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NPR News: 02-23-2020 9PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jeanine herbst in the race. For the twenty twenty Democratic presidential nomination candidates have their eyes on the next contests. Joe Biden is focusing on South Carolina's primary next weekend Bernie Sanders who won? The Nevada caucuses campaigning in Texas. Which holding early voting ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries on March third and people to judge rallied in Arlington Virginia? Just outside Washington. Dc Today trying to court a diverse voter base. Danielle Leslie from Member Station. W. Amu has more supporters of the former mayor of South Bend. Indiana stood in a high school football stadium in Arlington for a chance to hear him speak. Gabby Anthony were a vote for Pete. Pin in Spanish but the fifty two year old defense analysts said she didn't know many other Mexican Americans like herself in his camp. I think he still has a little bit of a challenge with the Hispanic culture. Too many folks that I know especially speaking family wise that he's connecting with Virginia is among fourteen states voting on March third. Buddha judge said if elected he will roll back immigration restrictions imposed under president trump for NPR news. I'm Daniela though. Meanwhile White House national adviser Robert. O'brien is denying. Us intelligence reports that Russia is interfering in the twenty twenty election to help get president trump reelected. I think this is a the same old story that we've heard before I I've seen the reports from that briefing at the Intel Committee. I wasn't there but I've I've seen no intelligence That suggests that I've also heard that From the briefers that that's not what they intended the the story to be. So look who knows what happened over at the House and the Intelligence Committee But I haven't seen any evidence Russia's doing anything to Attempt to get president trump reelected speaking their. Abc's this week with more than one hundred fifty corona virus infections and three deaths. Italy now has the largest number of cases outside Asia forcing authorities to ban public gatherings in a bid to limit the area of disease clusters in northern Italy have here's Silvio Jolie reports authorities say. None of the new cases have apparent links to the origin of the outbreak. In Asia on Jill Bora L. E. Head of the National Civil Protection Agency expressed frustration telling reporters health officials have not yet been able to pinpoint patient zero. The clusters emerged suddenly the northern regions of lamberti invented going from three cases to more than one hundred in just a few days officials in Lamberti. The hardest hit have shuttered schools. Universities Museums and movie theaters suspended all sporting events and even banned religious ceremonies in churches for at least one week. The governor of the Venuto region Luca Zaia announced suspension of the major tourist event in Venice. The famed Carnival which was to have run through Tuesday and can draw more than one hundred thousand people daily so Pohjola. Npr News Rome. Asian markets are trading lower at this hour the Asia Dow down just over one percent. You're listening to NPR news. From Washington the jury deliberations in the Harvey Weinstein raped trial. Continue for a fifth day tomorrow on Friday. The judge told jurors to keep deliberating after they sent a note. Asking if they could be deadlocked on some counts but unanimous on others judge. James Burke said no to the request. Even though Weinstein's lawyer said they would take a partial verdict. The case involves accusations from two women but the 67-year-old Weinstein says any sexual contact was consensual. The pilot who flew the helicopter that crashed in Los Angeles County last month killing basketball legend Kobe. Bryant and eight others have been disciplined for a weather related violation five years ago. That's according to the Federal Aviation Administration as Hettie. Lynne hurt he's reports. Faa records show pilot. Arizo Byron flew into airspace near Los Angeles International Airport despite being told not to by air traffic control so by an admitted his error at the time and took full responsibility and while records. Say there's no indication. This latest incident is similar. The January twenty six chopper crash also happened in foggy conditions as Bryant and the eight others were on their way to a basketball tournament in which his daughter was playing according to officials. Oh by and had almost cleared heavy cloud cover. When he crashed a memorial is set to be held at Staples Center Monday for the Laker legend and his daughter for NPR news. I'm headed Lynn. Hardy's in Los Angeles crude oil prices are trading lower and overnight Asian trading down two point six percent at fifty two dollars even a barrel. I'm Janine herbst and listening to NPR news from Washington.
Cindy Yu's Sunday Interviews Roundup - 28/06/20
"The Spectator magazine combines incisive political commentary with books and arts reviews of unrivalled authority. Stock up on your summer reading with a twelve week subscription and print and online for just twelve pounds, plus we'll send you a copy of spectator columnist Lionel Shriver's new book, the motion of the body, three space, absolutely free guilty to spectator dot coudl. Food Slash Lionel. Come to coffeehouse Schultz the spectators daily politics podcast. I'm Cindy and this is a Sunday roundup. Recent weeks have not been kind to the police. There have been to indiscriminate knife-attacks mass protests bras, breaking out on packed beaches, and even an illegal street party in Brixton, which saw twenty two officers injured. Sophie Ridge Interview the Home Secretary Pretty Patel and asked her about the difficulties involved in policing Britain under lockdown. What we've seen with gatherings, mass gatherings and protests is unacceptable and the violence that we've seen against our officers is also unacceptable. Resources are in place soon as I speak to the police leadership near enough every single day, I speak to cheat constables up and down the country. It's my responsibility to make sure that they are well. Resort also Walla quipped in light of the fact that we have seen more gatherings. We've Seen Street parties and we are seeing and have seen over recent weeks. More protests my message. Message is the same I would urge people to participate in gatherings of that nature approaches Rusada I. would also add to that. If people do police officers, they will feel the full force of the law, and that is absolutely the right approach. The peace will take they will enforce a little, and it is simply unacceptable people gathering in some of these offer ways that we've been seeing. Rich also brought up a letter resin. Patel by Labor. MP's who accused of gas lighting. People of ethnic minority backgrounds. When she said that she would not take lectures from the opposition on racism. Pataudi dismissed the letter as hypocritical Manhattan. They said that they were disappointed. At the way, you used your heritage and experiences racism to gaslight the very real racist and face, black people and communities across the UK. Do you think that some people have a particular problem with you as a? Woman. Who is a conservative? While I think clearly the case Labor? MP's say simply do primarily because they clearly take take the stance in the position that I just don't conform to their that preconceived idea or stereotypical view of what an ethnic minority woman should stand for. And represent, and in my view Sophie, that in itself is racist so very disappointed and. I've made it quite clear. I'm not going to dignify that letter or any further. Patel also appeared opposite Andrew Maher who asked her about the activities of the Housing Secretary Robert Jacomb Rick. Jack had planning permission to the media tycoon. Richard Desmond for luxury housing development in east London. The. Case has raised eyebrows on demand later donated twelve thousand pounds to the Conservative Party. Having saved forty five million pounds tax. Run through the very basic facts about this case that we can, we can agree about which first of all Mr Generic did. Sit next to Mr Desmond sent him Tex. He tried to arrange a meeting with him second the developer Mr. Desmond asked him quick decision, so he could avoid paying millions to what he called a Marxist Council third that Mr. January decided to do exactly what the developer wanted against the advice. Advice of his own officials, and finally that two weeks later Mr Desmond donated twelve thousand pounds to the Conservatives. Is All of that a coincidence? Well look I haven't followed the details of every single decision of this, but what I do know what I can tell you. Is that the correspondence? The documentation is out in the public domain on this particular application, and rightly so it's a significant decision a significant application. It has been the papers published. The Secretary of State is followed all issues around transparency. It's been discussed in parliament. A number of times questions have been answered on this and the matter is deemed to be closed. This goes through a quasi judicial process so I think on that basis documentation is in the public domain experience. The phrase is deemed to be closed. The prime minister said the matters closed, but lots of people not just Marxist councils Labor. Party people looking at this just like the smell. Let me read to you what? What the Daily Mail! One of your great supporters has said about this case file. A is Robert Generics Dylan his post, his decision to force through permission for a controversial housing development plan by billionaire, seventy data may not have been illegal, but it stinks to high heaven. If he had any sense of propriety, he would have resigned immediately off the deeply incriminating text revealed his cozy relationship with the developer. That phrase stinks to high heaven. It's lots of people. Look at this and feel but at the same time. There's been transparency. All of this in terms of documentation and correspondence and I think that's right. The public would expect that, and through that process of transparency that the masters now being deemed to be closed. The shadow wagon pension, Secretary Jonathan Reynolds toge Ridge it be wrong for the government to completely roll back the fairly scheme after at the end of October. The Cleveland Council radio over three million, and we have over nine million people furloughed as employers have to make contributions as part of the program starts the dangerous as many of those people will simply be made redundant if you look around the World New Zealand has extended a fellow scheme. Scheme it's wage subsidy scheme, twenty business still affected by a loss of revenue from the crisis. If you look at Spain quickly, they're extending it to areas like hospitals in tourism that are still affected. That's the kind of approach that we need, but it's only one part of it alongside that. Bring forward. Investment decisions make sure people. Young people are kept in education. Otherwise. Eight hundred thousand young people were into the labor market this summer. Worked in the past use the future jobs fund as a template for that. Just to be clear is labor calling for the fairleigh screened extended. Yes, it should be extended not in a universal way, but it a sector-specific way to make sure that as we continue through this crisis, we don't see those people co furloughed, simply made redundant input further onto the. On Thursday Kissed Actors Former Leadership Bravo Rebecca Bailey from the shadow cabinet. After she tweeted approvingly about an interview with the actress maxine peake in the interview, peak had indulged a conspiracy theory that the police tactics of kneeling on next used by the American police, and especially those responsible for George Floyd's death, a May was taught to them by the Israeli. Defence Force the shadow business secretary admit Aban told Mar why he thought Sacchi Rebecca Lamberti was the right course of action. Was it right that Rebecca long daily was sacked it walls. It's important to explain why Rebecca is a very decent person, but but the reason why it was a problem. The maxine peake interview, so the original interview Rebecca then tweeted is not that it had a criticism of the state of Israel I'm a big critic of what the Israeli government has done. A number of occasions is that it was a full criticism of the state of Israel linked or or rather the Israeli defense falls linked to the death of George. Floyd wrongly saying that somehow the tactics killjoy for. From the Israeli to let me explain what this is important point and the problem is that over the centuries when kilometers things have happened Jews have been blamed and that's why there was anti Semitism issue in that. In relation to this, and that's why I believe kit the right decision you think rebecca long barely understood that. Do you think she is? I think she is anti Semitic. I think she made a significant error of judgement. I I know Rebecca well I think she's a decent person, but let me tell you what this underlines. This underlines the fact that Kia recognizes the gravity of the her that has been called to the Jewish community of the last few years by our failure. You'll properly with issues of antisemitism an indication. He's absolutely determined to get on top of it because we cannot have a debate at the next general election about whether Labor's anti Semitic party, or the Labor is allowing antisemitism several left-wing MP's in the Labor Party rally to Lamberti's defense, including the former shadow chancellor John McDonnell and the former party chairman. Urged Party to stay united, and not turn this into an internal rift. John, Donald disagrees with you a little chill I mean very very senior member of the party. What should be done about him? It'd be done about him. The point about this is that I think. I think there's a danger here. which is that people try and make this into A. Wider issue. I heard somebody in your paper of you about how care wants to pudge these people, but he's not about purchase I made the guy let me just make this point he he's A. He's a principal guy. He's got with integrity. He wants to change this country and he wants to change his country by unifying the Labor Party, but also not having the Labor party sort of mired in issues which are frankly sort of provided Dane on us, but it's not exactly zero tolerance, if if Rebecca long billions remove but John McDonnell and many other people in the Labour Party. Stand in solidarity regional on Andrew. Still expel everybody in the Labor Party. Who who who who says well the the point the point is the point is Rebecca Bailey? Said this thing. The tweeted this article kid took. Very, strong action, and now we need to move on and deal with these. He's Anti Semitism that we let's turn to. The left in the Labor Party and their feelings about this. Because as you know a lot of people who really really worried, really angry like there's some people leaving the Labor Party some people staying in Lavery who was a former party. Chairman has encouraged rules in his words. Stay inside the Party and fight dude that what what they should do well. The Conservatives definitely I completely complete I. completely agree with you and labor. You know it's. Not a wider purge of the left, and by the start of citizens, and finally miliband gave his opinion on kissed Armas chances of features success one slightly mean question to Emma wit all she has gone. You've seen titus. You've given community. Mean questions the. You've seen kiss domino in operation. You have a few months. Yes, going to be a better leader, the Labor Party the new definitely. I think he can be seen that already, look. I certainly never had his approval ratings I. Mean Look I think he's made a great start I think he's made a great start. I think he's shown not just competent, but I think he's shown a the kind of seriousness that this crisis demands and you know what I think about care. I think the more people have him. The more they're gonNA see the integrity, the principal and the decency that I know really well. That's all for this week I'm Cindy and this podcast was produced by Math Salem. Don't forget to subscribe to the coffeehouse. Shots podcast on the I. Do and enjoyed this episode. Do Subscribe to a daily evening. Blend email it a free round up of all the political news each day along with analysis and Adare on what to expect next just not spectator dot cater UK forward slash evening blend. Thanks for listening and join us again next week. The Spectator magazine combines incisive political commentary with books and arts of unrivalled authority. Stock up on your summer reading with a twelve week subscription and print and online for just twelve pounds plus. 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COVID-19: How much can Italy endure?
"Dissolve sorry It's Nami on We are here only. We are a world to all for a few are worse and Comeback here and work because we are here for the patients over the weekend. Italy reported another six hundred and fifty one debts due to Kobe. Nineteen bringing the nation's death toll to over five thousand. That's the highest of any country including China. Since the global outbreak began streets and sidewalks normally bustling are deserted as the country remains on lockdown healthcare and emergency services. A working post exertion as Italy's government scrambles to find resources needed to stop the spread of the virus but our current efforts enough and what will be needed for Italians to endure their tragic loss and emerge from the country's biggest health crisis in decades. Hello I'm honored ninety. Welcome to the heat. Podcast on our television program. We spoke to Sima Gupta and independent journalists based in Ram about the life or death struggles faced by the government healthcare workers and the public during this escalating crisis. Let's have a listen similar? Thanks so much for joining us. Happy to be here. Italy has been one of the hardest hit during this current virus outbreak. The numbers are just staggering. They alarming in fact. The number of deaths in Italy has now surpassed that of China. Initially politicians in. Italy didn't take this very seriously. How has that now changed? Well I mean if you look at the response in terms of the so-called lockdown measures of measures to contain and limit the spread of Kobe Nineteenth. Interesting to see the progression. Initially there were these so called eleven towns up north where he saw a spike in cases and they locked down those eleven towns and then eventually became those northern regions of long buddy and Imia Romagna and so on effecting some sixteen million people then eventually that was founded up with the step of putting the entire country on lockdown. That's sixty million people so some do suggest in our critical saying that perhaps These figures of the number of deaths in the number of infections that we've seen could have been contained. If the lockdown measures will put in place earlier on top of that old. Saw this feeling that when you look at the impact that all of this had on the health system in the country That's another issue of. Why would see these high number of deaths because of course the the medical staff particularly up north in the hardest hit regions decline? Lamberti added working to the point of exhaustion nonstop. And we've seen some four thousand eight hundred doctors or so that are infected themselves and so this of course has led to increasing infections increasing debts when the health system is overwhelmed but the main reason that the authorities say that we've seen these large biggest is because of Italy's population. A quarter of the population is over. The age of sixty five and the average age of those who have died is era is above seventy so. That's part of the reason why this disease which seems to target the fragile invulnerable in this society seems to have targeted Italian population in particular so dramatically. That's right we have seen these very traumatic. Very distressing pictures of doctors. Nurses Healthcare workers working long hours stretched to the limit pictures of fatigue. How badly has the healthcare system in Italy being overwhelmed by this well? They're trying to do everything they can to support the system. I think it's important to note that Lamberti particular has a public health system that is world class It's considered one of the best places in Italy in terms of how well equipped it is at people often from the south where it's not as well equipped. They traveled to get their health treatment. So that was it a region that did have a everything in place that said there have been cast the health system in recent years of cuts as in various countries around the world and that may have had some kind of impact. But I think it's also the speed at which this Kobe. Nineteen virus infects others in has the impact on the population at because of this. And so it's simply a situation where the doctors are not enough. The equipment the MOSS. The ventilate is the protective suits. Just not enough on hand for them to deal with it until what they've done in Lumbini particular they've moved people who are in the intensive care units people who are not dealing with corona virus but now even people who are suffering from the corona virus of move them out of the region to other hospitals in today. The prime minister made a call for at least three hundred volunteers. Doctors from other parts of the region travel up north. He was overwhelmed. He got close to eight thousand Volunteering to go out there. And then of course they're also turning to the production of those mosques as well as ventilators to give you an idea Ferrari. The car manufacturer is actually turning to now producing ventilators and that has been response from abroad as well. We've seen a three hundred. Medical experts in doctors arrived from China together with equipment and those mosques and protective suits. We've also seen arrival of doctors from Cuba and also more recently from Russia as well as far as the lockdown is concerned. Sima Italians respecting the restrictions on travel. And on gatherings I think for the most part Italian especially for me here in Rome I can see. The people are following the restrictions. When it comes to social distancing when you walk down the street you tend to avoid the person that's next to you in the supermarkets the along lines simply because there's a limit to how many can be in the supermarket and in the line. Everybody respects that. Want me to distance that said though there are still people committing violations and not sticking to the lockdown measures are particularly as just on Sunday for example would ten thousand violations even though the measures have been increasing and becoming more and more stringent. I think one of the reasons is perhaps as a bit of a disparity or it's not been very clear message of how exactly these measures should be implemented. Then of course you have the elderly population. I'm hearing stories about how they are not used. They used to their ways and habits. Define these measures restrictive but the authorities are insisting on their message to stay at home. This is so unprecedented. Everything has happened so quickly. How people in Italy dealing with this emotionally. I think it's been very hard. It's really been a shift to the GUT really To see these dramatic numbers and dramatic stories. The fact that you can have the virus and a not noise and just spread it an impact your loved ones your parents and your grandparents since it impacts the elderly up so proportionately that's I think what's taken people by surprise. That said I think many talents feelings of solidarity feel. They have to do what they can. In order to help the healthcare workers in help those dealing with this the same time. They think frustrated because they simply stuck at home. And that's why we've seen these. Flash MOBS WITH PEOPLE HAVE COME up onto the balconies onto the windows to sing to clap their hands in applaud the healthcare workers you've got children painting these rainbows and the Hashtag of this tagline undrafted tobacco which simply means everything will be alright. I think it's their way to express that kind of solidarity. That said honestly. It's not easy being stock at home and families having to deal with continuing their work schedule but also dealing with their children. But that's just a a a a simple sacrifice to meet the real issue is everyone is concerned about their own health. The health fellow citizens as well bring another aspect of this and that is the economic impact. The Italian Prime Minister Giuseppi Kante. He has announced the closure of all nonessential factories. This is what he had to say. Let's listen more slowing down. The country's productive engine but we are not stopping. It is not an easy decision but a decision that allows them predispose. Took the most acute phase of contagious. It is a decision that is sick necessary today in particular to be able to contain the spread of the epidemic is much as she should see. What impact is this having especially on workers? Yes I mean. Initially there were in fact some reactions about the fact that workers felt. It was unfair that they were putting themselves at risk by being made to go to work to these factories when there was such a situation of contagion That said the government stepped in by saying they will provide the mass and the protective gear in terms of clubs and that factories had to function keeping to the social distancing gnomes that means perhaps cutting down on the number of workers and shifting the hours in the end though the decision was made to shop all nonessential production simply because the authorities felt they needed to put the health of the people in place in priority particularly when you consider the fact that people have to come and go to work. So it's that movement that they're trying to limit the walk because some of them want the greater protection in terms of the employer's association. Somma saying that this is going to have a dramatic effect on the economy here in Italy. Embiid production down a already. You have a stagnant economy here in Italy. This is just going to have a massive impact altogether and as fear from the part of employers that this is going to be a downfall for the companies and the way they are going to be able to function. They're also looking at what happens when we get out of this face. Hopefully we will out. What will happen to the future of the economy of the country? Which is wide. The Prime Minister had put in place that package of twenty five billion euros in terms of economic measures. But is that really going to be enough? We'll have to see what happens in the coming days and weeds book for the moment as the Prime Minister Satan and as most people in Italy health issues have to take the priority. This bailout package that you're talking about. Is it aimed primarily at helping companies or is there some kind of safety net put in place for individuals for families it's also for individuals and families it's also for the medical too often the healthcare workers that need the help? They need to help to in order to carry out the important work that they do but in terms of families for instance are helping them out in terms of actual money on childminding help simply if they have to go to work. How can they be at the same time looking? After their children. All schools close. There's also a help specifically for a ton of US works the self employed whether they're going to do because they're simply out of work so there are all these several packages that are in place to help workers to tide over this period and hopefully it will help somewhat but at that said. I think a lot of Italians are very nervous about what this means for their livelihoods and for their jobs and they're sitting at home and wondering why it's going to mean for the future. Sima we've heard many stories from Italy about the heroism bravery courage of healthcare workers and ordinary Italians themselves. But is there any single story that has really struck? You A story of perseverance. That got your attention. I have to say just speaking digitally. I think one of the things that really struck me was a photo early on when you saw image of an exhausted nurse and she just had hid flat down on a laptop and she was still wearing a mask and a protective protective gear. And it was just so powerful image to show the extent to which They're actually in the front line in this battle and having to deal with it putting themselves at risk and at the same time a working to the bad bone and really I think the overwhelming response in Italy in other countries as well. But I've seen personally here in Italy where most people feel an immense gratitude to them and at the same time there's also been Some frustration that not mall was done in the past to support the medical fraternity. The nurses the hospital staff and the doctors and also helping them in terms of getting the protective gear of one person. Even suggested what's the point of getting all these doctors to come in if you can ensure that they're protected themselves from the buyers as I mentioned four thousand eight hundred and twenty. Four doctors are themselves infected now joining us and that was our interview with Seema Gupta and independent journalist based in Rome Italy the heat is produced by CGT IN AMERICA EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS TEAR AT H. And the senior producer. John Gilmore our guest producers Jacqueline Fan Joshua baller produced today's podcast with Holly Shepherd and our director of digital development is Michael Sugary once again. I'm on ninety. Thanks for listening. You have a comment or question about today's podcast. Send US an email. You can find us at heat. Podcast AT CG TEN AMERICA DOT COM and please if you like the heat help spread the word by subscribing rating or leaving a comment with your favorite podcast provider.
65: Our Giro stage 17: My name is Luca
"Listening to this podcast at our d'italia brought to you by. I woke up flexible loans for small businesses today. We add in Beckham. Says you say road on says you say sad that she and all relying burgum Richard Beautiful Town in the heart of London. It has been there quite recently for a Lombardia which started their last year am on. It's well it's been in the news for safety reasons over recent months hasn't at a regular stop on the on the Jiro. We've been there many times over the years. Haven't we Daniel? Yes we have and it's a symbolic sixty four talion talking as mentioned recently in a recent podcast when we spoke to my coping Artie and Monica so Paulo. Santini of the clothing manufacturer Santini. There's a really strong tradition culture of cycling bed. It really was the center of the Cycling Universe up until not very long ago and has been terribly affected by the coronavirus crisis hits made the headlines around the world. Hasn't it in small villages is close to bed gum all the previously well? Who's only claim to fame was really cycling. Applies like name Bro? Which we're GONNA talk about? What sort of base camp for the famous Salvin or climb? It's on our route today. But we've seen named all which is a tiny village being mentioned in on TV news in the UK. I'm sure in other countries as well another place. Nearby is Cheney of course home to the squad. Cheek these most chaney which we're raising money for through the sale of Stacey Snyder's cycling podcast Jira monks and Cappuccino says and if you're listening to this episode very timely fashion well act quickly because at twelve thirty PM. Us East Coast time. That's five thirty PM. British summertime are six thirty. Pm Central European time the second and final batch of mugs and cups. Unisex go on sale at C. DOT com forward slash shop forward slash snyder ceramics details in the episode notes at the proceeds from the sales All the all the profits from the sales of those Mugs and cups go to the Recycling school and chaining near to bargain on. It was a good cause Suggested to by Marco penalty and Burgum. Also the home of Flea Gimondi. Wasn't that who who died last year. Great Italian Chamu heard about him from Sir. Paul Smith in Sunday's episode rich today. We're going through Lena. Which is the village. Philly Joanie was from where wear his mother was. The was a postwoman And I think the first woman in the in the village you had a week and she did her post rounds on the bike for years and years I think she lived till two hundred eight in the end. Ceo were mentioned fashion their Daniel. You're resplendent in your map a cap a clue props today's to the subject matter of today's episode Lionel. Any reason for your cows casquette that you've got perched on your head there Naushera related one. No just just a CASS CAP. Just felt like it. Also said you've had a I have yeah spawning of basic ass. Have you had that are quite enjoy that the red sort of what you guys installer similar drinks in in Italy cannot toys the famous one. Cardino non-alcholic tonic type. Drink during childhood trips to France and Spain and staying on campsites. I mean just seeing sort of an advertising board outside a cafe on a campsite for advertising casts used to make my holiday rush with with an old French franc coin and by kind of casts and that would be that would be me how the Lionel very happy as line. And I'm coming up today. Daniel well rich. You alluded to the main features. Today's podcast and we're going to be speaking someone who made his name at the my pay team me. We every day of course famously. A brief spell at a fairly a fairly down HEO capacity but we're going to speak into Lukaku wet Chilean. Who is the manager? Now on the trick Sigfredo team and he cut his teeth at Mapei. Way Back at the start of the while. The start of the millennium and Luca is from well a place just to the west of Milan where we would be staying tonight after the state of bed because tomorrow's stage starts in Magenta on not just down the road from where Luca was born and still lives. Whatever you hear Elena do other if you think of the Macarena. Hey Gweat Yuliana nobody back talk tough roads and Lombard. Can you give us a tale? The top please line I can indeed. Yeah we're going from more Ben Begnaud to Burgum. Oh One hundred and seventy two point nine kilometers. The first big climb is over the PASSOS and Marco but the one. We'll be riding Richard to sell know as Daniel mentioned reaches nine hundred forty eight meters. But it's famous for other reasons. Isn't it Daniel? Well it's famous in Jira history for Andy Hampsten winning stage there in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. It's famous for Tony Rominger when time. Trial mounting time-trial. Up the Salvino in one thousand nine hundred ninety five and yes the out of the region a lot of hairpins. It's actually quite a nice easy. Climb Napalm I think could suit you. Just you mentioned the first climb today the San Marco a fantastic a huge climb which is not that well known almost two thousand meters altitude. I would recommend it to anyone who was in that region another one. I would recommend which is just east of that. Is the puzzle review on it again? Not Very well known and a real well the dimensions of a real classic Jiro or Tour de France. Type climb very underrated. Yes beautiful looking to knows the particularly the area shots of the road kind of just draped across the hillside very nice. Indeed our route is thirty. Four point six kilometers and it's basically the climate and the descent of the Soviet. Not sure and the will notice ahead pins too much on the platform but here we go. Let's say how we got on the climb. Well crested the summit of the Soviet. Not sure but nice and easy. Daniel didn't feel lot to my tired legs but anyway bargain sites if anybody would like an easier right sixteen kilometers on Sunday for the final sage. Lionel on I will be writing ten. Am Brits the summertime? Come and join us on wave as you right past as I mentioned earlier the competent cops mugs made by Stacey Snider go on sale today. They're raising money for the squalor cheese. Cheney on Daniel they are so good spoke to at though my face of the squalor cheese mckanie. It's fine but more by the club and what they're planning to do with all the money that we're raising through the sales of mugs and capturing sits on of course the wind from divine sellers let you My in I think chief John Gotti. Tv TO POLICE. Deka chain has been going for twenty five years. Now we've had a few riders in our ranks who have gone onto term pro. And the Daddy Corrado who used to ride from Alexander but Saana who was at United Healthcare for years was another this year we have ten to sixteen and seven genius or under eighteen. We started the season with a nice training camp down in Sicily because we've got an affiliation with a team down there but then well we know what happened. Last Sunday was a first group ride with the boys again. We'll split into groups of three with one adult also ready in each group and the group's one or two minutes apart so there'd be no dangerous gathering all standing around together. No doubt come the end of the season. Some of sponsors will be looking at their investment and thinking. They can't renew give them what they've all been through over the last few months. We quite lucky though in the sense that we've got lots of little sponsors rather than two or three big ones. Maybe that will make it easier to weather the storm. I should also that the Italian Federation is trying to help out a bit. It seems as though they're going to waive the registration fees for teams and twenty twenty one which helps to save a little bit with the money raised by the cycling podcast listeners. We'd like to organize a couple of events probably before the end of twenty twenty. It looks as normal road. Races will be hard to put on. So we're thinking of maybe small circuit race kind of mess around the village of China. We can see the shoots of recovery in the region now. The numbers of contagion desk gone down a lot. But you still sense the fear everywhere which is hardly surprising given how hard we were hit. People are scared of a second way but yes based on all of the numbers. We've seen to be back on the right road again. You are listening to the cycling podcast at our. Did every time brought to you by. I work flexible. Loans beat for small businesses. I W. O. 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He's a very good friend of might minis and in fact Mike's business part of the shop was Tao's teacher up primary school small world and good to know that hails listening to our Jiro coverage. That's that's nice what you're enjoying it to deny. She say whether he was enjoy are not just the he was listening. We take that as a given surely well when we moved on you in two thousand seventeen. Four things stick in my mind. One was a state win for bogus to was seeing a supervisor. Four where Food La hang on? Hang on building up to the important. I'm surprised he's addressing this to me because I'm boycotting his own sex from now I'm dragging you back in bringing you back in the Prince of Savoy. We promised this all. Jira these podcasts. We're going to be a love letter to Italy. It's more like hey. Hundreds of years of nutrition Seattle for a walk. I ruined by pulled over by one teaspoon of garlic sauce with a with a lamb Kebab last week day. Ever GonNa live this town where you can kate mentioning anyway so the four things. I remember from Bergen were Bob Young. Who's winning the stage? Moreno Argentines time trial bike with a curvy. Talked to you within a furniture shop window. We saw leachate you. Mundi in the press room looking extremely deeper and all afternoon your you run the adverse that we're going to eat POLENTA in Bergamo. I think or we were going to be heading to wherever we were staying in the Lamberti playing. Well what went wrong? What we I think wrong did it. But we got invited to have a pizza with some colleagues and we went for a fairly average pizza in state and I. I missed out on Polenta because I went home the following day. So for this installment of illustrates Dante. I ordered some Polenta I ordered some Tuscan sausages to go with it. I mean mixing Marija but I made a nice sausage. Ragu and minds me of a famous friends three Lionel. What's what's Tuscan sausage sausages from skinny? We'll do we turn to tell that now reminding little is being told already has been it will come up again now anyway. Felicity Clark Award. Winning food writer and columnist for the Guardian has been running a fringe car over my recipe. Let's hear what she made of my Polenta. Isao feature ristorante has this reputation in the K. Is being very fancy? Chattering classes is linked to food. Because actually it's it's basically like the Italian Natalia crippling porridge here it's space. It's a staple crop is cooked. Impede Justin importer. So if you're going to be really fancy about it you can. I'd see milk pit in. He'd been sitting by decree but really just want Polenta ONE LENTE to about three Walter Needs Water boiling before you had planned to in any sprinkler on top while stirring vigorously And then you cook it really ready slowly because it turns very quickly Repairable to dumpster nets to a babbling seething massive lava that will spit on school during. Cornhole at your tend to hands. And ideally you. Cook it for up to an hour until it gets really thick and Creamy Italians really frowned upon quick cook. Philander I Do not frowned upon. I have to say But I had Sort of I've had in mounting reach intimately Ashley With with sausages goes really well with in across the meteor Italian sausages salsa lovely with loads unsurprisingly. Faster and cheese stirred into it and may sometimes they put it in the oven? Really Auburn with an egg cracked on top of it and some specs sort of kit kit ham and cheese and is just the nicest thing on a cold day yeah. I'm very big. Fan Of Jealousy guys because I've got none in my lockdown louder. Polenta is very typical of East in particular. You get a lot and up in the mountains as well and I thought that might have been a restaurant What you're referring to with your sort of jagged peaks of cheese that was sticking out quite as striking as an Asian Little bit of the it with the cheese And it. It's very nice. I couldn't I couldn't really tell what was going on with this strategy. Because records have a tendency justice like source for I think this is about in the I would have liked to have eaten matters delicious consistency to the plant. I think should spread by Nov on the plate and it let let us not and so yeah very impressive. I sit in this excellent. What's the secret to the POLENTA? Rather what is what is it supposed to be like the texture of it because it's kind of the people who criticize as being bland and grainy. Well you can get over the blandness budget putting loads and loads of cheese and butter in it but the greatness is kind of part of its character. I mean there's just not supposed to be whipped mashed potato smooth. No it should have that and Yeah Cool snus to it and that she can get very fine polenta but I think that loses the trauma comes by pasty and sort of like grew almost cilacap. It of a bit of text to the the secret is supposed to be that you cook You know an hour on and It's very hot work. It's actually when I making knowledge on the strongest man in the household stirs the planter Yeah it's real on and they take it very seriously. I do perfect. Sexual enormous amounts and buster and she's Which gives the same creamy affect with slightly less in the way of Muscular taxing Yeah just taught. Patience is Secret I would say and fat key to most things sort of watering lionel. Plenty it does look for your plans though. She's always got plant at the Jira. Don't you Daniel arguments between riders and Little Joke? There pollen him. Yeah I think police I think. Plans is overrated. Oh now discuss your well one. You didn't really care about Daniel in the best Polenta in the best plan to restaurant in Bergen new only at Burger. Rx I'll Falente polenta express night. Looks Good Napalm. Wh-which flower did? Which did you use Grenon tour co Turkish flour. Does this. There's always always control about which punches the right which flowers are out. I used I used a POLENTA. The I ordered it from an Italian Deli in London in Soho called communities. The label said it's from. It's from Lamberti. I mean it's got the name of the region on the on the back. It was very nice cloth bag get cooked cooked. Well needed a lot of stowing. One extrordinary piece of Trivia I I learned the other day Extraordinary and completely irrelevant and probably not worth mentioning. So embedded is polenta in the culture in Bergamo that when they deal cards. Do people deal cards? Usually clockwise I would ever unless they're doing it when apparently bug the other way. Because that's the way you started playing awhile and thin in the I. I've been reading for a later episode this week on Do you know that in the ninety four is a moral crusade against Pasta in Italy and it was believed they cause gets his them sloth and pessimism at the same time there was a law it was believed that cigarettes were the the the kind of fuel of gray athletes. Cigarettes were promoted among sportspeople quite widely was the owner of POLENTA. Are US behind this. Anti lunch was POLENTA. King of remembered the name of the restaurant own with the with the with the bicycling and We're going to hear from Daniel as a non fan as a Polenta so Kelly. You'll be glad to know that we're leaving polenta country and we're going to result country because as soon as you get the west side of Milan where look what China's from. That's very much resort country. While as you say we're going to hear from Luca Gorka Lena currently the manager Trick Sigfredo but he's been around for quite a long time Involved in in several different teams. You and he'd go back quite a long way. We'll hear about that later on in the interview. I Know Look Lena as the calmest man in facial cycling having sat behind him on a flight from Bilbao to Milan a couple of years ago. When we hit an air pocket fallow by hundred meters. That felt there were screams. People were crying. Mass panic broke and I was reading a book in front of me and did not. Flinch didn't flinch at all cool as a cucumber. Very calm rich and I thought very appropriate for this episode on our Jaren General because Winberg Gamma. We've mentioned Karenna vars epidemic and the effect the The ruinous effect. That is highly not region but Luca to me symbolizes to a certain extent. The rebirth will sort of green shoots in Italian talking. I've lost five ten years because Luke. Anomaly is quite unusual in the Italian cycling landscape in the sense they was not a professional cyclist. Someone who went to university and studied and has a sports science and physiology background and that always marked him out as someone quite different at a time going back twenty years when he started his career when Italian teams dominated but they were populated by old pros former pros and people who are very much part of the fabric and the furniture but having said that rich I didn't know too much about where lured. Come from how. He made his way into professional cycling. And that's how we started our conversation a couple of weeks ago while I grew up in Milano. Cd I move hearing. Cassini beat later when when I was married then by the okay I mean. You're talking about ten kilometres distant so not that far and not stories quite siebel. I was greg with my mom because my father died when I was four year old and we and we just we to delay was ten years old when she get remarried. And let's say a normal nothing spacious. I was a typical Italian boy. Going going to school to Church and I grew up like these than let's say. My stepfather was a East in a guy that loves sports so we always to do any kind of my mom. She was very protective was pretty. There were enough contrast on what to do but okay. Let's say his is all the parents as cool school. I but the my dad was say spot second so I practice a bodies kind of sports from volley from basket and the and then when it was a few steamed I went out for a ride and I sound friends with the normal bike with the Citi bike and enjoyed that much and I knew that in the neighborhood there was a bike shop and they have a the the owner of the shop as as a second deep for for y'all's categories so with my dad. When they are to ask you they were willing to still have me and and we defected was sleeping so close to the shop than they they say yes because that was really small team and I started there as Ida and her what from from that point. My my second career was immediately. If you me enough seeing to let me understand that there was not a champion. You look if we stop stopped there and just go go back a little bit So you'll you'll your birth father you three or four. Did you say when he died? Yeah three or four lane dies and with a doctor or a nurse or health worker. No he was a ambulance driver. Any was a candidate in in a in an accident was driving we'd be with. The LANSTON was the typical story. Sometimes movie but unlike is reality you. That evening was not his is sheet but the a friend friendly asking to to for substitution. And you went and a was never back and But that's life you know my mother teach me debt For much of the you have never to look back look forward leave with a member of the people and keep going for for me. You know my my grandfather was sort of a a hero because everybody when France and saw they were always talking about him like a hero because he died on the white working in a ambler by that being people in Salt so is been obviously these kinds of image I but then clearly when you grow up you discover so that You can be hero in a different way. And for what What's my my my childhood. The Sean you know have a lot of love respect for my mother that grew up. She twenty one when she was a widow as she called me out by yourself and then even for my stepfather that he's younger than my mom and adjust to our family and really did everything by himself. to to to grow up and this is not the Taisei but all my friends say that tees doing even more than a birth father so I think I was being that lucky at the end in my life and so then him as you said you sort of started off You know when you're about fifteen To ride yourself but just growing up. How aware were you of the? Ged Talian and cycling. You're your football found as well. I think you're Me l'enfant relieving Milan sports part of life. So for sure today you need to do to become a short fun of Melania Senior Inter Milan and I went for the first one because When I was thirteen these when you released to involved in in sports was the time of the meat on the Obama. Boston The Dutch three. Oh and so. I went that he'll soon stadium to watch matches. S On and So you were your glory Hanta. Yes on away. Yes and this was really really nice an nice time but yet I mean in that was nice timing Milano. I think that when I was a teenager even beat later. Madonna was a CD. There was growing very fast. We have talked about the eighties nineties. A law that's that's as most fear to feel the the moving the very active in In kind of stuff you know and Italy Italy in general Italy in general I mean in the eighties and nineties. It was a a period when At its peak I suppose economically That's That's was the the beak. I think that yeah we had. We had some seasons in which we really grow ops fast and good and well than obviously we have slow down and in the last few years all sorts of two thousand fifteen the exporting Milan was back to the growing up That really buddy nice CDs. So far now and so. I think that that's also me a lot in the way to be beaten issues or looking to the future knowing that you can change your fashion you know because I mean it means to be lucky to like Milan. Because he gives you all the tools you can You need to change your passion and You know I was Studying and then race and despite knowing that there was not to big champion genetic inches my passion and and focus mice Mortal studying ended up to the point. Eight nine for Scien- so this is the period of This is the Pantani years Italian cycling having a bit of a golden age of suddenly. As far as you know if you're a teenager illegal yeah when when When it was racing the first two. Let's say the through the the first race ever. I've seen to get involved. This was the world championship Fondriest in Rene because adding member the this scenario define Very crazy and then later on there was the door Capucci and despite that was leaving very close to Johnnie ban was a final gift for any s. Luke Luke awards who started. I think I've I've written about this in office people about this before but I can't and a can't remember exactly what the conclusion walls but as far as you can send what made someone. It's a bit like Milan and Inter. It's not necessarily geographical it's not. There's a bit of politics in there but not always is a bit of religion in that but as far as you can send what made someone like Buna Capuccio the other way round. While this thing is the most was the attitude to race. I mean Johnny was more classy style and you know he doesn't speak death much more. Were Count Person. Why kept which was a veteran active passionate and lost to attacks and song so There was a recipient the distinction between Let's say a classes tied and aggressive side. So when you're young pro good more going to the the aggressive Stein why. The elder people are looking for the for the classes. Titles of Johnny was more. It's more Officer yeah but when you when you when you're young you look more aggressive passion. Just go without thinking that much so I think that's was the big the the reason why I was I was looking more for Pucci than than dining they Sakhalin five cast at our. Talia is supported by scientists sport sciences. Buoyed fueled by science. Thanks very much to science and sports still pirating me Roy into our Jiro and support thing utilised Thursday with the code. Sis CPI twenty-five which will get you twenty five percent off all your science sport goodies at scientists sport dot com that's SIS CPI twenty-five once again. I recommend the energy bakes on. I think the strawberry or my favorite flavor I've got strawberry lemon and orange here Fewest laughed of the strawberry. So that tells you that they're probably my favorite and they they're gonNA come in handy this week. Diane with a couple of extra long stages of our Jiro. Anyway we before the break there from Talking about his his background is suppose it was interesting to hear him talking about the Kea put she years m you know one of the great rivalries in Tyne Cycling You know which there have been many over the years. I was quite surprised that he was a key. Pucci mom because as he said keep put she was very emotional and impulsive and and Bruno seem to be far more calculate thing and cool cool-headed and as I earlier that's how I look at Gorge. Selena's cross a cool customer rather than an impetuous character. Kippur was a prodding rich. But I I don't think the really is anything to this. Look quite. Give me the answer. The I was looking for about what what determine whether someone was one or the other keeps your boone and is similar. We love Italian. Football teams is sometimes. There is a very strong religious subtext or political subtext but sometimes there is there is not and I think the main as Luca hinted at there the main the main thing that determined whether you put your Bruyneel was well it was a kind of emotional thing but there was also an age element to it as well as some demographic every element to it and I think the younger fans tended to be more attracted to pushy. But as as we heard Lucas say. They're rich. Heated have given up on his dreams of becoming a professional cyclist early. Then gone onto what? He started training as a coach in physiologist and he worked for junior teams where he coached took care of genie teams under twenty three teams. But he's about to getting his big break and join the the Mapei talent factory and encounter Aldo. Sassy for the first time. How sassy and later became famous as the coach of Cadel Evans but he was also a very influential figure at Mapei and he was also as I mentioned about. Luca Danni upset. He was an antidote to the sort of Michaela Ferraris and these sort of notorious names that have been associated with great success in Italian cycling but also associated with some of the show the shade your headlines around Italian stocking at that time although Sassy was an by reputation quite different and he found a bit of a kindred spirit in Luca the interesting date Luca September ninety eight because I was about to ask you as a as a young young guy who who studied sport science and know passionate about cycling was innocent and I suppose you know maybe naive. Did you have any doubts about going into close contact with professional cycling? Everything about time in two months off to the FESTINA scandal and and as far as people concerned that was all professional cycling walls. It was just doping. Well I used to tell when a when a sector not pay. The line of pay was very very clear already so I feel very protected despite Whatever was going on inside because Aldo gave directly aligned that the being trainer A Dick's and that was just work on making people better not affecting their health and stuff like this. So for sure was a was a hard time. We knew that the medical side was a heading Sort of a darker influence on the the sport but For what was concerning me that he lucky because a album protected the auto voss and gave us a Cleopatra Stamp as just coach nothing more than a coach so talking about the force and repetition and stuff like these non not about the other kinds of stuff and and a dead time. I was working for the most. Just we the with the young guys you know so we took like A like a mandate to start to teach the young generation to say. Cycling is just a Lincoln on a bike in that seat and try to start to make a To make decent sold. What was did program of recycling in the in that era and I think that's a it took a wide but then we achieved Full years from then until my pay until doctors quincy put out but did you and Aldo and everyone And particularly the physiologist particularly support scientists Feel more and more isolated over those four years in that in not line in those ethics not philosophy. Because you know things didn't change anytime cycling. Whatever problems Italian cycling out over the next fifteen years know some of their roots? Their origins were in the the failure to listen and heed the messages. Were coming at times. Yeah I mean for sure was we felt that we are different that for sure but simply because Mr Screen sees start to give clear lines on which were the range we which we would like to work so I personally account say he's elated. I think that's was more affecting property that either. So we knew there was a couple of situation we Wear feeding greedy isolated but so fought for what was concerning Gaza. A lab especially we working with the young guys. We didn't feel isolated and we weren't even more motivated because we we. We sold going in a different direction but it was the right direction. So let's say was a More concern contest on what what was going to happen outside. You Know An said we knew that was a global mental sets change Any would have yes. The feeling was that who are in the right direction. So that's why we'd never felt through the is related because we have the support from deep from the owner of the of the team of an awful lot so I think that the he talked about his relation for US listening is not the right word but we what they felt was more when we offer to start what we tweak and identify is director coach and that was the first time that coach means coach and it was probably one of the first one. That was the next Bro. You know so. There was more a situation in which you constantly to explain what you doing in that. The in the team because before was more than doctors taking care about the physical preparation in and the coaching why the fear of a Guy That was just coaching Focused Justin pugh performance or something very new. At that time I feel more. I can't say is related but The knowledge English but the white fly Yup white fly. So that's was was a was the law that feeling and Mapei Luca you ended up man taking care of the well. What was what they sort of called the young team the the third division team the the young group another time which has become sort of well very fondly remembered especially by the writers who were part of that group that Bernard is those people bottle Kansilanga. They still talk about it as the best years of their career in a lot of cases know we know a lot of those names. They went on to have great careers Michael Rogers was another one But there were a lot of guys who didn't have great careers the Pavel's Azanza and CIANO gas people like that if you look back now if I'd Osteo in the first two or three months of that project who is going to succeed and who was not going to succeed. How would you have been in your predictions? I guess that from the to From those groups the to that for sure out different qualities where potent conscie- Lara Be Course for the most way era psychological lot did they add way different. Really focusing on Enjoying their life at the time but meanwhile you see where physically do wear champion. So once their their focus went board owner from enjoying life to be either. I was almost sure that they would have been great successful writer. Then there was another Group of riders. That was that strong. I mean when I speak hours disparity Michael Michael was already in a structure of the Was set up so it was difficult at times to predict stronger. He could have been because the eveready be big assistance but the safari than he proved that was also a great writer for many others. I mean you felt that they would have been a good good having good career not going too far because of a some of them as good physical. Data a psychologically. We're pretty weak. You know old and assembled damn. Uc WAS UH was adopting too fast to at at the instead of of Taking care about the themselves for for focusing on on big results and so far I think that the project was would because in two thousand two we have forty. Riders Think Each of them respond ace. And then we won't fifty nine grace in the season and till March we are the first theme In in the world the second ranking deliver. We'll give too much point that we can match it but was a great experience because we have We have many victories. And I any pool that he should make the selection that you are able to to create the The base for the for the first division team. That's sort of I look study the Dan give the actress citing I think in two thousand and one around about two thousand one. You'll say tested a very promising British writer Daniel Daniel Freda think you're look. I remember testing you. Yes you're a very promising but you're like my all right you got into five neatly which wear your limits and finally you get On a direction linked to cycling. But not as a good choice. I think you overlook the fact look at I was. I was over train that day. I remember when I did the test. I think he my my via VAT. Max was covering with sixty eight or something like that. But you know it could have been in the low seventies on a good day. I think you missed out. I think you know future. Graham School winner slipped through your suspect. Something up and you're looking just to sum up the the map period. I mean obviously In the last few months we've had the very sad news. The Doctors Quincy and his wife by In in quick succession. I'm just a couple of months ago but You know when I talk about my pain only there you know. I was working in the company for a few months. And whenever I talk to about the sort of level of integration of the company on the on the team and how proud people who worked for the company where of the team and know maybe because my pay was a company that made quite a product. That wasn't glamorous and you know you go to a dinner party and say you work for these company that conversation maybe maybe stops but if you if everyone knows you know the about the Mapei cycling team then it's a completely different conversation but what I mean what are the sort of the themes and and things that you explain to people when when you say. Mapei was kind of different than it was an unusual and it was unique. How how do you explain that to people? But I think that the IMA- pay were proud to be part of the company and that's what's coming executive from An MRI spots city because The team was a stretch strategy within the company was not just having fun. Giving your brand name to a to a cycling demand that seat you know. We were feeding part of a global picture in which okay we race. We define define we'd give emotional led no brand and at the time the company got benefits. So you feel bought. Defense Mechanism. That was giving gun was giving benefit to everybody in the company. And and you feel very proud of that and then you see feeling that the Mr screen see has We the people and I'll Macci let you feel part of of that project than I think he's a is equality the just speak leaders have Never having the feeling to be just someone but he was feeling really a bottle of the group of the company you know and and you finalize it. Now I think that all the people that work for the form more bay they have the same feeling and I think that that's Wisconsin exactly because Mr Screen see was a great leader and he has a a great group of manager become by him and the those manager. We're giving you Older tools to get say to develop your passion in a in a job and having fun but Steve Eating To progress and deliver. What was a really your hundred percent capacity. And I think that's why my based a great company and the St and the people that are linked to that project. They're stiffening proud progress. That on away I think they really changed cycling Because was the first probably really linked to be company you cycling to increase East market. The is market. The law using cycling. Greedy has tried to build up to adopt a company so I think it was a really a- estimate consider flex sheet for photo processing movement Evidently think and then don't quincy way takes the decision to leave in two thousand and two in You go onto to quickstep. I mean over the next few years I just wanted to sum up You as a coach and someone who knew the Amish to seen in Italy new Italian talking very well at that point I see those next few years as the years when they retire. Millions was still winning kind of underneath that that was where Italian cycling started. Bit Wrong You know at the amateur level and you know the problems that maybe we've seen in the last five or six years that the roots were were in not decade. Really We would you agree with that underneath. So what do you think was was going wrong at that point? Well I seen this when What will into doesn't travel to do to fix the time and called by by Lebron CRESPI did their setting up the team Any tally that time. was very complicated on the side. Simply because had. That's my believe all the let's call it. The people that working in the dark pro cycling in the nineties Then they you today restriction and the Reuss and the and the new mental said that we stopped to to to in the pro citing moved down to the to the amateur cycling. And that's was the that was the big problem you know Because then over did you find also less boss me. The terms allure cultural Lebanon. So was easy for people from using you to win that easy to get to to attract attract by this and And that's create a treat a BA- gap on watt wear the ideal scenario of clean sports versus. What was the The reality the young teams by the said is correct. There was the roots star. Visits coming from very far and it was a tough beat it because we we need to change but I think that the challenge was very deep wedding very hard but the end I truly believe we succeeded and I think the death was was a was worthy the fourth. You know you can suffer. Because maybe you change fostered than others but at the end what is important at a long-term everything as at the big change in the at bat cling to Kawai Sometimes you see now you you find out someone. That doesn't understand Our tease but I think that the ninety nine percent thirteen got the big big change. So that's the most important thing I guess of course parallel to that. I mean cycling was becoming more global anyway so the Italian influence was kind of diluted but also Italy's country was maybe hit harder than other places by the global recession wasn't yes yes for sure. I mean the moment We went global. The even you need if you need to lead the suckling countries very deep We were losing something. We were losing ground. I think old the others continent encounter get adapted faster to what was cycling and find new resources especially Macabre and I think that Dan in two thousand eight when there was the the big rich Ashen chance for shores thaddeus Cycling Nusa beautiful ground especially in a keeping active the Tony'll structures you know because I think that the the Talian Movement is alive. Because as many riders many staff the director who is one of the best and so on But as well I mean you don't have any more the economical base to keep alive structure. This can be easier than defied as Italian than you miss something you know because I always used these example to let understand people. I mean when you are lost the or at least a yacht sailing in a in a C and you need a lighthouse to refer to so even if you have many many sheep's on the all sailing but you don't have a you don't have ally faust who to use as reference than is very complicated that everybody going in the right direction and. I think that's what happened. We'd site we inside can get yet. We not lost our economical power than we lost the sport our performance power at the end. We are not able to sit up anymore. Bekim that can be used as a reference for all the other a a pro team contending team Ramat of teams and. That's I think he's speaking for the for county. There's a psyching. Need his skull for that Gazed Baltimore in the coach. Did you feel especially when you went from pay to quickstep and you a while? It was still a sort of Hoffy tiny and environment. You know another culture as well Belgian coach. Did you feel that you'd come? From a country that was out the full front in terms of training methodology. Physiology that you the Italians were were slightly ahead. Yes absolutely I remember that The difference between working with desk coming from a pay versus right is coming from from other teams. Especially if you're burgeon sorrel. Let's say other countries. In general there was a huge difference. I mean we dodged that was the the physiology analysis the testing capacity the really the auto draft the trading scandal was something really deep In our water in our methodology. Why La in two thousand three? I still remember there. Were plenty of riders. Do just going on on feelings. Not even using heart rate monitor. Something that need that he was since years lost and so was it was a big difference. You know and then you need to a good coaching. Needless to adapter under under either you are in France so with someone we our full deep inner training scandal with someone other we are still we are still discussing about how to use a heart rate monitor and and I think that the was nice was challenging but they believe that we had a very good team over there because the was the you know old yere. Tash come from a team any meanwhile we have set up in. The county does a in Gaza as a national sport. And I believe that's author can In Alabama at the time they were able to really sit up buddy buddies. Nice Group of people that That can really focus on on the performance in on victories because they are e the was a clear line that focus on the one day as for the most but The mentality was treating Tweeden each race which we take we thick and you mentioned the favor that the first time the while you become sort of you'll name Becomes quite well known in the public is obviously the Leopard Trek. Here's where you know. The star of your process stalled the process. Which lets you becoming team manager. But you'd come from quickstep I mean. How much had you learned from lab because in the space of a year. Oh two you're effectively in position In a big team what. I learned a lot from Patrick because I take was the guy that gave me the opportunity to go with the junior team in Belgium when he was delighted. Two thousand something at least to make the Flanders Junior so we selected young guys went up there and was on my side teaching me about what means to raise on Kabul's on how to do this What to do on how to an and consequently held to train people for those kinds of classic that later on we work together at Quick Symphony was the leader of the team. I think that the the main the main lessons I got from me. Moore's I always get surrounded by good people that believe in your project and this is something that now finding the of leadership but I remember that at the time he already saying that. The stop of stay with you forever. Why the riders going in and out of his motos. Now he he says yes. Correct any through. I mean if you if you read the books written by big leaders company. They're all saying the same Than the in other lessons that I said we deem is just to Find out that We linked to progress. You know. Say the big champion is always helpful but is is a way that always to have to have a young guy that the relied to move up instead just focusing always on a on a big champion you know and I think that's the social about a good lesson any something dirty eastern going on doing and He's unbelievable holiday. It keep going scoring and the third less on his. He's always that You've never do step back. You know when you talk about the whatever starting from also cheaper to do other kinds of of discussion that if you really believe in something you need to keep chasing it and not the not setback not get destroyed by the what is around by radiator. Voice his swollen. Just focus on what you really need and tried to to to get it. And that's why when it manage it ends at the the tracks than my first multiple was going. You know of course something. The coming from the era touch of of body. And as I believe you. I believe that Tees Ronald of people that Dara key my life you know because if the not met Botchy even Tomica say album was not a position now. Another thing The is always been a bit of feature quickstep liquid. How international it's being. I mean okay. It's got a Belgian soul and had a bit of a half an Italian haw at times as well but it has been very international. And anybody think of your team throughout it's fairly long history now almost a decade snow and in the last twenty years or so we've seen some teams that have really made that work. Htc will one. That really made that working. We've seen others where the lack of sort of clean identity whether it's a national identity or something else that has been seemed from the outside to be a bit of a hindrance. I mean how much will where does that come from? He's that something that trek want. That is International as possible. And how hard is that to deal with? At times well for sure defect be global and into an international team when we talk about the nationalities represented escom mean From the spokesman. I mean even at a time that learning the time of Marseille in which has said. The team was really marketing tool to promote the brand. And I think in this case What I learned that time these values we track that. He's a senior company. So global with the You know spots everywhere and east present demand so many of constance so I think that's what he's coming from From from that is through that There's a pro and contra even being an international team you know. The good thing is that you're not stuck in typical counter mentality own Because when you have seventy five eighty percent of the people of the same country than you can have some limit because everybody thinks the same and you don't feel anymore the the sparking on worst fear that when when you have to deal with friends the mentalities in the mean wind is very good to be involved in a global team because You can deal with the different culture different way to see the problems or find solutions and so on but through the sometimes as well you miss Kind of faulk entity in certain ways that you need the job. You're part of a council you know I mean when the wars Agility and there were eighty five percent way already thaddeus that you know that at the Geo that was going to kick ass seen on whatever was happening but that was there must as well. As when we'd quick that we went through the budget on Gracie say we need to try to find out? They tried to start. You feel. That was was different. Being global is through that you're more attractive everywhere but sometimes you need that kind of a specific the attitudes that said I believe that when you have great rider. Great leaders as riders than everything. Go back in his place because the everybody's motivated despite the nationality to get the results and I think that that's a that's the big a fault you we have listed West st managers. The I remember On impact your Seattle and Avi say indeed. Thanks English Saudi. At least we are here in the bus with people both subtle. He tried to winner. Today was not able to win but for me. It's the same. My love for you for him is the same even bigger. Thank you very much. Better leave before. There were cases exchanged. What was the day I remember? Very Fondly Daniel. Cheeto and people possess potato went so close to winning not stage. Go Away on his own. I was caught by marauding bunch or at least one or two off. The front. Roger Kluger won the stage for am cycling the day after the announced they were pulling the sport altogether by a great moment of. I don't know what we would call it You know the a moment where the caricature of positive that Chiro has carefully cultivated almost caricature cheer is homeless shelter wasn't a caricature which is really in stark contrast to the to the image. That Luca painted there. Because you know I mentioned all the great. There's a panoply of young stars that Mapei held at that time. And you know look who's quite adamant. That OUGHTA was was one of the most talented. If not the most talented alongside being. Can't you Laura and you know it's the time when he wasn't pay people predicted in a glittering future for him. I mean he went on to have a good career. Let's not forget. They did win milan-san and he came close. He was on the podium in in other monuments as well so it wasn't all sort of clown shoes and you know it's to his. We've discussed the four hundred to his credit that he embraced that that character in the last few years of his career. Cheer and I've been speaking a lot about recently because I think as we've mentioned in the podcast recently. He's organizing the Italian national championships this year. Which has been a bit of a moveable feast because of the calendar changes and. I can't remember exactly when it's supposed to be now but it's going to be in his home region. Of course we always used to refer to potshots and still do as Yvonne Eddy some rigo the Peacock of Sandria which is ways from. And we've taken to calling the tally national championships. He's organizing as Legrand. The PAVONE Lavon Arthur would be like the Peacock Party or the Big Picot make I mean. Meanwhile the the peacock of Coventry 'em Stein's a stark contrast to present or somebody who who them you know didn't take himself too seriously as an athlete housing hard to not clip their dino. Maybe you were somebody who to yourself? A little bit too serious is an athlete. Or certainly someone as always somebody says Oh. I did the task much shoes with to toy or I got the nation. If you're trying to encourage not to say that you were the one that go away. I thought he very subtly very gently. Very politely confirmed that you definitely made the the correct career choice. Lucas few top riders slip through few minnows. Slipping through Bob Bob Young. I mean I see a lot myself involvement. I mean he's another rider who eluded Lucas grasp. So you know he's got former unfortunately as much as I'd my what he's done at Trek Sigfredo Trek Sega. Freighter incidentally which. I should've mentioned this earlier. The the owner of the Sigfredo companies currently marooned on these boats subway. Ask somewhere in the Police Islands. And he's been there for three months. Wow probably coffee. Ben IS E. Welby you might well be on the anyway. You of insulting me. No no no. That was fascinating to hear 'em on the I mean the team. Have I thought. Start the season extremely well. Yes for Stove and obviously when it hit. Us Blonde. Am He looked very good thought? Much Patterson looked extremely good. Like he was shaping up for big bigger targets. Further down the road and Skeptic start with a couple of wins then broke his leg than and other horrific injury. And they've got Vincenzo. Nibley now on the team haven't they? They started the season looking. Pretty lively thought. Yeah they have. I think it's a team that has had a very international character. And this is something I've spoken to Luke about before. The that brings advantages and disadvantages. One of the advantages is that you don't necessarily get clicks in the same way that you do other teams but but at times the team can can feel as though teams like that can feel as they lack a soul and they lack a strong identity and they lack of really sort of unifying galvanizing force when for example they are doing the big races for example the Jira in Italy. They don't have a strong Italian corps. That feels the race more keenly. Non An international team same at the Belgian classics. I mean even star. It's incredibly international. Their director sportifs. They've got Danish spotting for Dutch direct to sportifs French and I think that's posed a bit of a challenge for them. But I'm you know they've certainly had some good ride. As of last year's and lucre still got very good grasp of where the talent is coming from particularly in Italy. He's got a very good network and a good talent. Spotter I think deserve a mention to for the women's seem look has overall responsibility for that as well and was very involved in setting atop and they think it's fair to say you know after one year raise the bar a little bit and women's cycling and the way that they're doing things and the way they present themselves at races and so on and so that's been our a positive addition and we're going to hear from the again. Shall we hear from Chiro again? I with the latest slection for his Dream Team team. We cheetos number four. The our listeners. Also got Paredo for at the Tour de France two thousand and six after Floyd Landis these -cation for my visit and east of in Vigo Spain for the fact that he's apartment was really near the sea and for the fact that when my interview ended. I spent all day at the beach. Thank thanks Oscar to live near the and not on some pelegrina. So only a couple of riders. Two or three right is left to three spots to fail on on cheerers Dream Team Jira Dream Team. The team manages to come in. And sportifs. How we thinking that it's shaping up so far interesting. Mix of writers move at eight. Oh we've had promos as David Miller we've had contact Knee belly cabin dish. Kevin this county pods are two obviously. Is There Alien Radio Vivani? Yeah it's an interesting Eclectic line-up isn't it really anyone to to fetch bottles? Yeah mark can do that on on his on his day off off his day. Well I didn't ask Luke Kuechly Lesnar to name his. Jiro Dream Team but I think it would be interesting if we we did a quick run through of some of the hits Mrs of his managerial and coaching career. So far spending his map for years two to the present day at Trek Sigfredo. Some obvious names and some slightly less obvious ones as well calls from that you was training more than the people thoughts because everybody says machines not training your lot in love aloft say Sadegh because then the other competitors giving more shots I guess I I think was a was a was a a great worker and I think that is big power was really the mentality. I mean The day like to win the race you start to feed. Its in the morning was amazing. Close friend now and and after say was that either that teach me the most that not meet teaching him. Bam. You knew. I've ECLECTIC TWAT new capacity or any was was an eas refunding guy At that time was a clear teammate. Giving everything for everybody but I believe you could have a lot of more because he has the capacity to win lot of more. I think he's a guy that love lot to stay in a good company and And enjoy people and e prefer prefer to help the others instead of being hindered in the in the front page. I thought were speed. The the one of the a I work with and I think for Schutte Years. Also one not enough for east capacity But the lock depending because Vati sense to keep person despite what people think and oft any Too much involved in team situations in which she has not to an extent to just focusing to today's but I believe was E- easy was one of the biggest snack. Windy Negwa not the porno off and this lack. I can easily say that He's was just touch by God's and God told them would be by cry because I think he when you speak about pure talent I think anti Isa One of the biggest because Was was able to make performers even without training that much just because the engine was so beaked at the that he can do everything but as many time. And when you ought to. You ought to be tolerant. Then you have not maybe the capacity to keep everything in your hands and I think that that's what the all what was a was. Andy you know you was So good and everything comes so easy than when he is yes to face difficulties. That was morning trouble than Than other drivers less capacities police got out and decided just to leave everybody else to ply including so this is Chris. Horner reaching out for this crowned. Chris I I agree was a great surprise to see winning. The the westbound crease was a was is super funny guy and that is lovely to work with him and in In that welte eighteenth that we was able to weed because I was very strong writer of especially because underestimate all the other screw champion in that race especially the first ten days. They gave him too much advantage without considering that. We're not too much time trial because trial essentially and increase was coming from a about strong year. Starting the second please at Urano and was the guy that was fresh than on the other coast to the front. So I can say was very strong. I can go see that. We use a good strategy and we were. We had a lot of the time who generally don't do is difficult going allies because you always claim health problem after east. Great season with us at the moment. I told you was lazy but a person. That is very difficult to define. I think he would have been released. Newport three gets but Probably he comes to the point after many years struggling twelve twelve. Let's call it a good life in which gave up. And then he was not able to perform any more and he has tweet has done it again. Another day in pig for him. I know what was going to deny us. He's I think he's a very strong rider at talented writer and I believe E can be one of the reference for the one day race. Why don't believe we'd be edgy? See I this if not in grunt tool where there would be not too many top finish. You should be a gun tour. That has an many time trial off long long. Long Time but For one day race especially India Dan. I truly believe that he can be reference for many years. This Jodi took it very very early on stage five night whereas on the next to him a purolator purolator I e a would have worked with AL bad throw ten years because I never seen someone with such leader capacity enabled to fallout from estimates hundred fifty percent t trace but today's debarring everything for the team and for the team mates I E. I was very price to discover that He could not were battle longer. Thanks for the four six nine nine Brown. Bro That's That's heartbreaker memory. And all was a guy I mean. We removed to track together into Lebanon. A lucky I two hub signed the paper was there on the road and Something I would have never thinking thinking my life to to do that. said stymies gentleman these bowling. Because those are memories that you can never forget and time by steeler betty emotional when I think about that moment and this guy is you know. Because he's a was a guy at the top of his age and in the in the ramp to Abidi Gruber rider and that's crash seem away and he's re outbreaking. When I think about demon was shocked when I think about the the the life and times of Liquor Greg Chalet am the boss at Trick Sega. Frito and why I know you've known them for a long time Daniel. Yes I have rich and We should have said as well the this is a bit of a double headed. We've got coming up because it's ten years since midway through the two thousand ten season behind the scenes at what was then by some people's reckoning the best team in the World Saxo Bank it was a bit of a mutiny taking shape and a lot of the best writers in that team so the Schlecht brothers cancer Lara and others were plotting to leave. Beyond reese and and join a new team. Luxembourg based team which was going to be called Leopard Trek and one of the most influential figures or one of the main figures in the management. That was going to be Luca Ricci Lane and really trek. Sega freighter is sort of a continuation. An shoot of that project. Lukoil went to that team but the manager the the other figurehead of that team was a gentleman by the name. Brian I. I played this with Brian before the episode today. It doesn't mind if we pronounce his name wrong. So we're GONNA. We're GONNA call him. Brian I got For the purposes of tomorrow's podcast. But Brian is going to be the subject. Or the The main feature the main attraction of tomorrow's podcast which is all wind stage. We going from Week where we go from we from my Jane. Is it bit of wine? Link Magenta Magenta sort of colored sort Magenta robe of a wine. None Image Yup Yup red radishes and Ruby this Ruby Yup spectrum. Isn't we go from Magenta to but all through the hills langeais hills in Piedmont and we're going to be talking about wine and Brian is someone who is passionate about wine and who is no longer working cycling. He's working in the Wine Industry today but we can have a a nice catch with Brian Tomorrow here about his time that press officer as a journalist and now as a winemaker indeed well until tomorrow thank you very much Lionel. Thank you Richard. Thank you Daniel. Thank you chumps to show role. Shot Bushby a new thing.
Cities in quarantine
"Welcome to multiple twenty fours the urban est show about the cities we live in. I'm Andrew Talk Coming up on today's program. It's a virus. He doesn't care about business class or economic Fares he doesn't care about the board or a wool and he doesn't care about your socioeconomic status what happens when a city shuts down many places are facing quarantine Jews the covert nineteen virus. But what actually happens? When a city closes today him with some of the worst areas look at pandemics of the past and to the future to see how our cities will change in the wake of corona virus. That's all coming up right here on the east with me. Andrew Talk Well. Acids are going through a very strange facing the threat of corona virus spreading through populations across borders. Many urban areas are being put on lockdown. The epicenter of the Corona virus outbreak was the city of Wuhan many others in Hubei Province which have been in quarantine since late January restricting travel to and from the area as well as activity within the city's quarantines in Italy followed in March when the Lombardy and Veneto regions experienced their own outbreaks of locking down some sixteen million citizens in the north of the country. The precautionary measure snowballed the next day. When all of Italy was quarantined on the evening of March Ninth Monica Staff and correspondence around the globe have helped us to keep perspective of life inside these affected areas and provided first hand insight into how cities have been changing. So I'd say we're going to a first to Milan. The most populous metropolitan area in the heavily effected Lamberti region correspondent in the city. I haven't Covelo brings us the latest from city and our country in lockdown quarantine. The word does not have a nice ring to it nor should it. It's derived from quitting Tina which in the Venetian dialect means forty days when the blake struck medieval Europe. The Lagoon city kept arriving ships at bay for forty days to ensure passengers weren't infected today in Milan. We too are under quarantine and once again. It is the fight against an invisible enemy. This twenty-first-century quarantine isn't as draconian. But people are having to adapt at Maloka. Fe that quintessential Italian institution. It wasn't business as usual. A few regulars were dispersed among tables at Bien. Off Radio Brothers run. The establishment reminded people not to drink their expressive at the bar and to keep their distance. Lettuce restrictions introduced this week. I mean this ritual to is on hold. As most commercial activity has been shut down. The unseasonably warm weather would normally see people out in droves in the parks and Piazza's but now authorities have asked everyone to limit their movements outings getting the basic essentials including a trip to the news kiosk a key fixture of Italian city life. The printed word though is enjoying a mini renaissance and radio stations are making hours of children's stories available to listen to museums which Italy has plenty organizing virtual tours and web based lectures culture in the city. It seems hasn't been forgotten. The bill pay as Richard Statement of foods. The envy of the outside world is still very much attainable. Many stretch their legs with stole to the grocery store. Trolley IANTO MASKELL MOUTH ANNOUNCEMENTS. Remind shoppers to stay away from each other as they reach for that bottle of red wine some Parmesan original. And why not some freshest shooter back at home? Balconies are getting more attention as residents catch a bit of Sun or Snooze on the patio courtyards. Many filled with greenery become impromptu. Playgrounds for kids in need of fresh air families. Rediscover the joys of sharing meals in a life less rushed over lunch. Those who've seen many a winter recall the hardships faced by the MILANESI during the war. The bombardments the running to the shelter. Today's inconveniences are limited to worry about the speed of one's Wifi so as quarantines go things could a lot worse Ivan Kavala there reporting from land now to Hong Kong where disruption to normal life stretches back well before the current health emergency pro democracy protests grip the cities since early two thousand nineteen but have gone quiet recently due to the risk large gatherings pose to public health as we approach the one year anniversary of the first protest against the government's controversial extradition bill. Our Hong Kong Bureau chief. James Chambers sent us this report on how citizens are dealing with his brand new form of disorder. Wake-up check my body temperature and then read the government's Daily press release about local corona virus cases. After that it's make a fruit smoothie and check the latest travel restrictions. So I can keep track where I can and cannot fly to for work. That's basically how my daily routine is begun over. The last six weeks as life in Hong Kong has gone from living with Pro Democracy. Protests to with antibacterial hand sanitizer transition. Hit home for me in late January. When I recorded a radio interview with the activist Joshua Wong he'd come into the Bureau and Wen-chong to discuss his new book about the Suppression of Freedom of speech and spent the whole conversation. Muffled Bicycle Face Mosque. Almost everyone is wearing a mosque. Here and I managed to find my own overpriced PAC ten in a dodgy shopping Causeway Bay ever since then I've been carrying round in my bag and had to wear one only once. It was the only way of getting admitted into a local cinema. Now that it's March. We ourselves chatting in the office about protective goggles and small particles rather than tear gas petrol bombs and after a long day spent drying up my palms with Alcohol Gel. My new routine ends back at home with scrubbing my phone with wet wipes sipping several mugs of lemon ginger and honey and then seeing where. Hong Kong is placed on the Krona Vars leaderboard. I always read the news. Of course the aspect is not changed. My Vitamin C. intake gone through the roof and citrus fruits currently have their own compartments in my frigid home. Trying to stay healthy become a strategic necessity in Hong Kong as the last thing in once right now is a see Dr ore to coffee in public. I almost choked myself to death in a supermarket Q. By trying to suppress a little tickle in my throat every tiny sniffle invites questioning looks from the mosque covered crowd and contributes to collective paranoia. But that being said ever in. Hong Kong should be commended for keeping a LID ON IT. Anxiety is not spilled over into aggression and people have just kept that distance on the streets and on public transport although curiously not in restaurants where most health and safety precautions seem to go out the window for the duration of spicy noodles. I currently have an added incentive to eat healthier because it become far more difficult to exercise or the swimming pool squash courts and even the outdoor sports pitches have been closed as a result. Mean my misfiring. Footy have not played a Saturday league for seemingly ages and the lovely hiking trails in Hong Kong become unusually crowded personally speaking the one positive development to come out of all. This is that often living in his fitness craze city. For almost six years I've finally gotten around to doing my first ever yoga session and a week later. Went back for a second go now. Doing downward dogs may not become a full time. Part of my exercise routine at least be a little bit more flexible when I report back for football duty. I'll be unfit a little bit out of shape. The scariest bit about the virus was the panic buying but fortunately in Hong Kong. The fears and rumors of food shortage only lasted for a week. And a citywide run on Rice. Didn't spill over to other aisles of the supermarket or even to other carbohydrates at the same time as the shelves are being stripped bare of Thai jasmine rice and Indian buzz. Mattie there are always bags and bags of pasta sitting on a neighboring shelf I also got really lucky with a toilet roll because I pulled a twelve pack just before the Internet rumors started to circulate. A friend of mine was not so fortunate even working from home for a while and had to make an emergency trip into the office to borrow some of that stationery supplies from the bathroom. It's holly end of day scenario but the reality of living in Hong Kong right now is more one of inconvenience and boredom rather than fighting for survival little over one hundred cases in a well-stocked well-developed city of over seven million people is nothing when compared to the population of Wuhan or any of the major cities in mainland China which went into proper quarantine. Plenty of friends across. The border have been confined at home for weeks on end. Each household was only allowed to send out one person to get supplies once every three days and going outside without a mosque was practically criminal offense for us in Hong Kong. The Corona virus has taken its toll because of what came before it. This city was already tired and fractured. After six months of anti-government protests in the last six weeks has added extra strain. An extra exhaustion lost you. No one knew how the protests would end but absolutely no one would have wished for the Krona Vars to come along clear the streets. Everyone in Hong Kong wants his health crisis to be over as soon as possible even if it means the protests have to return James Chambers that reporting from Hong Kong the way in which a city is shaped often shows the scars of epidemics. Podcast London has stories of plagues in pandemics quite literally buried beneath its foundations and the impact on the city's population was immense joining me. Now it's give our current outbreak a bit of perspective and tell me more about how plague shape the city on the Thames. Is Vanessa harding professor of London history at Birkbeck University? Tell me when we look back at the plagues the several plays struck the UK in London. How was courting used during that time? It tends to be pretty reactive so when somebody has been identified as having the plague their houses shut up rather than thinking about shutting up neighborhoods a whole towns. At least that's the way it is in in England in Britain. They do things like saying they shouldn't be movement. People shouldn't move from one town to another without a passport. Saying that the healthy and that they do quarantine ships coming into London but they don't lock off whole cities now. What's interesting about what you've done is that you realize the people had quite low of information at this time. The actually we imagine that people were were literally in the dark not knowing what was going on but there were these these weekly. Bulletins put out telling people about the number of deaths in about the spread of disease. Could you tell us about that? How people were getting information well for quite a long time. From the late sixteenth century right through to the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries there is a weekly bill of mortality which announces how many people have died overall in each parish and how many deaths of being a plague they're printed and distributed by the early seventeenth century and people come to depend on them very much for really what seems like quite current information about what's going on so for example if you read his diary for sixteen sixty five every week it comes out. He usually has something to say you know. I saw the weekly bill or the figures in the weekly bill have changed. They've gone up. They've gone down. People say that the bills about come out. It'll be higher than last week. So you get the sense of people really having my finger on the pulse of the epidemic and looking in a quite an interesting and knowledgeable. Way At what? It's telling them almost their version of rolling news and when these bills came out did they have an impact on how people felt about what they should do. Did they cause panic or did they course calmed you? Think were they use pieces of information to gather you as you said about peeps university. He kinda reddish knowing what the numbers were in gangs information where they seen as a way of keeping the situation. Calm and it also. I think they're very important to the whole crisis management thing. I mean obviously you could say telling people how many people are dying. Might be a bad idea but actually people have got so used to receiving through the quiet years as well as through the plague is that I think that any interruption to the collection and distribution of data would be a very bad idea. It's hard to say what they're getting reassurance or just at least feeling well. I know what's going on. I mean it's clear for example that peeps actually gets news even of what's going on in his own parish from the bills so he says the play has come into our parish in the first week in which such death is reported and he wouldn't otherwise have heard of that so I think it's not just about what's going on in the city is about what's going on in your own neighborhood and that it should then at least allow you to understand the bigger framework of what's going on now. I was very interesting lecture. You've done talking about this notion of the plague and pointing out the POPs in later years we've tried to I don explanations of what happened. Then that don't quite true. I I think you you. Cool yourself a plague skeptic about the information and our constructs around the plague. Could you tell us why you've come up with that term? It's fascinating term. Well I think the thing is that for about a century there was a fairly dogmatic approach to what the historic plagues were based on the new understanding. People had of bubonic plague the third pandemic in Asia and East Asia in the late. Nineteen thirty twentieth century and came to be they understood for the first time about the plague. Bacillus Yersinia pestis and they constructed a very clear pathway for the transmission of that through rats rat fleas and rat fleas biting humans and then being transferred back to rats rat fleas and that picture was then applied. I think a bit uncritically to the historical plagues and sort of extending stretching the understanding of the disease to say well we know is playing. Can We know? Plague is spread like this so if they say this about it maybe they were wrong or we have to understand how rats were moving and I think after bid people came to realize that was really beginning to obscure are clear perception of what was going on and that it's better to go back to the sources and see well. What did people say they were suffering from? What did they say about symptoms? What can we detect about? Spread from weekly and monthly mortality. The pictures changed the course. I mean even since I think I gave that lecture in that has been an increasing number of excavations of urban burial grounds that have discovered yes. India pestis in the ancient DNA of the bodies. So I think we're not situation where we know that your senior pest is that is the plague. Bacillus was present. We're skeptical or I'm skeptical about rats and fleas and that people are looking for other explanations of how it might have spread and the most plausible argument at the moment is that it is being spread by human actor parasites lice rather than fleas. Now there's obviously a long way to go with every new explanation but that is at least a start for looking again at the historical evidence and thinking about okay well if it was lice. What does that tell us about how people lived or how they might have spread it within households and so on what was the death rate for something like the plague again you. You begin to look at history. Some numbers seem extraordinary amount of people who died and as you point out the various plagues across the centuries. But how lethal was the plague? It seems to be in pretty bad. I mean it's very hard to work out a case fatality rate. I mean just as it is now because we don't know where the people were infected but resisted it completely and had no symptoms and no real illness so we tend to know numbers of those who died and some information about others who were infected and came through it but it could be that the case retaliatory rate was as high as seventy five percent or more. The if you got it you were very lucky. Indeed to die which is so completely different from where we are now. One hundred thousand people died in the year. Sixteen sixty five and probably three quarters of those are plague deaths and the total population of London at the time might be about four hundred and fifty thousand so maybe getting on for a fifth to a quarter of the population died if you're losing twenty percent of your population and also. Interestingly again in your work you've pointed out that people did have some understanding of some of the things that might be useful to do to contain cleanliness. They were aware that you should clean the streets and they felt the vagrants for example of stray animals. Outside the house wasn't a good idea. Did it bring in changes to of planning up and design? How the city was conceived? Even just losing that number of people did it changed anything about the city. In any of these plague years I would say it has very little effect on the physical city that there are no real changes in urban planning similar to the ones that you get example in relation to fire precautions the loss of large numbers of people brings in a very substantial migration from the countryside. But then that's happening every year so that London is always refilling and increasing. Its population with rural urban migration. So I suppose it accelerates that but it isn't first thing to make London a bigger city or more diverse city. I think what it probably does have an impact on is local government and the way in which they think about managing the poor and managing the demands on their resources so for example in the first outbreaks in Italy when some of the towns in Lombardy were shut down and there was a a red zone declared and people told not to leave the houses and the provision would be brought them for example. Do you think the where we're still using. Some of the very similar tools to control the spread of this virus. It sounds like it. Yes seventy talking about. Containment is very similar to what they were thinking of in the early modern period the way. They're talking now about flattening the curve or slowing down the infection rate. I think is not something people were thinking of at the time they were simply thinking. Can we prevent it from spreading? Can we prevent more people from getting it? Not Can we spread it out so that we can manage it? Better professor harding. Thank you so much for joining me here. On the urban Est. So it's clear that the shape of acid is is influenced heavily by these major domestics. But how will? The current crisis impact are urban areas in the future and other new lessons emerging from this particular outbreak that we will need to implement as we continue to build and develop lung joined now by Kailua. Kuta is the director of the Connected Cities Lab the University of Melbourne mccully. Thank you for joining me when we look at this story. Is it an urban story as countryside story? How do you see this absolutely urban story and to be frank probably should be speaking doers? Kyle a York University or Neo Brenner University of Chicago and they were. It's a suburban and planetary story. It isn't a CD story. Like with altar of Sarsam. There was much store of global CDs connected to each other and the sort of virus traveling between the CDs. I think the store of Germany's very telling because the connection between Germany and China is a suburban Peri urban connection it's the outskirts of hun in a car manufacturing plants on the outskirts of Bavaria around Munich in its suburban connection but global connection that its really telling end that people don't quite expect because they have this sort of global CD machination the topic of density and and how close we all live with each other. Has You know front of mind. People think it's a good thing. How do we improve the density of asses but when something like this comes along? Does that throw up? A few question marks for people such as yourselves. How do we then managed density when something like this goes wrong when we're asking people to isolate themselves to pull back from other people absolutely and it's a very sort of exist question moment for anyone that peaches planning or urban design architecture because you are ingrained to think density is the modus operandi? It's the way. Cds have become CDs and desirable from a sustainability perspective. And you confronted with epidemic or pandemic Sir and the need for social distancing. I think the store is slightly more nuanced. The density itself isn't the problem. I think it's the question of managing the density and it's very telling to. There was a Radi Rai to plenty of writing on this. For instance at the time of two thousand and one so we're going back at the beginning of the two thousands or at the time of a bowl two thousand fourteen sixteen where the conversation was. How do you manage Ino- about what happens in that kind of density when there are a global crisis that not just of an environmental matter? We're still learning a lot about covered. Nineteen but you give the examples of other pandemics epidemics that we've had to respond to other lessons from those for cities for example how we can control it spread things. We should be considering at this moment. Do you think anyone at works. On Global Health for an urban issues would probably tell you that every time one of these happens There is some kind of lesson that at least in the global health community gets to a degree internalized. That doesn't quite trickle down to old ABA sectors but say for instance SARS told us about the fact that global CD's Martha and epidemics can become global challenges. And then if you fast forward for instance Ebola tour a lot about the fact that we were completely discounting the global south and the developing countries and what happens in this sort of circumstances in your seat in recent. Us moves you start pointing fingers at developing nations including their virus. But I think one very interesting thing that comes out of Ebola dot colleagues in Sierra Leone the Urban Research Center. I've been screaming about a very few have noticed that is the question how you manage this. In semi urban period on any informal settlements. We haven't even touched element of the conversation. Because we're talking about Milan and so forth. But how do you manage this e feed actually start happening in say my formalized urban settings? Well that's a very interesting for a few reasons. I guess first of all the availability of testing becomes very complicated because we already know that testing sets in the summer as developed as A. Us have been slow to be made available. It's a complicated process testing people. You don't want people in close quarters with each other but then even when you come to the most basic things when we hear the advice is US lots of soap and wash your hands onto hot running water. Many of these informal settlements lack those amenities. So do you think the the debate that we're having at the moment is being dominated by the global north of the wealthiest? It is rather than US thinking. Okay what do we now do to make? Sure that this epidemic. This doesn't go undetected in these places as well absolutely and if anything we have paradoxically learned so little from nineteen eighteen and something that affected twenty seven percent of the population back there and the major lesson there was. It's a virus doesn't care about business class or economic affairs that he doesn't care about to board or a wool. Any doesn't care about your socioeconomic status or Geo location in a city so one of the things that we're still doing is in many cases. This is told from their northern perspective. For instance if you take the example testing but also the example data collection it. There's plenty of really solid examples. Slum dwellers internationals have done phenomenal work in mopping understanding in telling the story of informal settlements from an informal settlement perspective and equally again early on. They told us very clearly that quarantines simply don't work in contexts like that so we need to rethink and we need to do it now before it actually starts happening. I don't want to come to many conclusions now. This is a fast moving situation. Every morning we wake up. The News has changed. But do you think already? There are things that cities and city managers and business will begin to think about how we protect ourselves. If this happens again in another five years or in another ten years time yes and I think one of the things is interesting. Colleagues for instance like show Larkham at Cambridge argued this on climate heatwaves strikes on the London Tube. We should probably be putting in place the capacity to learn during the crisis in a sense and one of the things you can learn from. This is the importance of the digital world beyond sort of the fads of the smart. Cd In the Fadzil's let us marked promises. It's very tangible. Things like the incredible work that daytime emergency services have put in place with Geo located publicly available transparent information for the everyday person to have tangible information. Same thing that happened in Korea for it since and you would hope that those were already learned in the crisis and he builds a greater set of appetite for that kind of digital experiment in Digital Revolution Services and information on the nation front on the public facing part of that. You know we live in a time when it's very easy to spread information by good and bad but hey you would have thought that would been the ability to get the message out to people to have done more things to impact the spread of the virus. Are you surprised that this virus has a life of Zone? The at the moment the spread of digital positive information hasn't been able to impact not heavily surprised in the sense that if you think about some digital infrastructure behind not the CDs but society in general. It's a double edged sword. Right that in reality didn't everything that we can say of. Good that can come from. This is balanced with the capacity for misinformation for spread of remorse for confronted. Racism may not the forms of discrimination that are driven by the online community so to say so. I think I'm not particularly surprised. I think would possibly really telling as a positive story is that in context. Even crisis-ridden context Hong Kong got hit by this in not the most favourable moment the power of community coming together and supporting each other. Even by digital systems is really telling and it's really positive story you can get out of it. Did you're sort of relying on your neighbor? Even if it's a virtual neighbor indicated the loss you've looked at the impact of other viruses of other epidemics on urban environments. And how they play out you know trying to give people false hope here but the strange thing is we do our best to control them we try and find ways of tracing the viruses but somehow they seem to play themselves out in ways that we still don't quite understand is your sense of looking at previous examples impact on cities that this will suddenly get to the point where the number just going down partly because of measures taken by urban centers but partly. Because we just don't understand how pharmacies work even now we do understand some of it again. Dinar complete novelties right. We were coalition till we renamed it a SARS like virus SARS virus. So if you'll just do understand the mechanics of it. So for instance the whole competition. That is getting quite popular even social media about Diego flattening the curb delaying the peak of the outbreak. In a way so that the healthcare system can process the capacity even if it lasts longer is functioning and you have positive stories already. I think the one thing to remember is these things. Don't disappear in a moment and these things can come back. Which is the story of? Bala just seem to disappear in two thousand sixteen. There's been recurring cases of it too and the head been cases before so it's probably not so much that we don't expect it and we don't know what it is. We just need to keep watch on it. Which is sort of my bittersweet joke of saying if you work in this sort of environment you get cold upon periodically in outbursts and I think we need a bit more regular conversation about this more regular attention to this Michaela Liuqiu director of the Connected Cities Lab the University of Melbourne. And thank you for joining us. And that's what we have. For this edition of the Urban Est. Today's episode was produced by colors. Rabelo and David Stevens and David also edited the show and play you out of this week's episode. His atlas sound with quarantined. Thank you for listening city lovers.
329: How Do You Become Okay With Letting Go?
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So we got some quoted quotes some cues Q's. What's yours my quote, unquote? Yep. It's I'm reading this book called come as you are. And it's actually a women's sexuality book. Well, yeah, it's really good. Whoa. It's so good. You tell it's by the authors. Emily negate Nagorski, and this is a quote from her book that I really liked we know by now that there's no such thing as normal or rather that we're all normal or all made of the same parts as everyone else organized in a unique way. No, two alike. And like that. It's just the whole book is about how wrong normal Nevada way. Everybody just is organized differently. So what does that have to do with women's sexuality so much? It's all about it. Like why the difference between men and women and stress and how we handle things differently. It's really interesting. I've only on page forty but still oh my God. That's a whole other podcast to like do you ever listen or I think we if we listen to us proud together. I think a stair Parral at Lewis house. Yeah. That's a crazy. She is like got so much wisdom. If you guys have not heard of her you can Google her Ted talk, but it talks about how like connection intimacy kind of crushes sexual intimacy. Yeah. But for the two different reasons why. And it's just so interesting because I think a lot of different people struggle with at especially as women are really getting become. Being super empowered and they're becoming business people, and they have been business people for a really long time. But but even more so in how that can affect us. And I think the more just like with anything the more self-awareness, we have the more books. We can read the more. We can understand that we are so much alike. And also talk about it with our partners and with our men so that they can be fully aware of what's going on in our emotional world as well. Because I think so often, you know, different people express love in different ways, and for minutes usually way more physical than women and a lot of times. We're like oh, hell, no. I am tired in stress. Yeah. Do not Tuttle ring says right now prince says does not want to be. It's all about that. It's all about it. It's so interesting is. Yeah, it's crazy. It's anti if prince has wanted to be touched all the time. Here's the thing. The world would be overpopulated. I that's my. That's my. Prince says don't have time for that. Got no time for that. All right. All right. So I think we've solved of yet more problems. All right. So I love that quote. I'm gonna read you my quote, there's three I told you that. Yep. Told you prepare yourself. All right there on the same thing. It's all about detachment and Google this because I wanted quotes on detachment from just your identity in general because they think that if we're truly going to show up as the person become the person that we are meant to be in this lifetime that you have to let go of all of the ideas that you think about yourself. Oh, yes. Yeah. Like print says might need to let go of how she thinks. She is to become what she thinks. She is. Oh, that's a good one because she may not even be that. She may be that way because of aunt Princess. Yeah. We're Princess print says you don't even know. All right. Number one. Okay. Well, this is from oh, I cannot pronounce this. But I'm going to try. Okay. L alley eb-in ABI Talib. I think I did. Okay. I think you did a good job. Actually. That's how made me on. Really smart Elliott finesse ABI Talib. Okay. Detachment is not that you should own nothing. But that nothing should own you. What do you think Princess? I love it. I love it. Nothing should own. You know, that's amazing in sometimes we get something that we think defines us so much that we're like who would we be without it? Yep. Or someone. Yes. So true. When prince says gets that prints in his like, I'm not a Princess without my prince, and all of a sudden, you're like, oh, my God, you still are you still? Are you still got your crown? Yeah. You're here. Judy don't have to be your Jasim prints, your jasmine, no matter what even if the rug is gone. You don't need that rug jazz. You need that lamp. No, you don't. It's number two two detachment. Doesn't mean I'm trying less hard. It just means that fears and emotions that used to torment in paralyze me no longer have the same power over me. So detachment doesn't mean I'm trying less hard. It just means the fears and emotions that used to torment in paralyze me, no longer have the same power over me, Kelly, cultural, and I've got one more that one was that one was like six. Six out of ten. Yeah. I felt like I had to think about it. Okay. I I didn't. Apparently, I liked it at first. All right, number nine two detached from needing to have things work out a certain way, the universe is perfect. And there are no failures give yourself the gift of detaching from your worries and trust that everything is happening perfectly. Anonymous, so many people are named anonymous. Yeah. Who is this anonymous person, I don't know. It's like Socrates what I liked what they said. I really did do you know where I could find a book by anonymous because I love all their quotes. I have a ton of their quotes collected. I was just wondering where book. Get a tattoo on my arm. That's like who set by oats by anonymous. Been trying to find a book. But no Canley pro was probably just thousands of years ago. So it was probably written on wall. Yeah. So everything's temporary. Yup. Forever. I heard a quote it was like forever. Everything is temporary. Just like forever in ever everything is temporary. That's so trail constantly remember, I am tongue. Christening try dre. I think I think it's literally only because I've been talking like waffles so much that I'm. Mm. Yeah. Like, sometimes you shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. But you should do. I great keep going. I agree. Let's keep going. Okay. Do we have a question from a beautiful listener because. Yes, thank God for them. Well, I got one for you from at Mallory dot Lynn dot zero. She asked how do you find balance between privacy and self disclosure? I think we found a little balance in the beginning because I wasn't about to tear into your sex life on there. But thank you for that. Hey, mom. It's going down the road. Mom, Joe scouting. But that's exactly it like for real like, I'm gonna go to an edge. That's maybe uncomfortable. But also says that I'm just like you or that we're just like you. And because I want to go to the edge of relate ability. So in any story in anything that you're sharing us enough of the story that says, I actually do truly get you. I actually may really struggle with this. This is actually a big thing in my life. But I don't need to disclose details or pulse. Someone in who doesn't need to be in unless you've agreed to those terms. So if you've agreed to terms with people in your life that you're like, whatever you talk to me about that shit is going on my guest. So be careful like I might start wearing a tee shirt like that. But. No. That's not true. Because you went hold secrets will not. Yeah. Great smelly. Do you go around holding seek less? What's in my right hand in what's my left hand that is? Bango suit grants just a bag on it. Yeah. That's what I meant. Right. If one of your close friends confided in you, you wouldn't bring that on here. No, of course, not in. So that's really huge to his that. There's many conversations that I know I could teach really well from would make awesome podcast, but I would never dream of it. I wouldn't it's not even a thing because you have to know what is valuable in your life to you. And that trust in those conversations are the most valuable thing to me and also trust with my spouse and not ever making him feel embarrassed. And I'm sure I've said stuff that has. But those are also open conversations of like, yeah. Hey when you brought that up I almost punched in the shin. Donkey bag the donkey back. Yeah. In your purse. In your satchel. You just don't know. What that is. It could be under the elbow. Yeah. That's your weenies await. You know that part on your elbow the weird skin. That's really your weenies. It is. It is Google it. I'm telling you right now. Punch you in the Wenas this episode. Just got what's the x rating? Already do explicit on these. Okay, because sometimes use wear never know. Wean as Don you, your listeners know, I can't wait. She use that word. I wanna make T shirts, but that point to the elbow. That's like something about it. I I'm here winus. It's that stretch. He's game. Have you talked to your kids yet about their Weena? And if not here's where it is here to check it. So when wrestlers are doing that one move with the elbow when they smack the bottom of their elbow, and then they smack it onto the person's face are. They technically smacking their Wenas. And then smoking the first in the face with their we know, you know, I guess you did bring it there. And I think it's true. I think everything he said is accurate. But there I don't know if it's so much the skin. I don't know. I you need to Google awareness for me while you find me another question as well. So I can change the whole topic. Okay. Question number two from at baby steps for big results. We assume our closest circle should be the most supportive, but it doesn't always work that way. What did you find the most valuable through the transition of becoming who you are now? Okay. So you, and I heard an awesome quote this weekend from Chris king who this question got. So at Christmas mastermind this weekend a question this. Question got asked right. Like in. This is the question that always gets asked of two thousand nineteen and of thirty two BC. Yeah. He's like an every year in between. It's the question of the apostles were like Jesus, what do I do if my family doesn't support this message, and he was like speak to everyone. Yeah. Till the until everyone is moved. And then your family will be like, hey, you must be on to something. Wow. I mean, I don't know if actually it's kind of true. Yeah. That's a good. Hey, I come from a religious family. You know, what you're talking about? I do. And even though I wasn't on the mount of olives. I like olives. So. You know, I don't like all black lacquer green tomato all of all of them. Just not interested. Oh, really not. Oh love anyway back to. Oh. So what would it Chris king say he said? Let me read this first, friends and family won't support you until strangers. Celebrate you now that was I sure we were like everyone in the room was just like, of course, because yes, how it is played out for all of us for anyone who's done something that's outside of your family's ideals or beliefs. So even if your family is like doing amazing big things, but maybe they've all been doctors. So then entrepreneur comes along. And is like you're doing amazing things. This is incredible. You're breaking belief systems of people, you know, exceeding expectations except now I'm going to do something different. It's just about you're doing something different. So when you break that pattern. They obviously only don't support you because they don't think it will work. So they want you to be safe flayed. Don't ask you to fill. Now that is not always the case when people are like can't wait to see my brother fail. But and that's not very nice. That's not cool either. Yeah. But that's fueled further fire. Yes. It is their ego. But that is when you really have to realize that you have to just stick to your pass because of venture there are gonna be strangers who are thinking you and being so grateful in your family and friends are going to see this. And they're going to be like, wow, something must be working. Like these other people are really like using this person's advice or they have to give. So they start to listen, the thing is they just can't hear you. They can't like get the information from you because they're not viewing you in that light yet. Because to you. You're still know little Mary little TIMMY. Yeah. Throwing like eating like eating, you know like dog poop played though. Yeah. I'm an Plato plate. I never ate dog. Poop. I've been I did think we both. It's okay. We were like. We survived. We're fine. Well, it's a good answer. Did I fully answer that? Yeah. What was the full question? The full question is what did you find the most valuable through the transition and becoming who you are now? Oh, a literally. So creating my own like hanging out with other people who were on that path. So that when I did default into my own like, insecurities and fears when I would share it or talk about it. I would then have the people whose you know, like they they were there to lift me up first and only listen to positive things in don't go back to your family that doesn't believe in you when you're down. Yes. They're just going to be like saying says why you need to go back into chiropractics. And even if you are a chiropractor. That's awesome. That was an example. Right. I love me. A good adjustment me to own man. Feels so good like I get addicted. I'm like, can you crack me? Yeah. I've never been cracked. But I want to be cracked all man, will you're not you're not you can get crack and I want. Today, you should and tenue speaking of cracking into try. Yes. Speaking of crack. Yes. Whereabouts to crack, you wide open with this question. I'm ready. It's from hat. Caitlyn Hawkins Lamberti over. But she awesome. How do you become okay? With letting go. All right. We're going to picture. What is Kate letting gov? Maybe she's letting go over a relationship. Okay. So relationship a job a person a title anything? Right. But it old probably in old way of life. How do you get okay with letting go? So when she's asked me up, how do you do it? How do you do it? Okay. So it pic picture if you are holding onto like a rope on the side of a boat. Where this is going. All right. I'm pitcher self on the side of a big big cruise ship. Okay. And you see another lifeboat going by. Yeah. And the the ship you're holding onto is going down. It's no longer for you. Right. This lifeboat is like going to take you to safety in there. Yelling at you. And you know it because they're like we all did it too late. Yeah. Had to let go into safety. And we're going to like this is going to be the lifeboat to your next life. I promise you we've been here before this is what it looks like. So part of letting go is making sure people that you on the next phase that you're going to the you already. You're starting to set up your next lifeboat for where you're going. Oh, so as you are letting go this is what it's gonna feel like you're now around the people who are telling you, it's going to be okay. But they're also saying when you let go or before you let go it's gonna feel crazy your body's not going to want to let go you just you're gonna have to count to three and you're going to have to push. As hard as you can offer this, and like lean back and know that there's a point where you don't know if you're gonna live or you're going to die, but you're gonna live because we've been there before I promise you, and when you land it's going to hurt, but you're going to recover, and then we're going to take you off to the next beautiful phase of your life. That's going to be even better than that ship that was already going down. So let that's what feels like that was awesome. And Caitlyn I hope you're ready to let go now like, oh, the Titanic. Caitlin Caitlin because your life lifeboat with beautiful Brazilian models is coming through and they're taking Brazil. It's going to be warm and lovely and it's going to be a potty. But a little scary at first. But then great then great. Yeah. So, but you're going to have that free fall. And you're not going to want to let go, and it's going to suck and you're gonna cry and you're going to think that you're going to die. Yeah. Yeah. That's for real even if you're letting over relationship or a job or anything, you're like everything doesn't want to because your whole mind is made for safety. So it's like don't like, oh, this is familiar. You don't know about the next thing. You're better holding onto the ship. That's going down and letting go even though the people in the lifeboat are just up there looking at you like unity like just go because except they've been there before so all they can do is yell too. So yeah, I like that metaphor. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I think you could really get cleaned up. I hope no one ever is on a ship that has to get on a lifeboat. But what if the lifeboat was going somewhere way better? You know, maybe I need to let go of that bad daydream. I think I think there's some work to be done there. There's some work there. And I'm letting go of it. I think that when we just need to get you on another cruise ship for seven days in a cabin with me that fun seven days and a cavern with. Trivia, trivia, irreverend area. Oh, if you haven't heard about that. I think it's somewhere. Yeah. Evans, and I were on a cruise ship together for seven days seven days and seven nights. I think eight nine seven eight nights because eight one nine Florida. Oh, yeah. Two nights in Florida. Do you know it was one of the most fun nights or days, the lab your life? What? Of my life the day. We're in Florida, and we went and saw that Mohegan rhapsody. Yes. Which is now like is it the number one movie in the number one actor it should because when I watched it. I did I say when I came I was like that's going to be like DIB movie of if it's not I'm I'm gonna talk to anybody. I think you did if not I'm going to talk to the crossing guard on Montana, and I'm gonna let her know it should have been I love her with their little has little red hair. My gosh, she would listen to me. She really would you know? She's amazing. She's she wears advisor yet. She has her book, and she sits energy, she's reading steamy. Romance novels. When the kids come. She's like Dag nab it. Tag nab. She probably house like a fake cover on it. Does. It's like a Grover. She's reading forty-seven shades of purple oh ways broker purple forty-seven sheets. Shades of seven shades of purple out this spring out this spring written by big bird. All right pig bird. Alot this podcast is X rated getting a lot of excess. Triple X, triple X and Sesame Street, yell eatings. Alright. So do we have another one? It was the last one though, it was the last one we did three people just brings out a science relief. It's over. Thank god. I got a little uncomfortable. There. Didn't know how many more Sesame Street analogies. We could have sorry everyone. All right Evans. I got an Alaska Q. Okay. What do you do like in your super stressful moments? Like when you wanna throw in the towel. First of all I want to hear the quick language in your head like when you have moments where you're just like like combustion in life. Whether it's relationships work, everything imploding, like just a lot of stress in. Then what do you do to like get start sorting it out? It was a bird that just by her psalm. What do I do? Okay. In my head. I say I can't take this anymore. Everything's falling. Martin I'm gonna die. Just casual like. You know, not dramatic. No. And then what I do is. I. Just fall apart for many. Yeah. And then after I my fall apart stage, you'll really helps your dog. Yeah. Having a dog really helps totally taken a walk movement. Always for me chocolate. Yup. For real. Sometimes you need it. Go walk and get a piece of chocolate don't like sit on your couch and eat a lot of chocolate that could get a little worse stack a lot worse because anonymous stomach ache because I've done that me too intern out bear, no, you'll get diarrhea. Neither do pint of ice cream start same outcome for do you do. Yeah. I I tend to cry like, I just feel it in that moment. And I'm like, what are you feeling? You're feeling crazy. And I let the crazy like wash over me in a moment of like wherever it can find. I try not to do that in public. I'll do like Aldo friends or even here sometimes real try like go and do it alone. So I can actually let it out. Yeah. If I'm here, I'll either go for a walk or sometimes I'll just go shower like sometimes like a shower will respect you when I'm like, I'm just it's almost like resetting the day for me, sometimes water yet here that from a lot of people like water can be really resetting. It's almost like rinsing it away energetically too. Because you guys we are. So like worse, so energetic that your energy can be measured from five feet like your heart energy can be measured from five feet outside of your chest. So I'm always like just washing whatever energy is like in your field away. Yeah. I feel it can really reset me. But always walking prayer. So. So a lot of times. I'll just start saying things out loud. Like, the prayer owned even make sense at first it's like, please God, I can't do this alone. Like, just take this. I'm so overwhelmed like just this is for you like, this is not you got this one's yours. You like I literally picture just like I'm tapping out. Not prayers always been like, my literally most powerful saying those things out loud wild doing those other things I agree. And I think I know when I get upset and call my mom, she's always it's always at night when I get more upset if you're honest like nightmare for shared. It's terrible. You have no willpower left. You're tired. You have like earrings. I you're just your willpower is down right like your normal. If you picture like a human like your battery pack on the back, it's like super low. So in those things take like a whole battery. Yeah. So if you don't have it you just kind of like. Di Di but. Yeah, that's just wash your face and go to bed. It is. It is sentenced start over tomorrow. Okay. You heard it here wash your face wash your face bash your face girl wash your holidays. Do you have a question for me? Yes. Q-q if you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability. What would it be? There's so many let me think the ability to not. Care. When chosen? Wait, you chose. When you didn't wanna care. Yeah. I get to choose when I don't wanna care like it's like if I have to go ask for something big press, the I don't care button. And I just go big and was just household. Yup. When I go to speak. It's just I don't care. This is going to be awesome. And just do whatever I want. If I want to like like someone says a mean comment, or I judge my body or a judge where a man like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. It's just like freedom. And you're like, yeah. It just to not feel attached to the very human side of carrying while. I think that keeps me rather grounded. And I would no longer have a podcast, but I would be doing. No. But we know what to talk about. Maybe you could do a mental switch in your head. And being pressed pretender press in the I don't care button like the easy button, and the staple very similar except it says, I don't care on it. And it's pink. Can we make a button like that God casts when I taught you just hit it? I don't care. I don't care. But that's powerful. Just those words like I might adopt that like, I don't care. Yeah. I don't care. I don't right. Do you? Do you need to do on that note? This is your permission to not care as much. Exactly, nobody else does just let it go. God we're all consume. Let it go. 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Wichita Life Podcast #15 - Steven Werner
"Do not think that someone is GonNa. Show up and help you with your problems. You've got to roll your sleeves up. Get dirty and put the work in otherwise. You'll just be the person five years from. I said I had that idea. welcome component episode of the PODCAST. My name is Leeann. Today's guest is Stephen Werner Stephen is the founder and CEO of Lawn Buddy which has been called the Uber for lawn care. Lamberti is not only one of the hottest startups in Wichita but one of the hottest startup companies in the world we talk about Stevens background his path from the Marines to start his own companies and much more pleasing aroma conversation with Stephen Werner are at I'm here Stephen Werner doing doing good Harburg south doing pretty well. Can you just tell a little bit about yourself yes so I was born and raised in a small town in Wyoming Place Kim roaming. We have no stop stoplight. Stop signs only one. Itty bitty movie theater and the biggest claim to fame was. JC Penney's started there. That's pretty bad I correct. Nobody knows that it's there the grew up in a small ranch outside of town so I wasn't even a citizen of Camera Wyoming the county but grew up there went to high school they are in listed in the Marine Corps my junior year in high school and then shipped off. I'm for BOOT camp right after I graduated so no real time to have fun or or straight straight to business but it was a good time was in the military for for several years best run all over the place that a combat deployment to Afghanistan and back after the military was done I'd say two thousand thirteen I got out and was very fortunate in the fact that I got a job doing structural project management management for firm mind there where I kinda cut my teeth on on management projects all the stuff you're familiar with so the when I was there I met my beautiful wife. WHO's electrical engineer sparks did fly nothing caught on fire them something to be said for Sparky sparky but so after that we decided to kind of broaden our horizons we both put applications and other places coke industries a swooped in and and snagged her up real quick. I think with two weeks is when she she got the job offer. They offered it to her on the spot which doesn't really happen now. It doesn't I've been through that process processes. It can be grueling and so anyways we we moved to Wichita Kansas and I thought you know I'm just GonNa go and use all my experience and my veteran background and we get a job doing exactly what I was doing before which too had other plans thankfully I couldn't find anything ended up working armed security already at a spirit for a number of months and realized that wasn't very fun being glorified gate guard especially working night shift so decided to jump back into school in the paper. Is that important. I'd go and get it. We've talked a little bit briefly before this. I was interested in pursuing a structural engineering degree. W only offered a mechanical engineering degree. Ah Thermo is not fun. No Fun at all you can take that and so decided to go into entrepreneurship. I'd always wanted to start business. I've started several smaller businesses before they're kind of one off. Deals decided to pursue that lasted two semesters before Lamberti started and we're sitting here today so awesome. I'm sorry it is backing up just a little bit so you joined the Marines. You Always WanNa join the services or is that something you just picked up in high school. So since my freshman year in high school who I had I had wanted to join the military did a lot of research the only recruiters that would call me back and even entertain a conversation with freshman of that time was the Marine Corps and and research into that find out to find out that they were the the best and the brightest even though everyone else will disagree with us but we have the best education so we know we're talking about. enlisted my junior year in high school yeah miracle he asks can ask why the Marines but so so the it was the longest the most challenging boot camp that I could find and you're a rifleman. I in your job came second and that really Kinda appealed to me and decided to focus on that nice very cool. Thank you for your service by the way that's awesome. That's really cool and so you mentioned you started a couple of small smaller businesses or one off. What kind of stuff is that here. Qatar back home in Wyoming both so right before Sonya my wife and I moved here. We were getting ready to open up a called a looking back as always kind of what was I thinking but it was called. SMS tactical solutions that we were open up in Wyoming tour we were filing for NFL and then do firearms training so that not a lot of people know about that but when we moved back here we decided to dissolve that company and there were I mean thunderbird who just opened with right here and then range all the different ranges and training facility a couple of different places around the the market was kind of diluted for share something like that ended up working for are for one of them for a while but then what I was going to wishaw stay it opened up a brass reselling business around picking up once fire range brass recycling it reloaded which was kind of more of a a time filler for me really than a a business venture and there was one other one. I can't remember what it was. That's how yeah how interesting kind. They went through the process of starting. NLC on all of them are going through the kind of filing your articles and going through a lot. Oh that basic staff early on and then obviously when I was in which state for entrepreneurship you learn about a lot of that so I had a little bit of an advantage. There's there but nothing too huge during the day 'cause definitely different so between just studying it and then going through and actually doing it so so he planted the seeds for what could have been somebody then so talk a little bit about long buddy and what that is yes do laundry started really in two thousand fifteen. We were doing customer customer validation around that. Everyone thinks that I making up a story when I when I say this but it was really started from me wanting a better better solution for someone to cut the grass. I was working fulltime at that point. Studying full-time going to wichita state and grass grows really fast here. It does especially in the spring when it's raining today but so I had a lot of my plate and when I got home to grass was overgrown and I was I was just learning what honey do list were in. My wife had kindly reminded me several times throughout that week to to cut the grass and I could hear voice in my head and said you know there's there. There needs to be a solution for this persona. Come out Mo- at one. I'm not worried about the neighbor kid getting hurt and there wasn't at that time and so when my wife got home we sat down and we created a business model around it. I didn't cut the grass but we created a business. Yeah my wife came on originally to help build everything with us. No we entered into several competitions and built it from there. I met my to go founder Business Partner Phil Matthew who helped us kind of bring this this to reality and we launched in the I guess it was the winner of two thousand sixteen with the Lawn Buddy on-demand mobile lap we did snow removal of first of all things and I firmly believe that US releasing that technology is why it didn't snow in Wichita missile the next spring we had the on-demand technology we launched in Wichita grew outside of Wichita and several other places but then at the end of it. You'll appreciate this. There was some things that weren't necessarily working and so I sat down to a root cause analysis to find out what is causing this it to happen and one of the results came from that was that realizing that the men and women who were actually mowing the grass loved it because they they had had no access to this type of technology and they could get paid within twenty four to forty eight hours which is unheard of in this industry specifically. They have to generate an invoice leave it on their doorstep step. Wait for them to call and say the check is ready and then drive back down to pick it up. It ends up going way longer than net thirty so cashless a real struggle with these businesses and even with scheduling and and simple management tools most of them were doing a on a piece of paper that they keep in their truck so we saw a product market fit for the product we had developed and we were controlling ourselves internally and decided to develop lamberti pro which is the software as a service solution. I'm sure for them to manage their business. Better grow it and so we took it from there and built it and then we saw tremendous growth from that tour now we're in fifty states and we're about out to hit five thousand users on the platform today. Wow that's incredible. How many how many businesses that is or that's the businesses that are using Oh wow okay well and when I say users I I should say businesses and then so what about the user individual side. Do you have a the individual side ranges. A lot of them have employees. Some of them are so operators but the accounts is really what we track. Wow that's incredible. That's really cool so did you. You said Phil came. I'm on is the technical guy so when I had it. D- do you know how to code or anything like that or does your wife or my wife new C. Plus C. Sharp and I had just a limited understanding voting in the Marine Corps. I always leverage technology for solutions actually actually once not one but received awards for it but I had no in-depth experience on how to have code or anything like that so I it can be tough. So how did you find Phil. Did you through mutual friends or how did that come about. It was actually happenstance. I I guess you say I was starting around that time and they had a mentor lunch. Neither of US knew what it was or why we were there but we both found ourselves is in a back corner sure and several other entrepreneurs. Actually it's interesting. I'm Chris Callen was there he had started grit. If you're familiar earlier with that company and Miguel Johns who did king fit Trevor Crotts buddy brands and then fill was at the table as well and kind of explain on the product and I said I'm looking for a developer and at the time I was looking to contract it out but after sitting down and doing some negotiations spill our personalities really matched I'm kind of the optimist and he's more of a realist type of a deal I guess necessary. Yep and then we just took it and ran with him. Nice Nice and how did the when you first went in with how full blown was the ad at that point. Was it just like a a and also did you describe it as Uber for lawn care because I know a lot of different articles and stuff kind of described like that and it's a good way to wrap your head around what it is but how developed the idea at that point yeah so when I met Phil Yeah so the the idea that point we had one some competition student university so it was fairly developed as far as business model sure and how we would gain traction but it wasn't developed as far as far as technology. Gotcha N customer validation actually done customer validation. I mentioned in two thousand fifteen gene technology. Come the ultimate middleman homeowner would call in or contact me on a very horrible website that I built and than I would reach out to the lawn care providers that were kind of do your technology okay and I would feel their pain. I'm a huge believer in the bottom up method to where you need to know exactly what customers are struggling with to the point to where I was out mowing them several times or I was mowing clients properties issue so I know what their struggles are so that we build an actual solution and not just a band aid and so at that point in time when Phil came on we had that done and then in bill came in and helped pioneer the technology. was there any worry so you enter these competitions but don't necessarily have the technology just as website that you made. Is there or any worry that okay somebody's going to be like Oh. I like that idea. I'M GONNA go make technology real quick before they do. I is there any fear of that or so. Were initially there. was I mean they're always especially if it's your first time doing it but one thing that I realized early on is that I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as a novel novel idea so you're not the I think of it right to do it. Probably it's all about execution and so- hiding almost worse then the not right so customer validation is finding your potential customers that would pay you. If you don't have a paying customer you don't have a business yeah and so that's where we went through in those competitions were we were building those building blocks to start what we have now to. Where if you would ask me. That question didn't three or four years ago I would've probably said especially before the competition so it was a secret and you signed an NDA right right but now it's yes you can try yeah yeah. I think in college like being especially in engineering school. I think everybody thinks they have that idea or they see something that comes out example for Uber. I thought about that five years ago. It's like okay. It's an idea versus execution and so that's something I wanted wanted to bring up to. Is this your thoughts on. What's the value of an idea versus something else we we would get messages all the time on that. I thought of this five years ago fantastic tactic. You didn't do anything with it. There's a big big difference between having an idea executed executing an idea and that's where we kind of shine was proving that we could execute on a plan an idea and the Uber for lawn care to back up an answer that that original question rush you. I actually hated it but people kept drawing that connection and so it kind of stuck especially in the beginning for the homeowner facing side died as far as they could connect with homeowner and have lawn care at the press of a button sure to where even now people still will reference that aspect. It's not necessarily what we do. It's a very small aspect of our technology on but we're not the ones cutting grass. We're not the ones that the homeowners are not. Our customers merged the lawn care companies so yeah. That's not something that I would necessarily think about off the topic but I think when I heard about somebody was a couple years ago. Now I first time what other maybe probably when you wanNA competition honestly and I'm just like that's a cool idea but like I don't know if I would use it but just seeing what it's grown into seeing being. It's not just like you said for the customer but for the back end and how that's all that's pretty cool and that's our our sole focus now to where homeowners we we have we try tried to limit our interaction with them to just support longhair companies and when we we kind of pivoted to that we call it the Robin Hood Effect Right and so on the rich just to give the poor right and typically GIG economy. You have the technology company utilizing a contractor to generate profits where we put the essentially give that contract or the same tools technology company has to grow their business and then we take that investment in being their technology partner and then benefiting from their successor so getting to that is that how you guys make money you just take x percent of your transaction yeah so we we we get paid when the when our customers get paid and we also have a paid subscription one where they can unlock a little bit more tools but primarily our customer. Moore bases in what we call somebody light which is the transaction based model okay awesome so did you jump jump straight into it. Once you met failed you jump straight in. Was this what you're doing full-time or what was that process like by the time. I feel I had jumped in time. It was still attending a couple classes at which state that kind of fizzled out but the I left my job. maybe a month or two prior to two meeting. Phil and decided to focus on that full-time just based off the the positive feedback from the the idea idea and then also generating income from business model competitions like that so decided to make the leap it was it was I was fortunate in the fact that my my wife helps support that yeah and obviously had a very good job and benefits so I was very blessed in that aspect yeah that's helpful. That's really cool did did so from that lunch. re-met fell. There's autumn enters. There are a lot of other which based entrepreneurs how has that helped you think the outcome would have been different here had had you not had kind of that support group or was or support group moving forward from that group so there was a support group from then group of people that were at the table. I I mean trevor has been a personal friend of Mine and peer and mentor for for a long time if he listen to this and I call him a mentor. I'm never gonNA hear the end of the so from that that table there was a little bit of a support court system built in but from the university is really received a lot of support and then when the university partnered with E for launch prep and we we were the first inaugural company through that and so we were received support there but as far as the city or anything else like that yeah no not really even to this day that he doesn't necessarily support or no that we exist the the county does Sedgwick County they supported us and then we got several mentors ores from connections made in the in the city so mark Twain Line with the Worst University in their entrepreneurship department in Nancy Curson Awesome Brock they were there since day one helping us go through modeling and business model canvas and then that grew to broaden our network with other connections and and then through the e W partnership and their mentor pooled air and now I'm in a program called pipeline which is kind of a national OKLAHOM- deal. They focus on the mid West but with that those connections is just mind blowing yeah. I'm the amount of talent is in one room so that's awesome is there a specific civic part of the business that they help with as part of like pipeline for example yes so pipeline focuses on the CEO specific the executives in the founder and and helping to go through all the different strategies and It's really kind of like it's a family but it's a family. Emma educates you in how to be successful entrepreneur and also navigate lessons learned or or failure right and that's fantastic the support and the the network and the the knowledge that comes through that that program is nothing like I've ever seen before. That's really cool. Was it difficult when you brought Phil. On for example and you obviously don't have to get into details or anything but is it difficult to try to figure out instead of contracting it out to bring him in trying to split up the equity in the company or however that works this so luckily it wasn't necessarily that difficult we met several times before he came on board and several times to make sure it was the right fit and like I said our our personalities. Mesh really well and we were able to work together. I mean we've navigated over three years together to to where we are today. through ups and downs it's really easy to focus on the outs but no one necessarily sees the downs when you're in the office or on weekends putting in the work and the blood sweat and tears that go into but we've been able to navigate that pretty well. That's not the case for for everyone. I definitely think that based off of our our area finding a a CTO or technical co founder that has a background in the industry will be hard to find for that level doesn't mean it's impossible. It just means there'll be a little bit more due diligence on that yeah founders part if they don't have a technical background sure we're you set out to find somebody with that that experience like when you're across you kind of said it contract somebody out but here's looking for somebody that could coat it for you then so at the time. I was looking looking for someone to help come in and make an MVP. I would find gotta come in to help us. Grow makes sense. I'm where I was fortunate is that he was one of the only people who he he was. He had his own business he was doing it was just himself. Everything kind of aligned to where best possible scenario occurred heard for us and he was able to join the team cool very cool. Was it so kind of investment type side of things. Did you have many investors upfront or how did that. Process go yeah so we had a core group of investors come on really right before we launched watch the the MVP in the wintertime some great folks like Jeff Turner Aaron Bastion Jason Cox and Ben Hutton where some of I folks in came to to help support us in our idea which for helping move which along that's I mean that's and they're all Chubb as always all of our investors including new ones are all which is so the they've helped spur along technology right here in Wichita Kansas which not a lot of people people can say yeah. That's actually gained traction. Someone who yeah it's it's a very fortunate that they stepped up at the time of the. I'm glad to see those groups. I mean like that group and like you even starting lawn buddy here to see pushing in Wichita forward. A lot of people move away from Wichita to do something cool like this but there's a lot of people like you guys trying to do right here and Wichita when I look at it. It's it's almost like its own company right so it's going to go through ups and downs. We're GONNA purge talent but hopefully there's GonNa be some ups for us or you can retain it and continue to grow the environment and we're just here to keep our heads down and hopefully be value added to our our city where we can help a little part in pushing forward yeah for sure how has lawn. Betty volved besides from your website that you made to what it is today. What what do anything specific or specific lessons learned yeah so from the horrible. Go Daddy website that I built in two thousand fifteen. It was uh we've evolved a lot so we went from just being a single APP on West android tour. Now we have four APPs on Iowa's android. We have a a a a web portal for the providers to to run their their businesses tore. It's really evolved to a high technology company in the SAS arena and I mean we won top one hundred twenty five companies in the world by startup grind which is a Google Council credible and that was from right here in in in Wichita in the world so that's a recognition for us and something that we're we're really proud of and that's all due to this team that we have here as far as evolving employees went from villain I in a in a dungy attic to now we have about six employees and almost over eight contractors working for the company. Foale time so we're generating jobs right here in Wichita hour-long buddy but not only that providers that have used our technologies since the beginning are now hiring employees because they've two to three reacts our business so huge value add for our community there in the evolution of Blonde Buddy he ever sure and one of the things Islambad can do is like automatically calculates the lawn based on where the driveway is like how much dry takes up and that kind of thing automatic pricing was that something that kind of came later was up there from the beginning so that was actually there from the beginning so the automatic pricing came in to where we pull data from a couple different records to give a virtual virtual estimate almost instantly I actually there's instantly unless it falls outside of some of our parameters and then kicks out to a manual review but that was in there for since the beginning kind of evolved from that was being able to give the lawn care companies the ability to add their own prices and then have advanced danced estimating tools like but we had where they have satellite images that they can go and trace projects. They're doing whether they're installing a new garden or concrete or putting mulch and we we get 'em tool so that they can electronically calculate that and then senator customers very cool in how do you market this. I know because I mean it's like you said even in Wichita people even know about Lombady necessarily compared to the population everything. How do you mark that. I've been seeing stuff on facebook and some other things that was really awesome hard. You've been handling that. Yes Oh it's all strictly digital now so social media's a huge win for us Google ad words huge for us as well but then word of mouth. I always say that our best salesperson is a happy customer so that one happy customer is going to talk to their our friends about their experience with our software and how it helped their companies and that's been one of the ways that we've been able to grow our digital footprint is really kind of where we focus for marketing a lot of these men and women are living inside of forums or on facebook group yeah and with some of the tools we can really refine our audience since two where we can get our ads to display the right folks unless they follow our pages and you're going to solve our content but that's primarily how we get the word out. Do you have a specific perfect person or group of people that just focuses on that tech advertising marketing yes so our marketing advertising all actually outsource by our because some of our contractors that we have we have a gal in San Francisco Name Laura Jordan who does a fantastic job for us as far as ad placement placement and then strategic branding making sure that everything's the same and delivering to the right audience and then Jordan Cole Accord who sits right outside here she does all of our contact creation as far as design and then utilize a number of different agencies here in town for video or if you've seen the latest one it's me with a Gopro holding a Madison John Johnson who is a contractor for us who does all of our interviews and one of those today so it's a mixture of a lot of stuff but really we take the content turn over to Laura and then she just knocked oxygen out of the park very cool awesome. That's smart I mean you guys are tech companies so y y go outside of the digital realm. When you can reach everyone you need to. Yep So um and what is your goal. Do you have a gold this year or long-term like number of users. Zach type thing yeah so to give you an idea last year. We had a goal of reaching nine hundred users on the platform in years We did a little bit better than that so now going forward. I've had a goal for a while to where I would love to have fifteen thousand users on the platform by the end of the year and I think we're on the right track for that awesome especially with the the number of downloads origin activity on a platform and putting strategy behind that to have sustainable growth one things. I think a lot of people get caught up in is it's really exciting to see growth but it's also two sided two edged sword and to wear the the greatest way that you can or the fastest way you can fail as through rapid growth and so having that strategy behind that make sure that we're growing sustainably and we kind of put the cart before the horse is something that we're really focusing being on makes sense long-term. Is this something you see yourself being a part of or this team probably this team in the future or is it something something that you would look to sell down the road or is there any thought of that yes so when you look at technology companies. It's real if if you were to ask me this question and then five five years from now. I sit down and listen to my answer. It will probably be different but the we're going to run this company like we're. GonNa have it forever. Urban always prepared for opportunity so that you can continue to provide value to your customers and so we have gone buddy and if you go back through any of my old interviews this is kind of the proving ground forest approved at this model of sustainable to move into other industries sir and that's something that we're actively I'm not pursuing but we have on the table for expansion in the future so we're we're we made our team will get bigger but only wichita awesome. That's good to hear we're glad to have you. What are the challenges of started was that you've experienced -perienced starting a startup or specifically starting startup in Wichita. What are some of those broke so starting business in Wichita. is probably one of the easier things that if there's someone out there listening who's interested in starting a business to do simply because the cost of living living here so you can de risk a lot is maybe. Wyoming Wyoming is more expensive actually but so the when you look at it and you D risk your time investment your financial investment into it. You have almost the perfect environment to do that. depending on the business that you're going to start so starting a business here for us was relatively easy and actually actually accelerated some of the things that we were doing as far as me seeing when. Stephen Warner was sitting in class and I had this idea and then being surrounded by the community unity is supported to make sure that we can turn it into a reality that was fantastic and that support system is still here are so many different programs that go on to help nope with entrepreneurs or or up and coming business owners but as far as scaling company from here. It's been difficult at the Times for instance. When we watch the first bit of technology it was not well received but that's not which is fault. That's acted acted name a an APPs that has started in which Tom last ten years and so you're early. Adopters are going to be a little a lot less in our market versus like an Austin or someone who says a lot of new technology coming out but we're happy that we get to be pioneers on this path to the blaze a trail for others to come because because now which is still one of our largest markets as far as the brand loyalty NPR continuously using the platform new provider sign up so yeah that's been that's been fantastic so very cool. Is there any insurance on either side whether it's the user side or the business this side of it for for the people use the APP on either the business side or the customer side. Yes so Lomba obviously has business insure right right. We're at the point. Um We've been at the point for only time that we we need that. we actually offer insurance through the platform we don't but we did a strategic partnership with. I am a actually I'm working with another kind of supplemental insurance company as well to provide that to our users they don't they're not required are to use our insurance. we provided as an easy pass through for them to get better rates or getting contact with someone who is but as far as requirements we we don't have requirements. We just expect them to be professional. Business run their business like they should absolutely like. I said we we don't we don't go out and cut the grass and we're just in writing software to the folks that do here so of the sixers show people that are here in Wichita. What are those roles. How does that kind of broken out yeah so it's equally early divided between sales and customer support and developer development so we're we're really heavy so we have three full time developers. one is primarily web the other is android and then and then we have three sales and customer support roles better here as well. I'd than we have. The contractors fill out our legal legal team our sales team and all the marketing and stuff and what does your day to day look like. Are you here in the office lottery. You travel into kind of spread the word. How does that look. I'm I'm here in the office so one of the beauties of this technology is that I don't have to travel a lot. I still do travel but not near as much as what people think I do but the day to day for me ranges really so a lot of times I feel like a firefighter on around putting out fires but a lot is building those relationships with investors and then steering the ship in the right direction and making sure that we're on a path for success and that everything is is moving in a straight line. It's a lot like I'm sure you experience in your role of. You have a project. You need to make sure that everything is happening on time efficient manner because we don't have that then you're using spends nothing. We're going to get done yeah for sure and so that's kind of what makes up the day to day so is. I know it doesn't snow a ton of Wichita so how much are the percentage of Lombady is like snow is there you have a lot of business north yes so one of the beauties of switching into that. Lombardi pro platform is that we allowed them to to listen services they offer to we don't really have that guest house and we don't have to necessarily offer it to where they just manage it through the platform and with their customers and we provide them that that audience or the software solutions to bill dark at that so yeah. Nice how much success is hard work and hustle and grind versus luck. Would you say you know I think the lucky are lucky. People are well prepared and so the kind of the hard hard work that gets put in is is a lot of it yeah right the kind of what I said earlier of putting your head down getting the work done and writing it out through the ups and downs. It's real real easy to jump out during the downs but if you don't ride that and go back up you're gonNA miss the opportunity so you just have to be present for opportunity to knock ah for that luck to happen because if you're if you're not there then he can answer the door. So what advice would you have have for an aspiring entrepreneurs. which were somebody for example with an APP idea? What would be the first to you tell them to do so. Don't be afraid to tell people about it. nobody's. GonNa Steal your idea. The go talk to people about it and get your customer validation. That's number. One thing is find. Your customer talked to one hundred people that would tell you yes they would pay for that yeah and then start building out your plan business model canvassing if if anyone's familiar with that or not it's a fantastic first step to go through how your business would work and then that leads into your actual business model but I would say don't be afraid of failure because failure in my opinion. Is this morning opportunities to refine what you're doing. I felt a lot of failure. Oh you're but I've also had a lot of opportunities to learn and refine what we do and what kraft is and just hang tough. You know something the that we were told a lot and growing up especially in Wyoming is hang in there and enjoy the ride but seek out resources. The other thing thing is that nobody no hero is going to show up to help you with your business. You need to put the work in you need to go up. You need to seek those mentors and oftentimes a lot of people look at me and say oh I was just lucky I was in the right place at the right time what they don't see as me knocking on those doors constantly showing up and just sitting in people's. Dell's offices and waiting until someone would see me in being persistently annoying to get what what I needed and so do not think that someone who's just GonNa show up and help you with your problems. You've got to roll your sleeves up. Get dirty and put the work in otherwise. You'll just be the person five years from now. WHO said I had that idea. I love that do you have anything else to touch on with Lon Buddy. You know your touch on we're continuously growing and refining technology every day we get new requests for features in we're in the midst of some pretty big partnerships with some some uh-huh large names in the technology space that were really excited about that those immigration partnerships and it's something that's going. GonNa be really beneficial for our company but also talk putting that on the map and so like I said if we if we sat down and looked at at this a year from now there'll be a lot of things that are different so I hope we can continue oh absolutely yeah continue do this every year depending on fastest growing maybe more often than that it's going to be cool to share that story with everybody so yeah absolutely so and if anyone ever needs any help with if they have a question about starting a business or finding finding a CTO filling I love helping other business owners and other people who are interested in becoming business owners entrepreneurs so feel feel free to reach out to US visit our website and just give us a call and ask for Filler. Steve and we'd be more than happy to help awesome like that so we're. GonNa switch gears just a little bit. These are signing kind of general questions. Ask everybody that I've picked and choose from podcast. I listen to so what is something. You often recommend to people whether that's a book podcast. Ask anything like that yeah. I'm a little bit different so I think that no matter what book you read no matter what podcast you listen to your journey is unique in itself and that it's not going to be the perfect fit. There's no one one book cure all well yeah but some of my favorite I do read a lot of books yeah and we'll listen to a lot of books audibles audible so one of the ones that I'm going through now that I love is extreme ownership. Oh terrible yeah and so that that's a fantastic book. I always mispronounce his name but everything by Simon Edmonson ache or cynic leaders eat last specifically is is a fantastic book and law early early on Guy Kawasaki. I read a lot of hockey early on lean. Startup is a fantastic. Somebody else's recommended that too. I was listening to. I need to read that one and business. Model generation is a fantastic book as you're going through business modeling or our business model camping and trying to figure out how you get the company to work sure but yeah those are far as business books. Those are awesome. Yeah definitely link all those up so people have the resources and you're in pretty good company. I saw that Simon cynic was on the dose of Leadership Podcast is like in Twenty fifteen or something so it's a while ago but you're in. You're in the same company. Do you have a favorite failure in any aspect of your life. Oh Man if you ask my wife. There's a lot but a favorite failure that I had specifically with lomb buddy and the learning experience that came with it was the delillo sign up rate initially in the ACTA Wichita market and and then forcing us to kind of re look at everything do that root cause analysis that was one of my favorite failures when that brass business failed from time and garage odd space aspect that was a a great failure as well but I'll open up about this. What am I please. I guess one of the failures failures still bugs me but is one of the greatest failures is I hate not finishing what I start in that happened to be the degree at which dossier but luckily it turned into this so I I guess I really boil it down. That would be my favorite failure is that I I failed at college didn't I didn't I stopped right with that. Is that something you'd ever want to go back and finish just to kind of wrap up that part of your life yeah that or if they if anyone at the university is listening an honorary degree would be fantastic. I think in a couple of years at this rate you'll in the car. I knew I knew it was time to leave when my my wife's boss was in an executive. Mba Program at Wichita state and they were sick and tired about hearing about me and business case studies and I'll never forget when you came home and she said my boss came up to me today and she said if I hear about your husband one more time I'M GONNA lose my mind and that was a good indicator the atlas time uh-huh right. I'm here on the right track that initially mentioned the initial kind of low sign ups. Did what do you remember recall the root because of that and kind of how did you overcome that yeah it really came down to our our audience and being here in Wichita Right not a lot of people are are willing to trust a brand new piece of technology. They'd much rather have fleshed out for our too. So when I say early adopters that's willing to take on on something new to where if we looked into some of the faster growing markets at that time like Texas was really big for us. We just weren't we've moved into those markets too late in the season season and so that was one of the main drivers behind it and something we really had to sit back and look at as far as an issue here. We're able to prove that that that next season typically early adopters in that first year and then you get a bigger chunk that second year yeah we had we had a lot of users here. They realized that that we weren't just some college. Kids building was actually working so that was kind of around that those low sign ups first time. Is there any other their competition in this space that kind of does what you do. Yes so like I said earlier. There's no such thing as a novel idea so there's someone who does some aspect of what you're doing. We have a handful of them in this space that do like a service based industry but there's always probably market fit in the market. we what we focus on US providing actual value and being veteran owned in the Midwest and people who have been there and done it really helps instead of someone sitting on the east coast of the West Coast never touched a lawn care right a mall or a piece of equipment in their lives but really focused on providing value mm-hmm and not just perceived value estimates as we've been successful. I mean we see that they with we on boarded a thousand new companies on the platform last month alone the the proof is in the building yeah. That's a good point that I didn't think about that. I haven't really traveled much east coast or west coast little bit Pacific northwest but the lawn on aspects a lot of people don't know necessarily just the way it's set up in the different cities and things so midwest is kind of ideal for something like this to pop up and so in our industry to so when you look at like Angie's list or homeadvisor they're obviously going through a bit of a difficult time now some suits but it really generated in a bad rep for technology in the industry to where users are very skeptical of technology companies. That's one of our biggest uphill battles that we have is getting folks a to to trust US originally to and just because of the way they were treated by technology companies. I always tell the users that were in installing rolling integrity back into the technology industry and just being there to be their partners and help them grow instead of trying to extract act every penny from them. We have and that's made all the difference so showing them that we we do what we say that were there to help instead of take their money honey loyal customer base so yeah absolutely has there been any struggle so you're a tech based company you primarily advertise on Internet and technology analogy. Has there been an issue getting to that older population that is probably the ones that really need their lawn care mode for them. Has there been issued that or so originally when we were focused on the customers there there was not going to get someone who's older baby boomer Adam to to download an APP to tact with a a hooligan become mother-in-law's the but the way we built the technology now is that for those customers there's more than just an APP that they can pay or connect where their company company with the email they have the Internet but then worst case scenario they can print out the invoice and mail in from our system so when we made that pivot to focus on the companies we kept that in mind knowing that some of those older clients who want to connect with them were there even when they older older clients call Paul in who who need their lawn mowing. They can't do it anymore or not even older who just can't anymore on we provide a connection for them with local recommendations nations or anything to to use our platform. What is your definition of success. Someone asked me this about a year ago ago but I would say that my definition of success today seeing my son smile and knowing knowing that I work every day to provide a better future for my family for him but not only that but for for everyone who works with us right 'cause I'm not the only one who has has kid but it's about providing them an opportunity to have a sustainable job and high growth opportunities. That's that's how tried to find success today and I think we're we're. We're pretty darn. Close Yeah definitely. Do you have a life model you live by or what is some of the best advice you've received yeah so life motto the I mean we are back to to the Marine Corps or I on the amendment but integrity is a big one to me so doing what you say you will and showing up is is a big one admitting when you're wrong and I think today especially in our society. It's really easy to to to pass the buck to to not own up for for what but you you've done and if you really want slapped in the face with that lead read that that book that I mentioned earlier I was about to say pretty strong in that one up and so so that's kind of what I live by is every day trying to live a life that would make your family proud so good yeah. I think that's really important too as the CEO of a company. That's pretty. I'm pretty small still in compared to where it's going to have those foundations integrity and ownership and everything that's awesome. That's good to hear the and then you said advice right. Jerky some some some of the best advice that I've been told or I've read is fail fast and fail often like I said those are learning opportunities but they also are ways that you can continue to build yourself and your team so awesome. What is a habit. The developed over the past couple fears is most improved your life. Oh man a habit that I've I've performed trying to get to no no matter what especially with the newborn is trying to get to work on time. I'm dare and have the full focus on on what needs to be done during the day that's something. I've had for a long time but just something that you have to look at you really easy to get complacent recent right but building that that skill in hunting it over time just be there like I said. You can't can't capitalize on opportunity if you're not there so definitely so you've been in which offer a few years now is your wife around here areas well. My wife has a more interesting story than than I do. She should be on the podcast quite frankly she was born in Dubai. Oh and then she got a scholarship and came to the US when she was sixteen after I graduated high school and then bounced all over the place got somehow ended up at the same mine in Wyoming A- and fade again but so she she's not from here cool okay so I was leaning into you what is your favorite part of Wichita man which is like a big town with small town feel right right so everybody knows everybody if feels like everybody's really nice and it's continuing to grow so that that's my favorite the thing about which does the the people the environment and the activities in the restaurants. I have lived here for four years. Maybe dented a quarter of the restaurants that are here right. I don't know if you're familiar. There's a food blog here in town called Wichita by e b all the time. I read it anytime I'm about to get. We're about to go out to eat. I checked out to see what the most recent places but he recently completed every restaurant in Wichita. Talk took him like eight years. It's like every day so it'd be hard to get them all. That's fantastic the there's there's some really good ones. Though have you done the hidden gems that you really like that people about Lola's which is is hands down my favorite restaurant in the Midwest. It's it's cyber twenty-first and ninety-six hidden away back in the collective complex yeah but that is my favorite. Michael Bay is a good friend of mine but he is the mad man in the kitchen so link that up to you so people can check you. Is there anything you wish which had that. It doesn't or something that you'd improve about what your home in. I wish it had mountains the that'll be the next venture good athlete we've got the the waterpark now someone just needs to build fake mountains for Stephen. No the There's I mean everything that I need is here. We we hardly go anywhere else we. We like to eat really clean so we frequent whole foods a lot. Tease me a lot about that but the that's that's right here the I wish it had a top golf would be that would keep hearing about a different sprint top golf. It's coming but I don't know if you've heard anything about that. the you know really there's nothing that that I can think of off top my head that yeah that would be like the next big thing. I think people keep coming up with great ideas all the time for new physical structures things to do in Wichita so I'm a big outdoorsman so I love to go fishing and just get outdoors yeah. Luckily I wish there was more public land instead of private when I moved here. I was like yeah which Kansas won't be great because it's wide open. There's nothing I'll be able to go hunting and fishing and then I got here and it was like Oh everything's private except for El Dorado. I've been to Afghanistan. I was never more afraid for my life than hunting deer in Eldorado. That's so so the but no other than that that's our last one. What does Wichita me you Wichita Chautauqua Man. That's a great question. You know. Wichita just feels like home. You know it's it's it somewhere where we started. Our family started a business I've created great friendships and and business partners out of it so bills not only a business partner but a great friend of mine same with Jordan very intertwined with them in this community and a place where we're raising our son and in growing our business so that's that's kind of Wichita means to me awesome. I really appreciate a Stephen and everything is there. Any where should we will find you just lawn buddy buddy dot com or you feel free to send me an email. Here's my challenge for your listeners in every single one of my interviews or podcast but if anyone has any questions they can email melania Stephen at lawn buddy dot com and that Stephen with a V not but nobody has ever emailed me so that's their challenge listens listens to the end of this man appreciate it. Aren't you so much for your time. Thank you to everyone who stuck it out and listen to this episode of the witch alive podcast. Thanks to the local Wichita man the caves research song. You can find links to everything we discussed in the show notes type. Act Dot com if you have any comments recommendations for our podcast for pretty back this car light. Is he on Thanksgiving expert yeah.
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"Live from NPR news. Janine herbst. The Nation's top military leaders says it was a mistake to take part in a photo op with President trump last week. Here's Windsor. Johnston reports Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair General Mark Milley appeared alongside the president in front of a church after authorities forcibly removed a crowd of peaceful protesters in front of the White House inner prerecorded video commencement address to the National Defense University. Milley said that he shouldn't have been there. And that is presence in that moment, and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics, if already had used tear gas and rubber bullets to clear protesters from an area in front. Front of the White House shortly before. The president made his way to Saint John's Episcopal Church for a photo. OP NPR's Windsor Johnston President. Trump heads to Dallas today for talks on race relations in policing this ahead of a fundraiser. It's the first time trump has held a fundraising event in three months. It's because of the pandemic voter registrations in the US plummeted in March and April as the pandemic hit that's according to a new study by the non-profit Center for election innovation and Research NPR's pamphlets slur has more twenty. Twenty looked earlier this year like it might set a record for new voter registrations, but state so sudden decline as health concerns shutdown. Shutdown registration drives and motor vehicle agencies where many people sign up to vote registrations in a dozen key states declined by more than seventy percent in April from what they were in two thousand, Sixteen California for example signed up only thirty nine thousand new voters compared to one hundred eighty five thousand four years ago. Some groups say they're starting to see an increase in registrations at protests against police violence, but it's unclear whether the losses can be made up by November Pam Fazlur slur NPR news in Italy. Investigators are looking into possible criminal responsibility in the management of the pandemic NPR Sylvia. POHJOLA has more Prime Minister Giuseppe cone in the Health and interior ministers. Ministers will be questioned this week by prosecutors from Gamal The New York Times reports Bagamoyo Lamberti. Region may be the pandemics hardest hit place in the world so far regional authorities have faced angry criticism for failing to setup isolated red zones quickly enough, and for having weaken the public health service by focusing on large hospitals and private clinics Beckham always home to any export industries, and it's believed the powerful business federation pressured to keep factories open regional officials of the right-wing lead party say it was up to the Rome government to impose a red zone. The centre-left coalition says Lamberti could've ordered local lockdowns as many other regions. Did Sylvia POGGIOLI NPR News Rome? All Street is lower. The Dow is down nearly four percent loss of one thousand seventy points. The Nasdaq is down two and a half percent. The S. and P. Five hundred is down three point three percent. This is NPR. Another one and a half million people filed jobless claims last week, and while that was lower than the previous week. It's still normally high. As the economy continues to deal with the economic fallout of the pandemic. In England, officials fished a statue of an eighteenth century, slade trader toppled by protesters out of the harbor. Today. NPR's Frank Langfitt reports, heavy machinery retrieved the batter bronze statue feet I from the harbors, green waters, officials say later formed part of Bristol's Museum Collection Colston was. Was the city's biggest benefactor. He also made his fortune through the slave. Trade Bristol Mayor Marvin. says historians will study the city's memorials linked to the slave trade to inform a public conversation about their future, meanwhile statue of Robert Bayden how founded the scouts movement is slated for temporary removal in the town of poole. Critics say Bayden. Powell was a racist and supportive Hitler. Police wanted to protect the statue amid fears. It will be targeted for attack Frank Langfitt NPR news London. Amazon is banning use of its facial recognition software for a year in order to Congress time to come up with ways to regulate the ethical use of the technology. The House Committee on oversight of reforms held a number of hearings on the use of that technology, but it hasn't yet introduced a bill to regulate it. The cost of food and goods is rising. The Labor Department says the US. Wholesale prices rose four tenths of a percent last month. This as food prices rose a sharp six percent as people cook at home because of the pandemic. Crude oil prices down seven and a half percent thirty six dollars sixty eight cents. A barrel I'm Janine, herbst NPR news.
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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. President trump is warning Americans that the next two weeks will be a bad period in the fight against corona virus. It's vicious when you send a friend to the hospital and you call up to find out. How is he doing? It happened to me where goes to the hospital. He says goodbye. Sort of a tough guy. little older little heavier. Then he'd like to be frankly and you go up the next day. How's he doing? And he's in a coma. This is not the flu. The White House Corona virus taskforce's projecting as many as two hundred forty thousand corona virus deaths in the US in the coming weeks task force. Coordinator Debra Burke says the situation could be less dire. If all American seized seriously he'd guidance on ways to prevent the disease from spreading. Meanwhile federal prisoners will be locked in their cells for the next two weeks to try to stem the spread of the disease as NPR's Ryan Lucas reports. The restrictions begin Wednesday. The Fourteenth Day lockdown will go into effect at all one hundred twenty two bureau of prisons facilities around the country. The agency says this step is based on health concerns not disruptive Inmates Savior. It also says that inmates should still have access to mental health treatment. Education and other programs during this fourteen day period when feasible the new restrictions come as the corona virus continues to spread through the Federal Correctional System. According to the agency's official tally twenty eight inmates in twenty four staff tested positive for covert nineteen. So far one inmate has died from the virus Ryan Lucas. Npr News Washington. As New York's governor highlights the corona virus crisis in his state his younger brother. Cnn hosts. Chris Cuomo has tested positive for the disease as NPR's David Folkenflik reports. The younger Cuomo is broadcasting remotely from his basement. Chris Cuomo's said he had come into contact with several people with fever and chills and other symptoms a few days ago and they subsequently tested positive quantities. Feeling fine so far. He's holding teasing on your conversations about the pandemic with his older brother. New York Governor Andrew. Cuomo he will be fine but there's a lesson in this. He's an essential worker member of the press. So he's been out there. You go out there chance that you'll get infected is very high Chris. Cuomo told viewers they could be corona virus by being smart and tough and United David Folkenflik. Npr news the Food and Drug Administration has relaxed regulations types of alcohol that can be used for hand sanitizer the move clears the way for companies to e shortages prompted by high demand the renewable fuels association. Which is ethanol industry? Trade Group says that fifteen to twenty industrial plants which can make large batches of alcohol have already responded to the FDA Changes Wall Street stocks tumbled with the Dow Jones industrials. Losing four hundred ten points. The Nasdaq lost seventy four. This is NPR. News cities across Italy marked minute of silence. On Tuesday to honor victims of the corona virus pandemic that country has been hardest hit by the disease as NPR's Silvio Jolie reports. Almost one hundred six thousand people in Italy became infected and more than twelve thousand. Four hundred of those cases were fatal as the country moves into. Its Fourth Week of lockdown. The head of Italy's National Institutes of Health Cebu Gruza Ferro says Italy has hit a Plateau. In the infection rate there should soon be a decline in new cases but he added that it would be folly to relax the production shutdown and stay at home restrictions at government buildings across Italy flags were lowered to half staff and Italians marked a minute of silence to honor the victims. The great majority were residents of the northern Lamberti province Italy's financial and business heartland. The initiative was promoted by a group of mayors to show solidarity with the crisis epicenter. Italy's victim's account for more than a third of the pandemics global fatalities so pupil Jolie. Npr News Rome. The UN Security Council is urging Afghanistan's warring parties to heat the secretary general's call for an immediate ceasefire in response to the cove in nineteen pandemic. The council issued a press statement after a closed briefing on Tuesday a magnitude six point. Five earthquake has struck an area. The Central Idaho town of Stanley approximately eighty miles northeast. Boise the US. Geological Survey says. The quake was felt as far away as Helena Montana and Salt Lake City. Utah there no immediate reports of damage or injuries this is NPR news in Washington.
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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer the death toll from Colbert. Nineteen the disease caused by. The Corona virus has now risen above thirty five hundred putting the US ahead of China in terms of lives lost as the total number of us. Cases have now reached one hundred eighty-one thousand with model checking. Both and deaths will go much higher. They're not predicting the pandemic is likely to kill upwards of one hundred thousand Americans or more infect millions. Us New York City remains the hardest hit faced with a growing outbreak of the corona virus aboard the commander of US aircraft. Care IS ASKING FOR HELP. The capital of the US. Theodore Roosevelt saying he wants permission to isolate the bulk of his more than four thousand crew members. Onshore here's NPR's Tom Bowman captain. Brett Crozier the carries captain road in a March thirty letter that there is not enough space on board for social distancing in the navy he writes must take decisive action to disinfect. The ship and find off ship lodging for more than four thousand sailors. He says the sailors take risks during war but they are now not at war and Crozier says quote therefore we cannot allow a single sailor to perish as a result of this pandemic. Npr's Tom Bowman New York City mayor. Bill de Blasios ordering the city's human rights commissioner to investigate Amazon with a firing of a warehouse. Employees helped organize a worker. Walkout personally show. You has more a group of Amazon warehouse. Workers in Staten Island walked off their jobs on Monday to demand that the company closed the facility following several confirmed cases of the corona virus among staff leader. That evening Amazon fired one of the organizing workers Chris Smalls. The company says he violated quarantine and safety measures. Spas and other organizers alleged. The firing was in retaliation for his activism. Which the company Denies Federal Law Protects Worker's right to strike and organize and protest of working conditions. So New York Attorney General Letitia James called for an investigation of the firing by the National Labor Relations Board and said her office is also considering all legal. Options Alina Seljuk. Npr News on Wall Street. The Dow dropped four hundred points more from. Npr's Scott horsely the S&P five hundred index and the Nasdaq. Were also down on Tuesday wrapping up one of the most volatile quarters in stock market history. All three major indexes hit new highs in February only come crashing down in March as the corona virus pandemic battered economies around the world. The next three months are likely to see further. Market turmoil the. Us economy is shrinking at the fastest pace on record as countless businesses temporarily closed their doors in an effort to slow the spread of the virus. Millions of people have already lost. Jobs forecasters expect unemployment. Which just a month ago. At a fifty year low will soar to its highest rate since World War Two Scott horsely. Npr News Washington you're listening to NPR cities across Italy. The country hardest hit by the corona virus marked a minute of silence today to honor the many victims. Since the outbreak emerged about six weeks ago saint-pierre Sylvia POGGIOLI REPORTS. The death toll has reached more than twelve thousand four hundred and the total number of infection. Stanton nearly one hundred six thousand as the country moves into its fourth week of lockdown the head of Italy's National Institutes of Health Cebu Gruza federal says. Italy has hit a plateau in the infection rate there should soon be a decline in new cases but he added that it would be folly to relax the production shutdown and stay at home restrictions at government buildings across. Italy flags were lowered to half staff at. Italians marked a minute of silence to honor the victims. The great majority were residents of the northern Lamberti province Italy's financial and business heartland. The initiative was promoted by a group of mayors to show solidarity with the crisis. Epicenter Italy's victims accounts for more than a third of the pandemics global fatalities. Sylvia Jolie. Npr News Rome resort chain Marriott. Says it's gas names and loyalty account information as well as other personal data may have been accessed during the second. Major Data. Breach hit the company in less than two years. The world's Largest Hotel Company sang approximately five point. Two million gas may have been affected. The information that was taken includes names addresses birthdays room preferences and loyalty information for linked companies like airlines says. It's still investigating but does not believe card information passport numbers or driver's license information was accessed. I'm Jack Speer. Npr News in Washington.
NPR News: 03-08-2020 5AM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Windsor Johnston. People are being placed on lock down in northern Italy after a dramatic spike in the number of corona virus cases. This weekend the country has confirmed nearly six thousand cases of the illness and more than two hundred deaths. Npr's Tovia Pohjola reports. Italy has recorded the most fatalities inside mainland China and the largest outbreak in Europe announcing the draconian steps Prime Minister Giuseppe. Code to said we're facing anational emergency. Italians will have to learn new ways of living. The lockdown covers all of Lamberti with its economic capital Milan and fourteen other provinces including Venice. More than sixty million people. A quarter of the entire population will be quarantined until April third. It's not how the new rules will be enforced. But Cote de police and soldiers will stop cars trying to get in or out of the red zones street you measures or extended to the rest of Italy theaters cinemas museums discos embedding parlors closed. All conferences banned. The measures came after news. The number of virus cases had spiked by more than eleven hundred in one day so people jolie. Npr News Rome a nursing facility at the center of the Corona virus outbreak in Washington State has announced that twenty six of its residents have died since mid-february will stone of member station K. N. K. EX REPORTS. Half of those deaths are linked to the illness. And it's unclear how many others have been infected just about half of the residents who were initially at Life Care Center in Kirkland remain at the facility. Many have been transported to the hospital and are awaiting test results to determine if they have covert nineteen. Meanwhile Tim Killian public liaison for life. Care says there's still not enough test kits or enough employees. We've had patients who within an hour's time show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital and we've had patients die. Relatively quickly relatives of those at the nursing home have criticized what they see as a slow response to the outbreak. Kellyanne says they take concerns. Seriously he says at the moment it's hard to find any facility willing to take residence even if they are showing no symptoms for NPR news. I'm will stone in Seattle. A political crisis is brewing in Afghanistan just days before a government officials are set to meet with the Taliban to discuss a broader peace agreement tenor for glass reports from Kabul incumbent. President Ashraf. Ghani is planning his inauguration. Monday his chief rival Abdullah Abdullah says Ghani didn't win September's presidential election and he is also planning and inauguration. The disunity comes at a perilous time a week after the US. And the Taliban signed an agreement on the withdrawal of US troops and days before Afghan officials are set to sit down with the Taliban on Tuesday Jennifer. Glass reporting this is NPR. The Democratic presidential candidates are looking ahead to the next round of primary elections. Voters will cast their ballots in six days. On Tuesday including Michigan and Missouri the field of contenders seeking the Democratic nomination has narrowed to three the idea. Rod sled dog races getting underway in Alaska fifty-seven mushers and hundreds of sled. Dogs are set to take off from a frozen lake for the thousand mile race today. Alaska Public Media Zachariah Hughes reports. The weather is expected to make for a slower pace this year even by Alaska standards. This year's winter has been on the colder and snow airside hundreds of miles of trail or send to be just a narrow trench running through waste and even chest high snowpack conditions that may make for slow going and could mean more wildlife like Moose and Bison blocking pathways musher. Dennis Kanana wits says. There's only so much racers can do to prepare too late for that now. It's good to snow. It's going to smell. And that's the way it's going to be. The race commemorates the nineteen twenty five serum run that saves the town of gnome from a diptheria outbreak. This year amid corona virus concerns organizers. Say they're taking extra steps to keep mushers volunteers residents from getting sick for NPR news? I'm Zachary Hughes Anchorage Daylight. Saving time begins this weekend for much of the. Us This will allow an extra hour of sunlight at the end of the day. Standard Time will return on November I. I'm Windsor Johnston. Npr News in Washington.
NPR News: 03-08-2020 8AM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Windsor Johnston. An estimated. Sixteen million people are being placed on lock down in northern Italy a dramatic spike in the number of corona virus cases. This weekend the country has confirmed nearly six thousand cases of the illness and more than two hundred deaths. Npr SYLVIA POGGIOLI reports. Italy is among the hardest hit countries outside of China announcing the draconian steps Prime Minister Giuseppe. Said we're facing a national emergency. Italians will have to learn new ways of living. The lockdown covers all of Lamberti with its economic capital Milan and fourteen other provinces including Venice. More than sixty million people. A quarter of the entire population will be quarantined until April third. It's not clear how the new rules will be enforced but coach said police and soldiers will stop cars trying to get in or out of the red zones strict you measures or extended to the rest of Italy theaters. Cinemas museums discos betting parlors closed. All conferences banned. The measures came after news. The number of virus cases had spiked by more than eleven hundred in one day so people jolie. Npr News Rome. Rescue teams are searching for survivors after a hotel that was serving as a temporary quarantine. Facility for Corona virus. Patients collapsed in southeastern China loves night. Npr's emily reports at least ten people were killed and nearly two dozen others are missing the Shing Tao Hotel in the southeastern province of Fujian collapsed. Early Saturday evening trapping. The people quarantined inside. China has been requisitioning hotels and other large spaces like stadiums and convention centers to quarantine people waiting to be tested for the corona virus. Or who were in close contact with those sickened local city? Authorities did not provide a reason for the building collapse. Npr's emily thing reporting Democratic presidential contender. Bernie Sanders is making a final push to voters in the battleground state of Michigan. Today the state has the most delegates up for grabs in Tuesday's six primary contests Quin Kleinfeld her from member station. W. D. E. T. Report Sanders is banking on a victory whether he's attracting crowds of thousands in Detroit or talking clean water in Flint. Sanders is on the attack against Biden. He's highlighting differences over trade policies support for women and the LGBT community and campaign. He says defines grassroots populism. I don't have Michael Bloomberg supporting my campaign. I don't have. Ceo's of Large Corporation supporting my campaign and people understand that when you hold onto wealthy campaign contributors you cannot effectively speak for the working families so this country but Biden has ties to Michigan where the Obama Administration bailed out the state's signature auto industry and help Detroit's exit from bankruptcy for NPR news. I'm Quentin Klein. Filter in Detroit this is. Npr News in Washington they ID to Rod sled dog races getting underway in Alaska fifty-seven mushers and hundreds of sled. Dogs are set to take off from a frozen lake for the thousand mile race today. Alaska Public Media Zachariah Hughes reports. The weather is expected to make for a slower pace this year even by Alaska standards. This year's winter has been on the colder and snow airside hundreds of miles of trail or tend to be just a narrow trench running through waste and even chest high snowpack conditions that make for slow going and could mean more wildlife like Moose and Bison blocking pathways musher. Dennis Kanana wits says. There's only so much racers can do to prepare too late for that now. It's going to snow. It's going to snow. And that's the way it's GonNa be. The reese commemorates the nineteen twenty five serum run that saves the town of nome from Diptheria outbreak. This year amid corona virus concerns organizers. Say they're taking extra steps to keep mushers volunteers and residents from getting sick for NPR news. I'm Zachary Hughes in Anchorage Swiss Bank. Ubs says it's ending support for offshore drilling in the Arctic as part of efforts to kind change. The bank says it won't provide financing for new projects and that is trying to attract clients who favor a transition to a lower carbon economy. Several other global banks have announced in recent months new restrictions on working with fossil fuel companies. Daylight saving time begins today for much of the. Us Standard Time will return on November. First you're listening to NPR news from Washington.
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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. Louisiana's governor is extending a stay at home order through April. As the number of corona virus cases. There shows no sign of abating. The state has recorded more than fifty two hundred cases of the disease including two hundred thirty nine deaths as NPR's Debbie Elliott reports. That's a nearly thirty percent jump since Monday. Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards says. The numbers are startling. Numbers like we're reporting today. Keep us on a very steep trajectory in terms of our case growth and we know the debt puts US firmly on the path to exceeding our capacity to deliver healthcare. Edward says the number of covert patients hospitalized and those on ventilators have doubled in five days time. He says New Orleans is facing a shortage of ventilators by the weekend. Debbie Elliott. Npr News. The US Coast Guard says it's working with Holland America on a detailed plan for two cruise ships waiting to dock in Florida. The dam is carrying more than one thousand passengers and crew including one hundred ninety people who said they were sick. More than fourteen hundred others were transferred to assist her ship. The Rotterdam it's unclear where the cruise passengers and crew from. Both vessels will go. After disembarking in Fort Lauderdale the Congressional Hispanic Caucus is calling for the release of thousands of low risk immigrants in. Us custody as NPR's Joel rose reports advocacy groups and public health. Experts are worried about a corona virus outbreak in immigration detention facilities immigration and customs enforcement says there are four confirmed cases of corona virus among its detainees all at detention centers in New Jersey representative Alexandria Akhazia. Cortez says there are likely many more cases that have not been diagnosed is a humanitarian crisis. That is right here. On our doorstep says it is taking steps to protect the welfare of the thirty. Eight thousand detainees in its custody immigrant advocates. Say the agency has already released. Several dozen detainees across the country but the Congressional Hispanic Caucus says ice should release all detainees. Who POSE NO THREAT TO PUBLIC? Safety Joel rose. Npr news UN secretary. General Tonio Gutierrez is calling the corona virus pandemic the greatest test the world has faced since World War Two as Linda Fassulo reports Gutierrez warns of potentially dire effects on the global economy. Guitar said that covered nineteen is a disease that threatens everyone and will bring a serious recession. He noted there is also the risk of increased instability unrest and conflict that makes the crisis the most challenging since nineteen forty five. He said a large multilateral response amounting to at least ten percent of global. Gdp is needed to address the crisis. Linda Fasulo reporting on Asian market shares are lower down four and a half percent until this is. Npr news nine us. Senators are demanding that airlines issue for cash refunds for flights canceled during the corona virus outbreak and bring stranded Americans home from abroad the lawmakers say the companies have a moral responsibility to do so after receiving government bailouts Italy. The country hardest hit by corona virus. Pause for a minute of Silence. Tuesday to honor victims of the disease as NPR. Sylvia Poggioli reports more than twelve thousand of Italy's nearly one hundred. Six Thousand Corona virus cases have been fatal as the country moves into its fourth week of lockdown the head of Italy's National Institutes of health. Cebu GRUZA FARRELL SAYS. Italy has hit a plateau in the infection rate. There should soon be a decline in new cases but he added that it would be folly to relax the production shutdown and stay at home restrictions at government buildings across Italy flags were lowered to half staff at. Italians marked a minute of silence to honor the victims. The great majority were residents of the northern Lamberti province Italy's financial and business heartland. The initiative was promoted by a group of mayors to show solidarity with the crisis epicenter. Italy's victim's account for more than a third of the pandemics global fatalities so people Jolie. Npr News Rome. Mary International is reporting. Its second major security breach in less than two years. The maryland-based hospitality chains has personal data on approximately five point. Two million guests worldwide may have been compromised. Marianne says it detected the breach in late February. I'm Shay Stevens. Npr News in Washington.
Why won't Keir Starmer reveal his donors?
"Before you start listening to this podcast we've got a special subscription offer. You can get twelve issues of the spectator for twelve pounds. Which will give you access to everything on our website and will also throw in a free twenty pound Amazon voucher just to spectators courtesy k. Forward Slash Voucher. If you like to get this offer. Hello AND WELCOME TO COFFEEHOUSE SPECTATORS. Daily Politics podcast. I'm John I'm joined today. By Casey Bulls and James Precise both kissed Armagh and Rebecca. Long Bailey were interviewed by Andrew. Neil last night while both survived the grilling neither particularly impressed his a short clip of Rebecca Long Bailey being grilled over. Pf contract. She worked on when you first ran for election in two thousand fifteen in the general election. Then you'll leave. It said that you became a solicitor for the NHS to help defend our health service. But that's not true is it? I did work for a law firm and the department I worked in only did work for the NHL Assist. You run to solicit for the chess and it doesn't seem that you defend the health service either. Does well now. What we did was only worked for the NHS. I was wrong for the NHS and what you did working in this department for the rich in this Manchester. So this does office is that you worked for a lawyer. Senior lawyer in that department who helped draw up contracts which handed ownership of any hospitals to a Luxembourg investment vehicle. Well you do that. I didn't do that department. Do say is that we did have a department. I did commercial property and this is where I experienced the intricacies and the insidious nature of Pfi. Did you work on contracts? Well you couldn't not work compeer five. You didn't play with them. Defending let me let me contracts. Let Me Voy way were you defending the NHS. James Did you think the to Kansas State. One over them did as well as leasing. Aunty did when when she appeared kissed on a was as we've come to expect of him in this race. Very cautious. Big Emphasis on uniting. The Labor policy is very reluctant to to criticize Jeremy Corbyn too much of a flashes. People ain't of ankles. We believe think Nick Woman's problem he did say that was the issue that the most on the doorstep I fought Rebecca Long was a reminder. She is not ready for Primetime. I and I felt the she ended up having to for example. Admit that when you do it by a lawyer. How rescued in it? Just she was actually a lawyer writing. Pfi contracts which notes from her wing of Labor Party being for the so. I I mean there's a problem there. I also think there wasn't really an argument about how she was actually. GonNa win an election but I mean you can give kissed too many models either. Because kissed almost at the his his what he kept calling his gritty conversations in those red bull seats that Labour lost and also have made people think that people in those seas actually are in favor of free movement on balance which I think is is is that that is an interpretation that CCS. He'll be very happy for him to have escape one of the more interesting parts of the interview. The Kiss Thomas was used pulled up over these political donations. I think unlike the other candidates. Here's your future release his straightaway and his instead relying on that parliamentary process. I want I think engineer asked him just to name. Simply the top five which he didn't do do you think him sort of not revealing dies can have damaging to his prospects with the Labor membership. Those here already skeptical of leadership. I think it validates their concerns. I think it fuels this idea. The actually he's not only he seems this idea that he is of the left and not necessarily a tree successor to Jeremy Coon. But at least someone who's going to carry on the couponites tradition just depending on the given day where he seems to be trying to push. I think that the fact he won't reveal his donations. Fuses idea that actually this could be a bit of an act so I think it can be damaging for the question is has has. I've already made their mind up. It could be a sense that we're missing something here. Wouldn't be the first time in politics but you just get the sense from everyone and labor that if you're the contests practically done and actually the portion of the membership. He might care about purity in the sense not paying close enough attention element. There's no specific evidence. I think perhaps this will change if whether or not kissed. Ahmadou donation comes to the fore and is by questionable source in the tiny Black Foundation is passing the bank rolling kiss. Tom Has leadership bid. I think at that point it could be the game changer. Even if interest into how many people have actually voted by? I think there's a sense of loss we would do the first week but I think it's just mystery you get the sense that his popularity is far enough ahead that even if it's a bit of a dad but that said it's clear from vote. Rebecca Lamberti has been saying campaign is they think is by far the most effective criticism. They have against Kissam right now. And I think the fact that they've persevering even if even they're pretending she makes it harder for Rebecca langugage take dropping kissed Amish Cabinet Jason laid out. She didn't think this is a done deal in the space. And perhaps it's something we have nations. Nothing could did notice when A. It's one of the parts Rebecca Long Bailey's interview with under when she's sort of brought up. Thomas Donations said Oh you everyone wants something. And all all my donors momentum all the unions and so on and say that's not an issue because they all want left wing causes showy people funding kissed. Also you saw not exchangeable need the nation's kissed almonds weakness I think which kept emphasizing in the loyally wave get unsurprisingly given these these in East fully compliant with the rules which is but the point is he is complied with the rules Bob. He's also not being as transparent as he could be a heap. Presuming knows he's done all he doesn't WANNA share that information. I also think on on Casey's point there's a big difference it even more to win. The nature of his victory matters a lot. He has signed up these ten policy. Pledges they all. They all all the level of left-wing The admit wouldn't have contemplated and he's trying to I I as you get your bug citing trying to reassure Kuban members if he wins big then even though he hasn't been explicit in this campaign the changes he wants to make he will have he'll have more. How in the policies do that if his margin of victory is relatively narrow. I think you will find himself quite hemmed in by the number of pledges here's May during this campaign to draw on appeal to it was awesome. How often he spoke about unity. Also this is what he thinks is big selling point is and he's always defense. You said well what what would. Kuban is not like properly thought. Well I didn't want anyone to know unity unity. Unity was a big emphasis. That I'm not as easy because Rebecca radius running slightly more factional campaign. Big Question. I listen to into he committed that nationalizing those four industries and abolishing tuition fees will be in the manifesto in two thousand twenty four. He didn't resolve free movement. He is already beginning to slightly books himself. In in terms of his political position in other news it was announced last night that the regional airline flybe has shutdown canceling hundreds of flights and leaving passengers stranded. Now we know that Flyby has had some difficulties recently. It doesn't seem that long ago that they were being had to be helped by the government just to stand its legs. Last time I keep up in a big question on everyone's mind is how much does this down to the Corona Virus and People Counseling Holidays K. Did you have any thoughts on that? We know the government this year took what was seen as a controversial decision in conservative circles to effectively bailout flyby in some form now plenty people in government. They never spent a penny doing this but it was definitely enough to rile their rival flight companies. You found that there is unfair intervention and also route many think tanks who took defeat it. You shouldn't be being so interventionist If you have majority conservative government it was cliffnote. Flyby had many difficulties and wasn't a company that was was in its peak fitness to say the least. I think that appears to have happened is corona virus and a lack of people using Allen has tipped over the edge but I think as an example of it if you want to read an has corona virus. Closedown Flyby will fly beavers ready. A lot of trouble. I think you have a trick ahead was interesting. We're looking at the general fact. The Corona virus over the next couple of months is I think it's going to have an effect on business which is entry in negative one. Perhaps unless you are a face mask company but at that point what level. The fact is going to happen. I think businesses are already in a difficult place the already having financial issues. I think those are the ones that the government is going to think. How's it going to respond to this? Are they going to let these companies? Are they going to bring in such measures in the budget? Which is going to provide relief. What's the plan? Because I think that's a real danger and obviously you have these large companies with large profit margins and the profit margin might be reduced. But I think it's those on the edge so troubled companies are ready in like in the case of flyby chicken to be the probably the most long term potentially no way back affected James. I think it was reported in the Telegraph's Today the flyby went to the treasury just before they went bust and kind of asked for an overhaul of add passenger duty which which they didn't the government didn't do do you think maybe a mistake on their part not to interfere more this time not to give that flyby that support again he was lost. I'm round if these routes that flyby flies also vital to regional Kato's openly. The state should be prepared to provide them directly what what is given industrial by name and said it's not about picking winners but propping up loses and. I mean the fly beefing is going to class example of that. I also think this government says that it is committed to net zero carbon emissions by twenty fifty. If you all support an an line that does lots of short haul domestic flights in a country where there is a limited justification for them given the size. Venezia's haunt suggest. You're serious about I mistake. Last time was really made last time round of equal. Casey's point and there is a there is a big question which is how do you establish which businesses that are hit by the crown of ours all companies? That were going out of business. Anyway when you won't come is that need for example right if we really are in a situation where eighty percents countries got together in the vote. The worst case scenario the government is I should say better. Things will be far less than eighty percent. But it's obviously going to have a big effect on pubs restaurants. Always GonNa things because people are just not going to be going out in the same way as they were before. And say you've got to. This is going to be a test for the government to work out how to handle also because it's quite clear how the leaves are one of the big questions as well as how many people end up being sick and therefore seeing effective reduction in their wages street sick pay rather than than normal weight and so. Y- visit complicated problem but I think I think I think I mean as Katie said you. Even if corona virus had had nevertheless Wuhan Province in China beans accessory contained that I mean it would be molly surprising. A flyby had not common to trouble at some point again this year. I as it struggles in January demonstrated it the business model. How deep flaws thank you James? Thank you Katie. And thank you for listening
Hosni Mubarak, Egyptian president ousted during Arab spring, dies at 91
"This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm nick miles and at forty hours. Gmt on Tuesday the twenty fifth of February. These are main stories. Egypt's former President Hosni Mubarak who ruled for three decades has died aged ninety one. The Deputy Health Minister of Iran is reported to have tested positive for the corona virus. Also in this coast. Donald Trump is in Delhi to talk trade. But there's no talking from mopus in other parts of the city. They're fighting over. The country's new citizenship law the clashes that broke out of increasingly become Communist. And what we're seeing on the ground today very much. Looks like a religious riot and an apology from the opera singer Placido Domingo for sexually harassing more than a dozen women. He ruled Egypt for three decades before being forced from office. During the Arab Spring in Twenty Eleven Hosni Mubarak has died at the age of ninety one. The country was stable during his time in power but many Egyptians saw him as a dictator who governed with an iron grip will hear more about that in a moment from someone who lived under rule but first Caroline Hawley looks. Back at his life Hosni. Mubarak took power after the assassination of President Sadat in nineteen eighty one by Islamic extremists. Stability became the watchword of his rule like his predecessor. President Mubarak was a military man. A former pilot and head of the Air Force in foreign policy he was a key ally for the West in the Middle East maintained Egypt's peace treaty with Israel. At home he also maintained emergency laws throughout his rule giving the security forces sweeping powers of arrest but discontent was never far from the surface and in two thousand eleven Egyptians inspired by the Revolution in Tunisia took to the streets for eighteen days Hosni Mubarak Clung to power in a series of television addresses. He made concessions to try to save his regime but also defended his record. I worked for Egypt progress on the progress of its people. My aim was never to seek a false fake powerpoint. I am I believe the majority of Egyptian people know who is first name of Arctic. Pains ME Benny Weapon. What what has been expressed by some people from my own country. The following day Hosni Mubarak stepped aside. He was put on trial for complicity in the killing of protesters of visibly reduced man wheeled into court on a stretcher. He was sentenced to life in prison but the conviction was overturned and in March. Two thousand seventeen. He was freed having already served a three year term for embezzling public funds for man portrayed in power as a latter day Phero. It was a humiliating end. The BBC's Yousef Taha is Egyptian. I asked him what life was like under Hosni Mubarak was almost not worth living. Because if you had any political views or political ambitions you were in deep trouble and the problem here is not you alone. Who would suffer? But your parents your family your brother your sister would be dragged into it as well. They would be arrested. There would be made superior would be threatened that either you give up any political ambitions or They would face a lot of trouble and that happened many times with a lot of figures. Many of them who disappeared and Ashley when the twenty eleven apprising took place and protesters raided the state security buildings. They found some underground rooms. Where the worst cabins and of course? These cousins belong to some of the political dissidents who were made disappear and briefly. Yousef even if you weren't politically minded you in those times. These law swept up. Many other old legions didn't well. We need to recall here that Mubarak came to power on the assassination of his predecessor. Anwar said that he was killed during a military parade in one thousand nine hundred eighty one in October and Mubarak was sat next to him. He was Mubarak's Party. He was said that is vice president so he took over as president and since that day were emergency law that he never lifted throughout his nearly three decades in power. And because of those emergency laws you could be walking the street and you would be stopped. Asked for your identity papers. You might be taken away into some. But he's stationed. Sal while they investigate you and your background and views and the rest of it and many critics now will perhaps e that holds me. Mubarak autocratic model being perpetuated. Now by the current president el-sisi much so because many people blame Mubarak for the ills of Egypt at least economically and also that Egypt was rigged used on the international arena from being one of the regional superpowers who had a lot of say in the affairs of the Middle East to be marginalized through his policies. And this continues to this day. The number of cases worldwide of the new corona virus is now more than eighty thousand while the overwhelming majority in China other countries particularly in the Asia region a saying big increases on a daily basis. Iran is one such example. Yesterday the country's deputy health minister was denying claims of a cover up over the extent of corona virus cases. There today armored Amara Body for honey as himself tested positive for the disease runner Ryan pull from the BBC's Persian service is following the latest developments. It's very interesting. He's the same person who yesterday had press conference in which he said that he didn't believe in quarantine Lockdowns and he said these are old fashioned measures and that they will contain corona. But what's interesting is that. It's clear that he has met with a number of officials over the last few days and now there are worries now the heart of Iranian politics might have been infected. So that's the concern amongst politicians. What about the bigger picture? How many cases are across the country? Is it possible to say yes? At least ninety five cases having positive and thirteen provinces across the country from north to South East to West are have now reported cases off coronavirus This is yesterday. It was only seven provinces. Today we're talking about thirteen so it's quickly spreading across the country over the last twenty four hours or twenty five percent increase in deaths and forty two percent increase in the number of cases are what is being done to try to contain the situation across the world. It seems to be either a case of you current. No you don't quarantine. What are the authorities do now? So they're trying to increase awareness among the people so state division and the politicians are asking people to stay at home. Schools Universities. Some some Cultural events have been shot down but the main problem is the Shia shrines in the of Mashhad where they have pilgrims from all across the region and they are still open. And that is the hotbed on the epicenter of the outbreak. Well South Korea is also suffering particularly badly from the current of ours infections. There are now close to a thousand confirmed cases there. What is particularly worrying is that it's been an almost thirty. Fold increase in just six days. The authorities say they're going to test around two hundred thousand members of a secretive church believed to be at the center of the country's outbreak correspondent. Laura Bicker in the worst affected area of Dago where she says. The crisis is now taking its toll on the medical profession and director figures. Dr Association has Written Emotional. Lexa urging doctors to join the fight against krona virus. He said that the number of medics is dwindling. One by one they're having to go into quarantine because they're coming into contact with infected patients and he said they are exhausted and his words in the email he says let's save data. There is no ban on any movement here in day. Grew for anyone the advices if you've come into contact with a patient who has innovators then you must go into quarantine for fourteen days. But there's no are are being put in place telling people that they must stay inside. It's only advice when it comes to Albert. Really the main thing that seemed to be what he did is getting mass to go about. Skills are closed. Universities are and also. We're hearing there are thirteen soldiers in several basis in South Korea who have been infected the nearby. Us forces vase is no on red alert after a visitor to the base contracted providers other cases. Right across. The country are also causing concern. Cabin crew from Korean Air has also come down with corona virus. We have new details on what Rick Neighbor on. And it's not just Shinde Church of Jesus that is causing concern the largest Presbyterian church in the world with over one hundred thousand members in Seoul. It had two people come down with corona virus so far the worst affected country in Europe is Italy where seven people have died and more than two hundred confirmed cases. Eleven towns across Lamberti where the outbreak emerged suddenly on Friday and Benito have been quarantined for at least the next two weeks piggy Johnson broadcaster for London one station broadcast from Italy aimed at Italians living in the UK. She's lived in Lombardy for forty years and she spoke to Dan. Damon about what life is like there right now in her village of Monty evacuate because we're in the yellow zone which is locked down not quarantine. Luckily they're advising against all kinds of contact with a lot of people. So that closed all the schools universities cinemas theatres even La Scala. The gyms any places where a lot of people gather not for good reason. Let's say so. You can go to what you can use public transport but in Milan yesterday. The transcend the tube practically empty because people are worried. Obviously so basically we just avoiding lots of people. There's lots of self-isolation. A sickly are people wearing masks. Yes yes a lot of people who are out in the streets in public places. The masks and gloves Yup and I think your daughter is a doctor and is helping with people who have the virus. Daughter-in-law is working in the hospital. Monster whether it's corona virus case in intensive care so at the moment I can't have contact with my with my daughter-in-law my son because I'm a subject slightly at risk because I've had problems in the past with my lungs last year I had three months bronchopneumonia. So I've had all my injections but I can't. I can't have contact with anybody just in case this is why. I'm avoiding unfortunately my son and my daughter-in-law because even though obviously older people in that hospital taking all the precautions necessary they have to special mouths and gloves at Cetera. But there's always you know there's always the threats that it might get back to me so I have to be very careful. How good is the Italian health system? And how much do people trust that system to cope with this outbreak? Well and it depends where you live in my particular region Lamberti. The Italian health service is fantastic. I've always had really good treatment. You do pay even though its public. You'd pay quite a bit but very good. I think they're I think they're handling very well. And we get a lot of information from the government. It's a pity that was a little problem because last night the they Prime Minister County accused one particular hospital not following the pros two colon causing another outbreak. An obviously the health chiefs are angry about that because they all doing a really good job and they're managing to contain in the north of Italy. All these outbreaks unfortunately one lady tourists from the north of Italy travelled to Sicily and Sicily. Today has the first case but apart from that. They're managing to contended. I think they're doing a very good job. What about information because one issue I think is that it's not quite clear how the disease got into Italy? A white broke out. Okay well I was watching Italian television smellier and they explained that the reason that it started in Lamberti is because long date with Milan in the center is is the main industrial parts of Italy. And there's a lot of trade with China so if it's come to the north of Italy it's because of the trade. The south of Italy doesn't have this kind of district doesn't have the same kind of context with with With China and in fact they're trying to stop. The virus gets South of Italy yesterday a lot of trip with delayed from the north up to three hours because there was Sunday. -tising them so they are really trying to do everything they can to contain it. I think they're doing a great job. That was Peggy Johnson resident of the village of Monta Vecchio in Lamberti which is under control measures because of covered nineteen the Indian capital daily. Is witnessing its worst? In decades as rioting between opponents and supporters of new citizenship law escalates in parts of the city. At least seven people dead one of them a policeman. Many police are among the hundred and fifty or so injured to the violence is becoming increasingly. Communal with moment of Hindus and Muslims pitted against each other shops and houses have been burnt. Journalists have been attacked. The violence is overshadowing visit to India by president trump. Who received a rapturous? Welcome on Monday. The BBC's Yogi dilemma reports from Delhi. It's the worst violence. The Indian capital has seen in decades for a second day clashes have taken place in northeast. Delhi protests over the controversial Citizenship Law have descended into religious riots. The BBC has seen mobs of men carrying sticks and stones shouting Hindu slogans asking for Muslim protesters to be shot. Hindu residents in the area. Say Muslims are shooting bullets and throwing stones at them? People from both religious communities have been killed and injured in the clashes shops and vehicles have been set on fire and serious questions are being raised about why the government has not yet been able to contain the violence this on a day when. Us President trump is in Delhi on his first official visit to India. Coming up in this podcast a memorial service for Kobe. Bryant and his daughter killed in a helicopter crash. People got underside. Kobe not just a player culture. There's an icon. He's almost like a religion. I won't point because when things were down other with them or you're not fans came from far and wide to pay their respects one of the world's most famous opera singers placido. Domingo has apologized following an investigation into allegations that he sexually harassed multiple women. The Spanish tenor resigned from the Opera Company. He helped found when the accusations emerged last year. Charlotte Gallagher as this reported today to. Mingo has achieved a feat for an opera singer becoming a household name. He's performed in some of the world's most prestigious venues won countless awards and sold millions of records but last year. Multiple Women accused the singer of sexual harassment with some accusations dating back to the Nineteen Eighty S. The reaction was swift. Domingo quit the Los Angeles Opera Company. He helped found and transferred a series of shows at the New York Matt now investigation by the US. Union representing opera singers has reportedly found that more than two dozen people either sexually harassed or witnessed inappropriate behavior by Domingo according to the associated. Press News Agency. The report concluded that accounts from twenty seven. People showed a clear pattern of sexual misconduct and abuse of power spanning two decades in a statement. Ap Placido Domingo said. He was truly sorry for the hurt. He caused and accepted full responsibility for his actions. He added that he respected the women for speaking out Placido. Domingo is still performing and is due to sing in Germany Switzerland Russia and the UK this year. Whether those shows will still go ahead isn't yet clear. Though is Charlotte Gallagher. I Will Placido. Domingo's statement comes a day after the guilty verdict in the New York case against Harvey Weinstein. Who until recently was one of those powerful figures in Hollywood his conviction for rape and sexual assault relates to the cases of just two women. But he's facing many more charges in the US and elsewhere here in Britain. A number of women say that they were abused by him during visits to the UK. Jill Greenfield is a partner at the London. Firm Field Fisher. She is pursuing a civil claim in the UK against Weinstein and she gave Dan Damon her reaction to his conviction. Frankly him being found guilty of a criminal act is is tremendous and I think it's just a huge relief. Factually we always knew that they were the more difficult cases but thankfully the jury saw through all the various shenanigans. That went on the suggestions that they were liars unconvicted. It's tremendous really tremendous an all too often. I think cases of this nature don't actually reach the criminal courts and so actually I don civil cases one case I take it to trial and we had the judge agreed that my clients have been raped is quite rare actually to get these kind of findings include but what a huge relief for all the victims it is tremendous has it changed the power balance when there are powerful men and they are predating on women who worked for them well. If anyone's got any sense of course I mean I think the the power dynamic is very interesting thing because it was quite clear to me and I've spoken to many victims over recent years about what was happening and they were just so scared to speak out and I would think now with a criminal conviction the fact they were scared that they wouldn't be believed. I would hope would be something. They wouldn't be quite so worried about and would actually say well. Actually I do need to speak out. I do need to challenge this behavior. I can do something about it. And the law. Impulsivity is actually on my side. It's still the case. Isn't it that so few of those allegations are tested in court? Prosecutors are nervous. The Crown Prosecution Service in Britain example is always reluctant. Didn't I saw a figure really for Manchester that Oh forty. Five cases. Only eight actually went through into trials. So is that going to change. Well I would hope so I mean. It's shockingly poor. Isn't it really the number of convictions? Rate you get and difficulty is that. It's one person's word against northern you know he find emails of some kind of relationship and not seen as tantamount to say well no. It wasn't right. Well that's just not right. You know where rate does not simply happen. Someone has pulled off the street and majority of rape actually happened when there's some kind of relationship big word relationship a personal relationship on abuse within not relationship so I would hope that people will think just think again about nothing. Actually I need to look a bit more carefully and analyze. What's going on here? This issue of consent is that being educated properly. I think everyone knows what consent is. It's whatever they still push on those you know they. They think no is yes. Well no is no rape is rape. So you're mistaken. I think if anyone thinks that name is yes well distinct again because it really doesn't and what can you tell us about the cases that you'll handling the restrictions not alarm afraid? My clients will. Anonymous is not really important difference because in the states of course none of the witnesses were. Anonymous is you. Don't get that protection as you do in the UK so every person in the states who gave evidence was under the media spotlight was my clients are actually protected by cloak iniquity. That's actually really important for them. Jill Greenfield South Africa's Commission for gender equality has said that it will seek compensation for the victims of forced sterilization of HIV positive women. The commission released a report following an investigation into fifteen hospitals into provinces. Our South Africa correspondent NAM. Som Seco- reports from Johannesburg the Commission for Gender Equality Report into forced or coerced sterilization of fifty women which details how medical staff reached the Jew to patients has been referred to South Africa's Nursing Council and the Department of Health during investigations which began in Twenty fifteen. The commission found that complainants were subjected to cruel torture and inhumane treatment at the hands of the health department. The survivors detailed horrific experiences of how forced sterilization impacted their lives. Some said they lost their partners because they could no longer have more children. The health department has been instructed to report back to the commission in three months on what steps have been taken to deal with this unethical practice. Thousands of fans have attended a memorial service in Los Angeles for the basketball player. Kobe Bryant Bryant. Who's widely regarded as one of the finest sports stars of his generation died in a helicopter crash last month which also killed his thirteen year old daughter shortly before the service it emerged that. Bryant's widow. Vanessa is suing the company that owned a helicopter for damages. From Los Angeles David Willis reports Gianetti. Koby Bryant was an athlete who transcended the world of sport and among the celebrities paying tribute to him was beyond center more than one hundred thousand fans applied for tickets to the memorial service which was held at the staple center the home of the La Lakers was way more than the venue could accommodate. And the twenty thousand who gained entry came not only from across the country from other countries as well twenty five year old men Dot Sharma traveled from Vancouver to pay tribute to a man described as his mental. People got just a player. He was a culture. Here's an icon. You almost like a religion. I won't point because I what things were down either. You're with them or you're and I was very honored to support amount like that because he accepted everything even his mistakes. Widely regarded as one of the greatest Boston ball. Players of all time could be Bryant chose as his own mentor. Another basketball legend Michael Jordan the former NBA star rarely speaks in public but he turned out for brands memorial to pay tearful tribute to the man. He called his little brother. We're Kobe. Bryant died a piece of me and as I look in this arena across the globe appears you died. Well she wouldn't be. Those are the memories that we have to live with it. We learn from. I promise you from this day forward. I will live with the memories of knowing that I had a little brother that I tried to help. Everywhere I could kill alongside could be Bryant in that helicopter. Crash was his thirteen year. Old Daughter. Jonah otherwise as G G talented basketball player herself. She drew this tearful eulogy from her grieving. Mother Koby Bryant's widow Vanessa. Mommy Italia Bianca Capri and Daddy Levy so much TV. I will miss your sweet handmade cards your sweet kisses and your gorgeous smile. I miss you all of you. Every day. I love you unmentioned. Today was the other side of Kobe. Bryant's complex legacy in two thousand and three. He faced sexual assault charges in a case that was eventually settled out of court relationships with teammates. Such as Shaquille O'Neal were not always cordial either. Although or neal told the staple center crowd they later patch things up or to cover because we speak Kobe. You're holding hands Walk Engineers Basketball Court. Kobe Heavens every play a love you till we meet again resum peaceful. Vm emerged into the sunshine has Christina Aguilera clues the memorial service voicing Ave Maria by then. It had emerged that Vanessa. Bryant was suing the company that owns the helicopter that crashed killing both her husband and daughter pleading negligence on the part of the pilot. David Willetts reporting from Los Angeles. I'm that's all from us for now but there will be an updated version of the global news. Podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast all the topics covered in it. You can send us an email. The address is global podcast at BBC. Dot Co dot UK. I'm nick balls and until next time goodbye last year the BBC World Service told the story of the first moon landing. We did it. We did it the now. Thirteen minutes to the moon returns with the real story of Apollo Thirteen dramatic rescue mission from the depths of space. A problem. Here we're not GONNA THE ANYMORE. We're GONNA just be damned lucky to get home. Eighteen minutes to the moon season two coming soon search for thirteen minutes to the moon to him more.
Italy Total Lockdown?
"I'm Bob Schieffer and I'm Andrew Schwartz of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies and this is the truth of the matter. This is the podcast where we break down the policy issues the days since the politicians are having their say we will excuse them with respect and bring in the experts many of them from CSIS. Who have been working these issues for years. No Spin No bombast. No finger-pointing just informed discussion. Today's episode of the truth of the matter I'm flying solo as Bob. Shieffer is out of town to get to the truth of the matter about corona virus. Today we brought in my colleagues Conley. And Steve Morrison Steve. I WANT TO I. Italy made this decision to go from quarantining sixteen million in northern Italy to going all the way to sixty million the full country pretty drastic decision. Why do they make it? I think we're still trying to sort that out. But one clear reason is that the sub-national approach. They were proposing of sixteen million in the north in the Milan Lamberti. Nato Venice area simply was not going to work. People were flooding out of the zone. Going south. The health system was overwhelmed and risk of collapse and they came to a decision that they needed national state solution. Not A subnational solution. They had to have the power and resources at that level and to put it in that context that otherwise they were trying to fix a problem in one zone and it was migrating to other parts of the country and contradicting the whole idea that you could carve out just one zone within the country. That's my sense. Keep in mind that what what's driving. The crisis in Italy is the demographics you have this huge proportion of very elderly folks And you have a very fragile health system so that combination of advanced aging and a very fragile health system created this enormous vulnerability and it was at risk of collapse and that prompted this middle of the night decision over the weekend to close off the the north and then the decision less than two days. Later that we're GONNA just go nationwide heather. What do you think yeah see? I think you're absolutely right. And in some ways it goes back to the failure over the weekend when a document was leaked that was announcing the quarantine of the sixteen million in northern Italy. That leak led people to flee northern Italy by plane by train by car and I think they understood even by Monday was the first time that the Carbonaro with being placed on highways. And things like that so it was it. Basically they didn't quarantine the sixteen million There's speak Italian. That's the police military police but you know today. There are planes. Leaving Italy going to Heathrow and so I think it was a recognition that they couldn't contain the red zone so they decided to create an all Italian red zone and to to create a little bit of equality Again tensions political tensions between northern Italy southern Italy they will play out over the course of the pandemic so I think absolutely what Steve was was sane is true but what we're seeing now is neighboring countries taking matters into their own hands so This morning the Australian government announced the closure of the border between Austria and Italy the only way in Tien Cross that border is if they have a medical certificate allowing them to cry of Schengen correct. So now what you're seeing is the neighboring countries beginning to enforce this in a in a very ad hoc way and I think again going back to what Steve. Saint on the bed situation. I think in part of the dramatic decisions. We've seen this government take over the last forty eight to seventy two hours has to deal with a crisis of of hospital beds. I see you. Units the healthcare system now because of the numbers are becoming overwhelm. They're having to select which patients have to are able to be on ventilators needing to slow this down so I think all of these issues have really created this sense of of urgency. You put on top of that yesterday's earlier Sunday some of the prison riots. I mean there's a fragility to this right now as a government that's under enormous pressure a government that is already very fragile A coalition that is trying to manage the best they can but they are stumbling through the It's an interesting that the scale so similar to Wuhan Who Bay province right. I mean we've got now sixty million Italians under this very Italian form of quarantine to compare with what happened in China. Tell us more about like what's the model for this? 'cause this people are going to work planes still flying but people's daily lives are changing profoundly. Exactly so what you've basically say as a as a wholescale cancellation of sporting events religious services. Anything that requires a large gatherings. They've now put in place social distancing where you have to be a meter between individuals but they're allowing people to you know use public transportation to to get to work Basically you cannot be in restaurants or shops past six. Pm Every night and it said they were trying to manage this as best they can but but again people are traveling. Planes are leaving. Things are are moving as normal. They're trying to keep this delicate balance of not panicking. People trying to keep a semblance of economic Motion going forward but You know seeing these scenes of you know a a deserted of Venice It is eerie. I have to say when you see these very crowded tourist spots absolutely hopefully that sort of ice that sort of social isolation or bringing down. The levels of interaction will slow transmission. But they're also trying to ease the pressure on the health system. Which as you said I mean. It was coming unhinged yes the. The demands of those who were in extreme illness and at risk of death had just skyrocketed and the system was overwhelmed and they had to do something to kind of rain. That pull that back in and and dampen the curve the the rate of growth of infections. We don't know if that's GonNa work but it is something that's reliant much more it's a liberal democratic model. It's much more rely on individuals agreeing to comply by these new rules. There are penalties right. They have police giving out. If you have to go from one community to the next for work you gotta carry a certificate with you and you can be fine and three months of jail. Potentially I mean again. This is also a cultural as some cultures You know very much. Follow government rules and regulations the Italian culture. I don't want to over generalize but sort of prides itself on a little bit of you know ignoring some of those Government specified rules. So you're absolutely right. We're seeing some of that tension of of culturally Not always following the rules and I think as this breakout was happening. They were not perhaps following. The government guidances closely. But now these draconian measures. I think have very much sobered people. They're trying to be cognizant of the social distancing norms but again this goes until April third. This is a this. Isn't just a sort of a snowstorm here? Oh we've got twenty four hours. We'll hunker down. This is a long term issue so as we watch this unfold until April third. I have to say I mean I. I hope things progress That normalization can return after April third but for Christians Holy Week and Easter. That is a very important time for all observing countries particularly Italy with the Vatican. This is a very significant religious week and I hope that they would have to extend this quarantine red zone period into the Easter celebrations. Which would again prohibit gatherings to celebrate That important religious holiday? Well I wanted to ask you. There are people in Italy panicking at this point. I mean contracting it. You know people in the United States aren't quite panicking yet. People in the United States certainly concerned and growing more concerned by the day. Or where's the public in Italy right now that you said they're starting to follow the rules more closely? But how are the people feeling? Is the population panicked yet? This is his very anecdotal. I'm communicating with with Italian colleagues. Think tank partners things like that So this is certainly not representative. I think it's everyone is very very sobered. They're very worried about family members and I think some of the decisions when the The northern Italian Corentin went into effect. The decision of do you go to northern Italy if you have family there. Elderly parents grandparents to be with them. Do you try to get out and to to stay away from it. These are very very difficult decisions. Under the best of circumstances this type of measures that this government has taken would be extraordinary on the best of political economic healthcare systems. And you have to understand. This is happening when Italy politically very fragile economically was already going into recession at the end of twenty nineteen has really not seen appreciable amounts of economic growth for twenty years You have a populist. Nationalist Movement that was born in northern. Italy in Lombardy C. You have all of these factors that play into both the government's crisis response as well as the populations understanding of does there do. They have confidence in the institutions and the government Will respect the rules so this is what we need to carefully watch over the next several weeks of how this plays out politically. This government is under enormous stress. How this economically devastating for Italy Which is really not good. News could could set off potentially another European economic crisis with its origins in Italy and underneath this populism xenophobia native. Ism that we have seen play out. There will a role to play in this over the coming weeks so lots of things to watch but right now sobering managing it. Let's watch it on this question. Andrew that you raise about. How does the Italian population look at this grenade to remind ourselves? This whole thing evolved at rocket speed and the intervention is coming late right. There was a slow sluggish complacent response to the early phase of this epidemic the transmissions got way out in front of the Italian government. They then in began the first lockdown. Fifty thousand eleven villages. That didn't work. They didn't get control over it. Then they did this this sudden sixteen million and then sudden sixty million so they're racing in and trying to be very aggressive but they're coming in really late and they're way behind and they're not explaining much to a public about this. They're not exactly going through a long process of consensus building before they get to this point and we know there's been lots of tensions between the provinces the federal government and the municipalities. There's been a lot of criticism. A lot of churning in this and so here we are. This is the first major western democracy to go down this path. And it's very interesting. What what they're experimenting to do. But it's very uncertain Is If this is gonNA work. And if people are going to comply and whether the economy can be stabilized and whether the infection rates can be old moderated to some degree to create some space on an health system that is on the edge of collapse. That's sort of where we are. It's amazing to watch from a distance and it will have lessons for that will inform us if things get out of control in Washington state or anywhere else in this country so this is what I wanted to ask both of you as we watch this unfold Today Spain suspended at Parliament because one of its members is infected with cove nineteen Norway slashed three thousand flights because of the disease here in the United States. Were battling this hour by hour. What can we learn from what's going on in Italy and what we're seeing in Europe? What we're seeing is a many different governments managing this in different ways. And so I think that sort of gives this. There's now becoming very much of an ad hoc mechanism. This is not a huge amount of watching the European Union itself. There's not a lot of there's coordination conversation but really the governments have to take these steps and it's their healthcare system on the line their border protection and control I think what we're seeing is. Because Italy was unaware of how rapidly this was going through the spread. Now it's now out and so every country is managing this differently Some that are I would argue the least affected countries today. Poland the Czech Republic. They're taking incredibly aggressive steps right now Which would not argue for the cases that we are seeing the United Kingdom is taking a much more measured approach although their numbers are much lower. But they know this is going to be Spread but they are managing this. They're sort of their three phases. There's there's really a concern not to get ahead of themselves leaving the experts moving forward. You have Germany. Spain France sort of moving you know suspending universities and large gatherings and managing the border so to say other than that France Spain Germany or at take off as right now so I would argue. Certainly France is an and Spain Germany. I'm still watching carefully and then I put the Netherlands in the UK again. The case are just lower twenty five percent. They are which is why they are. They are anticipating right now. This growing effort. What again Just taking again. The example of the United Kingdom the National Health Service is. This is the seasonal stress period. Where again because of seasonal flu so this is hitting on top of a very stressed healthcare system. They may not have as they may not have doctors to be able to do this. You're absolutely right. I think this is a little under appreciated in the Iran example And of course we have examples here of of Self `isolation. For members of Congress this starts paralyzing the institutions that have to make decisions about whether that's economic stimulus whether that's institutions That are responding to it. So it'll be interesting to watch as parliament's may have to suspend the European Parliament didn't Habits Movement to Strasbourg Because staff have been infected so again watching the the head of the Italian Democratic Party. has been diagnosed with the krona virus. So this starts seeping into the political fabric and decision making you know there are six members of Congress who are self quarantine. Most of them are tied back to the CPAC incident. Right the Republican gathering and serve it in public action. Right group Six members of Congress and Some of whom were proximate to the president in that same period so it raises all these issues around it. You know this gets right up to the edge of the president erases all the issues around campaigning. For Democrats and Republicans But in in the point were making heather about the disruptions of parliaments are you you were making this point also Andrew there's discussions right now actively within within US Congress about Taking the recesses that are on the On the boards coming up and extending them so that you could have congress out for a for much longer period of time in order to try and go about managing it in that fashion but just just to add the. There's a an an election in Poland for the Polish president elect may tent President Duda who's running for reelection has just announced he's not going to know suspending rallies. That's an election for. May Ten the Polish president he's spending not holding rallies For his reelection effort so this is going to start locking Germany The Christian Democratic Union is holding their party convention at the end of April to decide their new leader Big questions about whether that would be held So again this will start impacting the electoral processes at an ass. To and you have to wonder. We're in primary season for the Democrats right now and you have to wonder. Is it GonNa Affect turnout are people are gonNA come and turn out to vote in? Primaries are the two candidates remaining The Democratic primary. Or are they going to be shaking hands or are they going to be going to rallies? Is President Trump? Who you know pretty much. Every day on his schedule has a rally. Is he going to eliminate the rallies from his schedule? And what's the ethics and public health wisdom of continuing to have mass rallies which could totally contradicts the logic of social distancing right right well so far. Our politicians president trump Joe Biden Bernie. Sanders seemed to be following. Cdc Protocols so we'll have to wait and see this carries over into all sorts of things right they The Conference Basketball Tournaments the NC double A. March madness is coming March. Madness is upon us. we've got all of these Moments in time where you're saying tens of thousands of people are going to be convened in closed quarters into confined congregational settings whether it's for pulp political purposes or for sports entertainment or for whatever. And when do we begin to to insist that these events be suspended? And what's the? What are the rules and guidance? Going to be right. I mean you have fifteen thousand fifteen twenty thousand fans every night. Nba Arena Just the other day. Lebron James Sang Fans. No no vans. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not gonNA show them play and so and and I think president trump thinks the same thing. If there's not going to be anybody the rallies I'm not gonNA show up. I'm GonNa stay home and watch TV so it's interesting watching the Italian case. So how did they begin? They first started with the fan lists sports events And then they stopped them completely to interest areas pollution to stop all soccer. Which you know. That's pretty in the Italian context. That's a pretty profound absolute right. Well in rugby matches just cancelled In the UK Saint Patrick's Day parades and gatherings have been cancelled in Dublin. just saw. We're in Boston. Northern Ireland leaders are now not traveling this week to Washington to participate in in those festivities So yes I mean. We're rethinking everything where we really serious when they cancelled the Saint Patrick's Day parade in New Orleans. You'll know that it's really serious if they in Boston. Yeah I mean it. Just if they cancel it. It's not bigger than Boston. But if they cancel it the you'll know the seriousness getting back to your question around. What are the lessons for us here? Coming out of Italy. Yeah we're going to be. I think cogitate chewing that over. And then in the coming days as we watch things unfolding and of course coming in late is bad right. Coming in early is good coming in very aggressively early getting the public to understand what you're trying to do not repeating the mistakes that the. Italians are not coming in half baked in a sudden crash way in the middle of the weekend in the middle of the night is poor weight at sort of wind public confidence and trust. You could look at the Italian case in. Say the solutions are going to have to be at a very high level making full use of the powers and authority of the state in order to solve this because localities get swamped provinces. Get swamped that. Of course for US begs the question. How's that going to happen in our system because our system so decentralized public health is localities and municipalities and states and at the level of this administration it has. It's it's chaotic. And so when Governor? Inslee is they're facing a crisis in Washington and saying you know this is this could very rapidly get much bigger than I am what I think turning the other thing for me is it's others also get a vote and how they're going to manage this so it's not just the country itself I'm thinking of of the Israeli government's decision to you. Know anybody anyone coming in the euro anyone coming into to Israel's quarantine for fourteen days and so I think this is some way this. Is You know the Austrian Italian case. You may want to continue to do a different type of businesses usual but other countries will also have a say in how they're going to manage it and this is where this this international coordination becomes so vital. So we're not doing this at Hawk and then you know first mover advantage while if someone does something draconian does everyone have to follow that and so that's when it gets very uneven as far as implementation and I wonder you know? Are we taking it seriously enough? In the United States I mean for instance you know here in DC We've had several inflection points. We've had the CPAC conference that you mentioned before APEC APEC conference Here in Washington I think all of us know someone who is a member of the Church and Georgetown whose minister has been Infected so you know. Are we taking this seriously enough or there was a Reuters? Ipsos poll came out the last week which was interesting. It showed four and ten. Democrats believed that this was a threat that it posed a threat to the country. The Corona virus outbreak two in ten Republicans believed posed a threat. Now you can look at those numbers and say twice as many Democrats take this seriously then. Republicans you can also look at those numbers say sixty percent of Democrats still. Don't take it very seriously. And eighty percent of Republicans on taking. This was appalled fairly large pole. A lot of people are taking it seriously as ago released just a few days ago so that tells me that. There's a bipartisan consensus of. Not taking it seriously enough well. We need a bipartisan consensus. That individuals now have to take responsibility. I like the you know the the British. Keep calm and keep washing your hands. Keep following those guidelines. Avoid things that you don't have to do take responsibility but that has to be a bipartisan. Message this is serious but you deal with it calmly confidently but you take it very very seriously. There's one important thing that I think offers hope. Which is you know last week. Members of Congress in both chambers and both parties came together and very rapidly expedited. The eight point three billion dollar emergency supplemental and got it the President's desk and got it signed into law right now. You can look at that and say that is four to six weeks late and why did it take us so long because the that as a as a milestone? That should have happened a month at least a month earlier but it happened nonetheless last week and so in a as a reflection of consciousness and bipartisanship it was an important signal of that reality and last week when we were up on the hill and the week before interacting with members of Congress. We testified at the full committee on Homeland Security. We had breakfast with the Aspen. Group with twenty members of Congress was for your report for the commission strengthen America's health security but we had a mix of Democrats and Republicans in both of those events and they were deadly serious about all of this and they were being civil and cordial with one another so all of this sort of partisanship in toxic politics. That you see in the airwaves was not translating in those contexts. Into that type of behavior you had them asking very very detailed questions of the experts. Who were who were there And engaging in a very serious deliberation at the same time that this legislation was moving forward. The other thing I'd say is this morning. You PICK UP THE WASHINGTON POST. Four of the five stories on the front page are on this topic and then you look at the banner of stories inside and there's another ten stories inside one day in the Washington Post so the flood of stories and you watch last night. I watched news hour and then. Nbc Half of the stories. Half of the airtime was concerning this topic. So it's relentless the coverage has been pretty extraordinary. I mean the topic has become everything everywhere all the time somewhere along the way that the data is going to change from two in ten or four hundred ten to something more in the majority where on both Democrats and Republicans do you think. The media's hyping it up too much I think there's a little bit of drama in the that you should expect in the in the twenty four seven cable ecosphere. I mean you look back at at what happened with a bowl in the fall of fourteen which was also in a political cycle and the key cable networks fueled hysteria and panic accompanied by other things. Trump's tweeting White House fumbling the fact that Ebola was scary as hell. We had cases outbreaks in Dallas. And we had all the other drama was going on. So there's some measure in which the overheated media gets out there. But in my own estimation this is truly dangerous when we don't appreciate it so I don't say the media stoking this and it's less serious than what it may seem. I have the opposite response in Zang. Yeah the media's perhaps stoking allow fear but people need to sit up and take this very seriously much more so than they do have has so many angles to it. So there's the economic angle to IT AND AGAIN YOU'RE STEVE. You're mentioning about the stimulus here. Italy just today had to increase the emergency Stimulus package to ten billion euros there now. Suspending mortgage payments They're I mean they're now trying to grapple with an economic crisis a health crisis which we don't want to translate into a political crisis where government institutions become paralysed or or so polarized That they can't Do their function. So I think that in some ways is the is the media saturation. There's so many different elements of this. It's the international stories that domestic stories economic story. It's a health story It's a it's a personal story of whether that's You know elderly patients in a Seattle nursing home or on a cruise ship. You know I think all of that just feeds into that. Never ending cycle where. It's hard to get balanced and making sure you're well prepared. Well armed But also again managing through this in a confident way not You know you're so physically are upset that you're not going to be able to think calmly and rationally economic shocks from yesterday here and globally were astonishing and it's translated into the president going to the hill this morning to talk to Senate Republicans about what are going to be. The fiscal stimulus options. And what other tax cuts and and they've already did the big monetary. They dropped by two fifty base points last week at the Fed. The biggest drop since the. Oh eight Oh nine crisis so to answer your question of our people beginning to take this seriously i. The accompanying economic crisis is fully in front of US particularly for the transportation industry. The airline industry The Shipping Industry Tourism for Italy. Speak more specific to that absolutely devastating. Of course our northern Italy is the economic engine for northern Italy manufacturing forty percent of Italian exports come from northern Italy so again devastating sort of two different ways on already very weak Italian banking System and so not a lot of room for for error In that setting as well so our airlines canceling flights and hiring freezes and so on so we'll have to watch this very closely. Thank you both for being here today to be continued. Thank you if you enjoy this podcast. Check out our larger suite of CSIS podcasts from into Africa the Chessboard China Power Aids Twenty Twenty the trade guys. Smart Women Smart Power and more you can listen to them all on major streaming platforms like itunes and spotify visit CIS dot. Org SLASH PODCASTS. To See our full catalog.
NPR News: 04-05-2020 4PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Barbara Klein. More than three hundred. Twenty Five Thousand Corona Virus Infections or confirmed in the. Us Ninety two hundred people have died. But W S H US Charles Lane reports New York Governor Andrew. Cuomo has new numbers today. That could offer a glimmer of hope. The number of new patients to the hospital is down by half. The number of new patients admitted to the. Icu is also down. The number of new patients needing a ventilator is holding steady governor. Cuomo says the state could be very near the apex of the curve or the apex could be a plateau and beyond that plateau right now. We won't know until you see the next few days. Go up go down. Call my warns that some hospitals are just days away from running out of personal protective equipment. The state received over one thousand ventilators yesterday. Which if this dip holds up will last less than a week for NPR news. I'm Charles Lane in New York. Health workers in a part of Georgia that emerged as a corona virus hotspot or cautiously celebrating advances grant blankenship of Georgia public broadcasting reports by the numbers the corona virus outbreak near the southwest. Georgia town of Albany is among the worst in the world and so officials at Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital. There found it noteworthy last Friday. When for the first time since the start of the crisis they released more recovered. Kovic nineteen patients from the hospital. Then they admitted that before they released only the second patient theater to have survived ventilator support wheeled out of the hospital to cheers hospital officials. Caution it will take more time to call this. The sort of a trend. Meanwhile infections continue to rise across the rest of Georgia and the south for NPR news. I'm grant blankenship and make Georgia. Italy's death toll from Cova nineteen continues to rise but NPR SYLVIA POHJOLA reports Italian authorities say the increase in the last twenty. Four hours was the lowest in more than two weeks. The total number of cases has reached almost one hundred twenty nine thousand while the death. Toll Rose Sunday by five hundred twenty five. The lowest number since March nineteenth authorities also stress a further drop in the number of patients in intensive care units points to an expected decline in the epidemic in the near future but Italian officials are divided over whether to require people to wear face masks. The governor of the Lamberti region the Italian epidemics epicenter has issued an order requiring everyone to wear a mask when leaving their homes. Meanwhile the head of the Civil Protection Agency says he doesn't wear one because he believes observing. Social distancing is an effective protection against infection so people jolie. Npr news row this is NPR defense secretary. Mark S Spurs ordering everyone on department property to wear cloth face coverings when they can't maintain six feet of social distance the guidance applies to all service members dod civilians and contractors. The order comes after President and commander and chief trump said. He likely will not wear facemask. Many Christians are celebrating Palm Sunday and the start of Holy week but they're not necessarily gathering as NPR's Daniel Estrin reports from Jerusalem. The annual Palm Sunday procession there was canceled. Palm. Sunday marks the entry of Jesus into Jerusalem and Kickoff Holy week leading up to Easter next Sunday. Usually on this day tens of thousands of Christian worshippers and pilgrims from around the world marched from the Mount of Olives to the walled city of Jerusalem carrying palm fronds and olive branches. But not this year a small group of clergy held Palm Sunday services which were broadcast on some Palestinian TV channels. Public gatherings are prohibited to try to stop the spread of the corona virus which has infected more than eight thousand Israelis and two hundred Palestinians Daniel Estrin NPR news Jerusalem. A commemoration of the tenth anniversary of one of the country's worst mining disasters had to be canceled today because of the pandemic a public gathering had been planned to remember the twenty nine men who died at West. Virginia's upper big branch mine instead. There were individual and silent prayers. I'm Barbara Klein NPR news.
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NPR News: 11-04-2020 9PM ET
"Live from npr news. I'm jack speer. President trump is asking the supreme court to step into the presidential election by deciding which votes count in pennsylvania as npr's nina totenberg reports the court twice in recent weeks declined to disturb the decision by the state supreme court that allowed votes postmarked by election. Day to be counted if receive for three days after that. The court's previous decisions one on a tie vote the other unavo- two five to three refuse to block the decision of the pennsylvania supreme court and its interpretation of the state constitution but lawyers for trump. Note that the high court still has before it a petition seeking full review of the question and it's now asking the justices to intervene in much the way the court did in bush versus gore twenty years ago given the election results the vote in pennsylvania may well determine the next president of the united states the trump campaign said and the us supreme court not the pennsylvania. Supreme court should have the final say nina totenberg npr news washington four states including pennsylvania. Remain uncalled at this hour. Meanwhile the presidential and senate race in north carolina may not be called for more than a week. Is that state waits for the last few absentee mail ballots to arrive. Steve harrison from member station w. f. a. e. has the story president trump leaves in north carolina. By about seventy seven thousand votes and republican. Thom tillis is in front of democrat cal cunningham by some ninety six thousand votes in the state's high profile senate race all precincts have reported their results but the state board of elections says there are as many as one hundred and seventeen thousand. Absentee mail ballots could be returned and count it some of those ballots. Were likely never mailed back and some of the people who requested mail ballots likely voted on election day but with biden having won nearly seventy percent of male votes. So far. it's possible. A surge of late-arriving mail ballots could change the outcomes. The state elections director says the final results may not be known until a week from friday for npr news. I'm steve harrison in charlotte while democrats face mounting odds in terms of gaining control of the us senate. Gop isn't quite ready to declare victory either. Republicans i've fought off some notable democratic efforts. They victory coming as maine republican. Susan collins held onto her seat philadelphia. Police have released bodycam footage and audio related. The police killing of walter wallace junior last week while i was killed after family members and neighbors called requesting help member station. Whyy laura bench off has more. The recordings consist of two body cam videos. Several nine one one calls and police dispatch audio. The videos show police shooting wallace as he crosses the street in front of them. Turn to the side. Family members are heard yelling. He's mental and screaming at police. After he falls to the ground wallace's family and city officials waited to release the recordings until after the election. The laura bench off on wall street today. The dow up three hundred and sixty seven points. This is npr. Whoever is declared the victor in the presidential race that person will have to deal with global pandemic that has claimed more than two hundred and thirty three thousand. Us lives and in fact in more than nine point. Four million americans with colder weather moving in many parts of the country case numbers are showing no signs of easing total number of cases in the us. Today rose by a record one hundred thousand. Donald trump's presidential term ends january twenty unless he wins reelection between now and then health experts. Say another one hundred thousand americans could die if major changes in policy instituted. The italian government has approved a new round of month-long restrictions to curb a surgeon. Covid nineteen infections there. Npr's sylvia pohjola reports. Many measures are to the hardest hit parts of the country. The new measures include a nationwide curfew from ten. Pm to five am the closure of museums and exhibitions and on weekends. Shopping centers will be shut. The country has been divided into zones. According to the gravity of the spread of covid nineteen cases in the red zone which includes italy's industrial heartland lamberti people will be allowed to leave their homes only for work health reasons and emergencies bars and restaurants and most shops will be closed. Twenty four seven in the orange zone. People can move freely within their towns and cities but not beyond shops will remain open but not bars restaurants and in the green zone only nationwide curbs will be in effect so people jovi. npr news. rome futures prices closed higher oil up dollar and forty nine cents a barrel to end the session at thirty nine fifteen a barrel. I'm jack speer npr news.