35 Burst results for "Lamelo"
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Tatum scores 41, White 33 as Celtics beat Hornets 127-116
"Jayson Tatum and Derek white combined for 58% of the Celtics points in a one 27 one 16 victory against the hornets. Tatum delivered 41 points in just 37 minutes. The 8th time he scored at least 40 this season. White set new career highs with 8 three pointers and 33 points in Boston's 5th win in 6 games. I'm gonna start with 6 for 6. And so just every time I shot it and it just felt great and the guys were up supporting me. The Celtics led by 28 in the third quarter and improved to an NBA best 40 and 16. Terry Rozier had a team high 27 points and LaMelo Ball added 24 with ten assists in Charlotte 6th consecutive loss. I'm Dave ferry.
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Banchero, Magic win as Hornets struggle from foul line
"Paulo banquero and Wendell Carter junior each had double doubles in the magics, one 19 one 13 win over the hornets. Bon Carroll finished with 22 points and ten rebounds. Carter added 20 points and 12 boards to help Orlando finish three in one on its road trip. I think we did a really good job of just locking the entire scalp and understanding what we had to do to get the W hornets guard LaMelo Ball scored 26 of his 33 points in the second half and hit 6 three pointers, but Charlotte shot a miserable one for 9 from the line in the fourth quarter while Orlando was 13 of 15. I'm Dave ferry.
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Tatum, Celtics roll past Hornets for 6th straight victory
"The Celtics have a 6 game winning streak after Jayson Tatum and Malcolm Brogdon combined for more than half their points in a one 22 one O 6 victory at Charlotte. Tatum provided 17 of his 33 points while Boston had scored the hornets 33 19 in the third quarter. Brockton added 30 points for the Celtics who hit 19 three pointers and erased a 16 point first half deficit. I knew that I would have to take more shots, but I wasn't I purposely was not trying to force self trust trying to get good shots. The hornet's loss for the 7th time in 8 games despite LaMelo Ball, who finished with 31 points, 9 assists and 7 rebounds. I'm Dave ferry.
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Rozier has 29, leads Hornets past sliding Cavaliers 119-98
"Terry Rozier carried the Hornets to a one nineteen ninety eight win over the Cavaliers Rosier had twenty nine points seven rebounds and seven assists picking up the offensive slack with LaMelo ball in foul trouble ball played just eight minutes and was for three from the field I said Thomas scored ten points in his debut for Charlotte which made seventeen three pointers and improved to just three and eleven since January twenty eighth Cavaliers guard Darius garland returned from a three game injury absence and finished with thirty three points in as many minutes I'm Dave Ferrie
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Bucks score 44 in 2nd quarter, roll past Hornets 130-106
"A season high forty four points second quarter carried the box to an easy win over the Hornets one thirty to one oh six Jana sought a couple led the bucs with twenty six after building a twenty three point halftime lead there was no letting up for the box in the second half guard Grayson Allen we've seen many times is have a big lead at halftime that third quarter comes around we give away so we all talk about it we all know third quarter is important the box at five players in double figures by the half drew holiday finished with twenty one Bobby Portis with twenty boards who suffered a last second loss the night before we're led by LaMelo ball's twenty for the Hornets have lost eleven of thirteen check freedom Milwaukee
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DeRozan, Vucevic lead Bulls past struggling Hornets 121-109
"The martyr Roseanne dropped in thirty six points and Zach Levine had twenty seven is the bulls dealt the Hornets their sixth straight loss one twenty one one oh nine to Rosen has averaged thirty three points over his last eleven games just going out there playing you know on understanding the moment you know just trying to finish this thing off wanted to break understand how critical these games are Nikola vucevic added eighteen points fifteen rebounds and eight assists to help Chicago get within one game of the Eastern Conference leading heat double shot fifty six percent from the field including forty eight point five percent from three point range LaMelo ball had thirty three points and nine rebounds for Charlotte which made just thirteen of forty three three pointers and is shooting twenty seven point six percent from downtown during this kid I'm Dave Ferrie
The Charlie Kirk Show
Pelosi Urges Olympic Athletes Against Angering the Chinese Government
"Nancy Pelosi has some comments here about the Olympics. Now, I don't defend Nancy Pelosi. But I think that it's actually a little bit unfair to attack her for what she said here. Minorly unfair. I think some of the criticisms towards Pelosi here have not been totally wise and I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, so Nancy Pelosi tells U.S. athletes not to speak out against the Chinese communist regime, lest they risk incurring the anger of the Chinese government. Now, she's being called a shill in the pup of the Chinese Communist Party. That's right, but I'll be very honest with you. If I was sending athletes to China, I'd be telling them the exact same thing. Unless you want them to end up as hostages like LaMelo Ball was. You gotta tell them what they're getting in for. I'm not a fan of trying. I think China is an existential enemy. So play cut 79. I would say to athletes, you're there to compete, do not risk, incurring the anger of the Chinese government, because they are ruthless. I know there is a temptation on the part of some to speak out while they are there. I respect that, but I also worry about what the Chinese government might do to their reputations to them families. Now, here's the way it should be done. Okay? First of all, why Pelosi's commenting on this? I don't get that. Is Biden should say, listen. I have given every athlete from America a green light to speak as you choose China, you lay a hand on them, you got a problem. 200% tariffs. China's now a free speech zone. Welcome to the party. That has to come from the president, not from Pelosi, I'm saying if I was just like a House of Representatives and I were like Pelosi, she's actually not wrong. That's not the point. The point is that Trump or Biden whoever was president should say, okay, we're going to go compete in your COVID zero games, you lay a hand on an American, you are not getting a product into America for a year. It's that simple. Will Rockwell rec your economy.
The NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on The NBA Show
"So a player that's kind of on the other end of the developmental spectrum in terms of how he came to the league, I feel like Anthony Edwards is kind of opposite of lamella in a way. In terms of like feel, my coming into the league, I feel like Anthony over time has these immense physical tools and that's kind of what got him here, you know? And not that lamelo doesn't have those, but they're challenges are kind of different. Do you see what I'm saying? Like where I'm going with that? Where they came from to where they are and where they're going to be going. I feel like lamelo is really, really far ahead of Anthony in terms of feel. How do you feel about that statement? Yeah, I mean, they're very different players and they're very different pass ahead of them for sure. I think that's fair to say, yeah. I mean, lamelo is clearly the more in terms of basketball IQ and feel for the games. Anthony Edwards is much more just getting buckets. I'm bigger and faster than you and I can also shoot. And I can just score it will basically. That's kind of how it plays right now. Yeah. So over the course of the year last year, it was kind of an odd year for Minnesota in terms of they had a coaching chain, some of the numbers are a little weird if you go in there and you want to read into that and I know not everybody wants to do that. But I think that ants rookie year was good. He kind of picked up momentum as we went. I always have a hard time with people really one of the cornerstone like, well actually responses to any kind of work is when people do the after the all star break. Do you ever get that from people? They're like, well, actually, after the all star break, I'm always like, yeah, but after the all star break is also a time where it seems like start resting, they start, it's kind of like what we're seeing right now in the NBA in December where it's like there's a lot of guys coming up and getting chances. But Minnesota over the course of the year kind of started to put some momentum together ant started to kind of figure it out I know Chris Finch came in and started giving Carl a different role. Same kind of deal that we did with lamelo here. What were your early impressions of aunt? Did he succeed? Did he surpass them? What were your impressions of his first year coming up to where we are now? Well, I think you hit on the main thing as when Finch came in. And if you look at the numbers once Finch became the head coach, he really pushed ant to a bigger role because right now aunt needs the ball, and if he doesn't have just kind of out there sometimes, he needs to be engaged in the game. He needs to activate his scoring. He can't just be a spot up guy. And I think Finch recognizes that empowered him a bit and his numbers started going up pretty fast once Finch took over. And I think that is carried over into this new season. I think the first question with Edwards, he's a weird player in a lot of ways, because he's not a point guard. But he's not traditional to guard either because for me, when I think traditional two guard, I think Devin Booker Bradley Beal, a guy who can play on and off the ball who runs around screens, catches and shoots. But that's not really ants game. He's a ball dominant guard who's not a playmaker. So I think the first question for me is, what kind of player is aunt anyways? What kind of school to see fall under in terms of type of player? I think you're hitting on what the kind of developmental questions are going to be for him going forward. Who he is personally. The big challenge is for me when I was profiling him his rookie year and the problems for him have been kind of the same. They've remained the same. And it hasn't been that long, so these things haven't resolved themselves. But he's a pretty insistent ball dominant player like you said, but coming along with that is that's okay if you want to be bald dominant if you're like, and he's one of those I'm a tough shot maker type players. He really, that's his DNA as a player is like he really leans on tough shot making. And his separation obviously, we've seen all this stuff about his athleticism, his otherworldly. It's like off the charts. But he's not a super, this is something I brought up in my rookie report on him last year is that he was like a pretty historically bad dribble pull up shooter last year. 27.56% in 2021 and one of the higher volume players for his age. That was one of the lower numbers in quite some time. This year, it's up a little bit to 30% on those shots. So you've got a guy who ideally would be like getting to the rim with this athleticism drawn a lot of fouls, but he's on this track of he probably should be like a primary initiator with his skill set, but the passing and the stuff isn't totally there. And we're kind of seeing those things come along slowly. He's just very, very streaky. If you go and you look at, he'll have these eruptions. It's hard to argue with people about Anthony Edwards because he'll give you these insane performances where he'll score 48 points and go 7 for 13 from three because he's so streaky, but then you look at his box scores and it's like, there's a bunch of games where he goes like two for 8, two for 7. That kind of is more consistently who he is. I think the question that you asked is just kind of hovering in the air. I honestly don't know if can he be this type of player and get to where he wants to go. Which is going to come first. The playmaking or the efficient scoring, like or does he need both? I think what you're getting at is kind of the same thing at jaylen green has when you're that athletic and you can shoot that well, you can always get a shot. It's just hard to train yourself to not take bad shots when you.
The NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on The NBA Show
"We've also seen examples of low touch time high creativity players like the birds, the magics, the guys that don't have to pound the ball, but they provide a lot of creativity and problem solving. And you still have like fluidity in your moving the ball. And I think the low touch time thing is a great point. We're talking about a touch time. And to me, I live in Dallas, Lucas my guy, but I don't think there's any question if you're a player, you'd rather play with lamelo. I think he is way more fun to play with because he's got like a hard and Luca. Their teams never run really. They're actually pretty slow paced teams because those guys want to control everything. They want to walk it up, make the most efficient play every single time. And that works really, really well, but I think it's really hard to play with guys like that. And I think you look at hard and Luca LeBron, they've had a lot of teammates who have not really liked playing with them. Like Hardin has had to shift every two years hard and basically the drop is costar. Because costar said, I don't want to play like this anymore. Obviously, Luca and KP as a whole different conversation. LeBron has had three or four different teams. I think it just gets old when you have one guy doing everything. The other guys just don't have as much fun. And I guess to bring it all around, lamella to me is the most fun player to watch in the league, because I think fundamentally, what is basketball about? To me, it's moving the ball and playing as fast as you possibly can. And that's what lamella does every single night. And to me, that's the way the game should be played. That is the point of this whole thing. My opinion. Your tea in this up perfectly, because I wanted to ask you about you and I had a conversation actually taking it way back. We had a conversation with a year ago where you and came pretty strong saying that you felt pretty strongly that even then like lamelo over John at the time, I know that ruffled some feathers. I don't feel like that's very controversial thing to say at all, but then you said something to me recently about, we were just having a conversation about the 6 or so, you wanted to throw in this group, and I thought he was maybe a little more scoring dominant. He leaned scoring a little more heavily. The score playmakers, Luca, lamelo cade, Trey, morant. I told you, I asked you, where would lamelo sit among those? Where do you think he sits among those 5 at least? Where would you put him? If you're building a team. I think first for now, I would take Kate off the list. I don't think it's really fair to rank Kate against the other guys. 'cause he's proven nothing in the NBA yet. All the other guys have got a lot of skins on the wall. Kate, I think has to be in a zone. We gotta wait and see a bit with kade. So if you go to those four, I'm always gonna lean towards size. Like the end of the day, give me the 6 foot 8 guy of the 6 foot two guy. From there, I think Lucas a better player than lamella. I mean, made clear about that. I mean, Luca is great, Dallas guy, obviously I'm a little biased. That said, I might take lamella one just because it's easier to play with them. I might, I don't know. I think most likely, Luca will have a better career. I think that may we'll see. I just think lamelo, guys are gonna wanna play with lamelo. I don't know if there's a long list of guys like dang, I wanna watch Luca hold the ball for 40 minutes complain to the refs and just Jack up shots. But I think with lamella, I think everyone's path lamelo. I think what you're the point you're making here is like ball dominance scoring versus like guys that have more fluidity play different styles like a good example of this is lamella ball attempts and makes more catch and shoot reload, relocated threes per 100 possessions than any of those guys. So meaning like, I think that passing skill sets to our role dependent sometimes for some guys, like Luca hasn't really as much as I love him and as much as I still haven't number one, but I think the argument for having a guy like a guy like lamelo hire is that a, he will fluidly go on and off the ball like I was saying and can score on and off the ball is willing to do it. His passing isn't as dependent on like I have to have the ball in my hands I don't have to be throwing a home run immediately every single time. And I think that I think that Luca and morant and TRE are that way. I don't know that I totally follow with the K thing. I personally think Kate is going to get there. I'm a kid believers still. But I think what you're right about, it's hard to compare about the scene versus the unseen. We haven't had the opportunity. And we also haven't had the opportunity to see lamelo in this kind of situation. So I was going to tee that up to ask you if I'm a team like the hornets right now are in the position to make the playoffs that could shift depending on some things how they go the rest of the year up or down with their schedule. How do you slow lamelo down though? What do you think the wall is? Because if you look at like a Luca if you look at Trey obviously with the hide has been an issue, Luca has proven that he can pick a team apart in the playoffs. How do you think teams would slow lamelo down? How do you neutralize his impact if you can? That's interesting question. And I think that's what makes him such an interesting player is because he's such a passer, it's kind of like jokic too. You can't double him. I think you want to make lamelo squirrel ultimately. I think that's that's the way I would go with it. And that was the thing with jokic chew in the playoffs earlier in his career. It was we're not going to double. We want to make you get 40 and hold everybody else down because you're passing is really your superpower. And I don't know that jokic obviously took that next step and became a dominant score too. I think if I was a team in a playoff series, I would try to single up lamelo in the half court and say, you've got to beat us as a score. I think that would be the move for me. And I think to go back to what we're saying about the way he plays. What really clicked for me is I was doing a piece on miles bridges earlier this season. And I was looking at his game log and what jumped out to me was all of his highest field goal attempt games. So looking at it right now, he's had 6 games of 21 shots or more. And 5 of those games, he shot above 50%. What that's saying is when miles bridges has it going, lamelo gets him the ball. And I think that's really what separates him from almost anyone these young point guards is the ability to read the game. And that just lets your teammates play so free because if you watch bridges, he takes a lot of shots, but he's not jacking up shots. He knows if he's hot if he has the mismatch. The ball's gonna find him. And that just makes it easier to play basketball when you know this guy is reading the floor, getting me the ball when I need it. And when I need the ball, I'm going to have it to score. And I think that's what lamelo does already. Is that ability to read the game? That basketball IQ, he's really a savant. He really is. His feel and his touch are just, they're on another level. He's really a developmental kind of anomaly in how he came up as we've said, but it shows. And I think he's really interesting thing here is that you put him in your offense and you're automatically going to get connectivity because like you were saying he isn't score dominant. But he has demonstrated that he can score. I think the shooting has kind of come around like we said 38.6% from three this year. He gets it off the glass. He's like absolutely lethal and transition. I think he's probably with jokic again like probably the best hit ahead passer in the world. We've seen that a hundred thousand times already that you sent me the one where he caught the ball under the basket and is literally leaning back on his back foot and throws just well it wasn't a dart..
The NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on The NBA Show
"Folks, basketball is very good and it is a beautiful day to talk about basketball any day that I'm talking about basketball with my co host, Jonathan sharks is a beautiful day. Sharks, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. I think it's better. Now we're back over Zoom. It's probably a better dynamic for both of us instead of being in IRL in real life. You're big on the IRL abbreviation I noticed. You know, you're big on like the text abbreviations. I didn't take you for one of those heavy millennial digital minded people because you're off social media. What's the deal with that? Well, I am still a millennial though. When we do the best we can, but we are who we are, right? We are Internet creatures. Ain't that the truth? So sharks and I just got back from Vegas. Actually, I mean, Tom flies, it's been back for a week on my wife, but we went out to the G league showcase, if you were listening last week, we were out there for that. Milling around in Vegas, watching a lot of the which was totally disrupted by the COVID call ups as we saw. The NBA has been really irregular really strange right now with all the players going into protocols. Those numbers I don't have them in front of me, but it's a lot. We've all seen it. And it was interesting to see those guys kind of come up. This week, we want to focus, we're going to come back and talk more about some of the headline names from the last couple of years. Two players who were in the same draft. I think they were there was some sort of there were a lot of mixed bag. I don't think that there was sort of a unanimous camp for either one of these guys, I would say. The first guy that we want to kind of jump in and talk about here is LaMelo Ball. LaMelo Ball, one of the most famous basketball players for his age group, really of the social media era, would you say he's the most famous basketball player? Is that possible? Like, along with like Zion? I mean him or Zion, yeah, probably. You know, lamella is on the radar really early. Mainly because of his big brother, he was he sort of looked like a Muppet with that big floppy hair that he had when he was a Chino Hills. When you first found out about him, did you kind of go through a similar process that I did where there was sort of like these levels of starting to take him more and more seriously as we went. How did you feel about lamelo during his high school days during that YouTube mixtape era? That seemed to last for a long time. I mean, it seemed like we knew him for so long before he was actually playing serious organized basketball. Talk about what your early impressions were of him like a leading up to where we are now. Well, I got to give a shout out to our old ringer colleague Danny chau. So he wrote a big takeaway piece. It actually launched the ringer. He went and talked to the ball brothers. Lamella was like in 7th grade at the time. So obviously heard about him and he's a middle schooler. I didn't know what to make of it, really. I was interested by what they were doing, the family. And I always thought, you know, I'm big believer in younger brothers and playing up. And so it's always like, okay, lamelo is playing up from the age of ten, basically. He's always playing us better competition. He's always testing himself. Iron sharpens iron. So I try to stay out of the celebrity stuff and I was just like, you know, this could be a player to watch in a couple of years because Lonzo's really good, obviously. And if Lonzo's good, then lamelo has a chance to be better. Yeah, it's an interesting thing where I feel like he was, you know, you had like the 90 point game, you've got him pointing at the spot on the floor from God knows how far away that was that famous picture. You know the one I'm talking about were calls a shot. I think some of that stuff just sort of overshadowed who he was as a player, but if you look between the lines, it was like, you're right, about the playing up, the things like that. He had developed those skills. And you see a lot of those things sort of crystallizing and who he is now as a player. A lot of that sort of odd. We've talked about this on the ringer university show last year that that odd sample that he had as a younger player made him extremely experimental, made him extremely creative. I was kind of coming into the draft, though, fast forwarding, where did you have him on your big board, like in terms of how did you see him going into the league and how did he sort of surpass your expectations? I had an aunt one lamella too. And I think that was definitely wrong. I mean, I'll answer really good player. I will talk about him later in the show, but I think pretty clearly now lamella is the best player in that draft. And he's exceeded, I was pretty high on him, and he's exceeded my expectations for sure. I wasn't sure how his scoring would translate. I wasn't sure, 'cause the passing was obvious. You could wash him for 5 minutes and say, this guy is an elite passer. He can run a team. Because he had this weird combination where he'd make these crazy passes, but his turnovers were always very low in spite of the absolutely insane passes he would attempt. That was very encouraging. It was always just a matter of is this guy going to score enough? Is the jump shot real? Can you score around the rim? Will that make up for, well, that allow him to maximize his passing ability? Kind of like we talked about with Josh Getty last week. If you're a great passer and you can't score at a certain point, that contradicts a kind of holds you back in spite of your passing. Well, I think in these two years in the NBA we've seen this, he can score well enough. He can get his buckets and move the ball around and make things happen. Yeah, I think that well enough is kind of the range where the conversation about him like going forward, where does he go from here? How does he evolve, get better? Where does his production kind of bloom and blossom? You're right, like a scoring wise right now. He's right at about 20 points per game. A desist per game. The shooting is an interesting thing because the free throw percentage I think is really interesting thing. He's shooting 91.6% from the line, getting to the line as a whole other kind of conversation. I want to kind of break this down into the areas of concern that we had for him going forward and how he sort of addressed those. You're right about the passing. Those things were always there. I was looking last night. Agree or disagree with me on this. I think that he might be him and jokic, he and jokic might be the most elite over the top placement passers in the world. I was just thinking this morning, he is a jokic level passer, but he's much, much faster, obviously. But I would say that the best two passion in the league, I think, pretty clearly. Oh, you think overall they are the best. I guess you put LeBron in there too, but those are the top three passers in the league. Harden. But so here's the thing I think what I think separates lamella and jokic from the other guys. So if you look at the tracking numbers and lamella and jokic are both in the top 5 and touches, but neither is very high in time of possession. So jokic holds a ball for 4.1 minutes a game. Lamelo is at 6. And you compare hardens at 9.2, Lucas at 9.4 Troy young's at 8.6. What's that saying is his lamella and jokic give The Rock up. Like they're passing a ton and they're not holding the ball. They're letting everybody else get involved. It's kind of like the counter to the whole heliocentric thing, your harden, Luca, Trae Young, LeBron to lesser extent. They're more of a reaction to that and saying, we're going to hold the ball, but we're also going to get rid of it really, really fast. We're not going to just dribble the bond to the ground. We're going to let everybody else eat too. Yeah, I think you're spot on right there because there are like these macro kind of conversations in the NBA about like how to play, what's the best way to play? Because we've seen I have a friend who always says there are a lot of ways to skin a cat. With NBA. First off, that's weird thing to say. Poor kids. Come on. Who are skinning these cats? That's a weird one. Drop that from your lexicon folks. No, I think over time we've seen we've seen different versions of this. We've seen like feed the ball to shack, like players who are like touch dumb and it who keep the ball a lot, but you kind of have to be in efficient score to play that way for that to justify playing that way. Otherwise, you're just going to have a bad offense..
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Jazz start fast, pull away late to beat Hornets 112-102
"Pretty pretty good good there there had had twenty twenty three three points points in in twenty twenty one one rebounds rebounds as as the the jazz jazz knocked knocked off off the the Hornets Hornets one one twelve twelve one one oh oh to to go go bare bare went went fifteen fifteen of of sixteen sixteen from from the the free free throw throw line line setting setting a a new new career career high high for for made made free free throws throws putting putting a a work work for for those those over over the the years years so so you you know know what what every every time time I I shoot shoot in in the the lawsuit lawsuit to to make make it it in in tonight tonight a a good good opportunity opportunity to to get get to to the the line line a a lot lot so so it it was was a a it it was was a a great great boy boy and and Bogdanovich Bogdanovich added added twenty twenty three three points points for for the the jazz jazz who who blew blew a a twenty twenty two two point point lead lead but but finished finished strong strong to to snap snap a a two two game game home home losing losing streak streak Donovan Donovan Mitchell Mitchell chipped chipped in in twenty twenty one one points points in in the the victory victory LaMelo LaMelo ball ball led led Charlotte Charlotte with with twenty twenty one one points points and and eleven eleven assists assists before before fouling fouling out out in in the the final final minute minute I'm I'm Dave Dave very very
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Lonzo Ball helps Bulls beat LaMelo Ball's Hornets, 133-119
"The the call call of of the the switch switch had had a a double double double double with with a a season season best best thirty thirty points points and and fourteen fourteen boards boards in in the the bulls bulls won won thirteen thirteen one one nineteen nineteen down down into into the the Hornets Hornets the the martyr martyr Roseanne Roseanne accounted accounted for for twenty twenty eight eight points points Zach Zach Levine Levine had had twenty twenty five five and and Chicago Chicago shot shot a a season season high high fifty fifty nine nine point point six six percent percent from from the the field field the the bulls bulls also also won won the the battle battle of of the the ball ball brothers brothers with with Lonzo Lonzo improving improving two two two two one one one one and and three three NBA NBA meetings meetings with with a a mellow mellow Lonzo Lonzo finished finished with with sixteen sixteen points points and and eight eight assists assists while while a a mellow mellow had had eighteen eighteen points points and and thirteen thirteen assists assists Terry Terry Rozier Rozier poured poured in in thirty thirty one one points points in in Gordon Gordon Hayward Hayward had had twenty twenty two two for for the the Hornets Hornets on on the the ferry ferry
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Banner night for Heat, who hang on and top Hornets 114-99
"Jimmy Butler poured in thirty two points in the heat wasted most of a twenty six point lead before posting a one fourteen ninety nine win over the Hornets bam Adebayo had twenty six points and nineteen rebounds on the night his Olympic gold medal banner was unveiled in Miami Tyler hero scored twenty six points off the bench for the heat who enjoyed a sixty thirty seven rebounding advantage Gordon Hayward scored twenty three points and miles bridges had twenty two for Charlotte Hornets guard LaMelo ball struggled with his shot hitting just two of fourteen from the field I'm the ferry
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Down? I remember. We know that. But he got hurt and he missed a bunch of time and I wonder if he's kind of easing back into the physicality. What you mentioned is a frail frame, which I agree with. He's going to be 15 pounds heavier, probably three years from now, right? He'll put on weight, he'll be he'll look bigger and stronger. I do like how he bounces against guys sometimes. And I think ja has the same quality, right? Josh is he'll go into bigger dudes, he'll take the contact and then he'll kind of decide what to do. And I have seen lamelo do that. And I think that's a really rare skill too, because, you know, some guys, they bounce off you and then they're flying and that's it. Lamelo sometimes seems like he likes it. Then other times I feel like it isn't what the contact at all. I bet on Charlotte for the over. They were one of my locks when resilient house and I did the pick. I think it was like 37. And, you know, it's like a is Hayward going to play. How many games am I getting from him? When they have Hayward, seems pretty good. And I think that's why the east is so confusing this year. And that's why I'm worried about the Celtics. Honestly, because even if Tatum was probably the best guy out of the 5 or 6 guys in that pack, it might not matter. It might just be a really deep conference that has a bunch of teams that are a little bit above 500 and then it'll come down to injuries and dumb losses, you know? And I think Charlotte has at least in that mix. I think they're in there with a team like the next and the Celtics and a whole bunch of those teams. I don't really see a lot of separation anymore until you get to the Orlando and Detroit, which were clearly just way below everybody else. Other than that, I don't know, even like the wizards. The wizards aren't bad. They have a lot of professional basketball players. They could rebound. They could shoot. They play hard, they seem like they like each other. Like, they kick the shit out of the Celtics last night. So yeah, so I don't know how it plays out for Charlotte, but they have a chance to make the playoffs, I think. I think I would take it a step further. I just think the league is just I'm not getting I had this same thought last night that you go down and you just look at the teams and the talent pool in the league is just deeper than it's ever been. And I think that like the temperature, the water level has kind of I don't know what the right metaphor is. But like it's the standard stasis of what is an NBA player has kept coming up. And I think that we iterate every year and what the level of player that comes into the league is a little higher each year. You know, like whereas and I think that if you look like historically, you can kind of see that that as we go and as more people play basketball, I just think that we have such an incredible crop of like young players coming in. And I think it's just going to continue. So to the point where the worst teams aren't going to be as bad anymore. Maybe the distance between 30 to one is still going to be there, but I think that what teams are capable of and the individuals on every team because you're right, you go down through there and it's even Orlando that's not really the best team. They have some guys. They're on a night. It's just not as pitiful as it was. Like when I was growing up in the 90s, you know, there was some teams where it's just like or the mid 2000s is the worst. I remember there was one trade value year. I couldn't even get to 40. I think I'd like to put guys that I didn't even want to put from 35 to 40. I think there's a couple reasons for it. I think one guys are able to play longer now. So the talent pool is automatically a little swollen because of the guys in their mid 30s or later. And people like LeBron and Carmelo, who 15 years ago would have been out of the league by now or LeBron would have been at different point of his career. Carmelo would have been gone. You just see Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul. These are guys that just shouldn't still be at the level there, but the way the aging process works now. See if that pool, we don't have the drug stuff anymore. Like we had in the 80s where the drugs wiped out a bunch of people. We don't have the in the 90s, you had The Rookie scale. We didn't have it yet. And a bunch of guys got paid too much too soon and some of them just didn't make it, you know, in ways that they should have. And I've written about that. The Kenny Anderson types. And injuries. So injury recovery is better now, right? So guys can come back from things. Maybe they couldn't come back from. Things can get identified faster. So now, now that pool is better, just who's healthy. And then I think the specialty stuff really extends the player pool because you have people who are just shooters and you have people who are just rim runners. And, you know, so that's like an extra 20 jobs too. This is the first time I've ever felt like they could have 32 teams. I think they could do it. I think they could add Seattle in Vegas. And I don't think the league would suffer. Yeah, Louisville. I don't think the league would suffer, though. I really think they have enough talent now. I think I agree with you and I think that another thing too is just that the spread of the availability of information I've talked to you about this with you about this before, but just like the availability of information in basketball players is higher than it's ever been because if you look at it in like the fandom and sort of the analysis of the game mirrors this in a way that I think that the coverage and the fans following the league are smarter than ever. The availability of information is super, super high. And if you're a young player, like when I was growing up playing, you know, I played athlete my entire life. I think I started 5 years old, but for me, video of basketball, it was so much harder to find. And I had the conversation with one of my nephews or my nephew about this and he was.
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
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BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Houston literally had to throw out their entire offensive playbook and get rid of capella to make that happen. Right. Right. Thanks so much to make Westbrook effective in that type of atmosphere. It's interesting. And I'm so curious to see how LeBron is going to handle that win. It's Russ's man who's just sagging in the paint. Yeah. Absolutely. Cutting from the corner like the way wood and yeah. No, it's a combination. It's both. It's the shots he's going to take and the threes and the sagging off. And then, you know, the defense of stuff, too, what to find out whether or not that can get better with him out there or not. But like, you know, and then but it's also the personalities as well. Russ is not going to stand anybody criticizing him or getting on him, even if it is LeBron, right? I can't imagine that happening. So, but who knows? Maybe they're all long in the tooth, getting up there in age, and they're going to behave like good teammates. So we shall see, but I don't know. We have a lot of other people here in the show. Yeah. All right, so I'm a huge Charlotte hornets fan. And there was a point in time last year. I want to say right after lamelo became a starter like a fishy, I just felt like three games. Well, I honestly was watching, and I couldn't name like, I wanna say ten point guards better than him. I had a good point of the season. With his land, his passing ability, he's so creative off the dribble, all that stuff. And I think people are kind of underrated in the leap. I think he's going to take with the full keys to the offense next year. So I just wanted to give your thoughts on, you know, how am I going to develop next year in the young talent that got brought over there? Oh, for sure. Well, here's the thing like, you know, the highlights speak very loudly for a guy that, you know, that age is a rookie. But if you did dive through all the footage, you're gonna see lots of, you know, problematic stuff that a typical rookies go through officially that position. So it wasn't like he was charmed and like they had the most amazing rookie year of all time. He had his share of clunkiness as well. So which is good. But expect that to happen for a guy like that. And the good part about that is that there is a lot of upside. And there's no question that you'll build upon that. And he'll reduce some of the mistakes and then the next year and we'll do some more. He's on a trajectory to be an all star without question. And one of the most entertaining players out there right now, it's funny because I say this all the time, Lonzo must be looking at that like upset because they pretty much eliminated all that from his game, right? They don't let him into a shooting guard basically when he needs to be there. They need to be like a new position invented for that. I suppose with lamella, it is a bit of a sort of traditional point guard Magic Johnson style guard..
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"What trajectory is LaMelo Ball on? Can the kings figure it out? Does the NBA suffer from boring offense? The only question left is, say it with me, you win. He's sports fans, coach Nicki and welcome to the bee ball breakdown live greenroom show. I am coming at you both on the green room and YouTube side. I think I sort of figured it out. I believe it or not, the weird solution was to half plug in the quarter inch Jack into my soundboard. And that somehow got the good sound from my iPad out into my computer. Maybe somebody who knows about audio can explain why that seems to work, but we'll find out with the old phantom power from my nice mic. And then the plugin power with plugin audio from the iPad. Very strange, but I think it'll work..
Mason & Ireland
LaMelo Ball Rumored to Be Dating 32-Year-Old Instagram Model
"Lamelo ball is nine thousand nine hundred. He's the reigning nba rookie of the year. He is the younger brother of lonzo any plays for the charlotte hornets. He is now dating a thirty two year old instagram model anna montana and they were seeing together in a date which is led many fans criticizing montana for dating someone a lot younger than her. The word predatory is being used a lot of these. She's thirty two he's nineteen. What do you think i'm fine with. It lindsey what are you guys. These guys are these guys yeah. They're grown men. They can make these decisions. You wanna know what nineteen a grown man. You've lived overseas lithuania when you were sixteen. Or whatever he was he's he's been all over the world he's been. I mean he's should be worldly by now now. He made a big stink in that article about not going to college. And i didn't need to learn anything there and yada yada yada so make about what you will but i just think he's having the kid who cares you. Don't let them go. Let them get married. Or if he's gonna get married making planet pre-nup but
Terry Meiners and Company
Terry Rozier Agrees to Four-Year, $97 Million Extension With Charlotte Hornets
"Getting paid in a major way. I was not expecting Terry to get the Supermax contract extension, but he did. $97 million over the next four years for Terry Rozier with the Charlotte Hornets. Terry had a great run at Louisville still holds the record for most points, scored in a season by a sophomore and had a great run in Boston. It was fun watching him play not only get a lot of minutes for a good team that was in contention, but the Celtics that was a great run they had, and he was a big factor in that. He goes to Charlotte. I think in his first year little underwhelming, they paid him a lot of money and then kind of quietly in his second season with the Hornets this past year, I had a really good year averaged 20 points per game shot 45% from three and I think it didn't get as much attention because the rookie on his team Lamelo ball ended up winning. Uh, the The rookie of the year, But yeah, Terry getting paid in a major way. That's uh,
Speak For Yourself
"lamelo" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
Speak For Yourself
"lamelo" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
"Athletes. Don't go medicines. Fragments was killing me dog. We are interviewed. I hate his comments. Saying we don't need school good. Why hate them is because lamelo just because you do not end did need school. To monetarily thrive in society does not mean others. Like you will not should not and do not meet school to monetarily thrive in society because the question is need school for what school is a means to an education and education as a means to income. So you need school to garner the education and you need the education to garner the income. Now if you're a hoop or the education you need is different or you need to know about these xs and os. You need to know how to put a ball in a basket. It go hooves you to know about finances. Yeah it behooves you to know about to no communication skills. It behooves you to know about time management but the most important thing is to know how to who is the mellow you cannot give all encompassing advice when it's only applicable to you and that's why a big issue for so people call me and it'll be like hey till about your agents feel about your publicized. Did i hear that you gotta harvey no limit giving out. Hey how you feel about this for eight. I'll say this was. He's loved them. I always had a a huge. I love them comma. But and there's a common their lamelo come on me and so they might treat me a little bit differently than they treat you depending upon where you are at this stage in your career. You giving that advice. You don't want you to go into this thing thinking you get the exact same treatment is your boy. Because i'm not necessarily going to get the exact same treatment as that person. Get treated how i get treated based upon what i've commanded but i don't know what your command in so i can't give you this advice that is applicable to you because it's been applicable to me so i hate it so because lamelo is giving out generic advice for specific cases and you can give out generic advice for specific cases. Great point you know. I have a fondness a deep love for the whole ball known him since i was little and i love me some lamelo. That's my doubt. That's right. I still gotta shoes at the crib. Bottom to didn't even get the free swag from it. Then wanna lend myself and lean on that relationship. But i got an issue with these comments. And i'm gonna use melo. Would his platform his name his notoriety to make a greater point. You do need school now. Who doesn't need school. The people who walk around with talent. Data's point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of this planet that ever lived and s lamelo ball and he worked his tail off with that talent to now live a life that is in that point. Zero zero zero zero one percent of all humans that have ever existed. We did it but lamelo. You're walking into pharmacy right now given a prescription people that that ain't medicine here's medicine. Let's talk about what they need. They don't need what you need. They need to take a different peal. Here's the pill of the masses. You need school for two reasons human capital and also you need to build up your hardware so you can apply your software first. Let's talk about human capital. Most people in this world do not get to have intimate experiences with the masses that are going to all be congregated with a like mind like philosophy like school. We're all here to learn and then export their services all across the globe. We're football player. So it's kinda hard to really think about it but for a person who is not there for our reasons who doesn't walk on campus early and people already know our names magic going orientation you have to actually wear name tag or say hello to everyone. We didn't have to do that. So we welcome. Everybody know us or they know about us but for the layman for the normal person you go to school because you wanna be inet congregation that when you guys all graduate. Someone's going to denmark. Someone's going to idaho going south america and now knows your friends your alliances. That's the one reason you need to go to schools for human capital. The second reason is in school. You're supposed to be building up your heart. Where what does that basically your principles your values your ways of thinking learning and applying yourself all the things that we could talk about checkerboard people. You're building up your hardware once you leave. Campus is tonto apply software. What does the software well at this job. They're asking for this from me at this job. They're asking for this for me in this endeavor. I need this to come from me. You need to know how to apply yourself in all situations and school is supposed to prepare you as much as possible for those situations so my biggest issue is not that lamelo was being insincere or disingenuous. None of that. It's the fact that lamelo is talking from a place that most people can climb to even if you gave them all the ladders in the world and nasa issue. I have with his comments. Yeah let me take what you said and give it in a quote that i've heard go. They say that your net worth is your net worth network is your net worth so if in fact the more people you know can help you more money than it. Behooves you to know more people. Hello how can you know. More people by expanding your network and expanding your network. Yeah well you can't expand your network if you don't really go to a place like school. That has a lot of people now. We can simply talk the monetary aspects in recent years average college degree bachelors. Seventy eight thousand dollars in income compared to forty five thousand dollars the average income of someone who just has the high school diploma so we can just start there and we can stop there but sell. It's just too risky to be giving out advice when lamelo everybody can do what you do. Any advice isn't fully accurate. We only hear about the dream stories. Della you go from high school and your brain. Kevin our net relate great kobe bryant but what about all the cast that tried to do it and failed. We owe hear about them so one of the worst stats hate you. Watch the game on. Nfl sunday and you hear there are more three star players playing in the nfl. There are five stars well duh. Because there's more three star recruits in is five star recruits source a large sample size to choose from those ear in china. You the numbers with these eloquent allies. Mellow you live in a great life that you your father your mom's family all your brothers y'all put in that work for but you can't start saying school is dumb and unnecessary because it was unnecessary for you man. We got a little town. We could get a little here. I want to talk about how charles barkley was right even though he got criticized this is in early nineties. You may be a little young for this one but he went out there and say i'm not a role models you know. He's not a role model because he knew the his existence couldn't be something that your kids could go out there and simulate could emulate. They couldn't how many charles barkley's are in the world so for everyone at home. Who is rearing young kids athletes.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
Chad Ford's NBA Big Board
2020 Draft Re-Grade: Western Conference
"All right will. Let's start with the minnesota timberwolves at the number one pick in the draft. They drafted anthony edwards one leandra bomar morrow twenty-three made a trade with the lakers that ultimately landed them jade mcdaniels at twenty eight. I give him a b plus on draft night and primarily digging them because they didn't take the top guy in my board. lamelo ball. Tony what did you think about draft on draft night. And what do you think about it. season later or. I don't remember what grades i gave. I know i gave a nor gave him a high grade For for anthony edwards But i'm going even higher. I'm going to give them in a For the address of our anthony which has been I think he's gonna turn out to be better than we thought. I think these He his rate of improvement over. The season has been Very very very noticeable. I think he's improved The one thing that that i want worried about going into the draft was his ability off the dribble. And i don't think he has any issues off the dribble He's he's a dog. I love how he gets after it. you know but one of the reasons why i wanna give minnesota at a is because of the practice jay mcdaniels You know he's he's exactly what i thought he was. Which is a guy who's losing with ability losing talent I was shocked at how good jay mcdaniels was. Defensively shocked
BallCourt - The World of Basketball with Coach Drew
"lamelo" Discussed on BallCourt - The World of Basketball with Coach Drew
"I'm telling at this point in time. The charlotte hornets is a borderline and they look absolutely phenomenal. I'm expecting them to come out in the on ball his life next week. There's how they look and where the lamelo ball coming back. There is no surprise. they probably won't be long life. He's gonna have those amazing passes that were looking for. Would that amazing shot that that leaves me to this question. Who do you think is going to be the rookie of the year. Who deserves it. Is it lamelo ball or is it. Is it anthony edwards. Wbz's now let me go ahead and tell you my my personal opinion is it should be lamelo ball. We cannot just go ahead and discount what he's done all. Of course he got injured. Yes that happened. It's not out of his control but during the time that he was injured anthony edwards played but nominal basketball but nothing baker. Forget about a ball only make miss lamelo ball all because even though he was dominated and showing that he kill people left it right especially put him in a solo positioning. You leave him on isla with somebody he's gonna cross you and show you that. He's would invest one on one plays into league. And i'm talking about rookie. Yes i said it correct and talking about a rookie. And he's one of the best one place. The league hands. But when you go ahead and look at it when you talk about rookie of the year we talk about somebody on that level when you really want to go ahead and analyze it you gotta talk about what he's done but entire year now for the entire year yes at least have disconnected show and doing things that right but when you turn those forcing or when you turn on on you action was listening to falkirk as should have been doing were we talking about. We were talking about the wall because lamelo ball has passed. He's been making everybody better. He's he's actually energized bridges. He's energized of this team. He's energized of artists franchise. And think about this. Terry rozier lost the starting position to lamelo ball and was actually cool with it. He was again. Let's go let him run. I'm here we had to play ball. And that's what i actually like. You don't get that from anybody especially when you talk about rookie. I'm i'm telling you he's not in a year. I don't know i don't know what the deal ward actually entails. But it's on the tell you the truth lamelo ball future league if you wanna talk about magic. Johnson is magic. johnson sits point out. The reboot.
Game Theory Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Employers. They were one of the worst offenses in the league. I don't think that it was surprising at all that he comes in there and immediately as like we can't keep this guy you know off the floor to Borrego kind of busted his job about the turnovers in the effort early. But you know he's short some of those things up. Before he got injured, I had him in the range of I thought that he would be just sub All-Star like wage at, you know, I thought that he would be somewhere in the like 35 to 60 range as a player like quality starter. Where did you have him item number one in the class and about the same? I would have said like somewhere like 3250. Yeah. So we, yeah, we were kind of in the same spot I but I mean, I thought that he was overwhelming. I mean, he's some some of his gifts are. We're, I don't want to overstate it but that gives you an idea of kind of where I was thinking. I don't know sometimes when I had these wild reactions to players, I have to spend a few days off Pacing in my backyard to make sure that I haven't gone too far which applies to another player that I think we're going to talk about. But lamelo is like one of the best live dribble pass or handlers that I've ever seen. Like, I mean like his his touch, his overhand touch. And I think something that people don't always think about I was talking with combo. Do you know combo at all on? Combo, 6, on Notre, good guy. Former former pro player has a good podcast and we were just talking about the fluidity from shot to dribble. Like that's something about Steph Curry that people overrate like that, that time and sink and sink, synchronicity sink. I don't know. Between those two things is something that's really important in the speed of the NBA. And I think that like, lamelo's fluidity from dribble to pass is Thursday at 4 for a player. His age, I was trying to think of a player who was better and I couldn't think of many if any. Well it's It's the Rhythm that he plays with its. Yeah. Yep. Has this just unnatural feel for the pace of a basketball game and for like the pace of the way that he's supposed to play and game, boys, and a patience, and a comfort level. While also being well also being exceptionally reactive to the defender in front of him. Like, do you ever watch the movie Finding Forrester? It's been a long time. I know we have a mutual friend that loves that movie. Like I don't like I can't even say that I love the movie like having thought about it. Like it's a white savior movie that is seemingly very problematic. Yeah, that's true. Having thought about like the way that this shit worked but there's a scene in it where like the main characters like wage explaining how he's able to like just naturally read the hips and like the belly button of a defensive player and understand how to react based off of that job. And it feels like lamelo is like the Superhuman like basketball player in Finding Forrester, right? Who can do whatever he wants because he has has this unbelievable ability to read, whatever a Defender is going to do in an unnatural ability to be able to get by that guy. Despite the fact that he doesn't have like, incredible thoughts, you know what I mean? Like it's not like he's yeah, overwhelmingly explosive. He's not overwhelmingly strong, he just understands in a very in a twitch hey how to get by guys. And then once he does like you said it's he has an incredible amount of control over the ball..
Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
What Knicks trade for Lonzo Ball could look like
"To the pelicans new orleans lonzo ball love him or leave him leave him. I think a lot of return for lonzo ball. And i i gotta tell you. I'm really impressed with all the talk. We've been having about lamelo ball lonzo. Ball's men baldwin him shooting the ball well from the three point line. He's not really playing. His position stands got him sort of three indeed settings threes. Chris i on your. I can pick and roll like okay. Zion's carmelo no lonzo ball is the karl malone and john stockton karl malone what the hell down world but it works. It works the upside down any can defend. Yeah leave him. Yeah that's what i think. He fits with the knicks. Because we talked about you talk about random about how well you know how hard air coats and commitment to the defense side of all you have to get a certain type of store star in new york. He's a guy that won't be afraid of coming in and do a little hard working in committing to both sides of the ball quickly which you know. Obviously well his dad prophesized already. He prophesied before but now we just gotta deal with him stats next.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"There's no chance that i'm ever going to get the last shot either. Which that you're right that it would be a tough pill to swallow with my little brother. getting paid more money than me eventually and team charlotte's that perfect team to do this because remember they used to have rod higgins's kid. Michael has like of his family members in various front office roles and buddies. You know it's like that's kind of been there for a while. It would be hilarious if they got all three ball. Brothers but i digress. Michael gimme your favorite moments. Okay so real quick. My two favorites The i was his tip dunk over democracy bonus against the pacers earlier this season it was just like added. Nowhere i. I did this interview with eric collins. Who is the play by play announcer for the charlotte hornets. And i asked him for his favorite call of the season and told him it didn't have to be about lamelo but it was bella mellow regardless and He picked that tip dunk because he just had no idea that lamelo could do something like that so it was just eye opening for everyone who was around the team that he had that type of those type of ups and that type of aggression play really stands out in my mind's eye and the other one he threw this full length like real legitimate full length baseball past not from the free throw line not from his own. The top of the key or anything. It was like legitimately. He was standing basically out of bounds. Full length baseball. Pass to gordon hayward who cut it on the opposite baseline and in one motion. Hit this fading footer. Against the knicks really random play but just so beautiful lake one of the most beautiful places. I've seen anyone make all season. So there's like dozens of them. If you just watch. The hornets play basketball regularly. He makes like two or three really memorable plays a game but those two have stood out in my mind. Yeah no question i mean. He's a highlight factory. All season long his rookie year. Mix dave even though he only wound up playing something like what thirty or forty games is going to be absolutely wild and they better make sure it's Narrated by your buddy because that guy has had a great season. Hope somebody check on him. Michael maybe to a follow up text to see. Hey you all good. May maybe sending something like that. My last question for you on lamelo and it's more of a state of the lamelo union type question. I've seen a lot of debates about like lamelo versus trae lamelo versus jaw. Like who would you rather. Have you know for the next ten years right..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"But i saw number of people who were like kind of too soon bro. They didn't like the idea of kind of campaigning. For your guy or trying to benefit at this moment of heartbreak for another franchise another fan base and organization so thumbs up or thumbs down on the immediate campaigning for awards. Following an injury. What is what's the appropriate time line. How long should russell have waited before saying that. I have absolutely no problem with russell. Tweeting that i did not see the tweet. You're bringing it to my attention right now in real time but i mean there should be some sort of delay. You can't just do it when the guys like on hospital bed michael. No time like the present. I mean you know tomorrow is not promised to any of us. I i way to do it. I think it's the way that i'm coming at it right like for example i think did he like did he. Did he like quote. Tweet and be like anthony edwards our roi or tweet. I just think he tweeted the guys. You know his his And then he said rookie of the year. And i think it was one of those. You know sh- Emoji faces we kind of like. Don't be sleeping on him or whatever they're trying to say with that. Who knows the kids. These days michael but it was just quick. I think was what upset people. There is a way to do it. I mean wouldn't you at least say like wow incredible rookie season from lamelo ball. You know but we've got a great guy here in minnesota with anthony edwards. Who's going under the radar. There might be a way to do it. For example. When i was writing up the news i still think lamelo is going to make first team all rookie and i think he actually still has kind of a shot to win. Rookie of the year. I'm not going to rule it out. I think it's more likely than not that somebody else gets it. But he's still somewhat in the mix and you remember that crazy embiid versus brogden debate. That popped up new years ago when he was only played. Like thirty games or something that it was still like made it. You know fairly interesting. That year i could see something similar developing just because lamelo was at a completely different level in terms of impact especially once he moved to that starting lineup compared to everybody else in his class all right on a more serious note. What do you do if you're charlotte here. Michael you wanted to make the playoffs. Because michael jordan always wants to make the playoffs lamelo as your coach said is driving a lot of these victories. Do you still just try to go forward with the same plan and hope that you've got enough other talent. And maybe guys like gordon hayward and terry rozier. Who weren't getting as much attention. Because of mello's now get a little bit more attention nationally for their roles and and kind of helping charlotte along. Do you pull the plug a little bit here and say well if we don't have lamelo kind of what's the point. Maybe trying to play for some draft picks. I mean what do you do here. What's your outlook for the next two months. You just kind of walk around with your hands in your pockets in your head down and listening to kinda sad taylor swift breakup music and just imagine what could have been like. Where do you go with this. Yeah i mean. It's obviously a bummer. I you know the standings are so tight and even though lamelo. His numbers aren't like the hornets have been better all year when he's not on the floor. And even if you just kind of isolate the last fifteen games..
The Rich Eisen Show
LaMelo Ball Is Out Indefinitely With a Wrist Injury
"Ball rookie of the year favourite for charlotte took a really bad fall. You could see him grabbing his wrist or in the game wo zhe and everybody saying fractured wrist. Isan such a bummer. Because he was so exciting to watch made the hornets kinda league past favorite team. How exciting they were with hayward and rosiere devante grandma's back. Pj washington but Bummer news lamelo going to miss the rest of the year.
The 2 Robbies
Tottenham Hotspur's Shock Exit Leaves Jose Mourinho in the Firing Line
"We all stein with shock. Exit of Tuneup from the first leg. I watched it that comfortable. Well-managed rested rotated comfortable victory. I absolutely didn't expect anything other today than a than a than a standard victory or whatever ought to get to find that way through the game the way. The game unfolded watches from really toast. You know the when there's two games at the same time yanna both games. But my eyes were focused on this particular match. And we'll get into your nose Interview afterwards we saw what he said afterwards. But just the shock rob of this result and what it means. I mean just real quick look to the lineup robina. Okay you know. It's kind of a safe team. Changes nothing about the ordering belden star ikouebe. Lamelo insult goes back in the side delegate. A stars a number ten and you look at it the first star from this like okay kind of boring but may be understandable and both sides were didn't really impress of course in all the fun happened in the second rob Zagreb looked like they wanted to get back into the game. The football was unbelievable. The goals that they scored incredible the hat trick and it was just shocking to see the spurs side. Just go from trying to go from boring defensive to money's the game two then scurrying panicking and avenue not enough to get the result. An awful night for spurs on mean think of at the three europa league games. Obviously it was supposed resolve smell and there's money ninety three young. I was kinda thinking monday night. Might be tricky one. See them out of a mole probably leash. Civil i'm thinking tottenham tuna little against a very large so abrupt team by the laid role is manager is just going to prison for for ruled so any guy in charge interesting at a couple of reports after game and said it was a spanish players fluid today. They didn't know. And i mean. I kinda wanna go to the big picture. Straight seasons unraveling suspense based off the puck event. Dish disappointing knows london dolby. You've got a huge per game. That is an important competition one to get some silverware to to guarantee champions league football with a with the money that knows how we will with his squad that should be able to go down to the very last four is not too if they do things right. will peace. I kind of feel like we've gone back to can say two years ago when we decide with poetry you know isn't the module is it plays. I mean tonight. Uh are we there. Like millennials take a lotta heat Happy as we know. Spanish funds will put up with him. As long as you winning the soviet this is one piece of wire gone. Probably know maybe that the best. John lake final against much city in april. Let's see how that one plays out both only in a position. While josie millennials going to check the heat. But i've got to look at some of the place. I mean you look team and let nine of the place who played today. Play last week against his. All grab team made look very odd region and coastal to win. So he's not to play is not good enough for arche. Good ingle squad. That squad should not get beating city nail. I is all web in this level of competition.
Should LeBron James have more MVP awards? Yes, but it's complicated
"All right fellas. Let's keep moving here. Big baller brand versus the king. Wanna talk about this game last night so lamelo basically saying to us. I mentioned this yesterday. That it's just another game playing lebron and as for lebron. It was just another day in the office. Thirty seven eighty six became then talked about a potential fifth. Mvp award lebron running or here my name of some of the best basketball players in the league this year again. it would mean a lot At my age What i'm able to do what i've been doing this whole season You know what our brains at a table every single night on both sides of the floor. it would mean a unbelievable thing for me personally. Is my career so to see what a chips may. Kyle kuzma reiterating. That sediment saying you should want eight or nine guys. We haven't had this conversation in a while. The last time i asked you max i think you had. Joel embiid as your guy. So where are you now. Who do you think's the biggest threat to lebron for. Mvp i used to be very clear. Lebron's the mvp. This moment and beat has now missed too much time. And he's presently hurt. Lebron is the mvp of the league at this moment. The easy answer to who's the biggest threat is james harden. He's playing the best basketball of his career. And that's really saying something and kyrie's been great and have been other great james harden you watch him now. You're watching basketball. Genius like the combination of scoring from anywhere on the floor at historically elite levels combined with the kind of court vision and unselfishness and setting up his teammates that he has shown in brooklyn in the service of winning has been remarkable however pardon also miss time in the beginning of the season because he won on the team. He's on the rockets and he was forcing his way off the rockets. So let me make a suggestion here. I considered yokich best offensive player in the league this year. I think stephen the biggest threat to lebron james. Mvp is damian. Lillard damian lillard a man that you have sat up here right in that spot and apologized to on. I take on this show for ignoring we. We all know him in apology. Dropped thirty six last night. Is he has a colt. Euro kind of status in the nba. Everyone loves this guy used the most clutch player in the league. That is you nets like unanimous consensus that please if not most clutch player damian lillard. He's averaging thirty points a night with assist everything you want. He has taken team decimated by injury destroyed by injury no mccollum until recently and their fourth in the western conference the fourth best record tied for fourth best in the western conference. He's the sentimental favourite. He's playing mvp level. He's shown leadership we all know he has not been recognized. Enough hardens miss time with his team and beads now hurt that you look at each candidate on other teams and lillard is at least as good as any of them. I think he's the biggest lebron's the mvp lillard is biggest threat.
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"He doesn't practice that right certain people. It's a Swagger. It's an instinct. If you get people that play the game thirty years and then they do a move that they never done before because it's like I was feeling that way like certain people think they believed this creativity and just you know, like like James Harden revolutionising the step back. I mean you have to want to do something creative that's never been strong and daring and you have to have the audacity kind of you know, yeah, the only person love to white chocolate real quick Jason Williams and you know his his when he threw the ball off home. Opa exactly have done it before in practice but never in a game but it was when he did it in practice. He said it was spontaneous. Like when when you spend hours and hours and hours around the game something about you and especially as a PG when you're spending hours and hours and hours, which is volume your hand your you understand what you're capable of I used to put about Bob behind my head a lot because I understood that that was the last place that a Defender was looking to you know, tried to swipe the ball off and it works it works so much, but that's something that I developed and you know, of course guys are going to try it. But you know, I've been doing it for the last three four months. You just watched me do it and now you're going to try to replicate in your 15 minutes. It's not going to work but it it's the Love of the Game, you know, he was talking about you're taking away something else from a skilled job. You know when practicing something and you're not putting it in Your Arsenal, I'm sorry when you're practicing something and you're putting it in your home. It doesn't become from a spontaneous play you try to make it happen in the game. And you know, it's like bouncing the ball off somebody's head. You can't think about doing that that has Exactly. I want to ask you a question of something kind of like tied back to the Mellow ball story. I think that that's anything about lamelo ball was wage. I don't know if you guys remember Kimbo Slice. He was like this YouTube sensation where he got in the street barrel and he decided to go UFC and everyone was kind of doubting like will he be able to translate into you know actual like UFC fighting and I don't know how that went. But I think the whole fascination with lamelo ball and Lonzo ball were like, they're these Instagram Sensations. Well, they be able to translate into NBA game, but I think one thing that kind of had an advantage was was playing in the Europe and I think you know from what I've experienced like players that come over from Europe like Manu Ginobili or or Luka doncic as they have a different kind of like a different way of playing that they develop in Europe and it cut their technique kind of bleeds over to the NBA like people adapt it like James Harden or Dwayne Wade using the Euro Step. Or Luka doncic as passing. I think there there there's a different kind of play..
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"I do on the new Locker Room app. So if you have an iPhone or iPad download locker room, follow me at bballbreakdown and you can call into the show and discuss anything NBA you like my show is every Wednesday at 11 a.m. Pacific time and every Sunday at 9 a.m. Pacific. Hope to see you there. And in the meantime, enjoy the great conversation. Hey sports fans coach Nick here and welcome to this Sunday discussion over on the locker room app. I am now posting these until onto the podcast as well. So we got much bigger audience there once I post it. So if you want to come on and chop it up with me then, you know, you'll know you have even more ears over there as well, which should be I think an exciting thing so long welcome one. Welcome all as you guys start streaming in here. We're going to talk a lot about a lot of things today as I was getting prepared today for the show some interesting things were happening. I dropped the video. I had a breakdown the jazz versus the guy showed the Jazz just beeped. I'm going to tell you right now I drop the video. But anyway, I did a video on the Jazz were looking at their offense and whether or not they're for real. So we going to talk about that for a while. They beat the Bucs we can actually fold that into the box a little bit maybe if you want to and I was also prepping a video on Friday, which I'm probably going to drop off. Probably tomorrow. I think I may not have time to finish it up today. But tomorrow on my Melo ball which is the title of the show because I think it's time it's time to talk about that. Well, you might have been in the show or into the the room last night. I ended up jumping into someone else's room. And like I don't know we went for like an hour or two hours or something in the middle of the night. I was kind of cool so locker room was a way to go home and even you know, if it broke out into like discussions about, you know politics it's crazy. So anyhow, don't forget I want you to I want to hear from you. So I please request to speak. I might even invite you to speak why not and see if you take the bait either way, but let's let's had that discussion as soon as you're ready and it's nice Sunday morning. Let's let's I don't know if she got with the Mellow let's do it. Lamelo ball. There was a lot of hand-wringing for the first I don't know eight or ten games this season. He was shooting pretty badly and every dog Thinking. Oh my God. This is the bus. There was a waste of third pick this and that whatever..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"lamelo" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"I'm watching a lot of. I wasn't expecting to watch this much of the charlotte hornets ever in my entire life. And now i find myself watching at least two games a week pretty much because of him and before i stopped my little rant here i do want to say time. Zillur pointed this out on twitter. I believe but the real winner of all of this is charlotte. Hornets play by play announcer. Eric collins who is just like i don't know if you've heard him him call a recent lamelo game but it is like ten out of ten entertainment. I love it. His excitement is my excitement. And it's just a fun experience. And i'm happy for the charlotte hornets right now. Now he's bringing like the andres cantor goal energy to the lamelo experience and he understands exactly what fell in his lap. And he's running within and i think You know more power to them. I'm usually pretty old school when it comes to the broadcasting and stuff and it's like play by play guy is not your lane but he's actually making it work maybe i'm just getting softer on the edges in my old age Michael i don't know but i you know i'm i'm with it now. If they keep doing it and they're down twenty and you know they're below five hundred and a couple of months okay. Maybe we're going to have to reassess but as team better and and does take on Lamelo as its main identity. And i think that's coming. I think you're right on that. I mean he's pretty much going to be the face of that franchise going forward. There's going to be the opportunity for a lot of excitement. Absolutely their their play by play voice is capturing all of it and for fantasy that needs it by the way there really hasn't been a ton of cheer for for that hornets franchise or reasons to tune in like you're mentioning and he's completely flipped at In the span of basically a month and a half the one part of johns email..
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"lamelo" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Well, he's not shooting. Well, he's throwing the ball over higher than probably I think it's career-high almost a career-high and turnovers. So what are you seeing anything specific that you can talk about? Definitely. So let me start off by saying that I thought coming into the season that Russell Westbrook was still top 15 player. He was my favorite player and not stories, but he has given me a lot of frustration. I thought with Bradley Beal and you know, they've got the snipers with the times and even bright like he's gone down. Brian has missed the season now, he'll have an ACL but I just really really thought that if you could get Russell Westbrook in positions to score and be successful that Washington would just be pissed off like I know they had no defense they got no Defenders, but if you going to offset that like they could kind of just play really really fast paced Westbrook's scoring to speal scoring three s. It's not like that at all like their offense is so inefficient let alone like, you know, their defense is really bad, but it's like a lot of their even their place for be like we talked about life. 461 I watched average above that game and that 61 wasn't necessarily as impressive as what it seems to be because it was a lot of Bill just because Danny Green could not guard home at what Daddy Grand this too. I don't know if it's too old or expected too much of Danny Green, but he can't he couldn't hang with him. So I thought you know Bill sixty one was unnecessary sixty one that came a lot of and what you watch their offerings and it's a lot of pin down for him to shoot long tubes. Yeah. It's like I'm pretty sure that the Washington Wizards have the highest frequency of jumpers between 15 and 19 feet. Like you watch Russell Westbrook who dribbled down. He'll catch it on the right-wing I could throw a pass and he'll get back into the horse right wing and it's usually the right side. He'll take four or five jobs in a 18-footer. Like yeah wife is shooting eighteen foot jump shots, you know like to his credit. I've looked at the numbers ever since his first two games where he was a combined over 6 from 3 his show up 35% from 3 since then, so he's three balls been going in a bit like as of late, but he still shouldn't be checked shooting five, you know, and to me off Washington needs to I would I would throw up Troy Brown jr. Cuz I'm not even playing him. I'd throw in two second-rounders Robin Lopez easily cuz they're giving himself a million dollars off if the terms continues to shoot 30% from 3..