35 Burst results for "Lamelo Ball"
Rozier has 29, leads Hornets past sliding Cavaliers 119-98
"Terry Rozier carried the Hornets to a one nineteen ninety eight win over the Cavaliers Rosier had twenty nine points seven rebounds and seven assists picking up the offensive slack with LaMelo ball in foul trouble ball played just eight minutes and was for three from the field I said Thomas scored ten points in his debut for Charlotte which made seventeen three pointers and improved to just three and eleven since January twenty eighth Cavaliers guard Darius garland returned from a three game injury absence and finished with thirty three points in as many minutes I'm Dave Ferrie
Bucks score 44 in 2nd quarter, roll past Hornets 130-106
"A season high forty four points second quarter carried the box to an easy win over the Hornets one thirty to one oh six Jana sought a couple led the bucs with twenty six after building a twenty three point halftime lead there was no letting up for the box in the second half guard Grayson Allen we've seen many times is have a big lead at halftime that third quarter comes around we give away so we all talk about it we all know third quarter is important the box at five players in double figures by the half drew holiday finished with twenty one Bobby Portis with twenty boards who suffered a last second loss the night before we're led by LaMelo ball's twenty for the Hornets have lost eleven of thirteen check freedom Milwaukee
DeRozan, Vucevic lead Bulls past struggling Hornets 121-109
"The martyr Roseanne dropped in thirty six points and Zach Levine had twenty seven is the bulls dealt the Hornets their sixth straight loss one twenty one one oh nine to Rosen has averaged thirty three points over his last eleven games just going out there playing you know on understanding the moment you know just trying to finish this thing off wanted to break understand how critical these games are Nikola vucevic added eighteen points fifteen rebounds and eight assists to help Chicago get within one game of the Eastern Conference leading heat double shot fifty six percent from the field including forty eight point five percent from three point range LaMelo ball had thirty three points and nine rebounds for Charlotte which made just thirteen of forty three three pointers and is shooting twenty seven point six percent from downtown during this kid I'm Dave Ferrie
Pelosi Urges Olympic Athletes Against Angering the Chinese Government
"Nancy Pelosi has some comments here about the Olympics. Now, I don't defend Nancy Pelosi. But I think that it's actually a little bit unfair to attack her for what she said here. Minorly unfair. I think some of the criticisms towards Pelosi here have not been totally wise and I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, so Nancy Pelosi tells U.S. athletes not to speak out against the Chinese communist regime, lest they risk incurring the anger of the Chinese government. Now, she's being called a shill in the pup of the Chinese Communist Party. That's right, but I'll be very honest with you. If I was sending athletes to China, I'd be telling them the exact same thing. Unless you want them to end up as hostages like LaMelo Ball was. You gotta tell them what they're getting in for. I'm not a fan of trying. I think China is an existential enemy. So play cut 79. I would say to athletes, you're there to compete, do not risk, incurring the anger of the Chinese government, because they are ruthless. I know there is a temptation on the part of some to speak out while they are there. I respect that, but I also worry about what the Chinese government might do to their reputations to them families. Now, here's the way it should be done. Okay? First of all, why Pelosi's commenting on this? I don't get that. Is Biden should say, listen. I have given every athlete from America a green light to speak as you choose China, you lay a hand on them, you got a problem. 200% tariffs. China's now a free speech zone. Welcome to the party. That has to come from the president, not from Pelosi, I'm saying if I was just like a House of Representatives and I were like Pelosi, she's actually not wrong. That's not the point. The point is that Trump or Biden whoever was president should say, okay, we're going to go compete in your COVID zero games, you lay a hand on an American, you are not getting a product into America for a year. It's that simple. Will Rockwell rec your economy.
"lamelo ball" Discussed on The NBA Show
"Folks, basketball is very good and it is a beautiful day to talk about basketball any day that I'm talking about basketball with my co host, Jonathan sharks is a beautiful day. Sharks, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. I think it's better. Now we're back over Zoom. It's probably a better dynamic for both of us instead of being in IRL in real life. You're big on the IRL abbreviation I noticed. You know, you're big on like the text abbreviations. I didn't take you for one of those heavy millennial digital minded people because you're off social media. What's the deal with that? Well, I am still a millennial though. When we do the best we can, but we are who we are, right? We are Internet creatures. Ain't that the truth? So sharks and I just got back from Vegas. Actually, I mean, Tom flies, it's been back for a week on my wife, but we went out to the G league showcase, if you were listening last week, we were out there for that. Milling around in Vegas, watching a lot of the which was totally disrupted by the COVID call ups as we saw. The NBA has been really irregular really strange right now with all the players going into protocols. Those numbers I don't have them in front of me, but it's a lot. We've all seen it. And it was interesting to see those guys kind of come up. This week, we want to focus, we're going to come back and talk more about some of the headline names from the last couple of years. Two players who were in the same draft. I think they were there was some sort of there were a lot of mixed bag. I don't think that there was sort of a unanimous camp for either one of these guys, I would say. The first guy that we want to kind of jump in and talk about here is LaMelo Ball. LaMelo Ball, one of the most famous basketball players for his age group, really of the social media era, would you say he's the most famous basketball player? Is that possible? Like, along with like Zion? I mean him or Zion, yeah, probably. You know, lamella is on the radar really early. Mainly because of his big brother, he was he sort of looked like a Muppet with that big floppy hair that he had when he was a Chino Hills. When you first found out about him, did you kind of go through a similar process that I did where there was sort of like these levels of starting to take him more and more seriously as we went. How did you feel about lamelo during his high school days during that YouTube mixtape era? That seemed to last for a long time. I mean, it seemed like we knew him for so long before he was actually playing serious organized basketball. Talk about what your early impressions were of him like a leading up to where we are now. Well, I got to give a shout out to our old ringer colleague Danny chau. So he wrote a big takeaway piece. It actually launched the ringer. He went and talked to the ball brothers. Lamella was like in 7th grade at the time. So obviously heard about him and he's a middle schooler. I didn't know what to make of it, really. I was interested by what they were doing, the family. And I always thought, you know, I'm big believer in younger brothers and playing up. And so it's always like, okay, lamelo is playing up from the age of ten, basically. He's always playing us better competition. He's always testing himself. Iron sharpens iron. So I try to stay out of the celebrity stuff and I was just like, you know, this could be a player to watch in a couple of years because Lonzo's really good, obviously. And if Lonzo's good, then lamelo has a chance to be better. Yeah, it's an interesting thing where I feel like he was, you know, you had like the 90 point game, you've got him pointing at the spot on the floor from God knows how far away that was that famous picture. You know the one I'm talking about were calls a shot. I think some of that stuff just sort of overshadowed who he was as a player, but if you look between the lines, it was like, you're right, about the playing up, the things like that. He had developed those skills. And you see a lot of those things sort of crystallizing and who he is now as a player. A lot of that sort of odd. We've talked about this on the ringer university show last year that that odd sample that he had as a younger player made him extremely experimental, made him extremely creative. I was kind of coming into the draft, though, fast forwarding, where did you have him on your big board, like in terms of how did you see him going into the league and how did he sort of surpass your expectations? I had an aunt one lamella too. And I think that was definitely wrong. I mean, I'll answer really good player. I will talk about him later in the show, but I think pretty clearly now lamella is the best player in that draft. And he's exceeded, I was pretty high on him, and he's exceeded my expectations for sure. I wasn't sure how his scoring would translate. I wasn't sure, 'cause the passing was obvious. You could wash him for 5 minutes and say, this guy is an elite passer. He can run a team. Because he had this weird combination where he'd make these crazy passes, but his turnovers were always very low in spite of the absolutely insane passes he would attempt. That was very encouraging. It was always just a matter of is this guy going to score enough? Is the jump shot real? Can you score around the rim? Will that make up for, well, that allow him to maximize his passing ability? Kind of like we talked about with Josh Getty last week. If you're a great passer and you can't score at a certain point, that contradicts a kind of holds you back in spite of your passing. Well, I think in these two years in the NBA we've seen this, he can score well enough. He can get his buckets and move the ball around and make things happen. Yeah, I think that well enough is kind of the range where the conversation about him like going forward, where does he go from here? How does he evolve, get better? Where does his production kind of bloom and blossom? You're right, like a scoring wise right now. He's right at about 20 points per game. A desist per game. The shooting is an interesting thing because the free throw percentage I think is really interesting thing. He's shooting 91.6% from the line, getting to the line as a whole other kind of conversation. I want to kind of break this down into the areas of concern that we had for him going forward and how he sort of addressed those. You're right about the passing. Those things were always there. I was looking last night. Agree or disagree with me on this. I think that he might be him and jokic, he and jokic might be the most elite over the top placement passers in the world. I was just thinking this morning, he is a jokic level passer, but he's much, much faster, obviously. But I would say that the best two passion in the league, I think, pretty clearly. Oh, you think overall they are the best. I guess you put LeBron in there too, but those are the top three passers in the league. Harden. But so here's the thing I think what I think separates lamella and jokic from the other guys. So if you look at the tracking numbers and lamella and jokic are both in the top 5 and touches, but neither is very high in time of possession. So jokic holds a ball for 4.1 minutes a game. Lamelo is at 6. And you compare hardens at 9.2, Lucas at 9.4 Troy young's at 8.6. What's that saying is his lamella and jokic give The Rock up. Like they're passing a ton and they're not holding the ball. They're letting everybody else get involved. It's kind of like the counter to the whole heliocentric thing, your harden, Luca, Trae Young, LeBron to lesser extent. They're more of a reaction to that and saying, we're going to hold the ball, but we're also going to get rid of it really, really fast. We're not going to just dribble the bond to the ground. We're going to let everybody else eat too. Yeah, I think you're spot on right there because there are like these macro kind of conversations in the NBA about like how to play, what's the best way to play? Because we've seen I have a friend who always says there are a lot of ways to skin a cat. With NBA. First off, that's weird thing to say. Poor kids. Come on. Who are skinning these cats? That's a weird one. Drop that from your lexicon folks. No, I think over time we've seen we've seen different versions of this. We've seen like feed the ball to shack, like players who are like touch dumb and it who keep the ball a lot, but you kind of have to be in efficient score to play that way for that to justify playing that way. Otherwise, you're just going to have a bad offense..
Jazz start fast, pull away late to beat Hornets 112-102
"Pretty pretty good good there there had had twenty twenty three three points points in in twenty twenty one one rebounds rebounds as as the the jazz jazz knocked knocked off off the the Hornets Hornets one one twelve twelve one one oh oh to to go go bare bare went went fifteen fifteen of of sixteen sixteen from from the the free free throw throw line line setting setting a a new new career career high high for for made made free free throws throws putting putting a a work work for for those those over over the the years years so so you you know know what what every every time time I I shoot shoot in in the the lawsuit lawsuit to to make make it it in in tonight tonight a a good good opportunity opportunity to to get get to to the the line line a a lot lot so so it it was was a a it it was was a a great great boy boy and and Bogdanovich Bogdanovich added added twenty twenty three three points points for for the the jazz jazz who who blew blew a a twenty twenty two two point point lead lead but but finished finished strong strong to to snap snap a a two two game game home home losing losing streak streak Donovan Donovan Mitchell Mitchell chipped chipped in in twenty twenty one one points points in in the the victory victory LaMelo LaMelo ball ball led led Charlotte Charlotte with with twenty twenty one one points points and and eleven eleven assists assists before before fouling fouling out out in in the the final final minute minute I'm I'm Dave Dave very very
Lonzo Ball helps Bulls beat LaMelo Ball's Hornets, 133-119
"The the call call of of the the switch switch had had a a double double double double with with a a season season best best thirty thirty points points and and fourteen fourteen boards boards in in the the bulls bulls won won thirteen thirteen one one nineteen nineteen down down into into the the Hornets Hornets the the martyr martyr Roseanne Roseanne accounted accounted for for twenty twenty eight eight points points Zach Zach Levine Levine had had twenty twenty five five and and Chicago Chicago shot shot a a season season high high fifty fifty nine nine point point six six percent percent from from the the field field the the bulls bulls also also won won the the battle battle of of the the ball ball brothers brothers with with Lonzo Lonzo improving improving two two two two one one one one and and three three NBA NBA meetings meetings with with a a mellow mellow Lonzo Lonzo finished finished with with sixteen sixteen points points and and eight eight assists assists while while a a mellow mellow had had eighteen eighteen points points and and thirteen thirteen assists assists Terry Terry Rozier Rozier poured poured in in thirty thirty one one points points in in Gordon Gordon Hayward Hayward had had twenty twenty two two for for the the Hornets Hornets on on the the ferry ferry
Banner night for Heat, who hang on and top Hornets 114-99
"Jimmy Butler poured in thirty two points in the heat wasted most of a twenty six point lead before posting a one fourteen ninety nine win over the Hornets bam Adebayo had twenty six points and nineteen rebounds on the night his Olympic gold medal banner was unveiled in Miami Tyler hero scored twenty six points off the bench for the heat who enjoyed a sixty thirty seven rebounding advantage Gordon Hayward scored twenty three points and miles bridges had twenty two for Charlotte Hornets guard LaMelo ball struggled with his shot hitting just two of fourteen from the field I'm the ferry
LaMelo Ball Rumored to Be Dating 32-Year-Old Instagram Model
"Lamelo ball is nine thousand nine hundred. He's the reigning nba rookie of the year. He is the younger brother of lonzo any plays for the charlotte hornets. He is now dating a thirty two year old instagram model anna montana and they were seeing together in a date which is led many fans criticizing montana for dating someone a lot younger than her. The word predatory is being used a lot of these. She's thirty two he's nineteen. What do you think i'm fine with. It lindsey what are you guys. These guys are these guys yeah. They're grown men. They can make these decisions. You wanna know what nineteen a grown man. You've lived overseas lithuania when you were sixteen. Or whatever he was he's he's been all over the world he's been. I mean he's should be worldly by now now. He made a big stink in that article about not going to college. And i didn't need to learn anything there and yada yada yada so make about what you will but i just think he's having the kid who cares you. Don't let them go. Let them get married. Or if he's gonna get married making planet pre-nup but
Terry Rozier Agrees to Four-Year, $97 Million Extension With Charlotte Hornets
"Getting paid in a major way. I was not expecting Terry to get the Supermax contract extension, but he did. $97 million over the next four years for Terry Rozier with the Charlotte Hornets. Terry had a great run at Louisville still holds the record for most points, scored in a season by a sophomore and had a great run in Boston. It was fun watching him play not only get a lot of minutes for a good team that was in contention, but the Celtics that was a great run they had, and he was a big factor in that. He goes to Charlotte. I think in his first year little underwhelming, they paid him a lot of money and then kind of quietly in his second season with the Hornets this past year, I had a really good year averaged 20 points per game shot 45% from three and I think it didn't get as much attention because the rookie on his team Lamelo ball ended up winning. Uh, the The rookie of the year, But yeah, Terry getting paid in a major way. That's uh,
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
2020 Draft Re-Grade: Western Conference
"All right will. Let's start with the minnesota timberwolves at the number one pick in the draft. They drafted anthony edwards one leandra bomar morrow twenty-three made a trade with the lakers that ultimately landed them jade mcdaniels at twenty eight. I give him a b plus on draft night and primarily digging them because they didn't take the top guy in my board. lamelo ball. Tony what did you think about draft on draft night. And what do you think about it. season later or. I don't remember what grades i gave. I know i gave a nor gave him a high grade For for anthony edwards But i'm going even higher. I'm going to give them in a For the address of our anthony which has been I think he's gonna turn out to be better than we thought. I think these He his rate of improvement over. The season has been Very very very noticeable. I think he's improved The one thing that that i want worried about going into the draft was his ability off the dribble. And i don't think he has any issues off the dribble He's he's a dog. I love how he gets after it. you know but one of the reasons why i wanna give minnesota at a is because of the practice jay mcdaniels You know he's he's exactly what i thought he was. Which is a guy who's losing with ability losing talent I was shocked at how good jay mcdaniels was. Defensively shocked
What Knicks trade for Lonzo Ball could look like
"To the pelicans new orleans lonzo ball love him or leave him leave him. I think a lot of return for lonzo ball. And i i gotta tell you. I'm really impressed with all the talk. We've been having about lamelo ball lonzo. Ball's men baldwin him shooting the ball well from the three point line. He's not really playing. His position stands got him sort of three indeed settings threes. Chris i on your. I can pick and roll like okay. Zion's carmelo no lonzo ball is the karl malone and john stockton karl malone what the hell down world but it works. It works the upside down any can defend. Yeah leave him. Yeah that's what i think. He fits with the knicks. Because we talked about you talk about random about how well you know how hard air coats and commitment to the defense side of all you have to get a certain type of store star in new york. He's a guy that won't be afraid of coming in and do a little hard working in committing to both sides of the ball quickly which you know. Obviously well his dad prophesized already. He prophesied before but now we just gotta deal with him stats next.
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Williams or at the five or you know. I brought up atlanta like putting him next cam reddish deondraye hunter and even in a lineup with clin cappella and trae young. Like that is very. That's that's tough man. That's like a tough lineup. And he's hitting spot up the race. This season i know he's been inconsistent From behind the three point line for most of his career but He's knocking them down right now. I just think like you know you bring up. Dwight powell lake the draymond. Green comparison has been there for a very long time. That possibility I i just really wanna see it for him. Fan in a different role. That's a real headline here if he really did request trade. It's about time. Because michael has requested an aaron gordon trade like thirty seven times in the last six years. So we're ready for michael. I want to close up with one last question. It kind of comes in from tony. It's a little bit of a curve. Ball he writes. Hey guys. I love the open floor. Podcast i'm a street photographer and i love listening to bed. Tom michael outshooting homeboy anyway. I've had this idea stuck in my craw for the past few weeks. And i just can't shake it. What if each team were allowed only allowed to send one player to the all star game. Every year think about all the ramifications players would be less likely to team up and they would be more likely to go to small-market teams so they could be the alpha players that are thinking about joining another star. We'll have to weigh that against fewer all-star appearances for the hall of fame. Conversation as a lifelong spurs fan. I would love rule changes that benefits. Small-market teams ben in michael. You guys can laugh at this ridiculous idea all you want. I'm just hoping to be able to stop thinking about it by now. So i guess he's out there just shooting these incredible photos and can't get this idea out of his head. Michael thanks to tony for that question. What do you think what would happen if they did. Come up with this rule. And would you be in favor of it..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"There's no chance that i'm ever going to get the last shot either. Which that you're right that it would be a tough pill to swallow with my little brother. getting paid more money than me eventually and team charlotte's that perfect team to do this because remember they used to have rod higgins's kid. Michael has like of his family members in various front office roles and buddies. You know it's like that's kind of been there for a while. It would be hilarious if they got all three ball. Brothers but i digress. Michael gimme your favorite moments. Okay so real quick. My two favorites The i was his tip dunk over democracy bonus against the pacers earlier this season it was just like added. Nowhere i. I did this interview with eric collins. Who is the play by play announcer for the charlotte hornets. And i asked him for his favorite call of the season and told him it didn't have to be about lamelo but it was bella mellow regardless and He picked that tip dunk because he just had no idea that lamelo could do something like that so it was just eye opening for everyone who was around the team that he had that type of those type of ups and that type of aggression play really stands out in my mind's eye and the other one he threw this full length like real legitimate full length baseball past not from the free throw line not from his own. The top of the key or anything. It was like legitimately. He was standing basically out of bounds. Full length baseball. Pass to gordon hayward who cut it on the opposite baseline and in one motion. Hit this fading footer. Against the knicks really random play but just so beautiful lake one of the most beautiful places. I've seen anyone make all season. So there's like dozens of them. If you just watch. The hornets play basketball regularly. He makes like two or three really memorable plays a game but those two have stood out in my mind. Yeah no question i mean. He's a highlight factory. All season long his rookie year. Mix dave even though he only wound up playing something like what thirty or forty games is going to be absolutely wild and they better make sure it's Narrated by your buddy because that guy has had a great season. Hope somebody check on him. Michael maybe to a follow up text to see. Hey you all good. May maybe sending something like that. My last question for you on lamelo and it's more of a state of the lamelo union type question. I've seen a lot of debates about like lamelo versus trae lamelo versus jaw. Like who would you rather. Have you know for the next ten years right..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"But i saw number of people who were like kind of too soon bro. They didn't like the idea of kind of campaigning. For your guy or trying to benefit at this moment of heartbreak for another franchise another fan base and organization so thumbs up or thumbs down on the immediate campaigning for awards. Following an injury. What is what's the appropriate time line. How long should russell have waited before saying that. I have absolutely no problem with russell. Tweeting that i did not see the tweet. You're bringing it to my attention right now in real time but i mean there should be some sort of delay. You can't just do it when the guys like on hospital bed michael. No time like the present. I mean you know tomorrow is not promised to any of us. I i way to do it. I think it's the way that i'm coming at it right like for example i think did he like did he. Did he like quote. Tweet and be like anthony edwards our roi or tweet. I just think he tweeted the guys. You know his his And then he said rookie of the year. And i think it was one of those. You know sh- Emoji faces we kind of like. Don't be sleeping on him or whatever they're trying to say with that. Who knows the kids. These days michael but it was just quick. I think was what upset people. There is a way to do it. I mean wouldn't you at least say like wow incredible rookie season from lamelo ball. You know but we've got a great guy here in minnesota with anthony edwards. Who's going under the radar. There might be a way to do it. For example. When i was writing up the news i still think lamelo is going to make first team all rookie and i think he actually still has kind of a shot to win. Rookie of the year. I'm not going to rule it out. I think it's more likely than not that somebody else gets it. But he's still somewhat in the mix and you remember that crazy embiid versus brogden debate. That popped up new years ago when he was only played. Like thirty games or something that it was still like made it. You know fairly interesting. That year i could see something similar developing just because lamelo was at a completely different level in terms of impact especially once he moved to that starting lineup compared to everybody else in his class all right on a more serious note. What do you do if you're charlotte here. Michael you wanted to make the playoffs. Because michael jordan always wants to make the playoffs lamelo as your coach said is driving a lot of these victories. Do you still just try to go forward with the same plan and hope that you've got enough other talent. And maybe guys like gordon hayward and terry rozier. Who weren't getting as much attention. Because of mello's now get a little bit more attention nationally for their roles and and kind of helping charlotte along. Do you pull the plug a little bit here and say well if we don't have lamelo kind of what's the point. Maybe trying to play for some draft picks. I mean what do you do here. What's your outlook for the next two months. You just kind of walk around with your hands in your pockets in your head down and listening to kinda sad taylor swift breakup music and just imagine what could have been like. Where do you go with this. Yeah i mean. It's obviously a bummer. I you know the standings are so tight and even though lamelo. His numbers aren't like the hornets have been better all year when he's not on the floor. And even if you just kind of isolate the last fifteen games..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Shift gears. No michael to this lamelo ball injury because it was just gutting you can tell from the kind of commentary from their coach. James borrego about the light. He was in the locker room the infectious spirit that he had how he contributed to winning. That is just such a bummer. For them i think it also is a situation where he was the runaway winner for rookie of the year he could still potentially win it but i'm not sure he will. You don't think so. Now now i don't i i mean. Put them respect and anthony edwards name like i anthony edwards has been. The numbers aren't super great but he's nineteen years old so i don't really care that much about the numbers like when you watch him play. You're like this students going to be superstar. He is ridiculous. So michael you know how almost every episode you're like can i give you a weird stat and i'm always like yes. That sounds great. Can i flip this around for you. Are you ready for a weird stab. I'm delighted. There is a chance that anthony edwards could win rookie of the year while having the fewest wind shares of any player in his draft. Class all we need to have happen. All we need to have happen is pokou in oklahoma city. Go on a little bit run because right now anthony edwards second to last in wind shares. Poku is dead last. But it's fractional a very small difference. Isn't that incredible. Like i was looking up because i was thinking Well obviously halliburton quickly. There's some guys who are going to be in this rookie of the year mix Given that lamelo is going to be out for. Basically the next two months assuming and of course edwards has had some real momentum here lately forty plus points really showing the type of scoring game. Michael that you were telling us to like hold on and wait for you know earlier in the season where there were some real struggles for him and so that was paying off right on schedule and i was thinking like Well edwards does stuff the stats sheet on occasion. He should be up there like fairly well. Nope second to last in wind shares among his draft class. It of course. He's playing for a team. That doesn't have an awful lot of wins. So that's a contributing factor. As well. But i couldn't believe that that is a ridiculous dad Thank you from the man appreciate it. I knew that his advanced numbers were absolutely atrocious. Like real plus minus and raptor. And just all of them but to just compare him strictly to rookies and him be that bad in one One metric is really interesting. But i do think that like it's so exciting to watch him play In particular the way that he compliments karl anthony towns and vice versa. It just like if i was a timber wolves fan. It'd be super excited. Like i would have a reason to be excited about the future. I don't know what they do at the ngelo russell but If i was at for an office that'd be like okay. We have to legitimate building blocks. We need to have. Every decision revolve around how we can. Accentuate these two and how they Coexist on the court. Because i just think like they are like a pick and roll with those two is going to be unguardable in two years and so So yeah i'm just really high on them. And i'm really excited when i watched them play. Michael i get a mr manners etiquette ruling on it. Diangelo russel tweet because within hours after lamelo injuries surfaces on sunday russell tweeted something along the lines of you know anthony edwards rookie of the year. And i think he was trying to stand up for his teammate..
LaMelo Ball Is Out Indefinitely With a Wrist Injury
"Ball rookie of the year favourite for charlotte took a really bad fall. You could see him grabbing his wrist or in the game wo zhe and everybody saying fractured wrist. Isan such a bummer. Because he was so exciting to watch made the hornets kinda league past favorite team. How exciting they were with hayward and rosiere devante grandma's back. Pj washington but Bummer news lamelo going to miss the rest of the year.
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"I've been saying this since december for you. Are you officially on the bandwagon. Does that mean you're going to have a float now. I want i watched Blake his first basket As brooklyn that was a dunk. And i was just like this is just too much. It's just too much team so let me ask you a bunch of open floor. Globe members reached out after he made that doc and they're like is this the clearest example of player tanking that we've ever seen a guy going out of his way to go more than a year without dunking so much so that it becomes headline news on television programs. His very first game his very first basket he's blowing by a guy on the perimeter and rising up for a very authoritative finish. I mean this is not like. Hey i'm a fifty five year old guy who can still kind of get the ball above the rim. You know we see those videos go around on social media. Every once in a while this was an also wasn't to be honest peak blake griffin two thousand twelve. Either but it was a nice dunk gone. It was quite the coincidence. Did you feel like this was player. Tanking are we seeing that in action right now. You know how. I feel about the player tank when the players can kind of manipulate themselves from one market to another by maybe not putting out max effort in certain situations. Is that what we saw. I mean i was. This is why. I was bullish about blake in brooklyn. I thought he would be rejuvenated. Thought he would look like a different player. it's not like he dropped fifteen in his debut. he was otherwise. I mean he had a block on bradley beal. There was actually like kinda stunning. But it's not like he was. You know as you said. It's not like he was peak. Blake athletically or anything like that. I i do. Think that being surrounded by harden and i really and joe harris all the space that he's had on that particular play did him well and served him well. But now i. I do think that you know he was not. We're going to see a different version of him over the next few months than we saw the last few months. That's for sure to thoughts. First of all. I really hope joe harris gets to cash in on the role player gets random. Endorsement deals thing as this brooklyn You know movement kind of gains momentum right because we've seen guys like coups mma or other role players on on various title teams storm the past really carve out nice niches for themselves. Joe harris is really good and he is just absolute killer. Any fits perfectly with that..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"My guests are business leaders politicians and reporters driving the day's biggest stories. Joined by jalen. Rose bill ackman. Thank you so much. Senator amy klobuchar. Thank you dan steven soderbergh andrew yang. Thank you. it's a pleasure you can find. Axios recap on apple or spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. What's up open floor. This is benghazi with the washington post. I am joined on the other line by michael. The pod pena of sports illustrated. Now michael you. And i tape about one hundred podcast a year. They can't all be good. News happy podcasts. And unfortunately i feel like this one was kind of a nightmare scenario over the weekend for the nba. You look around boom one day. Lebron james goes down with a high ankle sprain. Boom the next day lamelo ball. Probably the most exciting rookie. We've seen maybe outside zion williamson in. The last. five years goes down with a fractured wrist. And now we're all sitting around looking at an mba in advance of the trade deadline. That's missing an awful lot of star players. I think steph curry got injured recently. Joel ebeid's obviously been out. Kevin durant may never return. Hopefully at some point we get to watch katie. Play basketball michael. It's been a really tough run from the injury perspective. And i think the only place to start here really is with lebron james and the impacts on the los angeles lakers titled defense. Now i'm going to start this off with kind of an open ended question for you michael. And you know apologies. Kind of the The crude framing here but on a one to ten scale. How screwed are the los angeles lakers right now because if you go back to before valentine's day they were absolutely cruising looking like easily the championship. Favourite right now. They're in a situation where they still don't know precisely. When anthony davis is going to return to the lineup with his calf injury and now lebron could miss something like a month. Potentially with a high ankle sprain which is certainly a more severe injury than your typical ankle. Sprain they're going to try to make with guys like dennis schroder kyle kuzma mantras herrell. And they're going to really lean on their defense which has been really strong so far this season. But this is the nightmare. Scenario for frank vogel. So what do you think. Michael one to ten. How screwed are the los angeles lakers right now. So i see this question. Through two separate lenses the first is obviously..
Jazz set records for 3s in 132-110 rout of Hornets
"The Utah Jazz used a three point shooting barrage proposed a one thirty two one ten win over the Charlotte Hornets Donovan Mitchell led the jazz in scoring with twenty three points and handed out eight assists as Utah rallied from an eleven point deficit in the second half finally taking control with a twenty six two run George the young scored twenty one points on seven of seven three point shooting well Joe Ingles also had seven three point field goals for twenty one points as a jazz converted on twenty eight three point shots in the game Gordon Hayward and LaMelo ball each scored twenty one points for the Hornets I'm Jim Bernard
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"How many minutes but she has improved so much over the course of the Season where I feel like you could put this on borregas he wasn't improved but he really is well, here's the thing Rego was an assistant for seven years with the Spurs right around the time when Tony Parker came in the league and we all can probably remember that pop of it's just tortured Tony Parker for a job. Two in the beginning of his career to to force him to the way he wanted to play it works out, you know it did and it looked like Reagan was doing the same exact play book, but then something change I got to look and see if it was an injury now from somebody else and they just sort of decided to let it let him go. Thank God because if they were who knows if how the Mellow would have reacted to that kind of treatment for like a year and half straight from a coach right by the way that happened with. Oh Byron Scott did this to who did you do it too often? It wasn't Alonzo. Was it? No, it was what's his face? Was it the Angelo Russel? Yes, and the Angela Russell member, he'd be like in the Press going. I don't know what the heck they want me to do. Like they say this thing here. They say this in the Yankee here. They asked me there. I mean that listen that's that's a whole other issue because that guy just got some issues himself as far as culture and being, you know a good teammate, whatever but wage. But that was like this Ground Zero perfect example of like what that old school mentality is on how to develop players in this league. Not that you want to let go mellow just go and don't say anything to him, you know, not a care or whatever he makes mistakes, but there's a certain amount of development that's necessary in an environment where you know, the Hornets are not expected to win a ton of games or get to the second round the playoffs. Let the guys play when I was returned. My my the CEO of my company there was a general manager who was very, you know, tried to be old school Corporate America at a company and you know, his motto was know your personnel right know who you can push know who you need to prop. You know, what let me know you need to Corral because if not, you're going to push the wrong person and it's not going to help you get to your angle. We're trying to achieve accomplishment of wage. The championship here, and if you're going to push a guy and he's going to react negatively then you wasted your excuse me wasting.
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Would push back tone not be like the idea of forcing them into this like this toxic situation and like what Kobe would do or Michael Jordan would do in the name of getting them till 4 is not the way to do it certainly now and that most of those guys I think had it didn't like they had it could very well be like either DNA or their parents thought I mean, I don't know if you can force that on this somebody else who doesn't necessarily have it like that to begin with. I think I think you can learn more than you can teach you can you can learn what time? Is in and Incorporated more than you can teach someone to be tucked, you know, some some people should toughen this come from neglect some people toughness come from, you know, they see examples of the father, you know, he might come in, you know, he might goddamn put a cover-up bullet wound in front of them and they like damn they don't hurt. He was like no my dad is so tough. I remember that so nothing can hurt me off. Sometimes it can be learned and picked up and you you just show you, you know, you'll give yourself examples of yourself. When you you might have got her to hit your head you like. Well, what's the overlap in the Venn diagram of toughness and confidence confidence or or competitive? You also have to be okay pressure is going to do one thing. I mean two things it's either going to burst upon or it's going to make a diamond. You have to know who you are, right? You have to figure out who you are. If you don't somebody else will tell you who you are, you know what I mean, when you know, they talk about the type of guy that she want to get into a ship right or you know, you hear announcer not an outfit of a play-by-play guys say, you know, that's the guy I wouldn't be want to get caught in the dark alley going up against or black type of guy if I'm going into a dark alley. I want I want him to be with me because I know no matter what situation presents us..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"He doesn't practice that right certain people. It's a Swagger. It's an instinct. If you get people that play the game thirty years and then they do a move that they never done before because it's like I was feeling that way like certain people think they believed this creativity and just you know, like like James Harden revolutionising the step back. I mean you have to want to do something creative that's never been strong and daring and you have to have the audacity kind of you know, yeah, the only person love to white chocolate real quick Jason Williams and you know his his when he threw the ball off home. Opa exactly have done it before in practice but never in a game but it was when he did it in practice. He said it was spontaneous. Like when when you spend hours and hours and hours around the game something about you and especially as a PG when you're spending hours and hours and hours, which is volume your hand your you understand what you're capable of I used to put about Bob behind my head a lot because I understood that that was the last place that a Defender was looking to you know, tried to swipe the ball off and it works it works so much, but that's something that I developed and you know, of course guys are going to try it. But you know, I've been doing it for the last three four months. You just watched me do it and now you're going to try to replicate in your 15 minutes. It's not going to work but it it's the Love of the Game, you know, he was talking about you're taking away something else from a skilled job. You know when practicing something and you're not putting it in Your Arsenal, I'm sorry when you're practicing something and you're putting it in your home. It doesn't become from a spontaneous play you try to make it happen in the game. And you know, it's like bouncing the ball off somebody's head. You can't think about doing that that has Exactly. I want to ask you a question of something kind of like tied back to the Mellow ball story. I think that that's anything about lamelo ball was wage. I don't know if you guys remember Kimbo Slice. He was like this YouTube sensation where he got in the street barrel and he decided to go UFC and everyone was kind of doubting like will he be able to translate into you know actual like UFC fighting and I don't know how that went. But I think the whole fascination with lamelo ball and Lonzo ball were like, they're these Instagram Sensations. Well, they be able to translate into NBA game, but I think one thing that kind of had an advantage was was playing in the Europe and I think you know from what I've experienced like players that come over from Europe like Manu Ginobili or or Luka doncic as they have a different kind of like a different way of playing that they develop in Europe and it cut their technique kind of bleeds over to the NBA like people adapt it like James Harden or Dwayne Wade using the Euro Step. Or Luka doncic as passing. I think there there there's a different kind of play..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"You know, a master in Europe, you know, and was before that of this passing the ball and you have to wonder if like, can you teach that or do the coaches say they simply shrug and be like, oh we got one wage. This year that does that and we don't know why I don't know how we're going to enjoy it, but we're not to be able to replicate that and that's a big question cuz I almost feel like there is a way right you could teach guys to throw no look passes, right? Yeah, you can you can you can teach guys to become a better passer, but you have to okay so first and foremost My favorite player growing up was Magic Johnson. Now, I only caught the tail end of Magic's career but a kid from Inglewood California Magic Johnson just goes right off there has to be something that's kind of inspired by these passes, right? You have to kind of want to make these you are passes when you're talking about the game of basketball a lot of these kids grow up now. We're in a Kobe Bryant LeBron James Steph Curry Trae young maybe. It it depends on who the superstars are like we're going to see a bunch of nutmeg's from you know, seven seventh graders and eighth graders after the virus, you know what I mean? It's because that's who they're watching on T. So they're going to see you know, they're going to be trying to do nutmegs like like trade or you know, Luka Luka does have that kind of Passing in his gift. So maybe we will see that but you can't there has to be a small desire and then it can be developed. I don't you just put that into you know, how long I talked to Trey Yuen about that last year when I was in LA about the nutmegging because you know, I'm like yeah, there might be times when it is the fundamental way to make that pass or make that play cuz it'll run it down and keep dribbling and I am I said you do practice that and he looked at me like no, I just do it and it's like wow, how do you how do you have the balls to do that in a NBA game without actually like practicing maybe most being allocated to him and he does a little bit but like that's the thing. I why not just devise a drill where you come down Sutter step and then just triple it between your guy's legs gave way in which also reminds me of bojan bogdanovic in the Utah versus the Bucks game. He had a play where I think it was Steven Chen so dies for a a skip pass that was going to Bol Jaan and in the air boyo..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"I feel like people looked at him like he'd be a tray young level bad Defender and really like Charlotte runs that zone when he's in I don't know exactly what zone it is, but it's he's not God awful when you're watching him in that zone. He's committed to it. He gets Steals and I know that as I mean everything but he's much a much better Defender than I feel like everyone thought he'd be. Oh, yeah, I mean not dead. I I'm not saying he to defend my point. I wasn't saying that he is a bad Defender but to be an elite player in this job in this league. I feel like what is going to separate you because I'll save simply everybody can score at this point. The game has changed and evolved so much the defensive being where you're going to set yourself apart. You looking to LeBron James Kawhi Leonard Giannis antetokounmpo. You're going to set your yourself apart on the defensive end. But yeah that and speaking to that outlet pass. I mean whooping, you know, it's kind of one of those things that either it's Trent and shout out to Levar because he's a hell of a basketball shoes and you know the braggadocio and the bravado a lot of people don't like it, but you can't deny his skills as a basketball trainer and the things that he's caught dead. You know what? I want to actually appraise it for the most is these kids are respectful. They're unselfish. You know, they they never look at the referee the wrong way, you know or complain about uh, they never did that in high school, which is really impressive because High School reps can just be the, you know dumbfounded by what the calls they make and and they never ever gotten any situations where that was a problem. So, I mean that's that's amazing and all the things that we complain about a you and the kids these days and all kind of stuff. It's like he has these three kids that are all business. They they they're you know, so respectful the game and I want to make sure like that. That is all about because that's really impressive, you know, especially from a guy who looks like from the outward presentation in terms of Levar that you would think the kids should be running wild and crazy and have you know would be real hard to to coach. In fact, it's the opposite..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Don't really watch it that closely but I've seen in other like YouTube videos and stuff how like you kind of changes a set point sometimes and like stuff like that. But I mean that flies is called the time. Well that by the way, that's also a notion of variability as far as you know, my buddy Tommy over the be biomechanics on Twitter. If you don't follow him, we're always interacting and when he trains players, I never seem to find her, you know, Bass. Trainer than him and he works on the variability of set points are hand placement because in game that you need to be able to have that will happen in the course, especially off the dribble with change quickly and you can train your nervous system to be used to those different variations. So I think that's almost like a good thing as long as your training it properly. But again, he said he's figuring it out. I mean, this is a long enough stretch for me when you get to eight or ten games where you know, you shoot that. Well, that's that indicates something that's not just a fluke but we got Jason wants to come in there and talk to I'm doing a new thing everybody in all at once for the stage. So let's say let's chop it up, but see what's up Jason. Hey what's going on? So I wanted to basically say that the metal is the most complete player of all the brothers defensively he has work to do but because he's been the youngest brother and has that has had the longest time. To develop seeing the things that were wrong in and modules gave me Angeles game and he's also have the time to mature age. You know Lonzo was first, you know, so when you know you go from you know, maybe your dad making $150,000 a year to your brother make it worth million dollars a year and you know your dad having a part of that and you guys move into a different house and they have to move to Europe and you know, the the Triple B brand was making a lot of money it forced him to kind of grow up. And so there was a, you know, they were talking about wage yesterday. I was in a room and they were saying well, you know, you were trying to talk about it a little bit to the kind of fancy free or too cool for school type attitude and I think that has dead. Finished overtime because you know having to go to Australia and the different stops along the road has forced him to grow up. And so I think he will be when it's all said and done multiple All-Star and I think he actually saved the Charlotte Hornets Brett Charlotte Hornets franchise. Oh, I agree. I mean the Hornets are now a team that you want to watch and they were already kind of developing that on their way with Devonte Graham..
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"I do on the new Locker Room app. So if you have an iPhone or iPad download locker room, follow me at bballbreakdown and you can call into the show and discuss anything NBA you like my show is every Wednesday at 11 a.m. Pacific time and every Sunday at 9 a.m. Pacific. Hope to see you there. And in the meantime, enjoy the great conversation. Hey sports fans coach Nick here and welcome to this Sunday discussion over on the locker room app. I am now posting these until onto the podcast as well. So we got much bigger audience there once I post it. So if you want to come on and chop it up with me then, you know, you'll know you have even more ears over there as well, which should be I think an exciting thing so long welcome one. Welcome all as you guys start streaming in here. We're going to talk a lot about a lot of things today as I was getting prepared today for the show some interesting things were happening. I dropped the video. I had a breakdown the jazz versus the guy showed the Jazz just beeped. I'm going to tell you right now I drop the video. But anyway, I did a video on the Jazz were looking at their offense and whether or not they're for real. So we going to talk about that for a while. They beat the Bucs we can actually fold that into the box a little bit maybe if you want to and I was also prepping a video on Friday, which I'm probably going to drop off. Probably tomorrow. I think I may not have time to finish it up today. But tomorrow on my Melo ball which is the title of the show because I think it's time it's time to talk about that. Well, you might have been in the show or into the the room last night. I ended up jumping into someone else's room. And like I don't know we went for like an hour or two hours or something in the middle of the night. I was kind of cool so locker room was a way to go home and even you know, if it broke out into like discussions about, you know politics it's crazy. So anyhow, don't forget I want you to I want to hear from you. So I please request to speak. I might even invite you to speak why not and see if you take the bait either way, but let's let's had that discussion as soon as you're ready and it's nice Sunday morning. Let's let's I don't know if she got with the Mellow let's do it. Lamelo ball. There was a lot of hand-wringing for the first I don't know eight or ten games this season. He was shooting pretty badly and every dog Thinking. Oh my God. This is the bus. There was a waste of third pick this and that whatever..
2021 NBA Draft Big Board
"Time to do some updates on the big board and like i said before these big boards are based off a consensus at the end of the day between nba scouts. General managers. that. I'm talking to right now about where they have. These guys ranked them not ranking them. According to team needs this is not a mock draft and for the most part those nba scouts and general managers win the day. If i disagree with them but everybody has a guy higher than me then. He goes higher If there's a tie sometimes then you know. I may come in and put my finger on the scales but what i'm trying to do here is report. What i think is the general consensus from nba teams. And i want to start with the top five because these top five right now. I will do my tears column towards the end of the draft right before the draft happens usually about a week or two before the draft. But if i were to do it today i would say that. There's as many as five guys who are looking like tier one guys if you remember from last draft when i did my tears column. I personally didn't have any guys in tier one talking to nba teams and be scouts. While there was guys that got votes for tier one. Like lamelo ball. Anthony edwards james wiseman ultimately none of them got the fifty percent threshold to move into tier one. If i if i were betting man right now and for that particular survey to a pretty wide swath of nba teams and general managers and scouts. I'm thinking that there might be as many as five tier one prospects in this draft right now. So we'll start at the top. He was number one a big board. One point oh he stays number one here in big bore two point okayed cunningham. The point forward freshman out of oklahoma state. Who who's been really everything that he was advertised to be as the one of the most complete players in the draft who plays one of the most important positions in the draft wing. He's averaging eighteen points a game six rebounds a game nearly four assists the game one and a half steals a game. He shooting thirty nine percent from three. Which i think was definitely one of the swing skills for kate cunningham. That teams had coming in. How well of an outside shooter is he going to be and so far. The numbers look really good on that end. If there's an issue with kate cunningham right now and i think it's an interesting one. It's that he has not been a particularly careful with the ball. He's averaging three and a half turnovers a game which is which is pretty high and he has a lot in this oklahoma state offense. They rely heavily on him which means at times. He's forcing things. But that's the one red flag. If i'm looking at you know just sort of overall the numbers and what's going on where the red flag might be. It's that again. Three point five turnovers jumps to about three point eight in this per thirty six. And that's the one that i would that i would be careful about watching because his reputation coming in was that this is one of the steadiest playmakers that you're going to find his ability to see the game to be afford leader very high and that assist to turnover ratio is really the only major war that i can really see on statistical profile right now and again. I think you have to caveat that some by the fact that you look at the team that he's playing on and how teams can really game plan for him every night that there are reasons why i think that cunningham might not have the highest assist to turnover ratio at least one that we would expect.
"lamelo ball" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Well, he's not shooting. Well, he's throwing the ball over higher than probably I think it's career-high almost a career-high and turnovers. So what are you seeing anything specific that you can talk about? Definitely. So let me start off by saying that I thought coming into the season that Russell Westbrook was still top 15 player. He was my favorite player and not stories, but he has given me a lot of frustration. I thought with Bradley Beal and you know, they've got the snipers with the times and even bright like he's gone down. Brian has missed the season now, he'll have an ACL but I just really really thought that if you could get Russell Westbrook in positions to score and be successful that Washington would just be pissed off like I know they had no defense they got no Defenders, but if you going to offset that like they could kind of just play really really fast paced Westbrook's scoring to speal scoring three s. It's not like that at all like their offense is so inefficient let alone like, you know, their defense is really bad, but it's like a lot of their even their place for be like we talked about life. 461 I watched average above that game and that 61 wasn't necessarily as impressive as what it seems to be because it was a lot of Bill just because Danny Green could not guard home at what Daddy Grand this too. I don't know if it's too old or expected too much of Danny Green, but he can't he couldn't hang with him. So I thought you know Bill sixty one was unnecessary sixty one that came a lot of and what you watch their offerings and it's a lot of pin down for him to shoot long tubes. Yeah. It's like I'm pretty sure that the Washington Wizards have the highest frequency of jumpers between 15 and 19 feet. Like you watch Russell Westbrook who dribbled down. He'll catch it on the right-wing I could throw a pass and he'll get back into the horse right wing and it's usually the right side. He'll take four or five jobs in a 18-footer. Like yeah wife is shooting eighteen foot jump shots, you know like to his credit. I've looked at the numbers ever since his first two games where he was a combined over 6 from 3 his show up 35% from 3 since then, so he's three balls been going in a bit like as of late, but he still shouldn't be checked shooting five, you know, and to me off Washington needs to I would I would throw up Troy Brown jr. Cuz I'm not even playing him. I'd throw in two second-rounders Robin Lopez easily cuz they're giving himself a million dollars off if the terms continues to shoot 30% from 3..
Ball, Hornets dominate Mavs' home opener in 118-99 win
"The Charlotte Hornets rout of the Dallas Mavericks in their home opener one eighteen to ninety nine so the Hornets improved the two into other mass drop to one in three Hornets built up a sixty eight fifty seven lead at halftime then put the game away with a fourteen all run to start the third went up by as many as thirty one and coasted the rest of the way hearted shot fifty one percent from the field to just thirty nine percent for the mass harness with six players in double figures led by LaMelo ball scored twenty two miles bridges at twenty points sixteen boards while the males were led by Tim Hardaway wed eighteen Bob Stevens Dallas
Thompson has torn Achilles tendon, expected to miss season
"So it's the injury everybody's talking about but with clay sadly you gotta specify which injury you're talking about. Are you talking about the one in game. Six of the twenty nine thousand finals. The last time we saw him play a game or the one suffered earlier in the week. Which is an achilles tendon. Tear he is now out. It could be if the calendars right two and a half years between games. We're looking forward to having him back at the start of the twenty twenty one. Twenty two season knick. Fidel has been all over the warriors for years and he joins us on the shell. Pennzoil performance line nick. Good morning first thing. Just the response in and around the organization on the news zubin. Everybody's just depressed excited leading into the draft. And in the fact that wiseman was there at number two he was number one on their board and and they were just really looking forward to having steph klay draymond and then plugging in wiseman and seeing what we can give them and then they range of emotions in those couple of hours before the draft and then after the draft they really couldn't even celebrate. Everybody was so sad about clay. I mean he is the guy behind the scenes with all the star power in that locker room that sets the tone for everybody else. And that's why kerr and all those players they love it and so to know that he's going to be out again for another year which just crushing for. Everybody involved nikki. Give us an insight. Into how bob myers and company dealt with the news of klay thompson literally hours before the nba draft that make their decision challenging more challenging looking at other guys like lamelo ball considering he was going to be available. Jay bob address that right afterwards instead. Look wiseman was our guy if he was there we were taken him and obviously if the emotions involved right before the big or unprecedented we. We really never seen anything like it. Before where a star player who has won titles in an organization gets another serious injury right before you gotta make a huge selection for your future but all along when you talk to people in the organization they love what wise men could give them and they're confident that once he gets into their system playing and learning alongside draymond that he can be maybe that bridge or potentially down the line Tracey's nobody knows for sure but wiseman all along was their guy in. I don't think anything that happened with. Clay change to focus when he was number two
Wolves take Edwards 1st; Wiseman, Ball go next
"With the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select anthony edwards from the university of georgia. So there is anthony edwards georgia bulldog now. A member of the minnesota timberwolves a lot of talk about the wolves might do. They've got new leadership in the front office coach. Saunders pick they have a lot of holes to fill instead they take edwards will pair him with karl anthony towns. The warriors took james wiseman second. The hornets drafted lamelo ball with the third overall pick but
"lamelo ball" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"This is ben or with the washington post. I am joined on the other line by michael. The pod pena. He's been covering the nba for five thirty eight and q. Okay cazenove mr g q. Himself michael pena. I need your help on this episode. Because we've got a whole bunch of rumors an awful lot of scuttle butt and what. I wanna do michael. I want you to help me play matchmaker. On some of the big names that are floating around out there potentially needing a a spot to land by trade potentially needing a spot to land in the nba draft. And i'm going to start with the guy who i feel like until last night. Anyways wednesday night was leading the entire nba draft and an mba rumor nba twitter circles. His name was on the top of all the lists lamelo ball on our last episode. We had talked about the pros. And cons of say the minnesota timberwolves looking at james wiseman with that number what pig could they go any other directions and it seems like there's a real You know asserted pushier now for the idea that lamelo might be the most desired name in this draft. Of course he has lonzo. Ball's younger brother he's taller. He's better on the ball He's a phenomenal passer. Like his brother. He's had a really strange journey. Lithuania ohio australia at back again. After being a big time high school basketball star here in southern california and somehow he is now the man of the moment so michael. I want you to help me start before we get into some of the. The trade names like chris paul and russell westbrook and maybe of james harden. I think we need to figure out first of all. Do you like the concept of lamelo ball. You like the player lamelo ball. Are you in on him. Are you out on him. And then we're gonna talk through where he should land. What do you think sands wonderful. Can't wait to dig it with you ben. So thumbs up thumbs down on the lamelo experience and let's not race straight to the like all of ours going to be in the way thing. I think it's a little bit of a different vibe. Now right i mean lavar was clearly a factor in lonzo's situation in the big baller brand went up in smoke lavar kind of taken a more of a back seat here. I think with lamelo allowing him to be his own man from a basketball standpoint from a you know a a makeup standpoint. Are you in or are you out on lamelo ball. My thumb is is horizontal. right now. i think it's very contextual here wherever he ends up could dictate how good of a career he has and i like a lot of his positive traits..