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Lancaster Spotlight, Part 2: A Refugee's Tale
"N. P. R. Stuffing Nude was born in Mogadishu Somalia in Nineteen Ninety two. His father owned and ran a few small businesses. We had an ice cream shop and we had a clothing store but the ice cream would have been there. The big moneymaker back then because someone is a very hot country but when Mustafa was eleven the Somali terrorist group. al-shabaab asked his father to provide them with funding. SPA refused multiple times. Missed office says and then one day around noon members of Al Shabaab came to missed office house and in front of Mustafa his mother and his seven younger siblings. The murdered his father in their courtyard by four PM. The family was fleeing Somalia Amalia. So we didn't have any time to Like start thinking where we should we go. We should we take Wouldn't even take any of our belongings. The only item I I just managed to grab a bitch it from my bed. That's pretty much that's all you left with stuff in. His family. Spent roughly the next decade until he was twenty two in refugee camps in Kenya until they were resettled Lancaster City Pennsylvania in two thousand fourteen and out of these tragic circumstances is just five years later. Mustafa is a small business owner. Just like his dad was refugees like him and other immigrants are a meaningful part of a complicated success story story the story of how Lancaster City and surrounding Lancaster county have prospered economically. I'm Stacey Management and I'm Cardiff Garcia. This is indicated for planet. Money when you're listening to episode to our spotlight on Lancaster County Pennsylvania on today's episode. What Lancaster success tells us about the relationship between refugees and and their local economy this message comes from? NPR sponsor state farm. Why do you need state farm renter's insurance because it helps protect stuff landlords? Don't like your furniture that gets drenched by a broken pipe. State Farm Renter's insurance find an agents or get a quote at State Farm Dot Com about two years into their stay at a Kenyan refugee camp after fleeing Somalia Mustafa Nor and his family found that they had been selected to be resettled in the US and initially they had mixed feelings so in the country select you. You're notified two years in that. Hey you know. United States has selected you and that has in the refugee camp that always comes as a great news center. Santa about bad news because Because the United States takes the longest to process innovating they have a hard process. They have hottest scrutiny. Hot above ranch aches six. And he's right. The vetting process for refugees coming to the. US is intense. There's multiple interviews and background checks and security checks by different branches of the US government. It's fingerprints tests for contagious diseases. It can take years from office family. It took a decade but eventually as with other refugees who make it through the whole process assess. The family was paired with a resettlement agency. Mustafa and his family were paired with Church World Service which has a branch in Lancaster. It's nonprofit that receives funding funding from the federal government and from private donors and it sets up refugee families with a few months of housing some counseling services food and clothing and then they tried to US find your job right away because once you around here you have to start paying your bill for the government for bringing you a lot of people. I don't know this but yes refugees payback the US government for the cost of flying here from the southwest big family. Those were not cheap flights around eleven twelve hundred per person so a family of ten ten people. You get a bill of almost ten thousand dollars. Mustafa says he found Lancaster City. Lancaster County unexpectedly welcoming to his refugee family and to other refugee families and that in fact is the city's reputation in two thousand sixteen before the trump administration started limiting. How many refugees could come to the US? The number of refugees were resettled. In Lancaster. City hit a peak of four hundred and seven as a share of the city's population. That's almost twenty three times more more refugees resettled than in the US as a whole which is why. The city was labeled the refugee capital of America by the BBC. So why is Lancaster able to resettle so many refugees. One reason is resources. For example Church World Service. The Resettlement Agency is able to partner with local organizations to provide services is beyond just the basics beyond the initial housing and food and clothes for example. There's a nonprofit that provides health care to refugees. English language tutors the school district and in universities to help with education employment programs and companies that will actively try to hire refugees and train them. She masto Prieto runs. The Lancaster Office of Church World World Service and she says that all these resources make it possible for Lancaster to accept even the hardest cases. Like when there's a huge refugee family of ten or fifteen people or when a refugee has a medical issue and can't work or if a refugee only speaks a really obscure foreign language there are no cases in this area that we that we would refuse so we do have the option when cases sent to us by our national office to say they basically. They're saying will you accept this case so we always do and it's not just tangible resources. There's something else that has given Lancaster the ability to absorb refugees. Its history starting. In the early eighteenth century entry members of the Mennonite and Amish churches were fleeing persecution in Europe and started moving to Lancaster. The county still has a huge amish mennonite population and and the value of welcoming people in need of a new home has remained Steve Noel. A professor at Elizabethtown College spoke with us at the Mennonite historical society which features exhibits exhibits about the Amish and Mennonite history of Lancaster. Well in the in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties. For example Mennonites in this area were were deeply involved in resettlement of refugees from Southeast Asia. from from Vietnam Cambodia Laos and that's that was motivated both by Christian humanitarian concerns and also concerns that as Mennonites as conscientious objectors pacifists. I am in fact Mustafa's own experience right after arriving in Lancaster reflects this my first ever job. was I worked with Amish. I used to work for a company that build moved garages and sheds so used to install windows. He did well enough at this job installing windows for these sheds that he was hired by a company called E. Impact Marketing working which provides marketing for amish companies in the area in which trained Mustafa in Web design. Mustafa would end up becoming their head web developer and then he started thinking thinking more broadly he started a company called bridge which is a website where people can sign up to have dinner in the home of a refugee family in the area. The refugee family will cook the meal and share their story and the family will also said a fever. The dinner which it gets to keep bridge charges service fee which is how it makes money. Mustafa's office original pitch for bridge. One A business plan competition which provided the funding to get started. My feature was done I was gonNA instead of instead of free training or giving refugees a new skill. Why not give them a plot from where they can on an income with what they already know and we'll have their culture under food and part one we? We explained how refugees and immigrants contribute to an economy by helping its population grow and giving new businesses more people to sell two into higher Adamo MIC. The Lancaster based economist. I says it stories. Like Mustafa's also demonstrate the more subtle ways to immigrants and refugees contribute a move into neighborhoods that others might find less desirable herbal and they start interesting businesses and they really contribute to the diversity of consumer experiences downtown and you can in downtown like stir. You can eat into Vietnamese place. You can meet on Nepalese place. There's just a huge amount of writing. Her Moustapha says his company is making money and he even has plans to expand into neighboring in York County and he adds. His story shows the symbiotic relationship between the Lancaster economy and it's refugees and it goes something like this. The success of the Economy Konami makes it possible for the city to offer resources to these refugees so that they can prosper and they're prospering feeds right back into the success of the Lancaster economy. So what happens happens is warning refugee person comes here the community. This community has done a very good job of harnessing that refugee person as a whole from employment to training to the job opportunities to internship training. So I I went through those different circles of of coming here sieving. Welcome Hi finding a stable able job and then how developing a skill. Which is the development web development using that skill to create a company? Now so it's a great circle on. It's it's a something which is very I don't WanNa say unique. What's special about Lancaster? Lancaster is now a pretty good place to get it by. This episode of the indicator was produced by Lena Sons Gary fact check by Nadia Lewis. Our Editors Paddy Hirsch in indicator is a production of NPR
The Lancaster, Pa., Puzzle
"N. P. R. Everyone it stacey and Cardiff and this is the indicator from planet money today on the show we are shining spotlight on Lancaster. County Pennsylvania We visited the county a couple of months ago because it represents this kind of economic puzzle it is a heavily rural county with a lot of manufacturing jobs and a very low share of of college educated workers these are economic traits that have been devastating to the economies of other similar counties including a lot of other counties in Pennsylvania itself and yet Lincolnshire County is doing great. It's thriving why is that. What makes its economy? Special would have find out. We took a drive through the county with an economist who lives there and economists who happens to specialize in the very trends that have kept lancasters economy resilient this message comes from. NPR sponsor. American Express say yes to payment flexibility and card choices including ones with no annual fee. Don't do you business without it. Rates and fees apply learn more at American Express Dot com slash. No annual fee support also comes from Google fi a phone plan by google. Google fi is made with features that people actually want like unlimited data per line and the freedom to use any smartphone. You want or already have learn more at at five dot. Google dot com on a recent Tuesday morning indicator team was driving through Lancaster. County Pennsylvania With Adam Ozanich and economist. Who lives there? They're these houses are nice by the old mill. Is Dave concerns left back to that road. Can I go right here doing. Yeah okay so we took a few dragging their Cardiff and after passing through some leafy suburbs similar to the one that Adam grew up in we stopped to check out the Mennonite historical Oracle Society which has exhibits about. The county's famous amish. Mennonite past is kind of this is kind of exciting spot right here because you have like outlet shopping shopping rate here but like right there like if you just go like two hundred yards. You've got farms like it's it gets extremely rural extremely remove fast outlet. Shopping and farms is exciting at Lancaster. County has this kind of unique topography. It is a rural county. That is about a two hour Dr West of Philadelphia. It has five hundred forty thousand residents and it's probably best known for its big amish community and its sprawling farms where yes. If you're driving along. On one of the highways you will often spot amish people and horse buggies yet but here are to economic facts about Lancaster. County the start of our economic puzzle. I I it has a big base of manufacturing jobs three decades ago more than thirty percent of the jobs in the county were in manufacturing and then two decades ago those those jobs started disappearing just like in other parts of the country. The jobs rather outsource to countries overseas or replaced by machines. But even now fifteen fifteen percent of all jobs in Lancaster are still in manufacturing. And that's almost double the percentage for the United States as a whole and here's the second fact. The county has a much smaller share of college educated adults than the rest of the country does and if you look at so many other cities and towns and counties in the US with these same economic characteristics they have suffered brutally in the last few decades as the lost manufacturing jobs often were not replaced by really good new jobs in other industries and so this communities ended up getting in kind of hollowed out but Lancaster County has avoided that fate. Yeah exactly that is the puzzle. Lancaster County is doing great. The county's households make more money than people in the rest as to the US. A higher share of the adults in the county have jobs than in the rest of the US and an index published earlier this year by the research company. Gallup found that Lancaster County County ranks eighth out of one hundred and fifty six counties that it surveyed for the wellbeing of its residents and that includes things like good career paths socialize and the health of those residents and you can see the the the way that strong economy sort of translates into overall quality of living. Is there too so the average life expectancy accuracy and Mike Stern is higher as well. So how did Lancaster County pull this off. Part of the answer is that there are other industries that have helped to cushion the blow of last manufacturing jobs ops Princeton's two thirds of the land in the county is farmland so there's a lot of agriculture cattle and poultry and eggs plus. The county includes dozens of small towns and villages ages with Quirky names like Paradise Mountjoy or my personal favorite burden hand Pennsylvania and they are themselves tourist attractions with architecture. Sometimes dating back hundreds in years to when German settlers I moved to the area and then there is Lancaster city which is by far the biggest and actually the only city in Lancaster County. The city city has about sixty thousand residents so only about eleven percent of the people who live in the county live in the city but as we drove into the city from the suburbs. Adam explain saying that the city has an important economic relationship with the rest of the county one that is still kind of evolving back in the eighties and nineties. When Adam was growing up in the Lancaster suburbs outside of the city Eddie? He remembers that the city itself had a lot of crime. And it also wasn't a place you wanted to go in fact you can only remember going there for two reasons. Entire childhood one was to go to the doctor and the other titanic. Downtown movie theater which doesn't exist anymore. I mean you had to write. I'm the king. Yes you did. Yes you had to. But Lancaster city has been revitalised since then. Local business leaders and local politicians have taken steps to attract investment in new businesses says to lower crime to restore replace crumbling buildings and now it has boutique stores gourmet coffee shops and we can confirm this firsthand a fantastic the ethnic dining scene. It's important to do that. LEGWORK reporting yeah now people come downtown to shop they come down to downtown to go to eat. It's it's it's become like sort of a magnet and draw says all this buried economic activity tourism retail restaurants. Construction Agriculture is made possible by a powerful trend that exists in Lancaster. County population growth. That's the key to this puzzle. The size of Lancaster County population has been growing steadily for decades. which it's the exact opposite of what's happening in most Pennsylvania counties and also about half of the counties in the US whose populations have been falling especially rural counties to think about becoming an entrepreneur in that environment is really tough? Because you know you're going to have less customer every year when a city or county has a falling population that usually means it will have have a week less vibrant economy because it means there are just fewer customers but there also fewer workers for businesses to hire so fewer businesses get started it also means the local government collect fewer tax dollars which could be spent on infrastructure. Teachers police officers social programs pensions. This makes place less attractive so then even more people leave and it creates a downward spiral. Adams's Lancaster County has had the opposite. Spiral an upward spiral. A rising population has given the economy. A boost which which itself disincentivize is that people already lived there from leaving it and it brings in new businesses a good example. The Tech Entrepreneur Kyle somber founded the passenger coffee shop in Lancaster City. Where coincidentally we had just stopped? Adam explains so right. Now we're on the east end of the city Eddie and actually the coffee shop that we earlier they Row certain coffee in the cell the beans to other coffee shops and it was started by a local local entrepreneurs and then an entrepreneur who went to Silicon Valley founded few startups sold the startups in sort of moved back here to. Aw do great stuff with the money. He made out there and he's been starting businesses and he's not the only person who had seen knew that as well there couple of reasons that Lancaster's population has continued to climb. I have a lot of kids which is enough to outpace the number of people who pass away who die not to be crude about it. Yes so there's a high birth rate in Lancaster for sure and I think that that is partly due to sort of the mennonite roots around. Here's the people have bigger families here and second immigration Lancaster County. The end especially Lancaster city have a reputation for being welcoming to immigrants and refugees immigrants from all over the world from Vietnam in Somalia in Mexico and and immigration obviously by definition helps population grow. It is literally people who move to an area but immigrants also contribute to the Lancaster economy. Other interesting interesting subtle ways and they are a big part of the reason that Lancaster city in particular has become a unique place. In fact. That is the subject of part two of our spotlight on Lancaster. Mr County which will run next week by the way if you live in a city with an interesting economic lesson
#WhoWouldWin: Chucky vs Tyrion Lannister
"After a night of drinking and gallivanting about the town Tyrian Lancaster was ready to enjoy some slumber, barely noticing the strange doll in the corner of his room. He dropped into bed four, but a mere instant immediately piecing together that something was very wrong. He left back up in grabbed his blade. It was then that Chucky the plastic murderer sprang to life. And with a hi-de-ho grabbed a blade to kill for the simple pleasure of it all. It's the IMF versus the killer doll. It's the hand of the Queen versus the lakeshore strangler. It's Terry Lancaster versus Chucky today. And welcome to another episode of who would win. I show that completely ignores anything important happening in the world. And instead, focuses on a fictional battle between two characters from the worlds of comic scifi and fantasy. I'm your host James Gabby and is always, I'm joined by my co host race Aquinas. Ray how're you feeling these days? I'm hurting a little bit only because I feel a little robbed after the general grievous battle. I'm not gonna lie. This one's going to stick with me for just a little bit general grievous versus blade. An excellent fan suggested. And I want to do what's right for the fans absolutely that I could possibly lose that battle. When I've got four lightsabres on my side against against fan pyre, dude. I'm just I'm it's a little sour and I hope to write that ship today. Do do you feel like you know, the fact that you lost that kind of represents your everyday life? You try hard. But it just doesn't happen for you. Like you seem to be falling short a lot, given my record in these battles, especially. When you take into account take out all the nonsense battles that you won my record is very, very strong. So I would disagree with that statement on its base is strong. If you take out how let's see how good your masculine are. If you took out all the battles, I one, which are the majority, by the way, what's your record? It's very, very good. It is right? It's almost perfect near near. All right. Great. We're off to a great start to show whenever we bring math into the equation. Joining us is a judge is a writer, director and performer Joseph Pleasants Joseph. Thanks for being on the who'd wind show. Tell us about everything that you're doing where we know you from and mixed signals the show you've got going right now. First of all, I wanna say thank you guys so much for having me here. I was ridiculous. I didn't even sleep last night. I'll let you know in an hour how I feel about it. Okay. All right, fine. Yeah. You guys can catch me at the pack theater. Every third Saturday of the month APM for my show mixed signals, which is basically comedy from all sides. I'm the next Evelyn of Chapelle show camp. He'll keeping his diverse as possible, lots of risky edgy. Sketches. A lot of great standup comedians as well as I was just recently featured on comedy, central as well as I will be in the upcoming short film pimps about a group of Pinson seventies to embark on selling Tupperware. This sounds fantastic kills like I've heard this story before. A tie. A timeless tale of. Story often told the tales of him selling Tupperware, Mary, Kay spinoff, it's gonna be fantastic. As a Netflix series waiting to happen. This is okay. This is fantastic. Joseph, you know, you're very active on the who would win. Facebook ruben. We're so appreciative of it. Get why tell us why first of all, I believe I have some of the best taste and pop culture and nerd culture, but not just nerd culture. Cool. Noor culture and I love kung FU movies. I love anime specifically tournaments enemy, such as Rony Kinchen. You haka show dragon ball z. I love it so much. I almost I can't even come to words how much I love the Facebook group, the idea of forget about everything else is going on right now, because the government kinda sucks, the climate is just coming at us. So we might as well, enjoy our time here and have some fun and really figure out who's better, you know, Zayda witchy, or right. Uh-huh. Who you Busa, you know, and that's the entire point of the show. We, we literally ignore every single thing, that's happening in the outside world, to focus only on this battle the find the, the positive thing about the who would wind show because you're right. We do forget about all the seemingly, quote unquote, important things the only important thing as far as I'm concerned. I'll tell you why. I actually do believe is really important thing is because think about all the people that have come together through all the social media platforms our listeners, we're not horribly far from a million downloads, you know what I mean? Like we're, we're in this love to say it's because Ray is so awesome. And he is would like to say that as well because. Moving on. So what I'm saying here Joe's of is that the reason I think it's okay, just because everybody can come together with opinions. You know, like no one's from the same background is Ray with United live in a box, and we actually eat on regular basis. So, you know, our opinions a little bit different, but we can agree sometimes on, who would win battles. And what have you. So it's a really cool community. And I gotta tell you, I'm really I don't know if the right word is thrilled or probably thankful that you're kind of joining in on this on. No as you're here representing the people today. Yes. This is an extra gravitas. Like, there's like a monster celebrity in the I'm not even kidding. I feel like there's a Mazar slavery. So I can't thank you enough. Please continue to do everything you do by the way, keep acting directing writing in. Yeah. That's, that's okay. Real comments on Facebook. That's alright. Again, we do we are very thankful for all of the people who consume who would win in all the various social media platforms. Keep doing it. Keep reaching out to us. We are super receptive to that end. I would say, Terry and Lancaster. And one of the reasons why he is on the show is because he was suggested so often on the Facebook group now, we might not always take the specific battle. Although we did last week, we will take characters like we, if you put a character in the thing we will take an honest, look at that character. And even if we don't think that battle is exactly what we want to do for any number of different reasons which could be completely out of control. These characters definitely could spin on and have a life of their own. You're absolutely right. And there's a reason why I wanted everyone to put their suggestions for who invite within the Facebook group, not necessarily on Twitter or Instagram, or just in, you know, wherever else, the reason why is because I wanted a place where, you know, because he's see online sometimes people make suggestions for fights or groups or battles whatever. And then. Horribly inadvertently someone comes along and just starts trashing it and saying that's a stupid fight, or that's not cool. That's right. And I don't want that. So I wanted the Facebook group for who would win to be a place where you could suggest a fantastic idea or maybe an idea that's not thought up. Or maybe it's ninety that's maybe not the best, but we'll definitely consider it. Yeah. And it will celebrate the fact that you're suggesting awesome for even the stupid suggestions. So if you're going home thinking of giving us a terrible stupid suggestion that's already been done ten million times over do it anyway. I might still make fun of you. But you won't know. Yeah. Make what we call a race to Kane of suggestion. Thank you. Okay with it. Thank you. I actually think I can't remember who did it. But I've been thinking about subzero versus Darth maul for the past like two weeks. Not six rematch of that is a great match up. Now I'm going to be thinking about it for the next two weeks. He's sorry, but we were focused on tier Lancaster versus shut. That's right. So with thank you for. There you go. 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It's what you do with it, that counts Tyrian Lancaster and representing the cinematic, universe the dull who proves that murder is so easy. It's child's play Chucky. Well done Ray 'cause I I just like how your hands move very animated during the show. Yeah. Covering your face too close to him. You're getting anyway I before we go any further. Let's go over the official rules of a who would win match down rule. Number one, each debater. We'll be able to make three points rule. Number two, the who'd want matches a random encounter in a neutral location with neither combatant necessarily knowing anything about their opponent or having any time to prepare for it. We'll number three the exact version of the character has to be specifically stated so you're going with Chucky from the child's play movies at his correct. And I'm going with the what I call the ultimate bad ass of game of thrones hearing Lancaster from the TV series, not the book. I think that's great. Cool. All right. Rule number four. The winner of the woodwind win debate is remember, the judges is has the best ability to incapacitate their opponent to the degree where they can safely walk away with no further threat being present. This includes completely destroying their opponent, removing them from the field of battle restrain them. We're knocking them out. The who'd went battles are not necessarily death. Matches rule number five the judge can disallow veto. Appoint made by one of the debaters, if they feel it goes outside of the scope of the battle or is a relevant to the fight. And lastly rule number six each us examples of powers, abilities, or weapons that are part of the specific characters continuity, or at least was with that character for good deal of time. One off examples of powers or abilities that were use only once in the characters history will not be allowed. And now, let's get to the tale of the tape or both of our combatants today sale. The tape is brought to you by race. It the hashtag raise right? Who would win t shirts or even better one, the classic hashtag, who would win t shirts. It's okay, not bad. Go onto Amazon dot com and type in hashtag, who would win or tag Ray is right to pull up our two assortment. That's all we can you say to for? I think you can in this race, by the way, there will be more hashtag, who would win shirts coming out in the near future. We're working on it. We're working on it. Cool. All right. So, right. Please give us the details on Chucky. Chucky is actually the vengeful spirit of a murderer named Charles Lee Ray he was created by Don Mancini. John Lafia, and Tom Holland. Not that one for the nineteen Eighty-eight movie. Child's play Charles Lee Ray was a serial killer, who was shot by police and hid in a toy store, where he used voodoo powers in order to put his spirit and consciousness into a nearby. Good guy doll modeled after the my buddy dolls of the eighties thusly. He was able to survive evade capture and continue on his murderous rampage. There are certain benefits to being trapped inside of a doll, namely Chucky is able to hide in plain sight. And most of the time as nobody expects the doll in the corner to actually hurt them also being made of plastic allows for a great deal of damage to be taken by Chucky without keeping him down for two very long, fun fact during promotion for the nineteen ninety eight film, bride of Chucky. Chucky appeared on the Jumbotron during episode of world championship wrestling's Monday night, nitro to threaten wrestler, Rick Steiner. This lead TV announcer. Tony shivani to ask one of the stupidest questions in the history of television. Wondering what role the fictional character Chucky would play and Rick Steiner upcoming pay per view match to anyone over the age of five. The obvious answer was zero and that is Chucky. I remember that. And the funniest thing on your thinking in that was Rick Steiner actually engaging Ziya, log wouldn't shocking, pre recorded Chucky for your current Chucky and saying junkie, if you come June when he's no nothing's happening because, as a wrestling fan, and professional wrestler myself that is one of the most embarrassing moments of my entire life cringe-worthy for other people not to me, but for the spirit of wrestling, and we try to keep it real to appoint, but when you have a character arguing with a fictional doll, and then the announcer wondering if the dull was suddenly going to come into real life in attack him during the match. I very, very upset. That's not the first precedent for WCW doing that RoboCop, RoboCop having sting from the case in the cage. Yeah. And stink. Going like yeah. What are you going to do with rubble? It's again, one of the WCW did a lot of very upsetting things back in the ninety when that character the shocker the shot. I call him the shock the shock Massar fell down. Yeah. That when that's not your most embarrassing thing. That's like fifth on the list of most embarrassing cringe-worthy WCW moments is I like where this episode's going all ready. You can say they got bought up other competitor. Yes. A I hear the details for Tyrian Lancaster. Now, Carolina's shares, a character, of course, created by George r r Martin appeared in the series of fantasy novels known as a song of ice and fire, the television version of Tyrian, which we all know and love first appeared in episode one of the game of thrones series titled winter is coming now Tyrian is the youngest son of Lord, Taiwan, Lancaster, the richest man in the seven kingdoms his mother Joanna died giving birth to Tyrian for which is bothering sister. She never forgave him being born a door of Tyrian has been underestimated as well as ridiculed and disrespected his entire life by both as immediate family, and most people, whom he encountered lacking, beauty or brother Jimmy's player with a sword grass from childhood. He could survive only by sharpening his intellect through guile strategy and being quite possibly, the most clever person in all of the seven kingdoms cheering escape death. Anytime at she powerful political positions and somehow survived the entirety of the game of thrones Sega years. Interesting fact. But Jerry in Lancaster. Did you know that he was written in the novels anyway? As an accomplished acrobat. It's true and aspect of Tyrian that's pretty much omitted entirely from his portrayal in the HBO series. Is that he actually knows how to do performance acrobatics? In fact, in his first meeting with John, snow and game of thrones. The book not the show, Terry and actually introduces himself by doing a flip off the top of a roof and landing in front of John, that kind of would have changed everything ever if he was in the series right at the acrobats when the series. And now you have the facts on both opponents Joseph. Do you have any questions before we get started? Okay. Wait. So you're only going off the TV series, correct, sir. Okay. That's on. That's my only question. Excellent question. Beautiful actually question Ray. Please proceed with your first point. My first point is just to bring up a couple of aspects of Chucky that I want to highlight one his general strength, given his diminutive size, and to his, absolutely psychotic nature. Let's begin by talking about the psychotic. Nature. Now Chucky is a psycho killer, Charles Lee Ray is the is a strangler, he murdered a whole bunch of people. So he has absolutely no compunctions about killing one thing. I know about Terry Lancaster is he has killed in the show a few times, generally speaking, he has major compunctions against it Tyrian as a character will often find any reason to not kill and come up with a way to talk his way out of a situation before. Eventually resorting to violence. Chucky does not do that Chucky goes straight for the straight for the hard parts to the, the meat of the bone every single chance that he can get. So when it comes down to actual acts of violence, that are going to happen Tyrian will feel bad, about taking a life, but Chucky will revel in it in the case of a one on one combat. Encounter. I think that psychotic nece and the ability to go, far and beyond levels of violence in the other person could even be conceptualizing. Absolutely will work in the favour of Chucky. To point out now. He's got his spirit trapped inside the body of this doll, which on the surface. It is a smaller. Dull it is, actually, I would say, maybe touch smaller than even Tyrian Lancaster. So he is actually going to be the, he's gonna be the underdog in this fight against Terry Lancaster, which is not always a place that Tyrian will find himself fighting from so one Tyrian, who's used to fighting a certain way from from behind will actually be the favourite in this match. When you first take a look at it. He's not used to that position. He might not know exactly what to do with that advantage. Secondarily Shuki is shockingly, strong. He has got acts of, of raw violence seated he's movies and a few of these, I'm going to bring to your attention right now. At one point, he cripples a teacher in a classroom, and then pulls out a yardstick. Now, we know yardsticks tend to break yardsticks, if you ever had the nuns in Catholic school or you're aware of that they will wrap your hands with them, repeatedly, and it will hurt a lot Chuckie beats this woman to death with a yardstick without break. Which just shows a certain amount of strength. But also psychosis is well, because he just keeps hitting her until she don't move. No more. Additionally. He's got a he's taken it an axe. And he's actually punctured a hole in a door and then put his face through in one of my favorite child. Maybe my favorite child's play Bowman ever he crushes into the door sticks. His face in, like Jack Nicholson from the shining and says, I can't think of anything to say right now. Bad job me in so many words, it's a great moment, but he's actually he's shown the ability to use an ax to actually shattered down a door if he needs to additionally, he's taken a straight razor to a barber, who was cutting military hair and in one shot Steve's been able to cut the men's throat right away. Very very quickly. He's deceptively fast given given what you would expect from him. So new one shot, he's been able to straight razor, this military, Barbara. So he was a soldier and he was able to kill him with that straight razor or right away a couple other feats. He strangled man to death with jumper cables. I mean, the fact that he is a two foot doll who's over. Powering grown adults means a lot to me in this battle, I believe when it comes to strength. He has strength beats that will exceed the things that Tyrian Lancaster has done, even though he's coming from behind finally, he wants took a hatchet and knocked off a man's, jaw clean off these like when he gets the moment. And he has that moment of violence. He's one of those guys who holds back and holds back. Then when, when it's the moment he's like a trap door spider. They act all innocence. Oh you can't I I would never hurt you. It's time for the stabbing dude gets to stab stabbing. And it hurts said he takes that person down one time after another. So and one thing that, I think both of these characters would have working towards them that will negative each other in this battle is the ability to not be taken. Seriously as a threat until it is too late. And both of them, I'm sure have great examples and I know this respect. I'm sure have examples of them taking that underestimation and running it to the moon and killing their target. That is my point. Number one here here's the thing. I actually think I read this that Chucky has the strength of. An adult male. Yes. Which it actually kind of impressive. Because he's, you know, this kid's toy you know that's about two three feet tall. So that's that is pretty. I'd say says pretty cool. You know, it's funny Chucky has red hair has, you know, some weird mental issues and kind of over exaggerates like hand motions and things that they're great and half psychosis. I'm just saying Joseph, if you take a look to your right, okay. Describe that character named rates me right now. He's. Yeah. I see. Ray is a shockingly handsome man. I've already shocking in that you would say handsome, or both shockingly, handsome, and handsomely, shocking. But yes, red hair Chucky had a beard, man. I'll bet ask other crazy, right? Yeah. I mean shock he's got good race. Got good arguments for what he says, in the show, raise handsome like the way you described, like a woman from northern Ontario from where I'm from, that's a very handsome woman right there. So I, I'd give that to them I give that to. All right. I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, really because these are great points. They're, they're okay points. I've heard better in my allowed to please. Yes. You need to because it was perfect. But if you want to ruin it. That's when you said, Cecchi, strangled, a man with jumper cable, jumper cables, I believe, that's in child, the first child play when he doesn't actually kill him, but he strangles him. And he's able to overpower him with the junk cables, and effectively eliminate him as a threat. Well, that cop survives, I believe. Yeah. Go on. So he you, you said he strangled him to death. I might have added the two. We should say great technical raise name. It's fake news. Okay. For middle name. That accident because I was in the moment. So I will. Listeners at home. Karma passionate. Also, to your point, though. What really happens break. It was it was a trained officer of the law, which actually would get me a little more credence. I would believe, but what that does bring to mind is that Cecchi was able to take a butcher knife through an entire car like a tire, like a driver's seat of a car. His grandma's impale and cash straight that, man. What you remember? That was a while. It was from a young boy trying void the, the, the mutilation of those areas when possible battle. But yes that is a thing. Okay. But I just wanted to make sure you said he strangled him to death. You know what I deserve correction there? And I thank you for it. Okay. You should deduct some points. All right. You don't have to I good call. Joseph by. All right. So let's go on my point, number one. If I may. Okay. I think you're gonna like this. I call this one Tyrian Lancaster kicks ass. Just that's just my point. So I get that he was overlooked as a little personally game of thrones. You know, all the realms kingdoms just as I'm sure a little person would have been, you know, had a really rough go during actual medieval times, I get it. But did some checking guess what I found out how many people deteriorate Lancaster kill onscreen like that you actually saw. Have three or four off the top of my head. Right. So I saw at least five that we see. And no, I'm not including that time. He accidentally gave poison wine to Joffe. I'm not counting at all. Yeah. By the way, is also suggest that he killed more people offscreen during battles. He's already involved with, like the battle of blackwater, when or what have you, plus, how many undid creatures to destroy in the crypt like the white walkers, where he was put in charge of looking after all, like noncombatants and during the attack the white white look. I mean he maybe one or two at that point. But I mean he actually took him on right with, like does look after my like that's a bad ass thing to do. See what people are saying is at Tyrian is actually a very capable fighter despite the fact that he suggested to have little combat training during the attempted abduction of Caitlyn stark. I think this was like in season, one Tyrian killed one of the would be attackers by grabbing a somewhat improvise weapon. But it was it was a shield it wasn't used meant it was meant as a defensive thing, but he grabbed the shield he knocked attacked her to the grandmas smashing in the head. And when he tired pulsa ground then smashes in the person's Ed by taking the edge that she. And just kind of completely ram it in over and over until the guy's dead. He did that with his hands tied. You know what I mean? Like this is not. This is not a regular. He's a hands are tied. And you actually saved Caitlyn stark by with the show. It's insane in the battle blackwater were Tyrian was actually leading troops. He killed what looked like a commander of the opposing army by firstly chopping off one of his legs with an axe, and as the guy falls, he takes the action repeatedly just like three wack. Wack Bom and takes the guy out. He looks like a commanding officer, and then he's like follow me and then all his troops. I got pumped up and follow him in a battle yet rarely he chopped off the person's leg Ray. While that person was wearing armor Ray. I mean, that's how strong Terry Lancaster is, you know. Yeah, gray. And again, that sounds really bad ass to me, who are Chuck is typical victims are the types who chop people's legs who command troops, during insane battles, or who kill attackers with improvise weapons, while their hands are tied. Absolutely not. They are schoolteachers, or unsuspecting parents or absolute non. Fighters. Most of the time, and are any of Chuck, is intended victims, capable of the savagery the beat downs and the ruthlessness when required by Tyrian Lancer. Absolutely not. And as pointed out later, we'll get. I make it as well. Let him finish his point. We'll cross all these arguments in just a second outrage to that's fair doesn't take much, though, as Chuckie doesn't farewell against people with less than half of Tyrian Lancaster's battery. That's my point. Number one. Oh, go ahead and dismantle that point piece by piece. So you said that Chucky hasn't killed anyone of kind of a kind of combat experience. So I'm saying, like in when Chuck, I'm saying, Chuck, he's typical opponent difficult Joseph because I know exactly where you're going, and I agree because I'm about to say it. If you don't go ahead, you say like commit like when he's in the middle of a battle, and people are wearing armor and are armed with medieval weapons, and he's in the middle, and it's a Malay time. Would you say perhaps Chucky record-breaking havoc and killing a bunch of people on a military base? Maybe we'd be an anti thing to your point of their facing. Okay. So are they armed and facing off against chocolate? Like, are they coming at armed? He made sure all the bullets were real. It check. He's been shot quite a few times. But I'm talking about talking about shot right now that I don't disagree with rim saying is, who does he like to go after typically typically I think he goes after who's closest to him who's ever the threat whoever whoever's a threat. So I think. I wouldn't per se use that against Chucky because he doesn't him, he's not going to go run up against a bunch of UFC five out of, he's not, they're not a threat at the moment. Then let me just as part of just this rebuttal. If I may just really quick to if I may take the baton for a moment he's cut you off just a big jerk is, you're talking about, you know, who is Chuck fought as if Chucky only praise on babysitters and old ladies. When the reality is in one of the entire the most of that entire movie takes place, because his expected target goes to military school, and he had some going to this military training base. And in Rex all kinds of havoc making sure although he, he replaces all the, the dummy bullets would live fire munitions, so they will shoot each other because he's very tricky. We'll get into that in my point number two. But I would say he's attacking trained soldiers and trained a military personnel. I think that actually works against your point. I'm sorry. You didn't know about this. You'll lose James, I'm sorry. So we're saying in a chance. Encounter where neither one was expecting to run into the other person Tyrian Lancaster would represent like because again, it's underplayed material answer is an absolute bad ass when he needs to be. That's what I'm saying is that that's not the typical opponent that Chucky would run into possibly. All right. He, he runs the gamut recognize what you're saying. I knowledge it all. Oh, good. I was gonna say chuckling has killed multiple police officers in Chicago in the time before social media, when they were probably worse up police officers. Yeah. So you could kind of say Chucky is also gonna begin psychos. No, no disrespect to police officers, I thank you for your service, please do not pull me over. Absolutely. I would say actually, if I may just even to even I'm gonna give James a little bit of credit here, because I'm Terry and Lancaster is such an impressive character of all the battles that we've done up to this point. This is one that I walk in the door buried very nervous about because Tyrian Lancaster is one of those characters that when you sort of just look at him. And you think about him and he's the guy who gets drunk, you know, and he's just you don't think much of him, but then when you actually start to break down like I did. And I know like you did some of the feats he's done and some of the things he's put together disguise rough man. This is this is a this is one of the toughest battles. I think we're going to have. I think from my side, especially Tyrian Lancaster is is. Is awesome. He is awesome. And, and. To a lot of your points. Yes, he did a lot of those things. And I hope I have some point number two to counteract it because that is very, very good stuff. All right. Well, then hit us with point, number two point number two, we're going to deal with a little bit of Chuck durability, and his trickiness. That's really where I want to live right now. Because to your point earlier took he's been shot a lot of times Chucky is a supernatural being at the end of the day, Tyrian Lancaster, must stay in the realm of reality. Whereas Chucky can actually go to a non reality because he is essentially made of magic vote. Do magic. He's very, very durable. Here's been shot repeatedly. Here's been thrown repeatedly. He has he has had his a couple of examples right here. There's one point where he gets his arm cut off from his body. So if Terry Lancaster lands, one of those sort hits and cuts off Chuck arm. Chuck arm was able to act independently of Chucky, somehow, Tyrians got two things to worry about instead of one in the world. He's in and he's dealt with the white walkers before this might not be completely. Out of place. Still difficult though. I would say at one point he had his head completely removed along with one of his arms and his legs. And he continued to keep fighting he does not need his head, which is what I assumed Tyrian would maybe go for I given the proportions between them. He gets his head removed. Tyrian thinks he's won. The battle Chuckie knife, some of the jugular right there and takes them out for the battle, because Tyrian as clever as he is would definitely not see that coming. He's also been burned took his been burned almost to nothingness and continue to fight with just a black index terrier Hugh, to your point. He's been shot a lot. He's had half of his face sliced off by a side and was able to keep on fighting. His durability is not in question. I would argue with both of them take a similar amount of punishment. Chuck is going to win this battle ten times out of ten Tyrian is not going to he's getting his face cut and that was very very he got hit real hard in that shot to be fair. He did go down for the rest of the battle when that happened. Chucky taking a similar shot laughs, it off and continues on. So I think the durability. Here is massively in the favor of the killer doll finally the trickiness Tyrian, very, very clever, I would argue that as the series progressed, and I don't even think this is necessarily, but arguable Tyrian got considerably less clever, as every single season of the show past, if we're gonna talk about here, and we need to talk about the entirety of Tyrian and in seasons one through five, George Martin parts. Smartest man in the room. We'll think his way out of every situation season, six through eight we got a poke a little bit of holes in this veneer because he made constant tactical errors constant mistakes, trusted the wrong people to do the wrong things at the wrong times. And if it wasn't for a little luck, let's be quite Frank. He would have found himself dead at any one of a number of points during the season and probably should have been dead. And we have to hold that against him. Whereas Chucky on the other hand is a guy who will he will use anything his disposal to do. He's created gas leaks, which is then caused explosions when he when he kinda manipulated the situation, he's used a bag of marbles to throw on the ground when he. Is being pursued? So as pursuers would trip and fall. I mean he's using home alone tactics. And I think at its core the scrappy fighter who's gonna use everything at his disposal is going to defeat the guy who's going to take the fight a little more up front, ten times out of ten I think the scrappy or clever fighter will get that done. That is my point. Number two. Yeah. I say something to that. Yes, please. I think those were incredible points. Thank you, the durability of Chucky. That's I really I gotta agree with that. But in interiors defense, and I know I don't have to defend them here. But go ahead. He's as my favorite character in. Yeah. I think this could be a stretch. I could be reaching like Michael Jordan Space Jam here. I think that he was so clever. He happened to Allred understand that Denise shouldn't be the Queen. So he started to sabotage her interesting. And he also kind of started playing the fool so that people would understand man that much more throughout the later seasons. I think I agree with that a lot. I would just say, though, that it does whether we have to then read intention, into his actions that does not discount the actions themselves. Okay. I, I just, I don't know that I would go against his intellect because of how smart he was in the first five seasons. I think that he's smart enough to play dumb. It knew very well might be right. But it definitely needs to be put on the record. Well, here's the later seasons, right? He had to he had to gamble. So he had to gamble with you know when veneers. Veneers was his name the ball headed. Lord, Lord bears when he had to turn him in. It was a gamble. That was he was in for the last three seasons, especially when he was involved with what's her name Khalil's star, Gary Don deniro's? Right. He had to constantly do the math and gamble every time he said, okay. If I say this to her, here's what happens if I say this. Here's what happens, by the way. I'm not just weighing in whether or not a friend or a city gets destroyed or someone gets killed. I'm also in play here to the very fact that he ends up at the end of the episode. The hand of the king is a well played match where he gambled, the right way continuously. So I don't think it was luck when luck involved know and this is the thing like in, in fighting right? And got the comment's worse background. You know, there's, there's certain fighters who pull out weird winds and you're like, no way the math, I should've have you lose and that was lucky fight and. Then they went another lucky fight, then they went another lucky fight. And after a while you like you can't be that lucky that often that. Yeah, that's kind of how I see Tyrians might appear like one odds might appear luck purely lucky. But overall, he's got I don't know the tracker, you're gonna speaks for itself. So let me get to my point number two. This okay. I call this at, let's got revisited. I just call it Ron television, so perfect timing. So to say the cheering Lancaster is extremely intelligent would be a monster understatement to intelligence, right? He's an accomplished battlefield commander to such an extent, by the way, that his father, widely regarded as one of the best commanders in. I think it's a west rose acknowledges him for it begrudgingly, right? He doesn't really liked hearing. He has personally led troops during the battle of blackwater, and his intelligent politically astute enough to have served like as a chief advisor to two separate monarchs God, a king hand of the king hand of the Queen whereas intelligence, cutting really stand out, is when we see him easily manipulate and trick just like raising others time after time. So let's go back and season to in order to discover who is leaking. Formation to Queen or two before she became the ultimate wing cherry, and told Bayless embarrass that mersal. I guess there's his daughter would be married away to different houses. So Tyrian told Pacelle should marry into house Martell. Terry, until VERA, she would marry into the iron born tearing told Bela she should marry into the veil and the end. Russillo, was married in house Martell, and pie sell turned out to be the leak. This is master manipulation on a master level, and he's manipulating people who are also masters of manipulation. Does this is crazy? I had to rewatch the scene probably eight times because I got confused by the names, I just really started getting into. But then when I finally figured out what we what was being written. What was being said? I'm like, oh my God. This is incredible really savaging this character as the ultimate manipulator, right? And he did it for the cause of good. Which is cool. So how does this intelligence gets an opponent like Chucky? Right. Because that's figure out. He plays it. Well, again, Chuck, he's a killer. I get it. But he's not the smartest killer. He's creative. He's clever. He's also got a one track mind, which means one hundred percent of his focus is. On murdering his targets and not thinking a few steps ahead to keep himself out of danger or to keep themselves safe while doing so, so example, I think it's during child's play to chug. It was supplying his murders rage that he easily, you know, he kinda got lit up this conveyor belt kind of thing that was going on. He was after this kid, and I guess his young woman who was looking after him. And he's coming after he's got a knife in his hand and the element kind of somehow closes the metal door on Turkey's arm and Chucky is so focused on his murderous, rage, which speaks with durability. He rips off the arm. So it's still pin. Now he's gonna stub and use his other hand to grab the knife. And then he does some local stuff after that. But I mean that just reveals his intent whereas most you'll be like okay, like, oh, the knife me. Get my arm out of here. Let me you this is it. No. I'm just tear this out to my own detriment, because I don't care. What happens in the future? And I know that was part of the storyline, but it was very revealing in the equally celebrated, and I'm using this term orderly. Iconic film masterpiece known as bride of Chucky. I love it, right. Like father had seen in that pantheon. Yeah. You know, a number of Meryl Streep homes, and then a brighter Chucky right there, you're done. You've seen all the top ten you. You don't have to remove ever again. So now both Chucky and his bride. Tiffany mate, your to, I can't believe I actually was watching this on you to get into a major domestic dispute while holding another couple hostage in an RV, otherwise known as race. It gains his dream home. And someday. I'll my house will have wheels, someday boyfriend, the boyfriend tells Chuckie that his wife should be cleaning up the dishes. I mean, this is a deep stuff, just as deep as the game of thrones narrow, I talked about the relation okay. So the boyfriend tells Chuckie that Chuck, his wife, Tiffany should be clamped additions dishes, while Chuck wife, Tiffany's being told by the girlfriend that she is being under appreciated by Chucky and with many other domestic disputes, that take place in RV's shots are fired which led to the hostages given the opportunity to escape. This is not so settlement aviation and trickery, or there's not so Mickley trickery was done to Chucky by two teenagers who weren't exactly like Rhodes scholars here. Right. Okay. So if they can manipulate and trick Chucky. What do you think here in Lancaster possibly the most clever person ever live in the seven kingdoms would do them? And I think this is really how he would fight. I mean because look chunky super durable, he can take on a punishment. He's got some frailties do, don't be wrong. He can't just take unlimited punishment, but can take way more than the regular human being. And I think you're right. This could be like all of a sudden tears, like, oh, damn this thing is really really you'll durable. That's when he's going to say, okay, how do I figure it out because he's a great thinker on the spot, and he's going to say remember, what that saying for the Lancers Atlanta, you're always pays their debt? He's going to call that into place. A hey, you know what? I know what you're after before you kill me. I know what you want, and I know where you can get it. Let me take you there and I'll get it. You can do whatever you want to be in chocolate. He's has at one track minds like, oh, okay. Whatever that is. I'm convinced he can figure that. Out at that moment, that's where I kind of see a huge advantage for Tyrian Lancaster before you ask your questions. I got a few rebuttals, and then please fill in any gaps that I will have. I he is. I would argue that it's not even arguable Tyrian Lancaster is a smarter character than Chucky. The killer doll does it. How do you feel saying that statement by feels real good, weirdly enough? I can't express why but it does put in the context of a one v. One battle. Now Chucky, absolutely got manipulated when whenever he's around Jennifer tilly's character. Yes. Things tend to go poorly. They have a very poor relationship, and they can against that weddings. Well planned out not. I mean he was the well he's the one who did it to himself. He's the one who put her spirit in the doll be companion, so bad job Chucky. But that being said she is not in play here. Any of these other factors are outside interference. I if there were other people, and there were other situations and scenarios at play, I think tearing would have a chance to manipulate people into do that kind of thing I would say. Chuck drive is single minded focus, I think in, in the overall context would work against him in this context completely works to his favor. The fact that you brought on the table, the fact he was able to rip his own arm off to continue the battle without even giving it a second thought completely works in Chucky favor, as far as this goes, and I would believe that Tyrian would try to use to use Chucky to think to himself like, oh, this guy's a monster. This guy's a menace. He's very durable. How can I use this to benefit my own goals? And I think that you think that's a positive. I see that as a wild negative because the second you try to manipulate Chucky. And think the second Chucky lets you think that you have control of the situation that's typically, when it stabbing time as soon as you think that you as soon as Chucky will play along with it, perhaps. He'll be like that's interesting. I am listening. Oh, yes, yes, yes, in the second the Tyrian turns to open the door takes out his achilles with a knife or something to that effect. I think you're I see your point. I think you're underestimating, you know, who Tyrians had to manipulate and trick. To survive. He said to manipulate them in a political environment, though. This is a battle environment that I don't think that the same abilities are going to help him in this. How did he survive, like battles where he's in there, and he's, you know, in the mix of things there's two main battles that I can think of, and there's the battle of blackwater spoke before, which is the battle, he got disfigured in and left for dead on the battlefield. So he didn't. I mean, yes, he did some good feats to open that battle up. But he did get men to lead him which does not come into play here. But that's also the battle that he got his butt handed to him because he really at the end of the day when fighting an army is not the guy, you certainly want to your frontline fighting an army, you want him planning the assault. Now, I agree with that. There's another occasion, where a dragon had to come in and save and actually scooped up deniro's and flew off with her. It was in that arena kind of setting I forget, which episode was season five or six or something like that. And he had to, like, I forget, who that person was a former slave, but now a confidante to deniro I think she she's got her head chopped off in the last second last episode missile. Andy, there you go. So he had to protect her because she was about to get killed. So he had to take out people there, too. He is the one who was like on the fly figuring. Okay. Where's the best place? We need to be. Here's what we're going to go. Here's over here. He's also a great tactical battlefield or in the midst of battle planner and think, and that's the thing he's the mastermind who can definitely give you a battle plan that will work to success. Does that necessarily transfer to help them in a one in one encounter? I would say not enough is the answer. They like I say, I have great respect for his military mind. It's just it's apples and oranges. These are two very different situation was talking about him in the midst of the fight. He had to take out someone he had to save this person. He had to figure out where we going here. Sure, you know, that's against a huge force of people who are now turning on them. In the was it the sullied and the whole thing. So. He's a great number of things. I just in this particular scenario against a single minded focus guy who can't really be. I would say Terry and trying to control him. I really do. And I don't think Chuck, he's gonna let him do that. Although he might give him the veneer of doing it. I think Chucky might absolutely make think it's going away. And then absolutely not. Have a good guy driving an RV. Chucky to a point where he didn't flip and check. You went flying out. There was a loved one in the room with him. We've all been there with our significant other in front of other people and had moments of regrettable raise sayings, that he's been manipulated by teenage boy, while he's been outside by someone while in an RV using James. Yes. I know. All right. Before we do Joseph. Do you have any anything else to say about a turning point? Well before that he does have a question that I interrupted because I'm a big jerk. So we're giving we're giving Tyrian. We're not giving him the ability to manipulate others around him to defend. There's no, there's no on wanting currently went on. Okay. That's all I need to know if there were other people around Tyrian could literally turn to the humans and say, look a monster doll, and then those guys, but that's outside interference. That would not be good for this. Yes. In that type of situation. Yes. Tyrian. Absolutely gets it done. But that's not where we are. So now we're what's called the turning point, which means you're going to tell us who you think is a head in this battle, and what the other person has to do to pull out the victory. Right right now. This is such a tough battle. It really doesn't making both incredible points. I sure am Chuck durability. That speaks volumes right now Tyrian being a master manipulator. I love it. But Chuck, he's also he's not. He's not dumb. I think anyone that, that can one memorize an insane voodoo spell that will allow him to transfer sold his soul into Seoul, raving. He does that all the time. Okay. Got try that. That's, that's the body chosen by the way, the body chose to go in and happen. This temple. I know it was expensive. Up in your mouth and right now a little bit Joseph, you, okay? Let me just. Recalibrate. Okay, Chuck, he's murderous rage. I think does go against him at times. However, I think that also is an advantage. When Tyrian is going to try and manipulate them that murderous rage is going to almost not allow them to hear. I think a part of Tyrians charm and alert and his strength is a silver tongue and he's not listening at all. He's trying to kill is not going to skinny kind of screw things up Tyrians abilities survive. That's the thing that like, really, really, really that gets me. It's, it's tough. It's tough even thinking of him losing because he survived. So right now right now, I've got the advantage going to Chucky. Okay. Right now, I'm glad to hear that I, I agree with you one thousand percent just for the record you making great decisions. I hope that continues, hold on. Ray. James, would you have to do to convince me as I'm going to need? I'm gonna need to know. How Tyrian survives because I don't think I personally, I'm not going to going to reveal this. I think there's one way Tyrian wins this, I've needed to hit that point for me. He's got his vibe. And you need to you need to tell me survive. Great, great minds think alike. I need you to leave. I would say just keep doing what I'm doing because well. Well, you need him to what shower right hubris will. Let's see how it serves you sir serves junkie. Well, hopefully it serves me. Well, today, I'm ready for my point, number three point. Number three is talking about that voodoo that Chucky do so. Well, these two combatants and on paper as far as like tale of the tape would go Chucky has the advantage physically over Tyrian Lancaster Tyrian has the advantage, mentally over Chucky. But I think the physical advantage is much more of a difference than the mental advantages between the two because to your point, Chuck, he's not a dumb guy. He is also a survivor. He was able to. And this is two point my whole point. He's able to use magic powers. He is a mystic art of do he knew that he was had been shot by police. He knew that he was dying and had the wherewithal in his dying moments to be a survivor to your point about Tyrian heat is also a survivor. He was able to transfer his soul into the body of a doll, which is not like a normal thing. There is magic in the game of thrones universe. And there are white walkers and red mist monsters and fire magic and all that. Good stuff. Tyrian is not part of that world. He is part of that realm. He is strictly in the realm of human Chucky has magic powers to boost his already impressive combat abilities. So a couple of examples of this transferring soul into the dole in the first place. He was able to use a voodoo doll in another movie. There was a man that he wanted to kill, and he wanted to torture, and he wanted it to be very bad because he's a psycho. So he actually used his voodoo magic to create a doll of that person and stabbed. The dull repeatedly thus killing the man. This is a power that tyranny. Lancaster is not going to have an answer for whatsoever when it comes to using some of this do magic. I haven't seen him repel, magical attacks very well. He's also been able to split his soul. And this is a very excellent point. He was been able to split his soul into multiple hosts at the same time who those multi. Well hosts have been able to split their souls into multiple hosts going on and on and on. So if there is any sort of inanimate objects if there's any sort of other people around if they happen to find him he could then use whatever is in his area. He could put his soul into the spirits of everything around him in the room and have those things spring to life and attack Tyrian Lancaster from all directions at all times. So even if Tyrian lands huge shot on Chucky cuts him in half for stuff, we know that won't kill him. Second he's got the two abilities to reanimate himself in the body of something else. Whatever that looks like and continue, the fight Tyrian has a limited amount of endurance as far as goes chunky can keep going all day. Using the magical abilities. And finally, the last thing you can do in, in this. I think is also pretty big deal. He can transfer his soul into the body of another. So if for some reason he's able to knock Tyrian down, he can use his voodoo magic to put his spirit inside the body of Tyrian Lancaster thus kicking Terry and. Lancaster out and winning the fight because Tyrian soul will be gone. That is my point number three. Three points survival points. Absolutely. Are we going quick question? Are we going only by cannon from the first film of what's been told that Checky can do all of it, all of all of the engaging, that's the same character throughout? So we're going to go with it. Okay. Because he's been able to do a lot of different voodoo magic as the series progressed he has. And I wanna lean on that because I think as a magical being that puts him a huge leg up on a human being was he able to just transfer his soul to someone else. And he thought it was supposed to be the first person he revealed himself. He, he is tried multiple times with multiple people throughout the child's play movies, and generally, what's up. It hasn't worked. Well, the problem is he keeps getting interrupted by other people may problem that will not happen in a one on one. Encounter. Give me the power. I beg of you. Here's the thing, even if he does transfer like what's it's, it's Tyrian and Chucky. There's no one else there. Right. So who's he transferred any and by the way, when we when we did venom versus hell boy, how did we say, would work if then them, who's possessing Eddie Brock, venom, then possessed hell boy, does that mean then if any real nebulous real quick got real weird. The point came to be that if he took over hell boy for any length of time and Eddie Brock was taken out of that battle that help boy was gonna win that fight. That is what we agreed to in the moment. Okay. So I've got a question is there has it ever been stated because I'm not quite sure if this if Chucky takes over your body does that soul, then completely diminish, or, or is it like a trap, like, is it a whole Bruce banner type it in my mind the way in, I'm not even thinking that this is going to be necessarily the way he defeats in Lancaster. I think it's going to be stabbing. I really do. I think it's going to be stabbed from putting his, his soul in the host of a lot of other objects around him and attacking him on mass. If, if he can't just overpower immer trick him into submission to begin with. If for example, he was, too. I it's really nebulous, if he was to take over the soul of Tyrian Lancaster, it's not one hundred percent with the soul is trapped inside forever. Or if it just disappears in his pooped out of reality, but, I would I would I would just say, if he took over, Terry Lancers body and walked away, leaving the Chucky empty husky but Chucky doll behind that's kind of a victory, he has won the day. And I think you could safely say he achieved victory in those in those conditions. Not sure agree with that, but I can't bring a lot to disagree with that. And it's like it's, it's real nebula said, I'm not gonna lean on that, too heavily that to be known as a thing that's out there, not exactly where I think this fight is going to be won or lost. Okay. So example of power more than these specifics takes place in like the chamber room of Tyrian Lancaster, or in the game of thrones like root realm in a room somewhere in that say, low tech environment, the higher ticket goes, the more. I think and this is up to the judge determine where it takes place. But definitely the more elect, because Chucky knows about this stuff to make it a little more fair. We generally in the course of these battles Damian, Wayne versus Arya stark for example, same kind of deal. We dumbed down the environment. A little bit to make it a little bit more fair both sides because if there's if there's a an Uzi, only one of them's really going to know how to use the jozy carrying. All right. So here we go. Let me go kind of counter all this with my point number three. I think you're gonna like this one a lot. It was called before even knew that. You said what you said about the turning point. It's called survivability. Okay. So how many times? Chunky been killed and slash ordered destroyed a handful. But I mean it's never enough to keep him down. It's been six times one of his movies. Yeah. That's a handful. I, I didn't know you could put a combination of six debts in your hand. That's how he thinks that small. That's that's weird that he thinks like that. So let's see Chuck. He's been shot in the head dispatch that way he's had his head inflated until exploded. My personal favorite sliced to pieces by the propellers of a fan. He was shot again. He was then hacked to pieces by an axe, a Jerry Linenger kind does that separately. Well, and then he had his head literally stopped in something that during lent. Nassar also can do to as done to someone with a shield and who killed him. Right. It was a very you know, various people who took him out with heavy. But the fact is he died. You know, it was dispatched six times, according to who would win battle, if you can walk away safely for two two minutes about the person getting up you win, so six times according to what he's been dispatched. So again, check his whole thing, I really think he likes to catch people by surprise when he's. More or less ready for the encounter. But his intended victim is not. And I'm not saying that's the whole every way, but I'm just saying that's his favorite. That's his MO. That's what how he preferred to be and each time he gets killed. He's typically facing off against someone who's, you know, sometimes ready to fight back. Sometimes not. And here's the deal. How would let me say, how Chucky do if he were somehow in westernise boy, that's hard to say, I, I think he would definitely do a lot of murder, and he would he would. Let's do this. Let's replace here in Lancaster. With Chucky Alabama Chucky isn't surviving season. One, I I'm telling you, I don't think he would be I do. Here's can. I just real quick. I think he survived season one because the terrible people all survive season one. I don't think he's season. Four somewhere down the road. It we'll catch up with him like it did every other terrible. Ramsay Bolton and King Jaafar and season, one though, remember, like he had to have that I forget that night's name who survived the whole series, who Brown. Yeah. Ron, there's only Chuck. Like, hey, let me tell you why you should fight for me or whatever, you know, he's bulleting. Would have survived the war of the five kings about blackwater being framed for king Joppy's, murder, the invasion of west rose in the attack by the white walkers, a castle winter fell, I guess he not a chance, not a chance and Elsie. Terry Lancaster has something some quality that surpasses physical strength weapons weapons mastery political power, and even magic he has something that even dragons, and like two or three dragons, and the white Walker master the super powerful. I think he was called the Nike and didn't have. It's the ability to survive interior. It doesn't just survive. He typically somehow ends up in a good position after surviving, something that should have absolutely destroyed him. But couldn't not didn't couldn't cheering has that same weird characteristic, that the joker has in a weird way, that Norman Osborn has that Batman has he survived things that destroy everything, and everyone else would somehow can't take him out. Call it the fates call. It some whatever it is, you know, maybe the God's intervention when I have no idea, but it just nothing is taking him out. He can get hurt but he's not being take. In out in six movies Chucky has been taken out six freakin times right in eight seasons on one of the bloodiest shows possibly ever made where everyone is significance died all the time. Terry, Lance are always found a way to survive in the end nothing. No creature no personal supernatural, being no army could somehow kill him. Think about that per second. Right. That doesn't make him like the ultimate rival again. He's the ultimate one of the bad asses. And how does he end up? You don't hand of the king. Right. This is crazy. How does Tyrian uses survive sort of, you know, let's talk about how does he uses survivability to win this fight? Well, again, I use it before I talk about psychology. Right. So Tyrian matches the violence that physicality and the fighting savagery and the conning that's needed for the moment he taps into it. Okay. When he killed the commander, I mentioned that before on the battlefield he uses insane savagery. He just runs up to the guy chops off his leg and then chops them in the bind till with an so he's dead. And just all right. Follow me man. You know that was cold. Calculating. He was a monster. He was absolutely psychotic. I mean he was almost like smiling when he kills his father with a crossbow he did it in a cold manner. Just like, yeah, no, we're done phone when he strangled I think it was his name, his romantic interest with, like just a scarf. Yeah, it was rough, it was right. He was crying while doing so because he was he did we had to physically to match, but just to see how the emotional content survivability and the tactics when it's time for him to be a monster. He's a monster when time going to be a psychopath done when time for him to be the hero. He's good to go. So he'll actually use that. The reason why survives because he matches what he needs for the moment. Right. And he understands how to play. He's that smart. So final point with Terry Lancers bad Asri is insane and ability to manipulate people, which I still think is a big thing. Chucky specific susceptibility to be manipulated and having ability to survive the gore and bloodshed of eight frequencies of games of game of thrones. I just don't see a way the terrier Lancaster loses to Chucky and that's my point number three. And that's a lot of goodness that you said, right there. Look, I am. I am not here to disparage, Tyrian Lancaster. This is a fantastic character. I just happen to believe in this particular case in this particular battle. He just doesn't quite have enough to win the day against a killer voodoo doll questions. I have when he attacked Taiwian his father with the crossbow, did he did. He meet him in a field of battle stand toe to toe and heavy fight with him or did he catch him on the toilet unawares? He pulled a Chucky and waited until the person was in a horrible position. And then use cold calculating non like, barely emotional registry to take them out. And this to my point, you brought that up that Chucky does those things as a negative. And yet, when you brought up that example you left out the fact that he did the exact same tactic himself. That's what I'm saying. He can match that savagery that, that killing whatever you wanna call it that, that, that instinct when the, when the when the moment declares for it to be necessary. And I would also point out, you say he survived eight seasons of game of thrones. That is one hundred percent. Correct. Spoiler alert. But he didn't survive it through his battle prowess for the most part. He has ski survived through politics. He got inside the air in the minds of the right people and manipulate them to do the things he needed them to do to put himself in a position to escape. Okay. That's not going to help them in this situation. We've established that he's really not going to be able to manipulate Chucky, a whole heck of a lot, and he's not going to be able to turn Chucky to some weird extra purpose that's going to serve Tyrian, and that's really his go to move a lot of these situations. The last thing I would say this before we render judgment is I believe that the way that this battle is going to go is Tyrians going to do his number one thing survive. I think that necessarily Chucky might not kill Tyrian Lancaster. But I think Terry and runs away, I think that when he sees a voodoo doll on the battlefield in a one on one. Encounter used to to your point to point. Number three Tyrian is a survivor. He does not tend to take extra risks that he's not forced into a position to if he does not have. Two and when dealt with a supernatural beating attacking him that cannot be reasoned with because he is a flat psychopath. I think Terry and Lancaster would find a way to maybe drop address, or something on Shuki and run away from the field of battle creating his own battlefield removal, because he doesn't necessarily like to fight his battles a face to face. He likes to survive he likes to escape and that would be where I would leave this set of thoughts. When does he do that? When does he do that in combat well, when he got hit in the face, and the battle blackwater? He stayed down in the mud, the entire debate, will he didn't engage more enemies after that point when he had the ability when he again. Yes, by by not taking part in the paddle by running away. I think this makes a lot of when he killed when he killed his father Taiwian. He ran away. He. Right. And just like Chucky runs to have all of a sudden he's discovered. He doesn't stay there to take on the hordes of people that come his way to appoint a Chucky gets himself out of situations. Tyrian oftentimes need somebody else to come rescue from the dungeon that has happened multiple times over the course of the series. That's not going to help them in this battle, no outside interference allowed, but let's put it in the hands of our. Let's do it. All right. So you've heard both sides of this battle tell us who do you think wins this battle, and give us your process? Tell us what my God. Okay, do you want. Do you want who wins? I walk us through the process, and then tell us the process. Okay. So because I am a samurai romanticism these to meet on a completely barren dirt road and Eto Eto era, Kyoto Japan on. Yes. Commend aside these to meet in Japan. They're walking both on road. They spot one another. They both know they have to do battle. So I think that cancels out in my mind that cancels out Ray your equation of Tyrian running away. I think he knows he's got to do battle. He's got a defeat this guy. So I think that the lens to yours, James, where terrier is going to eventually survive, try and figure out a way to win. He's gonna do his best to figure out a way. Now continuing figure out a way before Cecchi stabs him up gives them stabbing Tom. I, I really see that check. He's going to do the best he can. I think I think equally they both are probably equal physical strength Chucky, having the strength of a, a man, a Tyrian showed incredible strength quite a few times. I've never done it myself, but I don't think strangling someone is, is he easy task like how he looks at you Ray when he says that not me let go. He knows my history. Oh my God. The need of these can access weapons at all, if they have have weapons if it's part of their standard profile, or something that they are commonly seen with Chucky, the butcher. The butcher knife years, and I would say that there's always something zones. There's always always something serious. Okay. So check. He's got a butcher knife tunes going to have a dagger. You boys have put me in a quite a conundrum year. Tyrians pretty good with an axe. I just don't know of an ax is going to be lying around. I don't think it axes present. I think they both are carrying what they have with them. So butcher knife versus dagger mass manipulation versus pure psychopath was this, what we news. You're gonna play some type of tumbleweed music. Hold west. We'll talk amongst ourselves. Man, you raise your new raise right shirt? Hashtag raise right. Shirt is very bright. It is really, really bright. It's brighter than the standard red stag, who would win shirt have I vamp enough. Are you ready to render your verdict? Yes. Okay. So I see Chucky Chucky Chucky does major damage. He's doing major damage Tyrian is somewhat hanging with them. I think Chucky gets Tyrian on the brink of death and because of Tyrian superior intellect and survivability he figures out that after probably cutting, I wanna say cheque's arm off, Chuck, he's probably lost a leg may or may not have lost a head at this point, and is still going Tyrians gonna face. I don't think he's going to be scared at the of the supernatural. I think he's probably seen a white Walker this point. He's going to figure out these gotta go for the heart, and I think that's going to lead Tyrian two. Probably in a very last. Gasping breath, stabbing Chucky in the heart. I think he's going to, I think Terry is gonna win. I, I am in a state of disbelief right now, are you kidding around now? Yes. And stabbing him in the heart. Not gonna do anything the six ways that Chucky been defeated twice being shot not going to happen in acts not going to happen. Inflating the head. Not gonna happen. The guy tells at the child play taking it back to the first one. The blue man tells the cop was named Norris or something like that tells them that the only way to kill Cecchi is to or to kill Charles at that point is to stab him in the Har, meaning the heart and I think, yeah, I think I think Tyrian figures that out. I can't believe that ability of Chucky cheese pudding, Syria, somehow, he's going to have the strip, this is this is disgusting. How does this flat disgusting shamed? Of you right now. How so in correcting at home must be outraged and throwing things outside the windows of their cars. If they're listening to this. Warning people on the freeway right now, there is obstacle in the road because people are so invited by this decision. I said, what does it say Joseph, I gotta tell you. I think he made a great decision great process. I think you stabbed Ray through the heart right now with his at her hers Ray doesn't it doesn't it? Disbelief right now. I cannot believe how obvious this decision is to screw it up the way that you did. Joseph you're looking at Ray right now. What do you what what's going through your head? Like, what, what's the what's the process of like how disgusted you are with raise behavior right now? I mean, this is not a classy way to handle a loss. I'm not discussed it he thought put a lot of a lot of passionate to this. And in a very admirable attempt because being corrected. All things is admirable Teva ripped from you inconsequentially is not. Do you know what was on the line, listening to any point? I made today on the line for rate today. Joseph was nothing. But the point is the point is that he's have to wear as raise. Right. That's right. He's gotta wear. No. He's got it will just wear the regular shirt. That's the punishment. Actually. It's a very what they give it this way. You may have lost the battle again shockingly? But how good you look in the shirt, I look great in the shirt shirtless. I've said raise right? Is a state of being in a state of mind, not necessarily a day to day decision. Joseph, I am. I am very disappointed in you right now. I think you have to be like level. Nine in Scientology to even wear a hashtag raise right shirt right now. I mean that's how like it's Ray and Tom Cruise that's it. Unlike being level nine and Scientology this costs a lot less. True. Okay. Well, yeah Ray Bradbury, Joe civil, thank you very much for being on the show time, we're gonna let you do Joseph remind me next time, I invite somebody from the Facebook group to not do it because to me, why the Facebook group is so awesome. You did a great job. He's always doing. Tell everyone, again where they can find you guys can find me on Instagram at Joey is famous, I have a at the behest of race to Kansas reactivated my Twitter account block is find me at points off wins on Twitter, Facebook me, friend me, you know, enjoy all my that I put out. I sure did. Be on the lookout for the, the pimps short film. You can catch me in the latest comedy central original sketch LeBron versus MJ, as well as every third Saturday. Eight pm at the pack theater. Sixty four seventy Santa Monica boulevard. Come out and watch mixed signals and of China to vomit from laughing too hard. Love it vomiting. All right. It's not from laughter disgust you could find Ray crying in the fetal position in the shower while eating chocolate. I don't know. Ray where can people find you the confessional? Telling my pastor how disgusted I am of the evil thoughts that I've had flowing through me for the last three minutes, there's no church that would accept you come on. I mean if you pay them enough out. Well, okay, let's you and. And what about what on Twitter where can you want? You can find me out almighty Ray again, I don't even know what to say at this point the outrage through the people and the people are really all I can lean on right now. Because Joseph, you're obviously just making poor decisions and I just I feel bad for you. I feel terrible for you that you would. Shame yourself in such a way. It's such a public stage being a fan of the concept of being a fan of the show, you would come in here and quite frankly, embarrass yourself in front of the entire world is outrageous to me, so you can find me somewhere mad correct? Correct me wrong, but would Rabi like the perfect audience member for like a Maury Povich show. Right. Like this is man for casting. If you need an audience, member, who's gonna like just jump to, like crazy conclusions. Right. Like you're not the father, then. Absolutely expect to be an audience plan at one of my shows, I love it. I love it. All right. Well, you can find me pose my question of the day on Twitter at James Gavin. Remember to join the official who would win Facebook group to make a suggestion for a matchup for the show and be part of our growing community. And check out the hood win website at www who would win show dot com to access all of our podcast episodes as well. 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His family spent roughly the next decade until he was twenty two in refugee camps in Kenya until they were resettled. Lancaster City Pennsylvania in two thousand fourteen and out of these tragic circumstances just five years later. Mustafa is a small business owner. Just like his dad was and refugees like him and other immigrants are a meaningful part of a complicated success story. The story of how Lancaster City and surrounding Lancaster county have prospered economically. I'm Stacey Manic Smith Cardiff Garcia. Normally the two of us the CO hosts of planet money's Daily podcast called the indicator from planet money. And you know if you are feeling like you need more podcasts. In your life you should subscribe. We welcome new subscribers on pretty welcoming try to be. The indicator tells the short story about economics every single day in less than ten minutes and today on planet money two of those indicators back to back first up is Mustafa New Order. 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Weekly go to NPR DOT org slash planet money newsletter about two years into their. Stay at a Kenyan refugee camp after fleeing Somalia Mustafa Nor and his family found that they had been selected to be resettled in the US and initially. They had mixed feelings so when the country selects you. You're notified two years in that. Hey you know. United States House elected you on. Dad has in the refugee camp. That always comes as a great news or bad news because because the United States takes the longest to process anybody to have a harder process. They have hottest glued to need how to bug run checks and he's right the vetting process for refugees coming to the US intense. There's multiple interviews and background checks and security checks by different branches of the US government fingerprints tests for contagious diseases. It can take years from. His family took a decade but eventually as with other refugees who make it through the whole process. The family was paired with a resettlement agency. Mustafa and his family were paired with Church World Service. Which has a branch in Lancaster? It's nonprofit that received funding from the federal government and from private donors and it sets up refugee families with a few months of housing some counseling services food and clothing and then they tried to Find your job right away because once you around here you have to start a pain. Bake your bill for the government for bringing you a lot of people don't know this but yes refugees payback the US government for the cost of flying here from Asaf big family. Those were not cheap. Flights is around eleven to twelve hundred per person so family of ten ten people. You get a bill of almost ten thousand bedrooms. He stuff says he found Lancaster City and Lancaster County unexpectedly welcoming to his refugee family and to other refugee families and that in fact is the city's reputation in two thousand sixteen before the trump administration started limiting how many refugees could come to the US. The number of refugees were resettled in Lancaster. City hit a peak of four hundred and seven as a share of the city's population. That's almost twenty three times more refugees resettled than in the US as a whole which is why. The city was labeled the refugee capital of America by the BBC. So why is Lancaster able to resettle so many refugees? One reason is resources. For example Church World Service. The Resettlement Agency is able to partner with local organizations to provide services beyond just the basics beyond the initial housing and food and clothes for example. There's a nonprofit that provides healthcare to refugees English language tutors to school district and universities to help with education employment programs and companies that will actively try to hire refugees and train them. Sheila Masto Prieto runs the Lancaster Office. Church World Service and she says that all these resources make it possible for Lancaster to accept even the hardest cases. Like when there's a huge refugee family of ten or fifteen people or when a refugee has a medical issue and can't work or if a refugee only speaks a relief obscure foreign language. There are no cases in this area that we that we would refuse so we do have the option when a cases sent us by our national office to say they basically they're saying will you accept this case so we always do and it's not just tangible resources. There's something else that has given Lancaster the ability to absorb refugees. Its history starting in the early eighteenth century members of the Mennonite and Amish churches were fleeing persecution in Europe and started moving to Lancaster. The county still has a huge amish and mennonite population and the value of welcoming people in need of a new home has remained. Steve Note a professor at Elizabethtown College spoke with us at the Mennonite historical society which features exhibits about the Amish Mennonite history of Lancaster. Well in the in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties for example Mennonites in this area were Were deeply involved in resettlement of refugees from Southeast Asia from from Vietnam Cambodia Laos And that's that was motivated both by No Christian humanitarian concerns and also concerns that As mennonites as conscientious objectors pacifists and in fact Mustafa's own experience right after arriving. Lancaster reflects this. My first job was I worked with the Amish. I used to work for a convenient. That build garages and sheds so used to install windows. He did well enough at this job installing windows for these sheds that was hired by a company called E. Impact Marketing which provides marketing for amish companies in the area in which train Mustafa in web design. Mustafa would end up becoming their head web developer. And then he started thinking more broadly he started a company called bridge which is a website where people can sign up to have dinner in the home of a refugee family in the area. The refugee family will cook the meal and share their story and the family will also said a fever. The dinner which it gets to keep bridge charges a service fee which is how it makes money. Mustafa original pitch for bridge one. A business plan competition which provided the funding to get. It started. My vigil is our GONNA instead of instead of free training or given a new skill. Why not give them a platform where they can on an income with what they already know would not have which is their culture under food. Adamos AMAC is Lancaster based economist. And he says it. Refugees and immigrants contribute to a local economy by helping its population grow and thereby giving new businesses more people to sell to customers and also people hire employees. Adam says it will stop the story also demonstrates some more subtle ways that immigrants and refugees contribute a moving to neighborhoods it. Others might find less desirable and they start interesting businesses and they really contribute to the diversity of consumer experiences downtown in downtown Lancaster. You can eat at Vietnamese place. You can be at a Nepalese place. There's just a huge amount of variety missed offices. His company is making money and he even has plans to expand into neighboring your county and the ads. That historian shows the symbiotic relationship between the Lancaster economy. And it's refugees and it goes something like this. The success of the economy makes it possible for the city to offer resources to these refugees. So that they can prosper and they're prospering feeds right back into the success of the Lancaster economy. So what happens? One hundred fifty person comes here to community. This community has done a very good job of harnessing that refugee person as a whole from employment to training to job opportunities to enterpreneurship training. So I I. I went through those different of coming here. Receiving welcome Ho Ho finding a stable job and then developing a skill which is the development Web Development. Are they using that skill to create a company? Now so it's a great circle on its own. It's something which is very. I don't WanNa say unique. What's special about Lancaster? Coming up after the break inside. Amazon flex and all the hidden work that goes into getting you your packages in two days or less this message comes from. 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It's that thing I ordered So good it's like many Christmas without the terrible airports. Yes exactly and you see that box. You have a swarm fuzzy feeling inside but do you ever stop to think about the person who brought you that box. Now if you're I guess was maybe the postal worker or the ups driver you'd be about fifty percent right. According to a recent estimate by Morgan Stanley. Almost half of Amazon shipments are actually delivered by Amazon itself and often the final drop is made by one of thousands of GIG workers hired through this. App called Amazon Flex. How your week do you spend doing flex? Oh my goodness a pretty much every waking hour that I'm not eating or sleeping in this is Lynn. Were only using her first name here because she's worried. Speaking to a reporter could affect her ability to get work from Amazon. Lend used to be an administrative assistant but a couple of years ago she quit and dove headfirst into the GIG economy. Once I realized that there were other jobs out there. That were a lot more convenient a lot. More flexible I never really looked back once. I started soon Amazon. Flex went from being Lynn Side. Hustle to her main source of income. It became a front hustle her front hustle so lynn is among the roughly one percent of US workers who make a living through online gig work and to better understand what this particular gig involves. We took a ride. Can you like walk me through? How does this thing work? So this is the main page right here. Is the home page. It's basically are homosexual Massachusetts. Lynn pulls up the Amazon FLEX APP on her phone on screen is a list of what they call blocks basically shifts of two to four hours where she can sign up to deliver stuff and next to each shift is a dollar amount for how much she can earn which sounds pretty simple. But here's the tricky part. The dollar amounts for the blocks will change usually the closer it gets to the starting time. The rates will start to raise. And it's kind of like a game to see how high you can get it before that block disappears on you. The wonky term for this is dynamic pricing and it means she's got to be strategic. Grab a block too soon and she could be leaving money on the table way too long and someone else might grab it. You keep on having to do this. Swipe down on the APP it refreshes and you basically have to do that constantly throughout the day to see what's available for Work Lynch says the feeling of catching a block is addictive. And on the good days it pays a lot more than she used to make as an administrative assistant and the day that you were there. Drian Lynn booked a three and a half hour shift for Ninety Five Bucks. And then you guys win for a ride. We did so on that afternoon we hoppner sedan and drive to a nearby Amazon warehouse and when we got there she drove past. A bunch of big trucks entered the building through a big door. Half the space was taken up by. Basically these are like big metal tower and this network of chutes and conveyor belts. And then next to that was a long row of parking spaces so lynn drove over to one of these spots where shell full of boxes and envelopes was already waiting for her and then to find out where it all went. She took her phone. Scans IT DOWNLOADS? The packages onto my phone and looks like going to Worcester. Not My favorite place to go to no shade on Worcester. She said it was actually the roads. They're kinda rough shorts the roads so as she was loading up the car. I noticed that some of these packages are pretty big. Like there was a fancy pressure cooker. A child's car seat official query break a lot of nails doing this job but you managed to get the car packed up and once she did the rest of our afternoon basically went like this. She drives to a house grabs a package in carefully traverses snow covered walkway and ignoring the scary sounding. Dog She drops off the package in. Scans the label to let Amazon. No it's done over the next few hours. Lynn repeats this process eighteen times. That's a lot of times and a lot of dogs weren't eighteen dogs. Lynn told me like eighteen stops is actually a pretty easy shift often. She'll make thirty or forty stops in one. Go I mean this sounds exactly like a ups job or a mail carrier. Yeah and just like a mail carrier. Flynn has to deal with bad roads. Hungry dogs lousy weather. Oh and slipping false like she told me about this one time when she slipped on a customer's wet stone walkway and my feet went straight out from under me and I landed right on my back and it went so hard that my teeth clink too and I think the guy inside must've heard me because he peered out the door and said are you okay and I said I think so. And he's at all right and then shut the door and even help me up. Saul's like okay. I swear that people in Massachusetts are nice. I mean I suppose he asked if she was. Okay that's something. Yes but you know it's a pretty scary thing to happen and stories like this are why. Some experts are critical Amazon. Flex like david-weill. He's a professor studying. Labor policy at Brandeis University. The mail deliver came to your house to deliver a package or the. Ups driver was an employee of those companies and they would be protected by a whole set of workplace laws. If they get injured on the job they might get workers comp or their union might help if they face harassment or discrimination civil rights laws might cover them but these don't apply to flex drivers because they're not technically employees and Adrian. Jewish shut Amazon for the story and they were pretty clear with you. They consider flex drivers to be independent contractors. But David Weil. He's pretty skeptical of this label. Real independent contractor keyword there is independent and through the FLEX APP AMAZON EXERTS. A lot of control over when drivers work. And how much pays it also tracks their performance and punishes those that fail to meet a certain standard when you have that much control over. What a worker does and the consequences of failing to do that. We call that employment. At least while does yard used there ought to be laws that give flex drivers in other workers. The kinds of protections employees get protections. That could help folks like Lynn Right now. If she breaks her arm making delivery she has to figure out how to pay for it and while she's laid up of course she's not making money and Adrian. You Talk to Lynn. How did she feel about this? She says it might be nice to have some more benefits but not if it means losing the flexibility she expects from Gig work out interesting. Yeah but there's an irony here. Lyn has flexibility but also. She says she works a lot harder than she used to. While we were on the road together she told me she spends about thirty five hours a week driving. And then there's all the time she spends on her phone swiping and just trying to get a shift. My Day is taken up between looking for work doing work. And then squeezing an bite to eat here and there which can be difficult affect your social life. What social life and that schedule? It doesn't leave a lot of time for things like shopping either. What she says it actually fine. Because if there's ever anything she needs to buy she can usually find it on. Amazon comes back. There's no escape Amazon. Wins in the end. Yeah that was reporter Adrian Ma from. Wb You are in Boston. And this has been to indicators Cardiff get back in here for the credit. I never actually left the been here. The whole you've been here the Times like these stories indicator planet. Money publicist one every single day. So subscribe to the indicator is produced by Lena Sons. Gary and Darius Rafi on our editor is Paddy Hirsch and our fact checker intern is Britney. 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Pennsylvania's Amish Country
"Today descendants of European settlers still live and work much as their forebears did hear Lancaster counties Pennsylvania Dutch community the though that nickname is a little misleading their ancestors were Dutch. There were Swiss and German or Deutsche which persecuted for their faith. At home the Amish began coming to Pennsylvania in the seventeen twenty s in search of religious freedom. They settled into a rustic way of life here. Guided by a strict set of traditions known as the ordinance or order it laid out the principles of their religion and dictated take every aspect of their austere lifestyle. Many of their descendants still carefully. Follow the Ordinance But during an adolescent period called rooms bring a young amish are allowed to break guidelines an experience. The modern world decide for themselves whether they want to make a final commitment to their faith. Those who do will spend their lives lives raising their families in solid but plain houses with few modern conveniences and doing their housework and laundry by hand and tilling their fields. Just as the first I almost did without tractors or motorized harvesters while tending some of the most productive farmland in the US land that continues to allow this community to thrive today. There are over thirty thousand Amish Lancaster. County alone but two hundred years of inbreeding have caused a wide range of genetic irregularities in their community that's why gene hunters flocked to this corner of Pennsylvania to study Amish DNA and help find cures for children and others who've been affected even with their expanding numbers. It's getting getting harder for the Amish. To keep the modern world at Bain as more and more people feel new subdivisions that were once farms. Some some wonder. If the Amish way of life will be able to survive
Episode 90 Sally Beck Royal Lancaster & Hotelier of the year
"Welcome to the humans of Hospitality podcast with me, Mark Crib and the week where we had official data showing that as a country unsurprisingly had a historic drop in GDP and the twenty five percent of backdrop was due to the hospitality sector alone yet still we have no confirmation on when bars and restaurants will allow to reopen all bear. Most of us are working towards the fourth of July anyway. But still for many people, being able to open does not mean that it makes actual financial sense to open particularly with the debate around one meter, and to me to distancing, but most people I speak to certainly wants to be able to make decisions themselves rather than rely on government orders. Without confirmation is incredibly hard to give team certainty of a return date to give suppliers confirmation of delivery dates, and to generally work through the complexities of getting hundreds of moving parts in a venue up and running. We wait in anticipation. But despite the chaos, this week's guest is a true inspiration of hospitality. Sammy back as the general manager of the Royal Lancaster Hotel in London and Saudi is also, that's one thousand nine hundred ninety hotelier of the year joining some legendary predescessors off the award I saw Sally Talk Caterer show a year or so ago and been wanting to have a more in depth conversation ever since and we have a pretty wide ranging conversation all the way from chickens to my relief, Sally was not actually born in a pub to how forty. Forty, million pound refurbishment actually turned into an eighty five million pound refurbishment as well as Sally's desire to create the Happiest Hotel in London, and what that actually means now sally is very principle person when it comes to the integrity of our industry, and how we should be treating apprentice ships, and in fact, all members have our teams. Sally is much more about the team and asking for opinions, rather than demanding results, and with consecutive years in the Times employer of choice awards approach is paying huge dividends, Poe coach really and financially. Well it was before the pandemic hit at least, and we also chat on its impact complexities and sally's thoughts on how and when to reopen as well as some exceptionally creative thoughts on how? Trading on the other side Sammy. Seavy is awesome, and she deserves her reputation as one of the best in class. I'm confident. You'll get to enjoy this conversation and learn a few nuggets of wisdom on the way. And for Sammy's Hotels Charter that we chat about in the show, please do check out the Patriot on page where you can also support the podcast as well as I financially as well as signing up for our weekly newsletter, keeping you informed of our latest updates, just get humans of hospitality dot co dot UK forward slash. Donate enjoy the show. Sally Braddock from Royal Lancaster, thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today hugely appreciated. Can I just also wherever in the world? At home. I'm sat in a little place. Called skittle Green, which is a hamlet of lead lined him Shannon Wow that sounds idyllic. Is that your your home? Anti is actually the we've got all three chickens now. We did have ten, but the folks go to. It's a lovely spot, so yeah, I'm very blessed. Be Hit! We can't stop the cost devastating news about the. Recently. was about ten days ago. We've got aspires this time of year. You've got hungry focuses, and we thought that with us being at high chickens in the garden, and the doak whose chicken friendly we'd be found at knife. Folks coat six so. I've been thinking of getting some funny. I think that's the joy of lockdown is been so in my got him out and. Put me off. I can't cope with cope with emotional trauma. We did use to name them. But to the Fox over the years has had about forty, so we're at now say. Very wise I take it then. You been working from home since the pandemic. Would you still go into the hotel? I go in appropriate once every week or every ten days I was in honestly yesterday to see the onsite team check a jet Ski. Measures recent Cabbie looking at ways to manage the. Such distancing in certain as the hotel so I go in every every week or so. And other. Since the twenty second March. An an how we'd is it being in the Royal? Lancaster at the moment. How many how many people if you go working? There I've got sixteen, which sounds like a have lot originate with just two four six eight ten Got Two teams team team. Be On security. During twelve hour shifts. But I've actually now added my engineering team because my engineering team during PPM flushing. Maintenance accenture while hotels. but I have to. It is weird carrying in, but the team of become a real tight little knit family. TYPE TENNIS SETUP IN IN THE LOW bay. badminton set one of the ballrooms and. Yeah! There's a there's a good vibe. The Team Spirit said when yeah, it's good I. Just really these buildings normally have such an incredible personality because they never rest rated as hotels, a unique I guess in the fat there in operation. Twenty, four seven, unlike off its block, so it's an old failing. I think when we say building like that. Resting almost nicer because I hadn't they normally have so much energy? Yeah! It has it is funny. That's a definitely a dull moment failing just waiting. And it also quite window that nobody knows role Lancaster, while speaks in windy that siphoned up to the full coat and lockdown night. Manager runs a yoga session in that, so if anyone who can pass, they cannot chigney. Say by ten. Team Ending Instructing So those would be things that will remember and small auto once we get back to normality, whatever the new normal that is! HOW CAGED CONNECT! With creating memories at the very least so for people that don't know the Royal Lancaster it's a beast is over four hundred rooms, but also of events and banquet space. Can you just give us a little bit but description yeah. Four hundred eleven Ramos. We've got nineteen floors where TAB. That goes up and to, and then we sort of sit on a podium where we go to be ballrooms A. Did one eight hundred another. On about eleven twelve different meeting rooms and space, five kitchens a deep tire. Wonderful Thai restaurant on address ront hatred kitchens. And then off oast flow park restaurants. And Bosso, so we are big based. Yeah. And the restaurant's open to the public, not just for the hotel guests that I mean obviously in the normal wealth earth into everybody right now the but yes, in the normal world we have a good loyal Clientele tickly front times at Tie Restaurant. You are the twenty nineteen hotelier of the renowned for being passionate about employment of. People so we're going to chat today. About your thoughts and the hotel charter will come to the pandemic a little bit as well, but I wanNA touch your background on base down in in Bournemouth on the south coast that I understand you know it well. Is this where you will also say your career? He started way before it. Is it true you aborted a pup? Is Born in political red line in Wells? which is what in Green or actually new wells asset for eighteen months, and then we moved to the. Monks sounds can be cornering in Lincolnshire. A Nanday hotels bedrooms Eventually I did my first training done at the domain down a said NATO neck of the woods. Training, training manager for a couple of years that Would traffic. Because of the is then came back on worked with clipper hotels down the south. West! And, then eventually came to London. And diversified sales marketing. Yeah Nice to combat. But I'll just go when you say born in is literally. Building in hospital, but lived in a pup as boarding hostel. Okay. I really beverly will resting if he was. A combat you'll need industry town quite relieved. Foul had images of you sorta some urgency. Birth on or off which which? Did you selected specifically than with a desire to want to get into one of the Great Asaf hospitality capitals of the World Forty to London. inish our scandal London I. Felt it was an too big attempt. That wasn't I. Think eventually if you do want to have career towels. That's where the biggest in the best hotels are. The most vibrant hotel scene is. yeah, I think London was ended up that destiny for me. I started work at the Great Western royal out. She's now Hilton Paddington working for Mrs Fattier. Frightening months, which is very unusual, nobody paid for about three or four months anyway eighteen months i. was that before then a Comrades Chelsea Jojoba I wish I five star hotel. And then I moved row garden to the reacting that, and then I started landmark in January, twenty, nine, January, two, thousand and one. Could. It's it's an impressive. Your your master in holders and Finish You Fellowship Institute of Hospitals You've achieved phenomenon amount so congratulations. How long have you been at the Lancaster? And do you remember when you first walk into that building? I started She started working at the Roller on November twenty twelve. But my bosses front screen at the landmark and then Steve Kline at the road, nine coster and Brian Cannock, Huseyin Day who had oldest three hotels. We have in London. They wanted me to come out to sows mocked and get back into operations, and we come hotel manager at the Royal Lancaster, which is quite shift from address House maxine mark. That's quite a. Bit, scary. Remember walking in. My husband loves willoughby. Secretive time went and spent a night. The role link the rooms tired and very small competitive landmarks ribs. On Remedy Gov, only I knew spent about forty million on the hotel and shifted from full social fires, Toronto God. This is going to be enough. Sleep fated and how the management. Anyway I took the job to the face and And then we did the renovations, and it wasn't forty million. It was eighty five mins on. We did do it. I was meant to be working statement for a couple of years. But in actual fact, I started November Twenty, twelve, beginning off, and he had the Disney to in end of November, twenty twelve, so I actually have three months with him. before I took on team general manager, so my first position, big base of high towel and stopped the approach it just grew and grew say yeah had to twenty four hours a panic and then go ahead down. Roy A K.. Calm down technique. Bryson is not rocket science you'll do. And we did. Amazing I'm I'm somewhat relieved to hear the you'll budget start at forty million and ended up eighty five because every refurbishment. I've ever done anything pretty much. Come out with double y initially estimated. was. Was that because you decided? To evolve I suppose and do more, or or did it just Copa Budget because big trump well I think. Originate. That was a need to reduce fifty years old, so beautiful sort of naked, an old lady. On the hotel, native new air conditioning, new plumbing, new electrics, justice, the whole infrastructurally really so that was the first headman in and then we needed to connect. Will that new kit the bedrooms and so that took up the other thirty minutes. That might the fourteen million. But I said to the you never get return on investment. Unless she did the dopey on the public areas. Otherwise you can help useful bedrooms, but you still look walking into a seventies high. and that was another another chunk of money. So it did grow. Group puppy an Ara and invested everything really well for the next fifty years, so it grew, but it wasn't like a monster overspend. It was actually just you just can't do pau that you just got to do all of that into property. Investment also saying in in plumbing electrical and all that kind of back of house stuff you don't see is heartbreaking because it's so essential. But it's very hard to sort of justify return on investment, because it's the shiny new things that seem to attract the customers, isn't it? But if you don't get right yet? None of it were. Not Nice? No, it's being done properly in. It's an independent hotel. So this was all all this money was raised privately. Yeah one one one family. And his best for the long term and Sav what had since I started the landmark in January two, thousand and one, he unfortunately passed away in February of this year, which was just gutted for all of those. But his some tongue, who is I've nine. Thomson's nine congested porn is being gated groomed to of. Continued legacy. And his brother tone. The. Two of them have taken the helm. and. It's just been awful to have congestive one's legacy. Close with this panic. But the two young gentlemen and I'll continuing his legacy of caring about stove, carrying about the long term benefits of a hotels. Doing it properly. So I feel this being a smooth transition, even though it's been heartbreaking. Is, good and unusual. I think to get that sort of smooth transitional too often. A shot that means things go on the market and a great deal about people's. Notes the know that they've got some sort of longevity I guess. Ob. So impact then spent spent the ended the refurbishment finish we reopen just thrown, never closed so rolling cost. We put on the front door on twenty seventeen. And that we still have quite a bit snagging also the rubbish to to get through eighteen. Nineteen was on. Full Year of full trading with night builders a and have to say cracking job at which shifted from seventeen tripadvisor up to in the thirties, which is no mean fate. And, taking business trump some of the top five star hotels in London in the events in comfort side. A making a in the high end leisure and becoming the five star hotel that we deserved to be. On I kept the sang team. and everything was going right. Gums so yeah, so we we practically finished was about. Team, and then had a a full first full year of trading. Okay and not just as a result clearly of the the investment to the tournament of the hotels you achieving. Hotel where the year certainly you raised your profile in but you also publicly stated that you wanted to crate. Was it the Happiest Hotel? In London so lots of other things have had an impact. What did you mean by that as the as the happiest had? Amine. Listen mean a towels all my life. And I. Think we're really happy industry, but. It it, it's not necessarily the case that is carried by the way through tyreek heavy stuff, but I believe my team happy August feel it, and that happiness can soundtrack I don't mean it to sound tried. Happiness to maintains that you heard you'll listen to. That you're developed. You're trained. You'll pop the solution. that. You have a sense of wellbeing. I'm not responsible for Montaigne happiness, but I'm responsible for creating a culture. Happiness can thrive in a have bullying doesn a fair in the hotel. There's no fear favored any meetings and everyone's go, Brian, it's not just mine. Expect old work, and all this gets a sense of out. If you're going to sensitive out, then you can feel happy I. Want people to come into to feeling right. What can I date day I? WanNa be Amazing I. WanNa Be Brilliant. I WanNa do stuff, and it's when things go wrong that you know. that. If you've got a good coacher, you work at have to fix it. You don't have blind culture and all this stuff bills as happiness. And, so it's that I want to be the happiest hotel in London Cam sound really offense sweet. Wanted to believe it his money on the bottom line. I think happy people stay. Happy People it's contagious. Happiness Maine's. They feel safe that trusted that venue that cared for. Which means they can do stuff that part of the solution says you got some indicators wrong. You WanNa. Fix It as opposed. Say Well. It's not my fault. I don't care. so yeah, so it's. So pop to that. the means that you'll the happiest hotel on. People want to give the guests, not happy feeling and I think it's contagious. And I think fantastic we. The HUG club loyalty scheme for our customers. So you're happy. Hugs think it's what we stand for. As an industry basically, and and it's working the fact that you've been in the top one hundred of the Sunday Times best companies to work for for a number of years in a row. Is that right? Yeah yeah, it is probably one of my best accolades I that I've ever had. I wanted to get into it because I wanted I. Think Listen Listen. It's not the bill and Endo, but it's a way of monitoring. What engaging truly happy. And the first time we did the question A. Way It was. It was. I think. To something. And we took those two that way for two years and just worked on all sorts of stuff. And then went again, and we were in the midst of I, mean it was we got three or four hundred builders. Case was in turmoil. We keep an eye on the lifts out and associates in just really hard time for the whole team when the survey again and go in on our absolute, blown away and actually being in Tis with with thinking Christ with doing something right here. Because you know, the product was so hard to do what was, but the team engaged or fat listening. Being involved haring handle made huge huge input. To coach. And then we've gone. We go in at number eighty and we've just carried all now. And that were set yet. I WANNA dance at yeah. I'm place it. It was it was raining good. Because Traditionally about this, but you know we have. We have a reputation as an industry I suppose as being. Yes great and great energy, and it's not particularly academic, but we also have a reputation for poor hours many hours and working antisocial time so to get your team engaged enough whether happy to sort of show, a rave about working weekends working Friday and Saturday nights. Working law is particularly press if let alone doing it when the places a building. So, what were the biggest challenges from? When you went in the first time you said that was his nephew did over those two years way? Did you say the biggest? I probably think the service charge. When I came in You GotTa do it the things we need commitment. Stop Looking at sociology realized that it was. It was very unfair, and it wasn't transparent. some chefs rennet. Some chefs went. Manages ran on limited hours in Basically screw that teams by put themselves on for as many satellite. There was a point. If you go on well, and you're the favorite. You got more points, which means you go more service charge? It was all the place so. Strict consulted with the tame, it's transparent manages account. fifty fifty hours. Frontline and and supervisors and team leaders etc announces on, capped. As possible, it's one point one point, absolutely everybody. Annette's IT and and I think rates to hold the trust into into the into the team. You can't have one happy that you can make it fair and transparent for everybody. It was a this. This is fair. This is transparent and that's how it is. Not that went in, so that was it took a while to consult. But that was a big STOUDT. I would say Dan also. It's big, approachable and being around. I found when I first started. Talking General Manager was probably the scary thing nine two man. People did want to sit in the cantate that freaky for. Women Sat with them. And anyway eventually tout that it's just savvy. And at I I can inductions I say take moments before the taken on I I. Don't know bright down a lot of hard rock. Barry is I have an inverted hierarchy. I sit at the bottom of the time go. Take? and that means that my job is to make sure the frontline team of whatever they need because they see guess. a not that breaks down this middle bit of hierarchy. The hardest thing I find is if a new manager. Ken's Intel. Hotel and things right now is my tom tether I won't. I'd I'd tell people I will. I ask people what they think what we think we should do how we do it, so I can't have managed. It comes in because on the managers my way, this is how it is. That doesn't work roller coaster, so if you can pray cool that down, you can breathe fresh air route through your organization, and you can have trusted I. Think from any Relationship Trust. You don't get anything so I think if you go trusted transparency than than. Well Joyce You keep an. Eye One hundred percent I think there's always an Iranian hospitality, though we spend all of our time looking after the customers and Whether it's anniversaries, birthdays holidays whatever they're visiting for, and that culture hasn't necessarily always existed back of House, and I think fundamentally work in hospitality, and I think it's definitely changed, and we've got much better at it, but it's reflects. I think wanting to look after human beings, and if you're looking after your customers, you should absolutely look audiotape. And when I was reading earlier, I'd say it made me smile. I saw quite. I can't remember where I saw it with reading about you. Leona acquired from one of your team. It said this is the first place where the staff run away when they see the general manager your hotel manager approaching pre she what we do. Yeah I. think that's from how many people do you employ? Got About three hundred and fifty in terms of fulltime equivalent appropriate event another hundred. Casual Agency because the events business so. Usually I talk that formed in sixty five. So it's, it's a big. Number managing motivate. So, this is one of the the hotel charter is this? Is this your initiative? And it did come about predominantly from sort of you know employment on culture perspective. Yet it did in its. Funny funny why I mean base got today choices hightower of the F. Twenty nine hundred. And when you get paid you, you have to you to do this. Acceptance speech and I was thinking. NATO the whole deal of the industry that I'm thinking A. I did research. holders. The tenor of the we'll just make that he seven years. Analogy thinking about you know what's changed and what's improved on stuff and an may actually reputation. In the industry hasn't improved in that time. wrote to his to doctors. Am I L. This is actually an apprentice red, carnation. This is A. eighteen tomorrow, but. When she was fifteen It at ruin Costa and there was a friend of has school. That wanted to. Describe what just come. On, we can sort out, do five days in boyfriend. The departments etc.. On this mother said this is a folk hero woman in Buckingham. Shea said. Why would my daughter wants of and? we still the. And then I thought about while reputation is like that. controversial anyway. Gordon, Ramsay I'm not his best fan. I'm sure it's an amazing chef. But. He's made his money in TV by bullying. Shouting at young people, young chefs on that reputation assists. And Kitchens that. Are Shouting is acceptable. And then again, I'm sorry for being controversial Michelle Regina, and obviously the royal family nine done amazing so far industry, but he got cooled and. Putting. Not Paying his team properties garage. and. Topping, up with service charge. Not Us bad enough, but then he went on national TV and said the everybody does it. You can't run a restaurant in London without doing it. A No. One in our industry stood up and said. That's not right. I tweeted out. He's got two million on his followers I tweeted out. Shame on. You can run restaurant without ripping off my staff. I didn't get answered. It doesn't matter. But those those people that that behavior. Leaves an impression that this is not an industry that we should be joining these long hours to get rid talk. The money's not that right. The leaders in the industry think this is okay. Am I felt that we need to do more and I believe that hotel is due to more. On the reason, it said Hotel Utah to a not a hospitality to alter is because right now i? Think we've got a lot of work to do. To improve the reputation of our industry. And I believe hotels because we profit. Prophet was bedrooms that you help out business mix. We do better. Apprenticeship at practices that have. Can Walk across the whole load, different disciplines, and then choose to good fit in Persian. I. Think I think. Hoteliers after the whole of hospitality industry should be held up. As? Lead in all hateful development manage on night. That's controversial and neither. Cracking restaurants. Out Due to appropriate. But generally hotels. Property, broader defense say the hotel go. From when I did my acceptance speech in November. Last year, and then I sat with West. London Hotel Manages Association that Makoto. The following day launch was on monthly meeting. And just said we need to do more. We just decided that I. Tell you shot and might be the thing and we talk about it this ten points. People nate today was as members. And that's. A. Good. We'll other key key points on that without necessarily all Tan. But what's the the the sort of the most important of the general gist for I think I think tame Emma's can be developed. I think come into our industry and you. Can. You can start a food way two-room attendant? But you can be developed right away three to general manager. very very easily So you know when I think? eighty thirty, prentice. At the roller coaster. They've they generally. All of them got promoted. A. They stay with you know. I think starting online payment pages the national minimum wage of any about to be snow not stink. But the team, the team the don on national minimum wage a little bit over that then a lot along we, we promote quickly you know nothing that is endemic across our industry. So that's pot. Employees assist programs. To team members that. Struggle does a huge amount of pressure in our industry. Uncertain certain sectors you struggle with alcoholism. Debt etc, and I think having an opportunity to support your team. Certain employees assist pregnant hospitality action have. EXCETERA. Having clear transparent, service George. ETC So this. This key things in that I. Think Important Being Doghouse Esta. The other thing you know I, had two children. I've had flexi working in our industry. I think we'll say forget hotel's run twenty, four seven, which means we can, we can have as a shift pattern. For anybody in our industry if you're, in hotels. So You know we can. We can do the working as you can do. Working Dads that work life balance can happen because the shift patents vital So those a social things that I think should be a shafted about an advocated across house the. Other, integrate and are in the show. Notes of the people want to read the fulltime ten points I'll pop up on the on the website. The company's there. What's the upside and you'll? You'll basically encouraging the hotel industry to sign up to this sort of hotel by hotel basis. How how is it being? Rolled out on how people being responding well not to fight. We would G to launch in April nervously at the pandemic chemical, so we just muffle digital ready. So it's it's brought to prompted most bowling it at Prohibition Britian was signing up by this this and the northern. Hoteliers Association, which is run by journalists, is two hundred high-tension asssociation. The commitment was fully full. Those two hundred west London hotel managers association a criteria of membership amphitheater, thirty forty member on Hotel Association. If you haven't signed the charter, you can't join. So there was a huge amount of commitment to charter which was cracking. But I've since most bowl that just because it's not the right time at the moment. And on connecting it with. You can't specialty UK wide obviously. Meeting potent associations to his cracking job right now. Institute hospitality piece duck results come. Abode Very supportive as an educator Phil for young people. Mazarin House also been massively support. Friday through. So my goal is that the charter soon of sits with the institute, the UK hospitality. Association and also link couple the individual stations across the UK. We created Voice of. Of Good behavior, a good business practice, good employee engagement, and not committed across the whole of the UK linking the educators the association's monster in. In the glue in the middle, is that high tiniest shelters to behave? So. Bill to the moment animal launch but I think because of. The the big pressing thing of the night. When told the cities have to come out to covert? I tend to think we'll probably do the orange I would say next year. It might even Jay-paul next year so I'll have a meeting the next. Couple of weeks and will set what launch criterias. But it's alive lobby kicking. It says relevant now being more relevant now than it was before but I think our industry will survive this. But how we care for teams how we can stall is gonNA. Be Paramount as to how well we succeed. Plus a fantastic legacy of you! Yeah your your sort of hotel every year and guess what that kind of support of all of those key industry. Professionals behind it I'm sure it will be up this this idea. They're not because I. Share your. Concerns. I suppose on the history. Of the industry in in the second half for twenty years I do feel the is changing and changing it quite pace particularly i. think the the kitchen coach I think we still go challenges around working I was at around. Pay Without doubt. Kitchens, but it feels like it's changing. Do you think that change is being led by The companies were actually. Do you think the employees you know it's been challenging? Increasingly challenging for the last five or six years to get people to come into the industry. Do you think people now? Young people just expect to be managed in a different way. They have different requirements from the from their employees. A WHO's leading this change I think I think it's a combination I think it's a generational thing. Certainly the younger generations, the millennials the generation. Way they can do all the rubbish that we will. In a twelve fifty nine days are not the norm in the world and work. Life balance is expected, not something that's in the Nevada. So I. Think Generation that's changing which is really important. So I think that's happening and I saw cracking employees out that who you know themselves many didn't see that families when they wanted to an didn't have. Enough as make sure that it's happening, so I think it's happening at both ends of the employment. Sector practice and which I think is really great thing I. Don't think you are right. It is improving. But that's because women until we can see it. My interest is this lady, but he he would let her door to do work experience it I. Tell because why would you want to pay seven? How do we get to her? How do we get to those parents to say? Do you know what I love my child to be in the hospitality industry as opposed to using still? I'm not that includes schools educators I've watched with. My daughter's goes through. Their options not once has an educator said. You'd be cracking hospitality. It's still not seen as a profession that you want your. Son To go into. You'd still rather. They did something else in. Pharmaceutical, or finance or something like that? You think Oh yeah you cranking personality. Gay Foreign Hospitality. They still see it as a as a, you can talk up some money. Go work in the bar. She's pocket. Money is not a career. We still have a Helluva lot today. Did Yeah. I, don't know how you fix that. As a parent, I'm sort of laughing partly as well because most my team have probably got more guitars and crayons than they've got sort of academia and I think it's that the parents wishes almost always that you know you get sort of solid academic. Background near the other of encouraging people in Taliban. You and I will love it for the reasons that you can progressively fast, and it's all about personality infamy. The key point of education should be around. Teaching children to be good citizens than if you can look people in the eye, and you can smile in communicate. You'd think whatever industry you go into anywhere in the world you'll, you'll be well-placed, but yeah. How do you errands? Always won't make maybe at least for the first year to be to be doctors and nurses and professionals, and then they realize actually in my son's A. A bit of a a Hippie and nights, playing the drums, and my daughter's more likely to become a you know. I don't know the dancing on a stage so she's rested for for a career in in hospitality Ba is definitely a challenge. I don't know how we fix that. In the parents is apart from the I suppose it's going to be incremental. Progress repealed of Thomas. I think I think if they have hit good stories Gay to urinate on one of the best hotels in London. A, my sister's in hospitality. You know she. Looks after cruise lines and stuff. I mean the opportunity to travel. See some amazing places. You, carry your work with you. You know it's who you are what you are. Is just amazing in-office cracking experiences, but we don't talk about that navigates out there into the public arena. Old gets out. That is long hours unlike. At an older glorious stories of of all the amazing stuff that you've done, we've dumb. We say experienced just somehow gets buried somewhere and that's what we've got to change. That you know, I mean. I've had cracking the Cricket World Cup football you the for ninety six week with headquarters the end for twenty twenty. Twenty one is going to be now. I've traveled the world I've stayed in the most amazing. Hey, tiles be! Cracking campaigns, the the local campaign for it is coming to London. You know if it wasn't for the hoteliers. That would be a little bit. Because there was nothing transient, there was nothing tangible in night was all hypothetical, but I tennis pull that off and this site. That you can do in our industry and now Unika all of the entrepreneurs that have come through A. Hotel Streep Robin Hudson. Take. Hotels Ma Maison. Entrepreneurs can only call on it. Such vibrant exciting industry doesn't get talked about in schools and colleges. If you've got entrepreneurial spirit, you like people you should. Dan Hospitality because cry she can. It's rotten. The cut the hatchet new trends food. Nutrition drink transall the stuff, and but it's not. It's not talked about. I think the kids appreciate I. Go into schools and colleges and do toll sometimes and I think we we get I. Guess People, Probably No, no, the restaurants locally. One of them's on a beach and people are certainly more excited. To hear the entrepreneurial journey I guess if somebody in hospitality may be you know the council or the neue goes in so it appeals the case, but doesn't yet. The parents but I guess. Maybe over the generations that which I was trying to Rob Watson yesterday, the Restaurant Association by his young chef. Young waiter competition, and and the sort of transformations they've done to that and making it much more glitzy and an online application process, but the whole the whole of around around it was just a lot less stuffy than is being historically, so yeah I. I guess there's plenty going on I think one of the things that's come out of the pandemic and I'm GonNa Chat, so you about that it obeys you know we've seen a much greater appreciation for the NHS and clapping cares which has been fantastic, but I do think it's been a positive. Swing may be in all specialty as well in the fat, but a lot of our industry, which is fundamentally crippled at the moment and stepped up of we've seen so high profile, apple, fading and workers. We've been recognized I suppose as a service I. Think people recognize how much in its intended taken away you re bt's we are and how much we liked balls and restaurants. Do you think that there is an opportunity at the moment, so sort of come out this? with, perhaps a reputation as I Day I think I. Think you're absolutely right. I think this needs to cracking. Examples of how hospitality is. Beyond beyond expectations and paying for being a SEC to this painting credibly impacted negatively in terms of revenues and tonight. I think we will come out it much stronger than she is going to be great. And so yeah! I think that's an opportunity frizzell to cross. Continue the they good examples of workmanship, but We still got a long way to go. You Know I. Think Hospitality Eight, depending on how the government the coffers the next few months you know. I already hear that the amounting increased homelessness is from the hospitality sector homes so. I applaud the great stories that there's underlying worried I have. The obviousness is will not be able to manage this on our teams again a big. Who wrote. An Austin wayside. Time? It feels hurtling towards. A deadline and things very fluid and changing, but now the research come out and say from August we'll be contributing towards the furlough scheme, and that's going to be incrementally growing. There was some disappointment and concern across the sector that that wasn't perhaps a sector-specific package. For us in in tourism in the UK or in hospitality, where sees an industry and I think I'll biggest concern now is is losing pretty much the entire summer. And then how do we get through this winter to next summer with all teams at all of that experience and all of that training intact when it looks like the government support. Is. Being withdrawal wants your full song on the trajectory and what the government should be doing and you're on Sunday. Pathetically delighted that they don't. They done so far. An I was some gratified that. Even though it's it's, it's being sit. If tailored will be September October it still then. An agreement as I've said the guy to. Stop the failings game from November onwards. I'm hopeful. I think PM's Question Times yesterday. He alluded to sector specific packages hospitality. Let's. Between now, and before we get to about Toba, they outlined something that can be that safety net for us, because with all the win in the world, and in my company's cracking company, and they were talking two hundred percent or An half. Don and we'll do until July were not discussing. That looks like to Tober. But we know the winning the world. We're not going to be up to ten profit. Between November and April unnecessary pool. So by not turning a profit me, we haven't made any redundancies that I have plenty of other businesses that already around to around three on. That's with fellow current thing in pace. So. The margins followed. A business. Is a site tight? They can't come date social distancing. Levels at the mind. Ron Sustain businesses so I'm I'm hopeful I. Mike Copies always nutty hopeful. Of Not giving up yet, I'm hopeful. Government in is gonNA. Come up with something that might stretches through. These first six months and take through the winter. But yet it's it's it's. It's not easy and. I, it's not something I employ. People and we've been looking at this in the last. Few days and you know it's. It's hard to imagine that we don't at the very least cut down sickening the hotel of little hotel in the restaurants here we can potentially cut down to a five day. We can, if we do that means we can run on one thing to dominate open from eight in the morning till eleven at night save seven days a week means we need two or three things, but if we cut down to one team, be Wednesday to Sunday Fakih serves e even that knowing that it will probably. Probably be making the winter, but but you know you did a list of all of the team on a little spreadsheet yesterday. It's heartbreaking to realize the quality of some of the people that that we could potentially lose, and you just think it's such a waste because we know we'll need them next April, but it's not. It's not pay can't pay. We just have reserves to get us to that site. He even even with the bills. Lenders limit to the amount of debt you can. You can get into so yeah I share. I share the optimism, and hope will go become increasingly concerned I guess the other big one that sort of looming very fast. This is the issue in the cool city rent issues, maybe more so for the after the restaurant sector will certainly some of the bigger hotel chains as well and that, and that's looking like a a potential cliff to drop off as well any thoughts on that. Yeah I. Think. Really companies don't ever extended We don't have any bake. Big Demands from banks shareholders so. We're in a somewhat unique situation. I suppose could my colleagues friends stopping talking to. Ya I'm hoping that the government can can just help with 'em business right advances extra. And on the people that work in between the banks and Yourself and others are actually taking the longer term view. This is Tom. We need another six months at the end of October of support on how to get through. And, I think we just need views craigslist possible on now. Looking at changing, the contracts have got floataion. To enforce flexi working. Warming with the Nice of Chunk of the man's today, all alone will do whatever they can to help through. What I need is a flexible workforce. I'm not gonNA touch single agency. Casual worker unfortunately some hawk out to them to. An finding a one hundred people out my three hundred not comfort I right now. Then for WE I. I'M GONNA. Be flagged those humdrum an ad. Make it three hundred and try and keep honky with some money and going because it's gonNa cost us on. Than Say's and then I'm going to make them in six months, so ends up as a negative in all places. I've Austin to save you money. Be careful. Take good expenditure advice, but I just don't blow it all because we're GONNA. Go into haunt a hot place but I'd rather have three hundred working on a three day week than a hundred working on five. An, not be able to keep more so I. DUNNo, it's! It's GonNa be a long haul. Up offering them in. If you want to call it you WANNA take us back to I'll keep Jehovah. If you've just not seeing any family for three months being lockdown gone have three months holiday with your family. Take on unpaid. Come back in six months heavy job for you. I'm looking at every single where chemical listed team members that actually deny what. Capability, wise! Is it now not time those that I've got some cracking people that renite late sixties seventies that what this is. Is it time now that you actually take? Take you pension. Because I've got other people now. That property needed more. Single working, mums at unite to throw them on on A. Out To redundancy now kills me. So you know, we'll be having some discussions in some creative thinking, and we will have to make some. Yes, some tough decisions but I'm hopeful we can. If the government continued, there is talk about a lifelong Is. Like having these compensations? I, it's it's refreshing to know and the same with the feedback that I get I think people appreciate that we're. All looking similar thing I was literally or call before this one with my FDU having compensation team meeting, one of my restaurants tomorrow at ten o'clock, and then I was saying aimed at the first stage of this. I think has to be not voluntary approach saying the hoot year. Is that what you saying? Who is willing to go down to a to a two or three a week for the winter? Who has been thinking of studying that cool collegial? A couple of months and go abroad, and yeah, exactly that the more people that will do it voluntarily and to be fair. We coming into the pandemic, and before the game was an ounce. You know we did the same thing and right. What do you need? I'm going to do a blanket. Fifty percent twenty percent pay cut you come you guys. Come back and tell we need to live on and I will do my very best to try, and and and Yeah I. Guess That's the wonderful thing about our sector is is full of good human beings, and if you've got a good company culture, people will want to stay and I guess there's GonNa be less. Places for for people to go as well. What? What's your thought? Sort of you know joined to a close. What? What's your thoughts on on coming out? The other side of this is to the impact. You think a lot of people come through it. You think this is a six month or two year issue you've opening would've given this some out. We come out the other side and I think we go to be really creative. I think what has what that we closed in is not the world. We're GONNA happen. I think you need to find in this period of law the time to think to ready well about what your business could look like because it's, it's all changed. Customer Expectations Have Changed Kuzma travel. Habits have changed or will be changing. So A try to really think broadly deeply in creativity, I mean we Lich nate. delighted to deal with them, arriving company with Putin am. Mixed Reality Production. Help Sam. Buddies check to bits about it. It means that I can do actual reality if I conn an audience fifty people as opposed to five hundred half, and then as virtual reality, taste can go out the other four, hundred and fifty to come come because it'd be, the social distancing will vote controls all the to sketch. Come into London or whatever. Annapolis Shit we've done with our ideas often depends with kit. That given us on I. Think he's GonNa. Make a difference for the short term baby, even agent where offense again be hot rum. So That's interesting I'm making combining at kitchens that let me do. I can put on the kitchen into dining. Enough I lo- kitchen, so that I can do to live a room I can create that Matt that some in the off chefs have not David will being separate finding differently. Go if I can run a kitchen identified the marginal cost of adding a second kitchen, keeping people on Fed I. because otherwise it's going to cost me than than waking. Get additional cost, and so just gotTa Think Different Lansing Smalley. One of my outlasted goes out to. Straight. I'm looking at just during a strike. Strike Away. Straight into the park and edgy change, probably by even as a restaurant, it was really hard to break. Even anyway when you do full service to put in such distant salmon can do homes. The numbers is. Just, it's it's account. There's no way I can make. That might night so best of turning it into a takeaway out that shifting it. If we think differently also crash, we keep our heads. And workout your base cost or what you need to break even internal. There's a chance for guy. If we're going to be stubborn, a not think clearly. Then I'm not saying. We deserved to fail, but we're not taken. All the opportunities available in chrome sees comes opportunity, and you've got to be in the right frame of mind to find the opportunity and do something with it, and then don't underestimate workforce. They are not stupid. They understand everything that's going on. They WANNA be potted solution. Bring around the table. Talk about what they can do. Talk about how we can do in the restrictions that you're under Vicenza. Cash is they'll get it and then work on it together, and then I think we you know. optimus will come out tight-knit with massive veteran, stronger, appropriate, more resilient, and with the different, a different set of profit levels in a different set of. Businesses business models than what we had before and hopefully will back on this. Thank Christ. That was a seismic shift, but now what we've go. Are you enjoying this period of enforced creativity. And joins not the right word because I know there's people that behind every bloody decision on Mike. Said not enjoying I find it challenging. I find it. Really. Eat Really Quite A. Very, sometimes I could be massively positive. Thinking okay a glimmer flawless. Let's find out what can you do with that light? Not Productions Stadium, letty delighted with it and then the next day. You just read a whole Lotta Gump's that. You into a black holes thinking Christ Wendy Ivan Accomplishment Open there's GonNa be domestic business. squabblings of hotels think happening in July and recognized do about twenty thirty cent occupancy called love central London, it doesn't have that much domestic business. Keep those hotels flight. So! I think expectations are all over the place. And somewhere in the middle of it all there is reality. The Buddha controls of the quarantining the government putting on now is now sleet. KISA death why they're doing it now and they did do it at the stock on the United States. If they keep that Steph home when they open as up, it's it's it's really is like my God we count. So this I find it, it's it's a little bit of an emotional roller coaster, but you've got sent yourself. You've got a chance talk to other people. Find someone else to get you on the street in ours you can same cry today, because as late as business, people are looking to us to late effectively. On if we're if we're. Chopping and changing in an emotional roller coaster. How can you late three hundred people? How can I cough? Livelihoods and the well-being is the team that trustee me to do the best I can. So, it's not an enjoyable place. But it's a place on determined to use the time. To do the best I can. And I hate to God that the government continued given his every bloody lifeline nine to man i. s continued in patient with us and look to the right resources that they can keep waiting for they need to. And I note tour to the public in our industry to use the time while to be so lettie creative to create the demaim. D- to get people back into your doors and spending night. Seems like good advice. Do you know when you're going to reopen? I'm thinking August I think July with government and keeping the federal I until I two percent, and all the rest of it. There's no business model announced it will open in July. Particularly Quarantine Measures on. Says a challenge I think as a case of being in whatever doubts is open, if not August, if I can't depending on what happened, I'm quite Saturday yet definitely. September because hostile golf in his business with this with this production suiting. The demand for that I think he's GonNa main that we need to be open in oldest ready for September. September soften. The business that I've had in is is moved and changed, but by having the unity during the virtual and actual reality take, it's given off. Klein say only I could do a needs to I can't Corales that out an an ribbing so flexible with our clients, saying Kay this that she's just just make it with. so I anticipate that September Taiba I wouldn't have the business I wanted. But I should have something. For the service to clients, the nate to communicate with a wanted to work fools. Think people are being more understanding and we'll patient. I think we can't move than that. Release it and sell it. We're all affected by. This is a new world for all of us will work with you. We'll be flexible. Will will try navigate away through, but I'm very conscious of time, so thank you so much for being so I put on for chatting should also people will find that exceptionally useful if you want to follow your journey, you particularly active on any particular social media channel, either personally or as a business. And the team that I'm not misbehaving at my health me run on instagram account. I'm pro. We might not. To Envy's anyone I can turn my head to it so. Might Team Deface we're GONNA close facebook account for everybody on the team, and then lake were out that which which was well may pass. I'm not the best social media by the nine hundred million for tennis mind based active. I can. Put some links on the website to to some of the company ones and Zeros as well and I enjoy your daughter's birthday tomorrow. That's. Yeah entertain at the. It's going to be a lockdown eighteen Salem, my husband myself and the Dole. We've got lots of little plans and exciting things to surprise a with segue. Say I think we'll have fun and then over the fan with a few. The weather's going to stay in. My Mom, and sister and mother findings can come into the distance guard. Thing I candidate It'll be. It'll be memorable for different reasons. I'm sure so Yeah good. Even Tasha ultra. In and if you're ever back in your old stomping ground bomber, then come down for glass of wine on the beach. 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Season 3 Starts November 7th
"If we learned anything while producing the first couple of seasons of proof is that there are countless untold stories about the things that we eat and drink some are strange the media jumped all over the Franken fish who walks put the mangoes in the trunk of Uber and Uber will drive back to Long Island and there will be lots of surprises. We'll crack open a secret mango smuggling ring. Oh Yeah you heard that right somebody called me and said I'm going to send an Uber Her we'll find out if waster mushrooms are the key to rebuilding a nation I was amazed by how fuss they crew move it and remodel it and out came pouring buckets and buckets and gallons of wheat the way it was coming across on twitter was I have ancient yeast. I'm bridget Lancaster and I'll be your guide on this wonderful and weird food journey brand new episodes of proof are coming to U. November cal cocktail and there was a big big that time for a lot of people when I was teenager most of my friends they left the town I lost my friends I fought yeah right what you've got is museum dust he bakes bread and he soon as I walked in the door hands me a piece of toast and he's like Oh my God taste this be sure to subscribe so you don't miss out on a single one so those are wild turkeys heritage read wilder it really and the economic for one for my people my goal was to feed people well uncovered the hidden
Facing The Music
"The. Christie's murdered. She was taken so soon and so violently. I couldn't stop shake a young teacher leaving for school murdered before she could get out the door. This was a horrific scene. It was a nightmare scene. She had Christmas presents that she was taken to her students that day I was petrified. I just thought who why we looked suspect after suspect after suspect the crime was a mystery for decades we were still with no answer this poor family. We thought we might be able to solve this case could cutting edge science yield a new clue. This was a huge lead obsolete. This wasn't someone that they had had a reason to look out her talk to before he was here. He was here, the whole time, you are literally talking to Christie's killer right face to face. Evil comes in all packages. Certainly does, who was the killer hiding among them. I'm Lester Holt and this is big line. Here's Andrew canning with facing the music. They were having so much fun. A group of girlfriends hitting the town one Saturday night. Lost in the music. We would go to different clubs and we probably made ourselves. No, where here come look at us in a fun way, this was the playground. They knew by heart. This was the home where they felt safe. They were invincible. You're in this bubble your twenty-five like nothing's going to happen to you. And then less than forty eight hours later. One of them was gone. Murdered and the killer was at large. And I remember being paralyzed like not being able to leave the house. This not only stole your friend. It stole your innocence. Yeah. It said. It would take another twenty five years to find the killer, a most unlikely suspect, always there, watching them, daring them. You are literally talking to Christie's killer. Right. And I kept thinking after the fact, and he had to have known who I was when I was standing in he had to have known who I was. Some things are so life altering you can't forget them. No matter how hard you try for Harry Goodman, that moment came the morning of December. Twenty first nineteen Ninety-two, Perry was the principal of an elementary school in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, his star teacher twenty five year old Christie Merak was late for work Christie, was there every morning right around eight o'clock, when eight became eight thirty. Harry grew uneasy, and the kids started to come into the classroom. So I called her apartment about five times, nothing. He contacted her family who lived about a two hour drive, north Christie's brother, Vince Marach, the kind of person she was we just thought something was wrong. It was that gut feeling the family told Harry they hadn't heard from Christie that morning. Harry couldn't wait any longer. He knew she lived nearby with a friend. So you decided to jump in your car to go see what's going on with Christy. I was prepared to go down in Jinja tire on union state. That's what you were expecting. That's what I was expecting. Okay. Her car's broken down ROY. But it wasn't and when he eventually pulled up to Christie's apartment complex, I saw her car there, and it was iced over. And then I started to freak out her front door was open. He went inside and looked to his left. He saw her in the living room lifeless on the floor. He ran to call nine one one. I was a total mess. I mean I was. I was in hysterics. In total shock. I it was pretty apparent that she had been murdered Craig Steadman is the Lancaster county district. Attorney back in the early nineties he was a young prosecutor. This was a horrific scene. Yeah. It's a it was a nightmare scene. You know, not only the fact that he had this young teacher who was brutally murdered. But she'd been sexually assaulted on top of that seem clear, at least at first glance how she died. No other than than been there had been a brutal struggle, the medical examiner would later determine that in addition to being sexually assaulted Christie had been beaten, and strangled to death likely that very morning Michiel gloves on, so most people when they were getting ready to go to work if it's the last thing you do is you put your gloves on beforehand. She had Christmas presents that she was taking to her students that day that were strewn about, as far as part of the struggle so brazen to that this would happen. At that, that hour of the morning, when people are going to work to school, and those places are close together, and there's a lot of cars around there and people bought a people around the number of witnesses that could have been there. Some that person was buried determined to do whatever he wanted to do. Police collected crime scene evidence, including DNA the killer left behind during the sexual assault. And they canvas the neighborhood for witnesses her brother vents says he had no idea what was happening until he arrived at the police station. The session was started with, you know, there was an accident. She passed away. Of course. Obviously we said, what happened? And that's when they told us she was murdered, Christie's roommate. Mary got a call from police asking to meet back at the apartment something about Christie being in trouble when she arrived a detective approached her, and he brought me into his car, and he said Christie's been murdered and I spent like. Like being doubled over just trying to stop the shaking Mary explained that she left the apartment around seven not morning Christie was still getting ready for work. I always striving away and I'm like, gosh, should go back and get my lunch already this far on just gonna keep going. That meant Christie was murdered sometime between seven and just after nine that morning. When Harry Goodman found her investigators asked Mary to do a walk through the apartment right away. She saw scuff marks on and near the front door. There's something from his shoes, or her shoe. She dug in as it's what I thought she's like just dug in, like he was contract, like she was dragged, and then there's this latter blood on the carpet and you had to see that. Just has to be so traumatizing. Yeah. Investigators believed Christie opened the door to leave only to have the killer drag her back in something else. Caught their attention. Mary's final conversation with Christie Phya laughed. I went and said, okay, we're going to meet up later and she sounded distant. And I said, are you. Okay. And she's like, no, I'm fine. So then I just went to work. What do you think it was? I don't know. I don't know if she was just thinking about the day or just choose preoccupied Christie had something on her mind and only moments to live investigators had to find out if the two were connected. When we come back clues to a mystery a boyfriend. She had told me that things were ending. She was highly ready to move on. This was a big deal. And a mysterious visitor at Christie's school. I've may have just been face to face with two killer. Lancaster county is Pennsylvania, Amish country, a place where old ways and modern suburban sprawl meat. The brutal murder of a schoolteacher just before Christmas, nineteen Ninety-two upset that sense of peace about people nicer county, particularly back then interested in lock their doors in the cars, very trusting community. And yet, DA Craig stead men says, Christie morass killing didn't have the Mark of a stranger seven seven thirty in the morning. Home invasion sexual assault. It would be highly unusual for something like that, to take place at that time of day in someone's apartment, just at random police wanted to know if Christie had any enemies, the answer was no her brother vents assist sister had tons of friends. She was kind caring and focused from the time she was a little girl. She wanted to be a teacher. We had a little thing, set up in our in our garage, where she was the schoolteacher. Now it's the summer and kids, one about and play in my sister's pulling them in to teach them when she wasn't playing school. She was goofing around, like a normal kid. You can ask anybody, and they'll tell you the same thing she always was laughing smile, and just a good good having a good time. And always dancing there. She is, as a high schooler in the yellow top groove into the eighties and the old TV dance show dancing on air. Favorite attacking her spot? Oh, it's a stepper after high school. She took her work play at to Millersville university in Lancaster her. She met her other family were you all like sisters. Absolutely Kristie circle included that roommate, Mary Franciscus. Chris, Walter, Lisa Bailey and Marianne Taylor shared close. We've shared hair products. We share everything. I'm react. I don't think there's anything about each other that we don't know and that's such a rare friendship. And when it came to Christie, her friends knew she could hold her own, especially when they'd go out if someone came up, and she wasn't interested, she had no problem telling people. At the road. I'm not interested. She was also protective of her friends when they graduated few of them set up house in that apartment complex just outside downtown. Lancaster Christie was always very safe person like lock your doors. Always leave with a buddy and we did feel safe. There was no Mellon nowhere. I mean, our backyard was an Amish farm, a dairy farm. By then Christie had already landed her dream job as a teacher here. She is leading a sixth grade class and science. Her a Goodman, saw something special in her shed the kids motivated. They were captivated some people would drag themselves into work Christie. Didn't look at it as work if only you could bottle that on my gosh, sell it. Yeah. Tell me. Investigators did find one loose thread in her life. She loved him. So loyal to him Christie had fallen for a man who went by the nickname dagger wasn't exactly her. Friends idea of catch Christie was twenty five and e was not. We who is old. I remember. Twenty years older. Almost twice Christie's age, but he had a good job as president of the local Teamsters. And he was generous, I think she felt cared for. I don't even know exactly how whether that was finance only or what but I think she felt cared for Christie didn't divulge much about her boyfriend or his past. But her friends could tell he was in. No rush to the altar. They thought that bothered Christie, especially as the friends started moving out and getting married. Maybe having just been to Chris's wedding that September. I'm thinking, maybe that's that she was realizing that's the life, I deserved two days before she was killed that Saturday Christie had come to a decision. She had told me that things were ending with dagger. She was finally ready to move on. This was a big deal because she'd been with him for years. She looked happy. And we saw Kristie back bubbly happy ready to get out there and live, and that night, she did the friends went out downtown hitting the clubs. Now. Police had to consider whether Christie told dagger she wanted to break up if so how'd you taken badly? Was that on Christie's mind, the morning, she was murdered or had Christie angered someone else from that Saturday night? Police wanted to know more where did you eat where did you go dancing? Where did you go after that, who was there, then something bizarre, the day after Christie's murder a man walked into her school? He clearly didn't belong there. Protest him and said, hope you Bob Wilson was an assistant school superintendent. You should. Oh. I'm just here to see. Kristie miratec. I said, well, unfortunately, you're going to have to leave Christie has passed the mysterious visitor said he hadn't heard the news he claimed he was Christie's friend, then he laughed. It was hard to believe that anyone in Lancaster county would not have heard about. Bob will since mind waste. He'd heard stories of investigations where the criminals seemed eager to catch the attention of police media after that is what I call to place. I thought I may have just been face to face with the killer, whoever that mystery man was police knew they had to find him immediately. Coming up. It would have been shocking to her to see him, come in that building a surprise was in store about that surprise, visitor something to do with him. There was no other logical explanation. Terrified? Dateline continues. Bob Wilson was one of Christie's colleagues, he was certain the man who showed up at school, a day after the murder claiming to be her friend had instead been her killer. I was convinced. In fact, I should. We're going to get the guy for digit right now, today, he called police told them the story and gave them the man's name turned out. It was no random visitor at all. It was none other then dagger. Christie's longtime boyfriend police brought him in for questioning they found out dagger had a secret. He had a wife. He was married. So he was pretty high on the suspect list. And I can tell you even talking to the investigators say were absolutely convinced. The you know that he this was him but dagger insisted it wasn't he said, when Christie died, he was hundreds of miles away in Virginia, where he'd recently moved with his wife, Christie's, France were stunned. She never mentioned dagger was married. Sure she even knew now they had to wonder if her decision to break things off with him two days before her death had doomed her. He might not have liked that. She was she was devoted to him. And I'm sure that would be a loss for him tonight, life anymore, and it was years. I mean you don't just cut that tie and haven't not mean anything and when they heard he showed up at Christie's school, their suspicions grew. We were all thinking he was trying to establish some kind of alibi or to show that he had no involvement. Look how much I love her. I'm ready to make it held lick, and it was so on because it, it was everywhere that she had been murdered. I mean everywhere in Lancaster. So I just never understood how he didn't know and he was very uncharacteristic of him to show up at the school. I think it would have been. Shocking to her to see him, come in that building like it would have been a nerve ING for her to have her worlds collide like that. But the idea that dagger did it Bella part, police confirmed his alibi. He had been in Virginia, the time of the murder. The also tested his DNA against the DNA the killer left during the sexual assaults eliminated through alibi as well as I typically still, her friends, wondered if he might have been involved in Christie's death, somehow to them dagger had always been a man of mystery. He didn't talk about his life, or work, their imaginations, ran wild. He either hired a hitman, right? Or it was a revenge with something to do with him with somebody that wanted to get back at him for whatever reason there was no other logical explanation for us at the time they were terrified, but investigators. Didn't by the hitmen angle personal hitman do not usually get into hand to hand physical combat with their victim. And they certainly don't leave multiple DNA samples behind you wouldn't think that anyone would do it at seven fifteen in the morning and her apartment, there'd be way better ways to do this. It's just not consistent with a professional type hit. Police needed to consider other men, Christine might have crossed her friends did mention one incident from that Saturday night. They ran into someone who dated another one of their friends, who was not a good guy, and we called him out on it. They believe the man had been abusive to their friend had even killed her dog. Thank we puppy, kepi killer. Oh my gosh. How did he react hitless scary is associated path? Big scary. Yeah. So did you tell the police about him as well? Yeah. Yeah. Talk about a motive, that's something we latched onto because we thought Christie angered him by calling him this name in a very public place. Police looked into it, but eventually cleared him to in the meantime, her friends kept trying to help with the investigation. They had our photo albums, and we would go through all the guys on the photo album and give them their names as it happened. Police were already interested in someone else, his connection to Christie was more recent and compelling than those old photos, and he'd practically driven himself into the heart of the case. Coming up a walk in the door. And they start to fingerprint me. I think. They think I did this a principal under the microscope. What's their tone? What kind of questions are they asking? You are extremely accused Atari. First question did you murder Chrissy? Merak. After Christie miraculous, her principal, Harry Goodman, says he got a phone call to come down to the police station, and they said, we want to talk to you and ask you questions about Christie's teaching in those kind of. So I walk in. He thought they would ask routine questions about Christie's background. He was wrong a walk in the door and they start to fingerprint me. I'm what they think I did this morning, the loss of our teacher and our friend and all of a sudden I'm being interrogated. Why do you think they zeroed in on you found her? And that's it. That one. Founder, actually. There was a bit more. The DA said investigators found Harry's drive to check on his employees that morning. Very strange. A lot of bosses when someone's only, you know, thirty forty minutes late. They don't jump in their car to go to go see if someone's okay? Why did you feel the need to to do that? That's just who I am. I, I knew something was wrong. I thought Christi might need help. He says police asked where he'd been in the hours before her death. Harry recalled going to the gym coming home to change and heading back out to work. What's their tone? What kind of questions? Are they asking you extremely accused? Atari. You know, why would you have hired her? What was it about her that you like so much? I mean they were coming at me with all ends detectives asked if he would take a polygraph. I'm thinking, I've got nothing to hide hooked me up. First question did you murder Chrissy Merak, Harry told them know after answering all their questions? He says he passed the polygraph, they later confirmed his alibi and is DNA was not a match, but Harry knew some people still suspected him. My teachers would always come up to me. Harry, you should heard what so-and-so is Saint, I said, don't tell me, I don't wanna know police began looking elsewhere, they even considered the possibility that Christie might not have known her killer. That's winter friends, recalled something that had happened months earlier at the apartment back. Then they brushed it off. Now, they wondered you have bizarre incident. One night, we're dagger comes over and sees. Somebody in the bushes, they went after the stranger we immediately jumped up and started screaming at him. And we chased him down here and all the way down there, and what gave you the courage to go after this person because he violated us he was picking in our window, but they never got a good look at the guy that wasn't much help to police investigators needed to focus on the solid leads. They did have neighbors told them they'd spotted a white car outside Christie's apartment just before the murder. There were four five or six people that saw at some point that morning, a white car coordin- driving around that complex. Some thought it was a Toyota Celica like this one, but one witness who saw man get out of the car near the apartment that morning described a different making model. A dodge Daytona. Police decided to focus on that type of car. So they took that information, and they put it in the registry for, for Pennsylvania, for anyone that had the similar type vehicle. But her friends didn't know anyone who drove that kind of dodge started to worry the killer, whoever he was might come back for one of them. I remember going to the work, and I saw car that was meaning the description of the car that they were looking for. Being paralyzed like not being able to leave the house. He's waiting for aid. And I remember writing their license plate number down, and putting in my pocket. So when they found my body, they would have this Claire, this has to strike fear in to people when, when a young girl like that is brutally murdered and, and the person who did it is at large out there. The person was out there to this whole time. The investigation dragged on weeks became months, then years, still police believe that white car and the DNA from the crime scene with lead them to Christie's killer. Do you remember how many people were tested for their DNA? Well it was definitely dozens. We looked at suspect after suspect after suspect as time went on we started just reaching out to just we'll could it be this person? Could it be this person? And when the FBI created a national DNA database Kotas, investigators on Christie's case uploaded, a sample from the crime scene. It didn't match DNA of anyone in the system, the waiting was especially hard for Christie's mother, a decade after the murder, she died, not knowing who killed her daughter are promised her, that I wouldn't give up. You know. Because I knew it was, you know, she was leaving. And we were still but no answer, then took up the cause staying in touch with police even putting up a billboard looking for any new leads, but nothing just hitting this dead end all the time was just it was just extremely frustrating for us as a family, but a breakthrough was coming a new way to analyze DNA and catch criminals a new way to find Christie's killer. Coming up. So we're looking for is the pieces of DNA for that person's I color their hair color their face shape. Coda DNA breakthrough break the still mate in Christie's case, he can look a lot like this. Right. When dateline continues. Time seems to pass more slowly you're in the rolling farmlands of Lancaster county Pennsylvania, but for Christine Iraq's loved ones felt like time had stopped altogether. Nearly twenty five years had gone by since her death. And investigators were no closer to catching her killer it must've bothered. You knowing that whoever did. This was getting away with it out walking around, or was he, I think there were times where we thought this person could be dead by now will really never know. Still, they wanted to know needed to know who her killer was they just had to wait a little longer. Some things in in law enforcement are, are just through hard work and dedication, some things are just through incidents. And a little bit of luck in two thousand sixteen the DA's office heard about a new tool that uses DNA to solve cold cases genetic pheno typing allow scientists to create a composite of a suspect using the DNA left at a crime scene. So we're reading the information out of that DNA that determines, what that person looked like Ellen gray tack is director of informatics at a company called para Bonn, which is helped pioneer the use of DNA pheno, typing. So that DNA built that person. And that's what we're looking for is the pieces of the DNA that coded for that person's I color their hair color their face shape. And then we can tell that to the detectives this isn't the first time. Pheno typing has come up in one of our stories last year. Pair bond created an image from my DNA to show how it works. Why am anxious right now? Like I feel like I'm the criminal or something. Let's see. Okay. I felt like after I got my composite sketch from paragon that if I have committed a crime and left, my I would have been completely busted. Yeah. Of salute Hewitt of and right at the top of that suspect list. And now the Lancaster DA hope the company could help with Christie's case, the analyze the DNA left by her killer, trait by trait Herron, I color, facial structure, even ancestry, we found that he was partially of European descent, but also partially of Latino descent. So he's a mix of the two ancestries. They came up with three composites to reflect how he might have aged over the years. He can look a lot like this. Right. This may have been approximately. What he looked like when the crime was committed. The DA asked Christie's family and friends to take a look, when they actually saw the composite. I didn't see anyone. I know. And I'm like this is a stranger in October two thousand seventeen the. Made the composites public during a press conference. Maybe someone else would recognize the person in those images. There will be no. It's gonna be a waste of our time. We got a lot of call some of them seemed hopeful I ultimately lead to lead to nothing. That's so frustrating. Yeah. This was kind of we had felt like our last shot are lasting that, that we could do the composite didn't work, but it would not be their last shot. That's because investigators working on an unrelated crime in California came upon another way of solving cold cases. Police arresting a man they believe is so-called Golden State killer discovered using DNA California detectives found their suspect after uploading DNA from a crime scene to a database used by thousands looking for lost relatives their search turned up people whose DNA had distant matches to the killer from there. Investigators constructed a family tree. And narrowed it down to their man, when you read about it, and you see it, you say to yourself, what am I think about this? To- completely brilliant, para bonds genetic Genealogists did the same thing in the hunt for the man who murdered Christie. Sure enough. They found relatives who share DNA with her killer in a couple of days, they're able to take the few people who share DNA with our unknown killer, and build to who that person could have been remember, they knew the killer had European and Latino ancestry, one man in the family tree stood out. He matched the ancestry and live near Christie when she was murdered. But that doesn't mean investigators in Lancaster could make an arrest. Don't arrest people on what genetic databases saying we needed to get his sample, and we need to have it confirmed through a the state police crime lab. So they staked him out hoping he'd leave behind some. Thing with his DNA on it. We had a couple undercover guys watching all day long to try to see him. If ban something he'd been nothing took everything with them. We completely struck out. They tried again, state troopers, eventually followed the man to of all things an event had public school, this time, six s then undercover female trooper befriended him. And she was able to get get some things directly from him. He was able to get a water bottle and gum that he had used this state crime lab compared the DNA from those samples to the DNA from the crime scene. They matched now. Investigators were confident they had their man, standing right where they least expected them in the shadows of the dance floor. Coming up. He slept on my bed that night, you just don't know what to think. The man who murdered Christie is stunning. Identity revealed at last. Oh my gosh. You are literally talking to Christie's killer right face to face. Detectives believe they finally found Christine Iraq's killer, they matched his DNA to the crime, and they were ready to arrest him until you realize he's not even home. He's on vacation, brought out that he was actually on a trip across America with his wife and daughter now DA Craig's deadman had an agonizing decision to make do we arrest him out there. Not have our investigators try to interview him. Do we risk the safety of his new wife and adopted daughter? So what do you do? Well, so I made a decision to wait. Thankfully, there, man returned to Lancaster and on an early summer day in two thousand eighteen they arrested him outside his house. What was his reaction crying would acting pretty calm? Well, this is kind of a joke, right? And they kept telling him. No, you're rested for criminal homicide. Christine, iraq. He denies that he denied it. He denied ever knowing her today, we are announcing the arrest of Raymond Charles row for the murder Christie, Mira from December twenty first nineteen Ninety-two, Raymond. Rowe who was he never heard of the guy. I don't know who this person is turned out many people knew the accused by a different name. DJ breeze. Christie's friends were floored. He was the local J. Everyone everyone wanted. He was the guy who went to the same churches me. He had been raised in Lancaster. And he had essentially stayed here for his life around the time of Christie's murder. Row worked warehouse job by day and performed in clubs at night, aside from brush, with the law in two thousand one disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. He stayed out of trouble over the years. He married four times and built a name for himself as a DJ lot of our officers Newey was a lot of our officers had been events that he had been at was living in plain sight. He was living in plain sight. He had been living in plain sight. He never hid it. Now he was charged with murder. Investigators quickly connected him to another key piece of evidence that white car in nineteen Ninety-two row owned a Toyota Celica, similar to this that some of Christie's neighbors had mentioned, not the dodge Daytona police focused on had sitting in my office a pile about this big of all the dodge daytona's ever registered in Pennsylvania back at that time. Not the Celica not the Celica. Why not go through both in the database? I did not have an answer for you on that. I think that they felt like based on, on the information they had that the dodge Daytona was the way to go. Investigators now believed row. Drove that car passed Christie's doorstep often we discovered it, he worked very, very close proximity to wear Christie's apartment was stead says it's even possible row was the peeping Tom that cr-. Christie's friends chased just months before her murder. The what if Hans them thing that bothers me is if it would, like what if it was him if I would have caught them then. It gets. You upset just thinking about it now. Investigators also knew that bro might have spotted Christie in one of the downtown clubs like that Saturday before her death was he at the club that weekend, one of the places you went to. We don't know. We don't know we didn't know he didn't stand out if he was there and yet the DA thinks it's likely the to Matt, I think it was targeted. I think that she had encountered him at some event beforehand. My guess is had spurned him. And he saw her out there at that apartment. At some point. The DJ's connection to Christie's seemed tenuous. But Stefan says the DNA proved row killed her. In fact, the odds of the killer being anyone other than him on the entire planet, worked, just one in a million non million Octavian thousand trillion trillion things like this. I can't even actually conceive of a number with twenty seven zero or thirty zero. So it's what we ended up getting. It's remarkable. I just have I've never heard of a case with this much, and remember that composite from the killers DNA turns out, it was a pretty good match to row, even then it was hard for some in Lancaster to believe wrote could commit such a horrible crime, especially this woman. He was the life of the party. Her name is Monica Waylon. She was engaged to row when Christie was killed. This is the first time she's publicly talked about their relationship. You're learning that they believe he brutally murdered. A woman sexually assaulted her. And then came home to you. Yes. How do you process that? You just don't know what to think I mean, he slept on my bed that night, we had Christmas, four days later, and we got married months later, and you're none, the wiser. No. But Monica does remember Christie's murder being in the news and talking to row about it. He was concerned about your safety after this murder, it's outrageous to think that he's advising you on your safety and worrying about you, when he was the killer. It has surprisingly the couple divorced, almost six years later. There must also be a part of that. What did I see? Yeah. There was that there was it could have been me. You know, why wasn't it me? What did she have to die row was now facing trial? And if convicted the death penalty, but it didn't come to that in January two thousand nineteen he pleaded guilty to the murder and rape of Christie morale in exchange for a life sentence. For family felt relieved, but also cheated he's been doing what he wanted to do for the last twenty six years, and she's been dead for the last twenty six plus years. And I still think it got off pretty easy. Christie's friends are angry that Roe was able to live among them for so long never hinting at what he done. He was the guy. I talked to my daughter was planning. Her wedding. No at a wedding expo face-to-face spoke. You are literally talking to Christie's killer. Right. And I kept thinking after the fact, and he had to known who I was when I was standing in he had to have known who I was now, she'd like to have one more chance to meet him face to face. How did you know her a why did you do this? I still wanna drive to the prisons of. I just wanna ask them. I just don't understand why he did this. And they may never know neither row, nor his lawyers responded to datelines request for comment. Through it all this circle of France has stayed bonded. They think Christie for that I'd like to think Christie's kept us together. You almost feel guilty that we were able to get married and have kids and we still think about Christie like that. She never got to have that she was a huge light in this world. That was just taken way too. Is way too soon. That's all for now. I'm Lester Holt. Thanks for joining us.
Season 2 Starts May 23rd
"Hi, I'm Bridget, Lancaster. And we're back for season. Two of our podcast proof. Last season. We tackled. Some pretty varied food subjects, and we met people that share the same exhaustive might even say obsessive need to question every single thing. We know about food. You heard about the heyday of celery and I see caviar for twenty five cents caviar for twenty five cents. So there was a time. When celery was more expensive, caviar according to this menu. And we got to the bottom of that whole foodball trend. There's something spiritual about a bowl that doesn't exist on a plate. It's the sensual experience of having a bowl in your hand that transcends anything you can get from having a sandwich in your other hand. And there was a whole lot more cravings and ketchup, fair foods and fab might ties. Oh, yeah. And we really got into jelly beans and smelly socks and along. The way we figured out something. We're just getting started. The switch has been turned on our list of questions grows by the minute. And thanks to a bunch of people that share our curiosity. We're diving into some amazing new stories this season. We're going deep. The police said was a professional job the alarm had been disarmed, none of the locks were damaged. No sign of a forced entry. How could they building? Arment the police had no answers printing those things and the folder on my desk was called the the FDA master foul, and it was destroyed on the floor. I'll look at how historic events influence how we eat and drink is not a good story to say that ever since started because of clandestinity that Al Capone was buying probably why here in the gut the or the. But probably strew is what happened and how local solutions can solve big problems. The soil is pretty bad, which means that. It's very good. We'll take a look inside ourselves. There's also a possibility that bacteria are producing neurotransmitters in your gut, and then that's going directly into your blood or other pathways to your brain. And even put ourselves and harms. Movement. Why am I not? Oh. Wow. Does one slimy? Fish. If bills like a snake is that why? Is back, and we're still a podcast that takes a serious look at food taking ourselves seriously. Stay tuned for season two if you wanna get episodes of proof as soon as they drop. We'll be sure to subscribe wherever you listen.
Hershey vs Mars - Chocolate Town | 1
"Yeah it's spring eight hundred eighty six and in Manhattan Milton Hershey halts his horse and wagon outside a grocery store her she is a twenty eight year old you ate it was something you drank but that's all about to change this is episode one lollipops and shiny candied fruits. The storekeeper reaches for a Caramel but then there's a burst of noise from outside from wondering I'm David Brown and this is business worse and chocolate summer eighteen eighty six th rural Pennsylvania was under his horse are doubled over in laughter Hershey sinks to his knees and despair the it's the last straw our new series Hershey versus Mars we're unwrapping the sweetest business rivalry of all the battle to dominate the world's one hundred and forty billion double for business we know businesses changing fast people collaborate from the corner coffee shop to the corner office they take more calls from living rooms and lobby her she borrowed ten thousand dollars to buy the equipment to make the drops they didn't sell now he's back selling candy and wasn't making fancy display cabinets were prospecting for silver in Colorado but selling cough drops to New Yorkers eager to help his father find success cap in hand to start all over again support for business wars comes from tea every sale counts he retrieves a small basket from the back of his wagon and enter the store good afternoon sir a barrage of exploding firecrackers Hershey's horse when he's inferior Hershey races outside and sees his terrified horse Gal New York's beaten it's shoot him up and spat him out like gum it's time for her she to go crawling back to his mother's family coming down the street his wagons careening behind tossing his precious candies all around and across the street the kids who lit the firecracker in texting and over two hundred countries and destinations at no extra cost learn more at T. mobile dot com slash business please than conference rooms and cubicles and they travel all over the world to create things that never before existed that's why t mobile includes the storekeeper nods her she puts his basket on the counter insider bright yellow lemon drops warm brown caramel cubes grass green in dollar chocolate market. Today's mega industry is unrecognizable from the chocolate business of eighteen eighty six back then chocolate wasn't something not the storekeeper I am pleasure to meet you I'm Milton Hershey I'm a confectioner may I show you my candies a failed business he's determined to stay positive I'm putting New York behind me I'm starting a new business and you're what he's going to do next her she's just returned from New York he's broke and dodging debt collectors but despite the sting of yet another it's dinnertime and Milton Hershey is in the large farmhouse owned by his mother's family around the wooden dining table ours and uncles and they're waiting to hear other isn't involved no no I've learned my lesson I'll be keeping him out of my business from now on and Matty's heard that before but atty sits opposite she's wearing a black ankle length dress and a white bonnet and she looks concerned I pray your good for nothing is time Hershey means it her she sips his water and continues I'm going to make carols but not just any caramel when trail of failure in his wake for the first time in his life Hershey he's on his own he's going to have to start over from nothing suddenly he realizes how he looks to them now just like his old man the dreamer always chasing the big break in leaving then aunt mattie turns to Hershey no Milton not this time Hershey blinks in shock I one thing aunt Mattie steels herself she knows what's coming I just need a little rather than spoiling after a few days you know no one makes milk care moves in the east but I know people here will love them there's was in Denver with father a confectioner taught me how to make with milk instead of paraffin have you tried milk care models the uncle's Shakti spend the money as owners of the area's largest farm there well off and they've always helped him before the family glances at each other your head's they're so much better than normal camels their smooth and chewy and they don't stick in your teeth and they stay fresh for months over the next year Hershey knuckles down he rents a small room in a warehouse in Lancaster all money not much just a little to get me back on my feet nephew hundred dollars her she's optimistic his aunt and uncle's will a small town there's not enough demand deliver the prophets her she needs to cover as long as the repayment deadline approaches Hershey faces route profits to buy a pushcart and then he uses the extra sales to rent a larger space insider red brick factory as he toils sweat from his brow and knocking at the door he opens the door to find a well dressed Englishman in top hat good morning sir win again it's eight hundred eighty seven and in Lancaster Pennsylvania Hershey's cooking caramel inside his rented factory as he leans over a large copper pot stirring a bubbling mix of sugar and milk with a wooden paddle he pauses to wipe the are you Milton Hershey that's me most wonderful I an importer of goods to Britain scouting for products. I tried your character so her she can buy more equipment to increase production but Hirsch's overstretched himself his remotes are popular but Lancasters Selena informs the Lancaster Caramel company he walks the streets selling his cardinals to the town spoke from a basket the US relations with his family saw aunt Mattie at his mother help wrap his caramel in tissue paper then Aunt Mattie Guarantees Ninety Day bank loan several months at least I guess several months well that's welcome news welcome news indeed I would like to order twenty four hundred dollars inside is the check he's been waiting for her she leaps into the air yes he dances around the fact he's been selling small bags of Caramel for one set but with this one massive order for tens of thousands of Caramel he can his debts and start expanding beyond Lancaster her she accepts the order then he persuades the bank to extend at yesterday and I was most impressed to tell me how long do they keep not sure exactly longer than most because I make them we mill worth now if the first order is a success larger orders will follow I'll send a check once the order reaches London Hershey's jaw drops the cardinals in doesn't pay then one morning. The mailman delivers a letter from England her she tears it open Lisa loan he buys more supplies hires extra helpers and works around the clock to ship the Caramel to London on time and then he caramel smudged apron after that there's no stopping Hershey the expanse is product awaits but as the days pass doubts creep into his mind what if the importer was a con man what if he did caramel manufacturer in America it's 1893 and Hershey and his cousin hundred workers by the early eighteen ninety s Hershey is one of the richest men in Pennsylvania and the biggest exports them as far away as Japan and Australia he builds factories in Pennsylvania in Illinois within five years he's employing more than seven visiting the spectacular Chicago world's fair there in the machinery hall checking out the steam engines that power the entire fare along with the latest locomotives within her she notices something something unexpected a sweet fragrance cutting through the stench of oil that dominates the hall a Ridge for ten penny he flavors Caramel with cocoa powder and almond and creates black caramel colored. With soot he distributes his confections across the country range he makes square circular and bean shaped Karimov's he sells expensive whole milk caramel that cost a dollar box and sheep skim milk caramel that said select Sherie rarely seen outside Europe Hershey is awestruck he watches as the workers turn raw cacao beans into serfaty exotic sent with just a hint of fruity nece it's chocolate her she follows his nose to the source a fully functioning chocolate bar production line set up by a German equipment manufacturer people have been drinking chocolate for ready to eat chocolate emerge her she bites into a freshly made chocolate bar trees but chocolate you can eat is still a novelty the first chocolate bar debuted in England in eighteen forty seven but they remain in expense drian delight before racing out the door he runs toward the bank ready to cash the check in clear is back he's halfway there before he realizes he's still wearing his walks dark chocolate cocoa beans are loaded in roasting ovens before being cooled and hauled then bare ground and pressed into a gritty pain liquid chocolate after adding sugar vanilla and fatty cocoa butter chocolate is poured into molds once cooled dark slabs moment the fair ends by February eighteen ninety four per she's equipment is up and running he founds the Hershey chocolate people will eat chocolate every day fired up by the potential appeal of chocolate bars and the chance to rekindle his love of creating new confession British importer of his caramel drinks in hand the two men sink into expensive leather armchairs her she likes a cigar and asks the imports rainy and starts making dark chocolates shaped like gems flowers and cigarettes his chocolates make far less money than his caramel it's smooth bittersweet and absolutely delicious he closes his eyes and bliss chocolate melts on his tongue n- Cadbury's born Phil project difficult to say I have to applauded morally the Birmingham slums pauling place jury still out on changing Milton People here are losing interest in carols they want the new milk chocolate bars instead especially now that they're being made Britain Hershey raises an eyebrow I thought only the Swiss knew how to make milk chocolate not anymore the chocolate makers but her she doesn't care it's eighteen ninety eight and her she's in a London Club he opens his eyes and turns to his cousin Caramel or just a fad people only eat them as an occasional treat but chocolate requestion you've ordered fewer camels recently why is that the importer puts down his glass of brandy tastes is building a model factory in village near Birmingham a Utopian village called born Ville Hershey's intrigued say what do you think chocolate bar that only costs a nickel that'll be something as the friend searches for his next shot her she drops another bombshell. It's poured into a giant seashell shaped mixer inside the mixer marble rovers need the pace for hours massaging it into smooth brown in that case I say become the man who brings milk chocolate to America it's early nineteen hundred tall window overlooking the yard Hershey chalks his cue and delivered some shocking news I'm selling the Lancaster Caramel company John's her she decides he's going to make chocolate before leaving he buys the display equipment and arranges to have it shipped to his Lancaster factory it's just hills and cows have you lost your mind maybe but thing is I don't care about money look in keep dropping I can't stay afloat forever Am I correct things that no one makes us sales milk chocolate in America her she nods cycle to help you better understand how the world your work and your place in both are changing you've heard about quantum supremacy right as the computing break Hershey's friend freezes mid shot rarely why yes I'm going to use the money to build the biggest chocolate works this country the British chocolate giants been in the news recently it's owned by a quaker family that wants to improve its workers lives by helping them escape the slums to do that Cadbury I have more than I need I want to do something momentous what do you think seriously what I think Milton is a courtney ever seen it will make milk chocolate bars that will sell for a nickel and stores friend takes his shot and sinks a ball amid ear and figured out how Nestle does it cadbury started producing milk chocolate bars just last year her she sits up at the mention of Cadbury needs to appoint a guardian I mean do you even know how to make milk chocolate no but how hard can it be. Hershey is about to find out and he'll soon learned that it's way way harder than he ever imagined Billingham town is crazy enough but building it in rural Pennsylvania is even crazier Dauphin County Milton there's nothing there it's good business though I figured they give their workers cheap loans to buy houses and half days on Saturdays seems excessive well I think it's a wonderful idea I hope it works anyhow back to my what do you think I should do if sales okay so when I'm finding stories like these on one place I know courts is doing something unique when it comes to important valuable information ahead of everyone else insider remote barn with trespassers sign on the door Milton Hershey is burning the midnight oil he's trying to make milk chocolate Moscow going to build a town for my workers you know like born villain England but bigger out in Dauphin County Hershey's buddy puts down his cue one worker spits his piece into his hand the chocolates awful it tastes like spoiled milk and burnt sugar and it has the sent off your first year of membership with court's business wars is supported by wicks have you got a business that needs a professional website us food and inside his expensively decorated mansion in Lancaster Pennsylvania Hershey is playing pool with a buddy as his peacocks STRUT PAT VW for ten percent off any premium plan Out And with twenty four seven support you'll get all the help you need to do it right so if you're ready to boost your business do it with wicks and for listeners extra grit her she looks at his deflated team. 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The cocoa butter forms oily beads that float in the milk and even when Hershey and his team managed to force these unruly ingredients connect full of creative intelligent journalism courses that go to source for inspiration and understanding for the next generation of leaders who are willing to learn and the latest batch is ready tentatively Hershey and his small team remove the bars from the molds break off chunks and pop them into their mouths oh the secret aren't telling so her she must work it out through trial and error nights of experiments become weeks dynamite explosions blast open entire hills to provide limestone for the factory walls and just across Spring Creek bricklayers are building Gan powerful website that evolves with you that means you've got the tools you need to create managing grow your online presence right at your fingertips you can automate your workload together. The results are crumbly bars that turned rancid within two days before his plan to work her she needs to it's been two months since her she sold his caramel empire for a million bucks roughly thirty million dollars in today's money he's been trying to make milk chocolate ever story brick homes that have indoor plumbing and electricity railroad tracks sprout from the factory and snake through the hills to connect the town to the Wider Rail Net ben months and then years with online stores a booking system and an online invoice generator plus get the best seo email marketing and branding tools to make your business stand asked produce milk chocolate that stays fresh for months so it can be shipped nationwide he knows it's possible but the European companies that no okay chocolate and this rate he'll built a factory and a town for nothing it's falls Tom. Builders lay the foundations of his giant chocolate factory workers with shovels clear paths that will become streets in the distance sense but it's proving an uphill struggle because milk and chocolate or just like oil and water the water in the milk refuses to mix with chocolates fatty cocoa butter work the red brick factories to towering smokestacks rise from the ground but her she's still struggling to make the first houses in the months that follow the town of Hershey take shape unpaved paths become streets lined with spacious twos it's fall one thousand nine hundred and after dark in Dauphin County Pennsylvania awareness but her she doesn't care it's distinctive and it's his and since most Americans haven't eaten European chocolate his customers won't Care Gi smooth encouraged they use the condensed milk to make another batch of chocolate after cooling the chocolate they nervously take a bite this time the chocolate tastes smooth and creamy Hershey's eyes widen my to know where to start to find it that's why I love Quartz founded in twenty twelve for a new kind of business leader courts takes you outside the breaking news his Schmalbach has an idea Mr her she let me try something as her she watches hopefully Schmalbach snow. ooh That's been described as an accomplishment as big as what the Wright brothers did for air travel no you haven't heard about it well this is just one of many stories I discovered through quartz I'm John It's summer nineteen zero three in Dauphin County construction is underway on the twelve hundred acres Hershey bought for his chocolate town only evaporates milk in a copper kettle over low heat after a few hours they opened the kettle this time the condensed milk is silly undisputed chocolate king but money doesn't buy everything it's March nineteen fifteen and in a Philadelphia hotel her she kneels at his wife's bedside kitty is only forty three but her health has been declining for years and they're selling fast thanks to Hershey milk. Chocolate bars are no longer in exotic European luxury now almost every American builds a leisure park and a zoo he and his wife opened a residential school for orphan boys by nineteen ten Hershey is America's pain he sees kitties nurse standing at the door and there are tears in her eyes oil a year later he creates Hershey Almond bars by mixing almonds and chocolate a sales boom her she lavishes his prophets on the town he either by nineteen o five Hershey's five cent
From My Back Garden E505
"Hi It's blocking climate chipper Ireland with how quote audio clip. Five Oh five. Can hear these clips of you have a smart speaker. Just ask it for. topcoat audio clips on whatever. Use It on speaker. Host where I talk about it's a an APP and apply form, and what's handy about sleep speakers. It was doing for audio what Youtube just started doing for video on speaker. You can list chapters. Little time codes the Dan. Give you pictures of stuff. Select right now if you went. To spreaker APP. You could see an image that shows you where I am in the world. I'm Ireland's I grew up in America. I've kept the American accent. Although when I go back to where I were I hung out in Lancaster County. Pennsylvania I'm saying it wrong. That's Lancaster if you're from that area. They'd say have an I have an accent and everybody does. This. Is Audio move the month? Of June. Twenty twenty. It's a thirty day challenge something I never knew about when I first heard the concept spoken about probably ten years ago a challenge, so do the same thing for thirty days not bad habit serve easy to make if you can stick with doing the same thing for three weeks in a row, and there are psychologists say that so perhaps if you are interested in using your smartphone to share experiences or reflections every day of the month of June, you could hash tag your work audio. Then people might find you like me. Tomorrow? I'll tell you more about the cycle of my day. 'cause you can often learn more about somebody by what they do at different times of day and I'll share that I'll show that with you in my second audio clip of Twenty Twenty But for now if you want to learn more about me, Bernie, go back. Just use the word T.. O. P., G. O. L. D. in your browser to search, and you'll land on a lot of things. I've done so for example it may take you over to. Twitter or over a to instagram can see images of a lot of things of my life or My take you deeper in stuff. I've written. And wished I hadn't for now I'll just say thanks. Ernie earn manager for sticking with the concept of audio, and for anyone who happens to listen to this you want to connect. Well. You know how to do it. You can shout out you can tag can use the at sign. But Yet Pick up the phone or using old Mike. And share some of your life. Audio Mo-. Twenty twenty. By for now.
From Here To Eternity (1953)
"I'm Max Baril and this is classic movie musts Wherever Week. We breakdown a classic movie. We while looking to provide artistic insight and historical context at the very least. We'll talk about what makes these movies classics. Classic movie must release his every Friday ready to complement your weekend movie viewing plans. Thank you for joining me this week as we discuss from here to eternity this week's film. Kim was selected by our Patriot community in our monthly movie. Poll voting in our monthly poll is a perk available to all one dollars patrons hatreds so if you head on over to Patriot Dot com slash classic movie. Must you can help decide what movies we talk about on the show in this episode in our feature presentation we'll discuss the diverse and complex performances in from here to eternity we'll hear some tales regarding that infamous kiss in the surf during our buzz. The back lot segment but first. Let's get into this week's opening credits are this week is from here to eternity which was directed by Fred Zinnemann and was released in one thousand nine hundred fifty three from here to eternity stars. Burt Lancaster Montgomery clift Deborah. Kerr Frank Sinatra and Donna Reed in nineteen forty one bugler and career soldier a private Robert e Lee pruitt play by Montgomery clift transfers to a rifle company at schofield barracks on the island of war. Who Captain Dana Dynamite? Dynamite homes has heard. He is a talented middleweight boxer and wants to join his regimental team to secure promotion for himself PRUITT refuses having stopped fighting because he blinded his sparring partner and close friend over a year before homes makes life as miserable as possible for pruitt hoping hoping that he will change his mind and then orders. First Sergeant Milton warden played by Burt Lancaster. To prepare general court martial papers. After Sergeant Galvanic galvanic first insults PRUITT and then gives him an unreasonable order that pruitt refuses to obey ward in suggests however that he will try tried to get Pruitt to change his mind by doubling up on company punishment. The other noncommissioned officers join the hazing and PRUITT is supported only by his close friend friend. Private Angelo Maggio play by Frank Sinatra. Meanwhile warden at the risk of a prison sentence begins an affair with homes as neglected wife. Karen played by Deborah Kerr. Sergeant Malines. Stark has told warden about Karen's many previous fares at Fort Bliss including with himself health ward and ask Karen about her affairs to test. Her sincerity and Karen relates. That homes has been unfaithful to hurt for most of their marriage. She miscarried one night. When Holmes returned home from seeing a hat check girl drunk and unable to call the doctor rendering her barren she then affirms her love for Warden and tells him that if he became an officer she could divorce Holmes and Mary Him Warden reluctantly agrees to consider it? PRUITT and Maggio spend their liberty the at the new Congress Club a Gentlemen's Club where pruitt falls for a girl named Laureen played by Donna. Reed she wants to marry a proper man with a proper job and live a proper life. Majo- Staff Sergeant. James R Judson nearly come to blows at the club over Judson loud piano playing later later Judson Provokes Maggio by taking his photograph of his sister from him and kissing it and then whispering improves ear. Maja smashes Barstool over jetsons head juts. That's in pulls a switchblade but then warden intervenes Johnson backs down but warns Majuro. That sooner or later he will end up in the stockade where Judson is in charge urge during a weekend liberty while pruitt is with laurine at the new Congress. Club Maja walks in drunk and in uniform having deserted his post the military leterrier police arrest Maggio and he is sentenced to six months. In the stockade. Sergeant Galvin later picks a fight with pruitt while he is on detail and a crowd gathers others as the to start fighting at first PRUITT as resorts only two body blows and then pulling his punches but his fighting spirit reemerges and he comes close to knocking Galvin salvage out before Holmes who had been watching for some time outside the crowd finally steps in and stops the fight. The entire incident is witnessed by the base commander who orders an investigation by the inspector general. When the truth about homes is revealed to the commander he orders a court martial but when Holmes begs for an alternative and AIDS aide suggests that Holmes resigned his commission? The commander accepts the suggestion and orders homes resignation within the hour. Majuro escapes from the stockade. And after telling of the abuse he suffered at jetsons hands dies in PRUITT's arms after tearfully playing taps in tribute to his friend Pruitt Hunts Judson down and kills him with the same switchblade. Judson pulled Majuro earlier but in doing so sustained a serious stomach wound and he goes into hiding Lorraine's house. The military military is caught completely by surprise on Sunday morning. When the Japanese commence a predawn attack on Pearl Harbor Against Lorraine's wishes pruitt attempts to rejoin his company under the cover of darkness but is shot dead by a patrol guarding against possible saboteurs warrant sadly notes? The irony of the boxing tournament being cancelled because of the attack when Karen finds out that warden never applied for officer training. She realizes they have no future together and regretfully sales back to the the mainland with her husband on board the ship. LLERENA and Karen meet and Laurine says that her fiance named Pruitt was a bomber pilot. who was her ROIC killed? During the attack Karen recognizes pruitt's name but says nothing from here to eternity had a budget of just under two million dollars in a box office total of thirty thirty million dollars adjusted for inflation. That's a budget of just over. Nineteen million box office hall of two hundred eighty nine million from here to eternity was nominated emanating for Thirteen Academy Awards winning eight. It was nominated for the awards for best score. Best Costume design. Best Actress for Deborah Kerr and best actors for both Burt Lancaster and Montgomery clift. It won the awards for best sound recording. Best film editing. Best Cinematography best supporting actress for Donna Reed. Best supporting actor for Frank Sinatra best writing best director for Fred Cinnamon and Best Picture. Now nobody ever lies about being lonely and it's time for our feature presentation. Are you looking for a double dose of Classic Movie. must in your week. Then check out. Our patriotic exclusive lucid show. Classic Movie Must Double Feature. The show costs one dollar per month and releases every Tuesday to all patriots subscribers. That's four episodes per her month for just one dollar. The show is the same structure as normal show but for movies released from the year. Two thousand to the present and that I believe are destined to go down in the film books as classics. If you join right now not only do you get access to this week's episode on no country for old men you also get the entire archive type of past double feature episodes so for as little as twelve dollars per year you can help keep classic movie must running and get to double the amount of classic take movie must content in your podcast feed. We've also got a brand new show called maxes movie. Must that's also exclusive on patriotic. Where where you can hear my top five films for all sorts of listener supplied topics you can read all about Max's movie must as well L. is get your exclusive access to classic movie must double feature over at Patriot Dot com slash classic movie musts? There's so many ways to to approach from here to eternity. And what makes it a classic film so much so that I want to discuss two very different aspects of the film. I being the artistic side of the film and its powerful performances but as I said at the start of every episode I hope to provide historical context context as well as artistic insight and this film's historical. Context is also tremendously fascinating. But first let's discuss performance formats much of what makes from here to eternity such a powerful film. It's ability to balance so many different storylines each of them resonant resonant with deep human emotion brought to life by fantastic performances as a whole friends movies offer. Hollywood big big studio classicism meticulous craft put to the service of telling large scale popular stories with clarity and feeling feeling tempered by unusual restraint and touched unexpectedly by the poetic but in the years during which Zimin came to prominence. Hollywood was undergoing change. It was the exciting post World War. Two era when Hollywood movies acquired a startling new vibrancy after some cheery fakeness of the mid forties. And what brought this vibrancy well. A new generation of extremely talented actors Zimin was fascinated by the youngsters trained in the method school of acting by people like Lee Strasberg Stella Adler and Elliott Kazan specifically. He was fascinated by Montgomery clift whom he directed in the search in nineteen forty eight and and from here to eternity in nineteen fifty three. What is amazing? About Zimmerman's best movies is the variety of acting styles. They show off off the way. Actors of contrasting background and with contrasting approaches are able to play off each other like gifted musicians musicians from different generations and milieu thrown together in a pickup band in from here to eternity method trained Montgomery clift pals around with pop singer Frank Sinatra his first dramatic role and is romantically paired with Donna Reed. A contract player layer since the forties whose wholesomeness covered a weird norrish intensity and a capacity for sudden high pitched emotion. Frank CAPRA had touched on both in. It's a wonderful life seven years earlier in the same movie. Burt Lancaster. Both tough-guy actor actor in the Cagney. Robinson bogart mold and a flamboyantly physical performer in the Douglas Fairbanks Errol Flynn. Mold is matched watched with the Scottish. Born Deborah Kerr a classically trained dancer and stage actress whose air of breeding bought her. A Hollywood would contract in the late forties but Zimmerman located a neurotic quality incur. That no one else had seemed interested in as Karen homes in from here to eternity the captain's wife who has an affair with an enlisted man. The company's top kick Sergeant Milt Warton Morton played by Lancaster in the months leading to Pearl Harbor. She shows more sides than in any previous performance warden. Ordon is drawn to her aura of sexual availability to her. Wised up tough blonde presence. He begins insinuating the moment they meet and he has the nerve to drive to her house in the rain when he knows her husband isn't home. Ostensibly with papers for him to sign and to push push his way into her kitchen to produce himself a drink she commends him on his ingenuity but admonishes him she says you just got one thing wrong. The lady herself the ladies not what she seems. That's the key line for Kerr's performance commits Lana Turner specialized in roles. Like this one seems to be street. SMART sexually. Direct women compensating for loneliness or poverty Birdie and Barbara Stanwick was brilliant in them years earlier but Karen Holmes carries as much baggage as any of those characters did a careless unfaithful husband a dead child. She has nothing like their knife. Edged danger her style is just A defense barely covering raw nerves by the time warden arise for their first date. She is a jumble of conflicting impulses like frayed wires. When she unloads on him three men have tried to pick her up? She feels cheap. She imagines he's decided. This is a lousy Housi- idea and maybe she should just go home. He has to jump to avoid the loose sparks. Kurt uses the hard ours. She has adopted to blanket over her Scott Tinged English accent and the cigarettes she pulls on to suggest the tough shell that shatters from from the inside every time warden gets near her we see what she is really like when they are at a club together listening to music sick and she strokes his clenched hand. Draws it around. Her shoulder kisses his knuckles nestles into his shoulder. Her lovemaking with Lancaster's Lancasters milt warden here and in the justly famous beach scene is urgent and fugitive a lifeline for her character actor Kerr's opposite number in from here to eternity is the dark beauty. Donna Reed who plays all must slash laurine the working class woman coming from Oregon who landed in Hawaii and took a job as a hostess at the new Congress Club where her name picked from perfume and because her employer. I thought it sounded French. Suits her slightly exotic print sesa looks and her slightly Languid Reticent Air of course in James Jones's novel which the film is based she is a prostitute but the hays code was still in effect when the movie came out and leave needless is to say she's referred to as a hostess almost doesn't drink and she's got a vocabulary. She holds her cigarette. Like a debutante and leaves in a fashionable district of town with a girlfriend but underneath high-society affect which doesn't seem like one because she believes it it's so fervently is a woman who is desperate for respectability and at the same time desperately in love with pruitt. Montgomery Marie clift the career soldier. Who represents everything? She thinks. She doesn't want everything that's low class. He is drawn to her sensitivity sensitivity which we see in her silent touched response to his story about the boxing opponent. He beat into blindness. The reason pruitt swears he he will never fight again that sensitivity can take her all the way into hysteria in moments of high emotion. Like the scene where she tries uselessly to keep him from crawling back to his company after he has gone Awol and as the Japanese bombs fall. Her face begins to melt and her delicate poise poise. Absolutely crumbles from here to eternity is a men at war saga. Even though the war doesn't get going going until the last real probably the best to come out of the big studio era and the two women are by convention. On the periphery. Ah The main theme. which is read it Integrity Karen and almost love for their respective men takes them over the edge but put on some essential level? They do not understand what those men are about. Karen begs milt to take officer exams so that she can in divorce homes and marry him but he hates officers and he just cannot get himself to sign the papers. All my argues that the army she has never done pru anything but damage. She doesn't see why he was so loyal to it. It's only at the end in each woman's final scene with her lover that they recognize these men are in love with something they can never rest them away from appropriately. The last time we see the two women women they are standing side by side on the ship that takes them away from Pearl Harbor forever. This scene the movie's finale really belongs longs to Donna Reed. The women who have never met before strike up a conversation and almost tells Karen that her fiance was a bomber pilot who died died in the first strike the son of a fine southern family Robert e Lee Pruitt. There is something disturbing about Almas Amazon fiction. Just as there was about her hysteria with Pruitt in the blackout. A few moments earlier reed's suggestion of instability ability undercuts what may have been intended as a sentimental ending. Both of Kerr's films for cinnamon came out in the last decade or so in which the weight of the Production Code could still be felt in Hollywood though it was still being tested with greater regularity and there is a sexual frankness in the depiction of Karen Holmes Adulterous Romance with milt warden with Karen and warden. You feel feel the pull of sexual feelings that battle against reason. And certainly against practicality Zimin has cast Kerr opposite a sexy a highly athletic American personality actor who communicates emotion in more straightforward and less delicate ways. He's than she does be burt. Lancaster looks tight and fit in his military garb. In from here to eternity much of the pleasure of watching Lancaster Astor at this stage in his career and movies like this one and the Crimson pirate and the rainmaker and trapeze comes from the great shape. He's in and his witty eighty presentation of it. The fact that he looks like a walking erection is a great joke in from here to eternity where he is Kerr Kerr with unmistakable lasciviousness the first time he sees her and where his character has mastered a crude but shrewd kind of sexual Innuendo Wendo. He employs his whole body all the time in this role like a dancer or a triathlete he moves serenely and he is is beautiful in repose when Warren Get smashed his body stiffens and he drags it around as if it were made of cardboard. He is a cartoon tune of a drunken soldier. This is very inventive. Physical acting of course Lancaster's performance is into primarily comic comic. What sticks with you is the amount of emotion that he is able to get across in an almost completely physical way? You can recognize the source source of wardens tough Guy Bravado and permanent state of physical readiness in Lancaster's forties film war roles wardens lineage. Edge goes back even farther to the wisecracking macho posturing of those too hard nuts court and flag in the much filmed world war one stage stage classic. What price glory in from here to Eternity Lancaster cinnamon work on exposing the sensitive parts of this kind of man whose home is the army? Zinnemann doesn't exactly stretches star the actor and the director find ways of releasing wardens sensitivity in straight Arrow ways. That seem perfectly in concert with his style. For instance he's befuddle meant and exasperation when when he finds himself so deeply in love with Karen that rather than being contemptuous of her reputation for promiscuity that he's wrecked by it or his steady man-to-man admiration for the newcomer to the company PRUITT WHO's constitutional inability to compromise. His Principles Burns him the unofficial post of the captain's whipping boy Zimmerman was smart not to try and soften Lancaster especially since Montgomery Gumri clift giving a legendary performance representing the actors studio contingent has this sensitive child in the man type role. The third major male actor and from here to eternity is of course Frank Sinatra as PRUITT's luckless buddy Angelo Majuro watching Sinatra who who brings a kibitzing hoboken energy and a touch of Damon Runyon into his touching clown role. You cannot help thinking of the scene scene in the godfather when the Sinatra Character Johnny Fontaine played by Al Martino begs. Brando's Don Corleone to help get him the movie part. He's been after to resuscitate his fading career as in fact from here to eternity did for Sinatra apart. He knows he'd be great for four because he's a character just like me. The beauty of Sinatra's acting here is that it is easy and natural as his conversational national singing style. His lines are mostly gags and you wonder if he fought some of them up himself. This is the best kind of typecasting getting it. Locates the area where the actor and the role overlap and then allows him to sink into the role so that the performance deepens without your being aware of it sometime in the middle of the picture magic gets himself arrested for sneaking off guard duty and the stockade Sergeant Fatso Judson played by Ernest this Borgnine an old enemy from barroom brawl brutalizes him repeatedly one of the best examples of cinemas hallmark restraint is his refusal to show us the beatings in one of the movies. Best known scenes Ma- Joe Having managed to escape from the stockade dies improves arms. This is Sinatra is big scene and it's an extension of the loose limpid acting. He has been doing all along but it so startlingly good it knocks you throughout the whispered repeated warning to pruitt watch out for Fatso. Watch out for. Fatso is soft talk bedtime. Talk as if Angelo were merely drifting off to sleep. He tip toes to his death leaving a silence behind him a commemorative moment to Acknowledge College. The whole that Matteo's departure leaves in the fabric of Zimmerman's terrific movie looking at these performances in from here to eternity we can identify the kind of emotional tension. That Zimin favors and works toward again and again. But in terms of actors he is Hollywood's Great Democrat. Few filmmakers have gone so far with so many kinds of performers but now that we've discussed the artistic side of the film. I'd like to pivot fit to the historical context of the film specifically how it had to deal with various types of censorship issues during the nineteen thirties and early nineteen gene forties. Hollywood specialize in high profile historical films and war epochs but after Pearl Harbor the studios gave up major American historical productions for contemporary war films such as across the Pacific so proudly we hail and objective Burma films that relied increasingly on a sense of immediacy a borrowed documentary aesthetic and realistic violence. The relationship between the studios and the Federal Government was necessarily close during World War. Two the office of war information established in June of nineteen forty two was essentially a centralized propaganda agency that liaised with the studios in exchange for supporting the armed forces and the government in an unequivocal way. A Hollywood received massive foreign distribution rights. When Harry Cohn Head of Columbia Pictures Pay James Jones? Eighty two thousand dollars for the film film rights to from here to eternity. His decision signaled a return to the old style. War Films Made in the Nineteen Thirties when the studios routinely unle paid high prices for the rights to best selling memoirs historical novels and other presold material unlike the modern war features features produced during the time of US combat involvement which were frequently based on. Cheap original scripts churned out by studio writers from here to Eternity Turnkey was intended as a major prestige production. It was based on a historical novel published ten years after Pearl Harbor and the accuracy. The of its historical content would prove to be the major source of contention in terms of censorship and army cooperation to make from here to eternity attorney cone had to enter into censorship negotiations unlike any faced before by Hollywood studios even though the office of more information or the Owi had effectively been disbanded after the war. Filmmakers still had to handle the armed forces carefully if the film in any way remained faithful to the novel it promised to revise the heroic war genre from here to eternity was a turning point in the world war or to film genre for another reason as well although films made about the Pacific campaigns began to document World War Two events with more historical text text toward the end of the nineteen forties. It was not until nineteen fifty three and from here to eternity that Hollywood really looked at World War Two as a finite finite historical era. Perhaps it was partially because America was involved in another war in the Pacific. This time in Korea but from here here to eternity certainly did not supply a good war alternative to the increasingly unpopular stalemate in Korea instead the film makes military apathy and incompetence of feature of World War. Two's historical context with from here to eternity. Restrictions were dictated from the outside with the shift to an American theme in from here to eternity. Historical material became a matter of national concern or less ambiguously Esley of national censorship it was not however the Pearl Harbor attack substantiated in the film with original wartime footage as a historical Michael Reminder. That was at issue a dozen years after the fact but the status of the American army from here to eternity published in one thousand nine fifty one as the book had been a controversial novel. The author James Jones had been stationed in Hawaii and laid certain claim to authenticity. When screenwriter screenwriter Daniel Tarnish and Fred Zinnemann approached the novel to major sensors were actively involved the Breen Office and the Department of Defense Offense? The conflict was twofold on the one side. Were the moral issues prostitution and adultery on the other the harsh criticism of the leadership leadership of the American army. Thin ice for a studio in the McCarthy period Zimmerman's course was toward cooperation with the US army because because it would allow him to use original locations and obtain factual information. The army agreed but the cooperation was a reluctant one. The Department Department of Defense and the army voiced objections to the treatment in the military prison and other parts of the script. They demanded changes before granting ranting the approval sought by Columbia Pictures. Boss Harry Cohn and Zimin their recommendations were discussed with Daniel Tarnish and producer. Buddy Adler one of the suggestions was to use a different title for the film in order to avoid an immediate connection with the well no novel. This feeble attempt at censorship confirmed the status of the novel as no mere fiction but as a work critical of the American military. The department's wanted Fatso brutality. To be personal not representative of the stockade and its use of corporal punishment. In general in the film the Interior of the stockade was not shown but there's omission was compensated for by the death of Majuro who survived the ill-treatment in the novel. Furthermore the suggestion was made to have pruitt killed heeled bullets from a Japanese plane but producer Adler and tarnish rejected the proposal. The humanely they said quote this we felt was a typical a Hollywood ending and had absolutely no meaning at all. The parties agreed on Pruitt being without uniform when he is shot by American. NP's a further recommendation was related to captain homes. The commanding officer of the unit. Who in the novel is promoted to the rank of major in another company? The departments wanted homes to receive punishment not reassignment and promotion for his incompetence this requirement meant turning the whole film around around. The army said quote. No way he has either the choice to resign or be court martialed Zinnemann gave in. And in the Phil homes resigns. The positive image of the American officer is restored. The implications of the novel had led to the belief that its narrative and characters were a threat to the army's Army's public image and alterations to the film were made accordingly. Whether or not that compromise which wasn't a happy one was nevertheless worthwhile. Weil is debatable. But the changes in the screenplay enabled cinnamon to realize some of his own choices. He could film the original show Phil Barracks and use a put tune of military policeman. Who looked and marched like soldiers not like extras? The army's dissatisfaction reveals the ideological atmosphere sphere of the time and explains why from here to eternity was received as critical film despite its censorship showing conditions in the United States Army as far from ideal and at times downright brutal amounting to an anti military statement that was very daring for its time period period in four grounding the myth in drawing attention to the discrepancy between popular views of American militarism hero wisdom and World War Two James James Jones and Columbia's filmmakers did what other historical novelists and filmmakers before them had done only rarely confronted the process by which rich Americans reconstruct a mythic past. Now it's time for the back lot segment and this week we've got a mix of fact and legend. The title phrase comes originally from Rude Yard kipling's Eighteen Ninety Ninety two poem gentlemen rankers about the soldiers from the British Empire who had quote lost their way. And we're damned from here to eternity. Montgomery clift threw himself into the character of pruitt learning to play the Bugle even though he knew he'd be dubbed and by taking boxing lessons Fred Zinnemann said Said clift forced the other actors to be much better than they really were. That's the only way I can put it. He got performances from the other actors. He got reactions actions from the other actors that were totally genuine. Montgomery clift didn't manage to move like a boxer despite extensive boxing lessons so he had had to be doubled by a real boxer for the long shots in the boxing match. The fight had to be carefully edited so that the close ups and other shots matched satisfactorily. The less the use of the double is obvious. If you pay attention to the details Montgomery clift Frank Sinatra author. James Jones were very close during the filming filming frequently embarking on monumental drinking binges clift coach Sinatra on how to play GIO during their more sober moments for which Sinatra was eternally grateful. The scene in which module meets prue and Laureen in the bar after he walks off guard. Duty was actually frank. Sinatra's screen test for the part of Majuro to impress director cinnamon. He didn't Ad-lib using the olives. As dice pretending to shoot craps the entire sequence was kept as is his and is used in the final picture and urban myth regarding the casting of Frank Sinatra was that the mafia made Columbia pictures an offer they couldn't refuse. This of course was fictionalized in Mario Puzo novel the Godfather and its subsequent film adaptation. The real reason for Sinatra's casting was mainly his then wife life if a gardener who was shooting a film for Columbia head Harry Cohn and suggested to him that he used Sinatra although initially reluctant corn going eventually saw this as being a good idea as Sinatra's stock was so low at the time that he could sign him for a very low salary Sinatra had been. Lobbying ain't hard for the role even suggesting he would do it for free but he was eventually hired for the token amount of eight thousand dollars in the scene where Burt Lancaster and Montgomery clift play. Play drunk sitting on the street. CLIFT was actually drunk but Lancaster was not joan. Crawford was originally meant to play Karen homes but when she insisted on shooting the film with her own cameraman the studio balked. They decided to take a chance. Cast Deborah Kerr who then was struggling with her lady like stereotype to play the adulterous. I military wife. WHO has an affair with Burt Lancaster? The casting worked and Deborah Kerr's career thereafter enjoyed a new sexier versatility. The now classic seem in between Burt. Lancaster and Deborah Kerr in the rushing water on the beach was not written to take place there. The idea to fill with the waves hitting them was a last minute inspiration. Ration- from Director Fred Zinnemann and lastly the a band photos of the famous. Burt Lancaster Deborah Kerr passionate kiss on the beach for being too erotic. Many prints had shortened versions of the scene because protectionists would cut out frames to keep as souvenirs the years that concludes our episode on from here to eternity. I would love to hear what you think of this. Classic Movie Must Feel Free To tweet at movie must pot or e Mail classic movie must at G Mail Dot Com. You can listen to all our episodes sewed and learn more about the show on our website. Classic Movie Must Dot Com. You can support the showing it. Access to our weekly exclusive episodes. 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All Aboard The Bankmobile!
"Some sitting in a small Bank branch out in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. It's a very typical Bank branch. There's a desk with smiling teller, really plain gray, carpet, florescent lighting overhead. Here's a table with little brochures and free lollipops got out of the free. Lockout have the free law. I mean, that's the only reason I go to the Bank. The thing that is different about this Bank different than any other Bank branch, you've likely ever been in say see is that it is barreling down the road at forty five miles an hour. It's just like driving a boat. But instead of in the water, obviously, you're on the road. That's Brennan on her. He's the security guard slash driver here at the Bank of burden hand, it's a small community Bank based in the town of burden hand, Pennsylvania, and we are speeding along in what he refers to as the mobile banking unit. But what I insist on calling the Bank mobile gotta call it. The Bank mobile to the Bank mobile mobile wide turns you're not slowing down very quickly. You're not drag racing. Anybody slow and steady wins a race. I guess to paint a picture. This is a twenty nine foot long van about the size of a large RV and its model out to be a full service Bank branch on the inside. There's an office area. With desks and computers where you can sit down with the banker and opening account or go over loan agreement. It's got to walk up teller window for making deposits and cashing checks. It is even got an ATM, and if full bathroom there was a lot of customers couldn't reach us. So the idea came about well, maybe we could get to them. Jennifer Halligan is the chief financial officer here at the Bank of burden hand. And she says that the banks to brick and mortar locations, they just weren't cutting it that was birth of the idea of let's see if we can actually put a Bank branch on wheels and go out there and reach those customers that couldn't reach us. And the reason that the banks customers were having trouble reaching them. Well, most of them commute by horse and buggy that is because the Bank of burden hand serves Lancaster county sizable Amish community, and because of the Amish communities, cultural and religious beliefs. They don't generally have electrobi- in their homes, and they tend to limit their use of phones and automobiles and that means that accessing banking. Services can be really complicated. I'm Stacey Mannix myth, and I'm Darius RAFI on. This is the indicator from planet money today on the show, how one Bank gave a whole new meaning to the term mobile banking, and how the Bank on wheels model is changing the way people access financial services are beyond Amish country. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from SAP. Concur employees can submit expenses from anywhere. It's how the best run businesses make their expenses run better SAP. Concur. Learn more at concur dot com slash NPR. Support also comes from capital. One capital. One's indicator is zero because they offer accounts with zero fees or minimums, and they offer accounts that can be opened from anywhere in five minutes. Capital one. What's in your wallet capital? One in a. Just four nine AM. We pulled up at our first stop of the day, the parking lot of a milking equipment wholesaler. And it's it's on the side of this two lane. Highway giant eighteen Wheeler trucks are zooming by the Bank mobile is rocking back and forth. Each time just above the din of the traffic can make out the sound. Of course. I was always visioned for thank closer. John stoltzfus is a member of the local Amish community, he's wearing wide-brimmed straw hat. He's a long grey beard extending from under his chin when a HUD. This is common here. I said on starting the count here. And I'm going to tell them here to do. My Bank John's here today to make deposit. He's a dog breeder. And when he sells his puppies. It's pretty much entirely a cash business, and it used to be that he'd have to bring all that cash into town to make a deposit. How long would it take you to get there of a tight my team? We takes about an hour and a half. If I get our driver. I think go come back, you know, but I don't like to always begin drivers. Right. Take my tea. That's horses will Horsham vogue. In a lot of ways. Of course, the Bank of burden hand is frozen in time. Most of the transactions here are done the way, you know, banking transactions all used to be done face to face and partially. That's because of the unique challenges associated with banking with this particular community, the Amish they don't generally have credit history. They don't buy traditional insurance. They don't have driver's licenses. They basically don't use credit or debit cards at all. So that means it's important for lenders here at the Bank to forge personal connections with their customers. So they get to know your extended family, they'll accept church membership rolls as a form of identification. They'll come out personally and visit your farm or your store off you are willing to work a little bit. What was John's oke runs a small farm here? In Lancaster county is about two thousand chickens dabbles a little produce. He's at the Bank mobile today to open a count. He is already accustomed another local Bank. But its way out in Corey Ville. I don't have times on the quiet role. Time. And when it gets expensive with a tax for me to one out there every week. So I was kind of looking for something in there. You know, I was really tickled when this started on top of the logistical challenges of just getting to the Bank. John says his old Bank just wasn't well equipped to serve his needs. I was not able to get a lot of credit up there for overdraft protection. Told me on the on real estate to get him. I don't have it. I mean, I finally come on. They will let the Amish community of Lancaster, Pennsylvania is a unique case it has its own unique challenges, it's not exactly Representative of most people's experience. But the underlying problem of a community being underserved by the financial industry that is actually really common the FDIC the federal deposit insurance corporation. They estimate that fourteen million American households are completely on banked. Don't have a Bank account at all and many millions more are under banked and believe it or not this Bank on wheels model is actually increasingly being used to reach those underserved communities, dozens of banks and credit unions across the US have rolled out their own mobile branches Wells Fargo and SunTrust both sent out mobile units to serve customers in the aftermath of hurricanes. The Royal Bank of Scotland has a whole fleet of banks on wheels that go all over the Scottish. Highlands and other rural areas. This model has also been used in places like Ghana and Oman. Where large swaths of the population are totally disengaged from the financial system as banking technology continues to hurdle into the future and electron IQ banking becomes the go-to way for most people to access banking services. It's really easy to forget that there are huge chunks of the population that are completely getting left behind. And maybe that's because they live in rural areas, or they don't have access to the internet, whatever the reason is and for those communities the current infrastructure of the financial system, it's just not working Jennifer Halligan, the CFO of burden hand says driving a fourteen thousand pound Bank on wheels out into the countryside might seem a little strange. But in fact, it is helping to solve this very problem the mobile app and internet banking is totally the wave of the future for, you know, most Americans, but for our clientele this makes much more sense. And from what I see. It seems to be working here at the Bank mobile. A little crowd is gathered. They're all chatting in Pennsylvania. Dutch waiting for the ATM. Little kids are running around in their straw, hats and their bonnets eating the free lollipops. They got from the Bank tellers I caught back up with John Zuk right after he the guy who's trying to open in account. Yeah. He'd just finalized his new accounts. And he said it went really well success. That's gonna work out. Pretty good. I think come up here on Tuesdays and deposit checks on my home. I gotta say as weird is this idea. Sounds it does seem to be one way to plug some of the gaps in the financial system to to catch some of those people that fell through the cracks. So, you know, like, maybe we'll see more Bank mobiles on the road. We can only hope, you know, watch out for white turns.
Thanking @ernmander @sm2n @firemanrich E513
"Uh! I-IT SPRINGBOK! It's topcoat audio clip five one three. On the ninth of June twenty twenty, audio Mohsen full swing and I. WanNa thank three people. I is earned mander. Ernie thanks for setting up audio ten years ago. I have connected with dozens of people, some of whom aren't on the audio platform because I would have met them with your boo or some other system ten years ago. I'm curious about them, but. Thanks to audio can hear some of their voices again. Do Simon tune make sure heck hooking up with me electronically, and then for inspiring ruth and I to go to the south of England. Years Ago I was audio mode number five. And we walked the southern shore of England. Because you and you were talking about what it was like to be down in that area, so we spent a week. In a trailer in a mobile home and really enjoyed it. I'd I know that we're doing at home Simon similar which you in Rian Yana and Amelia are enjoying in England because the kids are about the same age. And for you farm enrich. Who may not hear this unless I tag you which I will do on twitter. al-Sharah an image with this piece of audio that reminds me of where I grew up in Lancaster Pennsylvania a couple of hundred miles south. The probably were you shot this picture out I. Think out of Your Back Garden, looking towards a Cornfield I grew up among cornfields and hearing. You talk about them and living among them. Makes my day brings back a good memory, even though I know, it would bring back the humidity, the mosquitoes and the sweat that I could never keep out of my eyes. So view three Lads Ernie. Simon. Enrich. Thanks for making audio memories work. It's the of reflection I. enjoy getting. Giving to myself through the stuff you given to me. When audio? He can find more of my memories, but looking up the word top gold when good social networks that's where I live, that's the handle I. Have Online by for now.
Game of Thrones Re-Watch | Season 5, Ep #8: Hardhome
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You know, I don't know is that is that is that a such a wild tape that this is the single best half hour uninterrupted sequence of game of thrones. I don't think that you could say hard home is the best episode of game of thrones. Because there's other stuff that while not bad. Just isn't quite as exciting as the hard home sequence itself, but the whole structure of the heart. It reminds me of like aliens where you're invested in so many different characters who who you're getting to meet and you get to like the first big action scene of aliens. And like seventy percent of the people that you've met in that you've started to enjoy are just like totally wiped out on ceremoniously in such an incredible action sequence. It's kind of hard home in a nutshell heart homes like game of thrones is thirty minute distillation of aliens aliens is one of my favorite movies of all time. So I'm inclined to really left this episode. Yeah, I think there are not many uninterrupted, you know, half hour sequences that you could even put that in the conversation. So I think that's sort of the cheat code. Owed on that that hot take that heartache what about the purple wedding, purple wedding, his very very, very good. It's very different very different very different. I think that this this. You know, it's going to be interesting when we get to battle with the bastards, and we compare the action in hard home versus the action of battle the bastards once again directed by Miguel potch, Nick so some continuity there, but even thinking back to to blackwater just some of the things that you see in this episode in the way that the action is rendered is just so lights out. It's just so fricking good. If you're if you're to compare, you know game of thrones sequences like extended sequences of the show, this has to be in the conversation for one of the best weather you want to say it's better than the purple wedding or the red wedding sequence itself. The light of the seven sequence it's coming up at the season six finale, I think that is one of the standout moments of the entire show. But through this point of the rewatch, maybe just a sign that game of thrones just building on itself when you when you get to this moment in season five and all hell breaks loose. And you see the night king and action for the first time second time overall. It's just such an electric moment that really almost a racing. Everything else that you've gotten to. It's like now, you're really reminded of what the true stakes are here in this world of ice and fire that it doesn't matter. What's going on in king's landing? It doesn't matter. Who's vying for the thrown down there, it really only matters about the king and the north and I'm not talking about John. I'm talking about the night king. So I love it. I just think I think it's so great and season five continuing to defy expectations for me here on the rewatch. Okay. So let's see get into everything from this episode. Of course, the whole second half the episode is going to be everything going on at hard home. But we do a lot of big stuff going on here. Especially in The Danny storyline where Danny and Tyrian Lancaster, really talk things through a number of times in this episode. They're getting to know each other. You know, it's a it's a fun. Meet not so cute. You know, there's some there's some cute moments in here. But it's really it's like meet business. I guess that's called a business meeting, and there's sort of talking things through about why are you here? You know, what do you have to offer? And I guess tearing is trying to sell the any on the idea that he should be an adviser for her campaign, but it's a very soft cell. Well, I think that he is he's being buried Tyrian Lancaster here. And he's kind of he is of the mind at least when we meet him in the beginning of this season of you know, what just kill me. Let me die. I'm going to drink myself to death. I've got nothing to live for anymore. And then various gives him this intriguing idea of don't you want to at least meet deniro star, Gary and don't you want to see some dragons in person? This is something that could potentially happen for you interiors. Like all right as long as I can drink on the way. So he's already kind of have he has a cavalier attitude about his life. He doesn't wanna die in a horrible way. Which is why I think he's very much fighting for his. Life when he meets the stone men, and when he meets Mr. echo, he doesn't want to be dismembered does not want to share the ungraded Speight. But he I think that he has a little bit of a carefree attitude about himself where he himself feels like he's kind of playing with with house money, where he's you know, he's here he wants to he wants to interview denarius just as much as he expects. He's being interviewed on fear the Walking Dead much like out on the Walking Dead, which is giving you a story. Definitely something that nobody was thinking. Than unlikely appearance of an Al from fear, the Walking Dead reference here in winter was here in this in the year eighteen October twenty eighteen while Al on the Walking Dead is still a thing a year from now, I would not Bank on it. So Tyrian he has heard about this baby that was born in storm, and she had no land, and no money and no army and here she is. And now she has all three and Danny desks here. Well, why should I bother with you? What's so great about you? Yeah. Well, he's talking about how you know. It's our guarantee could be could be intense. You know, why why should I feel like you are going to be the right person? Here why we've just met. Why should I feel like you deserve my service interior kind of list out his own resume a little bit of talking about like, I'm the greatest Lancaster killer. That's ever been born. Why do you deserve me? Yeah. Because she is an enemy of the louder. Hey, look, if you hate Lancaster's while I'm your person. But I'm your guy Tyrian and tries to rebut. Danny's? Claim that look I have an army. I have dragons what do I need you for and Tyrian tells her that look killing and politics is not one in the same. Right. There's certainly been a lot of great kings, and queens who have murdered ruthlessly and have been affective in that way. But have often lost their lives and their rule pretty quickly afterwards. So that's why he wants to AC if she's got the stuff and be why he believes that he has the stuff to guide her in the right direction. Why he has the experience he served his hand of the king. He did a very good job. And just like, okay. Well, you know, talking about it is one thing. What's the what's put the job into practice? Here's Giora more Mont. Here's this lovesick fool who who betrayed me deeply, I'm not a big fan of his. I said I would kill him. If I ever saw him again here in marine. What do I do the jury and he's put to the test right away? Yeah. He's like let me think about it. Well. You know, he definitely loves you. He did betray you. Did he have an opportunity to confess his betrayals? Yup. Time. Yeah. Hundred percent million majorities. We talked privately several times. So it was an unpleasant truth, but he didn't trust that you would be smart enough to forgive him. So Dan, should I kill him? No don't kill him. But he can't be here. And you expect Jordan be like come on. Well, this is like this is Terry. Thank you. Yeah. But you brought me into the old Valerian almost got me gray scale. I'm lucky I didn't get a Kuti spot this Tyrians way of being kind toward Giora. He's actually saved Jawara's life already at this point where we're Mr. Recco. And the slavers are gonna kill Giora. And then Tyrian speaks up for him. He's like, no don't kill them. So I think like some measure of mutual respect has emerged between these two guys. But they're now at the point this is where this was the destination that they were both trying to reach tearing wanted to see Danny anyway, Giora took him to see Danny Giora thought that he was going to buy. Back his place in Danny's cabinet by selling her, essentially Tyrian, Lancaster, and that's just not going to be how this works. If Tyrian is going to walk out of this with his head intact. He has to give to nurse the best advice. He possibly can. While also the side benefit of that being some measure of mercy towards Lord more Mont in the fact that he is not going to get killed. He should be lucky that he is walking out with his head intact. So I think in its own way much as the aero was a mercy to man's raider. I think that the move to once again exile Giora while a bit repetitive is is a mercy for that man as well. All right. So they take Giora away. Let's go to the black cells and check out what's going on with that Nella. And sir c yeah. It's a quick scene. There's going to be a little bit more later on. I think we could Yar Yar this September ele- socks, sir. See is not a fan services like getting smacked by a spoon and getting water held out on her. She's only allowed to drink. If she is. She's not gonna. Confess confess. Yeah. And she once again reiterate, I told you I meant it. My face is going to be lasting see before you smack in the face. But of course, we know that we'll get the last laugh on septa eventually just what was the nila doing before the high Sparrow really came into his own probably torturing other people probably just like doing a lot of like religious torturing or she may be was like, I don't know. Just hanging out in the cell waiting for her big moment. Okay. All right. Let's go over to Bravo's and check in with what aria is working on and a little bit of this the game of faces. It's a little bit of the game of faces. And it seems like Arias doing a much better job as she is talking about her new persona as. The voice tres, clams and cockles girl. Yeah. And she is going to go and try on this identity, and we're going to see that Jack and gar is going to task her with a new assignment right ditch moon singer lane. I guess it's actually Raghman lane. I'm sorry. That was a lie. You're no longer going to be turning left onto Raghman lane. You're going to Raghman harbor. Yeah. Yes. And you need to go and work with your voice, tres, clams, and cockles and sell them to a skinny man slender man, the thin, man. This man is an entirely different thing would be very terrifying. In the world of Gatemouth. Yeah. That'd be horrible. Is going to be sent to this thin, man. Who does this this like work with these like ship captains, he's a gambler he wages that a sailor ship is going to make it to its destination. And the captain only wins. If you loses his life seems like a terrible bet. I don't understand why anyone would really get in on it. It seems like a terrible bed. And I think the punchline is he bets that you won't get back or that. He he he bets that you will get back. And then when you die and you lose, but then he doesn't pay your family. I think that that's sort of the scam here. Right. That's a good scam. It's very I don't know feels berry like Java Han solo right? Like the the whole idea of like just like betting big on one guy. And then, you know, if you owe me in the longer, you're way, the more you owe me these guys are lucky that they're not being frozen in carbonite also very impressive. That aria is able to just like shuck annoy. Mr. so fast. I feel like that is indicative of some time that must have elapsed while aria has been posing as the Ana because to to learn the art of just popping and oyster like that. That's got to take at least months to really master. And I don't know if we explored this in the real time. I don't know where REI gets always stirs does Jack and Hagar have a seafood guy that they have a connection seems like that, you know, how does she just automatically start up this seafood business? Yeah. I don't know. They really just kind of. I think they they did us the mercy of not going into the deep dive details about how that all came together. I can live without the game of thrones spin off about aria stark becoming Alana the clams and cockles girl on the details guy, though, I liked it. And they know you are I know you getting in the weeds on this. UC weed man, the jo-john weeds right now what I don't understand is. Okay. We we sort of explored what this guy's scam is. And then it's like, okay, Josh Wigley is like, well, I'm going on a trip to Fiji it could be dangerous. I bet that I won't get back. Okay. And he's like, oh, I bet that you will. And then okay. But then this guy is like, well, it's my eighteenth trip. Like, I'm gonna I'm betting I won't get back this time, and he's like no deal. That's it. Get outta here out of my wife if it's a scam. Why doesn't he take? This guy's money. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know that the man is. Strange strange bird. Good thing. We're not going to have to deal with him. Very long. Yeah. All right. So Ari is tasked with keep your eye on this guy. Keep your eye on this guy. Yeah. That seems to be a decent plan as long as nobody from her past shows up and comes a distraction coming down the line because we know that this guy likes his oysters. He likes them with vinegar thing, by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. A minute. I'm not an oyster guy. Josh, I'm not a huge oyster guy myself. I dabbled in oil stirs. I can enjoy the occasional user. I don't really seek them out very actively. But if if an oyster comes my way, I'm not going to be URI's about it. And I've encountered many in my time. Have you know, you can have a little cocktail sauce that that could be really good. You can have the classic minute sauce a little bit a little bit horseradish in there, perhaps though that's really in the cocktail sauce. The minuet is really like shallots chop show. It's a little bit of like the vinegar that gives it kind of like, the pickling taste it. Can it can be good stuff as long as the quality of the oysters are good. And that's really the thing. Kind of like Easter guy. I mean, I'm just trying to give you a little bit of insight into what the officers are like, I'm not a big fan of like, the briny oyster that really tastes like the ocean and pretty much any oyster is going to at least taste a little bit like the ocean. So it's just not going to be my default thing. But I'll eat I'll eat just about anything at this point. I'm I'm I'm a glut. That's one of my sins. Well, aria is going to be given a little bit of the poison for Mr. thin, man. This is going to be some spiked vinegar that she's going to be serving up. Yeah. And then she walks away in the wave. Says I don't think she's ready for this. I don't think she's ready for this jelly. Yeah. And somebody's really jelly. It would seem. Yeah. In jacket as well. If she dies. She dies cares. But I don't think he really believes that he seems to be a big aria fan. Yeah. So he's just telling the wave which wants to here. Yeah. I think so it's all the same to the many face God. Indeed. Indeed. Maybe he does believe that where it's like if that's what her fate is in. That's what her fate is. So who we then go to see, sir? See again. And now she's getting a visit from Khyber. Yes. So this is the bigger scene of the episode where Khyber n- shows up and seriously. So tell me what's going on. How bad is it? Like. It's very bad situation. It's not good. Every single update that Khyber and has for C is in the in the red. This is bad. The highest barrows presenting a substantial case, the charges are fornication treason. Incest, even the murder of gang. Robert. It's the belief is is often the death of reasons. So even if you are saying that these are lies the fact that people believe them will overrule the fact that you've got a case in your corner. No one's gonna care about that. By the way, none of them are allies. They're all. Seriously, can insist on all of them are lies. None of this is true. But she's she's definitely she's definitely in big trouble here in very big trouble here, how Khyber n- becomes servcies legal counsel. There's not somebody that's more qualified. I mean, they feel like that. This is not seem like it's in his wheelhouse. Because she's got no one else. Nobody else. There's no Lancaster lawyer anybody to go. Yeah. She doesn't have anybody. Everybody hates Lancasters at this point. Certainly everybody hates, sir. She made her big move the high. Sparrow, was kind of her guy the highest Barry was no longer her guy. Khyber news really her only guy, we even get as as the story develops. Here is hybrid inserts. You're talking there's no word from Jamie, Jamie's often Dohrn. So there's nobody to talk to their grandmaster pie cell who has been a big Lancaster guy for a long time. And this is this is something that I didn't really remember. But it's one of the benefits of the. Watch not that it matters much in the grand scheme of things. But I think we've appreciated the grandmaster pice L sub story that has been running throughout the show that slowly and slowly. And slowly seriously has just been dissing this guy and really just you know, subtly jabbing at him in knocking him down. And finally Maistre by sells like I'm calling on Kevin. And he's going to be the guy, and I'm not gonna come and speak to search the I've got no interest in that. So she's already pushed away this guy who's been in her corner for a very long time alkyl, Kevin not interested doesn't wanna see sir c at all not on her terms anyway. And we also hear that that poor little Tom is doing poorly at time. So everybody is doing poorly. Everybody's having a horrible time. The only way out is to confess and sir. Sees just refusing to do that. But he bring him voice tres. Maybe he might like that. Maybe he isn't always to guy. Yeah. He could be a noise guy. I feel like I could see that. Yeah. Eventually sept- Annella comes in. It's like all right parties over party's over. It wasn't much. Party. Yeah. It was bad. I just confess just could fast. That's it. But he does leave her with like one silver lining where he says the work continues. And the implication there is surrounded strong is still in development not that that's really going to bear fruit for her in her way out the door here. So I don't know why he's maybe he's just kind of showing off. He's like he will be there to carry her back into the red keep. Yeah. And you know, he's an enforcer later on you know, he gets his gold are on. But that's really about it. But he's it. Maybe he's just like looking for an Atta boy nobody's been around to tell carbon. You're doing a great job. So he just wants to hear I guess. Yeah. Good job, man. That's great. All right. Let's go back to a winter fell. And we see as seen with Sansa and theon and theon or Rica comes into see Sansa. She's like why why did you wrap me out re is like the Marie because I'm reading all of this stuff is horrible. And I don't know what to do. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, no. You're a terrible person. I'm glad that you've been turned into re brothers. I like this. It's it's just like, you know, what I'm happy everything that bad that happened to you. I wish I would have done it. I would have been very happy to done all the things which is very dark look for for for Sansa. Stark. I don't know if this is just anger or this is real. But the things that happened to theon. I can't imagine that she would have actually wanted to do any of that stuff. Yeah. But then wreak slash theon. He does crack a little bit. And then reveals that the boys that he killed were not actually Brandon Rick on yet. They were just these little farm kids who I killed and I burn them so badly. So nobody would know that their Brandon Rick on and then he freaks out, and he leaves and Santa seems to be very excited about the fact that Brandon Rick on are are still alive. No love lost for the farmboys two. Kids did die here. Let's not be callous. Right. But Santa's like well. At least they weren't my brothers. So. Happy so bitter sweet sweet for Sansa sweet bittersweet. Okay. And the still don't Kobe theon. I'm Marie I'm rea-. All right. So we see Roose Bolton in the war room. And he is planning what they're going to do that status. His men are coming. And he says, look here's what we do. We just hide out here their horses can't jump over the walls. We have six months of food. It's winter there men are gonna mutiny. This is a great plan. Right. And Ramsey's like, you know, I'm really good at being a terrible person on a master of stealth you could just activate Bolton stealth mode and bring twenty people into his his camp. And we can we can call this now, which is obviously foreshadowing the first wave of the battle between status and Ramsey, which is a is a short war between these two, but Ramsey's really going to be dunking on standards breath unit every turn. Yeah. 'cause Roose Bolton doesn't want to send an army in the snow to go fight Santa's. But Randy says he can do it with twenty men Roose Bolton. Okay. Fine, fine. It'll get you out of my hair for a week fine. They'll do whatever you have to do. We don't need an army. We have a Holck. Yes. Actually, the John's no has a whole now. More on that to come. Yes. All right back in marine, Danny interior in are still talking through about what they're going to be doing and how much they have in common, and they end up turning the conversation back to their horrible fathers. This is a great scene. I mean the first scene between Danny interior is also excellent. And I you know in last week's episode, and then the first one in this episode, but this is really the great Danny interior seen so far of this series. And it was just I remember being so excited watching it the first time through being I've never seen these two characters in Iraq before this is awesome. We've wanted this for so long, and it was just like a really great preview of the potential of this show. And where things could be going as we were starting. To move towards the end zone here. But to hear sort of the symmetry in their stories of their horrible, fathers and Tehran's like my brothers. The only other person in the world I trust other than various. And she's like, oh, you mean the brother who killed my dad was like. Yeah. As awkward, but you know, just the way the interconnectedness between these two stories, I think is is really really excellent in the performance is here from Gingrich and Clark or just on par. Yeah. And they do verbally Spar back and forth. Not that they're fighting. But they go back and forth, and it's very fun to watch the interaction between the two of them. And so they're talking about you know, what would your father did what would your father do? And they're talking about. How Tyrian ultimately says that we're to terrible children of two terrible fathers. Danny's like, wait. Why am I? Terrible. Yeah. I've heard some stuff, but maybe the right? Kind of terrible. Yeah. You're good bad. Good bad. And so Dan, no, she wants to be good bad. Yeah. She's feeling a little bit regretful about opening the fighting pits again tunes. Like, no. That was great. That was a good move. You know, people wanted that. So that was good. That was smart that was wise in you marrying somebody you don't like that's also good. That's for the greater good. That's great. That's impressive. That's already two points in your favor. I'm feeling good about so Tyrian would like to stay and help denarius with her 'cause and is willing to bring Tyrian onboard. Yes, she seems to be open to it. She says all right. I'm not gonna kill you your macgyver. Now. You're my adviser you're going to advise me, but you have to stop drinking so much and he's like all right? I quit. Yeah. And tearing asked in heiress about you know, his what what we have me do. And she says I need to help me get what I want and she implying the iron throne and tearing at pick something else. Yes. Yeah. Again, like, I think at Tyrian is potentially even giving voice to to wear the story, maybe heading with generis that the iron throne is the thing that she covets the thing that she thinks that she wants that thing that she thinks that she is destined for when in actuality, maybe that's not it. Maybe she's destined for something bigger. She's destined for something a little bit more important. But she does give a convincing sales pitch here. When Tyrian talks about let's be generous. And assume that you're going to be able to convert the commoners over to your side, you had the support of communists here in slavers bay. You were ruling without the rich that did not starting to not go. So well over in west rose, you need people who back you. There's not a lot of people who are going to back. You maybe the Tyrrells will. That's not impossible. But it's not enough and Danny's like I don't need their help. I'm there. Spokes on a wheel I'm gonna break the wheel. I'm going to change the whole thing. And it's impressive rhetoric. But without a real action plan. You know, what is it real? Yeah. Although in fairness here to Danny when Tyrian is saying, well, maybe you should pick something else. If I'm Danny like, well, what are you here? What are we talking about? Then if we're not talking about getting to the iron throne. What do I need your help with rolling marine? Because nobody wants me to do that. No, I advise you to leave marine it's gotten boring here. Yeah. So I don't know exactly. What tier Ian is thinking about here. But you know, I think I think part of it too. Probably is it's devil's advocate stuff where it's like he's trying to get her to think about the reality of the situation. So she starts thinking about it in a wiser more pragmatic way. He's testing. Yeah. You know, she could still take over west rose. She just has to do it the right way. And tearing things maybe he has more of an idea of what the right way would be up. And so ultimately, you know, there's talking about the great houses. And Danny says that you know, it's all just spokes on a wheel this one's on top. And that one's on top. And on spins crushing the people on the ground and Tyrian says, okay, I get it. You wanna stop the wheel? But you're not the first person ever think about that. And Danny says, I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel. Josh what's his breaking the wheel look. Like, I think that means completely reshaping the image of west roasts where it's not, you know, it's not stopping the wheel. It's breaking the wheel where the northerners are completely loyal to Danny. There's no more, you know, kingdoms, it's all one place. But I mean, frankly, we don't know yet. We just haven't seen enough of what Danny's idea for ruling western is right now. I don't think so necessarily. You know, maybe she beans like wiping out any of those power structures, though that like Stark's are no better than anybody else. Tyrrell's are no better than anybody else that the class system is destroyed. I think that could be something that she is. I yeah. So we'll see we'll see I don't know if she really has a plan for that. Well, we'll see as we get season seven when we reapproach some of that stuff. I don't know either. Yeah. Yeah. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Good. I hopefully somebody will. All right Giora is going back to the slave master. He wants back in. Yeah. Put me in goes. Just wants to fight again. He wants to he wants to fight for Danny again. Yeah. I mean, this guy cannot take a hint. Now, he is really insisting that he he gets to be part of Danny's coalition. It's like, maybe if I fight again, she'll be into it this time, I'll show her. Yeah. Buddy, buddy. Get a hint command. So we go back to septa nila insurgency and LSU does got her ladle her ladle with water like confess confess like some of this water. And then she's not responding to any of services offers. No, really, not like services really trying to be like, please. I'm going to get out of here. I could make you really wealthy do Noah just not hearing nine here for at all. No. And then she pours the water on the floor and services trying to drink some of that dirty floor, which I guess you gotta do if that's the only water, which is a tough situation that being said seriously kind of ground yourself into this situation. Now does she get the water and then gets to confess because can she do like a chunk from the goonies style. Confession. That's the like like a bunch of different stuff. Oh my God. The the surf shop. Yeah. Then this one time my brother pinch. I pinched him so hard that the red viper thought that I was going to seriously hurt him. And then the worst thing I ever done was. It's on the tip of my tongue water. Right. Sir, sir. Seeing a Hawaiian t-shirt is hilarious idea. All right. So we're going to see Sam rocky road. Yeah. Salmon Gillian they're kinda just doing the post mortem on key road. Yeah. Yeah. Salmon. How is that? That was great was good. How's your face? It's okay here. Always here. RA's here soon obligatory. I'll check and you know, I wonder I feel like I might have been too hard on Ali, the I I don't I don't find him as you're tasting on the rewatch. What do you attribute that to? I think I just sort of like a see his side of things a little bit more where I think that I was maybe the first time through Jon snow is the best who are you? Where do you get off questioning the wisdom of the Lord commander, right and say. Say that John snow made some mistakes in terms of his messaging. Yes, I think that's the thing. I think we'll even be able to pick pick some of that apart in this. The final half of the episode Johnson says some curious things, but I agree. I think that it's less about what John snow wanting with John's snow wants is very noble and is correct. I think that the way that he has been phrasing. That stuff has left a lot to be desired to the point. Where Ali who should be a really easy sell. Somebody who is like the biggest Jon snow fan in the world is going to just a couple of episodes from now plunged dagger into Johnston's chest feels like that was a heart and mind, you could of converted. Yeah. And Ali is asking Sam. But why why are we doing this again? Jon snow, like didn't they killed my family and not all Wild Wings. And always like look the red headed dude killed the raid that killed my my parents and sands like oh on the there's no rebuttal to that. You've moved yourself into a place. There's just no refuting. That fact. Yeah. In San mistress. Well, there's the army of the dead. They're going to they're going to come. Ollie's fixated on the the Wild Wings. Well, what if they cut our throats while we're sleeping? Yeah. Well, he's just not. He's just he's not buying into the whole army of the dead thing. I don't think anybody really is. Right. It's much easier to see the threat that's at your door, especially when they killed your parents. Yes. Indeed. Yeah. Okay. At the end of this conversation, though, Ali is like looking confused and Samson's, don't worry Ollie. I've been worrying about John for years. He always comes back. He always comes back. Yeah. Obviously little him. All each just remember that he'll come back. You'll hang you. They'll hang you within forty eight hours of being dead. He'll be back. Just remember that before you try to kill him. He always comes back. You. Warn you. I think that when I when I think back on my feelings on season five, I think that I was mostly annoyed by the way in which the game of thrones creators, tried to leave us with zero hope for John snow's return when there's moments like this. He always comes back. There was just so many reasons to believe that John wasn't going to stay dead and just the cagey -ness of Benny off in Weiss about the whole matter. That was really the thing that variated me the most granted there's some storylines the season that are just a little subpar. But I think a lot of the feelings of IRA of had toward season five are more on the meta factor. And I think that there are mitigated in binge mode. I think when you're watching the show just all the way through a lot of that stuff feels lesson for me that the way that the show runners handled all of this after the show was was not great was not great. I think the just like the way in which they they left us with. Any kind of like real wink and nod when it was just so obvious. I felt like that was that was an annoying an annoying bit for me. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's go to hard home. And that's where we will spend the rest of the episode and we spend a good thirty five minutes here. In harlem. It's great. I'm glad it's awesome. It's it's such a great sequence the whole thing just kind of feels like its own mini movie. It's almost like it's its own like half hour episode of game of thrones. Which is a little bit of a new trend for the for the drama these days, but thirty minute drama episode. I'm I'm really feeling that vibe. And I think when you think about hard home, you mostly think about the stuff that we're getting into here. Okay. So Josh Jesus set up what is hard home. So hard home is it's basically a stronghold of the Wild Wings north of the wall. It's a it's a fishing village. And all of the Wild Wings have or many of them at least like the surviving Wild Wings. So many of them from different clans. That's why we're seeing all these different clan leaders. They've gathered here just as things have been getting. So so terrible in the in the wake of STAN is coming and destroying man's raiders army. These are the people who were able to escape that. And they're all just like hold up here waiting to figure out. Well, what do we do? Now, we're without manse raider where without a real. Oh, clear direction. And this is why John has come to these people to be like, hey, come with us. You're you're safe below the wall. You're certainly safer there than you are up here. Okay. So we see John and torment get greeted by the Lord of bones. Lord of buds is back. Lord bones is back for five seconds. I was so excited to see him. I know love the Lord above. No, good old bones, buddy. Just gets his his shit wrecked. And like the first five minutes of. I think it's really like diminishes the legacy of Lord of bones is really percents percent completely smacked. Her ally tore giants it's sort of like, you know, what is this guy doing with like a skeleton on his face? Yeah. I mean giants being is a is a bad ass for sure when we were led to believe that so was rattle shirt. And he just gets like very seriously punched at perhaps like Lord of bones could see and didn't have like a skeleton over his face. Maybe he might be more formidable opponent well at the like modified the skull helmet. Maybe I think like he needed it to be like more of like a grid iron. Look, I think would have would have been helped. He's intimidating, but it seems like that, you know, it actual practice that may be, you know, just wearing a skull over your faces. You know, not the best move like form over function. Yeah. Anyway. So he's like a who are you? Why are you here? What are you doing? Why are you with this guy, and they're trying to tell Lord bones? No, we're allies now. Yeah. So strike one for John snow. I think allies speaking for torment here like just like stepping in and thinking that he is already able to speak effectively to the to the culture of the Wild Wings here. Torment kind of gives Jonah luck being like dude, stop don't don't say that let me deal with this. And obviously, it goes over very poorly with the Lord of bones who just like immediately starts ripping into torment before torment is forced to rip into the Lord of bones. Right. And the Lord of bones is making some homophobic comments to Jon snow and Ormond, which you know. Hey, not cool Lord of bones. Germans got no time for it. He's not here for that. He doesn't like the insult. He stands up for John. Oh, he stands up for himself. And he just destroys decimates the Lord of bones, very swiftly. So it was a completely disastrous appearance for the Lord of bones. Just completely tarnished. His legacy. No, it's very bad. Agree that would have been a much better deal for him for sure. Tell me alive. Yes. Okay. All right. So John is get everybody together. It's gonna make his pitch to the wild links. Yes. And this is one of the areas in which he could really use some work. I mean, he's he's being honest. He's like, we're not friends. We've never been friends. We're probably not going to become friends today. This is about surviving this about putting my wall between you and what's out there and carseat the wild Ling. She's like you build that wall to keep us out. And then Loboda says when you guys since when do you guys give a crap about if we live or die says in normal times, we don't these are not normal time. Yup. These two people that you mentioned Loboda the thin and then car see the wild Ling. They get like a nice media roles in this episode. I think that's a big reason why I love this episode so much is certainly. People have to die in this sequence in order for it to be really really effective. But there's characters here who have more important stuff to do moving forward. You can't really lose Jon snow at hard home. You can't lose torment here dollars. Ed is going to be the guy who's going to be taking on the night's watch. Since we've already killed so many of the night's watch characters you need to keep him alive. So that there's somebody recognizable. So what's the move? And I think that the move here is a kill somebody recognizable instantly in the Lord of bones. Even if he's not a main character just the way in which he is killed so swiftly. I think starts to unsettle you that things could go very differently in very very badly for many of the people here on. But also, it's like it's like boosting up the red shirts. It's like turning the faking you into thinking that these red shirts or gold shirts that he no car. See is somebody who potentially is going to be like a main character. It seems like she's got some good chemistry with John snow seems like she certainly has history with tournament. Giants pain Loboda is like being set up as like somebody who could be. Counter argument to the pens as we had seen them before. Somebody who's a little bit more. A little bit more manageable. Even if he's taking a hard line against John snow, of course, one one just by size alone is somebody who you're going to who you're really gonna feel for right away. Somebody who's going to have a lot of great impact. So you're kind of tricked into thinking that these are new characters on the show as we're incorporating the wild things more into the game of thrones story, these are people that we're gonna wanna watch moving forward. Even carseat kind of represents this character named Val from from from the books that never made it onto the show. This woman in the wild wing culture that John has a really close relationship with. So there's a lot of ways that the story is setting up. This version of what they're gonna do by killing them off in really horrible ways and berry suddenly in a manner in which you are not expecting even though you just met these people that you already feel you feel something when you lose these people, I think that's a really effective job. Both in the writing the direction of the episode the acting of the episode it just makes you feel very invested in the fight at heart home. Yeah. And John is trying. To talk to them about the white walkers or coming, and we have this dragon glass, we can we can fight them. We need you guys to be enrolled in this battle against them. And the nobody's really super interested in what he's trying to say John is gonna namedrop manse raider. Yeah. And he's like, I knew Mance raider. He would've wanted you guys here. And then everyone's like, so where's manse? Hadn't thought that through. Yeah. So he says manse raider died. And John has like an opportunity here to explain what happened to man's Reiter with some detail in context, and instead he chooses to say, I put an arrow through his heart. What's? Yeah. Yeah. No, not big fans of that. Understandably. Okay. Very much. So Josh very understanding comes in. And he smooths things over did torment and John snow work that bid out where. Okay. But I'll say that I put through hot. So that you come in. And you you like make me look good like I'm like a bad as there was a great idea. Good cop, bad Comcast's. I love it. Yeah. I love the good out comforting. Because if they didn't then it's a bad job on John snow that being said, I think it is very consistent with John snow's character. At least as game of thrones is presented him. We have the benefit here of knowing. How Jon snow is going to react at the at the dragon pit in king's landing at the end of season seven when they're all making the appeal of like, hey, we all got to fight together. Like the second version of this exact scene, and it's just it's it's going to go poorly there as well because John snow just cannot tell a lie, or at least can't even give context. You know, like, you could at least be a little more, honest, a little less like honesty could still exist with context, you don't just have to skip right to the very literal definition of how this man died. Explain what happened. Well, they were going to set them on fire, and I didn't want that to happen. I respected man's Reiter. And that's a bad way to die. So I use it because easy when he infiltrated the Wild Wings like he did lie like he can do it. Yeah. Spin. Yeah. Baby. That just like it. Tired him out so much like he's just he's against doing it. They never again be like, okay. This is your mission you need to sort of like paint these facts in a different way. Yeah. So in that, great, not great. But torment ends up saying like, no it was a mercy. He did a whole good thing. And I like this guy. And so the woman car see she says, look, I lost the budget members of my family fighting against the crows and Johnson. Look, don't forget, you're dead. I won't forget mine. But we gotta work together kind of team up. Yes. And so they sell some people on this. Some people are okay. Like car sees into it. We see we see that one one. He's good. He's happy to he. He's all about tormented. That's really the thing is that both Carr C and and one one. Another wildly as well. They're kind of like Storman thinks this is the way we trust torment. The thin Loboda is not into it. Not feeling it. Yes. He says that no this is a trick. They're going to slit your throats once they get you on the boat. Correct. Yeah. Just really refusing to consider his true self interest. Not doing the research, not stopping to think about the process here. Just very blindly buying in on what the typical wildland philosophy here is versus them. And there's no way no way whatsoever. That we can set aside some of our differences to save our skins in the immediate moment is a very bad look for for this line of thinking, I think, and then John doesn't really even rebut that he's like doesn't even make any sense. Why would we come all the way to do that? Yeah. Yeah. Just like it's a it's a limited amount of people that are willing to come along for the ride. Yeah. All right. But there are some people on board. So I guess something is better than nothing. And so we learn that it'll be about five thousand or so roughly I mean, that's John's estimation term, and he's not a counter, you know, that really his wheelhouse. Yup. All right. So everybody is getting onto the boat, including Carr sees children. Yeah. And this is a another great moment that gets you a little more invested in carseat, and certainly sets up her own death that, you know, she's saying goodbye to her children here everything she's doing here is for the sake of her children. And then she's just going to get wrecked by me children. Yeah. So just how many people should we assume have made it off to the ships before the disaster strikes at heart home. I did a decent amount. But if it's easiest people did don't you dare. It's a a solid amount of people. Here have have made the made the schlep. But I think we lose much more than we ultimately gain. Sure. All right. So we see a little bit of business back inside that one one the giant is messing around with the dragon glass, a kind of gets into it with with Ed. Yeah. He says like low key role, which says something vulgar in giants yank anyway. So we start hearing some bad noises bad noises, the dogs here at first day. They are aware of what's going on before anybody else. Yes. And very quickly all hell breaks loose where even the thin who has been leading the charge this exodus out of heart home. And really where are they going? Like, why are they leaving hard home is a good question? Like all the John scooping up all the people who wanna leave. Don't you think that like now you've just? Got more room to stretch out and hard home like the like, the prime real estate and hard home. Some of that's now up for grabs. You would think. So. But then, you know, it's also, you know, winter and maybe there's there's nowhere good in the north in this bar, north, your this is probably the criminal a cram is it that's the hard home is the best. I don't think it's the worst. I think I don't think that there's any place. That's particularly plush other than caress does. What about easy home, easy, home doesn't exist? That's something. You've invented doesn't exist that we know of. But I mean, if I was wildly real estate agent. I think I would set up shop in easy home. Like, why aren't you sick of life in hard home? Wouldn't you like to make a new life for yourself in easy home? Oh, the wild things. Like it rough. They oh, they like it. Okay. So then they would think you were Opposers. And if you were easy home, easy, home is west rose. Yeah. Hard hard home is is the true north. Okay. All right. So let's shut the gate shut the gate because I'm hearing bad noises. Yeah. And so this is this is when the battle the battle begins all these people were on the other side. They're like, no, no, no. This is bad. This is bad. They shut him out there pounding on the gate and then very quickly the pounding ceases. Why do they have a gay like this is this because the whites come like this before or other Wild Wings? No, it's to protect themselves from raiders alright law start, and so they start hearing all of this craziness. They closed the gate as a bunch of Wild Wings that are on the other side of the gay. They're all screaming and also that gets quiet. Yes. It gets very quiet. And then it stops being quiet. It starts being louder and more urgent and there are all sorts of dead. People skeletal remains of. Of old Wild Wings and other such people. Maybe some nights watching them in mixed in there as well. Who knows they're all they're all gathered together, and they're all trying to get in all hell breaks. It's getting crazy. They're climbing the fence at trying to come through the fence and things are getting out of control. There's a big fight sequence that emerges your defines the remainder of heart home in this whole sequence is certainly the reason that people remember this episode, right? And it gets a little hard to describe the action any highlights that you want to speak up before we get to some of the individual battles. No. I mean, I just I just love it. I love like the sword sticking through the gate, and John like fighting them back off in this. This guy Loboda is just immediately just like realizing I have messed up. This was a mistake should a believe the crow. I just think I think that's all that's all super fun. John realizes, oh, we need the dragon glass, I brought all the dragon glass here. Sam said, that's the thing. That's going to be able to kill a white Walker. I need to go back and get the dragon glass. Get the dragon glass. Go get that dragon glass and Loboda is like all right. I'm I'm on your side. Now, I messed up we're going to do this together. So the two of them are going to go into this cabin. And lo and behold Loboda, and behold, a white Walker is waiting for them and getting the dragon glasses going to be a more complicated effort than either of them realized. Yes, and John is going to engage in hand to hand combat with a white Walker something that nobody has ever done before and live to tell the tale. DJ Sammy slayer get I guess we forget this Loboda certainly will not live to tell the tale. He's like go get the dragon glass. I got this dope. I don't got this shattered immediately, and he is stabbed in the gut doubt. And so John is a battling the white Walker. And now he has long claw which happens to be a Valerian steel sword. Right. And so we are going to come to realize that that is that is white Walker kryptonite in addition to the dragon glass, Valerian steel is very effective against these guys. The white Walker is going to shatter instantly one I feel like that's wild. How they just explode like that. It's so neat. So. Just that moment is awesome. That moment is so great. When he, you know, the sound has like drowned out because John has had the wind knocked out of him at this point. He's crawling towards the sword. The white walkers crawling is like stalking toward him. You feel of course, Jon snow is going to be able to get out of this. But how so you're just kind of like waiting for what's the punchline going to be? So there's just like this heart racing element to it. He grabs the sword. The stands up just in the Nick of time in the fact that his sword doesn't shatter on impact against the white walkers weapon is in itself. It's a revelation. It's like oh. Well, long claws pretty special. Oh, wow. Long claws berry special as John does the sweet spin move and just shatters this guy into a million bits. It's awesome. It's amazing. It's a it's a really cool scene. Just in the crafting of it, the, you know, the sound design behind it. And just the narrative information we're getting about that as well. Where in a future episode in the season seven episode? We will continue. To see that Valerian steel and drag glass are effective against the white walkers. But you've got to imagine that that's only gonna come into more play as the show. Winds up starts winding down with the final six episodes still to be released. There's also a great moment in the fighting in this happens in battle, the bastards as well where Jon snow either has the wind knocked out of him or is like concussed to some degree. And you know, the sound design sort of like follows that where it's sort of like you're seeing things not necessarily from John's perspective. But in terms of where you know, the sound is gone out a little bit. Because of what's happened to John, and you really are. Was in his shoes. Yeah. One hundred percent. I think that this was because I think the way that the show and the story has been told they've really slow played the the threat of the white walkers. It's the first thing you ever see in game of thrones is a white Walker sequence. So right off the jump. You know that this is a big deal story line. But it's also an endgame story line in most of the story is going to be defined by the political wheeling and dealing all the human frailties that that are littered throughout game of thrones. That's going to be the real meat and potatoes of of this of this story. But this sweet sweet dessert, and we're we're finally getting into the final course of the meal and just along the way they're giving us like little chocolate truffles of white walkers sprinkled throughout the throughout this lavish feast, and this is like the most juicy truffle of them, all and analogy delicious and always tres involved as well. It's just it's a great time. And I'm just I'm I'm so excited for where they're going to go with it. But I think in this moment, especially because we'd been deprived of so much of what it looks like when the white walkers are involved just little little tastes along the way. This is just your biggest white Walker hit yet. And it's it's done so expertly, and does it is grounded in the perspective of essentially, the mean character of the show. So I think that really gets you invested and it helps get you invested to that. We lose these people along the way, I don't think we need to do it the super deep dive into the beat by beat how it all plays. But we Louis car C in a very dramatic moment where she's fought off a lot of these these whites. And then she turns around, and she sees like this group of children, that's such a haunting image those kids. Little shook the I'd be shook to I think I first of all I would have been dead long before this moment, right? I would not have made it to to the spooky kids. I think I would have been a visceral probably outside of hard home. What my bet just to confirm. Those are not her kits. Right. They're not her kits now they're like super decomposed like way way way. Did I just wanted to like, but she's very the fact that she's super son? Maybe they're her nieces and nephews though, I don't think she knew them. But. I wanted to make sure because there is the whole beat about her own kids. And I just wanted to confirm that that was not the case. I think that it's just connecting that and I think it kind of takes her breath away. This is the possible future that awaits her own children. And like she loses her composure in a moment that she really can't afford to lose her control. All right. So John ends up getting picked up by Ed, and he's like we need to get the dragon glass and like John. No, no, forget it. We gotta roll we're gonna die no partner up with somebody not terribly long from now who's going to be able to give them the dragon Guas hookup. So this is not a huge loss. But in the moment, it's not great. Yeah. And so they head to the boats. One one giant is also going to the both, and he's just like taking the whites that are on him and just like throwing them in the water and they're headed back to status fleet. Yeah. That's one one giant the most Horry Hoed or of season five if we're going by thrown her awards, and so they are on their way back to the boat, and John is just looking back and we've seen a couple times in this episode the night king. He is observing what is going on. And he sees John snow, and he's making eye contact with John snow, and he ultimately is going to raise his arms in one of the most iconic images. In game of thrones history. Josh yes, for sure I'm sure that's on the list. Right. It's gotta be. It's got to be on the list. Gotta be on the list. Just the stuff they do at the white walkers. In this episode is so good like not only this moment. But like that I I'm that John looks up and sees white walkers like it's not just whites that are here that are fighting them. It's not just like this army if the dead he sees beyond in the distance all of the different white walkers on their mounts, just like in the in the on the peaks in the horizon, just it's so spooky and then when the Nike Inc shows up, and he just walked so slowly in so confidently you are now finally looking into the eyes of the primary antagonists of game of thrones. Maybe not much of a character. But the face of death and him having that moment of like like you said at me, bro. Of him raising the dead arms outstretched and being like, this is what you're up against. It's a very appropriately. Chilling message to end hard home on and to really set the stakes for what is going to come later down the line on game of thrones. Yeah. And we see everybody rise back up and very terrifying. Image for Jon snow, the guy who's rowing the boat is really chill. Yeah. There's like one guy who's like who's who's in a hood who is rolling faster at this point. Yeah, he's got his back to to the night king things and everything he's just very chill, and he's just like rowing, very slowly. And I was I was impressed by his I don't really realize what was going on. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. All right. Josh, that's hard home. That's hard best episode of season five for sure. Yeah. And one of one of the true greats of game of thrones history. I think yeah. And. Very iconic sequence at the end of the episode as as you outlined best half an hour. Sequence of the show will history decide. Yeah. Let's let's see what what history has to say. I think through through seven seasons. I would say this is still the best half hour of the show. Yeah. All right. Josh anything else from hard home. As now we start to set our sights on season five episode nine. No, I'm very I'm very happy that we got through this episode. I will miss it deeply it was. It was a great pleasure to watch. And we've got to so it's less season five, and then we're getting we're starting to starting to gear up your we're getting close we're getting close to that game of thrones proper is getting as close as we are. I mean here we are just two episodes left in season five then ten episodes in season six and then seven episodes, and then it's time for season eight is that how it's gonna work. It's just going to definitely not. You know, maybe we'd like a couple of strategically placed intermittent breaks. We've got some holidays come two weeks off in between each episode. I think we'd be just about. Seems like did they announce an official date or are we still just looking at a window? No. I'm literally waiting to plan my life based on when game of thrones return. Yes. When game of thrones returns, I'm going to have to lock down like nine weeks of my life, my best guess, honestly, it could be anywhere. It can be anywhere in twenty nineteen. I used to think that it was going to be winter twenty nineteen because how could you resist winter is here in airing it in the in the winter months of game of thrones within their reports from I think one of the visual effects guys. It's like it's not gonna it's not gonna premier until July something when I tell you. Yeah. I winter twenty twenty is not happening. If game of thrones doesn't come back until like, the very end of twenty nine thousand nine that's going to be infuriated not gonna watch it. Then everyone's going to watch it. And I guess at this point take your time HBO, the probably a winner twenty twenty to take your time. And just make sure that it is great. But also could you let me know really love to start making some plans for next year. If got I've got things to do people. See at least is to go. Yes. All right. So Josh wiggle. If you are watching the Walking Dead as closely as we are, then we got a recap for you. Jessica lease was really on fire at talking about episode three of season nine of the Walking Dead as we are on the March to the end of Rick Grimes, potentially. Yes. And Jessica Lisa, and I were messaging very recently about getting back together to do a Walking Dead book. Club special for whatever the event occurs that Rick Grimes is no more. I think she and I are going to get together. And we're gonna talk about that. And what the comic book ramifications of all that are we'll do like a really big spoiler podcast. All right. So beyond the lookout for that. We will be back in our regular time. Slots of talk about a season five episode nine here on the game of thrones or recap. So be on the lookout for that. You could subscribe go to oppose your, recaps dot com slash itunes or post show. Recaps dot com slash GO TI, I tunes for the game of thrones. Only the Josh anything else. Nothing else your honor. All right. Take care. Bye. I.
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Or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to at home on the velvets edge podcast. This week I'm talking to my friend and client brandon. Lancaster firmly Inco Honestly Brandon. I probably could've talked forever because we are both so deprived of time. During this isolation period I loved his inside on the Corona virus pandemic and just how he and all the guys from and Co are focusing on the good. He also talked about the parts of the creative process of being musician that he misses most and breaks down each different aspect of why that creativity is so fulfilling. Here's our conversations. Okay so I just asked you how you were in you pause for a very long time. What's happening a very long time to your long enough to you. Don't people see? How am I think that question curiously so like I I like like I am the person that like how you doing? I'm like oh awful. It's just been a bad day but Yes me how I'm doing I think about it and I am doing good came under the current circumstances. It's like I think everything is for examination so it's like day out right now crack and I'm healthy and safe and so I'm good but I spend every I spent like vinyl my son. I'm really spending like I do. Read the news a lot and just whatever and so literally right before I picked up your phone call. I was on my seventeenth article about just life right now. So that's why you ask I am. I'm like well I just read about like pandemics going all the way back to like Europe. An Ha like just a weird time so I'm good. Yeah I'm good. How are you well? Thank you for asking? I think that is. It's a very hard question to answer right now because like you said we have a lot to be grateful for still and I think in some ways is pause has made me kind of look at some of that stuff that I miss on a day to day at Weird Times right. You're very weird. I mean I think that you know it's like There's definitely a chance right now. It kind of the either beholder. It's like You know you definitely. It's like this every time I think about. I just always go back to like I think in life everyone. We complain about so much in our society too busy. I'm tired I'm there's all these pressures that they're really we put on ourselves and we don't realize how much we actually thrive under those pressures. But really this is a moment where all those things have been taken away and then you go. It's kind of like reset button that you've been given where it's like okay. Well now like I'm definitely not on his daily grind. That was wearing me down for this or that. You know just little weird problems And so definitely is you know. Take advantage of that. Okay what are things like? I actually a really thankful for that. I think twice four and then also it's like when this is going to be over the toll craziness like when it is. What am I going to be thankful for? And how am I going to take advantage of of China and while Blah Blah and so? It's a definitely weird time but there's you know I I try to be positive about you. Know everything but there's you know it's there's no way that you can not you know? I think there's a lot of questions there's a lot of times that's when you doing. It's like well I'm fine. I'm healthy I'm good. I have this reset button on life and try to manage that but also there's just a lot of questions and confusion and I think that's that's okay and everyone's going through that right now and one day at a time. Yeah it's a lot to digest. So how has your your day to day changed. I mean what's the what has it changed for you guys in. Landco aren't we don't have a day to day right there is. I mean just the life that The life that I've known even longer than land because existed is just you know everything has always circled around. I gotta go to this right. I want to get in the studio. I WANNA play this show. I'M GONNA go to this show. I'M GONNA go hang out with this person It all revolves around. You know being around people and in around you know the social aspect of music. And so and just touring I mean. We have been a big touring band from from day. One I mean. We were touring before we even had music out there. We didn't have jobs and we're like well. That's the that's our job now. We're GONNA make money that way and so our day to day. It's you know we've gone. Through Times not touring. But we're not touring we we'll take a few days but really were riding when studio We're doing something and that really is I mean it. You really are like -ployed You don't have a John. Yeah and so it's You know we've I've been writing I've done a few like zoom right But you know it's interesting And luckily you know as a creative it's like I you don't need you. Just I mean this whole thing starts whatever age are here creative started because some point you bored at home and decided to give your creativity and outlet whether it be canvas or instrument or whatever so I definitely no. I'm just playing guitar and writing and do not know all the guys doing that and and doing that stuff but really the day to day is like just It's not really. There's not a lot of Land Co. Day-to-day there's like. It's really it's funny you know. I've been touring we've been for years and you're like I don't know about other touring musicians but most people talked to you. Don't mow your own graph. You really can't thank. You have time to do your lawn and now like literally pulling out my lawnmower. I'm like okay. I'm going to mow the grass and be like. Oh my gosh I am. I like I'm not good at this crooked look bad and like other people have been like mastering life skills that I have not been paying attention to for like six years. Yeah and I'm feeling ridiculous about it but you know there's some life skills that's a positive. I didn't I guess I did. I've thought this was really interesting. You know wanted to talk to a bunch of the younger artists. Because you mentioned that. There's so much pushing especially at the beginning of any sort of music career. Right like you're hustling. You're trying to get your name out there. You Really WanNa make a name for yourself and you also have to support your crew so I wonder like you know. Maybe some of the more established artists might not have this fear as much. But have you had any fear come up of that break in connection or how this is going to affect you guys long and like are you going to be able to keep things alive? Yeah I mean so we you know we spend the first half of this year the big the the winter months really out with Miranda Lambert and And we were doing that and then we're going back and forth. We were doing headlining dates and literally the weekend that this all everything started getting cancelled and postpone was like I mean we had a sold out weekend in Chicago and Minneapolis and Green Bay and we played a show in Green Bay and I was in the bus and within my bunk and I woke up and could hear our tour manager saying you guys want the eleven o'clock or one o'clock fight and I immediately knew that man. I like got on my bunk and walk out on. We're going home army and You know we had And and I am saying that say I got on the plane and the second I got Nashville. Second I landed. I was on the phone with our management and business management. Saying what does this mean because you do? Have you have an operating budget you know? You're you pay you pay for things you pay for your lights you pay for your all your sound equipment. You pay for your buses. You pay for all that stuff and you lease all that stuff and when there's no income coming in right. What does that mean money in the bank? But how much do we have to be paying all those leases and then also paying paying your salaries paying the people that work for you like how long till that runs out and I think that it is across the Board I think even bigger artists into one bus leaves or two bus. Reese you have fifteen bus leases. There's still an it's like how much money. How much can you operate before that starts going away and you still are paying people and so it but I think that one thing that we're still at a level where we have enough people that and we try to keep our costs low that it seemed like we would be able to maintain for awhile but that that the answer. That was my first literally the day this all happened. I was saying what's going to happen to the crew was going to. Have you know we have a sound guy? A light guy at tour manager. A Monitor Engineer Media Guy. You know and so That definitely I mean. That was immediately the fear. Because it's like you Especially the way it works too. I don't know if people notice but it's like for us a lot man for like artists that are level we to sell out venues November for Moran lambere but you make a lot of your money doing these festivals and things that are coming up right now and when that's taken away from you that's your that's definitely your fears like okay. We budgeted for this. Now that's gone. What does it mean but you know? It's luckily there's been a lot of Really Cool ACM musicares recording academy and OPRY Trust. There's been all these years working the station that have stepped in and help people like us. providing grants and providing those things. And so we've been trying to take advantage of those and but it definitely is. You know you're running a small business and name when your income is taken away definitely. You're just glad that we have really good management and business management. That made sure we haven't been spending all our money on. A cedars will right because that is the other thing. Is this all happened so quickly and like you said the questions remain. Like win is touring. GonNa go back to normal when his life going to go back to normal? Yeah Yeah and you know what's weird to as a musician is just because restaurants start opening back up or banks or whatever just because the life starts turning around doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be putting ten thousand people in a room. Might you know we don't know we have. This thing should really start flattening out and it could just start to Kind of fizzle out until there is no vaccine and more testing providing stuff like that But everything is every time I thought anyone on our team. We just kind of talking circles because at the end of the day. It's like well question. Mark will see and literally every day. It's like new news like this is going well of this like there's actually this you know it's the craziest craziest thing I mean. It really is a historic event that we're living through and There isn't aspect where it's like. You know no matter what the path it takes. I do know that a year from today this will be over and we have more resources and on more quickly than Times when this has happened before in human history and even Ben within a year. So you know okay. You're from now. Maybe six months you know there is going to be another end of it. And so in the meantime it's Day by day As a business owner trying to just maintain and on and see what? Yeah well so you are a part of a band. Obviously I know a lot of artists have been doing you know. The instagram lives and just performances. Have you guys done anything I mean? I'm assuming yeller is separately right. Yeah Yeah we I mean Yeah. You're from we've been isolating from each other. 'cause it's like we're all on the road and Some of the wives still have work because like Like chips and medical field and and so it. But it's still is like okay if your wife is going out or even if it's just me and I go to the grocery store and then we come back and then we hang out with everyone in the band and all the wives and it's like okay. You just went from two people to ten people you know exposing that so yeah we've been isolated from each other even and I've been doing. I've done some watching stuff or the whiskey jam thing and we're gonNA keep trying to do that but yet it's very it's it's tough of the ban because you know getting all five of us to do something that that sounds good. Musically is Is is a task for sure. Have you missed that connection with the fans every weekend? Yeah I mean that you're I think that's That's actually been something. I've been talking with people on our team about even guys in the band. I think that's one thing that that hard is you know. Everyone has different personalities about it. And there's no right or wrong but you know a lot of what we do. You do it you do because you love it. You're you're passionate about it. But the end game is to go out there and connect with the other people around what you've done you know whether social media or songwriting or anything you're doing the point is so that you are keeping that connection alive so that you can go out and do the connection person and And that definitely like I said I mean. We started as like a live touring band and so that I mean that's been the biggest thing is is even you know. I've posted a just clip of all of us in the band of saying what we were up to and I didn't like tell the guys say hey we'll do the your shout out whatever you want what you're up to what you're missing and it's just you know what I'm saying anything you just be sitting there on. Tv just sent me some kind of video. I plus small on instagram and every single guy. The main thing they said was we miss playing shows. We Miss You And I think if you can just see do all of our individual videos. All of our individual headaches is man we want to get back out and play shows. That's like all we've known and another gratitude things like man it really is. You're really fortunate that you have a job that it's only been you know a couple of months or a month and a half. You are missing your job that badly because it's more than a job at connect absolutely. Yeah a lot of people. Don't have that luxury of just missing. This might be nice for some people have to go to work. So that's an amazing luxury you mentioned. Ics At home with the wives. I think it's so fascinating. All of you guys are married or one is engaged. Y'All very young. What is this? Is this like some new wave of ROMANCE AND COUNTRY MUSIC. I don't know I I don't know. Yeah we Yeah four out of five married once engaged and I don't know I mean. I think everyone's story is different. You know it's like tripping alley. They were like high school. Sweethearts name and then shifting. I met in college Like my first year I was like nineteen ninety and You know the other but you know everyone. I don't I don't know I. It is a thing where it's like. You're just you know you're in a band and you tore the world. You could do all these cool things but you also are a person aside from Pat. You're being and you know I think that we're it's you know we fall in love. We want You know relationship we and when I think when you come off the road to it's like all you do is hang out with people and like drink beer with your buddies when you home. You want that once again connectivity. A different kind of cats. Every want that relationship. You want that you want that the craziness. That is your touring like you want kind of that piece home and so it's not that it's not to me if people are like you know get married up and they're like. Young -sition makes sense you know. Obviously I did it but I understand it because it's like man it's a crazy world out there when you come home you absolutely kind of want this rock to be able to know that your foundation is on but a yeah. I can. It is funny I I. We talked about that. I'm like man. I feel like this generation of artists. are all and maybe it's just more exposed than we've seen before because the social media but I feel like a lot of artists are definitely like that getting married and and all this stuff You know early in their careers and them age but I also think I honestly think helps. I think that you know if this is twenty thirty years ago and you're torn and you don't see somebody you have to get on a payphone to talk to him once a week. It's harder than you know I can say on my wife. Whenever we checked talk she can jump on a plane. Southwest and fly out through date and jump on the bus for three days. That there's just a lot of ways naked So yeah I don't know that makes sense. It's just interesting. I've never I think this is a new way than It's happening all over the place. I thought it was so fascinating when I first met you guys Joel All married. I was like okay. Okay okay so the new single is what I see so we just worked on the video which I loved by the way it just came out of. You guys are looking for something to watch during your corning. You're super involved and all the concepts of Y'alls videos so talk me through why is this? Visual storytelling is so important to you. you know. I I think probably because I also am involved in writing all the songs And I like going back to sing earlier like this. You know everything that I do is cry. It's an outlet. It's a creative outlet. It's not something you're doing to pass time. It's not like oh I'm gonNA write a song because we had a record do like I like it really is like. I really believe in what we do in the songs that I'm writing and I can be pretty picky about even in a right like dude. That's really cool. I'm that I would never say that or like. Oh that's just not an idea that I wanted to make that way. And so when you're starting with a song in that about like how you're going to the League GonNa put out there and then in the studio and the whole band were all like that musically like are you have. This kind of energy needs to feel this way. It needs to take you on this journey musically when you do that in Studio C of the Song's lyrics melody now the production and the instrument. It's the thing where okay. We've told this story musically and lyrically into a melody and all these different ways then if you're gonNA put a busy representation. It's like okay. What is the visual change? The what we've been working so hard convey to the song and so that's something that I definitely I've always loved spill. I've loved visual storytelling And so I just to me. It's just a bonus of okay. I write the song you record the song you play the song now. We sort of visual representation to what the song is. And it's a lot of collaboration. I talked to you know the way. It works music videos. You get a bunch of treatments from different directors and For me it's Then they usually all really good and cool and there's a lot of great stuff in there but I'll talk to a director. And Kinda just see creatively if we if if we both are are wanting to portray the same way or what ideas we're open to you and Kinda just brainstorm it And I mean it's I don't know that that that part is fun for me. You Know I. I've talked to artists that don't like that part at all. Like show. She's a video get out But I I got into this whole thing because I'm a storyteller and I love telling stories. Whatever means possible and so music videos just another way to tell that story that you started way before when you were you mentioned that you do a lot of the songwriting as well. And then you're also the lead singer say the out of the performance is heavy on. Youtube. Is there one part of the whole process? That's your favorite like. Could you pick a favorite part of this process? She favorite part of the process I don't I don't know I I have no I. I don't know if I could because I really. It's funny because every time that there is a process that starts with an acoustic guitar lyric or an idea and when you sit with an Acoustic Guitar Piano or whatever it is and you just have an idea you thought something that day or someone said something funny just now Like even what I see what I see came from literally as being at this little dive bar and we were just thinking it was awesome and we were on the road and my brother goes like we're just bragging on how often this place was. We could move here. This is just like man like just get away from it all and you know and my brother goes man. I wish sometimes I could see what y'all see. 'cause we make the best of wherever we're at and so you have your like man. That's kind of cool. How everyone sees things differently depending on your perspective or how you grew up or whatever it is that was just an idea and to sit down with acoustic guitars and turn that into an entire journey and song at the end of that. You're definitely going okay. This is the best thing in the world so cool but then when you get in the studio and you hear from Acoustic Guitars and just this song to this whole production that just you know just gives you chill bumps. That's like okay. This is unbeatable. Like this is the coolest thing and then when you get to go on stage and your people sing it back and be like this work like people believe in this same that we do and there. Are you know you do wonder as an artist? I think that there's different processes. But the touring part is always that. I don't want say validation but it kind of is because it's just all this stuff is in your head it's just in your head like this is a good idea. It's in and then you record it but when you go out live and you say you play festival and thousand people singing along and dancing and having fun it does make you realize that you're not alone in this world that the things that you're feeling of the things that you went through there are literally millions of people out there that are like you have gone through those things and you are giving them a voice your songs and that is a feeling that it's like it just It brings a lot of unity and it. Just that is a feeling that has been the most surprising. Feeling 'cause you dream of that stuff when you're a kid when you're pursuing music but when it actually happens and you realize that it's not just about being on stage it's not just about being famous or this or that it's about these people believe in you and you believe in them and it's a really cool exchange has been at least the most surprising part of this whole process that connectivity. You mentioned earlier well. I know that I'm looking forward to seeing you guys back on the road. Have Y'all talked at all about what you know. Is there anything you could tell the fans right now that they could look forward to once? All of this stuff has pastor. Isolation is over. Yeah I mean I just know I almost like protect myself from thinking about it because when this is over when we go back on the road I mean we've always been you know about like let's give everything we've got out there like tired. You are whatever it is like. No this is this is the show of a lifetime. This could be someone's first time seeing us. Someone's time seeing you know like giving everything you got out there but man those I don't think there's word you've ever been empty. But if they ever mean more than they ever did. It's going to be all over and I think music at the end of the day of Mo- specialty about music above other forms of entertainment is it. Music really isn't outlets. And it goes back that connectivity and I think that we all need an outlet at when this was all over you know and I think we We just can't wait to go out there and beat outlet for people because once again we're on the same page this connectivity. It's like we are. We need this as bad as you do. We get back on stage and start playing shows. it's GonNa be awesome and in the meantime also. I mean we are working on new music and so it's definitely there's going to be new music being released about a year and so people while they're corn team can be looking for that and then listen to it. Get the weird down and come up with us and then what are. Y'All social media handles that people can keep up with what you guys are doing. In isolation everything is just land co music it is and then your websites income music dot com Europe. So you guys go out landco music and you can also watch the video that we mentioned what I see. That was a really fun to on Brandon. Thank you for being here. 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Making A Bet On Election E501
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As Amish Leave Farming For Other Work Some Leave Their Homestead
"This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast Business Gig fueled network solutions that help businesses go beyond the expected to do the extraordinary Gary comcast business beyond fast learn more at comcast business dot Com Lancaster County Pennsylvania is home to the biggest settlement of Amish the people in the United States now that community is growing fast and some of its members are leaving farms and moving into towns. Some towns have had to change their zoning laws laws so amish people can bring things like horses along with them. Rachel McDevitt of member station W. I t. f. has a story kids. There feeding chickens and goats outside of busy bees farm market in Lancaster county a Little Open Air Red Barn traditional amish farm stand stocked with fresh produce soft pretzels and handmade crafts every few minutes a horse and buggy passes by Kissel ESPINEL is visiting reading from New York City with her parents had just really fascinated dommage community and how they live my parents grew up in a farm obviously wait different from this but very very similar vibe but most amish people in Lancaster County are no longer working on farms. The price of farmland has risen from about eight thousand dollars an Acre acre a few decades ago to twenty thousand dollars today and fewer and fewer amish farming the majority were outside the home in businesses and construction and so they're moving into towns Strasburg Township Supervisor Michael Weaver is driving a black jeep wrangler on whiny back roads past farms and small clusters of homes spaced well apart. This is a prime example right here. He stops outside one fairly modest beige ranch house with what appears to be a large garage or a small barn. It's a carriage house with room for two horses and a buggy plot of ground butts no more than a half. Acre it used to be needed one acre of land per horse to keep the animal on your property but township zoning board was getting inundated with requests for exceptions from Amish moving onto smaller lots so the supervisors voted to allow up to two horses for the purpose of transportation to be kept on a half Acre Weaver says the rule change was made as a compromise between the Amish and who they call the English or non Amish. I have seen a cultural clash between between the Amish community and the English the religious group nearly doubles in size every two decades and it's starting to feel a little crowded in Lancaster county where Amish are about seven percent of the population to chat lap who has amish changes in township rules aren't enough to help his people continue. Can you their lifestyle. There's just so much more late. The focus is on on okay now. We did half Acre for two horses good for you. It's not gonNA last long. As my point lap describes himself as a mad visionary he got his real estate agents license several Oh years ago and he's been helping families move out of Lancaster County as they look for more space and affordable farmland now. He's actively scouting neighboring counties for new settlements. Let's and finding people interested in moving. He says it's a matter of identity. He wants to see more of his people moving to protect their faith and culture from the mainstream name. That influence comes back into the period. You can't change that but many are tied to the land. A local amish man says though he's had family members move. He's never considered leaving. We're not naming him because most amish don't allow recordings of themselves or religious reasons. This man fears backlash clash from his community if they knew he had allowed it as he sits at the end of his driveway his big white farmhouse just out of view. He says his ancestors have been in the county thiessen eighteen hundred he started this farm in nineteen seventy five richer here. Our ancestors are buried here. We feel attached this. It's part of our heritage but the realtor. Chet lab believes the Amish will evolve by either embracing more of the modern world or safeguarding the traditions of their faith outside of their historic homeland for NPR news. I'm Rachel McDevitt in Lancaster County Pennsylvania This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast Business Gig fueled network solutions that help businesses go beyond the expected acted to do the extraordinary comcast business beyond fast learn more at comcast business dot com.