sit around and watch mash or all in the family or something. And I and most of your. Friends with no about what had happened the previous night on television. Now that doesn't exist anymore, gives us lots of choices and there's lots of places for producers to go to sell those choices. But what's happening more and more is with the splintering becomes driving down budgets. The need for a luminous amount of, of, of material of content to put out there and some of it's very, very good. And then some of it is, you can just tell that it's been thrown together. So trying to do good work in this universe. It makes it for me. I don't know about a Aaron some but I feel like a gerbil sometimes it's like spinning. What if we do you know how about this story? How about that? What John reselling selling over here. So, yeah. He's right. It's, it's like the wild west but the wild west seems tame. Two. While we're going through right now, you're focused documentaries clearly, but as you look at it, what either documentary subjects or show trends seem hot right now. Yeah. I and to be fair, we do mostly documentary television versus what people might consider documentary feature which would be more of a movie theater, like an arrow more or Michael Moore. But we do nonfiction television documentary television, and I'll tell you the one thing I can answer this very specifically for you. They want something. No one is ever seen. No one is ever heard before. But we're kind of burning out and I have a background in investigative reporting. And it's like, sometimes, you know, it's it may have been seen once before, but there's so much more to this story. But if you walk into a network executives office, or send them a note than Email, or something like that say, I just found this, and no one's. Ever heard of it. And it's going to change the way we think about this major moment, either currently in ours, guys or in history. They'll pay attention. They need something you almost have to, you know, we used to Larry. We used to say I think we've talked about this before we have to think like network executives. If we went to sell our shows to the network's I'm taking that a step further now. And I'm saying we have to think, like a marketing executive, we wanna do good work, but they need to cut through the noise, they use that term, we have to cut through the noise, and we have to cut through the noise, and what that means is they need something that's going to grab of you're right away and then hold them because it's good. One of the thoughts that Erin and Evonne both mentioned, and it's tied into the whole question of technology is one of the challenges we have now is that people are watching less, perhaps, on the large screen and more on the small screen like tablets, and cellphones. Does that change how you produce your shows? I don't know if it changes it in the big picture, how literally the big picture change. You know, one of my favorite movies from days gone by Lawrence of Arabia. You know there's very famous shot of Lawrence coming over the horizon. Evenly held on the thing for two minutes if you recall the shut them talking about where he's writing out of the desert slowly towards the camera and on a big screen, this is breathtaking art. But if you're looking at it on your phone on the subway, it's just not gonna read, you know, that there's no. And the reason I mentioned is for me as a producer or director, you know, something, there's no point in us going to all that trouble if someone's gonna watch that on their phone because it's just not gonna be impactful, I need to keep, you know, the hype hose connected to whatever device, they're on the things need to be a little bit closer in. You know, the story has to be moving quickly. I think it might have been errand. It was saying, you know, when he does sizzle reels. Now he puts, you know, words, onscreen sometimes thinking, like you know what you would see on Facebook, you know, when these little videos, come up where you have the option. Actually, I thought that was a pretty good idea for a sizzle reel. I was I made a note of that one, but you have to remember that people are being, you know, their, their being pulled in dozens of different directions all day long and you want them to park on what you're doing. And so, in terms of the content to livery on a small device, I think it is important to remember that. However I wouldn't keep it in the forefront. If, if I had some grand artistic shot that I thought was going to be so beautiful, but it was gonna burn, you know, three days budget for, you know, two minutes of film, I wouldn't do it anymore. You look to the future. What do you think are both our biggest challenges? And what gets you the most excited? Well, it's exciting in that there. There are a lot of opportunities. There are a lot of places to take your idea. You know, I have a lot of ideas and very passionate about just because I'm passionate about them doesn't mean that network will be or might network executive might be very passionate about it. But their marketing team will say that just doesn't fit with what we're doing. They're all going after branding, but the opportunities are there to do a lot of different things. Now. Now, which is great getting funding to do that. You know. You know, being able to follow through taking your ideal the way to screen whatever size that can be tricky. The exciting thing is that it's, you know. You know. It's the wild west, but, you know, we're all, you know, you get to choose the horse that you went to ride on. Conversely, you do have to remember that you're trying to tailor to various audiences of various ages, all up, you know, different networks when appeal to different age groups, and you wanna keep people entertained, and, you know, in documentary want to keep them informed. So you wanna tell a story where they're gonna draw something out of it, but you need to keep them entertained the same time. And so that has always been the same, you know, that's existed from the beginning and it's just convincing viewer that what you're about to watch is not going to be boring. It's gonna be something visually that's going to appeal to you. And if you learn something along the way well all the better. And for people who wanna learn what they haven't heard or learned before working they go on the web thousand you got. We have a company website. It's eighteen ninety five films. That's the numbers one eight nine five films dot com. And Tom Jennings is executive producer for eighteen ninety five films. Tom, thanks for joining us today talking about. Here's another website. I want to introduce you to dot news dot com. Doddle news, gives you a portal into the broadcast video and film industries. It's a leading online resource presenting news reviews and products for the film and video industry. Donald news also offers resource guide and crew management, platform, specifically to sign for production, these digital call sheets along with their app, directory and premium listings. Provide in depth organizational tools for busy production, professionals dot com. News is part of the failure arts community, a worldwide community of artists filmmakers, and storytellers, from the target of filmmaking performing arts, fine arts and everything in between Salo is filled with resources, you need to succeed, whether you walk the latest industry news need to network with other creative professional's spur require state of the art online tools to manage your next project. There's only. One place to go. Donald news dot com. Jerry Kelly is twice. Emmy nominated director and correspondent, he's also a senior producer explore which is national geographic's flagship documentary series whose work as taking them to all seven continents, and he's currently hosting an adventure series for the travel channel JJ welcome back. Larry great to talk to you. Get I understand we're catching you in mid airport. So clearly, the traveling does not stop in the middle of the week. A little bit crazy from the start of the year. I found myself up in the Bering Sea, and the last guy just got back from Tokyo and Seoul. And I've been the many places in between and right now I'm watching the sunset over the beautiful Kansas landscape. Well, I would begin to say that I feel sorry for you. But actually, it sounds like a really great life from my distances opposed to having to live. It. I'm having fun with it tonight. We're looking at the current state of producing media, but before we look at sort of the industry, how would you describe the projects that you enjoy producing? Thank you. I work in documentary calibration for the most part, and even a dialing in that John the more I focus on exploration adventure and off the beaten path locations spots, like Antarctica, the Congo kind of places that nobody else really wanted to go to places that I love. Okay. So let's take a step back and view the industry more as an industry and a business rather than the specific shows that you've done from your perspective as a producer what you see happening in the industry, and to give some background. We talked with von Rousseau and Erin summer'll and Jennings. And they all describe it as an industry, which is a mesh in chaos. What would you think? That's not a completely horrible description. I think that's actually pretty spot on. It's changing a lot. I remember when I was a kid and I turn on the television and the president of the United States was talking, you put three or four or five channels, and the president was on every channel, you got the same thing, and then we saw other doom with cable television networks and then screening services where there were all these different companies and anybody who had an idea could come up with their own network and their own content. And you had all these kind of taylormade productions there were bailable on all these different platforms. And now we still we still have a lot of those backwards. You're being consolidated you have next next this juggernaut who is just clipped by Disney as largest media company in the world. So you're getting back to the space where you just have a handful of companies running everything. So it is a bit chaotic. And within that battle. We're still seeing traditional broadcast and cable getting a lot of advertising dollars. But at the same time, everybody's talking about digital and what it means to be digital based, and everybody wants some of that. So how I align myself in this nebulous landscape is to diversify myself any good for polio to make branded content at the same time that I'm working on a traditional cable series. And, and kinda my I look at those as my stocks, more risky investments. And then kind of bond to safe investment is educational videos, because education doesn't change on the whims of an executive decide they wanna Canna show direction generally, those are built a little bit further out, and they paid just as much a lot of times as your broadcast program and they're stable, so I think that yes, landscape is chaotic, and I think one of the keys. Is just diversifying and knowing how to make the traditional broadcast, but also just dabbling but finding success in digits on tents and then adding your bread and butter that no matter what happened, you can still depend on those sorts income. We're seeing that people are consuming media in ways that are different than yours past. It used to be. We'd watch on television or go to the theater and watch on the big screen. But now the small screen, tablets and cellphones have a dominant presence in a lot of the industry. Does that change the type of programs? You create. Yeah. I think it changed type of programs. If you create, you know, I was listening to the show, and I agree that content is king. If you still have a good idea, it's going to my viewers, but the delivery, platform changing length changes, and even what you put on the screen needs to change, depending on the vice it's being viewed right now I'm working on a series with a major US airlines, where we're going out into the world and you're looking at a sport, and the kind of changing face of that sport. So it's branded content and branded content is going to be you'd and bailable on Instagram on Facebook. So original content just like I would make four National Geographic or documentary network, but it's going out through a new medium, and that is social media. So it is it is changing quite a bit. Barron made a comment that a lot of videos, people are watching, but they're not Listrik to them. It's the social media video where you see video with text and the audio is irrelevant. Is this a threat or is this a splinter or what's your thought? That's a great observation. I think that it's spot on. You know, I mentioned this series I'm being for Instagram and Facebook, and we have two cats file closed caption, file that you've put or viewers were hard of hearing and they were able to talk all we've all seen, or you're able to talk between no captioning and suppose captioning. But now it's a new format where basically if you're does not have the audio on. They're going to automats. See text on screen. So I think that, that is the new approach with Ford live in New York City subway fare about this week, and I would always gonna cure over at people next. The ozone YouTube. They watch videos on Instagram Facebook, but they have text on screen, and this is Texas offered to them. And they're kind of, I'm not exactly sure how much of the reading, but that is delivery methods, they may or may not have headphones in, but you definitely need to be able to communicate not only with traditional text on screen that you'd add, as Chiron in the video, but also as kind of layer, that's put into the video that we talk on and off. A lot of what you focus on is content because you create documentaries, but is there technology that you're paying attention to or as new emerging technology? That's caught your eye. There's a lot of value in coming up with this story, and the program that has a traditional out. But hyping that outlet and promoting through free platforms like social media. You know, I think you can do a lot with Instagram live, and was live and Instagram video to really point to your video as I remember when I started in TV just twelve years ago. And when we went out on the shoot, and we have through Facebook coming up signed documents that we would get yelled at people would get fired. If you posted any photos from that shoot before the show would be broadcast. That you couldn't put any of it out. Any time that you captured couldn't go out on social media Intel that episode aired and then you have to wait a next week for the next episode aired and then you could talk about content from that shoot as well. Now it's complete opposite as you're out in the field. Your light streaming what you're capturing. Their, you're creating an impression of this story, idea, creating content as you go along. So you're able to sell ads sales that way. But then when the film comes out you're getting money that way as well. And you built up this hype along the way where people now know about your show, and they're more likely to walk. As you look to the future. What has used the most excited? And what has the most concerned? I am excited because I do think that we live in this amazing era of video production. It's changing so much that. I think that we couldn't have foreseen where we are today. You know, remember blockbuster video remember how many stores there were blockbuster video gone. You know, and I don't think that, you know, fifteen years ago anybody would've thought that, that somebody like blockbuster would be on, so it can be incredibly unstable just in the car that I'm writing. And now we're talking about Kodak, and I'll that company went from a monster company to really, you know, this is your me company and that happened just a very short period of time. So that is a little bit terrifying. But that's also the same thing that brings me a lot of excitement. Because with these changes guests, some of the streams of livery methods have tried up, but in their wake have been these amazing ways. Tell stories you need methods going to interesting locations and not being reliant on just handful networks that we used to, you know, depend on. So I think it's very exciting because like one of your callers said before. If you can come up with a new idea something that's spread audiences and networks are gonna want that. So what's really exciting if you have any idea and a new delivery methods and you've kind of got your fingertips on the pulse of what's hot, then you're going to see? And if it's new and fresh and goes big you can win. Exciting. Exciting stuff JJ for people who want to keep track of where you are in the world, where can they go on the web? I always have fun. Yup. I'm at JJ Kelly dot com. From there, you can find the on Instagram, Facebook and all that stuff. That's J. K. E. L. L, E, Y, check Kelly dot com and Jay Kelley as the senior producer for National Geographic, and thanks for joining us today. Bye bye. You know, I was just thinking I spent yesterday getting trained and certified in the Dante audio protocol, this is a well established protocol invented by auto Nate for linking audio devices, and sending audio over Ethernet rather than traditional audio cables, we call this a oh, I p audio over I p. And automate, is an industry leader in this area, the class got me thinking about how technology expands our production horizons, for example. And those of you doing live sound at concerts, and events already know this. We can connect Mike's and other audio sources directly to eastern it using converters not just mixers microphones. Then we can send that audio signal anywhere within the same networks up net. For example, using the routing built into Dante we can send the same Mike to the state. Mixer front of house mixer livestream broadcast mixer all using Ethernet using a gigabit Ethernet, switch, Dante supports sending up to five hundred twelve different audio sources to up to five hundred twelve different audio destinations all using Ethernet the flexibility of the system is truly impressive no longer do we need to locate audio control rooms next to a studio nor for that matter. Do we need to dedicate one control room her studio? The new age of digital audio networks and protocols like Dante allow us to configure control room space to pawn, the work thing to do rather than the location. They need to be in. It was a fascinating day of learning for me. I've used Dante as part of our enemy coverage for the last two years on the buzz. But at that time, the system was set up by others. Now I better understand how. Use it myself. The training yesterday was filled with thirty audio professionals almost all of whom were mixing or recording. Audio on a daily basis for corporate events. Churches live streams and broadcast. It was fun to spend the day learning from them as well. I've spent time on the buzz raising concerns about technology, but yesterday was a day to celebrate, how technology can enable us to do things. We couldn't do before without costing anyone job just something. I'm thinking about. I want to thank our guest this week producers, Aaron Semel Yvonne, Rousseau JJ, Kelly, and Tom Jennings. And as always James Rupo with Donald news dot com. There's a lot of history industry at it's all posted to our website at digital production. Buzz dot com here, you'll find thousands of interviews all online and all available to you today and remember to sign up for our free weekly show newsletter. That comes out every Saturday morning talked with us on Twitter at DP, buzz and Facebook at digital production, buzz dot com. 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"This is Gary Shatskikh. I'm a fee only financial adviser and we'll share my thoughts later in the podcast on minimizing risk in the current market. More to come soon it this market. It's still Let me just say that you ain't seen yet the absence bounce back and forth. They'll only gained free points. That'd be advancing point one percent that's coming into a percent but boy was it hot at one point after we got the outline of phase one trade deal. China president in trump has agreed to lower some of our towers in exchange for it. Looks like fifty billion dollars a year and agricultural purchases couple of other unknown industrial deals and some much firmer protections against intellectual property theft and currency manipulation. And those last two pieces please. You've got to understand. That's what the United States AIDS is fighting for the real deal. We need from force against Chinese companies exterior patents and trade secrets. China's swerve cursing relation the actual purchase. I just I don't know I assume case it's been Katie. Let me tell you but I want to make this really clear. And he's not with this back but we've got to spend some time on it because people are going to talk about. China has a history of not following through with its trade minutes. And this time we've got powerful enforcement mechanism. There's still going to be a twenty percent tariff on two hundred fifty billion dollars worth of Chinese imports with seven point five Levy one another one hundred twenty billion that had been cut. Even as this weekend's planned tariff hikes have been axed see if the Chinese Communist Party breaks the deal you should expect to see those tariffs to go right back up so still for now. The deal seems to be happened when we come in on Monday. All right. We're going to find out exactly. Who are the lucky winners from this Chinese he's largesse? We know China's in desperate need of pork right now. They're pink population is produced by fifty five percent based on metric tonnes not pigs themselves by the incredibly infectious air-borne African swine fever. The devastation continues in their backyard. Farms for most of the pigs are raised and they don't have the standards that we can stop the illness so the price of pork has shot through the roof in China and they'd been living off their frozen pig repositories which cannot lasts forever. It's an emergency in China and that's causing a lot of steel. That's why SPEC some very big hog purchase more important. You're beginning to see American American hog farmers building out new supply. Something they'd been reluctant to do in the middle of a trade war. Now we've got a phase one deal. It makes sense for them to expand their capacity and by the way there are many any different states. I know voters are concerned about this. Manning receipts that have hog farmers the fisheries of what I expect to be a gigantic deal unless China wants massive hog inflation which we should hear about these deals very early remember Tiananmen Square. We think it's only about fema speech but it started out as about food inflation so the Chinese are worried. If poor prices are headed higher US investor might be thinking about buying Tyson foods. That's the leading protein play that also sells chicken and beef and they will become work competitive because because believe me if this if this deal's announce the price of poor countries go up dramatically. We still don't have enough details on. The dust financials and energy companies that we blessed Chinese spawned. But I'm sticking by my belief that the credit card companies the large banks slumber J.. That Suo Service King. And some of the larger machinery plays we'll see a short-term short-term boost. I wonder over all those yesterday's show. The list is still around now. How much goodwill tweaks between the two countries as big big time Chinese Communist Joe in law once said about the French Revolution too soon to tell he was hilarious but the level of genuine anew in goodwill might not even matter in fed ex reports on Tuesday for the Clovis because anything's better in the predatory that these guys have been stuck in? Yeah they had to build out in China and they haven't had enough commerce to show for it. The future looks brighter with a preliminary trade deal. But certainly that's it. I fix a bit of cereal. Disappoint her. I'm not saying the quarter will be any good at all in fact. I think it'll be awful but the socks been clobbered so much that I'm betting can rally says something. Even mildly PAS about trade. We also hear from Cintas Plymouth at these guys saying nasty things about them. I love this uniform company. They got a terrific. Read on the pulse of small and medium-sized business and different uniforms. By the way they handle restroom. Supplies is entrance mats all sorts of really boring things. It's more enterprises need replace regularly not that long ago called spruce point capital published. A piece. Make you all sorts of allegations about this company and its conduct. I buy it. I'm expecting quarter from CINTAS. Thanks to robust business growth but the embolden shortsellers could make this a real battle. Roy ow and remember how I felt. I told you I said about about typical battlegrounds. I said no people think and people who who think. AH YOU DON'T WANNA test this minute. I appreciate that people hate me because I said I like this. I appreciate you too speaking of small and medium size although I want you to losing your fantasy football league in and get rude get. Your head clocked on Sunday that Wednesday we get results from paychecks. Okay the payroll processor of choice. These smaller woller operators. They've cut your medicine in the state of the economy houses. What's really going on well? People didn't care much for that last Qu Earth. I told you it was buying opportunity right again. That sound a bit. I was reading this if patients pulls back once again. Please before the quarter I would do some by. Oh by by the way the stock is so consistently been great and the analysts still really do dislike it one more one more. I really like. You won't feel Herman Miller they make this fantastic air ron chairs. I got one for my wedding. Someone gave me a wedding present with all sorts of other Hyatt. I and office furniture. The there's a wedding person for an Aaron Chair will face for to the kind of stuff companies by in a tight labor market to attract talent employees they by Herman Miller chairs. That's what caused. What's the upside last time? They don't 'cause it again but we also get results from one of the most controversial contact place which is Micron. The commodity sending maker occur which doesn't think it makes commodity semiconductors because essentially so hard to make these days. I am begging right now. Let's listen to me. The guidance is going to be different from what they say. The headline there headlines. Go to save Blah guidances. What's going to move? The stock by cards been buffeted by everything from Chinese espionage to Glutz in both keep keep products Indira's flash memory. I think companies finally coming out of the doldrums. It's talk you to give it a much. This is not the ideal time. Did you survive. But let's say this ducats gets it on Monday off the fact that hogs weren't bought or Tuesday because fat but you know what I mean if it gets hit because some program selling you too late to trade then you probably want to buy some Mike Grimm now lately. We've been seeing some signs of life in the package good segment so we got a couple of reporting general mills took a hit the other day but it brought the stock denver flu percent yield. I expect good things cereal and I think the pet food except blue buffalo really expensive stuff made America. That said if you like the food. Stocks I prefer periscope with is terrific snacks and beverages. Could cause no slouch either by the way to percent you speaking him. Food Conagra reports on Thursday morning. Will this be the quarter where they finally get their act together. stockman volatile three percent yield tempted to buy some before the quarter. And maybe after smart guys and how about the restaurant business. We're from Darden the parent company of Olive Garden and a bunch of sports hanes and while the last quarter was was good. It wasn't good good enough. I found the conference call little to existential as in. Why do we even need this company given an olive garden growing like used to then I remembered that olive gardens terrific chain that offers great value? Which is why? I'm actually going to get a good number. Don't forget Darden's remarkably shareholder friendly. I'd like to invite them on this show please because I know they like it and they watch it and we share the love that we share the never any sellable persuasion. Sometimes it's business is this really is as easy as it seems. And that's feel about the stock Nike reports Thursday close hence wipe the hitting all time high today. The trade resolution with China because Nike Shoes. Shoes over there. I remember. Footwear is going to be part of the Times that that was supposed to have this weekend. Let's stop comes in before the quarterback is I think it's worth by father me how the auto and RV RV markets are holding up. We're GONNA find out what we hear from Carmax used car retailer. They've been doing quite well and win it. Based on what that's been amazing Karma sucks up fifty percent for the year. What what a bigger nearly double with employment strong I think they both have room to run? They had been Dan announcers for awhile. Interesting list about a month now. They've got a face trade trade you with China we can go back to focusing on the earnings. And you know what I think next week with exception Fedex. We're GONNA see a lot of victor in Florida. Victor how you doing Jean longtime listener first-time caller big Miami. Dade County Bo. Ya well there you go. Don't at the export you Jim this morning when I was having that. Kinda Anna Bizarre. Inner change with my friend Buddy Pal David favor and I said this is the stock to hedge from one stone the Freeport copper. Which of course they did by Phelps Dodge that's PD PD announce? Pays your duty Jen Takata. So here's what I say. I say if you buy that stock your trading wham and Jemma mode and I'm not GonNa get into women Channa when I was in my pajamas I used to do but now I'm a serious investor and report is for pikers. Let's go to Dustin in Arizona. Dusty Mr Cramer. How you doing having a great day? How about you I'm as well. Thank you my question. I have diabetes for a few months and looking at other health sector stocks it seems like cancer diabetes shuts extremely well off at the last year almost would be well off lately. I wanted to know what your thoughts were to stock. Something's going on in that stock is up three. You're down three every day and it is nauseating people I will tell you that I I like Benjamin. I liked the product but if you WanNa sleep at night got to go with Abbott Labs and if you want to choose to go with decks com how about Adam intensity. Yeah Adam Hey geno again. I Don Longtime Fan there. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. What's up a ged beating few three estimates and both revenues and EPS along with the UBS analyst recently saying that twenty twenty year for them right? Finally todd turning in the stock. I WANNA keep expectations. His Damn I will tell you that I think Larry Great Job. Duty to see some sort of Boeing. Pretty good numbers but anybody who buys to eat here. I look I ever since Larry sorry came in. Yeah Larry go out when I do I. It's about friends in money. Whatever you want Larry's good and turning around and the naysayers? They say they're going to have to pound sand and they're going to have to wear bags over the heads GonNa go by headquarters wherever it is all right we can finally go back after all this craziness and I pour. Keller we start focusing on Bernie's although remember visit deal involves Palm Okay and the need to ADS The desperate need to put in place in China that no other shows up leaving any time with more retails for way to fight back against Amazon. 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You might consider to ensure you obtain the growth you need at a risk level you understand and can tolerate ways to minimize risk or not new diversification low fees low volatility but the current environment cast CDs bond funds and lower volatility stocks in a new light fixed annuities ladies are also a straightforward option. Consider offering a fixed rate of return and maturity date and in most cases a high level of safety the advent of annuity provider fighter selling online might provide more competition and higher returns before making any investment decision about a fixed. Annuity is a fit for you. Evaluate the rate of have returned risk time horizon potential penalties and tax implications part of this ever made the cloud based software stocks. They've started come roaring back in the fourth quarter. Take Anna in a plant which has a software as a service platform helps businesses with forecasting financial. Planning somebody's very useful and increasingly uncertain. World thanks to its recent movie in unplanned stock is now up more than ninety percent for the year is still down nine bucks from its highs of summer. I think it could have more room to run the company just reporters versed on quarter a few weeks ago so ticket. Coastal local Frank Kell Renews Chairman. CEO of an plan to give better since of house companies. Doing and where it's headed. Mr Calderoni welcome back to money. Good to see frank the Frank I saw you right on the eve of the IPO. And I remember the pricing around Seventeen Bucks and I know your background and I knew the business plan and I said to myself. How do they arrive at prices? Seventeen with this man who is going to drive this company growth. How did that happen is in many ways? That's kind of bargain. That people really need to find well. That was over a year ago and we had a I thought it was a great price from Itami perspective for our shareholders at the time time the VC's investing in investing in the company and then also from a market perspective. You know the the best thing I felt going through the whole process. Was You want to make sure you get the right unbalanced Price so you have an ability to Kinda then go into a public market shoulder results and see some improvement. I think over the past year as you said we've had now four or quarters since the IPO that we've been able to deliver consistent and growing top line and also improvement on our bottom line which is a good message. This is really important people. The billings accelerator. They were already forty six percent. v V fifty nine percent. How does how does someone go from point six percent you know percents acceleration? Yeah I think it's it's kind of the space that we're in right now. I mean if you think about the the backdrop and also you know SAS companies in total the the whole digitisation is really starting to accelerate. Now even this is a global phenomenon I was. I was in Japan over the summer to and it's interesting to kind of see where the Japanese companies are really kind of advancing their focus on digitization so I think that as a backdrop is forcing companies to take a look at what they're doing on the planning space right and so we're taking a you know we've got a great platform that we can offer great value in a reasonable amount of time for companies implement in an plan and then also accelerate. And that's really what's driving our growth. We're increasing the number of customers. The customers that we currently have are continuing to add to the use of Anna plan within companies. And so it's great to see okay so of the three that I thought were most significant. You've got China. Pharmaceutical company drug development got huge airline. And I know that so you knew red hat murders Delta before and then you also have my thought was really interesting was a customer in. The consumer packaged could space. Now I'm thinking of all these different things change enough at these different companies. Somebody has to update the plan every day. So I think some people feel like planning ending is something that you do on an annual basis and you may update on equipment allows companies. That what we do and then we kind of complain about Eh. What do we do? But I think the the new world and it's going to continue to change is real time planning right. It's making you making decisions on on a daily basis and so you need information to be able to help support those decisions and that's what we do and we try to move companies from that old historical way of planning to the new way way you know you just mentioned. CG Company Packaging Company. They're big customers of ours. CPG retail and why. I mean they're all dealing with the ability to kind of have online sales in twenty four hours right. I mean my own personal example and Thanksgiving morning. I put in order with one of the large retailers Here in the US. And I was amazed the next morning Friday morning. It was at the doorstep and that's not Amazon. We know that Enron could do that now the others so everyone's no one's really trying to compete with that and having insight as to what's going to be ordered how they're going to deliver what's in the whole supply chain is critical and that's why we're seeing cosmetic has medic companies beverage company spirit companies. There will using Anna plan across their supply chain which is great news infant today budget to trend so to speak speaker. They've had a couple of bad four days would their lines and show that they've got a they've got to be worried about a potential shortfall whether they can and they could also do somewhat this. Yes right that's a big part. We have modeling capabilities. So what if what if different mix of product Happens like next week right in the middle of the holiday season if they had a look at some different trends in the first two weeks and they had been changed that how do they modify their supply chain based on that new information to ensure that at the weather it's online or at the retail outlets. They have what they need to to meet the demand. I think you must reading it now. Unfortunately I wish are being facetious. I've been on many worked with many companies. He's and I was thinking that away criteria now at I should be asking people. Do you do this kind of dynamic planning. Because if they don't then they come onto the board meeting. The board of directors are shocked. And it's already too late and it's ex- exactly. That's exactly the problem so as you know I've spent my whole whole career in the planning stage. Sure I've lived through different phases of this evolution. I'm a strong proponent. Now I think over the next five years ten years. There's there's GonNa be a dramatic shift and we're starting to see that and really what's happening in planning and we're talking about companies that are fifty years old and an older that are are making that pivot digitisation as I said before is is one of the key drivers now you were closer to salesforce. So how would you integrate. What they're they've see their sales people doing with the top guys do about their plan? Oh it's perfect. I mean it's most most of our customers high percents I'm saying way over. Ninety percent are using salesforce and they're also using complain. We actually have our tabloids because you do all your crm and then you pull Anna Plant in to do some of your other modeling and it's very integrated which is perfect. I wish everyone everyone who had a chance to be in business because she would know that. This is a blessing. Banana plant I and I would be able to say a board meeting guys. We just get this thing because you view. We don't have a clue about what do I just wish. I had it five years ago ten years ago as doing some of the things that I've run. It's remarkable anyway. This is an indispensable product that didn't exist and indispensable man who's been in a lot of great places Sprang Calderoni. The Chairman of Anna plan again always very transplant its parent lots of great stuff. You can learn about it even from the earnings call from November twenty very insightful. Everybody's back there and all those whose burst predictions about the trade war turned out to be wrong. Devastate your bank account. Instead they'd been mostly isolated in on. I'm back for the the reason. Rally just give you a series of. I'm GonNa tell you what to do. I'm going to tell you. GO LISTEN TO THE COSTCO conference call from last night this company. I believe the top of his class when it comes to everything from the lowest prices to work a retention too high quality produce with private label products that are regarded as superior to most most national brands and it just keeps delivering after delivery. If you somehow been living under a rock and you don't know Costco. There were America's largest retailers by sales. They've got a hundred million dues paying members. I may regular my wife's an executive and those Jews are what keep the prices so low but crucially costco carries a farce more more variety of items in the typical big box store that thirty seven hundred products Walmart. Two hundred twenty thousand. That means Costco can pick and choose. If they think something's too expensive. They skill with down really switched to a cheaper alternative but not sacrificing in quality and that gives Costco scale they move a ton of of course a relatively relatively small number pox scale management's creativity faces almost a non issue for this company according to see it for Richard Glancy who runs an amazing conference call a tutorial when it comes to the tariff. He's he says quote at the end of the day. We think we've done as good as anybody. In terms of being able to mitigate the impact in quote gluttonous quote. I think the fact that a quarter of a quarter Martin's generally speaking even department's like heart license. All flights have been slightly up your ear and certainly haven't done that without first and foremost being the most competitive out there end quote in other words. They've actually been able to keep their margin. Have Prices Low. That's not supposed to happen with tariffs. I also got the sense that every time. The trump administration administration raise tariffs on Chinese imports. Costco typically find a privately. We'll turn from somewhere else around the globe. There Kirkland brand which I champion is cheaper and better better than what the Chinese make so. It's not like it's more much hardship switching. But you know what. Even if I didn't have all the scale. Long in the mitigate the damage it it may not even matter these emergent Sumer consumer is so flush that we're seeing tons of major discretionary purchases retail glodij caught up big ticket item talking to especially electron ix including full price offers apples accessories high end gaming computers video game consoles big screen. TV's all stuff that was going to have big tariffs on it this weekend and GonNa what happened. This is of course. He's perfect. Cosco two major website glitch that caused sales and support while back today. It's easy to not throw mine. Purses offerings craze Walmart or target. But you know what only figured out what makes what matters to me is the Costco's business model works perfectly in a trade war. Oh and you know where is working best. In the globe. Shanghai yet cost recently opened a store for over there and it was bobby closer so busy. How things does Shang Opportuni glad? He points out that the average costco locations serve sixty to seventy thousand member hassles. Some of the Asian locations serve one hundred thousand one hundred twenty thousand but there's high store it's already gotten more than twice those numbers. That's extraordinary ten the day. This company's biggest China problems that they're twenty five million people in Shanghai. One Pasco sounds to me like a terrific investment these for for owning costco stock for years and years to come Mamie in New York may yes. Okay Kim Dan I K- I own shares of Alibaba which purchase back in May. Okay so is it all about the tariffs then our roller Lakota. I noticed every day they gonNA do the terrorists to stop goes up character through the Sophos down. What what the deal? We'll man business. Oh strongly air data huge singles day. I would. They are doing incredibly well. It's the only Chinese stock that you I know. He's got to really well run company. So I like Alibaba. Let's go to northern Minnesota. Norman yes Kim yes about. Ten years ago Sherwin Williams took a big hit. You came on the air and said don't worry the only reason went down is because the market went down don't do said by Sherwin Williams so I bought her at forty seven dollars. A share today is five hundred and seventy five dollars share. have he got any other advice for me today. I am Dan you listen now. Of course the cattle steer ten years ago was a lawsuit in Cincinnati lost about lead paint and people felt that their lead paint. Is She was going bankrupt. Then I'd spend a Lotta Time Sherman Williams going over the legal documents and did not seem it should be bankrupted into stock therefore took off and deserved served get it's deserving place in consolidate the industry. They've been able to raise price but most important. They're great guys. Congratulations and stay long. Sherwin Williams civil S. H. W. Costco's bottle works perfectly in a trade war. Oh any of our is costco. Works best in China. But we're met. My dad was not then teen seventeen as Lewis was born back sought from her most radical plans in the healthcare front. Why are the company's Position Yourself? Why are we doing with the CEO and nearly one in four US households include someone who suffers from migraines? Tonight am I in under the radar but in my head biotech player that host to play to help and by the way. It's actually migrate. We dropped the s on the American migrants relations. Folks for trust me rapid-fire tonight's the lightning rounds so stay anyway Kramer. Ever persist Democrats. Running for president started backing away from Medicare for all the health insurance talks fix credible claim. Seventeen which administers all sorts of government sponsored third healthcare plans. Here's this doctors from forty one dollars and it's lows in early October. Two Sixty one zero this month for pulling back to fifty seven right now including the one point four percent today. Why did send team get hit with? The company rolled out at twenty twenty guidance to today's investors many the earnings forecasts was a tiny bit light. But I don't know it try studied the forecast. I think it was just misunderstood. I think stocking get its newfound momentum back so let's say Michael Nine. The chairman CEO of Seventeen get clear read on his company's. Oh please positive out of welcome back to make money Fitoussi my wonderful right now. I try to tell people in the business for a long time when you read headlines and it. Says so-and-so forecast late whatever there's no way that they could have gone through all the stuff which I then have to go do and realize wait a second. You've got this change with give give something you. CVS is the change in Carolina. That you give your totally transparent Ma'am but there's no way you can do. That was a shortfall. It just doesn't no. It's not apples to apples. It was not sure he said the state of North Carolina postponing. WBZ -servative October. And that's six cents. A share web development cost five hundred million in revenue. That's beyond our control. All the other numbers are there we on the marketplace place the. They thought that it'd be like we still have one hundred fifty. Two hundred fifty ads are big barker to growing. I reminded the PIMM study. Not that in declining markets the leaders gain share. That's just what we're doing right doing very well. Let's talk about you being leader. You made a series of acquisitions uh-huh and you went from being a company that I think people have said well. That's a peripheral company. You are now providing coverage to one in fifteen Americans but when I do my the polls that I speak to a lot of people say Humana yet. How about you send teen canteen seventeen? When does your name catch up to your size and your growth? We've talked about that and we're GONNA do some more marketing to get caught up but at the same time the population we're dealing with noses and that's that's really concert. We have a good continuity they stay they stick with us the marketplace people that recommend it we just had our Texas. We came in number one in every region. All twelve regions with the highest quality with Highest Justin member provider satisfaction. So at the end of the day we're growing significantly now. Can you continue to grow your number. Never twenty-one bond deal you're paying four point seven five you know Sir incredibly low but are you going to start running into any trust because you have bought a lot of companies and now. We're starting to see antitrust getting active like we haven't seen very long time in our business doing with the Justice Department right now on Welk Odio radio right if you think about it. The states decide how many players they want. You know I could sell us that I could do an Peter Marr and all the whole field changes ages they set the rates. They set the quality standards. So it's not a typical they sit down and think about and trust issue because tomorrow the State he says you know we think this anti competitive we could add two more play right right and then freeze our membership and he gives the new players so any trust is not the same in our okay fair enough because I know that. CVS Takata Gift from you guys. But that's what you have your close deal. I understood that because what happens in Chicago where we have eight hundred thousand lives. They wanted one more competent. One more in the south. And let's find all right so let's talk about the field. It looks like that somebody realize is what you said would happen. You said on air that Elizabeth Warns Plan was way too expensive. Then people would actually see that okay. That apparently is exactly what happened. I think so. And Even Elizabeth Warren backed off and said I'm GonNa do it my third and fourth which we know people tend to supposed to get it done. That'd beginning if it's hard but I think it's very important America. The only way you contain cost in a single payer freight was hauled service. And I'm I have to prove this in confirm I think for example country Canada has fewer. Mri Machines and the whole city of Philadelphia. Yeah I picked Philadelphia Okay but but people have to understand that means you break your ankle. You're not getting your MRI that afternoon. The other emerging you know what I'm saying. Yes almost fighting for that. Are That's right and you know it's really important. In in Europe there are people are asking us to open surgical centers in the former Eastern European bloc so people if they knee replacement they need something. There are some countries that outside of the their own country doing more open heart procedures than they are in the country. You can't get them done. It's unbelievable I think Americans will start to realize that and they won't be very happy single payer now I totally agree. It's just one more thing about your size. I've got a great market expansion. The slide in your financial guidance you. There's a lot of states that are not seventeen states yet. Should I suspect that grizzly that maps gonNA get filled in. There's a few breath or no. We're up in Oregon put but you know people don't like when I say there is some of those states in the upper midwest I that is probably more animals than there are people that need healthcare. Oh okay so we have to do is find a way to consolidate and have one plan that covers three four four or five states the good states. But they're kind of sports. You got to find a plan to let people know that you're up there with Humana and CIGNA AETNA now. CVS In with United Health. Because you're gross better and your stocks went cheaper. I couldn't agree more what we all right. That's Michael Chairman. CEO of seventeen guys. I don't want to overload. It's about two hundred pages but it doesn't take long and the speech that might go get very crystal clear about why the company's doing well if moneys back here it it is difficult and then the lightning round is over. Are you ready skewed. GEICO John John. I'll give you out of here. How do you WanNa talk to you wait too long John? Hope Sacramento's hanging in. What's going on buddy? I got the Hudson bumper to see our owner stare. Warren Buffett Compete. The stock is breaking out my Charleston. Why am I not put that stock better? Let's could've been Pennsylvania Brinson jimbotalks blow up dot E. G.. I what do you think which one do you see again it. I mean I. It's newspapers sorry. Forget it Jake. Newspapers Operation New Jersey Brash. Hey Jim Lama longtime sometime. I tried to watch your so most of the days also acceler plus club member. Cloudy thank you. Ah I I will call you Mr Cramer start doctor you can dissect penny stock really nicely. I wish I could thank you. That's very tight. A lot of my feet. Thank Sean Industrial Thought. You know what. China's cereal disappointed in my eyes. I don't want you in the stahnke. Okay rather see you. In the United Technologies or honeywell catch tried has let me down too many times. It's cheap but so what Kevin in South Carolina Kevin Jim Flexing therapeutic up almost storm fire. It is on fire. What are they doing? I don't know the stock is to for me. I gotta do work some of these tech stocks. I gotTa do the work. And Marin we did the work stocks going up and feel good about that cat cat in California who yeah Jim. I watched the every morning and then I want to thank you. Thank you of course I'm looking for re through my retirement account and in the past two then cod ticker guitar isn't still taped by That that they had a quarter that was very That was a shortfall. What they said they were going to do? Dave then they're meeting and they lowered the guides and frankly It's in the penalty box. People know that I like depth Cafaro and I think she's done a good job. Just mentioned one of my books but that that was not good forecasting about the company by the company and so I can't in good conscious recommended when they seem to have lost their ability to to took up to really present the wrong porteous so there. I am little sour one. Let's go to Kate. What am I gonNa do not about friends David in New York David? Hey Hi Joe. I was wondering about the Stock Duke. Energy was going up up over dukes. Good I mean Duke's got four point to do consulting there okay like AP. I WANNA send pro. Allied December two and that lays inclusion of the the lightning round is sponsored by. TD AMERITRADE for decades Alzheimer's disease has been the white whale. The Bio Pharma Industry. Everybody's looking for way to treatment but so far nobody's had much success so whenever company seems to be making real progress. You better believe. Wall Street takes notice. That's exactly what happened last week. When bio pharmaceuticals a development stage biotech company focused on neurological conditions? Nasr at their face to Alzheimer's drug had passed eight futility analysis me they started the results determined it was worth continuing to invest in the darn thing while this drug tro real IOS all trails. Good enough only the symptoms of the disease. That would be a huge step of what we have now. Wow which is like nothing and bio haven stock is ward the picture months because it is and also because of a novel anti-migraine formulation we gotTa talk about that too and could be the real deals and therefore the stock could have a lot of upside. So let's dig deeper with Dr Vlad Quirk Bio even pharmaceutical holding Aubrey to learn more about these drugs. And what they mean for the future Dr Walken and money. Thank you very good to see you. Okay so I've never many more bio and regular Pharma people and they've all said the same. which is Alzheimer's is just too hard? biogen biogen. Just got bounced around him once. It was good. Why can bile haven even have a chance when J. J. hadn't been any success I jim? Thank you for having me. I'm sure you appreciate being here. Alzheimer's is a tough disease. And we have to do better. And we can't stop trying and so last week you saw we had the results are in from futility yes it's very encouraging. We had an independent panel of experts. Review the first six months of treatment one hundred patients who finished therapy and what what they told us as a study should continue and it was only two ways we could pass that futility analysis that was if a patient improvement on cognition or improving on biomarkers mark of Alzheimer's disease would show you the plaque receding and the person's head in our interim futility analysis. It was focused on hip cancel atrophy shrinking of the the brain. And what we were told by. This independent panel is a study. Should continue because we pass those end points now. Are these people with early onset or are they older. What how you select these people? These are patients with mild to moderate Alzheimer's disease. So we already know they have the illness. And there's this is still it's been identified that they have and it's not not something we would take it and hope that we wouldn't get correct. That's right so clinicians are really good. Identify people who already are at that stage. It's not like the early forms the where it's hard to diagnose the duck to Tilleke this stage. How many others have gotten to the stage? And then what's going wrong the other times that that we don't ever see anything in in the pharmacy. Well we're focused on a new approach. We're focused on margin glutamate. which is ner transmitting the brain? That's been tied to the generation of Alzheimer's. It's a different approach. Some of the other companies companies are focused on lowering. AMYLOID or lowering tally. We believe if you correct the glutamate problems you might have a chance to make. Problem is is the most exciting Tori neurotransmitter your brain when you have too much of it your neurons start to die are drugs. Really's all just normalizes those glutamate levels and brings them down to a lower level. You got another That's important this afternoon either. Completely raging migraine night's been fighting through them for many years. Just part of my life so I take a suggestively mutual fund bars doctrine human into medicine. I can't really take only one or two of them. They're really bad for you but they allowed me to be able to be have a total concentration and be able to put my my rent side for a little bit your drug a possible replacement this ancient trunk frankly is very inefficient Howitzer. It's being thrown at something. I only need a rifle shot. You're exactly right Jim. 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Haters and Humanity (Fighting Failure w/ Sarge EP #5)

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Haters and Humanity (Fighting Failure w/ Sarge EP #5)

"Yes. Hong Kong off off Hong Kong home one thing about life is that people in life there the ultimate Puppet Masters, they exploit your weakness in their love to walk you around life and own space in your head when the biggest ways to cut those strings and walk on your own too fucking feet to your own destination in life in to build self respect and self esteem some discipline. All those things. They hard is not just about going to fucking Jim stay hard is about going that way anybody can that's the build self-esteem and self-respect. Less success in life comes more haters don't make him hurt your feelings use them for fuel use them for energy in times of need them. Put them on the fucking mental Rolodex in your mind. It means don't want to do shit Walter your brain pull up that motherfuking that you need that person said you couldn't do something. We're fast enough good enough smart enough for the energy. It's kind of cool number of tires towards you a bunch of success. There might be under continuous push the past the odds news everything. This court has to give you for a few months stay hard. Hey, John, you move would be a normal to try to find exceptional people are going to like that simple blower people. It makes them feel like shit still judging their fact. It's very easy to be a fucking shower why we got Instagram and shit. So tell you to your face. They go online and post about like our office director of getting a fucking hair. Make sure you do you say art. I'd rather go ahead and get better might be the same. When you are bigger being called back growing up supposed to make money as shit, whatever you want as far as motherfuker throat and people get matching black poet tell you right now my power that person. If you Repeat Boutique on make sure you use that don't exactly know look for repair. But for the fun record em almost driven growing up. You might be the wrong, you know, come looking for funny like when they do is you gotta suck looks like a fuckyourself motherfuker finding the weird electric affecting your brakes. Bring all of them. Thursday we're rebuilding going off. The YouTube guy once was a Navy SEAL. He went into the Navy said I want to be a Navy SEAL. He was a young kid 350 pounds. They said no way come back and when you lose a little bit of weight he went and lost over. 165 pounds and got himself into shape went on to become a Navy SEAL and a huge motivator and I listened to him quite often if you had already do me a solid everybody looks like it's slim pickings tonight. But how are you folks are there that are in the chat already Christopher? How are you? Karen? Great to see you. Whoever's going 365 what's going on in Larry? Great to see you as well and many more people in the chat. Thanks for joining us tonight. I want to talk about haters and humans. Actually haters and Humanity. That's what I'm going to be talking about tonight before we get into that want to give you a couple updates the websites going to be released in January. So you'll be 65 live broadcasting. Com website will be up around January February time frame. And of course, if you are a patreon member, I want to remind you to please check the page on every chance you can get usually you'll get an email when there's an update and go to the patreon and be a part of something special over there already for those of you want to be a patreon member. I give exclusive content and in January into the rabbit hole, which is a conspiracy theory show is starting back up and that will be for Patron members only as a great show we used to do about conspiracy theories that will be coming in January cannot wait, I can not wait, so You guys know those of you that are close to our show that are close to myself and close to Gary know that we have our share of haters. Okay, and I want them to talk about this this specific topic today because it kind of hit home again with us right now. For those of you don't know there's another show called toxic and Brash kind of our Outlet. That's our release. You know, that's our let's let's make some fun of this. Let's make some comedy about this, you know, so it can we can feel like we've anything that's our venting a no apparatus so to speak for that and to tell you the the tell you the truth, everybody has experienced them haters in their life. Now whether it's family, whether it's friends, whether it's coworkers colleagues, you name it at one time or another you've you've experienced haters. Tell me in the chat have each and every one of you that are in chat. Have you ever had an experience with haters before I bet you everybody of a chat is going to say yes, I especially especially since the invention of social media and Technology haters is quite prevalent. They are a quite prevalent. I didn't ask if they bothered you just asked if you ever experienced it. Haters are even more prevalent. Now than they've ever been. So everyone in life has haters figuring out how to deal with haters is really kind of tough. But no matter how hard you try to ban them to accommodate two, please and sometimes you know, how no matter how much you try to mind your own business. There's always going to be there is always going to be people who don't like you. There's always going to be there's always going to be Pete's that just despise you that just dislike you and want to sow the seeds of Chaos. In your life. It's it's it's quite evident, especially with the with the invention of hey Gary with the invention of birth of social media, especially Facebook, especially now that you see that both sides of the fence and politics are very polarized. You see haters left and right and yes Karen, they just can't let it go. We're going to talk about that in just a minute Christopher says Everyone likes you Sarge. Well, thank you Chris Rock appreciate that. Not everybody. I wish but not everybody some of these haters, you know, they'll tell you tell you to your face others will show you through their actions. And usually talk behind your back these people use the level to which they can, you know, kind of manipulate and control your emotional whether as a kind of a temporary bandage for for the cancer of their own insecurities. What I just said, they're basically was they are so insecure that they use you as a premise to bandage their wounds to bandage their cancer their their own cancer and they're and they use you. They utilize you or you in general. I'm speaking in generalized terms here as as a way to put a bandage own insecurities. Listen, you could be dedicating your life to the most you could be dedicating your life to a worthy cause all right a selfless cause and and there will still be people who they undermine you they hate you they make fun of you gossip about you behind your back. They backstab you we've been through this numerous times and not attempt to tear you down. Recognizing these people and being able to first talk about what a hater is and then learning about ways to combat that to effectively off to effectively understand how to deal with haters, which will talk about later on in the program here. Is something that I believe everybody should learn how to do. And it's and it's something that that a lot a lot of a lot of people like myself even Gary Alex and and a few of you here in chat who've had the displeasure of experiencing our hate from those other people. You understand that hate comes in all forms, whether it's talking behind your back whether it's talking in front of your face, whether it's it's, you know, trying to to in my case. It was my show trying to undermine my show and destroy my show off and Destroy friendships. Remember yesterday. Actually, I gave a a tip a Tuesday tip on this I said that when we talked about trust I said it takes years to build and only seconds to destroy. The same thing with haters. I mean you could be the best person in the world. You could cure cancer. Look at President Trump. I mean if you want to do politics look at the president even a past presidents, they've been off the chart block and have millions of haters worldwide. So you can have a long history with this person. These people will steal from you. They'll stock with you. They'll stalk you while they criticize you why they critique you and what you do, they'll stop at nothing to try to destroy you and your reputation. No matter how well you know them don't know them or how loyal you've been to them. They'll always do this. You could have a long history with this person. You could have been you could have been good to them. You could have been generous with them. You could have trusted them and then one day they turn on you. But in order to deal with haters, you gotta first be able to determine who and what they are. number one You got to determine if the person really is a hater. Okay, repeat after me when I say this not everyone who disagrees with you as a hater to properly deal with it later you first got to know whether or not someone is actually a hater or whether they're just simply disagreeing with you. those folks who challenged your way of thinking who engage you in debate who recommend improvements to your content and I'm speaking in regards to this or whatever you're doing in Life or maybe all took opposing point of view are often friends in Disguise, even if they are a bit brace of Gary, They could still be your friend. So you have to determine from the get-go who the haters are and who they aren't recently. I had some really great debates with some folks that are left-leaning, you know on the political sphere and we didn't agree on a thing. Of course, he critiqued me on a few things and and so on and so forth. We later on became quite good friends. And of course now we both have a mutual enemy in common, but we found one had become really great friends and we we found out that we had a lot more in common with each other than we originally thought and how soon Could we understand if we could learn to just put politics aside how much more human and we'll get to that, you know at the end of the show here cuz that's my latter part of the show. May I talk about humanity and how much more human we really truly can be a leader now. Listen, you know what I'd say haters is you know, the ACT. Well, I I have I made up an acronym p h a t e r s having anger towards everyone reaching success because basically if you think about it the haters that come into your life, what do they want to do? The main objective is to try to make you to try to make you think that you're something that you're not they try to destroy you. They try to manipulate you boy. This this is not the biggest thing in the podcasting industry is manipulations from other podcasters. I was a victim of a yes I said victim Bingo Karen jealousy plays another huge part in this so they want to destroy because they are jealous. They don't have what you have one thing that those other folks over on the other side scene. I had all these close relationships just tight-knit relationships with people I built a nice big brand. I had millions and millions of reached throughout the world. And they were jealous. They didn't have that. So what did they do? They started manipulating the people around us. They started manipulating the first thing they do. It's up here on the first thing they do. They start talking the little birdie in your in your ear starts to say hey. Hey, Gary. Did you see Sergeant show today? You know he talked about this and that's just stupid. I'm guilty of this recently, especially recently one of the show. I'm guilty of this as well. But see there's a difference. Between how I do things and other people do things if I hate job. Generally, I'm a very canderous person final like you I'm not going to talk behind your back. I don't tell it to your face the final like something that needs doing or final like you as a person or if you said something that rub me the wrong way. I'm going to tell you I'm not going to beat around the bush. Yeah my talk behind your back a little bit, but I'm going to tell you to your face. So whatever I say to your face home or whatever. I say behind your back. I've already most likely 99.9% of the time said to your face. But not a lot of people are like that. So the little birdie in your ear keeps talking and shopping trip trip trip trip trip trip trip. Did you see Gary? Did you see this? And the thing that happened recently was we had hamsters who got jealous because Gary and I had gotten close I invited him on as a as a co-host my old co-host got jealous while just so happens at my old co-host could never commit to a show. So that was a Gary's phone. That was his fault. My old co-host was never prepared during any of the shows. Gary was it wasn't Gary's fault. It was his fault We meshed a lot better than the other person did and it was not either of those person's fault for that. It was just how it was. So for somebody who couldn't commit for somebody who couldn't be prepared they decided. To go behind our back and sow the seeds of dissention the vision. Unfortunately for them it backfired. And remember where I said you could have a long history with this person. You could have been good to them generous with them trusting them and then one day they turn me that's exactly what happened. I traveled 16 hours to go see one of these guys who I thought was a very close friend. I trusted with some of my most inner thoughts. Who I trusted with with things I normally wouldn't tell a regular, you know person that I that that I just met. So you see these people can be close to you. So first off you have to determine whether or not they're a hater. Okay haters oh off haters. And and here's another thing you gotta remember about this haters. They'll they'll often offer. You absolutely nothing of value when conversing with them and they will take everything from you. I was again I was a victim of that with these other two people my old co-host and and a guy who run a show that I would happen to be close with they would take my ideas and and steal them for their own. Fail miserably added of course. And then I wouldn't like for example, he would call me and say hey, what are you talking about on your show today? And I was hell I'm going to talk about this this and this and this and this cuz I used to follow after his show and lo and behold when his showing live boom he would talk about everything that had already prepped for. However, I'm good at what I do so I can ad lib. So I'm the one that actually came out on top and look better in that return. Again, another way other times hate will come in the form of a joke. Trust me, and if they always tell jokes at your expense, it's really not just a joke. You hear these guys go. Haha. Just joking man. I'm just joking. Haha. I'm just joking. No you're not. You're not just joking. People that do that to you. These are the haters learned to determine who the hater is. I trusted. a lot of people Ted Bob Jeremy Zach Zach was the one that hurt me the most but I ended up getting over it eventually cuz time does heal all wounds. And one thing that I want to say look where they are today. And look where we are today. Then I'll tell you. Who survived this battle this War and who came out as a success and who did not? We did. We will always come out. I always say I'm the winning team. On the winning team. I always will be. And it affected me it affected me a lot because I trusted these guys one of them Bob I trusted as a leader. I technically would have had my life in his hands. Should the proverbial shit ever would have hit the fan. And again he turned. Way before I even found out about it. The bottom line is You know, I deal with these issues in a different way than most people do. But in regards to the podcasting industry is really it really is a Cutthroat industry and a lot of folks that are out there in these job the job World also have a very cut-throat industry even life itself is very cut-throat and trust me ladies and Gentlemen people are jealous of your success, whether they're your close friends or not. There are some semblance of jealousy. I know gets jealous of me at times cuz I'm much sexier than he is. So I mean, I would be jealous if I was hit know but but seriously folks that tell jokes or expense there. Most likely not your friends. Hence why I'm writing the book Cutthroat. It's about that industry. So How do you deal with these haters? Knowing how to deal with haters as one thing. Actually applying this is something that I'm still working on each and every day it's hard. Sometimes I can't even apply any of any of it most of the time. I don't even want to change end up doing it. Anyhow. If you are a patreon member each of you get a discount on my book and when the hardback of my one book comes out you all get a free copy. I'll talk about that later remind me about that later on Caroline before the show's over. Most of the time I don't even want to apply these things. I don't even want to do anything because they do drain you mentally they drain you physically they drain you emotionally and they don't starve they bombard you left and right they're constantly kidney punching you and they're constantly backstabbing you. I have so many arrows in my back or wounds in my back from from knives that have been shoved in the middle of my back that I couldn't reach. They are relentless. But you have to be more Relentless and we'll talk about that a minute on how to deal with it. When I get into the steps. So little by little though I do do it and in the process, I interned build my own self respect because believe me respect and loyalty and integrity and trust them the four pillars of friendship to me or four pillars of Brotherhood and Sisterhood me. There are people that haven't even met in real life that I trust more than some of the people that I have met in real life figure that one out. So in retrospect in the process, I build my self respect and in that then I start to see the results in my life because I'm no longer a paranoid emotional accountant. I'm an unbothered unfuckable Force unfuckablewith for sorry. It was more anxious to get to the light at the end of the tunnel than to just try to age sit there and crying and and be blind from the temporary shade thrown it you by the haters. Because it's all is pain is temporary. I want you to understand that I want you to repeat after me. I want everybody to type this in chat pain is temporary. Pain is temporary. Pain doesn't last. Part of this is the pain that you have to go through. The pain that you have to go through to get where you're going to be successful. There are always going to be obstacles in your way haters are one of those obstacles. I'm going to tell you how to deal with them. today What's up, Alex? So little by little it's a process. You'll get over it. You just got a chip at that obstacle little by little piece by piece until it falls apart and crumbles. That's right. Caroline said pain is just a short phase. I'll get over it off. She's right, and I know it sounds easier said than done. But it's the truth. If you look back throughout your life and all the painful moments you had Didn't it usually follow up with a good moment with a less painful moment with perhaps a triumphant moment or very happy moment. So you have nowhere to go but up. Panes temporary everything in life is temporary. The only thing that's not temporary is taxes and death. I put a little spin on that for myself, but I don't know what my daughter's cooking upstairs, but it smells delicious. I'm sitting down here salivating. So there you go. I found a little bit of happiness in the pain that I was talking about by little by little chip by chip piece by piece you Whittle through it and you get through it and there is light at the end of the tunnel. 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I just just got it in the mail today. So I'm happy about that. I did the test about two months ago, and I've been waiting for the results. I got my therapy certification and of course I Ami certified life professional development and empowerment coach. I currently coach five people very successful people and I have a couple of slots left open. So you'll want to reach out to me and find out what I'm about and find out if I can help you email me big Sarge at 365 the the war or the Office 365 and then live broadcasting. Com that that email address again, it's big Sarge at 365 the numbers live broadcasting, 15 minute free consultation. You can't go wrong. So ladies and gentlemen, if you need to get pushed in the right direction or if you need some accountability needs somebody just to be there to give you a to be achieved her to be on your team to get you going in the right direction or you know, somebody send them my way. Okay send them my way. I'm I'm really enjoying them. In these people. I think I found my calling in politics was a good thing for me. I really, you know was really good at politics. But since I've been doing these coaching sessions with these with these folks, I got two females off three three gentlemen and two ladies and three gentlemen, and they are they range anywhere from a CEO of a of a pharmaceutical company s a major pharmaceutical company all the way down to a housewife. Okay, and and trust me just because you think a c o o is is higher than a housewife you are mistakenly wrong. I have learned a lot between all of these five people that I'm currently coaching and mentoring and and I am so happy that I'm a part of something special in somebody's life. So if you have any questions, you want to have a free consultation reached out to me. I'll be more than happy to help you. So, how do you deal with haters? Number one what anyone says or does to you good or bad? It's a window into them state of being not yours. Remember that let me repeat that what anyone says or does to you good or bad is a window into their state of being not yours off. It's never about you. It's never a magnifying glass over you. Okay. This is all about them. What is about you is the level to which you believe them? Am I making any sense on that and let me repeat that? What is about you? If I can remember this what is about you is the level to which you believe them. So if you believe that they actually are telling the truth in some certain circumstances. Then whatever that level of belief is for you then that part of it's about you. Everything else is not it's about them. It's about what they want to do. It's about what people say and do it's about them. It's not about you take a look at what makes you mad and what gets to you and why wage then aimed to rewire that belief system. In other words. You got to look at it with your haters do to you the throw they throw shade at you whether they're completely bombarding whether they're talking behind your back. You gotta look and you gotta you gotta be able to rewire your brain and an instance like this and yes, it's hard. It's not easy. I'm still trying to do the best I can with it and like I said toxic and branches my outlet off. Okay, but you gotta take a look at what makes you mad. All right, and then what gets to you and why you got to look at it and ask yourself. Why does this get to me off? What can I do to make sure that I can rewire re hardwire my brain and I've been I'm doing this actually right now with one of my clients. It's it's so man. It's so great. I can't talk, you know, of course the condition of anonymity with with my clients. I can't talk about them or or tell you who they are. I can tell you give you examples of things that I've experienced with different clients, but this person is is is doing the same thing haters are are bombarding this person and I'm getting that person over this hump. And one of the things that we're trying to do right now is wrong wire their belief system rewire that that system in your brain that lets you think that it's okay for them to do that to you and the only way to rewire that is to replace with the belief and have some consistent and concerted patterns which are usually made up of actions that negate that negativity in other words put some more positivity in your life. Look at these things. Look at these things that they say to you and that bothers that that bothers you and then try to find a way and say, okay. I don't know why this bothers me like this is she can bother me like that and then try to start to rewire your brain and before you know, it it'll start bouncing off your chest hair and says, you've got to remember, you know yourself and you know what your intentions were bears-packers is just opinions. I'm not sure what bears is but she said Bears is just opinion. Maybe she meant there's is just opinions. To know how to respond. Listen I'm different than most people I drop nukes on them and forget them. That's what I do. And I do a best. There's no way that doesn't better than Gary and I we drop nukes on him and then we bust a move but that's not for everybody. Okay, but you gotta know. What's the best way for you? To have a response. Okay, you could tackle it head-on head-on or you can learn to grow from it, or you can learn to ignore it. And yes taking the high road is allowable and it is plausible taking the high road is very plausible. So number to know how to respond number three, you took their hatred of you to fuel your success. This is one of my biggest motivating factors, but the only thing with this is when you run out of haters, if you just thought she rarely use their fuel to fuel their hatred to fuel your success and you end up running out of haters. Then you get into running out of fuel so don't rely on the haters to just be those people that fuel there's many more circumstances. They can feel your success but I use that hatred and I use it to fuel my success. I used to hateful actions and words and and I used to prove them wrong. And they are wrong and they always will be wrong show the rest of the world how evil they are and how successful you are. I got to Karen I got you. Yeah, it is their opinions and you're absolutely right. So yours their hatred the fuel your success. I do it every time I get up in the morning and I say you took this guy did this guy said you know what I'm going to prove him wrong he's wrong or she is wrong or they're wrong. They hate us because they can't be us. That's you know, I don't know what else to say. Yeah, exactly. Gary must have my notes in front of them. So use their hatred to feel your access your success number for just straight ignore them don't acknowledge their existence. Don't even talk about from live like they don't exist. A better tactic is to let yourself feel that momentary blaze of anger and square your shoulders look directly at the hater or their comment or whatever bothered you and give them a strong simple mental send off. haters one of the things that I always say is dear haters. I have so much more for you to be mad at just be patient. And believe it or not and you hear the fact that it's all haters are gonna hate no matter what you do no matter how you try to persuade them haters. Don't really hate you in fact of hate themselves because you're a reflection of what they wish to be or become. It's the truth. And you guess what haters are always the ones that scream the loudest remember that and again remember my acronym for haters having anger towards everyone reaching success. So that said about haters I gave you some ways to to to look at see what exactly a hater is and I've given you some options on how to and there's many things that you can do. As a matter of fact, I'm developing a class on how to deal with haters because it seems like a lot of my clients have a lot of this in common. So I'm developing a class actually wage. Then I'm going to be selling later on that will address this and and help people cope with the hater mechanism. Yeah, because you know haters are bullies, you know in Disguise wage certainly are okay. So I read something today. And this is going to tie into my next topic about humanity and how we can become better human beings. You know, I read something today, which I'm going to read to you guys that really that really touched me. And I said, you know here on one end we're talking about haters and how much they want to destroy you and ruin you. Hey, Russ what's going on? And then on one end why why do we always see negative? Look what's going on in Philadelphia right now? Look what's going on around the country. Look at the polarization that's taking place between the left and the right. Look at the hatred because of because of your white or black or purple because of your religion. Look at all the hatred around the world. We never never thought spend any time on our Humanity. Yeah, you heard that. We never hardly ever spend any time being human beings. So I read this today and I was like I have to share. This with my audience. And this was a gentleman at a fundraising dinner that serves children with learning disabilities. He was speaking about his own son who had a learning disability and it touched me and faith in ladies be ready to shed a tear. So at a fundraising dinner for a school that serves children with learning disabilities, the father of one of the students delivered a speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended after extolling the school and its dedicated staff. He offered a question. He says when not interfere by outside influences, everything nature does is done with perfection. Yet my son Shay cannot learn things as other children do he cannot understand things as other children do so, where is the natural order of things for my son then the audience was course quiet and then the father continued he says, I believe that when a child like Shay who was mentally and physically disabled comes into the world and opportunity to realize true human nature presents itself, and it comes in the way other people treat the child. So he told the following story said she and I walked past a park where some boys Chez nous were playing baseball. She asked do you think they'll let me play that I knew that most of the boys would not watch one like Shay on their team. But as a father, I also understood that if my son were allowed the player would give him much-needed sense of belonging and some confidence to be accepted by others in spite of his handicaps. So I approached one of the boys on the field and asked not expecting much of shake could play the boy looked around for guidance and said we're losing by six runs and they came as in the eighth inning. I guess he could be our on our team will try to put him in to bat in the ninth inning. She Shrugged over to the team's bench and with a broad smile put on a team shirt. I watched with a small tear in my eye and warmth in my heart. The boys saw my joy. My son being accepted in the bottom of the eighth inning. Shay's team scored a few runs, but we'll still behind by 3 in the top of the ninth inning shape put on a glove and played in the right-field. Even though no hits came to Thursday. He was obviously ecstatic just to be in the game on the field grinning ear-to-ear as he weighed as as the father waved to him from the stands. So this disguise the the kids just ecstatic. In the bottom of the ninth inning Shay's team scored again now with two outs and the bases loaded the potential winning run was on base, and she was scheduled to be next to bat. At this juncture do they let Che bat and give away their chance to win the game surprisingly. She was given the back. Everyone knew that a hit was all but impossible because she didn't even know how to hold the bat properly much less connect with the ball. However, a che stepped up to the plate the picture the picture on the opposite team, of course recognized that the other team was putting winning aside for the moment and Shay's life. He has moved so he he moved a few steps to lob the ball in softly. So Shay could at least make contact. the first pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed the picture again took a few steps forward to toss the ball softly towards Che As the pitch came in sweat Shay swung at the ball and hit the slow groundball right back to the picture. Now. Normally the game would be over the picture would pick up the ball and throw out the first space out where the pitcher pick up the soft grounder. It could have easily thrown the ball to the first basement. She would have been out and that would have been the end of the game instead the pitcher threw the ball right over the first baseman's head off of reach of all his teammates everyone from the stands on both sides of both teams started yelling. Ronshay run to first run to first just bring a tear to my never in his life had she ever one that far but he made it the first base. He scampered down the Baseline wide-eyed and startled everyone yelled Run 2 seconds Shay run to Second catching his breath awkwardly ran towards second gleaming and struggling to make it to the base by the time she rounded towards second base the right theater filled or had the ball the smallest guy on them. Who now had his first chance to be the hero for his team. He could have thrown the ball to the second baseman for the tag, but he understood the pitchers intentions. So he to intentionally threw the ball high and fine over the third baseman's head shave ran toward Third Base Delirious as the runners ahead of circled the bases towards home. All of them were screaming che che che che all the way che che reached Third Base because the opposing shortstop ran to help him by turning him in the direction of third base and shouted run the third month as she rounded third the boys from both teams and The Spectators were on their feet screaming Shay run. Shay run home run home. She stepped on the plate and was cheered as the hero who hit the Grand Slam and won the game for his team that day said the father softly with tears now rolling down my face the boys from both teams helped bring a piece of true love and Humanity into this world. They didn't make it to another summer. He died that winter having never forgotten being the hero and making me so happy and coming home and seeing his mother tearfully embraced her little Hero of the Day and now a little footnote of the story. We all send thousands of jokes through the email that a second thought but then it comes to sending messages about life choices and people hesitate the crude vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace but public but public discussion about decency is too often suppress in our schools and workplaces. We have thousands of opportunities every single day to help realize the natural order of things. So many seemingly trivial interactions between two people present us with a choice. Do we believe in humanity? Or do we not? May your day be a shade a day. Isn't that something else? A piece of humanity in the world. I'm getting tears down down my eyes right now a piece of humanity. that these boys that were out in the field of very competitive sport decided to let their guard down to make another human being feel good about themselves somebody who could not necessarily be on the same field as them and playing because of his disabilities, but for one one day, Out of this young man's life. Made him feel like a hero. God bless you say wherever you are, cuz that story really touched me deep and really touched my heart. How soon? We realize that we sit here and concentrate on the haters. And on the people that would rather destroy us. When there is so much more good that we could be doing. So much much much love that we could be spreading around the world. All it takes is for you to be kind. All it takes for you to is to care about and help others everybody in the world has their own issues if we all through our problems in a pile and saw everyone else's we grab bars back. And like I said before 80% he can complain about all you want by eighty percent of the people don't care and 20% is glad it's not them. Be grateful for what you have. Every morning and every evening, I do something called affirmations. If you don't know what it is look it up. I don't have enough time to explain it every morning. I'm grateful for the things that I have and every night I pray and I am grateful for the things that I have. I'm thankful that I'm alive. For those of you don't know I'm a two-time cancer survivor. I am more grateful than most people are that I am alive today because twice death was supposed to take off and I survived so be grateful for what you have. I worked hard for everything that I have. I'm grateful for my house. I'm grateful for my studio for my family first and foremost my family. I'm glad about my health of grateful about my health. I'm grateful that I have a car that can get me to point A to point B. I'm grateful that I have internet that I can convey a positive message all over the world, especially to my listening audience. Gratitude begins in our hearts and then it kind of does dovetail in the behavior after that. It almost always makes you willing to be of service. Which is where the joy actually does reside in servitude and and I don't mean servitude as in a bad way. I'm talking about serving your fellow man. It means that you're willing to stop being such a jerk when you're aware of all that has been given to you in your lifetime the past few days past few months past four years decades, whatever it is. It's hard not to be humble. And sometimes it's very pleasing to give back and that's what I'm doing. I'm helping people. I help when before covid-19 to volunteer at a veteran homeless shelter and talked to Veterans with PTSD. When I had the the chamber the the veterans Chamber of Commerce here. We were the only institutions in central Pennsylvania that that had a 95% job ratio rate every every 95% of the veterans at walked in that door. We gave jobs to I was able to do that. So be grateful for what you have. Enjoy every day. Like it's your last. Yeah, it's got a sound a little bit cliche, but yesterday's Kong isn't here yet. In fact tomorrow might not even show up. You don't know. So what's the sense in dwelling on the past or the future live in the moment? We're all dying. Let's live each day to its fullest why not? I've worked hard trying to live this way over the last couple of years and it's made my life so much more enjoyable ever since I had gotten cancer and I've beat cancer. This is what I do. This is my Mantra I live and I am try to enjoy life. Yeah, there are days where I'm stressed there are days where I'm depressed there are days where I get out there. But live each day like it's your last. worry less Buddha said if the problem can't be solved. Why worry if the problem cannot be solved worrying will do you no good case closed. Like we always say if it ain't broke don't fix it. So why worry about it? I try to tell my wife. Why are you worrying about something that doesn't happen that hasn't happened yet. Why are you worrying about something that could potentially happen that hasn't happened yet. Don't be a worry wart. Love more. Yes, love is so much easier to do than hate and you know, it takes less muscles in your face to smile than it does to frown and besides what makes people feel good. Can can we not just love our fellow human beings for being human and while we're at it? Let's throw an animal's to I guess cuz a lot of us have family members that are animals. There's so much hatred in the world people hate because of the color of their skin because of their political or religious beliefs or what have you but here's a news flash folks. We're all human being home. Love is the only thing just like Marvin Gaye, I believe it was a Marvin Gaye song only love can conquer hate. And listen set the example for those around you and for your kids too many parents berate their kids for certain behaviors that unbeknownst to them were learn from Guess Who You children are the most impressionable beings on the planet. So set the example be the example because like it or not you are your children's biggest role model. And I want you to understand one thing being rich involves much more than just money our society so hung up on the whole money money money. Material material material people were off credit card debt left and right just to keep up with the Joneses, you know the deal. Oh, he's got a new car going to get a new car. He's got a new new whatever and I got to get it keeping up with the Joneses latest off Electronics gadgets seems to be a status symbol for a lot of people sure we all need money to live, but I would rather be a rich emotionally than Rich financially any day of the week or or both. And listen just do that. Listen, sometimes all people want is someone to lend them an ear and listen to what they're saying. Whether it's your child whether it's a friend, It's a friend who has a maybe a marriage that's crumbling. Maybe it's someone that's having a rough time. Someone seeks you out and just wants to talk to you just commit to listening listen to what they have to say when I used to volunteer at that homeless shelter for veterans. That's what I did I listened. And last but not least it's hard I continued to struggle with it, but learn to forgive. It's probably the toughest thing on the list. I struggle with forgiveness and I continued to struggle with forgiveness of struggle with a four years and so many other people do as well. I bet you a lot of view and change as well. That's right breast be the change. You want to see in the world? But there was a quote by Anne lammot that finally convinced me that forgiving was a was better than the alternative. And she said forgiveness means it finally becomes unimportant that you hit back you're done. It doesn't necessarily mean that you want to have lunch with a person off keep hitting back. You stay trapped in the nightmare forgiving isn't about making the other person feel better guys. It's about making you feel better. So be kind care about help others be grateful for what you have. Enjoy every day. Like it's your last worry less love more set the example being rich involves much more than just money, listen and forgive. It's simple ladies and gentlemen, it's simple Humanity being human is a given but keeping our humanity is a choice. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining me today. I hope you had a great time here today. I talked about haters in humanity. And again, for those of you catch us live Wednesdays at 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on Tuesday. Please check my friend Russ and Nick and Russ don't know anything podcast out as well. Great. Great podcast create their I try to catch them as much as I can. And of course Gary's on Friday and toxic and brushing on Monday both at 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time and you get depth of perception from Alex curse project. It's on Tuesday at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So a lots of things coming up here in the near future stay tuned with us hanging there with us. You'll see some great things on the horizon ladies and gentlemen, so let's to you and remember ladies and gentlemen, right this and chat whatever gas tanks. Good night everybody. off the block

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The Interview - Larry McDonald: "The Cobra Effect"

Adventures in Finance: A Real Vision Podcast

50:38 min | 7 months ago

The Interview - Larry McDonald: "The Cobra Effect"

"I am Ash Bennington senior editor and crypto editor at religion. It's the biggest question in the world. Are we ever getting back to normal life or is it time for people, businesses and entire industries to rip up the idea of normal and adapt to life in the cove it era? On September twenty first on real vision, we're starting a two week journey to figure it out. Our has everything changed series features experts on everything from aviation to hospitality to how we work to. Of course markets. The lineup is extraordinary including Leon Cooperman Dmitri Valley asni Keith were boy Hugh Hendry, and many more. They're all joining us to help you find a path forward and you can watch everything for just one dollar just visit real vision podcast dot com that's real vision PODCAST DOT COM Larry, let's get you back. You'll in lockdown empanel other side of the caravan, but we're both by. Two or Manhattan Pals now where different parts of the world but that's that's the new world. Outside right now. So I just want to catch up with you because you've been kind of. Changing some changing some thoughts adding Seattle. So I'd love to get an idea of how you'll think about us because. These markets got everybody scratching their heads you either. Our momentum trader and believe in total believe in central banks or you're kind of stuck on the sidelines right now. So talk me through what you're thinking about. Well, I think something very powerful happening around. Equity Valuations in what's called the dividend discount model. And say Terminal Value Model SO in other words, tech stocks for the last five years we've had a really hard core very, very certain. Hardcore certain deflation environment, and if you think of companies like Netflix's are all all the cloud stocks. There's a huge group of stocks that a really priced off of what's called terminal value and that's your say net. Netflix's doing right now twenty, five, billion, a year of revenues that's up from twenty billion a year ago, not from sixteen billion, a couple of years ago. But what the Terminal Valley models do across Wall Street is they take the twenty, five, billion in they incorporate that over ten years, and so if you have certain deflation. Certainly deflation that cash flows worth a lot more. But because of the Cobra fact we we wrote a blog on our website bear traps dot com about covert by noon I can get into that. But because of the Cobra back which is. Essentially unintended consequences the certainty of people Asian has gone from you know like literally hundred percent certainty over the next five years to maybe fifty percent certainty and that I think is starting to shake core of tech some tech stocks and I think it it could be really Substantial drawdowns for these tech companies because of this kind of valuation problem I, mean it sounds like they're trading those super long hunted deer bones where exactly if thinking about nets lakes ten year cash right now they're doing twenty, five billion and you take twenty five percent growth this just a huge long stream of cash flows Microsoft. Same thing. So what I think the the fascinating thing about this is you can make the case in a certain search and hard for certain deflation environment that these stocks are worth. Thirty to fifty, maybe sixty times earnings. But if you go from hardcore certainty to uncover uncertain deflation the the Marcus probably going to revalue these companies. That say twenty to twenty five times earnings back in two thousand eleven, Microsoft, traded I think it's six fifteen times you can sit when you look through and I've been focusing on this is when you look through and spit the market down by those that have debt. Particularly high debts or involved in that spank soul triple be rated equities. Numbers are going up. But when you look at anything with the law free cash flow, no dad I mean it's a whole different world is like this infinite appetite for this stuff? Yes and so. Right now and you and I have been talking about this on twitter and you've mentioned a bunch of times right now the the momentum stocks and say big tech and these cashflows are trading at a four standard deviation freeman four standard deviations, which is absolutely incredible premium to the value companies and what what happens is if we go from a certain deflation environment and we bring in all this fiscal policy in thinking about the last ten years, we had austerity in the United States we had the tea party, and now we're coming to a world of really KLOPP Yetlis with Democrats and Republicans both sides are forcing. More fiscal at people. You know this universal basic income all these new changes around the world in until you've gone from a world where equities were were valued with one hundred percent monetary policy and as they talk about my book. Villier Lehman Brothers everything was valued by monetary policy. Now, we're going into monetary one fiscal world, and so I think you're gonNA, see a colossal rotation of from these these really high cashflow companies that are based off of future terminal value over toward the value space and toward metals. Mining companies value companies support for this podcast comes from twilly Leo Right. Now, businesses all over the world are trying to reinvent how they connect with. The world whether you're delivering packages, treating patients or running a global customer support center. Your customers need you to invent new ways to stay connected. Twi- Leo is the platform that millions of developers, trust seamless communications, experiences with phone calls, text messages, video calls, and more. It's time to build visit dot COM to learn more. That's T. W. I L. I. O. Dot Com. So do you think that fiscal is necessarily inflationary because I'm not sure. But I mean that's what the market is starting to think is fiscal stimulus is inflationary monetary stimulus was not in the end sure devalued currencies, but it didn't generate inflation as measured by CPI, whatever well fiscal with Kobe just take. Just. Take. Just take copper, for example, right now copper. So. All the analysts on the street were looking at demand demand demand into all the research reports for last like three or four months of focused on this demand crunch would know not really looked at the supply. So when you have fiscal policy that's popping up demand for. Some assets but then all of a sudden, you have Kobe where you take thirty percent of the minds and South Africa three percent of the mind sitting in Central America and also South America off line sculpture. Then you have a real surprise supply problem in but the biggest thing is that if you think about this. Last year the year before see the last three years. If you look at the amount of bonds on the calendar that we're below one and a half to one and three quarters, it was like. Sixty to seventy trillion. Now, that numbers a hundred and ten trillion. So there's an extra fifty trillion, a bonds that are below say one and three quarters percent and what happens is when there's that much of the world's well in in the same trade. People are are are just forced into a commodity. That's why you've. Warren. Buffett here's my main point Warren Buffett who's just been trashing gold for a long long time in you know in moved into stocks like apple is now taking. Almost. Almost a billion dollars in body gold miner in I. Think. We're seeing a transformation here where even the Warren Buffett's to the world if he's moving into gold mining companies as edge in the these were met them stocks are trump. No could he could buffet instead be trying to buy cheap discounted cash flows because the gold miners have a lot of cash that's riding of cash versus the software companies that are highly valued for that cash. Maybe it's not a goal play a free cash flow play. Yeah. It definitely is a great value. It's great but at the end of the day that free cash flows can be determined by. High gold prices in other words in really need. Gold gold prices if gold drops from two, thousand, two, thousand. Barracks in that cash flows in big trouble. So he's making he's making essentially a colossal bet on. Either stagflation or He's moving his portfolio out of financial. So he was coming out of financial assets into more heart set cash lows, and so that tells you that sort of the smartest investors in the world you'd get to the he makes shift like at the same time you have these tech companies momentum stocks that are really. Christ for a two thousand, eight to two, thousand, twenty world. In a steady rich with monetary policy than I think that there's a real big shift from again particle faces is the inflation side I understand that there's a supply constraint. But where's to mount come from because for look at the Consumer growth across almost every country regardless of where they are in lockdown, not lockdown the rule kind of down between. Five and ten percents year on year. Surely, we need to see growth comeback to positive before you ignite. Those fireworks because if not, so difficult to say demand offset restrictions supply. Yes, and that's why you know if you look back sixty seventies especially, the sixties in never go straight to inflation. What happens is you have these dislocation periods like we're going through. Now where certain supplies of certain commodities we've just had just look at the ads. For example, mosaic you're talking about a stock up fifty percent sixty percent this quarter in the agricultural commodity space. So and you're talking about floods, you're talking about Colby and you're talking about arming and the ability to get products to certain places supply chains. Yes jeep for example, supply chains. Moving you never know with these populous in Washington, right they could force the Intel's the apples of the world to move thirty percent supply chain home. So you have a deflation environment with that was driven by. By, China. All the sudden even with weaker demand is you're pointing out. But. If you change the supply chain. and. Then you take the s rules look at HP, Bulletin today you know they're they're basically getting rid of the Thurman Thermal options one of the largest money companies in the world they're they're getting out of third, world because that's bad. That's not esp positive. That's environmental standards of governors in their in their actually raising the standards on on their met Cole So you're you're met Coles, you're you're colditz needed for steel production. So all of these things who so many of these like. So we talk about the culprit back what is the Kobe back? In late, eighteen hundreds in in in India. You had culprit problem. The British, the British government control India and yet Cobra problem. So they started to pay a people for each Cobra, Cobra that was turned it try to save lives and sure enough it works for four or five months. They had a number of Cobra's that they had contained were killing them and lo and behold all of a sudden. There were a number of these these gentlemen in in the countryside of India started to farm cobras oviously, and selling the covers back the government and sure enough the government to stop it. They stopped the policy of paying pant one pound for Cobra. They stopped the policy and what did the Cobra farmers do they released the cobras out into the? Cities and towns. So then you had three times more offers. To the point is when you when you take the hand, the inefficient hand of central planners. And government officials into this mix all these government officials around the world have the most power. They'd had an years they're bracing this Power Co. bid and they're bracing power through new fiscal policy and when you throw that in the mix, you have this cocktail that that is very unlike the previous decade called sufficient reminds me of nineteen, ninety nine. Where we had this kind of it was the basing of the industrials complex but the tech stocks exploded on a similar thing because it was very deflation environment after nine, hundred, ninety eight, and then it will ground to a halt what I'm kind of interested in is okay. We're starting to identify if there is inflation, it makes those tech stocks, the high flies particularly vulnerable. and. That's the. Positive real interest rates discussion that many people have had which many people suggest might hit gold as well but we'll talk about that in a bit but. The other thing that I think is interesting is I've talked about last time we talked about is this election the middle? And if the Democrats Win Off these companies I think. It feels that the regulatory environment for the big tech companies going to get a lot harder. Potentially. So depending who wins the election, there's going to be fiscal stimulus either way whether it's trump or whether it's biden and there's GonNa be a loss of it. And potentially, if it's the Democrats GonNa come after these high flyers whether it's raising taxes or regulation will both probably. And if it's trump well because of trump's very kind of. pro-market forces. In the way, he likes to run the Economy Alexa running heart. Well the. Relation rises. So if feels that we could be getting inflection point of the market doesn't think about yes. Kamala Harris from California in that was an interesting choice for by because it was more left wing he could have gone more centrists with Susan Rice and so he's going more left. I had this thesis that you just laid out I. It's been we've written a number of trap supports about this thesis because we work with our team in. Washington A. C. T. analytics the helpful and we've we've sat down with Congressmen and Senators, and we try to look at the committee's okay hop. What is the House Financial Services Committee or what is the? Senate finance services, can you get a look at neck look like next year and the Senate has been blocking everything, right? So you've got the house but then intra-service committee that's in control of the Democrats the Senate Finance Committee control the Republican. So the Senate's the Senate Democrats take the Senate, and they take the White House it it literally ships into full throttle. Changing fiscal is no like offsetting formula. So you would get a much bigger fiscal response. The wouldn't have any blockades. The one thing I'm worried about Kamala for my thesis of being there stack is sheet. This is a real test because trump is really reached out to the middle of America gained some of the populace votes. So maybe some the votes went to trump whatever the. Maybe got some of those independents so. If Camilla's from California relationships in very strong with tech companies and as the former top. Top legal official in California I hope that she's not in hip pocket of these companies you know the Silicon Valley's obviously. There but other than that, if they're smart Democrats, they want to take a shift towards the center of populism for sustainability and then they. The the deficits just so so so large, there's no way that you don't go after the technically. So I mean that's a another interesting thing is if we look at the I mean we cannot figure this out until we get closer to actual past the election is the types of fiscal. So let's think about that from because I think that's going to give us some opportunities as well. If I look at the Democrats, the Chelsea is ES G. Green investment. So that's GonNa change the dynamics of the market potentially. Companies Look a little bit like that could be the case. If it's trump, maybe the all companies. Get some market share back how you thinking the two different fiscal stimulus plan. Well, what's amazing is by the time you get to the election, the traits probably. Fifty sixty seventy percent over. So the right now, the ethanol companies were been flying the last couple of weeks because you're looking at potentially with the Biden Administration. Even by coming down to the polls. So either trump provide the market's pricing. So that's why it's not that clear right so that was interesting but a lot of these green trades have been moving like law of. Tesla. Right. So so these not. As, well, neck oh my God. Yes. So So I want I think right now. A lot of the Biden or folio, and if you talk to you know we at the bear trap support, we have our. Pied portfolio we tracked on Bloomberg in you check your trump. The the Biden portfolios been outperforming the market by about eight hundred basis points. So it's priced in. So if you. Get into the points at some point it might might make sense to go the other way towards trump portfolio wear because the risk wars just. Because at some point, the traits on on the Biden side get so priced in that. Election comes and they actually sell onto what kind of companies were in the Bible portfolio. What kind of companies in the trump fuller on the trump has much more infrastructure, steel dynamics of large companies that are. The. Bulk Industries companies that are part of that is trump. Remember trump. I don't want to say he was. The. He wasn't treated very well but. When he came into office because. You had Mitch and Paul Ryan essentially pushed the healthcare front of trump. Trump. Infrastructure trump trump trump wanted to do obstruction i. Literally forced him through Senate rules, tricks of the trade. They forced healthcare the agenda trump's gonna come out hard on infrastructure I mean this is every meeting that we're having around the hill points to a real shift there. So that's where you get into metals and your offer your beach be bullets they're down at per capita is seven billion now. Down from twenty, two, billion in two, thousand, fourteen backs. So the these companies of interpreting be HP something metal companies that feed into the instructor they are not position or. For a big infrastructure like renaissance. So those are you're going to get the biggest bang for your right there. That's where we're focuses your at. That's sounds more inflationary than the other side. I. Would Imagine because you're buying a lot of materials es esp less raw materials, more other stuff but. Big infrastructure sounds inflationary. Yes, and it's you just have to many you have probably fifteen twenty million jobs that aren't gonNA come back for your airline stewardesses, your waiters and waitresses Tilles ten th. There's a lot of jobs are coming back. Now a lot of those people can't get into infrastructure, but there's a certain portion that can now the problem with infrastructure is you plan and to get it into the economy? It takes a little while but. What's what's crazy about the market is the market price in way before the money actually comes. In, and then you look at Wall Street I mean the one thing that gets me worried about like. The whole dividend discount modeling thing right today. So we're at twenty two times on the S. and P. in what's fascinating Goldman this week raised their price target from three thousand on the SAP thirty, thirty, six hundred, and that's really an Aha like pitch right in when they came out with that, they stress this whole dividend discount model and this isn't like the term, the terminal model terminal values and other that we talked about it's another bottle. This is just pure fed model. They've just looking at the yield ten year three kids at the free risk free rate on the SNP earn power versus. Versus where the tenures, right so the risk free rate versus. Bruce. Free Right, ten year, versus the sat earnings power in that model. The crazy thing about that is right now you're twenty two times earnings. Amid the thesis you can go to twenty, six, twenty, seven, twenty, eight times put the smell test doesn't work for me on that because if the Japanese stocks in European stocks will be the most expensive in the world with negative interest rates. Dividend discount model means that's equities at infinitely prize, but that's not the case elsewhere in the world. So why should have been the US didn't? And that's the craziest thing you just nailed. craziest thing is the ten year Treasury, which was the risk free rate in March and April was fifty five tips, and now last week was a fifty five bits. So you can use the same reasoning is just a greater full-hair. You can use the same reasoning in March and April to get into the value, the dividend discount discount. So just trying to justify the price that's gone out. Yes in a reminds me of when I was at Lehman I wrote. My books now done very in twelve languages. It's colossal failure common sense. I was a traitor Leeann I are distressed business in I'll never forget we had our huge pilot stress loans, a great story and two billion dollars of distress loans. We're doing all these deals which we getting hung. The bank was getting stuck with these deals and Alex. Kirk and Mike Yell van were our big. Big managing directors the head of fixed income they were like listening to a hedge portfolio. So we went out to the west coast. We started looking at these subprime candidates and we came up with a really credible thesis to be short subprime get long CDs on some of these companies and we came back. We pitched it. We're about to basically make a huge bet. To try to hedge all loans and the logo and They said Oh you're going to run this by our chief economist. So we took the entire presentation like three managing directors. Myself would have made the presentation presentation and they they tried to stop the trade because they said United States real estate market is never done down. In a uniform basis with unemployment rate of as low as it right. So they're basically an entire multiyear thesis based off of a certain condition and I. Think it's the same thing now like this belief system. So everybody's believing in this cash flow model that stocks go from twenty to twenty eight. Times earnings. Because just because like a universal belief system, but there's nothing really behind it and those. Belief systems can I'm angry because again when everybody says, well, the fate QA is goosing stokes. Well, it is five behavior because people have this belief. But again, if that were the case. UK Stock Swiss Star would be much harder now because they've been doing it for longer more aggressively, but it doesn't seem to be the case. So has to be a belief system and that's what it was with housing in housing you made a presentation short subprime. They looked at you like you had three heads row and like we literally because of this that it's never if the market is so the beat the beast in the market, the serpent market always will find its way around these types of belief systems and that is I think that the what's GonNa crack the market and crack tech is just if if you go from the certainty of deflation, which is one hundred percent certain six. Months ago, nine months ago to just just fifty percent certainty in a world of where stagflation risk is rising. Then all of these companies that are trading it sixty seventy times earnings maybe should try to thirty times. Then you're GonNa see maybe right now the seven trillion bucks and banks I, think a trillion to two trillion is going to move outta those thank stocks in into some of these sectors, these structure names, these value names. That are more globally exposed to the weaker dollar because one of the things that have been driving that growth might green spokane lot about unreal vision is the flow of funds from index funds from basically millennials sticking money in their 401k and saying. Funds. So it's Kinda of everything because the baby boomers all own the value stokes and active portfolios and they've been selling now for a long time as they're going to retirement but the millennials just buying the same bosquet, each person's buying exactly the same star now. so that creates inflation in the main stalks. I'm starting to think, okay we're about to get to this kind of fiscal stall in the US that you and I talked about last time we spoke. Who knows how it plays out? But the point being is a Lotta people as you rightly said, not going back to jobs. So once that support lease on the government that buying a 401k by the marginal millennial. Soon as drives up a bit and I worry that at the same time, you say that could be a change in the inflation narrative that also be a change in the fiscal narrative over the election we also end up with multiple less buyers of index funds. So there is a potential for a perfect stolnis. Yeah. It's just the dog chasing the tail. You've got so many people in the same trades, and now we're the fiscal cliff. You saw today Walmart reported earnings and they said they literally there they've got very. Very sharp financial people that are running that company and they literally monitoring by the day by the week and they said you know as the fiscal juice was pumping in June July. They can see the sales, but then they said something happened until I you know obviously the check started coming off. That's where it gets back to this kind of short-term deflation risk would be brought by fiscal cliff. So you've got fiscal coming because if they don't prime the palm in right now in Washington everybody own process. Now they WANNA bring people back to talk about the post office but there's definitely a fiscal cliff here because it Walmart Sell told you today. There's been a change in spend. It sounds like this potential for the economy to slow because of what's going on the fight. Over stimulus and stuff. So maybe things slow somewhat ashamed estate partly closed down city this restrictions on people in the ability to spend. That kind of goes. If I'm thinking through to, let's say February March next year. The year-on-year comparisons are going to be the largest in all recorded history. So the numbers are going to look ridiculous everything's GonNa, look ridiculous including the rates of change of the markets. So you're gonNA, get this huge growth pattern. That's GONNA look like you've suddenly got attempts twenty seven GDP Christ. And you'll have had the stimulus starting from the new government whichever government is. That sounds like that. That's a very dangerous point. I'm trying to think the phasing here because you know obviously to try and short the tech stocks is like playing Russian roulette right now. But it feels like if it's GonNa come, it comes in the year I. Don't know what do you think it's going to come when we have a moment where River Integrity two, thousand, eighteen, the average hourly earnings came out on that Friday and then we dropped. Twelve percent really quick the next week. So there was basically something that takes like, say you have like this? You Have A. On. So you've got. Hundred million two hundred billion dollars gone vaccines got probably. Watched I watch real time. Let's seem to different guests. Might be seventy different probabilities vaccine than so if those seventy probabilities turned ten by the fourth quarter, all of a sudden Your vaccines bring people back to back to reality back to baseball games in the by next year and back to the NBA finals next year. So in back to the masters, all these sports and NFL in. So then you're talking about a big reversal, the same time he'd been all this fiscal policy that's using around out there. So that that gets you a big problem and then he looked the Fed. So the Fed I talked about this in my book across the Common Sense about leaving the fit went into period where they were really handicapped around central banks and we didn't have any fiscal policy now. They're they're really because of the inequality in populous risen this massively rising inequality erupts in the streets. You've got more and more people in social media. They just look at your some of your tweets that are around the Fed in some of the tweets that something inequality, get tons and tons of you're ship. So the Fed knows and the last two fed meetings by the way in two or three questions about this. So you're talking about social justice fat and the in the Lael brainard speech a month ago was a game changer so you're talking about a fad is embracing. The Larry Summers Mantra to hike. Until you see the whites of inflation is a real social justice fence like they really believe that if in two thousand, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen if they hadn't run if they had kept the Kiwi going on longer, they would have been created in place. Right? They really believe that and so this time around, you've got politicians spending more than ever because of MT in modern monetary theory in the police that they can't create inflation at the same time. Central Bankers. Are really creating a social justice, a political elements of the Fed and Ben Milkman your interview been melted pass events talked about this. You're talking about like a fad that's going back to World War Two words politically driven is all this changing next year. Instead of what you're talking about is this shift in the data with the vaccines it's all set up. So I think the blow up top is sometime meteorite live in the third fourth quarter in a big move down in the first quarter next year we're talking. Tech stocks fifty percent, and that's kind of note with the markets thinking it's whole right? Because of all things, the risk is all now and everyone's a the stocks go down. But actually the recovery is what risks the stock market? Not The recession yeah. The market the going to look twelve months out and. You're coming in and we get back in two, thousand, eighteen the reason I brought up that average hourly earnings is this. Know the. A lot of people on the street we're talking about. That's what. When the average hourly earnings picked up that's what. The street went from looking at, you know three four rate hikes to their starting price in eight to twelve rate hikes into thousand and eighteen, and by the fourth quarter two, thousand, eighteen, the beast in the market stopped the Fed coal but. On the street and you you were pounding the table that the Fed would stop and you're absolutely right. But the street was calling for remember the fourth quarter two, thousand, eighteen, it was still. Likes, it was a lot of it had to do with that hot data into so now. You're talking about a situation where The data could get hot again, and but the Fed is like has a vested interest because equality not to respond to the marketplace out in all of this I think I you've made the first of all I. Commend you the the Bond Market called you made last year the second quarter was phenomenal and you guys have been right and I just think that you could. You might get this one dance with negative yields, but the complexity is just so poor terms of the amount ponds that are below one and a half one and three quarters that any dance down there below one below below say fifty bits on the tens any dance down there it's very short lived and I just think like a year and a half two years from now. You're going to have a situation where they're kind of losing control long. Why would that be the case? It's not been the case in Europe. The UK a Switzerland's unum it right. So they bones of dance a negative fifty. Maybe really cares the Bankston like obviously but nobody really cared and didn't really make that much difference. Why do you think? Japan's the same thing. So let's look at Japan real quick, and then you're so Japan, they did like a trillion and a half a deficit spending oversight six years. So you lose in the deficit spending over six to ten years the MO The bond market can handle that. In Europe. Remember we had. Austerity steady we had black black zero I mean. Black Zero. There was literally in the German Finance Ministry. Mural on the wall of black their dedication to black zero because the depression and in hyper inflation. So Black Zero's basically like. Massive. Amount of fiscal controls. It's all of that. The throw it out the window last six months at the same time the US if you just look at the US wristband, we're doing three to four trillion of stimulus in a six to nine month period versus Japan's like one and a half trillion over a decade almost. So I, think the difference is is that you've had a big shift in Germany rum. Black Zero to really fiscal. And spending at the same time the US. Has Done the Senate insane amount of. Down to this, the Liman whole was identifiable talked about this. In my book, you had literally six banks you had a bill. Now you have a million holes to fill a million like so your capital bowl is going from y six banks to seek five million little little bowls small businesses, and so the only way to fix that is to do a massive of a shotgun of truly because military doesn't work in insolvencies and we're talking about large solvency even so monetary stimulus doesn't really work. It doesn't help you get your job back or help with servicing your debts. Really. So fiscal is the answer I get that It's GonNa be fascinating to see. Two things is one if the economy looks good as it does now how they can justify fiscal. Be Justified on environmental. If it's the left, it'll be environmental and inequality on the right it'll be make America great again, rebuild the infrastructure I guess. If. There is. It's get into a slightly apocalypse. I'm no inflationist but I'm super interested in this because I. I say the Lindsey of what you're saying is. Is if they do. Stimulate. And the numbers look suddenly hot and you've got corona virus under control from a vaccine. How the hell big issue the bones. That's that's Ben. Milkman? Thesis and Benz Benz numbers are startling because once you get into that realm where they have the balance sheet is now seven trillion. By next year, you're talking about maybe ten to fifteen if they keep on the social path in, there's just so much of that portfolio that will be re Christ remember six, sixty, five percent of entitlements. Now, I mean sixty percent of of sixty five percent of the interest. The national debt is entitlements interest. Now, that was before before Kobe before so you're talking about. Go from sixty, two percent of interest on the debt. Being, entitled to and interest to maybe eighty two over the next couple of years. But but that's why they have to keep breaks now but the duchess so big now that. The the entitlement GONNA eat up more and more of this of the of of don't we get into the old trench thinking this full with knock on effects. So let's say this happens right we ignite inflation fed. Tenure bones going to percents. The economy goes off a cliff again because it's too much debt win this weird dynamic where it's almost self-regulating. You can't generate inflation enough because as bone yields go up the economy times because the so much debt. So it's a it just gets worse and worse and worse. That's where you could get. The real deflation is when when the beast in the market forces central banks and politicians into austerity and that would be caused by ten or going to say three four percent and just just do the math the the the the numbers are so fast. Now that because you've got the interest on the debt being at sixty two percent entitlements and interest if you go to eighty two, the whole thing changes. So the real deflation scare is, is I think like a year and a half two years wet. And whereas near-term, the the risk is is stacked and mobile fed domes of Yoko control because they might just say, well, fuck just GONNA pin rates to Hoffa percents at ten years and be done with it. I mean is that know whether they're gonNA try and do to say look we want to see the whites have been places? Is You WANNA say around for a while we don't want a few months CPI print. We won't core inflation to get to two percent and stay there. That White Yuka Buffet told you by taking seven billion of his portfolio out of financial. Now, he's still owns bank of America but he reduced the financials by about six billion and he added gold miner. Let's call it a billion. So that's a financial. That's a repression. That's the yield curve control move. So like in other words if buffets telling you that he believes year, you'll kirk control will work in the short term because. If you if you believe the purpose can steepen. Because of economic growth, the Fed would lead Stephen. He would stay long the banks, right? Because the banks are going to crush in been uber all he believes in a theory, the ankle. Insolvency theory you buy a cheaply discounted gold mining company that hedges lot of its called exposure but has kaikal cast by psychology management much cheaper than buying Tesla, which doesn't generate cash. But let's say better than buying oracles at some of the company. And then on the flip side, you've got rid of anything with massive debts in I mean clearly got rid of his airline's stake. Sounds like he's setting up the lower economic growth. For longer, all some sort of shift that you're suggesting fascinating about planes out. On twitter, you see all these people saying people have to understand it's not like. Invested six hundred million dollars in in in a gold miner and he's got. Twenty. Twenty to thirty billion dollars in Apple. Maybe it's more. So in other words, the amount of money has gotten apple relative to gold miner I get that. But this has nothing to you're talking about a guy that has speech after speech for sixty years trashing gold and you're talking about a person that knows an awful lot about you know the yield curve allow lot about banks in. So to move from financial assets in six to reduce those financial assets by six billion and then take. It. Yeah. I, mean. Regardless of the gold thing buffet is one of the world's. Best Bank investors. Yeah. He's basically the lender of last resort or the bailout of last resort for many banks always has been you know from Salomon brothers own. Woods. So He's been involved in this and for him in the Middle Live when the markets are rallying to offload launch stakes of his banks. Is Instructive in some way he's not really told us why he's done it yet but I find that very interesting because he would normally be borrowed a station not a seller him to Selah is interesting because there's such value on the banks the banks are cheap. They're trading it. One? Times. Book versus the. Bigs. Book Is Not Worth Book Right Yeah That's what he's telling you. J.. P. Morgan. That was his prized possession and it's interesting to go from J. Morgan though, and then Increases Bank of America and other thing they might be doing is buffet always said, put your eggs in one basket and watch the mascot maybe he just feels that he's to diversify in the financials in rather just have one horse instead of three. Yeah. So what else are you looking at right now? What else do right offscreen? Sorry. I'm going to get back question. So Wendy, you WANNA show these tech stokes a brave boy. I, I'm sure right now and I think the. Strategy love is you put spread on the cute. So accuser it to eighty to eighty. By the said, the to sixty, two, hundred foot spread and guess what if you're wrong for two three months you by then what that means you buy to sixty put on the cues, which is the Nasdaq. Ultra. Nasr. At one hundred, fifty, sixty percent tech rights. Fifty sixty percent. Patek. So that's what you want short and so you you buy the to sixty put out to next March or even to. Sell the two hundred and guess what if you're wrong you sold ball let's say wrong in the vix collapses over the next two months the market rips. Thank you buy back your lower strike. You produce the cost of the trade by a lot and you know lose money if you're wrong. You don't. And guess what in that that that trade I talked to a Portfolio manager of ours we have a Bloomberg chat with a whole bunch of different PM's he's up. He's up close to two hundred, million dollars in tech stocks in just said, take thirty, five, million of that input on this put spread you know because you just protecting your earnings and you're you're by the way if that if that trade pays off if we have another fourth quarter drawdown, like we had in two thousand eighteen or draw down in the first quarter next year, you're payoffs like three three and a half sometimes four to one. You have the right ratio. So you're. So. You're. So you have three, three, hundred, million dollar. Profit in something you take thirty to fifty million bucks, but it's this trade and your potential return thousand. People in gold just before the correction I'm like this is getting pretty frothy. I'm so long term goal bull thesis Gulping. down. Why don't you? Even if you don't want to be as as you head with cuts. Just uncles, instead of stock. One of this you know because then you're lucky annual prophets or you can lose the premium in your calls and you still. The upside. A hero the one thing I I met when I went behind met with Charlie Munger. We were talking about these different strategies that Charlie Mercury give me like one hour together. Right before the Berkshire meeting we were talking about because I don't understand why more people don't kiss. You have a profit in a stock most people sell their winners far too early buff. It's famous for holding those winters in he said if you have to do one thing. Sell your stock that you're up which save double your money then take twenty, five thirty percent of the prophets and violate a long-term call spread. Right. So you just say you've made X. amount of dollars you take twenty thirty percent of that in by that long-term call spread it just be there for the big and that's that's a probably one of the best strategies throughout our lifetime investing that that I've ever heard. Yeah that's right and people are doing enough I mean I don't do it enough. I should think about it. You know particularly, you know volts a cheap now. So it doesn't cost you a lot to have stock replacement Strachey by calls, and then you can sleep at night doesn't really matter. Yeah that's the that's the thing. So we're looking at across the portfolio where long the eggs we have overweight position the agricultural modest. If you look at the commodity space, throw it all the different cycles, typically the medals to take the first move out of the gate, and now we've got the flooding in China. We've got Three Gorges Dam which that's hold other guys done a great job in real vision on that. But this is you're talking about thirty percent of China's potential agricultural infrastructure that's at risk. So you have bid that obviously this inflation risk of deflation risk. So the. country's companies like NTR MOSAIC I think your risk reward is thirty forty percent downside but your upside is sit by being five six I'm going to give a caveat. So I'm GonNa give you a story back in two thousand and six I started building a long ags thesis. because. They were really bombed down two thousand seven. I decided to pull the trigger with a friend of mine. We started an agricultural head fund which was basically. Always had been that long but we things against etc because people wanted to be in trade but have some sort of hedged exposure. Yes and so we built the macro thesis in the framework and everything else I go around the world speaking to. Really, interesting people about it people Nick Ritchie and stuff like that and so we started this thing and race if you hundred billion dollars and. Firstly you realize how UN macro, the space says, it traits really macro while and then something happens in the call in Bloody Iowa. Because rainfall overnight and you're like, okay, I, can't predict this stuff. It becomes really hard. You have to be spent to the weather patterns. What's going on? What do you trading sh sugar crops in Brazil showed crops in India and? It becomes almost impossible in the macro gets filtered out very quickly. So whether it's a week, it was a weak dollar environments at the time. The weak dollar environment going up. then. Completely. Bizarre to us we thought carrying two, thousand and eight. You know I could see this potential recession coming in the bad things. So actually be fine. Destroy because lending to almost disappeared. All went crump. Gave Up. It was the hardest trade of evidence as the Fed was doing their first version of M. T. in two, thousand, eight, nine, ten eleven. The did rip again. So Jeff just. Remember yet China Fiscal as well. So you have both things. Put celebrate to see you guys. Know it's I always love coming on and as I tell my wife once a month is a former lehman trader, we sell a million books will break even on our lean stock. Go Out and buy classify commonsense. So right. Let's wait and see how this plays. I. Think an interesting pieces I. think it makes a lot sense makes me very nervous for next year for a number of reasons I've not really been involved equity market this him up in short few banks and and General Electric. And AT and T.. But. But, Odeon small. But you know I think it's going to be really interesting because. I think markets now not prepared for anything go wrong and what could go wrong as a number of things. It's a change of government and change regulation whether inflation repulse. All an elongated recession whether general buyers of index funds. Disappear. For Awhile while. So, I think you're right I think if people are involved in the trade switched to Coles or by some put spreads. And if you feel like a punt. Looks. Like there's an opportunity on the downside coming. And a lot of gains out there to protect. Exactly. Larry Great to get you back to hear your thoughts as catch up within. The. Last my friend I'll see at the top. Yeah. Absolutely. Wherever that you?

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I'll speak to pilot flying over the storm who says, no one should ride this one out. Plus Nikki Haley suddenly quits as you an ambassador. Why now? And who are the five people on on President Trump's shortlist to replace her and Mitch McConnell is not done fighting after the cabinet battle who's his new target? Let's go out front. Good evening. Everyone. I'm Kate Baldwin in for an brunette out front tonight. Breaking news, a cat, three massive storm that is gaining strength hurricane, Michael now called an historic life threatening storm with sustained winds of one hundred twenty miles per hour. At this hour, the storm is intensifying as it heads towards the Florida panhandle. Michael is expected to make landfall tomorrow. President Trump already declaring a state of emergency in Florida and ordering homeland security and FEMA to coordinate all relief operations. This is Michael. We're going to show you as seen from space terrifying. The fast moving storm is heading north over the eastern Gulf of Mexico more than twenty million people across five states are under hurricane watches or warnings. Tonight. Michael is forecast to be the strongest storm to hit the US this year in all some three hundred miles of coastline are threatened with devastating winds with storm surge of two thirteen feet and up to a foot of rain in parts of. The state bringing, of course, life threatening flooding. Perhaps most endanger or those living on islands off the coast, the bridges connecting them to the mainland may soon be closed, leaving people nowhere to go. Residents are being urged to get out by tonight or it may be too late. Evacuation orders have been issued for twenty two Florida counties. Florida's governor, Rick Scott. He made his warning crystal clear today. We're gonna do everything we can to help you do not wait. If there's an evacuation order, go to safety. If you're on the fence, don't think about it, do it, this storm can kill you. We are covering this dangerous storm with reporters spread out across Florida's panhandle. Let's begin with meteorologist Allison Chinchar she's at the weather center for us Alison. What is the latest on the path for hurricane, Michael, right. So we still expect landfall with hurricane Michael to impact somewhere along the Florida panhandle likely late tomorrow afternoon. So again, we're now down to less than twelve hours right now. Winds are one hundred twenty miles per hour moving north at about twelve miles per hour, but it is still possible that this storm could attentive. I a little bit more before it makes landfall now keep in mind a little bit more. Well, let's say we jump up ten miles per hour up to one hundred thirty that actually makes it a category four. So we're close enough that it's something we have to keep a close eye on even though the official Hurricane Center forecast keeps it only at a three. Here's a look at that track. Again, sometime Wednesday afternoon is when we expected to make landfall over the panhandle of Florida from their pushes up towards states like Georgia, south and North Carolina, and. Eventually bringing some of the heavy rain bands up towards Virginia as well. Storm surge is going to be one of the biggest concerns with this, especially along the coastline. This purple region here, including the city of Appalachia cola. We're now talking storm surge of nine to thirteen feet. The red areas UC here, including Panama City. Now you're talking six to nine feet, but even a city like Tampa. That seems very far away still likely to get storm surge of upwards of about two to four feet. Wind is also going to be a concern. Win was not really the key component to hurricane forints, but this is a different storm. We are still expecting those forecast winds to be upwards of one hundred miles per hour, and that's going to be widespread. The unfortunate thing there Kate is that that can then lead to power outages not just along the coastline, but even cities, far inland like Colombia or even at Lanta could end up dealing with widespread power outages. All right, Alison. Thank you so much. I'm joined on the phone now by Richard heading a flight director with Noah's hurricane hunters. He's on board a plane that just flow flew over hurricane Michael Richard. Can you hear me. I can hear you just fine. Thank you so much. You have the very latest information on this storm. What are you seeing. Well, right now we have rear crafts actually in the storm. We have no high-altitude Gulfstream for chedda. We're at forty five thousand feet flying across the top of the storm. We all know key, three zero clout plane by low altitude, penetrating the eye wall, and we also have an air force reserve c. one thirty doing the same thing from a different direction. Well, what we're seeing with all aircraft storm is intensifying pleasure in the center has dropped all the way down to nine hundred fifty. Six Miller bars, which is a lot lower than it was. It's morning below of the treasure in the I, the stronger the storm is and the winds have increased up. Sustained winds one hundred and twenty miles per hour day legitimate category, three hurricane at this point major storm. There's going to be another. Update in another national update at the top of the hour. Do you think that it's going to be gaining strength by then. I'm not sure if bump up the intensity of in the next five, three or not. It all depends on what the aircraft find Cowan lower in the eye wall. However, the forecast with Hurricane Center is supposed to storm to continue to intensify this evening up to the upper end of category, three close to category four intensity, so people need to be ready for that. And when you get right down to it, if you live along the shoreline, it doesn't really make much different hoop. It's a strong category, three or a low end category for destructive power. It's not very, there's not much difference. From your perspective flying through this with the latest data. When when the governor says that this could be this is a monster storm and it could I in it could be the worst destruction in a decade for the panhandle. You don't think he's overstating it. Oh, not at all. I think you actually have to go all the way back to the nineteen seventy five for the old timers. There was a storm hurricane l. Elise that. Followed a similar track and was very destructive. But they weren't nearly as many people living along the coastline in the panhandle back then since then we had hurricane hopeful in nineteen ninety five hurricane. Ivan in two thousand four. We're both very, very destructive. And I think that unfortunately, Michael is following right along with those type of storms. That type of devastation was terrifying. You for perspective. You also flew over hurricane Florence several times. How does hurricane Michael compared to Florence? Do they look different. They are different storms. Hurricane Florence was much larger in terms of diameter hurricane. Michael is more compact and intense hurricane Florence was weakening as it approaches the coast hurricane. Michael is intensifying as approaching the coast, so they're, they're actually very different. I hope we still have you hope I still have you Richard. What worries you most as you're flying over the storm. And this storm is getting closer and closer to land. Well, again, the the risk of form surge and very, very powerful winds increasing. So everyone needs to heed the the warnings of the local emergency management folks with this storm. This is not the storm that you wanna ride out. Thank you so much. Really appreciate your time. Yes, ma'am. And again, for all your audience, listening on the Florida panhandle, I would strongly urge everyone to to have a plan and execute that plan right away for getting out. This coming from the man flying over this storm right now. That's an important warning. Thank you down. Thank you. Right out front with me. Now AccuWeather storm chaser retailer. He's on his way to Panama City Beach, Florida to write out this hurricane read. You just heard what the no of hurricane hunter said. I mean, he called very dangerous situation and that the storm is likely to gain strength still. What are you in -ticipant ding. Could certainly reiterate this out dangerous storm is going to be. It's intensifying. That's very different than hurricane floor was weakening. As it came in hurricane Harvey. You may remember last year wasn't intensifying storm rapidly as it came in as a category, four down near Rockport, Texas, and the wind. Damn, it was absolutely catastrophic from that. Any week structure would be completely knocked down by winds of that with one hundred twenty five mile per hour. Sustained winds, you have gusts much stronger than that. That's basically like a widespread e f two or three tornado in terms of the damage. And then you have that catastrophic storm served as well anywhere near and just to the right of the center. And that's going to extend all the way down to even north at the Tampa Bay area. You have all different kinds of inlets there and conch cavity along the Florida panhandle shoreline, which is very storm surge prone. So you have those onshore winds just hammering battering the coast and it's just not survivable on those barrier islands. I mean, the winds just even the thought of one hundred twenty sustained amount per hour winds is terrifying thought. I want to show our viewer. Read video of hurricane Dennis from two thousand five. It's the last time that a major hurricane hit, the Florida panhandle. When you see the destruction that was done back then just how vulnerable is the area where where you're going to be. It is incredibly vulnerable and looking back to the accurate weather archives all the way back in nineteen seventy five. I could find a hurricane that was similar that took a similar track at least at landfall that was hurricane Louise there that came in as a category three with a maximum sustained winds of one hundred and twenty five miles an hour. This one could even be stronger than that. It's a very compact storm who knows how strong this good intensify. As the hurricane hunter. A pilot said there's not much of a difference between a strong category, three and a weak category for either one of those are going to be deadly, especially along those barrier islands near and just to the right of center. Another hurricane that took a similar track was hurricane Opal in one thousand nine hundred ninety five that came in further west near the Pensacola area and brought a fifteen foot storm surge there in Pensacola, there were dozens of fatalities from both of those storms. So a storm like this, it's fast, moving, strengthening as it comes in, it's going to have a quick devastating storm surge is going to come in fast along with those winds, and it's just something that you don't want to be a part of. Remoter folks need to be prepared for if they've decided to stick this out. Do you think it's worse that we're talking about these winds that are going to that that are going to be coming ashore or the storm surge. I think it's both right near the shoreline. You have those winds and you have the storm surge, and eventually it's going to be too dangerous to leave. And the surge in the water will come up well in advance of that storm system. So now is the time to leave and get out of the path of this, but it certainly a want a one, two punch with both that wind and the storm surge, very different from hurricane Florence in very different from hurricane Florence and just just as dangerous. If not more we're going to, we're going to check in with you throughout the week where he'd, we know you take many precautions to be safe as this is your job. My friend. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Read, thank you. We'll talk to him. Up front, press nex, massive accusation orders as hurricane Michael strengthens. I'm gonna talk to a mayor who city could be right in the path of the storm. Tonight. Plus the president tonight says, there are five people on a shortlist replace UN, UN ambassador, Nikki Haley. Who are they? 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I just spoke with says that no one should be riding out this storm along along along the shoreline. How worried are you tonight? Fortunately, if the storm continues on his projected pass, it bodes well for our community. We're going to be on the west side of the storm, which means we'll have wins out of the northeast and the east, which reduces threats of storm surge and the overall effect of the the winds. So I hate it for my brethren and friends and families to the east of us, but somebody's gotta get hit. And right now it doesn't look like we're going to take around the storm. So in many respects will vary thankful at this time in many respects, your thankful and obviously hoping for the best. But I'm sure you still have the warning out to all the residents of destined to take heat. Yes, we did mandatory evacuations this morning at eleven AM on the low lying areas in our community. We had a great response for our visitors here. The tourists that were staying at a lot of these vacation rental areas and from residents. I think everybody realizes this is a major storm they there can always be changes. So the the people that are in jeopardy of flooding or storm surge, most of them have left those areas and gone to higher ground. And there's a lot of us that have been through a lot of these storms been watching it very close. We've taken it very seriously, but at the same time, there's a lot of us that are gonna stay. You're going to you're going to be sticking around. Yeah. For a number of reasons of my family's here are businesses that are here, and I got this position as mayor. I feel a responsibility to stay here in in hope to see the the city through this epic event that we're about to take place this more tomorrow morning in Douala afternoon and Mary. I mean a category, three storm has sustained winds of maximum sustained winds one hundred and twenty miles an hour. What could that mean for the panhandle. For the areas closest to the I the first twenty to thirty miles from the I. It's going to tear up a bunch of stuff that starts tearing roofs off. Shingles lays down a lot of trees. I'm sure that even with tropical storm winds which is projected for our community, we're going to see some power outages down trees, stuff like that. So our main focus is going to be assessed the damage that we will get and try to get everything back up and running. This is our fall. I. Break for for the kids in. We're going to try to get this thing back together time for Saturday's check in so we can have a good week next week. Here's hoping that is possible mayor. Thank you very much. Good luck to you and the community. Appreciate your time. Beg your up front press. Next, Nikki Haley surprise resignation as you an ambassador, who is on president from shortlist now to replace her and you wouldn't want to be attorney general, would you have you ever had that question? 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The following that replacement will not be meet now that we have that confirmed. This came though soon after her father talked about her is glowingly as one could saying that she would make a quote dynamite ambassador. So with Vonk Trump all off the list who is on the shortlist one name that I'm told is Dina Powell. She's a former deputy national security adviser who left the administration last year is she is she left the administration last year and is something that the president though also confirmed earlier tonight. Dinner. Certainly a person I would consider and she is under consideration. Jeff Zeleny is in council bluffs, Iowa right now where President Trump is about to take the stage for a rally, Jeff. What else do we know about who might replace Nikki Haley and when it might happen. Locate the president said earlier today. He plans to make this decision in the next two to three weeks. So it's unclear if it'll be done before the midterm elections. There's no real hurry in this because of course she said she will stay until the end of the year, and this isn't exactly central on his mind. He's going to be doing a lot of rallies stops like this over the next month. We're one month until the mid terms, but there's no question. There will be a lot of people vying for the position and as of now, I mean with a Vonk Trump for saying, she's not interested in. One of the reasons is gate. The reality is the financial disclosure she would have to go through for a confirmation hearing would be something that she may not be willing to do. So of course, Dina palace name is first and foremost, but also look at some senators who were leaving the Senate, perhaps Senator Bob corker from Tennessee chairman of the foreign relations committee. He's had a rocky relationship with President Trump as a possible name. That was mentioned. There will be a lot of people who are mentioned for this position. The question is though which direction will the president. Oh, he's cabinet is not exactly brimming over with women and minorities. So that is something that he's been interested in and concerned about. So we'll see if that is a factor for him pain. The president said earlier today, Nick Healy's, resignation did commas surprise to many in the administration, right? Jeff? No question people inside the White House. We're not expecting the president to make that announcement today, but I'm told that he wanted to make the Oval Office announcement to make it look like someone was not leaving him in anger that he was in charge of the departure we've seen so many people essentially residing by tweet or leaving by tweet. This was definitely a soft landing at an official Oval Office departure, but it was a surprise to John Bolton, the national security advisor to the secretary of state, Mike Pompeo. It was very closely held Kate. The key thing. The date on the resignation letter was October. Third, that is a week ago tomorrow that is when Nikki Haley met with President Trump in the Oval Office to give him that resignation letter that happened to come though the morning after the president mocked, Christine, lousy Ford at a rally just like this. Mississippi. So he did not want to publicly accept the resignation. Then in the middle of the cavenaugh fight was saved until today. It's one of the rare examples leave seen. The president kept us very close to the vest and virtually no one else knew about it, Kate and maybe the maybe the one and only that we at least have on the record right now. Great to see Jeff. Thank you very much out front with me tonight. Doug highs a former communications director for the r. n. c. Paul Begala former White House counselor to President Clinton and Julie. Her Phil Davis White House reporter for the New York Times. It's great to see you guys. It's great having your Julie, what do you make of the announcement? Quite quite a strange day. It was, and it is as Jeff just pointed out. It's fairly unusual to see somebody get the kind of Oval Office treatment on their way out the door. You kind of went out of his way, and we know that Nikki Haley has felt pretty free to disagree with President Trump. She wrote that up Ed in the Washington Post after the anonymous Ahmed, right. Ran in the New York Times basically saying, I've had my differences with the president, but I'm never afraid. The voice them. And so that's sort of been her sort of persona that she's forged within this administration and for him to affirmatively want to do that photo op with her and talk at length about what she's meant to this administration was I think, pretty significant. And I think there were interests her interests and his interest was in showing sort of an amicable parting, but I think we're gonna find out in the months ahead. What was behind this decision? Why she timed it the way she did. I think Justice, right? He didn't. She didn't want to leave, and he didn't want her to leave in the middle of the cavenaugh fight. But there's also the midterm election coming up and if Republicans lose the house or the Senate, which is a possibility, I think she did not want it to look like she was jumping ship at a at a difficult time. Fascinating me the timing gear timing here is a is an important thing. It's it is a fascinating thing. I mean, the president today said that that he knew he at least said that he knew it was coming. Listen to this. She told me probably six months ago. She said, you know, maybe at the end of the year at the end of a two year period. But the end of the year, I want to take a little time off what little, but just to reiterate as Jeff playing out sources tell c. n. n. John Bolton and Mike Pompeo were surprised by the announcement. In fact, it seems like almost all senior ministration officials and there are a lot of them were caught off guard by this. If it wasn't coordinated if this was sudden, why? What does what does it meet? The truth is I have no idea. I have no idea why they can't get even even this very important job. But this is a simple personnel matter, right it two years is a reasonable tenure yet for a investor. By the way, this'll probably ruin her chances when she runs for president. She did a very good job. She's one of the stars of this star-crossed administration and and yet they can't seem to even get the blocking and tackling, right? I have no idea why. I will say this Nikki Haley. Is you investor? She has been able to manipulate or not manipulate maneuver properly from allies and adversaries, and all the backstabbing. And that's just at the at the Trump White House. She's had to do the same thing at the UN. So it's taken enormous meta diplomatic talent to get to where she is. I just don't know why she is leaving so abruptly. I don't. It doesn't make sense diplomacy. Not your strong suit sales and sued. I'll tell you that, but I here on praising her though, praising publican. Publican. If you do break. Kidding. I'm kidding. I just like to do that with you except I'm not Haley. Did not shed much light today, Doug on why she's leaving. I mean, she said she she made clear that is not for personal reasons. She also said she believes in term limits which may come back to bite her later, but she made very clear one thing that she is not leaving because she has any presidential aspirations, at least in twenty twenty listen to this. I will say this for all of you that are going to ask about twenty twenty. No, I'm not running for twenty twenty. I can promise you what I'll be doing is campaigning for this one. But is is about twenty twenty four or more immediately as Julia was saying, is this about the potential of the president's part of getting shellacked in the mid term? We'll obviously we, some of us in myself included expect that the party will, at least on the house side, get shellacked in the midterms, but no one's going to blame the UN ambassador for anything that happens politically in any given congressional district, especially given that Nikki Haley has been such a star for this administration and with so many White House and administration employee's basically having a lifespan shorter than milk that Nikki Haley is not only able to survive this long, but been really able to thrive build relationships, build credibility, and be a steady hand at very unsteady times has made a real, not just a rockstar, but a real rock for this administration. It's not going to have any real impact on the elections, but certainly anything that happens in this White House, we know is going to be more choppy water that they have to deal with quit net and talk about the next choppy water for for for this. This, this. -sition who's going to replace Nikki Haley. She went out of her way and I know like physically dissecting this what they said in Oval Office, but everything was painting. She went out for way to a few simply raise the president. The president is family, especially Jared, an Vonk. Julie watch this. I can't say enough good things about Jared Nevada. Jared is such a hidden genius that no one understands we're a better country because they're in this administration. So do yourself out of the running tonight? Dina Powell former deputy national security advisor. She is the list on the on the shortlist of you? Well, because the president said, said that tonight, what are you hearing who could? Well, I mean, I think Dina Powell has a very good chance of getting this position not only because you know the president has mentioned her. He then said on Air Force, One two bunch of reporters that she would love it. She's up for this, you know, and just as Nikki Haley went out of her way to show that she was very close with Jared and Ivanka, and there was no daylight between that. They're also very close with Dina Powell. They are all of the peace. There is a dwindling number of people confirmed easily. I feel like she could be confirmed more easily than some of the people that Trump might choose for this postal forget. She already was confirmed for a presidentially nominated position in the Bush administration. So she's been through that process. She's she's done that. And frankly, a lot of Democrats who deal with foreign policy on Capitol Hill for for them. She's a known quantity. They, I think our trust her. More than they might trust some other people who the president might consider. Certainly more than Rick Grenell who's the ambassador to Germany right now, you know, he's been quite partisan his or he had been before he was in his current position. So I think that they would consider her to be a little bit more of a familiar face and she might have an easier time. But that said it's going to be a fight. This will end up being sort of a proxy battle over President Trump's foreign policy and his disdain for multilateral organizations like the UN and she will have to deal with that just as any of any nominee would have to deal with it. She ended up being the person. I think that's an excellent point. And Paul, you know, the president says all the time. It's almost like it's a verbal crotch. She says, oh, in two or three weeks, and we've heard it a million times. It could come in like six months at this point of what do you think? I think I think Julia right did this. It could be a proxy work, but it doesn't have to be here. Let me throw one more name again. Just going to ruin the person. Chances k. bailey-hutchison she is our bastard in NATO. Now the most important multilateral organization the world with respect to the UN the most powerful. Military lines in world history. She has been are invested there as the president has at times trash NATO. She has protected America's interests there. I think very admirably very well. She's already been confirmed. She's a former Senator was on the Armed Services Committee. She'd be confirmed in an afternoon and most importantly, wait, she's Texas Longhorn. So obviously highly qualified fell by it is like impossible to even deal with you. I mean, I'm a fan of Senator Hutchison investor hedge does. She would be a terrific choice. Yeah, she now never going to get it because he did that. The president today's at a lot of people dug want Haley's job. Do you think many people do want this post? I mean, we know that spots have been a challenge to fill in the past. Sure. It's it's one of the most high profile, foreign policy jobs in the world. Anybody who's interested in that line of work. That's the top job that you can get basically. But I, I would. I would echo what Paul said not just about Kay, Bailey Hutchison, but also about Dina Powell. And also it's very important. I think for Donald Trump when we know that he's had obviously struggled with women. It's one of the issues of of why. This didn't happen during the cavenaugh hearings and so forth. Donald Trump doesn't have a lot of women at the top of his administration that certainly more true in foreign policy. So having a Dina Powell or a k. Bailey Hutchinson, I think is a very smart move for the president moving forward to continue. The really strong work that Nikki Haley was was performing for the administration, all of you hidden geniuses in my mind, let it see who is correct, very hidden, very, very hidden for some of you. Thank you guys out front. Next. Lindsey, Graham says the Donald Trump jokingly asked him if he wanted to be attorney general, what Senator Graham dancer, man. 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President Trump asked Republican Senator Lindsey, Graham, if he'd want to serve as a Torney general Senator Graham telling our Rajoo that the president was joking, but was he, you judge for yourself? The conversation took place on the golf course of of course, and it went something like this according to Lindsey, Graham President Trump asking quote, you wouldn't want to be attorney general, would you Graham's response? No, I wouldn't give this up for anything and then Trump quote. Yeah, I didn't think so. That would be kind of stupid out. Now seeing that senior political analyst, Mark Preston most honest conversation we've ever heard in politics. Graham says it was joking about the attorney, general job. I mean, do you buy it. So let let's just pick this apart was Donald Trump joking, probably in some way, joking, it depends on the answer. I feel like one hundred percent, Donald Trump, no doubt was floating a trial balloon in, let's forget it was Lindsey. Graham who has come out and basically has provided cover to Donald Trump, which is what a few weeks ago said. He understood understands why he doesn't want Jeff session as general going in into a new year. So I don't know, and I bet you what I bet you Lindsey, Graham enjoyed being asked whether he'd want to be attorney general regardless, of course, memories up at twenty twenty six. He's going to say, I'm going to stay in this job as long as the good folks out Carolina. We're going to keep me there. That's dancing have to give by the way. Also tonight, though, Mark Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell. He's firing back at Hillary Clinton after Clinton warned Democrats in an interview that in her view, civility isn't possible with Republicans in charge. Listen to this. You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. That's why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and the Senate, that's when civility can start again. But until then the only thing that the Republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength. She told jock lighthouse, you lose millions of Americans who hold different political views from her all know patient until they get their way. More of these unhinged tactics. Apparently this is the left's rallying cry. I find this fascinating. I mean, Clinton is really going after Republicans here, but McConnell. I don't know if you could say is exactly quoting her correctly, but what do you? What's your take? I mean, I just feel moving and Hillary Clinton back into the mix and look at they put themselves back in the mix. She's made the comments because we're like re-litigating like days of Hillary Clinton as a US Senator and Mitch McConnell as a US Senator and then fighting over some some type of legislation. But look, it was very smart by Mitch McConnell to immediately sees upon those comments at a time right now when we've seen Republican support grow, certainly around the cabinet hearings. What he's trying to do is he's trying to send a message to the older Republican voters who still hate the Clinton's who are disgusted with the Clintons who he needs to come out in vote in the midterm elections, totally a strategic play in kind of a smart play, actually Mitch McConnell. So you've got no civility on one side, you got mob rule on the other. Here's your branding for the mid term. It's so uplifting greatest man. Thank. Out front. Next, a new CNN poll shows. The Democrats shows Democrats head of Republicans by double digits in the fight for congress. Will it lasts though until election day? And we also have new breaking details on the mysterious disappearance of a Washington Post contributor vanished after entering the Saudi Arabian consulate in Turkey. Howard Beck, and I've got your who's Chris Mannix on Bleacher reports, the full forty, eight LA's think differently. Do what they believe that playmakers around the Braun is going to work because the weight of. You're going to have known abroad. James, a lot of time in a long time in LeBron's. I'm not exactly sure other coun- forty eight is now available on Spotify and of course you can always listen, subscribe on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts over ever. You listen to podcasts. And I knew signs of a Blue Wave as CNN poll showing good news for Democrats come November fifty, four percent of likely voters in this new poll, say they choose a democrat of a Republican for congress right now. Forty one percent. We pick a Republican over the democrat, it's a thirteen point gap, the numbers giving hope. The Democrats on the ballot, of course, especially one in a crucial swing district in Iowa, a district that voted for Obama then for Trump Kyung. LA is out front with the latest in our series born to run. Northeast Iowa signs of turning tied in critical swing district. Did you vote for President Obama one time? I did, yeah. And how did you vote in this last presidential President? Trump. Eight seventy three rolled Larry block. I will born and raised. A typical first congressional district boater it elected twice, President Trump Clinton. Winning by four points. This November block says, he's swinging back to Democrats. What do you think of congressman versus the challenger? I would say it's probably just time for a little chain, so, and that's that's where a lot of think anymore vote. We like to see change involved. That changed challenger democrat, Abby thinking our age twenty nine, four years, a state lawmaker still paying off college loans. Running on her working class upbringing to protect blue-collar America. Howie tricky people in by state or in my country, and I was going to do whatever. Talking a lot about the forgotten people. That's what President Trump talked about, and he won this district President Trump in this ministration walked around my district around state of Iowa saying that they cared about working families and the last two years. Always all our policies that go after them. What democratic energy, fuel speaking. I was rise against two term incumbent Republican rod Plum. She's a head in the place. Way down by an ethics investigation was topped and recent fundraising at the first debate, blood slipped in through the back. How are you feeling about tonight? Discussion to the first baby tween the two candidates president's policies center stage. I believe the president, he broke Canada. He will break China in our farmers will come out a head the next twenty years. This administration decided to start a trade war on Twitter. That's not how you get something done. Thank you very much. A great campaign. Goodnight of. Turned us down for an interview. Talking just out the back. Is counting supporters. Like John Hoffman Lada card independent. He voted for Obama and then Trump while the trade war with China hurts. And now he wants Trump and blown to have more time. I think experience helps in anything you do in life. We'll see how that plays out with voters in the district. Blom is considered among the most vulnerable incumbents running in this midterm, if thinking our should win, she will be making history. America has never elected a woman in her twenties to congress. Kate young, thanks so much is really great. Look at that race. Really appreciate it from with me tonight. Larry Sabato is the founder and director of the university of Virginia center for politics forecast congressional races, of course, with crystal ball project. Great to see Larry, thanks for coming in. Okay. So what does this race that can was out the young took a great look at right there. What does this race in Iowa? Tell you about the larger landscape. The midterms right now. It tells you that in the swing districts and the first of Iowa, I district of Iowa is very much swing district in those swing districts. This year Democrats are doing reasonably to very well depending on the district. One of the most interesting things in the new CNN poll that came out is the gender divide. It's a theme that we've been talking about for a while now. But if you look at this new poll and you look at likely voters sixty three percent of women won the won the democrat in their district. Just a third want the Republican, you don't see nearly that margin when it comes to men. What does that mean in these congressional districts. Will it certainly helping Democrats great deal. It's pretty clear that women have been driving the surge in the Democratic Party in this particular midterm, their record number of women candidates from top to bottom of the ballot. And when you look at volunteers, activism and voters as CNN poll shows, you find that women are disproportionately democratic. Sometimes heavily disproportionate and men are still leaning Republican in most places. So the gender gap is becoming gender Chazan all depends. If that, if you know gaffer Chaz, them who actually turns out, of course is what is what's gonna matter in the end? What can let's say, Republicans, what do you what can Republicans do? Do you see in the amount of time and you're vast history and looking at these projections? Do you see amount of time to turn the tide on the gap that we're seeing that in these generic balance between de. Kratz Republicans right now. I think there's only one way to do it Kate. The Republicans will have to find ways not just one way but ways to get more Republican women out to vote Republican women by larger sticking with the GOP because our major divide today isn't gender, it's party are versus de. So they need to do everything they can to get women reengaged and out to vote. And if they can't do that, then they're going to lose more districts than they expect. All right, Larry, great to see you. Thank you. Thank you. Out front for us. Next Washington Post contributor, vanished without a trace. Was he murdered? We've new breaking details about this story. We'll be right back. Eighty cats and UCLA is Chris Wilkes is on March vannice three sixty five. Hopefully though some of those. Everybody coming out the Suva Brian, come check out some UCLA games right today to see the up and coming fragate March three sixty five now at apple podcast and spot upon. Breaking news in the case of a Washington Post contributor who mysteriously vanish. Jamalco shook g who has been a critic of the Saudi government. He disappeared after he walked into a Saudi Arabian consulate in Turkey. Last week, new report indicates some key surveillance video may be missing tonight. Alex Marquardt is out front with me. Now, Alex, what happened or at least what do we know happened that day at the consulate? Okay. We are learning new details. They're really just adds more layers to this mystery. The Turkish staff that works at that consulate was told to take the day off that cook, she disappeared. That's according to Turkish officials who spoke with the guardian newspaper that newspaper also reporting that security footage. As you mentioned from inside the consulate was removed and taken. They say by private jet back to Saudi Arabia. This was the last time all cook. She was seen just after one pm exactly a week ago. See TV cameras capturing him entering the Saudi consulate Instanbul since then the mystery has only deepened family friends and governments searching for answers. I know nothing right now. I know what everybody else does. This Saudis insist. He left the consulate alive. Turkish officials suspect Qassuf. She was murdered inside the consulate by hit team that flew in everything including entries and exits to the consulate, or being investigated. Turkey's president said departures and arrivals to airports are also under investigation consulate officials, even to journalists on a tour of the building to try to show they weren't holding him caught in the middle is cooked. She's thirty six year old, Turkish fiance TJ, Zhang? Geeze was outside as he went in to get a document so they could get married. She waited eleven hours. Shuki had been concerned that something could happen. Maybe it's. Better. If I don't go, he told his fiancee, he was worried that something might happen. She told the Washington Post cook. She had once been an adviser to Saudi Arabia's Royal authority, -tarian rulers over time. He became such a critic that last year he went into self-imposed exile in Virginia, the threats followed fee of the phone call or the ordering me to go. I don't. With no coat decree with just a someone for with the court and officials from the Royal corps who was close to the leadership and order me to be silent today. Saudi Arabia is all, but run by the young crown prince Mohammad bin Salman. The prince has tried to project himself as a reformer while continuing to muzzle and arrest his critics and knew he had a lot of pressure. I knew he particularly felt the pressure that was being applied to family to try to get to after an initial silence following the disappearance, the Trump administration and Capitol Hill have stepped up their demands on Saudi Arabia, fern explanation while cook, she's fiancee's weights. I am not giving up hope Jangi said, but I need to know where is Jamal? I have to know what has happened to him. Now there is the possibility that g. is still alive that he was smuggled out of the consulate to Saudi Arabia sources telling CNN that to jets belonging to a Saudi company that often works for the government brought fifteen Saudis to estan bul that very same day and left back to Riyadh that night. So it is possible that did does reemerge in Saudi Arabia, but Kate, it's not looking good. They still say he left the consulate that day. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for joining us. AC three sixty starts now. There was moonlight Anthony boarding. There was no show like parts on the EMMY award winning CNN original series returns for one last ride around the world. Can to Indonesia to story Spain. Far west Texas to the lowly side chairs. Anthony, Dane parts known the final episodes Sundays at nine on CNN.

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"Bad. He goes time for fasttrack. Sponsored by Rex Rex dedicated helping homeowners save using game changing technology a full-service experience in middleman, Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started and unlock your savings. Visit sell with wrecks dot com. One quick reminder bottom of the hour chance to see captain marvel with me Thursday night at the regal LA live. We got that coming up for you at two how many how many people you bring in. How many people we bring in? We are going to have twenty pairs of tickets forty people. All right. Let's see one side of the coin today while it's easy Lakers vs clippers call it. I can't pick against the Lakers heads. It's heads heads. Although very hesitant. Anybody was very Hessel though. I'm sure the clippers are favored look that upgrades. He's favored tonight the way the Lakers plan. I wouldn't be. Lakers by four. Okay. Like, some some people still think they can do. All right. Good. All right Mace. There is a wide receiver at the NFL draft combine named de que Metcalf. He's from the university of Mississippi injuries to his feet and neck limited his production in college where he never caught more than forty passes in a season. But he was cleared for full contact on January twenty second. He's the son of former bears guard Terrence Metcalf and also the cousin of former pro bowlers, Terry and Eric mental. Yes. Become the talk of the combine because he's somewhat of a physical marvel he six three two hundred thirty pounds posted twenty seven reps of two twenty five on the bench press has a forty inch vertical. Leap of four point three forty yard. Dash his body fat is one laws guy per cent. But again, he's never had a huge college season and only caught sixty seven passes his entire college career. He's flying up various draft boards. But here's the question say, you're an NFL team of the top ten pick. Would you be willing to use that pick on a guy who has never had a big college season? He's never even been the best receiver in his own team. Just because he's killing it at the combine right now Mel kiper has met calf going ninth. Buffalo would you with a top ten pick take a chance on decay Metcalf? No way. I John ten pick. Man, I need that to be a rock solid. This reminds me of you know, maybe remember when Willie Gault willing Tennyson remembered there was a guy David Boston who everybody loves Boston was like a physical marvel at a decent career. Yeah. I remember him sandy I asked I have a neighbor who covers college? Football in the NFL and asked him about it. And he said he goes he had he did have a killer combine, but there's rumors that he can't he's not great with his hand. I mean, there's a reason this guy has never taken off. I wouldn't they use a top ten pick measurable, Michael. By the way, loves them loves. I might exactly Michael no measurable cz are very very very overrated. Mislead very misleading. Yeah. I this question based on a piece I wanna credit by Michael David Smith from pro football talk upstart football leagues like the US fell and XFL have tried to position themselves as rivals to the NFL. But the alliance of American foot vans different the the F chairman Tom Dondon says that the new league is not an NFL competitor than instead. The new league is attempting to integrate with the NFL as much as possible they already air games on the NFL network and after three weeks ratings have gone up each week. They also have a TV deal CBS. They've been arrangement for players with the F to move seamlessly to the NFL their goal is to be a full-fledged minor league system for the NFL the XFL's come in next year, but they're going to attempt to compete directly with the NFL will the F ever successfully become a minor league system for the NFL. And who's got a better business plan? The apple or the. XFL well, competing with the NFL's risky, partnering with the NFL is smart. So I think the answer your second question is the F. Yeah. And the F is littered with guys who have had NFL success. The CEO of that league is Bill polling, right? All the coaches are guys like Mike Martz teams purry are in you know. And so my my answer is the F is has the better business model, and they have a better chance to succeed. What do you think? I like the app to. I mean, I I've been watching a game. But I hear did. I watched the first half of the first game and quarterbacks. Mike Burke Viki. Oh, yeah. From Arizona state. He got popped ditty. You got hit so hard his helmet came off. And then I'm trying to remember who is the quarterback on the other team. But you've heard of some of the court. Yeah. Right. Right. I and you've heard of every once in a while you'll get a player that that you've heard of. I think that you know, every year five to ten guys you didn't expect to make the team make the team. I think you know, if these guys want it bad, and I love stories I love guys who come out of the G league. Oh, yeah. In the NBA, and then get big contracts and just kinda take off. So yeah, I'm I'm rooting for all that's smart. I think the the minor league system thing is an interesting way to go. And they've made it easy to go from the F to the NFL. I like double af more than the F. I took the F from Tony Kornheiser. I call calls at the I like the double af I think it's catch here. All right. Hawks rookie trae young head. Put together career-best performances for three straight games. But yesterday that streak ended not because of anything young did. But because of the officials young was a Jek did early in the third quarter of Atlanta's game against the bulls after he knocked down a deep three and stared down Chris done young had already been assessed a technical in the first half. After exchanging words with done when the bulls guard slapped him on the back of the head, given the officials knew the implications of a second technical this call the staredown call 'cause young to be automatically ojected now. NBA officials have an incredibly hard job. I know some of these guys I know hard to do that job. And you often accuse me to be honest. Rightfully so. Yup. Of legislating stuff just because of one incident. Right. But I don't think ref should be allowed to give technical that anybody who doesn't say anything short of giving the middle finger or doing. Some other demonstrative act. I would actually make a rule that says if the player doesn't say anything or do anything obscene like flip you off or slam the ball at you. You are prohibited by rule from throwing him out. Would you support this ruler? My over legislators an idiotic call. I mean, it's absolutely. I mean, I watch the the the link to that. And it's absolutely. You cannot get jacked for staring at somebody. It makes. No, I can't believe they did it. But at the same time, I don't think you need a new rule you just need to tell the officials. That's not technical don't call that. But they did call it. I think we need to protect against themselves. The I just think you say, hey, Bobo. You don't Jack somebody this staring? This was a horror terrible. And by the west, the basic kids got on an absolute tear. I I'm surprised I have to remind because these officials are the guys who have risen to the top of their profession. I say this on the show a lot. But I don't think people get it. The NBA is an entertainment league. No one is paying to see the refs career paying to see trae young. Yup. I've often argued I know you're against it. And I think I'm kinda of in it to win here. I've argued for no foul out rule. Your howling at the moon that too. Yeah. Yeah. Because the wind howls in itself. Yeah. But I would I would argue for no foul out real Phil Jackson gave me this idea that after you get your six value can stay in the game. But every fight you commit after that is two shots and possession. So would be incredibly restrictive yesterday in the game. Yes, I understand that keeps it guy like trae young in a game, even after he falls out. But in this case, he didn't foul out. He just stared Iraq, which was absurd now that they throw them out. So I would I would put in a rule that prohibits the refs from throwing out a player who said absolutely nothing just staring. Yeah. Stakes makes no sets. Right. John. I had a dream last night. X a wait a minute is. Is it rated X share the dream? You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. No, it's a it's an actual day. We'd both love we've loved the show. I'm sorry. Oh one day. She comes back. She goes, I she has a dream about her daughter's elementary school teacher. Right. And then she mentioned it to another mom, and then it spreads all throughout the school. But what was your gigantic? Shoutout to that show. I'm sorry. And only shows I don't I've never heard of that woman. Her name is Andrew savvy was on episodes for a while. And she also played a president Montas on veep. Oh, yeah. She she is for my money, the funniest woman on television right now. Really good, yours your dream. Right. So I had a dream that I was hanging out with Bill Belichick K, and he was so much fun to hang out with really, and he was laughing and joking. He said all that stuff during the season. That's just for show. This is who I really am. What does that dreaming? Yeah. That's what that during meals thing. No. But I've heard that about Bella check. I think somewhere you've heard it too. And it just came to the four hundred dollars. About is Gregg Popovich say well, pops a great guy when he's not doing a sideline report, you know, Bella chick. If you talk to people that have played for them will say, he's a great guy. But he's just such a grump with the media that that he forgets I think guys like pop, and and Bella check forget that the media is their window to the public. So everybody thinks those guys are jerks. I sure Bella check is by the way Belichick has the distinction of being if not there's one of two people that was the worst interview ever done this show one in these were in the early Jerry Krause, Jerry Krause or Bill bell joke. Neither one of us is they were both on terrible. But I have a feeling that Belcher has assigned to them that that showed up in your dream that is actually real. So you don't interpret it anyway. No, greg. What you did you Greg June? How do you interpret that dream? I think the same way that we played the music for you think it was a it was he was stoned. And it just came out that way. What's your theory that somehow I've made peace with the Super Bowl? Interesting. How I Finally I think if a psychiatrist was here, they would say you're maybe on to let go of all of the the anguish I had when the Rams lost in the Super Bowl to the patch. And we can we make it in mission here on the Rams station. Patriots deserved a win. Rams didn't play good enough to win that game. They missed us girly. They didn't play smart. Jared Goff had a terrible game. Yep. And it came down to the fourth quarter. They had a chance to win it. They Wayne Phillips was the best thing about the Rams that day. No defense played really well. But at Brandon coaxing aim was there for Brandin cooks not drop that touchdown pass. It would have been it would have been in. They would have been ten ten the game was there for the taking in the fourth quarter and the patriots took it. Yes. So I'm glad to see you've made peace. I think that's all dream is all about all right back in two minutes with more fast track. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA back to fasttrack Jonah tube. All right may Steven Spielberg. Plans to propose a rules change that would bar films that debut on streaming services like Netflix or only have a limited exclusive Renan theaters from contention for awards. He believes these movies should be eligible for Emmys instead of Oscars net. Flicks won four Oscars this year three for the movie Roma. Right. Netflix responded with this tweet, quote, we love cinema. Here are some things. We also love access for people who can't always afford or live in towns without theaters. Letting everyone everywhere enjoy releases at the same time, giving filmmakers more ways to share art. These things are not mutually exclusive. And quote, you Steve Mason love movies, and you used to own theaters whose side are you on here? I'm on Spielberg side. Why if you allow movies to be shown everywhere in other words? Streaming. So so let's just take. Well, let me let me stop you there for a second. They'll let you make your point. You are normally for the little guy. There does not the little, but doesn't it make a point here that wouldn't they say access for people who can't afford or live in towns without theaters where you up in, mommy. There was probably one theater, right? We had a bunch of theatres. But what about people that don't? I mean, I don't know that there are places where they're not movie theaters. What about people who can't afford it movies? Are what are they getting now? Ten bucks a frat flicks? Yeah. But they're paying ten bucks a month. Yeah. Fourteen ninety nine if you and your wife and your kids go to a movie, that's fifty bucks. Okay. So here's here's the thing. If this is I it's there's both. There's I think you can make an argument on both sides. Roma which I did not love, but I respect and I understand why I'll find so coral my best director. It's it's a great piece of work. But it didn't it played in theaters for two weeks, then went straight to streaming right? If we do that you have to be prepared for movie theaters to go away entirely. Do we wanna live in a world where there are no mood? How long does a moving need to be an theater before it goes to TV in order for theaters to survive six weeks. Okay. If Netflix did that then I would say, that's totally fine. I understand it. But if they agreed to a six week release it would solve the problem. Generally, speaking movies have a six week what they call window, right? If you were to wait six week if net were to play the movie for six weeks in theaters exclusively before it streams, then I think it's available for an Oscar eligible for an Oscar. But if it goes if it shows on TV. Streaming. Yeah. And theaters at the same time, I think that's an EMMY there's apparently a movie coming out of Martin Scorsese movie, the Irishman of that is going to be a legitimate best-picture contender and they're arguing right now. Whether or not to do what they did with Roma if it if it came out today, it would be the Roma thing where it comes out for two weeks, and they go to it. So it'll be interesting to see if Spielberg gets this past right? The Irishman would either have to do what you're suggesting. Right. Do a six week theatrical run or it wouldn't be eligible for that. It would be eligible for him. I don't portent are Oscars in Stu in the minds of studios, shoe interact. Here's the Irishman they would probably if spill gets us past they'd probably release it right for six weeks in theaters. So here's I didn't even know what that movies about. Do you the Irish were known hat shirt? Here's the thing about Netflix. They're not the little guy. They spent twenty five million dollars campaigning with Oscar voters including for Roma for Roma for Roma. They had a couple of other move but mostly for Roma. You know, they're not the little guy. They spent a lot of money buying those Oscars. So I'm I'm also not in favor of that. All right. Let's do this. Minnesota timber wolves star Karl Anthony towns was involved in a really serious car accident sitting almost died. Two time all star said he was the passing in the passenger seat of a Hyundai Hyundai Santa Fe. I should know that Hyundai Santa Fe that had come to a complete stop in order to avoid a separate accident in front of them. The Hyundai was then hit by a semi truck. After the accident towns estimated that he had about a five percent chance of surviving. The accident question. What is the closest you'll ever come to dying? One time in Texas. And I still have absolutely no idea. How I got out of this the way I did. I was driving home one night. I had done the late news. And I was driving home on the freeway and came on. I grew up in California. Right. Went to UCLA spent some time in Louisiana, but less than six months, and so I'm in Texas in the winter and I'd never driven on nights. Right because I grew up. So I'm flying down the freeway, and I'm not paying attention. And I have to hit my brakes because for whatever reason something had stopped. Right. And when I hit my brakes might car began to spin, right? And I had no idea what to do about short against the spin. I we grew up doing. Okay. So my car begins to spin across the freeway now keep in mind, if I'm if I go anymore forward. I'm going to run into the traffic, and there are cars coming up behind me. So I had my seatbelt on. I was reserved. The fact that I was going to hit something hard, right? But I didn't know what I would hit. And my car spun complete three sixty twice and ended up pointing the wrong way on the freeway, but in the fifth lane in like. Unscathed. Wow. And I thought to myself that should have been it. I shouldn't I should not have made when I was in high school. I fell asleep at the wheel of a car that ran into a wall and ruined they found me. Yeah. And the core was total like a a wall of a development like I was drinking, and they found me this is what I was like seventeen they found me. And I had my seat belt on, but I was unconscious, and I told the car, but I lived, but so it'd be one of those two. Wow. Those are rough. Yeah. You've never had a close call in a car not in a car. But you know, when I stupidly jumped over that bar and broke my foot you'll that's where you had to come up. At a pulmonary embolism. Which was very was that is because some people have never heard of that. It's basically your stops. Right. I know it's a clot that they think might go to your heart. And I was okay. They found out. I was allergic to morphine and took me off morphine. And I was able to survive it that was but that was all together one of the stupidest incidents of my entire. I remember saying you I kind of played a small role in that you said I could jump over that bar without a bike. We had a guy riding a bicycle in studio over at Fox Sports west when we show on TV, and he was jumping over like bars. Like I jumped he would bounce his tires. Yeah. And then would jump in Mason goes well, that's not that hard. I could jump over that without the bike go. You cannot jump over that without the bike. So you j- you go all show you and you get up. Did you take your shoes? I took my shoes off. I it's a missing it shows, you're on YouTube to your credit. You hit the ground you go. I think I just broke my foot I go. Now, you didn't you just turn your ankle? Ray Allen was in promoting he got game and rail goes, yeah, you just turned your ankle. And by the end of that show. The paramedics were in there, and they rolled out of bed. When I when I saw rail and at the Olympics in two thousand I think in Sydney, he came into doing interview. And he said, hey, you're that guy. You ever that? Yeah. All right last one for me. I got a game tonight. The Lakers played the clippers at Staples Center. I have listed ten players. Some of these guys have played just for the Lakers. Others have played just for the clippers some have played for both the rule is they actually had to appear in a game to qualify. All. Right. So you guys tell me Lakers clippers or both Greg. You can play. Jay, you could play makes you Greg. Byron scott. Lakers clippers are both just the Lakers. Okay. Jay. Both steve. And I think that's both. Greg is correct. Rafted by the clippers then traded to the Lakers without ever playing a game for the clippers. So Byron is simply a Laker. He never never played for the clippers Antoine Jamison j Antoine. Jamison Lakers clippers are both both Mace both Greg I think just the Lakers. Jay and Steve or correct Antoine played for both Matt Barnes, Steve Lakers, clippers or both. That's a both. All right. Gregg, J both. Yup. I think Matt played for ever seen. He played for it. Now, it is to to to Jordan farm, argh Jordan far model. Jay. Lakers. Only right Mace both it is both Stephen Greg. Take the lead. Spencer Hawes J. Both. Okay. Steve. Is on the south bay Lakers right now. But I don't think he ever played for the Lakers. I'll say clippers he has not appeared in a game. So the lake the clippers only Greg and Steve sniffed it out. Yeah. He's actually on the south bay Laker roster. But has never appeared. All right. Gregg, four Steve four J to these teams always the same. Yeah. Mace Glen Rice. Lakers only. Hi, greg. Did you play the I'm gonna say Lakers only, also hijack? Yeah. Lakers. Played his last season with the clippers is a raw. All right. Who went I I'm Jay that was euros up Mace Mace. I think that was you right, Greg Jamaal Wilkes hall of Famer Jamal wills. I'll say both. Okay. Jay, both Steve I'll say Lakers only. No, it's both Ladd. Again. Another guy played his last year with the clippers. I great takes the lead five to four last chance. Saloon done the clippers. I j land Stevenson Lakers clippers are both. Both mace. God I'm trying to I'm going to say Lakers only. Okay. Greg. Definitely both. Definitely. Both is correct. He played for the clippers doing Terry. You're not you. Greg S six you have four and j has four. Jay that says a lot okay. Laughed Mace Nick young. Lakers only, Greg. Did he play for the clippers? That's what I'm asking you clippers. She's Lakers only. Jay, Lakers, only, all three view. Incorrect had a good run with the clippers. And then came play the covers before he played for the late LA. All right. That means everybody's in it. Because the last one is worth two and a half. Greg has six Steve has four Jay has four the rule is Greg s to go first does. Yeah. Greg Mike move Scala. Lakers only. All right, Jay, clippers Mace. Lakers, clippers are Moby. Both Jay he's on the Lakers right now. First of all J killed me going. From the clippers. Correct. But he never played it. Greg sniffed it out did not play. So Greg you win it the old fashioned way. Fair and square seven out of ten very impressive performance. Yahoo Scala was actually here's an interesting story was on the Sixers hanging on Philly gets traded to the clippers. All right. He flies to LA takes his physical. Then gets traded to the Lakers who happen to be playing in Philadelphia. And went back, but Greg you win and tonight on ESPN LA, Mike Scala, Lakers, clippers pre-game show at six, and there is no one to ban. Michael Thompson like Greg Bergman does that. So Michael yon, it'd be at six and I'll join him at seven thirty for the play by play. All right. You are hated. I am. I'm your hate even more. So this room, you're hated and all the Michael Thompson fence, h yeah, they're gonna come out of the woodwork going to say how are we doing? We're I'm taking a bunch of people to see captain marvel Thursday night at regal LA live downtown how we doing that. We are going to be having a trivia question. So yes, the answer something about the marvel universe. Wait a minute. But you're giving away twenty pairs of tickets each day. Oh, okay. Here's each say. So how does that work? We just give the question. And then you take the I have I have the questions for you. Yes. Now, we don't do all the moral questions on the air. Do we? Yeah. We do them on the air. So if you do so we'll do this next. Okay. Ask one of the questions if you get it, right? They get a pair of tickets. Okay. Get it wrong. We moved to the night. Got it got it. Okay. We got that coming up next. Mason and Ireland ESPN LA Mason in Ireland Thursday night opens one of the biggest movies of the year, captain marvel I'm a huge marble guy. I love marvel John you how are you on the marble? Don't think I've ever seen a marvel movie? Although Greg pointed out, I did watch Black Panther when I was doing laundry one day. So I had it on in the background there. You are what kind of forever conduct right? All right. So that I'm taking people to see captain marvel Thursday nights, seven o'clock at LA live, and we got very very simple, easy marvel questions. So you get you get one question. Right. You're in you're in you, miss it. You're out. Yup. All right. First up Jasper on the ten freeway. Hey jasper. Hey, what's up guys? All right. Here's your question who has a cameo in every marvel movie, and is known as the creator of marvel. Name the seriously three to one you're out or John and Montebello, you know, the answer. Who is it, Dan leaks? Larry great. You want me to put these guys on hold if they win. Yes. Stay on. Hold and do not go anywhere. All right. Okay. So that's one winner. John. Here's Ryan in Fullerton. Hey, ryan. Hey, how's it going? Good, man. Good. Are you ready for your question? I am I who is the actor that plays Antman. Paul Rudd that is for to hang on the line. We got three more to give away today. Right. We're doing five today. Five today. Robert in fun Tanna. Hi, robert. Are you good you ready? Yeah. Here we go. There have been two different actors to play the hulk in current in the current marvel universe named one of them, Mark Ruffalo, there, you go you go your in Edward Norton is the other. All right. So that's three. Let's go to Andy in Highland Park. Hey, Andy, you're on ESPN LA high. Good, man. Good. India? You ready for your question? I'm excited for this. Cool. Hey, we all right. Spiderman can tell when there's danger near what does he call? This this power. All of you fighting fan. You're in robbers. Good job as he on Thursday. Okay. We got one more today, by the way, we're going to do this again tomorrow where you do this every day until Thursday. Well, and then five more and Thursday up. All right. So Pedro and chino is online. Hey pedro. Are you pretty good yourself? Good doing good, man. You ready? Yeah. Here you go Santos had to retrieve all of these in order to be the most powerful being in the world. Then Finnity that Pedro good for you, man. That's a hard one. There we go. All right. So John Ryan, Robert, Andy and Pedro are the first five in. They get a pair of tickets to the marvel screaming on Thursday night. We'll do five more pair tomorrow five Wednesday and five Thursday. Are you going to get them popcorn? I guess I'm picking up the Bill for popcorn. And normally when you do those screening sometimes regal does. So we'll fight. We should find out. We should find out. All right, John. I've got something. Weird for you. Good weirdo. The better. There are always weird questions at the combine. Yes. So I've got some of them. Okay. Good number one. Now. Do you want me to answer them as if I'm a player, ask them as if you're a player answer vampire? Okay. Good. Do you have this was an actual quest? Okay. Asked of cornerback prospect, Kris Boyd from Texas. Okay. Do you have both testicles? That's an actual question by my answer to that would be. Yes, why do you ask? Right. And they don't they don't have to tell you. Why? It's just throw you off. They're all they're all super weird quest. And by the way, if you're a player in they ask you a yes or no question. Wouldn't you be smart just to answer? Yes. Or no. And not elaborate. Yes. So in the case of this guy. He should've just said, yes. Yes. That stared right back at them question. Number two. Do you find your mother attractive? Yes. Weird question. It is very bedding. But I think they want they want the guy to say what you just said. Yeah. What do you mean is they want to see if you lose it? Okay. I know how I would answer this one. Do you like men? Yes. I would do that just to mess with them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. S? We that. Again. Do you like men are you asking me whether or not I'm gay? Do you like men, none of your business? Okay. Now, that's an answer. I don't know. How team would interpret that? Right. Maybe they find that. Ask me that again. Do you like men? Yes. Do you? Yes. Let's go to a gay bar. Yeah. All right. This is weird. Is your mother a prostitute? Oh, yeah. That was the guy from I think Jeff Ireland was in on that. How is that a legal question that was to Dez Bryant I think like years and years ago because somebody it was it was two desperate y'all yahu sports reporter, and he answered no my mother is not a prostitute. How would you answer that question? Yes. And she's quite expensive. Are you interested? I mean these questions are so offensive. I would I would just answer to mess with these people. What is your murder weapon of choice? Can I say, I wouldn't commit murder. Do I have to answer the question to answer the question. Okay. Rifle with a scope that mean, that's very specific. Yeah. You don't want to specific. No. You know, why they have to be anywhere near the guy. If I if I screw it up. You can't come back at me. Mine is Boeing air. I'm going to be well, you would be a far away to you would be like completely across the street. That's what I wanna be. I wanna be across the street. Okay. I got I got a few more of these. Plus, we'll circle back to the big story of the day. Which is the disaster. That is hey, hey, hey. I already told you did leeann answer this. Okay. Speaking questions. This question did Leonardo DiCaprio Jack Dawson not fund a piece of wood to save Kate Winslet just like the Lakers could save their season. I will answer that weird question. I feel like I'm at the combine. Yeah. I will answer that weird question tuck it I want an answer on my would might driftwood that saved. Kate Winslet will not have the same floating wasn't a door or just a piece of big. It was just a big piece of wood. All right. And it was a jor wasn't a Adams here. Now, it was a door. And you know, what if he just would have grabbed a bigger door to save himself? We're going to need a bigger door. Yeah. All right. That's coming up next. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. Right. So so you you've writing off the Lakers. Do they not have the same chance? Kate Winslet had when the Titanic went down and Leo founded door for her to float on and she lived to be ninety five. She did live to be ninety five. That's abs-. Absolutely, correct. Here's the way, I look at the Titanic. Hang on a second. I don't think you're giving us proper chance. There is a chance. Steve there is a chance. Here's the. Problem the door playing the song is just mean for the Lakers the door who's on it? It can only fit one person yelling wives, you'll get a bigger doors shit g by doors. Did she not just eventually shove him off like when he sank to the bottom? I think he held on for as long as it could. Then he'd if you're her aren't you trying to get him like up onto the and like not let him sink to the bottom. So let me ask you a question if the Lakers are adore. Yeah. Who's on it the one person? No right now LeBron on the door. But and it's freezing waters. Here's what the rest of the guys are playing for in these one thousand nine hundred whether they make the playoffs or not, right? And I yelled in the whole, I doubt. Yeah. Who wants the other doors kill seriously? Because are they not playing for like the question, Robin? Magic going to be asking now after that the Bockel. Yup. The other night in Phoenix is okay. Who wants to be your next year? Who went I if you're gonna let de Andrea and run right past you and not even making attempt to stop him. But that was an embarrassed. You know, I it it's you know, LeBron's going to be here. We knew where the two guys he split off to go back and look at that. But that was embarrassing. Well, the whole loss was missing they had a twelve win team. You know that makes it wasn't just that game. Think about some of the losses. They've had this year. They lost to the Knicks que they lost to New Orleans without a ninety day dwelling on it or Orlando twice. Cleveland memphis. The Knicks Atlanta, New Orleans and. Phoenix come on win half those games. And I can't to win the games that you that are there for the taken. And I can't tell you. How many of those games they they would have won had? They just made free throws in which weird is they've played really well against some really good team at the Boston. Wind was a quality went, right? Golden State win on Christmas day was a gigantic win. They killed them. And by twenty eight. So, you know, it's in there and okay, by the way quit sending me this this sediment Ireland. You know that if LeBron didn't get hurt the Lakers would be in the playoffs. Yes. I know that of course. But LeBron did get hurt and he's thirty four. And when the Brian like LeBron took games off in Cleveland. Yeah. They still made the NBA finals. Yeah. All right. If you you can't use that as an excuse to completely missed the playoffs in the NBA. There are thirty teams sixteen make the playoffs and fourteen. Don't right now, they're one of the don'ts. You know? What here's the thing. They have LeBron. I'm gonna put this in game of thrones terms. Lebron know who's who's the king of the north Jon snow will let let not anymore, Robb. Stark was the king in the north until they killed them. It's saying now, Jon snow is north. Lebron was the king of the east. Is not throw in snow. King is not the king of the west. I mean, he came away tougher conference. John snow, bend the knee to dinner. So he's no longer king in the northeast see key gave it to her SRI slept. He slept with her first. But then he gave it they sleep together. Are you kidding? What show are you watching? Of course, they thought they didn't what is wrong with you. Did they sleep together? Of course, they did and areas and John snow. Yeah. Yeah. They were in bed together. And then an interior walked up and was like all upset the knee right after that. He'd been a weak moment. Before she goes. Okay. And that can. You've been the knee. I'm giving it up. Yeah. I guess he's girl. You know, remember in the beginning. She was just she guys were oh her. In her possession. Rather brother p by the way, her creepy brother when he gets it in the first season. Yeah. On the hand or whatever that is. That is fantastic on the head. That was great. Yeah. No. I mean, this is the thing about the Lakers is I really think that the trade deadline torpedoed their season. It's not over yet. But it you have to admit it torpedoed their season. Well, maybe but I think LeBron getting hurt torpedoed their season. But the since the trade deadline. Okay. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Brian got hurt on Christmas day, they were ninth in defensive rating before the trade deadline. They've been twenty ninth in defensive rating after the trade deadline. That's not an accident yet. And that's what if they make coaching change. That's what's going to get that coaching. Sapphire does that they couldn't get these guys to play defense. Yeah. Which is sad. Because Luke is a great guy. The other thing I'm coaching staff. I'm around them all the time, really work hard. And it's it's going to call. Cost them their gig. I think if they missed the playoffs any chance they keep them if they miss laughs. I don't know was that a quick enough answer. I think you're I think you're right. I mean that story that bubbled around about LeBron's people. This stuff doesn't happen by accident. Lebron's people would rather he play for a different coach. I've heard enough I've seen LeBron does when he gets to town. Yeah. I, but I always said, and I still feel this way. Even though it's extreme long shot. I always felt like Luke could win his way out of that. Like if they went on a run and made the playoffs, but even base there's something about. Reggie Miller said this morning that if the Lakers win all three games this week. He thinks they'll make the playoffs. I don't know if he's done the math. And if they win all three games this week, the Lakers, I think would need to fifteen and four and have the other team's goalie s than five hundred right? And so that's a big by the way that eight there four and a half out of the eight. Yeah. San Antonio holds the tie-break. Yep. You know? So it's not impossible. If you know, I'm shameless Laker apologist. I'm not completely giving a lot to apologize. But but I think when we look back on this season. We're going to look at that list of losses. You read like two minutes ago. Yeah. Those losses killed them. The Cleveland Knicks the Knicks, Elaine. Yeah. Atlanta at home. Yeah. Are no no Atlanta was here. Atlanta was in Atlanta. Yeah. But you know, there was no loss worse than the Phoenix loss. And you know, what I what I'm expecting to see tonight. Knicks at home was pretty bad. It was bad. I'm expecting to see. Some pride. Some urgency. Some desperation not in the fourth quarter. But in the I corps. We're getting information important information from Chanel. Thank you. Now. Mythbusters? I think did the Titanic raff scene, and there was room for both Leo and Jack why didn't he was the one who pride his frozen hand off of hers and let him sing. That is true. She let go that is so sad. She could've saved Mehtab been celebrating their hundred hundred wedding anniversary a he lived to ninety five knowing that she let him go. Let him go. She dumped the Honey live your yourself till you're nine. Exactly panic, and I had taken that jewel to the jewelry store, and yes, she threw it in the ocean the ocean she threw him in the ocean might as well throw. Long throw stuff in the own. She didn't respect anything. She did. So the Joel Joel and the ocean at the end. So you know, she did. All right code next is who's in purgatory Dettori, I saw Sodano and I saw Kirk Morrison. All right. I mean here it's time Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. Hey, it's time Kirk Morrison's here. I'm here tonight. I was walking in nice. Let's let's get after it. Let's do it. It was great seeing you Saturday. John, by the way, great scene. Where did you see him? He was courtside. I never get. Oh is that right? Were you court site? No. I was courtside at my home. That is on like tonight. I've got the best seat in the house the house, I'm flipping that's for my for my money. That was the most disappointing loss of the seats. Twelve win team with your season on the line. What would just watch it because I'm flipping back and forth from watching the UFC two thirty five. Yeah. Which was really, wait. Is that the the event where the guy who won hurt himself celebrating? Did you guys see that over the weekend some guy one and then he tried to do the worm? And he bought no he he basically belly flopped onto the deck and hit head first. No, worm knocked himself. Our ms. Game. That's a young man. So I don't know if that was UFC yourself house yet, I'm watching half. Michael was Michael was keeping one eye on a boxing match on Showtime boxing was UFC. It was warrior seventy Sixers and then disaster like it's Lakers sons, and you're like in from the reactions that you're watching on Twitter because I'm watching half of it. Because like they're playing against the sun's out. Later. Right. Yeah. All of a sudden you start looking at people tweeden. And I'm like, oh, I got to turn this guy. It wasn't a game that you would turn on now. Once you've got to the third quarter. And it was like holy hell, let me go with so George Mason. And I were talking about Brandon Ingram earlier, and the fact that since the all-star break, he's averaging twenty eight and seven his percentages are through the roof. Fifty eight percent field goal. Forty seven percent three seventy five percent free. Throw those. You you run those numbers. I know it's a little bit of a small sample size seven or eight games. But those numbers are up there with the first team all NBA guys twenty eight and seven with those percentages is he enhancing his chances of being LeBron's running-mate next year or as Mace puts it is he just making himself. Radim them. And I see he's more treatable. I think that basically Kyrie Irving is not resigning in Boston you, where's he going? I think he's either coming here is going to the Knicks come here. I've been saying he's coming here for months. Why would he go running back to the human Roddick's of that after after him and LeBron did the apology tour, whatever I think that that became way more real I as soon as that stuff happened, right? As soon as the fed wops song on Instagram came out. Right. That became more of a thing. Because LeBron again, a mean says it best he doesn't leave breadcrumbs Aleves the bread loaf. Right. That Instagram video shows you he's like, hey, how about we do reunite? So I think that's possible. And I think that if Kyrie Boston, then they're not trading. Jason Jason Tatum. The lakers. Kirk. He's tweeting rooms twenty one and they have them on a rookie deal. Yeah. It it's it's the bread crumbs. I mean, the the Brit loafs. Like a baguette. Lebron James Twitter. You know, obviously, let there was no reason for him the re tweet the video of Roger Strickland, and boy guys and realize that that the Lakers, I'm not allowed to talk about players on your teams. But the Lakers can bring in a max free agent and keep Ingram in your scenario. They could do one and keep the other right? But if I'm if I'm Brandon Ingram, where do I have the best chance to grow as a player because him choices because think about this? If he if he's still here next year in kyri does come he's now the third option, he's not number two. He worked for James worthy. He's gonna he's gonna keep getting pushed down the ladder. And you're seeing what we've been hoping to see all season long. Remember, it was to a point where men LeBron brand new you're on the same court is is not going to work. And now it is working, but it's working at a point where the seasons almost overnight may not even have a chip. I've just seen those guys I've seen that yet. Though in George I've seen that work for those those Kobe Powell championship teams. Kobe was the one powers the two and then you had a bunch of star players. Lamar Odom, Andrew bynum, oh all going after three. But those guys are role though, it's different in the mar one coming in trying to fill it up like Brennan England when it come in and try to fill it up. He's not coming to pass. I e the six-man man like Lamar Odom with George ESPN says the Lakers, what's the percentage? Yeah. One and a half percent. So there is a chance not not great though. It's over tonight if they lose, oh, if they Reggie Miller said this morning that they have to win all three games this week. Oh, yeah. Denver Wednesday Boston Saturdays, and they go in order to keep the dream alive. Yes. And we've been so good on the road. And it's it's very possible that could be over in those situations as as much as you want to give them a chance they can lose two. Right. And then tonight, it's still over then at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Danny when mentioned you're listening to Casey in Los Angeles. Good. I'm glad you did. Makes you dressed up today. What happened? I just wore shirt. Oh, okay. Yeah. You'd think a button down, but it's weird. Yeah. I know I'm trying to up my style game. Okay. Cool this year we already March. I'm getting it right for spring. You're saying I'm phasing it in spring fascist spring. Exact I saw you look up there. John. I saw you look up. What what what do you think? When you see that those headlines said the Lakers season is in peril and his over. Well, actually, no Kirk. That's the head of the world's biggest later. Allergies from the break. I can't even making skews for them when they lose to Phoenix. That's a twelve team league. And I think Ramona put it put it in an interesting way, they're running out a real estate. Okay. They have nineteen games left and they're five out of a playoff spot. That's not a lot of room to work with. So I if they weren't going to kind of kick it into gear in Phoenix when are you? Yeah. So I'm George I think they have to win tonight. I think that Reggie Miller is probably right. They have to sweep this week. And let's see where it goes from there. They've got a small chance to save the season. I would argue that what a lot of these players are playing for is to see who plays with the Brun next year. Correct. You know, they're going to these nineteen games are going to be closely watched by magic, and rob to see who wants to be here in who doesn't what's devaluation on Lonzo? Well, they like him in liberals importantly, LeBron likes them. But do you guys bring you value? Do you guys bring ones with? Okay. Let's say these games, don't go. The Lakers way this week. Do you even bring Lonzo back? Oh you've seen enough that he plays. Well with the Brian. Yeah. You necessarily need to you shut down the Brian. If you're mathematically eliminated. I don't think they will. I think they should do whether they whether they you think they should or not. I just well may you know, him better than I do George would he allow that has just never done it. History two weeks off in the middle of a season. And that was while they were still trying to change something. So why wouldn't he take the time off at the end of the season? Yeah. I I don't understand. Why would play? That's sure, but this asset that guy goes down, you protect that you protect that at all costs 'cause there's only so many miles in and to you know, the anybody somebody somebody needs somebody needs a summer off. Yeah. Hey, I I'm normally not pivot guy. But I gotta ask him. So I gotta ask you usually John's joining. The pivot. Here's here's mine skills. What is going on with Todd Gurley in the knee and the spinning right is arthritis? And I can I can tell you from people who I've talked to beforehand before type was drafted. And when he got drafted after the first year in the second year, and you know being here in Los Angeles in the third year. So when he got his deal last year. Same people told me the same thing that coming out of Georgia tug early had a shelf life. He was only going to be good for five six years. That's true Kirk and they knew it why give them forty million guaranteed. What they got. They got ahead of it. You know what? I mean, they got ahead of it. They gave him a contract after the third year. So he's got three years max at a high level. We think that aren't those years four five and six this. Did you? You thought he had four years next year. So it's, but why give him a contract after year three if you know, he's got four years left. That's it. He's got a four to six year win. So did they miscalculate because now they're talking about? Well, you got some of that money at the end is not you know, it was really about the upfront money. They can get out of the contract. And I know we're gonna look at the total value. But it was the guaranteed money that was really for about two or three CS. And now, they gotta use them a little bit or sparingly or mean, all this stuff. They had to get out in front of it is that what happened at the Super Bowl. What do you mean the the lack of Todd Gurley at the Super Bowl? No. I think he was healthy. I I've said it before I just felt that he'd lost his confidence. Yeah. But if he's if he was healthy. Then why are we now talking about arthritis in the knee procedure supposed to be getting it's probably trying to spin the was T R? Yeah. He's trying to do all that. I know what Kobe did his his Germany get on that plane. But but the knee is it he's always going to be like that. I remember he had knee injuries in college. This isn't surprising us is just that. When he got hurt again this year. They're like, okay. He may not have and really think it was confidence and not the knee. I I think carries in the Super Bowl Carey's. He was he was spectrum stats had enough the fastest player in the field. He knocked Patrick Chung into next week. He was fine. But to me that it was. Shave. I in that first drive there in the loudest place in the biggest game that he's ever been in his career. Biggest gains you're saying he choked. And he dropped a pass. That was intercepted one right through saying you're talking about in the New Orleans in New Orleans. Yeah. And he shrunk, and then he had this opportunity again same thing he dropped. So he shrunk in the moment. You are saying he shrugged you're saying that this new thing or thrice all this stuff that doctors are saying only gives them another year or two left. It is career, and he chokes and big moments where you say, and he's got a guarantees three years saying it could be both both. Okay. Remember, listen to what you mentioned the breadcrumbs. They're leaving them out there. Oh, we want to decrease his load for a minute. That tells me there's arthritis. There's something wrong with that knee. When anytime somebody says, they want to decrease a workload. That means that they're concerned that he has injuries this. I mean, they're going to bring back C, J Anderson CJ may get a little more money somewhere else. CJ's at that point in his career where I've already won. Championship. And it sounds like you need another running back. You can maybe you can draft one. We'll see. But hey, his Antonio Brown handling his situation. The right way. Yeah. He's trying to force his way out is it working not going to work March seventeenth is the deadline that they pay. The Steelers have to pay him two point five million dollars. It seems to me the more. He talks the more teams get turned off. I mean, he just he he's it. It's kind of a me me me thing. And what's what's that? Okay. Tonight. Not that I want to be superficially here. But what's what that blond moustache? What's that all about if he's on the shop with O'Brien? Shop with the Brian you're on the LeBron you should die your hair should bleach. It it's called the shop. Right. I guess so not that type of shop. Honestly, he's trying to force his way out if he forces a release that he can go to any team that he wants now if your best fit for him the best fit. I would go up to that team over in New England has been kicking my butt over the last couple of years. But that only happens if what he's released if he's traded do I want to go to the raiders in a rebuild. Do I want to go down to San Francisco and a team Arizona's ears like think about the team that everybody is saying, oh, but he say might be fun to play for Sona with who with Kyla Murray? How's it gonna be caller Murray because you don't buy you're buying that everybody's buying that? You're not not to April twenty fifth April twenty fifth. I believe anything you tell me, but April twenty fifth is the I think this is all posturing we've been here before last year. Do you know at this time last year three hundred sixty five days ago last year, this time who was the number one quarterback coming up homey who was. The mock drafts had which quarterback number one overall. Josh rosen. No Sam darnold Sam darnold. Sam darnold was number one Baker Mayfield weasel this way into the top. And guess we're Baker Mayfield was post Columbine. He was in from all the mock drafts I looked at. I studied this over the weekend. He was sixteen or lower. And all of a sudden he becomes number one column. Mary right now is the hot thing. But I'll tell you this March thirteenth. This is throwing day. He'll have his day. He'll have is throwing session, and we'll see more. So I'll know more as I gather more information. And to me, we still haven't got to the period or the time that the negativity starts to come for. Sure. I mean, we got we have a lot of time. Where teams can start throwing out. I'm already sick of hearing about him. Yeah. I'm like because I don't need to hear rental defensive players to you. Don't think people were like I don't need a quarterback. Apparently, it's like the big depth. There's so much defense, and George what do you think? Yeah. I mean, look, I I think that look I saw the same story that you were talking about in the bullpen earlier. We saw story about where he was drafted last year. He'd be the fifth or sixth quarterback take her back. Murray be behind who who are you taking who you taken out of my whom I like off just like people are like, oh how scholar Murray, but I'm like, I'm still taking Sam darnold. Josh Allen Baker Mayfield. Where are the Ohio State could go when asking us, I think he would be in that six seven range. Right. Remember, remember these kids only got one year of tape. Maybe Josh Allen is the guy that that Colin Murray would would pass if he was in last year's draft. Maybe people keep talking about the cop to Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson walked into probably wanted to greatest defensive jazz in the NFL. He was a game manager for three years. Yeah. To a point where they told him what to do with the football that if he hands it off to marshawn Lynch, they went back to Mexico. It's just crazy from everybody to compare him to this guy but do walked into one of the best situations ever any. And if we all right. Let's do it. After it. Mason in Ireland, George Kirk ESPN LA.

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