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"lani guinier" Discussed on Asian American History 101
"And we likewise have shown solidarity. There's an iconic photo of doctor reverend barn, who's their king at the beginning of the self on March with all the others. And they're all wearing lays. Why are they wearing lace because they were offered by a Hawaiian pastor to show the solidarity. We are with you, right? And when the reason it's important, one of the many reasons, right? Beyond kinship and personal affinity is their strength in numbers, right? And so when we look at our individual populations, we're at 24 million African Americans are at 47 million and LatinX communities at 61 million, right? Out of the 330 million. So individually, right, we all are small minorities, relatively speaking. But together, we are talking about, you know, very close to over half of the American population. And so that's why a lot of this comes back to political power, right? And that policy work, which is how do we get solutions that address the needs of our communities on a mass scale. Yeah. And that's how we do it through solidarity. Yeah. What are some of the other organizations out there, partner organizations that are doing some good work and fighting anti AAPI hate? Yeah, well, first off, let me say that, you know, stop AAPI hate is a collaboration of Chinese for affirmative action in San Francisco. San Francisco state university and their Asian American studies department. And AAPI equity alliance and we're in Los Angeles. And we continue to work as a partnership. And that's what I love is because we're grounded in local community work, but we come together. We've decided not to form a separate organization because we want to continue to have that foundation. And that base of understanding and collaboration. Other groups we work with include Asian Americans advancing justice, Saul deaf, the sick coalition, we also work with local groups. So my organization AAPI equity alliance is actually itself a coalition of 40 community based organizations that together serve in represent the 1.5 million AAPIs in Los Angeles County. So we're 1516% of the population in LA and so it's by working together and we've seen this for 45 years. That produces dividends. And so we do that. We take that same approach. Statewide, as well as national media. So our country has many people know, was built on colonialist mindsets. How do colonialists mindsets, white supremacy? How do those things contribute to the perpetual foreigner myth and anti AAPI hate? Great question. Yeah, I mean, I think we have to really interrogate how so many of the policies, laws, and just general beliefs are based on white supremacy, right? And people don't, I think in our community don't really understand sort of how we get racialized. If you think of the racial ladder, right? And I think a number of legal scholars have talked about this, including lani guinier, esteemed law professor for a number of years. So on the racial ladder under white supremacy, whites are at the top, African Americans are on the bottom. And we're kind of in this in between place, right? Where we don't necessarily experience all the challenges that the African American community does in terms of policing, police violence, lack of educational opportunities, mass incarceration. But what it causes is that, yes, as you pointed to, the perpetual foreigner and the model minority myth, right? So the perpetual foreigner is, hey, if you don't look white, then you must have come from somewhere else. So it means two things.
"lani guinier" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Do want to get to the point of the effects of the experiment that we've been through nationally as a result of the pandemic. Pushing universities to drop temporarily the requirement for the SAT. I want to go to Freddie, Freddie. And some of what you I'd like to hear you say now would be in response to what Cheryl has been saying, but I note that your take on the SAT is that it's no more problematic than any of the other indicators that might be available for college admissions, but I want to know, do you think that it has an advantage? Is there a benefit? Is there something good about the SAT test in itself? Sure. I mean, I think that it both screens in a particular kind of vulnerable population and screens out a particular kind of privileged population. So it's easy to talk about these dynamics. And think about, okay, privileged white kids get good SAT scores and they get in underprivileged students of color get poor SAT scores and they get screened out. And so that's contributing to inequality. But in fact, there are certain populations of students for which the situation is reversed. You can find individual people. Such as Thomas Sowell, who I don't agree with very much, but he is a black intellectual of great renown, who has talked about the fact that in his background, there were a few ways that he could make himself legible to the institutions, the gatekeepers of American meritocracy. But for students like that, poor students of color who don't go to elite private schools who can't afford college consultants who don't have a lot of the means of access to other people have one way that many of them have been able to crack into the elite is through a really, truly impressive SAT score. I think it's important to say that for the most privileged students, the SAT scores often, one thing that they can't control or more realistically at their parents can't control. So although there's many much anecdote about people flourishing in SAT prep classes, the actual research record is not very good in terms of how reliable these courses are able to race or is particularly on the SAT reading. And so you have some students who are born into disadvantage and who are laboring quietly away in high schools that don't have the resources to be able to give them everything that they need, who can't afford to be offensive or to go build houses in Guatemala for a summer. The holistic criteria that colleges look for. What they can do is go into that room on some Saturday morning as a high school junior and rip the SAT in half and say, this is my marker and get in. I'd like to describe the other side of that too, which is part of the problem with the GPA. And there's many problems with GPA. GPA is a indicator that can be leaned on. If you are a parent who is someone with a great deal of social capital, if you have money, if you have institutional power, if you are paying for your students education as many, many people are in private high schools. You have the social capital to be able to lean on teachers to give your students better grades. This is a sort of a known reality. There's research out there about that about more affluent parents having the sort of muscle to be able to ensure that their students get stronger GPAs. Oftentimes, what you have is students who are stellar on every front in their academic package who have good GPAs who went to the best private schools who have all kinds of extracurriculars that make them look more attractive. But the one thing that they can't force their way into or by their way into is a superior SAT score. And in fact, I would argue that it's precisely those kind of students. The idiot sons of privilege who stand to lose the most from the from the SAT and dengue gain the most from getting rid of the SAT because it's where there's the least wiggle room. It is the closest thing we have to a consistent indicator. It's really important to remember the SAT didn't just emerge out of nowhere. There are high schools where the valedictorian gets a 3.5 GPA. And there are high schools where the top 20 all have better than a 4.2. There had to be some sort of a consistent standard from school to school despite the fact that there are wide differences in average GPAs between institutions. And the SAT was that, and so I think the idea that getting rid of the SAT just straightforwardly hurts the most privileged is not actually in keeping with the data. Okay, so I'm going to concede something as a debate here. This is against my interest. I think the strongest point Freddie has made thus far is the example of the disadvantaged kid who doesn't have the wealth to accumulate marks of distinction. I'm the mother of offensive, by the way. But. He can distinguish himself as willing to do work at it on the weekends or whatever to lose blue in the face to raise the score. God bless him, all right? And so I will concede that this is the point that makes it hard for me to take the yes position. When I said yes with humility, I think it's very easy for me to make the case for the test optional movement because it gives maximum agency to young people to decide and there are going to be some people like this example, right? The harder question is whether or not like the University of California system. They should just be, you know, say no to tests, test free completely. We won't even consider them. That is definitely the harder question. But what I'd say is that I still believe that and let me make it clear. And then I have been on admissions committees. I've been on scholarships committees as an educator for 30 years. Looking at a file is. A holistically, which is what should be done. I think it's past time to take the learning of decades of affirmative action and looking holistically at a file and deemphasizing hard numbers like GPAs and SAT scores to try to figure out, you know, who is this human being? What are they going to bring? It forces us to interrogate what is merit. And there are studies out there which show that lani guinier was a pioneer of this work that so called affirmative action candidates tended to have lesser SAT scores, even GPAs tended to come closest to meeting the mission, the professed mission of universities, right? So I still support the idea of it being optional or de emphasized. I'm still wrestling with whether we should just throw it out completely. But I think if I had to and I'll do it for purposes of making this colorful for this debate. If I have to declare a position, I would say, not just test optional, but test free because I want universities to be forced to be equality innovators to be forced to do the work of developing fair admissions processes that really screen for the kinds of human beings that are going to contribute to society that you're going to add something unique and special
"lani guinier" Discussed on Consider This from NPR
"For the news. Happening here in the dc metro region from the. Wam you newsroom. That's right after the top story from npr. On consider this last month at the beginning of a public school board meeting in chandler arizona. So this takes us tour. Citizens comment portion that the meeting in a numbered president bar. Boston's open the floor. This way critical race theory has not been on our agenda and is not on our agenda this evening there have been a number of erroneous reports that chandler unified. School district is using critical race theory agenda item or not. That's immediately where the conversation went. Just because you guys changed the name to equity does not mean. It's not the same thing as a critical race theory you can call it boys theory deep equity social emotional learning. It's all the same. They're just sitting. You're teaching them to be divided. Why kids don't see color race. This is a racist vile and evil ideology. That is infected this once. Great school district. Crt all that's doing is creating racism. It's a similar scene at wash. Oh county school district in reno nevada. I say this for last because you'll probably kick me out. You guys are all a bunch of cowards and liars in fort worth texas. We will not tolerate the schools to indoctrinate our children. This agenda will stop right now and at a school board meeting last month in loudon county virginia. Some parents were tackled by police and had to be escorted out of the room. What started in some republican controlled state legislatures earlier. This year has spread a push to stop public. School teachers from what activists call critical race theory. Whether or not they can define what it is. If you ask fifty different people. And i have that are concerned about it. They will give you fifty different answers as to what it is this is. Utah's republican governor. Spencer cox speaking with reporters in may just after utah lawmakers esther resolution against teaching critical race theory in public schools. It's also hard for people to point to any evidence of of where it's being taught in in our school. Most of these folks typically haven't really read anything on critical race theory. Gloria labs and billings is the president of the national academy of education and professor america. At the university of wisconsin madison so critical race theory is a series of theoretical propositions that suggests that race and racism. Line normal not tablet in american light. It was developed at harvard law school in the nineteen seventies and eighties as a legal framework and posits that racism is not just a product of individual bias but is embedded in legal systems and policies. I use it in graduate work because graduate students are often looking for. Theoretical frameworks to do their own research. Consider this critical race. Theory went from a legal framework to conservative media. Talking point why the debate is likely to reach your local school board soon from npr. I'm audie cornish. It's tuesday july sixth support for this podcast and the following message. Come from track phone. Wireless giving you control over your wireless plan. There's no contract and unlimited talk and text smartphone. Plans start at just twenty dollars a month. All on america's largest and most dependable networks learn more at track phone dot com. This message comes from. Npr sponsor keep grow your business with sales and marketing automation for serious entrepreneurs. Keep has everything you need to organize client info. Follow up fast and automate sales. Learn more at k. e. ap dot com slash npr three years ago. A man with a grudge murdered five people at the capital gazette newspaper in maryland. And now finally his trial has started. What we wanted to know was how did the staff who survived the shooting. Keep going find out in our capital gazette series from npr's embedded podcast. It's considered this from npr now. This isn't the first time political activists on the right if tried to weaponize critical race theory back in nineteen ninety-three former president. Bill clinton nominated harvard law. Professor lani guinier to head the justice department civil rights division. There was pushback newspaper editorials in conservatives to say that you know she's traffickings radical theory known as critical race theory that's atlantic writer. adam harris. he's been reporting on the recent rise of critical race theory terminology. He'll be walking us through a bit of the time line here. So when air was accused of trafficking in what critics called a radical theory and the credits they won claiming veneers writings lent themselves views that he could not embrace. The president cut her loose rather than fight a divisive battle on capitol hill. I'm nation revoked. Ultimately even president clinton sort of disavows. Hurry doesn't he doesn't stand by her now. Onto twenty twelve. Former president barack obama's running for a second term and a video resurfaces and president obama at harvard law. The how did this one man do. All this. obama is a student and and he's introducing a speaker. Derek bell the harvard professor known for helping create critical race theory. He hasn't done it simply by his good looks and easy charm. Obama gives bell hug with that video controversy ensued. What this really shows is that the president is actually kind of aligning himself here with a with a well-known campus radical. You know in the hug thing fizzled pretty quickly. And of course. Obama won reelection. But we're living through the most recent iteration of critical race theory. Panic is actually interesting. How much this traces back to one person that one person harris says is christopher rufo a senior fellow at manhattan institute a conservative think tank. He received a tip from a municipal employees in seattle. That effectively said know the city is doing. These workforce trainings that his teaching white people to hate themselves. Now this was last summer and remember following the death of george floyd and widespread protests a lot of corporations and government entities. Started doing diversity and inclusion trainings in earnest. We've covered that bit on this podcast. Well rufo thought that these city led trainings in seattle and gone too far so we started writing about it and he attached to term to it. He calls it critical race theory. He's invited on across program at the beginning of september. So totally vast. Chris roofer to walk us through. Some of what is happening here. You should know the details. And he goes on program and he's actually saying join at critical race. Theory become the domineering philosophy of the bureaucratic infrastructure. It's absolutely astonishing. How critical race theory has pervaded every institution in the federal government. At the end of the segment is calling on president trump to ban critical race theory in federal work. Trainings and i call on the president to immediately issue this executive order and stamp out this destructive divisive pseudoscientific ideology at its root and a couple of weeks later. The president does exactly what rufo asked him to do and signs a executive order that would ban the version of critical race theory that he outworked on tucker across that executive order even made it into last september's presidential debate. Here's moderator chris wallace this month. Your administration directed federal agencies to end racial sensitivity training that addresses white privilege or critical race theory. I ended it because it's racist. I ended it because a lot of people were complaining that they were asked to do things that were.
Critical Race Theory: What Is It?
"Is critical Race theory? Yes. So critical Race theory began around the 19 seventies with the law professor Derrick Bell and a couple of other legal scholars trying to understand the ways. That race and American law intersected how history of slavery and segregation was sort of codified and continue to influence American law Today. Adam Harris is a staff writer at the Atlantic. His most recent article was titled The GOP S Critical Race Theory Obsession, Harris says. One of the first instances we started to see critical race theory being used as a political bludgeon was in the early 19 nineties, President Bill Clinton nominated Atlantic near to the Justice Department. She was a legal scholar who done a lot of work and voting rights and conservatives effectively used her previous work in voting rights to sort of tag her as someone who was arguing for racial quotas in voting for the amount of seats that people should hold on city councils. They also tagged her as championing a radical school of thought. Called Critical Race Theory. Amid mounting pressure from conservatives, President Clinton has withdrawn his nomination of Lani Guinier to head up the Justice Department's civil rights division, claiming veneers writings lent themselves to views that he could not embrace the president cut her loose rather than fight a divisive battle on Capitol Hill. From there you have A kind of dormant period. It's not really until after George Zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of Trayvon Martin, the Jesse Jackson like race profiteer race grievance industry says everything's about race. America's a racist nation. You see a mention of critical race theory after a video surfaces of President Barack Obama hugging Derek Bell in 1990, you know When he was a law student at Harvard Law. The president is actually kind of aligning himself here with a well known campus radical. There is a conservative back last thing that he believes in this radical critical race theory. And then they're a kind of a couple of mentions up until 2020 shortly after George Floyd is murdered, You start to see a
"lani guinier" Discussed on PodcastDetroit.com
"It incentivizes people to cooperate with one another in a way that they would not be incentivized without a an organized. Josh. I'm kind of Jennifer this. This is a I look at this. This looks looks like a simple question, but I think it's way more complicated when you start packaging, it has it probably ever my bio I am a conservative I agree with Thomas Jefferson proposition that we've instituted government here in the United States to secure certain rights. That being said, I'm also sort of a Berkey and conservative and we don't begin with abstract principles. Right? We don't start with. Well, here's these higher philosophical principles. We're GONNA. Try to pull them down from the heavens and that's why we're defining government this way. Rather, governments kind of messy business. Sometimes, it evolves slowly out of a nation or a people's history shared forms and traditions but it's something that we see in every every nation every society I mean, the only alternative being anarchy doesn't. It appears most people prefer even despots anarchy. So it's it's something that seems to be necessary for the human condition to prevent us from. just devolve into injustice an attacking each other. And this might sound like a oversimplification but I'm I'm listening to a book right now called. Compassionate conviction it I'll just say. From the RIP, it is a book written by by religious people. I do actually like their podcast. It's called the church in politics podcast, and hopefully throughout the series, we'll have some of their hosts on as well. Just, got their book set guys. By the way we got free books. Yeah. Best parts of this job So we got their books and we'll have them in as well. But one of the things that stuck out to me in the reading of the PDF copy that I have right now is one of the things that they really believe as this The Civil Action Groups called the an campaign it's out of Atlanta but they believe the role of government. They get more granular than this but the rule of government is to. Provide and Provide and defend social justice. and to en- enact moral order and so that was just kind of something I had not thought of I'm still kind of wrestling with it because they're coming from a decidedly. Religious viewpoint that not everybody shares but I don't know that a lot of people would also say, I don't think that the government shouldn't be involved in social justice issues or providing for the common. Good. So. On my mind but. Steve Kent any follow up questions or just WanNa just the. Now. Let's give. Kemp. So question to what how do you understand the American election process be and you can attack this from either a local state or federal viewpoint. Josh will have you go I. I struggled with this question also against seem simple on the on the surface I think. I understand the American election process is something that has both evolved over time while we I think we've still tried to keep true to our character in the United States. It probably news anyone but that we have become increasingly democratic as we've evolved in our history starring with, you pretty much had to be a white. Landowning, Mel to participate in the election process to begin with which was fairly restricted to you could only at a federal level anyways vote for a house of representative. Member in your local district things like senators were selected by your state. Your president was elected by the shadowy group of the Electoral College still is, but it was a much less direct process than what it is today. So I understand American again, election processes something that's evolved over time is something a little bit more? Shall we say Republicans small are to a little bit more Democratic Small D. I largely supportive of Vattel though I think you can go a little too far here in my home state of Oklahoma. We are extremely populous about a hundred years ago in the state became a state. former president Theodore Roosevelt famously almost didn't sign or constitution because he said it was it was so long and discombobulated couldn't hardly make. It was the longest constitution in the world at that time. We were very as a people very distrusting of elites and those in authority, and we WANNA push all power down to the people. But in effect with it ends up doing sometimes it just creating a massive confusion you can tell that you're very distrusting of elites by the way your governor has covered. Yes. Sorry about it? No, he's sorry about it. That was interesting. Tell that happened by the way but did you have more to say I'm sorry can throw some quips in there sometimes but. No. No Ola the to that. How about say? Yeah. You know there's a phrase in Latin that's often associated with democracy and that's vox. Papa. Only the voice of the people. And and I like what Josh said that we have become more democratic. In. A Way I think at the same time we'd become less liberal as a as a democracy. And what August was saying regarding upholding capitalism. I mean it seems to me that this whole issue of. providing. Your vote is a form of speech and there. There's a certain. There's a certain conceit than that if it's one person one vote. That the speech should be equal but we know now with the amount of money that's going into elections and would special interest groups and the ability for people to provide dark money and soft money and that it is completely ruptured are very understanding of democracy is as a result of it, and so you can say that it's one person one vote but I mean the amount of the amount of density on the scale of one interest to another makes the election process and I'm sorry, I, sound cynical on Sunday evening I'll be more cynical tomorrow I promise. But I. It makes me wonder then and as a person who grew up in England and who was acclimated to a completely different electoral process with a with a parliamentary system, and then moving here and becoming weaned off schoolhouse rock. trying to. Get my arms around the election process right now, it becomes difficult to use the word democracy in in the same sentence with the election process. and not be jaded by. Let me let me ask follow because you said, Hey, you know we're sensibly one person one vote. But you're somewhat cynical I mean Carolina's in wrote. A book recently about disenfranchisement, which will towards we'll get to at the end of of this episode but. She talked about one person. No vote. So are you in a way? That me understand. Are you saying that? Yes, we have one person one vote ostensibly but really that's not. Really, the case because of all these extenuating circumstances, that's right. I remember back about twenty five years or so there was A. Law Professor Out of the University of Pennsylvania who was being considered. As a nominee to the US Supreme Court, by then President Clinton and this was Lani Guinier. An African American law professor and one of the. so-called stumbling blocks are one of the issues that was held against. Her was a law review article in which she was doing, what academics usually do, and that's fine and. A push the envelope and she was talking about that in order to better and franchise minority communities may be blocked. Voting is something to consider and she was assailed by the political rights for a how dare you move away from the true sense of democracy one person one vote and I wonder twenty five years later, and especially after the citizens united case that isn't all of this money that is going from some individuals compared to others isn't that a form of block voting that? I can go ahead and put all of this money behind my vote as opposed to you who can barely go ahead and pay five bucks because of your income into the into the electoral process. So again, apologies for the cynicism Sunday evening but these are some of the ways that I think it's important for us to tweet through The rhetoric that America still holds to itself into the rest of the world when it talks about upholding democratic values. Jennifer. So you know generally we know about the electoral college and everything that's that's not going to be too interesting to talk about I would actually characterize the electoral process, the election process in Your as being a battleground I. You know that stretches back to. The southern strategy. Where you've got one group of. People are. People who are. Who View the disenfranchisement of? On the margins as being desirable and then you've got..
"lani guinier" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Jacob and I like on base Russia before Jacob all right man thanks for taking my call my question for you is that in the case of George boy that's while tragic is it administers systemic racism in the police department and are the police themselves that were responsible for is that should be considered racist or was it just a tragic accident so I mean I see no evidence that that this is a race is going to win so waiting for baby to test but I'm frankly astonished media have decided to center in on the killing of George Floyd as opposed to centering on the coming about monetary right we now have evidence in that case from witness testimony that these white guys who basically pulled up their trucks in front of a black guy who they supposedly dot had committed a criminal act and then they got into ended they they had arms they they had their guns out and then he tried to get by them and attacked one of them and and and one of Saddam that one of the servers body into the N. word and it seems to me like if you're gonna make the argument that America's intimately races that is a much better case from that particular case then the case of George Boyd where we have no evidence that this wasn't just a case of police brutality or police misconduct are really really severe level me as far as the idea that that their shop and wanted to kill George lady and I don't even know if that's the case this is why I'm really wondering just from a legal point of view how the prosecution is going to seek to prove that you're a challenge committed murder as opposed to manslaughter that wasn't just taking an action that he should have taken that resulted in death accidentally ada it didn't look from the video like you care very much for having drugs when that's not quite the same thing it's a reckless endangerment third degree murder I it is certainly not first degree I intend on killing this person murder and that's you know that that's a that's a difficult sort of burden to to push but I think the media have come full scale into everything that is bad it happens you know white person a black person can be automatically attributed to racism and that I think is a really really bad thing because it requires no proof and if you say well hold up this looks like a case of police brutality but it doesn't look like it was racism to me yet and they say well that's because you're not woke enough is because you don't understand your my privilege thing not not just give me some evidence and then I'm I'm happy to follow the evidence we have provided any evidence whatsoever yeah as I said before the media made a two fold jump here jumped over one is they went from this is a case of police brutality to this is a racist case of police brutality and they jump from this is a racist case of police brutality to the entire police department and the entire American system I a racist and those are two enormous jumps that are unsupported by the evidence yeah I agree thank you very I appreciate the call is about on in Wichita Kansas on bench press of of what is now hi I'm planning on going to law school so what is the best advice you have for me in general and then also what is the best advice you have for dealing with leftist professors and students so yes this is a question I get a lot Isabella and what I often say is that you got to be a little bit practical so the tempting thing to do is to go out there and just state the truth in all circumstances the question is why are you in law school are you there to to convince students and professors of your rightness are you there to be to be downgraded for your political point of view so I I always urge a certain amount of Machiavellian practicality here as a man hiding your viewpoint but it does mean being discreet in how you express your view points what I mean by that is that very often as in college you take an example but I was in college I had some professors who I thought my grade me down on my test I also knew that they had a great blue books that these blue bugs you wrote your student ID number on a no idea who actually wrote the answers and so I would speak out frequently in class and then it right exactly what I do the professors wanted to hear on the test I get the act and if you can do that great when I was in law school by contrast at Harvard they were very open I had a lot of professors who who were actually excited to have somebody with a different point of view something that I know has fallen out of fashion these days actually have law school recommendation letters written by Lani Guinier who is a a left wing a black professor Lani wit was still left wing teachers after rejected as undersecretary of labor in the Clinton administration because she was so far to the left but she really appreciated the fact that there is somebody in her class who disagreed with her I really I really like professor when you're so I was able to speak out and that was great yeah do you really have to gauge under what circumstances you are speaking and then just be careful because the fact is there are some nasty people out there who will downgrade free downgrade you or or go after you for your views I in ways they're not just purely them arguing with you but actually have ramifications for the future thank you so much such great advice you back hang in there it's it's it's not the easiest path for sure Nickens venting on bench pressure before Nick Sir I have a question being a white conservative I'm all all braces when the fact is I would vote for any black conservative before of what any white level that being said the fact that there's this quote on quote systematic racism when roughly ninety five percent of why people voted in two thousand eight and twelve Obama.
"lani guinier" Discussed on News-Talk 1400 The Patriot
"And calibrated while many others on the left were upset with Biden slip some say he simply said what other Democrats have been saying for some time here Salem host Larry elder would Biden said is standard one oh one democratic dogma if you don't feel a certain way if you don't believe that race and racism are responsible for everything if you don't feel that blacks are still being abused by institutional systemic structural racism and you are a seller if you are an uncle Tom district Democrat what I want do you have a problem figuring out what you're for mayor trump and you a black military reed said I don't know how anyone standing heritage could be a Republican okay so I need to say more and that is why you're finding all of these Democrats defending what Joe Biden so wonderful to say he shouldn't say that if you don't feel a certain kind of way you're not black we've been saying it for years you know I'm already okay because this is a distraction my friend invited spoke to his comments on the back the club he apologized he clarified he said he should have been so cavalier we need to want to talk about they should have been so cavalier all he is doing is saying the same crap did you guys say all the time what a Lani Guinier bill Clinton's first choice for civil rights division of the DOJ she talked about blacks being authentic and inauthentic and referred to from the mistaken Clarence Thomas is being in an authentic black Thomas soul in authentic black you've been saying it for decades all Barton did is poor but he always hears you guys sorry one of Biden's top aid to the woman name Simone Sanders she was a top aide to Bernie Sanders four years earlier and she's always playing the race card always talking about how blacks are being aggrieved by institutional systemic structural racism you don't think she said to Bernie the Joe Biden privately you know anybody black who hasn't decided whether you want your truck here it really black you don't think but I never heard that over and over and over again until he gets loose says the same thing it gets hammered vice president should have said it we apologize for it but I really think the goal and the president Chirac I believe that Joe Biden was incorrect and and say and the statement you a black oh for crying out loud this Donna Brazile Donna Brazile is the one who said when she was a campaign chair of Al Gore the Republican Party has a white boy attitude here she is lecturing Joe Biden for saying the same thing has I. Jana press we apologize for what she said because Hey what if all of you to manage your projects no did Nancy Pelosi says she reports no the Chuck Schumer's she's apologized no in the running for office for whatever reason identity that she represents if.