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"lamella" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:28 min | 6 months ago

"lamella" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Trade you Donovan Mitchell for drew holiday right now. Interesting. Who says no? I mean, if you're in the fucking camera. If you're a Utah, I'm not doing that deal. I want pics and Milwaukee doesn't have the assets to get who's more of a winning player. I have drew ranked higher than Donald Trump. So I might have been messing around with the trade value column for three, four hours in the okay. I mean, without words, just the rankings. I don't know if I'm capable of. So you're saying if you're making that deal, if you're a Utah, you're trying to still win. If you're Milwaukee, I think you hang up. Really hang up. I think I'd rather have drew Holliday than Donovan mentioned. I'm trying to win a title with Giannis. You don't even see that of Mitchell played defense in a playoff series ever in his life. But is that because he's unhappy or wants to push his way out of Utah? What does that mean? Are you competitive or are you not competitive? I mean, that's disappointing. Like Mitchell at Louisville, in college. I think Jihad is a better player. I do. So with Mitchell, so at Louisville in college, he was busting his ass on defense. He was really good earlier. Early in career with the jazz, he did that. I interviewed him last year, and he talked to me about how the conditioning aspect that's been the toughest thing for him to learn in the NBA. How to know when to take rest and everything. I wonder if it's kind of a conditioning issue that's playing into the poor effort. With somebody like him, or he's just not good defensively. I just be that too. He also small. No matter how good you are, you're always going to I would rather have drew holiday than diamond Mitchell. I wouldn't. I am on the record. Mitchell, Mitchell scoring. I still believe in Mitchell. I'm buying Mitchell stock if you're selling it. We dread that Darius Garland or Donovan Mitchell. Darius Garland, younger. Right, better deal. But think about this. And if you're a Cleveland, I wouldn't want to trade for Mitchell. I don't think he's going to want to stay there long term. Mitchell's a big scene. LaMelo Ball or dine of a Mitchell. Lamella ball on The Rookie deal. Factoring that in, yes. Would you rather Pascal siakam or Donovan Mitchell? That's interesting. You'd rather have them. I would too. I'd rather have him, yeah. But that is that's an interesting thought, though, for Toronto, considering their roster. And you'd rather have Brandon Ingram than Mitchell at this point in their career. Oh, I love Ingram. You know I love Ingram. We'd rather have dame Lillard, Donovan Mitchell. Or we're assuming dean comes back as dame, healthy, the abdomen. And we're assuming that or is that in question? This is my point is, I don't think people think, oh, they trade Mitchell. I don't know if his value is anything close to what people seem to think. And so many teams have guards. Or shot creators, right? And I think for Utah, Danny ainge is gonna feel out the market. And it's very possible he feels that Rudy Gobert can bring in a greater return than Donovan Mitchell for all the reasons that we're talking about the concerns about his defense, the size, will he stay on this new team and the fact is, is that what somebody like him, how many teams need a guard? I think Danny goes to Orlando and says, give me all your white guys for Donovan Mitchell. In a Franz Wagner? We're going back to the old 80s. Jazz. 75% white guys again. I wonder what the highest pick is that a team would give up for Mitchell. Oh, the reason I brought up Mitchell well, Zach lavine.

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"lamella" Discussed on Men In Blazers

Men In Blazers

06:20 min | 6 months ago

"lamella" Discussed on Men In Blazers

"It's going to be a mission. It is a hedge fund that is the owner of the club. This couldn't happen in American sports. It's not him. So anyway, interesting. It is Taylor leash and Taylor mason. Taylor makes us feel good. Here's the, I mean, the policy thing is a conversation that may come up in the questions. I mean, it is kind of fascinating. There is a sense that they're going to invest there will be a transfer kitty, but for the overhaul to replace some of the bodies that are outgoing across that defensive line, there's a sense in football circles that it's sell to buy. And you look at the assets that Chelsea have. And there's not a lot of Werner is the one they'd love to move, but there's not a lot of people swooping in for Werner. And then you look at there's a sense of ZH. And politics is fascinating cases. You kind of want him if you're an American owner to you've got The Crown jewel of the American on the men's side of the American ecology and fascinated to see exactly what does go down, but right now it is all at a speculation and we can speculate more, but we should do it. By the way, I do want to mark this incredible moment. More than half the Premier League 20 teams next season, but the return of SHAD Kahn's Fulham for 38 games at least and Bournemouth being part owned by Chicago and Matt hull sizer means that half of the 20 teams have an American owner of American sharing in their leadership, which is incredible. Including four of the big 6, which, I mean, these are just incredible days to be fans from an American perspective on and off the field if you can't be the best of football by the best of football. And that's not just a Premier League thing. A.C. Milan's Syria glory was propelled by American owners, elite investment. Come on hedge funds. And it's going to be fascinating to watch this new ball era Chelsea. You really can look at the tea leaves in how we dealt with the Dodgers, massive investments searching for profit lines. It's going to be a fascinating to witness how the latter is achieved in English football, but for now a charm offensive by Todd, the easygoing, casually dressed, taking selfie with fans image of these clearly consciously decided to unfurl in contrast to the more kind of remote and aloof Roman. That is going to ratchet up, but at least I mean, we're raised this, but to Chelsea, a new era, as America's team, quit word on spurs day, very massive news today. We're genuinely happy news, I think I think fans are club's owners. Announced yesterday that they've invested a $188 million into the club summoning the cash via the issue of convertible a shares and the company warrants. I know listeners, when you think of rods, you think of someone who really understands convertible a shares in accompanying warrants, right, David. Yeah. But they didn't take any more equity in the club by doing it, which I think is was significant. So it's a genuine investment thinking that the investment is going to pay off more by putting this money into the team and having this wouldn't have happened, they not qualified for the Champions League. This is a result of getting fourth place and going into the Champions League. And yes, a 150 million is dwarfed by the 5.33 billion number at Chelsea. But that's not all going to get invested into players. It's not all going to a lot of work has to happen at that club Tottenham now have a more have a better cash flow than Chelsea because of the work they did on the stadium, the fact they get the NFL games there. They get a lot of concerts. They've got all those luxury boxes. And so Tottenham suddenly, from a few years ago, we were constantly mourning this the albatross around their neck of this new stadium. They are now and going into the COVID area. They're now looking really good. Yeah, just for listeners who are not on this green room, what they've meant by the albatross, it was in COVID time. They stadium at the very moment, football went fanless, and it was a dark moment, but now their fans can work the words, greater financial flexibility and the ability to further invest on them. Into a chant, I can't wait for that. Convertible bonds convertible bonds. And the company won't run. Anyway, I can't take no doubt happy man lighting cigars with cash tonight as he thinks about upgrading that squad across the board. I would love to see him spend all that money on Roberto salda Eric lamella Etienne capu and Vlad Kris, bring him back. So we got the money for it. One last headline from today lost I will say in the world being totally obsessed with that Europa conference thingy is Burnley have a new looking liking as manager and word from the English press is at von song company is in line to be appointed as the next Burnley manager he was let go by andale today he's been in charge since August 2020 club finished third this season in a Jupiter league, which is not good enough and japs Steinberg wrote a parting of ways suits both parties taking over Burnley would return a company and his family to a familiar part of England, his wife is proper Manchester, their three children were all born there, and it would be absolutely fascinating to really watch that story line play out. Let's pivot into questions. I can see the endorsement now. Just get your company car. At Dave fisherwick, minivans, minibus rentals and company cars. It doesn't know a lot about managing football, but when it comes to minibus rental London hi, I'm fonts.

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Ball scores 33 points, Hornets spoil Irving's home debut

AP News Radio

00:31 sec | 9 months ago

Ball scores 33 points, Hornets spoil Irving's home debut

"The Hornets boil Kyree Irving's first home game of the season by beating the nets one nineteen one ten lamella ball had thirty three points nine assists and seven rebounds helping Charlotte tie Brooklyn for eighth place in the east miles bridges scored twenty four points and PJ Washington had eighteen with eleven rebounds for the Hornets who won for the seventh time in eight games Irving finished with sixteen points and tied a season high with eleven assists but shot just six of twenty two from the field Kevin Durant had twenty seven points eight rebounds and seven assists I'm the very

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"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

05:42 min | 10 months ago

"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

"5 years. Jaw. Yeah, I agree. Where's the line there then? What about lamelo? If I said mobi lamella? Probably say mobley. Now I would say Moby. Yeah. Like mobley still does shit every single night where I'm like, wait, what did he just do? And then I rewind it. I would say, you know, as far as being the number one of a team offensively, the game, as you pointed out, and we've talked about this, it's why Kate went number one. It's why when I asked a bunch of front offices right before it, I was like, look, it comes down to it, you know, K to Evan and every one of them pick K, they go the way our game is played, it's a cave Cunningham league. And it's true. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying maybe hey, maybe you pivot back the other way and give mobley some looks because he can turn and face or whatever. I would say there's still, if I had to be a little critical of mobile, there's still a little choppiness sometimes when I see him getting into his offense or when it's like, okay, this is closed off so now let me think about what I want to do. But then there's other moments where he like jab steps left pivots back, spin, dunks on everybody in traffic and you go holy shit and then he goes back down to the other end and reads the pick and roll perfectly and jumps the passing lane and then he's helping you lead a break. So I don't even like being remotely critical of mobile but on that one with lamelo. Yeah, the more I'm talking about it out loud mobley. I was speaking to Kate, let's do this one. This is fun. This is three guys. Last three number one picks. Zion, Anthony Edwards cade next 5 years. Anthony Edwards. Because it's back to that mentality thing. I like Kate, I defend Kate. Science is probably my single favorite player to watch in league last year, but until further notice once we understand what the hell is actually going on down there, which I'm telling you right now, pelicans fans, or even pelican media members, this is Zion drafted off of the Ben Simmons James Harden bullshit, the Kyrie bullshit. He was able to hang in the back and because we're still talking about somebody with an injury, although we don't really know. I'm not suggesting he's not hurt. We just don't know, because he has not been in communication with the people that he needs to be in communication with. As this story builds in Zion, if he continues to not play and then also was wondering where his max rookie extension is, you will now be at the front of the line of the new drama story in the NBA. Unless it's replaced by a bigger player and a bigger market. But Zion has been able to avoid a lot of the negativity that may be coming his way and has already started to trickle out the last week because he was drafting behind these other bigger stories in bigger markets with bigger names. I was thinking about the Zion thing in the context of like Elway and Eli Manning and whether a guy would ever do that in the NBA or whether they could do that. Going back in time, so I just feel like I don't want to play here. Like, trade the pay. Because what are we doing? We're three years in. He's played 85 games. Yeah, he's been hurt, but we talk about the mentality. Like, I don't know, would he be playing more games if he was playing with the Knicks probably? If he didn't want to go there originally, why do I have to be like, I don't want to go, or like owners in the league, like so afraid that would happen because it would totally ruin small markets and everybody would be up in arms. I'm just interested in why that has never happened, really. It happened with Steve Francis. He didn't want to go Vancouver. That's fair. Okay. Yeah. Like somebody as big as Zion. Yeah, I mean, look, there was the Kobe Lakers deal to, but somebody still could have taken Kobe earlier and that was always the next thing where apparently the nets were just like, if you take them, you know, he's never playing. He's going to go to Italy or whatever. So yeah, you know, it's a good question because I'd imagine it'll happen again at some point. But it's going to be really weird when Zion's like, where's my rookie extension? And he's dealing with one of the cheaper franchises when it comes to ownership. In the NBA. They may be the ones. And by the way, they can wait it all out and say, and we don't need to give you this a year early, just like Phoenix and ayton, the difference is 8 and played and they just came off of finals appearance. All right, next one. All right, three more really quick. Luke versus Giannis. Ah, close, tough, Giannis is everything I would want in a personality is the face of my franchise. So I will go Yanis. Everything. This is people are going to be able to debate for a while. I would go Giannis too. Even though Luke I go, better defensively. Yeah. But the only thing is, who do you trust that the ball at the end of a game? Who do you trust with the ball in their hands? And the answer is Lucas, so I kind of feel like I should go Luca in that situation. I think you can get away with some of Luke is like lackluster defense, whereas like, you know, do I think like, yeah, a lot of things spell the audience's way last year happy when the title, but you know, let's be honest, like they were injuries and things like that. And I'm just trying to be honest. No, it's a very good point. It's really because when you think about ball side, trying to figure out how you're going to play the pick and roll and like, all right, Luca can Luke, it gives me more options than Giannis does. Just because Giannis won last year, this is kind of my Durant, Giannis thing, where I go, okay, but in what world prior to the playoff success, which I guess is part of it, but we're just talking like basketball players standing next to the basketball player. If you saw Durant and Giannis like playing a pickup game separately, and you didn't know who they were, I don't know how you'd ever say like, oh, that Yanis guy is more talented than that Durant guy. I don't even know how you would get to that. And honestly, the only people that argue are from Milwaukee. So all right, next one. All right, two more. SGA jaylen Brown. I thought I was gonna go Jalen here. SGA is younger, is efficiency stats have been terrific. It's sort of a weird deal there in Oklahoma City. He hasn't placed his hands in January this year because of the ankle. Last year with the planner thing, I.

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"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

05:01 min | 11 months ago

"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

"The trust was being built, but like you were saying, man, if you had told me that this was, it's a funny thing whenever you're high on a player and then they still exceed your expectations, lamella has been he's been phenomenal. And I think in the All-Star Game, specifically, like you said, this is a popularity contest. A lot of times it can when we're picking all stars, we can have too much weight on certain stats, not enough weight on the holistic picture, plus the hornets are a competitive team. They've gone from zero to here all really quickly here. They're a team that has a few pieces that work. I think that they are missing some things. There's been a lot of talk about, you know, your guy Jones isn't quite ready to be to be the big, he's not going to answer all the questions for them yet, but they have some things that could be nice if they had a rim running 5 who could space, you know, everybody, every team in the league wants that. But lamelo has been really, really productive early on. And he has synergy. I asked in the chat the other day about like players that have like synergy between them and their skill sets. Are there many duos in the league, especially young duos that have better synergy than lamella ball and miles bridges? Not really. I mean, it's a classic combination. I wrote a big article earlier in the season about that and how I was comparing them to Tatum and brown. And just like the way lamelo and bridges play off each other and complement each other, really just works well. I mean, it's like they're like the funnest combination in terms of I think if they don't lead the league and assist to each other, they're like top two or top three. And I think that could be the biggest thing holding lamelo back in the all star stuff is that miles bridges could take some of his votes too because he could be an all star also this season. Yeah, I mean, miles has been incredible. I was thinking about like if there were if there were flag football duos in the league, I feel like lamella in miles bridges would be a really good one. They almost have like a comedy team kind of dynamic where it's like lamella is like the colorful jokey kind of player and then miles is the straight man and they have this balance between each other. Obviously in transition is the place you were talking about recommending them to people who don't watch basketball or people just looking for something to watch. They're like appeal is very obvious. It's not something that's super nuanced. There is nuance there, but the fun of it. If you just, do you hate fun? That would be my argument against people who don't want to watch. Miles has had an incredible year. He's still only 23 years old, came in in that 2018 draft that has brought us so many good players in the league. He's averaging 20.2 points per game, 7.3 rebounds. The growth in his passing has been really amazing, 3.5 assists. And I was pointing to you and he's been better on ball than I would have thought throughout his career. I always kind of, you've always been kind of a miles guide throughout. I've had some sort of hesitancy to get all the way on with him as like an on ball creator. But he's posting 1.9 pick and roll possessions for game right now, but he's really getting in the lane a lot. His points points in the paint, John didn't know the PI TP, abbreviation. Anybody know that? I don't believe that's a common expression, is it? Let me know on Twitter. Points in the paint, I feel like is a cop. That is, but that abbreviation. You're just making things up now. I've never heard her letters. If it's a four letter abbreviation, it should be able to come off your tongue. It should be like, you know what I mean? Like PIT P you can't just say it in one. It's actually a letter. If I'm saying it out loud, I'm gonna say points in the paint because I'm not saving any syllables, but if I'm tired of saving typing and I've typed it so much, my phone knows the abbreviation, such a nerd, I'm like well, you know, I'm just saying, points in the paint. It's just that's one that people know. And also I didn't make that up. It is on NBA dot com in the stat section. But my point overall here is that he's getting to the rim. He's a great finisher. He's a versatile defender. He's a guy who consistently guards guys bigger than him. Did you have something you wanted to add on? I think the key point to points in the paint and the big change for miles this season, so last year he averaged 13 points a game. He was more of a spot up shooter. He shot 40% from three. And his job was really the space, the floor for other guys. He came off the bench for most of the last season. The big change this year, can you getting 20 points a game? He's taking almost twice as many twos. And that's like points in the paint. That's playing downhill. That's getting to the rim. That's creating his own shot. I think for sure, if he's not an all star, I would say miles bridges probably most improved player because he's made the biggest jump in the league. He's gone from like good player to legitimate star..

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"lamella" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

05:04 min | 11 months ago

"lamella" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

"To me, I'm just of the opinion that with some of these guys and some of these teams, they have two guys that belong in the conversation. By the way, jaylen brown's also not in the top ten here as far as voting for front court, which is a little bit surprising to me. We're going to have a long Jalen we're going to have a long Jalen Brown conversation. Yeah, like a couple of minutes. So I mean, to me, you could easily have him there, and I wouldn't think it was crazy. I know, again, I know his time. But I think he's been really good this year. I think he's been fine. To me, it's not as a parent of a drop off. There has been with Tatum and maybe it's just that the team is a mess in disarray and the fact that there's not as much ball handling as there was on the teams before that he's got more responsibility, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. Again, like you said, it's probably hand wringing to the point where it's unnecessary, but butler certainly deserves to be there, Jared Allen certainly deserves to be there. If you count de Rosen as a front court guy, he deserves to be there. Lamella ball, there's different guys, you could put on the team. I wouldn't necessarily be there over Tatum, but if you did it, I would be fine with it. If Tatum makes it, I'm fine with it. I just kind of feel like you have my point the reason I included Tatum in the conversations. You have a lot of guys that have not been the most efficient this year or they're normal efficient selves this year that are going to make the team. And in some cases, mostly in the west. And so maybe I shouldn't love him in there. In the west, you've got guys that are up for this conversation that really don't deserve to be. Other than what their name is. And like I said, Lillard is, I think the poster child for that this year, which I hate that it had to be him, I like Damian Lillard. I know he's played through injury. I know his situation in Portland has been a total mess. And you know, and maybe there's something to be said for whether he needed to come out and say something more firmly, I guess he's always said that he plans to stay. So it's not really on him at a certain point, but that situation has been a mess and his numbers reflect that and him just not being healthy in the ball and the foul rules and the changing foul rules. So I mean, like I said, it's probably more of a Western Conference thing, but I do think Tatum has some of that going on as well. Yeah, no, that's all. Fair, and well and good. Who are you most happy for when you looked at when you first saw this list? Was there a name that popped out to you? Or you were like, oh, look at that guy. He's getting recognized. That's wonderful. It was Wiggins, honestly. You know, I think that he's someone that I can't think of too many players in NBA history recent NBA history that have had kind of the run that he's had.

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"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

08:01 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

"Folks, basketball is very good and it is a beautiful day to talk about basketball any day that I'm talking about basketball with my co host, Jonathan sharks is a beautiful day. Sharks, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. I think it's better. Now we're back over Zoom. It's probably a better dynamic for both of us instead of being in IRL in real life. You're big on the IRL abbreviation I noticed. You know, you're big on like the text abbreviations. I didn't take you for one of those heavy millennial digital minded people because you're off social media. What's the deal with that? Well, I am still a millennial though. When we do the best we can, but we are who we are, right? We are Internet creatures. Ain't that the truth? So sharks and I just got back from Vegas. Actually, I mean, Tom flies, it's been back for a week on my wife, but we went out to the G league showcase, if you were listening last week, we were out there for that. Milling around in Vegas, watching a lot of the which was totally disrupted by the COVID call ups as we saw. The NBA has been really irregular really strange right now with all the players going into protocols. Those numbers I don't have them in front of me, but it's a lot. We've all seen it. And it was interesting to see those guys kind of come up. This week, we want to focus, we're going to come back and talk more about some of the headline names from the last couple of years. Two players who were in the same draft. I think they were there was some sort of there were a lot of mixed bag. I don't think that there was sort of a unanimous camp for either one of these guys, I would say. The first guy that we want to kind of jump in and talk about here is LaMelo Ball. LaMelo Ball, one of the most famous basketball players for his age group, really of the social media era, would you say he's the most famous basketball player? Is that possible? Like, along with like Zion? I mean him or Zion, yeah, probably. You know, lamella is on the radar really early. Mainly because of his big brother, he was he sort of looked like a Muppet with that big floppy hair that he had when he was a Chino Hills. When you first found out about him, did you kind of go through a similar process that I did where there was sort of like these levels of starting to take him more and more seriously as we went. How did you feel about lamelo during his high school days during that YouTube mixtape era? That seemed to last for a long time. I mean, it seemed like we knew him for so long before he was actually playing serious organized basketball. Talk about what your early impressions were of him like a leading up to where we are now. Well, I got to give a shout out to our old ringer colleague Danny chau. So he wrote a big takeaway piece. It actually launched the ringer. He went and talked to the ball brothers. Lamella was like in 7th grade at the time. So obviously heard about him and he's a middle schooler. I didn't know what to make of it, really. I was interested by what they were doing, the family. And I always thought, you know, I'm big believer in younger brothers and playing up. And so it's always like, okay, lamelo is playing up from the age of ten, basically. He's always playing us better competition. He's always testing himself. Iron sharpens iron. So I try to stay out of the celebrity stuff and I was just like, you know, this could be a player to watch in a couple of years because Lonzo's really good, obviously. And if Lonzo's good, then lamelo has a chance to be better. Yeah, it's an interesting thing where I feel like he was, you know, you had like the 90 point game, you've got him pointing at the spot on the floor from God knows how far away that was that famous picture. You know the one I'm talking about were calls a shot. I think some of that stuff just sort of overshadowed who he was as a player, but if you look between the lines, it was like, you're right, about the playing up, the things like that. He had developed those skills. And you see a lot of those things sort of crystallizing and who he is now as a player. A lot of that sort of odd. We've talked about this on the ringer university show last year that that odd sample that he had as a younger player made him extremely experimental, made him extremely creative. I was kind of coming into the draft, though, fast forwarding, where did you have him on your big board, like in terms of how did you see him going into the league and how did he sort of surpass your expectations? I had an aunt one lamella too. And I think that was definitely wrong. I mean, I'll answer really good player. I will talk about him later in the show, but I think pretty clearly now lamella is the best player in that draft. And he's exceeded, I was pretty high on him, and he's exceeded my expectations for sure. I wasn't sure how his scoring would translate. I wasn't sure, 'cause the passing was obvious. You could wash him for 5 minutes and say, this guy is an elite passer. He can run a team. Because he had this weird combination where he'd make these crazy passes, but his turnovers were always very low in spite of the absolutely insane passes he would attempt. That was very encouraging. It was always just a matter of is this guy going to score enough? Is the jump shot real? Can you score around the rim? Will that make up for, well, that allow him to maximize his passing ability? Kind of like we talked about with Josh Getty last week. If you're a great passer and you can't score at a certain point, that contradicts a kind of holds you back in spite of your passing. Well, I think in these two years in the NBA we've seen this, he can score well enough. He can get his buckets and move the ball around and make things happen. Yeah, I think that well enough is kind of the range where the conversation about him like going forward, where does he go from here? How does he evolve, get better? Where does his production kind of bloom and blossom? You're right, like a scoring wise right now. He's right at about 20 points per game. A desist per game. The shooting is an interesting thing because the free throw percentage I think is really interesting thing. He's shooting 91.6% from the line, getting to the line as a whole other kind of conversation. I want to kind of break this down into the areas of concern that we had for him going forward and how he sort of addressed those. You're right about the passing. Those things were always there. I was looking last night. Agree or disagree with me on this. I think that he might be him and jokic, he and jokic might be the most elite over the top placement passers in the world. I was just thinking this morning, he is a jokic level passer, but he's much, much faster, obviously. But I would say that the best two passion in the league, I think, pretty clearly. Oh, you think overall they are the best. I guess you put LeBron in there too, but those are the top three passers in the league. Harden. But so here's the thing I think what I think separates lamella and jokic from the other guys. So if you look at the tracking numbers and lamella and jokic are both in the top 5 and touches, but neither is very high in time of possession. So jokic holds a ball for 4.1 minutes a game. Lamelo is at 6. And you compare hardens at 9.2, Lucas at 9.4 Troy young's at 8.6. What's that saying is his lamella and jokic give The Rock up. Like they're passing a ton and they're not holding the ball. They're letting everybody else get involved. It's kind of like the counter to the whole heliocentric thing, your harden, Luca, Trae Young, LeBron to lesser extent. They're more of a reaction to that and saying, we're going to hold the ball, but we're also going to get rid of it really, really fast. We're not going to just dribble the bond to the ground. We're going to let everybody else eat too. Yeah, I think you're spot on right there because there are like these macro kind of conversations in the NBA about like how to play, what's the best way to play? Because we've seen I have a friend who always says there are a lot of ways to skin a cat. With NBA. First off, that's weird thing to say. Poor kids. Come on. Who are skinning these cats? That's a weird one. Drop that from your lexicon folks. No, I think over time we've seen we've seen different versions of this. We've seen like feed the ball to shack, like players who are like touch dumb and it who keep the ball a lot, but you kind of have to be in efficient score to play that way for that to justify playing that way. Otherwise, you're just going to have a bad offense..

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"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

05:28 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

"Whatever. But something like that. It gets the bonus the Sacramento, a team that has a mandate to make the postseason have some balance on that roster, Halliburton. That recent four game stretch he had Ryan with a box. Oh my God. He was unbelievable. He had like a hundred plus touches per game. He was dominant for Sacramento, granted they were still dropping games. But something like that is one that I'm into. How about if you want to trade wait, wait, wait, wait, we got to stay out. Is sabonis the best piece in this trade or where are you with this a bonus thing? Okay, do you think a lot of people love sabonis? Do you think there's some anti sabonis? There's anti sebast people. There are. I've talked to some NBA. They complain about how he holds the ball. Like he doesn't whip the ball. It doesn't make quick decisions that he stagnates the offense. He certainly can't be your one. And you're gonna make sure you keep him involved because he's still a little old school and some of that stuff. I think brogden does a really good job on his drives. His brogden drives is one of the weirdest players I've ever watched. You're like, oh, there he is, again, at the rim, past everybody. I don't know how he got there, but he did. And then, you know, sabonis comes over off the help. The fox thing I feel guilty like giving, I feel like fox is Colin Sexton, but cooler. You know, sometimes I worry where I'll be like, all right, this guy can do some things. Look at 8 35 the other night. Oh, a triple double. This is cool. And you're like, out of team loses all the time. And Darren Fox at the end of games, I don't know how many seasons, but this season, I don't know what the latest numbers were, but at one point this year, the numbers were absolutely atrocious on some of his finishing moments in there. I almost like that deal better from Sacramento if you keep lever. I'm just not a lavera guy. I'm sorry. He's okay. All right. Okay, give me your Utah one. How about, let's say you tell one of the trades some offense for a better defender. Just to throw this back to the then playing some more small ball. Boy on bogdanovic for Jeremy grant. And again, just a baseline of a deal, probably adding something else in that. Because grant can provide some offense for you and not in the same way Bogdanovich provides knockdown shooting, but he's a far superior defender. He could play him at the four next to go bare or Whiteside. You can maybe even play a little bit of small ball 5 with him and that to me is the intriguing thing for you ty and another guy to think about maybe fat young. Cheaper option for Utah. But if I'm the jazz, my priority between now and the deadline is finding somebody who can give me another strong option with those non go bare minutes 'cause it's not always gonna be white side. If you have to rely on Whiteside and certain playoff series, I think you're in trouble. So I'm the grand that he has not been bad. But in a postseason series, you've got to have an option out there to go with a four and a 5 who have versatility. Wow, that's a really good one. Really good one, because I got to think about it. And I was not the biggest Jeremy grant guy, I thought it was actually pretty overrated. And then he got to Detroit. And then let him take 20 shots of game. But you did, I mean, to be fair, it wasn't just the stats. You saw a rounding outness to his offensive game that he just hadn't experienced before because he was never really allowed to do it. I don't love that he could just disappear rebounding wise for some stretches, but it would feel like Utah would just have a completely different flexibility thing there, although I'd be a little worried about they used McDonald's again in some of the bigger bodied wing match ups and they just shoot the hell out of the ball. I'd almost be like, I don't know. He's pretty good. Yeah. He doesn't give him. He's very important. They use him so much off screens and handoffs on offense. He's the guy that went, it's not working with Mitchell and Conley. He's an outlet for them. Run it by age. Yeah. Shoot him a text. That's your guy. Anything. All right. I have two quick ones for you. Charlotte, who how about borrego the other night mentioned lamella and miles bridges in the comeback against Denver, but you could see, honestly, if they had a serviceable big, Charlotte's a completely different team. I mean, they're trying with plumley. You know, there's a couple other guys that run out there. What if they did PJ Washington because they're going to make a financial decision on PJ and miles bridges. I don't think they're going to be able to do both. You throw in Kai Jones and then plummeting to make the money work for miles Turner. But you'd have to hope that the pacers like Kai Jones or maybe they counter and say book night and then they go, you know what? We're getting rid of sabonis. PJ Washington is a nice player. The fluctuation there is a little weird with that, but he can shoot the hell out of a ball for the guy that size. Give me your thoughts on that. I mean, I would love miles Turner with lamella. That would be a fun, pick and roll pairing, having him also protect the ram on the defensive end. That'd be fun with Indiana. You said they would have to like Kai Jones. I wonder how much can they get for miles Turner? I don't think it's that great. Honestly, dude, we know a lot of people love him. He's been available for like three fucking years. Teams don't love Turner. They don't. And I mean, you know, look, everybody's available to a certain degree. I've heard Turner's name come up like, oh, you know, we kicked the tires on this, you know, whatever. Real stuff other than, oh yeah, we would take a call on anybody. Okay, let's just do a dumb one then. I thought two real ones, whatever. We'll keep it at the Charlotte, try to figure out a way to get it big. I always mess around with trying to trace the outcome. And is there any I see, here's the thing. If you were to ever try.

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"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

02:23 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

"Wanted to start. We saw his gun playing last year helping us. And then in the draft, you know, I think I would go against what the people say, you have to need all vets. You need you. You need that sprinkle of youth. You need to ask what is those young legs to kind of grow within the organization? Look, is that the right exact way? I don't think there's one way. You've covered sports a long time. I mean, every team does it differently. I like our mix, you know, Porter coming in as a vet, be elites, the guys we like, Iguodala, means more to us than he might to any other team. What he does in the locker room, who he is, I can go down the list, right? But you know, I think what you try to do is build a team you can lose with. I know that may be hard to understand. But when you build a team, obviously you want to win. But if you build a team that you can lose with, you might win. Does that make sense? If I'm playing something with you, and we're playing doubles, ping Pong or pickleball or tennis or whatever. And I know who you are when we lose. That's more important than knowing who you are when we win. Because if I know I can live with you when we lose, then we can overcome whatever adversity comes our way. But if you're only a good guy when we win, and then we lose, you lose your mind, you start blaming me, start falling apart. Well, then I know we're in trouble. So that's kind of kind of back into some of these decisions and say character and temperament, skill set and all that and you go from there. I don't know if you'll be able to tell me the truth on this one, but I'm gonna try anyway. How close was the debate on wiseman and lamella when you had the number two pick? How close was the debate? Yeah. I mean, it's hard because that year we it was an unusual year because we couldn't bring as in our facility, you know? And so we didn't get we didn't get the same access and things like that. But we targeted James obviously, we took him in front of lamelo and we debate everything, and it's always close, you know, people would argue in one guy's mind, it's close one guy's mind. He likes this guy more than other. And we're pretty, we're pretty debate oriented. So it's not just me in a room where I just say this is what we're doing shut the door. So we hashed out the whole thing as far as what we thought we ended up ranking it the way we did. And we watched them all, he had a great workout when we saw we knew it would be a really good player..

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"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

07:17 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on The NBA Show

"There. Raja is really only one thing to talk about today. I don't care what everybody is expecting us to talk about. I don't care. There, bro because those who can't tell. They may hear this random how's that fucking breakfast sandwich? Bro, how's it tasted right now? For those of you who can't tell the remnants in the mustache, bro, I I've had a long weekend, my guy. I've had a long way. Do you want to get into that? Do we want to just get into the to get into what we're getting into, bro? So guys, keep your routine. Okay, everybody just keep your routine. Stop taking just stop taking random trips, guys. We're out on the other side of this pandemic, guys. We've got to bring order into this into this life. So that's basically where we're at. Which explains the breakfast sandwiches you know, Russia. They look good, though. I'm gonna keep it a buck. You might get some like, you might get some of that during this pod, bro, just because, you know, Sasha Mack just is so much a Sasha Matt can't even edit it out because I'm just, I might be just snacking during this pod. But anywho we here to talk about the warriors and the nets. It's about that time, Raju, because the warriors and the nets are playing tomorrow Tuesday and that means it is not the first first time that they're playing, but like a lot of stuff on this part of the pandemic. It's one of the first times where we get to see. If not, the fur, this is the first time we get to see Steph Curry. First Kevin Durant. After KD is left, that seems like it's simultaneously feels like two weeks ago, but also feels like 7 years ago when they played together, right? I still have memories of them playing together very, very, vivid memories of playing together. But it's going to be weird. What do you think going into this game, man? How are you feeling going to this game? It's one of the only times you're going to hear me say this on the pie, but I'm going to say it. I'm going to miss Kyrie. I'm going to miss him. That's the way I feel about that game. I'm going to miss him because he too has a thing with death. And I just think that the positions and the matchups when you're trying to create drama because they both play the same position and they're basically the same size. I feel it more than I feel Steph versus KD if that's a thing. You know what I mean? If that makes sense to you. Well, I understand this stuff versus KD drama. I'm gonna miss Kyrie and the equation because I know where his mind goes when he sees stuff, right? I was talking to somebody recently about that how something about Kyrie and Steph where Kyrie just feels like he just feels different when he plays against Steph Curry. The competition is just different. I'm sure you've seen it on that other side, but he plays defense. He's engaged because Kyra isn't one of those situations where he's probably the most talented player or at least in terms of talent. At least top 5, right? You know? In terms of talent, not like accomplishments in the whole total package. But he sees step as somebody that is accomplished and at all these things. It's like a, I think I was talking to somebody recently. It's like prince and Michael Jackson, right, where for instance this guy that could play all the instruments can do all these different things, but maybe isn't as acclaimed long-term or is acclaimed as he probably should be or wants to be. And he goes up against Steph, who is this corporation, this one man, everything, right? Like Mike was, and then you kind of get those clashes, right? There's a love and respect for each other, but you only really see that with them going at each other. That's the only way they know how to show respect to each other. I remember seeing Steph play last week against LaMelo Ball and I can tell when Steph is really respect somebody because he really won't talk to them. He really just won't like he'll show that. I think it was lamella was trying to lamella was like I didn't watch the game last night, but when they were playing the chase like lamelo had gone behind Steph and like tapped him and Steph didn't even blink. You know? Obviously, he respect. He's locked in, and obviously he respects lamelo, but that's how these two people show respect is by going at each other intensely. So I'm excited. You were around stuff a lot. I mean, I was around Kyrie. For that year, was staff aware with Steph aware of the level that Kyrie came at him. Was it was he? I mean, because sometimes for a Steph who's already on the mountaintop, it's not a thing. But for you, it's a thing because you're saying, I'm prince in this equation if I'm Kyrie, I'm trying to get to that Michael Jackson status. Mike might just be like, yo, I'm not even concerned with that. What's funny though, when you read about my it is another podcast when you read about Mike and you read about prints, both of those dudes were insanely competitive and watching each other's shows. Like they may have acted like they didn't care, but that's because they cared. But anyway, was it like that? So when I was so, when I was in the bay, and I've always been in the bed my whole life, but when they were first started, the Cavs iteration of Kyrie. I was watching as a spectator, a wedding really know stuff. I didn't really touch. I didn't know the game, but when I started covering stuff, my first year was when they played each other, it's a bit of big game, but it was a home game. It was a Saturday night game, Celtics Celtics warriors, right? When Kyrie was on the Celtics. And Kyrie had one of his best games. He fucking put stuff in a blender a whole bunch of times, but I think Steph ended up winning. I think Steph had like, I don't know if he had like 40 or 50 points, but you could tell that it was one of those games as Steph had circled on the calendar. And in hindsight, I don't know the reporting now, but I don't have the reporting on it, but in hindsight, it's like, man, you know, knowing that Kyrie came Kyrie is now teammates with Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant was on the Florida end. It's like, it's just a lot of things that you could point to about why he could be feeling some type of way. And he's all fair to feel those feelings. And then, you know, they got Kyrie, who's like, and I ain't got what Steph got, but I wanted. It's just typical competitive stuff, right? You find stuff in a guy that you probably like, but you want your talk to get to that mountaintop. So, you know, with Kyrie and then I always saw a competition between Stephen and Kyrie that you don't really see. You see it only with guys who have a mutual respect for each other. If that makes sense. So that was just that wasn't a rivalry, but it's a great competition. So I'm sad that we can't see that on tomorrow night. You are. Yeah, miss Kyrie. And, you know, I love to watch that matchup because there's such well they're both super gifted. And they could get it, you know, in a multitude of ways. They're so different in their approach to the way they play the.

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"lamella" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

04:55 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

"And maybe that's where we're going here in New York as well. Very well be 25 rebounds for Andre Drummond with Joel embiid now out. Yeah. That's a master performance even though they did drop that one. Let's finish up by talking a little Lakers and hornets exciting game. Unfortunately, from my perspective, it became very exciting. The Lakers again blowing a big lead in the fourth quarter. One of the craziest moments I think we'll see this year in a game 5 consecutive free throws for lamella ball. That was you had two free throws for a foul. And then you had a delay of game and two technicals led to 5 free throws in a row for lamella ball to cut the Lakers lead to four late in the game and then the hornets came back and took it to OT. Yeah, absolutely. It was this was the Anthony Davis without LeBron. He was absolutely dominant on both ends of the floor. This was maybe one of the best defensive games I've seen him play since the Bible box. I just thought he just yeah, I just controlled everything too. He was switching out the guys on the perimeter doing just really wrecked everything. Charlotte wanted to do for a very long period of time. And this one, Russ did not shoot it well, but he was still put his stamp on the game with 14 assists. I thought he did a good job of pushing pace at times in this one, kind of catching the hornets almost at their own game. And then mellow again, you know, we talked about if it wasn't for Tyler hero, he'd probably be the 6th man of the year. He's just been that good off to bench 9 to 13. Now I have to say this. Anthony Davis's comments on Melo after the game, what are you talking about? Everybody gave up on this guy. No one wanted to give him a chance and look at what he's doing with us. One, Portland gave him a chance, and he did this kind of stuff in Portland. They would have happily have kept him, and it but he wanted to join the Lakers and that's his choice. And that's the right thing to say. But you could have given him this chance two years ago and you didn't. So let's not make it out like the Lakers were the savior of Carmelo Anthony here. Come on. Portland did the work. It's getting a little we're creating a narrative that doesn't exist. I mean, I get it. I didn't see the postgame comments yet because I frankly, I got my audio done and I went to bed right after that thing ended..

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"lamella" Discussed on The Lowe Post

The Lowe Post

05:24 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on The Lowe Post

"Let's go to the magic who have two of the top 8 picks in the draft Franz Wagner and Jalen suggs. We will start with Franz Wagner who would be first team all rookie if the season ended today. 14 points a game on 47% shooting 39% from threes, top 5 or 6, in every advanced stat. And you mentioned a basketball player, like he's not gonna be the primary ball handler for this team, but he can be on a possession here there. He's a really good secondary ball handler, catching up, catching it off screens in the corner. He has a really nice neck for kind of just driving toward the rim and hitting hook shot. Like getting into a guy's body and hitting hook shots and floaters over them, moves his feet really well on defense. I'm very interested to see the tumor okiki Franz Wagner three, four combination for the magic. I don't know how Jonathan Isaac fits into that and they're 9000 centers. By the way, it's a miracle that banton did not end up on the magic given their proclivity for long guys who can't shoot. I don't know how he slipped through the magic dress. He's a smart cutter. The guy's just he's a good basketball player right now. He has been easily their best rookie. We'll talk about suggs in a second. I don't know how much I mean, I don't know if he'll ever be like a 20 point score in the NBA or it's too early to really put ceilings on any of these guys, but he's good now and nothing about it seems fluky to me if the jumper is real. Nothing about this seems unsustainable. No, I think it's also sustainable. And a lot of it isn't product of his experience at such a young age. It's funny, Franz was so we had him pretty high all year. I think in the top ten, most of the year. And he was the one guy who people would say, you know, I'm not so much teams, but outside voices where I don't really see it. Why do you guys like Franz so much? Why is Franz so high on your board? What does he do really well? And what he did really well is he was one of the best players on one of the best teams in the country at 19 years old, you know? And so he can come in right away and he knows how to play. He knows how to defend. He knows how to play off the ball. He's very efficient. He can score 20 points using like 9 dribbles, you know? And every coach wants that, right? And then his size, I mean, the funny thing with him is when I first saw him, he was 6 four, and he was like, 14 gangly, you knew he had an older brother and then every year you just waited for him to grow and grow and grow and grow. Because he had these high hips and he was kind of awkward, I had a little hitch in his giddy up. And now, I mean, he's like pushing 6 ten, you know? So I think now he's just starting to grow into his body and become this guy who's super versatile and can play anywhere on the floor. But I think it's his experience, man. He was playing Euro cup minutes, German BBL minutes when he was 16, 17 years old, with Alba Berlin. You know, when I first saw him at that tournament, when he was 14, that was an under 18 tournament. So he's been coached by really good coaches. Obviously playing for juwan Howard and then can come in right away, defend make shots and make the right play. So yeah, I think I don't know the ceiling, you know what I mean? Is he ever going to be your number two or three scoring option? Maybe not. But he defends. He moves the ball. He can shoot, and he's got a little bit of fire to him. Not a little bit. Not a little bit. He is a sneering wants to eat when he dunked on Minnesota in that game. I almost fell out of my chair. He likes to go at guys. Yes, like his brother. I mean, but he has no offense to mo, but a little bit more game to back it up, right? And so he's got that type of mentality. I think he's a killer and let's be honest, like he's been the better of the two picks by far up until this point. Oh, it's not close. We're gonna talk about sug in a second because I'm very curious about what exactly he is. But I will say, I feel bad for mo Wagner and I feel bad in the same way, but less so for Lonzo Ball because we in the media can't help but compare siblings. Like even when I'm talking to front office, guys and coaches about lamella would be like, man, he's so much better than Lonzo. They'll say that. And I'm like, who cares if he's better than that? Why do we have to compare to Alonzo? Why can't we compare him to like other people other than Lonzo poor mole Wagner for the third third string center on the magic Robin Lopez just, I guess is just going to Disney World. I don't really know what Robin Lopez is doing other than working out those guys in practice, filming skits with stuff the magic dragon about how they have buried their beef in are now Friends. I can't, by the way, he's gonna turn on stuff to match. It's happening. Like that's scripted into their relationship. He's gonna turn on him violently. That's how I don't know what else he's doing. But yeah, I love frans is just gonna be a good player. Like you said, you might not average, you might not, is he gonna be the number two guy on a great team? I don't think the killer would be the number one guy. Number two, that's probably optimistic, I guess, but he's gonna help good teams, his entire career. That's just the kind of player he is. And that's what they needed. They needed somebody to come in and help create more winning plays and winning culture and winning habits and all that. And that's exactly what he does and has always done. And he's still young. I mean, he's the age of a lot of he's the age of some like freshman, you know? So I think he has an incredibly bright future. So this is where I need you, Mike. I need your expertise a Okay. Because I need you to tell me what Jalen suggs is because he leads the magic and usage.

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"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

03:08 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"Okay, let's jump in. Where do you want to start? Do you want to start with lamella? Do you want to start with pat Williams being out? Do you want to start with Anthony Edwards? Where do you want to go first? Let's start with some. Let's just start at the top. Why don't we start thinking Edwards? Okay. So Anthony Edwards has looked really good this year. He's, I think simplified and shot mechanics and a pretty real way that is going to lead to long-term sustainability as a scorer. He's talked a lot about defense early in his career and wanting to be great on defense. And I think that's a really good sign. His on ball defense, I think he's gotten much better. If you watch his off ball defense, he's still kind of a mess. A lot of the Franz Wagner breakout game that happened against Minnesota was, for instance, like him digging down onto a driver that he didn't need to dig down onto and then leaving Franz Wagner for an open three. Right. On a same side, kick out even. Let alone like a cross corner kick out. These are all growing things though. Like everything I've seen from Anthony Edwards so far says that this is the best case scenario for how the start of his career has gone, I think..

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"lamella" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

06:19 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

"I mean, didn't run over a pitcher. Didn't try to dunk it and get a potential charge. He just got the bucket. These are very good signs. You are right to point out his assist average in, I think there's 5.6 in the preseason. He's not being asked to do that as much in the NBA, nor should he be. He isn't really that player just yet. He's got to get much, much better as a ball handler in my opinion. If he's ever going to be an MVP level player. If he doesn't do that, he's just going to be an all star. And maybe in all league performer because he's a two way player. If you can develop handles the way all of our elite players like Hawaii and Durant at his size can dribble the ball when I always got a chance in every P level player because he's gonna win a ton of games. He's right now as net rating wrote it down it's plus 7. That doesn't sound like a ton, but trust me, Jalen green is -18. And of course he's not a different team. I get that. But that's not like the raptors have a big winning record or anything. He impacts wins because he plays the right way now. Just wait till a skill game explodes because I think it's going to. Does his role change in a significant way when siakam comes back. You know, this is the one question, right? Pascal siakam, who is there all star has been out with an injury, but he's going to be back. Probably sooner rather than later. What role, what happens to Scottie when siac comes back? Yeah, two things one he'll play less, which is good 'cause he is exhausted in the fourth quarters. I've noticed how tired he is late in games. He only averages like 20 something minutes, Florida state plays 11 guys. So he has not played this many minutes ever in high school. They were blowing everyone out with four or 5 NBA players whoever was on his team. He's tired, and he's playing both ways. It's not like he could take plays off against Jayson Tatum, right? There's lots of guys in the league that are very good players. Lamella ball and Anthony Edwards don't tend to guard the opponent's best offensive players. Scottie does. So he's a little fatigued. Siakam will be a welcome relief for that because he'll play a few less minutes of game. But I don't think they're gonna cut many minutes. And then in terms of on court role, not really because, again, this is where I think Nick nurse has done a great job. They could ask him to do everything, the way Jalen green, for example, is doing in Houston. I don't think that's the best thing for most players. It worked for Kevin Durant many years ago, even though it took a long time for his team to start doing better when he was on the court. I don't think it'd be working for Scott 'cause he's not that kind of shooter. So playing off other guys plays perfectly into what he can do best, which is dominate off the ball. That's the one thing if he can learn to dominate with the ball and then he's Magic Johnson. That's a big ask. I think he's got potential for that. I don't know if we'll ever get it. No one else ever has before. That's only one magic. But to learn to dominate off the ball and then pick your spots, draymond green is a great example of that, is fine for him early in his career. And so I think that siakam will be better. The raptors will win more. And I think scotti will have another primary guy along with Fred because OJ really isn't that player. So now they have those guys playing off of Pascal and Fred. And I think they'll be better than I think he'll be better because of in terms of metrics. You know, one really cool thing to end on Scotty Barnes is raptors fans freaked out. We were talking about it you and I, I was probably the only person that had Scotty Barnes mocked to the raptors for quite a long time because we just sort of knew about Masai and what sort of player Maasai really likes. And it was a tough decision between him and Jalen suggs suggs also brings a lot of the things that Masai likes and a player, you know, as well. But raptors, fans were despondent. And one of the cool things about doing it doing a sub stack and having this sort of collection of readers over at MBA big board dot com, you have the same thing over at tru hoop is these are more advanced fans. These are people that are really carefully watch the game. And so one of the things I love is, you know, in the comment section and then the emails I get. You know, you get a lot of fans that are really intelligent about the game. And many of them were very, very skeptical about Barnes, but so many of them have written to me and saying, you know, I want to be a skeptic, but every game I just fall more and more in love, love with this guy, and people that are non raptors fans saying the same thing. He's past the eye test around the league, same with general managers, same with scouts that we talk about. I absolutely think that after this part, he's been the biggest revelation in the NBA as just it's hard to take your eyes off Scotty Barnes and when you're watching him play and I couldn't be more bullish about him. I think he does absolutely not just have that all star ceiling, but that superstar I'm ceiling in him. You're right, there's a few things he needs to do. So let's pivot to Evan mobley, because if we were doing a rookie of the year race right now, it would be a tight race because Evan mobley has been dominant, especially on the defensive end. I mean, we talk about Scotty Barnes being able to guard 5 players, but actually what Evan mobley's impact defensively. If you look at some of the advanced numbers right now, I mean, he's been one of the best defenders in the NBA. Early on, the calves are shockingly winning basketball games that we didn't think so. He seems like the perfect fit. Calves are using him in the same way. He's guarding more, not necessarily one through 5, but three through 5 for sure, Eva mobley is guarding and his quickness his ability to both protect the rim, but guard on the perimeter. And then, you know, there's been some nice stuff on the offensive end as well, though he's maybe a little bit further behind there. What do you think about Eva mobile early on in his career? Man, I love him so much. I told our partner and founder to have our dear friend Henry Abbott. You know, well, we did a show, I think on Friday and where I said, I said, I think having me, I think I even wrote this where I'm starting to see the light at the end of this dark Cleveland Cavaliers tunnel. And it worked out great, and listen, I'm wrong all the time and I'll go into another details and things have been wrong about. But I didn't expect them to win at Denver in LA, but they did..

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"lamella" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

04:43 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"This was a lot more fun of a topic before lamella just shit the bed in his last game. And I'm going to come out of the gate at this point. Lamelo his first step is actually incredible. And if he goes, he went through the last game they played he had zero free throws. They won. For him not to have 6 free throws in a game, is just such an abomination to me because so they go against the Celtics Monday night. Charlotte is a big lead, and lamella decides he's in New Zealand and just starts shooting 30 footers. He made one, which was like the worst thing that could have to announce, and he's just shooting 30 footers. And I'm watching, going, this is great. Please keep shooting those because every time you go to the basket, you get whatever you want. You could get a layup at the basket, you can get fouled or you can kick out to a wide open three point shooter. So please, keep firing up these 30 footers. So he's this frustrating combo of like just incredibly talented. One of my biggest misses I've had in the draft in the last 20 years. Just completely missed it. But yet, a muscle frustrated by almost like buy the game who is identity is in the game because there's certain games where you're like, oh, he gets it. This is unbelievable. I can't believe the words didn't take them. And then there's other games where you go, I understand why the words didn't take them. So I thought there was two days ago I thought, maybe he makes all MBA this year, then you watch the game the other day with 7 points, no free throw attempts. Like, oh, he's definitely not making the OB. What our give us give us your lamella takes. You mentioned something that I looked up specifically. The foul drawing is kind of it's kind of appalling. Before that Orlando game, 55 players were averaging 15 or more field goal attempts per game. Lamella was tied for third fewest free throws among those guys. I'd imagine that number went down. So it got even worse. Well, for this for this season, he's 1.4. So he shot 7 free throws in 5 games, which if you watch him, it's like, dude, nobody can stay in front of you. What do you do? He gets a little. I have a term that I made up and this seems like something you might approve of or disapprove of. But guys like him that he plays like this kind of like above the fray style Jamal Murray was like this until he shifted and started playing more physical. I call them tuxedo scores, like guys that like to keep their suit clean when they play. Like they don't really want to get in. He doesn't play like that, get in and sort of get his nose dirty, like so. And that's a big thing for him. If you watch him playing going to the basket, I mean, he's insanely creative. He does these weird Statue of Liberty floaters over bigs, where I'm just like, what the hell? And he can make them. But a lot of times he plays sort of like if you watch non physical drivers going to the rim, he gets his direction changed pretty easily. And he also doesn't fight back, like he's a guy who just kinda work around. And he just has a slight frame. The thing you said about like, the big thing for him is his start stop ability is crazy. Like once he gets somebody on the hook, he is so good at shifting his weight with his dribble and so creative that he can get in the room, but the problem is that he's played his entire life. The talent was there and recognizable, but the problem is that he's played his entire life with no repercussions for his decisions. So for him well, now he's in Charlotte where he's the golden boy, so he's not gonna be no repercussions either. He can have a game like he had the other night and they're just so happy he's on the team. They're not going to give him shit. But borrego sits him like borrego Saddam in the fourth quarter of that game because like did you get to see much of the fourth quarter of that game? Yeah. So he comes down and transition and they're trying to fight back. They're playing, okay, you know, Orlando's plane all right, they're trying to fight back. And he just shoots like a trans. It was like a two on one and he shot like a transition 28 footer and miles bridge is literally through his hands in the air, it was just like, what the hell are you doing? And that's the problem with him. It's just like he has all the courage. He has that fearlessness that you want, but his calibration of like time and situation, it's a work in progress. I mean, and yeah, so it's just coming up. Well, I think part of the problem with him, he got benched in that game, but it wasn't a big deal. And he's not a big enough star for it to be a big deal. But he's already getting all these wins from TikTok and Instagram and Twitter because he'll have a couple plays during the game and it's like, all right, he won Twitter again. And then he's putting up stats and at least a few of these things..

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"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

05:47 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"I've really kinda sorta held off on a lot of my like takes on The Rookie class throughout my tweets because I knew that we were going to do something like this. So I figured that we would just hold takes until then, right? And the first place that I want to start is just simply, it feels like to me that this working class is awesome. I've really not only enjoyed this class, but I have really felt like there are more difference makers in this class than what there has been previously. Between Evan mobley, you know, crystal water, Scotty Barnes has been good. Franz Wagner has actually been pretty good despite the fact the magic are pretty bad. Josh giddy has been good. You can go up and down the list and you find a lot of players who are legitimately in rotations and playing fun roles. And yeah, sure that happens every year, like a manual quickly and Sadiq bay and Anthony Edwards and lamella ball, obviously emerged last year, but this year feels like a bit more productive and enjoyable to watch to me. It's strong at the top and we still haven't seen Cunningham who's been hurt, Jonathan has been hurt and then throughout there's still depth Jeremiah Robinson Earl has started Jones has started. There's guys that we like so in the process and I didn't think they'd be starting game four or 5, but they've already assured himself as being these difference makers. I do want to preface a little bit because I was talking with a friend at NBA circles prepping for this and trying to get some Intel aside from just what we watch what we see and I said, tell me something negative because everything's positive right now in these guys. In the negative was, it's been four games. You guys are doing this already. So yeah we are. We're excited. It's kind of like more of a progress report in school than a report card. Yeah, no. We're not overreacting and look at look at Matt penny asking for the negatives. If I can't find it, like give me something that I can hook my cartoon here, but it has been good to watch and to see guys that even with a little bit of hesitation at the top have really produced statistically too. And one of the fun things is you've seen a lot of players kind of like outside their comfort zones too and I didn't know that they could really do some of the things and we'll get into specifics. But that's kind of given me pause as to what do I have to change in my own personal evaluation process to not miss some of these things and what I've learned early despite being two weeks is you are going to miss it's just are you missing big or missing small in some of these? So let's start on who I think is clearly been the best rookie. Do you think there's been a clear best rookie in the NBA so far? You're setting me up. As like a sure fire number one, I don't because I think that you could say one of probably four names and I would agree with you. So I don't mean in terms of long term, I just mean in terms of the way this guy has played through four games. And you know, that can be an older player. It can be a younger player. I'm just saying in terms of pure production so far..

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"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

02:02 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"A shot blocking wing. Those are hard to find. I just, I I'm big on miles bridges. I really over that over those last 20 games a year, I was like, wow, wow, if he's anything close to this, that is an excellent player. I love miles bridges so much. I just really like I had them, I think like 8 on my pre draft board back in 2018. Like I have loved miles bridges for so long. I just want to see a little bit more on the shooting sample before I'm like ready to say, oh yes, he's a 16 6 and three assist guy who can, you know, legit be a great running mate for lamella. Like I think he's definitely a building block for them. If I was them, I would be trying to extend him right now. Like quickly. Like I would not want this he is a chance to really blow up this year if the shooting is real. I would be trying to extend him now and just don't take that risk if I was Charlotte. We'll see if that ends up being the case, right? If I remember correctly, represented by klutch. So I don't know that they'll be super excited to do an extension. And not let him test his market value. But they're definitely going to score. I just, I really worry about where the defense comes from. I really worry about where the defense comes from because you're talking about a starting backward of lamella voluntary Terry Rozier, both of whom aren't great on ball defenders versus small and lamella can get driven a little bit too often. Lamella is a great off ball defender, but not an awesome on ball defender. And you're talking about a team that doesn't have any room protection behind them after those on ball defenders get beat. So I'm in on watching the hornets..

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"lamella" Discussed on Bro Bro Bro Bets

Bro Bro Bro Bets

07:01 min | 1 year ago

"lamella" Discussed on Bro Bro Bro Bets

"Don't hate that under mitt. I just saw. I just saw the total. I was like that is way too high. I especially hawaii traveling. That far distance like all the way to the states. Just kind of a struggle so. Ucla's defense last year was top. Twenty five against the run number sixty against the past. Hawaii was actually number twenty six against the past number one hundred against around. That's why i thought. Ucla was just gonna keep it on the ground. Fucking classic chip kelly oregon it was spread and it was uptempo but it was a lot of running. This wasn't a ton of blood pass chip. Kelly likes to run the ball. They ran the ball sixty percent. I'm last year. Ucla did I'm seeing a number where opened nine and a half and now it's up seventeen and a half. That scares me a little bit. But i've been watching this for weeks and it's been like eighteen. Nineteen for a little bit. So that at that this What am i trying to say if it opened that the summer. Maybe or something like that. Yeah i'm gonna. I'm gonna stay away from that one but i wouldn't not taking i'm not taking hawaii put it that way. I'm not trusting. Yeah i also did lose their quarterback somewhere in the nfl camps. And so i think just under all the way. I think that's the best player todd graham's. It's you actually so what's up. What's going on walk man on. I nobody at we one yet. Top three too early for this weekend. Footy twenty-five written down on the sheet here twenty five of those. I mean. i will take all twenty-five will i give twenty-five out is another question. I will stay some to jump on early if i get a chance here. If this thing moves lester money. Line against norwich on saturday mice one twenty. Five norwich has been dog. Walked both games. Lester loss yesterday card red card to west and west handsome very good. I would take that west ham. Money for crystal palace's minus one sixty. This will not stay at that for long. Crystal palace has hasn't look great. west ham. Has everton double chance again against brighton. I think everton's better than brighton. Minus one seventy man you wolves. I might stay away from manu's mice one twenty-five money lines it. I don't this was menu as impressive week to go. South hampton look very good against the wolves lick against tottenham taught him well. I like this walls team. Might stay away from that one. That's just epl. I mean we can go through this later but tomorrow. Let's just say if you had because you don't want to today jump on as before they. I'm into this sunday here but go back to saturday. Bundesliga leverkusen moneyline mice. One forty against augsburg leverkusen dog walk mushroom gladbach. Yep i mean this leverkusen team looks good. That's good value stood guard. Draw no bet against freiburg stewart. Very good squad. Freiburg doorman last week. I think at draw no bet at minus one sixty stick arts worth the shot here. Union berlin the double chance heroes again this year so far there against masha glad back i might stay away from that one. They were double chance. Mice one seventy. They're double chance mice to thirty. Now do that and then probably hop on real madrid against real betis. Real betis hasn't looked good real tied last week. So that's why you're gonna get reality one twenty five money line. Athletico madrid against villarreal mice twenty-five money line. Anytime you can get athletico up money line. I'm gonna take it and then severe minus one thirty five money line against l. che. I mean severe is a good squad. They won yesterday late. But guy from tottenham has been very good. I banged in a few goals. Lamella has played very well for sarah. So i like severe. Their league has been. It's been tough so far. Yeah i mean. Leon can't win. A game. niece has looked very good. Look at them money line against bordeaux saturday their minds one sixty right now niece. I mean they beat marseille in a bit of a turned into a bit of a dust up and then i might not know. There's a lot of other games here but league has been very interesting a lot of dogs but we'll have more closer to the weekend before. Get out of your odds. Boosts bluejays brewers cardinals all to win. Plus three seventy bluejays have the white sox so like that's not guaranteed brewers have the cincinnati reds definitely not guaranteed and the cardinals have flaherty going against who they playing cards. Yeah flared against the miz. I'm not taking that post that. Reds beer brewers game. I got a weird feeling about that. One maybe burns might get god i. There's no reasoning behind it. He's been lights out. But i just feel like maybe due to give up. A few zero runs scored first inning of mets and giants plus one thirty No thank you dow. Probably stay away. oh fucking double both the seattle storm in the washington mystics to win plus two hundred. Who was at the white house today. Bill and beer don't was it was. It was a bill in beer. What team is bill. Nba coat celtics for double play so the seattle at the white house. They're playing tonight yesterday. you know. Maybe maybe they're resting on there. I'm not taking. I don't do. This often. Told me. But i might sit out at wnba odds boost. Call me crazy tonight. Just usually i would but tonight i sit this one out. We should probably tweet out the rollover Yeah things fifteen hundred. Fifteen hundred fifteen hundred. We'll do that Good luck on that. Yeah ten teams ten leg mice one thirty or worse yes sir. We're back tomorrow. Low golf tournament. Oh supposedly yesterday..

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