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Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin

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38:35 min | 3 months ago

Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin

"Hey y'all welcome to the Marty Smith's America podcast. This is volume ninety eight. We're GONNA SHOUT OUT Lee Roy. Yarborough not a whole lot of ninety. Eight's out there to choose from not a huge not huge array of hall of fame level. Ninety eight so we're going to go with Leroy Yarborough jat out. Nascar have an awesome show today very special guests lane Kiffin head coach of the Ole Miss Rebels and this is lane lane very often. I asked some very different types of questions. This time that we're personal and the answers were very very revealing and I really enjoyed this twenty or twenty five minutes with Lane. You will too. Of course he has a unique challenge as he heads to Oxford and the SEC. West to try to rebuild a program He does have a really talented quarterback at his disposal in rising sophomore. John Rice plumbly bouquet and ruin and lane has a penchant for creating very prolific offenses with mobile quarterbacks. Just like plumbing. I really look forward to hearing y'all's feedback. I want you to make sure that you let us know what you think. There's GonNa be some answers in this thing that you hear that make you go. Both did that. We're grateful for lanes time before we get to talk conversation with Lane Kiffin. I want to remind you guys not sure I have to but I'm going to do it anyway. To tune in on Sunday evening at nine PM Eastern time it is the next installment of the last dance the amazing behind the scenes look at the Chicago Bulls Dynasty again. The series continues on Sunday at nine PM. The first two rounds were unbelievable. I could have watched all ten in a row if ESPN would decided to roll tape on all ten straight. Last Sunday night I would have gladly been up until dome and after you watch those next installments of the last dance. Make sure to tune into the wrap-up podcast hosted by Jalen and Jacoby immediately following the broadcast that's presented by state farm. When you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm is their coverage is also brought to you by. At and T. This is available wherever you enjoy your podcasts along with Marty Smith's America and on that note let's get to volume ninety eight Leroy Yarborough edition of Marty. Smith's America with OLE MISS HEAD FOOTBALL COACH. Lane kiffin buckle up. You're going to learn about this guy. A It is a great pleasure to welcome lane kiffin to Marty. Smith's America podcast. Of course now. The head football coach of the Ole Miss Rebels. And we're going to start in a little bit different facet based on social media. You seem be in this kind of mode of maybe seeking more spiritual experience or understanding of yourself with age you post photos of these cool little brown cards with nuggets of information at quotes or maybe scripture printed on them. I really enjoy that actually. How do those quotes and Inspirational Nuggets? Impact You well Marty. I would like to take credit for that first. Off But I'm not finding those myself. It's actually inky Johnson who Most you know the motivational speaker. That played at Tennessee and Krier was in early and really close with Eric Berry. He was actually G TENNESSEE IN ONE YEAR. There and so Stayed in contact with him. Over the years coming spoke to F- US already spoke to old miss and You know he sends me those every morning And I asked him. Could I share those you know? And he said Yeah you know you've got this huge twitter platform you know whatever half a million followers whatever it is that That would be awesome for us to get that message out and so you know he sends me those in the morning and I kind of pick from him sometimes and you'll see they have something to do with. Maybe Ole Miss Football or just in general and Sent him out ERTA Oakley health equal. They're amazing and that man is amazing for those of you. Listen who may not know inky story go find at inky Johnson. He's an extremely person former player himself. And it's an it's an amazing inspirational story a lane. What's the quote that you carry with you? What's the most important or impactful quoting your life? I I don't know that I've thought about it. That way Mardi I don't know it's really a quote but you know what seems to come up and you know just like what happened eight as you know. I'm just always thinking that obstacles to the way you know Ryan Holiday Rights Book Obstacle. It away Spoke at Alabama and Really it's just at the end of the day. You know horrible things can happen that you think at the time and they may be great things you know. It's how do you? What do you make out of them? And so you know just like in key. We'll tell you how one of his best days of his life is that injury. Nobody would think that you know his career is over. He's potentially I shall graphic and he says that what seemed to be so bad end up being so great because got into motivational speaking helping way more people than going to play in the NFL on so abused animal life whether it's you know the firing at USC which dot at the end of the world when those things happen or tied the time when those things happen it's like the end of the world. You know like your own call. My Gosh life's over and You know I look back and say had that never happened. I never go to Alabama. I never get the three years learning from you. Know the greatest ever and Nick Sabin and and you know growing that way and then learning new all countries and all those things from going to different places and meeting all the different people you know so What can really you know in life? All these things happen everyone. You think so. Values you'd never know ended up being one of the greatest things to happen to you. Why Nick Sabin the greatest ever because he was doing that Marty when in time. That's no disrespect to legendary bear Bryant on but it was in my dad. You know differ back. Then you know like my dad went in BRASSICA. And he's got like seventy people in his freshman class you know. You had unlimited scholarships these things and me play for Bob Van Ian Again no disrespect people in that Arab but it was easier. You know you're doing. He's doing it in their. You know. Twenty five scholarships. You know you're eighty five cap and you know. Read that early back then you know. He's losing his best players every year and so to do it this last ten years When it is harder than ever by far to do it. That's why think he's the greatest of all time because now you know it's hard you see hardly anybody. He can't stay at the top because it's set up for you not to because of the cap now in your best players leaving early and then used to be like that. I think about it nick. Sabin could sign sixty seventy players year. I mean then. What would it look like you know? Wouldn't be fair at all would be. Nothing's already already. It already is in a lot of times. Imagine if we had three hundred players. Who's the smartest football mind you've ever? No that's a good one. I've been around and great ones Probably naturally smart would be Pete Carroll You know he didn't have to really go learn as much from other people and things or you know. They wouldn't take him hours to watch film to figure something out of it was just. You could figure things out so fast and see the game so well during the game. Both sides of the ball. You know he'd say things during the game. He seemed down there from the field. You know journey of you you know. There's only a few people in the world that can sue the game like that and I think he also I've never met coach Carroll but he also from afar seems to be one of those guys Kinda like Daboh in the way that he is completely unafraid to let go that unbridled emotion. He's willing to live the joy of the game. How accurate is that? That's a great comparison. You know Dabbagh just younger version of it. had fun you know. He'd always say like you gotTa do this. You know you've got one time to do. It has started doing it. Embrace it enjoy it. You know everyone else. You know almost everyone else in this profession they just you know. It looks like they're not really enjoying at times jail and you know so. I took from him and you know I think that as an assistant you know have told Star keesing this before me kind of grease you know we were in that run of thirty four straight and three heisman winners and whenever four years almost three national championships and we were young and I don't think we're really enjoyable is going on and realized how unique it was you know and he always said guys enjoy this. You know this is. You know this didn't happen. I kinda as I've been a different places Alabama. Fau and you know we were doing things and never been done before you and you know. Eleven wins to three seasons. Try to teach kids at to enjoy what you're going through because it's short and it's unique. You seem to have a lot of joy when you are in a Boca Raton. One thing I feel like a lot of dudes battle and I know this is a constant paddle for me and I have to remind myself all the time. Your job is not your identity. Don't let what you do be who you are at Fau. It seemed like you were able to really live freely. What's the challenge of your title? Not Being your identity. Well I had our FCA. Pastor USC UC kept telling me you know you don't be defined by your job you know you're GONNA get in trouble someday if your job to find who you are and that's all that you think that's one thing that you think about. You're going to be in trouble when you lose where you can fire and I was doing that. You know And it really wasn't right way to live and so kind of going through all that stuff you got to have to you and said okay. You know it's more about helping these kids you know and really going through these experience with us in the system coaches and all these things You and helping them go through life versus just okay. How many wins? What what are they saying? No you know what's winning percentage and you know you know what's the view of me as a head coach and I see that now and you see people that really struggle you know when they lose games or you know things are going that we're all of a sudden they're totally different people you know it's because they're being defined leading the results of the job to find who they are as human and not you know what they're you know the legacy leaving the people that are around you know what are they doing for. Phnom. What led you to forego your last season of eligibility as a player to become a coach at Fresno Guide Him David Car that ends up being the first pick of drought or the draft. Our starting quarterback was billy folic with played. I think twelve years in the NFL And I was behind him. I was number two and then all of a sudden here comes this guy in the summer. You know those guys going to be a true freshman and he starts throwing the ball around. I'm like this is GonNa pass me up at the end of the by the end of Seven on seven of the first day actually when it was my idea went into Jeff kept their offense coordinator at coach now is Al- always in office anyway. There's actually rules. You know you can only be involved so long as a player you know twenty hours a week so if you become a student assistant you know even though you haven't graduated yet you know that you actually you're unlimited rules and so I basically became a coach and sat in the press box next to Tedford on every Game Day. Charter the defense's stay there till midnight with them you know and And there's another obstacles away you know. Most of all gave your last year plan for that head. Start that I got you know. I got all these buddies of chased. You know playing in the pros went and played you know and you know the World League back then or you know went to training camp kept trying to chase it working out and then they get five years later. They want to start coaching. And I've already got that point the extra year six years in already you know assistant coach at USC and they're trying to get a at first Jay job somewhere. What kind of quarterback where you put on your Uncle Rico for me for a minute. What was the play these lane kiffin play as a collegiate quarterback? Well here's a story for you. Maybe little known so we're blowing someone out in tents for won't remember this. I think I told us I'm on the headset. Because I'm signaling the place you know as backup quarterback and receiver coach has. Hey you know. Let's let's put sophomore or something instead. Let's put him. The third quarterback goes. Let's put into the game in acting here and headset. He forgets I might. I won't say exactly. See the hell no ain't putting him in. Have you forgot that was on us? Thanks coach. I'm on here I must. I must not been very good. I thought it was good. It wasn't speaking of being very very good. You coached a couple of total studs in Alabama that are about to enter this two thousand twenty. Nfl draft in to talk about Loa and Jalen hurts. Let's start with two. Let's break down the special abilities that these two guys have to. I was separates them from other quarterbacks lane. Probably accuracy you know especially down the field You know when I To Hawaii to watch him after watching him on film and stuff and Watching go through a workout. You know came back in my report that said you know guys like jugs machine like he doesn't Miss Anything especially down the field so he turned with it. You know forty five yards down the field and strike. Basically the last play the national championship. You know downing's wants to be thrown over there in that coverage he's looking over here right just looks left at one second. Chuck Right in stride. I mean that's him So I think the downfield accuracy really. I came back and you know I would try to compare players two players to paint the coaches a picture. You know like so coach savings and see okay. This is who it is. I said this is Steve. Young you know smooth left-hander accurate really can move around really well around the pocket and you know by extra time And that's really like a pair of them to similar size. Jalen hurts just has a heart of a lion. Why will he succeed in the NFL? Jones extremely competitive you know streaming hard to bring night basically. He's a running back body. I'm not you know he's a quarterback so don't take that the wrong way. How many corrects truly have a running back middle linebacker type of body you know. And that's a squats in his legs and all that you know it's really Powerful runs through tackles. And so I think people you gotta use them right. You know concede to make all the throws he can do all that but you know it would to me. It would be a waste to not use his ability to move around. You know no different than you know if you didn't use the Mark Jackson on some run plays and stuff. I wouldn't be a very good idea so you don't want you too much in that league but you know he can do a lot of things if you're a GM at the top of that draft and you have the opportunity in two is still on the board. If you're like say Miami and higher I think those first four guys are pretty well solidified. But if you're if you're Miami and hire five and you're the GM do you pass onto a tongue of Iowa I'm the GM 'cause you always gotTa answer dear owner? You know 'cause he's say well what about this. What about that? I would say to him? Hey you know what if to still not in still isn't playing Birch's Mississippi state you know we might be getting the first pick of the draft with the six pick. Whatever taking right now you know because of that game playing him getting hurt that game he doesn't they're GonNa win the Iron Bowl using their own side in the slot for they're gonNA play. Lsu might win a national championship. So that's the guy we're getting you know that this slot which had that not happily never be touching this guy back to Jalen for just a second. You have this amazing penchant for taking those guys who can run the ball very well and creating these prolific offenses with them. And you have one. That's pretty special with his legs. There at old miss and John Ras plumlee. What do you see as his potential? And how excited are you to get to work with a young man with that talent? Unfortunately we have been able to do anything with them. You know because you know spring ball now we would have only got him so much as you is in baseball. Vote really got him some so I can go off his film last year. Obviously extremely talented. I mean runs faster than it looks as this guy's run away from Lsu you know that's not so I remember US thirteen about all I know is I was sitting there. Making adjustments during the game with receivers and on the sidelines and they kept looking at the jumbotron was like what are you guys doing like coach? This white what to run and we WANNA watch this guy speak in a no spring ball. It's been such an unorthodox time for all of us with with the Kobe pandemic and whatnot. And it's not only limited but in a lot of ways. Eliminated your ability to to have time with your guys. What's the challenge of building relationships with your players? When you're not able to be with your players well I mean obviously you got some big challenge especially for first year coaches that Barry now though players have no onfield experience with them so You know we've got a lot of different zoom setups whether it's people speaking on Zoom Like inky did one So the John Gordon later this week. So you know that stuff but then we have little small teas that we interact with. You know with ten players each and things like that that we're all in charge of so just our best or those of us who don't do it describe recruiting it seems like the most relentless ceaseless impossible mission that there could possibly be described recruiting especially the FCC you know it's a whole nother animal. And so I remember coming to the SEC and you know studying it and how people that want in the balance of staffs and everything and you know coming from USC you know. I always thought we kinda you know or maybe half and half with the staff you know half the guys you know really good X. knows new ideas half the guys recruiters and then both did both all. They're both but you know your breakdown and then I got the SEC. And you've got to be out. I'm so far recruiting or you don't have any chance you know. I don't care what plays you draw up the Eunice. You see you know got players. Ain't GonNa work you know you've got to mismatch is not like the other conferences. You know the defenses are too good so you've got to have great players so you know now the bounces much more you know. If there's ten coaches maybe seven seven recruiters in three scheme guys. You know so you got to have those guys that on the phone every day every night you know. It's not used to being you know one call a week. You know you know it was was enough in. Nowadays kids need attention and because of social you know it is three hundred sixty five days for these guys. What's the what's the one player that you had to work the hardest to land and once you got him? It was a generational type of difference for a program Reggie Bush who's was going to go to Notre Dame and out of San Diego and we had just kind of started winning there at USC and He comes to the game. Unbelievable PLAYING NOTRE DAME. And they call them. I believe in you know we kind of blown out and They'll keep working return. Reggie Reggie comes to you. Have SEEN SO NOTRE DAME KNOWLEDGE? Look back at that. It's like all right. If you're going to have a great run like those thirty four straight wins. You have to have a unique player to me. Most all those teams measure just so dominant defense. It doesn't matter but most of the time there's a great runners unique player that saves you. You know one or two times a year when you're not playing really good like Oregon State Og and not playing really good registering just catch on and go run. Everybody you know and save you and I would say what if Reggie goes to noting what happened to the. Us's Notre Dame balance at Reggie comes there continues USC dominance over another name under Pete Carroll where if I would call. I don't think he ever lost them. After that you know the first year we lost but never lost to them and What would it look like you know so once again? How important premiums but also how important winning news is it that game is out of Carson Palmer laid it up you know. I think we're GONNA win the HEISMAN. If I recall the year is Reggie Bush abyss. College player you've ever seen he's up there Probably is I mean. You know people will say didn't play in St play the impact in at the time so that may be the only argument. 'cause defense is no difference but you know the change a game. I mean we have a game. He had five hundred thirty eight yards or something like that. In a close game you know burst. Fresno state in the Coliseum. Five five thirty or something one player. Who DOES THAT REGGIE? Bush does do free. Just a freak. He he he really was so twitchy couple more. And I'll get you out of here. I know you gotta a lot to do. What do you and Mike Leach bring to an already stacked? Sec in terms of the the quality of coaches and the personalities of the coaches and the resumes of the coaches to the SEC and to the egg bowl rivalry more twitter followers. That's for sure. I guarantee you'll probably have more twitter followers and everyone else combine I mean he. He just wins. You know wherever Benny wins and he likes it up. You know with whatever quarterback it is next one gets hurt. That's when it comes in and you've just done unbelievable job you know it hasn't been at marketplace's top twenty programs doing it so He's He's a great coaching and a great mind constantly so It probably brings a lot of attention to the rivalry to. How often do you worry? I wouldn't classify south is a warrior so I mean you always have concerns about things and you know your children all those things but I wouldn't say I'm really a warrior with this krona thing. Every wants to talk every day about. What are we coming? Back when they come back and kindness. What's out of our control you know? We don't control the deadline. They don't control corona controls the deadline. So worry about what you can control. I like that. That's very true. And so the last thing. I'm reading this book right now. About legends in Golf and specifically at the master's called men in Green about primer. Nicholas in those guys. And there's this question in there that has captivated me made me consider my own life and I'm going to ask it of you. When were you happiest square? Sound crazy probably Tennessee. You know Were so much excitement there. You know you're so young you know and I think when you're young Dukla not worrying when you're young really. Don't you know you're just living in the moment and excited to be head coach? Essiet whatever thirty three or something like that and Had A great staff at always Ron. You Know My dad Eddie. Grand Frank Wilson. All these all these guys and Which is really cool time. And you know they'd been down a little bit you know for a few years there and so everyone was just excited. That's great players like Eric Berry and it was just a really cool year and signed a top ten recruiting class number one player in the country and Bryce Brown. And so I look back. You say you know what you know. Kids were super little knocks. Reges born It was pretty cool. I would have. I don't know what I knew what I thought your answer was going. GonNa be but that one got me. I don't know that I I don't know that I I would have thought that co- you answered it so I appreciate your community to Mind I. I can't wait to see you again and kick. Footballs off and and gathered together and spend that time because I have been recalibrated in reminded of just how special it is to be together on. Fall Saturdays in the south. So I can't wait to see your brother. Thank you for your time and stay safe all right man. Youtube appreciate your time. Thanks a never would have dreamed outlook man lanes time at Tennessee was brief lanes. Time at Tennessee was very polarizing lanes. Time at Tennessee was controversial for lane to say that the happiest he's ever been was at the University of Tennessee. I'll be honest. I'm a little surprised but I can totally see why he feels that way and he what he said as his reasoning was telling to me he was a young man thirty three years old. He has very young children. And there's a very sweet emotion that comes with that time of life as your children age and their aging right there with you your aging at the same time and so them in that moment is the them that you know in that moment and sometimes you forget how sweet those those small little people were and the way that they spoke in the things that they said and what they thought was interesting and cool and how they dressed and their little teeth in the holes in their face when they lost those teeth. All of those things are such sweet emotions and so I again. I find it interesting that that was his answer but I can totally see why he felt that way. I really appreciate that guy. I've had some tremendous conversations with him over the years and I always learn. I loved it that he said that the best football coach in the history of College. Football is his former boss. Nick Saban I agree with him and I agree with why this tenure this era of college football is the most competitive there's more parody than there's ever been despite the fact that it seems like the same four or five six programs always ended up in the College Football playoff there is a ton of parody. You can find great players in almost every program across the country and so for. Sabin to have this sustained excellence. I agree one hundred percent with lanes assessment. The greatest football mind being Pete Carroll was interesting to me and also enjoyed the learning Mayan clinician that that unbridled passion and enthusiasm and joy that you see in Pete Carroll when he's coaching the game which reminds me of Davo Lane said that he felt like that was a good comparison so that's one thing about. Davos admire more than anything else. He said it to me after Kelly Bryant lift his program. I went down to Clemson and I had a chat with Dabo about Kelly leaving the program and he said to me. No one steals my joy. Do not let anyone steal your joy and I found that to be so telling I carry that with me every day. I just told my daughter that the other night your joys your decision your joys a self produced emotion and so often in this life we let so many extraneous. External variables impact our joy. And so I find it beautiful that those individuals who are centered in a unique way. That don't aren't beholden to all those outside voices like Tam T. Bo like Davos Weenie. That really inspires me. I wish I was more like that and sometimes I am. Sometimes I am so thanks so much to lane. I really enjoyed that conversation. I hope you guys did. Please send US feedback. We want some feedback. We haven't gotten feedback from you guys recently and I will say this to you. Those of you who have offered that feedback to me whether that's private messages on instagram. Whether that's responses on twitter I get more get more feedback about Marty. Smith's America in private messages on instagram than anywhere in. So thank you for those of you who send it means so much to us and it means so much to me that the conversations that we have hit you guys the way they do. Let us know Marty Smith. Espn on both instagram. And twitter subscribe rate in review on all of your podcast platforms and let us know what you think. Travis has always looking at that feedback. So y'all may be wondering why you're not you haven't heard from travis the reason you haven't heard from Travis he's because his Internet is basically the first Internet ever created. I think that he I think Travis has to plug his phone into the wall and dial up to AOL. I can you hear me now. I'm I did actually plug my computer and to the Internet. I can hear me now. Yes you sound very good now. That's a great thing travis. Got a gift this week. That bears discussion so I was at home and I get texts from my dear friends Jack Daniels and that's not unorthodox. I talked to my friends at jags often. I have a great relationship with the company and I've had a great relationship with the company. Did two thousand four. I have been a squire. Which means that I am. I own a plot of land at the Jack. Daniel's distillery in Lynchburg Tennessee now that plot of land is basically one foot by one foot by one foot by one foot. And it's not a lot of land but some lane. I'm a squire. They call it a Jack. Daniel's Tennessee Squire so here from my friends at Jack and they were so excited. That travis mentioned the chase rice concert on instagram. And they've done a couple of concerts now. Acoustic shows on instagram. Live with with one chase rice. Which was the one that travis mention and then they did a subsequent one with Ashley McGrath of Galanga and Bob. Forty four fame. A lot of people might not know her but man. She's got some height seeking Gogo. You'd WanNa know who believed in her. I like her. I believe his name is Erik well. It's actually John Pete's John Peaches Eric's manager and John smartest person I've ever met in my life. I'm and I'm not that's not a. That's not hyperbole. That's I'm not. I'm not trying to be funny. The the smartest most forward thinking person I've ever met the most creative mind always tell John. He's playing chess and everybody else's playing checkers. So John Pete's was also the person that heard brothers Osborne when everybody else was like. Yeah that doesn't really work in this town. John went. I'm in the he heard Ashley I'm in so he. He's very very very very very smart. So so long story short. Jack Daniels does a concert with chase rice on instagram. Live and travel watched it well. He watched it on the wrong day but he watched it and he told the story and it was funny and we. We laughed about it and my friends. Jack Daniels appreciated that. He took the time to watch and they said we would like to send travis a thank you yet and I said well. Let's send travis a thank you gift till I went on a covert mission. Is Travis what his address was. And Travis I'll let you take it from there. What happened you text me? Ask Me What my addresses and I didn't think anything of it and then I'm sitting here going to knock my door and like I don't have a ton of visitors over here guys. Got a mask on like a giant Brown paper sack of looks like it's a food delivery guy and I'm like I think they get the wrong address since eat. Mealy starts looking at his phone. He says my address gay traumatic. Yeah I'm like I didn't order anything. He goes from Jack Daniels and I instantly go instantly my head. I'm like Mardi sent me Jack Daniels. It's a giant bottle of all number seven and then small Three small apple honey and fire that I got sick and I thought it was from you and I thank you. I haven't heard anything since then. An apparently it's not for me. Thank you Jack. Daniels reasons I did. Not Right back here is I did not want to. I wanted you to find out that it was from them on here and so I'm glad it's well deserved it's earned and it's awesome that but all number seven is but then the sweep you should. I mean it's God's water son. It's the truth it's a look you know it's my family lineage man. If y'all don't know that store you need to get my boot. Never settle wrote. I put the whole story about Dan. Cole my great great grandfather I have. Actually it's three greats. I think I don't remember how many greats always forget but I do know that at the time that never settled published in the pages of the book. I've not gone on any ancestry sites. I've not paid the sixty five dollars to go. Find Out WILMA. Cousins did and they sent me a screen grab of proof from ANCESTRY DOT COM or one of those I think it's ancestor dot com that there is Dan call and my grandfather. James Cameron Massey. Was the preacher man in George Patton's Third Army. And he never told a lie then he told us he was so proud story and if he thought he was proud proud. I'm now you can't be prouder than I am about that back. Then they listen to when we had Jeff. Don Appreciate appreciate why Jack Daniels wound up with Jack. Daniel's distillery but man can you imagine I wouldn't be talking to you right you don't more than at one worth more than one square foot propped. They'd be more more than square foot of property son. At least she got that property. That's all the time we have right now. Thank you so much to all of the doctors all of the nurses of the EMT's and first responders out there who are working so tirelessly to help so many people who are suffering. I am currently doing a series of features for ESPN on a lot of former athletes. Who are on the front lines. They will be coming out very soon and I can't wait for you guys to see him. They have inspired me so much to the brink of tears to the point of tears in some cases. Thank you so much to our law. Enforcement Officials are firemen. Who are out there. Still doing their jobs. They're going into these homes they are. They are helping people in a time of great uncertainty. So thank you guys into our military all over the world. Thank you for your sacrifice every day. That's Marty Smith's America. Thank you to lane Kiffin your time. So much. Can't wait to see him. So when we're kicking off football's again. That's the Lee Roy. Yarbrough edition volume ninety eight of Marty. Smith's America thank. Y'All for listening be will stay safe.

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Bye Bye Buckeye

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So that's important. Now the leaves are green and the sun. The sky is blue and it's about it's not fifty degrees. It's just one more weird weather day in a weird weather year. Adam written Burgas here as well, though Adam. Hello guys here from kind of normal is Chicago's far as the weather goes. I was actually in Ames Iowa over the weekend. I was expecting, you know, ninety mile an hour winds, and it was surprisingly nice. So maybe we'll have a nice here close to the season in terms of weather around the midwest for everyone, but the West Virginia mountaineers I take it. They probably felt like they were playing in a cyclone. See what you did there. So it's like you're a writer. Wow, very good. I just I just take us from you too. Well, give me my q.'s back on need them. We have a lot to talk about today. We are going to dive in depth into the Nick Bosa story. We will discuss recruiting middle schoolers because it's been several days since anybody mentioned lane kiffin. We've got actually some good football games to discuss this weekend and also the ongoing problems at Maryland a lot to get to. But first, let's get out of the tunnel. Time to come out of the tunnel on campus conversation. This this story broke. I think during the podcast yesterday in the guys discussed it briefly, we're going to go a little deeper into it. Mick Bosa withdrawing from Ohio State the potential number one pick in the twenty nineteen. NFL draft will withdraw from school or has withdrawn from school to concentrate on rehabbing the core muscle injury that needed surgery earlier this season, and I was on September twentieth as a matter of fact, there was no timetable for his return, but it was going to be probably late regular season or pre playoff here is Nick's father John discussing the decision family, just just a horrible decision in just a heartbreaking decision for us because. As you know, we were, I think we're going to witness one of the most amazing years at defensive lineman at here and and and obviously nNcholas was focused his, you know, part of his goals with, you know, to to see how far we get through down the play offs. And so it was a very difficult decision, but obviously as a family and and to look at the repair and for his future health and and continuing his career. This is the right decision to to make. That's interesting for a number of reasons, and we should all begin our discussion with the caveat that we don't really have a lot of details about the this Verity of the injury or the difficulty of the rehab. So we are flying a little blind certainly never stopped me, but. Adam, I I'm, I'm just I don't really understand why he needed to withdraw. So I don't know whether you've been talking to people in Columbus or just your general thoughts. Right. Well, I think when this is a unique injury, a core muscle injury that he sustained in the TCU game on September fifteenth, had surgery with a specialist in Philadelphia on September. Twentieth I spoke to Nick, Nick, mom, Cheryl. You know about a couple of weeks after the surgery, and they thought that the earliest I probably get back to playing would be sometime in December. He would have to go back and be reevaluated in early November and would have to get back into game shape or be quote, unquote cleared. I think that would likely not be until the postseason, whether that's a bowl game or a playoff game for Ohio State. And this is unique family, and it's something we talked about. Cheryl is the fact that you mentioned John Boese, John Bosa former number-one pick John Bosa John boats father of other number one, pick till we both those Miklos brother shero Bosa sister a former number one, pick Eric humor. Oh, so this is a family that. Pretty good genes understands this process that knows exactly where Nick is going, and that's to be number one, pick and the twenty nineteen and fell draft. I think the disappointing part you're right is the withdrawing from school the not being with your teammates through the rest of the season. My understanding from some of the reporting out of Columbus is that after they meet with the specialist in Philadelphia, again. Nick is going to go train in Los Angeles where Joey, obviously, playing with the chargers and will remain there until getting ready for the NFL combine. So there's not going to be any sort of connection to state, and that's kind of a bummer because he was really a popular player on that team. A guy that was was was beloved and caused no trouble and was loved by the players love by the coaches. And so it would have been nice to see Nick Bosa standing on the sideline when they go against Michigan on November twenty fourth, or even in the playoff, if that's what it comes to. I don't know if that's going to happen, maybe it will. It'd be great if it could, but as far as the under the decision to cut short the career, this is a pretty unique situation and I have a hard time blaming him for doing that because he's in all likelihood going to be top three draft pick in April. Yes. But I still don't understand why. You know, he couldn't continue his rehab around his team and not be top three pick, and you know. I keep thinking that I'm just stuck in somewhere in the nineties eighties that things have changed and attitudes change. And certainly his players in his coaches. Nobody's lashing out. They also they understand Ryan is this, is this the new reality that to me, it's beginning to remind me just a wee bit of basketball and yet when guys leave and and and basketball has suffered from guys leaving, and I'm just concerned a little bit that that football maybe slipping down that slippery slope in my media reaction was the same. I think about. We kind of went through this a little bit with litter for net Christian McCaffrey, not playing their bowl games, and this is different than that. I get that, and but it has that same kind of feel to it l. say this though in college basketball, it's a much larger percentage of players in college football. I mean, you know, both is a is a top half of the top one percent of the players. And so I don't know. And I would put Leonard for net and Christian McCaffrey into that. That boat too. So I don't know that it's going to feel quite a sweeping as it doesn't cause basketball because college basketball, it's so out of control guys are leaving when they shouldn't be leaving and they're leaving after year. It's just complete mess. And everyone agrees with that. They just don't seem to want to fix it. So in this situation, I don't know. But I hope is just from a college football perspective, because I think my feelings on the NFL well documented, I don't even watch it from college football perspective. I don't have any feelings, right, exactly. But it hurts. And so the hope is it's not going to be a pattern in my hope is because he is so elite in because of that background that Adams talking about with his brother and his father and his mother. All that. I hope that this is just something that will see occasionally only from the very from the guys who think they could be the number one traffic. And that's always going to be a relatively small percentage. It's just unfortunately also going to be really big names. Yeah. Well, my problem. I agree. I hope you're right, but, but I fear you're wrong. If only because the next kid comes along, may think he's Nick both or may want to be like Nick Bosa or may Kwait himself with Nick. Bosa may have an agent telling him he's Nick Bosa, but he's not Nick Bosa, and that's kind of what happened in basketball. And I get the fact that perhaps rushing to play in a playoff game. That's what I. Keep thinking. Perhaps, you know, for him to be ready to play in a playoff game and or national championship well or but and a national championship game would be rushing things physically. And again, that's pure speculation, but. On the other hand. You know when these guys bail out on bowl games or when they do what, what Nick both is done that you know the site, the fear of injury in the bowl game, and we all immediately leap to Jalen Smith at Notre Dame have suffered injury. Three years ago in the festival again. So how state and then we all eat to Willis mcgahee and who in the two thousand two Esteban all suffered that gruesome knee injury in the championship game in the fourth quarter against the highest state. Clearly you don't wanna play house state in the festival. I think that's the lesson Nick Bosa was never going to have to do that. So that's my stand. I'm kidding. It's just a weird coincidence. But other than those two guys, I can't think of another catastrophic injury to top player. And yet all of a sudden we're beginning to see people leave for that fear and Adam. I being irrational here or. Well, you're often irrational but not in this. Does that mean. Does that mean. Mike, just cut his Mike. Get out of there. No, you're not. And I've already started talking to some coaches about this for a piece that's going to run next week on. He plus. And I asked David Shaw yesterday because he's had a player the last couple of years in the program in Bryce love. We all know is going to likely go on into NFL career and his that injuries last year. Now this year and David's response was something to the effect of were devaluing the college experience. We're so focused on just the pro discussion and the draft and exceleron adding it. And there's just not enough appreciation for for college football and just everything that you get out of that. And so he was he was more sad that that this is happening and, and that it could happen to other players basically decide, you know, what might college football experiences over on this date which is much earlier than in many cases it should be. And we'll see if that continues with other guys or if this is like we said, a pretty unique. Eek. Casey. I just talked to dabble Sweeney right before coming on the podcast and he was like, I don't know why everyone so surprised. This is the number one pick who had a pretty severe injury. You know, for him to just, you know, go and say, I'm done at this point is not a huge shock to him. So everybody is kind of a different view of it. But I think that fear is real, but also just the environment that we're guys are entering their third year, and we're already talking about them as number one pick or even guys in their second year and not even eligible for the draft, where are they going to be drafted, and how do they fit in at the next level and they in a pro style system or do they have to adjust to transfer into houses that discussion begins. So early obviously begins before the basketball players even arrive on campus, but it's starting earlier and earlier in college football, especially at the quarterback position because those guys come in with just better skills and better training than they ever have. So I don't think this this discussion is going to go away. I don't know if we're gonna be talking about ten guys here that do this, but I think we're gonna be talking about. Guys do it Ryan. Did he just blame the media? Oh, yeah. No, I think the. It's our fault. I mean, I just assume going in, we just know that's how that is. Okay. Well, I'm glad we solve that issue because we've come down to figuring out that Mosa left because of the media, so good. All right. Let's move on them getting down on the football field makes you. But getting back up makes you tougher at Goodyear. We call that determination a willingness to put in more hours more reps and more of heart to reach a bar that's sky high because the Goodyear blimp doesn't show up for just anybody. So don't be just anybody be blimp worthy. Good here. More driven. Whenever a show gets too serious. There's always lane kiffin to Bailey out kiffin has offered a scholarship to eleven year old coal liner. These sixth grade son of former USC Trojan all American Heisman Trophy winner, Matt liner. Who horse played Giffen was an assistant. Coach coaching quarterbacks. While Matt was was playing for USC course. The NCAA doesn't truly recognize football players. It's prospects until they get to high school and the younger liner that has not committed to any school except maybe to return to middle school for seventh grade. I think we can count on that. This is verbal though. Good point, good. It's not in writing. I'm. I'm actually sort of speechless on this one Ryan. I is there anything is just another lane kiffin moment that one more hook and that we're all biting or. Sure this I make of it that I have a middle school daughter, and if I saw when she committed anywhere, well, if I saw lane kiffin who I like if I saw him wandering around the campus. Trying to sign there is one kid at the middle school that there's no question. I've known since third grade if he wants to play college football, he can do it. I mean, he's he looks like a forty year old man walking around campus. If I saw lane kiffin trying to sign him, then I'll probably would call the police because I just don't. It's just is weird, right? And listen in Charlotte where I live, we went through a whole drama with this people. Remember, Chris leak who played football at Florida, his his, his brother. The leaks were, were his brothers simul Wake Forest when he was a middle school and it created a complete disaster mess in. So I just I don't know what good comes of it, but because it's liner and because it's kiffin and because they have known each other Matt liners, don't like his entire adult life. That's what this is, but, but I'll tell you this. If I see college coaches want around middle school campus, then the we call it. The resource officer is probably going to escort that personnel campus. They don't need to be there man, very good point. Adam. Does. Of course, it's a publicity stunt and we felt for it, but. Matt liners kid kids got the genes to play quarterback, right? Yeah. Our former colleague and friend, Bruce Feldman tweeted out a video of him throwing the ball like thirty five yards in the flag football game or something the other day. So he goes, I'm sure he's gonna play somewhere. I don't think lane kiffin is going to be at FAU in what would that be? Twenty twenty five twenty twenty four when very cold weiner's start school and you know, he's he's not even able to be recognized as a prospect until the ninth grade. So I think this is just all in good fun. They obviously know each other well and you know it's just it's just a way to get the news when they're what three and three and not making much of a dentist here on the field. Okay. All right. Sorry, listeners we fell for it. On a much worry. Serious note, Nicole Auerbach. Our friend that the athletic most of the store yesterday which she interviewed several parents of Maryland football players who have joined forces to encourage the school, not the bring back DJ and the head coach who is on. I don't know. I don't know how you would describe where he is. State of Lee paid administrative leave. Thank you, of course, on August tenth, yes. PIN reported at Maryland's football coaches presided over a quote, toxic culture, close quote under darken, characterized by abuse name, calling and bullying. And the next day university put dark on the aforementioned paid administrative leave and began an investigation of allegations that investigation is continuing. And of course, this all emanates from the death of offensive lineman Jordan McNair in June, the parents told our Bach and the athletes that their son said, they didn't think their parents would believe them, and they didn't want to worry their parents with one parent saying, specifically quote, we are worried that this narcissistic sociopath is going to come back to me. He should never coach again, close quote. Adam, you have been close to this story that is in case anybody thought that Maryland was going to sort of let things die down and quietly try to bring and into the back door. I think this. The story prevented that from happening. Right? And I don't know exactly who Nicole talk to. We were kind of joking about it a little bit on undeveloped message yesterday, but I've talked to parents who've said very, very similar things, and probably some of the same parents and they have talked to me about their fear of coming forward and saying anything and other parents trying to silence them because their sons of had different experiences underpin. And you know, there's been kind of a well-crafted PR campaign on the other side of it saying that didn't do anything wrong, and he's treated our kids well, and we should bring him back and it's a witch hunt by the media. But here you have three different outlets. You have ESPN obviously that I was part of along with Heather dentists and Tom van Herren with our report in August. Then just as the investigative report, I think was going to be wrapped up with a decent chance. They were going to bring him back saying, they quote found nothing, which is a little bit hard to believe. The Washington Post comes out with a report in late September. So then they. To go back and re interview people and talk to other parents. And now you have the report from Nicole in the athlete. Coming out. So it's a lot out there. I know that people every everyone wants it to be on the record and people's names just telling you the environment on team when when you're on the negative side of it, which in and I think it's the truthful side of it. It's very, very difficult to come forward with your name attached to it when your kids on scholarship and none of us can really relate to that, like those parents can. So where do we stand? I heard this morning that that there's a likelihood that they'll be some news later today possibly with a time line of when we're going to finally get a decision or at least what the board of regents the university system board of regents, which includes Maryland college park. They have a meeting on Friday a previously scheduled meeting. So I would assume that we'll we'll find out later today or in the next day or so, if there will be some findings that will be shared at that meeting. So I think I think it's in the home stretch, but I said that before and we're more than halfway through the season without a resolution. Like you said, I've and there's been several waves of this now with similar allegations that we'll see how the university and it's a person investigative group, how seriously they, they take those allegations, or if they found different things about the program to me the most amazing and not discussed part of the story, Ryan is the fact that Maryland is four and two this year. Yeah, and their two and one in the in the big ten east. I'm gonna see him on Saturday. Yeah, and I'm really, I'm going to be up there work on another story and I'm going to go to the game and I wanna see, I look very quietly their schedules fallen together, like they could make an hour on like they do every four or five years. I really wanna see Maryland because you know they want a big game at the start of the year. The game continues to come become bigger as Texas does well, and I'm just curious to see where they are. And will there be a sense of a hope that what Adam saying exactly how it's going to go down. They'll be a decision and can get on with their LA. Lives because I'm curious to see just on the sideline in pre-game how everybody feels because how, how they have managed to put together a great season certainly from Maryland in recent history despite all of this that's going on and I don't know a lot of people understand how awful this is. I feel like it's not a like within our world, the media world, we're Tom and all the time I don't. I don't feel no one's asking me about it. You know? I don't know if the college will fans understand how awful this whole thing is. So I'm totally impressed with what the team on the field has done in what has just been the worst. I mean, war circumstances that Maryland Iowa game noon, Saturday on ESPN two Ryan. Will you be sideline reporting again or you would just be scribe ING? No, I'll just be scrubbing and eating corn. Very exciting to see you on television last week. I was like, I know that guy. That long haired hippie in the Joe, his wife, who's that guy? Let him on the field every every now and then, yeah, there's some some vagrant where everybody else rushed the field. So I just did it with them. I got rushed. You rush the field on the sideline at Iowa State and this guy, I think he was trying to take me out because he, I think he saw me and kind of stumbled into me. Knock me over and then gets up and starts running. I'm like, he, he knew what he was doing. I got up said yes, it was targeting. Cheers. That was the most neither security. I call the Pac twelve office and I had that targeting cholera reversed. So this is the second show in a row that we've had anger stemming from field rushing 's. Yes. Heather, went off yesterday. You should go back and check that out. If you haven't, they'll issue situation as topping up, and we were right in front of the student's section. You could feel it coming. I grabbed, I had a photographer producer y'all. We need to move because they were leaning casually up against the fence as the students were starting to come down. Like I don't know if you've ever been here before, but they're definitely coming out here. So we, we put some space between ourselves and the and the people come on. I am impressed McGee that you were able to get from that and ruse to Ames and dress in your mountaineer outfit and with your musket and took pictures. You didn't wanna talk to me before the game. I didn't know about it. You ain't teleporting there? Yeah. Yep. I'm like Laura Rutledge. There's nine of me. One more I do want to point out Maryland's gets Michigan, state, analyze state in college park coming down the stretch. 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Go to stamps dot com before you do anything else. Click on the radio microphone at the top of the homepage and type in campus, that stamps dot com. Enter campus hashtag, walk on. That's right bar. The show where you do all the work for us. You ask the questions using the hashtag walkathons and we really appreciate it. We got a lot of questions, and unfortunately, we only have time to answer three of them one a piece, Josh, what he have usually go on your spiel about how it doesn't necessarily have to be. Twitter can be Email. It can be telegram. That we actually do have an Email and it's for atom from Bruce McNeil via the electric mail. Bruce says, if you were given the power to change anything you wanted to in the selection of the four teams for the college football, playoff, what would you change? For example, something along the lines of setting minimum standards of schedule to qualify for the playoff. For example, again, another example, Alabama has three cupcakes scheduled for this year. Not counting Tennessee. If the minimum standard was no more than one, cupcake, Alabama would not even be considered for the playoff. The idea would be to encourage a dis to improve scheduling. What say you Adam? Yes. BRUCE'S speaking my language and I think it's simple. What I would change is a minimum requirement of ten power, five opponents, not including a conference championship game. So if you're in a league like the big ten or the big twelve or the Pac twelve, you're playing your nine league games plus one more power. Five opponent. I love to make it so that like you could schedule UCF and that count. But because the nature scheduling is so far in advance, you're not gonna know if you see, f is current UCF or end of Georgia Leary tenure UCF, which is not going to impress anybody. So I hate to break it into the power, five group of five thing. But I would believe if every you know. So if you're one of those leagues, you're adding one more power, five opponent. But the key to me if you're in the ACC or especially the SEC you're playing eight conference games, which I don't like, but it is what it is. You have to schedule two more power, five opponents. Now most of them have one, but very few of them have to. So in Alabama's case, they'd played their aid SEC opponents. They'd have Louisville, which produces considering a cupcake again, when they scheduled Louisville, they weren't and they just turned out to be it just bad luck. So that's why you schedule another power, five opponent making ten dollar fives. You'd have to whatever's cupcakes, call them whatever you want. And then you'd have to play essential. Really a thirteenth power, five eleventh-hour five opponent in the league championship game. That to me is a real profile that to me on the whole for most teams is gonna give them give the committee a real sense of where they're at, whether they're atop fourteen because the scheduling differences just drive me nuts. I mean, USC this year is you know, often many years playing eleven power. Five opponents in some in other conferences are playing eight. That's just isn't right. So you've been has said many times. He would like to play ten conference games. So he is. He's on your side, but he's not gonna win that fight. I mean, I think what you have, he's not gonna win that fight. So you have to control it yourself and then Greg Byrne and save it, and whoever does a schedule that means one more power, five opponent and it home a lot of times, Alabama people. Homes get is great or whatever. Yeah, but we played Louisville or we played whomever. Yeah, you played them somewhere else. You know to me to schedule your starts to do that. Yeah, and I think it's important. Yeah, I've in this questions for you from Kyle. Kyle Egan to be precise. He's at tiger fan in Tampa wants to know how is it that UCF blows out Pittsburgh and nobody cares, but Notre Dame barely wins against the Panthers and it's called a gutsy win. Also, Clemson versus NC state will be the last unbeaten versus unbeaten matchup of the power five season. Do you think the Tigers running game is the key for a national championship run. The last question I yes, of course the the running game, and we've spoken about this on the podcast how lindzen has jointly transformed into a. Grinded out powerful running team, at least until Trevor Lawrence gets his feet under him as a freshman quarterback, and they are very fortunate that they have the talent of both on the line and in the backfield to do that. As for UCF and you're absolutely right. Kyle. I mean, it is a it is sort of one more dicit UCF I will say this the pit UCF game evidently was a wake up call for pit because since that forty five, fourteen loss pit has beaten a very good university of Syracuse team as well as then given Notre Dame everything they wanted and pit before that lost North Carolina got humiliated by Penn State. So something has transformed for the Panthers and it may have been the, the bite kicking. They got from the defending national champs. I don't know that should accrue to UCF's credit and I'm glad you pointed it out and I think the better pit plays coming down the stretch, the more credit UCF we'll get whether that will be enough to move them up according to the playoff. Committee. I don't know. I'm not heatherton it and they don't meet for another two weeks. So we will wait and find out to back to back national titles. Well, it certainly could. Yeah. I mean, that would be nobody's done that since. Well, Alabama. Did it a couple years ago. Fair point. Fair point. Finally, Ryan, this one for you from Robert a king answer this one. Seriously. It's might be your boss. He's at Robert. Augusta's king says, was Nick Sabin correct? When he said that the playoff has completely diminished all other bowl games in the eyes of both players and fans alike. Is it simply playoff for us? I think it is in Tuscaloosa. I don't know that that's the case in a lot of other places. I think if you make your living at Alabama LSU or whatever. Sure. I think that it's college playoff or bus, but I think that ratings for the most part. I mean, they were about half and half while they were upper down for the bowl games last year. So people still watch them. I say that all the time and I can tell you right now that Nick Sabin may not watch the belt bowl, but it made Wake Forest. Year last year. And so I think there are teams that still their goal isn't to make the playoffs because they know they're not going to play off in certainly the case for the gang of five schools, which is you make the best ball game that you can make and you do the best that you can go back to all the time. Former players I talked to in their forty years old and they're still wearing their ring from the Kraft fight hunger bowl, or the weed eater bowl, or they're wearing their watch from the insight dot com. It's still means something to the teams and the programs that make it there. And by the way they still get the extra practices to. So yes, I think it may have diminished it in the eyes of Nick Sabin, but also think that Nick Sabin knows that he will not be coaching in the belt bowl anytime soon. Keep the questions coming. You know what to do. Use the hashtag, walk on the extra point. All right. Here's where we take something in the world of college football tell you a little bit more about it. Adam, what do you have. Well, I am going to Pullman wa. I'm not. I'm not actually going, but I'm going to talk about Pullman, Washington, and how cool it is that college game days going to be headed there. This weekend was so fired up when I saw that announcement from Kirk herbstreet and Lee fitting and all the game day folks after leaving Michigan stadium on Saturday, they're going to be finally heading out to the police for this weekend's game between a Washington state which is squeaked into the top twenty five at twenty five and number twelve, Oregon, and that's a scene that's going to be really special. I know that it always is when they go to a new place, but given Washington state's history with the show and bringing old crimson two games, it's going to be awesome. I wanted to give a shout out to Washington state friend of mine who won't be there. Amber CASAs who met her husband was one of my best friends Glenn. When they Glenn was working out there covering Washington state, she won't be there. But I know she'll be watching this. The scene on Saturday, which would be really, really special. So I can't can't wait to watch that and congrats to all the cougs out there you deserve it. You've waited for it. You've shown up every week at every game day site with that flag. And now it's coming to your house. So very, very cool scene. I will tell everybody I spoke with our colleague, my good friend in the game day legend himself Jean Wolter hausky last night who is already in Pullman, and he said, he said to me last night, he said, you know, I've been here few times, but I never, I don't remember it being this beautiful. He said, this is a beautiful campus, and so shot out to the cougs and to everybody in Pullman. I can't wait to see the show Saturday for all those reasons Ryan. What do you got? Yeah, I went out there for the first time a year ago and leading into the game, and I felt the same way just walking around and it's such an other worldly place making that draw for Spokane down. To Poelman and like all the hills were Brown and everybody's yet to come back with his green because it looks like a completely different planets. It's the police is and plus it's the most ridiculous swarm of moths I've ever seen in my life. They almost couldn't have their practice in the stadium because of all the moths I don't know what that means, but Leach told me that was their secret weapon. If you needed to, he could summon the moths to to attack viz. Right? Tom at Washington state. It also was another now segment of big out of that area is about Robertson will be retiring as the radio voice of Washington state football, fifty, two seasons, and, and he's going to be hanging up immediately. I mean, call him basketball football, everywhere else he has. He's a legend in that part of the world and have said this before my favorite part of traveling is dialing up like on Friday night, high school football on AM radio, as I roll into town for college football game the next day. And you can always tell the play by play voices that have the greatest impact in the area because on Friday night, all of the high school guys sound exactly like the college on Saturday, like it's they're trying their best to mimicking Roberts one of those guys that when I went out to the police and I was dialing up games, everybody's all those young kids doing play by play Senate. Exactly. Like because. Who they grew it with. But he always signed off every broadcast by saying the same thing, which was always be a good sport, be a good sport, always, and Allah. So excited year go to finally get to visit about Robertson in person and congratulations on outstanding career. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, that's that name certainly legendary and Pacific northwest, and and both both Ryan and I have a soft spot for those voices because now that football as ubiquitous on television, the radio voices have stepped back a little bit in their importance to community, but they are still. They are still celebrities within their own little world. I was in Tuscaloosa last Saturday and saw you like gold outside the stadium, and we chatted for a few minutes in Eli, has been the voice of the tide for a long time, and and soon as I said, goodbye, somebody, you know, breathlessly asked him for a selfie and and and he had it was gonna be a tough walk for him to get where he needed to go because of all the people coming up to him. My, I'm going to expand a little bit on the question. That I was asked and walk on just talking about UCF in the playoff and spinning from there into see us football. So bear with me according to the FBI football power index UCF has an eight percent chance to beat Alabama in the national championship game. And that's similar to a seven percent chance that North Dakota state the top team and the would have to be Alabama. Now, if you see, f and North Dakota state were to play, and let's say FCS championship, and I'm not trying to cast aspersions on on UCF just this was something these were numbers that. Are sick. People ran UCF what have a sixty? Two percent chance to win that game, which is the same chance that Alabama currently would have to be Ohio State. I started thinking about North Dakota state in the bison who have won six of last seven FCS titles. I look up how many undefeated teams there are left in the f. c. s. because we know they are eight and the f. b. s. and there will be no more than seven after Saturday. When Clinton North Carolina State play, they're down to four in the FCC s. Colgate, Princeton, Dartmouth, and North Dakota state. Princeton Dartmouth, we'll play on November. Third as if that day didn't have enough really important football games, including Alabama, LSU, Penn State, Michigan, West Virginia, Texas, Georgia, Kentucky, Stanford, Washington, Texas am Auburn. I wha Purdue Notre Dame. Northwestern is also a showdown in the Ivy league between Dartmouth and Princeton. So whatever you do clear the decks for November third, and also clear the decks for tomorrow's podcast, who's on Josh. Jake, Matt, Ryan McGee is back kalala Trotter and match. Schick check Ryan or Matt Ryan. Did I say Jake Ryan, Jake Ryan or Matt Ryan, but you could have like Schick McGee candles and football. What else did you want? Okay. Well, some of those people, whoever they are will be on the show tomorrow adamant. I will be back on Friday with who God knows who scheduled to be ceelo, but we'll see scheduled to be ceelo. So Adam will will have to play Adam and you know, like half speed. For that. 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Hour 3 - Lane Kiffin (12-11-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 3 - Lane Kiffin (12-11-19)

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We have up. who what bothers you? The most. The Patriots Allegations Yankees spending a lot and undisciplined Alabama Duke. And it's by far the Patriots. Noko I don't know if they're for or against the allegations but people are not liking that I had a random totally totally random polka. Okay Levian bells in big trouble in New York because he was caught bowling the Saturday night before missing. Sunday's game yeah. Would you rather be great a bowling or a pool or poker not great enough to make a living out of but just great that you could dominate your buddies at the bar bowling pool or poker I was thrown out because Levy on to fifty six on Saturday poker. I could make a living well bowling pool. Technically I guess you could I could but I could. I can always find a poker game can make a lot of money in Pogo. Okay Yeah Dr Darts. I guess I think pool like pools still looks glamorous. When you're really good at it you know Dr Darts is still weird and then bowling just because because you're a great bowler thank you don't even? You don't necessarily look cool if you're a great bowler but if you're a great pool you'll cool. Yes this kind of true like even even like the best bowler in the world is still kind of like. Yeah Yeah then you really get the sense that you could if you spent a year right now. If you spent the next twelve months you could become a professional bowler. He'll let you think. Yeah I mean I think we've all had decent games in bowling but if you show up with your own ball and shoes you still look kind of Dorky. If you show your own Pew a pool cue new young pool stick. I mean you look pretty pretty bad ass there your own darts and you have your own little dark compartment. Their case. That's not cool. It's not but you're in a pub though when you're playing playing darts mostly you have a beer in your hand but pool tables in a bar I'd be. I'd be a pool player. The problem with being a really good pool players that you also have to be a really good fighter because you're going to get into a lot more Because it you know people are GonNa step up and be like I got next and then what's going to happen can you. They're gonNA throw it or you're GonNa win and then you're going to get into fights yes mclovin you've owned your own ball right. You're the guy I then shoes. I own my own ball and shoes I tim. You're the only guy here. has anyone else seen. This is when I was at CNN. And and I didn't know anybody and then my wife said will you you know. Do they have a baseball team softball team. They have a bowling team. She said why. Don't you join the bowling team. And I hated it like nobody. Nobody had any fun fun like there was beer but nobody they were really serious that we were that we were actually GonNa win and I finally said to them guys. We're not any any good. Let's just have fun. And they were really serious co Ed know what even go ahead. Oh Yeah I had guys who were really serious in on names and stuff. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Everybody had a nickname and I said could we get like goofy shirts and stuff and no matter what I said it was always the wrong. Think what do you mean goofy just called bowling shirts. Doesn't that go along with the shirt that it's GONNA look bad guys like gutter balls with the the the Ad Really GonNa Paul's No. We were diesel ball that that was. That was what I was the seventeen split. Yeah Split A. Z.. Spice it up. Yes mclovin November alright was not that would get interesting. Maybe our sports caster John Frikkie was on my bowling team. I was on his and he's from Nebraska. He was really really serious about bowling. All in country yes. It was really really serious and I I pride myself in being a decent athlete growing up it was one of the lower points in my life life when I went in and got my own ball and shoes because I wanted to show the guys on the team that I was all in on the team. It was one of those statement purchases where you go. Oh God similar to young todd. Fritz at the Barn San Bernardino yes. Eight hundred sixty four dollars denim and diamonds with that get up. I don't know how ladies word flocking and nobody falling in love with a guy bringing his own bullying. What about the did you have the risk guard that Hanyang restraint and I had that had it all that it wasn't a fun and then they would monitor? How many Beers I had people counting my beers when I'm bowling? I'm going no no no no can't do that and I said look I'm going to get better the more beers I drink and then they allowed me to drink beer and then you get to that point where you're not getting better because I think we've gone to the bar and you played pool when you want them killing it and then you have another beer. I'm killing it and then you have another beer and you go. I'm getting killed. There's always that point where you go. I think I've had one too many and I always had one too many. Then you then you it's like a gutter ball so come on come on you just need to pick up seven gutter. Go have like a beer and a bunch of French fries than you used a little air blower to dry off your hand. Ah maybe a little powder rosin bag. Yeah Yep did all those things all those cheesy same guilty. That's why didn't go bowling over Thanksgiving with my family member. I went to see the movie by myself knives out and everybody else was going bowling and and I said I'm not I'm not going to go bowling and my wife goes you're with your family. I go I know but I don't WanNa go. Bowling brings back. It's too soon. I don't roll on Thanksgiving excuse. Those memories are too painful. Sounds like you spared them. The embarrassment yeah well done well do for change. This program brought to you by the great folks at Golden Road Brewing. And if you're going to the Christmas party golden in Rhode Brewing. We got it for you. Mango Carl Obsession. Ip a will have those on tap available in all fifty states perfect for all your holiday parties and you have rotating seasonal limited edition. Bruise there freshest ingredients get a little California every one of their beers. California inspired Golden Road Brewing. Fresh fresh craft beer since two thousand eleven. Get to your phone calls coming up for you. Just sent me something that the uptick in home runs is attributed attributed to that seem heights and batting techniques not juiced baseball look at a story from Jeff Passan that hit the wires just a little while ago trying. I figure out other reasons why all these home runs that are not PD. Related decreases in air resistance spurred by the inconsistent seem team height on the baseball and quote changes in player behavior that produce different launch angles and exit velocities. That led to the dramatic dramatic increase in home runs during the twenty nine thousand nine hundred so they had a committee of professors asked by Major League Baseball. Tell them explain why why we had six thousand seven hundred. Seventy six home runs during the regular season eleven percent higher than the previous year. So you had players who questioned this. And so they commissioned a study there and that's what they came up with the the the height of the scenes and The launch angle created more. Home runs yelling but if the same heights were different on baseball's then that's exactly what we're saying the balls are different. I guess yeah but that wouldn't be. Did they do it on purpose. Yes that's what I'd want to know if they said boy you know what we don't have to juice up the baseball's but if we change the height of the seams on baseball you'll get more home runs for the same height somehow accounts for about thirty five percent of a balls carry according to the report so the committee developed a new technique. That tied I do seem to the drag coefficient little above iron great. I figured Oh yes. It is Nancy. This back to bowling on bell went bowling Saturday night. Eight and he was suffering from the flu. I guess he bowled a really good game. A two fifty one and he's making no apologies that he went bowling in Saturday night. I don't feel bad about what I did. Bell said. I didn't break any rules. I wasn't a distraction until now bell hasn't said too much judge Adam gays. Don't get along Adam. Gays didn't want him. I don't think on bell is with this team next year. But does it. If you're a you know a suitor for Louisville unveil does this give you pause of what happened in Pittsburgh and now who is in New York. It wouldn't me and plus I'm not paying him fourteen million dollars I'd say. Oh you WANNA come in. How about eight million dollars lady on? How about how about you give us a team? Friendly discount here and we'd be more then happy to work. You work you into the lineup. But so here he is. He's saying that he has no regrets. Now he bowled like a one fifty fifty one regret like his his no regrets because he bolted to fifty one and he wasn't a distraction until somebody spotted him on a Saturday night bowling. Probably I'll be at his jersey onto troy Aikman says he wants to be in the NFL and a front office but he does not want to be with the Dallas cowboys. That leads me to Jerry. Jones owns and Jerry of course on record talking about have they talked to any coaches. Here's Jerry Jones on the possibility of replacing chasing there is a report from Jane Seo in the NFL network. Can you confirm that report. There's been a recent meeting between Stephen or yourself and urban urban Meyer. That's not correct I can. I can confirm that. It is absolutely not correct. We have not met with any coach. Not with Suny specifically why in answering that question. I want to imply that we wouldn't in a way that would diminish the credibility of the show. They Miss Kay a player. Or somebody you're asking about normally when somebody says have you met with such and such. Are you interested. It's such a touch as you said I have not. It's implication is you're not interested. That shouldn't be brought forward either. The facts are we just. I have not talked to any coach potential coach in the NFL. Have you talked to his agent. You haven't met with any coach. Have you talk to. Any coach talked to his people. That's usually how this works. It's not like Meyer is going to call Jerry Jones or Jerry Jones going to call up urban Meyer it'll be whoever's representing urban Meyer in a situation like this is probably going to hear from somebody. Jerry Jones may be Jerry Jones son reaches out and says. Hey we're just doing our due diligence WanNa see if we do make a change here. Would urban be interested in this job. I know that it doesn't is in helping. Jerry's already put too much pressure on Jason Garrett because now we expect him to be fired and instead of kind of couching a lot of this and saying you know what Jason's our guy it feels like he's gone out of his way to say Jason is going to get a job in the NFL with someone next year no not us but somebody else in the NFL so he. He hurts his arguments by doing this. I would assume that they are taking inventory of those coaches. That might be interested in this job for. Would you read those troy. AIKMAN comments again because troy was doing a radio interview. I believe yesterday and he talked about maybe working for a fun office but the reasons why he would not want to work for the Dallas Cowboys. And I thought if I'm Jerry Jones this should catch my attention it should. I don't know if it will talk. He was asked recently on thirteen ten. The ticket announcement is interesting becoming part of the cowboys. Front office. Choi says I doubt it. I think it's a real long shot. I believe it's unlikely that Jerry will ever bring anybody in. That can help this football team in that regard. Just because he's been real stubborn steadfast in that he's the one in charge. I think a lot of ways until that changes. His team is going to have some problems. Yeah that that is the new and improved troy Aikman honest troy Aikman there. where he he just gives you what his opinion truly is and Jerry Jones should at least take that under consideration what troy saying there? I don't know if he will probably not. And is Urban Meyer interested in this job is Lincoln Riley interested in this job. There's other openings. There the fact that choice said he wants to go into the front office. I found interesting because I thought well. I can't imagine that he would want now. I said I didn't think he would do it with the Dallas cowboys. But if there's another team and I think he's looking at John Elway John Lynch with the forty niners and saying you know it'd be pretty cool that'd be looks like that would be the next great challenge there. Here's another story that I found amazing the NFL will reportedly do a top down review of officiator. officiator okay this should never have been made public. How is this made public? Because now there's even more pressure on the NFL from the top down. We're going to review officiating weight. Is there something wrong with officiating here the NFL would lead us to believe. There's nothing wrong with officiating. Hey we're we got that pass interference replay rule. We got it all. We'll figure down here. Wow Oh man. How does this get public? Yes pulling yeah. We're just discussing back here. I don't think there's was anything wrong with the officials the people there's not some magical group of men out there and women that can do this better that we can't find and we're gonNA find them somewhere and by paying them fulltime and then I can do to better the job has become paralyzing because there's too many rules in a game. That's moving twenty five miles an hour. These guys are flying around the field and you're trying to adjudicate it and too many rules. Listen to much criticism. There should be less officiating. Well that's a rules. Get rid of holding. Get rid of all these all these silly rules that just hamper the game. They keep adding they don't subtract. That's always always been my big argument with the NFL. Hey will make it better by adding more language or more calls. You need to have how about you. Just get the calls is right when you get the opportunity to get the call right if you make the mistake and you you know you miss it and then they corrected then great then we all win it feels like the. NFL went out of its way to not embarrass it's officials. That was the feeling I got with all of this because there are times when you go. How is that not pass interference? Like what just tell me I would love to watch this where you hear the discussion in real time going not now. I don't see that as a penalty there. Is there a discussion. Is it just one person going and see enough there but yeah top-down absolutely you need to you you need to fix the replay part of this too because if you're going to use it then use it correctly to make sure you get the call right as much as we love thinking. Boy Loyd will never have a situation like this saints in the rams again really. I think we're going to have a disastrous call or non call in the postseason. I do what are the odds. Pretty strong right. All right. We'll take a break and we'll talk to lane kiffin. He'll join US coming up. Also oh I saw where. There's some light criticism of Joe Borough going into the draft light criticism and you know you start to put just in Herbert in there and to Ah Tong of Iowa and there are some scouts who have talked about Joe Borough that he's not threatening that he doesn't scare you. Judging from what I would just ask the defensive coordinator in the SEC. Did he make you nervous service. Now if they say no then okay but judging from what I saw against Alabama and Georgia. I'd love to if I'm a scout. I we talk to those two defensive coordinators say what was it that you saw the ad problems with. What made you nervous about? Joe Borough is he a guy that you're going to have to gain plan for you know that would be the information that I would wanNA know I will take a break. We'll come back lane kiffin. Your phone calls coming up as well. Now I'm hearing from mall these bowlers. I'm sorry I'm just not a bowler. Yes polling don't get this demo mad at uh no I know but I tried. I got my own bowl. I have my own bowling ball here with the faces on it along with mine. Yes we really blew it not starting bowling league like seven years ago. But how many do you have on a team. Can you do you up five or four. And I'm not sure yeah. I think it's four. Yeah I wanted to say four Mike. Who's the alternate who's the Hammer? Bring it home home. Who would be the worst bowler out of this group Paulie? I think it's me I'm I've I've actually tried bowling before him. Terrible at it like where. I focused since terrible totter you capable. I'm a pretty good ball. I used to bowling birthday parties I didn't have to have the little bumpers to come gunners. I pry his last year. That's that's true. I could give you like a one thirty one. Forty something in that ballpark. Maybe average one twenty five now. I need a little bit. You're not the hammer then. I don't know that that's winning any. That's not any any need. I mean the one thirty one. Forty wait isn't a meat out of. I think it's a game. I think it's a game I like meet meet holding holding meets. Yeah is it a match bowling mclovin you and you go to. Oh Yeah. I'm legit really. Oh Yeah I got a lot of bullying. We just found our thank. You just found her Dan. I never owned my own ball. Those you guys are ahead of me. I'm third I think no no. No you're the hammer now because I want to be matched up against. It's like their third or fourth guy you don't want to be Strasbourg. Are Ver Lander here. You're saying you have to go get hey seuss from the third or fourth leadoff. We'll see you're you're going to go hammer. Yeah I can do that. Leadoff Ben mclovin then me and then todd odd or going okay and were you telling me we gotta get eight pins that we lose. No I'm putting less pressure on you the lineup. I don't WanNa last okay. The third well. Let's go into a five-man League right so we can all bowl. I think the order. I'll go first polly bring you go second. I would like to Alaska's because I can handle alcohol so I could drink with anybody. How about we as you said you're terrible but I'm clutch and terrible? How about we just go bowling once? Yeah and we let we let the audience judger for any good we. Just we take the French kitty videotapes. It and we just take over Milford Bowl to see for Bowling League where they were. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Because I don't want to join a league until I think that we're league worthy and we should do a bowling league. He's so much fun. Twenty one after the hour back after this on the Dan. Patrick show everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance the like extra money in your pocket. You like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up this way to do. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. That's GEICO DOT COM lane kiffin set to join us in the continental tire coaches corner. More phone calls coming up. Ladainian Tomlinson will join us on the program. Mario Mario in the back wants to know what the play has been more analyzed the airball that he had in the a you a the semi final game or the seahawks deciding to pass on the goal aligned to lose the Super Bowl. It's close but I'm GONNA go seahawks because it's older and more time for people to review that Mario's was dumber then then the seahawks but by the way Christmas ornaments have been spectacular. Make sure you send those in and if you do have calendars unders you want us to sign. Be More than happy to do it. Self addressed stamped envelope would be very very helpful for Mario Lane Kiffin set to join us there. Todd he's all set morning coach Loria. Hey Dan doing great. How's life wonderful? I mean no I don't I don't even know what day it is. It happy happy holidays trying to find some recruits. How many opportunities did you have? Was the Arkansas offer. was that real well. I can't I'm not going to get specific ones in respect to those places but there were other definite options You know but this ended up You know looking at the roster a Lotta great young players and I was at Alabama for three years and we lost two regular season games. Both were no miss so I got to see you know what the place looks like when it was rolling so you know it's not like going to place you know do something. That's never been done before. Do you hear from Nick Sabin I got a message through someone That he was he was happy for me. Well deserved but Actually have a list here so down here to call him and thank him again. How much did you miss the SEC? While you were outside of you know I didn't every day but you know I I did you know when you're watching A. C. Championship or the National Championship. The playoffs you know or or one of those big games in the start of it you know you watch on TV and you know man you you missed that like that was the only thing that was missing was great. Phenomenal support leadership. Unbelievable players unbelie roster coming back you know hottest can be so. That part was difficult. But they're you know this was not about money on or go. This was strictly about you. Know just just missing that that AH being at the top level versus the top coaches and players in in America. But what would this lane kiffin. Tell the Lane Kiffin. Who coached the raiders? slowdown You know think things through decision making Not just major moves like you know where you're GONNA go work daily moves and I think that's natural maturity and I think that's probably got too many things too fast too early and wasn't ready for them. How do you out recruit Alabama Lsu Georgia? Well we're not going on all the guy's obviously no one does So you know we just gotTa go sell our program We're putting together a great staff one that you know when you come here you know. It's it's going to be easy to sell it to the kids. Hey you know you're gonNA get coach just like they're you know with great coaches and for the NFL and and now we just gotTa go go win game so that we can say the same thing. Hey you're coming here to win championships as well so There's a great recipe here. It's like I said it's been done before now. It just seems to be more consistent basis. You know there's been ten win seasons but then that'd be dipped down to five wins. We've got to build a program that stays up there. Well Ole miss always wins the tailgate. I will say that they are good at that effort. Yes I do remember that I remember being rushed when they beat us at Ala Alabama down here and they beat us the field rush and they win the tarmac tailgate as well and because when I landed on the tarmac there was a couple of thousand person tailgate party going on which I didn't know you could do. I'm on the airport tarmac but being so they're tailgating your arrival. Yes yes tailgate rival and look. I mean I couldn't even see them. There are so many people like the plane landed and you look out. And they got their phones. I was lights it was like a it was like a horror movie. Where like they keep closing? Yeah I get out of here. But you've had a bad tarmac experienced before I had not thought of that until jokingly the Press Carson brought it up I said yes. This is a much better tarmac memory than the last one because you got fired on the tarmac at USC Pat Haden yes. Is that how it like. Explain that to me. Well I guess in theory on the tarmac for the plane landed I got on the bus. 'cause it was like four. Am I'm and I was going back to the office because the late going Home Office sleep for a couple hours and get ready to get on the next week game plan and then The assistant athletic. JK stopped the bus. Pulled me off the bus. You know we were leaving the airport and then brought me into you know the private airport right there into one of the little conference rooms and and there. I was fired so in theory. It wasn't on the tarmac. We so how did you get home. someone drove me home One of the one of the workers or something like tape right but I still never understood that that they like. Couldn't they wait like did you have to be fired at four. AM in the morning. They take you off a bus. I guess they were so excited about you know not but they were so no. I wasn't getting rid of me like they just wanted to get. I guess. Get the whole thing over with so you know. They had the press conference the next morning. And how does your on you know announced him as interim head coach so I also saw reporter at your rush because I think we had a by the next week so I don't really understand why was such a rush. Bruce Feldman told his story that ED or on didn't get the full time job or didn't get considered for long-term because his voice least bothered some people in the athletic department at USC. Did you ever hear that I could see that happening at USC way. Hey Hey note by the way House Lsu doing right now. They're they're they're doing voice working note. Eighties don't hire you. I'm waiting for an athletic director. Say You know the reason why we hired him. He's got a really good voice. Our fans can understand where what is the next wrinkle with offense. You're an offensive minded guy. What what's next in college football? Wow I question before I think people are just still trying to figure out how to catch up with where it's at now defensively and old school offenses. Now you know around the country seat getting fired you know because they they aren't keeping up so I don't really know what the next step would be. I mean it seems like we're so far we're so far out there from where we used to be for instance at USC. Yeah I mean we don't. Our offense looks nothing like did at USC. You know. And so I'm proud of how we've evolved and got up actually even if you're the last a couple of years. NFL teams have sent down coaches. You know to learn what what we're doing. I'm bringing it up to that level kind of backwards than what you'd think. Nfl Is Copying College. Used to be the other way around. Yeah I understand that and I think it's great that you're seeing some of these head coaches in the NFL that they're adopting the style of the quarterback act. They're going to draft so the transition becomes a little easier. We're certainly seeing that with Lamar Jackson. I think we saw that with Cam. Newton do you think that's going to continue in the NFL after smart. I mean you you have to build. I mean they've always had built around your quarterback but that you should just get get good players you know. Now it's if you're gonNA write you build around your quarterback what plays are you going to call. What system are you run? And then you get people that fit that system. That never used to be talked about. Yeah yeah I I think that that's because I've seen where Bell Check has gone back to college and you know talk to Mike Leach and you know some of these Arab Nick Sabin and you know. How long do you think savings going to coach for? I think a long time really I I do I mean what else are you GonNa do. I mean does he have any hobbies. He Does Golf But but he's miserable and I mean that way but he he's why he's so good. He is singularly focused on the University University of Alabama football at Alabama. Every minute of every day even if he's golfing even if he's on a boat I mean you know he's got his recruiting costs. Make every night whether it's Christmas or whatever it is it doesn't matter everyday's the same and that's why he's so good so I don't know how he could retire. I think you know my dad's like Ah Turning Eighty this year still coaching for us. Walking around the field you know meet with players. You know helping coaches so there are certain people like could I come like prisoners. Can't go in the real world like Shawshank redemption you know when when brooks habit goes in the row where he can't he can't do it this way. I I need to be imprisoned so you know so they come back. Well remember Brent Musburger telling me that Joe Paterno would die on the job because he's a lifer that the end of that you're you're afraid need to stop and I think that you find this with like Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer's coming back to coach I do and that's not from anything. Urban is said to me so don't want some rumor mill But maybe the NFL. Not College I don't know he seems like I mean maybe seems more of a college just because his ability to recruit but but maybe you know if he if he wants to have a little more balanced than the college because colleges your long enough l.. NFL Nowadays Coach's work half a year because of the NFL PA agreements. You know a lot of these staffs when we con when we off season which is you know. They don't happen in college judge. WELL MAYBE WE'LL PAY VISIT DOWN TO OXFORD this This year bring the Danettes down there and you know. We'll we'll tailgate down there for a baby all that there might be. NCAA violations their coach. I don't know if I want fritzy in the Grove. We're staying away from those Dan. Yes we are. We're staying away from NCAA violations coach. Congratulations and we'll be in touch. Appreciate it that's Nice Lane Lane Kiffin and happy holidays. Even though he's not sure what data's continental tire coaches corner proud to be the exclusive tire. The Dan Patrick Show no matter where you drive. What you drive how you drive? They tire for you at Continental Tire Dot Com. Yes O'Connor polly said at the other day and I didn't quite get hip academy. We missed that guy. We really needed him back millions. He's he's great for college alleged football it really is. You may not like him. You may not think he's great but he is. He's like spurrier now. Those spurrier was great and hall of fame coach. But you miss is that you miss a personality you miss somebody saying something not afraid to stir it up a little bit there. You've got his work cut out for him though. Yeah Pau oh did he compare Nick Sabin to Brooks Hedlund. The old guy from Shawshank redemption. I just want to double check. He did yes he did. A helo reference by Kevin but the fact that he like. USC was was so anxious to fire him that he doesn't even get the bus ride back to campus or back to his car. It's like we're going to take you off. I can't imagine what that must have been like that conversation prior to firing firing him Pat Haden Athletic Director. JK McKay the assistant athletic directors have been so angry so livid they come back from the road. Trip was at the Oregon loss mclovin. Do you remember if that's when they got blown out. Not sure but the fact that they go so mad. Where's he is on the bus? Stop the bus. Get Him off the bus. And then you and then you fire him in then then you all leave. Yeah pulling I've been ACKFORD before when I was a sophomore in college. I almost transferred. I had such a good time. We gotta go we gotta go. It could be any game there. That tailgate is dominant mclovin. I'm reading the news. Fired following an Asu loss. That's right. Yeah Yeah that is right. Uh Yeah but just the fact that they were so angry that you take them off the bus and then you bring him into a little room and they have those private airplane. Terminals males had a little conference room in there. Probably Yup Ole Miss Hosts Alabama Saturday October. Third at Vaught Hemingway Stadium do we. We WanNa go for that game. them the biggie. They got they got offered a couple of weeks earlier. Nothing wrong with that shoot. I'll take the southeast Missouri redhawks playing in Oxford expert. Well that's what I was wondering. Do you want to go where you know if you do see coach that you want to see him before the game. Maybe not after the game. If they're playing Auburn Governor Alabama I will take a break last call for phone calls what we learn. What store tomorrow? We'll do all of that right after this in the Dan. Patrick show this summer. There's only one trusted place that lets you get in on all your favorite sports betting action that online dot. 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Thank you for downloading subscribing at of course supporting a now back to the show during the commercial break. I said Adam Schefter soft. I'd like to retract that if I could my information got my source on this. What okay? Okay that's a diff- okay. Now there's a big difference mclovin. I had kidney stones and Adam Schefter got kidney stones and then you go yeah Schefter schefter missed five weeks of work the stones I saw he worked but he was not a day game but then I didn't miss five weeks Either here's the actual tweet sped the past five days trying to pass a kidney stone in the hospital spelled hospital wrong by the way it passed ninety minutes before kick-off of Michigan Ohio State. Your Move Ohio State Michigan Greg. Would you like to issue a retraction. Well I know because just because you have kiddy shows make you soft soft anyway. It's not like you voluntarily. I know but when you said five weeks with kidney stones and then I said soft and now it's five days and I realized that you no you're in tremendous pain still soft but you know tremendous pain. I'm sorry by reporting was off. Yes you're never going to be an insider. A lot of people tweeted saying that Adam copied off of you that because you're a little bit before him programming content. Yeah I ask ask for these kidneys. I had the kidney stones implanted just so I could get a little more sympathy here when it comes to time release. Yeah they were about this when these damn I'm Kenny Stones GonNa Pass. I don't seem to remember you enjoying the very I did. Not if you've had them you would never question anybody who misses work or is not feeling well when you have no you would not. Yes yes see. I like to make fun of everyone for just about everything. But I don't want any part part of that Karma they'll do not and it is Karma no because when you get them you know you got him and it's something completely different than you've ever the hat in your life where you go. Oh 'cause you can't get in a comfortable position I Christmas ornaments. Somebody sent him making fun of my kidney stones. Which is fine like me losing my tooth and kidney stones? Hey It's fair game here. It's all content. That's what I tell todd. Every time he goes you pick on me a little too much. Sometimes I haven't said that two one at least three days no. It was a couple of weeks ago. Videotape twice my weight with dancing in the street and I didn't say say boom I don't know if he's twice your might be larger than you might be about ten pounds four. They tell you about now insulted. Now we're GONNA have a conversation. If you pick got me tease. He might be about ten pounds. Heavier has extremely mean because I saw at least fifty by just realized it wasn't on the video. Yeah yeah same exact hairdo and I would wear clothes like that and I would dance like that. There was a guy dance on the street corner. That looks just like todd but weighs about seven pounds more than Thanh town account. Oh I just got this. My source says Urban Meyer's interested in the cowboys voice. Just just saw that From what I'm told might be too toxic for college to go back and that he would be interested in the Dallas Joe. US's already taken because they kept Klay Helton and and maybe maybe the NFL. That's why I asked Lane Kiffin. You think he's coming back and he said yes I think it's probably if he does it's the NFL. Oh I'm guessing but I do think that you know he was probably considered too toxic for USC. And that's probably what that three three or four day holed up was in Sangyo on second thought. Clay helped news our guy yes mclovin. Is that a good fit. The cowboys and Urban Meyer. I I don't see it being a good fit because it Jerry Jones can't help him so they older Jerry gets the longer it is between you know winning a super bowl it. It feels like he wants to try to speed this up. He wants to be more involved like he care so much about the cowboys he you know he he just how I do I make us better and sometimes you make your team better by not being involved being less involved in this. But I can't imagine urban Meyer walking into that a job in going Jerry. You're going to be here all the time I think at some point you want it to be your team and when is the last time we had a coach with the cowboys who probably considered it. His team was that bill parcells in prior to that it was Jimmy Johnson. Jerry Jerry doesn't have a great history with these coaches because I think Jerry probably feels like he knows as much as they do if not more and Urban Meyer coming in and I don't know of urban wants to go back and be in Ohio in coach the Cleveland Browns I i. I don't know what his interest are. I hope his health is first first and foremost to him which it should be. But sometimes these coaches don't see themselves as others see you but I was just told that from a source all right. This team sports history polling nineteen fifty one Joe Dimaggio and that's retirement for Major League Baseball. I played all thirteen years for the Yankees Nineteen eighty-one. Muhammad Ali fought his last fight. His sixty sixty I fight. He lost a trevor. Berbick in nineteen. eighty-five Dan shocker. The single super bowl shuffle released by the Chicago Britain. This team sports history brought to you by continental tire pure contact. LS Is tires new luxury sport performance tire. 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Hour 4: 12/3/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:49 min | 9 months ago

Hour 4: 12/3/19

"They cried passion then. Pageantry of college football leaves here. This is Paul Finebaum show our four podcast cast. Well come back. So what's going on in Arkansas joined be joined by Josh Verte Cini. He's the program Director Ninety two won. The ticket are proud home in North West Arkansas. The number one Sports show out there and clearly it has his pulse on razorbacks for J.. Great to have you on again. It's always a pleasure so help us understand what's going along with his coaching search. What's up? Well it's great to talk to you Paul. I wish I could It's just answer. Whatever questions you have right now I think a lot of the take time to close to something? The hot name at least on social media has been lane. Kiffin your review on that name La City just to get a lot of momentum around here You know in space space for us is somebody got a chance to be a big time coach at a really young age. His father was a coach. She was groomed coats. And when you got to be. The Oakland Raiders set coach thirty two. I think at the time you know twelve years ago. A lot of people thought that she's not what she goes without Davis. Being House Avis. Really Paul the more you think about it I was there pretty groundbreaking moment because Kaieda open the door that Youth Movement in terms of coaching. And we've seen a lot of a thirty year old and Turnley you know early forties top guys get a chance to your maybe. Didn't in the past so I feel like many different guy who perhaps these moments the first time around a little early but here we only years later and obviously the time at USD. And the time with Nick Saban at Alabama. He seems like a different guy right now. He certainly had a pretty impressive run at Florida. Atlantic three years of school that it's not essentially nothing offing. Before he got that job I think differently pippin. WHO's getting a lot of buzz here in Seattle right now so if you could You know you will break it down for us in terms of who you think are the legitimate candidates and ultimately how you see it playing out. Well absolutely I mean. Let's be right back where we were. You know we have. This conversation feels like less than a month ago. When Chad Morris was fired I think the names are names that tend to make sense right stain kind of names we talked about last time. Let's be specific here in our names. Like Mike. No Val names like Matt Campbell. Who got the sunshine? And it was a Mike Leaks at Washington Russian state lane. And if you remember Paul was the main we mentioned in our conversation last month and it hasn't gone away obviously. The Gus Malzahn talk was it was something that was getting some buzzer in here but then he goes out and wins the Iron Bowl. And that's kind of the end of that discussion. Things like Relationship Between Gossiping and I confess continues to be a little star crossed but that name still out there. You know you talk about a name like Chris Peterson at Washington after that surprising announcement yesterday. So you know names like that. Novell Bamboo Peterson. Now's on reach kissing. He's he's names. It stayed pretty steady here over the last few weeks. I don't think we've had kind of changed and by all accounts. Arkansas has tried to that and do we still on all of these names and it sure seems like country. You're in fact. It was not afraid to make plastic. He kinda different higher like made with Eric Musclemen and the basketball program seven months ago which is obviously getting a lot of buzz around here right now with this great start you're sixteen pinpointed. Lane Kiffin as the kind of young up and comer. If you will the next guy who's got the brand who's got the style and got the swagger the Seixas thing back to at least a competitive place ball. We're not talking about winning conference championships as at the University of Arkansas. Right now we're talking about getting the ball game any bowl games. I think tip is the kind of guy who could achieve that okay. Let's I mean there are a lot of names you mentioned and I I don't want to go over every one of them but some I think are not going to Arkansas. Maybe going elsewhere. But I'm most interested in continuing the conversation on Kiffin because I believe Kiffin is looking at the job. I don't know if he's made up his mind yet. He has a gain this week's so he's probably unlikely to spend a lot of time doing anything other than preparing for Saturday but is lane. Kiffin higher -able at Arkansas would be my most important question. Will they hire if he said yes would if he agreed to consider it would they hire him. Why pick you? You Know Lane Kiffin history as well as anybody and I think the answer to that is the else am I pretty. WHO's after questioning Lane Kiffin as a coach coats? I go back to what we started this conversation talking about all. He's a lifer it comes from a coaching family. These past Monica and was it offensive coordinator here in the late seventies fifty years under Lou Hall to have several really good reasons. That don't get talked about a lot. Historically Lane actually for whatever it's worth lived in say fell you know in his early years so back to check and I think he's growing up I think he's a brand i. I think he gets twitter as well as anybody. I mean nothing against somebody like Nick. Sabin Boom Lane. KIFFIN obviously worked for three years by late. Tiffany suggests twitter tweet. He understands the social media angles. He's got a lot to like from an offensive ingenuity standpoint and I think he's done a Florida Atlantic. The last few years has been impressed. That you want eleven games there is I. I never fell off the fried last. But it's also talk to. You just brought up comedy the whole route the situation. Which is the conference championship game to go and play on Saturday? We know folks talk a lot about gays but then you will know Paul Conference Championships. One of the big talking points for coaches when they try to motivate these teams. I think he wants to coach or Atlantic Conference Usa Championship game this weekend. How did you spend a lot of work? The last three years to Rehab is image As a carpetbagger it was a guy even though I think that stuff is unfounded and by nature this profession leads to folks trying to move around for a better opportunity Zunyi. I think he wants to coach Games. I think he will coats that game. I think based on his press conference a few hours ago in Boca Raton. He is not denying the Arkansas Angle. But he's trying to focus the conversation on winning his ten th game of the year there four days and so I feel like Arkansas talk probably as much as I can gather Paul and try to got him as much as I can. They WanNa let him coach that game. I it's a good look both ways that if they can catch that game and for the folks who say that's not even realistic. Well I look no further than Scott stiegler news couple years ago. You can make that what happened. If that's a priority to you. I think lean token for more. We do very well here and I think a lot more smoke. It'll probably ultimately fire. That is suffering clipping off. JV would lane kiffin be the the most sizzle higher that hunter are your check could make. I think you're on the money. I think we work and obviously I respect your soon fall. I think you're right. Subversive you those names off. It's probably not gonNA happen with over guys I mentioned. So what's the point of going back all over the one. They like. He's coming up here. The prising knock Michalik. Mike Lee is a name that seems the have a Lotta currency around here ladies because like we talked about before his profusely to recruiting for the smaller towns like sexist and pullman Washington blends people to believe that he could get recruits to come and play football or Arkansas. This offer some concern about leaks. The answers question about this is all but you also wonder a little bit about the long-term component there. I don't know outlaying kicking right now. But Mike Fifteen years older than lane kiffin and I think Lincoln wants a crack at the big guy and as you well know the SEC. A big time football so really response to that question. Not Campbell was the other name on. What if he would April big money well over many years I didn't Mike Leach is the one other name that's incentive to get bandied about and I think ultimately tipping with Youth I would agree with the twitter profile which keep bringing up here? I think that's the name that has more flashy Stewart right now and even a name like Mike weeks not as your judge your sports talk show host but if if lane kiffin college until it listen. I'm seriously considering this job but I don't like the roster. I don't like the trajectory. I don't WanNa go there and get my head bashed in. What would you say to him? I'd say those they're all real feelings in real thoughts and you're thinking about this job from three hundred sixty degree kind of angle. It's not easy to win here. You No that's all you talk about on your show. Say Nice thing you say respectful fan you understand the razorbacks mean a lot to the three million people in this state like it's it's not easy you've gotta recruit over a large chunk of land. You gotTa keep most of the big recruits in this state and go get some pretty mellow recruits in Texas Louisiana and Mississippi and Tennessee in Missouri. That's difficult there's a lot of ground to cover you've gotta have a really elite good bat in place it's GonNa make this thing work and I think that's one of the reasons. Why again call? I think it would work here. I think. Lane Kiffin an underrated job of cultivating relationships in that coaching fraternity. Got Connections. That I I love new puck names here. But you've got connections to coaches. Who could come in here on day? One and present a pretty interesting not only recruiting kind of staff but also new strategist kind of staff and if some of those names even a couple of those names proved to be invalid. I think a plane ticket walks in on the first day with guys around and you believe in that he thinks are committed to. They're not whatever foreseeable future. Three four five six years of being in Arkansas. I do the job you can do while at so I would tell laying hip in the system. You've got to still set to do it. There's a reason Arkansas once you but how your we hear a lot of talk doc. That William Joyce Boker on. How could you not paul good weather? beat Salani he's a big fisher likes to go out and vote in the open ocean soon. I know you know that stuff's out archetypes great place. I'm not GONNA talk down. There's no fear there's no ocean here. So can you adapt to the coaster enough to get coaching game. Plan that you've got going on operating at a high level I committee tune and you've got the bright staff definitely get it done and get it done here close you well know Rockstar. Red Cedar mistakes for life so the current is when no and. I'm sure you've I've heard he's looked around at a staff and in I don't have any doubt I've heard some of the names as you have. I'm going to discuss them because he's he's still coaching again. But we will stay in touch. This is a very interesting story. J. B. Thanks for sharing you are incredibly valuable insight. We'll talk soon. Thank you great to talk to Josh. BERTA Cini J. O.. J. B. in in the mornings out in northwest Arkansas. The voice there of razorback sports and certainly the most knowledgeable person. It sounds like lane. Kiffin is definitely in play here. We'll take a break more of your phone calls when we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast welcome back. We are glad you're here. And and let's go to Fox in Louisiana Fox. Welcome to our show good afternoon. Thank you Powell. All I'm just in in totally blessed is how we are in Louisiana Will Mayo and I'm telling you that the head with daddy go by cope me up now. That was. That was just an amazing conversation at really well. If you remember Saturday night when they called a timeout and Joe with took these last snap and got that ovation it would just just. I'll never forget that I mean you used to live in Freeport and you know kind of how we are. We don't dynasty read Nick. Everybody now goes to Walmart half I five and say go tires. And it's just amazing. The how star Lil little state with a the best quarterback in the NFL and the best collegiate one. It's we'd really really blessed and I wanted to ask you all about when he took Joe out you've tied for the record. There's a Georgia Georgia game for Joel Stat this year. Yeah I mean listen I think all the Games count the play offs and all I believe so so now again then. We're we're told what we're talking about our season stats. We're not talking about regular season playoffs. I mean it's all encompassing whale if if joe don't break it then we'll probably lose. It looks pretty. I didn't know for regular season was all it was or not that if you ever seen a attain accelerate like this you know I it's one of the great stories of all time we are truly blessed real how happy we are in Louisiana. Well I am thrilled to hear from. You really enjoyed talking to Joe's dad tonight right. Tony is in Georgia pain. You are next up. Hey Tony Hey what's going on. How are you feeling but I feel great? Thank thank you my good well. I don't WANNA go crawl fish only but I was going to talk about clamps and and joining the SEC. If they want to you know because they're going to roll it was but then all your callers jumped on them like on the June pocono say no. Maybe I'll change stream of Paul allow me to. I'm paying I mean. Immediately I called and Got Put on hold and mandate jumped on him and and basically committing what. I was trying to say anyway. I mean does I mean. Sec Navy's expand and Clemson needs to be invited and we'll see how rose from so you think Totally agree with you on that Tony thanks for sharing that. Yep Real quick ball a few several weeks back South Carolina beat Georgia and And and you know and everybody was down on them and you guys and the fact they were like Paul is Georgia done. And you were like no Not GonNa Ready to say that you said because of Kirby smart and And then every week I watch you know when we played Florida they were talking about well. You Know Kurt herbstreet well Florida's the best one loss team. There's more Georgia do. And then I'll burn and on and on and on and I guess I'm trying to say is don't count us out Paul. Don't count and say listen. I I definitely believe I believe allegiance Kirby Because I I know him well and having to think he's a fantastic coach. I'm just the my only concern And it's a legitimate one and you would probably share it is just is the personnel. I think I think George has always capable. I just don't know how diminish that That awesome firepower is right. Now you know. And that's the same thing I feel. If if Kirby was had a little smokescreen screen going and cager come rolling out after you know and Own and and the kid gets You know taken out of the tag game aim for being dumb and then I'm like that but I I look at my wife and I went to the Rose Bowl and and it's just it was there's just a remarkable trip and Baker Mayfield. He was hot and I and and I got nothing against the quarterback at Lsu. He's phenomenal. He's having a great year ear. But I mean I'm just saying We got the best defense out. There they got the best offense. You should be a lot of fun. I'm hoping so. I'm hoping we'll great to to hear from you. Tony Thank you very very much. Let's go to bobby in Louisiana. Hello Bobby how you doing Paul I just wanted to I thank you for taking my call. Sure I wanted to bring up. Something about the Playoff Committee I've I've listened to WHO Almond. They say they take into consideration Injuries that you have been here as far as LSU goes You know I don't know. Oh how many Teams especially defensive. Teams have lost their to Defensive Tackles the second game of the season and They didn't make their way back until probably allburn they they played sporadically because they wouldn't shake when they play when we played Auburn. But we also had some other defense people they'll Fulton divinity. No you're right and you know that it Consi- they're supposed to take these Andrew giving consideration and talking about the body of work. Well you take those defensive players off of any team Anywhere and you might not have the best defensive stats but then you put them all together for your last game and you get a fifty to seven games so I just thought I'd bring that up and I heard Coach Oh talk about Aranda. And that was the best we've seen. And if that defends shows up against Georgia we know what's going to happen and I think that's been the missing ingredient all year long is stout Lsu defense because we know the offense has been in outer space great great h have you on. We're heading to a break. We still have about thirty five minutes to go on what has been pretty interesting. They hope you heard the beginning show with Stephen. A Smith never never disappoints. Tonight was just amazing and so many other great guests including Joe Boroughs Dad. We will continue with your phone calls after this strong. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We're glad you're here and again. We'll we've talked talked enough about the Kiffin situation but I think it's real lot of names out there. He is considering Trying to get there whether it's just a matter whether lane wants a job or not not grab some more phone calls here and Rick is in South Carolina. Hello Rick Hey Paul. Hey I just want to remind the Clemson callers and the gentleman who thinks Clemson had run to the east. The last time clam and his son showed up in Athens. They take a forty five. The twenty one beat down and I was witnessing and then I got a playoff there for you that you really charged a little bit. So let's say Ohio State Wins Clips and Wins Baylor Beats Oklahoma Oregon Beach Utah and Uga loses back. Ah Feel so that leaves Baylor they only one loss but they would only have one win against a ranked opponent that would be in that championship. Raping Ship Game Oklahoma the thing you got the bulldogs beating what. AB ranking is number. Seven Florida Eleven Auburn which had the wins over Oregon and Alabama at number fourteen Notre Dame. Just curious what your thoughts on that kind of scenario down as you listen I. I don't think they were getting no matter what. I just think that they would get edged out. Rick I I know you can go to the seventh and eighth possibility things. There's a little bit ridiculous. I think ultimately going to come down to Utah or Oklahoma which to me is not a great great choice. Because I don't think either. No one has any chance against the other three. Thank you very very much. John is up next. Hey John Hey John before the far right yes I'm thank you okay. Yeah I was calling in ever since the Alabama game You know that the runoff on the time the where they ran the ball down Why don't they go ahead and make these The college teams. Do you like the pros. You know there's no stopping the clock to move the chains Two feet inbounds. I mean you're prepping these. These people both the athletes for the pros. Joe Girardi I. I appreciate your question. I'm not sure I'm really influential with the NCAA tournament change in college football rule but but I think it makes sense. I mean I mean I don't know this discussion that maybe you know we start talking about it. Maybe maybe they'll do something with it. Well I I a next time I get a coach on. WHO's on the rules committee? I will put it Q.. Him Thank you for the call. I do appreciate it. Easy is in Mississippi Hilo easy. Hey Paul how you doing. I'm doing great. Thank you for the call line. Don't bother you all understand. That Samson is to national champion the on the Fan Eight and one twenty five. I believe a straight games. He'll we they allitt. Yeah I'm probably. I tried my best to keep up with college football. I don't you know much about it. It just seemed to me you you you Don't realize that and They all all the national championship if somebody else win and And they really help Coffins there in in who they play but he still. They don't play nobody but they win the national championship. They went in there smoked up to you but they don't play no matter you say they don't play nobody but they win the championship and Devo Sweeney. He He. He talked and talked with him. I believe he's a fantastic man man. He talked to you him all the time and and and being being Nick Sabin Seventy WanNA say talk about all of this teammate. I didn't play so far. He must have got about an issue then lose. Thanks easy appreciate that very much. Jack is is in North Carolina. Hello Jack Yeah Paul. I was wondering which conference championship gain. Intrigues you most probably the either the PAC twelve or the big twelve. I mean really. The other three don't mean mean very much to me at all. And I'm not I'm not being disparaging about the SEC. Game but I think the fact that Lsu does not have to win the game takes a little bit of the the edge off and it's all about. It's all bad Georgia to me. What do you think happens? If Ohio state slips up nothing I think wow stay will still be in the playoffs. It depends on. I don't I don't think they'd fall beyond the third position because allow stay with one. Loss is still better than the number four tame I mean tell me a good number four team unless Georgia Beats Lsu. Do you think if that happens George bust up to second and LSU drops the fourth okay. Let's say that's the only upset. Ohio State Wins Clemson wins and obviously Georgia Georgia wins so Georgia would I think it depends there couple of interesting things about that if Lsu well hold on I was about to say if if Lsu and Georgia were to play it depends on where the rankings are. Because I mean the only way it would be an issue Georgia and Lsu were second and third which I. I cannot imagine that happening than that game probably would not be in Atlanta. Because you can't have a lower seed was a geographical. Yeah graphical advantage but if if you move Lsu to fourth in Georgia three then you'd have LSU play obviously Ohio state and Georgia when play Clemson. which would be Pretty intriguing game now last question Paul. I've heard rumor that if Oklahoma makes sit through they possibly can take the fourth spot. Why do they take precedence over Baylor if they win that game you saying of Oklahoma Taylor? Yeah Baylor wins. Why would they not take the fourth spot? You're saying well why wouldn't Baylor bears. Non Conference schedule is really weak. Can I think that's where that's what's hurting them. So they beat Oklahoma. Then I think the game moves out west. Listen we're we're an hour. We're we're not an hour. We're thirty minutes away from finding out. This is not the most exciting college football revealed but really I think Utah I think Utah. We'll be ahead of Oklahoma mature but whatever happens tonight is not going to really matter very much. It doesn't matter where Georgia is It it really doesn't matter I think. LSU will stay the same but LSU could trump Ohio state with a win because they would have a better victory. Thank you for the call really do appreciate appreciate it. Let's check out Jeff in Oakland Hella. Jeff Paul so thanks for rerunning the piece from this morning You're semi debate with or Danilov Ski I just wanted to kind of comment kind of if I could drop into that conversation. Say Nick Nick Sabin is not going to roll back the same same squad the same coaching squad For next year and I think from the comments admits that he made kind of impress both after the Clemson game and come pretty much the season including the LSU game He wants to get back to playing kind of Nick. Sabin defense and I think that that's I think in his He's GonNa WanNa bring somebody on on-board kind of call them Co Defensive Coordinator But somebody who's directly from his tree. Who He who has worked for him Kim before and as a proven quantity and the two first two names? That kind of come to my mind if I'm looking at is number one. Somebody who I think's in trouble As a head coach is Mark Dantonio and the second name is GonNa Shuman Out of Georgia's linebacker coach gone out there but his WHO's a Bama player from Obama player and has has coached four nick and then if not somebody from the directory possibly one of the Rehab candidates? You know somebody who's both been kinda failed head coaches but we're successful at defensive on the defensive side and you know I give you a list of four which would be Stephen Dodd who just got candidate B. C.. Willie taggart successful as a recruiter. But Not really the head coach Randy Shannon. Who was you know successful as a recruiter and defensive coach but not a head coach? Chris Chris Ash all four of them are both routers first of all. Let me let me jump in quickly before we have to Dantonio is not. I'm not it's your what his status is right now but I cannot imagine him leaving Michigan State and coming down and working with nick but maybe as a consultant. I hate to run. You brought up some very good names. I agree with you Savin. We'll wait because of the trickle. Down has not occurred yet. Their awesome very iffy coaches out there. That may or may not be fired. This weekend is going to solve some of those issues. Where if it gets a break we still have a couple of minutes to go Tuesday afternoon? Regions wants to know what the financial tip you give. Your younger self aren't cheap cheap. So you've tattoos aren't good. There's no one way to manage your money. There's only your way and regions award-winning service. Makes it easy to handle your money. According to your own unique priorities all with the kind trying to financial clarity your younger self could only dream of Solta money actually. It's pretty cool. Because some things are bigger than banking switch for good at redes- dot com flash bigger than banking regions official Bank of the SEC member FDIC. Welcome back a couple of minutes to go. And I'm an on this good evening. Good afternoon Paul Finebaum in New York City I like say Net New York New York. It sounds so nice I gotta say hey it twice New York New York. That's Johnny Winterton. You Know Paul did let let me take a moment to bring the nation in on this. 'cause there's a lot of New People to your program they see you on. TV another fascinated by although you've been fascinating for twenty years you know people. This is what happens happens when you depend on the Alabama fans to come in and talk about football when they get beat they don't show Oh and this euro. Witnessing right live to a day Tuesday no no no playoff conversation. Didn't make make no statement over the weekend and their fans aint talking at all. I mean given the goddess Kim Same Old Lang. KISS HIM ON. Wang's excuse Zimba hold rings those marriages people so damn ring off the branch in less than two years. Them's old rings and rings don't Care No more more than the value of them. Rings has depreciated to nothing. You can get them on Ebay and Paul. This is a new conversation. We're GONNA have this strength strength record. I've been talking sports with you for twenty years and this strength the record conversation just came up this year. And can you imagine interviewing the God. Does that what do you do. Well I'm the strength of record analyst. Well what exactly you do well. I realize teams that you're supposed to be please limit how out of and see this done right. I mean you're spoke to beat them teams. You know what I mean. There's a category and a desk in a pay check for that. Hell sign me up now. I won't that job. I'm better than anybody I won't that drop off on bomb you can. I can do it. Scrape the record competition. The level of competition don't count. You Ain't gotTA play nobody. They beat them well they they beat them as good as they did. The last team that sucked. I want that job flying bombs war. Damn Eagles have a good day. Thank you great great to have you on the show. We wonder we're the Alabama fans especially the runs are especially the ones that run their mouth incessantly. We're talking one. We don't like we don't like them kind of people fall but you know what I'm saying. Hey you know it might good point. He probably all be done by rings off. We Bake because over Jerry got none and they wouldn't know what to do with the maniac. They had a ring but I were here. I mean Joe Joe. You'RE GONNA same game you did. And you know bad. Blame will if we correct just a one mistake we've made over and we beat. LSU Jo say Alabama. Joe The time to correct the mistakes is before the game enduring the game and the last time I saw Alabama make a play in that game they would they looked like the keystone cops with twelve men on the field. Don't tell me about correcting mistakes. Okay Finebaum your you are you why are you. Why are you asking me? I mean I mean insight out the truth we talked to you. Let's talk to one more Alabama Fan. Mr Kissed the Rings Legend is next. Yeah we gotta be The haters haters celebrating. Hey Hey hey but hey the celebrating. Its yellow data. Hey celebrate I don't mind palm. They don't I'll have to kiss the rings. I got something else. They can kiss though. I mean Alabama. All they want go out and get you five championship in twelve years later. That's what you do. Yeah little brother. Beat US Gogol's miles on another seven years and forty nine million morons. That's the GO-TO I mean. Anybody new football this year anyway off our defense I roll with it allows I could ride with but hey we ride together. We win together. We lose together. We still frigging Alabama. We still the conversation at the end of the day. Let's see how good I'm play. I also now Paul. We're good rate now without Alabama Utah. Let's let's see how that works for College Football. You know what the King Up. Then they're letting the haters hate Paul at the end of the day they don't have as many rings as Go Out and win you want what do you want. LSU Clemson auto state or better than you. Don't win nothing at the end of the day. What did you win an Auburn? So let's you still three dollars team. You still in Alabama. You don't have the kids to rain. All you haters can give something else legend out the new narrative. Hey guys let me go back to the studio. I mean that was quite a double double. We'll dip their of Alabama fans. Yeah Tall Says James with a minute to go in the show and they know when the show ends to is that that might have been intentional without the time of those calls. Yeah it was good you know because you get out there and you kind of say. Oh Yeah I mean politics. It sounded to me like go in one. We've got five in twelve years. Didn't look to the future at all. I remember we'll be back next year. I remember when I was five nine. Thirteen five and fourteen. Oh yeah this century yeah. That's great. That's a great part about big Alabama fan of this. You talk about the one you used to win or you can make some. I'm up just add one of your total either regardless eighteen nineteen twenty sounds bet- Twenty by twenty. Sounds better. It's a nice round the number off anyway. we certainly ended on a bang Roll Tide Dang. Anyway thanks for the show. We'll see you again tomorrow. We will review view and regurgitate. What happens coming up here at a couple of minutes with the college football rankings? Have a great evening.

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Historic Playoff Field. Heisman Runaway. Kiffin to Ole Miss. Mailbag!

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Historic Playoff Field. Heisman Runaway. Kiffin to Ole Miss. Mailbag!

"EH wealth. The audible presented by trader. Joe's I'm Stewart Mandel joined as always by Bruce Feldman Bruce. We spent months debating worrying who the final four. We're going to be and then of course everything broke right. The committee had it easy no controversy this year. Other than maybe if you disagree with who they had number one versus number due to LSU Versus Oklahoma in the Peach Bowl Ohio state versus Clemson in the Fiesta Bowl. I'm excited I I really. Am I I. I think this is the most compelling set a semi-final since the first year when first of all we were all curious to see what this would look like but it was also marcus. Mariota versus Winston James Winston saving versus Urban Meyer. Now obviously I think were more intrigued by clumps in Ohio state. Eight Oklahoma LSU Is I think at eleven point spread. But you're there for the LSU Georgia game which turned out to be. I think Well you tell me and we went into a sang it can is this. Is this Georgia defense. The ones go slow down. Lsu and then they burrow went and did what he always does like. What was it like to see in person? Yes I spent the last week around. LSU Not long after tape. The podcast I flew to Baton Baton Rouge in spent spent a few days there and then flew up to Atlanta. They flew up on on Thursday and flew up shortly thereafter and so it was in a lot of their meetings and it's an interesting mix because as a team that is totally locked in yet they're pretty loose and I really think what it comes back to is This this is really confident team. And it certainly helps because they have Jonesboro. Who's playing better than any quarterback in college football right now Any we we talked about this what I'm about to say in about a month ago now and it was after they had a really bad half against Ole miss on the road and give up a lot of rushing yards Their defense is not a great defense. But it's definitely better than I think people were making it out to be What happened was grant? Delta was playing with the high ankle sprain and I think they had some other guys who were banged up and they were coming off the Alabama we can. I think there's probably a little bit of hangover for some of the some of the guys on their eighteen but no one's ever gotten close to them really this year. I mean being at that game And I'M GONNA have a story about my week week there and they're kind of a countdown to this game on the athletic probably later in the week and I think there'll be some interesting stuff and I don't want to give away some of that here but like I might pick was that it was going to be within the spread and by the time we got to Saturday morning. I would like the spread. Could be two touchdowns here. I don't think Georgia can stay with this team and had nothing to do with what Georgia's offense was going to be like. It was GONNA be like I'm actually surprised. LSU Didn't score in the forty s and they probably could have if they didn't slow down also terrorists Marshall dropped what would have been a seventy yard touchdown pass. I mean the level. Joe Borough is operating. This offense is really remarkable and I just think that it's not just him mean Clyde Edwards. Allaire is a really big problem for for Defense France's because he's so good out of the backfield and their receivers are really really good. Just I think it's just the confidence in this is team right now. I came away thinking that this is this is the. This is the best seen this year and I saw Ohio state play Nice. I saw estate plan of Friday night against a really horrible northwestern team. But just I. It feels almost like a pro team. And how they're operating right now now and they're big and physical on the defensive line I think they completely dominated what was arguably one of the three best defenses in college football and Georgia did Naveh chance I mean it was it was something to see from field level and it was just like they could pretty much name. The score they WANNA put on the scoreboard board. which is remarkable given? Like you said Georgia had a great defense. All Season Brody Miller are excellent. LSU writer his story from the game focused on how pretty much every week they would prepare for the defense they were going to see on tape and then the defense would come out and do something. They haven't haven't they never did before. Like Georgia fall. Success this year did not think it could defend Lsu with its regular scheme so Kirby smart chose to not pressure borough as much. Drop more guys in the cupboard new so all that meant was he would have more time to figure out he was gonNA throw to and of course course he had that you know. I think we'll end up. Being the first highlight on every heisman. Real where he escaped like Houdini waited for Jefferson to get open. He said after the game now supposed to be a short hitch route but when he had to scramble Jefferson just took off and and borough knew where he was going to be and They're Georgia had no the answers now. Georgia's offenses is pitiful when they weren't able to keep up In that game because of that Do you think so. We put up our HEISMAN I. I'm rocketing heisman race because we know people don't care but he heisman Straw poll fifty one voters. He got every single. First Place vote. I I think it's possible. He will break that record although our producer John Hayes and I are looking into this before we came on the podcast and Oj Simpson currently holds the record with eight hundred fifty five first place votes and that was when there are a lot more voters he might get the percentage but not the votes right. The percentages held by Troy you can't remember the last. I know I pause. WHO's Troy Woods? And why is he coming to my choice Smith and it was at ninety one enchaine. Yep possible points. I think he is going to break that. And I don't I actually think if you don't in have Joe Borough on your top three. You shouldn't have a vote. I mean that's it's one thing if you like. Oh you know what I'm GonNa put you. Derrick Brown the Great Auburn Defensive Line and make a statement they are. Or you're GonNa put Jonathan Taylor because you've been around Wisconsin Where you think you think chase young is that guy and you put them on there? But if you don't have job or on your top three you really shouldn't be voting. Well Yeah I mean. I think you'll be everybody's topped three. But I do think that yes regionalized. There'll be people in Oklahoma who vote for jalen hurts. There will be people in Ohio who vote for Justin Fields. So it's not a given that everybody's GonNa write him first place what I was GONNA ask. Is We talk a lot. About the most dominant quarterbacks most dominant seasons Cam Newton comes to mind signed. I think it's really hard to compare a passing quarterback straight up passing quarterback with some of those three guys but I would make the case that just pure passing. This is the greatest passing season. A quarterback has ever had forty seven hundred fifteen yards forty eight touchdowns six interceptions and most notably ably. He's on pace to break the all time. Completion percentage record for a season. Seventy seven point nine percent. He's lowest completion percentage in a game this year lowest. I was seventy one point one and it's not like he's this is a bubble screen offense. This is an attack you downfield offense and he still going to break that record that to me is the most remarkable thing of all by the way You know just as a pure passer one thing that people should realize that they don't already now joe borough or really good athlete and he's really dangerous in the run game. It's not just him. Buying time like they do a bunch of stuff then withdraws and different things so the the aspect he brings with his legs. I think makes him a lot different than some other guys like. Oh He's a you know we're seeing Adam as like he's LSU's version of Tom Brady or peyton manning. I mean there's a lot more they do with him because he's so athletic and I just don't think people probably have given them enough credit. But that's a problem for defenses and we saw early on before. Lsu blew the game open. He he really did some big damage on them with some. You know ten then. Twelve fourteen yard runs. I feel bad for Oklahoma because they finally have a defense. I mean by the end of the you know they other than to who long plays in the fourth quarter by that freshman quarterback for Baylor where I don't know what happened but coverage breakdowns. Whatever they actually had a phenomenal nominal defensive game in that game and in the end this defense that was ranked in the one hundred last year is now twenty six and I don't give them any chance to slow down borough burrowing unless borough eats too much on the awards banquet this week and comes in Com shows up for that game really slow and out of shape I just and it's nothing against Oklahoma. I just don't think anybody but Ohio saying Clemson. Who Have you know phenomenal? Defenses full of athletes can't hold hold up and it's not like they have more you know decidedly more phenomenal athletes on defense in Georgia. It's just that those teams also have an offense that can keep up by by the way. This was not a good year for the people who want to argue for an eight team playoff because when the committee final rankings came out Georgia was still number number five like that. Was the closest team Georgia. They by the end of the year they could barely complete a forward pass and so No thank you. I don't need to see that team in a playoff I was at the PAC twelve title game which now feels like feels like it happened a month ago a month ago when it feels like we went into a kind of excited like this game finally has playoff implications and then I don't know first quarter sometime in the first quarter early second quarter. You realize this is not going to be. Utah's Knight and the pack twelve is not going to go to the playoff Give credit to Oregon. They they I feel like they save their their best last game of the year. One of their best games of the year for the For the PAC twelve championship game. Cj Verdel went wild over two hundred yards against Utah. Defense that came in giving giving up fifty fifty three or fifty four rushing yards per game. He had more than that on one. Carry so this caused a Lotta after through the game. A Lotta yet another year of the pack twelve. Try and figure out. Why can't we get a team in a playoff? I mean it's kind of sad really. They've had the playoff for six years. Now they've been in it twice. I really feel like it gets to the end of the season. And it's like it's like the rest of the country is going to a big party and the west coast isn't invited What do you think about the the theory that was being thrown out there that will if they if Oregon scheduled you know South team instead of instead of Auburn and Ben Twelve and one right now said eleven to that they'd be in the playoff. You know I mean why them I mean they look if you would. You have said the same thing. LSU didn't need to go to taxes they could have scheduled Texas state mean. What are we doing here I get at? LSU Is in is in the SEC where you play Eight Conference Games in PAC twelve plays nine but i. I don't think he can look back at that way way. I mean to me organs in the playoff if they handle their business against Arizona state they didn't. I mean it's hard hard to go through schedule undefeated undefeated. It's almost as hard to go through where you only don't have your game one or two weeks. You still got to find a way to win. They didn't I mean I think Oregon. Dan is the most talented team in the conference right now. But they stumbled a couple times and they sputtered and that's on them to the play better. I mean the idea of saying well. Oh you didn't schedule that I mean they were. They were handling Auburn pretty well in the first half and then they just kind of like they ran out of gas. I think I think that there is something to the fact that there's no question. The PAC twelve with makes it harder on themselves by playing Non Conference Games Anna Conference title game and their teams games usually schedule pretty well out of conference but I would just say that the best thing they could do it again. The playoff is better teams. I it just whether Oregon Played Auburn Auburn or not. They are not on the same level as certainly those top three I don't know they would've won an argument against Oklahoma. Even if they do because frankly at that case if they played three nobody's they would probably have Baylor's resume they would. They would have been they would they would not have gone into it. Feeling started probably would finish number five number six wchs they just need to produce better teams. They spent a while. Now now people have short memories. You know what just just a nit-pick a littlest. I'm actually surprised. They didn't didn't finish five for whatever it's worth. I agree. I mean the last thing we saw them was them was them whipping a good Utah team the last thing. We saw Georgia who by the way a loss to a terrible South Carolina team was getting blown out of basically their own building. I mean that that that Mercedes Benz was about seventy five percent Georgia fans ends and it was almost all those people almost left by the end of the third quarter. So how they I mean again. This really doesn't matter. I guess WHO's fifth and sixth but That surprise me. That Oregon wasn't there I get it. They lost Arizona State. They had two losses. But in retrospect I mean I don't I don't know remember remember. The number two five team also lost to a foreign team so I agree with that. I think what was interesting for for listening to rob mullins comments comments when people would ask him about various teams. They pretty leading into that week. They were. They were pumping up Utah. Even though Utah had no top twenty five wins. They they up until the Iron Bowl. They were pumping Alabama. Even though they had no top twenty five wins but once it came down to the final rankings they pretty much went pretty stuck pretty rigidly to you. How many top twenty five did you be in Georgia? Be Three of them That's why Wisconsin still ahead of Penn state. They pretty much went in order of who who had the best wins are the most Goodwin's because let's be honest Alabama. Say what you want their schedule. Do you think there are twelve teams in college. Football better than Alabama this year. Probably not I don't think it's a slam dunk. Still I really don't I I think that I I would take them over several teams above them. But I can't justify based on resume so they They stuck pretty rigidly really so at the end of the day you know. I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other weather. LSU Ohio state should have been number one but it certainly matters you know. This is the difference between L. She gets to play Oklahoma instead of Clemson. Ohio state has to play Clemson and I. I made a joke on twitter. That for for all this consternation everybody's trying to avoid the three seed. Maybe the three seats should be the one seed. Are you surprised at all the clumps in is actually the vegas favorite against Ohio Ohio State. Now I'm not actually Clemson proven at this point on a big stage. I think that definitely counts for something and look. I think last week was the first time I think people looked at Ohio state and seeing them a little little vulnerable quite honestly when you looked in so they were down. Twenty one to seven seven against Wisconsin that they battled back. But if you look at Wisconsin they were just sputtering all over. The place couldn't complete a pass and credit to credit to Ohio state for for rallying. But there's a little bit like the scene from Predator where you see some blood. I mean people are starting to come out of this might be one of the greatest the greatest Ohio state team. That's ever been assembled and there's a long way to go from there so it's not surprised it's not a surprise to me. I mean I think it feels like it's a toss up game but if you were asking me and we have plenty of time to get into this. Who are you GONNA pick in that game? No you can't put me on spa that just yet okay. Got Three still got time to figure that out. But the fact it's a toss up You know it's it's it's you. Can you can complain. All you want about Clemson schedule and how easy it was they still absolutely dominated dominate everybody. They played Virginia was the first team. They won that game. Sixty two to seventeen and as our Writer Andy Bitter pointed out Virginia Virginia. It's almost like they got a moral victory. They became the first team all season to to gain three hundred yards. Not Four hundred five hundred three hundred yards on Clemson now. I think the notion is that they don't have that Four NFL guys defensive line that they had last year and that maybe be they if they actually face a team that can match them up front lateral state you would think can that they get exposed a little bit but I don't know I'm I'm not ready to dismiss by any means. Isaiah Simmons that secondary but also just if you wash the ACC game. It was a long time ago. Everybody's worried about what's wrong with Trevor Lawrence throwing these interceptions. Yeah he is right back to being. The guy that finds Justin Ross finds t Higgins and oh by the way they also Travis T. N.. Just a incredibly rare year to have. I think if any of these any other season if I if you only had one of these teams teams it would be getting the the almost annual. Is this the greatest team of all time discussion. But you're not getting that because there's three of them. Well this is GonNa be fun. Plus you have the Jalen hurts. Factor on top of that go into his fourth the playoff which is amazing. And he's three zero against Lsu the much different LSU and. This is a much different team he's with. I was thinking about how Leona pairing got announced how One of the first kind of breakout jalen hurts moments. This was his freshman year at Lsu Alabama game. There was nothing nothing going into the fourth quarter. And he broke a long touchdown run and here. He is a senior now two different school in a completely different offense playing. Lsu again who Lsu has completely different office this game will not be tend to nothing. What else is GonNa be really fun by the way Lane Kiffin at Oxford Mississippi Lane Kiffin in the back in the SEC as he said on ESPN he Put the cover on the boat down there in Boca And OFF TO OXFORD. Where did you see the video of He's getting off the plane. A guy had them take a picture with his baby and then does he handed the baby back. The guy goes by the way. Make sure you get a burner phone d'alene flying like that or not. He did not like data. What do you think I gotta say. I made a comment a week ago about the three. Se Jobs that came open. I thought Oh miss might be seen as the least appealing but they ended up getting the biggest name coach by far of three. How are you feeling about the his lane? KIFFIN GONNA lead the rebels glory. I think it is very good for us in the media. I think it is Very good for almost fans because he will bring a ton of energy and enthusiasm which is already done. I think it's a little bit. Serve a nervous for Greg Sankey though Just because I'm not saying lane is GONNA do anything really really bad. That's GonNa going to force a coaching change. I just think lane needles people a lot and he you know he found a way to do it and maybe he said you know it's like to bring visibility to fau which was off the radar but now he's definitely on the radar. He's in the middle of the party. You know he's going to be in those. SEC meetings and you know there are some times lane just can't help himself with with sand stuff that gets under people's skin. I mean there's going to be so much more visibility on him and there's going to be more visibility ability where he goes out what he does everything so it's not going to be boring You know my read on the situation was once. They realized they could not get Mike novell. All in that was from everything I've heard was sewn up towards FSU earlier in the week. I think if you're lane kiffin you look and say all right. I think I can get Arkansas. And here's Ole Miss. Who has who do? I have a better chance to get closer to winning. Seven or eight games at and it's all mess. I mean all MRS is nowhere near as bad right right now is Arkansas is so I don't know how do you think this ends. I give me a prediction three years from now. What do you think people are saying about this lane? kiffin hired illness I think it'll be one of two things either. He will have gotten them back to being one. You know he mentioned on on Reese Davis Davis interviewed him during the playoffs during that interminable playoff show where you have to wait two and a half hours from unauthorised of the bowls and he asked him all the right questions and he asked him Wyoming. Wyoming's because you know he's up for Arkansas's well and he said because when I was Alabama we lost twice. I've seen what they're capable so you in three years. Either either he will have them doing kind of what he was doing there and making it difficult for teams at the top of the division Orrell. He'll been fired for some massive scandal. Like it's it's going to be one of the two and and I don't know that one is more or less likely than the other recessed and like what's different since Samir earlier stints He said Maturity more mature more experienced but does more mature more experienced to me. That just means he's not going to publicly accuse a reminder of cheating this is a guy who only I don't know month month and a half ago didn't like the calls that went against him in a game and conference. USA and put up a a Gif of blind referees on twitter unclearly of course got fined by his By his conference more mature as a relative. aww term there okay so any thoughts on any of the other hires that happened this weekend. rough weakened by the way for Kirby smart all around not only that his team get whooped back. LSU basically in their own backyard then he loses top assistant. Sam Pittman one of the best old line coach in the country. He is headed to get the Arkansas Job Ebb. Any thoughts on that one. 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My I thought is the my main takeaway from the coaching carousel. This week we're GonNa have you answer the coaching carousel questions. Because I was needs even trying to figure out I spent the we can try figure out. Who's playing in the Birmingham Bowl? And where should I rank that bowl relative to the Camelia Bowl in my bowl rankings column. I'm the bowl guy. You're the coaching carousel. Tarasov Guy. I think we can agree on that right But I just had one observation. I WANNA throw out there because of the I was always a proponent of the early signing period I think there needs. It'd be one but as you know. There's always unintended consequences with this stuff. And I think it's unfortunate that I mean it turned out that Mike Morell interviewed for the floor state job during their bye week. Click a month earlier I think it's unfortunate. That Guy is coaching his team in the Conference Championship game and Florida State's announcing the press conference Lane Kiffin coaching his team in the Conference Championship game. In Ole miss is sending out thinly-veiled tweets about the fact that the lane train is coming to us us I think it's really unfortunate. That the the rush to get these guys in place because early signing period is basically You know making it harder for for. It's taking some of the enjoyment of way. I mean this is a huge deal for Memphis football program at ten years ago. Tommy West basically declared dead is going to a near six a really big deal and during the game. It's a you know. It's the story is already about his next job when you think about It's it is unfortunate. Look I think when it came to the MIC norval. FSU higher as well as Lane Kiffin at At Ole all miss it Mike Novell I think a lot of folks who cover Cover coaching news. Had a pretty good handle on that likes forty forty eight hours before that it was cutting out. It was almost like okay. He wants to be the first person to say more than has you know it's like us those whoa did you. Ms Around the draft Florida state has zeroed in his locked in is a top target. You know all those kinds of things that we ended up doing where it's like unless this thing falls through he's going WanNa be the guy Lane similar and I think what happens is when one another searching searches going on and that guy who is the top targeted argued going something else. You kind of see where the dominoes are going. And I just think that's a reality of where we're at. I mean one thing that struck me Sunday night with the Sam Pittman thing because from what I had heard Arkansas really liked. Eli Drink wits. Who went twelve and one in his first year at APPs state but when he looked at Arkansas saw was more tempted by Ole miss than all of a sudden the Arkansas search started to go on a couple of different directions? They ended up with Sam Pittman. And I. I really think that I don't know this for sure but I mean if if the Arkansas Stars I think that had a a lot to do with what's happened at Lsu right now. I think people look and maybe even lane Kiffin to some degree. I think the people who are making decisions because everything is a copycat cat world and football. I'm not sure Arkansas is going to hire really. A guy is good. Old Line coaches. He's been and as well respected in the business. He's never been coordinators. Never been like like a guy who people normally think of as a you know. He's in his late fifties. Like does Ron and I think they say you know what the players are GonNa play hard for him. Let's take a chance on this. I I think if you're looking at some of these schools higher guys who may have struggled the first time and lane certainly one of them guys can evolve. And now we're going to give him a chance even though no we didn't like what we saw five years ago and I think a lot of that has to do with what's gone on and Lsu in the last couple of years but especially this year. Well Nope I do think that you know I. I have doubts about Sam Pittman. Not that I I'm not gonNA rule him out by any means means but it just seemed like that search got pretty desperate. They weren't able to get the kind of guys they wanted Drink a wits. Missouri is is an an interesting one because he just comes from such different path. You know I was joking with Andy Staples that once lane kiffin and San Pittman got hired. It's getting the point where every every almost every coaching SEC. Either a Sabin descendant or now in the case of Sam Pittman a descendant of saving descendant but Ally drink quist doesn't have any of those ties now he's ties to Maoz on but you know not not saving But you know it's just there the coaching situation. That's just messed up. Is the best way to put it these schools pay these exorbitant amounts of money to buy out the coach. This that's part one now. You have a huge decision to make. This is GonNa Affect Years of your program down the Road Pot Ito next year in a spend God knows how much money on them. And it's just this frantic chase like we gotta have by early signing period guy if somebody very early signing period and I don't know that they think through all the way all this guy turned down right onto the next one And you end up making some bad hires that way maybe You know maybe maybe Sam Pittman will prove me wrong and be the savior of Arkansas football but like it just feels like hey maybe pump the brakes and really think about this. Because there's a lot of guys out there a lot of guys out there that'd be a really good head coach if you took the time to kind of cast a wider net and towards that end just to follow up on my point on Friday. I was told by somebody that billy napier who is a really good first couple of years at Louisiana was the rare exception or I guess the exception the Who who wasn't engaging in any dialogue for the people who had some interest in him and when I say that in not just not even going to interview a lot of times guys who don't don't really have dialogue will at least talk for a little bit over the phone wouldn't do any of that Ryan heart tonight so yeah and and I don't know if it's a case of Brian Hartson didn't even have any interest in the places that interest him? I don't know the specifics on that part of it but yeah I mean we'd reported on both of those this week for the athletic that neither one of those guys really engaging put everything I had heard from from From search people about what was going on with Apia wasn't even like it like even having a acknowledging it was almost like you know bleep you. I'm not I'm not gonNA coach the team and that's it. You WanNa talk to me. You can talk to me after Saturday so before we head off. Let's go the mailbag as always you can send your questions to the audible pod gmail.com this first one is from Greg sealed in Brooklyn so Greg Seelig is a dallas. Alice Cowboys Fan. Trying to think about who next coach will be the last time they had a major success with a brash. Commanding leader from the college ranks. Miss you. Jj The thinking through the options. I landed on coach. Oh at LSU would he be interested in leaving his dream job to try to restore the cowboys to Super Bowl. Glory Laurie. I'm GONNA say no. I think this is the dream job that he has I don't see him having any interest in the cowboys at all they just I don't think that's on his radar. Any other current college coaches you think might end up as the head coach of the now. I think we talked about this on the podcast. I think we talked about somewhere. Daniel Jeremiah Longtime NFL Scou- now works for the NFL network. Their their draft expert probably the best in the business of what he does he had said. He said he had a prediction that Dan Mullen would be the guy. Jerry Jones would zero in on Obviously he coached AC Prescott and helped really tournament to what he has become in the NFL. in what what the suit talking to. NFL People they think Jerry Jones is. Ego is sizable enough. where it's like? Would he really want somebody else. Who would kind of rival him? And that's ultimately what costs the Jimmy Jerry relationship whatever. It was twenty five years ago. Oh south so I don't know I mean. I have no idea if Dan Mullen has any interesting coach in the NFL. But it's certainly a huge stage and so again that was Daniels prediction. I don't I don't I don't WanNa say anybody who who covers the coaching search world on our end of it who has heard any of that speculation but I don't know my guess is if the Dallas Cowboys called up Dan Mullen he would he would RUN RUN FROM GAINESVILLE TO DALLAS. If that's possible that's just a hunch I just think he strikes me as kind of guy who would. WHO's a climber? Who would want to show that he can he can do it at the highest level But yeah you're right about Cacho like he he's he's Lsu. I mean it's it's it really is the perfect marriage and It it always puzzled me at the time. Why there were so much Like so much panning of that higher you know after they initially tried to get Jimbo and Tom Herman because he just. It's now what I have predicted a season like this. No I didn't know who Joe Brady was three years ago or Joe Borough but right it really is about perfect marriage of coach and school blaze from Virginia to finish up on that point. I can't tell you I must have been like three different times as we walked out on the balcony outside his office where he just stood out and just kind of looked around and like you know there's the area where there's just over the practice field old just it was. I'm sitting there going. Wow I wouldn't mind brought my jacket out here. and He's just like Tiger Stadium's off to the right has practice fields off to the left and and you know it's just different to him. I mean I can't like I would be shocked if he if he would leave their for. Nfl Job just doesn't just doesn't compute viewed this article. You'RE GONNA have from all the access you got. I mean this is. This is meat market Type Material. We're talking about here so please make sure so. You're on the athletic this week for Bruce's article if you haven't subscribed you can subscribe at the athletic dot com slash the audible for a discount and also one more plug real quick. Andy Staples podcasts. The Andy Staples show did something that to me is just like the perfect illustration of this great network we have. He is show. That went up on Sunday. Had interviews with all of our beat writers for the four playoff teams Brodie Miller Lsu Bill and is for Ohio State. Grace Rainer for Clemson and Jason Kirsty from Oklahoma. So listen to that So you can get some insight from the people who are on the ground with those teams Blaine from Virginia Pardon his languor blamed from Virginia. You see coaches piss away points in games by putting so there's no guarantee they are behaving rationally off the field either either with all. The backroom analysts advanced video editing technology reading tendencies opposing teams. Shouldn't take that long. Are you really productive when you go. Oh from working fifty hours to eighty hours. Are you doing it just for show to show your commitment to the career by the way this the subject of the emotion mention and was coaching burnout in light of Chris Petersen's news I don't know if that's a statement or a question. Well I mean need. I don't think he's Ross this week. Yeah I think what you see. And I've had this guy had this conversational out this week in Baton Rouge where it's like this whole coaching at attitude. A lot of it. It feels like it comes out of the junction boys and so much is so much of that was how these guys is. Were work came up about harder. Maybe not smarter. And it's taken a while I mean like this is a big. It's not a secret anymore that that's a the big heat or what's changed in Baton Rouge yeah. I think that there's definitely truth to what he's saying. especially I mean. There was was a time when the coaches themselves assistant coaches. Probably were literally the one splicing up the film right way back in the good old days. Now you have this army of people people behind the scenes to arrange the recruiting visits and have the video ready to go. So when you sit down to evaluate recruits you. Don't even have fresh fast forward. It's already ready for you. And and yet they're still working one hundred hour weeks you know I would. I would think every college football coach could benefit from maybe spending some time with one of these efficiency experts that are You know a lot of companies hire experts or consultants to make sure things are running as efficiently as possible. Because I bet you would find a lot of guys who are just sitting around their offices because they think they're supposed to like well if I leave now. The coach is going to think. I'm a slacker Last one comes from Chris. Verner Ski. And it's funny that this is the question because earlier in the podcast Bruce Literally shut us down from talking about Alabama imagine if Alabama had beaten Lsu and Tuscaloosa But everything else. That happened had stayed the same to still dislocated his hip. The following week against Mississippi State and then Alabama loses a classic Iron Bowl with a backup. QB What is the committee we do with this. I think they'd be in during the I think they'd be in but they didn't so well also that he's forgetting Alabama before you're sick of talking about Alabama. I'm not sick of talking about him. But like they've they've dominated the college football world. This is the one year where they really really haven't and the way they ended. It's like we should be talking about everybody else at this point. Okay but that being said I agree but that being said I did my ranking the bowl one to thirty nine and the Michigan Citrus Bowl I had behind only the playoff games in the rose bowl. How are you? How interested are you? You scale one to ten how interested I'm interested. You want to call it the Josh Gaddis Bowl call it whatever you want. I'm definitely interested. Jim Harbors versus Nick. Sabin I mean we have plenty plenty of time to talk about the Bulls that's juicy citrus bowl matchup as I think you can get which just tell you that very well. I didn't even intend that. 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Hour 3: 4/10/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:50 min | 4 months ago

Hour 3: 4/10/20

"Cried Passion and pageantry of College Football Leaves Keer the Paul Finebaum. Show our three podcast. Walk back the second. Half of program is live in underway and we had a fantastic beginning with Archbishop Merino. And you're from Lane Kiffin. We few more guest to go and we'll continue taking your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five crew is in Pensacola and you are next up. Good afternoon high cruise ships Thompson calls a froth of all right to have you. Yes I would like everyone to know the Rapa five months would be a good time to ever say be over real and football via be fooled. Ri- at Saint Right in the first or second of September. How you that's a great idea for you to It sounds good. I think you're probably right to be able to do they. Everything goes she'll be getting in most about the second week of July. We've had football and the basketball see rod say they should write their own all the NBA. But everybody get ready for a great football and Mel of fat be got one. You're great football player of the Alabama Levin Will Coley. Yeah absolutely sure from my hometown. And you know it may be be Alabama for years and we got some great applebee's so I've even like talking to you. Paul Aki up your show Pensacola father support. You keep doing a great job. Thank you very much. It's a great area and It's always been one of my favorites. Thank you so much and you take care of yourself retail okay. My friend great on Donald is in Baton Rouge Donald going on Paul and been trying to get on for a long time. Thank you they Yeah well no in Baton Rouge Diehard Tigers Fan just wondering what you think out dancing. They Will Bama down again if you. It's hard to say now but I do believe the the downtime will affect more than Alabama because I think they had far too many far too many holes to fill with with the three. What's what's The two coordinator positions quarterback situation? Yeah Yeah we live. I I know kind of depressed about all that we lost a lot of good people seem like we just lost a lot. I'm I don't know about my Brennan opening imposed through but I was. I don't know it's be a tough one to fight this year. Yeah I believe that. Lsu will be really good in fact. I think they'll have a chance to to make a lot of noise but I think on paper that's all we're talking about here I think Alabama looks slightly stronger now. The game of course is Tiger Stadium. Yeah yeah that that you know. How hard is winning types day? Even though they've had a good a good runs eight years four times in a row and went my wife and I we got season tickets and But they've they kinda primed up brigger fan up and be a little bit louder. This year was last last few years so This whole thing ensure one thing is certain though I believe this program right now is is on the same level of Alabama so. I don't think that was the case until last year so I think that is a big deal. Hey thank you for the call you be well. Thanks a lot. John is in Ohio. Hello John Hello Paul. I wanted to talk to your Paul. You you know my best friend. My best friend is a guy by the name of debtor brock. Oh of course and You Know Brock The Birmingham rifle is a book that has been written and it's being introduced recently and I wanted to let you know that that brought says hello to you. I talked to him this morning. I was I was a quarterback in college at Ohio Northern University and I Signed with the Oakland Raiders. And I I played with the Chicago Fire With backup Virtual Sheridan and And then I went took Winnipeg Manitoba and I discovered the strongest arm in the history of football And if I don't know a few Have spoken with deeter about His career but in I have not seen him in a while since I left town but He he used to have a radio show and I occasionally occasionally guest on it so I mean his. His wife used to Paul and Medina Rocky. I think he originally went to Auburn. Did he not and then He. He went to Auburn. And then he went to Jacksonville state and he played For Charley Pell Right He His career in the NFL is is legendary legendary. Yes yes and He has house he is he. Is He still in Birmingham town? He's in Birmingham. He sure yes. He's living in in Birmingham doing doing well. I'll try the next time. I'm in town. Assuming we ever get on get get get out of here. Well I'd like to see him on your show. I think it would benefit both you and him and I love for him to be able to advertise his book. The Birmingham rifle okay. I appreciate you letting me know because I I was not aware of it. But that is The people on the line here John Hole. Johnston is phone number. Of course thank you very much. I didn't know I had people. Meco is in California. Hey Hey Mako Nice of you to call. Hey Paul how you doing man I thank you for you know Stanley getting putting on a good show all this stuff time going through and I wanted to ask you about Lane Kiffin and how do you think do you think lane. Kiffin has gone being recruited west coast kids to Ole Miss. And and what does he I don't know at Tennessee? Probably was only there like a year and I don't remember him being there long enough he was only there year. But I've always argued that it had lane kiffin stated Tennessee. He would have been successful he. He recruited very well there right. He's a great recruiter. And then 'cause you know who is you know who top or you know. His top recruiter was at Tennessee. Was Overrun coach. Oh USC they should've kept US coach. Oh at you you are you are fighting against UCLA USC again. Ucla coach the intern. He would have won the game. They would've keping but right they should have still kept him no man because he was a great recruiter and now look look what he's done but you know the SEC. Does the Pakistani in any way you know what I'm saying? Bear Bryant the ghost of bear. Brian is paying the PAC ten back for integrating SEC. Football percents on those coaches get a chance lane. Kiffin that Tennessee Ole Miss Coach old ole miss and Lsu. You know even though he's from Louisiana but he got his he was at SC recruiting putting it down for Carol so the old misguiding omission kept coach. Oh but Yeah Evan I would. I would argue make at the time. He was so bad there that they they made the right call. He was he was good at at at se though they allowed one game to determine their future and they have not been the same sense. You so right about that coach. Oh what it did the same thing at SC that he doing that. Lsu You know. That's a good story. That was the best story San Coach L. Go back you know and you know my families. I run into those difficulties in California myself because my family we from Mississippi so you know all growing up like Utah country. He talked courtesy. So you know I. It's good to see coach l. Could just be a good down home keeping yourself who he is and he on top of the whole college football where so. That's been real good and I can't wait to see the ball. You know him against I man. That's crazy Kim. He he was working under. You know he he and. Lehner are very close friends and when he had lane kiffin not gotten the job at Florida Atlantic. I think there's a really strong possibility or probability that he would've gone to Lsu under under coach. Oh Hey thanks because we have to run to a break. We have more guest to come It's been a very busy Friday afternoon on this. Good Friday and we're coming right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast welcome back on Friday afternoon. Let's check in with score all next man's been a great show today Paul very very uplifting and thanks for having it and I and I've got some good news My niece is in the National Guard. Who went down for two weeks training five weeks ago? Kiesler Airforce Base They released yesterday she with her family. Yeah just about an hour ago. She's think she had it. But she tested positive in someone that was stationed with her tested positive and she had the same symptoms. So it's Kinda strange. But she's looking healthy feeling healthy and look great and my son got his test back this morning and their negative. That is great but yes to me. It's been a great day so far so and Guess what I was doing while I was listening to the first couple hours with a show planting victory gardens. Hey planting victory gardens number two. That is fantastic you Do you have a garden or do you plan anything on the back porch? Or what There's nothing here. Yeah well like I said it'd be if you've got room at your state you might. Oughta get you pot sticky a couple tomato plants in there. Yeah we as a kid we. We grew tomatoes. Yeah Yeah I planted fifteen of them so We'RE GONNA BE DIVIDED. As I planted one garden victory garden number one last weekend at my mother's and Plan Victory Garden number two today. So I'm on my way back home but a lot of people are planning gardens. Guess what else. There's a run on this year. Fall baby chickens. Really baby chickens are flying off the shelf. I mean they're finding their brothers things they to start drilling chickens. Now I guess because of a shortage of food and things of that nature which isn't a bad idea. I'm all for it. If if they wouldn't allow me to have chickens in my neighborhood trust I would but we have some pretty strict rules in in the in the area that I live at. But now I just wanted to call in Pass on the good news there. One and Till I WANNA have a happy weekend and we'll be talking again next week. I'll thank you score. Really pleased to hear the news. Extremely pleased Jefferson Columbus Ohio. What's going on Paul? Hey Jeff a I don't forget. I hope we have a great Easter weekend. My Man I appreciate everything you do. Thank you yeah. Hey have you heard any update on Larry from shelby? I haven't heard anything about him lately. No we talked to him about four weeks ago and Someone called us off the air but I don't think we've heard from him Since all of this began. Yeah I know it. I hope he's listening right now. If he is just let him know people are thinking about him and just kind of curious how he's doing hopefully doing good. I'm assuming power you isolate it from the boys in the box right now I mean. Have you seen them in a while? I haven't seen anyone I mean. I just curious how rough those tasty why guys look especially wasn't so scruffy beard. They've gotta be looking rough right now. Don't you imagine yeah I saw? It's been about three. I think it was three weeks ago today that we pulled out of the studio so I have not seen them since no I spoken to them. We'll grant Jews are looking scruffy. What those beers. I'm sure. Hey I just heard score on the line and one thing I learned. Listen to the show this week. Is Hunting season a squirrel hunting seasons? Why open down your way right this time of year? I mean people coming to scroll really hard including yourself. Squirrel has had A. I'm glad that we ended well until then it had been a pretty rough week. Yeah but he's got a lot of rowdy but I tell you what fall I kind of a little bit newer. He was coming from and I WANNA. I WanNa just discuss that a little bit. I don't think the media by by a lot of people to beginning thought you know. A lot of people were thinking. The media created this story. I guess you'd say but I am a little concerned especially as things are starting to improve a little bit. I'm getting inserted how the media though is reporting it and portraying right now. Well here's what I can I can tell you what's going on. It's pretty easy It's gone from the concerns about what was going to happen to now. When will the country reopen? And that's the debate. I agree and but what bothers me is when things are negative. It's amazing how it's reported versus when we're getting positive news and that's bothering me. A little bit. I turn on the national news when I get home in the evening. And it's always the negative stuff first and then and then like for example stock market had a great week. Okay probably the best I think in forty five years and I noticed it was the third. Yeah but I. I'm not being contrarian here but but hold on a second. The reason why the stock market had that week is because it was down thirty five percent so I think that is discounted somewhat although the stock market is an interesting indicator. I have to whether it's a it's ultimately a true indicator but the media is I think I get a little tired of seeing the numbers up. But that's just that's the new normal. I mean I I don't want the media ever bother me because I can change the channel. Well I agree with that but I just think when it's negative. It's the first thing that's positive. It's the third or four yeah I. I don't mean to debate this Jeffrey but still an enormous number of people dying every day. I understand that and I don't want anybody to but also the point of we gotta people are starting to panic big time right now. I've talked to a lot of people in the last couple of days and I think in the next seven to ten days if people either don't start receiving the money support they've been promised or some jobs start opening back up a little bit. People are really starting to panic from company currently wrinkly people that want to get back to work and some of it. I don't quite understand some of the restrictions to be honest with you. You know like in. Let me ask you like what what restrictions don't you understand. Okay you take a show room for example when there is a a showroom likes to go look at tile or go look at cars. I don't understand why people can't I think some of the businesses have to be allowed to take some of the responsibility owners to you only let ten people in right upper and and there's ways to do that and I think businesses would. I mean I've done employee I've got to be for. Let me ask you what are you doing? What are how are You Operating Your Business Right? How are You Operating Your Business? Luckily were exempted right. Now from you know from And I and I have to keep the guys. We take their temperature every morning. We have you know The whites and everything the Lysol Whitewater you WANNA call it a handy but we definitely have them at like fifteen to twenty feet apart. Okay and if we have to. I've been spending my time. The last cure three run people to and from jobs. Because I won't I won't let more than one guy in a company vehicle. One time there's ways to do it and that's what bothering me as the restrictions on some people are so tight they can't even get creative to open their business back up. I mean businesses would be creative. If they're allowed to be to make it work. I mean what do you think about? Yeah I understand what you're saying. I think what you're talking about is completely different than opening up schools and events. I know I I'm just saying that. I I I would I would find. I think you make a really strong case and what I don't understand And I try to watches every day and and listen and you can. You can watch the president and pretty well understand where his thoughts are. And I think he's thinking about small businesses and big businesses. And and I I. I don't know how to answer your question because I think if you're responsible but you can't get is chaos again especially in certain areas and I agree one hundred percent. It's gotTa be regional. You know to me this this these pockets that are like New York Seattle. It's a lot to do with about the travel of people coming in and out of those and those pockets of the country and Meyer. The numbers say I read something. I was in New York about Right before this happened we did a show from there and I read today that pry about two weeks prior to that This influx started to come in and it wasn't from China. It was from Europe. I right I agree with that. And I've got some very good contact that lives in that lives in Brooklyn and has to go to his warehouse business in New Jersey and I'm not a lot of conversations with him. He's scared to death obviously. But he's kept the Business Open. He's allowed to write he's like. I said he's been creative and he's made it work. Well I'll say this I I'm not. I'm no jeff after onto a break but I do think I think we're close. We were just not quite there yet. I understand your passion. I understand your frustration. I certainly do. We are heading to a break. We'll have a guest coming up in a moment and then we will get back to your phone calls here. You're welcome to call a nowaday five to four two seven two eight five you listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Just Walk Me Back. Great to have you here. It's been really a memorable show and we will back to your calls in a moment. We're delighted to welcome to our show chip scroggins who writes for the Star Tribune Up in Minneapolis and he did really fascinating piece. This week about The State of college athletics. And what possibly this Cova. Nineteen could have the impact could have on it a chip. Thank you thank you very very much for joining us and I certainly hope you're safe and sound. I know things are difficult. But that's pretty evident in what you're writing about good afternoon. Yeah thanks for having me Paul Root for Shit. So take take the audience through what you've learned in reporting and talking to various people and what it all means about The impact and we don't know really winning ends but it's certainly going to have an impact. Yeah I think that's what there's a lot of indie nervousness and anxiety with college administrators. Right now because they don't know when this is going to end and they're sort of fly Flying Blind trying to navigate this and figure out what is going to be the financial impact on their on their departments. And we got a glimpse of a little bit up here this week. Where the University of Minnesota Border Regents Had A meeting and they laid out what they think the implications are going to be for them and the best case scenario Paul for them is what it is right. Now in the project that they're gonNA lose ten million dollars in revenue There they have a moderate what they call moderate scenario. And that's if The gophers are allowed to play sports in the fall but without fans so if you have football games but no fans they project that they would lose thirty million dollars from that and then they're most severe or worst case. Scenario is it extends longer than that in the fall sports or cancelled and and it goes into next year and they projected they lose seventy five million dollars in revenue on that and for context their their budget. This year was one hundred and thirty million dollars. So you know even the best case scenario when you're losing ten million dollars in that's the best case scenario that tells you how dire the situation is and And that's probably pretty typical of athlete departments around the country. Yeah and you know more than I do about the numbers but Minnesota would be certainly In the among the power five in a pretty good realm maybe not Alabama or Texas who were southern cal. But certainly that's a respectable number so if assuming we get to the season and nothing else nothing else occurs you. You mentioned some pretty big numbers. Where where are those numbers coming from as part of that the NCAA tournament is at Spring? What is it Y- they would be projecting cause for for you know the two big conferences? Sec IN BIG TEN. They get so much money from big ten network distribution in meteorites Their two biggest Sources are that in attendance. And so if you take away a tennis from college football and you you can't put fifty seventy five hundred thousand people in a stadium and have that revenue you're gonNA that's GonNa really hit athletic departments hard and so They're projecting that that if they are able to play football games they'll still get the the big ten in media revenue but not the ticket gate revenue That's where the thirty million dollars comes in. And and you know they're in a better situation then. A lot of schools Even power five schools. That don't that don't have the conference network. Tv money that the FCC and big ten to and if you filter down and go to the smaller conferences that rely heavily on subsidies from university student fees and those things and they don't have those big TV packages If you go into fall when it impacts football is going to be a real problem for those schools how how is it. Impacting universities like Minnesota now. And I say now because we don't know about what happens in September but it's probably unlikely. There's there's certainly anyone's putting money in coffers to sign onto September without knowing the Saint Paul. There's not a lot of Big Sporting events happening in the spring. You Pass up all your pass basketball. So you're not losing a whole lot of money in ticket revenue there but I think when they are projecting. The real concern is the corporate dollars. GonNa come back or this sponsorships GONNA come back. Are corporations going to rent the sweets that they used to are the big named donors if you if you're used to giving a million dollars or five hundred thousand or a thousand or ten thousand whatever. Are those individuals still going to be in the same situation because what's happening with the economy to be able to give that money in the future and they don't know when when the economy you're gonNA rebound and come back and so I think those are the things that no one has an answer to and they're trying to project and you just don't know and so I think that's something Zayed is is how is not only the the fans and all that but just the economy and corporate sponsorships and and and donations are people still going to be willing to give that and I think that's the chip in the numbers you've given us fantastic and there's a lot of hard reporting that goes into that but I think the one unknown here is the level of enthusiasm and I've heard it and you've heard it Fans urine to see the Games. But that doesn't mean they're going to the Games. Yeah that's that's the big unknown right now. Let's say that football is back and they're playing in the fall or one hundred thousand people still want to Going to be willing to go to games. I mean that's that's the great unknown. I'm sure there'll be some. They go rushing back because they just ready to have some sports in their life and get back to normal. But I'm sure there are some people that say you know what I'm not ready to do that yet. And so you don't know until the Game Start Kinda what that impact is going to be and how many people are GonNa come back and so You know you can't do poll right and your your project a little bit but until the games come back and they get the all clear again. You don't know how many people are going to be willing to to kind of settle back into the norm and be fans again. What are you here? And what have you learned ship in talking to people What would be the trickle down Regardless of what model we ended up with. It's still going to affect big time. Athletic departments like Like Minnesota and many others so where What happens if if any of these models kick in no fans no not no no games I. There has to be a trickle down dozen. Yeah and that's what that's what athletic directors and are looking at. Now you saw. I think I will stay was one of the first schools to come out Jamie Pollard their. Ad said that he and his his senior staff and all their coaches took pay cuts in. That saved them about three million dollars in payroll for a year They have like director at Minnesota Mar. Kohl is doing the same thing with his senior staff in some coaches and I think that's probably going to be the norm. I I think you're GONNA see most big schools and maybe all schools. They're they're administrators. Inner head coaches take pay cuts but saying that that that gets you a three or four million dollars the you know looking at Minnesota situation they gotta get the ten and if it goes longer if you have to get the thirty million and make up that lost revenue. I honestly don't know how you do it in the one big thing that's hanging out there. Paul it really is a hard discussion for people is schools are going to cut sports. I mean I think that's just a thing that's realistic. And I talked to a former gopher athletic director Joe maturity this. This Week. And he's been he was when he was here. He was a champion for Olympic and non Revenue Sports And he even admitted that if you're an athletic director today deal with this revenue loss privately. You're going to have to have discussions about cutting sports if this goes longer. Because you just can't make up that gap if you're losing thirty million dollars in revenue off your budget. There's no other. There's you can't really nickel and dime that To get to that number. You're going to have to look at cutting sports and nobody wants to do that. And that's a you know a scary and hard topic for administrators have it. I'm sure they're having discussions privately. Yeah finally on that and we talked to christel. Kante last night the athletic director of Texas. And we all know. After football basketball there are some schools depending on where especially down the SEC. Were they believe it or not? Make MONEY ON BASEBALL. Because they have such a brand new stadiums. And and it's it's such a big deal but that's not everywhere and it I I doubt I doubt a lot of places in the big ten. That's a big money maker because the season is the start so it's still so cold but what would be. What are the what would be the most likely cuts realized? That's a speculative question. But what have you heard because he minnesota so they have three sports that they make money football basketball and hockey and then all the other ones lose money and so you know I. I guess like which ones would be the first in line to get cut but I think you'd probably have to look at the ones that maybe don't compete nationally. Can you do it regionally Could you offer those as clubs sports and just play? Kinda regionally But I I was thinking every probably non revenue. Sports is still a nervous right now because they are in lack of a better word a drain on on a budget. They lose money So I think they'll look at more. I Paul about curtailing travel you look at Minnesota Baseball and softball teams because of our climate. Here they have to spend the first month five weeks on the road at the beginning season because can't get outside and play. You're so they have to go to you. Know floored in Texas and California to play Games. So that's a big expense and so I think initially they would look in. Most schools are probably look at travel and different things but I'm sure if he came down and you had to cut sports. You'd probably look at the ones that you maybe you're not the most competitive in and maybe the ones that you're not getting the most bang for your buck. Just out of curiosity what What does it mean to Minnesota Hockey game draw? You know. They're Tennessee. Been way down because they jacked up. The tickets With an scholarship seating plan like seventy years ago maybe and so it it really took a nosedive and they had some some tough seasons in there but it used to be a hot ticket. I mean when they were rolling and they won a couple of national titles that was they would generate sales. But now they're really struggling which you know college sports sports in general. The tenants is a big issue but Their tendency is way down now. But when they're hot and winning They can they can pack in a row. That's amazing outstanding. Report Chris it was. It was a phenomenal story for those who want to check it out chip. Thank you very very much I can't thank you enough for coming on. Chip scroggins from the Minneapolis Star Tribune Chip Comeback Soon. Thank you very very much appreciate. It was really really an amazing report there. We'll take a break and get back to your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Today's horoscope brought to you by GEICO Gemini. You may find yourself struggling with alertness today. That's because you stayed up last night celebrating the hundreds of dollars a year you could save by switching to GEICO. Your struggle will continue well into the afternoon during Philip Status Meeting in which you'll say no phillip. I wasn't snoring. I have severe seasonal allergies. Your presentation was riveting. Well Played Gemini. Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. Welcome back Friday afternoon. It is Good Friday Easter weekend. Let's head to Bob in Rochester. New York Bob. Way Out here from a lot of conversation I I'm not seeing this. Covert nineteen is anything any more severe than any other flu season. I'm seeing inflated numbers. I'm seeing a media scam. I'm seeing the globalist attack on the economy and my fellow Americans better wake up before we're slaves to globalist units. Bob Bob let me ask you one or two things here if you don't mind Considering the people making the call here I'm interested. Why you you think. It's a globalist Well GAM this out the people the doctors making the call. Nobody elected them. And who are they? You don't think they can't be shells from the extended attack on President trump economy Who who really who? Who are day. Well we give them first of all. I understand I mean. The president has attacked the credibility of the W. H. O. That okay enough. To offer an opinion there lane try which is never good in terms of the his. Top people I mean there are a lot of people working in positions. He he clearly or somebody clearly chose the two main people which are found she and brick. So I don't I don't know Who made that call? Do you know not at all but you. Can't you have to remember he? He has to go along because if he if I were presented. Come out and say look. I think this is a globalist scan. Because you can't teach me you can't get me through any kind of kind of congressional Ronald Bs. Okay let me let me ask about another part of what us with a Bob. The media explain. Oh please do it. I believe it was Allen Dulles former head of the CIA Said twenty journalists are worth one agent variable mainstream media. Today is nothing but a bunch of talking had globalist agents. Just just like Joe. Mccarthy tried to explain to his begging fifties but he was crazy back then today. He looks pretty on the spots. So you're you're suggesting the entire media The higher heads had up of networks. Have enough polls to tell all the other minions what to say and what to do just that everybody just enough at the top and if you don't play along you don't have a Gig and what would be the end game to do that. Well you got crushed American economy to make us go into a a global receivership of a one world currency to those who. Don't follow theories like this. Would you explain the end? The end game there for those of us who who aren't as learned it as you new world order. I believe that this is the last ace. The globalist throw on the table to grab this country. That was that they firmly had a group of with Fraud Obama in the White House. I don't care who think I don't give a rich behind. Who thinks what I just said. Don't the globalist in a grip on this country with Fraud Obama in the first time and by the way listen. I'm I'm listening. I'm I always try to learn and I'm hearing some things I haven't heard here Do you defined Many people in agreement with you know well because this way I find a lot of people in denial in too scared to admit it I find see I want my Americans to wake up and start thinking for themselves. Quit listening to the idiot box telling them what to think and be scared. You give up your freedoms for the false sense of security. Okay Benjamin Franklin said Hey I give you a republic if you can hang onto it and we are tested right now I do. I refuse to be the generation that went down for tomorrow's children as we sat in our houses scared. 'cause we could not think for ourselves. This isn't a key attack on the economy that was robust. But now it's dead. I'm on my nation has gone from a free country to a socialist martial law experiment and four fricken weeks. Think about Oh no I watch I watch it every day I. I'm I'm pretty well. What's happening or a good day? Thank you too? We will simply pause there because I think I think our friend Had A lot to say and I don't know what People people are. Welcome to my. My philosophy is the same for every caller everyone can I'm the moderator of the show. I try to glean as much from from the calls from guests is humanly possible. That was that was certainly a different type of call than we've had over these last four weeks. So if you're just joining us. We started with an Easter message on Good Friday from Archbishop Merino then we chatted with a lane kiffin and we had a chip on a minute ago. When we come back we will recap some of the highlights of the week and then we'll spend the majority of the final hour hearing from you at eight five two four to seven to eight five. Appreciate you being here on this. Good Friday special day day that so many people a reflect and we have been doing that for the last couple of days. We will come right back. Today's horoscope brought to you by GEICO Gemini. 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Espn radio all throughout the day. The Boca Blue Martini will never be the same misses him so much. Boca Raton misses him so much. I guarantee you. He misses the Blue Martini. They don't have that was an Oxford Probably not Billy was stunned by that and finally before we get to lane. Kiffin just floored by kneecaps. Just appear like how does that happen lamps. Kneecap start showing up between the ages of two and six. Are You surprised by that? Lame did you know before listening and coming on air here. That babies didn't have. I did not know that I was actually trying to picture it as she 'cause I'm not seeing a TV. So I'm trying to picture whether they do so I'll go with downs. If you say things fast enough and strong enough. Everybody believes them. Y- live my life by that recruiting recruiting South Korea Lynch. That's why you can't crawl on the ground with him without it hurting. I had a relative. Don't what the facts and details get. We have a good story once. What what have you learned Lane Along the path that brings you now to the SEC. What's something that you know? Now that you simply did not know before. I think I'm just like I would hope anybody wouldn't any type of job. You know. Eleven twelve years later from last time head go to this conference. You know you got experience in different places and You know hopefully. Don't make the same mistakes you made when you were younger. So three years coach saving was extremely valuable and taking more of a CEO approach You know learning from him as I think he helped our last spot. A you and hopefully helps here. How DIFFERENT IS OXFORD THAN BOCA WATER? A little bit more true Brian Link. We're looking at houses Fisher in the backyard like okay like gather some crappy and like like. That's the size of the Bait. Fish us down there. I imagine that the real estate is a bit cheaper right you can. You'RE GONNA buy yourself a Pat. You've already have you already when you're coming down to. Fau people were talking about Actually there was an article written. Somebody was shopping. Four houses with you I think. How is the house buying experience been there? It is a little bit cheaper You know but There are some really. You know all jokes aside there some great areas here and my brother lived here before when he was assistant coach so I got to visit him. You know one summer and see it and And the people are mazing. You know it's SEC. And Passion for football and for Sports. It's unbelievable. How close were you? Or what was the closest you are leaving? Fau before this job came along I don't know I I really was. I know every coach says this. But you guys know me. I don't give coach was extremely happy there. I Love Boca You know love the players team leadership and You know we're doing great things so I think it's it's a really easy place to recruit too obvious reasons Boca and the resort and The weather so integrate campus so I was not most people had an FBI score just dying. You know You know to to get back to power five and take any job was not the case. I was active in this and wanted to make sure it's a place that could win and had one. You know this place you know just coming off. Four or five years ago when the sugarbowl. How happy are you actually coach big football players now because what was startling watching your fau football team and it was a good? Football team is that the players are appreciably smaller than the ones in the SEC. I think you always struggle at that level in the in the lines. You know your your big guys like you mentioned you know you especially in South Florida. You can find skilled guys all over the place so we were able to match up with a lot of good people with skill players but Sec's obviously different. The biggest difference always has been the big players. If you were to give me three reasons that you left for Mississippi would money be among them and what are the three reasons Money would not be? I don't and again sounds crazy but money is very low on my list. I think once my opinion once you get the point that you can afford to do what you WanNa do in life that. What's the difference between you know? Making one million four million you know. I know that sounds crazy to lots of people but and I've been around long enough and I see it all the time and recording that money when he creates a lot of problems it doesn't it doesn't solve everything like people think it does so I see a lot of happy people without a lot of money and a lot of people with a lot of money not very happy so now that is not up there at all it really was. Just I think you know a few times a year you know and you know you're watching you know the playoffs and you're watching you know coach mark which saving whoever it is and you know coach. Sweeney and you're just saying you know you miss that you miss that stage of you know competing at the highest level so I think that that really was the only reason it's not about money. Not about where you live was simply about the ability to be a place that you could compete and you could play against those guys. Did you really just say? What is the difference between four million dollars and one million dollars? Of course it's four million three million. You should hit lane giving the you. Don't get the show. Is it true is it. Is it true if you can do what you WANNA do? You've made enough money in your life that you can do what you WanNa do and not crazy to own private jets and stuff like that. There isn't a whole lot of difference if so make make all this money. Sue You for your kids. Well most time you leave out of money for your kids. Those kids are screwed up. So be careful what you know. What's your what's your priorities are Lane I'm wondering here because I the coaches like there's some great characters in there. Who is the craziest coach right now in the Sec? High Close Mike Leach. Now even close next to them. Meaning there's all fourteen head coaches in the commissioner and odor on. It was like it was like I. I should have had to pay money for that seat. This guy knows at a ratchet up the where do you rank in terms of crazy in the conference among the coaches? Because you gotta finish behind ordure onto right. I don't know it was a great seat owes Ron for just say zero stuff you just saying. Let's go hit somebody just win. Baby experience like goes. Hey Are you going south? Are you going back to Mississippi Anita ride to Key West? What what percentage of Ed or girons words does lane kiffin understand one hundred but you gotta remember? That's a lot of years. That's I think. Four Years Assistant coach with them at USC. Then and I was coach at Tennessee and then I was head coach at USC. So that's a Lotta years to figure out that Kgb's you told Lsu when you were in Alabama. Is it true that you told? Lsu To hire him. I did. I thought that you know I talked today. Deion thought that he do a great job. Things are about fit. I mean what an amazing I mean. Look what happened? They wanted Nash Championship. But when a perfect fit for lsu recruit to the state of Louisiana and he's a great coach. Great Leader so Yeah told him you no brainer to definitely keep. He'd been interpreted time. How much time are you spending dreaming of beating Nick Sabin? Who told you not to wear a hat to meetings even know you know. That story was out there about the hat told it to hold on that story. Everybody you guys. But you've got to be thinking about that right like because he and I know you're hugely appreciative of all things. Nick Sabin. I know that that you have a great deal of admiration for him but there were also a bunch of things around him. That felt kind of silly. That aren't how lane Kiffin runs his his show. I just came. I'm you know I kinda say. This isn't coach. Almost like you go from you know apparent to like stepparents so Pekair ause with for six years kind of raised by him in the profession as an assistant coach and the next time on insistent coach is. I'm working for next. So I mean I've to the best coaches to ever coach Hall of fame coaches but do not just one thing different. They do every single thing different. You know nothing close to to each other so that was more adjustment period for me. You know just from what used to go into like says we're going to step part. Can you tell us the best story that you have about how vehemently you oppose the idea of jamarcus? Russell Being Oakland quarterback. This is not eh against your Marcus and I've said it before this you know midnight and for the draft. I just simply. Hey you know we're GonNa pay this guy you know upwards of sixty sixty three million dollars all right in. He's not ready for it. I said I wouldn't ready for it at twenty one. So he's not ready to handle that and you know it hasn't played very much you know and Mr Day was obsessed with the sugar bowl game. Where beat Notre Dame watch him on? Tv So he was obsessed. That Jeff Garcia was coming to free agency. And and Calvin Johnson was there and said Calvin Johnson. The best. You've ever seen ever workout in my life. You know this guy's going to one of the best ever. So that he was just set in his mind obviously was his franchise. So when you think about discomforts that you've endured arriving now back in the SEC. And back in place of that feels like big football The exit in Oakland. Where Al Davis Calls? Yeah flat out liar and says bringing disgrace for the organization. Is that the top of the list for you on discomfort or do you have something else. That's happened where you're like man. That was a really unpleasant thing to go through entire airport at three. Am after fifteen of the year at three and two on probation. Down thirty scholarships wasn't really fun. Especially when it's not expected you're flying back getting ready to go to the office sleeping office to work. The next day. That was that was kind of uncomfortable. I guess where we're happy to be able to have you back in the FCC. We're happy to be able to talk to you again. Lane lane our raise expectations but avenue. Five after five weeks you play. Baylor Auburn. Lsu In Alabama yeah. They didn't tell me the schedule Lane. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate talking to you are they. Did just turn the TV on. What are you guys doing this? Inter where we're at is such a good question. I don't know if you're a star wars fan but I am Darth Maul. I lost It's a complicated story but I lost And I'm do you know anything about Star Wars? I don't think he got started early. Happy Hour there with the blue. Martini misses you. We Miss Your Lane. Thank you for coming on. All right guys have good week feel it. Look now I make money moves. We reached out to coach Leach so he could defend himself against these accusations of lane. Kiffin that he's the craziest head coach in the SEC. But a wall keep trying. Because I miss talking. You'll never talking to us. I've heard him say this on like affiliates of ours like I'm talking to those games right. Let's do it. Let's get them back on every day. Advance auto parts again Lebeau. Ahrq dot com is where you need to go if you to win. This people are going to want to win. This is really exceptional. And Lebeau aren't dot com is where you go if you subscribe to the newsletter. Somebody will win this. Thank you dave. Appreciate you wasting your time with us. Ever been knocked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. It happened Mike. 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Wherever yet your broadcasts a main Alhassan has just emerged from his slumbering place underneath the desk of Billy Gill is always there and the cavs have gotten rid of another coach and can it be said I mean given and I think it might be a stretch but it might not given that since two thousand ten. They've gone through Mike Brown Byron Scott Mike Brown again. David Blatt Larry drew a beeline. Now they're on Bickerstaffe Thai Thai Lou Is that the worst run franchise in the sport even understanding that the Knicks are pretty poorly. Run to They got stiff competition man. The Knicks the sons. The kings of Timber Wolves. People were talking about this during the whole Karl. Anthony towns not getting enough respect despite not winning a game since Thanksgiving The Timber Wolves. If it weren't for the Knicks we talk about them as the worst human sports. They've made the playoffs. One time since two thousand and four when they got knocked out in five games rather uncertain mony sleep but even if you look up their pre two thousand four history That was the only year they made out the first round of the playoffs and everything they had in their in their existence the odor Kevin Garnett without Kevin Garnett. This is by far the worst team in sports. So Cleveland's bad it's up there but they've got some competition. Karl Anthony towns. Is everyone wrong about him like I? I really thought he was going to be a special player. Who could carry a team? The the talent there but he's got to accept certain things about him so I'll give you a great example. The top two lineups in the timberwolves this year in terms of minutes played. If you take the same four players and put Gordon Chang as the center as a guy they have a decent top ten defensive rating. You take mortgaging out and the only thing you change as you may Karl. Anthony towns the player with the four guys not just the worst defensive rating in the League but quite possibly the worst defensive rating in NBA history. Oh He's horrible and he's horrible defensively and and it's not something that's recent or justice year. He's been that way the whole time and it's not just a numbers thing if you pull up the film and You watch the clips. He's just doing whatever he wants out there. And that's been the knock on him. He's got a very low buying to what things are going on. It's the reason why Jimmy Butler and Tibbs got run out of town because the guy wouldn't buy in. They will try to introduce things he would say. Well it Kentucky. We did it this way kid. Everyone's gotTa scrapbook. No one cares about what you didn't count it. Can the next got him towns? Yes I mean. I think Minnesota's still boarding on how great he is for them and they just got Russell but yes at some point. I imagine the next would be involved in that. They had the worst defensive rating of all time. With Karl Anthony towns that lineup with towns in there would be one of the worst defensive ratings of all time? What's happening there though? I mean as he batted evangelizing trying on defense. It's it's it's a combination of everything. The radio audience by the way is really tickled people moving out. No it's it's it's a combination of things one. He doesn't do the right things he doesn't he doesn't execute and the other part of it is if you do that consistently every year at some point. You just aren't good defensive player. That's just a fact. He's not a good defensive player. Would you argue? He's the worst defensive player of all time. Don't make billy do that again campus. He's up there. Did you actually hurt yourself with the mind blown? I think it's one of your best. Ever Nice socks nowhere if if you guys were not watching on. Espn news. I'm hoping they've if you're you missed it. They didn't Miss IT I. That's the way they got what they missed the mind blown for those missing. What was the stat? No don't do that again. To Billy Billy injured himself flying out of the screen with a mind blown. Which when you look at the top two lineups. The timberwolves play this year. And the only player you separate Is the center position. Gordon Chang versus qualities downs gordy Jiang. It's about a top ten defense. We call Anthony towns. It's not only the worst defense in the league but might be one of the worst of all time they blew it on television Donlevatar Stugatz. When you have the ever go to use it. Live at our show with Stugatz on. Espn RADIO ESPN. Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. All Gas on the Dan lebatardshow via the Shell Pennzoil performance. Line here's your sportscenter. Update the seahawks Greg Olson. To a one year deal worth seven million dollars with five and a half million guaranteed. Baylor's women's basketball coach. Kim Mulkey reached six hundred career wins in her seven seven hundredth game. Sorry about that. Six hundred win seven hundred games. It's incredible. She's the fastest to reach. Six HUNDRED WINS IN D. One history for both men and women and finally ninety. Three percents of students do their research online instead of libraries. Where do you need a blink security camera on your porch out protect deliveries helping? Keep your family safe when you travel alerting you when the kids get home from school absolutely. Where do you need? Blink security cameras visit blinkprotect dot com slash. Damn for all the latest headlines Information sportscenter on. Espn radio all throughout the day. Libraries have to be struggling to be. I don't know I mean I guess based on the story I just read it. You would guess but one were. They ever thriving libraries. I mean when you couldn't find things on the Internet you had to go search for them. Yeah libraries weren't capitalistic. Venture right publicly funded and the only way they get money is if you like. Alba late book. I'm not talking about as a business. I'm talking about the idea that all over America libraries have to be cavern. Ously empty up probably but is that a bad thing. I mean there's nothing like a good stroll to a public library They'll car ah eat all of it. It's great microfiche. I mean is he wrong. You want an empty library. Dan and I'll tell you why right now. Thanks for asking. This is why you want an empty library. What's the number one rule of library? No Sh- yep that's the number one rule too many people less less people marsh boy. That's what you wanted. The library Mike and we finally get to finally get to the myles Garrett Mason Rudolph take that no one has heard. Espn tried to prop up that story. That was dead for several days. Mike Tomlin came on. I take we. We melt more. The story was dead it was dead and then we milt some more out of it was done and then we can show the video again and again and again of any more milk in there. Is there any more milking? They're milking. Dan Allegations were made people responded. This is how this works. I know but the Mike Tomlin Several days after the fact appeared on I take it was my doing. We were milking provide the platform. Only blinked twice there in that entire interview Made that up but the underwrite. Yeah here. Here's the take that you're not really hearing anybody admit. I want all this to go away. This is what they're saying behind closed doors at the NFL. Undoubtably to there is no good result here. None of it. There isn't if this thing goes the distance if there's legal I if there is a suing of miles Gary Now. Tomlin is saying that he would consider legal action and Mason. Rudolph is saying makes an Rudolph's people are saying I keep floating out there. He is considering legal action. We said that Mason. Rudolph looks like somebody who would tell you that. His daddy's GonNa sue you but Tom would also said he would want the story to go away and then said he would pursue aggressive legal action. Yeah Michael McCain actually wrote an interesting article as to why Mason Rudolph would probably not actually pursue a legal option. Because if he's the one doing the suing then the burden of proof is on him he actually has to prove that myles. Garrett didn't hear this which is a lot more difficult whereas essentially a tie a loss for Mason Rudolph at that point and all of us. Nobody really knows what happened. But let's follow this to the end of where it is and there's a big lawsuit and we find out maybe something was said wasn't said societally. I'm not gonNA like any of these results. Each side is going to be propped up in an election year. To mean something socially that it's an ugly situation there is no good ending ending here myles. Garrett lied or the I guess the best ending is Moscow. Thought he heard something. That was just a misunderstanding. Maybe something like that but wasn't exactly that but what what what are we. Rooting people are rooting for things here. You WanNa root for Mason Rudolph a white quarterback in the NFL to actually say that word or do you want to root for myles Garrett a black player a former number one overall pick lying about this. I can tell which is worse this awful. I wanted to go away. I just hope it's buried of Mason setted. That's that's worse. We all agree on that. I mean they're both pretty bad. Though in in these particular both of them are bad but when Mike says there is no good that comes from it I would say ratings ratings is a good that comes from and it's why some of that milked of some of that gets milked like obviously it's all ugly and obviously none of it. This is what I've told you before whether we're talking about Hulk Hogan shouting the word the ways that we discuss racism in these venues is spectacularly dumb. We just go to the easiest. Most obvious place of diddy. Call me that name or did he not call me that name? Should he be using that word or not using that word doesn't end with an a? Or an are we go to the dumbest places possible in discussing this stuff as opposed to talking about the stuff that is meaningful racism that means not something shouted possibly by a quarterback in a rage of frustration. Or you know just in. What does that smollet is that? He's now he's being. He's being indicted now in in Chicago. Like all of this stuff is it's just empty-headed nonsense where people can discuss race comfortably when this when it's this stupid yeah it's even racist can get behind the fact that saying the N. Word that sort of cut and dried. That's the tipping point on what we can all but that but that's a place you won't find when something like that happens you will find instantaneously for as much complaining as we've gotten over the years here because I talk race too much instantaneously. Everyone's in on the dumb conversation it when it arrives and it's got a video immediately people like no you're okay to talk race there and it's the dumbest possible way to yes but I don't know how to have this conversation. I can tell you I don't want to have this conversation because there is nothing good here to discuss. It's all ugly. Both outcomes either outcome is ugly either. Have a guy lying about this story. Right or misheard or lying about what he heard. Or You have a quarterback who actually said that to a black. There's no audio your. Es Curious Yeah. I don't get how discuss this. I just want like the Astros. I WanNa talk about the Astros. That's how I want to discuss this story. I want to ask any of the questions associated with this story. It's horrible look. I don't now I make money moves was the take worth the wait or I just don't think we're going to go viral. I was thinking the opposite. When you're going in here guys might be it. I think we got it here. I need to go viral dressed as darth maul and I mean you had the chance of town. You stand with Rob Manfred Mann Dan for act. You can't have a topic. Go Away if you bring it up on the show. That's kind of that's right and he's in for two day in which is my fault not Mike but Mike did say I've got to take no one's got you heard that though. Can I invite publicly? I don't WanNa talk about this. And I invite if I rob on the show. The Commissioner Can. I invite him to a safe haven to a safe place. Can I do that? Would you mind line in your corner? I'm am I is corner. I think that's overstated. What do you mean? Dan has in his corner. I think it's a no win position the best I can say for it. That's it is that in his corner Dunham item. Forget it. I'm not GonNa this is going. I've got to get out of here to get the makeup off. It takes twenty five minutes so that I could get rid of all of the makeup to do highly questionable. So Stu gods we'll send you soaring into the sky to punctuate the show today Donlevatar. Hey Dave Stugatz went up these lebatardshow with two guys ads on ESPN radio today on ESPN daily. Triple double machine. Sabrina Lennox Gu said that right left Oregon for the WNBA instead. She returned with one goal a national championship. Here the backstory of college basketball's biggest star that's on ESPN daily with me. Cons presented by ADT Download Subscriber Review. Espn daily available. Wherever you enjoy your podcast. Dan is getting the make up taking all taken off his face for highly questionable. I will get to the polls in a second Chris who was out yesterday did have a chance to really comment on the Astros scandal. But I did have a private conversation with him where he would like Someone to top Nick Marcus Nick. Marquette Marquette case is getting praised today name Yes for saying that the astros players should get beat up. I believe what he said was his exact quote. Yes and he got praise for people who are celebrating Nick Marquette. Not a guy that says a lot. He came out says they should get beat up. And I'm thinking other guys around legal. Probably looking at this saying all right. I see here what his lane is. Let me see hiking one up here. I'm picturing like a Daniel Murphy with the rockies. He's like you know what today I pledge to burn down the house of every single astros. You know what's the next step here? Obviously we don't want to physically harm them. I think you took like five too many steps there from beating up to burning down. Someone's going to sing. If you WANNA make up after beating up is what you're looking right. What is the next step after beating someone up? It's not certainly not burning down their house. Maybe just stealing something from them. Possibly right right I feel like beating. Someone up is a bit too excessive. Maybe hostage situation. Maybe kidnap somebody saying anyway. Nobody gets her singer. I'm just saying in terms of threatening them because you know he threatened to beat him up. That's physical beating anyone out copy where it was like a twix bar the entire time. Say that he was going to beat them up. He said that they deserve beating. So we just say it that way. Okay they deserve to have their houses burned down so and says that today. I'm just saying to get celebrated. You're not actually going to go and burn down their house. But if Dan the Murphy wants to get a few pats on the back he says you know what? They deserve to have their houses. How about this? They deserve to have their cars. Towed right cars to real inconven- add a real inconvenient to hold on. Would you rather get beaten up or have your car towed beat up? I think I'd rather get beat up again your car. So it's a hassle Mike. Would you rather get beat up or your car. To put on the ball would much rather have up for free. Nick Marquess was actually doing. What for cakes was beating you up. So now you have a scenario where Nick Marquette's I'll tell Nicb Arcachon Shit give me as measured I want. I Want Psalm at a Mall. Not Very not very threatening beach now. He's not very threatening. I saw him in a mall. And I'm like who? Is this guy. No this guy and then weeks later Nick Marquette said if I saw you in a mall you can mind your business now. What are the measurable Mark Acres Without the beer without the beard without it? One thing without severe knotsberry Jim cantorial without the beard. And Tim Cantor idea immeasurable. It's a good question tried to google. We can all agree I cannot. We can all agree as a great Chin Right. I'm looking at pictures here. He has a great Chin News Right. I have no idea what Marcus looks like. You Walk in here right now. And he's been in the Pie. Have have the measurable ten one thirty six years old? Mike I feel like you adjust to the woodshed six to ten. You know Mike Would Mike. That'd be only take marquette so the one hundred it's only my at Tony King. It seems tough as nails. Well answer the question though so you would rather have you would rather have marquee kiss beat. Ya Than Your car towed than beat up on me. I don't know I think I grabbed cartel lawrence five minutes. How much damage is more Hummel? You for five minutes around Emma me who you wait forty eight hour Lord.'. You're saying beat me up flatly now. The question would I rather fight Nick? Marquess or get my then. It is literally in my own hand. You can obviously fight buying nick markets beating. You all right. I'm not so sure that's what I just said. I said I might be able to say more to the woodshed not woodshed. I think it'd be a good fight. No chance and it's a five minute time. Limit Right. Yeah you have to dance around with five minutes if I realize like Oh man. I underestimated Dick. Marcus then I got five minutes salutes. Sort of kill time. Get them into like atop. Don't you know? Is this an honorable fighter? No rules bigger than Nick. Nick Marquette's younger billy. I am a great platter. I'm a black belt in karate. Wow now I was nine years old when I got black belt but I know how to fight marquee. Is that stay with you for life. That black belt to renew it should relationship. I don't remember any of this. Bill expired there right. But I've made a fight in the last five years right wanted to. I don't want to reveal all by someone bigger than Nick. Marcus older the nick. Marc Jacobs no professional athlete. I did was I mean. I've been Home Mazda. That so bill because the courts could be like a forty eight hour the whole ordeal. I'm telling you added forty eight hours. You're lucky if he car back after it's towed plus you have to pay plus their minds. I mean you gotta go down to the garage. It's it could be a week so we'll anyone one up Nick Marquez. Is the question you deserve to have. Your House burned down. Let's hear it from somebody. It's not it's they deserve. It's not what they're gonNA do. There's gotta be observed. There's got to be a step B between getting beaten up and house being burned down there has to be. I'm I'm looking at a picture of Nick Marceca's right now you're taking me. I'll take my. I take my chances over again in my car and just because I get in my car towed. He's got quite the Adam's apple does but it's a target. We didn't get to the pulse but this was a much more delightful conversation. What took so long to get to it. Oh as laboratory.

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Hour 3: 9/3/2019

The Paul Finebaum Show

38:11 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3: 9/3/2019

"No one's been part of more first days of work than car harper and in the same way rookies have to keep earning respect carl hart never stops earning the respect of hardworking people like you since eighteen eighteen eighty nine cohorts got your back twenty four seven visit carshield dot com forward slash c._f._p. Cried passion than patrie of college football relieves here on the paul finebaum. Show our three podcast glad you're with us on <music> a tuesday afternoon. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five and let's continue brownie is up next next in houston hillary brownie gerrad. Hey paul. Thanks a lot for taking my call <hes>. I'm a first time caller but i watch your show <hes> religiously. It's a fantastic show. Thank you i have. You're most welcome. I have a different perspective probably than a lot of people <hes> <hes> i'm a native ohio and i graduated from ohio state a bleed scarlet and gray and i'll always be a buckeye but i've lived in houston and for the last thirty eight of my seventy six years and <hes> so i get <hes> i get a lot of the what used to be the southwest conference <hes> now. It's the big twelve of and i certainly get <hes> a lot of exposure to the s._e._c. Tremendous respect for s._e._c. football in addition to being a buckeye grad and <hes> lifetime alum member the president's club. I'm also a proud member of the tiger athletic foundation at l._s._u. Absolutely i absolutely absolutely <hes> i've got great friends over there and south louisiana love south louisiana and i also <hes> love tiger football so this this is a tremendous weekend. I'm looking forward to this weekend about like i look forward to the end of the season games between my beloved buckeyes and that team up north. I have really helped about about playing texas because i am not a longhorn fan. Even though i've got two children that are loved from texas texas and <hes> and my granddaughter is also at at texas and i'm paying her tuition over there so this is this is a great weekend <hes> <hes> with the buckeyes being on at eleven o'clock our time against really what's gonna be a tough game with cincinnati luke fickle coming in there to the horse shoes in game. I agree it really is paul and i'm telling you that that is that is <hes>. It's not a trap game because the buckeyes know exactly what they're facing jason and then i heard <hes> all your interesting segment with <hes> <hes> n._m.'s jimbo both fisher yesterday that was most <hes> and and he's of course going over to clemson to see what they can do about making man's for last year. That's a that's a tough if one <hes> and then of course what's really the <hes> the the cherry on top of the sunday is going to be the the evening ball game. I'm with the tigers and the and the horns from from austin <hes> you know <hes> as a i love tiger football and i have for many years but it's it's having <hes> having a fellow o._s._u. Alum joe borough at quarterback is just as they would say in south louisiana. Ah that's just lagnota up just a little bit more so <hes> i <hes> my son's got back with <hes> with with one of my good buddies over there at at l._s._u. And i'm not getting into that but i am going to say this at the end of this weekend. <hes> <hes> the buckeyes now being fifth and tigers are six then i but as much respect at this point on ratings as you do but i i think that the tigers are going to jump the buckeyes regardless of what happens to them in in columbus because i look i think i think the tigers are going to do it. It's going to be the tough but at any rate <hes> all i can say is is go tigers and one other thing. I'm looking forward to saturday's in the south and the first installment of that show this evening. I wouldn't miss that for the world but <hes> paul. I want to talk to you. Hope you'll call back soon. I will polish and thanks for taking my call and putting up bush name. No i thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a great call and we'll go another great call d._j. My ball headed brother. How you doing this day man. I'm hanging on hanging in there. I got got some good news for you and some bad news good news is that lives there live for that is getting a little bit shorter. I mean line was long at the beginning of the season before the season started but unfortunately you still got some people coming in begging for good news. It's all shake out. I me i know they i do wanna hear anybody calling begging for respect love it is it is entertaining to me. I see i see is it frustrates you to a point to where these people were talking about the a._p. Poll who cares it's about a._p. Poll we gotta committed. This is something for us to look at and until we get the committee going. I mean who i mean. We have people crying about well. We we didn't move up. You know today and they go over there. Nobody team. We got the best win. No these may cry me a real. It's a people i mean okay. We gotta comanche mattie matter. Yeah you always hear the people just wanna people when people are upset just to be upset but they're not happy <hes>. They're not mad but i mean come on the second week of the season. People is is is is like one of these presidential polls. Somebody's ahead by by twenty points one day and the next day they show everyone tied. They don't mean a thing not a thing man and i heard somebody call in yesterday. It gives us a sad report. They're smoking. The air transport is is dead but they rejected him. He they get away movie that they they gave them a dog biscuit and told him to go home man. That's that's a you know. I heard talk. I heard you talking about that. Call about him in tennessee and alabama. I know all about me. I'm not gonna say but a man. I'm not feeling off at o._t._c. So you guys were that. That was a that was one of jim's more interesting calls in a long time yeah man it reminded me you do not do not know how comfortable you by talking about that guy like that follow. This still do something like that. Oh yeah how can you fouling up. There is the i mean. I'm not trying to rehash the case. Anything always struck me. I i rarely make proclamations when it comes to murder investigations but <hes> he didn't fall down or up those steps diddy i we i they with at least that's what they told us the story and they keep to again <hes> guarantee <hes> he he did have an alabama cup in his hand though i heard the part that was is that really true. Oh that's absolutely true yes. I thought that was like a you know just a you know how people have embellished the story the disney i looked. I'm pretty sure i've seen the police record so man. Eh okay man. I think we might beginning a little bit of people because people don't even know what the heck we tell them. How about you know the the national audience though but i i do wanna say one what they i mean i i'm not gonna this. This is not me. I me making any statements. I know alabama dear start off. You know kinda slow offensively. I think i'd defense play good. What about being at the game is that i can see on the game and that on t._v. I got a chance to just focus focus on my two inside linebackers and not watch them for a good amount of time. They never did seem like they was. They know what they were doing confused at winning a lot of confusion i'm going on so i was kind of pleased with that and i think you know. It's going to be fine in the middle of for now. At least i do want to say that and i appreciate you taking my call bs. Thank you have a good day always great to to hear from you. Thank you very much very much. Don is in georgia. Don gerrad had paul finebaum. What a pleasure. It is to speak to you today my friend thank you appreciate that. Oh my my privilege <hes> darryl in columbus. I'm not here to bash him. <hes> he's entitled to his opinion opinion and i can take that or leave it but i wish the boy would get telephone <hes> i couldn't understand anything he said today yeah and if he'll poke fun me page on facebook. I'll send him a couple of dollars to donate. I have four or five five dollars in my wallet right now. I'll put that in there to start. I mean we don't need that much money. <hes> we get we get five or six or seven people but i mean it just sounds like you're you you remember those <hes> phone g like order a subscription to sports illustrated and they give you a phone in the with your subscription. That sounds like the phone daryl's using. I think you're right right. I think you've hit on it. <hes> wanna talk about the bulldogs for just a moment. <hes> was excited to see a game saturday night against vanderbilt and i was anxious to see how the receivers would perform. We lost a lot the air and then <hes> i wanted to see if the defense had improved and i think in both instances i did see what i was hoping to see <hes> but those first three drives <hes> they were almost perfect when they drove down the first three times. I had the ball and scored. I thought the offense performed will at that point. I was a little disappointed with with the offense later in the game when they got into the red zone and had to settle for field goals each time yeah i can understand on that <hes> i i have not talked to kirby smart jensen i think he i think he knew what wasn't going to happen in that game. I don't think he he really was concerned about being challenged but i bet he would have liked to have seen a crisper effort. I'm sure i'm sure of a bit <hes> and i. I was really disappointed to see on one vanderbilt drive. We had three fifteen eighteen yard penalties and just stupid mistakes and i i i know their kids and and they can make mistakes but my goodness. You can't can't be a championship team. <hes> without correcting those mistakes and i think people get them corrected. I don't have any doubt he will listen really nice of you to call. Thank you very very much. We're heading to the break. <hes> we've a lot more to do and we're gonna delve into a really interesting story that <hes> we all heard about. But how much do we really know rochdale and grow join us from sports illustrated coming up here shortly listening to the paul finebaum show podcast back <hes> we continue here on a tuesday afternoon lottery action lot of overreaction for that matter so let's dig deep into a story behind the story in relation to what we're going to see on saturday deny. Tom herman the coach of texas at oser on but how it almost wasn't to be that way remember l._s._u. Issue originally made a run at jimbo fisher. I was the year before and then the next year <hes> a lot of other things started started to happen in ross's used to used to work in baton rouge now works illustrated. <hes> put together just a fascinating piece russia's. We say hello to you. I i of all the things that surprised me the most. I believe it was the conversation with joel. Leave a good afternoon good afternoon soon paul. You're you're you're not the only ones surprise at at that you know <hes> it's funny <hes> how people kind of change and open up <hes> <hes> when they are no longer employed at the school in which they were you know so <hes> you do get people and coaches the same way you know when a coach is retired or resigned or or fired you know you can get the coast to say a lot of things. <hes> and i think it's the same thing here for joe leave. I think he he he he kinda wanted to open up a little bit and <hes> you know it's. It's a subject probably wanted to talk about for a while all but because he was in the role l._s._u. He he felt like he shouldn't or couldn't <hes> and yeah it it <hes> it surprised me as well. I greatly appreciate take his time and honesty so let's let's go back because i think people are going to be confused. We all knew about jimbo fisher and less miles and all that and then that was one year and then of course. I think it was one year. Wasn't it helped me help. I'm i'm confused. I'm asking the question two years a little bit. It was a crazy easy two years and they do get you kinda lumped together in a way in there some crossover and actually after my store and there's a few people that thought i was talking about the twenty fifteen fifteen when i was actually talking about twenty six th twenty fifteen is a year where l._s._u.'s late in the year lost three straight games and there was rumors of of <hes> less mom's is getting fired and there was that outpouring less miles in the last regular season game and a._m. And they ended up keeping less joe liba the podium after that game and said we're gonna keep less around around during that stretch we wrote about that. I think i was the one with you. We wrote a note about that last november about how they how they close it to pursue jimbo he was on his way basically <hes> to come intel shoe. That was yeah twenty fifteen so in twenty sixteen the next year left lasted four games <hes> l._s._u. Two and two as a starter the season the top five i dropped to they fired him in late september of twenty sixteen and they took two they had two months basically to search and scott coaches. You know and that's what they did. <hes> it all kind of crescendo of the search. Was that thanksgiving week. You know in two thousand sixteen where it was basically basically you know tom. Herman verse ed ores ron off the field you know it was it was the the the off the field version of who's going to get the l._s._u. Coaching job job so <hes> herman's one of the hottest coaches in the country he he's at houston owes ron he did okay but it wasn't spectacular lost alabama which everyone thought he had to win and then did he not lose to florida toward the end of the season as well correct and that that's where that kind of everything really began. You know i i <hes> i think that l._s._u. Joel even the search committee he had a he had a <hes> <hes> for he was one of five members of the search committee in <hes> during that season and i think had had on the l._s._u. Beaten florida and you remember paul that florida game was supposed to be played earlier in the year but was moved because ryan cain <hes> and so it was moved to the week before thanksgiving <hes> both teams bought out there not com smaller non conference opponents in a schedule that game in baton rouge and if l._s._u. Had beat that florida teen eighteen. There's a lot of people around the university that thought that that next monday two days later or even that sunday the day later that it was going to be named ellen. She's coach cajole evening. Go that far with me <hes> but he went far enough to tell me that there were there was a lot of people <hes> that search for many was on board with iran then when they lost stayed home to florida. I think it's sent a few of it got some big money. People some boosters kind of involved a little more about pushing to go get tom herman erm and enjoy lebron. Did you know that's when they kind of just started so the sunday <hes> after that florida gang going into thanksgiving week l._s._u. And in eighteen and we're gonna play that big thanksgiving night game and they pursued. Tom herman that week so monday and tuesday of that week. I think they basically <hes> gotta gotta deal almost done contracts already numbers were agreed upon <hes> comments and requests that he made through his agent trace armstrong they had agreed upon on virtually everything from what i understand and they had scheduled a meeting for that saturday morning two days after that thanksgiving night game was scheduled to be played in a day. Hey after tom permits memphis team or i'm sorry houston team was gonna play memphis so they they they had they had a saturday morning. Interview scheduled <hes> <hes> and then you know and i can go take you through the whole thing. I'll try to yeah yeah. Thanks yeah thanksgiving night or wednesday. Wednesday was when a lot out of the stuff was breaking it at jimbo in it <hes> it was all b._s. You know it it was a it was not true. The reports that jimbohannon oh had an offer a job offer that wednesday before l._s._u. Played thanksgiving that was not for julie but said he talked to jimmy sexton one time that year they offered <hes> he was. He was winning seven point five year over seven years ellison. Search committee thought that they just weren't gonna pay it. <hes> you know you saw of course a year later in pay it basically a pay a little more <hes> ten years. They got dope that wednesday. That'll happen thursday. Get your a._m. And l._s._u. playing thursday night and you remember fifteen minutes before kickoff <hes> chip over in orange <hes> or not worth the horns twenty four seven dot com texas. I broke the news occurring l._s._u. Close to deal chip you know he was covering texas and he he broke that story that kind of sent everything <hes> that's when it really got out you know the the search committee had this plan that it was keeping secret and it kinda got out of there pursuing tom herman and you know joe liba leaves it was traced on strong's age or was it was tone from his agent that leaked the story to get texas. Demobilized texas is exactly what happened. You know the next day <hes> texas loss of d._c. They fired charlie strong. They swooped in <hes> despite l._s._u. Being at the finish line with tom herman texas food in <hes> and trace armstrong on call joe leyva that friday night or that it was actually the wee hours that saturday morning and said look <hes>. You know basically this what's going on. We're talking to texas. We can't meet with if you you know here's what texas offering and <hes> joe leyva <hes> already telling trae much. You know several days before that. I'm not gonna getting a bidding eating war with you. I'm not going to get bidding especially with texas you know he he we want him but we're not going to get any kind of bidding war. <hes> in in trace promised wouldn't happen. Call him that that saturday early that saturday morning with the news that <hes> you might be in a bidding war in joliet told him <hes> <hes> something that i can't say on air <hes> follow but that was it that was that was it within an hour. He called doors ron <hes> offered him the job. In in a few hours later of course texas announced that they had offered an adult home of the job and he accepted wow i mean that is a lot to uncover and unpack but but i mean they're they're. The next question is pretty obvious what the answer is. <hes> has i mean tom. Herman was heading l._s._u. L._s._u. at at some point during that week was he not yeah i mean i think joe. Leyva has a has a great quality. The story was on the record quote of that story <hes> they had that saturday morning meeting set up before texas got gall l._s._u. And tom had that saturday morning meetings there was supposed to fly into hobby airport in houston in meat. <hes> enjoy a is quoting. My story was if things went well at the meeting. He probably would've gotten the job so that that tells you how close they were. You know now. Here's the big thing point you you hear. Some people say this <hes> nationally. They've it kind of and i've got some texts or last twenty four hours since the story drop and they say tom was never gonna shoot in that. It was kind of a ploy to get to get the texas job. <hes> in which joel leave says that as well but i think a lot of l._s._u. People believe that tone was gonna if like texas didn't open if they ended up keeping choice real estate taxes. Would it be paul. That friday would have texas nope. Would tom have actually followed through in going to l._s._u. A lot of people nationally especially someone that coaching industry would tell you he never was going to go but l._s._u. Shirley thought he would you know but then texas got involved and that was his dream job aw that's tom's this is told me the job the one that got you know he he spent over a decade coaching career and texas co co graduate the system for matt brown at texas <hes> but i always wonder i wonder two things if texas and never open what would have happened would have followed through and going l._s._u. 'cause it's it's hard for me to see all that that he would have stayed at houston and houston degree program especially a group of great group programs but then he would turn down l._s._u. That would have been tough for me to see my other. Question is if edwards aren't l._s._u. Lose that thanksgiving night game who else she's coach and this is something i couldn't get in the story. I ask ask your lever that he paused for about five seconds and said. I really don't know so <hes> there was a list of candidates. They looked at but i'm not i. I don't know who would have been issues. He's coach and how important was it for os. You're on that he was telling leva and i think this is pretty true. I've talked to lane kiffin about it the lane kiffin who's going to l._s._u. While he by the way this is also the day of the alabama auburn game kiffin. I saw him the night before we're staying at the same hotel and i ran into him in the workout room and he's he's preparing to play auburn but the but i i think everyone you tell me he was. He was going baton rouge. Was he not yeah. I remember being a beat writer covering l._s._u. Reporting that you know that friday i think it was that friday getting that news that that lane was i was talking to was potentially going to come at that. They were targeting. I remember writing you know sources said they're targeting lane kiffin and that he would come and all this stuff if he didn't get head coaching job and yeah it was all true. He ended up <hes> <hes> lane <hes> was preparing. You wonder if elaine left alabama a few weeks later i mean while he's trying to prepare for the championship game. He's texting with that or is ron <laughter>. You know about about tom herman about the the head coaching job at l._s._u. And it it's crazy. It's crazy but but yeah he he had told ed ed had told joe it was part of edge plan. Ed's interview with joe for the fulltime job that right lane was coming. It was gonna be head coach. Lane kiffin offense coordinator dave <hes> random defensive coordinator of course we all know you know laying ended up getting a head coaching job so he didn't come but had not gotten a head coaching job he at least had promised ron and joe lee he was coming. Can you imagine jude rogers for the sake of argument. If kiffin hadn't gotten the job when kiffin goes into tell nick saban. Hey i'm leaving to go to work for eddo sharada. How how fast would he have been out of that building. Yeah yeah that way. I didn't last much longer either right. It was when they kinda split so <hes> boy it <hes> yeah it that would have been something if you and you know what <hes> in just this was definitely not in the story. I don't know how true it is but i think nick knew what was going on. I mean nick obviously is very successful coach for reason. I think he's got his hands on. Everything is everywhere. He knew i'm pretty sure that lane was talking to l._s._u. It didn't know that friday when i reported as he knew there got back to them yeah well of course <hes> lane immediately really <hes> also threw himself into the houston job as you remember it utterly amazing <hes> the intricacies you can do a book on that but the story will suffice <hes> ross incredible job. Thank you so much for sharing with us yeah well. You gotta read this story. It is priceless. We'll take a short break. We're heading. We're heading into a break now. Guests a little bit later. We'll find out what's happening in columbia south carolina your phone calls are next. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back here on a tuesday afternoon. We're we're working our way through the show. We'll head to columbia columbia south carolina in the next hour. See what in the world is going on there. Jim is up next. Hello jim well. You know politics you since you since fastball and i'd be you sent me down to the krasny ball down here with tibo tibo having a good time that was paul between the two. I was me meet someone him batting practice <hes> which i am now nothing but a batting practice pitcher <hes> this is the ground jokes enormous in craft speed territory danny. I'm telling you after your call yesterday jim. I think you're back in the majors well. That's why i call this time. I wanna tell you something. <hes> you know. Calmer is not of god but reaping what you sow is ice scripture versus you will know and that will our refer to yesterday when i said that's what they're doing. They're paying for the sins reap in what they so that it has either here or here. If you remember that commercial you can pay me now are you can pay me later. What oh yeah. I agree greg some now. <hes> i believe tennessee. He's paying now for what happened in two thousand one. Who would you covered thoroughly. That was one of the most of your with times of the year <hes> of everything of the whole many many times. I've been on the show because shane was that his best phillip. What are we not tell you something else. Since i am a third third a third rate passed the ball oh player now i really do love to hear your top flight. <hes> hall of fame <hes> all star collars which is number one in my opinion jimmy from chicago. I get this day. I still wanna hear it. Was he involved at that time was he. What was he following alabama like. I didn't remember i know he's been here long john john he's been calling a long time. I don't remember him back. Then could have been you know history. He's got behind him. Fifty years history you know he he knows all about that that timeframe and i'd like to hear his his opinion and all that but <hes> you your opinion i wish you can play some clips of your opinion coming in the firemen sharing up and the rest of us up <hes> for now you replied to <hes> phillip fulmer and tennessee back at that that time and they were no favorites of the finebaum especially paul signs but that boy i i you know that i remember that now and a lot of people don't don't really understand what we're talking about but <hes> when it came down to the first time after that and the year later he couldn't get in the stadium he couldn't get the state. They keep them out of the city for safety. You remember that yeah. No it was it was it was a civil war. Fulmer decided not to attend s._e._c. media days one year because so yeah yeah exactly. I wish you doing another column on that. You were doing some columns on that back. Then i was i was a writer then i lost my lost. My fat my writing fastball too but anyway. I love what this guy said. Well go. You said you know i know the pride of perhaps <hes> i know i might feel the same way i don't know but i'd love a phone or a new phone if it was better here's the point all we will. I wanna wanna hear darrell and i agree with you. It's not it's in padraig again today. I can only hear about three words did he said and i didn't couldn't keep up with what exactly he was talking about and i wonder if he's screaming into the phone so loudly because i think he does talk too close to the phone but i also think hey call one once or twice and he had a great phone and you could everywhere you could hear it clear as crystal no problem so i wish i wish he would take the offer of yeltsin him a phone. At least you'll having another one in reserve. It's the one he's got. They likes that doesn't work. You know whatever but i just wish he would do that because i want to hear his call i wanna hear jimmy and i wanna hear jimmy from china dog when i wanna hear darren was called the best. I know jimmy's best collar right now for basketball. You know i have a fastball. If i'm dying eh. You're still paid fifty four yeah yeah. You can't take that. Can you take out a way not to buy a lot of books and never sold to get rid of that one <laughter>. That's probably why didn't sell but anyway. Hey if jimmy collins give me a ring legal i i. I like to talk to jimmy. Just kidding really what i would like. I would have liked to got don't what we'll get. You guys together again. Okay all right. Thank you very much. Thank you thank you heading to a break right now and we'll talk to josh kendall in the next hour. We are continuing right here today at eight five five two four to seven to eight five back with much more listening to the paul finebaum finebaum show podcast hello everybody you're looking live at fans bill a college football utopia within oh the rivers flow with ice cold dr pepper with the air smells a fresh cut grass artificial turf and smoked meats it with a radio only plays marching bands and being able to read the defense is more important than being able to read but what makes fans vanderbilt truly special are the people who call it home field the type of people who tailgate before the tailgate worn afraid a dish out. My grandma could've made that kick because that's the honest truth she's passionate fans by loyalty tradition and the sweet we tweet nectar of the college football gods get a taste of fans villas fall during a college football game near you dr pepper the official l. drink of fans ville grab some today or back. Let's grab coaching morristown tennessee coach good afternoon to you. Hey paul paul. Thanks for taking my call thank you i just i've been in meetings a little bit this afternoon. Just checking in but i get i got hurt. Gm's call please somebody. Tell him the word. He's looking for karma when he's on tennessee yeah. That's please help him on karma love you jim and i'm getting on. I'm just trying and help the sapient out a little bit. Hey <hes> correct me if i'm wrong. How many frequent flyer miles do you have now paul <hes> i'm. I'm looking pretty good right now. Coach i would be in your wheel. Can you will be the the miles if i get this right. Thursday was charlotte nashville. Saturday saturday was nashville new york sunday new york charlotte mundy charlotte back to new york. Is that about right <hes>. That's <hes> you definitely in in my american airlines out. Do you wake up each day. Go in the first question is we're ama- well sometimes i had to do last week four four different places in four different nice but it is it is strange when you wake up and you're kind of you're kind of feeling the wall to see where you are but i ah the one thing about what i'm doing right now is <hes> a lot of this is elective so <hes> it's my choice and i'm i'm pretty thrilled to be doing. I <hes> two more things that you appreciate it. <hes> thank you and on squirrel squirrel have something in common. We were all at the north texas tennessee game doing all my goodness yeah brutal by the way i was. I was a student of it was pretty early. My career tennessee. I remember my buddies and and i think some heavy alcohol intake was going on most of most of my section. We're up in the upper deck. That may be an intersection. They were <hes>. We were doing <hes> the team. I think well buddy of mine kind of where the coach yeah he get a swan dive down a couple of rows. Also hey one last thing what is it you know your your s._e._c. Nation scheduled for the next few weeks i do not i i know this week. It's missouri and after that i it is still somewhat up in the era. I thought we were going to the alabama game in columbia. That may be rerouted. Oh man if if you're going there i gotta go just to to meet cat daddy. No i think there's another the big game that week so <hes> i know there were two games under consideration kentucky florida in alabama south carolina. If i had to bed it would probably not involve south carolina right now here you. Hey i appreciate you taking my call have good night. Thank you great to hear from you. I'm an is up next. Hey i'm good good afternoon paul. How's it going. It's going really good good. You know you're not something uncommon to actually talk to jimmy from chicago on the phone for our whereafter your show and i talked to coach and i've talked to coach for about our i don't know what are you talking about coach. I really like coaches pretty cool. Guy i mean you know he he coached at a at a different level in basketball and and he saw things were changing and you went and got real-life job and it's very successful and and he's about our overages great guy as is jimmy from chicago. I don't have to come on here and shut twitter. Handle it and all that kind of stuff. I don't need all that. I mean just regular guys but paul. Oh you know if i was looking back in grading football from what i've seen from thursday to monday night. I have to say that a lot of these teams. I was just kind of went through the motions. They really didn't prepare to play football and i know that everything changes from week one because everybody's going try to figure things <music> out if you will these are professional coaches professional schools professional facilities above and beyond what average person goes to the wise and and and i i would think that there was only two or three schools that really prepared for their opponents and it's obvious that auburn tigers set there and prepared. You didn't see leave the coach stock in the quarterback colin screaming. It was a learning session. The entire game and auburn overcame the first half. I heard you say yesterday. Somebody made it comment that the argument players said that auburn the best team didn't always win and you disagree with that but you certainly had different outlook after the auburn game last year you're when auburn won that game and they just kept themselves in a position to win. It and that's what auburn did the other night. They played outstanding football whole nation saw. It and i'm telling you what l._s._u. L._s._u. came out throwing haymakers and l._s._u. Is a team that is prepared for the season and they look like they know who they are where they're going win and they didn't waste no time in the game the other day because they've got that got a schedule coming up. That's going to set up nice form as his auburn auburn has and this alabama has and maybe a._m. And it's gonna be interesting to see how those four teams workout but paul. I know there's a lot of conversation about the tennessee game. Do you remember when <hes> silvester crews. Mississippi state and main came down to start bill and beat them. I do remember that yeah yeah and and you know not think all conversation is that where the saying remember the main came from. I i'm not sure but you know the conversation you and i had the mississippi state players should have been big enough and better than anything main brought to the table at their house and coach themselves elves and call their their own place but i think it's obvious at tennessee has made some more recruiting and it's it's. I don't think that tennessee loss speaks about the entire s._e._c. I think it speaks more towards georgia state at that particular time in bay and it's great win for them. I hate it for tennessee fans but it's some point they will get better. It may not be this season and the same thing with south carolina tennessee and south carolina or have got a long season in front of them and and all during off season it was malzahn how many games she got a win. You know he's on the hot seat hot seat hot seat. I man you can keep continuing but we're going to take a break.

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40 for 40, 2019 Edition: Alternative National Championship Games

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40 for 40, 2019 Edition: Alternative National Championship Games

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Lessons Allen's All stay stay orchestra for several years of this is they're saying fine and I also played the veal. I still play the Pano for fun and I picked up the recorder just to see what would happen. Nothing good is the answer. I don't think that's embarrassed. Nothing you do as a team in is like not not embarrassed embarrassing right really good time playing music as a team. That's just really funny that I can't play their quarter. I I gotcha okay. I do know that Alex MacDill autopart but outs mcdaniel is also a classically trained flattest but Lissouba. Yeah that's just one more thing we all have in common but she's too cowardly to send us her own shutdown forecast theme. Yeah I don't even have our have actual instruments in my home except for the a piano like my flutes are all packed at my parents house. But I did buy this recorder after spotting it at Guitar Center during an emergency Gear Ron right before Charlotte Show Spencer. What is your musical background? If any musical background so yeah I did. I played trumpet for are think since fourth grade. Okay yeah play trumpet since Fourth Grade and then wrote it was called in Tennessee. That thing Riyadh to go to the hotel and live just playing an for junior clinic something like that and then senior client. Yeah I was Matt thing. I was in marching band and I played French Horn. If we got you a trumpet compet like next week. Do you think you can play trumpet. Teasing Bang out the focused name on it. Do this is such a small office. I would much. It's rather a play on these sousaphone. If that's an option share can we get that because I can play that to Jason. What is your musical background I was in various Loud punk metal rage against the machine. You were excetera bands dams. No no we know this about you know. It's ask that that part is not not accurate. Don't listen to her things up right now. What what was your role in these pants? Hollarin' so no I I can't I can't give you any instrumentation. I can I. Can I can finger drum yep so I think you have actually did you use a voice Fox now a natural. Did you get the grit. Naturally no I did not use a voice box and this was not booed off stage right so I think that's actually I think that's one of the most difficult forms of singing. His death metal singing right any kind of rare are like that's a real skill. Definitely emphasis on the difficult I'm not saying it's good a worthwhile. Well six really hard to do. He has difficult and hard. Yeah as far as skill. I don't know but definitely hard difficult thing. I don't know if the main thing is you know they they tell you Singh from your from your diaphragm and all that and that applies when you're when you're shouting and screaming as well because if you are singing from your throat and what you're doing instead of singing thing is as you are like Doing some sort of hell growl shredding your throat. But you can get away with it if you're doing it from your lungs. I never ever figured out how to do that so I would. Just you know foretaste co what are you doing Nelson Pointer under sisters songs. It's really long. Jump for my love from her Ryan. Do you have any musical background whatsoever. I have no musical training whatsoever. I can play like some stuff on the piano by ear but I can't read music of never learned how to play any Any instrument the best. I can do I was the lead antagonised in our middle school musical. which was is an unlicensed knockoff? Of little shop of horrors And I if you still have napster Mr and you know the right terms to find you can probably find a homemade rap song that I appeared on in high school will. The search begins Francophiles Ryan contact us. We are going to find this. So here's the problem. I I as I recall. I think it was put on the put on lime wire or napster. Whatever within intentionally misleading lake? 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Same there's there's the hat which looks either like a a An sort of third-party federal agency. I like the F. D. N. Y.. Shirt you get for somebody WHO's like you've never fought a fire in your your life sir. Or Ma'am or it kind of looks like the hat they like. If you squint it sort of looks like a bad die hard sequel sequel title. I think it kind of looks like one of those nineteen ninety-one height pats right. Oh that's good like like a you can just alternate slightly so says pepe. Yeah or can I also point out that there are more than just four hats because if he'll go to the cow bucker website. You will see the each hat. Says things like the Banner Society Collection. Each of these types of hats is available in several different color ways. That's true yes yes. These are are multiplying. The base models Hats are multiplying before our very eyes We had twitter user Hallo spell the LSU Su Way Newman ask how the other night for a better society era sack. Tom had in LSU colors and they had it up on the site in minutes announced announced there. Yeah sack time is one of the other one of the options here. Right now comes in Michigan. Colors are blue and whites and Lsu Purple and gold and then probably probably the like the sneaky best pick of them all is is The Hat with twenty five snake emojis on it. Oh a extremely classy hat. If I may say so myself the one that I have have actually considered wearing even though with any baseball type cap or trucker cap. I look like an enormous disturbed fourth grader. Somebody did point out that this should come with one of the One of the snakes should be like Velcro so that you can move it and replace it if you you want to three D. leather state. I think they can make that happen for you. I have heard that they can So those if you order by right December nineteenth some some hats on the site say December twentieth. I wouldn't chance it December nineteenth. If you get your order and they we'll ship your they will ship your order Priority Mail. It will get there by Christmas. What better way to tell someone you love them than by giving them a hat that says sack time sack term? I mean Kinda right. I think I think the best way to do. This is to give it to somebody. Somebody who has never listened to our podcast doesn't even like college football. Just give it to them and film their reaction and send it to US please buddy. It's December. Remember we don't like college football it's a it's an. It's an invitation to join someone in the bedroom right. Wow second it's kind of this Leon The leap yeah right. Also please. If any time to rest if anyone listening to this is planning on on committing a robbery on camera. But I'll means where one of these free Promo for. What is what is Santa Kerry toys in Faculty Condole Pass? Not a his Duffel duffle bags and it's just a roof oboe. It's it was sad. A wondering Chimney Hobo. Christmas is literally sack time. Oh it's sack. Is the fall of Rome sack time I am. You can't tell the visigoths sacks cat. It's like Deacon Jones Fourteenth Place Thirteen through one all various visigoths on this episode. We're going to be previewing seven in bowl games of Oh it's forty four forty. Where's my Voted every time she does that. I feel like I just fail. The kings quest game. You Die David Graham. I would say these Games are varying prominence and importance but yeah matter so the first time around. We did the pre-christmas bowls that is a clear consistent theme easy to define you look at a calendar time flows in one direction at least as far as humans can can perceive it so these those games were easy to group we simply Zelda unless you are Dr Manhattan formerly human. He's it's not even licensed doesn't know a damn thing about college football then later on we do have groups of bowls that also They have specific things in common. What do today's ballgame have in common? They have in common that they have nothing in common. I have labeled these the grab bag bowls and Ryan has actually found a way to talk about about these cans so so at first blush you can look at some of these games say there are some interesting mix of Sun here that in a different timeline these this could have been very high stakes games. The Rose Bowl is on here with Oregon Wisconsin even a game even the cotton bowl of Medicine Penn state. It's like yeah. That probably wasn't isn't the most likely playoff matchup but it wasn't an impossible one. Not all of the Games are going to do at that. But that's the The game we're going to play today. Hey is we're going to go through these bowls and we are going to try to convince two thousand nine selves that the game we are describing is actually the national championship in two thousand eighteen. This we gotta entertain ourselves somehow yes So Holly you get to go first with the cotton bowl of gross. Pretend you're talking to two thousand nine you and explain how twenty in two thousand nineteen Penn State Status Playing Memphis for the national title. First of all I feel obligated to address the setting the way to get here. The Path to at this bit of history is via realignment. The big ten has wealth teams. The big twelve has ten Missouri's in the Goddamn Sec. For some reason of course we're not playing playing the cotton bowl in the cotton bowl anymore. The enormous television screen in the stadium can be explained and should be explained in actual reality. The as a very shiny symptom of our species slide towards future best described in wally As for our competitors Penn state date. It's two thousand nine. I just witnessed lane kiffin. Turn Jonathan Crompton into a draftable. NFL quarterback and bail on his own press conference to head to USC see. I am in a very susceptible place to believe. Good things are happening to people. Like deeply dislike. Of course James Franklin is at this time if I recall correctly Ralph regions head coach in waiting But I trust me. MEMPHIS is even easier. Tell me Memphis this. Join the SEC. In the coming wave of realignment and that Steve Spurrier used tricks he learned at the South Carolina state legislature to keep USC and Clemson in separate separate conferences to lobby for Memphis to join the SEC. In Place of Missouri placing a third team and in-state media market in the same state as Tennessee life and shifting Tennessee's recurring focus to the defensive and towards the West. I still will not be able to find it in my heart to truly resent him but again again I trust me it is it is easier to buy the In like in two thousand nine. It's easier to buy Memphis in the SEC. Them Missouri. Yes can I just say that in two thousand nineteen that is still the case for me. It's fine this is also defied. Wow okay spencer you get you get a little bit of a harder one. I do I do I am I am tasked with the gator bowl presenting the two thousand. And Twenty gator bowl. which is the Indiana hoosiers versus? Does the Tennessee volunteers to two thousand nine me. WHO has just watched Indiana struggle to another very Indiana ish season and and watch Tennessee enduring up and down first year under head coach Lane Kiffin? It's not as it's it's I'm GonNa tell you this it's a long hike is not impassable okay because Tennessee Tennessee's actually pretty easy all right because blanketed coming out of year one. Forget a lot of things that you know about lane kiffin our how it goes in two thousand nine Lane Kiffin is coming off of a thunderous under entry a tumultuous year on the field where the almost beat eventual nationals Heidel Alabama in a twelve. Ten struggle interrupted only only Bhai terrence cody blocking a couple of kicks as mentioned by Holly Jonathan. Crompton has an excellent season testimony to testimony to who lane kiffin powers as a QB whisper and potential magnet for talent under center by the way a demonstrated magnet for talent across off-the-field because Tennessee calls the number eight recruited number eight recruiting class in the country. Wherever they've got Janet Jackson bryce Brown David Oku the new case Richardson? It's GONNA be fine. It's going to be good and potentially could be great and if you told me in two thousand. I should've taken this game just to prevent you from taking this. I kinda figured you would be honest if you told me. Hey this cocky bastard. He's actually get Tennessee someplace. Where in two thousand the nineteen? They end up in a national title game. I'm Mike Believe it's not an insane thing to consider they. Also we didn't know any gift it right. You didn't know that was going to happen. We had a pretty good idea. Sweet you know he was. You didn't know now. The two thousand nine season is over. We have an idea. Yeah but we also we also had a part of it was we. We had filtered a lot of it through Al Davis severe. Like Al Davis is a crazy man. Yeah also this he he leaves he leaves for USC in early Twenty Tent Right. He leaves in January so we don't know all that stuff yet we just know that it was uh it was down. He said a lot of crazy stuff that got a lot of talent the pipeline there. Sec C C team. It's not an impossible bit right. It two thousand nine. You would have really believed that every. SCC team shy of Vanderbilt was capable of winning a national title. I that's how high I would. I would not have believed that. No I think you remembering this a little kid and I don't think I would have believed that about Mississippi state in two thousand Arkansas Jesus or old mess onus yeah other were not or were other than Georgia just lost Jonathan Crompton by the way other than all nine thousand asses against Georgia looked great. Do you So I I'm honestly more concerned about this occasional reminder that link in his undefeated all-time versus Margaret. I have to prove to two thousand and nine nine me the Indiana mixed national title game. So do you do now. What Indiana's record wasn't two thousand nine? They were four. We're in seven. Do not how many points. They Lost Virginia by Virginia by blue. Thirty seven points right. It's yeah now it's forty points. I'm pretty sure reports. Yeah okay okay. So do you know how many points I do know how many points they lost to Wisconsin. Oh cranked Wisconsin by I consonant. By three they lost northwestern by one and they lost ballyhooed power of the Conference Michigan by three points which Michigan team never mind a tournament issues. Again team okay and I know I know that it is a long walk doc but one can get their one connects enough dots and those dots while not close our not so distant as to be impossibly reached. Okay because we are working backup under Bill Lynch. Who has I think? Four Games within a a single score. That could have gone the other way. Oy could've taken them to an eight win team. If I told you an eight win Indiana team you would assume some mystical magical things were happening. And that may be an extension further into the stratosphere. His fear of nine or ten wins might not be completely insane. Please note my phrase. I didn't say realistic. I just said you can see it from here. But the air's real fan and I I don't have enough oxygen to get there because I'm Indiana right. I'm used to being. Also you got a real big head. I got a real pig. Head needs a lot of oxygen. Defeat it right FID had you wear by the way seven five eight so I said it was closer to eight I. I thought it was like eight and a quarter. I think it's like a nine cowboy hat is closer day because Jason and I were talking about this. I mentioned tried station. Listen we're talking about hats and for whatever reason we were talking about big hats and I mentioned the time I tried on Spencer's cowboy hat in realized At stepped into a whole new world of big hats. Like it comes down around your ears. Yeah yeah the cowboy hat has to be a little larger. I'm not real sure what it is about. Come with it but it's closer to an eight. Okay sorry please continue so India like me. The large headed the large headed. Oxygen starved huge head. That that can see where where it wants to go but can't quite get there now if I told you to that the future in two thousand nine for every power in the big ten was looking rocky looking vague looking kind of unknown and looking. Like maybe there'd be a lane of opportunity for a Moonshot of an Indiana team to sneak in there. It's there were hitting toward the end of the trestle era where things are getting kind of stale at Ohio state. We're hitting Michigan in trouble. You're Hittin Penn State. You know in kind of Eh transitional state if you will right and there's Wisconsin who Wisconsin under Bret Bielema while solid not exactly the Not exactly a complete given terms of dynastic potential there in other words. The big ten is a complete mess and one year of variants at the high end. Could put Indiana Indiana in the catbird seat. So I'm not I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying bill. Lynch in Indiana can't get there without some serious look. I'm also not saying given the landscape in two thousand nine not completely impossible. There's there's one other wrinkle in your favor you're can convince two thousand nine you at the big ten. Because they're so tradition. Obsessed by into has a nineteen still doesn't have a conference championship game and therefore Indiana through a combination a nation of scheduling. Lock and close wins. Won The big ten with some tiebreaker. Harsh it and made it to the national championship and or there is like ticket. They had some sort of repeat rose bowl rule in shit. Indiana hasn't been in forever. They have to go. I was also say that Bro. There's there's is one problem with your mask because you said India was gonna dot is and that's our thing. Oh boy so play it on the recorder. Can I tell what I don't know how knows goes loud as you can. Yeah Yeah All right go ahead Spencer. Now don't don't do the song. No I won't do this on. Why would I do that? That Ebi Awful. If somebody actually pulled the song now I will. It's gotTa do a title gave because we we were on probation kind stuff by tattoos and asked tattoos native. CAST THE BUCKS INDIANA. You know us. That's our title Good Joe Borough for nine. I like that I like that Ryan Day went to the heisman ceremony. Looking like Santa's Las Vegas Enforcer. He cut his healing as a fashion person. It is kind of right at haunted doll. Yes Anyway Ato. That's yeah that's a rough moment. I can't believe you're disrespecting expecting Ryan Day like this after we've talked about the bucks so much other deadly sorry. Yeah also that's my. That's my other key here is that yeah maybe a couple of people got a probation. Let's be let's keep it real Indiana. Are you going to get to a national title game out of the big ten. You'RE GONNA need somebody to get in trouble you'll need a school. That's enough of toadying like boot. Lick power as Ohio state who will say Oh. NCWA we're real. Sorry about the cash will cooperate with your investigation because the police Lisa always right the place our troops so the police our troops and we respect troops. Yeah they have very similar outfits. They couldn't calm home state troopers if they're not troops. We WanNA play. We WanNA play gigs of bright way. Yup Meanwhile Indiana do crime uh-huh. MBNA totally do crime please. This episode of the shutdown forecast is sponsored by calm the number one APP for sleep and and meditation. 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I didn't didn't prepare this the to to to to to to to do things like Melinda tomorrow. Wait for Hewlett. Come in you know. Found out long ago. Long way down to the holiday holiday But I thought it just felt wrong. Not they do it again. This is a commune type. Very it is in your advertisement. Could be right here if you've ever seen if you've never seen seeing the music video to that don't it's very disturbing was singularly disturbing. Please take take us away for the holiday bowl here. The holiday bowl this year's USC Iowa which is not like a huge stretch to come up with as a national championship game It's it will will be funny if twenty nineteen me Goes back until two thousand nine me like hey one of these teams has gotten very close to a playoff appearance. Guess which one it was but I won't. I won't do that instead. I will tell two thousand nine me. This is what happened to USC Z.. So oh nine is Pete Carroll's last year in southern California but this is what I'm going to change the NC NC double A.. Investigation into Reggie Bush and what other inducements happening at. USC actually doesn't result in any penalties. For your let's see to the contrary it goes the other way and it becomes the case where the NC double A. Looks upon itself and decides. You know what this is all ridiculous. We're we're going to kill amateurism we're going to make recruiting an open. Market that means peak carol stays at USC because obviously he and his crew have a head start. Start on how to do this whole thing. They continue crushing it. They continue dominating the PAC twelve and being national power. No surprise there but this is actually really much better for the Iowa Hawkeyes. Now at this point they're already winning like eight to ten games a year consistently now they start taking farm subsidy money to lure in recruits and Kirk farance takes a hard hard left turn when he becomes incredibly flashy he starts referring to himself as the Silos Sultan and big daddy grain. He openly tries tries to bribe referees mid Games. I didn't want to go first. He drinks champagne after turnovers and nobody can do anything. Because America loves him but sadly after two of the two thousand eighteen season he dies on the operating table after asking a doctor to replace all of his bodily fluids with liquefied platinum them so he could quote bleed rich motivated to honor his memory. Iowa goes undefeated and faces. USA In the National Championship game By the way I WANNA point out that if kirk ferrets had died then he really had passed. And we're glad he didn't of course still with us we've value all life all life. No but kirk parents if he had passed away after the two thousand three season Really you would have only had one more half conference championship than he does now. 'cause remember Yeah Kirk Fans WanNa half of he want a piece of a big ten conference title the two thousand four and then they started signed just started throwing money and you know you know what you've gotten since then nothing no and no one wants out some outback. They have Lebron's pig most of the time that I can find him abroad thing for less than four year. I want a broil. You that's awesome. I have one ugly at one and share it. I'll give you a on back and forth among each other like our own rivalry. Yeah whoever is. Whoever is the most dominant on the PODCASTS? At I don't know how I would. Actually I would actually love if Godfrey Jason's changed to the check in back to their own personal floyd. That's a good idea. What is going to get a big bronze chicken? Stir two thousand five every year. I could gone in and Riverside Iowa for mortgage payment on the big ten title game and come out a winner for fifteen years. We can also surprise him with the chicken because there's no no way. He's listening. Surprised chicken you Janet Jackson Song. What have you done for me lately? When she's like? Nancy entered dancing shoes user. Always on my couch Kirk Fair tenure in Iowa is what if I liked that and I were Jennifer checks to know. This is really hurting the chances that will be able to sell the big daddy grain shirts I've designed so thanks. I think we've Kirk it's more like what haven't I not done for you. She hasn't gone four and a true. I also like Ryan your scenario here where Pete stays This means lane is stuck at Tennessee for a long time. What did you take the seahawks job? Okay let's get the death penalty. 'CAUSE 'cause he he takes the seahawks job so the NFL is like Yep one year good enough give him another shot. That's right. He takes the seahawks job. The seahawks beat the Patriots in that Super Bowl. It's so shameful for Tom. Brady and bill bell check that they both retire and refused to publicly comment ever again and the NFL becomes James. A kind of a wonderland like the it's a copycat league in the Okapi Lane. That's right they're all looking for their everyone's looking for their own lane kiffin and they usually earlier looking somewhere near a ski ball machine. Get your lanes gift. Got The the rams moved to Fresno it's the cradle could still. Yeah let's not count that out. Actually the chargers would move to Fresno the chargers could move anywhere. GUMMY Jason you have the hardest one on. Yeah you have the hardest Yes I have claimed the biggest challenge. We're going to start with the easiest element here. I'll break it down. Piece by piece. The likeliest national title participant. Here's ears Ford Field in Detroit. Yeah host the quick lane ball the time it was the Papa John's ball rip Newly opened Super Bowl Rav the final for. I'm not the Papa John's bull now because then they could do a forty pizzas in thirty days challenge. Shit who can we can the the Bible that is that is correct in Interjection at the beginning of that Jason. How shift yeah we do it? There is pizza related trauma mm associated with disbelief because recall it for years. The only pizza available inside the little caesars Bowl was hungry. Howie's right your digestive tract would would be a godforsaken wasteland after forty pizzas thirty days? That's an interesting choice to use the subjunctive their spencer. Can we talk about that. Sure the thing that I Remain unclear about of this claim Papa. John made on local television to a news. Anchor for no reason whatsoever when he wasn't required to also display of dominance. So there a couple of things at work here one. Do you think it's possible that Papa John was like Shouldn't tell the truth. Dial it down under forty and the truth is somewhere north of that second if you believe he was telling the truth. What was the spread? Do you think these were like evenly divided into at one point however many pizzas you know t to pizzas every three days or whatever or do you think he. These were like in fits since starts at one end saying bender like high intensity interval training but for pizza in your body. Do you think he was like eight pizzas today. Oh I got asleep asleep in three days so high intensity interval training. Hi It just add an s at the front of that. I I really think that after this many years of this much personal quality control and pizza the John Natter can do unnatural things that his gastrointestinal track. I think he can just eat a pizza. I think that's just I don't know if you have a food. The did you have an unusual capacity for. I think everyone does right when they say oh. Don't leave those around me. I'll eat the whole box. It's usually not a joke. It's usually because that person knows. Yeah my body for some reason. KANEDA's zillion branch flavored crackers. Or whatever right yeah Tuxedos. Yeah what's that for you right. What's the one thing that you go? I just I can house it no matter how. It is This is this is very there is very dumb little dove ice ice cream bars. Yeah you can eat like twenty of them right. Yeah I can eat a whole box around with those are. They're they're just little like you can just get him in public so whatever they're just little like it's kind of like a fun size sized candy bar but it's got a so that sounds extraordinarily dangerous. Yeah you could just house like thirty thirty of them no problem. Yeah Jason. You have something that you go. Yeah I could just eat like a pound of those into doesn't do anything Yeah I'll often do a whole pizza. Yeah okay so often often but you know speeds it as often as possible heart smart yep and then go and then go for a walk. That'll fix it dental. Show you buster for me. It's cake I can eat him. Bear no I can I like I like my mom wants a my mom wants. Put a whole sheet cake out like. Oh Hey I'm making a sheet cake for a party and I was fourteen discovered superpower mine than I can eat. I can just eat an lighten. It does debt me. I get that feeling of Oh man. Blood sugars just raced ninety to go lay okay down. You're such a Saint Bernard I know if you leave it out. I'm like I'm going to eat the whole thing and I'm not even gonNA feel bad care because I'm like you should have known Spencer's got a got a cake. Glow about him. What if Beethoven got into social media that would rule first of all the Ryen? You're just Charles Grodin chasing behind me. Oh huge nineties Charles. Grodin Energy Outta Ryan home. I can't believe you ate. This whole sheet started it. I want you to know this is the worst I've ever felt on this. PODCAST was a store store. He was in the Great Muppet Gaber. Beethoven try to ball John Popper Blues Traveler. Beethoven learned to speak any sucking the John ADB opera about his deck. Yeah that's K- I can down. I can like if you put down an entire velvet cake in front of me. Like I mean a frosted two two year Red Velvet Cake Charles Eighty. or It's GonNa be God'll I think we've found twitch programming suspensory cake in the name of the show it entirely you say. SC Say to yourself keep some wedding cake or look we get one slice of wet. Nope no for the wedding. I ate the wedding. I didn't so when I I didn't have cake at my wedding. You must have been furious. No but you had at least a funny brought his own orients associated with Alpert Noah for my own like. What's your what's your plus one? This gay Spencer's got a flask. Full of cake just like a little squeeze bottle of frosting the Alabama the Kentucky. I went to ivy of cake now into a Real Fancy Kentucky Derby Gary Party wants and DMC was there like Darryl mcdaniels DMC he was eating pedal floors and Darryl daily work performer. DMC Yes and DMC and it was like the nicest guy we talked about. How good pettifor were and I know? He's a really nice dude because he watched me eat like twelve petty fours off off of this thing and I didn't say anything. He didn't seem like an. I was eating in a bit like the New England Patriots offensive line was in the room and people people were looking at me like that guy could put it away. They probably thought you were an athlete. When it comes to I am plenty forty? I've have now picturing like an alternative version of hot ones but instead of a sliver. It's a celebrity being interviewed interviewed by Spencer and seeing how long they can watch them. Eat cake tap out after like to know this celebrity never gets any cake. They're just watching Spencer He. They're eating a salad whilst Spencer takes downtown cakes now I really have like a you know when they say what do Baresi when they break into places like man bear could drink like thirty two thirty two beers and it doesn't even affect me. Beer doesn't really get drawn. I can drink like thirty beers and it doesn't really affect me. They're like man the bury the pair totally trashed in eight. LEXA tire bakery. Fuller cake relatable. What else eat a whole cake is a Sim? Kim I sit there I am. -creased my charisma. By talking in the mirror very confidently stuff myself. Offer twenty gigs now. You don't. Yeah and then he pisses on the floor and then someone puts four couches around me and die. He dies in a swimming pool and a dime the swimming pool full happy. Then you'll be fine. So Detroit Detroit. We can get you that part we can get this title game in Detroit. That's plausible. No problem there. You know what happened. Did you stole my drink. Oh I don't make I swore I was going to be so. Hey like materialized. Case they own. He opened like a dresser drawer and pull back. He cast his own drink reached across just took mine nine students at the next live Shag on the table. You hear a lot of cake bag on the table and you hear the zip no Spencer. You're joking but I promise you. Somebody's somebody's going to bring at a minimum a slice of cake to the next live show and you will eat it on stage. It's absolutely no chance. I am not housing housing. That live of the show. Yeah great great putting a title game in Detroit. We'll have pizza with cake. It the kids will love it. I was GonNa say this Labor. It'll be alright party next on. This is scheduled tonight and tire bakery bricks. All next step on. The degree of difficulty is two thousand nine. Hit if you look at two thousand nine pit. Do you see a future national champion. Here's the argument that you do. Do you see a team that went in the season a missed pat against a really good Cincinnati. A forty three yard field goal at the Buzzer against West Virginia. And a Russell Wilson some touchdown away from going undefeated and finishing in the top four They had gone nine and for the year prior. They had beaten number two West Virginia. The report Prior to that this is a good program at this point. And they're in a conference where they're going to get a lot of quality wins they are averaging their highest recruiting rankings. Things For your run ever. They're averaging atop twenty five class for for some schools. That's bad for pit that's great. It'll take that you had the stability of a Dave want wants stat regime regime going on I look back at at time. I tried to find the first ever person who tweeted a Dave wants. That looks like joke. Doc I found this from user the three network in two thousand nine hundred the very first ever quote watching weekend at Bernie's does anyone else else. Think Bernie looks like Dave once I yes. I'm not white enough to watch this movie. But I understand Bernie is the dead guy correct wreck of watch this movie repeatedly. Yes he does resemble Dave Okay but despite being a dead Guy Dave one stat can lead fucking program Grand Pal to the National Championship. At any point in the following decade pit was ninth in the BCS rankings at one point this yeah sure God damn yeah. The big east was kind of a housing bubble. Isn't that like we're UCF topped out. I don't even think they let him up at eight. That went okay. That's good yeah right around there. Yeah this is the year that Cincinnati he was number three and like if Mack Brown hadn't been a time Lord Cincinnati might have gone to the national title game by fifty billion points but Yeah also also on his coaching staff. You Have Future Boston College head coach. Jeff Athlete Future One pit interim coach Phil Bennett. This is a loaded group So all right here is the hard part in twenty. Nineteen Quick Lane. Bowl is facing eastern turn Michigan And I have to get Eastern Michigan into a national title game and do it against Pitt so Ryan when I was reading the stipulations. Yes I noticed a word missing again. What you wrote down? You stipulated have to get these two schools into a title game did not I'd say fiesta. You did oh I was gonna say I didn't say F. B. S. so you're saying pit drops down in sodas EMU That would be that would be too easy. We're going even more difficult okay So emus best sports are. It's MAC dynasties in men's swimming and men's track meanwhile now pitt has made a swimming nationals. Six Times in Had six times in that decade so not the most impossible thing in the world. Both teams made the the two thousand eighteen volleyball tournament and Dave wants that has amazing swim coach energy. I Bet I bet that mustache looks great. Great soaking wet. If you told me Dave wants that was wearing swimtrunks at all times like those guys who are basketball shorts dinner clothes yes us one hundred percent believe you does. He were swim trunks under his basketball shorts under his Khakis and under that as a wrestling singlet that's correct that's making a wrestling pit. Wrestling is a typically been a top twenty or so program and EMU has has cut wrestling or so. You thought her they come from the rafters cash in the briefcase. Wow that's how it works in wrestling. EMU's lash national title. Was the two thousand five heptathlon by Layla Nelson Pity cannot really compare to that. I say we just see what James counter can do in the Path uh-huh They have both finished in the top two in club. Roller Hockey and pit is number one in the nation in cities that would most like a factory factory themed football field with a cinderblock entrance and EMU already has one one two in those rankings. Doesn't doesn't em you. We also have the Dick Building. Yeah so we here I actually. I didn't learn. They have multiple we. I thought I had identified the Dick Building. And we we got multiple tweets that were like no the other one and meanwhile pit also has a large valid building on campus. What's happening then? I'll just delete the episode. No always recklessly. Recklessly soared into focused. We had were left. She's at that was like I've seen enough Parang. I'm still I'm still rolling to the phrase. Hi Dave go ahead holly just playing us off like it's the fucking Oscar Day wants to win court punch. You gotta work on your birthday burder flyer. Okay here's one try. Four hundred meter relay hundred meter roller. Darna the I Berger cortex Turner for the swimmer. I call it the four hundred afer. They don't get you ready for this swim with this hot mustard. Repeats are in there but Pittsburgh swim. Witches journey says he had forty beaches derby days me. That's that's a woah word. He's trying to make weight for Russell and season. You put the pictures the single it like that. The part of the part of this That I believe most is that a day. Once that coached every sport at Pitt in two two thousand nine and the part that I like best is that by suggesting that it would be a national championship in wrestling wrestling. Jason has stumbled upon the part of this podcast. That will accidently make Penn state fans the maddest. So could shaw sure sure. Yeah I said Ah shut down. Forecast is sponsored by home field apparel. who have been our sponsors for so long at this point? Can you hear Ryan quaking. He's quaking because because I don't even need a script for this ad read. That's how long they've been sponsoring us. We have sold. I am proud to say hundreds of Homefield t shirts. Since beginning. Our association with them with podcast played nobody with Banner Society. And you guys. We couldn't be happier another reason. I don't need a script for this Ad. Read is because this. 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Two Thousand Nine Michigan State. You didn't have a A great year under Mark Dantonio in his third or fourth season or something like that. So Mama came Colin for WHO. That's right ty Willingham. mm-hmm recently graduated Michigan State. Recent recently relieved of duties at Washington. Two thousand nine wake forest forest. You're in I believe you're seven of the gym grow experiment you get over. That should as well and you go out. And you find a hot doc name that has just hit the market. You Hire Phillip Fulmer these two. Oh they get to these programs and they take their time they. It's a slow building ending process. These are schools that are willing to be patient. They're not expecting big results right away but the truth is they are both secretly working working on something else revenge. They spend the next eight or so years helping the FBI build an airtight corruption case against the shoe companies. He's an college athletics. Not just basketball but football and even golf and at the end of it the NC ablaze forced to put every school on probation bation except to the ones led by brave undercover agents ty Willingham and fell fomer. Now they have a problem problem. They have nowhere to play the national championship game. Because they're all college football or pro football stadiums who comes to the rescue. The New York Yankees and that is how we get a twenty nine thousand nine National Championship in the Yankee Stadium featuring the Michigan State spartans and the wake forest demon deacons gins this horrifying. This is the only way I could get their holly. You get to do the The Red box man I guess so. Let's let's roll back and address the terrible terrible setting setting once again It's it's easy to see why the red box bowl could take over as title game in my scenario by the way the the red box bowl is it's not I just a cow Illinois National Championship game. It's being played as the red box bowl but it's easy to see why that could happen. It is played in Santa Clara. In Levi's Levi's stadium famously decried by us as the world's largest outdoor old navy outlet store but without the charm and it's sponsored fittingly by red box a company. That Likely Vice Stadium wants you to have sad lonely evenings without interacting with anybody and both experiences France's also remind you that you really could be home streaming Geo Storm Instead Geo Storm Geo Storm. No no you're right. beat now makes them excited. I usually am thank you right in cal- in two thousand nine. We were probably still using total offenses a stat. So tell me the history of till two thousand me the history of the past decade of cal football exactly as it happened and then tell tell me that them. An Illinois are hundred seventeenth at one hundred nineteenth nationally in yards per game this year member. It's two thousand nine. I will believe total offense. Tell me there was a slow sludgy decline towards this sort of football since the Bama Lsu title game and that this is the devolutionary result result as far as Illinois Look Recount the history of Illinois Football. Exactly as it happened and then show me love. His beard told me Curt Farris is still at Iowa breath. show-me that lovey looks. Like some sort of tree apocalyptic prophet right now and I don't believe anything and also just realized you could convince me that this is now the Rosebowl Rosebowl because when you tell me what else is going on in two thousand nineteen it will be easier than anything to believe in any other dystopia scenario. You WanNa throw at me including being the rosebowl being torn down in the red box. Bowl being the Rosbach's bolt now. Dr Didn't it -gratulations. Winter is bad. And it's here go Illinois. Football sure I I think that leaves. I'm trying to see. Oh a small bowl Called the Rose Bowl for which has just been destroyed. which doesn't exist in Holly's timeline? But that's fate but no fate but that which we make so you know we're taking it back. Custody thrive at my friend in my life. So you're actually probably the easiest task now. I have the easiest one and and also might say despite the ease one one of the richest comic potentials of any of them. Yes like Beethoven just like Beethoven speaking a big old dog speaking speaking the Great David Duchovny Movies Bret Bielema Micro Bret Bielema the movie. Because because I have to tell someone in two thousand nine that Wisconsin catches a couple breaks which I think Wisconsin have to catch because vitality Wisconsin's attend Zan win team. No but he flinches by tell you. Wisconsin is a twelve win team Some eyebrows go up but still possible because Bret Bielema showing real signs lines progress as head coach in two thousand nine. Arkansas hasn't happened yet Wisconsin is doing exactly the same thing that they've always John and they still do. They run the daylights out of the ball. They have a bunch fat guys on every single corner of that line and they just try to like plow people into the turf. Nfl I told you. Hey you know coming out of the big ten. They catch a couple of breaks and they end up in a national title game. In two thousand nineteen with the August and well entrenched and I you say well entrenched as in a giant piece of artillery buried in the earth as he should be read Bielema the man Canon of all manned cannons sitting there in Madison Wisconsin Johnson fire in his fired. His volleys all over the big ten ounces enemies. Yeah Yeah Gross. Did get way grosses. I than cheesy has just big big Bertha fired wheels cheese everywhere at ten thousand meters eaters. A second toward the enemy yeah. I'm just picturing the final boss and Super Mario too few bow on Bela's head three times you'll receive three moons. Yeah this is. This is plausible because we just in order to make this happen. Theoretically say Bret Bielema is very Alvarez. Partout hard to write bear Barry Alvarez barrier. That's really what this is and that's not. I think too hard to imagine neither by the way Z.. Opposing side of this rose bowls two thousand twenty Rose Bowl. It's going to happen because that's the Oregon ducks in two thousand nine and they were in an even better spot and chip Kelly. Chip Kelly wasn't going anywhere. That's a revolutionary college coach. He's just GonNa stay embedded there. What a deal? What by? What more more could that man want out of life right because the two thousand nine ten and three? They have some quarterback issues but the next year they made the national title game. They they were on the way up. They were changing the wind. Sports play this is the most plausible part of any of these scenarios. I think is to say oh. Twenty nineteen chip Kelly still there just beaten ass. Oregon is year in year out. A competitor at the national level certainly would have been the smarter path for Chip Kelly. As point you know so maybe yeah no like. Wasn't that fun to be the coach that eagles fans hated almost immediately. Well which is is to say any coach. I was GONNA say the coach of the Eagles you know like they. They alternately depending on the week. Eight Doug Peters who far as I can tell Doug Peterson is just a really genial like faceless bland kind of guy who likes to run in a tricky offensively is kind of an unpaid ended clown face. That's right he's a clown no. The Eagles won this week. So so I'm the asshole now. He's great he's fantastic. How dare you talk about Dougie? You're the fucking clown. I took your battery out of your car. This there's fucking New York Guy Giants Fan. I'm here among Punchy. Knock you into the Water Stirs Ryan. It's a good thing you left Philadelphia before you said the shit that'll shoot up into bucks county with that Shit. I have a question that I want to. This is totally out of nowhere. If I say wing bowl is that the thing that registers for the three the three in any way note apply. This is unfair for me. I was also. That's fine. That's fine so jay by head in my head I just see somebody on a jumbotron vomiting steady stream of like hot sauce. And Wing. Your head okay. So so and we saw we saw our former our former colleague. Ed Travis who lives in Philly and is a like probably I believe the most respectable extremely philly person you could possibly find and he was talking about wing bowl to Godfrey and Godfrey had no idea what it was and I. I didn't know that wing bowl was not part of our national Whatever part of the brain hold shame are national? That but I'm not going to derail the podcast with this. I just want people to go if you don't know what I'm talking about. Just go to Wikipedia and put in Wing Bowl And you'll be just I just just know that you'll be fine. It basically it looks like the Shirley Bret Bielema photo in. Oh God yeah. Yeah Oh that's upsetting setting it ended in twenty eighteen after twenty six years. Why because they won the Super Bowl and because it was originally broke a setup whereas a lake while the eagles one of her being the Super Bowl so we'll do wing bowl instead? Yeah Okay Yeah nobody nobody. Nobody by the way involve of Wing Bowl understands the concept of shame. So don't try to invoke shame as any of this it is it. Is Everything if I told you. Every bad thing you imagine to be. True about. Philidelphia is contained in the wing bowl. With the exception of the tweet. I saw saw this past weekend which was I will find the exact tweet because I still haven't here. We go from from Molly seavy nesper associate digital producer for. MTR fresh air when he grows. WHO said it happened? I witnessed witnessed the most philly thing. Ever a fight broke out during a showing of the Mr Rogers the disrespected for Rogers. You Bets Auto Care it is the land of make believe believe. I'm not feeling any fucking king. We didn't happen upon it too much extremely philly stuff at army navy Obviously we had a good time with our Spanish colleagues against all enemies troops blocked the brought us through their tailgate that school But one thing that we those of us from out of town couldn't help but notice. Was that the Philly hospitality industry even though they typically host Army Navy. They still seem surprised by the fact that anyone was visiting like Uber driver. Hotel you know airport people. Whatever like you came here the and there's a lot more? Well why. Why what? Why on Earth would you too fast? It was just like this this this sense of surprise across the entire city city Jason. Please share You know how like you go to some hotels and they'll be like. Oh here's a fresh cookie or whenever Jason. What was waiting at your hotel? So those of you who have might have not seen the Philly Pretzel video that we have that we have shared every so often spencer. What is the reporters name? Her Callahan's L. A. Hand. Yeah it's amazing please go watch it. It's it's about it. Looks like it's from like nineteen eighty three But I assume since the silliest elites from like two thousand thirteen roadside realistically think it's Ninety Ninety five roadside prints pretzel salesman in Philadelphia who were like wiping their butt holes with their hands and the people pretzels and herb is standing there with the camera. Like I just recorded you doing that like nope. NOPE I wash my hands in her. I'm sorry her her Dannenberg her Dannenberg Herb Dimberg but So my my whole joke is like I as soon as I get to Philly. I'm going to have a pretzel right. walk in the door of the hotel. The Hampton directly next to the where you run. Your card is a heaping plate of press. You can grab a pretzel. I assume assume there these these the the appeared much fresher than the traditional Philly Roadside Pretzel so I was disappointed about that. No birds no birds on your and then also at the stadium itself L.. There was just a massive the breakfast I've had a lot of CARBS. Thank you philly would you do. I principles the Philly way I I went urinated. I didn't Wash my hand. Grabbed the closest pretzel to me and sold it to somebody for fifty cents for fifty sense and then her. The ghost of her Denver came up behind me was like sir. I've never been in my car and thaw. Aw I can really just go for fucking giant Pretzel Right now. This commute this is killing me. If only I could eat going to be a big old mustard pretzel. Just a handful. A mustard else puts in my hand with their hand. I ah I just went so I just WANNA stranger. Who is smoking to baby? Bird Pretzel into my mouth driving a car as the city of brotherly love which this median eighty and had fewer trees and more men with boxes of pretzels in like weird sweaters guys. Weird sweaters full of brand dad jeans things just stopping spit. Covered spreads pretzels into my nose. Sergia realized birds are shedding on your pretzels. No no that's Cinnamon Cinnamon Cinnamon Flavor. That's the name of the bird is Davis in a red tape. This is all colored by a childhood uncle of mine. You know not a biological uncle but uncle uncle who would show us pictures of Shelley. He'd say here's where I went to high school in. It looked like it. Looked just like the scariest high school you've ever seen like yeah. Sea Otter stool is. It is really good at rocket launchers nailed to the wall sprite like yeah. It's really great. Oh here's my favorite. Like this is my dad took me to the phillies gave somebody being shift shift in the back right. Yeah this is the time the teamsters burnt down my car because I drove on the wrong side of the road during a strike. Yeah that's like the The against all enemies Bloggers also told us that they saw one of the most confusing things that army navy. The pro possibly anyone can and say they saw someone walking away in a blue and gold thirteen jersey and they were kind of confused because most navy fans get a twelve and then they realized that it wasn't a Navy Jersey. This person was wearing a Dan Marino. Pit Jersey to the Army Navy game. Just find something. Close Man Truly America's team I saw. I saw Tennessee. Notre Dame Ohio State and that Jersey Those were the non affiliated jerseys that I saw at Army Navy. This year is amazing and and a lot of analytic Cammo Eagles jerseys but I feel like that doesn't count because WHO's taking eagles. That's my favorite. Everything is like the camel. Eagles Jersey is tactical eagles. 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Ben Fred Friday  December 6, 2019

Scoops with Danny Mac

44:58 min | 8 months ago

Ben Fred Friday December 6, 2019

"Are you trying to find the sports fan in your life. The Perfect holiday gift. Why not think about tickets to the eighth annual evening with the cardinals coming up on January eleventh at Saint Louis Union station Grand Ballroom Rome this year? It features Ted Simmons and Ozzie Smith. Dinner Auction private photo session with the two legends and hear them reminisce about their careers. Get your tickets at the the NC dot org that's the NC S. Dot Org. It's an evening with cardinals January eleven. NCIS DOT Org. It's Benfrid Friday Friday. Sto Criminal Defense Dot Com and. That's the good folks at Henderson and water cutty head to their website. Sto Criminal Defense Dot Com. The exclusive lucido sponsor of Scoops Danny Mac dot com and Ben. Fred Fridays which is a visit every Friday with Ben Frederickson of the Saint Louis Post dispatch. And I I got to to be a compliment. My man all right. These are rare. I was looking through the testes and no please continue at the compliment so I was looking through through the analytics of scoops with Danny Mac dot com. I said okay this one got a Lotta listens this one get. I'm telling you I man your Friday mornings get a lot of lessons. The people are ready for the weekend. I think it's part of it. I think people know that every Friday early it's out and we're covering the news of the day and what happened. And what may happen or would he would. He Banter sure draws them in like honey. Well who wouldn't want to hear a couple of guys that have no insight talk no we have plenty of insight and that's why we have you on the hot takes. That's what it is. I mean it you do a hell of a job with the post and These are great so I appreciate everything you do Merry Christmas to you. Happy Thanksgiving thank you. Let's It's not a good Thanksgiving if you're in the autumn family right. It's tough one Let's start with just a general comment. Your thoughts on the firing a barrio them. Yeah I think it was We saw it coming right. I mean we talked last week about kind of laying out there. What Jim Stark had to decide First of all I should say that I like Barium Allott and I think i. I don't think I know that he really wanted to succeed at Mizzou he we had black and gold in his heart. And and you know I think he wanted it to happen and a lot of people there to to Although watching this season in comparing it to the expectations -tations that everyone had going in. I see why Jim sturrock made the decision This football team was supposed to in nineteen games. This football team was supposed to be see that top twenty five team that Jim Stern said he wanted since he's come on board at Missouri and it it Kinda gave it away it lost the season opener rendered that bowl band discussion discussion really really kind of moot wasn't a thing that could be. That could be talked about in gyms Turks campaign against the because the football team gave it away. You know almost pretty much in week one the five game home winning streak was immediately followed by the disaster at Vanderbilt and it just seemed like every time. There's a little momentum the bottom dropped out and this wasn't the a year for that so you know between that and the discipline issues on the field off the field but on the field absolutely and the the just complete you know Is Age of the offense under coordinator that buried 'em hired. I think he had enough reason to say. Hey you know. We've got to put my stamp on this program but the question is now and we'll get to this. I'm sure is that you can't just fire. Barry owed him and go out and hire a guy who is does not move the needle more than bury them. You Bury oedemas likable coach. And he he was about me. Played there you need to nail this higher if we're GONNA make that move because stir catalogue of reasons if he wanted if Barry was as guy he could have brought him back he you said look this. NC double the aging hung over our head. He could have said. We're GONNA fire Derek Dooley and in a lot of this was on the offense so we'll get a better coordinator. There are a lot of reasons Kelly Kelly Bryant was hurt. He could have played that card and I thought he might but He didn't and in this is on him now to go out and get a better higher because Barry oedemas likable people he had some traction in recruiting But if Jim Stark is going to say this isn't good enough and you better go get someone who clearly is better. I am a big believer for in sports in continuity Now I I see that with a asterix in which I say. That continuity is good with Barry Odem. I didn't unlike the firing of Barry Odom I think he needed to wait till he got another class through. And let me explain myself here in in Pro Sports I think with the immediacy. Now how people saying now. Now now you have to win I get it and you can change the complexities of a franchise quickly in pro sports If you WANNA go out and spend money and spend it wisely and make the right decisions you can bring the guys in and you can win in college sports especially in football. I think minimum four years Berry had four and then I always think it's five or six and if you stay with that you will see the fruits of that patients I would love to have seen him have one more year. Clearly players played ATMA. Zoo played with him teammates guys at around the program. They wanted to see him. Stay I that's you think that's fair. I mean to say that the players love him album was the players never played like they were playing for his job. That was that was the issue but everyone who knows barry even if they questioned his ability to get their thought didn't question his desire and didn't question his his you know want to and I think that's why a lot of people saw this This doesn't feel right. This is a bad a bad year. I I'm not going to say was good here because it was a terrible year Even though they would have been bowl eligible. But it wasn't a good year and I think if you look at the overall body of work with the record And people can say well. He won X Games. Some of that was against F. B. S. in it wasn't wasn't great I get that but I still think you need time to bring in your people how you want it and I still will go back. And I don't think think enough has been made of where the program was when he got there and the political climate that he was dealing with in recruiting and and that that was big and I think people kind of whole Hamad and it it it that was a tough year and it takes a year or two to get through those kind of things so so you can go get the kids and convince them that this is the place to be. If I'm reading it wrong Ben. Correct me But that's how I really believe that it needs to be looked at. I think it it was a big deal. The State of where the program was when Berry came on board and all you have to do is point to bury coming on board. Missouri went out after Gary Pinkel announced his retirement looked looked for other coaches Mac. Roads let us search and did not find anybody. He felt like he felt was more capable or more willing to take the job of a lot of people. Said we'RE NOT GONNA come take this job because of the climate on campus. But you know that was I think factored into the first season the second season I think this season was really one where everybody agreed including owed them that. This was supposed to be the breakthrough. Did you think it was the right move. I think I think I think it was the right move. If sturt goes out and lands degrade higher. That's my condition and I hope that's not hedging. Because here's the thing strict news going to do you this by the time. Missouri took the field against Arkansas. If you saw the way barrio acting on the sideline taking photos with his players and his assistant he knew this was happening He might not have been told old yet but he knew and stir clearly knew. I was watching the game by the way and at the end just to interrupt. When he's hugging is I looked at I go? That's dead man walking. He's he's done and you could even since in the conversations leading up the fast past couple weeks he was almost becoming more cerebral and I think at peace with it now is he happy got fired. Hell no but I think he saw the writing on the wall a little bit and the reason. I am mentioning. This is because I did not wake up on that Saturday morning. Go I gotTa go find a football coach. He's been thinking about this as the season progress. We should have been thinking about it the day that he hired Barrio de should think of it didn't he didn't hire took part of the thing thing here but my point is you you think about that the day that he hires whatever the next coach is what's my shortlist. Yes so if he goes out there and fumbles around around and finds out all these guys are not interested in has to go out and hire a coach. That doesn't that doesn't impress anybody. Then I think then you're we're GonNa have to view the decision to fire Berry with that complete knowledge. I don't have any problem with sturrock saying look. No I WANNA top twenty five team year four. It's not getting in their barriers. been ranked twice. He immediately lost the next game to an underdog. That's not going to get us where we want to go. I don't like seeing three five game losing streaks and four seasons and I don't like CNN undisciplined play on the field and I don't like CNN offense of an offense completely. Go off the grid because a quarterback gets hurt In that's who barry hired so I all those are sound reasons and but you have to. You know if you'RE GONNA say we're pulling the plug on this and this is a guy who took the job in part because he loves this place and in part because we couldn't get anybody better if we're going to pull the plug on that growth then you better plant somebody in there. Who's a either really exciting and is going to instantly jolt? The thing or be is proven and is going to just with with the experience and the success that they bring into the position is going to immediately really raised the profile. There aren't a lot of candidates who do one of those two things. There are a lot of candidate so I think we'll be met with kind of a Fire Berry for this guy and that's the one that's Turk has to avoid. That's the one. That's what before we get into the candidates. I want one. AD At some point whether it be with the basketball firing or football firing. And because that's your money revenue. I went one to come out and say when he's at a press conference and say well in a member of the media says what search committee are you using thing. I want that to say I'm not using a search committee and if I- ruffle feathers along the way tough this is my job and this is my job to make sure that we're putting the best position to win games. My job was a shortlist of people to have. And I'm going to go out to do that. And I know how much money I have and and I don't need a search committee to tell me who the best person is for my university. I'd love to hear in a D actually do that. I know it won't happen and so I'm already looking at my next line of business to be scoops INC search committee one hundred grand ago as I was thinking we could start one. I it's just basically get on twitter's here's the deal you understand. Why but come on a few reasons and I'm with the agree one hundred percent? I've written about this before it's the it's one of the big. There are a lot of Shams in college athletics and this is one of them. It's it's they say it's mostly to protect privacy to help coordinate interviews. They leaked anyway. Okay agent Gente. Everybody's got bad people at talking about this right until we hire the next guy great right. But here's the deal. So great go to Jimmy. SEXTON sexton get some quotes from an agent and agent X Y and Z Exits Influence on this coaching again. It always is but this was especially missile unique. The search the search committees. They try to secure privacy They tried to. I think give hiring schools some some leeway you kind of always pass bad higher off on the search committee a little bit also a lot of a lot of former to say a lot of my decision former athletic doc department. People go work for search committees Dr do so. There's there's kind of I scratch your back. You scratch mine kind of thing going on there too but I agree. It's it's a joke but you know your job. I'm totally amazed. Maybe you think about it they hold on. Here's your head coach you. My job is to put the best product on the field with what I think is the best leader. Yeah so that's on me. I don't need some guy in New York telling me go fly to this one and go to this one and talk to this Guy Guy and go meet in a private come on the benefit of it and this is real. The search committee has a better temperature of every coach in the country. They can make a call all dune agent and say hey. Is Your Guy Happy at such and such school easier than stir can pick up a phone and and go because that's the call that and he says I want to interview they all of agents totally. So this is a big agent It's a big huge. You gotta get used anyway. That's true they used by the search committee. And the and the agents it's everything but Yeah no it's I'm with you. They shouldn't do it and I'm off my soapbox with you. I agree with you. I'm telling you what they say and I don't agree with it but I also not gonNa stop so everyone is one hemming and hauling about the search committee here. I've written it. It's not GONNA change because they're all getting paid baby and it's college athletics and the money and money makes money and and that's that's what's going to keep happening and it also gives a layer of protection perhaps in the eyes of Athletic Department because if you go out and and bomb a higher failed miserably and you don't hire search committee then you're the in your school that do the guy you're the one that broke out different on you for it. I want somebody with guts to say this is my decision. I think he's very news law. I think Missouri fans will be happy with just a higher. They're excited about so who's going to be. Let's let's jump Eh all right. So let's give a quick rundown you know it's not going to entail but Gimme some names in a little bit of resume on these guys is going to interview a bunch of guys and Our mind or is the search committee that no sterkel okay. Thanks and Believe he's going to do that. You know it seemed like we have enough information to believe I. Can't you. Now see this one hundred percent but we think he's doing it in Atlanta He's flying in and out of Atlanta and doing rounds of interviews and his status has been kind of what he did with with basketball. He likes to see allow. What's out there? It doesn't necessarily mean that name. We hear he's going to go higher another thing. This hasn't really people are going to do is take it just started the okay you know. Look at Florida. State and guys are in champion Tarkenton's to a lot of interested. Parties are coaching and Games as we can which make things really difficult to try to find guys to talk to him So that's going on to the name that I think if you could just nail it today and be done with it. walkaway stark says this is what I meant when I said we need to be better and everybody was like okay is Boise. State's Brian Hudson. I don't know if they can get him his really low his his salary Missouri could double it basically what he's GonNa make the next five years. He inherited a really good program at Boise. We state but it's gotten better under him in six years there he's putting guys in the NFL. He is running as an offensive mind background and he might be interested in leaving. He's talked kind of tried to get into the mix it Tennessee. Kind of trying to get in the mix at Oregon I'm not sure he will leave. Maybe he's laying low for a pack twelve job or what he feels like his premier job although Tennessee's not a premier the job anymore That would be the guy that they can if they can stick him bring him in. Then I think stroke could walk away and say hey we got a guy who I who matches the description that I described. That's the no-brainer. After their things get a little more crazy who else well a lot of people in that realm of kind of is this guy better than cirque. We'll get to those. The other guys are people are going to talk about. But I don't know that they're realistic. Are Mike Novell at Memphis in lane kiffin at FAU. Your personal favorite lane. Love is very much on the lane train. I figured hey if we're going to go for it let's just go. We're going to go down. Let's go down. I'm not as big of a fan of lane as you I was at. I didn't cover lane at Tennessee but I was there for the posting. I can only imagine what was it like he's either beloved or or or despised. Let me ask you this. Probably somewhere somewhere in the middle. How good was his recruiting class? He recruits man. Probably doesn't get enough credit for hourly recruit. You Bet any. And he's known as a good recruiter he also knows offense my Bingo beautiful offense he's a name he's he would excite the fan base and he would he would get so. I'm not sure if you get a guy from Boise state. So you're locked into this right. You know these guys you know the buyouts you know their history. You know what's happening with this and I'm not saying that fans wouldn't find out about Boise easy state or the guy from this place or that place but if you said Lane Kiffin to the average sports fan and a guy that follows Mizzou and when I say follows checks it out every Saturday and maybe buys a ticket and goes down and sees him. Oh Cool I you know it's fun you said. Hey Lane kiffin they go. Oh whether you like them or not your ears perk hookup and there's interest and there's excitement and I I think that's that cannot be overlooked because the what's happening right now. Mizzou there is not a lot of buzz especially with basketball. What's happening but with what is going on? I just think you have to make a buzz type higher and I get it. What you're saying is right? The guy from Boise great credentials make sense fits in the financial world. They're living in. But you get a guy like link kiffin lumber hate him you're GonNa pay attention you will and then you also have to be ready for the lane. kiffin baggage could come with that I don't hate it as much as I did. The last time around last time around you know when they were looking in lane skin it was too soon for sure to close to what happened at USC. Too close to what happened. I mean he went to Tennessee for one year and then bolted for say. Yes I know someone who covers lane nine at. Fau like the one guy who covers. He does a great job and talking to him. He says I don't know about Mizzou for lane for a few reasons. One apparently land like hates being in the cold like and it's not like spies it. Okay so he wants to be in Florida or California. Kids are in California. He wants to be able to have direct flights to California. There's a lot of reasons one another one being that he's probably going to be interested and have interest in Florida State And the other one is that you got to see what's going on with Sexton sexton in his lanes agent Jimmy Sexton the guy we mentioned earlier. He's also Mike Novell's agent at Memphis he's also will healy's agent. WHO's the guy we're going to talk to talk about? WHO's that WHO's that Charlotte Charlotte? So what what sex does is he. Just Pee pee lines guys up where he wants them and he pressures all these different schools against each other. I would not be shocked. I think Mike novell probably if he's going to leave Memphis. Probably wants to go to either ole miss or floor state so kiffin could go to one of the other and then you know one of those schools could be looking at will healy. WHO's like this up and coming really exciting guy at Charlotte and I like? I don't know that that that Kiffin and Orville or the right fit for Missouri. I think novell's Dell's great coach. I also think it's a little weird to hire. The coach Memphis hired when the coach just fired turned memphis down right which is what how they got to Norville Barrio. They they wanted them and ODEM picked Mizzou over Memphis and they wouldn't hire Nobel so a lot of people can get over that sure but I just don't know if I'm novell I you can either go to Ole miss and have my all my memphis recruits. Come with me or I can go to Florida state which I think is probably the best placed in the mix. Maybe get to play for National Championship. which which is why I like will healy as a candidate for Mizzou and people are going? Who's will really read up on this guy a little bit? He's incredible young like thirty four years. Old He is baby face looks like he's about twelve. I don't think he'd get a beer in this in this place without being carded three times but he is this Dr Dabo Sweeney. You like protege big energy incredible positively offense former Richmond quarterback. He's got his start at University of Tennessee Chattanooga where he was a quarterbacks coach a receivers coach recruiting director and landed two top five. FCS classes there. He goes to Austin P. Austin P.. I mean I don't know it's a joke. They're one of the worst the Worst Division One football program in the country. He doesn't want a game his first year and then they come back and have a winning season. A great remarkable season win more games than they ever have his second year he gets you top recruiting class there and Charlotte comes and says may were starting our program. We want to get this guy. They bring him in already in the short history of Charlotte he has. He has got him to a bowl game. They're going to Bahamas bowl. He's turned their their their locker rooms. After winds into these dance parties these look like raves. He announces the bowl trip in scuba gear. He's a relentless recruiter. I mean relentless does a great job identifying talent he he's been able able to get a good staff young staff but good staff around him because he trusts them and he doesn't kill them work wise. He's young would be a risk but I think if you're talking about energy gene. That's words. Stirred kept mentioning energy enthusiasm. It makes you think Kiffin It makes me think a healy and it would be a risk because the guys young. He hasn't coached at this level but they would also be an investment zoo to say we see this guy's an up and coming our way. Thanks guys the next big thing we see him. We identify them. We're going to grow with them and we're GONNA in a give him the kind of contract that makes them Wanna come. Do this with us before we get miss a chance to get a guy like this is so that would be those are my name's And there are no names. I look I don't I don't know that that's going to move the needle or any better than what Missouri just got rid of. I'm curious and this is brought to you by. Sto Criminal Defense Dot Com Henderson and water cutty Benfrid Fridays. I'm curious from their perspective coach's perspective how attractive is a Mizzou job. Now I think it's more attractive than it was when Gary Pinkel resigned and that's a credit to Berry ODEM You know that's one thing I think I think Barry always struggled with and I get it He always he's wrestled with dwight embrace berry embrace. Gary I'm sorry as as the guy who is a the reason I'm here and created this this foundation at Mizzou or do I distance myself from Gary because the way things ended you know the the protests. Obviously I think Gary if he would have been locked in Might have handled that differently probably would have And would not let it get to the level. It did but he was. I want to check out but he was. He was slipping their toward the end. And those even those who have a lot out of appreciation and respect for Gary would tell you that it was not a Gary Pinkel coach program by the time he walked away and Berry I think always wrestled with that. He wanted to say he inherited a really a bad situation and then he also wanted to talk about everything you learned from Gary and there was always kind of friction there. I think I wish I wish he would have had a better. Maybe working relationship with Gary as he was the coach and as things progress. Because I think there are things Gary could have helped them with for sure demonic cross for example. I don't know that Democrats would have been hired at Mizzou if Berry would've asked I'm gary for for his thoughts on that Gary didn't I never got the impression Gary wanted to be involved like every day but I think he would have liked a a back a little bit more of back and forth and he had and I think it would have been beneficial. So is the situation better recruiting wise. It should be you know the distance. There's time between those those events in two thousand fifteen and now and you've got to think to not recruiting guys like me new age wise. You remember it like it was yesterday recruiting young teenagers. Who some eleven? Probably haven't even heard this this year So I think I think that's a a better thing that the one thing I hear from coaches around this area when they talk about Mizzou and it's not a knock on them. They're being honest. Kazue is seen as kind of boring and little dry and you know not exciting. And so I'm with you on that you think it's key you think it's Kiffin Healy But they need somebody who moves the needle they need energy. Yes they need someone who can go in there and get guys fired up and for all the people who want to Gripe about fun on the field in Illinois. Why are they dancing and other jerseys are? Jerseys aren't traditional national. We know what players like. They like to be fun they like to be fresh. They liked to have a good time and doesn't mean they're playing sloppy football or not winning games. But you have to have some energy energy you have to have a little bit of swagger and that's what I think Mizzou needs to consider right now Odem I don't he wasn't lacking energy. I don't mean to put it that way. But there's a perception mizzou around Missouri Dole. And if you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA move the needle recruiting then you've got to change that. I am proud to add to the website as an exclusive sponsor of Ben Fred Fridays. The St Louis based criminal defense firm of Henderson Water Cutty as many of you know. I'm proud to be from Saint Louis and Mick Henderson. Steve Steve Water cutty are from Saint. Louis they call it home. Their firm is the PERMIRA criminal defense firm in Missouri and Illinois so being from Saint Louis they want to help people from our region and all you have to do is go to their website. St L. Criminal Defense Dot Com that's S. T. 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I'll tell you why that's one of the worst losses. Two nights ago. That Mizzou is ever had at Mizzou arena. That was awful. What they saw the other night and That that right now that's reeling in in twenty nineteen and and they've got to turn that thing around quickly that we'll start with Mizzou. 'cause it's fresh fresher on my on my brain right now. I guess but I think that has to be rock bottom for this team. There's no lower than that Konso knows that I mean you saw it in his press conference he just kept saying how he's GonNa remember this loss forever. They're in a tough spot and first of all. Just say anyone who's clamoring about cons of getting fired. Check out the contract. You can't be fired now. So he's not going and he's not going to be and he shouldn't be no but he's got a problem on offense and he doesn't they don't seem to have the answer right now to figure out how to score and if they're not going to be with the offense is going to be clunky than their defense has to be really good and learn how at soft and that's what's bothering him the most The they're they're just not they don't look like they have that edge and I thought last night in that that game you saw them leading give up but they didn't look in Konso talked about it. You know you got Jeremiah. Tillman Hidden Mark Smith accidentally in the head while the two of them go for their own rebound bound when nobody else is in the area You Know Drew Smith fouls out with ten minutes left in the game and he's they're supposed to be their leader because he just won't stop Swiping it passes trying trying to get lazy steals They didn't look in and they haven't I was at that tournament in Kansas City. where it's really the script has been followed every game? They get down by ten points points right out of the gate and then they try to fight back and it's not enough They did come back against Charleston southern whatever the hell their name was and And they just let it go again. Yeah so you know they have to do some soul-searching they've got to figure out a way to still a lot of it comes down to Jeremiah. Tillman he gained two quick Faouzi. Ozzie came back better in the second half. But if your game plan is neutralized in the first half of games you better have a backup and the main thing I think is that they gotta start hitting some threes. I mean they have you've lived under Konso and they were. They hit threes. Yeah and they're guys right now who keep shooting and shooting. Who are probably shouldn't be shooting as as much as they are in the end? They're taking easy. They're taking soft threes like not open threes com not competitive threes threes. We don't have a better option. Let's jacket three. They've you've got to start getting to the basket. They've gotTA start getting the ball to tell them. There was one point. They gave him the ball. What I think four times and the post in a row when he scored eight points now? He's been on the floor to to do that but they also have to find a way to get him. The ball I like that. He's starting Xavier Pinson. I think he's the one player who is guaranteed to be exciting when he's on the floor and he's got to play better or two if he's going to take on that role he can't game like he did in that night. He was terrible and combine that with Drew Smith being bad. And that's going to be tough. They have not yet found a way consistently to have their best. The three players you know drew Smith. Jeremiah Tillman Mark Smith play consistently on the same night. And if they do that they'll be the team we saw in the first few games But but but man they've they've got to get it together and they've got a big game coming up not too far from now here in Saint Louis and Illinois hasn't been perfect. They're taking their bruises and taking some wops. But I'm telling you if they like that. Here to Saint Louis Eight ran out of the gym Slew very quickly. Yeah man we'll talk a little baseball but you know slew seven and one one and it's not pretty it's not always pretty it's very rarely pretty with Travis's teams but that's kind of their identity and they're okay with that because they defend and they rebound like like a bunch of a bunch of over caffeinated guys who are all about it and they. They've got a little more shooting now. I mean I liked that. He can put Gibson Jim rison when they fall behind right in and do for a shot just in there to score and everybody knows it like well. Good luck stopping it. I think that's a real weapon for them. As he gets more mature her. I love the way Goldman in French. Playing man they're they're leading by example Goodwin is possessed You know those rebounds are outstanding standing. I'm just appear will it's it's will. It's all it is. I love the way when he screws up and it doesn't happen all that often. He's the first one to go around and pick his teammates up. I mean he's leading and you're seeing in it you know you've talked about on the broadcast I've written about it. I'M OH TRAVIS GETS tired of talking about it. But the there one Achilles heel and it's a big one is ability to to not help themselves in the free throw third apartment. It'll cost them and it did last year against home And I don't know what you do. I've always wondered if they go to the YMCA and get that one guy who is shooting free throws at lunch and coming in Cushman. You GotTa do something right at some point. It's the definition of insanity. They just need better shooters to shoot free those better. I don't think you're GONNA fix fix French. Okay make as many as he can. Yeah but you gotTa have your Jordan. Good one of those guys should make free throws so. I think that that's going to continue to be something. They've got to work on but yet their record right now. I think they're feeling pretty good about it. And they got slapped around against Seton Hall and they seem to be responding to the way you'd hope they would. It'd be interesting. They're not a big team. And I was talking to Travis about this this this past week but you know when you look at good when you look at France you mean. French is not a seven one player no plays he's like he's about eight feet tall. He's an animal down there. Goodwin is just as you mentioned relentless in in in the towel go get the ball and he post guys up. Yeah and he's he's he's very versatile and when you have collins on the floor not a big guy but they're starting to get as perkins scoring. He's ahead of where they thought he might be. Any mentioned jemison knocking pin down shots what teams have to over extend which then opens up French. So it'll be interesting. How teams play them going forward? I know we're running out of time. I WanNa make sure we we. We talk a little baseball. Winter meetings coming up cardinals have been quiet whole really the whole league. He's been quiet. Although might stock goes to Cincinnati. I also you'll find it interesting and not a lot of people talked about this but you think about what the brewers have lost Mustafa's drew pomeranz grand. All those all got four year contracts. Those three guys well. They were key in that stretch. Run from Milwaukee so to me Milwaukee you're talking about the other teams at value value those players again for your deals. That's a big hit to them. It's a big pickup for Cincinnati. And when you put a guy like people say well you can't play second second base well in this day and age is shifts. You can hide a guy you know Matt Carpenter Played Second Base You. Can you can position people differently in the game now out to where it is played. What forty semi games? I think it was for Milwaukee. And you say you'll be fined second base. We can hide them. We'll shift we'll do different things and I you know they needed offense surprisingly of all teams. Cincinnati needed offense and they they got a big one there. That lineup what happened to. It was weird last year because I think we all thought it would it would be better than it was and credit to them for going out and trying to fix it their defense is probably gonNA be pretty bad. Yeah but I but I I don't I I see what they're doing they're saying our offense producers are are ballpark produces offense helps us so let's lean into it. Let's stick a guy who is a great second baseman there but try to shift around it and maybe don't stop there. I mean maybe they go get Marcello. Another flaw defensive player. Yeah put them in. Put them in the. We're GONNA roll right Good luck pitchers don't do either. Let him hit it out of the park or don't let him because expect us to stop it if it's in the field You know they're going to be more competitive. I think. Certainly be more interesting I like the idea of the cardinal's gone after you and I've talked about this a ton in the past you've always been promised Dacas. Yep I was down on him last year. I thought what the cardinals had was was better. Not Maybe not better but was just getting that money. Allocated superjet Jerko cease to exist and and Matt Carpenter had a really awful here. I like the idea of the cardinals bringing him in putting him at third base and Hoping Matt Carpenter bounced back and if he did the good problem to have the as opposed to just betting on Matt Carpenter Bouncing Housing Back. Although I would not have given Mike Stock as a four year sixty million dollar deal I think probably so probably one year too long for four years two years ago. That would have been nice nicely. You would look smart but now I don't know if I would've loved that deal for the cardinals In the cardinals weren't gonNA play him at at second base so the look the reds pounce on the opportunity. I'm sure a lot of teams like well. We would have liked to see what happened with mistake because he was going to go one but he played himself out of that realm so good for him for betting on himself. Yeah for two straight years sixty million dollars on payday for it. Everyone says the brewers are rebuilding right. That's what the talk. especially if they trade hater. That's the Taliban. Yeah although I can see why they would trade him. I could too because you can get from that guy three years from now two years from now this season they were no so so hard exactly so if you can get players that help your team and and say hey. Thanks for the awesome pitching hater. That would probably be a wise move considering what we've seen but it also probably probably indicates that the brewers are willing to take a step back. I'm just awful. Cautious to write the brewers off because too many times that they're always there and they were. It happened again this season. But look you added Christian. Yelich in that window is is not all that big with him. Don't give up on this team like they should. They should be building now. What what they do with it you know? Are they going to rebuild. Are they going to kind of refresh or are they going to actually rebuild because don't rebuild with your. MVP that's crazy. Yeah I I would agree curious about that. That and then the cardinals are kind of just doing nothing And it's early though I'll give him credit though like and people will will bark about this and I've already seen in the chats chats like I actually appreciate the cardinals explaining where they stand as opposed to like giving off this idea that they're going to go do a bunch of stuff and they're not doing it like they've said look most of our team bag and we're not really sure where the editions are to make but we're interested in looking around at it and fans go. What do you mean? You don't have that. I cannot change the offense up. They're going to do something. I would imagine agent but I don't have a good idea of what it is. I think. Hopefully we'll get a better feel for that at winter meetings a little bit i. I'm really curious and I don't think it's gotten enough play And maybe you disagree with me but you know there's pending labor issues and it was talked about a lot last year because guys weren't getting signed and it was going into Spring Training and Harper was laid and some of the bigger names or late probably will be the case this year too. I mean the way that you watch the marketplace and how it's developing we mentioned Jimmy. sexton look at McCoy. Boris has exactly. So you know you never know I mean next next week you might have a bunch signings sir but I just don't. I don't know if if that's getting enough talk because it's coming and it's on the horizon and it could be nasty and I wonder if that will be the talk of what's going on In baseball next next week now I I asked John Mosaic said. Do you think this is pretty much right. After the season and I said well teams revealing different deals with the understanding that there could be a stoppage. And he said I'm paraphrasing. But he said I think think it's GonNa be basically business as usual and you know we're we're planning on having baseball and by God it's a fourteen billion dollar business. There better be baseball. Everybody's making money money so if they don't play baseball shame on them on all of them so figure it out but I just wonder if that will be the underlying theme of next week when when a baseball fan that loves this game like me would rather hear about Oh. I wonder if the cardinals might do this. or where is this guy going. I love the off season. I think it's fun. I just wonder if that's going to be the underlying theme next week. You Get mad at me when I write about this and then you bring it up and say why. Isn't anybody talking about it. I wanted to see what else about baseball stoppage trouble on that stuff. It's a huge deal and it's a huge. That'll be the theme. I think it's GonNa come up up especially if he's sitting around not making moves. What else are we supposed to talk about it? It's a it's a real thing and you're already see in you're already seeing the signs of it you know. MLB trying to trying to decrease the number of Minor League team yes minor league players MLB says okay. We'll we'll pay these guys more and then a day later. You know being paraphrasing but you know soon after they said we're just GONNA get rid of a bunch of teams right and it's like okay. You know this is going to come mm two ahead at some point. I'm free agency has become something the players are are used to be live for play for and now it's almost scary And that's not gonNA keep changed and the players met players have to be smart and the players have to stop fighting for money for for guys who don't deserve it and start fighting for money for guys who do and that's something that means they're gonNA fight for younger guys to get paid more. They're going to have to fight for guys to reach free agency sooner and that's GonNa be had to be selfless of them away because a lot of the guys doing it are going to be guys who are beyond it and it's actually going to take players wing willing to fight for guys who who to make money who are not them doing the fighting and they're really they're really. I don't think it's afraid. But they have not done that. Or if they did they would have been fighting for minor leaguer sooner. You know the the guys had the sense of once. I'm there I'm want mine and I get it. You know I understand the concept but it's with that path it's not gonna work so that's going to be you know that's GonNa be a big conversation. I think I think the other thing. That's going to be a big conversation with her. Meetings is is an update. On what the Hell's going on the Astros. You know people are talking about this thing More and more going to leak next week I no question about it. I ran into to to luke void at a blues game and and I won't You know I don't think I'm speaking a school here. Was I said what makes us. He plays for the Yankees Right. He's like Oh man. People People New People knew that this was going on with them. So more and more people are going to be Talkin in Suing Carlos Beltran to address S.. Alex Cora. Alex Cora Rob Manfred. I would think is gonNA have this thing wrapped up sooner rather than later. It's going to drop the hammer on some kind of a big topic and I think that will be another another thing but you know again once again another winter meetings where we might not be talking about moves as much as is the state of baseball and the ball. And what's going on with the show baseball and and cheating in the game and in minor leagues. It's GonNa be a very probably political winter meetings things. I would imagine final thing you have the baseball writers dinner coming up. We should probably address that. Because you're part of that group that puts on that dinner and let's tell people botta get involved in what's What's coming up this year? Yeah it's coming up and we can get you. Maybe we can. We can put us a link to the site for tickets on on the site with the podcast. If you're up for that It's a chance to really gather celebrate the year that was in baseball and it all benefits scholarships at the baseball writers. Chapter here locally gives out We're one of the really only two dinners left. It's us in New York and we do the dinner and bringing cardinals and and bring in Carl. Greats to to raise money for scholarships for student journalists in all different capacities. So what I always tell. People is that if they're tired of me you know they should come to the dinner by ticket and they can give a scholarship for the guy or girl girl who replaces me you know. I was a scholarship recipient back in the day. So you never know you can You could push one of us out of out of a Gig by shown up and I would hope the people Get a chance to check it out. It's a great Christmas gift We're going to have You know we're GONNA have Colton Colton long there for his for his gold gloves. We're going to have you know it's going to be a good time and and I hope that I hope that people who haven't been will come check it out. Great Kiss Christmas gift. If you're looking for for somebody in the family's a big cardinals fan which the best way to get those tickets metro metro ticks. If you just go to metro or you can go go to your just google very easy. You know. Saint Louis Baseball Writers Association. The link will take you right there and I'll get you willing to to put on the site. We definitely will do it awesome stuff. We'll catch up next Friday. spank atop I am proud to add to the website as an exclusive sponsor Aben Fred. Friday's the saint. Louis based criminal defense firm of Henderson water. Cutty as many of you know I'm proud to be from Saint Louis and Mick Henderson and Steve Water Kathi are from Saint. Louis they call it home. Their firm is the Premier Criminal Defense Firm in Missouri and Illinois so being from Saint Louis they they want to help people from our region and all you have to do is go to their website. Sto Criminal Defense Dot Com. That's S. T. L. 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Under The Microscope

"I got the flu and he says he's back. He's a guy who eggos blameless. He's one hundred percent in the funny part about all of this is that so you may have some version of all of these things he does play football sound. You just heard the sound of moralizer is coming for him. Because that's the next step of this writes this that every turn well. Let's start with Cam Newton Kyle out an experiment will last longer than most expected as what we felt was a foot sprain is turned out to be a list frank injury for Newton. There's no timetable for his return. It it's possible the injury could sideline him for the rest of the season Pablo. How do you see life without Cam for the panthers in the short term? I see it as super super fragile because this is the type of injury the list frank that has me looking at lower extremity review magazine for prognoses he's and it's complicated but the upshot is that this is serious it is real serious and so you have this fragility around Cam and you have this fragility around Kyle Ellen because the case for him now that he's played really well as you've seen him all true optimism makes sense but he is going from playing the cardinals last week to the Texans this week take. That dude looks like less of himself or more like his old self you might say this is a whole organization that is teetering. It doesn't matter what the case for Kyle it it is because he is now the quarterback right now. How long is it GonNa take for Cam to come back? It's hard to tell but round Rivera's coaching for his job right. There was some questions as to whether he you make it into this season Mardi her the general manager probably in it for his job. Also how well do you have to perform with Kyle in order for you to keep your jobs. The answer answer is you probably can't perform well enough falcons. Had this happened when Arthur blank bought the team. Dan Reasons still dear. Jim Reeves top. He got sorry thousand sort of Super Bowl at one time. They've actually done that before Rivera Carolina but with Cam there's a long-term question also because I think a lot of will be on those first few games people put on the shoulder injury. How much of that was the foot now that we know that the foot was a really big deal so how'd depending on when he comes back where are they on their future with or without him because he's is not out of the realm of possibilities played his last game for them? Yeah we're trying to isolate injury variables here these shoulder versus the foot and all of that just nets out to a lot of problems problems and you're totally right Jerry Richardson he hired the current regime does a regime by the way that notably also drafted will greer like they didn't think that Kyle Allen was going to be this otherwise. I don't think they would have taken will grier as high as they did so they have another quarterback to throw out there when this all if this all goes down in flames names but I have to believe that on his shoulder and or foot is the future of the organization has conflicts that might be like being on the shoulder and foot. That's how might have passed right like what you got a new owner performance only matters for so much about Kyle and think he would be this two games everybody he's played two games Jason Gerry now in the world seemed to think Gary should be canned. Jerry Jones always backed him publicly now that the cowboys are three and no one looks like a legitimate super bowl contender Jones's noncommittal about extending his head coach his contract while not answering the question on Garrett's contract does imply discussing such things publicly isn't how the cowboys DO BUSINESS FAD and L. O. L. Jerry Bob Low. She Jason Gabby a little nervous about his future. He should be but at the same time he like. All of us saw what happened with Zeke Elliot Jerry Jones came out here and said the whole thing about how publicly he's not going to negotiate and then obviously he negotiated against the person he said he was not negotiating against and so what ends up happening he ends up getting paid you gail you does and I have to imagine that Jason Garrett right now the fact he's never been three you know and he's had this job and now suddenly he's. He's off to the best start. Ever optimism doesn't make sense but it's going to be messy in public until it gets resolved. I don't think optimism makes any sense since it all in this scenario why he's in is they made a very significant change on the coaching staff this year and that was made Keller more the offense coordinator keeping in mind. The Jason Geared word is an offensive guy figured out himself right no changes made now the office lose more explosive than it has been therefore how much credit is Jason Garrod actually getting for whatever the improvement happens to be we have seen this happen over and over again where you bring in the new offensive coordinator dolphins better the team gets better now. The offense coordinator becomes the the head coach. We even saw dig per meal lose his job with the rams. After winning a super bowl that's right under that scenario so this man has always been down to ride for you in public about out these things and now all of a sudden he's being quiet because one thing about Jerry he will be complimentary does not have a problem doing that. He's not doing it with this do but hold on because Jason Jason Garrett has not been paid yet absolutely true but neither has Dak Prescott and I think the same sort of question emerges not because they're not going to take care of Dak obviously Dak is essential Jason Garrett in that way not but simply that this might just be how Jerry Jones wants to roll and the case for Jason Gary by the way the most wins in the NFC over the last three years. He's doing all this stuff to beyond. Just you know occasionally being clumsy on offense. There's no salary cap on coaches. They don't have to figure out nearly as much but speaking of figuring out payment. Let's get to Kansas which is now defending its honor against the NC double a. on the heels of that F. B. I. Investigation into Bagman. TJ Guests Nola the the NC Double A. Alleges that Adidas seeking to protect its investment in Kansas has been steering top prospects the head coach bill self the punishments on the table are serious level one on violations that could result in years of postseason bans and a bane for self in specific declares the NCW allegations a false narrative so so Bonnie. How does this narrative look to you? I mean it looks like business as usual and that was the thing that bill self got caught basically saying into text messages where he was just just like UNC and Duke do it. We don't actually have proof that this is just the way that they do it with. As with self wanted people to believe even while under the cloak of darkness with the people he was doing knowing these things that you're not supposed to be doing with now. What is the is he going to do? I'm not sure is the legendary Jerry Tar Canyon quote. They're so mad at Kentucky that they gave Cleveland State extra probation thing is there's a couple years after that they brought the hammer to Kentucky and absolutely brought them to their needs. It's been a long time since they've done that to a basketball program in that way but if they're going to save any face whatsoever for their notion of amateurism Kansas Kinda SORTA has to pay that is the point to your saving face because these texts as much as they are our business as usual there also an indictment because the NC double a. needs to preserve the notion that they're here to regulate and while Carolina Line and Duke and Kentucky got strays in those text exchanges it is bill self who they have on the hook due to the FBI investigation and so. I don't think they WANNA kill kill the golden goose. I don't think they WANNA kill Bill. I don't think they WANNA kill Kansas. I don't think they WANNA kill Adidas. They prefer that none of this ever happened but now they've been forced into a corner that is rare because the southern district of New York and the FBI or all over Kansas and they're just gonNA look foolish if they do nothing. Here's the thing though is Kansas really golden goose or are. They just really good like Duke. That's it's a golden goose. UNC that is a golden goose. If they blow Kansas off the map it would change the landscape of college basketball but is that really changing. Anybody's money likely that happened happened with that really hurts someone is this the perfect example and I don't WanNa say pets because they seem to be in line doing what they've been accused of doing but a big name that you can hammer without affecting the larger economy that might be what they serve that and that might be the most offensive thing anyone has said about Kansas and bill salad but also think about this they brought that hammered at USC football when the time came and that is golden goose because they bought back heads trying to book back and Y'all better win covered up Nex. Can't Kyrie going to be a leader with the nets high hi news brought to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance and modell a taste of pure gold. No Delo brewed for those with a fighting unsparing. I can't believe that Gerald presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets look here comes a one point seven percent decrease in Finnish overhead. 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No it it's not the leadership the work ethic and the competitive nature that he has brought to the group has been terrific said Nets. Gm Sean Marks Works about Kyrie Irvings so Bomani. What is marks supposed to say there I mean I don't really know I've been Kyrie does work hard? I think they're pretty much everything they all sound like irving however they all sound like things that we would've said at the beginning of the year last year also he couldn't figure out was how oh to be leader guy with a bunch of guys who had done things without him. Coincidentally he is now coming to a team trying to figure out how to be leader guy. What a bunch of guys who have done things without him? I just want to point out that Sean marks doesn't have to say any of these things that demand us to ask follow up questions like did you watch the video from this time last last year when he vowed to retire his Jersey into the rafters of the TD North Garden like you can just say Kyrie Irving. Have you watched him play basketball. He's incredible. He's a handle angel. You could shoot. He has NBA finals experience all this other stuff. That's where credulity tends to be strained his thing though this is a team that needs somebody to be the liter of you ain't. He is Eddie caliber of player where we expect you to be leader when you're coming in there and I'm sure that that's the way that he talks about himself. So did he have to say that it all depends on what you mean by half to but somebody jared Dudley was that guy for the team last year Jared Dudley. He's not there this year so somebody's going to have to assume their role in. It's got to be Kyrie Irving at least for right now. Even Kevin Durant comes later. Kevin Durant demonstrated us the one thing he didn't feel like doing this stuff. That's the funny part is that jared. Dudley was their guide. The players only meeting all of that went on big winning streak to finish the year but jared Dudley and Kyrie irving are not the same person Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving are not the same person although they are friends and so this whole thing where Kevin Durant will not play this year but then he will come back possibly with a documentary crew around him that's all well and good but once Kyri establishes himself as look leader Guy Presuming. That's a thing Katie is gonNA come around in that is always going to be a chemistry experience. I don't say this Kevin Durant knew how to navigate it with Russell Westbrook. Something tells tells me he can figure that part out quote. Hey this guy talk these two Alpha males talking to each other Richie Incognito. HBO's CBS sports while denying the bully Jonathan Martin who lasted one season in the NFL after the twenty thirteen scandal while incognito plays for the raiders this year Pablo were you at all persuaded by incognito does explanations for his behavior here. No of course not enriching you can talk Neto is a case study what the NFL actually values because the guy has a history. Here's a history history that is both bizarre threatening people at a funeral home demanding decapitated head of his late father being accused of throwing weights around him him being put in psychiatric care all that stuff but at the same time he can show up at an interview with the button-down shirt and seem lucid moments and that is enough for an NFL all teams who signed him so I am not persuaded but that is the low bar that he has cleared for everybody else. It's saying nobody even he doesn't even need to show up for the interview at this point like whatever they had on him. He's gotten past that right and I'm trying to figure out why do people showing up to talk to him. We cameras around. He's not interesting. He doesn't say anything particularly bright. There's nothing nothing really compelling about him. Why why do we act like this is the dude that we have to listen to in the first place on top of him saying these two Alpha male us? If you guys were to Alpha males we wouldn't be where we are right now like that's the way you see Jonathan Martin. You certainly didn't seem to treat him as such. His response didn't seem to indicate that he viewed. There's a better world if we stopped trying to litigate Alpha male nist specifically in retrospect because he was obviously lying there was does but the thing that I hope for in these interviews. I hope that they actually hold them account to the things he said all other than the Jonathan Martin thing he said the most textbook racial slurs against Asian people he did massage parlor stuff he did be Pearl Harbor stuff all of that and you know how many times they ask them about that in this. Hbo Real Sports Interview Zero Zero Zero Times. I wonder why don't you ask him so anywhere asking at some point about that you're GonNa have to do it. Here's you're GonNa have to see that. He has passed that like they have moved on. Don't forget man right the mcnabb but don't forget Bradley Cooper got a contract extension after the thing that he did like everybody knew about Riley who but the people know about this thing Richie incognito to they just made the decision that they don't care and with the Riley Cooper thing they made the decision ultimately that they did not care hear about that like he's never going to be called to answer that. He's not going to be called to answer for all the other stuff. That's gone all because they've made a decision. This is a guy that we are keeping around. He's pretty damn disposable. That's maybe the most bizarre part he has enough talent to not be thrown into the garbage immediately but this does seem like a weird time to ask for an interview because I am interested in that Ah do you have you been sitting around like you. I want to hear from rich. I want people to know what she said to him to answer what he said. That's pretty basic all right coming up next packers offense is it in trouble finding is brought to you by old spice never let a friend loses swagger or keys all right nineteen years ago that do it on the bottom was supposed to come to the NBA and then Vince Carter jumped over him in an Olympic basketball game. I mean I assume sense. I feel like everybody's still feels like Kevin Garnett over there when they see video or photo of this my question is when can we get a statue is is the twenty year anniversary finally give a statue of the greatest moment in sports history because that's what is it unfortunately there'd be like obscenity laws. It's a little suggestive sued nine Aaron Rodgers fifty seven completely threw three gangs raises his lowest total to this point in the season two thousand nine and now Rogers had this to say some point the offense is going to have to wake up and start making some plate Pablo. Do you see this is Roger taken responsibility or sub tweeting. It seems like both and honestly like if you some tweeting and it's you know about week four we can live with that Aaron. Rodgers has the ability to create much more trouble than doing right now but he's also speaking the truth the offense right now it's garbage. He has the defense his dreams defense which is leading the League or close to it in various important categories but the offense man. It is a mess well this. This is a place where past behavior gets Aaron Rodgers way because what he said is ultimately pretty benign right yeah. The offense does need to get better. The problem is that it is never Aaron Rodgers taking responsibility responsibility because we don't have a track Reagan publicly take responsibility for these matters so would you wonder about is the other guys here this how many of them here this is Aaron Rodgers sub tweet because they're so used to dealing with Aaron Rodgers and his tweets but in the end it's correct you win got a guy who used the no show mcvay one time and he's GonNa fix your offense because the offense was the problem problem and the offense doesn't look fixed and if I can get a little bit messier here there are some things that he has said on the record which do lend credibility to the idea that he's dissatisfied with Matt Leflore the question that you just mentioned he said Davante Adams needs to get targeted more. He said we want our tight end to be more involved in this offense that the flora we're saying in response or parallel to this because they're not in conflict just yet. I don't want to force the ball to people and so that seems like the seedling of a conflict I just I think it's good that they haven't gotten there yeah. We'll say this though when you when I hear that from coaches I get a little bit nervous about what the Eagles situation is because that's the idea that my I system is so good that it will account for every possibility that's out here therefore everything will be fine. If you just do what my big old brain has come up with the truth is there are at some point. You just need to get the ball to somebody sometimes. They're very human reasons that you've got to do that and I'm a little surprised that Laura doesn't get that because that does kind of seem to be something that McVeigh does get well which is twenty thirteen states because lane kiffin was fired by in two thousand thirteen but now the coach said Vista bleacher report about why he believes the firing actually changed him for the better as a coach and a guy quote. Had that never happened. I think I'd still be so just drawn the chase of the championships and ego and quote well Mani. Do you believe that from Qissa know what. What do you think he's doing a Florida Atlantic Atlanta you think he's not trying to win? New drawn by anything that is ego related for him to become a different dude in the way that they sit there is going to take more than a sentence like this is going to require a deep deep profile than involves lane kiffin stripping away all kinds of layers because you can't go from being the dude that we have known him to be to be anything different without a serious eerie is come to Jesus He. He looked like he come to Jesus Day. It does sound like he wants to be. The Guy who is coming from the mountains of Tibet having achieved enlightenment but instead he's is actually in Boca and bogus a pretty sweet place spoke none of the pressure of Alabama or USC Boca. Kinda loves that he's there Boca will take in Kiffin in any shape or form they can get them but I will Al-Safir lane kiffin that when he says things that speak to presence and enlightenment in mindfulness I agree with what he's saying. I want him to be on the path towards all of that. It's just that it's a little early to declare enlightenment just but again what is your purpose. If it's not those things because hopefully he would be saying all I care about is making sure award these eighty-five young men that are under my care get the best outcomes that there is for them like you started talking that kind of north. I'm like okay link. If I'm here for you I want to see. What did you do it but if you tell me that all of a sudden some happened in just say? LSU Call kipness it. Hey how would you like the job you think he's saying. No you think he's turning their down 'cause. I don't think he's turned that down now. He he ain't at Florida Atlantic turned down other people to head great jobs to get there. This is the job he was able to get the one data point I have and then Kevin's defence on this subject matter is that it seems seems like he's been offered camera crews. He's been offered the cameras to come around and follow the team. In Lane. kiffin according to his telling says he turned them down because he doesn't want that kind of thing and I will say that does kind of seem lane kiffin events that are pretty damn low standard Atlanta's not forgetting what long ago mix save and had to send him home when they were preparing for a national championship game they had to send that dude hull come on now new now okay but now he's posting memes whereas like a dog augmon hanging out and it's like this is why the dogs happier the man is thinking about jets and planes and money and the dogs thinking about the dog hanging out with the man and beautiful actually what what are you doing trying to find light mint in closing thank you to NBC ten Philly for giving us this update from the new mayor of Philadelphia man just throwing babies out the window catching a like in the middle of the night when when he needed to be rescued from a burning building he stepped up. He says he caught a and an adult woman Leeann needed driver but I thought he was like you know public to to that random before Tucker. How was the eagles lost still on his mind in that moment must earlier the same day maybe twelve hours or so less than a day? I asked Tom Keene message would be to Nelson in a camera yes. He got the first time he is doc on at that. He knew that was close up. That is amazing. He's running for office and his campaign against Nelson Galore man. Can we just hope milkshake ducked down for what I appreciate about. That is just as you give me some tickets. Don't change my man man. GotTa have a coat and closing this. Lady's your hand out business cards for her trainer. This is at a place in Atlanta that you never did go mountain. My daddy raised me different for years caught up here. Wait for four there you go. That's right. That's right off off. He's not finished yeah left explain was stone mountain this they give her a TV show where she just go around and free to animals. was that the same dear because that's what the thing

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Hour 4: 1/21/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

28:58 min | 7 months ago

Hour 4: 1/21/20

"They cried passion than pageantry of college. Football leaves here. The Paul Finebaum show our four podcast cast and welcome back man. The first three hours of the show just absolutely flew by this. Is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul. Finebaum John Paul will be back in this chair tomorrow and we look forward to seeing him. Then but until seven o'clock we're here to take your calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five and we we have. Let's go to Steve in Arkansas. Thanks Steve Tony. How's it going going? Great a couple of questions What do you think of saying Pittman in the southeast but together and Philippe eighth ranks is is going to be a good thing? Arkansas or is is this a wait and see well. Let's let's talk about the staff you've got kimbrell coming in as your offensive coordinator and it's clear. The Sand Pittman wants to open up the offense and and give them 'cause they're are going to have to do that to have any chance to win at all when you here's the thing about Philippi Franks Philippa. Franks is a very very talented athlete. He sometimes uh-huh plays the quarterback position exceedingly well. I think you'll granted that Dan Mullen is as good a quarterback coach as there is in college football but there are times when he got frustrated with Philippe They Franks because he he would make a play that would make you go while and then he would make another play and he describes your head. Why did you throw that ball? The guy's not it opened on and on so you've got to learn with Philippa. You've got to learn to live with the inconsistency inconsistencies because ause he can give you these huge wonderful athletic place and so if you prepared to take that on Philippi Franks is the guy. That's GONNA help Arkansas win. And they haven't been doing much of that lately now they have. Thanks thanks for calling appreciate it. Let's go to Jack in Saint. Louis Hijack I was going on Tony. How you doing? We're doing great thanks. I'm an almost longhair and went to school out there Thirteen to seventeen. So this one say this. You know When I was there we're on top of the world? And they were. I was there for Game Day Against Alabama. y'All when we went to Tuscaloosa we beat them. LSU You name it. We were beaten everybody else. Everyone man over at Oklahoma state in the sugar bowl you now so Just won't sash real quick. You know hats off to Keith Carter. Ad For finally going out and getting somebody. Unlike you know Ole Miss Usually does what we're known for and getting somebody at old miss is he didn't care about that one out. Got Somebody goods can make a difference and you can already see the difference that he's making so I don't know if you're familiar with the staff. He's already put together. But in my opinion I mean it's got Bob Staff Nationally. It's an elite staff and apparently we may be getting Rodney Garner from Auburn and he put that gets the top top three four staff nation. No doubt well if if that were to happen that was shake the world. Let's let's just put it that way you're on Rodney's got guys you know or remember it could happen. And I'm hearing Freddie Freddie Roach might go to Alabama. So but here's here's my question to you so you got you got that staff He's gotten it got lane kiffin. These offense mindset I mean what what is your what would you and I don't know if you're familiar with the schedule that we got ahead of us when it's a it's a brutal title schedule I'd say we probably have one of tough schedule going. We got Baylor in. Houston we got Auburn. LSU Alabama Vanderbilt Florida back to back to back brutal schedule if if KIP and makes it out. Here's my question. kipling makes it out of that season going seventy seven six or seven. At least I mean that is. That's absurd so if he goes seven seven what what do you think the next year. What do you think year three year? Four like why Kim when we talk an sec championship stuff national championship. Where where would you see almost staff and how would you see them perform in years? Well I first of all it comes with the staff. What what the reputation is can they? Can they do it. Can they recruit at that level. Remember those teams names that you remember that have beaten Alabama two years in a row they had difference makers okay treadwell and all those guys they. They were elite players. That could play anywhere in America and he was able to bring those guys in. So that's number one. You've gotta recruit that level of athlete. You know you don't have to have thirty of them but you've you've got to have guys who will make a difference so that that's number one number two guys I don't we have the schedule and not if we do. Schedules throw it up there. You have really well. I know but every everybody in this league last year it was Auburn's in Texas. ADM's and South Carolina's turn in the opera. So this this year is it's probably going to be a there's a scheduling opening with Baylor. Okay are you kidding Baylor and Auburn. LSU In Alabama. In the first. I five game this. And then you get to play Alabama and then you get to play Flor then you gotta go on the road to Texas. Am Arkansas back to back. So yeah you gotta gotTa quarterback like Johnny is the fastest guy in the SEC. Lane Kiffin is probably chomping at the bit that guy so I mean it. It's a it's a possibility if the oldest o six six eight seven seven next year. I'm telling you better watch out. 'cause homeless gummed. Well it's to me it's GonNa be fascinating to see what Lane Kiffin Kiffin does with John. Rice plumbly okay. He's not the he's not the best passer in the world but he's there's nobody that can match him in speed so does he. Does he use him does he. Use Matt Corral L. as well because Matt corral throws it a little bit better so what Lane Kiffin finally does from an offensive philosophy standpoint is going to be fascinating right. I appreciate second McCall all right thanks for calling appreciate it. Let's go to Sam in Maryland. I Sam Hey Tony how you doing. I'm doing great thanks. I got one of just want to ask you a quick question. What can gamecocks do this year to help boost season a little bit well forcible first of all they don't they don't have to play that ridiculous schedule? That's the number one. You sit there and look at their schedule. Last year is mm-hmm tone ridiculous. Totally right number one in the country last year schedule so but they did beat Georgia. which was you know let? Let's start. Yeah little glimmers of brightness but not another star with the offense the offense was woefully inconsistent rested. Linski has the talent to be an elite quarterback. But he's got to be put in the writes. This got to be put into the right system and all that thing and with Mike Bobo coming in his offensive coordinator Bobo put up as an office coordinator put up incredible numbers his last three or four years with Mark Rick. So the guy knows offense. He knows how to develop quarterbacks look at his track record so I think the offense is going to be significantly. Better defense improved last year. So I think that but the problem is is that Florida and Georgia and Tennessee and all those folks are still giving scholarships to and you've got some ground to make up there there but I don't think there's any question that South Carolina's GonNa be better now. What is better? Look like in the one loss record. That's what we don't know quite yeah I don't I don't I don't I don't see us Win More than seven games but I I would like to thank would But we we do. Have some shift became. He's but that's never gimme in South Carolina. Unfortunately unfortunately and Georgia learned that too. I mean that was lesson learned to their no Kim East in. SCC At all no doubt no doubt. Nobody's giving nobody's giving anything away and they're the big three hundred pounders to maybe that first but anyway thank you bill answering that question for me One last question what do you think about much camp be honest. He he's got he's got to have a better season last year. They he felt like going into the year. This was his best team his best athletes and for them to finish the way they did was totally unacceptable so he knows he knows a big year for him and he's made the changes he helped will work. But this there's no way to sugarcoat it. It's a big is a big year fan. Thanksgiving put appreciate it. Don I appreciate it. Let's wrap up this segment with Gregg in Athens high. Greg they only thank you for taking my call. Sure I wanted to talk permitted about expansion and one of the things when people talk about equity That they're talking about the outcome and not the input and yeah when you have schools that are putting forty million dollars. A year into their football programs versus some putting fifteen to twenty that is an equitable. So why would you reward those schools. Who aren't doing everything other schools are doing before you expand and secondly NASCAR expanded its reach to reach more people? And that's what expansion football's about it's not about to get to the two best teams teams because we already have that so before we make the rush to do this. Let's think carefully because NASCAR has ruined itself. No there's there's this and and you've got you've got to be careful about warren down the product and nobody's you nobody's talking about recruiting and all that kind of stuff and I. I've just told my friends I said I know you wanna go to eight. But I'm telling you you gotTA prove to me that it's going to be better and I could be convinced I just haven't been convinced yet that it would be bad. Either I mean we've had of the twelve semifinal games I think there's been through that we're competitive and and you know. Oklahoma has been a joke joke as a four seed the last few years in. So why are we gonNA put an eight C team in there and it became the fodder for these well teams James. I don't think it's going to happen until the end of this current contract and this car contrast got six more years ago. So we'll see. Hey Greg I gotta run. Thanks for calling folks. We'll be back. We'll be back in. Just it's a little bit. We're going to take a break here. Pat Dooley from the Gainesville Sun will join us. And we'll talk about those Florida gators. This is Tony Bar Nar sedan for Paul. We'll be right back. Hugh listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast and welcome back. We're here to take your calls until seven o'clock at eight five five two four to seven to eight five Tony Bernhardt sitting in for Paul Feinban and let let the records show this January twenty one. But we're GONNA talk. We're GonNa Talk Pat Dooley and just a little while. But let's let's talk call before we get to Pat. Let's go to Cat Daddy. Daddy Tony Barnhart. How are you sir? Only how you doing today. I am doing great. We'll be here. I got something to funny and I just I just WANNA related do the football but basketball but my wife called me is blizzard store south new and she said honey. I want to go down to the courthouse and register. I didn't vote for president so VELVEETA. Allocate about nothing about no politician. You know why why now all all of a sudden as you wanna go ready to the vote on president. She said well they got nothing politics on my soap operas today and okay. WHO's responsible for can't what's interesting about this? I talked to somebody before I came on the air and we talked to say I said my my mom is not going to be happy because you take her stores and she ain't happy at all. All you ride a bike that I said well honey I gotta tell you. The Democrats have featured the president. Who is the president of the Democrat and I'm voting for trump donald code out all right? I can't can't daddy I got to scoot. I've got Pat Dooley on the other line to bring in here. Thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Bill Gates you there you go there you go and we bring on the aforementioned duly Larry there he is right. They're follow with jokes. And that was that was that was cat daddy there and now he wanted to say go gators. I'm very familiar with cat. Daddy Camila fight to keep it going this is vegas you know. Absolutely I Pat Dooley of the Gainesville Sun. Good longtime friend Pat. Let the record could show that. This is January twenty first and college. Football season's been over a little bit more than a week and today in today's show we. We had our fair share of Florida and Georgia fans. Who cannot wait to get to Jacksonville? Can to get to Jacksonville but these folks apparently the game. The gators are feeling good about life right now I think yeah you know they are. I think that the funny thing is Tony is right after the game the Orange Bowl Oh gain. There was a little bit of negative negatively out there because they thought they should've blown Virginia out. How much explain that? It's a bowl game. They had a chip on their shoulder. You know Florida Florida's and control the game pretty much didn't matter people were a little upset but once that kind of scabbed up up you know everybody was has been all. In of course Florida getting several commitments transfers recruits bad their class. So they feel like the talent gap is finally closing It may not be that much closer than it is. 'cause Georgia's still got the number of of You know five stars if you believe in the five stars versus four stars the interesting thing. Tony is the not on. Mullen is no Pfizer. Five stars I and Nelson. They've got four five stores. Two of them got declared five-star today. I didn't know they played a game. And then now of course they got Lindgaard for Miami. who was a five story? Brick Front Cox who was a fighter so they actually have four or five stars rocker. Well there you go there you go I I gotta ask you about your reaction to sleep. Frank's going Arkansas. You know it's interesting. We brought it up on our show down here and It was literally all anybody. Talk about The kind of the legacy I was on with Chris. HOLLERS PAT Bradley earlier. Pat Bradley asked me what is what is the Arkansas fans can. What can they expect and I said a love hate relationship? It's it's coming. I mean he's GonNa do things that make Q- It's like you know you want you want to date him but after a while you get mad. You can't eat them anymore and then you go back to them you know. I mean he that kind of quarterback back these he's he's very polarizing when he was here not from his so much from his actions but a little bit from his actions. You know telling the crowd to shut up you know and it's Home Stadium. You know going into the crown and Miami when they were still ball the play and then he's filling a pick and that kind of turned people also there are things like that and You know is more on the field just some bad decisions he made and then some unbelievable plays anyway. He was kind of a you know kind of it was Kinda love or hate but it was. It was definitely vote. Well I tell somebody earlier that you with Philippe a he's GonNa do great things but you gotta live live with with the plays it make scratch here if you if you're prepared to live with that he's going to do some he's GonNa do some great things for absolute. Listen speaking of quarterbacks cal. Trask obviously had a phenomenal year. After he took over after the injury to Philippa my question is they spot played emory Jones in used him in some case situations. What seems to be the dynamic between those two guys pretty much the same you think Amory Joan gets Imma Jones gets more looks are more snap Absa? What's the early indication how that's GonNa work? Well I think you're GONNA see him. Get more snaps because with Kyle traff skin there That quarterback run is a surprise element. Only it's not part of the offense when emory then there it becomes for the offense and that's the offense they really want to run but obviously with Kyle you know. He's not as good a runner and don't forget he. He had severe injury to his knee against Auburn and came. I'm back from it but you you wonder how much they want him out there. So I think another thing I would think they've gone to emory and said look don't transfer don't go uh somewhere else we're gonNA use you more this year. We're going to let you throw the ball a little bit more. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA be more exotic and I think with their schedule. I think it allows into I think last year you open with Miami. And then you've got that game with Kentucky and Tennessee and it just felt like all year like every game was a huge game and I think this year. It's a little softer schedule. And they'll be able to to maybe use them a little more so I would if I was going to bet on right now both stay healthy. I would say it's going to be more like a you know. Eighty twenty. This year was probably ninety. Three seven but I think I don't I don't know ever get to the League Peabo. Well when you think about it pat me last year I thought was a great year for the gators. Yeah okay they lost the LSU one of the greatest teams we've ever seen and by the way they let it L. Lsu by touchdown in the second half so. That's one lost the other loss to Georgia in Jacksonville by a touchdown on in a game they absolutely cut a one so I think all things considered it pretty good year for the caters. Now I think it was. I think I think Dan did a great job. Don't forget Tony Tony. Because they got killed on the transfer portal last year in on some injuries. They were down to sixty six hour shift plans to the issue though. Oh I didn't like the roster depth issues going into the season. They overcame them for the most part but probably heard him a little bit in those two games this year. I don't think I think that's GonNa be the issue. I think they've done a great job of recruiting. Obviously get more transfers in. They didn't get hurt with the draft They will seniors but not with the juniors then we lost one guy and Henderson. Who's WHO's the law certainly but As you know. Lsu Lost Nine Alabama lost six Florida Lord lost once. That's a that's a plus for Florida so I liked the roster actually better this year than I did last year. So we'll see if they can you know. Execute continued continued. Improvement continued to get better. But Tony the bottom line. Is that offense of lines. GotTa be better. They can't be a you know I. I know people like to talk about them with a playoff team teams. I have to see that offense of line. Perform against good teams for I could ever get to that point all right Pat Dilly Gainesville Sun gator sports dot com. I'm pat thanks for joining us. You take yourself kicked on okay. When we come back we will have Michael Collins our AH candy for ESPN? He's at Torrey Pines. One of the most beautiful places on earth. Please join us after the break. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paula. Fine you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. All right. We're back in this is going. That'd be a lot of fun because we're going to bring in Michael Collins who is our Keti. ESPN and keeps us on top of things. All were Golf Michael Collins. How are you my friend? And what's going on man. Good to talk to you listening to some. gator talked before I come on because I live in Gainesville Florida coach. Smullen son goes to the same school. My son goes through both them. Playing fifth grade. Basketball and coach mullins. Coaching Basketball Team to man is multitasking. Tasking that is awesome that I know you told me earlier. You are an avowed gator. Hate us so you just. You just can't be public about it anymore. I no you know what I'm not GONNA lie. Man I'm straight up. I was gator hater. Haider root against them hard core but now that coach Mullins is there are like my kid his kid cool and he's a really good dude and he's into golf so I'm like you know what I'm not going to root against Y'all I might. Now we know gator gear might not root for you but I am ruined against you. So that's as good as I got for right now well Michael. I'm incredibly Jealous Alice. Because you are on one of my favorite plots of land owner Earth Torrey Pines and La Hoya California first of all. I know you're gonNA play in the pro-am tomorrow. No that's going to be a lot of fun. What what's the? What's the weather like out there today? So that's the downside. Everyone assumes a San Diego La Hoya California. It's gotta be like eighty five degrees out there. You see wearing long sleeves right. This is a sweater that I'm wearing so every morning we're going to be in the forties. And the I I isn't getting to seventy all week. It's going to be the high and there's GonNa be a couple times when it's only going to be sixty degrees so this is why I tell people yes is beautiful. Yes this La Hoya yes. The sunsets and of course is green is going to look beautiful. But it's not gonNA be. I like wearing shorts all the time and this week I knew bring bring one payer source with me as a problem for me absolutely well the farmers insurance classic out there you know for those of us who are just getting in the swing of things watching golf it probably has escaped some of us. I did not know that tigers going for eighty three the all time number of championships in the professional national golf tour is eighty to set by. Sam snead obviously tiger has tied that. What about is he playing? Well Enough Michael Michael to win number eighty three this week. Okay and the other thing. That's put so much expectations on tiger. Woods you also have to remember this place that you love here. Torrey Pines Tires one eight time Yup once that. US Open on a broken leg and then seven times he won the tournament and was here that also was tiger woods before four back surgeries. Okay since two thousand thirteen was was the last time he won here. He's finished type or eightieth. He's withdrawn. He's missed the cut. He's finished tied for Twenty third and tie for twentieth. Now we'll tell you this tigers coming into this week in really good form. Remember the last two times uh-huh well last three times. He teamed up he wants those. Oh Dan he played pretty good at the hero. Got Himself into position there. Oh yeah the President's Cup three as is the captain. Yeah but the problem for tiger. This week is going to be the temperature like I talk to you about. The thing for tiger is tiger needs warm temperatures to keep his back loose correct so when he's out here in one of these mornings when it's like forty nine fifty degrees. If there's one ten minute wait on a par five. It's going to be a problem for tagger. That being said is still tiger woods. And it's still Tori so he'll find a way to get it around this place I just don't know if this is the spot where he's GonNa get win number number eighty three. If it's not tiger is it. Is it rory a WHO who who is playing well enough coming into the season you think to win out there. We'll see like rory. This is the first time we're going to see him this year. So I'm not GONNA say he's demand and Phil Mickelson is playing. He played last week. But you know feel still working working with a brand new body so I'm not putting anything on field whatsoever I like one of the young guys. I like a guy like Matthew Wolf. I like the Guy I was gonNA say. Column More Cower but the problem is he's playing with tiger and so when you put a guy like that WHO's really good but really young and you pair them with higher for today's normally you try a little bit too hard grind a little too much and then you're out position going into the weekend to try to win so I also love Jon Rahm. They know he's one here before got his first. PGA Tour Win here chipping in on eighteen from behind the green. So it's like John Roms one of of those deals where when he's confident and comfortable spot and he's confident and comfortable here. Man is hard bet against him. There's going to be fun to watch. Listen I know Oh you're a big college football. I Know You Love College football so I'm GonNa ask you this can you. Have you seen anything in your life like like. LSU gave us this year. No no that was I. I you know as as many times as you because I'm in the off all football pro and college so as many times as we talk about some college programs like you know this this team could beat somebody like Cincinnati. Who was the worst team like? LSU Hugh was the closest. I think we've seen to pro football at a college level. I mean there's still not there. It's still not a pro team but that's the closest just we seem to it. I mean isn't Joe Borough is older than one of the NFL quarterback. You WanNa talk about a guy who's the maturity level that you see out of Joe. Borough is the as a golf guy. I compare Joe Borough to Jordan spieth. When Jordan spieth was in high school and college? Everyone was like when this dude hits. The ground is game over and see the same thing for Joe Borough if you give him any kind of offensive line with weapons that are just all right like dad. Dude is gonNA tears things up when he gets into the pros. Yes absolutely well along those same lines because you do follow pro football Lamar Jackson I. I don't know we've ever seen a guy do the kind of things and live to tell about it. That Lamar Jackson has done. What do you think about the kind of season he had? I'm nervous for him because as we know sometimes when you do special things on the football field the following year you try to do even more special things things and that's what some bad things can happen. But I think when it comes to him like as long as he keeps doing exactly what he did this year here which is a little bit of everything but a little bit of everything awesomely. Mass Sky is the limit. And let's be honest like did you see them. Losing in I I mean Tennessee had a very very special year. And it took something really special in Derrick Derrick Henry to go ahead and beat Baltimore. Do I see them doing it next year. No no no next year I. I'm praying that we get the Baltimore more. Kansas City matchup that. I'm pretty sure everyone except those in Tennessee. Were hoping is here so yeah. It's going to be the Mars. The special special do but you know you talk about Lamar Patrick homes. You're not GonNa Take Patrick homes on your team if you draft in starting like okay. I love the the fact that Lamar now. He's still loves looking at people on going. Be Like you know I'm running back. I do all right you know I do. I Do Co. for running back like you know what well keep that chip on your shoulder I frigging loving and us. Oh forget Michael Collins does hit the media and the caddy podcast with our good friend Matt Berry Microcosm it's been a real tree. Thanks checking in with us. Yeah man and I'm one hundred percent which you when it comes. Jack Nicklaus his eightieth birthday. Our first podcast casts Mattie and the caddy had Jack Nicklaus as a guest. We had so much fun on that podcast and then after we were done recording Jack Hell core for another forty. 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He's neighbors the head coach down in Boca taking over for Lane Kiffin over at Fau. So gentlemen let's start with you right here do you like the idea a quote unquote retread versus an up and coming coordinator. No I don't like the idea when you look at the history right now. The current history. You're talking about who came from a group of five Bronco. Mendenhall came from a group of five Matt. That rule came from a group of five flight. Came from a group of five. Everything is telling you that. These young coaches these Cuarto unproven young coaches and a group of five. They are the ones that are setting the standard right. Now whether it's because they work harder relate to the players better. I don't know what it is. But the fact is the old coaches aren't getting done. Go with the young got proven guys. They will get the job done for you. They're hungry yeah to me. It's not one-size-fits-all is not. One shoe fits all. It's it depends on the coach and it depends on the situation waist. I look at a guy like tagger and he hasn't really had much success out of late. Everybody knows what he did early on in his career. Florida where we say early on. It was truly just three so years ago but to me the taggart hires a little surprising whereas the Dow zero seven and six seven. Six six and six in Boston. College he's kind of a perennial Reni over five hundred type of code so that also it it can be to me perceived as a lazy higher. That's when I do agree with Vilma. Maybe you do go get a younger coach. But here's the risk for all of these prominent coaches at. JV named you also have the coordinators become head coaches who struggle and you know JV v.. Right now even at your Alma Mater with Miami Manny Diaz. He's having the learning curve that I think some of the other coaches that have been head coaches. Don't have to have. Yeah that's I believe we're agreeing and you're taking it from a different perspective. That's exactly what I'm saying that it's not necessarily the the hot defensive coordinator offense coordinator from in school you go higher higher. The t the coach that has experienced in the group of five. He's already taken his lumps. He's already had these mistakes. So then now you bring them up to the power five five. Those are the ones right now that are producing. They have good talent good schemes good programs but we do know real quick. What I don't like like is kind of the recycled hired? So this guy was a big name Shirley he'll be able to come produce when keep in mind. He didn't produce it where he was that for a reason. So why not. Just take blind faith and try to pick a former big name out of a hat and hope for the best happens a lot in the NFL. But there's a question what's the best way to do it in the collegiate level and how for USF because they go and go snatch Jeff Scott out of Clemson and think about this guys. Let's take a look at the continuity. The CLEMSON has had on this coaching staff. Because there's nothing short of fantastic right. Davos been there since we got. Okay been there since. Oh wait as well on staff Elliott. Elliot Venables mean all of these guys there since twenty eleven. So I'll start with their. This is really hurt Alabama in the past the staff turnover over. Will this affect Clemson going forward. Well first and foremost. That's a phenomenal job. By Dabo Sweeney to keep that continuity imagine the culture. He must've built for not only coaches and one of the hardest professions to want to stay somewhere that long in lesser roles. Now to your question yes it will hurt. And this is the next Depp in elite coaching. That I think Dab a will make and we'll have to make his. How good can you be when you're losing coaches year in and year out Sabin has said and I've talked to people that played for saving and worked for saving and they'll say he knows coaches are coming through to try to get the next job? Imagine how hard that is. I'm interested to see what data can do. Yeah I liked it the less I commend. Daboh for being able to keep his coaching staff for so long and it also speaks to the culture and and a testament to him in the country's creative because you frankly have coaches that have valued the culture that he's created over money. Now there comes a point. There's a tipping point and I believe now is we're we're going to start to see that Clemson can't continue to give raises to these assistant coaches to keep them there. What's what's GonNa Happen is other? Schools are now looking at Clemson. The coaching staff and saying all right the market is such where we can offer more than what Clemson can offer to keep you as an assistant. We know you love it there but at some point money talks. And that's the tipping point right now that is going to see over the next two three five years where coaches they're going to have had to say look financially. I have to take this job. I have to take this opportunity now with that being said if it's a slow turnover for Daboh I seriously don't see much much of a drop off because again it's not just exit. Knows it's the culture. He's created their own to understand. Go ahead no no I was gonna say just when you look at it to an ogre on trying to create that as well to keeping Dave Aranda there as long as he can. Joe Brady's the INS and I think he's comfortable with that staff now. I think that's one of the reasons why Alabama had their issues last year and it make it even worse guys soon. Because I want to get into this show. Because right now link Kevin's putting together his staff over red old. Mitch just got hired at Oxford and part of it is trying to get some Bamba guys on that. Coaching staff including Navy Scott Cochran his strength conditioning coach that he worked with so. I don't know if you guys had a chance to watch it. But these saving Bella check. HBO Specialist Fantastic because he talks about this specifically weekly savings says the ballot check when these guys get those jobs in most cases you helped him. They have a hard time understanding. Why can't take your people? I'm going to help you. You get a job so that you can take what I've tried to build here and destroy the continuity of what I had. It's amazing how some of the assistants don't understand why that's not a good thing thing. Now that came on the heels of saving taking the job in Michigan State guys and not taking any of the guys that were on Bella check staff at the browns when they coach together so Vilma is at right or wrong if lane. Kiffin her anyone's trying to poach other coaches twofold. It's a layered question because you you look and say i. What is the relationship between Tween Lane Kiffin and Nick Sabin and this example before lane kiffin was hired by Nick Sabin? If they were friends they were buddies that they hung out together off the off the UH field or whatever their situation was and then he brings him onto his staff and then now they have a relationship or working relationship and off the field relationship as friends. Then I understand understand why he's saying it's not right to do that to your friend if this was a business relationship mix saving. Didn't know lane kiffin before he hired him only knew of them only realize how good offense would be if he brought him on then lane kiffin comes on he does exactly what you ask them to do. And what you're paying them for and then he leaves. There was no good bye. No hugs friendship friendship. So then it's business for KIP. And he's doing exactly what any other coach would do and go out and find the best. Excuse me the Best Coaches for his coaching staff. So I can see it both ways if they weren't friends strictly business. There's nothing wrong with that. Here's my thing if I'm Nick Sabin why would I care because what we have to realize. Initially even he has a secret ingredient than everybody doesn't have. We're coming off the heels of thanksgiving. I tried to borrow my friends. Collard green recipe. But I made it and I'll tell you right now. It didn't taste haste the same because I don't know the secret ingredient. It's the same thing with Nick. Sabin all of his assistance leave and they try to duplicate the Sabin Way. Well the same way. It doesn't work for everybody else in the same manner that it works for saving. Just like Bill Belichick. You have guys like Eric. Mangini who've left guys like Matt Patricia. Who've let right now coach for the lions even guys like rail? He's turning things around for the titans. Let's divert away from the NFL. But what I'm saying is if I'm knicks even it doesn't even matter header because they don't have the secret sauce anyway but Acho Auto. You're saying that but at that point the last three times Alabama has faced the top twenty five team. They do say they. I haven't won any of these games. And so you start thinking okay. Maybe it does. Maybe that's secret. Ingredient is no longer there and everyone's catching up with them because of the coaching tunnel. But to me to me I think it's more parody in college football. I think now at this point the players across the board or better. It's not as much as oh well. They have have this drink coach and because they got Alabama strength coach. All of a sudden these players are exponentially stronger now they can compete with Alabama. Know what it is. There's a plethora of schemes now across the landscape of college football. There's a plethora of talent now across the landscape of college football and that has led to more parody more than somebody poaching a coach Sir. A lot of talented coaches around the I agree with you to an extent Nacho. I don't believe there's as much parody in college football just yet. Maybe among the top teams atop by I teams not across all of college football and one aspect. We're not thinking. Oh there's the energy time Spain on Nick Sabin having to go and find signed a new hire that it'd be a good fit so remember nick. Sabin spends countless countless hours. What recruiting looking at talent? He goes over schemes defensively. We knows defensive guru so that time taken away is what he has to now used to go find a new coach or a new strength coach wherever it is that time away from him winning championships. That's that's the way he views it so I can understand where you're saying the Labor I had to put it so labor intensive find the right guy. The right fit only to poach them that that's taxing. I understand where where he's coming from but again it's a business. Yeah listen and the only parody they have is obviously the color green recipe that you can't put together so we need to get that together all right coming it up tonight seven. PM Eastern Espn the APP Twenty Ninth Annual Home Depot College Football Award Show from where autos at college football hall of fame and the at l.. Oh Fowler hosts it with Corso Herbstreet Desmond Rinaldi and Maria Taylor coming up to play or not to play. Aj Dylan skipping the bowl game. Jonathon Taylor said he's going to go. Who made the right call? We'll tell you next challenge. Football lies is presented by ice cold. We'll junkier pepper. The official drink fans Ville. No one's been part of more first days of work and Carl Hart and in the same way rookies have to keep earning respect car. Heart never never stops earning. The respect of hardworking people like you from building rugged dear. That's tougher than any. I are worst day of work to reengineering the classics to outworked work. The Future Trust your car hearts to keep doing their job long after you begin doing yours since eighteen eighty nine cards. Got Your back. Twenty four seven visit car heart dot dot com forward slash. CFP Now for today's Wendy's weekend. Watch one game on the schedule this week. And it's a good one army navy game all is GonNa be on David alcon Perry senior signal caller phenomenal season only QB to throw four thousand dollars and watch for fifteen hundred yards and isn't Dawson. Jason is eighty two total. QBR still ranks ninth in this season. I tell he's going to play in a game. Aj Dylan he's done. He's skipping his senior season in in fact he's skipping Boston. College Bowl Game The Birmingham Bowl Against Cincinnati on January the second now he's BBC's all time leading rusher guys over four thousand yards so odd show. Oh is this the right move another big time player saying I'm playing in the ball game boys absolutely. It's the right move without a doubt. Unequivocally there's no other way that I can state just how right a move it is and it's the right move because Aj Dillon has carried the ball eight hundred and forty five times in his college career. You want to know what he has to show. Oh four a seven win season a seven win season and bus forty six win season. So I'm mad at AJ Dylan for wanting to skip a game against Cincinnati where he has nothing left to prove move. Not at all I love it and I agree with you. I don't have any issue will play skipping a bowl game only issue. I have is if they handle it the right way what I mean by that. If you are at the end of the season you tell coach you tell players. Hey I'm going to have a discussion with my family. The people closest to me about whether Josh should play in this ball game or not as prepared for the NFL. You come back. Hey I decided my family's side of whatever it is that we are not or I'm not going to play in this bowl game guys. Thank you for everything you've done. I appreciate it and then you move on and that's as business like as you. Can you still appreciate your teammates. You appreciate the coaches but if you handle it well I have no issues Kaziro personal like we get it right. It's a business but is it just a running back situation or you or this is across the board. No matter what position can you may play. You're okay with these guys sitting out. Tb I like it across the board. Because let's listen the coaches and the money that's being made. We all hold on much money coaches getting paid and how much is being made off these players and until they enact some sort of likeness that we're waiting for the AA to clarify when they come back from the holidays the days I liked that they're thinking about their futures are thinking about the business side of the game which frankly has not been done for ten fifteen years and I'm never going to bash someone for we're going out and trying to pass prosper and gain financially to better themselves and their families to Vilmos point. Think about how much money is changing hands during bowl. All Games coaches getting bonuses coordinators getting Bonuses Position Coaches Getting bonuses athletic directors universities are profiting well during this game of monetary musical chairs. You want to know the player. WHO's the guy who's left out as the athletes themselves? So go chase your money you served. You've worked you've done all you can for year after a year in college. Now it's time to protect yourself protect your health. And if there's a lot of money on the line and just a a ballgame that to you may not mean as much to that particular athlete. Go go chase your dreams right. We'll think about this imagine if AJ Dylan got hurt and we say it's now season any career ending injury. What are we GONNA do say? Oh man tough love. No one's going to hand him any money. No one's going to say here's a check for what you would have made as a first round running back and won rookie of the year. It's not happening now. I think we all agree on this type of game but all of a sudden if someone says hey. I'm not playing in the College Football playoff because of that. Let's have a revisit of this whole entire conversation art They got no what happens. But you never know right Saturday night. Eight eastern five Pacific. ESPN eighty fifth annual heisman. Trophy ceremony from New York City. Joe Borough Royal Jalen hurts. Justin fields or teammate chase. y'All not going to be there. This Guy Brench my heart. Jonathan Taylor seven player in history to rush for six thousand yards in his career. And guys he did it in just three seasons now we will get to see him suit up in the Rose Bowl versus Oregon but is not one of the heisman finalists and probably deserved that. Invite because look at this season. Compared to other notable heisman winners like Bo in her soul and fellow Badger Dane. The numbers are better in many different ways. So when it comes down to a village did the voter snub. Jonathan Taylor this year. Oh of course. They snubbed. The how can you tell me a guy as prolific as. He's been the past. Three seasons is not voted top four war and invited into New York. That's crazy to me what he's done any college football fan. That sat and watched these games and watch. Jonathan Taylor run. The football knew that he was a special talent and for them to ignore him has now basically proven. What the heisman? It's it's a popularity contest. That's all it is and I can't stand it because he deserved to be there and frankly I'm glad that he's given us one more game. I'm excited about it. Because I love watching him on the football down to tell you got snubbed. Man It's it's a disappointment. J. The year exactly right. How Jonathan Taylor there is beyond me? I mean you look a guy like chase young and I'm a defensive player and chased young as an absolute salutes died but if Ohio state doesn't have chase young. There's still probably sitting at thirteen to know if Wisconsin doesn't have Jonathan Taylor. I don't even know how many games they would've won all season again. Six thousand career yards over the course of three season. If you just want to talk about this season twenty one touchdowns any proved he could do it. Cats in the ball with five touchdowns out the backfield. What can't this man do? I don't get it at all. How do you leave him out overall guys and you take a look at it too? He was eligible for every single game. That's not something that chase. y'All said remember young had to sit out the two games for a complete incident that he at least was forthcoming about so I thought maybe that should count a little bit. Is it kind of crazy last. Quick question it on here. That Joe Pearls GonNa win this thing hands down. We believe because forty touchdowns only one interceptions for Justin fields. Could this be a race. Well I don't think it'll be race mainly because of all the hype Joe Borough has. And what Jarrow Joe Borough Dead At. LSU We haven't seen done at Lsu in quite some time if if not ever did at Ohio state. We kinda saw Dwayne Haskins. Do it last year with Dwayne Haskins having fifty passing touchdowns so I think Justin feels lost a little bit of that luster in that regard but think about this with Justin field forty touchdowns and one interception. He also had ten rushing. He's second nationally in total touchdowns and best nationally in interceptions options. So Justin field would run away with any other year. You have this kind of pass a right back on over you Birdseye Borough Wednesay. There's nothing to talk about what was going going to say. Listen that's That's fine with me we'll be Celebrated and I'm sure they'll have a trophy out there in front of Tiger Stadium especially if they can win this year with a title. Are we got more. We're coming up onto college football live and here's a quick look at this year's ROTC senior of the year award presented by Navy Federal Credit Union. Congratulations Cadet Charles. Bloom Bloom the North Carolina State University Air Force. ROTC Cadet Nicole Butler of the Notre Dame Army ROTC Midshipmen Jennifer Phil Brown with the University of in Florida Marine. ROTC being named the Navy Federal Credit Union ROTC seniors of the year Congrat-. y'All that was awesome. Awesome seeing this a lose like Jagger. 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Head coaches and Miami Crisp Lyman up in Manhattan. Kansas State and Dana Look Happier Dana. Come on it wasn't that bad the first year and of course this the dancing legend mack. Brown will Max Miles as well too so overall guys will start looking at it. Which one of these coaches had the best first first year Vilma who you pick it? Come on man no doubt. It's Mac Brown Mack Brown to win six wins go bowling. He has a true freshman. Sam How come in. Everyone's like what the hell are you doing. You're already had a quarterback they're all he does have that man throw for. ACC see see record. Forty five passing touchdowns Beats Trevor Lawrence over there at Clemson for the freshman record everything about Mack Brown and what he's done to change a culture that team that change the program has been the up and up and oh by the way he's recruiting pretty damn well too so watch out. ACC backgrounds coming the shoutout to Kansas State head coach first and foremost because he did some big things climbing over there upsetting Iowa state beating Oklahoma during college football and chaos. But enough about that. Let's get to my Guy Mack Brown and everything did I understand. He had some losses. I don't care about those losses because it's five combined losses by twenty two points and my bias. Yes I'm bias. I do I care not at all Matt Brown that man. There's a reason he's in the College Football Hall of fame. I'm sure you might have a statue somewhere in this room sitting in if not. He deserves one because when he did at. UNC phenomenal asked him this past week. And I said Matt You WanNa National Title at Texas. We went to another national title when I was there with you at Texas. What are you most proud out of? You said honestly this season at North Carolina he said because this season. I've had the most fine and I remember what it feels like to win. So Matt Brown. He for sure had the best season. You guys miss it. It is a UNC coach but it's UNCC UNC CHARLOTTE. How about will healing? Did you guys not see this. My Man is right here first year taking over this program. He's got he's got the mascot head he's got the dead body going on. How can you not give it to them for the first first year? Birds the if you're talking about party of the year by a head coach. He is definitely party of the. If you're talking about something I'm GonNa take take the Vegas with me. He's definitely one taking vegas with a by the way also shadow to ally drink wits remember APP state. He took that over one looking at twelve one this season looking to see yeah. He got that money right there. That auto tight money at Mizzou. Hey thanks for watching a little college football live. I'm a loud and bold radio announcer. Who was hired to tell you about the loud and bold flavors in Tyson? Anytime there's chicken's necks. Their boldly says it full of flavor. 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Hour 1: 12/11/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

35:52 min | 8 months ago

Hour 1: 12/11/19

"Hello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia with a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr Pepper attaches. Where every day is Saturday in? Everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change because the only season this college football football season get a taste of fans bill. This fall during a college football game near you. Dr Pepper. The official drink a fans Ville grab some. Today you cried passion and Patterns Three of College Football Leaves here on the Paul Finebaum show our everyone podcast. Welcome to the program. We have reached the middle of the week and Glad all of you are with us. We think we've got a pretty good show on tap gap live from New York on this cold winter day even though it still autumn. Thanks for being a part of the program. Let's get right to it. Let's share some headlines with you that may find it interesting. NCWA highly probable. Congress passes athletic compromise. What does this mean we will dig? Deep into into the conversation are emory had plenty to say about it members of Congress Care About College sports they recognize how important it is to American Society You don't want to do harm. They want to make it better but it's going to be a long road. It's not going to be something. That happens overnight. Thanks mark for checking in with us. Jabre is one of the Bras Award for the top assistant coach. Bad for a guy that was Just pretty much an intern last year with the saints. Look at the difference of thirty one percent thirty one point three points a game to forty six seventeen passing assing. Td's to forty nine nearly double the passing yardage and Improve the yards per play made a lynn. Boden is one of the Paul. Hornung award is college. Football's most versatile player. It is a word season in case you were wondering why we were sharing those awards with you. Boden was the only F. B. S. player. Actually the only one over the last twenty five years at least three hundred passing receptions twelve hundred rushing yards arjun three hundred receiving season. You can say he did everything but so popcorn. Here's what's coming up on the program this afternoon Eh. Josh Bertha Cini from North West Arkansas host. A number one show out there he will tell us what. The reaction's Matt ruled Canada for coach of the year from Baylor. Go into a big Vince Thompson will be here and Chris Lowe who has spent some time. I'm with WHO else but the lane train prefers. Your phone calls here on this Wednesday afternoon at eight five I five to four two seven. Two eight five always a fun part of the program and let's start with Mike who is in Georgia. Mike thank thank you good afternoon. Hello Paul how are you. I'm doing wonderful. Thank you for your issue but yes sir. Yeah I think they will. I think they win. Yes well I would hope so fingers crossed. I always I never go to. I don't want jinx from you know. Well don't worry about jinxing him. Dan Onto in charge. You don't have to worry about that. Dave is in baton rouge Russia Dave. I'm well thank you. I'm sorry I had you on speaker phone for a second. Let me tell you Mr Fong Bond could not been any better yesterday in Baton Rouge. We had coach. Oh winning all the awards. We had. Joe Brady winning all the awards art we got borough going to get the heisman and in the middle of all this yesterday the day verandas story broke. And you would have thought doc Baton Rouge has stopped with the phone calls between everybody yesterday so we dodged the bullet for sure. Yeah you know what what I thought was the biggest part of the Aranda going. I think it was two Vegas was the distraction that would be created for the playoffs and championship. And listen I if that's what he wanted if you wanted to be head coach. Obviously he's considering it. But I've watched this before with coaches and no matter what the circumstances are seeing with Kirby smart. I've seen it with Jeremy PRUITT. I've Seen Lane Kiffin. I've seen it with Dan Mullen. When he was Florida David Cutler finally walked away when he was at Tennessee? It's always a problem uh-huh and for Lsu that was a big deal keeping him yesterday no doubt. Because they're scared me was recruiting Paul. Well listen Yeah I mean. We're talking a couple of days away from national signing day seven days away that would you would. You would have lost some players. There's no getting around because there isn't a replacement for Dave random. Thanks for the call really good to have you on. Mike in Birmingham is up next. Hey Mike Hey I saw. Hey what's what's up. I watched it on your own career situations you make an ethnic yet. What's Today's not too has he? Is He made nasty. If you're gonNA stay going pro yeah I don't think so. Yeah do you think thanks for the call appreciate John Up next in Baton Rouge I John a Hey Paul Good Day to you. Thank you I. I just a kind of already mentioned about Several Times but the first thing I wanted to mention originals the playing surface over Atlanta with all that Robert massie fish for it really seemed to affect Collide Edwardsville Layer. You know he's a dynamic back he does a lot of real special moves and He's a slipping and losing his flirting quite a bit on that surface and Kinda hates them. Have to go back play on that surface again. And even though it's closer for our fan base but Yeah I know yeah I thought that was. I never really got chance to talk to anybody there about what the problem was but it was falling down all over over the place. It seemed like too much of on there to me. I know they might first place ever saw that on. The field is in the superdome with the saints. Thanks but But anyway another thing I wanted to mention Always Alabama fans they keep Mentioned in about saving Going to stay stay you know same as stay forever. But the safe in the sixty eight years old and I don't know how many more years he's GonNa on wall fight the coach and you know you don't need any more money for sure but Everybody act like he's in his forties but he won't be. Yeah it's interesting. I mean I think Alabama fans are are so used to saying well we have Nick Sabin that That they're not really facing reality. I Yeah I don't know what he's going to leave and you know I'm not going to bore you with his health and his his physical condition. He's a he's in good shape but sixty eight is still sixty eight. I mean I I I. I've seen a lot of coaches reach the the latter part of their sixth season. There is usually some decline. I know that sounds like an indictment of People Listen There are plenty of people in their seventies and eighties. Who are healthy? And the president of the United States is seventies. Several candidates are in their upper for seventy. So it doesn't mean you can't do it but what it does mean is that people will use it against you right Sure a AH humorous no I kinda wanted to mention that Figured everybody's been beaten less miles door down trying to get him to become a coach their football teams. He was such a dynamic coach. He did win three games this year. World I'm Kinda off so less train. The media has a blind spot for him But I wouldn't. I wouldn't hire less miles to coach my I My my grandson's PEEWEE football team. I don't think he's much of a coach. I don't even have a grandson herald is up next next. Good afternoon. Harold Welcome to the program. Yes how are you good. Yeah I WANNA talk about the up and coming playoffs and the final rankings and some of the bowl games this her. I'm from Ohio. Big Fan of Buckeyes good. I could you turn that toned down so we can hear you better. Yeah yeah sure do I. In fact I put it on Mute Yeah. I'm just glad that we could find a good quarterback Lsu from Ohio to help them and finally win good point. Good thanks for the call. Appreciate Harold let's say Peyton Necks Faden Happy Holidays Palm. How you you been sir? Well thank you Quite a couple of questions chase young versus Derrick Brown. Who Do you think's GonNa have more successful in his career? I think it's a marginal debate. I think chase young the best player I've seen in college football this year. That helps you helps answer the question. Okay all right now. The question I got about a chat You know I still don't really get who's calling the whole place who's calling the plays and all that We're not supposed to but there's nothing there's nothing to guess Paine Gus Malzahn he. He's the play Collared Auburn and he'll remain the play caller. Thank you for the call. Mike is in Georgia. Hey Mike Hello Paul. This is there is nothing. I don't know if you've made me I called you wake zero. I do remember yes asking for prayers from other I sure do can you give us an update. Yes Sir I can. It's amazing We've got the test results back the last Tuesday and older lesions on her brain or gone or either in remission and she has to have test every three months that is fabulous dealers. News listen no no one's ever Underestimated the the power of prayer. And in this case Mike. Let's hope let's hope that was part of the factor and let's also also hope and pray that she remains In in recovery. Thank you for the call run. We have guests galore including that rule in the next hour. More of your phone calls when we we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. We are here and we got a lot to do today. Some really big guests. Let's continue eighteen and more calls and Jodi is up next. Hey jodie hurry biles either. I got Comment Follow Lsu people you might be Nixon. He might be on the decline. He might be a when he retired. Paul devils what they're talking about. I don't understand well first of all I'm not sure dabble is coming. Why would Dabbagh leave where he is where he basically plays one tough game a year? Maybe two you know double with Alabama you walk all receive. You Know Double One national championship in Nineteen Ninety two at roadside bad Alabama as his running Paul. Yeah maybe his dream job. Jody but If he wins again this year he's already won three national championships as a head coach. Why would you go to Alabama and have to deal with the The the comparison Nick Sabin Bear Brian. Oh No comparison just walking along step to do why. Why would you tell? Tell me why you think Alabama is. He's a better job than Clemson. Come off ball and then you know there's a better job and I'm not sure it is. They ain't got the resources resources in Alabama the Alabama. Are you serious. You Know Alabama Auburn. That's all pro team in Alabama. Have have you ever been to Clemson. Yes I have been there. Recently in their facilities are equal to or better than Alabama. I mean you know we can all but when all of the different show is you've got your head buried in the in the two five live and sometimes you have to get outside the area code to see the rest of the world. I'll probably do that everyday man. I'm glad you did do that everyday. Yeah I do that it every day while we're trying to try to get outside of roll tide roll for a second you might see. There's a different world out. There bothers in Ohio. And you're on the air. Hello Bob Hey how you doing. I'm David deals cousin. I talked to the other day and he told me you started out to him. By the way no Dow was cool and I'm real quick real quick story before I go into. I got a couple of questions for if you put it in. His Dad was alive every Sunday. I Call Tom you know. And we'd talk in this order Alabama Auburn Ohio state. It was fun. We had a great guy. We go back and forth for hours but I really really miss that. Not being able to do that with him anymore. But unless you wanted to have for you I'M GONNA call four was You had the three coach. Which one do you think was the best one in the SEC? She C.. which hired you think was the best Utah Tween K. Lane Pittman and You Li- drink. Ah I think it's Lane Kiffin. Do you think that's the best one. Yeah your opinion there. 'cause I think all for good the truth but I think that might be the best to. That's kind of what I was. I was Kinda leaning that way myself. You have an enlightening Evan Lane. Kiffin Somebody who's now on his fifth head coaching job the other two PITMAN's never been a coordinator and drink. which is this is the second head? Coaching change drink which is a good choice young inexperienced but I thought he did a good job at his press conference and when he came here yesterday we still haven't had a chance to talk to pittman yet We would like. I don't know what Sir I don't want to deal with you know it'll be interesting and just see okay then one real quick thing. I gotTA throw the Buckeyes here. I mean I you know there are a little ever underdog to Clemson but do you think it's going to make a difference. That clemson hasn't played played. Anybody really that good yet this year. That great or where. I think he couldn't couldn't make a difference. I mean I got behind the game. they're not really battle-tested did this year and I think sometimes that really does matter. Hey thank you for the call. Billy is in Arkansas. Hi Pal aw I love your show. Thank is many times I can when I ain't working there because I know he knows more of the five of them than I do. But what I'm hearing over here by Alabama Fan but you know I listen to these aren't self I am they tailing the what I'm hearing is is that lane. Kiffin had the job With Arkansas then he turned around and went and interviewed dude at. Oh Ms. They offered him X. Amount of dollars then. He went back to Arkansas and told them. Hey I've got a AH gotta deal going here and tried to get more money out. Arkansas and the Arkansas had actually offered him more money to start with the other day Oh and he ended up signing with anything true to that what we know. Well what I know is that is not true. Lane Kiffin was interviewed by Arkansas on the Sunday before the Sunday after Thanksgiving and my indications are by hi to Tuesday and Wednesday. He told them he didn't want the job so he didn't go to Arkansas. I do not believe lane. KIFFIN wanted to go to Arkansas. Another again again. That's an opinion That's an opinion based on reasonably good and I agree with you as a L. Obama failure. A and I don't have anything. It's Arkansas but I mean I would think I would wanna go to old miss two right now. I'd rather go to Ole miss and Arkansas. Well first of Paul. Billy has a really good quarterback and I think that matters. Listen of a second of all lane. KIFFIN is not negotiating for lane. Kiffin Jimmy Sexton. Does that so anyone who wants to say that Lane Kiffin took them for a ride is ridiculous. I've heard that from some people I don't believe it based on my interactions with with the person that really matters here. And that's Lane Kiffin. Let's check in with Jason was in Mississippi. How are you today Paul? I'm well thank you Jason. Are you getting tired of the. ACC Big ten aggravating. The heck out of us. He's he's not at all. Oh okay awesome. Hey look there's wanted to say about that. Sec Championship game. And all the highlights. That are being shown. I don't understand Dan. Why not one time? Did they show that nine second. Drop back to Joe. Barrel for the forty fifth touchdown. I didn't realize it hadn't shown it. I haven't seen it one time and you need the highlights. I mean just to talk about the old line right. That has taken care of Joe Borough all season. Another thing I've heard a lot of beat down on Jake crum but I mean if you look I five passes they all should have been caught and I mean you work with some receivers over there. I mean some quarterback. If I'm not mistaken you can ask them. After the throw passes it should be caught at some point. You kind of lose confidence. Don't you think Jane Hi Jason. That's a fair point. Hey appreciate the call. We have to go to a break right more to come here on the program your phone calls. We'll continue. We are going to head to Arkansas in the next few minutes and find out what the reaction has been to Husam Pittman. Yes remember that name. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast we're back and we've had a lot of people all we had lane kiffin on Tuesday yesterday on Monday we had lane kiffin on yesterday. We had Drink which we have not had Sam Pippen on. We are hoping to get him as soon as he comes in from the cold or or otherwise known as the recruiting trail. But so we have a somebody just as interesting Josh to Cheney hosts the Number One sports Colin show and North West Arkansas. He is the voice of Arkansas and he joins us now. J. B. of great to have you on before we get into how pippen has been received. Can you tell us what transpired over the last couple of weeks with one hundred year. Check after dumping Chad Morris especially his process because from a distance same rather convoluted. Yeah absolutely great to be out with you all and happy holidays to you and and all your listeners and and yeah I think here we're just we're grateful full it's over. That's for sure. Search that that you just brought up for For San Payment that took you believe four weeks for Arkansas defined itself a head coach and he asked me what went on with your check by the scenes. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention to you. You know the last time we talked to a couple of weeks ago all signs were pointing elsewhere. And so You know did Arkansas. End Up getting the number one number two top five kind of candidate on the board. I I don't think they got the top guy or two but they certainly got somebody who wanted the job and truthfully this is a tough job right now as you well know in a job that is not in in high demand for big time coaches so they probably get their first or second choice but they definitely got the guy who wanted the job more than anybody else. Well that's great Who wouldn't want a four million dollar your job J. B. Tell me this Who did they target and what happened? I went over some figures of names. I think you're onto it As much as anybody Paul I. I think you know Arkansas was interested in a guy. Like Lane Kiffin. Oh I thought you know represented really well and your show talking about his interest in Mississippi and a chance at the SEC again. And there's still some talk around here right now. What exactly went on behind the scenes? I heard a caller on your show just a little while ago I think is privy to the same information. I am that Arkansas was people interested in Lane Kiffin and went pretty hard after them. And then as you said yourself a few minutes ago Paul Paul. I'm hearing the same thing that things didn't go much beyond that. Once we got into the middle of last week it was very evident. That Lien was not interested in Arkansas. And so so what does that mean that meant the hawks scrambling and what they did was they went out and got a couple of coach. Is some good raises Matt Campbell Iowa State Mike Leach a Washington state. Both guys interviewed with Arkansas. Both guys got more money to stay. Put and Arkansas ended up going after Sam Pittman. Who is you well now was already an offensive line coach here for three years under Bret Bielema so They they get San Pittman. We watch his news conference yesterday. JV I knew you were there. I really didn't know what to make. that Through the Lens of television. Tell us what it was like inside that room. It was interesting Paul and I've been to way more of these than that'd probably kid remember in the last few razorback football in fact I was thinking about that the other day five times now in the last decade. I've been there where you know. A head hog was introduced and they spoke about how well hopefully he'd be there forever. So I mean we've had this happen too often and they've been stuck in a Rut for all the reasons that you and I discussed before I thought that came in. and You you know truthfully. He looked like a guy who was grateful for the opportunity to be head coach. Finally I felt you saw genuine emotion and enthusiasm you. I saw some some tears of happiness that I thought were real and I thought that was a good moment. The folks in the room clearly on his side. He's got family throughout this area. He is is one of those guys folks in Arkansas from Oklahoma. Originally but folks in Arkansas would call Pittman a razor back through and through and if you look at what happened with them under Bret Bielema Guy. I tried to play. You know. Bully Ball Bigeye. Football at the line of scrimmage and then when San Pittman laughed and went to George Join Kirby smart you saw George just descended on the offensive line and Arkansas has been disaster. Ever since so pitman pointed to that. He pointed to his recruiting. He pointed to wanting the job. I thought he looked at a little bit tired. Like a guy had probably been in a world wind for the last day or two like. He admitted he was. But you know. Did he win the room. It's pretty hard not to on a day where folks are feeling more relief than anything clearly though and I'm sure we'll get into it here for for a second or two Paul a lot of questions around San pigments hiring right now. What are the biggest questions other than he has no experience as a coordinator or head coach? Well there you go. I mean you're five I'm for a reason you know what you're talking about. This guy has no experience as head coach in Power Division Division One power. Five football hasn't been head coach since Hutchinson Community College and Western campus. What's let's be real is a quality Juku kind of program but that was twenty five years ago? You know I've had folks this week our morning show that you were kind enough to bring up. Paul mentioned in how they think he was a great high school coach in the early nineteen nineties. It's almost you know we're talking thirty years ago. Let's get real here. He doesn't have that experience. So what happens in games when he's gotTa make decisions with everything on the line and he's learning on the fly and he's not learning on the fly for a program that has any kind of marching arching forever because as you know. Arkansas has gone seven and twenty nine in the last three years. So it's been a rough go at the inexperienced is a concern with him. I think you wonder about his ability to put a staff together. We're going to find out more and more by the day here what happens. In that regard. He hired Brad Davis and gave you've Arkansas fans at least a glimpse into what he's GonNa do on the offensive line by getting Missouri's O.. L. Coach to join them just yesterday but nothing else yet. We don't know the offensive coordinator. Peter is or the defensive coordinator and for a guy who has no experience. As you point out you're GONNA have to make homerun hires I'm at staff to lift himself up up and give himself the chance I Listen without having talked to him. Personally I don't know much about him. I don't want to prejudge from the press conference but J. B.. You've been Chad Morris's and fist. Because he won the press conference he obviously didn't win anything else Bielema. It was a real personality. We both know that poor. Trina was not much of a personality. But he's a great coach. I I'm not saying saying I'm troubled by I but just seem rather lethargic. That's a fair word. You know adverts some folks around here say he was fatigued Kinda came across like he was. He's a little bit in a daze and again I think he was. I think San Pittman Looks Pitman's gotTa come on your show Paul. I mean that's a spot he needs to be on. He needs to politic razorback football. And he's GonNa do that way better. Of course then a guy like even try to do here but I at the same concerns do I mean you and I are on the same page here and I think at the end of the day. If you'RE GONNA look at this in the right context you have to one hundred percent real and hog fans are GonNa kill me for saying this but it's the truth you have to be one hundred percent real about the fact that you are not a sexy job right now. You're a job that has destroyed careers and I was talking with our mutual friend Adele Daniels about this just the other day. There's almost no track record of coaches as you come to Arkansas. And use this as a springboard to better things in their careers so that kind of rumor of coach killer you that you hate to see is he's hanging out there right now. I don't truthfully no who else they could have gotten so you could question a higher. I think you're right to do it. Probably hold although second. I mean Mike. Leach's name came up. What happened to that? I don't know I mean seemed like had legion. He's been hired. That was a pretty dynamic higher compared the Sam Pittman. Don't you agree. I think we would have been exciting. I think lane Kiffin who I took I talked you know excitedly about on your show a couple of weeks ago. I think he would have been a good fit. I think hundred your check wanted a guy like that but at the end of the day look they just couldn't get them in. Arkansas is paying two coaches coach's not to coach here right now. I know Chad Morrison joined forces. Gus Malzahn at Auburn. That's not gonNA cover is four million a year buyout. So they're stuck between a rock in a hard place called. I wish I could paint it prettier than that. But that's where they're at right now and they just have to hope that Sam Pittman turns out to be. You know I keep hearing the next at Orange Ron. We'll see about that one josh. How did they get to Pittman? Because I mean listen if the two of us were in charge of the Arkansas coaching search. And we'll get tired. We turned down by Leisure Leach or or lane or norval who was nowhere near the job. I doubt we would have gone to Georgia to find the offensive line coach. What what led head hunter to their other than the fact that he worked at Arkansas which is only commonality? I can come up with a great question you know and I and I try. Try to think back to the Chad Morris. Iron Mike novell by all accounts really wanted the job a couple of years ago and of course he hadn't had that incredible back to back seasons. He's just added Memphis but whatever happened there. They rubbed each other the wrong way he was not interested. Like you said this time around and with Florida state call. Why would you be so he wasn't there? The Gus Malzahn thing thing is just been star costs. It's never happened. He wins just enough that the folks at Auburn you know. Put up with him and he puts up with making seven million a year. I would too. So that hasn't happened happened. Even though you would think it makes sense you know you brought up leach. I brought up Campbell's extension. He didn't want the job. I don't know wants a job right now. San Pittman as family family here. He enjoyed his time here. He appreciates North West Arkansas. You know it's a nice place to live. I think they did the best they code given they were stuck between a rock and hard place place. But but you know you don't need me to tell you to do your show. I think you're asking great questions right now about hunter. You're checking his search that I unfortunately cannot answer for you. Firsthand okay Let's forget all these questions and let's try to weed out the fans who would be supportive of of anyone for that matter. It doesn't matter whether it's Sampit Moore son of Sam. What has been the reaction on your show the last two mornings? We got a good audience in the mornings. The people are constructive so far I think in their dialogue. There's a couple of different political camps. You know you're going to get the rabid diehards the The Twenty Five thirty thousand folks. We're still going to the games at the end of the year. And they're all telling you it's the greatest higher since sliced bread which frankly for the reasons you laid out doesn't even make sense to me right now down the road. You know who knows what happens but right now. I don't see how you can feel so confident that statement demand passionate and so ready for this thing to just move on they're gonNA get destroyed. Royden recruiting Paul. Pittman said that at the press conference you brought up. They have no chance of putting together. A high level recruiting class. Let alone the USA one right now. So I think folks are. They're just hoping he can pull them rabbits out of a hat. Get through it. Take their losses this year. And then hopefully hire some good coordinators. That's what we're all waiting for right now. Can you hire a big time offensive coordinator to give an identity to your offense. Can You bring in anybody better than John Shavers. Who ended up the two lanes that I wanNA disaster astor? He was here for two years. Talk Paul that Barry owed him in. San Pittman are really good friends. And I don't know if that's a move buried 'em wants to make but what an upgrade that would be if they could get him on defense. I think folks are trying to be optimistic and then guys like me are skeptical because guys like me and you Paul what we're paid to do and He's GonNa have to show me he that he can make some magic happened but hey it's better for me if he does right so I'm opening us. Thank you Josh. Great to have you on hope. You'll hopefully you'll be back in good good good good deal. We will talk to you next week. I hope always appreciate your honesty. Paul thank you sir. And by the way I do remember Pippen's I think saying that. He he initiated the contact had his press conference a couple of days ago. Anyway maybe did one honey. You're chicken call us and tell us how he came up with Sam Pittman. We're back with more listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back back and we are taking your phone calls at eight five five four to seven to eight five. Let's go to Kyle next in Mississippi. Kyle thank you good afternoon high. Our argued false. I'm well thanks a lot. Yeah Hey I was just calling You know I'm in between both our pound guy if Lsu this year they have done remarkable things but you know everybody keeps talking about how Nick Sabin is either getting old or age you know he might be on his downfall. I mean what other program the United States would not want. Nick Sabin as head coach. You know I mean the guys outside odd national titles to Alabama. He's had this is might as sexy ear where he's not. Let me. Let me play devil's advocate. We're here for a second and I listen. I'm I've been on the nick. Sabin greatest coach of all time trained for a long time. But when you're when when you're talking about present and future the past is important but it doesn't always factor in as the over- overbearing or overwhelming In most important things so when you look at Nick Sabin you can't really get hung up on what he's done. All you can do is think about what what what can you do. So now And I know that sounds very Capitalistic but that's the bottom line so a at sixty eight nick. Saban isn't going anywhere. Other than Alabama he might consider considering. NFL Job one day he but but more than likely he's either going to coach it Alabama for X.. Number of years where he's GonNa walk away and do something else right and I agree three. And that's and that's then and you're absolutely right but the point I was trying to make was that you know people just seem to be there kinda down the guy. The guys don't great things for you're not just Alabama's everywhere. He's been a great recruiter and I really don't think that people I remember I I think people need to look at that. Got Still Recruiting. I I mean Alabama right now is currently ranked number one and number two in recruiting That's pretty amazing. They haven't really been outside the top the two or three in eleven years so I don't know if anybody watched I watched about half of it last night I'm going to finish it Later in the week the the Sabin Belichick. Hbo Special that we had the producer on yesterday. I mean it's really interesting to watch those two guys converse unfiltered if anyone saw it. I'd be anxious to get your reaction. Oh let's continue. James is in in Baton Rouge James Doing Paul doing thank you this is the first time. Call them a couple of things. I'm talking to a friend of mine. He's a lives in Birmingham Alabama. Grover Charles Barkley but anyway. He's a recovering Alabama fan and not talk to him after the Lsu Alabama game and he was like he wanted to Lsu to beat him more than five points that he did because he said these Alabama fans are. So you know you just don't know how how how crew they are. Put it like that. Anyway my thing is is like over the years. Alabama's had a nice run going and who's to say is not into now. I'm I'm not saying that but when with me I was in a championship. It's not about the team isn't if your team couldn't make could make it to the championship. See Alabama Obama Auburn or Florida wherever. I'm pulling for them because it's about the conference. I'm not necessarily pulling for them because I'm a fan of theirs but I am a fan of the SEC. So that's what I wanted to say about that. How you feel about that? Well I'm glad to hear from. I hate to run. We are going to. We'll talk about that in a few minutes. Number of guess so we'll be dropping by including that rule. We've already had J. beyond from Fayetteville Vince Thompson. A little bit later on Chris Low on a couple of days with lane kiffin. More of your phone calls when we come back.

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23:43 min | 8 months ago

Power Shift

"X Rays Cat Scans. MRI ultrasound. Some of the biggest breakthroughs in medicine have been technologies that. Let Dr See things things. They couldn't before now. CVS health gives doctors the ability to see what medicine will cost their patients before they prescribe it helping them choose lower cost alternatives. Managing health costs another visionary idea from CVs health health is everything savings vary not all patients eligible. Pardon the interruption. I'm Mike Robot Tonia Ma'am Walk. Olivia Newton John's black leather jacket. From the movie grease for two hundred forty three thousand dollars thinking back. I'm Tony Kornheiser was way too tight on me. I know you've got a lot of money. Drink that much money for the jackets lifted. Lift his Asia. And you're GONNA wear it the rest of your life Just couldn't you know. I want sport about five years ago. I bought a pair of jeans. I remember that a bought team. They were like like three hundred dollars. They're so good. I don't wear too good for me in my closet and I don't wear what still where you at is on a lot of money we're GONNA. PTI boys and girls in today's episode. Lamar Jackson plans to play the buffs and Lakers Attaran tearing up in lane. KIFFIN has his sights set index e kit but we begin today with the third gigantic free agent signing this week Anthony Coming Ren dawn has left the nationals for the angels and two hundred forty five million dollars over the next seven years a need thirty five million dollars a year Ren Dome will join join Mike Trout to give the angels. Maybe the best one two punch in baseball and he will leave a gaping hole at third base for the nets will. What does this do for the angels? And where does it leave the world champion champion first of all my condolences. You're holding up. Well I didn't know tears now streaming. I'm going anything that you've been pretty good. I'm so you can with this. I would not be so good with this because the nationals look I I know they did this last year. They lost Bryce Harper. They would better one did not gonna be better without no. I'm saying Rice Harper Arthur when the outfield was Adam Eaton INVICTA rollerblades and one guy they were they were plus. That's right the nationals. In that plus one and then go big Mike and he was so beyond the seventh inning seventh-inning n beyond particularly in September and October. Oh my God Mike. In his contract year he he had his best season. It was the most clutch guy out there. And you're not gonNA just replaced. No no harm no no no. As a matter of fact they now have one fulltime infielder trade ternary short. They got nothin' at third a minor league got nothing and they got part time guys at first and second the difference difference for Nats Fans. Is this the mystery. And don't obviously the difference is Bryce Harper one hundred miles up the road in division. Yeah Anthony Randolph. Went across the country and left the league. So this feels like Kawai Leonard. It's not anger. It's not anger. Let's go to the angels who now Anthony Rendell and my trout and suddenly finally finally because I mean a whole you know they got Shohei Ohtani told me back to. I'm not sold hold on Otani as other people but my point is when you have trout and Rin Dome you mentioned one two punch. You now have helped trout. You make that line of look a a little bit more fermentable. There's a there's a there's a minor leager common that they love very just ought to be better but they still got to address the pitching ninety five point four. Era last landed here. Okay this starters. DFL In baseball in innings pitched five six four for the starters era worse than the American. That's that's why they wanted Garrett Cole they've got to have starting pitching or they don't make money. The Washington nationals chilled team with starting pitching. Sure Sir Corbin Straws and by the way if you think you had a good week or somebody else had a good week Scott. Boris signed clients to eight hundred. Sixty one million dollars our good for him. That's it is one more yours. Tommy without that puts without Aaron. Don't I don't care how great was you wouldn't have one this pastor nats our world a win that's our hurt but they can get Josh Donaldson they can get your boy Kris Bryant. Get somebody if you're one of them but you gotta give up something to get. That's Brian but they got it right. I Want I want near your leftovers. We'll count down to the Mark Jackson. Time Tony yes the policies to the jets. That's who are reportedly going to be on the field to most of us have limited to zero interest in the other elements of this game. If it wasn't for Lamar Jackson I'd go straight to the two hour season finale temptation island. I'm begging you come with me Tom. You on board with my contention Jackson by himself is a big enough star to watch against the sorry team. Your jets bad game Lamar Jackson is the only reason to watch. I don't know if he can bring Sam darnold no. I don't know if better stop. It's getting better. It's getting better just saying so. We're leftover sometimes in the pot for three days. It doesn't mean you want to call this. The these are not draws the jets are not a draw. The New York giants were drawn New York. The gesture not draw the Baltimore Ravens. Ribbons are not a draw they're basically faceless team built on defense. TV audience for an early game this year. And you know why because he opponent was a forty niners or the patriots retreats they depend on their opponents. The reason to sit down to watch. This game is Lamar Jackson. Now I'm GONNA be honest among go back and forth with the President's Cup because this game is compelling to me go back and forth with Celtic sixers. That's what you ought to be going again for people who didn't island I'm GONNA go back. Forthwith the President's Cup the President's Cup is fine when you watch later on the rebroadcast on the golf channel. It's just fine. Watched them live sports sportsman up. That is actually live. That's live in Australia. I Love Golf variously not in America. It's usually you're you're planning Erica. That's just wants a show. Your account talking about Kuwa- let's rate great the Milwaukee every week for more than five the Milwaukee Bucks without Jonah Son. Combo beat the Pelicans last night to move to twenty twenty two and three. They've now won. Sixteen Games in a row. The Lakers beat the magic last night. To also move to twenty two and three and the Lakers have now won twelve straight on the road. What am I missed the first time in twenty five years the two NBA teams of twenty two and three? So that means. Cleveland never did that win. Golden State at the same right. Who have have you been more impressed with so far did it was? I got one of the right. It was a kimes rock. Yeah did you know who the other team was. Got That one wrong but I had a kimes rocky battle. I didn't know that I have. I've lost track that I've lost track. Tony I sat down and try to do this with producer restored near Matthew Kelleher. We went through every win every loss. And I've tried to separate them because at first I thought. Oh it's gotta be the Lakers and then you go through the schedule now. Because they've played most of these teams at home against teams under under five hundred. You go to Milwaukee and I thought they maybe had a more impressive win or to the are eight and one against the West. But I can't I can't separate them and I know we're playing tiebreaker. 'cause they're tied. Do you have one that you just say well. Look I have been sucked down. The Vortex of Lebron James is Arc of career He didn't make the playoffs last year. This is a revenge. Just it is so because of the Star Power of Lebron James my first inclination that is to say that the Lakers are more impressive but they added Anthony Davis. So there's supposed to be a lot better milwaukee not only didn't head anybody law your most awesome Brian in the words of Matt Kelleher. Georgetown Grad. This is Reggie and the miracles from a long time ago. They got one guy and they are that great so in fact to me it's more yes. More impressive is Milwaukee Mitch. Next week. They're gonNA play no Lakers at Fox. Tony but Lebron Ozzie and VP. Right now yeah okay. Yeah he's the most amorous. He's the most glamorous player the reason he's the MVP is because of the hardship ship of last year. Well look at this year. He's also raised. The level of Anthony. Davis does already raised. And why is he doing this because he missed the if he wins a title at the age he will be a major Michael Jordan's last title. Ix He'll be win Jordan especially that three different teams but what you know what he'd have his own wing Brian James and by the way to compel you better. Who WanNA WANNA do next week when you realize that? The Games in Australia the goths live live live. Sports Live Sports. Like just wait. I got the rest of the year to nail unions. uh-huh Tony I know you would just burning for lane kiffin new absolutely well. How about this? The athletic is reporting that Kiffin a few days into his get. Get Ole miss is trying to locate or poach everybody who ever worked a day for Nick Sabin to hire him and intact teaming up to take a shot at the king. That's not miss. That's right if you remember. Saving used Kiffin as a public whipping boy and banish them between the national semifinal and championship games three years ago. Now Oh kiffin wants revenge on. Sabin Duncan this work. Can this sometimes successful dope actually take down Nick Sabin. I mean there's some sort of quest by Lane Kiffin I duNno I dunno lane Kiffin. I don't know if that's a big deal. But I'll tell you this lane kiffin worked at Alabama worked for Nick. Sabin saw the assistance at Alabama. And he understands that these assistants are all good because Alabama is the criminal creme in College College football half of the people were for Nick Sabin or coach head coaches in the real sea at the moment including leg given so that is a strategy that to me takes all the sense in the world. I don't know if the strategy makes any sense we've seen people go out and try to amass other people's assistance and actually usually doesn't doesn't work at least not in pro football but I liked. This is petty. It's mean everything lane. Kiffin seems petty and mean but but I love the he wants to get back in if you might as well be the James Brown on the big payback when the irs use James's own wife to dive him out and he produced the greatest song of his career. The big payback. This is the big payback for lane. kiffin except I don't think it's going to happen because I think you save a win another championship high would say rub his head. Yeah Sam gone now. I will say this that that. Take your shot at Auburn. First before you talk about. Mississippi's there's something like that. Texas am beat saving and Lsu beat beat saving and Mississippi with you freeze cheated. This can be done. That's like once you. I'm talking about the big dam down means need you gotTa beat Vanderbilt. Beat you with a couple of games when a couple of days before you notice. Well let's take a break. We'll homes injured. Hand affects them against against the broncos. We're going to have Steve Young off after about the Patriots fans who wing their own team. What they can't do that harden they haven't given them already just as a reminder kids That's live golf tonight. Cow Stralia option is brought brought to you by Mercedes Benz the best or nothing. 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What is the greatest effect of a hand injury? People have to understand that. No no almost I I mean what sixty pass a four forty passes in a game and thirty five of them are off. You know you have to do things that are not just totally balanced unst and so the pressure on the hand is the last piece of trying to get something on the ball. Would you not perfectly ready to throw the football. And so that's the that's the thing it's like. Oh I hit feels pretty good on Thursday Thursday and you toss it. Oh yeah all sudden on on the Game Day you gotTa Rip it falling back or sideways and Austin as wow it is not ready to play. So that's what happens. A Lotta Times and so so to me. The hand doesn't truly tested. And you can't shoot the hand up. All will deaden the thumb. WE'RE GONNA move up quarterback for a second can even know. Tony hates that. New England fans booed the Patriots Sunday. Steve this is unthinkable to me when home fans Bouba particularly basically the Patriots is always discouraging. Although I can't I don't remember you ever. Getting booed is San Francisco ever or a agent from it a little bit. It's a little bit contextual. Like playing well they kind of get grumbly. I mean it's like hey we're supposed to be great you know and you're I'm great. I'm great is a fan and we're supposed to be great great great but why are you a great today and some of the Times I really want to say look just just come down combined center let me just give you one snap. Just give you a sense of lie. You know when I'm great and you're like it's Zillow. Different Okay just And how many times I want to take the mic for through Intercom for the whole stadium. Excuse me throw was perfect. Defensive celente tipped it. I'd never thrown a better. I mean like you wanted to tell people the true story but of course you have to eat it all so it's tough when they grumble grumble grumble for a reason. So it's usually because you're up playing well but New England when you guys were on top. I know they're so used to dominating and they're panicking. It's you've got to say look. They're doing because they're panicked because just like oh my gosh. Tom's almost done this bill. Stay is this thing hol coming to an end to the panic in the streets right now and that's why they're bullying because our panicked. You hear right I mean sometimes they tell you they don't here but you hear it right. Everyone it's like those. I don't read the paper. The sports section in the locker room is the most I mean nowadays. I'm sure the digital but it's like it was the most worn out piece of paper in the history of man time the data here in fact you have to try to just not hear everything because because you can't help it all right we'll shift to the NFL. I we think this is a big story. They have publicly conceded that they are going to review officiating at the ended the year from the top down. Do you have any particular suggestions as to what they should do. Look I think the reason why the league has just skyrocketed marketed. In the last twenty years is because they finally made a partnership between players and owners and that partnership has built borne so much fruit and people could say. Oh Oh I don't like the split of the revenues. I want to go fight over this or that but they truly brought players in partnership and I think that the previous generations did a lot to build on that and they should be. You should be grateful for that. Officiating is the only thing it's not a true partner. There's still a hired gun and I feel like if we're going to over Review all the things that officiating. Let's bring him in his partners truly full-time let them beep officiator officials. The whole season have have the haven't off season training. Let's let's bring them up there on the field with US players on the Phil. What's up everybody being a partnership short of that? I think you know just having people were schoolteachers. There's an insurance salesman and like it doesn't think about. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Let's let's bring in fishy officials and be true partners. We'd like to do anything to make. I bet you're right about that. There's an expression over the weekend. I think it was coming from Troy Aikman. WHO said he thinks about the challenge of running a team James sometime down the road? Does that make sense to you. Do you have a similar sentiment and say you know what I like to give this a shot. Yeah Yeah Yeah I think if I wasn't raising kids and new felt like I had enough time. I think it'd be something I'd really like to do. But you know it takes takes all of you and I've seen what John Elway has done. I see now with John. Lynch is done. I think that I have a sense and I think a lot of players have a sense. Tim McDonald guys. That junk. Brent Jones guys that I knew like when we draft we bring in a draft class that we've seen them in what margin the first minicamp and all of us would look around like that guy's terrible. I took five minutes so so it's like we. I think we believe we know we're talking about when it comes to players and putting locker rooms together and putting players are going to get along and be efficient. Went and picking coaches. I think we all think we know what we're doing. And a couple of days of shown some success and so that leads us all to say. Yeah maybe we really do what we're talking have have you. Have you ever gone for an interview. Anybody ever asked you in I would I can I can. I can hardly do what I'm doing now. I just really I've just I told Oh myself I'm going to be completely focused on raising children and I really love that and I just You know I'm not retired. I'd have a lot to do but I think that It's just a you know it's like coaching you can't get into in the NFL. Coaching or anything else. Unless you're willing to put in one hundred hours a week it just has to be and that's why I think Eli. Manning would be a great it coach but I don't think he'll do it because it's just the time commence amazing thank you. Steve is always shave. Okay guys let's take a break still to come the eagles chances of winning the NFC. Just got off. I will tiger motivate team. USA to get back into the President's cup tonight down four one four one at the moment their down home delivery is big but it CBS health. We not only ship prescriptions to thousands of homeless daily. We also hand-delivered deliver drugs to people with cancer. 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Incredible different topic trails to referee. Louis Garrison Garrison was knocked. Oughta the Michigan Illinois Game Last Night When Illinois Center Kofi Cockburn punched him in the head while celebrating and one basket. Obviously this was not intentional. We think but garrison had the lead the game which Illinois one. Sometimes you don't realize how powerful these players are. Then you see something like this and you almost want to rule against personal the celebration fluke. He didn't have a helmet in his hand. Either when he came down on his head by the way the big ten basketball very good this very good big. Finish here we go. Let's deal eagles. Jeffrey on season ending. I are with a list. Franken's read that's a big loss who say the Eagles are done. Except they've got the redskins this week's yeah keep going. The Patriots signed trick. Shot Kicker Josh cable to their practice squad. Think you'll get in the game you're going to sign. Josh Gable. Signed Dan Gable. Get the excuse. 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Hour 2: 4/10/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:02 min | 4 months ago

Hour 2: 4/10/20

"The cried passion than pageantry of college. Football Leaves Keer these Paul Finebaum. Show our to podcast. Second Hour has arrived and we look forward to chatting with Lane Kiffin here and a couple of what? What a what an amazing conversation I was with our Fisher Marino and I say that with a lack of objectivity but but I really believe it. I mean he's a close friend of mine. I've known him a long time but I just hear it in his voice. The poignancy of of his eastern Good Friday message is a moving as anything. I believe I heard here in a very long time. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. You can give us a ring. We have a little time here before we change. Gears don is up next. How are you done? Hey I'm doing good. Glad to hear we We'RE HUNKERED DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA. Trying to keep our space between each other and I have Been thinking about The commentary with the Archbishop and going back to the nineteen sixties. There was a time when churches where separated their the Protestants. And there. The Catholics and I went to a retreat. That was in Kentucky where Thomas Merton lived and I overcame all my animosity toward. I'm Baptist preacher all my animosity toward Catholics and subsequently I really love the fact that somebody of Paul Stature in background and the Archbishop are calling for us to put aside hetty the illogical and ritual grievances especially on this day which is a day of hope and promise for everybody and I just like a lake that comment. I think it's an extraordinary comment. And none of us need to be reminded about the division over churches and religions in the history of the world. But on a day like this. I think you can put a message and by the way people asking me why do you? Why do you have a Catholic priest on? I've had a Franklin Graham wants to call in and say he's available. I would be happy to talk to him. I it doesn't matter to me. It makes no difference to me who the Who the WHO. The WHO. The minister is just happened. The no Archbishop Merino he is someone who listens to this program and we've known each other long time and he he he. He was really to someone that we used to have on around Christmas. And now he's come on. You know far more important manner but I am. I have no. I'VE HAD TJ TD. Jakes on this program. Before that other ministers and I would I would love to have different Different people on well Paul Back in the sixties there was something called Vatican Council to which was a Roman Catholic event and it changed the attitude of many of us. Because and I'm sure the Archbishop has clear memories of this. It brought us together. There was a time. No I'm I'm I'm a legitimate Baptist minister. There was a time. When I co officiated at Communion Eucharist as Catholic say and it was something that brought us together like nothing had happened before because we were divided with Religion in those days and I appreciate very much your having him on and he. He reminds me of Pope John. The twenty third who said we need to open ourselves up to others and he did and he did to me and it changed my life. I'm so pleased to hear that Dr Don thank you you call again. Larne is in Kentucky. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hi Paul. What's when I call to apologize to you and Chris from the University of Texas? I I believe that was his name and all your listeners. For my horribly. Ill timed comment about the age of the NFL. Yesterday under ordinary circumstances that would have been an appropriate Discussion but not in this time and I'm am totally ashamed of myself. I Lauren. Let me stop you. A this is a talk show and I've always Had a basic philosophy that We say what we say. And then we We hit the RESET BUTTON. And the next day we start over again He didn't offend in. I'm sure Mr Dale Leconte was not offended. Either well I. I do want to apologize whether I need to or not. And I also want to say that I love College football and all of us who've listened to you do and I think I watch your show. I have stopped listening to sports. Call in shows most of them years ago. And but I've been listening to yours for a couple of years and Your your want. You're probably the kindest most generous sports talk show host in the world and I appreciate you and I appreciate and I am. I may not meet be sorry but I am and and I I just. I just needed say that. Not Thank you for letting me say Lauren. Ub Well and you have a wonderful weekend. Thank you and great to have you on a Christian per pretty appropriate name for this. Good Friday. Hello Christian ethics Friday Paul. How you doing today? We're doing well. Thanks a lot. Yeah thanks for taking my call appreciate it. We'll say you've had some pretty interesting Guess the this week with all head coaches and everything really enjoyed hearing from Jimbo Fisher Coach they hire You know of course the two that stick out or Lane Kiffin and Mike Leach and it's pretty hard for me I think to You know to to kind of pick who I live a little bit most GonNa have great success and obviously it'll be interesting to see you know. Of course the Mississippi recruiting battle there. Yeah thanks for the call Christian wherever a little bit of difficulty hearing you a dwell in Lane Kiffin. We'll we'll be leached stubs. His toe pretty badly last week. Not Maybe not And maybe the reaction was was a little more dramatic than anyone meant but he. He is off to a rather awkward start. A Roger is in New Orleans either. Paul long-time Roger. Thank you great to have you back. Hey I'm the lines beep. I've got all the time on my hands. I want. I remember many many years ago and I retrieved to myself to homedow- Obama right. I walk out on the street and woke up at the station from where you were broadcasting and you said something to me got closed heartfelt and sincere and. I'll never forget it you said Roger then Katrina. I've been thinking about you and I knew it was not just a broadcast or it was from the heart and I was so glad to hear the Bishop And because obviously believe Yanna more people that are God like them Protestant and I would also say that Since November all of lsu friends have been extra nice to be down never rubbed the previous eighth meetings rubbed in the dirt. Being nice to me and I said don't worry the better team won. One of the better team wins. The other isn't it was wonderful to Jim earlier today. And I'm also thinking of something from the other side. When I went to the University of Alabama I happen to know one of the greatest people I've ever known in my life and he gave me something of wisdom that I'll never forget a very famous Rabbi Beach Sundberg. He was one of the thick officiating. Rabbi's at the wedding of auto at Mrs Frank. The parents of an Brian. Oh Wow and he Retired and he was like an assistant rabbi at the big underdogs in Tuscaloosa and So I went to a VM. By being to come to the Bar Mitzvah of his oldest grandson and he's giving worst reciting the wisdom and he he something that I don't know if it's your main to today but I do so hope it is. He said he'd quoted problem from the and you know what stranger was walking along the way from Jerusalem to Baghdad and he saw a wise man that the end east is the wise man. Excuse me did you give me directions. I am offs and the Wise Man. That well where are you coming from? I'm coming from your was a love. Well where are you going? I'm going to Baghdad. If you know where you started out and you know where you're going you could never ever be truly lost. I listened all the time. Paul but I work for a living. Still even now Quite a few years older than you so I don't really have time to call up and do the white thing but I also want to really thank you for continuing to pitch. He's in here. And and and get a connection to all of us and ninety percent of the people listening right now. Probably don't know how far I go back. You know even of Shane Gold. And that Kinda stuff and it. It really means a lot a send you a text of About a week ago but I know you're darned busy and if I don't know if my words of hope or consolation general part than anything but it means a lot to be a lot of your other twenty or fifteen year plus listeners. Have you still? Have you been there? God bless you not. Give me that Jack Thank you. I'm sorry I missed your your note but I look forward to many more conversations and you be well. We will take a break. We'll transition from Archbishop Merino to Lane Kiffin. Now you listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back appreciate you being here on this Friday afternoon. Also great to welcome coach Lane Kiffin to our program. The head coach at Ole Miss Coach. Show first of all. Thanks for being here. I know this is a strange time for everyone but comforting to hear you. Thanks Paul appreciate it so I I know. Some of these questions are pretty pretty predictable but I think we're all interested. Just how how you are dealing with the same thing everyone else is dealing with. I'm assuming similarly but you're also a new coat you're also a first year coach at a school where time with players and staff I would think would be at a premium. Yeah it is Obviously the number one thing is people's health and In the country back back on track But when you talk about the football side of it. Yeah that that part You know it's been tough and I think that you know just looking at as a first year program I your staff you know there's definite disadvantage there you know if you're had been there three years or whatever you know like you ended up in a you know those players already know your systems. You know them very well So you know I think programs in the first year definitely a disadvantage On the field and then also in recruiting because can't get on the road and recruit or have our kids on campus so since all this happened for weeks ago. How how are you and your staff dealing with it? I'm just trying to make the best of it Doing as much as we can we now for the last. I think about a week or so. Now I've been able to do this as a lot of stupid meetings With our players on zoom and they got position meetings We've started Different speakers that we know Johnson You know some other. Some other guys. John Gordon going next week To get on with our players on a consume and you know kind of helped motivate them and talk talking to through things we had Dr Kevin Alcohol. You know from there as well last week and I I would think coach coach Ifan that that's an important part of this because we're all going through various things and I would think young players while they may not be affected As much as some who were in the workplace Suddenly finding themselves unemployed. But they're still young and this is the time of their lives and they should be on the practice field and with their with their friends. And they're not yeah. It's very unusual for them. And you know the thing that talking. I'm just trying to talk them through things and trying to work with them as you know their their whole days planned you know as a as a as a student athlete in College You know they're they're morning workouts. Time class is You know practice Everything is playing study hall and so now they've got to do a lot of this on their own and so having self discipline in these times that you don't really have a schedule and you know it's easy just to sleep in and not do a whole lot so You know just trying to motivate them on so long room. This could be a great thing for them. Because it's making them have to get used to the real world which is happened to motivate yourself and then have to have self discipline and schedule yourself daily coaches in terms of the endured and none of us know. But what what what will happen. Let's let's say we we we get a return to some normalcy here in two to four weeks. I'm sure you have a plan. How do you deal with it? And and and how? How much time do you think you'll get back with your team before they? Before the summer hits well we have no idea no one. Does you know whether it's a couple of weeks or or this can be another couple of months and so You know there's been a lot of different things discussed of had to handle. How much time do you need when you get back you know and then pushing the season back and you know my point You know was you know as much as we could. We'd want to avoid that because if you push season back you've got all kinds of problems used are playing into January February. That's the next semesters already started. So what about mid-year transfers? What about seniors have already graduated? Do they have to do they start taking classes again? You know so they can play for a couple of seasons could potentially the kids leave you know onset next semester starts as Grad ranters and go play for another team in the last months of the season so I think trying to avoid that would be huge and even if we lose you know practice time in summer camp and everything you know if it's all the same for everybody it's all the same you know if you know if it allows us to stay on schedule at the season. I think that'd be the best in the best interest of everyone in terms of of the season which you mentioned There are a million models out there when you when you talk to And I'm sure you talk to coaches. You talked to administrators and you talk to your team. How do you think it would work? I if if it started late or would you or for the Heaven Forbid Fans were not allowed. I mean do you have any thoughts on on those issues not a whole lot? You know because we kinda worry about what we drone and so obviously we have no control over that so I don't have a whole whole lot of thoughts on that I kind of listen to stuff on TV and when people talk about well how much America needs sports and so even if you didn't have fans that there is a way to still play which I don't even know how that's possible eater. We've made it through this and it's safe for people to be around or it's not you know and obviously we shouldn't do anything until it's completely safe so but you know people said you know even if you could do that at least it gives you know. America things to watch and stuff. But I don't know how that's possible if it's safe to be around people or it's not so I don't know how when you say you can start paying playing football games and that's safe but not safe fan so I think I think that's a waste of time. Yeah I would agree with you on that because it just doesn't it's still you're still WANNA locker room. It's a everyone knows how small those spaces are so. I don't know how you could get on a locker room and get on a bus. Pay Your hundred players on each side. I mean yeah I you know so. It's not even possible so I just think it's one of those in these times. People want you know. Fill time ideas that really sit back and think about it. How how can you do that? Coaches have to deal with a lot of zone coverage so complete man to man. You may have just come up with a way to get past that. I have to ask you because I mean there are a lot of crazy ideas out there. And you're certainly a little more reverend than your your normal button-down stayed coach but Do you find yourself just trying to shut it off after a while during during this uncertain time. Yeah I I like I said I don't worry about. We can't control so I don't struggle sitting there all day thinking about what if this. What if that because especially in this situation? I mean our president United States doesn't know what you know what's going to happen. How do we know you know what so one month ago today was not going to be a big deal? He said so you know. There's obviously uncertainty in terms of the certainty As difficult as it may be your coach. there's nothing quite as disciplined as as football organization Do you have to fight? It sometimes coach Kiffin. Because without knowing when you're going to be together again you still have to finish the spring. You still have to do what you have to do. We try to as much as we can. You know we basically get set up virtual recruiting where you know. We're not allowed to go on the road. Obviously but our coaches basically you know. Call the coaches in their areas. You know each day as they would if they were spring recruiting and communicate with the kids and A lot of zoom things with our staff with our players We divided our team up into about ten teams so each coach has about ten guys. That aren't as position guys. They get to know. Do guys interact with new players that they communicate and Try to try to maximize time and and as as we a move through this. What what do you find more challenging dealing with a lack of being on the field or trying to figure out Goshi recruiting without without physically seeing the recruit. I just think it's a struggle for the first year You know the unknown not in the you WanNa know your roster you know. We haven't had ing practices at all with our kids so we haven't seen him in our systems at all in so it really like to know for recruiting. What what are you missing? You know for possible Grad transfers and transfers and things in. Just WanNa have a good feel for your team you can try to create. How what style are we gonNA play the best position to win based off of our personnel? And really don't know very much is I mean you've answered it in some ways but how do you recover that when other programs have been up and running for many many years? You've been part of some of those programs do you. Do you think it takes long. You think it will take longer to season but I mean how much of a disadvantage you do. You think you'll be assuming we get to the first weekend in September. Whatever she has reached out to each of us had coaches. Actually my call today and you know just what thoughts and ideas that the conference call here the next week or so everyone and you know. I just said it was. It was possible you know when we do get back. There's no time to still give us Spring Ball. You know in June July whenever that is where we we have some practices. 'cause you know we are. We are buying the programs that are returning other coaches and players and and have been there so you know that would be that would be a big loss if we never had any practices at all. you know and all of a sudden camp started is that ultimately an NC double a decision That's a good question I would think. That probably is into decision You know in campuses about when they're let people back on those things So I would that would probably have to be NCW. I would think coach. Thank you know these. These are not easy answers. I'm and I sometimes I ask. Ask questions to people that like you nuts. Come on because I think all of us who are football fans WANNA know but I also realize it's very difficult to come up with an answer when nobody else knows you've said yeah it is what it is and so you know like we've talked about this just trying to maximize situation that we're in You know and so you know for you. Know as bad as it is For most of us there's a lot of a lot worse things that could be going on so People Are Losing. Love loved ones daily so You know the fact that we don't have football practice. It can't work with our players and you may have some gains push. Back really isn't big. Deal in the big picture. Things well said Coach thank you very much Always always cool to talk to you. And hopefully the next time he'll be about to hit the field and some of this release will be behind us. I hope I certainly hope so. I know you do as well. Paul appreciate it have a great weekend. Thank you coach. Thank you very much lane. Kiffin some very sobering thoughts about the upcoming season. Howard puts everyone and we appreciate him very much for coming on. We'll take a break more of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We'll line you up right now as we have plenty of time the rest of the way you were listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Okay we welcome you back Really had a good time there with coach. Kiffin appreciate his honesty. And I know it's been a busy show with archbishop and taking calls but if you WANNA get in This is your moment. We've reopened Complete Bank of phones lines here at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. So let's get right back to the calls and check out Roy who was in Kentucky he right. Hey how you doing Paul. We are doing great. I'm glad to do. Enjoy your show. I really really do big grades. They by they closed up all my only concern or question that I might have is what happens. This colleges don't open up for regular students will still be. We'll still be a football season. I think that is really a a fantastic question and I think college athletics would would walk down a very dangerous slippery slope if they think it's okay to play football and safe enough to play football but not safe enough to let go let students on campus. I don't believe that would happen. But that's just an opinion and I don't pay the just talk about it. Why why I? Somehow we lost you there. I don't know how we will see you back. Buck wild is up next. But it's a very good question can you? Can you have football without students? It's pretty pretty interesting question Buck go right ahead good afternoon call. How are you doing? I'm well thank you very good. Did you have a good Passover? I yes It's been a great week. Oh good good I just It's stuns me that we're living in a brand new world when Lane. Kiffin sounds more rational and reserved than Davos weenie. A one hundred percent right and I thought I thought Kiffin was very sobering there and serious and even have fun with it but Daboh just can't help himself. And I I'm not going to repeat all the things I said last year Because they were pretty well distributed. But you are one hundred percent correct. I think lanes on his way I really do. I think that He's matured and I think he's GonNa do good. I really do I know He. I liked him as an offensive coordinator. I know he had some mouth problems but it sounds like he's come a long way us. Then I think I think Alabama suffered when when There's no question in my mind or in the minds of a lot of people in leaving before the National Championship game cost-saving a national title. Tom Is in New York. Tom You are next up. Go right ahead. Hey Paul how are you? I hope I hope you are. Yeah no we're good. We're hunkered down. You know kind of feel like living groundhog day. Every day you know but It's okay we'll get through this I had a question. What do you think is the drop dead date? If you had to stay there would be football. There wouldn't be football in the European. Yeah I think you could start a couple of weeks late but at some point. I don't think you can go you. You just can't have a season you can't. You can't start the season in November right. I I think you could. You could maybe get October first but I don't think I think we're a- I'm just watching the same things you're watching. Okay Tom. I know anything but I think there's a reasonably good chance we're going to get the season started. I think the concern continues to be on the back end. Well the question would would you? If if that's the case I I'm opening fingers crossed that we will get it going. You think the Playing without fans in the stands is a legitimate option. I don't think so and less We are told They maybe maybe we'll start out with with half stadiums full but you just can't you can't have empty stadiums And I think I think this is going to be a line in the sand that you hear over and over again and I think coach Kiffin alluded to it. If it's why would it be safe for football players to get on a bus and getting a locker room now again? One Line one answer could be they. They're all tested win. It's not safe. To let people congregate in the stands I agree being a schoolteacher and and being in high school every day. I can't see it like and I don't think we'll be going back till September my question. Utah is Let me do you think we're going to get to a point when I don't know what part of New York you're in but we're we're UC widespread testing before students can get into a high school to be honest. I with the sheer numbers. And especially the way testing's been going in New York. I really don't see that as an option right now unless the federal government comes up with a billion tests that I you know. We haven't seen that so I really don't. I know there's a lot. There's a lot of work being done on that. But it's still it's still an extraordinary undertaking. I agree considering where we are right now versus where we would have to be in four or five months. I agree hundred percent. What do you hear from realize they're more pressing problems in New York right now but I'm sure you still talk to administrators and educators Well my my two. I teach school coach at another but my both athletic directors feel like. It's winging prayer that we'll get back to school this year and especially the spring sports probably won't happen obviously because You know the the Without school the kids won't be there and it's just it won't happen so it doesn't seem well especially with Connecticut. Kansas school may twentieth now and we kind of have a drop dead date of May first with athletics. Said if if they'll let us go back they could make a a modified season. But I just don't see it all because like you said with the testing. I don't see how everybody's GonNa come into. School has now listen. You'd be well. Please stay in touch Tom yet. Becky gray conversation. There was somebody who was right in the middle of appreciate lane. Kiffin joining us We will have a few more gasp but a lot of time for calls and we will come back to that after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast welcome back to the program and appreciate coach. Kiffin joining us. We had Archbishop Merino early on. We will continue with more of phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Paul is up next. Pau All long longtime listener. First Time caller. I'm calling from Canton Georgia. both places. John Hannah. I'm a lifelong Alabama Fan Originally from Adams Zil Alabama went to West Birmingham Christian school with all that said I heard A couple of weeks earlier. I don't follow now and don't have access to computer and I heard some things Nick Sabin Some of the Apple computer software that he was using to to track. Employees are not employees. Excuse me Athletes during practice and then that was considered on all. Yeah here. Here's the deal. Let me let me try. Let me try to explain it. You four weeks ago today. Alabama was supposed to have its first practice and a about fifteen minutes beforehand. They learned that they were shutting the school down so what saving Sabin staff did was A. They went out and bought Apple Apple Watches for every one of the players and there is a device on the apple. Watch that can help you. Keep up with workouts. So if you're running if you're exercising her fabulous I mean not the only one but there are other fitness watches but So that's how the trainers at Alabama are keeping up with the with their team and saving. Didn't we mentioned it a couple of times on the show but saving admitted it Others have accused Alabama of bending the rules on that and I don't know where the final disposition of that is. I don't think much will come of it. But that's that's really what we know. There's a prominent I'll say his name but he's 'cause I respect very much a prominent sports writer here in Atlanta. That was really down on him and and and from there. I just got kinda worried about the situation. I mean not that. That's the most important thing going on right now. I mean there's a lot more things I mean. I've heard I've heard coaches flat out. Call it cheating but I don't think anything will come of it. If you want my opinion which I guess you did. Pat is up next in Georgia. Hey Pat thanks Paul. I just wanted to call and tell you thanks. You've done good today. You really did. I appreciate it and Remarkable what a remarkable interview with lane kissing. I've changed my mind. I think Oh. Mrs Hit the Jackpot with him. What do you think I do too? I I heard a that was a very sobering. Mature Lane. Kiffin you heard today and I think it's the one that is the real lane kiffin. Now I think he's he still likes to be a cut up now and then but I thought he. He handled the gravity of the moment. Quite well Yes he did and I was particularly interested in it because while waiting for you to come on. Today I had the privilege of listening to the book of Manning again and it brought tears to my eyes. It really did especially knowing now what we didn't know them now. It's a remarkable story. Thank you very much and then you have a blessed weekend. Thank you pat. Thank you for calling in in in any anyone who didn't hear coach Kiffin. He did really hit. Hit all the right notes. These conversations are difficult because you're asking a football coach about things that he will not be involved with in terms of determining the outcome What about playing? What about this? These are these are administrative position. choices ultimately the. It's not going to be the president of the commissioners the decisions on and Commissioner. Thank you said it. Best that ultimately the the science is going to determine the the the outcome of whether in when there's football anyway we are running into a break here. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five back with more after this. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. Home is where he built a giant pillow in your living room and when people ask why you have a pillow fort in your living room. You say it's for your dog. And when they ask what kind you say chocolate lab and we've a web of lies that's almost as intricate as the crown molding in Fort Pillow. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the pillow. Soft fortress you call home call Gyco and see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance.

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Hour 1: 12/9/2019

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Hour 1: 12/9/2019

"Hello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia with a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr Pepper attaches. Where every day is Saturday in? Everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change because the only season this college football football season get a taste of fans bill. This fall during a college football game near you. Dr Pepper. The official drink a fans Ville grab some today. You cried passionate patron tree of college. Football leaves here on the Paul Finebaum show our everyone podcast. That is correct and welcome to another week and what an interesting weekend it was. Thanks for being a part of our program. I and we are here for the next couple of hours. Do we have a lot to talk about. Let's get right to it. Why waste another minute listening to me? bloviating Berle hurts. Lead an intriguing offensive heavy question. I guess by now you've probably heard the news that Jalen hurts taken on Jonesboro that game in Atlanta in the semifinal in the playoffs playoffs are off. And running. No more quibbling no more equivocating. We have arrived at the moment that we have talked about six long months. Speaking of arriving chariots couldn't have done any Better than what happened last night in earlier today in in Oxford Mississippi. He's back Lane Lane train heading over to fraternity fraternity row big ovation lane kiffin back in the SEC. At home this the kissing babies very comfortable doing that doesn't it. It's not the only coach Mizzou working on a deal to introduce ally drink quits. Know that name you will. Hi Young coaches in the country used to work for gene chicken. Gus Malzahn. It offered me well. Did you have San. Am Pittman on your bucket. List to be the next Arkansas coach. I'm looking for Chauhan's the man a lot going on The pitman conversation will Certainly be one topic of conversation. They started With Lane Kiffin even the minority Nobel and work their way through a number of other names ended up with the Georgia offensive line coach known as a great law offensive line coach. Used to be at Arkansas under Bret Bielema and maybe some people at Arkansas trying to regain the glory days at least for the first half of the Bielema era word season started and Joe Borough. He's a hazy. AP offensive player that comes as a maybe no surprise. Nor is it a surprise that there'd Brown defensive player of the year sting Lee newcomer and I think even a fifth grader could have guessed there is. You're on was going to be the coach of the year. What's on the FINEBAUM? Show today Lane Kiffin. He returns turns us on about six weeks ago. That went over. Well Andy Staples will kick it off Rayner Sabin no kidding no connection to nick. We'll talk about. He covers Jim. Harbaugh and Gene Chizik knows a little bit about the coaching Carousel. He will be with us as well and then is a great to be back in studio. We had spectacular Time in Atlanta. Then we went up to Connecticut. Now we're here and we're got another trip virtue before the end of the week but We are going to be here more than we're not over the next couple of weeks so It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. It's also beginning lot like the bowl season but for now let's get to the phones at eight five five four to seven to eight five and start with old friend in Kentucky Ron Ron always. He's a pleasure to hear from you and my man. Thank you Powell in just wanted to say that I thought your program last Friday. Oh why they've been the most innovative sports program that I've ever watched in your tenure on television at least to mix Wrestling in Huron one program. Have it turned out that good. It was just amazing to me and recommend question is do conceived Steve. Do that on the program not me so listen I give all the credit to the people in the other room headed by Marquee. CBS and Dan Abrahams They program the show. I offer some cal so we had a little bit of help on on Jeff foxworthy through a mutual a friend of ours who That process started about six or eight weeks ago and it worked out very well and rick. flair was a relationship that we have made aid. And I'm going to let you know what I'm GonNa let Marquee Biak answer this Because he was in Atlanta and and Mark I think don't go anywhere on but AH sometimes What we do here every day can be our best entree to what we end up with on a program like this so mark? Why don't you explain a a little bit more about the back store how we ended up with both of those guys well? This is a guy right here. I mean he relationship chip with Ric flair. Him and his family have become friends of the show this year. And they're great so accommodating and you know he kind of sits there and while you were there he was scheduled for two segments and hey I want to stay for another great Nouri. So he came out and Jeff foxworthy comes in and Pasu Jeff. Foxworthy walks up. He walks up to me. I introduced myself. He goes man. I watch you guys. Every day he goes I love. I love this show. He was going on and on and on how much he loves the show. We love you so feel free to call in any time but it was just. It was great you know they brought that energy brought justice. Different feeling edgy. Show on Friday. The shadows continuing Paul. You Shadow Mark Shoutout. We all shoutout Keith. McConnell hope MONICO. who was a staffer of ours? Who helped us establish that relationship with ric flair's wife and then his son and then met him so it's it's really a team effort around here and You know what did you think though I mean given to be up there be the one talking to those guys and how does that run. I I will tell you what My my my wife said something to me when I got home yesterday about about the show on on Friday. And she said I've ever seen that giddy talking to a guest and I. I wish Mesmerized by Foxworthy he was so funny so authentic and I think sometimes Those those things just a confluence of events and I know some people were Were wondering why are you doing this. But we don't have an opportunity to be live very often where we can sit down and develop conversations like that so I'm glad you recognize that but it really was a an entire effort here from so many different people that never get their names mentioned. Well the other thing that really intrigued me is. Here's how emotional His name escapes me. RIC flair yeah. Yeah you know what Right I talked to him a couple of times on the phone and I sensed A. He's an interesting point in his life and for those who don't know his story I mean we're talking about one of the most famous athletes in the history of the of the being. I mean I. I don't think there is a ever been a wrestler in his category and he nearly died a couple of months ago and I think he's very emotional about it. I didn't I wasn't trying to. This is not a reality show. I just wanted them to talk about what what was important to him. But I knew his wife standing in front of me He wanted to say something about her and when he did He had been and I think a coma for thirty twenty days. It just overwhelmed. Him and I am not a genius by any stretch run but I know one something when you when you have a great guest or any kind of guests. That's telling his story to get out of the way and that's right well. It was a marvelous program complements to those who perceive. Thank you very much. Yeah I listen I. I'm proud of everything we do here. But you know some days are more challenging. Alan Djing than others But I walked out of the I told Mark when we walked out of the The arena on on Friday. Night at You know that's proud of of a proud of his shows I've ever been and You know you just don't have any idea how many people are are are playing small roles behind the scenes but thank you again for mentioning that. Mike is in Macon Georgia and Mike. You're on the air good afternoon. Thank you follow. I had just two quick things the Actually I was GonNa talk about the second one was last Friday. Show second but I think I need to jump in with Echo. What Ron said and I know how much you admire? People like Stephen a Smith and Mike Greenberg you know for how hard they work and how well prepared they are. But I don't know of anybody who could have been better prepared to navigate all those different gifts that you had last Friday. I mean you had on legendary coaches coach's legendary se players commissioner. You know one of the greatest comics of all time and deadly the most famous wrestler and all time And the most memorable moment for me was when Foxworthy said that you never want DISAPP- point your audience and end preparation was the key to success. Well you know obviously you were well prepared and you just get your staff the credit you know for being prepared that way and I realized that but just the last thing on the last Friday show Jim Valvano. He said you know if you laugh you think and and you cry you know a great day will your show last Friday in four hours a day it was a full so anyway thank you for it. Well thank thank you. Thank you very much that means so much to all of us and again I you know the hardest part about the show. Mike sometimes is moving very quickly. But but I just tried to take in that moment Being around those guys and by the way it started people didn't realize I don't know if you realize that the first head coach Dooley Alien and Ray Perkins on right the relationship I had with Perkins might be the most tortured of my career He didn't speak to me for three years while he was the head. Coach at the University of Alabama But it was but that you know he he he said something to me afterwards He said you know what I was wrong. And I know that came a good twenty two years after he left Alabama. Excuse me thirty two years after he left Alabama. But it's still a lot to me well. It was nice and come around and you know people do come to terms so can can I talk about a game just to get. There was a game okay. It was a gay. Well Anyway. I called you last week and I told you I was real nervous about the game that I was. Oh you know fearing a tidal wave and then we talked about George having a punchers chance will. The title wave turned into the NAMI. The punchers Chaz has like Jerry Quarry Against Mamadali. I mean you know we were flooded. Were quartered and you know we play all the way around. So I just I want to say you know to the Lsu fans especially like Andrei and Harry in New Orleans that I'm happy for you guys I'm hurting but but I'll be pulling for you when you go be Clemson for the national title. So that was that was my thing. Thank you bye thing appreciate very high theron. We are up against a break GEICO. We've got a lot to do today so don't go anywhere four hours of Reaction and overreaction from all of you and I have a feeling we'll hear from some Georgia fancy today back after this listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Say the grand apples anyway. Welcome back The program let's continue with more of your calls and lottery action. Plenty overreaction on this afternoon. Let's check out Andrei in the AP L.. Hello Andrea Coconut. Let's let's not play around with lettuce. Come on out with I need to kick it to LSU and At Oklahoma I need to tickets. I can handle that. Whatever you need real toes It is hard to imagine that Georgia had just a field parking. They let mask who they're thinking. The question Andres Andrei would George. It'd be in the playoffs with Justin fields. I think we all know the answer. I don't know look like he's regressed as taken take it to step. He's he's gone back restores. Only tell you what Listen I'm not blaming Jake one way or the other. He doesn't have much around him to throw to. They're supposed to have the best of the best offensive line and clearly splits off. Yeah he he's back there department. Well everything that could go wrong did go wrong Some of it was self inflicted going back to the player her That left In the spring remember the one that the name of the wide receiver who bailed out Holloman Went to Florida. The I mean that was that was the beginning of the problems You know pickens doing what he did to his team mates in the first half At the end of the Georgia Tech Game WHO's listening okay? You Know Georgia has plenty. They have talent they recruit wail. They'RE GONNA have to change off as you know. Do you WanNa go with the rotary dial phone or do you WanNa go with the new iphone. Take your we go back to their real life now that step further. Forget the IPHONE. It looks like Georgia was using a bag. Phone on Saturday. Alabama changed Lord knows LSU chain Georgia's they have athletes. They the challenge. They're going to have to open up that office put after leaving space. Spread people out and there's all three yards cloud. It's not gonNa work when you got you behind fourteen now our suspended. Kirby's approach because I thought he knew what he was doing right now not defending him anymore. Thanks for taking my call. You got it under a great to have you on. Let's go to Tommy The in South Carolina. Hello Tommy You'd afternoon all great show a break show Friday. Thank you but I'm falling about the Georgia bulldogs and I'm basically. Don't say the same thing you'll previous caller just that it is ridiculous. We've had top recruiting classes the last three years and to be playing the where we're play William and I want to refer to clips and I know you don't like Clemson. But they keep assists got great assistance. Taboo to me is not activated coach great motivator. He's a great recruiter and I think curb the same way he needs to address his assistant coach. Just we definitely need an offensive coordinator to have the talent that we've got on offense and do no more than we did. This year is ridiculous. What the European well listen? I agree I have stood firm because I think you have to Until you get a good dose of what it's all about and he he was able able to bring his team back and the bottom fell out. Saturday He he caught wrong team at the wrong time and he didn't have any answers and he looked terrible. Listen you don't you. Don't get your your head bashed in on a stage like that and expect people to compliment you. And as one of the biggest Kirby smart defenders in the the world it was humiliating. augie is in New Orleans Off The you're on the air. All Hail Jila Leva Paul no doubt as Ric flair would say you got to beat the man to be the man you know it was refreshing to watch and SEC. Championship and See A team. I'm from the West. We create looking uniforms. Not Some Hackneyed nineteen thirties monochromatic outfits with numbers in the helmet. But last week you had chip towers on the show and he made a lot of comments comments about how torture was GonNa win the game defense. Yeah and how Lsu may be too relaxed and sloppy L. issued ever played into proceeds benefit. Understood you find any of those things to be a factor. I didn't find anything to be a factor other than Georgia was simply outmanned out clue. OUTCLASS outcoached outcoached. Well I've got to say we've been talking. I've been asking questions about the whole field and from Issue since October you've been steady on froms uh-huh side and I think Andre just answered the asks you the question but I gotta say I think I think feels would have made a difference. I'm not saying they would have beaten. Lsu Hugh but I think overall feels would have been. Well I will now make the statement Augie because yeah I've kind of been stuck in the mud with Kirby Smart Drowning in quicksand with Justin fields Georgia would have been in the playoffs. I think they probably would have been they. Would've they would've been South Carolina I don't really Lsu and they would have gotten the the fourth spot yeah let me ask you. Do you feel somewhat satisfied now. That Utah is is out of the college football. Playoff picture in Indiana Vogel versus Texas. I was watching that on on Friday night with a bunch of buddies of mine we were out in Atlanta and I I was just smiling. I I I try not to. I don't know Steven Naismith on the cowboys. When when one of my NEMESIS LOSE I? I've I was brought up to just let ago and I have said very little about Utah. I just wish them a lot of success. In the Alamo Bowl and all have to say is remember. The Alamo and you won't be participating in parades will not be going to Salt Lake City and I'm fairly disappointed. I hear it's really a nice place. It's a nice place I've been there and it's really nice. If people are really nice who do you think the SEC coaches would it be kiffin to when are drink with zoos. Going to make the Fastest impression quick. That is really turned the program around in their first first year. I think clearly kiffin will improve on four wins. I think drink which will be someone to keep your eye on. I mean I I have to say the Santan. Am tip higher is baffling settled. Well listen Years Margate when you when you start a coaching search with a number of names and nowhere did I. Did I see Sam. Pittman name on that list threes. I would have thought he would have been. I mean listen. Here's what you don't don't hire someone who has five years of of SEC head. Coaching experience and who's been yeah. Just go out and hire in offense and by the way I'm throwing this out to the audience because I don't WanNa type cash but when was the last time an offensive of line coach. Who had never been a coordinator proved to be a big success at a major SCC school? I enjoyed commercials. I can't can't remember it though I can't either And to you know leave a guy like hugh freeze hanging out there. I think that's crazy but I just just want to say to my friend. Todd Offensive Dixie beer and some potato chips that he can enjoy while he's watching the Tigers play or something and Alabama playing Michigan at the citrus bowl to Mike. In Macon he talked about Harry's happy about LSU winning remember Harry is a two lane fan he hates LSU yeah but congrats to the greenies the greenies or going bowling big time down there on for Red Street so Paul thanks a lot and Great Show you've really had a good show last last week. Really good to have you on more phone calls at eight five five four to seven to eight five mortar com including conversation with Andy Staples a number of other other guests as well. But Andy is Dick. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast welcome back to the program. We're glad you're here. More of your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Let's welcome in and Andy Staples so always fantastic person to bring onto this program to talk coaching and everything else. Andy it's been way too long Thank thank you for joining us and we were just deciphering the three SEC coaches there are more than that but but let let's start with the most obvious lane train returning returning to the SEC. I know I know. It's a sports writers delight but explain those out in the hinterlands. Why this is so exciting straight? I mean and this is the perfect guy for that job and laying is just GONNA be laying you know he can try to buy that They can say well. I've changed weren't but he he just has these impulses to say and do all these things. That are very interesting to us and I asked him about it last year. I said what do you think people are so much more interested in you than than anybody else because I do the story when I still worked for associated on him and and the whole premise of the story is we take him to the story. Because we knew you read it because it's about lane anything about lane cells and he's like I have no idea why people are so fascinated with the reason is because he'll save say some of the things that other coaches won't say and I think he'll do that at all mess there were there. Were this period. USC He didn't do a lot of that because he didn't feel like you had to sell that program that hard to get good recruits that they were already aware of it but when he does your Tennessee he was very out there and you know whatever he needed to do to get the attention for program he was GONNA DO I. I guarantee you're going to do that all of us. And the fact that that he really let's be honest that job open because they guy pretended to be on the field legged dog. That is the most college football thing that ever happened. And listen as a sports writer writer for guess Let's let's quickly go over the other two coaches here A drink what's going from upstate. After one year to Missouri replacing Barry Odem who was very solid and and very boring but saw the solid Missouri seem to go together. Don't they do. Here's what I think happened with Missouri Korea. I think think that too good of a job. I think people feel like Missouri should be a place where you can do. Gary thankful that every year. And it's yeah Gary Pagel the two things you remember most about Missouri were bad things that happen to their team. Bad luck stuff. Down the Lakers. And when he gets there and suddenly you know they're winning division in the big twelve the winning the SEC east and fans and administration got used to that success that and have forgotten. How hard is it really is to win this or you know drink quits? They'll take over and the expectation will be okay. You gotta it'd be better than than the six thousand six seven five that that we were getting from Barry Odem but that's not that easy and especially with Georgia being really good in the East Florida. Being good has come back. I think. Mark stoops integrate. Coaching job at Kentucky. This your those winds are not easy to come by The good news for play Arkansas. Here yeah well okay let me let me Let me stop you right at right now in Arkansas. But that's the that's the higher that even reasonable fans are going. Please explain and and you can't say he's a good offensive line coach. And he's a good recruiter. We know that And he's lost Kirby it'd be smart. But why is he. Good for Arkansas Sam Pitman. I mean he's good recruiter and and that's what they need right now. They they weren't with. They weren't a ton of people clamoring for that job. There were a group of fine head coaches. You turn it down and you know it's it's hard it's in a position where where whoever gets it. It's going to be sensitive and but it does get a need for years too old and I don't know if they're willing to give it so Arkansas so flush with money and they got you know these high expectations. I don't know that they're gonNA be patient. They need to be with this person. I think it's here some people off off Yeah I'm a big fan of the old line coach as a head coach. I think there should be more of those. And there's some doing pretty well right now. Mario Cristobal the ball. Just want to pack twelve at Oregon Matt Campbell's doing a good job at Iowa state so it's sort of like having the drivers you'll eat cigarette so that's your stanford instill pollens to garrison for today. But I I'm fine with that anything with finding a guy who's greater and greater profits. Did you guys off the line. You're going to have a higher floor than anything else. And so you're GONNA be okay and Arkansas right now. needs to climb back up to okay so they hired the guy that can get into. Okay now we'll see in terms of what he hires for staff if they can take advantage skills talent but I do believe that in a few years. He'll have that line where it needs to be. And he'll have the defense is going to be because he he knows what he's looking for there to. It'll it'll be up to him to take that next step. Maybe maybe the most important part of this is not at Arkansas. Because they they still are out in the wilderness somewhere. But what does it mean to Kirby smart and Georgia coming out at the end of one of the most embarrassing weekends with his career. I wrote this after the game. I I think I think they need to seriously look at what else you did this year and say we can do that. There's no reason we can't change the the DNA of our offense and create something that makes us that good because nor jazz the same level of talent that Lsu has if you look at j. from numbers and these these are the works numbers of screw. It was better for fears for his numbers. This year were almost identical to Joe Boroughs numbers last year. There's there's no reason you can't change the DNA of your offense and turned Jay from it. Maybe not into what job this year because physically there are a little different he. He's not as good of a runner as you'll borough but you can make that offense much better they have. The talent here is is not not a Kirby Kirby I asked him about it Saturday night and he made it sound like okay really. Good receivers guys aren't getting open. Guys are dropping balls. LSU guys last year they had this year. What changed the offense change so I think they need to look at you know stampede? The one guy you think okay. You can't lose him. We've lost him so now now it's sort of wide open. Go find who you think can be your job rating and let it go and try to change philosophies and Kirby said well. I'm just trying to win. I'm trying to play man baller. But the fact of the no matter is his style over the first four years of his tenure. Georgia has been keeping score down. Try to control it with the deepest to control the clock and that's great but it doesn't win championships anymore. I look look at how much you have to score to win a national championship game the last five years. It's a lot of points so so you know you. You've just gotTa Change Philosophies and they've gotta find their coach down. I saw my mom would have been interesting because when rotten and a modern fence but he's doing South Carolina now so that the name I would suggest that they're out there getting all that the office of coordinator to lane. Who was the I told you? West Georgia he sort of went the detour route. And he's a he runs explosive on offense but he loves to run the ball. They run by sixty take time. This is something I Kirby would like. It would fit your talent and this is a guy who knows how to recruit that area I I just I think somebody like that. Bring him in. Get a fresh perspective. I think you could invigorate that offense. I think you can check from comes back. You can have him on like he was frustrated. Talk Warriors still talking to any staples any It's it's over for Jason Garrett in Dallas but we don't know or is who will take place. I mean. The names have been centering around Lincoln Riley but other names come up from Urban Meyer to Dan Mullen Mullen. What do you think? Yeah the the Lincoln Riley things obvious but it's funny because Lincoln Riley as the guy down the street for him talk that pass and telling him don't do it don't do it. Don't do it very Switzer Norman Oklahoma telling Lincoln Riley every day. You doc do this urban Meyer. I think would would probably be interested. I you know I still not sure he signed up for the Stresses Asas coaching again. Given what happened last year. But you don't maybe he wants that challenged and also it's a little bit different kind of stress if you don't have to recruit groups so maybe that's interesting. The lowest thing is interesting too. I heard about this a couple of weeks ago and I thought about it but then you think about it. It makes perfect sense doc. College coach I coach. It does really really well so and and my thing is let's say they call them on. I am confident that never leave for another college job. I think he'd be happy at Florida and win the floor for a long time. Dallas cowboys call. Don't you at least have think about it. Yeah I do think you do. And and it's funny. We we we always talk about Lincoln Riley and Baker Mayfield but this is the first time I've heard anyone connect the dots. Dak Prescott is funny. We just didn't think about it that way you don't think of. I guess I wasn't thinking thinking of Dan. Mullen has approach but the fact of the matter is. He's a good coach you know. He's an ex notice game day coach. Who's got to Florida Dan? I'm all I'm of course. Listen I trouble with the fans on your show. I have so many pieces for for saying we're going to go waiting for this year. So you gotta be careful what I say but you know what the Kentucky game was was. They were really lucky to win that game. And and then for the former quarterback contrast the former quarterback who I wish I'll only the best Nearly blew the Miami game. You Know I. It's okay I am willing to admit I was wrong. They were they. Were very very good. This your but I am going to be a little more careful with predictions next year. Because I think it's GonNa cost me a lot this year. Okay final question. How great is the Harbaugh Sabin? Citrus bowl it is fantastic. Sadly I think we all envisioned this the national championship game. When Jim Harbaugh got hired Michigan this this feels about right? And I'm curious to see what Alabama looks like in this game because one of the things that has been Alabama's issue for a lot of this year and we were focused on on. Everything's gone the offense but their defense so many injuries. They're playing so many young guys now. They've got a little break they can pose a little more I I would be shocked if we see them. Play a little bit better on defense and then they take a big leap on that side of the ball next year. Now obviously the the offense is probably GonNa have to take a little step back because when he moves that much receiving Allen and probably to. You're going to but I think we're due to see Alabama look a little more like what we were used to seeing them. Look like free to any thank you very much great debut on staples joining us from the athletic gets a break back with more listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast ask. No one's been part of more first days of work than car heart and in the same way rookies have to keep earning respect car. Heart never stops earning. Earning the respect of hardworking people like you from building rugged dear. That's tougher than any. I are worst day of work to reengineering the classics to out work. The Future Trust your car hearts to keep doing their job long after you begin doing yours since eighteen eighty nine car hurts. Got Your back. Twenty four seven visit car heart dot com forward slash. CFP waiting waiting for the answer on anyway. Welcome back to the program. Let's get to the calls at eight five five. Two four to seven to eight five and James is up next in my Ami. Hi Paul good afternoon. How're you doing that with humor? Man How are you. It's an honor to be in your show first time caller longtime listener. I'm sitting here next to my lovely wife. Audrey I'm a I'm a die. Hard gator fan and I have a question about the ranks. I think they've got that's a bowl games right all of them I think they got right. But the rankings they have Florida was ranked ninth before Saturday. They didn't move up one spot in any of the pulse. Holt not one. I don't understand that you know what I don't understand. Listen there's politics involved here but you know George ended up subsist so it got to sugar bowl bed is there. Is Very Georgia. Fan remotely excited about going to sugar bowl. Probably not I mean I. I was looking forward to Florida. I figured they'd be six right now because they don't give Georgia beat him. I mean I I heard yesterday and I I was in Connecticut yesterday the ESPN traveling. So I didn't really in today's been a little bit strange so i. I'm not exactly sure what happened on some of these bowl games but I think Florida would have been a little more excited to go to the sugar bowl but the I know the orange one of them pretty desperately I I I agree but I got it right because even Georgia law Saturday they have two losses. They'd be Florida and I still think they deserted ahead of them because they happen they won the division. I think Florida moved up to number sick. I agree I totally. Florida has not gotten much credit for losing to the number one team and for losing to the number five team. Same I agree and I I live in my I knew my wonderful audrey over gator fan. I guess we both watch your show. My Wife Watches your show. When I'm here we love it? I think your excellent and it's the first time caller longtime listener. Thank you my call. And it's been an honor to be James Best Audrey and thank you so much for for being loyal. It's really great. We're traveling as much as we have lately GET HIS SO interesting to be at airports and to run the people and I'm in I've been on the east coast. It was twice a week Being in Connecticut every Sunday in New York during the week into to see So many people Who come up to me Who just have fun with this show? That's what it's all about listening when the SEC network was formulated in two thousand thirteen and They hired us to be the first the people to be on. They were hoping to to do what. What what I what I run into bringing fans into this form and giving them a voice so we thank you for being a part of it and we are coming right back? I'm alone and bold radio announcer. Who was hired to tell you about the loud and bold flavors and Tyson anytime? 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We get on the elevator and all these. We're twenty something years old and they're fifty sixty years. Old Couples going down to elevate an her `mamma don't be too cramped at a year. Yeah it was amazing the whole weekend. We've got there early for the gang but every time we walk through the lobby it was just criticism just just abuse and I never get over. I'm seventy two years old now and I'll never forget that experience woody. Hayes was the coach or the crap out of them and and we go to the get up the next morning to check out. There was not a soul in sight. No no no. Typical of the Buckeyes. Yeah Yeah it is it. It was just stuck with me. This had to say it so I love you program fall. Thank you very much Timing Paul Jeff. Hey that guy's better check his mask. He'll be seventy two now. He wasn't as twenty the seventy eight. That's all right though. The buckeyes like to play travel. What did you say one of the Buckeye? Figured showed Odom trying to remember has has has The buckeyes ever beaten Alabama. Can't remember one I can't I can't remember. Oh wait a minute let me let let me think was up four or five years. That's true. Well I've never gotten over that one. So that's why I forgot. I mean what they call one run Z.. CAD had like anything do the heart of the South High. Just remember Alabama being up by ten. That's the last memory I have of that game exactly. Hey Hey I hate the garrison mature state but was this guy for talking about Rhino. Yeah Yeah I mean listen to the guy. I think he's dollars. powerball often seem any Chris. Balls offense with stunning. Ah and trying to you to you about Michigan. But even in the nineties and two thousand got kids. Because nobody's GonNa sow basically wait. What's on television? which was that what he said I think you heard correctly I remember in the seventies school watching Alabama in other schools on. ABC I mean skinner holding their home. Field no sure I mean I remember what Johnny come on. I mean. I don't know where this guy was getting. That in the two thousand was around two thousand. That was the day. SPN Started in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. Yeah I mean I mean what what is the point there. Can you let because maybe I just I think my only way I could explain. Jeff is I think he's lived in Ann Arbor too long I do too. I mean I think it's right now because they got in and like I mean who who would leave covering Alabama to cover Michigan. I don't I don't know that's a good question unless unless the F. Saving a question like the guy did the other day that they've been out of town baby Uh My savings standards. That was a fairly weak response but Yeah Yeah Hey thing is about Michigan state pull through. Nobody talks about personally. I think it's hurting more than anything in the last four to five years is Kentucky's recruiting putting in Ohio. Kentucky is getting the guys like Benny Snail and guys like that years ago. We're going up to Michigan State. We're getting all for bio state. And they were coming back and with a lot of spending a lot of talent. And that's the teams that Michigan that is really i. I should've mentioned that mark stoops. Every time we've talked to him over the last four or five years me he said it. We're going up there and we know we can't I mean he didn't say this but he insinuated we know. We can't beat Ohio state but we will get whatever's left an Ohio state since urban than there is perfect timing because urban brought him in national recruiting uprooting scope like we talked about before and Ohio states going after more national recruits. And that's leaving more players for Kentucky to grab and they're doing a hell of a job up with What's his name? Marrow Morrow. Harvey say. He's doing you know he's from youngstown. And he's killing it Ohio and now it's kind of I think for that second appear whatever you WANNA call it. It's a hot go to school instead of going to Michigan State and places like that. I think it's hurt Michigan. State and purdue more than one day the to Jeff and I I wonder if if the Nassar Scandal and all the things that have happened up there having just really had a deleterious effect I I I know I know Izzo was hanging in there and basketball. Even though the scandals always seem to veer close to him I mean they had a big year last year but but conflict all just seems like it has been a either that or or Dantonio has just simply been worn out to to crispin. Aspen is leaky and I tell you the total outside of that doesn't really know much about Michigan State. I think Izzo seems almost thrown out. I think he's barely hanging on the way I see it. I know they had a big year last year but I mean some of the things that he said lately or or just frankly embarrassing right. I don't think fickle Nichols should take it. I mean there might be more money but I think he hangs on ninety one or two more years and he could probably name US kick it. I don't know how how fickle and you know this better than I do but After his brief experience taking over for trestle his reputation wasn't that great and he's done a phenomenal. The job of rehabilitating it yes he really has I mean he obviously you know he's he's well connected you know. He's incredibly tight. They were big time a teammates with so he's he's very very connected with a lot of high profile people but I I don't know if maybe extra million dollars or so he can get it. Michigan State long-term by worth it. That's just five billion. Listen I mean something's going on otherwise you'd already have the job you have to look at. Okay we're we're what's out there because it it could be a mistake because I have a feeling without paying much attention to that program. That Dantonio has has run this thing off the cliff. No doubt no doubt about it but anyway yeah so I just wanted to bring it back in Turkey because I don't think enough about how. How impacted the the middle of the big ten in my opinion of affected but Anyway hopefully you get Sir can buy up to Michigan. He can be a little more exciting than now. You know how that goes against the highest state that free and our ball. Well I I have to tell you Jeff. I'm officially board with even talking about Harbaugh do I would fund making fun of no You you know you become irrelevant when perhaps your your two of your biggest critics the two of US can't even get it. It's just like it's so passe. Yeah compete anymore now. I'm officially retiring as As is Pete Pete Finebaum the water carrier there. You got him. That could pull megabytes. Great to hear from you always cool. Jared is in Philadelphia. Hello Hello Jared now are you Paul I am well thank you for the call. Hey I was I don't usually get to watch your show because I'm usually working this time. Some of the day sure but When I heard the I heard something about Pennsylvania and I I missed the call the caller from Pennsylvania and After third listen and it sounded like to me I was like he's gotta be from western Pennsylvania Pittsburgh area. I think those people are a little lost in the past. They they do have. They've had great quarterbacks right all of come from western Pennsylvania I'm from the east side I'm I'm about fifteen minutes South Philadelphia And I just WanNa say I love the people from the South I had the privilege of going to Lsu Alabama game two years years ago. I'm a huge LSU Fan. By the way go tigers. And I also went to the Texas A. and M. Game that went to seven overtimes Last madness that wasn't my is and I was two rows behind. LSU's bench. Thank you at my brother-in-law in San Antonio for that Christmas gift but my experience -perience with people from the South I love you. I love the accents. I cherish listen and I sat with a guy in Tuscaloosa. He was from mobile. Think he he was in his seventies. And we're on a rocking chair outside of the hotel which I thought was hysterical. and He came out in his Alabama Pajamas and and we just hit it off talked. I thought it was great I just wanted to say you know not all Pennsylvania are like the ones from out west. I got some good ones on the east and by the way we have very good sued here hoagies cheese steak. Listen I happen to like Philadelphia. I know affinity one way or the other for Pittsburgh but I was early in my career and nearly took a job in Philly. been through there a million times. I think it's a it's a great city it's big but it's it's not overwhelming and I'm I I. I fly through Philly a lot. That makes me an expert but I feel like I've been there almost every weekend this fall. And I'm why am I a Lsu Fan. I loved the Bo Ryan Story waypoint. That is an interesting less. Less miles was absolutely one of my favorites. Because he reminded me a lot of Bobby Knight which I love. Because that's my by style. So the vintage Bob Ignite was worth studying cherishing. Unfortunately Bob became like so many other people as they grew older. They became even more cantankerous tankers and more bitter and in extremely a difficult person to be around. But Hey thank you for the call. We appreciate it. We are heading to a break. We're not done yet We will continue to wait for your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five and you have a man Bama listening into the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. We're glad you're here. In Jordan is in North Carolina. You're on the Air Jordan. Thanks Pala Hope. You're doing well thank you. I am all right. Thank you Paula. Reasonable call it because it's being talked about Mike Leach here way and You know so he. He really class was twenty five. And that's pretty decent for Mississippi State and my question is this what what kind of savings is likely have. Let's let's let's give a speech fair. Let's say next two three years. I don't WanNa really put much emphasis on C.. And I don't think that's fair to anybody. Let's say the next two or three years wants to see on for him at Mississippi cheap state I think Mike Leach is capable of of a breakout year. one like we have seen in the past with Dan Mullen nine wins. Maybe something like that. I think he's a good enough coach to Depending on the schedule and I'm not proficient on their Three three year out schedule but within the SEC west you know it takes a little bit of luck. You've got to win. You got to win games at home and I hope to win those twitter's on the road. Yeah it takes a Lotta like I. I saw them recruiting class. And you know those rankings are what they are but they're that's fourth in their division which is crazy four in their twenty fifth and the Kreider before vision which is not Also saw Ole miss was ranked thirty ninth. Yeah Yeah I know you had a caller Do all day and say something about lane. KIFFIN press conference. He just didn't seem to be too happy. And I'm guessing because he got his butt the state when it comes to recruiting pretty crazy. Yeah you know. I listen to a Mississippi like some but he For Lane Kiffin. His of his appearance the other day was pretty down he his. He indicated that it was because he got in late and recruiting already over. How Mike Leach he got in there? significantly ahead of Mike Leach. Okay I'm trying to remember the date so lane gene Mike Lee got in. I mean even get in the in the calendar year. Two thousand listen in Nineteen maybe got in on that FRY. I think Mike got in there. in January didn't you guys I think I think Kiffin had him by three weeks three weeks checking but I'm pretty sure What was the date January ninth? That late Leach got in their late kiffin. I don't the wind kiffin got him but it was I think Kiffin beat him by close to a month. Wow Wow I mean Arkansas beat all coldness. It's as bad as Arkansas has been the past couple of years they are twenty. Nine's so yeah. I I think what's going to happen with those two schools forks. I know two the personalities. Obviously that Airbus enjoys in their own way by Leeches very quirky guy but also extremely intelligent and lane kiffin has been offense and my thought the biggest thing with him though honestly I thought he was supposed to be a great recruiter and all of a sudden the Jordan by the way. I think you always have to. You have to remember a couple of things. Kiffin did come in early. Really urban but I'm guessing I'll defer to other people that that Moore had who was also a good recruiter. Had done a pretty good job. Robin Leach was able to save that class. So I'm not sure it's apples to apples here. Okay that's fair. That's I think that's a very very fair statement. Yeah they're definitely probably two different planes and they started. That definitely makes sense for sure. All right Paul. Appreciate your take on health continues. Thank you very much saying that. I feel great. I I really do appreciate all the well wishes except for one person the other day Kiffin is a good recruiter but in his defense. I don't think you can. You can judge him on on this very short window. Hey thanks for the call Paul. Oh is in Ohio. Hello Paul Paul Paul I just WanNa say. Thank you for. Good me through my college years. When I was Ole Miss I do appreciate that? Thank you very much. Yeah used to come home from class and Papillon and helped me on the day but hey do you WanNa talk about Ole miss recruiting and then can't leave it to sippy state fan to constantly talk about Ole Miss. 'cause that's what they love to do but anyway I wanna ask you a question. Can we just hired that new dirt recruiting use at their head. Any anything to do with how poorly I wouldn't say poorly. But a recruiting the result over the past two or three days. I don't know Hannah characterize APP because I just think you're always up against the wall when you come in late and well late. I mean it doesn't matter when you get hired you get hired in December and your two weeks away from national signing day when ninety percent of the of the players are going to sign. You really don't have much of a chance right. I mean I totally totally agree and I think what he said earlier hit hit the the nail right there with the hammer you know kind of set the stage for Leach and I. I don't think grapplers did really any justice for kiffin coming in and so I say give it a year and I think we'll see all the differences you even even though you had some rumors about moorhead ahead Nobody Thought Matt Luke was a long-term higher right right but then you know. He started to be a long-term higher. And I think that's we're fans started to panic and I think that's where recruiting to suffer because I think high school kids kind of they started to look at that and they didn't really see a future there so I mean I really did you like the lane. Kiffin turnaround I think. It'll be like I said I think we'll listen in one more thing Paul In I I can say this about Kiffin and what about Mike Leach They both are great developers with talent especially Leach. I mean he's won a lot of games with players that nobody nobody really wanted now. Kiffin ted better talent especially when he was at Tennessee. SCI in Alabama the number one recruiting class in the country southern cal that help l. from get fired when he didn't deliver mark is up next marching on the Air April. Hey they're good afternoon. Hey Man love the show thank you. Hey Hey you've been talking a lot this week about Academics in college athletics. Yes and I teach at the University of Alabama and I was fortunate enough About a year and a half ago to have jalen hurts in in my class of senior level class and communications. And and I'll just tell you The kid was a superior student I mean I don't give grades away and And he operated aided right at the top of the of the class and it'll tell you one quick story I We had a guest speaker. Come in and finishes presentation and the class files out and I look around. Jalen has hung back. He was the only kid hitting the class that approached that guest speaker thanked him for the presentation and shook his hand. And you know just so consistent in with everything else we've seen The way he handled himself. I'll just tell you the kid was really fascinating and by the way I ah you understand this because you teach But that means A great deal when you have a guest in your class and everyone walks out and doesn't say anything I've been that guy before and it is a terrible feeling. I spoke up a number of years ago up at Ah I think it was a it was in Massachusetts to to school and I mean it was a disaster. I'll just admit it and And I just it was. It was very well known professor to Would one person please say something to me. I just telling me it was terrible but just don't walk out ignore me So that is really cool. I knew I knew I knew jalen fairly well when he was at Alabama and he was always great So I'm I'm interested in in in What type of communication do you teach? this this was a class at the senior level. Class call. It's the title of the classes leadership leadership in public relations so interesting it's situational public relations But a lot of critical thinking self awareness. Is that those those leadership models Is is the class. It's not an easy class. It's a senior level class and Anyway I the the kid is so genuine and I just had a live example of being able to observe him over the course of the class and everything that we've seen on TV and can read in the media He's he's the real deal is situational public relations more geared toward Companies or public support. Eh Yeah more issue's yeah. Yeah so how would you know if it was your turn. How would you make the decision on how to respond to this crisis? Would you wish statement or would you sit tight or how would you make the decision. How would you think through? It's IT'S A it's a that's that's that's basically what's the current I'm really interested with the current news cycle. I don't know I think there was a a you know you teach but I mean there was a longtime crisis management and became a very important thing in our country and you saw a lot of the former politicians going into crisis management but but today The new cycle When you think about what's happened in the last ten days in this country I it's astonishing but you all but but I also know how important that is in managing Whatever you're in or whether it's public public life Public Work Corporations. or or even what you do. Yeah you know that really good observation. And in addition to sort of just the new cycle and the way that's accelerated rated I mean the political world now the leadership behaviors that this class in particular has the chance to go around and talk talk about you know it's just whether what side of the aisle you're on. There's there there is a lot to learn and I love. I love the class. No that didn't really that that is really i. I was when I was in high school. Inspired to go into journalism by Watergate which a lot of people were of my generation. But I I would think Watching this play out and It is it is affecting so many people though. Yeah you know can't can't get away from it really any should get away from it. I mean there's just it's just it's just too important cannot to not have that be part of a class like like this one well Mark Thank you for calling a lot more about this sometime. Okay Paul thanks thanks for taking a great to have you on Very interesting And he's right. I mean there is a fatigue level of but It's it's I'm absorb shore bite as well because it's you know we haven't really been down this road in very often in history we will take a break. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast blue. We welcome you back really glad. Have you on the program and Joe is up next in Illinois as we begin to wind things down. Hey Jill goodness bomb. Thanks for taking. You can call thank you all right to have you on okay. Well thank you a little nervous. My first time caller. I just recently began watching the show. So thank you there. Where they the the thrown out a log onto Pennsylvania fire here? I was born calling from Illinois as I was born and raised in Western. PA and Write a AH place called Newcastle. What's right on the border? Right by beaver falls where I'm sure go name. It was born in where he played. Okay and I was on. I was is on the watch the show yesterday and I WANNA be clear. Something up for me the gentleman who called from Pennsylvania. I don't agree with His the how he went about. aww But This wondering you said something that was kind of wondering about afterwards Sir and If you can just cleared up You said something that First of all I want to say I wished to And everyone the best all right. I wish him all the best and it'll be goes on to enjoy a off brady like career career and but anyways He said something about He. He doesn't need degree because he's GonNa play football. Something of that nature frappes. I heard or did you. Do you recall you heard you heard me correctly. And and I think he's on track to get a degree but my point was and I know that he's a good student but to talk about low is going to make Hide tens of hundreds of millions of dollars whether he gets a degree or not I I I would not be able to. You may not be able to certainly will no not me my case we'll play these are I'm just wondering you know football much better than I do. Bill and I'm sure you agree. dotty successful college created a necessarily translate into a successful pro career. Although he shows a significant amount of promise I will say. What's your Mama's Alabama's I wish everyone you and everyone the best all right? But in the event that a pro career in the unlucky that appropriate pan out I would I think that him having a degree would be a significant fall back plan You know I know how much degree has helped me in my in my as an average person and so that's why just take a human in the event that he does go on a you know succeed succeed in the professional ranks. Well offer this show and I would never give the impression I think Education Asian is unimportant. It's incredibly important and I certainly respect. Which what you've done I would also have to add? I'm realistic and if he is successful in his career he will make hundreds of millions of dollars. Eli Manning Just retired after fifteen seasons. I think he made close to two hundred million dollars dollars. Majored in it. All Miss Good luck trying to make anything With a singular degree. It's it I mean I I know I was probably misinterpreted But but I said what I said because someone like to. Who is one of the most elite quarterbacks? I've ever seen is in rarified air when it comes to something like that most most most college football players here's do need a degree because the the odds of them making it in the NFL are miniscule. Okay all right so you would so you would just single him out. You would say try to be straight here A to A. I'm not gonNA give. There's just gonNA offer Lip Service and say well. He really needs to agree. He doesn't really need his degree. It'd be it would be great if he gets it. You just heard the professor minute ago. Talk about Jalen hurts. And what a great student he it was and and and a heavy emphasis is put on academics Alabama now. That was what I should have said in in in contradicting in The loudmouths from Pittsburgh but I I don't want to give the impression that I'm Minimizing Education Shen. But when when you talk about a generational football player whether he gets his degree or not is probably going to have a minimal impact or effect on his earnings power. Okay well I can certainly see that if indeed and I would like to major in that would lead him to Making hundreds of millions of dollars. Maybe some sort of physics or ASTROCHEMISTRY every on my my league F but I understand I understand your point now But the idea. I'm sure you agree that the idea of the ten college. It's really not the play football. It's it's uh-huh a degree in Guam. Better I I want to believe what you just said but I don't I don't know I don't know too many players who who signed Wednesday that Were more concerned about what they're majoring in. Whether or not they would be starting. Well I understand no. I'm walking deeper and deeper into Getting reprimanded by the the National Association of College Professor. But I I I try to be as transparent on this program as I can be okay even in the well okay. I'm not going to attack cruciate you're having me on the show I have great I have tremendous disrespect for education. My wife has a brilliant Resume in education. I don't I mean I I I really don't I'm I'm proud of having a college degree but but I bet she has a medical degree and From from an outstanding school and other degrees to go along with that I'm I'm I mean you. You don't need a wall to put my degrees up you can. You can put them up over the television. Why only to us you? And by the way I I would like if I I would like to go back and get a few more love to be A. Thanks for the call by the way I'd love to be a doctor so I can call in radio shows and talk about how important portent education versus becoming the number one or two or three or four pick in the NFL draft and signing a thirty million dollar bonus. Listening the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Well we made it to the end of the week. Appreciate you being a part of the show. We will see you on Monday. Thank you for listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast the Paul Finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the S._E._C.. Network beginning at three eastern.

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Listen Grantham is definitely on the second list Coach he'd be He'd be a decent coach from me Miami. Is he a home run. Hire no Lord. Now he's GonNa Lane Kiffin you know but But he do all right from the start. I believe We'll see if that's the case who knows But the reason I called a windy roll into the big easy Late Friday they you know. Have you got a minute memory tons a couple of weeks ago. I'd like to talk about LSU and Koto Giron finish our discussion got a minute. Of course yeah You know we were talking about Doj Iran and what have you. Did you say the other day and that he growing up at he worked on a shrimp both blatantly. Say I believe I did. Yes well when I made that joke we may need when men. You were having vilified a few weeks ago and the only thing I said I I said one thing about Kolja Rod and I was being one hundred percent foolish and I thought you knew I was being one hundred foolish and I said that statement the week of the Alabama Lsu game so. That's what's really surprised me when you said a month later than that you will personally offended by that remark and I hope you know that I was was being. I was joking when I said that as a fan you know and I didn't mean anything Anything personal about coach. Oh I probably knew more about coach. Oh chosen you did. At the time. I knew that he grew up in Lellouche Perish did. Did you know that you knew that. I did not know that Twenty years I knew he grew up. He played high school with Bobby and He after bill the shoe he went back to North West University and played college with Bobby. Hebert I'm sure you most people know that. So I like I said Ah I meant nothing personal. That's good and and I I am going to concede the- you know much more about everything realize you were talking to the Louisiana Kid. No I didn't didn't I worked on already for eight years dude in my twenties Out of perish. I mean I called more boats more helicopters out of Grandma Randolph Louisville and been is Fhu Sean. I mean man. Lynn coach Oh probably rub elbows sometime. And when I made that joke about in and people. That didn't know what I said and again it was all in joking suggest and I said that. Just can't joke on the show anymore that Kodjo so joe was riding burrows back this year and then if it wasn't for Joe Borough he'd be captaining shrimp boat Outta Grandma. I said that is because I'm familiar with grandma now and I'm pretty familiar with people that live in part of the country. You either work in the oil rigs or you work on. Triple with your indulgence squirrel. I WANNA take back my personal offended tonight at the fact that I was personally offended by your jokes well believe anything play with personally offensive Turtle Squirrel. I think I can be honest with you. Were good friends. I mean you sat next to me. You stood next to me when I had my ted Tay with John Cone when you buried in first hatchet back when I personally Through myself in front of the the state program trying to save it from extinction I've been through a tough time lately and my humor has left me. I'm trying I'm trying to see where I could go to get it back because I'm very well. Something happened on this show a couple of weeks ago and I haven't gotten over it yet and somebody disappeared and come back and you know I mean remember. Remember that first crush the in high school you could never get over. I heard you pleading for him the other day to call in gyms GONNA come back. He's got the nation needs to more than you need him. Right now but I'm afraid that he's busy right now. Isn't he in charge of doing good. Your show's done good. We've got the Peach Mint we've got Iran. Charges is nutrition. It's time for you right now. But I'm telling you you'll just be patient okay. He's going to come back to you. Thanks for taking my thank you very much girl. I'm forgiven for forgiving. You crystal was in Florida. Hello Crystal Hey Paul how are you we are doing great. Thank you thank you. I'm just so happy to Call in because I want to let you know my mother and I listened to you everyday. We're loyal fans of your show thinking we just really enjoy it I was going to talk about Mack Jones but I would like to follow up on previous callers comment about todd. GRANTHAM and his conflict with Derek Mason a few years years ago. I want to clarify that. Derek Mason started that he was unhappy about what of his players getting personal fell with a Florida play with a Vanderbilt player and their Mason came over and confronted taught Brandman half his his team came with him. And that was when Todd Grantham reacted to bet because Derek was up in his face and they unmown with his fight in a heartbeat back up that but I just want to clarify Derek Mason started that one okay and I think Grantham was defending his player. But I remember it was. Asia was also defending fire when he gave the choke sign a couple of years ago to a player. I didn't I didn't say that I I was going to say that I thought Grand Might Be a pretty good candidate for Mississippi State head coach position because I thought he was doing forget as offensive. It's a coordinator bet. I'll have to follow up on that show signs because I was not aware that that night. Ironically I when he was at Georgia it was given I believe he He gave it to a Florida kicker. No he didn't shame on him. Well maybe he's matured since then hope we can hope but I thought I thought he had a pretty good Position where he is now. He's seems to have a good relationship relationship with Dan and they seem to have good union thing going but maybe he accepted the defensive coordinator. And you have your you have your first shot at a head. Coaching job you you would probably take it. I mean he's he's well thought of as a D. Coordinator he's been at Louisville. He's obviously state in Florida and a number number of places in the in the. NFL is joy of Virginia. Tech Guy but I think he would have a hard time turning it down crystal. Yes I agree if I think he would jump jump into position. I don't think he'd do pretty good. I think he would whip people into shape. He might Russell feathers but I think it pretty good as head coach. I listen I don't want to make it just ridiculous statement but I think right now anyone would be better than what. Mississippi State has agree. I agree and I don't think that's ridiculous. Okay thank you so really good to have you on BEN IS IN ORLANDO. Hello Bennett Hi. How are you weird? Well thank you. Hi How are you know. A lot of people are talking about the talk math today and I was wondering and saw a Florida Fan but obviously to get a lot of coverage down here If you think that Dan Mullen is currently kinda eyeing out potential defensive coordinators right now specifically Iran Roberts over Louisiana. 'cause they had a top twenty defenses here any coach who who has a well thought of assistant or any athletic director who has a similar situation with the head. Coach always always have to be aware and I mean Dan Mullen does not live in a vacuum he. He knows he would know before we knew that grandson was in the a mix don't forget Mullin would probably be called for council but he also he also knows everyone at Mississippi state too so I'm sure he's got somebody in mind. And by the way the coaching convention I believe. Starts this weekend in Nashville. So even I it's the ideal L. Place to show up an interview anyone to your heart's content. Okay thank you very much. Thank you nice of you. Call really good stuff. Dan is in Oregon. And you're on the air. Hello Dan Hey Paul how are you doing very well thank you yeah. You're looking good Big Fan fan of the show Longtime Listener Infrequent caller. I find that you tend to cover everything but one question actually two questions if I may. It's just been possibly the only kind of dug into mutual. I look at what the NCAA does collegiate sports amount of money to make all of it. And how the kids play this game. They played it starts out to this game. They can't make even a pittance bitten off of their image to be used in a video game. Then you look at the end of the year when you've got the playoffs and teams are working to play in the playoffs. aalto teams that are there. And you've got kids aren't gonNA play at the end of the year because they're thinking of hopefully getting a job in the NFL getting that big payday. After all the work blood sweat and tears it put in for three four or five years at their college is the NCAA developing the best product and delivering delivering the best part that they can't come into the air door to gain of course on the lifelong bulldog's fans here from Savannah Georgia These kids are are are sitting out. I can't blame new Dan. The easy answer is no. They're not college. Football always is in flux right now. The College Football playoff was was intended to save the sport instead. I think it is had a deleterious effect because very little else matters so if your potential NFL star not everyone and not as many this year is I thought would sit out but a number of players will. We'll do that and have done that. Thanks for the call. We have much more to do on a Tuesday afternoon. We hope you'll stick around to listening to the Paul Finebaum show. PODCAST UNCAST works commissioner. Joining us covers LSU And Brooks we everyone else during this incredibly long layoff. We're we're we're looking for angles as I'm sure you are good afternoon. Good afternoon to you man. So what Where where is this? Lsu Football Team Team on day thirty eight of the layoff between the last time we saw them. It's actually only going to be sixteen days but it seems like that long. Well they're taking Monday and Tuesday offset offs. That back to practice tomorrow and It's working out for them because they don't have to go too far. I mean the team leaves Friday so you know. Get the ASHORT bus The short bus trip down to New Orleans. So you know everybody's playing and practicing here one of one of the things about that is that With that new role that people are using around country. Is that means you can have Incoming freshmen who are graduated early. Come and practice with the team. You've seen that recently. A million that's been Something for people to talk about here. See both incoming quarterbacks Max Johnson and teach a family practice along with tight. End Cole Taylor so there's been a a few things to look forward to And and watch them in these practices here in Baton Rouge. Yeah no that. That's a big thing about the way Give us some more information on those guys. Because that's is a big topic. What's going to happen when Joe Borough Leaves Yeah I mean Miles Brennan the backup. He's played Several Times this season season I think entering the The off season He's the projected starter. I would I would I think would be probably the best way to say that. And you know Peter Parish Behind him and then you have Max Johnson. TJ Finley to true freshman and Obviously the question there is. Is there going to be room. And LSU's recruiting class last. Go out and pick up the transfer like they did whenever they went out and go god Jonesboro from Ohio state and I think if you're asking that question you kind kinda look at the differences between Lsu then Lsu now I think overruns been very vocal about his confidence and Brennan. I think the quarterback back room at this time is probably more healthy than it was at that time But it's still a question whether you want to bring in some competition or not so miles. DRENNAN is A call them a championship quarterback and and press conferences and he's played pretty well when we came in this year and it seems like him in the offense offense over a year I think they would be comfortable putting his hands for the march for Spring Football Brexit. There's been some speculation about transfers out there Is Is there much to that or these as you said. Do you think the The Room is already jammed up You know it's it's once you get around to signing day. That's one of the questions you'll see whenever is there space for it What guys will end up assigning in February? I think I think It it. It's a question for sure You know it's not not necessarily something that's super buzz right now but But but you never know. Let's talk about just the overall mood down there. It's got to be really good to say the least but in the past past. LSU's had plenty of experience playing in New Orleans. They've won two. They've lost one. Describe what that's like because everyone and looks forward to do these trips. You don't go to the national championship game very often. Unless you're Alabama or Clemson the the average the average LSU fan will they go to New Orleans other than the day of the game. How does it work? Yeah I mean There's a lot of talk right now whether Lsu's going to give the students class off or not But I don't think it's GonNa make much of a difference there's GonNa be a big trail from baton rouge to New Orleans As Zack Backbone Rosenberg to her At LSU said he's he's he's I think he's about twenty twenty eight years old But he's he's the he's the only player out of those that can remember the two thousand three championship. And he was there whenever the saints won the superbowl and all that when I asked him what would happen. LSU wanting to say they'd probably burn New Orleans down the There's GonNa be a big party. That's Louisiana and South Louisiana You know it's it's it's exciting for them and the the funny thing is it's like of course. LSU's issues in the national championship this year. Whenever it's in New Orleans that's where they play Yeah two thousand three two thousand seven two thousand eleven and You know it's not even encyclical th th the Congress you did me of that a couple of months ago. I looked a lot smarter than I did right. Yeah well I wish I'd said it to. We all look look pretty good right now but Yeah it's it's clear homefield advantage you know in the quarter in the stadium. It's it's it's home game for them for sure. Yeah I already seen some of the list but I would imagine every former L. Lsu player on on in this part of the universe is going to be there to It's it's it's if you've got some sort of Tied Hi to the university or have a chance to get in they're gonNA make it I expect that you'll see a lot of familiar faces there that day. 'cause you already do just putting on TV every day. But that's beside the point burgess in terms of the layoff. I know there's no secret potion and you mentioned the Tigers being off a couple of days and but I mean what's your thoughts on. How coach handle this? Because this is a long time to manage a team name that started the season in late August. I think the way overruns handled this. I got a chance to sit down with One of his consultant John Robinson Hall of fame coach formerly at Senator Now He's been there this whole year. One of the things. That head coach is always concerned concerned about is like what's the state of the team. How tired of they are they tired? Or you need a break I think he's got a good pulse of that. And you know giving them Monday day in Tuesday's arrestable before starting again. I think just the way that he manages practices He's he's done that very well. The interesting thing. I think we've talked on the show about. It is time with the New Orleans Saints Defense Salon coach. Two Thousand Eight. He's used what he's learned in the NFL where you've got fewer players To not wear people out practice. He's executed that that both USC and Lsu here. And I think that's what he's probably most concerned about at this point is Making sure that well rested. I mean this is the longest season I'm that Lsu's ever played in history Tons of games and funny that we're constantly having the conversation that's playoff expansion. which would mean more games but I think that's probably what he's making most and giving them that time. Starting again tomorrow for practice. John Robinson you mentioned is in his mid eighties. He's he's twice coached at se won a national championship. Forty thirty forty years ago forty years ago I believe Tell us about that conversation in. And what influence and impact he he has had this year. If you ask John Robinson what is impact is. He'll tell you nothing. Exactly what what he told me I was like so you know you can still draw is. He doesn't need me. I say yeah you're doing it right keep doing it But I think the main thing that he's therefore or for that if there was something wrong with the big picture The building of a national championship program. If there was something that was off John Robinson would recognize that. And and I I think Does Ron values having him around meeting rooms and the players and everything else to not not only Have a sense. This is the pulse of what's going on and if something's off to let them know but kind of reinforce That championship expectation. Here's a guy who's done it. Here's here's a guy in the hall of fame this is what Lsu is trying to build. And I think Robinson's definitely executed. That very well and you see him talking to not just assistant coaches coach but players being around being a resource for people It definitely helps those Ron's case to build A championship culture within within within the program. Which I think? He's constantly thinking and constantly Building there But you know that I think that's I think that's John Robinson's main role. and He. He he discussed that too and It's it's funny when you you talked to somebody who sees Ozran that much every day someone who knows him that while you you wonder if there's some I'm sort of secret some sort of You know whether it's a conversation or moment or anything and It it's really just from his perspective is like you know they're doing everything right So that that I think that's mainly his role. It just shows you that the Os Ron's been able to make some right choices that this tenure With with Lsu well done brooks thank you as always great to have you on C.. Soon Brooks could be an outstanding reporter down in Baton Rouge. WHO's we are heading to a break? We have more on the program. Look forward to talking to you when we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum bomb. Show podcast. Let's continue with more calls. Mark is in Louisiana. Hello Mark Hey Paul so nice beyond your show thank you thank you so much for taking my call First Time caller I just wanted to Say out then. I went to college coach. Joe's Ron and I've known his character and what he's done for this team and it's been amazing share but First and foremost I think that Obviously that it Lsu Their defense is really under looked in the last three or four games. You really stepped up and I really think there's GonNa be a real defensive battle and and I don't think they're going to go stop village. She so I'm I'm saying forty two to seventeen. That's a score that that would be similar to last year in reverse. Hey thank you for the call appreciate it. Let's check out ricky in Mississippi. Hello Ricki Hall Allows House here you gain thank you just just call in to To See about this Tigress insane you you you think it's GonNa controversial. I certainly think it's on the table Listen you're Mississippi state and you fire Joe Moorhead and I've always wondered Rickie when you fire someone. Shouldn't you have somebody ready to hire. You would think yeah. You don't fire somebody and then go to Google and it's a new coach. Yeah Yeah like yeah I understand I I I think it was a reactionary type of fire. You know they because they when you remember they there was planning on keeping them for another year and now I guess whatever happens in that in that bowl game which which is which is real strange. I just had enough But I remember ricky going into this is what Baffles me about the coaching. Search there which is just times been comical but when you you go into the egg bowl and you know if you're coach coach loses. You're getting a new coach. Shouldn't you have a list coaches at. You're ready to pounce on already already. Yeah you would think but they may have but I but they decided to keep them in being the flipflop. I don't Know Cohen is I. I know he was a former baseball coach and they were okay so what I mean this is this is this is not this is not being a good. Ada If you ask me well ultimately you're you're judged by by by by the end result Process but yeah. He looks to me like he put all his eggs in the billionaire. Bassett up then he decided okay. Say We'll get the guy that will be the easiest higher in the world Somebody that no one has ever heard of Joe Judge and Matt Rua the last second decides. He's not going to the giants or the giants and rebound move after all the tabloid in New York. Today to coach. They hired judge judge so now he goes Okay what do we do now where I guess. I've mentioned Tom Grant some last week. You you did when you mentioned him. I didn't think he would get it because this the spin out of Starkville at the time it was that they wanted a head coach. It's obviously changed pretty dramatically. Yeah but you know when you file but when you fi- coaches debt Fayette. AM Some sometimes. That can backfire on you and you know because a lot of people when they you know they look at jobs like this man. I don't know if I want the job. Eight five million next year. You know people get scared. You know so ultimately ricky you have to reserve judgment and I was was joking a minute ago. I I have a feeling that They have done due diligence on a number of candidates but the field of candidates is not great. And it's getting weaker by the hour. Yeah for one thing. It's it's almo- it's like it's like no been a bowl game aim and losing recruiting attack. You know the time is awful riddick. When when they did that but I usually? Here's one of the golden rules they didn't if you're going to fire someone you probably should be ready to hire the next person as quickly quickly as possible and especially when you fire somebody in A. I'm not talking about firing him. After the last game. You Lose Ole Miss Forty five to nothing. That's a different situation nation right but you know they. They just don't seem like they were ready or prepared this he I mean he's he's a Cohen. Just he's he's he's you know he's on the job training. I guess you know and he. He asked his stuff he has to learn and and now if they do end up with grant them I think that he will Probably the the best. They'll be able to get right now. I don't know I. I heard a couple of times ricky and if I'm running in Athletic Department I don't want to settle. I WANNA get somebody who makes a difference. WHOA yeah but who I don't know I have the Listed Cohen does right now. He's he's the one that made the decision station to To replace and it's up to him to find a new coach because chief achieving I think he would have made the difference but Interest is looking pretty good right now. Yeah Yeah but I I tell you man If if this this this this is going to be a hot mess. I I think it was the reaction there at five because Lane Kiffin With Ole Miss Your and let me ask you Steve. Sarkisian name was floated earlier earlier today. How would that grab you? They defense I think they need. They need more here was office of got to do and see how that turns out. I think they need someone. 'CAUSE 'cause the team itself it just seems that they lost when when mother was there and Granton was dead they would you knew using the football game. You play them I they had they had the toughness and they and seemed to me when When I got there they just lost it? Man It's like the could tackle they. Could you know they just didn't had no firing I just. They didn't look like the same type I mean he's like he's squandered that covered that Dan Mullen live. And and so you know if it's GonNa be it's GonNa be hard to replace them. I tell you I I I I don't know what's going to happen with with a fan but but anyway Let me ask you a question. Ricky Your Mississippi State Guy. Would you take the job. Listen I'm just trying to help them fill the job that's all I ah. I don't want this state coaching search to go any longer than it needs to. I'm just trying to line up candidates in case GRANTHAM turndown engine down cheesy turns it down the post this The postmaster general and startled turns it down. Yeah athere runs and chick-fil-a campus. I JUST WANNA make sure they have a coach ready to go where they may have to look at Some of these SPF Schools Man. You know what I would like to know in this. I would like to know why they haven't called Bill Clark Uab. Well that's that's what I was speaking about. I mean this guy is eminently qualified. He's a proven head coach in in high school He was a Jacksonville state. I think he was somewhere. Morale's may have been South Alabama can't remember But he but he's done a brilliant job at U. A. B. C.. That's that's I thought about him. I thought about him but I I I said well they probably. It probably wouldn't come either. That's why Ricky I need. I need to yes out of you. They can't do by the way. I I can't promise you the job. I got to be available in case everybody else turns it down. We got introduced somebody at the press conference French. If they change maybe okay. Well I'll I'll see you see what I can do in the negotiation ricky. Thanks great to have you on. We'll take a short break We are back back with much more after listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back Greg is up next Greg. Thank you good after name. Take it after Paul. Taking my call. I was this to one of your previous callers and discussing Mississippi State and one of the problems with the timing of more has firing was that you know we know that eighty was didn't have any intention of firing them at that. You're really good point there. Yeah and so you know one of the questions that you have to ask. If you're a perspective higher going in is who do I work for you know because most stay d's have a real autonomy and anytime school president step skin to really create a lot of problems. You know Steve we've created problems that still reverberating offer with his decision. You know with gusts in and so now that the president has stepped in West prevent the down from us again or interjecting another area in creating havoc to the fell. Yeah I thi I think napier is just a key to this Greg and I'm just going to give an opinion here. I don't think grandson is going to be the coach. I think that's a little bit of a a rush to judgment maybe some desperation and I don't mean that in a negative way but Grandson was at Mississippi State for one year of what does that does that. Qualify him to be the head. Coach there there To Me Napier has said no a couple of times but if napier doesn't get the Baylor job and there's a lot of rumblings out there that that Bay were may just do it You know may may stay the course with what they have on staff. The Napier could be back in the Mississippi state situation. Well if I if I'm not mistaken the hang up with. was that Napier one on more money than they wanted the pay well again. I'm sure that's true. By the way in every negotiation I've ever been witnessed too. That's is always the issue. So it's also I met. Rule took the Carolina job. He asked the owner the owner SS agent What's IT GONNA take? I think they gave them A. They gave him a number in the. The owner may have exceeded it. I heard it was around seven million. So that's that's seventy dollars. A coach in the NFL is astronomical. Yeah so I if if nature's GonNa do it I think probably if I didn't realize they were paying that much I may have to get back in the NFL. So I just think they. They've really hurt themselves. You know and it may settle out in the end but in the near-term it really hurts themselves. And the longer they take The more this impact also add and I I. I don't. I'm not going to give you the cliche about about like sausage. You don't like to watch the make it but these things seem like they're taking forever because they are but outside of Mississippi restate fans the rest of the country is probably not paying much attention to this. So it's it feels like Defcon one in Starkville will but but everyone else is going okay. Great just. Tell me when you have a coach. Hey thanks for the call Glenn up next to Hello Glenn. Hey Paul thanks for my call. Thank you five. I'm a long-time listener ever since YEP satellite wonder and I gotTa Tell You Your show Oh has been so helpful for me of these last years I actually had heart transplant three years ago. Oh my God that was a hospital for a year and I gotTa Tell You you know what I'd sit in in the afternoon a high school and I just watch your show. I just thoroughly enjoyed it and you know I'm doing great. That is that is I can't say. Hey how much that means to us and and I from the sound of Your Voice. You sound like you've done pretty well thank you. Yeah I did. I mean they told me lost me a few times and it's just taking this time and I can't wait. I've been out of work for years because of my heart but literally. I'm going back to work next month and I feel great and everything's just that is and I and you've really helped me. You know with your with your callers and just the Tony our show. I don't listen to every day but I listen a lot and I wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for stuff. Well Glenn Thank you now. I had a treat for new years and it was unique. My older son went to Alabama Tuscaloosa. My younger son is a junior at the University of Minnesota. Needless to say had both games on side I could ever imagine a better afternoon. I know that is incredible Yeah so what a treat and so thank you for for sharing. Ask You a question Glenn I yeah I'm I'm really interested in when you go through something like that and and in terms of seriousness We all think could that whatever's wrong with us is the end of the world and we find out it's really not but what what you've been through how how does how does it has. It changed your attitude food. How does it affect your your thought process? Because I mean you're you're you're talking about some incredibly serious stuff you for for months. I mean yeah absolutely incredible. I'll tell you thank you for the question you know. There's two things that I that I've taken away from the experience you went. I thought it was a kind of person I think. Everybody thinks they're kind. But I found new gears for kindness. You know in the second thing is i. Don't get hung up on anything. 'cause it's that perspective you realize you know. Hold a grudge. What yeah okay five minutes? That's it it's just it's it's perspective and it it really aligns like what's really important and it's it's your friends and family relationships in the rest of its noise and then you know be productive always try to be productive in new stuff. And that's what's driven me through it to. It's always a little bit and and and so it's it's you know it's it's a weird way to figure things out. But but that's that was some of the uncanny by that is so interesting and I appreciate your say because I listen we. We all know people that have been through some difficult things. I'm not sure I have anything comparable to what you have gone through. But I just thought of as you said I mean I. I can't be any more more fortunate in terms of what I do everyday but I still get caught up in minutiae like why. Why is this happening and you just stopped me from I? I mean why and and I guess maybe you have to go down that road to have a better perspective but you tell me today I can assure you thanks so much. Thanks so much you know. Frankly I mean people say what they say you know. Island are the point of your show since since it has satellite and frankly I can give you a point where I was born in Mississippi so you know and I got relatives so so I get but but but your show you call that we're at the end of the segment and the end of the hour but all the best to you and hope to talk to you again very soon.

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