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"We'll hello is cayo tire. I believe you promised to right. The last time So okay. I'll i'll do a quick take on the drills traits men offensively. This is the best fit ever for murderers. Because you have shooting in the point guard shooting the shooting guard Even though is iffy ended up our far you had. He should actually in shooting the center. So offensively like oh. He blew average twenty points a game another year. But i i'm so mad at this move because nate being has been required critical on lonzo ball. Because he's being a subpar beacon roll perimeter and i agree but my biggest defense on him would be well. the most spacing he ever played was Two years ago with radic and brennan Because before that he's the best shooter he ever played before. Those two and counting ingram jump on shooting was brute. Clovis at tarring to to shoot threes. 'cause the next season he got the best shooter own team. Lebron james i mean what in the next year was stranded in was Brennan angering jump in jatoric Spree excited to to see long so if he could do it better. I don't know maybe get to derrick white bubble level. I know eh but that is doomed and demar points a game yet. I i think that's you do make a good point. That lonzo is not been in the best situation to maximize his pick and roll. Abilities gotten a little bit better there. But it's mostly been asked to spot up for other people and now he's going to be asked to do that again and so we won't necessarily see him get to blossom. Potentially though i just think just watching him it's really hard if you're not a great finisher and you don't get to the line and you're not a great shooter off the dribble even if you are a great passer it's just hard to be a really good pick and roll and he doesn't just the way his shot for ms. It's tough for him to rise up from the mid range he doesn't have a great floater. And so i just. I don't think he has enough scoring tools in the toolbox. He also doesn't have really an unbelievable handle either. I mean it's not bad but he's not just faking guys out like using inside out dribbles getting guys on his back etc so i think he just doesn't quite have the tools in the toolbox right now to be a great pick and roll player even if he had a better ecosystem. Which as you point out you probably going to Unless they separate him from jerusalem which case than maybe an sorry to interrupt any the my next. My problem is yes. I agree actually actually for me to handle the biggest part 'cause when he's in transition and the handle can be luther that doesn't matter he has the explosion and you got a skill you see a acceleration being rehi- but my problem is he cannot dribble. We false fake in and brandon. Ingram got better with this. I mean i don't like to watch most most of those. The bring ingram made a lot of work in off season with Dribble druce and loans maybe can get better this and if you watch them grow up. That's the biggest difference as a ball. Hinder for me between him. Lamelo lamelo is very good handler ball. Handler and lonzo is like oh decent. I guess but man. I'm still mad. Yeah i well. So i mean i guess it's just all is it worth it four management and the fans. So they wanna see a team. That's kind of squeaking into the palestinian. I think maybe the bulls thing that they can get a home court. Advantage is here. Maybe they could sneak into that. But i just their defense to me is going to be so bad that they just have a really on. How good this team can be a who we're going to next any. Let's go to jared jared. You're on the air. Hey guys thanks for taking my call. I want to shift gears here. A little bit and ask you guys which players from the two thousand seventeen draft. You would be most willing to give a contract to as a second draft player. I know monk in collins of already signed But you see guys like new akina or dennis smith markkanen Who talked about a little bit of any of those guys strike you as as as people who contribute on his second contract market is probably the best player of the guys you mentioned so far i mean outside of john collins obviously would think any jared is is this a long. Is this just a long way of getting to talk about cheviot life. Well well i i. I'm a. I'm a gonzaga guy. So i was. I had that collins in mind but if you wanna talk about semio's late Perfectly perfectly reasonable. Oj's interesting. when just. Because i think the strong he can the three-pointer hasn't come in the way. That i i hope that would but it's still i. I still think it's a possibility collins. I mean what's interesting about the collins. Contract is that if he were reasonably healthy. I mean we have a lot more information but we. I can see him being a useful player on a team. Like just depending on where it goes. We've seen so little of it and we don't. I mean at this point. We mini nate. I don't know where he is physical. How quickly is he going to be able to help. The spurs is a huge question. So i'm not. I'm not at that point named brought up like market. Track record is better than the other guys. i'm trying to think about noah's pure second draft type of situations. Tony bradley i think. Could you know as a backup center. Totally reasonable to think that he could succeed in that role and then the big one for me is josh heart. I think that josh I would say it's less leslie under fifty percent that use a that. He's an mba starter. Moving forward but i think the chances meaningfully higher zero in what's different about wings to guard type thing is is that even if he's not a starting caliber player. There is still a clear place to give josh heart. Twenty to twenty five minutes a game if he's good enough and you can fit that within rotation you could have missed like the kind of the third third swing man of wings depending on how you do it so like part would heart would be my guy. It's possible that the match writes that new orleans yields are limiting nist. But i mean i i like him..
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
2020 Draft Re-Grade: Western Conference
"All right will. Let's start with the minnesota timberwolves at the number one pick in the draft. They drafted anthony edwards one leandra bomar morrow twenty-three made a trade with the lakers that ultimately landed them jade mcdaniels at twenty eight. I give him a b plus on draft night and primarily digging them because they didn't take the top guy in my board. lamelo ball. Tony what did you think about draft on draft night. And what do you think about it. season later or. I don't remember what grades i gave. I know i gave a nor gave him a high grade For for anthony edwards But i'm going even higher. I'm going to give them in a For the address of our anthony which has been I think he's gonna turn out to be better than we thought. I think these He his rate of improvement over. The season has been Very very very noticeable. I think he's improved The one thing that that i want worried about going into the draft was his ability off the dribble. And i don't think he has any issues off the dribble He's he's a dog. I love how he gets after it. you know but one of the reasons why i wanna give minnesota at a is because of the practice jay mcdaniels You know he's he's exactly what i thought he was. Which is a guy who's losing with ability losing talent I was shocked at how good jay mcdaniels was. Defensively shocked
What Knicks trade for Lonzo Ball could look like
"To the pelicans new orleans lonzo ball love him or leave him leave him. I think a lot of return for lonzo ball. And i i gotta tell you. I'm really impressed with all the talk. We've been having about lamelo ball lonzo. Ball's men baldwin him shooting the ball well from the three point line. He's not really playing. His position stands got him sort of three indeed settings threes. Chris i on your. I can pick and roll like okay. Zion's carmelo no lonzo ball is the karl malone and john stockton karl malone what the hell down world but it works. It works the upside down any can defend. Yeah leave him. Yeah that's what i think. He fits with the knicks. Because we talked about you talk about random about how well you know how hard air coats and commitment to the defense side of all you have to get a certain type of store star in new york. He's a guy that won't be afraid of coming in and do a little hard working in committing to both sides of the ball quickly which you know. Obviously well his dad prophesized already. He prophesied before but now we just gotta deal with him stats next.
"lamelo" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"There's no chance that i'm ever going to get the last shot either. Which that you're right that it would be a tough pill to swallow with my little brother. getting paid more money than me eventually and team charlotte's that perfect team to do this because remember they used to have rod higgins's kid. Michael has like of his family members in various front office roles and buddies. You know it's like that's kind of been there for a while. It would be hilarious if they got all three ball. Brothers but i digress. Michael gimme your favorite moments. Okay so real quick. My two favorites The i was his tip dunk over democracy bonus against the pacers earlier this season it was just like added. Nowhere i. I did this interview with eric collins. Who is the play by play announcer for the charlotte hornets. And i asked him for his favorite call of the season and told him it didn't have to be about lamelo but it was bella mellow regardless and He picked that tip dunk because he just had no idea that lamelo could do something like that so it was just eye opening for everyone who was around the team that he had that type of those type of ups and that type of aggression play really stands out in my mind's eye and the other one he threw this full length like real legitimate full length baseball past not from the free throw line not from his own. The top of the key or anything. It was like legitimately. He was standing basically out of bounds. Full length baseball. Pass to gordon hayward who cut it on the opposite baseline and in one motion. Hit this fading footer. Against the knicks really random play but just so beautiful lake one of the most beautiful places. I've seen anyone make all season. So there's like dozens of them. If you just watch. The hornets play basketball regularly. He makes like two or three really memorable plays a game but those two have stood out in my mind. Yeah no question i mean. He's a highlight factory. All season long his rookie year. Mix dave even though he only wound up playing something like what thirty or forty games is going to be absolutely wild and they better make sure it's Narrated by your buddy because that guy has had a great season. Hope somebody check on him. Michael maybe to a follow up text to see. Hey you all good. May maybe sending something like that. My last question for you on lamelo and it's more of a state of the lamelo union type question. I've seen a lot of debates about like lamelo versus trae lamelo versus jaw. Like who would you rather. Have you know for the next ten years right..
LaMelo Ball Is Out Indefinitely With a Wrist Injury
"Ball rookie of the year favourite for charlotte took a really bad fall. You could see him grabbing his wrist or in the game wo zhe and everybody saying fractured wrist. Isan such a bummer. Because he was so exciting to watch made the hornets kinda league past favorite team. How exciting they were with hayward and rosiere devante grandma's back. Pj washington but Bummer news lamelo going to miss the rest of the year.
"lamelo" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"You're going to have you know volume scores versus efficient big men in the sixth man award conversation. But it's not as dramatic as we see here and particularly the last few weeks where with maleek beasley suspended by the league. Edwards usage rate is over thirty percent. Which is something that only two rookies. And since we started tracking usage rate have done in more than a thousand minutes in a season. Which are ben gordon. And luka dench who were a bit more ready for those roles. I would say the anthony edwards was. It's it's also joel. Embiid zion williamson and their shortened seasons. That's the group that he's in in that mix with and he's had some awesome nights in there you know he's had some of the very best games that rookies have had but then also he's going to have some games where he goes four. Eighteen with seven turnovers agree one hundred percent and You know exactly as you would expect for rookie put in his situation so for me. I said let's. Let's do our tentative all rookie teams by tentative. I just want to make clear. I mean tentative tentative. Like i didn't put all that much research into it as i will when i vote all this stuff to me therefore spots on first team all rookie that are about done for out of the five lamelo haliburton quickly in edwards and sounds like you might disagree. I think edwards is more debatable and quickly and and bald. Those ones you can kind of overstep edwards. I think we need at least need to look closely at although you know. I think for all the reasons we've discussed. I think his case probably stronger than james weisman's right. I don't think that's i think that's clear now And wiseman is missile time either. Halliburton is in penn. He he is just wonderful. Exactly what everyone told me he would be a delight to watch and And a fantastic all around play already. Who are some of your favorite candidates for that fifth and final spot. If you just grant me grant me edwards is gonna be on the team because he will win the voters. So grammy that. Who are some of your candidates for the fifth spot. I think that's fair. So we mentioned a few of them. Tillman and stewart. I think have to be in that. Mix their teammates. Also desmond bannon in cdc bay who are much more than three india role players in similar vein. It's weird that we have the to detroit guys because it's usually players that are on better teams like tillman but they and stored of sort of fit into those smaller roles. I want to stop by saying. I have six guys that are like my tier one guys for the next for that last spot which would make them tier one guys for the second team. And you've already named for them stewart. Stewart bay bain and tillman. Maybe seven guys such seven guy. So you've already you've already got. You've already got forum. I would assume jay shaun tait all sean payton very very nice player for the rockets. He's a steel Let's see composite is he is. He is in the next season the next year as much as i love. I love composite. He's in the next year with a couple of other guys. That would probably be my group. Who else do you have in there. I have pat williams starting on a quote unquote playoff team. I just can't if you're not five hundred. I can't call you a playoff team even if you're in the playoffs but i see what the bulls saw in pat williams now. I'm not sure. I would be nicknaming him after kawhi leonard quite yet which the bulls broadcast. I can't remember what they call them. They don't call. They call him some play on the claw or the paw paw. I think they call them the paw. Let's let's just bs back on that. But i see what they saw him. He's he's. He's a good to a decent two-way player on a on a playoff team. I have wiseman just because of the hype and the pedigree and the and the raw production and the fact he's gonna get a lot of opportunities. I think once he comes back and that's it so. Those are my bane who's just always seems to be helping. I'm never nervous when desmond. Being has the ball on the floor moist. I always feel pretty good from emphasis. Effective and tate is just. I really liked tate. That he he's a rotation play on a good team right now. He's not on a good team right now. He could be a rotation player and a good team. After that you get into your peyton. Pritchard's can pozo you would have campos will hire and a coral deserves some credit for playing a lot of minutes and being a really good defender already in and then i'm kinda done after that i think and stewart stewart's beef stew. We got talk about beef stew but anyway yeah i mean williams is an interesting case because i think he fits into a class of rookies where they don't screw anything up and for rookie. That's kind of the first test. And i think sometimes go beyond that. And the fact that he's such a small part of their offense is probably a bit more of a drain. The not screen up would suggest that's interesting is usage rate is quite low. He is expected actually his years. Shorn glimpses of being able to get you a bucket in the mid range. You know if he catches it with a little bit of an advantage or a defender closing out which is really interesting but his size and balance and body control are really intriguing. What the guy i watch i like more and more every time i watch them is isaiah stewart. I liked him the first week. He was my first ten things calm of the year. I think maybe first or second. He's starting to shoot jumpers now. Starting to shoot. Three's dipping his toe into the waters of the three point arc and hit a good percentage of him. I think he's got a chance to be a really solid rotation player for a long time. He he he's good right now. he's a good player. I think. I mean the first thing is. He just plays so hard all the time. And that's been extremely consistent trait going back to his. Prep career withdrew. I watched him at u. Dub last year during his one college season. And that's going to cover a lot of sense. I think the biggest question i had was whether he was going to have enough size to handle planes center defensively in the league and and i don't think that's really been a huge issue thus far. He's he's handled that fine and you know he doesn't like you said y- someone who has the potential to eventually shoot threes. Even though we haven't seen that from him yet. I think it has to count a somewhat of a disappointment not any meaningful disappointment. Not anything that necessarily has bad longterm implications but the denny is nowhere near this conversation. I think has to count a little bit. As a disappointment given the fact that he spent much of the year starting.
"lamelo" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"So lamelo ball has leads. All rookies in minutes. Other than a coro- eggs actually third edwards. Is i coro. Second lamelo stirred. He leaves all rookies in basically everything. I mean every may maybe not rebounding on every bounding in front scoring. pr Anthony edwards is now passed them in scoring actually sixteen point seven for edwards. Fifteen point nine for ball. Every advanced stat is ball ball ball ball if he finishes with forty one games played or wherever. He's at seventy one you know we've seen this with embiid who only played a third of season. We last year figuring out a way zion's rookie of the year candidacy Forty one is is for seven months of the season. What is that fifty percent or something like that. That's a lot kit can can anyone. Can anyone take this from him in your mind take rookie of the year from him or should we just pencil him as the winner and if so who should be if if someone can overtake him well realistically. I feel like anthony. Edwards has shot if he keeps scoring like this and maybe does it a bit more efficiently the rest of the season when they get back more offensive. Help which maybe is the reason. He's not going to keep scoring like this. I mean you know. Historically i've written about this you can predict rookie rookie of the year pretty easily. It's the guy who leads. Combined points per game rebounds per game assists per game almost always wins the award and a chance that anthony edwards can if not surpass lamelo ball and that at least come close enough that the fact that he's healthy all season might sway voters to his side but you know in terms of in actual value to his team perspective. I think halliburton and emmanuel quickly. Those are the two guys that maybe have a chance to close that gap before the end of the season. But part of this comes back to fundamental question Which is how do we do. We treat rookie of the year and the all rookie teams the same way as we do. Mvp in the nba teams. Or we're going to put a little more on whether it's projection for you know. Talented prospects or the quantity of contributions. Even if necessarily the quality of them isn't quite as strong. You certainly consider it. It's a totally different kind of voting. Because both for all rookie and rookie of the year. You're going to naturally consider guys on bad teams because the best prospects get drafted by bad teams and so edwards is shooting thirty. Eight percent overall forty-three on twos thirty. Two on threes is advanced. Numbers are terrible. I think he's last in wind. Shares among all rookies for instance. Just one example. But that's just so. I almost when i see a rookie. That is placed into a role with his level of responsibility on a bad team. I i have a hard time. That's what you just have to watch the games and if you watch the games you see a guy who yeah. He'll make some mistakes. Take some bad shots. He he doesn't take long. Twos takes the long twos and have basically gone extinct in the nba. He takes the twenty one and a half footers that nobody takes anymore. And you'll get he'll ball. Watch on defense all rookie stuff. He'll also like like how. How am i supposed to compare him. To patrick williams who is the fourth or fifth option at all times and it does not have any of these responsibilities and if he did his efficiency numbers would crater to. I think you have to watch a guy like edwards for yes. You would like the efficiency decree about but i think it would. If you're playing with the angela. Russell and carl towns and if ricky rubio had been playing like he has in the last three weeks all season i think his numbers would be more efficient. I think you have to watch them. Like what am i not a not ignore the result totally but yeah okay so you missed it. The ram w- what was the process in getting there. How many passes a game to see. Does he make that make you think okay. Something is happening to me. He's been passing all those tests based on his age and experience level. The fact that wolves are awful and had been playing without towns for the air russell for most of the year blah blah blah to me. I bet you're going to see some arguments from people who don't think he should be in the top three for the year and maybe shouldn't be on the first female rookie based on his advanced numbers. And i don't. I don't buy those. I mean it's a case that we see over and over again with player rookies that are drafted at age. Eighteen onto bad teams and asked to do a lot. I mean colin sexton. Two years ago i think was one of the ultimate examples of that where he hit his advanced numbers. I think we're even worse that year than than anthony edwards numbers have been so far this year. And we've seen you know. He's i don't think he's as good now as his scoring average looks and the idea that he was in the all star conversation at one point early in the process. That was probably a bit aggressive for my taste. But he's become a very promising quality guard in a way that you would expect not. He wasn't doomed by the fact that he was maybe the least valuable player in the league. Rookie so yeah league xavier. Tillman has better advanced numbers than anthony edwards exhibit. Tolman nice player. But that's just there's just he's a bench guy on a decent team with people spoon. Feeding him floaters shots him. He's got a good defender a good rebounder all that. It's just completely different than what anthony edwards had to be. It's rare that we're complaining players in such different rules in awards context usually. They're somewhat more similar..
Tottenham Hotspur's Shock Exit Leaves Jose Mourinho in the Firing Line
"We all stein with shock. Exit of Tuneup from the first leg. I watched it that comfortable. Well-managed rested rotated comfortable victory. I absolutely didn't expect anything other today than a than a than a standard victory or whatever ought to get to find that way through the game the way. The game unfolded watches from really toast. You know the when there's two games at the same time yanna both games. But my eyes were focused on this particular match. And we'll get into your nose Interview afterwards we saw what he said afterwards. But just the shock rob of this result and what it means. I mean just real quick look to the lineup robina. Okay you know. It's kind of a safe team. Changes nothing about the ordering belden star ikouebe. Lamelo insult goes back in the side delegate. A stars a number ten and you look at it the first star from this like okay kind of boring but may be understandable and both sides were didn't really impress of course in all the fun happened in the second rob Zagreb looked like they wanted to get back into the game. The football was unbelievable. The goals that they scored incredible the hat trick and it was just shocking to see the spurs side. Just go from trying to go from boring defensive to money's the game two then scurrying panicking and avenue not enough to get the result. An awful night for spurs on mean think of at the three europa league games. Obviously it was supposed resolve smell and there's money ninety three young. I was kinda thinking monday night. Might be tricky one. See them out of a mole probably leash. Civil i'm thinking tottenham tuna little against a very large so abrupt team by the laid role is manager is just going to prison for for ruled so any guy in charge interesting at a couple of reports after game and said it was a spanish players fluid today. They didn't know. And i mean. I kinda wanna go to the big picture. Straight seasons unraveling suspense based off the puck event. Dish disappointing knows london dolby. You've got a huge per game. That is an important competition one to get some silverware to to guarantee champions league football with a with the money that knows how we will with his squad that should be able to go down to the very last four is not too if they do things right. will peace. I kind of feel like we've gone back to can say two years ago when we decide with poetry you know isn't the module is it plays. I mean tonight. Uh are we there. Like millennials take a lotta heat Happy as we know. Spanish funds will put up with him. As long as you winning the soviet this is one piece of wire gone. Probably know maybe that the best. John lake final against much city in april. Let's see how that one plays out both only in a position. While josie millennials going to check the heat. But i've got to look at some of the place. I mean you look team and let nine of the place who played today. Play last week against his. All grab team made look very odd region and coastal to win. So he's not to play is not good enough for arche. Good ingle squad. That squad should not get beating city nail. I is all web in this level of competition.
Should LeBron James have more MVP awards? Yes, but it's complicated
"All right fellas. Let's keep moving here. Big baller brand versus the king. Wanna talk about this game last night so lamelo basically saying to us. I mentioned this yesterday. That it's just another game playing lebron and as for lebron. It was just another day in the office. Thirty seven eighty six became then talked about a potential fifth. Mvp award lebron running or here my name of some of the best basketball players in the league this year again. it would mean a lot At my age What i'm able to do what i've been doing this whole season You know what our brains at a table every single night on both sides of the floor. it would mean a unbelievable thing for me personally. Is my career so to see what a chips may. Kyle kuzma reiterating. That sediment saying you should want eight or nine guys. We haven't had this conversation in a while. The last time i asked you max i think you had. Joel embiid as your guy. So where are you now. Who do you think's the biggest threat to lebron for. Mvp i used to be very clear. Lebron's the mvp. This moment and beat has now missed too much time. And he's presently hurt. Lebron is the mvp of the league at this moment. The easy answer to who's the biggest threat is james harden. He's playing the best basketball of his career. And that's really saying something and kyrie's been great and have been other great james harden you watch him now. You're watching basketball. Genius like the combination of scoring from anywhere on the floor at historically elite levels combined with the kind of court vision and unselfishness and setting up his teammates that he has shown in brooklyn in the service of winning has been remarkable however pardon also miss time in the beginning of the season because he won on the team. He's on the rockets and he was forcing his way off the rockets. So let me make a suggestion here. I considered yokich best offensive player in the league this year. I think stephen the biggest threat to lebron james. Mvp is damian. Lillard damian lillard a man that you have sat up here right in that spot and apologized to on. I take on this show for ignoring we. We all know him in apology. Dropped thirty six last night. Is he has a colt. Euro kind of status in the nba. Everyone loves this guy used the most clutch player in the league. That is you nets like unanimous consensus that please if not most clutch player damian lillard. He's averaging thirty points a night with assist everything you want. He has taken team decimated by injury destroyed by injury no mccollum until recently and their fourth in the western conference the fourth best record tied for fourth best in the western conference. He's the sentimental favourite. He's playing mvp level. He's shown leadership we all know he has not been recognized. Enough hardens miss time with his team and beads now hurt that you look at each candidate on other teams and lillard is at least as good as any of them. I think he's the biggest lebron's the mvp lillard is biggest threat.
"lamelo" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"So get this many young nba players. Screw up in lebron james so facing him for the first time usually comes with a bit of excitement but according to lamelo ball thursday will be just another game for him when asked if he was excited to be facing lebron for the first time. Lamelo report. I mean different. Not really on basketball like that so not really trying to figure out what he's saying here shannon. Are you surprised by lamelo answer. No not really. I mean everybody's not doesn't have to idolize. Lebron means some guys idolize. Colby like some guys idolize magic and not magic. I'll be michael. Some guys like labored. I mean it's okay but he says. Look i'm going into this game and i'm gonna approach it like i do all the game with purpose of winning. Yeah i mean sure. Nor lebron i want wanna beat lebron's but i didn't take anything. He says my idol kobe. My dad i mean being from. La is hard to be familiar skill in kobe. Bryant be idle. You're right here like chicago. The likelihood that you grew up in chicago and michael jordan weren't your idol if you grew up in the eighties and the nineties what maybe one person to people. But that's okay. He said it'd be cool to face. Lebron lonzo pattern. His game do a little bit of everything. Or if i need to rebound the system ball mellow but i. I didn't look at the shot at it. Look at it. As a slight. I look at the guy at trying to find his own way into the league is like look i understand. What lebron is what. He is ever play what he is what he means to this league. But i'm not. He wasn't my idol growing up. And so i didn't take anything from it. But once he gets up and personal and heathy the map he feed them legend. We'll talk to shrink. Nah bill different. Thank his throat will get a little tight. Nah nah nah. That's because you know. We started doing them them. Give you see lebron block last night. Talk about lamelo ball. It's the timber wolves come on. Hey.
"lamelo" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Tired jacoby. Say any general manager that passes on lamelo ball will regret it and you just put up those status right. That ain't just points that's assist. Make people around me better. That he meant he had a big block in the game yesterday. A big defensive play. And i love his core vision as court since his ability to compete out there and not be afraid like he's going to be a superstar in this league. Tried to tell you. Try to tell you. And let's not forget this. Do you rebounds that he gets right. He gets triple doubles. And he six assists six rebounds and everyone talked about. Oh he can't shoot a lamelo ball. Cash shoot lamelo ball is shooting thirty five percent from three and that's not to attempts either. He's shooting threes and making three days. Only gonna get better. Here's the rules that you need to be a point guard in twenty twenty one and beyond in the national basketball association. I totally agree with you. But i want to shut off the young players and a rookie class because so many young guys around the league are being truly productive and appreciate these guys coming into the game ready but the one thing about mellow three point percentage. You just brought up it. Takes into account plays like yesterday when they throwing it out of bounds. And you trying to save you. Fallen into the chairs and a water cooler and you shoot it that kind of gives you a percentage of too. I'm just saying that the best look really thought he was gonna make that too. We'll jalen one team that is trying to turn around got an opportunity so yes saying that. Are the struggling boston. Celtics win.
"lamelo" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Team that we're going gonna play close attention to and that is the charlotte hornets and they have been playing some inspired basketball of late. Pj washington had forty two points in this one and it was maliki mark who scored the bucket at the end that gave them the wind. Jalen why is this team so much fun to watch basketball degenerate jacoby studio yesterday. Working twelve straight hours went home and watch all of this game and if you see some crazy on the screen because this is espn anymore. This is the hornets news network and one of the things that happened late in that game was really crucial. Scary cherry got to the line and all the sudden the other teams the king started missing. Free throw so many free throws. Pj made a couple of threes miles made a couple of plays and you know mellow made a couple of plays. This is a terrific close to a young team to get a big time. Win on the road killing. You know we love lamelo ball jalen and jacoby so we've just straight up. Made him his own segment. Here it is one of one with lamelo ball and jalen. He had twenty four points. Twelve assists his third game with twenty and ten jalen. What do you think about this young soon. Be rookie of the year. I think if you ever want to know anything about lamelo bought issues your parking spot because we try to. We tried to tell you need try. Jacoby sat on this show and i just sat silent. I'd say that for so long. My brother took over two pi form. You go ahead. i'm.
Jazz set records for 3s in 132-110 rout of Hornets
"The Utah Jazz used a three point shooting barrage proposed a one thirty two one ten win over the Charlotte Hornets Donovan Mitchell led the jazz in scoring with twenty three points and handed out eight assists as Utah rallied from an eleven point deficit in the second half finally taking control with a twenty six two run George the young scored twenty one points on seven of seven three point shooting well Joe Ingles also had seven three point field goals for twenty one points as a jazz converted on twenty eight three point shots in the game Gordon Hayward and LaMelo ball each scored twenty one points for the Hornets I'm Jim Bernard
"lamelo" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"I'm watching a lot of. I wasn't expecting to watch this much of the charlotte hornets ever in my entire life. And now i find myself watching at least two games a week pretty much because of him and before i stopped my little rant here i do want to say time. Zillur pointed this out on twitter. I believe but the real winner of all of this is charlotte. Hornets play by play announcer. Eric collins who is just like i don't know if you've heard him him call a recent lamelo game but it is like ten out of ten entertainment. I love it. His excitement is my excitement. And it's just a fun experience. And i'm happy for the charlotte hornets right now. Now he's bringing like the andres cantor goal energy to the lamelo experience and he understands exactly what fell in his lap. And he's running within and i think You know more power to them. I'm usually pretty old school when it comes to the broadcasting and stuff and it's like play by play guy is not your lane but he's actually making it work maybe i'm just getting softer on the edges in my old age Michael i don't know but i you know i'm i'm with it now. If they keep doing it and they're down twenty and you know they're below five hundred and a couple of months okay. Maybe we're going to have to reassess but as team better and and does take on Lamelo as its main identity. And i think that's coming. I think you're right on that. I mean he's pretty much going to be the face of that franchise going forward. There's going to be the opportunity for a lot of excitement. Absolutely their their play by play voice is capturing all of it and for fantasy that needs it by the way there really hasn't been a ton of cheer for for that hornets franchise or reasons to tune in like you're mentioning and he's completely flipped at In the span of basically a month and a half the one part of johns email..
"lamelo" Discussed on The Jump
"Wait no sorry. that's michael corleone anyway. The point is lamello has had a lot to navigate for a long time. There was the shadow cast by his brother. Lonzo who was drafted number two overall the even longer shadow cast by his father. Who after being a guest on seemingly every television show ever created finally started a reality show of his own that debuted twenty six million viewers. I don't know what any of you out. There looked or acted like when you were a sophomore in high school. Like lamelo was at the time. But i for one. I'm very grateful. I do not have twenty six million people examining my every move. There is also the matter middle brother liangelo getting arrested for shoplifting which could have been treated as just a minor teenage indiscretion except for well. When your family is famous nothing is minor and so it's no balled into an international incident involving donald trump. Oh and then there was also the fight that lavar got into over. The coach at lamelo was high school which ended in lamelo having to leave his friends. And everything he'd ever known to go play ball in lithuania. So that is a lot of other people's baggage to be carrying around before you even get the chance to figure out who you are yourself and yet instead of being bitter or entitled were burned out lamelo not only made it through in one piece. He has become one of the brightest young stars in this bazaar. Nba season driving a charlotte hornets franchise that had previously seemed eternally. Stuck in neutral. Watching ball is just so much flat out fun. He's got an imprint improvisational style. That makes everything constantly fresh. His court vision insane. Remember this behind the back pass miles bridges that was ball in his very first season game since then. Ball and bridges have been turning basketball courts. All over america into their personal and mix tape tour with gordon hayward also getting a healthy boost from ball as well and along. The way ball has pushed his way into the starting lineup. The youngest player in nba history to record a triple double and last night tied a franchise rookie mark when he hit seven. Three pointers against the rockets outdueling. The ola depot to earn the hornets a win. Take a look at some of the shots. I mean just so nice cool calm. The performance was all the more impressive. Considering balls. pre game routine was disrupted by an issue with his copa test. Team officials had him stay home until it was cleared up which means ball basically walked into the arena put on her uniform and started playing. And of course it wouldn't be a breakout. lamelo ball. Game without an eye popping assists. Check this out to.
2021 NBA Draft Big Board
"Time to do some updates on the big board and like i said before these big boards are based off a consensus at the end of the day between nba scouts. General managers. that. I'm talking to right now about where they have. These guys ranked them not ranking them. According to team needs this is not a mock draft and for the most part those nba scouts and general managers win the day. If i disagree with them but everybody has a guy higher than me then. He goes higher If there's a tie sometimes then you know. I may come in and put my finger on the scales but what i'm trying to do here is report. What i think is the general consensus from nba teams. And i want to start with the top five because these top five right now. I will do my tears column towards the end of the draft right before the draft happens usually about a week or two before the draft. But if i were to do it today i would say that. There's as many as five guys who are looking like tier one guys if you remember from last draft when i did my tears column. I personally didn't have any guys in tier one talking to nba teams and be scouts. While there was guys that got votes for tier one. Like lamelo ball. Anthony edwards james wiseman ultimately none of them got the fifty percent threshold to move into tier one. If i if i were betting man right now and for that particular survey to a pretty wide swath of nba teams and general managers and scouts. I'm thinking that there might be as many as five tier one prospects in this draft right now. So we'll start at the top. He was number one a big board. One point oh he stays number one here in big bore two point okayed cunningham. The point forward freshman out of oklahoma state. Who who's been really everything that he was advertised to be as the one of the most complete players in the draft who plays one of the most important positions in the draft wing. He's averaging eighteen points a game six rebounds a game nearly four assists the game one and a half steals a game. He shooting thirty nine percent from three. Which i think was definitely one of the swing skills for kate cunningham. That teams had coming in. How well of an outside shooter is he going to be and so far. The numbers look really good on that end. If there's an issue with kate cunningham right now and i think it's an interesting one. It's that he has not been a particularly careful with the ball. He's averaging three and a half turnovers a game which is which is pretty high and he has a lot in this oklahoma state offense. They rely heavily on him which means at times. He's forcing things. But that's the one red flag. If i'm looking at you know just sort of overall the numbers and what's going on where the red flag might be. It's that again. Three point five turnovers jumps to about three point eight in this per thirty six. And that's the one that i would that i would be careful about watching because his reputation coming in was that this is one of the steadiest playmakers that you're going to find his ability to see the game to be afford leader very high and that assist to turnover ratio is really the only major war that i can really see on statistical profile right now and again. I think you have to caveat that some by the fact that you look at the team that he's playing on and how teams can really game plan for him every night that there are reasons why i think that cunningham might not have the highest assist to turnover ratio at least one that we would expect.
"lamelo" Discussed on The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker
"At how well he has played. What look his numbers are better than lonzo's already lonzo's averaging thirteen and a half points lamelo averaging twelve lamelo averages and he's playing fewer minutes than lonzo lamelo averaging five rebounds to lonzo's four and a half lamelo average and five assists lonzo four and a half the mellow shooting better from the free throw line. There's the same from the field forty percent both of them and then from three lamelo. Thirty four percent lonzo's thirty three percent so and he remembers coming off the bench. And that's i do like that. He is coming off the bench. Like i didn't want charlotte to just hand them. The keys they got. Terry rozier who's bettered in Lamelo at this point. They got devante. Graham who had a great season last year eighteen points. I think five or six. You know when you have rounded player that high though you expect in big rights and i get it online. And that's why i like the. They're making him earn his minutes. You know they're not just given and they're a bad team to your point but that they because of that you would think they might just throw him out there. Starting playing thirty five minutes a night. You know what i mean. Let him just do whatever he wants. And that's not happening. Which i think is good for him. Because i think maybe he could learn. We had to kind of play some serious basketball. I'm curious as to what people think what they've seen so far how far lonzo's star has dimmed not that he can't be a decent right. He's a legitimate players. I'm not saying that right but when you look here member. Who was ned. Dr deer fox deer foxes playing like an all star and deanne fox. Who killed him in college number. And we've said if his dad lavar was a normal dad where you didn't know who he was he didn't say anything. I think the lakers would have been more apt. Take the air and then lonzo. Because i dare killed him in in in college. I thought it was at a tournament game. What was it. He was a moral game. One time. lonzo didn't play your some. They play twice. I think in the season. If i'm not mistaken lonzo sat out one or two games. But yeah are the air and is looks like the better player for sure at this point but lonzo solid but like you said. His dad's mouth helped him get drafted. Second by the lakers and they all hurt that it put a target on his back from fans the media and other players and then magic did worse. He double down. George is going to be in the rafters next to. I make chris. You remember your shot the best boy ghar ever. You said this dude. Go break your records. You know so i look lonzo. I think wants to play in peace. He is on a good team. But let's see if they can start winning. But i think he could be a part of you know if they build something special in new orleans. I think he could be a part of it but again is disconcerting at. He's only at four and a half assists. I'm sorry that i that's not a good look so all right. Let's go out the number eight seven seven ninety nine on fox. Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine which ball brother and liangelo not in the question between level mellow and lonzo ball brother. Do you think will have the better career lamelo or turned away with. Chris arrived the couple of fox sports radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with chris. Broussard and rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app whether you're a resolution person or not it doesn't matter miller lite with great sason. Just ninety six calories will be there to help you enjoy some much-needed miller time whether you're meeting new goals just making it to the weekend. Twenty twenty didn't set the bar too high for what counts improvement. 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Bruce either rob parker and look folks business day. It moves faster than ever and if you slow to adapt. Well you won't get left behind. I'm sorry i don't know what to tell you. Actually i do know what to tell you. If you still running on things like quick books well make a change. It's time to hit the gas and accelerate move to net. Sweet let net sweet show you how it benefits your business with a free product tour at next week dot com slash od nets we dot com slash od. You're turned away at eight seven ninety nine on fox which ball brother lamelo or lonzo will have the better. Nba career. Your turn away in andrei massachusetts. Your first couple fox sports radio. What's up padre going on guys. Happy friday thanks for taking the call favorite lonzo over lamelo based off the fact that feel better defender and a better rebound but at the end of the day. I think it's going to be immaterial because the clear plan. And i'm seeing from the ball. Brothers eight to play together. I think lonzo signing with klutch sports opting not to sign him extension to wait until free agency. I think that he is going to push to try to get paired up with his brother had planned the same team. And i think that's when you'll see the best of you my man but stop it. Stop lots. He got that kind of juice. Lebron james really. He'd better take what he can. Get your chris stop. It demanded where he's going to go. Please i may i look. He's a legitimate in. Be a player and starter but to think lonzo is going to be determining him and his brother going to play to get no and they're going to force the other brother in the league. Chris why say oh. We take a whole narrative right hook line and sinker. I mean don't even need to play together. They're both way on this right doing it now. That's that's ridiculous better than that man. Come on george. In gainesville. Florida couple of fox..
"lamelo" Discussed on The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker
"One hour left in the show as we prepare for a while car weekend. And what a week in it's going to be in the nfl and to get us ready for it. I know some of you guys will be putting money on these games. We got our mail. Lamar mitchell the mgm grand race and sports book director. Out there in las vegas. He'll join us at the bottom of the hour to get us ready. And their robin. I will make our picks with the pigskin pickoff at the end of the show. But let rob. Let's tonight obviously. No football games going on But there's basketball and this is a big night for the ball family Lavar ball two of his sons. We know you know few months ago. He made history. He had two sons get drafted in the top three of the nba draft. What an accomplishment and a feat that that is and tonight rob Those two sons lonzo ball point guard for the new orleans. Hornets drafted second by the lakers. A few years ago and lamelo ball backup coming off the bench for the charlotte hornets hornets. But he was there. Big draft number three pick by michael jordan and the charlotte hornets in. They're playing tonight right now. New orleans which has the better team. They're getting the best of charlotte new orleans at four. Four is winning sixty four fifty five charlotte's three and five there early in the third quarter but right now rob lonzo. I'm sorry lamelo is having the better game. Statistically lonzo's guy five points to assist and lamelo has seven points four assists nothing to write home about. We're in the mellows coming off the bench. Lamelo is has only played. Thirteen minutes lounge out. Chris do you have. Lonzo is averaging thirteen and a half points. Four and a half assists. Which is i believe a career low and four and a half to say that's a small number right there. That's not even makers chris brandon. Ingram is the team leader in assists five and a half per game. So the ball's not in lonzo hands as much and yeah. Look lonzo if you asked me which one of these two is. The better player for years from now i will say lamelo. I think lamelo lamelo has shown that he could be star. I'm not not to the point where you know. He's gonna be a star yet. It's not like you're say really positive side is bigger than his brother lonzo. Because we've seen lonzo chris now for what four years. What does this before this fourth year. I believe yup fourth you. And i'll tell you maybe it was chris because where it was drafted. Maybe it was because his dad was too loud. maybe it was because magic. Johnson johnson pump to mop like p t barnum like. it was a circus. Come see the fat lady. Whatever it was chris. I think suffered. He suffers from that. Do you know what. I mean like to build up. You mean a knife slayer -ception right. Ain't going to be a star in this league chris. He's not it doesn't look like and first of all you're right. It's bothersome disconcerting that he's only averaging four and a half assists does we dickey's because we know he's not going to score so if you only giving me four and a half assists i mean if jason kidd averaged thirteen points he was going to give nine assists as well as say he should be getting nine assists with with with zay on an ingram right now and he's shooting thirty two percent almost thirty three percent from three rob. It's a different. Nba and magic. Johnson wasn't a great shooter. Jason kidd wasn't a great shooter obviously at the end of his career. He became a good three point shooter but he couldn't shoot when he entered elite. But guess what it was different back then today's nba. And i say this about ben. Simmons is hard. If i got a point guard. They can't shoe. I totally agree. That's why i keep saying if i'm getting rid of anybody's ben simmons in this man's nba. I'm serious but i don't is good but yeah i mean i'm talking about trying to win championships. It's gonna be tough with that. He won't even take them but the lonzo flame out. I don't know maybe people see something else. Maybe chris couple more years he gets a little more aggressive. But if you not aggressive at this point has gotten more aggressive. I'll give you shooting it more. He definitely more aggressive but even at ucla. And i liked this about him. He gets rid of the ball fast which may be one reason. His assists aren't as high although they've been hiring previous years. But you know. When i was coming up i mean you were taught to move the ball and as a point guard. You get the ball in the outlet. You're looking up court and if somebody's ahead of you that can do something with it. You kick it up. And he does that which i like. Most point guards wanna dribble dribble all the time but at this level especially with the high pick and roll. It's huge an nba. Today you do need to be able to handle it and make moves off the dribble which is not a big strength of his game. Now lamelo on the other hand does have that route lamelo. I had one scout now. This is a bit of an overstatement. But one scou-. I don't know if i read it or somebody told me i can't remember but they said that this guy is as creative as with like one of the most creative guys with the ball. They've seen since pistol. Pete that's sound ridiculous but lamelo is flashy man. He's fun to watch why his passes or flamboyant and you know and he's somehow shooting better in lonzo he's shooting thirty five percent most from three which for him is good because that was the knock owning. Couldn't shoot coming into the league. Yeah i talked to a a mba basketball hall of famer and basically. He says he told me that. Lamelo odyssey has talent and has signing but the still got to see more because of his path to the nba. Chris his competition that he played against the all. The aau basketball was chuck. It from anywhere you want. And no one's going to say anything to you and now you gotta get this guy to learn how to play winning. You talk about it. All the time chris winning basketball right. There's difference between just playing basketball and getting yours and winning basketball and until they get that kind of figured out with him chris. I don't know what we're not sure what we got. That's what i mean now. It's what i was just a question. That was one of the big questions i did. That was that before to draft or recently you were taught. This was after this was right when he started and had the goose egg on. The opener does quite after that. I i i want to call somebody. You know who i am here. Belief in and they know the game and all that because going into the draft. That was one of the big questions about him was. He hadn't really played a lot of series basketball right lithuania or australia. I'm sorry they were exhibition games. Essentially lithuania was very similar to that and the talent level. Just the isn't update. He just you know in the you. Even when he played high school. I mean they were cherry. Picking left and right was i told you i went to a game in. La and a playoff game they had they lost and him and The the the second brother liangelo liangelo were on the team. Chris won the team that the game that was watching and poor. They were just shocking. Cherry picking three-quarter shut like take the ball by get the ball imbalance take two dribbles and then chuck up like a fifty foot shot I was like. I couldn't believe what i was. What they lost the game because it is you well rob. That's why i've.
Ball brothers Lonzo, LaMelo set to square off in NBA matchup
"We're talking about lonzo in the last segment. A little bit and brandon ingram coups mud cetera. But the whole point was that lamelo alonzo are playing. And you don't have a lot of brothers playing against each other. We know the wilkins brothers Played against each other. Obviously the soul brothers have played against each other so this is just another installation of that particular kind of cool fund rivalry that the nba tends to have but we you know we talked a lot about lonzo. What do you think of the mellows. Ceiling is wow. That's a great question Ever since i first saw him like what was it like three years ago now watching plane. Aau it was obvious he was really talented offensive player. So i would say. His silly is attached to his defense. Okay you know. The more he improved bronco on defense to hire his silly goes because even though i think he's a really talented offensive. Play at the reality is. There's not a whole lot of dudes who play his position in the back court. That can't get you them buckets. Right what else you got. And we're waiting to see him. Show us the other aspects of it tastes him from being a talented young player to someone who may be able to lead a team to a french tour championship. So at this point It's a wait and see i need to. I need to spend a liberal time playing ball getting better getting stronger. Before i can tell you where i think is ceiling is going to go because i need to see how strong and how defensive he's going to become yet. Defensively is a big problem. I think big problem right now but it's a big problem for young players especially rookies week or so. You know. it's time for all of them. So i'm not going to hold them to this. But after two seasons if dudes are still blown by him because he's too busy trying to leak out get buckets. Then we know what that is. Yeah look here's ofensive skill set. His passing is ridiculous. Like we already know that that very early on do you think. He has a higher ceiling than lonzo though no not inherently so right well of course. There's always a good defender. There's no question about really answer. Really good rebounder right. And he's equally as good as a passer. So you're asking yourself. We'll lonzo's offense developed faster than lamelo defense. Because that's gap right. There will lonzo's offense develop than I would say lonzo's offenses rounding to form much much better. These last eight months or whatever lamelo defense defense takes a while i feel like guy sometimes go years before they learn to play real. Good defense is that fair or it depends on the coach that should never have conversations with Jj radic over the years and bright before he was drafted. He and i were joking. I was like dude. I love you to be in phoenix. House wins nash. And amari and those guys were rolling. Sounds like do you just be straight buckets. Any overstaying strengthen gundy and you needed to lay defense to play. I needed to pay exactly to play defense for stand right and it was because of that. He's still in the league. I don't know if he was still being the league. If it wasn't for stan forced him to know how to play good defense and he did. He became a very capable defender Even though he's small right even though he you know he he's he's not he's strong for size but he's not like some overwhelming You know person when it comes to his strength but he's really smart. He plays the angles while he plays team defense. Because you're you're right. You're right
Ball, Hornets dominate Mavs' home opener in 118-99 win
"The Charlotte Hornets rout of the Dallas Mavericks in their home opener one eighteen to ninety nine so the Hornets improved the two into other mass drop to one in three Hornets built up a sixty eight fifty seven lead at halftime then put the game away with a fourteen all run to start the third went up by as many as thirty one and coasted the rest of the way hearted shot fifty one percent from the field to just thirty nine percent for the mass harness with six players in double figures led by LaMelo ball scored twenty two miles bridges at twenty points sixteen boards while the males were led by Tim Hardaway wed eighteen Bob Stevens Dallas
Thompson has torn Achilles tendon, expected to miss season
"So it's the injury everybody's talking about but with clay sadly you gotta specify which injury you're talking about. Are you talking about the one in game. Six of the twenty nine thousand finals. The last time we saw him play a game or the one suffered earlier in the week. Which is an achilles tendon. Tear he is now out. It could be if the calendars right two and a half years between games. We're looking forward to having him back at the start of the twenty twenty one. Twenty two season knick. Fidel has been all over the warriors for years and he joins us on the shell. Pennzoil performance line nick. Good morning first thing. Just the response in and around the organization on the news zubin. Everybody's just depressed excited leading into the draft. And in the fact that wiseman was there at number two he was number one on their board and and they were just really looking forward to having steph klay draymond and then plugging in wiseman and seeing what we can give them and then they range of emotions in those couple of hours before the draft and then after the draft they really couldn't even celebrate. Everybody was so sad about clay. I mean he is the guy behind the scenes with all the star power in that locker room that sets the tone for everybody else. And that's why kerr and all those players they love it and so to know that he's going to be out again for another year which just crushing for. Everybody involved nikki. Give us an insight. Into how bob myers and company dealt with the news of klay thompson literally hours before the nba draft that make their decision challenging more challenging looking at other guys like lamelo ball considering he was going to be available. Jay bob address that right afterwards instead. Look wiseman was our guy if he was there we were taken him and obviously if the emotions involved right before the big or unprecedented we. We really never seen anything like it. Before where a star player who has won titles in an organization gets another serious injury right before you gotta make a huge selection for your future but all along when you talk to people in the organization they love what wise men could give them and they're confident that once he gets into their system playing and learning alongside draymond that he can be maybe that bridge or potentially down the line Tracey's nobody knows for sure but wiseman all along was their guy in. I don't think anything that happened with. Clay change to focus when he was number two
Wolves take Edwards 1st; Wiseman, Ball go next
"With the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select anthony edwards from the university of georgia. So there is anthony edwards georgia bulldog now. A member of the minnesota timberwolves a lot of talk about the wolves might do. They've got new leadership in the front office coach. Saunders pick they have a lot of holes to fill instead they take edwards will pair him with karl anthony towns. The warriors took james wiseman second. The hornets drafted lamelo ball with the third overall pick but
Wolves select Edwards with No. 1 pick in delayed NBA draft
"The wolves open the NBA draft by taking Georgia shooting guard Anthony Edwards the SEC freshman of the year averaged nineteen point five point two rebounds and two point eight assists in thirty two games for the Bulldogs the warriors chose Memphis center James Wiseman with the second overall selection wise members nineteen point two ten point seven rebounds and three games with the Tigers as a freshman before leaving school to enter the draft point guard LaMelo ball was taken third overall by the Hornets the bulls grant Florida state forward Patrick Williams with a fourth choice and the Cavaliers won with Auburn forward Isaac coro as to fit selection I'm Dave very
"lamelo" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Lamelo ball. Let's check in with that. Tommy running either one or two up to hate it. You're going to possibly be the number one pick in this year's draft so so what is your workout regimen and and schedule been like pretty much. I was in detroit with. Jj is pretty much getting out of their a doing soon. Formed the weightlifting. Jim ten seconds nine eight six good. I want five four three two one. Good relax you know body right go back to the jim go watch a movie resto restart today so you guys are a basketball family. Tell me about what age in some of the drills you did and when basketball men Really when i was like three. That's when he was go foot hoop. And what did you say after that you say. Oh you say drills that'd be really didn't do drew said three years all three on the effect three. What was it like playing against professionals overseas. I go on to college plan with kids your age and playing over there. It's like the whole new style of play that you really can answer. Your arsenal learned a lot and grew from one of the things that i heard throughout this draft processes. When people see you won't he's tall and he's bigger than we thought.
NBA Draft 2020: Making the case for Anthony Edwards as best player in the class, ahead of LaMelo Ball
"Who's going to be the better defender long-term lamelo or is it going to be anthony edwards or is that just like a such an easy question. Edwards has more tools. I think to be like a ball pressure guy. I think that he's he's he's more explosive athlete. I think lamelo ceiling. I think is like i said in this video that i just put out a alpeleg now on the rings youtube about lamelo. I think that his ceiling is like savvy team defender. That's positionally kind of just holds the line I don't really ever. He's not the kind of athlete that could be disruptive or correct mistakes. He doesn't really have the bill to be somebody that could You know take on a a sturdier player. He's he six seven. But i i don't see him taking on like a like a four three like jimmy butler. He's definitely not guarding like stronger wings. With warning them. I think that edwards has a lot more flexibility on that front but then realistically right even a best case scenario these guys are probably two to three years away from playing defense right. You're asking a nineteen year old ball. Dahmer offensive player to learn how to play defense at the nba level in three years. From now. now you're like that's a long time to wait for candy. Angela get so weird spot to be in with the draft. I could just takes time for these young
NBA Mock Draft 3.0
"And we are back talking two thousand twenty mock draft three point o our last mock draft of the year. It's draft day draft morning. What better to unwrap and a mock draft on draft morning. it's the second round. Now now's the time to confess. I'm really terrible at projecting second rounds like you know my hit rate and some drafts has been like one two three picks in the second round. It's it's so hard to keep track of the first round the wheels to sort of come off and these picks happened like every two minutes. I it's hard to really keep track. I did my best. I project where. I think particular players can go. You definitely don't really get deep into this when you're talking the nba scouts in executives about what they're going to do in the second round. They're still trying to figure out the first round as well. So i've tried to find some fits there so this is reported more chad ford speculation. Here about what's happening. The second round starts with the dallas mavericks this pick via the warriors taking malachi. Flynn the san diego state. Junior point guard One of the guys that frankly could go ten spots higher in the draft. I actually really love malachi flynn. There's kind of a lot of point guards kind of later in the first round which may push him out a little bit. But i actually think he's the guy who could step in play right away. I would actually love him in dallas. I think that'd be great. Pick for dallas at thirty one at thirty two. The charlotte hornets are on the board. They're getting this pick via the cavs. Paul read the sophomore forward center out of depaul. Have them going thirty two. This is john. Hollinger's been super high on all year. I think he's another guy who can guard positions on the floor. I really like him. Actually think he brings some stuff offensively as well. I personally like him. Better than precious. I'm right now. Could turn out to be a terrible take. But it's kind of what i think and i definitely think he could be an excellent fit. I'm in charlotte. Especially if they end up with lamelo ball and they're gonna need to add a defensive big man. As part of that package at thirty-three the minnesota timberwolves around the board. This'll be the third pick because they have to. First round picks. Tillman the junior power forward at michigan state. Everybody loves this kid. He's he's one of these guys like high floor. Low ceiling. just does his work every day. Great rebound or plays hard. I'm ken defend going. Bring be a great locker room guy is gonna find some rotation that somewhere I like him in minnesota on a team. That is trying to go forward. I think he actually adds a bit of a veteran presence to the locker room. At thirty four the philadelphia seventy sixers are on the clock. That get this. Pick via the hawks. Isaiah joe the arkansas shooting guard who is one of the best shooters in this draft. Crazy range. High volume of three point shots philadelphia. Always in need shooters. When you're going to be playing. Ben simmons on this team he certainly constructs the floor. And i'd like isaiah joe there them at thirty five the sacramento kings Via the pistons. Dan dotson to kansas sophomore guard. Who is one of the quickest players in the draft. He's an elite score excels off the getting to the basket not a great shooter a bit undersized for his position not really a point guard that's why he slides a few spots higher but could be instant offense off the bench for sacrimento at thirty five at thirty six the philadelphia seventy sixers back on the clock this time via that pick from the mix jordan aura the louisville junior who also is one of the better shooters in this draft. He has good size vers position. Good length i'm not sure exactly what else he brings to the table besides shooting but again i'm just loading philly up i with shooters at the moment at thirty seven. The washington wizards are on the board. They get this pick via the chicago. Bulls tyler bay the junior ford out of colorado who is one of the best athletes in the strath super explosive. Really hard worker on the defensive end still just kinda coming along on the offensive. And then i think that's been a concern. He's he's one of those guys that might be a little bit of a twitter. Not sure exactly what position he plays in the pros that causes him to slide. A few picks in this draft think this is still really value. and by the way when. We're talking about a lot of these guys dotson. Tillman for example malachi flan. These guys could all end up in the first round as well. Just have them the second thirty eight new york knicks via the hornets janis ramsey. The texas tech freshman guard again volume score can shoot it a little bit We're just loading the knicks up now with backward guys that can score the basketball. I'm not sure who's going to defend in new york. But he's an intriguing prospect. He's only nineteen years old. And i certainly there's upside there with the thirtieth pick in the draft at thirty nine the new orleans. Pelicans selecting this pick for the wizards. Daniela touro the minnesota sophomore center. Who had a really really strong summer season one of the more improved players in the country very skilled at big man. I'm great size. Adding just bore skill in size to this pelicans roster i'm at the moment If you remember earlier jalen smith. I'm selected at thirteen at forty. The grizzlies are on the board. This pick via the silence. This is the first pick that the grizzlies have been able to make in the twenty twenty. Nba draft a doco as a bouquet. The kansas center. Big guy seven. Seven wingspan seven footer. Really good athlete actually just dominant player in the pain. Terrible free throw. Shooter doesn't really do anything facing the basket. But when you have that size and length and athleticism. I think you get something done in. The and kind of reminds me deondraye jordan. A little bit and a little bit surprised. He doesn't go higher. I get there seems to be a penalty on the big minner plane or pain. Right now in the draft at forty one san antonio spurs back on the on the board yama dr the israeli guard nineteen year old for hop. Well tel-aviv and you know. He's such an intriguing prospect because he plays his butt off. His incredible energy is just making a difference when he's out there but he's not really a point guard. He's kind of more of a two guard in a point guards body. He's not like a great shooter. I'm athletically he's actually not bad at all but that lack of a jump shot kinda undersized i position that makes him more of a second round prospect at he absolutely wants to leave israel and come to the nba. And if it's the g. league next year and so he could be an interesting prospect for san antonio developed down the road
Breaking Down Tonights NBA Draft: The Players, The Picks, and Virtual Fashion
"Mike schmidts. Thank you for joining me mandy day that you work towards every single year has finally arrived. Yeah i feel like this is our our super bowl and we've been waiting for this forever. I we thought it was going to be in june. And then maybe october and now here in november so you know i think teams and myself are very excited to get this one of the books. Mike schmidts is an nba draft analyst for espn. And he's been traveling the world scouting nba prospects for nearly a decade. I love the nba. draft personally. I went to the draft at the garden. Growing up in new york as a sad knicks fan and i still love the draft. Which tells you something about my own personal pathologies. The weirdness of this draft mike. You said it. This is going to be held in a way that has never been seen before. It's going to be entirely remote adam. Silver the commissioner. Mark tatum the deputy commissioner. They're going to be reading out. Picks live from espn studios in bristol. Where you are right now. So tell me what it's been like for teams and for players to go through this whole draft process in the midst of a global pandemic. It's been very very challenging for teams and players alike from the team side. They're used to having march madness the nba draft. Combine tournaments like portsmouth invitational. Which is where you see. You know a jimmy butler and some of these seniors pop up. They're able to have their individual workouts one on one workouts team workouts. I really have these guys in their building and this pre-draft process that just simply hasn't been the case so think you have teams kind of relying on a lot of these zoom calls right. We've all been kind of zoom jail more or less for the last few months You know they're relying on film. They're relying on intel and then from the players perspective. I think they just want to finally hear their name called. I mean this is the moment that they've been waiting for their entire lives. And so i feel a lot of these kids just having to have this. Push back and push back in push-back. They've each had very different circumstances. I mean some guys are like in the gym working out with nba players. Every day. some are with you know their brother and their cousin and some empty. Jim just one on getting workout. Since so it's been very strange. I guess the thing. I think of when i think about what might be lost in this iteration of the draft like are they going to be suits mike. Are we gonna get like nba draft fashion. That we've been blessed by in the past. Oh we're getting it it's coming it's coming virtually you're not gonna see that same strut the same level of excitement that we generally get in barklays within walking up on the stage but from everything i've seen out on social media everything i've heard. I think the suit game is still going to be strong. Yeah i just want if one of those guys wanna go retro and bring back like the seventeen but in suit. I just wanna make sure. The camera frame contains all seventeen of those budgets. We're gonna do everything we can to get that done. I hope we really really highlight the fashion. Because that that might steal the night to be honest i want to take a deep dive into the top three players in the draft to start here because the three of them. You've been talking about relentlessly for months. Now lamelo ball. James wiseman anthony edwards. They're all still in play for the number one overall pick which belongs of course to the minnesota timberwolves and i want to start with lamelo because we know as the brother lonzo the son of lavar and he chose to play overseas australia instead of going to the college game but for the uninitiated ear. What is lamelo offered to whichever team does end up selecting him tonight. I think he's the best prospect in the draft. Honestly i think if he played at duke kentucky enter any big name college program and he didn't have some of the questions about kind of the circus that has surrounded him at times in his life. I think he would be the runaway number. One pick in terms of his game. I mean he's a big point guard. Six seven close to six foot. Eight is one of the youngest players in the draft. Who was a late bloomer. So i think people remember him as the young you know twelve year old looking kid bomb and half court shots but he's really grown into his frame as great size has the ball on a string as a ball handler. He's incredibly shifty and smooth and his playmaking is ridiculous. The way he sees the game is really really special.
NBA Draft Rumor Mill
"Two thousand and twenty. Nba draft rumors whether those trade rumors talking about where we're hearing particular players going. We've talked about all the big names already. We've talked about hard and we talked about chris. Paul we've talked about dennis schroder. We've talked about russell westbrook. We talked about minnesota. We talked about golden state. We talked about charlotte. The bulls are sitting there at four. And it's been really interesting. Dinnie obvious name's been floated about. I've heard from multiple sources that that is sheer speculation because of their general manager. Who's an international guy. And what he did in. Denver has nothing to actually do connected with this pick. La bella ball could be there for chicago. Which would be very interesting in the back court that they currently have there. And i've heard a lot of therese albert. I'm here as well as a culture guy and one of the big things that chicago is focusing on his culture right. Now who do you see taking at ford. They have a guy. I applaud the bulls because they have really done a good job of not telegraphing. What they're doing you know they've been connected to a lot of these guys. They've done an above average job. Relative to when teams are leaky of keeping this close to the best And so it's who they end up with. I think if ball is there he makes tons of sense. That's a nice fit with you guys have and the need for a passer and the fact that there are other scorers on the roster where he's not gonna act like be the only guy who's creating anything that's a pretty nice fit so we'll see if he's there we dug into lamelo earlier so i'm not gonna harp on that fit but let's say he's not there and i think allah is a real option. I agree that some of it is the speculation but he does kinda fit their roster as well and i've heard again obi topping. Who's come up for them. A anthony grants Coach dayton was on billy donovan staff previously thunder. So they're obviously going to be well informed about top into. There's some thought that billy donovan can have some input on what they do here. But it's hard to know exactly what his type of player is is. In oklahoma city you had prestige san prestige Decisions with burst now. So how burton has come up another dark horse. I think for that spot. And i'm still not entirely sure what to make of this but it's patrick williams who i know there's at least some degree real interest there. Would they take him at four. It wouldn't be like totally crazy. At this point. It would be high for him. But i mean maybe that's their secret. They have their sleeve It's really tough for me to predict too but right now my guess would be that if there is no ball. I still lean audio. But i don't think it's like a foregone conclusion. I think people are trying to figure chicago right now. Let's talk about patrick williams because it seems to be a foregone conclusion that everybody thinks detroit's taking him it's of and so now the question is will even be there at seven which you know a few weeks ago probably would have been seen as madness. But i've heard talk that. Atlanta is interested in him. I've heard talk. That cleveland is now interested in him. The most of the talking. Cleveland centers around obi top in and dinnie omnia there. And now you're mentioning chicago at four with patrick williams heck widen on the warriors taking to. Is you know patrick williams is. This is the next upside guy right like after you talk about ball edwards and weisman. I think mini scouts see him the next guy he only averaged nine points a game at florida state but that he has this big big ceiling right that he could that he could fit into as a team. Just as a prospect. Is it possible. He's getting over hyped at this point. Do you really see him. As a player that has the next highest ceiling in this draft after ball edwards. In wiseman i have to admit like. I'm not all the way there with him. I have had him graded as a lottery. Guy for a long time towards the end the college season i was like that guy is gonna go ten to twelve. And that's where i had him now. Yeah i didn't expect this type of leap. I guess we might have predicted it because team sent to be a little bit predictable this time of year. You know the the upside guy always the guy. It's without quite john right now but yeah. I think he's very much an idea. And it's worth re-emphasizing that you know. His his body obviously is really promising in terms of how it will hold up defensively. He's going to be versatile. On that end he will have to get a little bit more agile laterally but his is. The value so young is really helpful. Obviously a big factor. You know being the youngest college player in this draft so between that and then you see flashes were really had a pull up jumper. He's did pretty well from the line. I think there's a pretty good chance. He's an above average three point shooter in now you're talking about well. Hey maybe this is a floor spacing combo forward. You can check out. He'll buck shots. He will play good team. Defense and be switchable. That's a pretty in this draft especially when we're like how do we find like even just like a high level player that case is pretty egypt's let's let's say we take that case for. I mean that's a pretty comparable high and dry or if not better. So i see it what i do it at four. I don't know but i understand why this is happening. And i think there teams that you might wanna come up and get him. And that's probably what the pushing them up. The board as well wants wants everybody found out. Detroit was the floor. Change the conversation. It really does. and there. Is this weird psychological dynamic in the draft. That i love it every year. You know jeremy because this thing takes hold oh you like him at seven now. Maybe we at six like there. Is this conversation that starts to happen with these with these boards. And so you know there's so much data and there's so much scouting that's put into this. But the psychology of the draft is the most fascinating fascinating
"lamelo" Discussed on The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy
"Overseas that's in your draft class. Lamelo Ball. Obviously, he gets talked about a lot. I was curious for you what it was like when you guys would get to match up in in, you get to play against him what was that like for you and? Any thoughts on his game? like I. said, I think you know I think the great player just his combination of size and you know vision is. Unmatched when we played over there. One thing I mean we want. We want to be once twice three games. Warm both the gangs so. was definitely good matchups high intensity we both competed. He kind of a different situation that I was in on. So you know the outcomes you know very after games, but you know it was point speeding. Being that of you guys were Americans playing overseas did you guys kind of bond all over that same shared commonality where he you know you're both making that transition as a young athletes young men going overseas to a whole different world did you did you guys bond all over that and become friends little? For sure you know we were friends before we even went overseas so I know for about five years now four or five years. So even when you're over there. All the time we talk pretty much every day every other day now. So that's been one of my friends you know besides like basketball going to. must go to hear glad at the two year EVOLA. World Friendship especially had.
"lamelo" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Anyway. Yeah, that's got to change to totally agree. Do you have lamelo number on your board? I still do ya how far is the difference between him and I believe you have Killian Haslett number to Killian's actually in like another dog. Here right now. It's like him and a few other people but Killian's moved up a bit. It's like, you know if lamelo is 100 Killian maybe was it like ninety or so before now? He's probably like 9:50 before so he's closing the Gap separating himself. I think a little bit from the other guys. I just still have lamelo slightly above just because Killian's non-existent right-hand page kind of I just you know, that that's ours me a little bit non-existent right hand that leads to much less shiftiness with ball and just creativity off as a ball-handler to be able to create that separation that you need at the NBA level. I think that like I'm lower on Killian than you are because of that in a real way and because I have a little bit more concern is the song jumper then you do which we talked about at length on this podcast before and I think we need to like do a rehash of that necessarily but yeah, I think that that that's kind of the key difference here. Yep. That whereas I think Killian may end up being more of a secondary creator. Lamelo has the ball-handling ability the shiftiness the Poise the dexterity and the ability to read the second and third choice of Defense to actually be a primary Creator at the end of the day. Yeah, like if you're forcing Killian to his right? He's either just going to have a simple kick out to the perimeter or he's going to go for a step back or sidestep. He's not going to really be pretty much pressure on the rim and he's not going to be I you know having a hook pass over the shoulder or something like that. But if you if you force, let me know either way. He he can do that..
NBA mock draft: Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball as top pick?
"Minnesota Timberwolves had these third worst record this season but won the lottery last night and we'll select first overall in the upcoming NDA draft. lamelo ball has been consistently ranked in the top three prospects. This year's draft and is now projected to go number one overall in this warnings latest mock draft. So Shannon showed the wolf take. That's the question. SKIP. They moved heaven and earth to get the annual Russell. They have Kat Karl Anthony towns they have Andrew. Wiggins. Mellow. Foot. Compatible with very creative thing is that shot is on off the dogs like his brother Lonzo. Beating, people out the dribbling what's the unknowns they've only seen him for twelve games. Now, he's relatively nineteen years of age I. Think Turns Nineteen Couple Days Tomorrow Okay, yeah? But if you look at it all the top picks, you look Anthony Edwards, he's a guard top top in the when he was player of the year this year I think he's I think he's a three and then James Wiseman. semple. Put One. Nineteen and ten before he was A. Re declared ineligible Yup. Could Lamelo in the Angelo play together? Bass. The question skill that really that's what it comes down to. It's not about Oh, man, he was good. He can do that Kenny play together because you gave up and you have this guy he on Amax Contract Dry d? Rosana mags contract Anthony towns. contract. So Somebody willing to move is somebody will wars the Melo over that? No more big deal with me. So buddy I I would I would move. But if I if I gotta stay there probably I probably would take. I'm taking him I. Don't know what it is about me and these bonkers.
"lamelo" Discussed on ESPN Daily
"Of this in mind. Tim? How do you see that bizarre environment and the circus around the mellow shaping the interest in him at number one overall. I in a weird way. This whole thing helps him because. There's not a real body of work that they can point to for for many of these guys there isn't. A very big resume when the one done players played less than a full season they didn't get to play under the bright lights and show what they do under pressure. So I almost feel like it's it's a the environment is ripe for somebody, take a flyer and say, Hey, this kid's physical talent. His skills are off the charts we can teach him to shoot he's going to get stronger. Uncertainty, in the sort of. Lack of tape that they have on all these guys. Lead to him being. If not number one at least very high up there. And I guess. The last question is. Is the team that drafts lamelo drafting Lavar too. I think there are a lot of people asking that and they're asking it openly because they've talked about how you know the question is, does your dad come with you and right? It's his dad. Yeah. You know in some way, his dad is going to be there. And I think that The question they have to answer is whether lamelo talent. Supersedes. Any concerns? They have about the dad's influence and it feels like the answer to that? Is that that? Yes, they're gonNA feel that lamelo talent is worth whatever risk lavar presents. Well, all of which is to say I, look forward to Lavar and Lamelo and you remaining in our lives. I do too. Thank you..
"lamelo" Discussed on ESPN Daily
"I'm trying to be number one pay for the twenty twenty derives. So started playing since I was three. So it's dream man and then that's everybody's going to be number one pick an NBA. Tonight the hopes and dreams of fourteen. MBA franchises will hinge on a set of bouncing ping pong balls that will decide their fate. The player who many think is the ultimate prize. In eighteen year old kid who has been in the public eye for years and yet somehow has remained largely unknown. Today ESPN senior writer Tim qn brings us an up close look at Lamelo Ball and tells us whether the youngest ball brother can ever live up to the hype that comes with being part of basketball's most famous or infamous family. I'm Pablo Tori. It's Thursday August twentieth? This. Is ESPN. Tim Thank you so much for joining me. Man I appreciate it. Hey, I'm glad to be here. Pablo thank you. So I wanted to have you on today because tonight is the NBA draft lottery when we find out which team may be, golden, STATE MAYBE CLEVELAND MAYBE MINNESOTA GETS the number one overall pick and I have to admit something to you first off when Lavar Ball went on take in June of last year to declare that his youngest son Lamelo would be number. One overall pick now is going to be number one, pick two, thousand, twenty. Because He's that good I can guarantee you because he had to keep going number one number one I laughed I did not believe him but Lamelo the subject of your ESPN cover story out today is not only in the mix for the top pick. Now he is as you right the most famous player in the two thousand, twenty draft in the most famous mystery in basketball. What did you mean by that? Well the mystery part Kinda gets what your reaction was when you heard, Lavar. The mystery is that this kid has been in our consciousness for so long because of the family. Because of Lavar vict- The basketball has become sort of a sidebar to who he is, and so I had the same reaction when we talked about assigning this story, I was like wait he's he's really that good. You know I don't know that the average American basketball fan has been educated on Lamelo ball in the last few years he played the crazy stint in Lithuania he played in various off the grid leagues that nobody's heard of many went to Australia. And then he was like this revelation like, oh, my gosh, she's putting up triple doubles. He's fantastic. He's a six seven point guard. So the mystery part is that he might be. The first American draft, pick high draft pick who's never played a significant game in his own country he's never played in. In College, the the Ncaa Tournament or you know. Do, you never played we just we haven't seen him. We just don't. We just don't know his game. So the mystery is kind of tied up in the fame. I want to know about Lamelo the person where and when did you meet up with him and what was he like? we'll, PABLO I want to know about him too but. I spent a lot of time with him I. I spent five days in Australia in January of before everything changed in the world back when we could. We could still travel I kinda describe him as finks like he's just this really calm doesn't give much away. Your game is still a little bit of a mystery to fans in the United States. Yeah. What can they expect to see? Ya. To Watch, see themselves in the story I kind of describe a conversation with him as a sort of being privy to someone's internal monologue because he. Just. Speaks in this stream of consciousness that usually is relevant to the question that's being asked but not always and I found him entertaining and I found myself constantly saying he's eighteen. He's eighteen. It was like this running scroll in my head. You know he was there with Jermaine Jackson, a former NBA point guard who is now his? Trainer Manager Mentor who lived with him down there, and we just kind of hung out. We went to see Lamelo horse city that he bought and and you know just the horse named Lamelo Lamelo went to see Lamelo I was gonna ask what was the horse's name but of course, it's Lamelo. Yes. Keeps things. Simple. So he is very polite We went to the same cafe three times, and once he pulled the veteran move of like going to the waitress and paying. under the guise of going to the bathroom you know like. For the table and I thought, Hey, you know that's that's pretty cool for someone eighteen. So that veteran savvy with the credit card I. Mean I have friends who will tell you that I learned that move at age thirty four and I am thirty four years old. So there is a bit of ahead of the curve kind of dynamic with Lamelo, but the trajectory tim that you mentioned there. So winding in. So crazy. Let's start at the beginning, what was it like not just for a Lamelo but for older brothers, Lonzo and Liangelo as well to grow up under the tutelage of Lavar Ball. Basketball Basketball basketball that was their life jump high one hand. Go. To a cut money. Yes. They described the after school seen at their houses being like a basketball camp every day. Lavar was a personal trainer. So he talked incessantly about having these three sons that he knew we're going to be NBA players in that was the goal from before they were born. Lamelo was the prodigy. There were videos of him, dribbling between his legs and behind his back and all that when he was three and four years old and you know he remembers signing his first autograph at four or five. He became this sort of you know in the basketball world this this kind of sensation and obviously that ramped up when he he skipped eighth grade and enrolled in in high school. So, that he could play with his brothers Liangelo and Lonzo at Chino hills high school as a freshman. They became this. You know this spectacle. They had you know people lined up in the parking lot hours before games to see these guys and you know he was shooting from half court dribbling breaking people's ankles. He had this flair about him even then that I think has carried with him and has also provided sort of this. Installation in his life you know he's been so good for so long and he's been part of this world for so long that. That's who he is. He's this basketball player and there hasn't been perhaps as much development in other parts of his personality because. All has been everything. So you described like this. Carnival Barker. kind of energy flowing through this households and they deliver on the promise of that advertising. What is lamello score was ninety plus at one point. Sophomore Ninety to ninety two but who's counting I mean that's insane. That is insane. Tem Lamelo has.
"lamelo" Discussed on The Full 48
"Jonathan Wasserman Johny Waas Always good to see. This is earlier than usual. I think I'll think of ever had you in November early appearance for the WAAS. lamelo calls ause I guess Lamelo I mean listen you know it would. It takes a lot for me to bring you in at this early stage of the year when mock drafts are still really squishy. We haven't really seen these guys play. Lamelo Lamelo was happening. I needed you here. And it's real to me. Yeah so thank. Thank you for doing this as per usual as I often tell L. U. The listeners I'm not a drafts a person I'm not. I'M NOT JUST I. I don't have the capacity all the time span the mental space I I'm all NBA. All the time I need to straighten me out on these things so would just talk to Mir inflator at length about her lamelo feature phenomenal story about Lamelo. The person about the player player. He's evolving but I feel like we're last we left the ball family in TV drama parlance. I felt like we were down to one ball Lonzo so who was scuffling along trying to get healthy. Find his way and the other brothers. Just kind of you know fallen off a cliff somewhere in Lithuania at suddenly I wake up one day and Lamelo Ball. Paul is number three in your mock draft for twenty twenty I think. ESPN's top three. He has leapt up what happened. I thought the narrative has really changed the questions I have changed from is Lamello alleged. Mba Prospect to is he an all-star prospect. Well and I mean it's listen to pro game watching him do against pros I know it's the NBL but There are former. Mba guys. There are twenty eight year old guys and he is one of the best players on the floor every single single time and you just get a sense that he is kind of matured. I mean his game is game is obviously good like he was number six on my board before the season just because because I knew pupa so talented so skilled. But he didn't know how it would translate. You didn't know if it was you know towns is not the whole story here when you're evaluating guys resin and so we're seeing now that he's been able to convert the skill and talent and make guys around him better his he's got a new professionalism to his approach approach just even listen to interview. He's answering questions. The right way you just you know. I think one of the things that helped him was he was in the spotlight so early. He's kind of like sick of all the being on. TV and the cameras. That didn't do it for him as much as it used to. And he's kind of figuring out from what happened with his brother with all the negative publicity his his family got the. He's got to change something. He's got to act a little differently and and he's kind of overall the celebrity and and now he's really into becoming a pro basketball player and it's really showing. Yeah it's interesting and I talked about a lot of what her story is about is that you know he's He's he's he's. He's like Internet famous before he's basketball famous and he's grown up in the spotlight and he's not exactly comfortable with it but Mirren said he's all about the basketball like as much as Lavar production of pushing his kids all this direction I'm he really has embraced it in a way. That's not it's not begrudging. It's not just because I'm good at it like it. Seems like there's a real passion for the game. They're totally out. This guy's just bleeds basketball L.. And when we've seen over the years you know the the half court pull ups and all that stuff and that's what scouts will worry about was how would he how would he bring his style style of play. How would that translate to play with guys? We're planning for paychecks and playing for their careers and the thing that stood out with him. He's playing the right way. I mean we're not seeing those half court pull ups. We're not seeing him. Dance around with the ball. Seventeen seconds and then take a step back. He's playing the RAW. He's he's looks like he's putting a real emphasis on getting guys involved I and and then when he gets his opportunity you know he'll go to his own shot but that's really what Saddam most. He's he's acting like you know it's his job to set the table. Set the offense and get his second and truly coming off. Well he's he's listening to six eight at age. Eighteen probably still growing. So he's he's in that mold of the you know Luca Danni to Mir mentioned scouts are already starting to whisper. Executive starting to whisper look which is a really high bar? And I'm not sure that's that's fair to him But it is in that mold of this this Modern Day kind of point mutants note like the Lebron's or Kevin Durant like these ball handling link like durant never really played the point but I mean he could But guys who were in that six seven six eight range who you know the Benjamins who we don't know if they are point forward point guard whatever we just. I know that they're really really tall. And they hand the ball well and and they're they're not they're just as a gimmick but they truly can do it and what you're saying is it sounds to me like he truly really. What however we're whatever we're going to call his position in this era of its key point in talent mutant alright trademarks right now on November nineteenth? But but he's he's he's going to arrive in the as a primary ball handler and playmaker. Yeah Oh you want the ball in his hands and one of the things when when you when you do scouting a passing translates like high Q.. Passing and that's what he has. He just He makes reads and not only just threes. But he's got the skill the way we see trey and Luca you know. They could dish with both hands. They could dish on the move. They have the division and they could deliver the full court pass. They could deliver the touch. Pass Passover todd they just. He's got a whole passing arsenal lockdown. Now the question with him is is really scoring upside shots. A little shaky. He doesn't have much of a mid range game. You rely so much on floater. Even he takes twenty-foot floaters but you can make but they're really low percent shots but if all else fails his passing. Housing was going to translate and like you said he's six eight handling the ball he's going to be able to execute those passes over most point guards in the league so I think he's got a really really high floor now. The question Russian scouts have to ask is. How much is he going to improve as a score with this? pull up game with his shooting with his finishing at the Rim and I guess his defense is still a work in progress as well. Though you'll Mirren's ends assessment from being around him for a couple of weeks is he'll get there like the requisite You know a building blocks are there but you know there's obviously a sophistication. Mba Va defenses to that you kind of have to learn how to play Roland. Yeah I think when we evaluate guards particularly this age. It's like how many guards eighteen are going to make an impact on defense very few and he's got those instincts where he can pick up. Those steals in the anticipates steals inbound passes Lonzo just as great ball skill instincts with with steals and blocks. And that's he's he's GonNa pick up defensive stats now. He's got to improve like every other teenager on staying in front of his man and making the right rotations not drifting leaving his guy in the corner wide. Open to to not get sucked in those type of things. But it's not alarming enough where we really question like. Is he going to liability on defense. Yeah plus you know the built in advantage of being you know six eight with a wingspan and everything else. If you assume you're guarding the point guards you gotta stay with them in terms of foot speed and lateral movement. But I mean he's going to be able to kind of cover a a lot of ground switchable and I mean all those things would seem to be good indicators. Yeah I'm curious. I'm really curious to see how he continues to physically develop because even if you just look at pictures of Ah do even looking at his face. His face looks older and he's got taller and he just looks like a different guy from two years ago physically. So who knows what he's GonNa look like when he's twenty and he's twenty four is going to be somebody you know six as he'd be able to guard wings because I mean I guess sometimes we do question his foot speed around the Berman. He does get cooked a little bit too Veasley off the dribble by his body keeps going. I mean he is going to be a pretty flexible interchangeable type of defender. Yeah how hard is it to judge his his his prospects his ability to play the NBA level when he's playing in the NBA again the NBL National Basketball League Nineteen League in Australia. I and I think what's one team in New Zealand primarily Australia. Andrew Bogut is playing there As Mirren mentioned Aaron Brooks Former rocket former timber wolves some other teams. He's bounced around the Bulls He's one of lamelo teammates so there are there's some MBA talent there. They are a grown men playing the game there but where where's the NBL comparing two Euroleague and and you know wherever like how do we assess it. Yeah I'm always the guy who like. Oh they're grown men. It's a big difference from 'cause the NBA NBL. The L.. Is Not as good as I thought it would be coming in like the. MVP last year was bryce cotton who had a cup of coffee with the Utah Jazz. I think Providence Guard the best players in the NBA. I don't really have a chance in the NBA anymore And having said that he still he's still even though he's eighteen in those guys is our older he's he's still one of the best players so that is definitely the challenge of evaluating his performance against older guys who aren't NBA caliber. And then when you watch these college college kids and and so far the codge who's GonNa competing against for draft position. Scouts are going to be deciding between Anthony North Carolina Lamelo. It's it's going to be challenging counting. But he is playing as well as you could possibly I. I can't imagine being any better than he is right now in the he's been not only as he put up pretty good the numbers but I think he's made a legitimate impact. He's creating easy shots for his teammates and again whether they're NBA. Talent or just twenty eight year old guys who who used to play in the NBA. It's still very impressive. It's not an NBA does not Europe. Euroleague is definitely higher. I it's probably on par with some of the mid range college teams maybe better but regardless his performance is still pretty impressive compared to the G. League like where's the NBA versus the G.. League is is that is that is really weird. I always have. I always have trouble. I'm always sceptical when somebody gives definitive answer like oh the G. League is this much I don't know it's tough to say with their within within the same ballpark I'd say he probably put a bigger numbers if he was in the G. League. Actually we'd been up bigger numbers to more freedom in other playing for less the it'd you'd have a lot more of a green light to do those dance moves but I think that's why it's a good thing that he's not in the G. League actually and he isn't a Pro League with Real Coaching coaching and real motivation to win games. Where it's not always like that energy like their season ends in February? So then there's going to be this lull where we're going to see all the college kids and the top college prospects still playing Games in the conference tournaments and March madness and all this and you know the the book will close on Lamelo. Then how do you think that may affect you know draft positioning in that in that period of time I think by then it's going to be agreed upon by everybody that he's like top five guy right and then you have to for these top lottery. Teams were making like franchise altering decisions. It's going to be eye of the beholder. How do you evaluate him for says the top college guys and some of the college guys? I'll say this right now. Before coming into this year I would have said. This was a week draft. And I hate to change my opinion so fast and make knee-jerk jerk reactions to like three games against mostly inferior competition but I feel a lot better. Not only of the top guys been really good. But there's some other guys who have already started popping up like Terry smacky from Kentucky. Houston it'd be in the top five mix Jaden McDonald from Washington. These are guys. Who are? You weren't sure about and suddenly they look like five towns..
"lamelo" Discussed on The Full 48
"It's funny because like I jotted down all these notes For for the podcast and like the third line. I have after sitting you know asking you about Australia versus the rainy. Whatever else have a question? I'm sitting here. It says as mellow happy that was. It's the one thing that I kept coming back to as I read the story. And it's it's such a hard question I think I look at a lot of prospects. His aged like half of them. Don't really love basketball. They just WanNa be famous and they just WanNa get on ball. Is Life like they don't genuinely like breathe sleep eat basketball half of them like really do love this and would die for this. I just it's hard to know you know. And like we talk about their. You know their height and their F- lettuce system but we don't really talk about like are they happy. That's a human side of the story just never really posed and the unfortunate part about mellow is that people just look at his face and they try try to answer that question if he and. That's why I think a lot of time. He's misunderstood and he's in no one situations if he's got the STOIC Lonzo blink face they're like oh is he upset is he sat. Does he hated life. What's going on if he's happy they're like oh is he not focused? Does he not take direction. Is He not listening so I think mellow is so used to his literal face. Banging dissected for some clue as to whether he is okay or not has been tough and I I give him so much credit. I cannot imagine what type of person I would be with that. You know camera rolling on me. Twenty four seven so as I mentioned he is at this point. You mentioned it as well. He's projected as a top picnics. June possibly top-three our Jonathan Wasserman has also who will join the podcast. A little bit has also placed him third in his in his latest mock draft. Course these things things are are ever changing in the months to come but it looks like he will you know he'll be in the NBA before too long. Lonzo is a rocky start to his career in part because as of injury but seems to be finding New Orleans Liangelo went with Lamelo Luthuania whereas Liangelo. Now Liangelo is in Australia. When I was there Again the family was there for that week. It was really strange. I don't know if he's playing or not or done but he was just like in sweats But the funny thing was well I don't know if I WANNA call funny but Lavar taken selfish right so is Liangelo fans are coming up to Liangelo and asking for his picture. I just truly really wonder what he feels. Because it's like why are they asking for my photo. But that's what I mean. It's it's to your point about being a basketball not basketball celebrity a celebrity before you are a basketball celebrity so he still gets photos and things but he's got to be wondering what's my identity. You know If you want to play in Lithuania Lina from next ten years he absolutely could. I don't know I. I'm waiting for the long foreman on Liangelo because maybe lamelo would not have gone to Lithuanian and been pulled out of high. School had leangelo not shoplifted tunnel. That is like the thing that triggered everything that nobody really talks about But that's when everything started to change I think yeah. No it's interesting. Those things came in in you know. In a similar period of time The China incident Atlanta being yanked from UCLA lamelo being yanked from from high school in. Yeah but there are. There's some linkages between them and yeah Interesting couple of quick ones before I let you go because there's some I'm just fund international. Travel stuff here. The OREO mcflurry. I'm not a McDonald's Guy Avenue McDonald's in like twenty years but like the mcflurry apparently according to you and end Lamelo is better in Australia. Fire I mean I was just. It's funny 'cause I don't really McDonald's but it was there and I was like well for research purposes who says I'm GonNa have this and so many cookies I mean it was just overflowing with cookies. it would just more generous with the Orioles in the mcflurry Australia Stralia. They're so generous like crumbling down his shirt and it made me laugh so much because it's so much what we're talking about right like okay. He's a he's famous he's he's going to NBA. He's just a kid. He just wants his flurry. Yeah and you recharge your rental car because you were freaked out. So I can relate to this so they drive of course on the other side of the road and with the steering wheel on the other side of the car. I did this in Ireland a couple of summers ago and I was just white knuckled fucking terrified that I was going to kill us all it. It just was the most uncomfortable experience you cannot retrain your brain. I do not blame you for returning the rental car. God absolute breakdown. I was like you know what I just kept saying myself. You'RE GONNA make it you're GONNA make it they're gonNA make it to wall and Gong and you're GonNa make it in one piece and I was so like nervous because you can't judge the distance of your car. I just remember like almost hitting things on the left side because I can't judge the distance because I'm so used to it and the things that we do for journalism honestly man well. Yeah from Lithuania. Where you're driving on icy roads where you thought you might just slide off into a dark ditch? Some night I still. I don't know I'm grateful. You're you're still alive and I'm so glad because then I wouldn't be on this pod exactly grateful you're still with us. You have survived these heroines. There's there's no parts of the world while chasing the ball family. Fearlessly through gyms and beaches and icy roads the story again is scrolling scrolling back to life of Lamelo You can find on a bleacher report right now by your failure. It's a phenomenal read. Your stuff was great. This is the one you were there awards for the first the Mellow Story. I believe in this one Should do the same. This is just a fantastic job. Great read Lamelo is going to be a just a the obvious source of curiosity for some time to come again folks. We will have Jonathan Wasserman up shortly to talk about the draft and we're Lamelo falls in there and What what he might be bringing to the table and how scouts are seeing him and all of that But Mirren this has been great..