20 Episode results for "Lake Como"

Caring What You're Sharing

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

41:39 min | 1 year ago

Caring What You're Sharing

"Talbott was finally able to take his new bride on their long awaited honeymoon to the beautiful shores of Lake Como one of the prettiest vacation spots in Italy it's tuber fifth eighteen thirty three and inventor William Henry Fox Talbot is annoyed after months of delays human history our best moments in life aren't just preserved their broadcast for all to see what is all this sharing making us positive technique that later became photography just because he wanted some honeymoon picks to share with the folks back home as happy as we think our minds are constantly telling us what to do to be happy but what if our minds are wrong what if our minds are lying to us of Lake Como the desire to share what we're experiencing now we can do it anytime we want these stories show how a melancholy to behold it was in this moment of vacation disappointment the Fox Talbot had some inspiration how charming it would be he later wrote if these in twenty four hours instagram had twenty five thousand users today the site boast thousand new uploaded photos every single second we can brag about excuse me share that experience with our friends and family members everyone who wasn't there nowadays most of us have devices in our pocket so far technology can come in less than two hundred years but the also illustrates something more profound the power of a very basic urge to record a moment natural images could imprint themselves durably upon the paper within just two years Fox Talbot would invent an early to do this he developed the negative no smartphone cameras if Fox Talbot wanted to share this beautiful scene with his friends back home he had to draw it Fox Talbot tried sketching with partner Mike Krieger it's asleep new tool that lets users take interesting photos to share with friends what seis term called an instant telegram of sorts so they christened it instagram size Jerem wants the APP just after midnight within hours instagram servers crashed too many downloads. You're listening to the happiness lab with Dr Lori said this I moved magical moments that were not only captured instantly shared humankind now had the perfect way to satisfy Fox Talbot's original urge on the shore it's powerful enough to record pretty much every single experience in vivid detail we also have tools that Fox Talbot probably couldn't even imagine ones that letter share those captured images broadly not just with our family and friends but with millions of strangers at the click of a button for the first time in lakeside with the help of a camera Lucinda the nineteenth century equivalent of the best smartphone camera but his result wasn't all that great it was so bad in fact the he called it when asked why instruments so successful side-stream said that the APP give users away to turn ordinary everyday scenes it's a magical moments because he didn't want to just see this lovely seen himself he wanted all his friends to see how pretty the lake was to the problem of course was that this was eighteen thirty three now let's fast forward to a different October fifth exactly one hundred and seventy seven years to the day that Fox Talbot drew that Awful Picture Disney but long before she earned that nickname she was just another college student and younger than most alone in New York City so I would sit most days in the park and leading us away from what will really make us happy the good news is that understanding the science of the mind point us all back in the right direction on this October fifth two thousand ten another inventor software engineer Kevin size trump is just about to launch the new photo sharing APP he's developed New York City when I was sixteen and I was dropped in Union Square in a dorm and I had no one Mariela Spun is a young entrepreneur that many have called the millennial waltz in square and I play chess and I kinda just watch people miraculous wanted to connect with people in a huge unknown city so she turned to something she loved ice cream shop astle and my understanding of the city was by way of ice cream shops mapping the city in terms of the most delicious ice cream helped maryalice learn about her new urban home but it also brought her something more important real human connection everyone's happy and ice cream shops people aren't oppressed and ice cream was able to just for me like made her realize how powerful shared experiences can be doing something with other people it just makes us feel good people share experiences up's guidemap class I would serve finding places in the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens Andy's ice cream shops felt to me as places that we're safe they held other people all the time and their daily life this is Cornell University researcher Eric Boothby when you watch a movie with somebody or TV show or you are at a concert or even just in your house and you have the radio on or you're listening to music or looking at visual stimuli such as paintings Uber's gays and share moments with them if you have a young child or have ever hung out with one you probably know this phenomenon well mommy look mummy photographs or things like that Erica is an expert on the psychology behind all these tiny shared moments people are naturally drawn to share experiences in this way I think you know even if you look at infants under a year old are already trying to basically co-opt there undress my social anxieties and put me in a place where I feel like I can converse in the best social south Mary Lists Foray into New York ice cream shops events like having a strange looking puppet pop out of a wall unexpectedly the kids notice the puppet naturally but the parents pretended not to see it and so wii come on look what's amazing is the babies don't need to be taught to do this research shows that are human motivation to share is an instinct on that kicks in automatically during the first year of life in once that he psychologist Mike Tomasulo and his colleagues parents and young toddlers into the lab and staged weird the share the experience to see it at the same time together to test this Thomas Hello varied how parents reacted some parents looked both at the kids did what they normally do they pointed at the weird thing but what were they trying to achieve did they just want their parents to see the puppet or did they want their child what happened Thomas L. found that babies whose parents didn't share stopped pointing over time getting the parents to look wasn't the objective it was about the act of sharing I think that we go through life doing this and it's something we may not be thinking about all the time but it's something that is a child and what they pointed at but other parents only looked at the objects they did with the kids were asking they looked but they didn't really share the experience with it's something that really sets us apart as species Erica became interested in why is shared experience is so powerful what are we getting out of it she hypothesized area with a chocolate tasting so we had people come in they sat on a table side by side with another person who actually happened to be a confederate who was working for us we told people that they were going to be experiencing several different kinds of experiences we rigged it so that we could assign people the only thing Erica varied was whether subjects tasted chocolate at the same time as another person or not it shouldn't have mattered but in the end it did to share an experience or not sure experience they were either both tasting chocolate at the same time or the participant was tasting chocolate well we had the confederate instead do something else so the confederate for example looked at some paintings while the participant chocolate and then we had them evaluate these trucks if they raided the chocolates differently if they experience them differently if they thought that one tasted better than the other for example that had to be because of whether the experience was shared or not this person and just knowing that their mind is also full of the same contents as your mind changes that experience for you both Erica devised a cool way to test this new is schering an event with someone else might change the way we ourselves experienced that event even if we don't realize it you're just simply attending the same thing at the same time as playing an underlying role in how we situate ourselves with others and how we go about our daily life the fact that we are so sensitive to that blitz we had them report how much they like the chocolate how flavorful it tasted people thought they were trying different kinds of chocolates but they were actually identical this way we could tell experiences aren't necessarily always enhanced improved when you're experiencing them together with somebody else they're actually amplified they get more intense research so what we found is that when people tasted a pleasant chocolate simultaneously with somebody else they lay that chocolate more and thought it tasted more flavorful all aware of that then arrogant another experiment she was the same setup as before but this time people tasted Yucky unsweetened baking chocolates what happened Chryssa found similar effects with other kinds of sensations scientists at McGill University had subjects stick their hand in super cold water which hurts a ton but the coal in one sense that's true these negative experiences get more intense when they're shared but that might actually not be all alone or getting to sample some super expensive but really rare food does the uniqueness of an experience make it feel worse Erica told me about it typically ordinary experience they got to watch a movie one of the subjects however got picked to have an extraordinary experience he got to watch a really your own experience of the chocolate it actually is tasting different to you when the other person happens also tasting it versus not and you're just aren't special viral video involving magician doing incredible tricks gus had subjects predict which type of event they'd enjoy more the extraordinary one or the boring one people thought extraordinary movie would make them happier but what happened when subjects actually experienced the different events the boring events were fine but the that bad because it could actually help to serve a function of bonding people together feeling more pain when someone else's hurting isn't the best experience at the time and sharing the experience made it worse a bad chocolate tastes more awful when someone else is tasting to what this tells us is that what is it doing to our interpersonal relationships but what about experiences we can't ever share some amazing event like having the chance to travel to see would it might allow us to empathize with that other person to bond in the face of a shared trauma that's going to the other interesting side of of shared experiences our lives it makes the good things better and even though it makes the bad things a little worse they're more bearable sin someone is by our side experiencing stuff together can be a powerful tool for shaping our happiness this same inside lead Mariela spun the woman we met earlier too and so that detracts from the social bonding potential that there is there and that might be one of the reasons that so many of us have that Fox Talbot urge when we expect a study by another cornell researcher Gus Cooney who also happens to be her partner he set up a study where a bunch of people came to the lab to have eight or more conscious of how her own behavior affects other people it's even change your family life like how she and gusts share experiences together as a couple for watching TV at night and I'm distracted looking at something else right maybe I'm on my phone I'm responding to a text or whatever I realize now that that is actually going one another at all kinds of ways just even being aware of it makes life a little more interesting I love Eric is work because it shows the power of sharing how it intensifies hurts even worse if a second subject was standing there going through the same event at the same time so misery doesn't really love company is that what to sort of suggested and something incredible we want other people to experience it to we want to share all the awesome moments that were not able to share the time that's why there's so many and then when they eight that same chocolate while the other person was doing something different instead and what you're not realizing is that what the other person sitting next to you happens to be doing is affecting ordinary events experienced alone made people feel kind of isolated but even felt a little guilty that could have been an awesome experience and they read it really highly but the don't often have but you should let a time crunch get in the way of finding the right candidates for your business that's why Lincoln is the best place to post your job Lincoln walk around the city and the spaces around me just weren't offering or afforded me a place that I really wanted to job screens candidates with the hard and soft skills you're looking for things like collaboration creativity adaptability you can hire the right person fast nation posts with Hashtag G Hashtag incredible hashtag yacht and so on Erica's these findings have changed her affect my partners experience of the shore watching and cause him to pay less attention to it I'm just more aware of this constant interpersonal dynamic where we're factory Lincoln looks beyond the work skills and connects you candidates who match your business perfectly it's no wonder great candidates are hired every and it has this other social cost of will they haven't shared this with other people other people can't relate the can't really talk about it they feel like they're bragging right they have difficulty expressing that other people and uh-huh million dollar new concept there's this line down the street as well what are they waiting for and Lo and behold as an ice cream shop and that was kind of the moment where it was like I need just visit lincoln dot com slash caps again that's linked in dot com slash happiness to get fifty dollars Earth's post turns and condition for start building places in the world that people actually want to be in and spend time with and places where people can come together how do I build something that people just want to go to for people to gather together one that gave her a rather unconventional job title I am the founder and CEO of the Museum of Ice Cream just in case you're not lucky bring people together ice cream ice cream is made to be shared and this was the realization that led Mariela to develop a completely new kind of venue l. even after finding rich social connections sharing a cone in those New York ice cream shops maryalice was searching for something more where do people where am I appears Food Fuchsia hole in the wall one that led to a pink plastic slide winding two stories down device cream is so I decided to go check it out in person with my friend from College Sandy stringfellow we headed to a pop up location in San Francisco together Geena to already be familiar with the Museum of Ice Cream I ask Mariela to explain what it was it wasn't easy great question at Museum of Ice Cream we have one goal are they spending their time and what is actually filling them up maryalice realized that the modern world doesn't give her generation many opportunities to share events together my peers commission and that is to bring people outside together under one single piece which is ice cream visitor enters museum of ice cream you're going to go through a series of journeys and nothing compared to the rest of the Museum Sandy Nice but an entire hour taking in a completely surreal sensory experience there was a fifties diner that served French fries the happiness lab we'll be right back hiring the right person takes time timely ideas like these are why Mary is constantly compared to Walt Disney she's stories all celebrating the axe ice cream and so there's a lot of both world building and story building that is built into the experience and building and Mike Hubbard all surfaces with incredibly bright in color and I'm really into the sprinkles up there the neon lights whereabouts entering the back on linked to find the right person that Your Business Swinnerton John's you can pay what you want and the first fifty dollars is on we have just entered the Museum of ice cream first thing it's not actually a museum it's kind of like a pesto visible has exploded in the think shimmering blue waters statue filled gardens everyone from Lord Byron to George Clooney has vacation there and that's why Fox Talbot was annoyed to eat a bunch of my favorite food which is ice cream it sounds really interesting but the spite maryalice his best efforts I was still confused about what exactly the museum groups were going to church there might be are group's weren't going to other community focused space as I was like how do I build something that people just want to go to what could possibly Xining incredible fantasy filled spaces for the next generation but unlike Disneyland the Museum of Ice Cream didn't start out with hundreds of staff members and a huge team for months then Mariela started making similar museums in other cities her creation has now been visited by millions of people around the world it's the new world not the world you're used to not grew up in something different okay that became pretty clear when we had to enter the first exhibit by jumping into a cents each room was more over the top than the last we're now in a room filled with animal cracker carousel is and catch up made of ice cream an entire room filled with pink refrigerator magnets were you could write your mantra a stable filled with life size glittery Unicorn so become a darling of celebrities an instagram influencers I saw beyonce as feed and she posted like nine post and that was like I mean it's Queen B it's beyond doc designers in the beginning it was really a two person labor of love for Mariela and her co founder Menashe Vora I built the pool with my two hands I painted every wall L. I worked the door and I were serving ice cream and it was twenty two hours a day seven days a week their first New York City Museum sold out instantly I'd say that was a that was a big deal but the product fuel call it that has sold itself we've had had an almost two million people and they've all swim these pools of sprinkles which sounds else that people can ride wall sandy has appealed to be allowed. Yeah and then there's the piece to resist aunts a four foot deep swimming pool filled with Rainbow Sprinkles mm-hmm Donte else when you reach the bottom skips goose butts knew it okay all right I was the host which meant I had to go first thatt's screaming scoop scoop while sliding down a huge pink slide was but it's also a place where people get to be social to connect with others the very thing Mary Ellis was missing when she first moved to the city and it sounds ridiculous but it brings a joy and it takes people out of a place of you know we're all so serious numbers to a place where you just have to you have to have fun hugh by Pushkin Industries and me Dr Lori Sanders Surreal ice cream filled experience together one of the best parts of her job is eavesdropping on these tiny encounters people have sharing her incredible mm-hmm of ice cream experience the social part but there was a second dark side to all this photo taken at the Museum of Ice Cream it made the place hard to navigate the most was posing with our thumbs up in a tiny room filled with glittery mirrors photos of buried up to the neck and sprinkles but all those photos meant I was paying more attention to the around them at the time people get that Old Fox Talbot urge they also want to hold onto that experience to share it with other people after the fact agreements spots rothen blocked by a big group of people standing around trying to get the perfect photo taking picks over and over again to get one that looked chest right Liam had their phone now including me and Sandy CNN. I left with so many ridiculous photos picks of US writing strange fictional animal means phones lots of phones it's a double edged sword and that was what hit me most while I was at the museum every single person in the live within within our devices you need to build up saying that visually stimulates you know I need to go see this because it looks so fantastic the problem though Allina to celebrate their college graduation it's the social aspect of the museum experience that has made Maryalice most proud the way people from all walks of life get to share the more window and my phone than the actual lived experience the one I was supposed to be sharing with sandy who I hadn't seen in months the one Mary Ellis and I saw this firsthand during our visit we chatted for awhile with a local ten-year-old birthday girl and her mom as well as a group of dressed to the nine twentysomethings who had traveled all the way from northgate we able to break down and the answer is because no one's getting the opportunity to get off our phones or like to look up Oh yes our phones even is that when you build something that fantastic something incredibly cool looking and crazy is the museum of ice cream people don't just wanNA share it with the people who happen to be when she was a sixteen year old visiting ice cream shops maryalice noticed that phones made it harder for people to actually connect with one another it was one of the reasons she tried to make Seventh Street and in any other circumstance I couldn't imagine these you know this mom and his son and this older gentleman coming together and having conversation we were able let me to be sharing with the other patrons to the tragic irony is that the very human urge to capture and share was causing people to miss the best aspect of the museum team of ice cream so over the top for me or our mission is how do we build the world that is so compelling that it outshine the world that we're able to smartphone nights and national park where I couldn't even get near a gorgeous waterfall because too many people were taking selfies it even happens at weddings congratulations our obsession with capturing moments means not just missing them ourselves but causing other people to miss them to Mary Eh CNN. I ended up bypassing entire displays because there were too many people posing nearby it was pretty frustrating and I realized that the frustration you did edited photographs that appear on your feet you're able to understand her translate the feeling the emotion was a familiar one because I didn't just have this experience at the Museum of Ice Cream I felt the same thing at concerts I've been to recently why couldn't see the band behind a c this there was an older fellow and there was a mom and a son and they're talking about how they all love chocolate chip ice cream and then continued to talk and they both can do talk they both live on the experience far surpasses the things that you can capture an a you know a small square she's taught her staff members all kinds of techniques for getting people to put the it really starts to happen outside of our doors I couldn't tell you how many people leave and go grab a drink together or just as a response to them talking about that they both Love Vanilla ice cream has a complicated relationship with the fact that her creation is one of the most instagram's places in the world it's difficult because so much of what you see are these perfectly cured Talbott story the one I started this episode with I thought about it from his perspective how he was one of the first in human history to satisfy that urge to document and share but as I did more research about the science of sharing for this episode I started to think about the Fox Talbot Tale from a different perspective that of Mrs Fox Talbot Imagine arriving at the Most Beautiful Lake in the world a young newlywed hoping for a bit of romance with overworked husband imagine how annoyed being it must have been to watch him spent hours on his damn camera Lucinda trying to get the perfect sketch Mrs Fox Talbot was perhaps the first of thous- to like start to break down these barriers and I think they they continued on and they took the backup town together owners is beautiful moment and it's like why don't we have more of these moments why phones down what are they learned in the museum they don't always work frustrating Seattle people are looking at their homes time we try to engage them the guests come through the Games obviously you want you to face I am going to happen when I first heard about box upon thousands of spouses to watch their partner stare at their own honeymoon through a camera lens she was probably one of the first to feel that special frustration eat it those things can be disruptive and they can decrease enjoyment of our experience the happiness lab we'll be back in a second when we're about to take a bite of our food or were saying something really deep and the person takes out their phone to capture a photo of the food before we you experience when someone you care about is missing the opportunity to actually share a moment with you because they're so worried about being able to capture it prescription eyewear starting at ninety five dollars every pair is custom fit with the entire reflective anti scratch polycarbonate prescription lenses we'll need someone to talk to someone who can support us through rough patches or even the everyday ups and downs of life that's all talk space comes in order five pairs of glasses and try them on for five days there's no obligation to buy everything ships free and you get a prepaid return shipping label there's an urge we all have an urge to to capture special moments I'm talking with Alex Perish a professor at Nyu. 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taking affects our experience of an event does taking photos make us feel better does it help our memory for the event despite the ubiquity of photo-taking in our daily lives for the fraction of the price of traditional therapy go to talk space dot com make sure to use the code happiness to get sixty five dollars off your first month Asu with one of their five thousand plus therapists that very same day and if you want to switch therapists you can do so at any time at no extra cost surprisingly little scientific work had actually addressed any of this so Alex decided to study these questions starting with memory she recruited a group of subjects if it your face and your style I was able to take their quiz in seconds and you can too and if you still can't decide check out their free home try on program take part in a real world photo were the experience we had them go through the trust can exhibit inside the Penn Museum in Philadelphia so they're going through they're looking at the artifacts listening to their audio guide just like they would if they were visiting a museum on their own what she varied was whether that's talks base dot com with the code happiness clean like the camera took me out of experience that I was focusing too much on getting the perfect photo started looking into the empirical work on how the effects are wellbeing I decided to meet with her to get to the bottom of all this sharing is it helping us or hurting us but we also have that intuition prescription eyewear shouldn't cost you more than a plane ticket artifacts that they they saw inside the cases but that is not without a cost and when they are attending more to those visual aspect details the big question was which group did better the folks taking the photos or the ones who didn't the answer is it depends the photo taste talk space online thirty makes taking care of your mental health more affordable and more convenient simply provide your preferences for therapy and talks based on that when we do that we're taking something away from the other individual in the interaction Alex interested in the topic while she was pursuing a PhD abroad noticing things that I might not otherwise have noticed because I was capturing these aspects with a camera but the other side of the equation was that I was sometimes or not her subjects were able to take photos half of the subjects could have their phones with them and we're told to take photos as normally would but the others were told to leave their phone more enjoyment imagine going on a bus tour if you're just sort of taking in the sights that's definitely enjoyable but if you're capturing owns the main desk at the end of the exhibit she gave subjects in both groups surprised memory test which artifacts had they seen could they remember all the king condition actually does better on the visual memory tests they remember more of the visual aspects of the experience and the museum the which means we have to be careful not to miss all the non visual good stuff what our partner said at dinner with a hot fudge Sundae tasted like with the Concert Guitar Solo sound the experience does taking photos make us happier this time the results were less nuanced people in the photo condition they showed significantly act noticing the details attending to what the experience feels like that can draw into an experience which feels good but only for the visual details so the museum they weren't able to focus as much on what the audio guide was telling them you see that photo-taking has a positive effect on one aspen you don't have the cognitive bandwith to pay attention to all that other stuff which means you don't remember it makes sense but what about our enjoyment take photos for many different reasons and one of those is so take photos for yourself so that you can remember and kind of re I think that's not visual what you heard on the audio tour or that joke your friends said what the amazing meal taste like then 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Why praying is so important: Kristen Pardue: 181

Mom Inspired Show with Amber Sandberg

49:34 min | 6 months ago

Why praying is so important: Kristen Pardue: 181

"You're listening to the MOM. Inspired show episode one hundred and eighty-one with Christine Pardew. Welcome to the Mama's buried show. I'm your host Aamer Sandberg and this shows created inspire encourage and add a little extra tier day. Hey everyone I am super excited to have Kristen Party back on the show today. I wanted to do something a little bit different today. This is going to be so casual and I wanted kristen to come on to talk about prayer and why it is so important over. You know the time frame that I've known her. She is shared some passing stories that She had prayed about and then God revealed answers. And it's just been so amazing to hear what she has had to say that I wanted her to come on the show so that Youtube could hear her talk about it. I feel it's very encouraging when you hear her talk about it. It almost makes you just want to be like you know what? Let's pray right now. Or why wasn't I playing? You know before or praying like this and It's really inspiring just to hear what she has to say. And how she hears the Lord speak to her and just kind of how she has had to learn to really trust the Lord and how she seen miracles in her family by answered prayers. And so if you've been struggling And you just Kinda have you know fallen away from praying to the Lord. Maybe you feel like you know. Your problems aren't big enough or you know it's never going to get answered the prayer or just feel like you know the enemies just against you. I really want you to walk away from this feeling encouraged and I hope that it gives you some hope. I'm just listening to her story. Because even though kristen has such a wonderful life you will see like listening to her that she goes through trials as well and that everyone does and you know. Life isn't easy all the time and that everyone deals with their own issues. So I hope you guys walk away feeling really encouraged change your life. Let's go to the show. He you guys. Welcome back to my favorite things. And since we are airing this during cove in nineteen I decided to change it up a little bit on what I was going to talk about but I I wanted to say that if you did not hear the episode. I DID WITH KRISTEN BEFORE. It's episode one sixty six. We go through a LOT OF PRODUCTS FROM DOLE. Tara products that I use during my weight loss journey. I lost fifty pounds in ten months. We kind of just go through things and we and she. She goes through other products that I didn't take But if you wanted to hear more about that make sure to go to one sixty six after this episode to just Kinda here in detail. Why some products are good and what they do and why beneficial so today. I'm just going to mention a few products from details. That we it's either we both like them or it's one of her favorites or my favorites and the first one. I wanted to talk about is one of Christians favorites and it's an essential oil called elevation. And it's perfect if you just need your mood lifted and who doesn't need their mood lifted right now. Can I hear name and so I wanted to read something? That Kristen had posted. Because if you're not familiar with oils maybe thinking I don't know why this is so important. I don't know what they really do. How can this really help you? So she wrote inhaling essential oils stimulates olfactory system as the molecules reached the brain they affect Olympics system which is linked to emotions heart rate. Blood pressure breathing memory stress and hormone balance. So how awesome is that That wheels can actually do that. Good quality oils. So I just wanted to say that we can make such a difference so it's not just like this. Hokey saying that they're like. Oh here's these oils you know. They do nothing so I wanted to read that to you. But how I would recommend using. Elevation is using it accuser. And you better believe that. I'm using it if he's almost every day in our household I've been diffusing balance a lot. I've been using it in the kitchen because that is now home schooling headquarters so we really need a lot of balance in our life right now. Oh Man anyways I go off on that one. I need to get back on track. Okay so if you don't have a diffuser but I will link the diffusers Onto the show notes. If you don't have a diffuser and you don't want to buy diffuser you can simply rub it in your hands and in hell the oil and that will help you as well so I just wanted to suggest that as well. If you didn't want to get a diffuser I totally get it. The next item I wanted to talk about. Is these oils. Kristen LEGS TO SAY. They're not magic but they're mighty and it's called. Flim and it stands for We'll let me spell it. It's F. as in Frank L. a. m. and I will break it down so f is for fragrance sense L. is for lemon. Oh IS ON GUARD. Oh is for Oregano. And M is for Malaca and these are all known to boost your immune system and again what better? Time to boost our immune systems right. And so if you don't know how to use these you can put them in a roller and you can also use them and you can take them in a capsule. If this is all super overwhelming to you feel free to email me amber at mom inspired show dot com. I will totally break it down for you and help you out because I know this can be a lot of information if you are new to this or just not familiar with how it all works so please. Email me if you're confused and you want to try these things. The last thing is what I like to use as part of my skincare routine and I know this is Kristen's wanted persons favorites as well She is the one who got me. Hooked on this in the first place and it's called Yaro palm and what it is. It's a blend of euro essential oil and cold press pomegranate seed oil. And what it's designed for is to be the GO-TO for a true inside out natural approach to aging by Taliban over all wellness and the best way to get that glow. So here's the thing with your palm you can take it orally and you can put on your skin. That's why they say it's a true inside out. Glow I personally like to just save it for my face I take a dropper and put it into my moisturizer and then rub it together and then put all my face in the down my neck and chest and I just feel like my face is so glowing after I put it on and I get so many compliments. There's a lot of times that I don't wear makeup many times Ashley on and I just get compliments and I just feel like how you take care of your skin as well as how you eat and how much water you drink Really reflects that and so I just love using it on my face but you can take it orally in a capsule and you can put on your face you can do either one or you can take both There is a travel kit that it comes in in a smaller bottle. And it comes with a body serum your upon body serum which is great to put on your stomach or your legs or your arms whatever you want to. Kinda tighten up and it also comes with these capsules. They're called cellular beauty complex. So if you wanted to savor oil just for your face and then take the capsules. That's kind of what I do. there's so much good stuff in the cellular beauty complex which I'm not even highlighting right now and there's immune-boosting boosting Properties in those capsules as well. It's not just for beauty so I just wanted to mention that but if you wanted to try it out it's less expensive to try it this way. And they're smaller bottles and a container for the capsules. Then that way it gives you an idea if you like it and if you WANNA buy the full size product so I'm GonNa link up the full size zero palm and then as well as the travel kit but I did want to end on if you guys are looking to help. 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Kristen thank you so much for coming back on the show today. Thanks amber for having me. I'm so excited I am to But before we get into it I WANNA ask you a vacation question as always and I like asking you because I know you've gotten to travel a lot with doe Tara so it's always kind of fun to hear your response. So what would you say your favorite vacation spot has been and Y and this can be without luther without kids. Yeah so I would say my favorite has been to the British Virgin Islands. We got to go there. I want a trip there a few years ago and I'm just a beach. Girl like tropical vacates sunshine many happy and we had our own. They ran out the entire Peter Island for us. We had this whole island to ourselves and it was just gorgeous in. It was just the most fun time ever so I know I think part of I think Peer Island at least partially if not fully destroyed unfortunately by the hurricanes that came in not too long ago. So I'm not really sure what that's like now. When I went there it was amazing. And then I know he said one for like for like tourism and just seeing the world. We went to Italy about a year and a half ago. We wanted trip to Italy and it was Lake Como Italy in the Lake Como and then my husband and I extend it went to. We went to Florence and Tuscany so that would be my second favorite because Italy's just beautiful. Yeah that's how my list my agency owner is going to Lake Como in the fall and I can't wait to see all the pictures and stuff like that There's just so many places right like I always say this on every episode Mike. There's just so many places that I wanna see so little time. So let's jump into the show We've had you on the show before but you know if people have you know miss those episodes and stuff like that and they don't know that much about you. Why don't you share a little bit about yourself What your name is where you're from. How many kids you have. And then what is going to jump into a little bit of where you are today and like what you're up to? Yeah so for those of you. That don't know me. My Name's Kristen Pardew. I live in Franklin Tennessee with my husband and I have three little boys. I have a seven year old four year old in one year old and I also run my own dough. Tara business God's really just blessed my business I'm also a holistic Dietitian so I help people feel better with food being food as medicine and help people have more energy and so yeah my life is just Jesus most importantly in must husband in my family. My business and I'm just so grateful for all of it. Yeah and so if you guys missed the episode. I'm trying I'm blanking on what the episode was but it was when I did this series. My weight loss series. I had kristen on and we talked about all the products the products that I use to. Kinda help me you know during my journey and stuff like that not just weight loss products but also just to you know overall health and I'm trying to see if I can find it really quick. Yes so if you guys want to check out that episode is episode one sixty six and so and that was just in December so Christine wishes on not that long ago but I wanted to bring her on for a whole different reason. She did mentioned that. God really blessed her with Tara and her business and you we work out at burn together and so I see her a and it's just been really great to talk to her between workouts and all that kind of stuff and one thing that has Stood out for me with Chris is that she has such a great prayer lar- per life and so I wanted to make this episode Super Casual I wanted to bring kristen on the show because I wanted you guys to hear how she talks about her prayer. I've had several. You know just really good talks with Ukraine and just about like you know your past either with your family and then also your health and where you are today and then also you know your business and you know how successful you are and You saw you wouldn't really know how successful you are like. I mean you're you're super hall. You're super kind and I love that about you and And so I wanted to come on and kind of share it because like I told you before I feel like if people don't really grow up in an environment where they're taught to pray and to Kinda just really lean on the Lord and have a strong pro-life I think you can be intimidating and it can feel overwhelming and it also. I think there's this balance of trying to figure out. Like how do you ask the Lord for the things that you want without without treating it like? It's he's Santa Claus right and is your Christmas wishlist but you know he obviously put desire into our hearts to want certain things so So I really think it's really cool when I just listened to you talk so this is going to be super casual. And so what I mean by. That is not going to be a structured as it normally is and so. I just want you to kind of start talking about. You can talk about whatever you want to talk about in regards to your life like I said Your past if it be your family or your health or Your Business. You can start with whichever topic you want. I. I'll whichever one comes to you and just kind of walk us through. I don't know like maybe maybe start with whatever is like at the top of your mind and that like if somebody could hear this that it would really encourage them and their life and help inspire them to start praying a little bit more so Which one do you think you want to start with will? Yeah I'll just start by even just talking about why it's important to Gary and you know I think everyone's on their own different journey so there's going to be such a vast array of people listening to this young on different parts of their own faith filled journey. But you know when I think about prayer is just. It's it's relationship with Jesus. You know it's just all it is just as he's like our best friend our savior but he's our best friend and so. I'll just like for someone that's maybe new to this. I like how I talk about with my children. My seven year old my four year old you know whenever they have questions about prayer at night and I put them to bed. I just say hey boys make sure you talk to God tonight makes you think him for for who he is and what he's done for you and so like whenever. I talk like if my son's ever said well I don't know what to say. I just feel like talk to him talking. Mommy here's your best friend. Just talked to Mike. You talked to anybody. It doesn't have to be. I think that's important. Thing is some people they hear these elaborate prayers at eight hundred. Maybe they've heard a pastor or somebody like just say this like yeah this elaborate thing and even the Bible talks about. It doesn't have to be tons of words or a lot of elaborate things like it's really just having conversation just like you would with anybody and instead. I'm having that with Jesus. And and that's what state is it's we don't see him but we still believe. That's what faith is believing what we don't we don't see and so sure. I can't succeed Jesus in my room with me or sitting in the car with me but I know he's there 'cause his word says that he's always with and so I just I you know. I'm like sap. Jesus there was me. And I started talking to and I. I just know that sap may sound weird for some people. But that's what that's what relationship with. Jesus Christ is it's a personal relationship. It's not you know. God sent his son. Jesus because we don't have to go through a priest or a pastor to get to God. Those people are great. They're great for us but we don't have to use them to get to God we. That's why God sent his son Jesus to die for us. In Britain will be raised. Raised again so that because through Jesus we relationship with Jesus Christ that's how we get to God and eternal life in heaven and so anyway. I just talked to Mike. Thank you you know when I pray. I think the first thing that I always start out with his Thanksgiving like thank you so much Lord for everything you've done for me for who you are for Crea- just this like sometimes. I'm just amazed at the the vast of the earth that God created this earth and everything in it and the sunrise and the census just life in general and I thank him for my children and I thank him for their health and I thank him for everything. I think so often in life because everybody goes through hard things in life. Everybody has problems in trials in this life. No matter what social media shows BS. Everybody has trials and I think so often. It's like it's so easy to get hyper focused on the problem. Hyper focused on the struggle hyper focused on the horn. That's going on our lives but we can't what Gosden reminding me especially. His last year was such a hard year for our family. We went through so many trials. That will God reminding me through every trial and like I would And ask God for strategy on how to overcome the enemy had overcome Satan during those trials and the Lord gave me a dream one night and in the dream this was the strategy that he gave me for to help overcome an issue. That was going my four year old son. He's been he had been battling this horrible issue for almost two years. In so in the dream I was testifying we do. Is WE HAVE A smaller church? Midst getting bigger. It's getting bigger fast but it's it was smaller. And he had me in the dream I was testifying to my church about what the Lord had. had already done in Mason's life and so it's easy when you're going through a hard thing because my first thought was building will what has God done for Mason you know. Because because we hadn't seen the breakthrough yet we hadn't seen the miracle yet we haven't seen the healing and yet an but it's like but then he reminded me okay. We'll Mason Mason can hear. Mason can talk. Mason can eat Mexican walk missing. Can play. Sports Mason can go to school. You know what I mean. So it's like we sometimes forget. We take for granted the things that God's done for us like with God we couldn't walk or talk or do anything but we we take those things for granted. Those are things to be thankful for. You know in anyway. I obey the dream. The strategy was to testify. Got Hard done for Mason. I obey deny testified in church. About what the Lord had already done for. Mason is he had he had helped me is somewhat. The're mason struggle listening. Zion fear the Lord had helped Mason drastically with that. Wow well anyway we. My husband and I had prayed and fasted for that boy. Love Him so much. The past two almost two years since he's been excruciating painful as a mom to watch my son struggle in being so much pain long story short. It was two weeks ago at Church. And through our pastor. Gog a word through our pastor pastor said I hear God saying that hit. The father's love is GonNa. He'll someone stomach issues today. The father the father's love is Gonna. He'll gut problems today in somebody will. I didn't hear that word because my son was distracting me at the moment during church but I went back and watched the recording. Because I text my passion after and I was like masons healed. I was like over joys in crying because Mason was healed and I couldn't believe it. She was like. Oh my gosh. The Lord God gave a word saying that he was healing. Someone's gut issues today. I was like no way so I went back and watch the recording and sure enough. My son came in from children's Church into the main main room. Fifteen seconds later the word was given that God was about to heal someone's gut issues through the father's love. Wow that was about two weeks ago. My son is healed is a miracle it almost every day I started crying with thankfulness because if anyone has been in our home and seeing how hard it's been the trial it's been it's like you is a complete miracle. His body is healed and is a miracle from heaven and so it's a lot of times people. You know what the enemy would try to tell me. Throughout the past two years is like it's never going to happen or you're praying for nothing or you know you start doubting or is God really on your side or you know the lies from the enemy will come in your thoughts but I just know God will heal this baby. Boy I trust I trust that he will and I just kept praying and believing in phase that God would heal him and he's healed now and I'm still. I'm still just shocked that God healed him like completely healed him and so through that journey like it sure. It was two years for some people. It may be two months three years. I don't I don't know all I'm saying is don't ever stop believing in faith for the new miracle for you because he is still the God of miracles. Some people will think that miracles are just for the Bible days. Oh miracles are just for back. Then Jesus did Miracles. That the disciples did miracles. That's just for back then. That's not for now will I? I couldn't even count. How many miracles? He's done in our church just for my church people. It's a small church but in my own family just in the past few months. There's been at least three big miracles in my in my just in my little family and so anyway people people need to believe in private. Jesus still performs miracles today. The Bible says that he is a saying yesterday today forever so he didn't change with time or culture he's the same. I was GONNA ask you so with Mason on that day so I obviously don't know the extent of the symptoms and the issues he was having but so later on after church did it was it that like his stomach or something like that would hurt every day and then all of a sudden it was a matter of like he was in. No pain is like how did you know like Whoa like? He's completely healed because it was at that obvious. Oh Yeah I mean I'll just be specific. He had some trauma that happened to him a few years ago regarding going to the bathroom and ever since then he associates going to the bathroom number. Two with pain excruciating pain. To every time he'd go to the bathroom it felt like he was He'd cry cry and then it was not. It was not constipation. We a million tons of doctors and all this. It was to the extent where excruciating pain cry every time we that couldn't be potty trained with that with number two because he added that because of the trauma that happened. He associates pain with it. So He'd have to put a diaper on so there's lots of shame because he should have been going in the body right He'd never gone number two in the body or anything and so he'd always bring a diaper to me let that day. He just got up and went to the bathroom on his own locked. The door went to the bathroom and was fine. He he always had it was always. It was always diarrhea. I'm just being team. You're right. You're saying he had gut issues and I'm like yeah. He was already gluten free. You know we we already do all the things health wise for gut issues so it was. There was nothing else we could have done. Shares to help my child with has got problem on stomach problems and I didn't realize how severe his stomach problems were until he is healed because now it's like no pain no issues like perfect perfect like and the whatever I think. There's some severe health issues going on with him but God bill them all in in an instant. It wasn't like this graduating. It was instantly healed. Wow that is so amazing. I mean that is really cool and and that's what I want people here because I'm sure there's some out there really struggling right now with her child right and and that's kind of what I wanted to ask so that people kinda could have an understanding for you. Obviously it isn't always like that sometimes. It is gradual and stuff like that and but that it was so obvious to you. You know that you're like wow like he's healed so that is really awesome. And Yeah and I didn't even know about that one recently and so One one thing that stood out to me is I remember talking last year about your past. And Your Your Daddy. You weren't really super close with your dad and stuff like that. Do you WanNa talk about that at all or do we want to talk about something. This is super casual. I'm just trying to I want. I want people because I'm trying to hit certain subjects. That people probably struggle with and I know that family dynamics is such a huge You know issue with people and I don't know so whatever you WANNA share with your your family life in your prayers and kind of came out on the end and I don't know what the Lord shared with you during that time. Is there anything specific about my biological father story that you want me to share? Because I'm happy to share it. Yeah there there's something specific that I feel like I believe it was last winter that you were telling me something about about him. And you're praying about it. Is it my thyroid. Oh maybe let's go with that one. Let's just let's just do it and then but that's not the specific one. I'll I'll I'll ask you about. Yeah I think that does sound familiar. So let's talk about that one. Yeah so my biological father did not want me when my mom was pregnant with me. He wanted her to have an abortion with me and she just in her distant but didn't want to. I mean what? What mom does you know? And so anyway there in the middle of marriage problems long story short. She did not get an abortion. Obviously they got divorced and he did not want to be my father in so so he just decided not to be my father so anyway so he rejected me in basically abandoned me as his daughter from day. One A lot of people don't realize what happens when you're in the womb of your mother that that affects you the rest of your life like it's not like oh because you're a baby you don't remember it still affects your spirit in your soul and your emotions. It affects you like that. Baby's not just numb to the emotions of the mom or what's going on in the atmosphere back then. Yeah and so late. So basically the Lord's revealed to me that there is a spirit of abandonment in a spirit of rejection on me since the day I was abandoned by volatile father. Because that's not the way God ordained it's like you know a mother and a father God created them to be ran until love their children. And so when you break that at when you break that God's designed for a family than you know the enemy can have a heyday in 'cause children in subconsciously to fill unloved to fill rejected it to fill abandon and so I basically my whole life without realizing operated out of rejection like like like there was. I can't even see it in my childhood. I didn't for some reason. Even if I wasn't left out at my mind could always come up with a scenario of how I was left left out in. Its because there was a spirit of rejection on me. The stemmed from my father so I would always Somehow feel left out or rejected in any situation and that in there. But there's hope for that in that lately as an adult thirty four years old. Now God's Jesus has just healed my heart around so many things and so last August I think it was my or July August my biological father out of nowhere. I found out I got a phone call from my brother as like he's in the hospital he's GonNa die today and I'm like I started sobbing because we will one. We've never had a relationship because he didn't WanNA relationship with me but to all those emotions just surface you know like oh my gosh. Like he's about to die and the thing is a week before a week or two weeks before he died that day. God had told me to write a letter to him telling him I forgive him. Not being a good father to me well. I never got to write that letter because I was out out of the country when I I heard that from God and so I had just hadn't gotten around doing it just yet and so I was like oh no I don't have that closure with him. He'll let him know. I forgive him and that it's okay. God still loves him no matter his mistakes so I called my brother and I was like. Can you talk to the family? Because he was remarried with the family and they still Long Story Short. My biological father still Still kept my brother. Didn't ever want me so my brother was still part of that family anyway. It's confusing. I know I called my brother and I said can I talk to Him. I can I can. I can find out if I can talk to him because I just want to have closure with him before he dies and let them know that I just wanted to share God's love with them and it's okay you know well he called me back and said. I'm sorry Kristen. They won't let you talk to them because they don't believe that you're really his daughter and they don't want to have anything to do with him and long story short and that rejection just hit me harder than ads ever hit me and I was sobbing. And I'm like I even get that closure with my my own biological father an especially like that. Yeah I don't even know where he's going to go when he dies. I'll and it was just. I wanted to talk to him and tell him it's can you know this? Have THAT CLOSURE IN THAT. No hard feelings in it's okay and your loved and but anyway so a lot of anger try to come up in my heart towards that family. That wouldn't let me talk to them. And how that closure and I saw the enemy's plan in that moment that the plan was to get bitter towards them and to get angry and resentful and bitter but but God's has always reminded me that bit bitter bitterness and resentment. Only poisons me hurts me and so like. I'm lily like crying on the sidewalk as as on dealing with all my motions that day and I'm I'm just basically shouting out but it praying shouting. I forget I forgive them for. They don't know what they've done. I forgive them for. I don't know what they've done for. They don't know what they've done. Because the Bible tells us that this battles not against flesh and blood the battles against them the battles against you know Satan in his rulers and principalities is what the Bible says in so I I. I'm not letting the enemy win. I'M NOT GONNA go into bitterness and resentment here so I forgave them in that moment in I came home I started. I was in my bed crying. That the afternoon out he. He died and I was crying. Because I didn't get that closure anything. I turned over looked at my nightstand. And I take A. It's a prescription. But it's it's thyroid prescription but it's more natural one. It's called armor. That doesn't have anything I took it. Yeah yeah there's nothing synthetic in it but it's still a prescription that I had to take and I've always done everything physically nutritionally that you can do to heal your thyroid and it's still not healed yet. Well I heard not audibly but the thought was so strong in my head that I knew it was God And I just know when he's speaking to me and I turned over my head as I'm sobbing from all of that. I heard so clearly that's from rejection. And so the Lord I have a vet talks about the spiritual roots a disease like basically the book talks about how eighty percent diseases eases have spiritual root component to them. So sure we need to do the things physically nutritionally. But if you don't deal with the spiritual Ruben. You're like for example my thyroid. I've done everything I can heal. My Siro is not healed yet and the Lord told me that at its rejection. That's caused me to have a hypothyroid a low thyroid hormone in. So I'm believing in faith as the Lord's healing my heart from rejections for my father in. Just how deep that goes. That wound goes as his healing. Muhart that I'm GONNA be healed Eventually soon my thyroid is going to be healed. And so I'm just praying in faith over that Every day I'm like thank you Lord that I'm accepted and loved by you that you chose me and adopted me as your daughter. The daughter of the king of kings and Lord Lord. I thank you for healing my thyroid in for healing any leftover residual rejection in my heart. I thank you for healing that God and I trust and believe that as he heals. Mahar that the thyroid will be healed. as well so But that's kind of the story. What happened with biological father discounted the side things? That have come from it but you know a lot of people have maybe even if their parents were the air for them physically like on you know in their home right. There's people mess up in sometimes. Parents didn't nurture them will very well or they didn't tell them they love them or they didn't just snuggle them Show affection towards them. And so you know the only person that can loves us the way that we really need to be loved is Jesus in so it's really just accepting his low Accepting the father's Love God's love and as for me I had asked God through prayer for revelation of his left. So obviously my life showed that my mind believed that. I was loved but my life. I didn't live out like if we really knew. Like had revelation of God's left for us than we wouldn't ever worry or fear or anything like that because the Bible says that perfect love casts out all fear and so I ask God in prayer every day. God I ask that you give me greater revelation of your love from. Show me just how much you love me. Well I pray that in faith all the time and he's just like blown blown out of the water like the way he shows me how much he loves me given me. Revelation of his love for me is really just healing all those broken pieces of a heart from from my childhood in a way that only he could do like nobody else like. My husband can't feel those those those places like we will lot of times. We expect our spouse or our children to to meet those needs that are in the heal those wounds for us that we the Father God as the one actually has to heal those wounds In we have to let him we can expect somebody else. A physical person. Who's not perfect to to meet those needs for us. Sure they should love us in Cherish. Asimov saying that but but they're still imperfect people are going to mess up. Yeah no and I love that. I love that you gave us an example of how you asked for that. And that's great. I was going to ask you again. What was the name of the book that you're saying? What the diseases that are connected to motions or something. It's called a more excellent way by Dr Henry. Right Excellent Way and he actually has an online in person retreats that my husband and I couldn't do that this year so we did. Their online retreat obviously impersonal. Be Better. But it's on their website. It's be in hill big. At In HEALTH DOT COM. It's called four. My life retreat. My husband and I bought the online version. And we did it together. I think it's really important that if you're married that you did with your spouse because it gets it gets to the root of a lot of things in we did that. We we completed. I thought about this today. We completed it and I think it was like the next day that my son was healed by. Mason was sealed that all in the show notes because I think people want a reference that and I think that's really great because I do think that makes such a difference Especially with you because I think you are so good at like Narrowing down on what you're consuming so feel like you're really in tuned on what things you kind of should stay away from and so the fact that you were still having issues right and and you really are good at like honing in especially even with like you said with your son and you eat really clean for the most part and all that stuff and so. I want to point that out because it is easy to think like well did you. Did she do this do that? And you are really good about that so it is interesting to think that sometimes if you've cleaned all of that out in you're still having issues that we have to kind of really go to you know the mind. And and what emotions are we holding onto or what what's going on subconsciously in our minds and stuff like that so That's why I want to make sure that in the show notes so that's great Okay so the last thing I wanted to talk about is your business and so You have a lot going on and you just launch your your personal website again and you have fun things just happening and so one thing that stood out to me when we were talking maybe ago and you were just kind of saying You're talking about Asking the Lord Bless Your Business but you're also asking him to like talk. I if you were trying to figure out though what direction though you were supposed to be going and so can you share a little bit about that. Like that scenario that we're talking about. Does that even sound familiar to you? What I'm what I'm referencing. Yeah I think so I definitely I mean I can talk about how about my business for sure. 'cause I'm sure there's people that are just struggling and they are like okay. Is this a pretty direction? How do I know Blah Blah Lake? And then you're Kinda like going down. Maybe a dead end road right but you don't know so then was that not God so I'm just curious like how you go about things right trying to figure out Was that really not the direction I was supposed to go in You know because it was that more my own doing that. I was trying to make happen or whatever so like to tell us how you have tried to navigate all especially because you are successful in the sense and you know and I think you're just trying to do more and more projects and so I'm curious how you navigate all of that to try to figure out. Where does the Lord Really Want You? And then how do you go about asking him to bless what you're doing? Yeah the word that just keeps coming up right now for me is especially I mean in any area of my life but now I know where my business is is is trust like do. I trust him with my business. Do I trust him with my future and I mean I have not not saying? I'm perfect than any of this. I'm literally just learning just like everybody else's learning but really what he's been speaking to me about is Christie. Trust me because you know with business or our finances. It's easy to start worrying or you know trying to figure it out like because M- my whole way I've always operated as I got to figure this out right now. I need to figure out the answer. Figure out what went wrong. Figure it out and I've just been learning like the Lord's like no Carson. You don't always have to figure things out like a lot of times. What he wants me to do is just surrendered that to him Than actually leave it in his hands a entrust him with it but But obviously we still have to take action. We still have to do things in so I'm not saying this perfectly. But you know it's it's really Instead of being afraid that I'm GonNa make the wrong decision or make a mistake in this area. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA follow peace with whatever prayed about like okay. God is. Are you going to do this? You know and if at peace about it then I'll I'll go with it even though I haven't heard clearly that this is what I should do. My business if peace about it. I'll go with it and I trust that if it wasn't him that's not what I'm supposed to do. Then he'll correct me or hill. Close the door or whatever he needs to do to shut it down but the point is that he showed me through. All of it is like Chris and I just want your heart in your trust in all of this in in when we start worrying ab or fearing of our businesses our finances or anything like that. It's Kinda not it's Kinda dangerous place to be to start worrying about it because what we fear we actually attract so what we fear draws near so if they worry about financial meltdown are we worry about our businesses falling apart or whatever. We'll be careful because then you could actually make that happen because you're fearing it because you know what you fear you attract that in so and so. I've tried to pray in Saith over my business or my finances or the people that God is putting my path The people on my team and things like that and so instead of I. It's easy for me especially in the to get gosh about making the wrong decision. I just want to. I want to do this right now. I'M GONNA follow the decision with peas in if if it if it gets shut down then I trust okay that no. That's all right like he's he's doing it like I don't have to do it all I just have to put it. Put IT in his hands and he'll do it. You know a few years ago. I was praying about all right got I. I want to help my team. You bless me with like what do I do like. Will you give me strategy on how to help my team I am at a? I'm at a point where I'm not to help anymore. And what soon? After he gave me a dream one night in the dream I was on I was hosting a team beach retreat in port pouring into these women at that beach etry in that was three years ago or that was four years ago. But we've done we've had to beach retreats behind us now and they've been so fruitful and they've been so so good for my team and they've been so fun as well and so you know he does give strategies for businesses as well and my husband and I both dream at night and we the Gives US both dream He's been giving us during this week about our businesses and it doesn't mean that we always understand what he's saying but sometimes it is clear and when it's not clear right. Hey Lord I trust that you'll show me what that meant what that dream it. What you're trying to speak to us. And so the key is just trusting him which is not saying. It's easy but I am learning how to trust us with every air my life but in businesses specific in particularly You know just I just got asked to speak at not big leadership Leadership Conference next month in. I'm coming up at the presentation right now and I'm like Oh my gosh this what I should tell. They gave me a topic to talk about out. I'm just asking him to help me write it and when I speak on stage that he'll speak through me and just all that all those things and it's really just. I trust that I had peace about saying yes to it. You know whether you speaker tonight like I had peace about it so I went with it and so I just think following Pray about every decision especially big ones. And then if you don't know what to do just follow peace really can't go wrong just following piece right you talk a lot about dreaming right. So do you feel like that started a happening recently? Or do you feel like he's always spoke with spoke to you through dreams like because here's the thing I bet you there's people thinking okay so I don't really know when he's talking to me like is that me is that my subconscious. I don't know and I feel like it's very clear for you because you've really have honed in on kind of like when you were saying with the thyroid medicine you're sobbing and then but you knew it was very clear that it was from the Lord even though it was an audible because I think you are now familiar with with that right so people who are not used to this right and maybe maybe they're not dreaming yet. I don't know but like when you first started realizing the Lord was speaking to you like how did it. How did it look to you like how did you start to really be like okay? This is the Lord speaking to me like. This isn't just me I don't know like subconsciously talking to myself like I am having the confidence here like this is the Lord speaking to me. So I'm just curious about that because I'm sure people are like I don't know I don't I don't know what he's talking to me or not. Yeah well I think it's important to get in a quiet place in with God like we're actually. My husband and I got to clean out are really clean out our closets. We have pretty big closets but clean out and that's going to be like my prayer closet where I'm just GonNa go and sit because I have three little ones. I have to get away and get away and sit because getting in that secret place with God where he can really have that personal relationship and I I like to journal my prayers and then just like talking to him. Thank him for all he's done and then you can ask them questions. You know whatever you feel like the Holy Spirit's leading you to ask and I just stop and I listen and thoughts come into my head. I'm not saying every thoughts from God her that not saying that all but if that saw aligns with scripture aligns with the Bible wines with the word that's probably from God and if it's the thought that comes in and it does not align the Bible then is probably not from God sure but as when it comes to an end at the very beginning I felt like I was doubting. I'm like oh I don't know if I hear from God or I would say things like I don't hear from God and my pastor's would correct me and they're like kristen but you do and you've got to stop saying that you don't be does. Your words are powerful so it's really not good to even say things like. I don't hear him God or I don't I don't think I do instead is like thank you God that you're teaching me. How this you're teaching you how to hear you. Thank you that I hear so clearly from you and then it's just like learning. It's just been a learning opportunity ever since and especially during the day whenever your minds like going non nonstop and but you know the thought that comes in if it if it you know and also learning like okay. What kind of thoughts be from God? Which kind of thoughts could be from the Devil? In which kind of thoughts could be my own flesh? She thoughts you know. An God's not going to say things like Oh you messed up by mad at you you know. That's the obviously the enemy so it's also reading the Bible and staying in scripture every day in knowing who God is and what he says to be able to discern. Okay is this thought from God? Is that from the enemy in social. Or because if we don't know the word and how we're GonNa know what God's saying to us because we have to know what kind of person he is by reading scripture by staying in the word so for me. That's absolute must and then in regards to draining. I started going to this our church start as a house church. We are actually had at our house every Friday night in August Sundays Three and a half years ago my husband I started going to this church in. It's gotten we have a building now. It's gotten a little bit bigger But people in my church were talking about these dreams that God given them in. Sometimes they are warning dream. Sometimes they Dreams that we're going to happen in the future like Prophetic Greens. Just didn't have the dreams. I'm like I WANNA dream. That's amazing. Our dream will all had to do was ask start bringing God. Will you give me dreams at night that are from you because everybody has dreams not everybody but many people have drains and not all dreams? I have from the Lord like some are some be some can be from the Lord some could be sent by the enemy to cause fear and in some could. Just be my own weird dreams you know and so it is take it takes practice really just to be able to discern who is that dream from but there's some videos. I've watched some books. I've read on the subject to really help me but I I just started asking God to give me dreams instead of my husband and I I started having tons of dreams. And he really didn't because he wasn't asking for them and then he was likely you're adding all these dreams that he started asking. Now he dreams all the time now. And so yeah so. Some of the dreams are warnings. Sometimes the gods re revealing the state of my heart letting me. He's convicting me in my dreams. Sometimes he's showing me things that are going to happen in the future. Sometimes it's this is what's going on. This is the enemy's plan for your child. Need to pray against it. So sometimes it's a dream something bad happening to one of my children for example and it's not to cause fear it's like oh we'll prayer is powerful so I'm GonNa pray against the enemy's plan for my child and you can turn it around their prayer interesting. I love that. Yeah so we just need to start praying to get through dreams like that prayer prayer really as powerful like yeah like how can you even get to know? God more if you don't talk to him this ask him. Say It's really just as easy like I think people just like. Oh God big mighty and he's scary. Maybe I don't know but it's like okay. What a little child come to their parents and ask for something that they wanted more talk to them about their needs or their love or how much they love them. Well that's how we're supposed to be with our father in our heavenly father is like like a little child like the Bible says that to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. We have to enter as a child because children. They don't worry about their needs being met they. Don't worry about it. Not GonNa get fed or dress today or they. Just don't worry there so carefree and that's how God wants us to be with him under so carefree that he's GonNa take care of us and he loves it so much. That is GonNa work everything out out for good for those that love him in so. I think it's just kind of a mindset shift of how we view in in just reminding like hey if our if our children would come to us with for this or our children just trusted us like we need to trust our heavenly father. How even more that? He loves us in our children right. Yeah that's such a good point like how if you just look at it and I know that we're supposed to be childlike. But at that is that is very hard to remember to be like that but Using our kids as an example that they just come to us right and And they bring their needs and their wants to us and stuff like that and that's how we should be With God and and in our prayers but I think we kind of really hold back and stuff like that so and this is the whole point of why. Why did you come on the show because I really wanted to give you know women the permission to really start praying because I think people kinda just they hesitate or they're just like I don't know or there's other people are bigger problems you know? There's so many reasons why people may be like I appreciate you coming on the show and sharing. All of this with everyone I just I think it will inspire people encourage people to start praying more prime bigger Then what they're doing and I I always enjoy having you on the show. I'll thank you so much fun to be on here and thanks so much for having me. Hey you guys have you subscribe to the mom inspired show. Mls Yet if you WANNA have discounts sent to your email links to the books we discuss on the show as well as all the guests information. Then you will want to subscribe that way. Every episode will show up in your inbox every Tuesday and you won't have to go searching for the newest episode. 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Controversy

Fame is a Bitch

27:30 min | 1 year ago

Controversy

"From workhouse connect in a._j. Benza vein <hes> he likes to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex keeps james is the guy put the cock and the peacock network okay bitch. Hey everybody it's jay benza. This is fame is a bitch for august twelve twenty nineteen. What a weekend. I think we all know what went on. I don't think we thought of anything but this jeffrey epstein dying but you know let's pretend that their stories showbiz or the world today that we think are bigger than jeffrey epstein's death. Let's act like we care ear about other shit okay. How about we discussed at length. Why miley cyrus and liam hemsworth broke up a marriage before they arrived at a year yeah. Let's let's talk about. Do we really care about that. Listen no matter what she says the minute she said months ago we're defining what it means to be a queer person. We don't use the word wife. The miniature said that i knew that guy wasn't alone for her faulk dach- husband's life to save. This is my beautiful missile wife. Not this is the new age queer eye married. We don't like saying okay and they really don't like it. When you tell the whole fucking world about your private shit it and maybe he didn't like seeing her make out with brody jenner's ex girlfriend caitlin carter on that boat in lake como the bolt that conveniently must've had photographers sir t._m._z. on board because that was not a paparazzi shot. That was his shot for about six feet away. It was all offer straighted because miley cyrus miley cyrus versus like that and she wanted to get it across that cheese on her own. She's doing things her fucking way. It's so ridiculous. She's she's just the pain the ass i really thought she and liam we're going to never break up after she got that tattoo vegemite on her body because you wanted to celebrate the man the australian man she married. Nothing says love like a fucking tattoo. That's sort of america's jesus on your by. What a bunch bunch of crap. Hey you know what we could talk about the scraps of rose mcgowan career how about that. It was reported over the weekend. She's making her directing directing. She's directing. A small movie called pomerania. Yeah it's about a little dog who hides in the closet and once she comes out of the closet she becomes the queen of a land coal pomerania and she's at war with another land called mutt land area. That's where all the mud sar and rose rose. Mcgowan says the film is all about race and breed and classism and it's she sells very funny and i say let us be the judge about what's funny. Funny okay rose because nothing rose mcgowan is ever done or said is comical well. No that's not true saying that harvey weinstein raped her in the hot tab that that made me laugh. So what else maybe she can do funny. I don't know we'll see she's also developing psychological horror project call sleepwalk. It's apparently a very haunting story about a young girl who who sleep walks a lot and she blurs what is reality and what is false also and she said it's all about. It's about how we all do. That in our own lives that you know these fucking people. I mean these fucking. It sounds semi my autobiographical if you ask me because the last three years rose has blurred the line between what is true and what was made up okay and listen these movies you know these these moves he's making to the wreck films obviously means. She meant what she said when she said she's done with acting acting. I know a lot of actors want to say that just so we'll say tobacco. Oh no please don't stop acting. You're so great adage. Rose hasn't heard that yet. No one is telling me how to please go back to known saying it and that's a shame because i'm not kidding out. Rose was once really electric on film. She was beautiful. She was fierce. She was really good at what she did but ever since she became a defiant defiant crazy eyed feminists liberal bitch hollywood soured on her. You know you can't give yourself a fucking crew cut and where cherry red lipstick and vape all day or you're going to get cast as a villain in the next dick tracy remake you know she's got to be honest with yourself also don't date someone who looks like a man but is a girl who acts like he's bald. All fucking thing is so confusing whatever the fuck so we can't talk about rolls but something tells me we'd all rather hear about that pedophile who died in jail the you know what before how about we talk about john singleton today again. I'm sure a lot of you've heard about his mother and sister cleopatra arguing over the millions of dollars. He left behind some. I'm saying he left behind thirty five mil. I don't believe that at all think is closer to ten but anyhow a lot of money does also the cryptic message. John's is mother posted on instagram his mother sheila ward and she blamed john's final baby mama raven jones. She said that the she just sat there idly by as john singleton was convulsing in the bathtub vomiting up blood the last night he was home before he went to the hospital and never came home. She said all raven did was hand john their baby boy baby boy she liked it. They're i use one of his movie titles. She handed them their baby boy by appropriately named seven since it was his seventh kid and <hes> he was apparently experiencing tremors throwing up tab and she was cold fucking fish. She didn't even call an ambulance now what she did. She gave him a cup of tea thinking that would help him this. This is a guy who already had multiple strokes before that night which never gets reported except for here but the bigger story here is that singleton's mom is absolutely convinced convinced that that little boy seven is not her son's son guy and that's important because raven is obviously going to go after some of singleton's money body and claim that the boy is his blood. I got a few friends out there. I got friends in canada sure i do. I got friends in candler telling me otherwise that tell me that he is not the father so his mom she'll award is going to try and demand a paternity test so at this baby mama doesn't get fucking die and by the way those of you plan the john singleton home game. He had five kids with five baby. Mamas in two kids was <unk> actual wise clearly. This man doesn't believe in pulling out so yeah we can talk about singleton all by the way for you. A numerology raji buffs. Neither we segue at the jeffrey epstein. Did you know the jevon sixty six years old and six months when he died six six six that creepy and don't forget one of his addresses of sixty six. It's a lot of sixes in in in <hes> jeffrey epstein's life. I don't believe in all that ship. A lot of people do so listen zain. How 'bout we talk about my exclusive story. You know i mean epsteins a big story in but was i got an exclusive story. I don't even talking about because i want to talk about jeffrey epstein so badly but for those interested the actress paths de la hoya told you about in different podcasts even recently soleil especially a week or two about when i i said she was unraveling on social media on all sorts of drugs cocaine suboxone math whatever the <unk> paint pills n how has delaware was officially finally committed to a psych ward sometime friday or thursday yes finally somebody stepped in case. It was a very rich mother. Her mother stepped in shutdown paths delaware this phone lines and cancelled our instagram and twitter and facebook accounts johnson took her away. It's not the first time they locked her up. I could've told them that. Her daughter was not sent in need of immediate help many many months ons ago. I tried to help the garage told you guys but she was making no fucking sense on these posts that did end no grammar no period she was she was tagging brett. Ratner sean penn crispin glover a lot of people. Oh she was insane. Maybe she really is insane saint but then she blocked me so i couldn't help but this is big news for harvey weinstein see how all things lead the harvey but this is big news for him because she he was one of the actresses who accused him of rape twice and now her credibility is in question back in may her friends took it to a hospital because they said she was suicidal. She got released from the hospital and she said that her friends were lying but the point is when your friends do that. Even if you're right it doesn't look good and now there's this latest drama and there's a drama from the past which when she spent six months in some kind of psych mike ward in europe. The girls got problems. I'm not trying to make light of it but <hes> it's it's good news lobby and other harvey wanting developments. It's by the way there's also news that another one of his accusers annabella sierra is not going to be able to be a supporting witness at his upcoming rape and sex assault trial well. The prosecutors were hoping to use her to build a to help build a case of his years long pattern of abuse but the judge is james burke refused to allow her testimony now fame fans know that annabella is my friend has been my friend for over twenty years and about six six months ago we spoke about what she says harvey guitar she saw that i was involved in a documentary that went to the toronto film fell tribeca one of the other untouchable and when she saw my name she thought maybe i talked about her. I didn't talk about her documentary but long talk and she cried when she told me me how harvey barged into her <hes> her apartment gramercy park apartment beautiful place and he forced himself on her. That's what annabella sets and she knows that he and i are friends but she wanted to let me hear the details and i'm glad she did because when you hear a friend tell you about these actions action that have been alleged by a lot of women it gave me pause and i'm sure a lot of women out there. Were happy that this gave me pause but it's weird. I do you believe annabella. I do believe what she said happened happened and i don't know her to be a liar. Ever you know harvey told me they were france and annabella was lonely. I need a slap at there and you know. How would it be rape if she then starred in his film cop bland a few years later when she played so vesta loans wife you know i understood what he meant but his annabella put it she needed to work. It's not easy for a woman getting up there in age to turn down a role. They don't come every week like hollywood was listening to women back in the nineties who said a big executive rape them. Now you know most of the time i'm for for for a century that has had to keep their mouths shut and because i'm a man and i have no idea what it's like to possess vagina that makes men do very scary crazy crazy violent things at times i said look a lot of guys can't understand the word rape. If <hes> you working for a guy who did that horrible thing. Thank you know how do you doesn't make sense and like most men. I was made to understand that if anything goes on after the woman says no it's ray i think i know that's true not stupid but i think a lot of us have this notion that rape is really truly raped when a when a guy pulls you into a dark alley and holds a nine hundred throat and fox sure that's we think that's what we've seen rape to be. When a guy works pass the word no and the women's not consenting we don't think of that as quote unquote rape but it is and there are a lot of scenarios to rape and and maybe the best thing about the horrible accusations against harvey is that a lot of men get to understand those variations so we can talk about that. All we can talk about boycotts. We can talk about the list of companies supporting donald trump for reelection and the people who want to boycott them right in and out burger chick-fil-a taco bell mcdonald's wendy's k._f._c. pizza hut olive garden getting hungry waffle house ihop carl's junior. They're all supporting donald so all you liberals better be looking really fucked and then by twenty twenty because you're not going to be eaten governor. Even though you're not cycling at soul cycle or equinoxes working out you can between the food. You're not going to consume. These fast. Food joints that support trump. You should look nice and trim or we can talk about how the f._b._i. Is not able to crack mass shooter connor bets iphone and two. I just never broke never believe those stories that is bullshit. I don't fucking believe the most powerful law enforcement bureau in the the world can't but i don't believe that i think we're being lied to by a lot of big people fuck it. Let's just talk about jeffrey epstein okay. Let's let's let's do this. We're all thinking about it. It's been on a saturday afternoon. Listen aside from the conspiracies. We've all heard of and by the way if you wanna hear what i think about what happened to him in that that cell goto patron make the jump and listened to it and all you folks out there who haven't done it yet go to f. b. Nation dot com get on there because all the shows are going to be coming from that several hundred you've done it. We need tens of thousands of you to come over. Let's do it join us. We're we're making should happen. There's pictures videos as the recipes as merchandise. It's going to be where i do everything you've heard this pitch before. You're gonna hear a few more times. I need you all to go there. It's the last ask place between patriots and f. i. B. nation dot com the last two places. I can be who i am without somebody. Shut me down like fucking norm pat. It's at pot podcast on so go there any aside from all these conspiracies that we've been hearing every every the last two days. There are some very bizarre czar stories coming out that are equally interesting equally is crazy to that was something that came out. That's very chilling. I don't read those fortune h. and fucking. They're they just to insane but something came on port. Fortunate was posted four fifteen a end. That's three hours before jeffrey. Epstein was found dead in his the cell and at four fifteen. Somebody posted that after the <hes> after the four fifteen a._m. Headcount they saw jeffrey epstein. Get taken to medical. They took him in a wheelchair. He was front coughed but it wasn't one on triage nurse that says they talked to him to okay that transfer from his cell to medical next thing this person saw was a a a medical van pull up to the emcee and normally there are no releases on the weekends for inmates unless the judge specifically orders one. The next thing they said was that epstein was put in a single man. Sell obviously you know and the hung up the next thing they said at at that point was the van. Nobody signed up. Nobody signed the van in nobody. Nobody recorded the license plate on the van but the person said they saw a guy in green dress military in the back of the van brian go back. I fucked pot up. I'm really sorry. I fucked that thing by sense there. It doesn't make sense when i said next thing is said he was put in a single man sell in hangers. Take that out <hes> doc to silver. I'm sorry brian. We're going to go back to the fortune saying <hes> okay eh so something was posted on four chan at four fifteen a m saturday more. That's three hours before epstein was found dead in his cell and it was said that after the four fifteen a._m. Headcount epstein was taken to medical took him in a wheelchair <hes> he was front cuffed act but not one triage. Nurse says they talk to him next thing. That report was a medical van pulled up to the m._c._c. Now normally there renault prisoner releases on the weekends <hes> unless the judge specifically ownership and then they say the thing is that the trip with the van was not signed in you know nobody recorded license plate of his van coming to the m._c._c. very shady very mysterious but the person in the tower who let the van in and reports or people close to the tower because no one put a name on this is the novice this particular person at the m._c. said in the back of the van that was a man in green address military and very creepy so what happened the jeffrey epstein is in that van who had the van come there and who who in the m._c. knew what was happening in okayed all this and the guy even signed off the chat by saying you guys is i'm shaking right now. I don't know how much of this stuff is true but i just know maybe there are hackers out there that can manipulate time stamp. Whatever the fuck it is creepy need to see that three hours before anything happened. Maybe somebody was just putting together like a version of what would happen because there are a lot of people out there like myself who thought they would be killed. <hes> whatever but it's creepy that it's out there but one of the interesting things about this whole thing is now that all listen all the information is now in the the hands of the f._b._i. And the department of justice but you'd think they'd be able to ryan the lab some of his friends and co conspirators and accomplices now they probably are as we speak and i think you know all they have right now all the stories. We've heard and other things we haven't heard yet and this is monday morning. So things are going. It'd be released <hes> in the next several days even even his his not toxicology but is the report of how he died is going to release too so a lot of things might come to light. All ra might be lied to again but they have everything they need. Now i think clearly to indict julianne maxwell his madame accomplished whatever the fuck ex-girlfriend but i hear that jalil maxwell so fucking scared not only because of <hes> how many times name has been mentioned as a sexual predator not just a madam who lined up the teenage girls but as a predator who got involved in these scenarios in areas but also because she's having a hard time with anybody extending a hand to help her everyone she knows and that includes the wealthiest the wealthy the most powerful of the most powerful want nothing to do with the right now on the other hand they know she has the goods on them because of what they did wilde with jeffrey epstein so their spot too but it's amazing to watch it so exciting to watch. I can't wait to throw a rope around her and dragged the court or the prison region but i hate to tell you. I don't think there's ever going to happen. That's never going to be the case. I think john maxwell will end up dead as well either by suicide aside or murder and i think that will happen very soon and that'll be terrible because survivors of epstein epsteins predation have been rob of their right to seek justice and before i go forward. Let me let me thank my tippy top might crop. I haven't thank you guys in a while and i wanna make sure i get this in angelique. Keller see lou. Debbie-ann catherine speed catherine stood patricia markel ordure fortune chris slovania elise melanie howell wendy mukasey nicole patterson george can ask dr george can ask to you eric far k. alley chichi trained heather grendel angeles amino chris star ryan wolfe and russ urquhart. Thank you guys very very much much. Let me say something about the <hes>. The death pictures real quick as we've been seeing him since saturday. I know the new york post paid a lot of money to get get those photos and they wouldn't just get a thought. Oh because it's a funnel. They'd have to make sure it was real. There was a big discrepancy out there that these are not the real big. This isn't him some fucking bozos. I think it's a picture of anthony bourdain. Snowboarding people say the ears the nose don't match and those are two pieces on the human body which you use to absolutely unequivocally typically identify people by they say it's not a match i think match i think the knows that kinda rounds out in the death picture is the same knows i scene having on during one of the court proceedings where he's in court you see his profile. It's a rounded nose. I know the ear looks a tad different. Maybe somebody fucking punched him in the head. Eh a different. I don't know but to me it's jeffrey epstein through and through through and through now some people think he's still on the twenty four seven military security pretty in a holding cell no way near any of the reports of an italian. I don't buy that either last night me and they'll double one adult on the phone. He thinks he's still alive. Oh i don't again listen to the patriot. I give you my opinion on whether he was killed or committed suicide but the biggest argument for jeffrey epstein gene still being alive. Is you know you think trump who is under attack for the deep state would let his smoking done though unsupervised east and by the way donald trump sent out no haunting cryptic tweet about epstein weekend. You know donald saturday night sunday morning. He's tweeden. I'd a crazy not one tweet unless i missed it. I don't think i did either way guys. This is all feeder everything that's happening. Since saturday morning. It just has erupted into theater some of it farce some of it true. It's up to us to fill up to me to figure it all out but we've all got arise on this. This is not something i'm picking up and delivering to you. Guys have no idea about this is something they're all able to discern and look at and pick apart. We we all feel like we're experts and that's okay. It's like watching a murder mystery. We all think we have a hand in who did it and how it was done and that's fine. We're gonna argue about this for the next fifty to one hundred years but look at how much this benefits us the people who wanna put who wanted to put jeffrey. If do you know what it better look everybody. They have it all. The guy was already indicted. The intelligence gathered the island was seized. The victims victims were interviewed. The tunnels were cleanse. You know it doesn't stop those involved from being prosecuted. The investigation can basically already happened. What i think will also slowly unfold because surprise there are several hundred more sealed documents to be unsealed field soon and more stories in theories of unfold but what i expect to come out is the fact that people have mentioned seeing his airplane being in places like the balkans and kosovo. Those aren't vacation destinations as you know. They've obviously seen it in haiti. Which we know is a sex trade hub. We're talking to centering of great invest international implications and listen. We're supposed to hear the autopsy report later on today day. Maybe as i'm talking it's already out. I don't know but that's gonna be fun not necessarily believable but fun. I like it. They got michael baden auden. He was present during the autopsy and so is the f._b._i. Like i believe the fucking f._b._i. I don't care. I don't care the f._b._i.'s there that that sheds more. You're complications on things now. I doubt things even more because they're they're god. They've lost their reputation but then again my father told me when i was a kid there a bunch of lyon astles and he's right. He's been proven right but you know they got michael. Baden who knows michael bond supposed to be the greatest medical examiner is. I think that they told us to believe that the medical examiner thomas noguchi was the shit turns out. He got a lotta shit wrong on some of the most notorious deaths of all time. Michael baden was once house that is a medical examiner by mayor ed koch couple of decades ago so not sure he's the right guy to to be present for epstein cracked open either way a lot going on this big. This is big bigger than the justice select. Let subway sandwich hate crime caper and you know how much i love that story. If we're lucky this case will take us right up to the harvey weinstein trial on september tonight and that'll make us all happy but this jeffrey epstein trial who might get this is gonna go on for years. It's going to be one of those things. We don't know all the answers to unless something shattering battering hundreds but we have only gotten the tip of the iceberg yes he's dead and it's almost like now that he's dead. Everything can come out. I think the victims victims will be compensated wants to properties are sold. It's gonna take some time. They'll be a civil trial. I believe that can happen. The criminal case is done wants to guy dies. It's over but there's gonna be a lot of things happening and by the way expect now that he's dead expect other people to come forward and talk now that he's gone. I think people are gonna grow some balls and suddenly they're going to be brave enough to tell their story and we're not even know if it's really true but the key to all of this. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. It might be happening outing as we speak. Chilean maxwell needs to be indicted and set up top. I don't think that's going to happen because i think chile to kill herself or or be murdered before that day ever comes and that's going to be another whole cannell words a can of delicious worms will feast on for many many many years to come. I'm jay bands. Are that was your fame bitch podcast august twelve twenty nineteen and i'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you for listening fame. Bitch is an a._j. Benza workhouse connect production featuring the endless wisdom insightful commentary and sometimes fucked up perspective of a._j. Benza executive producer mike agatha no technical producer ryan vazquez.

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Iain MacLeod - Writer, Filmmaker, Film Educator

Blackout Podcast

45:39 min | 6 months ago

Iain MacLeod - Writer, Filmmaker, Film Educator

"This is the blackout podcast. Welcome to the blackout podcast. Where I get to talk to amazing people that drive meeting things answered? I have someone respekt on lending fro in McLeod. Thanks thanks for having me. I don't know if I'm amazing but I'm happy to be I know it. Will I ever have coupe because I read the film on the phone? And then only you know you need to go to the police in Iran NBA Comey and then the scriptwriting thing and you know. I don't know why everyone is celebrates the art on the dark to a book. It all starts with the fucking script. Yes I like what? You're saying US dark attack. There's no really so. I remember thinking screen. Writing Workshop chills should end of taking thing three or four times. Yeah and the next one gonna pack kind of when you were there. I thought because you were taking notes on your phone but I didn't realize you're taking notes. You're just texting somebody so this do and I've lost him but then you came back a second and a third time like I don't understand all the time but he keeps coming back. Maybe maybe there's something I don't understand that. Yeah I'm glad you enjoy it. Yeah I know I know. Does this I think it was the first one where you put a photo of like like I think it's more the streaming England okay. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah I mean this crazy Foreign Lake Como with people's that's not. My original idea stole that like I think that's a different people have used that idea of like you. You start trying to build a story out of a photo what's going on and just kind of a kind of way to get people thinking about story and I actually used to do. I've taught a lot of stranding workshops and I used to kind of do a lot more kind of information dumping you know this is a three act structure. This is this. This is that and now I kind of feel like. I'm a little scared to do this but I just want to spend the whole workshop just making a story with the people in the class. Because I think that's really how you learned to write by writing so yeah I agree I agree so tell me a bit about your background. Well I grew up mostly in new Glasgow in a picture. County in Nova Scotia. We moved around a little bit but it was mostly there and My Dad was a minister so I kinda had religious upbringing and You know it was a very new glasses. Very kind of working class community I I I would say my family was pretty solidly middle class. But it was a working class environment and very Scottish Certainly not exclusively Scottish but You know there that cultural kind of influence in the in the community and I watched TV a lot. When I was a kid huge soccer fan. I've got my best excite you so and I was. I was a real when I was a kid. I was unreal. I Dunno I suppose this is probably something to do with colonialism but I was a a real anglophile as a kid and I used to love watching British films and TV. And you know so. Yeah but I think I had a pretty I grew up in the eighties. Pretty sort of you know in some ways. Typical Small Town Nova Scotia kind of upbringing. And because of the religious thing and I think also because of the fact I grew up in a very Scottish area I was. I was very aware of that too. In those were big influences. I'd say okay and then. How do you feel unstuck well like I say I watch TV? So I think that was probably an influence but for me It really started when I was in grade. Twelve at the integrate twelve. I was in I was taking a sociology class and there was a group presentation and actually it's funny because I know a lot of people who went to school in other countries and they all Kinda say that. Oh like in Canadian schools. There's always a big focus on presentation and in a lot of other countries. That isn't the case. I actually did not found. Find that to be the way. And maybe it's just again because of my age but there were very few presentations in school but this was and maybe this is partly why I remember it so much But this was a pretty big one. There was a a group and we had to present to the class so the group decided. Let's do a video as part of this and this was like nine hundred ninety s it was spring nineteen ninety and video cameras. Were they'd been around for a little while but they weren't very most people didn't have them so we rented my friends and I rented a video camera from Stereo store so all these words are things that don't even nobody knows what they what they are and then We so we shot this video. It was about immigration. We did that. We had to pick a social topic. It was sociology class and so we interviewed a friend mine who was from Poland and we somehow got an interview with the local Immigration Officer. And then we stole this news clip from CBC edited to VCR's and we did the titles were like white paper on a white table that we pulled along with the credits and then we also put in like lots of just music that we like to like punk music and whatever and which didn't fit but was kind of part of its charm and I had so much fun. That was the most fun I've ever had certainly in school. But maybe just in life and so it really planted. This seed of film is something. That's fun to do and I I think like I knew that people made films obviously but growing up in a small town in Nova Scotia at that time before the Internet. It was just something like I couldn't. I wouldn't even know how to begin to even think about doing not let alone doing it and so I just kind of kept making videos with my friends and I again. I watch TV. I watch movies and slowly over time. It became this idea that maybe this is something I could do. And so that's probably where it started and it kind of grew from there and am a little dizzy immigration on guys. Read now I don. I wish I did and I don't have it like I have stuff we 'cause we we had the camera for the whole weekend so we might as well do something else so we did this. Ridiculous kind of sort of horror spoof and one in the backyard all my friends. I think we still have that somewhere. But I don't have the immigration thing and it just kills me like that's one of my biggest like schools. Still have it. Oh God no they. Don't they tore it down? They they kept stuff two weeks after now. I don't think they have a and then the other thing is too because it's like video costs a lot of money. It's not like we were doing two copies five bucks or something so now we I think there was only everyone copy and I don't know it was sort of lost to the and so did you go straight to film school or Linda. Film course no I again. Because I didn't I wasn't by that time already applied the university Well I went to kings and the first year at King's is called the foundation year program. And you do sort of like it's a crash course in western civilization. You don't do individual elective so much but it was You know I wasn't really ready for university and there are a lot of rich kids from Toronto there and so after a couple of months I dropped out and had a had a dead end job in a video warehouse in new Glasgow. I moved back home again. That's something that doesn't even and while there was a company that was owned by Sohbi's actually was called Downey's video and what we did. We had the contract to distribute videos to the sobe stores used to videos and all the convenience stores used to have videos like the needs and then there were also like independent sort of like corner shops that would videos and so the bigger stores would deal directly with the distributors. Warner Brothers or whatever in Montreal Toronto but we were kind of these like middleman if you well we dealt with a lot of the local kind of places plus OBI's and so we my job. I was called a movie trader. And I would get. I would get a printout on a computer They did of computers. And I will get this and it'd be like a dope matrix to rip the Ben. Anyway I get this out of all the movies that particular video store had had in the last year and I had to go to the shelves and get sixty movies. They hadn't had the first like thirty or forty. Were real easy to find you. Get into this thing where it was like harder to find titles. Was it a range alphabet? No they had like A. I don't remember exactly like a number code. The yeah so the last sort of ten or fifteen would be really hard to find so I you know I'd send them like Japanese movies and then I write a little card in got in trouble for this. Thank you for supporting Japanese cinema. And like so you'd have some some corner store on the south shore somewhere and they be complaining about the movies so anyway so I did that and then I had a couple of other. I worked in a funeral home at one point. Yeah how do I was just like? It was a summer kind of job and again. I'm I got it. I guess because my dad was a minister and knew the you know so it was just a summer job so I was basically just helping out so that everybody could take their two weeks holiday over the course of the summer they sort of rotate and so a lot of what I was doing was I might be answering the phone at night or on bi of vacuuming sweeping up or opening the door for people at wakes that kind of thing so I did that. I did that just for the summer. And then I you know I had a few other jobs and then eventually I decided you know what I'm not really. Oh and they're also a couple of failed attempts at moving to England. When I was twenty move over Kazu loved. I got there and I realized. Oh this is really hard and now anyone what am I doing? And I- bail in. How is the weather in England? And what's better than here? Well it doesn't snow so but I think it's probably probably rains more though exciting. It is how yeah so. I I tried. That didn't really work out. And I realized at that point I was just before I was twenty one. I'm like I need to go back to school. So we when you England was Alwin wisdom stat it now. I became a West Ham found about twelve or thirteen before the I am old. Yeah well the team. Yeah I yeah. I don't know why I just randomly picked them. They were like in shoot magazine or match magazine or one of those magazines in the past two kind and so yeah so I decided I had to go back to school and again because this was right before the Internet information was harder to get. You couldn't just go online and find stuff out so I actually missed. I was going to go to. I went to York and I was GonNa do a film degree but the film deadline was earlier than the general deadline. So I missed it so I went into the English dream and then I was then I was going to switch in my second year but because I kinda did the math and I realized at the I don't know if they still do this or not but at the time and Ontario you could do three or degree and So I did the math and I realized that in the summer when I came home I could do classes at Cena vacs and I could do three or degree at your years stayed in English. I didn't I took so I took one or two films theory classes but that I did an English degree and then when I got out of school I moved back to Nova Scotia and I somehow convince my mother to loan me. Money shouldn't didn't tell my dad how much Salami money to make film and that was my first film. Did you do for the film before your stuff for the money? Yeah it was. It was the film I made. I sorta say it was about Violet Desmond but it. Kinda really wasn't. It was about the night she was arrested. And I for those who don't know although hopefully most people do and her her stories more and more sort of well known and she's on the ten dollar bill now. Oh Good God saving but I think having under on the thing is making me saving like into saving because whenever I get it. Turnbull Yard High. Just keep it so yeah. I'm having a staff. Yes so I had I didn't. I grew up in the town that she was so basically. It was in November nineteen forty-six. There's an African Nova Scotian businesswoman from Halifax Viola Desmond. Who went to new Glasgow and her car broke down and she wanted to serve. Kill some time really and so she went to the Roseland Cinema and at the time it was racially segregated and she didn't know that because in Nova Scotia at the time it was kind of there wasn't a universal kind of segregation policies. From what I understand anyway so she. She was sold without realizing a ticket to the balcony Which was where African Nova Scotia's were quote unquote? And she went downstairs and was asked to leave because the and then the the sort of explanation was that only paid for so she said we'll all pay the difference and of course. That wasn't what the issue was and sort of had escalated. The theater manager came the cops came. She actually spent the night in jail and Was in in the end. The charge was defrauding the government one cent because that was the difference in the amusement tax. Right so it's it's this very and she took it. She appealed and lost in a in a high court. And so it's very famous story and Canadian civil rights history. And so I didn't. I didn't I had gone to that movie like that's the movie theater where I saw Alabama in right like it was this. It was an. I didn't know this story until like one thousand nine hundred ninety three and nineteen ninety four at York in Toronto in the student newspaper during Which at the time was called black history month reading about this story and going. Oh my God. This is where I grew up. I didn't even know this story was in my mind and I I didn't really I still don't really have a but I especially didn't then but even then somehow I knew it wasn't my place to tell her story so I wrote this story that happened on the night of her arrest and it's sort of about the white new Glasgow's response to it and then there's this secret interracial relationship that's kind of the the kind of the way in and it's not a great movie to be on like what did you call. It was called Here's a piece of advice by. It's called November nineteen forty six. I ever ever ever ever ever name a movie a date April nine thousand nine hundred seventy three like nobody ever remembered. Disaster is being really clever. Yates had written a number of poems. Called the things like Ireland in April nineteen. Thirteen that kind of thing. And so I thought. Oh look how clever. I'm being but nobody ever shaded so anyway I made and so that was really my film school because it was basically almost an hour long. What's you and I had? I had now hold on. Did you shoot him for it was It was forty minutes. Long shot over. I think it was fifteen days and it was. It was really. It was meant to be three weekends and it turned into six and I had no idea was doing. There's no ad. I didn't even know what that wise and so I did. I scheduled it at all and arranged all myself and I thought I was being smart by having this twenty nine minute sort of centerpiece set in a diner in the of film. But it's like basically what I realize after and not that long after either unfortunately was oh this is a play is is filmed the play and so but we we shot in this sort of cafe diner impact out and it closed at six o'clock on Saturday night and it opened on six o'clock Saturday Monday morning so what I should have done. Yes so what I should have done was given them a bunch of money to close for a couple more days and just shoot it out in the day and you know put like a paper in the window or sort of dark and you know. Keep the light from coming. But I stupidly thought Oh I know what I'll do I'll shoot all night Saturday and I'll shoot all night Sunday and you know everybody was really messed up and it just was this. It just became this nightmare. Doing I think it was the first three weekends we were at that at that location and and it was just like yeah it was a really it was a long drawn out not always fun. Sort of experience. I guess what he moves a good grief film school though because Yeah Linda is my everything. I really learned most of the the most important things I learned. I I learned on that on that film in that experience and like I had my. I cast my grade teacher as one of the actors and I don't mean this in a critical way but it just Kinda wasn't working out with his performance during rehearsals and I actually fired him and so they're great stories that Kinda come you know. There's also the racist makeup guy it was there was it was kind of a master class in not only how not to make a film but how like not to approach a difficult subject. centered on race as a as a sort of well intentioned white liberal. Whatever you know like there was a there were a lot of things I did wrong so okay and then after that I experience land all these things how long before you meet Phil I was about a year. Oh what was the next one? The next one was called. Cfa It was a mockumentary about folk art. So what does if well see a stood for a couple of things so it stands for come from away oh but it also stood for the initials of the main character who is like this American folk art enthusiast and it was it was a mockumentary and it was about a half hour so the the first four films I made there was an hour and two half hours and none of these links cell. Nobody buys those film festivals. Don't program them and I had no. I didn't know that so I made all this kind of I should of made even when it's funny even when the first film November nineteen forty-six played at worm woods in the just up the street in the film festival in one thousand nine hundred six. I remember my dad saying who doesn't know anything about the film industry. There was a five minute film that was also in that same program and he said you know you've probably should have done five minute and of course he's right. You can a lot of the lessons I learned on my forty eight minute film or I shouldn't say my but the forty eight minute film. I learned I was on a five minute film to own. You asked me what it was. It was shot on sixteen. I had which is why cost so much. I'd this ridiculous idea in my mind that because I wanted to shoot on sixteen and in fairness at the time video looked a lot colder than digital does now but it was black and white and so we shot in sixteen and then just dumped it onto Beta and edited on video. So I remember. I won't tell you how much the whole thing cost but I will too my my mother my watch this at some point. I don't know but the I think the bill to magnetic North Toronto is eight eight hundred dollars for all they did was all but they. They transferred the film after it had been at the lab. Monto Beta and we've supplied the tapes. What's and they so they transferred it onto Beta and everything and that was eighty eight hundred dollars. I can't say it because it's still painful. Eighty eight hundred. Yeah there's a lot of money yes it is because there was no budget and because I hadn't planned and it was just sees you pay like p. them for the day. Yeah Yeah Yeah it was per day. I don't think it was that much and we actually had the training programs with actor were still in their infancy but we did have. One of the performers was a Halifax theater legend. Who's no longer with US David? Renton who was in Neptune's first season in one thousand nine hundred sixty three and was this kind of at the time he was in his sixties and he. He graciously agreed to be in the film and got paid way less than he should have and was just a real trooper and A. You should've just I guess just about this. The more you sound like you were agree producer as we should be doing because getting such a person on your film although he was. Yeah I don't know I think he maybe just felt. Sorry for me was more like okay. I mean you know the story to. It's a really important story. I probably wasn't the person to tell it and I was. You know I was certainly in over my head but he was he. Would I think at the time he was? He wanted to get more. He was at that time. He was a member of AFC coupe and he wanted to get more involved in the community and I remember when I first met him. Actually it was During Salter Street which is which I think they've changed the name again. Had this show called LAX. Which was this sci fi show and there used to be? This is how old I am which I've mentioned four times but there used to be a Volvo factory facts but I think they just assembled stuff that came from Sweden and then that have been empty for a while and then they were shooting. There weren't sound stages at the time so they'd they'd sort of improvised stage in there so I think the first time I met. David Renton was on this. He was dressed as an outer space wizard and I went to meet him on. Sat and I passed. Rutger hauer going through the door because he was he was in that episode and I didn't even recognize him. I wasn't really genre sort of person in my friend. Who's with me? Got Really Nervous and he was like Mr our house like high and then he just kept going so. That's not really much of a story about okay. Wendy you start writing link you meet. All these movies was got between that and actually writing for people know well what happened was I was really I sort of like. I made four movies kind of one after the other in the late nineties and I had a plot and then at sort of in the middle of that I got my first. Tv Job writing on streets and so it was a CBC show that was kind of like a youth show that focused on consumerism. And Start Teaching kids how to save money and whatever but there were sketches in it. That did this so I was one of the people who are at the sketches so I did a season there be tween that was in ninety nine and I made. I actually made two movies in ninety nine and so like I was really starting to make more it was getting into festivals and and then I had applied to the Canadian Film Centre in Toronto Three Years in a row as a director. And I didn't get in and the last time I got shortlisted and I had an interview and I didn't get in and so I got in touch with them and I said you know I'm just wondering if you have any feedback and they said you're not a director which you know is not so easy to hear. You are a writer So there's like a silver lining. It's like oh well I. I'M NOT A director. I guess but apparently I'm a writer and so I applied as a writer and any reason for how to Kim's now no even years later there was no and then eventually I realized Oh maybe they were wrong and maybe they weren't I don't know but So I applied as a writer and I got in and I went and so I did a program there that they don't have any more. They rolled into another program but called the professional screenwriting program. How long was that was just three months? Most of their programs are just a few months and so usually what would happen would be. It's kind of like a film finishing school in a way. And even though it's it's modeled on AF I in the states. It's really a short term kind of intensive like you got at AF. I think you get an MFA now like it's a degree granting Kinda but So I went there and then so again. I'm thinking oh I'm a writer not a director and then almost immediately after finishing I got an agent and I got a job on a show. I was on for six years trailer Park Boys. How was that house though and it was really I look back and like it was a great experience but I was. I was terrified the whole time I was there because I started writing our story editor in season two so the the the original show was seven years so I was there from season to season seven but I had briefly in season one for the first two days done continuity which was a ridiculous thing to do on that show particularly in the first year and there was at the time the province. Which if you know anything about films a ridiculous idea but they had this scheme. Where if you had worked in one area of the industry you could get training in another area. Which is I mean. Anybody knows film. It's it's about specialization. So you don't really do that. But I somehow got in to this and I was supposed to be trained to be a continuity person but there was no training. It was just like okay. Here's your clipboard. Here's this call. Time is and it's like okay and then trailer Park Boys. Of course especially in that first year it was just like okay. Now we're going to do is seen at the side of the street and it's like what. What number is this? It's not in the script and different people so at the end of day to day. Call me and the producers and then it's not really your fault but it's not really working out. Would you like a part time office job instead and my pride was really hurt? This is this is before I went to the film center and my pride was really hurt and I said no but I didn't I didn't freak out or wasn't rude or anything and then in the meantime I went And actually I. I forgot this part. I between so that was the summer of two thousand and I went to film center in the winter of two thousand and one and that fall. I didn't get brought back to St stands now. All the secrets are coming. Nobody really cares. I guess but so street sense had hidden. The writers who were writing sketch from the writers guild found out an answer. They restructured the whole way. The show was was made so I didn't. I didn't have a job and so I was a PA. 'cause you ought to be a member of the Gill to you. Don't have to be a member but you have to be paid the the union rank so and they didn't have it in the budget. So yeah so I I was a a on a dock that fall and I was broke a lot and so then even though I was broken my life was kind of falling apart. I thought well. Why don't I try to make a feature film for a thousand dollars and so Polo? Was this real. Oh well it didn't get made so feary eighty five minutes. But we shot for three days Oh it was. It was a paintball thriller set in the woods country which is a great title. Actually yeah and it is a great script. I wrote it with my friend Ian Johnson who'd also written on on street sense and it was Was So we went and we started shooting and we were. It was early December. And we're gambling that the weather would hold and it didn't. There was a blizzard. We got shot game. It was just a nightmare so we abandoned this project and I think I actually I was at my friend who was involved in the making that film and WHO's sadly is no longer with us. I was at his grandmother's house. And who had that? She's still alive at the time. She was in her eighties. And we're watching jeopardy and I my back I'd thrown up my back making this movie and she. This woman who's an eighties was taken care of me and I was in my twenties still and so she gave me this electric blanket and I was just sort of like this almost in tears watching jeopardy with her and it was at that time when this film just fell apart that I have my interview with the Film Center and got in and then so it was like oh I guess I'm not a director. I'm a writer so then I got on trailer Park Boys right away. I'm not answering question but anyway so because I had done continuity and kind of been fired but Kinda not when they asked me to be on trailer park voice next year and the Story Department. I had that in my mind and actually had that in my mind for the whole six years and I. I'm going to be fired at any moment so even though it was I in one way I really enjoyed and it was a lot of fun and I feel like I can say this because I didn't create the show. I think it was a great show but I was always scared of being fired so I never totally relaxed and Yeah so that's and then I so I didn't really make my own stuff during those six years and I was getting paid. Okay and I was you know worked half the year and it was. I thought life was pretty good and then The show ended and it never occurred to me that there wouldn't be something to replace it. I mean I knew the show wouldn't last forever but I thought I'll just bounce onto something else and if I thought about it at all I thought oh I hope I like that other show that I it just it just kind of because an eye partway through trailer. I moved to New Glasgow. I think that was a this ridiculous idea I had and so I moved back down there so not only was I not in Toronto. I wasn't even in Halifax so really if you're getting TV work. You need to be in Toronto Hustling and I wasn't doing that and I just assumed it would all work out. What was the Trillo? Poke a writer's room in Fox. Where would yeah it was in Halifax and it was BA balanced? The last season we were in rob wells garage dartmouth like it was a very. I was the only one who didn't smoke and like we're in this garage and they're okay. Yeah and there were a lot of like it was a very not only was the content of the show on conventional the way it was made was unconventional very different from the way most TV shows story departments are run and so it was a lot of it was just started trying to hang on and not you know but Yeah so I. After the show nothing really replaced at and then slowly I started making a living again with features that were in development. But I wasn't really making my own stuff and then sort of a few years after trailer Park Boys. I moved back to Toronto to try to see if I still had a career and I was there for about half of twenty twelve and you know trying to hustle and get some stuff going and it did. It just never really took off. I would over the years. Get these occasional consulting gigs on shows and stuff but nothing really kind of went anywhere and so I came back to Halifax and realized this is where I want to be and then said you know I haven't so this is like two thousand thirteen. Maybe I thought I haven't. I used to love making movies and I haven't done that in like ten years and because somebody and I'm not. I love this Canadian Film Centre. I'm really glad I want their. I'm grateful for it but because one or two people decide that twenty seven year old. Is this thing not that thing? I was not making moves so I said I'm going to start making stuff again so I started making my own things and it doesn't do any good to dwell on it but I do wish that I'd made that move earlier so very long humidity nup. Oh God if I have to say what the first thing is. This is another disaster. It was it was a movie about it was called body language. Look and it was it. It was basically a comedy about a couple who break up through charades and it actually wasn't bad but I sent the rough cut to the fan and it didn't get in and then I kind of because it was the first thing after a long time among maybe it's no good and I actually think okay dialogue inside or just now there's dialogue. Yeah and because they have to guess what the actions are. Yeah so then I got a grant I think the next thing I did was a short called suicide mission. I really yeah I really rely. And then I thought and that didn't really go anywhere either but then I thought. Oh maybe it's maybe I should be doing so I just kept making shorts. And then eventually some features to and what was the first one. Was your money away. Yeah that was twenty. Six died haven coma ball well so basically. It's the movie your mother your wife. It was as a micro budget through The providence used to have this program called first feature which is like a micro budget program and so they had it for four years and we were the last one and then the provincial agency agency shot during the tax credit the agency or the is well I I. It was the Nova Scotia Film Development Corporation but then it changed his name to film and Creative Industries Nova Scotia so the anyway the movies about this guy. His girlfriend dump some he goes out and gets drunk And then he it's cold it's wintertime so he breaks into a garage and sleeps. There wakes up and then the people in the garage are about to go do a home invasion. And they think he's the guy who's going to they met on the Internet. Who's going to help them? Write some and I and so the the. I don't know if I should say this but I'm going to so it came from this fact that my brother knew this guy impact. Oh County who had a few drinks one night and went into this garage. I guess it's breaking enter and slept it off and then stole a coat from this garage because it was cold and then he went home and he called my brother's like what do I do with this code and I just always thought that was a ridiculous picked. Oh cownie story and I thought it was funny and I wrote it down and then it just sort of you know. I had this idea about like like I don't know why like I. I'm very straight laced and I've had a very sheltered life so I find things like cocaine funding and like they're kinda not but I like I have this very kind of you know sort of and I think about particularly like you know you. Think ABOUT CERTAIN BRITISH COMEDIES. That you know farces and so on that were a big influence. Anyway that's where that came from so that was in two thousand fifteen. I really enjoy the thanks. How long you should that for. That was fourteen days. I think and Oh in winter which I do not recommend. Yeah well I guess we should winds I kinda get people see there the cruiser more available. So that's certainly helpful. And you can. Sometimes you know they might give you a deal on their rates or that sort of thing and it had gone pretty well but Yeah I don't recommend winter making my first my film five Paul. The thing again is kind of when he's wins. I kinda get people to Walk Stuff Ball Eve. You working wins Trying to shoot inside as much as was well. That's the other thing too the Steph. We shot outside. Most of the film was in one house inside but we did shoot some stuff outside and it looks great but I just remember standing at the monitor outside thinking. I wish I didn't have to be here. I'M GONNA LOSE FACE THOUGH. If I go in. The crew are already judging me. I can't go inside and it was so cold. Oh God so now what are you? I know your current well before you meet Your under life. Yeah the one with the kid from the future from and then came through. And how did the Mobile I was? I was in Glasgow in my thirties. Walking home one day I had gone to see a movie and I was walking and I thought if the twelve year old version of me could see me right now. He would be so angry. Because I'm still in this crappy little town and I haven't done anything with my life and and then that made me laugh and so I wrote it down and then I thought what would happen if somebody from the eighties. Who's twelve somehow ends up now seeing the forty year old version of himself. What and it didn't quite turn out the way they want and what would happen so is originally the idea. I I was England a few years ago and I pitched it as a TV show and there was like a little bit of interest but never really went anywhere. And then I thought you know I'd really like to make after I made your money your wife. I thought I WANNA make another feature and I. I'm I think could be done for no money so I wrote that script and we shot it for we did indigo and raised five grand for post but the shoot itself was eight hundred bucks five and a half hours. Oh what we did. You shouldn't brag about this. This is definitely not something to brag about but two different days. We shot seventeen pages. Yeah and they were only eight or nine hour days. Yeah yeah no never try that. Don't do that wait. Wait for the money or find a story if you find if you WanNa make a movie that doesn't have conventional coverage that you know you'd or you don't need lights or whatever you could probably do it but if you're doing it in a very small crew but if you're doing in kind of a conventional coverage way it's very challenging. Oh Man I imagine it and but now you you saw most recent film to Gaelic Ville. Yeah while you decide to make it feeling Gaelic. Well I have a abigail like background. My father's grandparents were all first language Gaelic speakers and I have a I have a gaelic name and so all my life. I've had to spell it for people and say that's weird or different or whatever and so it's always been something I've been interested in and over the years I would take lessons every once in a while on a kind of never went anywhere and then I was working at AFC coupon. A project called languages of Nova Scotia where we facilitated the making of films in different languages five different languages including Gaelic and at that time is about two years ago. I thought you know this is a real opportunity for me to try this again so for two years. Now I've been I'm still probably a low intermediate but I've been serious about trying to learn the language get involved in the community and so I just wanted to make a film and Gaelic. Because that's what I do. I make films so I had a script in English. That was a three hander and I thought could be done fairly easily. 'cause castings a bit of a challenge. There isn't as the pool isn't as big to drawn so I decided okay. This would be something that's manageable. So we shot in April it's called Antenna Espresso which means the Espresso Machine. And hopefully it will have a sort of a life in festivals beginning this fall. It's almost done so so what's left. Well a few things that color music and then the MIC. So it's You know the pictures lock okay. I did this subtitles and everything. So man that's not fun. Yeah Yeah how long is it? It's fifteen minutes okay which I wish it was a little shorter but I'm I'm pretty happy with it and there's not. I don't think there's a lot of fat in it so and then I want to do another gaelic short. Maybe this fall writing a couple of other things that hopefully will be eventually to gaelic feature a you all week from here on all still doing. I still do English. I'm writing a feature called Gen-x forever bitches. That's an English. That's about a bunch of people of different generations who keep ending up in the same car. The car keeps getting stolen. Okay again car. Theft is funded cocaine. I'M GONNA end it with this. I mean you love rights and you love stories of making films but what about comedy pulls you to especially if they tell style of comedy meek well to me a long time. I have a friend in London who said to me. He's like well. You do farce. That's what you do. I didn't even insertive. I hadn't really thought about it and I realized like the ITV Jeeves and wooster series with Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie from the early nineties. Was this huge influence on me and so yeah I would say farce and I think what drives me too. I just like I think I think the world is this beautiful crazy ridiculous place and you kind of have to laugh. And that's always been my response and I. When I was a kid I would. I would could make people. I don't know if I'm funnier. Not I think I am but maybe not but I could whenever I would make people laugh. I because I think what happens. Anybody in comedy basically doesn't like themselves and so you can make care if you can make somebody laugh you think. Oh maybe I'm not garbage right so I think that's where it comes from and it's just fun. It's like when you make a movie and it's in a theater and people are laughing. That is such an amazing feeling and so yeah not everything I write is comedy like November. Nineteen forty-six definitely not comedy. But that tends to be what I've I've mostly done and I just I find the world is so and you kind of have to you kind of have to laugh. You'RE GONNA cry like the world is really messed up. Probably always has been but never to. The degreed is now particularly climate change and so on the rise of fascism and again and so. I'm not saying that is anything more than a coping mechanism but it is a coping mechanism. And that's so I think that's where it Kinda comes from. I think I'm asking because it's super difficult to committee so remain exactly. Have you come to the house? Even get to talk about football now. We need to have a West Ham episode. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. This is the blackout podcast. Thanks for listening.

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Insider's Italy: An Off-The-Grid Travel Guide with Matt Goulding

Christopher Kimball's Milk Street Radio

50:52 min | 1 year ago

Insider's Italy: An Off-The-Grid Travel Guide with Matt Goulding

"Hi this is Christopher Kimball. Thanks for downloading this week's podcast you can go to our website one seven seven Milk Street Dot Com for recipes and culinary ideas from around the world now. Here's this week show. This is most radio from accenture host Christopher Kimball so in Yiddish the filter fish means stuffed fish and we always looked took a filter vicious sort of symbol of just the resourcefulness of of how far you can stretch one fish to feed a family. That's Jeffrey ASCA Wits Gasco Whitson LaSalle burner here to discuss their book the Filter Manifesto New Recipes for Old World Jewish foods but I they chat with Mac Goulding author Pasta on Vino Goulding traveled Italy discovered both the old and the new food made in the traditional manner as well as young chefs at the cutting edge of a new Italian queasy Matt. How're you doing well Chris yourself good in Pasta upon a Vino? There's two totally different themes one hand. Don't mess with tradition you right every time a chef puts cream sauce in Italian chef dies. We're not just offended. Were actually vomiting like that quote and then on the other hand you right everywhere you turn Italy you see examples of cuisine in a moment of great change. Perhaps the greatest this country has seen since World War Two so what hand if you had had garlic to amateur their riots in the streets and the other hand people are folding in Macho powder into fresh go yogurt so how how does that work tradition versus the new they just coexist from additional standpoint. I think there's still a lot of people inside and outside of Italy who believe Italian food should not be changed. It should be the way that it's been the carbon honor show always be made this way. Ragu show is be made that way and those traditions and should be protected but the side effect of that is sort of treating cuisine as if it were museum piece you know Italian cuisine as something encased in amber and of course it's not right as culture and culture by definition is is living breathing evolving organism and so I think for a long time that tradition really was maintained pretty firmly but now that Italy has been in a period of growth period of more stability and you're seeing a lot of younger shifts finally taking steps forward your book Pasta Pun a Vino. It's really a travel book to it's. I mean I have to say if anyone wants to go to Italy. They should by this book because they're also places. You've never heard of also lots of eateries that you've never heard of so mattera if I pronounce that properly I almost fell over reading this. Could you tell me the story of that because this these are houses that were really caves and the government swept everyone out of this town back in the nineteen fifties. He's right so the part of Mattera material is in Basilicata right on the edge of puja sort of near the he'll of the boot and it's really one of the most stunning small town small cities or large towns of Italy but it's had this very tragic history where for the better part of the first half of the twentieth century you have this community of cave-dwellers living in what was called the Sassy literally homes that were carved directly into the side of the mountain and you you know the system has been around for hundreds of years but the Italian government moved in force these people out of these old cave homes and then relocated them to these massive sort of block government housing. Why did they do that? They did that because they felt like the conditions these cases we're getting worse and worse health conditions that the poverty was was kind of growing at a control and this is sort of post World War Two Italy trying to sort of clamp down on some of these things and provides better services for for citizens so I think it was I'm done with the right intention. The execution of it was extremely questionable remains extremely controversial but the great story here is that now people have returned to this part of Mattera to the old caves and begun to build new businesses in them <hes> so you'll find bed-and-breakfasts gratuities militia find a cool bar awesome restaurant and it's really one of the most magical towns I've ever been to and sort of finally coming into its own southern Italy. Are there other spots one or two you ran across in your travels that most of his would never have heard of like mattera that we auto visit yeah. I think another one comes up for me is late share which is part of Julia. It's very famous for its limestone so the entire the city is beautiful soft smooth white limestone gorgeous old churches wonderful old structures and I think a a really exciting new food scene including a restaurant called Bros.. Which is run by a twenty four year olds chef who may be one of the most talented did cooks pound for pound in Italy so what about just mentioned a couple other chefs or or restaurants cafes that are really out of the ordinary sure for me one of the most I'll give have you couple more but what one of the most extraordinary experiences for me was was spending a lot of time in Sardinia and I had been talking to Massimo mature the famous chef from Auburn he had said you gotta go to to Sardinia and you've got to go see the a guy named Roberta Pitzer and Roberto pets was born and raised in Sardinia and has been there trying to fight for the food system for most of his career remarkable chef kind of operating very very excellent high quality restaurant the only Michelin Star in Sardinia in town of twenty five people basically there's two streets and there's this restaurant was the name of the restaurant? It's called samples sent to apple sent to and it's it's an old home and old pot. Ah used to be an old pasta warehouse there. That's been converted into this beautiful restaurant and more importantly that Roberto I think lives breeze the Sardinian culture and I think it's a part of Italian cuisine and travel that is so largely the ignored by both Italians and travelers like now some advice for tourists so include myself in this. What are some things that would really improve your experience? I mean one thing I'll start with honestly is getting out of those big tourist centres find two or three places that you didn't know anything about in go there staying aggravated as much you know there's Italian family run for bed and breakfast by law they have to be fifty percent of their revenue has to come directly from agricultural production so means they're making olive oil. They're making their own cheese their own charcuterie and that means that you're going to be right there to experience that so it's not just a really affordable sort of night due to eat well and good bed and breakfast in the morning but also in education in the local cuisine terroir and you're gonNa have a really intimate experience the more that you stay in these gratuities Mos- you spend a lot of time lot of mileage in Italy and I would guess there are were more than a few moments where you came across something. You didn't expect what was one of those moments yeah you're right. I mean there is there are a lot of those moments of wonderful thing about Italy team but I think the one is six out. The most for me is it's actually the last chapter in the book. It's about Lake Como an area that I had long sort of avoided because I just thought it was sort of you know glitz Glamour and George Clooney's and the upper-crust of the world ended up there sort of Um by serendipity and ended up in tiny little village next to Balaj called San Giovanni and everything was closed. There's one little restaurant that was open. There and we stumbled into this place restore. Aren't they mail and turned out to be a husband and wife off husband woke up every morning in did all the fishing along the lake shores in the afternoon. His wife prepared the food and it was just it was an amazing sort of change to the Italian cuisine that I was used to you know lake fish or the second class citizens ocean fish but prepared that same mentality of of local of extreme care of simple techniques of real respect for the ingredients and at the end you'd have fifteen or twenty different expressions of lay Komo's sort of aquaculture channeled through this one tiny lovely little family restaurant so shouldn't be telling everyone this because I want to be able to go back there and find a table but restore aren't they mail in San Giovanni and Lake Como really really magical physical slice of Italy well. I don't know whether to thank you for your book may ruin all these cray flex because they're all gonna get discovered now but I'm going to better go quickly before it's Matt. Thank you so much great book Pasta Pun Vino No. It's it's really remarkable. I work extraordinary. Thank you so much. Thanks Kris really appreciate it that was Matt Golding Author Pasta upon a Vino deep travels through Italy's food culture you can subscribe and listen to most radio anytime as podcast new shows available Friday and itunes stitcher tuning Google play spotify just subscribe and get all of our shows downloaded right to your right now my co-host Sara Molten. I be taking some of your calls. Sarah is the Star of course Sarah's weeknight meals on television also author of the Book Home Cooking One on one Sarah. Are you awake. Are you ready to go Chris. I'm ready to do this S. street WHO's calling my name is still Kennedy and I live in Victoria British Columbia Nice together. We did okay well. What's your question? The question is about Chili sauces else's. I've found that in many recipes that they will specify chili sauce and they'll say a few tablespoons or half a cup and there's many types of Chili sauces and I was hoping you could help me navigate the world of truly sausage well I if it just says chili sauce and it's a quantity more than teaspoons tablespoons probably is probably something benign benign like the Heintz. They're really three kinds. There's the aired sites Chili Sauce hines which has chilies. There's a hot sauce like Saracho or whatever and then there's a chili paste which is like nation like black bean chili paste chilly garlic paste. Those are very hot and their pace. They're not actually sauces right very small amounts of those I would look at the quantity if it says half a cup. It's not chilly Tabasco saying it's not Saracho yeah. It's got to be the hines yeah. How much does the recipe call for a couple times? If you put a half a cup of Saracho in their your Di Mico to chili sauce is actually from the joy of cooking and it's sort of onion and vinegar and sugar and tomato Chilean it right well. There's a little bit of Chili powder. Okay the term chilies is also very big now because like you say there are now so many types of Chili's Chili's mild like an Anaheim or something or Jalapenos not too hot then there's sort of the Sorrento's at of middle of road and then there's pub and Gyro or some of the really really hot ones so if you get a substitute I would just look it up online and see what other chillier the same same category. If you have an in Anaheim versus a Habanero yeah different worlds yeah of pain yeah <hes>. Do you ever remove the seeds from Chile to cool down a little bit. I've heard the heat is in the seat. It's it's in the ribs in the ribs and the seeds bill. That's absolutely a very good way to remove some of the heat but still interesting. We've learned I've learned last few years is the Chilis like Mahia when New Mexico chilies it is not so much the heated their fruity flavor they do chilies aren't just and so if you look at some recipes like Carney Nevada from Mexico you might use six or eight ounces of Chile's dried chilies but they're not that hot now. Now so some chilies have a wonderful fruity taste and a lot of cooking is not about the heat is about the flavor right and so I think those are really interesting chilies. I agree like a blonde for example which is so grassy and smokey not necessarily that add hot but wonderful flavor just a world of information when you start researching it yes then you go down the rabbit hole and you never come back. That's what's happened does any rate bill. Thank you question. Yes Take Care bye-bye but this is most your radio. I'm Christopher Kimball. If you have a cooking failure or complaint just give us a ring that number of course is eight five five four to six nine eight four three one more time a five five four to six <music> nine eight four three or citizen email questions and milk street radio DOT COM hi WHO's calling hi. My name is Brendan High Brandon where you calling from Fresno California Nice. How can we help you today? Well I cook a lot of beans refried beans and whatnot and <hes> I always see on the recipes or shows or whatever it says you know after you cook them you put them in the blender and then you re fry hi them in Lord and then it says he usually Oh if you wanna help your version go with vegetable oil or something else they got me thinking I started looking at the <hes> nutritional values on the package of my Lard and I was comparing it to butter and toil and everything else and it seemed like it was no less healthy I mean my reading that wrong or is there a difference in the types of at that you use that I'm just not seeing <hes> it's monounsaturated fats. It's natural which is good. It's not <hes> trans fat which has been turned into molecules that are very hard for the body to absorb properly which can create to seize. I think the point however is that large tastes great and refried beans the largest. There's nothing better so and you don't really consume assumed that much lard over the course of a year so I wouldn't worry about the health thing at all but I don't think it's any worse than butter. Are you using fresh lard. I mean do you make it yourself book. Well I get the farmer John Package stuff and then also have a Mexican market market near my own so sometimes get the rush stuff that they make one of the things I would just check is the label because some lard is hydrogenated. It's processed. Is it smooth and creamy. I think it does say hydrogenated. Don't want that I would use the fresh stuff you get from the farmer's market you can even make it yourself. You can buy from a butcher you know the fresh pork fat and render it down. Yes it is definitely healthier. Quote unquote than butter welcome to the millstreet hotline. How can we help you? Calories fat. Fat is fat but in terms of its profile yet is healthy say not if it's the hydrogen the issue is was processed agree with Sarah and you want the Lard Lee Florida around the kidney. That's the large you want and me. Matthew you get freshly Florida or you can buy from a place that does this melted down a very low. He a little bit of water with it a skim the top off and that's really to keep it in the fridge. It's all natural by the way makes the world's best pie dough. Yes very flaky. It's incredibly incredibly flaky and light. That's how they used to make it one hundred years ago so I I'm all in favor of large leaf. Lard especially short fresh rendered leave Florida. Yes here's the thing though that's just really crazy is if you wait long enough. All the stuff that was bad for you is now good for you. So you know Bhattarai. I believe is going to have a comeback think about red wine and chocolate all those things that were bad for you there. Now good for you so you know if we wait long enough. Maybe butter will be but I think the thing about largest go with the fresh stuff and it's a better choice than butter for now all right cool very good. Well I think as far as what you were saying I think everything in proportionate and you're going to be fine but beans. There's nothing better yeah I agree. Go for it all right very much. I appreciate your time pleasure. Boy refried beans and Lord is just like one of the best things. Maybe this the best thing. I've been searching my whole life for the best thing. Maybe you're just hungry. You know this is this is really sort of torture. This is why I don't read food magazines enlist. I've just had lunch except Mr now that would make me hungry as can be listening to milk street radio. I'm your host Christopher Kimball coming up next conversation with Liz alpern Jeffrey US koets authors of the filter manifesto. We'll be right back. This is most your radio. I'm Christopher Kimball today. I chat with Liz alpern. Jeffrey Oscar wits authors of the filter manifesto in two thousand twelve Alberton. JASA was launched the filter rea- a food venture that reimagined Ashkenazi Jewish cuisine their specialty is of course filter fish but not the kind you would find H._r.. This is artisanal fish made in Brooklyn. Listen Jeffrey. How are you doing great yeah doing very well? Thanks so you open Galleria in you've now written could fill to manifesto what is artisanal artisanal Gha filter fish anything not in jar or is this going back to to an old ancient way of doing it well. It's a it's a great question. I would say that artisanal could fill to fish is defined by a product that's being made with people's hands and with with craft and with top quality ingredients. I think that that's a really critical part of it. I like to say are chosen. Legal filter fish is filter fish that inspires and doesn't discussed <hes>. I like that nicely sleep hood so I read that filter means stuffed so so Gotha was with leftover scraps there were used primarily stuffing was that the original meaning of Gha filter fish so in Yiddish the filter fish means stuffed fish so what you would do is would traditionally remove all of the flesh from the fish and you'd grinded up and mix it with onions and breadcrumbs and spices and then you stop it back into the skins of the fish and it wasn't necessarily the scraps this was we like to say this is how you would really celebrate an elevate the holidays with with a full fish on the table and we always look took a filter vicious sort of the symbol of of just the resourcefulness of how far you can stretch one fish to feed a family so let's talk about Ashkenazi versus other Jewish culture and food. You're primarily talking about Ashkenazi food here. How do you define Ashkenazi in? How do you defy Ashkenazi food? So usually we say Ashkenazi refers to the culture and the foods of the Jews who spoke Yiddish so from central and eastern Europe Ashkenazis sort of medieval term for Germany and and then it's a lot of the Jews who lived in Germany and then moved eastward eastward to places like Poland and Hungary and Lithuania and parts of Russia and Belarus and and <hes> that vicinity and <hes> I'm and for a long time the Jewish world was separated by Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews Jews of Spanish origin and and who then spread out to North Africa and parts of the Middle East and now we sort of recognize them much more diverse Jewish community with Jews from Ethiopia and Jews from India and Jews from Yemen all other places but Ashkenazi Jews were perhaps the largest Jewish group for a long time and it's worth saying that in the United States the vast majority of Jews have an Ashkenazi background so most of the Jewish food that people in the United States are familiar with is Ashkenazi Jewish food so sephardic would be more because it's it's North Africa Southern Europe Spain that we have more spices and a very different style of cooking yeah yeah right now in the Jewish world. Sephardic cuisine is considered far sexier because it has all the you no it has it has a lot more spice. It has a lot more color and vibrancy than what is traditionally seen as Ashkenazi food. Do you feel that Jewish foods sort of has a bad rap and you're trying to reconfigure it and bring it back as sort sort of something new and exciting or do you think it's something that is hard to sell. I think that we both feel that it has a bad rap that it is misunderstood and what really guides US perhaps is the basis for the Manifesto Esto cookbook was released how investigate and explore what happened what went wrong. Why do people think that this food that has so much flavor that is I mean we've eaten Eastern Europe? Cook these dishes for years and we're just always blown away. Okay bye bye how flavorful these dishes are but yet how come our generation hackamore peers think that this food is bland and boring just monochromatic and how come they think that filter fish comes in a jar and lock goes coming up powder in a box so we <hes> we really sort of had a look back and see what happened in in America to make us think that Ashkenazi food was just so limited and so so so boring before we get the recipes. There are a lot of interesting facts. This book first of all Schmaltz isn't just chicken fat. I always thought Schmaltz also chicken fat but it's any kind of fat because fat any kind of animal poultry of Yeah Yeah I just think of the way you have olive oil. You have extra virgin you have sort of a virgin lighter olive oil you have sort of Goose Schmaltz. which is the top of the line conduct schmaltz would justify if you can't get to go with the duck and then chicken fats probably the the worst Schmaltz you can get but if it's the only schmaltzy got it's great sounds like a t-shirt go with a schmaltzy? You're with right so hungry. Hungry hungry had schmaltz jars in the turn of the twentieth century that could be padlocked. They sold them that way. Read that so I sort of interesting there Schmaltz I guess goose fat was so prized a friend of mine grew up in France and he actually actually travels with his his goose Schmaltz like if he comes to your house he brings his own goes fat <hes> so another thing I learn many things for your book sort of Dark Rye bread or dark bread was eating six days a week but on the Sabbath issued Holla Holla was a special bread for one day of the week is right. Yeah I think it's important to think about <hes> Jewish cuisine very much in the the weekday format and then the holiday format so there were two different modes of cooking. There was what you eight eight to sustain yourself. Maybe you were poor. Family didn't have so much so you were gonna eat the bread that would last the longest and give you the most nutrition and was probably the cheapest to make and then of course for for the Sabbath once a week you would really save up to make those special dishes those does that. We're a little bit more luxurious so bread is a perfect example of that so in the bialy versus Bagel War One of you maybe Liz. I'm not sure said something like bagels. Just a hyped up Jewish bread now. which have you said that that was me? He Yeah Okay now. You're in big trouble. So one of you please describe what a Bialy is in case. Someone listening doesn't know sure it's a it's it's quite a simple <hes> yeast dough bread very just flower or water salt yeast but then you actually top it with some onions and generally poppy seeds <hes> and what distinguishes a bialy from a bagels and a Bagel is boiled and then baked and a Bialy is not boiled so it's just just baked <hes> but it doesn't puff up like a role so it's kind of a flat bread but a Chewy doughy flat bread covered and onion poppy seed. I mean pretty great so why why are you not such a huge fan of the BAGEL typed up Jewish sprint okra. Don't get wrong. I Love I love Bagel so much I grew up in the New York area bagels essential for the mornings. It just feels like you know. bagels have just become sort of the Jewish food that made it right. It's the one that all around the world you can get Jewish baked bagels in the supermarkets but <hes> then is very hard to find you know you're lucky if you can find one or two bakeries even in Manhattan now that make a good bialy and and yet they were just. I just feel like they were. They never got the attention of the love that they deserved and I would say that that's for good reason season. I mean I love a Bialy but a a bialy is it's much less practical vessel for for toppings than a Bagel. I mean a Bagel make so much sense. It's it's it's so to grab and go bialy the toppings built in you don't need it's fallen the onions onions follow all over the place while one of the reasons why the Bagel made it so much further is that the Bagel has a hole in the middle and you you could put them on a rod and you could put them on your pushcart travel out and and sell your bagels more easily and but I appreciate how the Bialy you know the journey. Take and yet. I'm telling you anyone who who's had a good bialy. They just they have so much love for it. So is this what keeps you relationship going. Is that the bialy versus the big Joe for. We've a lot lot of debates based debates yeah but that's the thing this cuisine is just it's cuisine of lots of a dialogue. I mean everyone has different ideas for how you should eat certain foods or how to cook them. What one of the recipes you have is a quick farmers cheese which was really appealing appealing to me because the French have very the serve that for dessert all time? How do you make it just milken vinegar yeah? It's it's really milken an acid so you can use vinegar. We generally use vinegar but people also use lemon juice to get the same effect acne. Essentially you curdled milk. You separate the protein from the fat <hes> and then you strain it so it's really one of the simple recipes and we cook that a lot with folks. WanNa learn about Ashkenazi food because we that's really one of the staples. That's one of the pantry staples it's sort of the Ashkenazi cooking one. Oh one so Ashkenazi cooking what a one Gimme two or three other espy's that would be in that course well for me. Pickles explain so much about Ashkenazi cooking partly because that's really helps understand the seasons and so <hes> when you have a short window in the summertime when cucumbers are available and Kirby pickler cucumbers are available you mixed with <hes> you know deal and so much garlic and salt and some spices and then you're going to naturally ferment them so they're gonna sit and you're going to let them sit on your counter for about a week and then after week you can have these perfectly sour pickles and and those pickles first of all going to help you digest if you're eat them with astronomy sandwich at the Deli a good Jewish pickle helps your body work with all that fatty meat and <hes> and secondly you have all this pickle Brian to us when you're done with the pickles and you can use that to hydrate the dough inbred you can use that we make salad dressings to have some fun with it and you can even make some cocktails tails and there's a resourcefulness at the heart of this tradition and I think pickles just reveal it. I'm GonNa Miss Pronounce it but what is a collant pot Chilin but that really really really appealed to it could just describe what it is so challenge is a STU. It's a slow cooked STU and traditionally or if you are a religious Jew now you would you are not cook on the Sabbath so Friday sundown to Saturday Saturday Sunday and you don't actually cook <hes> that's prohibited however <hes> you are encouraged or maybe even obligated to eat a hot meal on Saturday. So what do you do if you need to eat hot meal on Saturday but you can't cook well well you you slow cook something starting Friday before sundown and so in traditional Jewish communities <hes> families would have a choice lint pot. They would have a specific pot that was there's they would throw in whatever they could. It might be potatoes. Beans ends meet a little bit of water some vegetables and they would bring it to the the the bakery the town bakery and the town bakery would have extinguished. It's oven but the pot the talent pots would actually sit in any oven and slow cooked to the dying members of the Baker's oven <hes> from Friday sundown until Saturday afternoon and so when a family would be coming home from you know from from Sabbath services in the morning they would come they would stop up by a pickup their challenge pot and they would have a hot meal on Saturday and it was it was their pot it was be handed down from generation to generation and of course it was a really dramatic and I would say important part of the rhythm of of of Jewish is life in Eastern Europe having that pot and sort of revealing this hot meal on a Saturday so we actually shooting this book and taking the photos for this book ended up in a home unbeknownst to us at had an old beautiful talent pot and <hes> and it was such it's an honor to be able to use something <hes> like that because today most people just use a crock pot when you think back and look at the culinary rules and regulations in Ashkenazi cooking. Can you always understand how it got started as it made sense mindset particular place in time or some of those rules you just can't figure out where they came from initially. That's a really good question and I think there are some rules that you can understand you can see the anthropological reason for them and there are I'd say majority of the rules that don't really make that much science and they're not supposed to a lot of the idea is this idea in Jewish law certain things that you just sort of take as as law because it says so and some that we believe they come from a place of reason some kind of way and one of the things that we take for ourselves and we're cooking especially for cooking with <hes> with with those restrictions in mind is we like to think of these are the limitations to work with <hes>. It's sometimes makes it more more exciting to figure out how you find certain flavors when you when you don't have access to to pork for example so the said the Jews in Europe often used goose and they would cure goose meat and they that was sort of the bird of choice because it had so much flavor and and of course it had so much fat to make Schmaltz and <hes> and so that's why Jews were often associated with four-grand that's why they were associated with goose production that was one of the ways that Jews would ensure to Ha- they can have a flavorful flavorful <hes> sh- about dinners and Hanukkah meals while some of the great cuisines of the world are all about what they did not have available versus what they did so if you guys have to cook during the week quickly what what would you take from your book. What would you take from your experience your culture to create a mid week supper fairly quickly? How would you do that well? I think that you know in the essence of mid week cooking. What do you have around so what's in in your fridge? When you come home right so one of the things that I always have in my fridge Sauerkraut that I've made or other pickled items I would also probably always have some sort of <hes> you know root vegetables for example as long as they're in season so we have in our book a few recipes that are meant to kind of increase you to think Ashkenazi during the week so we have a simple roasted chicken over barley? It's it's easy. It does not take a very long time to make it all on barley is Super Ashkenazi grains and we mix that with some mushrooms uh-huh road and a sheet pan and through the chicken on top so that the juices from the chicken drip onto the barley. That's a that's a sheet Pan Supper. That's super easy and these are fundamentally Ashkenazi ingredients and it doesn't take long so I love that we've a similar dish with potatoes rose and fish <hes> really easy you know Pan Fried fish over a over. Some herb mashed potatoes essentially but again we're using the flavors the the the flavors that that reference our culture thank you so much less alpern Jeffrey free US quits I mean <hes> Gonville to manifestos wonderful histories great <hes> the food's Great <hes> really a pleasure to have you on the program. Thank you Chris. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be here. That was lose. alpern Jeffrey Oscar wits the book is the Filter Manifesto New recipes for old world to foods just when you think you know something about the Jewish cooking it turns out you actually know little New York's black and white cookies are nodding Jewish tradition chicken. Fat is actually the worst type of schmaltz duck in Goose Schmaltz are superior. Some Jewish breads are actually made with pickle brine and my favorite bit of Trivia. The really is a town called the stock. The likely inspiration for zero mastel character in Mel Brooks movie The producers the next thing I know I'll discover the bagels are really from Poland and not New York well. That's true to right now. I'm heading into the kitchen and milk street the chat with Catherine Smart about this week's recipe Taiwanese grilled core Katherine Ariel and fine thanks are you. I was in Taipei Taiwan few months ago and I went to rally night market. I got off the plane went to the hotel and then immediately went to the market the head to be at least one hundred food stalls there and one of them was a rotisserie corn now each individual years rotating over the fire and we find out later they used a combination of large as a base and a lot of fermented sauces the unique to Taiwan but he had a great in color in a terrific outer coating and a lot of flavor so we brought that back to mow street and we don't have richest recourse and we don't have some of those fermented pace like shrimp paste they use so your job is to figure out how to translate as recipes we liked. You may not really easy for us. Chris find food made on equipment we don't have you can't find me but hey we figured it out for the most part but we ended up with was something really delicious that had those same flavor profiles same kind of texture and smokiness openness but without the rotisserie without the exact sauce so what we did was instead of using the Rotisserie we just used a backyard grill and you can use charcoal or you can use gas. The key is we're going to cook the corn in the husks so rather rather than based at Wallet Cooks we based at towards the end to prevent that based from burning so this is over a high heat or is this a medium yes Chris. It's high heat the whole time you have the corn directly over the coals or over the flame once it's cool enough to handle you husk it. You put it back on the grill and that's when we base it so Chris. We didn't have those dried shrimp that you talked about. Of course we decided not to use Lard but we were able to make a really flavorful sauce with similar can flavor profile using oyster sauce and rice vinegar was sure and then also go to Jiang which is fermented Chili Paste from Korea and even though it's a fermented chili paste. It's not particularly hot. It's more sweet and salty with just a little bit of heat. And what are you going to say. All the listeners just said go through Chang what they've never heard of the before and they don't think they can get it. I will say go to your local grocer. Of course you can always order this online but you'd be surprised go to Jiang is everywhere now. We're seeing it in all kinds of grocery stores. It really is the next Russia you can buy go-to Chang potato chips you can so it's on everything. Is that a desert topping yet but it's on everything else so you base it and just cook it a few minutes to finish that's right Chris so it's only gonNA take another five to seven minutes and then he transferred to a platter and then to dress it up a little bit we did add some fresh gendreau in sesame seeds not something they do by the way Taipei but I think it adds a little bit of flair to it Catherine. Thank you very much. Taiwanese grill corn brought home from Taipei. You can do it on your backyard grill. Thanks thanks Chris. You can find this recipe and all recipes at one seven seven seven milk street dot com. I'm Christopher Kimball and you're listening to milk street radio coming up mortar culinary questions dilemmas. Oh my co-host Serra Molten. We'll be right back <music>. This is most your radio. I'm Christopher Kimble now. It's time to answer some of your questions Sarah Ready. I am so ready Chris Welcome most street. Who's Gone Hi yes? My name is Alexandra Sandra. How are you good how are you? I'm pretty good. How can we help you? I love cooking with Steph Ron and it took a lot of you know the regular things for noto chicken south on I like to experiment but Stefan sort of expensive though they could try new things with garlic or any other spice but I'm going to be a little bit more careful with because expensive so I had some eggs France. Oh just toss it in their somehow. I'll figure it out and then I realized I usually use recipe of course when I cook with Saffron and I thought well I guess they should just throw it in but usually I steep it and then I realized you know I don't know how to sort of improvise fraud and they want you 'cause they don't WanNa waste it news. It's expensive so of course I google and and came across some conflicting information and then I thought let me just find out the best way to use it. Do I always need to infuse it so they always let it steep and a liquid before using it. It doesn't seem like I can just throw it into eggs but I wasn't wouldn't sure well we were just in Milan. I wasn't my editor was doing a rosado recipe which they do of course with Safran and they did soak it in liquid and that added to the Zado so that's how they do it my food editor Mac. Card Grind Safran salt or sugar a little spice grander and he finds that works as well to without steeping at first. I mean if you're doing a super STU. We put it in because it's going to be cooking for awhile any. If you have a situation where we're not having long cooking you WanNa make sure it's evenly dispersed. That's how it's done. Traditionally this war my impression was you know in the Middle East and in Spain where they use it a lot is that they absolutely do steep it. Also the longer you steep it. The more you're going to get out of it but you know in the case of your eggs as can benefit from a little liquid anyway your scrambled eggs so saffron is water soluble so you could just take a tablespoon of water so put a pinch of saffron in there and let it Steve for twenty he minutes to go ahead. Make your exit just add the water right okay and I did think about that and I was being a little bit on the leave. Well who wants to wait twenty minutes before you can you can even twenty minutes to make your egg the very least that I would soak it. You know it's better if you can soak it longer. I don't think pinch would work there. I would be lazy. I would take a picture stefan is scrambled eggs yeah eggs of the suffering and let it sit in the eggs yeah before you cook. Okay Okay Fair enough but let let them sit for twenty minutes before you cook them five twenty. I'm hungry. You are hungry. No you have to let it steep for Weller and actually a warm temperatures better for steeping right so maybe just as long as I can stand before my hunger yeah water trained because there are rules no details details. It's all it's all those little things yeah Renton suggestions online. We're folks. You're talking about keeping it in some oil and I thought people use trump oil. I don't think it releases its flavor. Oil needs to be in liquid. Oh that's great and I I'm going to try with the salt sugar too I am I. Maybe I'll give it a try. Okay thanks for calling thank you. Thank you so much. Pleasure Leisure Care you listening to most J. Radio. I'm Christopher Kimball. Call US anytime with your questions at eight five five four to six nine eight four three. That's eight five five four to six nine eight four three or email us at questions canal street radio DOT COM welcome milk street. WHO's calling Ali? I live in Salt Lake City. I had a question about leftovers. I know they're a your claim to be the leftovers queen so this is true they will not the left over Queen Wean leftovers that s in there so I work from home. My husband works in an office and I like cooking but I only like cooking like twice a week. So leftovers over in theory are ideal for keeping lunches ready for the week but I also hate leftover and I was kind of hoping for some tips for remaking leftovers or kind of making making them feel less leftover. Yes I think the best thing to do is to cook a big five pound pork roast something like that where it's cooked along time it breaks down so then you have this really soft tender braised meat then you can make a Taco you can make a Burrito you can use it rice because soup and you can add fresh ingredients chopped tomatoes onions. Put it in your Salsa Tacos Kado so is just a little bit of protein gene and you can have refried beans. You can take out of a Canon just put them in a skillet and fix them up a little so just as a base. I think belong braised meat. He's a really good basis. You do anything with it. Yeah I agree. I mean roast chicken rotisserie chicken or roast chicken that you've cooked it. Yourself are any chicken shred up and do all the same things at Christie's mentioned so that works to pork tenderloin goes beautifully and salads and soup you can throw anything into soup and make it more exciting. Canned beans are really great puree of a few of them and throw also leftover vegetables slice up your pork tenderloin but I think Christmas right you know that shredded stuff just goes anywhere or tortillas. You can make a Tortilla pizza or also have a bowl you can news <music> bulger you can use rice any other grain and just put the leftover meet in some other toppings on top of it Caso fresco on top some fresh herbs little spice on top. Are you could make a me so sauce or you could put a fried egg on top yeah well. I've been doing like I cook chicken in a particular way with succeed or so cooked or whatever and then we do those things put him in Tacos. Put Him on salad but I'm finding that my vegetables that I'm cooking Broccoli and asparagus and things like that tend to get Kinda smelly after a day or two just wondering if there are any tricks for things like put on the vegetables or tips for cooking them so that they don't get quite so soggy your weepy or growth well when you talk about Broccoli. It's a Christopher just it's like cauliflower and cabbage. They just are funky. I would throw him in soup. No here's the answer don't e- Dale cooked vegetables grains last protein less also the other thing is should do is fermented sauces soy sauce or it's just us fish sauce pomegranate Malaya's and a few spice mixes Togashi Sitar all those things core salt at the end just build a greener rice the protein and then something fresh on top beans rice they they lost character said Yeah. I think that's a good plan. It's just a matter of having a fourth 'cause usually I think about cooking repertoire and half before I have to actually start cooking so the slow cooking stuff is something I that requires a little more forethought on Yep Ali. Thank you so much. Hopefully that will help a little tight. Thanks Holly. This is radio. I'm Christopher Kimball right now. It's time for this week's Milk Street basic. Most most of us are pepper grinder with black pepper corns but the French no a great trick they add a few whole all spice berries two or three berries per tablespoon of black pepper corns adds complexity in also pumps up the pepper coins flavor without calling attention to itself. You can find out more and most radio DOT COM next up in Pasha and tells us about his latest trip Dan R._E._O.. I'm doing well Chris. I spent some time at the Library of Congress and you were researching something I would assume yet and it turns out. The one of one of my favorite food stories that we've covered recently on this podcast is at the Library of Congress which as you may know is the biggest library in the world. It has five hundred thousand food books alone so it's an extraordinary facility with an extraordinary group of Librarians. You can imagine any any any library with eight hundred thirty eight miles of books needs a lot of librarians. How many libraries do they have a lot? I said a lot number. We ran at a time before put together all the facts and figures okay so you. What were you researching in culinary point of view well back in one thousand nine hundred forty nine a group of Librarians at the Library of Congress came together to form the library of Congress cooking club and and remember at the Library of Congress because it is such an extraordinary group of not only books and and artifacts in manuscript any script but people you have these branch of specialties and experience from all over the world you have librarians who specialize in every region religion culture every time period in history and so many of them Maar experts in the foods associated with those different areas of expertise and all of these librarians have been coming together for decades to cook for each other share recipes from their different areas of expertise to learn from each other and here's the thing in in the seventies and eighties this library of Congress could close a huge phenomenon they hit a golden spoon that was passed from one president to the next and there were elections and there were hundreds of members and a huge holiday party but as a certain generation of librarian started to retire the Library of Congress? I couldn't club fell on hard times. It was nobody stepping up to fill the void except to women Chris Laverne and Shirley come on not kidding you laverne page and surely Lou who have a combined total of nearly a hundred years of experience at the Library of Congress. That's great who had been active in the cooking club had kind of drifted away but when the cooking club was on the verge of disintegration they came out of cooking club retirement and took over again for their second and third third stints as presidents of the cooking club and they have revitalized. It sounds great so so how does it work. Is this a monthly dinner. Well they get together. They have a talk. It's usually at lunchtime and they'll be something about foraging foraging one one month or they'll be something about kosher law another month back in the day. Laverne told me they did whole festivals that were attributed things like the Harlem Renaissance They'd be this Harlem Renaissance themed cooking event and they would dress up in in in attire but the passion that they have to learn about each other's cultures. I found really inspiring. Frankly what's great so so how many people are members today well they at its low point it was down to less than fifty and and now they're back over one hundred and it's going strong and they just there was a hiring freeze in place in the Library of Congress for many years because of budget cuts and that was just lifted <hes> towards the end of the Obama Administration and new librarians came in and they have taken a leadership role in the cooking club and so good news because it's it's going to carry on the traditional will carry on. I know what's coming next. You know what's coming next public television the library of Congress cooking club show now. That's a show I'd WanNa see come on that. Literally has public television written all over the be great well. They dress up their experts in their field. It actually has lots of historical information obviously great and the cookbook of course comes out of that as well so did you actually attend. What are these meals I did? I went to one of their big. Get togethers which was was a lot of fun and I told some librarian jokes along the way like like what like did you hear about the librarian who slipped lipped on the floor. No I didn't she was in the non friction section. Boy You apologize after your talk or before it's all I wanNA know needless to say Chris. I was a big hit of the cooking club luncheon Dan. That's what we love Abadgiev. Dan Patch thank you it turns out. The Library of Congress has a cooking club and maybe the P._B._S.. Show is coming soon to a station near you if one may make that show happen. You're the man I'm sure we'll be getting the call thanks to take it easy. That was Dan Passion of the sport full podcast this week Mac Goulding spoke about where to go in Italy to find simple authentic Italian food two thousand years ago Italy was based on the notion of family honor and frugality laws were actually passed mandating consumption of rustic healthy foods but of course is rooms wealth increase of the culinary arts chefs became celebrities peacocks road menu rich Romans built large freshwater ponds for their prized fish trees were era gaming with vintage wines but today Italy is back to basics for the most part the food a simple and reached in other words. Italy's Tila spouses basic Roman virtues. That's it for this. We show if you tune in too late. You can listen to our podcast. I tune stitcher tuning Google play or spotify. Please remember to subscribe to the show you'll automatically get every single show downloaded to your phone tablet each week. 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A Second Wedding in Wyoming, Royal Renovations, and Beach Read Recommendations | Jam Session

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A Second Wedding in Wyoming, Royal Renovations, and Beach Read Recommendations | Jam Session

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We also would like to talk about George Clooney's and Barack Obama's vacation in abroad, and yield Europe. It's like celebrity lake yachts. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know whether it's really there's a boat. There's a boat involved, seafaring, water fairing. And then the hills is back briefly discuss that and lastly mostly forward to this. We're gonna talk about some of our summer reads. We are indeed. I'm pretty excited. Let's begin with Carly Kloss Josh Kushner's affair, like, in terms of party, a share a fat in Wyoming. Yes, we're all the. Cool kids, go to party. So back in February, or March was it is apparently in October two thousand as NATO. Yes, they were married in October. Holy shit day. That's appalling. Wow. I feel really shook by that news. Okay. It's not your fault because one would assume that if we're going to have a second celebration for your wedding. You do it within. I don't know three four five months like it's been. It's been basically a calendar year. So some crucial in feather purse wedding was like an upstate New York outside of the city. This second affair was in Wyoming, which is really difficult to get to it. I suppose say, I'm categorizing, both of these as destination weddings. Sure, I'm categorizing them as destination obligation events. I think you can only have one wedding. I'm just going to put that out there. I will give like a special dispensation to the civil ceremony and the party in Europe or whatever. But basically, you, you have one winning you. You've just got one. Yeah. Whose Instagram brought this year tension? No instagram. I because I feel like I've done a great job of creating the nonsense in my Instagram. I feel like Derek blasberg is the original offender here. Uh-huh. And isn't many ways, like the original offender to I'm negative on this, in case you can't tell for a couple reasons, Derek blasberg is I will try she sort of I think someone put it best that he's like the Truman Capote of our generation except she doesn't. Right. And so there's that, that I thought that was gonna he is kind of like a media figure that has a fixed himself. He started kind of in the fashion world, and then has become like, quote, best friends with a lot of celebrities. And he is always. Been closely associated with Carly class. He's super Gawker two thousand six to me. He's the kind of person that like when media Bjork media gossip was first popular on the internet. He was like a key figure. Yes. And because I think that's also where the center of power was at that time or the center of rich people power, sorry, very different from the center of our. And he is then, like migrated to Instagram. And his interim is now just like a ridiculous namedrop e but, like photo Joppy version of celebrities, and he kinda acts as a connector as best I can tell I looked he doesn't even work for. I think he works for YouTube thing. That's correct. Yes. Which is like one of those things where I think he was like hired so that YouTube can say that they're associated share some elite lines in his book, Kapiti page. Yes. Including during college went down. You Derek blasberg worked the model agency. Elite model management writing bios for the models. So that's kind of his that's his first entree into the model world of which Carly class. Still very much part of. Yeah. He seems to me kind of, like, I think there's a younger character based on him the guy that they go to their gossip, I like kind of like similar Sudanic blasberg time. Yeah, I was going to compare them to like all of the NBA assistance like the climates the guy, there's a famous person and then a guy who's just kinda in their in their wake being like the board room or whatever. And that seems he just of attached to everyone. And he really always he has been the most closely attached car class, I believe they're both from Saint Louis Missouri or something there. And she is definitely coasted on her fame for a long time. So in this case, I guess that he would it's not surprising that he was there. And it's not surprising that he was at Ceram think everybody else who's there? It's maybe not surprising. But I think less of them for going they came to my attention. L. Cohn bronze? Yes. Graham at tracker very closely, as you know, and I saw the same photos being posted over and over again. It's sort of, like, I'm curious, what the approval process was like, was sort of like a blanket. You can show yourselves and like X people in the state of homing, but no other specifics because most of the specifics have come from Carl classes, Instagram, ourself. Yes, I assumed that there was like a top down guidelines for what you can share. And when you can share it, and I am sure that one of them includes that you may not include Vonk Trump and Jared Kushner, inner photograph their zero photos, except for the ones that they post to Instagram themselves. Right. But they are very consciously eliminated from all other photographs at cross all other social media, I was really hoping that they hadn't been invited. Yeah. It seems like they were Jared Kushner space is just the most one of those punishable faces I've ever seen. It's. But I think what's interesting, everyone who else who's there, Katy Perry, Orlando bloom, a Wilk fest to Katie, like Mila Kunis, Ashton, kosher, Derek blasberg who's not really politically inclined, but a lot of people who have spoken out politically, and who are aligned with having some sort of social image were also there with Jared Kushner in vodka Trump. And I understand it's like you go to your friend's wedding, and I understand, like rich people don't really care behind the scenes, but it's a real illustration that rich people like don't really care in the seats. Agreed. Yeah. They're just sort of like, and it's not a great luck. Rich, stay rich. Yeah. It's, it's tough. I mean, I guess the counter that tha that is like the sort of centrist. Well, I reach across the aisle. I've got friends in both sides. But I don't feel that way in this in this polar as it's a tough time like this wedding was happening while the headlines about the, the children's camp you have happening the same weekend like no it's fine. They can be brothers. Like I've really just I. Think less of this whole situation. I completely agree with you. It's tough pill to swallow, what's the most surprising guest attendee to you, Wendy, dang. Oh, yeah. It's actually not surprising because she in Vancouver were close friends. I am surprised that Wendy, dang is still hanging on at somehow has been transferred still gets to be friends with Carly class. Very strange. Yeah. Very strange. I was on surprised by meal, kunas, national Kutcher another in this gang I guess, Ashton Kutcher, like the, the mister pop shifts. And, and Josh Kushner, our friends, I suppose, I guess business, you know who else, surprising, Princess Beatrice, super surprising. Yeah. What do you think that connection is probably New York? Right. Because that's where she lives. I think it's Michinoku, who was also there show. Also, who is the issue show, British. Yes, is, she's sort of the British, Dirk glassberg kinda. But she has her own fashion line. If you follow it. No, because she's constantly modelling. Her clothes, right? But it's chicken read did the fashioned line come before all of her fancy friends, or did the fashion line become because of her fancy friends. The best thing that ever happened to me. No news, the wedding, Harry and Meghan. She goes front and center for all those pictures now in our talking about her because we know who she is. I forgot me she was there. That's kind of like the scooter also I mean, to me, it's like the scooter Braun. Yeah. Mike Hass, of course, that kind of they're like, overlapping spheres of influence Alexia that cultivates ultimate influence platform, to like let you know, they're gang right of people who on each other's yachts, and then Mary other and also apparently start business lines, Wyoming tough. I would I would do you have to use in Wyoming, is it really necessary? Also probably was cold, like if I'm taking a trip in June. I don't want it to be called. I mean I agree with you completely, as you know, also there's just in June. I needs to be swimming, I suppose there's a lake or something there. But it's not really swimming weather. I guess the one thing for it is that it is, you can control paparazzi and show it like you can actually close often, Wyoming, Montana cetera. What did you think of Carly classes party dress with off the shoulder kind of I don't know? To me, it looks like a bed skirt refashioned. Address but to curious what you think about it. I think it's fine. I mean she can literally wear tablecloth and make it look. That's her job, and I suppose it's quote in fashion right now. The group pictures are all pretty lame because everyone is, you know, taking the prairie theme quite literally and also like pray dresses, have been sort of in fashion for a while. But they all just look like they're wearing, you know, more expensive reformation dresses together and their hair's all the same. It's really it's tough when it's a large party. And everyone is all looks exactly the same. It's like dress the same way it's sort of self-incriminating how I felt about it also. Ellie Goulding being there. I guess that's another mission. No new sort of brain connection. Yeah, it's weird. And then Katy Perry and LA Golding, but no Taylor swift. Yeah, that's interesting. I guess that's just not. That's just over that seems fine. I just really wonder what it what it was. We'll never know. Even we will. No probably not because they are both so adapted controlling their while Carly classes quite adept at putting image into the world. I think Taylor swift is less and less adept at that. But she's not forthcoming, so no, she certainly certainly not while we're on the topic of Princess Beatrice in LA, Golding Golding to British people. Let's talk about this horror that's occurred for the British taxpayer, Meghan, Markle, and Harry Prince Harry of England. Sorry, the Duke of Sussex. They moved out of Kensington Palace two more cottage, which is in Windsor for more space. But also, it's alleged that there's been a rift between Harry and will, and as a result, the renovation of college cost three million dollars three million pounds. Sorry, even more dollars if our British had pest would you? Yeah. I mean, this is kind of a literal is Asian of the arrangement. Existed for a very long time. Sure. And they act as ambassadors and you know, bring in tourism, and all of that stuff, even the people who are criticizing this, or like the Royal family does pay for itself. But it is it is jarring when the costs and what they actually get away with its our five renovation. I mean I agree with you and the point that's critics are making like they could have just moved into an apartment was that was ready because the renovation it's Larry, they just had to make a new house. Yeah. Like litter, they were five individual houses, and they had to put in, you know, new roof new floors, bedrooms, bathrooms and kitchen and I'm like, okay, what else is left? That's it. That's the whole house. So, yeah, they did just get a brand new house off the taxpayer. I, I mean it's really it's really screwed up. This is the whole concept of the real is pretty screwed up. When you think about it like this, I know it is kind of, it's their job to believe. In the public eye, and as an then they get free houses as a result. It's really weird. Yeah. Really makes sense. I was thinking about this. It's just when the Queen you know, who is lovely or whatever dies, can you in? Good conscience. Imagine twenty twenty five being like sure will crown new king of England. Like what it's so strange. It really is so weird. And this is like this is what's so strange about it is just like her to do what king of what why? Right. And then what is the purpose of it? And why do we need to pay for your like floating floor on the kitchen? Do you know what that is, by the way? No, I don't I don't either. They everyone seems very mad about the floating floor that they installed in cottage. And I'm not really sure what it is. I guess a floor above another floor because the old floor is two older something if you understand what this is please, let me know, interesting apparently per competed, or first installation method doesn't mean to nailed or glued down, which they were doing that here at our office, where there's ramp. And construction happening. Yeah, just a lot of lobs for Meghan. It's not I feel bad for her. The other thing is last week. There was a foundation that the Fab Four started together last year. And it's like a ready kaput. That was very strange Jerry just let it with her. Plenty of people have like shell foundations that nothing what are they needed to, like, formally close? Bad planning. I'm blaming the flunkeys for that. I agree. You should be able to manage this better. I completely and also just not make announcements about it. Yeah. Five million dollar renovation though, gotta have high tastes. Exactly. He's gotta respect. Did you see this? Apparently she hired this so ho- how the so ho- farmhouse designer Vicky Charles assured did. I mean sounds great. I was loved to take a tour of cottage, too. I mean, I guess there will be on display. But one day, it will be do you think so? Yeah. I think maybe they'll do photographs at some point. Yeah. Remember the plan to shut them off to Africa. They're like they're going to three or tour of Africa after the baby is born so offensive, maybe maybe. That offense. It's happened. They'll be an opportunity to show us photos, who's to say that would be great. Are you ready to move on? Yes. We're gonna talk about George Clooney and Barack Obama's plumbing disaster. But first, let's talk about Matt cosmetics. Mac powder? Lipstick is the moisture Matt lipstick of your dreams. It's Matt reinvented. Max new Matt formula feels weightless instantly. Hydrates doesn't dry out your lips. It was originally developed at the backstage trend for a soft matte. 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Every summer and sometimes more often towards Clini go Staley and this year, he was joined by the one and only Barack Oba. Yes. So the buys kinda did it a Mediterranean, swank, God bless them. So many people are doing Mediterranean, swing right now. It's true making my head explode, I'm so jealous. I am as well, especially since it's still not summer in Los Angeles. I would like my money back care, and I would like my money back. It does suck. I weigh the Obamas. You know, as befits to people who were president, first lady, the United States, while have been. They were in the south of France. They had launched with bottle, and then they moved onto, like KOMO. They went north. They moved away from the Mediterranean to a lake but there is still a boating experience, and we're hanging out, George Clooney, and Amal Clini, and then, well, I suppose we should say the drama that happened before I believe they went to Italy. Also. Tend to George Clooney event, which was the Clooney foundation for Justice. Before they arrived. There apparently was a plumbing issue. And this is from the Daily Beast via Corriere della Serra. When heater Clooney household things out of hand and this woman pool was half full the water was like ice. Clooney hit asses bodyguard Giovanni to call this guy, Dante who spoke the newspaper and he said, I arrived, and they're all upset you find says to me hurry up hurry up. And then he had to get to work immediately. He was able to sort out the bomber and fixed the drain, but it was a near disaster. Right. But then he is sorted out the pool. And then clearly came out in a quote, sweaty cost me goes t-shirt to take a selfie, but the plumber sue this plumbers having a great time. Great, can you call pool technician of a plumber? Is that what I guess, in Italy, you know, this wonderful question, you know, you are an expert for all drains. This would be I know everyone's being like this is so silly, but it would be disaster. If you go all the way to Italy for vacation in the summer and you can't wall. Vacation take special time. You want things to be right. This George Clooney have the best life of any living human. It's pretty good like whose life would be better. He gets to do ever projects. He wants doesn't seem to care that no one ever likes them. Watches them to. No, I have not. He seems like he has a wonderful wife who's, like a substantive lovely woman. They've got kids that homes in London. Late coamo California, New York. Like they just they hang out the Obamas. He's a billionaire. He has so much money that he gives his friends duffle bags full of cash. And he was on our as one of the hottest TV doctor time question. Sure. I think all that's true. So why does she still do commercials to keep that money coming in to keep Alexander Ella? Flush with cash for the forcing you doesn't didn't get honestly five hundred million dollars from Cosmas. Yeah. Literally. Yes. So I can't you best that is aren't aren't returns on that. I know people are like I've got enough. I'm done here. I don't think it's that I guess, that's how you stay rich. My question is just why the spread so commercials. Specifically. I don't know. They don't even air here. So they do they do. Recent ports event and it was a new one and has like this is still happening. Nestle just owned so many things. Now it's crazy. They own part bluebottle, they just, it's, it's a while anyway, to Jewish in the pool is fixed shot out to the pool. Technicians lash plumber. I'm glad he got his selfie. And frankly, I'm glad that there was not ruined. I think that if you're going on vacation, you deserve to have a go while I don't want anyone to have negative vacation even the Obamas or the clueless. I'm just so joust everyone who's just hanging out in Europe and the Mediterranean, only thing that I've been telling myself to feel better about the fact that I don't have plans to go to the Mediterranean. This number is that it's really crowded right now. And that could be a negative. It is true like in let's be honest. Not a lot of beach space, just realistically. That's very true. It's gonna be summer here are summer goes on October. Yeah. All we find myself right now. Is that all the people on vacation right now? Are they have children? Yeah. And so it's like school's out. And so you have to go on vacation. Exhausting baking kids. Yes. Son vacation, so we're it might not eat enjoying August, when they are like the kids are back at school because school starts in the middle of August, which is just cruel. That's Justice for kids. We are cutting. We've got here yet, then, you know, we'll have a nice time, and there will be more space than the beach. You're right. A pay good note. Next the hills back returned. I was extremely dismayed to find out. It was one hour long episode. I presume alert that. Oh my God. Amanda, it's, it's long. So I tried watching it. And I turned it off. I like what was the moment what you're like, okay? Now not right now. I honestly just the beginning three minutes trailer. Yes, this is uncomfortable. Original hills first of all two thousand six ish. So it was different a different era of reality TV. We were less jaded, but technical part of the appeal it was a trifle. It was so frivolous in silly, and fun in like. Yet, Lauren just as like just, you know, crying with mascara running down, her face it, just the ultimate Jackson vision of high melodrama, and like low commitment, or you know, they actually go together, I suppose, and it was a great, great delightful show that influenced the whole generation of people how about Los Angeles. I think this show is a Downer incredibly depressing. It's so depressing that Heidi and Spencer, the most likely people on it early the least, like bummer. They're like we love each other guy. Other. That's good. Adriana is going through a terrible divorce. And she just, like, I think a lot of people on this feeling. So this is my life at thirty three. This is not what I imagined Brody is married, and obviously not thrilled with Mary life. Stephanie Pratt has a new face Michel Barton is like I don't know out of the wilderness. Yeah. Franko got it was probably like, maybe the most successful of the group of like Brody Jenner, perhaps because he has like several. Club, essentially, you went from like club promoter to like club, partial owner, it just seems like such a Downer. It's crazy. Yeah. So it's a bit like you know how like the people who are the kings and queens of high school, like you worry about them like you peak in high school, then the rest of life is. I mean, just mathematically, if you peak at seventeen than things are not going to go as well for the rest of your life, and it has that vibe for sure. And also like your thirties. Our realtor them you're twenty gas, but it is like a lot of people who peaked early and in unusual ways. It doesn't just like impossible to have birdie, John. Oh, by the way, new person on the show is Tommy Lee, and Pamela Anderson, son. Okay. His name is Brandon Lee. I didn't know who he was. And then Pamela Anderson psalms up, so just, just f way. Oh, gosh. Shows, okay. But like Brody doesn't sit down talking to the camera where he's like oh, yeah. And then my dad came out and now as Caitlyn and. That just can't be a sidebar that can't be a sideline. It's pretty bizarre. It's also just like Brody is entangled in, like the biggest celebrity family, probably since the Kennedys, maybe even bigger like just in terms of global reach as a result of social media. And it's like so we are just having a vestige of that, but it's not really going to be addressed in, frankly, the shows boring and depressing. None of these people are actually friends. It's super stage. The cliffhanger is that they're having at the end of the episode is at Frankie is throwing a welcome home party. Stephanie Pratt who moved to London where she's famous for being a big brother like a million times. And it's like how are spending high gonna deal Stephanie being back? And then they pretend like Stephanie and Michel Barton, like, really close friends from back when they were like doing clubbing together in their twenties. The other like really raw moment is Stephanie says to me show Barton, that she was arrested because she overdose while shoplifting. And Michel has like which came first the overdoses living incessantly I don't know. And it's just really it's very dark. These people's lives have been filled with challenges and arrests and significant setbacks since they're last on TV. So I will say I'm asking you this, because you're the reality expert it's all dark, and I was like, so it was brutal. And I just had to turn it off. Maybe I'll come back to this. But there isn't argument that there is a reality show to be made. That is like actually about the aftereffects of famine and reality TV fame, and the hills are like a case study, and like they have their raw material here, but it seems like they are not making that type of show, and it seems like instead they're trying to just pretend like everything is okay. Yeah. I don't understand. I guess. I guess they're trying to go for the hills. Like aesthetic thing, but instead of pivoting the show to what people's lives of accomplish trying to round back. Yeah. Kind of a Salva for what I'm TV's. Yeah. I, I mean, I was just thinking dealer beach club, which as well which is canceled because it was sort of the same situation where they were just kind of, like remember this person from this exact time, and like partying, and everything's great. Everything's great now. And the show was, like both boring to watch and no one really wanted to watch it. And it kind of seems like that will be do you think that there is a way to make a good version of the hills right now with these people, not with these people it was in the answers, enter paroles? But now these people crucially also bring that up because the two EP of the show are Doug Ross Alex Baskin, who are the EPA of Vanda paroles and the real housewives Beverly Hills. So they're kind of like the chroniclers of TV Los Angeles at this point, but this show. Just is very different. And the cast dealing with this really different and it's just not as active. I kind of like a little interested to watch to see how their style affects what the show becomes because they're so used to like the fabricated event that you plan your show around. Right. But the visual aesthetic is really different. I mean it's like it's kind of like classic hell's going to be Adam develop. Liz Gately type of stuff, you know, and it's just like the to actually don't go together. Very well. Yeah. Do you think it can get better like do you can reality because this is the first episode right? Yeah. So the producers kinda see what they've got and where everyone is. And then make changes. Yeah. So one thing is also like infects watching this is that it's come out that the, the regional hills production made them like redo lines and scripted storylines, quite a bit to everything I watched I was like is this real like what Israel here, because the main storyline one of the main storylines episode is that Justin Bobby and Adriana like go back on a date in Andrea says this might not be true. But I think it is true, she says to Stephanie and Whitney that one of the first people to reach out. To her. When the news of her divorce broke was just in Bobby, and I was like, is that true? Like I need to know. And so I think part of the problem is it with the hills because it was so popular. There's been so much post mortem afterwards. It's very difficult to believe what you're seeing. And so to your answer to your question, like can't get better. I think that's really hard to overcome. Okay. I mean I agree with you. I, I have no desire to turn this episode back on the other just kind of like, as I don't need it to come back because I can any that have about these people. Thirty answered is answered, but it's just I can also follow it on Instagram. You know, like anything that I actually want to know about these people who were briefly in my life in two thousand six thousand eight different impasse ity is like, really available. So I don't need to sit down and watch the TV version. But also, it would feel more authentic. See them interacting on Instagram like four Instagram, like an TV show. I actually think that would be better and you're watching, like four minutes at a time of like a meal with raise people wherever, but I guess that would work. TV. No. Yeah. Definitely definitely not. All right. Don't watch the hills. But maybe read some books this summer. Let's talk about the books reading Amando. Yeah. I'm really excited. I I've been a negative Nancy on this podcast. I feel sometimes sometimes you just gotta tell. The truth shirt my other truth is that I am really excited about the list of books that I have lied up for the summer. I haven't even read them yet. Let's run through your your title. Yes, we should say we started this because you were telling me about the book that you're reading right now off Mike right before we started still on the pod. Okay. What talk about that? She has it inspired the beginning of my list. I just really was longing for a low stakes like middle brow book. I mean that was like such love, like for me that as a compliment, and that led me to the lovely Barbara's bookstore in Chicago, where it was over the weekend. If I purchased the Italian teacher by Tom Rachman, and he wrote, the imperfection est, which was kind of sensation like, I think our onto hundred ten it's a series of India. It's about different. Journalists working at, like International Herald Tribune type of newspaper in Rome. And I really enjoyed that memory on Cape Cod. In fact, a summer read, man, this is about a guy named pinch who has his bothers like a semi famous artist. And it's about this kid like trying to show, his father's standards. And then like preserve his legacy. And it goes from Rome to Toronto to London to France, and it's really great. I I'm like, I'm loving it and I feel bad that I call it middle-brow. It's really good. It's like it's a ball. It's, it's like the definition of readable, literary fiction, which is like a whole category publishing, and I just like I'm really enjoying it. Like, you know, it's not related to world politics. No one's really mentioned anxiety in it. There's no which, by the way, every single character in the hills did refer to their own anxiety. And it just it was like it was very it was jarring have enough on my own. I don't either xactly this, yes. Book is like free of that. It's, it's a lot about ego, and like family. And art our world. And I'm just like absolutely loving it. It's like a mentally readable. It feels like a more elevated than like a lot of typical beach reads, and I am also has really great description of the streets of Rome, and I- fantastic. So highly recommended. That sounds great I had I have not read the perfectionist. So I just put that on the top of it. So it's really fun. One of my list of the projectionist, which I will be reading I will do a book report on this later. I'm just going through the the lineup that out of this another novel this morning, just based on it. New York Times book review that it's, so it's called the most fun. We ever had. Oh, that's good by Claire Lombardo. I have not read it, but it is about four sisters. It's like a multi generational saga of four sisters who live in Chicago. Oh, great. It seems great. And it was also blurb by Rebecca MCI wrote the great believers, which I'm reading right now. It's early. I recall Kate nibs, really like in that book. Yes, I'm kidding than someone else. Maybe Jacqueline Kanter also ringers Fers that one. I am. I'm really enjoying it. I'm told it's really sad. But I'm gonna I'm gonna make it. I am. Glad that you mentioned the blur because those mean so much may I will read any book, that's eighty Smith has blur, gorgeous ally. Came to Sally, routing actually and the author blurb means more to me than the credit because it's tells you who they targeted pre yellow -cation. Their endorsement, and like how they're positioning the book, I completely agree, though. I often feel really guilty about it because you're a sucker for their marketing. Well, because the blurbs machine is like a really you have to beg people. And it's like the uses a lot of the author's time it uses a lot of the blurb time and also, it's become like a favor who you know, kind of contest and like, think of other people who can't get his eighties Smith, blurb, or can't get a Kate Atkinson, blurb, which is kind of what I'll read though I got burned by that there was one by quit that book, like ten minutes in. I don't even remember what it was called. But, but I agree that it if there is a certain author who I really love who slapped on the front of their cover. I will by no questions asked. Even though I know that, that is like book marketing, pulling on me, but I okay fall for it anyway. Worked for me this morning. So we'll see. I haven't purchased it yet, but I'm going to okay, so I have I'm taking office excited, and I have four book. Like marked off already. And these are my beach week book rates. I'm not allowed to read them until then, because it's really important that I saved for the prime reading experience. Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Summer of sixty nine by Ellen Hildebrand. I literally had that Taegu my laptop right? Ellen Hildebrand my friend Gilbert cruise introduced me to Alan Hildebrand like five years ago. She releases two novels a year. They're both set on tuck it. What's the best one? Oh, god. So much asked me this. I really like I need some, some good reeds for myself because everything I've got lined up. It's kind of depressing. Yeah. So I need some lightness. That's why I had to Tom Rachman. So I think that the perfect couple is very good. Okay. And the island is pretty good. Okay. Great soup. Basically Ellen Hillary does this summer book, and like a winter book issue, like in the James Patterson zone of having a ghostwriter. No, I think that she does it or I incredible used to believe that she does it. I also really recommend her Instagram, by the way. Okay, great. No. I think she does it herself. And she just writes quickly and has just a tremendous facility with plot and also untuckit where they're all set. Okay. So summer of sixty nine Elon Hildebrandt. Thri never one. The other is Big Sky, which is the new Jackson Brodie novel by Kate Atkinson, my two favorite living, novelist. Cool. I came out this week, I believe so it. She does in addition to writing life after life, which is my number one recommendation to anyone ever any, any novel. She also writes, like a detective series, Jackson. Brodie is the detective yet. So this is the latest one. Okay. Great. Okay. Good genre novel for the beach. Yes. Great. Speaking of John, novels, I got another one, it's called the Paris version. And so, I recently read this it's by Kris Pavone, and I read the first book in the series called the ex pats earlier, and it's like a basically Misra, Mississippi told from the woman's point eight that's not to test, and it's like set in Europe and it's kind of a spy, novel and apparently, there's a sequel, so many read the, and then the last one is, how could she buy Lauren Meckling which seems like kind of like the media, it book share summer about women in New York which? Once upon a time I was share so and friendship. And I'm looking forward to that one. So those are my four books that I'm reading on the beach. So you won't hear for me about them until August, because it's important to have things look forward to. And that's what I'm looking forward to those great. Here's my less. Yeah. First of all, as, you know, I love me before you buy Jojoy as do so many people. And she also just pumps 'em out. Really? It's pretty amazing. So she has a new one in paperback that I'm pretty excited about, and it's called the peacock emporium. I'm going to be honest. I don't even know what it's about thank it's like someone. I have no idea. But I don't care. I'll be valuable peacock than it could be about if it's called the peacock of boreal. I don't know she one of my favorite books. Here is the girl he left behind a painting left behind, so who the fuck. No. Okay, I have no idea is about a zoo. I think the peacock in question is a person someone's name. Oh, Mr. Magori emporium kind of thing. Okay. I have no idea. But I'm excited about that. At someone just recommended severance by link to me, which is, basically like a post apocalyptic millennial on. We book, okay? So I'm gonna I'm gonna read that or I'm looking forward to, and I was planning Irene. Some Alan Hildebrand. This is love it to really can I recommend Ellen Hildebrand enough for pure escapism? Yeah I'm looking forward to it. So we'll see where else. Yeah, wins of reading recommendations truly. Yeah. But I don't want anything to deep right now. That's true. I agree Argonauts by Maggie Nelson. And that's really you, you really buckled down a deuce heavy reading. I rarely do. That's the thing totally Adamy secret is like, now I'm not doing this remember what I read emigrant in, like two years ago and still dining out on that long one. I know but I read all of the pharmacy. It's. I will not be reading anything serious for another. I also destroyed motherless Brooklyn. I'm kind of like going back in time. I just based on a reduction like ninety five to two thousand and ten right now in books that feel like they have been from that Christ. I just wanna be this history over and over again. I that's what I what I prefer the goldfinch so much, really that the secret history too, but there's just a warmth, even in Donna tarts weird way to the goldfinch that I think the secret history, lacks Turley not warm book. I like warm book. Yeah. I guess it's true. But the ending of the goldfinch, I just I know I still wanna go to answer down, though near Ben okay? Man, rage that. Yeah. Fingers crossed. That's my summer reading list. That's great. Yeah. I'll I want to say that was very good. But just like to just like there's so much depar- like so much about, like every page I just was like, I guess I should take notes as I read this. There's like so much year. He wasn't even debt like some books are dense plot or people in the cramps. Much on page Magill's cramps so many ideas, into every page, which is really impressive. But also like too much for my mind right now. I think so. I thank you Magnusson for making that only one hundred fifty pages. Yeah, that's good. I appreciate efficiency you too. I appreciate now wasabi both side. That's totally. And you know I appreciate it. But maybe not in the summer, that's where I've maybe visit ideas of the fall. 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53: Stage 15 | Ivrea  Como | Giro dItalia 2019

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53: Stage 15 | Ivrea Como | Giro dItalia 2019

"You're listening to the circling podcast at the duty Tyler in association with graph the fastest thing in the world. The home of citing with character. Right. And what with Rafael twenty nineteen as they partnered with e f occasion, I and canyons ram today we have in common. Say. When are we, we are on the banks of the of late, komo's coma the shore? Yeah. In a little bar next. That's quite quite busy here. Isn't it sort of like a mini Anisi? I was gonna say earlier coamo better than Saint moxie on honestly, I would I would say, much bigger light big alight houses, small town. Similar. Yeah. Maybe maybe is a bit smaller. It's nicer though. I think it's definitely eaglets, maybe Litz. His honesty is not quite height the height of the summer season. Yeah. Is it so field quite lays? I rode from George Clooney's gaffe. Launch Armstrong used to live on the top of the hill. Nothing. See planes, taking off on landing on the lake as well. I don't recall seeing honesty and quite an unusual unusual site. We saw few unusual sights on the late. Didn't we guy cycling on the lake? He was on some kind of peddling bike on water. It wasn't a pedalo. It was stitch up. Yeah. Right. Bike. Tribe ause on it as well. But what's a stage American very exciting seats that the I thought amazing I six. Yeah. We saw. I mean, the shark on the attack didn't we and. Yeah. Really after you know, very kind of slow start. This Chiro has really come to the boil the last few days by foot. Today was terrific. Lots of action, lots to talk about and a disaster for you movies month today, gave us the fool rundown, Lionel Taylor. The top are kinda, yes. Stage, fifteen from Iran to coamo. Well on an ordinary day, the two breakaway riders. Daria Cataldo Astana, the eventual stage winner. And Mattia Catania of on this. No, I mean, Cataldo the state. The coma, there was off to that was Dario Cataldo coma, the stage when a coma, and Mattia Catania coma, the runner up coma off, while they were away all day, they broke clear after fourteen kilometers, they had a maximum of own teacher fourteen minutes, and something at one point, and then they would slowly reeled in and they almost court, but I'm we're in sight for the chasing group in the final Coloma two or so. But they held on to win or to contest the sprint finish. Cataldo got that for Astana his first year I stage win. His second grand tour stage when he won a stage of well to a few years ago, Catania. Oh, didn't really have the, the juice to match him in the sprint finish. But right behind them came a group of Simon, h Hugh coffee, Richard kinda pies. And Vincenzo Nibley, and that doesn't really begin to tell the story of the day. Particularly for Primoz rogue late show view Mbo visual, who had all sorts of trouble in the last sort of forty thirty forty kilometers he had a bike change, because at a problem with these kids, he got to ride on unkown, tow hooks bike. He then had a crash on the descent of the final climb where the footage with pretty dramatic wasn't. He was pictured hugging the barrier on the side of the road, and he's lost forty seconds to Richard cower pass. So he is now trailing by forty seven seconds overall and they're not the NBA visa at the finish. Our Dutch colleague, Don how. Hamburg basically, on earth. The fact that the reason. Rogue lich had to ride on tow hooks bike Waugh's because the team caught stalked. So the, the assistant sports director Yan, Boven could answer the call of nature. I'm trying to keep it general for you is this. Because then listen to the podcast, that head the Mollema done this, and they thought that Saddam thing now, among Dutch people at the JIRA before be effort to stop to. Well, I'm not going to go into details. But no, it was nothing to do that rising phase, two of operation. Very good. Very good. No, it wasn't. It was. Well, it was a mistake. It was a misjudgment. They, they basically thought that rogue lich was going to be okay. They couldn't afford seen. He's have a problem with the bike fortunately told hook was close enough behind. He saw rogue ditching the road with, you know. Swamp bikes roguish, then riding on a bike four millimeter smaller. Apparently and descending quite tricky descend on an unfamiliar bike, and the reach Wazir. She more than the height of the sides, so different. Yeah. On dissent. Must have been a strange sensation for well, especially as gender nearly was really putting the pressure on. He knows he's roading very well. It doesn't really his kind of territory said yesterday, the sort of place for an ambush wasn't quite anticipating this kind of thing. So. Yeah. Day for rogue nation of very good day for Canada pass who now leads by forty seven seconds and well, we'll discuss what that means for the rice in the first part of the podcast. The fastest clothing in the world to the home of saddling with character. Right. And watch with Rafael twenty nineteen as they partner with e f occasion, I and canyons ram like. Shirt of Rafa, because I really comfortable, my name is better virtual, and the race for education. I yesterday also tested in the cobbles and pretty good. No, I've an issue about it, so I'm yeah. I'm looking forward to keep on riding with the Shemi of Rafeh and recommend you all of you guys, these peop- shirt. Thank you very much. Indeed. 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So there'd be a kind of frenzied Russia vehicles coming through the finish line trying to get from between the, the leaders on the chasers and the final few kilometers were. Yeah, I mean I it was it was a frantic frenetic. Finale really wasn't it today stage and a lot of the credit for that. And goes to Vincenza Nibley, who if you remember a few years ago, they finally cost, Stephen cries, wake the victory, the Jiro same team. What was then lots of alien boo? Through his descending. You know, he he, you could argue that he caused Craig to crash through and just putting him on the source pressure on again today, you know, Roget's on an unfamiliar bike, but the, the pressure that Niba Lee was putting on descent was forcing people to make mistakes behind him, and it was very impressive. See, but you move had a bit of a nightmare. Didn't then you were there buffs of the Finnish. Yeah. And it does feel a little bit like things are unraveling for rogue late Chand, while we saw in two thousand sixteen what happened to crows week in the last few days and lost year what happened to him in the eighties. I mean not wasn't an unraveling was it. That was an implosion. But rogue lich all of a sudden ofter even two days ago, looking rock, solid really and off kind of immediate reaction off to the first big mountain state was, he strengthened his position, and we hadn't really absorbed, the impact over the significance of suddenly, Richard counterpart. These guidelines on the first of four tricky days. And really, he's kind of held it together. Okay. The last couple of days and then today well one thing after another went wrong for him and starting to look like the Giro's getting away from him. What you think. Yeah. I mean, as sort of said last night, I felt he was in a weak position. He. Was facing a two-pronged challenge from Maulvi stall with London composite in London's really had a couple of couple of days to recover and, you know, the isolation is not just a tactical thing. I mean today, it did have an impact because it meant there was no teammate next to him immediately that bite. But it's also psychological thing. It's just a sort of an unsettling effect of not having a teammate. And with you and I think that. If you count up the number of days when he will have been under pressure. When we get to the JIRA when he will have been isolated and, you know, it would almost be in double figures, and I think you can probably withstand that kind of pressure, not stress and a new sort of imponderables, the may occur crushes punctures or whatever you can get away with that, you know, maybe once or twice. But sooner or later, your gonna come acropora and he did today. I think the team Speights really interesting because it's a race where we saw today, how important team support as an today's Justice are sage where it was vital bodies around him. And of course, he's missing Lawrence, deploy and Robert Hesselink through. No fault zone. Don't Lisa guilty. Lionel, I'm sure Lawrence to the fallen ill anyway. And they're alert writers on that team that you think you know if if you wanna. To win one grunter in the season, should make really not a huge huge achievement. Why, why isn't cries wake here supporting him? Why isn't Tony Martin von? Are you know what I mean? Okay. Why don't have classics company but they've got some Tony Martin. And they've got some really strong writers who are not here, this race because they're, they're dividing resources between the JIRA on the Tertre fronts, but they're not going to withhold JIRA spectacles, I think they're going to France and challenge to win the tour with Christ. So why not all your focus into trying to win one grunter and imagine rogue lich here with that kind of support with that made a difference today? I mean, I think the. As counterpoint to that was the tour Tories much, much more important for Dutch pumps. You know, we, we see the crowds every year on them to me, it's more of a surprise, it roguishness come here. Aiming to win the rice, rather than going to France with CROs I am like they were lost share in an alliance, which would give him a good chance. I think I'm quite surprised that he decided to do Jere. I'm tiny Montana made a difference today today, while on, I mean that's supposed to Kusa finish. Halo pressure, onset Koos Bowman and toeloop three really talented young climbers, but really an experienced and he said, one of the things about being young experiences they have good days and bad days when they're good. They're really good, but they will have by days as well. There's a low pressure responsibility to go back to what I was saying yesterday about the way these four days of really. Set the race up to to shake people up and put people outside of the comfort zone. We've gone from tempo type climbing where what rogue lich would of ideally liked is strengthened depth on the final climb to ride a good tempo and just keep things under control. And, you know, squeeze gaps down for him. So he doesn't have to do any of that work. And today really kind of classics course where it's about not just a climbing. The descending the cornering, the positioning, the fact that the race was in, you know, it was it was in single fire for long long periods of time. And that, that's when everyone on the limit the stress is high, not just physically, but mentally and the young riders still getting to grips with that kind of that kind of riding, and it's a real change of rhythm from one day to the next and it's called the mouth of it today, but it's called the team out more than I and sports directors should have had the experience to not make what is going. Waters. It's going gonna look like a pretty bad mistake. I think you know, if things continue to go south for ROY glitch. I mean, everyone has to answer the cold of night. At some point, it's one of the hazards of the of, of the grand tour is sports director in the car. Rows an hours. And usually, you would think the before you get to fifty K to go you, would you would have stopped and, and sorted out. But we don't know what the you know what was going on in that earlier phase of the race. And if you think, oh, I can get through, and then suddenly conga through, I mean, we were discussing it as we came back from the team buses to the pressroom and Chiro said, well, you just have to go in a beat them, simple, as I keep the Kamu thing I mean, you can hold off going to the, the boss room for half an hour. We'll how desperate you know, if you've already been desperate for often out the team car is the sage light today, almost six six are y'all. Almost six hours. You've got to you've got the car's got to stop it. Some point for a column nation the promos econ plan that really you've got you've got to find the right spot. They could have been looking for a place to stop for an hour before they had an opportunity to stop who knows I understand it. They felt that given you know, rogue lychees lost feed and everything was fine. And okay. You know, it's a couple of minutes on the side of the road, and we'll move back up to you. They couldn't have known. He had a problem with his bike. The let's hear from a few of the people. Well, the way this kind of all emerged was such that when YoM Boven, who we gather had to answer the court of nights, be a real theme of this, gene. I was lost. Well, he was in the passenger see an idea and goes was driving so that to sports directors. I'm but when they basic came back to the team boss after the finish this, this story hasn't really kind of broken erupted. It haven't hadn't been unleashed this point. So let's hear first from young Boven and then from Eddie angles, and then from unkown toll hook about giving the bike to premiums. Rogue lich and finally, from our Dutch colleague, Dan hackenberg, who kind of piece together, the whole situation and explains as to the best of his knowledge. What actually happened out on the road? First of all, can you tell me, why rogue Lynch was on Quantocks a little bit hectic and the downhills he crested I think there was some probably the bike on Tomas coming back a little bit. Big mess with the cost behind on Tomas foster, take the bike, and it was so fast. Decide not to change anymore and equal you on the bike ovens on there was no opportunity to change after they're not possible, so fast ole small roads better to, to stay on the bike on moments. It's the bike a little bit small for him a little bit big now. It's not a big changes formula, maters lowered the bike onto onto just pretty similar. We know it also is. For the situation. Okay. What happened with rogue lychees four? I don't know. I can tell you. Forty seconds lost today. Yeah. It's a big miss. It's not not nice. I mean we continue for one week but there's another nice tuition the like this. How how difficult is it to defend full gas on somebody else's bike? I don't know. I mean, in terms of position, they don't change too much. So, but yeah that's that's really a question for for, for pre much. Of course. I mean luckily like I said, the, the positions they are more or less quite the same. So in, in that way, it shouldn't different too much. I think for for sure the. The chasing to get back on the group after the bike, switch costs energy. And of course, a lot of things it, it, it delivers stretch in into your head and. I think Indian that energy and also the mental energy that it takes. Yeah. Maybe with the, the reason why he wasn't able to follow on the climb, and then yeah. Two in the descent was he was not far behind. So of course, you risk a little bit more than that sometimes yet, I don't know. I haven't spoken to pretty much looks like then you risk a bit too much to bear like one of those days where one thing goes wrong. And then another thing goes. Totally. I mean it's it's one of those days. Where things go wrong. And then together with. Yeah, really bad luck in terms of timing and stuff things come together, and then you lose more than you want. But do you think, you know forty seconds, not great? But are you thinking what it could have been worse for sure? It could have been worse. I mean, he could have stayed on the road after the crash that could have been over and. Yeah. Looking to that I think on one way, of course, forty seconds a day like this is a lot on the other hand. It's, it's only for sheds. It could have been a lot worse and we're still in the game. Although we lose today and yeah. Now we have to get through the rest of the best way possible. And hopefully they're on. Yeah. The injuries are not too bad. And we can we can continue the finding the last week. I don't know. No, what happened to. I just came back at group and I shall remove from standing with by. So, so we divide and he to continue the locally with my wife, I know it was not possible to anymore with it because the year was. Of the bikes. We greenish Sherry that he he needs to change your bike done. Run me through happened with humor visual because. They've had a bit of a disaster this afternoon, it was a what we call an unlucky date. We spoke to the sport if directors of the team and on the status that after the descent of the sermon. Oh, they got on the flip part besides the lake. The gave rogue Leach some extra bottles but they have to take this. So stop the car on the right hand side, even they say to piss and then on the radio here, Rhode lease got into mechanical problem Roget's himself told us that his front changer is day were broken on told his teammate was just about to close the gap. So he was there first, because the sport if we're not able to hand in his spare bike, so that's the first by change. Then they went through up. They went up the final climb robot head to push to get back on the front group on the bike on onto, and then everybody could see what happened over there. So why did I the angles that they stopped? He didn't need to say that. This is the new Trump transparency. Maybe. Talking open openly about urine. I don't know. But. But. That take this quite simple. If it goes, well, nobody us this, but this is what happens in, in bike racing. It's some somehow it's like curfews to say about football, it's about making mistakes. So then we all by tomorrow morning, maybe the details of this will of you know, firmed up a bit. But as done hackenberg, said that as Johan Cruyff used to say it's a game decided by mistakes, and that was a mistake that contributed to rogue lich conceding forty seconds. Having to descend on an unfamiliar bike, and losing control on a relatively benign corn up a mistake, that was really the result of being put under pressure by Vincenzo Nibley chiefly if it's any consolation stamina don't think it will be. I think rogue lich will not win this journey tire because of his foam dwindling because he's form. I think he's winding. There's no way that guy who won the prologue by the. When the time Trump on the margin, he did on the climate, the son, Luca. If that was still states is quite the balance of power, he would be going with the best guys and following attacks on TV. There's no doubt about he couldn't follow those climbs. So did he have a bad day? We'll I think yesterday he was already. I'm not defending on the defensive, but he certainly wasn't a rider on that we start, Jerry. And that would worry me most of all of this. I agree completely. I think there, there are just little signs that he's not in the form that he was. He's being in all year for so long. And he's not he's just not quite on top of it in the way that he appeared to be hurt Gersh cycling team cars back of the lease. PK the voice of race radio. The two of the FRANZ to remind us to tell you that this episode of Jiro coverage -sponse it by hires raises now, rich, I don't want to be too personal hair. 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And, and we saw 'em Nibley really has his best, the thing today. I'm and I, you know, sets up a really intriguing finally, because I think counterparts I in the paint jersey also looked, we'll talk counterparts in the final par we'll hear more likely in Ecuador as well. But I think carapace his inexperience told certain points today when his team melted away, and he finds himself on the front working quite hard. I didn't really know what for and I don't there he is very experienced and Niba Lee as Justice are writer who might be able to explain that. Well, nearly a minute behind Roquette any kind of patch wasn't in the picture, you would say neighborly would be the, the really warm favourite going into tomorrow's rest day, especially with all the climbing to common him very much on with trajectory and rogue late show on. On the downward. Counterpart to the big on known. Really? But what nearly has in his favor is, is just that that staying power. I'm not re- determination. I mean you know, he was playing seconds really today and would have known. He's not gonna crack everyone in tight back or a minute and a half here. Nevertheless, he absolutely everything on the line to try and make some gains because he with his level of experience, you'll know that momentum does matter he'll go into the rest day now probably with his tire thinking let's bring it on Tuesday and see what we can do. And see if we can maybe put kind of under pressure, maybe put rogue lich under the pressure will cause him to crack completely, and then he's gained another place. And before you know the, the, the jaws music is playing a knee. Belise is starting to look also. Yeah. Dominace wa- spoke at the finish to Niba lease. Bari Maria teammate, Domenico, seveval, who was also very prominent today is going to be a really useful ally for nearly a year ago. Parts of evil was contented to win the race in the final week. If you'll recall very strong writer in the mountains. So here's a of evil said the finish good. They for your, your leader Vincenzo today, I guess this is a stage that he looked time fought would suit him to the grind. It was the final like somebody are so intense. Always did a great way for months on this race. And also today, make Sunday friends with juicy guys. I maybe to Pima to this, she comforted, the he can win this Chiro. So yes, we have confidence because still a very good feeling and last week very art on what were you, what did you make of today's I in? Go as much experiences Vincenzo. Obviously, what did you make him his performance today? I think got buses Bastogne now even if it's not a spins. Also last year was in the five is a greater contender. So it was Domenico seveval. And as you've said, Lionel, we know that Nibley tends to get if not better than less week of mailers and week three and every every stage is an opportunity for him really to. I mean it's not so much even gaining seconds. It's more by breaking his opponent says, as you could argue he did a little bit today with, with raw glitz, you know, rude rug which made that mistake or crushed with, with the pressure being on by nearly on something counterparts, you know with with the experience, but he has nearly complete with him a little bit. I'm speaking to nearly mind coast, you are speaking to mind coach tonight, nuts mar tomorrow. Yeah. He says just Kimiko whenever you want. I think he's playing mind games with me pick up. I'm not sure he needs to play mind games with you. I don't know. I mean. Maybe maybe you not respond to mind. I've you, you wouldn't buckle under the pressure mind games. Or maybe maybe. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't think he would need to play mind games with you. I don't know. But rogue lich the thing for rogue lychees how long ago now the two of Roman starts to fail. Whereas Nibley you know, he's come into this race as not being you. Look at the first power of Nibley season in, you don't say, well, there's, there's a potential grand tool champion. You look him thinking he's, you know, he's getting a bit long in tooth. But all of a sudden, you know, he's right back in contention and having vivo as well. And he's posted vivo isn't the only one in in that team that can do some career. Yeah. So there's a couple of really valuable allies. You wonder how much how much would rogue lich pie to have one of those on the side initially find a week literally? Well, I don't know. I mean, it'd be it'd be an unusual move. Check for Crusoe's. Books, one hundred thousand year is maybe somebody ever happened. It must have happened that somebody's enlisted the help of well wrong arrivals team short stories about the tour in the eighties and. That TI rally team having signed people for the following season who who were their biggest opponents now deal get done during the tour on the rest day. And suddenly, the guy would stop attacking I, I'd have to look back at some of my interviews with Norrish writer to, to before I made any specific allegation with names attached to them. But we're not suggesting anything like that toll M nine to the finish. Another writer who had a pretty good day was as he is very much. I think on would curve. He's Jiro is followed a strange. So the belco kind of pattern, you know, came in guns blazing. At least that's what we heard these verbally all guns. Blazing. His quotes, in the in the opening press conference might quite might Kuala noise than I am anyway. Yeah. Eight seems to be on the way back he was better gained today. And I spoke to Siamese and his darts will white off the Finnish since I today was better than yesterday which was a bit better than die before art. Yeah, that's right. I'm not willing t to the end no longer in the right direction. Sensations getting better. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. When the kicked off the still not really nips Nibley, then. But getting too so. Alexa, just feeling kind of smoother and lighter and more they wear the star the year. Working or not working. So. No stable, too. I think also the last the days before I wasn't able to go over my limit. Like, once I went over that was kind of it. I was kinda. But now I'm able to go over. And so, you know, racial only which is going to be difference when you make those accelerations or raw Dingle. Whatever is most were to sort of count with any theory about white walls, white happened on those couple of days, you'll guess goes mon-, I'm still searching for an answer. We don't know yet, either. If it's just just had a good couple of days better days, I should say and that actually next few days while tomorrow. Next week. We'll see what happens. Oh hundred percent we were looking for the stage win. I didn't work out it was 'cause we committed we tried. And it was it was a close, one exciting stage and yeah, for us. Tom is getting better. You can clearly see that the team to very good job giving opportunity. To try to win a stage was one point in the day where you kind of frustration with the other teams just thinking twelve forty minutes too much. Now, now, I don't really care what they do. I did more rice they can do their own site. Winds for everyone, so we ran rice and there was for other teams to come and join us chose not to that's it program. I said, you, you look stage win, but you are still very much committed to, to stain in g c with Simon on one hundred percent. But I think this light in the rice on the on the selective site is, you can say the cream is rising to the top. And so I think we can still win a stage here and Columbia. Why JC where where to? And just on next week. I mean, the governor is gone, but that's not necessarily gonna make that day easier or less aggressive or less conducive to two big attacks, Mark police. It'll be a more aggressive because the Garvey is not in name. So we're pricing to calms with one. The gob is such a solid loan calm. You can't be aggressive on the governor, the two smaller calms are think it'll be more aggressive only eight hundred maters less of calling in total today. We still take, maybe four thousand eight hundred maze of calming. So I it's, it's not necessarily an easy day. And the reason why they probably can't is bad weather is expected, as in Ryan, which makes and it's another dimension as will. So look, we've got some exciting racing to come and this year as you say, five of them over so. Way in Siamese certainly. You get the sense. He's just going to keep giving go isn't they. Yeah. And, and that definitely committed to pursuing this, while the general classification. They see great value in him, just sorta remaining focused on maybe finishing fifth sixth or seventh, but they see as a as a stepping signing in, in his development as opposed to last year when he completely fell out of general classification. So yeah, be interesting to, to watch Mitchell never nights. You days. I mean I think there's some good opportunities him next year next week. I'm interesting as well to talk about the, the change to the gobbles ties may can't potentially more exciting hard. I would tend to subscribe to that, as well interesting this morning mentioned in passing that any team any else. Am he was speculating on whether egging Bernal had been here, he reckons? They wouldn't have had a team to really. Support him in the race obviously civic his writing very well. They've lost tailgate heart, but, you know, he, he wonders, whether if Bernal had been here and writing, well, whether he would have had the strong team that you would have needed to, to, to defend the jersey, another British writer who wrote extremely well, today was Hugh Carthy he attacked on that final claim was just going over the top by Nibley carapaces on came in with them to the finish. And I grabbed a quick word with him. I finish it. We'll just the very start times. Because I, I I'm loving Yukon 'this understated interviews, his east, complete unaffected by being here and writing well, the Jiro. So here's Hugh coffee at the finish. You must have been pleased with your performance. I they are very aggressive, right? Yeah. I spoke to Hugh Carthy in Pinna Rollo, a couple of days ago when he was in the white jersey, he'd ridden, extremely well on stage twelve. Although he lost a little bit of ground on the final climb in the final five hundred meters. Lost a few seconds and held that, you know, over the top on the descent, and the run in. I'm was in the white jersey ahead of me. Galanga lopez. Of course. Sorry, sorry Spiderman crikey champs wake up. And so I had with him. He was saying, how writing like that being in the company that he was with confidence boosting, and it may made him feel like you know, he was in the race part of the race. We then didn't play the interview because that day eight and a half minutes to so fickle to the while I mean and the race was signed credible that we, you know, there was no room room for that. But to see him kind of dig in these last couple of days. I'm right so well particularly today and he was in in good shape yesterday as well. It wasn't he? Yeah, I kind of like the way that the F education. I writing where they're just they're not protecting any writer tunnel convert Joe Dombrowski, and Hugh Cantero just being allowed to do what they like today. That didn't the today was a great opportunity for a stage win for low teams and their team whose main go for the rest of the JIRA is a stage with. Up in up in not break. Neither shouldn't have they shouldn't have been thinking about bright. They should've been thinking about chasing it back with more Vega moon, gusto Mitchelson, Scott were the ones most of the work at the key points. It seemed to me and you know, and then for Hugh coffee, go off on the TV. Oh to try to attack him, and he was a belated points off the Lord mash shows hard, though, to say, can you bring it all back in for me and just not have the certainty the wall mom would? I mean what was the difference in the end? What did they Cataldo and Catania statewide second second? So, you know, just wall Mohmand up that from a you know, a couple of other teams might difference would've done true, but, you know, it's easy to say in hindsight. Everything's easy saying on Ceylon. Dombroski crush pretty hard today. He's been writing while it's still fifteenth. Roy go back up and into the group. I smoked him finish. Here's way set about the crush. But you oversee go back up pretty quickly. Yeah. Try to wasn't really the best time. In the crush. I, I don't know. I just grabbed my bottle, and then I was on the ground. I don't know. I hit a whole my front wheel or what but we change the bike and I made it back just before the bottom, but I wasn't feeling so good. So I was didn't hold onto long. You come in the same crushes rogue lidge. I don't know. I was definitely the first one to crash, and I don't know if anyone else's involved but yeah, but you're on your elbow on your your, your shoulder of things. Torn up, but not to arrest immoral. Yeah. The second podcast at the did Itani is supported by scientists. Sayi- is sport fueled by science. Thank you very much. Indeed, to sciences sport for support things cycling podcasts. You can get twenty five percent off all your sciences. 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We get loads of questions and, you know, we have to select the one we can answer, basically send us a voice message to our same number, which plus for, for seven nine seven one three three eight two zero five any questions about the Jiro. Daniel Richard will be happy to own for tomorrow. Indeed the update on the mug. Stacey Snyder's monks being sold for two good causes. Right for Charlie and the Kelly Cowan funday sold today within minutes of going on sale. And that's a final bachelor JIRA in front, but they'll be more mugs at the tour de France and then at the wealth and I hope maybe speaking prematurely here about hopefully we can repeat that next year. You know, Stacey sliders a friend of the podcast for years. Hopefully, we can retain her friendship into next year and she'll do the same again. And because they prove very plan they've raised Kuala money for these to good causes. So that's straight will slight another good cause for the Tertre France. Another one for the wealthy. So listen. Finally today, Richard carapace for stay in the pain jersey. What did you make of him Daniel, did we learn anything today about karma pases prospects of winning? Why look, solid doesn't they the Dow, I suppose, is is next week fed we he's a young guy. Relatively inexperienced by any scrunched Cy fall. He said weeks, we've been pretty good. It was good loss week last year Jiro, and it's looking pretty encouraging for them. Landless whiting wings. So I didn't really see too many signs too many causes for concern from AVI style. You're right. It was stage. Nineteen wasn't it last year where he and Lopez really leapfrog, a lot of people on the stage that Chris from one. He wrote really well day. And yeah. Of people wilted over those final couple days. So the signs are good for for CARA pas. And he's from Ecuador, of course. Yeah. I think if we get through Tuesday stage in good Nick and doesn't concede any ground, possibly even adds to avant. Who knows? The question was start the inevitable question will be what time trialing going to be like, remember last year. The Trento to Rovereto time try. What how what was the cost for that, like it was it was pretty? It was pretty flying. Yeah. And he was, it was fifty second in that which dropped him from six over to ninth over, and then, as you say, Richie clothed himself back up to fourth overrule with two very, very good day about an Kia and Chevy. Nya this time trawling has been solid. He was good on the climb wasn't he in bologna finished fourteenth? And then he was eleventh in San marina, which, again, he wasn't quite as fully on the radar then as he as now, but some of the people beat him, you know, Hello, Bill bio Hugh coffee. Byun goose chat. Hey tunnel. Conga Niba, of course and rogue lich the fine who Tom trial in Verona will be one of those ones where it's all about. About the recovery own about how the legs respond to the previous three weeks raw than a pure test of chill kind of straight out of the blocks time, trialing ability. But I think if he gets through Tuesday, We're going to be starting to think of deposits very strongly. A potential JIRA champion hair only. Well, mention mentioned he was from an could we don't know enough about cycling Ecuador. So we went to try and find a little bit this morning from the two other Ecuadorians in the race Jonathan Narvaez from team, any else on Jonathan Caicedo is there say the of education, I fair to say these writers are no and they're not the same as compounds in their abilities. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but different types of writer, m Narvaez is more of an all he can get short claims but he can sprint as well. Both are bigger than pure climbers. He is em. So that was in. Interesting, but we spoke to both of them and Wilson to have our texture, the coach at team any else who has special responsibility for the, the Spanish, speaking writers, including Americans team. So we'll hear first from Yanna Tyne Narvaez from team any else then from Jonathan Caicedo from f as the first and then from heavier Archer from team, any else can you tell me anything about cycling in Ecuador? What is the cycling scene like in your home country? Now for sure. The fines enjoy a lot the victory of richer Richardson being. Thing. My king is not to begin with. But now three guys wall to the show. We did people get starting to think about Martha, and I am crappy for each happy forequarters, and I think he he will be with you in the end. How did you get into cycling when you were young? Did you see on TV or did you see local races? She says she's hiking on TV. I remember two thousand living defense on that made you might rather that fiefs. And then I use that to get. And who would you support because there were no Ecuadorian is then what's the relationship with Colombian ride has, for example, close to Columbia? So in, in the water from Columbia, and I, you know, Columbia have to cyclists also I need devoted Nettie so many raises so many fans many interesting and was, I think he's. Established shaking. I'm is that much media coverage of you and Richard and, you know, other Ecuadorian cyclist who've come to your in the media in Ecuador that is that he's that he's around three or four guys. Now they gave the Morris wrong for the common devoted. But I dunno at the moment. A new day of Welte Ecuador. Is that some big races that you've competed in the? Before just they just snuffing. The government, they put some much interesting in the may racist uniquivocal, the two zero or something like this. But now I know. Do you think Richard will become one of the biggest sports people in Ecuador because of having the pink jersey here? Yeah. For sure. Initiative. I what they can seem decision media. He's famous now but. Yeah. He would he got he Nick whether cook from I think it's a great source of pride for the whole country. I'm really happy for him. He's being very I'm bishops writer, and he really deserves this. I think all the fans in Ecuador must be thrilled does a lot of interest in JIRA now. And we can really sense that the countries behind us, Richard ni-, both from the province of Kaci. And it's a great place sprite, how I the majority of it is two thousand eight hundred meters above sea level. The landscape is peaceful, and there are a lot of rose to train on, I think we get some strength from nature from the Lund, we grew up on. It's a dream for us to be hit the Jiro just hype it goes well for Richard the people who've caught. She a warriors that charismatic, I'm we're seeing that here with Richard. I think he's very determined very focused on. I have a lot of faith in him. He'll fight to the end. I wish him the best of luck. Stuff United's, but I must say I see three Ecuadorians in the race one of them leading the race. I mean is cycling seem there? You been developing over the last few years. Gee, I think, is developing. But this no really big psyching cycling culture, jet when all the when they are young. They always go to, to Columbia to raise since they are junior writers, even even younger than union writers. The used to go to because they don't have a lot of cycling races. Calendar ASO Ligo two Colombian. You can do you can see in the in the best Colombian races. A couple of Ecuadorians now. So all of them CARA path was a really good. He really good victories in junior and under twenty three category in Colombia before coming to Spain to another hundred twenty three two. Diplomat him on same phone are biased same for title. So but they think now with them in the in the wall to level, what they say is, is improving, but they have still a lot of work to do on just cannot compare with Colombia. Vise the and our texture and interesting little insight into cycling Ecuador there. And there isn't of a scene there to rival that in Columbia, and it seems that the, the goods Ecuadorian writers have to go to Columbia in order to race. And our, our ten shells told me that, you know that the level of organization and Ecuador's really almost non-existent in terms of federation, and so on. So the writers emerged tend to do so through Colombian racing. It's an interesting phenomenon known if. Counterparts wins or does well in Jiro, and he'll be famous and Ecuador I guess, more famous Julian Assange, my. Exactly. Why don't know lived in their embassy for how many years, six years, seven years? Yeah. Seven he was he was in that before Bradley Wiggins won the. Toda frowns. Saying. Yeah. Since while I mean how long it's been in that because the day when he went aim was today, when we see the same hairdresser, you know that he's not in there anymore, though. He's not, he's not a whole other subject. Anyway. We should wrap things up. I'm we should also say farewell to Lionel farewell, Richard vilo tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Just when it's your well, thank you very much, Lionel for being a stole of this Jiro so far that was hard wasn't. Thanks. Thanks, rich. Thank you leave with our good wishes. Why could wake? Thank you Lionel. Thank you. Nine. Thinking.

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"What do I think of her? I don't think of her. Yeah. Jaren. Wine. Thank you. In. Wow, we're back relies high. Guys. This is eating for free podcast reporting from the absolute edge of the internet. And we're back finally back on, like age semi regular schedule. We have truly fucked ourselves over this week, though. This summer engineering, Lawson will be traveling again this week. Right. I have to do the dreaded family travelling for the summer and we're also going to a Slater concert on Thursday. So I know. And it's pride weekend this week and he's all in different days. We all need to be here at the same time. So, so we're going to make it work. I still don't know. I'm actually really proud of you that you just completely opted out of pride weekend with me, you were just like I'm actually better than you. And she can't make it to price. Biting weekend will probably just be sitting inside and rewatching, the dark crystal for the third time this for you, honestly. No. I think Chris, and I wanna go out Chris. You're listening this, please respond to my talk. So we figure out what we're doing. It again but leader is like, really my pride. Yeah. I mean she's doing the pride kickoff, it feels very apt. I mean, since we have let straight people do pretty much everything for us this year. What better way than demand it all with a Slater concert? So I just want to say you guys, thank you for kind of dealing with this month. It's been kind of off a lot for us. On the girls engaged group hosted a like a thread about, like what are some good things that have been happening this month because it's so far been really damaging for us to like circulate just like terrible stories. And I'm really is. They actually was like, oh, my God do actually need that. I like I do need to remember it was just want to say thank you to the people that did that kind of stuff over the weekend on the girls engaged group. Because like I said a lot in our Friday, episode like this isn't fun for us, sometimes it's necessary for us. And we are always going to do it. I still enjoy it. But just because I enjoy something doesn't mean that I necessarily find it fun and all the time. And we tried month. Yeah. At least sucked my soul out through the top of my head. And I'd feel like the 'Lions bodysnatching me for most of it. So I'm finally back. I feel like I'm coming back tacit session, you know. Yeah, I know I feel like also when we're like, you know, doing her notes researching, it's like one thing to have it all on your head, looking up, reading, and like cross referencing and whatever hock, but then to talk about it here to y'all. Manifest it in a physical space. I know intellect, then confront it, honestly. It's a whole other thing. And then to also have you guys like sending extra support on what we're talking about, then even like deepens that, like I dunno impression. I have. Yeah. And I think something that a lot of you reached out to us to say which I, I personally, like, really, really appreciated it I needed it and him was that it was a south for you for us to talk about this in any kind of way. I mean like I said to a friend on Twitter this weekend, like something that I think is really inspired a lot of our process with the show in the last couple of months, especially is this sense of the isolating oppressive nature of modern news. And how alone you can feel in the world right now with all of these things going on and something that we're just trying to do with each other through this, but also with our listeners and the community were fostering is just like. I don't wanna say inspiring because inspiring literally feels like something, they put on the back of like a Disney movie DVD box. But like. Where at least hoping that people begin reaching out in the ways, we're trying to reach out with all of you and between us right now here in this podcast. Studio to say, like if we all feel lonely right now that means we are all alone together, and we can begin to kind of bridge that gap. And I think our pride conversation helped that for me at least because going into it, I was like, I'm not having a good time. I don't wanna think about this anymore. I feel really sad. I really empty, and then this weekend, when messages kind of poured in was, like, that's why I do this because we are not alone in this, like, there are people out there who feel the same way. Tune in to listen and honestly share themselves. I mean, like how many times have we gone into the girls engaged group to be like, oh, somebody said this one thing, like, let's bring this up or someone gave this kind of context, and so that I think, has really not only made us better reporters and bloggers and gossips and podcast hosts. But just kind of like better people like being more mindful of the world around us and understanding that, like, yeah, I am not the only person that feels this way right now low, I know he actually was early amount of, of emails and stuff that we don't really like always publish on here, again, is, we don't want to just be self aggrandizing. We're not gonna throw it nice things. And we don't want like circle jerk the whole thing, but we do go a measures of people saying, thank you for confirming these, like beliefs are confirming those feelings, and then also providing their own insights, so it's not just purely void spaces. I think one thing that you and I were talking about recently in reference to specific that Big Joe video that came out on YouTube that I loved about the like D like kind of trope. We see so often in like a lot of culture now like YouTube, or like just Instagram, even just idea of talking and ranting and avoid space bureau is just like communicating to other people like just your ideas. Endlessly. But it's not having a feedback there's near feedback forming the aesthetics of a conversation than really being in dialogue with an audience that is dynamic, and full of diverse opinions force, you know, you and me have our own that we can do that here with. But of course, we're very similar. But to have you guys online, always, like rally behind support given the point of view, criti-, or critique tell us we're wrong. Do not always support. Some knows it is very worse. See, of course, and, like, yeah, I mean, when I say support them, I really do just mean like give extra. Info doesn't have to mean like, you know, everything was a plus. So I love that. That's great. That's like the real sense of community, like what we wanna do. I love that. And I'm happy. We're like getting through it this way, even knows mother's been sociology. And so with that I have just one simple thing. I'd like to say, all of you now here that I have a captive audience, please don't burn up crude. And we're just gonna keep moving. So. Like love to pick fights. So for this interest of, like my mental sanity, I have one news e meta Denver sation update that I wanna do, and then the rest, it's gonna be pure gossip for me today, folks. So Lawson will hopefully balance it out with some actually important dialogue. And for my own sanity, I decided to venture deep deep deep deep deep into us weekly Daily Mail and page six obviously, that's my job every day. So I'm already kind of there, but there are conversations I don't really necessarily get to explore in that column. And so we're gonna do that here, and I think I found some really fun. But it's just pure bullshit. So why don't we start with the news because this is an update. I was floored by Lawson, I think I was genuinely floored. Okay. What Daily Mail headline, of course, being fixed up chip and Joanna Gaines will spend ten point four million dollars, expanding their magnolia market retail village in Texas, that will now include a whistle ball field and church wiffle ball field is that's not the most haunt brand thing I've ever heard from them. So guys. So we previously talked about this in it wasn't a. It wasn't a patriot episode right? There was a deep dive is we are deep dive on Waco, Texas, you months ago. Yeah. A few months ago, and it was a lot about how chip and Joanna Gaines are indicative of this new brand of Americana culture as seen through commerce and retail, right? Joe? It is. The pillaging of a very specific set of American values to be commercially viable on a huge stage while still kind of clinging to that relate ability, down-home nece that we see with a lot of mega church pastors where it's like I'm just like you drive into church Lamborghini. You know, it's like very much that by so this retail village, I don't know if everyone has these where they are. We definitely have a lot of them in califor-. I was gonna say. Ninety five percent retail villages strip cells turned like parks, like that kind of moment. So it's basically an unin- closed shopping center, yet, usually ranges between two hundred fifty thousand six hundred thousand square feet of gross leasable area. It will contain often a few big box retailers or like massive retailers, and then a smaller set of community retailers like open air environment. There's usually water, fountains, and parks, and it is supposed to engender. A sense of this is just the local community center that we're going to take our kids to like, oh, like let's take our kids to the retail village. You know, and you can play in the water found in while mom and dad shop at target writers, but it's supposed to engender this like community center vibe young thing. I always think America is so interesting in that we focus, our public space, so much retail except for just regular perks base that we have to put parks in March. To then, like cell that idea, and this seems like the epitome of that. I'm assuming there was a lot of I was gonna say there's that place in. Southern California that was mentioned a graph the grove. But like Dell almo fashioned center. Oh, okay. In lake southern California, or was that one in San Diego fashion. Jolly. That's another like retail village. Here. We have fifth street enough history. What's the one day street bay street? It's this to replicate lake a little quaint village moment, or like yeah. Or like an outdoor like. Any mall in the valley. Like when I was there with Matt the other week, we were there, and there was like this whole place where they had, like, outdoors, so fuzz, and like, like your may pumpkins Dan's laying next to like the Macy's and there's lots of interactive experiences or like very outdoorsy. We're having like a carnival there that we end. But it was like a gourmet carnival, you know, definitely California, too, because I didn't even personally go even go into an indoor mall until I was like sixteen or some. Oh, yeah. Like I had a highlight had to like one of my friends took me to when much farther out, where it was much hotter, and they needed, like door base. A whole indoor outdoors static is huge in the retail village slim Neo into this. So it says the fixed stars have introduced their ten point four million dollar plan to expand on their already popular shopping center in Waco. This new retail village at magnolia market at the silos will feature. More shops, a relocated historic church that will act as the Ville. Village center, a wiffle ball field and other attractions. So that came from the Waco tribune-herald, who we previously sourced, when we discussed the rising home prices when one home in Waco jumped from one hundred twenty four thousand dollars to one point six million dollar, like Loza one bedroom two bedroom Victorian. No. The construction is underway and they are converting buildings at the eighth street in Webster into coffeeshops more expanded magnolia home furniture showrooms. It will be arranged around a green lawn and future five brand new retail spaces and restroom centers and an information tourists booth. There was a relocated second Presbyterian church that is, as I said the village green. That was built in eighteen ninety four sat vacant for decades. They purchased the property in two thousand seventeen and are now relocating it there's also be quote, splash pad for children, which is like an outdoor Bader. Fountain area that will be brick walkways landscaping and outdoor lighting so that they can elevate the aesthetic at night and host events there. It draws by the way, currently thirty thousand visitors a week. And a lot of people have said that the reason that they're expanding it is because there's not enough. Room for as many visitors as they get. And they're like, we should buy more land in Waco, because if we expand we can house more visitors. It is literally, the entire capitalists aesthetic, if you build more space for your shopping more people will come. Do we know that they're like the tourism jumped like six thousand percent or something before Nassar their Andro like ends up being millions as easily year? And so they submitted the plan to the city and it envisions the project as listen to this, an economic catalyst for an upturn. Waco, Texas, their power, it's actually lily, too powerful to say, look, it's actually kind of so unless Thursday the tax increment financing zone board debated over whether to allow one point one million in community funds to be used for the project so they are paying tat this with tax money a one point one million dollars because the Waco tourism, boredom. Sure is like foaming at the mouth at this. So Jim Peavy they quote here. He's. A real estate broker credited the couple for quote, creating something that is truly benefited Waco, quote, if it a lot of retail builds up, there will be on the map for a long time. It could turn into a regional retail hub. Because that's the whole of American dream is to build a shopping mall in your town, and listen, we know what happened. What happened in the eighty s when everyone was obsessed with building crazy malls are all now abandoned fully because that's what you can almost work. I find it interesting that there's no like, and I'm sure there's nothing to do in this article about, like the effects of the actual communities that live go that are not benefiting from this, no mention other we brower and immigrants and the tires. They acted by these rising prices. This actually reminds me of something that happened in San Jose, where I was originally born before we moved more towards the central coast, and there was a mall. Boy, where I was born in San Jose. Anyone's from the bay area you know, about Westfield mall in downtown San Jose is it was built on west ancarlo street, right which in the past was kind of known as midtown and it was just like a working class neighborhood for the most part, a lot of like old San Jose families like my grandparents. Great grandparents grandparents were field workers in San Jose, and they lived on what used to be farmland when they were working in the fields out there. And now as soon as, as developed it is like the downtown San was originally groves. They're farm. There's not even that long ago. There's this, like, crazy photograph that used to stress me out, really bad. So where my. Great grandparents home. Is it used to be near the fields because it was easy to get to work there? And there is now a highway overpass and like a skyline behind it. But in the photograph, it is just treats like a grove of trees. Right. And it's so crazy because you realize how quickly this development can happen. And so this mall Westfield built directly in the centre of what was traditionally a working class neighborhood. Everyone in that neighborhood got gentrified out. They started building high-rise luxury apartments high-rise for San Jose is like four stories you guys. So I'm not like talking ten story buildings here. They then built Santana row, which is like an herb been village my open. I like retail village where there's like, now, Gucci, etc. Right. Ho gonna hydros Lux your guy. Absolutely Holmes started to become harder to buy the market became saturated. And a lot of people had to relocate to e San Jose rape. So I just find this to be something that isn't just a Waco, Texas thing in every nothing new at all. We see what happens when retail villages, pop up in places where the people don't typically make that much money they might make a very small community of people very wealthy overnight or access to wealth overnight. But, like for the most part, the majority of Waco, Texas has not seen the economic benefits of magnolia market is a very select group of people, right? And what drives me crazy about this is chip and Joanna Gaines whole aesthetic is weird, the relatable down home like country girl in boy who just like happened to walk into this lifestyle. But you're single handedly reshaping your hometown with a ten point four. Million dollar project subsidized through tax payers, money, you're not just like some relatable, down home person you're like a government power. And you also now, as I remember we talked about the article creating entire tourism industry, that didn't exist before in Waco, and this is only set to in to like expand that further. And if anything, this is the beginning of another project that will soon come later if that one is successful, they'll just keep going. Because that's how it works at the shopping centers. Good enough. They'll just keep building more and more and more. I know in San Diego like the two biggest malls near me was the one in north and the Hoya and the one east like mission, like, fashion valley mall, used to be very simple kind of more like Creighton barrel like on. No, middle class, you know, AMC movie theater or what have you is like pretty basic. And then as it kind of went on, as they tried to attract more wealthy, people coming from Mexico, specifically, or from other parts of California. They started putting in like the luxury or mez. You know, Louis baton, you know, getting all like super fancy super luxe like setups, all the fancy outdoor furniture water features, nothing new. This is like all been done before. Waco because it's in the center between the Dallas Houston. Austin like triangle, which, I know is the only ever expanding region. Geographically this is pretty much them trying to cash cow the whole situation. They're like, here's an opportunity, we can take it for what we can get. And if it doesn't work out, we can move on somewhere else. That's exactly what it is in similar news. Talk about another capitalist pulse, gape, ISM soon to occur. So did you see the Taco Bell hotel is finally happening this summer? I have to say the rendering zero quick, like lemme low that real quick Taco Bell is going to be doing a pop hotel in Palm Springs where else and it looks absolutely bizarre. And also the person they interviewed for it. I just have to read some excerpts mare, so. So I kind of some USA today, which shockingly had like the most amount of info won this. So they talk about, you know, going to sleep in a room decorated with wall-to-wall in Florida ceiling talkable artwork. Talk having special taco breakfast delivered to door and floating in a pool and the giant Taco Bell sauce packet, that is your raft is that is just the taste of a guest in the bell, which is aimed at the hotel experience. At his unique Papa experience in Palm Springs coming this August. It's where quote taco dreams. Really do come true. Jennifer are not talkable senior director of retail engagement, inexperienced said in an interview, just recently about this new experience any of our lucky fans that are able to get a reservation are going to have bragging rights for the rest of their life. It's going to be really spectacular so rate started just one seventy per night, and it's first come first serve. I think you can book it by the end of this week. It will only be for four days long. You can book for one or two four nights. There'll be lots of activities planned, and they suggest that you're eight hundred. Older. And I just want show you real quick. You guys can look this up online real easily. Look at with these rooms look like, by the way. No love. No, just no. Nope. Fire the fire sauce, packet. No. I'm good. I'm good love into picture frames of taco sauce, packets and Taco Bell sauce packet, theme pillows and wall art with Taco Bell sauce packets as well. They say that not nets will be the same entertainment will include feed the beast artist dive in movies in the first ever freeze lounge, which was inspired by the mountain to Baja blast which will offer frosty beverages at a chill lounge. As quotes from Jennifer of the retail experience. This is bigger than anything we've ever done talking about how like they needed to be without two hour drive much Poyton area needs to be predictable weather, and of course, a wonderful vacation destination. So of course, Palm Springs is perfect. I think this is easily connected to like, you know, the catella stage coats, you know, like new Sheikh of Palm Springs. It's been developing recently. She talks about how the city's fun in the sun, vibe is irresistible to audience whose brands share the same energy and vitality. Taco Bell is a worldwide brand these young audience will get chance to experience in Palm Springs and share with all their friends, family and social audiences. This is an extension of taco bells. Think outside the bun and live, Maas Moto were known to offer. Really unique cool experiences with our fans. A lot of our fans have their first date a Taco Bell. We knew that our fans really want to have numbers of experience, where it's comission everything. It's about our food, our music. It's about a merchandise in everything else in between. I'm really excited to see the influencers that eventually will post many, tragic, and Justice, dopey and selfish episode L coming later this here. I think actually a patriot. Subscribers. Would you be comfortable with us taking your hard earned money and staying at the Taco Bell hotel? This smell at the pool. Restroom is going to be so wretched. You guys. I'm honestly hope, I'm honestly, kind of expecting maybe like a fire festival moment. Here were like Taco Bell cannot handle handle it. Because apparently the hotels, only offering us Los Angeles's. We'll talk about handles the rest. We should absolutely drank at press packages for this. We should reach out, I should try and reach out, right? The lesson winds up amazing. We need to get in and talks with Jennifer. I, I will post these hunting, Posey's photos, links to them in our episode description, but I wanted to show you this lesson. So, like I was talking about San Jose. And I just couldn't get this out of my mind I needed to show you evidence of what I was saying. So here's what San Jose looked like when it was just orchards yet, literally just orchards, and then here was it less than seventy years later, God. Oh, that's exa-. Oh now. I know exactly where that is. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, it actually used to have a. That's a lot of ties like the orchard city because it was so strong smelling because of how many orchards were there that you would smell the entire cities fruit things bef- things growing operations before you actually even entered the city limits like an, especially hot summers, you could smoke anywhere sugar. And that's what like my grandfather would talk about having a day. So anyways, I thought that that's really crazy. And it's really indicative of how things like doc. Oh, bell hotel and Waco, Texas can be instantly transformed through the capitalist side. I'm sorry. I know if I tied that up I was like, little bow wrapped I just want to say any when he's been to pump strings. Knows that in August. It is like one hundred fifteen degrees plus at all times, and the smog in sulphur layer that can sit bump Peng springs at times is really intense. We're going to go to the Taco Bell hotel, and we will do a full episode inside of the Taco Bell hotel. Can I start out something? Can I spend I just say real quick? Oh, yeah. Nothing. My stomach could really handle the taco experience. Not only lactose intolerant. But I am someone who tries to be somewhat okay with what they're eating and try to limit their use of foods this, I don't think I like it, this Mel of the bathroom because the water in the heat, and they he hoped okay if they have a staff of like one hundred just ready to go with, like windex wipes and shit like they can do it. But like I don't believe that's going to happen. I know this isn't like an uniquely, California thing. But I grew up in small town, California, for the most part and Taco Bell is like fine dining for most Californians. And so I just wanted to know no lesson. Really? I know you want to like, get on your high horse of the del taco eateries of southern California. I don't agent they'll talk. We are proud of our Taco Bell heritage here in central northern California. And I grew up eating it, and I'm fine. I truly for this. Price. Especially do I think it's particularly Mexican cuisine. Absolutely not. Is it? Fully capitalist. Cannibalisation of a very specific set of regional dishes. Yes. Does it still bang late at night? When you're coming back from the party. Yes. And do is still eat it to this day. Absolutely. And I'd be lying to you. If I said, I did actually every time my grandma comes up and visits, she has to take me to the Taco Bell on first street in my hometown. And she's like, oh, is the talk about still open, you need to go the talk. I do remember them. What do you order? I need to know that, that's the real political understanding because I am not a full psychopath. Get a just a couple of tacos and a cheese. Okay. I'm not going to punish myself as someone who tries in eats better than I used to when I was living in suburbia. But, like I still would order and you know what nothing tastes as good as the Pepsi at a Taco Bell. And I just say that, okay. Like I will not girl what kind of demon I am. Anyway, let's spin out to something worse. Okay. I have long said that. I don't trust people who want to be president right now. I have to eventually vote for a president that I somewhat support in the grand presidential race. Yes. And will it most likely be whoever survives? The Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren death match. Yes. But. But do I trust them? No do I think they're necessarily good people for one to be president. No. So thank God that as presidents you are afforded a lifetime of luxury after being a public servant. Right. You would think the term public servant, engenders, a certain amount of humbleness in our presidents. It would engender, a certain amount of humbleness in our political leaders. No, no, Honey, because thanks to page six. I was reminded that President Obama, flew private to late Cuomo Italy, so that he could party with George Clooney, and demolish Clooney this weekend with Bano. So I guess it is just so nice that I guess it is nice sample per page, six. New pictures show, the former first family. Has landed in late KOMO Italy to spend some time with their Powell's Amal, and George Clooney on Sunday, Barack Obama and George were spotted getting off a boat in, you know what a word I'm not going to say, which is near the actors sprawling Italian villa Obama reportedly arrived with former first lady Michelle Obama and their daughters. Malia and Sasha on Saturday photos showed a mall forty-one looking stunning in an orange gown with purple floral print. I think it was Diane von Furstenberg, but I couldn't find sources that said, so they also jetted off to the south of France before this, there, they dined with Prince Albert the second in Monte Carlo, on top of the hotel day Perry, and they also spent time on the French Riviera with Bono. I don't I don't see that the what they all have in common to be together with. I mean, except for Nahshon say. Wealth age. But no. That's not it. It's just that international circuit of celebrities that party with nasty, people know it's just like the least conflict, you don't actually I found photos of Lindsay lo Han Pamela Anderson, and that one prince that everyone is always prince Zime that everyone always is like Princess him, is he gay or is he not gay? What him talking about. No look up prince ZIM right now, just look up. Prince ZIM Pamela Anderson Lindsay Lohan because I found this photo when I was looking up photos of Lindsay Lohan alleged charitable work, and I couldn't find anything. But wait, are you so wait on mystery shirt dotty revealed wit doesn't chosen thirteen articles so prince's name is the prince of Brunei, and he's a second born, and he's always has this, like, is he gay is he not gave rumors about him? But like, oh, they're not showing the photo way. Weight go down. Go back to that when you were just in. Oh, god. Yes. No, no. It's mariah. Carey fade. Dunaway, and Chris Zime I have more questions than ever. That was the photo from luxury dot com. Yes. So like that's what I'm saying. That's what rich celebrities do. It's like Faye Dunaway parties with prince Zemin? Mariah Carey on a yacht somewhere in Naples like Lindsay Lohan also hangs with him too. So that connection hand was also partying with him. And the same the expensive picture were Pamela, and yes. Loxton look like isn't it? Byles. You know, Pamela Anderson is now dating Wiki leaks, and is giving quotes about how she truly thinks he's about to get us acetate. And so, like, that's what I'm saying this the bench. From the Google related images are cursed out of money. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When you reach a certain level of wealth, the Van Dyke of politicians and wealthy people is a circle on the international markets. I'll just say this mechanism anything. I know I know I don't wanna say accent, isn't a photo with this course Lawson that's trying to explain to you right now. So that's. Now it's coming now loss. It is just. Screaming at every single photo of celebrity prince ZIM? So all the same party that's the thing. Anyway, let's exhaust. He's a good if you ever want to go on a YouTube K, hold just look, prince zoom videos. So anyways, I have one more thing I want to say and then I'll let you take it away from me for a little bit. So Lawson lesson I wanna ask you a question. And I want you to answer me on his lead something that's possible. Okay. Maybe maybe. What who do you think? Bethany Frankel is currently feuding with. I'm going to talk about. Did you? So this year's shooting by number. Okay. So I'll give you a list of Okocha questions. Okay. Is she feuding with a former housewife? Co host of the view a politician, or an Instagram influence her. You know, the politician and housewife seems like the most common by Jones. I think it's definitely not. I'm gonna go with the view or an influencer ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding. Is this up? Is it the view? Yes. Okay. Okay. So Bethany Frankel is currently in a feud with sunny halston. It just seems like the New York type of like energy, you know, Austin has been on the view for a couple of seasons now she's probably one of the only semi rational members of that panel. At this point, actually, I would say, she's the only rational member of that panel at this point in, in. I don't know what to say. She's super into the legal system. So I think that tells you a little bit about the copy nece. Is that a little? But I would say she has the most level headed opinions on a panel full of deranged lunatics. So she is currently in a feud with Bethany Frankel about. So it's started with a story. She has told multiple times on the view and most recently discussed on June thirteenth in the story. She says, I don't know Bethany, but I've seen her behave that way on the beach. Come here about again, he could never actually feel. No, no. She spilled a t a couple of times, they're telling me not to talk about it in my ear, said, that was is he. I'm just saying I've seen that kind of behavior when Bethany yelled at my child on the beach. Yeah. Say they did not bet every penny hill. Hi. Or on the beach because she's it was in the middle of the day, and my child was about seven playing with other children at about two o'clock in the afternoon. And she said that her child was napping inside with the window open, and that our children were being too loud on the beach skinny Monka rita's for you. So what did she do? So then she went out there and yelled at the Kenya. My child, and I went out there and stood in front of my child, and I yelled at her and told her that adults speak to adults. Reality show. And she knows I'm telling the truth, so Franco stay do you wanna play real quicker? No. That's, that's just like the pit I'm just telling it for you. And then we'll just play instead. So then Frank old responded on watch. What happens live and denied any of it happening at all. Garin from New Jersey wants to know what's going on with you and sunny from the view. I don't know. I said you yelled at her kid, I think she's been drinking. Or I don't know. I don't know. Don't remember that. So you're pulling up the Mariah Carey excuse hostile. Responded to Frankel with a tweet on last Thursday, saying, not surprising that a reality TV personality who yells in bullies. Little kids on a beach lies. But I have witnesses Bethany feel free to weigh in oh, and receipts Bethany, defamation and cute. So then sources spoke to page six saying that Bethany Frankel has finally met her match with a view co host. So they tell page six that sunning halston has now, blocked, Bethany Frankel has now blocked, sunny halston on social media and sources, quote are saying she's met her match sunny isn't gonna take her shit. You're not going to bully someone with a brain welcome to the real world and not the reality world. She's used to these housewives, and then a source close to Frankel said, yes, she can't bully Sonny. She's smart and a lawyer and has a brain. Her response is blocking her because what else can she do? And by the way sunny has no reason to lie about this reps for neither Ben did not come it at all. All I'm going to say is like I would love to see her in the view. I'm just I don't know necessarily any hot takes about this personally. Like there's no political bent. I'm trying to go for, like do I think Bethany Frankel would approach a group of black children and yell at them on a beach somewhere in the Hamptons, absolutely? Absolutely think that that would happen. Now do I think my take goes beyond that? No, not necessarily. However, I would just like to say that in my ideal world, housewives would always be feuding with co host of the view that feels like the way the world should be that feels like the way the world was always meant to be, and I personally want this to go on until I, I want to be reporting on this feud for the rest of manure on the view. That would be a great fight and sunny Bethany, if you wanna come on here and give your comments directly, I will also mediate one hundred percent in my everlasting bid for a seat on the view. I'm telling you lesson. I know you're I know is this your lungs one night. Career goals is to go on the view. I wanna be the wildcard. I wanna be the communist that gets a seat on the views, I think, in ten years, they'll fully have to have that on there. Like, if, if it goes how it goes, I can't wait to fucking shake some shit up and picking McCain's headband schedule. Okay. Okay. Take shake that table. I break. And then we could come back with some more bullshit. I got some matrimony news, two stories actually. Oh, where do we begin who's marrying who? Jake paul. Mongo. Sorry. Now engaged. Good love on her. Twenty first birthday, ton of mongo cutted lovely gift from Jake Paul a hundred and twenty four thousand dollars plus Mercedes Benz g wagon that also ended up being the same photos they used for their engagement on their Twitter. I suspect spun con but they engage in Jeddah engaged with the Mercedes Benz. The photo is not of him engaging to her. Even though it looks like it or I think so. That's the confusing thing. I mean so like if you go on the Instagram you can see her at the Mercedes Benz of Calabasas, which is just extremely what it would be. I'm but Greenman, first of all, yes. And matching outfits such spun the red share emoji like connection, right? There is absolutely too much. Awesome. I'm gonna pour my Synchro on you don't ever pull out red cherries, emojis or otherwise of odd cats. Do not some Incan hetero. Mirror right now. Okay. I'd rather deal without it's too much. She wrote on her Instagram never give up on your dreams kids. Posting the photo of them in front of you again. Wait comedy, all no ten post is saying, but this is Jake Paul, not Logan. It's Jake Paul. Yes. And did you know they dropped the story about those girls that had allegedly been drug? It has already nothing more. They're just dropped it evaporate, dropped it completely evaporated in all they're doing right now is talking about how they like decisions arrests trip breaking into their house, and it's like. Like we captured a violent criminal and they talked about that multiple times. It's like move on Holcombe on the photo, you deserve it. Happy birthday, baby since they have announced their engagement, though she has the sable, I'll comments on her Instagram. There was a recent video sewn up of Jake Paul teaching her, how to drive in his two hundred thousand dollars, tesla car where she didn't know how to drive it all. And didn't know what the gospel was that, that was interesting. She doesn't she just as a permit she can actually drive legal yet without as supervisor. So that's funny. And I just don't understand what it is with these Calabasas wannabes driving around mobile coal mines, like, g wagon, like what, like seven miles per gallon, like nothing more. Right. Like kinloss. Then you might as with full diesel let it melted ball of plastic together and just carry it around on or like it's literally that same also seen her literally more petrol gas directly into the ocean lake have you seen her Instagram? Lately? I'm just gonna point this, this ipad towards that. You can see I'm looking at right now. I'm. I'm legal the caption. Girl, girl, debris. She wanted to be me so bad, though, getting married young lakes, sweetie coffee. Joan summers. Also, why did they get this away from me, lots I want look at her Instagram, also though, what was the MTV awards where she wore a one dollar Bill oversize wrapped up around her. But you could still see just that little slip of the black dress underneath was just so boring. It's like no direction division. Like, what are we here for? I felt back hotline mode was like, I'm very interested in this ten like I would love to see more like this. And I was just like don't, don't indulge her Lou like donuts you early money band because there's like the metal singling around her, but doesn't really look like money ban. Unless someone like and let's think about it for a bit. Like, by the way, one dollar Bill like make it a hundred with ease watch hollow modes every red carpet video about YouTubers on red carpets, just if you ever wanted to that entertainment, or the Coachella roundups also their matrimony news, a the Slim's gonna really hurt you right here, ready. Negi. Manashian. No, no, no, no. Why wait? No fish. So mate, and no, no, no. Un's Witter in Nicki. Menaj STAN account. No. That's Nikki stop, stop it. Do let me go Lee need to just pass through, and we'll be done Nick. Okay, I'm gonna let you talk. I'm going to wash over you. I'm gonna cover Meyers. Okay, so NICKY. Manashe cops in account asked to Nikki is Kenny a fan of Nicki Menaj or does he only love own Nico, if so what's his favorite albums, Sean, but you and would you ever did a person who isn't necessarily into Nicki Menaj, but O'Neill, Nikki retweeted, and said, this is early this week last week, he won't even say the word Nikki, he has called me a Nico since I was fifteen so it's hard to change that I win date anyone because I'm about to be married to my soul mate, but that was the problem. Others are infuriated with Nicki Manashe. He doesn't give a fuck about this industry and his very protective. So we have that. And then on Queen radio Nicki Menaj, of course, talked about still going, I guess, so I see update every once apple music. I don't like I don't know what the schedule is. Because it truly is like so random. She said, on green radio, quote, we dig it our marriage licenses. I think that I have what I was striving for just happiness. It was so hard to get to get to a happy place. Now them there. I don't wanna compromise that for anyone or anything. She also talked about pregnancy rumors. She said that it's having a child for end goal by that she's not pregnant right now. I mean as a reminder to anyone who has somehow missed it. Petty. That's his last name, who she's marrying apparently is a convicted felon for first degree attempted rape, nine twenty four. The six new girl, Nikki does defend that he was fifteen she was sixteen and they're in a relationship, but, you know, like whatever you know, like she pretty much just like scoffed off is like you don't get it. You know, understand. He just spent four years in prison for the tend to break conviction, but he also served additional seven years in prison present after pleading guilty to first degree manslaughter stemming from April two thousand and two shooting and he was only released in twenty thirteen. So. Yeah, he's also in the megatrend. Video came out, recently, real quick. I don't know. I think it's just it's just so bizarre. Watching Nikki's career at this point, I honestly think everyone, I think you've I mean except for the barbs like the left, like whatever barbs are left like everyone kind of just doesn't really get what's going on here. Also, she's like still cancelled her like roll tour is like not showing up to the things because it's not selling out. And I just think that's very interesting. Going. Joan summers has left the studio guys. He's actually closed the door and she's not here. All my God. She just close the other dorm. I guess we'll have to wait on that. She's come back. She's comeback ready. I actually do have to say what you're wearing is. Well right now, I haven't I have not even noticed that shown summers is wearing a Nikki Manashe tank top with her on a Super Bowl in front of the American flag. Oh, that one specifically from which tourists that summer. Okay. You know what? I'm not going to be defamed. I will not be lied about I will, I will the pink print tour coming back. Hello hunted to stop the madness. Okay. So listen. Listen up. Why was a Nikki Manashe fan over much of my life? I was a bar. A little barb. Arbs. I was actually sent home at one point in middle school for wearing a barbs tour t shirt, where she was. I don't know in like Roman get up. And it said like. Roman. It's like little Barbone the back and little barb, just barb. But, you know, we were called many names back then, and I was sent home from school because I looked gay, according to the principal or secure repping, Hugh forgot I went to religious school in middle school end in elementary school, because my parents were trying to pray the demons out of me before I became a transsexual drug addict, communist, transsexual trick didn't work so can't beat the little bit of. And so this is a relic of a time where in high school, I was writing for a paper. And I was at the print tour to cover the madness been mania at no, this was right before pink print tour. It was like a show. She did here in the bay. And I went to like go for work. This was around the same year that I like the same few years of writing that I also covered the bangers tour, God, if you remember that is like deep deep, deep cut, you guys will never find that on the internet. Thank God for print. No could. Well, I was very rude. I'll have you know. So I still wear this shirt. I think it is still fun. I think it is ironic. No, it's not. Just like a how sure does. That's not sure you wear like I don't know like Niki Monagas version of like a Merican flag, like went to strata filter of light stint Twitter. And it's pink and she's in a bikini, and she's on a stripper pole. It's just it's, it's a it's a in the house kind of mood, and I wear it unapologetically, and I will not allow Lawson to lie to my audience and fans loved ones friends and more about my preferences. I will not be lied about your taste profile Sean not p shattered. And yes, I still listen to I endorse these strippers once a day. Absolutely. Thanks list. The strict I endorse the strip. I truly one of her best. God if she had just like done the pink print again. And like lived that out print print room in reloaded deluxe. I think we're past Roman reloaded. Yeah. I have told this story that, that my first kiss was to and Nicki Minaj song. I like public kiss first public outing in the world of factory was literally doing a given out song to the story because it's actually a good one weight. Which one is this? This was when I went to somebody else's senior prom. At a school. I didn't go to because she wanted to bring her gay friend along, even though I was like already transit that point and still no one in small town America. Knew the difference. So here's what's happened. So I went to this prom, and because I was the only gender non conforming person that anyone knew in my small town, every time at other schools, they'd find gay people, they'd be like, oh, well, we should set these two people up because like Joan is Joan this person's gay. So clearly there like a match made in heaven. Right. That is literally what small town life was in the early two thousand ten at so in late two thousands. So I go to this, like, winter wonderland themed senior dance at a school full of rich preppy kids, who I did not know and I could not afford nice clothes. And so I went in like I went and like Kohl's like dress up geared because that's all I could afford because I was working at Chucky cheese at that point. And like my parents were going to pay for my tugs at so. I had no idea that they were going to set me up and I show up. Right. And then it's like the whole like slightly gay best friend, who's transitioning with longhaired taking like senior dance photos with the fag hag that I did me and. This is where it gets weird. So we're at this dads they gay guy. Right. Who's very nice. But was the twinkie is twinkies. And you're like good love. It just wasn't for me. Don't need that. And this was right on the cusp of me deciding that I was gonna get really buff for a year because before I could fully transition. I wanted to live out like, you know, the buff homosexual lifestyle which, I showed you pictures of every those photos had me on the floor. We'll because my doctor's appointment was for the year after I graduated high school, but I had a full year in between then and I can just like beef up really quickly. Because, like I had that kind of body where, if I like lifted up a link up stack of books, I would like get, like, ten pounds of mussels on me. And so I just got super fit I like got super instigate his though, you Louis. It'll take your hyperextending your shoulders outward leg. Just went to have like the most I was such a menace. And so at that time, I only wanted to get a very specific kind of dick appointment going in my general vicinity. Right. So just like a small twinkie dude, was it really like the vibe, I was going for like, you can't crack me in have, which is what I needed in that moment ex criminal election. That was really beef. That was really what I decided before I transitioned, I was like, I'm going to have sex with all the people I can't have sex with after transition. I'm ok admitting that I you know what I am unashamed because a lot of people wanna pretend. But, like if we're going to defy gender. Why do we have to pretend like I did not have sex with, like straight men before it transitioned, I had sex with bag. It's like. That's who I was doing. And so anyways, have you ever seen them after that, after you were all bumpy transition? God, my ex literally like was that person where he broke up with me was, like you had like one too many pairs of heels in your closet for me to like fully ever want to be with you. He's like I thought you were, which wasn't really. A little clock. It's so anyways this dance. We were at this. And this guy was like really nice, but not my type, but I was also sexually frustrated, and superstar for attention, because it was from, like, already had relationships with all the losers in town. And so I ended him and it was really bad. But. Negi massages starship ships. Oh my God. It's so that era every single hop song in the country for like a million hand. I. Israel Mike, right here, and I literally looked at him. We'll give what he wants history now because I can feel. That's what you want. He was like, oh, please. Right. But it was like his first kiss, and I felt very bad, because it was not my first kiss kiss, and I literally had a girl come up to me and say, you're so brew. I was like. I was Venice. I was a menace. So. I was like, oh my God. You know, I'm an actress first and foremost, so formative. Formative years. Warming at that point. I was like, I'm going to give them everything that they want. And so we are walking out and it was raining, right? Because he was wintertime, and we're walking across the street. Right. And he's like, sitting on one side of the street with his friends, and I'm walking to my car with my friend on the other and turn around. No. And I run back across and take a photo booth photo and a pen, from one of the teachers, and I wrote my number at a stuck it in his suit pocket and was like, call me some time. And you never respond to anything. No, no dates. But it really like the thing I actually broke up with him on a hike. Oh, that was that so bad. We just like he was kissing, and we were like getting it to it and hike. The told us out. And like we have gone hiking, and we're kissing. And I just all of a sudden it came over me that I was really, really bad person. No, it was a lot of confusing situations. And you know, every Linda less than I'm sure. My interpretation. I just was looking for something he couldn't give. I mean, is that not the most like I don't even want to say like confusing period of your life like it was the last year of high school. Right. It was the summer between high school and college shots like joining team. And I was like trying to transition until I moved out of my town, and you were just like in the buff mode, and stuff. Which it'd be buffing instigate Manashe that our peak like who knows what's going to happen. Like, we don't know what the whole Nicki Minaj, is in the air that stuff thrown was running high. This is real Anna diamonds and starship time, we don't like chiseling beard. God so much changes in eight years. Let me tell my God. Oh my God. Eight years. Well, I mean team is it yeah. Just thirteen thirteenth. That's no no, no six years changes in six years, now, I'm straight married. Also. Cop. Also for the blog. I've lived many lives lost to meet meet a lesson than what many lives seen many of them to seen lozenges, witness at least three minutes, permissions. What are we even go from here? That was I have every things really quickly. Do you have anything else that can save for leftovers? One is Bella Thorne. I feel really bad about this one because the way that it was age sakes was like not very good. Is this, the Bill Thorne Whoopi Goldberg thing? No about how she taught herself how to reading count on set. Yes. So she was on the chicks in the office podcast. Which I I couldn't even be bothered. She's promoting her new book, life of a wannabe model live of a wannabe mogul mental disarray. It is her third book, but the thirst like nonfiction. Oh, no, no, no. She wants to write three books. I see that makes more sense. This is the first of three so she has previously opened up before about being dyslexic in a spot for the Disney channel. But in this interview she gave she talked about how she never learned to read, and that the only way she did originally. Learn how to read was reading her scripts, and that she never was taught how to count in. She had to learn how to count by counting her dad's. Excuse me, money. I don't know what kind of money he was making if it was the money, she was making, and he was hoping county say, because, like if she was making money, basically live. She grew up on set and then she never received a formal education, onset. She also says this quote. And didn't know how to dance. I had two left feet and I couldn't even bounce on the same rhythm. And I did a dance show I was tone deaf, and now I own a record label and signed with Sony, and I can sing fucking cappella like a bitch ass. So fuck with me. Everybody told me you're not going to be able to do that. Watch me. So this came after obviously her I don't want a feud with what be Goldberg. It was mostly just would be being old and out of touch saying that, which, you know, Bella should feel some amount of shame for releasing her nude photos ahead of alleged hacking where they said they were going to release them without her consent. And she was like, you know what fuck it. I'm gonna release them on my own. Right. That is what we were told. And she says, I feel pretty disgusting. What be doing? Everyone's seen my shit. I hope you're happy. I can only imagine all the kids who have had their shit released. And then they commit suicide show says she doesn't want to be being down by a bunch of older women for her body and sexuality by going on the view. But the view actually was like, we they didn't respond to calm. Went on whether or not she was even on the schedule for the summer. So, like, I don't know if that was just a throwaway comment about if she ever went on or if she was slated to go on a man's old. But like, I don't know this was just kind of painted to be this, like, funny, anecdote, she said, in an interview, but I was like it was really indicative of something we talk about child stars all the time. No education notification. I knew that a ready. I mean, I knew that stars had to like at that age have like tutors that meet him like the weekends or like after before hours and it's pretty much like you know, didn't really give that much of a shit. There's not much regulation. That's sad. Also. I didn't know Bill, thorn in Tanna were a couple before. Yes, I totally forgot about what wasn't it a threat? At one point winning mod son. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't wanna say quote me on that. But I feel like that was the thing. Also Jackson gave a very rare interview about Michael j I have it on my notes as well. Okay. We'll let you do want to cover that because I just so. She gave a very, very, very, very, very rare interview to the Sunday Times of London remember when she's done anything like this, like ten a really long time, and she was talking about Michael Jackson's like a c-, and she said in this interview with the Sunday Times. I love it. When I see kids, emulating him, when adults still listen to his music and just lets you know, the impact that my family has had on the world. I hope I'm not sounding arrogant in any way I'm just stating what it is. It's really all God's doing an unjust thankful for that. And when asked about the legacy specifically, she says it will continue. She didn't specifically mention the documentary or the allegations, but she did speak on again, her brother's impact on the world. And I think her comments on the lack of comments on leaving never band, or the general allegations, while unspoken can pretty much be read by the vibe of her extended family, which is that they wholeheartedly damn. The allegations can. Indem the, and I will also bring up the fact that on a red carpet after initial lawsuit surfaced in the two thousands Janet Jackson wore a t shirt on the red carpet, which we previously discussed way way back in our political episode on political statements at the Oscars. I think it was like episode six or something you remember that more than a year ago. Yeah. She wore a photo sports t- that said, number one pervert on. That was about responding to the allegations about her brother, and it was supposed to make light of the allegations so show her support. So I don't know her opinion might have changed. But I think our lack of a statement can also be chalked up to the fact and I'm not gonna get xenophobic here because this coverage is frankly Zena phobic. When they discuss her now ex husband, but I will just say, I think that because of her associations with a billionaire her speech has been not just severely limited, but she has limited it herself. Because as we know billionaires are not very open about their personal lives, nor do they want to be very open about their personal lives. And so by extension, the people who have children with them probably have to be treated the same way. So that is just all I'm going to say about that. Oh, god. I'm like, hiccup you today. But, you know. I don't want to say it, it is what it is because it's not it doesn't have to be this way. But. It is what it is in the sense that you and I were never going to break through to somebody like Janet Jackson. So now I cannot reasonably spend my time saying over her lack of common, it's just weird singlet Toya. I mean it's been a while since she said this, and she hasn't really liked talked about sense, but her fully being lake, I've seen them write the checks that the family pays to these kids and like, all that stuff. That was like this from the nineties, saying all that has not been updated since. And then everyone else in the family is like, you know, pretty much not on that card whatsoever. And I know they brought up like you know, I'm just brother Marlin saying, you know, like there's no evidence, this whole thing's bullshit, that kind of thing and just like what's new like what is new here. It's always been this. Yeah. You know what your knees is so took asunder on that, too heavily redact to that story. I told by the way. It's on the conning room, floor also confirmed, one thing, though. Yeah. In leftovers episode. There was like some blinds, and now it's like confirmed confirmed. So I can just say it, but there were blinds about Portugal, LIAM's on Atlanta breaking Dennis because of the views. And because he wanted coverage last week. It was like a week or two ago, I believe, yeah, so it's confirmed one hundred percent that push Williams has separated from Denis, among the cheating rumors and all she was not seeing. She was seen not wearing her engagement ring on the recent homicides trip I guess they're already filming season. Twelve of house was of Atlanta now. And apparently the cameras were filming during the time that they broke up and, you know, that's that on that. I mean insiders, say no one was shocked and it's really not shocking information. It's really not interesting information. I am not remotely excited for season twelve of Atlanta because capitalism. What are we going to what can we possibly do at this point to make that show interesting? While she. Broke up just in time, it's going to be like it's going to be like Beverly Hills with the first four or five episodes or anything like ooh. Maybe this'll be fun, interesting. And then I'll just be like twenty more episodes in a row like, but was nothing episodes funded. Interesting or were we just lying to ourselves in it desperate attempt to enjoy anything that has happened this season? Yes and this way now, I will not have that false sense of security when it comes as and this does mean real housewives of Dallas is about to come back. You know, hey, God or Ashley. I can't wait to watch leeann just like taking a knife. Like when episode like it's going to happen, like we're gonna get there. And also, we have Potomac so, like, whatever, like we have we have fun, and we have a good time. So in New York, satisfy everything I need, what is it that Karen says? Better help you husbands, the bar soap karma's a bit. I mean it's like you should be in jail for that carrying euchre. But she actually can say that also I think we should bring up real quick. You kind of talked about this beforehand, and some that we don't look, I'm not saying anything else less once when we're thing. Not necessarily funny. Well, so there was that piece in the cut about Donald Trump, the Bergdorf Goodman by whole thing. Some people wanted us talk about it by aeging Carol. Specifically, she brought the article vol from her take long list about everyone else that's abuse from your life, and how Donald Trump at the end of the article is the one that she, you know, obviously, it's about, but it's not really too shock into her based off what she's grown up within her world. I just say read the article if you want, I'm credibly shocked, but also not shocked at all that it's not being talked about anywhere else. It's conscious consummate popped up one day, and we all read it and react in, then we move onto the next story will get in his corruption. No, because I think people should read it, and it should just be some that we all know because the history books may not in the future. Talk about any of this. Oh. Not to end to darkly is that that will now like to have anything else here that we want to get into. I think I'm good. Good luck. I think I'm good love. Okay. I'll plug. 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Ep 4: Travel and Brain Frenzy

Creatively Complicated

47:58 min | 1 year ago

Ep 4: Travel and Brain Frenzy

"Welcome to creatively complicated where we dive into the messy -ness of creativity. I'm summer and I'm here with my co host Hate Stephanie Fujairah here <hes> actually now in Como Italy. Yeah you're traveling. I am traveling which is great because that's what we want to talk about on today's episode and I normally try to a lot of people say oh. How long have you been travelling for when they WANNA talk about my life and I'm such it's one of my pet peeves is is that when I just I'm doing my daily life? I'm not traveling and so it's funny to say now I actually I'm traveling so I don't travel all the time. I have a boring day. We live in China. That's probably a sidebar. Hey everybody plugged in advance. I got a little bit of a sore throat but you're powering through. I'm wearing drew. I'm a medicine is Espresso in Cannoli Angilletta I don't I think there's a better treatment plan to be honest. I think usually what I need to coffee shop also exciting today listeners. Maybe noticed that my sound quality is not as Shitty as it was last time. Let's go. I got a cake day. Cutie you joy. We'll now both the on same microphone intern countries yes today because I just have my my tiny travel mike. That was the beginning. It was my first Mike when I was casting using it all comes full circle so your last week adverse it. Oh yeah happy anniversary two years two years for the first one I don't. I don't know the date is the other you're the first one that's the most important anyway I have the more it down. I just don't have the many shorter calendar every now and then I go oh yeah I guess I hit anniversary for that one. I got a calendar. Oh that almost segues into what we say sorry I cut you off. No it's fine. I was going to talk about how our ask you how this trip that you've been on your euro a week into it is fair to say about a week okay. We're almost exactly a week depending on which day risk time zone we do and you have been posting some things on instagram about kind of reflecting almost on how this trip has been making you think about things and reevaluate valuate your perspective so I was hoping you might be able to elaborate on that particularly in the sense of time commitments with your creativity. Why yes I'd love to you well? There's so much going on. Actually the thing is when I step on a train specifically ugly not so much nearby but a train my brain is wild and everything I didn't even realize I've been out starts coming out and I find myself always needing to have pencil and paper and I capture those things that are going by so <hes> recently and like I sat down when we did three or four days to let it just wash over me which is very different and then I sat down and one of the lovely airbnb armaments by the way if at least the best place for Airbnb Fra so far Nice Oh God really really so I sat down and one of the apartment and I took out all of my to do this a login. Bring my laptop with me. I did bring my list by book lists of things that I want to work on some great in my life and I sat down and started making lists and I could not have cared heard less about most of the things I wanted to not just update the list but Kinda prioritize plan a little bit for June which is traveling really slows down and that kind of and I found myself looking down down at my tasks on his neighbors and being like okay I get I wanna do this again. I like a lot of these things I really couldn't get into it and that was the first time in literally two years that I wasn't like itching to get back to be able to work on this stuff so it's very strange finally being a place where I wanted a breather right right because you've just been kind of go. Go go on everything you've been doing because you have three podcasts plus your regular work plus cluster starting this so you got a lot going on yeah we W that'd be four podcast and visa job and life right and your involvement in the podcasting community around Shanghai and online so yeah you you have a full plate I would say yeah and so it really made me think oh this is great because then a lot of these things on the list can easily get shuffled around when I get back I don't I clearly not that attached. They're not letting <unk>. It's like a kind of wither away or go on the back burner eventually instead of do this June kind of thing right and were these new ideas that you're kind of letting slip away a little bit or at least putting on hold or is it things that you're working on now now that you're gonNA take a step back from the majority of them will. There's there's podcasting stuff. There's health slash medical slash movement stuff <unk> issues. The nurse like financial stuff so stuff. God has taken a back burner for a couple years because I was like well when I'm all better that it at the forty seven. We're going to get there so I need to the medical stuff forward but also the financial stuff were not for perfect health that kind of sound like okay. I need to move stuff around and then the podcasting South I've found that I was chasing hours that phrase Chinese new objects <unk>. What is it called Chinese Chine- New Object Syndrome sneak chaser okay I found that as I was hearing about more tools and things websites thanks I started to put them on to do this? Joni the last few months the services and it makes the mass on my list. Do the didn't even exist anymore like okay on the free side on the podcast side. I need to just work on go back to working on content and maybe monetization but stock Jason All the new stuff let other people figure out the new stuff and if it lasts awhile maybe come back to it but I feel like I need to stop paying so much attention <hes> coming out so I guess more life less trying to keep up with the Joneses pods his yeah that makes sense that makes sense. I think it's it's easy to get caught up in that especially when you are as involved in the community as you are and you do see people talking about these things yeah sure curiosity is is going to be there and you want to try it out but is it worth all that time for something that you may not even end up fully implementing into your own strategy definitely definitely I'm watching. I'm watching people in Italy Umbro which is a critical big for your right watching or necessity. Forget enjoy themselves. Yes bring their work everywhere with that. We rarely saw there. Were a couple of places that we saw people on top but in general when people were in take a deep we're talking to each other or they were talking to the staff. Zero standing between <unk> to drinking there is I mean people were conversing with each other in enjoyed. I feel like I kinda gone a little bit Gung Ho and compartmentalized compartmentalized my work a my social time credibly separate and I don't think that needs to happen right so yeah I don't know I don't know if this is any of posts that you were talking now. It'll just kind of ties together. The posts were just kind of the the catalyst for this discussion. I think it just all kind of aligned with the timing traveling because I have the same type of brain frenzy almost when I get on an airplane raise for I don't know what it is. It's just a combination of excitement anticipation relief because you are stepping away from your normal daily grind for a little bit and you have that opportunity to just kind of relaxing and then your brain starts doing the things that your brain does all the time anyway and we don't really always said back and let that happen. We don't always embrace that process as as much as we can also thinking I went from Shanghai. Is You really from China to Italy and you very recently what Germany to Italy and I wonder the the Joe Geographic Jolt with would be the saint like just cultures have to be that countries have to be different for the joke to be different. Yeah the difference of the culture certainly impacts the the size of the jolt. I would say because we do live so close to where we went. We went to Lake Garda which is in northern Italy. It's about a six seven hour drive from where I live in Nuremberg and because we go by car there's already a little bit of you know. It doesn't feel as far far doesn't feel like as much of a quote unquote trip when you're driving somewhere as it does in the plane so I am getting out of my daily element yes but in general things are still fairly familiar in Italy so I have kind of the relaxation Asian and the excitement of traveling but it's not this like complete shock to to the system I guess <hes> my husband Johan and I actually talked about this quite a bit when we discuss traveling and going different places in one of the the reasons that we both enjoy Hong Kong for instance so much is because it is so different from our culture here in Germany. You know you can travel around Europe you can go to the states in the cultures are different yes but they're not. They're not that different. You know if for really being right yeah so in Hong Kong it is a completely different thing. You really can't forget about work. You can forget about your daily responsibilities. You can live in the moment a lot more. I think than when you just take a weekend trip within driving distance right right that's really true as I was at a month or two ago. We were up in northern Shanghai which looked about as different from our neighborhood or anywhere we normally hang out Shanghai <unk> as humanly possible and I was like okay. This is great. This is going to be a huge detachment from above whatever it enough was in jeopardy enough kind of similar to travel within Europe. I think I mean if we go up to Stockholm home to this his family yes different in a sense but it's not so unfamiliar that it forces my brain to start processing things differently and gives me a shift in perspective so I think a bigger trip type from time to time at least once a year I think is great to kind of. I don't know just really give yourself something different to think about different different inputs into your brain. Oh yeah absolutely and it's weird because I was trying to all this is happening. I was trying to think like okay because I didn't want to. I didn't necessarily feel the poll to work on my quite a creative projects. There were things happening in my brain like what do I call these things. What do I call these ideas? I feel the need to to compartmentalize and label them do with them. So of course they just treated them instead. Okay forget it. I don't have I'm just going to law and then I've been reading this book Parsley Coriander that was recommended to be and it's about a bunch of Italians Italian wives following her husband's to sue Joe which is near Shanghai sitting here and I was like I kept putting it off putting it off because I have a hard time reading when I'm in Shanghai because I'm so busy doing doing. I'm GonNa read this in Italy because that would be perfect Italian next time I'll be Italy this great. They're super poignant moments about experts in their expat landed points that are really funny and so I'm like okay Jason Thinking about that right as I'm trying not to think about that but that's so much part of of who you are. I think you know not to take expert as an identity but kind of if very much so as and that was an the interest of the book is these women even five years on her when characters are struggling with trying to not just be Italian not just the all of the things that she's always done her whole life and for me. I've never been a quote unquote. Good American ever been a normal American so I'm just like I wonder what that's like to be so strong in your national identity that you you consciously want to break away from it and even after five years no very earn country are still pushing yourself to try to break away from it. <hes> it's fascinating to to read about someone that clear about who they are right Yep that I can understand as well as I am also not quote unquote good American. I don't particularly embrace that aspect of WHO I am and it's always so different to me when I when I do hear other experts talking about their identity as an American and how they can bring that Americanise into their culture where they moved to or how they get away from that and it's yeah for me. That's not something that I've struggled with and I could tell okay I have to bring in your recent guesting <hes> appearance on that show because I think that came in loud and clear in that <hes> what is your name again Zach Zach Ireland Ireland okay cut chit chat show and that that was so obvious when you were starting chatting him. Isn't that you once you left the U._S.. You like that's it. I'm a global soul. All right embraced it so quickly yeah. It's hard to explain not sometimes without coming off as pretentious in some way and I I actually discussed this a lot with Nicole. When I was on her show the X podcast we talked a lot about keeping keeping in touch with loved ones back home home being the passport country in this case and for me? It's just not a huge priority and it's really difficult sometimes to convey that to people without coming off as this cold hearted person it doesn't care about their family doesn't give other friends. Yes literally had this conversation last week with a friend of mine in high end. She said something. I don't even know how it came up and I said that I've been estranged. My points per a year from most of my adult life and she went but I'm such a family person and and I'm like okay like I've had to deal with this conversation. Long enough. Now is great. I'm not saying I don't like family pricing million I don't communicate. There's a really big difference there. If I had ultra loving super supportive wonderful family that I got along with I probably have a very different experience right but I didn't but yeah it is hard to have those conversations with people that have very different frank support number back home. I'm doing air quotes for home sex shooter yeah. It's it's different. It's a challenge but that's that's one of the Nice things about the expat community is there's. There's always someone out there who can relate and maybe doesn't have that strong pull towards their passport country like others do and and you can kind of okay so I'm not the only one who doesn't care about my family yeah yeah. The food aspect of that interview had me to really let me just say my husband and I can say this because you never listen to anything produce broke. That's okay actually I like that freedom but he listened to that entire episode with me and it points he he was stopping and talking about stuff and he was stopping going. She's awesome. That's great news. Zack was very understandably trying to connect stuff back to South Carolina evacuate those kinds of things when you had just taken off as global foods food zoll human not comparing it. You're not saying this more American are. How can I prefaces so people get it back home? You were just exploring Yep exactly and was just like she's just not answering it the way he watch he's going on and she's being hurt and he's like that's awesome. Let's so nice to hear here yeah. It's it's hard sometimes when you when you have these interviews I guess because you don't know necessarily what's coming. You don't really know the angle that they're hoping for and <hes> yeah whenever someone asks me about home life and the U._S.. Just I don't really have a whole lot to say about it and you just kind of have to take that shift and shift at the way you can spin it. I think that's why the first year podcasting I tried to come up with a different term because similar to the book creator dealing with the business experts in their families and stuff. There's this whole other ex pat world that had nothing to do with that kind of isolated business very the wealthy existence overseas that was not represented any rush is trying to create create people know you which is really sick 'cause like wait but there there's other population of people that are doing really really amazing overseas and not business people are. I don't know their world much writing but I know that that's not my existence needs us. It's unexpected. I need <hes> and <hes> but yeah it's it's just it's very weird. You're going to the Joepat term yeah. I liked that a lot. I liked where you were going with that. I did what kept going. I think that was about like number ten or eleven 'cause I was like okay what the sled knows what he's using that what this oh that is really different like even one of the first podcast titles of one of the first podcast was over there for a while talking about different countries outside the U._S.. Something negative and I was like I want it to be positive not realizing the World War Two connection over one or two. There's a world war connection and over. There didn't know this for a good six months. Now is like Oh oh I don't want that attach this <unk> no positive view it's not ideal not ideal at all but yes the food feud foods between part of that and when you described your ideal job feud historians thing I was like Oh. Where does that exist yeah exactly? I don't know I think I just grabbed that from some documentary about something and then that's just what little title comes up under somebody's name sometimes I feel going indeed and like type in a reversion of that phrase yeah. That's that's a good idea to come to you like type in wait. What might be looking for food historian yeah that was just super? Who'll <hes> oh I did find a quote from the book? Can maybe just short quote. Yes please do again. This isn't Parsley Coriander. This is so bad 'cause my husband has the book right now. I can't tell you his name nowy Antonella already Yep all right so this is three main characters. This is a told each chapters different characters point of view we sell we sell any of quote if she were to return to Italy away from the Stimuli and the right people she would slowly abandoned her new business and lose herself numbness. So in this part her husband was about to get transferred to a different country but she was needy just putting the finishing finishing touches on her on her new cells and she wasn't ready to relocate again. If I go back to Italy because he was going to get transferred to remain on she's like if I go back to Italy while he's Romania I go back to my old self and all of this. That's helping all of this stuff. Come out of the all of these ideas these people these connections kind of thing will go away branch to go back to her old self before yourself was developed. <hes> how crazy talk like crazy on that yeah that's fantastic. That really makes you just think actually Oh my God number of times that I even now I want to leave. Shanghai glues driving me crazy yeah exactly at that weight shoes at where I'm like if I leave right now. It will all crumble right kind of like what's happening. When I sat down with that list <hes> like I was so detached meant that I really feel like I needed to do anything right what would happen on a permanent basis originally right now? I feel like all my podcast Holloway. It's seems rationally like they wouldn't because your guests are from all over. I know so oh but now I get it. I absolutely get what you're saying. It's it's like whatever is driving you right now. Those elements would not be there if you were to leave your environment and you would have to find a new a new muse in a sense it's not true because as much as the competitiveness of Shanghai drives me crazy and the focus on money and successional Jason Creepy that's also part of the kinetic energy replace motivated Yep yeah. I think you're much less likely to become stagnant in a city like Shanghai than a small city in anywhere really I guess I mean any smaller. City is going to have naturally less energy than a large one but particularly if you're going back for example if you were to move from Shanghai go back to the U._S.. I mean what a difference that would be not a good one squishy face but I don't like that. I don't like that idea either. Although steering steering outs the water yesterday in the hills and stuff it seemed a lot like northern bay area like Sausalito Ornia. That's like I had the right job with the right amount of time off and that's even above salary for the right amount of time all Yup. I could move back to California. How troop was if I had moved back to L. but yeah no it wouldn't be the same? Do you feel more stimulated beings Nuremberg anywhere you us yeah absolutely for sure for sure. I was never content in in the states. Really I lived in South Carolina for little over thirteen years before I moved to Germany. A and I was never ever happy there was never happy in Columbia South Carolina and it wasn't until the very last year that I was there that I had actually started to get you a point where the different elements of life were are falling into place to where it was it was okay. You know we had a nice house. We had a good group of friends. I had a job that it was an office job but it wasn't the worst thing ever so everything had kind of gotten to a point where we're was okay. This is this is fine but I I never felt engaged and never felt excited and motivated and I was constantly counting down to the next trip. Abroad does all it was it was just passing the time until the summer trip to Stockholm and the Christmas trip to Stockholm the Nuremberg and it was just a depressing way to live. I was never in the moment I was always reflecting back on the trip I had returned from and eagerly awaiting the next and for me. That's no way to live I I you honestly could not pay me to go back to that city you couldn't you couldn't pay me. I was so unhappy there yeah yeah and I know about that old saying wherever wherever you go there you are yes that's true. I can't escape myself necessarily but I can put myself in surroundings that helped me <hes> want to do better that helped you be more curious and explore and Yup <unk> so much when I was moving from Harrisburg Pennsylvania which truly is the armpit of these Costa Stars. I'm concerned to put it nicely. 'cause I give it another. One Moa marked explicit but anyway anyway we'll just the armpit <unk> disgusting day to Los Angeles had a friend of Mine Harrisburg say you realize it's not gonna be different and I just looked at him. Like how the hell can it not be any different. It's very very falling. Apart national capital of a home state going you like one of the most competitive energetic big is cities in the country right and yet has its problems of course but I was just. I just looked at him even in nineteen years old I was like I just think you're wrong. When people say you know that can be set? You know wherever you go there. You are yeah but I think for some of US places in orange. Yes very much for some people. Maybe you just I've known you couldn't care less where they live and I've met them and we haven't really had much prudence avis hard to relate to those those kind of people but yeah I know they exist but I think we was places very important. Place is a motivator almost person right. Oh absolutely which is an I dealt with similar comments when I was getting ready to move off to Germany where the well you know. It's going to be different than when you're on vacation. You know it's going to be live there. Versus just visit gee. Thanks for that pro tip like Oh wow. I had no idea like that's the point. Actually I want it to be different. I want to take my vacation and make it my every day. You know it's I. I know that it's different. I know that it re days not relaxing on a beach or something like that. It's I don't I don't know what compels people to say these things other then maybe just their own confusion and inability to relate yeah and they don't want you to leave. I think what these people are trying to say is aw miss you do is like do this lacking a greedy thing. You don't WanNa go because it won't be the same I will be there but honestly if anybody's listening and you have someone that's leaving to go somewhere exciting and you are want to say this to them. Just say I miss you. Write Sir. It's so much nicer and supportive and it doesn't help anyone to say that it's going to be different than visiting. We know this. I mean the paperwork involved alone. Oh my mind you you know that that right there shuts down the everyday vacation fantasy so finders isn't sure I from Nicole's expect cast podcast. I remember her doing an entire episode on jobs and and bills and the obsession with binders jurors yes it's true it's true they love binders. Even just teaching English I had students sometimes. Ask Me if I could bring a three hole punch next time so that they could punch the paper to put into their binder. Okay I'm a stationary person and I have been known to carry on my own hole punch but I would never expect a teacher to do wow how and the schools didn't have three hundred. No Wow okay. That's I've worked in a lot of schools where they had resources in binders <unk>. Take stuff out and calm show. I like bills the reminders Oh yeah for sure very organized with the bills and all of the yeah any kind of paper you get essentially in Germany. The expectation is that we'll go into a binder yeah. I don't even know what yeah that's a level of organization that I just haven't reached and I don't. I don't see myself reaching folders. Yes I have some folders as well plastic. Ask like envelope. E kind of those are nice. Yeah we lived in Southeast Asia to things too quickly so I- legs moldy containers but didn't fit into the suitcases. Oh they're very bulky area boat. I love this phrase brain frenzy yeah. That's an accurate description of really is I think it was going to have to go on the Komo. News raises for creatively complicated. Yes glossary of terms. Yes Oh my gosh this. Is there anything you wish you had said during the expect chat the show I listened to it this morning because I figured we might chat about it here and I wanted to be prepared. I didn't cringe at it as much as I thought I would so I think that's that's it's good to listen to your own force. It is weird and also just sometimes yeah someone ask a question or makes a comment and then you come up the perfect response later and then it's too late and then yeah or maybe you say something dumb and you wish you said that but it was okay. I thought it was a good a good interview. It's a newer podcast that he's doing and I like where he's going with. It really gets into everybody's personal story with a slant of something that they're interested in or that. They're good at and John Yeah. I'm curious to see where it goes so now and he seems to really do is research like he dug into your social media yeah he was. I think looking at my website as we were talking so he was very he was very good with the questions I will say he came up with a lot of a lot of <unk> stuff on the fly just based on what I had said moments ago so good for plenty our project even though we're not out there in the world yes that's Super Great Promo. It's coming. This is episode four now. We said we wanted to record five. Live before we take it out into the world so it's it's coming. It's happening. Yes so what we've determined is that we are six people. Were brains are going all the time so we upgrade frenzy and we need change places to be stimulated uh-huh and essentially the places like people we have to keep meeting new ends and we need stable on because it's more interesting life sounds fair. Is that a fair a summary of think yeah I think so so given your your recent brain frenzy and you're a little bit of time away. How are you going to do things differently when you get back? Do you have any anything immediate that you'RE GONNA put into action yeah a need to I think I I was using this year to increase audience with the money stuff next year because I I don't like doing that. I'm going to switch it around and I'm going to now that I've had to handle. I was learning to track editing and doing stuff so I ended up going back. Double is stuff doing crazy shit that no person should do because you should be okay with good enough for now know that going to get better in the future but I decided to play with it so I did a lot of extra work the past couple months and I think now I need to own up that this is not just a hobby and then it could potentially turn into something more and I need to own that label that and start running sizing that and I think I need to frontload some S._E._O.. Courses Probably Editing graces so I make it sound better and and just like I've been subtle about recommending other people's podcasts I think I need to be a little more fishy about my own projects. <hes> yeah so I think owning it more right right and part monitoring and part of that's just hog confidence Hashtag confidence yeah yeah. That's that's that's nice. I think I think that makes a lot of sense for where you are in the process and yeah just giving yourself permission almost to take it more seriously to take it more our as this is what I'm doing. This is who I am not selling out and having cats don't relate I hate that yes more fiber bads beginning stop. I still don't even read just exploring the ways where it would make sense and talking about it in more of away while I'm just Kinda do in this because that's not true so right. Only I think yeah getting perspective getting away from preloading freeloading a few episodes and then not do anything few weeks is definitely navy realized as is bigger than I thought and I wanted to be. I like it. I like Hashtag pod joy. Yes exciting. I think it's fun to come to those realizations that we thought you kind of knew but maybe weren't ready to own. I guess is the right word for this and now yeah. Let's let's get that's exciting yeah now. If this I to nothing in the next few months or years than nothing nothing I've never got on you shouldn't because you've already been doing this for a couple of years and you know why not try to step it up and see what can happen yeah. So when was the last long big Houston you have like for long any geographically long Amar over new years we were in Hong Kong and boy on. Did you have any mind shifter prioritization urgency. She sees happened given that. It was over New Year's and that's already when a lot of people start thinking about how they should do things differently <hes> yeah of course I felt that motivation I felt really <hes> yeah brain frenzied and eager to kind of get back to work and dive into things and whether that's really stuck around I don't know but I I certainly felt that for sure because it is so geographically far and I did feel that I could step away from the regular regular day to day stuff and focus on ideas and I just I feel so alive when I am that far away and it's such a different environment and and I love that and I wish that I could figure out how to harness that energy on a more regular basis right right one of the podcasters impersonal podcast group in Shanghai as moving to Hong Kong and I was just like can I can. I be in your suitcase. Can I come with you. I hate it on the first time I went and I loved it every time after that. I was very indifferent. Actually going there the first time <hes> my husband and I were just looking at ideas of places to go and he'd bounsom decent flight prices to Hong Kong and I said Yeah Okay I mean sure it's not at the top of my list but you know I was yeah yeah and then I fell in love with it from the first hour that we were there. I just absolutely fell in love with it and now I've been three times. I'm eager to go again. I just I absolutely love that city and the way that I feel when I'm there and yeah I think about it every day. There is not as aid that goes by that. I'm not thinking about Hong Hong Kong. It's crazy. It's pretty awesome. I think I liked it the first time because I wasn't ready for how densely packed going to I was a little annoyed because I couldn't explore because I was walking slowly because it was so dense but I think I let the Mitch is because we're going for a visa run that was unexpected so there was a whole lot of bullshit attached to the first trivial but every chapter. I just like this is awesome. How come you leave your Oh? It's very it's more competitive. <hes> even where I am now oh shit. It's so so expensive I do browse apartments there just for fun sometimes and I mean even even the bottom end of things there is still way more than overpaying here in Germany and it's just you've got to get your company to sponsor you housing. Guess Not Swim Yeah. It's crazy. It's an awesome awesome city up <hes>. Do you have any big or long distance travel goons coming up not long distance. We are planning on driving through France in July. We're taking off a couple of weeks and going by car which that will be great. There's a lot of freedom in having a car you don't have to worry about security lines and liquid quantities and you can just kind of go where you want <hes> we have not actually planned out a rout though so we don't have anything booked as far as hotels or apartments so I'm not sure exactly which cities but we are looking at the Provence area area. That sounds lovely so I'm excited about that for sure. But of course I'm itching to be on an airplane so we'll look at that for we'll probably go somewhere again at the end of the year over over the holidays. It's only mid-may right now. It is yeah. There's there still time in the year to do things. What was the question we were ending on last time we had talked about? What are you going to stop doing or what are you going to not do for the next time we'd both he said we were gonNA Apologize for apologize for creativity and you're gonNA stop apologizing for not being organized or something Oh God and I did it again today? Yeah you did except I can't even move by the zoom legs. This is like our fourth or fifth call with this link and I keep putting it somewhere going now. I will know where it is and I keep losing a well. It's very simple fixed. I'm concerned. Is there anything really you WANNA. Stop apologizing for you just apologizing question <hes> yeah because it's more of a disclaimer anyway than an actual apology. I haven't done anything wrong so in a way I keep keep referring to it as apologizing for things. It's more of a disclaimer to say hey this is not as great as it should be but I am trying to tone back on that and to just accept as you said earlier in this conversation except good enough for now it will get better. You know things. Whatever we're doing is going to get better? Oh yes as far as this podcast as far as you didn't goes things to get better or they could get worse because things tend to be cyclical yep exactly so yeah. I'm just trying not to get hung up on that and just move forward and do things I'm feeling a lot of creative energy and excitement lately surrounding really this podcast and different things that I wanted to try out and it's just it's it's great so I want to kind of ride that wave of momentum for as long as I can and see where it goes yeah so very cool and future star in you have to you have to hear here. Let me be strong about this. You have to Uber Cup. We're there exists if the topics well in in this kind of Gig economy I think you can just identify yourself as that. I don't have the expertise on anything to identify as that but I think it's just is an interesting thing and with different food projects that I do want to explore more of you know maybe someday yeah we went down in the <hes> well yeah actually we did go down around at the coffee shop Glee <hes> Avi jobs starting in <hes> in northern Africa and then going over towards what we would call Middle East and then up towards. I think it started in Venice in Italy. Thanks to you too. That's a few videos later or could be very unreal incorrect facts and what I just said but that seems to be the agreed upon route be shops as we know them. That's good didn't realize that I thought it started. I know coffee didn't strike me but I thought coffeeshop culture starting annoy very cool stuff Egypt or you know it would start in the place for the copies where the coffee origin stories story started thinking of you and I was like Oh oh my gosh okay. So how do I plan to see have summer actually resources in just tell me the story later and I guess I just did that right. Yeah feed has been planted or should you call it. The bean the coffee bean ooh been brewed so as we are probably going to wrap the sub because we're at forty six ish minutes based on my audacity recording and the fact you have lunch plans and right now as you showed when you're in Italy based on what we've talked about how travel impacts creativity and inspiration and all that how are you going to use this to uncomplicate your creativity in the coming weeks I think you're right and not calling it apologizing and talked about owning it <hes> owning it. I like seeing what I'm doing in in the big picture of other projects happening around the as well but I feel like I need to take credit for the stuff that I've done <hes> and and not down a notch apologize for like even just the language UNCAST I've fallen off at studying for now I needs and but the interviews still come. I've still got questions. The podcast is still going and yet I feel like I need to apologize guest in every listener in the episode talk about my own learning all in all not even the part of podcast. That's youtube channel so like what the Hell am I right Kramer about. It says what it is low. It's a disclaimer 'cause I don't know you. You must feel like you should be more involved in that learning process and because you aren't you have that guilt towards yourself that you feel that you need to express before someone else can say Hey Stephanie. I know you're not actually practicing. You're mandarin right now. Even though that's not gonNA happen and is like my husband's released because he's like look the studying of language lead you to the Youtube Channel which led you to the podcast which led you to these interviews in the podcast if that's all all that the learning of all that learning of language as far as I got led me to the knots of progress. Maybe that's where you go or if I pick it up and may then that's fine too but at something it's still something yeah and it's a pretty big pretty cool something so I want to be self sufficient with my emotions that I really like hearing that thank you. We all need a little validation. Convince it just just owning it absolutely and I'm thinking where do you keep your goals. I know we're wrapping up. Where do you keep reminders of things that you want to do like big picture probably in my bullet journal I would say Yeah Yeah Yeah? I'm putting ever made Allen her because I was not allowed to bring any real listening vacation. I think actually that word own it phrase just all around the calendar because I feel like that's a really big wind dodging for a while. Yeah I agree with you there. I think yeah it's so easy not to own the things that we're doing which is silly because one of my biggest things that I'm all about is owning your mistakes you know if you screw up something at work or you. You make a mistake with anything really. Just you know Oh sorry. That's my bad you know this yes my mistake. I'm all about owning mistakes and not making excuses and covering things up like that but when it comes to creative creative work and personal projects and things that's when I'm you know like yeah. I'm a writer but I don't really write that much so I don't you know I'm reluctant to own that title based on my own perception of what I m putting out into the world and we it doesn't need to own it yeah yeah yeah so if I were if I said that question is what is it you said it but we I'm going to actually say the same thing as you own it. I have a dinner tomorrow night with a local friend here in town. She is travel blogger and we met up a couple of times just to kind of motivate each other and and have you know sort of an accountability buddy type thing and I I have already thought myself as date has crept closer. I have felt myself <hes> trying to have an answer ready for you. Know what have I done since the last time we met up a month ago. Oh Wow that's pressure yeah so but I'm I'm gonNA just own it. You know now. I haven't really been writing that much but you know what I have been doing been working on creating podcast. You know I've been doing other things I've been finding creative energy elsewhere and I'm fine with that yeah yeah and went out right now and new title Free Food Historian Yeah you've been branding dammit exactly out in the world so anybody can hear it. You can do stuff soaking in the <unk> creativity and planning for the next move is still some yeah absolutely yeah. I feel better about where I am creatively now that I have in a while which is a nice feeling so I'm not going to. I'm not going to go in there tomorrow.

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Start New Habits and Get Unstuck with Joe Gandarillas

Beyond the Beauty with Bobbi Brown

26:27 min | 3 months ago

Start New Habits and Get Unstuck with Joe Gandarillas

"Jarvis Masters has steadfastly maintained his innocence since he was sentenced to death almost thirty years of. Innocent people on death row newly uncovered evidence posters those claims innocence. Believe. They found that women I would not been charged. You be the judge on dear governor the PODCAST. What a dagoes like innocent on death row listen to dear governor on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Beyond the beauty is a production of IHEART radio. I'm your host Bobby Brown. So my next guest is my friend Joe, who is not only my friend? He is my life coach. My Yoga instructor. He is so multifaceted and I wanted him on the show because I. He has helped me so much in ways that I never expected i. don't have a shrink and when I was going through a tough time, he really was there not to talk about my mother my. My brother or I grew up my husband, but really to talk about what I was going through now and not only just to talk about it, but gave me really concrete things to get through it and everyone who's listening could learn things like organization how to let things go, and basically just how to change your habits, so you could live your life better and less stressful. Here's our conversation. So I wanted to I. Tell You why Joe so important to me and also the funny way. We met I asked Joe this morning. Do you remember how we met? And he said I don't and I did so. He thinks we met at a barbecue right I. Thought we met at a barbecue. We shared the same dog Walker right and I must walk by and said Hello and whatever I'm not that he didn't make a strong impression, but for one of my anniversaries, my husband said we. We weren't going to buy each other gifts. And then one day the doorbell rang on a Sunday at three o'clock, and he said Oh I bought you a gift. I'm like what he said I bought. You are interior designers to come in and help you with the house for Dukes Bar Mitzvah and the doorbell rang and it was Joanna's husband Michael. Who is one of the most talented interior designers very renowned in magazines and you guys? Did this amazing job with the first floor of my house. It was so much fun, so we became friends dinner the whole thing work together, and then I left Bobbi Brown cosmetics, and I was having a little bit of a rough time in the beginning. Joe You called me one day in, you said. Can I come over and I I been going to yoga classes a lot and I said sure, and you said I'm a life coach, and I would like to give you on me one session, and I'm like what is a life coach like. I had no idea. And you came over, and we talked, and what I learned from that day was. It's not like going to a shrink. Talk about my and it gets analyzed right put. It's about what's going on in my life now. Actually, why don't you tell everyone what a life coaches? You know a lot of times people will compare life coach to shrink. And I always say the biggest difference. I think you kind of nailed it which is. In therapy, you can go to your past, and you deal with the emotions from the past issues from the past and that's really. Useful when when we need that, it's it's something really really helpful for people, but what a life coach does is. We look at what's happening in the present moment and we look at how the present moment can affect your future. Like. Where do you WanNa? Go? What are your hopes? What are your dreams? And then what's driving you crazy? Oh, absolutely, because what's driving us. Crazy is really often the doorway in right, because those are the things that often are holding back from reaching what we want. And, so you have to kind of process you've got to look at. What are the thought processes? What are the habit the things that you can begin to shift to make positive change so you could reach a higher level of performance, but you are not just a life coach. You are a well loved way too crowded. Yoga instructor in in Montclair. You know you help. Run your husband's business year businessman. You are a student. You have your degree as a health coach. I I am but I do and now you're just tell me you're in Grad School. I. There's nothing I don't do that I don't love, but I decided to go back to school because I want to learn more, and if I'm working with people. I, WANNA learn more about human potential human behavior, and if I could learn more about that stuff than I have more tools in my own toolbox to continue to be better, I'm always thinking about leveling up. Because when I level up, I can be better for my not only for my client, but I could ultimately be better for myself. But how did you even become a life coach? How did you even know that that was something yet? You know that's a great question. And and I'll try to give you the short version of. Of A. Long Story I spent almost thirty years in the retail business I started a store manager district manager, the thing that I love the most about it was the people aspect of the job and getting people to a better level of performance in their job. I took a lot of pride in that I got burnt out. What brought me to my knees? Right was a crisis was a health crisis that that got me I had been diagnosed with a form of spinal arthritis. Then left me near nearly crippled. I was thirty four. And I. Going to the best doctors in New York City and on one drug after another. Ending up in and out of the hospital. It wasn't until I found a holistic chiropractor. That man saved my life because he changed my diet supplementation, he said I'll have you off drugs in thirty days, but I two things. I had the support and encouragement of this incredible incredible doctor, but I had. I had incredible people around me. Part of the prescription was not only what I. What I put in my body, but he handed me a rubber band group of cassette tapes cassette tapes. Were We used back? Then they're meditation tapes. And he said you're going to start meditating start doing. Doing Yoga and I laughed and I thought I can't even bend over. I'll never be able to do anything physically and I started on this journey, and he said you will teach others one day what to do, and I I'll never forget when I sat in his office, and he said that that's that's your gift. I started doing yoga and then. I went through a yoga teacher. Training Program Been Teaching Yoga for fifteen years now I remember and I'm thankful. Every time I take that seat of the teacher I teach with the heart of. Uplifting the human spirit of making people feel better when they then when they came in, and I take that job really seriously, and the ironic thing is i. get to talk to people about not only how they move their body, but I get to talk to them about their life, and I use, either we have dr we call it a Dharma talk at the beginning and I teach them a lesson. You know something either from Yoga or something from I love those moments. I, do I I remember a bunch of those moments. So in a sense I've really been. Coaching Yoga students for fifteen years, but fast forward I got this book from student was called the charge and that student her daughter. WHO's in new? York Times bestselling author called me and said listen. This guy is somebody that you of all people should go take a course with, and so I went to take course with this guy called high performance. Academy is a life coach certification. Certification Program called Certified High Performance Coaching. So would you learn from? Everybody has the potential to have higher level of performance in their life, and that as a coach you can guide and mentor somebody on how people could move their life forward in a more positive way to create better habits to create new experiences for themselves to see what what what standing in their way and so. I have learned so much about communication about presentation. What do you wish that you did better in your life? Like what have it's? Do you struggle with that? You wish you could do better. No well. That's a great question. Sometimes saying no has been a problem for me so probably setting more boundaries for myself at different times in my life has been definitely hard. You Know I. AM definitely a people pleaser. We wake up as ourselves every single day and we have to decide who we want to be. And so I check in with myself all the time and. You know if I get into guy was in a funk the other day I. Tried to make a really conscious effort to not overthink things do pass for like. They just passed complete and I. If you said to me well, what was? About the other, I don't even know. But I felt like I was in a funk, and it was when I made the decision to feel something else. I was like well. I don't need to feel. I think people don't realize that positiveness the comes out and your attitude is so in your control my Gosh, you know peop- people like to blame other people. Yeah, it's amazing to me like the world just blames everybody else for their problems. I'm looking at myself I, but even with fighting which is normal with our husbands and our scholars. Have taught me, and I have learned instead of saying you attacked me. I say I feel attacked. And, so you know we all have those feelings and you can't blame someone else for how you feel. When you start listening to how people like that that sentence? It's really common sense. I hear it in my practice all the time. They made me feel right like nobody makes you feel anything. Somebody can do something that can create a feeling right, but. We can't blame other people for the feeling and you know what I loved. One thing you said before Bob. I deal with a lot of relationship things in my practice like you talked about getting back to the feeling. Right like that's right like we. We have feelings. See often. We attack our partner. You or you didn't do that, but listen it's. How did it make you feel and usually the other person? Will you know level down a little bit I'm curious from you like like. If you were to do something different today from yourself from your mindset from from an action, if it was just from the day, yes, kind of spent too much time on my instagram post today where? where I should have taken that thirty minutes and added to my walk outside, so I I did go out to walk, but I should've walked longer i. read the paper, but I need to then walk away from Social Media and go exercise sure and so make better choices what you're saying. I will come back to instagram. I can't promise I'M GONNA. Come back to my walk. That's right. We often put aside the things that are most important and so one of the things that I do with people. Is I get them to look at water? Their habits that can lead them to a more high performing life by the way it's a shift. It's not a Redo. Its using okay dry. You're the one that told me to start drinking two glasses of water before it coffee. Every day you said do it a bunch of times. It becomes a habit. And I do it and guess what now my second son who's who has coffee. Every morning has won't get off the couch until he has its two glasses of water. So. Yeah, it's it's impactful. Right in the body needs we. Just we just slept for depends right. Five seventy hours right and most of our bodies made up of water will. We've got to give water when we get up? Yeah, I mean for your beauty. Fear held for your brain. It's it's amazing. You taught me about you to death everything. It's elimination in. It's everything. Hey I'm andy. If you don't know me, it's probably because I'm not famous, but I did start. A men's grooming company called Harry's. The idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience. I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and out of touch at Harry's. Our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars each. We care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like by a world class. German Blade Factory. Factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering one hundred percent quality guarantee. Millions of guys have already made the switch to Harry's so thank you if you're one of them, and if you're not, we hope you give us a try with this special offer. Get a Harry starter set with a five blade, Razor waited handle, Shave Gel, and a travel cover offered just three bucks plus free shipping just go to Harrys DOT COM and enter four four, four four at checkout. That's Harrys Dot com code, four, four, four four. Enjoy. Struggle with trying to to shift a new habit, but I always say if you start a new habit, and you do it for long enough. The old will get squeezed out. When you change your store, you can change your life. People get stuck in a story and people aren't know when you're willing to shift perspective, so you know. HOW DO PEOPLE GET UNSTUCK? Start with awareness. Start with what you want. What are your dreams? And then what's holding you back? What are the beliefs? What are the the habits? And how do you create new beliefs new habits? I, always say and I love I love something Wayne Dyer used to. He would get out of bed in the morning and he'd put his feet on the ground. He'd say thank you, thank you, thank you and I start my day like that and I think like we talking earlier. I say okay. How do own show up today? Like who do I WANNA BE? And then you know the the other things that people can do to get unstuck is have a ritual like what's your. What's your morning ritual? You talked about that earlier. You know whether that's you know knowing what you have to do for the day, but whether it's you know for me. My my morning ritual, go right in and I meditate for at least thirty minutes, sometimes an hour and a half, and to really depends on the day, but what are the rituals? We have to to put us into a better state of mind a double express. With one capital of half-and-half, though sometimes I do coconut milk depending. If I think I shouldn't have dairy, but that's after my water after I've left the dog out and fed the dog, said hello to my husband and read the New York Post. That is what I do first thing in the morning I am going to work on then closing that IPAD and going out to do my exercise before I answer emails or go on social media. So that's a commitment you're. You're willing willing to make an. I'm not right now. Yes, starting right now, great starting right now, and I'll tomorrow of. Before not. So see, you've already created something new that you can. You can begin to shift, and that's what I WANNA make. It really obvious for people like all nuts. What coaching is right like we ask the question. You say okay. Well I have a goal. I'd like to have more of this and not feel like I'm running, and then we go well. If there was something else, you could do to not feel like you were in such a rush. What would be one more thing that you would be willing to try schiff my morning by a half hour. set an alarm and just give myself. A half hour more of time, which I will use that time, not just for exercising or my morning ritual, but to give myself more time to put my because I literally come to work with the disaster of a bag that I pour it on the desk, and as we're having our first meeting I-, reorganize it because I didn't do it the night before. Just came up with two things. Oh, my God I'm going to be so officials viewpoint you got. You're really showing your viewers like how how like how we process and how you process things. So, what's a real common thing that people struggle with I think some of the most common things people struggle with him why they come to me are usually can be categorized into four areas. Something to do with their career. Something to do with their health. Something to do with the relationship. Something to do with their emotions or combination of those I, and and I look at the I look at all of this very holistically So what do you? What is the number? One thing people struggle with for their health exercising at exercising's number one finding the time that you, so you brought up a really really good point and number two making good food choices. It's amazing to me how people don't want to give things up. They say I can't. They need that Frappuccino or that. CARBS I would say probably is probably one of the number one things. What's the goal here? You're complaining about how you feel. You're complaining about your weight, so say okay, so you want to You want to feel better. You WANNA lose weight. Okay, so, what's what's something you could do and they might say boy. Maybe I could give up carbs all right. How are you going to do that? Like. What's one thing he did? What's going to happen when when you go to a party and You know, there's bread and Pasta and all of that, but then do you give them tips like what what I do is I make sure eat before I go. Fill myself up before he goes when I get there. I can make good choices, and it's why I made that one afternoon chocolate product, so I wouldn't touch the bread busk, which is amazing, so yes, so we ultimately get to that I kind of take them through the process of all right. Here's the goal. Here's the dream. Here's your vision now. What's standing in your way? The awareness is like the number one piece it's. It's in personal development I think. Think. Being aware is the biggest thing that's going to get you to where you want to be. So it starts with an awareness, and then I try to get them to come up with ways that they can do it so I have these icebreaker questions I actually liked them at the end. Because I think you'll be a little bit more relaxed, so here goes. What's the last thing you ate the last thing I was dinner last night and I had. A, Chicken, Burger. I had a cup of steamed Broccoli and I had a cup of roasted vegetables, and did you do put any salt butter O- on vegetables I put salt and garlic, and all of I tossed the after steam the Broccoli. I tossed it in garlic, and all of a little tablespoon of olive oil, and he deserved or any cocktail I of glass of wine red, wine, last night, K-. I'm still amazed that. At my last dancing birthday party I danced with you and your husband. You guys were on a cleanse. I was shit faced. You didn't have a drink and you had as much fun as I. Did you know? Because as I remember and I remember thinking I. Don't know if I'm GonNa like I felt I. Think I was a little tired to cleanse. You know what when you get around. People you you like that is a great way to increase your energy. Surround yourself with people you love and. Who We closed that party down did listen I like a good glass of wine see i. don't drink wine. Because one glass of wine leads me to and sometimes two and a half, and then all hell's going to break meaning like I'm GonNa? Open my cabinets and look for something junkie to eat and I don't have anything junkie, so I will eat healthy thing in my house and get sick I. Get that one can lead to to like definitely aware of that myself, so let's what the last workout you did Let's see the last workout I did. Is I went to the gym yesterday morning? I did a fifteen minute workout. And did chest and back, and then arms and shoulders I kinda tried to get in a lot. What's the last thing you googled I? Just finished my first course in college so I probably I had probably Google search something to do my lost bit of research something play therapy. It was it had to do with a child counseling. What is the last thing you said? said to someone on the phone I definitely spoke with my significant other last night. He was on his way home from a big meeting. He had in the city and I told him I loved him What's the last thing you bought pair of Adidas sneakers that I saw some guy in the airport in Italy have a few weeks ago. Their camouflage and Trying not to be so obvious, I took a picture of the sneakers and know long story short. The the Guy I had. We were in Lake Como. And we got on the plane, and the guy was sitting across from us, he and his wife, and the little baby, and I said I hope I. Don't know if you saw me taking a picture of your sneakers, but I love them. and. He said I don't think you remember me and I said no, he goes. You stopped me in Lake. Como taking a picture. My wife and baby and you said can I take a picture of you saw? Thought. Picture together. Funding I did I just bought. A. Love that is so funny and the last one is. What's your favorite splurge meal? You know a love. A good pasta meal I have to be honest and when I when I was in Italy. I was telling you this earlier. Had Pasta almost every day like I? Love Pasta has anyone ever said? Don't like Pasta. No, I don't like Pasta I mean, but there's not much you could put on that I won't like I. Will Try everything I'm so. Yeah. A Pasta would be my big splurge. Listen. I like a good piece of pizza once in a while till. I really can't just do one piece no me neither a half a PI. I'm really happy and I hate to tell you that either a glass of wine or sometimes a diet coke which is. I know. One one bad. Yeah right here I. don't eat pizza, so it's not an issue. But I do. Think and yes I could have a coke, but I go for the Diet Coke. I don't know why and I think it's more medicinal because I know. I'm GONNA be sick. And that will cut through all the stuff I. Don't know why but I don't drink diet. Soda. Listen we tell ourselves stories for us in that one more. Everyone things that anyone Oprah to Dr Oz to Dr. Phil, whoever else watched, has it all together? We're all working on stuff God well. That's what I think I think. That's one of the things. I love about this practice and I'd loved some of the questions you asked this. I'm I'm working on stuff, too. I I could I. Could you know I was definitely challenged when I started school I felt so unorganized and I take great pride in being productive. I really struggled the first week. I didn't how to get it all done I. Actually called the professor and I was like I. Don't know if I could do this, but it was a really. It was a great lesson for me because I looked at the entire some like semester's worth of worker, the five weeks worth of work. And I felt overwhelmed and I for that Short period of time allowed that to get the best of me. And I was like okay. Your solution oriented guy so I called the professor had a great talk, and she said Lemme. Break it down and I'm thinking I do this for a living and I realized that and I and I. I do this with people every day. Sometimes the task at hand whether it's something you want to fix in your career, your relationship emotionally something you want to fix with your health feels too big overwhelming, but when we break it down into segments, and you do bits at a time, it's so much more realistic, and then once you get into a new rhythm piece of cake piece of cake. ACED that class. Oh And so our listeners, how do they? How do they know more about you? How do they follow you? How do they get in touch with you? You can find me on Instagram at Joe Gander release it's J.. O. E. G., A. N. D. A. R. I L. L. A. S.. You can find me on facebook. You can also find me you can. You can email. Email me I have a website as well. WWW DOT my name. JOE GUERRILLAS DOT COM accessible. We meet, we talk. We see for kind of in Sync I. Go over I. We look at what you want what your goals are. 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April 27, 2020: Mussolini Captured

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13:28 min | 5 months ago

April 27, 2020: Mussolini Captured

"The today is Monday April twenty seventh twenty twenty on this day in nineteen forty. Five Italian dictator Benito. Mussolini was arrested in northern Italy. It was the beginning of the end for the longest ruling fascist of the World War. Two era welcome to today in true crime. A podcast original due to the graphic nature of today's crimes listener discretion is advised extreme. Caution is advised for listeners under thirteen. Today we're covering the Italian rebels who blockaded the northern route out of Italy as the country fell to allied forces and in the process captured Italian dictator and war criminal Benito Mussolini. Let's go back to the morning of April twenty seventh nineteen forty five. Bano hugged his coat tightly around his body as he watched the morning. Sun Crest over the horizon. He was grateful to see its arrival late. April had a way of tricking. You forgetting that. It wasn't summer yet next. He needed some coffee then to the command tent or Bono was a member of the Italian resistance but that meant different things to different people. They were mismatched band of Communists. Socialists and former fascists all trying to ensure that Italy returned to peace. Were Bono personally. Didn't care what form the government in Italy took the war. He just wanted this all to be over. It was then that one of the volunteers ran up to the tent. A German convoy was heading up the road. No weapons as far as they could see but lots of soldiers or Bono side and rubbed his brow. He wanted to keep a battle from breaking out in the village. This would have to be handled. Delicately Peer Bellini Della Stella was awoken from his slumber by a harsh knock at his door the cold nipped at him as he threw off his blanket. Worry gripped his heart as he wondered what might warrant this intrusion. It was rebuttal. No his second in command among the Italian rebels with news German sir. Dozens of trucks coming up the road to Dongo now. It was pierce. Turn to CY. But he knew the men looked to him for action he gave his order. Stop Them Block the road and take stock of WHO and what. They're trying to get across the border as Rubino scrambled to carry out his commands. Peer looked for his pants later. That morning Pierre arrived on the scene to find that his men had not been exaggerating. The convoy was large with dozens of trucks as well as civilian coaches. No one was shooting yet. That was a good start. Walking up from the lead truck with or Bono was a German officer his long coat and stately hat failing to hide the fact that he was tired and scared were Bano introduced him. As a former member of the loof volva named Shelley Mayer Schaumeyer immediately started in speaking with a heavy accent. He claimed that they meant the Italians. No harm they were simply trying to return to their home country so that they might protect it from the Americans French and Russians Pierre smirked wondering why he should allow such thing to pass. Schaumeyer said my government has come to an agreement with your government. Pierre pretended not to be given pause by this it was possible that the insurgents in Milan or Rome had decided to let them pass. Maybe to avoid any bloodshed but right now in the north it was anarchy. There were half a dozen different political parties. One might swear allegiance to authority depended on who you were speaking with. Peer decided to stick to his guns. His authority was all that could be counted on right now and he wasn't about to leave. The Germans escaped north if they had any damned fascist with them for Italy. To heal the fascists needed to be held accountable. So Pierre lied saying well I have orders to keep anyone from passing. But I might be willing to let you go if you let us. Search your convoy as the two began to argue or Bano more curious by the minute wandered off to start checking in on the trucks himself. No one was gonNA fuss over just one man peaking his head in here and there. The German trucks were loaded with antiaircraft and machine guns pistols to. He clenched his jaw. This could get ugly fast if peer didn't let them through at the sound of someone whistling or Bono looked back and saw Piere motioning for him to lead the men in search of the convoy. The German leader had acquiesced no doubt realizing he'd be the first to die in a firefight. The Italian partisans began moving from car to car asking to see identification from each German soldier. The morning stretched into the afternoon as Rubino began to near the point in the convoy where the trucks ended and the civilian cars began. He heard excited yell from one of his men. Further down the line. We've got the big bastard. The man exclaimed Bano scrunched his face in amusement unclear on what the man meant when he neared the truck in question he looked inside to see a few soldiers looking nervous and one slumped over beneath a blanket. Were Bono pointed to the man and asked what's wrong with him anxiously. They tried to get or Bano to back off saying he's just drunk. He's just drunk. Were Bono rolled his eyes and asked if the man had his papers but they just kept repeating the same thing growing frustrated after a full day of investigating trucks or Bono pushed forward and reached for the blanket covering the drunk man as he ripped it off. His Mouth. Dropped Open in shock. They're laying on his side. Machine gun tucked between his legs was none other than Benito Mussolini himself next will discuss the fallout from the arrest. Now back to the story when Benito Mussolini was captured on April Twenty Seventh. Nineteen forty five. The Italian partisans could hardly believe their luck. Northern Italy was in chaos to run into none other than ill do. J. Himself was like finding a needle in a haystack. Mussalini had been defeated long before this. He was betrayed by his own. Fascist government in July nineteen forty three and shortly thereafter was installed as a puppet dictator in northern Italy by Adolf Hitler himself all he could do throughout nineteen forty four and early. Nineteen forty-five was give impassioned speeches and hope that the Germans didn't lose the war. But he was a coward and hypocrite and while he was arguing for the merits of fascism he was secretly sending emissaries to negotiate his surrender with the Americans to he was also in constant pain plagued by stress induced ulcers that according to him would cripple an ox and no wonder he knew a reckoning was coming over the course of his rule he had imprisoned and killed thousands of political opponents. He had chosen to enter the war and ally with Hitler he had turned Italy into little more than a vassal to the Nazis and he had agreed to deport thousands of Italian Jews to concentration camps by April. Nineteen forty five. The consequences of these actions had sunk in. He seemed completely resigned to his fate. Those who were around him said there was little left of the fiery orator who had talked his way into power according to the biography. Mussalini by RJB Bosworth most believed that. Mussalini was suffering from a severe depression that berged on mental breakdown. It was perhaps for this reason that he didn't make any plans for escape. From Italy. On April twenty fifth he met with members of the Socialist Party to discuss a potential surrender but nothing came of it by the next day. It seemed that his only other option was to try and flee north with the remaining Nazis in his vicinity. He rather callously left his wife and children behind while inviting his mistress Claretta and her brother Marcello to flee with him. It's unclear exactly how this decision came about. Though to be fair it may have been the result of the two women's differing points of view. Mussolini's wife Raquel. Kelly had always had a sharp political mind and had helped her husband throughout his career. She may have known the smarter move was to wait in the fascist friendly territory until the allies arrived and took them into military custody clarita meanwhile had no such instincts and merely wanted to be with her man. Collapsing access or no Mussolini's disguise was minimal with a large German overcoat wrapped around his body and a metal German helmet on his head. The great irony was that no matter what he war he would surely be recognized. He'd spent much of his rule plastering his visage. All over Italy. The trucks made it within miles of the border but were stopped at Lake. Como north of Milan Mussolini's anxiety must have been tremendous as he waited to see if he would be discovered. It was a process that took hours as every truck was searched. The convoy was even moved at one point further into the village so that both armies would be less exposed to angry third parties but of course eventually Mussalini was recognized. He tried to hide beneath a blanket but once found he put up no resistance. In fact according to World War Two scholar John Toland it was Mussalini. Who ADMITTED THAT? Clarita was part of the convoy. Up until that point. She'd successfully disguised herself as a Spanish refugee. The next day both were executed by firing squad. Their bodies were hung in a square in Milan beaten and spat on. Thanks FOR LISTENING TO TODAY. True Crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson. If you enjoyed this story. Check out our dictators episode covering Mussolini's rise and fall today in true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcast originals. Like today in true crime for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar at podcast for grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network? We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today in true crime was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original it is executive produced by Max Cutler. Sound design by one Boorda with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carl Madden and Freddie. 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S7: April Fooled: April 27, 2020: Mussolini Captured

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13:56 min | 5 months ago

S7: April Fooled: April 27, 2020: Mussolini Captured

"Today's episode features a famous dictator a planned escape and a peculiar disguise. I'm referring to the arrest of Benito Mussolini from our Daily Series. Today and true crime. If you'd like to hear more of history's most shocking. True crime events tune into today in true crime every day. Freon spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. In the meantime enjoy today is Monday April twenty seventh twenty twenty on this day in nineteen forty five Italian dictator Benito. Mussolini was arrested in northern Italy. It was the beginning of the end for the longest ruling fascist of the world war. Two era welcome today in true crime. Apar- cast original due to the graphic nature of today's crimes listener. Discretion is advised extreme. Caution is advised for listeners. Under thirteen today were covering the Italian rebels who blockaded the northern route out of Italy as the country fell to allied forces and in the process captured Italian dictator and war criminal Benito Mussolini. Let's go back to the morning of April twenty seventh nineteen forty five. Bano hugged his coat tightly around his body as he watched the morning. Sun Crest over the horizon. He was grateful to see its arrival late. April had a way of tricking you into forgetting that. It wasn't summer yet next. He needed some coffee then to the command tent or Bono was a member of the Italian resistance but that meant different things to different people. They were mismatched band of Communists. Socialists and former fascists all trying to ensure that Italy returned to peace or Bono personally. Didn't care what form the government in Italy took after the war? He just wanted this all to be over. It was then that one of the volunteers ran up to the tent. A German convoy was heading up the road no weapons as far as they could see but lots of soldiers or Bono side and rubbed his brow. He wanted to keep battle from breaking out in the village. This would have to be handled. Delicately Peer Bellini Deli Stella was awoken from his slumber by a harsh knock at his door the cold nipped at him as he threw off his blanket. Worry gripped his heart as he wondered. What might warrant this intrusion. It was rebuttal. No his second in command among the Italian rebels with news German sir. Dozens of trucks coming up the road to Dongo now. It was pierced. Turn to CY. But he knew the men looked to him for action he gave his order. Stop Them Block the road and take full stock of WHO and what. They're trying to get across the border as Rubino scrambled to carry out his commands. Pierre looked for his pants later. That morning Pierre arrived on the scene to find that his men had not been exaggerating. The convoy was large with dozens of trucks as well as civilian coaches. No one was shooting yet. That was a good start. Walking up from the lead truck with or Bono was a German officer his long coat and stately hat failing to hide the fact that he was tired and scared or Bono introduced him as a former member of the loop. Volva named Shull Meyer. Schaumeyer immediately started in speaking with a heavy accent. He claimed that they meant the Italians. No harm they were simply trying to return to their home country. So that they might protect from the Americans French and Russians Pierre smirked wondering why he should allow such a thing to pass. Show Meyer said. My government has come to an agreement with your government. Peer pretended not to be given paused by this. It was possible that the insurgents in Milan or Rome had decided to let them pass. Maybe to avoid any bloodshed but right now in the north it was anarchy. There were half a dozen different political parties. One might swear allegiance to authority depended on who you were speaking with. Pierre decided to stick to his guns his authority was all that could be counted on right now and he wasn't about to let the Germans escaped north if they had any damned fascist with them for Italy to heal. The Fascists. Needed to be held accountable. So Pierre lied saying well I have orders to keep anyone from passing. But I might be willing to let you go if you let us. Search your convoy as the two began to argue her. Bano more curious by the minute wandered off to start checking in on the trucks himself. No one was gonNA fuss over just one man peaking his head in here and there. The German trucks were loaded with anti aircraft and machine guns pistols to. He clenched his jaw. This could get ugly fast if peer didn't let them through at the sound of someone whistling or Bono looked back and saw Pierre motioning for him to lead the men in a search of the convoy the German leader had acquiesced no doubt realizing he'd be the first to die in a firefight. The Italian partisans began moving from car to car asking to see identification from each German soldier. The morning stretched into the afternoon. As we're Bono began to near the point in the convoy where the trucks ended and the civilian cars began. He heard an excited yell from one of his men. Further down the line. We've got the big bastard. The man exclaimed. We're Bono scrunched. His face in amusement unclear on what the man meant when he neared the truck in question he looked inside to see a few soldiers looking nervous and one slumped over beneath a blanket. Were Bono pointed to the man and asked what's wrong with him anxiously. They tried to get or Bono to back off saying he's just drunk. He's just drunk. Were Bano rolled his eyes and asked if the man had his papers but they just kept repeating the same thing growing frustrated after a full day of investigating trucks or Bano pushed forward and reached for the blanket covering the drunk man as he ripped it off. His Mouth. Dropped Open in shock. They're laying on his side. Machine gun tucked between his legs was none other at then. Benito Mussolini himself next will discuss the fallout from the arrest now back to the story when Benito Mussolini was captured on April twenty seventh nineteen forty five. The Italian partisans could hardly believe their luck. Northern Italy was in chaos to run into none other than ill do. J. Himself was like finding a needle in a haystack. Mussalini had been defeated long before this. He was betrayed by his own. Fascist government in July nineteen forty-three and shortly thereafter was installed as a puppet dictator in northern Italy by Adolf Hitler himself all he could do throughout nineteen forty four and early. Nineteen forty-five was give impassioned speeches and hope that the Germans didn't lose the war. But he was a coward and hypocrite and while he was arguing for the merits of fascism. He was secretly sending emissaries to negotiate his surrender with the Americans to he was also in constant pain plagued by stress induced ulcers that according to him would cripple an ox and no wonder he knew a reckoning was coming over the course of his rule he had imprisoned and killed thousands of political opponents. He had chosen to enter the war and ally with Hitler. He had turned Italy into little more than a vassal to the Nazis and he had agreed to deport thousands of Italian Jews to concentration camps by April. Nineteen forty five. The consequences of these actions had sunk in. He seemed completely resigned to his fate. Those who are around him said there was little left of the fiery orator who had talked his way into power according to the biography. Mussalini by RJB Bosworth most believed that. Mussalini was suffering from severe depression that berged on mental breakdown. It was perhaps for this reason that he didn't make any plans for escape. From Italy. On April twenty fifth he met with members of the Socialist Party to discuss a potential surrender but nothing came of it by the next day. It seemed that his only other option was to try and flee north with the remaining Nazis in his vicinity. He rather callously left his wife and children behind while inviting his mistress Claretta and her brother Marcello to flee with him. It's unclear exactly how this decision came about. Though to be fair it may have been the result of the two women's differing points of view Mussolini's wife Raquel had always had sharp political mind and had helped her husband throughout his career. She may have known that the smarter move was to wait in the fascist friendly territory until the allies arrived and took them into military CUSTODY CLARITA. Meanwhile had no such instincts and merely wanted to be with her man. Collapsing access or no Mussolini's disguise was minimal with a large German overcoat wrapped around his body and a metal German helmet on his head. The great irony was that no matter what he wore he would surely be recognized. He'd spent much of his rule plastering his visage. All over Italy. The trucks made it within miles of the border. But we're stopped at Lake Como north of Milan Mussolini's anxiety must have been tremendous as he waited to see if he would be discovered. It was a process that took hours as every truck was searched. The convoy was even moved at one point further into the village so that both armies would be less exposed to angry third parties but of course eventually Mussalini was recognized. He tried to hide beneath a blanket but once found he put up no resistance. In fact according to World War Two scholar John Toland it was Mussalini. Who ADMITTED THAT? Clarita was part of the convoy. Up until that point. She'd successfully disguised herself as a Spanish refugee. The next day both were executed by firing squad. Their bodies were hung in a square in the lawn beaten and spat on. Thanks for listening today and true crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson. If you enjoyed this story. Checkout our dictators episode covering Mussolini's rise and fall today in true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcast originals. Like today true crime for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar at podcast. Grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network? 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"The. What's that? It's wedding bells because someone's getting married Ou who donatella satchy and Paul back okay. Am I invited? Of course everyone is because it's our podcast and we can invite anyone we want fair point but you'll have to travel back in time about twenty five years or just use your imagination. It's March nineteen eighty-three and the for Saatchi family is crowded into a teeny tiny stone church in the port village of Mantra. The church is on the western shore of Lake Como and the location is the definition of an Italian paradise a gorgeous lake surrounded by hilly vineyards all live trees, wisteria vines, and Alpine peaks Oh man I'm way under dressed I'm still in my PJ's will no one notices they're looking at the bride she enters the church they're dying to know what and who she's wearing. She's an address that Johnny made just for her it's off white silk with just a hint of yellow. It's simple rats across her bust drops into a wide band in the middle and seamlessly blends into an exquisitely tailored skirt. Like everything Johnny does he put his heart and soul into this stress? An outwardly he's thrilled for the couple but privately, he's not so sure it'll last according to the book, the House of Saatchi. He told one of his seamstresses I don't know why we're going to all this trouble. They'll split within a couple of years I hope not they make such a cute couple I know they really Do So donatella makes her way down the aisle, her platinum blonde hair cascading behind when she reaches the altar she stops and turns to face the guests and that's when she notices johnny is staring at her and waving his arms like a wild man. Oh, my God he's telling her not to get married. Isn't he worse? Apparently, the train of her dress isn't flowing as freely as it should. Somehow folded up on itself, he points at her skirt. So donatella dutifully bends over to fan out her train, and that's when she inadvertently shows the wedding guests her cleavage. Johnny is frantic at this point mouthing no no finally, she gets it all sorted out and gets the nod of approval from her brother, and now she can finally get married. After the wedding everyone beams and Johnny presents his gift. Lemon. Gus An endless supply of matching socks close. But no, it's an incredible apartment in one of Milan's swankiest neighborhoods. He's decorated himself right down to the marriage I. Think they're just called beds while I'm sure it's top line once he sinks his teeth into a project no matter what it is it consumes him. Every detail has to be just. So he's a perfectionist with his homes, his runway shows and has every last design, which means he's not always easiest guy to work for, and while Donna knows what he's lake they are related after all when he steps up her involvement at the label, she's GonNa find out firsthand just how hard that can be with greater responsibility comes greater expectations, and for Donatella, Johnny Bigger Egos and monster fights zoo. We get support from book of the month. Book of the month is a super popular and fast-growing online book service for readers, and we are both big big readers, huge readers. But the month mission is to promote new and emerging authors and help readers discover they love their team vets, hundreds of books, each month and gives readers their choice from a curated selection of new early release titles. So you can spend more time reading and less time researching I love that because I get really overwhelmed when I have to make any sort of decision I'm a libra so same. 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As his star rises sodas the pressure he puts on himself and on everyone around him including his sister and Muse donatella. This is episode to the First Sachi. Experience. It's nineteen eighty-four and Milan Gianni and Donatella the Saatchi Chile, which is a fancy way of saying his studio models sip Diet Cokes, puff cigarettes as they try on their outfits it's the day before a show. donatella points a manicured finger toward a models ballet flats hideous absolutely hideous. You can't have them wearing flats it will ruin the entire look of the close. Wow remember this is a woman who loves hill so much even her slippers are stilettos she has over forty pairs of candy-colored meals for one season alone. This shoe battle between Johnny Donatella has been going on for months and it's epic. She wants the models and heels Johnny prefers flats. The seamstresses in models are used to these two arguing. So they just do their thing while donatella johnny verbally. Duke it out. They know Johnny will eventually win. He always does after all he's the boss, but DONATELLO's come a long way from the Caterpillar who moved to Milan five years ago. Now, she's transformed herself into a big extravagant butterfly. She lightens her hair even more. She brings in a personal trainer back before personal trainers or even a thing she goes sexier and boulder with her clothes and she embraces what a few little tricks can do for the face like she wears five pairs of fake eyelashes at a time on each I. Yes. It's like a Vegas showgirl meets alluring chanteuse and it works. In her early days for Saatchi Johnny on hair and makeup duty for the models. He always loved her luck and Donatella Has a vision she basically turns all of the models into many donatello's. It wows the fashion crowd and it pretty much defines for Sachi's look sounds like the look of the eighties it was like, go big or go home on your roller skate. She was so good at it that Johnny puts are in charge of Sasha's accessories and turns out she's got an eye for that too. She goes big and bold sky high skinny heels clam elbow length gloves with jewels and little crystals. Johnny is thrilled pretty soon. Donatella job is to give her opinions on everything which comes with some pressure because Johnny is an Lubar perfectionist Donatella do you prefer -til or navy? Oh, for sure. Donatella should journalists with the bright yellow skirt or black sequence. Black sequence wait is this a trick question donatella what color for the bracelets aw clutch auto. Both. Wrong. Okay. I don't like this quiz. It's fun for done Johnny. They're alive with creation and opinions, and they have this incredible way of bouncing off each other. They talk so fast no one else even understand what they're saying except when Johnny starts to yell which just scares people. So they yes, him to death and stay out of his way. But Donna tell US stands her ground. Of course, Johnny is the boss and sometimes overrides her, which can be frustrating because donatella knows her instincts are spot on especially when it comes to shoes but it's an argument Johnny is tired of having and today he shuts down he's like flats and that's it case closed. Inside Donatello's seething and when she gets up the next day, she has a plan. On, the day of the show Janis. So distracted by the millions of last minute details, he hasn't even had time for his double espresso. It's the usual mayhem backstage models and assistance and people sewing and painting and hemming donatella somewhere. But he hasn't seen her and more than an hour when it's time to begin johnny slips into a seat in the front row as the music starts to pulse eight and here come the first group of models on the catwalk. Their hair is piled high. The shapes of the dresses perfectly tailored accessories are spot on and their shoes are. Wait what in the world is going on the models are all wearing high heels Johnny breaks out in a sweat where other flats, more models, stride out more high heels, what the he'll is happening. Except deep down he knows donatella. Right before the models, the runway donatella swapped out all the flats for heels every single pair. When they get back to the studio after the show Giannis Fuming, how dare you go behind my back into exactly what I told you not to do Tell like a major look so much better and you know it Giannis. So furious, he kicks her out of the studio. Later when he's cooled down, he realizes she was right. They did actually look leaner and Edgier. The next day when she comes in, he pulls her aside I made a mistake. He says, you're right about the shoes donatella is like John I told you and he says you didn't push enough. Johnny's right hand woman is an easy. He has a lot of demands and Dinatale is expected to be on call twenty, four, seven, it's exhausting. But she knows she's the only one who can push him in ways. No one else does. You need to take risks. You can't rest on your laurels. She's always encouraging johnny to think bigger edgier cut your skirts shorter show more leg. It infuriates Johnny he's the designer. He's the one who knows fashion, but she never backs down and he keeps asking her opinion. Johnny may be the creative genius, but it's Donatello's prodding questions and opinions always make the designs just a little bit better. It's a unique collaboration and the business starts to soar money is coming in and Johnny gets to work spending it. Imagine. It's nineteen, eighty five and you're in Lake Como Italy I'm putting on the Halter dress I got at target or twenty two dollars while it's actually December. Okay. Their snow on the pine trees and covering all the country roads and also putting on a park and mittens good move because we're going to Villa Fontana, l.. A. Three story mansion that belongs to Johnny Verse Touchy This Place Is. Insane. A giant terrace overlooking the lake perfectly manicured hedges some Gurgling fountains with Medusa heads for waterspouts. It looks like someone painted and dropped it on a postcard inside. It's pure Johnny twenty-seven rooms polished marble floors, deep red furniture hundreds of neoclassical oil paintings on the walls and an all pink bedroom for the Lady of the House on Atallah Yep for Christmas. This year Johnny has imported a huge for tree from Norway underneath, our piles of presents for everyone but the biggest present this year Donatello's news she starting her own line she is except it's not a clothing line. DONATELLA pregnant. A new sake is about to come into the world's and what better place to celebrate than a fabulous mansion on the lake. Now once the holidays are over the. Are. Right back at work to design the spring line including Donatella who loves working and smoking and wearing high heels, which she does pretty much right up until the day she gives birth June thirtieth nineteen eighty-six. Is it a girl or a boy, a girl and Johnny helps her and Paul pick out the name Allegra. That's beautiful. A baby in the family is always something to celebrate especially in Italian culture and Johnny becomes a doting obsessive uncle. He Calls Allegra his print Shapada which means princess in Italian and he starts bringing to fashion shows when she's barely a month old he loves showing her off Donatella gets it family is everything. In Nineteen eighty-six. is working in his office above the restocked store and Milan. When he gets a call from the men's shop below seniority, it's the manager from downstairs. What do you need? Well, Seniority Elton John is here the rocket man yes, and he wants to meet you Johnny. Doesn't even say by he just hangs up the phone and runs downstairs. Johnny rushes into the shop. He can barely contain his excitement close the store he whispers to the manager. Elton must be able to shop with no one bothering him or even looking at him we must make him feel at home. Johnny introduces himself to Alton just thrilled to meet. Johnny. He's been buying his men's collection from the London store for several seasons sight unseen. But this is his first time in Milan. I'm picturing leg johnny running around the shop Elton how about a Green Silk Print? It will look fabulous with your huge purple wig or how about this black Sparkley. Blazer? After. Hours of shopping they are thick as thieves and decide to have dinner together. I'm picturing them devouring plates of Pasta and white sauce guzzling bottles of wine and gabbing like long lost friends and not like celebrity surface talk like, oh, darling heavy been to Paris's sixteenth arrondissements. We're talking real conversation Elton opens up about his drug problem which has been going on for years. At this point he talks about his eating disorder and how self conscious he is about as fluctuating weight and he talks about the stress of opening the tabloids each morning to see questions about sexuality again. Johnny understands he spent years and collaborated the same way and his Joie de Vive is infectious. The Guy just loves life and music. It's the start of a beautiful friendship, two peas in a pod even the rich form. INSTA- bonds over shopping wine and good music, and it's a bond that will grow stronger over time and it comes with some perks. Elton brings press and attention to cheese close and for Saatchi keep him supplied and the latest shirts, vests and Blazers sometimes it's free and sometimes Elton can't wait any buys it. Once he spent four hundred thousand dollars on a single shopping trip. That's how much he loves verse Sake. Clothes. While I feel guilty when I spend fifty dollars on a pair of jeans. While they're very nice shirts. Elton even write songs, johnny shows and Johnny makes costumes for Elton tour. If you've seen pictures of out in in the eighty s, he's pretty hard to forget I mean his stage outfits were glamorous and fabulous and completely over the top embroidered hats crazy colorful vests, leather tuxes all versatility. But Johnny isn't really the type to fawn over celebrities. Not His thing which isn't to say, he doesn't see the value in famous people wearing his clothes he absolutely does but hanging out with them, all hours of the night is boring plus he doesn't really drink which is where donatella comes in. She's always loved rock shows and stars, and she has a knack for getting backstage. But male rock legends aren't enough what we're Saatchi needs is women famous women in in the fashion world that means couture we're talking custom pieces Johnny doesn't make any of those. He specializes in ready to wear clothing. Sure it's edgy and trail-blazing and very expensive, but it's not cut tour, which is one of a kind perfection. It's a tough lead to make for a designer and pretty rare for one. It's super expensive. The most exquisite fabrics cost money and sewing and draping and hand finishes must be perfect. It's a risk. But if it pays off, it puts a designer into an entirely new stratosphere. It's like a chef earning three Michelin Stars for his new restaurant and now no, one can get a reservation or afford the food. But Johnny is ready. It's January nineteen ninety a cold day in. Paris. But backstage at the Ritz the action is sizzling. Dozens of seamstresses and assistance pulling out bags of jewelry and shoes donatella hopping from model to model and Johnny yelling at everyone the show must be perfect. The Front of the House is pure Glam there are hand painted ceilings and spiral staircases and our runway that was specially constructed right over the pool. Oh my gosh it's like that bubble episode of America's next top model. We watched last year when we watched that model fall over and over again on repeat lake do people who need lives Funny though. They'RE GONNA be three hundred guests and the pressure is enormous. It's hard enough to put yourself out there and have people judge your work but the Parisian crowd is notoriously snooty. If they turn up their noses at his collection, it'll be a total catastrophe. When? The show starts? Johnny is a bundle of nerves I. Imagine he's standing backstage watching video monitor as the first model comes out. The next forty, five minutes or an all out assault on the senses the model spin and struck down the catwalk to a mix of opera and rock in a Su- Nami of little dresses wrapped up and pink hooded Capes miniskirts and glittery form-fitting tops. The crowd eats it up when it's over, they burst into applause. Even, the press has blown away. Johnny. killed it. He did what? He does best combining close music sex in theater to create a once in a lifetime spectacle. The show was a runaway runaway success and Johnny Ver- Saatchi is on the map. But it's never that easy. Johnny still has a problem. America they don't get it or him. They think closer Brash Paris. May Be the center of fashion but you have to break the American market. If you WANNA be a fashion designer at the top of your game that's where the money and real famous at least back then. But US. Magazines and high end fashion buyers pretty much ignore him. They won't even go to his party's. But he does find a champion in an unexpected place. At Vogue magazine please tell me when towards a Fan I've watched the Devil Wears Prada like twenty times. She is. She's a total trailblazer in so many ways and when she gets to vogue and nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, she made it her mission to bring in less stuffy more accessible fashion inverse touchy. She saw someone completely unique she thinks his designs are strong and fun. She invites him to show it a benefit and she starts featuring closed in vogue it was like a big confidence boost for Johnny Ana Wind tour likes as close. As donatello will later say Anna. And realized Johnny wasn't of older. He was glamour, but still the editor of vogue can't do much sway the American public it's GonNa take money to do that and Donatella. Arusha. What saves me a lot of money and also makes my life better on a weekly basis Is this a trick question? I was trying to come up with a creative segue to talk about GRUB HUB DA. Oh. Yeah hub of course one of the best things about Grub is that when you order food through their APP, you get a ten dollar perk every time you. Order from select restaurants it's so easy to find the food you crave on the GRUB APP you just search by cuisine restaurant name or menu item to explore restaurants that deliver near you. Yeah I just love how easy it is for me to decide I don't want to cook and have food delivered to me within an hour. It's amazing. Yeah I decide that basically every day. You know me I'm a psychopath so I will not leave the house and crab hub is something I use way too much now saving grace another perk with Grub hop you can stay safe and support the restaurants you love with curbside pickup and contact free delivery. So download the APP today to get ten dollars off your order of thirty dollars or more every day from participating restaurants, breakfast lunch dinner snacks, whatever you're craving that's ten dollars off your order of thirty dollars or more every day from participating restaurants download the GRUB APP today and get ten dollars off your order of thirty dollars or more. Donatella is working on an idea of her own. On one of our trips to New York she's thumbing through American fashion magazines and newspapers. She's always checking out the latest trends in the US and she notices a ton of press coverage on three print models on particular. Christy Turlington Linda Evangelista and Naomi Campbell Naomi Campbell. I love her right. The press dubs them the Trinity, and they're not just gracing every cover of the fashion magazines. They're hanging out together and Manhattan's party scene, and they're getting more attention than the. Hollywood celebs so taller wheels. Start. Spinning. What if she could bring an entirely new type of model to the sake runway print models like the trinity if I thought, she could get the trinity to walk their next fashion show maybe the press and American magazines will take notice. But there's a reason why designers don't use print models for their shows. Basically runway models needed to have these mannequin bodies that show off clothes and the best way. Little hips and wastes and super long legs. They had a particular way of even walking hips jutted out but muscles clenched head sort of tilted back sounds like me at the dentist. Over the runway faces don't really matter because the audience is looking at the close but in print faces are everything and they can have curve's. Thin they're just not a size zero and donatella thanks for Saatchi. Close will upgrade great on them. Now, she just needs to convince Johnny. And we know he can be stubborn. Yeah. She's got to go in hot. So it's early nineteen ninety-one Donatella is just off a flight from New York she high tails it over to Johnny's decadent Milan Palazzo Johnny has probably on his couch sketching surrounded by Greek vases and Roman busts is he always sketching has you ever do anything like watch TV or make a Salami Sandwich I mean I'm sure he does but since I don't really know, let's just say he's sketching. Anyway. Donatello marches up to him and flings these American tabloids atom. They're covered in photos of the trinity Donatello's like, Johnny we've got to get these girls on one of our runway shows. It's practically command. Johnny doesn't know what to make of it. Why is she showing him pictures? Of American models partying donatella keeps going look at the press they bring in like the Paparazzi follow them around imagine what kind of press could do for for Sachi. Johnny isn't keen on the idea what you're crazy. Look them. Their bodies are all wrong are boobs and bottoms. How would I ever dress them and what if they can't walk will be fashion roadkill. But donatella eventually wears him down. Now she's just got to commence the models and their agents, and that at a price, these girls are expensive Linda Evangelista had that famous quote. We don't wake up for less than ten thousand dollars a day and runway normally pays closer to a thousand. This is where Donatello's charm and persistence come in. She promises them beyond triple the rate for run may shows and then sweeten the pot with luxurious suites at five star hotels flights on private planes, free clothes and accessories. Everything is Free Free Free Hanmi, some versus and point me to the runway. Love that reference? And that's pretty much what they thought. Donatella not only scores the holy trinity she gets few more. They all agreed to do the next for Saatchi show it's going to be raining supermodels and Donatella is convinced verse Saatchi is about to change the course of fashion. In March nineteen ninety-one, the supermodels take the stage for the fall winter line. They look for Saatchi Fabulous. Linda Vandross has even dyed her hair platinum blonde. Big donatella vibes. Yes. Except her hair short of course, Johnny is worried the women will clump down the runway like clydesdales but they don't Naomi even creates her own walk. It's fierce all hips and swag and losing confidence and on Tele- was absolutely right about the close. The models make for Saatchi, look sensational and the audience agrees. But more important than the roar of the crowd is the sound of hundreds of flash vault the press practically stampede over each other as they run to payphone. So they can report to their editorial desks about the for Saatchi collection. It's a total game changer. You have to remember that this is pre Internet pre instagram twitter, and for Sachi is instantly making international headlines The day after the event, he basically blows past every other designer on the planet show Armani Chow Valentino although I do love Valentino. The show was trail-blazing. He pretty much creates the first modern runway show the risk paid off Donatello was right. Donatella has arrived and not only that she's going to take it further she's about to become the celebrity whisperer. Donatello's pretty much always believed the key to success for the sake brand is to get celebrities to wear their clothes. It's also the way into the hard to crack. American, market. If someone famous, where's your dress? Suddenly you're on everyone's hot list and of course, being Donatella, she sets her sights high the Numero Uno pop star in the world's I'll give you a hint. She's no virgin touched for the very first time. I Love Madonna so much my God. Yeah I mean what's not to love legend truly. The woman is a shape shifting provocateur a boundary pushing fina. M- donatella is salivating to bring Madonna into the. Fold. And they're practically best friends in the celebrity world because you know they met a couple of times. Now donatella has caught wind that Madonna. Is Sniffing around for new looks to play with donatella starts sending Madonna trunks filled with couture dresses on the house. Of course, it's like catnip and when donatella invites her to Milan for a show, she's like sure why not? This is where donatella kicks into high gear I. Wish my friends would give me trunks full of mature dresses. We'll do you want to imagine it you know I do. Your Madonna. You've been flown into Italy by Private Jet Now oiled men in loincloths are spraying your face with crushed rose pedal water. When you arrive, you're whisked off in a limo to Johnny's late Como Getaway Villa Fonteneau okay, and one of my wearing I mean I always picture Madonna and like a black boost day for me. So when you walk into the villa with your entourage, you smell the enchanting aroma of your favorite flowers, which are whatever trader Joe's has that week hardly. The entire Palazzo is filled with white gardenias and tube rose. The scent is intoxicating and even though you're used to the most opulent over the top splendor you Madonna are gobsmacked you've brought along your tiny dog Chiquita. She's a Chihuahua and before Chiquita piddles near some fourteenth century statue of a Roman God, a crew of super hot buff bodyguards swoop been an offer up their services. Meanwhile, you just relax as another hot guy hands you a bellini and a white gloved. All of this is true according to the House of her Sachi Book it sounds heavenly and it works. Madonna. Is positively enchanted by the villa and by donatella she'll end up becoming super close friends with both donatella and Johnny and she'll do several of their ad campaigns and Damn I don't know if you remember those shots of Madonna but they are positively iconic. Those were truly EPA. Yes. The campaign and Madonna is a huge score, but donatello wants more never one to rest on her laurels. She'll keep racking up wins with celebs like Demi Moore and Courtney love to park and Biggie staying in prints. Of course, it probably helps that she flies many of them into Italy. First Class opens up the shop and tells them to take whatever they want. She even gives them the run of the CRIB and Lake Como. Ritual she keeps the measurements of the IP clients on file. So if they can't come into the store, she sends an outfit that fits like a glove. All told the versatility budget for promotions is over seventy million dollars holy crap. Holy. But celebs liked hanging out with her she's fun and like Johnny She's also sensitive. She doesn't mind star tantrums demands. I mean she's got good practice from Johnny. Exactly. She's in charge of all the photo shoots to she hires the best photographers people like Richard Avedon, and she'll spend millions to let the photographer get the best shot and the effort pays off celebrities break open the market oversaw she's been trying to crack for years. The American public is no longer snubbing varsity they're in love with his clothes it's like you can run the world and be sexy too in other. Words when you wear for Saatchi, you feel like a beautiful bass donatella Johnny, have it all now they're at the top of the heap johnny keeps his nose to the grindstone working on new designs Donatella on the other hand has her nose into something else cocaine. Oh No. Yeah. By the nineties, coke is pretty much everywhere in the fashion industry everyone is indulging hair stylists and makeup artists love it because it keeps them going models love it because it's locale, and now you can too for the low low price of nine ninety nine. That's too low. I don't trust that coke. DONATELLA spending more and more of her time jet-setting between New, York and La. She's hanging with the cool kids. So becomes part of her lifestyle. It suits her Gogo bouncy energy. She even uses a code phrase for sniffing out who has coke do you WanNa guess what it is. Who has coke a Risha? Donna tell over Sachi. She'd March into a party or wherever puffing on a Marlboro tossing back her platinum main and ask do I smell. Chanel at first donatella Keith to just the party scene. But then she realizes it's kind of fun to do at work to. Like on photo shoots where there's always a wild vibe with sexy guys and tight white pants and tigers roaming around yes she did bring in Tigers photo shoots. So why not pop into the bathroom with an assistant or photographer into a bumper to her habit becomes casual and regular as having a cocktail. It's like happy hour except with cocaine instead of COSMO's like any habit it starts out is fun contained behind closed doors and far from Janis prying eyes, he'd never approve its why donatella loves coming to the states. It's an escape to her own fantasy island. There's only one problem johnny expects her to be. Available twenty, four, seven no matter where she is and things start to slip through the cracks like one time when Donatello's off on a photo shoot, she gets so high that she forgets to show up on set. Johnny calls her a dozen times, but it keeps going to voicemail when he finally does get through he asks how the shoot going and on tele- goes great johnny just great. 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In one, thousand, nine, hundred, four johnny gets a call from his new bff Elton John. When Johnny picks up out and tells them, there's a rumor and it's not good. It's about his sister donatella. She loves celebrity parties right she fits right in they both know that but people are starting to notice how little time she spends at the actual party how much time she spends in the bathroom and how different she acts when she comes out the laughing at her and America Elton says snowman when Johnny hangs up, he's pissed he knows Donatelli Usta Party here and there but now people are laughing at her he doesn't understand how she could let this happen let suddenly things start to make sense no wonder she's always running to America no wonder she missed that photo shoot. One thing is clear. These rumors are bad for business when you have a household name like for socheat, negative press can bring you to your knees. It's the mid nineties and the people of Milan. Are About to celebrate the most important holiday of the Year International Pasta on my God is that a day because I should be celebrating? But no, it's fashion week. except. It's no holiday for Johnny Versatility He's been working twenty four seven for weeks. In fact, the entire team is working around the clock to make sure everything's perfect. He's done hundreds of shows, but each fashion week is like the first like opening night nerves but donatello's back in town and he's glad he can finally get her opinion just like old. Times. Only she's nowhere to be found and when she shows up, she's late. and. Then she's always popping into the bathroom or who knows where it seems like time he turns to ask her a question she's gone. Where the hell is my sister, he yells and the assistance run off in a panic to find her. Donatella used to throw herself into her work side by side with Johnny. But now in the lead up to the show, she's going out every night and partying like there's no tomorrow. But now Johnny knows what she's doing and this time he doesn't give her a pass. He yells it doesn't matter what you do but you have to know how to do it and when to do it that's according to the House of her Sachi Book. Apparently. Donatella. So ashamed that she leaves and goes home probably to do more coke I mean who knows She definitely doesn't show any signs of slowing down and Giannis under no illusion he can make her stop, but he's worried about her health and the business and pretty much everything. So what does he do nothing I mean what can he do donatella headstrong if she's not gonNA listen to him about what shoes has models where she's certainly not gonNa stop doing blow because her brother doesn't like it. And the truth is she still bringing in celebrities and press the brand is on fire. So he does what he always does. He throws himself into his work. August nineteen, ninety four and Johnny Ver-. Sachi is pooped talion I wouldn't expect you understand but yes. He's been burning the candle at both ends ever since he learned how to work a lighter and now to be honest it's catching up with him. He just got back to Milan from a trip to the states and usually he's got more spunk than the energizer bunny. But lately, he's not feeling like his old obsessive self his hearings all messed up maybe it's an infection he thinks. But then Half, of his face swells up. then. He starts to lose weight. It's like his body is shutting down after years of hard work. So Johnny goes to see a doctor gets a bunch of tests and the diagnosis. Ear. Cancer. Should I didn't even know that was a thing yeah neither Johnny and the news knocks him sideways I mean he's forty seven years old I imagine he's thinking about all the things he still wants to do. But cancer doesn't care about your day job. He tries to keep up his furious pace at work but that becomes impossible. As soon as he starts chemo treatment wipes him out. He's all the time some days he can't even make it past lunch before he. Has. To lie down the timing couldn't be worse as Johnny's Energy Wayne's things at work are busier than ever verse. Sake? Is the hottest label in the world demands through the roof, which means there are new lines to design shows to put on ad campaigns that demand attention and as much as it pains him to admit Johnny doesn't have the stamina to handle all of it. Someone else has to step in and there's only one person he trusts enough to fill his SUEDE loafers donatella. The one and only he's probably still nervous about her drug use but his hands are tied. She's the only other person who understands the business inside and out, and she's all too happy to take the helm at thirty nine. She's been living in her brother's shadow for as long as she can remember a few years back. He gave her a tiny label of her own call the versus but it never really got much attention. Now this is her time to step out into the light when gets out that Donatello's taking more responsibility at the company. Every fashion journalist from here to saks fifth avenue wants an interview with her and donatella gladly agrees she used to be bashful with the media now though she's all charm funny Sassy and bold, and when the press finds out, she's a coke loving party animal they love her even more the headlines practically right themselves. Donatella totally steps up which starts to Rub John the wrong way it's like overnight she's become the face of the. Brand the brand he built but what Johnny really can't stand as when she begins taking credit for his work while he's busy. Trying not to die she's going around calling herself co designer even though she's never designed anything in her life it's all too much for Johnny he's always been his sister's biggest cheerleader. He begged her to come to Milan all those years ago and be part of his world. He gave her job and made her rich. This is the thinks he gets, but he's too drained and feeble to do anything about it. All he can do is wait until he gets better if he gets better. It's nineteen ninety-five. A change is blowing into the fickle world of fashion at avangard parties in New, York and La Donatella keep spotting Chic Young Women in plain slip dresses with the getty straps and simple chokers. They're stomping the dance floors with Chunky doc martens. The colors are muted black gray beige. The style is restrained fashion east `as START CALLING IT MINIMALISM AKA heroin chic move, and the trendsetting crowd Donatella runs with is going bonkers over the look. It's essentially the polar opposite of Saatchi's bright geometric shapes and sexy. Couture it's no secret fashion is a moving target you have to adapt or die. So donatella, no, she needs to talk to johnny like stat she has to convince him to embrace the style for an upcoming season. I don't think this is GonNa go over well with him. Yeah. He doesn't like the style, but he agrees to try some looks even though he's not feeling great. Johnny is still hands on. So he puts together a bunch of simple sheets and dresses though he can't resist giving them splashes of colorful embroidery donatella tells him he has to pull back go more. Basic less color, less sexy less everything. Johnny's not here it. How do you tell a guy who sees the world through technicolor goggles to create a sack dress charcoal grey or black He's like a hummingbird scientists proven macy colors. We can't even imagine if he's a hummingbird than Donatella is a bird of prey and she's got her sharp talons or ready to pout. She basically tells johnny that he's so in love with his own precious designs that he can't let go and then she goes in for the kill she screamed something like go ahead. You're dressing old ladies. Now you're stuck in the past like the widows from our village who never want to change I mean quoting my girl Heidi Gloom here one day you're in the next year out. So Johnny gives a little ground the close day, but they run into more problems when they start planning for Sachi's next men's show Johnny puts donatella in charge of casting thinking she'll crush it after all she killed it with a supermodel trinity and when it comes to male models, she knows what he likes tanned. Brawny dudes with glistening flawless skin. So imagine his surprise as he settles into watch the dress rehearsal and a bunch of scrawny strung out looking guys stumbled on the runway there. So bony the clothes hang on them like maternity smocks. Okay. I'm picturing stick figure drawings walking in verse Saatchi now. After the fifth model, he just can't take it anymore enough. He screams throwing up his arms he turns to Donatella and lets her have it. What were you thinking? My clothes are supposed to be sexy and powerful these beanpole candyman fill out a fitted t shirt. Back. In the day Johnny, Donatello's collaboration brought out the best in them. Now it's bringing out the worst, but there's not much johnny can do about it. He so depleted from the Chemo that even a small fight with his sister leaves him drained. He's worried he's losing control of the business. He's got a plan one that will ensure that the direction of his business will remain in his hands. This is episode two of our four part series, the House of research. If you like our show, please give us a five star rating and a review be shirt to tell your friends subscribe on Apple Podcasts, spotify the wondering APP or wherever you're listening right now join wonder plus in the wondering APP to listen Ad Free in the episode notes you'll find some links and offers from our sponsors please support them another way to support us is to answer a short survey at Wonder Com Slash Survey will use many sources when researching our stories like Vanity Fair New York magazine and Vogue but we especially recommend the book. how Severe Saatchi by Deborah Ball I'm Brooks Ephron and I am Marisha skidmore Williams Celia Finkelstein wrote this episode. Our editor is Loredana Palivoda. Kayla Bessinger is associate producer audio assistance by Sergio Rodriguez. Sound design is by James Morgan are executive producers are Stephanie John's Marshal Louis and her pets for wondering. Amroussa Jones host of the vanished from wondering each on the vanished, we take you beyond the headlines and explore a different missing persons case this week were covering the disappearance of Jimmy. Tidwell Jimmy was a quiet man who mostly kept to himself. Jimmy. Was Planning on retiring on a plot of land he had purchased in rural. Rusk. County. Texas and was in the process of building a cabin there. He had dreams of living out a peaceful retirement with those chickens Jimmy was. Known to be a reliable worker. But in February of two thousand twelve, he clocked out after working the night shift and was never seen again, his boss was the first to alert authorities that something was amiss when Jimmy failed to show up for work eight years later, detectives are still trying to piece together who would have had a motive to make Jimmy disappear to hear Jimmy Story and many more subscribed to the vanished on apple podcasts spotify or add free on wondering plus.

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LG QUICKIE: LadyGang Live at City Winery DC

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LG QUICKIE: LadyGang Live at City Winery DC

"Hey guys did following. Podcast is a lady gang network and podcast one production which means it's gonna be awesome. Hello everyone you know how we said. You could come see us on tour this summer on the lady tour well if you live in phoenix unfortunately were sold out so you can't come see us anymore and if you're thinking about coming to the los angeles show which tanya rat is our special guest. It's also sold out the only place you can still get tickets to come and see us. This summer is in san francisco head on over to the lady game dot com to pick up your tickets before they sell allows. There's only like twenty left. Lady gang is brought to you by m._t._v.'s. The real world atlanta my hometown streaming now only on facebook watched the original reality. 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Late again well technically. They're all dc a._c. Lady game but if you're not in the facebook group yeah get with it <hes> so anyway we wanna thank cata one botanical for allowing us to come out out here and drink with you tonight after you stood in a hallway hot for a long time i hope three drink s so we're drinking. Misprint says this is our summer jam and as kelly mentioned before i'm lazy so i don't really enjoy making cocktails. I like drinking them but i can't always be at an establishment with a bartender so what you do for a spreads is very simple bitches keto in botanical and soda water and that's it and it's no carbs no added sugar and no artificial sweeteners really good and they're so delicious and you guys know that i am a sports khanna on a sore. I don't put my stamp of approval on just anything there so delicious there's grapefruit and rove's cucumber mint in orange blossom and peach. They're all delicious. We love them all right. Thank you thank you for that and now it's time for up a bottle. Hey sir. You didn't say good week badly unless you what's your name. He's already getting called out tom. Let's do it again for tom brady and now it's time for good week. She started yeah. Do you wanna start okay well. I see this every time we have a show. I haven't nervous. People may ten minutes before we start the show. All the nerves drink as much so awake. I'm also wearing white so oh by the way i'm also on my period so everybody beyond theory and watch actually just in case something happens around. Here wasn't a good choice me to wear okay. Well be honest about what day you're on well. I'm on my fifth day but that's brown brown but it's still there. It can still stay in shape. It's not gonna leak out. It's going to conglomerate saying that i take down my underwear the night butthole or you don't never know suppress the greatest mystery life. Okay sorry thom already sir. We're on the two minutes in this. We're gonna get exponentially more drunk in this gonna get grocer so we okay true. My good began babinec both revolve around instagram and my is. I always clear my throat okay so my good week. Is you know we all get some random d._m. The end every once in a while sometimes it's dick pic sometimes. It's a death threat like you know not. Should we call her book dick. Pic the death threats on the list came more okay so i'm checking my like d._m._z. Uh-huh you like what's going on and i get a d._m. From this guy and i started scrolling up and i'm like oh my god. This guy has been messaging for months and i'm going to read you some some of my favorites. The first one is just the lyric it's a pain without love pain and can't get enough pain and i like it rough because i'd rather feel it'll pain the nothing at all. It's a three days grace. Lurk apparently okay next one. He said he sends me the taylor swift. You need to come down video with o._m._g. The beginning is your ass ask. I don't know what that means then. He sends a picture that i don't see it. That says kelsey caught us. It's too late. She might expose you on our insta- story orange county is literally gonna come over and pour honey in your bed like that one scene from that one movie this anybody know movie. This attack cut the parent trap parent trap then it gets a little bit crazier about what he's going for the jugular he goes to the parent trap then. It seemed like they did in the parent trap then it goes jack. Please come suck my cock jack baby. I'm sorry jackie we will love you until sunrise but for now i must rest. You're definitely getting murder and then my last message and my favorite is jack. I love you more than kelsey. That's rude has some kind of vendetta against you. They'll so happy that one in person on the planet loves you more than they love me. Do everybody wants so much. Okay my bad week and i have visuals for my bad autoweek. Honestly i'm so proud of jack like when we started lady gang. She didn't really understand producing a show bo shows this weekend. He brought props love proc. I just like i'm just you don't need to take them behind the curtain so much right now. I know a fourth wall okay. I got tagged in an instagram photo. What no no i will do and if you guys have been listening to leading for awhile you know that there is a lot of controversy surrounding our knees. I don't know why but people have opinions about our knees. Mostly kelty's people be crazy but they're mostly mostly coming from prison inmates that have nothing else to talk about about so i get tagged in an instagram post. It's like this. It's like a reposted my outfit pick on my goal. Maybe it's from one of the brands i was wearing. I go to read the comment. I love you. Jack vinick and you're leading very much but your knee. I worry about you're need it. Resembles balls zoom in a little bit zooms comes in a little bit more then it looks like a face then a balzac and then balls so this is a very nice instagram posts and i'm like you know what i wanna. Printout turns out of visual for the show go to print it off in my business center at my apartment. Only black and white prints are on mike no need colorful for full fact then i try to principalities altis office. I forget that i'm like okay. I'm going to a fedex kinkos so i go to their workstation to try to print it out. There printers broken and i'm telling lady i'm like you. You know like i need help fixing the printers. She's just email me. The pictures all print them out for you mccaw. Please don't actually look at them. Oh my god so she goes to print them out. Invites invites employees. I kind of look at what she's doing and then as she hands me in the stack of papers is the most disapproving look i have ever gotten in my life like i felt like she killed somebody very good. Would you like to go sure yesterday. I had a moment of georgia good. We had a good week so as you know i don't often let joy into my life. I always working and and focusing on what's next brings you joy. It does bring me a kind of joy but my manifestation for this summer has been to laugh real real laughs. Oh my god and so we have to teach yourself how to laugh yeah. I do all the celtics note. I'm talking about no. They don't awkward anyway yesterday at the airport jacqueline and i both eight at deep dish pizza and then i instantly got diarrhea and we both had to go to the bathroom at the same time and in the airport jack let me hold her hand while we walked for too long i was actually thinking walked the airport holding hands and giggling and i just felt so happy. I was the funniest this time i'd had in so long and i just love our friendship so i'm so sad. It's so nice to really have a giggle like a schoolgirl back. You didn't miss anything not jealous of the hand holding. I always liked to be chosen so that i can turn you down yeah. I didn't hear that anyway. I just was beautiful also so chose jack as her upgrade companion and so she got upgraded to first class sheet even asked sheet even take a beat before the woman was like like why can only link you with one ticket. She's like jacqueline van. I feel like target. We're not getting into it but this is a lot anyway. Here's my bad week on the flight out. I was of course in business class. Upgrade god and i was sitting next took that i thought was jeremy renner which is like crazy because you know jeremy me once and then. I told them my idea for his show renovation because he loves yeah. He loves to flip. How respond to that d._m. You he was driving me because i saw him then. I was like i'm flipping houses to my my own house him and we all come take a walk through if you want. She's told this story before and she told it in the same way where it was like jeremy renner's slid into her mom's but yet really hurts. Jim initiated yeah. Yeah i initiated but then i was like jeremy. I have a great idea. I show on hgtv renovation so this guy it was not jeremy. He never wrote back anyway. It wasn't jeremy renner but he was an aggressive male adult nail biter. Hello tom do you bite your nails. Tom do you bite your toenail or wife shaking her doesn't this guy it was mowing the fuck down on his own fingernails and like with the headphones on watching a movie and dislike then you're going tao's fingers in someone's vagina later it's gross was he'd biting things off and spitting them likes getting a little nail and then do a little. I choose to swallow and swazi fighting his own seedling talking groff's. That's okay well <music>. I'm glad i renovation is a great idea. That's all honestly is not bad. It's ok okay. I'm glad i'm glad you talked about your nervous. Yes because a great segue cool. I found jack mannix flaw. Yes i didn't i've been hearing a lot of hotel rooms with jack lately and you really never know someone until you share hotel room with them. You know what i mean well. She did something one time and i was like. I'm not gonna hold this against her. It's probably i know what it is. Well i go into the bathroom couple of hours after she had her morning movement and there's like a wad of toilet paper like a child like a four year old who's he's just been potty trained and their mothers like. I'm done wiping. You're you're doing it yourself and then they roll out half of the toilet paper they wipe their ass and then they leave it in the toilet no but this is something i flush it out. I'm sorry there's no defense. She hasn't finished a story that letter tighter sir i. I actually thought that when you're in the bathroom because you flush the toilet like the first thing they when you went in there i flush but then somehow the toilet paper. Just this comes back in the ball probably because you're using too much okay we'll guests on destroying the planet singlehandedly okay well. I thought it was a fluke well today about one hundred yards from here. I went in to have my morning and i walk in after jack. Jack and what do i walk into so much toilet paper but the thing is i took a shit. Shit flushed it. I know that's not me not flushing the. I don't know what i'm doing wrong. You guys. I've been live for thirty two years doing louis c. where you've also a little bit of poop. There's hope on let me see okay but you might offense for this movement. I did use a ton of live here because i am wearing white and i'm like i don't want any residue anywhere anyway. Sorry okay. I love it when they fight so that's that's my my good week bad week. Is this your and so we've been doing the live shows. It's been so fun we love of meeting. All you guys we love meeting. All you guys and super fun and usually guys come up with the area and you're like oh my gosh. I love you guys. I've met some of my best friends runs through this like you get me through my monday like the best things ever. One girl yesterday walks up to me with like the most serious look interface. It was heavy. I don't i'm not saying the one you're going to that. You're thinking of you didn't hear this. Oh yeah the bitch waited to do in private private goes. Hey i have to admit i hate you on the podcast but after today you're my favorite favorite and house like i don't know what to do right now. You know what that's like an emotional manipulation. She gas let me. I think i'm in love with her. Don't any of you bitches do that to me. Okay hey that also if you hate me please listening. We hate ourselves more than you could ever hit us. 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Oceans 12 With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins

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Oceans 12 With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins

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Is there get quote or find an agent at state farm dot COM Shawn Doyle Fifty watchable Ocean's twelve yeah? I Want my money back the money that he stole from me on sixty million dollars with interest. I'm not the only person in the world. We need a job. You need a high paying job. Well now we're too hot to work anywhere in this country where we going. What are we stealing? Yeah it's a great day when I get to podcast with these two. It's Sean Fantasy Amanda Dobbins. I'm Chris Ryan. We're here to do the REWATCH ables. Ocean's twelve a flawed rewatch. Ables is it is. We're going to get into that. That was we've been given this assignment. It should choose to accept it. I feel like this. Podcast may explode in our hands. Let's talk about twelve released December. Two thousand four three years after Ocean's eleven directed by Steven Soderbergh and written by George no fee shot by soderbergh under a a assumed name stage name. Is it the Peter Name Peter Andrews? Yeah and scored by long-term soderbergh collaborator. David Holmes. This soundtrack is full of bangers. It was budgeted at one hundred ten million dollars and SODERBERGH would later call it one of the biggest budgeted stone her movies of all time. It made three hundred sixty two million worldwide. And we're talking about this in terms of it being a flawed renewables. I think think because it was received rather typically when it was released in two thousand and four and there are a lot of reasons for that. You've been critically yeah. I think critically but I also like the if you want to get into the to the fan reacts. I think that a lot of people were like that wasn't that was in Vegas Bro. And as we have learned on podcast we should always trust defend action. What fan reactions were you? Were you on the boards? I so funny. You should mention that I did go to some boards. I did go to some like early quarrel style like Yahoo Answers type responses to this movie. That's really where you I'm sorry. Did quarter notes this in two thousand wooller. Whatever that version of it was like archived on the Google Web Dot Archive? I just got the sense that people were like there are a lot of flaws to like the logic of this movie the heist and stuff like that. I have some theories about why people felt like this was flawed. But I don't WanNa start off on that on that foot we can get into that. Let's talk about why we love. This movie Amanda Perhaps. No one has built a higher condominium building on Ocean's twelve corner than you that is true I we the three of us today. Soderbergh SODERBERGH podcast. Maybe a year ago and it was in my top five soderbergh. I love this movie for several reasons. The first being I think this is actually one of the great. And this is a sequel about sequels. I mean it's right there in the plot. GotTa do another job. But it's gotta be bigger and now there are two villains instead of one and they gotta figure it out and I think because it has soderbergh. It's very smart commenting on the process of of making movies. And also what we expect from sequels and you know to your your friends on the fan boards points. It is absurd at times. I mean you know. I don't recommend that you try to steal Faberge egg based on the Heist in this movie. I don't know that it's going to go well for you. Yeah that in and of itself is like a comment on. I mean sequels are always ridiculous because you just have to keep like ending up in doing more over the top things to to keep the plot culture in addition to that and that's just like smart movie shit that's why. Soderbergh is still number one guy house and then number two. I mean this is just like a movie. Pleasure principle absolutely and it is also very specifically amandus pleasure principles and I do also think it's really maybe even more than Ocean's eleven movie as star study. Yeah because obviously in the first one and it is about the charisma of everyone involved and the the cast and but they're kinda discovering that chemistry and that hang in real time and this is like. Oh you want to hang out with some movie stars in Europe. Here you go showing. Why do you love this movie? I think because I don't have to think about it. I think it's sort of the opposite of a lot of what we do on this. Podcast off of other podcasts. We do it just kind of a lush jazzy. Goofy euro very very euro movie influenced movie and even though the stakes are extensively Danny Ocean and his band of Mary. Thieves might get murdered by Terry Benedict. It never even really feels that way. It never feels desperate Syria. Yeah it never feels like there's going to be any real consequences. Yeah and I think that that might have been held against it in the past but as you as you turn the movie on at nine pm on a Monday night. Sixteen years after it was made. It's much better that it isn't as ten full of anxiety that it is actually just a really a fun hat you said last night when we were talking about it you just you love to hang out with this movie which I thought was such a smart way of describing the feeling that it gives you. It's like a friend you know it's not it's the tension is so modest that it's easy to return to which is obviously the literal premise of this show. I have always been baffled by. It's it's some complicated reputation. I think it's pretty easy to understand right on. Its face really uncomplicated. That's the whole point of it. What are you Chris? I think that I think it might be his most like achingly beautiful movie I think the first hour of it especially the Amsterdam stuff is some of the most gorgeous stuff I've seen in a blockbuster aimed movie And I think he kind of agrees in in two thousand fourteen. He told Huffington post in terms of shock. Construction cutting patterns the use of music from a filmmaking standpoint. That's the best of the three so he is very affectionate towards Ocean's twelve now in the Promo run for ocean's thirteen. There was like kind of fun going on where a lot of people were asking clue about this. But that soderbergh apparently said Ocean's thirteen should have been called the one we should have made last time and that it was somehow a correction for twelve but to me going back I find twelve to be perhaps the most rewarding of the three I think one is like perfect and then goes in a box somewhere where you're like. There's nothing you can improve that movie. There's nothing wrong with it. They captured by lightning in a bottle. But twelve is kind of messy and has loosens an untied shoelaces. And I Kinda love that about this movie you know. I think it's really really kind of European for Hollywood movie. Hundred percents like got this kind of like jetlagged depressed. It's like give Jean. Pierre Melville had a sense of humor. That's what the movie is. It's like the the way that the movie is made in all this stuff that you said that he is proud of the the cutting and there's so much zoom and the grain film but even just the the atmosphere that he creates the setting of the movie. The hotel room hangouts that are happening out the movie. Yeah it is it is it is your on a your ocean's eleven European vacation like it really is and I think the idea obviously for whatever reason for this didn't occur to me but it's like the first hour this movie is stoned out of. Its mind like that Amsterdam vibe of them is feels very like it's literally what if we raise the buildings? Yes literally the plan and then they do it so yeah. I think that the other thing I would point out about this one even though it has that weird kind of sometimes like sort of longing or wistful feel to it is that these are movies about friendship and for as much as I think that the oceans movies are sometimes viewed as Soderbergh's one for them that he would do like the ones he would do. So that he could make chair he could make salons or whatever He told the HUFFINGTON post for all their fizzy frothy surface the subjects. You know the subjects of these movies are things. I take very seriously anybody who knows me will tell you that my friends are really important to me and being good at my job and trying to be better at my job is really important to me. What a cool idea for. A trilogy of blockbusters does make me think though the the thing that differentiates the for the two movies the first two is that the first movie which is clearly a job. Yeah everybody involved feels like a heist and the second movie is a gripped. It's a con man movie it's not heist movie and we are the marks total at the end of the movie in like everything you saw. Was this this show. Okay yeah okay. So why? Don't I make the case against this movie? It was going to say. I think we have to do some devil's advocate work. Otherwise it's going to be three people just celebrating one another's love of something made you the devil. I will make the case against social twelve as a flawed. You're not making the case against it. You are identifying some flies while appreciating I am method acting. Ocean's twelve hater right now I I. I went on the board constructed my entire life to not meet people like I. You're about to play. Amanda Getting paid enough for this name. Is Chris Bryan? And I Hate Ocean's Twelve. This is why on initial viewings it can seem contrived and bored with itself and it seems like a sequel to the. Ocean's eleven press tour rather than Ocean's eleven. I love that it's got lots of Meta joke about Hollywood spilling into the movie better for us. No I I'm forbid. We thought Frisk talking versus in the Jewish tradition of covering the young male member. Okay everybody seems tired and jet lagged and in the first movie where it was all clean lines and clear motivations Terry Benedict stole Danny Ocean's girl and now Danny Ocean is going to steal something from him. Ocean's twelve is kind of convoluted. It brings in a debt that they would have benedict. It brings in a game of wits with the night. Fox You bring Isabel Lahiri. You also have Julia Roberts in there. But then there's this whole thing with Lamarque the game and the escrow and what's happening with that and it's just confusing and then at the end of the at the end of the movie you find out that essentially the last half of the film was a play was like not was not real and everything that we've gotten so invested. When are they gonNA get the coronation egg? And how is this? Going to happen. Was All essentially a Bayton switch to to confuse tour so I think that that is what you say about this movie. I have no emotional conviction and what I just said. I don't believe it. I think that this movie is only flawed if you have a limited appreciation for what movies can be. I mean if you're watching this movie to design your own Heist I understand how you would want your money back at the end of it. You need to pay for your legal fees because you're in jail because it won't get that and I guess I guess people do watch movies different ways if you watch movies as you know wanting to be with these people which it is. It's a hangout movie. It's a and it's a movie star movie and it's your movie and if you are interested in any of those things or just looking at beautiful images it couldn't be better if you are going to be quite literal about the mechanics of robbing fancy things You know tough. And even the stakes there robbing Faberge egg thing that doesn't matter for reasons doesn't matter within the context of the movie but I I guess I think I've thought about this a lot and why. I'm not harshly critical of movies. Like this and I m harshly critical of movies like inception. This is just personal preference for me but with a movie like inception which I was very critical of on this show. The tone of the movie demands that you take sears absolutely and if you don't take it seriously you don't try to engage in the lower building and the logic of the movie then you're not really getting what they're trying to do and what. The filmmaker is trying to say a lot of ways. Which is this really grave. Emotional set of of dramatic circumstances. This just does not care about that. I mean there are some emotional. And sentimental moments Catherine Zeta Jones's reunion with Albert Finney and even just like rusty kind of reckoning with this stage of his life where Danny was reckoning with it in the previous film. So it's not that it's completely a lark emotionally is and because it is whether the heist logically works like I. I really just do care. It's just not meaningful to me in terms of the execution of the story it is. It's a clever movie which is a word that I have found. The often bubbles APP when people don't often enjoy that I enjoy that purposely because there's nothing I like more than like someone telling me that I'm smart. That's my greatest but not everyone responds that way. And it is a little met as you said and it is a little unkind word would be self-satisfied but navel-gazing whatever yeah and and I understand that that is not a tone that everyone seeks out. I think also if you resent self-satisfied Hollywood in particular and the Glamour of movie star lifestyle. Part of what I think is appealing about it for the three of us is it's it is a really just fascinating to watch movie. Stars engage with their own personas in real time in a constructed reality. Yeah there are other people who'd these are people who are critical of the Oscars. Who like these self-important blow-hards on snapchat critique can't believe they shot in Lake Como like George Clooney couldn't even be bothered to like leave? His summer home right and SORTA gloriously was like really annoyed because he was like. That's actually visconti's home in. Yeah and he was just like these bricks. Couldn't like look that up but I think that that was you know those distinctions or whatever. I WanNa talk a little bit about the movie stars that we've alluded to. Sean said that this movie essentially invert s- The central relationship. I would argue of Ocean's eleven. Which is rusty Danny Making Rusty? The the sort of vulnerable one the one going through it and Danny I I honestly feel like Danny is hardly in this movie agree. It's true it's really noticeable. Yeah I mean we can get to him but like to me like this is just like it's wild. How funny and Good Damon is in this movie. I but he is pretty much the second banana and the movie and Rusty is like the star. Let's talk a little bit about. Oh Four Pitt. But let's talk a little bit about this performance. What do you think of Brad Pitt in this movie I? It's pretty overwhelming choice. I'm just you know it's been a long season of me. Talking about Brad Pitt. While trying to be a professional respected person in the world not respected at all. I don't even know. I said that I would like to be self respecting. Yes thank you I really liked the buzz yeah I noticed last night. I think the fashion has actually come around or I think what's funny. Is that in two thousand and four. He's supposed to completely redesign where they're just like you dress like you leather coats which are like definitely the thing that everyone goes to Europe and buys and then you got this other code Florence or whatever are still not with it because you want to address like trevor everything else. You can see on the on the men's runways right now which is great shutout. Brad Pitt. I he this is like this is peak. Charisma Brad Pitt. He's not even really doing anything else. And I think maybe some of the negative response to the movie is that he is it. It's such an internalized performance. You know that Christmas going and remains the biggest star in the world right. Yes woman Troy Oceans and Mr Smith. Yeah it's it's peak cool guy and also little self effacing with all of the hotel stuff and I find it just immensely appealing. Damon was not going to do this movie. He wanted to back out he he was like you know. I. There's conflicting reports some say. Wanted his part to be bigger some say he pointed his part to be smaller but he was essentially coming off of the borne movie. And it was like I'm exhausted. Can Maybe I skip out on this one? I'm really glad he did not. He's essential to the movie. He's the funniest part of the movie. Now and he's the only truly desperate character in the movie and even though it's a life circumstance theoretically because he's so insecure and it's such a genius trope to reverse someone who is so naturally handsome and charismatic and turn them into a linus soderbergh. Does it over and over again? You know the informant and contagious. And he keeps using and Kim Candelabra he keeps using that Damon in this way and this reversal of fortune. Way And I think it's mostly because not only. Do you need a character like that to cut Danny Ocean Rusty Ryan? But you need a character like that to cut George Clooney and Brad Pitt. Yeah they're cutting against that and I just the line readings are amazing when he makes him up on the flight to Europe. It's all he's doing. Which what are you doing? And obviously it was written as a self referential moment to what you were describing to you that he didn't want to do the movie but he needed a more integral part in the Heist Aka more integral part of the movie. I'd really like to to play a more central this time around right. I feel like I'm ready for that. I wanted to do. I was wondering if I may become the meantime now. Bugai's negotiate he and Pitt have fantastic chemistry in this. They really. They found a new level. And I really enjoy it. It's died away. I mean like the Meta moments start from pretty much the second the group back together and we could talk about all of them We can get into category so I think okay so. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back. We'll get into the categories. 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Risk free trial at S. I. M. P. L. I. Safe Dot com slash watchable simplisafe dot com slash. Rewatch ables guys. We're back Ocean's twelve. Let's do the most re watchable seen we've pretty. I think we've gone through a lot of whatever the flawed part of this movie is but we can save any other discussions of that for. What's the worst most watchable seen some nominees at you? The twelve reunion Danny. It was one job that we did together. So I don't know where this whole proprietary stance comes from Scott. Caan really good into Joe. Wife said that he called an ocean eleven. Who decided that? I'm a proud contract. It was a collaboration. That moniker is insult Daniels. One job we did together so I don't know where this whole like proprietary stance comes little possess. One could make the argument that because it wasn't Also breaks a couple of times but you can see they use takes where he like cracks up at Elliott Gould and walks away the breakdown of the Vanderwood Heist and Damon. Being do we have to call him a freak? Hey what do we have to use that term? What Term Freak. I mean the national is a to mental health estimates. That five point. Six percent of adults develop Agra phobe at some point. Whatever I'm just saying I mean I. I don't think we need to be the kind of organization that lay people went organization. But would you call Emily Dickinson a free you hosting a telecom? We don't know what you call. Emily Dickenson free. We have to be that of organization they just put like a Robert Altman movie where there's like eighteen different overlapping dialogue parts. And there's like it's fun to watch it with subtitles. Actually because you can see like pit mutters like don't touch my food a couple of times people which is a great nod towards the food thing that goes throughout these movies the Matsui Meeting Robbie Coltrane all time just absolutely. I remember also when I saw this the first time watching that like this is fucking incredible. That they're doing a five minute scene. Where no one knows what each other is saying and doing the lyrics to. Kashmir is incredible. Oh let the Sun beats down upon my face stars to fill my dreams. I am a traveller in both time and space to be where I have be. Casimir said your idea of making a copy machines and even started gotten tones it this close to losing. I don't even understand what happened in there. What if I said he called his niece a whore very cheap one she? Seven current can find a bed with a wicked case. I love the banter at the waiting translation to leave mom just although like how do you think I am? Yeah do we know Rusty's not fifty fifty years old? Let me ask you something. How do you think for eight forty eight years old fifty two and the way that they handle that put a man and a handbags? That's right the Amanda Dobbins Memorial Pick for Vincent cosell's introductory Montage Film on location just always filmed on location. That's I ask anyone making a movie ever again film on Location. Thank you rusty and Danny getting drunk on red wine when Danny gets woken up at eleven thirty and they watch happy days On in Italian yes I talked to Dr to ask given its location advised against guy doing parties. Unbelievable doing is unbelievable. Bruce Willis in the hotel. I mean the entire test comes to Rome and test coming to Rome. I think that the entire Julia Roberts from the hotel to museum but the fabric Faberge theft sequence is incredible as well. But the Bruce Willis coming in breaking the fourth fifth sixth seventh. All of this movie. Hey Jewel reminds me. I'VE AMANDA CALL. You since the last time the draw down in town so relaxing anyway to left her. Spongebob blanket in the Red Cossiga. Okay so what I WANNA do here. Thank you and just their interaction and Glenn Snack well and everything. Snack explicity everything. That's going on David in that to Louis. Spongebob and you know we could throw in Marcus. Nights Fox capillary dance. And everything you have to all that all that stuff kind of goes into the last sort of twenty five minutes before the final like l'americain Lahiri stuff but those are the ones that I have shown you any other ones to add. I thought the re introduction to the eleven at the beginning of the movies pretty great coming to catching even before that before we see him approaching the people essentially Danny in the bank and opening that way of creating that similar like Thomas Crown Affair Energy at the top of the movie. And you think it's going to be one kind of movie and then it doesn't become that kind of him deciding not to rob that bank or whatever it is that was was going through his mind at the time is almost like the pivot for the movie you know it could have been one kind of a grittier. American tail and then it becomes this much more Internet also strapped to the beginning of out of sight with tell her And then rusty visiting Toepfer Grace is awesome. My last time unbelievable and I really like Eddie Jameson stand up. Comedy in the Matador Suit. What does he like? He's the modern man alienated so usable. I could probably get twenty minutes. I mean I think there's also something about the self aware self effacing little touches the come through the movie. It's a memory movie and a lot of ways and keeps putting title cards up on the screen and saying six days ago I it. It doesn't make any sense but I do like the one in particular when the night. Fox's explaining the story of Lamarque and the American businessman played by George Job and then he brings the whales in ocean's thirteen exactly So all of the little like it's much more of a flashing moments movie also Jerry Jones. Young that moment in the truck with with Matt. Damon batted thanks. You told bad so great can be dining out on this one for months. One of the funniest moments of the movie. It's fantastic. I love how. She's just like chewing gum when she comes into the just general I yeah. What was the most remarkable scenes for you amid so I have a couple runners up the the Matsui meeting is just if you if you had to give someone what four or five minutes of these movies and it'd be cure. What about. It's a pretty good distillation when I was watching last night. Clooney is amazing in that one because he just doesn't move he's just sitting there not saying it's an it's so good. That dead pet deadpan. Look and obviously Damon with the Community. Doing THAT GUYS. It's really good And then also on a similar to good summary of these movies like the pit including watching happy days. Sure I I watched this with my husband last night he. This is the only time he's ever done this. I was ten minutes any walked in. He was like Oh started over. I WanNa Watch the whole thing with you. And he'll never watched the troubles with me. Which is just this is a great rewatch wills but we got to that scene and he was like this is a really beautiful movie about male intimacy everything that you need to know about my husband and anyway but I thought that was true. It's lovely little seen about friendship and hanging out and it's like a perfect thing that Russ's just like well that's too bad you're awake at eleven thirty like any person probably say like and he's like come on let's get drunk but it's also the inversion of that five minutes later when rusty is bearing his soul including his this so tired and not paying attention. All the way men will often do in. Another man is unburdening. His soul is really smart. But that's those are my seen my seen is the whole the test goes to Rome. Let's talk about this. Yeah this would be my pick two. I wasn't in four weddings. I remember when this happened when I saw this the first time. I was Kinda like someone had this idea and this is why they made the movie they were like. Wouldn't it be funny if we did this? And then it's like we should probably just put a movie around this. Yeah it's it's like one of the best whiteboard throw a throw something at the wall and see what sticks things that I've ever seen executed in any other way. If it had been handled in any other number of ways it completely undoes the entire project like not just this movie but any of the movies and yet when you watch it you are like I just took six hits of nitrous. Yeah cannot believe how elated and fund this. This old that is. It's reminding me a little bit of what curb your enthusiasm does obviously is show that. I'm obsessed with and curb. Your enthusiasm frequently casts very famous people in very small roles but also because it takes place in. Hollywood cast real people as bad versions of themselves. So Ted Danson is a character on the show as Ted Danson. But this season Vince. Vaughn is on. The show is a massive game Freddie and there is an absurdist premise to that that is really fun and feels like so uncontrollable you know. Movies are so predictable in so many ways and so standard and so designed and so. They're working so hard to make audiences feel safe so they don't leave so they don't turn it off and walk out of the theater. This is a real genuine wrist. Now it's pretty daffy and screwball and integrate spirit and it's people with the three of us love doing things so it's not like we would never walk out of something like this but it would be confusing to some people and it would be to. Meta and I think when bill wanted this to be a flawed watchable. I think specifically the Meta aspect of this story and these sequences. Some people just didn't like return against our thought was bright as amended saying self-satisfied. I personally have the exact opposite relievers reactions. You Either. Watch this and you go. Holy Shit is the most delightful thing I've ever seen or you immediately switch your brain to the other side and say so. Wait if tests looks just like Julia Roberts and that's a thing does Danny looked just like George Clooney. Exactly that's exactly what I think in the curb. Your enthusiasm universe is Vince Vaughn in Hollywood why Freddie is also here in the show someone explain to me how these we're inception causing like that the message of grace now. Because Julia Roberts exists in this universe and we know the Adrian Brodie exists in this universe. Yup But Matt Damon and George Clooney and Brad Pitt. Don't I'm just saying that? Why Colin George Clooney? George come on in. This is one of my all time favorite movie seats. I'm not doing this. Yes you are doing all this time like hey supposed to be the linus of this group and not the person on the message board. You are supposed to bring positivity and we can work this out and we don't have to train a cat the frank near the Glenn Snack will linus because you would say we don't need that type of organization that's true okay from now on no more flaws. Yeah No. It's not about this scene which I I think your point is right is that you do have to bring a ton of extra knowledge to this scene to actually get what's going on. We're at least every every joke you know. Even when Matt Damon is like at the end recounting the plot of this sense to me. I knew when he was at the restaurant and picked up on that. You know and it's not like they save six cents you just. There are so many things that you have to know and I understand that. That is a off putting to some people and get it. We three are obsessed with this stuff and I am obsessed with movie stars and I am obsessed with movies and I and I know you know that Julia Roberts is husband's real name is Danny. Yes Japan's super fucking they make it doubly doubly confused and using to. Lula's real name. That's actually marcy is actually has her publicist. Yes and they're setting it up throughout the movie of. Oh you just can't say that. Never said that she looks like the other person and then they're setting up the all the jokes about being in romantic comedies. Which you know I find like so funny I su- as people who consume all of this and are sort of like the inception nerds but for this type of movie. I just find it. I think it is self serving but it also serves the audience that is me. It's I loved it. It the thing that makes it the reason that the nose plays so to speak in this in this scene is Damon and Roberts is reaction when Bruce was comes fucking incredible Damon. I WANNA like Tony. Romo this tell was walks like so excited to you Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts's face. I love literally. I actually think it might be some of the greatest American acting in this age because she is a woman pretending to be Julia. Roberts and Bruce Willis is greedier as if she is Julia Roberts but she is this woman who's like Holy Shit the guy from moonlighting is walking up and she's just thrilled. I genuinely wondered whether they that it was happening until he walked out because she is so delighted and surprise so they apparently went through like twenty three different versions of how to play this rewrote and rewrote and rewrote. And I'm sure a lot of its AD libs anyway but it is amazing. And then credit to him Willis is just like so good and he's nails. Yoga's amazing it's perfect the way that he plays it. Nice to meet you Glenn. One of my favorite little moments in this scene which speaks to the veracity that we're talking about about every choice that they made is went. Glenn introduces himself. And then Bruce gets flustered and he's like you dropped. Marcy fired Marcy. Marcy two weeks ago in town. I'm sorry man Murphy that sit down. I'm with the studio. Marcy still very much in the picture Sir Which is a real thing that happens you know there are. There are publicist that are working from the studio. That are personal publicist. There is a fine line. Usually when you're on a European tour for a film right. You're working with the studio publicity. It's like the the level of specificity in the jokes and in the delivery is come really strong. They're all enjoying it. Like you know that these are people who have had to put up with like versions of this nonsense and there are clearly having so much fun roasting everyone. I mean when demons in the car and he's like we have suffered some personnel lost. Something doesn't know what to say clearly making fun of everybody who is getting killed for his accent in the movies and the first one just killing Julia Robert Killing tess quote unquote for her accent. Like got long vowels. Sydney's just like doing the most like I think. These cockney is actually pretty amusing but I think some people with that actual accent shades right. So obviously Julia Roberts Hotel seen gets most rewards but the entire Julia Roberts s experience in the movie. We'll go most remarkable. I will say well we talked about it a little bit on the first one. I I sort of. Don't really get the Julia Roberts aspect of the first film like I feel like she's really underused in the movie and maybe there's a case for that that like rice. The dollop of her goes a long way but this movie really utilizes her mega charisma in a great way. Well now because she gets to be a part of the game she's the ocean. Yeah well and I think you know. I don't want to jump ahead but I think we'll we will talk about Catherine Zeta Jones in a lot and I think in these movies. You only want to spend time with the crew. That's IT and so. When she has to be a part of the crew she has more time to shine and they get to have her be the greatest movie star of all time. She's not even trying that scene where she's just watching him. Mix The paint at the beginning through. So then it's disdain is and the frustration and it's tremendous too much blood. Yeah so good. It's your paint. What's the best the look sound and feel it's it's actually like Johnson the beginning? I think it's as much a background movie as anything else. It's great to look into listen to and just doesn't demand a lot in the brain. I JUST WANNA say. Also we don't probably we've done a bunch of pods about Steven soderbergh movies about his top five. We did Ocean's eleven probably talking about David. Holmes is contribution to the legend. That is Steven Soderbergh. He's done numerous films with him and especially these movies and Haywire. They're great nods to like seventies Italian crime soundtracks Goblin soundtracks and more coincides there. But he's so fucking good at making these movies cool like he is essential to these movies. I completely honest. I don't I don't have anything to add. I don't know where they would be without right. And his style is flexible. And also the found music they pull the sort of the Italian orchestrations and some of the pop songs in Pole and some of the other one. The Third Man Zipper type music that they play at Isabelle's MOM's funeral. Yes when rusty is watching her from the tree is like from nine hundred seventy s Italian crime. Yeah I mean it's just like to get Other otherwise age the best late COAMO AND VINCENT SELLS LIFESTYLE. Just the fruit. Smoothie is a leash it when he comes out and he's just got like a giant platter of fresh cut fruits. You as I would love to live a life where not only is fresh fruit. Always around okay. But I don't have to think about its procurement. Its freshness or its disposal right. It's just there for you. I Love I love when I see people's houses and there's just like fruit fruit here there and I'm like damn it. You know every time I go to the store just like. Am I really going to have six? Apple's this week or three apples this week like probably not when I get them. I usually throw them in the fridge. So it's like they just kind of like a hidden anyway so nobody knows about my. This is an amazing emotional excursion. High spot you know if you guys have anything like that where you're like. I wish why by do what you're describing. Yeah and I have a few bowling my. I don't eat a lot. I know you eat an apple every day but no one else. Does they do now. Yeah Apple in solitude where you gotTa do is Allah. You sound like a sociopath. Well we need to isolate here. Also we like fruit as actual sustenance. You're eating every day and fruit as colorful edition seen as still life. It's Ben Paintings for hundreds of years and now it is like a sign of. I find it very beautiful. But also aspiration that you can just have like an opulent bowling bowl of like or citrus. Yeah Right which I have often aspired to I've even tried to grow citrus trees at my New York home in order to get to that place but yeah you do have to keep them in the fridge to keep them fresh use. This has been specifies newest. Podcast the hottest fruit okay Salako Pitt's performance just pits whole like. Yeah I'm going through a lot. You know but like also I'm still the most charming guy in the room? All of his like freeze frame facial expressions premium but still great. You know they phone the one money realizes the phone. Oh Yeah yes. His liner Lonnie's incredible. I actually would have watched Rusty Ryan Hotel owner as sure your call. Maybe we can save that for. Yeah a question that comes later on. David's thirst just an incredible vibe from him in this movie like in the first one where he's like. I'm trying to get out of the shadow of my dad. Kind of like really go get is fine but this is like a great idea for the third person is to give him like this thirst. I love the idea of him. Also just in this stage of his career quickly pivoting from caving in the skulls of terrorists in Bucharest in the Bourne supremacy and then going straight to this. You know that being the the jump. That's also a sign of somebody knows what they're doing and even if he didn't really want to do this movie in the first place let me see where he was an o four so in. Here's Matt Damon this couple years here. Ocean's eleven two thousand one Jerry. Two thousand two. When's the Jerry watchable? That's is that flood. You and I live. Rewatch ables on a hike through says no Bourne identity. Oh Two confessions of a dangerous mind to stuck on you three Jersey Girl Cameo Bourne supremacy. So we'd done to born movies and came into Ocean's twelve and these guys are like you're the nerd who stands over their ducks but Emily Dickinson. Did I tell you guys that I saw Jan Sound Bob reboot which features of Matt Damon Performance as it really? Yeah two very important performances in that movie Matt Damon and Ben Affleck Back in twenty years. So that re watchable okay. Or are askew. That's right he was the best is the chemistry of the ensemble. So what do you guys think is the best? I was last That was lost. Omni. I had just kind of this group of people being together and then you look at what they've all done in fifteen percents dislike. Yep still checks out. I mean I know they accomplish most of that with Ocean's eleven but they got them all back and then the concept of movies is as an excuse for rich people have vacations. Which let's do it? Let's do more but send more people to Europe and then film. Eg Any Adam Sandler movie set Hawaii across the world. There are many beautiful places that I don't know about that. I would love to learn about through watching a movie about movie stars on vacation there. I think I would go with the first one that you suggested the feel and the style of the movie which is very different from the first. You know the first is obviously. It's a remake of RATPAC movie. It's very American. It's very casino bound. It feels like it's inside of one particular kind of world and this movie is so different stylistically and setting wise. It's much more of the Italian job and refused fee and Bob Lumber and all these other movies these Italian heist movies but with a slightly different very americanized sensibility on those movies. It has a great choice. It has mild sadness of ex of being disconnected. There's I'm not going to get into too much shots stuff. No this is a good time to talk about shots. The shot of them coming out of the hotel in Amsterdam walking past the flower store and onto the bridge right and then they're talking about like three D. Printing and stuff and then clue opens up his heart and pit just walks away. But if you watch that I watch. I rewound that jolly three times last night. It was just like and he's going behind the ear. Yeah the wrought iron like sort of girders of the bridge there was like a four second fury where you can't see anything and he just POPs up and they're they are at Sunset Amsterdam and they're just kind of like chatting with each other. I'm like Oh my God. Yeah what the hell. It's almost like a mockery of the conventions of beauty in that kind of filmmaking. Though too you know like when they're when Jerry Jones removes them from prison and then it does zoom -secutive zooms on the characters. It's almost it's like such as like on the no self Working Good Hobie like a hand held shot and then all of a sudden have ten people in the in the frame. It's it's just incredible. I think that's really important. I was thinking last night as we watch it. We always talk about like they'd quote like they don't make them like this anymore movies and usually we're talking about like they don't make an original adult drama with actors or movie stars where people get to talk to each other which this is by the way this is. They don't make kind of heist movies with this many movie stars on Location in Europe anymore. It's rare that the movies they don't make any more like look as good as this does. That's another thing where it's not just that it's like genre or type of experience of movie but like the filmmaking is extraordinary. Yeah I mean Soderbergh's say did Joseph Lucy's modesty Blaise John Frankenheimer's seconds French new wave Italian crime films. Obviously there's there's some stuff going on in here so you could pretty much just studied this movie days. Like just even like the Siwei shot of Texas plane landing in Rome after that. There's so much they don't act. What is the worst so let us do let us speak? Now of Catherine Zeta Jones. Because I think that there she is the new addition to the cast like night. Fox's just basically the Andy Garcia stand in the presence of Catherine Zeta Jones also takes. I think it's the most sombre part of the movie. It's like the heartbreak of rusty leaving her. She's pursuing them. She's getting in the way of them. Being like great whatever and then also kind of melancholy ending of the movie is essentially built around Isabel. And your mileage may vary on this. I actually find her delightful in this movie and find that. She has way more chemistry with Brad. Pitt than Julia. Roberts has with George Clooney but I could be. I could be talked out of it. I think things are very subjective. Amanda yes Catherine just to speak to the chemistry point. I think it the the Georgia actually have plenty of chemistry. But they're meant to be at a different point in their domestic you know. She's mixing paints and it has too much exposure their second three year anniversary. And they're commenting on that. I think even in the first movie that they are like like you to your to your point Julia in the penalty box for a lot of that movie. Yeah well there's some frost which is it just a different type of chemistry in my opinion but you and I were talking a bit about this last night and I think I said to you she in last night like I don't feel that she and Brad Pitt have that much chemistry but actually wrong and I just wanted on the record that I met at that. I was wrong about something. It's not. Let me you that. This is being recorded. I just went on the record but it's more like I want you to remember it the next time that you try to tell me that. I'm stubborn or something anyway. I was wrong about that. They do have chemistry. It's just that when you're in the you're not in the high seas you're not in the ocean's twelve and that's just you don't. WanNa she's great and I and she's beautiful and they do have chemistry but and you don't really care you want to be spending time with other guys. Love the shot of Europol. The species giving goes into the Office. I think that trying to land the Isabella's actually lamarcus thing. At the lamarque daughter at the end of the movie is a little bit of a bridge. Too Far I think it just is very convenient but I guess it also brings her back to rusty. I don't know how do you feel about Catherine Zeta Jones in this movie? I guess I'm just thinking about how I feel about her. In general which is I just don't and I. That's not a criticism of her. She's just she's not well served by the fact that she is operating against not only an iconic collection of actors and movie stars but a group of people that got to do this once before and I mean her career is just a very strange career. She's worked SODERBERGH A lot. She has I think this is her third or this side effects and they were supposed to make a movie about Cleopatra Together. Yeah I think You know she hasn't made a movie in seven years and I think she's a person who is kind of evaporating from the popular consciousness which is not not a bad thing. I'm sure it was her decision to do. So though a lot of women as they get older and Hollywood get fewer and fewer opportunities to make movies but at this time she was really really really really big movies. Don't I mean this is just two years after Chicago so it's interesting to try to wedge and you needed somebody who has like wait gravitas a kind of cleverness in her acting persona which she does like? That's kind of how she became more popular American movie stars or movies and she needed to be more playful. So she fits. I'm not personally bothered by trying to stitch her to mark in the movie because I think what they're trying to say is like rock crooks and she needs to be a crook at the end when they're all having the party as an actor. I I think the best thing she's ever done that's even high fidelity where she's just like so cold and in control John Zach and I still like when she's driving in traffic and she's like shoot him in the head that's kind of my ideal woman. Unbanned okay so we were kind of mixed there. I found myself quite quite into her in this movie on rewatch casting. What if there really aren't any obviously because there's there's a very established thirteen or fourteen percent cast this movie but there was a backup plan if salmon had not done the phone yes recast or if it was. Gimme a different character but mark Wahlberg was lined up to replace Damon who consider backing out of the movie coming off of a demanding born movie shoot. Is this a bit like? Is this real? I don't know this is like like. Why would this get out the these when you read the the Promo interviews around this and you watch the videos around Ocean's twelve it's like a like a fucked up Preston sturges movie like they're just doing bits the entire time they they like are completely just like doing third-level inside jokes with each other and pranking and so I I don't know if Mark Wahlberg was GONNA be in? This movie has ever been in movie. I don't think so. Though it's interesting that he and Damon have a showdown a couple of years later in the depart- that's right that's right. I don't think he's done the SODERBERGH. Not really his tempo. Yeah let's say as opposed to doing anymore casting. What ifs since. We don't really have any Should we do? Who Do you think you are notions? Eleven and who? Are you actually sure? Oh God or ocean can ocean's twelve to auction off right okay. I mean if you WanNa pick is about me. I just want that option fix. Yeah I'm the I'm mark. I'm just reading the Financial Times on the south coast of Portugal. Can you can you start? I have a feeling I would like to be rusty. Obviously I like to eat all day long like that. I'd love to be that cool under pressure I love to you know everything. The Brad Pitt is I think it's aspirational in reality. I probably see myself more as linus but I'm probably more like Virgil or Turk. I in my daily office thing. I'm probably most like Virgil. Casey Affleck visible athlete. Very Very. Give you a million dollars if you don't speak for a month. I'd say things like that all. Yeah that's the sad thing I mean. I don't know who I don't even know who I WANNA be. I fear at times that you and I are Turkish. Virgil genuine concerns that I imagined myself to be a very important person with pulling off big schemes. Right but really. I'm just a couple of of dopes. Amanda I mean there's where you WanNa be which I think probably I don't know whether you want it. I want to be a rusty or a clooney but I think I'm probably the Night Fox in this. You're the greatest November Komo. I'm not ultimately why I am A loner who likes to do activities that involve stretching men wants to do yoga and wants to be in Europe and wants to be told that I'm great and doesn't play well with others. I mean probably okay. Fierce all right. Let's go to the world in which we can get the world's greatest podcast an invite that onto a boat and invite a mand onto a boat and let them have a conversation and if someone decides that a man is not the greatest podcast around the world. Will she then set out to become the greatest? Podcasts world allow the knife s when mirror and asks you who are your guys. Would you come up with Dion waiters award? I think this is pretty easy nominees. I've three okay Jerry. Jones Albert. Finney Bruce Willis Bruce Willis wins. Tell me I'm wrong. Debate me cowardice. Andy Garcia eligible for this. Do you think Andy Garcia should win it? More than Bruce Willis or do you just want to just opened the pool. Maybe I just wanted to talk about it. I like I like sometimes. With some of these categories for dion waiters especially. I think that I like to keep it tight. Field disagree okay. Okay understands the whole premise of the show can say not to be the best podcast show in the world but maybe we should give me some other nominees. I just wanted to say I. Sean pointed out earlier. That the scene where they're kind of rounding up they're getting the game back together and that is through. Terry Benedict and is great in all of those scenes and especially when he goes to see Virgil and Turk and gives that speech about you know this is a this is about honor and responsibility and about a very special someone and admitting to her in front of everybody that her wedding and that very special honeymoon trip to cut to postpone also stabbing everybody. Who's fucking came. It's really I just wanted to to mention an honor that that scene is linke one of my favorites to virgil goes through the entire table. Thanks mullet heads. Thanks Joe Joe and all the guys who work at the shot and then like pauses Scott gone is like everybody else one beautiful. Shut down the team on your cialis. Batman's he's like thanking his bishop and I think we've overlooked eddy izard Robbie Coltrane okay okay. Then they may appear in other categories but yes okay but you don't think that there so I think that they may be too famous for future. Joey pants yeah. Okay I mean Eddy. Izard is like an internationally acclaimed comedian. I mean Albert. Finney is quite famous. Yes I agree. But we're not naming him of that Guy Right okay interesting. He belongs to Indian. Waiter Gotcha. Okay. I don't think that they should win. I'm not even really gonNA quibble. With Bruce Willis with Bruce Willis. But you know there's just something about pacing here you know we got out and have some discussion before you can host thirteen okay. Parking energy woods thrown out. Jeroen crab I see what about Jared Harris as bashers engineering amazing. Yeah great stuff. It's just like that's just fantastic stuff. I don't even know like that's also just soderbergh on the Jared Harris Trine ten years before Chernobyl eighteen years before. I'm still GONNA give it to Bruce Willis Apex Mountain. Here's some nominees boy Brad Pitt. He is clearly pretty miserable around this time I think. His life is starting to become very scrutinized He's making movies like troy which while successful he does not seem very happy to be in Mr and Mrs Smith essentially blows up his life but he is very famous and if we're talking about Apex Mountain as people being on like a peak of some sort of career power trip. I think you could make the argument. Ocean's twelve is Brad Pitt's apex mountain some other nominees Arsenal F C. I thought of this. I was wondering if you would mention this given your your Liverpool fandom. I don't mind okay when you when you look for our thirty points. Ahead of Arsenal in the premier league table Arsenal can get all the shout outs. That's why you brought it up. Yes no but I would say that. I wonder how many like Americans saw that and we're like what's arsenal and kind of got an arsenal that way to the Champions League every reason to get mad at me I think. They went the next year to the final against Barcelona which they lost using. Soderbergh made that happen. I think he caught a wave. Just like Jared Harris. He got the wave early with Arsenal member of the sort of the afterglow of the men in blazers boom when everybody in New York City was like what I do is wake up at five thirty. Am Bar to watch Liverpool play Arsenal. Like fucking demon your time style stories about that as a lifestyle choice. Yeah do you think it was inspired by this stuff in the IT's possible? I think I think that this movie brought a lot of European customs to the states. That's seems like a lot of credit to move people. Their hearts weren't open to the European custom. Is this Apex Mountain for the city of Amsterdam? I mean just. You Know Scrape Call Navy veteran Amsterdam cinematic history. Yeah Cinematic Apex Right okay. Obviously I'm the I'm not a scholar. Credible dykes okay. And they did incredible stuff with city. Planning the bicycling is great obviously at the forefront of of legal marijuana so not the opening of the Van Gogh Museum for example. Did you just Google that have Amsterdam facts about it? Tell me all about what's better about Amsterdam than being an ocean. What's Stoorikhel city? Yeah yeah okay with elegant design and a deep underbelly and that's what's amazing about it. Which is why. It's a great setting for this film. But this film is a piece of Hollywood claptrap. And you're shitting. On a thousand years of artistry and Architectural Brilliance. Let's say what about Lake Como in this spot because I at least Lake Como and popularized Komen consciousness because this is also kind of American consciousness and I think Clooney as magazine Guy. It's at the same time he when this was happening. She's bought the house in my coma and now it's in this movie. People are confusing dating a wrestler back. Then sound like he was dating gorgeous. George the Nineteen Fifties Stacey Keebler. I believe the nameless okay. I'm just I was always. I was always into that couple. He was dating What was the the Englishwoman? Snow Snowden wasn't there wasn't that his longtime paramore before Stacey Keebler now I remember. I'm sure this is really your corner. Yeah but it. It's he never really had to pay attention to that. Until you had to pay attention to that. He was able to have impeccable taste and and good for him and good for everyone who was involved and got to visit Lake Como which is something. I still have been able to do so no judgment. I don't remember any other Apex Mountains before I give it to Amsterdam a city. I mean you really stretching out here. Should we say all of humankind planet earth? I think you could make an argument for a certain kind of silk shirt. It's Apex Mountain yet. So I wanted to talk about. Brad's shirts okay. I mentioned earlier his clothing. And whether it's like a joke and there's the Gigolo bit in the movie he he's wearing at one point a shiny eggshell colored shirt That no living human should wear except for Brad Pitt. Yes but kind of purple tint one. No there's well maybe the shine puts a kind of right gleam on it. Do you will see Brad Pitt and movies and think I WANNA do like I wanNA less like that. It's like I WANNA be handsome. I WANNA get his clothes. I WANNA cut my hair that way because on the first Ocean's eleven podcasts. I said George Clooney. My hair is the person who in movies when he's like really cleaned up and looking debonair. I aspire to that but in this movie he Bradford is doing everything I don't like he has a shaved head. He's looked so gaudy and stupid eating all the time. But he looks immaculate. Yes well you'll like eating all the time I you know I don't yeah. Yeah but I didn't know if maybe you were like except if I have my fruit bowl aforementioned yeah. I don't think that this is let me. Just go ahead and say this for the record for the record it's reporting. Do you want us to do what I want people to hear me and pay attention? If you take anything away from this podcast takeaway this. We delete this starting now. Delete go ahead. Ocean's twelve is not a how to manual. Okay it's dolts heist this way and frankly unless you're Brad Pitt. Don't dress like Brad Pitt. In this movie I just it's there. He is art and that is that is fashion art that his existence as art. It's much like the fruit bowl okay. We're just all getting to enjoy it much. Like we enjoyed their cultural history of Amsterdam Coma. Anything else for your pets on this film in this movie. What else is Apex Mountain Microorganisms mandated? You have I don't think so I. This is like a takeoff time for him but yeah I don't know if I mean he is coming off Bourne. I think it's it's around that but I wouldn't necessarily call this movie. Okay I think him. Cutting funke potential hair and the foreign movies apex confused Famke Janssen with Franca potential. I did which could get though thank you. Hey by the way for dion waiters. Yeah I fucked up. Because we didn't talk about so for grace for one scene girl I love. I love her but she is driving me crazy. I can't sleep I can't work. I quit the show. I totally phoned in that Dennis Quaid movie. That movie did with Dennis Quaid phone. That okay so Apex Mountain Brad Pitt. Let's say that okay. Joey Pants Jared Harris as bashers engineer. Jerry Jones is linus his mom Robbie Coltrane as Matsui are all three of those people to famous possibly but in two thousand and four. I don't think they weren't really well. Okay isn't yet point of order for the record. Whatever you memento would like it to be. Does Joey Pants? Do we talk about it in the moment? Talking about of all time I sean. That's a great question. Because you're right Jerry Jones. Even in the last fifteen years has somehow become. Obviously she was a playwright and stage. Actor was a you know an accomplished person but not in the popular consciousness out I don't think so. I think that is two thousand eight. She's in the play doubt but not in the movie. Meryl Streep took the Roll Man. I don't know that's a good question. She had two thousand four. The play part of Mountain. Jerry Jones is part of it is that you want the person. You're giving Joey Pants to to always be in that Joey Pinch Zone. You don't want the River Sean. Joey pants never really made a Chernobyl. You know what I mean. What was Robbie? Coltrane's detective series on the BBC? Remember it was like Anani for years. I watch it all the time. It was good. I can't remember the name of the Frick furhter murderers or whatever. It's like what all those things are. Sounds downstairs one. Guy's name down tracker cracker. Yes You Watch. I liked cracker you. Okay big anglophile. Am I missing any Joe? Joey pants as though no. It's the thing where every row in crab I guess you but every single person just becomes like tremendously famous or is already tremendously famous. I can't think of anyone. I'M GONNA give it to churches. I think that's fair. Linda Partridge they knew overacting award to be changed the give Pacino and he Tom Tom Renew your bag. Did I have a specific line from it? Yeah it was when he's at he's sitting across the table from that guy and he's like it's armor be rising. You'll probably leave a note right on the door overacting award dedicated to Al Pacino's performance and he just a i. I knew I was going to do it and I was. I was just kind of trying to set you guys up this okay practice at home. No I've just done to fucking hundred minute. Podcast on heat. I know the entire movie. I'm like I'm just like Leonardo di Caprio in like a ring bring me. Some shirts wave ohs but there's still opportunities beyond these podcasts. Where you get to this. I do it all the time to. That's what I let me tell you you have an age. Today you are a master. Don't ever change. I don't really find anybody to be overdoing it and this movie. That's the point of this movie is that everyone is undoing. So I don't really know what to say. I guess. Lake Albert Finney overdoing those Red Pants. Is You overacting? I Dunno extremes on the boat. No and he's like wait. Wait for her. And she's wearing readdress knees wearing the red path. We don't hear one trump speak but I can see these overdose. You're okay Jerry. Weintraub has Internet research. The Ocean's twelve story was taken from George. No fees honor among thieves. Spec script that one time was going to be made by John. Woo No theory wrote the movie to fit the oceans characters. This is not uncommon The second best die hard movie was the same thing it was. Simon says and it was just about some other shit happening and they're like die hard movie reread it. Peter Fonda filmed a scene as lioness's dad but it was cut from the movie and he was replaced in the role by Bob. Einstein Aka Super Dave Osborne Aka Marty funkhouser in ocean's thirteen speaking of curb sober. I bet is a curb guy. No doubt well I know you never know. You've never seen it on. The diaries mean I guess it. Too much below deck. There was that is true. He he he didn't watch the most recent season recently. I think because. I don't think it was on the cultured. Ira Shame on everyone. Who Doesn't Much Kerr? Jeez referenced in Ocean's twelve an incomplete list six cents in good company that Dennis Quaid Movie For Grace's referring to Miller's crossing explicitly referenced obviously Sin Medically any films are referenced breaks my heart every time. That's exactly how I feel when I watched. That seem Johnson thorough begging for his life. Recasting couch is there anybody that you would slot in as Isabel? Harry Amanda no because I think the and I don't WanNa the problem because I really enjoy it but the issue is not Catherine Zeta Jones. But the fact that this character is having to do a lot of work that doesn't relate to the ocean's twelve that's my stance. Angelina Jolie as Isabella here. Better or worst movie Noisier certainly I'm not sure if it's better movie my suggestion was going to be Rachel Vice. Logano four how old is she you know for. She wins an Oscar for years later. Constant Gardener so Carter great movie great movie. I mean I like the Julie of it all just from A. It's early for the Meta text of that but you know kick it off a bit and they do have chemistry so picking nets. I already said mine which is explained to me if Julia if test looks like Julia. Roberts are the other guys. D'appel gainers for their Hollywood lookalikes. I mean a-. We need to get soderbergh in here to explain and George Dulcie to explain himself. You guessing Georgia no fees the adjustment bureau. The hats yeah remember that. Do you have any picking nets? Yeah I have a couple. Oh well here's just one thing I don't understand maybe you can explain it to me or maybe someone who understand technology I just. How do you identify someone from a random blueprint that you're just finding on the street? That's I don't believe that's what happened. Well she identifies the blueprint and then she's like and then we then we credit card. And how are you linking the BOOT print? It is also in the interest in which is great. Which is the flashback and Brad Pitt? Comes in and Catherine Zeta Jones. Says that she's about. She has a break on the Bulgaria case and they found a really good left Boot print and they cut to Brad Pitt's BOOT which is worn down in the exact way she's smiling and they put in. He's just like loops and flies under the chair. I just don't really understand. I don't understand that technology. Yeah I thought. The implication was that they got frank and frank dimed on them somehow. Like wasn't it that. They Got Frank. Because Frank was going to the Nail Salon Yarmulke credit card on them. I don't know she just knows his shoe size and location. Her Brad Pitt was a size fourteen. No I think it's just that she's like she's she mentions that the blueprint was found at the Bulgari job or whatever it was and then I think there's in. The implication is like she finds the size fourteen Magnum boot and then like runs a check on all magnum boots bought in Amsterdam In the last week and like Zip back to a stolen credit card that had been used at a nail salon chat to been frank but she also knew that Russ. Is there watching her? So that's probably this larger net pet which is just her knowledge base. In general. She knows both everything and nothing at all times. She's just like the Night Fox was here but also I don't know the Night Fox's name or what he looks like I'm just like Ma'am it's two thousand and four and you work at Europol. Scans of some. You can track a blueprint and you can probably find good point and and Osha Danny Ocean finds out who the night. Fox's and like four hours and. She knows that they raised the roof because she's the daughter Master Shulan John Ever. She can tell that the Americans were here. She clearly understands a lot about thieves but also nothing about the well. Let's because their hearts. Yeah that's true. You think we should delete this. Podcast is I have one more thing okay. Famous like the COP waitressing which I think is like a visually very memorable piece of this movie. But he gets hit by forty five lasers he gets hit by so many lasers he does. I think he looks very graceful. And it's very impressive and this is probably where I learned about cap whereas but Do Vincent Cassel do any of that work. I did not see that in my research. He doesn't at the very end. I think he looks Nice. I think he's definitely training when they show him doing like the close ups of him doing that. I don't know I don't think he did the entire. Where do you guys stand on Vincent? Cassel? I Open. I'm sorry to that man. Look I take. I take offense to Kosovo. I feel like I get sixty percent of him in English language movies. I don't feel like he's as a motive as he could be as he is in his native tongue. I see kind of like reading things in translations sometimes we were like what am I missing here in crime and punishment? When do you think we'll do the irreversible watchable best? This is what I this is probably category. Most looking forward to Are you hosting telephone? We don't know about look. It's not in my nature of a mysterious. I can't talk about it and I can't talk about. Why Rusty that precede that follows my favorite part when he says if you're going to ask me a question give me time to respond unless you're asking rhetorically in which case the answer is obvious. Yes taken I ask you something you ever notice that you're going to ask. You can ask me a question. Give me time to respond less. You're asking rhetorically. In which case the answer is obvious. Yes okay can I ask you? Thanks you ever noticed. The past looks. Don't ever ask that ever seriously not to anyone especially not wait. Why Not Turk Camman? He's one guy he's French Linus. We can't train a cat that quickly. Linus Bruce Glenn's neck well for publicity enrolled Bruce Snack will publicity. I'm a big fan huge. He's fired marcy. My favorite absolute favorite moment in the movie linus. We're looking to come off this baby things strong. We're we're we're we're GONNA come off this baby thing strong. You know that little statue in the mantle starts smirking at you after a while. You know what I'm saying. Sorry Bruce Willis doctor. You might want to call the rice paddy. Now I mean I. I wasn't in four weddings funeral. I wasn't in four weddings and a funeral. Protect your baby and then the follow up to that which is just protect. Your Fake Baby. Yes. It's a very special moment. Yeah I mean. The thing is is in interplay movie. And it's obviously a hilariously constructed but it does feel like you were saying during the Julia Roberts seen it feels like they're kind of riffing in real time so some of the lines are memorable. But it's just the says an energy you want to be inside of sequences not single sentences. What is Casey Affleck? It just hurts. You know because I thought we all agreed to call it the Balaj job. It just hurts because it seemed like we all agreed to call the benedict. I mean that's what we it and we were doing it if you wanted to call it something else though along and when you have a problem there's also a good line when Scott Caan in that scene is like he doesn't have any money and he's like well you've obviously never try to create something for Could this be remade? What's the best quote? Got Mines four weddings. Okay I think Glenn Snack. Well is pretty up there okay. Definitely my favorite sprinkles neck. Well Bruce Glint snack well publicity. Could this be remained as a ten episode Netflix? Show get the fuck Outta here. Probably UNANSWERABLE QUESTIONS. We would you. Would you watch the ten heists of the Night Fox as a Netflix series? Now I mean sure but like I watch anything but like I think Steven soderbergh directing it is this his bounty law where he's doing this where I would much rather watch a different European city every episode. Yeah Rusty running the standard is what I WANNA watch. That's really what separates you and I probably unanswerable questions. I this is Kinda come up. Otherwise but how did Danny get all the biographical details about the most mythical reclusive thief in the world the night flux when he was just his name's Laura? He's done all these jobs. Here's where he lives. How To wikipedia pitch? I guess. It's like an underworld connector. Whatever that's what it seems like because they keep talking about how you broke rule number one. Which is you don't if so. Maybe the world helped him out. Who in the movie I think you can make the case for pit. I think you can make the case for Damon and I definitely think you could make the case for Soderbergh. I think for me. It's either. Damon are soderbergh because those are both in a moment. When you're watching it the Damon stuff just jumps off the screen. And he almost wasn't GonNa do it so in that sense like the the risk paid off given the way that you suggested some of the Apex Mount Winners I think. Perhaps the long term health of our global population could have won the movie because of this film's existence our democratic process. Yeah here in the United States. This movie responsible for Obama winning wait. I mean. Europe is definitely a contender for winning this movie. I like that. I liked that I liked that. I liked that she Europe. Yeah I mean this is right before the fall to you know just poverty soderbergh because I feel like the first movie is a movie star movie and this is a director movie. I think it's really snazzy. I think it's just like there's no wasted shots. It's gorgeous to look at. There's so many inventive. All things going on he does so much stuff. That's just like always in service of the story but really really fun to watch the reason I watch. Ocean's twelve is stuff like that so I'm GonNa go soderbergh but I respectfully allow you guys to disagree. You allow us as hosts hosting. You've been judging and correcting our opinions this whole time. That's how this works. I'm GonNa go with Craig and we're going to record a full pot of the history of Amsterdam why Oceans Amsterdam. Now if you've been to the rights museum boy using the night. Watch Chris. Ryan started nightwatch extrordinary painting at the news. And I haven't been to Amsterdam Okay Your Shit together next time you make a podcast camera. I want the movie real. Jesus I think the emotional sanctity of humanity emerges at the end of this film. I wouldn't do this to you. Thrive I thought you definitely demand. Europe idea was was very good. I kinda had did. We have Italy. Let one talented Mister Ripley. It's a theme among the movies that I love on this podcast amounts died in Europe demanding. All right so soderbergh Europe frigging co-winners. Sorry Brad Pitt. Sorry Matt Damon. Brad got his office with all these guys have Oscars did not talk about Clooney almost at all this past hardly in the mood and it's okay. That's okay right. I think we talked about George. Clooney a lot on the air. Podcast network a big fan of George Clooney George Weirdly entering similar spaces. Catherine Zeta Jones been a long time since he made a movie. He's got a movie coming out on net flicks this year. I think it's called the night sky. You think it'll ever be remarkable if I had to. Yeah no but I still love him for. Shaun for Amanda. I'm Chris Ryan has been the Rajpal Ocean's twelve. Thanks so much for listening.

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Tre Ciccio Opens and Radio 1 Visits  Episode 128

This is Rammy - the podcast about Ramsbottom, its residents and businesses.

21:13 min | 1 year ago

Tre Ciccio Opens and Radio 1 Visits Episode 128

"Talk Radio One visit Ramsbottom as well as that trade. She chose now opened. This is Romi. This is Romi your locally produced weekly podcast bringing news interviews and information from US around spa similar with your host. Les Welcome to another episode of this. Is Your podcast ramsbottom and the local area. I'm hi I'm Leah. I'm your host. I am you'll gateway your gatekeeper to Ramsbotham thereabouts with regards to this podcast. If you've never listened to the podcast before fool than I basically go through a few of the things that's going on in and around Ramsbotham now and again you'll get an interview of lifting Ramsbotham for a few years now and I hope to be able to kind of if you don't live in rooms but will give you an idea of what what is like or if you do live Ramsbotham then give you some of a bit of perfect information and useful useful tips and things so Let's get on with the show so this week in Rum's wasn't well technically last week in Ramsbottom. The newest restaurant chain chief trae Chico opened now. If you do want to know how to pronounce I'll say as I clearly need to find out some information on their facebook page of a video that says exactly how you can actually pronounce trae Chico so is the newest is a Italian restaurant. You might have guessed from the name I have mentioned before on the podcast books. I was rang up through the week by Manchester confidential. I'm told that I'd been successful and I'd won their competition for a table who four which was due to be on their actual opening night which kind of slipped a little bit potato there was supposed to have the opening night on the Wednesday and like pre event that I was originally supposed to go to the Tuesday so long story short I wouldn't this table for full and it turned out after after we had the mail it was actually the full full bill everything which was amazing because I was expecting. I was expensive food you to be free but wasn't necessarily expecting drink to be free but yeah everything was free which was ashamed. I actually had to drive after the event otherwise would have byung been able to sample all the wine and things there as well but yet the it was it was really good. Well well-cared-for well looked-after on the night but there was a couple of things. I guess we wouldn't necessarily expected. I I in all honesty. I enjoyed the meal the meal it was great that I wasn't a big fan of chicken. Chicken's not don't mind chicken as a as an actual food but I'm really I really can't be bothered with loads of bones and things and messing around taking bits out here in the even even on like I roast host Sunday roast. I just called me full. See I just come by the give me give me a chicken breast fine but yeah legs and wings and all just having to negotiate around the bones so because of that I ordered the Pizza Chad. Some of the pizza with my wife and I took some chicken which is how I know what she is like like the pizza I ordered was. I'm going to butcher this now solid Nitsana. I think he's how you pronounce it with thereabouts the bread or at least the pizza basis races fantastic quite possibly the best piece of basis. I've ever had on anywhere now have not been to Italy myself quite possibly the best pizza bases I've ever had and we started with like pizza dough. When when the meal I came out so we kind of had had an idea reveal guy you know what what to expect and yes so thankfully it was exactly the same type of base when the pizza's actually came out one negative with the pizza was. I wasn't quite ready for how they were so the pizzas themselves. I'm pretty large for for what you for what you pay and the the the obviously they've been cooked in the oven. It was klay over know what what a big pizza oven in there which is a beautiful thing to look whilst we're talking about looking at things the whole a refit that they've done that trait. Eacho is absolutely top class. He's absolutely fantastic. It wouldn't look a place if you slept it right in the middle of an expensive part of Manchester all Londono aware of ace top class kitchen out of the dome. We sat downstairs on the ground level when you go in which if you've got the options a soap stairs. I would recommend that we had a look upstairs to see the roof Terrasson Rayson and everything and yet. It's it's really big it was it was buzzing on the night that is really huge actually upstairs capatin eh downstairs at least but yeah so does does on the ground floor on the left. is you go in. You've got lovely bar really really Longley bothered. Gall all sets up the kitchens directly confronts of you can see oversold activity and things going on there and then upstairs is the barber upstairs as well and lots more seating and the roof upstairs pulls back as well so when it gets to when it gets a bit walmer overseas where in March so it's still not not really pulling the kind of whether yet but yet the decker and everything that's done topnotch. really really good quality at the food is is good as well. I have like I say I've really liked the pizza base. I really liked The chicken was tasty but I just can't be bolted fiddling around with bones. If you're getting older repeats a be prepared for it to be a little bit sloppier than you might necessary then you might have expected so the pizza pizza wheel you get like a little pizza knife thing a little bit like a like. A cheese knife. Put together pizza knife so that's easy enough to cut through but you have to kind of no co two. Maybe it's me maybe just greedy but if you see a fairly large slice then you kind of have to let you see on films and things in New York where the big slice of pizza and they fold in half or whatever Yacky Kinda have to do that and also kind of fold the end over the pointy bit once you've you slice of pizza otherwise the source will kind of drip onto yes. That's that's the mistake I made. I was a big slice open. Put it towards my face and I think I ended up spilling down face and on the table so yeah be prepared for a slightly a slightly wet pizza. It's not it's not hard. Crispy as I've been told is not how pizza is supposed to be apparently but it's not hard and Krispy they are but sloppy so the prepared to get stuck in with your fingers and and have a high handkerchief for a napkin probably more appropriate ready chicken again the potatoes really nicely with the chicken and then we had a attacked Allah Lotto so so chocolate tart for dessert and really rich really really nice chocolate ta chocolates soft on the on the middle of that so that's really nice the people who with like friends and stuff they had so do the thing the slightly surprise in as the on on the desert side of things so one one of our friends ordered a Panna cotta now. If I asked you jor Mocatta right now you would probably draw something similar to blow monge or something along those lines a kind of mound slightly. Gillette PSOMAS does a does that's not how it comes at Trae Chico. It's more like a is it like a yogurt. T- CREAMY them punish Qatar led to believe is vanilla flavor as you'd expect to Malacca. Soft Vanilla cream pudding than than you would expect back to like something with give. We did ask about it at the time. Apparently that's how supposed to be now. I did some research afterwards. You can do the research itself if you go into Google image search just hyper typing panna cotta. Let's see how many images come up the the wobbly Milky Jelly. They structure compared to the creamy one. You'd probably find the majority now. It could just very well be that the people in restaurants and things. I like that that make that form of Ponta cutter very very good at social media. Sorry not social media search engine optimization. Oh it could be that technically. There are more people making this jelly form of pentecostal than than the creamy one. I did find a youtube video video where where somebody is actually making or has instructions on how to make one of these parameters as you would get from trae. Chico I did ask an Italian friend of mine and said well I I. This is common cause. She's telling you I'm clearly not on. I said what's your opinion on this and she said I'm sure it was nice but that's not mccotter so she. He said there's not pentecostal. Now I do know that the the meals in Italy or at least the food ranges in Italy from region to region but that we go all all in all trade show has opened a really really good good Italian and a great welcome to Ramsbotham. I do like new new restaurants opening Enron's plus especially when they're a little bit difference what we've already got but yeah. I'm hoping to bring more food is in from all over the area and will will end up bringing in more business ramsbottom too so is is a good thing do check out the show notes for this episode linked to full review that I posted on the website and me Freddie already but yeah that's kind of my opinion. I'd say in a nutshell. That's been like almost ten minutes now it was it was really nice. if you do get to go the I would recommend it. It's not the cheapest place in the world. I think the pizzas are about eleven. I think there are about eleven fifty s from not twelve quit and the the stars and things have six. I think five or six hundred so these slightly more than kind view Pizza Express type thing I would say is is better. It's definitely bettman. UPS are expressed so welcome Tracy Chou to Ramsbottom and and hopefully everybody gets a chance to try you up so one of the things that happened. This week was on the Thursday. Radio One came to Ramsbottom. Why did radio welcome to Ramsbottom now. It's only a couple of weeks ago in the PODCAST. I mentioned we we were listed not listed. We mentioned on absolute radio. If you check out at episode I think is one to six hundred twenty six. You'll find a Lincoln in conduct quote in there as well but this time Jordan north from the BBC Breakfast Radio One this this show basically was coming to ramsbottom and the entire reason they were coming to rams to collect jokes now. Why did they choose Rumsfeld. I chose Ramsbotham because we've got bottom in our name. We a town with a funny name. That's basically why they came here. They had just been visiting NOB end in Bolton and on the way through Nob end they came to see the Rams Bosso and there's a few local local people at managed to get their jokes submitted. I filled out a piece of paper in the. I don't think the joke will go in the book but we'll say because it's the Lulla thon is what they're calling. Is this big joke book because Scott Mills in Chris Stark. I don't know who Chris DOC is or account. Remember for looked him upon up. I know who's got nails as and they're doing a twenty four hour light lawless on which is basically the telling jokes twenty four hours for for comic relief so I gave my submission and also you might be familiar with a certain Ashley Mole. He is a delivery driver lives in Ramsbotham is very very very popular on facebook and the various Ramsbotham groups he he submitted a joke to the to the book as well and on the radio and I check out the link to the article or at least the post on the website of created. I've also got cut off the actual show of a took all of the bits related to them visiting ramsbottom inland leaving nub end low enough put it all in the show no I haven't put it in show up in the bum of the post host for when they visited rumour two and yeah I'm GonNa put it here because like fourteen minutes longer than a bit long so now moving onto a regular section which is the Ramsbottom United News now. It was joyous last episode of the PODCAST. I said this we've we are now moved up to fifth. I think was sick last time a look at it is in the playoff the off position so there is a. I don't want to jinx it but there is a chance you might end up either in the playoffs so in if we keep doing well then we might even end up in promotion emotion ultimately promotion area. So why did I say. Why did I say this. I don't want to jinx. Why did I say that because the last too much is that we've played at Ramsbottom. Have we've lost them. Both we played at home to against Colne on on Tuesday the twenty sixth of February where we lost three one and then the lust or at least the latest much was we were also home to a witness where where we lost one nil now the guys they play hot. can can fully accept that some of these teams are not as easy as they would see if you just to look at the table that particular example witness currently Satan in twelfth having played twenty nine Games and colne are now assisting in seventh week. We're currently sixth. We've Played Twenty Eight Games Colin of played twenty eight games and with both sitting on fifty one points Leek Town Hound who had did talk about in the previous episode. They also have fifty one points but they've only played twenty seven matches so it's a little dip a little dip in form. We've got we've got other. Much is coming up. We can pull it back at the next three matches. We've are all away matches so there's no more Eh We'll be much is but the next three a three away much Saturday the ninth of March where away to clitoral. That's a three o'clock kick-off then the following that we've got Saturday. The sixteenth of botch were away to chase town us another three o'clock kick-off and then we've got drills away on Tuesday used as the nineteenth of March. We've got a quarter to eight kickoff. Obviously it's Tuesday is a midweek match to give you an example. We've clipper always the next much. They're currently sitting in eighteenth in the league. Let's use the row is a good way of gave back-and-forth Waco good away form record at the moment so the settlers hopefully that Clinton away much will be a good one. It's not too far. Weights not exactly south coast is it chased town are currently play. This'll be an interesting one that currently thirteenth just below a witness in the league the played thirty matches. It'd be a good match there as well and then we've got drills didn't again. Drostan is fourteenth so we've got three teams which are all lower than witness currently so we've got bad team in thirteenth fourteenth and eighteenth in the Lake Como La.. Let's have these next three matches three. Goodwin's pulls back into good form and hopefully hopefully I felt. Let's have a look at what Leek town who who's what who leaked town of course coming up next to Leek town of kids grove athletic coming up Colwyn Bay and other ten calories so let's have a look runcorn athletic. Arthur and on sorry kids grove us. Let's it go currently eleven th us who that playing isn't it we've also got the Leek Town are playing Colin. Bay a AH tenth and others in calories are number one so leek town of three really tough matches coming up competitive our our next three matches so we might we might just do it but if a jump they're overly town put. Yeah I'M GONNA make sure on keep. My mouth shut a future. I don't say four letter word. No swearword in fact has size sounded but now is four. Let's world-beating Jay. I'M NOT GONNA sign up right so let's move onto the other regular regular episode strange isn't it the other regular segment of the show and and not as the upcoming events so aw we've got one oak coming event of of note Nazis that we're coming up to the second Sunday. They have to month so Sunday. The tenth of March is the second Sunday the month so that is the ramsbottom market it takes takes place in and around the so if you listen to that radio one episode they called it the big vase which is sort of right we call it. The Eh is technically the tilted vase but yeah around marketplace just opposite trade show in fact you will find they raise the rams brought to market. I am I am certain that trae teacher will be doing something or you know some kind of way of getting people through the door on on the night now that they did particularly need to I got lots of people going in but yet do please do check out J. Cheech. Oh I would love to know what you think an a say he's really interesting and I do like the that. We've now got at least two Italian restaurants in rooms but yet Ramsbotham markets autozone farmers market thing. I forget what they call it now. Would they call it the collate. I think he's just runs won't found was mark is a UH yeah. Rounds won't farmers market for March so much tenth. Sundays always the second Sunday the month as half past nine in the morning until half past two in the afternoon so please do check that out so speaking of out. I'm going to end the podcast episode. Hey One last thing actually before all right go if if you have a business or have something interesting you'd like to talk on the show than I am always looking for interviews and such force so please do get in touch each you'll find all of the contact details on this is Ramadan Coda. UK voiceless contact or just go to the website and click on the contacts Lincoln the menu. If you think you have a story that's nonsense everybody's story. I just I just want more people to hear about you and your business especially if you've got there's no charge for interviews as I don't. I don't charge for anything on the PUCK. 'cause he's done it my own time and my own my own finances as well so please do. It gets in touch and show sort something out so yes. That's it. I'm going to drop off now and thanks for listening again to this is Romi and I shall speak to you again too. 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Homecoming

Pop Culture Happy Hour

25:27 min | 2 years ago

Homecoming

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything. I everybody. This is Linda from pop culture. Happy hour. I'm here with Steven. Hi, Stephen her Lou, Linda, and we want to let you know that we have an upcoming live show in Brooklyn vitally. That's right. We're going to be at the Brooklyn podcast festival. It's on Saturday. January twelfth at five PM at the bell house favorite spot. Love that place. Yeah. And tickets are on sale, Stephen Dino where they can get tickets tickets at NPR presents dot org. We have always sold out the bell house in hours. So please go ahead and get those tickets ASAP at NPR presents dot org. Again, bell house January twelfth five PM we will have quiz. We will have guest is going to be a lot of fun. Come see us in Brooklyn. In the zone thriller homecoming. Julia Roberts plays a caseworker out of silly that helps soldiers readjust to civilian life or at least. That's what they say. It does but calls from a mysterious boss sessions with a young soldier make this caseworker question every homecoming has an interesting pedigree. It's directed by Sam 's mile who makes mister robot, and it's based on a fiction podcast from Gimblett media that launched in two thousand sixteen I'm Stephen Thompson. And I'm Linda Holmes today. We're talking about the new Amazon series homecoming. So come right back. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Baba's Bomba's has re engineered socks for alternate. Comfort by getting rid of that annoying toe seam adding arch support and using some of the world's softest kind. And for every pair purchased. Bomba's? Donates a pair to someone in need today. They've sold and donated over ten million pairs to feel the bumps difference. 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Eric, what's a if you heard the show recently, you know, that Eric talked about homecoming in his what's making us happy this week since Eric had already talked about how much he liked the show he figured he would be exactly the right person to come to us about how much he liked the show. I'm going to go to these guys first. And then we'll get back to Eric Glenn. What did you think of homecoming? I listened to the podcast. I love the podcast. It is extremely well written. And it's the kind of writing that has a very high degree of difficulty because it's all done in dialogue on the page looks Mamat esque. Yeah. But of course, Mamat is performed in a very stylized mannered way and the podcast at least is the opposite of that very natural listing. It feels like you're eavesdropping. It's also purely auditory, obviously because it's the podcast. So it's natural to ask. What are you going to bring to this? Besides time. What can you infuse into it? And the answer is these amazing visuals, which aren't there just to be pretty they're there to do a very specific thing, we can talk about and these performances it's not fair to compare it to the podcast, but it's impossible not to because in many cases, the dialogue is verbatim. And what you're watching. If you know both is the same story overlapping dialogue being delivered with the same pauses the same double backs by different sets of actors, and you know while. Julia Roberts is great. We're going to talk about her kind of alley is just doing such great work. He's having a ball being this debate. And and on the podcast. He's played by David Schwimmer, which makes a certain medicine. But Schwimmer is Schwimmer. So there's a kind of Ross Geller thread of Moby penis and kind of is bringing slickness is kind of oleaginous alpha. Which is very can. I just say it's cool to have the worst friend playing the worst boss. Well, they're both guys who can play a really kind of unlikable person that you would not want as your boss, but in really different different ways. That's what's fascinating to me. So yeah, I also like that here the mom gets more to do because the mumps plagued by says he space. I would argue not still not enough. But but many dug it. Yeah. Steven, would you think? Yeah. I really loved it. I'm not familiar with the podcast. So I came into it trying to know as little as possible because I knew that there would be twists. And so for a while. I was watching it like thinking this was based on a nonfiction podcasts. A while to kind of it took me a while to get my would, be frightening terrifying. But Sam 's mile directs all ten of these episodes, and he brings a lot of what he brings to mister robot to this show dialed way way back it's not as self conscious as mister robot about the visuals. I think it is self conscious about the visual. So visually striking. You can't look away from it. But he brings some of what he brings to mister robot. But it's very very contained. I think this show benefits so much from these episodes being anywhere from twenty three to thirty seven minutes. So good. So you just kind of it makes the show so much more digestible you're not kind of heaving through the mechanics of of an hour long drama. So this show that can be very contemporary live still has this propulsed nece to it that kept me kind of like zipping to the next episode as quickly as I could I was a little bit less taken with the kind of government contractor intrigue than I was with the relationship between the Julia Roberts character and the Stefan James character. So Stefan James is playing. The the main soldier that the Julia Roberts character is working with and he is being treated for a kind of a mix of post traumatic stress disorder and survivor's guilt. And. And kind of trying to make his way after military service, and that character has to be a package of likability vulnerability swagger honor. There. So many things have to be going on with that character. And none of it can be too loud. I found that performance really riveting and found myself invested in that relationship in part because those two have real chemistry and those performances are really nicely dialed back their relationship with them is so tricky because it's a therapist patient sort of relationship. She's a caseworker, I I guess she's not technically therapist. But she's a like that. And there is an undercurrent to it that, of course, they're both very good looking people. And so you sort of keep expecting it to become more sexy than it is. They're not to over about. What exactly the closeness that? They're developing is. All right, Eric you've been very patient. What got you so much about the show? Well, first of all CMS Mel is just brilliant. And he is one of these directors where the the moment you start watching the show, you realize that it's been crafted by somebody who has a unique way of presenting television. Now, sometimes that can feel intrusive. It's almost like he's having you on the shoulder. Hey, hey, did something really cool here. Hey, watch me put this camera on the back of a car, and it's going to feel like you're standing on the roof of the car while his dry. You know, kind of thing the last scene of I think most of the episodes plays out while the credits run home still action going on which I loved I loved loved loved that. But it can also feel a little show offie in a way. But but he tells a story in a way that no one else does. And he takes a story that could have been very conventional once, you know, what the actual plot of the story is is not. At all that unconventional. But the way he tells the story is really interesting and the way he uses aspect ratio, for example. You know, you think you're watching present day, and you're watching a flashback because of how he deals with the size of the screen. But then you realize it's flipped. And you're actually watching present day in a smaller ratio, and the past is in full view, which is just brilliant. There's just a moment of cognitive dissonance where you sort of what's going on here. And the thing I've always felt about creators like male and even know Holly who does legion and Fargo is that they're brilliant. But sometimes they just get so caught up in the complexity of the plaza trying to tell and it becomes an endurance test for viewers or or test of some sort reviewers by the time. He gets to the end of an episode and with this because maybe because the story was crafted by someone else, it's just complex enough that his storytelling style benefits from it. But it's not so complex that you get lost in it. So I I really enjoyed that part of it. The other thing I loved about this. Julia Roberts role felt like it's the kind of role that would normally be played by white guy, and the soldier would be some sort of version of a manic pixie girl, and you know, by making the soldier black. I'm not sure if he's African American or not his mother seems to be an emigrant, but by making him a person of color making him younger making her the older thirty figure who seems to by the individ have fallen for him by being willing to show her face in all of its realistic, fifty something Lory, right? I mean, I just I just love that it it took a setup that could have been very predictable and just tweaked it enough that it felt different. So those are some of the things I really loved about this show. One of the things I liked about this. Julia Roberts performance is that if you think back particularly to films like when she was in Pretty Woman and mystic pizza and not very early part of her career that big smile is so much a part of how she became famous that kind of glow with all the teeth and the kind of the grin that she had. That was so warm is almost completely absent here. She is extremely tense. She is extremely. Unhappy for a good part of it. The only real relationships she has other than at work. You see her mother as Glenn was Saint play by says he space and also her I guess boyfriend who she doesn't really like that Mark plagued by poor German. Most thank really want is the most thankless another guy who excels at playing questionable people. And this is where some of the humor in the show really comes in. It's not there's not a lot of it. It's mostly around the kind of Allah character. But that character left Keebler because it was a pit of labors. Something that's cross fit based not cross fit per se. Need to know all that is missing for that. Character is for like a car to hit a puddle next to him. And I think what Eric was talking about in that it can seem kind of show off. And it doesn't as much here is part of what I was saying about the visuals being a little bit less self conscious. I think what Eric talking about was story is a little bit related to that. Because the great thing I got to the end of this. And I was like this story is not that complicated. Stories actually, not that complicated. Once you sort of get the feel of it the direction is making you aware of the artifice of the homecoming facility itself because the facilities feels claustrophobic, but it's supposed to be as inviting as possible, but it doesn't because it's so dark, and there's always light slanting in it makes you feel like you're being catered to the way the soldiers are being catered to whenever a scene takes place outside. There is no anything it's just flat. And it feels like all of a sudden you're in a pedestrian mall, and and it's meant to do it because you wanna feel a very specific way inside the facility as opposed to outside at my favorite thing about the series. You've already mentioned is how each episode ends on the opposite of a cliffhanger. The what maybe a cliffhanger like, oh, they're about to go and visit the facility, but we watch them leave and we stay in the booking. What that does? Is it widens this universe? Right. This universe is wider than what's going on in these people. The other thing is Steven talk to me about the score which is bold old old old school. I mean, I'm watching this very stylized where contemporary show, and I'm hearing string is willing. From like north by northwest. It's actually referencing old scores. I think the use of scores very effective, but there's also not giving anything away here. But in the last episode there are a couple of little blurts of recognizable more contemporary songs and the final scene in this show, which leads to maybe the best final shot. I have seen in a really long time is soundtrack to maybe my favorite song of all time. And so like, you really get a sense throughout the show. But especially in that moment of the visuals, the sound design the score and the music supervision. All that stuff is so immaculate. And so on point. Yeah. I wanna talk about a couple of performances. We haven't touched on yet. Eric you mentioned that his mother seems to be an immigrant. That's Marianne John Baptiste playing that role. I liked that performance. Yeah. It's what's interesting to me in. I'm of two minds about this. I love the fact that by casting these characters away. We did we got people. Call are prominently featured in the show, but it also worries me a bit that we're seeing a lot of shows where people of color or the noble victims. There's a new show coming up on FOX where the noble victim is a young African American girl we've seen this in in other shows, and it's becoming a bit of a trope. And that's something that that worries me, but these performances are so good these actors are so good, and you see an actor elect the actor who plays the soldier James, and you sort of go like, whereas this guy been why hasn't he had more roles like this will he get another roll like this. You know, that's the other thing that's kind of a drag sometimes about situations. Like, this is that an actor of color gets the show what they're what they're able to do. And then they don't get the next role. They don't get the next showcase. So I'm hoping that these roles in particularly to us seeing these people do some some great things. I'm sure he's going to be fine. Well stuff on James played John. Louis in Selma. And I remember watching Selma and seeing a crowd of young civil rights leaders like in the background before he's been introduced and looking at Stefan James and saying, oh, that's a young John Lewis that guys John Lewis. So it's just funny. I've like he has jumped out of crowds in movies before. Well, and here's the thing about Stefan. James when I say he's going to be fine. He is the lead in if Bill street could talk which is very Jenkins follow up to moonlight. And he's wonderful. And I think that that this is not necessarily him at the height of his powers acting lies. He's so no, no, no. But what I'm saying is I agree with Eric that he is in some ways being acted upon more than acting. But in Beale street, like I said, I personally think seen that movie think he will be fine. There's been some there's been some good writing recently about the half hour drama. And I think this is a a good example of the half hour drama where part of what I like about. It is that it is. Is not too flashy. Like, I like Eric was saying the performances aren't over the top, the the episodes aren't overly winding the story, isn't overly complicated. It's just a really good show. It really is. If you have seen or are going to see homecoming check it out. Let us know what you think find us on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash P, C H or tweet us at PCH when we come back. It's time for our favorite segment this week and every week what is making us happy this week. So come right back support for this podcast and the following message. Come from version Atlantic version Atlantic knows how to put the business and business trip. They know how important it is to arrive at your destination rested and ready to go. They have fully flatbeds. So you can get your forty winks and some they've got great food and drink and even WI fi on board if the emails can wait. And of course, if you want to kick back and watch a movie, they're on board entertainment system is second to none book your next business trip. At version Atlantic dot com. Welcome back to pop culture. Happy hour. It is time to talk about. What is making us happy this week? Stephen Thompson, what is making you happy this week, buddy. Okay. So this only took me nineteen years. But I just started watching for the very first time a show that I had never seen before. Now. I'm speaking to several professional TV critics, but this one's a little obscure. Maybe you haven't heard of the news. It's the west wing share. I had never seen one minute of the west wing, and I'm not entirely sure why eventually like after the show had completed its run. I started to develop a frustration with Aaron Sorkin that kept me from watching it when I tried watching the newsroom, and hated it. I assumed that I would retroactively not like the west wing Aaron Sorkin does even on the west wing have this condition where he feels that. There is no problem that can't be solved by a man giving a speech, right? But I'm now three episodes into the seven season run of the west wing. And I love it turns out newsflash. This is a great show uptake. I know I know exactly the the I'm sure this will be a major discovery for those of you out there. But if you like me never got around to watching this show. And now think that you wouldn't like it maybe because you didn't like the newsroom or studio sixty or whatever this show holds up incredibly well. Still has a lot of reverberations in the way. We look at government today. I love the show you're in the golden age of the west. Yeah. You're in the best season, in my opinion, which is which takes nothing away from how brilliant it is that first season is absolutely spectacular. Aaron Sorkin really good at writing dialogue. Yeah. Ear for dialogue while people walk. Well, people. All right. Thank you very much. Stephen thompson. Good pick. All right. Glenn weld. And what is making you happy this week after thirteen seasons? Kind of figured I knew what it's always sunny in Philadelphia was putting down was selling. And I was all admitted an infrequent customer. I figured I got it. Right. You know? I would check in every so often in the show is, you know, it's mean, it's stupid. It's gross. But it's solid funny. And also put it this way. The fan base is full-throated intense corner. You would a party without blinking kind of kind of a of a cohort speaking of the way. So the creator and star rob macaroni who plays MAC has gotten super Hooper. Swollen super jacked this season to go along with this coming out story for his character. And I admit I was kind of hesitant to check in. Because what are the odds that this show which takes nothing seriously, and is sensitive about nothing would deal with this in any kind of sensitive way. Odds are pretty good turns out and the thirteenth season has this finale, which left five minutes has this big musical number. They've done musical numbers before they're always comically bad. That's the joke. This is a ballet sequence basically, and a modern dance sequence essentially in which macaroni and the dancer Kylie shea. Do this amazing muscular very physical dance to cigarroa song? Baru? Oh, that's so good. It is breathtaking eight is intent is a moment where she throws herself across the stage at him. He catches her. And she makes this physical. Grunt that they don't at out. That is just it's fascinating. And name me a show that thirteen seasons in would break its format. Like this would surprise. You would take this risk and take itself seriously in a way that is actually rewarding surprising and kinda hot. So that's the last five minutes of the episode MAC finds his pride of it's always sunny in. Philadelphia. Thank you, very much Glen Weldon, Eric Duggan's. What is making you happy this week? I would say this is what's engaging me? Okay. So the third season of cereal they spent a year in the Justice system in Cleveland, and the most recent episode involves a look at the juvenile system and it starts with one kid. This kid is accused of three robberies armed robberies. He says one of them. He was coerced into doing by an older gang member. But that means that the other two he just decided to do and he is given a deal by prosecutors. If you inform on your gang will keep you in juvenile detention. So he agrees to do it and goes, according to cereal above and beyond helps police bust up this gang called the heartless felons gets thrown into a juvenile facility where he has no protection is constantly. Halted and the episode gives you a sense of how dysfunctional the juvenile detention system is in the Cleveland area. And at the end of the episode. We find out that the juvenile might have his time converted to adult time, which would be eighteen years to life. I would say Cleveland dot com is doing something interesting where they are recapping the episode, but they're also adding in their own information that they do from reporting I would suggest experiencing the podcast, and then watching what Cleveland dot com is revealing and you will learn quite a bit about the criminal Justice system based on this podcast is won't necessarily make you happy. But it is a really transformative experience. Yeah. I think that's season's been exceptional. Thanks for that. Eric making me happy this genuinely making me happy this week. You know, it's making me happy to see you guys dogs now not Dobbs. The animal some of you now. I liked I like dogs spot. But now we're talking about dogs the net flicks series, you want to guess what? The Netflix series dogs is about is. It is it dog. It's ducks. Yeah. It's six documentaries in a series. And each one of them is about a different aspect of the relationship between people and dogs. So the first one is about a service dog for a kid who has seizures. And they train the service dog to help her recognize an oncoming seizure. There's another episode. That's about a fisherman on Lake Como in Italy who his family is not only does he go fishing and his boat every day, but they also have a restaurant during tourist season, and it's both about his fishing life becoming more and more difficult. But also how he has this dog friend ice who comes out on the boat with him every single day. If you have heard the expression a dog who is part of the family, and you've thought does that have to be a Twee thing where it means? Address them up in little clothes and things like that. This is a dog who is part of the family in a way that I found a really moving and wonderful. I am still making my way through the series carefully. Doling it out to myself. The episodes will be available on November sixteenth. So while you're hearing this podcast, they should be out net. Flicks. Six episodes dogs coming from several really good documentary directors, Amy Berg and some others. It's I recommend it. If you love dogs, and even if you don't is there an episode that is just dogs and soldiers being reunited is not by my vein. There is one that is about dogs in a combat area. But there's also one apparently that's about rescue dogs in New York. I'm excited. So it's all good stuff. And that is indeed making me very very happy this week. And that brings us to the end of our show, you can find all of us on Twitter and find meet Linda Holmes, you can find Stephen it. I dislike Stephen you can find Glenn achie- twelve and Eric at Dagens, you can find our producer, Jessica radio. 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Hot Blooded

Fame is a Bitch

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Hot Blooded

"From workhouse connect in a._j. Benza vein he likes to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex keeps james is the guy put the cock and the peacock network okay bitch. Hey everybody a j benza here with fame. Bitch this as your podcast august. It's twenty eight twenty nine teen warning you right now. I'm warning you the top the podcast probably going to be a quick show both shows today this one and the patriots little quicker than normal. The furniture truck is finally here and they came early earlier than we expected naturally because because they always fuck things up supposed to be here at ten getting eight which means i don't have time to do my show. I gotta do early than i ever expected. Could which is right now so i gotta split here. Gotta rose lease house start unload. I know the movers all moving but really they don't they take stuff about a truck and then you've got to put it in different parts of your house and set up beds and all this kinda shit so that's what's happening today. It's hot out again which is good but no humidity here in illinois which i like but i'm still having thoughts about the m._t._v. awards. I can't get it off my mind. <hes> especially one particular part of it. I haven't seen for a while now. I'm not the only one how phony and fake this romance between shawn shawn mendez and camila cabello appears to be and i laugh because i always make my dog had human like qualities as she stares right now from the pillow but we always make jokes being the kids that my <hes> my doggy loves shawn mendez everytime his songs come on is were were driving a school. We believe that she's excited. 'cause that's her boyfriend so we have these stupid games you play but we know i know i think my daughter knows that shawn mendez is probably most likely gay and that's fine but why are they dragging this kid through the whole gauntlet of making believe straight to they really think in twenty nineteen he's not going to get the fans he needs because he'll be found out as gay look at all these these big gay famous popular singers. Nobody cares so me mentioning. This is not to say outing somebody. It's just to let the powers that be no. You don't need to make these. These young guys hide the fact that they like young guys. It's just it's comical and it's tragic at the same time so you know i've been saying that the the relationship between him and camila cabello is bullshit. I've gotten dragged a few times on social media but then those two went and sang their duet let song senorita and they fucking proved it to the whole world how not into each other they are. Did you see this performance. Do people think we're that stupid that we think it's a coincidence that their hit song comes out and then the new hot couple holding hands in the west village holding hands in los angeles doing that fate kiss over fucking desert that everybody has staged for a hundred years but i had my gaza so calm. You have no idea how many publicists would call me and begin to act like this. I'd never gonna give me between troy eight when nancy i anti kerrigan being a hot couple. They thought sounded legit place that just stop it. I'm not going to print that no a._g. They really stop it treatments gay now. Just let's start from there. What are you telling me that he suddenly not gay and loves nancy kerrigan a._j. Please i listen i. I know you need the item. I know you've got a place an item on troy aikman because he's paying you a monthly fee but we've got to come up with a different angle so i'll help you with troy aikman. Go back to your desk and figure out the new item. It ain't gonna be. He's hot with anti kerrigan okay. I'll call you back. That's the way i handled it without having to say anything bad or rude you just get the publicist attention to go. I'm not doing this. Come on what you take before so to me. It's more of a personal personal affront that they're still columnist out there by columnist. Fucking people who run blogs and shit on the internet who would just auto publishes run wild published on your boss the the it'll. They don't get to tell you what to do. They need you. You'll need them. I'm talking to a wall. No one listens who cares but the point is the chemistry between shawn mendez and camila cabello is a lot like the fucking in temperature in this room right now sixty five degrees in chile because i want to be cool before i leave to move furniture and sweat all day. The only people who believe there are a couple of the publicists closed their eyes and hope we believe the bullshit but you know it it you know they wanna capitalize on their song sing at isa being number one in america and listen trustee when i tell you when these two quote unquote break up. They're gonna do it. Miley cyrus did did with liam hemsworth. One of them is going to be caught. Kissing another person of the same sex and it's not going to be camille and by the way i've been hearing camilla is over this whole charade. She's done with it. She's been rolling her eyes for a while. Now she hates it. I also heard the producers as of the vienna's gave these to a ten minute window to perform this just that everybody was waiting for especially the screaming gay boys in the front row. I mean just look at the audience. This is this kid has screaming teams and streaming gay boys that oughta tell you right there but that window came and went because camilla did not want any more part of this bullshit. She didn't have any patients. You'd have people who do a lot of cocaine. We have very little patience yeah well. They go. I said it without saying but i say that that kiss this supposedly kiss they it was supposed to do or or the kiss they will do one day when they've had enough that's the kiss that did wonders for brody jenner's ex wife nobody ever heard of hey and butler. Is that a name go. Blonde girl known hurt her before miley cyrus kissed wrong boat on lake como italy now she's always say in fact that was her and miley walking hand in hand to <hes> a few after parties of the b._m._a.'s <music> at all look about across the street. There's brody jenner with his new girlfriend. Josie canseco flooded coincidence. They're both via maze days at the same time on the same night you get into point you see how things are orchestrated constantly and yet. They still dole think we buy all this shit. It's all fake <hes> the biggest thing which wasn't on display at the v._m. As i know the jonas brothers came and sang around because they were told if you sing you'll win and they played along and these boys from new jersey so it was right. They performed in jersey so they figure hey. We're gonna get a lot of publicity out of it. The biggest phoney relationship is jonas. Kid who's with priyanka chopra who what i saw her on t._v. I fell in love with but i was quickly told and and have learned since that she is one of the biggest bullshit on his walking and this is only for the publicity this this marriage she has this jonas kid i think by now we all know it but you never see her with a kid. He's she never shows up like sophie. Turner does for the other brother and the other chick does the third brother. I feel the names nick joe. Whoever carmarthen the third jonas brothers the two wives are always with the brothers but bianca she always busy can't make it and yet. I never see her in movies or t._v. Shows but you know in my day m._t._v. used to shock audiences with madonna kissing britney or written kissing madonna christina aguilar in front of justin timberlake you know but i kind of feel sorry for shawn menendez because toward the end of that song ship by the way the dress she wore oh my god. I've been to cuba a bunch of times. I saw girls families. Emily's with no money put together better dresses for their kids kimchi neda then she wore for this fucking d._n._a. Nationally televised vise performance horrible dress. I mean she's a little girl. She's not a a steaming. You know thirty five year old woman she's a little girl but still terrible alfred and she was you know spinning around him and touching his back and touching shoulders and at the end of that song came that moment here's the kiss and <hes> <hes> you know this is when you bring the heat all she did his scrunch up her nose and touches knows oh my god that's fucking awful but even if they wanted to turn up the heat at this place y- placement sergio mendez that make me sound old play antonio carlos carlos joe beam. I know that makes me donald but listen shawn mendez my man. If you're gonna go sleeveless you have to have actually lifted weights once in your life. He looks like he was raised. In a box to make a nice veal cutlet good looking kid and when the sean was over the way he kissed the crowd proud the way he blew air kisses. Okay go look at those air kisses and look at other people said goodbye to okra again. I don't get the kids gay. I i just can't stand the fact that were made to believe that these people are not. We've gotta stop that in one thousand nine hundred if you're gonna get mad at me for not accepting somebody he's sexuality or refusing to believe someone sector then at least presenting sexual in a normal justified way. Don't just keep lying to people. I guess you can see that the touchy subject with me because i've been through it so so long with publicist shit's crazy they fucking light units. That's not not worth it. It means nothing and by the way <hes> let me just add this into the mix. Nobody's talking about it. I think it's worth mentioning because us she's all we talked about in fucking july but at the v._m. As we saw three members of the u._s. women's world cup champion soccer team alley krieger reader ashley harris alex morgan but no megan wrapping up by. I don't care what you tell me. The captain megan in rapid most outspoken lesbian on the team that won would go to the opening of an envelope. She wasn't there for a reason. Maybe maybe because her teammates refuse to go to the awards if the invite included her. Maybe that let me let me i'm wrong and i bet you'll lose but you know again outflows out with this. If you wanna know why so many untalented kids kids think they can do nothing and be famous. Just go look at the song singer and watch shawn mendez and camila cabello saying it and perform it but this is america good looking people with marginal talent can succeed so easily easily. You wanna blow your brains out it. I'm watching. I'm watching this. America's got ta expert. No america's got talent right because because it was simon cal gabriel union why she the fucking on that show juliana hoffmann howie mandel okay so they're doing america's got talent and the trot out these people and of course terry we cruise is now the host. I can't stand him. He's such a goofball. You never see a guy that's got such a great physique such a fucking corny goofball and then if you think think about his past how he was addicted to drinking and drugs and addicted to porn his wife left him he fell on his knees and begged her back which hey listen that's fine you love your wife good view but to be addicted to point and be so corny and then accused the guy at at at your talent agency a grammy or not said suing him and winning and what a fucking he just this guy just lives for attention terry crews who got famous for being able to move love each one of his pectoral muscles individually. That's how he got famous. So you've got america's got talent being hosted by a guy with very very little talent inviting people on the stage with varying degrees of little town and of course you find that one million person once in a while like the ten year gerald opera singer who never worked and went to win. We put her in an opera. Yes it's amazing. Chicken hit those octaves. But when do you think she'll ever get a gig and would any of you who love opera. I big operas beautiful. What any of you who love opera sit back and your big reclining chair or at home and put on a c._d. Of ten year old singing fucking opera i'd rather hear kars for kids over and over again the person singing opera breath had to go through the ups and downs and the unbelievable turbulent emotions of the opera this scene the songs from they have to have have gone through those emotions. You can't just tell a ten year old. Hey read this. If that was art then. Why don't we let rich little impersonate a great big league movie star and think we're seeing listening to the same movie that we love that movie star in the stamina trying to say it's just shallow. It's tenny. It doesn't work doc yes. It's amazing girl comes sing opera. That should only be the thing you do when your friends come over and you put her in the backyard and you're making a sincere friends while the barbecues thought after that is nothing you can do this girl. You let a train for the next fifteen years when she's twenty five or twenty eight. She goes on stage. Each becomes a a rousing hit if she still wants to say i get the feeling a lot of these kids are gonna hate singing after a while parents have made them do it because their parents. It's all the ones with the desire to be famous. That's what i want so i am very angry. I'm very angry and then not not angry about this but i'm very like you know obviously normal writer and i find it. You know it's an honorable career choice. It's hard. It's something that even when you're good at it's still hard every day. A lot of you have wonderful careers. I don't care if you sell cars. Cars are fixed fucking pipes or your work. I don't care what you do. That tends to come a day where your job gets easier. There are those days you can do. You drive rob with your eyes closed so to speak many of you. Have those jobs and i'm not putting you down if you can do your job with your eyes closed. I've had those jobs too but when you write for living it's hard to just have a day where you close your eyes and just go on autopilot but yet you know in this day and age of people getting jobs because they're females longoria eva longoria. I would have thought she wants to. I guess it's eva eva longoria who by the way never found her attractive. I'm sure she feels the same about me but really i don't get the hysteria that surrounded her during desperate house. I didn't find her to be the hot house right what they always make of the hot latina so since she's the hot latina guess what our next gig is going to be if you thought she might be directing a movie about <music> out flaming hot cheetos year on fire you're right. That's our next job okay. She's going to direct a bio pic cold old flaming hot. It can't make this up. It's about the flaming hot cheetos creator a guy named richard montainous us. Do you have a kid cleats these fucking things at my corner store. You can't even get regular cheetos. You can't even get those little skinny giddy hard she does that. I like better. He can't get him these. Are these are bags of asshole destroyers. You don't they due to your fucking colon. My son loves them all the kids in school and in northern and southern california eat them for lunch. They're everywhere he's he he gave me when i said you know what would have happened to my ass off eight one of these rocco. He said try it. I said much again try but i tried it and it's it's so disgusting i can't i like hot. Thanks but this is manufactured in a way. That's designed to kill you the inside out but there's is going to be a movie about the now a movie now if i sound a little bit. Are you know it's only because i have a few screenplays. That still haven't been made into motion pictures in the writing is tremendous when menial couple sit down to write a script. We do right beautiful things in this last script. We got less the most car only have i was in the hands of somebody huge what i say huge and current. I can't be more the person who likes script and says she she wants to do something with it. Cross your fingers because it's big time so but still i'm still amazed that this move can be made. I'm actually i'm kind of shocked that it hasn't been made before because the history of flaming hot cheetos is really lia feel good story even though light your ass on fire. It's a feel-good story. It's very ironic but the you know the actual. It's unbelievable this fucking town if you live here long enough is just see everything richard montas richard montanez was the the son of mexican immigrants. This guy worked as a janitor at the frito lay plant in southern california and one night he came up with the idea talk to make cheetos hot and spicy so he's working as a janitor one day and the cheese dusty machine broke down and a bunch of cheetos didn't get dusted. Somebody's job was in peril so richard. Montana's takes the the un dusted cheetos home starts messing around with different flavors on a spice rack. You know he's chilly. We saw here a little fucking who now he just. He's having fun and he's trying to cheat us. Left and right team likes better. When i was a kid. We had a janitor. Donald norton it high school who literally slept in his small gender closet at least forty five hours of the school day yours overall overall he kept the cigarette behind his ears and he would actually take out a small bottle of booze and sip it as he was pushing pushing the broom down the hallway. He would try and hide but we all knew he was a drunk. He was drunk and one one time my cousin fill him and his buddies came to my high school to play some basketball. It was open gym night and we walked down to the gym and there's norton hanging out by the small john in the closet closet by the gym and i told phil whatever you do don't call him nor he can't stand and so said he said that i said why next thing i know him and his friends are screaming screaming his friend anthony morocco who's a fucking maniac morocco is screaming naughty naughty naughty and the janet drops his fucking broom and chases. Those two guys out of the gym never saw run. He might have been drunk but that mother fucker could run anyhow so richard martinez a janitor with dreams. I took the idea of these spices. He sprinkled on the cheetos at home. He took the idea to then c._e._o. And the c._e._o. And i gotta give this guy props. Ask them to come back with a presentation in a week so richard montas takes out a bunch of books on marketing and he goes to the library does research and he comes up with some branding ideas and the frito lay c._e._o. Was so impressed by richard his presentation. The flaming hot cheetos was born eventually richard montana's climbs up the executive positions at pepsico and and he's a big fucking boss and now flaming hot cheetos are starting four alarm fires in people's assholes everywhere but now you gotta think it this imagine the guy who i opened up a bag of fritos and doug some cheese whiz and hot sauce in it and shook it up. Doesn't that guy deserve the hollywood treatment too. I mean come on. That's a snack. We've all loved isn't it. I know i love it. Oh guys see see if if this if this didn't happen. I guess we couldn't laugh about life. The other thing i wanna laugh about life before i go is that you know that was a joke going around the internet this morning. That was very funny. <hes> actually i was up at four o'clock in the morning so it was like almost last night but i was reading it in for him. <hes> you know ill hand omar been found out that fucking minnesota congresswoman if found out that she took another woman's husband away and now this husband is totally with l. han and he's left his wife and i think the child okay and the joke is what did ilhan omar's husband say when he found out she was cheating on him. I'm telling mom i love it because we know that she married her brother but you know this fucking woman. She should be grateful that she's in the u._s._a. And this happened to our instead of in a country that rules under sharia law or this bitch would still be getting stone and hit with the straps but she acts like she's above it all and better than all of us and one more thing. Let me let you guys know. I find this fascinating. I know last week week on my a few days ago. On the patriot show i mentioned the fact that demi levato was upset about something i wrote in radar on in my in my radar online column about her getting down to a fighting weight and i just wrote that sentence because i thought it was funny or i should say punny because i've seen dummy training with mixed martial arts and i thought oh she's trying to get in shape to sing again so i wrote fighting wait. She didn't like it because she's had a problem with an eating disorder when she came at me hard and i talked about it on patriots where she wrote me on instagram. She used a picture my daughter roxie to to show me this poor girl has to deal with the father who thinks a woman's weight is an issue and blah all this shit and i came back at her heart respectful but hard and then and then i do regret that the last thing i said ed because in her letter she called me an asshole and she said get a fucking life and i do regret on the second p._s._i. Wrote back to her. The first to let were really respectful and classy but the third one was short and i said and by the way you're the one who look like an asshole by overdosing in front of your fucking friends at your house shouldn't the said that that was beneath me and i knew once i press and i was just what am i doing. I'm a fucking. I send a high school kid and of course she fired back the next day day and what she wrote i li- i respect the fact that she came at me. I like that. I know she's got a temper and i dig it but she came in behind the next day but she basically said and i'll read what she wrote. If the only thing that gets you to see women as human beings worthy of respect beyond their image of the fact that they're your is the fact that they your daughter all that means that you have to feel personally connected to a woman in order to not be a ditch compassion and respect for beautiful virtues and hopefully you can achieve those values. I pray. She remember what i said when people pray for you they're really saying go fuck yourself. I i pray. She grows up with a father who loves her. Never neglects her tells us she's beautiful. No matter what size of what any media outlet may have influence on her body image every day because the lack lack of that coming from biological dad could be part of the reason some people do end up overdosing and having near death experiences but what do i know right. That's pretty heavy shit. I didn't know that her problems stemmed from having a father who put her down and if what she's saying is true and i don't know why she'd lie. That's a heavy thing to write back so i wrote look. I'm not happy. I wrote that. I wanted to take back the second i sent it. It was a dumb response for you. You call me an asshole and saying get a fucking life. I apologize and i i went on to say a few things. I'll keep between her and i but i said except in my hot sicilian so you got the best of me and i mentioned how much i love my daughter what she means to me and how she sings and wants to do that as a career and then he wrote back into good don't let go for her and we both signed off for the heart and kissy-faced so i guess being demi levato are friendly now but i'm glad she did what she did. At first it was weird to see she my daughter's face an image of my daughter coming back from an response from demi levato but you know i. I liked that this happened. I liked that that this back and forth occurred between her and i because i do respect and you guys know in the past i've talked about her and now she's a year and change engine to overdose and i've always rooted for her comeback <hes> but she doesn't listen to the podcast. She has donate their <hes> but any look. I liked it happened. It shows that even if i don't have to walk around wondering the shells on the map people listen people read and people know what's going on what's being said on these shows and for that we should all be thankful because i was thinking the other day since we began this podcast. We've talked about header files. Some in specific ones getting away with some really dastardly acts kevin spacey brian sooner jeffrey epstein. They've been a handful of these mother fuckers that we've gone after from on day one and even r kelly and all of them had been basically rounded up the dead in jail awaiting trial or or definitely a sitting home what they're fucking hanjin mouth biting fingernails down to the rupe because what we said has gotten to them. That's it for today. I got to go move furniture. I'm jay benz and that was famous bitch for august twenty eight th twenty nine. I'll talk to you aw thank you for listening famous. A bitch is an a._j. 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The 50 Greatest Celebrities of All Time | Ringer Dish

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The 50 Greatest Celebrities of All Time | Ringer Dish

"Hey it's kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network season two of h._b._o. Succession is back and the ringers chris ryan and jason concepcion are here to give you the latest and roy family drama every sunday night. They'll be breaking down what we just saw on our new show called number one boy's succession after show you can tune in live on the ringers wringers twitter every sunday night right after the episode ends the hello and welcome to ringer dish on the ringer podcast network. I i am joined today by kate hollow of lau and andrew credit arrow and we're here for just bury. Ill advised hilarious experiment that we are about to share with the world's for better and worse truly weird gwen shoe. Try to define. We're at least discuss the fifty greatest celebrities celebrities of all time of all time important inclusion. I would just like to say up top that this was andrew's idea. It was it with it's a joke and then it immediately was not a joke because here we are and it's the summer and you know what it's important to have fun all right. What else have we got going on. So we should idea for this came from an equally ill advise list of the fifty. The greatest rappers of all time that kind of was a big deal on the internet last week andrew. Would you put that in some more context yeah <hes> this this podcast like based in cincinnati posted their list of the fifty best rappers and number three is joe button cat which pitch for anyone who's ever listening to rap music knows that joe button is not the third best rapper of all time <hes> so it was just something that was like so unbelievably ridiculous that it became a meam basically and then it also blossomed into people earnestly making their own top fifty s and you know list just inspire people to really jump off the deep end and then it is fired arguments and then it inspired blogs. There's a great piece piece on the ringer dot com by rob her villa which is just about the futility of new efforts like this and also how this making as a sign that you're old and it's a outmoded way of approaching appreciation of culture art people etc. I think those are all valid points. We're going to completely the ignore them in any way. It's we may contact. That's what we do we do we love celebrities may contact love to inspire debate at the ring dot com so a little bit about the methodology for this. I was going to go ahead and say admittedly nonsensical list. Oh totally this is a reflection of the ringer and all it's glory and in all of its intended sanction shin peculiarities absurdity already. This list is in many ways our greatest celebrities of all time list but it is also in many ways just a reflection of the personalities of the for people who work here really as we got a good range of people to help submit celebrities for this list and then we loosely cape. Why don't you explain the specific methodologies lisa. I made you do this totally. So kaya who is producing this episode and myself reached out to ten ringer staffers on a range of ages and specialties casualties. We got some sports guys in here. We got some entertainment writers in here. We got some old. Some young's how about older. I'm in a street is when i said that h._r. Is listening and so people just with a range of interests. We encourage them get weird because we didn't want any repeats which is tough when you're like. Give me your five greatest celebrities of all time right so he has ten people. Yes i've celebrities each and no repeats allowed totally which which i was surprised there were not as many repeats gonna ask 'cause you. Kinda went one to win yes so we asked people originally and then when we started to get later on in the list we were like you know people would give i five. We'd be like okay. Two of those are taken one of those taken but really like there was a good rains. People weren't coming up with the same five. Every time which is great. Did people struggle to come up with this list. This was their enthusiasm. There was definitely. I was telling i just sent four different. People prompt and literally all of them responded with wow. How's the first the first response response enthusiasm while you guys are idiots for doing. I think both equal parts but it was pretty quick. People came up with these pretty quickly and just shot back some names and then it was a quick process <hes> yeah i mean we. There's a real spectrum here of responses many ways. It's a personality test for absolutely and because we're doing this kate andrew and i are also going to submit to the personality test at the end of this podcast. We will eat reveal our top five s. I think everyone on our top five lists ultimately on the list. Even though we did not submit is that correct correct which one is not on the lone wolf the right and we're just gonna keep it a secret until okay great was going to say. I thought that was nice. Actually i felt like i work among peers. People who understand me like minded ended. Yes i think it was basically i was going to be very angry about some missing elements on the list until david shoemaker came to our very last david shoemaker. If you're listening listening you're my guy say today. I think honestly we're just gonna go through the list and we are not going to their fifty people on this list and you know this is just one podcast so what we'll do is i will read the list and we will if we're judging also that's totally we're going to be annotating like is is this. Is this a good inclusion opposing staffer who made us include <hes>. We may throw some people under the bus yeah. We're just gonna talk. Let's do this is a place of judgment and debates. Absolutely it's the tara them sensually percent here we go. Are we starting towards to number fifty fifty just checking camman clinton. I don't know how far logic extends in this. I guess ignore there is no logic. We are just baring our souls. No reason i love it okay number number fifty jamie fox so this was a sean you inclusion after about three of his okay were denied foale disclosure he was like i really want facts sean you. I will include him for you. Okay so jamie fox. What do we think sure sure i they say the shave me fox. Great entertainer also played a pivotal role in bringing ed share into the world. That's true you gotta. Give him credit for that. Zam show he contains okay. Yes okay never forty nine this guy fieri which is both role and it's great. It's definitely me a comment on how memes and select become celebrities. I was thrilled with this choice. I have to say okay. I think correct. I think okay with this to dig. I fear is too low now. I think he's right wearing needs to be. I will say like the science of making list specifically to make people mad is always to start the list <hes> with someone who maybe should be a little higher and and then have someone directly above them who maybe should be a little lower. Wow like real insight into your on this list. Yes that's okay the only food celebrity on this list which means that julia child that i had a gardener not on this list so whatever i reject this by we'll continue continue forty eight hundred eleven thousand elissa bresnik zhen honestly i kind of i would not say all time but if we had to put one model title on this list she's up there. She was i feel revolutionary in terms of the current internet age of models and how certain supermodels have like basically just use the internet to become popular. I think that's all true kate. Moss is not on this list. I know i don't know what to say. Okay forty seven kevin hilarious jody. I yes sir she's definitely a literary celebrity. She is and and she has also become an internet meme. I mean a lot of this is reasons he by us. We did our best on this list. This is june tidiane. Frankly has been lovely writer for fifty fifty years now but then she became and was like in the selena ad and everyone was like oh my god. I want to pose an extra corvette or whatever the hell that is what you know what i do you as well a lotta. I think i'm too also real quick the same staffer who's been a guy feary submitted agenda just record well. That person contains multitudes this list forty six six sophie turner. I s- think sophie turner is like a real emerging celebrity icon. Has she cracked top fifty all time at this point in the career. I don't know if you're grading for potential sure. Maybe i think it's wild. I don't thinks you blow out. I think if you make this list like twelve months from now she she's may twelve months andrew now ten years from now maybe for fifty years. We didn't put restrictions in terms of how long someone's been a celebrity. There were no benchmark marc center absolutely no crazy. She's just burns so brightly in the last two reasons. I don't put her on. I disagree. I think you know maybe up in commerce. I can see it. I definitely have podcast it about sophie turner's and that's something yeah i what can you say we didn't give any uh-huh criteria and this is the speaking of chaos ensued both on the list done in life diplo at number forty five now. I mean he's very the internet. He is really good at the six people at this to ourselves and i ten names. Are it just because you know what forty four inch wayne the rock johnson yes. I actually agree with you. I actually agree that's fair. He's maybe higher up. Actually he's transitioned gained from it through multiple notaries. He is worldwide recognizable and he has that like innate star quality charm people wanna watch totally as is he said in the blockbuster film hobbs and shop people like me. That's okay wow. I just saw movie. Welcome forty three mariah carey. Hell yeah great three decades of marie. Yeah i think so i think for contributions to pop music to celebrity is just kind you've been in the tabloids and narrative and also i don't know her which is one of the great museums and also kind of one of the great celebrity short hands of our time and she's just like one of the divas okay you know i grew like she made the diva like a real brand notable. Okay forty two michael j. fox keep. Do you know who michael j. fox's disrespects. We have a lotta a lot of respect for michael j. Fox who i think is a very big deal in his bed in a lot of iconic movies and television shows and has also has was diagnosed with parkinson's arkansas-based become an ambassador for that in the public eye before we got as used to that as we are now if people really sharing their things so i admire him him i would top fifty is interesting yeah. No andrew from this is a this is also a shoemaker pick and this was after he <hes> submitted someone else that was already on the list. I was with him in the room. When he was assembling his list. I love it said michael j. fox in the eighties okay so like whatever things were also give him on jeopardy and we're going to talk a lot about celebrities who did things things that we now understand celebrity behavior for the first time and i think that he has done a lot of that over so i'm fine with it. Okay forty-one shaquille o'neal yeah andrea. Here's the thing <hes> yes. He's extremely famous and probably louis. If you ask someone like just on the street to name three basketball players. He probably be one of them. Yes lebron. James is not on this list. Oh interesting and shack is well but this is the less list of celebrities athletes and we're not we should also say we're not gauging. Are they. The most famous right he's not the most of all time this is not the most important celebrities of all time. This is the greatest which is empty u._s. And as we have learned already from the ten on this list are staffers interpret greatest in a lot of different ways. Maybe they thought it was the largest and so that's why they went with shack. Check did make kazam so i think he's pretty good on that n._b._a. Great and i also very mean me more which is big right. I don't know whether again. I don't know that i would do greatest. Maybe greatest basketball celebrities of all time oh for sure okay number forty is frederick douglass. Listen which is sure stretching the definition of celebrity. We did tell them all time we did and this anybody. Justin charity just had a very historical list which i appreciate it. I have a long-running personal and professional dialogue with justice parody about the meaning of celebrity and that it history as we're taught it is really kind of a bunch of celebrity of profiles over time right down to us so in that sense allow it. I you know we don't have he is more of a a a writer and political figure rate which it in that time made you famous. He is famous. We don't have a lot of other politicians titians. I'm here for rape yeah but it's frederick douglass. I'm gonna serve at its. It's five history. History is written by the winners in the famous people for not at all. That's not at all true but it is populated with people who've become famous because they're a part of history will out ah political figure of source. I suppose at thirty nine jane fonda i like this. Actually i think this is good. Just in terms of we were talking about people who did the things i and especially as being outspoken against the vietnam war jane fonda really was there in the sixties doing a lot and then obviously they also jazzercise. That's important you can't really look past that as a fitness icon and political icon also a movie star and and honestly frankly pretty early on the nets t._v. Show tip early her career as head legs. Okay yeah that's great. Thirty eight is meryl streep. I think meryl streep is the greatest actor serve all time. I think she should be higher on the list. I do not think that she is a great celebrity. I think she's great actor. I agree and i i adore meryl streep. I once sat next to her at a broadway play and it was the most terrifying and rewarding experience of my life shared an armrest. Wow was speechless. Is there are a few people who could make which should be at play. I try to be polite audience member but i was also cowering in the presence of meryl streep. I mean all respect meryl streep but she is not right but she is famous and she is in a great actor but in terms of celebrity narrative and everything she's just she's trying to disappear in the characters. You're right okay. Thank you okay thirty-seven david beckham. I agree with you. This is a great pack yeah. This is very smart and maybe he should be higher. I think he's right where he needs to be okay but i think he definitely deserves spot well. I think that that athlete athlete crossover is an interesting thing that we need to talk out because we were talking about a little bit with shack but this idea that people bowl for a long time we're just famous as athletes in there really athletes in the past what twenty years i mean they were always celebrities and they were always famous but we didn't maybe kind of watch their lives in the same way that we watched say mariah carey and some of this has also definitely gendered and who pays pays attention to celebrity and i'm pleased that as a community we are you know exploiting and paying too much attention to people on an equal basis now but david beckham was one of the first athletes who we were also interested in his personal life and the fashion and the clothes in the set the template for a lot of people andrews. That seem fair yeah yeah i think i think you're spot on him. Marrying posh victoria beckham was like a huge moment and then him and bringing his family to los angeles. I remember like there was breathless coverage of it yes. He's like a true icon. Yes oh i'm totally good with his parents here. Okay number thirty six is james dean. I think this is pretty good. That's fine okay kate. Sometimes you have to it's all time i know frederick douglass amanda yeah. I still think a good i agree. This is fine but james dean in terms of influences like singular image influence at the number of people over the years who have tried to have a james dean bite. The number of times that james dean vibe has appeared in celebrity profile right. That's makes him all-time great celebrity edgar okay thirty five michelle obama. Yes totally us. Yes bro not on the list right yes well. I mean he is is a politician actual celebrity. I think michelle missiles yeah. I mean it's interesting. Is this gender that we only let the women be celebrities the money guys on here <hes> yeah. It's just thinks she's a better celebrities. Yes i certainly agree with that because we also can be a little forthright and she has more freedom to do that. Exactly okay thirty four nicholas cage speaking of freedom. I was thrilled with. I forget who who submitted this but i was shocked shocked that he was not already on here yeah absolutely but profiled him this week alone. Yes and you know the it was an interview with david marquez e and the new york times magazine and is it. The interview is wonderful because nick cage. Is it a unique thinker but he's also a chronicle like a of a you remarkable unique thing that nicholas cage has done with his fame and the last thirty years and in terms of taking fame for spin you gotta respect it absolutely andrew anything to add our you indicate person i guess as much as the next person irrespective no no no i think i think he's good here. I also like he's sort of hollywood. Royalty related to francis ford coppola. Yes <hes> which adds is to his celebrity and he's just like he's one of the the bannerman of eccentric celebrities. That's all right on the flip side of celebrity number thirty three. I think you could have made the same argument for tom. Hanks that you did for merrill except for like the last ten years of him like on twitter being like here's lost glove or like his his typewriters or his. You know like he is embraced. Internet culture in a way that meryl streep obviously has not what was i think has made him into more of like a celebrity now. I think that's a great point. I there is also something about the types of movies that that maryland. Tom hanks have been in which is also as i say this. I'm like well. It's a reflection of hollywood and who will go see movies and box office and whatnot but tom. Tom hanks became more like popcorn. Movie star and meryl streep became more of oscar right and that's you know that's a wild generalization generalization and is incorrect as also reflects the gender imbalance double standards in hollywood but i think that there is something about him like movie movie star the guy who could open a movie right that led to him always being on people magazine and all of those things. There's something about him is like your like friendly neighborhood movie star right and i think the way that he that fans of his sort of evolved like from like rom com fans of tom hanks and he was like the rom com guy and and now he's like everyone was gonna go see him in like the mister rogers movie and like he had like his oscar period and like i feel like he has retained and sort of like keeps cbs creating new fans in a way like he hasn't really ever fallen out of the spotlight he just like kinda keeps evolving to like a new brand new kind of appeal right. I the other things similar to james d and there is always for a long time there are people being like is this. The next tom hanks and i guess people also do is this. It's the next meryl streep yeah. I don't know andrea should he. Just be a great actor. I think maybe he's a little too high on the list but he i feel like you should be on the list. People love tom here and he people love merits right yeah. You kinda like you've kind of just grown up with. Tom hanks right okay from your the love that he inspires alone like n people race staggering to me. Yes he's definitely one of the greatest movie stars all time. Which did you feel as a separate category from <unk> actors agreed also by the way i'm using actors to refer to actors and actresses under neutral term is that from i'm julia butters in once upon a time in hollywood. Oh yes yeah yeah great well. I just you know early on this is she's on the she's on the rising stars okay thirty two drake. Yes yes yeah. Well cates glaring at me. This was a replacement as well <hes> but i jordan leggings <unk> into this and said that he is the greatest like celebrity for internet culture which i agree with actually okay. I think that that's i mean indefinitely just the number of people who quote drake lyrics instagram right and like the games and the did the viral moments yeah he did weaponize twitter peter ryan in like a revolutionary way during the whole meek mill situation right that was devastating. No had obviously also you were hiding child right. Ah yes movie honest yeah great. I thirty one paul newman andrew. Please please explain all right well. First of all aw similar to james dean he's kind of just like the picture of leading man hollywood classic classic leading men but also <hes> yeah. I think he deserves to be on here because of newman's own great argument is that you shouldn't be laughing go i i just i talked to people you people without newman's own constantly because it's just so funny but he's literally in every grocery store in like you you go down the aisle. You see paul newman's face. It's like i never knew that with him. Wow to us. Hey i just had to go. I was like what is newman's own. Yeah and i've seen this. Obviously i made that connection. I think that's i think he's in every grocery. Store in america is a great argument. I think also in terms of like newman's own has been around for decades and now you got honest company. You got goop. You got all these try. God the original lifestyle brand that where you're basically you're laughing at me. Wait what we're doing this experiment though there i love it okay wow thirty elvis. I sort of like have this. It's on my list and was like why is elvis. I hear it's great scott to be the original heartthrob was also he built graceland and bright still right richard grayson so he has like the legacy of being you know like the o._j. Heartthrob etcetera but then he also has like the super weird phase like later in his life that like was just also as far as celebrity conspiracy theories. Go right elvis's alvis. I'm i got absolutely okay twenty nine wow i just want silence tough to talk about. It is tough to talk about him. Cutting above elvis is difficult for me but i know we're here. That's the debate right point. Inspire debates find <hes> i see yeah. He deserves to be on here somewhere. No outer my personal feelings for him. <hes> yeah in terms of celebrity e-content generated s. You have to acknowledge it right. We're all very tired now. Notable kanye west is on this listen. Taylor swift is not yes. Yes own just an okay celebrity. I mean i think i agree with you and i part of the problem. Recently that is her problem and she's not and there was a time when people really did connect with khania yeah and still do and are just fascinated by everything he does because he's so fucking weird yes. He's currently like building his own community in his backyard yeah mike and like his just his. He's like making that t._v. Show about himself. Jane smith is gonna play him but like an alternate unit like you can't. There's always something which that is a talent. Yeah yeah okay all right. Let's is keeping moving twenty-eight aretha franklin. Yes and i kinda gowns beautiful gowns and everything else again. That's gowns beautiful gown. A fabulous twenty seven napoleon bonaparte another just charity pick. I really feel like this is pretty good just for napoleon colin complex in addition to historical stuff that he gave us everything he did for short men in this world you have to if we're gonna give riot carry because because of i don't know her then you also have to if we're giving awards for celebrities who helped us understand others and basically gave us sociological terms terms. Yes absolutely ensured it. Twenty six is will smith fabulous. I think is deeply under appreciated by everyone older than me and in the entire world no. I've talked about this at great length on the big picture. I talked about this in one thousand nine music. I would like to challenge chris ryan to listen to miami and full. Oh please respect will smith's also just transitionally from being a rapper to a t._v. Star to instagram dad you gotta respect it and a movie star. All four quadrants has really famous kids to good point. That's true okay are ran aground day. I think our guard is on here for all the reasons taylor so does not on here. Which is that like. She knows how to play. The game. Outside of the music shows how to be an headlines like comeback back from mistakes. You know she's had so many scandals like you immediately. Forget about the donut looking or her. I don't think about it every day but like like a richer richer experience right and like she you know like thinking next video and the whole you know pete davidson. All of that is just such a ongoing is this this generations major popstar yes agreed and also in a lotta ways encapsulates late millennial earn early gen-x dealing with the world in all its ways. I don't know that you should be as high as she is here but i think well we basically i didn't count but i think we have. They like by profession. Pop stars are probably the most listed on the list. Guys think that's accurate which i think is also oh that makes a lot of sense yes because celebrity is so entered intertwined with it and always has been and always pushing the boundaries because they're being themselves it. Was you know at movie. Stars are a plane characters and or having lives outside of what they may and pop stars are creating eating and identity and you're writing music about yourself and you're selling it based on your own you know so. I think we have this many pop stars. That arianna ground is this generation's shark greatest pop star. I'm find with it twenty four bruce lii. Yes sure yeah do it yeah twenty three michael jordan. Wow did we do this on purpose. I don't thanks how is that his number yeah. Oh wow we didn't do that. I actually did but i didn't know what to think. Through through it that is fate. That's really funny. Yeah i think in terms of reach you gotta the commercials. If you have a crucial that it's i i wanna be like you then. You're liberty sure also i guess in terms of endorsements. He's probably the guy that did it for everyone right. Okay great twenty two joan of arc hell yeah sure yes <laughter> waste recounts and also as a historical figure who gave vice say a model of a certain type of person and absolutely we put them polling on here john here yeah again submitted by the person who submitted guy fear that is range my friend sarlat charlotte charlotte at this seriously twenty-one jennifer lopez. I i have to be honest list. I have spent so much time in the last year talking about how great jennifer lopez on this podcast and historically over time twenty years now jennifer lopez. I feel that for benefit alone. She married inclusion on this list. Yes in addition to her many professional accomplishments and addition to rehabilitating a ride. You know it's true. It's twenty years of people being really interested in her. Also it's twenty years of incredible abs which alone in my opinion she still she lets better than she has ever looked. Also the dress us the drastic game changing. That's like the google most google image search thing of all time. The thing is that google image search was invented wanted because of the dress. Oh that's right god okay. No that is yeah yeah. That's you deserve to be here absolutely contributions technology and celebrity okay. Jennifer lopez was twenty one. We're gonna do the top twenty but first. We need to take a break for word from our sponsor. Today's episode is brought to you by luminary new podcast subscription scripture service with some of the best content around. I'm excited about luminary because it's the only place you can listen to the newest show on the ringer network freak stuff the story of woodstock nineteen ninety nine. This is definitely definitely a podcast. You can't miss in nineteen ninety nine. 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Get your first two months of access to luminaries premium content for free when you sign up at luminary dot link slash dish after that it's only seventy nine per month. That's luminary dot link slash dish for two months of free access. Luminary link slash dish cancel anytime terms apply top twenty. How do you feel i feel okay. I feel like it's a very chaotic vibe but i've accepted it there. No internal logic to the no. I think if you're outraged by anything that's happened happen on this list. I need you to understand the exercise and the nature of list on the internet but also i get it embrace chaos. Yes roll with it. That's it's a personal expression. Russian is what this is and in in two thousand nineteen. You may also personally express yourself on your own podcast. This is okay twenty elizabeth taylor absolutely i think as we get into the top twenty it becomes less about do they deserve to be on this list and more about do they need to be higher or lower because i think all of our top twenty deserve to be here. It's just a question of where melissa tailored absolutely top twenty edgy. Are you advocating for top ten. I actually she's in a pretty good spot spot. Okay andrew yeah. I think she's good like one of the original tablet stars absolutely yeah exactly i nineteen lady gotta lady guy is one of the craziest celebrities while time i think in terms of inventing being a mold of celebrity at the time that she did in in late two thousand nine and not really inventing it. I think she barred from a lot of people which all artists do but it's capturing a lot of people's attention in the non traditional pop star way gotta give credit for that performance art the meat dress just just all of it was and now the way that she's transitioned to this totally different brand has evolved. I think she may be is like top ten. I think she's good where she is yeah. Yeah okay all right. Eighteen arnold schwarzenegger sure i'm here for it. Okay go ahead andrew. I mean just you go from the eighties and early nineties like <hes> just the biggest movie star <hes> like terminator in all that in kindergarten cop of course and then you move you move into his next phase as a politician and it's yeah i think that's just one of the peak celebrity moments in the last like it's certainly forecast things to come i yes this is a good time to note that we don't endorse everybody on lists or all of their actions right. Okay seventeen prince yeah absolutely. I think he's too low okay. It's i will come back to. I could see spot where he could go higher on the list. <hes> <hes> i kind of agree with you but at least he's at the top twenty prints being below jack nicholson who's at number six tough break. That's for everyone involved and i think the jack nicholson is a great celebrity and is maybe in terms of all time toxic bachelor her hollywood movie star situation. You really gotta give it to jack. Nicholson really pave the way is the mold. I was recently watching. Something's gotta gotta give which is a movie about jack nicholson and that's a rich text as sure as i think it's i don't know if we did this. Intentionally in sixteen fifteen and fourteen just read them as jack nicholson leonardo dicaprio and then brad pitt and i thought that that that was good. That's why it seems. It seemed right yeah. I think that these are okay. I feel like probably all three of them. Don't needs to be in the top twenty. I would say yes and i think in a lot of ways. Leonardo dicaprio is just skating on jack nicholson's blueprint jack nicholson leonardo. Di caprio could like jet ski or whatever that water. What is that water thing that i'm thinking of andrew you know the you know the jetpack water jet pack thank you yes. That's the technical term. Do you think is brad. Pitt that good of a celebrity outside of just acting branch selena yeah we're hanging around what he wasn't as weird of a part of that as angelina it was but he was he was the linchpin i think yeah spot for a large part of it for better and for the best i think he's also angelina one of the great movie stars. I agree with the movie star thing. I don't know if he's star plus part of this tabloid narrator and i think angelina jolie is a trans. It's fixing human. I admire a lot of the work that she's done and i both it for cherry work and for movies but i you know it's not the career that brad pitt esther which again and is the results of gender imbalance in hollywood among other things here we are. You know all right so i think i'm okay. That's the so toxic masculinity podcast with kate nibs about leo and brad pitt which i really enjoyed if you are interested in that. Please go listen to it but it was interesting 'cause i. I was the pro brad pitt person and you guys were more likely really important celebrity yeah. I think maybe leo's should should be above brad but brad. Brad brad just seems like one of the ideal forms of modern celebrity and in my eyes like when you look i think for us i think for him. It's a prison and it's like wow okay all right. Okay thirteen share air. Yeah yeah yes absolutely is on the share. Did how was it. It was terrific. Okay ah twelve george clooney was like yes but i also think he's way too high. We have too many there's too many of the same brand of celebrity basically have too many heads guys that i think they're really had some at. I'm charmed by them. I think clooney's probably a bit high but he does he did also. I guess leo leo and clooney together are the inheritors of the jack nicholson ray but then clooney took it to just took a global and now he's a celebrity everywhere everywhere. I guess for lake como the public position of lake como alone. Yes okay wow. I think that's why i think he's too high right but i agree. I think all these guys are too high. Okay i kind of do too but here we are eleven marilyn monroe yeah i. This seems correct. I would put her top ten but okay well. Unfortunately ten is occupied by jesus christ. Thank you you feel that jesus is more as a has had a larger impact than marilyn monroe. Can i just tell funny stories race elise as we were gathering submissions andrew came into the chat and i think that we're going to have to replace a couple. We got a little wild and kate was like i you also seen this admission and you're like i like them and you were talking about justin charities. I don't think justin won't mind me. I sharing this and i was out having seen the list was just like digestion put jesus on the list and he did he did and we decided to allow it we did. I don't want to get too deep into religious criticism but i will just say that being at the center of a religion is its own form of <unk>. I i would agree with that. Okay there. We go <hes> andrew. Would you like to talk about number nine number. Nine is john lennon the reciprocally. He's he's above jesus. Christ jesus he literally wants said were more popular than jesus christ right so that's why he he's he's also a great deals. Yes i think so too. He was in the beatles and i. I think that's a no-brainer top. Ten also like like his his post beatles career was also like an exercise with you so and then you know of course he's very tragic death in an early age. He now has a special memorial in central park. Which is that people make a pilgrimage to which is you're. You've made it well. It's he's certainly a celebrity. Okay number eight is ryota riana by far the most popular choice among staffers yeah multiple people had had to replace it with someone else. I think that is probably our well. We'll talk about this. She's so good at being a celebrity yeah. I was gonna say she might right for me. Be our most currently talented celebrity at all aspects of celebrity yeah because she obviously she started a pop star and as a popstar was was so famous and successful at that sh- there is obviously the interest in her romantic life you know her personal life and then she did think think that a lot of people try to do of trying to channel her fame into businesses that are self inches. I've had a wildly successful beauty company. <hes> <hes> lingerie company and is now launching a full fashion line with louis vitton. Whatever the name of the company is just in terms of monetize auditing <unk>. She is a major model and then is just still also has that personality right now so just seems to be having such a great time a celebrity and has these viral moments all the time that she just like has there's. I can't think of any rana backlash at least recently. I can't at all ever which is crazy considering just the level of fame that she's operating at yeah. She's great at literally. Everyone loves ron. I agree with it android. You have objections. Oh no okay great. I'm you know i said this is no i yeah i getting thanks you it. Yes her approval rating so high yeah. It might be the second highest on this list. Yeah okay number. Seven is david bowie which i think is a really great inclusion asian but when we were talking about prince i was like maybe prince should be here. Instead i agree. I think i think they're both really high up but i would put prince above david. David bowie bits close andrea. I i wouldn't put prince above david bowie. Just bowie ease ability will will. I like his recognition of the power of celebrity. I think it wanted like preceded prince and also it's a great point his ability to to to reinvent his celebrity like eight times over is were about to hit a few other people on this is list who are also they have endurance in this in this fear because of they've been able to reinvent themselves and i think david bowie's like kind of the the one who paved the way for that and was like i'm just going to be a different person now which is peak celebrity. I think that's a great argument. Yeah okay number. Six is madonna. I think so we are all children. I'm a child of the eighties. I don't need to comment but we we are all posted. Madonna children and i think it's it's strange now that we kind of take it for granted but she really did for most of the pop stars stars on this list right kind of stabbed. What do you think her like sort of recent mrs so to speak have affected this at all or is she just an icon no matter what now yes. She's still an icon but i sure i would say the past few years. It's been having graceful. It's it's not great yeah and we you know we talked about konya their people on this list who've had phases of their life totally been that do not qualify as great even though oh that's the name of this list right there there no one is perfect and there are some actual problems but i think madonna in terms of what she did in the career career number five. Is tom cruise. I agree with this. I do too yeah okay all right the young one person would like to he just i don't love him. I don't find him particularly super weird. It's not about i know interest. I know i just it's fine. This is fine but as a movie star it which is different than right in terms of charisma and people agreeing really attached to them in terms of off off the screen drama all off the screen dramas like scientology related like does that make him one of the greatest celebrities of all time. Well not all of it. I mean a lot of it okay well. Let's let's let's go easy on our yes mckay. That's all you can. You asked everyone google anything that they wanna google but i think that the tomcat stuff jeff which was very strange i mean the couch jumping the dengue got the entire societies kind of collective awakening to the publicity aspect of celebrity and that these people are people in machine and that things things can go wrong and things are arranged and what's going on here is definitely a part of his narrative sharp and what's most amazing about it is then he we still he pitted it out and now he's just the action star right who is willing to risk his life on every single movie and people have really come come back around right brand evolution is impressive height but even even there you go see a mission impossible movie or you go see top gun because all my god <unk> tom cruise. He'll do anything he he is lending his aura chew to the project andrew yeah. I i remember where i was when i found out that tom cruise and katie breaking up and i do too. I don't know that i can say that about any other celebrity break. I tell you where it was. I was was on a. I was driving with my now husband. We were not married at the time and we were driving to a friend's wedding and we are you know it was like friday afternoon and we were trying to if you traffic and get out of the city and so i believe i had taken the and this was i think before twitter was twitter. You know this is before your phone was basically a part of your hand right and and you knew everything instantly and we were on the b._q. We'd been sitting in traffic for about an hour when my husband just kind of casually mentioned that he'd seen this headline and i was just like what the i started it was like how could you not tell me we have been sitting in trying new know our we in a car. I i've vividly remember the rage that i that i had not known this yeah yeah so i i agree with you ninety. Your story is more or less dramatic. I was on a on a mega bus on my way a back to rochester new york and like i remember like where the sun was in the sky. It just like it's one of those things that you just like remember and and i don't know i'm not saying that he's like good celebrity but he's i don't know one of the one of the biggest influential like understand celebrity like you need. You need to look good and i think for the top five. This is all very true. Number four is princess diana. I will not surprise anyone anyone that. I think that she is low ranked here. At number four <hes> i have talked about this at great length and i really recommend the tina brown book about princess diana. Dan i called the diana chronicles but she sort of invented not invented but the level of global celebrity just for being being a person and the era in which she was doing it which is kind of simultaneous invention of tabloids and around the media around the clock news and all of that stuff <hes> and also tabloids becoming adversarial as opposed to everyone working through publicis assists <hes> and things being controlled and 'paparazzi et cetera she kind of brings that all together and obviously her early death was very tragic and her funeral is kind of this. That's another where you remember where you were. When at least that funeral was happening or when you found out that she died because it was such jim major event. Is that fair yeah. I see here okay. Thank you guys. You knew that you couldn't say anything but i appreciate appreciate. The support number three is mohammed ali act like a he could be number one honestly yeah. I and i think thinks he's <unk>. I'm okay with him at three because of who we've got it to at one yeah three feels right for me right but in terms of inventing the persona you know and being that person the greatest yeah in public and his interaction with the press and his <unk> his accomplishments. I kind of think he could be number one. I'm fine with number three. He was also extr extremely popular amongst. You just invented a lot out of this event it all out of the way that we talk about. I don't know anything yeah but certainly anything in the public. Yeah i mean you said it he he invented like how to make yourself a celebrity and yet all that bombast yes is him okay number. Two is beyond say controversial. Take is beyond a too high on this list no okay. I don't think so. I know she's number two so tell me why she's he's just the greatest pop star of all time. Certainly her image is. I think i just the most iconic nick modern pop star yeah yeah andrea her impact is. I just think it's like unparalleled like right she. He does one thing and it's it's like an like. I don't know just the world. The world explodes a little bit right she she she spoke in a barely emotive voice in lion. King and people still thought it was the most amazing thing that ever happened. That's very true. Maybe the highest approval rating of like her paolini current pops are ever. I think reality is approval. Rating might actually fire if all i only because negatives right and the control the beyond say has over her image and over. It's almost become like part of her like it's legend like you know all the the crazy things that she does to like create. This image and honestly beyonce is not adopted like the internet. I think quite as well as she maybe should have <hes> but also like she doesn't have to sponsor right she choose grandfather been right in terms of privacy and it is true that lemonade is sort of is is one of the great celebrity and and also musical achievements rate of of our time. It's still pretty insane that that happened. Yes i another thing where i remember exactly where i was. Yes when that happened and what it was absolutely. I was standing on a sidewalk outside. The restaurant otis and penelope and contentious speed home in order to make sure i watched it that that same night it was an appointment viewing immediately and literally everyone was like this is the greatest thing i've ever seen and also oh oh my god are they okay right right and also let us not forget the elevator tayo the elevator the just everything with daisy just yeah yes assu the interest plus. Just being are the greatest pop star and one of the great talents. That's that's the other thing is part of it. Beyond on say is meryl streep in the sense that she just is so right singularly talented absolutely but then she does also have the okay. You convince me great great why we're here great the number one. Is this a controversial number. I think it is a country where side. I think it's a little bit. Are you serious. I i mostly agree with it okay. It's oprah oprah i. I'm surprised to hear you think that that's controversial. I don't think it's wrong. I just think it's controversial but i agree. What's controversial about oprah. I think it's the nothing is controversial and so therefore people are like what like it's just oprah well. Sometimes you just gotta say number why i agree. She's a local t._v. News person and became one of the most recognizable all successful trusted you know she's really the only person who has a higher approval rating than ghana s people love oprah people will buy anything that oprah for tolerate read anything that oprah tells them to read which like she basically invented. Both of those things has been the case for like thirty years now right. Anyone who meets oprah of all ages fame creeds. Anything is just like oh. My god i met oprah told me it's like. I don't want to be heretical here but we have jesus on. Melissa oprah's pretty close but she's also a human being yeah. We love her. I don't know andrew. Actually you call. I actually like well well. You were convincing the convince myself because like i think a few of the people on this list are major celebrity's because of oprah okay <hes> <hes> let's true we. We just talked about the couch jumping thing. That's a great point that happened on oprah. Show <hes> so yeah. I sure with oprah it really ever at the top of my list but okay makes sense good segue segue. Would you like to share cheerier personal list. Yes i would okay so you don't say is on my list okay. Are these in any particular order. No oh okay. I'm in order them right now. As okay great do at yonsei <hes> number one on my list leaner caprio is on my list just ed personal reasons. David bowie is on my list paul newman. The founder of newman's own is of course for number number five the one who is not on our gwyneth paltrow. Wow i can't believe it. I didn't notice that gwyneth. Paltrow isn't on our top. The counter is not a top fifty slave all tied andrew. I appreciate it. I like it. I think gwen including gwyneth is an away an argument in for oprah being number one that's true because oprah is paves the way for all of these people to be celebrities liberty's as kinda gurus and recommend recommendations machines yes so i see it. I think she could be on her way. She's great to me though hilariously. She's not on my list. Even though i love gwyneth yeah i was trying to be intellectual about it yeah. Maybe that was dumb kate. Do you wanna share your yeah. Mine is also not as fun because i was just trying to be right yeah. That's okay <hes> number one also beyond say and i both say number one number number two prints. He changed his name to a symbol <hes> number three oprah number former marilyn monroe number five elvis okay. I think those are my number. One is oprah so there we go. That's good my number. Two is princess diana number. Three's riana action actually like that yeah i like that i did four john lennon okay <hes> even though i just wanted it on record that my favorite beetle is paul mccartney but in terms of greatest celebrity yes. It's just the narrative errative right now everything that it was accomplished and number five is brad pitt great stuff okay so we at least feel represented by s- nonsensical how how are you feeling at the end of this process. I feel good. Actually i feel fantastic. I feel a little weird about some of these but i feel like we have dragged our co workers for shame just enough feel the top that the numbers thirty one to well thirty five to fifty or just absurd yeah or maybe thirty six michelle obama could be on this list. I could have done a lot worse quickly for the fact that the start out as a joke and how quickly we told it together okay from submissions from random ass co workers. I feel pretty good about this opening the door to historical figures i think we've left some important ones off but for the most par okay guys this was a pleasure. Thank you for doing this ridiculous exercise. I thought experiment you the listeners for indulging us. Feel free to share your list. Be respectful be respectful. That's what i ask. We're all here trying. I just think about celebrity together some fun podcast network so we will hear from you. I'm sure thank you so much kate andrew thank you and we will be back next week <music>.

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S9 Ep 13: John Legend

"Hello and welcome to table special circumstances. I'm Jessie ware and I'm here with my mom fire soon. Hi Mom Hi Darling. How are you curling? I'm really I'm watching. The days is growth on fine during the day. And then I go to bed and think it's going to be exactly the same tomorrow or maybe a little bit more depressing. Who knows not more depressive. Depressed I'm not as anxious but become more superstitious. Oh tell me about this so I do certain things in a ritualistic way. Because I'm worried if I don't do it that way. Something terrible will happen is that from the OCD of the washing and the cleaning the food and the in the hands. So maybe it's kind of Jesse. Do you see me as a no CD TYPE PERSON. I knew about my bedroom. Crikey Jesse. Ocd about you're you're a slow. I am so tired why I don't know I mean. I had a bit of a mental day. Today did Graham Norton. I did you do it. Yeah but you know so so Graham Norton is doing his TV show remotely and so you know. It's an absolute honor to Graham Norton. He's amazing and the show's great. But we have to think of an idea of how to self shoots it and you know no Glam squad. I can deal with that last night. It was quite funny during getting Patrick Wilson to tell me how to talk my hat. Jesse was so crowd. I'm so rapid. Anyway that's the Patong. Come over on. The top is backseat driving even Cova nineteen blood details anyway. Who Knew Nick? Grimshaw has a whole Disco Party thing at his house that he lent me for this so I had I had a laser. We have a smoke machine from somebody else. We had these wicked neon lights. Only my daughter's bedroom because it was all connects. It's the only place that blackout blinds. And we made it like this Rayvey Club then with my daughter watching measuring the bear on the IPAD and my son causing havoc so. It was highly stressful. But not because I was doing a you know a national television performance. But more because I had about ten thousand Gizmos at the same time so shooting on phone and laptop and having to do my vocal winter. I mean yeah. It was bizarre but quite funny and I don't know I think when. Okay so yeah. That's what I did today and I'm just not code adrenaline darling of a twitch in both is that because you're tired anyway mom. What did you eat today? Oh I've made delicious food today. Actually so for my lunch had a small piece of salmon grilled and had just with lettuce a my major Lamanova gene kind of Iranian stew for tonight. It was really nice. I just put some die. Slamming the I I had to the light leg stakes which are very nice and I just cried and onion fried out. Some aubergine put the landman attitude tomatoes tomato puree in a little lump stock and just let it simmer for two hours was had it with couscous. Yeah of GOP rarely seen. It's really nice with lamb so this is a massive deal for US tonight darling. We've loved him for we've Larry and we're not ordinary people. 'cause WE'VE GOT TA Best Best John? He's always the best. It makes me want to cry all the time where ordinary. But don't you just remember how much we used to play his record? Once again. Yeah loved. It loved it loved. He's so brilliant and he is. One of my favorite singers are absolutely do him quite like to be married him. Which you Chrissy Teigen's bonus she's fabulous. She's gorgeous. I'm kind of hoping because they're in lockdown that maybe she'll sneak her head in that children are so good. You're so cute cute. It's going to be just a little disclaimer from old producer. Alex who's obsessed with sound and likes to make you give a clap throughout. This is wonderful. Yeah just a little disclaimer. It may sound a little different because John is in the states. doesn't have a mic within a dope thing so it may sound a little bit more iffy and. I'm sorry about that so John. Legend has a brilliant Nissanka bigalow vow. And he's got a new record coming out a new album. I think so. He's doing the old look down. Album out situation seems to be smacking it singing together at home as piano senior. Giamet was Tom Smith at the weekend. And Yeah like this record is really. Oh no I live the new song. It's a really catchy. Beat but not as much as I like your New Song. My darling thanks. Mom Who la La yes I haven't cooked and is out now and it's on my new album. That's coming out on June the nineteenth at Kumasi pleasure can you pre-order it Dr S. U. Computer? Good you preloaded. Of course I have. I've already downloaded Tucson's from it. So just be completing out. Because of course I'm the only person the whole wide world that still buys record while we'll say on June. The Nineteenth John Legend coming up on taking matters special circumstances. John Bloody Legend. We're sitting kind of opposite you go you. You Mail ready is that what is that. We made chicken and dumpling soup last night and these are the yolk. These are the leftovers. So what are you dump? Things like is Is a dumpling like imaginable? That mom would do. Or is it. Like a dumpling. How even Chrissy? Chrissy has a great recipe in her book. her second cravings book and Yeah the the dumplings are just flour butter Baking powder a milk. And I think that's a I'm helped to make a last night till I'm trying to remember but I think that's all the Senate and they're kind of like you know they're really and their balls. Oh yeah that. That's a big bowl now. From like one one tablespoon scoops of dough and each each one made a ball like the Nice will John such a pleasure to have you have site and well everyone I know such funds view an an? I really am not just saying that. Once again we played on. Repeat the whole time among had had assisted maxine so it was like anyway. I WANNA know who was once again is one of my favorite things. I've ever done as an artist and when we were writing that Song. I was writing it with a group called Sarah They were a really cool selective based in La and We were writing together and we had written almost the whole song and it was based on the idea of catching your love or out with another person in the whole conceit of this song was similar to a song that Nancy wasn't using called guests. Lysol today where she describes his beautiful story about this lovely couple awards they look together But the catch was that the one the man in the couple was her and he was stepping out on her and this was her a roundabout way of telling him that she had caught him cheating. And so we want to write a similar song for for maxine. But we didn't have a name picked out for who this character was. It was cheating on me until the end. And we didn't even know that we're GONNA put a name in the song but at the end while we were writing. I ought to be fun and funny to just call her out because the whole song were kind of alluding to the fact that it might be someone. Yeah it's like her and then at the May not be and so by the end without it'd be cool to say. Hey was you and we were trying to pick a name. That sounded a little quaint. You know like a little bit old school something. That kids weren't really being named at the time we were writing saw. And we pick maxine without sound nice and just felt right had the rate by five and a turns out. My Grandmother's Middle Name is maxine. I'm just so happy that I used maxine in the song. Unfortunately it's about somewhat mad mad at in the song but still happy for grandma. House house a lockdown tree in you. You know how you getting on House kind of house. Things Change. We perform last night. Well you did it on the Saturday right. It was we filmed our performances earlier in the week. And then the producers put the whole show. They did a masterful job. Yeah they did a great job of putting everything together. I did a duet with Sam Smith. We did stand by me. And then a group of US did a prayer a Andrea Bocelli Lady Gaga. At Long Long. And then I did a a debut performance of my new song bigger love so we were doing lots of performances from home. He's as avid learn. How to sell film and self record in all kinds of things and You know that's what we're doing professionally with families just hanging out with the kids today. I think they like it you. I'm listening to so much more radio. The Mayan I'm I'm I'm listening to music a lot. Well because I've actually got time to listen to music with the cooking and whatever but like I want to know I mean this is about food this podcast of other things but what what have you been cooking a lot off. I'm most most responsible in my house for cooking breakfast so I could. Pancakes for the kids Omelets for me and Christy waffles. French toes pretty much any breakfast. You could imagine bacon sausage all that stuff. I'm responsible for and I. I like to play music while I'm cooking. Yes so often stream. Sometimes I'll do a playlist of stuff that I've already put together of some of my favorites this or that You know artists and sometimes I'll listen to an album You know but most time. It's actually played as I wanNA get your plate at somebody get some good ones. I published a lot of really. Who's your favorite the moment? My favorite artist. Oh I don't know if I have one favorite I listen to all sorts of things Listening to Goes new album which I think is very good it I Love James. Blake listened to him a lot still. His last album is a rhapsody. I've been listening to that of new rapper. Relatively new rapper. Anna we We actually have a song on my upcoming album together. She's mazing. I listen all sorts of things but I do make a lot of platelets so I listened to a lot of old school like Marvin Gaye and stevie wonder and aretha Franklin Nina Simone. It's a it's a good mix. Is that what you listen to a new growing up growing up? I listened to a lot of Gospel so I grew up in a house. Where when we were young Gospel was the main music. We were allowed to listen to. We weren't even allowed to listen to secular music as children but as we got a little older who are on a preteen and teen years than I was freed up more. My parents got divorced. And you WanNa get divorced let things slide aqua so. I grew up at that point listening to a lot of soul in a lot of R&B that was current at that time so artists like voice to manage. Oh to see and how you night heavy into like the sexy Cher. I liked the new Jack. Swing era of was big for me At that was what was hot when we were growing up. So I'm I'm forty one and I was growing up in the late eighties early nineties mid nineties. Enzo a Lotta the phone records. I love that time. We're like Mary. J. Blige or guy or the Angelo a little bit later and a different artists during the area jodie. All those artists were like the current climate artisan. Me and my friends would talk about all the time and we would do little boy groups You know in our high school or we would try to mimic voice to manage otas. The that was a big part of our a musical influence at the time. But I also loved motown's I loved like Stevie wonder heartache to acquire church choir at Church I was in a show choir at school. I Sang Acapella group in College. So I've been seeing with groups of people for a long time and so what we brought up in Los Angeles. I was brought up in Springfield. Ohio is a small city in the Midwest and a blue collar town. My Dad was a factory worker. My mother stayed at home with us. Both of them were Taylor's and they may close breasts and tailored clothes for us at our people in our community. And did you mom single you dancing to both of 'em black to sing it up professional but my mom used to sing around at our church. She was the choir director at our church. My grandmother was a church organist on my mother's side and my grandmother on my father's side a saying in played a bit too and sang in the church. Fire Her church of so. We had lots of music in our house and in our church and so it was. It was surrounding me all the time. What was dinner like your parents in cooking so memorable about your childhood. An who did the king. And what's a memorable male? Well it's interesting because I started doing a lot of cooking when my parents divorced because we lived with our dad wasn't so great cocaine and we all as kids at like takeover a lot of duty I like food more than any of my brothers and my sister and so I decided I would start cooking but we all like doing chores around the house dishes laundry. We all got assigned dude things of because our mom wasn't there and so I started cooking by the time I was like eleven. I was cooking almost all the meals in the house so occasionally I would make like nice meals from scratch like the check under something like that but most of the title will be the easy meals like a kraft Mac and cheese or a rice aronie hamburger helper. What's a helper or you guys? Don't have that there so we just use ground beef Brown and then you mix it with the packet that it comes with the it's just like a premade this season is a premade mix and they have a like a some noodles that go with it it kind of creates a kind of possible in case for you but it's a lot more classy than a possible and then and then. I would make like Jelly or spaghetti using some scratch ingredients but also some of the But we just made do and we kind of figured our own breakfast out. We usually just eat cereal or something cold But I made dinner almost every night. Wow but used to cook now but I mean you do. You'll you'll marry to a pretty incredible cook. I gather I mean yeah. So how does that work you just like babe? Can you give me a night where I can just do dinner tonight? No she loves it. She loves it when I cook. And she gets tired of cooking sometimes especially when she's finished with their book. It's almost like it's almost like when I finished touring. I don't WANNA sing for a little while back. I feel the same way when she's just finished a books he's liked over it for a while and she's not feeling creative a at that moment and she's like about it so she's happy to have me help and sometimes. I'll take over the whole meal of sometimes out be his sous chef and we'll do it together on sometimes. I'll do breakfast lunch for the kids. But she'll make dinner for me and her so it was kind of all over and sometimes we order paranoid. Did she know she could cook when you started dating? Was that one of the attraction. No she's gorgeous. It was high on his list of Oslo to ask her when he saw Chrissy. Yeah do you Did you meet? We met actually on a video. Shoot so my one of our good friends. It's a mutual friend but we we didn't know each other at the time we got a mutual friend named Bill Ellison. He's a photographer and he was wanting to become a director in his career but he had only been a photographer up to that point and he was like John. I WANNA make a video for this song. You have called Stereo. And it wasn't a single but he just liked the song and wanted to make us video on SPEC which basically that he was gonna pay for it if he wanted to use it as his calling card as video director saying. Hey I can do this. Look what I did with John Legend. So he said. I love to make this video on Spec for this on it that are really light and I had this girl that I know that I've worked with before I think you would really like and I want to cast her in the video. He showed me pictures of her. And he's I think he would like her to and so he cast her and we hit it off that day and We've been together ever since We were living on separate coasts at the time. She was living in Los Angeles and I was living in New York at eventually. We started living together on both coasts and a fell in love. And you know the rest is history and The cool part about that is the bill is still both of our friends and He shot the video for all of me Seven years after we met and we got married seven years after we met and and Lake Como and he shot the video there. It's a full circle. Moment like Comas. Magical John I'm really interested in singers. What they eat or what. They won't eat before they perform an. Id Heard this myth about your. Somebody told me that you would eat chicken wings before show to line your voice and I don't know who told me this I was like that has blown my mind. Because I'm very neurotic and I would be like I'd be like I must drink water. Lukewarm WATER WITH HONEY. And and is this true. I don't eat chicken wings before my show of they used to be on my rider and they'll be like a snack earlier in the day but I took them off the writer because I was eating too many of them but I do eat chicken before my show so I'll have like a rotisserie roasted chicken sitting here with vegetables. I won't eat all of it but I'll kind of eat some of it And I do like feeling the I dunno just the juices of the chicken in my voice right before the show. I won't eat a lot of it but I'll have a bit of it before the show so this is a true myth to me for some. It's not a myth anymore. It's fact yeah I used to be I had wings wings are kind of a separate thing so basically mind right or two and then the roasted chicken would be there for my actual dinner but I still have the roasted chicken dinner. I'm Wendy wheat. How long before you presume usually like forty five minutes? Maybe my God talk your like Your Wild Joan things dairy. I don't drink alcohol on tour. Pretty much all Drinking wine here. I drink wine all the time. What I'm not on tour and I'm out on tour now. Grand actually do is called L. V. E. LV legend vineyard exclusive so it kind of almost spells love. So it'd be heads that love basically been yard. We do most of it in California in Napa Valley so we have a NAPA. Cabernet Sauvignon Avenue Napa. Red Blend that's mostly not Surat and then we have a Napa Chardonnay and I love all of them. But my favorite is the Cabernet Sauvignon And then we also have a couple from France we have a Rosaiah sparkling rose name from France and we have a sparkling white up from California as well. I'm like when did you start doing that? It's been a while now are I. Carbonate was the two thousand thirteen which came out in twenty fifteen. I believe yeah plenty. How but do you feel like you're cheating on your vineyard? If you drink something else I drink my own most of the time. I'm probably my best customer. Especially during this this a quarantine then the next thing fee to do pin restaurant Charleena. I think we should always talk Christie. We should but it's hard to run a restaurant and obviously not the time but but Yeah I think we should do. I think it'd be fun and it's just an expression of who we are. We both love. We ask everybody what there are. Supper would be so starter main and we call it pudding but you call it dessert and a drink of choice. I think I know you'll drink of choice. Perhaps would be the company. I don't want to put words in your mouth but go what would it be so starter? That's a tough question for the starter. I know what I'd do after that. Okay go start off that and the the main body of meal. I Love Fried Chicken and I love Mac and cheese. I love soul food as we call it here And I would have soul food meal as my last meal do fried chicken Mac and Cheese Collard. Greens and my dessert would be a I love cobblers and crumbles so I like I like the taste of a fruit pie? But with the crust of like crumble. A type thing so I love like apple crumble with with vanilla ice cream or each grumbler or piece of nonsense Marie America. That we We interview if they with ice cream. She that's her. Yes sorry. Carry on them. Jonah I've got to ask you because I follow you on twitter. Not least of all because of your political messages and allegiances. Do you think Donald Trump will be a one term president? Actually think he will be a terrible predicting things pretty. I predicted he would lose last time. But I I'm looking at the numbers and I like people want to return to sanity in some kind of normalcy. I think Biden offers that he's a person has shown that he's got empathy and And he steady and he feels like somebody that everyone knows and loves and I think they need that right now during this crazy crisis Biden wasn't my first choice for the Democratic nomination but I think he was being it was Elizabeth Warren. Actually I think ten I mean not that I can fail to. I think he's brilliant. An epidemic and energetic and I feel like especially now we could use someone like her to be a problem solver but that's not going to be the case and Biden's our nominee. I think he's clearly a extremely An extreme improvement on what we have right now. And we'll Elizabeth Warren be his running mate. She might be but he's also looking at other people that I really like Stacey. Abrams can be a woman isn't it? He's promised that it's going to be a woman so I think he's looking at Karma Harris. He's looking at Gretchen Whitmer. Who's the governor of Michigan? He's looking at a few different people. We still have the starter that you have to do in your drink of choice okay starter. Let's do soup. Let's assume for my starter. Okay which I love Christie's French onion soup. I think that would be really good enough flame. She has a French onion soup in her latest book. And it has of course ought as the bread on top and it is so so good it makes a lot of sense because it's a really Deng Kabul thing as as buttery in its own so yes yes. That's an excellent idea you have. The cheese melted on the KOSSOVO. Yes melt the cheese on the cross. Don't stop mom you'll be able to get you out like we do. I'm going to be able to get out beyond like Eighteen Gilbert grape soon. I'm telling you I WANNA ask. Obviously we're times be putting me SCALP. Also people need music people like consuming it more in a different way and I think it's kind of I don't know about you but I feel like people are appreciating music in this different space with being able to have to space to be able to listen properly. Maybe not be this deluge of like you must have this but you are an eagle. Is that what you can be cooled? Is that what you one can be cool yet. He has an emmy a grammy. An Oscar and a Tony One. Yeah he's a big deal but like so. What is the big deal? How can we add another like initial to that? So what would be? What else is there to do? What I need is a Brit. Do you should get a bra in some way. Yeah nominated for best international new artist With my first album came out but I haven't gotten any sense that I can recall all songs great. I love. Give thank you. So we've got three of them out down so the first one we put out came out when it was on this is us the NBC. Show here in the. State so that was called conversations in the series. The third series. It was a it was aired in January here. I don't know where air okay. I'm up to see three but I haven't finished it but I don't know whether there's a full series in the state. I'm not sure I haven't got up to. I haven't gone home so we we put a song called conversations in the dark that show and released within and that one's really doing well. It's just a sweet ballot kind of one of the songs you might get married or something and then Are you good at that? I got a good track record and then And then we put out on his own actions. Which of course is a actions. Speak Louder love songs of and it's a fun. Song is kind of based on the same sample that Dr. Dre used for next episode. So it's kind of hip hop arm v Fusion and then We just put out. This weekend was a fun. Kind of Caribbean inspired dance on called a bigger love. That's that's the one we just put out. We're actually doing a challenge that we just issued today To get people if they want to be a part of the video try to be creative with our making videos We want people to You know dance for the camera They WANNA be in the media and will make a compilation of the viewers to admit it of videos that we get. That should be fine on. You're always sitting down because you're you're piano can you don? I'm not that great dancer. I'm not oh I wouldn't say I'm terrible but I think all the time that I spent at the piano has made me good at chair dancing. I it comes in Handy when I'm on the voice which I'm sitting in my chair a lot and so I I've become very good. Chair dance there but what I'm actually standing up. I'm just okay can Christie Don now. Neither of us very good dancers my daughter-in-law's the dance. She's been taking dance class. She's only four years old. You have the most gorgeous in the world. Thank you thank you so your. Id Seated Dancer Karaoke so I like to rack to wrap when I get home because my belief is is not fair for me to be doing karaoke. Let I mean it's the whole point of care is for like amateur singers to fill like their stars and if you know I shouldn't be there shoul everybody up so I figure I'm an amateur rapper. So I'll wrap up. I like Jay Z. Like biggie. You know. Artists listened to a lot and would be able to mimic their flow enough. I wanted to ask whether you'll be doing musicals again. I Love Doing Jesus Christ superstar. It was so fun for me and I would do something again. If I love the role in love the team around it was really a fine beautiful process. Working with that team was eras. She's amazing Andrew Lloyd. Webber was producer on the on the broadcast. And we got to spend some time with Ed. Our director a is a Brit named David Leveaux And we had such a great team and it was so fun and so inspiring to do the show. I would do another one for sure. So which part would you like to play? I don't know I I I have to think about the next thing I would like to do. But maybe I'll write something that you should do that. What was the thing that you when you when you when you get your orders in? What's the thing that you feel like? You can't live without because I know that we do a leaper on what I was like I know. You're not stockpiling Durham. But what did you go into the shops and you will? I need this and she was like hot sauce. I got like four different sources which I probably didn't need anything that you kind of. Stop Paul but not. I'm not saying you stole the out of the hands of another person but you know something that you would like this absolutely essential Christie had already been stockpiling a one sauce. She loves a one steak sauce. Avon steak sauce like a brown suit. Tangier catch up. It's like tenured smokier TATA. Do you have good tape on? I'm sure you do have good table manners. That especially good. I'm not like I'm not very formal about a lot lot of things I like. I they wish you should be kind and you should have consideration for other people. But I'm not very formerly into like etiquette and manners. I just you know. Just when he joined myself table manner in someone else. My worst table meant well. I eat too fast Jesse you an him. Sheri table so I can have a second play quick you you know. Well I think it was. I don't know how many siblings you have. But I had three other siblings and we felt like we didn't have a lot of food. We were growing up. We had enough but you know right on the edge so if you wanted seconds you had the finish quickly and I think that's that's why I ate fast and then I started traveling so much for my word of and getting so busy that food would be like in the way like if I took too long to eat that I couldn't get all other stuff I wanted to get done so I don't know I've just got used to eating really fast except for this meal because I'm talking may concise. Sorry about this but you know it's funny you so I think with children. We eat around the dinner table together. And it's a really romantic idea that you're going to eat around the dinner table and then a you'll you'll feeding one trying to shove and so I feel like I go so quickly now because of trying to kind of stay the ship when it's a matter of dinner party with my toddlers but I want you to know you've eaten all around the world you know you've traveled. You told whereas some of your favorite restaurants I mean. La You in La now a night where like some of these tastes. Even Christie. Can't live without you. Will we love a place called in Nanka. It's Japanese food. That is some of the Sushi. But some of it's just all kinds of really cool things of very Just so delicate precise and beautiful. Every presentation is beautiful. It's an experience you go for a couple hours. It's like you really just enjoy. The CARE is put into the food. And it's just everybody is so good and so beautifully curated of so you should deppish lamb about some New York because I lived in new awhile in New York. Well we had all kinds of range of places like York. You'll Francis David Chang updated so we've been fans of him for a long time And very early on when he started. Momofuku of the noodle bar we were living a few blocks from there so we would walk over there and eat all the time and we love it. We had one of Christy's birthday parties there a week. Truly love is work and that was before we were friends with her now. We're friends with them. Christie's producing a him as a guest on a his other show. So we love David Chang anything he does. He doesn't believe we also love a little Italian restaurant in the neighborhood. Caught Frank I've been going there since I moved to the East village which was way back in the year. Two Thousand and It's been a neighborhood staple for a long time but then we also like some of the elevated places like Lebron in eleven madison was Thais. We Love Del. Postel which is amazing to so the whole range we like to really elevate stuff a lot of the noodle bars and local joints we love to. Is Frank Right by where East village radio used to be on Second Avenue? I love that. Yeah I love. That place is great. If you had to choose one country's cuisine would it be Italy? Where would it be? Italy's right up there. I also love southern food in America. Which is really good at at. Love East Asian food or even South Asian boots who? I love Indian Thai food. I Love I love Japanese restaurants. I think the JAP the restaurant scene in Tokyo. I think maybe the most impressive overall restaurants in the world but they have all kinds of cuisine to some of his Japanese cuisine but they also do really well everything else. It's just it's just a really great food city Tokyo with John. It's been such a pleasure to chat. I feel so guilty with you. You've got your bloody sleep is going to be absolutely called now and the dumplings are going to be a bit. Salvador. Put it back in the microwave. It's leftovers anywhere. Bet thanks so much for doing. This is on such a pleasure. I found a voice is just school Jeff. Beyond and I think I'm going to start doing very chicken before I go on stage. We are ordinary. Oh my God you should have gone to say. Why don't we get? Wow he's not ordinary is a. he's a legend. He's very legal. He's just so serene. Have a lovely time lovely live. I just love to be quarantined with Chrissy and John. Thank you John Legend. Shame Kristie didn't come round. I'm sure she was busy looking after the kids and cooking something delicious. You know how it is. Just thank you so much for listening. I'm Jesse where a bit tired. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I'M GONNA go to bed with a twitchy I oh I thought you can't me darling? Why am I the most higher during quarantine my friends thought I was stoned on the quiz yourself like no? I just can't see anymore because I'm so tire where you glosses Dr Link. Yeah maybe I need swam across the movie on T. Meghan Tate. All right mom night mom. Thank you for listening. The music you've heard on table manners is by Peter Duffy. Pete Fraser Table members is produced by Alice Williams.

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