20 Episode results for "Lake Filled"

Restoring the Musical City of New Orleans After Katrina

Aerial America

02:54 min | 1 year ago

Restoring the Musical City of New Orleans After Katrina

"By two thousand five there was no city in America as vulnerable as New Orleans. It was literally surrounded by water later but without adequate barriers to keep that water out. Yumi event of Catastrophe Lake born lies. East of New Orleans within hours after Hurricane Katrina came ashore a wall of water primarily from the lake filled city canals and then broke through floodwalls rushing into the lower ninth ward and nearby communities wiping houses right off their foundations from above off sites that became headline news August. Two thousand five. After Katrina came ashore appear amazingly unchanged by the storm the ICONIC SUPPO now stands on dry ground and once again hosts home games of the New Orleans Saints Commuters have returned to the crescent. Listen city connection. It was across this bridge. That hundreds fled on foot after the storm subsided hoping finally to get out of town but they were quickly turned and backed by a wall of armed policemen. Many claimed it was an act of racism and that the police were only trying to keep New Orleans. African American evacuees out out of the cities primarily white suburbs. Meanwhile one section of the Ninth Ward is bouncing back in typically colorful New Orleans style. Awesome these homes. Were the brainchild of actor. Brad Pitt. After visiting this devastated community he vowed to help his make it. Right Foundation brought together architects from around the world to design and build dozens of eco-friendly flood. Visist and houses so families from the lower ninth ward could return home with dignity powered by solar energy to of these homes or the same. The foundation is also helping rebuild streets and gardens in a city where music is king. It's not surprising that one of the first first and biggest post Katrina projects was to help displaced musicians in the upper ninth ward natives. Harry connick junior and Brentford Marcellus us together. With habitat for humanity built musician's village. More than seventy new houses clustered around a new community centre. Since it was built this artist community has helped raise spirits and hope and inspired others to return and rebuild the Ninth Award and other hard-hit neighbors musicians in New Orleans are leading the charge.

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Little Hedgehog and Bebe Under the Same Sky: Part One

Little Stories for Tiny People

17:03 min | 11 months ago

Little Hedgehog and Bebe Under the Same Sky: Part One

"This is Ria. Welcome to little stories for tiny. I have is to you. It has been so long and I know some of you have been slightly Vac St- shall we say by my absence? Okay. Let me explain I I was carried away by dragons to the enchanted forest. Then they dropped me onto a ferry on its way to fairy islands and then Okay that's not really what I've been up to, but that would have been interesting right? The truth is not as interesting. The truth is it has been very challenging to find the time and space and why it's over these last few months to sit down on my metal stool in my studio with my studio spiders scowling at me from above. Fair. And speak lots of words into my microphone. Like I'm doing right now. Life does not always follow the pattern we imagine it will. If any of US didn't know that before this year. He's certainly know it now. But I really missed telling you stories. So I found a way. Let's just get to our story. It's part one. Of Little Hedgehog and bb under the same sky. Take it away a dem- aliko. There are no pictures you have to imagine the pictures in your mind. You can imagine them however you want. Okay. Here we go. New Luck fantabulous able. If we can get a critical mass of hedgehogs to use that word, we might be able to get it into dictionaries within a few years, but we will have to document this conversation. Also, we have to commit to regular usage of it in our own personal lexicon soon. And thank you for the compliment. Little hedgehog and bb her best friend volt time we're in little hedgehogs borough. It was a Wednesday two minutes earlier. Little Hedgehog had suggested that she and beebe trade clothes for the evening. Bb Do you think we can fool my dad do you think he will believe you are me and I am you I believe we could fool my neighbor sues because she is not observant. We do have different colored goals though so I'm not sure your dad would believe but little hedgehog convinced her to try now bb stood before her decked out any blinding yellow me on vest knee socks printed with smiling monkeys a tasteful Paisley scarf and a Unicorn wristwatch little hedgehog do you think these accessories? Clash also I do need to leave soon, remember my mom and I are about to go on a survivalist. You Never WanNa be too matchy matchy beaten. The goal is not to impress it is to confuse if my dad is staring at your accessories, he won't notice that you are not me that makes perfect sense. I get it now now it's my turn little hedgehog quickly removed her sparkly headband, her sequined Vest Bright Blue Bowtie, purple socks and her jangly bracelets. Okay. Vivey now tell me I look van Deb your durable. Okay BB. You'll look Fan Tab Eudora. Seeing Q.. My mom tells me I look competent and effective every single day. That's my voice. Little head shock and BB GIGGLED MR hedgehog popped his head in the room. Hey. What are you up to? Oh. Hello Dad said BB HELLO MR hedgehog little jog Mr Hedgehog blinked he took in a strange scene before him and then decided he wasn't going to engage with all that look don't know what's going on here but doesn't really matter bb don't you need to get going soon your mom wanted me to get you home for a survival expedition. Did I hear that right? You're correct Mr Hedgehog. I cannot be late for departure. It is not every night that along with ones, mom one gets to take part in a long standing family tradition of being dropped in the middle of nowhere and having to quickly establish a borough access to water our supplies and other critical aspects of survival in the wilderness using only ones with and skills honed for years of careful practice. Dad squinted. Dow Jones. Von. Busy thrilling adventure I am so excited for you to go on your survivalist expedition. Maybe you will discover an underground cave with a magical sparkling lake filled with Moore jogs. Yes Moore hedgehogs, underwater hedgehogs with fish tails instead of pause. My mom says they don't exist but I choose to believe little hedgehog and BB giggled Phoebe I'm wondering why you haven't mentioned this very exciting family tradition before. By my count have mentioned it forty seven times over the last several years. Little head shock would you like to gaze upon this postcard? My Aunt Merle letter sent me from an undisclosed location in the wilderness during her survivalist excursion. Yes please little HEDGEHOG WILL To try these berries gathered by my cousin clements, our family has a tradition of doing survivalist excursions and he had some pigeons deliver these from his undisclosed, off grade location. Yum theories. THANK YOU BE A. Little Hedgehog I'm getting excited. Can you tell my own survivalist trip with my mom is only two years in seventeen weeks away plan is part of our long standing family tradition of being dropped in the middle of the wilderness with only our wits and skills honed from years of careful practice to serve. US. Well V. Aim just getting air member is taking a stroll down memory lane with you. As they prepared to leave the burrow little hedgehog disappeared into her closet and emerged holding something behind her trickles bb. Do you remember last month when we got up super duper early at sunset and we went to the pond with our paints and you did that mouse's portrait I believe his name was Jim, Burson Hefley he was upset I didn't paint him with more for, but he did not have more for, and I aim for realism in my artwork. Remember after you painted Jim, Persson League we big flowers together and the way home you asked me little hedgehog or are your plans for these freshly picked blossoms and I said, Oh baby you'll find out some day. I, remember well, it's someday now. Little Hedgehog revealed her paws. She was holding an enormous book. She passed it to bb BB, opened it and flip through pages and pages filled with dried pressed flowers. It's my latest collection. I want you to. You can flip through and remember speaking flowers together. This delights me. I will pack it in my backpack alongside my survival handbooks and my first aid kit and my wine. Little hedgehog clapped her teensy pause together and did a twirl. It was dad I. Think it's time we get home already did to trill Mr Hedgehog. The two friends alongside little hedgehogs dad stepped into the darkness and scampered towards species borough as they left beebe glanced over to the precise spot where they had hit in their time capsule weeks earlier, she smiled to herself noting the ground looked undisturbed. She sniffed the air satisfied that there were no crows in the vicinity. The forest was quiet except for the sounds of night creatures. More. When they reached beebees borough. Bb gave little hedgehog a hug. I will miss you baby and I shall miss you an equal measure. Don't worry little Hedgehog Levy said as they let go of one another I've already brainstormed several reliable ways in which we can maintain, and perhaps even enrich our friendship from a distance bb gave a small bow in Mr Hedgehogs Direction I'm GonNa Miss. You baby won't be the same without you appearing out of the shadows when I'm least expecting it don't worry Mr Hedgehog I have my ways dad gave in uneasy smile. Beebees mom appeared at the burrow entrance bb and her mom were not begun hugging instead upon reaching one another day launched into their secret handshake. Who was complicated? Little Hedgehog in her dad watched with great interest as the mother daughter pair completed their elaborate greeting ritual. Used to be longer. This isn't a bridge I. Dad Put a CAU-. Around the head shots trickles as they watched bb and her mom wave disappear inside their borough. Hedgehog and dad turned to go. Little Hedgehog I have something for you. Baby. You scared me I felt your inside phoebe smiled air little hedgehog I have one too. It will help us remember how much joy we experience together bb handed Little Hedgehog a photo book. As she flipped through it she saw page after page of photos of them laughing and. Together. Think you be little hedgehog wiped a tear from her eye. Then be turned and scampered her borough her glow in the dark neon invest growing faint in the darkness until it disappeared altogether. At the end of the night. Dad Little Hedgehog in the bed she looked out her window. She could see the sky turning pink at the tree line. She Yawn. Yes little hedgehog. BBS looking out her window right now. Could be. I like that we're both under the same sky. Me Too. Little Hedgehog watched Z. Pinkish grey cloud drifted above. Dead, dead dead cloud looks just like a lizard with Pat. Do you think BBC's it. I bet she. Yes. Dad. down. Little Hedgehog. Was Asleep he side watched his funny little daughters, chest rise and fall. For the first time, he noticed the photo book BV Had Given Her. Tucked tightly beneath her paws. Dad's smiled and kissed little hedgehogs forehead. then. He slipped out of the room. Off To make himself one last cup of tea. Before. This story is not over. Little hedgehog and bb we'll have to figure out how to deal with being far apart. That's something many of us have been going through for months. There are no easy answers. It can be hard. We will take up the story at some point and see how they've handled the distance between them. This story is coming out in August of twenty twenty. This month marks five years since I started little stories tiny people. I want to thank all of you for listening for appreciating my work and for sharing it with others five years ago. I had no expectation that anyone would listen to my stories. I. Simply wanted to create a place where I could put all of my ideas. Right focus my imagination where I could grow my story garden and I kept going. Many listeners have reached shouts me saying that my stories have inspired them to write their own stories. That is so rewarding to here. We need people to be creative. We need people to tell their stories. So please keep making your own things keeping creative, keep writing, keep drawing, keep recording your own podcast. And if you love doing it don't stop ever. Little stories for tiny people is written performed and produced by me Pector my in House Tech Director Peter K. runs my website and puts my stories on the Internet for all of you to enjoy. Special things to Edina liable for the super important reminder message at the beginning and thank you to Cohen Evelyn. Milly Henley and Lucy for providing the nearly professional quality. Sound effects used in this horry. If you love the PODCAST, please share it with all nice. That are in want of more I anyone named Jim Burston all wilderness enthusiasts those who both live off grid but also have an Internet connection and share it with your friends who might just need a good story. I'm going to be putting out new stories as I am evil to. Thank you. As always. For listening in.

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Sitting Bull

Bedtime History: Inspirational Stories for Kids

12:05 min | 8 months ago

Sitting Bull

"Welcome to bedtime history. Hello this is break. I hope you had a good week here in Arizona, we had fall break. So cute were off school and we were able to spend some time together as a family. We drove to the northern part of Arizona to a lake called Lake Powell. Lake Pals pretty interesting because it's a huge man made lake the Colorado River runs through it, and once it just a river but a dam was created which slowed the river until the lake filled up. Now the water passing through the damn is used to create electricity. This process is called Hydro Electric Power. From the lake the Colorado River runs through the grand. Canyon. At the lake, we played together on the beach and explored the area with paddle boards. It was an awesome adventure. I posted some pictures at bedtime history stories, dot com if you want to check them out. A big. Thank you and shout out to our newest owner a beer from Singapore, if you don't know where Singapore is Southeast Asia far across the Pacific from the United States. If, you'd like to donate bedtime history, visit our website and click the donate link to donate on Patriot on. Also remember we have videos on Youtube check out our youtube channel and website bedtime history stories dot com for more information about the podcast now onto our episode. Close Your eyes and imagine here in the middle of battle in the American wilderness all around you American soldiers dressed stiff blue jackets, load their guns, and fire at the enemy running at them are native American warriors dressed in loincloths and leather there yelling charging the soldiers with weapons raised they clash in battle and fight for Roche ously, around you echo the sounds of metal clashing on metal gunfire and people crying out. Then he turned around here, I catch a peaceful site. There in the middle of the fight scene sits a native man with his legs crossed. He sitting silently smoking a peace pipe while men fight all him. This man is one of the famous American. Indians sitting bull. Sitting. Bull was born around eighteen thirty one. He was one of the Hunk Papa People Lakota Sioux tribe that lived in the Great Plains area in what is now known as North and south. Dakota. When he was born, his family called him jumping badger. Leaders parents changed his name he was quiet and deliberate, and they didn't think jumping badger fit him deliberate means careful and cautious. His parents gave him the nickname slow instead and he was called this as a child. Slows father was the chief which meant someday, he would be the chief of his people. When he turned ten slow killed his first buffalo hunting buffalo is very dangerous but the tribe depended on buffalo for their survival they eat their meat and use their skins for clothes and shelter. Slows family was proud of his first buffalo kill and celebrated to honor him? When he was fourteen slow and others from his tribe snuck into an enemy's village and stole food and other items. This is called a raid and was common for tribes in the Great Plains to fight and steal things from each other for survival. Because of slows bravery during the raid, his father gave up his own name and gave it to his son from then on slow became known as sitting bull. Around, this time the government of the United States wanted settlers to move into the western states even though sitting bull's people already lived there to settle means to make a permanent home. This meant that Sioux Lakota tribes would have to leave and find a new place to live even though they had lived on these lands for many years but sitting Bolas family refused to leave and fought against the government and the people who tried to take over their land. The government sent the army to fight sitting bull and his people. As a young man, he became famous for his fighting skills and people all over the United States heard about him and we're afraid because of the stories they heard about him. In eighteen seventy, two, the northern Pacific railroad was trying to build a railroad across the United States. It ran through sitting bull's land. So he in the Su- people were determined to block it. When they tried the US army was called in to try and remove them in the conflict quickly turned into a battle during the battle sitting bull, who is now a middle aged chief walked into the middle of the field where they were fighting and sat down in front of the US soldiers he invited several other tribesmen to join him. He and his friend sat in the field and had a long slow smoke from tobacco pipe while watching people battle around them. Legend says that after finishing his pipe sitting bull carefully cleaned it and then walked off without showing any fear he was very brave. During the eighteen sixties sitting bull continued to fight against settlers encroaching on Sioux land, he and his tribesmen attacked military outposts and stole livestock or farm animals, her attack, the soldiers living there his group of men were very brave but he knew that it wouldn't be enough to keep back the US army. So he went and spoke to leaders of the tribes nearby and together they worked as one group. The LAKOTA Sioux they decided to have just one leader in an eighteen, sixty, nine sitting bull became their new leader. The group continued to grow and by the mid eighteen seventies, they also included warriors from the Cheyenne in Arpaio tribes even though sitting bull is mostly remembered as a warrior, he was also a type of holy man. He was believed to have the gift of prophecy or the ability to see the future. Sitting bull once had a vision or dream that the soup people were soon going to have a great victory in battle shortly after that the prophecy came true. In eighteen seventy, six, a lieutenant colonel by the name, of George A custer and his soldiers road out against the suit battle they were known as the Seventh Cavalry, the attack sitting bull and his warriors but they were inspired by sitting bull's vision, and even though they were outnumbered by customers army, the sue people won the battle against over two hundred soldiers. This became known as the battle of little big horn. Sitting Bull's nephew white bowl and another warrior named crazy horse fought bravely at the battle of Little Big Horn and became famous for their victory against custer and the Seventh Cavalry? But, of course, the US Army was not happy about losing the battle instead of backing down, they sent an army of twice as many soldiers to fight sitting bull. They wanted to push the native her first nations people off the land and force them onto reservations. Reservations were an area of land set aside for them to live on instead of the land the settlers wanted, but sitting bull refused to leave his own land and move to the reservations instead in May eighteen seventy seven, he led a group of his people to Canada, where he spent four years hiding out. Sadly though the buffalo and the area disappeared. Because Buffalo or what has people needed to survive they almost starved. Sitting bull and his people left their camp in Canada and moved back to the United States a few years later their camp was attacked and sitting bull and his followers surrendered to the US army. In North Dakota. By this time sitting bull was an older man. He spent two years in prison and later was sent to live on a reservation at standing rock. He lived on that reservation for the rest of his life. But sitting bull was famous when he got out of prison, many people heard stories about his fighting skills and admired him for his bravery. When they met him, they were willing to pay two dollars for his autograph. He got permission to leave the reservation to go on tour as his own exhibition or entertainment show when sitting bull was at a stopover in Minnesota he saw starring any Oakley the famous sharpshooter. Sitting Bull was very impressed with her gun shooting skills. He introduced himself in hand. Any Oakley became friends. He gave her the nickname little sure shot and called her his daughter rumor has it that sitting bull gave any Oakley a pair of moccasins he had worn during the battle of little big horn as a gift in June eighteen eighty five, the showman, William. Buffalo. Bill cody hired sitting bull to perform in his famous wild west show sitting bull was paid fifty dollars a week to wear his full chiefs Wa- retire and write a horse during the show's opening scene. He considered the job and easy way to earn money and help audiences learn about his people and how difficult their lives had become. But. Some audience members didn't like sitting bull because they knew he had killed white soldiers during battle sometimes, audiences cruelly booed sitting bull and threw things at him. Sitting bull soon got tired of traveling and some of the mean crowds he faced and he missed his family. So he left the tour for good after its final show in October. Beginning in eighteen, eighty, nine, many native American or first nations people started talking about religion called the ghost dance. These people believe that spirit was going to come to Earth and removed the white people from the area where they lived allowing them to return to their old ways. The US authorities started to worry that sitting bull was going to use the ghost dance movement to lead his people to war against the white people they always knew that sitting bull resisted refused to follow their traditions sleigh believe he was likely to get involved and lead this movement against them. On December Fifteenth Eighteen Ninety police were sent to arrest sitting bull and bring him in for questioning. He refused to go with them. So the policemen dragged him from his cabin. The commotion caused a Large Group of sitting bull's followers to come and see what was going on. One of them fired a shot at the policeman setting off a gun battle in the confusion that followed more than a dozen people were killed including sitting bull. Sitting bull had many hard experiences in his life there's a lot we can learn from him. He showed great bravery from a young age while hunting in a battle. He was also able to stay very calm under stress and pressure. Have you ever practiced trying to stay calm when you feel afraid or angry. What works well for you. Know. It helps me to take deep breaths and try and clear my thoughts sometimes if I go outside or take a walk that helps to. Reacting to stress that way as much better than yelling or calling names or other things. We later regret it's completely normal to feel upset I often do. The question is how we will deal with those feelings. Sitting Bull showed us that even upsetting situations we can be calm sitting bull also fought for what he believed in and stayed close to his family and his tribe. Even when they were threatened and told to leave their lands, he refused he put himself in great danger to try and save his people sticking up for yourself, and your family is a very noble thing to do think of what you can do to take care of your family and the community in which you live like sitting bull we can all be leaders in our communities and families if we stick up for what we believe and for our loved ones, thanks for listening and be sure to tune in next time.

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Little Hedgehog and the Tunnel

Little Stories for Tiny People

25:57 min | Last month

Little Hedgehog and the Tunnel

"This is ria welcomes little stories for tiny people. I have i know now. My studio is currently filled with teacups. Given to me by my neighbor who was an antique teacup collector but recently decided to move to antarctica and couldn't take more than what she could fit in a backpack so she gifted me oliver teacups. And here we are. Don't worry it makes total sense. The teacups make it slightly crowded in my very small studio. So i had to invite the kind of guests who wouldn't need much room. Thankfully my very own basement is home to many such creatures namely camel crickets. If you aren't familiar with campbell crickets. How shall i describe them. They are terrifying. Sorry did i say terrifying. I meant charming. They urges so charming the way. You can't really see where they are because they blend into whatever thing they happen to be perched on like the floor or a laundry basket you intend to pick up then they leap at you any kind of of aggressively affectionate sort of way. Not in a way that would make you. I don't know shriek and run out of the room. Now i'll admit the camel crickets and i have had our differences. Mainly we've disagreed about whether they should in fact live in my basement eight and you think they should not live in my basement and a tend to think that they should so it's out of enormous generosity and willingness to mend fences on my part that i've invited one of these awfully lovely creatures to be my guest for this story so here he is all the way from my basement and tonio. The camel crickets welcome antonio. Yeah you can just sit yourself way over there. That's great now. Remember the one rule right okay. Good will be just fine as long as you don't know know know why. Why are you jumping. We talked about this. Okay but don't jump anywhere near the teacups. Why why did you. That was the one rule. No now i can't even see him blending carpet antonio as i've said we've had our differences. Oh there you are look into what. Let's just get to the story. Okay and just please nowhere jumping because if you leave around. While i'm telling the story. I won't be able to focus. Okay okay tiny people. I will deal with this challenging situation that i could not possibly have predicted for our story. Today is called little hedgehog and the tunnel. Let's get to it. Take it away simone while man. Dan now says he has them magazine. Da- picks in your mind. You can imagine ever you want okay. That's go- little hedgehog. Can you free me from this bulletin board. It was a saturday night. Little hedgehog and bb her best friend of all time were in little hedgehogs room earlier in the night as they were searching for fairies outside sessile little hedgehogs neighbor offered they may large cork bulletin board. He no longer needed all have to find a different place to display. All my catchall bill to tickets. Cecil said sessile was also hedgehog. His pet cricket sat on his shoulder blinking. Jemaine number eight doesn't much enjoy. The coke bulletin board is now right. Jemaine said glancing at his cricket. I don't enjoy it. No i prefer science fiction trilogy. Novels at jemaine sessile looked his neighbors so would you like it or not little hedgehog and bb nodded and clapped their team see pause together sessile brought out the bulletin board thank you. We're most grateful mr sessile now then feel us. we left off on page. Eighty seven of germain's choice of science fiction trilogy novel. Little hedgehog and bb dragged the bulletin board. All the way from cecil borough which was no small feat for two very tiny hedgehogs. They propped it up against a wall as bb stepped away from it. Her tiny foot rolled on top of a glow in the dark marble and she went flying backwards. Her practical sank into the cork of the bulletin board trapping. Her little hedgehog turn to see. Bb flailing her tiny pause as she remained to the board. Little hedgehog giggled. It was my secret plan to trap few on my board so you can never leave me. Again bbc smiled. Oh me oh my. I am adhere to this board made of sustainably sourced material as a prisoner of my cheerfully diabolical best friend. They both giggled. It's creative. i'll give you that. Dad was in the doorway. Although there are other ways to get bb to stay over little hedgehog. Hey dad good evening. Mr hedgehog habe dad. Can you help me freebie from this cork board. That attacked her without warning beebees smiled. Yes mr hedgehog. Please save me from this sinister bulletin board together. Little hedgehog in her dad carefully plucked. Bb's pickles from the cork. She sighed with relief. I convey to you. my sincerest. Thanks bb you have usually prickly percolates strong to. Why thank you mr hedgehog. I cannot take credit for the strength of my trickles. My mom says i come from a long line of strong trickled. Hedgehogs my great great. Great great aunt vidal lia once un pinched herself from beneath an itinerant hit with the strength of her pickles alone. She was one hundred and two at the time and she only had one leg as for the prickliness that is likely due to the teaspoon of bee pollen. I ingest in capsule form. Monday at twilight. Mr hedgehog peered at bb. Never change bb okay. Hey so i have some things. I need to do tonight so i'm gonna go do those. Try not to get yourself stuck to any more furniture okay. Bye-bye did or of wellness or hedgehog little hedgehog. Where do you think we should hang. This dangerous bulletin board bb asked as she picked up the glow in the dark marble. She'd slipped on and returned it to its pouch and the bookcase. Oh i know. Let's move a book over and put the bulletin for their that way when we feel the board with pictures of her adventures. I can see them for. My bid is a fall asleep. Excellent idea little hedgehog and bb began to push the bookcase with their tiny pause. it didn't budge bb. What you push with your extra strong pringles bb turned around and pressed her iron pickles against the bookcase. She gave one big push and the bookcase moved about a foot. Little hedgehogs is went wide with excitement. Here wait a minute. Little hedgehog scampered over bb. Oh what is that in the very spot where the bookcase had one stood before. Bb used her shockingly strong trickles to shift. It was the entrance to a tunnel. Little hedgehog and bbc stood on either side and stared into the deep dark of the tunnel. Where do you think it leaves. Maybe it's a portal to a magical world where all the trees grow those stocks that have the toes them toe socks. Yes and where hedgehogs ride on. Elephants can't read spiders thoughts. Maybe it's a portal to a magical realm where the animals where wooden clogs and live in yield. Diese you're maybe. It leads to an underground pond where there are little hedgehog and bbc came up with a few more guesses as to where the tunnel might lead a mushroom throat. Lozenge factory a honey badger anger management retreat then packed up some supplies for their travels. It was so obvious it didn't even require a discussion. They were headed into the tunnel as they left. Beebe grabbed the marble pouch off the book shelf and tucked it into her pickles. As soon as they were a few feet inside it became clear. They would not be reaching their destination anytime soon. Absolute darkness stretched out before them. There was nothing to see. They kept going at some point. They came upon a small bug heading in the same direction. Why hello greetings. The bug didn't respond. They tried again their greetings. The bug reached up and pulled off. Its headphones oh hi were you addressing me. Yes we were sorry. I was listening to an audio documentary about ignorance racks. Oh okay is it. The one called the rock that was magma before it was cool. Yeah that's the one the one that was produced by the same ferret. That made utter chaos. The definitive audio documentary about discord among others. Yep that's the one. I haven't heard it yet do. There is a moment of silence. We were wondering if you knew this tunnel leads. The bug blinked for example to lead to a magical land. Were hedgehogs frightened. Telepathic elephants and sparkly. Toa socks colonel. The trees or to an underground pond filled with moore hedgehogs or mushroom through factory or to a retreat or honey. Badgers learn to channel their enormous power intellect towards positive endeavors. Finally little hedgehog and bb fell silent up ahead. Day heard a loan cricket chirping inside the channels after what felt like minutes. The bugs spoke. This is a tunnel that that explains a lot. The bug nodded goodbye and put his headphones back on. Little hedgehog and bb exchanged a look then continued on. They traveled over slippery rocks at points. The tunnel narrowed so that they had to stoop to continue but at no point did they think about turning around at long last they heard voices ahead they also heard music and they stepped into the light. Little hedgehog and bb's is wind wide. The tunnel had opened up into an enormous cavern with an underground lake. Fake flap their teensy pause together with excitement. Engaged around in wonder peavy you. What is this place. It appears to be a cave lake complete with recreational water activities and a live band a small rat paddle by canoe singing as their dozen communities tracing through the water shimmering by the light of lanterns all along the banks of the lake a muskrat on an inner tube floated by eating a bright orange popsicles. A small rabbit dash passed on water. Skis pulled by some unseen creature. Swimming through the lake eight crow sped by on his kayak a band of rodent musicians performed at the lakes edge. Hey kids will can. I get you. Little hedgehog and bb turned to see a largish hedgehog standing behind a counter. We've got a canoe. Rentals inner tubes unicorn. Innertube snorkeling equipment kayaks and some scuba gear. But i probably stay away from that giving your size. Little hedgehog and bb blinked who's also doubles as my accounting office. So if you need your taxes done that for you to the hedgehog did a paw at a small sign that read. We also do taxes. Bb's is lit up all that sounds enchanting. We were just wondering if you a murder. Hedgehog buy new sheets only in my dreams skin only in my dreams will dig it. Inner do please. I will do the same. thank you. The hedgehog reached down and came up with two tiny life jackets and two inner tubes as they were getting themselves ready for the water. The bug from the tunnel appeared. He took office headphones and stared wool. The largest hedgehog turned to the bug. Hey kid what can i get you. You want to leave board. I've got one for your size. Also few you need your taxes done. I can do that for little. Hedgehog in bbc scampered over to the edge of the lake and launched their inner tubes. They floated out into the middle of the water. Dodging a large group of mice participating in a synchronized water dancing class. A graceful mouse dance. Teacher perched above them on e. paddleboarding directing near move beautiful. Just beautiful now pause. No no no. Don't stop sherpas up now jess baugh carlo. But a little more jazz in your boss please. Little hedgehog and bb giggled as they drifted towards the middle of the lake. It was the perfect night. It was almost too perfect with the music. The atmosphere the lake filled with happy animals lighting through the water. Are you thinking what. I'm thinking that it's strange. We've never known. There is a tunnel that went directly from your borough to an underground lake with water activity rental equipment any joyous atmosphere. Know that it doesn't seem possible for that. Sail boat over there to be sailing. Given that there is no wind inside this cavern yet. It is sailing and that presents a challenge to our current understanding of physics. No that that squirrel over there bears an uncanny resemblance to our gym teacher. Mr titles little hedgehog toward around to look at the squirrel. It was their gym teacher. Mr titles oh hey little hedgehog. Little hedgehog turned back. That was funny. Fidel wasn't what i was thinking. Okay well then. Maybe you were thinking that pop. Bb began to sink towards the surface of the water. Her innertube was rapidly deflating. She head popped it with her. Extremely strong unusually prickly prequels baby. I will rescue you. Little hedgehogs stuck a paul in the water and pedaled herself over to her friend. Phoebe was now bobbing gently. Thanks to her life jacket creole okay. I'm fine this was to be expected. Little hedgehog helped bb climb up on her inner tube. Bb carefully kept her pickles from pressing against the inflatable surface. So what were you thinking about little hedgehog. I was thinking. Little hedgehog said tracing a paw through the water. We are moorhead hawks now. Bb bb smiled. I believe we are. He'll little hedgehog. Do you think your dad. My toss be wondering where we little headshot bb. Mr hedgehog stared down at little hedgehog and bb from his perch. Honey paddleboard the music in the cave when silent because the bat had flown straight into the trumpet. The bat tumbled out cradling its head. Whoops sorry about that. The band struck up once more. Oh hi dad. Salutations bestir chop little hedgehog. You're supposed to tell me when you were planning to leave. The burrow. little hedgehog blinked. Technically there was no discrete. Point at which we left the borough mr head. The tunnel was in fact connected to the borough itself so really if you consider that mr hedgehog held up a paw thirty dad. I'm sorry. Mr chalk dad's side don't do it again. Then he looked around in wonder so you found the tunnel. This place used to be a jazz club. Weird wonder how they got. All is water in here. Mr hedgehog you used your frequent this establishment when it was jazz club. Dad chuckled. Well actually. I used to play the saxophone in my younger years. Little hedgehog in. Bb's is went wide for a moment. They both felt a glimmer of recognition. That mr hedgehog had in fact lived a previous life full of interesting adventures prior to becoming a dad. It faded quickly. I popped my inner tube mere minutes ago. mister hedgehog. my trickles of steel just cannot be contained. It was pretty funny dad. He should have been there Sounds like it's look. I'm gonna let you to hang out in the water for a bit. Apparently they also do taxes here. And i happen to have all my documents with me so i guess i'll just get that taken care of makes sense. Did it makes total and complete sense to conveniently have that. Hedgehog prepare your taxes at this underground water. Recreational facility mr hedgehog mr hedgehog paddled off to get his papers in order later after the taxes were done and the tiny pads on their paws began to resemble little raisins. The three of them headed back into the tunnel. Do not fear beebe said. I have left a trail of little hedgehogs collection of glow in the dark marbles to guide our way home. She held up the now empty marble pouch. she'd taken from little head chugs bookcase. Baby do you know me. Bb opened her mouth to take a guess. But dad cut in. Just tell us what it means. Little john little hedgehog and bbc grinned for the first time. Ever i can read collect a recollection if you will be collected not once but twice spe these prickly creatures fits my glow in the dark marble voice bb little hedgehog and bb giggled. Dad's smiled and paul on each of their shoulder trickles. The three of them made their way back to little hedgehogs. Borough collecting the marbles as they went. They made it back. She asked as sunlight began to stream in the window. antonio flees just stop jumping in tonio. There was one rule. Just one or just got an email dear. Your guest is interrupting our aromatherapy. Quiet time with his destruction of teacups. Please address immediately signed the studio beetles and spiders. I can see them up there with their tiny of rome therapy candles. That is not safe. They have actual candles up there. This is madness. i've got a camel. Cricket leaping all over the place destroying these beautiful antique teacups that i just happen to have oliver my studio for completely understandable reasons and now i've got insects lighting candles in the corner of my studio look friends. I have got to go this. Totally unforeseen situation is not gonna fix itself. I hope you loved the story. Little stories for tiny people is written performed and produced by me. Peter kay runs may website and puts my stories on the internet. For all of you to enjoy you can visit my website. Www dot little stories tiny people dot com to learn how to support the show. And if you love the podcast we share it with a friend. Also i am at work on my second picture. Book featuring little hedgehog please go to my website and sign up for the email list so that you are the first to hear when it's available thank you so much to simone for the super important reminder message at the beginning and thank you to z. Se camille madison and sofi for the sound effects. Used in this story. And thank you as always for listening in tonio. Let's get you back to the basement

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The Magic Lake

Get Sleepy

47:17 min | 3 weeks ago

The Magic Lake

"Welcome to get sleepy. Podcast when we listen. We relax and we get sleepy. My name is thomas and daimyo heist. It's lovely to have your company said. Thanks for joining me tonight. We'll follow a girl named ella as she discovers a magical lake. Beautiful wonders await. It's a sleepy. Retelling of a folk tale passed down to the author of this story by her mother. Fastly a big thanks to our sponsors for supporting tonight's episode. If you're in america and do you need to see a doctor. You should try dr. Just download the free. Doc doc up which is the easiest way to find a great doctor and instantly book. An appointment with doc doc. You can search for local doctors who take your insurance. Read verified patient reviews and book an appointment in person or by video chat every month. Millions of people you suck and they love the simplicity of booking. The writer appointments in quick time and in a simple easy to use app in some markets. 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Get sleepy to get twenty five dollars off your fast box. That's promo code. Get sleepy all one word for twenty five dollars off your first box at da l. y. hr v. e. s. t. dot com daily harvest dot com Say let's spend some time getting relaxed and comfortable so we can truly enjoy the genu- hat. Close your eyes and imagine a spoonful of threat. It's pure white and as fine as silk. It holds all of the worries and cares that. You have all the distractions of the day with the spoon. Your hands feel how delicate and soft texture is. The thread fills familiar to the touch. You might be tempted to unwind it and examine it further all to roll it up neatly untuckit away for later but instead take one end and start running it through your fingers as it loosely. Comes away from the spill as you want wind the length of fred. Imagine your thoughts and preoccupations loosen in the same way with asked repeats of the threat. Pools away from the spo. Let go of who that you've carried in your mind today. You can feel your kansas. Slipping away as a thread slips through your fingers with each twelve. The spol- your mind unwinds just that bit further and now we're here story about a young girl who made threads of heroin which led her on a magical janney. It begins in a beautiful mountain range filled with an abundance of color and wildlife. Where you're here. Sweet sounds of birdsong and busy insect Beyond valley narrow mountain that was covered in the most gorgeous wildflowers. I a gal named ala. Her mother worked as a seamstress in a nearby village. Creating beautiful clothing by hand allah would stay home make thread from cotton for her mother to us in how she would carefully process it and diet variety of callous from blue to gray to the brightest reds and the sunniest yellows allies specially loved this task and made a game of finding rainbows in the threads. She spun she was a creative child by nature and the villages would flock to her home to buy the delicate threads. She made every day while her mother was at work. In the neighboring village allah would walk to a small field a few miles from home where she would pick the cotton she needed to make a threat she liked to choose the very best clumps has south and could always imagine what each fluffy bull would become this routine suited them both just fine were happy and content and wanted for nothing one such dane allah was returning home from the field carrying little basket of cotton in her hand. One of a sudden horr- ears were filled with the most melodious sound. She'd ever heard it rang. Through the air like a magical chime. She was overcome with joy at the enchanting way it failed us census. She knew she had to find the source. If they strange and beautiful chain paps once she found it she'd sit down and listen for a long long time. Ella turned in the direction of the music. It's looting quality made her think of ripples on the surface of a late she began to walk and i she did. She could sense the melody growing clearer and more beautiful. A picture of a lake filled mind and seemed to cool to her. She must be going the right way. She realized the sun was shining in the blue sky and there was a gentle breeze which made how walk even more satisfying here and there. She saw little rob pence hopping grass butterflies danced between the blooms that dotted the landscape. Even though i was curious about where the music was coming from. She was grateful for such a wonderfully relaxing johnny. The rotor flowers in the many covers gave her ideas for the spurs of thread. She would spin later. She thought it would be nice to make some pink ones like the roses and some yellow by the daisies. She might die some of the cotton as blue as the sky or paypal for the lavender. Scented the breeze aloe walked and walked for a very long time. She climbed steep hills and waded through shallow puddles grasping how little basket of cotton giggling as she went. Meister the time l. was calm and practical. Passan she never did things like this. Perhaps that was why she was drawn to the song. It gave her a sense of freedom to go where it but now. A new sound intermingled within chanting song She could hear the quiet lapping of water in a like. The sound was mesmerizing. Became even more so the closer she got to it. She could feel it into a sense of calm before she even sore it. She knew she would love to count up next to lake in the soft green grass listening to the beautiful chorus of sounds when are reached the edge of the wartime. She realized the lake was much bigger than she'd imagined. And so blue. It dazzling time. The water was crystal clay. It seemed like something out of a picture book. She couldn't stop looking at it. She was so entranced near the staff's she could see little to orange and red fish swimming around some moved more slowly while others darted they sway in that allah wanted to take a closer look. She stepped towards the edge of the lake and then stumbled tipping high bosc. A big round boom cotton flew out underway over the water. She watched it lingering. The air above the lake for a few seconds before falling in coming to the weight of the water and sinking into the depths. Allah was heartbroken. It had taken how what seems like ages to pick it in the field. She needed to make thread for her mother's work and now she lost the perfect bundle trying to follow a song of all things. She shouldn't have been so careless at thought to herself. She now beside the lake to see maybe she could reach it. She couldn't even see it anymore. It had drifted too deep. She looked and looked but soon realised it was hopeless. Single tear wrote down her cheek and fell into the lake with a plop. Ooh the moment tattletale touched a staffs. Something wondrous happened. Magnificent ripples formed in the place hatay had fallen off the water around it. Begun to splash small walpole's swelled and danced nearby. Ooh forgot all about the song that brought to this magical place she to understand what was happening in front of her she what to face and stand as hard as she could into the lake as she watched the water began to glow the faint blue light. Slowly one of the wilpons in the center of the lake grew bigger and deeper and out of it rose. The most beautiful woman had ever seen she closed as the lake dead with a soft blue aura and a hand was golden and floated behind her as if she was suspended him more and not. Her face was serene with a hint of a smile. How rope was white and flu like she had to be. Got s allies. Thought no human or off we creature could possibly look like that. As ala considered weather she was dreaming. The woman beckoned raising on on gracefully towards and smiling wide allahdad not move. She was scared. The woman would disappear then. The woman spoke it sounded like the fabled voices of mermaids the tinkling of wind chimes in a false just louder than a whisper. she sat. Come my child. You need not to be afraid. Great glorious await you under the slake icu as do many off at creech is who would be your friend. Should you so choose. Alesha base was the woman who'd been singing. She knew she had to follow her at the same time and anew she should be on how way home and she told the women's march the woman reassured there was no need to worry. The lake was a while wet. Time stood still. And i could see all. She wanted in the depth without a second passing by on the surface. Allah trusted her. She couldn't understand why cafarelli she dipped one in the late. The water fount comforting and she was compound to tat other foot forward as she did. She felt the glow lake envelope. Mike a fine blue missed filling every poll and rejuvenating. She'd had a tiring day fast in the field and then on how walk here on the missed seemed to refresh in a gentle sort of way like the fast rain after hot summer or a warm comforting bone of half favorites soup. She closed high-rise. Let tara arms hang loosely by her sides relishing in this meditative feeling then like the woman. Allah felt herself rising off the ground before starting had to send into the lake. The water was clear and war on it. She floated to the woman who took alice hand gently foul a sense of calm. Wash aim high instantly up a woman's touch how worries slipped away from her mind. She forgot about losing her crushes. Cotton and the daily journeys she made to get it in the first place. She forgot about everything but the sensation of this moment and she wanted to capture it in her mind forever. She felt relief about where she was and optimism. About what the next minute bring. The woman began to move deeper into the lake taking aloe with her. They didn't even have to swim. Alan noticed in all they still seem to be floating carried a long gentle waves of the comforting warta past multicolored fields caro swaying in the current which reminded of all her colorful threats that everyone loved so much. The coral was everywhere covering all the rocks and ground and forming a little forest of it so playing hide and seek among the most varied fish allah had ever seen big and small and plain some with long flowing fins and office with shocked. Cute ones at home. Mice looked like tiny arms. I was some moved lazily either because of this size or because they just want in a rush to get anywhere. Ella couldn't quite town and they were office but slipped in and out of crevices and grass and seem to have an electric quickness about them. Allah took in the view trying to commit it to memory while still unsure if this was a dream. She wasn't sure where they were going but the woman seem to have a destination in mind after floating for a while longer they reached a structure. Attala could only think of as a palace it seemed to be made of strange yet beautiful rocks and it glued with the same blue collar that the woman and lake had before it was off white with colorful turrets air in there and it seemed to go on and on in various directions. Haphazardly by cool. The different parts had been built as afterthoughts. One large gardens in front of the palatial building. Full of plants ella couldn't identify. But i'm sure i only existed in the depths of this lake. A hat huge flowers and that collins seemed even more vivid because they were surrounded by the crystal clear blue water allah wanted to stop and examine them more closely but the women seemed excited to take her inside and show her something. Cheap beckoned to allah to follow again with renewed energy. Allah was curious as well say she followed a woman through an entryway only to find that the inside of the building was just as beautiful as the outside. It was decorated with stained glass and they were more plants everywhere. Unlike the garden these plants were growing out of the building itself. There were no flowerpots to be. Seen the plants emerged out of little corners and crevices in the woods and swayed softly with the waters. Current tabatha allah and the woman floated to a massive hole in the center of the building. Where less sore a huge thrown at the top of a high stack case upon the throne saito woman justice beautiful as the one who had brought her head. She wore long flowing robes of paople lined with gold the kind fit for royalty which she clearly wants aller imagine she was a queen. The queens have a stark white a neatly piled into a braid. On top of a had harare's while the kindest allah had ever seen surrounding her various creatures cumin like and otherwise some of which allah could not name they will also animals normally found underwater like seahorses and fish. They seem to allah to be a council of sorts and they all chatted to one another about her arrival. The queen welcomed allah to that community and told her that they sought to help everyone by above and below the surface of the lake. Foul tallies tears land in their water and didn't want to be signed any longer the queen. They had some humble offerings to give her. She gestured to the woman who brought out to them to lead her to a treasure room nearby then she told allah to pick as much as she wanted of any one kind of thing from the room. Allah funny the woman into a room full of trashes beyond how wildest dreams from wall to wall it was stocked with the most precious things in all the while. She could barely fathom where to start looking. Touched by the queen's kind of it was so generous she didn't know what to say she felt the woman she didn't need much. She was happy. With what little. She and her mother happened looking around. She saw precious ornate metal pieces artwork artifacts pottery the finest silks and many many other things perhaps she could take a couple of the stones and i felt as a memento this special day. The queen's collection was porn inspiring. Though that were countless tristesse had don't being stocked a neatly organized each in their own special place. One side of the room held chests that seemed to be brimming with precious metals like gold silver and platinum next to that were baskets full of beautiful stones in a staggering variety of collins. Rubies emeralds diamonds sapphires on some allah. Didn't recognize a shine invitingly waiting to tempt anyone who saw them into picking them up and whisking them away from hair in another corner. A rainbow half the finest silks fluttered loosely in the water and yet seemed unharmed by these cooed to allah in particular as in all the what should done making cotton threats. She'd often fantasized about running half fingers over luxurious silk cloths with a tentative hand. She reached out and touched one of them and she thought it was quite possibly the softest thing she had ever felt it. Russell would against a hand in a way she'd aways imagined that silk word it was. Oh my slack touching butter with a beautiful softness that comforted cleansing. Sing around the room. And i saw that one corner was piled high with all sorts of ancient artefacts looked there. They must have great value even to her inexperienced. I upon top of the father shelf something. Small and white caught her attention. She floated closer and realized it was her bone of cotton. The very same one that had started as amazing journey to this magical place allerton to the woman and told her that she'd made her decision and would like to talk to the queen again back in the throne room allah. Thank the queen for the opportunity to choose from how magnificent hall of treasures. She admitted that it was a difficult decision. But allen knew she couldn't possibly take anything but the cotton given that it was how lively she thought it best to take the thing she'd come for ela toda queen that she didn't want to take something she hadn't and eva so the cotton was all that she needed to everyone. Present was surprised from the fish to the sea horses to the queen herself. Surely allah must be joking. Who would go into a room like that and choose a little ball of cotton over the priceless items on display. The queen asked her again if she was absolutely sure and ella said yes oh she told them that the wonderful experience she had with ahead was more precious to her than any of the things that room as she said. This allah felt the war turnaround. Hair begin to swell and vallapan with it's one. She felt the current rocking her gently and lolling hatice sleep. She couldn't resist. It's poll say. She spreads her arms wide and drifted off with it. She couldn't say later that she remembered the janney back home as she was carried by the current allied dreamt of the silks. She had seen. She felt the top of the soft material in her hands. She remembered how the precious stones had glittered and glowed like the warmth of cozy fireplace. She when she reached the comforts of her own blinking. Her eyes she saw not only are familiar surroundings. Dots drapes of the finest fabrics and piles of gems in every corner of how room gifts from the people of the lane and then resting lightly on top of the a little boom of cotton Smiled and snuggled deeper into her back with a happy sigh. She closed her eyes and floated away on blue currents to dreams of a magical palace hidden under the surface of a deep blue

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Episode 47 Leonardo!

The Past and the Curious

32:55 min | 10 months ago

Episode 47 Leonardo!

"One day in eighteen, seventy, six and Bath County Kentucky meet fell from the sky. Meet meet me. Yes meet, and in twenty nineteen, we were weird enough to write a book about it. Not just any book because we can't do anything normal. What we decided to do is pretend that the only surviving piece of meat in the world which really doesn't this. Yeah, we made him the narrator of our store. I can't wait to share it with you. It is called the shower. It is available. Now, as we speak is me got enough you're talking right now. As you listen, and as I speak, it is available. Now you can go to our website the past curious dot com or the publisher's website early works dot com for more information. On needs. So you're telling me that they made a Mona Lisa entirely out of chewed bubblegum. Do you think it was the same person who the bubblegum? It's gross. Anyway. Welcome to the show. My name is Mick Sullivan, and this is the past and the curious. This episode is about Davinci and about a painting the DAVINCI painted. But another man stole. It's a fun show I'm really excited about it i. have some thank Yous I need to thank Lonnie powers from book power for kids. She played the role of a kind of F. trinket sort of character. If you've ever seen the hunger games and I'm also excited to welcome back at much request. I get a lot of requests to bring back Dr the Palaiseau professor. But I can't have him on very often because it's kind of hard to do. You know what I'm saying but he's here today if you don't know what Pailin domes mean well, I'll tell you before we get started. Anyway let's start the for story. To. The Renaissance, Oh Italy, how you have suffered through the darkness of the Middle Ages, and now here we are standing on the cusp of a new era where we will turn our minds to nature. Humans, and the world striving to understand how it all works, congratulations to us all. We've made it. This speech is not even remotely real though it was very well delivered. Thank you very much money, but it is easy to mistake this sentiment as something that people at the time might have actually felt. Most likely no one at the time realized that a new era, the renaissance had begun in the year fourteen hundred it's not like a giant switch flipped flooding the so called dark, ages with the bright light of the renaissance like US folks were just living their lives day to day. Most people will probably never even realized that the world was changing in such tremendous ways. It took historians to do that our story centers around Italy which in the early eighteen hundreds became the center of the renaissant. which radiated to the world the term renaissance refers to a time period that brought a new focus on philosophy and the arts sciences, understanding of the world and the mathematics behind it, and also a humans place in it. All like all other times it was also a period filled with wars and conflict because you know people right but it was a period of great advancement and achievement. Some of the greatest the world has ever known. The most famous and probably most important figure from this time and place was a left handed polymath who is unmarried and socially mismatched parents didn't even pay for him to be educated. Luckily for him and for the rest of us, he was really smart and he worked hard to keep getting smarter. No one could argue about his genius, His name was Leonardo Da Vinci. As. A young boy without the means for an Education Leonardo took advantage of the apprentice system in Italy, his natural ability with art and strong grasp of geometry and math, which she somehow learned without ever actually going to school earned him a spot as an apprentice to an artist in Florence named Ferruccio. Broke Yo is a leading painter and sculptor an his workshop near the Arno River Leonardo rose from sweeping the floors and mixing paints to working side by side with his master. It was not uncommon for an apprentice to handle much of the actual painting in a workshop and Leonardo was no different much of the painted onto canvases signed by Rubio was actually put there by Leonardo in fourteen seventy two at only twenty years of age Davinci officially became a master himself. This meant he could accept commissions for his own work which he did this how you made money. But he also found patronage or support from powerful political leaders. He moved to Milan to work under the Duke of Milan a man named sports. He originally got sports as attention by making him a lute from a horse go and silver. Which is pretty Nedal for being honest. This horse had instrument must have worked because sports decided to pay him a bunch of money. For Seventeen years in Milan, he made statues designed architectural features, created models and drawings. The even painted the masterpiece the last supper on the wall of the Monastery of Santa Maria. Della GRADS E. In addition to all of this, he was learning about the anatomy of living creatures, including people. Of course, do this he had to dissect cadavers or dead bodies? And to get these, he had to dig them up when no one was looking. Just pretty gross, but people learned a lot from his willingness to get his hands dirty. Honestly he was kind of a Rockstar people wanted to hire him for everything and he honestly left a lot of jobs unfinished because more. We're always coming his way. But when he did finish something, people would rush to see it and flocks like we might do for a concert or a Broadway show today. As. If this wasn't enough he was also designing some of the most incredible technology. The world has ever seen. Remember he was a polymath an expert at many thanks. Most of his designs were never actually built like a helicopter and a tank, a diving suit and a super mega gigantic crossbow. These just existed as detailed drawings in his many notebooks filled with a never ending flow of ideas. Some of his inventions did become real but either way he regularly impressed people with the constant highly detailed ideas that just seem to come to him and dreams but all of the military conflict and strife in Italy eventually changed his life. His rich princely friends Sforza. The Duke of Milan was overthrown. Fellows Sports. Your days are over. Over If it wasn't clear when this happened, Davinci had to ease on down the road looking for a new home phone. Now sorry that didn't really work either nice try though this time he wound up in Venice here in fifteen o two, he got to know, Cesar Borja. The borjas were one of the most powerful families actually probably the most powerful family Italy and not just because they're brother was the pope. They were good people to have as friends to say the least and Davinci was valuable to them for many reasons. Not, the least of which being his abilities with a weapon design. But DAVINCI like war, and he looked for ways to avoid it a situation arose involving the Arno River the Arno ran from Florence through Pisa and then to the sea. Rivers with the lifeblood of cities they allowed people to trade with everyone else along the river easily, but they also met access to the sea and ocean and this meant trade with the world, which was very important for a city like Florence. Unfortunately, pizza was in the way they had recently revolted against Florence which cramp the style of the powerful people there who were counting on open trade routes things headed for the ocean had to get through a I. This was a problem and traditional warfare had gone nowhere for decades and so Davinci. Came up with what he thought was a great. IDEA. You're going to do what? Of. River. Like Moo Cow. I'm going to move that I'm going to change the direction of that river. Moved me a rib bird. Oh, I see now is it still going to be a river though you're not going to like build a dam just flood the forest of would to make it a lake filled with timber right? Do you mean a Timberlake? No. I'm going to change the course of this river with my bare hands or. Actually. The hand of a bunch of laborers. Davinci and another famous man named Machiavelli came up with a plan to dig a new channel through the dry earth which the river would follow instead. They would divert the river so far that the path would travel all the way around Pisa leaving it high and dry. The original river path would be nothing more than a muddy trickle. There would be no water to sustain farms and people no water to trade on and most importantly no way to hold up. Lawrence's plans. They thought it was foolproof. Were they right. They were worse than right. They were wrong. Even a genius left-handed Italian polymath as a few failures. So as soon he left the service of the BORJAS and settled back in his native Florence where he began work in fifteen o three on what would one day become the most famous painting in the world. People. Still argue about it today and there certainly some mystery around it. But most believe it was a commission from a silk merchant named Francesco they'll gio condo the merchant Davinci to paint a portrait of his wife Lisa. By fifteen seven Davinci had yet finish it and even when he did though many believe it remains unfinished still. He never gave it to Francesco. Instead as Da Vinci continued to move around. Italy. He took the painting we know as the Mona Lisa with him. Did he do this because he had grown too attached to it. Because he wasn't satisfied with it and plan to work on it further. We just don't know, but we do know that he took it with him to France. When King Francois, I invited him to live and work there under his patronage. It was in Da Vinci possession when he died in fifteen nineteen, which was a full sixteen years after he was hired to paint. Lisa. Deljo condo. The painting was purchased from Davinci's assistant by that same French king who as an art loving royal had quite a collection of paintings. For years, he hung on the wall of one of his smaller royal homes of which he had several. Is reason to believe he hung it in the bathroom? Beatrice from Philadelphia, you have thirty seconds to tell us something. Awesome. I've already heard it and I know that at awesome. So why don't you tell the rest of the people? Beatrice in my here's Murray Marie Curie was born in Warsaw Poland on November seventh eighteen, sixty seven. She studied at the university and then she began her scientific studies and France. Then she married a man named here carry together they want to know vote prices Savvy Murray died from radiation poison but I know lifetime discovered two new radioactive elements radium and polonium and became the only woman to win two Nobel Prizes. Thank you so much that was awesome. Marie Curie is a fascinating person. I really appreciate you sending that, and if you have a submission for you have thirty seconds, there are instructions on our website. Oh, you really need is a voice recorder on a phone diseases that can't wait to hear what you said. You know I wonder if Davinci ever invented a machine that could tell me what time it is. Birth time. A. All right. Here we go. It's a quiz about Leonardo Da Vinci in the renaissance. So here we go win Napoleon's troops were in Milan in the early eighteen hundreds. What did they do with the giant FRESCO? We know as the last supper, it's multiple choice. Did they eat breakfast under it? Try to paint copies or use it for target practice. If you said they used it as target practice. You are correct though the Mona Lisa belonged to Napoleon at the time and reportedly traveled with him to hang in his commander's tent. His men weren't as interested in Renaissance Art. They used the last supper for target practice and years. Later, it had to be restored due to the damage. Amazingly, it survived the bombings during World War Two. Question number. Two. Two years before Leonardo. Davinci was born Yohannes Gutenberg invented something that would change the world some say it was the most important invention of all time. What was it? It. Was the printing press. Finally, books and pamphlets could be reproduced quickly so that they could be available to everyone before that books had only been available at libraries or universities most were written or copied by hand, which meant that they were very difficult to get your hands on after the printing press was invented more and more people learn to read which allowed them to be exposed to new ideas and ways of thinking, and it was one of the most important aspects of the renaissance. Okay Question Number Three Leonardo Da Vinci wasn't the only great Italian renaissance painter and he wasn't the only one who shared a name with an injury turtle. which other painter slash Ninja turtle namesake was the creator of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Wasn't Raphael and it wasn't Donatello Michelangelo Michelangelo and Leonardo were rivals in real life. So they probably didn't share any pizza. The real. Michelangelo. Spent four years painting the incredible frescoes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. By the end I, BET, his arms were pretty tight. Maybe, you've seen this before, and if you haven't, that's totally cool. It's very easy to imagine in a gallery of Fine Art Museum. Someone is set up with their Easel, our sketch pad painting drawing stopping regularly to stare deep into the detail of a masterpiece on the wall. Masterpieces are just that masterpieces. They are marvels of detail technique filled with inspiration, and for many they are a unique way to learn to paint. Nothing beats at something in person up close and personal with a critical eye. These art gallery art makers are learning from the masters even if the masters have been dead for centuries. This is precisely what Louis Baru had in mind when he walked into the Louvre on a Tuesday in nineteen eleven. No, he wasn't hoping to take lessons from some Zombie painters. He was going to spend the morning with the painting created and sort of May be finished by Leonardo. Da Vinci four hundred years before in nineteen eleven the Mona Lisa was a pretty normal painting people new Davinci was important but this wasn't believed to be his most important work. For centuries, it had been out of public eye and when it was finally hung on the walls of the Louvre, it was about as exciting to folks as all of the other thousands of paintings that hung on the walls of the twenty six acre building. In the late eighteen hundreds of artists and critics began to realize or simply decided how great it was. But they were the snobby sort to most folks. It was just another portrait of a lady who? May Not be smiling Louis must have been one of these parolees up people because she's exactly who he was there to see. But when he got to the room where the painting usually hung, he found only four nails that once held it onto the wall. She was gone. Now. Yes. Excuse me I came here to see the Davinci in this room but it's gone what Davinci Yes I heard you what painting can't you find the Mona Lisa Dewa. The Mona Lisa. We have no painting called the Mona Lisa yes you do or you did it's The Da Vinci painting. It's a half length portrait of a woman who's Kinda smiling kind of nod and there's some interesting scenes over her shoulder in the distance and what did you call it the Mona Lisa we well, this is France and here we call that painting a Kanda Okay. Well, it appears Lajja. Kanda is missing from your wall. Any idea where it is Doa, Law Asia condo missing where is it? You mean the Mona Lisa's missing. This security guard checked with the photography department they had been working through the collection. So he assumed that the painting was temporarily removed so that photographs could be taken. Was He right He was worse than right. He was way he worse than right he was super duper Ding Dong Mega. Wrong. The Mona Lisa had been stolen. The HOOPLA that followed made the most famous painting in the world, and you could argue that the Mona Lisa never would have been as famous as it is now if Vincenzo Peruse. Hadn't initiated a worldwide search when he stole it on a Monday morning in nineteen eleven. Vincenzo had worked at the loop often on as a contractor for years. In fact, the museum had chosen one hundred paintings including the Mona Lisa. To put behind glass for extra protection and Vincenzo had installed. Many of those glass covers people hated the glass covers because sometimes the light would reflect on the glass and you couldn't actually see the painting that you came to see but instead the mirror image of your own face or someone else near you straining to see the Dang thing in the first place. The criticism didn't hurt Vinnie. He did most of his work on Mondays when the museum was closed. So No, one was around to complain to him. It's not like he could have done anything about it. Anyway. He was just a hired hand a regular guy who moved to France from Italy? Living in a tiny apartment and who is apparently nurturing a quiet. Yet, burning passion for returning Italy's important artworks back to Italy. He knew all too well that the move would be closed on Mondays. So one Sunday night instead of going home afterward, he and two accomplices snuck into a broom closet and spent the night with the cleaning supplies. When the morning came, they did their stretches put on work clothes and a smock with identify them as maintenance workers. Making a beeline for Lisa, they pulled her off of the wall and quickly headed for the door. Stairwell. They removed the centuries old frame and carelessly tossed it aside. DAVINCI painted the Mona Lisa on wood. So it was impossible to roll up which is a good thing for the art world. So vinnie hid the inflexible rectangle under his smock the only surprise person he ran into must have been incredibly lacking in the Observation Department or else didn't care because the painting is two and a half feet tall and nearly two feet wide there is no wave and Shinzo didn't look suspicious especially for someone leaving an art museum that Dude didn't say a word. It's hard to know what mention does plan was later he said he didn't really even have one other than to return the painting Davinci's native country Italy. But many believed that he and the others wanted to either sell it. Or have someone create copies and then pass those off as the original to several unwitting and lawless collectors who were okay with having stolen art in their collections. Apparently those people exist and that's totally lame. It took officials at the museum twenty six hours to figure out that the painting was gone and when they did they searched high and low. It was nowhere in the building. Of course, there were suspects. Other people had stolen things from them in the past and they checked with them. But none of those investigations uncovered the slightest shred of evidence on the winner about of the Mona Lisa. Police even brought the famous painter. Pablo Picasso in for questioning. The accusations made him blue for a period but they explained that they had to look at the crime from all possible angles at what's which he of course understood. Once the international press learned about the highest. The story was everywhere the New York. Times was astounded. Someone could walk out of a museum in the heart of a bustling city with a large renaissance portrait and the more people heard about it. The more the painting was planted in their imagination not many people in North or South. America had seen the Mona Lisa. Most Europeans hadn't even seen it but the case and the amount of money tied to the painting was in every newspaper around the globe. So now everyone knew about the Mona Lisa. All of this attention made it really difficult for Vincenzo to do anything with the pilfered painting. So he stuck it inside a trunk in his tiny apartment. Right next to the stove. Put some socks and underwear on top of it, and there it stayed for a couple of years to the world. It was just gone and the authorities slowly began to lose hope. Until one day, an art dealer in Florence got a letter from someone who claimed to have the Mona Lisa. This person wanted to sell it and to see that it would wind up back in Italy. Yes. Sure. Okay. Buddy. He probably wrote back I'm going to need to see it before I can give you a price. The Art dealer assumed that the letter came from someone who actually just had a copy of the DAVINCI. But Ju just in case he called the curator at the nearby Art Museum. Vincenzo Robak. Sure. Come on up to Paris. I'll show you the painting I, keep it with my underwear. nope. Coming up there to see your underwear, you come on down here and you can bring Lisa. Then, he was hoping for that cash payment. So he brought the painting and the art dealer brought his curators friend. And the police. Vincenzo was arrested and for his crime of stealing what became the most being this painting in the world he served. Seven months in prison. You later served in the Italian army during World War One and died in relative obscurity. The Mona. Lisa on the other hand was displayed in Italy to enormous crowds many of whom had probably never even heard of it until the heist. It returned to Paris on the penultimate day of nineteen thirteen, and since then it has been the most popular painting balloon. which is arguably the finest. Museum in the world. Okay you all be cool because it's time for Dr. Awkward. Now, here's the thing about Dr Awkward. Everything he says is a pal android that means it is spelt the exact same way forward as it is backwards. It's pretty crazy I don't understand why he does that. Anyway. Here goes nothing. It's stuck up words the Landreau broke. It's doctor. Pal Gross. It's Dr Awkward. Dr. Rock. Solid Room. Dr Awkward It's great to have you back. Is it. It is. Well I know that everyone has missed you I get requests to have you on all the time. But you have to understand that I can only have you on every. So often for a number of reasons, seven Eve's now it's been way more than seven Eve since you were last here. Hey, anyway, you probably noticed that security has changed around the studio. You'll need to wear this name tag. You're here shall I write Dr Awkward on it for you? Know it's Abe Sebastian. is that right I never knew your full name eight Sebastian Awkward is that what you would like me to call you name now one man. Yes. I'm naming a one man and that man is you. So what should I write on your name tag? Dr Awkward. Yeah. That was my original suggestion. Here you go. Oh No, it doesn't seem to be very sticky. I could get some tape so it'll stay on your jacket. No, tie it on. we'll get a hole punch and then some string and their we kill. Now we brought you on this episode because I understand that you actually witnessed an art heist and this is very exciting to me. I heard some of the details and it seems like you are in the restroom when the heist began, where was the restroom as I P I c Pisa. Oh Pisa Italy very fancy. Yes. There's a lot of great art in that city. Though it's alarming that someone tried to steal some especially from a bathroom. So while you were. In. His bathroom you noticed someone stealing some art is that how it went down elite tile tiles like mosaic not sounds interesting. What was pictured on the tile eve as in Adam and Eve wo say. Wonder what Adam said to her when they first met like when they saw each other for the first time Madam in. Eden I'm Adam. Maybe. Maybe you're right. Yeah. Anyway. What did you do when you saw this art being stolen put Elliott's toilet up. Like a portable toilet, you're borrowing from someone named Elliot you put it away. Okay. Well, did you get a good look at thief mom it was your mom. I can't imagine what was going through your head Amy Must I ju Jitsu Ma? Whose amy more importantly did you Jujitsu? Your mom mom is just as selfless as I am. Well, it doesn't sound very selfless to steal a mosaic of Eve from a bathroom and pizza. Art Name no time emit but one mantra one mantra did you resolve the situation by saying something marge let send a sadness telegram. So your mom is marge and her sadness was reason that she stole this eve from the bathroom and you've got her to confront her sadness by writing someone telegram. What did it say? Mister Owl met my metal work from. That's at Well I. Don't think this is going to work for me won't it? No. Well I was hoping for more action acrobats stab ORCA nurses run our talking stop murder not tonsured rum pots. Tino dump mud on it. Yeah. That's the stuff. Slap a ham on Omaha House. All right. That's enough. Thanks. I think we can unquestionably call this your most successful visit to the show ever. But that's not saying much. Is it? Awkward. It's Dr. off. Salad. Well for those of you who like Dr Awkward you're welcome for those of you who hoped you'd never hear it again. Sorry I can't do very often though so you know. I have a lot of Patriot people to thank again this month I, appreciate it so much you help me keep going and doing the show. It means a lot. So if anyone else is interested there are links to our patron count on our website the passengers dot com. To simple latest support the show. Without. Further Ado. I need to think. Abraham. Had a nice message from your mom. Vicky Abraham Thank you Abraham. 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Rise of the Permian | Chapter 2

Boomtown

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Rise of the Permian | Chapter 2

"I've heard tells about the Santa Rita number one the oil well that started the first boom in west Texas. The site itself is a kind of Mecca and the Permian Basin one recent afternoon. I decided to see it for myself. In the Santa Rita stood alone in a field of mesquite trees and yellowed grass. There was a metal Derek in a tin shack next to it a barbed wire fence surrounded the rig but the gate was unlocked so I slipped inside. The wind rattled the shack. Part of the ceiling had caved in the huge belts that once powered the rigs engine had snapped and rotted in the Sun. I stood on the rig floor and thought about the roughnecks roughnecks who drilled this well almost a century ago must have seen mad to be drilling for oil in the middle of nowhere. They had no idea the The discovery they were about to make would change the world and I'm Christian walls from Texas monthly imperative entertainment. This is boomtown podcast about the historical boom. That's playing out in the Permian Basin. A boom so big. It's reshaping our economy. Our climate and our geopolitics geopolitics. Today we're going to step back in time to truly understand what's happening in the Permian right now you. I have to know how we guy here are. The Permian Basin went from being sparsely populated cow country. To one of the most influential regions in the world This is episode to the rise of the Permian when people think about Texas they tend tend to think of cowboys when I travel outside of the southwest. I'm often asked if I wrote a horse to school for the record I wrote a bike. This enduring stereotype springs from a relatively brief period of time three or so decades following civil war. This was when cowboys drove millions. Ends of cattle out of Texas to railroad hubs like Dodge City. Kansas think of Augusta's mccrae. And Woodrow McCall out on the trail and lonesome dove. But but if the cowboy defined Texas in the late eighteen hundreds it was oil and the wildcatter the define the states next fifty years and it all started did with the most famous strike at the mall spindle top the world changed it spindle top which was big mound out on the swamp flats. It's below Beaumont that's writer. Brian Burrow the author of six books including the big rich the rise and fall of the greatest Texas old fortunes. You know kids there since the civil war had seen things bubbling and it smelled sulfur us And there was one. Arm Guy Petillo Higgins Gins Bud Higgins and he thought well. There's at least a shot. There that there might be some oils we brings in some water well drillers from core scanner and they They sink hole in this big mound which we would call today a salt dome and they hit a gusher classic. Hollywood gusher Out of control. You know rain down black oil on everybody getting everybody dirty. Brian came to Texas monthly studio in Austin to talk to us about the history Texas oil and just to be clear. The American oil industry didn't actually begin in Texas in eighteen fifty nine four decades gates before spindle top. A Yankee named Colonel Edwin Drake was the first to drill a successful oil well in Pennsylvania. Yeah there air had been Oil production in western Pennsylvania. Going back to civil war. Toms and I think there were a couple of wells in in in Kansas. But you know it was. We were still learning how to I use it and what it was for. There was no sense. There was no scramble to find oil. It was guys like but Higgins Sang. Oh let's see if we can find oil in every now and then somebody found something small. He was the first one to find something. Big Petillo but higgins was a troublemaker in his youth raising hell in the small town of Beaumont place where the East Texas piney woods meets the swampy Gulf coast at seventeen. His antics led to a gunfight light. With the sheriff's Deputy Higgins caught a bullet in the left arm and the limb had to amputate higgins eventually straightened out. He taught himself geology. Geology and studied the region subterranean salt domes the tops of which form hills around Beaumont. He spent a decade trying to coax all from what locals called the the Big Hill. After a decade of unsuccessful drilling Higgins published a newspaper ad hoping to attract new investors. The ad caught the attention of a man named Anthony Lucas. The austrian-born engineer believed that Higgins was onto something. Lucas raised enough capital to begin again a new drilling operation. That was in October of one thousand nine hundred and sure enough. The well came roaring in on January tenth. Nineteen O one. A plume of crude oil shot over one hundred feet in the air raining down over the wooden derrick and coating nearby houses it took nine days to get the Lucas Geyser under control troll in looked like snow ended discolored all the houses in town in the self awareness aware and assailed way in your pocket. Where'd quickly spread about the strike at the big hill which was rechristened spindle? Top Beaumont became came. The state's first old boomtown over the next three months the population tripled from ten to thirty thousand. Just one a year later there were two hundred eighty five wooden derrick surrounding spindle top hill and more than five hundred companies vying for a piece of the big black pioneer Nathan. The signal I well produce more oil. That had been produced in the United States like the previous ten years. It was just the explosion. mm-hmm was such a metaphor for for what was going happen in one thousand nine hundred a year before spindle top. There were only eight thousand cars driving throughout the entire United States. Just twenty years later there were ten point five million yes spindle top and Texas oil really was one of the main propellants behind the oil boom. So we'd have impacted everything from Navy's Davies two cars but transform the way America did business the way we got around. I mean an awful lot of horses where out of work there in those first I in years would one created an even greater need for the suddenly abundant black gold flowing out of Texas and other American oil fields after the war ended in nineteen eighteen a British lord famously bragged that the Allies had floated to victory on wave of oil and with the economic economic explosion that followed the war. The demand for oil only increased at the time. All geology was still a crude practice. Many of the early wildcatters simply relied on their nose sniffing around salt domes for the smell of sulfur. Just like Higgins said others drilled based on nothing thing more than a hunch some all seekers turn to the spiritual realm for help and others tried to divine new wells with dowsing rods in other words words. A lot of early wild catting was little more than a crap. Shoot and keep in mind. This was at a time where we had no real idea. What was down there or how it got around? I remember Hugh Cohen who was the richest man in in Houston for years one of the first great welcome centers you know. He thought that oil moved in Rivers. I down below. We had no idea of the geology. They were just beginning to use geophysical stuff he would walk around and find places in the earth I think he just felt like usually low low places he just felt in his bones. If there were oil there some guy was pretty good at it eventually. The great spindle top. Played out there. Were simply too many holes poked in the ground too many straws sucking from the same milkshake if Texas I was going to continue to be a major player in the game it would have to find new reserves up until this point oil had been found in swampy hilly areas like East Texas Texas in western Pennsylvania so the West Texas desert seemed. Like the last place you'd find another spindle top so when people would appear it. Sure doesn't look like western Pennsylvania like there are no trees not much water and it doesn't have hills it's mostly flat. What so if you're looking for oil in places where it looks like you found it before this is not attractive? Dr Dianna hidden is a historian of the petroleum industry. She's lived in Midland the financial capital of the Permian Basin for forty six years and has published six books on the industry. We we spend a morning talking at her home. Far As towns and roads and that type of thing. There's very little at that time. Most roads weren't paved even major arteries this ranch country. The Permian Basin was in the Nineteen Twenty S. Mostly a blank slate. A Pancake Flat Sea of Scrub Brush. Mesquite there are few towns and few people and towns were spaced. I used to some extent in terms of how to get cattle efficiently to the railroad which was why about every twenty five thirty miles along the railroad. There'd be a town. The Permian Basin was still in many ways the land of lonesome dove but there were a few who looked out at the empty empty pastures of West Texas and saw the potential in its arid red dirt in nineteen nineteen. Frank Pickerel was discharged works from the army and traveled to Fort Worth at the time fort worth was the western hub for the nascent. Texas oil industry place where aspiring old promoters went to make deals deals. He just so happened to run into an old army buddy. Who recently assembled the rights to drill on four hundred thirty thousand acres of land surrounding big link a speck speck of a town? Roughly halfway between PASOAN DALLAS SMACK DAB in the middle of nowhere. The land in Reagan County were big lake is located it was dirt cheap. Just ten cents an Acre in fact the land in this area of West Texas was deemed so worthless than in eighteen. Seventy six six. The state legislature gave two million acres to the University of Texas for Free Pickerel and his partner and El Paso businessman named named taming crop acquired the drilling rights and pickerel traveled to New York hoping to round up some investors at one point he even approached a group of Roman Catholic nuns. The sisters pulled their money and took a leap of faith on the harebrained scheme. It took nearly two years but by the end of Nineteen Twenty Twenty pickerel and crop managed to raise over one hundred thousand dollars now they had to actually do something with the land and they had to do it fast. They're drilling permit had an expiration irrigation. Date and if they didn't start drilling before that permit expired all their efforts would be for naught ignoring the advice of his geologist. Just pickerel settled on a drilling location about a dozen miles west of big lick. His choice was more of convenience than fate. It was only one hundred seventy four four feet from the rail line. He purchased some US drilling equipment. Shipped it to the location and on the afternoon of January Eighth Nineteen twenty one just Hours before the permit expired the crew managed to split in on the rigs. Water will needing legal proof that they made the midnight deadline pickerel hill to passing Asan car and persuaded one of the passengers to sign an affidavit saying he had witnessed the event the deal was saved. MM-HMM PICKEREL KRUPP. Now had another three years to find some all but first they had to find driller pickerel was scouting east. Texas says boom towns when he met a hard nosed old patch veteran named Carl Cromwell Cromwell who had a little problem with alcohol. And that's well known so. Nobody can sue me for saying that about a dead man for fifteen bucks day. Cromwell agreed to move his wife and small daughter daughter into one of the two shotgun houses that had been built near the rig the ramshackle lodgings and the rig the only man made structures as far as the I could see the progress proof slow. They discovered that they were going to have to drill a lot deeper than they might have. Originally thought I had to go down almost two four thousand feet. And you're drilling with a cable tool rig essentially you're dropping a heavy pointed wait eight to shatter it and then you're bringing up the rock shatters. The the you know this is how you're you're making whole. It's a slow procedure. The old rig broke down often and it could take days to ship in replacement parts by rail. Sometimes sometimes the crew went weeks without a paycheck. It was at one of these. Low points depict climbed the rigs Derek with a sealed envelope. A gift from the nuns suet. Invested in the project inside were a handful of dried rose petals. Here's frank pickerel himself in hand. Njit New Year and the envelope contains regrowth had been blessed. I in the many of the same estimate in the rose activates on with me without theory and the scattered the rue specialist tesla which by then were ride or whether we and to save five crystal the Santa Rita earn pickerel dedicated. The will the Santa Rita number one after several months of tough drilling Krummel got a lucky break and experience. roughneck named De Lachlan happened to be traveling through the area and was surprised to see an in all rig- running cromwell hired him on the spot. Lachlan's wife Nora. Joined her husband in the Cromwell's at the lonely drilling site awesome People pay and camp just up the other side of the rig and Toward night while we walk walk through you. Just get hungrier. Great to talk to people and how we were they lady asked me said have you lived in West Texas and and she said well. You just don't know any better do you little. We knew the value of that land that we were standing on. They drilled for nearly two years without results but everything changed on May twenty eighth nineteen twenty-three we went to bed. That night dislike always got up. Make Coffee I think that's far as we got. We didn't get breakfast at all. It was the whole world will lose a coral ran out of his house and and hollered real loud and we ran out and that was not baylor going to the top of that eighty six berry and hit the ground block. Failed down to one side and anchor that just play all of oil Kane and the fatter over back in the leg and chickens worldwide anymore and the Pagis Yup of often that said Nikolai and our garden. People from as far away as Fort Worth came to see the well pulse and spew oil all over the Derek which it did for an entire month until Cromwell's crew managed to control the flow. The well quickly filled two large tanks with crude when those field they let the whole run into their slush pit until that too was overflowing soon the big lake filled was one of several new oilfields sprouting and thriving throughout West Texas. The Permian Basin had been born handed. Always been the way that we find oil in some of the most atrocious. Climate's not gonNA say anything atrocious about middle in an Odessa elicit the did the climate and the ground is not a place that people are just dying. Go build their vacation homes you now. People find oil all over Texas and they don't WanNa live. Nobody wants to live in the places that they find it while I actually find much. Richard the Permian Basin quite beautiful. I get Brian Cinnamon. The oil producing parts of West Texas are an acquired taste but despite its atrocious atrocious climate. Once the Santa Rita came in the boom was on an soon wildcatters and boomers were rushing into the Permian. So the now you're in a position by nineteen twenty seven of knowing that okay the Permian Basin even though it doesn't look like other places that have oil even though it's a real headache getting your stuff in and out to drove wells even though there's no place for your workers or your company employees to live you're going to have to develop that But has level and so that's when the first permian basin boom takes off midland with its hotels and banks was probably the nicest of West Texas boom towns but most of the small towns closer to glorify working campgrounds with the living conditions. Were permitted the twenties and thirties with a great time for the classic classic Texas Spoil Boomtown the classic. One I'm thinking of is Wync way out. We're thinking Lincoln someplace You know towns sprung up in the middle of the pasture in like a month and you know initially it's tents and then it's tents and shacks and then it's tents and shacks and hookers in bars. And you know everybody works their rears off all day long when they come home. Young white men being what they they are especially in the twenty S. They want entertainment and so they were loud. They were dangerous There was a lot of gambling and a lot of drinking and in a lot of shooting guns in the air. You know Texas Boone. Towns American oil boom towns were not place for for the the plight and the mannered. They were rough in terms of fun. Not only were they places where you can get booze but nearly all of those places also also had a place where you could gamble and then there were ladies whose occupation involved lying down a lot and they would would operate out of these places where people were having fun and you could also get a fight at the end of the day if you wanted one now. Quick to make here is the lot of the people people in a town like wink. Who are using what I've been describing are single? They don't have families very young. is they'll move with the boom because because they can get a job without asking questions and when the action slows down and the wages begin to taper off they'll move to the next button. As America entered the Second World War the production of all became a matter of national security in fact some will workers were exempted from the draft to ensure ensure there was enough crew to power the allied forces. We'll Texas oil was massively important to the allied effort I remember the very first challenge. Inge was how to get it out of Texas because typically it was Oil Back then was moved by ship and unfortunately with Nazi Zi submarines in the Gulf of Mexico and along Florida an awful lot of the Texas oil that was should be going to Texas ended up washing up on the beaches in Florida. The Roosevelt Administration Russian built the first ever pipelines the call the big inch and the little inch from Texas all the way up to Pennsylvania and once we figured you're now how to get Texas oil up to the East Coast you know. It became the great driver of jet fuel of all manner of airline fuels. Also tanks Everything I mean the Nazis and the Japanese were always hard pressed for oil. That was the reason that you know. Hitler went so hard for Romanian and one of the main ane reasons he invaded. Russia was to get Russia oil of from the Caucasus. Texas oil was widely credited for helping secure the allied victory and afterward. The state's influence only grew while I mean the thing where ultimately Texas really changed the way America lived was with Texas natural gas After World War Two when we got the first pipelines built up to the northeast and gas from the Permian gas from either even further west Texas suddenly only lit up most of Brooklyn You know all of New York all a Broadway. That was all Texas natural gas. After the War America was able to turn its gaze gaze inward in the period of economic growth that followed another Texas phenomenon was born one that would come to live alongside the cowboy in American magin adulation the swaggering Texas wildcatter. It really wasn't until America kind of woke up in nineteen forty six and nineteen forty seven began taking stock of fifteen years of kind of economic and social changes. It had not been widely covered. The people began to understand cheeses crisis a lot of wealthy people in Texas. Where do these guys come from? Rich Texas oilmen weren't a new thing but they were new to the rest the country there was this famous magazine cover of life magazine early. Nineteen fifty I wanNA say in which they put h hunt on the cover. The the ambushed him on on the streets downtown Dallas and in the big headline on the cover was. Is this the richest man in America and East Coast and the north. Everybody was like what. Who are these people? The national press became statuary with these staggering rich colorful characters. One of the most famous famous wildcatters was a guy known as silver dollar. Jim West this roly-poly guy in Texas in Houston who would walk around literally throwing silver dollars hours in the air and chuckling people would scramble for them in Houston. Specially Dallas is always a little bit better behaved. Women almost competed to be the most Outrageous you know this was the air will people bought Tigers for their backyard and start with. Put a like a steamboat. In your swimming pool you know stuff like this from nineteen fifty into the late. Fifties was really the high watermark for press attention. It really created this whole idea of kind of the loud nouveau riche. Texas Oilman mythos surrounding the Texas log. Katter has persisted to this day. Perhaps perhaps the most famous oilmen of all time hills from the eighties and wasn't even a real person without a doubt the most influential oilman broadcasting this larger than life persona to the rest of the world was jr ewing. TV's Dallas us. And if you weren't alive in the seventies just may not remember Dallas and Jr Ewing were the top things on TV the number one thing on TV They ran an episode once where he got shot and it was the most watched episode in television history anywhere in the world but while the fictional antics. Jr Ewing captivated the viewing public real live. Texas oilman found out their money could influence a different audience. Washington DC Texas oil. Money does not immediately move into the political sphere. It needs to be discovered and it was famously discovered by a young unknown. Texas Congressman Name Lyndon Johnson in nineteen thirty eight nineteen thirty nine period. Where he was tasked with raisins money and he said why I've met some of these rich oilman course in Washington they were like rich oilman in Texas? Well Okay Pal and like like. Let's say that was on a Friday afternoon by Monday morning. He Scott like five checks for five thousand dollars each and that's serious money back in the day and suddenly everyone who was like Whoa. There's money down in Texas more importantly the oilman down in Texas wit. Whoa our money actually as we could do something in mean something in Washington and that all money could go a long way toward advancing one's own political agenda whatever it might be but in the state will millionaires the gym wests? The Hugh Collins were beginning of the nineteen thirties beginning to buy newspapers and radio. uh-huh stations to broadcast their kind of politics. And they're kind of politics with rare exception as what we would call today. Ultra conservative. Perfect Anti Union anti-labour anti people of Color. You know it was kind of an old fashioned white. Supremacist politics politics. And so you saw the rise of Pappy O.. Daniel you know Kinda crazy most bigoted governor we ever had their through the forties by the Early Nineteen Fifties Texas oils influence on national politics was well established if you were running for National Office. especially as a present doesn't it became a right of passage to come down and meet with Texas oil millionaire and this was a thing you know. Nixon Came Down Nixon met with with everybody here over and over and over by and large you know Texas Oilman. We're pushing What we would call today a right wing agenda And what changed everything is that They hitch their wagon to Joseph McCarthy in the Early Nineteen Fifties McCarthy of course this was a US. Senator from Wisconsin who famously launched a national inquisition to as he claimed expose communist sympathizers it it became known as the second red scare plenty of Texas Oilman strongly supported his cause but after the backlash to McCarthyism they were more chastened Jason Their political pursuits. This was very popular and very powerful For four or five years in the early fifties where you know a lot of people. We're losing their jobs because they were too liberal but there was finally in Nineteen fifty-three an immediate and powerful backlash powered by in the media but also by Eisenhower who was more of a moderate president who didn't much care for this crazy right-wing stuff the fact that Texas a woman had so vividly vividly sponsored McCarthy there was huge blowback that cost a lot of them really in fact almost all of them to kind of tamp down their political critical involvement there for a period of years. And you really didn't see Texans become visible on the national stage again until the sixties axes with LBJ with the rise of George Bush especially in nineteen forty eight. George H W Bush was a young graduate from yell and a war hero He. He traveled from New England down to West Texas to make his fortune as an oilman to Edessa then midland midland. Stop Middle and Odessa. These were not places on the earth that the rest of the country had ever heard of much less bintu and suddenly you know in the late forties early fifties there so many Ivy League kids moving down there that they open Harvard Club and Yale Club in a Princeton Clubs that these gentlemen will have of an appropriate place to drink. I suppose the Texas oil business was reaching maturity but it wasn't just the character of the almond that was changing the late fifties. We saw tectonic shift across the entire industry. Oil was going global The problem was people started finding Oil Willing even more obscure places in in the Middle East places called Kuwait and cutter that no one had ever heard of and this was a lot cheaper a lot closer to Europe you know by by nineteen sixty by the early sixties. He didn't WanNa be a Texas oilman was a lousy business. The rise of OPEC met the golden age of the Texas. wildcatter was over. You're George Bush looked for a way out of the Permian Basin in nineteen fifty eight. He moved to Houston to run an offshore drilling company called Zapata there. Air Bush got into politics and began to rise to the Republican race. Meanwhile the sixties grew worse and worse for those in the American old business. This domestic production declined while imports of Middle Eastern all skyrocketed. For the first time America grew dependent on foreign oil to meet meet its energy needs in nineteen seventy three during the Yom Kippur War between a coalition of Arab states and Israel OPEC issued an oil embargo oh on America and other Israeli allies over the next few months the price of oil jumped nearly four hundred percent America L. was in a full-fledged oil crisis it's the lowest point told becomes the highest point President Nixon began to tout a phrase that has been repeated by every US presidents residents since energy independence. The federal government pushed American oil companies to invest in domestic projects in skilled doc regulations to make it as cheap as possible to drill for all by the Mid Nineteen Seventy S. The Permian basin was booming. More than ever before a four. So we've got twenty dollars a barrel oil. Thank you OPEC. Now it's going to come up to twenty five thirty so so everybody and his dog is out there getting into the oil industry and your local dentist gets into oil. Your local auto dealer gets into oil. Everybody is out there Looking for oil and gas now. Profitable in nineteen eighty. Ronald Reagan won a landslide victory and on the ticket a Texas Oilman George H W Bush and back in West Texas. The oil business had never been better things peak in nineteen in eighty one. At which point economists out here still think that the boom has no end. We're GONNA not only see forty dollar a barrel oil. We're going to see eighty dollars a barrel while it seemed unbelievable but it seemed plausible. Canley CNN to this well. Oil is a diminishing in commodity. Take it out of the ground and it's going to take you many millions of years to replace. It has no place to go but up four months ago the price of West Texas crude oil was almost thirty. One dollars a barrel today. It was just over thirteen dollars for every dollar. The price robs Texas stands to lose a hundred million dollars in state revenue. You next time on boomtown the crash Boomtown is a CO production of entertainment. Texans executive producer is Jason produced and engineered by Brian Stanford. You also wrote the score. Boomtown is edited by J K Nickel and begging crite. Right Co reported by leak staff. Our theme song is written and performed by Cake Rossi. I'm your host and writer. Christian walls especial. Oh thanks to the DOLPH. 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Black Joy in the Summertime

Into America

30:49 min | 6 d ago

Black Joy in the Summertime

"During the summers of my childhood in south jersey when the sun was bright and i there were only a ways to escape the heat. There was the ice cream man but that was just a momentary fix and of course there was the log at clinton art. Our rinky little budget amusement park which was pure unadulterated chaotic bliss pricing. For all of us. But the one place i remember most fondly was at some leak tucked in the pine barrens. It was a lake filled with dark colored water with mushy patches and sharp sticks beneath your toes. Which you couldn't even see going to add. Some lake was treat for those of us who didn't have money for plane rides or rich relative to send for us at ads on. You didn't even pay per person to get in you paid per car so we pilot drive twenty minutes listening to w das. The local soul and rb station on the radio handover a few bucks when we arrived and the day was hours sandwiches baggies sour cream and onion chips cheap soda from and the polar your neighbors your cousins kids from school and most of us waiting in cool ugly amazing wooder until the sun went down. We're black and it was beautiful in some ways looking back. I can't help but think we were escaping more than the summer sun. We're finding the freedom to just be in a world where being black and free are not always congruent. Black folks in america have always found ways of escaping the strictures of this country's invisible in sometimes geographic racial boundaries and there are few more vivid illustrations of escapism than our summer traditions. Some were sent back down south to visit relatives others to grow trips along. Well-worn paths to places like at lake still others created havens that withdrawal on more than just black tourist or running from the heat of summer and the heat of racism black people have sought and built whole towns and resorts that became beacons. Black self sufficiency and independence. Were families could swim and vote and fish and be there fool selves in peace teachers and artists businessmen and women working and middle class. Folks flock the places with names. Like i'd awhile in michigan highland beach maryland open loves on martha's vineyard in massachusetts and bruce's beach in california. These black edens drew generations of upwardly mobile. Black people who are should out of white america during much of the twentieth century today just a few of these communities remain predominantly black if they remain at all they've been done in by desegregation. The evolving whims of a younger generation of black families and more recently gentrification with some of these havens have survived. Detention was removed. It was friendship and fun and games and solidarity. We stayed strong and we still a strong. I'm lee and this is into america today with summertime upon us. We explore that traditions and legacy of summering while black in one of the last enshrining black beach communities in the united states and historic enclave. In harbor on the island it was unusual. Vava gonna americans to find a place near the water on the or william pickens third spent almost his entire life. Going to sag harbor in the summers i as a kid then taking his own family out there for the season what age did you start going out there for two summers ten chance. And i'm almost eighty five. So i came out here and the tender age. When he retired he decided to live out their full time. I've been here twenty years. I was first one in my family to retire here. I met mr pickens back in two thousand eleven. When i wrote a story about sag harbor for the huffington post so i called him back up to talk about the importance of this place. It's history and his experience growing up in the black hamptons. I had an aunt who had a home here. She built in nineteen. Oh eight wow. I came out in live going to camp in the forties. I came to sag harbor. I didn't like camp too. Regimented came out here where i could fish and swim and run and bike and all that stuff. So what would that initial appeal one thousand nine hundred eight. America was a different place but lack folks were finding their way out there. What was the appeal of his bucolic country setting on the water so she liked it and heard about it and came out and bought a little house with outdoor plumbing. Not inside plumbing. We outhouse as school. I was all school but that was how our family i came to sag harbor hundred and thirteen years ago. It's still traveling from new york. Yeah from our home in brooklyn townhouse in brooklyn. The whole family was coming out. My mother would prepare lunch sandwiches and put it in ice. Put it on ice from the icebox. If you didn't ever refrigerate you had an ice box And we would load the car. We had a buick and dan would drive and along trip in those days. You didn't have all these superhighway's for our five hour trip. And they own gas stations. Every you know forty fifty miles and then we'd get to sang harbor and we'd unpack the car and go to the on by then we had our own home in nineteen fifty so we unloaded and began to enjoy the wonders of sag harbor. As a family it was country. Yeah far different. In brooklyn new you went from concrete to sand and dirt and noise to quiet those an enormous difference in the quality of life the space and the clean air and the stars at night in brooklyn. You had smoke coming out of chimneys need. Never saw the stars that here they were clarion clear. You could see beetlejuice. The little dipper in the big debut. See you can see them in new york as you can see matt out here and zang arbor and at one point. I knew all of all of the stars and that was years ago and my mind was a lot sharper for me was great change from brooklyn and i love it. How often would you go out there. Why came out in the summer days. No-one live here year. Round except the shinnecock and montauk at families pretty much but for african american families year round existence wasn't possible man so it was a summer retreat memorial day to labor day and that ninety day period was when you have family and friends come out. And that's how we did sag harbor and then one day in the fifties. Some guy named colin powell showed up from the bronx and we became friends and we both went into service later in our lives and he stayed and did pretty well. He did right from so i think he did call. Okay and what was somebody summer traditions that your family would take party well. We wrote our bikes. We have bb guns. We swam a lot a hit. The beach played baseball to jackie. Robinson just joined the dodgers so all the black kids out here in the indian kids shannon cox. We all playing baseball steinway. Jackie robinson as amazing. There were bicycle races in this kind of thing. But it's very simple nothing to elegant a strategic but fun and then it was some fishing trips. My father by boat and he died to go fishing for portuguese. And this kind of thing and adventure you hide and seek with the kids would say seek. And all the children's games that we brought out from brooklyn and the bronx per johnny on the pony and bring leo. We played those games out here and was fun in the woodland's because you could hide better than you. Canada and tenements brooklyn. Kids had more freedom. You weren't monitored you know twenty four seven and you learn a lot about yourself and your friends. There was more free time more your own time and you learn how to do things and had no experiment. If you didn't feel it you do something in brooklyn you could try it out here and it helps us all to grow into man you know. It sounds like a means to escape the hubbub of the city and city life but in many ways escaping racism and gaze of white folks. We black would come together and be who we are together. Is that accurate. Well removed the racial tension that is omnipresent in america. Where white resentment works. Its way into your daily living here. A community of people who knew each other at converse college together worked together. Lived together in queens or brooklyn or new jersey or connecticut so we did not have the police looking at us with eskin. And saying you know we don't really trust you guys you newcomers. We're going to keep an eye on you. Have that hugh. We did not have the daily tension of the the white power structure looking at us over our shoulder. Monitoring behavior can we were sort of a closed society. Here where are more raising folk ways. Webinars they weren't imposed on us. They were generated by us. Big difference big difference. Why were communities like these harbor safe spaces for black people back back then. The town was which is ninety nine percent white. There were workman in town. The plumbers and the architects. And you know you name it. Gas providers and our relationship became interesting because they needed our money because the war had ended and this town was struggling financially and black folks injected a lot of cash into the society so our relationship was fine but there wasn't much social event intercourse though. Yeah it was. The the african american families all sort of knew each other. They were just twelve at one point. Twelve families here in sag harbor hills but we all know each other including my grade school principal. He was here. Much to my chagrin. Left him in brooklyn. You bought a house right in front of ours. What did it mean to look and see this community. This is burgeoning community of hardworking industrious. Beautiful black people on veteran because you had judges and lawyers and doctors and dennis and you had bus drivers. You had taxi drivers you you know. We didn't have any differentiation. Among the professionals versus non professionals we were friends and family and your title did not matter did not matter and our first house guess was langston hughes the great writer and poet. He was my father's roommate in college and he came here in nineteen fifty two and read some poems. Was he just langston family friend. He's just call. You know he my mother very tight because they admitted i say nine hundred and five when he was a student and she encouraged him in poetry she incurs you write him and say he should should publish this and he'd back and have these letters rebecco. I'm not famous lock. Cajole him encourage. You am when he told my father. It meant this attractive woman in philadelphia. My dad talks on her out. And finally mariner shot. Let's let's stop the story as langston hughes with the matchmaker for your chance. You went back and told me there was this and philadelphia. Gotta meet it and got gotta made him and he merrin merrin wanna marry but his father said you gotta finish law school first before you use. I leave her out there available. Maria's area so they made a deal he married one thousand nine hundred thirty while he was still in in law school. Run away the graduation in nineteen thirty two. He's off fox fox out there. Hello so anyway but langston was instrumental in putting them together. Music is when all this is going on colin powell's a friend of yours got langston that you realize then even as a child there was something special about where our i took it as sort of ordinary because my parents friends and colleagues. They weren't celebrities. But we never thought that this was such as super special place that we were so different from our friends back in brooklyn. When did you start to grow. Why grew in a sixty started growing in the late sixties was during july of one thousand nine hundred sixty two. I just had three and japan. came back. I do the air force and bailout getting married. I was thinking about coming back and set a bachelor pad nine hundred sixty two that i spotted some beautiful girl walking up the beach an orange bathing suit. You can still see colleague. And she had shades on and she was beautifully ten. And i said to one of my old friends young lady. Who hadn't seem you're who and he's pat brandon. I said where's she live. She's from way down there and none of ice said walk. Introducing the tour is there are no you go introduce yourself right. I did and i want confronted her. She's one on the water and went to introduce myself and said about a movie date in that that was in A partnership that was formed right here. The waters agents saying harbor. So i only want to say harbor. Say it's amazing. how much you. Life is kind of intertwined entangled with sag harbor front. That's right saying arbor an sitting there. You know drinking a beer. Who couldn't i found out who dad was america and we were married for fifty one years. We'd be married fifty seven She had lived. You became an adult and married and had your kids out there. What are some of the members you have a brain year keys because our first born was a daughter pam and she had a first birthday party year. Second birthday party here. She's at a party because he was born june first so we celebrate in sag harbor routinely her birthday and my son's came out here and they were born and have enjoyed going up. Here this is. This is a part of their life that they don't want to give up in central tehran. Being after the break. Mr pickens talks about the origins of the black community instead harbor and we also hear from his son john stick with us can remember the feeling you got as a kid getting tucked into bed or the feeling you get now in the arms of somebody you love safe and secure is a feeling of security. That only comes through human connection. And that's why the people at simplisafe home security are so important of course simplisafe has an award-winning system. That has all the technology bells and whistles. You'd expect these days but the people simply safe really take it to the next level there around the clock anytime you need them. Whether it's fire of a medical emergency a burst pipe or even a problem while you're setting up. the system. simplisafe has person with the expertise. You need ready to help. Twenty four seven. And when you know there's always someone there to help. Well that's a feeling you just don't kit with meal security system to find out how simplisafe can make you feel safe insecure at home visit simplisafe dot com slash dateline today the customize your system and get a free security camera. That's sim plli essay f. E. dot com slash dateline today. And we're back with william pickens step back a little bit to go further back in history. Obviously through as you mentioned the sixties the black community harbor was right. You all out there. Bunch. but what about black folks and sega harbor period like how did we. I get out there and win. Because of the whaling industry willing was the economic arm of sag harbor in eighteen thirties you needed to have men who would be willing to go for a year and a half away from america to weigh all gone to the pacific. They had to go around south america. No panama canal. So you when you signed on the ship here. A few blacks from africans cape verde islands harlem brooklyn token number became shipmates on these wailing craft and they would be gone for eighteen months but that was really the first african presence in sag barbara. So you're going back to nineteen th century but by nine thousand nine hundred. John hope the great scholar from georgia as wife went from savannah georgia to say harbor by boat. She was going to live in new york but she got off the boat and sag harbor and liked it so much that she rented a room and built a house as the middle class black folk and the university folks heard about saying harbor. John hope grade scholar and then my aunt who was a teacher heard about it and they were friends she was friendly was this woman is hope because she had taught to test gigi and gave her the idea. We'll come on out so it started very small. It wasn't over thirties. That more african americans came to sag harbor and there was a schoolteacher who started technical high school and he came out and built four or five little cottages for his friends and rented them out and that started more volume of coming to say harbor back in the thirties. The depression was on so folks. Weren't taken fans investigations right harbor afforded you a fishing opportunity in cantata coming out by train and boat to check it out but you weren't buying property. The property was not for sale. That didn't happen till after world. War two an all new land became available so sag harbor as we understand. It is long island but kind of talk to us about the black beach communities within arbor. Well there three beachfront communities as your rest which was the first one. I was founded in nineteen forty seven by two sisters and all started very innocently after world. War two all. This land was available and the people who owned it needed money. Sagar wilson came along the owners. Here this family from virginia they owned all property that we have here now and he saw. Okay i'll do what they're doing and as you rest and find a lot of willing customers if the price is right who african american. That's how this happened and never was impulsive. Came through my father-in-law who helped sell the lots to all his friends. None of a beach. Gimme four or five hundred bucks and we get ourselves some property and they did the thing that made this different. Was that you own the water front. You couldn't do that in a-plus or a while but here you can own the bay front. You can actually own property that would guard against on the beach. That was the fundamental difference. And that's why the beachfront lots went really fast. He because the men and women recognized his glorious opportunity. We had our own beach and that was a big difference beach front. Ownersh you folks in the community been able to hold onto that sense as a change at all. Well it's it's changed a little bit. But i think there's a determination now that the families who can stay here we'll stay because to replace. This is almost impossible. It was wonderfully accessible for us but now it's accessible. Everybody and all we can do is guard against the encroachment by staying here and paying our bills paying taxes improving our properties That's the only way we're going to survive this. You know what. What percentage of your neighbors are black now like i'm more say what percentage of your neighbors white now has the demographics of the place dramatic change in community one of the communities at fifty five forty five now white at seventy thirty so seventy thirty one community is gone over that the stakes are that high though. If if you don't hold onto it it'd be going for all gone once it's gone. Forget to buy to buy back. Forget house for hundred thousand and now it's going to cost three million back. I mean that's the economics of the day. That's a threat. it's a threat. It was no interest from the larger community until maybe twenty five years ago. They were by never turn off the highway to see what's going on over here right. This is a black enclave. Maybe thought it was dangerous. Or maybe the waste of time. But it wasn't until the mid ninety s that the white population began to look safe harbor as an investment opportunity. So it's about twenty five years. The first fifty. Hey l. problem Because i want to ask you this. Your family's has been there for so long. And i wonder when you reflect on it all your hope for your family's legacy instead arbor francois. I wanted to continue. I'd like my children grandchildren and continue to enjoy this place because it is so special and accessible. I do have some worries about the future. I feel attached to this place. And i children are attached to this place and at attachment is so strong that i'm sure they'll move resist long as hard as they can Vacating this land. I my hope is that My great great great grandchildren have shot. Those plays and i just have one grandchild. Oh you got to get to work john. Hello is is he right there. John right there. you're here. Mr pickings his son. John was sitting next to him helping with recording amid john on the beach in sag harbor ten years ago. He's the one who hooked me up with his dad. So i got him in on the conversation. Also how you feel man hanging in there. Yeah well want to ask you ma. Obviously you know talking to your father about the legacy of your family out. There is pressure on you and your family. I don't have any kids. i don't have a wife. thank you this man. Made miracles out here literally found his wife made a life and still had brooklyn's still queen still had harlem in existence. So now we're here. We're just trying to still shelving alive and a living place. It's not a dying place you don't come here to die. You come here to live here to see your friend you come here to run outside you come here to take your shoes off you. Come here to let your dogs run you know. Come to hide you. Come here to thrive when you think about your generation the next generation are you concerned that folks will sell off and folks will look for the money and not be able to hold onto. It is a real concern. You have some like that. And then but then you have other generations where their their families are working hard to keep. This see is different for us because it didn't cost us. This was already given to us. We had to maintain and that's a costume itself but for us it's maintaining our own piece of life in our own piece of liberty in our own piece of justice and this is where we found it and this is where we've carved it out for everyone else so you don't have to come in and fight to earn these things because the respect is already understood the thing about these kids they don't change if you don't change the knox status saying that's the key to my grandma had to the door because it's the same. Wow yeah how was growing about their changed you. Well it's changed me in in. That is just giving me a well rounded experience. I mean it. It might be something more of a privilege but it's an experience it's like being able to come out and see your neighbors and know your neighbors but how your neighbors know and see you. Yeah they have to see you out on the water in join it. They had to see you driving down the beach to know that you're here enjoying rights and privileges not excluded from anything. The doors opened and the love is real. And this is god's country we are still in god's country without freedom there is no joy and we have found and freedom picking. What's it like when you hear your son. John described his experience and how much is meant to him. What does it mean when you hear him. Speak about this community that you helped kind of nurture and build. Well it means that it worked at the time and effort. We put in to establish this as a viable community over the last several decades. That that feeling Has emerged out children and grandchildren that boy. We're lucky pretty lucky. To have this and are alive and we have to figure out a way to preserve it and nurture it though. When i hit my son john extolling virtues. Place i smile william pickens. The third lives in sag harbor new york and we always love hearing from our listeners. Said don't forget you can tweet me at. Mainly that's at tre mainly my full name or write to us at into america at nbc. You and i dot com. That was into america at nbc and the letters u. n. i dot com into. America is produced by isabel angel. Alison bailey bryson barnes. Aaron don max jacobs and ice turner. Original music is by. Hannah's brown our executive producer is ellen brakeman. Entre may leave. We'll catch you next day

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Put A Little Ng In Your Corona

Bad In The Boondocks

44:04 min | 2 years ago

Put A Little Ng In Your Corona

"On today show. We talk about the twisted lives and deeds. Leonard lake and Charles ING. And also. One corona. This is bad in the boondocks. Would. Hey, they're out there. Welcome to bad in the boondocks as always. I'm one of your host stand. And I'm drew and we're so glad you're here. Yeah. You really sound like it. I'm trying to be more swamp. Okay. Not like the conditioner shampoo swamp. Today. We haven't see we have a wonderful, Charles ING, which I find amazing that his last name is spelt. N G. And Leonard lake. And Andrew's going gonna do a little one corona. Take a nice sip of that. Why don't you? Distraught off with please. Fist are patriarch page. Join one of our three tiers, you'll get excellent cool perks guttural website, W W W dot bad in the boondocks dot com. There you can catch on every platform that you can listen to us at you can get in touch with us. 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It only takes a second or two to do it. I mean, say you rock instead of. Are just say, hey, I want us to do some cool things with y'all. That sounded so vulgar. Well, may who knows if you're into it, I guess, we do we had a friend. You ready? Death of James Taylor today. Sure. All right. All right. You ready? I was born ready. Well, is your turn to go? I, I don't think it is. Yeah, when I last time, that's what she said. Okay. Well, as I said, I'm gonna do Leonard lake Charles ING a very unlikely duo. I feel. But they got along very well. And we're very well, one's a fat weird white man, and he's not easily blow overweight, and then your other ones, crazy Asian. From an early age. Charles in was a loner. Born in Hong Kong in nineteen sixty eight was beaten as a child and developed a serious case of klepto mania as a teenager. What is that? One may ask. Are you asking? Yeah. It means he's stole stuff. He loved to steal go cou which I selected him from any potential friends. We're not kleptomaniacs. We won't friends. Yeah. Inc was also a lifelong troublemaker, however, no one could possibly guess that the social outcast with sticky fingers would eventually spiral into sadistic serial killing alongside his friend Lynn on lake. That's how does this Leonard this? You won't pay you on my free in late. By the age of fifteen had been expelled from several schools, and arrested for shoplifting. His strict father had had enough and sent him off to boarding school in England matters did not improve overseas ING resumed stealing from fellow students and was once again, expelled and return to Hong Kong at eighteen Charles ING stuck struck out on his own, he obtained a student visa to attend college in California. Although he dropped out just after one semester around this time in met Leonard lake who was fifteen years older than him through a war gamer advertisement lake had placed an amazing while. Although we can only speculate, what went down at this meeting. What we do know is that the two men had more than just gaming interesting calming both had an affinity for violence that would prove deadly inks trouble with the law continued in. He was implicated in a hit and run accident to avoid being charged for the crime in listed in the Marine Corps as short lived stint, and he was kinda short Hanno. He was arrested in nineteen eighty for stealing military weapons, then escaped imprisonment. Ing began the solitary unstable life of drifter and reached out to lake for a place to stay when the law finally caught up to in. He was living in a mobile home in California with lake where the two had stashed illegal explosives. Inc was dishonorably discharged from the military and served eighteen months for his theft, and desertion upon his release ING and lake were reunited lake had just the place for them to stay his small rented cabin in the remote hills of Sierra Nevada, where he had built a torture chamber. While inc. Certainly wasn't what you'd call a good person Leonard lake was doubly depraved as a young boy, he killed mice with chemicals, coerced, his sisters into making homemade porn and was frequently caught stealing similar to Inc. He wasn't ex-marine that tends to be a lot of killers. Either army or marine. Will. I mean I guess they're like looking for something whenever they enlist. But don't get the fulfillment. Or are they looking for Pokemon or something? No, there's you know there's a lot of times I don't fit in anywhere. So they enlist there, because like they're getting kicked out of their home and then down ever last. Because their issues that they have quote unquote. Yeah. Usually tend to get him kicked out it don't really fit in there either. Similar to aim. He was the Knicks marine though. He received a medical discharge due to his spiral into mental illness, after suffering a delusional break now while serving in Vietnam, lake was officially diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder emotionally apathetic and unable to empathize or form social attachments, lake was married twice his first marriage crumbled due to his upset with filming core. Beady SM pornography. See, I don't understand how these people can get Mary, and you hang out, you can get somebody. If a like. Assist a lot of time and work build into it's you heard it here for folks. Chef. Shefa with his second wife, agreeing to appear in many of his films. And she was quite the character nicknamed. Cricket are, however, it seemed like Charles might be the exception to lakes. Antisocial tendencies in nineteen Eighty-four in joined lake at his cabin. Where tiny neighboring structure had already been outfitted as a dungeon for slaves. It was here that the two friends, tortured raped, and murdered. At least twenty five people from neighbors to co workers to young children, both male and female that kept a record of everything. They did videotaping their torture sessions and describing them in journals that investigators later recovered from buried bucket. And I'm just gonna tell you if you dig. It is available to see the lost tapes of some of these tortures and killings. Yeah. It's like the real thing. So authorities suspect that lake had also killed his own brother sometime before the vicious killing spree that took over two dozen lives there. Downfall though, came on June second nineteen eighty five when eating was caught shoplifting from hardware store. Stupid. Ing. It was lake who returned to the store and gave back the Nick Adam, but he was quickly found himself, the target of police suspicion when his only form of identification was a driver's license that actually belong to a missing person Ono. This wasn't unusual for lake who had a habit of selling his victims, personal belongings and stealing their identities in order to collect checks in their name, and turn a profit off his brutal murders. Authorities examined lates car. He was arrested for carrying a gun with a silencer and his vehicle, which was stolen from one of the dead, victims, ultimately led police to the scene of his worst crimes a nightmare awaited fragmented. Human remains were scattered across the property. That's end this. That's why they were. Nicknamed or dubbed the bone yard killer. Yeah. Yeah. Knowing that the jig was up Leonard lake chose to take his own life by swallowing cyanide pill that he had smuggled in jail with him aim was left to fend for himself. And he fled the country years later inks cover was blown in Canada when he attempted to shoplift. A can of salmon, are you serious serious Inga's really causing a lot of trouble? Klepto mania for with other ones already dead. But like. A long legal process in sued as Inc. Fault extradition to the US pleading with Canadian officials not to release him to a country where he could face the death penalty. However his efforts to evade Justice proved futile aim was extradited back to the United States in nineteen ninety one where he refused legal counsel and represented himself in the murder trial. Never good idea in less. You're like a top notch. Lawyer self don't do that in nineteen ninety nine eight was sentenced to death for eleven of the twelve dungeon slayings and unsurprising verdict considering the amount of evidence stacked against him. Of course, there was the graphic video footage and diaries. It belied ings argument that lake was the real perpetrator of the crimes while he was merely little observer, not really know at the time of his trial ING refused to take responsibility for what transpired and decorated his jail cell with cartoons. He had drawn victims when now lake normally did like the physical work as in lane meeting. Beating or knocking out the victims being also started subduing stuff victims. I saw it in the tape yet. But like if you watch the tapes is normally. Yeah. I mean definitely little like was the enormity was boss. He was the ball. He normally gets the guys. Yeah. All right. You can you can go he still sits on death row. True crime author Don less cedar covers the case in his book die for me which rehashes all the details of what became one of California's most heinous crimes. The following excerpt introduces readers to one of the victims eighteen year old Kathy Allen. She was murdered just two months before the authorities found in in lake spree on April twelve nineteen eighty five her boyfriend might disappeared without trace, leaving Kathy worried about the state of their relationship and eventually his life. When an anonymous caller informed her that Mike had been shot. She immediately rushed to rescue him per the caller suggestion only to find herself trapped in Charles ING and Leonard lakes dungeon of horrors. And this is an expert. That same Sunday evening. James Baeau, who described himself as a quote unquote. Very good. Friend of Kathy Allen answered his phone and could barely make out her worried voice Kathy Toby. Oh, about troublesome, call at the store, but whispered that she couldn't talk much at that moment, because there was someone in the room with her at the best in, in Milpitas. She sounded like she was in a hurry. And she said, she couldn't talk to me. Baeau explains probing his memory about the mysterious conversation bay. Oh, could still hear Cathy's words about a man who had arrived to pick her up and take her to Mike, but the guy was kind of weird, and he talked about wanting to take pictures of her James Bay. Oh, ask Cathy to call when she arrived at her destination, and Kathy promised that she would a few hours later, the Kathleen Allen found herself in terrifying. Circumstances unable to telephone anyone in the hour. Side world, a video camera recorded segments of her nightmares. Predicament as the tiny red light on the camcorder blinked Kathy sat in a will warn Brown fabric recliner, chair her legs crossed. She wore a white jersey with red short sleeves dark pants, and black boots handcuffs bound, her wrists together behind her back. She sat perfectly steel with annulment expression owner face. She was saying, nothing perhaps she was in a state of shock, or perhaps she was unable to comprehend the extent of danger and her right? A table lamp, bathe the room in a soft, amber, glow illuminating the wall behind her, which was covered with photographic mural, depicting the flaming colors of forest in autumn from behind the camera. The voice of Leonard lake filled the room. He says. Mike os. A hint of threat was in his words, he can't pay now. We're going to give you a choice Kathy. This is probably the last choice that we're gonna give you can go along with us. You can cooperate you can do everything we tell you to do willingly at an approximately thirty days. If you want a date to ride on your calendar. The fifteenth of may, we will either druggy blindfold, you are some way of another make sure you don't know where you are, and where you're going, and take you back to the city and let you go. And what you say at that time, I don't care, my name, you don't know it. His name is Charlie. But screw it lake made reference to another man, who emerged from the shadows, and the dimly lit room short black haired, Asian dressed in dark colors lake war. A tan knit sweater he entered the camera brain knelt to adjust the bonds on her ankles and moved back. Alternately threatening infirm tomes, then softly, cajoling switching from bad to good guy. And then back again lake said, you don't know where you are. And what you say, hopefully, can't hurt us and by then hopefully might Willett disappeared gracefully. Obviously, I'm telling you this, because we'll have no control over what you say or how you say it, once you're gone if you don't who operate with us. If you don't agree this evening, right now to cooperate will probably put around three ahead and take you out bear you in the same area that we buried, Mike, Kathy's facial expression, remained frozen, even though she had just heard devastating news about her lover. He continues we do this just because we're we admit it scared nervous. We never planned on fucking up much less getting caught and were not intended to get caught is the old no witnesses sucrose little crew. But that's where it's at while you hear you'll give us information on Mike in terms of his brother Bank accounts, who we need to write to making things, grit or probably have you write some letters to the guy is foster brother and tell him some bullshit, story about how you and Mike have moved off to Timbuktu. And he's got a job doing this and that and doing something else. And basically, we won't bays my call just sort of move him over the rising, and let people know that yet might moved off to God knows where. That semi acceptable. If anyone wonders. No one's going to wonder too hard logging here. We'll keep you busy 'cause let me tell you, you'll wash force your cling farce cook for us. And okay, you'll fuck farce that your choice in a nutshell Darlan, not much of choice. Let you got a death wish. Still sitting perfectly still Kathy tried to speak for her vocal cords constructed in her words fail. She could only manage. No. I don't particularly do. The Asian man whom lake it called Charlie muttered something unintelligible, but lake smothered him out with another effort to put his captivity, actually Cathy. I like you. I didn't like lion to you, whether you believe it or not. That's not important. The fairness of watcher gonna do is not up for debate. We're not worried about whether you're fair or we're fair or whether we're good. We're just worried about ourselves selfish bastards, maybe he'll probably think of worse names for us in the next four weeks. But that's where it's at in the last twenty four hours. We've been tired nervous little hostile. Perhaps, we expect you to do something about that believe me. We both need it. If you go along with us and cooperate will be as nice as we can to within the limits keeping you a prisoner. If you don't go along with us. Well, we're going to take into the bid tie you down rape you. Good shoot. You bury. Sorry, lady time's up make choice. Jesus Christ motionless Kathy forced words through her dry mouth. Well. Have to be available. Spell it out for so tape league demanded I wanna hear it from your own lips. I can't spell it out with spurred, she don't know how to spell go along with whatever you want. That's all we wanted to hear. Said late Mike was such an ask. Kathy attempted to reply to the insult, butterflies, failed understand, lake said, in mock sympathy either he lied to your you lied to us. You can believe this, or you don't have to believe it. It has nothing to do with anything. Mike was getting ready to drop you. He said, she was clinging on the him, you Rask and things of that he didn't want parents. That writing is a tension to his Asian cohort lake asked today. Wasn't today yesterday? We're turning to his taunting of the helpless woman. Lay continued Mike Catt some woman in the motel giving him a blow job. Again, this is what he said, whether or not it's true or not. I don't know he could have been lying to us struggling again to speak. Kathy could only gas. His voice betraying enjoyment of verbal torture lake said the whole K, then maybe he just liked hall can be he thought he was imprisoned us, he would. He was discussed in us. Do you got the keys to her curves? Charlie? A hall. Affirm charlie? Stand up Cathy, if we're low clumsy this forgive us lower forgive us stay on your feet on dress forest. We wanna see what we got. Undress for you fear and disbelief sounded in our throat. Take your blouse off Kathy. Take your bra off. They're not all that bad take chains off. Kathy them began to disrobe Charlie the muttered now. What do you think addressing lake he asked hooting take our pants off? Sure thing, Charlie will run our through the shower. I go to Charlie said, oh, you wanna take a shower with lake seemed amused. If you want to sit down Kathy. The Asian than said this is all surprisingly cool operative. Gosh, why cou operative Charlie? And then the Kathy he said, we're prepared to do practically anything to get you to greet with us. I'm glad she made all of that unnecessary, but a few ground rules, Kathy. We're real serious about this. You do what you toll now cooperate with us. It won't be any problems. If you create problems what, so ever, you could they will die. Keep undressed police Kathy. Alert to the threat of death. Charlie said the pieces on the table. Apparently reminding lake of a handgun lying nearby lake said, OSCE Chari. Charlie seem to be concentrating on the possibility of joining the captive in the shower slurred as next few words, you didn't get the shower Shida time limits. Ignoring him lake folks, don't Cathy, as she rose to continue, removing clothing keep going Kathy. He commanded barely able to speak Cathy said you'll have to excuse me being shy. Sorry. No, no. I can understand suits lake but don't be shy. You're gonna take good shower. Now joining in the actively more audibly Charlie commented. It's won't be first time won't be the last time. Patronizing late chatted his partner. Don't make it hard for Charlie watching Kathy has she stood only in her underpants? He urged her own panties to Kathy. I don't want to have to make an example of what we need to do to make you cool operate now. Do completely vulnerable standing naked after removing her last garment Cathy said I realize that. Then then please cooperate. Go ahead. Charlie? As all three left the camera's view Leonard lake spoke, one last time when you get out. They'll be slippers outside of the and the camera stops at this point. But the torture had not ended the video camera. Would record two more devastating episodes in the final few days. Kathleen, Allen's eighteen years of life. That's kind of heroin. And you can see that online, if you look it up at an is very odd or it's so much more disturbing than just here in the but the sad part to me, the story is. Charlie Charles in. He's never going to be executed may know he's still sits on death row. Because California has not executed anyone since two thousand six they now have im seven hundred and something people on death row yet. And the first one that was, and they're continuing being put on death row in cost over a million a year just a house, personal year. So, like this day, the chores seven hundred you've got to go through seven hundred people and the haven't done any since xactly. They're never going to get him. There's no way. And that to me is, what is more disturbing than anything that we're paying all this money and they didn't care anything about their victims yet? We're supposed to be civil to them. And maybe I'm wrong for thinking that, but I don't care where needed throw them all on an island together. Just just make him jump out. No, I tell you what make him jump out. The plane without appear shoot. That's a good idea in the middle of nowhere. But. I want to hear what y'all thoughts on it is. How do you feel about the death penalty cases like this get in touch with us? Send us a message on bad in the boomed doubts dot com. And let me know I feel like they need to be the same tortured that they inflicted on other people. So you think I for nine of always thought that always, I don't, I don't care who it is. If you do something, somebody else on Ming, I, I'm definitely not into this whole let, soothe them before we stick needle and let them, so humanely exact and cared nothing things. They don't feel a thing whenever they and like with these people, you know that they are guilty. You know they did it its own. Oh, yeah. See because now. I don't know some people understand because some are innocent, but not whenever you had the videos, but now whenever you know, one hundred percent sure that they did it there, there's no way out of it. Okay. That's the story of Charles eating and Leonard late, like I said kidding touch with us. Shoot us a message and let us know. How you feel about cases like this. Oh, yeah. And now drew is you've got something for us. Yeah. Do. All right. Thank you. Got a little corona. Work one, corona. Yes. Sure do. And that was named after the drink. No, he was not sure. Yes. All right. So one corona was born in nineteen thirty four in Alton in the state of Jalisco Mexico, he entered the United States in nineteen fifty when he was only sixteen crossing the border into California, when he crawls Stover corona pick carrots in melons in the imperial valley. That's all never dead air people Bahare in Milne's. That makes sense. He did this for three months until he moved to the north of the Sacramento valley. Coronas half, brother. Now Vidadi Koroma had moved to feel California in nineteen forty four to work in settled down in may of nineteen fifty three Nabi dot convince corona to move to Marysville in. He found work on a local ranch, corona then met in married Gabriella her moslo on October. Twenty fourth nineteen fifty three in Reno, Nevada. Once that ended in nineteen fifty nine he found another. Another woman who he married named Gloria Moreno? And they have four daughters together all offers. Yeah. In, in December of nineteen fifty five though of flood occurred on the feather river, which was nixed Marysville and broke the Levy, which allowed the rushing water to Floyd hundred fifty square miles, killing thirty eight people. Wow. Yeah. But strangely after this event corona was greatly affected by the death and destruction which call him to have a mental breakdown. He believed now did kill any of his family on. No, no. It did not. But he believed that everyone must gone from the Floyd in there was no one left, but ghost. So he was seeing ghosts everywhere. Okay. So he goes. No. He was just seeing him. So he was suffering from an episode. Schizophrenia on January seventeenth nineteen fifty six in then novel Dodd sent him to the do at state hospital. The do it. Yeah. In all burn, California where they diagnosed him with a schizophrenic reaction paranoid tight win. Was this in the fifty forty fifty? This isn't fifty six. Yeah. That they didn't have very good diagnosis that. Well, after his diagnosis he was given twenty three shop treatments in them was announced recovered in released three months later. If nothing else I mean, he should have been somewhat bright reset after twenty shock treatment. Oh, yeah. You know, Rosty was even still now bad that would hurt that can fifties. That was not a very pleasant note was not, not like today's will after this incident corona was sent back to Mexico, but returned not long after with the green cord. Once he returned. He had stopped drinking, not head many schizophrenic episodes and was said to be very her worker in nineteen sixty two became a licensed labor contractor in was said to be. Will he is in charge of hiring workers to feel the local fruit ranches? But during the sellers, fruit range, and picking cares. Milnes while during the sign people reported him being rude, and having anger issues with gay people with gay men. Well, Naveh's blonde his way way now out Seth broiler was gay. Oh, his wife. His wife half, brother. No thought Navidad was his wife. Nahvi dot is his half-brother. Oh, yeah. Now we have further sorry if you hear that Tucker. 'cause don't nobody ever learn how to babysit. Can you tell everybody? Hey, you tell them pain? Hey, you don't wanna tell. Well, now the own the quarter Lahore cafe in Marysville, and on the morning of February twenty fifth nineteen seventy a young man named Jose Ryo was found brutally attacked with a machete in the restroom of the cafe. He was found at one AM by customer with his head and face gruesomely hacked when Noddy. Yeah, when Nava was informed he called the police road away, but Jose was still love, and he was, oh, I don't neither. But he fell for lawsuit against Nevada for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And this calls Nava to sale is business in return bet in Mexico. Amort nineteen seventy corona was omitted to do it state hospital again for treatment in a year later, he'd been through on a will he applaud for welfare, because there was hardly any ranch were, or form work available. Prostate could even work after all the shop treatments. And, and the. The rather bashing Mia. His application was not because he owned to two houses in had money in the Bank have the after houses. I don't know. I know that could be pieces of shit. They probably were. Will that same year of former who had hired corona to work for him in the past noticed a freshly dug hole in a peach orchard, and the next day he went back to look at it in it was filled with dirt? So the former call the police after becoming suspicious in they found a man's body that had been hacked. They searched the area in another grade. They found receipts that had gone that corona signature had on and the Bank of America slits with Corona's name and address on. So they had a pile of evidence against him. And then they also found seven on seven other bodies, along with the Sipe hall. No. They, they were spread out bread org. Yeah. On may twenty six they had a really good, harvest peaches, vague. With fertilize. Yeah. From the. Yeah. Just got that wasn't really listening to you. Really slow. Yeah. No witnesses told police that they had seen victims running in Corona's pickup truck and on may twenty six nineteen seventy-one police went to grow on his place with a search warrant to search for him there, they Orissa krona in how steak. Are you talking about one? Yes. Okay. Whatever happened to was name. Nabi danica. As far as on. No, he moved to Mexico coasts. He didn't wanna pay the money to the man. So, yeah. They Orissa corona in confiscated all the evidence that linked him to the murders. Like to bloodstain lives, a machete a pistol and closed that have bloodstains on. There was also a work ledger that contained thirty four names and dates on it. I feel now that I'm sorry for with this, but I feel if you're gonna kill somebody to best white do it, what wear is naked and put Saran wrap all over your body. Do you know how difficult that is? I put Saran wrap home for. Yeah. We have, but not for the same reasons but I'm just saying if not that difficult. But then that would keep all your hair and stuff from getting on the stuff, which also would have close. Pretty good. But then you would just look stupid killing Yellen. Who cares they'd be? They would be laughable that you look stupid. Whenever you go to jail day. It would be laugh. Oh my gosh. Will there was a work ledger in that contained thirty four names in dates on it, including the seven on victims, which the prosecution suspected of being a death list of the top of the TOMS the men were murdered? Turns out corona had been supplying workers to the ranch where the victims were found. He has some of the workers in a bunk house on the Sola ranch, where most the victims were discover corona was given a public defender, ROY Hoover, who had many psychological tests done on him the sheriff stated that he was in no apparent thrift from the townspeople, but he still sent him to a bigger jail on may thirtieth nineteen seventy-one for security reasons. On june. Second Gerona was returned to southern county for arraignment where he pleaded not guilty and a preliminary hearing was set when the search for the buddies ended on June fourth, there was a total of twenty five male bodies found, but could have been more on victims buried other places corona was the income victims of twenty five counts of first degree murder in nineteen seventy three but an appeals court overturned the conviction in nineteen seventy eight or because. Yeah, because of incompetent legal representation and set him a neutral in nineteen eighty two. The year I was born. Yeah. At this time, he again, was found guilty of all the murders in given a life sentence in the Caracas state prison. You think Iraq? After this. He had to be hospitalized twice from, from suffering from heart attacks. He spent this time at the sensitive, knee Jorde because of suffering from dementia. The sensitive need Yar. Yeah. Never heard of that will. He now died not too long ago from natural close causes of on March fourth two thousand nineteen. Wow. That was really recent. Yeah. No, it was. He really soon. So that's all got. That was good. Thank you. Yours was better. I really love the dialogue. You went from different people try. Try try. Okay. That's well, that's all we've got a think. I mean we always have mobile, but we got a saving got say for next week, so stay tuned. For next eighteen dollars week long. No. But, but if you've been aware next week's over over to an episode that would actually really help us out. Great really would or be greater if you skip parts. Don't exit off of the actual episode. Go ahead and go to the end. Yeah. But listen, listen. What would help us out, even more is to get in touch with us and give some friend or listen to the all the episodes. Yeah, that great too. Yeah. Anna Rayton are review. But if you really don't. 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Kinda Cute -Ep 50- Wayfair Conspiracy, Free Britney, Alissa Turney was Murdered?, Moldy Sqirl Jam

"It's kind of cute right. Alone and welcome back to Kinda cute, and if you are new here, welcome. My name is Bailey event. I'm your host on kind of cute. We discussed articles from the cut and my general pop culture musings. y'All it is episode of fifty I am just so happy, and because I'm so thankful to every single one of you. There's even listen to one moment of this podcast over the last forty nine episodes. I'm about to put you on something real quick. Okay. I am drinking a drink that is from one of my favorite local restaurants called Hullaballoo they have. This drink called the John Lennon. I posted on my instagram. Stories hoods like my favorite local drink. So I decided tonight that I was going to recreate myself and guys. It is so easy and I'm sharing it with you now. Let This Represent Our fiftieth episode celebration. Okay, so this is how you do it. You make a little simple syrup. I use a trivia granulated sugar. Blend that I buy at Publix. You can just use granulated sugar. You could use a sugar replacement. Whatever you make a simple syrup. It's always one part sugar to one part water, and you're going to heat that up till the sugar dissolves. Then you're going to dice up some strawberries and some you're gonNA take. Some basil leaves like a whole big bunch. You all just eyeball this. You know like whatever you're having I. Put a fair amount of strawberries. I put a little bunch of Basil. I let it soak in the symbol syrup. I used one cup of Water One cup of a half. A Cup of my trivia blend. It's not one one because it's Trivia Open. You don't care. But then you take some limes. Squeeze those puppies. You'RE GONNA. Take some vodka. You're gonNA take the vodka. You're gonNA take the lime juice. You're going to take your simple syrup mix like just the juice from the simple syrup not junked parts. You're going to put it in a cocktail shaper. Shake it up. Then you're gonNA poured over ice. You're going to add some fresh strawberries, fresh basil, and some of your soaked strawberries and Basil guys. This drink is so delicious it down so well. Can you vouch? She says one hundred percent. It's amazing. I added on the. It's amazing part, but just trust me guys, so that is my gift to you again. Thank you guys so much for all fifty of you. Literally. That's not me like being humble. It's really about fifty of you for listening all of these weeks and Writing written reviews subscribing me on Apple Hannukah's giving me a five-star ratings hint hint, it's been a wild ride and I'm just so happy to be audio all right. Let's get into our little pop culture updates before we get into our articles. I up Brooklyn Beckham son of Victoria and. Beck Bennett. was like bend it like Beckham. Back yes David Beckham. There sign is engaged to Nikola pultz. Now, I? Don't know how well known this is, but well first off. Let's say that Brooklyn is only twenty one nicholas twenty five, so she's coup. Bring a little bit She has a billionaire dad. His name is Nelson Peltz. He's kind of your typical. You know, Hedge, Fund Managing Uber Rich billionaire and like every billionaire. He has a house in Palm Beach. We've talked about before high live in West. Palm beach the trump side of lady and the tramp. Where Palm Beach is the lady and he has a huge complex. I'm calling it a complex because it's just so huge I see photos of it. She posts photos of it a lot actually, and it just has like it's on the beach. Has All of this land these palm trees and He Nelson. Recently hosted a huge trump fundraiser at his mansion, and this was notable, because usually when trump has fundraisers in palm beach. He obviously has them at Mar a lago so I'll let you make of that what you want to All I'm saying is that in two thousand seventeen nicloas dating Anwar had deed, so it seems a little fast to me and I. Never think it's a good idea to get married at twenty one especially on the boy side because a boy at twenty one mentally is like fifteen max like on a good day. He is fifteen. It is proven that a man's frontal cortex frontal lobe, but does not fully developed until he's twenty six years old. So you know if any onions out there listening maybe hold off until those frontal lobes are fully developed in your decision. Making processes are a little bit better. Okay guys. I JUST WANNA. Tell you about that. Because I I hadn't heard that talks about much in the pop culture world, but I felt like it was worth noting. Next up! Guys is this is a lot to get into. I don't even know where to start. The, wayfair conspiracy all right to give you a little recap them. Sorry, if you've already been inundated with information about this. But the concept that I at least thought through facebook posts, it was this girl, and she was like I just went down a hole on facebook and I'm so sorry, I always credit people, if I know and remember where I got it from, but with this and I'm going to talk about free Britain today. I looked at so many sources in so many things. It's all just a jumble. My mind, so I'm kind of just speaking to you from memory right now. So the overarching, though is that wayfair had certain items that should not have cost as much as they did. For example of regular storage cabinet, being sold for fifteen thousand dollars, nine hundred and ninety nine dollars, ninety nine cents, throw pillows for upwards of twelve thousand dollars a throw pillow. So people started being kind of confused and on top of that the throw pillows and cabinets had the names. Of Children. Who happened to be missing like your Ritze Desharnais? They were kind of unique names like that and each one of these cabinets. It'd be like the same cabinet the same picture. But they would have different names in front of the cabinet. Name is making any sense. I hope so. So, people started exploring, and they took the skew number from the cabinets, and they entered into this kind of like. Russian dark website they entered in the skew numbers and when they did that. It brought up pictures of little girls in bikinis very disturbing. So then people started hypothesizing that these high price cabinets were a front for child trafficking, and some people were even going as far as to say that children were being put inside these cabinets and shipped. And people who worked at the warehouses were like Oh. Damn, that kind of really was heavy like maybe you had a child in it. Oh! Okay! And like I said some of these names missed the names of children or match the names of children who are on missing children list. So people went way down, and I have to say that this is like a Q. and non the theory on a Reddit page which I believe queuing non are kind of like a far-right conspiracy theorists in the. Conservative kind of fall kind of in the line of Pizza Gate. If you guys are familiar with that. On which was a total, just bullshit idea which also had to do with child pedophilia. So this is really put everyone in a tizzy. There's all these rumors that the CEO of wayfair stepped down from his position. That as far as I can tell is not true. That did not happen. And I'm here to give you kind of my theory on all of this. So. I have a few theories of why these items were priced. The way they were I, think that. They were priced this way because they weren't actually an active sale. This happens on things like deep pop an Ebay when someone agrees to purchase something for a specific amount. This has happened on depot where I've bought an item. The person says I'm going to set the item at nine thousand, nine hundred ninety nine dollars so that no one else buys it because it would just be like a t shirt or something, and then I will shift you in the know. Gets it also up a sold once. I get the money for the transaction. So it kind of takes it off the market in that way, because WHO's going to pay ten thousand dollars for a regular old shirt, so pardon me felt like it was something like that going on because wayfair cells to interior designers and trade professionals and things like that. the other theory is that. This is sort of along the lines of Amazon's FBI program where people buy things from China in bulk, though by them from Alibaba, buy them in bulk. Get them ships them, though by five hundred units, and then they will up charge them and sell them on Amazon, and it's called the Amazon, it's basically an order fulfillment program where Amazon houses your materials for you. They ship it out for you. They handle all of the transactional fees and they take a percentage. I think something similar could have been happening. Wayfair like they had these third parties that were. Selling things and using lists of doing it now, then the question comes okay we'll. Were they doing that to sell children. Maybe. I. Think that if people are trying to sex traffic, putting it online and causing taxable transactions trackable transactions. Would not be the smartest way to go about it. So I feel very on the fence as to. If that is what was happening, but do I think that this could have been connected to it I. Don't think children were getting shipped in cabinets. Do I think maybe this could have signaled to the sellers that we're using fair like third parties that were using them as a selling marketplace that they could have been day this maybe. I again, I don't know if I. WANNA get a definite statement on that but I will say if you don't think sex. Trafficking and human trafficking is a huge problem that exists throughout this entire world. You really have your head in the sand. It is a huge huge problem and most likely. It is happening literally in your backyard. Especially in Florida all of the port cities here are some of the cities that are the most guilty of having human trafficking occur. And a lot of times the people are trafficked and it goes like this. They are told that they can come to America. They can fulfil the American dream they can work. Off their debts that it took for them to get away to America and then they can create money of their own. Send it back to their families in the foreign country, but. In reality, what happens is they become totally indentured servants, slaves completely traffic, and they never see a dime, and basically they're living in America, but they're not seeing any of the money and I'm telling you that happens a lot and the line gets blurred between that happening and sex trafficking like they both happen. In conjunction with one another. So. Again I'm not trying to downplay I. One hundred percent realized sex trafficking occurs Oh and you. I know another crazy ass fact, and this was actually revealed in Robert Kraft again in fucking like thirty minutes north of me the whole. Robert Kraft thing when he was going to a massage parlour, and it was uncovered that they were doing. Sex acts at this massage parlor and. A girl I know literally would go there and get massages, so don't think that just because a place offers legitimate services that they aren't doing shady shit behind the scenes and I can almost guarantee you start looking out for it now that I'm telling you this. You'RE GONNA. Pass a strip mall. You're going to see something that says like massage. It won't be very descriptive. and. Ninety percent of the time I'm just you know. Rough balling here. Those are friends for sex trafficking and to me. This isn't conspiracy. Theories of this is just reality of what goes on, so I think it'll way. We get distracted when we get caught up in these like ooh, crazy conspiracy theories went. This stuff is legit happening and it's happening in our backyard. So that is my thought on the wayfair conspiracy for anyone who's asked for me to cover it there we go. If. You like me to delve into it further. Clarify some things I said, let me know I, also want to give an update on Jada Pinkett Smith, so as we noted last time Jada said she was bringing herself to the red table after she got. From August about them, having a love affair together and all of that, so she sat down with Will Smith and she basically admitted to having a thing with August, but she says that it happened at a time when her and will were separated. She said we were over from there. As time went on, I got into a different kind of entanglement with August. So so many people have been making memes about her saying entanglement, it'll be like I didn't cheat on my diet. I just had an Tengelmann with crispy cream. So I, don't know at least like she did. They were very careful to say that. August wasn't being dishonest or misrepresenting. What happened so at least hopefully, his name doesn't become completely marred through all of this and his album sales increase, so it's a win. Win for everyone maybe and Jada and will seem like they're happier than ever, and everything is Hunky Dory. Unfortunately on a Saturno note, Rivera's body was found. We talked about that how her body was missing and I think it was pretty privileged, presumed that she had passed, but it took a little while to find her body, and it's so freaky. Dicky because her body was found seven years to the day after Corey Monty, he played fin on Glee, his body was found on July I'm sorry. He was found passed away on July thirteenth two thousand thirteen, and her body was found on July thirteenth two thousand twenty, so it was just really creepy parallel, not a conspiracy theory hitting, but just just a weird universe saying. All right next up. We have the Free Britney Saga Conspiracy Theory I have had more requests talk about Free Brittany Than I. Have may be had about any other topic. On this podcast and I almost feel like I'm probably the best race in talk about it because I don't know if I'm as knowledgeable as I should be I tried to do so much research. I read so many articles and I still I. Looked into California conservatives ships. which is what she's under. She's currently under a personal and estate conservative ship as far as I can tell. Which means that it's not just her estate in her finances are being controlled, but also her personal decisions so I will read you the kind of instagram posts that's been going around and I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen so I'm not sure it's looks like this is credit to. Someone named Brandon Hayes at trash bandicoot. On instagram. So I'm just going to read this. All buckle up, says PSA Britney Spears in the Free Brittany Movement for anyone that needs or wants more information on what is going on with her. It's a fucking rather hole sold buckle up a little back story I. Was a child star starting at the age of four years old on Broadway and then worked her way to the. Mickey. Mouse club and eventually the Solo career we know today. Her career has been on autopilot her entire life. Look back at her music. She's been telling everyone for years. She's to controlled and treated as a product. If you listen to the lyrics most for hits, examples include lucky overprotective, my prerogative, circus piece me and Gimme more. Her music videos social media posts tour, props and photo shoots regular show her in a cage or in chains. If anyone has ever seen videos of her when she was younger, you know. Know her real singing voice is very similar to Christina Aguilera's. Her record label didn't like it as were both on the Mickey Mouse Club in abouts released their debut album at the same time, so they had her voice retrained to seeing in the baby voice. We all know today because they leave. It believed it to be more icon and create a brand and career for her instead of her real voice. It's unhealthy and it's been destroyed her voice over the years thus why she's known for lip synching, she wanted to make an acoustic type pop album in two thousand six titled Original Doll and Reinvent Herself using her real voice. The album was shelved and cancelled once reliable realized she'd be singing in her real voice. She isn't allowed to sing live because she will either fail terribly, or she'll have to sing in her deep voice that she isn't known for her entire career. She has been taunted. Product meant to sell now for the real. Real T. everyone remembers the two thousand seven meltdown. Everyone leading up to the Tom Brady was going through a public divorce had two children under the age of two at the time, and was very much the focus of the public. We all saw her on every magazine cover. We also saw the photo of her with one of her kids on her lap while driving, go on Youtube once and look Britney Spears Paparazzi. You'll watch. Be Chaste and followed by hundreds of them, even trying to get into a public restroom to photograph her. Videotaping her in tears them to leave her alone, and even filming her through the windows of an ambulance, while she was naked, being taken away for her final mental health hold. After the public meltdown, shaving her head, locking herself in her home with her children, speaking in a British accent on regular basis, wearing the infamous pink, quick everywhere and shopping naked, she was hospitalized twice after the hospitalization. Her father petitioned the courts to be a temporary conservator tour until she was mentally stable and. For only one year it's time. Two months after hospitalization. She did a guest appearance on how I met your mother six months after her hospitalization, she drops the womanizer video and starts to promote her new album circus with its worldwide toward the gross one hundred thirty one point eight million dollars if she so unwell. Why did she start working right away? Her father after one year petition, the courts for the conservative ships become permanent due to her allegedly having early onset dementia in her twenties. It pass, and it has been that way ever since for twelve years to be exact now for everyone. That doesn't understand what that means. Let me break it down for you. Britney Spears is now at thirty eight year old woman, who is not allowed to do the following without her father's permission, or he can legally lock her up in a mental health facility. Drive a car boat. Get married. have children spend her own money? See how her money is being spent. See Her children. Leave her home higher. Her own lawyer have any control over her career Oh and I'm sorry I skipped this part. She has thirty percent of both of our boys. Due to her dad, assaulting, one of her sons speak about the conservative ship publicly do interviews that aren't scripted and all final cuts are approved by her father as well use a cell phone without being monitored new social media unmonitored contact anyone without being monitored. Having them extremely vetted iggy Azalea allegedly had her house searched for drugs top to bottom when they collaborated together. Go shopping. Go for a walk. Get starbucks. Conservative ship is meant for people with mental health issues or decaying health. Most likely grandparents are people with actual dementia, etc, they are meant for people who literally could not take care of themselves if she is so unwell that she is immensely capable of doing anything herself. Why is she still working? Since a conservative ship began twelve years ago, she has released four. Done three worldwide tours did a four year vegas residency. It was a fulltime judge on X. factor released multiple perfumes, and a laundry line, made one hundred and thirty eight dollars, hundred and thirty eight million dollars, or so a year in January of last year. Britney was placed in a mental health facility for three months after being seen driving her car to an out with her boyfriend without permission, and for using to take the sedating medications her father ads. ADS doctors prescribing her to keep her under control. She testified to judge documents that she was held there against her will by her father after it was leaked to the press that she was there against her will. The Free Brittany movement picked up speed causing judge to open an investigation into the impacting legality. Conservative ship has her life Britain's mother. Len was also liking and commenting on Free Britney posts, saying she that Britney is trapped by her father. Britney's team had twitter disabled. Free Brittany. Hashtag and regularly threatens any celebrity that speaks out using the hash with a lawsuit if they don't remove their support for the movement. She was seen shortly after leaving a hotel through the front door, stumbling while carrying her shoes in out of it, her team used that moment justify to the public that she needed this conservative shit. She is not allowed to have any say in the hiring or firing of anyone on her team every year she pays one point. One million dollars fees for the conservative ship to continue including paying her father is solid, one hundred K. plus salary paying a lawyer. She isn't allowed to choose. She's an loudon allowance of around fifteen hundred dollars a week for bill shopping in essentials. Her net worth is two hundred and fifty million. So there's a little bit more to it, but kind of just saying that this is a woman who doesn't have control over her life. Essentially, so when I was doing the research on this I was trying to look up conservative ships in California and how they work there. And I came upon this train youtube video that was actually recommended by the California courts and it was published seven years ago, but it looked like it was made in Nineteen, seventy seven. It was so bootleg. I can't even explain it And I it does kind of confirmed me that usually these conservatives ships like I thought are mainly used for elderly people who really have no control. At that point over their brain or their life. So. It is odd for someone of Britney's as if we're thinking. She's thirty eight now twelve years ago. She would have been twenty six years old when she was placed on this. And the craziest part about it to me is the fact of how much she has worked since then. It's my understanding that if it's not someone else elderly someone so extremely disabled that they cannot work, they don't. They can't hold a normal job. And it's part of the reason that their finances have to be so closely monitored, so I think it is very strange that. She's been under this conservative ship for so long, but at the same time I think when you watch her instagram videos. You're kind of like. Oh, she really all there. You know I, think she's been so been through so much, and she's unfortunately gone through tears of being a child star I actually with Kinsey with night we watched show Biz kids and it's by Alex winter who was a show Biz, kid himself and interviews, a lot of people who were child stars like meal. Jovovich, Evan, Rachel Wood, will we and Mara Wilson who played Mathilde. And kind of saying how? If you're not like sexually abused, your still mentally abused and you go through so much shit and you just you don't live a normal childhood and how it fucks you up, and obviously we've kind of as a society learn that because we see what happens to so many childhood stars, but it was interesting seeing it firsthand from their perspective. So I understand that she is probably dealing with so much stuff. But. This free Brittany Movement comes up over and over again because every six months, she basically goes to the court. For Base what my understanding is like a status report of how conservative ship is going? and. There's rumors that as of recently I believe I was back in September that she asked to be released from her conservative ship and the plot that gained more because her own mother apparently is wanting. Some, say over it so that her father who as I mentioned in that? Kevin Federal Line who is the mother of Britney's to John's key filed a lawsuit against. Jamie Spears her father who's in charge of the conservative ship for abusing one of the kids so. It is it's almost like a conflict of interest that someone that she? That can't be around. Her kids is representing her life in this way. But to get to the conspiracy side of this, people are saying that she's leaving coded messages and her instagram's and that her boyfriend is her handler. because there definitely are videos. He's filming with her and you can see mouthing at her to smile. Okay again as much as I love a conspiracy theory. I don't know if I buy that. He's her handler. I think he wants her to present a good face on instagram. Do I. Think there's a high chance that she is not in charge of posting like she needs to get her post on instagram approved by someone yeah. But people are saying that like on her hat. She's written help beneath her eyelashes. She's written call nine, one one and Mascara with like someone can figure out how to easily do that. With the Mascara Wand hit me up. Let me know. People are saying that she'll wear a certain enclosed shirt to signal to people that she needs help. So, I don't I don't know how I feel about all of that and I know I spent a long time just reading that instagram post, but it's one of those things that the more I read about it. The more I'm just kind of left confused why the court continues to let her biens conservative ship, unless there's something that we don't know as the public. But it's not the first time. A judge has made a bad choice so. Who knows hopefully her mom can get some say what's going on in. That will bring light to everything and hopefully alleviate some of the problems that are happening if Britney is truly having those. Her. Next up a cut article by Clara. Lamp and alerted me to Disneyworld bizarre reopening. Odd Frankly I am shocked at Disney has reopened with the way shit is going in Florida and I felt like this was semi relevant to me and worth mentioning because my family does have an annual Disney. Pass this year. Obviously, we haven't been able to us. because my hometown where my parents live is only about an. An hour from Disney, our pastor blacked out right now anyway so I. Don't have any intention of going there anytime soon, and it is hot as balls, but to describe the odds you. It's various KOSS members as Disney calls their workers, saying welcome home while they're wearing a mask and they look a little Stockholm century. Syndrome me if I had to say so myself. I'll try to insert some audio if I can get it in here. Welcome! Home. But the hilarious about this is that people have done edits. Saying List looks like a horror movie. So once they had an article. It was someone putting the US remix to put five on it on top of it and taking the tone of the color doubt and it looks so spooky. But the most hilarious and disturbing one is one where someone has dubbed the Audio, so the people in masks are saying stay home. Don't come. It's dangerous. And it works beautifully, because since they're wearing a mask, you can't see their mouths movie. Come here. My God. I just don't know. Hogan next up the goddess and creator of Hawks Summer Megan the stallion. We actually talked about her and one of our I kinda cute episodes because it was when hot girl silver was really blowing up last year, and I felt like she at the do credit. She getting the do credit. She deserved for quitting the term hot girl summer. So I'm going to preface this by saying that she was shot, but she is okay, and it's very unclear what actually happened? But on her instagram she wrote as follows the narrative. That's being reported about Sunday mornings. Events are inaccurate. Night liked. Set the record straight on Sunday morning I suffered gunshot wounds as a result of a crime that was committed against me and done with the intention of physically harm me. I was never arrested. The police officers drove me to the hospital where he underwent surgery to move. Remove the bullets. I'm incredibly grateful to be alive. And that I'm expected to make a full recovery, but it was important for me to clarify the details about this traumatic night. I'm currently focused on my recovery so I can return back to my life and back to making music as soon as possible, so that is a picture of texts. That's her actual instagram photo. And then the caption to the photo says I was never arrested. This whole experience was an eye opener and a blessing in disguise I hate that. It took this experience for me to learn how to protect my energy. Okay, so the cut writes that according to variety earlier that even evening, Megan and Tory. Lanez attended a party at Kylie Jenner's house. Later, the two were in an SUV together in Hollywood, and then two shots were fired and air. Police later pulled over Tori and they found a weapon in his car and Megan and other women were also vehicle. Tori was reportedly arrested on felony charges. At four forty, a m Sunday, and he was released on a thirty five thousand dollar bond around six hours later, so we don't know exactly what went down, but I'm just very glad Megan is okay and if Tori do this like do thus fucked up. A little lighter note. Can I have been watching down to earth? Which Zach ephrons New Eko Torres. Global climate change basically him trying to be like Oh Walker. Global Climate Change Woke Anthony Bourdain are a P. And really what I want to talk about in this is two things. Burst off if any of you guys know who Dan Bills, area is Zach, be looking like a straight of Danville and everyone's like ooh! Daddy, like what the scruff and link with the little bit lake filled out body. All I see is Dan Bill. Zarian known womanizer disgusting, not fan literally he's just like post. Pictures of girls like butts on his instagram of heading like hitting their butt cheeks, and like saying how he can get any girl who wants and he's so rich. It's just not a cute look I I'm not into I, mean I love Zach Blake, the the parallels of his looks between him and Dan Bells area. Are other issue with it is is that there's some bizarre and obvious sponsorships. We counted Gopro Hilton Ruka skates one. Okay AC Samsung, and so I was kind of like okay interesting choices, and this is my fall in my lack of investigative journalism, but I'm like how many of these companies are actually really helping the fight against global climate change Let me know if anyone knows. Maybe we'll research for next week because I'm not sure that they are. Okay next up and I'm sorry guys. This is like a long episodes which not a lot of ground to cover today. And this next article is not a cut article, but I felt like it was too wild, not to share especially since I just binge the reboot of unsolved mysteries and you bill apter believe that I gobble that show up as a child and I'm gobbling it up today. Okay, so the name of this article is Alissa attorney went missing and her sister turn to talk for help by Katie Garrity. It says true crime junkies have been chomping at the bit recently after a woman's tiktok account went viral after she shared information in regards to her missing sister, Sarah Attorney turn to Tiktok to try and get exposure shed on the disappearance of her sister Eliza Termi. Sarah believes she knows what happened to her. Sister is out to prove that it was her father Michael Turney illicit stepfather that abused kidnapped, and eventually murdered Elissa all right so I'm going to give you guys a little background. Info Elissa went missing in two thousand one and at the time she was living with her Stepdad. intercessor Sarah the TIKTOK. We just talked about the sadly. Sadly. A mom had passed away so apparently the Stepdad treated Elissa unfairly and was way more strict with her than she was with Sarah and one day. The stepdad Sarah that Lissa was missing and when they got home, there was a note allegedly from Sarah saying that she took I'm sorry from Melissa saying that she took three hundred dollars in left to go to California. But the weird part is that in the years that Eliza was missing? She hadn't contacted anyone. Including the anthem issue is supposed to be living with and her bank account, which had eighteen hundred dollars, and it was untouched. Her social security number had never been used, so she had an applied to a job or gone to school. And here's where it gets. Even more complicated. People claim the same day. The stepdad Selah so was missing. He actually picked her up from school around lunchtime, and this was confirmed by her boyfriend and her friends because she was supposed to go to an end of school party that very night. And even more suspiciously, the stepdaddy allegedly ran audiotapes, constantly monitoring his house like security and conveniently they were shut off on this particular day. So. Eventually get a search warrant, and they find twenty six home-made pipebombs as well as a ninety page manifesto and in the manifesto. The stepdad suggested that his step daughter had been abducted and killed by two men from an electrical union. He worked for as revenge. He said he had ventured killing them in return, but both the men he named were found to have died of natural causes. So the kicker here is that the Septum actually went to prison for having the pipebombs and his house. But through her tiktok Sarah has garnered attention for this case in basically you know opened up a lists disappearance case. So the police recently announced that they are submitting a missing person case to the prosecutor's office charges against the stepped. Despite the claims that they would arrest the Septet after he was released from prison for the PIPEBOMBS Sarah says that they've changed their minds and encourage Sarah to get media attention, so since then Sarah has also raised enough money to spread awareness about her sister on a billboard in Arizona says she's caught. This huge billboard put up for asking for anyone who has information about her to give it. And this story actually reminded me a lot of the Lena story on unsolved mysteries episode six, and it's just really chilling in creepy and. I hope that. There's justice for her death. That being said let's do something really fun and lighthearted after that. the cup. Pose some what I consider a very difficult. Would you rather questions and I really think that, would you? Rather questions can offer a glimpse into someone's psyche so I'm going to share my responses, and then you can give me your your thought. You can reach out to me at Bailey Evan or it kind of cute podcast or leave a five star review. Let's get into it I up. Would you rather sweat milk or sneeze glitter to me? This is such an easy one like obviously I'd rather sneeze glitter. How bomb would that be like? Everyone says glitter is the herpes of the crafting world I love glitter. I mean it would just make. A Lot more enjoyable if I'm sweating milk dust gonNA. Get rancid real quick like my sweat smells bad enough already I. Don't need it curdling on my skin. Next up. Would you rather do legless or airborne? I thought this was a very fitting question. Since we had a whole segment about whether or not, you're a legless. Our Air Gun ORT arrogant, or why can I say era Gorn airborne girl era gorn girl. Okay I'm going with Erik Gordon that we know. We like tall, dark and handsome moment. Next step. Would you rather have eyebrows that move all around your face or cry? Oil Paints again. I said these were like some hard ones. This isn't hard all obviously I'd rather cry oil paints. Can you think of the fire? INSTAGRAM'S I get from that like I can already imagine it now i. would just be posing there like oh, work work, honey lake all if he beautiful and then I wouldn't have to buy oil paints which are really expensive. Okay. Like? Why did I include that article I? Don't know either guys. It's just the fiftieth episode I wanted to give you guys some that long something juicy. Selena really get your teeth into. Get You thinking. Last week we talked about the TIKTOK drama between Charlie Demilio and little hoodie. And how Tiktok me much longer in the US but this week I bring you some teenage on genuity from TIKTOK. Now I'm not going to use my miniscule platform to condone underage drinking, but you cannot deny that these teams really took the reins of what's going on right now and used it to their benefit. So the headline is teens disguising his mask wearing grandma's to buy beer by saint. Geeta Singh Kurtz so the headline sort of says it all, but I'm going to read you a little bit of what the article says and Tiktok Trend First. Reported by the New York Post. It seems that some teenagers have been running an elaborate booze buying scheme that involves using face makeup and costumes to impersonate senior citizens. One video shows a young woman in sunglasses, a face mask and a head scarf with dark hair, and browse lightly powdered and grey, walking into a wine shop and out again with a few bottles of wine. She then Twix merrily on the side of the road with her loot. Now maybe this is a controversial opinion, but if these kids are GonNa, take all the time, it takes to put on prosthetics. Maybe they deserve a little wine. No getting wasted not driving drug, but like in the safety of their own home, having a little glass of wine they may they deserve that off after all that effort. Our it up next. We have another disappointing story from the food. World I feel like we've been getting so many of these lately. And it is is La Strenuous Brunch spot, serving horrible moldy jam by Amanda Arnold. Okay full disclosure as usual I. Always tell you guys what's up. I have never eaten at Squirrel. When I was in La last time, I did go there and I did buy a jar of this very jam. That is the subject of this article. They constantly rotate their flavors and I believe mine was something like a rhubarb blood orange. It was delicious I. Love Jim. Bone Mun is my girl. If you'll recall last year I, bought the Beaumont calendar with twenty four tiny jams and that Shit legit may may December I am to this day still eating those jams and they do not have mold on them. So that's the scroll Jan. it was good, but it costs fourteen fourteen dollars, and it was not fourteen dollars good. I can tell you that. But. Let's get into what the article says. It's difficult to overstate the influence of squirrelled a massively popular counter service cafe on the edge of Silverlake what started as a tiny jam business. Nearly a decade ago has since evolved into one of Los Angeles hippest brunch destinations regularly drawing crowds of locals and visitors alike who are willing to endure interminable lions for. James Beard nominated. Chef Jessica. COSTLO's new California dishes of all the cafes offerings, one of the most iconic and instagram'd is the famed ricotta toast, Hefty Slab, a burnt Brioche that nearly buckles under an obscene amount of fresh ricotta in jam. Now I am not above paying an ungodly amount for a good piece of toast with GMC. The mill in San Francisco like hit me up with that cinnamon toast. I would do it again all over, but this leads us into kind of the issue. that this story is highlighting that silverlake has undergone a lot of gentrification in the past couple of years. and. It has kind of that Brooklyn to it I. Think because of that and Squirrel was one of the first. Entities that I. Know of that really started this. And it says the New York Times has credited costlo with building an empire out of artisanal small batch jam, but as it turns out, that empire wasn't entirely made out of preserve boys, berry, and high biscuits and Rose Geranium it was also apparently built on mold. At least so say a number of former squirrel employees who recently claimed that squirrels jam regularly grew thick layers of mold, which employees were instructed to scrape off the preserves before serving them to unknowing customers. So obviously, that is disgusting and back to. Thing I mean it does cause problems to the community there. Because then it can price them out of the neighborhoods. There's just things I want you to keep in mind in the context of the story. So the moldy jammed dramas are two fold over the weekend when the man named Joe Rosenthal, who describes himself as a scientist and food antagonists began sharing accusations from apparent current and former squirrel employees, according to Rosenthal story scrolls bulk jams. What is served at the brick and mortar cafe? Developed visible mold. We're talking about some buckets having like a quarter and Jim mold covering the entire tops of gallon buckets. Furthermore the post alleged that COSCO slow. However, you say the owner's name instructed employees to simply remove the mold before serving the jammed customers, and the employees were told that the health inspectors gave us permission. Off of it went two inches down. Okay. Maybe my knowledge of mold is wrong, but I'm pretty sure that if mold is even touching or around what you're eating, it's infected the rest of it. Don't get me wrong when I have a moldy strawberry. Don't I just did this for the cocktails talking about God damn straight I just cut off that mold and throw it in the disposal and I eat the rest of the strawberry. But probably not the best thing to do. So any the plot thickens according to eater the mold allegations came in the midst of growing backlash, regarding squirrels lack of diversity enrolling gentrifying neighborhood. Now, some non white former employees are claiming that Coleslaw I'm just GONNA call Coleslaw? took credit for their work. Former Chef de Cuisine Javier Ramos posted to his instagram account that he didn't get wrapping mission or payment for the recipes that he contributed to cookbook and former employees via Dolorosa also spoke out about being denied credit for her work. So that's the other thing that I also read somewhere I'm not sure if this is the people talk about in this article that. A black woman says she was the one who came up with their jam recipe and has never gotten credit or reimbursement for it. But to make my soul feel a little better. Apparently scrolls retail gems of jars jabbed ours, which is what I got our hot packed in the oven, so they're shelf stable up to two years so I guess I didn't have to worry about the moldy jam in my case, so jay for me. And people were. Asking like should they now canceled their preorder of the Squirrel Jam. Coleslaw is forthcoming, Jam Cook and Yeah, I don't I don't. But I don't think we touch on why they think they. They haven't confirmed why. This mold was happening summer saying it was from fans blowing though mold spores around who knows? I don't know if we'll ever know. They'll probably keep selling moldy jam because people get away with shit these days I swear to God. 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Richard Leakey and Donald Johanson: The Quest for Humankind

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Richard Leakey and Donald Johanson: The Quest for Humankind

"Hi it's alice. what is the human is. it cannot talk. Think see film touch buttons and things or is it human sunday much more basic. That's richard leakey one of the most important contributors to the field of paleo anthropology. The study of human origins the academy of achievement has quite a collection in its audio archive of interviews with brie noun fossil hunters as they are colloquially called before we dig in deeper with two of them pardon the pun will listen for a few minutes to a montage of some of these folks people who have spent their careers looking for answers to who we are and how we got here clearly. It's much more to being human than simply. Having a large brain that is capable of emotion and thinking and sympathy empathy has been introduced as part of the ridges face that this is. What makes us special. We have that capacity to judge right and wrong good and bad evil and virtually all of these complicated concepts that live develop. But come on really say that Elephants don't have basically the same criteria in the makeup of emotion. And i'm very impressed by a lot of animals which show not only sympathy with members of their own species but show empathy in being able to interact with other species in a helpful. Way when it's appropriate and i think the most fundamental question about humanity is that we walk on two lakes and walking on two legs is enormously important because if we were using our hands with support. We couldn't manipulate things with tools and the development of by fatalism. Is i think the start of the human story and it probably goes back. To between six and seven melania's. We depend totally culture for our survival. This is donald johannesen. We would make it. I mean picture yourself totally stripped of your clothes out on the grasslands of east africa how would you even survive a week right without a something as simple as a as a swiss army knife but what was it that that generated that stimulated that provoked that change from a non toolmaking small brain form to a larger brain stone tool making four. And that's a mystery that still one of the most exciting periods in the human career. That is is is yet unsolved. I think there is a common misperception of what it is that we feel paleontologists do this. Is tim white. Many people think that we just go out. Wander around and stumble on things and you actually see this. In almost every media report of a new fossil discovery. The team stumbled upon these new remains. And believe me. This is why we don't stumble around you. You are looking at maybe that few seconds of actual discovery being luck luck over whether you look in that direction or that direction. And then down and see the cranium. But that's the last couple percent the ninety eight percent before that is the hard work of identifying where to walk in the first place setting up the logistics to get these large teams of scientists into the field. Finding out how old those fossils are by using all the geological dating techniques that we have studying things in the laboratory for years and years and years the last little bit his luck but most of it is just plain hard work and determination on these fossil discoveries. It's the same for any science. An old scientists are driven by this enormous curiosity. Maeve leaky they want to know. Why something does this or why something looks like. That will how something works and every scientist driven by this enormous curiosity to to find the answer to some question and it's the same with asa wandering around in the desert in the wind and the sun and the heat and we know if we look hard enough we can find a fossil. It will tell us something we didn't know before the most specimens you have more questions answered so many many questions related to. Why did homer actors move out of africa when no other species had done that. Why did the brain sought to expand. Why did our answer stop making stone tools. What we know what was what was. The environmental stimulus always seems to happen. So we're looking at those sort of questions and it's just. It's an incredibly obsessive. Rarely just know if you keep us it. You know you're going to get the answer and finally desmond clark. Why is it that we study these kinds of things. Well we clearly need to know where it is we have come from. We need to know about. Genetic composition is so that we can plan for the future. Alway the hard age aggressive Killer apes that some people have suggested that we are are we the more gentle food sharing hominids who developed society on the basis of the family. Some no doubt between the two on salons. I think the stage is now set for some of the questions. Some of the answers and many of the mysteries remaining that will explore further with richard leakey and donald joe hansen but coming human on this episode of what it takes a podcast about passion vision and perseverance from the academy of achievement. I'm ls winkler at this child is gifted and i heard that enough that i started to believe if you have the opportunity not a perfect opportunity. You don't take it. You may never have another child it all so clear. It was just like the pick your started to form itself. There was new wing which ally could prevail over the truth darkness over light every day. I wake up and decide today. I'm going to love my life decide if they're going to break your leg or you go in play stay out of there and then long companies experiences that you don't look for you. Don't plan for the boy. You better not miss in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. A young paleo anthropologist just out of grad school was hunting for fossils. Any fussell's that might give a new clue to how we humans evolved. Donald johanson had yet to make his mark but he'd found a site he thought at a lot of potential so he invited richard leakey to come visit. Leaky was already famous. He and his team had made some big fines and kenya. Including what was then the oldest known ancestor of man also. His parents were louis and mary. Leakey giants of paleo anthropology. So visit from richard leakey was pretty thrilling for donald johanson but not nearly as thrilling as what happened the day after leaky left. That's when you hanson made a discovery that would change his life and rewrite. The story of how our species came to be what i found. Lucy seventy four. I was walking in a very desolate. Remote part of of ethiopia notice hotter at hotter our site. We had found fossilized remains of all kinds of animals elephants. Rhinos gazelles monkeys. And so on but our main goal of course was to find as many human ancestor fossils as we could. we had found some things in nineteen seventy-three that titillated us and and alerted us to the fact that these geological deposits would in fact have a human ancestor fossils and on this november morning. It was about noon. I was heading back to my land To drive back to camp. And i happened to look over my right shoulder and as i did so i saw a fragment of bone which i recognized as coming from The elbow region of a skeleton and that it was too small to be anything but one of these hominids and the anatomy was right and almost instantaneously. I was with a student of mine at that time tom gray. We realized that there were fragments of her or of the skeleton that were distributed long slope. There was a piece of a leg that was a piece of a pelvis was a piece of jaw. There was a piece of the skull. And i realized almost instantaneously that we had part of the skeleton. The skeleton from a creature who had walked up upright. Joe could tell that as soon as he examined her knee joint she had a small brain though and a sloped chimpanzee kind of face. She turned out to be three point. Two million years old. That made her the new oldest creature with human characteristics ever found more than a million years older than the skull called fourteen. Seventy that had brought richard leakey to fame. Lucy was a hell of a find and captured the public's imagination but not everyone was convinced that donald johanson was right when he announced that lucy was our oldest human ancestor. Chief among them was richard. Leakey he didn't quibble with the age of the bones but he believed at the time that there were two lines of evolution. One line that had gone extinct and another line that had led to humans he placed lucy in the extinct line. Johannesen though was certain she was a common ancestor to both lines. It grew into a heated debate in the lofty world of paleo anthropology but then on a thousand nine hundred eighty one series hosted by walter cronkite called universe. The feud went public on national. Television presented. Our family tree. Let's see it must've been in in january of nineteen seventy nine which is two years ago and very shortly thereafter I know that the richard and and others but specifically richard have said that it does not fit the evidence of the fossils. I've been around thirty five years in a family that seen loss of control the city. I've fossils in favor out of favor back in favour out of favor. Let's stand back from it. Of course important. I wouldn't minimize it. Say whether the wrong tactic it'd be fun to Sort of a portrayal of how i look at the family tree from kenya. Empty-handed then. I've i've left to spot me to draw your rendition waitress. I don't do this leaky answered with some snark. That he hadn't brought a marker so johannesen handed him on. I can do here to hold it up jonah. hold up. I think in probability that i will do that. That's the sound of. Richard leakey drawing a big fat x. Through johannesson's proudly printed evolutionary tree showing lucy at the top. What would you draw on its place. And that's the sound of leaky drawing a simple question. Mark a battle line you could say when walter cronkite introduced the segment. He said that all the bits and pieces of bone from men like creatures that had been found up to that point would not cover a billiard table. Forty years later that's no longer true. In the literal sense there have been significant discoveries including several by lee. berger who's the featured guest on another episode of what it takes and advances in genetics and molecular biology have helped fill in more branches of our family tree. It's a more complex tree. Now though we could say. Dan joe hansen won that round does more closely resemble the tree as he envisioned it but much of what we do know today about. Our ancestors is built upon the work of both these paleoanthropologists who spent years of their lives toiling in the heat and the lab rummaging for bones that tell us our story now time for their stories i donald hansen who grew up mostly in connecticut in the nineteen forties and fifties the child of swedish immigrants. You achieved some tremendous triumphs very early relatively speaking in your career and It makes me very curious about how you came to be so turned on by anthropology in the first place. Was there someone in particular that had an influence on you or did you just discover it on your own. Well in fact that there was one single individual who became my mentor. Very early on my father died when i was two years old. So i had no strong male image or personality in my life and as a young boy At about age eight. I met an anthropologist who was out walking his dog he was teaching at a theological seminary in hartford connecticut and As i often jokingly say his dog introduced me to him and i became introduced because of that to anthropology something that probably most of us. Don't even hear about until we're in college and and take an introductory anthropology course or whatever but paul laser deceased now was Regular going to africa to pursue His area of work. He was a social cultural anthropologist. In places like tanzania and malawi and so on and i was thrilled as as a young boy to sit with him surrounded by his library of knowledge and talk to him about his adventures in africa. And i became very interested in africa. I became very intrigued by the idea of going to a place as foreign and remote as africa and at the same time i was particularly interested in biology and i was i had used butterfly collection and i went out and identified plants and insects and so on and when when the first fossils began to be found in eastern africa in the late nineteen fifties. I thought what a wonderful marriage. This was biology and anthropology. And it was really. I think when. I was around sixteen years old that that i made this particular choice. Do you ever stop to wonder if that dog hadn't introduced you to the anthropologist whether you'd be doing something else today or do you think you were in a sense predestined. You would have found this field anyway. I i suspect that. If i had not met police or if i had not had his remarkable influence i would certainly doing something else. I think that in fact my first two years of high school i was not a very good student. I was much more interested in what was going on outside of school and after my sophomore year. Paul told me you know you if you want to go to college if you want to pursue an advanced degree in whatever field it is you want what you need to to get crapping in your schoolwork and i worked very hard. The last two years of high school and Did very well but i did very poorly on examinations and i went to the high school counselor mr olsen to to Discuss like college applications. He said young man. Who said i think you should apply to a trade school. He said you're not college material. Paul laser finding his young friend almost in tears assured him that the tests warrant an accurate reflection of his intelligence his ability and encouraged him to apply to college anyway. He got in as he told gail. I can tho who conducted this interview for the academy of achievement in nineteen ninety-one. He owes paul laser. So much joe. Hansen's parents hadn't been to college. His dad had been a barber and his mom who emigrated from sweden at sixteen had no formal education at all when she found herself a single mother. She struggled hard to keep food on the table. Why mother had a very difficult time financially and She spent Her career really being a domestic cleaning lady and she earned enough money to support the two of us and to assist me in my attempts to go to college so there was a tremendous work ethic which she had and Had a tremendous influence on me in terms of. If you wanna do something you can do it there there. There really are few obstacles that are going to prevent you from doing it so She was a very important role model for me for for very different reasons. That's pretty amazing. What do you think looking back to those early years of. What was it about anthropology. Or the idea of being an author apologised the actual doing of anthropology. What what attracted you so powerfully. Do you think well there's a. There's a tremendous amount of romanticism which surrounds Going on expeditions to remote parts of the world in camping in tents and living in a desert and struggling with all of the trials and tribulations at one encounters but i think that what really intrigued me was the fact that i felt that this was an and still is really a science a form of inquiry which is still in its infancy that there were so many things yet to be discovered that the science itself would have in my lifetime. Still lots of surprises. Was there someone professionally After you became an advanced student In graduate school. That really kind of gave you. I break in this field. Yes there was. I as an undergraduate had an opportunity to go on a number of archaeological digs so i had Experience excavating working on Expeditions in north america digs as we call them here. digging up of ancient indian villages and so on in the mid west and in the southwest but i was being sort of channeled in that direction but as i said my real passion my real. What really excited me was the idea that that that humans had a tremendous prehistory on that they went back millions of years and i wanted to go to africa to find some of these Creatures and the school where i was i was at the university of illinois and There there really was no one there who was doing this kind of research. Either in the field or in the laboratory and there was one man professor clark howell Who's teaching at the university of chicago. And he is sort of the father of paleo anthropologist. It's called the study of human origins. And he he developed the whole multi interdisciplinary approach to doing this sort of work that we do in the field and He was at that time. Working in southern ethiopia at a site known as the omo and i remember talking to my fellow graduate students about the fact that you know this is really what i wanna do. I wanna pursue human evolutionary studies. And i want to work with clark held and They said how do that. And i said well. I have to meet the guy and they said how you gonna do that and i said well i'm going to call him and i called him at the university of chicago. I call the police department and was transferred to his office and he picked up the phone and i told him who i was. And then i was a student in champaign urbana and then i wanted to come to chicago to meet him and he said well that that'd be fine and we set up an appointment and here was sort of you. Know the the the the the dean of american of american paleo anthropology who you know we read about. Every student read hit his his works he was. He was more influential really than any other individual in the united states. And i had an appointment to see him and i remember walking to his office. The first very first time very cordial very approachable man. And we sat down and talked and then he said finally he said you know what. What do you really want to do. And i said well. I'd like to go to africa and find human ancestor fossils. And he said we don't want people want to do that. after this discussion he invited me to come to the university of chicago as an exchange student for a half a year and after i series of courses there. They asked me if i wanted to stay on as a permanent graduate student that there was a fellowship that was available. A national institute of dental research traineeship. So i was expected to do something in the area of teeth and since teeth are the things that preserves the best in the fossil record. It was appropriate to to do this sort of study and i did long very boring thesis. On chimpanzee t. I traveled all over europe and looked at museum collections. And that prepared me for understanding the teeth of our human ancestors. Better than anything else. I could have done. And during the course of my research for my my Clark was working in ethiopia And he was going to study some fossils of human ancestors in south africa and he was particularly interested in what he could learn from the anatomy of teeth and he said well why don't you. Why don't you come with me on this. Why don't you come up and see what it's like to be in the field finding these fossils and that was the break that that all of us dream of a students and It was that was one thousand nine hundred seventy and since then. I have worked on and off throughout the the great rift valley of east africa. Let's let's go back to that. Amazing discovery of ms lucy first of all. How and when did you realize what you had found Normally we are happy to find a fragment of jaw is located teeth. A bit of an arm Bit of a skull but to find associated body parts is extremely rare and i realized that no matter what it wants even if it was from a creature that we already knew about another kind of human ancestor that had already been studied named. It's on it was going to be important because if you're going to make Decisions about anatomy in other words. What is the what are the relationships between upper and lower limbs one of the things that we've asserted that is played a very important role in some people's interpretation of This form of australopithecus is the fact that her arms are relatively long compared to her lower limbs. our arms are at least. This arm bone. The upper arm bone is only about seventy percent the length of our thighbone when lucy's case it was about ninety percent the length of her thighbone which meant she had relatively long arms when she probably inherited from our ancestors who lived in trees. So it's very important to know if you're dealing with one individual because if it's one individual you can make that statement if it's more than one individual you might be confusing the arms and legs of different individuals in this case. There was no duplication of of body. Parts in other words weren't to right arms or two left legs or two fragments of left jaw. There were only there was only represented in the collection. One of each and also the bone Is all of the same fossilised or color. So we were able to make the decision that belong to a single specimen so i realized immediately that this was terribly important. Find terribly important discovery. But i didn't realize at the moment how important it would be until we had spent a lot of time in the laboratory. Studying her how did you feel that day. Well i it. It was a moment of just absolute exhilaration the when we first drove into camp We were driving into camp. My my student was Hawking the horn of the land rover. They knew something was up right away so everyone. Even though they weren't specialists and anthropology people who might have been doing something geology or paleontology came running out and they find what you find. And i'll never forget the students. We found the whole damn thing and this. What are you reading. So we found skeleton and that was Just like some sort of the lick ser that Infected everyone so that the whole camp was immediately brought up and excited and we all drove out to the site and stood around and looked at the bones that were on the slope and developed a strategy for what to do but that night when we were in camp. That's all we could talk about. Was the discovery of this specimen and What do you think it is done and you think it's a male or female. I thought it was a female because of the small sized we were listening to beatles. Tapes I have been still emma a great beatles fan and one of the songs that was playing was Lucy in the sky with diamonds. Thought that instead of calling her. The partial australopithecus skeleton from locality to eighty eight. That she needed a you know some some name something that would be easier to refer to her. And i jokingly said why. Don't we call her lucy and little. I know that that would catch on. I mean once that name was uttered once it was associated with the skeleton. There was no way to erase it. the next morning at breakfast my students would say to me. Well we're going back to the lucy site you think we'll find more lucy skull you think we'll be able to get the rest of lucy's leg so that she developed right from the outset You could see inklings of a of of a personality that she was becoming more than just a bunch of old dry bones that were collected in this remote part of the world that she herself was being identified as as a as a very important element in our understanding of human origins so that the the excitement was quite extraordinary and involve really everyone not just the person who found her. But everyone who worked on the expedition. After don joe and his team uncovered lucy's bones. It still took about three years of lab work in analysis before he felt confident enough to announce his conclusions. And that's when sparks again to fly. When i realized in Nine hundred seventy seven. Seventy eight that this was that lucy did represent a new species of human ancestor. And then i had an opportunity to name this new species. I realized that this was a revolutionary step in terms of of of understanding human origins. And it brought with it a tremendous amount of responsibility. Because i had to be correct. I had to be right if i made a mistake. At this point and announced a new species and someone came along and proved me to be wrong. I would lose a tremendous respect for my colleagues. So i worked very hard with a number of Scientific colleagues particularly tim white and the two of us made this decision. That these fossils lucy and other fossils which we found in ethiopia represented a very distinct and different species of australopithecus a species which was more primitive more generalized than any other species of australopithecus ever been found in africa and not only did that. Did that have important implications for the naming of species the number of species of the fossil record but the next step was even scarier. Was if that's true. Then it's going to strongly influence the way we view the family tree because the way the family tree was constructed at that point we felt on the basis of this new discovery the naming of the new species which was named after the afar region of ethiopia. So was called australopithecus. Afarensis that this would have important implications in how we viewed this sort of tempo the speed and the mode of evolutionary change for example. Here's a creature. That we felt was fully upright bipedal walking on two legs yet had a brain that was the size of a chimpanzee. this was really close to abe. That stood up as anything that anyone had ever found and there have been many people who have suggested that our ancestors stood up so that we could use our hands to make and use tools yet. We hadn't found a single stone tool endeavor have in those deposits that when our ancestors stood up their brains increased in size so that they would have a complex to make stone tools but she had a small brain so i knew that it was going to generate and potatoes. A whole series of new controversies about our ancestry so that it was an electric time in my life. I mean you can imagine. I mean at that point. I was invited to go to sweden to participate in the nobel symposium and i decided this was the venue this was the place where i wanted to announce the new species and i thought how substantial impact this is going to have and i went to the nobel symposium and there were very few people at the symposium who knew it was going to be announced and when i made the announcement you could hear a pin drop in the room. I mean here was assembled fifteen of the world's specialists in human evolutionary studies. richard leakey. Was there mary leakey. He was there a whole host of people from prestigious universities who published widely in here. I was nineteen seventy eight. I was at that time a young scholar thirty five years old making this announcement it had. Furthermore i've presented a new view of how the family tree looked. And i thought that this is going to generate enormous discussion. I finished my paper and there was a question and answer period and nobody asked a question. They broke for t people left the room. Only one scientists came up to me afterwards and said it's unbelievable and they were so taken aback by this that they didn't even want to discuss it and During the week's discussion whenever people would start debating a family tree. I would say you know what about my family tree. What about what i'm suggesting. And some people deliberately tried to ignore it and not consider it because it really upset their views of human evolution and i must admit that it was one of the times when i really had to dig deep. Take a deep breath and say. I believe i'm right and i believe that. I will be vindicated and that lucy will be accepted as australopithecus afarensis and that she will alter the view. Everyone's views of how we got here. Tell us about The significance to the way we think about the evolution of the family tree How lucy has changed our perceptions will. The the major impact which lucius had is on a previous scenario of human origins where people felt that there were a number of events number of evolutionary changes which all went together that our ancestors stood up to free their hands so that they could make use stone tools and in order to make use stone tools they had to have large brands and this has been pretty much view that dominated human origins studies ever since it was suggested by darwin in the mid eighteen. Hundreds and here comes lucy about three and a half billion years old. She has a very small brain. Not much bigger than that of a chimpanzee and we've never found any stone tool stone artifacts associated with her species. She's walking upright so it appears that upright by people posture and gait walking onto legs precedes by perhaps as much as a million and a half years the manufacture of stone tools and the expansion of the brain so it that means that there has to be a major new way of looking at what it was that sparked humans to separate from our closest relatives chimpanzees we know from genetic studies that humans and modern african apes closely related to one another that they share ninety nine percent identity in their dna and that means that the separation between apes and humans probably happened as recently as five or six million years ago. Not like people had believed that that separation was twenty million years ago that we were comfortably separated from these beasts. Right now we find out that they are very closely related to us that they are cousins in the true sense of the word of cousins. I mean they are remarkably close to us. richard leakey. The other paleo anthropologist were featuring today was born and raised in kenya. His famous parents louis and mary leakey helped prove that humankind had its roots in africa. Reportedly he carried on their work but he also spent portions of his career in conservation in government and politics and in environmental advocacy. His childhood growing up in this sort of royal family wasn't terribly happy. He told irv drazn them in this academy of achievement interview from two thousand seven that his parents were distant and that he didn't enjoy school at all. The good parts about my growing up in kenya. Was that my parents Times a year would go off somewhere into the wild places to look for artifacts logical tracy's fossils and these were generally in areas with his wildlife or natural beauty alone adventure and we should normally look forward to these outings for two three weeks at a time where we live pretty simply in very simple tenants but it was just a tremendous adventure in more than anything else bought mean in close touch with nature the environment and gave me a feel for the land. What else. I never really understood why. If people had the knowledge we will being tortured. It seems to me that we should be told things. That didn't i mean just made no sense to me for instance if people could add to make full why should i have to do it. I mean you. It was obvious the what people better at me. And why should i be learning these things. I remember i. I love to hear about stories from periodically listened to my parents and they visited visited because they were quite successful. People hearing about how people done extraordinary things gone to short replaces is particularly excited about the idea of science discovering new things. My parents used to talk. As i've done to my children about the the excitement of being fest to know something that you know lezo will become known to millions of people through through publication. The fastest see something to understand something. Those sort of concepts sexually excited me. I think watching nate shown puzzling about conflict. Which which still puzzles me today. And that is the the idea that we were so different from everything else around us that we created separately. I had relatives. Were very much in the judge and an uncle who's an archbishop in the church in east africa and the sort of awareness that that he believed humans were created in a special way created in god's image and had souls consciences felt pain and joy whereas the others didn't whether it was adult a cat elephant that these were somehow just jealous of flesh wondering around there. I was found that very hard to understand. I suppose one one of the moments. I remember most was as a young boy. When the president british queen's father died and she was to become the queen of england and chat services religious oriented school into the masses of jet services. We boys were forced to ten was catholic school and not being catholic. In fact being christened will baptize. I was excluded from mass into that kind. And i remember sitting outside and found a couple of praying mantis who amusement me because praying mantis often sit up with their hands together. Like this and i. I wondered if they too had been caught up in this conundrum. I'm happy a happy to us when everyone was seeing my heart. Sound communing with a two praying mantis about. They thought the whole thing when he was just six years old. Richard leakey found his first fossil. It's true that i used to from beijing. Probably about three or four go with my brothers Exhibitions and this was an expedition on the shores of lake victoria. It's particularly hot and humid air. What usually fossils found in areas. Where there's very little shade open air as erosion has caused a lot of rough badland country. So this is an opportunity to get out of the sun and the fossils full out on the surface found on the surface. Then you excavate when my parents were excavating some particularly interesting bone. And i think it was about but late morning and i had been with them since early morning very old not flies and it seemed to me well pasta time that i should be taken back for swim in the lake and lunch and i'm like a little boys before. Saying what time is it a win. Are we going Why don't you stall contact. Go back and i think it became an absolute pain in the neck. In fact i know it was investing. My father said just go off and find something to do. Find a fossil push off so pushed off wasn't usually encouraged this way and lou brush dental pick and didn't go very far unfunny now found a washing out on on the ground being told to date outside. I started picking away at it quite intrigue because the bone went on into the ground. Brush away the more debt. Pick away a few couples and tooth appeared and pushed on a little bit more now. The tooth pit and really became quite absorbing for five zero. I forgot all about lunch in the flies and liz happily poking away at might as well when shadows on a felony and they said what what are you gonna since it was bowed. Look it's got teeth and its own this more of it. They said oh. Why don't you move off find another. We'll take this one. And i said well at least we go to. Lunch will wait now. Because we're gonna see what she found said. I have gotten to western las. My volume lost lunch. Lost to swim in the lake filled damage. That's new way to live in southern. Got very negative about paleontology from that day on there. Ever any doubt bubble you your wife think still is and i wasn't a toll chal that i wanted to do what my parents did as i got older. It was very clear that they were very successful. And it's quite difficult to to be successful in in in the shadow of successful people. That was one too. I'd done so badly at school. That the options that i'd hoped available to me obviously weren't i was unemployable. My school leaving certificate. I found many as later. Headmaster said to my father that he couldn't think of anything in which i could be usefully directed as a career and he felt maybe the british army is entering private. Might be one option. Neither no i. I was pretty Glad to leave school and pretty loud when my parents said if you leave school and don't go on with the education now you're on your own. I thought that was the best. I've had for a long time. It was delighted to have that. And so i said to have made my way from there. I did few odds and ends. I made a little money. Trapping animals did some collections will the smithsonian wanted a collection of african birds For force skeletons to compare with fossil beds so i shot and collected a lot of african birds. I am collected some fairly unusual primates that we needed for research at yale. Made some money on on on those activities and but largely was hidden The cost of living in kenya and in the early sixties was relatively modest and and i could manage but it was very unsatisfactory and It looked though. I could go into a serious commercial enterprise running tours and safaris but as you had to take people with your enrich. The people ended up clients optical unites people inside and lie that island and then. I thought i'd try getting back to an academic training. And i went to cambridge where three or four generations of my parents side had been scholars at cambridge. And i thought i'd had about the old boy network. Old school tired. Felt they would take a fifth generation just on the name but Made very clear that that was not an option to me and said cambridge rejected me quite rightly At the time. I saw dozens cherish. And eventually i offer to to help by parents. Or when i some of the ongoing projects at that time the sixties was just getting underway. My mother discovered a skull of a gentleman. The national geographic society was supporting them. They needed logistics. They needed so. I began to work with him then found that they will quite willing to let me go off and look into the possibility of the sites in other places. I knew the fussell's. I knew the background energy in australia. Cheap so i'd be sent home for the vehicle in a couple of men to explore. The possibility of aol spent him being. So i got into field and prehistory that way Fortunately my first real venture into looking for fossils. Small group resulted in a very important discovery. That was in late. Sixty three early sixty four where we discover the lower jaw of on our show that have not been found before it was perfect condition. We found it on the fest fest attempt to and so that. Got me very excited. And i began to realize that napoleon lot more of these things that if you find these things you get a position in the ladder which you can't get to an issue either got education or something else and so by finding employment things you immediately get into the game which should be excluded from otherwise richard leakey success with his wife and colleague maeve leaky no longer depended on the family name their discoveries including the skeleton known as turkana boy. Advance the field tremendously. What is the key bosses clues assistance luck finding fossils. You've got to be looking in the right pace so an understanding of geology is very important that you've got to to to be able to locate areas where the might be fossil's because of the geological evidence for conditions under which fossils of formed an conditions under which fossils might now be re exposed version. Then you got to acetate that their offices where you're looking and then you look mighty harden and you can you can look look look not find an ingredient exact same place a year later. No is something that will time. And it's it really is a question of persistence and doggedness. But you could look as doggedly as you like in the in the wrong place and find it said element of of subliminal knowledge that plays a major part that a lot of people. Obviously don't have. I had it because i was raised in it. It was second nature to me when you do find something worthwhile. Richard leakey told earth jasmine. It's not always apparent right away. Maybe one of your team members picks up a scrap of bone that is clearly not from a boon monkey. It's not a lion or an antelope include it's may be from a human ancestor but it's just a scrap. You're searching excavating more often than not you reach a dead end but still you hold out hope so you may find something today and it may be another five or six days or even a week mall before you have enough pieces if then did you find additional pieces that all comes together and then suddenly realize that is really is something. Quite new. Quite different makes the the excitement. The the the buzz usually is gradually develop. It's not like a jab with electricity route. It's sort of slow build up to to the full consummation. I guess you could say very slow sex building up to the final moment. This is an analogy for that sometimes. It's not that new. You walk around the corner and now the whole thing is before you because it was washed out complete. That moment of connection to our prehistory brings a rush. That is unique. We are an unusual species. We do the strangest. Things will very complicated. And we're all interested in how we came to be what we are. Vast majority of people are quite happy with an explanation that was offered a couple of thousand years ago that that we were somehow the product of a very wise god who decided that we should be created in his image. Now somebody who's grown up in silence being steeped in the concepts of evolution. This data worked for me but that doesn't work to say what. I don't believe god made us if i don't know what did produce said i've had a natural inclination to want to follow the biological explanation. How we came to be on. That's a very complex and perron story and the exciting thing about it is. It can't be done in isolation of the origin of life. The whole story of zebra come from. Where did the giraffe with the fruit. Fly come from an an and waded the tomatoes from these these old equally interesting parts of our story. So that's that's what drives me richard. His interests in the whole story of the natural world actually led him away from paleoanthropology apology in the late nineteen eighties. The was wife made and one of their daughters carried on the work leaky was appointed by kenya's president to head the kenyan wildlife service and he was tasked with the streamlined tough task of stopping the elephant poachers who were wreaking havoc on. Kenya's wildlife and causing an international uproar leaky destroyed stockpiles of ivory. He made sure poachers were severely punished. And it worked. The elephant population came back then. He went into opposition politics to try and reform kenya's democracy and fight corruption but he was accused of treason and he was badly beaten up. He wasn't able to achieve what he'd hoped but his service is still something. He's tremendously proud of. This is the challenge so if you want something done by me suggested it then i will engage cards. You one's own. Convictions is very important. Part of seems sounds like a cliche. But i think it actually does capture a spirit of why a number of women and men are successful because they grasp onto something if you like a belief in themselves and their ability to make an impact and once you have that as part of the the really very few things you can't attempt to tackle that and push through in one way or the other and i think for me and i'm sure many others who've reached a position where other people at least in this successful You do surveying full well that you can be successful by failing thoroughly unless you can prove that something wasn't possible and you don't have to always it doesn't always have to end well provided what you did was done with sincerity and and sarah. I guess that is in party essence of science. You you have an idea you set it up you set out to prove it and if you work hard enough at it you either do prove it. We've proved utterly as role. And that's that's not quite satisfied but it's also satisfying to to get to the truth. And the truth doesn't always have to fit with what preconceived concept and i think. That's simple above all else. Richard leakey is a survivor professionally. Yes but also in a more literal sense in nineteen fifty six. At the age of eleven. He fell off a horse broke his skull and nearly died in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine. He was diagnosed with terminal kidney disease. His doctors gave him ten years to live. Then in nineteen ninety-three a plane he was flying mysteriously malfunctioned and crashed. Some people including richard leakey himself suspect it was sabotage. He had plenty of political enemies. Richard leakey lived but lost both his legs. I lost my legs but you know they look at it as what happened if the legs lost me. i buried the legs rather than myself and said that's a good thing then walking on artificial legs. This isn't the best way to get around but the advantages People got the way to help you. you wheelchairs too long queues and lines at customs and immigration If the seats too small in aligning take you legs often and fit in very comfortably. So there are a number of positives about this. And i wouldn't have by any means thing was only told me. A great deal about bipedal ism which is the fundamental of humanity. I've always lecturing about the important steps in becoming human one which is by beating them. Six seven million years ago probably thought about the implications of being bipedal and to me by is the key to the story levels of compassion that we seem to be program to an people. Don't necessarily come to that conclusion but when you have no legs you are totally dependent now. What struck me is if we developed by six or seven million years ago on the african savannah rough phony country the contravene a single individual who live twenty thirty years. Who didn't at some stage have his or her leg or legs one or two incapacitated if one leg is incapacitated with a spray and break or an app cicero foale unless somebody looks up to you. Only african savannah brings you water. Brings you food fends off the islands and then and the lions you won't make it and given that everyone was by the has to be genetic selection for empathy compassion and that is one right till we really need to rely on to get us through the difficult years into think. Globally as opposed to thinking nationally. Racially ill on the virus. Many forms of a bombing letelier so losing. My lakes told me that too in a very real sense. And it's become a major part of of my public message. Let's go back to fundamentals. We are compassionate with compassion. We can solve a lot of the problems that threaten us today. And the biggest of those problems. Richard leakey said is without a doubt climate change. He brought his unique perspective as a paleoanthropologist to the issue during a speech to the academy of achievement in two thousand nine. We tend to forget that about nine thousand nine. If not nine thousand nine point five percent of all life lived on this planet is now extinct and extinction is the basis for the human growth population. Growth in humanity is what is interfering with the process that has been natural for close. As far as we're concerned in terms of life we recognize and understand close to five hundred million years and so extinctions into happen but we shouldn't be causing them and that's the point we need to consider. The human population has grown beyond anybody's imagination. And saturday it will continue to grow and threats to our life will continue to to accelerate. I think every effort that can be made to hold onto species to hold onto the state pun which species live is worthwhile but let us less. Never forget that we are also species that has an ancestry where extinction has been common many forms earlier forms of humans have disappeared and we to like the cheeser is facing got down to a population that was probably not twelve thousand but was less than two thousand and everybody living on this planet. Today has a relationship with population lived in africa. Just sixty five thousand years ago humanity was at the point of extinction less than sixty five thousand years ago and has come through to the point where we are seven billion going twelve. This is the paradox. This is the concern. This is the challenge of our times. And how the current generation and the generations that we are we are. We are already inside of are going to deal with this. Confrontation is to see. I don't think it's a question of giving up. But i do. Think one of the things that characterizes this stage in the human story we tend to be very narrow inau thinking very few people are prepared to think laterally and see the thing in the context of our time on auto his sixty five thousand years as the species we today our time on earth as bipedal ape is six or seven million years ago we surely can afford to think in terms of one hundred years to end this episode. I'd like to return to something. Richard leakey said his interview in answer to the question. He posed as we started out our episode. What makes us human is a question on. I'm often an old put it another way. What is human well. If the definition of a life on earth had been done by a separate entity off the planet they would have said they're five apes one as being remarkably technological development and its ability to come up with myths and mumbo jumbo explains tony things that killian not right tell us get on with life in the forest and do what they were supposed to be doing but but we are we are just another eight and so what is a human while it's an it's an eight that's technology it's called notch brain complex language It's it's got a curious way to move around to legless which leads to compassion empathy technology in the brain. That don't always work in concept and could lead to the extinction of lots of other creatures. It has but it may well each run an an. And that's the sort of stupid ape we all ramsey. What is there left to say after that. Only that we thanked. Donald johanson and richard leakey. Well as the paleoanthropologists we heard from earlier for their fascinating work and their words here among their many other credentials. Donald johanson is the founder of the institute of human origins at arizona. State university and richard leakey is the founder of the turkana basin institute in kenya. If you want to hear more on the topic of evolution and exploration are episodes about lee. Berger jane goodall and stephen jay gould are pretty captivating. Just saying i'm alice winkler. And this is what it takes from the academy of achievement. What it takes to make possible generous funding from the catherine b reynolds foundation. Thanks to them and thanks to you as always for listening.

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Men in Blazers 04/21/20

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"This is Rebecca Lowe. Will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in. Blazers on the NBC sports network from the embassy row studios in the crackpot of the upper west side New York City and Shocker Roach spoiler alert from the crap part of the Hamptons New York. It's the men in blazers focused. Oh we back when Michael Jordan's go reputation as a is so good to hear your voice. It's like it's like a sunray breaking through the clouds of rainbow a Unicol went ahead. They tones the the GIDDY. Kenneth Really I only do when I see Christian. Pulisic made the bench in a primarily game. How you never happens very often rob. How're you holding up in the in on the mean streets of the Hamptons Dave Yet flew back. Roads flew back. You might say non essential travel before you say that my kids have been here The whole time so Hansi my kids in over a month and came back to see them in quarantine so socially distance from them. Just hang out in the garden with the dogs for another nine days. But it's been amazing to come back and see them. The weather is not that Los Angeles up here in the northeast. Say the winds are howling of gotTa fire crackling in the background roach. But it's beautiful to be back in the northeast when you said that I immediately thought of Sundell until I die as asymmetrically opposite east. The candidate to that one any one of my neighbors could buy semblance here and that lucile their money change it change it. Yeah just imagine Charlie method kids around Your Hood New York. I say remained slightly. Surreal the novelty. Yeah I mean you would've looked down life as long burn or we are in this for the long cold people the external world that we crave clearly close to us. Hey for some time and I'll tell you now more than ever arena life that that internal would dictate toe emotions in the most basic ways is the one that we're kind of in chew gum with really trying to mind. Lockdown life for fleeting moments of joy might crew minutes of purpose. That's going to be focused now. And in this morning's news la about how the real trick is to start each day North. Just a long list of what you need to do because we all have that but the mindset that you won't bring to it. I think is like genuinely for me. The trick right now. The intention of how with courage with creativity empathy and soy of love. I am trying so hard to courage right now. David my to do list of next level. I handle one on my phone and my notes program and also in a beautiful leatherbound book. I've got a system of a pencil and pen and digital. Have you gone quilt? Yeah occasionally I'm not doing anything on my to do list other than the sort of essential work stuff. I'm not getting any of my things. I've been trying to rearrange my toolbox rages. I've got a toolkit out here and it just is is in a frightful state roach. But I've been going to the hardware store not really directed enough on putting my toolbox back together but got to get on that. I love notion of having an incredibly long to do list and never getting past that one which is right out to do this. But Dad for years had a book which he carried around within called how to read foster and he never got past page one hundred and twenty on the whole life right now a reminder that wisdom that didn't really even appreciate enough at the telling we have to take clues off to have a good time words to live by. I will say I don't agree with those words at all by the way. Ask why I can see you nipples on this soon but will say something that gave me incredible strength. This week was doing Fridays happy. Zoom cool with all the essential work that we had over a hundred doctors. Nurses medical stuff still workers delivery operatives and lie. I mean to raise a bird and toast of the EGA MICE. That just true heroes. Each will Netanyahu the strength that wonder the opportunity to football yet but also talk about what they're doing and how it is there will. It was truly humbling. Julian sparring a made me. Think of this David. We're going to do it again by the way this Friday with teachers teachers who are Jeff. Oh ps I salute you. How you have had to reinvent your skills reinvent yourself step? In in a moment of darkness. They're a bit like Bruno. Financiers arriving at Manchester. You know it turn in a leading completely new skills new sit shoop immediately sent in their minds to it and excelling but it made me think David we should make a many blazes facemask for Chevy. We fly the would courage across the from not in the face would be another good one. But then I realized a men blazes facemask Truman and Blazers facemask. Probably have a large Holkar out in the front to help the ASS. It'd be pooled. Yes I feel in you contest coming on. Oh Wow what a segue wrote yes. 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Pm Eastern time Wednesday and Friday with back with another gop zoom happy hour. This one is for teachers any and all teachers interested in joining road at four thirty. Pm Eastern time. Friday to raise it last subscribe to our Raven newsletter on men in Blazers Dot Com. All sign up information will be sent out through that road. I'm tired from just reading that whole paragraph. Can we have a toast home? May I won't raise my first third butter. The day to the memory of nomadic hunter allege injury legion OI defender. Who Don't have corona virus this week the age of seventy six a true hail really enforce at the Bill Umbria of football. He was known by his phone. Lee bestowed pet name by your legs. And this is about when Liverpool had told me Anfield Iron Smith Chelsea had ron chopper Harris each team at a player who thrived in the mud just destroying anyone in Nevis in the teela logos chopping down redwoods as a Kid. I used to have genuine as on a regular basis about Norman. Hunter was that big a bogeyman. But yet she played a mix of skill and stale skill which deliver to League titles to Mighty Legionella. It'd his manager Don. Revie used to send them on with the instructions. Newman you win the bull and you give it to those around you. Who can play? He did he kept things simple even as a broadcaster which became upon retirement. He was asked. What do you think is going to happen in this game? And he said. See that round white thing. You've got to get it in that big. Nettie thing which is really just a symbol of how we saw the inherent simplicity of the game. That come to him so easy. I love the story of how really worked out how to build up his muscles. He was skinny as a kid by a daily ration of roar Reagan Sherry to speed up his development. If I'd had that David maybe I'd made the big dons. But it worked for him and beyond the physicality was fiercely competitive mindset which was captured by this law. Story told by one of his teammates. The former Spurs midfield Alan mullery. Who said we used to go on cruise ships for vacation? I remember we were on the trip. Rono holidays we were playing the crew. I was a referee. And he hit this fella in a fifty fifty challenge and the Fella did threesome assaults landed on his backside and I said no man these passengers you're playing with. They paid a lot of money to come on this cruise. And Newman said we still GONNA win Allen. We can't let them win. I raised my buddy fumbled Legends Peter Bonetti last week Norman. Hunter Bite your legs and his memory. This week may their lives. May that Kariya's made their stories. Never be forgotten courage. Broaddrick member the Nineteen Seventy. Fa Cup final cash. Elsie and leads. It was a classic it went to a replay Chelsea won it but it was arguably the even in an era of of English top flight football that was full blooded as he said earlier. This was really really took the biscuit they recently re showed this game to Michael Oliver and he refereed it and he said he would have given out. Eleven Red GOBS during the game in one particular scene which I'd forgotten which I literally watched together again. Just laugh my eyes of Hunter and in Hutchinson started having a full on fistfight on the pitch for which for which neither of them was even booked. Um Men being bad omen the game. It was an amazing thing to watch and I think it was hit. Eleven read codes before halftime. Michael Oliver said like twenty seven yellow cards in eleven red causes ice popped out of his head while he was watching. That what. You could get away with you. Could do open the surgery on the field on your opponent? And they just wave play on those. Were the days worth of what Peter? Bonetti also who we spoke about six podcasts to passed in about ten days ago and Norman Hunter involved in that game what a classic Roger. Very very sad loss. Okay Raj feels like we haven't had any real football since Norman Hunter and Peter Bonetti. We're actually playing but you've been following it closely. When could we see actual football return? Footballing pandemic indecision twenty twenty continues. I'm afraid they've football. Authorities keep meeting keep affirming that desire to complete the season and it's too Teleki. Ninety two games to play commercial imperatives baby but also keep leaving. The details vary as they have. Because you know they're in control of this reality in the same way that really. I'M IN CONTROL OF MY HAIR GROWTH. Muchly starting to believe and you'll understand this retinoids about narrative and entertainment. I think they're starting to vassily on purpose. David the will footballing authorities. It's a conscious decision to give us something to watch to fill vacuum and they football because the latest no news is that the Premier League teams that took in about a forty day. Enter the season. Just an incredible crush of games nose bleed pace. They also keep talking about China's squeeze signed before contract inspired Armageddon date of June the thirtieth. Which is they went. All the free agents are released. I believe they'll be debating that possibility right up until midnight on June. The twenty nine. Th you wafer we'll say doing their thing blathering about how they plan to jam all seventeen of the remaining champions the fixtures into just over three weeks in August with one city and Real Madrid restarting the competition. We all know how this is going to end. But the big clubs meeting at a designated time and a selected place to play a single round of elimination twister winner will get the trophy. The will be no asterisk. Saw Matt Dave and when you think about the underpinning the English journalist Matt Slater. He really captures the frenzy of the decision making right now. It's all today with the Premier League teams finances that cashflow liquidity or rather the lack of it and he writes famed investor. Warren Buffett once said it was only when the tide goes out the alone. Who's been swimming naked? And the gravity of the corona virus pandemic drag football's tied way out beyond the payer forcing lots of embarrassed. Bayer's to scurry back too. That beet shirts. What you make of it. Well number one not going to take a lecture from the press who themselves running ads on their own newspaper websites looking for donations so they can keep the fifth estate alive. Support The Guardian. Yes but it's it's like this ridiculous. It's not like journalists. Could be running this any better. What will football clubs went to have hundred million dollar cash reserves to go and take them through this crisis? I don't think anybody is going to go and have that look. I've said it before. The football all spoil has run on a calendar that's been perfected over in many cases more than one hundred years and football is chaos and the only thing that held it together was a predictable. Calendar that predictable calendar is gone and football is even more chaotic than Abba. You also have problems. Is that just up? And Down the Premier League you have several teams who do not want to play anymore games because the loss of TV money is not as severe as the potential threat of relegation. So you've got at least four or five clubs hovering just above the relegation zone it on a planning more. They absolutely don't WanNa play anymore. You got other clubs. Who are desperate plan? You've got some teams in the middle of the table. Who probably don't care that much really when it comes down to it and then you've got the issue of domestic football cup football you know. Tv contracts offered different people. European football international football is completely out of the window. We're not even thinking about that. That's all being postponed by year. I know I'm just crying over the lack of nations league football rotate. It kills me the whole Emba- made in my affections Dave until we lost it. Joni Mitchell was talking about the nation's Egwu and she said you don't know what you've got till it's going to be speaking to couple of my mates who are involved in the ownership of clubs. Charlie methuen around Europe. It's an impossible situation. And this is what the way that football is structured is not really built to to handle so I don't know even single entity leagues even Major League. Soccer is going to have a huge amount of trouble figuring out how to restart. It does feel in theory that the idea of taking. What is it four or five neutral grounds. Maybe Wembley may be George's Park. Maybe twickenham maybe a couple of grounds like by the stadium of light. Which isn't a primarily ground anymore and playing games in those stadiums and trying to secure them three games a day spaced out so that players and officials on MTV crews on intersecting with each other that takes an enormous amount of planning. And I don't quite know who is going to be at the helm of all that planning they need to do all the Games on. Ufc fighter oil and but the big news this week the very same time. Oil prices tumbled to negative the seven dollars. A lot of roads made a fortune of store the couple of gallons in roommate but Newcastle so laughable. They announced they can be taken over by a Saudi Arabian ownership group and what Saudi Arabia. Newness great well. He's only lead by Saudi crown. Prince Mohammad bin Salman a reported. Three hundred and seventy four million dollar deal currently being Ju- diligence. I'm sure we've real minute. Detail by the Premier League Fits Appropriate Committee Gordon Journalist Barney ronay compared Newcastle's dreadful old owner Mike Ashley to that perspective New Saudi bosses did it beautifully said Mike Ashley pigheaded retail magnate Saudi Arabia blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley Zero Hour Contracts. Any sport shock. Saudi Arabia beheaded the seven men in a single day. Mike Ashley showed disrespect to Rafa Benitez Saudi Arabia murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. They've attuned funds so desperate to see the back of the thirteen year. Reckless tenure of Mike Ashley that they're excited to chafer regime that you assassinate journalist yes absolutely tuned. Fans seem to be delighted about this. They've always said there are a big club. Why shouldn't they have a despotic? Billionaire Group of dictators owning them all appropriate clubs that got it is and this ownership group seemed to have big ambition for the tune and that famous black and white stripe and that brand which got smerch by the goal series of movies. It's I could see it working but I don't think tuned fans are going to mourn the exit of Mike Ashley and I think there are willing. You see lots of articles right now. Let Roll Willing to give the new ownership a chance. Give them a chance. I mean you look at it from a Newcastle Fan Perspective. They the most long-suffering incredibly still passionate fanbase. Who HAVE BEEN EXPLOITED? Isn't even the word violated Omega for thirty years by terrible off the terrible? Another up in the North East of England. Sundell until I die territory if year Newcastle funds will not like me saying that. But it's up there the two cities kind of run into each other. It's a beautiful city but it's in a region where industry is long flat and the soul of the football club lives on in the memories is provided for generations of decent only working class families. They some these. You've got to watch Mike Ashley. A manage made millions by exploiting workers like them just completely crap on the one thing they do the one thing that could still bring them pride and pleasure having said that from a human rights perspective as terrible as Mike Ashley's bent getting rid of him is to me. Just call me stupid enough of a reason that we should embrace the Saudi dauntless they. They won't be clear. They do have big plans for new costs but then not doing those plans because a longtime lovers of football anymore went Abu Dhabi Manchester City poker chips and this is true for Qatar with the World Cup using football to do what's called sports washing really to whitewash the image through sports. It's not just the football problem in boxing. Wwe and Formula One. They've offered the money. This one does feel different. It it does feel Is next level having said that the takeover is going to go through it? Sounds unbelievable but the premier league's fit and proper test? It does not clear. The ordering a journalist to be murdered in horrific circumstances fulls fowler that but football is the home of athletic wonder. It's also the home of cognitive dissonance. Where fans are able to separate the emotional experience of watching elite collectives master the ball and the rational thought process of ugly geopolitics and once that game returns the emotional wounds. GonNa Overwhelm all the ethical analysis all the GOP smacking ugliness of what's about to occur and it will be full on her way the lot certainly dark. Okay but let's hit the switch. That's turn the positivity backup to eleven with some GOP questions from your amazing w Gop. The Bull podcast hotline cool. The man at six four six five zero nine hundred seventy that six four six four five zero nine four seven to question the first. Iraj it's a Lou from Charlotte North Carolina. I'm a Chelsea supporter originally from New York City. My question to you as someone who who did not get into football until about twenty seven years old is. They're asked sports that you didn't get into until you were little up in the years or if there was a sport that you had to fall back on the most other than Football what would it be? Thanks have a good one. This is a timely question. Lee from Shala hotoke yesterday. How this weekend somehow harder than any to Miss Sports. In general soccer in particular I identify deep inside and numerous empty chasm of unfulfillment like a set of muscles. I couldn't access or stimulate without live sports and I just know then are condemned to atrophy with a low grade moaning. Dial never be able to silence like a nasty case of indigestion. Is there a sport? They the you've only gained an appreciation of in recent years. Well I mean certainly you know the major American sports you know the NBA The nhl the NFL. I was only Exposed to those when I came to America sort of from the age of seventeen so all of those but you know more recently professional darts and by the way hats off to Gop Modern Jeff. Ob's Heroes Works Barry hearn. He's got the PD and running with. They're doing the at home masters where professional darts players throwing darts at home in the kitchen kitchens and playing the game competing against each other. What the that that basically having to to make sure they're standing the right distance away on the okay and cool their scores. In what the world champion by. The way was disqualified because his wife strong enough which I love that story today. It's sneaking cigarettes. They lay out just like it's so good. Just upside Kharkov at home football. That'd be good. That'd be genuine. They made him watching football as just vaping thinking the non-camera amazing but can I tell him a new one fraud which you just which ended last. I would say ten days I've discovered. This is the huge growing sport. Not so much in America. But it's starting to come of touch tennis. Which is tennis played on a smaller core? It's like Ping Pong meets tennis road. I know this platform tennis and paddle tennis. It's sort of like that but for some reason it's better because he's played the played with something like a real racket with a foam ball is played on a twelve meter by five meter. Corporate singles taught me just by six meters and just watch highlights on Youtube of touch. Tennis Raj I feel like this is your sport. I feel like I know you're good Ping Pong player. I think this could be a sport where you and I can go right up against each other touch tennis. I've always wondered if there is. I am naturally a Wolf Kloss Helena. Sport I just haven't had the scout from that sport. Identify ME UP. That badly postured. Five foot ten and a half kind of fairly lazy pelotas Adherent is actually unbelievably genetically predisposed to win this sport. Maybe I always maybe like ferreting. Well something or sending humans down hole to find triple similize Dave Earth. Be really good at the greatest touch tennis player of all telling take a look. Tell me what you think. But I think he'd be quite good at touched. My Spore in later life has been a sport of rediscovery. Because when I moved to America I did fall in love of all American Sports. So hard so fast mic new. English football on television but all say to watch American sport with fresh is just the marketing. The brule cost pizzazz the blazes. The primly didn't have any of that crap then and I fell in love with the Luc. Longley Era Chicago Bulls. The only Kohl's Washington capitals the OSCE Gayan Jerry. Cora Chicago White SOx always the Baz always the best but when football soccer took up more and more of my life it just devoured my mom with holidays out for those American sports and our about five years. When I just watch football football football premier league LALITA Bundesliga Syria Champions League league women's football NWS l. But a loss four years for so many different reasons been about creating room for American sports. Aflaid back into my life. Nfl NBA NHL to begin with them baseball and WNBA. In like a second wave enough save it. It's wonder all more especially now. The sports are cross pollinating more than they ever have before you know. Nba Stars during the Premier League. Premier League stars revering the NFL and that crossover of human experience and leadership and elite performance. That's where I'm most interested in living right now taking many blazes you know the Steve Kerr into a and which he can effortlessly move from Michael Jordan insights to Europe and KLOPP talking about Mosala and then back again. That's where Mahar minds. Well we'll next week's release of a film we made of Nhl Star Victor Hedman. Who wanted to discuss the audit defending on the voice and just casually worked in Virgil van. Dyke that's the sports world either for the very and I think right now the one that I miss most I gotta tell you watching the last dance right now on. Espn amazing thirty for thirty series. I fell in love with the NBA. When I moved here in one thousand nine hundred nine unfortunately it was an offshoot of the NBA. Called the Orlando Magic. But I ate Michael. Watching that documentary just reminded me of how much I just loved basketball. And I'm I'M GONNA go as soon as that comes back. I'M GONNA go and rediscover my love. I've been watching the NBA. Finals watched Kobe destroy the NBA finals. From a few years ago. I've been watching all golf. Tournaments Raj weirdly old. Golf tournaments are just as good as they were then. So I've been enjoying watching that. Some fashions navigate our style. We'll say about the Michael Jordan documentary the lost. Don't well the last dance as the last dance in America the last dance you know I arrived in Chicago and within two or three days. Normal programming was broken into by news. Headlines the Michael Jordan had retired for the first time and I was at. She wracked with guilt. I thought it was made like I'd come to see this man who would ask you post on my bedroom wall in Liverpool is above my bed for seven years at had that one of his tongue out dunking so he retired almost as soon as I got there and I fell in love that season. What she let the tenacious Luc. Longley always my favorite player because he just seemed like an everyman. Who just like my lewd happened to win back to back to back titles and I was fascinated by that human being Steve. Kerr also similarly tenacious. Toni KUKOC CHEVAL OF AC- Scottie. Pippen just a man who was next level in his own right. I'm going to release this weekend. The jewelry of last year was the Steve Kerr into this. No doubt about it was good humanly that good but in two thousand fifteen Jay DUBB's reminded me that we tracked down and it took me about seven months of detective work. We tracked down Luc Longley to Western Australia and on Thursday. We're going to re release both of these pods side by side. They are absolutely gorgeous. And I can't wait for next Sunday for the last dance to return to allies but listen to that Luc Longley Part we listen to that. Steve Kerr part give you a slightly different? Pov on Michael Jordan within a geography next batter up. Hi Raj this is David Burke from Moorpark California. I support La Galaxy Manchester United and our us. National Teas my question. Is this a few years ago? You engage covered the running of the Bulls in Pamplona. I will never forget the look of W K. Aarp level Turkey dropped on your faces from the first day. When you had to wrap up the broadcast my question is what are your memories of that experience courage. Turkey drop classic television named check. David Burke David. What are you remember most about Spain? I remember not being able to sleep because of the concert going on all night just outside our Hotel Room. I remember that I mean we look quite good and not white shorts and a little white outfit. I thought I think he wore long pants roach. You didn't expose your little nominees. Secca suit me. I had Raymond was it was it was that. I mean the fabric of a sex got. It was an extraordinary experience. Being in Pamplona in some ways we got more into the culture of the entire festival than we did into the actual bull running and bullfighting which I think both of us found somewhat horrific legible slaughter. Yes yeah that funny how that works isn't it? We go into the culture and the history and the tradition rather than the you know the Bull Theater and the food the food which is outside of San Sebastian Pamplona has some of the finest restaurants in Christendom. I mean that was that was amazing. I remember all of those things. It was honest. They one of the most rewarding and exhausting experiences in my life. I mean for eight days. We woke up at four thirty in the morning to head down to the single motion Rickety Broadcasting Compound. I mean every when we were broadcasting. It was always a surprise to me that our platform we were on. Didn't fall into the Bulls as they ran cost but to this day when I set up a wake up on my phone that Kinda shrill bell noise when I hear that my first instinct when I wake up for a second is to think back in Pamplona and have to meet Dave and charge towards the broadcast for me. The jury was twofold. I mean mastering new skills learning a whole new sport to talk about and learning the author broadcasting live sports which was new to us. I mean that I love David. Thou loved and I'd love to do more love to do more and the second was being in Spain with the men in Blazers team. I revere that nation so much. We love the land. We both loved the the traditions the cuisine especially the Rio higher but to have the opportunity to learn about the Spanish civil war had never really understood and which still defines. The country in waste spoke at a measly unspoken just the beauty of that nation. I took a train ride from Pamplona to Barcelona to meet my wife when we were done. And you know I love a train ride to cut through the Spanish countryside. The all towns the fields. The human wonder with a bottle Rio here. I'll say I've rarely been happier than on that couple of our journey. Just the source of it now makes me yearn for the day we can travel. The Globe began expand their minds and revel in the one of this off limits. Will David Yes Ropes Man. Murray's final question from Jeff. Oh P we'll Nicholson. Who Writes Rajon? Dave oh I am. One of the many who've had a wedding postponed Judah Kovic nineteen. The Big Day was supposed to be. The eighteenth of April is soon but was postponed until August in all the struggle and confusion of these times. I've found the pardon chat. Shit get answered to be a source of comfort hoping courage so what would be the best advice in regards to marriage that you can give sincerely will a Liverpool fan in Atlanta. Marrying a bone fail. Well first of all congratulations may ado raise my aching my sta toast to you and you brought to. Beta life to love. The he hasn't done it yet. Human connection he she knew what it depends. Why is he's feeling things and I want to raise a toast to feeling things because it can be shattering to approach a life milestone like this and after postponing can a consumption fares and doubts. Shouldn't be then you powerless to change them because of the old corona. But what do you Dave? What points to have for will? Oh God that Liverpool. Buying thing is a complicated one before vice about marriage make. I have no advice. I am the last person in the world to give any advice about marriage for those of you who know the brief history. My personal life would certainly show but I tell you something about weddings. Justice gives you more time to figure out how to make the wedding the best day of your life not the best day of anybody else's life the person you're worried about. Oh they're going to be so upset if they're not invited or I've got to go and do this or I'm not gonNA keep up with another wedding that another friend as John had. This wedding is for you and your bride to be. It should be all planned around you to having the greatest night ever and getting great photographs of that night. Nothing else matters. If it's a Liverpool in a bind fund and it means I need to get Philippe Katina to minister get while he's still a but my my thinking on the wedding itself. I talked about to be candid in a chat check. Gandhi says I think three episodes ago the I actually think marriage is a bill on founding myths. And the good news is you're GONNA draw strength from having a myth that's like. It's not a fairytale meth eating night. Get engaged by having a dozen White Swan surprise you partner by swimming across a lake filled with dry ice and no swans pulling in a large barge filled red roses and on that Barges Pavarotti and Pavarotti's carrying a ring to. Would you like to me get? Don't want that kind of myth is found in origin of any good relationship. 'cause you know you. Myth cumby perfect because relationships are not perfect imperfect and you'll meth is going to be imperfect now with the council wedding it's going to be one of struggle of having to support each other in time of challenge which to me is what any good relationship is all about in footballing terms marriages about the five to dominant victories against your cross city rivals. It's all about growing out these one. They'll wins when you playing badly. It's about supporting each other's in bad times. Lifton each other by empathy. Patience forgiveness pulling this ultimately going to be a bit James Mill. They're going to be a bit more than they are. You NEYMARS urinal those. It's hard bloody work. It really is consistently every day so that would be my advice. Brace yourself commit hard work. That's what partnership committing to think of some one before yourself which is almost not wired in a way to do that to harvest things today so no this time. It's hard for you. Well I can't even imagine bruisingly but workout consciously make memories of these times. Watch killing Eve together during that bottle of wine that you've always thought you were going to save for a rainy day. Poor on your favorite song dance to it together. Every Friday night may memories now of these times because relationships forged in challenge their relationships that are ultimately built a Valerian stale. So well courage. Big Love to you get in short. Never Marry Ronaldinho. Unless you've got a divorce lawyer Okay Roger instead of the Ball Malt. We're going to do something slightly different this week inspired by that. Me Of President William Jefferson Clinton going around holding albums buy albums we mean records Roach. We're going to list out four favourite albums of all time Roach. What are your should go. First Dave I've got to give this one some four albums. I can listen to you every day without skipping a trap. That's what you want for me. It's GONNA take a second go for it Dave. To be honest I had no idea we were going to do this until called reading the section right here but ironically I have been out here in Bridgehampton. One of the reasons are so happy to get here as I've got an amazing turntable a setup and I've got my beloved record collection out here. May So this is pretty easy for me except this changes. This isn't a fixed list. You'll fall favorite albums of all time changes depending on where you are right now. I must say right now my partner and I are going through an sounds ridiculous because it's the most famous band of all time. But we're going through a love affair again with the Beatles and I gotTa tell you to Beatles albums salt and pepper and revolver and actually I think the revolvers even better than sergeant pepper but salt and pepper is mind blowing. I think those might be themselves the two greatest albums of all time in there by the same band so those two phenomenal recording techniques before the age of pro tools just the song writing the performances the variation just the ordering of the tracks. The album's themselves are just so beautiful. The cover art the lyrics like every single part of them so good and then the two albums I've consistently enjoyed for that have stood the test of time for years and years and years and years that I always go back to all donny. Hathaway everything is everything that was his first studio album donny. Hathaway A had led a tragically short life born in Chicago. Wrote you beloved Chicago but raised in Saint Louis? One of the great songwriters and performers in the history of of soul. R&b His album. Everything is everything is just phenomenal. Dissed the liner notes themselves worthy of a Pulitzer. I love that album and the album that you'll remember listening to as a teenager and I always go back to again and it reminds me so much of my youth but I'd say it's outland astamour. The first police album great show. May I listen to that record so much? Just the sound was so new. The power from those three men so phenomenal same time. Another three piece band. The JAM would superb. Could've put any number of their albums home too but allender stem more. Put It on crank up the volume. Listen to that record. That record is phenomenal. Honorable Mention also to blunders these parallel lines. Because I love that but my forward salt and Pepper Revolver Donny. Hathaway's everything is everything and outland us to more polices first album. May that opening three Rio now. Land us the more next to you going into so lonely going into raw. Sam May be one of the greatest threesome since the note ritual listen and thighs outstanding outstanding. Xiao Mei huge huge respect. I mean you can't really separate out from from parallel lines. The blondie album. That was all made synonymous with the album at the same time. But I don't know if you knew this David but I'm chilly with not really talked about is writing a memoir about growing up really. Don't talk about that before the premarketing face of your book is pretty phenomenal. I honestly don't know if any listeners have ever dug their way out of prison with a spoon but I will say that. The experience of writing fails like pretty much. How imagine that experience goes down? Some Lewis show. This book is ever GonNa Finish. I am making heavy progress. And the reason why is I'm listening and re listening to a ton of albums came of age to write in ones that made me who I am so I am in this mindset right here right now. Say My four. It would be a five honorable mention that you have given me permission. To do beastie boys licensed to well. They doubt that will be in there. That still sounds unbelievable to me. In every single way part from the lyrics which are fairly repulsive so that one lies outside motto for I were Bay Marvin. Gay's what's going on the single greatest album. I believe that has ever been released. Just the lyrics the orchestration the concept the impact the timelessness when I think about the idea of love though because the Marvin Gaye album is pretty dark and I think about love a lot particularly at this moment. In time I go to Van Morrison's Weeden Fleece which I just save I think comfort ye is. It's actually the song I wanted to walk down the aisle to at my wedding but the DJ got it. Cocked up. Played ferry across the Mersey. Instead you're still furious telling you that Lou Reed New York. What an Alabama last year of high school in Liverpool album was really the soundtrack semi finals Miami Levels. They vet scratchy guitar. The spiky drumming but Israeli lucy the anger which just I was blown away by its fury even surpass my own and I love the fast songs. I love any fast song where the singer get so emotional so angry either one that he or she give any more than they have to. Just let the guitars rock out to close the song. This album's full of them to be clear. Seventeen-year-old Raj had no idea of ninety seven percent of what Lewis singing about and I actually met him when I moved here and told him that I had never been when I heard the album to New York at his loved his energy. He sings lines. I'll take Manhattan in a garbage bag with Latin on. Atwood says it's hard to give a shit these days and young Raj listens that was I. Oh my God i WanNa move there. Don't quite understand it but I do understand that. The album's amazing final album and I'm Ryan about it right now. The impact Tracy Chapman had on my life. I'm right about this afternoon. Her message. Take control assert yourself. Do not be passive fight to change everything a play that was reinforced by the purity of tone of voice which embodies tenacity in the face of suffering the album. The debut album remained my guide star. I'm one of my goals in this post pandemic world. David is to interview. She's the what what this to this to. Celebrities of wanted a gap on many blazes. Since we began a neither of them will come on one as Primo Levi and he won't come on because he's dead the other one Tracy Chapman and I'd love to sit down with that and just talk about that. Release track by track to that. The album always will be my number one to say Meryl Streep Look Good to have Meryl Streep on here. By the way speaking of who always reminds me of a Meryl Streep source of the closest thing we have to Meryl Streep in the men in Blazers Universe Rebecca no Laura Linney routes gop. Laura Linney Double L. I have been binge-watching Ozark over the last ten days. Wow Wow how did I not what this before? It is just is just extraordinary television extraordinary writing extraordinary directing and just out of this world acting as it's a weird television show because the first couple of episodes are not that good. You've gotta get three gets better and better and better and better that shape. You're absolutely right. Oh my God so so good on almost at the end of season three just got one episode to go Salt Lake. Greatest thing to watch before you go to sleep. Say because it's fairly dog. But my God is good. I've been just adoring every second. I watched unorthodox which is which is pre sobering and then plunge right into fowler three. Gop's will remember. When we at Lille razz come on the podcast talk about Fowler. Which is just a remarkable sensation at this point. Found three is just so my slapstick hilarious. Kind of kitsch of one. That just a bull doctor who has been plucked out of obscurity. The Great Leo Rows Given Budgets and just made himself the sex symbol that people walk up to him and just oleck close full off instantly. He's on the move bike. They will fire at me from all angles that bullets quilt. Mel told me and I will kill. It's genuinely told me become it was. The first season was a fascinating geopolitical exploration of the Middle East by season three. It's still worth watching it. Still wonderful but by accident. It's almost become like a midlife bull squat man's fantasy life of what he could be as an action here booth worth watching for equal reason but this why is only surreal about the and the ad of a midlife bald. Keep doing it for us Leo rows. I will what you anything may also wrote. Jude enjoy this. One of my mates. Who's in the? Us Air Force reserves and a commercial pilot also. He turned me onto this amazing Spitfire documentary. That's on Netflix. I think it's just called Spitfire. That is just phenomenal. History of that remarkable playing the design of it the conception of it and its performance and the way that that that machine changed went through more than twenty marks more than twenty versions sort of kept its military going long into the era of jet aircraft jet propulsion an absolutely phenomenal phenomenal documentary. I'd say the bird save the Nation all that we'll say less thing I have tapped in to anything from the Second World War watching almost everything. I Cam Right. Now I'm watch- finished watching the brothers and I'm watching band of brothers all over again. I cannot get enough of the nasty just a hair everyday. Heroism is absolutely implicit in that in the battle of Britain is just a must watch everything right now so I will be all over that day as soon as we partied roads. You can follow us on twitter at many places. Imc Davis at Bennett on Instagram and Blazers are MCI Davies on facebook blazes. You can always send you ravens the capital so who can always email us at many places g mail dot com vendor roach war pig. Who wants to sex Matombo like snacks? Bullets Bullets win that Gloria Bulls lose to tweet Africa Rackham Mate Kung Fu fighting America. Love you love you dave.

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The Morning Toast

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3: Meeska, Mooska, Mickey Mouse: Wednesday, January 6th, 2021

"Good morning millennials. Welcome back to the morning toast. Happy hump day. I'm very appropriately sitting here with two boys. That i just love to hump. The first is theo as he is the official mascot of hump day and the other is my co host for the second day in a row. The man that i sleep with every night and the man that i love mr ben soffer. Hi ben how are you dave. Do you remember that commercial. Of course they do. I just hope day aiko. It's by the way. Geico unbelievable advertise. I'm believable marketing strategy. Whoever it's and it's funny it's like you'd think that over the years it would change but really whoever's in there just as in there and there till they died i guess we'll know when the guy co creative guys gecko. It'll go downhill. Thank you so much for joining me here. Me here today delivery shaded. How are you doing since your last stint on morning toast yesterday. People stopping you in the street. Actually last night. I was accosted in the streets by hordes of fans of the morning. Post a group of three. I will say high school ladies in masks as i walked down the street yelled. Oh my god it's the husband of. Oh that's funny. I was like no. It's not and i kept walking and your pride in my god. It's with no jobs husband and her dog. I recognized your dog. Things are you is your pride. A little butthurt. It's just like the of so much more famous than me. By the way this one hundred percent you'll get stopped in the street. Like on a daily basis sexually exhausting. That's why he's obviously. He's like exhausted from literally putting society on his back. He's so incredibly famous. It's unreal. it's disgusting it's disgusting. I wanna kill him speaking of sending. That's okay. I don't know how to transition yesterday on the podcast. I totally forgot to ask you to do your mickey mouse clubhouse impression because i told everyone about it on monday show about how we watched so much mickey mouse clubhouse over christmas break because we spend time with our knees and she fucking loves mickey mouse clubhouse and we were running around the house being scott and then we discovered. Has this incredible talent for mickey mouse impersonations. So i'm i i want to say just go for it Sky mickey mouse. That's who really good it is right. It's really good. And you know what. I think you don't do that. Many good impersonations neither do i. It's really hard skill. I think the only impersonation that i do decently is like shakira. I think i do too good. What's your other one. You itchy nyah. Doubtfire dear that's very good. The truckers have arrived. They haven't been here in a while since they were here for teasha but the truckers for you but you have arrived. That's good yeah i only do shakira half well here to pay to get out there. And he'll be here. That's like it's gotten worse over time. That's good but i wish i could do more impersonations. We should start putting that craft. It's funny. I think that because mickie zone act. Naturally i wonder what others i do. It's like i didn't try to learn mickey reich. He just came to me. You didn't choose. Make mickey cosio chose me. Yeah sky sky. Mickey it's the mickey mouse clubhouse come inside it's fun inside. It's the maki mouse. Club has a great show for you guys today obviously know everyone just shooting in because we gotta talk about him in konya like the news of the day. Have you know what the news kimmy you know like. of course. okay okay. I just wanted to know. Look the the big so we have a great show for you guys today. Fast five stories. Of course. we'll be recapping. Kim and kanye jacqui is devastated. That she's not here but it's wednesday so we're also gonna do a little tv recap. I want to talk about bridgeton. Real housewives of dallas very quickly bent and watch. Just wanna give a couple of thoughts and then obviously your trumpsters which is our advice segment and hopefully you guys wrote in some good stuff for me and ben. I haven't seen them yet. They've been prescreened. And hopefully we'll be able to deliver some life changing advice. I've been told that. I deliver life-changing advice by hill. That's something that people say about me. Ben who is a great mickey mouse impression. He doesn't unbelievable you and he gives life changing advice. I just i'm not saying jump believe you. I would just love to know who these people are. You'll know when you see who will you'll see the okay so then we should just die to end because we just gotta get to talking about coming in the unbelievable news that i literally reject from the universe. So let's just dive right into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast very good. Then you probably have experienced clearing your throat. You're probably very good at that. Does feel good in the back of your throat. Now it clears different portion like those throat clears that are listening. They know that you can clear the beginning of your throat or really more towards the south against on sash. A kick last night with your throat clearing. It was the fact that i didn't stab you in your sleep. I should win an award guests. So that was deeper throat clearing. I was trying to cleanse myself against versus the more upfront throat. Clearing more focuses on the roof of your mouth. That's where you get the okay. I think that's enough. Oh speaking of which we were on video. Lets you sneezing on. The toast is one of my favorite pastimes. But i do a little dance with it. But we're not recording video today. 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Okay paychecks. they were the first reported so according to them. And now it's on the cover of the new york post and now it's being reported. Widely that kim kardashian and kanye west are getting a divorce near the facts from paychecks. And then let's just go. You know it's one of those things like you know like historical events where you remember where you were when you found out like. I literally remember where i was. When i found out that kim and kris humphries were getting a divorce. I was in history class in the eleventh grade and it was really traumatizing. So now i remember. I was sitting in my bad doing acuna when i found out. Do remember where you were when you found out that kobe passed away. Of course i was in my bed again. Because i'm always mad but there are certain things that like trigger like the you remember where you were and this is going to be. One of them was walking around bloomingdale's aimlessly looking at my phone. Saying what the fuck yeah. Kim kardashian and kanye west are over multiple sources. Tell page six. That divorce is imminent for the hollywood couple. With crashy and hiring divorce attorney to the stars laura wasser. They're keeping it low key but they are done says a source. Kim is hired. Laura wasser and they're in settlement talks. Kim forty has hasn't been seen wearing her wedding ring and khania forty-three remained at his. Fourteen million dollar homing ranch over the holidays. Instead of spending it with the kardashian family who drew criticism for their extravagant celebrations. Kim got carnegie go up to wyoming so they could live separate lives and quietly get things sorted out to separate and divorce. She's done the source said so. Let me just explain that. Like when i saw this story at first i just completely rejected it. I have seen in the past year. People have always said stuff about human but definitely in the last year when he's kind of been going through some mental health issues and he's been on twitter like saying stuff about her family and kim actually spoken out about about the whole situation. People have said this before. So i didn't really pay it any mind. And then they announced they were gonna put it on the cover of the new york post which i thought was a really big deal and then it started to be reported. More widely from like ian. Tmz and i was forced to like look in the mirror. I couldn't ignore the story anymore. And as much as it pains me to say this. It appears as though it may be true. And i just don't know what to do with this information. Like honestly thinking of all my stands. I'm thinking of jackie. O like this is really sad because if people talked about them forever but there was always proof in there in the success of their marriage like they weren't getting divorced together for eight years they have four kids. Like see what you want but this is what a happy marriage looks like. And i can't say that anymore and that's really sad. It is sad. Especially because i just don't feel like this is what like kim head wanted. Like people can always say like. Oh they'll find another husband always do like it's pretty clear that she definitely loves him like stayed with him. I did working with kids. That's a big deal but there are plenty of people that get divorced with children in loveless marriage is like i think that she stayed with him through some really tough times in his life that it only became something that again. I don't know them. I know nothings conjecture. Yeah but it seems like it affected her and her family too much publicly. That that's sort of needed to. Yeah i feel like she's not that shallow. I feel like i think that there's a lot i think between him running for president and then dropping out and then all of the alarms and it's just like it's not. It's not about being shallow. It's like there's just so much there's only so much there's so much publicity that you can just like sort of push away where it's going to start to affect your own mental health and your family. That's interesting. I mean when whenever i think it was maybe like kim's each your hollywood story are just like whenever she refers to her meeting. She really wasn't taken seriously by a lot of people before before. Connie like and her family. We're just regarded as reality stars. Kim was constantly trying to break into the world and connie brought her as his plus one to the met gala. She was like he was really trying to break into fashion like nobody gave her the time of day until connie was like. Yeah this girl. And she's my wife and brought her everywhere and like really gave kim and the whole family like a true sense of legitimacy. So i don't know. I don't know if kim would be so quick to like. Oh you're giving me bad. Press like at some point. I think kim is like too famous to care. It's not. I just think that it's like nobody knows what's what goes on in a marriage and i think the small bid that we do know which is a very public struggle with mental health issues. I think that can take a toll on a marriage. I do agree. I'm just really sad. Like and i don't like i know it's gonna be exciting because i'm like a pop culture podcast host. I'm like nebi. Get to see who. Kim is dating. I heard a rumor that she's dating ben. Jones who is do you know that. Is i know the name. He's a host. Cnn and he worked he worked with him on a lot of her prison reform and like a lot of the tv spots. She did for alice. Mary johnson People say that she's eating him. I don't believe that there's also like an insane rumor on tiktok that connie west is dating jeffrey star which is like so far fetched. But i just. I hate that. We're here. I don't wanna know kim stating because i know she's home wiscon- yea yea i mean if she's dating somebody right now then. I take back everything that i said. And if he's dating somebody like dating sure like if you hear that like if the rumors right him. Jeffrey star trek whole crazy thing. I'm sorry i even put that out there. That's just not true. But like i don't know. I don't think that you get out of loveless marriage. I mean you don't get out of a loving marriage and just jump into dating someone when you're so busy like that's like her thing so busy i can't breathe like i remember. I watched like a couple of episodes of the embarrassed. He could say you watch it now. I wish that i watch more of it. I've only watched a couple episodes of this season. And i specifically remember an episode where it's like kim talking about how she hasn't been alone and mike. She has her family. She has her business like four. Kids is a ton and it's like okay so now you'd assume that if she's going through separation with her husband that she wouldn't try and make her life busier so the thing is. Is that what you were watching that episode. We were watching when they weren't quarantined. Connie offered to take the kids. Connie has been in wyoming for most of quarantine so i think that they have decided to not be married well over a year ago. That's my opinion and they are now only deciding to be public and actually filed the divorce papers. So i think if either one of them is dating someone there are well within their right that they haven't been like emotionally mayor for a year fair fair and i think that if it weren't for corona virus and like all the shit going on in the world they might have even announced this way sooner because we know that connie and on the show they tried to make. It seem like kim. Like connie's giving me my space like he's gonna with the kids like we know that they've been living separate lives and by the way there are plenty of people who live separate lives from their husbands and living perfectly happy marriages. So i didn't think anything of it. I didn't but i'm also blindly loyal stand but i'm being confronted with the truth now and it's just it's really tough to swallow tough anything you want to say last words on the marriage before i wrap this up. It's tough pill to swallow speaking of another tough pill to swallow. This is kind of like a sad day here. The morning post on this is a page six article according to them alex trebek's in quote enormous pain during final japanese jeopardy tapings. So i don't know if you know but this week is the last bit of episodes. Had prerecorded a ton of jeopardy episode so when he died is still had two more months jeopardy already recorded but ahead of alex. Trebek's final jeopardy episodes airing this week executive producer. Mike richards is opening up about what it was like for the late to film the show just ten days before his death. Richard said on the today show it was herculean. He was an enormous pain. But despite trebek's struggles. Richard said viewers will not sense that in any of episode. He is strong. He sounds great. He is funny and he is amazing. The ep added calling the beloved host. In absolute warrior. Trebek's final five episodes will begin airing monday on. Abc and richard teased a special monologue. During one of the episodes he said in this special unbelievable final week he comes out and gives a talk about the importance of togetherness and sticking together and what the world is struggling. But we have to get through it together and we had chills okay so final five episodes this week and apparently we got a special message from alex back and according to the executive producer. He was in a lot of pain. That's i mean. I can't even talk about my feelings. Phallic shebek without crying. It's amazing that he truly was like married to the show. Like i don't know anybody in the world that films literally up until they die. It's insane like you leave you. Spend your next year's your family our like in florida. It's always florida and it's just like you. You come to terms with things. And i guess the only thing. I wonder if this is going to be very profound. Perhaps the show was literally keeping him alive. Perhaps seriously i feel that because he's been sick for a very long time. Yeah and it did. A cold is he. I think somewhere in his eighties or late seven. No definitely not eighties seventies seventies. I think that for a while. He was doing really well in his treatment and people thought that he might beat it. But stage four pancreatic cancer is like nobody gets to beat that. It's just awful. So i just love him so much and i can't believe i actually haven't watched any episodes this week like i honestly find it too triggering like i love him so much. He's a great guy. I will watch them at some point but just to know that they're still out. There means. i have something to look forward to in terms back. I just watch them. I don't think i'm running all right next up. I'm going to change the the vibe the vibe until berry summer vibe this is weird ass story that actually followed on tiktok and now it's being written up e. news joe joe was see wa is responding to controversial joe's juice board game featuring inappropriate content joe. Joe took to social media to address the inappropriate questions on the children's game. Joe's juice is addressing the criticism over controversial. Nickelodeon board game joe. Joe's juice the seventeen marci seventeen the seventeen year old youtube star. Who has a young fan base took to instagram and tiktok on monday to shed some light on how the children's game ended up with the inappropriate content for the targeted six and up audience. She said over the weekend is brought. It has been brought to my attention by fans and followers on tiktok. Then my name and image have been used to promote this board game that i some really inappropriate content now when companies make these games. They don't run every aspect by me. So i had no idea the types of games that were on these playing cards. Now when i first saw this was really really really upset about how gross questions were. And so i brought it to nickelodeon attention immediately and since they have been working to get this game and since then they've been working to stop getting this game made and also being pulled from all shelves wherever it sold so this happened in such weird ways. Some tiktoker on. I think maybe it was like a mom who bought the game for her kid made a video that went viral being like. Why is joe. Joe wa selling this game where it's like it was just like what are there questions if it wasn't like where'd you give your first blow job but it was like inappropriate for six in up. What what is that. Let me need to find that. It's important to know what some of them. I'm here other questions from the multiplayer game. Where who in this room would you most like today. Have you ever stolen from store. Those were two of the questions. And joe said she never ever ever would have approved or agreed to a game that reportedly include questions about being arrested and nudity. Now the thing is that of course. The questions to us don't seem like such a big deal but ngozi seventeen but her core audience is like hardcore four year olds i. I don't know who is what shoes we wait on. Nickelodeon no we why it does. She know she looks like okay. You know this girl. Maybe i swear wait. How do you live in my house and nano. Who georgia no background. Now okay give me some macaroni. Okay so gioja. Remember the show dance moms. Yes oh yes so. She was on the show but like not are not popular by any means necessary. And you know the girls from that show like a lot of them. Became big instagram irs. Some dancers gioja was like a relevant on the show honestly and she took like the modicum of fema chapman. She started a youtube channel and she became this kid. Sin sation like the wiggles like everything she does. Is kid kid kid kit on. It hurt she. She's like a singer and she makes these songs that kids love and she goes on towards she does arenas and a lot of the tourist sponsored by nickelodeon. I know she partners with nickelodeon a lot. I don't think she has her own tv show on accordion. But she's like literally like hannah montana but she skews much much younger and what's so impressive about her. Why obsessed with her is that she has an a billion dollar licensing company because her name image worth much. She has these lines of lunchboxes hair. Ties like anything you can imagine merch. Backpacks kids comforters. Like everything at walmart and it's not her company it's a licensing thing so they use your name and image her her products globally have generated over a billion dollars. She's not herself a billionaire. Because it's the licensing thing but that's how a game like this gets me like they licensed her name and then put like inappropriate in the box. I understand so. I just let you should meet some background okay. That's that is good background. So she is an icon to the young child to very young like you know. Was you know he did a youtube video with who's at szeswith. Her northwest very went over to her young. Very young. okay. So when you enter into a relationship with a network com a nickelodeon. Let's say you have to assume that the way that nickelodeon speaks to kids is going to be the way that nickelodeon speaks to the kids in your board game. She's ever watched one episode of anything on nickelodeon. She knows that so. Many of the jokes are made for the parents watching with their kids. They're inappropriate but it's the same thing on disney channel. It's always it's just because the kids are not watching by themselves and the parents slowly get hooked. There's a reason why into the ages of like my like my dad would like watch hannah. Montana occasionally laugh. We'd watch it back now. This is a man of tastes and hannah. Montana's an amazing show. What him saying. She didn't partner with mattel mattel. What's a really young kids. Something the bahrain. Not even barbie like plato. Or i totally disagree with you. I think her partnering with nickelodeon. She can assume that what's going out with her name on. It is going to be kid. Friendly mon- tested mother. No what is it kid. Tested mother approved reach ninety. Nine percent of the questions are tested. Mother approved and one of them is talking about arrests. That's like that's like a shock factor. Definitely like an overreaction but a queen for getting out in front of it and just like taking responsibility like she's a fucking queen getting product off the shelves. It sucks. I'll probably also a lot of money and this is embarrassing for them. They have an image issue. And don't make me say why because one just everyone knows what ben. What did you say i said. Don't say the way not trying to get a lawsuit spoken about sh- seriously sh sh sh silence. Okay i'm not just shut up. I don't take anything seriously. Use your next up on. It has been a very very good. Sorry no good. Very bad. Week for dr dre. He says he's doing great after being hospitalized. And we'll be back home soon so he shared on instagram. After the news was reported that he was suffering from a brain aneurysm which is like a crazy thing and then to make matters worse. Page six is now reporting. His home was the target of a burglary. While he was hospitalized for the aneurysm. Probably fucking wife. Why why are you. Don't know the drama nella. He's in the middle of a horrific divorce. Okay and if you follow the shade room you'd know that she's like trying to take him for everything that he has. When i was married to dr dre i would literally be doing the same thing and you know. I actually did see something yesterday. Because his wife was spilling his airing dirty laundry saying he has over two hundred and sixty million dollars in cash. So it's crazy. So well he's the richest man. Ever because of beets and because of his music but apparently his wife's music beats by no music is separate from. His music is totally totally. Just tell you the details of the robbery. We could see if maybe it was the wife dr trays. La home was the target of a burglary ring while the music mogul was hospitalized. After suffering. a brain aneurysm. Police said nothing was taken when the suspects and failed to break into his brentwood had around ten pm. Tuesday during a surveillance operation in the swanky neighborhood police spotted. Suv thought to be involved in the ring and apprehended four suspects. Police didn't immediately return paychecks as requests for comment though fifty five year. Old dray hasn't commented on the attempt to burghley did speak out on his health. Thinks my family friends and fans for their interest. In well wishes i will be out of the hospital and back home soon shadow to all the great medical professionals at cedars one love drake hospitalization comes amid bitter divorce battle with the strange wife nicole. Young on god who is seeking two million dollars per month in spousal support. She's from what i'm reading again. I don't know them. I don't know anything. But from what i'm reading. She's caused a lot of stress in this divorce. He's been incredibly stressed. And the causes of the brain. Aneurysm is you are not blaming. The way for his brain aneurysm. And the robbery. I'm not blaming her for the robbery. But i am blaming. Her for the aneurysm Him a low as a job. But like i guess if you do have two hundred and sixteen million dollars a month like no. You couldn't bear if you have two hundred and sixty million dollars period like you could spare to a month to month as broken ten years e still making money. That's the thing. He's living off of the wealth. I don't i don't think that he's making for the rest of his life. Fifty million dollars a year. I think he's making a lot of money off of his his music and apple stock. Okay two million dollars a month. It's just it's a lot it's insane can we were saying kelly clarkson's husband was requesting spousal support. I think it was a million dollars a month. Saying because kelly clarkson is not nearly as riches to no. Dr drew's legend and like to be honest. I admire his wife's tenacity. Like if i was going to divorce from one of the richest men alive. Like i would do everything that i could get the most i don i kind of feel her interesting too. Good thing. we're still married. this is true. I'm finally. I wanted to give a little a little business news. Something i think you might be interested in because it's fast food piece of information from cnn. Business what are you implying that you love fast food. Do you fast food more than me okay. Did i say that. I didn't love fast food. The mickey d queen. Kfc is going to start selling good brand. They're going to start selling plant based fried chicken. Oh that's see. I would like this story only in a few cities though. They're launching a plant based version of their fried chicken in about fifty locations. La orange county and san diego next week. The chain is already served the fake chicken version of its products which is made by beyond me. Kfc's i tested beyond fried chicken in atlanta for one day last summer and then it served the product for a limited time in nashville and charlotte. This past winter. The current version will be available in california while supplies last. Kfc plans to monitor the results of this test to determine whether to make beyond fried chicken available nationally. I'm gonna like we talk about. He on here on the plant based options being put in mcdonalds and burger king. And we're always for it but this seems kind of nasty. I have a couple of questions. Because i love. Kfc love love love. But honestly i don't fuck with their chicken like i fuck with their sides. Their chicken is kind of not good. Sorry said it. But their mac and cheese on the other hand is like literally i imagine. Heaven is like seriously just like a big lake filled with kfc mac and cheese and boston market mac and cheese which very similar. I have a couple of questions here. Question number one. I love beyond meets in general. I think that they taste really good. I think so too And for somebody that tries to limit their red meat consumption. i think it's a really good replacement. When are we going to find out that it like leads to you growing like a third arm one hundred percent. Nothing can taste that much like me not be me and not be horrific for you especially. This is like the trial run. It's like oh before splendid came out and we realized that it was fine like sweden low and there was something sweet and low about all those different sugars. they like give you cancer. Not the only thing so g ones apparently were much worse. I'm so brian errors. What i'm saying is the worst thing. There's some trial and error. Yes but if if impossible and beyond meat claim to be plant based on like how bad could they be bad. I don't know what else i don't know. I don't know what plant based okay at the bottom. You put a fucking plant. Like i don't know a leaf a leaf exactly and then you throw columbus duty on the leaf. It's still plant based listen rate question to be honest though like i do agree with you like there's something to good about like when we were just away. Jackie made a home chef. She gets impossible. Meet home jeff. She these cases that were faked beef. And oh my god it was so fucking good and that's not the shit i e i don't like that but you're right it tastes too good to be like not giving you a third on a third limb or something. Yeah hundred percent. He's too good and then my second thing we're animal lovers we are like i do. The toasters know quite how much you love animals. They'll have you ever told them. I haven't told them. They are like beyond animal lovers while beyond. We're like care so much for the environment and like always were just always thinking that stuff like this and of course like beyond meets all of that. It's to eventually eliminate us. Eating cow would be the goal. I think then what happens to the cows. There's an overpopulation of cows. I'm just curious. How have the super ecosystem eventually works. But we'll figure it out it's interesting right. Yeah we'll need to adopt a cow like do you think everybody all of a sudden you just need to like have cows animals out there. I don't think so interesting. Those stories and i feel as though you need to show them. Thank you for your analysis on the beyond me. Third arm cow. I really appreciate. And i think that's what we have here at the morning chose especially when you come into the chance know. No bounds tangent. We're all gonna have cows as pets. You should start. A podcast. Called tangents with ben like honestly. That's such a good name like because that's what you do like you've just gone crazy. Tangent tangent news network. That's okay so we're going to dive into. I want to do a little. Tv recap just quickly. Talk about some shows that i watch yesterday but before i do the we kept segment is brought to you by the one and only liquid. Iv you probably you probably know what for popular hydration drink. Mix their energy. Multiplier is an absolute game changer. And gives you that little extra boost that we all need if you have trouble drinking water but like absolutely need to stay hydrated because you get like headaches throughout the day because you're never drinking water liquid. Id takes your water and multiplies it for you way more hydration vitamins nutrients and it's just a great way to manage your time and your water consumption. One stick of their energy. 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So you know that your purchase is going into the right hands because you're helping a great cause. Liquidity is available. Nationwide at costco. Or you can get twenty five percent off when you go to liquid. Id dot com behalf to use the promo code toast at checkout. That's twenty five percent off water when you use the promo code. Toast at liquid dot com. Start fuelling your adventures today at liquid. Ib dot com promo code toast tv. Recap i don't i'm not going to spoil bridgeton for you because i know you like claiming that you're gonna watch it even though i know you're not but it was just so good. I while show aesthetically stunning. It was eighteen hundreds london. I know that's not what it looked like. But the colors in the homes and the dresses. It was just stunning like an absolutely gorgeous. Show that tree that they show at the beginning of every episode. It's just sickening. I want to live in that fucking train. The cast was amazing. I love that. I didn't really know anyone. The woman who played the queen was everything of the sword and the woman. Who played daphne. Richardson is fear. And i need to know how she's related to cure nightly because it was so crazy. The show was head a little bit of everything. A little bit of softcore porn a little bit of drama a little bit of gossip girl a little. Bit of game of thrones like it was really a melting pot of of interesting things. And i just thought it was very different from anything i've watched year and i do feel like it lagged in the middle and i was almost like this is the show. That's so hyped up but the last two episodes where everything of the short when lady whistled down was revealed. I was sure to the mother bugging. Closure here's ben. When daphne and simon finally worked it out i was like buck. Yes you go you get that dick. You make that baby unhappy for you. Because honestly like she had this miserable life with nigel and then she finally ends up coincidentally married to a man that she fucking loves which in that time period was be rare and it was so happy for her also. I'd love the bridge between family. They were honestly reminded me of the schemes very steamy. I loved their mom. She was like a good smart woman who liked was trying her best without her husband. And i just love that. There were so many of them they were just so connected and everyone in town was like gas. The bridge pretends like best family. Like i just. I love the bertans. I wanted to be one of them now. I did feel really bad for the finkelstein. What was jewish financial burke. Years her you can take your fingers out of your ears to find bridge. You're in the name of that family. The fink fincher tin ventured name. That doesn't sound like an no bridge. Your tin family with an f. It's annoying god. Penelope was the queen. Hold on hold on roles a feathering fake. You we okay. So feathering tins like honestly and they were supposed to be annoying like they were giving me like cinderella vibes like with jennifer coolidge and like all the stepsisters but i actually like fell for them and the mom would they did to miss thompson wasn't right but i don't know i felt bad for them. When they were like banished from society like they got cancelled in the eighteen. Hundreds and like i can relate to that it just amazing show and if you ever wanted i really recommend it and then the other thing you don't have to pull your ears for this was the real housewives of dallas premiered like last night but it also premiered on new year's eve which i thought was so weird because they stop people tweeting about it on new year's eve at eleven o'clock and i'm like why people tweeting my real housewives dallas. Why would they put the premiere on new year's eve then the premier it again this week so i didn't have to watch but i thought it was excellent like first of all. I think the show without leeann has such a rash and light attitude and i just think it's so great and the new housewife. Is everything sort. She's so rich. And now i feel like maybe just maybe dallas might be the wealthiest not to be mean but ever since they dropped leeann. I think they might be tied with like beverly hills for the wealthiest franchise like everyone's houses. First of all tiffany's house is so fucking seconding cameron's new houses so sickening stephanie. Thousand it's so sickening. It a great show. I think it's going to be a great season. Carry britingham was like kind of mia from this episode. But i'm just very much looking forward to it. All it's a fabulous show. Sorry ben. i know you're getting bored. Let's into your toasters not looking board. That was those. I'd leeann is the one who left. Yeah that's like the crazy motherfucker. Yes she was not holy shit. Holy shit she was just so nuts. Remember watching a bunch of episodes of diarrhea coming out of this woman's mouth. I didn't hurt defense. Like she really put the show on her back for a while and like. I don't know if there would have been any or as much drama. She wasn't there so now it's our first season without her. I think it'll just be like a real testament to whether or not like she was as important to the storyline as i think she might have been. The they'll find something else like these next up. This is your toasters our advice about segment. If you ever want to write in your toasters dot com we would really appreciate the support. Hello mike weinstein's while she was talking to me and jackie. But i'm ready to murder my boyfriend. We've been together for three years. We live in a tiny apartment. We both work from home and both have anxiety during cova. Due to this time we've spent a lot of time apart in the last nine months the longtime apart when he goes to golf for every few weeks sorry the longtime apart being when he goes to golf or every few weeks. When i go to my office. My office is closed. Them only allowed into mail things. Because i'm born this. This is like the most poorly written thing the longtime apart being when he goes to golf or every few weeks. When i go into my office my office is closed. I'm allowed into mail things. Because i work in boring. Hr golf season has ended and we are just home constantly. I tried to go out and do things. But it's annoying being the one that's constantly leaving. He'll go for a thirty minute. Walk some days but others asked me to go with him. Our apartment small. We only have one. Tv as i'm typing this i can hear him washing his hands in the bathroom. How do i not kill him. How do i make it fun to be home. Please help me. I'm about to go to jail. I think jackie or maybe dana said this once before. But it's either you get engaged or you break up at one point in in a relationship and we're out that mile marker so please help us survive kobe. I really do love him. I wanna get engaged. Love esteem that needs a longtime can't wait for january twenty six to read growth and job of instrumental thurs monster. This is tough honestly like not to be a bitch blake. We relate because we've been having so much fun in quarantine like so in love. Yeah i i do have my opinions there. do we know wearer. She is from where she is living so not to be. You read the exact same submission that i did like how i know that. Oh it doesn't say like a friend from new york okay. my first thought would be. You're working from home it's again. I'm not gonna assume where you live but if possible if at all maybe right now. You're in like a slightly nicer building. You need a little more space clearly so if at all possible i would move. Yeah it whether that is to a slightly worse area again. It's tough not knowing where you live. If you live in new york city though you should probably just move to long island city or murray hill did move somewhere else in an area that has tons of new apartments. That are much bigger for cheaper. Because it's like a lesser area. I need more space. The second is if you can't get more space you need a second. tv having one. Tv is not realistic. The reason why. I mean you have had such a lovely quarantine is because for a couple of hours a day. The reason why you were able to watch bridgeton and i was in full. And i never watched. It is because you watched in the bedroom. Yeah and i watched the nba last night in living in the living room hundred. And i think that like even those bits of separation with in your own home or incredibly important. And i think cultivating a vibe and experience in your own home so important. Me and jackie talk about this. All the time in in lockdown in quarantine like your home can become a prison one hundred percent. And unless you're like refreshing your space like every time you get out of bed making the bed lighting candles mood lighting. If you're putting no effort into your space it can really become toxic place very very quickly so i suggest like whenever i lay on the couch after i get up. I always full blanket refreshed. Pillows put the remotes like and orderly blow out candles. And then. I cultivate a new vibe. When i start fresh in a few hours you know what i mean. The refreshing your space is really important. Yup opening a window also have you tried getting violently drunk. Yeah that's good because you could say something you don't mean because the no it's not that it's the one time that when we were in like real hardcore quarantine like no stores were open like the city was a fucking ghost. Yeah and we got really really really drunk on my birthday zoom. I woke up. There's a feeling that you forget of waking up so disgustingly hung over that you don't wanna leave your bed. You just want to order a nice bagel with tuna fish and watch. Tv by the really does reset you. I said that all the time during the hardcore lockdown in the city that being drunk is so so great because the morning. When you're hung over you actually don't mind being hung over because when you're hung over all you wanna do is in bed i in quarantine you have no choice but to lay in bed so not encouraging people to be alcoholics. But i think that would be and i said you. Yeah cloudy and jackie. This aren't excellent. Sorry dear ben. And jack. Benny i shall start with the obligatory. Thank you so much for saving me during quarantine spiel. It has been a true gem to listen to all the episodes new patriot through two thousand twenty. Can we read your book soon to preorder now girls in our job dot com slash book. Let's get to the point. I'm thirty years old. Got married in october. And my husband and i decided it would be kind of us to host christmas dinner at our house for the holidays whenever my mom hosts it's always the shit show because she gets so stressed out so we thought it'd be fun to have Our family take the burden off her. We didn't want to cook so we spent six hundred dollars on getting food catered by alcohol for everyone. The evenings lovely and we had tons of delicious enchiladas and fajitas leftover that we're running. She's from texas fast forward to the next day when we were all going to make lunch and we realized our aunt had taken all of the food from the house. Oh my god. I you not. She packed up the catering container without us noticing and took off like a bandit in the night. Needless to say. I was pissed leftovers of the best part of being meal like thanksgiving or christmas and she stole our food that we paid for. She's a grown ass adult. I thought the dot that behavior was acceptable. I was shuck. My sister wanted me to texture and make snarky comment. But i took the high road because i felt like it would have been so awkward. Would you have done in that situation. Sincerely hostess with the most as this is an abomination. What a stream story. yeah. I honestly like your queen for taking the burden off. Your parents spending six hundred dollars on food and alcohol for everyone and i just honestly like i think this is so disrespectful and honestly she's giving aunts a bad name. I mean at this point. You can't say it's too late in the moment. You could made like like a joke like did you really just take the food now. You know what. I would have done group chat everyone being. Did anyone take leftovers. I can't seem to find any catering totally that's a good. Chad is the best way to be passive aggressive. What a strange story. And is this something you do as the and now i also hate leftovers. Okay first of all. I hate leftovers. I hate taking when people like shove their leftovers on me in their house. I'm like i didn't even like your food. Get away sorry clarifying. I like leftovers in my own house especially like fajitas enchiladas amazing things for the next day. There's some things that like. Don't really sit well like a sushi. Platter like jefferson. Row that in the trash. But i'm never ever ever ever ever leave your house with food that you cooked or flowers from your party or die. Never leave with anything from your house. That says you always delicious. i don't want it. Yes that's literally like like an old jewish woman thing to do is to take the flowers from bar mitzvah and bring them home for your foyer. I clutter conscious like i. Don't even more shit my fridge anymore. Vases please don't ever by house and send me home with with work to do. Yes and also. This is a direct message to olympia. You're cooking delicious. I don't want to take anything home. Olivia's always trying to pawn her leftovers off on us not want them and you know what it is. It's like all the really good stuff gets eaten in full so like the stuff. That's leftover like the decent stuff. I don't want that. Oh i don't want it. I'm really excited. Because our third and final toasters is an update from the toaster. Whose boyfriend found on the toaster with a boyfriend. Who found her onlyfans. The toaster had an account for one day and it was unclear how the boyfriend found out about the girl like thought about doing it. She did for day took it down but then her boyfriend found out. We like couldn't figure out how he figured it out first of all. Thanks for the amazing advice. I've been full spy mode trying to get to the bottom of things to add some context as to why my friends and i jumped to say spyware on my phone is because my best friend has an x. Stealing your sim card out of her phone. He was then putting his phone to read or text messages. He also put a recording device in her car to listen to all of our conversations. Holy shit. I did a little digging and found that an additional face ideas been set up on my phone holy shed. It was a brand new iphone. And i'd only set up my face so i was a little confused. I realized that my boyfriend new my original password on my phone it but eight changed it. When i started the only account. He must have already added his face to face idea my phone so that he was he was able to unlock my phone. Even after the password had been changed. I've been dreading talking to him about it. Because i know wants a conversation about the violation of trust has had the end will be near. We've a whole life together. And i know things will be messy. But i can't continue on setting the precedent that lack of trust in the relationship is okay. Today's conversation and things. Or do i give them a second chance if he tells me the truth and what is wrong with no. This is so crazy like me. I'm sorry i'm sorry pudding pudding a extra face ideas and by the way i'm snoopy s fuck like. I don't even know if you know. I'm going through your phone and computer i wouldn't. That's fucking next level shit. It's interesting that you said that. Because i was about to say the opposite. Can you move your microphone a little bit. Oh yes we're doing a better much better. I don't i just like you have to trust who you're with. It's like i for one reason or another. I noticed the last couple of times asked me grab your phone. Your password has changed since which is fine. But i'm sure left my taxi. I thought my my was too easy. I was going to say. I'm sure it changed for some reason personal to you by newburgh. It's not like it was the same thing with me like mining out longer one day because i was afraid that somebody was hacking me. Yeah it's like not. People are not changing their passwords. Because they're hiding something from you that being said now that i'm thinking of she did change your password because she was hiding something from him. So actually you're you're giving him reasons. I'm sorry i'm backtracking buckton. If you really like this guy you need to not have a secret. Only fans account every day. It doesn't matter you need to not have a secret onlyfans account and change the password on your phone because all you're doing is feeding his insecurities and making him think that what he's doing is valid if you wanna start onlyfans account. I think that's something that you have to agree with your significant other It's a really great way to make money. And maybe he won't have a problem with it. You don't have to get naked on onlyfans like only people using only vans like one hundred same thing. So maybe she's just trying to create a side hustle make some extra money and transparent parent about stuff like that. Yeah no i think the only was created. I sexy picks interesting also. I just want to clarify. Like i just really only snoopy. Christoph want to know what you're talking about like i'm not. I don't think you're doing anything just like like who's been talking to. When he's not talking to me. I i just wanna put that out there. Now it's literally like your mom. No one queen you guys do your toasters thank you so much for writing in your toasters at gmail.com is the email. If you ever wanna write in you can write it in about anything. You can update us if we've ever read your submission on air. I'm always keep it anonymous ben and has been an absolute pleasure having you here for the last two days. I hope you've enjoyed your time. And now i'm gonna give you a few minutes to plug whatever you want to plug where people follow you. If you're not following me at boy with no job at this point. I don't really know what you're doing. You can follow me at boy with no job. There really is nothing else applaud. 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A Chat with BTS , The New Ghost and Creepy Things Girls Do

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show

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A Chat with BTS , The New Ghost and Creepy Things Girls Do

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Gandhi high froggy morning pillow they're scary hey there's producers Sam hi producers learning this and look even straighten it looks like he's in a good yeah I'm trying to resolve of let's get rolling around the room and we'll start with you Gandhi what's on your mind today well somebody else and just can't see the person it's we play we play a game walking around our neighborhood in New York City we call it Bluetooth or no bluetooth talking to someone my door with loads of Taco bell yesterday he was like overeats delivers all these like fast food places and the old me would have said uh listen everybody laughing all those things kind of make me a big hug things get your mind off your daily stress I don't want your everyday occurrence in New York City thought but my friend was like we gotta get Outta here let's go we gotta get Outta here I didn't even get my coffee so now I'm mad at her but I'm proud of myself was always because we don't have a big budget you know what I'm saying when are they calling in in about forty five minutes aren't forty-five minutes we'll have a short in very inexpensive call with bt 's but we're excited here this guy this weekend I just I need a weekend what about you guys hell yes so excited for the weekend what are you doing what are you doing this weekend Ghandi's boyfriend got here last night have to guess yes they are talking to someone no they're not talking to anyone hey what's up with you today scary so somebody showed the chili peppers but it sounds good anyway welcome to the weekend so excited it's finally Friday I don't care if if it shoots fire for it closed door starved the rest of the night wait a minute I can't believe you would even think for a moment you were going to accept someone else's food delivery Domino's superglue thing before have you guys heard of that before I've heard I've heard of ways to get an infection really held a closed until the Glue Dry oh closed so it needs a stench but I'm pretty sure the superglue is GonNa hold we're all good sometimes self surgery does work without a doubt without a doubt now I've heard the weekend Hillary I so pumped to be talking to you guys and super excited to be going over trip it's boyfriends birthday houses here we'll go to froggy what's up with you wrong well yesterday afternoon I was working on something in the garage and I accidentally cut my hand right between where my thumb and forefinger you will tell everyone where you're going with your boyfriend for the weekend this is the best part oh Jeez there sounds like it was about to be profit company called Flex Valor and they make flags for veterans and they're operated and he's guys I don't know something to wake me up scary what do you have school children this is old school this is like the old schools old a party pooper yeah come on go to medical school here right what is difficult it's a liquid banded gaffe like that it's a turncoat from Zelda's durant in the morning show I love that it'd be is its head body running around screaming things you know what and don't think that they're screaming into the air they actually do have imaginary friends and there are more real than you know that's a nice status he's not even talking to us really good it is I know where she's going Hillary can you hear me Oh damn it to hell where are they gonna go they're going to Disney things are not known when it comes to food delivery it's not finders keepers losers we I'm sorry what's up with you today who took anyway I'm glad you've thought that through he was gonNA talk to our first caller of the day it's Hillary Hey Hilary I was the one who saw your techs come through how excited are you about I love him I hope you guys have the best weekend at Disney ever since you and Elvis Duran morning show shirt since you are the official first caller of the day that's so awesome because these are awesome and others around you are the van your shows keep it up just these guys are we know that your next stop is Orlando going to Disneyworld how fun would that be let's get into your horoscopes with producers Sam and by the way awesome thank you for listening our Daniel is out again today taking care of some very important family business and we are hoping she'll be rejoining us on Monday miss you very much Danielle all right so who you I thought you're already in the it's a small world ride or something I can't hear you so you're on your way to Disney with your boyfriend but even better news than that tell everyone how special your they you celebrate with Zach Ephron Neo and tyler Posey capricorn powerful feeling of love is surrounding you take time to appreciate your loved ones and let them know how much brace this new opportunity your days ten Taurus goals are not always meant to be met sometimes trying is all that matters so be proud of yourself or how far you've come your days in eight they mean to you your day is an Aquarius it's time to change your life patterns switch up your routine or try something new to ensure you don't get bored todays nine high-seas ourselves in the area where you can't put a band aid so I had my son hold it together and I put super glue on it and it's forrest gump swept since Danielle's not here it must be Gandhi Oh let me guess Gandhi such a secret okay here we are celebrating today happy for serving our country and Hillary thank you for listening to us we appreciate it very much have fun at Disney now hold on and safe travels wouldn't you a few years ago remember I was drunk and then all of a sudden domino's just showed up late at my poor can't do that that's awful shame shame on you food price I mean Gemini you're craving afresh atmosphere for socializing get to know new people around you and develop new relationships your days seven cancer you are not responsible for other peoples happiness have some strange encounters today take this as an opportunity to see the world through a different Lens nor days seven areas a major shakeup is headed your way run right out into the open and today Wayne Lapierre Senorita career yes senior okay well welcome today we've got lots to do you can only support them so be a good friend and keep yourself emotionally healthy and content your days nine Leo your life might seem a bit chaotic lately be open to doing things differently and you can regain your power in this area you're eight virgo your energy has brought good fortune recently so keep your positive attitude and more successful follow your day is a ten Lee use get organized and everything will fall into place your day is an eight ten Sagittarius don't let people's mistake mistake your kindness for weakness make sure your generous but yeah your imagination is flowing freely channel into creative work or other interest to add some possess days nine Scorpio big decision has he can it is my print is very special fifteen years in the air force and has said works for a non appropriate times your day is seven and those are your Friday morning horoscopes excellent three things we need to know this morning Gandhi do you want to add the fourth one the fourth one thousand teachers and aides are walking picket lines and three hundred sixty thousand students won't be going to school until this strike end so what happens I mean they're saying that these teachers deserve more money traffic in south Florida is so brace yourselves for that one Chicago Public School classrooms are GonNa be closed again today it's Day two of the Teachers Union Strike Thirty says that narrowed down twelve locations to four finalists and finally decided that his was perfect for their needs which means leaders from the seven largest economies will meet their next June and we already know how crazy you guys ruined it for us we're GONNA ruin the living hell out of it you're you're not even recognized as a shirt when it arrives it's going to be a tattered whatever you tell your boyfriend we said thank you stupid up and die so he sounds dream I love it so not a veteran but now he's working to better the lives of veterans and people who are serving our country we're just moments away from getting a phone call from bt 's under the BCS army is up early now look you know they're calling in calling long distance and that's expensive so called a new whatever right you don't have the money so they're saying go find the money I have a solution for what is your solution okay so I think that if every student NASA because there are thirty eight active astronauts only twelve of them are women and it's going to happen at seven fifty a m eastern time I love it let's keep an eye on that I'm really excited thank you I slept through a hurricane hurricane slipped an earthquake last night oh can you tell us about it or is out because I was asleep I love waking up hearing the yeah holy crap hi welcome to the weekend I'm so excited I feel like something really going to happen this weekend I don't know what I feel something fun six flavors to choose from don't be afraid upgrade to Oh my God holy Crap Hey Christina Koch an ESA are gonNA replace malfunctioning battery components it was supposed to happen in spring there were some complications but it is going to happen today this is a huge milestone when they went to school had to sign a little pledge that one percent of whatever you make is going to go to like your favorite teacher teachers would improve teachers get more money and we can all sacrifice like off her son right look teachers deserve money I hope they figure this out I hope so too what's your third thing neither thing the first all female space walk is scheduled for this morning today yeah they do like every teacher has more money I don't care how much money they already make they say they don't have the money so what do you do I mean you know how economics work you look in your bank account you can't afford to buy and edgy we're on the edge of sliding down a long slippery slide into a big lake filled with fun that's what I'm there's only one hot sauce that was able to convert me for my usual arsenal chill Lula they're newest flavors we have a narrow packed such punch that actually made me smile I loved it was the show people leave the show all the time oh here's the next one no that's not how this works Daniels not going anywhere She is taking care of in bunk beds last night he did and he's been like weirdly giddy about it all I know we were talking about sleeping in bunk beds yesterday and he came back today and said yeah he did indeed sleep with a friend in in bunk beds last night so I'd like to get to the bottom of that let's see what else do I have on my list I got all sorts of yeah that's got the right address but the new me is like you know what somebody's GonNa go starving right now someone's having a party somewhere my building so I said no I'm sorry you've got the wrong apartment stuff Gandhi said something creepy yesterday and it really reminded me that not only guys can be creepy but women can be creepy too I got called creepy allot yesterday yeah okay be prepared for whatever comes your way in the all new gt four door coupe because life is a race visit your local dealership for a test drive today Duran and the morning show we have a short phone call with bt s on the way I say short because I they're very busy I think they're in the studio doing some work and they said we could for some families staff and we will tell you when she returns what it was all about but until then that's up to them it's their thing right right also thinking about you don't know about you but when I'm doing hey a people are texting asking about Daniel she is out on some family business and no she's not lead along I'm just saying it may be short so there I got that out of the way what else well a question to straighten it out well I heard rumor he slept in a bunk bed in twenty years hopper bottom oh I chose the bottom of course you did nothing sexual about that yeah I had to leave earlier so I didn't want to climb down on my friend so anyone said that just now fuse you know they call me uncle Elvis I feel pretty good about that but a good uncle knows when it's time for the nephews to go back to the studio so anyway short phone call with bt s on the way it may be they also I got this text here it says unpopular opinion I do Salk Shoe Salk Shoe Gandhi you guys ready for Friday I come on this ever Friday more from the proceeds bands interview Lounge Nile Horan just good to be back because I love you know these are the things in life you could you could debate until the cows come home as they say I mean do you cut your sandwich vertically or you know what I'm saying I mean who cares perseus there she's there she's going where are you driving in a cave where are you we're in the backwoods West Virginia you don't is tied how you get there is up to you get creative have fun do something different exactly I get a lot of crap 'cause I bite my string cheese I don't even care because it tastes better that way I'll bite it believe me we have all day we don't work you know what I'm saying you call this work we could talk to be for four or five hours I would love to talk to my nephew and shoes on like the rest of the world you gotta be different who does that what they do I've been a lot of people I've done it before but if there's an emergency you have to hop out of the okay what are the other three things well. The trump administration is reportedly going to host next year's G Seven summit at the President Trump's devours in Miami it was chosen during a selection. Yeah you you said something really creepy yesterday we'll get into that in a few minutes I'm just kind of laying it all out there he is there's bunk bed boy hi good morning it was so great sleeping in a bunk bed I haven't wraparound loop through as an adult who cares nuts don't let it go I have I have a list of things I want you to get nuts over and I wanna live in your universe thank you okay I think it's a better universe if we just let people do what they WanNa do live and let live yes do it us there's no emergency you know the what ifs are Schmultz you know what I'm saying it should be socks shoo shoo what if this person does sock pant leg shoe I mean you slept the quake was Oh my God how was it i I slept through did he moved around now okay good I was asleep the people people looking for things to get mad bodily don't do what I suggested shoe and then sock is a weird way to do it again putting your shoe on and then your sock over your shoe that's Weird Che's because I do too bunny ears and you turn them around and you twist them that is something that only kids do we supposed to learn the one bunny ears seriously what is it with people these people set in their ways exactly Gandhi mix it up yes scary don't get me started on the way you tie your shoelace sick of watching other people sit in this seat sniff that smells of many people smelly Lewis capacity brought to you by Mercedes am mother and to protect other patients and make families comfortable in the hospital this seven year old goes around and hands out Venus fly traps to other people who are there he just I suggest you do it frees you up to enjoy life into not not worrying about things that are negative you're so negative about your because he's accepting donations he is adorable and Jamie Briggs thank you so much for this story and if you have someone that deserves to be featured email me salmon Elvis Duran dot com subject line field more focus called string cheese care I'm going to open my mind allow a universe where you can just trump the hell out of the string cheese tube and not string it down okay what about Gandhi does it that way she's so weird if I could I would but like a bra is one thing stocks are two things I should have an option to put all their stocks we're one sock and not the other one they're a pair in the morning show Elvis Duran and the morning show and I must wish very very very special good morning to the and now they're back in the studio and when they get back into the studio they they hit the road running I mean there's no time for frivolity go look that word up I love the word frivolity sation with bts talking about the new song and I got to tell you what we did is an you've got to keep him my beats yes they're very busy into the I know they were out they were taking some time off BTS Army I can feel you listening I know that we have a lot more people listening today because we're about to Play our today he visited her in the hospital he noticed a fly buzzing around annoying her and it made him really upset so he bought her a flytrap and now in honor of his things are not on that list no it's it all we know is we want the end result you want both socks both shoes on you want shoelace who cares if they WANNA put one sock once you then one sock when she won why does it make you mad that's the discussion and if I mean if they want to do it wrong they can about your shoe suck suck shooting right like how stressful would you be if you walk down the street and everything that people did that was not like the way you did it stress you out man I'd have a heart attack I get real mad when William puts his shirt on before anything on the bottom I call it the poo bear and it makes me uncomfortable because her all uncomfortable look producer Sam has your field good for today yes it does work amazing thank goodness okay because seven-year-old Sebastian Leopold unfortunately September lost his grandmother to a battle with cancer but forever okay well now that stupid that's where you draw the line I draw the line of eating the big tube of cheese no you gotTA string that baby bite talk to bts my nephews are coming up right after this this conversation really GonNa keep the listeners thrilled and so what we did is in order to make sure we fit into the schedule and they could fit into ours we decided to record interview with them having a few minutes to talk about the new song you know what I'm saying but I don't want anyone to get mad at us if they have to hang up and go back to work that's they you want them to go back to work uh-huh obviously we have wasn't it yeah we have cranky pants over there in the corner want you make him feel good what are you have so has anyone here had a venus fly trap because I have not oh I'm like oh that's great but it made Brody mad like why are you mad at someone who does Salk Shusaku weird because it seems like you have one role in life and that's the put your socks on sixes mom to take him and gives it with a little note that says it's an honor of his grandmother so sweet so I'm glad they work on me because I really had no idea that's awesome tweeted out the Lincoln case you want to help him out talk to anyone but it's bts anyway so it was so important for us to at least get a moment with because I know they're going to roll through town eventually we'll get them live again interface something you won't hear when we play this back is you won't hear when two of them called me uncle Elvis is that what that felt so good I mean play play our new favorite song here we go let's play back please welcome cliven the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge risk losing an opportunity to talk to our boys you know what I'm saying because every time we get them on the phone I feel I feel happy and positive mm-hmm and play it back today because this is the day they wanted wanted us to play back and the reason we did that is because of scheduling because it was either that or hey I got a phone call with him coming up is that is that true yeah okay can keep in mind there in the studio so I don't want to keep him out of the studio we gotta let them work but I what is wrong with just being creative and changing it up every once in a while women start putting on one Brock Cup and one sleeve and the other brought up by this leader excited about your new song make it right that was really dumb question I ask because I know you love it so bt s thank you Sam oh by the way they're supposed to commercial here I don't have any commercials that you guys are asking me to do so I'm off the hook this is skip that commercial and there you go whoa right I mean nate who was it they all chimed in and called you uncle Elvis when I was on the handset with them which I think was pretty much an honor to be able to talk to them featuring our friend Lau who was on our show the other day and you actually wrote this with Ed Sheeran Open you guys would take a break will be great and I think they're management did promise that what happened and I made them promise I said look better promise and they're like okay don't hurt me because I know how important it is for army to hear bts so anyway this was recorded the other day in Danielle was with us of course she off today but you'll hear Danielle on here and what you won't hear them screaming they got there they go you guys are always so much fun we always smile so big when we hear from you listen we've got to talk about your new song and in even though we can't always speak the same language all of us we speak this language of happiness I mean they they they're just fine there's this great I love it right now in oliver favorite fit so chime with free shipping and returns right now new next level air flakes genes for men from American Eagle Comfort style your move orange good morning to be t s a real excited about it so where are you today where where where are we talking to you today we're we're on our studio somebody's record like long vacation like since our debut and you know we we have vacations and then we're working now though it's it's over race over even working so hard but you're still working this is crazy what a year you've had we have vacation actually it was our borders how you I mean it's great all but to be able to talk to them was pretty cool but we rescheduled to call three times and you even stayed late we always talk to them I never stay lean somebody's writing songs Blah Blah Blah. Poppy well sounds like a fun day how hey elvis which I think it's it's a travesty we get that okay so let's our conversation with bt 's and we does it I would do that I would do I would do that just to Piss you off at least tell how listen to you bitch and Moan like an old man seriously you you really are nuts I mean uh-huh back took your vacation you guys were out at all these incredible events like the Rose Bowl soldier field metlife stadium's in the US army was out out backing you up your US army the most powerful army in the world what was your favorite thing about touring here in the US not s make it right featuring Lau excellent come see assumed guys wow allow and ed sheeran fantastic and congratulations I just WanNa play the song may I play it of course we're going to spin it so it's she's hits your tongue I otherwise in so you taste that I I get it I love it I saw another Texas said they pour the milk in the bowl and then the series uh-huh also we're talking about people who get angry when people don't do things the way they do them for instance we had texture saying they put their shoes and socks on I'm actually he wanted to come to our Wembley show and he actually did come like are especially vocal members like text insane they like to eat their pizza slice upside down Oh why not why can't you do that why can't you do that falloff no it may not Bingo and we we could do some sightseeing as well you guys working with Ed Sheeran on make it right what's it like working with for and she doing a great job only while Daniels out just coming by the way coming up we do have to get into the list of things that women girls do that are creepy I'm three hundred thousand dollars scale was amazing and the stadium was like so big and you know it was like a one they said they're busy in the studio done love being able to play that song now we've got stuff to get into as you know Danielle is out today but Gandhi Gandhi is trying to take over right and he wrote the book and of course we want work with and so that's how the collaboration started you know so happy to you know could have this would it exactly I was testing you and you pass thank goodness it's so good to hear from our friends and they will be coming to join us live as soon as we can get him in here but they him actually very argue report real all the boys of ad and she contacted us and said like that it was just a beautiful ceremony Wendy was beautiful she was so happy she was taken aback she gave a very very very very touching speech from the heart maybe toppings for a reason they're not if it clings that's fine let me tell you something if you eat it upside down stuff doesn't fall off then the sauce and the doc shoe and then socks you in I think it's fine Gandhi thinks it's okay but of course brody's over there so mad he's I would rate the din someone else I'm so on right there the Hollywood walk of fame a New Star arrived yesterday we unveiled Wendy Williams connotes inch of course she looked over and her son Kevin was there and she choked up she talked about how she's been going through such a rough year and but she feels like she's coming out of the and she has so much to be grateful for and of course being surrounded by all your friends and people who love you like we were loving on Wendy yesterday it was truly a great day for her I was so happy for her new star on the Hollywood walk of fame it was great we who's that that was me sorry stop it we had over several thousand people lining up on the sidewalk to watch this imagination a little bit we had a texture say she puts the toothpaste directly on her teeth and then she applies toothbrush brushes aw make it right I liked it. BTS and of course love I love that didn't Ed Sheeran have something to do with that yeah uh well that's perfect collaborations are the best to it's so much fun to work with other artists and you guys you've done it now with two of the biggest so fan of bands of things and you know we're so we're like fans for each other so that's how it happened you know let's like let's work and love it's weird all right let's get into The Daniel Report guest hosted by Gandhi. What's going on I ask you about how the Star ceremony went yesterday with Wendy Williams okay blasphemous guys hey hey grumpy old men over the past the way they want to let them do it also went okay here's one let me let me stretch it's all right now thank you I'm sure on on that song you're also working with our boy loud how did you guys connect with him apparently there's this luxury experience where you can get the full celebrity beauty experience Oregon four hundred thousand dollars it'll get you and a guest flights and airfare out to California can sit with her makeup artist and look just like her and they say fifteen thousand of that four hundred thousand don't worry that's going to charity percentage Jack Dorsey who's the CEO of twitter account and Chloe Grace Maurits as well and if you WANNA look like Kim Kardashian you can but it will cost you four hundred thousand dollars we're the hookers walking down Hollywood boulevard into it Yellow Canary Yellow one of them said hey honey I can see your point attacked her snap chat account was hacked and somebody posted news of her on her own page this company that is a hacking group they're called discord they've taken responsibility for other people as well meaner what do you mean like looking down I see my Weiner start yelling at people just to see their reaction hunting I can see listen especially with audible best selling audio books on parenting money spirituality you name it listen and learn something new start a free thirty day audible trial the rest of it they're gonNA keep and out this weekend malevolent misters of evil? Everyone's really excited about that. Did you say that it was the best movie Frankie Grandes so there's your answer thank you I saw some of the pictures on your instagram account so I just got really nosy and I wanted to know my yellow suit I did I hear a lot of compliments on it from random people on the street night on that flex the series premiere of living with yourself with Paul Rudd and another Docu series called natural selection which looks really interesting it's about gene editing plus of course this weekend Sunday night who gets mad at people who eat pizza upside down ignore him we're ignoring nate okay goodbye take your time and do a great report all right we'll Jennifer Lawrence is getting married anyway it was really weird but to top that I got on board the plane and I walked Pat Pass someone who had it on their lap excellent my but before I poop all right open your mind back to you I don't think that this is going to happen so far none of these things have really bothered me like bothering the other people but I just want to know the specifics of how you get the toothpaste directly on your tooth you could figure it out like direct tamales ceremony and so many people were there they had standing across the street on that sidewalk low right in front of the Hustler Club Nice Yeah and football and there you go thank God he back right after this law you learn a lot guy on that book up and taking into the registering go hey you recognize him do I get a discount on my own book ask schools then no no I didn't say anything no it's embarrassing I'm not going to sell you should've said you don't need to read that story I'll sit down and tell it to you he lives up to our logo our slogan love all serval am I we you know we need to hire some more open minded people right this weekend she's twenty nine years old she's been engaged for less than a year her fiance Cook Maroney this will happen in Newport Rhode Island's people are very excited about that we like it and you know we kind of figured out if you don't listen to our show you probably have no interest in reading this book because you probably don't even know who I am or why existing I get that but his book so please buy it I need Christmas money I need money for Christmas gifts. What's so funny nate I'll be strand in the morning show Oh I was walking through lax the airport here in Los Angeles right and I went into one of those Hudson Bookstores ooh sorry I'm eating cheerios cheese okay we can get back to that later it was awesome I'll swallow cheerios they really have no flavor side of the continent and you see your your ugly face on a book into the store there you have it I know scary that had happened to you you would have instant storied that ones who gets adobe you'll be a chapter next to him Oh nice free did choice and then known okay it's weird it's weird to be in a city on the opposite side he's just tossing it out into the universe Joel rule would like to know or like you to know that he wants to perform Jaylo at the Super Bowl of course he would they worked on you know I'm real ain't it funny even possible how do that people from what a calm doesn't even deserve oxygen forgetting deserve to live am I the only one on the show that all that stuff back in the early two thousands and he thinks it would be a great reprisal of this job would you demi levato sadly her social media I feel like you should just give out your book for Christmas stocking stuffers I wouldn't I had a friend who actually gave he gave out autographed photos of himself to his friends for and your first audiobook is absolutely free visit audible dot com slash Elvis can text us at five one hundred standard data and messaging rates may apply right now the three things you need to know from Gandhi do you want to add my fourth I slept through an earthquake did anyone talk about the Los Angeles earthquake I'm saying this to you now you're listening so it doesn't make sense of this but for people who listen to the show I think it really isn't interesting this is what I'm hearing it's what I've heard the news in a cell mint menthol in tobacco flavors to help people who are trying to quit smoking combustible cigarettes they're going to implement the new policy effective immediately because as we know there have been a lot a friend found a guy walking down the street with a little dog in his backpack and she took a picture of them it was like I need your help help you find this man I think I'm in love I posted it and everyone's like how dare you if that was a girl the people getting deadly vaping related lung diseases and of course we would like to cut down on that we see people walking around all day every day with their air pods and right or just headphones they there there it was my book was sitting right there I'm like Whoa did you just hang out there for a while staring at seeing someone was gonna notice you're like hey look family on it but I'm like come on really what am I going to do it this way anyway coming up we have a phone tap from does the Friday phone Gary Does Okay Gary it out a opposed saying Melissa it was the best movie he's seen in his entire life that is very very intense the best thank you Frankie Life Yeah also well has compiled a list of creepy things that women do you know yesterday we're talking about creepy guy is hey this thing works both ways are dying Gandhi said something yesterday immediately life's goals I would have done a million things I would have done what you said first of all I would have held the book up to my face at Hudson News and then I would have lowered it look you looking at me Oh directly into your ears the ones that go into your ear hole wearing right now how often do you guys clean yours anyone never never well you got a problem or clean them don't be nasty because there are a lot of infections that you can get they say that is blocking your ears natural ability to get rid of build up and it's adding in dirt sweat neither totally creeped me out I think more did something that really creeped allow listeners out but I don't care I stand by it and it's still on my instagram story if anyone wants to go look what was that people be so upset I don't think so I think so I think if it was a girl people would have been someone someone absol I think if I would've taken a picture of this guy in his apartment with this dog that'd be creepy it's a it's a nice phone tap we're all GONNA prove also coming up after the phone we have to talk about this list that Gandhi of people check yourselves against breast cancer by getting the Mammogram as often as early as you can because it can detect a problem before any outward sign and don't forget we are in October October is national guy that came from Elvis Duran and finally today is National Mammography Day President Clinton made it a day in Nineteen ninety-three to remind women dead skin oil hair and wax and your stuffing that all into your head when you're not cleaning it you're going to die you're GonNa die you're GonNa die kindling candling Oh yeah nothing slimmer deal I don't know missed it anyway okay the other things we'll jewel is suspending the sale of fruit flavored e cigarette cartridges they announced their only show of ours in this great country of ours you need a bottle of hot sauce with you wherever you go there are two next to me right now what flavors you have I'm looking at Chili garlic and original was it what was this joke that'd be so upset I would never do that we don't want to give me that when people I mean I get everyone wants to send you the Christmas Card Breast Cancer Awareness Month excellence your thank you so much Gandhi Creepy Gandhi creepy someone just sent a text and said they had a dream about me tattooing a smiley face on learn did you know that Lula they're well-guarded century old recipe is produced in the Central High Plains of Mexico collegue and they said they were totally let it happen Oh you don't want me with an each you don't want you don't want me thinking you you don't you don't need that not going to have he made a song for us so he's like Santa Claus he likes all the president all your and it was eagle it's not about size it's about shape designed with more room through the hips and thighs to give girls with curves the best possible so you can say goodbye to waistband gap look they're just saying clean your ear buds all they're saying there's really nothing else that but they're saying if you haven't been a lot which I know a lot of my friends have them in twenty four hours a day you're going to hey I would not have done that and I therefore did not do that but it's weird the book is still doing well more and more people are saying they re you needed to know that it's uniquely appealing balance a flavor in heat with no sharp chillier vinegar burn it's fabulous you can tell them reading that but I freeman little bit anyway okay so we'll get into that creepy God he's GonNa help us with that coming up in a few minutes I guess we're running we need to get into the three if you're walking down the street you're in a public place you've got a dog in your backpack snuggling your back daft expect someone's going to take a picture of my creepy nervous 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Yeah there's nothing there to eat a TACO cupcake can we make sure we we we've we've exhausted live on the show let's go to line twenty four though before we get into this I just want you to like want to win this because some people do like Hey Sophia how are you lobster Oh so good didn't want anyone else have pasta lasagna count as Paulista good for you the National Food Day on I don't know what to have lunch with the list is national chocolate tipped or chocolate cupcake day yeah national no beard day number from a life lived out loud look I got it right you sort of remember the title of the book sort of I don't know brain cells how do I how do we get to the day with eat well today what else is going on Oh yeah we have the phone tap on the way it's the free book phone tap and this because we didn't have money for a trip to send you on weed you gotta be honest with you when I read that I realized I I used a lot of foul language when I wrote the book and so saying it out loud can do your ears I feel kind of dirty I'm so sorry uh-huh Stephens out of the world to musicians who changed it all listen to bear and a Banjo on the iheartradio wherever you get podcasts we happy all right we're about to get into the free phone tap if you WanNa win a copy of what's it called where do I begin your where do I begin stories I sort of ending the day with my best friend just listening to your life was amazing I absolutely love the audio book the Book and you did great you know how we do we always tell you it's national peanut day or it's national come quote day and and you ended up eating peanuts or conquest that's what we do and yesterday was national ah like made you feel like you were right there especially when you describe the what happens backstage I was like well I'm you know in a day of in the day I know but it's who you are it's it's true to you and just listening to you was amazing because the intonations that you use were great okay anyway someone sent a text and they listen to the audible of the book and they said it was like spending the whole day with me and I'm like Oh God I'm sorry I think they wanted it I think you should I don't know if I read it right I don't I don't I don't know how to do it I've never done it before what did you think you'd wonderful I have to we loved it it was like spending the day with my best hi of this I can't believe I'm speaking you look you know in this time it's not recorded it's totally live so you actually listen to the audio version see that's the one I'm nervous about because it was of course I was like six sold out stadium shows in in in the US it's like we met over like when you mentioned how much you're spending on your shopping free we don't talk about that don't give that away anyway Sophia thank you so much for listening in even know where I am or who I am I what year is it anyway call us now to win your book at one eight hundred two four zero one hundred and I'll write whatever you want me to write in it I hope you have a beautiful beautiful day it was great spending the day with you my day right now also for you to have a good weekend too okay all right thanks well anyway it wasn't national finger but you can't hate your nose I love it anyway he'll so yesterday was National Pasta Day I enjoyed my hope you did too is today yeah well thank you so you you know it is so self serving for me to try to track you down and put you on the Arab because I WANNA sell another book come on it'll be okay let sell out that's the goal and I'm I'm look I'm not too proud to admit daddy needs cash because Christmas is coming on and because of you since I was thirteen and I'm about thirty seven now not related but it was take Anthony Elvis story in the morning show and there you have it an example of a guy on the radio WHO's not ashamed to admit he's using this valuable time to sell his book it's very important to me that you saw this book to because when you mentioned that the money is for Christmas presents I expect to be on the receiving end of that so you know what this book that'll give you incentive what's what's that I just heard your whole conversation I've just been talking you never jumped out of a paint and I heard your conversation being on and on and on Gina usually sits on the sidelines and waits for him to do his thing but Gina said you know what I will skydive with you for the very zeile suggestion Elvis where people should buy a hard copy of the book and the audible to go along with it as a companion so they can listen to you and read the book at the same showing me I really appreciate it or Tony Rarely I haven't even doubt myself and I'm jumping daddy needs the cash anyway so and said they were listening to the audible and they said Elvis taught my son the F. Word while listening to audible in the car the best Christmas ever I think this is great we're like listen to my show you can win a book about me it is so l. me she is going to kill me my God hey I'm just going to go for it all right don't worry don't worry about it sorry about that Oh no who said I could someone that's jumped out before no no no what she's going to like this is like Rodin and field and you guys can be my sales people out in the in the field okay and you can sell more of that you more books and you get a better Christmas present I like yours Whoa you're saying that when I put you on hold I didn't I didn't put you on hold heard every hold on let me just test as a hold on we're not no you're not so now his mom can't blame me I blame Elvis thank you Danny sorry about that all right let's get back to the free book phone tap phone ask so this is your first time yeah yeah it is such a wreck about it so hey hold on one second I'm just getting called over here in the office just be tacky it's the tackiest thing but you would expect nothing less from me I think I'll sign it I'M GONNA sign this book first time so she's a little nervous of course and Damon said you know what perfect time to play a phone tap so I'm GonNa Call Gina from the skydiving place and make sure everything's cool see what happen walk through class we get you fitted for the proper gear get you the right backpacks and yeah sure definitely it's a little bit back really we are super excited to have you this weekend with you and your husband correct yeah pretty awesome great make sure you get here a little bit early and we go through Hi Gary Asia phone tap about all right so Damon wants to play phone tap on his girlfriend Gina Now Damon is an extreme sport guy he loves skydiving mountain climbing eighteen at least Randy Elvis durant phone tap if you want to win the book call now one eight hundred two four two zero one hundred all right now Garett yet here and Garrett stone tablets listen hey gino what's up my name is Bob Pittman I work over at the airdrop location that you got right now this is unacceptable I had good money for this I promise my husband I would do this and I'm not going to trust you I seek your manager immediately pay can we just Allah if you heard me what did I say repeat for I can ask about I don't I need to speak here manager wow okay I'm just kidding I'm just kidding near you go look cost us anything really we just found them in the back so next week do we have trips Elvis turn the music not done with you don't pull me you if you have an idea for a phone tap let us know simply go to Elvis Duran dot com and click on the phone tap link so do we have someone to win the then thanks thanks very much will appreciate it we know you have a choice in radio shows and thanks for choosing hours hold on one second okay all right there you go a whole week of giving away books didn't didn't creepy girl conversation creepy women you know it's always guys being accused of being creepy and I gotta be honest ninety nine percent of the time smell we all right absolutely forty giveaway that is fantastic every morning on my way to work your dissatisfied customers this is good this is good talk to the dumb asses skydiving place the guy that we're supposed to jump with as never even go for what are you thinking are you eibar for a second I'm I'm new here I'm in college I really jobs now do I care no can't get fired I don't care books on the way thank you so much for listening every day I hope you have the best weekend every what are you GonNa do you know I'm actually taking my daughter shopping this weekend for a around here so many do we look to tiffany on hold scary push the button God sorry I'm back in New York to push the button all right we can we find some budget over the weekend let's give away cash next week come on what we'll try all right thank you you're one of the best all right we gotta get into this a Ghandi in the in the spirit of fair went out and found a couple of lists online lists of creepy things that women do right and I was accused of I love that don't Poo bear me better not who I will not be prepared all right there you go there's your free book phone tap thank you very much helpful to my friend store a guy was walking down the street with a dog in his backpack my friend took a picture of him and was like Oh my God I love this man can you help me find him I have no idea who is so what are you my name's Gary from Elvis during in the morning show and I love you Dan during the one all right look you and your daughter have a great weekend and enjoy your book it's on the way thanks for listening yeah this is the first thing because she's been wasn't wasn't about this and I've been trying to get into this exactly she says she's coming right out align you don't even talk to anybody in we're going to go through all the time what did you say you have not giving me any west about okay what should I write in Tiffany okay what should I write here are also every morning l was during you are that person thought alone is creepy anyway so in this list you found at bold dot com creepy women's stuff Jim Music for the scary Oh creepy you're you're not creepy he's definitely be creepy if you're hot but let's kind of what we said yesterday that the only difference between creepy and romantic is how it tracks if somebody takes a picture of it don't be shocked I didn't take picture nor did she of somebody in their apartment privately if a woman was walking on the street carrying her dog and I agree hi my hardest all right nice of you I'm trying but yesterday you were talking about we gave the list we were talking about the creepy things guys do so posted the photo and then all of these people are held there you call other people creepy that's creepy view but I feel like it wasn't a public place he's walking down the street he knows he has a dog in a backpack to creepy things especially scary and and and froggy every guy scare your little tiffany go talk to Tiffany Hello Tiffany tiffany won a copy of my book because that's all we the look I know that I do creepy things too but I do my best to try not to I try to think before I creep you know what I'm saying I I'm they're hot I think on this it's how are you going to say it again you're breaking it what's that I think that how high you are is they're directly related to the name we gotta get a budget swing give like fabulous prizes that books are not gonNA get US ratings they're not we literally have books coming out of our ears I mean we have stacks and stacks creeped myself yesterday I thought you did was creepy I thought it it wasn't like one hundred percent full throttle creep creep void but it was pretty creepy I was looking at as being it's amazing that's creepy I've never done that because I've never wanted to give up my last name however I do know that it happens okay another creepy thing women do we find out trigger no no no you would be scary will be labeled a creep but he was already labeled a creep so it's a little late but by the way I'm offended at the voice you choose to use as our voice right are first name with his last name Yes to yes so it's like if I was dating nate and I was just doodling on a piece of paper like made a Marino Oh god I mean what does that mean no I'm not no no no I'm not stubborn really what's up I still think that let's say like Bradley Cooper Chris Pratt or somebody like that if they do these things I don't think it's that it's creepy ever no known online yes I've done that guilty guys do that too I think is D- do that I've I've witnessed that happen okay other things that women do according to bold dot com delays okay I do don't you go back and read texts you receive just to kind of say wait let me make sure I got that and don't you ever read the texts protection with the parachutes no I am not getting on a plane not getting on the plane I am knocking on his plane and we're GonNa get our money back is that clear imagine what our lives together would be like increasingly specific de Creepy explain that to me Gandhi okay so I actually don't do this this is why you're being a jerk maybe he's being a jerk as you said something stupid because he's a tourist that when we started dating I'm a Scorpio she's a Scorpio she's like okay so I have a friend who went snapchat like opened up that you could see where people's locations were and not everybody shut their maps off she was stalking food she would come up and be like hey you guys feel like driving pass little Italy today he's at a restaurant I wanna see who with Oh God creepy no I'm not GonNa do that anyone now you could five year old now I do not number five on the list of things that women do our creepy creepy we obsessive when you speak as that's how I hear whenever you guys are like correcting me about anything or hey everybody I just can't believe that you're actually taking picture not right contract people without them knowing and shows up I think that is creepy we have we have we have this we have a few people who listen to our show that do that and it's like God what stop I get screen shots from friends to analyze and I'm like I don't know that yellow heart doesn't necessarily mean that he's into you if it was a red one I'd agree I'm getting some a heads up from out the hallway to the of photo of her and said GonNa find this woman you don't think it'd be Kinda creepy I actually don't I'd be like Oh that's kind of cute he likes his cereal Lee reread our tex conversations yes lon done that and see if there are any clues he likes us back Yes oh God way of interns and phone screeners and they're all raising their hands that they do this all of them Alabama must have contributed feel free to get number three we say our names with his I do have friends who will come home from a first date and be like Oh my God our babies are going to be so beautiful he's GonNa WanNa live in a farmhouse we talked about it I'm looking out into our little to lined up that's yeah as long as you promised to be efficient as a producer I do a produce job during the break it'll be great I'd been trying desperately okay and they don't find it don't go find it just sit there and think of ways to be creepy number one we stalk our crushes and everyone wasting my time talking about how I'm being a bad host time now screw all of you hold it up let's let list creepy don't do that don't you know you're creeping people out and especially if it's a guy you like wins you any point like Oh fancy meeting you here at the laundromat I don't know that we should date because to Scorpio's together is not you don't my favorite saying and I've said this before someone who go what's your sign I'll go well I'm a Leo and then go ooh I sent all the time either to could I go back and re I spill things correctly that I'm us up and I try to think if there was like a tone that was in the tax that I didn't mean to be in the tax or if I was they had no idea up done yeah okay next on the list of things that make you look creepy women talking to significant others like a baby getting a tone in the tax that I I wasn't really happy with okay next on the list of ways women are creepy wherever he is we are too no idea my voice is that annoying only refreshing in fact I just picked up my favorite flavor sweet Habanero put it on my eggs this morning you should do the same pickup Shalala tell your friends please take your creepy try around the room we'll start with you Gandhi what's on your mind today okay so this weekend I decided I wanted to find all the pop ups in New York City I was introduced the show and we'll be back with more creepy things that women do thanks to Gandhi because he's the creepiest of all of them I anna gone different rooms of cool stuff I'm going after the show I'm really excited to do it I love a good pop up me to walk across the street I know what's up with you today froggy in the morning show well it is the weekend it feels so good am I the only one feeling it feeling it his astrological sign and then see we're compatible healty time really currently now if I get into an argument with my boyfriend I will google like the Taurus man and I send it to and I'm like really needed he's been holding that breakside like four minutes starting to staying in it's starting to hurt on the other side of my hand now oh no now is there pain shooting up your arm not yet okay all right let us know when you get no way to interrupt you what am I gonNa do call your phone the camera and he's looking away his elbow was just guys you're sitting here because there are always some really cool ones there's directly across the street from US literally there's four hundred feet away it's called pick sanity and it's an art installation from this guy who just made like eleven line here because you are an idiot and you can even check on business to make sure that we will be the Senate Tom down that's GonNa finally doing this and you're gonna you're making it about pain and you're putting my life on be that's the worse but nate and his girlfriend and I really like her listened mushy puff here and we could talk about it more but we couch right exactly and we talked about it so I saved the clip and yesterday he went to sit down on the couch naked and instead of yelling at him I just played the clip so one tells you what's up guys with Allistair and the morning show so Gandhi thinks she's a hot sauce queen on the morning show no it's me I'm hooked on Tshiluila great talking to the guys this morning all right let's talk to Alexis Alexis is calling in what are we talking Oh we're talking about women I just well here's what we'll do I'm not going to be stubbornly oh I'm going to give this we're late already we'll take a break while we're you know breaking week maybe can get a caller all down right where you're putting your hey if you missed our chat with our friends bts this morning you can go to The Elvis Duran show that was weird okay Alexis you good I am really excited to be talking to you I love that important to add to this conversation so let's get to it so we're talking about it's not only guys who do creepy things girls women do creepy things to as Gandhi is proving every day we're finding creepy things hello which created thing didn't we hello can you hear me yes can you hear us because if things don't work as you said then you'll be very disappointed but isn't there also something to be said for fantasizing you know what I'm saying okay breaking forty eight or forty one off okay well let's take a break I'm cited a real thrilled yeah you sit down when you sit down on furniture make sure you have some pants on or some underwear make sure your girlfriend doesn't work in radio or put exactly or put a towel while I was talking about earlier now is starting to sting really bad so I'm not sure what the problem is I use super glue to close a cut on my hand and now it's starting to hurt really bad so I'm not sure I did the right thing if anybody is there or you can always go to web md they know everything from our producer. Sam what's up with you this place oh come on let's walk they try home anytime it's like you have no idea how excited I am right now here obviously you have something very with this guy or even just you know writing you know Mr and Mrs like Marino or whatever I think that's just super creepy I think that you know overall it's such a blessing and such a curse at the same time because culture you know a couple of weeks ago I said my role in the apartment is William can't sit on the couch naked there's no buttonholing I met the guy but just in case would my first name sound good with his last name let's check it out I do get that I do our own account by the way to be fair guys do that too so it's not just a woman thing okay here's one okay Alexis Gandhi it's creepy if you take in post pictures of him sleep I feel like that could happen like maybe two or three days after you know what I mean because you know you don't know much about the person on the first date sometime oh I didn't see that all right let's take a break and let's get the list producer producer Oriel things percents that works we find me some caller I must be honest I posted I've posted Alex sleeping photos to are we creepy Alexis are we creepy okay so I actually saw what Sam was long you've been dating the person not known letter finish Dondi go ahead I'm sorry I guess like if you've been dating for like we have we have an offender in the room you said that producer Sam I did that yesterday shoot I saw it you pacer of will sleeping Ah let's see you ask to share social media passwords or accounts I guess it depends on how ping yesterday in crime wait hold on yeah so which one are you calling in about so I'm calling in Abou t after I when you're talking about you know how like starting a family referring of this is creepy referring to herself as princess or Queen Okay I can't stand it yeah number eleven have a friend it was a couple of times he's holding up the side and ready to hold it back you would look away the cavaliers Paul back to discuss on what the Elvis Duran show on instagram it's at Elvis Duran show on instagram and the conversation with bts is right there it was wait Alexis while we have you on the phone let me go down let me continue with this list that Gandhi found at Bolton Dot Com and see what you think some of these things you and Gandhi worker in the okay God I was Brown girl right now it's pretty awesome I love you Alexis hold on one second okay have a good weekend let's see more on this list had a girl create a fake instagram account and DM me to see if I would respond to that person the faked fictitious person okay so she leads me Yeah Okay Ah medical professionals you could text and let us know on cut on the hand is a good idea or a hurts really bad I'm not I'm not against anyone who's Mushy I think that's great but like you know when you're just like constantly posting pictures of them sleeping and you're just like Oh my God it creepy you're right now and also Sam don't post pictures of will but holding the furniture we don't WanNa see Alexis thank you have a great weekend it's a pleasure yeah and then you posted it well I spent a few hours cooking and I was really excited about it and I told him and he came in and the first thing he thought he had to do was take a nap before he tried all the food I did so I posted a photo of him sleepy don't read that if you're to that point you shouldn't be with them right let's go talk to Jennifer Line twenty-one Hey Jennifer hi can you hear me talking about so I didn't think that was creepy I think that's just like you know that was kind of funny but if you're like posting a pitcher and just kind of like I don't know just kind of I'm not really much you personally I think I think it's less than two years and you're asking about social media passwords then you know I don't think that's cool but then again it also depends on like how faster moving but uh-huh and then Gandhi I just WanNa say you're doing all the brown girls out there I just want to let you know that I'm around girl and I'm so happy you're on this show shouldn't do that you should wait a while because you're just gonNA break your heart in the end or you break your heart is yeah well there is a possibility of going too fast and it's not good for you works he will never do it again and to he's kind of pissed because he goes you just you talk about my whole now on the show you know it's not just that it's he's putting it putting it but he's like medium that's creepy criminal yes this producer Sam now that's just that's illegal that's legal what's up name so thickly and you know what if you'd like a serial killer from point the next thing you know you're fantasizing about having the last name of Syracuse there are no killer fantasize about being alive because you're dead together probably ten years or even you know even like five years time you're thinking never ever do share with you always setting that makeup line that people sell no the the modern one that would the one that Darren favors wife cells age it's my favorite meals yeah having a way can you send me a sign sure please Oh my God absolutely you sign it Oh my God okay I how about a girl who poached holes in her boyfriend's condoms in hopes to trap him and get him get pregnant that's hit on her significant other to see if that person will cheat that's really scary definitely agree with a lot of the items on that list that are creepy but I think that I am guilty Oh what did you do yes I can you sound great now are you hearing all these things were saying these are things that women do seem creepy are you agreeing with anything not if you contact his new girlfriend to tell her that he's a cheat absolutely don't I wouldn't do that either here it is contacting your just randomly drive passes apartment complex to see if his car was in the parking lot snow the voice you hear that setting in sorry about that so Arianna yes talk about creeping what have you done that's been creepy or what have you witnessed so I myself deputy bosom and she'll lean into order drink making sure she brushes against them hoping it starts a conversation that's assault you can't put your body parts on people and I can't find okay but you know what to be fair in this day and age when we have the access to look up almost anything about anyone and we want to know more why would we not do it you know what I'm saying one yes definitely creepy yeah absolutely that's putting the pressure on I'm in I'm in all right uh-huh Crowley no okay let's see also on the list help us out with this it's creepy ladies if you immediately start talking about your future children with him or with any or look up somebody's name and then find out where they live what you know taxes on their houses worth right taxes well I mean it's available we'll see what they're paying property taxes are let me read this to you as someone who sent a text is it creepy it works let's talk to Arianna online twenty-three see if she's still there hi Arianna Hi hi yes I can not hear I have a party rain we've been married for seven years we've been together for fifteen and I told them about it this past weekend and he thought it was hysterical because you're together long I wanna like virtually driving by though it is it's a tough thing though because in this day and age you should google somebody if you know their first and last name because I've been in a situation where I was because most of the time at work wait a minute but if scary walks in and starts putting his crotch on you before he hugs I mean what's the difference exactly you do not thank you have a good weekend Jennifer listening to all right yes producer Sam I have a friend that if she sees a guy at a bar she thinks is attractive she has a very the criminal and I didn't know but if I would have just google the name I would have known so I get that but you have to have the willpower to stop before you're creeping on their property taxes the other thing that on the list which creeps me out that I might be creepy but I also like to Google uh-huh maybe I'm a creep now I don't know yeah I mean I'm not gonna go drive by and see if they're there or whatever but just out of curiosity to see like if they have a nice house I mean I know but if you had told him that night hey destroyed by your apartment to see if you're parked there that would have been a problem then don't you think probably I say hey please don me then kill Free Percy you've ever said that before route proceed with the dogging no but I mean I may use this weekend ex's new girlfriend to tell her all about how he screwed you over is that creeping planning yeah it's one thing to think about it and have your personal comments don't if I did anything wrong on the first date it's like you know but just by virtue of noodle hearing what we're saying here he doesn't understand these are all creepy things yourselves but to actually do it I think is a little too far all right it makes for a good story yeah definitely ministration is reportedly going to host next year's g seven summit at President Trump's Durell resort in Miami apparently it was the best as far as finances go and they're excited to do this Stroz just one win away from the world series we want the Yankees for Danielle but last night they took took the lead eight three they actually won the game and now they're up three one a very special contest all right we'll be back right after this Elvis durant what is it with these people between this on a date or maybe not even the fourth day you know maybe you should wait until you're together for a year before you start naming your children I agree I don't know Arianna thank you for listening have a great weekend which means the biggest leaders economy from seven nations we'll be meeting in south Florida and we talked about this but traffic Florida's crazy as it is so brace yourself if that happens attacks I once had a guy on the first date tell me how many children their names and what kind of dog he wanted and where he wanted to live the next day he asked me out I politely declined he responded asking me if I wanted the three things you need to know from Gandhi who is creepy keep in mind as she gives you the three things but that's okay we love you John I appreciate it what's going on trump her marriage and children goes I want to be engaged in year I want to be married in a year and a half and I want kids in three years check please hold on a second we have top of the charts on the way gotta give you the biggest songs around the world also food news with FROGGY hopefully we'll get to that in a few minutes and also a five hundred dollar party city gift card on the way with the Youtube showing her office for her cosmetic line and she walked into stormies playroom that she has in the office and said this pass and pillow in his bedroom and on his bathroom floor just to just to be like so if other women showed up Gotcha market territory creepy yes let's home it's about fifteen minutes scared I had a friend whose girlfriend mortar territory by ripping her hair out of her head and leaving it all over get to Dong me to have Don's no you lied to enter to tell her to stop Dong and don't pull you have to get an invitation to them away a five hundred dollar party city gift card by the way he's still alive but if he were a ghost he'd be giving this this the forty

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FC 139: Spiked Eggnog

FrazlCast - A World of Warcraft Podcast

1:25:21 hr | 1 year ago

FC 139: Spiked Eggnog

"And welcome fussell cats. Come aboard the the please make sure to keep your limbs. An experimental instruments inside the Trina and now on with the show podcast by blizzard. Fan about world warcraft. And geeky stuff. I promise you they do talk about the world of warcraft. Just go off the rails sometimes gather around for. I am great father winter not to be confused with jacket CAINE. Hey in tonight. We will explore the meaning over urges. Wait sorry is our mark tonight. We'll have some fun around the fire in loosen unfriendly and I enjoined line by one of my best friends and do guest poppy. Poppy and also the table. We have returning guests lady Emma and rooster. I am promised I will not causing trouble. But I'm I'm not sure about rooster. So underserved unders episode. I figured it'd be nice to unwind like an and Thanksgiving episodes have a bit of Mary. Fun So we'll get to know poppy. Christmas memories play bit of Trivia and and more I have some good news. A -sorts has a has agreed to buy ignore for all of us to enjoy is ignored with awesome ram. It's a virgin eggnog. So it's can have some with round. I'm sorry it's courtesy of smoking pastures. They don't give a sources. EGGNOG SPIKING on the sign agree with czars drinks. That because I've never snuck in there by the cook but I didn't notice it tastes different so I'm all good. I still haven't had an egg note so there whether chicken and waffles no just regular Beef Bacon and Waffles. I finally bought a hot plate for opus. Personnel can actually start cooking for him ooh Nice. He said he's not allowed to use it so I just hit it away in his place for speaking of hiding things I think Sandy. What time is it? It's time to go around the table. Great idea so what have you been up to. Recently we will start with poppy. Men spending a lot a lot of time with family and we did the whole big Christmas thing. With the the way I'd like bounce from family to family to family and that was a A lot of new experiences rate there and I've been working Latin a got a promotion at work. I guess. That's you work in a Lotta overtime. So that was a good new thing out of been learning how to play John. Deere I point to the zoo. Oh and saw the the Christmas lights at the zoo and and as always idea a little ballroom dancing so I never knew that Nelson. Yeah that's pretty much what I've been doing with my time. Awesome keeping busy. Yeah always busy busy busy because it can. I Know No. You definitely don't work nine to five. You work like six till like ten PM. It feels like sometimes I sometimes it certainly feels that way. I do keep busy and I also try to keep that work life balance and do a lot of fun things with my friends and my hobbies somebody else who keeps busy a lot. What is a warlock named rooster? No I'm not evil you're not look no L. O.. What what are you sell? This Day went. Yeah that sounds about right so this is a link. I saw on joke channel and some other discord server that I'm I'm on and and so what I am. I'm a Paladin who was an ex priest who realize he can't heal stupid nice. Yeah I made a Paladin and real life I mean being a real person who does. It and in comes in and saves people's issues. You had a lot of that recently as probably a lot around the the Christmas season it comes and goes for me personally but It was good the the new customers I picked up because one of my friends. He works for a local teashop. They focus on doing the offices. You know. I don't know how many computers but they have kind of a minimum threshold of as to how many computers will solve problems for but they don't do individuals Problems so my friends been referring those types of cases to me and so I picked up a few new ones which is nice nice. Yeah I think it not a lot of wild time. No I've been Let's see Friday. I was working. I did about eight hours or so straight Friday and then Saturday spent the day working on the the problems that I brought home on. Friday and sunny saint thing worked on the Sopranos or brought home from Friday. And the Monday when those problems resolves so I took it back to its owner and set it up for them and got them going and they were just blown away by the service they got which was nice to give me a tip. Tuesday will else Christmas Eve so those goes up island to visit. My grandparents and Christmas Day was Christmas Day. I did some work than to from that. Had to take care of for my housing and here we are grow boxing day. But I'm not in a box but kind of our on on the video I mean I I got you on twitch video and stuff like that. I mean. We're all in boxes like I'm trapped here in this box listener square okay. Yeah but I'm not square I'm more potato-shaped title shaped and somebody who who probably likes potatoes. Maybe definitely like Putin's proteins right WHO Teen soaked him? Yes so a resonant Canadian. Oh that you're you're you're Canadian but Emma's blonde a lot. More more is kind of a Canadian. What have you been lots of stuff with? Work has been crazy busy because I'm off work for about a month. Wow I use now will not really yes now so before. I am off our my manager to decide. We're going to do a father shuffle. So I had to do all that and he kinda put me in charge and that was fun because my coworker wasn't listening to any instructions. I just like whatever I'm offer offer a month. I'll deal with this when I come back. Yeah so I'm off for the Christmas holidays because this year was my year to have that off but then I am going to be going to Europe in January anuary exciting. We're in Europe London. Noailles are you gonNa do the Harry Potter stuff I would love to. I don't know if I'm going linked to because of Wham staying in where it's located. It's kind of heart get there unless you drive Dada. Yeah Yeah but they do have some like little tours of where things have been. You know shot around London one of the Times. I went to London I went to the London Zoo and they had a nice big plaque saying this is the snake from the first movie. Are The exhibit for that Nice has spent the whole twenty four. Th with my Oba nice made him all the food the recipes I know of of Manana. All 'cause I couldn't bring her back but I think it brings back. Memories of food fully. He was ecstatic static with the twenty fifth. I spent it with My boyfriend and his family and I was boxing day and I spent a AH morning with his grandmother. We went out for dim sum than him in playing games and then when the game boyfriend got me for. Christmas was the newest professor Professor Layton one. Oh Nice on the switch but then I realized there's a lot of games they're missing for the story per abyss Kazaa configure from the game. I played last on the three D. S. to those game. There's a big story gap not promoting this but found a way to play the the older games so I can actually fill in some blanks of the story and apparently there was a cartoon movie on this game. I play the Games on three. Those are interesting. I like story there definitely challenging. It's a fun game to play. I Love Puzzles. And that's what got me hooked. Oh I had to in my nephew's birthday party. We got him a switch from the family is he's been asking for it for awhile and we kept telling no nope it's too expensive too expensive ends of. But then he got really money conscious where he was asking how much everything is and if anything over twenty bucks it was too expensive and we can't get yet. We felt really really bad. Me My mom and my dad and my OPA all putting money to get him one because we have enough for games. I have games so he gets to borrow my games ox cool. Have a photo of him. This of just the look on his face once he registered why he got all that's cool. It was super adorable super happy. His Dad's not happy about it. My sister doesn't care because she sees her son. Happy happy my niece. She got her presence from end. She was happy and excited with that. I got her all the little miniature petite frozen characters it did you get Samantha. No Samantha's my favorite character in frozen. Oh now now I got it now. Okay Eh yeah I know some say no Samantha but there is Olaf so maybe he can go search for her. Yeah do the unknown Own the unknown until now until the new year. I'm just trying to get my place in order so when I leave to England I come back and I don't have to do a minimal cleanup hopefully 'cause my boyfriend's name behind he's not coming with me. He's going to be in the middle of classes once I go so oh no yes. Yeah congratulations boyfriend. Yeah he's going back to school to get a gene another degree of some sort which the fourth that he has his double major in business. Economics Nice graduated aided university with honors. Nice yeah you. You've been doing a lot. I have half like my segment ridden and I'm like I really need the finish writing. This and I got distracted by other things going on Monday. I'm still working on it. Good thing I've got a pretty empty weekend. Except for Saturday Saturday's my day was family. But you know it's weird you've got something all of you sound like you've had a busy December. Yeah I've had a nice relaxed December. Happy Harold Charles. I hate you. I got Hawaiian. Leis got laid. That's rain to lace. Yeah so I got back from a crude with Hawaii so it was a lot of fun I gave it a wait. Oh get this on this cruise. There were enough elderly that okay. boomer would only apply to one fifth of the passengers and we got delayed the first day because there are done enough oxygen on the ship chip. That's a lot is awful. This is not the cruise for elevators. Because everybody's waiting for their scooters. I walkers and stuff like that the young guy on board Young guy the woman that you were young Ashley. I'm not younger. They used to be my back hurting taking a leave every day. Because it's been hurting since Thursday when I got back this trip for my parents fortieth anniversary in the next year you renewed their vows. Alves at a Luau. He was so cool. That's adorable that's and same. Got Naked at my shirt on stage to be a Hawaiian and warrior makes gun show the show and my mom was like wait. It did he go. And we got to see my aunt and my uncle on so that was cool and we went Luau too so we were in melodrama on the cruise so I was detective bloom and all that and so that was fun. Really got to blossom yeah I got the blossoming awesome anchovies skills. And there's a cool thing that happened. So these podcasts and the streams have helped my communication skills so they have a game called Yes snow where you cannot say yes or no for three minutes and guess who won you yes can you has. Has We still trying to get onto say sixty nine so I wanted to say yes it did. Ah Yes indeed wavy anything. It means the same thing it vanish. I it said it's okay. 'cause it's a foreign language exactly. Yeah and one thing I did at the cruise was there was Karaoke and I send Kariuki three times in front of an audience laugh now now and that was cool and so what I've done now is I have started out twitch things again so I'm going to watch out for Heisenberg GONNA be careful duets. But I started doing more to dudes which things I think. It's fun I mean I've got this great long big black thing to us now. It sounds good. Oh tasseled thank you know being able to talk to something. Audibly is great because my girlfriend's now able to drive with me so I'm I'm finally riding in cars. Cars were girls. I got an echo. My sister for Christmas. This thing is actually really cool. It's Echo it looks up to your phone and it's in the car so like I can talk to echo. It'll play the music for my phone and like my my podcast. So having echo in your car whenever it's their Fresno president warn you don't drink park accidents caused people convinced 'cause ahead but you know what then go read though in. Wow I got the merrymakers achievement final installations you murdered a lot of people. Yeah today I had a few things left so I was working on those. The one that was catching me was the one where you had to get kills has gnome because guess who's the first one that die and backgrounds this know. How can they see though? That's why you you basically do the kill and just hang around the yeah. I know now. We're telling him he could hang around them because yeah he could just ride on their shoulders. I'll never thought about taking bike rides. That would have been good boom short and then the final thing I did I. We have an now exulted with these Larry Song. Unlock them later on. So I can be trolling people. You think yes. You're not a troll. I'm not at all no no. I know. I'm an obvious but I could be now because I've unlocked them. You think I think. I hope I'm not a drill so poppy yes I like to get to know guests when they come on the show for the first time. I know you the audience. I know you've probably but the audience doesn't no you copy. Please describe your work in the most vaguely. Possible to protect your privacy. Okay so vague. Way a possible. I'm now a chemist and I work in food quality and food safety so basically what I do is I make sure that you're the food that you each meets all the safety regulations in the US and in Canada and that it meets the label claims. And what that means is that If the company says that it has X. amount of calories or fat or fiber or vitamins and minerals or a that it's GMO free or Allergen. Free that it really does meet all those qualities. That's cool so you have ways to test the food to see what each of those it has. Yes Oh that's cool Lord at that facility in the chemistry department. That's what we do so I'm GonNa be asking You What foods should be avoiding? Well like is I mean. There's other things we do that maybe not on your label like we'll test to make sure it's pesticide-free that their governments might regulate as well you know make things share things don't have heavy metals in them just so that you're safe not just naturally higher in certain things I mean. I should pretty low calorie salary. Right certainly low calorie go ahead and calories. Okay Nice cream okay. Number you just gotTa carry a decimal small point or a comma. You're safe. Dad Sell people on Youtube. Eat All those. Those things of food and not gain weight gets hit his. It's called we'll fix it in post out care. I need that 'cause I gained a lot of problems on the I went from like two thirty two to forty nine so I gotta go down always told calories. Don't count on vacation. Frankly don't scale that my skills like fatty what he'd doing backing they hate. The scale is just jealous. Because it wasn't with you when you want okay. I learned new philosophy to it's not fat. It's called called installation. Oh your time I like that. Insulation Gabriel Iglesias said. He's not bad he's fluffy year. You see I coming floppy make me like a fluffy teddy bear ice so poppy. What are your hobbies so with my friends and family? We like to play board games. You know just get together but mostly I'm like the ballroom dance invoice quite honestly. I think I have the very best partner in and this this coming year is bound to be very best year yet. Oh Cou could use tell me more about your partner tell you more about my partner. He's probably been dancing for what is ten twelve years I think so. I think that's right. It is much more experience than than I am is freshly this partner Hersey. Are You my partner. Oh I know the secrets so I'm sorry picture doesn't tell anything does it. Oh with a just a fool bomb so so for Ati listeners. There's a photo on on twitch in poppies box. That is one that I forgot that I even was in a copy. I forgot I was in that one the competitions when we went that was a lot of fun as he just wanted to have his picture up there twice yet BAGRI. It's not enough to name the PODCAST. After me. I have to also be the guest area twice because they should up your demise pitcher now. He's just short that he needs to stack up to Be as tall as everyone a week. He's writing on puppy shoulders. Yeah you're right I see it now. I am poppy shoulders. Yeah is but you know we we do ballroom dance together. And he is much more experience than I am but he is like a foot taller than me so there is some differences that we have to deal with when we're dancing when you dance with somebody who's a whole foot taller than you twitter right foot. Some difficulties overcome to overcome puppy underestimates. Themselves they are really good and I. I enjoy dancing with poppy. It's it's been a lot of fun in the twenty twenty. It's GonNa be awesome great year. Yeah and seen some of those videos. You've done really well thank you. We've got a lot of fun for sure we've already choreographed. Korea graft our next routine for this coming year. And you know I think we can tell the audience quite the theme of this one. Is Harry Potter so we are doing HEDWIG. Yeah it's GonNa be really exciting Lynch here yeah got launched and cloaks like that. Hopefully that's just a wonder your cloak. Now I'm GonNa roll the dice on through the next segment now. Puffy you've also started to play. Dnd let me tell you you're all about my experience so far meaning the bef we picked up my niece from Tim's practice she's twelve and it was just smooth Roland. She hopped opt in the car and I was like how is tennis and she was like I would like to play. That was like a you. Don't expect to their cool. Those are the words the of has always wanted to hear you say we put together a game and now I find find myself playing D. and D. with two thirty year old men in two preteen girls quite a unique group it. It is quite a unique group because I've never played before the girls have never played before it's my his roommate and and they played a lot so they're like into it and the girls are just like it's my two nieces but my one needs really wants to play the other ones. I was just like I just came for the pizza. It's been a unique experience in. I'm just doing my best to like. Keep the gang in together and play and learn we got these little characters. I made my character. I'm a High Elf Bard. I don't know if they go together. But they go together for me and of course. Her name is poppy because chorus of all of it having a good time is supposed has just been unique experience. I think I don't think it's how most people's experiences are going. And they play. Allie barger funding. I believe Elliot's the Bard is well the biondi good bias yes I like the artistic abilities of the Bard so far obviously I like the artistic. Because he couldn't sight of things jolly said that they were a bar until the group fell apart. And I'm like aw now do you sing when you're barred. Yeah that's what her ability is. I'm not a great great singer. Singer your get singer. Well okay well thank you some DVD DM's I found. We'll give you extra. Xp points are things if you go into character. So maybe she practices Vocal carts. Yeah I am hoppy Vard hard on casting the spell here you go. The enemies fall down. Woo Woo woo them poppy. I know who I'm inviting driving to the next game I would love to play with. You says the thirty year old man. That's right I end. Turning thirty in March young I can play with three thirty year. Old Man sounds by. Oh three minute of art three men and a bird that sounds crazy and Elliott saying that you could always That they hummed final countdown for one of the abilities Need any member that Allie. Thank you see giving out tips to to people listening and love it. You can be a barred in D.. Find out how poppy has. Of course now my won niece is a rogue so she tries to steal everything cut the Maniac Wa. We're on the second team I know but I need it. It's mine never got a major to ooh. That sounds like family like families always doing stuff the weight. This is not knives Out The movie which I need this. I want to see that I went saw Jumanji that when to open to see star wars on on Tuesday. Wait I'm looking on Tuesday. Maybe we'll restore probably not because you're over three thousand clamours away from where I am. Details details small details gap. And I'm not that far will then come on free over him and I'll take you wanNA have money share. Because I spent a lot this Christmas l.. Buy Your ticket. Oh Nice wait no I. Don't you buy your ticket got seen points. You can use you Canadian or you still hoarding those. Oh did you hear about the British cinema. Has Bought Cineplex. Oh so does that mean. You're going to use them in England when you I go not yet but I think we might be losing them. Oh monopolies I tell you I know yeah or games ruining everything and you know monopolies the bad games of play in families because it creates crazy things like our family played on a road trip to California California. Oh that was not good. But how many divorces happen because of monopoly. Yep probably a lot. What about the game of life? I've never played that game. Losing right now see. I remember playing life. A Lot. Didn't have much of a life. I have eaten a lot of life though and people think. I'm bad for collecting souls. You're is that what my life seems to be disappearing. That's why he coming back to me for Marcel. Stones jotted speaking of life and stuff like that life is crazy especially around winter. Vail's Lush Christmas and the holidays. So what is the craziest Razia Christmas. Memory you have. We will start with poppy ten years ago. I had surgery around Christmas. And I had my gallbladder taken now but I was living in Salt Lake City at the time and my mom came out and had the surgery in. We flew back to my mom's home but the whole time I had surgery and then like five days later I got on an airplane. Wow so this is why it's crazy. Because has your kind of doped up on you know painkillers. And then a security is a high risk. Nowadays on airplanes I had had a sweatshirt on. It's wintertime and there need to take your sweat shirt off what you have to take your shirt off to go through security and I was like but I took my coat off so that I refuse to take northwestern off and then I had to go to like extra security in the to raise your arms out as so they do the metal detectors on you in tears are going down my face because I had to raise my arms up security in. We had layover. It's which got delayed because of stormy weather so that we were like basically slept the night in Chicago airport and I was like we're never gonNA make it wide Redo this we made it so then I basically recovered that. My Mom's house to fly back I. I was a schoolteacher in Salt Lake City so I had two week vacation basically recovered at my mom's house and then the flight home was nice. That was pretty crazy. That whole flight. Right yeah wow and yet. The painkillers already didn't help anything like slow. Didn't seem to help. Oh Lady of you see a lot of my christmases aren't PG's so uh-huh. I grew up in a non. PG House imagine. There's no parental guardians was. It's out in the backyard mean. You're you're growing up. Periods was little more triple X.. Desert accent yes see. I have the worst Christmas not the craziest Christmas. Okay with that so my worst Christmas would have been in. My mom had a surgery for kidney cancer on December twenty third shortly before that when my friends passed away so I was already dealing with stress of my friend. Pass away dealing with stress among going for major surgery. My mom got a brand new puppy because some reason she had a bright idea in her head therefore she gets had surgery. She's getting a brand new puppy. And I just remember trying to deal with my own grief. Plus take care my mom plus plus the puppy and my sister's attacking me because I didn't want them to spend Christmas at my mom's place because I was trying to clean it before among got home and the reason for for is if you ever met my mom. She's one of those people when she stuck in a chair right after surgery and this is a true fact that she will try and clean and and she nine nine percent of the time rips her stitches. Oh so it was like a major gotTa have the house completely clean before she comes home from surgery but my sister's didn't see that so they said I was a horrible selfish person so that's my worst Christmas. That was crazy hectic and horrible. Oh Wow yeah yeah. Sorry dancing in the Christmas mood the grinch for a reason I can understand Christmas businesses. Hard with families with names like if families are listening that was great. I love my family. I understand who they are what they need. They don't always understand what other people need. But I can't expect anything different from them so and at least online friends can be family like tonight. I think this is probably one of my favorite Christmas gathering of this year. So totally agree pretty awesome. That's kind of crazy. 'cause you know trying to travel everywhere. I brought the dog to the hospital. The puppy to the hospital right after surgery and the dog and Ping everyone got in trouble with the nurse. Well she has this thing. Like if she's scared or startled she pees is this submissive P so picking her up she pete yes she still has this thing. If I grabbed the collar around her neck to holders that she automatically just squats and peace. I'm Alpha by the way you're all al.. I never guessed it elephant so from what Alpha to another rooster. What what is your craziest Christmas? Every I I honestly can't think of anything growing up christmases tended to be often kind of hectic because my parents never married so they never lived together after Charles born and my mom raised me so I lived with my mom and I would visit my recall. Credit Christmas Eve was usually with my dad and his side of the family and then Christmas Day. Okay was with my mom and that's still kind of how it's done so the like. I said you know this Christmas Eve drove up violent to visit my grandparents and see them. And that's what we still do. Double Christmases says not double presents. Probably well yeah. My Dad would give me presents. My mom would give me presents but it wasn't that type of you know stereotypical. TV shows style Where the parents were competing okay? full-time and my dad was the part time. So it's interesting that all of you mentioned traveling because My craziest memory involves traveling. There was one time I was staying home to work on present for the family and they were going to Gatlinburg I. How do you get this done to? Are we ready for Christmas. And they all are going to Kevin well. I got sick before they left and then they all proceeded to get it has earlier in the day leaving. They're coming down with an I'm on. I'm on the hill during the downhill. Then well. They're all driving down there. It's better all all them like. I leave the Group of Eight people and this isn't just cold. We're talking puke upstairs downstairs. Yeah so that a miserable time and Gatlinburg and I actually had a great time. It was all quite lion at home. I was working on this project. I actually got better at home so they got sick because I mean I ended up with a nice. Is this the home alone story. Sound like a little bit like the opposite of home alone though the. US being sick. Yeah he them the the wild he was Asian zero. Yeah Yeah and around Christmas we give gifts making them six not a gift but sometimes still it could be an unusual usual thing. I mean they gave me the gift of. I got to have a peace and quiet at home. But what an unusual gift you've given or received for Christmas to happy haven thinking about this for a while Ashley like. What is the most unusual gift I have received my niece Walter Little Heart. She was probably only like five at the time like five or six little. She wanted to take out her own gifts for me. I mean she's sweet little thing and she bought one of those like makeup display spinning kind of like Nick Lazy. Susan thinks that you can put like all the Nail Polish isn turns in. It's like a tier tower kind of like a cake sour. It's huge. I like have no place to put it. I got this maybe five years ago. It snow in the box. Because I don't know where I would ever put this weird the thing that you would see at like a nail salon. I hit a hair salon. You need very unusual. I A few really bad because you know she's older now but you know I have like a white elephant gift if the White Elephant Gift Exchange. But they don't WanNa do it like as a holiday party at Up so they're doing it at the end of January because of you know like can't do anything religious or anything I was Kinda thinking about giving it away. Then do it funny. It's better for someone being able to actually use it to its sitting in the box for like how long have if you had it probably five years. Yeah the Nail Polish might not even be good still not Container it's I mean it's not a little it's huge dude. But it's like the little spinney thing totally for your nail Polish collection or any. I don't use makeup Nail Polish Yup alternate white elephant gift exchanges or perfect like an youth group. I I got a railroad sign has whatever gift we still don't know how career would sign but that was easy need to just go out there and jump on and then hang on until it comes off the railroad so so we think that they took the post as well. Yeah Yeah We. We don't know if it was legal. Oh I'm sure it was. Yeah it just happened fall over. When they leaned on? It happened all the time. No yeah someone else leaned on it and they noticed that I was just lying there. Thought that Steph collecting dust state should recycle it reuse. Yeah yeah we were told to recycle it works and Riester. How how about you getting off hand you get to go first? Yeah because then that way can finish with a the big bang. Oh yeah and I got to think the ad I can't think of anything. Nothing crazy per se. Nothing stands stands out goes. I mean yeah you know. Usually something like that kind of stands out so his easy been tradition. Just you know stuff that needed to be used to space or dental floss Assar clothing or stuff like that so sorry. I'm such a disappointment. Now we still love your rooster. You want Emma Emma's has I think was interesting gifts. So why don't you enlighten us. So like I said I didn't really grow up the most the PG an environment and what it was. My mom usually invites misfits. Anyone who doesn't have somewhere to go for Christmas and they come over so we usually usually have like fourteen people give or take one year She basically said Hey. Just bring a random present and we'll do like a ponente bag everyone can just grab a random president of the bag for a Christmas gift. So it's kind of like Wales in but you don't get to do the whole steal. Her friends did this whole bags. And all that well they didn't realize that the Kids Aka me and my sister will be taking in part of this so there was some adult content stuff. I'm managed to pull out up. Blow up sheep sheep. What's exactly inflatable? When he said blow up I thought you meant like a okay so I got an inflatable sheep? I being innocent. I don't even know how old I was. I've probably probably maybe ten. Maybe eleven very innocent had no clue what it was thought. It was like a pool toy we I didn't think much of it you know and just okay cool. We have something for the hot tub. Well I noticed that there was a whole. They're I don't know really what the whole is for being naive so I kinda used it as a piggyback. Let me tell you much hold enough. I didn't know where I hid my money for the longest time CA- capitals. That is so bad so yeah That is my my one of my most remarkable usual unusual guests have ever kind. I have to add. Add one to that not. I'd like to top compete. I have unusual gift for Christmas but for non Christmas somebody I know went on a cruise. 'CAUSE I was nine or ten. They brought back a shirt with alligators. Other you know cartoon alligators not realizing the elevators are in incur assisting physicians and say about it but that Walmart t-shirt that was going around rated R. Walmart The but for Christmas L.. The the most unusual gift that I still remember I have it on. My Dresser is Ajar Venom. So years ago we went with with some friends and our family to Gatlinburg. Now this is not the trick where we got sick but we went down there and we went to the Comedy Barn. I got to be on stage and the person's tell give me instructions on how to act and says he tells me now. Tell Them I'm GONNA kill you. What's been them I I thought he said he wanted me to say with Venom? That's what I said is like no have been so then. My friends give me a jar of soap input on the on the on aside venom because it was like green soap so I remember that one kind of significance and sentimental gift to me. Now I want to ask you. What significant instrumental gift? You've given or received guess this Christmas. I got a pretty sentimental gift from my. Oh boy friend he Got Me a necklace with that. Was a locket and inside of it had some pictures Oh it's also really nice. Aw that's sweet. Yeah Nice how about you. I can't think of anything on top of the head for sentimental gifts from me. You know there's a couple of things I know when I was younger I had no money. No had no way to buy gifts so what I did was I gifted. I did my toys to family members and I remember giving my one of my sisters a teddy bear that had for ages and it had like a little brown round velvet. Bow Tie in everything and she kept it for many years but That's one of the things I did being. You know child poor for some reason. Children can't work in America. Go figure the most recent one would be what I did for my OPO which I mentioned earlier in the show where Eh I can't bring Manana back to him As she passed away last year so I can at least bring the memories of her of her cooking because he has ninety eight. There's not much he needs. Yeah ends up and I realized that the cooking can bring back the sense of smell l. in taste and those are two things that can unlock memories. Yeah exactly so he was very happy and that you know I spent the day with him and brought him all this food. He kept telling everyone that I brought him a feast where I'm like I've been brought. I am not much but to him. It was a fees and he definitely eight way more than he has in in quite a while that made me happy and and he was complimenting like my chicken wings where apparently like my Nana's but better. Wow that's because in the later years ear. She kind of forgot about them and Kinda overcooked. Suppose not hard to do so. They made fun of me because his. I'm not used to working on this toaster oven and I had a chicken wings in the toast of everything is technically on. But but I didn't realize the temperature wasn't on so is set to bake. It was turned on and the temperature was at zero so for half an hour. These these chickens just sat into the tray under a light easy bake oven stuff much trying to wing it so they make fun easy on that. I can't cook at a wing in a prayer. I'm glad at least you weren't cooking rooster. So what is it difficult to sentimental gift. Good question question I can't think of anything I'm so bad. You're a goat. No I'm just a cock I'll take over from your and say that mine is that I converted our families old. VHS tapes in the put him on a DVD cool. Aw that's why I stayed back home and and Gatlinburg from Gatlinburg that first time nice and it was cool. Seeing the tears on the faces of my family they watched the the I mean. I made him cry but it was a good cry. Non Digitizing is not easy. You know some people have huge libraries of family memories on VHS. Oh Yeah we we have a lot. I I gotta find out where that backed up somewhere. I gotta find it again. It's been years but I still that gift. That was a lot of fun so I'm glad that all of you enter this and I went to the community jazzy. Came back and said that he got supplies to make a suit nice. I'm Gonna I think either like a I shoot or cause play or suit but that is cool. Hopefully it was something like that and not a silence of the lambs type of not that. You've got I skin clarity. I want to weigh your phase. Leo Al Most significant I have received was my awesome peasy a gift from an online online friend a few years ago. I can't think how one that has had the continued in lasting impact on me than that. Not One did this cool. Yeah and Zeph said it's not about the gifts themselves for them but that they have family around around them for the holidays. That's really nice and I remarked that the gift of time is very important. And that's one thing that I remember with with family as much as sometimes they make great on me. It's this time that we spend together. One hundred percent piss into chat says when I was buying my house in nineteen ninety donate. We were set to close two days before Christmas. My stepdad was my realtor and though I fought with them not to do it. He insisted assistant on waving his commission just to help me put away a little bit of extra cash for incidentals of home ownership to come. That's nice now is Editing no on the year with a late injury Marty says I got my girlfriend a Unicorn. Stable an Amanda says I got my best friend black socks once because of a commercial commercial and says marketing doesn't work. Yeah and try and impossible offer from Burger King at. That's impossible. Well you know it's like Niko for that amount from the ledge came freshly you're never gonna get it because he can't see it's invisible but I have at wrister and he just this needs to rent it in a few more times with me. Yeah me too I need to go with you. Yes because I want all the things. Yeah all the things the things there's an add on for and it's dangerous Salihi addicting. It is also the dictating getting cocaine. Well coking cocaine coke. He because coca-cola used to be a disadvantage. Oh agent that you would take to treat all your ails whereas they don't put cocaine in it anymore. They put in. You know that other white addictive powder sugar Mexico. Oh you sugarcane. Yeah and that's just a plant that grows. Yeah and I had some coke with circe in Mexico when we're in Ensenada Oughta all delicious. I'm glad they don't put it in our coq otherwise I might still be on. High Sugar Cane is definitely tastes. Much better in home and coca-cola with sugarcane on my Counter Right now yeah. There's a lot of shooting by. US You can buy in Canada as well. I've been to soda is made of Sugar King and it's in glass jars to to be able to me that I've enough pop since two thousand and eleven. So don't don't tell me that I didn't hear anything. Why would you be on? It would hurt your but it that way. Okay Okay just like I'm cruise. It's fun to have Trivia and this and Trivia is Christmas Trivia via comes from Lil Luna Dot Com. There are twenty five questions so we all know that Rudolph has ever read knows. But what does Rudolph have ehlers's okay Papi yes correct. So next question rounds oval. Oh Candy's filled with fruit preserves or cream and covered with chocolate or called. Emma give I shoot what it's totally Ghanem ahead right now Clone a Willie. I know who I'm thinking of Oh it's the type of chocolate thing he's with filled with stuff. The brandy only being and stuff natural name for it. Yeah okay. I just called those lake filled chocolates or whatever it is in and truffles is a type of chocolate kinda mix business. Yeah for on Christmas nightmare or night. Night Nightmare n night with an N.. Okay okay sugar plums. Yes Oh those okay sugar plums ray sugar plums were you candied. The fruit like a plum usually covered in chocolate. Okay so am I get a thousand points. So which country created eggnog. DOC and America. Ms Now at two thousand points was in south Georgia. That did it. And I don't know it just says United States was it Alabama so who said God blesses everyone Mr Hanky Pu. No that's the tone you had was Mr Hanky Komo Verster Timothy. Yes you got a thousand points. I can see Mr Hanky. Yeah I could see what's in that box really what we're frosties last words. They have a happy birthday. That was why he says when he gets the hat shoot. Merry Christmas wrong. The Song I sang this one on twitter saying recently. I don't know all the lyrics that song. Jeez I used to watch the show those though every time it came on of course it only came around. Christmastime I'll be back some day again. Thank you Leo. Now's Sunday oh you went all Arnie. All Be Bark corrupt. GimMe half a point for that one because I did kind of cheat not but use take points twenty five hundred and I was trying to figure out if Duncan even the most popular item to put it on the top of Christmas trees. Is Emma Star wrong an angel correct. It's fifty fifty right there. Yes I two thousand points. But I'm pretty sure nowadays. It is a star over in angel just F. Y.. Yeah it depends because some people Dalek. Some are putting Dr who artist is other dinosaurs. I mean assure somebody could the input on the top of their although it had to be pretty sturdy. Top of a tree for GIO fields aren't light. No that would look really nice. Actually take a jailed and put light in the middle of it. Oh how rocks. I see what you did there. So how many wise men were there. According to the Bible Rooster three wrong. Ten wrong four wrong. We're just going to start throwing now. Numbers wrong rooster to wrong. I'm not religious. How are we're supposed to know this? I'm singing the song in my head song. And this is according to the Bible so not not going to the song together so that was the song to that. Says we three kings and they weren't kings despise men and Capo it's not Molinari. Curly Shipping Shirley show still is five one eight wrong Emma And wrong poppy. Seven wrong wrong wrong. Twenty four fourteen. You Rongrong Wrong Sixty nine wrong Okiro actually right because it says it does not say breakings. According to low linen dot com it does not say it was three. Three astrologers were but as a group of astrologers that came from a southeast region I forget where but southeast chiefs region they traveled following the star though I actually I'm going to throw this at this point because Zeros not right either so knowing everybody gets the thousand points at number especially when you start throwing religious the MLB at thirty five hundred and just winning by a little bit here so the next one. Well sorry there's another religious question and after Joseph after the let's throw out the religious questions. I'm curious just doing we'll see if we if not everyone gets a thousand okay. After Joseph Mary and Jesus left Bethlehem they went to which country Jerusalem. I mean this puppy in wrong. Uh Emma Rome wrong no. They went out into the desert hide until Jesus grew up. Yeah Yeah but you Tim Egypt thank you do you keep them in or out the religious ones. Now it's teaching US new thing. Just don't expect us to know the answer like C. I. Hauling Trivia I learned about the we can holiday so we are enlightening people like cans on the tree that would be a fire. Hazard actually may hope it was telling me when he grew. We're up that's what they did and they only lit the candles on the tree on actual Christmas Eve. Obviously that's it that that was the only time and you you basically had to make sure you place them in the right spot so of course. It doesn't catch fire Yup smart because the bright way to do it but that was the only time they let the trees Fran fat talk about Guinean Lit. From what does advent mean Emma counting wrong he Syria. What does advent mean? Hey none of that none of that. I've got echo in my car. She says the arrival of a notable person or thing Siri thousand points on the scoreboard. And we're GONNA win so McDonald's put what holiday images on bags during the Christmas season. You you do realize Canada in US have different stuff on their bags. Oh good point yeah well this one out just okay. What's the answer? Is Holly Trees. Oh trees I think ours are. snowflakes December twenty four eighteen eighteen fourteen ended. What War Emma World War One eight nine fourteen eighteen fourteen breath now? That's not World War Two. No no because my uncle was ever end of the war between Canada and America. AH SORTA Yeah Yeah. 'cause twelve candidate burned on the White House. Yeah so I say I'll give you the half a point. Yeah took a half point for the war of eighteen twelve in eighteen fourteen. I see guys we built your wealth. Has It looks nice. Didn't they. Build it rebuild it twice or three times quoted ties but candidate burnt it down at least once or twice candidate twice that much I swear swear candidate burning their house down twice now that that that's coming in the future I mean what number twelve inch single rock. Everyone is dancing in France. Where do they do it? Emma Winter Wonderland no okay poverty in the frosty. They're not looking for us. The Home Malone seen with the cardboard cutouts attached to drain driving around the house. That's all I know if I can sing that song in my head I know I am. The song's going Jingle Bell Jingle Bell Rock Jingle Bells those chime in Jingle Bell time dancing and Franson and entire Jingle Bell. Wayne ooh Sarda. She's a half point. Yeah Okay so poppy that is twenty five hundred and it is Jingle Ball Square. I was GONNA say back in high school. We hit square dance to that song. Oh Nice or not high school junior high for me talking about Christmas apparently green sleeves. Another name for what Christmas Song Ministry. No I know that that song I just don't know the name of the we three kings saw. No but we're good dude do KINDA CAFO says I'm so angry man. We are failing. This game heart it is. What child is this child next The custom of finding a button in the plum pudding means what to an unmarried man. Emma he's GonNa get married pregnant. No I had. So he's GonNa get a partner to girlfriend or married or something like that. I don't don't think so. Now you just making questions. It's okay the answer is bachelorhood as you Bashan forever dot it wrestler for life. Yeah you don't want to find the button every one year. My grandma baked me me a cake with a pennies or something like that right. Yeah I got one of those guys I wanted it because that was kind of the fad and I was so sad because because my piece didn't have a coin in it but everybody else's did find opinion the cake I think it must be good luck so good luck Korea have any common sense. I see what you did there. I'm just GonNa have to pass the buck on that. So what was the most popular toys of one thousand nine hundred four nineteen eighty-four ghostbusters. Emma tenny rocks Ben Snow. No He's in. He's in one thousand nine hundred eighty four right four blesses bobby the cabbage patch doll. How there wasn't even born yet? I was born about waiting in line to get those cabbage patch dolls. I wasn't Mrs Jones work. I was conceived in nineteen eighty nine fun fact though the League that became you was inside your Mama even when she was a baby inside thirty year Grand Mamma. Oh Wow wow so I invite your grandma file. I'm really old and not. Only half of them was inside his grandmother. This only a half the other half was yeah ninety. Nine eight hundred yeah so the average number of gifts an an adult male gets for Christmas. Is Emma Savon close. Does it depend on what kind of gift that the guy gets. I don't know I mean maybe the bachelor I don't know but I can't you get different gifts and married mid in high emma nine to high eight five. What'd you say? Six probably gets. It stole my white. We're hey where people Christmas. What is the main ingredient in and gingerbread cookies lower okay go ahead molasses yet? gingerbread molasses wrong ginger then rooster flour milling in pretty much any cookies. Because that's what used the most of Chaka could chip shortbread technicalities excetera and wonderful life. What did Clarence receive for his accomplishing his mission? Poppy Wings yes yes over it. Class was the homeless angel. Jill right I am so lost. It's an old black and white movie long before your time but people roughly my age might remember it. Let's don't you watch it every Christmas. No I haven't watched scrooge yet this year now usually watch screwed. It doesn't feel like Christmas. Oh just been too busy. The I even screwed up I was going to watch die hard on Christmas Eve at the right time and I was preoccupied at the time night. Couldn't start it so when you know I wasn't when I was ready to watch it while it's going to be not the right time it's GonNa be passed Christmas Eve Christmas Day already enhanced group. We won't be falling to his death without fear face. It's all failed this year. Only three hundred sixty four days to try it again. Yeah hopefully w live that long. Wow I love I hope you will in other words. He didn't have much for me. Oh well you do with your wife still true. I'M GONNA row as into back to the to the Trivia Trivia Trivia whatever did General Washington Cross on December twenty fifth. Seventeen seventy six harassments. I know that Emma Fraser River over. You wear a painting about this. Exactly Yeah Eh. Any land on the shores of the Delaware or was that the river was Delaware of the did grander. I want to stick with saying the river name was Delaware. Correct painting I will accept a half point for that. Not full-point okay. I only have point. 'cause Lille wild type didn't chat and I happen to see it in the last minute. Thank you Leah Wild. You get the other half point outlier out on board two hundred Siri so he gets a twice because I he helped me so okay so he gets a thousand thousand right now. Okay that one thousand tied with Siri. What song contains the line? Let's be jolly deck the halls with boughs of Holly Only Emma that the house nope Jingle Bells nope the only version I know is dead. The halls was black skin. Dekker would stop there. Not that either and twitched can steal this one no not that one not think about rock. That sounds called deck the halls. I it is it just jingle bells. Well this one is. Let's be jolly deck. This is at least the halls vials of Holly. Follow La la La. La La is a season to be jolly follow Lola. Jolly this one's intern. At least according to the Trivia answer you know what I will give of Houston who said Jingle Bell Rock wild again. So that's yeah there's thousands of them so I will give you five point. Okay I I. I'll give about a full week because ms from so because technically the one that distributor wanted is rocking around the Christmas tree. But you're right. It is also in that song. I do Rocking around the Christmas tree. I thought we already did that. Rock kind of Chris. I was treating her I. I don't have it on here already. We we did we did earlier. Hey I don't make the Trivia Review. I we're challenging the Trivia. So what city name do the States Kentucky Indiana new. Oh Hampshire Maryland. Connecticut Georgia having common healthy. I know this and I don't know this and that's not fair me and restore from Canada. That's okay. We learn a lot of American history in Canada. Yeah I'll have the same time zone. SPRINGDALE NOPE is it. Their capital the city's all the same or is it just. They all have a city with the statement it devastated with his name. Interesting cloth Louis Jail. No we bill. No Dr M Saint Nick. Nope christmas-related right is it. Christmas related Some Trivia Ham arm for him for. I'll give you half a point of a man. It's a close race. uh-huh never searing mindful series only had a thousand points. This Florida town maintains a fully decorated tree year. Round around Brewster Cougar town. No yes I realize that. We're tying town or a town that maintains a fully decorated Christie. Says Not Disneyworld. I mean 'cause if it's correct actually yes disneyworld in southern Florida. Whatever the the town it said Yeah? They would have a fully intrigue around. So I'll give you that quite yet because he didn't name the town. Well if it is a tinseltown no half point for me. It's Orlando Florida after Orlando and then the other half point gazillion wild. Yes Disney enough for this one. I Made Generous holidays. Dinners for all the women are in the lead for I. The answer for this one is Christmas Florida in Florida. Well you said it because you can't say anyone's Disney but I that Catholic saying kill the Game Hostess Bat. I'm I'm just GonNa say we're almost done promise done after reading green. What are the two most popular Christmas colors? Emma White and Dan As another those aren't colors Brennan grain. I know white is shade though technicality shade white is all the color. You don't WANNA say silver. I Wayne Silver Okay. How great silver and gold okay? Yep Yep you're right. The silver and gold song stuck in my head. From Rudolph the red nosed Jane Brent. Yeah and I'll I'll give to delay allowed to because he didn't see where you're he's yeah. I'll give you bowling points. So what popular children's cracker today was introduced in Nineteen ninety-two has a Christmas ornament. Yes nutcracker wrong okay. Her rooster animal cracker. Yes even though. We're don actually cracked here. It's more like a cookie but but it's what the Trivia says final question which. US President barred the Christmas tree from being displayed in the White House. Yes she is turning out there trump. No not yet I now. You probably wouldn't want to spend the money. This president couldn't bear. It don't aren't. I live in Canada. I don't even know the bear was at Teddy Roosevelt. Right Nice Nice Rooster. You stole my lead. Okay so the stores Oh and live while gets it too. I think they should be a bonus question. Oh He did bonus question the place for thousand points and it's just for. I don't have any more questions so scores popping question okay. What color is my shirt red? Long He's wearing a shirt. I Damn Black Green Nope nope black green purple yellow. Oh I have a purple shirt by Kent were Y'all's closer to what it is but it's not you know not orange now we are at it was already done. We've tried all these colors green. It's closer to yellow Brown. I'll give you a full ten thousand points for saying Brown cassettes close enough. It's a khaki color you I said. What's the date for? You'll and then I could be like. Hey It's December twenty first brown bobby less close enough. Yeah okay. Virtues truths score is poppy is fifteen thousand. Five hundred rooster has is thirty. Five hundred. Eighty Emma has thousand Syria. Thousand and leave out has five hundred the man so thank you for joining me on Fresno cast wait wait. I've been drinking this dog. Emma did you spike it. All you with this you know Spicy Brown liquid. Oh that sounds dangerous. That's why I feel so weird. It's not green. It's Spicy Brown spicy. That I could be anybody before before I pass out from Eggnog. Oh what did we find you on the INTERWEBS. We'll start with poppy. I'm you can find me on twitter at poppy. Done Twenty eight and Emma. Where can we find you? You can find me on twitter at lady underscore Emma and that's probably the best place defy me. I'm on instagram. And everything and rooster recommend find you best please is definitely twitter at rooster underscore I r. l.. And with that I. I think we adjourn this festivities Christmas gathering. Forget eat cookies. Just hope. They don't have any brown stuff in it. No agreed that means. They've turned activated. Live aid border. Well I'm back home of iron forge until we one day reclaim number gone home home. I the end of December which means it's time to see what January holds in store for us let's see what the wondrous mysterious riskier excite football so their comedy Wednesday now zero. Thank you for joining us. On the upcoming event for January and world of warcraft darkroom. Fair Starts January fifth to the eleventh last month. You had to go on the real race now. 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20 January, 2021  Episode 808  Science Loves Palindromes!

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20 January, 2021 Episode 808 Science Loves Palindromes!

"This is twists this week in science episode number. Eight hundred eight recorded wednesday january twentieth thousand and twenty. One science loves pailin drums. Hey everybody. I'm dr kiki and tonight on the show we will fill your head with. Old clue goes protection. And hope. But i thanks to the burroughs wellcome fund and patriots sponsors for their generous support of twists. You can become a part of the patriot community at patriotair dot com slash this week in science school disclaimer. Her we are living in interesting times while this is always been through to the people who live in some other times. This day in this age will be especially key interest. Future historians feature historians will be tasked with figuring out how our society's got to where we will be the time when future historians are tasked with figuring out our present future foundation or their future bend. It gets confusing way. We will look back someday on this time and try to figure out what happened. Will this be the age where policy discussions are conducted by people with knowledge. Interesting commitment making a better world this be another arab warned destruction. Will the actions taken by humans. Today lead us to a rational world of reason technological innovation and scientific discovery or will we continue to see truth facts and knowledge furniture discarded in favor of the irving low-information minded faithfully. Foul mouth checklist mobs ekka mentalities will the future historians cringe at our next year's will they rejoice s pioneered the future. They hold their the answer and be found in our recent past. It seems anything can happen. All the possibilities are still laid out in front of us. We are living in interesting times in order. That made more clear and right here on this week in science coming up next to mine i wanna learn everything up with new. Discover happen every day. There's only one place. The knowledge wanna know good sides to you. Justin blair and everyone out there. I just i guess excited to be here tonight on this auspicious eve of pailin. Rome's your one twenty twenty twenty. One is pal andro forward or backward code eight oh eight is also a pal and rome. Say i'm calling backward. It's like the andro mc day. What does it all mean. What is it really wasn't pound grooming etymology of the word but roads are being. That is the same forward and backwards but if you listen to this show backwards. It will not be the same so let's get started from the front and move the back to the end. It's the beginning of another great episode of science. We've got all sorts of great science news today. I have stories about the importance of water cats and mosquitoes and lots of ai. Learning justin what are you have. I have fungal farming ants. He didn't bring functions pulsed laser technology and a duo of been studies twins. Study of it's just two studies will there's at least but they are twins and the microbiome dusting out all right. Suss it out. I like sussing out allergies. Give twins allergies. We'll find out what this bill later. Blair what is in the animal corner. Oh i have a bad news about marine protected area. Sorry i also have rotting food I have hunting emails. And i have a dinosaur but with who stealing. That is a find that special kenyan to logical gold. Mine that we will discuss later. Wow oh i hope we do. We will dig into it later. Good good good but for now for those of you who are not yet subscribed you can find this week in science at our website where we have episodes and show notes. We are also on youtube facebook and on twitch live streaming youtube and facebook look for this week in science on twitch look for twi- science and you can look for this week in science anywhere podcasts or found. Let's dig into that science. Are we ready to do that. Let's do it. Let's do it. I think we're ready okay. I want to start us off with hope. Because today is such a hopeful. Auspicious like i said pal andro mc day but beyond that today was the day that the forty six president of the united states of america was inaugurated and last friday president biden. He wasn't yet as president president. Yes he announced his choice for science adviser and head of the office. The white house office of science and technology policy. Ms person is dr. eric lander. Dr lander was on obama's presidential council of advisors on science and technology and he co led the human genome project which gave us the first sequencing of the human genome and. Mit's broad institute which has been in competition for years for crisper technology against berkeley. He's a he is a firebrand of a scientific leader a bit controversial in some areas. There are questions as to whether he knew epstein in any way shape or form Considering he is in the same echelon of scientists that Epstein gave a lot of money too but he has so far not had many links in that direction and has just shown a an amazing ability to lead to bring the teams together to get science done. So this is exciting. In addition is position has been elevated to the cabinet level for the first time in history. This puts science epa table in the room during important policy discussions so for science very excited hope. Additionally biden's scientific administer administrative team was announced last friday and it consists of a diverse array of well-qualified individuals including science historian a laundry nelson francis arnold and maria zuber francis collins and pay koizumi in a letter remers reminiscent of votes nineteen. Forty four letter to van avar bush. That pretty much set science and technology priorities for the next several decades. We've still it created the national science foundation Really set our priorities for fifty sixty years. You asked lander to advise on public health threats to rise on mitigating the impact of climate change keeping the country a world leader in innovation to use science to improve social equity and strengthening the us research enterprise additionally biden has set forward his one point nine trillion dollar america rescue plan that includes four hundred billion dollars for a national covid. Nineteen vaccination and fasting program based on advice from world blast leaders in public health and science in the hopes. That science will pull us through this. I also mentioned that an hour ago. The united states officially got re entered into the paris climate agreement. What has happened. Today is is historic for Hopefully bringing science back into a a level of import in our government and the policies that are agreed upon by the people in power. I am excited. I am looking forward to seeing what What will be done when we have a fully staffed and fully running office the science knowledge of all this is all very encouraging stuff So you can get back to where we were but then the really important part is to then continue moving forward. Guess let's move forward. Keep making progress backward where we were. Yeah all right. Just didn't tell me about these ants that you like. Oh this at team at t nance eighteen acting ants Our farmers they're farmer ant they grow fungus reshaped for pretty smart one of those things. Do we talk about animal intelligence. Here's agriculture at the ants level. There's a there's some they have some farmhands that helped them do this farming And those farmhands are bacteria and these bacteria use tablets. The fungal crop from passage. Mostly other paris air from parasites but those parasites usually other fungi researchers portland. Acs central science that they have identified. The first shared antifungal compound. Among many these bacteria across brazil can have some medical applications so the teen. They originated some point. Fifty million years ago in the amazon as one species and they have since evolved in sprint across south central america into two hundred different species. All of these ants are doing the fungal farming one of the interesting things. Is that the bacteria that they have have been. Thought to be making the same tablets Will help her molecules so finally though they have discovered common ones across the two hundred species that the majority of at least from region to region which point to a conserve purpose and This is monica. T. bo and john cloudy colleagues. Wanted to find out anything. Antifungal bacteria metabolites with that broader distribution. Have any eventually uses in the study. The bacteria from ant Multiple sites in brazil. The team discovered that nearly two thirds of the sued. The car strains newsday boden anti fungal agent they at the medicine after the ants. The discovery mark first time. They've found his broad geographic distribution. Was sort of interesting that they is. It was used it In fighting in dida abba cans infection in mice in parable to as hitting treatments abuse. Clinically it It worked as well making it actually a potential drug candidate. So here we have. We have this ant. That's doing agriculture. And the bacteria is attracting are creating antifungal agents. Do protect the fungi that they've been farming. That may one day. Dave even lie the welcome answer of south america. Well done with you and your fun guys like a party. That's awesome need. We need all the anti bengals in defined it blair wanna bring us into our next story. Bad news oh no okay. we've got. We've got phone goal hopes to now okay Unfortunately some some real talk from australia looking at the great southern reef this is not the normal. The barrier restocked. No no this is the seven wreath. As specifically looking at the effectiveness of marine protected areas marine protected areas are basically like nature preserves. National parks stuff like that underwater. They are supposed to be protected. Space for marine plants and animals so that they can have undisturbed wild space because just like with animals on land if you allow people to do whatever they want in these spaces. The biodiversity will suffer in a budget. And so this is specifically looking at partially protected areas so there are marine protected areas marine reserves that allows some forms of fishing so they might restrict fishing uncertain species that are of ecological importance or endangered or a used civic place as a breeding ground or any sort of thing like that and so they that is their attempt to create more marine protected areas because it is easier to pitch that and to get it passed and to have compliance. If there's some leniency on the roles is not just stay the heck out period but this research looking This is coming from university of new south. Wales found that these personally protected areas Basically don't help at all. So fully protected areas no take or sanctuary zones have more fish hired by diversity of marine life and they were an attraction to coastal user so there's also ecological Benefits to people being interested in seeing these ecologically rich areas as part of ecotourism which is a whole nother conversation ricky. Get into another time. But what they're saying is that these partially protected areas are considered now by these researchers to be something of a red herring marine conservation because they distract from the more effective protection. Sixty nine percent of marine protected areas are open to some form of fishing and this research found social or ecological benefits for partially protected areas relative to completely open areas. The logical data revealed that fish species richness in biomass higher inflation protected areas but not higher at all in the partially protected when they were one point three times more fish two point five times more fish biomass in three point five times more. Large fish biomass in fully protected areas compared to his but there was not a difference for the partially check area. Part of this like when you have a partially protected area. I'm assuming that you can fish. But the fish has to be over a certain size perhaps otherwise after the kind of thing and then that takes out all the big fish in so then you start creating a manmade natural selection cycle. Where all the big fish genes are being pulled out. And you have you may have fully grown rats that then become the main breeders i dunno be keeping it also probably is just that the marine ecosystem is complicated and some even if there is a species that you that is not declining in number by impacting that species. There could still be trickle effect on the rest of the food web. Not to mention if you're allowing fishing activities period there is bycatch there's disruption. There's all sorts of things that happened to the ecological space as a result of fishing. You're selecting for something that people want. You're not taking a percentage of everything that exists in this. The in this group and depends on how the fishing happens. No i mean. That's always a question you're usually going after a human food fish. And so you're you're not the taste starfish. If you were just thinking we're gonna take ten percent of everything that's there that work we web might still stay relatively intact in the balances might still be there and blake might still go on the way. But if you're just dip leading two or three species Compared to the rest of it becomes a big disrupt but there's that there's also the fact that a lot of fishing techniques are not selective and that's really the other piece of this is you might actually actually be taking ten percent of all biomass without realizing. I think i think that would be fine. I don't think that is the case actually have been better than just being selectively taking off the top feeders or food whatever it is going up. I think it's i think it's interesting to thinking back to your story about pandas from a week or so ago About the the idea of a protected area that's protected for maybe one species as opposed to a broad leave protective area that in in which there are lots of ecosystems or niches that are encompassed in that and out. Does that whole food web. How all those animals interact with each other and if you've got your partially protected food you're protected area. You're not really protecting everything in there. And or if you cut it off at a certain point than things inside get protected and then they swim out there not protected and yeah yeah i mean we. I think we had a story not too long ago on the show where talks about how a marine protected area can actually benefit Fish species that were marine species. Vetter are inhibiting a much larger inhabiting sorry a much larger area than just read protected area because it creates a refuge and that is again it comes back down to just fully protecting specific sanctuary spaces for entire ecosystem. We're gonna do it. Let's do it protect them. I don't know let's protect a whole ocean. That would be good. Young deep-sea miners might have something to say about now. But i wanna talk about catnip and katz. Oh yeah crazy yes. Cats on catnip are totally crazy. And it's really fun to watch your cat freak out when you go ahead and give them a little bit of catnip and researchers have shown that there is a particular compound in the catnip plant That the hats are responding to and it activates the brains. The cat brains opioid remorse system. This was just published in science advances. This week So catnip and silver vine which is a an herb. That's even more potent than at net. It's bound in japan and china than in the mountains so nip peta lack tall. This is the compound that is responsible. The pedal lack hall. It gets in there. It activates the opioid reward system in. Your cat is actually becoming. Hi it's a psychoactive state. The researchers wanted to know exactly what was going on there and they also. There was some other research that found that this compound. This napoleonic tall is also an insect repellent repellent right up there with deet in how useful it is and so the researchers were like. I wonder what will happen if we cover cats in pedal lack tall and then stick their faces in a terrarium full of mosquitoes out. They wanted to know the answer. The question of do the cats us do cats. Just use catnip because it excites them and gives them a high or do they use it because it also has an insect repellent property and it turns out but they can't answer this question completely. Because you can't ask a cat how they evolved this nip relationship but when they had cats that these cats were sedated and they stuck them in the mosquito chamber if they had been rubbed in lebanon pedal lactone half of the mosquitoes amount of mosquitoes attack them. So pats many be wildcats even may be using at nap and silver vine. Not just because it makes them happy but because it gives the biting and scratching insects away but is one an unexpected byproduct of the other. That's what right. So you could you. Could you distill out catnip. That doesn't have mosquito repelling powers and see if cats still mess with it right if they would still use it. They haven't done that. And that would be a very interesting next step in the in the research one aspect of it though is they gave the cats no lock zone which is a drug that inhibits the effects of opioid. So how this is my next question. Yes and the cats are like. I'm fine. I don't need to rub on the catnip also the nord it. They ignored the cat. Once they had been given an opioid blocker. So it kind of sounds like the mosquito repellent unintended bonus it. That's it seems as though it is and maybe it is this physiological impact and then perhaps cats apps recaps these cats Enjoy enjoy the benefits of insect repellents inside effect but this is still a question under investigation. But it's very interesting. These researchers though have moved forward into patenting at a mosquito insect repellent that uses this new pedal act great. Yep still picturing of course. It's like a spanish. Fold cat with the squishy faced in the no Booby ears just getting stuck into a box full of mosquitoes face first. Sleepy sleepy sedated. Cats bontemps are picturing the barbecue with the tiki torches made from this compound. And so like. It's he's him scares away and then suddenly all the neighborhood cats coming around her. Yes the whole neighborhood goes up in flame pratt repellent coyote or whatever that you sprinkle around the yeah that's it. It's a fun study into this fun. Effect that we that we enjoy with our cats and who knew there is a little bit of a real benefit. Besides your cats getting breezy. all right. Tell me about these twins. This is a study out of University of chicago on prince assets of twins so instead to twins is that so the air imagine the thank to not four because it i that you went two sets of twins so the thing is like twin if it was just a study on twenty six twins you don't know if it's both of them or one person who happens to be a very and there's also to these so it's very confused okay. Now we're at fifty two okay. But they would. They selected for our was a sexy twins. The two peoples who had food allergy went. Who did not do this is results are being published republished earlier this week in the journal of clinical investigation the study grew out of prior research in the nagara laboratory university of chicago on beagle micro biota air transplants in infants. So they dictated the fecal microbes from healthy food Allergic booth dish help and food allergic infants. And they transported them into mice would happen turned out the healthy infants infants. Who didn't have food allergies. Were able to pass that on the mice. Though there's something in the micro biota that is allergy. That was fascinating study in this study. This is quoting catherine. Nadler professor mike molecular generic university of chicago. In this study we looked at a more diverse population across a large range of ages by studying twin pairs benefit examining genetically identical individuals. Who grew up in the same environment which allowed us to begin to parse out the influence of genetic and environmental back from two after a little conference. Nagla ran into harry naidu And they decided to collaborate on a project they didn't had been conducting a study on On the epigenetics food allergies had already collected samples from wins steady participants lab then jumped in doing sequencing on the samples collected from thirty degrees thirteen pairs of twins within without food allergies as well as an additional five pairs of twins. Were both wins. Had at least one research team looked at which microbes present in fecal samples is where does the metabolites metabolic products of microbes. And i also looked at some stuff from the house. Dietary sources looked at a whole bunch of His nagla again. We desperately needed biomarkers to understand. The immuno regulatory function of intestinal bacteria have lights clues as to what bacteria are doing mechanically the regulate the immune response. This approach identified sixty or distinct sets of bacterial species and metabolites that are set apart from between healthy and the allergic group So starting to dig into the shins of ruined down to the population of bacteria and their metabolites creating That are different from one case that the kids also at the question of whether it's genes leading to that Leading to that gut ecosystem or whether or not. It's what you eat. And so what what people have eaten over a long period of time could lead to these discrepancies healthy got versus allergic gut. And then you can then. We can drill down and take genetics out of the question. Right is that what's happening. There was that one study. We did several years ago. That was all about dishwashers. Remember that where there was. There were more food allergies in homes. That had dishwashers. This is this is in. Gosh i wanna say. It was a danish study it was. It was somewhere scandinavian for sure but it was It was an interesting question of then. How much exposure actually has to do with it which would feed into the microbiome. of course. okay it's nutrition. You are what you eat. That determines every third of the on. Genetics comes no your genes determine everything. It's not what you eat. It's that's not enough. It's also an hour getting. We're like whoa backup deans. You got nutrition. you're also important present. Thanks but actually it's the crew onboard. Spaceship you your gutten. Actually pulling the levers in determining what your health is based on what if you think about how like so. Koalas eucalyptus the way that they can get. That done is because babies eat their parents who that gives that the seeded like volume. They need to eat eucalyptus and process it. So this is you know. Kind of related to exposure. We were talking about exposure before we were talking about how clean things are in your house. Maybe that's actually. I mean it sounds gross but like you know trae speeco material. Let's getting into your body because it has like her bio to seed your gut have a show the couch with your family. Maybe nestle has. An animal eats a large amount of their their hair. I'm sure i get cat hair on me all the time. I also have my family that i live with and we are sharing things constantly and anything that becomes hand to mouth is potentially introducing new bacteria even an apple. Or you know you don't completely wash a piece of fruit or And there's so many ways to populate your or if you're not somebody who if you don't eat yogurts or if you're not somebody who eats prebiotics like fiber rich foods that allow bacteria grow you. Eat a lot of sugar in your diet. He's are all things that are going to impact that population. But it's an interesting idea that you could reverse food allergies with perhaps different micro biota which is kind of plug dr justin's not a real doctor from kills algae pre except for except bell peppers. So gentlemen is just again. I if it's an allergy disgust. I think just inherent disgust that press. So this is a dispersed author writing of fifty now This those y- faster medicine. University of pittsburgh narrow down from thousands of bacteria's the civic species is candidates or future therapeutic interventions one dimension. Data's not now bringing together data for multiple dimensions. Is the key in our study. We harness the benefits of both high throughput microbiome sequencing and metabolic profiling techniques. We were able to nominate two specific species each involved in distinct metabolite pathways in be prioritized as potential targets for future research and therapeutic interventions for food allergies. You ever buy says we can't say this is causing effect relationship yet. This one of those part of it. It's part of it made. This is how you know where to look right. We can say there's an association with disease. Now we can start to ask. What does this make feature get your research. Projects are of course being planned on this. But how amazing would it be. Were were all those folks out there who are suffering from one or two or multiple significant allergies. Their help is on what about people who are suffering from infections. We talked you talked about your new anti-fungal ants but what about the possibility of either creating new antibiotics or refreshing antibiotics to get over bacterial resistance. New study in nature chemical biology out of the university of illinois chicago. A couple of different labs republican nov and alexander. Minkin have been working together for several years on antibiotic resistance and they've been specifically focusing on a group of antibiotics that are called. Mac relies and macaroni. Include antibiotics like as a throw. Maya cin arith- ramaya sen Think there's more in there claire. Three miocene they're all the masons the sins and we win. The researchers started this recent investigation They they started digging into the structure of the bacterial ribot zone. It's been known for a while that mac relied 's bind to the ribot zone somehow they the drug binds to the riot zome and prevents new proteins from being made so the bacteria can't grow they can't replicate reproduce and but no new bacteria your body is able to defend itself and you get better but what happens with bacterial resistance. There is a molecular change mutation that shifts the structure. Somehow so the antibiotic and get in there and bind the right zome anymore and so they wind high resolution and looked really really closely at what was happening. What they discovered is that the the structure of the ribot zome was becoming die methylated. That means there's a little part one of the amino acids that's in the rival zome that got two methyl groups to see each three groups added to it where before there was none and as they were looking into this change and what that meant they discovered that water is the binding agent for the antibiotic be able to bind to the ri- zome that win that those methyl groups aren't there water can come in and because of its polar nature bind to the rival zome and then the antibiotic grabs on. And that's how the the catch is made but the mutation that allows that methylation than keeps water from being able to bind and the riva's zone can no longer attach and so now. These researchers are thinking very exciting. Thought they are thinking that they will be able to move forward and hopefully Hopefully be able to bre- eight new Antibiotics or be able to go in and refresh antibiotics to enable them to get around. This methylation problem that water and remain the binding agent. But it's so great. It's just amazing to me. This one little change. It's not a huge change. This one little change that just keeps water from getting in there like no water. Nope nope not today. Water mazing and that is what is threatening an entire group of antibiotics brown being useful anymore but now we have a direction to go and it is. This is a completely different model from what has been hypothesized in the past though it's completely new direct. Go new antibiotics but be great. Dig in their dig in there to those molecules dig into that science. This is this week in science. We are here with our science. Thank you for joining us once again. If you are interested in was shirt or a sweatshirt sweatshirt on today you can head over to twist dot org and click on the zaza store link browser store and help support show. Thank you for listening twists. All right everybody ready to come back and talk about cova Oh no oh well. you're right proceeding. Thanks i would love to give you good news but the news just keeps kind of being a little depressing. A variant has been discovered in brazil and was reported this last week that this variant we've talked before about some of the variants that were discovered in the uk and south africa this new variant though instead of making transmission higher. What it seems to have done is escaped from an antibody immunity. What's what this means. Is that people who have had the virus who have had the disease previously getting infected again because it had escaped from the antibodies that the body their bodies had produced in in response to the infection. And this is one of the issues that we have discussed with relation to this virus. Is that as the vaccine. Effort is going out. We're trying to raise the clock. The mutation block To get people vaccinated so that the virus will go down to low levels in the population and not really be as much of a problem as we said the more that it spreads the more that it mutates the more the chance that it will escape from vaccine immunity which is a very similar thing but the vaccine immunity is very specific to the spike protein. Well and if we had done a better job of controlling community spread than even if there were localized variants than you could kind of isolate and in control spread of that specific variant. But because it's just kind of all going everywhere unbridled right now it's very very difficult to isolate and restrained spread of new variants very difficult and so hope hoping that around the world vaccine rollout in go more smoothly more quickly and also here in the united states that we can. We can institute more tracking and testing so that we are more aware of what kinds of variants are showing up in our population at a much more high resolution level than we currently are able to see it would be pretty amazing but regardless of all this human behavior is the cause of the spread of the virus. People people moving around that is how the virus spreads right. We go out. We breathe on each other and so there have been some studies. One Coming this this study here One study out of the journal of econometrics looked at the causal impacts of masks policies behavior on early covid nineteen pandemic in the united states there. conclusion was that. If the united states had adopted a national mask mandate early in the pandemic forty seven thousand lives could have been saved before may first and if you want to extrapolate that out do what we're dealing with right now. You can do that. Math yourself to go into that And then additionally a paper in the lancet out this week it's separate from a mask mandate but just relied on personal reports of equals mask use and social distancing. They were able to correlate those behaviors down to local regional levels and improved control of the sars lovie to viral spread in those areas. So more people in a particular region reported wearing masks and social distancing better the that region seemed to fare in terms of the number of people in fact. So i don't know how to say it any other way as long as the vaccine rollout is happening. It is not the silver bullet. There was another another study. That i couldn't find this that i think i lost the link to it but the logic makes sense you can save more lives by people continuing to wear masks and social distance than by focusing on high priority. Vaccinations when you vaccinate somebody. You are vaccinating and protecting that one person. When you wear a mask you are protecting everyone. You coming exit though the math there the report that in your mind when you're going out there and maybe you can You know as the vaccine roll it happens. Talk to your friends. Talk to your family. Try and find out if they are hesitant about masks or social distancing how what could help them to potentially adopt that behavior a little bit more because we can help each other. I mean i get it. Everybody's sick of it. I'm sick of it. It sucks it also. We all wish we could be with each other. We wish we could eat out at restaurants with our friends and family. I get it but you can't just give up. You can't just give up. i am seeing that. And it's really frustrating. And i won't go on and on about it but in my community in my apartment complex i think we have like a ninety five percent compliance of social distancing mask wearing for the last six eight months ever since they started telling us where mass but in the last month it has dropped off where it is unusual. Now if i see someone wearing a mask and keeping their space for me when we were making really bad i am. It's the worst isn't gonna numbers but the worst it's been in compliance. I have seen anecdotally. And i really really just feels like people are just sick of it. They're just giving up. But you can't give it up because if someone hasn't died yet you know that doesn't mean it's not going to happen but just needs it hasn't happened yet and you need to protect those people around you. Yep protected orioles around you very frustrating. And it's it's kind of of like. I like i've talked about a talked about it as an analogy to like running a marathon before. But maybe it's like rolling stone up a hill and we're about halfway three quarters up an you know past the halfway mark but we're pushing that stone up the hill and suddenly we're just like stone is is gonna roll right back down to the bottom of we're gonna start all over again and i don't want to do that. Mardi grant i read remains the same as it has for the last nine months ten months. I don't push the stone you outside pushing stones up hills. Everybody and john If we could if we can be over oh we can't afford it. The how's that working out. Has that working out the half mitch. How's that working out for everybody. I mean people wearing masks. you're steven reign. Saying kind of like the mask haven't been sick for about a year and a half. And we are seeing people wearing masks and social distancing blue rates are going down home in cold rates are of. This is working a bit. It's just this virus is more infectious than those things. And so that's the problem but we just have to keep it up Can do it we can do it. We we can do it by helping each other. Having conversations that are hard conversations. But we've come this far or you've come this far your family. Your friends have come this far. Stop now i mean this. This measure being fatigued and like i'm so tired i'm going to go commit suicide. That's just terrible. I don't give up. Hey wait. I'm yet to comment on his. But the first story you brought seemed indicate there even if you ben vaccinated you might at some point me to get a new vaccination of different vaccination later because simply odds as it depends going going possibly. It's not a for sure thing but these mutations happen all over different parts of the virus and you off some of these mutations than the be one one seven virus have have led to increase transmission also. The south african virus has mutations in. What's called the five. Oh that's as the five zero one. Y dot v. two variance In this mutations at e. Four eight four k and k for seven four one seven n just locations in the virus. These are changes in the surface protein spike and have been shown to reduce how well monoclonal antibodies combat the virus additionally there is also e four four. Hey which reduces the potency of convolute convalescent sierra from some donors tenfold So these different variants. These differ mutations. They have differing effects. It depends if we are using the spike protein for the virus for the vaccine at this point in time. That's what all of the vaccines are. Spike protein so of mutations occur in the spike protein that change it enough that your body no longer recognizes it as it has created protection for against then it could potentially escape So far and the thing about like natural immunity that your body could pri is like. I'm i'm going to create an antibody for the finger i'm gonna create an antibody for hair. I'm going to create an antibody against this thing your body's just creating whatever it sees and comes in contact with be an antibody for for in the lab it's been escaping it can But but at this point in time the vaccines that we are rolling out are still good for her yes virus in your neighborhoods back steam. Adam it will work. It's still works. We may have to change some of these vaccines to reflect mutations in the future this could be a yearly vaccination depending on how fast mutation rates go this. Who knows we are still. We don't know enough about this virus which reminder. That's how flu shots work. So that's already getting. Are you getting. Her are ovid and flu shots. All in one. Maybe who knows who knows. But let's move on. Let's move on away from our sad. Iggy cova news. This is this week in science. Thank you for spending your time with us. We do appreciate you being here for these discussions and for science. If you liked twist please share twist with a friend today as become back now. We're all come back now. You hear it is time. It's time that part of the show. We love to go blair. Don't that can accept. I have speaking of vicki. I have a really good story but it's actually really cool. It's about beatles. Yeah that are scavengers. So just like possums maggots vultures. They are competing with all these other animals to eat dead stuff and this is a recent study from university of connecticut looking at burying beetles which are pretty big beatles there about an inch long. They're black with orange markings and they have really cool way of packaging dead staff for their babies to eat later They actually spread. Gut secretions all over a carcass. And they roll it up into a big delicious blush ball covered in goop. That sounds super appetizing. Dead mouse will take a bird dig a hole and bury it a plug expert or its feathers the roll it into a flesh ball and cover it with lucas. Who but why do they do it. It is it has previously been assumed that it has to do with delaying the decomposition of this food. So they're basically keeping it fresh. Even that freshly did stow Fresh and so the the new kind of hypothesis was actually. It was to reduce competition amongst scavengers as well so the way that they kind of tested. This was so anecdotally they kind of thought that there were less. They're less maggots. There were less other creatures kind of going after this dead decomposing gooby young but so the way that they actually tested this scientifically is they collected the gases wafting off the dead hairless mice and the researchers and compare the gases from those that were preserved by these beetles to those from untouched carcasses the beatles the beetle prepped carcasses. Gabe off much less of a gas that they describe as onion smelling then That in that usually attracts the bearing beatles to the fresher remain they also discovered the increase in another gas from decay that is known to deter insects. The beat on dead animals were building up on these propped orchises. The next step of course was to drop off dead mice in connecticut for us and to see how they were found if they were found if they were devoured by other animals in the forest and they found that the beatles rivals were less likely to discover the ones covered in go. Yeah so here's why this is interesting kind of like the catnip story from earlier this dual purpose thing that these beetles are doing is one side effect of the other. What is happening here did they do. They spread it with this goop to preserve it and then it just so happens that it became less desirable to other animals or were they hiding it from other animals and also surprise preserved the meat or is it a dual purpose that from the start. We're not always one of those questions. Yeah did adjust it all happened together or is it. Yeah and the goop protects it. Great dare i ask. Should i cover my food. And google to protect it. From from brian no more coveted smelly goo. Then nobody else in my home would know it existed including the duck but really it'd be about preserving the food you see so actually no jokes aside. You could potentially see a practical use of this as you could in theory find something about this goop. It is so good at preserving meat that you could apply to human boot right beef jerky without being jerky fish. You could also find something in the smell that deters other animals and use it in some sort of a pest abatement czar a masking the center of the decay from the thing it would want to. I don't think that's a good question is is it masking it is it converting it or is it. Is it eliminating it. Sounds like there's less of one smell but there's more of another but could be both but if you've got something big and you need to eat it so we know that some animals like mountain lions will bury their dead. They will cover dead animals in a bit. They'll eat a little bit. Cover them up and then come back and feed off of the corpse for a while so you know if it's sitting there and it's being preserved and it's also preventing it from being eaten by other animals. You have your storing food. It's like a refrigerator or a a. You know a seller. You're putting it underground. Yeah this is good but the group. I wouldn't know what the group is made of. So do i. And what are know what is in the goop in cooking. You ever done the Where you you put You take duck fat or chicken you can take chicken fat or turkey fabric you take you take duck fat and you overnight you sit or to baby like a couple of days you sit like a champion or something in it and let it sit for like a day or two and then you cook it at a very low temperature like super low temperature at its. This chicken is amazing. it's delicious. I guess you know missing egede -tarian. There's that but also just like salmonella soup anyway. it's no the fat. The fat preserves the meat for awhile and so it sits and preserves it a bit but then you cook it and it. There is something to the goop that you put your your burden cook. It's that's what it's called the emirates in greenman Have a fermented bird. Ish consists of small whole throwing. The burden is put in iraq over it and coming back a month later. Oh my god oh boy. He's thinking about ways to prepare. Humans are no different. I'm sure acuras. That's goop food is probably more sanitary than a lot of i wanna know what's in the beetle goop. We chilling conclusion. Do you want to be further horrified. I have another for you. This is about electric heels hunting. In groups not scary. Akron thing electric eels. Yes oh this is a study from sicilians national museum of natural history and this is looking in the brazilian amazon river basin and they discovered a small river fed lake filled with more than one hundred adult electric eels. Many of which were upper Long of course. Electric eels are not true. Eels a type of knife and they have previously thought to be solitary. They witnessed the is working together to hurt. Small fish tetras into tightly packed balls and then groups of ten eels would split off for two tenures. Wheels split off form cooperative hunting parties. That looks kind of like wolf. Pack hunting or killer whale off hunting and they surrounded the pray ball the ball. Tetris launched simultaneous tax. Which would stunned the tetris into submission. Actually it would stun them so hard that they would fly out of the water and smack back into the water totally stunned. And yes. So they're running. Finding it's stunning shocking. Even cam but is there. So the the crazy thing here is first of all pack hunting in fish very rare. There's only been nine species of fish seen to do this on planet or possibly because we're not very good at studying fish in their natural habitats in a lotta ways. There's a lot under the ocean we don't know about so perhaps just we haven't found them yet but ultimately this is a new thing. There's only nine other species at this time that have been found to do pack dig and they they. I thought they thought it was totally anecdotal. And maybe just a fluke august twenty twelve but then as they were studying the amazon river basin. They in october twenty fourteen. They found it again. They settled down. They logged seventy two hours of observations of these in this river. And this is at johner dusk. In the twilight hours they would interact with each other. They begin swimming a large circle. This turning circle would move these tetris into tighter and tighter. Shoals into these balls they heard them from deeper into the lake into shallower ends of the lake and then they would. Some of them would break off. Do the shocking thing in the tetris would go flying. It took about an hour and contained between five to seven high-voltage attacks so this is something as it yeah like two points. Make a line right at this point. They'd be like it's definitely happening. How widespread this phenomenon is is kind of up to question because in terms of interviews with locals all over the amazon abbreviation. There hasn't really been reports of this and you would think that hundred emails shocking in groups in kind of shallow water like deep water. You'd hear about that from locals. Yeah they really had so. There's a chance that this is pretty localized pretty individual pretty unique but it also is possible. That people just aren't seeing it so this is a whole new thing that they're looking at. They've launched a new citizen science program to try to locate. If there's more of these aggregations happening in this society project allows users to report sightings log observations themselves in brazil and Their next up is they hoped to collect tissue samples and mark individual ears deals with radio tags to understand if they're related at all. There's a genetic information passing thing happened happening. If these groups are related to each other in that so hang out if there's hierarchy and they want to take direct measurements of electrical discharges in order to see their maximum voltage determine whether eels might also be using low voltage Yuna kate with each other to orchestrate these kind of complicated offense. I'm looking at that. That little bit of we replaced up there and you can see the fish in the middle of getting circled by one. Group of ios has the looks like cornered up against the shore somewhat and then on the outlet there. There's a couple of years hanging back. And why are they hanging back. It looks like in case anybody breaks parameter if the perimeter they lose containment. They have some backups. That are waiting the like a defensive backs or a safety in a waiting back there for the run game escaped the front line. They're ready. They're to regain containment and it. I mean it really lunged orchestrated like how you'll castrated those. yeah the last of the study also is they do plan to collect eight to ten ills and bring them into facility in germany where they can conduct controlled tests and that then they could later replicate in the field as well so this seems like a pretty well designed effort to figure out exactly what is going on here and one of the. The researchers does mention that they've been they've been shocked by these ills plenty of times in their processes and the shock lasts about two thousands of the second but is enough to cause a painful muscle. Spasm that could knock a person off their feet and this is one eal. What a fun bunch. Yeah already reading her. You our we'll so let's hope that the smithsonian national museum of natural history fish research associate see david Tana can use his His expertise his previous shocking experience and his A laboratory electric eels to find out. Exactly what skill i. One must story in the annual corner that i had to add last minute. Is this breaking news. This is that the first dinosaur butthole ever discovered zero has been analyzed. I'm sorry the clue equal then of dinosaurs. What's been it's a butthole like a bird. But yes so so slowly got is the all in one as it is so it's The woman urogenital tract. Yes it alls yes it has the reproductive stuff it has all the exits there And it actually comes from the latin word for sewer. So that's that's the coca reptiles birds have it. Amphibians have fish habit. Lots of animals have fluid is where one of the unlucky ones do you. Not the khloe. Though is the muscular chain. The usually what you see actually superficially is called a bent which is where there's the partying in the scales or where the the the area that opens to allow for the exit of various items so anyway That also means that there's not a lot of apparent physiological difference externally between males and females. There's no external genitalia. It's a lot harder to tell for example with dinosaurs unless there's some other sort of diamorphine like males have these gite females. Do not or something like that. It's a lot harder to tell male and female dinosaurs of art in in in paleontology because of that so anyway regardless this is just the most perfect preserved luek the the just. It's the best these researchers have ever seen. This is not a peer reviewed article it was not published in a journal. This is really just the breaking news that this thing has been discovered and looked at so what i'm got to tell you our ideas from some scientists based on observing this perfectly preserved. Luica all right so first of all. They're these two small bulges by the back area which are very reminiscent of musk or scent. Glands that we currently see in crocodilians so that's a good idea that attentively. These dinosaurs had that so this Sorry the type of dinosaur which did not say is Sorace which is a bristly-tailed labrador sized. Which already i'm in horrid fleets dinosaur and it was a relative of ceratops they lived in the cretaceous period from about one hundred and forty five million years ago to sixty five million years ago somewhere in there and it was founded china specimen there. Previously studying to look at skin color is so they were trying to find proteins and other identifiers where they could extrapolate. What color because Contrary to the bedsheets books and sweatshirts. I had as a child. Oh and my chuck taylors They are not orange and purple pay. They were anyway this klay on on this little labrador size horn face dinosaur. The silica sorace was so well preserved so first of all they think they saw these scent glands but also they They were able to see. There's actually a preserved poop in it. Aqap relate yes so they think they might be able to get some information out of that I'm sure they will end the other crazy thing. Is that the outer regions of this. Khloe had a darker shade of melanin than the rest of the underside of this dinosaur. So either was a type of visual display like in babboons or an and potentially it could provide antimicrobial protection. And this is where i was not aware of this piece of science that exists which is that in humans. There's melanin in certain parts of the body that never sees the light of day. I know where your brain is thinking. That's where my brain was thinking as well but actually they are referring to the liver the liberal of melon and that somehow helps it with microbial infection. So that's the other thing. Here is the third. Yeah so that's all very interesting. But anyway just as our clue weak- they don't was a male or female because they're the soft reproductive tissue that would be inside were not preserved and so they're not sure what what sex it was God you that this melanin in and they have the scent glands. The other thing is based on the shape. Location all this other stuff. They think that they also had popular tori sex so not just a egg-laying are not not just link. Little kiss waco you birds. They just press. They're clo acres together. But then they're they. There is actually popular sex which is when an organ exits. the clue ak- completely in more standard stuff. So anyway that's what they think but but who knows it again. This was all this is all pre publication free peer review. This is all just kind of conjecture based on this free preserved but it's you can't call it that because it's like the swiss army knife of all the down their stuff but just in there's a poop in it. I think we'll have to call this in this case that's the function. it was probably about the render. You don't wanna be out. Jere is being anti fun. All right wait it. Winds just in the science fund. Police i know what happens. I i love the idea. Also of How many birds have displays where they offer up their tail feathers or they have some kind of display dance where their tail feathers go up or the expand their wings where there's where there's a dance where they strut their stuff and yeah show off those tail feathers so yeah. I'm imagining this. Labrador sized bone faced dinosaur national. Doing a dance display in showing off. Its hind orders to mate Could be more dino butts. We need more data on this gas. Yes i want to hear more about the poop. Am i the only one who else did they analyzed not yet. Oh that's gonna be awesome. I the poop will get analyzed and it will probably have metabolites of hormones. That'll probably have evidence of food. That was eaten. There'll be so much information in that hoop. We will know what that dinosaur had been up to. Now i don't know and maybe if they have other bones they could. I don't know what what what the rest of the fossil is like. And what they have but if they have other other individuals there's the possibility of determining whether or not it's male or female based on comparative anatomy. And yeah being an pelvic shape and things like that so there even though it the soft tissues the genitalia of von away There is potentially other fish and i know they have to use the fossil for for real science. But when they're done. May i just suggest handles chocolate. Because those are things that currently are done with the darier of individuals what are yet blend. Yes it is. We'll talk about the after show. But there's there's impressions that are taken from areas yet is chocolates. There was a lot of news about allen is coming up. That's nevers also so i'm just saying how cool would it be to have a dinosaur julia candle i could buy. That's all i'm saying. Justin rubbing is is more coffee. Anything about read candle holder form. Then you know did more in the after shift just didn't don't go anywhere. 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It is time for you to tell us about grains talk about brain of the straight talk about human brains civically which has about as many neurons as lille cells and lille says are then broken up into four major groups. You have the micro. The astra sites n. g. two and only godin only good vendors sites all denver sites. Yes so what he do. Alexander sites do they are support cells for the For the brain these are all astor sites. Only get under sites are part of the brain's immune system. They are part of short distance electrical transmission. We are learning though much more about these cells that we just thought were like packing peanuts in the brain for a really long time the only vendor sites that's the insulation around accidents around the electrical current sending what the wraparound acts on which are the extension nerve cells which send electrical impulses this wrapping prevents short circuits satellite Forwarding and very few or fires started by accident because the remains yet. So these are the When they wrap the neurons are all mile it the mile in sheath and also of the neurons that gets damaged in multiple sclerosis. This is Professor christian dane. Hauser from this do so neurosciences university of bonn germany. We have now been able to show that olea. Denver sites play an important role in the distribution of energy. Rich molecules compound nutrition. Doing more than even though they're not sending electrical currents themselves things like they are rand. Sporting partially converted sugar. The energy energy rich molecules that power these neurons even live. This is apparently this. Is the cody voice hausa. This is apparently especially true in a particular brain region the fatima. Now it's a the router the brain Like all your sensory signals come in from the eyes the ears the skin it gets forwarded like an email that you program that you haven't used ever but you still want to get some of the emails remnants forwards year your new fords everything to the respective responsible senators industry or cash to do the actual analysis input. That's when we realized oh information is coming in when it gets to. The final is controlling like rats. Birthing those long to ask sites in form close connections. Abc's into cellular networks through tunnel like coupling molecules can migrate from install. Neither these gap junctions years ago. Steinhaeuser colleagues were able to show that there are also alexander sites in these networks in dallas about as many as the cells for a huge network in this way which is called the anglian cross or in other regions however networks consist predominantly of coupled s site. We wanted to know why this is different. Those dr cameo Boost equity voice. Sounds very much like our skin states at the high energy compounds traveled through this network from the blood vessels to the synapses and the only dentists teen to be indispensable in this process. So they it. In mice and mice jurmala bills were no longer able to reach synapses. Insufficient quantities as the though aside lack appropriate action links. The dow is apparently sells for transport. Thank out as it's just an additional function to a part of the of the brain. The little wrapping. It's doing more heavy lifting than we thought it was more than just instilling feel like with the brain. That's the more we study the more we learn more. It's like oh it's so much more complicated. There's these cells are doing this thing here and they're doing this thing here and yeah. If the more we learn about it scares me. It feels more like a bunch of domino's zinc you mess one thing up. There is a bit of that but because of redundancy in the network nature of the neurons. There's there's wiggle room yes yes. There's there's failsafe slurs. Yeah there's other stuff they can can compensate. Give it enough time and it does feel very interconnected intense but Findings like this the cells that we used to think really didn't have much of a function at all to discover that they have these these really important support roles that allow or normal neural transmission to take place that they are there to support. And make sure that all the that you need nutrition. i've got nutrition. You didn't need it sport. I got that for you. Those are like the the wheels. Are there like the cheerleaders at the side of the road the marathon. Here's your here's your energy juice okay. And they're they're really able to do more than we thought. Once upon a time and they are involved in a lot of disease and by understanding these aspects in their support roles. We'll be able to understand better. How they're how they where things go wrong and how we can fix them story. Blazers didn't get any better than lasers. Where are they getting over. That room hosts laser. Supposedly is exactly what you think it is. It's the laser that's going on and off and on and off and on off Meeting light Time blinking on and off. They actually can add this advantage of being able to focus more energy than a continuous wave. Laser whose intensities kept unchanged. Don't really understand why that is but you can do it on visit about this signatures are loaded can be loaded into a pulsed laser each pulse could be encoded data and you can transmit eighty with high repetition rate. Of course the more data you wicker. You can transfer across the thing so far. Though optical fiber based host lasers typically have limitations in increasing the number of pulses per second above the megahertz level. Though it's cool but it's not really going anywhere hasn't for awhile. Intel the institute of science and technology. Kiss denigrate act announced that the research team led by senior researcher. Dr young one song at the center for optoelectronic materials and devices was able to generate laser pulses at a rate ten thousand times higher than the current steve. The well do oh well. This achievement was copied by inserting a is dishes. Resonator containing graphene into fiber optic post laser isolated operates demane of brim owed bento seconds with a little thing in the middle that helped like filter research. Transmission processing speeds are expected to increase significantly by playing this methods data communications in the future. Though it's it has to do with something called a four year transform. A resonator is inserted into the laser oscillators. The wave length of the pulse. Laser is periodically filtered. And they're modifying the pattern of blazer intensive care chain. Why does that work degree visit. Tommy is really. Here's does you need to know that. It went from megahertz Fifty seven point eight gigahertz repetition rate completely overcoming limitations previously on pulse lasers. It's also the edition characteristic of the graphing. They're using such that heat is locally generated when the lakers absorbed was exploited. Then turn the characteristic of the graphing resonator by applying an additional laser to that device the lack of lasers ultrafast pulse laser. Resonating technology is Things can be faster. Smaller wicker meaner. It's going to increase the googling speed at this point. I don't need five g. We need ten thousand g give increase. How fast you can confuse your cat with. The laser pointer thinks that take long rendering or downloading pipes. There still are these places that you can get into for data transfer in the rest that take what people today think is long but by people who took a minute and then you know the kids today like minute of my life is gone from not playing no video game my. Yeah but ten thousand times does sound like an writable edible especially if it can be you know. We're getting into the age of machine learning and we're talking about data sets that would require recall even being able to feed the projections that we have for what what machine learning is capable is being able to feed that beast the data that makes it worth having machine. Learn difficult urged impossible at this point. Yeah in the. We're also if we also think about from aside from a science data transfer irrespective We have limitations related to how much information weaken take from our large data installations like lie. Go in virgo like The like sern like so many other of these massive scientific experiments that are producing oud amounts of data. And if you can transfer them more quickly that would make cloud computing for of Massive data computational efforts potentially be easier. I mean i'm just. I'm just imagining how that could work Additionally we know that Quantum quantum not quantum computing but Thinking about doing quantum computer communications and taking data from an beating quantum communication networks Perhaps this could im- make more. There's also as seen in all the fields working in biometrics iran's genetic data there's all demented this amount of information that is being work with as the raw material and if we ever have to download the entire climate change database from the government ever again. It'll happen faster. I don't have to do that. I don't think it'll be a problem for Speaking of data and what we do with it how about teaching computers how to deal with their own data. How do we do that. Well researchers have been advancing at a particular paradigm of a algorithm training that is known as general generalized adversarial networks and classrooms of the future might have personalized curricula for students created by algorithms that learn themselves from these generalized adversarial networks. That train neural networks. The solve problems and do things in a generalized network. What happens you get adversaries you you set up. One neural network to be the trainer. Who's going to give something an image or a problem. That's going to start the training process. And then you have the learner. Who is going to try and learns and it's adversarial because the training algorithm gets harder as it goes or rise to shallan jr the learning algorithm to actually learn and do better kind of like education as it works in humans. And that's really interesting because this is with neural networks anyway so these adversarial networks the trainer and you have the learner these researchers just published or presented on their new training paradigm the there from university of california berkeley. That's called paired. And they couple. They're a ai. With an identical a i that has a different set of strengths that you have the antagonised and the learner and then they have a third artificial intelligence algorithm design a world. That's going to be easy for the antagonists but hard for the protagonists and so the the task uses these two agents back and forth to to challenge a little bit and it gets personalized based on. It's not just here do this task and not knowing what's going on the training and tag actually go. You're not getting that right. Let's let's fix this process a little bit for you and and we'll we'll help you learn by figuring out what exactly it is. You don't understand if you could imagine the ai talk each other in this particular way though they had Their programs reach a destination by navigating a to d grid that had a bunch of solid blocks in it and the agent. The program has to the. I program has to get better at being able to go through that maze. Basically through trial and error. But they be when the when the maps were too hard to get through in the ai. Couldn't solve it. They used this paired procedure. And the protagonist attempted some difficult mazes if it trained using the two older methods the protagonist didn't get it didn't learn anything but with paired it started solving the mazes though it started actually learning when it wasn't learning before all the researchers used a virgin of version of paired the teach an ai to fill out web forms and book a flight and with traditional neural network adversarial training. It failed all the time but when used with the paired method it succeeded about fifty percent of the time so this paired technique they ended up setting it to An ai on two hundred twenty five problems that no computer had ever been able to solve and their agent solved. Eighty percent of those problems That had never been solved before by computers. And these are not you know. These aren't problems that are like these weird computer problems. That computer programmers try to use to determine whether or not their program is working But the fact that they were able to solve these problems that had never been solved before using this new training. Method is really interesting. And they're thinking about ways that they can incorporate this new training methods which is really. It's like a teacher. It's like a personalized as a teacher coming going. Oh you're not. Oh i see. You're getting stuck on this corner here now. Why do we go back to this corner and think about what it is about this coroner that you're getting stuck on and maybe we can back up and we'll move this and maybe you can solve the problem this way and so there is something about this raining. That is much more educational and helpful to the artificial intelligence and someday it could be that curricula are designed personalized by artificial intelligences for people. I mean i like. I'm immediately reminded of going to school in the ninety s and having the the reading packets that were color coded based on your reading level in your assigned reading a home you would read in. You would take a little quiz and then you either get pushed up or you'd get pushed out. And so that was you know a very two d. version of trying to personalise learning Individual and then you can adapt as you go with each new assignment or whatever but that's just where my brain was thinking when you were talking about this and thinking about having an ai be able to constantly adapt and augments your learning based on what you're getting in what you're not getting right and that would be so fantastic because that's what every teacher strives to do. But a lot of the time if you have thirty five brains in your class. It's really hard to do that. Effectively for all thirty five at the exactly right. Yeah and you know. Teachers have different ways to address this in whether it's groups of students or having students work together you know teachers do what they can but yeah sometimes they maybe if we had. Ai working on our online curricula through personalize them for people. Maybe don't know our ai. Teachers going to make your or people. Don't slip through the cracks. Will they help teachers. Yes we not. Why would we want to assist teachers. Help your teachers visit can. It's quick story. I got i got a felt really sick and school. This is the fourth grade equity elementary school covering anyway but really sick. I told the teacher. I need to go see the nurse. She said you're fine. Sit down as you went even felt i'm like i. She felt my head. She's like you're sitting out. I got up and did you learn something about yourself how to deal with no no. I learned that he's anti-authoritarian. Listen to teachers in better. I one hundred two fever. Like i'm gonna call. Have you picked up. So i'm like okay. I'll be right back. Where magnetic class eighty izzo open door the glass and yelled hundred and you and then close this. This tells me so much about you. Justin hundred into and now. It's time for me me to talk about sleep. make you sleepy appropriate. yes i know. End the show on a couple of sleep stories. That were very interesting to come out in the last week. Two studies out this week showing the important nature of sleep. One Published in science advances by a group out of northwestern university examined fruit fly brain behavior and were able to discover that was asleep. Are fruit fly brain rhythms that are important to potentially get waste materials toxic proteins etc out of the brain and fruit flies are unimportant model for human neurodegenerative disease and other other Other areas of study the researchers. They they found that the the fruit flies had pro bacchus as extension sleep. This is a deep stage in sleep. If you ever wanted to know how fruit flies sleep. There is a stage in their sleep which is very similar to beep slow. Wave sleep which we know is supposed to be very restorative or humans. during this stage the fruit flies. extend an reese retract their pro bosca's the while they're sleeping. The fruit flies are sticking out there little per bacchus no not during that stage asleep. I don't know if they're dreaming but what they think is going on is that the pumping motion is moving fluids and that is possibly triggering. The motion of fluids through the little brute fly brain and to the fruit fly version of the kidneys and So they say that this p. es probiscus extension sleep Facilitates waste clearance and aids in injury recovery. When they impaired this phase of sleep at them from being able to stick their little in and out they were less there. They were less clear They weren't able to clear a an injected non metabolize -able die from their systems and became more susceptible to injury. The brute lies deep sleep. Robust gas pump and brain clearing additionally another study that is from penn state researchers and looked at ram and non rem sleep in mice discovered. This is published in life. Discovered that Blood vessels in the brain become more dilated during rem sleep and then even more dilated in non ram sleep than compared to win the mice or weight and they think that this visa dilation of the blood capillaries and berry important for flushing out the brain sleep. It's important it's like letting your brain take back. I'm just. I'm just thinking about. I'm going to think about little fruit flies. Well is it isn't sleep. Also when your brain does a lot of the like clearing out long term or short term memories and either putting them in long term storage or ditch them yes so there are also doing that kind of like marie kondo cleaning of your memories as well so very cleansing rituals reccomend. Ten cents are one recommend. Yes right up the size. We have a letter question from a listener this week in science questions. Hey guys i love the show. I started listening when you interviewed my friend. Dan hummer and have been hooked. ever since. I'm curious if you can help point me in the right science direction and shocker. Its covid question. How will we be able to evaluate if vaccinated people can be carriers for the virus or not. I'm thinking i'd like to propose this question. When my spring medical physiology class starts in a week. But frankly i'm not even sure so. Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all. Y'all do hope you are all healthy and as well as be pandemic times sarah My instinct is that we need to have access to anonymous tracts medical record data et because that's there's millions of people who have this so it'll show up In a doctor's office on a past at some point this need access failed to study. It's hard to think at least in the states because of the privacy around medical records sometimes being able to track in individuals progression over time is easy as that sounds in be very difficult and then add add to that though Contact tracing so if we implement more rigorous contact tracing and determine who infected people. And if that if those records are as you as you're saying the anonymous oxidation data or if people allow the the fact that they've been vaccinated to be taken down on record During some of that contact tracing the contact tracing interviews than that could lead to it but yeah it it would take a. Hopefully people are trying to do this. I hope are trying to get access to this. Data i was. I've been doing a lot of research on this. Obviously because i have some very specific skin in the game because my husband works in the er and is vaccinated. But i am not. There's been all this conversation with the fact that general understanding is we don't know so we are assuming that if you were vaccinated you can still spread. But so what i read. Was that the initial studies on the efficacy of the vaccines didn't really look at this question at all. Because they were fast. Forwarding warp speed towards being able to deploy vaccine. Now they're looking at this question and most research on this right. Now that i have see is all about viral load so just like you. Test the efficacy of of a mask a particular type of mask by seeing how much virus gets from. Somebody's mouth into the air around you. They are looking at if you get quote unquote infected does the viral load increase. And are they shedding virus into the air around you. Because if the if the cove if cova just gets into your body and you have the vaccine and it's like it's on a surface right like it's not replicating it's sitting there the likelihood of spreading that further from being inside your body is pretty low. It's more of a question of is it replicating in your body and your just not showing symptoms and so my understanding is it would take really intensive testing and Be longitudinal if time is the viral load in your body increasing viral. I think that's another really really important way to test it. The the final possibility would be to do Purposeful infections that's actually really put vaccinated people together with unvaccinated people and see if and how many infections occur. Actually i mean. I doubt his You know everyone's using p p. As best they can but there's a positive patients in the er where my husband works. He's wearing p. e. but they're still a possibility of exposure and he's ring is we could be a data point but you know we'll see. Yeah yeah and like you said it wasn't. This was not part of the initial studies because they just wanted to see that the vaccines worked to protect people But hopefully more of this data will come out as more vaccines are tested as we have more people getting vaccinated. I mean it's this stuff is a rolling process. But thank you so much for writing in sarah. It's wonderful to hear from you. And i hope that you have That you do ask this of your class. Anybody else out there. Who has a question doesn't have to be about covid. Could be about any scienc- thing ask us a question at Where do you want to send it to my facebook account. This week in science is on facebook. You can ask us their organ. Send me an email hairston at this week. In science dot com. Send us an email. Ask a question love to have questions from you. We've come to the end of the show. 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"Welcome to the funhouse podcast. The podcast that hangs out just hang just chills hangs out and has a good time and has good vibes and is just generally above board all across the board hanging out. Anyway i'm joined today by. Lindsay is me. What's up okay. Big wave two hands and patrick. Are you saw that on the mix you at all. Look what you just open your mouth. Gaping i'm so glad you to join me today and And an issue said this before but you know people make an account you can chat with us anyway. Maybe that should be cut from the episode. I'm not sure but doesn't got a couple of things to talk about today. And first and foremost i wanna mention. Nothing seems to be happening this week. It's it seems pretty quiet out there. I went on twitter looking to see what's what's going on. And it's it's pretty quiet Jordan peterson is up to some nonsense. And people are out here. Posting bad takes about a million but the snow from house on. Somebody's trying to say that horror can't exist in space. Yeah okay well. that's a bad take. You can pay alien. But that's not that's not it right it. I mean are we say that while event horizon exists. Well that's vessel scary. No it's fun. it's fun very fiery. Did you see his face at the end. Where you i say. Julia has like the runes carved into his face. I don't know there are too scary movies. Okay horizon to terrify the cruise to. I'm with you on. i haven't seen it. That's more of a cost. Looks too scary It looks it looks absolutely terrifying nick. Cage master of animated her. No but it's all noise it's all nonsense and so we've got. I've got something else for us to talk about in a sack because there's some gaming stuff happening and this is at its roots a channel about games about video what happens. Guess what e- threes back. Baby oh i saw i settled right. That's right there was dot biz. Are patrick just had inside gaming wash over yeah guidance. Second yeah was anybody thinking. That i wouldn't be back. Was that a thought. Somebody's to have gonna do it. I wish i didn't have all this information my head but unfortunately i do they. Did i think a lot of speculation going around because we had many inside gaming things about this is a lot of speculation. They weren't gonna do it again because game developers would be like wait a minute. We just did a year without any of these conferences and we didn't allow why do it. Yeah i i think any traced back in some capacity because they just kind of keep sticking around and that's their whole thing. But i think the news is that bear actually backed by nintendo xbox capcom konami ubisoft. Take two brothers and coke media. oh k. o h. h h media. Okay imagine what else that would be. Great good so gamers above anything else. The coke brothers. oh sorry rest in peace. The coke brother god so sad dark times. we live in But yeah it's going to be digital only and but there's possibility of using streaming technology and journalist only streams so it'll have like some of the trade show aspect come back to it and not just like a digital carnival ride for everybody to get on. I do hope they still rent out. The whole los angeles convention center to tell stream from. It's funny to me i don't know what is that what they did last year. I wasn't now now no did. They couldn't cancel their residencies and they were like shit at the cc'd lic space. Hi i'm sorry. I was just gonna say the latency. I'm not a fan of the digital convention. But that's just me are your fan of the engine. That was my question. Yeah okay. 'cause i i like to socialize. I like to see people and i liked. Meet people in the industry. That i'm in and liked to party so i i like that stuff too. I think when patrick and i were at the convention previously we were so far on the outside that it didn't really feel like we were connecting with anyone at all like very much outsiders that had felt like we had accidentally been given media passes. And then you we were going around last. E three that the last person he three in two thousand nineteen and we were trying to try games and zach was smarter than us he was going to like. Pr desks and saying i'm with riester teeth whereas the two of us were going to desks and saying we're with inside gaming which had launched a rich. They all relaunched three months earlier. And they're like what is that. We just wanna play wolfenstein young bud and they're all you can come back and twenty minutes and see if there's a line okay. Next time you just gotta go i'm with. At the says that number one gaming cell phones in the world. I'm here on account of five. G step aside everywhere very much like to try odd world. That's kind of gaming wise. I mean it's back. I mean i'm gonna watch the dock and i'm gonna watch them and now if there's something cool but i don't even know like has any no new games like nothing comes out right now. I think until like soup is coming in. may i'm pretty sure. Yeah and then the new horizon zero don is on the way i don't know but sony's not even three. They're they're not as right now. They're not part of this event. They gains relying. I think we definitely don't learn the name of this. Podcast kind of like a like a shock base. Thumbnail glow game really wild yes. We're going to face face out our faces and we're going to be so old release and then shutdown games. Release the snyder cut of elven ring. And then we're done with video games. That's enough it's fine. I'm video goods. We don't need anymore. I'll take some hitman. Dlc while we're at it. i'm sorry but that's it. That's a casualty of this thing. That's going to happen mix. I decided for that if they get that out before than ring fine. But that's not stop for the games industry. That is the last one. I was just adding it to the list. You know Yeah yeah you know. I feel like that kind of takes care of any of the game stuff. I think we have more pressing stuff to take care of. This time is is gifted toss from on high from a singular power omar and we have to use it. Oh to the best of our abilities things happen. Because we can't be entertaining we have to be informational and we have to the helping hand to the to the funhouse fan. And that's why we gotta talk about how to be cool. This is easier today. we're going to talk teen. The today is all about team. Talk for the cool adult. And so because i feel like corona virus has like on cowb- d calibrated my sort of senses us like what's cool and i really wanna like reconnect with that and with my ears and we're all we're all cool young people right and also the more things open up the more. I realized how scared i am teenagers. Oh they're terrified. Los angeles teenagers really. Because i was gonna say maybe i don't run in the areas of where there's teenagers but i feel like la is like an adult city. I don't really see a lot of teenagers. Well you got to hang out at the dunkin. Donuts the library you're right. I haven't been anywhere around in a high school parking lot at seven forty five in the morning guys. I can buy era. I wouldn't do that. The bell rang. Only hard liquor. Oh god get to class. Then i look at my like digital casio from nineteen ninety five. Oh the oh. They have school school. They go to school like outside. That's yeah that's that's zoey one the classes and outside but like outside I knew about it. I saw in the oc in two thousand and ensure watching that show. So i knew that was the thing i knew that was the thing i was like outside school cool. I went to elementary school here. So i i got that experience you gotta taste taste taste. And then it was. Snapped away to the frigid northern. Wastelands where you couldn't really go outside in the winter can you. Could you could snow days. I had snow days. We didn't get no snow days in southern california. Yeah you went too far to the other extreme because it was always assume. That's what i'm saying said get here anyways. This is regular if you live. What are you. A baby actually have like extreme severe weather. They just started like well. This is just what you get for living here. You don't get a day off. Yeah yeah yes this is probably at no. You gotta go. Like pennsylvania like was the perfect balance because it can get so hot and humid and it gets cold and snowy sometimes catastrophically so especially with the increasing effects of climate change. Bummer we're not going to talk about any bummer. Like climate change today on the staff teenagers. Don't talk about bummer. No good to talk about what happened singer last night. Well the teens are talking about west. Have you seen the kermit. The frog clip of yes singer. No it is. It's the most insane. I've never watched the show but like presumably the Performance just finished and they're taking the top hat or hat off of the back of a giant snail cost tube and they lifted off in. There's like a hole there where someone's head would come through and everyone's a waiting with baited breath and then kermit the frog pops up and every hundreds of people losing their minds they go jong everyone's like puppet muppet waving around and yeah it feels fake. It feels like it's made up and like it feels like a show that they would that like the people in the capital would watch the hunger games fresh in my memory because watched the second hunger games movie but it feels dystopia right place right time. Okay anyway sorry hold on. I'm wondering what's there's a palmer. Here i was worried this. This is a good moment to take a an ad break so be right back after we hear word from our sponsors folks. Let's face it. 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How was certain apple on him. No that's like classic. Yeah mean navarine sweep to you in the midwest. I want six year. Old patrick back. They put the pineapple on the ham. Saying it's not like. I don't need to see the pineapple on the ham like a nice way. That honey glazed super nice honey glazed ham so good. Yeah no i love well. Easter brunch didn't that. I don't know what to say. Some sort of i so i ran the a shower this morning for like a dot in and it looks like shit lindsey. It's a tired but easter brunch looked like this and it's just a picture of like a huge dump iran my shower for like two minutes this morning and then by the time i got in there was like it was like an inch deep of water. I was like oh cool. That's awesome and then my landlord came in like wrestled with the drain for like an a half hour. To forty minutes. I heard exclaim inside. He's like. I can't do it. Thank god like there's a lizard that he's like an eel that he's wrestling with coming out of the dream. All of these things are those things that teenagers have to deal. Thank you for bringing us back. I brought up. I think an article. That's really gonna help us kind of get to the bottom of what's cool and its slang words. What our young people saying these days and from huffpost canada in december of two thousand twelve. So this canadian slang. Oh in two thousand twelve o two thousand twenty were. Yeah so well. It's not so much about what were they saying. What will the teens their rapidly burning through the culture of the nineties and early two thousands guidry knock at twenty twelve. I know why they're wearing kinko's three county right if arranging cars. They've got like seen hair color in there Sure he lays will be back any time. Anyway i just got some stuff here. I like the one of the first things that they're saying or will be saying is murked and it can mean actually a number of things. I thought it meant killing someone but it can mean yeah as toronto like a guy tackled knocked out or even if you just had great sex and yes then be fighting words. No and and it's delightfully canadian to in the in the use thing it's a moose in everyday life did you see the raptors get merck. Last night we suck so one for toront- toronto tinians. I remember that being kind of a thing. But i don't think to the extent that this feels like a game. It's not like a gaming culture. It was yeah. I gotta work for sure. Call of duty got merkich. Do straight murked. I don't know maybe tackled. Sorry go ahead. Oh i was just gonna say milaoda. Guess one of the words on the list and if it's on there that's fine. We didn't establish there's points in some but there's no it's very ryan of fear is not at all combined now. I channel ryan furniture. I feel like is yellow is going to be on this list. That was also use the next item on milan left. I have to get it in before we did more words. No you you got it in right at the right moment which honestly vinci very cool yay. Congratulations maybe blush. Oh look at that. Yellow which is of course an acronym you only live once Thank you drake a visionary definitely not a weirdo like flirting with yellow. Yeah Yellow is often used before taking a risk or questioning situation. has been named the worst word or phrase of two thousand twelve by their associate books editor. Zoe triska patrick. Would you like to guess one of the two thousand twelve words. Oh god there yeah. I'm here okay. I didn't know if your pc did that. Thing where it just starts now not yet. It'll happen. And i'll lose the audio someone's problem to figure out but not yet just secondly it will. You shouldn't have cast me. It's actually your fault. i don't i'm trying to remember a word From two thousand twelve and you grew up close enough to canada. I'm gonna look at my picture. Twelve grenade. Youtube are a couple years older than me. So twenty. twelve wasn't really primoz teen time now and so. I did want to bring that because i know i. I was like charlotte. Were you a teenager in two thousand twelve like what's this weird year that you're picking. I guess you were right. I was i was. I don't remember no. I was eighteen seventeen in two thousand twelve. So yes so it was twenty four. Okay so very much an adult. I was twenty three or twenty four. To i mean people are saying that okay. Okay teen age. That's okay twenty six. You're you're actually kind of a cool teen. Now they're saying twenty six is extremely old and pathetic age and then once you get over once you go over thirty though you hit. Cool again is what they're saying. I have any here. I gotta get a lockout in my twenty. It's it's been an fucking stupid honestly. I'm telling you. Thirties rock thirties where it's as whereas whereas that twenty three is like my one good year in my twenties mine is twenty four. I don't remember. I had like one good. Twenties are just are just starting the the first few years of my twenty s. We're kind of stock in self exploration and introspection regarding. We're past sports. Sports just looking inward thinking about sports anyway after yolo patrick because clearly you're not going to ask just i'm not gonna go. I don't i can't delay. We're going to say patrick. You weren't gonna just say yo lo and say any words say yellow and then say your head because okay. You only live once. How thank you know about bingo or yahtzee kid. The kids were saying that right. Yeah did you say swell our swell our bomb. Yeah say that. It's not as bad as it sounds. I was to say it's not not. I thought that it would be when i was going through it. But it's our dash bomb. Okay and oh. I mean do you guys now at this is just stanley standing word for the our word. It's actually not it's it's it's when someone receives and reads a message on blackberries messenger system b. m. but doesn't respond so so that's an okay in two thousand twelve canada here now. She's on we on the canadian hot canadian teen teen hot and his cool cold as the rockies which i would assume continue north northwards into canada but the phrases about the rock the colorado portion of right. But i'm sure like it veers internet you know does it. Does i only hear it. Every so often can world building. Can you guess some any early. Two thousand slay charlotte. Oh my god take five take. Yeah sure my kind of territory. What are you goes. Guessing shrager shrek. That's a movie. That's so shrek it's when someone's green how about fronton remember fronton. That's i feel like these things. Don't feel like slang to me because they were eventually either forgotten or folded into just talking you. You ever taken a chill pill before. Oh my god chill. I think it'll list right now kind of in a year or walk. I've never done the crip walk. But i'm aware of the crip walk. I don't know how to do anything. Pinned really i was so ready for. Us dish for you to show us the no. No no new. No no no. Let me see if i can guess one. Bon you have fallen was one cool. Fake separate have been alone. I think bond was their pimp. It feels like it's i feel like balling might have been ninety s though a holdover is kind of the same. Yeah except yeah now. When i was that i saw something. I'm losing my mind over here. There's a couple on here that i've never heard in my life and then there's others that are supremely popular like cray cray cray cray. I've heard that cray that shit cray that is examining what are of the ones you've never heard of maybe Yeah let's hear him still spelled at the y. instead of an. I still still. Yeah s. t. y. announced still s t y l l yeah st y l. l. law. I don't know i'm agreeing with someone or the truth and so you would say in everyday life quote that episode of the vampire. Diaries was good still. I think it's like saying new cap. I don't remember that. All i all i found i found a word to word to scroll through two thousand year to six on my facebook page reduncancies. Somebody wrote ridiculous. Yeah that was a big time for language. Thank you remember when people would say awesome sauce. Oh yeah i feel like that was the right alongside ap oh thousand eight. Yeah yeah wouldn't size. Yeah i feel like everyone. Everywhere goes through the trying to call up surfer speak with like radical and Yeah gnarly or totally nar nar nar nar. Nar school are bone. What'd she say. Bone narva dinar shred. The narbonne with studies right. That's the no. I think i've had another word talking about this yesterday. Let's sue ya. Grandpa pancakes is that a family member. Or nope that's just teenager land pancakes. I know grandpa pancakes. I no longer have these social media sites. That had when i was that was just like my private little. I like stoorikhel oasis. God i can't think of it now but like i have my band website from seventh grade. Maybe i don't know if that doesn't a slang in it though. Let me see if i can find some more. Oh sang thing saying calling people. Money like adding money to the end of their names their name. Oh yeah yeah hope. Easy money z. Money always review p money. Money was big. Yeah definite i was those words is. He's he's got a gift you know. I wanna get this plumber on the side. Yeah see what. His favorite a teen lingo has he. Is he down You wonder if you could could you could promote is business. Where's this website i'm looking for. What's the website. I don't know i it's. It's the website from when i was a child ebola world. No no that's so funny. I was thinking of bombs role. A lot of my lingo from those comics. Even home star runner dot bro. Seth yeah that was one thing. Geraldton were bad nights of broand Nicer bra and door doesn't latch on the men. Jay she she's shares. Nesh isn't it. I hate it then. beyond that. Fotiou zal fizzle shell and my nestle right. Oh my gosh. That's how it went. What time do people ever actually used to say. You're punking mayor right now. Are you just got punked or did that show start. Yeah the show will say that. I feel i mean the show definitely put it in pop culture. Maybe some people said it. But i definitely want to set it. If it wasn't for the show punked became the new like done. You got punked all right. So actually i wanna i wanna start. I wanna give you a prompt and see what kind of science comes up You and you and your buds. It's saturday in september. And you're going to the mall but your one friend who was gonna go with you and maybe even drive actually turns out that their parents won't let them come anymore. Yeah does this bring anything. Forwards man no no word like narc or like. They're so lame. Like that's what i write bad. You know i. I would say that. Now you know. I'd say that. Now yeah when your friend can't drive you to the mall. Yeah you've taken to people in their thirties though and ask them to identify slang from when they were already in their mid twenties now. But i'm not talking about thousand twelve. I mean when you were teens. Yeah i was just thinking of when i was a teen but yeah one of these canadian ones. Lame would probably be. The one value lows had a lot of traction blows. Yeah yeah. I think i still think so. Yeah what would you also say. My maine's i would not say maine. Is that as in like your best friend. That just like your best friend. Close group of friends are my family now. Lives sure yeah like. Bff's is sort of timeless though. So fellas yeah. If i heard patrick say apps i would call some hotline And just call an ambulance as the top. A i would say. Bff's for like my closest closest friends and it wasn't until i think i was in my late twenties when i started calling like any girlfriend like my girlfriend's because when i was in my early twenties i was like well. She's not my girlfriend. She my friend my girlfriend and then later i was like why does it matter like i can call them. My girlfriend's like yeah right again. If i heard patrick say like oh i had a good weekend. I was with my girlfriend's my head would expect my. Yeah my bff send my girls went out to springs. It was pretty low. We hit the spy. It got pretty cray cray still. I just found a list. I guess i wouldn't call it all bunch of my guy friends like my boyfriend's my boyfriend's going to hang out this weekend with a bunch of my boyfriend's it's no big deal. Yeah my boyfriend. James patrick ryan and jacob. It works just fits. I'd find a beautiful website of a m abbreviations. And oh it's a classic classic type of website which i love and i think she'd come back where it is so unpleasant to look at that. It actually hurts. The is and maybe a seizure risk because okay the entire background of the page right. Like there's these white text boxes that only take up the middle of the page and then the entire rest of it is very thin. Lines like a like an inner the interlacing on television. So when you scroll the screen just flashes you violently and it's really good and this was not that uncommon back then not unlike the black background with green taxed. If you'll recall that was a pop classic style. Yeah so i'm here in. There's a do you wanna do you wanna guess what. Stf w stood for status. W stf w stf. That's like shut the fuck something kind of sort of in. Its its search the fucking web search web. Don't ask me any it. Just look at something that my dad would use lingo. That might search. Here's a classic one how he would use a classic. You're probably big on. I am right. Yeah amer was like twelve years. Probably my well. I don't want to actually. I don't want to say because some of them. I still use from my more private stuff. So sam just know that they had numbers and they had like random bullshit in and fair enough you still use. Am oh you still use the username. I still have to some of my own accounts but lost. they understood. I one was goose. Baby oh six. That's one that i don't use my burst. One yeah fan. 'cause i was knows g. o. s. and i was a google's fan. Oh yeah that's good. That's really get their lyrics runaway message with that account. I mean probably had to. Anyway i tell me the the name. Tell me if you know what this is. This is classic is this is extremely. It's extremely important to the culture of being In middle school or high school at the time peo- s charlotte the obvious. One that i think it is. What do you think piece of shit. Now i've made a faux pas on the internet and it's gonna live here forever. Let me get another ganzi helper out Did you forget it or does it. is it like. It's an acronym shorthand. Okay it's it's panel like what a point of sale is all the kids were talking about the sale softwares and selena that or pick on sister because that was like a formative part of growing up for me because it's it's parent over shoulder On your when your parents were behind you and you were chat with your buddies or maybe crush on even you would say and that would have parents didn't know but then your friends knew not to say anything bad. Oh wow because your parents incriminating compromised. Christmas party wants patrick found a word. That one's good. Yeah sick one's really good. This article has flex in it. It has ratchet are twelve. Yeah i found out ratchet from a on a school trip in highschool goes an ice call. Them and i met some from kansas. And they were all saying ratchet really kansas. Yeah kansas folks day ahead of the show. They were saying ratchet and finna they were. They been go to the store. They didn't originally around for a long time. No they didn't feel like. I think that just gained kind of drive through one hundred miles of crops. That finna flatland is so ratchet. Just kansas things so ratchet. Kansas city isn't in this state. that's finna at school. People still use that but maybe ironically but then becomes part hero. Cab ironic anymore. I've heard people say design that's like. Ll for me and day. like i always like Just right out the word. Because i was an asshole and then and now it's like ll it k. a. I still mayo picked out so hard and allows saao raffle fao. I still do the ha. I don't know. I don't do fulfill like all caps. It just feels good. It feels good. Can you imagine that if i sent that. What would that upset you. I would assume some shit the la mayo personnel. But you're you're you wouldn't. Yeah exactly thank you but you. You are very much. A lower case l. o. l. person. I've never been. I could see that. Really no. But i could see you doing it. I i wouldn't. I wouldn't be like why i'm alive. Har- yeah you are hard and you don't you'll sometimes put extra ha-has on the end. I know if you think something's funny to ha- to display how funny i think it is. I add an extra hawk you also do. I'm glad i know you 'cause you do kind of texts psychopath completely. But like you know. The whole like people will try to get out around the lack of context and texting so they will add more exclamation points and kind of like infuse it. Patrick will send k. And i know because it's patrick that he really means and it's like oh okay. That sounds great. Just the letter k but with other people. That's like a smoke signal. I'm not happy with what just happened. And i don't even wanna talk out at a lot of people. I have gone to me over the single k. Texts because it's like when it's actually if you want me to say i'm not going to write a fucking paragraph to respond to like it's it's good K it's too easy. They have all k. It just might have it means. I have the information i need. That's all it means. It's enough high. Couple of those. I go like is if i'm like okay. I actually like okay. Just helps with them on their end. Well they need to adjust is the problem Everybody days and that is what i've done. I've just not everybody that not everybody but everybody that i'm texting everybody. Is there a sign that you'll allow yourself patrick to have emerged pinch. I use emoji. Oh no you know what i do. I do the thumbs up all the time because the classic the sons the thumbs up is the equivalent of the k which is great because thumbs up is like i'm done talking about this because you know especially like in slack. Sometimes it's like you get something sent to you. You're like okay. Thank you ha ha no problem. Then you're like okay. i don't want thumbs up. It says i appreciate what has happened. We're done we're done now. It's over until something new comes up. I got some saying. Just go ahead. And let's hear honda p p a hand would've said that shit on dopey. Yeah but i. I feel like i didn't pick up on that until like i don't know we won a couple of years ago and i was like it takes a while for these things to come down from canada. I want to be insane. Does migrate down from canada. Exactly yes we know down. The can the mississippi a lot of times when i start picking up slang and saying it. I'm like it's ironic. And i'm making fun of it because it's so funny that this is the thing and then in my vocabulary and that's how it happens but my well i'm being like yeah sounds good. Honda p signed me up. But you pull it off though lindsay. You feel like you're you're so thank you and when and when you speak that i feel like even if people have never heard the slang. They'll be like that makes sense. I think i think i understand what she saw. Lift you up on their p p. Sometimes i'll hear Ears perk up at some local slang like philadelphia. Loves john jay john. Yeah which is basically just a placeholder. Where for anything like my friend was in dunkin donuts dunkin now i guess and this guy walked in from the back of the store he said yogi me one of them cold johns and they yelled back an iced coffee he said share so it's very it's very specific but i guess we'll get you where you need to go so it just means or any saying joint kind of like a eight like that. Yeah one of them. The giants right. I've never heard of that before. That's new to me. Yeah i mean. I wasn't i want. I'm sure it's been around philly longer than i was aware of it. Because i'm not a not exactly the hippest person and that's by choice Because i immersed myself and other cultures like gaming does it work. Does it work like this. Does it work like us. 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And i bought a demo cd off guy on hollywood boulevard. Because those in idiot. And i had some cash. It was only like ten one of the of it in your hands. Yeah yeah and it was so worth it. Because like i always used the auxiliary cord in my car so i only ever had one cd and the stereo and it was this and he did have a track called swag zillah and it was as high as the sound. I was looking around like it was like swag zillah so you know. He bought this beat and he just like when into the. Let's fucking go and he's like swag zillah swag swag zillah what you do and go on like that and my circle of friends loved it so i never really heard slang but i think that was the natural end of swag. I heard an awesome. I was at an open mic once a to watch to support a friend in. There is a rapper there in one of his songs. I remember two lines. One of them was on the highway to hell in a stolen car. And then the other one i remember. Is you call you. Girls all call my folks and and everyone was with with his his parents. And that's all. I remember that to say his means. Yeah pretty good. That's so sure about the did not wish i had always worth buying. I have one that i would do in two thousand and eleven an abbreviation. Csb cbs's be. Don't remember that one can't so ballin any means when you can't go into the sound because you're hooping cool story bro. Oh wow aiding it even more like more offensive. Yeah like see us be. Ah walls rave raspy. I would always be can come at me. Go l. l. Get off my lawn. Get off my l. Gobble gobble think of any off my line. Now it's not is it i was. I believe that sort of a metaphor is it like get out of my life. No no no. Don't give it to me okay. I want to see if the check and guests to come on chat. I know it's delay but jeez oh my atlanta o. Jahmil gamal get over my. That's it hell getting over my losses. What is over my losses. You didn't get on my level. I knew that i knew that. Get on my level get That's really good. I like this one from the two thousand twelve west that i actually do use still which is deep like let's dip. Oh i can hear you saying that. Was this ever said. Let's blow this popsicle stan. I know this like yeah. I mean yeah. We know that was stand. That was fully. Let's blow this. Is that so popsicle. Stand i don't get yeah. I don't know where that came from. I don't know why it caught on in such a way. But they definitely definitely had got that get on my level is like they already got it so fast so i know that. Sorry didn't mean it or up but that's probably been asked for it so get ready to see it pop up quite quite a bit more. Yeah yeah and a okay. I know what this isn't this is regional. But you know what bars are like an song bars. No ours. No dessert bars. Oh it's just like a brownie right. Not necessarily you've talked about this. But god don't can relate the million bar the millionaires bar. I don't know it's like a baked dessert brownie but made out of anything but that because brownies blonde days. That would be a bar okay. That's a bar but there could also be barred that's like has like granola and fruit. Kind of that kind of a bar is also a bar a millionaire saw. No no no. That's a by. It's all baked but like bars you can have. Any bars are tied. Then you get like chocolate chip cookie bar that patrick stratton hanging out with i. Don't even have dischord up about millionaires. Bar good what is that. Cheese baked the bottom treat short. Yeah shortbread look fucking bomb for one of those. And i am still look yes. Yes multiple dental visit bag. Hamas thought of another one from my high school. Okay i feel like one got called a ho bag. Like a person of authority that would lead to unheard of levels of scolding like that. Just seems really rough. Yeah yeah oh thank was that jank. Yeah yeah persisted a little bit that my arms around it God there's one here for money. Which is scr ila okay. Yeah i'm for that one oh yeah. Guerrilla was huge. I just. I'm rolling in skrela sloughs. Who's hot does that. Come from. scratch scroll. A scribe bag the bag. That's today right. That's daisley getting no yet bag. I love getting that bag. Oh i forgot. I had a couple other links in here. I have the top ten new slang words for two thousand eight. Oh wait let's hear just a few of those. Can we have a few. I'll just go well. This is like someone's blog so it's not like not written as mystical. So i have to like okay so i guess you're in like a i. Guess yeah i. I don't even know 'em liking one of them is a joke from thirty rock and was going to be a new slang word but they thought it was funny. Maybe just math. That's been around and it's going anywhere. Timeless no mill timeless the bromance station. Dumb this is very very much of the time though of two thousand eight. There's a there's like some lingo in here nodding at sexual fluidity. Wha i don't know it's i don't even know it's totally wrong. I also have this article how to dress like a teenager at any age. That's it's so. Sad i just wanted to read you. The intro of that like we don't actually have to go through it but it's so funny because you think about the type of guy and guys that this is written for that. This article has directed towards and just imagine like imagine it being your dad and just ask god for the record. There's no expiration date for dressing like a teenager not at age twenty nor at forty nine even at eighty and this is i think in english article. We don't just go out of adolescent tastes the same way we grew out of our favourite trainers and while we may not have endless hours shooter. Perfect our ups or entire weekends to spend at the skate park. That doesn't mean we don't. We've left these affinities behind so no need to banish any clothing from your wardrobe indicates you you still care. I don't know what the there's and then it breaks it into archetypes that you can still dress as which are the skater. Boy the sportsman and the modules man's odd man what is that. The mod subculture erupted. Oh these are for when like old guys reading teenagers. Yeah yeah yeah. I know man. Culture erupted in the late. Nineteen fifties suits paul rebellion. It's like it seems like pre punk rock that it's it's basically this is just like what is just before ashton. Kutcher show replied. Yeah you got spunk. The original honked punk. Yeah this is just clothes. It's like a button-down in jeans. Like all i know is in twenty years. I have to read some article where it's like. It's okay to dress like you did in two thousand six. I'd look at those pictures of me in two thousand six and i'd vomit also what they're saying all did not have i mean not like i have fashioned. Now 'cause teasers. But i did not have a vest over like a t shirt with a pocket the scarf and then like the hat so like the concept of dora fedora. Hat right heavy. Everybody can make fun of me but okay we'll go. We went to school at the same time. I know i know exactly what you're talking about. I guess i'm i'm thinking more like late. Two thousands of how dressing. But 'cause when i lived in ohio i dress like straight a basic white girl mid western white girl meaning. I had like the little hoodies with like asli or with the like the long sleeve shirts just like a hoodie and there was fleas normally genes for american eagle. A rotation of eggs clogs. And no i actually never had any dogs but i did have renegade had called i. I'm not. I'm not cool right the anyway. That was a saving grace for me. In retrospect because i was so far removed from anything trendy in high school that i mean my wardrobe if you can call it that was basically just like frumpy like ill-fitting jeans and t-shirts amd like sometimes had a lot of that. Something that i was like this cool and it wasn't like i look back on pictures of myself and like short of like plaid cargo shirts and a graph shorts and a graphic t- of like the flash or like the ninja turtles. It's like one of those canvas belts with the two rings at the end and like a lot of westover slack at the end of it that you can't tuck into your belt loops and some chuck's like that was like the most like. Oh yeah it style from my circle but otherwise pretty middle of the road shit for young charlotte for growing up in that time like it's kind of hard to place. Yeah that's fair. Yeah so not too many embarrassing. I mean it looked like an idiot but that was kind of just more me than what. I was wearing at worst. We're cool pretty cool workflow or call or call. We're cool even more. Not guess what. We're enough to drink alcohol so teenagers can suck it. Yeah that was in high school. That's illegal you can't say that degeneration x lookit there. That's all straight edge now. That's what it's about it's wrong. I just thought about what what you said. That's not what i did in high school. I did this. I did not the other. And i think everyone. Yeah that's cool lindsay's cool. Were patrick and i were talking about this. Yesterday about millennials that are very quickly becoming boomers. Getting the boomers are under their skin. And yeah yeah i have. I have a. it's not about age. It's about attitude. There's twenty-three-year-old three year. Old or twenty like twenty five zero hunting bought a house and now they're mad at like seventeen year olds for saying that you can't part your hair from the side anymore or your school and it's just like watching it happen has been so entertaining because people just on the exact same things. They were making fun of her for doing six months ago. And it happened so fast. Yeah like clockwork. Let it happen. You don't have to stop here. is today. keith side. You can keep wearing skinny jeans. You can keep parting your of the sud cool anymore. The hanes are cool. No and look to and in ten years. They're going to be lame and they'll go through the same thing but also the middle is is a crazy. Look what now. I look crazy now. There are some that are fine. But it's a what are you on. What are you on the prairie. I was playing with his central park earlier this year. I logged on to do the daily. And i had dark lipstick onto and patrick was like okay wednesday. I like exactly what i was worried about. Like a black shirt onto to make a million one time. I did do minion. Bounding accidentally nuts in content. I just got a new pair. Overalls has very excited about it. And i those are cute overall. I wish i could world you can. Did someone tell you know. Because i just when. I wear overalls and i say this without trying to sound like oh he myself but i my body would look like if french just dumped. A bunch of potatoes and some overalls. Because of the way overalls are shaped right is to go over your shoulder. So they're holding everything like in certain ways and so like maybe a more fit person i could do the overalls but like it amy. Let me do the middle part okay. I'll keep a part is so cool my skinny jeans or whatever but the overall it amy now right now maybe in a couple of months maybe well that's great. I think you should wear whatever you feel comfortable. and lindsey. i agree. I also agree. I think to finish us out. I'm going to talk about some of the slang we're seeing today from twenty twenty. Oh that sounds that dot is not on here. I think that's more twenty-eight already aged yourself. Oh my god you just call yourself out in the town square. Is teenagers all around. You screaming apes. Well yeah that's really good. I have young cousins so they definitely taught me all those hip dances like tiktok. So here's some slaying. This article is written updated in february last year. Says pre cove. Ed maybe let me back on. I'll give you the benefit of the but we got hate to see it. I love to see you hate this. You know what i hate about. The slant about current slang the slang thing is invented in within a day is written into the ground so fucking hard by every social media. Thing that i hate it here again ever and you're a hat and the brand hack if you use it like right that same with the songs tiktok has the same song. Use a different song. Oh yeah i know. I don't even have tiktok this shit. I was just saying okay boomer. One of my favorite things from tiktok is like sayings or slang is the not me blank blank blank because i couldn't fuses the shit out of me. I was talking to somebody and they said not me doing acts and i had to ask. Does this mean you did it or not. Yes yes now. As i say did it and then here's what it means. It means that they did it and that they're they're like i can't believe he did that. Like not me goal. Janelle digging my grave not me grave and putting in burying myself alive. Yeah it just it annoys me. Just because of the repetition of those things phrasing gets five death they all over the internet. It's not about the people using it. Quick the nature risk happened on some slang instantly. Like i never wanna hear this one. I hate anyone who uses it. Yeah i love fine too but people look at it with very much rose colored glasses. 'cause they're not growing out my mustache. Okay boomer vina's probably not freight right in hindsight. No it was. The only ones people are the compilations these days. That are actually like funny jokes. You think back to it and like there would be a thing like a joke or a fad or some meam that would spread across the platform and every single person would have their own version of it and they would do a dozen of the within two days. So i know. I'm just saying it's all the same shit like you get all these personalities like single app which has a lot of different diverse interests. But everyone does their version of the thing. I mean you. See it on youtube. To and i of course has a through line like battery out two games but like it tiktok. It's happening every hour. H one did not mean thing confuses the shit out of me baltic h one zero and actually pretty fun. We knew people that worked on the social team for the east sports arm of h one z. One which was nice. We could hook you up if you wanna if you ever want to meet him is he later fouls playing if i was playing h one z. One i would say not me bling. H one z. One in twenty twenty one anyway anyway done nowadays. Yeah we got. We got basic fit for real. How far no pap that does not meet. Not me capping. That's basic gum. yeah is all together anyway. I feel better now. Thank you. I feel like i can take on the teens in my neighborhood now. I can go out with them. They're just trying to live their lives. But i'm gonna approach unmasked and start. Just berating them with the slang. I've learned where'd a couple of teen boomers here. Okay team boomer teen influence teen boomer yard. Yeah we're were influenced series We love to read artists national. That's obviously obviously click. The link below subscribe initials fucking with a smash that like button and faria. Thanks for listening. Not me listening to the fun house. Podcast peace times to give us the ad. What are they saying. The rat apiece. Let's play this popsicle stand ono. You know what they do they go right or is that are just so i think that's further in the past. Thank you looking at twenty seventeen that one anyway. Thank you both for joining us. I do wanna real quick talk about some of the stuff coming. Not the having an aneurysm you at the emergency room. And they'll show she having an aneurysm. Okay what's up and very alison. No i did know show. Are we supposed to do the things on the stream before we end the podcasters. We and the podcasts. Don't we talk about what's coming. Is that a strange thing talking about what's coming up on our channel. Yeah funhouse oh then. Oh then hell yeah. That's part of this pie. All beans so sorry forever doubting you. How dare you step to me. No cap for real. that's bay. this all started. Because i found an article called ten sex-slaying sex-slayings that will be bay in two thousand sixteen written in late. Two thousand fifteen but it was kinda tongue-in-cheek so as a politician. Hey cosmetically are some of the most fun you can have on the internet. One point five million six tips to send your guy wild to send. Your man did grapefruit challenge. Anyway we have coming up on fun house We've got some content. Coming up soon sideline but it's super funny. I ll friday some of the early. Friday already dead. Yeah it's the first friday one of funniest videos. I've seen in a minute. Come out of this channel and surprisingly not not even involved and it's still funny. They pulled it off guys. I've just a weight are of the channel. You're both in it. You're both super funny. I don't wanna be cheese. Was i think the the the details of it. I think are what make it so funny. It's it's kind of shocking and there's more boorda's hell coming out gonna get. I just say this. Because i'm in it. Lindsay is but it does only get better because the game starts to pick up today. Yeah yeah we started low and we're going high. I mean really like the character traits and the stuff between us just starts to solidify more and more but basically what i mean is like we're heading towards day to shooting when chit physical exhaustion of the actors alcohol levels in ryan cups. The levels are going all over the place a lot of chocolate syrup at one point more. Makeup shenanigans expired expired whipped cream all good stuff coming up on house. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for listening to us beak will and learn cool. Thank you patrick. And lindsey of charlotte and a shoutout to my plumber for coming in clutch. We go shower. Drain big ups to the plumber. Huge respect yeah putting out of respect on his name for free. Okay thank you goodbye. Cody about that classics. Me and cody for making this all happen. Otherwise we would just be alone in our rooms. I caught. Oh my god narasimha lifestyle thirty.

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"Somebody's tapping their fingers. Please don't Aviation's most wanted list. I aviation museum curator's most wanted list. Yeah no i. I like this now. I haven't looked closely enough of this to know what it is. So is there an actually a wishlist in this article. This article from This is aaron spaces website. Aaron space meg dot com. And i don't know if this is if this is A reprint of something. That was actually in print magazine but generally is and yeah september this year okay. So aviation's most wanted list the airplanes and artifacts that museum curator's dream of finding It's kind of ironic. That there's a photograph of amelia earhart as the lead picture here well as well. That's a good question. They lead with a picture of her. Of course yes And the last item. I think is of course is indeed Amelie i'll at amelia. So what are some of the things that they are wishing for Well are are kind of as terek off for example When the beatles arrived in the us for the first time They were on a pan-american boeing seven hundred seven. The airplane is not the issue here. What is at issue according to this particular part of the article Is the air stairs that they used that were in all of the photographs of their arrival. And there's a picture that exemple picture of the fab four as it were With the pan am air stairs in the background with with blue globe logo and yada yada and Well no question that would be a really cool artifacts to but i. I'm amazed does anybody think that they could actually identify those particular stairs. They just want an example of the model. That's a good question Is there a record of what serial number air stare was being used that we see matters. But okay all right well apparent. Apparently it was a vehicle. Not just the stairs right okay. It was like a pig pickup truck with the stairs mounted in the back. That kind of thing. Yeah okay what what happened to the vehicle is is is what this curator's and i think you've made a good point there. There will be a record of which one was being used that weaker that at that location and whatnot. So okay what else do. I'm just kind of scrolling through the list or anything else jump out at you. One little bombers here as picture. Well some of them did ditch. I think it might be at the bottom of the ocean now which doesn't bode well for longevity preservation. But that's at least from my reading of the article. And i didn't read it in detail but that's that's one one item. They want artifacts they like to have one kind of curious The the rod bing ston a curator at the pearl harbor aviation museum in hawaii and they looked at curator's and museum researchers and whatnot from over a wide range all over the world of aviation museums But i want one item this gentleman Talks about is the pedo tube. From the north american f one hundred super sabre the pedo tubes like three feet more more long jutting out from under the nose the jet intake of of this fighter and said it's very distinctive pedo. Tube says one would think that pedo tubes in reasonable condition it would be more or less available. Does the one the jet they have on display apparently does not have the accurate proper pedo tube and apparently they're just none of them around. You know it's one of these unobtainable things now. Of course we're talking. Something that was built in the originally designed probably in the fifties And long since out of service. But you'd still think there'd be a an An part number somewhere in a box that would be a particular item so who knows but a lot of little stuff like that another one. We lindbergh landed Spirit of st. Louis in paris the airplane and he were both mobbed by by parisians and a lot of people apparently Cut pieces of fabric off of the airplane. The airplane was rendered on airworthy in in this episode It was later repaired of course One of the pieces of fabric was from the rudder and it was the ryan aircraft company's logo which is a winged are and it's on the right side of the rudder that particular piece of fabric was was sliced off it was it was gone missing. The left side of the writer had the same logo on it and still exists On the spirit of st. louis that's hanging in the in the gallery apparently But somewhere in paris is that missing arm. Okay somewhere somewhere in paris kind of start to a long story at a bar one night right. I was just watching documentary. A this is not about aviation. But this is about the reality of you can find. These things I was watching a documentary about the video game. History video games The day and they were interviewing the developer of one particular legendary video game from the really early days of personal computers like the commodore days. And things like that and this this guy had had created a video game which at the time was was very popular and very well known And but it kinda faded as the hardware changed and then bye-bye bad coincidence. He lost all of his data files from the development of the game. this is a personal independent game developer. Just one guy and in a move from one home to another couple of boxes of stuff went missing and he lost his his running. Copy his source. Code is not lost everything. Okay and now whatever. It's at the time as documentary. It was like you know twenty years later and he was just talking about having lost when the documentary. I went on the air. The word went out to a couple of game history history of gaming forums and so forth all right and and although they didn't find his source go and that stuff all right At that point no one even had a copy of the game let alone anything else And people step forward and one person in particular step towards that. I've got a copy of that game. I've got it right here. i'd be glad to give it to you and they've since since found it and made duplicates and they're actually running it on an emulator on the internet now so that you can play this legislative. Yeah so the ryan logo from the from the saint louis spirit saint louis could could. Well turn up and it's a. They said that problem at the white house. I remember hearing stir reading stories about Visitors touring the white house. Used to be notorious for for discreetly cutting pieces of the curtains and stealing them at. This goes back to like the the age of abraham lincoln kind of that period of history When apparently coming and going in the white house was a much easier thing much more casual thing and apparently it was just notorious that the curtain they were constantly having replaced. The curtains or the curtains were constantly looking tattered. Because people were they'd clip it. Still hold curtains. Apparently but they'd also it was very very common for people to take bring a knife out of their pocket and cut off a piece of the curtain or a piece of carpet. Or you know things like that. Can you imagine getting into the white house with a knife in your pocket today. I know exactly exactly so david your awful caught. Do you have any of these things in your garage. No i've got a couple of beatles albums from but like this. I was looking at that picture. And i was thinking the picture of the beatles going scrolling back to it here so the air stairs is in the background. And that's what they're asking about. The the little pan am travel bags that they're holding. Their hands are pretty damned adorable. And i'm just thinking and that's the kind of thing you might actually still be. You know aren't could probably get those on ebay well but i'm talking about that one. The one that one that that george harrison is hold. That's that's wait a minute. Let me see if i can recognize them. I believe that's john lennon john lennon on the left with the pan am bag. Yes that's who george harrison to the right next to the For what they they bring bag looks like that does that. Also say it's harder to read but anyways every now and then you know a piece of of personal property like this will appear from a celebrity. You know because it's been in their closet for our somebody's closet for you know and it'll get donated so The pan am bag that that would be a bit of history right there right. I see what that is. What harrison's holding what is he holding back at the time. Back in the early sixties There was another arab british airline called B b british european airways. Or something like that okay. Be and harrison is holding a bag that says the beatles spelled b. a. t. l. e. s. as it should be But the but the be. A part of that is highlighted in with a red background. Okay but it's a be bag as opposed to pan am back because product placement is not a new concept exact yeah. I wonder whether these weren't perse class. Spiff probably yeah which is ironic. That that's what back then would pass his cloud that can linens hand. Here's two bags two bags and the second one i'm thinking is like the bag. Harrison is old. I believe you're right. Yes leads right so anyways collectibles well anyways listeners. If you've got any of these things There are museum curators over the world who would love to become your friend and In only to those guys that are still alive. Yeah well that happens what else. I don't know why it's so it doesn't say on our list who posted this but the candy bomber thing feels like a dave item. Is that you. David actually put you did. We'll see there. We go see this this actually. So that's interesting. This will come up in a in a future meeting as well. But what's the story with the candy bar. Candy bomber is a pilot he was he flew for the army. Army air force or the military air transport service back this would have been in the late forties. I guess During the berlin. Airlift when Soviet union basically tried to shut off access to berlin. The allies started flying supplies into templehof. The only airport in berlin time only open to them anyway at berlin was split into zone. Right if it's still split into sounded before the. The berlin wall went up but The soviets were being Soviet and the city was basically running out of supplies running out of food running out of a lot of different things. And this guy who was a key pilot Fly in dc four's dc3's and like that Got to Panning candy throwing candy out of the airplane. And he did it He he tidies little parachutes onto the candy. And they'd come into land templehof heathrow. They'd throw these these candy bars with a little parachutes on them out the door and it became a thing and it was It was a sensation as it were in the media at the time and he he came to be called the candy bomber. Yeah and it was. It was life magazine all that kind of coverage at the time the still alive he just he just turned one hundred years old. And there's a petition at the white house on white house Website to give him the presidential medal of freedom. He's received a lot of other awards over the years for this. And i'm probably sure i'm sure other thanks But he's not receive that particular award and there's a petition To give it to him up on the white house website and it's not a bad way to you know when you care enough to click This this is certainly a good thing to do. That's that sounds great. Yes no i agree. I agree when the link the the link will be on our site and they need a whole lot more signatures. So everybody dive in okay. We'll do yeah. We're we're really running out of Of living world. War two veterans It's it's where know. I kind of vaguely remember going back what it would be like twenty years ago so now when the last of the world war one veterans past and and i it it isn't gonna be much longer so the so that there is this gentleman. This colonel halverson A living world war to that Let's recognize him while we can. And he got a lot of recognition back On the fiftieth anniversary of the berlin airlift futures ago and it. He's still kicking and still deserves to be recognized for his enlightened approach to his job sounds good sounds good so so jack. What have you been to. what's what's going on with. Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands. So why don't you go ahead and respond. that's right. I'm one of you to answer the question with all that going on though i mean we own talked in a couple of weeks since we've had some some hiccuped jack. What have you been up to i. i'm doing just fine. thanks for asking it's I although here's one notable event that that will make jeb lie. David will probably go. Yeah no big deal but It was seventeen degrees fahrenheit. This here this morning In in new hampshire. So that's a thing right there Which i the sound self inflicted to me for some reason. I just well i put my finger on. It is a little self inflicted i. I'm predicting i don't know if this is this is this is a proper to the podcast. But i've been spending a lotta time lately thinking about How my ptsd is going to affect itself when when the pandemic is over and And and and no longer tolerating winter. Maybe one of the ways that i kind of You know have have thinking about your ptsd stressful myself. I find. I think i'm finding. It is a way of coping. But i'm looking forward to losing my mind I m right now see. It sounds like making fun of people with ptsd. And i'm not. I'm not i'm not and and but you know when when the when the pandemic starts to run down when we start to kind of re they'll be a tipping. We'll pass a tipping point. It'll be different with everybody but sometime next. Spring or summer will pass tipping point where we'll be more like rely. Roy moore return to regular life than we are now. And and my theory is that everybody's gonna have you know gonna kinda kinda like something's going to change. We're going to go all. We're all going to like suddenly look up and go holy holy cow. I could have died. I i need to live my life in a particular way because anyways here we were in twenty twenty. Yeah i know right. You know so Self inflicted living in a cold. Climate is is going to is is on the list for sure But you wanna live in a colder climate. Yeah that's really what i wanna do that. New climate never gets this cold. So jab jab lookout. You could have a roommate. Yeah yeah. I'm i'll take that under advisement. That would be a different kind of self inflicted. There's there's all that going. But i would suggest to you that you have the power. I have the power the situation. We're also a couple of weeks into the arrival of a standard time which makes the makes it get darker earlier which triggers my I'm going to have minor. Pta's and i've always had minor sad and so i'm just kind of trying to every year at not just a pandemic year. Every year this time of year. I kind of go just need to get through. This just need to get through. This doesn't last all year. Eventually light will come back eventually warm. We'll come back. And so i'm right now in the mo- mode where i'm looking forward to. It's just a little over two weeks early december when we have the shortest day of the year. And i kinda that's big milestone for me. It's not that i learned sympathetic. But you know this is if you can't raise the bridge. Lower the river kind of thing. Okay could be if if you can't adjust the daylight and adjust the the lincoln the nights in the temperature and all these kinds of things. Maybe she go somewhere where that's different. Yes that's right. Well you could always come up here. Because it was in the high seventy yesterday and shelby again today. Kansas hell eared weather. It seems to me. I've ever since we've been doing this podcast. I have observed that. Kansas does not have the weather i would've predicted for kansas. It's just like. I remember way back in their earliest episodes of this podcast. I one time comment about you. Know being ignorant northerner. i thought that kansas was in the south. And he hugo go. And i don't not really it's like and set me straight over the years but the fact that it's seventy now and you were talking about freezing. Last episode is recall. And and then you get these long crazy stretches of hundred plus in the summertime and so yeah kansas. We are in kansas city. Kansas it's not for wimps no matter how many times you click your heels together. We're not in dorothy anymore. Except we go continue to play around my iowa's programming to play around with the motion graphics. having fun with that Learning more and more doing more writing. I you know. I mean you guys right every day. It's literally part of your how you pay the rent. I'd never really paid the rent as a writer. I've just always been an avocation or a part time. Vocation and i'm doing more and more writing. I'm i'm kind of enjoying that and Some of it may actually become public at some point. Maybe i'll talk more about that in the next in some upcoming episode but But i will throw out this teaser. Which is that. I'm thinking about reviving the around the field series which is used to do for a long time and for a variety of reasons. It kinda faded. And i'm thinking about reviving it in a couple different ways so more on that later on anyways virtually or. I don't know how much i want to say publicly just yet but that virtually i mean it. It's probably not ink on paper. I mean that's your question. It's going to be need an editor. I know a couple of good ones. I you know. I definitely need an editor whether or not i will be able to afford. An editor is another question altogether but anyway it's more on that later on we'll talk more so Were we yes. Virginia there is a seven thirty seven. Because i was trying to come up with The seventh united states like all the jokes are gone. Now right you know. We've been saying for two years now. Yeah know the thirty seven. Max is still grounded. Well apparently not or at least close to being not grounded. Right signaled is not. It is not grounded now. well it's not. Yeah okay. I don't know what the definition of ryan yet either right conservative because there are still a bunch of things that they have to accomplish in order to do this. There's various inspections and well. I think you're gonna do. It's reaped program the sims match the new configuration of software. And then. they're going to start retraining. All the seven thirty seven and pilots that are gonna this thing something and attention to detail on the special systems on the max something that they got stat for not doing when they started sliding max's into service three years ago four years ago at any rate the epa lifted its order. The administrator flew the airplane of right. he's he proclaimed it fine. Now he said. I'll apply my family. On it so once the pipelines reestablished gyms changed pilots. Trained requalified start trickling back into service. And you're looking at a lot of airplanes and a lot of time before they're all back on the line off my family on a to as it happens. We don't have any trips planned for the next ten years or so That's unfortunate of course. But that's the way the way you know and i don't know how i'm gonna react to this whole thing. I i part of me Yeah so i read somewhere. I made a note that that maybe it was radio or something where they're going to call it. The seven thirty seven dash eight well. They're already used a dash eight hundred and a dash nine hundred seven three that are not maxes and economy. Okay well how's that going to work and at this time by that point. You're like you know. I really don't care well because it really is a question of whether people are going to be willing to fly on the max If given the choice and other carriers. I don't know how many i don't know which ones are saying. They won't exact any change fees for people who don't want to fly on the max. Yeah but yeah ok. Last you know three months yeah right. It's also unclear. How clear how they're going to. How ticket purchasers are going to know what aircraft they're talking about or you fine print when you when you buy the ticket i guess is the quick answer fine print. It's not. It's not on your face everytime i've made a air purchased an airline ticket online in the last few years somewhere along the way the type of equipment pops up. Yeah so it's not. It's not rocket science. And it's not something you have to really go in search of you. Just have to to look. The average passenger isn't doesn't know doesn't really care what type of airplane. It is Unless got boeing fetish and airbus fetish or something that one down jeb. David go ahead. What they care about is having the seat. Be there as it sold to them. What they care about is being able to pick a seat in the exit row possible what they care about there being enough peanuts on the flight things but yeah it really is gonna take a long time just just from very not even talking about regulation or requirements. Just just the act of getting all. These airplanes kind of cleaned up and ready to go is to i think jeb. You're the one that put a called a by way of twitter. You referenced in article yeah. Air transport news was in. I was an maybe. So i didn't read the article i was talking a little bit about About what the steps that boeing. Because they already plan as you can imagine smarter them of what they need to do now to get all these. Airplanes out of mothballs and this particular article was apparently talking about the undelivered. Seven seven thousand seven maxes on that have been sitting on ramps and various places in various levels of of you know if it's mothball but in storage and it was quite a process that they have to go through to to activate if you will one of these airplanes It was interesting to me. Go ahead jeb. Well you finish. It was interesting to me that the story started out by saying that. It's a two week process. All right and i'm reading it. I'm going well wait a minute. It's a two week process for one particular airplane. It's going to take way longer inside. Read further along the article. The article said that That they will only have half of the queued up. Seven thirty seven maxes delivered by the end of next year. So by the end of twenty one they still able only delivered half of all of the ones that are kind of been piling. You can't you can't make a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant. Yes here's here's here's the thing wouldn't when the mascot grounded after the two accidents Spirit and boeing spirit. Aerospace here in wichita builds the entire fuselage for that airplane and boeing did not stop production weeks for weeks continued to produce in spirit was producing seven thirty seven. Fuselage's not all of them. Max but at a rate of about fifty a month and about half of those were max. Airframes i understand. So right now boeing storage. Lots have according to this four hundred and fifty newly manufactured seven thirty seven max jets or in storage while another three hundred. Eighty seven of the narrow bodies were in airlines worldwide when it was grounded. So we're looking at over eight hundred airplanes here yet. All you have to be reprogrammed brought up to date checked out cleaned up And some of them. I imagine we'll get some new environmental systems just to cope with the current Right corona virus pandemic of back into service and here one hundred and fifty new ones and three hundred eighty seven holy counts and all the above. Where's the demand for all these new. The all these airplanes to conserve. That's a good question. At this time. There may not be nearly enough demand. Hopefully we're although we're in a really bad place in the pandemic right now. There is hopefully real genuine light at the end of the tunnel right. Now it's not an oncoming train. Yeah exactly but you know. Some of us are optimistic hopeful that next spring and summer things are going to start to tipping point. I alluded to minute. Ago will pass. But even then you're right you make a good point. There's a lot of airplanes with a lot of seven thirty seven. Max is whether their brand new ones that haven't been delivered yet or ones that were already being flown. That are sitting someplace that are just waiting around. And so you're you're a carrier. You're a domestic us based Major air carrier you have some international routes You've had you've taken it in the shorts with crow virus. Yup you've had to cancel a bunch of flights. You've had to change your schedules all around. You had some maxes That you're trying to operate you sideline them. You grounded them you. You put them in storage. You've had a bunch of other airplanes out there that you've had to put in storage Some of them are wide-body. Some of them are narrow body. Some of them are airbus. Some of them are boeing. Some of them are 737. How big a deal is it to you right. Now that you have to you have to go out and put into service a bunch of maxes. You're already running a reduced schedule. Probably the i was trying to find some recent data probably fifty percent of what you were running this time last year on a good day Why the big rush well. It's your max is back in service when maybe there's you know there's no demand maybe the fuel savings in which is really about the only reason i can think of to to get amac's back in service as opposed to another later model seven thirty seven If if the fuel savings is that big a deal Fine go right ahead. It perfect sense but you've got training costs. You've got a transition costs you've got all the all the the cost necessary to to go through and run. The checklist boeing's published a to Bowie the faa. I should say have approved to get these airplanes back in service. Why do you need to do that right now. What's the man if you're already meeting all your demand with your existing service fleet. Why do you need to go. Put the maxes in service. I don't understand it. Well and i mean i think you make a very good point which is that. Maybe they aren't going to bring them back. You know maybe there's going to be no rush to you. Know this this article that we're referring to about how boeing's going to go about propping and delivering all these ready you know new aircraft. It's really just a plant. We don't know for a fact that they're going to do that all right. I don't think we even know that they've started yet And so you're right. I mean this is not a good time for a lot of different reasons for their suddenly to be a glut of new airplanes available on the market and Yeah maybe they will. Maybe they won't get woken up and brought back online. Look at the other side of the coin here all those airplanes at The newly manufactured that any others were ordered slash for a reason back when they did it. a lot of those reasons still exist for example. They might want to put their max. An airline might want to put. Its max jets in in place of a seven hundred or eight hundred based on seating capacity and reduced fuel consumption. That the max offer. So getting them into pipeline. There's also contractual obligations. So we'll start to kick back in Progress payments boeing depends on the deliveries for cash flow They're gonna wanna get them delivered an out the door as quickly as possible. Because they've taken it on the chin just like the airlines so I don't think that there's going to be a lot of time wasted agonizing over how the public's going to react and for the record these airplanes were already known as the seven. Thirty seven max. Eight and max nine when the accidents happen and the they just got short handed. Seven thirty seven max. There were actually two versions. That were grounded right eight in the nine right. So there's there's reasons why airlines bought these things and some of those reasons are still going to be in effect. No okay make a good point. I'm not sure about the model designations on some of these airplanes. Though in that you know there is such a thing as the boeing seven thirty-seven eight hundreds. We talked a moment ago. i there's a nine hundred I'm not sure. I'm looking for reference here while while i'm talking but I'm not sure that Seven thirty seven max. Eight and max. Nine are the same airplane the magazine different than the eight hundred nine hundred. Yeah okay that's that's kind of my point. If they start mixing up the the designations is going to be confusing and not necessarily a service to the travelling public. Well i got you though. I did find the data i was looking for and this comes from flight. Aware they publish Weekly or similarly regularly regular Updates on on traffic business aviation commercial aviation worldwide united states and all the The quick stats for Week november tin show year-over-year change from two thousand twenty two thousand nineteen as a forty six point. Five seven percent drop in activity. Us commercial airline traffic in similar numbers for commercial airline traffic worldwide where the demand for becoming into the market and all show up on that point. Yeah by the way it's interesting. I'm listening to you. Say those numbers. It's interesting to realize that those dramatic drastic sounding numbers are actually description of a recovery It's you know it's like compared to what it was back in march and april may. Well that's that's a very good point and if you start going back and looking at march april may era data. That was like twenty twenty five percent of acme numbers. It was it was horrendous. But these numbers aren't going to be bouncing back A anytime soon be perhaps the at all for the next you know several years a lot of companies and a lot of people have figured out. They don't have to travel nearly as much as well. They can still do business Especially the middle management types. Now agreed agreed but for better or worse the seven thirty seven. What used to be called the seven thirty mac. Seventy seven maximum may be called. That still has been approved for a return and it's been quite an adventure. It's going to be interesting to read the book or watch the documentary and and learned the details of how this all played out anyways and the the defecation will get the oscillators. These goes down for unrelated reasons. Oh well that's true that'll be a story but let's not. Let's not even fantasize yano worldwide. Chances are yada yada yada To say yeah. Yeah so david. How're you doing what's going on with you. So it's it's winter in wichita right. Did you say well. Not not a bishop. Until december twenty one of course but but it was seventy david. All the leaves are all the leaves off. The trees wind's been blowing bat outta hell for the last three days. We had overnight gust here in the forties of which is basically cleared most of my yard of leaves and and bless them on my neighbors to the north seventy odd myth upper seventies yesterday here which made it hard to do what i should be doing. What i'm trying to do is keep in my nose. Grindstone getting some writing done. That is passed to as so. I got some stuff done yesterday. A finnish another one today. Hopefully a third one tomorrow. So i can go into the weekend with nothing on the nothing on the work list that has to be head. A little upgrade done to the bammer this week that had been waiting on a part for six months and and close levin that. It's a simple door handle pull that somebody had tried to clean with a solvent in dissolved rubber and made it gooey and sticky so we got a new one on their sunshine up. There's about three dozen canada. Geese just launched simultaneously from the meadow. Next two miles. Now those guys are great at formation. Takeoffs i gotta tell you don't get me started by end. My office says a straight stellar view of the park. Just trying to keep the rock going uphill And i've been dragging my cameras out a little bit more lately because it occurred to me that there's a whole lot about these sony said i have not yet explored and if i don't get out and start using them then i'll be behind when the inevitable happens and we're all allowed to go back to events that are allowed to happen. Yeah so so. You're you're saying though up until this point except for the last couple of days maybe all the leaves are brown and the sky is gray. No disguise bright bloody balloon. He got it. Got it though. Oh i i. I recognize the mamas. And papas heard go okay. All right sounds good. Chat church on a cloudy day so david some some kind of sad news from florida this past week. What this is the three of us. You are the closest to to their activity. What's going on down there. Well most of you probably heard about the most of you probably heard about the dilan aviation showcase and it's really great little sport aviation evatt into land florida our old friend from c. Bring jennifer philip she Spark plug this got this community behind. It they built a big infrastructure for the show. They had already moved scheduled for this year. Show once from this month too early next year. Now circumstances in Kobe land being what they are. They're boosted all the way back to two november of twenty twenty one. Yeah so we're not going to see another dilan showcase this year now meet valley a valiant attempt to manage to do an addition of that show this year but It was. Yeah it's it's florida right. That's just mean anything. You want it to mean right. Telling it's really funny. When they moved the and dates from november to january in my mind it also moved in terms of location. Ever since all along as i've been thinking about this january version of the dilan showcase. I've been picturing it in my mind. Being held in c- bring and i was just thinking when i heard the other day that that they they finally had to give up the ghost and the the january version. I was thinking. Oh i guess that means it gets to go back to dillon. Now wait a minute. No no no. That's not the way it work. It was always going to be into land because they're building quite a nice facility there and you know they tried but like every other event in the world They were just not able to do twenty twenty version of it. So so yeah too bad. And and it's a pity because They've they've really built a very nice infrastructure for sport. Aba shit liars down there. I attended the first show. I unfortunately haven't been back but the first show for a first show Was really stellar. They had a great crowd at a good turn out And it's just gotten better since then but you know we're all we're we're all slaves to kobe land and a pandemic and this is one of many the i'll be honest. I'm kinda holding my breath for the twenty twenty one schedule. Because i fear that in some cases the twenty twenty one version of those shows is going to go the same way as the twenty twenty version not happening because of the severity of infection rates. In some of the locales. And i'm looking at you florida. Yeah i mean. I think the first half of the year is very problematic. No question about it. And i have friends who say that. The second half of the year is problematic to maybe. You're one of them. But i i'm i'm i'm maybe recklessly optimistic about the second half of the year. We'll see how it goes But yeah so well. Best of luck to our friends there at the land showcase and wish them well and they'll be back eventually. Everybody'll be back eventually. I think most everybody back eventually david. What's this story. We've got another one hundred year old. This is the you know. Twenty twenty is the year of hundred year olds. Yeah for some reason. Well we got a gentleman here hundred year. Old harry moyer who has suggested stir to. I'm sorry david. I don't know why i signed it to you. Go ahead keep going get dave. That's say jeb do well. Y'all did the leader. Harry moyer this article on military dot com. Which is Kind of commercial stars and stripes publication year. Old harry moyer Fought in world war. Two he was a flying tiger He served in north africa. Sicily italy As well as in china Flying of course the p forty. And i'm sure some other airplanes The guy still flying. he's flying his own mooney given given rides and and This kind of thing. And and apparently I'm not sure about this. According to a military dot com He he just completed enough flights or or whatever. The process was to potentially become the oldest licensed individual to complete a solo flight in the world. Not around the world but in around the world now not not around the world but by so really old the oldest licensed individual to complete a solo flight period. Okay which is not not an unenviable achievement. Now this is this is someone that that has definitely paid attention to david ogden. Right now. Because dave higgins old but because david ogden has a thing he likes to say right right. Yeah yeah yes time spent flying. I'm curious i was wondering if there was any hint in this article about whether this gentleman flies under a traditional medical or whether he flies under basic med. And there's no real hint to. Here's there's no way that matters to me. But i'm kind of curious At this at this point. I'd kind of cares. Well yeah medical one hundred year old guy. Who's i know flying tiger. Yeah well that's great congratulations. I'm sorry harry moyer. You're very cool. And congratulations yeah what part of the country. I'm just jumping around your. Where is he from his california hills. California very very cool neat eight suggest. What are you up to the same old same old on her hurricane hurricane i just you know twenty twenty. It's just been a sucky year. Oh that's what it is. It's twenty twenty twenty. Yeah no it's it's a we had I forget what the tropical storm was Month or so ago. Right came through an eta. Had eh last week man. I'm talking about about a month ago. I forget you know. Yeah i know right. Yeah because after another. Yeah yeah ada came through last week and it rained for like thirty six hours four inches six inches of rain here alone and dumped bunch of rain elsewhere. I still have standing water in the yard. After that. they're still places. I can't get to with the law gore. Because they're too soft and we've got some nice weather here though We've got basic seventy five. Eighty low humidity in breezy and cooler and nice even open the windows and and turn off the air conditioning. So it's getting to be quote winter unquote in florida. And that's a good. That's a good thing other than that. Been tinkering with various toys. They had to do some headway. Doubts and parts to fix a lawn mower and that's always frustrating got a got a motorcycle running trying to get rid of actually trying to train it for to somebody but old nineteen seventy-two bowl taco al to fifty. If wow anybody knows what those are It's all back together. Had to put some new parts on it mainly associated with the fuel system but It's it's sitting in the hangar ready to go. All you gotta do is put fuel in it checked for leaks and give it a couple of kicks cool but yeah sounds like you're having some fun there ken So you guys are used to raining a fair amount of wet environment. Certain times of year down there can can your can can this infrastructure handle four inches of rain in. How bad does that get. You said standing water. Well i have standing water in the low spots. Obviously they're low spots. And i got a lot of low sponsor editors some hammocks got a lot of yard. There's some some hammocks as i call them Which are just kinda low spots with some trees around them and whatnot The pond slash lake Filled up Thanks to add ada and it's it's absurd substantially drained itself down since then it's just a matter of of neighborhood drainage and not not adequate but You know surly all back to normal. No damage never is any. It's just frustrating to see all this water And you know another week or so. We'll we'll be For all i know. We'll be into fully into the dry season and they'll be having bans on recreational burning or something who knows things can change very quickly. So no i i agree. I'm laughing at the phrase recreational burning. I well you know if nothing else we have. We have our pyromaniac. I know i know all right well. Cool yeah yeah. So that's gearing up for the january issue of aviation safety and Try not to take on any other work right and actually Okay i'm kind of happy. Just doing what just just magazine for right. Now there's no. Because i'd like to do some other things i have. The time sounds good. Sounds good speaking of recreational burning hot spots here so I i guess. I didn't know so. I'm looking at an article from jay news November fifteen it's a characterizing as a question from the cockpit when you're hot you're a calm and they're referencing something called hot spots which i hadn't realized was an actual charted thing so apparently the the The airport diagrams published by the faa. Have for some time now. been designating spots with our places on the field that are known to be. I'm now i'm can you tell me i'm describing. This correctly are known to be kind of traffic. Bottlenecks places where You know Tangling with another aircraft is more likely than average And the debt the example gears. This is a chart from san antonio texas where there is a hot spots too hot spots very close together here at a At the intersection of two runways. And i have been around for a while. This this whole hotspot designation on the chart been around. You're kinda recent. I mean if you doubt if you count two thousand one as recent okay. Said they've been around and david their recent about ten years. I might have gotten blocked. But the 'oughts right but in and I'm not sure that there are certainly a criteria involved in establishing hotspot These are generally speaking here at sarasota. We have one and one of the criteria is that two airplanes collided there several years ago off. So it's certainly something to be aware of Anybody with a Electron with electronic flight. Bag app Or similar is going to see Is gonna should have the option. Anyway of pulling up an airport diagram yeah And on the published faa airport diagrams. You may see in kind of dark brown or medium brown Caller you'll see some graphics that designate the hot spots there actually labeled as you know there's more than one hospital on the airport it'll be hotspot warrant hotspot two hops too hot spot ian And you know some of these airports My have a long runway with alive intersections. A lot of taxiways and whatnot. Maybe they're high speed taxiways coming off or online. At each of these little intersections along the runway along the taxiway can be Designated as hotspot economy bans on on. How your airport managers are so You can certainly see where on these charts see where you need to pay extra attention I would suggest that you need to pay extra attention anyway. even if there aren't a hot spots designated for the airport you're operating at and You know just as we talked about With that video couple of that three episodes ago we're on the low seventy two touches down and then immediately goes around as another one. Seventy two taxis across the runway in front of him Any such intersection any such a movement of aircraft can turn into a hotspot immediately. So some of this is is well and good. If some of it needs to eighty we need to understand what hotspot is when it's been designated published but i would suggest that all these areas are hot spots right now these. These designated chartered hot spots. Are they just advisory or are there different regulations when you're paying now. They're they're mainly advisory. There's no regulation except you know. Hey guys let's pay attention out there and and this is one of the reasons why we need to pay more attention Well it's interesting and the charts is. The new airport. Diagram is the way to find out. Where they are on your. There's probably does the green book even still exist anymore and it's not been remained as is now called. The chart supplement used to be the airport facility. Directory is now. Call the charts. Apple has been for a couple of years. We need to talk about bef. Rv young man but anyway a happy to help but anyway the these are published none only graphically as in the airport diagrams which are in the charge supplements but also in the airport description in the chart supplement and other assorted places Not only published by the faa. But again some of the the people who jumped into this business over the years jefferson garmon for flight etcetera. We'll we'll publish the information as as part of the textual description of the airport. Yeah okay interesting stuff yeah. I'm sorry while you're talking. I'm surfing the net looking at different airport diagrams. Here as about half a dozen of them at boston which not not surprising. Because it's a big report on the other hand there's no indication of any at nashua or or Or sanford maine. You make sense one rule of thumb if you single runway airport with without a whole bunch of of taxiway intersections. Your might not have any hot spots at all If on the other hand if you've got intersecting runways intersecting taxiways etcetera. You might have multiple hotspots on that right i. I am a little surprised that so all of the airport diagrams that i've looked at here. And you alluded to this. I think jeb that they're in a different color. I've always thought of these airport diagrams as being black being mono chromatic printing and for there to be any color on them at all kind of a surprise to me. Is the the paper version that you get in those those End bound books. Are those color printing or you. Think the spots rate fair They're they're in color They are yeah. The the printing has changed on some of these things over the years. the pdf's in our in our electronic bag have basically are basically being reproduced on paper with with the colors and Right it's not all that much more expensive these days to printing color as it is in black and white some would say it's more expensive To print in black and white depending on how you do it. Yeah yeah okay. Flip side of that regardless the flip side of all that is there are so few people using paper charts anymore that it doesn't really matter in my defense that's why i was uncertain that the green book existed anymore. And because i believe. I get perfectly good safe and legal briefings but i've done it from paper. Paper resource in quite some time. Well in for for newbies coming into general aviation be aware if some old grizzled pilot and says oh you ought to meet. Is that the hot spot tonight. That's like being sent out for a bucket of propwash or a an exhaust bearing or any other crazy stuff. Even get your frame us adjusted can only do at the hospital right. Yeah okay finally this story about the the bigger plane. What is it an an twenty four That went off the runway. And i'm trying to figure so it's an interesting story. I guess you know what i'm talking about here is either of you know what i'm talking about. The next thing on the list year of a volt some reading from a tweet that came from flight rare drug radar twenty four. Which i believe is the twitter account of a publication twenty four has is eighty s aircraft. Spotting site got it. Okay thank you Volga knepper airlines. an one. twenty. Four aircraft suffered a runway excursion after an emergency return to new voice. There is my blue blue. The number two engine. Yeah almost off the airplane and Era a whole boatload of other problems in the bargain and Yeah getting back on. The ground was an achievement. And gosh darn. They ran about one hundred feet off the runway. I call that a. I call that a good day. Yeah no they seemed to have done a good job because it does look pretty dramatic. Maybe that's why i called. I put this on the list because of the picture here. That's part of the tweet which shows seems to show a pretty dramatic uncontained turbine failure. And where not only blew off the calling of the of the engine but clearly Sliced away at the wing leading edges and the fuselage it's It's kind of dramatic and antonoff and twenty four. So those are big. Those are big mothers. yeah they are they are there. There's a bigger one to twenty four. It has six engine soon. Only two of those in service. Yeah yeah one or two is. It's it's it's like that it's it's an it's an occasion when a one. I'm sorry i to twenty four comes and goes. Yeah so the man hats off to the guy that handled this one. Yeah no kidding. Uncontained engine failure during takeoff roll boy. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if airplane can fly again in only matters if you can fly again okay. You should've saved that would have been good ending jeb. I'll regurgitate it later. Okay all right. We'll see anyways all right. Well i think that's it. I think we're done here. What time is it. Oh my goodness there was like hardly anything on the list. Once again we still go over an hour. But that's because it's so much fun talking to you guys. I really appreciate it And i wanna thank you for spending a little bit of your thursday morning with me here. My good friends here jeopardy inside is a freelance aviation writer and editor serving as the editor in chief of aviation safety magazine and is a regular contributor to other public aviation publications online. You can find jobs work at aviation safety magazine dot com. His magazine is also on twitter. It's called app. Safety mag You can also find his work at eight. Yay dot net abmp dot com and on twitter. He personally is burnside. J. and david and aviation photographer and aviation journalists in the us editor for london's ad buyer magazine. You can find his work. Online at ad buyer dot com dot net and on twitter. He is real higdon. And jack larson private pilot a freelance writer in digital media producer. You can find me online in most places using the all one word username jack hodgson for example twitter dot com. Jack hodgson youtube. Jack hodgson patriae jack rogers and still instagram. Although i'm starting to come to my senses on that one and you can find my e books. E books on amazon by searching for around the field and the book section inside up for my email. Newsletter at jack hodgson dot com. David was or something wanted to tell us. Well as we've amply illustrated in this episode of uncontrolled space time spent flying is not subtracted from your life span. I mean when you got hundred year old guys out there still flying. What's holding you back. And that's enough talk. Let's go flying and remember you. Fly the airplane with your head. Not with your hands and feet at uncontrolled. Airspace in the virtual hanger. The pilots were chatting but then heard a bang or annoys of some kind from behind the tool shelf. twas a man dressed in red acquaint jolly old elf. He opened his pack and he flashed them look any rummaged around any pulled out a book. The pilots all hope that there was something for them. They begged santa. Look in your pack once again. Did you bring me a gadget and gas container. He said no. You've been bad. I've brought just the disclaimer. But santa claus smiled as he read to them. They're his message of wisdom and safety and care for the gap members. Those wise old flyers are speaking their very own thoughts and desires. The folks whom they work with might not feel the same and that is all right. No one is to blame the stories they tell and advice while terrific. You take them as general and never specific when you're in your plane and pilot in command keep all of your training right there close at hand. Assess your own situation that day and fly your airplane. Just like my sleigh and they heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight. But you knew that already so have a good flight. So here's what i discovered this. Here's what i learned. So there's an acronym kids use these days. what is it t t. I l has a talking about what you start. You start a tweet or a social media today in life. No it's this. I learned what it is. I think that's the correct acronym the kids will will. Do you think any kids listening to this. Podcast only back seat of their parents. I know right. Yeah this. I learned though l. So the three of us are chatting throughout the week as we are are want to do and and david just kind of casually trots out. Yeah back when. I was traveling with the band and i think jeb and i both kind of woke up and said wait a minute you were in a band david you show you. I mean i guess to a certain extent the those of us up this particular generation all thought we were in a band at some point in our twenties and teens. But it sounds like you guys actually played like did gigs in the whole thing david for for a couple of years Yeah he had. We had a good time. We made a few bucks. I i have a question when you're ready fire away. Yeah go ahead the question. What was the name of the band. Oh yeah okay yeah. What was the name of the band. David i'm trying to remember. That's a good name and then so what. What instrument did you play. I was drummer. You were that part. I did not. I did not know that you had been drummer in a rock and roll pan. I that's just something that as long as i've known you david that never came up exactly exactly and i just. I started playing drums in the junior high school orchestra and and liked it. I played the company. I played other drums and a company being the big kettle. Drums with a foot pedal. Let you just the joan on the fly and a couple of friends of mine were Starting up a band. I wanted to Get in a ban. Get a kit. Save my pennies and a full kid of ludwig drums with symbols and has them serious as drum bass drum snare drum two tomtoms three symbols of i think in nineteen sixty five at cost about seven hundred bucks. That's a lot of money for. Yeah yeah it took me a while to get to that When my buddies started looking for a drummer to round out there When they were after they've practiced enough to feel comfortable getting up and playing in front of people. They invited me to join and for about six months. I had the drum set up in the forward bedroom. The house that we lived in at the time and i would practice to music on the stereo or on the radio and from what i understand I had fans as far as three blocks away so to speak. Well that's okay. See i live and learn who live and learn well. We played some private parties from time to time. A busy season was spring and summer when the boat marinas were all open and there were a couple of marinas decided that having a bunch of high school kids in rock and roll band playing just off. The docks was a good way to get people to come in and buy more than gas. So yeah we. We'd play Friday and saturday nights holidays. If i remember right we netted twenty five bucks a head for the five of us to see for member. Okay yeah yeah and of practice twice a week in between. And i have to ask a couple of my buddies when i get back to indiana this christmas if they remember what the name of the band what about. What style of music are we talking here. What i mean is there. Was there any particular band or or type of band that you were emulating. We were emulating everybody. That was playing on the radio. Okay we tried to We tried to incorporate all the stuff that was current and people were expecting to hear at the parties. So that's what we practiced on was no particular band but you know rock contemporary rock and roll for the middle to late sixties and and we We would listen to a cut and then play it at our at our rehearsals and And then like i said buttoned up in the forward bedroom to house on indiana avenue and and and try to imitate drummers on the rock and roll music that i was hearing on the radio and that's how i learned to do it. It was a lot of fun. So jeb what is it that i don't know about you that i've been missing all these years. It certainly has nothing to do with being a musician. Okay okay trying to know quite honestly i. I was trying to think of something. I can tell you about me i i. The problem is that we don't think these things about ourselves are significant And then others discover them by accident in our astounded. I don't remember who. I was with It's been a couple of three years. It wasn't either of you on driving. Down the road. And i see a tractor With a sickle bar. Well i call a sickle bar mower attached to it and whoever i was with communist. Well there's someone out to go cut some. Hey and the person said what are you talking about a b. How do you know that as well that particular more is not a rotary more. It's it's a. I call again a sickle. Bar has a it has a reciprocating set of blades. Inside a framework that moves back and forth in his. When it's in use it's it's folded flat parallel with the ground and the tractor rolls log in it sticks out one of the tractor and it cuts tall grass to make. Hey that way. It's not it's not in a rotary more where it gets all bruised and torn up and stuff like that with the sickle bar. More it gets cut and it just falls down flat behind the more as the tractor moves along in his personal. How in the world do you even know something like that and well. I used to bail. Hey my my neighbors in illinois. When i was growing up had one of these head of field with that. They grew hay for their horses. And when the when the grass was high enough to cut and make hey I would go out there and help them. They they had a baylor and all this kind of stuff and we'd Odd watched the whole process and once the bales were made by far out behind the baylor. We'd get the bales and we'd throw them on back of the truck and move onto the next one and it was a good way to spend the afternoon and people are just like what in the world are you talking about it. so how. Yeah okay now. That qualifies jeb. That's so i've now i've got rockstar. Dave and farm boy jeb farm boy jab yes yes.

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Poolside Chats with Peter Schrager and Jane Slater

Around the NFL

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Poolside Chats with Peter Schrager and Jane Slater

"The deal round with the NFL podcast. Poolside welcome to another episode of the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan has this and I am joined in a hotel filled with heroes. Mark, Cecil, Chris Wesseling, and Greg rose of what is up Belise paid him, Mark as the biggest smile of ever. I mean, you know, to pull back the curtain if that's actually what we're doing here. We have done roughly, I was told by listener we thought it was seven eight hundred more well more than that, into the nine hundreds or something in that. And Dan, just asked after a first take on his opening words to the show if those were the actual words and then you had to cycle. Bye. Here at the beautiful Fairmont hotel resort, and Santa Monica for the NFL media talent summit which we somehow get invited to every year. And so we have a great show coming up where we have some interviews with Jane Slater, and Peter Schrager. But we're taping the show essentially in a hallway and because we're not in the studio, you don't have the music from the cans and a little Matic place at sorts a little bit. It makes complete Samaya was because I've never heard Dan's deep bass voice boom in so loudly. In this hallway here I love it. And it was a contributor. This is a fun of, of for the around the NFL podcast because we are kind of men without a country a little bit. They today, for instance, they had what they call breakout seminars where they break the entire media group. So they fly everybody in from all the talent and the reporters and the analysts all to this hotel. They put him up in the hotel. We. We have to commute here. But let's understandable, and they to this is the second and final day. They break it up into hosts reporters analysts, and it's basically a boot camp. And a way to. Converse, and communicate all in the same place. And I, I've been hostess podcast for a long time, and we do things on live Twitter shows do NFL network hits when they said go, where you go I walked to the, the host room and I walk in Colleen, wolves their job is in unit. Andersonville Yano all the other hosts and yes, I'm not on network all the time. But clearly that's my role and not a reporter and I'm not a pure analyst. So I sit down. And by the time I even have a chance to, like, pick my head up the men running the meeting shadowy leader says, Dan, actually, you're not in this group, your reporters and comet homina, and that was just kind of the so I saw back like Charlie Brown style through the hallways to find you guys for that seminar. But usually are not reporters either. So we are kind of just floating. I guess closer to analysts more than anything else. But. The vibe of the event is gathering communicating, and it was a fun. It was a fun two days, and we've made some progress now, they do this six minute, sizzle reel, they did a couple of different ones of highlights during the year, and it used to get on our Reiter that, that we were not even be involved in that say, at nicely in that we are Smallman in, in that we are now they make sure to put one clip. Now, if we wanted to still be small men, we that they only put in the two different videos, each got one in each and it was only when it was a clip with another major star. Joe Thomas in one. So the next step will be, when just the four of us the. Where the direction because it was a year ago that they simply shoved every podcast into one of thirty slides in a slide show, and it was about eight seconds for you had to quickly scan every pot. And ours was the four of us, and who I think they believed was calling wolf, but it was actually little Debbie dressed up in her ratings wrap so that to me was slap in the face of amazing to be Corp, oh event with, like Michael Irvin, just rolling his eyes and making facial expressions because he doesn't like what's going on? Like, what else could you do that there was a slightly different tenor this year, I thought last year because it is a television network that has learning to face the reality that mobile platforms, and digital platforms are not only just as important, but more important than television going forward. And that was a big emphasis of the meetings, and that's going to give us a little bit more attention than we have. Up. All right. We have so much to get to and Wessel, save for the end of the show, a little update on the corporate jargon this year last year. If you remember, if you're a longtime listener, we hear a lot of these corporate buzzwords like above the tree tops and open to Komono, and we're fascinated by them. But most of the shadow league figures, hear them say them so much that doesn't even register to us. We have west who's our official. He he transcribes everyone, and we'll check in on what our new corP jargons for twenty nineteen and let's also will share some thoughts. Maybe some bullet-point takeaways at the end of the show. But before that, let's get going with to really great interviews. I up she covers the Cowboys for NFL network. She's Jane Slater. So let's go now. And we did this, by the way, this was very I'm going to say it was classy. It was it was a little bit exotic throwback to Don Draper time. I'd be like a rat pack scenario. We went to the old bear Mont pool sat on the chairs Ricky Hollywood. Thank you. For setting up force, your welcome. I got some nice time by the pool waiting for you guys in your book. And so this is what we call poolside chats starting. Yes, with Jane Slater. Poolside. All right. Here we are who side chat at the Fairmont hotel bungalow here in Santa, Monica, the sun's out, and it's even sunnier because Jane Slater is joining us for the first time around the NFL podcast. Welcomed James, Boyce. Wow. Jane what can be on us. I think that this should have happened probably two or three years ago, but decided there's enough Cowboys content on our network. So it kind of hurt you hear that we, you know, like all right? We don't really need any more, but you're more than just the Cowboys. I kind of fan girl, you guys a little bit after the owners meetings. I mean I just I literally became a fan girl. Did it come across? I, I feel like you're on the show, right? Yeah. This is off. Yeah. This is great. Jane, of course, reporter for on that work and do a lot of Cowboys and Saint stuff. That's your two main beats is that fair to say it's ninety nine percent. Cowboys one percent saints, if I'm lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Handcuffs is what I call the team. What do you buy you love it? It's this glamour beat. It's Dallas, the storylines right themselves. But I can't get out of there to save my life or you grew up a cow, you grew up in Dallas area. A Cowboys fan or no? I mean I went to the parade in the nineties, everybody were starter jackets in middle school. We have more questions about Jane sliders, life in Dallas and the North Texas area. We're going to get to that. Why don't we why don't we start with with the Cowboys and let me jump in with the first question boys? And I'll start here to tell this work, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get. I'm gonna throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory for you. Jane someone. Theories, Greg, by the way now cozing aside in the lounge chairs. By the way, we just we just went through a workplace behavior meeting, Greg. I have a lot of personal space between us. There's a lot of personal space anyway. Jason witten. Here's my conspiracy theory. And you tell me if it's off base or inappropriate, or leave the pool it gets bad. I'm curious what his roles in the offense and here's the theory. This is an all time cowboy one of the franchises shining sons. And there is that big d did a big favour for Mr. Whitten, who was, let's be fair not doing well and his broadcasting role and here comes Jerry to save the day. Hey, we'll get you out of that situation. You could leave out gracefully come here, work with the kids work come for the summer camps training camp. And then we can have nice little retirement on the eve of week one and he'll never play another snap for the Cowboys. And this is all been a nice situation. Helping out one of the great players. Well before I dive into that. I mean pink pony was such an amazing name, the conspiracy theory. What are we calling this theory? I would workshop at you don't have to come up with a now you've got time to put it out there and Brandis over phony, but she's showing the bona fides right now as a listener. So here's what I'll say it's not about theory, and it's one I too thought about. But I was there, Scott Hanson, of course, comes to Dallas. He hasn't wanna go do drinks on the patio. He wants me take him to star in Frisco for a tour of the facility on my day off some more si-. Did that knows a party? Right. So this was right after Columbine. When we found out that Whitten's coming back and I kid you not Jason went was up there. Like a little kid at school with his books ready to get back to work. And when you talk to them, there's this intensity, but there's also this humility he lost his lockers. Martin has it now he says he doesn't have parking spot anymore. And when I see him in. Actes. He's out there barking the way that he did when he played, they say that they're going to take them off the field and let Blake jar win. And don't and Scholten guys play. He's gonna make it difficult on them. He's comeback completely in shape. So I know everyone says about training can't but we're right shaved head. We can unpack that here in a little bit. It showed him that he's aware. You know, I think he was looking to clean cut with the hair. So I think he needed that to be wear us when he came back, but I've been watching practice and we're not allowed to talk anymore about certain things that we see we got a little note from the PR department, but how they're using him is different right now. I'll just leave you with that also making a lot less money. So I don't know if that's humbling. But he's an athlete who got that experience of what am I going to do for the rest of my life, that can give me even a fraction of the satisfaction that playing football that and he didn't like it. I don't even even if you getting better views and Monday night football and was like a little more. Comfortable. You're never gonna replace that juice. So it's sort of, like someone that had a near death experience, that's coming back in their enjoying the life that they had. Oh, that's great. I mean, this is only year playing football game like he's probably never gonna do anything for the rest of his life. That gives him that level of satisfaction. And so two credit is gonna enjoy the crap out of it. But I don't really buy that he's going to be any faster than he was two years ago when he couldn't move, so he'll help them and be a blocking tight end. It's hard to imagine a difference maker. I did ask him that I said, and it wasn't disrespect any of our analysts here. But I'm like, they've got a pretty cushy job. You know, you get six months out of the year. Like you're really, they really don't call these guys do a ton of stuff, you're making great money. He's just so good at putting in the work and seeing it translate. And I think he struggled, I didn't think the situation was right from an ESPN either. I mean, it was kind of with testimony and Burin. Lisa just felt like there's so many voices. And the way they disconnect get off scot-free way on the FOX, like DT. Team with Choi, Anna. Mean Troy kind of like paid his dues Barbara's. They paid their do. So I think it wasn't the best form. But I truly believe he loved football missed it so much. And he literally told me like there was there still something in him that he had unfinished business. I mean if you talk to bright right now, he'll tell you the exact same thing. There's something about Dallas these guys like don't wanna leave DiMarco didn't wanna leave DeMarcus ware didn't wanna leave. We cover them differently the country thinks about them differently. They're the glamour team like if there's a reality show outside of hard knocks. It would always be the Cowboys all or nothing. It was a great series on Amazon prime. How could you ever go cover the Jaguars or something after this? I mean, everything the Cowboys stoplight and including I imagine the reporter experience. It's different even when I go to New Orleans. I mean it's such a smaller market. I mean I haven't even been to New Orleans at all this off season for. You name it. They've made some good moves in New Orleans. But I haven't been there to talk about it the Cowboys, I've said have been actually really quiet and seemingly as functional as they've ever been, and the sense, there's no drama, queens. They've actually I think they've loaded up quietly with some talent and free agency Randall Cobb. I don't talk enough about what we've seen from him. And then the, the, the running back from Memphis, the fourth-rounder Tony, I'm drawing a blank rank does not snow. No. Tony snow. Now maybe learning more about him soon. Yeah. But yeah, I literally like they are functional and I think they're actually going to be competitive this year. The way that he is so easily just acclimated that locker room like he you feel like he wanted to be in Dallas. And when you told us a story that he went up to Prescott NFL honors and said, come and get me if you get the chance. It was a sense that he wants to be there in, I guess because he played quarterback to at Kentucky. Doc was telling us that he's even sort of he speaks ducks language, and they're communicating kind of the way Amari Cooper does. So that's what those are the signs that tell me that they're actually functional finally the rules with thread that connects the Cowboys in the saints and has for years overtly, but also through whisper channels, and that's Sean Payton care. We just want to ask your opinion because you're closer to these two teams than anyone else that our network. Let's say we all live to be ninety something year olds years old will there'd be a time where Sean Payton is the head coach, the Cowboys in your opinion. I don't care when shot I think it's something that's always been in the back of his head. He's got a great relationship with Steven Jones and Jerry. They went onto Tony Romo without him. Right. One hundred percent. That's a great story when he tells it on the plane about wind, Jerry came over and asked him about Tony Romo and I mean he literally turned him into the air apparent. But I think he's going to want a little bit more, which I think it's going to be kind of, like Bill Parcells it's going to be his last stop. I think if Sean doesn't sign a lifetime deal in New Orleans, I think you could see him going to a team that he feels the challenge of flipping over certain guys like that. They need that. I mean, that's Bella check did. I mean, just look at Bella check Gruden and parcels moves. And then you can sort of dictate the life plan, the life map for Sean Payton in my opinion, based on some of our discussion, putting it out there on in through reporters that there could have been a time that he could moved a couple years ago. But that was before they had two great seasons in the saints gave him like all the money in the world. I don't think great leverage contract. We couldn't leave it. Couldn't leave it picture. Here we are sitting poolside four of us beans scorched by the sun and a staff worker came over to open a massive umbrella that covers only Greg's visit. Eric, eric. Like, why would we say, why would I say a little on the nose true? I feel like you guys should actually move this summer. You guys do a summer series and do poolside chats. You get it. Sponsored guess could probably get some free rooms and free drinks here. I don't think you guys are thinking to think about the way you do your podcast. We're not wrong. Conspiracies. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Let's stick with the Cowboys because you said ninety nine percent of your gig is there at the star power structure with the Cowboys? Gera-. Turn it seventy seven in October. What what is the situation there now? And do you sense a changing of the guard over the last couple years? Much. When I see sports talk show in Dallas, I would sort of reference. Some of those things I was seeing in Jerry does not like any. He doesn't like anyone alluding to the fact that he's not in control anymore. But to me when they said goodbye, does Bryant that was Stephen Jones, handprint all over it end. I've covered as you guys don't have a great relationship with. Does it needed to be done because it got them? Amaury Cooper, alternately it cleared out some out space in the locker room, just. The focus was really kind of on the game plan in. He was part of that last group. Tony Romo damore game. It's it was a tough decision to make, but Stephen Jones all over, and I think when we talk about this functional. It's on a slap and Jerry Jones's face. But I think Stephen sort of moving this team Ford making those difficult decisions. I mean he would get so emotionally attached to some of these players. And that's what was getting them in trouble because they were backloading the money, killing them in the cap space, and then these guys weren't able to to play and I don't believe would be back if we didn't come back on the daily came back saying, Sean Lee. Well, they seem to be more rational and less emotional about the decision making. And I think when I look at the last twelve months of what this team has done. I love the way they're building. And you look at the officers and they bring Travis Frederick back if things like they're going pretty, well there they both the deep into mine a little bit. Is there any reason to believe this team will not be better than they were last year when they closed out the season as one of the best teams in the NFL? I'd be absolutely shocked for the reasons that you've just mentioned, the problem that they had I felt like for the longest time was because they were playing all these ageing veterans. They weren't able to really develop depth behind these guys progress stoppers. Yeah. And so now they've got they've got depth all across it offensive line. I mean Joe looney was a hell of a center last year. And now you've got him as a backup Schrafft's Frederick, Connor McGovern and Connor Williams that are flex players on the offense of line. And then the one area they really need to beef up, though, in my opinion is still the quarterback because it is the safety position still something they can. They've been struggled. I'm not too Manding the you do that. What about this conspiracy theory? Here's a reason why to believe that they won't be as good because they're never as good as they were the year before whenever they've had a good season and I have to do with this, you my theory back to back and see my theory. Is that in Dallas? Yeah the fans and team and Jerry and the ownership and even maybe Jason Gary who's on last year. They seem to really like be pleased with themselves and think that they're going to start at the point that they left the season before, if you had told me that the two thousand eight Cowboys or was the two thousand nine coming up season where they were the ones would have not made the playoffs would have been a disappointment. I would've never believe that that team was as loaded as ever, but it's almost like in Dallas there as you said, no one wants to leave because they're treated like such Demi gods. They Trey NFL where there's such small margins that I don't know what it is. But that it's been impossible literally haven't done it to repeat two years of success back to back fifteen years. They sell often ISM well in Dallas, and I'm drinking the Kool aid just based on what I've seen at practice so far and having covered them when they were so incredibly functional for so many years. I mean think about it, Jason gear. It's got to be more hungry motivated. These ever been playing on his last year contract deck. Once that contract needs to validate, it Zeke Elliott got his fifth year option, but they're going to be shocked if that deal gets done the summer, you've got a more Cooper, that's coming up on a deal. And so I just feel like the timing fills, right. The only thing that's if if I'm a fan. I'm concerned I'm looking at their schedule. That six game stretch starting in late November through December. That's a bear. I think they're gonna have a hard time with that. And the fact they have no tobacco games this year. Finally, Jane and all great info, foll- Jane at Slater NFL, you could also follow on the Graham. What is your grim, handle at Jane Ashley Slater, what an experience, by the way? And this is yahtzee cowboy hats. So let's. Get so many questions about my grand. Let's you're living pretty fun line. Tell my friends watching, and always forget that it's like coaches GM's agents, fosters. Tell us more discussion, the Dallas Arlington debutante society that you can have it not debutante. What I see posts but Keene beer, buddies the bid life and you're part of it on your flying high dig in a little guy. Yeah. A lot of people don't know, this, I was married, when I was twenty six to twenty seven I five jobs pay the bills as recently as six years ago. So now it's like I'm in the sweet spot my life. I don't need a man to financially support me. I love my job. So I truly like adopt live breathe. Preach the yellow lifestyle and it rubs me the wrong way it rubs people the wrong way. But I'm like I wake up every morning when I put my feet on the ground. I'm generally excited that I got a bonus day like Belinda that onus, I can literally talk about that with you guys. But it's so funny. It's like they're like you're living your best, what you're flexing on the Gramlich. Like, no, I'm just I hope I inspire, you all to go out there and live your best life where we have talked about this, at the owners means we had a conversation about, you have lived a pretty colorful life in the past. Oh, yeah. And you kind of like I'm, I'm an all of like your embellish and like you. One point you wanted to sell real estate on the side and you're up. They can call time you're better myself. You understand this more than anyone? I've never been quite the accomplished. I will say. The transparency Caisley on the show. We ban what we consider to be in our world phrases that we're through with around six or seven months ago banned hashtag yellow, but I'm I do I also the power to lift the ban, and for you, because the way that it seems consistent drumbeat, that's not a flash in the pan type scenario, it is lifted yellow is lifted for you a one time exempt van my lifestyle, you could. The haters, right. Yeah. What, what you've said here is great because I think if you don't know you or if you're just kinda crabby about social media, people see that. And they think okay that's that self promotion or caters for some rivers out there. But what you're saying is you and I think all of us can speak to this on, on some level as we're reaching apart in our lives. We're either approaching we're approaching forty like Dan or were over it and we have a job that we love, and we have a life that we love. So why not be honest about it, and your life approach some other people like a yours zooming towards down the barrel of age for enjoy it? Because nothing's guaranteed if you're not going to enjoy it now, it's who knows out here on Sunday. I was supposed to leave today. I reached out in a couple of my friends, I'm gonna yellow until Sunday. I'm just saying out here. Maybe don't have children in the next six to twelve months. Either that will also help with the lifestyle have no emotional attachments to animals or others. So, yeah. You would have a hard time Cecil. See lifestyle right now. Current arrangement brings me better. This is open tonight, staring at the ceiling thinking about how he can have your life, right? When I worked at Longhorn network, he, he had a similar gypsy, but he would tell his girlfriend or his significant other time, I'm just going to Italy for a month and he did it. Free spirit. Yeah. All right. We gotta go. We gotta get back to the seminar. You know, we're having a great time. We'll have to do this again. Because Jane, you're awesome, you match the sensible. We don't get to live the life you live. But we wouldn't. I hope that we walked away from anything this conversation. I hope that in six months, we're talking about your yellowed summer. I'm sorry. Janus still around in town. We just give up all of our responsibilities. Swim class a little bit more in life. I think I've encouraged her to she's been yellowing allot, a positive impact on her taken her under your wing, all the haters. She's fine. Now that little bird is flying all the haters, don't give Jane a hard time, then includes our own building. We're going to deal with some of them right back to this Danes later NFL network follower. She's the best. Thanks guys. Thanks, jane. Poolside. All right. That was awesome. Jane slater. Thank you. Again, Jane, we have to have Jane on again because she has, and I imagine our listeners are going to embrace Jane. She has certain Juzic wa that connects with us and the audience. Wow, you almost nailed them. What is it gonna sick? Well, I think I had it, Mark. What about her Jane bravely living or best life on Instagram and I was surprised she said it was something she's trying to teach trying to impart that on people one day, do you believe you'll be in that position? Well, I hope to be I mean, she certainly you spend a little bit of time with her. I think number one, and she's got self-awareness. She has the ability to change your opinion about her social media footprint to use a corporal word it certainly changed, my when I didn't know where I thought this seems like a yacht writing leisure, seeking individual that occasionally checks in for work. But when you hang with it for a little bit. She truly is embracing this lifestyle. And it gives me hope that maybe Sunday, I will be writing boats. Living the way that she does in such a high lifestyle. I hope to seek that same thing. You know, when are we met LA brother, grandparents were her age, the idea of work hard play hard was almost strictly reserved for men and a person, like Jane is a work hard play hard person. And she, she also is a fan of the show. She says that she's a listener and frankly and girlie, that's all we really need are for myself, that's you know, we're, we're going to be fans. Do you aspire to have an Instagram on that level? I'm getting their months pretty good. I mean it's funny Erica, believe already reached that was the politically answer. I feel like the real Vicki answer is you're like mine is better. Yeah. I mean I, I live, you know, I live hard. Everyone all the listeners checkout both accounts and get back to Erica on Twitter at Ricky Hollywood, who has the better Graham account Slater v tempo. See, I'm excited about that. All right. Let's spin forward about ninety minutes later. The sun was out now is really starting to eat up. I'm just talking about the conversation guys. Is locking into mind. We'll side chat with Peter Schrager. Poolside. All right. Here we are back at the pool time for more poolside chats. And we got another great guests, very excited to have him, you know, senior national writer for FOX dot com. Good morning football co host. Also the co author of the New York Times bestseller out of the blue the Victor Cruz story, which Qurqus reviews called a quote, above average sports auto biography. Around the NFL pot is great guys. I love it. The scene here outside the pool is something. Well, yeah. We, we've had some families join us since Jane's interviews, some other alcohols being drunk out here. It's pretty great. All right, here who has more jobs than than Peter. I mean you didn't even mention like sideline reporter. Good morning football. I just want all this by route right now. Two things are things are good is the off season and to be with you guys here poolside with all of us wearing shirts and ties barely dressed test. When you have so much to get to. Peter, of course. Yeah I met good morning football. We've you kind of as our cool cousin that lives in Manhattan are podcasters. There's some DNS over happy to whenever we could have somebody on from that show. It's great. Speaking of. Yeah. I feel like we started the form format of having sort of four people with good chemistry featured on both NFL network. And under the NFL shield, you guys came along second and have excellent chemistry. The hear that a lot. Let's say there were to be sort of a Royal rumble situation. The four of us versus the four of you. I want you to your analyst hat on not you're not the one that you're part of that force him again. Right from an analysts angle who wins that fight. You've got some strengths. You got some weaknesses soda way. Here's what you guys have that. We don't have at the moment you have this incredible international fan base that I feel like would be doing all sorts of things on the back end. We hooligans. Yeah. We would not be ready for this. I feel turnbuckle action from your fans in Iceland. All right now, we're very limited to the thirty two fan, bases and the people who get the cable services that have the NFL network and watching our show. But you guys universal and Cecil, I'm not screwing with you. We're on four though, four on four you guys have a little more size a little more size with Nate, not across the board, but and high cows in good shape. Overall overall saying, yeah, I think that's fair. I think. I've been listening to your podcast for years. I think there is a place in sports, whether it be talking or when I was like Simmons. And Ryan russillo talk, I it's okay to just talk and not have a structured format and rundown of one hundred things we have to hit click, click click like, and if someone wants to interject and give another comment, it's okay to go a minute longer and hit that topic and get off tangent, which I think, is kind of breaking the mold of what the traditional sports television show is Joe beningo says from your lips to God's has actually. Peter is really plugged in and the NFL and we wanna hit on a bunch of topics. We're gonna go right down a list, very structured. That's just quick. No time for any real messing around. But no, let's go with the top of the top right now. Because I know you talk about Patrick Mahomes on good morning, football out how much you were kinda head of the train a little bit about how good he would be. And certainly was last year is the MVP a couple of weeks ago on the show. We did a segment called comedown players of the year. I throughout Mahomes, as my come down player of the year in the sense that I drew a parallel to eighty four Marino. After that Reno was still an all pro and an elite at the position, but eighty four was just special, and that's kind of how I predict the Mahomes easel go, but you don't necessarily agree with that out. I'm doubling down on Mahomes. I think we'll statistically, I think I think sadistically he could be as good. If not better this year, he has a full off season with Andy. And here's the thing, everyone's gonna point to tyreek hill might not be on the field. And they lost. Chris Connelly and cream on it is, so rare from one of these offenses that puts up these historic numbers, which they did to also not have the entire brain trust of the offensive coaching staff taken from them. So unlike the eagles a year ago, where deflect Pogos and Frank Reich goes, our deal with new coaches in this case, Eric enemy is back calf is back, the head coach is back. And Tony I talked to guys in Kansas City, and they're like, bro. You have no idea what he's about to do to the league this year, which gets me. So excited because if the standard is fifty. Touchdowns. And no look passes an MVP offense a player of the year. What's that mean it could be even better? I don't know what that is. Well that I think that's a great point because Mahomes is was so far ahead of anything that we've seen for a first year starter. They, it's almost it's almost like underrated. Like people are like, wow, imagine what Baker Mayfield could do this year in his second year. It's like they're basically the same age in Mahomes came into the league as the best player in the league and some of the things that he did. It was just like never seen before. So, like why couldn't he get better? We would expect pretty much any other starter going into his second year as a starter to get better. He more than any quarterback at least that I think we've I've ever seen since we've been covering. He liked breaks every rule or every boundary that have -solutely and here's the other part. He played baseball most of his high school like he's still getting full off seasons of learning how to play football, which is insane. But you're right. We do the stuff on our show, and it's June and July and may where we're trying to make any sort. Content and one of the conversations was which which third your quarterback while the best season Trubisky, Watson, or Mahomes, and I was like, downright insulted how we can even walk on inter Bisky. Oh, yeah. In the same conversation as Mahomes who might end up being the best quarterback we've ever seen way he plays. So like he was that good in your to. And I think Marino's the only comparison when it got rothlisburger was a great team there on the Super Bowl that we've seen that happen. Russell wilson. But no one individual has been as good as that dude was last year. I've never seen a precedent or at least I can't think of any going through any quarterback ever where they came in and early in the career they either shattered or threatened all time passing records head a singular NFL season. And then was able to repeat it the next year. I know. And that's the thing I think he could even. And. I don't want it because I don't know what I I don't know. But from what I'm hearing there's an assumption in Kansas City, that at least for the majority of the season, number ten tire kale will be there. So we've heard that leaked out a little places where they're saying, oh, well, they're going whereas everyone else this, it's going to have to be Sammy Watkins thinks that there's some team like team in. It's more just the feeling around the league. Is that, that in the NFL can come out and say just like with Zeke Elliot like six game? Whatever it is. But this thought that, you know, tyreek suspend is a definite from what I'm hearing. There's no definite in either way yet. So fifty fifty affair bet that he'll be on the field or not. I think at this point, and that's fine. But there is also that fifty percent that he might be on the field case. That's totally different story. The chiefs of obviously left the door open. And that's that's something that we, we've been talking about on the show for a few weeks now that it's just kind of been something that's been hanging out there. And at some point. We're going to get some type of resolution. But there's no reason to think that tyreek hill won't be on the team at some point, let's pivot here because you were all in, like I said, on the homes before Mahomes through fifty touchdowns threw for five thousand yards took the league by storm transform the chiefs into Super Bowl contender. Is this guy that just got picked number one by the cardinals Arizona roll the dice and a, you know, an Abbasi way you don't wanna give too much credit because they drafted a quarterback number ten, and then bailed on it, but it's balls in the sense that if this guy is good as they think is they transform their franchise. You're feeling bullish on collar Murray, Megan making a huge impact Mahomes, Ian impact. No, not the stats wise. But I think the first six weeks of the Zona cardinal schedule Mahomes merged into stuff, that is going to blow our mind. And then there's gonna be a book on them and they're not gonna be potential injuries but out of the gate I could see the cardinals being. Foreign to five one just because cliff and Cuyler are aware of what they're about to do. And the competence in that building is that they have a leg up on something. And if it just 'cause there's film on it, and you're Accion preseason training camp. They're about to do some stuff at the NFL is seen before to very much similar fashion to the way Griffin took the league by storm and in a bit of a way how chip Kelly took the league by storm. What we way Andy Reid started the last three please. Alex Smith he was just kind of a head of the game, that's it. So maybe there's a catch up to it. But Keiler is awesome. I think one of the best arms in the league and to the same point I just made him home. Cuyler Murray's a two sport athlete. He's never played football in the spring and his life. Like this is his first season ever learning offense for an entire offseason. So they took us in. And I was not overly critical of Josh Rosen pre-draft process. But everyone was treating Rosen like he was worthy of that same conversation. Here's what I would post to you guys. If Steve doesn't trade up and takes Josh Rosen as the fourth quarterback and the tenth overall pick and gives up a third rounder to get them is Josh Rosen, a top ten pick is Josh Rosen top fifteen pick is Josh Rosen a first round pick. We only think of him as a top ten pick because of the team went up and got him. But we're not so certain I don't think Miami was taking and he could have been we don't know he could have been Brady Quinn or hey, he coulda gone in the second round. And then there wouldn't have been this whole hubbub about this. It could have been just like when the Panthers wearing the Gina Smith sweater or Jimmy Clawson, talked him all the next year because they're like, but. This thought that Josh Rosen top ten quarterback. It's true is tough ten quarterback but the team that drafted another quarterback. But also the team that traded up to get him in the so we don't know because he was such a polarizing prospect. In some teams, it seemed like would not even do their homework on him had no interest in him. And somethings, like, yeah, this guy's the most pro ready quarterback, obviously, we liked him. And then he was on the market. And again, I'm not trashing Josh Rosen, I'm rooting for Josh Rosen. I think he's actually great character for the league actually speaks his mind. It's rare and it's nice, but he saw essentially traded for India's of this year on the opening arket, speaking of, like that, that sort of a concern, I'd have with Murray Murray exciting because just the combination of the arm in that level of running is I don't know who's come into the league quite like that because I think people watching their practices are just like Derek Anderson. Maybe I can think the Baker Mayfield armor better but, but with the running, but there was some talk here from reporters that have been at cardinals practice that. Concerns with Andy Isabella and Akim Butler county on rookie wide receivers, especially when from UMass and one that fell to the fourth round that it hasn't taken long, even offseason practices to be like, maybe maybe like these guys aren't going to be ready, even of Cuyler Murray's. Right. Where have you read? Okay, we're talking about team that had one of the worst, offensive lines, one of the worst wide receiver core is one of the worst tight end room in the NFL last year. I know. And I think he can cover it all up. I think he's I, I honestly so he's the odorant. Yeah, I think he's going to be a sensation this year. And I wanted to enjoy it. Good morning football like coming up with nicknames. Maybe he could be right aid goodbye. Spice spot. Young spice works. Good. One one very quick question for you. And you can keep it to one word when you look around the circle here, four of us, which one do you respect the most? Speak question Greg. Well, there's only one not answer is I would not have asked that question had I knew you were gonna go in that direction doesn't help them or my angling adult actually, now that you answered it that way. We're gonna have to dig in hard on the next. We scrub that Erica may twenty-first. There's a there's a story that runs in the new York Daily News. Here's the headline jets have discussed TV personality. Peter Schrager, in general manager, search coal and sources now this I imagine was a completely weird slash uncomfortable situation for you. Because all of a sudden, you're a big part of the headlines mini meta, who wrote that piece wrote that you would be contacted for assistance on prospective candidates is the jets looked to replace Mike. Maccagnan, do you want to use this forum poolside chats to clear the air on that whole saga because you were kind of the center of the New York media storm for a little bit there. Thank you. All right. So the truth, the matter, is, I've known the owner Christopher Johnson in any way. I would know some of the other owners that I've gotten to speak with at the owners meetings combines, and I could name those names, I don't have to name those names at all. But the part of the story that came out was that I would tended Christopher's wedding last year. That is true. That was fancy was fancy. It was a great wedding. I was going to say. But here's the clarification on that situation. At met Chris Johnson, a few months earlier, we hit it off when I say hit it off. It was he watches. Good morning football on the treadmill in the morning. And he was nice, and we exchange information, whatever. Fast months later, he texts me and says, hey, I got married a couple of weeks ago, but we're doing a little celebration in New York, it's at this hotel, if you wanna pop by come on by your wife, you're welcome to went we attended it probably there for sixty minutes time, saw him and his wife said, Hello introduced myself. We moved right along little high society, pop. Hey, I've seen gossip girl, I wanted to be part of it was it. This is my moment. When you hear that at the wet, you're picturing meeting the ring bear. Tonight. I was at the wedding but it wasn't really the wedding. It was after whatever. So. All story short. We keep in touch whatever. It's fine. They reached out to me, saying, hey, we might add another person to the preseason broadcast booth. I did the Rams last year with Nate, Burleson Anderson's Liano, like if you know, if you don't want to do the Rams, we'd be interested, but let's keep those doors open. Fine. Talk to a lot of people around the league about a lot of things I can assure you that I have not been reached out or was not reached out about the jets gentleman's her position, I could also say that many she report is not necessarily inaccurate. Because the report was that they might reach out to me the day, they did not that it was for the GM position about my thoughts and I'll tell you straight up on our show for three hours a day. I talk about, hey Joe Douglas potential GM or Dodds Indianapolis is really well respected. He might be a guy to look for or Terry McDonough Zona is got. So it wasn't what, what was crazy, though. And this is where again, nothing against the mini poor because he just put it out there, and then it was no, actually, it was probably accurate, if they were considering me because I do know guys in that building. They didn't reach out to me, but the reaction was so vitriolic. So I guess the word is. That circus dysfunction that they would think about talking to fans evening by the local, New York, sports media, by the sports radio, the national media to nationally, the jets must be completely completely out of their minds to ask someone who's on television talking about football about who they might. And I'm here I don't think if they were to reach out to Ian Rapoport, or Adam Schefter, or even you guys who treat this stuff like it's life and death twenty four seven hours a day, wouldn't be crazy to get a collection of a lot of people's thoughts. Here's the lead of Manila's article, especially the four of us. Yes. When you thought things couldn't get stranger on one jets drive. We present the latest head scratcher in the wake of Mike maccagnan's ouster that and we talked about this on the pommel jets fan. But, like that's rubbed me the wrong way, this rush to, to present them in a terrible light when it's smart to reach out to Peter Schrager people that are plugged into the league. I'm not kissing ass guys like you, it's, it's not a bad idea. Doesn't make you dysfunctional or use the other thing in years past. They've used a consultancy firm. So say Korn ferry is one of these big consultancy firms, you pay seven figures, and they're going to bring you the same list of names that I will bring you or that Adam Schefter will or that Jay Glaser will bring you or that you guys will bring like here are the guys who are expected around the league that are probably next up for GM positions. Here's one in the city. Here's a minority. Can you probably haven't thought over haven't heard of that might be good? It so in light of doing what we've done in the past and hiring guys. Haven't worked out. Let's try different opinions for free. What's innovative is laughed at out of the gate and you're someone that's talking to thirty two different teams day bunkered in person who's with one team. And sometimes those guys don't even know what's happening in the world around them. They're not even viewers paper franchises valued. At over a billion dollars. It would be ridiculous. And we this out all the time to limit the scope of your dilatot does happen. It's like how do you think your data center, and Ian, and Peter, get that information? It's by sharing information that was the thing where I'm annoyed, by the way, that article starts because Minnie's knows that ultimately, that information is traded, and it doesn't mean they're just okay we're going to do whatever Peter Schrager says they're going to, hey, maybe we have a specific question about one specific guy that, you know, you wouldn't know the dirt because you talk inside that building, they're not getting the real scoop of site and all the time. That's how the game works. Let's give it some love and honesty like a couple years ago. You know, I get to go. Sideline work for FOX. I'm in the building every Friday and I'm in since six AM in the morning 'cause I do. Good morning football from the building. So if I'm doing sidelines for Panthers Buchan ears game. I'm in Carolina, six and oftentimes Ron Rivera will say, hey by my office. Hey, do you know Steve Wilks? He's defensive backs coach. This guy's a stud. He's going to be a head coach in the NFL. You guys need to know each other because his work isn't recognized on a national level. Yet festival two years later, he's the Arizona Cardinals. That's how that happens. It's not because. Imagine Peter just kind of, like creeping around corners like the defensive line. Hey guys anyone worth hiring? How does something like that not factor into your personal head coach rankings when you see coach that selfless? And once Bruce Arians is known for this kind of stuff, poor. His doesn't that automatically make you think that that person's a better Cody, and you see how they lead and you see how they're selfless. And I think, you know, to McVeigh's credit we talk about the, the McVay tree and all this stuff. There was a good article for Michael silver this week and on the record McVay as like I think Matt leflore is one of the best. It's okay to give love to others and you see how these guys lead interact with each other. And you don't get that if you're not in these buildings and get the opportunity to so, but it's also the reporter's job Desai's. It's just puffing or is this guy really promising? I'll say this one more time on the jets thing though, because I do want to make this point as well. I think that. Korn-ferry the buccaneers used them this year for their head coaching search and I'm not knocking the work. They do everything as far as checking the box and cover your ass and everything you ever need to know if there's a thing in someone's pass, I might not know it, but these guys that's part of the consultancy process. Why use a search firm because they'll know that in nineteen ninety eight. This guy had an issue in high school, and you might wanna be aware of it. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm or having had the less you pay me. I'm not gonna do anything, though. They paid the consultancy firm of the search firm, you know, close to probably seven figures are high six figures and the answer for who they recommended to be head coach was Bruce Arians. Which the guy at the bar still next to you could have done the same. Podcasts. Around into ask other people who they would suggest is not crazy. When the gold ribbon panel. The ones that you're paying high six figures for suggesting a coach who's been in every organization and sixty two years old. Well now that we're sitting here with you. I mean you are. I love the assistant coaches. We love the, the, the guys that are rising up through the ranks in the front office can is there someone that comes to your mind, sort of over, and over as the next sort of unearth, Jess, Sean McVay from years ago. Yes. It's defensive side of the ball on pumping his tires because we don't have a personal relationship. But Robert Sala is defensive coordinator of the San Francisco forty Niners. They haven't had the pieces, but this guy leads by example. And if you walk in that building Shanahan, his bonafide the guy, but that defense would run through a brick wall and will do anything for Sala around the league. He's been in Jacksonville and Seattle. He is just viewed as one of these morally straight edge guy next year. He will be a name that everyone who has not has ever had an opportunity in the. In the past things less snake Khanna said offhandedly yesterday when we were talking to him was addressed to the audience at les Snead was here in the whole thing. Left's Nate now at all. Context. Keynote speaker at this foot. He's saying he kind of off handedly. I'm not worried about Miami. They'll be fine. They got the right guy. You feel the same way. And I think there was a picture that their website put out or maybe someone else. I don't even know if it's out there was like. TNT. It's all over the building right now. And I think it stood for like team not talent or something like that. Like where it's, it's one of those mantras that, like, Ooh, I wanna Montreal them. But the fact he didn't crown Rosen his quarterback right away. Like now he's gonna earn it. The fact that those young players are fired up. And the fact that he brought with him a lot of that patriots brain. Trust the they're going to be all right. Back to Houston and JETRO quick is no one in the media going nuts about the circus and dysfunction. And what Houston just did. It was not treated in the same light jets, and is it just the media market, that, hey John Maclean's the guy and this is what he says, and the local beat reporter reported at this way. So locally are good. It is. They got savaged pretty hard in the chronicle. Tom said. For whatever nationally. What Brian Smith of the chronicle rights or what my gain I? Is on the right track there. Greg saying saying locally, I think O'Brien's not that a Ryan in might be because of the relationships he's built with National League, which is another story. I don't think he's as popular locally as he is nationally, which is strange. This is an eleven and five team that won the division last year and had no first or second round picks and had no salary cap and they fired the him. Yes. One year into a five year deal and not one person on our network or ESPN is going nuts. Like the jets situation where they said, well, the jets were five and eleven six and ten six and ten three hasn't been in the DNA over the last decade for an unruly, but it's New York team to savage, the jets left and right. The jets have been the jets. Yes. Not. Is it fair? Yeah. No, I agree with Dan's fury over some institutional. That's what it is my hands outside. If I wasn't a jets fan, I probably enjoy it to the jets are one of those Franch franchises that people seem to enjoy to watch the, the train go off. The tracks. And then it's a bit of a pile on the Texans. Don't have that same situation to be fair there. There is one commonality among the jets of the last twenty years, the last name of the owner and hasn't changed. I think the answer to your question is because aller covered when somebody in the jets locker room sneezes, it's news. And nobody cares. What the that's, that's fair. Peter shrager. You've said it all. Yeah. You've done it. You came late in the sun. You never even not even any flop. Sweat just shows how comfortable you are in the setting and feel great SPF thousand follow Peter at. Pece. Rakes. S. C. H. R A, G S, a little show within a show. I feel like you guys should never be in locked in a studio again. You live in LA. This should be outdoors poolside in everyone's a little cooler a little looser. And if beverages were included I wouldn't of speed. Let's why. The people around this might not agree wrapping up. Thank you so much. And yes, watch good morning football. Follow Peters reporting on television and on the internet, and all that good stop. You're the man Peter, thank you. Thanks guys loved it. Thanks, peter. Pull side. Poolside. That was excellent great insight from Peter, and you could tell Peter had wanted to get that jet stuff off his chest for a while. And I don't know if he had the ability to do that on good morning football. But the shadowy league figures, maybe not aware that you were the shoe it for that to happen, because I think you, you are a jets man with with a. The most and that we can't believe that's gonna make it into the show, if it did I have no control over the cyber moment of the week. All right. So there you go. Tell Peter, who I respect most on. Good morning football. Book. All right. Here we go. Let's now before we go and by the way last year and the year before Al river on who's the head of -ficiating for the NFL, always the most fireworks, when Al takes the microphone and the XBox controller and goes over the rule changes and obviously with the pass interference. Opie and DPI now review -able. That led to a pretty fiery series of exchanges with a lot of the former players, especially we will get to that on. Let's say next week show. Monday show next week because we wanted to vote, a little bit more time and we don't want to run too long today. So Al river, Ron's state of the union at the NFL media summit will hit on Monday. But for now to close out today shows some general takeaways from the media will start with you. Chris wesley. Well, first of all, I'd say room full of talented people, that's why they call it the talent summit, and I'm always blown away by how strong minded and how talented and how am bishops the people in the room are? But I also took so many notes that my pen ran out of ink have my notebook and the big utterly unique. Humble brag no one has ever done. The big takeaway for me. Is there are two kinds of people in this room. The kind that make everything about themselves and every other human being on earth. Greg. Whatever I am. I one of those people you are not one of the people who makes it about. I wanted to hear what we're getting the corporate jug we're going to say that the last thing we do. I, I think Steve Smith being Steve Smith in every situation of his life is delightful. And we can maybe we'll talk about that talk about with riverine but he was given Reverend as much grief. It is not for the camera the stuff. Yeah, he's a lot of times in sports. That guy's funny. Like Steve Smith is legit. Funny has great timing has great comebacks right off the bat like I'm such a fan. He dropped some bombs, and it's the time in he the way he would suddenly unfurl, enable on the speaker. No. He's unique because I think we see a lot of athletes and he's only a couple years out of the game when they're couple years out of the game. They're reluctant to speak their minds a reluctant to be themselves. And he seems like he's one hundred percent Steve Smith, eighty nine all the time. Mark hang on for one second, because one thing this has been the third or fourth time we've gone to this end a lot of the similar beats, which that would lead me to sometimes tune out a little bit. When it's the same stuff is last year, but it was about in my mind, twelve hours ago that I was in a car up on Sunset Boulevard, after leaving yesterday's event with Brad Pitt a young of Paltrow, and Leonardo DiCaprio, and we were in a stolen police car. And then suddenly about fourteen seconds later, I was in a massive lake in a sprawling wilderness, the lake filled with milk, and I wanted to swim to shore, but all along the shoreline were hundreds of kittens licking the milk. And I just didn't know where to find my opening, and then I woke up and realized this was a dream that I had, and I wanted to share it with everyone that I knew that I was told yesterday by HR that we are not allowed to comment on dreams that we have in the nighttime space ever, again to anyone we work with and it is quite the. Disturbing to me is that does not seem like something. I'm not allowed share with my friends. That's not the that's unfair because we should all be able to hear that. What why it's a good rule is that creeps will use the dream cover to get creepy. I know but this is simply about you're just milk filled late again, full on sessile. That's how I can still tell you about that. Take way. Obviously a lot of talk about the raiders move into Vegas. It came up and sports gambling. All that I learned that former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue refuse to even fly over Las Vegas. Do you believe that story to be apocryphal or truth ridiculous? I don't know. Can you imagine can you imagine him? And if you're not connecting the dots that he was so against the idea professional football and sports gambling that he didn't even want to be in the air range of the mecca of gambling. But did he ask for the flight plan like? Like when he was flying coast to coast, I, I'm curious about that Howard Hughes level myth, but NFL networks, Omar Ruis remember, Sean Casey, your boy with the reds Amir, the mayor. Well, that's what really is, is amongst the talent that nicest men on earth. The guy is bipartisan could work, you could work both sides of the aisle, and he's a he's a big star in the world of politics. I think if he wants to be, and then my last takeaway is. Salonga event. It was the first day was essentially eight thirty until six thirty sitting in a an auditorium, and there are lulls not all the presentations, land, and one of prominent network face during one of the presentations, sent me what I approximate to be three hundred word text message explaining the nineteen eighty two film e t as a meditation on faith. Some just going to read you this was I I'm not joking. This was sent to me. Okay. This wasn't Mark. That sent was not Mark. It is a prominent television fixture chill. Chill will Mark out pretty quickly one of my favorite movies of all times, e t allow me to explain. Why seeing as I plan of effing time right now, the movie is a religious allegory which Spielberg has the night. But who's he kidding? ET is Jesus. I'll spare you the details for now. But would be more than happy to share later? Anyway. ET says the letter B when he sees it on Sesame Street on TV and Gertie replies. You said be good. The little bastard, then uses that line when he leaves and tells Gertie be good, some fake ass alien that doesn't exist breaks it down, minus all the religious bullshit. Other people use the weaponize their faith against others. It's great. So when you said be smart I said that, or whatever when that lady was going on for hours. It reminded me of ET. Same with this guy right now wrap it up. Feen. Wow. Review. Do you believe I need to hear that again? I'm more like hovering around who possibly Senate. Nailed it. Correct. I guess the same thing Greg did. That's correct. I do have to two more just quick ones. Okay. Number one. Most people, they don't mind if you talk about gambling, but women over the age of fifty five don't do it, don't they were gonna hate you learn that. So sorry to all the older ladies out there. Women over fifty whenever we've mentioned. Yeah. White women specifically. And then finally, if you're coming off the stage you just talked about HR anything like that. Don't do a this bump with the next person. That's coming up. I don't know. I just I just it makes me feel awkward. And it's just a tough moment in these these settings. I mean, it's even worse when the, the high five and fist-bump get confused, and you get the half and half sloppy one I saw that one instance as well. Wes now he throw to you and feel free to throw in another thought before you get to it. But we want to hear the official two thousand nineteen corpo- jargon. I'll say to my thoughts for the riverine section comes in the future, but nine thirty two AM were basically about an hour on the first day. And I wrote down. Wait, who sent the memo to avoid corporate buzzwords this year? And it's true. It was obvious that. Somebody has gotten to these people and told them not to now. I did catch them using weird words as verbs which delighted me to no end when somebody says that three times fast, somebody said, well, what if this team is ideas on that? Gee eighteen and we also got we'll offline that conversation. That's great. It's it. Let's offline this, I've got this one written down that wasn't a great, a great example, though of someone making it all about themselves taking out a total personal vendetta, and in front of forty it's a beautiful thing. So my favorite quote of the first day was, we sound like dinosaurs, even saying this. But there's so much more beyond the linear space. That sounds like a crazy guy that runs a cult whereas red sneakers, the whole group might not be far off. Yeah. I heard linear space a few times, and I'm still not sure what they mean by it doesn't matter what it means. It's just it's hounds good. What else and then really this was like leading off the game with back-to-back homers, one of one of my favorite people in the news, remarry unleashed, this one breath, if we can put a button on this point to a north star. Corfo jargons in one mad lives like hit out of the park right there. I love northstar so much. And I think that's about it. Like I said, I think somebody got to these people my boy Kingsley at one point said, this is a strange kabuki dance, which, I know isn't coral jargon. That's, that's a point to Japanese coach. And I think there's been a real push to your point in someone spoke it in some meeting somewhere that we were not invited to and never will be about. Let's look real transparent and genuine to these people. But then suddenly they slip back into the old habits and that's where the jargon starts to pop fourth the I think they just, you know, not a lot of above the treetops which not. No. I think somebody got to him. I think maybe a secretary push something onto a desk and said, these people said this a podcast and you got to change your message this year. All right. Good stuff. Excellent. Well done everyone Gooding. You erica. Thank you. I'm -solutely. All right. That's it for today. I always sound like a hostage. All right. So that's it for this week show Mark you're going on vacation. Yes. Family vacation visiting my parents and other people in New Hampshire next week. So not one of those staying in L A and walking in the alleyways while carrying a karaoke book, not one of those not unless I alone missed the plane. Well, enjoy yourself in New Hampshire which is in New England, which means a lot to you from New Hampshire originally from us Jesus. And they are very distinctly different places. I don't know. I don't know. We'll be back on Monday. We will hit the river on stuff, Mark. If you have any thoughts you want to offload, take it off line with me, and we'll make sure they get into the show. I think it's a good one. Yes. For a while. And then offline I will do that. You know, it's like two of the Treetops' here, we will be back Monday. So make sure you check it out. Thank you to everyone. And that's it. Stan heads of signing off for quite storms. The mailman the old boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. Dill monday. It was a long day. Poolside.

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Survivor | Outwit, Outplay, OutLIST | Best Survivor Product Placements

Rob Has a Podcast

2:19:58 hr | 7 months ago

Survivor | Outwit, Outplay, OutLIST | Best Survivor Product Placements

"Everybody'll what's going on. Bob sister nino and i'm very excited to bring you the first in a brand new survivor off season series where we are going to be taking a look at some of the best and worst lists of ridiculous survivor. Things on a new series. That we're calling. Outwit outplay out. List here on. Rob has a podcast and now here is the man. The co creator of this new off season series. Give it up for mr. mike boo boo. Mike how are you rob. I m pumped beyond belief. It's been six months talk survivor proper. But i do have to do. I have to get my tattoo changed now. Is there a misspelling. The new podcast. Yeah maybe you could just put like a sticker on that one card per decal over the a that. I can peel away at any point. Once if this podcast series ends great. Now i can go back to what it initially. We'll have we got you on video to show off your tat yet. I don't think i don't think so. I mean thought working great. Okay all right on instagram. If you want that kind of my dm's pixel by all rights. We are off to a great. Start very excited to say. We're going to survivors. Greatest product placement. Okay so we will get to that but let me interest. Third member of our panel today Once upon a time he said let's let's do a podcast about all of the greatest things that survivor tried to plug on. Its finales Which is similar turned out that other than tko. There wasn't a ton of things that survivor was trying to hoc audits. Finales joins us year today. Please welcome jason. ray jason. How are you doing great. Rob honored and grateful that you let me on this first episode of the series and my honor and gratefulness are brought to you by quicker. Wow delicious or gross well. The big canister of oats. That's like a survivor ration. Yeah that's the thing. Like jeff probst bargains you foreign exchange for your shelter like all right. I'll give you these oats but we're gonna take the tarp. Let me let me onto that. My precision the podcast is sponsored by by tender g. Infused fruit drinks bought to you by into really caught him. That at one point by by by Natural natural marketing. Yeah and this episode of the podcast is sponsored by rob is website dot com slash patriot. Checkout all the fun we're having over there including our first ever all patron brand steel. Where the three of us saw last night got together. Check out Jason rate as part of the new school patron tribe and we did our very first ever survivor brands. Deal with real live and it was so much fun. I made it for free. Available at rob has website dot com slash patron. You can check out that full of video and See how that all played out. It might of another brand steel on thursday and we we did off star wars brain steel. It's one of those things where like there was so much preserved that like once. We got the real wheel rolling really. Couldn't stop it you myself. And josh regular did a star wars survivor brain steel which was for lack of a better term out of this world. In my opinion. I think a very well received and very fun season on our part but may add. We'll be crossing the threshold when it came to simulations and actually having real life bodies and people to talk with when it came to simulating a brain steal season name was experiment that paid off immensely successfully from from my perspective and i think a lot of people's perspectives. There are many incentives to become a patron even in the survivor off season. And one of them is as you said. Rob this is a new survivor. Offseason podcasts series. In which you know we are taking suggestions from. The rob has a podcast patrons both in topics and in entries within the topic so again many many reasons to become a patron of off has a podcast. And now there's a new one you get to have first hand participation in what we're going to be doing here for the rest of the off seal trying to do more and more patron activities now. That big brother is In the rear view mirror where it should be okay so today we're going to be going through our list of survivor product. Placements mike how did you define product. Placements sure so. Basically what we're going to we're going to talk about. Essentially all the survivors sponsors over the years and to go to backtrack a bit as to the origin onus of this podcast because robinson have been going back and forth like it's been six months since winters at war wrapped with survivor not necessarily on the horizon anytime soon at least in. The american variety have forty seasons to ruminate on. Let's take the opportunity for maybe some of these joke. Your podcast ideas to actually become realities. And so we're gonna do what. Stephen fish back does not have the guts to do himself arbitrarily and reductive and list various things throughout twenty twenty years and forty seasons of survivor. Figured a good place to start which is actually one that was suggested a bunch in our patron group would be sponsors. So we're gonna be talking about all the survivors sponsors over the years. Basically any time you saw a reward or jeff salaciously talk about a brand or product that exists outside of survivor. That has somehow made its way past the fourth wall into this little island nestled. Home contestants are interacting with it in some way. Product placement and brand deals have been apart of survivor since its very first season. I think that that was one of the ways that mark burnett helped pay for the show he went to. Cbs and said that there would be Sponsors every single week that the castaways would fight over things like a bud light or a cadillac from target and that was one of the things that was in the show from its very first season. Probably heavier in its earlier seasons still very much just today. Jason was there any particular reason that the idea of things survivor was trying to schill. Jumped out you enough that what you wanted to go back and watch every finale of survivor wells less about what survivors trying to shows more about Kind of touchstones in time like the idea sprang from the very first survivor finale They pansies two guys in the audience and they are the reebok guys. Like who the heck are the rebound guys dave. Yes yeah doodle. Dandy dan dave were earlier. They were actually new. Dan and day that was doing three campaign right when they were like competing for the olympics. Freia so that was the first one. This one is more like a these two douche bros. Juuling different commercial spots and like doing stupid stuff. The and then i found other commercial that preceded that that pan into the audience was actually reebok commercial featuring bb from the first season. Yeah whereas you know. They hear a rustling in the trees and his. Bb runs out. He's like they're cooking a rat and he tells them how to cook the rat from the first season. Sonia was in that too right. I mean they got like the first two people. Do you believe stacy still minute appearance. Which is surprising. A rare non-litigious connotation with survivor. I think i saw saw bins of her with those two guys still. I've nickname so so that i that i Reunion got me thinking like what else is there to see and look at turns out. There wasn't a whole lot ideals a little dead on rival but it was. It was fun going through all the finale for sure. Okay all right mike. You've also incorporated some listing software here for us to go through as we get to all these submissions from the listeners. Rob a podcast. Yes so we are doing what the kids are doing nowadays and the twitches and on the streets and we are tearing up here This is something that. I have shamelessly and lovingly taken from the great amfar. Keeley and the tearless tuesday's he does on his own twitch dot tv slash ism. But basically what we're going to do is we have four tiers. Set up here and this is that's going to serve how we initially sort our sponsors as i go through them and then from there became sort within those sponsors. How things ranked so that. Hopefully by the end of this podcast we will have an unquestionable. Categorical ranking list of sponsors that we have in front of us from best to worst and numbered lists yes. We're talking this through that. I felt like that in robin. Keeping you to podcast. Once time we came up with a The king of the matt's We ranked all of the mats in matthew's in david's that are out there and we ended up walking away with a list of the greatest matt's in matthew's and that's what we hope to come away with at the end of every single episode of outwit. Outplay outlast yes. It's something we can go to the bank with You know admittedly as rob set sort of at the beginning of this podcast. These are going to be very silly ideas. We have a lot of survivor history to ruminate over. So you know you're not really going to see here are the rankings of the fifth placers or winners or seasons. We're instead going to vote on. Perhaps some of the the more eclectic the more miscellaneous yes up survivor paraphernalia. But as jason is alluding to you know these are things that have been part of the show since its very beginning in very weird very interesting ways and so this serves us not only our own ranking in categorizing but also a retrospective on twenty seasons to twenty years two decades survivor at this point. Now and we really want to hear your feedback on these shows so Let us know in the youtube comments on social media the patron facebook rope. Wherever can leave us. You're rob has a podcast Feedback hey it doesn't kill you. Talk about it on the survivor. Read it either definitely not ready to pick from all your poop posting put it everywhere oriole posting put it everywhere on social media right get survivor trending again. Let's do it all right. So mike has. The list came from submissions from the listeners. Or your yourself as well. So i i put some in there. We have some The the vast majority of them are submissions from the rha patrons of course there are some blind items that i that i neglected. I do apologize because throw in some at the last minute if we want to but it is a pretty girthy less so i think it'll be enough to sustain us for this podcast kind all right so mike give us the first thing that we're gonna talk about it and is this in any particular order name no particular order but you know what i think. Jason did a great job of teeing up one of our sponsors. I think we should start with reebok because that was one of the initial sponsors of survivor was a sponsor for the first four seasons. In fact it is a rare collector's item. Nowadays for buffs. That had the reebok logo on them. Because after season four reebok went by at least from survivors perspective. They then re they republished and resolve bush. Yeah exactly these these new buffs without the logo on them. So this is definitely a sign of the times. It was all over the buffs. Unfortunately i don't believe they got any reebok products. But as jason did mention there is a commercial featuring two actors by the name of stafford and don lee playing nate and brian. That played during the finale of survivor. Rob i pop that in the chat. If you would like to play we can all sort of take our minds back to the summer of two thousand and when bb anderson met the to frosty tipped and brian in this. Okay all right. i'm gonna go ahead and share that here on our youtube video and for the podcast. You should be able to hear this okay. Here is the aforementioned commercial looking like flaming yawn. Sure the noise. No flights continue. Okay then sport to the commercial. What the hell are you guys doing cooking. You can't cook grass outweigh you. Gotta have indirect heat and you gotta keep it moist brains in your head. What better advice. Go get some firewood. It reebok with the mx technology. Finish line absorbed. The shock guy. Right not cool guys. That was. Just be your mike rico. Go pass this or that's good. I mean just it's going to cut to these two guys in the pros make their way. These guys in the audience were these guys. We had the reebok guys were they. Donnelly jake stafford are jason. Are these guys actually olympic athletes. Or they're just douches. No no they're just douches. There was a rebound guys campaign. Like i wanna say eight years before that for the olympics were there were like actual serious athletes. Actually i look that up. Because i looked rebound guys said there were two olympic athletes. I look back at this picture. Now like these guys looked like serious olympic athletes. Then i found out the difference between the two and it's a very different campaign very paying. I mean jake saffir to looks like like if you couldn't get sean william scott for your movie like i'm sure you can get this guy. He totally has stiffler energy and energy exactly especially with this posed that he's doing right now. God i mean. I think people would have done anything to be sitting at that survivor. Finale especially to have these guys get like sort of a front row seat and have to basically gyrate towards the camera when it cuts them after this commercial where they met the great bb. I don't know if it feels like they got an opportunity that did they didn't know that they had at the time to be fair if i went camping and Heard a noise in the woods. And then i was then ambushed by bb anderson. I would be really freaked out. I'm so intrigued by the choice of bb of everyone. You're going to pick the guys like i'm going home. Everyone vote me out Why just think that production wives that. I think that that was the first person that was available to do it. And then they said. This shows a mega hit okay. Who could we get our ended up getting the second boot from the season to be able to shoot a commercial now or you tried to quit before the commercial shoot was over to do this. He goes into craft and washes his shirt in the the coffee. Everyone's trying to drink Commercial where there is no like no real tied to the product a blurb at the end. Okay so yeah reebok made stuff. But jason do you find reebok to be a very iconic survivor sponsor no besides a symbol being in shots in the show like they didn't really point to a much as saying put on your official reebok survivor of i don't know if they call a bus time. Bandannas that house about it i. It's just the symbol. There didn't really come into play much in the actual show. Yeah so for me mike. I don't know how you feel. This is not doing a lot for me. Yeah so let's talk about how how we're doing this because like i said we have four tiers that we are going to put these these various products into so it's an easy way to sort of stratified things so the top one is going to be worth playing for which means the best of the best. The tip of the top criminal cram. My life is fine. Means like that's pretty good to average eight. No hershey bar. I'll colby donaldson means like it's not. It's not great but it is not as bad as forget you go home good bye. We do not want to see this brand again. it is trash. I guess it's not trash but it's just it's an. It's an nothing sneaker for me. What do you think jason. I put him in the bottom tier because there wasn't much going on with yet or no. It's interesting because i do like the fact like it had at least it's mark on first four seasons but when i look back at like cheer point infamous reebok moments on survivor is none. There's none it really is embarrassed. Which i think a lot of that. We're gonna talk about had infamous moments on survivor that we will remember. So it's almost like. Did the brain do his job even like are remembering reebok survivor. Moments in twenty twenty. Yeah they stink. Not just the shoes. Yeah get rid of it. I'm glad to. I'm happy to start the second with forget you go boxing. I'm even tell you. Put them in the bottom tier. It's not like i hate them. it's that i don't care about them. So i think i think at the end of the day not caring is is when it comes to marketing. That's still most this is the death knell ripe Okay all right mike. What's next all right. Well let's let's go. Let's go from shoes to food. Sort of keep the sound in there. We have a lot of food here. But i'm going to go to popping and never stopping. We're going to talk about pringles. So you might remember. Pringles first appeared in survivor. Vanuatu there was a reward. Will they were given a trip to a waterfall and pringles meal but it came to super prominence in survivor palau when the along tribe won a trip to jellyfish lake complete with pringles and my ties. But not just regular pringles rob. These are survivor. themed prince pringle. Yes i actually have a couple of cans in my garage. Somehow that i'm afraid to open because i think there are biohazard now. I saw jason. That jellyfish lake is up there for one of the worst rewards. Ever could you. That i would. The last thing i would want is put me in a lake filled with jellyfish and soggy pringles. They don't staying at least. I don't know if that's going to help the criminal no way out. I would feel it touch my leg. No i'm done. The i'd rather just put me in a regular lake. What we need to be in their jellyfish out by that an option. Yeah yeah okay. All right The pringles of course. Now this was interesting because you could go and buy the survivor pringles macaws. Who doesn't want to eat chips with red dye number four questions on them. Yeah though i do believe along. So it's blue and i'm assuming so there are trivia questions because i believe at the time pringles had launched campaign with trivial pursuit where they put trivia questions on. Because nothing says. I'm eating chips better than asking people questions with a mouthful of chips and so we saw a sequence of the tribe asking each other questions since there. I'm assuming they lost every single question but it was still a fun. Moment to advertise went against survivor was in such zeitgeist that your junk food was talking about survivor. Okay jason how you feel about the survivor pringles as a product placement. I feel pretty good about him Because it's you know. They made a one specially for survivor. And it was you know at the with the trivia was kind of entertaining. So i put a pretty high up there pretty high up there. I think it was like. I don't feel like it was like conic so for me. I feel like it's a very meh in terms of Being a memorable product placement and i had cans of survivor pringles. Somebody sent them to me. We couldn't find them in the store. Okay so let's take a look at our list and see where we want to go. So i think it's definitely better than the shoes right so i think the question is. I think we're sort of between eight. No hershey bar in my life is fine. It's fine think find is the definition of the end fine. Yeah i think it's a it's a fun idea right like this is not just a survivor thing thing. This was actually factually survivor. There were some questions that were asked. I the reason that it's really sticks in my head. was i remember. During the seasons. They would play these criminals commercials constantly and they would use footage from the show and the one question. They kept showing over and over and over again. Stephanie look grocer. Asking which survivor player has a daughter named raya. And it was rupert. So damn well knew rupert's daughter's name by the end of that season. 'cause i heard about thirteen times over the course of one season. It's hard for pringles trivia question. Actually the other two ones that we heard or at least i heard on the episode. Were like who won cars in survivor. All stars which the answer is not rob sensor nino and that's all no matter and the other one that was at that point who had one more women or men okay. We'll get some this. This pops open renan afraid to open them. Probably all getting tenure. After that so a quick anecdote on the survivor pringles. So i this is probably like two thousand five. When i got sent the survivor pringles and a united still. I still have them in my garage. I think frail. Mary said that she would take them if i wanted to send them to her house. Like the sister of the traveling pringles can they believe that. She says she would accept them. So when i in the years. In between when i was doing survivor stuff and then when i started rob as podcast so i worked at a production company and there was a guy that his name. His real name was crisp. but everybody used Sort of like just goof on this guy and they called him cliff edge. Jerry gurgles time it was a similar dynamic and and he would just like eat the office out of house and home and so we had had the can of survivor. Pringles like just like like sitting around the office for only about like three years or so at that point in time and then We just like left it on the counter. Knowing that one day he would eventually eat them and then we told him like what the like. Two years expired And he was so angry about why. Oh god oh why would you leave those out. You knew i would eat them and you try to poison me. Nobody said to eat them. We're not gonna trapper you cliff. Yeah so he was he. A co worker wants very angered and that was easily. You know twelve years ago at this point. Yeah whatever clefts doing right now. I imagine cans. You have your garage from the same batch. I think somebody sent me like five cans of them and then this one one point in like two thousand eight. Somebody open them and tried to eat them. All right yeah. I don't think we've actually heard the verdict. I'm assuming these are plain flavored Original chips that regular chips with just like the red question on coconut flavored or anything. Not survivor themed. I can put on one of my n ninety five masks and don't can't show you like an instagram live like that. That'd be interesting. Look it's a long offseason. You might as well screw sparkle survivor. Quizzing source yeah. Okay lunar microscope. Let's let's check it out. It'll be like the al capone's vault of survivor. I'll go in my garage and start taking out weirdo survivor memorabilia. Something will actually be there geraldo on that he was going to be trouble is yeah all right mike. What sex all right. Let's let's fast forward a bit. Let's go to season thirty. Four the section oft forgotten sponsor. So much that it had to be brought up by the patrons for me to remember. It marshalls was a sponsor of survivor. Back in game changers soon we forget rob de marshalls lounge. Which was a key reward in survivor game. Changers i'll let jeff probst described at route. I put a clip in there with time. Code for you. I remember at the time this call one of the most lascivious jeff probst descriptions that we've ever had and that's what sort of syria my mind more than the actual marshals content itself. Okay all right so let's take a look at the marshalls lange from survivor game. Changers okay here we go. Let's take a look at that and here it is. You will enjoy a shower with don shampoos dry off in a gyp. Shin cotton toweling relax fluffy designer robes. Pamper yourself with low. Xix when you're good clean a little more comfort in the form of berg is apple regular. We're ever satisfied right now. Jeff what point in the game is this. This is pre merge here now this is like the second vote after the merger. This is the ozzy boot okay. The marshalls lands. Maybe this is a two hour episode twenty. I'm pretty sure it was. Yeah i think we were so we were so as haley. Ford stands united not haley. Ford focus stance. We were we were so we didn't even think about that. Second episode when indeed the marshalls lounge was the thing to get in that second hour. The app jason. I mean nothing really captured the imagination when you're talking about relaxation and the life of luxury like marshals go to all my luxuries side. But but say what you want about. Jeff if i have a single thing to so i'm giving it to him. Yeah i like when he talks about Lotions yeah it's And the interesting thing is that apparently all these lotions that the end up going to the actual marshals lounge all like coconut scented. Everything smells like the beach that they can't escape the first place. It feels like a little bit. I dunno black mirror. Ask that like oh you want to get off the island but you never can. It's in your hair now. yes i actually heard. Ozzy is still a working in robes and with lotions that book club is going to be the marshalls catalog. Yes that's right all right so this is interesting It's absurd but yeah not super memorable that this was like during the rob podcasts era. I would have said this was a game that this is a fake survivors sponsorship. It did not happen. Yeah it's weird. This is definitely the this is probably the most forgotten of the less that we're going to talk about. You know it is survivor. Game changers wasn't a radic season anyway. And this is also sort of in the category of stored that is not known for a spa offering a spa for some reason. Like marshalls is a department snore. You're you're going there to do black friday shopping now. Looking for egyptian cotton tau go to get cheap furnishings like a couch cover. Go to marshall's at marshall socks. That's a good spot for a underwear. Undershirt foot inside of a marshals. Yeah okay so. I still exists because i do have here my s- collection okay. I mean i guess you are your skin. It's pretty dry out there on survivor. Maybe want to douse yourself with lotion. Okay all right so let's look at where to place this and it's absurd but not memorable. That's the thing is like how much are we rating the actual because how much do you balance the versus like the actual viability of the product itself right because again. This is not a really marshalls. Nobody's being like. Oh i can't wait to go to marshall's for that fluffy bathrobe. It's more so like how. Why the hell is marshall sponsoring in island getaway. Here okay question. You've got that stuff from marshall's marcia just like we're just pay for the time on your show Giving stuff wherever you want okay. Marshals better or worse than reebok worse. I think reebok least has the commercial marshalls like marshalls had spots with thai trang. Maybe it would put it up there. Jeff probst greeting everybody hand. You'd be so excited. I could get like a chicken like chicken. Coop from marshall chicken at the marshalls lounge tie trang street ran across the marshalls lounge naked during the reward. Yes i certify that for a lot of people sands mark. The human were saying in response. I think that reebok has more of a connection to the show ultimately then martials though i think this is the beginning of of many th sponsors with being linked to the show proper. Okay alright what else. We got my. Well let's go from from a rough fairly ubiquitous. Let's go to one that. His bid a key part of more than ten seasons of survivor. I'm talking about sprint baby sprint okay. Of course sprints has sent many of various giant falcons to survive ryland sometimes with videos. They've given away one hundred thousand dollars at numerous finales sprint. So sprints began most richest right. They still exist you. I believe they merchants mobile. So i don't know. I don't know who got off better in that deal like the multi ahead conglomerate. There were prepared for a marathon. They really it was all in the name in terms of their business model was good for short spurts but that's about it. S long-term sprint. Basically was a major part of survivor. At least the name sponsor from seasons fifteen to twenty six even outside of the sprint fan favorite player of the season they were used mostly for loved ones videos. There were many a time when they would get a sprint phone. That had those video from the loved ones on it. I also recall in survivor samoa. They've won a sprint sprint. Palm pre and it had an idol clue on it as to where to go because at that time right phones with pictures for like it was like back to the future thousand fifteen flying cars. This is absolutely bananas. Don't go to twenty. So they want to show off as many features of this as possible and actually i found a press release from two thousand nine. It was about how not only has sprint. Sent a palm pre to the island but it was actually developing. Its own app four survivor where someone could have a player of the week competition which a sweepstakes encouraging fans to vote for their favorite player each week for the chance to win ten thousand dollars so even outside sprint favorite prize. They were moving to win the survivor or the person voted the person i voted though. I think there's one survivor that would very much have wished that he would've gotten ten thousand dollars com getting the popular vote each and every week. Okay all right. Jason particularly fond memory about sprint with survivor. All these remember all sprinter. Just you know bragging about the camera. The oh gosh. Can you believe that picture and veto this takes. I can't believe it You know our producer like off camera feeding them these lines Yeah as my fondest memories of as like obviously these are ya reduce and thinking why. Why are iphone sponsoring this. This is this. you'll play before the iphone. So that's that's your answer right. There surviving played happen. The iphone eight half not. Yeah all the phones are hilarious. If you go back and watch those episodes they're like so gigantic and ooh. Yeah well. I think they're really trying to tell the law these sponsors they're trying to benefit from the idea of people deprived of creature comforts right. Thank you like really going for the any port in a storm. Angle of listen if you passed upon pre in the street you wouldn't give it a second glance at that point sprint for the survivors meant family visit like sprint like box. God we're getting our family visit Was less about the phone seeing their families. Yeah and it did seem though that the sprint fan favourite award like there was a little bit more to it than the cea award where. It's just random where she's just going to give money to whoever she happens to liken that season but i do feel like that for the us sprint. Fan favorite. Mike i mean. I don't have the list open in front of me. But i think it was sort of encouraged by you know who would play. A hard game is that is fair to center. Let's play a fun game. Let's see if i can name all the sprint fan favorite players here because we start with james clement. Two times over he wins in both fifteen and sixteen. Then we get a series of winners. We get Bob crowley and then we get jt. Then we get a double header of russell hands. He wins both nineteen thousand. Nine hundred twenty unless say twenty one was jane. Bright twenty. Two boston rob twenty-three was ozzie. Twenty four was kim twenty-five lisa. Well chill out malcolm by a hair but then he comes back to win in and beats out. Brenda in twenty six. That's pretty impressive. Impressive yeah although you started with the double. Jesus i started with the sprint one. Not like the serie. Ozzy yaman natural fan favorite price when the cars. Yeah i don't know if yaoman he's not considered actual sparta this list of fan favorites. But yeah you nailed it. Yeah so. I mean i guess to your point i think it was like i think it was just very beloved characters for one reason or another but they were big players or big characters case. It's like james clement. For example he was definitely the ladder. But if you look at someone like boston. Robin redemption island for instance. He was the former depends on the season as well granted if there are not many options to go for but luckily you know i think that sprint fan. Favorite players sort of went away as the third to wayne as the social media community around survivor wax. Because now i imagine a sprained fan favorite award right now. I'm actually. I'm okay with it being dictatorial. His hands right now. Because i don't know how much i trust survivor. Fads terms of giving away money here. Okay all right so jason. Let's go back to the list. And so then. Let's see what we should do in terms of our sprint. Fan favorite Do you have a sense of where it should go. A thinker should go pretty high. Up is a pretty big part survivor for a long time. And you know it was. It did have huge product placement inside the episode at least one episode of season. So they can go pretty high up. It's gonna be the one in the screenshot of ben. Browning and ashley is the symbol of the palm pre. Okay all right. Can i ask why it was i. I found a shot up the palm pre and it went into close screeches. I know it's hard not in the running for no ounce of ten thousand dollars just for that that's what they're thinking. Okay all right better than marshals. That's definitely better than marshals located. I would. I would argue better than reebok reebok pringles. That's a big question. Now would you. Would you put it in the top tier. They'll it's still in. My life is fine for me just in terms of doing this. I'm going to be very protective of the of the top tier that you like that. If we want to have like a big drop off between the best of the best to me it's gotta be a no doubter if it's going to go to the top sierra very harsh crater yeah so how many how many are in each year. We can do whatever you want. We can do whatever we want. A share being mr earn. I'm not married to the tears. I'm more interested in the numbered list. This is just place holders for me. Okay yeah so right. Now it's our top seed is what you're talking about. It's the best so far. But i don't think it's the best that there possibly could be but i think it stuck around for five years for a reason it. It certainly has made its mark on survivor as apparent from the fact that it gave away the over. A million dollars to vary survivor contested. All right what's next mike. All right. let's let's go let's go. Let's go old school again here since we were went a bit middle school. I wanna talk about visa. These okay so much like the visa card. Yes a much like reebok. This was a bastion of the first four seasons. They used to be a reward in each of the first four seasons where they would go away and a nice little rendezvous and jeff would go. Don't worry guys it's on me. And he would flash his visa card. Evidently that entire reward was bought and paid for by these a proper. Okay all right. There was a jeff probst credit card. You'd go unrewarded. Then put it on the jeff probst card. It was almost like the survivors. Were having so much fun. Committing fraud in stolen jeff props identity identity theft if you actively say. Here's my card use it. You're allowed to like. I don't think you really allowed to just give paschal your credit card and then By things as you sign lexical big tip the election. Africa was i act like it was his. I watched that when he ended his as like. Oh yeah here you go ahead and charge it up Yeah i think that jeff needs to put his card on file and say those guys are with me really allowed to give his credit card. But that's a performative aspect of this because in in africa they. I can't actual credit card. You're gonna win and it was like you know the whole carbon copy Gives us time. The one thing. I also remember is that i don't i believe it's been a fake credit card number every time but i do recall discussions that people pausing their stuff and be like i got jeff probst credit card number the three digits on the back guests at the nations. Jason security co was a thing back. Then i don't know wild things were so frivolous back in the early two thousands. Yeah okay so. The visa credit card any notable uses for it. We know lexin big. Tom went on a balloon. Ride alexa mcdonough on a balloon ride. We have the very first one was when sean went on that yacht trip to see the captain aka his dad. Tina went on online shopping spree after she won a reward that we might talk about a little bit later. Actually and then you also talked about paschal and elliot's doodoo meant event with the big tip. Yeah okay let's take a look at the board and see where we're going to put the visita credit card. Okay jason. how you feeling about this visa credit card. I don't think he's meticularly memorable. It was part of four seasons. But it was a very small part. I would probably put in between sprint. Pringles in between sprint rails. Okay all the way up on the second tier. I would personally put. I put it at least below pringles. Personally i don't know what it is. I think they the remember the survivor. Pringles if you had told me like oh you know no. There was no way jeff. Probst had a visa for the first four seasons. I'd be like okay that that's fine but the pringles are something that definitely sticks out in my mind. Yeah the only thing saving it here for me is the fact that it actually says jeff probst on the visa. Which is ridiculous that mike. I also remember once a month. You did a podcast with jordan. Par har- talking about the movie batman and robin of course with the infamous bat credit card. Yes that man has a similar credit cards of this right. Yeah i mean who would have thought george clooney and jeff probst will be spoken in the same breath but here we are. I mean luckily this is not a survivor. Themed credit card. She don't remember if they did survivor. Theme to be says in honor of the occasion. Obviously jeff when it have one. But i wonder if they went that far. I don't think so. I don't think they have that. I actually. I even think it's still too high the visa credit card. You ain't no hershey bar. I think it's probably lower than reebok. You're putting it right above marshals. Yeah i don't know. I would put it above reebok because reebok was only like the reebok. Memorabilia was only really on one season even symbol was permanent like meaning the played a part in each one of those four seasons. Some way ever under the name reebok shows. I miss that. I'll keep it ahead of reebok. Drop it to that tier. I i can settle on that i think. Just what do you think yeah. I think that's good settled. We've settled the bill. Put it on my car. All right all right. We're going to step aside real quick from our special survivor. Podcast talking about the greatest product placement in survivor history to tell you about echelon fitness products and we are blessed because the first lady of podcasting is here. Huge fitness enthusiasts. This professional used to have a website called. She loves loves working out. And i thought that she was be the perfect person to talk about. 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Okay all right the call thank you so much and now back to the list mike. What do the let's let's. Let's go to a big one here. Yeah let's go to the first of our cinematic deep dives in this podcast and it's a big one quite literally. Talking about gulliver's travels the hit. Jack black jason segel film. That was advertised in survivor nicaragua. Okay all right of course Very notable big big reward first time survivors went on a movie reward. Now you called it a hit. I'm interested to know. How much did gulliver's travels at the box office. Looks like it earned back. it's money and then son. It was one hundred and twelve million dollar. Budget may twenty seven two hundred thirty seven only in. I think it might have been that survivor. bump Yeah a lot of people say jack black's finest movie gulliver's travels that's a bit of a screw. You kidding kidding okay. All right so gullivers travel Boy what a weird marketing pitch that jason the is it the ad executives for gulliver's travels like okay we got an idea how about What if we built a survivor reward around us People like survivor right. Get people to come out and see us has. Our movie has nothing to do with survivor. The thing with these movie rewards. Jeff always try to tie the theme of the movie to survivor. Which like serve. You tying things to it would be very important. Well so jeff does say when he describes the reward he says the moral of gulliver's travels is it doesn't matter how big you are on the outside matters how big you are on the inside which really could be paired with his lotion talk but besides that being like it's just like you win survivor. You've lasted this long. You should sit through. And i mean it's also ironic that this is the episode where neon and purple kelly also quickly games. Evidently gulliver's travels was not as much of an inspirational movie at. That's the moral of the story. We've had shallow. Hal as well as other product placement here. This is what you look outside jack. Black film festival. Maybe mid king kong. He's a giant ape. Doesn't matter what you are on the outside even more memorable than the movie itself and the roof kelly. Quitting was dan limbo on that big chair swings so they had a theme challenge around aware they had to. It was the return of chewy gal rob in that they you giant dummies that they would call gulliver to carry through all of these obstacles and dan. Lembo did not have to participate and got the a giant shared dangling. His legs like he's a my son in his high chair to while he waits for the other team to get there you know. Just do a little. I m d bags here on jack black That it is it fair to say that this is i mean. I'm trying to figure out exactly where jack black's of film. Career went wrong. Wear that one point in the early two thousands. He's a big box office draw. I guess gulliver's travels does end up being a big financial hit. But i don't think that he has another big movie hit this. I know that people love john lack. I don't know if you count like kung-fu panda count. That i've actually voice. It's not like he's not like the likeness of jack black but he's still playing a writing the record. Yeah he the sequel to kung fu panda comes out twenty eleven. Okay so he was. At least getting i m realize i felt that gulliver's travels was a pre entire kung-fu panda series. Consummate handed the original. One is all the way back in two thousand eight men. There's a couple of specials in between men. And i know that. Probably the more of the the biggest project that he's affiliated the lately is the jumanji reboot been pretty funny. You know that has kevin hart. Who wants time. Advertise his own show on survivor finale. Some linkage there. But i think that he's a a excessively there. I think as far as a starring vehicle peaked in school of rock and that was about it. Yeah okay all right so not to go too. Far down the gulliver's travels rabbit hall all right so here we are gullivers. Travels of course the iconic image of dan lembo sitting in the giant chair who could forget. Yeah i. I'm gonna put in an argument that i think this might be worth playing for. Look there's gonna be another one coming up. I think is more infamous but like you said like you. Never forget your first. This is ridiculous. I love that. They theme the challenge after it including a giant share that they had to build just for the sake of this challenge and while the movie does not bring any sort of like raucous attention that the other film that we're gonna talk about might it does have been recalling it like. Yeah this is a good flick. It's good enough for battery. Good enough for you. Film critics screw off rajouri. Burt young listening to ben. Ry jason rotten tomatoes of gulliver's travels. What's your prediction. we'll talk. critics fans are both. Okay gimme gimme the critic rating critic. I'm gonna go sixty to sixty two high forty yeah Thank you both overshot. It that it's looking like twenty twenty. Okay don let me does but let me just double check that. My my page is taking a little bit of a long time to load on the rotten tomatoes maybe rotten tomatoes could be down right now. Yes everyone's rushing my god we've got to see okay gulliver. Let's say all rights and they're mad at my adblocker on. I'm sorry okay if somebody skips the ad on this podcast. I don't say oh. Actually you can't listen to the rest of this podcast hit that. Go forward fifteen second button. We'll know the point of this. Podcast though is to acknowledge the advertisements that exist in this in the shell. I think it only makes sense that you take down the ad blockers here. It's what you know. What would reebok do the podcast yeah. Bb anderson come out and and yell about this. Okay actually would've been interesting adblocker. I only know how to make seven ass this ad. Washers out. here you're gonna have to move on from this page. Okay all right so this is number one here. Yeah i think this is number. I think this is probably one of the most infamous when you think of like what are some moments good or bad of survivor sponsorship. I think gulliver's up there if only four the for the dan limbaugh but the actual movie itself nothing very good the battery of it all. I just think it's pretty iconic. He's got a double quit like that. Yeah that makes bush. I say i'm done with this game. I think she liked the movie. The movie bad another. She denied highly to see. I think i also think it wasn't the movie for. I think was her being like. Oh i'm gonna. Yeah little jason segel. I'm on board thirty three on the meta score and give you that okay and we've never done a movie. Review of gulliver's travels or the other survivor movies. We have not and look. This is a long and dark need to. We might wanna take a dive here and get tied gown. Chocolate gulliver's travels all right go. Travels is in the top tier mike. What's next all right. Let's flip flap back to the old school here. We're going back to the australian outback or some dow retail hose and mountain dew in episode. Sick games yeah survive of survivor. The australian outback jeff offered a sumptuous picnic. For the winning castaways. Little did they know that they would just be waiting. Several bags of doritos and a bunch of cans of mao in do. Yeah and i hit asked tina wesson recently about this like did they make you say that. Or do you just love doritos. She loves her favorite though. I think they might pay jerry mandy. Who just yells do the do baby from the dell dell to asker that on the recent talking with episodes jerry springer the big time when they get the reward and an african remember the do so but yes some doritos amount. Do you have had a couple of other appearances. Actually it appears later in the first ever survivor auction. Where nick wins. Four doritos for the low price of sixty dollars. Four three dose neapolis. Tina says it's more than ten dollars. A chip anchor for eighty dollars. Wins a glass of mountain dew. And then she. She has that reaction then because jeff take gives them a chip and a sip to pass around before the ward and she freaks out and as jason mentioned in africa. One of the rewards all you can eat buffet stock to the rim with mel indu in fairness the glass of mountain dew might be the way to go on. These people have not eaten have nothing in their stomach. That a copious amount of mountain dew might be the last any humid. The first drop hits your tongue in a massive headache from this. That i don't i don't want to give survivor contestants. The same thing. We give like east sports players. You know perfectly war. Kids from talladega nights some burritos manu. Yeah they don't want to be like. Oh congratulations you stand on a perch for three hours. Here's a thing we gave to this kid. Who's playing gun roadblock for six hours straight Yeah maybe a mountain dew might be good reward. Like during a sequester mini. Yeah exactly only seven. We're droning it to your house okay. All right the doritos and the mountain dew. Okay what was the last time they appeared on the show so it was that early on. I believe after season three. I do not believe neri high nor hair of dough retail no or mountain dew. Okay so. I'm not sure i'm not sure why. They decided to pull out there because they were very prominently featured. Maybe maybe they said you know what we went on top. We had jerry mandy the queen of all survivor at that point. Say do the do. That's all we need right now. We're going out on top. Well mike. i'm not sure if this is on your list. But they took a big downgrade the season after mountain. Dew sierra mist miss the season after that rob was you with the fridge of coke so they definitely want other directions but these soft drink options. Yeah i mean Coke that's mainstream sponsor and they never came back must not have been happy when guys ruined roger shutting it down. That's the that's roger. i think ruined the sponsorship. Okay all right then The doritos okay. Better or worse than marshals the marshals. Yeah i would definitely put. I put it above reebok. I it above visa. I depend on my above pringles. Different goals led the berkeley. If we're going chip versus chip here looks like i think going to edge out pringle so right now it's below sprint. Fan favorite but ahead of survivor. pringles jason. How do you feel about that. I would personally behind pringles. Only because of the survivor is specified pringles. But i'm fire leaving it there okay. I'll wait until tina western can save pringles sending them to pronunciation. That's been stuck in our heads for niane twenty years all right. Let's leave it where it is okay. Let's go back to the well. Mike what do you got all right. Well speaking of well. Let's talk about some well drinks which might be available at one favorite. Sit down restaurant of krishna patel we are going to applebee's applebee's okay app. These shows up. It's just in season thirty nine right. Yeah this is. The most recent sponsor that we have experienced applebee's has made its first appearance. In season thirty nine it was the post swap reward and this might be the most cumulative milking i've ever seen of a reward reaction. Yeah i remember these contestants. And then when jeff probst announced that it was applebee's do you remember how much they were all went nuts. I can. I want to know how many takes have any takes. It took to get the reaction to get an ever like missy was rather report some applebee's nobody else has ever been as excited for applebee's yeah. I don't think even people that have like taking a cross continental flight and landed in the fiji air per like applebee's fine. I think the more the okay i like. Applebee's the there's definitively applebee's just from experience. No which is why. I don't know where they got the apple these from kids. It's authentic jeff describes it's loaded sizzling fajitas smothered in hot caso buffalo wings spinach artichoke dip case a d. As the blue ribbon brownie but of course the signature. Drink one a favorite teacher. Tommy sheehan this shark bull shark of playing with the gummy shark shark bowl. Yeah so it's It's the the lavishing praise upon applebee's does not stop after the description highways. So when boakye goes they're they're they're porn it on like that hot says this is an experience that he will never forget in his life specifically not being on survivor or winning survivors specifically going to applebees in meiji. Okay here is the survivors reacting to applebees the biggest reward of the season. We wanted to make it special. We brought applebee's to feature. I'm convinced he said something else that you can make them getting their reacting. They cut that together. I think now someone should photoshop. The beatles landing at jamie with like the heat and the case of the buffy apple peels. That's the reaction. People were losing their minds over a place. You will go after high school play. When you're makeup still caked on your face and like no other places are open and ask a separate the check sixteen as on jeff probst credit cart. That one's pretty early in the wasn't it episode five or south missing food that much to me like that crazy over applebee's yeah okay applebee's now it only came up once but it wasn't memorable there was i mean this is probably the most memorable reaction twice a product placement we've ever seen but to your point how. How much is that going to buoy. Its ratings much like a gummy shark in a bowl of alcohol. All right so applebee's okay. Certainly more memorable than marshall's right. Yes that's definitely going to be our low water mark for valid reebok above by above reebok of guy. Does it be visa. i. I'd everywhere wanna apple. Beatles yes i guess. The question is like when we're looking at our chip barrier here is how how's it. Pair with the pringles or with the doritos in the mountain deal was part of the story. That charisma really wanted to go to applebees. Hundred sit down. Restaurants will my favorite compliment. I have heard someone give someone else in quite some time. it's like it's like the equivalent of kiva calling you his favorite gentile rapport like in a even in even more specific variety. You're my favorite bearded gentile All right does applebee's for us. The chip threshold jason. I'm going to say does. Wow on the other side of the chips besides team. Nobody will really seem to indiana the doritos. Besides i mean doritos amounts and do is known for like the chintzy of it plus the do baby and dough re toes but i think the cumulative effect of every one bay basically nearly institutionalizing themselves over the idea of eating applebee's appetizers in fiji is just so unbelievable kennett beat sprint. That's tough because sprint has so much lasting value there are a lot of sprint moments riley. Jason talked about like in heroes vs villains then taking pictures at those spurting geysers like so many family moments around it. So i feel like applebee's is for lack of better term like a flash in the pan that sprint is more of like a nice saute or a marinade. Okay all right. We say eating good in the neighborhood is at them. Yeah i believe they still have that phraseology. I don't know what's going on over at applebee's hard time to that will be so. I think twenty nineteen. I do not think there are a sit down restaurant. I don't think it'll be in the restaurants here on risking cova. Don't risk getting cova for your shark. All right mike what is next. Let's go a bit outside the box here outside the but unfortunately no taco bell sponsorship yet and survivor. So i'm gonna go with the internet. The internet is sponsor were going to survivor the australian outback. It's a reward to fix wishing or award. I mentioned before. Do you remember the australian outback. Internet cafe yes of course so the final five or given the opportunity to chat with their loved ones. What was very clearly aol. They couldn't show anything very clearly. A big ass. I mac and they couldn't necessarily show so i can't really say that it's like it's putting forward the brand of aol or or apple. But i feel like the concept of the internet is just so new and has never been done again in survivor of allowing people to essentially chat their family line viruses that i feel like it might earn. Its way in here. Okay all right. Jason jeremy strong feelings about what is the sponsor here. I guess i'll go with the internet. The internet the internet is a sponsor so in defense of it. It was a memorable moment. Like i went to go research or for this podcast could've sworn sworn. Aol will the sponsor of this. But they're nowhere mentioned are or anything like that so it is memorable for sure W for tina talking to her family like you see like Eighty like yeah like like ten years. She's going to be on the show with with With her mom and to his girlfriend carrots but he's also like the world's slowest hyper new. This is why. I feel like the internet espana because the internet with so so new to people that like titas husband type in all caps like. He's an egg person on twitter anymore. You don't do that anymore. Shouting very big ass. Like satellite dish like mega little hut practical or not but they just had a set dresser. Okay so i would say that this is memorable but not as technically not a product placement it is i guess unintentionally advertising this brand new marvel that was the internet in early. Two thousand one. So that's gonna make this very difficult to place on our list because it doesn't go here. Okay i to bring in a couple of day matthews here. Just throw you off your trail here all right. Well this look. I appreciate being here and i think that'll be the challenge. So is the computer. That wasn't a sponsor more icon than marshall. I think it is. we have a new benchmark. for lowest. the veterans and marshall's i think marshalls is the line that you have to sorta step over if you want to make like barely competent in terms of in terms of product placement. And i would agree. Because again had moments in your despite the fact that there was no technical product placement so i guess marshalls for actually failing at their intended product placement. An unintentional product placement works better than theirs does whatever the commercial for it. Actually this would be a great commercial right of like someone. Boston and on an island proposing to their girlfriends on an i mac. Typing one letter a minute. Two thousand. Yeah who is elizabeth chatting with. Her family was chatting with her family. Maybe a tim hasselbeck no. I don't believe she's slid into tim. Hasselbeck aol dmz at no. You've got mail notifications tim hasselbeck. He's got some games to play. Okay all right then is it better than reebok. It's more memorable but it's not a product. There's the rub. put it above reebok. I'm above all right all right. Can it be better than visa vs. I'll leave it right where you get mike. I feel like the use. They actually used the visa for the internet shopping. Spree that tina one that made her husband type in all caps. I'm assuming iraq. Further kids surpass the actual private fourth effect cannot pass the primary effect. Yep alright service. The product need the computer for the e. Commerce can't have the computer go ahead of the credit card. Do you think if they have this reward in like two thousand eighteen thousand nine hundred and would be like some sort of bitcoin stuff going on with people using the internet. I don't know if bitcoin really was getting used to buy a lot of things. Not maybe inspired fire tokens even earlier than it did. Yeah bitcoin his. Little fire tokens of currency like Sure i guess so they see. Don't worry we'll horde them. These might pay off some day. Oh they don't okay. i'll give them to somebody else. Now you probably get credit card to buy that. I make five thousand dollars back in. The thing is the size of their camp. It looks like it. Looks like two and a half keith. Heads tall Yeah okay. They turned it into the boston. Rob statue i think eventually it wasn't a prop department. Eventually they said okay. Let's just put some plaster tag low lying in the back for a while. We could make a giant twenty-five foots tach out of this. Okay all right. Let's go to the mac go. What's next my all right. Let's go back to our department stores here and we'll see if this clears the marshalls meridian. That seems to be the first you were going to sears. No zero pretty profound effect on a survivors seasons. I was a reward in season twenty. They had to pick through the sears catalog and not the one that lets most is lack. Go crazy with the ogling. He does of women in there. Believe the the villains got to pick out some items in a big ass crate that with them the entire time but sprint us more pertinently known for the fact that during seasons twenty one and twenty three there was a sears casting contest. Yes that got two contestants on those seasons. Yes i know. One was jimmy t in survivor. Nicaragua who was the second person that would be rick. Nelson the cowboy sally they nailed it they were nailing it over. Let me see. I found the press release. Actually because this is the first ever survivor casting call contests and you weren't guaranteed a spot. Basically you submitted your tape and then the top ten selected videos will be open to the general public for a vote and then the winner would be flown to los angeles to audition for a spot on the show. So not even a guaranteed seats on those tribes. You basically guaranteed to get audition in front of the producers. Okay alright sears. Of survivor contestants Okay the now defunct sears. Their spot on survivor heroes villains even in an iconic season was not enough to keep the doors. Open over at sears. Yeah maybe the heroes had one people would have been more spirited like well heroes us for years products like. Oh those rascal the villains never mind. Okay i feel like that. They are more iconic for the contests jason than the actual reward. What do you think yeah. I would agree with that I actually don't even. I didn't really even recall the series in the episode before mike senate So you add probably put a pretty low. Okay all right. Let's go to the board. Go to the big board and check out what's going on here. alright sears. Is it better than marshall. This across the marshalls meridian. I think it does lessen the fact that sears is actually had an like. I do think it's going to be this is going to be substantially impacted by the fact that sears has had a hand in casting to people across two seasons that does say something. Say what you want to about future malcolm and rick nelson but the fact that their their appearances on survivor. The tv show are because of sears. Needs be acknowledged here. Okay all right jason. They better than the reebok sneakers which you could buy at sears. I was saying no no That's where i was bike. How do you feel. I think it's better. I don't know i i would put in. Good is jimmy t. They gave us. Jimmy t i would put in. Stri might be so bold as to put it in. My life is fine. Because i just think a slow down slow down well let me also read. That are not josh. That that rick and jimmy t were not the only people that were put on the cast were found i would say from the sears campaign call to other people from survivor south pacific which warn guests as to who those people are Elise that no at least emoto was not from sears. let's see was it brandon hansa. Somebody ordered russell hands out at the seers catalogue roaming around empty after the last one in the warehouses so like all right. I guess they're not the bread enhance no unless in survivor. Wakey might be lying to me here. In which case. I have egg all or do all over my face. Apparently papa bear. It's real it's happening was cast through sears. And so was sofi. G clark. Dot cast from sears. I don't know your a texter right now. I want you to tech sophie. Right now at ascot cast. I'm going to a text sophie. Okay all right. This is a new new foe. Who this were you cast on. Shaw gonna get blocked for this week. Cast on survivor through the sears casting contests we shall find out this. Is i guess. Survivor mystery so what executive they have to do. Is this series contest. They had to do like a miniature version of a typical survivor video where they had to give a thirty to sixty second video of themselves explaining why they think they could win. Survivor series exact side. Like feifer like you should put these guys audition weird serve alternate path right because like okay. Would you rather make a two minute video. Or i guess a thirty second video. That could give you a larger pop bias sears. but also it's only thirty seconds. It is like one sixth. Six the amount of time that you would usually get dashing video assuming sophie do actually come from sears sears. Try to like claim or win. As the last grasp at like sleep at what sears did to survivor. So what you being our sears commercial release yeah okay all right. Let's see we'll see if we get an update on that all right so for me. I could put them ahead of the sneaker. But i think they're still behind the fake Computer i guess. Sophie answer affect your ranking Well if we get an answer might affect all right we shall see. We'll come back. We'll come back if we get an answer raining. The dalton ross meet the cast and he says here well dad. Mark anthony caruso and so fiji clark were found through through sears so we applied delete continue for these hard hitting scoops about how people got cast on survivor move over sierra and the taco truck from survivor token jeans. Here comes so sears. E g clark Rob sex like. Oh my god and found out. Okay we'll see. Let's see if we get an update on that She might just delete my number okay. Let's see we'll come back to that all right well. Let's see tv out. See that's me. I had to move it up. I hate sears and i feel like when i was a kid. My parents used to go there. It was so boring. The only thing that was good about it was that there was a mcdonalds. There it'd be so far in sears. That would be like the highlight of the you know. My childhood is not a happy story is just that i have nothing to do with my parents. Taking me to all these department stores being so bored wandering around aimlessly and then gets go to mcdonalds a series of car like four years ago for christmas from my mom. I never went to go like some tires or something before. They went out of business. Like what is this like. Why would i ever go to the store. Yeah i guess the thing is though. I mean they had more of an impact than marshalls which is why. They're passed the meridian right. 'cause like while i wouldn't say that sears is known for its i guess it's its staffing. If that's apparently what sears has had its impact on in survivor. it has at least provided more utility and more long lasting on iraq. Apparently not lots of lots of durability on the mac as well. I think we'd drop that thing off of off of a sears. It'd probably still be okay to use to talk to appease. Okay all right mike. What else do we have her. Let's let's go. Let's tackle a big topic here so obviously cars have been a huge part of survivors. I fourteen seasons. I'm going to hone in on one in particular. But because there have used as sort of like a marker for cars in general. But i gotta go. Let season two before walter white. There was colby donaldson and his pontiac. Aztec loved the pontiac gas tech. And you say season to that. Richard hatch wanna pontiac cass tech. As well and cesar right i remember they. They shot the alternate ending's right. Were like they. They got out of that call that got out of the airport and they sat in the car. And they're like wow. I'm looking at my million dollar. Check my new pontiac as lever. One got pontiac aztec and jason. Do you remember what the selling point is about the pontiac as tech. Yes you could turn the back into. A tent. Could have a great night with your mommy. Yes yes well. That's for colby. And you know what i was like. Wow i am a survivor fan. I live with my parents. Perfect hamesh wait. So you're gonna live out of your car. Was that like the selling point of now. I can finally do it without feeling. That pathetic. look official now. I thought mike. And i'm like in my head. I'm like well like like. I'd like to date at some point but i live with my parents may be. Maybe i felt like this was like moving apartment on. Wheels isn't gonna live in the car at the azteca rocket. This was how my twenty one year old brain works. Well i think if you were to take honey home they might just stop at the back of the car because it has the most garish looking back. I have ever seen in a vehicle in way and me about the women that i used to know my pets. But the actual back of the pontiac aztec is horrifically angular and it's is obviously is car ever absolutely terrible and you could tell again. This is kobe similar. To what jared. This is a guy that knows what. It's like to make or just trying to make a name for himself on tv. So he is selling the crap out of this pontiac aztec like. Wow look at that interior. And i think he has a confessional says like these are some of the neatest amenities cars ever had specifically hyped up the idea of a speaker system in the back of the car you could. I don't know let's some books on tape while you fall asleep and your net. Yeah and it also is featured prominently through breaking baths so i think that that helps make it more iconic. Yes the car of meth dealers in albuquerque. Okay all right. So i have some updates yes okay. So sophie clarke has gotten back to me about this info. And here's what she had to say. She says that. I was not chosen as top ten. But yes that was how i applied and how they originally contacted me. Let's and i asked her as sears. Didn't like you enough but casting did. She says correct papa. Bear to yeah. This is exactly why they're out of business if judge their part. We should've seen it coming when they decided to push forward rick nelson above a sophie g. Clark wow who raquel that overhead during the whole like the whole season. Yeah yeah well. I got shows of you didn't so she got the last laugh like who's laughing now who's got more money than has right now is at snape worth All right so so we gotta go to the board here. Because now i think we have to replace sears and also the pontiac put them lower down that they do they put it. They had a winner. They were the introduction. Will winter in this series is she would. They didn't have her in the top ten. She got she got on in spite of sears. Sears that he want to push your four. So the below the meridian. Is that what you're say you might have to put them below marshals for this injustice. Just down how sears is last. Yeah i think you're anti sears. Rhetoric is coming out right now gentleman. I put them ahead marshals. Like i could split the difference but there behind the shoe at least for me. I'd be fine with that. Okay all right better than marshall. I think the as tech is gonna go on a little bit of a variety here. Yeah i think we're going. I think we're at a drive. Pass a suggestion to put it in the suggestion on in my life is fine but i don't know how you guys feel barreling through stream vicious your sound effects. Christmas is driving this all right so it's up. Is it better than the pringles. Yes yeah i think i think it's fair than the pringles. It was the prize in the first. Susan's yeah which i think. Better than the dough re toes as well okay. Applebee's kobe's reaction was a little less than the than the applebee's even richard hatch like. Wow camper laugh. This is this product asset representing all the cars. Yeah i guess that's a good question. Are there any other cars that that stick out in your minds up met. Because i think this is the most memorable probably not the most memorable and Matthew vaughn felt as a saturn ion yeah saturn is the sprint of car manufacturers for the for the cars. I think the cindy in guatemala. Release sticks out for me to your shafting fellow castaways from getting. Yeah the marines car toys with ford getting with the ford super duty truck. I believe yeah but to me. I think that as tech is super memorable are you. Are you moving up towards playing for. I don't know. I don't know if it's better than would put out put it head sprint. But not up into the top tier. What do you think my. I don't know. I feel like the pontiac. Aztec is more memorable but sprint said such more of an affected might. She's able to rattle off all those spans favorites Like arya stark off the top of his head. so let's run through my james clemens. James sleep every okay all right. I'm good with that. let's go back to. What's what's still in the bag. All right well forgetting forgetting a little thirsty here and you haven't had enough now in. Do how about some seven up gents. When did seven up get Give it do survivor. Castaways rob rob rob. How little you remember the seven up oasis from survivor one world but more memorably that season the a seven up originals commercials. Oh yes. I forgot about back and actually have one for you that i found online poverty. Shallow did a spot of a survivor. Originals commercials so if you just want to taste a little sip of what it was like to be a fan during two thousand twelve in survivor. One world this really was a the. The first we had in the race are the desert that was survivor. One world shrink of something. Let's see what went on on the seven up. Originals commercial here from survivor. Twenty four asked if anyone had hidden. And i started handing them out to jerry went to sandra. Everyone's mouths dropped. Gt was him packing. And i eventually made to be yourself. Refresh beats the heck out of the amazing race Connection what are they saying. No dot singular action. Yeah yeah. I don't think parties coming on. Like when william and kate marriage last year marriage. Yeah okay so. I guess those were iconic. I don't remember the seven up away sis. No that was a brief reward that they took. They had a nice chess. Which actually the picture for the for the thing here full of we're not talking about how to in full of seven up bottles on ice and that they had a nice little trip away where everyone was hanging out. They brought a big chest back. But yeah i think it's more pertinent for the seven up commercials and specifically robert. That's when i started listening to rap has a podcast and you had a day and a half with the seven song complete with its own theme song that you made up. I think that we did some fake ones. Also got billy curse a deal. That's one defined somewhere. Along the way i got him at the reality rally. I had like portable audio recorders. Billy garcia to do his own seven original. Okay all right. Is it better than marshal's that's good. That's the million dollar question. Remember about the seven up. Is just the placement in the episode. While like there. Because kim and sabrina like scheming throughout the throughout that reward. And you just see like kim isaka. Uc's big ask ball of seven up like in the foreground. His august background smaller As far as making yeah put it above marshals. Okay i think it might be below sears below sears up produced a winner but they produce commercials sears bruce winter either keep saying that they turned down a winner Yeah a winner. who was spiting them. All right you think super good c seven up one better than marshals. I think so and i think the commercials are honestly the only thing that's keeping it above marshals because remember well. Actually i don't know 'cause like which would you rather have the seven originals commercials or jeff probst soul tree description of the marshalls lounge. Good point. yeah. I think i'd rather have the commercials. I'm actually very surprised at the poverty. Commercial is not of erik reichenbach. Giving mpg necklace. Maybe there was cerita. Did that remained a camel. Let's leave it where it is all right. let's go back to the eib bullpen. What's coming out next going from the bullpen. To the we're talking sharman by god. That's the charen shacks music. Yes so sherman has popped up actually in a few places. Most prominently was the casa dei. Sharman in a survivor exile island. Where the kasai tribe one basically an indoor outhouse with a shower and toilet paper and bunch of so but back scrubber but there also was these sharman teahouse in survivor china. Where john robert was really creepy with everyone. Sitting into tubs and these sharman cafe in survivor token jeans. So i would say that i think sharman sponsorship levels peaked during its first instance. Mainly because of bobby bob dog masons You know involvement custody sherman. That was way back when when toilet paper needed to advertise before it sold itself here in two thousand and twenty. Yeah di china might be. Someone's like fallout shelter short. You could get in there actually. I think Bob dog and bruce surrounded by toilet paper and wine is a very twenty twenty moods be quite honest every dollar on toilet paper. Advertising was a complete waste in twenty twenty sold itself. Okay all right jason. How do you feel about Casa di sharman multiple iterations. I like the shark. All sharman spots We have in the survivor Lexicon i would put it What would i put a above marshalls sears about their. You feel above internet. Yeah mike it's always a weird of thing to pitch on survivor Have no toilet paper. I guess they make a big deal about it. I think it's a big creature comfort. I don't know maybe. I'm a bit high. This i'm i'm thinking it's worth playing for personally. you were putting the top tier. I mean listen to casa di sharman is iconic in my perspective. You have not only do you. Have bob dog need to take a break and wanting to break it in by dropping a deuce in front of everybody t minus two minutes after they got it. We also have them him. Bruce camped out on it at night. Drink dribbed slugging. Sure sure. I can't see putting it above sprint like right. After burn is the highest. I would put it. I think it should be behind the ashtec. It's absurd. I mean it's memorable but i don't know if it's iconic i think it's a microcosm of how cartoony survivor exile island is as a season. An outhouse serves as the source of such drama. and maybe that's sort of serving representation had has bullied might tastes a bit. I do think it belongs at least in. My life is fine. Cheer we're not saying. Get it out of the tier but i don't know i I think it belongs definitely a wrong the realms of sprint or the aztec tech. Just don't know where it falls. Among that i would put it above the astec at least personally. Okay jason. Do you have a strong argument to where it should be here. I would put it after the asset. I think the sprint and asset which is kind of representing all cars survivor. I had were memorable staples of the show at one point. Yeah the as tech. I mean it was the prize for the first show. We the memorable moment of colby with his mom sleeping in the aztec which was a cultural moment. People talked about colby sleeping in the car with his mom for months in the year. Two thousand and one. I think that the bruce and bob dog drinking in the the sharman shack was funny. I don't know if it was icon. Hannah blip on the radar. This time i think i listen. I do think it's also considering all the other craziness that ensued in in kasai. I guess this uplift on the radar. But i will concede but i do think that look. I think also would have only sponsors that produced three different edifices. We got a cafe. We got a teahouse and we got a cafe out of it so they weren't just throwing sharman at people to they are really trying to build entire facilities around this idea of chairman and i think that that's high praise. Yeah now sherman has just gone all in with the animated bears. Yeah the chinese clean song is definitely been one. That's been sung around our household many. That's the bathroom. The bear little bear comes walking out. Like commending his but wiping job by going behind is clean. Oh yeah it's sharman clean and he's gloating about it like you just won the lottery. Wow okay let me see. I told this is not one that i am familiar with But let's let's see okay. This is not a commercial for us. Gotta pick it up. I'll pick it up okay all right. Well i'm jealous of mama. Bear papa bear. Yeah i'll also you mentioned that there's basically what the baby bear is saying is don't worry this underwear biz. Bear underwear does not have my skidmarks. In because i wiped my ass with but the bear doesn't even wear clothes. Why why were the underwear have skipped. Who's under are these worries the dirt. Are we supposed to believe that these sharman bears are actually wearing clothes. That are the same color as them and they just sort of like fit over them. I mean underwear. He's holding are the same as like his white belly and listen maybe these are actual bears. Maybe he's our people in bear costumes and they have underwear on under their cost. Silica which would make sense why you'd be like i don't wanna touch that it's been rob sped. Stand there for eight hours wearing his bear costume. I don't touch that underwear. No my clean alright. So there you go all right rudy. Didn't need any Sharman toilet paper survivor borneo that he was ready to use the the bible. Yeah bibles plead. A the only reason i could see. Bring some sharman out. There would be used for toilet paper. Okay all right larry's all right we'll so you probably think like okay. Let's actually stay in the bathroom. Because once upon a time castaways forgiven the ability to build a bathroom using supplies from our next sponsor the home depot. Okay alright home. Depot is gonna make a few stops on survivor correct. Yes so it appeared in seasons eight and ten sponsors that rob. You have firsthand experience with their for the that. Feel like this might be a sears thumbs down as a result But yeah there is a shelter ruling challenging survivor. All stars and then in survivors survivor palau. James got mass steph as well as as all the other tools to build a bathroom to satisfy what production consultants on survivor. Okay all right. So the home depot challenge. Yes i remem- i remember it well back when myself. Boston rob big. Tom and alicia. Calloway were working on putting together a shelter and then i got in trouble because i was doing enough. I didn't have anything to do and getting in trouble for not doing enough stuff. Yeah yeah we're we're you laying down the rocks in the path. I seem to recall. That was like one thing you were. You were bequeathed with the where. Where i got in trouble was that i was supposed to be like just like gatherings of like robin tom. We're doing everything that there was. No like so i was just like a like a helper and i went and i went to get like a like a shipping pallet. I had seen elsewhere on the island. And then i like ended up taking too long to go and bring it back and i. Didn't you know clear that with my supervisor and it was looked at as i was on like a coffee. Break goofing off big mistake. I should've sat that. Challenge out all right so could have really taken a coffee break. All right that being said the home depot child conic is i kind of. It was a big part of those. Two seasons narrowly speaking. It is for my mark i think. One of the bright spots of survivor all stars namely the boga log cabin wing the rupert and poor rafa he did not like going down and then of course long just the pure hubris on james's part just all go down in flames or down the toilet that they just built in trying to craft an outhouse okay. yup think it's better than marshalls set up better than sears is. Better than reebok reebok. I think it's too it's too for two is produced to entertaining challenges from my perspective. I think that has to put it at least pretty far. Above applebee's yes. Oh wow okay jump up a little bit. That's not really. You've been a sponsor of anything. Put the service of the internet. I think applebee's produce like one like off the wall but really fun moment homedepot produced to off the wall really fun challenges so just by the numbers that has to be at least above apple by home depot sharman have lasting effects on their seasons. 'cause you still see the product while the season yeah mike. Do you think it could be better than your beloved causes. Sharma i mean listen. You know what i'm going to answer it's gonna come down to the two of you. I still feel like the casa sharman is a moment. I enjoy more and think about more than than sort of the the home depot all repeat at night thinking about the custody chevron while i repeat the names of the sprint fan favorites in my head so i i'm finding zero sharman that you sit in a nighttime exactly but i would love to hear what you guys think because i do think i think this goes below the ashtec no matter what it just depends if it's above yeah sharma. I think this feels right. Jason how do you feel. I'm good with this. Or below casa sharman but above applebee's. Okay all right. Let's keep going all right. What else you got my well. I'm assuming at this point the podcast. We're getting a bit peckish. He may want a snickers before you get to angry. Snickers has made one old and one new appearance on survivor. So the old is a king. Snicker was a reward during the kite. Flying challenge in survivor. Marquess that's right one. Candy bar yes. Jeff probe sliced into nine little slices and he accidentally seductively fed to zoe's dacas. Thought that she like very like she bed out his hand like a giraffe or something and then and then in survivor. Thirty pops back up. When they had like the big candy reward and mike holloway just went on and on about how much he loves. Snickers yes okay all right. Is it better or worse than a baby ruth. Listen you have certain patrons. That's a point of contention but evidently according to my calloway. You happy dance for that. Snickers no matter. What okay alright. So a snickers bar jason right. Where does this end up. Moving the needle for you not really know besides the mike Interaction with the snickers The you know Who was kathy. One of the marquesses running back for the rest of the tribe. Not really doing a lot for me. i think his brethren marshals around the up area to be for me yeah. I remember. Dan did not eat a lot of the candy. He was like bragging about bad about how he was only going to drink water. Yeah for something. that's all i remember. Was him holding the eminem between his thumb and forefinger and sucking it in some sort of. I don't know some sort of sideshow act that he's dead was trying to show off everybody. Talented guy. many many talents many interesting talents. I definitely put her about marshall's. But yeah i might honestly put it below seven up the commercials. The seven-up originals to me are more entertaining inherently than zoe's fifty shades of snickers. It was hilarious when kathy will want a snickers bar for reward challenge. Yeah that's again like goes back to the four. Doritos that nick wine in the end the survivor australia auction right like how stingy they were with the food back in. Those days was so weird because it was like you get this big excursion and a snickers bar snickers var alright makes me wonder if there was actually a sponsorship of they found one at craft services. Throw something in here. It was also a lame challenge in should the fly a kite. I really feel like a challenge out of survivor. Like this is something you would do. When you're seven years old and you're with. Mary poppins right like go. Fly a kite and then eat a snickers. Yeah it's basically a college. Survivor of a challenge is flying a kite and the winner will win a snickers bar. All right mike what else we have. We got a few left here. What if i were to tell you that. One of the sponsors of survivor that was shown as their survivor reward was survivor itself. Okay tell me about it. At the final five of survivor borneo kelly wigglesworth won a bottle of budweiser was not enough. She was given a trip to the survivor bar. Got to watch the first five minutes. The first act of the very first episode of survivor proper. Okay all right memorable moment but was this product placement. If i recall. I feel like that. The actual sponsor here was bud. Light and the this was. I feel like that even at that survivor. Forty like preseason hannele that dalton ross jeff probes told the story about how the survivors like ready Mutiny olmer the reward was going to be a bud light and they needed to come up with something on the fly to make it more interesting that they were mad as what we're playing for. Just a bud light bud light and a chance to watch fifteen minutes of the show right. So couldn't you say that the key thing that made this award salvageable was the advertisement of survivor itself. So i think that that was a reward. I don't know if it was a product placement to sell survivors. People already watching survivor product laser for those people in that bar. review survive. They're working on survivor right and they and they got advertise. The shown that they're going to be watching all right let's see we'll be eating snickers and watch a snickers commercial advertising can be circular. Okay this would be like you were on the set of a snickers commercial and they were trying to entice you to buy snickers on the seventy. And i wouldn't be surprised if that ended up happening so i did watch this so recently and it was like the scene is solves memorable because they blindfolded kelly and brought her into this bar like double blindfolded. Her that that in itself was memorable. I don't know why they needed to do that. Because he thinks i'm gonna production facility. So they sneak out of camp with a hotel. They were all stationed hold on her and like spun around the boat like five times and brought her back where they already were mark. It really is to rob's plan was a last-minute scramble they're like oh i guess one beer didn't suffice after sean. Got a yacht trip. And jeff pro personal credit card. Okay there's a survivor bar. That exists and quick. Cut the first fifteen minutes of the first episode that we can screen for peanuts. Someone else earlier awards. Jeffrey love to our horn himself. In on these rewards. Yeah he would go. Everybody like go in their truck going there like so look with you screen time. Yeah but it was a weird thing readjusts. How you doing in the game right now. It's like a weird sort of like parent teacher conference and like him. And as you alluded to jason in the pontiac aztec reward part of it was jeff got to share a meal with colby which must have been music jeff Sit down with coby in the middle of the game. Okay really cool to all so survivor itself. Better than marshals. It's interesting is. Is this going to fall below marshals. i think so. I think it's better than marshals marshals marshals stays as the with low oceans okay. I think it's better than marshall. It's better than snickers bar. I think the scene of going to the bar was better than the snickers more memorable. Okay let me shoot all the way up here to season. One is better or worse than reebok. I would say A reebok. I put it under reebok under reebok mike. Do you agree. Yeah my i might be coerced to put it above a better than the fake computer. Exactly we might as well pair the to not sponsors. Yeah i'm good with that okay or would do you think that they should be touching. Should they be. Why should it be a survivor in the fe. Computer idea sal. Let's let's their brothers right now. Okay all right they are. They are locked ultimate bromance of a computer. That's not a commercial for anything and an episode of survivor. It's not a commercial for an episode of survivor. Oftentimes the commercials are ones. That aren't rob. Okay chew on that excellent. All right mike. What else is out there. We're going jack and jill. It's finally happened. Sort of damocles kuhn or sort of damascus than hanging above us. Now we finally cut the cable here. We are talking about sandler's inimitable. Flick jack and jill. But you don't have to take my word for it. Let's let's hear from the oppo lou tribe giving their own sort of commercial slash included clips for the hit motion picture. Jack and jill as they won this reward during survivor south pacific. Okay all right. So let's go ahead and bring that upwards is going to be a clip from the episode. It's gonna be a clip from the apollo tribe watching jack and jill inclusive clips and of course some of their mostly uproarious reaction including a tearful close up from sprint fan favorites or sprint cast members. Sorry sears cast member rick nelson all right. So here we go. Let's let's share. Jack and jill renewed. Skip ahead to when we're getting our award all right here. We go candy are we. Only i've been waiting for repeat. Some twins have strange powers and they can feel when the other one's hurt. We'll harder jack. And jill loved it. I love adam sandler personally on the fan zhiyi good because it funny but at the same time there was a message. The message was a family. Come first that's a great message for us to be reminded they to these days to comment. We'll get tough. It will get to be a point of compromise but we have to be pun. Compromisable as unbreakable was and. We're ready to play the second half of this game. Wow what a lesson. Jason coaches speech there. Yes you are you willing to on rotten tomatoes the critic meter on let you in this time. Want to go he said medic for goal travels like thirty seven percent right. Yeah i think that. I am able to probably get gulliver's travels in a moment that will give me a good good point. I want to go probably for credit score like a twenty twenty okay my higher lower than twenty. I think it's single digits. I think this is often touted as one of the worst modern films ever made. So i would imagine that. They piled on the criticism here. Three percent critic school audience score thirty six percent. And i'm pretty sure that that three percent is all coach. Wait submitted his own zone review. Greatest movies celebrity. I think my favorite part is sandler's favorite of mine. Personally personally. I want this over in the adam sandler photography here where we already out on. Adam sandler this point. Or i think he's come back. I think that this might have been like pretty close to the absolute new dear of adam sandler filmography now. You've but i think the. I'm i'm wondering time where we like way out on adam sandler already or is this a start of his decline. There were little things right. There was like a crazy stupid or punch drunk love and there was like yeah and then there was. There was some optimism. things that he was working on. Click is another one. They're like. Oh adam sandler can do some stuff but this was you know. I'm looking at the other ones around this time Yeah you don't mess with the zohair on the funny people. Grownups came out. I believe the year before. Jack and jill just go with it which he played flagrantly said was an excuse for him and generates. Just go on a vacation. Yeah so gulliver's travels actually. I only had a twenty percent on the tomato meter. A twenty-seven percent audience score so audience. Actually enjoyed jack and jill. More came from the survivor. I mean listen. There's nothing like adam. Sandlers voice stolen like this for now. I just like i mean like i just almost seems like they edited in the actual movie. Jack and i just weird to imagine. It is so surreal and uncanny valley for me to imagine that a group of survivor contestants competing for a million dollars kick back and watch an adam sandler. Movie during one of the most important moments of the game is something that is just giving me so much cognitive dissonance even almost ten years after the fact that they all get together in. Uni like the like borneo contest. Just don't make us watch that movie so anything else. That movie spliced in like the oh they loved it. Yeah the jack. And jill only coach gives the confessional fee just like kind of laughing. Yeah that's the thing i mean. Sophie proves why she is a woman after all of our hearts just completely nearly stone facing the entire movie not reacting whatsoever to. Let's say for example. A jill languishing in bed with a cockatoo. Next to her for whatever reason or getting punched in the face by a child's has something duct tape his head. You never laid in bed with a cockatoo. Yeah rick and brandon just laughing maniacally like and. I do believe they would laugh. When i we had a movie like that. I i think those type of guys. I would do that. Okay all right. Not as mcgill of the sears award winner. The she's not going to bite on product placement toe put her three african screen. Some adam sandler clips for you. We'll see how you react to them. Okay all right better than marshals. I mean listen. Let me throw something out. He didn't shoot it up. I think this is top spot. Perhaps all right. Well let's let's then compare it and contrast it to gulliver okay mic. Make the case. Why should this be higher than gulliver. I think gulliver's travels has the one doesn't have reaction moments where we have been re saying. It's a good flick and we have like the image of dan limbo in the chair. But jack and jill has just the ridiculous idea of this tribe uproariously reacting to what is regarded as one of the worst films ever created. It's not just an gulliver travels is not a great movie but it is not one of the most talked about films as just like the bottom of the casa di sharman. I'm talking about so the fact that it was not only included but the tribe was favorably reacted to it and coach was deriving an aristoteles moral from i think puts it by far that the gold standard of just memora- -bility iconic sponsorship within cyber jensen. I would agree. I think is coaches speech versus dan's. You know swinging his legs. Yeah and i don't feel free. Speech wins out. Yeah i think code. I think jacksonville ones out and then purple kelly quit. Also after watching. Gulliver's travels that. Help it or hurt it. I don't think it affects the much. I think it's an after think all that happens. Pretty much after governor travels. But you got you have the talking about a while. They're in gulliver's travels but it happens after after the fact that let me also mention that much gulliver's travels the challenge was themed around jack and jill by they had to pair off and paint themselves to look like each other and jeff said jack chills a film about a pair of twins and this is really like on the island. Jack and jill don't always get along but in the end they realize they need each other to survive in this world much like you guys do now at two comparisons to the game of survivor in in that episode for for that one move yeah and just to be clear it is one of the worst movies ever made and it draws not one but two metaphors then is there anything to it being a second. The second movie gulliver's travels do anything. It was the first product placement of these to happen within the same calendar year on survivor nicaragua and then on survivor south pacific. I believe right. I think it might have been separated by one year. I think those replay all seasons ironically. Enough actually the to sears. Season's worth two movies seasons boston. Rob don't put a movie on my season. They actually is not through the film cancer actually into that volcano along with the idol. Clue you only movie. I would watch is what did what did they go see survivor. All stars lord of the flies lot of allies of maybe go with my girl. Amber virtually no mention of the fries out of africa or treasure island because these were not sponsored films. They were saying this is a this is an exclusive. You're about to really watch cinematic masterpiece being released onto the world. A little bit early survivor. Folks here's jack and jill Okay you mean out of africa like frankness off. Yes jason. you're good. With jack and jill and the top spot. I'm good there. Yeah all right mike. Do you have anything else. One more left are on this this this be challenging for the top spot here. I think it's going to do pretty well. Maybe i'm inclined to say it because my my last name is bloom and bloom as part of a popular product at outback steakhouse. We are finishing strong with the authority on steaks as jeff probst would call it alright. Outback steakhouse seasons has the outback steakhouse sponsored survivor. It has sponsored season twenty season twenty eight and probably most infamously. The emerged feast of season. Thirty five triple h. That was infamous. It was a lot of people. Were talking about it specifically. I mean it's not on the level of the applebee's but it's sort of on that spectrum of them freaking out we all remember the yippie. Kaiei jump that. Ben did when they found out that they were getting a rabbi. Joe mena basically is drooling all over the beach when he hears about the chocolate thunder from down under. There's a lot of stuff packed into that. Outback sandra famously. She loves the outback. Jason then it comes up in season. John when that is when we're talking about the pineapple rita vacant and that's when spencer finds a clue in his napkin even though he barely touched the napkin the entire time he was just so hungry Okay alright jason. Are you an outback. Guy I am an outback guy. Probably little more than albee's guy again not in interior restaurants. I think it's a. I had a bedtime i enjoy. I'm not a snob. Okay i may not like sears. But dammit i will not turn away and outback. Yeah stephen fishbach won't be just won't be joining me but i'm like tony. I go to fine dining. No he goes to bonefish All right the outback bloomed yeah former employer of mike blow exactly so this is something that's near my heart. I work for six months at an outback steakhouse so i know the products. Well i did leave before the pineapple. Rita's so i couldn't take advantage of that employee discount but you know the jeff described lascivious once more the bone in natural cut. Ridi- means baked potato normal nixon all the chocolate thunder from down under again. That bolton brownie that jessica describes a not so virginal way how she wanted that chocolate thunder from down under from that waiter and of course the gold coast rita and the pineapple rita. Well okay a lot a lot there okay. A lot there. It is also the source of not one but two idol clues. This is not only worth spencer found his but poverty don't hers her napkin and that was the key to that seven up original moment that she spoke about where she found her second idol and played it. here's jessica talking about the chocolate thunder down under the healthy waiter. He brings me a from under. And i'm like. I love your thunder from down under and that doesn't typically comes out of my mouth being virgin. I'm just trying to stay pretty moral and holding her. I don't know and i think chocolate thunder from down under. I'd say my high need clean because if there's this chocolate under under might not be the case. Oh boy yeah. Most virgins than punctuate every sentence with chuck thunder from down under. Okay all right. So where does it go. Where is it go on. It's a good question. Because i i personally think it's worth playing four but i'm not sure where it falls in that top three mike. You're hyping it up a lot. I don't know if i'm that high on there's a lot of infant but there's a lot of moments around it i mean. I think it had three very good appearances on the show. I is it a compiler. How do you mean in that. That does not have iconic moments but has it had been not enough seasons where it has racked up some Moments right to put it up there. But not as high as i think mike wants to put compared to like sherman which appear seasons. See the pack year. Let's put it by the goals. Okay that stuff over pringles for me over the pringles bentley and i would say i think it goes past applebee's personally hersher okay. It crosses the chip threshold. Okay okay so it's over. Applebee's i think it's over applebee's applebee's freak out is great but again there's a little bit of like a mini applebee's freak out what the season thirty five cast when they find out about outback. So you get that anyway. Is it over the home depot. I think so. Because i think i feel like we have like we have people talk so much about how much they love. Outback steakhouse and i feel like we don't get that with like home. Depot or sharman. Okay jason do. You agree with outback steakhouse over the home depot. Yes okay a alright. Outback versus outhouse. Says i've been make the same argument that i feel like the aztec with sprint and with these other two movies you have people talking about them as if their their their own show for the product. I don't think we get that for sharman. Sherman has fun moments but i think outback should be inch above it. Just because now has those sort of like you know like plants of of outback schillt's in there to talk about how much they love it. Jason what do you think over the sharp okay. can it get past the aztec. Yes i don't know. I i trae to to ask your opinion on that. I would leave it right where you got it okay. That's what i can't pass the aztec mike. I know you're a former employee. So you're bias. So do you think that the blooming onion can only go. I cannot go full bloom. God yeah this is tough. I i i would see it above the aztec. Not is my bias. I just did watch the season. Thirty five merged feasts which is so for the purposes of isaka and it is so don't question my life choices. Robert de busy guy stopped out watch. Rewatch heroes healers hustlers but it is so prominently outback. Heavy even more so than kobe's wow. That's a nice interior that i don't know. Maybe the the rabid ravenous with which these contestants were just tripping over themselves to get their hands on outback steakhouse across multiple seasons. Might might give it the push for. In my opinion. I think the aztec is more i- conic that it's it's such a ugly car. That i feel like if i saw as tech i think i think of two things i would think of breaking bad and i would think of survivor. If i drop. Pass the outback. The sandra finding idle clo- i think for me the like aztec and i love the touch soon so different time like at the time. We've their car was cool and we wanted to have that car now. We look at it as an abomination. I think that's part of what makes it pretty high up there It's a disastrous car. It really is it's the only car with dunk. Yeah so i feel like that. The car sort of stands on its own. All right. i'm fine with this being outback's resting place which is ironic. Given you're you're very soon to go to your resting place if you eat too much. Opec steakhouses the pontiac. Ads was almost once my resting place. Your place will end up in the casa. Di sharma change. Yeah all right. Let's take a look at where we stand by and see if we want to move in and out of tears as well i think for surprisingly forget. Forget you go home goodbye is empty are trashed. Here is completely claiming. Should anything go. Down to the bottom tier. I would put seven up down the marshalls in the bottom tier. Okay mike do you have any problem with delegating these three to the bottom. Not you know what. I would put them down there because i think they are not good rewards paired with like yes there are fun moments there but i think compared to everything else. They are just so they pale in comparison. I think sears gets by by that by the skits teeth by that casting contacts there as well now is when you say gets by. Is that a callback to your product. Placement drink exactly no. it's. I've already has been gotten so. I'm selling it at this point but i think that sears sears had some memorably in that capacity so i think it's at him. Bob is going to stay in eight. No hirsch okay so just to give our final rankings. Here okay so we have eighteen things We have a lot of survivor. Cast and brand steal this rob future. Let's not do that tonight. Okay alright so right now. Currently at number. Eighteen is marshall's number. Never never got out of the bottom here. But i think it was the third one that we said and it just nothing but down for marshals. Okay then a number seventeen is the snickers bar may be a lot of things by ain't no snickers bar. Okay say unfortunately. I think have given. I miss remember that day. Chocolate that koby refusing gets into like a snippy fight with probst. I thought it was a snicker bar. It was just a miscellaneous bar of chocolate. If it had been a snickers bar would have definitely been pushed up. Fortunately let's go. i'm it only has those two moments murders shoot the scene. Now jack okay. Alright number sixteen in seven up. Number fifteen sears. Stop me if anything should be higher. Lower fourteen reebok thirteen episode of survivor itself number. Twelve a computer number eleven. Jeff probst visa number ten survivor pringles once poisoned a co worker of mine. I'm far. I've got cans in my garage number nine a survey it's pringles rob have they'd survived a couple of moves with you iza Yeah it's actually sprinkles. Why would you throw them out. Yeah i haven't. They almost killed man number nine survivor. Doritos in mountain dew. Number eight the applebee's for charisma. They go so number eight on our list. The that's actually. That might be the place that christmas came to. Okay number seven. The home depot Number six the causa de sharman or sharman miscellaneous buildings number five a blooming onion number. Four the pontiac as tech. Now do you think there's a case to be made the switch the aztec and the sprint for me there might be an applebees caso apple and you change applebee's and sprint one. Change azteca azteca. You get like in real life you would get more use out of as thick out. I would want to know what happens to all the cars after survivor. By who keeps their cars doesn't keep their cars tax purposes. So i have a little bit of visibility into this from knowing many survivors over the years. So that they get they get the cars from the dealership go to the dealership. I think a lot of them traded in after a little bit of time or famously dreams going for the taxes right. I think yeah. I think i'm pretty sure he sold. He sold his truck after everything. My town yes. He got a different car. So i do remember a going for a ride. I feel like a mike. What car did the survivor. More cases players all get. That is a good question. That i'm looking at saturn's is that her view yeah. They got like suv. I once about them. I went for a ride in boston. Rob's saturn vue circa two thousand two. But they all get those cars. I don't know if i ever got to go. In gem rascasse a saturn ion. Did you cruise tricks in. Matt's send never got the hang out too much with matteo. Post a survivor the amazon. I don't know how impressed women would be if you were driving around saturday night. I'm probably better than in pontiac. Asked tech as tech would probably be a little bit more of a like okay. At least it's an suv. While i was gonna say. I think pontic asset. It's sort of like peacocking talkie like wow. That's an ugly car and you're like well. Yeah i bet in. Their is awful expectation like return pickup shakes near like. What do you think we're going to do in that car. And there's a little forward it is a little bit. Yeah yeah well actually. It's in the back then. Should it be ahead of sprint. Though sprint had more of the impact on the show. But i guess the question is is it more memorable than taking more family visit verses car. I think that spring is probably ahead. The ad tech. I feel like that. I still would say kept the catch myself and say sprint. Fan favorite talk about the. There wasn't award for the fan favorite player of the season. So i think it's been there. Mike bloom has them all memorized. I would feel bad to blow the aztec. We don't want to mess with a sleeper. Let me ask should sprint. Be moved into worth playing for because i was one of the first ones that we went through and i wonder if upon reflection much like we did with you know the bottom three. If it's just so noteworthy enough that it. It shouldn't be anywhere above number three but it might deserve a spot in the top tier. It feels weird to say. Only the movies are the only the only survivor. Sponsors worth playing for are the to really crappy films that they had to watch on survivor. would be also wanna put the card in there because the cars were part of the shelley The tradition of survivor it was on multiple seasons. It was a big deal when it happened. I i i'll take that argument. I think that's a great that great call. Yeah okay all right then all right so the pontiac gas is four sprint fan. Favourite is three. The gulliver's travels movie reward is two and number one with a bullet. It's jack and jill. Very sophie clarke. Themed podcast this time. We hear her passing story. And we get to have her. Relive all the trauma of watching jack and jill as its number one spot here there. You go all right. What a great list. Thank you to the listeners. Who helped suggest all the different things to put together here in our outwit outplay out list. Great job mike by trading everything here today. This was really fun. So you know a depending on the frequency and subject matter with which we come back is going to be dependent on you also. Please let us know your thoughts. Were trying things out of this. Offseason is not looking to come onto the horizon anytime soon. So we're trying to look out. Waste like have fun with the show and look back on different ways robin. I certainly have a bunch of ideas including patron ideas. Let us know your thoughts. I mean if you want to come back more and more frequently. But i'm excited to what. However many times we do this come back and endless some more stuff out from survivor history. Okay all right jason. How are you feeling. I'm feeling great. If i could often wards right now what would it be. The asset obviously just wants to lie down and go to sleep in that room back. Yes right yeah. I had a ton of fun fun. You buy skippy. Wow that's a lot of peanut butter a that's like a edge of extinction size That cost you about. Twelve twelve tokens. Wow guy store them off from tony yes boy. You're in some sort of like cosco pantry with giant peanut butter and giant. That's right we're big. Costco family really like actually living. Like gulliver's travels everything so giant around you yes. What is your shirt. Say jason vendor shirt. Evanger you go unfortunately no. Mcu films screeched her. Fortunately cvs going to get the rights to screen us and marvel movies as rewards for survivors. Not yet not yet. Who knows maybe come. Survivor forty whacks. Actually i think the survivor cinema might be the safest place to go. See movies Yeah yeah all right jason. Where can people keep up with you. I am on twitter at jr one zero. Eight five is j. a. r. one zero eight five one zero eight five. Got it okay. All right and then mike. What else Are you working on. Yeah so if. I'm talking more island bay shenanigans with josh later on down the hatch. Are we watch podcasts. As well as going galactic with jessica lease on our star trek discovery coverage. But outside of that. Rob you and i are still keeping it in the cbs. This fall podcasting not once but twice a week about the amazing real. A pitch to the survivor fans also may not be watching the amazing race. What else are you doing with your lives. Come have fun. Watch the amazing race with us. Yeah really it's been a really fun season so far. It's a really great cast. I highly encourage people at checkout. If you've never seen it before we do a lot of explaining on the podcast we even have an entire amazing race one. Oh one segment talk about previous. Were certain things have happened. So don't watch look at whether you're a beginning or an advanced person this there's a there's a spot right here for. Cbs reality on wednesday at eight o'clock. That's currently filled by a very great show. Just because it only took place on an island for one leg doesn't mean that you shouldn't be deterred from checking it out. i'll keep it one hundred with you. Amazing race isn't my favorite. Show that i get the podcast about but you know what it's the only show that's on right now. So that's what i'm doing. We're watching the amazing race. And i get to talk with my friends. Mike and jess okay. Let's we have a lot of miscellaneous like this type of fun with it as well in fact last time in our tar pits which is our second podcast of the week we did a deep dive into cbs holiday. Merchandise which is just how off the beaten path. We are going so if you're even if you're you know not so committed to the amazing race here talk nonsense each and every week and who does it need that right now in two thousand twenty all right check that out of course if you are interested in even more survivor shenanigans. The star wars brand steel is up in our podcast feed and then you can also check out. Our first live patron brands steel. Which is up on our patriotic page at rob has website dot com slash patriot. You could watch it for free. The youtube video is available at robert website at dot com slash patron. We will have more lists more talking with t. Bird more survivor. Fun war mazing race and much. More all at rob has a website dot com. Check it out. Everybody take care bye.

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