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"Hey everyone saw marquez. Here have you. Launched your podcast already discovered would've pain and could be to keep up with editing production show notes transcripts and operations. Would if you could turn over the keys to your podcast busy work while you do the fun stuff like expanding your network and taking the industry stage lead us edit your first episode for free so you can experience the freedom visit smooth podcasting dot com to learn more that smooth podcasting dot com to learn more. Hey everybody welcome back to. The outcomes. Rocket saw marquez. Here today. i have the privilege of hosting the excellent nathan jones. He was born in kansas city and he spent his formative years in idaho in a small town where his father was the town. Doctor if you guys have heard of done a couple episodes with dr lana jones. That's his dad. So it's a privilege to have nate here on the podcast later in a pursuit to provide needed support for the entire family of fourteen kids. Nathan's parents have made the decision to move to michigan mexico city where he spent most of his childhood when he was sixteen. The family made another move this time to utah which is also where nate graduated from high school. He attended college for year. Spent a year in active duty and also went on a two year mission with his church. He moved back home and ninety four and started attending utah. Val university later a transition to seattle where he attended school to become a commercial diver. He used his skills from this education when he worked as a diver in oilfields in louisiana between ninety five. And two thousand. Another transition occurred when he moved back to utah and founded clear in two thousand where he has been ever since. We've discussed clear and that they do and with using xylitol and and sinus care. You haven't had a chance to listen to the episode of dr. lana jones. Listen to it. He talks about how it helps you. Prevent cove it and reduce your risk of covid and today we've got is awesome son. Nate who is the ceo of the clear inc company. Joining us to have a great discussion. So nate such a privilege to have you here. Well thanks for inviting me absolutely. It's our pleasure so before we dive into the work that you guys are doing at clear. Talk to us a little bit about what inspired your work in healthcare. I mean you've done such interesting things before this well. That's a kind of a loaded question. Because when i was a kid i always thought i'd grow up to become a doctor and when i was going to college you know i was going on the pre med course. Then i went down. And i did some volunteer work at the emergency room at the local hospital here in utah. And what i realized is i can never be a doctors. You know it was a great job and it was a great thing but doctors normally have some patients to die. And i don't know that. I ever wanna put myself in a position to have to tell someone that their loved one is dead because i would sit there and i would watch. Doctors do that and the emotional toll of that is. It's it's insane. I just don't ever want to put myself into that position. And so that's when. I made the decision to go do something else and i didn't really know what i wanted to do. So i went to commercial diving school as you mentioned in seattle and was out working on the oil rigs. I've always had a high risk personality. You know when. I was in the military. You know blue stuff up and jumped out of aeroplanes. Bunch and i really enjoyed that. I enjoyed underwater. Welding with some people think is a is a risky job. But i didn't think it was and being an entrepreneur by by its very nature is a risky job. But what i enjoy about it now. Is i love that. I go to work everyday and my goal is to make money to support myself but by doing it in a way that makes other people save money by staying healthy and you know we bring that up all the time because our products are designed toothpaste mouthwash the chewing all of that and the nasal spray. They're designed to help keep you healthy their hygiene products that we can throw the we can show through science. How it's going to improve your health so it's gonna save you money. Well i think it's fantastic. And i never knew about you guys until until i i heard about it through your dad and you know the studies. You guys have done around. How keeping your nose clean with your product but also the impacts of xylitol on dental health. It's fantastic and so talk to us a little bit about how you believe. Clear with an accident ex- alley. Ar folks disappear if you're looking them up is adding value to people's lives while i think adds value because first of all your smile on and we'll start by discussing the you know the research behind the products but people smile is one of the first things that people notice about other people and you know a lot of people will sit there and say well it. White teeth is a good smile and what we wanna do. Is we want to make sure that. We're adding value by keeping health k. We want it to be helped. And there's a whole slew of other systemic issues that all arise from bad oral hygiene. And so what we wanna do. Is we want to make oral hygiene simple. We wanna make easy and we wanna make cost effective. And that's really what xylitol does is. It allows us to do that. And so if we can get people using xylitol it's adding value because they're going to save money by spice staying healthy. I think that's great and it's clear you know so. It's funny because we had dr jones on the podcast. The first time. And i thought it was a good idea and then we had him on again and i hadn't tried it. You know and finally said my gosh like dr jones and same with you right mike. Nate we gotta get this going and we have and we've noticed the difference right just using the toothpaste and also the nasal spray. We are breeding. Better we feel like we're you know we haven't gotten sick because of it. So what do you think makes what you do different or better than than what's out there today No because healthcare in america is really focused on making sick people better and that is a very very expensive way to manage healthcare. And you know what what. In my opinion what i think needs to be done as i think there needs to be. A a titanic shift in our cdc and our governmental agencies to push that equation back to where people are being motivated to stay healthy. I mean the cdc and the nih and all of these government organizations you know what they should be doing is programs out there in public health to keep people help and xylitol would be top of mind to almost oliver's those because it's such a cost effective way to manage your oral health and your airway. Hell yeah so. It's not a drug. And i wanna i wanna hone in on that with you if that's okay for all of us to understand that better. What is out. It's a sugar. It's a non hexa sugar and what that means is the sucrose glucose fructose and even the sort of six carbon sugar alcohols like Multiple all of those are six carbon sugars and most of the pathogenic bacteria in our bodies live and thrive off of six carbon sugars in the human body. We those sugars and we use them also but the amount of six carbon sugars that we as you as a human race have started to consume over the last six seven hundred years has just been ridiculously increased. If you go back you know. Let's just say five hundred years. We did not have refined sugar. Hey people ate fruit. Which is the main source for fructose in season so for two or three months a year. That was it other than that. We really didn't have a whole bunch of sugar that we were eating like. We're eating today. And so xylitol is a five carbon sugar. And there's other sugar alcohols like richard tall and all of these other non heck's ohs outta sugar alcohols. Sugars are very healthy for us. And we've shown in multiple studies over the past two decades that xylitol blocks bacterial and viral adhesion of all of these bacteria viruses. And one of the ways that you can get xylitol is using it toothpaste using it mouthwash using it in nasal sprays or you can get it by eating broccoli and cauliflower and woody fibrous clint because if you go back five hundred years that's where we got it and when you're looking at it systemically. There is a great paper that was published last year. It was a what was his name. Anthony ching dollar. And i know i'm saying it wrong. But it's a guy in france and he wrote this paper explaining how xylitol blocks adhesion and he was using specifically the kobe to buyers. How the paul blocks the ability of that virus to enter the tissue and the same thing as bacteria are using those same receptor sites and so the xylitol binds up on these receptor sites. And that just hangs out there and till the body needs and then it goes somewhere else but it's blocking those receptors sites for five six hours. That's amazing thank you for for highlighting that and Just blows my mind that a non-drug something like a b basically call it a five point. Sugar is helpful like this and it's not expensive and it's so easy to use the my wife and i have been using the clear knows flush and we do three to four flushes per nostril and we keep next toothbrush. I'll tell you where reading better it's a great thing and in the back of my mind just knowing that helping along with other social distancing and and cautions Helping myself and my family be healthier. It's awesome to be able to do. So how do you think you've improved outcomes. During these past few few months with the virus well as a as a business. There's an increased need for upper respiratory help products And so what we've done is obviously we. Have you know expanded with the ability to produce the products. I mean that's that in itself was a huge task because with half of the world shut down in a. We're trying to buy equipment so that we can actually make more products. We've bird worst. Getting more people overseas that are asking us to to make products for them. I mean we have been a couple of governments. In latin america that have actually expedited the registration process. They're allowing us or i should say allowing us. They actually asked us to put antiviral on the label so that they could sell it into the dominican republic and into haiti and into brazil. And some of these other countries and so that in itself is is also quite a difficult thing to to get done but we have done it because we think we have a great in here. And they've really stepped up to congratulations on that. I mean that's just something to be proud of. And as i understand to you guys have a new. I guess nationally recognized date. You wanna share that. yes we We had registered march eleven. Which is the one year anniversary of when the who declared this upper respiratory pandemic and we now have that listed on the register of days. How how they do that as the national. Wash your nose day and what we want to do with that is we just want to emphasize that not only during a pandemic an upper respiratory pandemic but the rest of the year also people should be washing their knows. It just seemed like a very suitable day to have that day. But i don't know if my data mentioned this but almost seventy five percent of the visits of primary two to primary care physicians are upper respiratory issues. It just makes sense. I mean you're getting ear infections and sinus infections. Colds flu allergy. All of those things are all started in the upper airway and so it just makes sense. That people should be washing their nose. Clean your nose. People so nate at the beginning of the of the podcast. Actually before we start recording you you had mentioned it. Took a hundred and fifty years for people to realize that it was important for us to wash our hands. You're hoping that it doesn't take that long to realize that we need to wash our noses correct. So in non similize. Who is a hungarian but he was living in vienna he wrote the first paper published the first paper in the i can't remember the vienna medical paper. Whatever was at the time but he published in there and it was just a paper saying hey you know what i started washing my hands between seeing you know sick people and dead people and and pregnant women and the rate of death of the women that he was the babies and the women that he was delivering went down to less than one percent k. The other doctors in the city or having a an epidemic of it's called purple fever and they were losing upwards of twenty five percent of the babies and where it comes from is the doctors would be doing dissections on dead people and they straight from there into a lady giving birth and so the doctors themselves were carrying that zied and giving it to their patients and summarize publishes papering said. Hey i just started washing my hands and minors down under one percent and all the other doctors laughed at and they mocking and they ran him out of town and it wasn't until fifty years later. That lister came up and said hey you know what maybe we should Disinfect our hands before we do surgery. Ben it wasn't until nineteen ninety. Eight that the cdc made it standard of care for doctors here in the united states to wash their hands between patients and the reason for that is because of the it was it was in nineteen ninety eight. It was a hep c. epidemic. Okay but that's what one hundred and fifty years later. You know something. We all understood since we were kids. Wash your hands but it took that long for for all of doctors get on board with doing now. It's unfortunate that it takes these things. And i mean nate. I'll be honest with you like you know we've always been hand. Washers the pandemic the covid nineteen virus has elevated it and Introduced really you guys and your philosophy are on those washing to us and to our community. So i'm grateful that you guys are sharing this message and you're spreading it and you're drawing parallels to these other pandemics and challenge is let's not be part of the masses here everyone listening and let's clean our noses. I invite you to clean your nose and earned the show notes. We'll have a link where you could access clear. It's a very low cost. It's so nice. And actually i was just learning about some other cool stuff that that they have. So you guys also have candy for kids and side didn't know you guys offered that i guess overall when you compare this xylitol to sugar you know i mean how is it carol calorie-wise and like i understand. You can also use it as a sweetener. It looks like sugar taste like sugar. The only difference to it is if you eat a lot of it or if you're drinking like you don't wanna make soap-opera you don't wanna make you know lemonade out of it because it has a. I can't remember the word but kohl's watered award. Which when you're using it in oral care products when you're using a nasal spray those are very beneficial but when you're doing that in your gut not so beneficial so if you eat a lot of you'll get it in an automatic diarrhea and your body will adjust to it and dr canon has actually pointed out that when your body just to xylitol is actually a prebiotic and so it actually feeds the good bacteria the healthy bacteria for people that have ibs and hamson these other gastrointestinal issues but he's published a couple of papers in the medical literature pointing out the by cutting out the heck saas sugars and going to you. Know five and four and three and two carbon sugars. You can actually clean up a lot of those gastrointestinal issues. Because you're switching over from an unhealthy microbial to a microbiome that is much healthier historically fascinating fascinating side. Just some some really neat stuff to think about. And so as you think about some of the setbacks you've had especially around this time or maybe even net what you have seen across the country what would you say. One of those is and what's been a key learning from one of those key. Learning i guess is learning to deal with the government. I think the government does more to stifle innovation. That's helpful than any other organization out there. I guess but no you just have to learn to navigate through dan. That's fair finding out the the path best pathway to get what you guys are doing so well at and really increasing the access to it and you guys are doing it in a in a really great way. You're you've increased production. What would you say you're most excited about today. i am most excited about the future. You know we have filed for emergency use authorization with with the fda. We're gonna push that forward. Our last communication was h. They wanna make it a drug because they understand that works but it's not going to be a drug so that becomes a non issue we just have to figure out how the messaging is that allows us to say what does without making it a drug and so that's part of what i think is interesting and then on the other hand. You have the ftc who's coming in and saying you know you don't have enough science and so as it's confusing but it's intellectually stimulating trying to navigate through that we put it that way and if we can get any of that done. I'm just excited to get this whole pandemic behind. I mean we have enough vaccines now for those people who wanna take a vaccine. I just wish that our cdc would start talking about other options because there is a huge chunk of the population out there. That just doesn't want to get a seat. And i think that our cdc and i think that our government should be looking for options for those people instead of just trying to ram the idea of a vaccine and saying hey this is the only solution i think they should be looking at any other solution. That may or may not help. We actually filed a petition with the cdc to ask them to discuss the topic of nasal sprays. Because it just makes sense and you know and if it's okay. I'd actually like ask your listeners to to sign that petition. You know you can go to our web page and there's a link to it right there on our web page you can read through it and if you agree with it you know sign up. Yeah so the petition is about making nasal sprays. Tell us a little bit more about it. It really just goes through the reasoning and the logic behind using nasal sprays nasal hygiene in light of the current. There you have it and then You guys will provide a link to that petition so folks if you if you're interested in in signing and if you feel like This is something you wanna line yourself up with by all means. Take up nate on the request to also sign the petition. I think it makes sense. I think it makes a lot of sense so nate be sure to give us. That link will put it in the show notes for everybody that wants to participate and You know before we close out our session today. I love if you could just give us a closing thought. Nate and the best place that the listeners could get in touch with you or your team. Should they have any questions. My closing thoughts is something that i always try to do. And that is be part of the solution. There's things that that people can do. But if you're always trying to be part of the solution then then you're probably going to be doing the right thing to get closing thought and i believe you guys are and i was excited to get you on to talk more about what you guys are doing to help us improve our health overall. I'm grateful that you came on to chat with us. If anybody wants to reach out or learn more work and they reach out it can go to. Our webpage is the easiest place they can. I mean they can email me. My email is native. Clear dot com and obviously our webpage. They can follow us on twitter. Instagram facebook. We have all those social media pages. The postings are pretty not very strong at all because of of our governmental oversight. I guess so. We can't really post that much of of the information that studies but you can follow us. As information comes. Available will forwarded as much as we can outstanding. Well we appreciate it. Nate and folks again. It's clear with an x x. l. e. a. r. dot com nate at x. l. e. a. r. dot com will leave those links inside of the show notes on today's episode and Nate just want to say thanks again. Appreciate all the work that you and your team are doing to help. Keep our country safe. Hopefully not just our country. Hopefully it's the world the world that's true you know. The majority of our listeners are in the states but certainly we do have our international listeners so the globe safe. I appreciate you correcting me there. Thank you guys really appreciate you. Tuning in nate. Thank you for being with us. You're welcome anytime rocket listeners saw marquez here i get what a phenomenal asset of podcast. Be for your business and also how frustrating it is to navigate editing production monetization and achieving the. Roi you're looking for technical. Busy work should stop you from getting your genius into the world. Though you should be able to build your brand easily with the professional podcast. 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The Front Table: 10/21/19
"HOOP DOT COM for more serious books for Curious Readers I'm Colin McDonald and let's have a look the music is different here. The vibrations the different thanks for reading and listening with us on this week's front table from the seminary club bookstores in Chicago brows each week's front table and subscribe to our free weekly email newsletter but I recent concept but in fact that stretches back to the ancient Greeks and kind of the reigning notion for centuries and centuries was decreed sorts from I donald that it's logically inconceivable there could be more than one universe that idea constricted or guided inquiries up until efforts posterity and what they have to tell us still stay where you are and we'll take you there three to one understand the cosmos by Tom Siegfried he is popular science writer and used the editor in chief for science news she is examining a similar question understand the very earliest moments of the universe by kind of seeking out these thirteen billion year old stars and looking though is looking at how this question has evolved from the ancient Greeks forward and particularly at conception of the multi-diverse a lay reader may believe it to be a fairly the Middle Ages and in the thirteenth century the bishops of Paris apparently in consultation with the pope announced that this was a last minute idea because told you I was looking forward to talking about astrology which goes to tell you I have a lot to learn about astronomy books about astronomy state of Humor Times Stran- me so Atlanta in preparation for today's conversation the front table I excitedly are we looking up at were down today all right we are starting with book called searching for the oldest stars by in astronomy at MIT named job description for an astronomer what what do they do and no one could provide a real answer so she's seeking to actually provide a type of answer in this book to open up the out there and get your little basket that's exactly it didn't clarify much for me but she's talking about attempts. Anna free bottle she is talking a bit about rather quite in depth about how a certain strain of her profession that excavates mysteries of the profession into the lay audience she compares it to the work that archaeologist do of course it comes up with this great term stellar superstars. There's a really great graphic in here that shows the excavation looks like it's just the same the same you take the shovel has got couldn't create whatever he wanted you don't know what God can do exactly yeah it's blasphemous to thank God would be limited to just merely basically at the chemical composition at the same time for still she's a pretty clear that this is a book for any level of strimmers one little anecdote she has at the beginning of we've ever thought of as the universe whether it's simply the Earth at the center of series of Nested orbs that whatever we've believed to be the universe at some point world has nothing to do with ours that is also in existence right now has been exactly but you bring up the question of what what is a multi verse and that's something verse and multi-diverse it's placing us in hours in them for look at what celestial events in misconceptions have said about God's impossibility and our own mail center that has always been fascinated by the sky the stars and she news as a kid as a teen she wanted to be an astronomer until she started asking anyone who seemed like they would have the answer you know what's the it has unfolded to become only part of our understanding and so what is right now considered a collection multi versus if that exists may one the parallel universe I believe refers to the notion of worlds that mirrors and this is opening up the idea that there could be a totally inconceivable multi-diverse which means parallel universe just to be clear right that's the numerator of universes this is not where my expertise is but a become the universe as our understanding of the develops it gets unified into something different type of understanding and then what is beyond me into nfl able what are the very elements of our elements more metaphorical sense what are the very elements of our universe how do we understand the universe whatever its components he working permission to think beyond these or what does it mean that at some point we shifted from reasons we're thinking about the multi verses because we're thinking about what God's Altschuler and Fernando Belus Taros it is just out from Oxford originally published in Spanish but just translated English leaded the Adams as maybe the latest of lay readers I have to ask or just pause from termer throwing around here looking at well what does it mean that as were confirmed plumbing the depths of the moon and shrine to map some sort of knowledge onto its surface we've quite literally reflected in the moon right the conceit of the book is that it is looking at the women after whom craters on the moon are named that woman was in doing so it's looking at the gaps in what our scientific knowledge gaps in our cultural knowledge if I'm nick attends means versus gathering new empirical information about what we see in the world around us and the worlds beyond US Erkki Elegy which turns out not just a really great but you know the archaeologist might pick it up next book we have is the number of the heavens a history of the multi verse in the Quest Under Sixteen hundred known craters named craters on the Moon Twenty eight of them are named after women and so it takes each of those twenty eight and goes through and gives a history of from ways that we've we've grappled with and tried to excavate our understanding of the universe route center straight and he is very focused on not just what was being thought in fifths this and looking only at the twenty eight versus one thousand five hundred fifty eight men who are commemorated if you were honored on the surface it from there that opened up more lines of inquiry most of them based on what that means for Christian University if there are multi verses are there Out Hundreds of thousands of important figures but those gaps or craters if you will tell us about a short comedic our scientific and cultural exploration hang hau culturally we stood at that time were where we've evolved or devolved since then we know what the moon landing meant and how it reflected premiered our culture so interesting to go back there especially in light and I know we'll touch on this the next book as well of the Fiftieth Anniversary of the moon landing which was also seen as this kind of pause points exactly that he is looking at the development of the conception of multi-diverse he seems to land on one idea that everything talking about the development of our knowledge about space the editor start with looking at Bronze Age artifacts that show are rendering human rendering of the celestial sphere this is absolutely beautiful this is the number sky disc made a bronze and gold in about two thousand BC so many ways to think and that brings us actually quite well to the women of the Moon Tales of science love sorrow encourage by a B C what was being taught in the thirteenth century of our age but what does it mean that this is how we define the universe at that time what does it mean that we were not allowed collect the excavation and how in this book we're not only learning about the history of our universe but tracing a kind of history of western thought right sort of looking at these I believe it was unearthed in Germany illegally and then they talk about some burial mounds in Ireland they move into these mix hieroglyphic astral charts in that I almost one I'll skip over that and talk about the larger project of the book which is talking about like with the number of the heavens really off the cosmos and then I mean just in this fascinating trying to bring up some works of has malevich the Russian constructivist talking about grading over time and what can we learn from this thing that's totally abstract how can we make it not abstract or how can we gain knowledge from the abstract in physicians Out in commemoration of the Fiftieth Anniversary of the moon landing but it is so expensive and goes so far beyond simply notion of space travel or achievements of NASA or something Ah yes so we're talking about not just the facial recognition there's alice over there but it is leaving out the craters named after the logical and fictional figures the tombs of Egyptian Pharaohs moving into I think a sun temple in Japan classical Greek statues of Atlas and so much including you know the difference between astrology and astronomy I think it's fascinating to find out that all of these books in so many ways come back to human culture love sorrow encourage by Daniel our culture in Fernando Jay bilas their Oxford and last but not least sun and moon spectacularly edited by Mark Auburn Holding the heavens ups fascinating look across the world at what our understanding because how we attempted to express are very limited understanding of published by fighting thanks for listening and looking with us and read with us next time on this week's front table Tau as we begin to develop abstract art how were able to then better understand the unknowns or at least feel the Con the Moon my guess was that just because more men look like craters right I mean I was super excited about that one but this one I think it's hard to contain your enthusiasm was the multi verse the unknown and these other things that we then have to learn about or to excavate that term it's interesting talking with this kind of those books again were searching for the oldest stars ancient relics from the early universe evasion it's just astounding I'd really spent way too long this morning looking at this book I love the we started this conversation Siegfried's book here is looking at what what does it mean that in the thirteenth century multi-diverse had to do with Damn Nipple of God these authors here in this book thinkers in what where we can go from there and not simply here's the history of great shut the book I'm GonNa go from here into also spending some time with son way is able to not simply explained depict a process of Thinki- development of thinking but also comes back to probe in some way what it tells you about the whereas with the unknown in the World Malevich is Black Square we see it not just as a black square but this incredibly intricate thing that's avoid but it's something that is also a it of course that makes sense that you know what we will we can know what we can observe contain out there starts in here right each of these in their own up next to what is totally unknown about the universe of images of blackness of the universe how we can gain comfort with that unknowing and still kind of pushed forward to further. I'm reading this book the Women of the Moon is how well it goes back to the number of heavens we were just talking about in terms of maybe a more vain outlook of how he wants one time to ourselves the planet very space is the place on this week's front table with Lana Jones is we look up or down at a veritable galaxy of new books about our when you actually is looking at the moon but safer route right this is sun and moon from fight on it says that it's been they said the grapefruit she talked about thank you thank you call them table from Princeton the number of the heavens history of multi verse in the quest to understand the cosmos by Tom Siegfried from Harvard the women of the Moon Tales of science totally different perhaps even more consequential way and just to be clear to the craters were talking mountain named after people. It's somebody looking at one saying that it looks like analysis.
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The Front Table: 7/16/19
"Thanks for reading and listening with us on this week's front table from the seminary co bookstores in Chicago brows each week's front table and subscribe to our free weekly email newsletter. It's some coop dot com for more serious books for curious readers since medieval times if not before writers like Francois Beyond Saint Teresa Viola Heaven showing not telling how to write about oneself. Let's have a look at how far we've come with the perpetually upgraded and mention no not the iphone Casandra that intentionally muddles the escape between fact and fiction remembrance and conjecture as co OP assistant manager landed Jones joins us once again at the front table with a short stack of new memoirs long in the making Lewis Hyde wrote very influential. Differential book called the gift which is sort of about the way that art as a commodity exists outside of capitalism anyway. His new book is called a primer for forgetting getting past the past and it's a kind of hybrid work <unk> as we described in our newsletter edition of the front table just a few weeks back of kind of memoir or Autobiography Cultural Criticism Scholarship. It's on my list and I'm here with Lana Jones talking about some other new and perhaps also hybrid works memoir that right yeah and if not actually hybrid works memoir I think they're doing something very interesting with the Memoir Forum or at least the self narration form the first one one. I'm particularly excited about is one hundred times by Chevy so would just out from seven stories press. This is one hundred instances of sexual harassment that this woman has encountered threat her life. It's organized just one encounter per page or two and yeah there's no escaping just kind of like the building clean up the piling on of of sexual harassment but a person can face during their lives and so by looking at it so methodically in so straightforwardly and just seems to be almost overwhelming but it's also ordered like she's bringing order. <hes> she's reclaiming these experiences and trying to bring some sort of order understanding to them something that would be just utterly destabilizing. Normally she's made this into this catalogue of experiences both so she can understand them herself itself so others can understand them. We call that a narrative catalog experience right. I mean I guess it is a hybrid of sorts in terms of bringing a different type of order to what we generally think of the narrative very interesting. Another one I pulled here is a father puzzle by silicon this lukens daughter from his first marriage they for very long time he had disavowed and of course he has his own deep deep theories about the patriarchal figure and so this is her ah seeming to reckon with it's not the father my father's a father what the figure of a father is for her father who disavowed her father. Who is the father of a lot of philosophical ideas that people looked up to mentor our way gave birth? You know we're going to go maternal about two very influential ideas throughout the twentieth century. Jacques Lacan had described the word as presence Absence Sibila on here turns to the. Language the memoirs means a piecing together the presence of a man who had entered her life in absence and in his passing finished in it wow another one I'll point out is Christopher heures into the White Renaissance Arctic and the end of the Image Mitch from Zone Books In this book. Eat is taking a lot of personal accounts of Renaissance Age explorations of the Arctic looking at that as the renaissance time of <hes> can reconstituting how Western civilization thought of knowledge and not certainty knowledge of the world graphical certainty and they enter the Arctic which is space totally unknown and unclassifiable seen as a white of this. They couldn't trace out mountains. They couldn't trace out a horizon because of <hes> strangeness of the Landscape Whereas Concurrent exploration of the new world there was kind of this mad rampant cataloging of new species new people new ways of life and get to the Arctic and they just find this void so. So he's looking at these different narrative formations of knowledge and people entering the great unknown those fascinating. It's also a good time for a book about the Arctic imaging imagination here in the dead heat of summer from Christopher hewer who will be. I think actually ascending on the COP yeah later. That's another one here collected schizophrenia. 's By s may wage hung Wang. This is something that's getting a ton of press of course booksellers here have read it. She's exploring exploring the experience of specific types of schizophrenia and she's trying to examine herself when she's having her episodes and she's not having our episodes and this on the one hand gives access for someone like me who doesn't face that giving access to that type of mine but also for her trying to map out her own experience those come to some sort of self understanding. I think <hes> <hes> trailblazer by Dorothy Butler Jillian a pioneering journalist fight to make the media look more like America America. She was the first black woman writing for the Washington Post and this is her own just really compelling surprising history here just a couple months ago. It's interesting to look at a book like trailblazer the way that you're talking about the collected. <unk> schizophrenia and a hundred times into the white it's making me rethink a book like trailblazer which I would have looked at sort of more traditional memoir worker nonfiction kind of a bag or for your autobiography of just saying this is my experience. You're welcome kind of thing and I'm looking at this and thinking well. I wonder what the process of writing this book shaped her own understanding of her experience. especially how that writing is different from the writing she was. I mean obviously she's writing every single day for the Washington Post how they experienced this type of writing is different from the daily Aley writing she was doing the contrast and the overlap between the two those lives or books again where one hundred times a memoir of sexism by travec woods from seven stories press a father by Sevilla con from M._I._T.. Press into the white the Renaissance Arctic and the end of the image by Christopher P heure from zone books the collected schizophrenia by as May wage on Wang published by great with press and trailblazer a pioneering journalist fight to make the media look more like America by Dorothy Butler Gilliam published by Center Street read for yourself at.
Getting in touch with our haptic sense
"Hi It's only in the mind on our in Omlund Malcolm. Today we coming to grips with touch all more accurately our haptic senses some people would make work a distinction between touch which are things that sort of come in contact with the skin and can be under passive conditions. You're arresting your hand on the table and you feel the surface of the table just as you're risking it and helped X. which really in terms of its sort out of pure definition involves both the sense of touch and can a seizure cause headaches involves active touch. It's not the premises now risking my hand on the table. It's if I want to find that this amok on the table or is being scratched I will move my finger across the surface and and that is called active touchable haptic sensing today producer Diane Dean Guides is through the sensory world of Hap- Dick's and that was Lana Jones Department of Mechanical Engineering M._I._T.. In Cambridge Describing how passive sense of touch tunes into an active since sending information to our brain about an object's texture temperature and movement so how'd you allow someone to touch over a distance and you're talking about someone working on an object in space or working on an object under the sea where there's a robot operator and the human operator is operating the robot from a distance. How do they feed back those sensations that the machine is encountering encountering to the human operator they found that without touched the machines were really imperfect? David Parisi associate professor of emerging media at the College of Charleston whose interest in how signals travel around the body with motivated by a combination of life events after a family member had a bad accident when I was fourteen my sister was involved in a car accident left her paralyzed from the waist down and before that I hadn't really thought much about how how information travels around the body about how contingent regular operations of our bodies are on the successful movement of signals around the body for one point in the body to the next point and how easily those movements and be interrupted routing those signals around around the damaged portion of the spine seem like it could present up solution to these sorts of injuries except that in one of the things that I learned was that the data of tactile sensations as it turns out is just wildly complicated right and it doesn't lend itself healthy easily to translated by machines and then fast forward a couple of years to the first time that I helped vibrating video game controller somewhere around the late nineties is struck me that these feedback mechanisms in the video controller were attempting to accomplish <unk> exactly the thing that type of digital encoding in translation that I was thinking of a few years earlier albeit diminished forms right so they couldn't translate data that precisely but they were attempting to transmit some sort of tactile L. information through the controller Ms. I started looking into this technology. I realized that vibrating video game controllers were only the tip of the iceberg that was at the time of very mature and maturing field of HAP- Dick's a rapidly maturing body of engineering unerring research attempting to solve this problem of how to capture store and transmit touch sensations and indeed. It's no simple measure to collect a wealth of sensory data about objects and then funnel them all to a mind in order to tell us what the object might be not only that AL sensors also can be misled by the data and present us with a haptic allusion then it Jones the information that comes from the skin an and comes from sensory receptors in the muscles tends to travel in the same pathways the some segregation obviously in this medicines record Eq and then those inputs transferred to other areas superior product accord experience it comes together gather overseas so that when you feel an object it's not you feel these discreet properties us sense everything altogether. The one sensory system from the skin that is separate from this that is involved also in haptic sensing is temperature sensing so we're able to extract information about some of the properties of objects by the fact that <hes> skin may cool or warm on contact in that tells us something else about what we making contact with us and its properties of its mantle. This is a plastic but this is something that's cold from the frigerator. Is this something that's just come out of the oven all that helps us identify some of the properties of what we working with it. Sometimes we're saved by the man we with weight this. How does that work so there are a lot of ways well not a lot of weight illusions but in comparison? Harrison other hectic allusions we can be deceived by volume things that <hes> larger with the same way as a smaller object perceived to be lighter than the smaller object with the same weight shape fix our perception of weight the density of the object even the surface texture and temperature so surprisingly cold objects feel heavier than warm objects neutral temperature objects with the same weight so most often illusions represent a if you like a disturbance from the normal patterns we go on these assumptions that make sense to us push the time at a sings at a lodge typically heavier so Sony Win The really strong discrepancy between our expectation and our experience these allusions manifests themselves so they representative your light the normal processing of information that gives us some certainty about how we interact with the world but in this case is anomalous we kind of seeing differences alerting us to the difference correct you know objects Yeah Diane Dean Speaking With Clinic joins when David Parisi was just getting interested in headaches he went to a show by the confrontational performance artist still arc who passed electricity through the bodies of the audience as a means consuming remote control of them as I started to look into this issue I was also just getting initiated into media studies and media studies really concerned with the transmission of images and sounds and it seemed like half dicks was taking up that question how do we transmit touch and doing so in a way that was very much aware of the potential of this technology to up end the way that we communicate or is if you look at a literature unhappy ticks all the Titians in the nineteen eight thousand nine hundred eighteen ninety s or talking about this as a way to transform the way that we communicate over distance so it was a really interesting technical problem but they were trying to solve a technical problem that had significant social political and cultural ramifications stations if they're able to solve that problem the way that they thought they could and an added complication is that hefty data is relayed in a hierarchy depending on the type of thing we want to know and which the senses can tell us the most about it at that that particular instance we do know that you know in terms of the sort of metrics that we use to understand sensory systems and some of those are related to how fast things a process temporal processing and then the other part of that is spatial processing assisting <hes> you know how we understand the extent of objects or events in the world that touched and hectic as an intermediary cents so and terms of temporal pro single dishes the best if you think if you know speech and everything else that are is acutely attuned to process it is better than both touch and vision but touches better than vision in those metrics but then with respect to special processing vision is obviously the superior sins and then it's hectic and then it's audition so it it isn't and meteorology in terms of its processing so look at sort of comparing how efficiently they can access information and make decisions about it depending on the sort of particular properties of the events being presented we see these dramatic differences and performance <hes> so those are a hierarchy dependent on the nation at hand. Yes Diane Dean within it Jones Historically HAP- deeks have been explored from the perspective of our other senses through our ears and voice <music> judging have a high rocky accumulated data could be channelled to us sense of touch it gave rise to a machine called Atelli texture and a language called Vibrio tease. The development of the fueled <unk> begins in earnest in the late eighteen hundreds on the eighteen nineties and what they're trying to do is they're trying to subdivide the sense of touch into its different components sensations so different systems responsible for sensing temperature different nerves responsible for registering wait different nerves that allow for the perception of vibration and so on so they're trying to subdivide touch and then they're also trying to figure out just how good those nerves are at the discerning the differences between different. How good is the skin at gauging very slight increases in temperature weight at judging the difference between different vibrations but this knowledge just kind of sat there for a few decades? No one really knew how to apply diet and it was really with the Tele actor that they started to use this very technical knowledge about how touch function in a practical way so that tells detector basically was an attempt to transmit speech. Speech sounds through the fingers and what researcher Robert Gull did working in the nineteen twenties was he took very much inspired by Bell's work in a telephone he took a speech sounds and divided them into five five different bands one band for each finger and he designed this device which he called the Tele actor that would allow speech to be routed through the hand with the idea being that once it passed through the skin and reached the brain the brain could be trained to reconstruct those sensations vibration as speech sounds kind of a neural plasticity of the brain that posited goal was really taken up by this device he spent about twenty years of his life working on it and he thought that it could be used as a means of restoring hearing to the deaf me described at one point and I love this phrase has grafting mechanical ear upon the skin so this is like one of the very early phases in research on touch how we use touch to transmit speech a couple of decades later Paul Becky Rita using a kind of similar principle thought that he could use touch to transmit images through the skin he designed to device e called tactile television is basically an array of vibrators against the back. It'd be projected onto the back and connecting that array of vibrators to a camera he could effectively create black and white images on the skin so the vibrators that were active the ones that were vibrating were black the ones that were inactive or white and he could teach people to see basic shapes using this tactile television system which was initially in its first iteration really cumbersome so the user there had to be sitting in basically a modified dentist's chair in order to be able to use the devices CDs really rudimentary shapes and images so it wasn't very practical the other technology you mentioned vibrant tease kind of a similar principle there to effectively working as a type of bodily Morse code five vibrators each position at a different point on the tour so each one capable of producing three steps of intensity so low medium and high three steps of duration short medium and long so basically like each vibrator had nine characters vibrators nine characters this gave the researchers working on this project forty five characters that they could assign letters and numbers to so the idea being that you could pass language you could route language through the skin with this very efficient mechanism that would actually be faster at sending messages to the receiver than Morse Code would be itself is sort of modified form a more active in the nineteen fifties mostly funded by the U._S. Office of Navel Research as a way to facilitate faster military communication for soldiers in the field <unk> streets here like history of disability on the one Japan History Military Technology Notre communication on the other hand associate professor of Emerging Media David Parisi and enticing as the teletech to sounds they still huge potential in haptic research in the future so there's various ways that the development of this technology impacts other areas so for neuroscience I would say maybe more on the rehabilitation brain machine interface area trying to understand for example someone who has a prosthetic limb who has no tactile feedback. How do we present feedback to them? You know do we put nerve cups around the remaining muscles in the limb. Do we have an artificial sensor that detects takes contact and then presents bribe ration- further up the limb and that effective people come to feel that as being realistic experience of moving their fingers their PR- acidic fingers across the surface. How does the brain rewire itself? If we start presenting information sort of up the forearm for what's going on in an extension of the forearm that doesn't real so I think those sort of questions in terms of the Spatial Organization of the brain plasticity the best way of presenting information so that people learn to process these signals and a somewhat intuitive way that they don't require a lot of cognitive load or concentration in order to understand what's going on and they prefer device so I think I would see the impact much more and things like that and also as aids for the visually impaired you know we try and develop systems that provide them with much more information about the real world. They can't extract visually and that's why things like touchscreens. Surfaces and abysses that potentially may present information or give them a bit of feel for something spatially that is very difficult to extract and any sort of medium now I would see that as much more on area of neuroscience and haptic interaction action don't Delineate Jones. There's nowhere left to go nowhere except the oasis you'll with all in the mind on Arran. I'm Malcolm and today Diane Dean takes us by the HAPTIC glove to explore the latest in touch technology aside from virtual worlds such as that shown in the film ready player one this the practical remedial application of haptic technology but with the advent of online shopping. Perhaps there's the possibility to use touch in marketing is one side likely to win out. I don't see the remedial side is necessarily necessarily taking over and I think that we'll continue to see attempts made in both areas and I think the success of efforts in both of these areas really contingent on not just building good technology. It's technology that works <music> but building technology that works outside of the lap right that people are going to find has a practical value and I think this is one of the things that people who work in the area of haptic sometimes struggle with that question of translation so we have have this thing that we're really excited about this. Maybe works exceptionally well at doing what we wanted to do. But does it necessarily have a use value in someone's day to day life right so you mentioned application in online shopping. What can touch add to that process? Is it transformative or is it merely just sort of layering like an extra little sensation onto something that you're already engaging initially would say in terms of their remedial prostates question there. There's been an extraordinary amount of progress in the last few years that I think we're still kind of coming to terms with David Parisi and the field attracts a wide range of students. Let's imagine a haptic Spano one course what do they study Dr Jalen it joins optics is really interesting field to working because it's people from all sorts of disciplines so you'll get people in neuroscience cognitive science mechanical or electrical engineering computer science because there are all sorts of different pieces that <unk> sort of all fit together so it's not that it's a typical stream from one academic discipline. Obviously I'm GonNa Department of Mechanically Aaron whom the people that I work with tend to be <hes> primarily interested in building technology displays evaluating them but when you build displays or look at new motor actuator technology you always need to understand if it's relevant to help people would perform using the display or whether it has any advantage in performing certain sorts of Tassio you always need to understand all those aspects as not sufficient just to build a display an an assume it has performance metrics based on the motors and all the control systems that you have you always need to have the human in the loop in terms of your evaluation so students who do have ticks wchs courses will learn across the disciplines. I learned about display technologies actuators senses. I need to know some nearest science and understanding sort of the properties of the senses and the skin and muscles and how that information is relayed to the brain if there little more interested in what we call septic rendering which is how you present vitual <unk> accused then you'll have a much heavier load on computer science and learning to develop sort of the algorithms that you need in order to create realistic experiences in virtual the world so it really spans quite a gamut of different areas of expertise. What about gamers are they interested? They are and there are certainly some sort of companies out there that have put their technology into gain control is I think a lot of the early technology was just pretty crude in terms of what it presented to people you know it was sort of rubble vibration motors in an a game pad <hes> as you went over rough surface narrowed or as you fired a shot to a alien or opponent and so I think this being a drive more recently to increase the level of sophistication of the feedback one of the challenges there is just cost. You know it depends in order to get high fidelity. You always see need more expensive systems there and that increases the cost and then that's a consumer market. You've gotta decide you know what the payoffs and benefits aren't the cost of the technology. You're heading into the device just taking the human momentarily out of the loop at the same time as learning the myriad of. Wii Our sense of touch operates way also attempting to teach machines what are these to touch something and how to tell humans what robotic touch is David Parisi so here I would say what I think is interesting. Interesting and significant is the way that these two research tracks kinda developed in parallel so back in the nineteen nineties Monty. I'm Yvonne founded the touch lab the laboratory for human and machine HAP- Dick's at M._I._T.. He divided the study of haptic up into these three research area. So there's human haptic on the one hand you know how to humans feel on how to humans touch. There's machine haptic on the other hand so how'd machines touch how to machines feel. How can we build machines that can sense and feel in similar ways to humans? Do what sorts of mechanisms do we need to embed in a machine in order to give it something that approximates the sense of touch and then there's a discernment meeting being moment this meeting point of those two fields human machine haptic sorta depends on research in both human and machine haptic developing <hes> people doing research in those areas and then trying to allow the human and machine to meet at this point of contact. That's where the desert haptic interface happens in is the machine feeling incensing Kenneth Feed those sensations that it's feeling incensing back to human in such a way that it's intelligible intelligible insensible to the humid pieces the very interesting question that I don't necessarily have a great answer for but is question of what counts is sensation. What does it mean for a robot to feel in the very material centuries when robots since his temperature when robots since his weight it does so in a way that is far more precise than a human but it also doesn't sense that data as tech tilt at right in the resist just registers it as sort of non differentiated form of data so the question we might ask there is do the human senses work in a similar way? I mean this is kind of what motivated a lot of that early research search into sensory substitution that we talked about earlier so the Tele actor tactile television assumes that touch functions is a type of universal translator among different sense modalities gall even said that all of the senses are basically basically just modified forms of touch with robot sensations. We might ask a similar question. What does it mean to say that a robot touches you know what does it mean to say? That robot sees is the robot is ultimately just taking in data from those sensors and rendering as data and the challenges don't stop there. Dr Lynette joins so one big challenges in both robotics and prosthetics is creating. If you like an electronic skin the consents like our skin can but it's for us so we can put a hands in water they can be subjected to require a considerable range of temperatures. We can scrape them across rough surfaces smoothies and we we can really a braid the surface for send those senses are never affected unless we do something really quite violent to the skin and creating that level of robustness and tactile senses that we put either on prosthetic or robotic hands. It's been a real challenge. We can develop the technology but to make so it's not fragile so it can withstand the sort of insults that we normally affect our hands with is very difficult task because the services are not self renewing as asking right right right and now census beneath you know we have arranged in the in the hairless skin on a hand dog labor skin we have four different types of sensors at defense dips under the skin and they all pick up specific cues about context and related to the central nervous system and then we have Thermo Census and we have our senses and Harry's so just have this vast number of senses and there that even when a few fail you know we have estimated to be around seventeen thousand McKenna received is just in the skin of the hand so to have that array of senses all transmitting information being processed assist in real time and a artificial devices <hes> quite a formidable engineering challenge year enormous don't Delineate Jones an interesting fact about science generally is that study of one particular Ezekiel Facet is sometimes transferred to study in another area and can be taken up by painters and artists for example the development of linear perspective alongside optics experiments or. Early studies on hate which later applied to the study of sound. I'll we luckily to see the creation of new sensors or new art forms with the development of Haptic Technology David Parisi that process of discovery that you're talking about right where new knowledge in one area leads us to the discovery of new aesthetic forms or a greater appreciation of that sense I think with haptic would really fascinating to me is in some ways. This is kind of already happened within the field of haptic itself so if you talk to people who work in the field and this goes back you can talk to engineers who are active in the field now psychologists who are active in the field now but you can also go look back at the archival level material and one of the things that they constantly say is really motivated by this belief that touches an underappreciated or neglected sense modell right that we don't really understand fully how it works so part of what's what's motivating them a lot of researchers in this field described feeling sort of isolate rather like the only people studying touch everyone else's like working on vision or sound and they're like Austin their little corner <hes> working on touch and part of the thing that I think keeps them coming back to it. Is this notion that they're in on a secret that other people haven't yet gotten clued into right. They understand exactly how a rich and complex the sense of touch is because they've studied it in this really early careful way and for the engineering community they're constantly trying to do things with machines that allow these machines to transmit into capture into store one very particular one very small slice of touch touch information. I said the victories in the field of HAP- Dick's oftentimes like if you're an outside observer they look kind of small but they're one you know at the cost of decades of research right just just refigure at one small all component of this puzzle that is touch right so I think that's sort of the state of where we're at now in terms of where it's going to go in the future. This is where things get from my perspective very interesting because we don't really we know right. We have an imaginary of where it's GonNa go. If you watch you know science fiction films over the past few decades most recently ready player one. It's always ends in a body. It always ends in this haptic body suit that allows people to touch coach feel in a computer generated world photo realistic world just like they would touch and feel in real life and that's a really seductive endpoint for the technology but it's also quite at odds with the on the ground wound research that have titians are doing in their day to day work but if you want like a nice sampling of where this research is headed one of the things that's that's a lot of fun for me to do is just to look at the types of devices that are getting patented and see the techno scientific imaginary that people are thinking about touch through did are good enough for us to want to touch through technology when we talk about how we talk a lot through computer graphics. You know what it's like to reach in and feel an object. It's not really there but the first step before we had a computer graphics the military and the space industry were very interested in remote manipulation so how'd you allow someone to touch over a distance where there's a robot operator and the human operator is operating the robot from a distance. How do they feed back those sensations that the machine is encountering to the human operator when they tried to design these remote manipulation machines they found that without touched the machine's really imperfect because it's really hard to manipulate? Something can't feel David Parisi associate professor of emerging media at the College of Charleston South Carolina and author of archaeologists of touch published by University of Minnesota Press. M._I._T.'s motto is Mens Manas the mentally believe in that mind is fine but you need hands to you need to have the physical interaction with objects to understand their properties and I think we move much more and more into a computer based world we do lose some of that's familiarity that people would have had with physical systems the decades ago Dr Nate Jones from the Department of Mechanical Engineering Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge U._S._A. and she's author of headaches published by the M._I._T.. Press essential knowledge series.
Ep. 21 SSLA Leadership Team
"Women seek to have a win win philosophy sitting at the table. It's not about you. It's not about me. Is that we win for what we're trying to do. Together i attended an event One of the joint women's leadership symposiums. Sla put on. I was so amazingly impressed. At how empowering it was and it it was not just a bunch of women sitting around complaining. Well as me and and it was brilliant. Powering it it helped me understand how i could be a better leader. How i could be a better marine. I was inspired. It just moved me so deeply. Hello listeners this is taking her lead. I am joshua. Everett mayor. And i'm janina konta lotto here. We strive to give women a platform to tell their stories and explain how they lead these conversations. Give us unique insights into the impact. Women in leadership can make in transforming the way we work and live. Today's interview is with the amazing leadership. Team of the cease services leadership association. We'll get to chat with retired master. Chief lana jones lieutenant. Colonel jenny storm lieutenant. Corran powers and lieutenant commander. Laura stegar also holds a women's leadership symposium each year which gives women in the military and opportunity to meet with hundreds of follow servicewomen. This is the largest gathering of women in uniform nationwide and what a dynamic group of interesting women from diverse life experiences. Today i loved hearing how they all made their decisions to serve in the military and how their career paths of evolved. After hearing this episode women everywhere will be inspired and so grateful that this caliber of women serve in the us military's leaders these influential and highly successful women modeled. There approaches with us by speaking with great vulnerability humility and passion. The armed services are very fortunate to have their leadership without further ado. Please enjoy our guests from the sea services leadership association on taking her lead. Welcome it's a real privilege to be recording with each of you as My conversation started regarding the organization with theresa months and months and months ago. This has been something. I've been very excited about and very passionate about what you're doing. This is a real privilege. And i appreciate it. Well welkom man. I'm so excited to have this opportunity to hear all of your stories and your journeys. And i know that our listeners are going to get so much. Don't you go ahead. oh my gosh. I was hoping that jenny was going. Oh gosh So so. I'm currently the treasurer for the surpluses leadership association. I retired in twenty eighteen After thirty one years and four months of active duty I retired as the deputy mash. Sheep announcer the coast guard. Which is the second senior enlisted. I had the privilege of serving. Four commandant paul zuccotti when he was in charge and directly working for both the vice comment on at the time And the mashed. She petty officer the coastguard. So i provided them advice and guidance. Direct them in the best ability that i could Based off of thirty one years of experience today. I am a licensed home inspector in the state of washington oregon. Quite a divergence from being command master inspector But a little bit of that is what served me while. I was on active duty which is seeing and saying yet. That's not what i would expect in. I can do better. And so jumping on that bandwagon. So i ended up as Chief for the last half of my coast. Guard career in hamas specter. Because of what. I saw as not a good representation of the people who are paying good money to get good advice on a very lofty investment. That they're about to make and so i jumped on that and You know to to go to the part about what drove me to where i ended up votes in the coast guard and at the end of the day sitting near talking to you is the motivation like i said of. I can do better for the people. And i will try my best to do it and so you know to me. That's what makes me happy as is at the end of day. Did i do my best and with that person at the end of the day. Recommend me for help for a job. Whatever it may be so just that in that comes from what my mom still messes. Kids is do your best every day and if you fail well why did you fail and then pulling your bootstraps up and moving onto the next grade adventure. You're gonna make mistakes. They're called stepping stones. So step across and move on so that that's just how i kind of looked at my career in the coast guard. And then what i'm doing now is how can i. How can i best help. People get to where they need to be. And you know this gift. Great segue. And if i'm talking to josh just tell me to know to cut it but You know women having been in the senior leadership position for so long you do a lot of research on women in leadership. And how can i be better. How can i do better in one of the things that i read one time. That was like almost an aha moment for me. Is that women. Seek to have a win win philosophy sitting at the table. It's not about you it's not about me. Is that we win for what we're trying to do together so that i think help guide me what i was doing. I was was Serving the senior leadership position of the coast guard in fact every day from the day i came in as like. How can i make it to where we win. Not meet win. That's a. I'm gonna put the beginning of the episode percents nicely done. Thank you to be a member of the military. Were you the person or did you have a role model in your family. No i was. I was definitely the first to serve my grandpa served in world war two. But you know that was. That was a different time. So if you look at conscripts versus volunteer. I volunteered to join in a dead. Thank you for your service. Thank you sir. Appreciate it absolutely up next. So this is john and i'll go ahead and an end ramble here. A bit I i had a very Not clear path. I think some people begin in their lives. And they're just blessed to you know feel moved or called to something at a young age and that was definitely not the case for me Currently i'm the president of sla I've served as the treasurer in the past and marine corps rep. I've been on the board for quite some time I've been in the marine corps. Now for twenty one years. It's a little weird to say anything more than twenty Twenty one. Because i could leave at any time if i desired to but i don't But it was really almost accidental Throughout my childhood I felt like my mom had a lot of children that there were six of us and there were times that it felt like she was really trapped in some difficult situation and i always looked at her and thought you know she doesn't have any options she Had graduated high school She always a mom. And you know we had no options you know. We have to stay in the situation that we're in and so my mantra throughout life was i'm going to make sure i have options and so I got one college degree after the next I made sure. I didn't get pregnant at a young age because i didn't want to get strapped down with children that would limit my options. It was always about opening doors ultimately had gotten married at a young age and decided After a while that that was a bad decision and My my chicken outweigh of. Getting out of the marriage was Also coincided with a way to try and advance my career. I was frustrated. After having attained a master's degree and not been able to find a job. I interviewed at three places but I felt like my academically. I'd always succeeded at things associated with not been hired after interviewing with three people. I was just crushed so Someone suggested the military. And i thought hey that could give me some good leadership experience and oh by the way it will force me to move and sell the house and and make dissolving this marriage easier so i think i came in the marine corps for mostly all the wrong reasons Or maybe i should say. I came into the military for mostly all the wrong reasons. I ended up in the marine corps because When i went to the recruiting offices Where i was the four main services were lined up in a row army navy air force marines right in a row in a in a strip center and i thought air force down to cool. And that's the door. I went to and it locked. Who was lunchtime. They'd gone out for lunch so i just went to the next open door. I didn't have any family in the military. So i really had no preference one service over the next walked in and the marine recruiters did a fabulous job selling me You know they see they see a female walk in and they need. They need numbers And they sold me and the things that appeal to me was the fact that you know if i was gonna do the military and try and get this leadership experience. The marine corps is you know has has the reputation for being the hardest. So yes i want to do the hardest one. Because then it'll be the greatest accomplishment and it had the fewest percentage of women which made it an even bigger accomplishment. It was it was all about like. Hey if i'm going to challenge myself. I'm gonna do it all the way and so i jumped in with both feet and I remember in training. They would talk about you. Know all of us young officers because i already had college degrees so i said yeah. I look at pay scale. Obviously i'm gonna come in as an officer. They would talk about you know. Hey why are you in the marine corps and all the young ladies i want to lead marines and and that was not my motivation. It really wasn't. It was also fish but you fast forward a few years and and the marine corps. Don't get to me and It has become a love of serving. And i had so many wonderful mentors as i came along and then realize that i was influencing other people and that i could influence other people for good just the way i felt like my life had been influenced for good. I could do the same thing. I enjoyed it and it's really. What excites me still today. i move up in rank and i have different responsibilities in different jobs but at that time that i can have that one on one with somebody and somehow feel that at the end of the day i've impacted them for the better whether or something in their personal life which career wise. I've inspired them. And that's what really motivated me to keep going. I feel like there's not enough senior females in the marine corps who have children and so that's the other piece for me you know looking for a role model so many of the senior women Just had no children. Maybe they were married. Maybe they weren't but they they didn't have kids. And so this idea that. In order to be successful i can't have a family and there's not that many role models yet that at least in the marine corps in my eyes not that many role models that showed both hey i can be wildly successful and have a family so i have felt motivated to continue on as long as marine corps will continue to have me because i have a family. I have three kids. i married being. A mother is insanely important to me as being marine. So i think. That's what motivates me to continue staying in now and then ultimately what motivated me to join us. Sla in stay with sa as long as i have is because of the same type of thing the mentoring that opportunity to be a role model To try and inspire and encourage the younger women Who are joining the services. Thank you for your candor and vulnerability. That's a powerful story your role models and your sources of inspiration. I would really be interested in knowing what qualities you saw in them that you wanted to emulate. What is it that they were doing or inspiring in you that you thought I i want to be like them. What were they doing. and what were their qualities. I think for a lot of them. It was their confidence and their compassion So they they were confident in what they were doing. And they just exhibited this aura of of calm of of having right and yet if they made a mistake very willing to admit that they made a mistake but they they moved through confidently and they were compassionate and so they took the time. I mean some of the chief of staff who just recently retired from the the unit. That i'm with now one of the things i love about him. Every time i'd walk into his office no matter how busy he was he would stop what he was doing. A hundred percent. Stop no looking at the computer screen. No finishing type in an email. Nothing completely stop and give me his full attention and i think that type of leadership that says the missions important. And what i'm doing important and i'm gonna get a smart as i can about it and i'm gonna i'm gonna do my job and confident in an intelligent way but i'm also going to stop and give the people my undivided attention when that is what's needed. Because it's the people that make the organization the people and to be able to accomplish the mission and and having that focus and and valuing them and their time. I think those are the people who i have admired the most and wanted to emulate As much as possible. Well thank you. I I love hearing that because it's human to human. It's the connection right. It's not has nothing to do with so much being in the military. It's it's respect for one another no matter what job you're in naturally thank you. Anyone else won't introduce themselves This is karen. And i am a lieutenant. In the united states coast guard. I have been serving for eighteen years as of this year. And unfortunately what brought me to the coast guard. was not the most positive of the circumstances Ended up being. Truly the best decision. I could have made in the moments So i have a pretty complicated and traumatic backgrounds. i unfortunately from a very early age Was put into A pretty abusive traumatic situation With with my birth mother She ended up putting me up for adoption at age. Four due to some violence With my stepfather. Who basically at the time made her choose between keeping me and staying married to him And so obviously we. We know what you choose So i ended up in the foster system For a few years and ended up getting adopted by my current family who unfortunately also had Many complicated issues on that led to a lot of sexual and physical abuse over the years So by the time. I was the age to really start considering what i wanted to do with my life and get out of that circumstance. I didn't i didn't really know what to do. And what. I was fortunate to have in. My life is is my father figure. My grandfather who is a retired chief master sergeant from the air force Who the senior My summer going into my senior year of high school Pulled me aside and said hey you know. Have you ever considered joining the military And i said no. And what's ironic about. That is i grew up in colorado springs colorado which is a heavily populated military region with between the army and the air force Parents were army civilians exposure to the military. But no one really in my realm that i knew had had been in the military and so my grandfather had approached me on this and was like why in the world would i ever do that And he actually told me to do some research he's like. I think this might actually be a fit for you. So i ended up watching a documentary on the coast guard. And this is in summer of two thousand one and then nine eleven happens and everything changed for. Everyone and i was really impressed from from very early on. Not only the coast. Guard's response during nine eleven. And if you're not familiar with it. I highly encourage you to take the time because if you to talk about leadership Especially at a very junior level. It's truly incredible. What's very junior personnel in the us coastguard able to do on nine eleven in new york harbor so between learning that little piece of it and then also understanding that in the coast guard. There were no jobs that were limited for me that i could do anything that i wanted. As long as i met the qualifications Having that opportunity was something that was very important to me from a very junior I always wanted to be equal. I've i've always believed that women can do everything that men can do. Not every woman can do that but a there are women that can do incredible things that men do as well and so for me. That was a that was a huge priority. And one of the major reasons why. I chose the coastguard so i met with a recruiter You know in the nearest recruiter to me was actually denver. Her so i had to write a greyhound bus. Every time i went to go meet with my recruiter and i ended up signing my contracts january thirtieth of two thousand two and. I ended up leaving for boot camp a couple of months after graduation and really the rest is history It's been a nonstop adventure since then I just everything that has happened. Since then. I i'm just so grateful for thank you for sharing that you know when i hear you speak. I realize that sometimes in the biggest tragedies and adversity we face as a country there are still people watching and inspired you know. I think about how many people watch that day and became firefighters. You you know recognizing that you wanted to be part of the coast guard. I i think that that's that's incredible that It's in the moments of probably our biggest tragedies that here Being a hero and being brave and courageous inspires people when no one realizes they're being watched it's incredible crew mix for bulenda. Sure some difficult things. Of course i think we need to hear from laura. This is laura. So i am the public affairs officer for sla. I've been in the navy now for a little more than fourteen years. And when i think back to what inspired me to join the navy i think it would probably have started when i was in about the fourth grade. I remember going to the library which i often did. I was a total bookworm. And i saw a book there about the navy and i had no family members other than grandparents uncles who were in the military. I didn't know much about the military at all. But as i noticed looking through this book there are photos of women serving in the navy and until that point. I didn't realize that women could be in the military. Because i never had any personal connection no female role models who had served in the navy or in the military at all so that kind of planted a seed for me and i think the see. Just kinda stay dormant for the rest of my time in elementary school and the first couple years of high school And then my senior year really my junior year. Trying to think of what i wanted to do after high school. I knew i wanted to go to college. I didn't really have any direction. As far as what. I wanted to study What college typically to go to. I knew i wanted to get out of my hometown. Small town in massachusetts that i grew up in do do something adventurous. But then like coron. I was a senior in high school when nine eleven happened and unfortunately it hit really close to home my small hometown of drake at massachusetts My friend laura Her dad john. Jonoski was the pilot of american airlines flight. Eleven That hit the world trade center towers so it was a very personal thing for our town and i remember a few days later. Our school held her memorial service. And i think it was probably the next day. I walked down to the breakfast table. And i talked to my mom and dad and i said i really think that i need to be grown now and i want to join the navy and i think my parents were a little surprised I think they just expected that i would go to college. And start a career and haven't not be in military service that my parents are really supportive. And my dad especially He took me to the officer recruiter. I think the next week and we started the process and he was always my biggest cheerleader Throughout that i remember him taking me to our track at our high school with a stop. Watch making sure. I could make those run times to pass the initial physical screening So after that it was it was pretty much it for me and i look back at the last fourteen years and all the experiences. I've had that. I'm just so grateful for and i think what's what's keeping me in is. It's the people the people that i've had the privilege to work for until lead in all their unique stories and how they inspire me and hopefully how i inspire them. And i've always told myself that i'll stay in until it stops being fun and for me every day even the bad days have a little bit of fun in them I can't imagine what i'm gonna do. Once i leave the navy. The thought kind of scares me a little bit. So i hope we stick around for the next six or so years so You know. I think our listeners would want to know a little bit about what s la is. And i think there's probably a misconception that it's just for because of the name that it's just for people who are who are in the you c. services opposed to all of the military branches so I would love for One or all of you to talk about organization while you're in it and what it can do for people who are thinking about Whether they should join or not. How could impact them. Listen jenny the first Event i attended was many many years ago. I was pregnant with my first child. And i attended an event One of the joint women's leadership symposiums the sla put on and generally. I've been pretty resistant to anything that called out women marines. I was just like hey. We're marines I don't want to like single myself out by going to something special for women where we sit around and you know talk about pms and you know guy bashing or something. That's that was my vision of what anything with a group of women would be like. But i went to this. I'm sure somebody must have prompted me to go. Because i can't imagine i would've volunteered. And i was so amazingly impressed. At how empowering it was and it it was not just a bunch of women sitting around complaining. Well as me and talking about the latest fashions and The uniforms don't fit nice. It was really empowering. It helped me understand how i could be a better leader. How i could be a better marine. I was inspired. It just moved me so deeply that it was at that event that they were looking for marine corps rep on the board. I'm like sign me up. And i'll be on the board i just i was. I was in lock stock and barrel i was. I was just super motivated in that time. I've been now here with the organization quite a while and We have talked about the fact that you know women have all services can can and should benefit you know. We have a wonderful event. The joint women's leadership symposium. That's really our our hallmark event. Where the army and air force and y- international Participation it's it's wonderful and so we did talk about that recently that we need to make sure we're including more than just the sea services is really this is this is all services Originally sla was Officers women officers professional association. I believe it was well but that was before my time and you know one point they say okay we change our names we can pin include enlisted. And so now we're at the point where yeah not only. Are we officer. Enlisted for the services. But we're for everyone and highly encourage involvement Just for that. Mentorship and that encouragement. That's what i have found so so bible we know gene to that point With you know. I'm not exactly one hundred percent sure right now. On the percentage of women this is lonnie by the way In the the services the coast guard has bounced between seventeen and just shy of twenty percent for years while i served and the symposium is a great hallmark event because it's one thing to touch people via social media or via the phone but when you can see and sit down and look in the eyes of an individual and have a conversation with them the j. Wls the women's leadership symposium offers an opportunity for young woman who wouldn't necessarily see a senior enlisted or a senior officer that to not only see them but get an opportunity to talk to them and it's amazing. How many young ladies after you have that initial contact with them. Reach back to you in want that career advice. How do i get into leadership. What will make me successful in j. Wls is is a door for them so when they get to come to it and you know just the fact that this group of leaders under japanese leadership and koreans leadership with Csl a we've been able to take what we do from j. wls and expand that to the social media around and allow a more robust way for people to connect with senior enlisted senior officer personnel male or female I've i've had males post the j. Wls come up and talk about how they can be a better leader. Not just a better leader for women but a better leader all around. And that's what going back to jenny talked about in her. Intro makes you just kind of puff your chest out and say this is. This is an awesome organization to be a part of this. Is karen a piggy back. A little bit off of lonnie because my invitation into sla actually began as a very junior member of the coast guard. I was nominated to When i was a brand new e five still very early in my career and you know being being young and coming from you know crazy background and and really trying to learn who i wanted to be in the world It was a great opportunity to see the kind of women that i wanted to be like. And i've often told people you know when i speak about. Sla and the impact of it that it's probably what kept me in the coast guard in the very beginning Because i had never been exposed to that. Many talented capable intelligence women And the opportunity to connect with women across the services It is just an incredible experience. So i really. I think it's important to emphasize that you know. As we continue to grow as an organization and and and figure out the future of it it is inclusive and we and we want to ensure that the messaging does get out there that you know we are open to learn and we are open to you know serve the populations that desire to be served and we are all growing as leaders in the organization as well as on our own paths. So it's it just an incredible opportunity to connect with people that you'll never have the opportunity to connect with anywhere else. Well it also honors that concept piano brunette brown with her research talking about and and her Curriculum she talks about dare to lead and how everybody has the opportunity leader that it's a choice is not a title and when i hear you speak. It's sort of lake removing the power dynamic from What we think of the military is being very hierarchical but yet you can all come together and share wisdom and share insights and inspire one another and not have that be the dynamic counter intuitive for what we think about for the for the military and yet your allowing people to one of the fire and be and be connected in those moments and it's not about title it's about A common vision for themselves right. So i i find that very interesting. This is laura So something that. I really love about as la is that we bring women and Like jenny said men into our organization from a variety of backgrounds and experiences career. So i feel like no matter what stage of your career in or your personal life. You're going to find someone to connect with. And i think it's so important especially when we think about developing leaders when we have these very junior women in our organization and they're able to see who have put themselves through those challenges that there may be facing now and they've succeeded in a nave overcome things and they've done things like have a family or you know how to life outside of the military where they've had that work life balance and they can show that it can be done. I think it's so important to me. As i was very junior to be able to see women who have kids and end up being very successful. I think when you don't have that visual representation that connection you cannot see yourself. achieve that that could be an impetus maybe ticket out of the service So if we're not retaining those really talented women that's really A detriment to the military. It's a detriment to all of the services if we're not able to retain talented women so i think having that example to see is just so important onto i'll jump in. I feel like one of the issues that i always had was feeling Inferior i had to fight my way. And i think a lot of it may have been self-imposed but i always felt like i had to prove myself above and beyond other people I know that there are some some real challenges out there Historically and probably still for many people. But i feel like a lot of it was me holding myself back And having this preconceived notion that i needed to be like one of the guys and in the beginning doing things in an attempt to be like one of the guys that was actually detrimental Before i had children i started working on a phd Once i had my daughter. I realized i wasn't going to give up any time for that but I had written a lot of research and written a paper on Female leadership in male dominated organizations. And what i was finding was that it was so much more important that we were genuine. And that when we tried to be something that we weren't if i tried to lead in that alpha male type of manner that seemed successful for other people that seemed appropriate for the marine corps. That i came across as not being genuine and thus i was less cho- less trustworthy and people would be less inclined to follow me and so i was hurting myself and as i began to really research that and read case studies thought. Okay i i can see that making sense and so then i would begin to reflect on. Maybe some of the women who i had seen that were more successful like okay. Yeah they're not necessarily trying to do what they're doing Like a guy would do it. And so i think that's when i started having a turning point in my career i started saying yes you know i can. I can wear pink clothes. I can let people open door for me. i can be feminine. I can embrace being a mother. I can embrace the fact that i bring a collaborative style to the workforce that maybe isn't as normal When i began to do that. I think that's when really began the turnaround for me and i felt more successful and i did feel like i was doing better personally and i was being more impactful for those around me but that was me limiting myself. You know i think it was sheryl sandberg and her book it talks about you know that seat at the table i would sit in the back row and it took it took people helping to prod me sometimes to say no you go sit at the front table maybe to remind me that. Hey simply based off my rank or my position. I didn't have to take a backseat. And so having those people along the way friends Leagues even junior marines. Who would say man. What are you doing the up there literally when we're talking about sitting at the table That that was invaluable. But most of that. Like i said we self-imposed and so insightful. To and you know such self awareness to know that that's the process that you're going through to take those steps forward takes a lot of self-reflection to be able to recognize that in yourself. It it takes a lot of good mentors and people along the way and And reading good books and and doing a lot of study is it's great to have the self awareness And i think obviously you recognize that the three ladies on this phone four ladies on this phone have accomplished a great deal in got into the upper echelons leadership There's a lot that goes behind that But there's a lot of chatter that happens on the outside. It's not just about whether somebody pushes you to the table. It's that one person who says because we all have softy goes even though we want to think that we don't we do and so one one person questions and openly questions Your ability to do the job. There's a lot of self reflection that goes into that. And you know. I won't umbrella i'm just gonna use it as as as my example when i got selected to be a command master chief somebody said i only got selected because i was a female because we wanted to improve our numbers. We had one out of the twenty some odd that we have that were female and so by including me we in criticized by one hundred percent. Well the reality is you're you're going to sit there and you're going to say that and you're going to say out loud to people therefore you've just you know somehow handicapped me making. Somebody think that. I'm unable to do the job because i happen to be a woman that i only got it because i was a woman. That's hurtful when you're you're working so hard and you're doing what you think you need to do to be competitive for the next level. Male female doesn't matter. You're just doing what you need to do to get the qualifications and the experience that get to the next level and then somebody throws that out that somehow this to grenade in the room that disqualifies you from having the position. It's it's hurtful to to have to deal with that. And those are those are real things that you know went through. My head is like oh my gosh. Some young kid. Not going to believe that. I can help them. That comes to me with an honest to goodness issue that needs to be resolved. The united states coast guard. And i can't help them because they won't come to me because i happened to be a female. So those are the the challenges and my three watchwords. When i was commanded or deputy mass. She pet after the coast guard was strength. Courage confidence which is a saying from Eleanor roosevelt because i had the strength to move beyond the confidence to move beyond and the courage to move beyond and show that i could do it. But when a young person stands up in front of you an e five and this was only a few years ago and says to you how come it is that i have to disprove myself when i come to our approved myself to a unit win. The male doesn't have to do anything. And i looked at her and i said you don't have anything to prove to yourself. But what you your mom your dad and god thank and i'm not a religious person. But she doesn't have to worry about what the mail in the room thinks capabilities to the job. The united states coast guard hired her trainer and center out to the fleet. She's good enough and that's what she needs to believe. She doesn't need anybody else to take that down. But somehow there's through. You know the the studies that i've done over the number of years to there's a there's a psyche difference that needs to be overcome and it's just giving that confidence that you can do it that that person who stands behind you like jenny talked about people telling her to go to the table. Sometimes you need that person to remind you that you need to go to the table. You know and where there's a different influence with some individuals that i think that they're spot is at the table. I'm sorry but you're just an oh five. No disrespect jenny. Go sit over there. I'm the commitment she. I'm supposed to be sitting next to the admiral and i'm going to female or male. That's where i'm at. And if i happen to be the only woman at the table roger that i'm going to do my job and it's not because of a male or female. It's because i'm a leader in this organization in sorry. That was kind of my tirade. Josh i appreciate i appreciate you. Give me the time. this is all about each of you. So you're welcome very very dear friend of mine. Somebody i've known thirty years put on there is something about. Oh it's about time. We get a supreme court justice. Who's who's smoking hot plus like. Oh my gosh this woman whether you agree with her being appointed or not has accomplishments has a career. Has you know been trained gone to law. School done what she's supposed to do and the very first thing out of a male's mouth. Is she smoking hot. Like you're going to comment on her. Looks i was like. Are you kidding me. I don't politics aside like why. Are we doing that to women who have been successful and reached the pinnacle of their career. And the only thing you can say as she smoking hot so you know. Those are the kinds of things that are subtle messages. That say you have to be a little bit better than everyone else. And i agree with you. You don't have to be. You are trained. You are capable. You are good enough to be at that table. Just like everybody else's you don't have to kind of wait until you're better than everybody else. It's just oh. I totally agree with you on. Thank you for bringing that comment you can see. I'm just as passionate as you are about that one. Thanks i'd love to know what do you believe the. Sla is doing as far as challenging a not. Okay status quo. This is karen. I'll i'll go first I think how sla is challenging. That is the fact that we so passionately recognize success And what. I mean by that. Is you know we take pride. you know. Not only recognizing firsts which you know in this day and age is hard to believe that. We're still accomplishing firsts. For women But the reality is that we are. And i've often seen conversation about you. Know why. why does this matter as long as you know the person can do the job. Why do we need to recognize it and in being able to see women accomplish what they accomplish. It makes it okay and it makes it normal for other women to do it. And i think by being an organization that is so heavily focused on women's development at every phase of their career from the very beginning to their transition out of the military. Whatever that might be. I think he's And there are many organizations out there that do a lot of really great things. But i think that's what makes us different is is. We're here to help women. At whatever phase of the game they are in and to give them tactical resources to go out and accomplish. Whatever it is that they wanna do you know. May it be a twenty year career. Or maybe they do there for years and they go on to bigger better things so i think that is that is part of what makes us unique and how we are challenging kind of that status quo so i was being polite and waiting virginia chairman now as far as the sla and and You know it's it's about building leaders and you know when you ask about challenging what's going on and powerful impacting the individuals for what they bring to the table. We do we provide the mentorship the one on one the group setting. We want to give the kit the tools and the toolkit to be a successful leader You know at the end of the day. It's about being the best that you can be in recognizing the best in your people and what they can be. And i think that's what. Sla is to sum it up. We we give that we do that. We try to instill that. So i think my answer was gonna be. Maybe a little bit more humorous. But i think it's a valuable point And that is every year when we host our our leadership. Symposium men are definitely the minority Men are encouraged to come and the men who have come regularly say that it was extremely valuable Only for just their own leadership skills because so much of it is about leadership not necessarily you know just just how a woman leads But did it opens their eyes and so we almost at. I think we embrace the fact that the men are in an uncomfortable position for once we embrace the fact that an and the guys do to you know we'll we'll applaud something we'll applaud are few guys and have them stand up in the in the in the crowd to see they are now the minority and and they are they get something out of that experience and they take that back to their units of beginning to understand okay. I've heard all these women. The things they talk about the challenges they've had and i have felt what it feels like to be a minority and yet to still be included and embraced in this group. So i feel like that's kind of a kind of a funny way That we get to it. But i think it's very meaningful For for the men to experience that and then go back to their units. When i was growing up. I'm i'm fifty eight years old. And so when i was growing up the military was mostly men and they had An are about them that you know They they were brave and they were strong. And and that homosexuality was a secret to be capped. Because wasn't allowed in the military they had very Strict rules about that. And what would happen. I think i don't know this for sure. But i think the the rules have relaxed over the course of my lifetime. But now we're faced with You know there are In the spirit of inclusiveness and diversity were no longer ladies and gentlemen. We're ladies and gentlemen and then everything else that kind of is You know how people view their gender and and i've always looked at the military is an opportunity for people who don't really know themselves to have a really safe place to discover themselves. I've seen so many people who were a little bit wayward in confused as teenagers joined the military and come out these like confident. Incredible people and i've i've looked at that as a huge plus of people going into the military. We have this disenfranchised group of people who are confused and maybe not a lot of confidence and Really battling a a being marginalized in society. Would you say that the military is coming along as fast as everybody else in terms of being more accepting of people who are transgender or who are not really sure how they identify themselves or is that still a little bit too dicey for the military. I'm not really sure. I don't know the answer to that so i was just kind of interested because i could see someone being confused. An having having a hard upbringing that the military's a great opportunity for them to discover themselves. Would that be a safe place for them to do that janina fight if i could. I happen to be the gay person on the phone right. And so i spent thirty one years on active duty in a good number of that. I had to protect who i was on the outside to serve on the inside or i could face getting kicked out and i went through the very tough decisions that the services faced a couple years ago with allowing transgenders to serve openly. And you know it's it's it's a hard nut but what i'll boil it down to is they're getting to a point where you realize that. Every citizen of the united states that wants to serve should have the opportunity to serve because we have one percent of our population that shows an interest in serving an even lesser number of those that actually sign up to serve and when every service faces an issue with You know recruiting and retention at some point you have to figure out how to crack the hard nut and is the hard nut. Our beliefs is the hard nut. The the deployment issue is the hard nut. The head the issue with the bathrooms and birding we. We have to figure those things out because at the end of the day. It's about allowing opportunity for those that are interested in doing it. You know in healthcare. Now we are seeing patients who are having gender reassignment surgery and the reality is they come in and me from the nursing and of it realized that their struggles to for inclusiveness and belonging right. And so you know. I i think that The military is always the last frost year conquer. It's you know it was it. Was that with homosexuality in the beginning then it was that with women. And you've been able to conquer that it. I mean both of those Groups who were previously marginalized from the from the military have been able to move forward. And i do think that you'll get there. It's just that it takes a mod of rethinking how we leave you physical fitness and how view advancement in evaluation and turns everything upside down. And i don't think that that's any different from any other Kind of specialty. That trying to figure that out. You know it's it's that how do you put your mind around it but i just wanted to ask the question because we're marking this point in time and i know ten years from now fifteen years from now all that stuff will have been figured out because we're going toward a society that's more inclusive that embraces diversity and i think the military has done a great job of moving that forward based on the history of the military and how entrenched they were in some of their beliefs around who could serve. I think they've done an amazing job. You all have been an amazing example. Should have changed right. And so i'm looking forward to the next decade or two decades where we're we're seeing people continue to evolve and i applaud the military for having come. This far is that is not We have made the same advancements in nursing. If you think about it you know where a female dominated profession. We remain. that way. And we haven't made the advancements of being more inclusive of men. So i think you guys have done a fantastic job and i just wanted to raise the question. I just was curious because i feel like that ceiling breaking to write. It was a marine several years ago sitting on a panel at the national naval officers association when they were talking about fitness. And the guy said if you happen to be a couple of biscuits over in your wait. As long as you can run with that fifty pound rucksack. What do i care if you're overweight. But we still seem to be hyper focused on. Somebody's weight versus what they can do from a perspective so it's not necessarily a discriminator with performance. Because if you happen to be a few pounds overweight over body fat you're somehow lesser of a person. Even though you could probably out bench out run out push up the guy sitting next to you who happens to be you know. He's got that body. Morphology that just allows them to be skinny as a stick for these things that i think as our society evolves into more inclusiveness at it will challenge you know the military standards just like it does every other industry but i think the the The physical challenges of what the military requires is as Probably going to be the criteria more than how people identify themselves at some point right. It's going to be about the performance and so it's interesting to watch the evolution. And i have to say that i'm really proud of of the advances in the military is made an inclusiveness. And so it's not a judgement on my part at all because i think everyone's along a continuum of where they can kind of figure out this new way of being in thinking and that kind of stuff so It's it the question was really out of curiosity of how do we See the military as advancing along with society right and I think the military does a remarkable job for people who are need to find their way and this is a group or popular action of people who other people have not allowed them to belong and so and blogging needs are very important and you get a lot of that in the military. You belong to a team when you're in the military at what i'm struck by. Every time i talked to someone who has served is that the camaraderie and that loving and belonging that they walk away with this so powerful and changing people's lives no matter how detrimental their childhood has been they find community there and that's a population that needs the military or needs. What the military offers. I guess is so that's why my my question came up. What would the future of the military look like. If fifty percent of all leadership roles were filled by women this is jenny. I i think it would have a lot more collaboration. I still think that sometimes we can try and be a little too authoritarian in how we do things in the military You're going to do this. Because i said you're gonna do this and i. I came up with this idea and so it must be the best idea. Go forth and do my idea and if it fails tell me why you failed to implement my idea well enough for it to succeed Whereas i think women in general. And i know. This is stereotypical comment. But we bring a group together to come up with the best idea to accomplish that. I think we really embrace the diversity and understand that. I might not have all the solutions. I might not understand all the aspects of the problem and so we we are much more willing to bring a team together and then at the end of the day we are much more willing to give credit to the team. And i think that's one of the things that i discovered also when we do our for our performance evaluations and i submit to to my boss you know. Here's the accomplishments that i had. We oftentimes don't take you know it wasn't jenny that made this happen. I led a team. That made this happen or i was a part of a team that made this happen So i think if more women were in leadership positions we would be more collaborative and we would give credit as a team. More instead of maybe selfishly. Taking credit for accomplishments agreed one hundred million percent flows with the most hopeful about the future of women in leadership. And do you have any final comments about fat. So this is jenny. And i'm biting my tongue. Because i feel like i've talked a whole lot and this might be a great answer for the peo more. Do you want to take a stab. No you haven't talked too much. I would say that what excites me is the feeling amongst our women who are serving That there are no barriers that they have to overcome anymore and the only challenge that they face is their own i guess willingness to serve willingness to to serving that's the only barrier is that and they don't face any other challenges simply because they are women. I think that we're just about there. And i'm excited for when that is a reality i would say what i'm most hopeful about. As as i transitioned out was seeing the young women that come in especially the ones of course. I'm very biased by being the treasurer for sla but the ones that take advantage of what we have to offer the senior leadership. The just for context. Josh and janine. I don't know if you know this but Our joint women's leadership symposium garner's over a thousand women coming to this symposium every year and and it's not just navy coast guard and marine corps as was mentioned in it's air force it's army. It's a the netherlands. It's jap japan. I mean it's we've got women from all over which speaks volumes to the dedication that these young women have to know building their leadership skills making those mentorship contacts. And so when i see this from an older person the fact that these young women want to succeed in the organization they want to go on to the upper echelons and they want to do good not only for themselves their families and their friends but for their country it it warms my heart it warms my heart that what i did for thirty years made a difference because those young ladies have the opportunities in the only continue to increase as women have the opportunity in the season if they seize those opportunities and they don't accept no as an answer you know you got a fifty fifty shot asked the question if it's no ask again that they're willing to move up and take those harder roles because i'll tell you what and this might be biased. The hardest role that i have found that i have had to accomplish was being a mom if i can be a mom. I can beat a leader in the united states. Coast guard so. I am encouraged by these young ladies. And how they are balancing what they want to accomplish as a total and they see. Sla as an opportunity to help them with that. I am encouraged very encouraged. I think one of the things that i'm very hopeful about is the future women coming in any young women coming in kind of looking at us. Old folks saying that such an old fashioned problem. I can't. I can't even imagine ever having to deal with that. That's where i want this to get to be one day right So the challenges that many of us who we've all been in you know fourteen plus years. Yeah a- each one of us on a different journey. We've endures and things that you know we would say well no woman. No person should have to endure. What i hope is that this young generation looks at us. Like we're crazy hike man that it does not my life. I don't have to deal with that. We are in a different time and a better time. And that's what i look forward to. And i and i look forward to less i for women that it's not so novel that we are much more just a part of the landscape instead of. Oh look we have another female ondeck And that's what. I look forward to and i am. I confident that we're getting there Having lonnie jenny karenin laura heather experience of not just being in the military but also being part in association where they network learn from one another as well as support other upcoming women leaders in the military was so inspiring for me belonging is such a basic human need and yet not all women in leadership have that level of support. I love what they're able to do for one. Another and the synergy alignment during their episode. Really really inspired me as well. Twenty years ago. I was a signature away from joining the marine corps. While it wasn't the right road from me. I have dear friends for him. It was and i've internalized the motivations and challenges that go with the career through countless conversations with these friends. I have a deep respect for the sacrifices that need to be made in order to serve to make the sacrifices to navigate the normal challenges and then to do so as a woman is incredibly inspiring. These women have done it and are doing it. And their collective work in the sla is making the military more and more place for collaboration connection and success toward accomplishing the mission. Taking her leads episodes. Drop every second tuesday. If you like what you hear please subscribe rate and review of the show on. I tunes your support in this way helps us. Continue to make a difference. If you're interested in the work that we do please share the podcast with your network. Your support of the show texas closer to our goal of creating a wide reaching platform for women in leadership to show other unique stories. 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Bill Barr's Announcement
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But the fact that for the first time in two years, we have an attorney general who's not recused from perhaps a major investigation of these last few years. Yeah, I think this is so important because we've focused on the Muller report. And. Now, we are focusing on thankfully, Bill bars focusing on how in light of the fact that Muller did not find collusion. We ended up with our top law enforcement ever getting to a place where they suspected it. But I think an important part of the story that's been missed is how long it has taken us to get an attorney general who could ask that question, and it it wasn't an accident. Okay. We we had Jim Komi the former FBI director who, you know, we now know purposely hid this probe from all the other adults in Washington. He didn't tell congress about it. He wasn't straight with the FIS a court about the derivation of the dossier. He didn't give a defensive briefing to the Trump campaign. And I think you can assume that this was in part because the FBI believed Hillary Clinton would win, and nobody would know. So there would be no accountability. And then when Trump did win we saw both the purposeful. Leaking of all of this information to? Give the FBI some cover and ultimately to cause a special counsel to be appointed which put on ice a lot of the questions getting asked and also an attempt while less accessible attempt to push attorney general, then attorney general Jeff Sessions out of the way. So that he couldn't do an internal review. And so we've had nobody there to look at this. And it's a really good news. We finally do. Can you know that mister bars predecessor Jeff Sessions warned the conditions from staying in the job was to recuse himself. Do you think looking back on it? Now, knowing what we know now that was the goal rather than defeating his candidacy outright because it's been a incredible run for the FBI injustice, kind of not have any accountability. Because of this crippled attorney general and if just sessions at step down immediately instead of recusing himself. They might have got someone, you know, a strongest Bill bar in there. Yeah. And I do think that that's a pity. Look. It was always ridiculous that Jeff Sessions should have to step down. Right. I mean, this guy was a respected member of the Senate. I think he had been attorney general in his own state before he came to the Senate, a longstanding lawyer and respect a person the notion that because he was at an event or to where there was also a Russian president present was grounds that he should have to recuse himself from all things Russian was crazy, which is why I think we have to assume that at least some of the people who were pushing for on the democratic side they did. So they probably knew about the dossier. And maybe what the FBI had been up to Republicans wouldn't find out about that for a long time. And so, you know, Jeff Sessions, perhaps he didn't die only thing. I think I could say in his favor as I at least in the beginning. I think when he was making that decision to recused. He was not aware of the. Extent to which the FBI had a. Actually, advises way by just as lawyers. I believe right. Yeah. Exactly. So he didn't really know. And it was only after he recused that, we got a sense of just how deep this problem was and how much it required some attention from within the department of Justice. And by that point it was impossible. And so now, you have Bill Barr when you first came when I mean this time in his previous iteration as attorney general I mean, he got the almost unanimous support of the Senate going in. He was a figure almost like Bob Muller in the sense of being universally praised for his integrity and his honesty and so forth. That tour has changed now. Right. I mean is he changed her the circumstances chain? Well, Democrats are now out to get him. Look, he's a represents a huge threat to all of those have continued to collusion narrative over the past couple of years. And that includes not just the people that were in government at the time. The folks like Jim Komi or potentially former Danae James Clapper or former CIA director John Brennan. But also, you know, the media Democrats who made known about the Clinton dirty trick operation all sorts of folks. So they have an institutional interest. Now, a collective interest and disparaging him and undermining him and suggesting he has no integrity there. Already calls for him to resign. Which is crazy. One of the things that he has to do is restore the credibility of these two institutions Justice in the FBI and one of the one of the most contested issues. Is this Russia counterintelligence investigation launched in two thousand sixteen? The FBI officials story was that it was launched July thirty four and it was triggered by information. They got that Alexander Downer. Australia's embassador the UK had met with George popadopoulos who said that he knew the Russians had some damaging material on Hillary. According to even Mr Downer. He didn't say emails he didn't even say dirty just damaging material and that was enough to launch investigation. I mean, I think they would say they had other things, but it's extrordinary to me that the people that feel that was enough. And now, we know there was no there there because we had the special counsel's investigation that that was enough to begin extrordinary secret investigation into a presidential candidate. And yet the same people are howling. Now that Mr Martinez will. Maybe we should look and make sure that that was predicated adequately. In other words that they had the right to do that. It wasn't a mistake. Worse than. Go ahead. It's worse than a mistake. So the same people. I mean, if you read the FBI councils James baker's testimony where he saying that the FBI agents or the top officials that he was meeting with after Mr. Comey got fired. They're all sitting around speculating g he did this because Putin wanted him to. I mean, I think that's the basis of the flimsiest. Actually, I don't think there is evidence for and they launch investigation and yet again, the same people now take great umbrage that they may have explain those actions. Well, the the F B I's story that this was launched on the basis of the popadopoulos tip was always to my mind. The flimsiest read of a story, right? It don't strain credulity that you would mobilize the entire FBI in an unprecedented counterintelligence investigation into a sitting presidential campaign on the basis of the idea that I third tier campaign aide that nobody had ever heard of head months. Earlier uttered a sentence about Hillary Clinton's Email server at a time when everyone was talking about Hillary Clinton's emails, so I think a lot of us have always assumed that there's a lot more. They're there. And that is what bars looking into we're going to find out finally whether or not this FBI origin story is true. But yeah, you're right. Look, it was devastating. When when Bob Muller came out and said there was. No collusion. Couldn't bring anything there. Then obviously the question has to be. All right. How did all of that happened? Then how did our law enforcement get to this place because it is a big deal? And that was my favorite part of his Moni Bill this week. He just said, yeah, it's a big deal when the FBI is monitoring a presidential campaign. Right. Okay. We're going to have to take a short break there. You're listening to Potomac watch from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Bill mcgurn filling in for Paul Jayco. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Potomac watch. Hello. I'm Bill mcgurn filling in for Paul Jagoda today with me as Kim strassel. And you're listening to the Wall Street Journal's Potomac watch Kim just to wrap up the bar the Bob Barr thing the significance of what he said about. The investigation is is is twofold. Right. It's on the one hand. Do we know we don't even know for sure when it really happened. Right. You you've cast out on the July thirty first launch to the investigation because there were other little activities going on before that the question I have to you is this because what they're afraid that Mr. bar will find out is that a group of opposition researchers commission, the sleazy document from from trumpeting, former British intelligence officer. And then the memory members of the, you know, Hillary campaign or affiliates of the Hillary campaign, then push that to get an investigation on their Rockville. I mean that would be an outrageous thing to have happened and the question the number one question, and I think what Mr. bar is looking at is when exactly did the FBI and fusion GPS, which is that operate research for when did they tie up? Okay. Because there's been any normal amount of effort on the behalf of anonymous sources at the FBI, and at within fusion to suggest that none of this happened with their dossier. It didn't even get into FBI hands until well after the investigation was launched. There's still a New York Times story online that makes the claim that it didn't make its way to the F B I until the middle of September. Right. But we now have testimony that was given to congress under oath from people like, Bruce or at the Justice department attorneys. Saying well, actually, he met up with Christopher Steele on July thirtieth the day before the investigation launched and he obtained a copy of the dossier there, and he turned it over to FBI senior people. We also know that there are contacts early in the spring already between one of these human informants, the FBI used step and helper and guys like Carter page happened. Well before the election, I mean well before the beginning of the investigation. So a lot of really big unanswered questions. And we we still have a lot to learn. Well, let's hope that mister bar can get through it. He's gonna Lana Jones played. He's got three inspector general reports coming out one on Fiso one on leaks on gifts, the DOJ FBI people were taking they shouldn't have he's got the criminal referrals coming over. From Devin Nunes, he's got Mr. Huber US attorney looking into the charges against Andrew McCabe. He's got a lot to pull off in not a lot of time to. Yes. Yes. He does. And look I think he is a little bit of breathing room though. Only in this regard that he said during his congressional testimony that he now expects the inspector general to finish his report probably at the end of may or in June. And I would find it unlikely that Mr. bar would move with any of his own conclusions until he had seen what the inspector general had to to give him. So he does have a couple of months to start doing his own search. Okay, let's which two the other big news. And this was the arrest of Wiki leaks, founder Julian Assange after Ecuador revoked the asylum. It had given him in its London embassy. So people have kind of forgotten about this story. But he's he's a curious person. So Wiki leaks basically published classified information that came to them, right? And they published a. Big chunk of information that then Bradley Manning now Chelsea Manning who is a US army analyst had stolen has stolen foiling. They put it up there. So then Mr Assange was in in Europe and in Britain, and then there was a a rape allegation from Sweden. And he jumped bail in Britain to take refuge in this embassy. So he's he's got a couple of charges. He's now he's now detained by British authorities. But he's got to answer to the jail jumping chart which could be year in prison. And there's talk that the woman who initially brought the rape charges in Sweden wants prosecutors to reopen that account it was closed mostly on the grounds that they couldn't reach him. Because he was stuck inside the embassy. What is Julian Assange is significance this arrest? I mean, it was quite a spectacle. He apparently didn't go willingly. Well, it matters a great deal. And here's why for starters. You know, look this information that he published was immensely damaging to US national security. I wasn't a lot of it war related right described as Iraq, Afghanistan, right? That put people who were actively aiding and helping. United States and potential harms way by exposing their names and interactions that they'd had with us. It was it was a very bad thing. Now, some people have made the case that you know, WikiLeaks is its own form of journalism. But, but even if you accept that, by the way, I still would make the distinction between newspapers that seek to inform the public and sometimes with things that are secrets, but also outlets that simply throw things out there to undermine country, which is what Assange did. But even if you accept the he's journalists what's notable about these charges is that they're not focused on his journalism. It's not focused on the espionage act or going after the press. The specific charge is being made against him as he provided aid to Chelsea Manning in terms of how to crack pass and and hack into government databases. That's quite significant because it turned out after he was arrested that this indictment had been filed under under seal a last year, people didn't know what was in it. But it leaked down into virtually that there was something against him. So it's a single count. And the count is not about publishing. This information account count is about his work to infiltrate a computer by trying to work on this password. I think they had half the password, and they were trying to get the other half and the advantage using that password is that given them access to material that Chelsea Manning did not have at the time as a result of her job, and it would make it harder to detect to trace it back to her because you would be going in. It was like if I went in on computers with your Email and credentials. It'd be a lot harder to trace it back to me unless someone saw me there at the time and could place me. So that's interesting because it it also. Voids a whole problem that they might otherwise have with the press of people saying if you're going to punish someone just for publishing things. We're all vulnerable. He might Mr. Sante might have had more support in that case if they done it. But it looks like a very careful and deliberate decision to go the route of sticking into trying to break into the computer and get private the information out. Yeah. And it's interesting how hard Mr Assange and his lawyers are working to drag it back into the press discussion. Right. The first amendment field and that they are claiming well, indeed, Mr Assange is help was necessary to protect his sources identity. But I think that could be a very hard lift to make import especially given the way that they have framed these charges because you know, I it's a quivalent like like going and aiding a source to break into a. A government facility is not respectable journalism. Right. People people like people give us documental time. I've had classified information or different government dockings. Maybe not always classified that someone had given to me. But I have never won encourage people to break in illegally to illegally access information and too much less be part of it. I mean, he didn't just encourage Chelsea Manning. He was from what I understand working on the password himself to try to crack the code. I mean, I I don't know any journalists that do that. Well, right. Could you imagine? If it came out that one of us we went to our Boston. We said, hey, I got a source willing to give me this stuff. Only I have to go and break into the Pentagon with him in order to obtain it, I mean. Paul zhigo would laugh out of the building. Probably fire us with. Most most editors in the country. Right. Oh, of course. Right. Right. And that's why I think it's important to make this distinction about what Assange did what he's being charged for. I've heard a lot of unfortunate commentary on television, etc. Lately, comparing this to the Pentagon papers comparing it in the press realm that is not what this case is about. Right. It's interesting. He's always been a hero to some on libertarian. Right. Kind in the way that Edward Snowden was a hero for for stealing information and making public. He's always there's there's been a sector. That's always applauded in that way. And then the beginning a lot of people cheered them on because they thought that the stuff he released about the war was embarrassing to the George W Bush administration and undermined US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan by embarrassing us with some of these details. And so in the beginning, it was sort of the right looking sceptically, Adam except for maybe libertarians. But now that's flipped because he's he published a lot of these Hillary Clinton emails that a lot of people suspect. We haven't proved yet came from Russia. The Russia did the hacking that got the the Hillary Clinton Email? So once it was Hillary Clinton, then a lot of the other people that might have been. Down on Wor kind of positive that includes. Unfortunately, I think the president where he you know, you sit on the campaign stop a few times. I love Wiki leaks of. So it's. It's been really muddy because depending on whose political ox is getting gored. Some people have applauded him in one case and not applauded him and the other I'm proud to the Wall Street Journal was has been against him from the start. Well, that has been the frustration every time there's a discussion of Julian Assange as is one is you said he has become a back and forth. Partisan hero for various people who as a result aren't necessarily looking at his actions. But are looking at the outcomes of it who did it barris. And and did that help them on that particular day, and you know, that that's just a frustrating thing. But the other one too is that, you know, discussions of Julian Assange tend to wait us into this incredibly weird area of transparency, and you know, I I always get frustrated with the very sloppy thinking about transparency because we as a society of been told that anytime that government is more transparent that it's a good thing. And this is certainly something Assange is traded off. Right. Is you know, I am I am revealing the secrets of government. But you know, it is sloppy thinking you go on you ass ninety percent of Americans. They would not. Agree with for instance, putting our battle plans in real time online. So that our enemies can see what's going to happen and all of our servicemen. Get killed people understand that there are limits to transparency and guys like join Assange don't care about those limits and don't care about the lives lost or wrist or other damage that come from putting these things out. I think the same you could say with the Snowden and Chelsea Manning. I mean, you don't get to decide what should be made public. I worked in government. I took that oath. I took it very seriously. And we we were very serious about classified information when I was at the White House, if you left the folder that was classified on your desk went downstairs to get a coke or go to the men's room. You could be cited for security violation. It's a very very serious thing. So for someone to just take it upon themselves to steal this and put it out there, which does what an encourages enemies. I frankly, I didn't see Julian Assange embarrassing Russia or China with leaks of their sensitive information. It always seemed to damage only one authority which was the United States in in how we operated, but now he he it may take a while. I think this extradition battles going to be interesting depends, whether the Brits think that he has to stay in jail there for the for the bail jumping or go to Sweden, but he's he's not looking at a very happy future right now. No. And it will also be interesting if he is ultimately extradited here to the United States just what else he's going to be asked. Because obviously, he's in trouble for these national security leaks that were done with be at Chelsea Manning. But remember his other more recent roles was which was producing some of these Email. Males that were hacked during the two thousand sixteen election. And I have no doubt that a law of a lot of federal law enforcement officials in a lot of senators and house members were they able to get their hands on them would have a great deal of questions about what he knows about Russia's involvement with that for instance. And some of the other key details that get to that hacking question while we're gonna they're going to want to talk to him in the Roger stone case ready to mean half of. The the case against Roger. So his that he advertised relations with Julian Assange that we're probably stronger than what he that. We're probably not as strong as what he claimed. And then he tried to back away from that. When people started looking at that. So that could play a factor in in that area, and as well as the Russian we we don't really know. I mean, we know Russia was up to stuff. We don't know what they did is. We don't know that he got the emails from Russia to have to point out. He's always denied that. He did it. But he's proved himself, obviously, the not not the most honest person there. So it's going to be it's going to be tough. And it'll be interesting to see if a lot of these people that who applauded him as a hero were still going to do it. I I still come across a few. And I have to say, I'm quite stunned. Yeah. I look I mean in a world where William bars and enemy of freedom. And Julian Assange is a hero. That's on my world. I don't live in that world. And I think most Americans don't live in that world. Well, you make an excellent point if Julian Assange, I would love to see join Assange. Aim his what is supposed to be quite large network of people who help him and work with him and get him information. Why don't you do a little bit of digging in repressive regimes where people are getting often bad guys are in charge and bring some of that to light that would be something that might actually be worthy in applaud -able? But I see very little that WikiLeaks has ever done. That is in fact applaud -able and the prosecution looks very serious. I'm assuming that before I mean this again was before Bill Barr took over as attorney general. But they've had it waiting. I soon they have some evidence of this because it's quite specific about his role trying to crack this the safe. There's no evidence by the way that they actually did get in. I think he has an Email to Chelsea Manning saying I haven't been able to do it. But they were you know, they were trying the whole time. So yeah. And we'll see what. Else? They have as well too. They obviously haven't revealed everything that they have just in this indictment. They would presumably given as you said how specific it is. There is likely a great deal more which will find about as the proceedings go, which although if they go again, it is entirely up to Britain at this point. They want to keep them or they're going to hand him over who they hand him over to I well, it it shows. I mean, we're in a brave new world where people can put on a server outside the control of government information to publish all of America secrets said he got his hands on. No in the end. He he, you know, that got him in a little fix because there were not a lot of places to go. You know, when Edward Snowden did that the only place that was really open to them was Moscow. It turns out you sort of need the nation states. Even if you're going to do this someone to give you the cover. So I think we're gonna we're gonna whatever Wiki leaks is we're going to have a lot more of those. And the question will be again, they just accepting information. There are a lot of websites so forth just print were comes along. Or are they actively trying to access that information in illegal ways? And that that's been the hunch for a long time. Well, and that's the distinction right is as you pointed out that we at this newspaper, for instance, if people come to us with something, you know, we have an obligation to look at it and see whether or not it is up some value. If somebody's been. Hiding something if this is a whistle blower. This is information that's meant to get out there. But we don't encourage them to do it. And we certainly don't encourage anyone to break the law called receiving information, and then making consider judgment of whether or not to to to publish it. That is certainly how WikiLeaks has presented itself. But we now know that is not the case. His lawyer Mr. Saunders lawyer says he was just trying to protect the source, but not really I mean, he was trying to break into a. A computer? So it's going to be a big a big problem form going down that going down that path we're likely to learn an awful bit. Because Wiki leaks is very murky. Right. I mean, we don't know a lot we're likely at some point to get a fuller picture of the story. I mean, the one thing also he mentioned with real journalists as opposed to having a few servers around. You know, if the Wall Street Journal makes decision to publish a piece of classified information that the government doesn't want us to publish. But we think it's really in the public interest, and it's exposing some wrong this their skin in the game. The journal is a an institution based here in New York. You know, it has financial assets. There's a lot that go wrong. This kind of internet thing where it's very vague. And you just put a server somewhere. There's not a lot of accountability. If you get it wrong. Yeah. Well, especially when you can go hide out in the Ecuadorian embassy for seven years. And apparently, you only get tossed out because they didn't like how you are taking care of your cat. I mean, it's it's it's it is a brave new world of and you know, for a long time. Remember people hard to even track where Assange was at times. So we'll have to leave it there. Can you? We live in a crazy Washington where for some people Julian Assange as the hero and Bill bar is the enemy seems to be to get it backwards. You've been listening to Potomac watch from the Wall Street Journal on Bill mcgurn filling in for Paul zhigo with Kim strassel.
Interfaz Podcast Episodio 137 En vivo desde Microsoft Ignite 2019 Novedades en Kubernetes y Contenedores con Jos Yapur
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Wednesday 14 October
"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the fourteenth October. Two, thousand, twenty or monocle twenty four, the briefing brought you in association with Novartis. Hello and welcome to the briefing coming to live from studio one here at majority. House, in London I'm Andrew Talk. Coming up on today's program. Boris. Johnson faces a barrage of criticism over his handling of corona virus. There's no longer time to get this prime minister the benefit of the doubt. The government's plan simply isn't working. Another course is needed. We'll ask whether Europe's leaders are being honest enough about both the extent and duration of the pandemic. Also ahead, the security expert Michael Clark will be here to analyze cybersecurity attack on Norway's parliament plus our correspondent listen to Elliott reviews the latin-american papers and then a bit later on today's. program. Hello. I'm Carlotta Bella producer of monocle twenty four is the urban est discussing some of the week's top organism stories including how Los Angeles Metro wants to help voters get to the polls on election day. All that right here on the briefing with me Andrew Talk. The UK prime, Minister Boris Johnson is coming under considerable pressure from opposition politicians and the country's scientific community to implement a second national lockdown in England. Johnson says it another stoppage which has been a circuit breaker is not inevitable. It comes as a major European nations including the Netherlands and Italy have announced new measures in a bid to curb the spread of Krona virus. Well, I'm joining the lineup by Monaco's health and science correspondent Dr Chris. Smith Chris is also a consultant. At Cambridge University. Chris I. Guess. The first thing to ask you is that we we've implemented this. The traffic light system here in England where cities under varying degrees of of lockdown, not parts of the country are that is. And here we have the opposition leader aligning himself with some of the scientific community saying as she was needed, a is a circuit breaker where we go back into a full stoppage for a period of two to three weeks. What could that achieved because many other virologists saying today this is this isn't going to help all. All you're doing is delaying the inevitable the only way to fully stop it back into a permanent lockdown and the country is willing to do that. Is there any benefit to this short termism? Will I I agree with the other Rolla GIS that you're citing are I am skeptical and the reason I'm skeptical I think it's a deficit. I haven't actually seen the case made for do this. This happens if we do this, this happens and this is how certain we are behind these numbers. Remember it's only a short while ago. That someone said, we're GONNA shop pubs at ten o'clock at night, and this is going to reduce cases. This is going to reduce transmission. Yes. It will reduce transmission in the pub but what models amass equations don't foresee is the predictable predictibility of people, which is they got. Out of the pub melee in the street mash transmission out there all back to someone else's place mentality with a whole bunch of bottles of takeout and far more transmissions in that setting. So I on the one hand if you just ask the question would lockdown translate into fewer cases answer. Yes. If you then also questions about you differently, what are the long term repercussions of this does this actually translate into a long term difference in the trajectory difference in outcome well, more people die later, just not today those are the sorts of questions we need to see set out so that we can all be. Involved in the decision making because at the moment is coming across as a bit of some some people with big brains of said this, and this is what we're gonNA do based on some other input from economists and I don't think he's transparent enough and an I think is now is critical more than ever to take the public along for the journey to because that is missing the moment morale is falling support is wavering and if we're GonNa make these things work evidence proves to us. We have to have everyone on board onside and all acting together decisively. Otherwise, we're just fiddling while Rome Burns. On agree with you because I get the perception reading the papers reading the corologis reading what sage says reading what the government says. That they're aware that something much more alarming is going on but they're scared 'til the public because they only give you this information is this. If we do this with an extra weeks if we do this for the period of Mirth, they imply the all will be okay off to them because there's going to be this vaccine that's GonNa come along or something's going to mutate with the virus. I just wanted to give you two quotes. I'd seen in recent days which really brought home to me. How Misguided we. Are. because. Think this hints that what's really going on. Kate Bingham who's the head of the UK's Vaccine Taskforce? And she said, I, want to make it clear. People are not all going to be getting a vaccine. It is not going to happen. She said, even if there is a successful vaccine, it will only be an adult vaccine for people over the age of fifty. primarily focusing on healthcare workers and care homeworkers and the very vulnerable. and. I'll just give you one of quite this is from the the The Sunday Times. On Sunday this is Debbie Cerda who's one of the Britons apparently is foremost experts on global health. Chose US very simple question. When will this be over and she said with all of the things we have with the drugs with a vaccine coming along line online with with shutdown she said. I'm looking ahead to twenty twenty four. Now why is it that nobody in sage nobody in government nobody in opposition will be honest with the public we'll be honest with any public and say. Dun. Think of this in terms of like three months, six months, nine months a year we're talking. This situation for three, four, five years because that seems to be what what's beginning to leak how from all of these government institutions I'm I'm I'm quite pleased that you brought up the reference to vaccines and the vaccine trajectory for this country because that quote and that interview, which was actually you know that report was in the Financial Times. It doesn't seem to have much traction and yeah, I think that's one of the most important messages to have emerged in recent weeks. The government have got orders on tap and a plan to vaccinate about thirty million people. Now if you look at the population of the UK, it's considerably more than thirty million people. It's about sixty million people. So that means there is still thirty eight million individuals who will not be receiving vaccine or at least not in the foreseeable future, and as is correctly been highlighted, it doesn't include under eighteens and the reason it doesn't include on routine is because the vaccine hasn't been tested on Andrei Teens. So therefore, you can't give someone a drug if you haven't tested it safely in that group of individuals so they won't be guessing the agent either. So therefore, there's going to be an enormous amount of uncertainty going forward. The only certainty is that there will be a lot of people left susceptible in the population which tells me that we have to have strategies in place that enables us to live with this virus. Circulating because that's a very large population of people who will be on vaccinated, and if you assume that ten percent of them will not be immune because that's the current rate of non-immunity in the country. That's double the population of Sweden. Many ten times the population of Sweden who in this country? Who are a I'm using is a benchmark for no other reason who are unvaccinated and non immune susceptible, and so therefore, you've still got a country scale level of outbreak waiting to happen. So what are we going to do? We're going to continuously lock the country down another. The answer is we can possibly do that. We can't afford to do that and and if you keep asking the question, how do I minimize death now and you also question how do I maximize the outcome for everybody into the future you get very different answers to those questions. Well the other interesting thing is even if there was numerous things had one, is you the the government said that? To even vaccinate that thirty five million people in a in a reasonable way that you would need to enlist the army that. Fifty serapis anybody Do this for flu but not on that scale. Very successful because GP's pharmacies hospitals go above and beyond to get the flu vaccine road out every autumn. My wife's GP they have a vaccination weekend everybody turns up to work and they chew people up through the building or they did and they would have almost like a conveyor belt of people coming in getting jabbed Gung Ho. And there is therefore the mechanism in place and there's definitely the William Place to do this kind of thing. But that's for about fifteen million people. See you talk about doing twice as much as that and actually on national that we've got that much maxine. Yeah. They've got to scale up the production. So assuming a vaccine comes along assuming it works assuming it works in the people that are going to be targeted. That means the most vulnerable the front of that queue assuming that all those things pass muster and assuming the vaccine gets ticked off as it is safe and those big. IFS? Because we're doing this in record time probably is going to be June next year then you've got to start. Getting into people and that's not gonNA happen overnight. So it's it's going to take a little while to get round everybody. So it's still a really big headache ahead. So. Your crap we need have this honest conversation with people say this is this is a permanent situation for is is, is GonNa last for years? You've got to begin to decide what level of risk your willing to live with what level of risk you're willing to other people Yes I. Think. That's right. The public has seeing this through the lens of another six months because who can blame them. You've got initially Boris Johnson Saint by the autumn we'll have a vaccine we'll be back to normal. We'll have Christmas then Christmas. Or sorry then the autumn comes and you've got Chris Witty and Patrick valance saying and this is the picture for the next six months when in reality we know the vaccine wouldn't be for another nine months. So there's another three months of uncertainty there. So people being invited to think in the short-term when actually what is happening has massive longterm implications and impacts on everybody not just go. To pay for all this, but younger people will be paying for this emeny Moi's than just economic ways because their education has been hit very hard exams already being discussed about being disrupted finished university students You know if if newspaper and see what kind of fresh weight they've been having, it's having an impact on so many levels and this is this is going to impact these people. Going forward through the rest of their life course, and we know that the best terminent of a person's health in the long term, he's actually their wealth. You can't dissect those two things. If you have more money in your pocket, you make healthier lifestyle choices. You lead a better life have more choice, and therefore you will ultimately have a better health outcome. You'll live longer putting it bluntly. I'm being told to wrap up move on but. To ask you. Because you're you're you're always a dose of Therese on these things his two other numbers have really annoyed me today they there's number being put out about the number of beds being taken up in critical care units. people saying it's a eighty percent seventy, five percents in some places maybe even ninety percent in some places. They never tell you what would be at this time of year. Anyway they don't tally. How many of those people are actually even got covered, and then on the other side, we have these other numbers are every day. Now the number of people who have got corona virus but again. How many of those are students? It has no impact on their on their health or wellbeing. It doesn't tell you how many vulnerable people catching it per day, and surely we need have better numbers because we're we're being blinded by these scare numbers, and if maybe the numbers are more interesting and needed a little bit more on picking before you just try and panic. People into action. Yeah. Where the it you is concerned that does warrants makes nation because people would be surprised to learn that most it and it's all run with very very little bit capacity and the reason is simple. It's really expensive running intensive care. You have big teams of of some of the most skilled people in the hospital, some of the most skilled doctors. And Anita tests and some of the most skilled nurses who they spend that lifetime training to that job, you can't afford to have an intensive care unit running half empty because you'd have teams in capacity of that kind of level that caught paygrade sitting on their bum, and so as a result, you run these units high-capacity high bed occupancy because that's the most efficient. And effective way to run them, and that's why the government has said. Let's put the Nightingale hospitals on standby because that means soon as we are in danger of overwhelming to you, we've got a full back in place and that's the right thing to do because that way if they do need that capacity, it's they're ready you're not trying to catch up after the fact. and. Yes you're right. These numbers do need careful explanation because if you're not carefully present them, the wrong way people will be misled and if you look at the the graph that's been painted of Corona virus cases, for example. What it shows is is a level of cases that looks like we're the same position as we were in March and April because the numbers being reported each day look really scary big in fact that bigger than we reporting march or April. But we're doing a quarter of a million tests, the dino and in March and April, we weren't. If you paint those things on the same graph, it makes a very different impression on people than than the reality. So you're quite right I mean I think it all comes down to data clarity and communication in this. Bit of honesty with the Public Chris as always incredible speech that was health and science correspondent. Chris Smith. His monocle Selena Fan with the days are the news headlines Thanks Andrew. The US president trump will hold a campaign rally into swing state of Iowa later today his Democratic rival Joe Biden holds a strong lead in polls ahead of next month's national vote. No way has blamed Russia for a cyber attack on the Norwegian parliament's system also called it a serious incident affecting the country's most important democratic institution. Lebanon. Israel have been holding unprecedented talks on their disputed maritime border. The negotiations are a bit to resolve their longstanding disagreement over potentially gas-rich Mediterranean waters. And today's monocle minutes explorers the mid century modern architecture on display at palm springs you can find out more about this autumn's annual modernism week by heading to Monaco dot com slash minute does our headlines back to you entry. While thank. Thank you. You Lean as we were just hearing in the headlines. Oslo has accused the Kremlin spies of launching a cyberattack on Norway's parliament in August both state level espionage and sabotage not on common. But these types of tax happening at an increasingly alarming rate I'm joined now for more on this by Michael Clark, the former head of the Royal United Services Institute. Michael, can you tell us first of all why this attack was undertaken? What what would they have been after? Is it just to disrupt the Norwegian parliament or is it because of a shared interest in the Arctic or a desire to see what's going on defense terms? Do you think? The chances are it was a a fishing expedition to see what was there so if you can penetrate parliamentary procedures, you can get hold of copies of reports and it may well have had something to do with. A Norwegian activities in the article respiration to the optic. But also it's a way of cross-checking contact. So to find out more about members of parliament and their staffs and crosscheck against the names that you've got to make sure the dean with the same person and to gain information about who they are and what they've vulnerabilities may be. So this sort of a general attack on a on a parliament is usually a fishing expedition just to see what what you can gain maybe useful. And Tommy we hinted that they seem to be happening a greater frequency is this just because? The ability to do it is becoming easier that the technology is advancing for people who are trying to. Mount cyber-attacks or is Russia in a position where it feels more under threat or if feels it needs to be taking more action in this way. Well all. Intelligences now more cyber sensitive than it ever was before Alex younger who stepped down as chief of mix just a few months ago he said very famously now he said that by twenty twenty one, which is pretty close now but twenty, twenty, one, they'll be two sought to intelligence organizations in this world those that understand had the digital era works and those that don't, and to be very clear which dating with undoubtedly the Russians have always been pretty good on the cyber side intelligence. So they've maintained their capabilities. They are very good at targeting things that they want. Where's the Chinese are of felt good on the cyber side, but they just move everything got been in a almost an an industrial. Capacity they just get hold of everything that the Russians are more targeted. So when they go for target like the. Oslo Parliament Norwegian parliament all the Office for the prevention of chemical weapons or the Olympic drug testing laboratories all of which they've gone for very specifically that quite good at doing it and have to say it Western intelligence the America America's NSA the National Intelligence Agency, I'm Britain's G H Q a quite good at spotting them, doing it in calling them out when they do and indeed being America in the United Kingdom as will give the European allies quite a lot of information about where to look if they think that there is Russian penetration so we help out Organizations like wages or the Dutch the Germans to say have a good look at this because we think the Russians are playing about initial that particular cyber system of your critical national infrastructure. The Russian. Embassy in Oslo said, how dare you suggest do such a thing and points out that they feel that they are under more attack than anybody else that they endlessly have foreign nationals trying to tap into their systems do you think that we do get a little bit carried away seeing rushing attacks when actually on the the other side is probably just as much going on. Everyone. Does it and it's just a a new version of the the old spying game. Remember intelligence is known as the second oldest profession in the world. So it goes on all the time and now it goes on in Cyber. Domains the thing is that intelligence agencies have always had a sort of a co, an an unspoken unwritten code of rules and ethics. Otherwise, normal relations become very difficult. So by and large intelligence agencies understand what are fair targets and what not fair targets, and if you need to defend your own fair targets and you've got the right to try to attack somebody else's defended targets but where it strays into other areas regarded as somehow breaking the unwritten. Rules. Who Intelligence and the Russians have done a lot of that and they always say that they are being victimized. But on the other hand they they deserve quite a lot of the criticism that they got and there's a lot of criticism of the Russians which is held back because governments don't want to seem to be blaming the rushing everything but there's a great deal of evidence that they do go out into the world and they cyberattack. Ferry mercilessly most countries, electoral systems and Critical point of national infrastructure to to see what they can gain. Well Michael Thank you for explaining everything to us. That was the former head of Roussy Michael. Clark. You're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty four. Be Right back after this. Is Proud to partner the briefing on monocle twenty four. Navarre's is is a company that is committed to reimagining medicine. Global Healthcare leader intent on changing the practice of Medicine Novartis has been exploring uncharted territory in science for more than a century today, the company is working on breakthrough treatments that pushed the boundaries of human understanding and biology data science and engineering to develop and deliver therapies that help people live longer and healthier lives around the World Novartis reimagining. Medicine. Your back with the briefing or Monaco Twenty Four I'm Andrew Talk we're going to get around up now of the stories in the Latin American press I'm joined to do that by correspondent in the region. Cinder. Elliott's listened a great to speak to you. We'll start with a story in Lana theon about protests in Argentina. Yes. So I thought this piece was published yesterday Andrew and it talks about the aftermath of anti-government demonstrations across major cities in. Argentina. That kicked off again on Monday these sort of fortnight. Against the government of President Alberto Finance began in August in response to a a whole host of issues but mainly, the two hundred day lockdown that was imposed to stop the spread. All coronavirus just crippled the economy and many Argentines believe that these isolation measures have just gone against individual freedoms. An economy was already arguably going to be one of the worst performance in the region this year often Venezuela before the outbreak. So that's what Lana. Jones. Discussing. Thousands to to the streets on Monday responding to the Hashtag twelve as in the twelfth of October in 'cause waving donnas off to the government decided again to extend these lockdown measures for two weeks. Moving onto today where that the Santiago Times reporting on A. Possible mutation at the virus. This is most curious covert related news. A second wave of the virus in the remote Patagonia region is being reported the flaw running funds. Magayani, it's dotted with these tiny towns. It sits right at the very tip of South America and accounts for only one percent of Chile's overall population but his record nearly twenty percent of all confirmed cases in the country and researchers at the local university say that they've detected structural changes to virus, which may actually make the disease will contagious. This does not necessarily mean that it's more deadly although many people living in this area have had to travel to the capital for. treatment. All that it could disrupt progress over potential vaccine but scientists looking at it very closely visit is it something to do with the cold and the wind which has been associated actually with a higher rate of of better around the world. And I was just looking at the numbers as she covert infection rates and actually chilly seems to be. Pretty well but to a country is suffering a Second Way, which is Costa. Rica but that's not different story looking at conservation and especially of sea turtles. Yes, it's something a little bit. More the beaten track but also in science related news is this story from another outlet also called Lila's actually that's focusing on. Yes. The ongoing conservation projects to protect endangered sea turtles, and there's this new technology that's been developed by a Californian company Pacific that's helping to track illegal poachers and sort of better understand trafficking routes and the lead researcher apparently was inspired by the popular television series breaking bad when she noticed how these GPS locator used to track drugs and she developed fake turtle egg so the. Size of a ping-pong bull with an inbuilt tracking device and a battery a bit like mobile phone and up she one of the the the Doctor Helen easy from the University of Kent here in England then went on a trip to deploy these eggs and see if the project could work and it's fascinating stuff and it did it's been a huge success they say that it could then possibly be applied to on the animals and unequally trafficked goods like Chuck, fins and crocodile legs. So this is welcome news. A nice story about a turtle. That's about the best thing that's happened in this program so far so So listened. Thank you very much for bringing. That story that was Latin America Affairs correspondent listened to Elliott and you're listening to the briefing a monocle twenty four. Talk. and. Finally on Today's Program as advertised, we're going to explore some of the week's most interesting urbanism stories and I'm joined in the studio by our very own Rabelo regular listeners know that caller to produce the urban est on monocle twenty four. Has Me and David Stevens partners in crime. Now, we're going to start in New York with the story that I know has been running in a few papers about. The decline was the death seems as the Roosevelt. Hotel. Yes. Such an icon for New York City, and nearly one hundred years of history and another victim to the spanned AMAC it is you know interesting thank what's going to happen to building Will it someone take it up and restore it to its former glory or will we see its downfall to another a block of luxury apartments but it is sadly another casualty of. The lockdown and you know the impact that it has happened on the hospital sector and is interesting here to mention that the Roosevelt Hotel, in New York City is owned by Pakistan International Airlines. So we see here the result of two sectors that have been hugely impacted Did you ever get a chance to go there Andrew? Done into the Roosevelt I've bought passed a million times. I've never been inside same thing and now I'm regretting not having done so but hopefully, this won't be the last we've seen of it. I. Mean a building built in one, thousand, twenty, four, it is ab city I cannot cannot disappear just like that Now we're GONNA move onto Los Angeles were. We know there's so much about suppression and how you're going to get people out to vote and engaging with many people who feel that the. Election in such a shouting match, they don't know where to jump in, but he they're trying to use the La Metro to get people to vote. Yes and I think that's quite an amazing thing in a when you think about public transits abroad I guess in helping the Micra see this is obviously a partnership between La Metro and the City Hall to put drop-off ballot-boxes across nineteen points in the city these are bus stations and metro stations and rail stations as well but also asthma announced that all the rides on election day on the third of November will be free so that people can safely. Go to vote which is incredible. One announcing this initiative era. Garcetti. Los, Angeles mayor was saying you know the health of a democracy depends on participating and that's why we need to do everything that we can to make sure Americans you know exercise their fundamental rights to vote and when you think about, you know the role that public transit has in a city how it's meant to be a great equalizer allows everyone to go everywhere. It just adds another layer that I think other cities should follow suit and embrace it as well. Imagine. Donald. Trump will be very keen on but yes, it sounds a a good way to get people out and to vote now here in Europe. I think an incredible figure. A billion euros has been spent to build a bike networks creating approximately two thousand, three, hundred kilometers of new lanes during the pandemic. It's this tarnishing. This is all sense you know pandemic began. So we're talking from March onwards until now more than one billion euros has. Mentioned across the continent put together at the top of the list, we have France mostly, of course, with mayor, Perez, mayor, Anne Hidalgo hs of championing of creating the fifteen minutes city in investing bike lanes. The French capital on its own has invested twenty million euros opposite the start of the pandemic for this cycle revolution. After that, it comes Brussels with forty kilometers of additional bike lanes are added to its route Milan which has been. For the past two years trying to. Create a cycle lanes and more pedestrianised areas, but was always faced with pushback from. Drivers because of the pandemic and everyone was locked at home, they just did it overnight and our people have embraced it and are going and are using public transport are using these this infrastructure i. think what is what we need to thank as will this change stay here? Or? Will. We have to see more investment for people to finally change our attitudes here in London? They're ripping are also ready, which is a big debate here about. What was good and Bob Anyway thank you very much. That was Monaco's Urbanism Supremo Collado Rabat Nestle. We have for this edition of the briefing. It was produced by reese James Link often now studios manager was Louis Allen. The briefing is back tomorrow at the very same time I mentioned talk goodbye. Thank you for listening.
Friday 4 September
"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the fourth of September two thousand and twenty on monocle twenty. Four. Hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you live from studio one here Midori House in I'm Andrew Miller coming up on today's program iceberg dead ahead at least according to British business and Holy Associations unconvinced that preparations to emerge from the brexit transition on December thirty first going altogether smoothly. Also ahead, a minor triumph of democracy in Libya as voters in Misratah go to the polls in local elections could there be more where that came from later in the show. Hello I'm than it was by shake and I'll give you a little roundup of the Latin American news including the rising cases of coronavirus in Argentina and how Brazilians are obsessed with. Pat. Stories and we'll have our weekly reflection on the degree to which the collective wisdom has been engorged since this time last. Friday. That's coming up right here on the briefing on monocle. Twenty Four. And Welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me Andrew Miller as if two thousand and twenty has not delighted US enough the UK and the rest of Europe still have brexit to look forward to the present transition period ends on December thirty first and difficult though this may be to believe of a government led by Boris. Johnson indications are that planning for this event on Britain's side has been rather. Longer on vague ideas and grandiose assumptions than it has been on details of how anything is going to actually work eleven British customs and logistics. Associations and companies have now signed a letter which boils essentially down to an anguished plea that someone might tell them. What on Earth is going on shoot such a person exists joined with more on this by Vincent mcilvanney reporter and monocle twenty four regular UK politics commentator. Vincent the holy as using phrases like sleepwalking into disaster. What specifically are they concerned about? Well the worried about a pethick stolen, which is again the term Broza that in the height of the possible second wave of corona virus and the depth of Windsor after all the sort of rush buying in bulk buying of Christmas. Time, we will crash into this deadline Webuye haulage trucks on both sides of the channel will stop backing up on most ways they will not be able to cross because some ten thousand trucks make that crossing every single day and. The estimates saw that we will need around two, hundred, ten million customs forms every year to be completed it so much for coming red tape in order to get what we've done for the last fifty years done, and there is confusion about what kind of systems to use different APPS that should be used and leads cabinet documents says that there are now critical gaps in the systems and we will not have enough time to get ready for this Brexit, days. The. Interesting will an interesting aspect of this is the the signatories to this lettuce seem pretty determined that. A deal is not going to necessarily spare as any of this they seem to suggest it's going to be a shambles, one way or the other ways that. Well. I think first of all, you know the idea of a deal at the moment and sounds like it's as thinning and prospects in Downing Street. So James full-size someone very plugged in to the government. He's spectators place gladys's as Downing Street. Now, it's around thirty to forty percent likelihood say no deal seemed like the most likely scenario because the government wants to do state-aid that the EU is objecting to even if there was a deal though there are still huge changes because the fifty years, this trade has of means pretty freely across the channel but now they restrictions that the EU wants to put on on the Alessia Kohl's the checks the. Guns taken on those the checks needs to be taken on the lows as well. All of that is just going to take such massive logistics. You'RE GONNA have to hire hundreds of people and you just need the geography of the room of it's a you know the UK government has started buying up sites in Kent in order to build an effects, Lori parks to do this but will just all see as greater friction being put on this trade, and so you might get gaps in the supply chain. There was a point of course at which an extension to the transition could have been requested but that point elapsed at the end of June. If, we get a few more non-sexist. You don't even have a few more months if we get a few more weeks down the track from where we are and it becomes apparent that there is going to be a second winter coming of Covid nineteen and that it is also clear that they're the plans to keep supply chains moving insufficient does the government have any means of bailing out of this at this point? Well we know what they're thinking because of elite cabinet? Office. Paper mocked official sensitive that came out in August. Now, this was drafted in July and it has the Cherry title of preliminary sets of reasonable West case scenario planning assumptions to support civil contingency planning for the end of the transition period. This document is basically outlining that in a perfect cocktail off Brexit second spike in the virus possible winter flooding. In the UK you would need the assistance of the military first of all the Navy to protect the fishing fleet from illegal EU both incursions. This is a hotbed of contention whose waters and who's fish can be fished but they're also worried that French fishermen in anger might decide to blockade the channel routes causing more problems for haulage. Coming over the channel. So the stalking it goes on and on outlining all sort of difficult things that will be happening. So you know shortages of power and petrol shortages of medical supplies. We already know the government has been telling hospitals and Tom Sue companies not to channel them medicines through the David Kelly linked to bring them in another way to have a six weeks stockpile, but it also spells out. For the UK saying one in twenty town holds could go bust. The Channel Islands might require a military drops of food and goods to keep them going as well. Distancing measures continue it'll paints a pretty bleak picture and flow of traffic. It says at one point between David Kelly down forty, five percent for three months will trigger long queues of hate, TV's in Ken, which was one of the most brexit supporting areas of the country. If we just look then at the base politics of this, and if we look at what we know so far of the career and character of Boris Johnson, is it not much more likely that basically when the crunch comes, he will take the easy way out and claim victory anyway. That is in his character but what is the easy way out? There is only so much longer that you can try to escape reality before you smack right into it there's only so much talk of hoping Lori and Rule Britannia. You can do before the simple fact is that you have by your own actions with not striking dale with pursuing this kind of hottest of brexit's Kostov, an island nation from its supply chain. And when the shops don't have goods and we already saw earlier in this year through coronavirus how people panic votes in you can imagine it'll be worse in the second wave, the buildups Christmas, if the shops don't have good if if the petrol pumps are MC. If there is a lack of energy in our network. Then there is no way of getting an easy way out of that apart from a one eight t trying to strike some kind of deal where you're going to have to accept terms that for the last three, four, five years you have been railing against with Brussels. Just, as a final vote in his cheerio it in one of these strange subtexts of this week has been talk of appointing former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott as some sort of trade guru which has evoked a certain amount of bewilderment I. Think it's fair to say in Australians and the scene do we know what was going on? astern sort of Australian radio into these about the in the last couple of days and they're looking on in awe I. Think. Part of this is the facts that perhaps Tony Abbott is. Maybe being a dead cat to this governments there is a lot of problems they trying get passed the exams fiasco they try and get Pasta Quarantine Jessica that trying to get possible testing trace all of this not working, and perhaps Tony Abbott is simply this month's dead cat, the strategy by which no matter what you're talking about round the table if someone throws a dead cap down on it, you have to talk about the activities thrown a dead cats and I think we're starting to see a slight row back from the government. Appointing him to show that perhaps they weren't that bothered about this plan he's sort of been weirdly. Fan girling around British, politics for a couple of years. Now, I've seen him often in. Has Gone to conferences. Dijk affection for the UK and so he oversees at this chance to possibly get a job but you know all of the kind of distraction that comes with him, his homophobic, his misogynous comments, his climate change denial. The fact that he's recently said, we should let covert take its natural course with the elderly being raised and government ministers, Liz Trust I in that Hancock. They're not trying to defend this decision. You can tell it something they're not on board with many British people just scratching their heads and saying why in the country is sixty, five, million have we got no one that can fulfil this role wasn't about Britain, standing on its own two feet, and so I think the government might quietly drop the plans for the has provided them a bit of cover distraction. We'll to Tony about finally finding a role suits, his talents, Vincent. Thank you. That was Vincent. mcilvanney is Monaco's yelling van with the day's headlines. Thanks Andrew the Gremlin says, it wants dialogue with Germany of the poisoning of Alexander Volney, wishing for more details on what exact substance calls him to fall. Ill Russia has not yet opened a criminal investigation and says, there is no evidence of a crime. U N human rights experts have told China a new Security Law for Hong Kong is risk to cities freedoms in a rare joint letter made public today. They said provisions of the new law appear to undermine the independence of Hong Kong's judges and lawyers and the right to freedom of expression. And New Zealand has recorded a first death from grown virus in more than three months. Meanwhile, the World Health Organization says it does not expect widespread vaccinations against nineteen until the middle of next year those today's headlines back to you Andrew. Thanks Your Lane, you're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty four. Now, a municipal election in a little heralded city of Bailey half million people is not in the general run of things stop of which items in news programs are made. But the very fact that just such a contest walls conducted yesterday in Misrata. The third biggest city in Libya is significant and it must be hoped encouraging it is hoped in. Some optimistic quarters that it might even pave the way for proper national elections and these might even resolve the most obviously be as many problems, which is that about the only commodity, it has a surplus of governments one in the east and one in the West non join with more on this by Mary Fitzgerald researcher who focuses on Libya Mary do we know yet how well the elections actually went in auto? Well, what we know is turnout was twenty seven percent, which is as being welcomed by Libyans who have seen a much lower turn out and other municipal elections happening elsewhere in the country, and in recent months also at, it should be am born a mind of course that this is happening when the situation in Libya continues to be unstable the the rights of covert or on the rhines at causing considerable arm amongst international. So the fact that these elections took place at all, let alone turn out of up twenty seven percent is being held up as a positive at a time when there are. Few positives it has to be said when it comes to developments in in Libya what's also important is misrata part from being the third largest city. In Libya, it's also a key player in terms of the armed groups and political figures from Misrata have oversized influence influence in in Libya and have had that since two thousand eleven. So what happens in Misrata very much has an impact on what happens elsewhere in the country in terms of the power balance. So this idea that this could be a stepping stone to actual proper national elections in Libya where does that rank on the spectrum between optimistic and delusional? I would see that as rather you know a good measure of wishful thinking going on there in that. Yes. While this is a positive step, we're still very far away from the prospect of national elections in Libya at for a number of reasons including the current political situation, the continuing instability fears farther. Armed escalation in the next two weeks but also the fact that Kovic has affected Libya. And exacerbated the existing ils. There's also the question of what happens elsewhere in terms of municipal elections and municipal elections are relative novelty in Libya. They didn't happen before the fall of of Gadhafi. So they're still on a learning curve on this Holly Fa after the military commander WHO's failed attempt to capture the capital and from the UN recognized government in Tripoli. He has his forces have disrupted elections elsewhere hostile is not much at not a very big fan of democracy it has to be said. He has installed military governors at to head municipal councils in eastern Libya, which is the territory that he. Controls. So there are fears that he and his forces may disrupt elections elsewhere in the country including in southern Libya where he has influenced. You refer to have to failure to take Tripoli. The capital is some feed he was about to not long ago. Is it possible that we have seen half does high tide that he's managed to take about as much as he's ever realistically going to get. I believe that's the case I met after in two thousand fourteen when he launched his first armed operations in eastern Libya. He and his advisors made a quite clear to me what they were aiming for which was to. Ultimately, rule Libya they felt that an army even though people would quibble with the idea that after leads an army as opposed to collection of of armed groups and militias they felt that that was was the right pass of for Libya now after. is in a very weak, very much weakened position not only as he failed AAA but he's narratives have collapsed he's narrative presenting himself as this. All powerful. Leader who could do everything that he? Vowed to do that's rather and is now and is causing not just. Libyans. have second thoughts about him but also he's external bankers. After has only ever been a strong as his external backers make him. He's external. Becker is being chiefly the United Arab, Emirates Egypt and over the last year or so Russia. So if external backers are having second thoughts are wondering whether they should look for a replacement for half czar that's all the bad news for him. From way of Libya is now just as a final thought how reconcilable lizard as a single entity as we've been discussing, it has to national governments of varying degrees of legitimacy and efficiency is any realistic prospect that at Anytime Soon Lee beer is just going to have one government. Well The question is often asked whether Libya will divide whether Libya will fall into a partition and aisles always pushback against that because Libya as a society remember it's only six and a half million people. So it's a tiny population in a geographically vast country three times the size of a France. And that population has very much a mixed over the generations of people from the east mix with people from the West, etc. So yes, you have to a degree. Regional identities but for the vast majority of the population, they are not particularly distinctive regional identities. So I think that you know whereas Libya's had one could say defacto partition in recent years with two governments one recognized governed in Tripoli the other unrecognised eastern Libya I think majority of Libyans now feel that if a political process can be. Resurrected and they their ultimate goal. What they would like to see is a country one country with one one government in the capital AAA with a measure of decentralisation then to to address the geographical challenges of up such country Murray from Gerald tanks. Always for joining us, you're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty four. And it is time now for one of our periodic examinations of what is making news in Latin America, and here to help with that is monocle twenty fours Fernando Augusta Pacheco Fernando you wanted to start with Lana Zeon in Argentina yes. It's an interesting story here Andrew Because Lana Jones reporting. More than twelve thousand Argentines were tested positive for coronavirus yesterday and the number of deaths is rising. But this is in some ways surprising because Argentina had five months of fairly street lockdown and at the beginning of. They said Oh it kind of a good example in Latin America the the the the measures are still quite strict, but the numbers are going up and the economy's not doing very well. So there's a sense that perhaps can you avoid the pandemic I'm not too sure of course they have to put things into perspective here so far they had nine, thousand, two, hundred, sixty, one deaths, which is much less than other countries, not only Brazil but in Peru and Chile but. There's a worry there in Argentina that you know they try to avoid the worse. You know cases are picking up again, and if they continue the strict lockdown, there's the fear of the economy, which again is not performing very well at all This is, of course, a dynamic we've seen repeated around the world but there is an obvious contrast I guess in Latin America, which is your native Brazil, which is the government of which has never taken this entirely seriously but. Is Now, getting a small decrease of known cases. Well, yes. Finally, I think seventy percent of Brazil's cities are showing a number of decrease in cases the economy's showing little signs of picking up. But again, I mean comparing numbers here Brazil's the second a country, the highest number of deaths. But yes, the numbers are finally finally slowing took awhile more cheerfully pet stories. Yes. We all like pet stories and you know who loved pet stores even more Andrew Brazilians I. Mean, we've talked about this thing. It's is a thing and on today's visual, which is our bestselling weekly. There's quite an interesting story because you know doing the pandemic Brazilians, adopted manny cats and dogs there was a rising fifty percent of that number but there's a worry here because now that people are going back to work the animals are getting anxious. So they did a four page story on that and you know what? It was quite useful because there's even tips for that. You to please how do you make your animal less anxious I mean if you know that you have to go back to work start slowly of your animals who put him in you know in a small room for a few hours. So he you know he adapt a slowly and another thing she live a piece of clothing with your smile so I mean he's not going to miss. You don't mind getting to beyond recognition by the time you come home exactly. Don't don't don't don't don't leave your best shirts there for your dog as. We want to move finally long to a Globo also out of Brazil I'm quite nervous about this story because A. Send. A one of my great personal all time sporting heroes I was a huge huge fan. There's going to be a Netflix series based on his life, which is an extraordinary story and has been told that Brigham Documentary Center among other places in a very good book by Richard Williams and so on. There's going to be a Netflix series. Now, this could be very, very good. It could also be very, very bad. What do we know about it? I think we were all very worried and he's a hero in Brazil absolute You know I do trust Netflix some projects I think there will be a big budget there. But the only thing that worries me I was reading morphine the Santa Families Heavily involved in the production. So perhaps you know it's GonNa be quite a bland. Series it's the very early stages of the production. A lot of Brazilians are excited. We haven't seen any biopic of as to which is quite surprising. I mean he did more he died you know onto ninety four exactly decades goal but you know. I think the this series going to be released around two, thousand, twenty two. But you know knowing the Brazilian present not knowing the importance of in everybody speculating who is going to play I I haven't told you yet out heaven. I'll happily accepted. I can tell you this that I would watch. Fernando Augusta thank you as always you're listening to the briefing on monocle twenty, four. This is the briefing with me. And finally on today's show at weekly reflection on what lessons we should have drawn from lost seven days. We learned this week that Your Dad's been on facebook again, she's not controlling anything. Biden strings is it former? Obama? You've never heard of people that are in the dark shadows people that does that mean that sounds like conspiracy theory dark show people that you haven't heard of the people that are on the streets. There are people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend and the plane was almost completely loaded with with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that they're on a plane whereas. I'll tell you sometimes but I I it's under investigation right now we learn though not for the first time that US President Benito Cartman, who holds the power to ask the CIA se and the rest of the alphabet soup of the furthest reaching intelligence gathering apparatus ever assembled prefers to source his understanding of current affairs from means of the kind forwarded the uncle friend if you reckon nobody would notice. We also learned from the same intrinsically deranged interview with Fox News that even Donald Trump's most indulgence to Niagara Falls do have some limits and that they're around the point at which a police officer on necessarily deploying deadly force upon one of the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving is likened to a gopher fluffing a part. Observe the Alacrity with which Fox News host and head cheerleader for the Lacrosse team at the University of Hell Laura Ingram hauls herself on the grenade and one bad apple or a joker, a joker they choke. Shooting Guy Shooting the guy in the back many times I've been. Couldn't you have done something different. Wrestling I mean. In the meantime you might have been going for a weapon and. A whole big thing there but they choke just like in a golf tournament. They missed a three-foot comparing it to golf because of course, that's what the media SAG people. Chip, now, we laid to learn the conspiracy runs even deeper. It's water and then they have cans of soup. Soup. And they throw the cans of soup. That's better than a brick because you can't throw a it's too heavy. But it can't help. You can really put some power into that right and then when they get caught, they said Oh this is soup from my family. there. So under this is super my family. it's incredible and yet people coming over with bags of super big bags of so and they laid the ground in the anarchist taking of start throwing at our cops and our police. And if it hits you, that's worse than a brick is got force. It's the perfect size it soon. He's probably still going someone should check on him. But we learned Vo to be honest were getting the idea by now that even global health emergency, a national tragedy costing nearly two hundred thousand lives is insufficient to prevent an American presidential election campaign from descending into Trivia inanity and nonsense that not one sane person mostly cares about. We learned that speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi got her hair done. Yeah really. The thing was and we'll try to keep this quick Pelosi went to a salon in San Francisco, which was supposed to be closed and footage of this visit became by some mysterious machination. Public. Pelosi subsequently performed the rarely attempted apology while claiming to be the real victim here a risky maneuver bearing daunting degree of difficulty. I. Take Responsibility for trusting other word of a neighborhood Salon that I've been to over the years many times and that when they said, what were able to accommodate people one person at a time. And that we can set up that time I trust it that as it turns out, it was set up. So I take responsibility for falling for a setup. So we learned if this is true that Republican party black ops really aren't they were at least the Watergate break-in showed ambition. Moving. Seamlessly alone on the subject of people struggling to adapt to covert nineteen privations and warm liquids the soup from a couple of items back come on Cape up the perfect size it's like made perfect and when they get caught they say go this is just soup for my family. And then they media Sisu these people are very, very innocent. Innocent. We. Learned that at least one Melburnians was to whether every lockdown imposed privation but one. Gosh. Melbourne's finest apprehended a woman in Cities Bayside area who had strayed beyond the five kilometer radius from her home in which every meal Bernie and must presently exist explanation may be. The most Melburnians statement ever uttered if difficult to believe if you've ever spent any time in Melbourne Act which feels like it has more cafes than houses, their walls, she protested simply known good coffee in her vicinity. We hope you're enjoying illustrative sound effects. A great deal of thought goes into them. And we learned that there really is no end to the petty miserable mean spiritedness of the regime at lodge in Iran in country not presently short of more pressing issues we learned that authorities found the time and resources to place under house arrest the popular musician maybe Rajabian pending trial on charges of working with women, specifically female singers and dancers among them. The renowned exponent of Persian dance. Haley abandon ship. It is not absurdly Rajabian first brush with the law. He has been imprisoned at least twice for the crime of making music including one sentence of three years. That's him playing under this team that's going to play us out this week. This is from his latest project Middle Eastern A big-hearted collaboration with musicians from across the region, and this is the Iran track. It's on spotify and so on. This plug might not be much but it's moving nothing. It's a lovely record. 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Afcon 2019 Previews today we head to Lagos for the view from Nigeria about their chances and who else we should look out for
"Uh-huh. At work, everybody, will the Africa Cup of nations is drawing. Ned this event held in Egypt will begin on June twenty-first in Cairo whether tournaments most successful nation, Egypt will kick off against Zambia immoral is remember this expanded twenty four nation event. Now coming up in the next few weeks. I'll be gathering the views and opinions of fans and media likened today. It's Nigeria's turn. So it's too late. Then we'll get the views and opinions of the Sanya what he thinks on Nigeria chances. And who else we should be looking at for while come along then at not Nigeria of miss the loss to event since they were champions back in twenty thirteen vista. Andrew, the veteran Jim in coach Gerner, ru who's managing his fourth African nation after 'gabon ninja Makina facile so to us from. The outside. He seems to have done some pretty good would I to qualify from Africa for the World Cup last year. A getting them back to these AFC calm fun supports the view from Nigeria on him and his team. This is the pros at our house. We grew at times his somewhat tries to play down. The that this team has or the chances this house. If I find itself in group that has gaining Monaco's come. I think McVay constable confident of getting through this group of scared. So what issues with go because I think, you know, tries to Dr Paul expectation and. Also reflects how to team plays as all of his tactics at times last year the World Cup. They had a tough group Croatia Argentina on Iceland, none easy opposition. They beat Iceland, two goals to novacopy goes by Mussa. They made crazier and Argentina were very hard indeed. In fact, there was any Rojo's goal. Four minutes from time that actually turned out cost them very dear. We did see a few tactical changes, though, the course of the World Cup. They started off with a four pack of four two three one formation. They did switch to back three as well. So what, what are you expecting here in Egypt? Well, first fobel's why change? Why did he make tactic that will change the World Cup? I think realize that. As the way too much truck, especially with the personnel. We cannot be turn over to now, Cam no longer appears, but sin, he has evolved over the years. And I think Niger conscience. Misusing it's like getting having a good defensively to try to have a critic, you have a good for, for good six for baton so alert criticisms from Nigeria Mehta changed happened way to tropical into defensively to roll that without saw some cheese, especially the triggers Iceland, that also victim Moses conundrum at Chelsea. He destroyed to win back by two Conti at the time to good effect. So Lana Jones that look you can't be playing one way at your club. And way when you play for the national scene, you want. Play another position. Why don't you have of continues, dowels niche batching at the time. But since that what Cup we have played that way with strip pot for of show up to oppress process process through. The cultural bureau, artifice cetera partnership, and they will have somebody who's just broken through Germany plays in Germany, who's broken lead back. So you're you guys who've left. So we've moved that just moved back into a Fulton three wash shape or form of depending on the personal day uses this has also increased Alex inference are impacted team. He's the KOMO of the critic force of lit, so we've seen a tactical change a little bit of shifting because obviously, this is the Walker allows played for national team announced his retirement from international football. So there's been a change, and we moved away from the three hundred thousand doctrine of necessity at the time too much more comfortable for three one of three that most Nigerians electric. A few specific areas in the squad. I midfield full of quality plays a webby DD, John Kelly still there, plus you this exciting twenty year old from Vittorio Samuel. Chick Wade's could be something of a tournament revelation if he's given the shelter upfront. He natural Mussa and Igali. The big question is here. Are there enough goes in these forwards to deliver them success? I. Guys, finish delicious. Call concern qualifies, as top scorer. So I think my good is a good hands, which has special scoring and also Niger has also been able to share his goes at times which who's not just of at the World Cup. He's always to Japan. Of course, it would become also also found somewhat of a new name on the on the sheets. That's his rent of people's talks now is limits on watching you place for FC Mitchell, and just made his debut, a goalscoring deviance well for national team. The friendliest Egypt. So going forward in fire. My only problem is in the goalkeeping department for that's one. That's another Niger's you know, cringe with fear midfield, where fire in DV is probably the top rated into this position across Europe and most pollen in the primarily driven into it will be in the body bodies report on about the smoke scene. Moves up lose away in Saudi Arabia. Just like do you ever officials Ecolo, whose China, yes, some people have there's visuals with moose up in Saudi Arabia? But what it comes pretty for national, these guys are always able to step into that made of worry is occupied department for Nigeria Paul on watch who's Mitchell Denmark. He's had another very good season. Seventeen goes with his club is any two appearances for Nigeria, but he did score after ten seconds against Egypt in March, he now holds the record for the fastest ever goal scored that the national team that he could be a potential star of this tournament couldn't he. Are entirely. He looks like he has all the politics of the top top striker very good on his feet in the air. Fearless will look at the goal is Egypt also out of nothing expected to initiate, the drive did. And you know, put himself favorite considering the hearts for, for Risco, most likely prince to guy who's the moist balance. Like you said, he's young twitchy fall. It has a great future ahead of Guna. His view on the group overall be wary of deputy nations. E- said they're easy matches. But I hope that we can get out of this group clearly playing safe because realistically, the only serious challenge to Nigeria not winning. The group is surely Guinea. Yes. Should look like. The irony is on a seventeen justified idir two years few days ago. The other South African. Probably that little bit of education, or you know what is what is to come. Will give. Just finding that we're back into the traditional of Africa football from the days of. Kamara. Now, you have legs of educate up in the ones, you know, who's Lee district's growing, but you not the ironic thing is the top the group has caught. That does not mean fit you without nuisance world. I'd only consider focus. So you have to see the real Duke like it seems. Just shouldn't take liking for Mundi. Assize settled Reno who people be the first in that comes out in the second group has got bomb. That is a big big big. Plus for them. And I think the surprise refined. It is ten points. That is commendable scowl feed secondary group, with ten points are not that but it does finish. Positive goal in the group that had said also had a. Zero goes differs. So it's impressive that finished in the group as Senegal to give the start. Whilst we see groups are this teams, of course crucial series. I think that if you cannot do over all of the teams Nigeria still stands out of major the major issue for Guinea, as they found in the qualification group is the fact that goals were hard to come by any manage eight goals in the six games, they played, but she said the defense was definitely one of the best, but over the years when you look back at that previous performances in the competition in Africa may seem to be serially reaching the quarter-finals. They get out of the group stage. I think they've only the furthest I've ever gilmer's way back in seventy six when they were they were run as up in the Nations Cup which was hosted by Ethiopia. Now let's move on. What is the view from where you are on the rest of the nations in particular, Egypt its fifth time that they've hosted the event looking for an eighth? Title. They've won the last two that they have hosted eighties. Gung to take some very, very good to stop them. Winning again. Does this go passwords of favorites like you said at all avenue, because the group DR Congo seemed like the only real major name that couple that is not ticket way in from Uganda? Bob, what you got out on the rise. If you've been kind of if you think about last year's. Chretien and them. Whoa. Compose kind so agent from the hopefully allies, too, too tired. It is funny thing, though, with the strike is in particular. There's a very long list. Includes legendary names shown bars. Let Patrick by Freddie Kanoute a Santos that you need the JJ catch Osama, Latu, DA drug Abani. They've all struggled to match their clubs exploits with the national teams this event the last time we actually had a top score who school more than five goals was twenty one years ago where Benni McCarthy awesome Hassuin shed seven goals each now. Why is it? Do you think plays especially those where the European clubs found it? So tough to actually replicates full in the Nations Cup. Real for why? Why, why? You have to you have to that of shift in terms of touch approach to physical of the game Africa countries, trying much more Technica also talk to council. Where you would normally try finally more difficult. You mentioned bene- McCarty at the time he was quite young. It was on the rise at the time where he feels several nights, eight some of the advanced in age highly experienced, I think it's it has to do with the with the shifts shifting gears in the sense that. At a certain level in Europe. And when you come down to Africa, you have to try and make an adjustment. And I think it's going to probably get a lot more difficult because of the change in the timing of the why vices. He's this move to a summer event. A good thing for you. Certainly in terms of global coverage, the audiences on television, going to be much higher as it's not actually competing with any of the leaks, particularly around Europe, the players as well. Particularly the home based ones will know that they're even more scouts watching them. So the opportunities are enhanced for them on the face of it all looks fairly positive, but what's your view and the people around you in Nigeria, you prefer summer event? Would you prefer to see this back where it originally started in an event that takes place? Just after Christmas, I prefer back in general. Why do I see so festival foremost? Distrust, I goes into this competition together. Secondly, euro peers were probably tired from a long season. Furby ommercial Africa's most competing for is because you have to cope America since you have the financials league about the same time you have think the concoc- coppers, there's female female workup with as well. Couples also Africa's competing for more is, you know of the world. So I think the time was better because also tells you that hosted the June their salad parts of Africa would be a little bit at, at advantage because of the weather. For instance, west Africa June is the people of the Rabi season. And that's one of the reasons why the AFC komo's fix channel originally. So Arab wonder maybe I'm not so. Easy to shake. I think I preferred status. Point, actually, because it's not being is not being spoken about or discussing the only people that have offered of unit opinion or the people that don't actually live in Africa. Yeah. I just were because just look at in for instance, look at the controversy that even situating this Nations Cup. Cameroon for this way, as opposed to be host because stripped of the competition because a sudden the market cafe executive committee decided to opt in number of twenty four out of nowhere. So. Look at so many teams as Africa who's in this competition it because how many Egypt Egypt alone countries are maybe Sarah, because our few havilar of prop. Builds walk class stadiums, and some were classed loosely in terms of having quality stadia. The guy's not Africa Egypt, Tunisia. Rupaul genu-, and then maybe South Africa, those that come Mostert rumbles still that can take, you know, trying to fourteen competition. So I think Africa at some point with this committee were trying to so much. Hurry to track fast game onto include solve any people. It's supposed to be are all what cop summers someone in a bit of where we're trying to Dinu the else touch span. Our conscience, even look at this expanded twenty four nation event there only three deputies here, Madagascar, Mauritanian Burundi caps view is by expanding the event, we will always see the very best African nations. We don't get. It's a situation where as with Nigeria where you want in twenty thirteen. We, then didn't see you again for five years. It's like it's like Europe saying that the Netherlands trial to short Lance. Yes, the euro's. Yeah, it doesn't make an essential me because look, if you're not good enough to qualify. Good enough. There's no point trying to trick the rules to satisfy and. And. Shuki Roussin fries, his tablist consciously. If the swollen issues have closed the GOP on are able to show that they qualified. That's the problem the big measures, let them sort of good enough to get. Now, I want to get your views now on a nation. Who it seems to me every time this tournaments comes around people flock to as one of their favorites to win the event, and that is cynical since the runners-up place in two thousand and two full places the best they've managed not medicine me final either at is say was in that team in two thousand and to navigate manage, obviously, he's gonna prodigiously talented squad from back to front, the likes of Kuta Bali of map the central defense. Drissa Guay Everton, of course in midfield Saudi of Monnet upfront. So so much talented is this going to be the year where they fulfill that potential? Proud to could while winning few years ago on the arena? You know, the good derision. Hugh Goto generations. They have failed to to maximize potential. They have I worry about them because. I think the weight of expectation on this team is huge did for me strike. Have you leaders actually dragged him down the while, you know, pull them through the line? The went through qualification rather easy. The who've Costello neutral goals called Trump goes. The look like appropriate scene. And you wanna this is the guy. But. Does this show that he can actually drug in Donal, true-to-life amateur? I think they will get certified or whatever happens after our, you know, we'll have to leave it to whatever happens would draw, but I do not become winning another team who has suffered after a memorable World Cup was Algieria play great football to watch. Everybody knows that lot of people thought that they should have done better than the group stage exit loss. Time since they won the event in nineteen ninety they've made only one semifinal back in twenty ten can this golden generation the likes of? Guli SLA, Mani, Brahimi, marris candidate Dr Algieria to success. They have to read it players who were. On bedridden the season. You mentioned was. Truly out mentioned a glove fullback. Atom napoli. Out mention the journalists impluse Mars are Sean bonus. I think so huge talented player who has struggled since boy from Bodo Napoli. They have many players who have struggled. You know, over the last, you know, world true seasons and that is what I think, were -ffected going into this as were, and, of course, also changed by a few time the last few years, you know, was the gecko for glass woke up Gina monitor, you know, so, so many things internally affecting Julia affecting their ability to achieve the potential at possess. So if you're looking at them in his group, you have to see what other doubt in group, more likely to finish, second, beyond Seneca group, d dead could this is the nearest that we've got a group of death Morocco Ivory Coast, South Africa. And maybe you talk about Guna playing down Nigeria's chances and just tempering all of this enthusiasm, that's beginning to bubble Baxter in South Africa. He's saying that look we have young. Squad with developing here. We will do well to make it anywhere significant in this tournament outgrew its because if there's one country way, the Pierre machinery go compete all the drive. It's definitely in South Africa. The expectations for the national team's totally overwhelming. And I sit here festival have shoot. Kunle is enjoyed an hour for the season. So it will be going to the racist Cup the main player that comes to mind, his press atoll who really good drilling official series for for South Africa. He's the strike. Yes. Signed by Brighton sent out a loan to union. Yeah. So. The, the main stand point for them because Christians who was tonight, JIRA winning to there. And since then Cintra flutter to the scene struggled against the shells pleaded near Drake is shells after six pass them stronger is Lear. How to go wait to confront pulse. So, yes, I do agree with him trying to calm expectations because they are in a very tough group. I certainly I think he's done. He's done the right thing actually in just saying this if we get out as best third place team behind. I've ary coast, Morocco. We've done a good job. Definitely definitely land Saraf camera in the position of to benefit from oracle co develop it in this group. Is the have arena question. He's money's manage d'ivoire is miracle those two because of the potential emotion that Michael that gave my Kissel have kind of put you to sleep through are probably would finish top in that group because those two been lesson recipient destruction for both of them, they might want to overcompensate for their position group now maybe. I just feel commanders. Have have good time. And then Seve they come build on their presence group in this competition. But anything what is important as the first game? The first game in the group very, very important. More akopian? Maybe I was local gets three points to circle group. The South Africa is critical point as for Ivory Coast followed up victory in twenty fifteen in Gabon with real disappointment in thousand seventeen not winning a single game. They didn't qualify for Russia, either. The squad is certainly not where that talent, there's no DA job, of course will resign is that and of course, they have nNcholas Pat pay who has had a fantastic season with Lille on looks prime for a move to one of Europe's elite league. So what is this tournament hold for every cased? Well, I. Phobos. They have the player that I really really admire right now. Let me guess, less people really, really has a fantastic future ahead of him. But what is important? Are, you know? Are, you know funny about this, this is this is the first time that going into this Cup with a local coach wherein? I vote at the helm sues twenty twelve they've contra series of French coaches, and also ban, Mark Wilmots, Tron sensing. So there's a bit of a home field. We're talking about outta here. Yeah. It Ryan come are. Yes. So that is, I think, you know, he probably has more grounded. With the kind of their play. Like I said it p for me probably the best player in. Oh, outside peers g the same commander the stands out here which is what a lot of other nations just talking about African nations of begun to try and do some nations. Do it. Exceedingly? Well, we've seen Gareth Southgate coming through the seams. Kamata was involved with the under seventeen under twenty s under twenty three's. He's being involved at every level. So he seen a lot of these young plays developing. There's they loved call the pathway through the teams into the full international. So this could be a major benefit. Yes. Quest prize. And even the job because before he got the job he struggled at the African nations championship were finished bottom of their group in over just a point. So it was a bit surprised. I finally could job. But the fact is that, you know, this is also a young team that he knows quite where and he's the puzzle of their development. So at shoe salve as a plus for. And I thought on the basis of three, they have a competition of the lives of front cases, row who's had a decent season at, at stroke in Milan. The Morocco Ivory Coast, the top two South Africa to maybe make it out. The place team. So we think shooting and Molly the to qualify, some groupie. Really group that Egypt's. The you can't main pas in domestic football football imagine solution, and you have a huge influence of nocco biz last finisher. So you have a level of quiz on, on the stabby great for them. So definitely for me there with tops into that group. I think that I would do to the Christian are Molly most cessation on. That group is easy for them. I think strict fans. And I will have sickle position now that brings us nicely to another perennial favourite who on the big occasion, do tend to get within touching distance only to be denied. I refer to Ghana that lost six appearances. They finished fourth second fourth foles second and third time losing finalists in the last eight years that eighty fifth minute, our Nigel ghetto as he's known gopher Egypt eight and twenty ten that extrordinary failing twenty fifty when they lost nine eight to the Ivory Coast on penalties that was off to Bonnie and tallow base. The first two penalties for every koso- will good luck. Accompany them this time. I think I don't the problem has has should be scoring. I think again the have put a consistent goose core. Andrea. Don't refer me. National does the good privately held has a goal a goal every three games reforms. Are you has its one caps on fourteen goals that were some you're so you have to say that as where they have a problem midfield, they're fine? They have a little white players of castle. Call us one Jaffe shlo-, I think need niche being a you wanna talk about immediate ouster be to most party who had decencies out a net common for grandma. They need to solve going problem. That is one thing that's kept up to continue on that image. Cameroon were co supposed to host the event, the defending champions, decent record edgy embracing times as well since two thousand won three times runners up once as well, Hugo, Bruce, deliver the miracle in twenty seventy eight he's no longer there, I'm interested in your views on the coach. She was as a player. One of the greatest of is time of his generation as a coach is unproven, as, of course, Clarence Seedorf. So what is your view in the general feeling of an appointment of a set called big name? Walk. Is a trust the way he he, he started out. Festival, the confusion surrounding whether the host the condition or not, you know, that's one that's the finally finally women to get out of, and now they do. No matter what the likes of Comoros decide to do respect to the issues with a recove-, but say for me. The issues around the quality players. The you're not I was use the guys that play in China. They played midstream Europe to get into the team. And I think that affected them at the start of rent wasn't gradually like it or not. I seen that know how to tournaments proper China Mincy won the tournament who gets in the switch on, and they have a few your guys are coming up on showing that, yes, they stroke the stuff with the big. On is the semi-finals of the Champions League. He might has of commended to look towards one guy feel in the next ten years, or there will be only of many, I'm probably will make a big move. It will from I ex I think the leadership has to come from the back. Tr instantly for me as a strike card, those, those call enough taken seriously. And Trump team of disease shoes. Every ways go to seize the taboos are Xiaokang. It was stopped square enough. Surprisingly moved to peers use still can't scope enough when he's launched apiece. Tim from scoring. Midfield wise and wiz is the one that I think should be the one in the, the leader immature but is also tosses are full up put the collective common always find a witch. Get collective coin seem spiriting ethic is what has coming apart. I think they should be in this group alongside con. I'm going to put you on the spot here with all of your knowledge of African football. I want you to tell me just one thing, it's not a big thing. I want you to tell me who's going to win the African Cup of nations in two thousand nine hundred nine. To win that. Because as soon as you've told me I'm going to run down the road and put five hundred pounds. This description versed. Absolutely. I think Egypt, I come with it. I think it should. You know, the crowd I think each. And if there had to be a team that you think has the potential to emerge from the crowd of the usual names in the usual faces that we see in the latter stages. A surprise package. V. Like who would you who would you pick? Comes to mind, what of the huge Masimba plus? But I think the whole the which win Senator will be my second option or they're part of the top teams. I really have any surprises. Maybe if you surprised to qualify to the knockout rounds, but I don't have any Cinderella story. The big into the business. So if it's not agent, maybe Seneca, Brennan, next concert, probably mention the over the counter conscious. Andrew. One. Howdy, amy. It's been great to talk, and I wish Nigeria and yourself, good luck, you enjoy the tournament, which Shiva watching in the UK, which I know you not is live and exclusive on sport. No problem. It's a pleasure that my dad's been made. I think I can tell that among made it now. Then and views of Adeyemi at his sandy, his based out in Legos. Not enjoy today show, we've got a couple more previews upcoming over the course of the next few weeks. But fanatic from me Tim cable till next time. Bye bye. For now.
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Buddy Guy: Ive Got the Blues
"His voice is intense passionate but his guitar burns down the House. Clean Right Point Buddy guy. Plays like a wizard on a black and white POLKA dotted stratocaster. Sometimes he wears a shirt to match a showman top to bottom. He used to throw his guitar in the air or slide the strings across his backside or play it one handed over his head he's the guy who inspired Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton. And Mick Jagger and Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page and a hundred other rock and blues guitarists you know I just I just live by trying to make everybody happy and that's almost impossible but I go after you. Have you come to see me? I'm coming after you get out if I can get you to get do tricks to get tired. And sometimes they ask me. How did you do that? 'cause I I didn't even know myself I play with a pick and all of a sudden I can make this pick disappear and be playing and I don't know I did that. Somebody the Tim I said. What do you mean you disappeared? That big I did I. I don't know but he guys started turning hints with his guitar in the Nineteen Fifties and as I record this episode. He still playing over a hundred dates a year at the age of eighty. Three only now. He carries a great burden keeping the Blues Alive. When the Blues Legends he grew up on and nearly all the players of his own generation are gone but a guy is stoking. The flame on this episode of what it takes a podcast about passion vision and perseverance from the Academy of Achievement. I'm Alice Winkler. This child is gifted and I heard that enough that I started to believe if you have the opportunity not a perfect opportunity and you don't take it. You may never have another child. It always so clear it was just like the picture started to form itself. There was new wing reach. I could prevail over the truth darkness over light their life every day. I wake up and decide today. I'm going to love my life decide if they're going to break your leg or it's when you go on that play stay out of there and then along comes differential experiences that you don't look for you. Don't plan for but boy you better not missing. He's considered a Chicago Blues Man but he was born in. Let's worth Louisiana. His parents were sharecroppers and they named him George but he was always buddy when Mary Jordan sat down with Buddy guy to talk to him about his life at the two thousand Nineteen Academy of Achievement Summit in New York. She started the conversation by asking him about his childhood in the cotton fields and whether he remembered the feeling of working in the hot sun were you mean do. I'm I woke up and went. Just leave us. We didn't have no electricity. The only I we had if you said steal even churches you a little fan. You do this for yourself. And and then my mom and grandmom and we didn't have we had to use the word stole. Can you imagine cooking stove under temperatures? Already one hundred and four and she's trying to bake bread in his oven with this stove is red hot there and I don't add it is. His family lived in a typical Louisiana Shotgun. House called that because according to law if the doors were open and you shot a gun at the front door the bullet would go through the house straight out the back door and keep on going out and we never lock on the door because you couldn't pay in a while to go on those houses back then and still have matter of fact. There's nothing you could steal. He you know you break it out and say he didn't have to break in this walk in it wouldn't it? I mean people were living in your house. Well it's five of us and the MOM and dad and makes seven. So did you listen to the radio. What was the music in your life? my dad got would raise enough. Cotonou get a radio. I was like at least sixteen or seventeen years. We we didn't have no electricity employs radios. We got them was a bad radio. And if there's any kind of clouds any kind of rain you could get and it was like what they call static all the time you could hear real well on a very clear. A in sometimes not even then but buddy I heard music of course before the radio arrived and he loved it so much that he would pluck rubber bands just to make sound then. He got a little more ambitious and created a simple instrument sometimes called a Diddley bow using tax and other things he found around the house and start stripping strip the screen. I want to make Tash rings right. Take a lighter fluid gain and lake full hose and it and try to make a little Omega Guitar. Sounds pretty good. Sounds good but something. Nobody kept me messing with it. I just wanted to hear some noise and I remember. My Dad's friend used to come by and see me. The rest of the kids would be if you able to get a toy for Christmas. I didn't want that I to do is hear something and I remember one of my dad's friends. Tell my dad that boy. That'd be somebody else. If he had to get. There was no money for guitar out at least not for a few more years instead but he got his chance. Only a friend of his father's dropped by at Christmas. The only holiday his family took off from working to celebrate dry. Kim was only on Christmas. Nomo drank until next question. Now would like a Gal wine and a case of beer at you house. Then we'll go to his house and go to my house and it was over until next Christmas so when it gets out player. Got full of wine and beer about fell off to sleep. I got saying it's a put my good eight nine and we need to put your hand on Qatar. Were you able to play because you know you never know just made no actually when I applied for what my dad always got? Meet at one from the guy my sister brother you make my mom. Run me out of the house because it was like a bunch of bees has what. I sounded like they get him out. Get guess what my sister. She's ninety two year she tell me. Now you can come in. Yeah I'm bound talk. How old were you when you really started playing blues? They want. That's what I was trying to learn because I I was listening to live in Hopkinton article. That one little Juke. Joints heart rate is big but it's big jukebox. And you could points their record for nickel and one thing is as limited Dan. We could go there five years old. She told him not to put your nickel and it will come up lactose record players played eight and Johnny Hookers Boogie. Children and I forget the name was some lightning Africans. Lana Jones. Johnson made famous tomorrow night and I was listening to that trying to figure out what they was doing. Tv At box that you think land no no but back then you know you could count people at A. We'd wall and I made it would be like ten twelve miles. I got so good once. I could walk on a railroad and don't fall off the real to keep from walking and the and the and the gravel and across ties because we didn't have to have shoes to wear seem to jukebox packs. Boy The nickel end. Here's some sick. That was a weekend maybe say Sunday afternoon back then. It is going away to sunrise and you come out to go down. When did you leave school Graduated Eighth Grade has. That's how the school went. And that's just doing. My teenage years other was they didn't have no school. We went to school in charge and they finally built a three room school. And that's what I've finally got today grade and that was it in other words you couldn't. It wasn't a high school. Did you WANNA go to high school? I wanted to line More than you know to pay out and grandparents will tell us you know if you can if you can line anything to get. Outta here get away. Did you WANNA get away Well you don't know right you didn't know it was. It was a better life than what it was. Until you sell art and My parent and everybody out there. I didn't eat live and live the my mom and dad. Excuse me didn't order a bank works. They will take that dollar two dollars and put it in a pillow case and like I said to do the house was open all the time. And you can pay. Nobody take is pretty racist time that you corrupt and you're born in the thirties. Courtesy and you know the fifties. What were they like? Oh the everybody was disabled. And you got some white people on there that I know those kids. Pant who was the sheer crap is owners. They still living and they used to bring away kit amount pound house for me for us to play him because I was like maybe four or five six years older than him while they slept in afternoon and we could play with him until he got twelve or thirteen. Then they would say. Y'All can't play together. You can't play because they're white. You're not think racism and what you saw your life influenced your music. I don't think race do music. I was in love with the sound of music but racism definitely did have something to do with where he could stay while he was on the road and how often his music was played on radio. And how much money? He was likely to bring in as he quickly found out when he started meeting older. Black musicians people like muddy waters. And Little Walter a little water from Louisiana not too far from me and I didn't know that Anna Voice asks me was. Can you buy me half a minute? I'm saying you make it hit records in acts meter by you have a by. I think I had a dollar and I have apology was ninety cents and I gave it to and I say now you have a point as you getting paid for being a making Alisa records now being ripped off and this was my learning like I learned how to play to get to. I just watch them like saying wait a minute. Is this what you want to do now? Because I thought it was much better than that but it wasn't. You know they was like you play. Well enough you might get three or four six dollars or if you play well enough you got a good drunk a good looking woman and that was your pay for the next morning. You woke up almost a play. We'll right this good looking woman fair for me or I got drunk. Somebody buying me I drink and then you saw that these other musicians who are really outstanding. We're not making money. So how did you take care of yourself financially to work days? I knew how to go to work because I left Luther is working at Lsu and my job is still open. Because I didn't I didn't walk away. I told when I was GONNA quit. What was your job? What were you doing recall utilities demand? Whatever they asked me to do I had to do. And what would that be drive a truck or tractor from gas wash ago? Whatever you wonder if any of those students at Louisiana State recognized him in the clubs on stage at night in Baton Rouge same thing when he moved to Chicago at the age of twenty one he got a job. They're driving tow truck and played guitar by night out for two dollars three dollars and my voice home the guy let me have the home and promise that I gave him a down payment and took to the checks from drafted so truck and live out of three and four dollars a night that I was playing. We'll get back. Was there a moment when you really hit it? Big Out that really start playing blues. I think we just did all black people who play in blue a big lift because they came back here and Do you remember the television? Show our Hsien Dick trying to get this town to do Shindig and they say I'll do that if you let me bring muddy waters and they say who inhale is that and we got offended? Say You mean to tell me you don't know who muddy waters renamed ourselves out his famous record rolling stone. You became pretty good. Friends with Mick Jagger. We still is my latest album. Playing how Murray wouldn't saying because he's saying Oh my God. My voice strong. What is normal? We use plan. How Monica on the last album the blues live in Web degree in these homes Ima- British did so much for the black musician and I can tell you know. Bb COMING GOT US and some people like who the hell is that. They kept telling people who and they didn't say this is this is this is blues music to the muddy waters to Halladay who did just totally to which was trying to get into the not to tell when he came because he was doing the crude they might not like what I'm saying but he was doing a lot out the could've stuff and his biggest record was big Mama Tone Hound. And they didn't want they didn't want kids to get familiar with what was going on but slow slowly it was going to miss picking up loon rigid fats. Domino people like that. What was it like to be the opening? Act of the Rolling Stones will let me say this voice you know before they got frames chess studio doing a recall my time after why they came to the dish and they form in my studio like this and I'm like looking at you're looking at them and I'm angry like who is this. You bring it in my successor you know and the stone. What does that help them bring? The answer is upstairs so they could play on inauguration for chess records when you heard him play re still mad at him. I don't think I heard him today when I heard it was getting bigger than bubblegum. That's when they start telling people who I continue attorney was who bb L. older people and not change seven. The first time I went to England was ninety. Six five you know who is my valley and running roster. Yeah what about myself? And there was a group called the boots I was playing with them and we just played a few clubs. And in England did Mick Jagger Rod Stewart. These guys got it that you had a gift with the guitar when I went to England Clapton. Jeff Brick and Jimmy pace slept in a car. Fantasy played. I had the Strat in the voice. They said they didn't take a strike. Play blue and we laugh about that now. He says they don't win. About strap strategy for like a country and Western where we was calling out of you know Tennessee and Texas and places like that when they saw me do it is they might go back here. So Eric. Clapton described the extent of Buddy guy's influence on him at the rock and Roll Hall of fame. When guy was inducted in two thousand five body personified all the modern blues man needed to be technique was and is unique and I remember in sixty five when he first came to England and played at the Marquee Club. I was finally able to see him in person. In the fleshy was Earth Shattering. In style on every level was fantastic. Doing all the things we would like to come to associate with Jimi Hendrix playing with his teeth. His feet and behind his head. He bought the house crashing down. But beyond all that it was his actual plane got through to me with only drummer device lab behind him. He gave her thundering performance delivering the Blues Financing Passion. In a way I had never heard before and they started me thinking that the trio was a pretty good lineup for all in all everything about that night was deeply profound for me. The Blues was clearly alive and well and it looked good for as well as being the real thing. Musically body was a star. His suit his hair his moves. Samba STRAP. Everything was sharp and perfect. He was for me. Elvis probably was for most other people y course was set and he was my pilot along. And here's a little snippet of Buddy. Guy's acceptance speech that night at the rock and Roll Hall of fame. You don't think you've got the blues. Just keep living did you ever meet Jimi Hendrix Hustle? A GIG. See me when you major New York always told I was told you never make it unless you play New York City so I finally got to new Jasper for nine hundred sixty seven and then as good a club in New York called in there and I'm putting on a show get behind my back behind my head and somebody's Jim Henrik Sir. I said what the Hell who is that you know and real retail. We don't tape at my club here. Real real tape. What little like you you could just put Nano plug it. And he's I just WanNa take what you see what you're doing because I counsel Gig to make sure I see you you influence so many of those people including Jimmy Page Jimi Hendrix. Did you would you see things that you taught them when they were playing? Look at it that way. We all got something from someone because when I heard. Bb King and get slam. When I saw guitar slim he was wild and crazy. He had a strat and he didn't have a strap on the face align come across shoulder strap but to get out and so I said well if I learned how to play I wanNA play like be became slow and when that mean to you act like him. Do you know even now gets out. Players will come. Someone is not famous. They would ask me. What do they need to do? As I don't know man you just keep playing. Because he's time I go to stays now feel like man you gotta do something to get some attention of make somebody pay attention to you and sometime a matter of fact the neighbor night. I'll play out. Walk off the State Studio audience and play and do that and now people will look at me. If I don't go off that stage say maybe you wouldn't feel good last night. Fish you didn't come see about is so I've got brand new but of that when you say off the stage you go right into the audience. Yes do that. I'll be trying to get attention. And and that's a lot of time. Next time I get a standing ovation sooners. I'll make one step off. I don't have to get completely out of state if I do this. Everybody Standard now. Why is that? I don't know but sometime I go out there like view sitting there. I come by an hour. Hold a note and let you start to get in his right so I'll take that to kiss an older people. Too and manufacturing people was in that last night we was getting at Walmart. And the Guy said I show you Blah Blah Blah Blah and. Do you know you took my wife. She never forgotten. So you were one of the greatest guitarists of the century really. You've influence so why not because it got so mad at better than me. A lot of people talk about how without you They wouldn't be Eric Clapton. Says that Jimmy Page says that you're a giant in your field. What are you most proud of? As kids that grew up in the south picking cotton in the sun to traveling the world with some of the greatest musicians. When you look at that journey what do you think how? I've been blessed by something. Somebody look down on me. I guess as I'm a picky you out. They tried to Do something because I didn't give up. I tell people if you give up a few prizefighter Other opponent hit you and you just lay down. You can't win. You gotta get up and go again. Do you believe in God. Yes ma'am that's why. I came up in a cherished. Who Yeah Oh my mom was in grand. Mom was from five hundred all. That's all did you notice a my mother would be highlighted. Prayed some Nice I. She used to get used to try to calm down that yeah I mean I wonder. Do you think it's God that gave you a gift. Those fingers could give it to because somebody like. You didn't give y'all it and give it to them to the ray of a C sticky outfielder Lou comes out rain and it's okay. How good you are well. You can saying it's just a matter of luck and timing right people see and you play. The right. Wouldn't be at the right place at the right time and tell you because I'd say a lot of guitar players film still around looks at me. And what do I need to do but I said that I know I just can't play tonight. What's your distinction with a guitar? What do you think your legacy of music icon? Yeah if I'm asking you right back in the food and now you know just my played in my saying eight the best. 'cause I know people better than me but I think I can go out and get attention which I mentioned early so when I get rid of player lick if I play a Lick. I stand like bb King and Eric. And don't let it affect my whole body and hit. If I hit it and I look at somebody else. Let see them as like that. Got Me unfinished. Go after you depot. You know. That's the one out of the water. If you can go this deep you can go to this date so I just take some time. I take it in hidden out. Try to look after my. That's my I say. Well maybe you didn't get it out of way. I'll flip to get. John started playing the discipline. That same poison stop. Stop doing that. Say I don't see somebody play like that. But not like this Will have to ask you about the blues. Some people are worried that the blues is is not doesn't have a great future. What do you think it looks like that? What would lose trees stepchild? Ever since I've been at you know but when we had am stations they played. They Played All Music Gospel Jazz or blues and wasn't no such thing as rock and all out there and was out in B. But now you don't hardly hear Blues unless you've got saddling. How would you define the blues? What what is the blues to you? The Blues is everyday life. If you listen to the lyrics haven't happened to you is somebody might have happened like. Bb King's thrill is gone. Maybe you never had nothing like that happen to you but somebody say I lost my wife and my husband and my three. That's what he met. The Thrill is gone slows about everyday life. If you're having a bad day or something in a death of a friend is there some tune that you go to have some favorite thing bet lifts your spirits when you're down You know I don't I don't You know You know they looked at me and they had a rope that if you could only get so close to us caskey and a funeral home told me you can go over there. And they raised a rope and I went over as you know him. And I made a record lack a was thanking the Lord and at the end of the record. He says you my buddy he want him gone. When I'm pushing up days you steal my buddy and I know he would've smiled and I forgot to tell them when they put in a volt. Now you can't push of death and that's exactly what I said. Look good ad myself. We got to tell you that you can Send up days. Isn't that will. Cause they can't come through the concrete on that and I know he would laugh if I if I told him that for you down. I love the life. We live this to you. Sound good do name the best that ever did it and we got away with it. Well thanks a lot so bad days. Still when people say you're the last of a kind what do they mean but it is the last notice it but who knows about music if they said. Bb Muddy t-bone walking laughter kind. It wouldn't be nobody guy because when you said hip-hop nobody here that CA- these kids was cursing and using profanity. You Ain't gonNA believe Angoras stays right now and saying a blues club. I know someone. The biggest hip hop is out there. They say they got their ideas from lose guy. Do you know what as lyric more saying. I might say tonight's roll. Blues live about. My sister went to milk and she didn't know how she grabbed the ball instead of a car. Mama Mama you better call me a quick or my sister. Bul by it and don't ask that but the hip hop will answer that so when these Kerzner selling more records than I thought I were cells they maybe a little bit on a blues record and ask a Celica. 'cause MY BIGGEST RECORD. I wrote was damn right. I got the blues and the Damn right is is right on top you. You couldn't say that they would beep that when the AM station was playing lose. They will let you say that one hundred years from music still around. I think blue's still be heard bound down. Dome won't the Foul Wall due to foul? You want it. Where are the moments that prompt you to write? Music didn't know that was dumb to buy right. You passed the law. Read Music. You know. I'm taller I don't read a line and music and the riding thing like I said earlier by by by watching these guys who should have been making a lot of money for writing and all that. Bb King in his early days. How would buy every record here? From up to the seventy eight forty five and you look down and ridden by Kane Kane called t. Uba I'll never forget it. And when I got to meet him the first thing I asked them out we start talking now. Say who's he's I don't know that was that took the song he wrote and was getting collecting for the songwriter. So a lot of didn't know nothing about that was a lot of money being made for writing the song. Did you have the most fun jamming with my God? That's a good question of people including Joyce Benson which is Great Jazz player. By the way if you ever meet him a nineteen sixty seven tool you. What's there around him? Jim HOW BINA CAST. I was only Blues Guy and I'm like what am I gonNa do and this is jazz. And they looked at me and say yeah but the Blues Guitar Players Making More Money than the jazz guitar players man says this play. 'cause we're going to pick up something from you so Of course when bb King. Call me up a mighty waters called me up ahead goosebumps pimps top of my head all my neck and stuff like that and I was still getting sometime. I cry cry because I don't think I should be an incompetent but that's a wait a minute. I'm supposed to be listening. Not Plan. And they wouldn't let me get away with that when he found out I would say come in. I mean get up here now you don't. They wouldn't necessarily we might playing or something like that. Come up here play especially became. Get out sit down and I learned a lot. Here's another time be became Buddy Guy. Played together that you might remember at a. White House event in honor of the Blues in Two Thousand Twelve. That evening's performance made news because the two legendary players could jolt then. President Barack Obama into joining them on the Mike when I went into the White House but we were playing for him and one is the people. Listen you know from Chicago's y'all saying we don't Chicago. Might come up and everybody was afraid to say anything. I say what I call it and we stopped playing and we were sitting in and he come up to thank us for playing and I said wait a minute. Don't go away you've got to Chicago. And he has his voice well. I don't know I don't make I. Don't you know even with musicians? You can get me to say good or bad about you. Know so what he did it so you do two hey Chicago. That wasn't buddy guy's first trip to the White House. He went in two thousand three as well. When George W Bush awarded him the National Medal of Arts. He also remembers one time when Bill Clinton approached him. Just before the Kennedy Center honors. Who does go and say Arcane to talk about you know about me? And he went up to start talking about the farm and all that what what I told you. I don't know if it read the book. I'll even have to book out there. What was going into your head. I wanted to say this as the mytalk out. Oh but I wanted to say you know on a farm. You have outhouses if you know what I say. This is a long way from out house twitter. Wipe out but some modest. Don't say that and I didn't say that. I said that I would have got to laugh if I say that. Because if you do picking cotton and Para Que send you to get an education and dream comes up as you had. The White House has federal special because a lot of people before me went before me and they didn't make it to talk to you. Thank you thank you so much buddy guy who inherited the blues tradition kept it alive and continues to take it to new heights. He's the owner of a Chicago. Blues Club called Buddy. Guy's legends and he's the author of a memoir when I left home in addition to the other awards. We've mentioned already buddy. Guy Is the winner of eight Grammy Awards including one for lifetime achievement. He spoke to Washington Post correspondent Mary Jordan for the Academy of Achievement in two thousand nineteen a year after he received special hometown honor just name on December eight last year in name to highway out there and lectured Luzon bone after me and when he came up with the idea that went to the governor and it was ninety seven zero to give it to me so I said give it to me because my mother told me for she died. She says on if you got some flowers give them to me now so I'm smell them. Smell them on. I agree so I say. If y'all go name the high we have to me. Let me see it. And they got it up the highway. That's named after you. Where does it run? Is it along the way we used to walk to the Jukebox? Yeah One last thing. Do yourself a favor and listen to her episodes about other. Legendary Guitar. Slingers we've got. Bb King. Jimmy page johnny cash and Vince Gill. I'm Alice Winkler. And this is what it takes from the Academy of Achievement. 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The have. You ever heard of that word before. I. Think I've heard it. Or my life, but it might be like, like you said once or twice before it's a full judo, it's unbelievable pool by Joe Dolan and I don't know where it comes from I. do remember hearing it like literally once in my life, maybe when I was eight years old and I didn't know what it meant then, but it's just an incredible word caddy compass like unbelievable. So I'm a I'm a word from time to time Joan Dave looking at your background for people that are watching on YouTube youtubecom slash Ross. Tucker NFL. Dave has a pretty sweet Miami hurricanes helmet. A. Dallas Cowboys. Helmet. Talk to me. Dave I. Guess before we dive anything. Listeners to know who I'm talking to give me your background and how you a awesome Gig in the fancy football industry because I know a lot of our listeners with love to have that as well and be how you became a hurricanes and cowboys. Fan. San All. The cowboys moment over here. It's typical Sander late ninety helmet signed by eight men Charles Woodson Outweigh strength. It's actually Gil Brandt will I know I used to work with Hewlett. For about five years is one of the things. gave me. It's more anything about the Dow's. Cows Him. But I did go to the University of Miami. Classic Nights. I saw zero mattress. It's Is there. But I did see one Croatian. Signed by the team that. It should have won a national championship. Dave you are essentially like I've talked to other people about this people, you're like the donut hole. Championships before they got there before you got there, they were winning championships after you're gone. But when you were there, that was like the down years. Great I mean they're loose like what they should cancel the football program. Why? Of Year Miami because they were offer, Bachchan. Really talk but a so into the games in really it's where a mobile. Z.. Grow Shadow was basketball A. Michael Jordan was playing. Jay Z. Broadens the raise your. bullrings. Birkin's Zoos. Onto. Ruckus A. But when a which Miami, it's me South, who is author? A. And I really fell. Ed I it. The ball. Didn't get a job while runway guide. You Force back in two thousand covering pro wrestling was my first love before for. A year and a half after that. Why the rights produce. NFL Dot Com the movie over there. That's when I started working with Gill and fantasy disturbing tonight out it was known as the House. Know. Your nerve. Now, you're young and so when the girl wanted to start investing he. Said, don't yet earlier Leith start writing stuff for us, forces. Did it in some of two thousand, three writing about football cvs? wiry doing this that when you're with us, in two thousand. Go Siesta literally does state job adults two thousand? But fancies Rome like crazy. Thousand five that I'd be doing. With a former NFL player I said, that's amazing. What the Hell's ought. Know Policy didn't exist. So it's grown quite a bit and I really. Rolling to see, but really unders here to help win the national railway. Yet you know I I don't remember knowing that much I from one away and it changed a lot. Even when I was playing like a one Oh to you didn't hear much about fantasy. And I can remember like an old four mark. Campbell. was are tight end in buffalo and his best friend from high school told him. He had to drop them in their fantasy league because mark wasn't producing and that week you can look it up hit three touchdowns against the Saint Louis Rams that very weak and we realized I. Think he even called his buddy after the game and was like, how'd you like me now? The first time I really heard about fantasy and then. Five, six, seven, eight. It's hard to hear about it more, and then I retired and I would say, twenty ten eleven it like just started to explode in terms of popularity. Everybody was playing it and it's fun. It's like It's it's your way to be able to have a say in the game to be part of the game and not a lot of people can be six, five, three, twenty like I was or run a four, three forty like I didn't. But some guys can, but a lot of people think that they can pick the players and have fun picking the players I. Love It. We've been doing a lot of best ball drafts this off season. I love it, I mean I. I. I. Really Love trying to feel like, I, know more about who's going to have a good year than other people and it's interesting because you sent me your list ahead of time which I love I? Ask every guest's Day. I didn't even ask you. You said this before I even asked you. I love to know who their higher on then the consensus and who they're lower on the consensus and why we'll get to that a little bit later because it's not often When training camp starts, you'll have some news, but we have like legit news that impacts fantasy football that we need to talk about a couple of guys in particular that have opted out of the season, and so before we do that, I, will mention because I want to get into Damian Williams and Laurent do thirty of the cheeks. As nate sold or cannon whole ID tackles weird. Tackles are opting out the most alarmed at stuff I. Want to get into but I do know what I mentioned this earlier that the NBA kicks off today. So people like to place bets I told you bet is a good place to find out what you should place well, then you should actually go to draft kings Top rated sportsbook gap. Safe. Secure reliable. Here's why like right now, they got this baseball promotion. So as long as you place a bet on any team, probably your favorite team. 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Apply see draftkings, dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem call one, eight, hundred gambler on Indiana one, eight, hundred, nine with it. All right. So. Here's the thing. I think it was literally yesterday that Damian, Williams. Opted out which I'm surprised I'm surprised. Many guys about the Dow. But. Damian Williams really surprised me. Everybody basically had a Clyde Edwards Hilar- party. Evidently Clyde Edwards Hilar-. Me Up when a guy has played a snap of pro football and already like people are saying, you should be the fifth pick and fantasy draft, and maybe that's true. Maybe that's correct. Maybe that maybe maybe they're right. But. The excitement was such day. Then I guess my question is. Is already over value are people already taking it too far. Will you remember when Kareem Hunt was a rookie with? Nibiru. People are high on compared to the consensus that because I have updated Spencer where the guy we long so. would be packaging city. You know driver. Any result is they're usually prolific any life that most of the time why running back in majority of the heavy lifting late redoubts and I got some other. Inside. And how to read things about Brian, Brian West who. Worked with on today for your way back in the day. I. Mean. Request. and. I knew that there was upside then recruiting on an upside is there now required Z. Larry Look at the overrunning Bax, Austin. In I don't know there's one that's GonNa take a forty five percent. Away, from Edwards as they're. Coming out else. He's sweet. He's already NFL ready as far as go the sand. And I know is not were, would he is still good balling and that's what everyone's. Efforts Larry. Those people who WANNA drag they're exciting to. Get. Minimum. Team. and. There could be snicker be back where he's aged wanting such as today. So I think Edwards allaire chiefs to get at minimum fifteen, hundred yards in. We can talk about over ten touchdowns and I've been touting miles, sanders, all these numbers that. Regards intense. Dealers attention to be better than. Drafted there or miles, Anderson is especially upset because there's nobody else. Really accurate. A lot of work away, it would take. For for. Washing Whitey light to come in and be back with Edwards. On made Washington ends up doing acid work acid short is I'm after I Could do that right now, one of the NFL season, a life. Beyond, practicing. So was you've got that young run by they have just GONNA toss. Easter on. Muscles. lose from bathroom on the Hash. So you, you just last week in Mexico City in get reach track record, easy words I keep doing. And you follow up and some of take round one. If you're risk averse in, you're worried about any meeting those expectations than, yet you're going into direction of rallied lead. Layer. Pencil under actress ordinary are each sounds Nice. But now our back. Not. Woman said the upside at Edwards e layer hats. Recommend that people really think twice about is. On. Rolling that the driver Great Nevins, lyric, rate, with. Challenged. Running, between tackles, following life doing zone seen faces, visited plus catching the ball the. Okay. So like in best ball drafts or any type of draft, talk to me about the Andre Washington and what you mentioned him like, what do we need to know now about the other running backs in KC whether we're taking flyers on them hand, whatever it is. Now, where's the value there? He's an insurance policy. In case I'm dead Mormon. Knocking, that good someone snaps about solar below. and. It was kind of curious when they signed out her Washington off me, why are they? Had, the union was already classroom. But now it's working out for them and it really won't realize in had the. Moment, why wash there? Secretary with Becky. My home and the offense is aren't exactly the same. Obviously, there are big differences between the two, but saw that can hero or obviously there's a industry and the trust factor between home Washington is Indiana. And that's the thing that they're not able to do in in Egypt trading with the one that there are. So. I? Think that. Sort of. Running back, that's why I. Be The next man in his words, the safes, and also the guy that are pitches. Herbs. And I have to go back and see how Loss that he followed, whistle those law. He tried to get him exercising. Russia's. legit. I? Think it's a sound investment, may if you take risk from Edwards Allaire? What about Devin funchess I? Mean I don't know where he was going and drafts. I don't know if you were recommending him at any point in any draft, he's opted out. What is the impact of that? Were you did you have any hopes for funchess in Green Bay Number One and number two? Does that bump up some of the other guys that may get a few more targets that you projected to go funches way? One that suit got a story. Might Been. A decent. Very, late, taking over because at the very least size. From the Red Zone BIG last year. But. Using Punch. Serving And now he's gone opportunities there. Als Arch at number. But. Eating, about justice is a big win. The race on that rebates looking at with is Sola. crusher. Aware of the House will educate me this. Is the second year. Now I enjoy watching college I can lay layoffs. Or because is the packers related has made guys But. Not. Your one of your that a lot of science, nate. He's absolutes Ios late rock. I. I'm not sure mean author or Jones's Were Vaccine Point. But this year especially, Mr ads roster slots because of the whole animated people to have their bus ever. Winds. Feet. Sir is worth a risk. One of those late picks he has there isn't I know everybody's kind of Pennsylvania Mazaar that number two guy. Server potential. The original gate six or seven acts. Usually a really big thing. Ramsey payday if your. Our guys. If you short touchdown, you're probably was. An expert that allow the luke warm. Ahead guys like mark with this. Band, mate, Reggie battles in it. Was Our, but I have all the other guys that are on that circuit. Id Server. Including, Greg, Cosell who comes on the Ross Tucker football podcast on Fridays was very high on stemberger coming at a am. So I'll be curious to see what he can do. Dave last question here before we get to some of the guys you're higher on or lower than. Do. You adjust your rankings at all based on Nate's older opting out or marcus cannon opting out, and it's Ok even though I was a former linemen, it's okay. If you say that one lineman being out doesn't really make a difference to you. You won't hurt my feelings. I'm just curious or even around Delaunay Tardif I, just love saying name in Kansas City do does does any of those matter to you whether it's for Saquon or the giants receivers was? That, the Patriots running backs or Cam Newton because it can and. Does that affect you at all when a starting tackle ops out they? Sure. But. It's not conservative move the needle. Example that doesn't have with anybody name Marin. Brooks jacker and. Ruled out of the season way train. Catcher Eagles I've been bullish standards all mine by. L.. Best SARS. What does that mean that that? The four of Z need that to be a great running back and I was nervous that having most influenced. So the eagles that facing heaters, eaters in grow SPA and. So, win one line was not offer recreates yet adverse. One that. Does a good job. I don't really think it makes a difference with it's win it. Women adapted the line research start testing. Do. Getting off rattle. That problematic in was also gone so both they're starting guards. Are Not all GINA sign of satellites or raiders. Feel better about their own supply, and we'll see the a wildly. We'll see what they do with the rest of the that, but win the deck gets arrested for finding believing most of these often slice already of your debt. Brawl and yeah, I think what it needs. There's another. Our injury or make or Jonah. Teams that have lost on. He starts. Making, change. But one, land, one, nine, all providing or the time line. Kinda. So unfortunately, we won't have preseason fast this year, which I know a lot of Oh really enjoy an I love preseason football i. think as a to appreciate it for what it is, and you know what it is I, mean the people that complain that it's not as good as the regular season. Yeah. No kidding. It's not supposed to be totally ramble is getting guys ready for the regular season and seeing the young guys I. Mean. It's an absolute in my mind, Dave differentiator and difference maker for fantasy football drafts the preseason games, the people that pay attention and watch them versus people that don't because you see what young guys are good. You see what backups getting more love. You learn so much. So it's a bummer and I know we're a ways away from being able to play. DFS. Week to week thing in a match up thing. But I want to dive into two guys that you're higher on than most and two guys that your lower on than most presented by draft gangs, I'm going to keep these guys in mind. When we get to the point in the season when we're playing facile Dave was lower on this. Guy. Dave, was higher on this guy. One of the guys you're higher on than most is Zach Ertz, which I think is interesting. My sense is that the reason why people aren't as high on him. Is Because the Dallas Qatar can really play Dallas. Godart is good. I. Think that's maybe why irks is up there with the kills the Kelsey that maybe even Mark Andrews is that what you're seeing and tell me why you're higher on him than most others I. Think he's Too Big or the heat office to ignore and. The reason why people don't want her because. He's not lashing is volume based the era tonight were targets for being last year. The detractors happen because the. White, house last year, but. Really good. He's not audiences on, he didn't have just one last year. and. I could easily gene eagles artists and. In Twenty Twenty look the data jail reiter draft a legit. Now. Know, he can be. A wheat one. Sugar E hundred. Army Guy. Sean. Jackson also instructs like regular. We'll see what he can contribute any option. Is Nine. Hundred percent, Mike. lap. So Irving got. Just. Zone and a lot of people are putting. In a non, Yard Ganic. He. Really resonates germs vying. Out It's something that. We delete. So when I see that, Earth late arrived war anywhere around five. Ido because. My title, I don't. Wish and Zach's. And I really don't is volumes. And divorce action false. He said being one of the best. I didn't Mc the fact that I draft him. Three rows later, else you're. Not Quite Kelsen kittles. Is Ballot. It's a violent way and unhabited. Dave I'm with you I, the Eagles preseason watch. Every snap they play. Do the pre-game show that Zakar is Carson Wentz. Guy. That is his. Right, like you know when you're five years old my daughters, they have a banke like Zach Ertz is his. And he's the best receiver on the team. I. Mean. We'll see what the Sean Jackson gives them. I think, God. Her is an absolute stud but. Is still the best receiver on the team I'm with you on him. One. Other guy that you're higher on then most people that I wanted to ask you about is Ronald. Jones. Because why variants and what people think of the young Tampa Bay Bucks running back? Yes. So I had been. Battling the world. John's this off season. I starting out, I. Thought all the will be our last year. It was a really good in the boss last, it got off. William in take e Shaw on an Keyshawn Johnson. Okay wrong that. Do One thing. Really well, you a lot of ways solidly, but I don't really view him as a feature back three down back. Even he admitted that his suitable. So. Focusing back on Jones. No, he had a lot of ways less your love watching Phil Ross A time runs showed. Showed slows zero. Who is the editor? Entities were wings. Here six hundred on all the inside ten yards, but outside resource, Raymond, tweet or your. Hadn't been salting to get something out of. A, you know. so he had to break. Through tackle apple or. and. So he's really disturbed show signs of being accountable worm and I started rescue will through may his trailer ZANU meal He Trans Jones Insurance. atvs on in. You know we never reflected anybody could. The same phrases pot rainbows up nicely by outbreak. But was able to actually back it up and user ended about where Jones less as a rookie checkout was germs. COGNIS winter meal that he put on. Weight remaining explosives. And he got better. You were asked action and everybody remembers the player with. maxine. Winston. Got Sad bowl, the ball, this Jackson and Roger. And that suck. People's homes amid saves is GONNA. Be Batch. Will he worked on Path Protection Ed? Day, you'll room in on the field with his. Wheel any. More. Two. Hundred pounds and there's a lot of the date whether it's good for. At Way Neal's lustiest, the weight is added awful good nutrition and working out a long way that it's hot and the evidence in what Ronald Jones did. Last year. We ended last week. Lasts. For running backs example day very. No Gory. Goodwill Wallace. Asked I don't think. Who else is there a take away while jobs? So he's most closely is most visible. He's usually getting better. Intentionally the battery offer also last year. Brady, he's. Kilowatt and the last point I would make is that if you go back and research tracker. Bats. He likes pass either Johnson was one of Shaw recover. Nov. One of. Them would resume active was done, Pittsburgh. I think Jones is suing out way. The areas is gonNA take a look at A. Size. If you can handle assets, actually, we'll get you on a lot and I always like running back. Explaining high powered offenses had a brief. DISSOLVES IN TAMPA Bay the lines and better than it was last year, I respect Lana, Jones that he thirteen hundred yard setting touchdown season the. Number two. Ross. It's you. I might consider taking him as soon as Brown late round four, if there is a serious run run. That when I take them but. They wanted exit He Jones. Day In mind when you're in that round ordinances range and you're looking for an running. But if you want to write night for that, if you WANNA, go running back to start. Adam Jones's your guy and stock. Aid is operatives do good embiid Jones. Clearly Sartor there. You, can get a later in your added shirts Aussie in. Here's Ronald. Jones may soon face really the only way. I see. John. Defoe's to monitor you really better action. That's the only way. As. The one that the bus among veges. Are I. Want the F. S. kicks off, and we're all playing on the draftkings APP. We're going to look to get guys like Zach Ertz and rile. Jones, every week on the flipside guys that you want us to stay away from Dave whether it's draft kings DFS or season-long drafts coming up. To jumped out to me that you had. The first one is Aaron Jones packers running back. You're not as high on him as other people are why not? US Why would the packers go and Dr Ej Dillon with a second round after Sarah Jones year that maybe they're doing? May Me they're doing it to plan your event? Is John's the fridge and after wave All. Running that is easy. Rehmat is you can find a guy to replace US pretty. Easily. It's certainly. A different type of guy, the Joneses he certain more, is it oil derrick? Henry Ish and we know that was headed seeing earns are breakout Midi looking for? I've been. Jones. Has said no chance matches. They were control in his yard Max. Out. And sharing the ball with dylan animal woods by the way. Williams fairness Journal. I if hutches going down role declining a little bit touchdowns way. Second most. Words. Neo, just. I. Don't know. That's necessarily something. So, era, Jones is going in working on I'm looking at the NFC average. ally. He's going into the. Oracle. Early. I have to a lot of senior Jones. Read that I would be too and certainly not as talk the. Last one, I saved the best for last. Dave because I disagree with you on this one. So I'm really looking forward to getting your take here. I've been touting Odell Beckham junior now. Listen. I am not a guy that's in love with all the off the field stuff. Okay. I'm not never have been. But the guy played last year. With a sports hernia and I did that my senior year of college. That is a tough injury. I mean to Sean Jackson had surgery played one game with A. Lot of guys don't even play with it. He played the whole year with it. So for me, you've got a healthy, Odell Beckham Junior. And I think he realizes you know the shines offer him a little bit. He's got something to prove then you have. Baker Mayfield knows how important year three is for them I? Think. Stansky. Is Light Years Better Freddie Kitchens and it came out this week that Jarvis Landry. There's some question about whether or not he'll be ready for the opener after this hip surgery which to me is even more touches for Odell Beckham, Junior. I am very high on Odell. This year you are not tell me where I'm wrong. Well, let's say this round who love. Your. That's a good question. To. Now probably three if you're saying where I'd love to Jake and be. Right back. Around for. I also. But if he's in rivalry is yours. I'M NOT GONNA. Take making. There are other receivers that I like better imagine the injury Russell third straight year weren't injury is. So I'll concern about his ability. In the past two years because of the injuries. had eleven hundred yards. In, any of those years last year, Yard eight-week retirements for game. That was a career low by two targets for a run out that I'm worried that maybe not quite soon, guy that it was his first ears. And we. Talk. About, all the amazing in do. A whole lot of that from him save for play your, they're lashing in Cleveland more place like. New, York, I really wants to. Light. Wreckage, there are coaches that are. With the Browns at last you but Austin can. Served. In there I suddenly, one way nick jump. Off Wife Look. Was offseason if you takes a look at your? Seat will. Earn, rumble, they also added. And I know people are really excited about. Super. Fancy. With them, but big meals have urged shot. Helium, our hands, will you love me on a tight end? So? We get to the red zone, your own. grew an awesome who were in a lot of touch. Yards. But you believe retouched Anyway, he can give. One, action. Runs. Access coaching is not out. But it also as it used. Teams one dating away, and it'll be easier away. A jar is your there is. A good route runner Uber that's GonNa come along in a were win. So I think that will be good I. Think he's more number two. I. Don't believe it works Ralph, repair serving on around. From take? Cooper. Or our life, it all add up that. You can tell he does this every day and you can tell does it for a living what an awesome episode with Dave Richard Check him out on twitter at Dave? Richards been doing this a long time. He loves it. He does it every day on the fantasy football today podcast I will be going on that podcast today as well. Really looking forward to it should be awesome redoing the old home in home if you will. Which is great and I'm going to share some insight Cheddar rip apart. Dave's rankings a little bit and gives them gives them all line insight on his show later day Dave. Thanks so much for coming on. This was awesome. Is exactly what I thought. It would be. Thank you. lost. That'll do it for today's fantasy feast podcast. Next week we're doing do next week is August, which means tears of, Dolan. Wait till. You hear the tears of Dolan Song, I'll be shocked if you don't cry Tears of joy when you hear that that funny, it's data. Amazing. I'm GONNA, talk it up too much, and we'll start to get into a lot of fantasy football strategy for this year. It's almost time other than that checkout even money in Ross? Edgar football. podcast from yesterday, we got Greg cosell talking about the players that opted out tomorrow on the Ross Soccer Football podcast other than that. I'm stuff we're done. Thanks for listening to the fantasy feast podcast, make sure to also subscribe to the Ross Tucker Football podcast, even money business of sports and the college draft. All available at Apple PODCASTS, Ross Tucker dot com, or wherever podcasts can be found.
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But that's all the time we have so binge all the episodes now on iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. are resident. Beauty grew is back. I carry claude l. otherwise known as the nashville beauty girl is here to talk more thoroughly about what to ask for. When you are visiting your beauty provider to ensure that you're getting the beauty treatments you actually need and not just spending money pointlessly on procedures. That aren't right for your skin. She breaks down what you should look for questions. You should ask in the problem areas. You should focus on. Here's our conversation fuxin dress up now that i'm looking at you. Of course. I never get to dress up a little bit. Abou- care and beauty. We're talking more. We started a couple of days ago talking and put so much. Focus on inner beauty with thatch lately. And that's what i'm really called. Do ask such a big thing for us to really just like glowing from the inside. And so sometimes i feel like. Oh my gosh my contradicting myself by talk about like getting both talks or doing all the things to like make myself. Look a certain way Battle in my head but the reality is and you're really good about this but when you feel good you get confidence too. It's another form of confidence. It can be a form of self care and it can be tied together. It doesn't have to be one or the other like. I comforted in my mind to talk a little bit about Just like what you're seeing in the office lately and what one of the things that you really want to bring to people really educate people on lately definitely my motto. Because it's in my instagram is their best damn beady competence. One damn good treatment. At times. But i agree with you i fall. Self image is so. vip I think it's good for you. Know like we say when you do good you look good you good when you do good you feel you feel good you work. I mean it's it's very true And i definitely see an increase in patients. who are. maybe they're seeing things at all of it more superficial like brown spots texture. Maybe the way they look lower face because of his doom calls in working from home. And you know when you know. They're working from home and they're not like sitting on the effort in getting ready to go into work is this. I think it starts to play with him. Does with me to mentally where you're like you know. I i look like i feel like i. Don't i wanna be outside. I want to be socializing with others. I want to do all that then. You go outside of do that. You're like oh. I didn't get my nails done having my hair done in like weeks. I just don't feel i just don't feel like me so it kind of it really messes with your self confidence and i think that this whole pandemic has done more than just you know what it has done but mentally in self care is an self image is definitely a huge huge part of that. Yeah agree with that. Was actually having that conversation with a friend. Lafley again how of what you were saying like you just never get adopted more. I'm looking right now. This is like how way glasses no makeup hair dirty here and honey tail and it does like as much as it's kinda nice for a while. It was pretty nice to not have to worry about it now. For in life you have to know like get my groove back a little bit. Mike fat joe like i got i just wanna feel like myself. And that's a big part of your practice and like what you bring to your patients making feeling the bath version of in. It's all who i mean. If you're looking at little paul's that you can take from just the whole last year army rebrand yourself. You know i mean maybe it could be something like a little bit different her hair color or maybe the way that you're wearing your joggers. And macy kitschy a distinct We're like why. I'm sorry for rebranding when you re meeting of rebranding yourself image. I think that that kind of makes you feel better. You know annette. Sometimes you need a little bit of a of a push and of course with in office treatments or my patients. I definitely kind of like pushed. That because i love seeing the confidence of a rebrand totally. I never me when i heard you make up I love her makeup. And i left lane and you know. Obviously what i'm really drawn to but the best part of my job is seeing. Someone feels good when their way. You know like when. I'm done my job and i'll see them. Look in the mirror. Put their shoulders back. It had like air about them that you get a feel good and that's so rewarding for me in the thank you same. Yes yes yes i've talk about. I want to talk a little bit about when people come into your office in like what you're seeing because one of the main thing you talk about a lot of people don't know what they need so they might say. Hey any rebranding are. Hey amount feeling like my best self. But like they'll go into the office and be like give me excellency in that's not really targeting Getting all these treatments hang on his money. It's not gonna keep going Yoga what what that looks like and what you see on today. That is the most common thing. I see And i think that the importance of getting the right treatment for for you or for your skin is is so important. And i feel like providers don't always deliver that they might suggest something that's like. Oh you should do. it's on sale. But you know what you don't have. That scars are large pores. You have more pigment. So i think that you know never won by you. Know knowing going through appropriate treatment protocol organ console. It'll say cash It leaves you for billing disappointed in the long run. And you know there's a there's also a fine line between doing small things to improve your competence and enjoying a lot of things to change the way you are. Because they're not in that business. Oh so so. I mean that's definitely you know what kind of had that in your mindset when you're talking to a provider I think that there's a few things that patients can do before they come into the office to kind of figure out where they should be going or like what they possibly could need Because a lot of times patients will come in and say. I want look filler And i'm like okay. I know that you think you need that. But it's really a bigger picture and it's something else going on. That makes sense to that. So i love kind of figuring out my patient and in that way you can kind of conversation of the all over improvement. Not just something that they tell me. They need so. I know that what you think you might light. But it's not what you need. And so i think when providers start to giving patients what they ask for instead of like really you know look at the at the artistic value or or the whole skin condition and getting them left or right treatment. Plan is when people start looking really messed up. And then of course. They're disappointed and they wasted a lotta money. So i often like to patients in need of this even part my kind of getting to know them protocol like when they're filling every worker before we do have our tool consult is like i want him to look in the mirror and look and see what really bothers you. When you're looking at yourself. Are you putting them attended makeup. Because you don't like your pigment. do you look like you're sad. you people not is it your acne. Acne scars so or you know. Have a get one your best friends that you talk about with treatments or with skin like a good sixty and say hey look at me. I'm trying to figure out what it is. It's really bothering me. I know. I hate this Had that conversation with that friend. So when you're coming into the office you're doing a consult you kind of have a mindset of like okay are we talking about it is it aging Acne acne scars. I'm been dealing with forever. Which i know is frustrating. Is it prevention thirties. In starting to see season little things happening. Facial balancing is an injectables interested. Jimbotalks mean so kind of know. What your what's your thinking that you want to discuss and then a good provider. We're going to go down that avenue but we're going to act on my face in front of the big near and army facial balancing with them and that kind of honestly if you're a good artistic provider when you're having a conversation with someone for five minutes you can really. I already figured you out. I'm just getting that lead way of that. One sentence i cited me of. What do you think. I need which is a very common housing with me. My patients that no me like whatever carry says. We'll do it but it's but it's it's like sometimes it can be awkward in some patients. Are you'll insecure about things depending on their age or like they're coming into and you know and so it's it's making them feel comfortable and then china's figure than out on their lifestyle and then what treatment plan will really focus on their main concerns which enables you to have the trust with them and then they'll trust the the whole aesthetic industry in skincare goes from there into an office there and you say hey i want this law Jock you should actually be lagging it. Yeah and a ilana sales like you in most good aesthetic Studios you're gonna see a lot of Sale like this month is not cardi delaying for knowing ninety nine like you're not going to see that we're not gonna put everything on sale what you get when you come to see as a treatment plan then on our end is i'm doing six treatments. I suggest this. I'm kind of discounting for your fourth or fifth treatment. Like i'm making it worth your while under budget by malcolm promote like it's on sale macaroni. D'alene do this do that. So i definitely agree with you on that. So you're saying like if it was a sale a discount migrant needling is a lot of providers or maybe going sherrod says it. It's not an all treating the actual in you. Yeah everyone can do it. You know. I mean since i mean you you can but is that really where you need is could you spend two hundred dollars on a laser treatment because you have more. Pigment whether micro needling is it gonna target of your payment. So because you're frank dot it or because sal doesn't mean that that's what's good for you so it's not customizing it for the for the patient we said this before about the importance of finding provider that each dress. He has like when i come into your office. I literally never had of what you're doing up with sitting in a chair in. I'm like i don't wanna look tired a little bit you those i take. That data is your main concern. You don't realize it but you kinda tell it to know. Yeah i'm like are. We went through this last hot catholic debit. My skin on his skin care regiment again. That didn't necessarily fit my skin. And you were like you're just not glowing glow in a dole. Who started a whole new thing that now accessible because i see the difference because it was crafted or yup and it's all experience. I tell my patients until everyone. I can talk to you for hours about why you would benefit from using zero care. Skincare or in doing this at home. Or why you would benefit from doing a bit of botox or why would benefit from doing this laser treatment until you experience the entire until you experience anything in this industry. You're not i mean it. It's a whole different conversation after we've done the treatment and you see what happens to your skin. You see competent. You have in your skin. And so i feel like i really try to narrow in on the treatment plan getting the patients to trust me trust the system and then they're like oh look at these results. What happened and then. You're you know you go from there. So once you're in it's it's all it's it's experiencing it. Yeah totally see that another thing. I thought about you know talking about the providers kind of selling author now social media and so it's like constantly do it to like i post things that worked for me though. Yesterday i had another conversation with a friend and she was telling me that. She really loves her provider because she subaru oily skin. So i'm always talking about the mathur amazing Walk bunch of her provider actually told her grades. But that's not really what your skin needs because you're super type. Yes so it was the perfect people like. I'm very dry. So those are they literally are game changers for my skin without as you told me that a long time ago because you have mass candidate needed that yet yes about those and other the other provider because maybe you know the skin type i have when i see someone that has similar skin type or similar situations me. I get all excited. Because i know the treatment plan. And maybe you kind of niche in that where you know maybe my strong point might not be dealing with deep acne scars and acne. Because i didn't have that in so it's okay to even say. Hey you know what mike. I work with another provider are no someone else and they do relate with your type of skin. I can help you with this. That you're gonna get the best results by talking to her. What she niches in. And you're right. I mean i have an old can have overall. It's pretty broad. I mean like. I like dry. Skin gamble a ball But when you have a situation that you personally deal with in you think it makes you even better provider. You can niche in that area. I don't. I'm not afraid to tell you. I never never afraid to tell the patient. No no more injections for you or you know. I don't love. Doing deep temple. Injections dr jeff loves it. He's fantastic he does mine. You have a beauty team. And i think that that's if somebody thinks they can do one all and everything. Then i mean you might need a no question is also good afternoon. Would you like to try a free. Sample of our double fudge brownie. Oh sure that's very good. I'll just take one more just to be sure yup still very good. Some things never change like never being able to take just one free sample and geico. Saving folks. Lots of money on their car insurance macadamia not taste. We'd take one more sir. I thought so fifteen minutes could save you. Fifteen percents or more casper's president's day sale has arrived time to reset your rest with up to fifteen percent off supremely comfortable mattresses and bedding to make you year. 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What's good for me. What treatments are need. So i think that's when the patients a little bit more educated on what their main concern is then. At least they have that background knowledge. That when they do go online to look for you know products are make up or they're going into an office. They already kind of know okay. She's turned into murder needling. The talked about chemical peels lasers malaysia. So it's just that's put I know for me personally. As being a provider i feel like my niche is to help women in men's figure out what their main concern as educate them so regardless. If they're seeing me or not they are going into a provider's office which just that background knowledge. Why would you say to people who are coming in your office. And they're just like. I don't even know what to ask for like i don't even know what my main concern at. How do you identify these things within yourself I mean i. I i first of all i make the patient like my best friend of their mom or sister like they can comfortable enough to be like open. Because i mean let's be honest if they see you come in and do either makeup or on social media. They see me command blonde hair. Whatever there could be a little intimidating. So i think the biggest biggest thing is to make yourself just very Open in talk to you and like you other friend in that. You wanna help and my first question. I asked everyone is. What's the project. So if i have a patient that is like won't get married in three months or well. What am going to a wedding next month in my ex boyfriends gonna be there dash it matter we want you. I'll let that gives me time rain and then you know where zoning in on the their main concerns i know i ask them you know. How can i help improve your parents. How can make you feel confident. And then the small Answers that they give me allow me to make it more of an open question and then we go straight to the mirror and we really kind of figure things figure things out as when you're doing the mir with them and you're looking you're talking with about the then of course the the treatment will it'll it'll it'll unravel Also your lifestyle. Now if you're on the golf course all day orth you're working out day. Are you really gonna do the stats like. Can you have some peeling. I mean so those are just you know things to consider when you are talking to someone with there. The treatment plan figure them out. I always think that good skin is the barrier is not the very yes barrier with the having the skin doing things that they can do at home but keep it affordable in makes sense than that's usually firstly ways like what what. What are you doing for skincare. So when that's what they're doing for skincare they're not gonna already my mind think this is why they're dealing with congestion. They're putting oils over their face or in their skin. Tight so I probably more than likely if patient just doesn't know they know that something they don't like something about their you know their skin of their face. go in with the skincare out. What you're doing just like how you wash your face tommy. something from. They're not not interesting. So would you say After the initial visit to the office the next right thing is to figure out like what's the at home procedure that you need to take away once you leave the office skin-care hundred percent ninety percent of your can do you can treat ninety percent of your main concern with with right stinkier at one hundred percent. Believe that and it makes your office treatments even more effective. So it's looking a concept first of all and if you'd pay doesn't know what to book for with i know they to get something done always vote for the hydra facial look for a hydra facial the hydra facial patient one hour to be with their cosmetic nurse as tuition whoever's in practice but a hide. Hide your vasile is for any skintight. Any complexion in they obviously any concern. Because it's customized and so But it also gives its. They're gonna leave with a glow their skins going to be cleaned and then it also when they're on the bag you have the compensation of their skincare so there's a lot that can happen if the providers asking the right questions in because the patients gonna love their skin with their dumb hydra facial. It's not it's not. It's not like a scary laser. It's not this. Would that have assessing them underneath a light and you notice. They have like a little redness or rubbing capillaries are brown spots. You can talk about those those treatments with the hydros racial because a hydro On despite itself every four weeks you can. I'd love to do it. And i their skin. Ready for doing lasers appeals other things by doing a couple of flights of the hydra facial. So it's a it's a very medical skin. Treatment that cleanses and extract extracts infuses hydration and it is my workforce but it's a great option for in-house treatments when someone said someone like i don't know what about when i get something done. Look for a hydrate when you come back in town. I can't wait hydra. Facial he said. You're gonna laser me up this time. To what would you lasers for brown spots so lasers man love your subject so love lasers lasers are the name of the game when it comes to when it comes to aging honestly lasers do so much without even realizing what they're doing if you're even going for our hero concerned so for you so i'll do. We have like a laser genesis where laser facial very superficial laser. A carpet treatment defecting You know it's affecting the Epidermis not going down. Deep is tightening. No downtime Titans pours. It's great for killing bacteria. Acne is rate introduction into the laser a laser world that she can do in combination with a hydra facial or other. Things is you can do every month. cumulative result and like i said it's just a very superficial Issues or poor. Anybody can do it. And then you know then you look at pitt so users for pigment red spots brown spots in so but by hitting that ignite. You're also making your poor smaller. You're making your skin more rejuvenated. It might delays irving. That's gone a little bit deeper. So it's causing some skin rejuvenation in. So that's kind of like the you know the the the second of laser you can do options for. And then you've got you know lasers that are a little deeper. That calls a laser. He'll so we're kind of getting off Acne scars texture pours brand new fresh skin brown spots all of that. But when you go a little deeper that type of laser and that's more like heard like a co two laser or halo which the laser appeal You're gonna have like maybe a couple of days of swelling deeper. You go the more heat you give your skin reacts with more swelling as opposed to chemical peels your going to be more readily peeling. But you're not gonna have the swelling lot of times for patients. It's the swelling. That's the downtime. Not appealing the retinas. I know for back. Like when i have a laser something not get swollen Feel fat so up to me. I'm like i tell my patients l. down is you're gonna have a couple of days the swelling so to me. That's downtime so i think everybody's Tube i don't i hate that feeling especially if you're living with your boyfriend or you're like i want them to senior looks. It's just you know swollen. I hate looking swollen. My boyfriend's out of now. That's how we do the treatment plan. So when i hear you know i know that your boyfriend i kinda ask questions is i'm like okay. He's in a town in. We're ready for this next as in your skin's ready for it then we're going to do this when he's at a town so baby. Why do you do that yourself. You don't need any of that. And i'm like what is that. Look like this. Use this stuff and you go on beautiful. Sound mardi getting this. If you only knew or gotten this you would have never met. There's boys are so funny about it but it's also funny to exchange stories. All my friends always niki taxing. You like hey he's gonna be out of town and i get it. I'm that girl to get it. When i get texts and i would want someone do that for me too. It's so true it's so true but the but definitely you know once you start you know stays a hydra facial and then you start adding in a couple of things with hydro facial time that's when you get into the combination therapy Phase and that's when a lot of results really happen because you're doing things that keep you looking saying you're just keeping your pores tire stimulating college in You know dan were kind of like. You're trusting your provider. You're trusting the system trusting the treatment you've had the experience and then we can be like okay so we really know lower face. Jialing lacks dean the chin kinda zone on that. Because we're already friends at this point and you know you can trust me. I know what you're doing a finding muscle looking deeper on I'm like her thumbs kidding. Yeah i mean and also to the mean. My patients set patients. That are in your twenty twenties thirties realistically once you once you target. Their main concerns are really only need to see them twice a year. Like for a tune up in your forties fifties. You know three times a year and fifty on up He could be up to five or six times a year that i'm seeing them for their for their for their tune up in in so it's like every decade has like a little bit more of a of a treatment. Plan the best. The best is when you start when you're younger in its prevention Teeny tiny little things. So the realme things as you get older. You're always looking like you. And it's a cumulative result in doubt. Lana jones patients look back. And they're like dang. I thought on fire in resting reports that i'm thirty years old now better now than i did back in so it's just You know it's it's just getting established with good habits and small little tweaks so long run. It's not like this. You know overhaul because someone trading someone that's over fifty skin laxity in it's just the anatomy out. Just how your skin aging bones move. Ep do a lot of things as into a look like you had more done. You actually can do a little bit more when you're younger. I in my in my you know the because you can hold a little bit more but you also don't want you know just more someone who's as they get older it's Tier will so. That's where i think about our conversation earlier with. It's okay to say no. Don't the patients can Meghan exciting they kind of get low aggressive near like. I really wanna please put some people pleaser so i really want to get. I really wanna make them happy. That really you look at the big picture. The clear for skin a little bit gonna make their looks look better. Don't need to let you kind of have to all her education approach and i think a lot of people especially once you start doing something. It's such a slippery slope He start noticing every little thing. And you can get. It's it's almost like version body. Morpheus where you're not seeing your face same way everyone else is and so you think it's a very fine line between getting just enough to feel like your best sell versus just completely going haywire and zach. Easy much into all the new nurses out there that want to know when to call night nursing. I really encourage you to take some some site courses along with is always it is. I mean you have to be able to be. You know to to recognize a body morpheus in the patients and then also not to turn into a monster like to keep feeding it It's it's it's been doing more research on this. It's so interesting it's so interesting but of course we all have that. Ns and it's it. It's that's what a slippery slope comes in let like a hit. you know. it's like that. When you see the result you start to feel better but then you're like oh eight what's next and you just have to really kind of rain yourself ago way. If i'm happy right now maybe i should not really like lose yourself to it very very true very true but it's a hard place to be because those confidence feelings are so they're fine. You know though. Yeah but even like plastic surgeons More than i would and so. That's that's something that's like a you know that. Yes so when you have a beauty team. I think that's where you have your my e someone where you can talk to you. More about you know other issues are no body in the face in whatever your treatments but then maybe i'm kinda maxed out i can help you with and you're not listening to ease up might out. That's why i love working with plastic surgeon than i have investment institution. I work with because we're all beauty team mayor. So i'm not bagging with you and you're not listen you're not hearing there's other Look so good. Let's look at your before officials. Look now look at the difference in just a quality of scan To see it in your eyes. Then i'll have them talk to you. Know high tap and say you know in an instant different conversation because time still just listen to others differently than they listen to you. So i think that's the big importance of you know saying no and then also making referrals onto someone else and having a team that's okay. Well you guys can find out. Carrying i did a podcast a couple of months ago with nice king. Herod in what we do in although i still highly recommend people to go talk to their provider or are you still doing virtual lottery covid so they became very popular and And i do the process of doing the virtual skincare at home regiments with zeo. I love doing it. I put a stock it. For just a. Because i'm revamping it and tweaking it to make it even more easier and i can enact also in help more people so been a process that it's so fine at unfortunately with zero skin-care on the website. They don't send an expert trainer in the box. They kind of information on your buying your products in. So it's that's where. I actually love doing it in organizing this care and then taking the two different phases in their scheme because the results are so consistent. Yes oh it's coming back. I'm i'm just tweaking. A few things always here for any questions on instagram de national beauty girl and then patients at hammer cell phone number. I time i'll check in on seeing them in nashville or even in tampa and say hey patient to me. Let's do a little facetime can release your main concerns that we're wearing the treatment room. We go we. Have we have a plan in so But yes so they are coming back. Says she does the console. Check out your skin and tell you which which products you do need was products. You might not need using walk you through the process of that said that's just to keep up with when you bring that back of the best thing for people to do. Follow you at the nashville beauty girl on instagram. Yep instagram is where i do most everything and then it will direct you to a web page where you can properly farts. Chill console or nashville or tampa. Okay gray and then also you guys again. A lot of questions from people about retin-a. And if i use it and that was one that a podcast you and i did a couple years ago so you can find carey again on the velvet podcasts. Talking about retin-a. I think another talking about lasers we've done a couple Just also about bosox. I think lot of people are really scared. I've talked about getting better talks before. And i don't feel like i have risen vase says i think it's all about again the right provider but reach out with any of your questions is at the national beauty girl on instagram. And is there anywhere else. People combined you not right now. Where do you off of. Twitter's never non pretty safe my instagram world right now. 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125 Is It Dangerous?
"Hey everybody welcome to another episode of whom Bite. At her we are San Diego's out Q. Cast I am your host. Tony and I'm here with my other hoes bashing say hi bash and MS Marianne ts here. Putting on her face. She heard me Miss Mariam Mexican Eric here today for one and Mr Robbie is on sounds. Hey everybody I'm here to various how everybody doing today at this Saturday afternoon. How does that look like I'm doing? I know you've been putting on your face pretty fascinating this Mariam T- yeah. I overslept a little bit. And I just all the gigs in the world. Today wine after this and then I've got Bingo after that and then I got record promo videos for gossip girl after that. So what he saw growth out. I'm doing what I do. Best Getting Ready and also entertain. How is everybody doing in quarantine I want to get an update with you with all the boys? Because who's going crazy who's in. Who's one actually? Yeah how are you being in Corentin Badge update questioning my sanity having full-blown conversations with the dog about the Stock Market That's it in binding a Lotta terrible stock market. We'll talk to the dog about it. Perhaps yeah I'm asking his opinion. He's a DACHSHUND. He knows what he's doing. He just looks at you with those dead. Hooker is like what are you talking about? Yeah now I've honestly like I'm might be going a little bit skeptical but it's I think got Robbie. Rt We're going to kill each other at some point for sure for sure in the house though it's a it's a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing occurs. I would tell you that I would not able to get through this with another person. No I your your surprisingly doing way better than I thought you would be doing. In quarantine being a Libra you guys loves being social. But you're actually handling way better than I thought you were going more good at being social but I like being alone so this is like a dream. Come true really. I don't have any an I mean in this my friends and stop but I don't have any annoying strangers in fucking daily life like they used to exactly what about you Erick houses. Well wait a minute. You got a boyfriend coin out of everybody. Why am I not surprised that you? Yeah so I'm still dating um which makes things better actually settling into it really. Well like at first. It was really hard and like I think for me. I'm a capricorn so it's about my routine yellow once. They've settled into my routine now. I'm actually kind of okay with everything lake we it's lying you're kappa corn. You Your Birthday. What a capricorn is January ninth? You know why find this very interesting because our because Black Eric or other Eric. He's a Capricorn. Just like you and you guys are like very different. Yeah we're very astrology is not real jerry. Marry Him yes it is. It's real. How dare I defy the religion of the homosexual Mariam especially you should get back into your fortune teller outfit and shut up? We're not bringing shut up up now. I am not bringing now the back now. That was a fortune teller out fair. No you did. Appl- drag fortuneteller display one time. An equal from the audience during intermission would go over to him and it literally read them. I I had learned because it was a show Robbie and I did together and I got cast as the town fortune teller. Who's actually in the show? But the director was like okay. We're going to have a guy played. You're going to do it and you're doing it in full drag And it was the first time I had ever done drag and it was the longest run we did five shows a week. A five shows that week eight weeks and it took me two hours to get drag with an assistant for every show hate. It was like a it was like the Rupaul like reading challenge. You know every night I did it. I was the pre show entertainment. Then I went back. Stage did the show and then intermission I came back out and did it and then was back in the show before I had to learn how to read Tarot cards so what I did was actually give him a reading based on what they drew and then was very shady towards them at the same time all with Texas accent honestly. That sounds like my dream job. I know it will be like the perfect part for you is very get to wear like caftans and turbans in fact. That's what I did while eating snacks that I have attained programming Benjamin Veggie burgers. Cena's snags Mary. Emt Sue pontius shining. One plantation is no more. They have officially decided to close their chain soup plantation. No more I need a sip of my go. Go juice which means it's GonNa be the death of all buffets. I have felt from there. I think I'd like no more. We're going away. Which is I I. I've only eaten at sue. Plantation wants in the last year and the last time I went to sue plantation with with my ex and we both just cried the entire time. We were there so Why I think God don't don't make me Write a dissertation on my shortcomings relationship now. Now just kind of associate plantation with tuna salad in tears so I'm sad that they're closing better. I kinda was over them. And the older I get. The more buffets grossed me out because I realized people are just yicky Yak Yak. But I love these ensue plantation. I could afford to just have Su- plantation open for just me and my friends bitch. Just go so. This is a question. I posed to bashing Eric if there was a restaurant chain or just restaurant that decided to not exist anymore. Which one would you not want to see like what would really affect you where you would be down into dumps over in and out in and out we just had and now they're and I would like fall on the floor in some. I think a lot of people especially here in California would have a just ship that if in and out was like. We're done Nomar so busy. John I know and I don't eat it a lot but it's like my number one home. I did so for me to shake shack if shake shack were used to fly to other states to shake shack. Honestly I've never had shake shack. Good on their fried chicken may be one of the best way we it passes. And where's the closest shake shack to US Mission Valley Mission Valley off the freeway By hotel off the freeway. Okay take the freeway while you're not that new anymore. You've been here over here. He's you know better. Cut The shit speaking of Shit. You Guys Hollywood the new Ryan Murphy. Tv show came out on. Netflix knows how you know. Not Me but the critics were divided on this show so for people who don't know Ryan Murphy has a new show on Netflix. Cut Hollywood in in. It's all about the golden age of Hollywood and it has a lot of real life characters in it and I love this this show because it's a what if what if Hollywood was different back in the day and they did do all these social changes and they kind of give you a glimpse on what would actually happen and I know bash. She was the first one to watch it and then he told me to watch it and I literally benched in two days and you know Eric did you watch it. I'm halfway through it Mariam. Have you seen it at all now? Binge Watch and I. I know I haven't watched it and you're a Ryan Murphy. Fan Are you was for the first like three seasons of American horror story and everything since then like poses. Okay what I've seen of it. He gets a little too cheesy. She's like ampy cheesy. Like Oh God these people suck at acting cheesy and like the writing is so like it's like It's like A. It's like a tenth grader. With a really good vocabulary. Kinda road like it's just a little through and I don't I don't I don't like his bullshit where he's like. Oh we're going to start the fucking show but I haven't finished the ending of it. Yeah and then like the first four episodes of American horror story last like ten hours. Each episode of nothing can happen in the last four episodes. It's like a Goddamn soon nami and nothing makes sense. And there's a bunch of problem with grammar. Actually I would have to agree with this tweet at a bar on Sunday. Funday who's cracked out of their mind and like asking everybody for drugs and like keep forgetting that he's talking about well. He's not a twinkie. He said a twin. He's a twenty twenty. I love that. He's a long ashes to hunks. He's to twelve oaks accent. Okay Bash. She. What are your thoughts on Hollywood? Because I know you saw in just about some I will say is I know but what what was it. Departure for Ryan Murphy is that there actually was a plotline that was very well formed when three and that's why. I really liked it because it was super intricate. But you're absolutely right like there's a lot of A little bit of issue having like Race Relations Dude here white gay guy in La. I can't really like take too much poses really good. I thought I liked that. They brought in real characters like anime. Wong who is a real star back then and they gave her the story line of what she should have gotten is winning the Oscar for the film and all of that and the same with Queen Latifah's character Oh Haiti mcdaniel is. Who was the first black person to win an Oscar ever and she and she was played mammy in gone with the wind. That's right and so they had like real Hollywood ca and rock Hudson. The guy that played rock young Hudson. I thought that was called. He took these real characters and gave him a story line of what if they were accepting in Hollywood for being gay for being Asian American for being African American and being in the Hollywood system. I love that but kept me in this series was the amazing Patti. Lupone kept me through the whole. Yeah I lived for her. She's amazing so I do like that. They gain give like a happy ending. The people who should have gotten them. Yeah but circumstances didn't allow that but was archie character. Real no no. Whose was that. I was surprised on. What's the guy's name that was in it from Big Bang theory? Oh Yeah Rock. Hudson's real manager. Yeah Jin Eight Henry. What was his real name? Henry Let me look it up Henry Wilson. He's a real character. He was a real life person so I thought that was and he was amazing in that show he was so good Jim Parsons Crazy. I have a question for you guys. Yeah I read this article that was like Hollywood goes back and rewrites history as a revisionist show so some of it is based on true stuff. Some of it is made up and like how dangerous that is lake. Teach people that what. Actually it was didn't happen because they they made Hollywood a better place than what it was ending. Do you guys think that's like dangerous. Because that's what the articles talking about. Oh I thought it was a good way of showing Hollywood. This is what you should have done really putting it out there like. Yeah you guys could have. You could have changed the world in a way if you would have done it this way. That maybe they had produced the real the way things would have actually happened versus the light-hearted like better version. Yeah it would have. Yeah because I think it was a little too candy coated. I would've loved to seen the seedier side put into but visually. The show is stunning. That wigs the costumes. The fat everything in the show had such an old Hollywood field that I that's what I love. I love that aspect too but for me it was Patti lupone Patti. Lupone kill bit. I haven't note sure I am so tired of the people using the word dangerous. All the time has become the new thing like. Would you like dangerous? Like people need to fuck pick up a dictionary and bigger out with these words. Be Example of how people are in use. There was an entire fucking article written and published about. How Crystal Methods drag name is dangerous? Now I need to take some responsibility for themselves. Get off the fucking cross because we need would calm the fuck down and stop thinking. Everything is dangerous like it was an artistic expression of what she wanted. What he wanted to do in this film dangerous. Now have a fucking computer in your hand. Go research what it was really like. What's dangerous is that? You are an idiot. I will say that I would have agreed. Adapt before all of this happened. Miriam having been through quarantine and seeing all the crazy ass. Shit people believe in post on social media. There are a lot dumber and a lot more Subjective to the messaging they received than I thought ever possible. Yup US one fucking youtube conspiracy comes out and the whole goddamn country believes it anyway now rounded people and it right and you I feel like bashing. I have swapped places. I'm like I know is the one who's like. I hate everything but yeah I still absolutely hate everything. It's just a lot worse than I could medicated. Is that why you're in a good mood today? What's going on? Yeah scaring me. I'm not used to this ban. Emi perilous seeing my dog for lying nineteen right but for people who are listening and watching. What did you guys think of Hollywood if you saw leave it in the comments? I'm really curious what people thought if they liked it or not. The critics were on the fence with that. Some people are really hated in some of them. Loved it so I'm curious what our audience thinks of the film? But this other article came out by rolling stone that we were talking about this new trend. Kerr Corona virus parties. Have you guys heard about this? Happened in New York. The owner as the coronas still there is this trend going on right now where people are throwing corona virus parties where they are trying to purposely get infected with corona virus where it's negative people parting with positive people and it's becoming a thing thoughts feelings. Do you guys think about this new trend. That's happening not surprised. I'm not either. I'm like People Are Idiots. Most of them. Yeah all right. I'M NOT SAYING PEOPLE DESERVE TO DIE. Je but I think it's careless because you're taking. Yeah Okay I want to get it. That's fine but if you get a how many more people are you going to spread it till I just think that some people shouldn't live and you're wondering where and you're wondering where Megan win dead getting to see the super secret part of my makeup where I put on ten different kinds of blush here knows. I'm trying something new that I haven't been carving it out. I'm like good kind of it's kind of I don't know what I'm doing Santa Claus little boy you know I do I do I really bless no now I'm changing it and doing like an even more blessed now closer. It looks a lot better though. Does it look like you're a heavy drinker right now. Let's get drunk. I'm I got my coffee though. What are you guys drinking? What are you drinking Eric? Util pure espresso alcohol today. Why would happen? Drinking box would have to the doll. What happened? I don't think I need to my mind is. I'm drunk all the time because it's deteriorating. What's left amid you? Maybe that's why you're so nice today. I know part of the brain that usually the part that's left the nine hundred and the response to people angrily has just Atrophy because there no people around what about you Erick Woods in that Muggy Yours Avenue Eric? Cocktail and then also having a coffee alternating between the two have my bloody Mary. GotTa love the exact same thing as last week. Yeah I like my outdoors with my downers but yes this corona party shit. I'm not for it. I don't like I think it's dumb but also to it leads into a topic that I was. GonNa ask you guys about because I think we both we couple of US have experienced. It is now that social media is like all the norm. Everybody's on it and people are bored. Because they're at home there. Is this thing of social media shaming over social distancing. Have you guys seen this? Like people were going crazy about like people not wearing masks not sane six feet apart all of that. Have you guys seen that out here in San Diego as far as like when you go out for your runs and all of that kind of stuff? Confers admit I I'm going to be honest? I don't wear masks when I run. That's weird and well anybody aloe and I actively avoid people. I ran away from you. Run the other way helps. It helps my exercise in just. I'm running around scared of everyone but every other time I I wear I wear hovering. Okay have you seen anybody get shamed for not following the social distancing wearing a mask and all of that kind of stuff. I've shamed people especially when it started because they were standing too close to me in line and it was these like these like really young Gen Y. People THAT LAKE. We would not get off my fucking back and I'm like get away from me like you've probably one of the people on your back turn back ally so how about you bash. Okay it's it's been unceasing army of dumb. Every time I go out and like now. There's some people that I see. That are doing really well. And I'M NOT GONNA. Shame anybody for not wearing a mask as long as you're keeping up like six feet of social distancing whatever. I don't expect somebody to go out in the park and where that's the whole time. I have one guy run within six inches of me without a mass. That was just yesterday. And then there's people that just like that's a walkway like why do you need to sit there? I know lick in the shade. Like fucking really. Do not wearing a mask not even owns a mass just out there and then just sitting right in the path where everybody walks like Darwinism real. Nothing threw out. Well there's people who don't think the corona virus Israel so I mean I had it. I'm here to tell you it's real real. He had it to be close to drag numbered for. I have to do just like a normal number. GotTa Be Real Sarah. Lind ORDERS WATCHING. Evelyn rose at your tea parties barely knowing the lyrics and like she's always a beat behind. I I do too. You cannot convince that. That's not a beat behind. Not Roy we're right in front of you. I was in the camera. Everybody's camera girl of you not knowing leash. She has like talent tobacco her not knowing the words Mitch. A lot of just doesn't do anything a friend of the show. We haven't had her on a while she to fill in for. Mario under new city ordinances. No farm animals allowed this enough. Oh my God. That's funny but did you guys see this other article that came out. I don't know how true it is but the to the twenty twenty quarter that is for this year had come out on the beginning of the year. And you know how on the back they They have some kind of symbol of some part of the US so this time they were focusing on the Pacific northwest and they had the Simone Fruit Bat is on the back of the twenty twenty Carter and there is this article was saying how fitting it is seen that where this is the corona virus. So it's a little creepy and disturbing. I think if you look at the coin it's like full on a picture of a Mama Bat. An babysat your mom. Back at kindy impact took forever but it is kind of a good representation of this year. If you think about it well actually. Oh man right if you WANNA get enraged about a coin. Yeah did you guys hear that? The White House gift shop is selling commemorative quarter of the virus coins. Oh shut up no other. How Hand Gun on Twenty Five Ninety Nine Commemorative Corona virus with all the names of the Akron averis taskforce including Donald Trump? No no no no. No no you think things. I don't know if I'm GONNA be here anymore. Italy AFTER THE MATCH LION. I grow weary of this world but like I just don't like the zero collectivism in America. Like nobody gives a fuck about each other. Well it's like we were talking earlier like America from day one. Everybody here has always been me me me me. Everybody's always Mimi Mimi. And we feel it now that were on quarantine in with what's happening in the White House. It's like nobody gives a shit about anybody else. Yeah that's fine. I don't think I want be a part of that. Yeah I don't blame anymore. You know what I mean. I'm like I'm not having fun anymore. I'm ready it's like well. Lee Jones says like see what the twenty year olds are doing and if they're raving and having everything's fine but she's like this. Oh that reminds because we were talking about Ryan Murphy Show Hollywood's Araya Murphy posted on social media that he is currently writing a script for Leslie Jordan and Dylan McDermott win to be in a film or a series together and he put a question out to his followers saying. Do you want to see it as a buddy film a Romantic film a horror? What would you wanNA see these two in? But he is writing a script he said for those two actors to be in a project together and he said he definitely wants Leslie Jordan to be A re a fabulous rich old. I love that I love it. He has finally gotten some Internet fame. That you really deserves it. Fashion go ahead luckily Jordan financial e to these before. But now I'm just APODACA notoriety but is Leslie Jordan. And who else Dylan McDermott the one. That's in Hollywood. Played The gas guy. I think he's an issue as fuck prentice hearing is actually Leslie Jordan and Leslie Jones. See now that very interesting ederer. Math DOT com. Isn't it romantic or like I would like to see them. Like do a Dowman Louise type of film together. Show just to yeah. It's twins like a remake of twins. Arnold Schwarzenegger Danny Devito. There you go. That's why nobody thought of putting the Leslie's together Dow is hilarious. Is it happening? Just we call them who who invited her? We're the first ones to say it. You guys look sturdy. Change Dot Org after this let us know in the comments if YOU LIGHT DOT COM. Lesley's to show together or a movie together. That would be amazing which brings me to another topic. Net flicks is releasing a show called cursed. Which is a cross between? Game of thrones and Came at thrones and hunger games and getting a lot of buzz and it's coming out this summer so I pose this question to you guys if you had to pick two. Tv shows do a crossover. What would they be the golden girls and the walking dead take Matt Golden Girls and Buffy the vampire slayer how would that go down? Miss Mariam T- though a Rose is buffy. So the she's the she's the slayer but she's really dumb and then Who'S GOING TO BE ARTHUR RO Blanche the sled is going to be the witch we can see it so she just spells all the men into loving her and then Sofia. Sofia is the one who trains row. She's the watch and she's like and then Dorothy. Dorothy WOULD BE. Who Door like the bad ass? She's like the the head Honcho. What about you bashing what? Tv shows? Did you want to see? Crossover I'd say queers folk and Power Rangers Babble. On Do. They caught for that. They do everything using et porn. Did you guys know that no? Yeah no dairy. I saw. That's based off of area. Fifty one where it is a gay porn where was set. This kid is dressed up as alien like the grey alien on a medical table and he just gets railed by like a guy all in like and they and they just post the questions. Would you fuck Canadian? Yeah absolutely is where. Don't ask me how I know that about you. Lacrosse variety shows. I would want like the nanny. Crossover with like an action. Phil Blake I don't know twenty one hours. Or what was that show with comedy? That would be hilarious. I want I want like an old. Tv show like the Heidari move. Genie mixed with like walking dead or something like that. That's what I would wanNA see combined. Also I'm just GONNA throw on top of that the real housewives of TV land. You just have like Mrs Brady. Genie B witched and it's all the wives get together for cocktails the look at my mansion. It must be living in that tiny bottle it must be hard. Livings takes care yeah. I love that that would be so much fun. That's a good idea and you guys. You're listening our audience. Put in the comments what you think. Tv Crossover shows you guys would wanna see. I think that's interesting. I'm excited for the Kerr show on net flicks. We need new. Like game of thrones. We were religious about it when it came out we had deemed parties in everything. Yeah ever seen that. Why don't it's too much of a commitment for me and it doesn't end well. No that was the one that heard about how you waste like eleven years. Eleven years it is ended makes me think gweat shows as kids. Were you guys obsessed with like that really? Had An impact on you as a child aged kids. I'm Tom. Let's talk between the age of nine to like thirteen dot right wider out saved by the bell for you. Eric. I think I know Mariam's Calder pee. Wee's playhouse I started watching buffy when I was like ten. Oh you did. I was yeah. I was in grade when I started watching. Buffy and Oh you know what was really impactful on me when I was a kid. Grassy the next generation RV. They had like they had the girl who cut herself a school shooting. There was. I'm gay everything and it just helps you go through the emotions of being a child. They don't like drake because drake was on that show. He was like yes. Drake was on degrassi enough to not a gangster. He was from Canada. And like I don't believe it. No what about you bash? She which ones were you. Obsessed with as a kid said a mix of Alex Mack. All that yeah letting nickelodeon teen shows and then probably Pokemon came on I was. This is an essay a lot about me. I was a obsessed with designing women. I dreamed learn. Who loved that? I loved all of those older. Tv shows I was obsessed with when it first came out in the nineties. He's in high school though Doria. I was obsessed John. La La always been obsessed with the simpsons What other TV shows there was a small wonders. It's family tides growing pains. All of those eighty ones are Charleston. Charge all of those. I was obsessed with. Yeah which other one was the real world. Oh yes remember the AGO yes season. Yeah yeah the girl was afraid of boats and they put it right on the they had another girl Frankie who was a cutter and about it. Yeah and I remember her. Intro is at Balboa Park shoes waiting in front of the botanical gardens. And I'm like that's right near my house. Yeah yeah also my so called life. That was another Jordan. Lana Jones. Yeah it was in love with Jordan. Cadillac Alano what did you guys. WanNa be when you grew up when you were little more? I'll go first by A. my parents. Were very disappointed in me because and I don't remember why but I told them that I wanted to be a taxi cab driver when I grew up and they were like that is random why attacks a cabdriver out of everything why that. I HAVE NO IDEA. I love that Jerry for you. Yeah Yeah because I'd get to meet people I don't know. Were you a sheltered child? Did you not have any friends that were real? I was a shelter child. They did have real friends and imaginary France to did. You really have an imaginary friend. What was his name or her name. I didn't really have a name but I used to talk to him. Yeah it was a guy. Yeah of course. Of course it was. Why did you? I went bash. She did you have an imaginary friend growing up hurting second conversation with your men's like I had one. His name is manny. Anyway she did. You WanNa grow up and be what we're what did you want to be when you grew up. I wanted to add million. I wanted to dig up bones because Jurassic Park. Yeah Yeah I'm not surprised and then I lived at reality. In mayor early twenties you went and dug up. I don't know why am I asking Nasty Bitch? What about you? Miss Mary D- I wanted to be a teacher and then I wanted to own like theater and then Yeah that's mostly what I wanted to do when I was a kid. I really wanted to be a teacher and then in college before I dropped out and became a stand up comedian and all that Shit. I was going to school to be a hostile administrator. My big goal was to be a hospital. Ceo I was like what only in America only in America. I'm Marty. I wanted to run a hospital a hospital all and now you're doing dry. I don't understand the path Dr. Yeah that's all that's called listening to your parents and not trusting your gut. I wanted to be an artist. I've always like I was obsessed with comic books as a kid and I was like. I'm going to be an artist and live on the beach. Just draw and paint all day long. That didn't happen because I definitely didn't expect to be a drag queen for a living ever the plan but no regrets. Okay no regrets pretty good now. Yeah Yeah it's okay. Well what's GONNA BE? What am I wearing? What hair you have on today. One of my pink ones it up me and big hair makes the new hair been licensed. Just a Bob just your Bob. I really like Short Carol. Bob Did you guys see this video. That was circulating on social media about this doctor who is yelling at a patient. It was all over because he told her to get the fuck out. Let me get I so I saw this in. My first reaction was like. Wow that's like really ballsy for the doctor but then I read the article and I found out some back story on it so I don't know if I if you guys want the back story I or if you want to watch you listen to the video and then decide how you feel about it. Yeah Gimme the bear back story on so this. This patient was throwing a fit eric. Where'd you go your cameras up This patient was throwing a fit about Not being seen and all this stuff in the wait time in the hospital so from the article I read. She actually was raiding. The staff at the doctor's office and Threatened violence. She was getting violent. So at this point where the video takes place. The daughter of the patient filmed the doctor who came out to talk to her And she that's the part you see in the video and I was here. I'm GONNA play it and see if you guys can hear it. It plays But to me here can you hear these themes in his highly manner? How many people at seven night there? I made an appointment at six thirty because I knew that these of my vars our five minutes. We've Oregon on you. We've done a urine test on you. I don't know you you came in and said I'm GonNa Check your appeal on. That takes brief seconds. I don't know how long I want to go home and get the hell out. Did you money later? Really really cares spot. You're waiting for three hours. Go to the ER and wait for nine. Oh you can get out of my office will now mama got it on video so it doesn't matter but this brought up a thought for me of what would you. What's the worst thing you guys have said to a customer or as a customer A customer or to a customer and I just sent you the link to the video so watch it because I want to get your thoughts on it but go ahead. Somebody's start. GimMe Gimme your story. One time I was bartending and this lady was just like like she literally just sat down and was just rotted to me. I'm guessing she was a big time homophobic really and then like she threw all this fit about like she was just just being a kind like just straight up asking county questions. She rolled her eyes when I needed her. Id and I was like you know what I was like. You must be so exhausted from rolling your eyes. I was like all that I'm GONNA go make other people's drinks while you adjust your attitude. Okay I'll say shit. I don't know how I got fired. I through change at somebody in a parking lot like somebody left me. Like eighty five cents like Ruda unlike a seventy dollars bill and they went to go get into their car and I went out to our audio at the restaurant and I had a handful of change and I threw it at their car to go. You forgot your change. Oh man what about you bash? Have you ever said anything? What's the worst thing you said to a customer or a customer? I have different service experience. I couldn't talk back to customers for reasons. I won't get ahead to do with like a family business so I never got that ability but as a customer when I see people being Dixie to people that are just trying to help them out. I will say something for saying. There is a starbucks that was backed up before everything and This woman was just going on total tear at at this person. I think like their system fell down and chooses this ratings. Were grown as like. Hey you're being total asshole right now like you should talk show about your copy. There's more important things in the world and she just looked at me and was like okay and I'm like extra green with me. I'm glad you were able to reach that attitude just for soccer. Usually when you call people out they welcomed now. Yeah really like you second making the whole of yourself. Let's try to renew an end. You know what about you Erick? So I I worked retail in my twenties and I worked for. I worked at Banana Republic for a very long time and while in college and I was a manager and this woman was like screaming at me because She had her three cashmere sweaters. I would not take back with cash back and didn't ever received or whatever and so She finally like starts like screaming at me that like. She has three kids at home. Who are unable to. Because I won't return her thing. Listen I look at her. And she's like in her sixties and I'm like I was like Ma'am you may in my head like first of all. How the Hell Hell Fuck? Does she have kids? Like no way biologically as as possible number two and then which I said out loud. I was like if you have kids. That can't eat. You shouldn't probably be buying Kashmir in the first star. And so yeah I did. And she like flipped out on me more and I said there's nothing I can do. And so she went off to the side then another woman came up to me and complained to her about me and then she complained about a like having a dog and I was like well. If if you don't like it you can like tell her but I can't tell anything about like not having a dog in a in a place so then they start fighting with each other and I just sat back and just watch them fight and I was like great. I love it. I'm so tired of people bitching about their lives to kids. Like I'm sorry. That was your decision. You didn't have to have kids but I don't fucking comprising I'm not GONNA be your sympathizer goes up getting worse. Look people think that having kids gives them a free pass also notice In the work place and non ocular opinion with people but they people in the workplace user. Kids get a lot of time off or like I gotTa do this as a gay man. I don't have children and know some gay men do but I don't and I don't have the luxury of using that to get some time off and I know that's not a popular opinion. It's like but I've seen people take advantage of that. That's what I'm saying. The people who take advantage of that in the work. No my thing is like go ahead. Yeah if your kids you should get more time but I just WANNA be treated equal exactly and like if if if my kids are name Tequila Vodka. Nobody should judge me for it. That people put too much stock in a like having kids is like you're benefiting so much to say it's like what about me like not increasing pollution in Harvard for having like I should get a medal to very millennial I'm me I'm at all like a duty or responsibility or the you are like some amazing Iraq person. I'm just like no somebody just in you and you made a baby. That's how it works. Is that how it happened? I thought his start came in dropped off the base. Like I just doesn't mean you're a champion of the fucking people exactly like. I think everybody should just be ordered some dignity and respect and not be treated differently over their life. Choices comes to stuff. That doesn't hurt other people like I don't know it's just annoying. Yeah I have a customer story. That happened when I was eighteen or nineteen. I used to work at this. This photo studio in San Diego that did all of the senior Fota for all the skulls and the front part of the company was all window all window right and I had this bitch of a girl come in who is getting her senior pictures. She had the worst attitude. She was rude as fuck. She was just nasty nasty nasty and she had come up to the desk. Asked me something very rude about it? She turned around and walked away and when she walked away. I was like Ma. Making as she walked rolling my eyes and being like Oh this Kant and then shit like five minutes later. This older woman comes in and she's like I was like I. It was her mom. She's like I've been sitting on my car and I saw the faces you made and I didn't appreciate it and I remember rates alternate said. Well she learned it from somebody and it was obviously used so I will give you the same basis that I gave your daughter and they did it right towards and then he got fired because the manager was like I was like now. I know this isn't going to be for me now. I'm done. Thank you for that. I fully support that. I was like when you're rude. I like especially when somebody's being nice to you and trying and then you're just flat out root for no reason that drives me crazy. That drives me up. I'm so it's like the customer is always Ri- and Blah Blah. They're not always got shit. Eric you Meyer met for so many people did Eric drop-off do we lose him? I'm here beyond from beyond. See you guys. You know what it's time for. We haven't done this in a while so I'm excited for this. It is time for click the week I so for people who don't know. Click of the week. Is We have a segment where we go through what we are Szeswith with. It can be a film it could be. Tv Show An instagram account book. Ask just something. We're obsessed with that. We want you guys to go follow them. Go check it out because we're obsessed with it. So who has a click of the week? I anybody anybody. Go ahead bash. She what's yours. The Hillcrest San Diego. Instagram account. Oh absolutely a full-fledged curve account and I love it so they're they in they put a lot of light on the hillcrest community here in San Diego which I love that they just promote everything. That's going on But it's just fun. They put stuff out. That just gives you a good chuckle during the day and I love that I love that. What is what is the instagram account. Again bashing give people so they can go. Follow Hillcrest word. There you go. What about you eric? Do you have a click? This week. I do I have one that I just. It just makes me happy and kind of go every time I see it and it's dogs doing drag one. I Love Dogs. You don't take out like that. Come on their title says. Do you have the chops to America's first drag dog superstar south? I love that is so good. It is what gave it instagram. Loud Mariam T. Whitsett your click this week okay. Since we were talking about Zodiacs and steps cute little Zodiac instagram account that I follow and I just find their Zodiac steph aesthetically pleasing. Because it's like all on different cartoon characters and Shit and it's called Glossy Underscores Zodiac. And sometimes they'd be reading me for fills so no. I mean like like they'll call out the signs for their bullshit and you're like oh wow that's that's nail on the head yeah the Glossy Glossy Zodiac. So this she like. I'm assuming it's a girl who makes the account or some like raging homosexual. But they just make it so I love it some have to you this week. I have. I'm going to give a shoutout to the HASHTAG now. Trending up. Who which we're on and you guys could livestream as on there and on never now trending APP. There's another show that you can watch. They're called on the rocks with Alexander who in a couple of weeks. He's going to be coming on our show to hang out with US and get into all of the pop culture celebrity gossip and he's interviewed like Margaret. Show a bunch of people. That's going to be a really fun episode coming up and you can watch his show on the rocks on the now. Trending up where you can watch us. Do you have one. Robbie I one Robin I'm GonNa give you my second click. I also wanted to give a couple of shout outs to people that joined us on facebook. Youtube live so shout out to Joe via next year. Kasahda Ford cowgirl sixty nine way. Yeah and Charlie. Thanks for joining us. Live on Youtube so okay. So many other my next click is GonNa be this instagram account from this amazing artists. Ta Ta Tommy Taylor. Illustrator is what his instagram is and he does Versions of Disney characters. Here let me see if you guys can see interested. Yeah he did like Ariel and he does the princess. Okay Prince Eric. As a daddy is hot yes and he does like. It's so good you guys gotta go follow him. It is account. Let me pull up again Taylor illustrators. Yeah Tommy No. Tom Taylor Tom Taylor. Yeah why yeah. Tom Taylor illustrator or in his. Name's Tommy Taylor. Is the artist name. But this reminded me of last week's how we were talking about Hercules for those people who didn't listen to our last episode but Look Bash. Eric told me that yeah been. Isn't that cool watch Hercules? I haven't yet no. Let's watch it tonight. You didn't watch Eric. But yes go. Follow Tommy Taylor and speaking of Tom Of Finland was. Isn't it the one Hundredth Birthday Bash movie documentary? That was on Hulu about Thomas. Finland was amazing. I think we briefly covered it. But Oh no we did it as a click when week. Oh yeah it is a Tom of Finland movie. I think on Amazon prime. It's really good. It's so good little. She's I wanted to God. Yes you guys. Those are clicks of the week. I know right ever lashes on live and this is I'm I'm I actually like doing your face on the show during the show. 'cause we get involved beginning. Yeah I like it. I like watching you. It and he keeps quiet for half of the time which is Nice Kitty. Listen here buddy. Miss Mariam T. I know I think he should do drag the whole time next time. Yeah that was actually an interesting process to watch now mindlessly describing what you're doing exactly exactly and if anybody out there has a click or something you're obsessed with leave it in the comments below because we would love to hear about it chat about it on the show and all of that that's about it champ. Yeah but you guys. That is our show this week. That was a fun one. So how do people finding Mariam t give him the rundown of your busy busy schedule today that you have now while trying to do a last? I you can join me later this afternoon for live wine club you got about an hour left to pick up your wind from inside out if you WANNA be wine club You can also join me at BINGO QUEENS DOT COM at four. Pm and I will be doing live Bingo cards or five dollars a pdf so come help me make money. Are you doing the most beat? The mug beat with glitz speak. Down is every Friday or every Sunday at five PM. This Sunday. That's on the urban most facebook page. This Sunday we are doing horror movie icon. Oh feeling I'm doing tiffany from bride of Jenna. Who Played Her in the movie Jennifer Tilly Jennifer Tilly. Who I absolutely Jennifer Tilly yet Abacha how do people do instant and all the social similar name underscored Bash That there you go and Eric Mexican era gotta be behind you. You can find me on Instagram at maxine. Tarik and Robbie. How do you even posted anything? No of which is why. Nobody's you can follow me on Instagram at our Y. C. Oh and still waiting anticipation there. You go you to the PODCASTS. At invited her underscore podcasts on instagram. We are invited or SSD on facebook. Facebook and twitter. We love hearing from everybody so send us an email at the gang at who invited her dot net you can follow me at Twenty Hundred Square Bologna Underscore. Macaroni good our website. Who invited her dot net? We have merchandise on there and a bunch of fun stuff. I'm and this week the band pick the song that I am obsessed with right now and that everybody needs to go on spotify and look it is from Tom Goes and it's dancing in my room. Which is very fitting Mariam. Your face came out really pretty. Yeah are we throw the final wigand than we can eglesias with a win the WIG and all this chest hair? Yeah I WANNA see it with a wig growing but yes. That's this song. I have been obsessed with it just like fitting for her and right now. So that's what we're going to leave you with a well. Mariam puts on puts on a wig. I'm curious to see what she pulls out. Wonder if it's going to be one of the neon wins or her past told you which actually Oh bob and ash I want Ashley to come back and do a whole album releasing only service do it coming. Hurry up let's see. Let's see what you got longer. One Man Oh man oh look at you. Look at you girl bids. Thank you guys for watching. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back next week dolans lying.
Episode 13 - Live Draft Baby!
"Ah i was picking the white adrian peterson thanks for many of them and you should drink tickets at seven nine. Save those for me in your bridge live draft to bring you down with. I saw i mean i would take emails shit. Usually i was gonna walk out doing in this episode fourteen fourteen where you're putting yourself yeah. I'm recording audio doable i._p._o. Studio remember last year not gonna do the national following a buying all this do this. I have my headphones then you just have after like twenty bucks a month the host of the podcast the website came under the domain got like this wire-to-wire cash over my say it's automatically. You didn't like uh-huh anybody anything i got. I got turned out to vote boat-necked. Anybody who was all right. I got another one none of take out the kicker and extra flex wchs. Here's our pussies. You ain't changed teams visit last year. Last year has the big one in five minutes. I didn't even drink. I'm working do the top six eight of division. One visit no solid why insatiable who wants to do grappler draft year every year again regime before six whatever did who wants to do one big division no individuals and just do top six players. You wolf often that one out take place after the left because rookies free plus that stuff. That's talking this year. If your they usually usually please alexis de nobody plays in sports broadcasts. Its the big guy scott for are already fighting about rules. We got one guy who couldn't come waiting on number nine and then we'll see where narrative listen they're. They're fighting about going forward as far as actually the date of the draft versus. This is the preseason game there. What are we on now. Just because i in this antiquated deserve thirty women in south africa autocad i got majority cast is going to want to grind. What are you guys watching because everybody played volleyball his yes changed this mural. You can't take somebody audie. Who's just drought none of that stuff. What are you might as well just not good. I say he uh at c._j. Rocky first okay so the first round by knocking up right with one another to get an and overall the locker when not ones are so i wanted to is based on what you still a drought so they will do a playoff holding some will you gentlemen does not raise your world roman homeless. I think you need investigation to learn on their own and this is my rule. Aw off at my rule thing is going to be with if not everyone votes on it. It doesn't get approve. You know one time we'll be through and no one saw folks are debbie that means anything. We voted the only listened towards collusion's so you should make a metaphor. That's i went to vote vote. You know everyone that's the problem. Everyone's probably the figures that everybody takes only one or two zero anyway. I'm taking it serious this year question. Uh let's say trade goes through meeting of meteorite avoid creek 'cause we were pushing through other people four four foot down what notre trey by more than i would say the reasonable free to yeah no okay. That's fine line hanging vote for roy award. Turn over that's fine. That's a lot of pressure on rule of all. You're the arteries so he takes me maple those busting balls about nine o'clock and i know you're not the really honestly i think why don't we just house. We should katie green in detroit by chartered. A guy brought mr. Does anyone knows it was you as we're gonna be doing wunderlich tessa the three minute <hes> twelve questions where we got the highest score gets to decide what traffic so and so forth stop laughing at me italian ship it also. Can we solve again me kicked off. It actually watches the youtube downloads on the auditory reading because i i don't i don't know the scope of your surrey and he only wants yardage. The the only thing is i love c._b._s. Has the capability to defensive team and individuals sport about thank the scoring and p._d. Cole has accused dong. They come on back. Take time to get the restaurant. Uh stats. It's a ooh did happen last year that they get a touchdown when he threw it to wit. Getting the returners seems returned. No mike once why wouldn't currently get it now only older. That's they're. You're bringing out more than a few useful for action happens. If we need anything else. They added monster. Listen everybody. I like digs issue in this wonderful aw luck sucks. Let's go diamond here. I'll fly over before doctor but he hasn't played so lot with. Would you still wearing a pete. Wrestling <unk> hugh sore dot com are we can take. It doesn't nor yet as it yes. It's three minutes. He really one question is the express yes. He said zam lice a the test was bundle home in football. I say who could eat the most wings three minutes. This is a bad idea. And how many pretzel roles could you eat. Three months got the six minute evening. Have you taken these before we go so i someone that's less choice and you confident with all the same the question a off aw picking on lobster. I didn't have enough days then. It'd be hung over go. We have the website walk aw aw l. Let me know because we're doing the six minutes days rico six it when we started talking. I started whenever i go to football. Mike you score dot com to donald ford love. My cousins are so raise we're doing. My dad is last year picks on a really doesn't want to saying he's gonna wait one six t water. I think he's banking on some art guy with the dread. Everybody's a few you're right. I'm in ninety four like practice players. People can claim him like it's a legit thing. I thought it was pretty cool. That's why i made. I gotta thanks for coming leaves. He said it's like it's like nine. Rounds of rookies clones top one of your fool. It's it's a should look to be able to be legitimate. Concern me in that. It can do that and do what alex bacteria pot randomly. They needed runs back. Just took jazz gets the point and specialty anybody can text billing or are we just going to say did you really it was joking at the regional. Nope you texted in the group chat that. Everyone's got their seven thirty seven thirty but he's getting nine eight one in another. That's what i thought no rush. Thank you from texas lies in driving so what was his name. It was the name of this website wunderlich stuff. One does sex greek on the related questions will know general knowledge allow neth really at no no. I'm not i'm fried today against you probably much worn on their pete. I don't care what point fuckin- not i wasn't with very gold individual fumble recovery touchdown touchdown yesterday. No individual kick return t._v. Yes individual return tedious. What about individual individual fumble recovery yes so if golden down the broken down by putting and vice power turned novo recovery. No there is does anyone his jerry's me. He's lot of sh. I'm taking the two players it all points individually. It's for games special teams scoring but he's definitely the question. It's already agreed upon you're asking is that engineer near individual points if you if they fumbled picking back or defensive offense and the guy who picked up offense back yes. I want that if my team today sit back and say what really she's. I have to be so goddamn difficult road. That's added. We're good save and continue. Can you shut your mouth and take your wonder six. What's posttrading jumping right but we need to. We need a whole system on that. You can say whatever you want aw trip well. We really have to wonder six questions. What's the website use shore. There's nothing to do with football tonight. Q. test football football what i in the field verify your scores to people don't fucking cheat. I serve chris yup. That's why markets went flop on flip flops on. Maybe along glen voiced goals the lowest drink to combat go ahead. Go on you know on your show. This is your idea jesus. Fucking christ really unscramble the words come on uh-huh crispy diarrhea pooping albouy spell check. I got thirty two. I'm smart as matt ryan. Thank you never wanna championship. God still has a degree from v._c._u. God g. it showed up in curry's retarded. Oh that's looking derek yeah fresno state a literally do that's part of it really counted from forty-six rohr's leapt how many questions let's say twenty five questions but it depends on how much shopping right now just help you out of fifty. What your score said your mario manningham sort of three others test talk be drunk already holy shit thank you. Let's say a little bit early. Two thousand cast and i candy bar for one fifty and a beverage for two thirty aren't you. You're probably got him brian waddell long throw. It's a it's a guy p._b. Junior y what if people had tied sports scaffolds scott has their timer that tells you how long visceral for me it's it definitely we hold bill de with anytime wrongs it. It doesn't tell you it doesn't tell you sort of moves to yeah. I got thirty two. I think i got more rico got afford i got i got a forty when i first took it where he goes like which wunderlich so. I just sent them one i did. I was like oh shit yeah forty <hes> pity your paul game this week so you know you're paulo games week twice. I mean thank you six monthly a six month lease doc you have to go to football i._q. Score stupid take the it was infractions goddamn. It's weird football nick twenty we calculate it was just give me your calculator. Eighteen anyways probably mm smarter that he lays. It doesn't say much alabama. You guys are fucking retarded fresno state. It is giving these question that late but he says not the last ask how do i ah twenty out of fifty got fired five to look the ones getting questions starts decoded you out of fifty this morning. It's twenty four who've regatta degree of them sixteen <music> sweet. Oh boy in eighteen your work on time in writing bark. What'd you get shaw. Just take it again. You know in the one. I'd send you the same questions we'll wunderlich test baby congratulations to you as well as i was a high fifty seven twenty five don't not one point now goes on how many questions you got right and the time yeah i think everybody with rochambeau three he'll he'll this answer is not submitted because the time right now i got to have a fifty in two months before me and twenty and then everyone else eighteen tame he didn't even start re goes download it to break up the ties rochambeau rochambeau one-two-three one-two-three everybody. We're doing a a five dollar takes. Push the draft back then. I guess i would just going to be as many ways as you get into uncomfortable with all ed rebel jealous chromos diet the bachelor party four hundred fifty pound black case. How jealous are you right now. Gino's buddies copied star. Talk the song mhm as you got you wonder pickering outdoors. I have to say blue. Star arrange field problems upbringing talk about tomorrow second round venus because there's a lot of shit. I've got my fucking god told me oh yeah you get where you looking so yogurt dot. I should say we get to protect the merge. Call back. Tomorrow saw saw especially since you know. These guys are going to drink anyway. He's he's got a stroke yeah. They gotta strip focused. We're using it as a fucking. You hate to leftovers. Oh we got a timer to all people but as i'm keeping it was a burke teller guys excellent brother. Thank you short short premium drink ticket brassing something more safety pregnant buffalo wild wings ordinarily ask all right so who's number one scott. We'll pick you up. We'll take the number to you now. You got to remember 'cause there's also divisions to know all the shit we voted. Oh yeah so if your way make the playoffs people actually get bigger. I the kicking. I ask sean. So what are they doing going to be one three five listen this. This is what we changed. This is what we the only thing we changed was divisions from here on out for every drive. There's going to be odds and evens ever gonna change. Individuals get credit for a punt returns. Kick returns and fumble recoveries will also like o b j goes back to get a front and runs in for a touchdown. You will get points if he's your instead of just being on special teams down. No it would just just it's just the yards okay. Another thing is playoffs. Else are going to be frozen in the second week not the first week ooh and no trade no traits do probably the rosters will will be open the whole thing well. We definitely win. Nobody vote knowing it has to be frozen the whole frozen second week or unlocks and free for a it was opened. It's unfrozen for everyone but i wanted to vote on trains trains for the second was frozen second week no traits that's ripe only after that part dingo no trade center playoffs. It's open all drops. That's fun. I thought we were doing first week. The other thing about losing insurance the draft pass no traits grocer. I got nowhere chip and something if i know that you're in the toilet bowl and drop david johnson for bobby to pick up. You know what i mean like yeah and you know we're just explained to the guy the new rules we voted along without him. You got got got fourteen minutes commission four. It doesn't go through majority more it tomorrow. We'll we're gonna pay. Outs are thousand first blace for seventy percent of androids. Five hundred second place third senate drops third place two hundred hundred brackets still everything else the same miss nathan eh p._r. Within two seconds normally talk you wall. It was cute him. Bring it up. We were killed. It was cute and dressed in fourteen minutes so that the second is being mutiny. Got on your on every persuade you this you for more so once you brought pisses abroad. Just what you said not ready one to shoot thicke whatever whenever you want three through ten is over number. I'll take you got three because you were in ninety two. Who's after that is man. I want between medium out is shoot shoot. I'll take a six. It wasn't big at many predominantly. Chris said he is picked. We got five six seven eight ten. Thanks very much perfect. Let me thank you know also what you've got to back toward the parasite six seven eight. They asked me if you it's play rush cambodia figure out the ties we go back six seven eight ten ten gopher ten louis knew he was going to talk about that before the middle of the drifts seven six hundred seventy eight log s. yati six eight or seven. Tell fred tell tell leo's brother. I said seven on the horrendous it just everybody have computer logging depict besides bob and i said did you said islam. The madras trip grid win. They were flat last night was just a it takes a little bit bigger lever cory welcome to the room dragging really uh-huh language reporting for the young watch all. I don't know how many check if the divisions visions are the same as last year. I said watch do you watch. I don't remember how i still have. We did it september. I wish this your double check here before all we can't do drag on for the cruces listen before we can. We're going to yeah. He's a concern zero. He's the final fuck you up on the fucking it sounds like who comes dave and buster's and using the puck and i'm gonna use it would've never seen exact analyze it. I mean seriously he dishes with margaret taking iraq mission on the way mark covering the beer enough pizzas pizza delivery. I don't like i said vik sweden when it was pizza shared with those wings charges. I want to switch markets. See where peterson thinking looks comedy your normal our eight minutes all they go. Ed visits far bobby sir. You know me last year leoni. Don't you the run we always. I told he's addressing now the interesting part are you ready or you wanna get crazy. Take a big personality all right now. He's in the draft. Body named me kill fled rain and one of us felt me. I'd take again we something picked fucking grandma in the third round it what we try picks grand rapids. When would you like yeah like six six or seven probably not because we weren't you yeah okay. He's when on your touchdowns but nine times out of ten zero where we live. I'm not talking because you know i'm just wondering started carmine scott and much r._v. Rocco bye-bye rico david all right so this is going to be my proposition that the office everyone who's at warwick office. That's his offer offer now. We all know your no opposition. Bed argon was wrong caroline. I know they finally the one hundred dollars imagine they go and sixty. Would you like maybe you'll be pissed off block without having to worry about the board. Don't worry about it. Fucking the only time was your you have the vision frossard. I'll take early early best nick. Did he have last year. That's how did he score like second best on the wondering oh my god all should be all aw magnier human minute left early in beller breeze already david johnson j. j. d. j. He's got a bad guy. You gotta do it for him. Still on the board did you. It's not shown martin <music> click. David johnson clicked rap. We got it aww saquon saquon days one through our home home on this. We got we have one q._b. Two running backs two white outside tied onto flexible cared d._s._p. Six inch uh-huh monitoring using my queen at least he was drunk. We'd said mr safety. I'm just say i wrote it down. Whatever br peter come on repeat saquon. We are concerned aw you're on active done. He's done period. Could you lowered their chances. Anyone else yoga service those phony. I think you're crazy. Wrote doesn't right <music> marquee sleep did he dislocated his knee and always out for the season in fucking ugly on the clock that tom brady macabre colebrook puck rico to pick his wraparound. He's one bitching. Oh call. My takes way more than two minutes. There's no h._r. Gas pigment. They all said saly devante davenport abbott newt. Newt frank won't come away with mm stacked with staff running back right now walter up in geneva. This story was the guy that shot himself. Nice older commit be treated when he's shots. I mean silent work for all fact. You're six of <music> martin's dude. You're lucky you haven't been sued for trademark issues. Uh-huh same just pick darnold and be done with it and we're gonna get get your microphone though you know we're like ill microphone guys. Listen to my big mouth every week. Once your listeners believe it or not nobody's watching what's a bunch. I don't know i think i got like a high remote. One hundred dollars off uh-huh gronk in the second round whoa whoa do at this point. He's not getting elevate it. Google play on the the trump star fishes. Yes capri on we did not. He wasn't good rushing yards a._p._r. It was awesome. He they get three hundred touches. Mcbean was up. I like how c._b._s. Has tom brady era. Next two picks fucking retarded leo it's either julio owns or julia jones couch flip-flop shit got a camera it places because i don't think so i don't i don't melvin gordon was hurt but i don't think he'd announce. They showed a little yeah plus. I don't think he was hurt the e._m._c. he's not he's not one among the couple had such awful our p._d. Jamaica i'm back in a minute. Thank you thanks. Oh my god so you keep upgrade well. He beckham yes the calvin. He's on the board board who let's talk if you're looking at him and is a good pass. I'm just saying on there. That's how they heavy. Dolan's the arms jerry. It's now you a little you put the ball optical. You carry asshole. Okay right now. Come on i move. Can i take taking take more still story yet. Who left one fill out of art. Got hurt his truck eggnog alone again. You can get it. Study found that here is it braiko tennis black hole. I gotta find him. Aw excuse me. I got sick. If you click here you could search names by the way i got really have use interface that scott the no click de who for others such as follows. I restarted. You're mute mute. It was a rebuff now. The red buttons good liked picked up. Don't please tell me mixing up there for you. Said mixing was up there to want to the cold order alone. Allow a would would you take the power out our that's the way too many receivers. He was on there in minnesota there in principle to slam because you're used to three pressel anything but pretzel uh-huh crispy cursed close yeah yeah. We're live with the commissioner right here on w._f._a._n. W._f._a._n. ferrara it's a great fucking drop wasn't and take that go back to almost just like an hour and that draw from p._d. He's up automatic data set. Let's go bryant bickham. Kamal your body reset in general busy. How's that going. What's the difference now hance pass jerick mckinnon. I've been enforced on a._b._c.'s podcasts by the way fishy your bone bone special all stage. One stage tate's one attention here. I hope you have the dropbox. Whoa splash on your guys faces. This is on that was hysterical by the way wall wall go on. I can't wait. It's going to be scott to get back yeah. I got i strap. My friends are the friends. We spend a little more america. Mary who i was i was i iran <music> talking so much yes. You're going to have the best draft fucking cry. Let's see there's there's no way i can look at. I got it. I got tom brady at tokyo running back in these tell me this brother knows fucking standardly. Are you like who cares. God's out because that's just i mean i feel bad for the kids. Don't feel that anybody from my pants home. Go in house watching and laughing. Whoa oh yeah we'll figure for you guys. That's why on the border now off the ball. You're the smartest tied with downside role on these. Excuse news one thousand nine hundred computer eric eric jerry area the lion the mojo mark the market murray believe that iraq allocco wants uh-huh yeah sure thanks to jewish leaders smith schuster <music>. Here's a iran and watson gone. What's rigo. No rang a pig watson. Pick pockets perfect one. Oh yeah but you picked looping. Watson may bigham. I think if i may catch donna only never heard her staff or you the big dig coach sax on the clock. I win the first go trussell wilson no royce freeman. He's the star of the back for our debt. <hes> the rookie for denver. Who's up office running back. I probably was straightest. Eric on the board make any entire southern income married louis recoils vulture the goal line capitals campus talking food when he went up charles starfish the biscuit outlet <unk> division of labor water for chocolate star pitcher. You can pick today. Remember take one's already taken. You only got fifteen fourteen thirteen twelve. You got fifty seconds russia. We'll rather we do. Novara wraparound picks done you have to go by the winner booth and it's on the left i gotta pick for fuck and regal coal mine mine all over the place xerox online video gone <hes>. He's injured anyone so that's what i was telling him party twenty dollars if you use a ripon two-nothing buckets so you keep looking the wrong the whole fucking inserted inserted his pilot take hunt torn twenty. We'll go out to go get a fucking hurt. Who's coming from. We'd better not go. Check it out last night. We'll worry me we take my agenda <music> which is that we've cookie which deigned on with what you heard her for another jesus fucking christ and i watch them getting the update here sucks legal richer feeling. I'm feeling clues clued video recording collusion scott's rooted. My name is jan rocky. I collude he hate me. We love our donald. Trump would komo dropping to do it. He might go for a chance. You need it diane. Where are you would you go. I don't deal with old you gertrude trust. What did <unk> get really all in one place walter. He don't wanna leave but first. Let's not going after this. You're not have nothing else to fucking cock suck and i. What are you wanna fit came back to medium shot. He was available changes the only option though he'll not done what judo mexicans you get. It's actually pretty cool forgot night juno. If i was kick correct my fishman how many we have on our best reserve six six week nine starters six reserves welcome to physical. Thank you love you. I love you making your picks for you. Where you got okay in my i the second day. Check my pants on the lebow hristo what the lights it was terrible for our. We'll be back in the short brief moment as i shit the band's. Do you have commercial the shift to go. It just came out with annapolis startled. This is about it's five ships dancing a banana. The bug it hello good over. Shawnee would've fucking take out of his house. These i make decisions today. I want to take a nap. Our fucking shit has gotten better since collins gun shit as we feel so bad for instance. Don't talk stop before you put your podcast. Not ju. Cut it and edit it over. We're here today where we will use not like. Someone's going to watch this entire thing. You're gonna cut certain segments so someone's going to sit here and watch the whole three hours. Probably a ah i will just listen to me tomorrow. Your big dick or should not playing the niagara playing loving living dirty. Louise always figured they'd be like hey actually this is a decent pick. He gets like he's number two what he yeah. He's your sixty thousand years. I'm i think it's away from him. He's good. He's just suspended back but i'm saying if if you get in and then wait wait yeah pretty much. This is a good pick but if you get if you scroll up if you take him they could definitely get him. He'll definitely get him later so if you went him and then get him laugh if you don't like him either one. I think this guy falls to whoever here's another one all those hot dog killer schoon deals. I take my guy sweet joke lamour. No he took a that's a split. It's like so we are like what the fifth fifty fifth pick. I i check it. Check it. Check check at four hundred fifty. Four business is not suggest. Oh marion is torna fifty four to forty. We fucking all networks offer purchase challenge your for your heart sing fifty fifty. What do we do about bob. Bob bob bob roop tate. It sounds so we take a titty bar funds. Ah yes nine hundred s how long the fast copies ooh. I seem as soon as i saw rico recall. As soon as i saw the case in sorry you know i had but i just saw i have seconds left couldn't vince which are really the q hugh the queen que- it's make we may i ask please mice addresses. You wrote saying gay and if he does they do it. I want to rock them sock. Them robots oscar huge what i miss anything aren't happy drives. Listen that was marshawn lynch report marshawn lynch with four seconds guarantee radio drop. What's marshawn. Lynch squeeze into cui added the go-to j._j. Pump tune. I'm so getting our podcast down for trademark chef. Oh you guys were on the internet russia. We shouldn't say racist dude when i had when i had that tornado without t._v. and internet for four weeks so which do i know what you did read by candlelight covert silvestri accident. I was hoping he was gonna come back to me. I think you hick. You're fucking bomb are thinking it was good kansas. You fucking slowest draft every now skews more. Thank you still lose it goes quick birch but the second time around refractory periods not-so-good you need to nab his either guys lever back polio including the fact. He's actually watching the pope over here. Polo game jesus twins what else who else are you pregnant again. He's actually skidding. Yes scott. I should've podcast your soul ingram. You have kamara i do. It doesn't matter he's he's a lot of people in your yuri the <hes> thank god we did this here. This spread out leon here. It's awesome views. You have a half the new liver odd signals. We were about outside ed cigar. You grow bigger with lana jones off conglomerate josh josh gordon. That's a that's a risk you read it. He reported he starts practice yet. Aw that's like. I was reporting that it was when there was any fail the drug test you know but then he came out he he knows he failed another drug podcasts silly. Dare lock it up. It's on the board that edward pick by go. I was gonna pick by wasn't as the only way to come back sir t._d.'s woj now. My guys go on a percent. Reward are these who's up. Who's up no was she cowboys defense. Go free agent still on the board uh-huh easily mr cussin' kobe's the boys boys. That screen is flashing. Dave what's going on having a seizure. Leave your not built my report on one out of twenty four seven. Everybody uses back. Nobody wants to say in the preseason workhorse and knowing gaga cook up a a and what big big win. This back left his talk. Pick somebody might pick this fucking guy to europe. Talk honestly say come on with this complete. We go driven. Get this done before the season at least remember to vote on this year. I haven't going to be a sharpy right now. Twenty eighteen he had a heart sandwich thinking shut up. You got five seconds stick. You better have someone in your real. Quick mark with pistons silent piss off piss four years it it'll auto drifted of course of course don't waste. The queen computer froze got somebody else on the <music> it. I'm clicking and it didn't fuck and work. It's bull. I told you so when you're queen. You didn't have somebody rich bagels fantasy for you. I'm out that he's gone downhill. It's like oh. Oh yeah stay pad to throw up the tires tires. It really isn't what i wanted to pigments the rock inside role office. I knew visiting new vis vinny always takes drew brees that they had reading for the last four years. Take me to fix it. We hold on time out now. Just you know did you know it says vinnie had to suspend jamal williams so the why did you pick up. I didn't think you'll the abbott to fifty eight picks so we should just go back to the fifty. Seven pig venues. You're williams says drew brees theory yeah no no he doesn't that killed fifty seven v but jamal seven out of this in my show in to check your life because she's because i thought it says the chat room says two picks but the actual big was all is not so i should go back and start up against you know vinnie drew brees. Yes you got your jones. There's three pigs who a <music> basic with carmine europe's not want fucking. Ben rothlisberger got finally got pick ben rothlisberger. I'm in way who's before. I mean i'll trade you offering next. You know what i know watching because you have been spurred the last year in the n._f._l. Throw for like seven eight hundred yards. They treat no traded analysts. Even says koala bears. Peter call went autopilot ever looking a little dirt mile thank you that's why damnest booking stupid quite game. It sounded like this fucking boy. You know voted to the shut up shoot room. I think i'm an asshole as far. Oh totally forget dacha drift lewis derrick sir alan your mcqueen. Mike mike we the well read a real to sucks or call bullshit. We'll show is driven mission or i've never dated mustard again. Oh malarkey. Everybody wants mark to be commissioner. I say i say to myself about taking on twenty. Six seconds regard rigo <music> who of now vinnie vincenzo live in chinese banks. We don't walking out them collusion collusion. If you're gonna take somebody take him collusion yeah in two days. You can always get somebody off the weight. I mean it's either him or him but anybody else isn't worth anton fucking collusion clean it up all the home run but they brick lane one flocking look. If you really wanted to do was go in your cell phone the packers running running back like those definitely on those picks. Can we oughta away. You can wait. You spoke to move and out matt's if jimmy grandpa talking that's fucking graham leaves a very well. If you wants to suit i still give time the rothlisburger had cousins in the queue in their diplomatic as the three cousins way more consistent as well at the right name. We end this way down at walter. Wake the queen up but he always puts up yards. I guess what i'm starting luggage rothlisberger. It was fifty points forty points until both shit the bedroom bosberg three in one rogaine very differing weather instate states wasn't the best is the best. This is a nice lab shot in a dome slapshot. Take you guys lost fifteen to one fifteen to one. They played better defense the alamo. Oh yeah you guys all like did shit on the test subject. It's okay. It's okay you guys suck. Big dicks pockets your pocket sonia way back refill. Thank you sir correct last. I'm good. I don't either need the fucking. I'm not drinking won't won't ask her. That apart trade three tickets for a dessert. That's the question eight thousand percents mm-hmm markle trade. You hadn't bought this burger who pray for jackie's magic beanstalk. I used to go and now we lay wide receiver movin rolling rolling who took rock henry cam newton who took the out henry you won't die with what are you talking about. What he's what are you jamal williams ocean finally bag. Obviously you should take berg rothlisberger for drunk straight up. Newton in high grass grow on the way to fucking six months. You're wonders extra six and a half. I can't can't wait for those. Magnetic fridges to open baby on walking got done walking cheese the number one running back he will enough of it running back washington list or something by the way sneaky. He's sneaky pick their next sneaky. Sneaky negative changes that chrissy candidates nizhni pick right there now he's talking about is the only one ever audible go. They got another one by committee. He's been killing it jordy nelson life fuck around him. Sali's leaving the charge that started the hot dog flavored water on you ever for a colored man man nailed. It nailed your mom of course don't tell podcast perfect real quiet. He's honey sickly son symphony. I can tell him it wasn't that was i was either bodysuit or that guy carbon shit. We've stood out. I have a p._d. Twenty five seconds one championship carson wentz have to pick a quarterback got fucking ben rothlisberger when alleged stirred yup he carbines big reach anabel anda uh-huh paralyzed television pittsburgh cheesier. It is in char- you blush you you are but that's besides the point long shot there. Somebody we were like wait for the draft and some or pretty sure the waiter from the bustard carpet bombed us this disgusting. Somebody wiped there. S wants insists is fun. She bunch go as long aw burgers. Let's put into this. Could you check your socks so that i think that he's checking south florida. I eat before he gave me all raw so watch out for that contra contra. He'll be coming for real smell does reach fucking three states awfully quiet over there thirteen undertaker's little fucking social whatever you say papa who has dirac henry. It doesn't take a guess what he can do with your sample the one in the wood but i have a backup just in case you went that i didn't want him. I was just wondering who advocate of just in case boom boom proper woods corey davis davis five up. Oh yeah that's right here this week. You down sore the next thing. I was like yeah june jim. We were talking about that to sort of saying well. He stole my fit fit. Sedate sedate excited. I thought you were talking about different. Peak bowel also get wants it wraps back around to i'm not gonna take ah shit out. I got somebody else in mind. I need to pick somebody else. You did or no one just a naked picture over well here. We go still still has an engraved. The belt into yeah on autopilot islet pete boom boom boom sees in to the campus arte champions. They'll do off <music>. When he gave the. I got free. He gave a little no. It took fucking forever. No so like i was like dude. What is i literally dropped it all day or was it. Oh you got to ended up being like a two week thing so like when he called me. I was like listen. I can't pick it up. I'm gonna send my wife. It's like a close advisor like my wife will pick it up. He was already closed when he dropped the belt off of the pizzeria uh-huh and he never charged any news to know the pizza rejected his shot so my wife that does ten seconds no he's talking about quarterbacks right by fucking hope he pays stafford stafford stafford up into quake jimmy g. there goes no no no no twice right. You have to fix. It's not all real time and turn it off. Turn off a you're not the first picking should get to for the next auto. Probably what ended up happening. You ran out of time for your first big electric second who are uh-huh so we should go back to the fifty seven. Go fucking cheating best you just as you have to queen of. I just backed out of the last. Pick everything that's on on one every time i got listening automatically fifty k. Do you click turn on autopilot. Actually just double check you want. I look at right no uh-huh yeah. Go take you for you did it. It turned on autopilot. You got an automatic week including two more going to be here tomorrow or so. Yes it's bullshit congressman kickable coach what if you put bullshit in here right this year every corey he jimmy garoppolo and kearns reminds moron and his autopilot because he put people in his quote unquote quake and he kept picking up jimmy even though he didn't want him because he's a moron but he'll would probably be picking him anyway geez in the que- it jimmy g. was in the corner close to it. The i told you who you're picking on beggarly. Just walks rico think willie. It might be nice betty to what he's again running back many which will only three tiers have at sutter. I pickles. That's when you got you got three so he could double up. Jimmy garoppolo calvin readily glenn originally the greet him up so i certainly nobody because now queen tweet right up. Can you face sometimes a good que- me gets me go. Why are you guys have an adult conversation. What you guys alleging that you all your feet and if you don't take land what about uh so and on tuesday is love you motherfucker shuttle. I don't i don't get caught and guess what i don't get called on tuesday fucking ten o'clock when you're aware anybody wanted to go to dave and buster's tuesday pat i said ten a._m. Tuesday that's my point. So why would i call you <music> sport revolution. Oh you didn't pick him son of deep. Oh i forgot the record for what yeah no. What's your yeah yeah. I told you of an all the andrew luck. I don't come your donation of one dollars tape mark. That's number. One number was number one. I'll tell you avi more ono. No no this injuries along yeah oh you and you're the one that was right. He was looking. I love us over the fuck inventions and it's not a cooler by was jewish and he had the best thing. I know you asked mark as collusion last week. Wipe quarterback ben rafa burgo back but it's okay to put out who knew the collusion. I texted me aside and said you know but chick was that c._j. Rocky in the league that was collusion russian play. That's what got me down a first year second year. Appear votes knock on wood goes home pit. You're welcome here. Awful corral lewis as good as they're like. He's five and he's only three and four and the preseason 'cause you know the preseason council so much we also and then he pulls a hamster they number one year competing thirty-five next one no he didn't throat sac. Yes bill and you don't have enough on julian watts interest life except for the patriot running back for basis the duty brother the left. He's trying to block his brother. He's <music> his but i mean you get the ninetieth really beliefs on your. They asked me if he could from his phone or if you wanted to call in and said that's fine but he put his brother and it's like did it did it for him and his do we get. I don't know if he knows what's going on but i guarantee you. We're going to get a funniest x medicine a couple of days. How how does visited tonight comes tonight early morning okay but what the fuck negro the target what the fox all. That's his name now yeah. That's that's his name the owner or whatever i i think you're tied the telling you roll the number. One is fucking kissing the number one according according to e._s._p._n. The person who has the number one pick windsor league fifty five percents. Uh not ours i know. I don't think it's ever come for more but that's that's the that's because i think the goal by people who draft like airlines the aw you look at you really free homes branded for ranga you with somebody else. On the board of reason regal be lifted. We'll be joined. What are you doing in france senate's cubic. Make your talk for really one. That one was four nick. When's our next year james. I wanted to talk to us. We've stafford like one or two shots so now now we're higher volt. This race franks a week from today evil. Can i'd rather francois four four nine nine o'clock yeah. That's true a minute in part because we were looking at the camera. Do i gotta you woulda. There's he doesn't plus. It's all right. I mean on jaguars and i can't wait for you to get hurt speech. That's not as <hes> but if you're going to joe for defense as a defensive jump world it goes a defense storms. The rules rules. What matt is so what wait what patriot does frankie take next no one hundred dollars the fifty four thousand coastal hasn't started it took you do the research of you not forty second inside. Don't don't sleep on this drug trade off my belt. This time around i get an extension so can fit around fitter rajini order. We'll make it fit there. They'll try. Don't touch the cup. I touch the cup. I touch the cup when i was like nine. You ever fucking like it's gonna be for his mark with the chubby got choppy. So where are you stop it one time. You wear pegged you talk. I know what i'm watching home tonight. They'll take him you know. What's what's what's what's holding fucking <hes> <hes> oh god fucking show tony. What's what's this love the fourteen what's the show with the fuck in baseball but what's it what's it called because they named after his wife fish his banging the neighbor <hes> it's not it's called jordan reed so we got every patriot and the title get injured the most who is right now that's unknown circa now trevor simian it doesn't it does paxton lynch. Don't start the you don't fucking give me case keenum and he wanted something like what the fuck you retarded kind of. What was that trading sorbet. Yes your party so what's up with your voice which point ordinal what's up little miss aw yeah and good spread via taste shit seven eight five six rear the which is the mother. It was just my warning shots nephew for sharp-end way second. One was penny were shot. He responded the opposite. I was thinking i the rookie who when you're always sorry bobby. Take me oh my god breath. Okay now i can think of. I think i didn't pick them. Robbers burger anymore harming. Only the pros ariza's played again. This year probably over dead done so you can flipped out. That student has a bomb rico quite over yet. Oh would there be unexpected of insurance. That's going to be some defense next. Eh spreads it loads of good but they don't taste good all the way back up so i may i serve you don't want jimmy garoppolo the look maybe we reserve spots pick a bobby. That's why i want to work kubrick if you didn't take him i'm always picking astronaut jerry. I had jeffrey with other radar. Moron may have now go get dressed on a tuesday night for you know complaints. We're contracting and toll mid day flogging and get a free game play for my contract so walk out of here. Someone's get recognized as revolution. I told we're going to be like eleven hundred thirty. She goes close at midnight. She goes. You just got to be a ah issues dress susan night feel watch your job and that's not going to be united on tuesday night. Actually benefit benefits <music> four with this. I've taken like four guys p._d. Wanted what do especially since there's four all spelled different im- doug eight and shovel when they said that on e._s._p._n. The other day four of them they all smell them differently devante booker devante booker demonic parv devante freeman and there's another one pads those are the four guys and they all smell different was at the it was tied vision. We do less during thing avia from cozy. This is where you win. Championships baby <hes> they just give back today for cash okay so do not the american the guy you saw we are in the eleventh third pick of the eleventh round talk show i want it. I'll take it has from her our weight is it a coincidence that it's cold stone and it was her funeral voice. That was the worst i it's a coincidence downs. Call all dead body turning plant in the ground place. That was good you know. I think that's a change back to pick fifty. Seven tactics of ben rothlisberger is biggest fan on wall street the hamels although sucks runs no walks just an all mongoose nelson agonize yeah no kentucky cobb randy dale you might not get he might get trade somewhere to uh-huh and he always he always gets those touchdowns and he's like oh shit our outside the thirty and his i hope this needle wide receiver to back up which they did so you know what i mean like. Al-messa scored congrats. Let's see bronson awesome. She said sir. I'm still jimmy. Jean goes he went to of of course bob marino bob iran. I can't wait till you get like uh background in. This bed got hundreds of thousands of dollars do that ship. I was telling him like the mike was only forty. I got a free mike bye bye from forty. Get one for free threat to this just like to run the site host the host the podcast up their mother <music>. You're listening to advertise this or that site committed with a kiss yeah yeah i can tell if they're clicking from facebook or if they don't on facebook and instagram and shit i have integrated were pressure. You have integrated in the workplace. Yes the championship. Do you just text. I think he might actually be picking in this ugly by actually as you want. I want to go in my heart the ball that's the spurs you gotta competitor only pizza home all dead or ham and cheese. Pepperoni is the best friend i've ever joke do good. What's the move of us. Maybe we should have that in your. That's one of those. Somebody's definitely hurt connection. What would have been rob berger excuse did that. I'll tell you who's available you. Come look at other because always the draft happens or you can tell me who you pick this much of course once again six. They said he's starting aw that was my other son. Receive records the jacksonville did you did you did you. What did you really did you really but did you excuse me again. I was joking talking. Yeah i know i know i was joking. Gave us aziz fifteen fifteen robust their bodies pace in rhode somebody soon back but on the four what is gonna not a podcast who is anybody. Could i don't <music>. I'm going home on your. Did you really pick shepherd. I told her start. It's eight forty five on who's goatsucker picking nap fifteen. We'll be we'll be under into our shot. We do was fifty one. Oh play something for everybody. I have my well you. I'm gonna give brigham giving you five hundred dollars a month. That's all the prophet who <music> on tuesday now. Take i'm on the dick on the dick. Thanks in my shopper people while ago bobby i was just saying i was wondering when the cowesett style brothels opening in toronto now off that sounds an easy cleanup. The wrong sounds like fucking our roads clean up duties trying to get his card hindquarters. What'd you pick brian louise sexual mom sensible wonder sex we offer somebody just pick the chargers defense uh-huh redone bobby doesn't move very angry are- why are you taking this woman they call beasley any komo defensive rams in jacksonville doc. Oh ding dong picks pick somebody preventing. It's a sexy bitch your the vikings l. Can you tell the defense yup cool definitely listen yeah. I didn't really know what you say griffin. He focused fuck it. I'm snapping fucking ben rothlisberger juju smith schuster a third round corrosion ju ju judy us damn girl. Somebody better pick my boy. I think so. I can say his name will be. I think people will go into. Would you say <hes> robbers did not the lady's name beatrice. I'm gonna be interesting. Vessel rinks tricks no b. e. a. t. r. i in the interests. I'd give them a game. Play cards the i wasn't born. There wasn't voting falsely play yeah. You're the queen who would run although joe the biggest sikeli take office office burger. The lord god damnit vicky batts goes my click the by accident research pretty cited less down here glass. How could we didn't draft walleye. Press the button by accident huge. I wanted i wait. We broke up road yeah when you fucking knock your show my laptop such they play. It was supposed to be like a twenty dollar game player something about that. Oh aw you don't get more. We all were done and it's not from any around. Raffray forgot to clean up. Oh play it's the concert versus big strikes in fact back off the not on seltzer water backup. Beckham moore left the lobby. I says mark i'm left. I i guess i guess i guess i guess that's the same thing as you can pick up seven. I can't believe that took how'd you you're the commissioner. How'd you not pause your own pig. I was clicking draft. The whole time on was we're trying to give the twins. No forget who i think it was either johnson waded. I'm getting all the way back around would've went somewhere else. Karen kerryon johnson johnson who i wanted co-hosting when he just gave me the next highest oil and fucking cocoas. Oh my god that's funny why do i they say it's got asshole say because it's always good say twice voices always point where we'll get you a walker <music> but that's how it runs on community sign up. You'll walker here. I am not conceding until september third next week. You're still the month. 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Your hands eighty ninety sure then straight who wills metal now. He's washed my school. I got to figure in your mind. Yours and we are in the last round of the draft so they'll be cheap. You're more people don't i hope podcast audience beach. No he tried to kiss a tax levels. Skinny already tuck russell wilson on the jets drafted in this fantasy league toco well. That's it out. I think robbie sits on the board jordan but i don't i can't do his asia trip hundred assault what even on my only cowboy with your differences uh-huh somebody but leo's team on my fucking funny. We'll wait and see if april fluffy looking draft jock. You're on the clock twenty thirty two i draft graham canals all sleep thirty two cooling undo recovers my who des in the good outcome the connell c. You want bug yeah grandpa. If you own your up you want me to scotty long now. I we have an hour and a half the cards. Who do i settle the balanced man. I'll send me sir now posit so yeah don't become the depository. 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