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Identifying Your Fantasy Bonds

Mission Daily

12:53 min | 7 months ago

Identifying Your Fantasy Bonds

"Welcome everyone to another episode of mission daily. It is Tuesday here. Semi live from Palo. Alto brought shotgun. You hear the giggles. It's Lacey Lacey. What I'm Chad I'm great Just burning some stage here enjoying myself. Rocking the double headphones. It doesn't get much better than that. Yeah well unfortunately for you. I control social so those headphones will be making it very soon to the instagram muscle. Yeah I got the The kind of homeless low not quite sure when the last time I Shave or took a shower was nobody else's either. And that's okay because this is a show about breaking down the cultural bounds the optic con of outsider approval that sometimes we see ourselves seeking or falling into and busting out of the limits around ourselves and Lacey. I've been reading a book under the name of it. Yeah yeah that's a good place to start all right. Let's do it. This is without a doubt the best news I've heard in a long time. You know how as you read a book and you start it and you completely forget about it you almost like just write it off you get midway through or whatever and you just lose it in the in the shuffle in the madness of life right so this is one of those books and started reading. A book called the fantasy bond structure of psychological defenses. Say like two years ago however sometimes information you most need to hear. Is the information that you just let fall through your fingertips and it was information that I desperately needed at the time but because my psychological defenses were so built up and because PTSD was so severe. I just wasn't able to hold onto this message. I was so defensive that I pushed it away and now I've brought it back into my life and I'm internalizing it so when here with the books about it. Well let's message. Yeah so as individuals who are coming into the world with intergenerational trauma with our own traumas from childhood and we're talking trauma broadly defined here so arguably everyone just by nature of being born in the world goes through some crazy stuff We're all humans. Do nothing human is foreign to us all those things. We have our own unique situations that we have to face however the horror and the severity of some of this trauma can create fantasy bonds and fantasy bonds are idealized relationships or fantasy that we slip into and we place on our relationships especially with parental figures to mask the reality of how they might feel about us and you know. Confucius said the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their correct name and many of US use similar words. However what those words mean to us into. Different people isn't always clear right so one person might say I always cared for you. I've you know whenever since you were born. I've loved you bottle Blah but definitions of love are going to be different from yours and in the fantasy bond. The author Robert Firestone conducted a really interesting experiment where he looked at all of his patients and allow the work that you've been doing over decades and he was just seeing this recurring trend of a fantasy type illusion that these individuals had in their lives. So we're not talking like delusions of grandeur. We're not talking delusions of everything's wonderful. We're talking about really specific illusions that create this armor and this defensive posture that is almost impossible to escape so sometimes it might be delusions of grandeur or over idealized visions of like omnipotent parents or a spouse but often it's just this veil that goes over reality where we over idealize everyone outside of ourselves and kind of censor ourselves in the process interesting. So is it about like how we tend to create our own ideas of like what to expect. Lake is based expectation or is it based off are just really flawed views of how others are. It's based off of emotional hunger where it's almost impossible to have. Our emotional needs met by someone who's been traumatized themselves. So in basically coming up as a child if you have parents that have gone through trauma and haven't really healed their own stuff when they're interacting with you it's going to force you to a place where in order to get that emotional satisfaction that's where the creation of these idealized you call them almost like filters right for these filters these caricatures right these caricatures go up around everyone to prevent the possibility of real connection so instead of connection what we're left with is just isolation and a retreat into ourselves and once we get into ourselves like you were talking about last episode with the feedback loop we just get into this loop of constant projection onto everyone and everything and running from the fact that we need things emotionally or physically that were not getting from our environment and because in the prison of childhood or however you want to you know talk about it. It's impossible to have these things matt. Sometimes we tend to go through life thinking that it's always an impossibility rather than face the reality that oh it might be already there and we just don't see it or it might be one difficult conversation away from getting what we actually need okay. So it's like you're putting filters on the world around you anyway. It's almost like you're connecting with this fantasy that you created inside your head. Yes and that's to protect ourselves from the horror that as children we might not have been accepted we might have been rejected and we might have been forced to hide ourselves from the world to keep ourselves alive. So does this book focus a lot on childhood or does it also talk about what you might experience in adulthood that can also cause leaps from childhood? Pretty rapidly talks about the cases that Dr firestone encountered in his practice but then also when he would do these retreats with about like ninety five people or so where he would remove them from their environment and go on these retreats and on these retreats he would make sure that there were healthy boundaries but it was a very loving nurturing environment and on these retreats found that people would open up and become themselves and however when they would go back into their traditional environments. They would quickly kill this person that they were in favor of the fantasy bond and so he would follow these individuals over a period of many years. And it's quite. It's quite sad at points. Because many of these people would just continue to prefer the fantasy and the illusion to stepping outside of their comfort zone and exploring who they were more than a weekend. If we think about American culture and culture in the West this concept of like living for the weekend or only becoming ourselves when we're outside of our traditional environments. This is something that a lot of people do so I like to think of it a little bit like whenever you meet someone new how you can kind of just be anyone. Because they have no preconceived idea who you are a lot of cases and that's kind of how it sounds in every took them off to this island or wherever. He took them to just themselves. It's like you don't have anyone that you're trying to satisfy. I don't have any of these. Fake ideas you've already like these structures that you live within. Yeah I wonder and and just to kind of tie back into our current situation with everyone kind of locked away for covert. I wonder how much of our lives since they've been so thrown up in the air we're kind of facing some of these fantasy bonds like you used to not see. Be With your spouse every single day but now you're stuck with them all the time and maybe some of the things that you've been kind of putting away or you can ignore wherever you go to work are coming to the forefront a little bit faster than they would have before or maybe some negative things. Maybe it's more positive things that you just had forgotten that you loved about someone for sure. Yeah it's just interesting tying back into to where we are right now. How it has to be the case right and Especially with a Rupture of plane going on. So this is a concept that marquee eliade anthropologist and cultural historian used whenever. There's a rupture of plane where the reality or the fantasy bond is shattered. We get a glimpse at the real situation or how fragile life might be. Were forced to face the reality so I think all of us have been thrown into this and were getting a taste for these relationships that we that is objective right. It's no longer subjective because we're forced into close interaction and that type of close interaction is going to expose things for what they really are and can be great and this can be challenging but ultimately it's always an opportunity the concept of rupture of plane is something that is very positive from an anthropological standpoint because throughout history whenever individuals would experienced this rupture of playing they typically would be noticed by the elders of society and then they would be taken out of normal society and culture and they would begin their training for work as a healer or Shaman or medicine person and in today's world the acquitted of that I believe is our creatives. All creatives go through something quite similar and the creative now has challenged to face their reality and transmute the pain that they are inevitably going to encounter into art so that brings us to today's daily mission. Thank you for joining US Lacey. As always you're great super friend the half here along on the show and the fantasy bond is a great book. We're GONNA be diving into a lot of the details from it in our newsletter at mission dot org we publish it every single day. So if you like mission daily you'll want to subscribe at mission dot. Org where you can get our mission daily newsletter. You're going to get things that you don't get on the show in there and vice versa. So Lacey writing for the daily mission. Yeah bring it on. Today's Daily mission is to list out. Take a piece of paper on one side. Put the fantasy bond and on the other side on the right side. Put the reality and dare our listeners. Because this is a concept that can cause a rupture of plane sue. Pick out one relationship in your life that you suspect might be more of a fantasy bond than a reality bond and list out on the left side the characteristics of this relationship that you think are there and then just go a little bit deeper and on the right side put. Some open ended questions or put some maybe challenges to this fantasy just jot out. Some ideas doesn't have to be duff to write a book or anything like that but I just challenged everyone to start to examine their friendships and the relationships especially parental relationships with this filter and this daily mission I think I would add one layer to that and just once you have that right down maybe talked to someone else. Who's kind of outside so not the person that you might have written about but someone who has an outside perspective to kind of help you identify awesome idea but as a fantasy bond and what's the rebound that's their that's awesome idea and this is something that you want to. You like lacy mentioned triangulate with the help of an objective. Third Party Observer. Ideally a therapist professional because we are not. This is not medical advice. Be Super careful with this exercise and all daily missions especially burning sage especially from someone wearing headphones integral burning. Sage Marsili would be proud. I'm just right out there. All RIGHT EVERYBODY. Thanks for listening. Thanks for joining us. And everyone out there. We'll see an excellent.

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Changing lives with Days for Girls: Celeste Mergens (founder of Days for Girls) shares how we can help empower young girls globally to stay in school and find better futures

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42:18 min | 1 year ago

Changing lives with Days for Girls: Celeste Mergens (founder of Days for Girls) shares how we can help empower young girls globally to stay in school and find better futures

"The following podcast is a deer media production. This season of giving and doing a little more good around the world is upon us and this week. I'm bringing a guest on to tell you about one of my favorite favorite nonprofit organizations days for girls. Celeste mrgins founder and CEO of days for girls shares with me. Her incredibly powerful story of being led by the Lord to start an organization to help women and young girls in developing countries with reusable supplies for menstruation days for girls also teaches and educates people globally about their bodies how to stay safe and avoid human trafficking and become more empowered to stay in school be leaders in their careers and wait until their bodies are ready to bear. Children children the life changing impact. The days for girls is having around the world is absolutely astounding to me with one point. Five million women now empowered to take their days back monthly monthly when many of them used to have to stay home with no other solution during those five days of their cycle. They have a long way to go with fifty million women around the world suffering from lack of solution and education around this issue in this episode. We're going to talk about how you can get involved and help and even come to a service project with me next week if you're in the Salt Lake area and if if not you can go to the show notes to find out how you can help from anywhere one last thing. We are so so grateful to everyone who leaves raining review on Apple. PODCASTS and I loved this review view from Lacey Lacey Lacey this week entitled Coron as Israel as it gets she said Colonel Down to Earth and I love that you can see who she is what she cares about that is way more important and way deeper rather than just good deals. She's amazing so inspiring. Thanks so much lacey and one more thing to if you guys love this episode in our as inspired as Iowa's by Seles story I would love if you just share a screen shot to your stories and tag me so that I know you saw the episode and listen to it and shared it with your friends. Thanks so much and I hope you love it as much as I do Kate guys today. I have someone. I'm so thrilled to interview. Because I love her organization so much. I love what they stand for. Her name is Celeste mrgins organs and she is going to tell us all about days for girls Sosa last say hi. Hi and Celeste. Tell us a little little bit about who you are. What you're up to? And why days for girls is so important I get the wonderful opportunity to be the founder and CEO. Oh of days for Girls International. We give girls there days back by making sure. They have access to mental care products and women's health education so that they can know how their health works and how their bodies work and no longer be in shame or stigma size. Because of the feelings we have around the globe about station. That's amazing so tell me how you got involved in this. Where did this even begin? How did you get the idea to start? Days is for Gross. I technically didn't like to see that I'm the really good listener. Who pays attention shows up and keeps working because I can working in Kenya for several years and I would go every six months and I would work on sustainable solutions there for communities and I'd I had never thought to ask this even once and then one night? I was pleading for a way to feed a some children who were stuck in a really bad situation over there fire and I fell asleep still asking. I woke up at two thirty in the morning with the going through my head. Have you asked what the girls are doing for Feminine Hygiene Eighty and I literally went. He's I'd never asked. And and it's significant to me in our family we called MINNASO- care products. TURBOS TURBOS as in honey. If you're up to storage some turbos or husband is a raven wonderful man. So he was always willing and and it wasn't isn't have you asked with girls doing for turbos it wasn't it wasn't what are they doing. It was have you asked. And and the answer or as nuts in a way in their room on a piece of card or urge for days. My Gosh wow so how did you guys start start doing something about that. How did where did the beginning start? What did that look like? So my first idea was disposable pads single use pads ads. Because you know that's what I was familiar with but I knew if I sent money for disposable pad innate. Couldn't they needed food. They'd use that money for food and rightly so right so we needed something account on month. After month in their first washable pad we made was really really awful design. I could say that because I designed them and the we're it looks like a bad. They were white and those bad ideas. If you have stigma about this and so he listened the first five hundred girls that we brought them for were so so grateful as they almost most always are and these girls right afterwards said. Thank you so much because before you came. We had to let them use us if we he wanted to leave the room and go to class. I'm hoping that didn't mean what I thought it meant. I had to wait for two hundred fifty more girls to come through before it could confirm and they told me they were being sexually exploited in exchange for a single disposable pad and that was that was is the moment days for girls was born. Wow so how long ago was that. The guy started this. That was eleven years ago November. First while that's awesome and I know that you guys are as you said before an international company. I found out about days for girls when I was on trip with Doe Tara we still are a little bit involved with doe. Tara are not as heavily as we used to be but I love that day. Introduced me to you guys as someone that they had vetted and really felt like you were doing very very worthwhile work all over the world so that too yeah. They're so awesome and I got to just listen to a little bit of the education. I love that you guys. It's not just a handout. You don't just hand. Supplies is to these younger girls but you also educate them so talk to me about what that process looks like. Oh it's so amazing you know girls before we can hon for use cloth in corn according five feathers and all sorts of things to try to make do. And so you'd think that was it is part of this and yet the education is just as important and just an hour and a half they covered not only what period is so. They're not afraid it also how babies happened. How their body changes what you expect and touch on things like you know? It's they wait until after their eighteen. There'll be more likely to have healthy baby the in healthy mom and if and they talk about self defense and human trafficking and what's not look out for and in just an hour hour and a half they have so much knowledge for themselves and their families and their community and leave with so much Crompton's it's phenomenal to me that something so simple could have such far reaching impact for good and in a truly does not education is a huge party. Yeah so what ages are you. Educating these girls traditionally about age eight and ended up okay. Here's where all girls right. No matter what I am in I have white hair now women of all ages and also blaze. We have amendment note program because stigma. It hasn't really changed until all of us have access to the education. So there's a program called Mendocino for boys and men and then the ambassador women's Health Bertram or at the very cool. I didn't know that you guys had a men's program too but going back to that age. That's crazy to me. I have a seven year old. She just turned seven. But it's hard for me to even imagine like I mean we've had some discussions with her about some of these things but hard for me to picture her as a child like having to worry about something like that you know just a basic need that. She's never going to have to worry about in our home but if she were to be born in another country in another family. It's very likely so. What does this look like? Statistically as far as how many girls or women in the world are affected by not having access access to the supplies that would allow them to function during that time of the month so we know that there are probably five hundred million women of menstruating eighty eight try and we're estimating about fifty million of them need our help very much others Even here in the United States where his homeless woman. You're incarcerated woman and it's a lot of women that need us we've reached one point five million women in in girls where we have a way to go. Yeah while one point five out of fifty. That's a lot a lot of ground still to cover. So what's the best way that people. Well who just hear about this. How do you get people involved? Like what do they do. What if some if someone hears this and they're like that sounds like a great organization? How do you get people in communities involved because I know you guys are a really good at that within communities in the United States of people who find out about this and they care and they want to help? That's another beautiful part of what we get to do together in other so many ways to be part of it and when you hear about this is not only for me shocking. I started but also such good news. If there's something you can do about it immediately though you can join a chapter a team that are Holland cheering to do this there on our website you have about a thousand of them in seventeen nations on five continents. You also have the option of US sharing about this on your social media following us and signing up for butter in hearing the latest you can find out if your work has a matching donation program or do fundraiser for us. He you know he's could include anything from birthdays to special tea party to anything you would like to do is share one of our films which are beautiful. Oh on several demo. award-winning by phenomenal. People shared their talents with us. And you get the opportunity to to also advocate. Many states have taxes on mental care products. and that's so silly because they don't have it on Viagra and they don't have it on Arcade Games but they in something so important. That is already very expensive and so a lot of our teams and and volunteers and individuals. regionals are doing what they can advocate at that changes and there's just a lot of ways to be part of this. What I love about that is that there are so many things that are hard to change in this world? But he doesn't one of them and together we really can't see the end of inequity from this point of view. For this reason we really chancy a time. Where hopefully your daughter would go? No mom no one ever had to be scared that maybe they were dying or how to disease. They knew from very early. And you'll say no once tied beautiful. Were afraid to talk about this. I hope to it's that way but it is really sad to think about so. I WanNa talk about some of these tactical things that I understand. Now because has I've had exposure to days for girls for a while but one thing that I learned when I discovered your organization. was that kind of the ratification. So what does that look like for a girl who doesn't doesn't have access to metro products. Like I know that one of the biggest things is school right so if they start getting their period than typically they have to drop out of school. Is that right. It can be that I can tell you that I have a friend named Ellis who lives in Kenya and the day day that she had her first period. She is at school and she was slapped by her teacher because she was asked to come to the board. She didn't have anything to do a she didn't know what was happening. She was ashamed to get up. She was Hannah King and he thought she was trying to ignore his request and she was very good sense student he could usually count on and so he slept her and then when he saw what it was they the classroom Moctar and she was a brave one that felt like the risk of being mocked which happened again and again was less risk that having to drop out of school so she braved it but others aren't willing to be shamed again and again and and others culturally returns example in Nepal. In the western part you're untouchable when you're men straighten so you're not even allowed to be in your home or in the pathway to the home mm-hmm let alone in the classroom. So m places like that. You're you're not just missing vital school days where you finally just give up because you just just can't keep up and that's what results in dropping out. You're also considered so untouchable the even touched the plate. Your Family Li CBS with breadcrumbs and pushes to you. You have to wait till they let go so that you can pull it to you because if you touch the plate at the same time they may get sick act or have ill fortune. And they're so willing to protect their family that they will brave in exposure of cold of Nepal to be away from them to protect them is really phenomenal. But sometimes it's just they're uncomfortable worrying that fell L. Stains so they will only stand up. They can't sit down. They don't WanNa be with people out of fear that you will embarrass themselves and others and so sometimes it's lack of in confidence. Sometimes it's lack of access to education or they give up it sometimes if complete isolation and for some it's just discomfort because they don't have something that will keep them healthy and go. It's many different things and it all comes down to inability to talk about this and lacking the resources to get something. I can count on month after month and I heard wants to. Someone said at Adi's for girls thinking that that sometimes this means the girl is also missing meals right because the meals are happening at school for sure. No this is absolutely absolutely true and even like I shared with you for Oh that they are just give bread crumbs once woman. There said you know we were talking about what that's is like as they discussed whether this was a practice they to shift in a new way and she said for five days insects. Bite us for five days. We are alone for five days we eat the crumbs from our families tables and for five days. no-one cares. Wow that's heartbreaking so if someone in Nepal gets a hold of a days for girls packet and how was that life changing I mean are they then accepted into society. Siamese it's something where they can kind of control that situation and then it changes things for them. That's one of the best parts of this. That once trading trading has happened in the education the phenomenal women of days for Girls Nepal. Who when donors fight Tara? Make it possible to purchase these kits to get the women way way at the last mile. They're able to take them to them and in their language and from there people speak of you know what this really is and we meet I with the leaders in the community and get their buy in for this and instead of making them wrong we get to say what if you captured after a tradition but you simply ritually cleanse this kit instead of isolating her. Then you will be doing things against the law. It wouldn't affect you. It would be you making a new decision. Would that work. And they agree and say it is time for this to change and so so. The entire community is receiving the education learning that it's not a curse that without periods or dino people and very he is you have this experience where they make a new decision. And that's how it's happening in Sodas. Kit gives them a chance to practice it and tell their Grandmothers and mothers. I'm I'm doing this. I'm going to school now but when I get back I will practice trump again and and to be in their room safe instead of Out in exposure and all over the world that education and legislation together so powerful. If it's cold where you you are just like it has been in the mornings here or in the evenings and you're looking for a really delicious hot cocoa to drink but you don't want all the extra sugar and all the extra calories stories you have got to check out my most recent favorites forcing matic. I can't stop drinking their hot cocoa. It's so yummy. It does not taste like mushrooms. Even I know it's called Mushroom Cacao. Mix I promise. There's no trace of mushroom taste but you do get the really cool benefit of having lion's mane in this hot cocoa which is a functional optional mushroom and it's been used by Buddhist monks to focus on meditation for years and years. And if you notice like everywhere you look. 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HE ICY dot com slash meant Arrow to get fifteen percent off your first order I want to talk about. This is another thing that I learned when is exposed to days for girls that I thought of to. Why can't we just temples? Aren't that expensive like you can buy cheap tampons. But that doesn't work for a lot of women right around the world. So can you talk a little bit about why. That's actually not a great solution for a lot of people so there's a really great question. There are of course tampons and menstrual against or cuts which lasts up to ten years but a lot of cultures have cultural religious or personal aversion to certain things. So there's that whole thing and then impact ads heads are about. You know you can get ones that. Aren't that terrific. that their dollar for a pack and shots at least as much the days income for family so imagine you have several daughters or even just one and you're trying to keep things afloat this. This is a deal killer for many of them. They just can't afford it any family that is choosing between a food and hygiene. They're going to like we. We talked about that. I will but the other thing is that there's no place to dispose of them. Know for instance with the refugees days for girls. Volunteers have just rallied to an in an impossibly difficult and and transformative act. You have done re sporty five thousand refugees and by different locations around the world in just a few months and it took Croatia efforts and they were able to do that with delivering partner World Vision but their efforts made all of these kits. And what's amazing about refuge. Cheese is for some of them. There is such strong belief that you are really supposed to take care of your hygiene. Needs yourself with the care that it is ungodly to and disrespectful. In a way that we can't quite imagine to just dispose of this this disposable pad by throwing it outside so it's not just a Barad scene is deeply shameful and so those thankfully some organizations organizations are now delivering some single use pads. These single use pads are not only unreliable to receive that also creating creating a problem culturally. That's very difficult to overcome and all over the world. This is an issue so not only lack of ability to pay not only the fact that they don't always work and be big comfortable and and lacked regulation. I tickles sometimes issues. With that as well but it also disposal issue so on so many levels not really very often the best solution so tell me what the days as for Girls Solution looks like this will be tricky doing it verbally. So so as for girls. Kit was designed with through twenty. Twenty nine integrations. Wow We got twenty nine times. He got fail forward. We learn by listening to them that this had needed to wash with very little water needed to dry quickly needed to be able to not look like a pad. So how do you not like I had. The answer is that we made something. We Call Shield which protects their clothing. This almost looks like a bad with wings. kind of like an ally dated X. Excuse Moreno's and then the wings snap around their underclothing and have a moisture barrier on the inside and pockets on the end to hold the liners which are absorbent. These soft absorbent liners look like a handkerchief their square and they fold old so that when you fold them in three you get six layers of double absorbency. The metal bed only three in the ends. You can stack one or two or three you to adjust to her slow needs and you can also make sure that when you're ready to wash them. They washed very easily and they dry as one flat wider surface. So they dry quickly they can get for a supreme kit. They get eight liners they get the two of these shields. They get two pair of underwear. They get rinsed fag or transport bag to put their things into and then all of this. This goes with the barbs soaked a wash cloth and a menstrual care chart as well as a a All in a drawstring bag so she it's a colorful backpack that she chariot back and forth to school and interestingly they usually carry them back and forth everyday. Wow well that that makes sense because then it doesn't really draw attention to go. What's that thing that you have once a month or whatever? It's kind of just their their bag that they always have and I love that. You said you've listened into them and they really were the direction for the changes that you needed to make. So that's really really neat. And how many countries are you is in right now hundred forty one nations on six continents. Wow but really so-called does this just surpass her while streams or did you hope to just go as far and wide as possible from the very beginning you know I would say at the very beginning. I didn't realize any place outside the worship Chavis honestly. It stunned me enough enough that they had it there and what happened is when I got home. People kept saying that campaign real in two thousand and eight people go without cardboard and and then and I'd say we'll ask people you know and then so they go to their friend that has the project an NBA and then that person and then come back and say they need it to. How do we do this? And by word of mouth more and more people started asking and showing up and financial effort because the days for girls. Kit is an easy easy to make it. Isn't it takes three hours up to three hours to make this whole thing in a labor of love and they goodness they're proving it lasts two two to five years so It's wonderful but I never very early on. We are talking about what our final outcome should be in the strategic planning and I said well I think it should be. Every girl everywhere. Hadn't thought of period. Our tagline is every girl everywhere period and she said that's not a measurable outcome and but in truth it occurred to me that all we really needed was education that worked for them and was appropriate our education as been vetted by professionals informed by those we serve of more than seventy adjustments to make sure it suited their needs needs. And then you know how much the pad system has been through an impact. There's a patent on it and so I would say really. All this is is knowledge and resources at work and then scale that so today that scale are inventor prices that are out there women like our. This women like Maya in Nepal. Women like Carryanne in the Philippines who make days for girls gets where they are and women there are given work doing this and then NGOs and individuals buy them from them and then they just keep doing. That's really cool. Aw really just so amazing to see how many people you've been able to effect. I want to jump back to something you mentioned at the very beginning of the interview. You said that sometimes sometimes women that are incarcerated have issues with being able to have access to supplies. I didn't realize that that was something is are you talking about people in the US. Yes yes all over the world all over the world. This is an issue kind of last week and here they're given limited supplies and most places in New York City. They were explaining that the girls and women incarcerated there. They have to ask for the pet so they may have a male L. guard nabbed states. WHO's making I have another please? Which is so humiliating and totally? But it's also limited access at all so one woman told told me just a couple of weeks ago that she had to ask her grandmother to send money so she could buy them is. You just didn't have which she needed her pets and and that's how she got through so if you don't have a grandmother fund for you right wow so I mean I would imagine that they you probably have limited access to communication or two telling someone I need help. How do you find women who are incarcerated? Who need that help people like you help us get the word out and then people reach out to us who know of a prison that has is need Noah someone has his need and it's really bad that allows us to reach chm more we do have individuals who are part of chapters and teams while also re chop directly and say? Is there any help we can give here in Washington state where I live We have one prison groups that SOS days for girls kits and they make sure people have access to but they also send them away to others. Here's which is so restorative to be able to give in that way we also have a men sewing group here in Washington who's so days curls kits as part of their sewing group and little. It really is. It's it's wonderful to see the full circle of benefits not only to those those were able to reach and connect with but also to those doing this how it helps those who have depression and helps those who have different kinds ends of challenges. Know that there's something that can do. Yeah and that it's just helping change. I would imagine to once you change one girl and her life life than it's probably just going to trickle down effect and affect all kinds of generations after that to you know because that girl can say to her children. There's a better way to do this than the way I did it before I knew in the way my mom and my grandma and so many other women did it before you know. You're so right now I mean this is this. This is an old problem. If you're a bible reader like I am there's you know there's a story in the Bible about the woman with issue of blood that's and that's what we're talking about are here right that she felt unclean and anyway the story. I mean this is a long long time coming to find a solution for that. Will change changed the lives for so many women so I just think what you guys do is so beautiful so amazing. What's your short term goal? What do you hope to achieve like in the next year or or something that you're looking forward to that you can share with us? We're right now working with a lot of governments who are making washable standard. So this means that they can set a standard. They have to work this well. They have to be this clean and we are one of just two that have passed the first one outside the US and UK in such an based in Uganda one of two groups that have passed the standard and now Kenya is looking at a standard South Africa's looking at his standard hoping that Nepal can start looking at a standard. What this means is that some government can start choosing wash avant instead of single use pads? When they're trying to fund initiatives that they can join in the power of reaching more more girls and women in their communities unity's and this is really important part of what I see next? In addition to her seen another wonderful development the government rid of both the Ministry of Education and Ministry of Health are right now working to incorporate days for girls curriculum into their national health curriculum. Wow that's so cool. What's great about that is more and more? A governments are starting to talk talk about this as truly important to add in now many of them have things which unique about days for girls curriculum. It's very interactive is. It's very much of `bout the joy of talking about this and how amazing their bodies are and there's no barriers of saying something that would make take them feel like they can talk about this so teachers that have been uncomfortable to take this and said. I'm sorry I just can't do it. Our goal is to help them be able to show. Oh comfortable and even want to talk about this so our pilot is in December for Cambodia. And we have several other governments waiting eighty nine watching to see how that goes so truly exciting. And when I say those are the big developments right now That's so cool and it is very interesting. How in some of these developing countries a lot of these governments or leaders will kind of sit back and watch what happens with other people and then if they like how something happens though pattern that after you know the success of others so it really can just be such a a far reaching in fact when things go well on when change happens in a positive way? I'm just so impressed with Cambodian Cambodia's leaders and their desire to make sure that happens in just really impressed by their leaders and the desire to step up in a bigger way before. Even tragedies have been about six weeks ago. I got a call from Anita in Bombay. Kenya and she said slapstick just returned from a school and I was excited. Because she doesn't usually call me and says uh-huh oh this is going to be good news. She said I've been called in and there. There is a young girl who who has just died. I said really happened. And she said that she had been shamed by her teacher and called dirty and class when she very similar to Allah's who wouldn't stand and and she ran home and her mother said here take. This water can in a row to lower it into the river. I have to go take your sister. Just get yourself cleanup matches skoll. Aw and Jack Lean was found hanging with the very rope she was supposed to go get water with and that unity. That husband wanted to talk about. This was so grieved and so angry that they have truly rallied to start talking about Anita Ambassador of women's health. They're in that county. That has an enterprise. There was able to immediately respond and comfort them and tell them that we can not everybody about this and they started a campaign called the red line campaign that were drawing a red line. No Morelos days. No Omar lost dignity. No Morelos lights because of something so connected to us all that day I was just so grateful there Was Anita right there to go to them. I'm am so grateful that we were all standing together so that this is something that can and an that there is is hope that this doesn't have to happen anymore. And I'm so grateful that I was asking for an answer for how to be people and along without Ed searching a question have you asked and truly honored to be part of this movement that I never ever ever would have dreamt dubbed or or imagine would be part of my life and the pupil. I've met an things I've been privileged couplets to be part of our just phenomenal. It just amazes me. What happens when you're willing to say chuck me like you are in? I'll do do it. Thank you for sharing. That and I agree with you. It really is so incredible when you you know ask and are willing and to be led to those things that that matter most you know so. I'm so grateful to that you were willing to do that. and to be brave into walk into you know kind the unknown territory and do things that nobody else had done before and for how many lives this is changing. It's just really it's remarkable and it's something that I'm just so so anxious to be more involved in with more. Let's talk about that now about how we're gonNA do something together. Really cool in on Tuesday. The Twenty Six in Utah. We're partnering with P. M. D. Who I've worked with for several years. They are a global beauty company and their motto is a brilliant confidence so they really we care about women feeling confident about themselves confident about their skin which swayed have all the skin care products and I really believe that skin care is something that you know really really if you have skin you'll confident and that's it's kind of like it's the first thing people see. It's something that I feel like. You know. A lot of people struggle with and once they can Overcome that they can really just feel so much more confident and so they were very much aligned. When I told them about days for girls and the mission that you guys have so? Aw what we're going to do is we're going to bring together women. I told my audience about this. Bring your sisters bring your friends bring your mom bring your mother-in-law bring your daughter's anyone eight and above and you know come just have this night of service and we're walking into the best time of year. I felt like when people's hearts are more open to giving into doing doing things that are meaningful into providing meaningful service for others. And so. I'm just so excited. This is going to be such a great event to be able to give people an actual real way way to use their hands. Use their voices us. Even if they have a hundred people on social media that follow them to hopefully have a little bit of a ripple effect until this story and talk about days for girls or tag you guys and get a little bit more awareness out there and then also use an hour and a half of their time and everyone's it's time is so precious it's like the most precious thing you can ask. People to give up is their time but give up an hour and a half of their time on Tuesday evening to come. How put some kids together? So I'm really really excited about it and excited that we have this opportunity to get together and hopefully just began doing doing some a whole lot of good stab your list. Oh tell them love me thank you I well. I'm really really excited about it. I WANNA WANNA ask you. If there's like 'cause I feel like people resonates solo stories. Is Their story that you could tell me of a girl who you saw a a change changed like a transformation once. She had this in her life one of my favorites. We are in Zimbabwe. It had been a really rush road to get there too far longer than we thought we were going to instruct. Two hundred girls how to make their own. We were out of time because of how long it took to get there. We are only able to train seventy five and now. They're all peeking in the windows and doors watching one's in there going deep me. And that's so heartbreaking so we left the fabric as token that we will return here it is a more return to help you and then when they got back four months later they were told the fabric was gone and they said where they set bal. Someone made them into these kids for everyone. And it's like who could do that. This isn't easy right and yeah. They directed the volunteers were there to twelve year old goto. She's standing there in her pink striped shirt and when they asked you know how did you do that. How did you remember? And how do you feel. She said I am no longer an orphan. I am a leader of women. That's the the power of patchiness on and giving people they're days back as well as their voice and confidence twelve years old. Did I hear about right. Twelve I mean what a way to start a leadership for someone who probably is going to do some really cool things in her life but what a cool story the amazing yeah. I'm blown away by that. That's so cool. I have one last question that I always like to ask people and this is the question I have for you. If there's one wind message that you want people to remember from this interview what do you want that one message to be. If we trust the Lord let our lives in his hands the places as we go are far more than we could ever dream the very experiences we have throughout our lives for Paris for things. We can't even imagine yet the hardships the joys all of it can be transformed too far greater things if for willing and if we trust and if we ask not so much and I'm just crying because I deal about two I believe with the you know all of my heart in in my bones. I really believe that too. So strongly that the Lord will lead you into paths much better than what you would have thought up on your own so so thank you so much less for sharing all these just really inspiring stories with us and the the really important mission of days for girls and on. I'm so excited to be able to personally hands on in a meaningful way help and bring a bunch of women together to help with this and anyone's listening and you want to buy a ticket. It's I think just ten dollars per ticket if anyone wants to buy a ticket and one hundred percent of the proceeds will go to days for girls which is so cool cool so we're going to raise some money and do some good all at once. 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Season 10 Episode 10: Love is Blind Part 2

Dateable Podcast

1:17:21 hr | 6 months ago

Season 10 Episode 10: Love is Blind Part 2

"The Dateable podcast is an insider's look into modern dating that the Huffington post calls one of the top ten podcast about love and sex. On each episode, we'll talk to real daters about. From sex parties to sex droughts, date fails a diaper fetishes and first moves to first loves. I'm your host Yue Xu, former dating coach turned dating sociologists. You also hear from my co host and producer Julie Krafchick as we explored this crazy dateable world. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of dateable. Show all about modern dating. And now it's all about modern dating in this time of social distancing. Hi Julie Hi where Social Distance Right now? We are such good kids aren't we? We have not seen each other. We have seen a lot of each other over video chat. Yep I feel like that's life now I feel like I'm just you know what somehow I feel like. My days are actually pretty packed. I'm like why do I not have more time to be doing stuff and I'm like to some constantly on video chats. Our phone calls is it is so exhausting. It's really wonderful because I feel like a lot of people have wanted to like reconnect. Yeah like some of my friends from college. I've put together like kind of like a weekly Zoom happy hour which is nice but it's I find it a little hard when there's like eight plus people on there. I don't know if you've experienced that. No I think that's the most annoying thing. I won't join a zoom thing for any anything over four people 'cause yes becomes this like Ping Ping Pong back and forth of this person saying something and someone has a child in the background running around and unlike I have no idea what's going on it gets really like talking over each other. You're like wait what did you say? Oh my connections out. Yeah but the sentiment is there which I appreciate and that's why I am like I want to go because of that but I think that the I agree. The best ones are like four to five people. Yeah it has to be some sort of structure. I hate to say that for a friends gathering but I feel like there needs to be like a focal topic or something like this week. We're going to talk about what we may for dinner or something because otherwise it's just all over the board you know what the one that you and I did with two of our friends. That was really fun. Yeah because I think you actually had to leave a little early on that one. But we felt really structured even when you were there. It wasn't like structured like let's organize but it was like more topical. We were just like in a discussion more than after you laugh. We played this Super Fun game because we didn't know each other As much in our like twenties in early thirties so it was like. Let's throw out a random age and tell us about like who is kind of like a prominent person of your love life in then like where were you at that stage of life? Let's game because it helps you get to know each other. But also it's a great bonding experience to. That's a great prompt. I think zoo. He's come out with some prompts video chats otherwise it's just a lot of Hay bumble they need like the pickup tumbles. Proms and news. That did you see hinge introduced. A video thing now did notice that they have something that you can like. Basically say when you're ready to date from home yes. It's like a prompt in okay. So maybe prompt video. I haven't tried it myself but I've I've seen the prompt and if you say yes then you're able to connect but if one person says yes me other ones know that you don't you don't that's amazing and I love that too great. I mean they really moved fast on that yeah awfully just a shutout to their. This is my like inner design Geek coming out but I just love their logo. They made of like the H. And the I separated from far that's Great Rally. Classic hinges on it not sponsored be clear but we sponsored. We are sponsor this episode is absolutely sponsored. And I think we should talk about them now. 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Store please store and for listeners of dateable you can also get five dollars when you use the offer code dateable that's Dat AB L. E. Can visit empower dot me slash dateable for more details. I love a free money. Yes thanks Julie. But something else. That's probably on your mind is how do. I kill all this free time that I have now and this episode is also brought to you by best fiends. So talk about serendipity. I remember I was searching for the best mobile games to play during this time of social distancing and this game best fiend kept popping up on the best of lists and soon after they expressed interest in supporting dateable. So yes this game. It's free to download and I'm absolutely unhappily obsessed with it. The game basically takes you through series of challenging puzzles. That are fun but also engage your brain which is good. I like that as a casual game. Because I'm not a Gamer. 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Last week was Ryan was about to make a decision on. Who of the three? He wanted to meet up in person for a date. Yeah we didn't make him propose like love the supply. I think it's been really fascinating to hear. The differences of our experiment versus the love is blind one because obviously love is blind is fourteen and ours is a real world experience. Lamar yeah really excited to hear what actually came from it and what we did was in the last week we've been pulling on all of our social media channels who you think. Ryan will pick for a day to end. There was one clear winner and it was jailer. Hands Down Taylor. I think she got ninety. Eight percent of the votes. Oh Yeah and a lot of we got a lot of feedback saying Taylor. The best fit because it seemed like they had a deep connection and also seemed like they really enjoy each other's company seem that there was death to their connection and also he kept saying she seemed very attractive so so it seemed like all the arrows are pointing to Taylor and she also shared the sentiments to. I felt like of all the three. She seem the most excited to meet him. Like four their connection. But you know anything's on the table so I guess we'll find out right. She we hear from Ryan. Who did he pick leads? Do it Right Ryan. Your Turn Ryan. We've talked to all the women now. Very interesting impressions of just both ways of their impressions. View your precious of them but at the end of it all it's really about. Who did you feel the most connection with that? You want to meet in real life so I thought about this. A lot and I think it was a very different connections. But at this stage very similar level Lacey Lacey. Really why tell more so? I think the real difference. There's that I date within my social circles. Very reluctantly casualty. If I'm like head over heels for somebody I will totally go for them in my social circle right but if I am like undecided you know. I am very reluctant. Very cautious. They're both of the other girls are connected to you guys so that puts them in my extended social circle. That makes me a little more conservative. They're more reluctant. Deciding factor for me interesting. I had to dig deep to figure out how good differentiate there if there was no connection. Would your decision change? Possibly it'd be a coin flip. They're all really great girls. I really enjoyed talking to all of them. We didn't have enough time to like find that one thing that was. Kinda like the soul connection or something like that we after ninety minutes I guess probably maybe one hundred fifteen minutes talked a little bit later. Let's just wasn't enough to Differentiate Oh yeah. Here's my heart is you know. I think if one of them were jerk or we had had a bad interaction or something. I think that would have totally changed things right. I feel like we both had our money on Taylor. I figured that I figured that you know when I thought about Lacey. The one where some are just fine right and I think that it will be a really easy going like we'll go out. Why would drink while some laughs? You know and it'll be really pleasant experience and that's great for first interaction so that's very low risk like we a high return. They're just thinking about it lately. I think the interactions with neither would be positive. You know I think for Taylor. Her time is something that is also part of my calculation. You know I think he's a different place. I think. That's you know I should be very thoughtful about that. A different place. How I think that for me. This interaction can be anything more on that level as I interaction coming off of. What the the amount of interaction. I've had with them right. I'm looking for something very low risk right and I think for Taylor her time. It's probably a little bit more valuable right Given what I think. She's at the dating game and I think that she might be less interested in having sort of less engage interaction and for me like I. I'm near the game and so like I am still. I'm really focused. And you know I don't want to waste anyone's time since again like these are three. Really Great Women Great Times talking to but I'm not you know heart struck over any of them yet. You mentioned that you thought lacy was at a different stage of life than you a little in that you know in Taylor were maybe more compatible. Just curious why you're going that direction over the person that you thought you might have had that more compatible lifestyle well you. I think that's important. Life stage is you guys have to want the same things right but at the same time. I think wanting the same things and fit are very different teams. There are a lot of people you know in my life stager who want to sing things as me. The toll even be a fit for a number of reasons. Right solidified different things. Let's not confuse them and Someone could be in a totally different life stage. But if it's the right fit you guys will align so. I don't know I don't like to over overly wait that so I look at that more so than I look at whether you know whatever stage persons in I'm more like do I say it with them and like I said I fit between Lacey and in Taylor I think both a great fit so becomes other factors right now. Probably think of. It's a really weird way so very interesting thought. Yeah Yeah. I know I'm a Weirdo. So it's still very vulnerable sharing this internal talk. Hey your truth is our non judging. We just want to know you better get to know your phone process. Well would you like to call Lacey herself? Put Her on speakerphone and ask her out. Hey Lacey how you live is Ryan. How's that how is the scheme? Yeah Yeah are you back. You still out there. I got back yesterday coming in back. Okay that sucks. Well that sucks but hopefully I have some good news. I'd really like to take you on a day. Get to know you better. Yeah Yeah you WanNa do it cool? Coca-cola by the way we have you here on dateable ask you out so this is hopefully. This isn't too much surprise. I hope they like prepped. You for that. We're GONNA be like all over the airwaves. Yeah things have famous beginnings so here we go tight tight tight so we go on with our conversation here or should we do that. Someone else take over here. Okay Awesome Lacey. I will call you back some more later and we'll figure it out from there later. We got very exciting. I cannot wait to hear about your date. I'm excited okay. Go make some plans okay. Cool beans Gary can't wait by by okay. You were right Julie. He picked Lacy Nice job. I was really rooting for fewer. But I can totally see why he picked Lisi. I was secretly riddick for Taylor to the deep connection. But I don't really reading for Rachel last year. That's you're going in you and I both thought it was going to be lazy. We Watch about that for whatever looks and personality alone. Yes but they ironically didn't see looks but the personality I guess should end up shining through So Ryan Pick Lacey and they did end up going on a date. Six feet away six feet away. Despite giving them the advice of not meeting in person they still decided to meet Iral and they met at a park but we we told them not to and they did it so we did our part Julie. I don't feel as bad in defense to them. This was recorded probably like a month ago. It wasn't as bad as it is now. But it wasn't a lockdown. Yeah yes it was. Like on the cusp of the law. It was like the day before they like just got in but I agree. We were like do zoom day like that's totally cool and they were like whoa person so you know they did go to a public place so that at least was positive but I agree. We needed our part okay. We don't condone this kind of behavior. But these two kids they just had to meet in real life and this is what Lacey had to say about the date. Lacey Lacey Lacey. Yeah Wow when we first set you up on a date with Ryan. We did not expect this cove in nineteen pandemic to happen. But how timely is that chiming? I can't believe it's been a week since we've talked to you. It feels like a year has gone by this much last week. Does it really does well? Let's start with that phone. Call From Ryan. I 'cause we were Julia and I were both on the call as well when he asks you out. What were some thoughts that were going through your mind So I actually didn't realize it was him at first that it had the number store and they didn't recognize it because I was on my car so given my car play side new idea that it was that call coming in I. Should I just talk to you guys not too long for you told me to haul? Chesilhurst became a little sooner than expected so it was kind of caught me off. Guard says going to pick up my dog from doggy daycare. Like hopefully the audio is good. We've actually might. I thought which is bizarre but I was. I'm surprised honestly. I didn't expect to be the one that he chose. I guess so it was. It was exciting and I knew you guys were listening though so I was like yeah. Let's do it. Why did she think that you weren't GonNa be the one that was just? I don't know you just never know what to expect from these things you know like. There's so much you know you don't know who the other people are wealthy. He's talking to you. How feels about on abilities talking to? It's not like something that I was asking him. Throughout right we were just having normal conversation. So you're GONNA be the one by or the one and you to tell us about. The date actually met up in the era of Cova nineteen. I feel like this is like right before things got really guys like sit on like blankets like really far away from each other. How did this go down? We had strayed into cups. We've talked through it across the Yeah so had an interesting start date because I live right by the parts that we went to essentially the park is by backyard so and I have easy parking because I'm the residential part of it so I was like just park in front of my house. You can find parking since there is no parking facilities leaving your house right now. So it's taken so right. I was just like your mouse and I thought he would just text me and let me know when he was here. Outgoing meet him actually came to like knock on the door so I was kind of caught off guard by that. I opened the door and my puppy ran out. Oh this voltage beside another dog like walking into my house and it literally took thirty minutes. Get my dog by God. I was like in a full bred trying to catch my dog from going into the road. Like I hide a riot and this is not even able to digest what he even looks like. You know I got. My dog is going to run to the road and he is like some fast and possible. We catch him so it's very interesting. Start to the day as that was quite the icebreaker after got over that what did you think of him like. I I know you told us what he thought he looks like. And if you remember really guzzler ro your mom about literally everything. Give us the play by play. What did I say I said? I thought he was like really tall. And like white or half Asian for whatever reason to not trust my gut be some people's way says really learning also you said he didn't seem like you'd be like that sporty athletic type either. Yeah and African American type. S that to me is basically right. I was like yeah like like black. Athletes essentially is what I said. And then what is he shows up at your first impressions so I mean. I was pleasantly surprised by that and he. He was very understanding kind about the dog situation. Though you never know how someone would react to that never situation that you would expect going on a blind date in your puppy trying to run away run but yeah he was very cool about it and then we got to the park and it was this conversation. It's always been easy to talk to him. There isn't Offered Bowman's or like what am I going to say next flows? Did you feel like it? Followed kind of the same cantor that you had on the phone or was it different in real life. I felt like it was pretty similar because we got to a point where it's very easy uncomfortable. Talk on the phone so I think it took a little bit to get back to that level of comfort rake usually reintroducing a new part of the person by and realize and. I think I was a little stressed out. From chasing way dog once the adrenaline subsided from that. And maybe the wine kitchen a little bit just like it was way win win. The wine come into play chugging it before the date no kidding popping running back over outlined pretty quickly So we were out to the park which took a break out and laid out the blanket and cracked open the Lions Talking Solutions Guys. Six feet apart definitely. I'm GONNA say yes sir. Not she's like yes mom. We were Isis. Wear a what did you physically. What were some of your first impressions of him. I mean I it was just like surprise Different expected Yeah I mean I thought he was good looking like there was like a level of attraction waivers and did you to communicate this to each other. What you thought you'd look like versus what you look like. You're in reality Yeah I actually brought it up in that like you look totally different than I expected. So then we got that conversation which was pretty funny. I think it's interesting too because you guys said like three calls like you said that you had fun on those calls but you were kind of like if it goes somewhere. Go somewhere doesn't doesn't I can take it or leave it. How did you feel after this date like? Did you guys have deeper conversations? What did you talk about? Yeah we definitely got to know each other a little better It was just kind of casual. Conversations can talking about like what we expected from experienced rate and just kind of like crazy was volleyball than we ever get how I came up but we surging competition of like telling two stories in like the most ridiculous story. Somehow one something but I forget what the prize was. Could we never really finished? We just kind of got into this whole like saga of telling you. It's ridiculous travel stories which is interesting because you learn a lot about a person their experiences where they've been just how they react to different situations and yeah it was just pretty much storytelling and just getting to know each other on a deeper level against that sounds fun. Who brought the wine? Heated ran the blanket to yes. Oh Okay so. He had this preplanned so throughout. How long did this date last for He came over. I guess at six or six thirty I think left it like nine or ten okay so good mount of time and did any feelings progress throughout the three or four hours. You're together if you need like feelings. Progress by Lake. Did I like fall for him more? I think it's more so it progressed. In the sense that we got to know each other more In Lake started to connect on a different level. Tang what is that different level Do you just get to know somebody at a less superficial level rate than just like what do you like to do on the weekends and that kind of stuff is kinda learn more about the person and then also when you see them talking percent their mannerisms and like what they get happy? React to things and it's different in person than than on so I feel like this date was like right on the cost of Shit really hitting the fan with garbage yet. I get a two part question. What have you seen him again? Or if not have you guys talked again like further after this. Yeah so we've been talking on the phone. I think once or twice and then like just like texting casually throughout the days would you be open to doing zoom dates with him or like. What is your thought? I'm open to it. Maybe more like facetime or something. They're gonNA facetime said you're open to having another virtual date with him once. The lockdown gets lifted. Are you interested in seeing him again in person every of into again? Is there a little hesitation in that or is it just more like you will see where things go? I guess I'm not getting a bigger picture of how you feel about right. Now I mean I like Ryan Am I like I think I said this on the on the first interview? Am I like head over heels getty for him no but do I like him in what I like to get to know him? More in in my opening man. Yeah did you like him more after seeing him. I think so. Yeah and this is also a two part question given the situation. Why did you guys kiss or two? Would you have kissed if covered? It was not happening. I mean this country. What's going to happen three if you don't WANNA get arrested? Just wink and let us know you kissed or not. I is that against the law right now. Actually think it might be a misdemeanor Yes we did that. Well left out the best detail the day I mean it was fine so it was definitely a different scenario than I woulda allowed to happen on the first date given the situation because it got really cold outside in the park and because I was like so hot from chasing my dog I didn't like ring a thick jacket so I got like real cold in then I live like right by the park may end up coming back to my house like watching a movie on the couch. Aw K. so that probably like send signals that I wouldn't want to send on the gopher state. Yeah but why? Did you feel comfortable to do that with Brian? I mean not that I should trust my guy after my talk. You look like it everything after the phone calls but I felt trust for him off the bat and if you did anything that I could just blast on the podcast trust back it as and he knows what's happening plus I live with three guys so anything to go wrong fucked basically so with this then after the kiss during the kiss any any vagina teen goals. I mean come on give it to us is well currently saying they probably gave off signals. That I would've went to stay. I think he was like a little presumptuous. In where I want to take it so I think it should just move a little faster than I would have wanted to on the first date Go beyond saying I didn't know it let it. I had it like he tried right. Got It okay. And what was his response to that? I mean he was like respectful about it right right last time. Portent of course. And how did the date end? We ordered Thai food's really hungry and he wanted to his car into clay carved till till like take before the typhoon. I guess he's like not some eats carbs alive art pill. I knew him on that. Give me five. I go take my car pill only seven taking Viagra. It wasn't bad. Yeah so we like food and the movie ended ended kind of just like naturally made sense simply with that. I don't know why this matters but what movie question and if actually very helpful I do it. I'm so bad at picking movies and like I could spend like the length movie China decide on what I wanNA watch so he was very good about making the decision to watch it. I appreciated that. Thank you like literally terrible for you to make this movie so much. Belinda watching uncut gems. Oh Yeah I watched that last night really strange movie really weird really weird. Maybe not the best I eight movie very unnerving and makes me anxious just thinking about it but okay interesting choice half a date. What were some of the things that you liked the most about Ryan? I think I like the ice ability to communicate and I think I said this from the beginning It's so easy to talk to him. And he makes eye contact when he talks to you listens and which is not very common nowadays or whatever reason communication can can be difficult when dating especially when the meeting somebody that you just net So I really appreciate you know his ability to communicate in how easy it is to talk to him and he's very well educated. Well traveled Which I appreciate and a person a lot so Yeah that was those. Were very positive. Thanks for me. Any red flags While I guess when it got really cold he had brought like an extra jacket and like gloves in a beanie firm solace in like I was shivering and he does like continue to like put it on which he asked me if I like if I was okay and it was like yeah. I'm fine 'cause I never believed women one so then I was like okay that I mean that is what it is Kind of replied. Yeah they are little signs. So I think it's like there's is a miscommunication. He was oblivious versus like. Is it a character thing and I think we'll tell right right away because I mean I probably gave off the idea that I was totally find because of pride I'm like. Yeah like he honestly we might talk to him and he might not even realize the bright shale probably. Yeah probably are at the other hand. I'm not saying Ryan. Which is people in general like it could indicate selfish traits war right right right but it's also like the whole like stereotype females. Because it's just like me making fun of myself but expecting if I say I'm not cooler I'm not hungry. But then like one ensued sued or yes. Oh Yeah and besides his looks. What was there anything else that you found really surprising about him after meeting him in person. I definitely think he's older than I thought What made you think that or did you guys talk about it? We kind of talked about it. He did tell me his age he would. It's only his real name or his age views. A real and I was like. I don't think we're supposed to talk. Generally no I think we can now. Well let's just stick with like Ryan Grim Okay. Lake circling me. Lucy and I'm like it's lacy give right well interesting after this music willing to be like. Hey this is so I am because I feel like to actually get a relationship out. The authorize probably going to be up front about an free show you again but if you WANNA contain any riots but again what was it about him. That made you think that he's a little older than you thought So when talking learning more ballots life and all that just like everything that he's done in all others no way that you saw that being like I don't know what I said like upper twenties or thirty right. So is that a plug for you or do you have any act. Let's actually better. I Jake is in their thirties. Like I feel like guys my age maturity level. Usually there What if I was in his late thirties early forties? How would you feel about that? I think that's really find like I've definitely dated guys like ten years older than me in. I have no issue with that. Like ages nauseous age just a number but it is and a lot of ways it depends on the person and how they act that. There's almost nice that you actually like didn't know going into it because you can judge age off of how they were coming across. I think you certainly he was really playful and on the off so there is something about being blind did not having that as a bias either. Yeah exactly I guess I'll just scale of one to ten. How would you rate the state taking out the circumstance of the actual dates Shannon? Yeah my current embarrassed So I wouldn't give it like a good seven point five. Okay good. Why seven point five So bad the out of ten. I think I still think of it like school like ABC. Like nine to ten is like an A. So I mean I think it was like a good day. It was averaged. It wasn't the best date I've ever been on. It wasn't a bad date by any means so is pretty standard for state with the next guy. I feel like that's kind of your general consensus about Ryan. Fine he's good. He's good conversation. I don't know I guess I'm still not syncing like a strong opinion from you either way. He's not blowing the dry and it takes me a while to like build a strong opinion. Like that about somebody. I like to have a lot of sacks before having opinion probably because a misjudge without facts as you learned so I don't know I am not like blown away right but I don't think that means that this can't grow into something going back to what I think it's in the last interview. I think real relationships you build from the ground up anytime that I've fallen head over heels for guy it's never worked out because it's because I created this persona that wasn't real around this send you know so I'm learning about him and the persona creating is more like factual based in fantasy based. Yeah got it on. Maybe Corona virus outbreak will make things a little slower. See guys can get all those fax SINC- Helen of all right. Yes definitely An interesting time to start something new but the last time you could see each other in person for a while while we're excited to hear where this goes. I mean it might be a check in a couple. That'd be next season when we check it with you guys who knows what the tie they would've liked but definitely excited to hear what happens. Yeah thank you Lacey or Lucy or whoever you want to be. At least he's strange. Thanks again by yeah. I still can't get a full read. I can't get a full read. I think it's like what we heard last time too. It's this I like him but I'm not like so excited either. That could be a good thing like she pointed out. Maybe that's fine right. It's easing into something but yeah I don't know yes. She also reminds me of the Times that went on really stellar dates. Where I really liked the guy but I didn't want to tell my friends about him yet. I didn't want to jinx. It could also be totally. Well be interesting to hear what he has to say. That's for sure. Yes without further. Do here's Ryan Ryan. We just talked to lay see. We got the dates. We have to hear your side of the story to how the date went all that. We want all the details. Let's first start with. What was the date? You guys have planned. Well how did you come about planning that kind of day? Meeting in time of Krona right there wasn't a lot to do. Replaces CLOSED JUST SO HAPPENS? The vegetables right by the park and said like a great place to do it. The Sun was setting round the time that we got connected so we figured what's raw blanket. Have a glass of wine and chat so you brought over a blanket and some why you went to the park. What happened how the moment you got there actually. there was a diversion because her dau- rooted right before we spent the first three minutes like chasing down. The dog was gone. Oh my God what fortunately lacy's in tremendous shape and she was able to chase the dog down because I was. I could hardly keep up Allie. I've tried to using my dog before. It's it's hard. Were you able to form an opinion of her or were. You dislike distracted by everything that was happening. You know I was just kind of going with the flow. I think already have a positive opinion of her from speaking with her on the phone. Ira came in with a positive mindset towards her. You know when the dog runs out like that. It's a lot but it was okay. It was interesting. You know session that way. I could see like which he really is. Good a shape as she passed along the way she was she was finally able to acquire the dog. And you were able to take a deep breath and take it all in tell us what were your first impressions of Lacy Honestly. She was a lot like I expected her to be really. I'll tell us more. Well remember she let on that. She was tall united's perhaps I thought she'd be low blonder than she actually was but I think it was actually the way she had her hair done. And she actually was about his blogs. I thought she'd be or she has what Allen. O clock dirty blond. I am not really a good person. Asked about the details of different hair colors. I barely see Red Blue Green. Okay Color Blind Ryan and We sit down and we just you know we just kept it. The banter going and Chitchat and each other. A bunch of really like interesting question. See who could outdo the other our storytelling. What were these questions may see? I asked her like What's your most dangerous travel story? Dangerous Travel Story. Wow Okay in a time of Corona virus health. All your story. What's the most memorable thing? Or what would you WANNA be most remembered for you board? That's a good one Just stuff like that near us. We kind of went back and forth. And we're any of her answer is memorable for you. Yeah actually She weighed rugby like a wedding gown. Came Internet me. My so I was. That was pretty interesting interesting. So as chief physically your type would think we attracted Yeah she's definitely attractive. Girl this type. I look at each person in their own category beauty. Does that make sense people? I have buddies who are specifically working for that five foot four Asian chick right like. That's their titans. Someone else looking for a tall blonde. Which Lacey happened to invest their type. So what else is looking for a black girl? The big booty invest their tight right right. You're like well you know. All those girls are pretty. I don't know do I get along with them or not right. And was there anything surprising about her for you other than her hair. Not Being as blunt as you thought it would be. You know it's always surprising when you get to match name to face. But what but what I think acidic so. I think that she was a little taller even though I knew that she was tall from our first conversation I imagined her smaller Mazur. Sue's probably a five three or something like that even though she saw first conversation right so she does boxing lifetimes girls do. Boxing are more interested in self defense and a taller girl is more thinking like. Oh well I maybe not saying. It's not every example. But she might say well. Boxing so masculine already tall. I don't need to do that or I don't WanNA come off one way right so because of things like dad noticing. She said I'd kind of imagined her as a smaller person policy five Ben. Are you still taller than her? Like how are you guys compare? Yeah no she's fine. I'm taller than she is by a comfortable margin or at least for me for her she probably she probably means like you know. This guy's a Munchkin you know I don't know I her brother's like six seven or something. Oh Wow so you to sit down at the park when you're not supposed to okay and you're definitely thought people could go to the park and definitely less than six feet apart. Perhaps I would do not take my measuring tape me. How was the conversation at the picnic in the park with everything everything slowed back and forth? Anything different from your phone calls. Joe was pretty much more of the same okay and then. Did you feel chemistry from these conversations? Chemistry the conversations were you know they were. They were fun. Know like I said Lacey was a lot of fun and you just continue to be. How would you rate the state overall While I've had a lot of interesting dates this will definitely definitely be like two thumbs up. Okay at scale one to ten. What would you say one to ten Probably about eight I. What makes it an eight over ten? Gosh you know I think like a ten is once every very rare occasion. You meet somebody you are just completely just blown away by crap. Something magical comes with that Obviously a one would be some of that. You know you you've bought gathered early because it's just painful like that I think in her case I really had a great time. United definitely would be open to meeting again so we heard from her that it got cold. You kind of took the date inside to her place. How are you feeling at that stage cold? It was cold. So we went in Alabama chitchatted. Watch a movie chitchatted and I got. There is a special night way way way. Okay backup that was like two seconds and we know. This date lasted more than two seconds. You're sitting on a blanket. You're drinking wine and gets cold. What is going through your mind at this point because what were your I know. We're GONNA say Ryan you'RE GONNA say. I had no expectations going to the state. But what were your expectations going into? This date broke. I expected to meet somebody who is totally fine and to have a great time. And that's exactly what happened. I mean she was as advertised advertise. I'm K. right and then so it gets a little bit cold. And who's the one to suggest to go inside? She did okay. And what did you think was going to happen indoors? Oh just probably just talk and drink in your place. She has a roommate get a chance to like rests with the dog so scratches at action. So what actually ended up happening in reality once he got in place. That's a pretty good fit for what happened. I mean I have no idea what she said so. I'm curious to know win. It got cold outside We were told that you were quite prepared for the colds. You had gloves and a hat and jacket. And she didn't have much on her. Did you notice that at all? The park is like literally in her backyard. So you know for me I understand. How Cold San Francisco can be? If I'M GONNA spend any time outside drew about five o'clock so I was prepared for that which he chooses to wear I. I am not someone who is into telling girls wear by. Did you notice that? She was cold or was she not cold. Would actually I did ask her? When I sat down and she said that she was fine. We had just got done running after Padang style. In your mind she was fine Yeah I checked in. I not monitoring minor eater. Sorry interesting okay. So you go in the house and she told us that you guys watched a movie. What made you guys decide to watch a movie? Because I feel like that's like to our commitment right like we're now coming to you know just. I could go home and watch Netflix. The decision tree you know. I think she had ordered a Thai food or something so I was like great. Might as well go for it so she ordered food for both of you guys or for herself for both of us. Who paid for this food? I'm not sure how much it came to buy. provided quite a hefty contribution to the total payment. K. and the movie ends. What will was there any conversation or any physical touch during the movie when we were in close proximity you know watching the movie but not six feet apart cots you and then was there conversation during movie. I feel like it's hard to talk to someone during movie you know we spent more time. Talking movie was like a conversation got it. Was there anything beyond a little cuddling during the movie? What does that look like like? What can you walk us where you learn cuddling was with the dog? The dog owners attention and I need attention now so the dog got your attention or her attention or ours attention. How did how did the dog make you feel I? You're slow. Oh yeah okay. Not a cock block now this state and with a kiss at all. What kind of guy do you think I am a guy who's on podcast about eating Abadula true? We already know the answers you do. I can't speak for her. Can say that you know a gentleman. Jim Don't talk about things like that. Okay and how did the day end? I think everything ended well probably about ten. I just said you know. It's not the Times school night to go and then we'll always said during that time. Oh Oh we. We talked a lot about the podcast and stuff especially near the end wondering like what looks. Good come up this view you so we'd probably find another time to talk. I yeah we heard that you still wanted to go under the pseudo name Ryan and her lacy Slash Lucy horse so after this checkup with us. Are you going to reveal to her your real name? Or what does that look like Jeez I don't know actually I don't know what the next steps are. I think the next steps at this point. Are you guys just doing your thing if you want to or not? That's the Next Steps. We're out at this point. Yes how much you want to see her right now. How much I guess like do you WanNa soon? After a second date where it was an eight out of ten. It'll be a lot of fun. I'm just worried that day to ideas will be pretty limited. GotTa get creative here. Have you guys been in contact like on video or on phone? How's it going or Ryan I I need to? I need to hear a little bit more here because you keep talking in generalizations like. Oh you know as good as a first date will go conversation flow like a conversation. Would we saw chronic? We hung out. You know like normal people would so was there anything particularly memorable about the state. Did you develop feelings for lacy? This is the first time that this was like an experiment. Right so like this. That was super interesting Always remember it because nothing else and you know. She still has a code name. I have a code-named of courses memorable. Well do you see this going somewhere? Like outside of the experiment now that the experiment essentially is done in. It's just on you guys to continue this. What are your thoughts It's really too early to tell but I think that Lacey's great and I look forward to Gaynor better at any point during the date. Did you think I really wonder what Rachel's Like I really want. Our Taylor would be like yeah. I'm definitely curious about them. There was a tough choice coming up with information. I came in with right after three calls. I really thought that all three of them were great people. So were you thinking about the other two on the date or did not crush them. No no no no no when I you know. I think that you should be present through whatever your present wet. I'm not thinking about that. Other podcast right now your other other plots author Fairmont. That's happening heater. So thinking back to your date with Lacey named three things that you really like about her. She's Super Fun and positive. She has a really like her. The way she exists is really familiar to me. You know 'cause low key maintenance you know that really resonates. She's Florida I love. You know I'm from Florida so we will Florida manslaughter. Jokes in common actually had some really interesting jokes. To tell about you know. Gators and dog buckling and all sorts of other cravings Oh Okay we won't be talking about that. That's right that's right. Yeah I'm I'M NOT GONNA ask to make you feel on the date like what feelings you have. Oh she made me feel really welcome unit very personable. I think she just you know. We continue to build report any red flags. I think you thought she might be a little younger than she actually is. Did you have any better feel of that on well? Let's see it's my knowledge. He's twenty six so I don't know how old she actually is. But I guess to some degree we were kind of. We weren't sure where we allowed to talk about. What Ryan before. Now there are no right now that you're reading in real life. This is now back of you. We're just here to facilitate the meet and greet by once you meet in the flesh. I mean we can control any of that. But let's say if you were telling your best friend about your date with Lacey. How would you describe her? I would say that. She's a beautiful tall athletic girl with a really kind heart fund. Smile in New York. Yeah it's just I guess a general question like you seem like you're in this very much like we'll take it as it goes and I don't want to put the cart before the Horse missile. You generally approach relationships or do you feel like you're doing that because of either a the experiment or be because you're not sure about her. I'd say that that's typically how for me at this stage. That's kind of where I'm at for me to date sin. I mean what I know about a person not even two days bridal phone conversation in a date any thoughts about what your second date could be and win. Look let me see how. Gosh maybe urban hike We'll have to see what's what's going on like these things are changing. What may really be fine because she has such good shape maybe workout together. I ought to keep up. I'm a little afraid of making a bad impression. Well that's a good one. I mean that's allowed on shelter in place and you can definitely be six feet apart if you're running or full. Shuki Way from one hundred feet of a dog the first place and then it's Lisi and anti run far enough to die. We'll definitely be in second part dog will be in first. That's the key to saying six feet apart on dates. We got it now. I know for the for the first chunk of the whole experience. Like two hundred feet away. Actually Australia program. She left well. It's GonNa be interesting to see what happens because of any budding romance like we talked about date one. You just don't know right. You don't know where the other person you don't know who also talked to knew who else you're talking new but then we also have this avalanche of Corona virus next into so it's GonNa be really interesting to see what ends up playing out for this one. Definitely if I give you this scenario right now and said let's say we give you an option of meeting up with either Rachel or Taylor and give you their contact information beyond their phone number because we can change your phone number. Certain Stockton Hunger under the stipulation that you cannot contact lacy again. Oh I wouldn't like that it'd be good. I made a choice and so and I. It's I'd have more information about racing. Now look at that. I love it. Look at that one woman man. I love it after one day. He's like Like if if I had a bad time lacy or something of course the aren't you and I didn't have time or anything. So it's that'd be weird right since I already have the phone numbers to the other girls than like a real. This is not a real scenario. We could easily change them. Could you owe six them now? I've I haven't reached out to them since experiments of how okay I'm trying to keep the experiment pristine you guys are already muddled off about k. On the actual love is blind. Show you stay with your partner. But they let the other people come back later so this is kind of the idea. It's not muddling experiment. It's actually continuing experiment. It's real life. That's how real life is a really sounds like you both respect each other and the two of you had a good enough time with each other to want to see each other again. I mean that's basically the what we've gathered from both of you the only red flag. I wouldn't even call red flag that she communicated to us was the fact that it got cold. And you put on your jacket and your hat and your gloves and didn't offer it to her but she did also say. She told you she was fine. When she really wasn't she was really really cold. Well the thing with that is is that we're like fifty feet from our house and switch decides to wear and she tells me she's good. I kinda got to go with that like unless I wanNA start manse planning or something right. You know what's so fascinating now as I feel like you both are very slow to proceed like. You're both very cautionary about this. Whole thing of like. Oh we had one date and it was good. I don't want to jump the gun. I don't WanNa get too excited because it's one day in your both kind of like treading a little and I think we've been. We've been having a hard time figuring out from you guys like how excited you are about the other person view conduct like literally both of you have the exact same vibe about it. It was really great. But you're not like it was awesome like there's not like that excitement in your voice that you know Definitely Been Times where I met somebody and I was really excited and I got ghost right and I thought it was the greatest thing ever and. I'm sure there hadn't been other times where I was like you know. I don't know what I'm talking to this person in all my God. That was like you know Greece Romances of my life. You know and so I guess they're important time you just kind of be like. I don't know what's going to happen so let me just keep an open mind you know. At least that's where I'm at. It seems like maybe that's where she's at two. I totally get why. You're both kind of like. I don't WanNa put all my cards on the table but then at the same time if I don't know I think sometimes when someone's not like I really liked you had such a great time with you listening very really just putting it out there things. Don't get off the ground either. So it's kind of a catch. Twenty two is like you. Don't WanNa go all in because you have this past her. You have these past experience like you just mentioned getting ghosted but then also like. How do we take a chance and move something to the next level? I also think it's just you know there's companies right with doing too much of any type of movement or connection with someone right now. The world is a different place in a month ago. Yeah even when we first started this experiment two weeks ago three weeks ago right. I honestly believe you two are very good politicians. Because you both knew you're going to be coming on this podcast talk about your posted interview and you don't want to say anything that goes either direction so both of you are staying in the Middle Lane keeping the door open and seeing where things go but yes as as someone who's listening to this from as a third party. I really don't have much of an idea of how excited you two are about each even though your words are there. I don't honestly feel that yet because I think both of your like Ooh. I don't want express too much excitement in case he doesn't say that he's excited about me or in case. She doesn't say she's excited about me. Too I actually don't think it's that I don't think it's you guys playing politician. I actually think we've had a lot of people on the PODCASTS. That have out rights that they didn't have a good day number Shelby in to blind dates like she latte out with like I had a bad date. This is like ninety percent of dates. I think happened on dating apps today. It's good it's good but it's not like exceptional in life gets in the way and that's when things don't go the next level. I think this was much better than might for me at least knew my average digging up experience much. Oh interesting interesting. I still think there's a little bit of plain politician there in there but I also think to your point Julie is that for I. Eight people don't necessarily open up that much in they don't show a level one ability so therefore I states are always hovering around a five six seven because like that. It's obviously very right. Like the NATO us today. Okay I remember. I don't know maybe it might be only like six because you know to lay she it was you know three or whatever now. I think you guys were literally the exact same yet. Healings in sentiments on it and it could just be your personalities too. That's the other factor out there like we said with podcast guests. We've had some people that are just totally transparent. But we don't know you're dating histories fully wake both of you. Just seem a little cautious. That's what I'm getting at both of you. Yes and I would venture to believe that this is how you would act with other dates to outside of this podcast and I think a lot of people are just generally cautious. Because they don't know what the other person's thinking they don't know how many other people while they're purchase dating and I think we don't WanNa put ourselves out there fully convinced too scary so it's better to have an okay date or date where I could take it or leave it. If they call me right instead riling your friends like home super excited in the straight. Of course I I definitely agree with that. Are about toiling all your friends. I've definitely been there. We've all been there. You know. And that sucks but you know. I think there's a. There's a gap between tilling all your friends about it. One thing is actually being super excited right. You know and I think that you know I would encourage all daters to go and let all hang out because the person doesn't love you back. Never see them again anyway. Best Foot forward. Yeah you do the same the same Ryan do I? Did you know he's role he's on the PODCAST? So he's done on the pocket that's right I guess? The Litmus test is when she texts you. How do you feel a little nervous? She talks a little bit about that. But are you excited excess? I see her. He literally prescribed any conversation. I said a little bit of something. She says something back and I said something to all in all. I know it's up the text. I don't need to know what you guys are taxed throughout. I think it's for me. It's like I know really into someone when I see their name pop up and I get that excited feeling It's not about what they're texting me. It's the feeling that they're reaching out. Right what are do feel does feel good when I get back right on the guy so. She's not texting texting her. Do you want her to be texting. You more I think it's great when people. I think it's silly that girls wait to be contacted so much it's like I don't know. I have like so perplexed by this works by what. I'm just so perplexed because I guess I've been out of the dating scene for so long. This is all coming back to a year and a half. It's all coming back to haunt me now because I now remember all those first dates I win on. I see him again and then if I don't see him we unlike it's fine if I don't see him again cool. Yeah we've been chatting about stuff. I guess I rather step away from date thinking. I really want to see this person again or I really don't want to see this person again yesterday. You know what though? I'm generally like specialist all hanger. I'm generally like that too but I think lacey actually brought up. A good point is that she's had those situations in the they've gone in fields right like they've gotten too hot and heavy just like die and I think what she's saying she'd rather take it slow and let something developed over time and she saw you as someone that she could enjoy being around but she did enjoy being around with you. She could see it. Developing over time like there was that baseline attraction there was that baseline like I like him as a person. It just wasn't like fireworks from day one but her point was the ones that have been fireworks from day. One have it worked out so there is a benefit of taking it. Slow too and I don't honestly I don't know what the right answer is because I can see both ways of it. Yeah I think that that resonates now. I'd love to go into some takeaways of justice entire experiment the date everything like I think for me like what I'm gathering for. You is even though. Yeah we're questioning the excitement one hundred percent. But you're still saying this was a better date than most of your dating APP dates. You felt like you authentically got to know someone a bit more and I think there is a benefit of this kind of taking it slow not necessarily letting the physical outrun everything else in building that connection. Yeah in this segment. We only had you guys talk for three times in. Love is wine. They did like ten days straight. Nothing else but I think that also showed that people could build up report and I think it was interesting. There is some of them physically attracted still but there were some. That didn't so I think it's good that we actually saw this. As we're both like happy with the outcome of the two and like the physical matched or actually even pleasantly surprised. In some situations I guess the takeaway I have overall is. Let's take it slow. Let's get to know people especially when we're in the world of Corona virus right now like leads us the time to have more conversations on the phone do a video call before meeting up like even outside Corona virus. Like this stuff is. It's a good way to bill reports of See goto dates feeling like they're our friend. Not just random stranger. Yeah I think it reduces a lot of awkwardness. People complain about so many people connected with online Right away but yet. No one wants to awkward. Everyone's the conversation just flow Mike. So magic. You're like what are you guys even talking about you know. How is that supposed to happen if you just met them? I've seen yeah. There are some people that works out with nursing's good but I've had some great relationships with that wasn't the case too and later on you know after we've been dating for six months he says yeah we're on that first time talking to you is like pulling teeth. I can get anything out of you out So it's just like I think. We need to like our expectations down a little bit set. Aside some of those presumptions be present engaged. Whatever it is there as long as it lasts. That's a moment of your life. You'll never get back. I I do think what I learned from this experiment. From the design of the experiment in itself is that immed- you and the three women that you talk to all view this as a long term experiment. What I mean by that. It's it's more than once. So when they spoke to you on the phone for the first time they knew that was in the last time and two other times to do it and I think a lot of times with modern dating is out on your first date. You think it's either the state or we don't see each other again. You're putting all your pressure and expectations on that one date and it's nice to spread that out over time and what I've learned from your feedback and Lisi's feedback is that you don't see this as a short term thing you are thinking okay this. We keep doing this. We keep getting to know each other. We I see a few other dates in the near future. And we're just going to keep this going and that's something we don't give each other any more. Is that time and because of Krona Virus. What are we getting back is time so this is the perfect time to give each other more time to spend that time to get to know each other better but my challenge to both you and lacy is to spend that time wisely. I agree with organic conversation and asking these really great questions that are like. Oh tell me about your most dangerous trip which is great you can learn some but what can you do on your next conversation to even push it a little bit more? Where can you open up more? Where can you become more vulnerable or see where she can become more vulnerable because what the danger of having too much time right now is that we could just stalemate and just be where we are surface level? You know what that's really fascinating. Because I was actually going to save that something. I've been thinking about since the last conversation we had is. I actually thought for sure that you are GonNa pick Taylor because the way you spoke. It sounded like there was more desolate conversation. You guys talked about past relationships. You've talked about like struggles in your lives like if felt like it was getting more to the core where Lee C. Kept describing as fun and I actually sat with this real little. I think actually a make sense why you went down the route of fun because I think I dates in First. Interactions should be fun. Like that is where you're looking for more playful connection and I also I am looking back my own. Dating life in the The dates I had that I walked away thinking. We're a freaking Grand Slam. Like I thought they were like the best days of my life. We like revealed our lives stories to each other and then either ghosted origin. Go anywhere and I think the ones that I actually had relationships form like my last boyfriend our first date we talked about like pranks pulled on people. We didn't go super deep like we just built up connection and we had that fun playfulness to it in Matt King Leader and I think also sometimes and I'm guilty of this too. It's like we hit a certain age. We hit a point that we really want a serious relationship than you're like I need to get it all out on the table right away but you actually have this like reaction. That was kind of like. I don't want to hurt Taylor. I don't want to like pursuing in case it doesn't work out because you kind of had all of that and I think it's a lesson that defeating the initial stages fund is still. The primary goal in the stock can come out later but to you as point. It needs to come out at some point in deepened. Because if it just stays fun the whole time that it stays service level there. Yeah and also we can't. Sometimes we mistaken deep conversations for connect. And that's not always the case I've had dates where someone's really opened up to me and I didn't say much and they probably thought it was the deepest connection and I really didn't think so so we should also redefined what a connection is connection can be on the fun side as well that is also a connection but on the other side. I don't think it's just about saying deep shit right. And you actually said this to Ryan. I think the Taylor Conversation. You're like we talked a lot about spirituality but it wasn't necessarily like a deep connection was informed it was. We just talked about deeper stopped. What you I think One of my takeaways that those were first impressions. I think we so often jump jump to the conclusion that this is. My interaction and this person is right now. I think going back to your point earlier about this kind of one in dating mindset. You know we go back to high school. There are so many people that you had repeated interactions with and then over time. You know that person you thought was for you. You're like no way later on some other girl. You were thinking not that interesting. You know what that blossoms into something really magical. When I looked at the three girls I realized like in this amount time resonated and as we connect to be sort of ways each of them has very complex given enough time. It'll be exciting things. And they'll be deep things for all of them in fun. I installed them giving them out of time. And just baptism interaction. That's how it went. You generalize it too much about the person beyond whatever that you do it so fast day. I did like this blind speed dating or not blind love. It's it's a virtual st dating for during Corona Virus. I tried this last week and I actually had a few experiences just due to technical glitches where it was me. The guy in another girl came in and because it was like the way that Just the rooms were organized. I think actually Rachel said this on the call is that you do as a woman you know how other women date right. You don't know how they're coming off in the perception in what I noticed on this kept happening like a couple times of just like how bubbly and how excited a lot of the women wore her. So I'm like it's a really interesting thing you just said it's you do only get this one snapshot. I think Speed dating is like the ultimate test. You have like three minutes right but you have to think Rachel brought this obviously. She was excited to hear how she was perceived. I think actually all the girls brought this up is this experiment wasn't just about going on a date it was about what is the perception that I'm giving off too because we don't know as humans right. Yeah Actually Rachel did bring that up. We spoke about that in some detail. At least in Rachel's Case I thought that she was well within the realm of normal and the best version of herself. She shouldn't have any sort of concerns there. But I think we all kind of wonder you know. How is it for someone else? Or what's everyone else experiencing right now? I think we have to be careful not to spend too much time on that and we just need to realize in my in the realm of decency and my trying to be my best self so right. That's a really good point because at the end of the day like whoever is going to be attracted to you. It's GonNa like the qualities that you bring but I think it's balancing staying true to yourself but also recognizing that a first impression is a first impression. Yes the major. The this idea comes to mind from this conversation. Which is I think we need to take. Time to incubate are connections and our relationships and I say this because look at all the reality. Tv shows sure some of them are they fall in love really fast. But it's sort of believable because you are trying to focus on one person for a certain amount of time and it's it's focus attention of course you're going to start developing feelings for them and in fact There's a show on Netflix. One hundred humans Oh Yeah but they did an episode on attraction attractiveness and they showed a series of photos of people and they had you choose who you thought was most attractive and the at the end who chose most attractive was actually the the picture they showed the most. It wasn't so much just. At first glance it was just a photo that the face that you found most familiar interesting you ask I. I think this is why facetime and this is why splitting more than that. First date with. Someone is so important as long as you have that baseline connection right. You feel like you enjoy each other's company. Then you gotta just incubate that for a little bit and let it simmer because that passion chemistry attraction that can all come later but you still just need that baseline first and just give each other more time. And that's exactly what lacey end rioter doing so excited to see what happens for you guys. I think it's going to be really. I think there's something good here for sure. Yeah I agree. I'm excited. I'm sold now and also before we go anybody's listening to this and would also like to participate in a similar experiment. Please let us know. We're looking for subjects for next experiment. We love doing these. All right. We're going to wrap this up and six feet. 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Ep163: The "Too Much" Club

So, Here's My Story...

24:47 min | 2 months ago

Ep163: The "Too Much" Club

"My mom used use this expression like never cut off your toes to fit in the boot. Business is messy and unpredictable sometimes lowly. And inspiration can often come from really weird places. We pick up where the bullet point blogs and the highlight reels leave off. We start with stories. So, here's my story. I got a An email from a former student of mine, she was in my public speaking class and maybe A. Couple of years ago, they the semester's run together after awhile, and she said professor I was hoping that I could. Talk to you I could give you a call at some point whenever it's convenient for you. and. I. Just. I gave her some times and. And she said, she emailed me back and she said I just thank you so much. It's nothing really urgent. Just wanted to talk to you from minute short and I really zoomed. I WANNA. To jot down to three or four ways. I. Think this story might go 'cause. HR episode, or so I thought that she was basically like signing her first. Lease or buying a house. There's something contract like all for law. I'm like what she wants money for their own. Law. Advice thought she probably, yes. You probably doing something either. Were my remembering than Mayakoba. Business major starting a business. So but I just. Probably signing a contract rox. We'd we got on the phone and she said. We. Do you remember me? Of course, I. Remember. You said, you remember what I talked about in class. As that, when you're going to have to your speeches, you're gonNA have to refresh my recollection. So she gave me an example I said, yes, and I remembered exactly speech and how she gave it all that stuff. and. I said. Yeah. So what's what's up because your email maybe I read it wrong. But your email sounded like you were upset she goes. Yeah. Do, you think I, I think about things too much. and. What? She said well. I mean, do you do you just think that I should? Like, I think about things, but I should just not mention it or I should not talk about what I'm thinking and I said to her knocker user real name. So let's just say it's Lisa Lisa. Somebody. Telling you that WHO put this? It's like somebody put this in your head. And she goes, yeah, I've just been. You know some. That good. It overthinking and she put it narrowed. Hey. Sorry. She's at somewhere friends than this guy had been talking to when. I. Would. would. Give my opinion on whatever and. I just you know. He told me what you think. Think too much about things. One is. Not Enough. And I just wanted to know. Do you. Think. So okay. Okay. I'm like I'm like pulling my fighting gloves on here first all Agai go ahead finish. What I was saying Tories I was so appalled by this. Yeah, I have to tell you to be honest with you. I have tell you that I was kind of flattered that you would reject. Call, me because it going to be my first comment I. Did like like before I went into fight mode. I. Was GonNa say, let's not skip over the fact that when someone was having, what might have been there I like you know crisis identity crisis sort of like questioning that a past student reached out to you which I think is is really touching and really important mel was great, but I was really Irritated. If, not angry. At, the person who is telling her basically or people who call themselves refunds yet stop being so much of you. Yeah, and just adopt yourself to the behavior that we think is acceptable. Which Yeah, this is. I think it's it's personal. It's developmental business and I had. Have something to say about hits everything. The fact that I've controlled myself this much to let you finish your story is impressive. It is admirable at that This. This is one of those rare times that I wish we had like checked off explicit. On our podcast rating because there are swear words that I would very much like to use as to how much this really blows my lid about things blows my lid, what am I from nineteen thirty, seven So so here's here's a couple of things. This entire conversation of too much is like the bane of all my favorite people's existence I. Don't know anyone that I love and adore that didn't navigate their way through some muck of being too much something often just generally too much too loud talks too much. I. Mean I think I've mentioned this on the show before. Every single report card of my elementary years said that I taught show, jody, she's great this and she's got a great, but she talks too much. I also get thinks too much rights too much like laughs. My kids laugh too loud like I. Feel like there's sort of like too much club in the world. And my mom fortunately, and even with her support in this way, it still has just always been real like. Achilles heel kind of thing. My mom used use this expression like never cut off your toes to fit in a boot. which I just think is such a great metaphor because that's what this dude is asking her to do. Please cut off some of your toes. So the fit in his book that I have for you, but here's here's so I could go on and on about how much I think that is ridiculous and anybody who thinks you're much of anything should just immediately be classified as not your person. He's not with the right people if those not with the right people and I can tell you right now that the older I get the somehow the more I find around me. People who who, who, not just can stand to tolerate me the way that I am. But actually like. Welcome like openly welcome at like I like that you write me these really long responses in Facebook Messenger, whatever because I can. I, can hear you talking and I can hear all the things you're thinking about and I like the way you think, and this is why I'm telling you holy personal side of it that that the difference between those two things. The one thing in this story like contracts you and I actually just felt myself. Do I was talking about that friend who has commenting on? I like when you write me long things blah. Like there's something. So expansive about that, and it changes who you are, and it changes what resources you have to show up to a thing or it can I mean, you can do it on yourself as well. But I think so many people get chopped off early and it stunts their growth in their career growth, their personal development All the things that make leader are. I'm in meetings all the time, and I don't I don't I always hesitate as as I. Know You do to classify people by. Category whether it's race or gender or whatever. But I do see this risk a lot of times in in. Female professionals who are coming up in the ranks especially, and I've talked to a number of them, especially of your the only woman in a room full of men, and if somebody along the lines has told you. That you think too much or whatever. I, I've seen people and I've heard women described as that. They had to fight against their tendency to just shrink into a corner, and then if you shrink and you hesitate in contributing than, you're seen by everybody, else's having no contributions to make. Yeah now. Your growth is don't Yep Yep and I think absolutely I mean, it's definitely A. A I, I grew up in a long lineage are very loud women. Who interrupt each other all the time. So I was, but I think that's part of why I've always done. Well in male dominated industries. Is that I I have a terrible interrupting people problem I? Mean I do it all the time, but that means I never. Should you like really I hadn't noticed sometimes you let me speak. Do you talk you? I do get excited about a thought of I can't. It's the total eighty. which by the way, very hysterically, my kids. We all have the same learning challenges. At least one of my kids got both some eighty stuff, and we were at a parent teacher conference, and she was talking about how they were really working with my son on not interrupting and the raising his hand, and I was making the mom as like, yes, I know we work in the realm as well and you know and I was I was being very serious. Whatever I kid you not like three seconds later. She was talking an idea popped into my head and I was like, oh, by the way like bumble, and she just looked at me and I was like. A. We we need to work on that at the household but. There yet interrupting, but you know what I I also think that the same thing I think at different thing happens to men like they. They don't. They don't get squelched in that like contribute to a conversation, but I think they get they get their toes cut off in a whole other swath of stuff when young about like you're not allowed to be too emotional or too sensitive or to this or too that there's Definitely, think there's a very distinctive in business female issue like you were raising, which is richest for certain. And what happens if you defy that in some especially in some industries? Suddenly you're there's a whole string of names. I also can't say in a not explicit thing where if you're not the quiet while far of a woman. And both in person, and in business I I think that same kind of stuff happens to To men to in different ways, they don't think they're allowed to show emotion, but the I got. So Fear I. Don't think I've ever been as mad at my kids last week or it lasts years when they were making fun of the way I, laugh because when I'm truly laughing I like this loud Ghaffar laugh or something and they're making. Remember saying what a terrible thing to make fun of somebody for their like their most authentic, just like expulsion of. And that's the moment you're gonNA, kick them in this shins like I'm sorry, it's a little loud but come on like it's laughter. So I. I think anything that trims the person down files off their edges is chess like criminally unfortunate though in you're right about on the on the male side where I've seen it where I've experienced it is. There's a stereotype certainly in a lot of the management teams, rooms that I've been in that. You're supposed to take really hard line aggressive action. Supposed to whether it's in politics, you might be a hawk, you know. and. So if you're in the room as I have been saying, well, wait a minute. I know that we can do this. But I don't really think it's fair. I. Think that we should do this the other way where perhaps we're not taking the other side into account and you get a lot of blowback. Saturday you one. or Go ahead. Oh, look at him, and then there are all these misogynistic things you have to go out and check your scourge or. because. Because all of a sudden you're not fulfilling gender role if you're being too sensitive. So yes, there are many and it doesn't have to be related to. Whether, it's gender or the other things you know. Race Sexual Orientation. Doesn't even have to be related to category. It can be related to this person. I mean, when bacter- example thinking. This? Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you can't bring your authentic point of view and and you lose something and I wanna go back to the original example thinking too much now. Okay. I'm GONNA I'm going to step back from what I was GONNA. Say for starters say when is that ever a problem? It's totally a problem if it's causing you a problem if it's if it's creating. An unending spiral of anxiety for you that you can't pull out of? Okay. Maybe that is thinking to my or that's actually that's not even thinking too much. That's allowing thinking become worrying, which is slightly different. You know there's there's some blurry lines there. So I guess in some cases but I do not. Suspect that was the context of care in which this gentleman or not. So gentleman and ended up as I was so offended by the by the opposition I, didn't I didn't WanNa get into. Deep into her personal life or or ask for lies thing that shouldn't feel comfortable doing what I was basically saying is if people are telling you not to be yourself, they're not your people either not. And thinking too much in the world could use a few people who think a little bit and actually will take the time to get into a thing and I just. It's. It's so interesting to me. Because I can most pull from my own personal experience on this. Anyway is I feel like at least once a week I noticed like I actively notice that the things that I am most valued for now, the things I get literally paid for or the things even friends or family really appreciate are pretty much list things. Other people have other people have said, I was too much about, and I think that's really like instead of it being a saw that cuts off toews to get in the boot. I. Think it's more. Of, like a Oh what? was wondering how you were going to bring by the way. Until. He's switching metaphors, but like a navigational device, but I was thinking. which the stick with the water, the water divining Rod divining Rod Kinda. Yet, that's terrible metaphor. I would like to point out while I can only got three hours of sleep last night. So I I, my brain is like. Firing and weird ways. Assode we will. We will explain how the divining rod fits in the boot. Doesn't it's terrible metaphor, but here's what I meant. It's like a litmus test for finding people, and so it probably goes back to that quote. I know we've used in an episode before that. I heard one time about. Everything about your marketing, everything about your business should be that dog whistle that only your ideal clients here. I think this falls in that exact same category. If if somebody thinks I think too much or talk too much or write too much or whatever I'm like. Okay. Cool. Thanks for allowing me to realize you are not my. Move along the word returning divining rod because I think it's absolutely apt is has. Is Your divining. Follow your too much into the places where that's an exact precise fit where it fulfills a real need because that's your home. And you're likely to find your people there and I don't know what Lisa was quote thinking too much about. But I would suspect that she was knowing her as a as I do remember her she's. She's quiet. She's very smart. And, she's not one who's prone to just leap into ill-considered. relations. And I think she's very deliver down Oregon away or anything like that. But I think she's very careful about hell she. Moose forward in the world I have this theory. I've never I've never spent enough time with it to really prove it out. So I I don't think this is A. You know a placebo that's not the word I want the panacea like apple applied everything, kind of thing, but. I think. So often if I flip through a bunch of examples of either my own or other people's to muchness things. It is. It's always when it's like asking the other person of something, they don't want to give or it's like it's always about the other person. They don't what they're really saying is I. I'm not big enough for you. I don't have enough capacity for all that you have to bring to this conversation. I'm not ready for this level of whatever it is that you're bringing and that to me was a huge shift when I started to notice that kind of like like Oh, you think too much or you just you know you always want to someone said to me like you always just want to make things as good as they can be. Like Okay Let an insult because you set it in a really insulting tone. That's a huge compliment like so I. Think. It's if we stick with the BOOT metaphor for a moment, maybe what it is instead of the saw, it's actually that goofy foot sizing says like you need a book like this, you're you need a bigger size boot than this. So I think it really says more about. How good of a fit the people around you are than it does. It should never ever be A. You know a a classification of your value or worth or shape or size or texture any. That I do think that it's it could be a really useful tool in growing as an organization if you're actually on the lung on. Who is quote unquote too much in some respect for their current situation? Yeah. Because that's a real opportunity for evolution. If you have somebody who is in a, you know the the the job equivalent of just putting on headlights on Ford's on an assembly line, but you realize that they think too much. Then it's not a criticism of them, but they're misaligned with the job and you're missing opportunities. Absolutely. I just was in a conversation, a couple of weeks ago with a team and they keep having all these problems with this person, but then I sat in on a few meetings in every single time. I just. I saw. Other things involved. So I know it's not this simple, but it was really hard for me to overlook this. This person has this really strategic brain and they keep chiming in with like. Well, you know, should we be thinking this way and the? Company was really just wanting the. They're upset because this person's not doing a good job of like take tabby stick in slutty take tabby stick in slot, and like we just need before, we can talk about more. You could be doing do that. Well, which I've said myself, I, subscribe to that. You GotTa do this part. Well, you got to be able to contribute where you are. So I believe that but. What a missed opportunity because this person always brought so much value to these conversations and it's just not even getting heard. For you know and I see that in in my firm as well. I mean I've worked on a number of really complicated and document intensive cases with Lacey Lacey and I have literally triple the amount of experience that she does I've been doing this for thirty years and so it was only When we developed just such a great working relationship and she started to say more not just do what she was assigned to do. But started saying, Hey, have we thought? What about doing this or how about other thing, and she was not shying retiring to begin with, which is a great thing. She became much more comfortable. In saying, you know what? Maybe we're thinking about this the wrong way. and. That's become one of the the best and most valuable parts of our collaboration. We can. She's going to think about things completely differently than I do. And just as often as I am rage, she's right and it. It's it had such a dimension, but our industry is such that that's not the typical way to go. You're supposed to be associate. You're supposed to just stay in your lane Well, that's the funny thing though you I, guess I mean, it's possible. You would have gotten that from her if you had acted this way in the beginning but. If. You spent her first few years of with you. Telling. Her she was too much of anything all the time. You would not have likely seen that lacey who's been extended. You know who even tried to send even taller than she already was to try and like. Yeah Wars. Sort of kept. Deter yourself. She would have stayed and she would have been. You, know fifty percent affected as she is now, and that is the irony here. Because I think what ends up happening is that because I don't think anyone notices I think ninety, nine percent of people will hear this episode and totally agree with every word I said, and you said and never realize like they might be the person who's telling other people there too much. I, don't think anyone realizes they are the, you're too much person because they're just sort of expressing their like. Too. Loud, you're too this. You think too much and they think they're. Doing. That to people and I see companies all the time when you too much people. And then later down the line. You're talking to me because you're not getting like discretionary above and beyond effort out of people, and after a few conversations, I'm like, oh, they got their fingers slapped back when they were like just trying to sort of stand up tall as they are, and they took that as cut off those toes so that you can fit in stay here, and so the two things are incredibly related and unfortunately, I? Think. The too much part often happens accidentally. It does and I think that in order to have that honest conversation with you or you the one that is constricting somebody, I, think the the shift in thinking has to go in your own internal dialog from M. I., restricting somebody to allowing yourself to think how am R- restricting some. Action that you are regardless whether you think you are if you take is that you are in, say loud that I doing that. Then it frees you up to say, oh Okay or even better. 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The Infomercial Impostor with Tawny Newsome

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The Infomercial Impostor with Tawny Newsome

"Right now on your wolf joined besties Nicole buyer, Sutiarso, Mehta, for hilarious chats, pulling in class, where chickens come from and so much more every week on best friends for more follow at Your Wolf on Social Media Happy, listening polly lacked was the secret weapon behind some of the most beloved movies of the seventies, eighties and nineties. This season on, you must remember this. We're telling Platz full story for the first time. So join us, won't you? For polly Platt the invisible woman. New episodes drop every Tuesday subscribe on the stitcher. APP or wherever you find your podcasts. You like podcasts. Right whether you listen occasionally or can't get through your day without them. There's a great app you need to try. It's called Stitcher stitcher is a free APP for android. That's really easy to use from classic favorites, too. 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We have to solve with Tony like I. Never really say your last name. Yeah. You don't really need the I don't really know many other Tony's so we don't need it. It's a good name. It's a really lacy. We're pretty rare. I rarely meet a Lacey Lacey Duval sheep buck game. Lacy Peterson that was an. Let's go I know Lacey. I know a white lacy who used to teach spin classes in my old neighborhood, but then she got fired for yelling at a white man. And that's all I'm going to say about that. She I think I like that Lacey. I think I like Bill Lacey. We was on her side she did she did yell at him real hard, but also like he was wild. So I'm with that Lacey Lacey is I know personally I'm with. Yes I can't I've only gotten to really yell at somebody real hard like twice in my life and boy can I tell you it's liberating. Remember just because the Montreal. They 'cause. They deserved it. They deserved it I dated once, and unfortunately the circumstances weren't great, because I was outside a business a theater. We won't say which and there was a valet line and I started cursing news heff. Zao So bad the valet. Clinton at the end. I need to go home. Hell Yeah. That's what we call a command performance. They're saying rob. Aw! Blah Blah I know they are not drilling right now. Oh, my God I will beat. My neighbors asses, okay. We are at home. You also hear some drilling dot. Don't email. Do not call and certainly do not tweet about it. Okay doing the best. We can't be out. But especially in these trying times, if y'all some issues with some sound quality on a black woman's podcast right now you need to reexamine. Take a beep reexamine straight up repression. We've been out here in the streets. For you yours and everybody. But. Yeah, Girl, how are you? I mean I know that you know this I. Don't mean mean to make it heavy, but I just haven't gotten to like talk to you. Talk to you and I got a check in with my black people. How are you yeah? I mean I'm hanging in there yesterday like this'll. This'll come out on I believe. June ninth, so this'll be a week. So where are we in the future now? Guys Woo so ago, It was pretty rough I went to protest I was very sore. Honey they don't tell you like Martin. Luther King dim protests. That's a workout Hannie Okay and when they said they marched on Washington I don't know which millennials they would've been able to pull up to march on Washington honey 'cause I was like Ooh, ten miles in. I was like. Oh, we still march. Okay? Yeah, no justice, no peace. Rough word. It is and people who really take it for granted because you know, you just see pictures, and you think people are just post in, but we were out there, chanting and screaming in the Sun, marching in the people I met were so lovely, and you know some people brought some drums, and some people drove with some music, so it was Kinda Lady Nina got very scary So. Yeah. I was kind of I. was following your stuff a lot along with some other friends and I was like. Yeah I. Liked your coverage like you're a reporter at saying. The things you were posting I found interesting, so thank you for Thank you for being there. Of course quaid and I mean I have asthma, so I definitely shouldn't have my little black s out there and my mother call my mother during the process because I'm not just go find out. These pitch. She was like. She was like. Go there I'm. Going to be out there. Was Not pleased Lorie monopolies, but I think everyone needs to really recognize the Gravitas of people being out in the streets. When there's a pandemic, that's overwhelmingly disproportionately affecting black and Brown people and we're still out here in the streets, because that's how critical the situation is, so you know we ain't gonNA keep. We're not gonNA. Hold down. You know this podcast is about liberty, light, anti, but also black as reminder. Yeah, Yeah Yeah Yeah. I was like I was like I. Know This not what this podcast is about, but I have canceled like all other press, because I was just like I can't talk to anybody, but some black people right now because it's just hard, it's it's hard so I'm excited to be here with you. Some bullshit for a minute. I know we've been trying to do this for awhile, and it has been my fucked up schedule. That has kept it from happening. Now. It's all good. You know I'm supposed to be in Georgia right now, so. You know everybody. Everybody's everybody's. You know having it time. But yes Sanni so let's get into our first segment. What's hot and fried so I I? Want to ask you just look question like. Do you have me relationship scams? Have you ever been scammed? You know I was raised by a very tough mom, who taught me to be on the lookout for Shenanigans and taught me to keep my wits about me. I have I will say this I have never been pick pocketed. I have never been mugged. I have and A. A lot of that is luck. A lot of that is my height and my stature. I'm not a small woman so I am less likely to be grabbed or to be for people to try and pull some shit with me, but also like. My head is on a swivel honey to the point where I look crazy when I travel. I look I'm just I'm the I'm the paranoid friend you want with you on a crowded train in a country. You've never been to before. and. They would've been spotted if you were taking your. Damn you would have been. With him in the. I. was. A? I am a little like I'm a little bit of a vigilante in that way just because like I can see. My Mom taught me to recognize behaviors of just people who meant you harm. Even if it's you know mild army, just like pickpocketing, or whatever so I will say that I have been lucky and I've been strategic, and that's never happened. I will recall one time I went with my mom to Barcelona and you know. A lot of European cities have a lot of just petty pickpocketing. That's not even any shade America has way bigger problems, but. In Europe the the pickpocketing game is is way you. There it's like the lucky. All right list, Elo myopic cookie. Cute I'm like why not? Why not and I will never forget coming down some steps in a subway and I turn around to look for my mom and my mom has a twelve year old child by the rest, and she's just looking her in the eyes and going. Why did you put your hand in my purse? And the kids like and it just breaks free and runs away. I was like okay. We're GONNA. We're GONNA be alright because I was a little nervous like traveling, I was traveling with my mom. My husband's mom was like we had all these MOMS with us, and I was like I'm dragging them through through Europe. They're going to get their ass. pickpocket or something, but no one did so yeah. Your Mom's also. She was like. She was also like it's a child right like she. She was just like. Hey, we don't do that. To. The MY DAD IS A. All say my dad is a very paranoid person and he has always raised me to be. paranoid. Black people think added against. It's a real black people thing. He loves to send me an article about The K. k. k. like know often so and most of the time. He's right, but. What what is done for me as it's kept me, it's kept me aware of scams even when they're a little even when maybe they're not that. You know threaten ad I think I'm Yeah, head on this stuff pretty well. I appreciate so. You're definitely not a mark, so you're probably closer to maybe one day being scammer because that's that's how the scale goes, it goes. We have hardcore marks improvisers on one side, and then we have people who are real real alert towards the middle, and then the far-right is like really bad scammers, and in the middle of the ride is like people just like a little. You know just like a little light fraud took a little taste issue. you know every now and then we skip love a little bit of. Fake Limp. You Know Yeah I. I'd love to do some light fraud. I wonder if it's just never occurred to me but I think I would be good at it. Is that a bad thing to say no I? Think that's an excellent thing to say and I also think you would be excellent at it. as you are at most thing, it's really that I know that you do on your excellent so I I fully believe that you'd also succeeded You know what's funny about scamming like a lot of times. It's just. Just shit that nobody thinks to do like. I took a psychology class, which really college, which really really started me like being interested in scams because they were teaching me stuff in the site class about you know bystander, effect, and ways that you know social communities interact with one another as a whole, and then I was reading it and started to realize that I was like Oh, I can just start cheating people. That's not what they were trying to teach me, but I was like. That's what I took from a shutout to the University of Pittsburgh College, like for example. If. You're in a line. And you give anybody an excuse in front of you for why you need to cut them, unless like it's like a concert or something that people are ruled thirsty for like a sneaker release, or whatever they'll normally let you in front of them, so if you're just in line at the grocery store near like hey, lars, running people, let you in front of them. Like what does that? Even your car is running. Because people don't. Turn it off and like anytime I've you know what lacy? I get this so hard because I am terrified of consequences I, guess I'm not a scammer 'cause I. Don't WanNa get caught doing shit like news, but you know what makes me. A super head on a swivel person is if you come up to me and hey, my car's running. Can I get in front of you? I will let you, but I will always be like this is a scam I will always be. Be Like okay I'M GONNA. Let you have your scam, but even people who are like trying to do legitimate things. I'm usually like this is a scam. They're running right and a Lotta Times. They are because my as scam in I. Remember one time I was going to like a buried Jenkins Film Festival some some Shit that where he was speaking, and they were replied plan when his movies and it's pretty exclusive. I got their way too late. The line was wrapped around the black and I was like I won't be doing lines like that, so I walked right up to almost the front like maybe six people behind, and then I just started standing on the corner, and then I just started leaning in close. Just leaning. All the time on my phone or like pretending to talk on the phone like I was distracted, and then I was good, and but it was a black of it right. It's buried Jenkins, and Ryan Cougar. These six white people come up and they get in line right in front of me with somebody who had been holding their place now there is this low Latino woman after Latina woman as she was not having Isa. She said we will not have beats and she was like. I'm not an artist. And I was like Damn. They really do get in front of Y'all home. You know actually how about you go out. There I was like you skip all of them, and then I'm going to get behind you. Know. To see you used. You used someone else's failed scam to advance your own that that is some inception level scamming. I applaud was like damn system. Know how you feel. I can't believe they did that to you. You've been here since three. o'clock is eight PM. See. This is a boldness that I don't possess. It's mostly panic because I'm like I can't lose. Something comes over me and I cannot Lou. I'm like I got to keep our. GUYS WE'RE GONNA. Warn you about what's hot and fraud. So I got a listener letter, tawny and this listener. Let a really intrigued me because when I first opened it. It says I didn't WanNa soon this until I checked the statute of limitations and I said yes. Yes, Lacaille, whatever this is spicy, flavorful, delicious I will imbibe and We will call this person. You know I'm GonNa. Call this person and Teddy Riley. And that's just a deep cup for y'all black folks Teddy Riley I. Love Your I love your aliases you. We give it to people. They crack me up. Like your wife Google Teddy Riley versus battles can get the. Gifts and memes that was so funding. Who Teddy Riley was joined the most Oh. My God to a king was years dialled. I can't believe that that was months ago. Crazy, so teddy Riley's earl that was early teen. and was the teen is. The time is starting to fly by which I'm okay with my get to November. Because we got work to do so the team can keep flying, although my birthday is coming up before the July if I gotta be inside on my birthday by myself like I'm a really be say. The must city boy. You'RE GONNA. Lose your own house. He girls waste came out. I was like I'm really a, but could I was supposed to be a hot gruesome and I'm having a condition, lonely girls some life. Now. It's not how to all know what little we'll plan you. A little social distancing hang like did for producer. America's Zig. I don't want that Shit. I Love Dick and I went to it. On A PARTY! You want to rent a merchant. You throw this in my face. I planned that Suare I had to to. Do I had to send a zoom link I had. To, do I had to give myself a drink? It was hard planning. I had to what I had to do. With you guys whenever I had to have the zoom pro account. That account this links I just click on links. I ain't never started assuming my Laflin. That's my scam. Yeah, I, don't start to have people invite you but guys. I recognize my inherent privilege, and so I I can afford the zoom account. You zoom pro coins in this space, okay? Okay okay scores. So guys I had to say you know when I have a friend on the show, we won't be making engines. Okay, so don't be tweet me about these okay. But like we were saying daddy rally. So Teddy. Riley told us our needs to make sure I didn't send the sand before the phase could watch, and we appreciate that Ted. We're not trying to get you arrested. Teddy said. Please don't use my name anyway. If you must call me, call me slick. From Oh. He Ted he had already come up with a name. Okay. I like teddy better but slick from Seattle cute anyway. Anyone that deserves to know. We'll know any who this was. All back about eighteen to twenty years ago, the first new twenties with the big faces were the norm and old twenties were still very common. This was also right when laserjet printers got good, my cousin and I tried put it off some twenty dollars bills, and they looked very convincing, but they didn't feel like real money. You know what I. I mean Oh. You know I. Know What you mean. I used to work at bars where I had to rub the money because there's parts on the money that's like on me to write. The has that kind of surface on it, not raise. Yeah, that's textured, and then we would market with a Pan We'd hold it up to the light 'cause food. The twenties in New York were flying so. I know what you about, so he says. He says we tried to pass off fake bills at some convenience stores, and it worked a couple of times, but a couple of times we had to run away from a suspicious clerk. After this. We just you speak bills to burn corny school drug dealers. We were still young at the time. We weren't beaten up. Little key is okay against. High School drug dealers. That's his. I guess they need their money. I'm just confused about. Yeah. That's true. I've just confused about his range of bad things to do. Give fake money too corny drug dealers to beating up little kid I. Don't really understand why it back. To Eight A. C. You, we're going to go from. Oh, he's giving money to high school children to. He's beating them up. I wasn't going to go there. Where you beating them up. I think you might have been leading them up Teddy Riley. been beating, Emma. So one day I saw a TV ad that gave me an idea and here I have a photo and it's Barbie. Like Mattel's Barbie guys and it's called the fashion designer refill kit. It says make more real closed for your Barbie. Doll, so Barbie is making these like printout like digital printer kind of thing so that kids can give Barbie new fit honey. Did you ever Barbie Doll? Yeah I had I had a bunch of Barbie dolls. Did you ever tear their hair off? Hither White. Who does why why would I do? They never get yo Barbie shape I mean. I mean no, I was just like so fucking brainwashed covetous of the long straight hair. They all had I was like Oh beauty. Oh Damn, I guess some wrong with me because I was giving my barbies fades shit. I, they looked great. No, my barbies were corny they stayed outfits. They didn't have other outfits had to build them. A Dream House I wasn't allowed to have a house for it. Because I guess my parents thought you can have thirty seven barbies, but if you have if they have any. If the BARBE's own any property, then you're too busy, so I had to build them I to take scarves and clothes and build them little tents, so my barbies look like they live with a little refugee camp most of the time. You're Barbas was hippies. They are here your. We love to see Arby's. We're a little bit burning. Man, yeah! Right. was trading shit for like can. I can try to. This dirt for. The sports car as a lot. I love it, so this products available for kids to design and print out Barbie outfit. The Ad said something about it being real fabric and I figured something. We got a pack and printed a bunch of twenties on them, and they looked right, and they do. It quite feel like real money, but they didn't feel like paper. You would use you know like from printer. The old twenties didn't have the color change things, so we didn't need to worry about that. Plus at this point, we're used to new twenties so an old one feeling a little different. Different didn't freak people out. We made it look worn. seriously. All that should that they did in the wire to stain money is hello real. He says in parentheses. uh-huh, and then my cousin, who looked like an older than she was, would buy cartons of cigarettes from the gas station, and would sell out of our trunk or trade cigarettes for Weed and sell that this was very reliable hustle for about a year until people got so used to new twenty s at the old one started tripping them up by then. We were old enough to move onto armed robbery so fuck almarga. Well by God. This took a turn. Armed robbery. City. Liked discovering this in real time with you. Go. Like that. I love the he has emailed an entertainment podcast and been like. Hey, please don't use my name. 'cause like I'm just not sure about some of the statute of limitations and we think he's just GonNa. Talk about some little counterfeit Martin any bullshit, and then he's like. And then we had guns, and we're robbing people, Terry. What and like, but I will say this about. He trusted me enough to semi this from a real email account like I would never snitch on mobile body, and honestly I might just delete this email after we record this show, so I have no record of where it came from so just in case any phase listening, they can call your girl. I am going to delete the email. You can call me looking for teddy because I. Don't know where yet okay. No, and now we never know. We don't know him protect Teddy. Boss, okay, if all, we know Ted be lying. Ted Lying this all the lives so. That's true. Maybe he's one of those little like halfway. Criminals whose like Dang this Barbie Money? Story makes me look Kinda soft better. Throw in some armed robbery at the end. To be a character witness. Add Teddy try. It wasn't man. He was A. Man! He ain't never. Use with this armed robbery in here. My crazy and I love you. All right, guys. We'll be back after a break for some non scam advertisements. From. All right and we're back, and it's time for historic hoodwinked my favorite segment of the show, where I will regale tawny with a historical wings, and she will interrupt as she pleases freely with opinion and questions and whatever she likes. She is a queen. So. So tiny. Abbas. We're talking about Don Le Apprai-. So dumb. The prey was a multi level marketing an infomercial google ru honey. He sold packages. That would teach people to make money or any other number of things that simply did not work. His infomercials were so familiar. They were buried by David Letterman and Saturday night live. All eventually came to halt in two thousand eleven. When La-, pray was convicted on. Charges of fraud curious conspiracy. Money Laundering. Arrested and indicted, he allegedly scammed more than fifty million dollars from at least two hundred twenty thousand people from two thousand, four to two thousand seven. So. ooh Wow. I'm trying to think Donald Pray, was he? No, he wasn't a data. I'm sorry I look out right now was maybe before our. Before our like real, you know cognitive cognitive time is afterward I'm trying to say like before we were old enough to be watching letterman and stuff right. I'm looking him up now, and he's to do like the greatest vitamin in the world and making money secrets. He was popping in the nineties in the the nine nine in the two thousands as cash money would say Donald Pro scam in front of nine nine in two thousands. He's a Gimme cashier. I won't give it back. Yes, style oppressing. Somebody needs to remake. Remake one of his commercials with that. Girl you look at what's open while come on now. While we're. Once, you open that crash. Cash. That's right. That's what this girl you look at good. What's your open cast? Use a big woman what to open that cash ship Commie. Reach Daddy when you opened. We love you already. So. laprairie moved to fix. When he with his family when he was a child in nineteen, eighty eight, he married Sally Redondo. Redondo to do have some money to do. Our Redondo beach and two years later, the peer started A. Business called unknown concepts. Let me tell you something about scammer names. What for business? Watch your beat nece? Yes, I'm saying business. Your Business is called unknown concept's. which I do of here. Is Unknown. Don't worry about what we do over here on. It is not known. You. Don't need to have a concept of we do is known like what you're not even trying to make the sound legitimate like right. Scams Inc.. A real business like something that's going to garner some Kinda. Trust in the public, but anyway the Attorney General's office charged the couple with violating the States Consumer Fraud Act, and obtained a consent judgment permanently, assisting or participating in any credit services from engaging so basically they. Were trying to read. This is very complicated a law language, but to break down to layman's terms. They said Y'all violating the Fraud Act and you can no longer engage or participate in any credit services. Because you're basically being deceptive is so unknown concepts which really seemed like. Yeah judge I I'm not okay, but may I. Please Start Up my new organization which is called? Unintelligible Dreams. That has nothing to do with credit, we think. We have a new business. It's called vague. Incorporate it and it has nothing to do with anything. I really thing so please let us the judge said you cannot cause in credit repair. You have to be able to run people's credit scores, so people do have to trust you with a bit of personal information, and this is why you know a lot of credit bureau. kind of online liaisons got sued, and a lot of people got restitution because when they got hacked, they released a lot of people's personal information and. And you know free credit card calm. A lot of places exist online. I'm not saying it was free credit but this is a common practice. We all use these sites to check our credit, so they came up with unknown concepts, which was like yeah, put your credit information here. We got we don't make sure is one eight, hundred, eight hundred. That'll go score right eight hundred. We're GONNA. Make sure as a hundred. The judge, said you're. Nobody's credit I always get it confused with. I get confused. With sat scores I think they're both eight. Hundred is what you're shooting for. A used to be sixteen, but then they lowered it because everyone ida this at's I. Think like a twelve hundred was the best you could get. So they were like. Yeah, we want Chris to your credit. Scores Andre Three. Thousand okay, so just information. And we will check credited. So the judge ruled y'all can't take nobody's credit no more. y'All doing fraud with their information, right? Lest? They be deterred. Though okay. The defendants were ordered to pay a civil penalty in more than five thousand dollars restitution to complaint. Then they moved on and started selling thirty six page booklets, explaining how to recover a federal. Home Association Insurance Refund after paying off a home mortgage i. don't even know what that is. I might be interested in Fha loan. And fha loan as I, understand it as a type of loan that you can get if you're a first-time homebuyer, and it has a very low down payment, and I think it means you can usually secure a low interest rate, so they're trying to teach people how to pay off the house, but then get an assurance. Back Somehow yeah, they say you can get in our because your mortgage insurance. Interesting? I don't understand that fully, but it sounds like fraud and scams. So his infamous infomercials, which took off shortly after he began unknown concepts, a vague incorporated, his trademark sales pitch was by placing tiny classified ads in the newspaper I'm able to make fifty thousand dollars a week from my tiny one bedroom apartment. Laprairie began broadcasting the making money show with Don Apprai- pray in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two, who okay. We were very young during this time. So for years. That's where all these instagram make five thousand dollar a day people came from. This is the father. This is the L. Ron Hubbard of those mother fuckers. Yes, this guy knows on Mount. Rushmore of INFOMERCIAL scammers. Okay, you thought miracle. Spring waters been around honey, but my man Don He paved the way. He is a leader in the movement of Chicanery and I stand. So, For years, the show was ranked him. On the ten most frequently broadcast cable infomercials, the principal product was his money, making secrets, a package of booklets and tapes and common sense tips for placing ads. The product was sold through the new strategies whose parent company was tropical beaches soon after purchasing the package `buyers would be telemarketing by sales representatives who offered additional psychic dating entertainment and chat, nine hundred lines plus free websites that together cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars so after you bought the whole booklet about how you can advertise newspapers and make fifty thousand dollars from your one bedroom apartment. which also like nobody questioned on the program was like how you thousand dollars a month and you live living in a bachelor. Had IT. Yeah, what a fifty would if? You make fifty thousand, but then you have to pay forty eight thousand two something. WHO's, but you know what he said unknown. And that's what he means by unknown concepts. You will never know. an also. You'll never know the concept of where all this money goes. Supposedly honestly, he sounds like an honest man. He was being truth lease at unknown. You're not GonNa know you never will not, and I, appreciate that a k yeah a lot of this I mean as I am a fan of this show a lot of this of you. As the more you listen, you're like well. The scammer spelled it all right out for you. I am a scam. This is fraud. This is crimes. I'm going to do. Unto you and you still said okay. Let, Iran in. We know what it's legitimized by television and in the nineties, television was a legitimate source for information. We didn't have twitter. We didn't have any other resource to you know. Get our information from I mean. Look at all the protests that have been happening. If we had just only had the news Bra, we would not know what the fuck was going on in America. Because I've Seen News, reporters strata lie with a like. Do a voiceover on a video where I have is I have retinas and I'm looking right. Ladies People's engage. I have to tell you I just saw. I just saw a news reporter, and I don't need to put her name out there because it really was a slip of the tongue lacy, this news reporter was reporting from a protest, and she turned around and said you know what's interesting is that it is all types of people out here, not just color people, but white people, too. I'm like I did not just here colored people on the news right now. The news has to go that the television. Throw it away. Throw it in the threat. That's like win. Kobe Bryant passed away God bless. And? The woman was on the news I won't say her name either. She said the Los Angeles makers. As oh LA LAKERS LA make. A. In. What I was talking about was in a protest. I'm watching with my pupils. My Retinas right that elated not dilated And I see the police shovel, old white man with a cane to the ground, and this police officer said. This whole white man fail. Video playing. We've no. Signed Kippur. What? Also Y, are you shouting about the thing that just happened? If I saw an old white man fall in front of me, my words would be. Are. You okay, do you need help? Not Look at here. This old white men has fallen. Michael. You the town crier there clearly lying there like we came here to report the news. Okay, we can help. We cannot help anybody So like we're saying. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two like television was as viable resource why stereotypes are so bad. It's why everything you know has been so rough for especially Jackson. Baby boomers because television was the only information people. So they create the narratives at that point and that cable wasn't really popping at this time. So all we had was what we were spoon fed by these networks. So something that you see on TV looks legitimate at this time period, which is why I love going back in the past, because I love scammers and I, love talking about the scams of the current. You know moment but I also love talking about how we've evolved from that, because obviously now no one's running scams on television because it's just too hot. You do not instagram twitter. Email people from fake email addresses. You try to tap into personal more closely related systems to them. You don't just get on television. Be like unless you miracle Spring Water, which does still air every night at three am on adult, swim or actually bt. And I love it I almost or to some Peter Popov's miracle, spring. Water was I. Should Twenty Twenty. What can air let me put some variables? Bring water out here. I mean at the very least you'll be hydrated, right? That's that's bag Jesus or or you know somebody adjacent. Johnny. Johnny Hey sues you know somebody so. And also they're. Calling people who have purchased these patches to be like hey, now advertised for these other businesses that we have and at the time nine hundred chat nine hundred chat lines were still popping Chow I. Thank God that in my acting career never had to get on TV and be like we are hates him. We is sow. Hor Nino Hey hey nasty men. We haunted call less now like I bet you everybody that we are eighteen is a strong thirty seven, and that ain't no shade. I'm proud of y'all. Mike Hi! I'm proud of the way it's done now where I feel like women are more empowered. Yeah, in some instances in some circumstances there definitely still being exploited, but I'm just saying. I see more and more stuff. That's like no. I WANNA be a Webcam girl I'm I'm taking control of actual content and I'm selling this purposefully as opposed to back when we were young, and we'd just see those girls on like a on a billboard dressed in nothing holding a super soaker that just says come on down and by attractor. Whatever the fact that I'm like. Oh, no, they was! They were looking at the bill. You see as the billboard like Hail Hail. Like now. To, while the pictures. They showed up and they thought it was active drive and they was like wait is. Like. This is lost dental flow. And now you know only fans, which only fans starting to be shady. 'cause after celebrities got involved now they're trying to boot off the sex workers who made the website what it is and I do not fucking appreciate that Shit have friends who are sex workers like fuck that shit like let the sex workers get their coins and a love women being able to get they money from home by. By being fine, okay, I love it. I remember I always joking college about how like it should didn't work out I. WAS GONNA become a stripper Dan I saw stripper strip and I say oh, bitch, the are also y'all Gabby Douglas I was like. Hey, dude, this This is real talent here. I was the whole happening and I just had to get out here and shake my ass. Look a little sad, but y'all are strong like I can't do this. Yeah, it really thwarted me. I was like way much strength involved like strength beauty charisma. You've got to be able to talk to everybody in. Have the energy like talent and I'll care which I'll say. Because a lot of us have gone to strip clubs the thing we still want to be shady toward strippers I. Don't believe in hunting. Get that many anyways. Let them have it I don't even wear high heels walking around on the earth, let alone. Can you imagine dancing or being on pole with them? I tell every costume designer foot ten, and I never learned to walk in heels and I. Just accept my little sad payroll loafers and my feet don't hurt. I can't I just I would be a mess. Your your flash buried. I try to just you begin fashions and I. Try to make it sound like I'm our because I have a tall person or Allah head I'm five feet tall. Every time I take everybody. Did you look good? Why are you so sure what you mean you heard about boys? You thought I was told that game. That is a scam and that's a scam that you're running. You're doing well so obviously. They up sell these people after they bought this package in the. These we are ads goes on all this other shit, but they would rarely even received what they paid for. Many customers complained that the opportunities were minimal, and they were being ripped off in nineteen, ninety four prayer was forced to pay the state of Arizona Forty five thousand dollars for unemployment and withholding taxes that he neglected to file in Nineteen ninety-three in nineteen, ninety, four and nineteen, ninety nine pray had filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy on behalf of himself. News strategies tropical beaches. Duffin, Media Don's making money and other businesses and the National Reminder Service which I don't even what is that? These businesses, the Gee, what is no, but I love these these businesses. The names Don gave them are just delicious, so his filing listed his assets the National Reminder Service. is almost like specific like uncertain times or whatever you know unknown vortex that one is like too big, but like the reminder company. I'm like okay I. Guess I know what you do, but I still don't under. So we here to remind you nationally, I love it out. Even know what it means I. Never Know What Don the price businesses mean and I love it, so his filing listed assets of nine million dollars in liabilities of twelve point, five million in nineteen, ninety, seven the internal. Revenue Service issued a lean of nine hundred fifty seven. Thousand Dollars Excuse, me. It's nine, hundred, Fifty, seven, thousand, nine, hundred and nine dollars and forty nine cents against Donald and Sally La- pray for failing to pay delinquent taxes so now he's in trouble, and that's where you don't WanNa. Be because Uncle Sam is the pettiest motherfucker alive. I don't know how Uncle Sam. Does it It's crazy because. I've talked about this before, but people lobby the IRS to make sure that they never are funded enough to be able to audit billionaires, so if you're in the middle class or the upper middle class like don the pray, you are going to get that smoke, because they can't come after the Jeff Bezos of the world because they're offshoring their money, they have money in too many different places. It's too expensive to audit them. WHICH IS WHY BUCK BILLIONAIRE SKIES? They're not paying proportionally what you're paying in taxes they don't have to, and we don't have the physical capabilities to make them so instead of going out to the prime. They said well you on TV. whiz TV grow and less check I. Didn't get my coins. But all right guys. We're going to take a quick break for some non scam. Advertisements defiantly not brought to you by don the prey scare. US. All right guys we're back. So don enters. The vitamin were done his busy. So now you said you know what so many things we're not doing advertisements from home anymore. We're selling vitamins, which is also another scam because health industries are a scam, guys. We all know that when you're born. It's like this weird trap where you're like damn I gotTa Dash Someday I have wanted to be alive. Lab. And I don't know what comes after so I want to stay alive. You know so. Health is one of the biggest scams in every industry. Because you're trying to buy more life in to a certain extent, you feel better about yourself. When you drink some grass, I've drank wheat, grass and. BLUEGRASS and any type of grass. They tell me to drink us. Okay, a scratchy throat, but I feel alive. So. Don started selling vitamin. I take a handful of pills every day that I got from a woman who I met in Santa Monica and she had glowing skin, and I said I want this life and I still take those pills because I i. Look. Looks like blonde girl, thanks but I think it did. But. No harm and keeping it up. Make! Here's what I have to say. Bye, and what's the harm? I'm doing by swallowing as little. Just I'm putting a little too much. Right. You Know No. I actually agree with you. I also have to say that. Even though a lot of health stuff is a scam. Placebo effect is real, so if you feel better about the way that having your life if you feel good about the crystals you buy if you feel better when you wave some sage up in your house hunting, because I be doing that honey then it's worth what you paid. Because really what you want is calm and peace and things that reduce stress and cortisol, and even if it's not directly from the product that you've purchased. If you're see I'm I'm a scammer because I'm over here, trying to convince you to buy. What's interesting is your scammer, but you're up in this instance. You're proud mark like. You accept your Martinez, but only in this instance, because otherwise your view race camera all multifaceted. You're right, and I I have been duped. I have been scan, which is why I love scams and I can love them from both sides because I've been hurt by scams, absolutely and I wanNA keep you guys from being hurt, but also like there's some scams on I'm like this ain't so bad, so he started selling vitamins eventually. Eventually authorities started to notice one of the newer projects. The greatest vitamin of the world customers were being told that they could earn commission checks of thousand dollars or more by getting people to buy vitamins through customize websites that sold Internet advertising packages so now he's just combining scams. He was telling people to buy newspaper ads and he was sending them advertisers, and now he's like sell vitamins, and also seldom on the Internet. I love it, so according to federal prosecutors, the marketing was mostly ineffective in full of pop up banner ads, which in the nineties. If you've got a pop up, it will ruin your computer. That's before we had. Max and Max kind of been the most fortified when it comes to viruses, so you got a HP or desktop like honey. Those pop-ups were yeah. You had a gateway. You address road. That's the rhyme we. Got A gateway. You gotTA throw it away. Rhinos knows a gateway. You got two years out of that base before every pop up is coming up like Peterson large man. Just put it into trey. Yeah then it's just that it's just a doorstop. So in two thousand five, the Food and Drug Administration cited the entrepreneur for his claims that his vitamins were for diseases like diabetes stroke Heart Disease Insomnia Cancer and I thrive is warning him in a statement that his products were not generally recognized as safe or effective, so not only were they not effective like. These my Keogh people. Also you're trying to turn to many diseases. You can't just be like a map. He'll works. Diabetes Rashes, eggs, some Ma, a restless leg syndrome You got corneas. You've got cataracts guy a bad tooth. You I like you can't work everything. Elaine. I feel like that's the hallmark of a fake. That's a hallmark of a fake miracle. Cure right because like you look at aspirin. Aspirin cures one two three things. Maybe they'll be like. Does your head hurt does a small thing in your body hurt are? You may be having a small heart attack. A choose. But. Hey you're. Don't even go to the doctor. You have a chill hard just like Alma heart. Go have some Bayer just like a whisper taken out. Right. But like all these miracle, ones try to Oh my. God you know what I actually remembered. My husband and I once we were in Ecuador and he got food poisoning, and this is a small tangent. Dear readers, but He got food, poisoning and the people we were staying with were oh well. We have this stuff that we can give you you have. have to mix it really carefully and here. You should read this binder to make sure you're okay taking it. And they were these chilling, Ecuadorian hippy people, so I was like okay. I'll read their little hippy cure, or whatever and it was that Emma Ms Stuff. You know that like mirror gas solution. Whatever that they say cures like autism, but you're drinking bleach. And I was like. No, no, no, what does the battle said? CLOROX, because. Right why how come something that's supposed to cure? He ate a bad piece of chicken and he's taken a drug supposedly that cures autism. What is he had a little bit of autism while he was eating chicken, he couldn't get rid of both okay. Yes, it says lie saw on the now now. They say you know these people are gonNA come for you. You cover you with that little bit of autism remark. You're right. I have to formally apologize right now for that remark. Autism. And there's nothing wrong with being autistic. A lot of brilliant people are autistic in. We need to stop treating it like it's this horrible thing. You know And we need to not feed people bleach to right and we need to also vaccine children, because that does not prevent autism being an anti vaccine, guys. We're not anti Baxter's I. Know a few episodes. Go I said I hadn't had a flu shot, but I'M GONNA. Get One have shamed me into it. I got all the rest of my vaccines those live coming from me. So. Good the company failed to substantiate the following advertisement claims. They said our company will pay thousand dollars up front or two hundred a month for the rest of your life every single time you get twenty new people to Trier mazing vitamin. You know and this is something that link this is language. That's really deceptive when it comes to the type of people would probably participating in the scam where people may have lower and calm. Had People, my family take really poor deals because they wanted cash upfront but the interesting thing here is that they're saying two hundred a month forever own thousand dollars right now. And so of course, people are GonNa, quite two hundred bucks a month. Forever is more money. Go with that but each week. They said that they pay you on all. The revenue earned the week prior. This is the easiest way in the world to start. Dinner is generating a thousand dollar checks over and over again. This damn sense. They said our top people have made thousands of thousands of dollars doing this, which very much sounds like donald trump like Kanye put a real number on each month you get just a hundred new vitamin clients. Just one hundred. You know, chill hundred new vitamin clients. And we pay you five thousand dollars bonus. You'll hardest get one hundred people to buy anything when you were just a person. Rat. You get one hundred people to just like. Follow you on social media. Don't have something specific. You're like to convince one hundred people to do. You can't even get a hundred people on e Vite to rsvp function. You can't get one hundred people to come to You know a ladies night at a club. Where like the drinks are half I early like they're still going to be, you're going. GonNa! Get like fifty eight before eleven at the club can't get hundred people. A y'all thought we will get. Vitamins in the nineties, so they told all these lies, and his business was raided by the US Postal Inspection Service by the beginning of two thousand eight, his greatest vitamin of the world sites were no longer functioning, so they did an investigation on my guy. On the day he was supposed to appear in court for his arraignment. He was found near a local fitness center in bad physical condition, apparently living inside of Jim for a day and a half before he was found, he went, underwent emergency surgery and was arraigned at the hospital. Leading up to his death, laprairie posted what seemed to be a farewell statement on his website, saying that he was left to fight a battle that will for sure destroy what energy I have left inside. I mean he was charismatic. He was a great scammer. I guess. He decided to hide out from the feds in a gym. He went to twenty four hour fitness and he was like I'm GonNa. Be here twenty four hours. Guess we. What did he die? I haven't told you what he died yet. He actually this is the only bummer guys we try to keep it light fair, but a don. The Pran fortunately took his own life in prison. so just get that out of the way but he added I tried to create the best product on earth paid out. Millions made very little China make it a success. I have been accused of something I. Did not do I did not have the perfect company, but never once did I allow one thing to be done. That will violate any law. He concluded by thanking his supporters and telling them to never stop dreaming. He has one commercial on Youtube. That's is last commercial, and all the comments are just fans of Don. The Price Dan had a following. Okay, Don Excuse me. He had a following. He had a lot of people who loved him. He was essentially a cult leader and their charismatic. I've looked them up online. He just has a kind of face that you would kinda trust because you know what it is. When you're in a position where you're desperate, meter is high. We Sam the show and you may not be making a lot of money. I capitalism is fucked. As. We've seen over the past few weeks America's been scammed by our government by our political leaders. They're giving more fifty percent of La's budget right now. which we all emailed and call, but we don't know if it's going gonNA work. It is going to the LAPD fifty four percent. Mind you they. They are outfitted like they are going to war in these protests, meanwhile our healthcare. Healthcare providers and professionals don't even have P p. they're covering themselves in trash bags to treat corona virus like we have fucked up priorities in this country and we everything's fucked up when it comes to where our money goes and I. Look at on and I've looked at his face, and he looks like a working class guy. He looks like a guy who's been through shit. Could easily see why people would look at him and be like he's one of us, and he's trying to help us scam the system and get rich too because I. Don't think anybody looked at unknown concepts and thought there was a legitimate business they were like we're entering a scam business and we have to. Yeah they want to join the scam a little bit which I don't blame some people for they've been working hard to hard and not being rewarded, so then they want. They want something that seems easier, not being rewarded, not being respected by this country, so I absolutely understand why people would We'll go. And Join. The national reminder. Give reminders nationally. That makes sense. I love that name I absolutely. I think it's fantastic guys. This is always the saddest portion of the show. This is what I'm going to have to let. My Sis Tani go, but before she goes to live excellent life. I just adore everything about you, Tony, you have no idea scammer of the wing so Tommy. We're just GONNA talk about an infamous charlatan. That is worthy of our praise. and the scammer of the week this week. Okay, so have to caveat this because the scammer of the week this week. I don't like the scammer. At, but he scammed somebody that we love. A black clean. o Oh no Antonio Marriott Wilson. Is Con artist who targeted Jennifer Lewis. Of blackish you better get out of your waves, you absolut. Absolutely lacked persons are t, mama and grandma. Since I was a lab Jenifer Lewis and they write. The Queen of her Chin in the air. And the Annunciation Act Tate. HOW DARE YOU ANTONIO? You will hear her consonants and vowels. I. Love Her. What the land due to her with. My Fair Lady isn't it was movie where they teach there? Why lady had a talk as she British. Yeah! The that's some Henry Higgins They waved on. Life or whatever the fuck like she could never, she could never okay honey. Nobody has a grasp on consonants. Like, our queen. And and I am hearing you. What you're saying is what you're saying is we need a reboot of my fair lady with Jennifer Lewis in the lead and do the dishes and honestly we need it the cut. The the culture needs it so Antonio actually pled guilty a few weeks ago to a federal wire, charged for conning Lewis and three other women to invest in a fake business, and this is from Ktla in Los Angeles. The Santa Monica man tricked three hundred eighty seven thousand dollars out of these women Wilson that's Antonio is fifty seven. He worked at La, Finish Jim in Los, Angeles where he met Jennifer Louis. Louis States that Wilson conned fifty thousand dollars from her following a three month, romantic relationship with him, and falsely convinced her that he was an Oscar winner, and that the money was an investment in film project. So. Way, way way way, wait so in addition to stealing her money. He also like dirty John Her like. He conned her into a romantic relationship to. Yes and I listened to an interview with Jennifer what she was saying that she was very busy at this time. Obviously, she black issues preparing. To be an honorary graduate at a university and give a speech their graduation. She was very kind of overwhelmed in this part of her lifestyle at honey's working. She's booked and busy, and she's a queen and honestly Antonio I. Have Tim for the two good Dick? Because you know it's just? It's just right there. Really pipe in it. You know because otherwise. How are we getting so distracted? Also like Oscar winner I love Jennifer. Oscar winner, but now he working at L. A. Fitness. Like what he did, he win an Oscar for stance. Maybe, that would be a one. Oh? Four. Okay. One four film girls. You know and that's not to say. She was busy to what was busy. Defend my going I'm like this say you can't get to a certain statue in Holly Hollywood or get to a certain position or make a certain amount of money in that can change actors to pay aggressive taxes on what we make. We don't get. Taxes pulled out by the government. SUNG-CHOL SAM comes for us for five six figures at the end of the year like it's not to say that you can't go from having the coins to not I mean. We saw that with one of the guys from the Cosby who. It actually was fortuitous, but someone took a picture of one of those guys from the Cosby's bagging groceries at the trader Joe's trying to make fun of him, but then ended up Tyler Perry hired him for new work in the acting industry, so it actually was a blessing, even though they was trying to be a devil. But you know it nothing that we do a stable so. That was union work. The brother Perry hired him for I'm just say that and that's how we can go in. We can't go into brother parallel. When you do an episode never. A. Da I don't. Miss the pair honey I'm trying to live out here and breathing my life. Trying to get by? Sorry to bring it up, continue, please. So. He engaged in a romantic relationship with three other women via the bumble dating APP and convince them into giving him money to invest in a software company called second life and sound design company called Ultimate Fx now these unlike What was vague enterprises? Don, Unlike his name's least sound legitimate when I hear a sound design here, ultimate fx I'm like that sounds like sound when I hear second life I think software. Good names. But obviously both were Shams Jennifer Lewis sued the gym and settled out of court for thirteen thousand dollars, according to Daily Mail in addition to falsely claiming because basically what she was saying in her interview was that he got the job the Jim because he had targeted in for Lewis because he had found out that she worked out at this gym, so then he winning membership because he was trying to get next to her. So in addition to falsely claiming to have won. Academy, Award Wilson also claim to be an Oxford University professor and a US Navy. Seal, Bra, you were. Have you gave yourself a real accomplished life for working to elevators? No shade if you work in La fitness, it's no shade in like. Saying. You'd be Oxford it in London and you were professor, and you're US Navy seal. It just would seem like you have enough. other skill sets not necessarily warrant working at a gym, right? It's like he added to many things and I. Know You talked about this a lot like scammers? They just be like the giving you too much information. Because why is he going to be like all these things and then like I? It's just too much. It's like Oh, I'm also the Prince of Monaco and my dad is Desmond Tutu and I invented post its. Also have sailboat what? It is. Our things about a man to write I've dated for three months I don't know these things, so we'll use the money to pay for credit card, debt and personal expenses. He had previously served four years in prison for tax, evasion and wire fraud, so he's a career scammer. He faces up to twenty years during the sentence Antonio. Do not applaud the scam. I know you're scammer of the week. But. It's not for a good reason you scanned queen. It Ain't right. It's not right and I know that brings lacy, no joy to not support one of her good scammers, but You pushed us too far. I'm deployed this week not this week. Not You're not gonNA mess with a black area, not a matriarch this week, sir. A pillar of the community. The and I made sure to pronounce all of those Yes but community. By pronounced every continent. You heard. M's. In Community I'm going to add some more continente APO- okay. Like no, I can't believe you. Antonio you Ain Right. You Ain't right. Don't Appro- and on that note. We have reached the end of another episode as always guys if you are doing armed robbery. You WANNA email us. We will never say oh. Name, and we will delete you before the feds come. Scam got pod Djamil, DOT COM, if you want to reach out to us, got his pod on twitter and on instagram. If you WanNa, find me in whatever antics I'm up to D. I. V. A. L. S. D.. Lacy on all platforms, guys, tiny nuisance in a hot new NETFLIX show would Steve Corral and the girls and the late Fred. Willard who is so hilarious, so this is your last time to see him girls. I'm pretty sure space force on Net Blix. It is out now and tawny. Where would you like to be down? And what else would you like to plug? Oh, my Lord I'd like to found safe in my house, and I'd like you to all be found there as well just save an inside because the world is crazy and bad right now. No, but thank you Thank you, Lacey. This was delightful You can find me online I'm at Toronto Newman, or you can put tawny newsome and there's no other ones you'll find me My hair will be different all the time, so if you don't that you. Maybe you won't find me and then you'll learn some things. But. I don't know I feel crazy, but this was really nice to talk to you and to and to learn about. Some. Cool hoodwinked also Yo. Is this racist on Ear Wolf Guys? If you enjoy the fact, that I'm black on here and you like hearing about black themes or want to become more educated about not even just black things, it's also hosted by enter t who is a Asian men of color. If you WANNA, hear their amazing show on your wolf US racist as well. Sorry Taty I'm doing all your blood's A. Better energy than I do I've been at so funny I've been so looking forward to this episode with you and then I came on and I was like. The world, but but no, so thank you for. Your, this is a testament to black women rallying for y'all guy 'cause our should is on fire, but we are still making this content for Y'all because we love you and we're here for you, so go ahead and leader for us honey, and specially when we can do it together. That's the whole reason. Here is for Ms Lacy for y'All's Queen. This is one of. Read shows. You are doing it. You are keeping me entertained on a lot of airplane rides, so thank you, thank you. I love you. Guys, please if you have any coins to spare, even if you don't if you can just share information about black lives matter. They're sharing all the places that you can donate to help. What's happening right now? The Minneapolis refund like we are really trying to make some change. 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Twilight Zone 2019: The Blue Scorpion

The Twilight Zone Podcast

49:54 min | 1 year ago

Twilight Zone 2019: The Blue Scorpion

"You're traveling to another dimension. Mentioned not only have cited sound but of might. Journey. Wondrous land boundaries of immagination. That's the signpost up ahead. You're next stop. The twilight, so. Tonight on the twilight zone podcast. We will put ourselves to the test and see whether we can resist the law of the blue scorpion. I'm your host Jeff Elliott, and I'm joined by two friends, the show tonight faced is my old friend irregular, brandy. How you doing tonight? I n doing very well, Tom how're you? I'm doing okay doing okay. Looking forward to getting into this one, but at say it's not just the two of us tonight. We have a bit friend, a friend of the show for some time, but maybe not actually on the air, I'm not as Lacey Lacey. How are you doing and doing great? Thanks for having me. You very welcome to be here. So Lacey, we've kind of known each other awhile now maybe not in terms of speaking, all the time and that kind of thing but you have been listening to the twilight zone podcasts for some time. And I appreciate that, but you're, you're no stranger to podcast in yourself, are you can you tell? Maybe a bit about what you've done in the past. Yeah, I come from a public radio background in the states. So I worked at a couple different stations and produced podcasts on everything from the arts to crime. And now I work at CBS news, produced the podcast for CBS this morning growth. So, so this, this new twilight zone experience. Have you been enjoying it so far? Yeah, it's been really exciting to have it be new and tackle issues of today. I love Jordan Peele. So that's been fun as well to see him every episode. And I think it's a good job. I think as you've talked about on the podcast, a lot of the lessons are bit on the nose. And I've read that criticism online as well. But I think they're handling important topics and topics at still can start discussions, even if you kind of know where the sodas going so I've, I've really enjoyed it so far goods goods any favorites. Episodes. I love replay, and I really enjoyed not all men and this episode we're talking about tonight. I'm excited about also goods goods now, Brown's the refresh my memory. What was the last one we talked about the last one that we talked about was the wonder pinned cry? Okay. And that was one. We were a little bit mixed on so. What's he what have you thought of the show since then? Well, I have enjoyed the season. I can't talk about not all men because it triggered some really terrible memories for me. And so I cannot go there. I mean I, I deal with it. But I can't I can't publicly go into how I felt about that one. But I thought it was extremely well done because it reminded me of mini situations that, I have been in and very many women have been in, and it's, it's all about reminding people you can choose your behavior. So I thought that was really an important episode actually everything that they've touched on so far, I have found to be important in today's society and not just today's society. These are just common human problems that had existed since. Men and women began. Humanity began. I just I have enjoyed I may not have always enjoyed every moment of every episode but I have enjoyed the season overall growth group. Okay. Well tonight we have we're almost at the end. I can't believe it almost at the end. It's fun. The second. Yeah, it really has really has the second to last episodes put, I guess we'll get into a you're ready to go. Let's do it. Yes. First broadcast on the twenty eighth of may twenty nineteen written by Glen Morgan. I'm directed by Craig William McNeill, when Jeff stalk finds his father dead at home by suicide. He then comes into possession of the instrument that death seemingly, mystical gun called the blue scorpion on the bullet with his name on it. While initially reluctant to stay in possession of the scoping begins to exert a strange control over Jeff who becomes. More and more infatuated with it as his life begins to crumble around him. Jeff's behavior becomes more and more erotic and with a multitude of Jeff's around him, who is a named bullet really meant for now. I always like to start with the Jordan. Peele opening the ration- now on the second watcher this episode I kind of went back to it to see how it ties into this story and how relevant it seems to be now. I love the fact that sit in living room. Obviously I really like that. But he says in it, and he's talking about the character of Jeff Jeff stalk a man who holds a doctorate doctorate in anthropology, but possesses little true knowledge of himself. I know I was a little bit confused about went when you see how the story plays out while you know what little what knowledge of himself is he lacking? I think that was a bit confusing to. I think we're kinda dropped into this story, and we don't know much about Jeff's life before the episode begins other than his marriage is falling apart. I so I think that yeah, they're nothing ever really sets up. What, what else was lost in his life or what he finds himself confused by or how he was kinda chosen to be down, this particular path of the twilight zone at first, I thought that's actually kind of typical someone being an expert in a field, and yet not being able to apply that expertise to themselves like psychologists and psychiatrists are often in the same boat. They study human behavior, the way, the brain works, and yet they can't apply that to themselves and they have their own problems that they can't even diagnose or recognize. So I feel like. Because anthropology is the study of human behavior. I think that's part of the reason why he's being pushed down this path because he's, he knows all of these things about behavior, but nothing about his own behavior. And I think that's why it's he so quickly succumbs to the lure I guess of the blue scorpion. So it would introduce to that quite quickly, and I think. You know as as far as openings to twilight zone episodes, go. This one was pretty impactful. You know the way he comes into the he comes into the apartment, and we kinda just see, you know, his dad's like that his dad's killed himself. So it's pretty impactful. Now, the director, this is a guy called Craig William McNeill. When you look down his list of credits. He really doesn't have much. He's directed an episode of the Netflix Sabrina show. And, you know, a couple of things but really not much else. But I just think he's done such a great direct job with, with this episode. I agree. I loved that I guess the coloring of it. I mean, the story opens in the father's house, and you can tell a pack rat, and hold onto everything. So you kind of feel that vibe of the Aira that he was this. Star can performing with all the greats of, of his time. So I feel like you're kind of put in that atmosphere a bit. And then once the blue scorpion is introduced just those really beautiful shots of it. And the light glinting off of it and just making it. Look, so beautiful and tantalizing was really powerful. A lot of those close up shots of it. Honestly, there hasn't been a single episode where I felt like oh well that was poorly filmed every single episode has had just magnificent shots. And one of my favorites of this episode is after his father's funeral. And he's back at his father's house. He's gotten high, and he's listening to be music, and he's in that recliner and we're just getting this very slow progression down the hall into this room. And you can just feel something is building. But you don't know what yet. And. The same thing when the light comes on in the bedroom by itself. And we go with him down the hall, just those moments just so subtly, build tension. And I think that it's just it's brilliantly directed. It's perfect. Don't think felt while well I was gonna tell a lie than actually I was gonna say, don't think I've felt this much tension since replay, but actually thought six degrees of freedom was pretty tense too. But this one's just another great example of it. I think you know, really, really ratchets attention has a strange sort of quality to it some of the angles that they use and the use of music, and so on. Now, we are introduced to the blue scorpion itself. It's very ornate kind of going with disputable handle. It's, it's gold coloured and so on. You know, we'll get onto what this episode is about later on. But I think us and the blue scorpion in this context, you know it's not just eight gone. It's like a mystical kind of object is a pretty small way of tackling a topic like this. So what do you think of this, this part of it lacy just from the start, you can see how ornate it is? And, and he's confused because he says, you know his father's lifelong hippie. He hates guns. I don't know why he would have this, but it really is a beautiful object. And it kind of captivates him from the start. I think just part of the confusion of why it exists. And then they're a unique look of it compared to, you know, most guns you see aren't necessarily as beautiful, you just think kind of the black metal. So I think right from the start you kind of as the viewer and he Jeff himself is John into it, and I think that's the first bit of power. You can see that the object has on must regard one. We kinda land at the blue scorpion doesn't like the doc. It's, it's this sort of aspect. That that's introduced to the story that the police go up in doesn't like to be in the talk. What would you say the significance of that is what, what did you get from the Hino? I'm not one hundred percent. Sure on that. I don't know if it's that it wants to be useful, and it doesn't like to be put away a, let's kind of a correlation that I got from it, but as far as just being afraid of the dark I never quite connected with why that was important. So it just didn't make any sense to me. But this, you know, this has a little touch of the study of animism in it because win Jeff is talking. One of his students about her research project and she's going nuts. Because now she thinks her sneakers are going to be lonely and stuff like that. And so, you know there's that connection made there. But I just thought why would you why would why wouldn't object be afraid of the dark, especially something like a gun? I just didn't quite connect with that. I was honestly confused about that as well. And I watched the episode twice, and I was trying to see if there were any clues, I missed the first time around of why this was to be, and I don't know if it's just kinda pointing to the like brandy, just brought up the animism of it, and it actually has this soul within it. And one of those factors is that it does want to be seen in used. And I think it, it shows that when the blue scorpion has presented to somebody, there's a clear purpose. And so it shouldn't be hidden away and the dark it needs to fulfil. Destiny. I think I agree with that. I think again, you know, I'm not a hundred percent on it, but it's kind of like what, what both of us said, if it can be just locked away and left somewhere than it can't affect people's lives than it does run the risk of I just being forgotten about if it's if it's just put away in a drawer, safe or something like that. But on the other hand, the police Gopi and can go wherever it wants to go. So it just seems the tan Oprah's night when, when it needs to a went someone tries to get rid of it. Then it combs box. I'm not one hundred percent on that one book. If this twilight zone. The show me anything, it's that to so many layers to everything you, can you can go back and kind of see things you've missed before. So I'm looking forward to doing that again. Now, we find that the Jeff's life, I guess, is a bit of a mess. You know, he split from his wife, does not aspect to it. You know, he seems to be all right in his way can so on boot's Santoli, the lore of the blue scorpion is having its effect on an and one of my favorite scenes in this episode is the shooting range scene. It's almost like a seduction scene. You know, he's thought unto really get seduced by the, the blue scorpion, but the, the use of music, the cinematography is very, very interesting in while it was happening the music swells, and just becomes almost overbearing, which I actually liked. And here's this is the strangest thought that I had while I was watching it. If you've seen the movie dread the one with Karl urban guys. There is a scene, which where you see mama for the first time the big crime boss, and she's using slo MO, and she's splashing water in her bath. And it was that same kind of music just this intense. It's build up, and then when he's out of amunition, it's sunny just cuts off and he was, like, whoa. You know, we're all shocked by that. It was it was the it was hypnotize ING. Yeah. Agree he walks in. And at first, there's the loud noises of everybody else shooting at the range beside him. And then as soon as he puts on those sound blocking headphones that brief moment of silence before that music, really picks up. I think I think was really neat as well. And then just the transformation he undergoes you know, he like we've said, as his marriage is falling apart. He his father dies and, and the scene. You kind of see him gained some more power. And I don't know if that was going to, I'm assuming that's kind of speaking to what people feel when they pick up a gun and the power that represents and he's holding this object and he suddenly can do anything with it. And as he shoots it more. You know, he's rolling up. His sleeves is throwing his tie back. You just really see him transform into more. And more confident person after you've seen him quite sad for the, the first part of the episode, I'm on. I think key to this scene on key to the Aleppo. Sewed really is Chris O'Dowd. Is he someone you're aware of much lacy of seen much United seen him in some romantic comedies? He's always kind of the lovable guy that's usually pretty sweet. So, yeah, I really enjoyed him in this as well. I adore Chris O Dowd, because he what am I favored shows of all time, the IT crowd, and I that was the first time I saw him and I have just loved him ever since. And he as I've said before people don't understand that. Comedians most of the time like ninety nine percent of the time, do such good drama. And she maze it in this episode. He absolutely makes us believe he's falling apart. He. Makes us believe the obsession that he has with the blue scorpion. All of these things is just a, a love him so much. Yeah, you believe it and he's going down the downward spiral. But you're still rooting for on. There's something about him that so magnetic, and you just you want the best for him, even though he clearly falling apart. Love you. Chris. Yeah. I mean, I think he's made the move over to the states now because he tends to be more American stuff at the moment, which, which is cool because he deserves that kind of exposure, and you're right. He is a great comedic actor. I think this really shows that he is just a great actor for me, personally. I think this may be my favorite performance of, of the show so far are not saying a lot because I really hold a lot of them and such high regards, it's great what to do as well that, you know, Adam Scott and nightmare thirty thousand feet to show that aspect of himself. Now, we got Chris O'Dowd doing it. I think Seth is it Seth Rogan in the next one is the guy's name. Yeah. Like he's a comedic actor too. So it's really cool that the, the given the actors these comedic actors that this opportunity to. To kind of stretch in this way. So I really, really love what Chris O'Dowd does with this one another seeing that we have later on as the I guess he's really starting to fall apart at this point on they have this meat and whether where the kinda share our planet to share out the marital belongings between obviously, it's not going Jeff's way very well, but he's got he's got the belief scorpion in a bag with him at the time, you know, what's he thinking what, what's he gonna do? What do you think of this scene, brandy, you are worried from the get-go, especially when he says he has a friend, a new friend that is going to make all of his troubles disappear any reaches into the backpack? And you think he's gonna pull out the gun and he pulls out a pad of paper, and you're so relieved he just so relieved. You're like please do not do emerge suicide right now that is does not the resolution I want. And but. He he does become more more frantic throughout the negotiation to the point where he was ready to pull that gun out bright before security came in. He was ready to do that. And luckily I don't know if it was the, the wife walking out. And so she was no longer there to for him to punish or whatever, or whether it was the threat of security, or what have you in. He finally just leaves but it that scene made me very tense. Yeah. It was so nervous the whole time. Yeah. When you use reached into the bag and then he whips out the pad pretty quickly. So you don't know if he's pulling the gun or what, but made me nervous when he has to talk himself, down out loud, kind of that he doesn't need to, to pull it out that he'll be okay. And you can see him that's kind of a testament to his dramatic acting as well. You can really see the tension in him. And how he's visit. Weekly having to restrain himself because he knows how easy it could be to pull out the gun. You know, there's three Jeff's right there. You don't know which one choose, but you there's just so many ways that, that scene could play out that you have to see him physically, calm himself down and just leave the situation. I think what it says to me, I guess, we'll probably got a bit more into this in the Seminole up. Is that the presence of the blue school, Pean was making saintly of any stressful situation, an very fraught situation, not a pleasant wants to be in, but it was making that situation, potentially fatal situation. He really is starting to unravel. Now we see the home, he's kind of playing with the gone pointing out at his neighbor. At the end of the episode towards the end the apps owed. We see. He's outside his wife's address. She's in there with a new partner also named Jeff but Elliott on the episode, they've set up this home invasion angle, where his wife also has gone because there's been a spate of home invasions in the area. So let's just open up the conversation to pretty much anything. Now, am this is our end. And this, this is what happens. The scorpion goes off in the car after Jeff is attacked by the home invade the LA Lacey. What, what do you think of this end? I think that it was kind of an interesting way to end where you you're set up with all these Jeff's that he mates along the way. I mean that scene immediately after you, you. I see the bullet show his name, and then he's going on campus the next day and suddenly, there's Jeff's everywhere the. Jeff is the lawyer and the wife's new boyfriend. The gun shop owner who wants to buy the gun. He's kinda surrounded by them and the home invasion, remark earlier in the episode that you mentioned seems kind of insignificant at the time. The so then when he comes out of out of nowhere that kind of makes sense, then obviously, he, he knows before the police officer says the name that the home invaders name was Jeff as well. I was a little confused by the ending, though, that, you know, he is given this kind of heroes response after he puts an end to these the string of home invasions, but there was never any question of, why was camped out and front of the White House with this gun it, it. So I, I don't know that that was ever fully resolved for me. Yeah. I just wrote it off to everybody was so happy to be alive and unharmed that they didn't care. Why he was there. It just was. I think that was kind of why it was glossed over because quite frankly, he probably will not he, but his being there in the blue scorpion saved lives in this case, because you think of home invasion like being a burglary. It's not because they don't just come in to steal your stuff. They come in to abuse, you intimidate you sometimes rape you. That's what home invasion is. It's terrifying is not just someone sneaking in grabbing stuff and leaving it is aggressive. It is a power move, and it is horrible. And so, you know, but I think at the beginning of the episode it demonstrates when he stops by the house without saying, anything and goes into pick up his mail and the white comes down with the gun how easily she could have accidentally shot him. So, you know, his it's. But I was the thing is that in gonna shout back to an earlier scene, which is the scene where the light comes on in the bedroom, and he goes down, and he sees the gun laying on the bed, and Tom, you may understand this. I don't think lacy will get the reference, but I had a ghost watch moment. I'm just like is there someone standing by the wall that I can't see it, and then the creators of the gun is there and I'm just like ghost, watch anyway? But all the British people will get it. So. He's he says the gun wants to help you. And so the gun helps him and then all of these good things happen to him. So it's the filling its promise in a weird way and then when he gets the gun back. I'm like, oh, no. Don't go down this road. Again. Don't do it. And so I was absolutely delighted and shocked when he threw it in the lake. I was I was so pleased with that. He's just like I don't you've you did your thing. I don't need you get out of here, and then unlike well that thing's gonna wash up on the shore and somebody's gonna pick it up. And sure enough, then it's a couple of kids, also that, that scene where he this is utterly ridiculous, because it's just nitpicky but it's it's true to life where he's you know, he's picked up the gun. He's like, dry firing it. And he point the point sit at his neighbor at set. Tre and I'm like, stop dry firing that gun. You could ruin the firing pin and damage the chamber. That may not be true of a lot of modern, but that is old. Don't do that. But just one of those things where I thought, but yet he doesn't know anything about gun. So of course he would do that. And then you've got the kids at the end picking up the gun, and then they're loading it with the bullet. And then, like, okay, Yep. Yeah, yeah. This is stuff that happens. This is stuff that apple is absolutely happens. Yeah. And that's why I think the ending of not the actual ending the ending of the home invader being killed it kind of reminded me of this kind of kind of accepted notion in society that, you know if there's a bad guy with a gun, you want the good guy with a gun to. So he's able to put an end to this because he is also armed. And if he wasn't armed who knows how this could have gone. So I don't I kind of wonder exactly what the writers are trying to get at in this episode. I think it's one of the ones that isn't as neatly wrapped up some of the other ones, I'm not trying. I can't figure out exactly what they're trying to say are do have an idea bronze. Do you have a source of what the trying to say with this one, I think that they are trying to show and not doing it very in your face, like some other episodes have been purported to do. I think they're trying to show all of the different attitudes towards guns and people's obsession with them, because that's basically what this is about is in general, America's obsession with its guns and why they become so ver Hemans, when there's any kind of hint of regulation being proposed or what have you. And, and also, the idea that if you have a gun, you should have training on what to do with said gun, which is what the NRA used to be about, as being a responsible gun owner. You know, just know how to clean, a gun know how to not keep it loaded while it's in the house, you know, all of those things because there have been so many accidental deaths due to a gun in the home than there have been people who have been saved from a home invasion by someone having a gun. He has like the scene early. In the upper sowed where the wife comes out with a gun, and then she doesn't know how to put the safety on. Yeah. So she has when she thinks it will protect her. But then she you see that she doesn't actually know how to work it. If if you don't mind if I ramble for a moment. Yeah. Because it is one that I've thought a lot about because, as I've said before, you know, this, this new twilight zone, the have been a few times where it's brought up a topic, and I've been like man, and it's not because I don't think the show should be doing it, but I just kind of hate the online noise around it. You know that kind of anger teams to come with it. You know, the have been a few topics where I've kind of pussy footed around a bit. And maybe just try and stick more to the story it self. But this is one way. I don't really feel I can need to because I mean, I've lived in Texas before I add many friends who are going to owners and they took me to the shooting range, and I had a good time. And they were good people. So I'm saying not going to kind of demonize people who've shown me that kindness and by all accounts, very careful with guns and so on. So I'm not saying anyone who's on the other. Side of debate is about pass and just by defaults. And I'm certainly not gonna stick my nose into America's business is and say what they should or shouldn't do. So I guess what I'm saying is, I kinda come to this topic with that respect. Also, ask anyone listening, whatever side of the gun debate you are on. You know, kinda respect where I'm coming from too, because I do notice that this new twilight zone whenever they bring up a topic the responses, always, it's always left. All right, these days. And if you think one way about this, then you're on the left, if you think another way about it, then you're on the right and it does get quite exhausting, because I mean passionately, I don't always really understand that position because these are humanitarian topics to me, not left and right topics. So when it comes to gun laws, you know, my points of. View is in from an American perspective, or a left and right perspective, because, you know, here in the UK, it's never been a left. And right thing, I think, in my lifetime, the have been five mass shootings in the UK, and one was in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight where eight people were killed, and then probably one of the most famous ones was in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and that was the Hungerford massacre with sixteen. People were killed after that one happened as a conservative, government of that time brought in the firearms amendment act, and that ban the ownership of semi automatic guns. And also restricted the use of shotguns with a capacity of more than three cartridges. So that was brought in and then in one thousand nine hundred nine there was another shooting. Only one passengers killed in one thousand nine hundred ninety six it was a very tragic one in school in Dunblane with sixteen children, and a teacher was killed. And after that one again, that can save government introduced the firearms amendment act, which banned all cartridge. Munition handguns except for you know, twenty two caliber single shot guns now. In that year we had an election and then the labor party came in who, who would, I guess, on the left on. They then bands that what was left? Really? So it's always been a both party thing here. The if something happens, then they pull back fair, the with the owner of guns all last one was in twenty ten in Cumbria. So hopefully that's all last that was nine years ago. So I think. The UK in America seem to be fundamentally different in that over there. It's seen by some as part of the kind of fabric of society and people's rights and freedoms where as over here. It's not. And, you know, I'm sure to some grumbles when the laws was changed over here. But on the whole those changes were welcomed. Nobody cares that guns on and nobody misses them. So, you know, again, this isn't becomes an American show though, shouldn't do, but this is just just what's happened here. And I think as a Brit, I'm glad that things are how they are here. Because if I asked myself would this be a better country if gone ownership was more widespread I'd say, no because if to a more guns more people will get shots? You know it's a simple as that. So, you know, yes, some criminals have gone that's still pretty rare. And I think to arm off populace would just mean that ten more criminals would arm themselves because then they would think. That they need to have them, you know, because I, I know police officers who say, if they had to carry a gone, they wouldn't do the job because then, you know, more situations become lethal when they shouldn't be like Jeff go into his divorce meat, and so on. So I mean that's kind of my take on it. And you know if anyone gets angry first of all, you know, chill out. I'm not attacking anyone second amendment rights. I'm just telling you how things are here. You know, this is the truth of life in England, and how it's developed over here. I am you know, American society, British society two different things and what's right, for us made not be right for the people. So, so can see that too, and I do hope America fines balanced that kind of feeds into why I think this is a more balanced episode. Some people will give it credit for because. Yes. Just life is improved by the blue scorpion. The. The episode is knowledge ING that sometimes it can be helpful and sometimes it's going to result in a positive situation. But then when the kids find it sort of signposts than that, but there is also the side too. So this conversation needs to happen. You know it's not a it's not a situation where everyone needs to go behind the, the kind of lines and stay there. It's a situation where that is definitely two sides to. And if you're going to have that one side, then you need to acknowledge the other side to and that about side. What's going to happen to the death of children school shootings, and so on? So, you know, that's kind of where I get, get to, I'm why I think it's actually a more balanced twilight zone than a lot of the critics of seeing Ave. Give it credit for so sorry I've spoken for about ten minutes there. But it it's really one that I've thought about quite a bit. You know what I mean? I think I found it pretty balanced. And in that take as well. I also think it was interesting that, you know, so many times in America when the gun debate is brought up again as after a mass shooting in this episode doesn't even necessarily tackle that specific issue. You know, this is more kind of every day, risks or in this in the case of his life, getting better benefits of guns and society. So I think it's interesting that they don't even take that step further. And they're still so much to say about it. I think that they balances episode just perfectly and the sad thing about living in America today, is that there have been far more. More than five mass shootings just this year and it continues and continues and continues. And there isn't until recently, there has been a ban on even doing any research into the effects of guns and gun violence in our society. That ban was recently lifted and studies. I hope have begun. I pray because the one thing that extremists tend to do is like, where are the facts, will you won't let us find any fats? So how can there be any facts? So now finally, that is changing. I am not here to say that no one should have a gun. My father had guns. He never let us touch them. They were always locked in a gun safe. They were always unloaded because he was a responsible gun owner. We didn't even even when they were unloaded and he was cleaning them, or whatever we didn't ever get to. Touch those guns even to this day, I have never touched his guns, even though he is no longer on the surf I have never touched those guns. So, you know, it was that's responsible gun ownership is keeping your kids away from them and knowing how to use them in knowing what not to do with them. So I'm not I'm not here to say, oh, we're coming for all your guns. But at the same time, we also need to be responsible people. And we need to make sure that Dunn's aren't going into the hands of people who are mentally unbalanced, if we're fair. We're all a little mentally unbalanced. We all have mental problems. It's just like how we all have health problems, and why we don't talk about that more. I couldn't tell you, but that needs to change to. And I think once we focus on these things responsibility, and awareness of the mental state, and actually doing something to help people who are having. You know, more difficult mental problems in just your average day troubles. I think those two things need to come together, and we need to start being more open about this instead of saying, oh, well, now there's been this mass shooting here. Let's talk about gun control. No. Now is not the time it is exactly the time it is always the time. Let's have a discussion instead of shouting at each other. Yeah. No, I totally agree and hearing you list, the, the five mass shootings, and, like brandy said, how we have them far more frequently recently marked the twentieth anniversary of the Columbine school shooting. In one of the things we reported on the show. I work on his that there's been one hundred twenty two people have died in just mass school shootings alone since that. So it shows how nothing has changed, despite the fact that guns are, are in schools in everywhere in society, and I think. This up Assode did a really powerful job of just showing how people view guns, like I talked about that scene at the shooting range where you know he carries himself differently. He feels more powerful just by holding a gun. The kids at the end of the episode immediately start playing like they're a police officer arresting a bad guy on the police officer has this gun. And so he's in charge. And I think it, it really did a great job of showing this kind of gun fetish, we seem to have in society. And, and how we think of things in through a different lens when, in possession of a firearm. Okay, I've got to say, I really loved this episode where at this point in the season, and I kinda thought maybe we'd seen the best of it, and then this came along and it's partially because I think it does walk that line really. Well, if someone says the it's, it's just really saying Nogan's for anyone, I don't agree with that. I think this is saying, let's have that conversation because we're showing you a couple of aspects of this situation here, we need to really talk about it, instead of just saying, you know, people are wrong thrown guns. So I think it does a really nice job of, of balancing that purely on an autistic level. I was just on the edge of my seat throughout. I think it looks gorgeous. It had a great mystery to it. What is the blue scorpion? How's it going to affect his life? And Chris O'Dowd was just the icing on the cake. You know, just maybe my fav-. Performance of the season, so far, I'll have to go back and see how how that plays out puts him final thoughts. Brandy eve said, most everything that I would have said it's for me. Pitch perfect and kudos June the set decorator with the dad's house own my word that was so seventies hippie. I can't even tell you it just it just had this feeling. I mean when you can make me feel something like that with set decoration, well done, directing acting, just Chris O'Dowd. You are a God. So I, I loved this episode and I and I really appreciated the ending I appreciated him throwing off the shackles of the blue scorpion. So to speak at because I didn't expect that. So what, what are your final thoughts on? I guess where does it rank in in the season? Overall for you. I love this episode as well. It's definitely I'm always bad at picking. Favorites of things, but it's definitely one of my one of my favorites I can't say definitively the best, but this is definitely up there. And I think also. It shows kind of this fascination with guns. But then, and I think this was kind of driven home in the conversation. Jeff has with his student, who's writing the paper on animism is that we kind of we do this with other objects as well. You know, we, we put so much power into these objects, we have. And, you know, he's going through a divorce and when the wife is possibly going to take away some of the father's possessions like his favourite tars, and it really shouldn't after the father dies. Jeff puts on his father's shirt, just this attachment, we have two things that own and have around us all the time and, and then I think obviously, they, they drove a further with the guns in particular. But it shows that we really put this much power into so many things we own. And also he didn't mention yet, but the when he when Jeff walks into the shooting range that. There is the episode most unusual camera playing in the background on one of the big screen TV's. Oh, I missed the. So the wife is holding the camera and it, and I think that kind of speaks that also that we have these objects and we give them this power, and, and how much we really I don't put it put an emphasis on these things. And I think that was just a brilliant, little not there weren't many Easter eggs, at least that was the only one I spotted in this episode really. But I thought that was a nice nod to the original and kind of this larger point of how we do things in society, but so really great point, actually, the present the blue scorpion in such a way as to. It's almost like if you want to remove the kind of corn discussion aspect to it's presented as this mythical objects, you know, it can be commentary on just possessions in general and place and so much importance on them in general. So I think that's a great point up. -solutely. Absolutely. So the show has been renewed for a second season. I guess I haven't asked anyone this before puts what, what would you like to say in the second season? Brand digits, you know, any in particular can be anything you think. Oh, I haven't even thought about that at all. You on the spot. I try not to have. No, it's okay, it's okay. I try not to have expectations about things because expectations can often lead to disappointment. So I just I couldn't even say for sure what I would like to see just keep it coming in giving me Jordan Peele. And I'll pretty much there guys. So. Just keep creating human dramas. Keep creating dramas about, you know, humanity in what we experience as a whole in by telling certain individuals stories. So just keep bringing that to light. I completely agree. I don't know that I have anything specific that I I just trust the creator so much think they did a really great job. And I think that they're touching on important topics, and I think this episode specifically was just but the, the conversation can go in so many different ways with it and I love all the layers to it. And I think as long as they keep doing that and bringing these new storylines, and I've loved who've cast in the series. So I think just I think they're doing great. I guess my only thought is I would love to see something like I'm fine with the issues bringing up, you know, it seems to be such a huge offer. Some people, I'm fine with bullets. I'd like to see something like shadow, play where it's not necessarily about anything, but it's just a really sort of freaky story. That's there to kind of freak you out. I guess and something like that. Because a quite m interested to see that. Okay. So I think we'll leave it there and the final episodes drops on Thursday, the therte now. That's also the day that the potent all the episodes, onto CBS all access and black and white. Arrive, or if you're going to check out any of the episodes in black and white. Absolutely. Yeah. Any exists to watch them again, grits Gert. I think I might I don't think I'll have time to do the whole ruin which is a shame. I think that only putting it on for that one day. But I'll definitely try and watch cope. We'll put that is also the day that the final episode drop. So if you wanna get your thoughts onto the final listener feedback show, then if you could get them in by Sunday, the second of June, and, you know, if you wanna do a top five or rank the episodes that kind of thing up -solutely go for it. You know, I'm not too strict on the time. Let's say about five minutes but it's the final episodes. If you want to add a bit more to it. You know, talk about the season as a whole little bit pleased to that. And you can Email me, a e twenty nineteen at the twilight zone podcast dot com and emails welcome MP3. clip, so welcome. I'll try. And include as much as a canon this to final episode lacy. It's so nice to talk to you after all this time. I really appreciate you coming on. It's it's been a real pleasure to finally speak to you. So thank you. Thank you. Yeah. This has been so exciting. I told everybody I knew when you asked me to be on it. So I was so excited. And this is a lot of fun and great talking to you, as well, brandy. Oh was great talking to you Lacey. I hope we get to do it again. Yes. I'm brian. You've been here on this journey. I know you to on every episode if you could I'm glad you got to. Got you got to be on three of them. At least. And, you know, I know this isn't your final time when the twilight zone podcast, thank you so much for your help with this project. It is sincerely, my deepest pleasure to help in any way that I can. And I just so happy to be here. So that is the twilight zone podcast for this week. I don't I don't even know what this next episode called 'cause I kinda I'm trying to stay so much away from it. I don't want to know anything about it. So whatever it is. We will see you next time for that app. Assode bye. For now.

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Special Report: A Woman's Work - The NFL's Cheerleader Problem

The Projection Booth Podcast

22:42 min | 1 year ago

Special Report: A Woman's Work - The NFL's Cheerleader Problem

"Five our T with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing incomes and three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size import ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beach without weighing you down by our T caffeine from green tea, leaps. Release your natural site from the neighbors of five hour energy. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Five our T with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing incomes and three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size import ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beach without weighing you down five our T caffeine from green tea, leaps. Release your natural side from the neighbors of five hour energy. For more information. Visit five hour. Energy dot com ages was crazy to think that they were getting away with this, and you know, putting this contract and having forty women every year fifty years sign this contract. And that's what I made the decision. I'm going to announce. Guess what? The law is bigger. I'm right here. The raiders they have no common. The team has not yet commented on this lawsuit. The raiders have not stepped up and discuss their treatment of women in this case as of right now, I'm the only one standing up for my team, and hopefully all the NFL cheerleaders. I needed to get it off my chest. I needed to like go talk to somebody. You know? I'm not with Sean. He was just could not believe some of the stuff. I was telling him calling podcasters musicians bloggers and reporters and everyone else who wants crystal clear recording that super portable the sure motive family of microphones make studio quality audio. That's a simple as plug and play many of the world's top podcasters rely on sure. And with a motive line of IOS USB, microphones portability is now your friend imagine being able to get great audio quickly and easily from your phone, tablet or computer, simply visit sure dot com slash motive to start getting great audio for your content now, that's S H E R E dot com for its M O T V. It's a product of callous indifference, both to a worker into a woman. And I think it's part of an industry that perceives itself as being kind of untouchable because of his. A folks will do a special episode of the projection booth. I'm your host Mike white on the special episode. I'm talking with we do the director of a woman's work, the NFL's cheerleader problem and also talking to two of those NFL cheerleaders lacy sibito fields the Oakland raider at and Maria Penzone of the buffalo Jills this is a fascinating documentary. Definitely worth your while. It is showing this week at the Tribeca film festival and will be at other festivals around. I over linked to their webpage over at the projection booth, which is projected with podcast dot com. Please enjoy the interview. Lacy. You want to say. Hi, sure. Hi. This is lakey field. I am the one raider at law. Okay. And then we got Maria my Maria and bony and on the one who started being Bill lost. We send it off. Now, or do you said that you know, who emerges struggling with the tariff right for this morning. My name Li do I am director of documentary. So we actually spoke when you were doing publicity for who's either too, right? Well, yeah, it's great talking with you. I'm very curious how you came to the subject of the stuck entry. When did you start working on it? He that you bring up with qb because I started doing before who is are to heal them started in two thousand fourteen may was the first time I started going with Lacey, and who though that you actually started in the temper, and I only need more finishing. This dome. So the first kind, you know, Irish out Hugh lacy deter any in Oakland on LV age are just emailed them. And I had an independent filmmaker. I'm really interested in Lacey and one made her wanted you this what went into her decision to stand up and eat out about something like this that no other woman has out in years, and knowing that she would be blacklisted from that community. I was really curious to know because for me, I've grown up as an outsider mind her life. And we talk to you know, as an immigrant. I, you know, growing up in China as an immigrant in Canada. And in the US, I've never felt this kind of sense of community that you know, they feel and they felt out cheerleaders and dancers growing communities that also loved the team that they support in terms of football. So that must have been something, really. And wanted to know like what is that journey going be like from then on the loss? You like how you know, how can they rebuild their lives, and how can they will word, but at the same time fighting this lucky and also over their own life, the personal lives of their family, you know, defend in their communities. So that was where it all started. So you touch about how you got in contact with Lacey Lacey. What happens when we context you and says, I want to do this film about you. Well, time we out Allen with my lawyers a lot in the moment. Trying where lack of interviews or coming up. It was a hot subject. It was around sequel. He's in and know interview after interview just kind of worrying no little bit more about it. It doesn't get that. No one had ever actually known about like what happened behind the scenes in the NFL, and everyone is Jim that sure leaders are paid properly or, you know, hanging care of in some way, it kind of was like the perfect story. Lot more than I ever imagined that it what when we'd out me. I was interested in doing it. Because I think her perspective was going to be the the real one wasn't going to be just like a timid fashion. You know me trying to say things that were politically, correct. Or hoping to make the point. She was going to get the truth. The real a woman behind the whole being and I felt like only good things come of that, you know, Maria. Wendy, you come into the story. How did we get in touch with you? After that come in that following January in our attorney head on called me in you know, there were these filmmakers that wanted to talk to us about you know, this documentary they were looking to do it to the dooming. And I was got I I mean, I'm not gonna lie, but one payment we, and, you know, kinda got her her ideas, and what she was looking to do. I was on board to go forward. How aware of each other word YouTube Lacey Maria, I found out about Maria a few months after my wealthy mid public because she was second girl to come out from a different team. So I was standing alone for a while. Another makes it came on board with me for the raider at lawsuit. But then you know, it took a little while for other girls and other teams to step up because every team is different. So you know, I could stand for the entire NFL truly. There's all could do stay vigilant happening me, this is the raider at and it kind of you know, shoes the second one to come. Out and then many more came after that. So I found out about marine when she came out. And then I've learned a little bit about her Rome we through this whole process. But yeah, watching the film was the first time I got to kind of like, see her face and her life experience. So now, so I know her really. As a fellow to that. When did you to actually meet in person? I. Holy shit. It's been four years you both seem so isolated. And I know like with with you Maria, we get to see some of the people that were on the lawsuit with you. But we also get to see the other side of the coin as far as all of the people who are just like what are these women doing or even the former rate aretz and gills who are just like, no, they're just complaining, we it's an honor to be a part of this whole system. I have to ask you, we how did you go about interviewing those, folks? And also, how did you manage to get that footage of the actual like come on out and joined the the buffalo Jills tape? Via because that was when she tried out back in linking more graduated from high school. You had the audition tape. It was a VHS. Yeah. So she found it. So we were going through her stuff in her basement trying to look for her home video then in dash with other the Asia tapes. But so that's where I live Brown. And you know, I guess I wanted to make this film, you know, a call the woman's work. And I wanted to understand women, you know, how different women you'd this subject. So it was very important for me to talk to who were former cheerleader who were, you know, not necessarily supportive of this lawsuit. And in terms of the rent. It was a random connection for friend of mine who said she said, oh, I met someone who works for the raiders. And he knows the cheerleaders. I'm like, oh, really love to meet them. And so, you know, and then they put me in touch with before raider alumni. And then the organizers she told me we're going to be in Vegas for this reunion and a fundraiser support one of our teammates. Would you wanna come like a course? Love to Vegas from Los Angeles, which was really nerve wracking experience because I did not know what to expect. I didn't know, you know, how these women would view need. But I think they were just they were to talk me about their perspective, and just, you know, their history, and they're clearly very proud of their relationship and their history of, you know, decades of being in this what they call the sisterhood together. And I think they're coming at it from a personal perspective of I was hurt. Because this thing that I had so long put my pride in and was proud of. What is now being criticized by new Enes across America and seeing in this negative light. So I understood where they're coming from. But I think even I hope they see the film now because I feel like they could see also a different perspective because I think it is. You know, yes, it is about the personal experience. But it's also about your experience as a cheerleader as a woman in this bigger side in the in the NFL. Well, you know in America itself. So I think from that respective I do hope that they can see the reason why and Maria other decided to come out with it with the lawsuits, and then it was more difficult to so with the other Jill in Bohol because Bubalo is such a small tight Nick community and everybody is a bills fan like even because I went to bubbles. I mean times I feel like I do. It's just like contagious there. You know, everybody until you're always nervous to talk to people because you don't know what level of Vandam, you know, they have towards the bills. And so it was very hard to reach out. An eventually be shocked to a couple of Joe's alumni and talk to them. But you know, I think Maria did a lot of the work in terms of reaching out to her former teammate so that they could come together and and talk about lawsuits together. So that was a good. I'm glad you did that. I think in a way to made me kind of feel better and not, you know, so alone during this whole process. I mean, I did have lacy. But as far as being, you know in buffalo and having that support even though it was, you know, a little bit behind the theme. You know, I had that. So it was nice felt even more isolated just that you eventually at one point you move out of the country for a while. And I imagine so two things I majored wind. It must have been nice to get away from some of the noise of the things that were having into states. But at the other point, you lose your support system. I mean, you had your family at least. You know, what's interesting about, you know, the former raider at when they're talking, and you know, they are so proud their raider at. That's what I don't think is quite clear in the film. But like, I myself was so proud to be raider at it was the best year mine life, and the friendships that I've made are so special to me in so important that I was willing to give it up to fight for them. Like, that's how special it was for me. And yeah, I mean, it wasn't an easy decision. But I did it no wing that. There was a possibility that people would turn their back on me. And I don't feel like they turn their back on the accident. Like, I understood why they could not stand with me because they wanted to try out the next year. This was like the best part of their lives, and I didn't wanna take that away from them. So I have no hard feeling honestly about standing alone for a while. Because I was willing to give it up for them. I'm a mom I have three kids now like are made that this. Vision full heartedly, knowing what's going to happen. And I don't regret it at all especial. But I mean, I hope that the end of the day they can see that. I did it to make their lives better. Something we did for personal gain. We did this for, you know, future gills future raider that part of it was huge to notice a shift in attitudes. I mean because this process of baking the documentary was five years the process at the lawsuits took forever were there changes in attitudes from the general public or even from your fellow teammates as you were going throughout this process for me Maria, you know, the Joe farmer. Joe's chewed, but they they came around a little bit more, which was more comforting. So as time passed, and like, he thought it was, you know, four years, they really, you know, reached out to me, and like it was behind the scenes, you know, so be it. But it it was comforting to know that they were supportive, and this is Lacey for me during the process of all the publicity that was going on a lot of things that comfort me, we're like the fan that called in the radio stations that I was interviewing they think we'd love the raider at you. Guys, worked so hard. We definitely think that you guys should be paid, and they're fully supportive and very vocal about that. And I think even years later, the raiders have changed their contracts or go get paid in. Although they may not know what it was like before the new raider at very happy with the changes. And they're having awesome season. I've heard nothing but great things from the raider at the current ones. And so I I feel like I have part in that group is we definitely interesting to start the documentary in two thousand fourteen versus when we sort of wrapped up omen in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen because of the shifts, you know, in in the world out there in terms of the metoo movement and things like that in the conversations around women and women's rights, and even women and sport, I feel like has kind of have open up so much more. And I think that has been really positive because I think you weren't just finally understanding that there shouldn't be these division. Between women and the idea that you know, cheerleading is a job, they're athletes. They're beautiful all of those things can co exist, and all of those things should coexist and their labor should be valued as work and be respected for that. I think all of those things now people are starting to understand more readily. Because because I think before when I started film when I mentioned the world word cheerleader people were like why why are you making Bill about shoe leader? They're like, oh, why don't you make about Lacy's lawyers? They're much more interesting under so smart. You know, they have logged agrees than they know, blah, blah, blah, and the one with lawyers are great, you know, they're so meeting I would love that more time with them. But this is not what that is I refuse to think that just because you have more education or you have the privilege of more education that you're more valued as women as a seminary because to me that's not what it's about. So I think now people are more readily able to see. The gray in between not not not just make everything black and white because I think that when you have them holiday of putting things into these boxes. It's very hard to continue conversation is very hard to have a discussion that is actually productive. What's next for you, not necessarily, you know, the next press conference the next this? But what's next for you? And for the film, where do you go from here from the Tribeca film festival from here. We will be the show. It's known a lot of people. I really hope also with my team, my producer. Elizabeth we have an impact reviews or Jin. We want to show this film to young women two girls who are, you know, about the enter the workforce, or who are leaders in high school, or who are in Dan, you know, what I mean, I wanted to show this to hopefully, wet from seed of just questioning, you know, questioning their realities and thinking about how they can empower themselves. I think that that's something that. We would love to do and beyond that to we would love to show this dome to people in to football and people who you know, work at sports love sports. Because again, the our goal is to generate conversation and to generate a shift in thinking, so hopefully, whether you know, no matter how small that shift is like that's one of our goals while I wanna thank you very much for your time today. Lacey Maria, thank you so much for sharing your stories, and we thank you so much for making this film. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the dominion energy reliability investment. Our new investment product offers competitive returns, no maintenance fees and flexible online access to your money. Make the reliable investment in reliable energy, the dominion energy reliability investment to find out more. Go online to reliability investment dot com. That's reliability investment dot com. 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[142] Detroit Lions film review

Buccaneers Observer

41:56 min | 10 months ago

[142] Detroit Lions film review

"To win a championship. First thing we gotta do is eliminate. Are you go. You got to be in a learning state to become a better player. Every day all accolades will come when you win. We gotta be fundamentally sound blocking and tackling and protective football we takeaway we run the ball and we have stopped the run smart fast physical especially in the fourth quarter. That's when you get there. Defend every blade of grass goes. You never know what's going to happen. Complacency kills. I don't need to get any better. I'm good I got my spot on the roster. I'm good that will kill you. Kill US accountable to each other. That's that's a team now. Now what's our goal put ring on her finger. Welcome to the buccaneers observer pond. Kansas Phillips December seventeenth deep two thousand and nineteen got game film. Done in one day and one day. It's amazing what you can do without. I can't you're on it implies when his nasty I said yes so this is going to be a relatively short woman. Then we got some news to cover Let's get to the Game Review First Film Review. I'm going to tell you this was kind of boring. Surprising that was kind of boring. Wasn't a whole lot on the field that we didn't see on the broadcast version and that it was a lot more fun in real time. Yes it was very much more fun in real time. I got a handed to Jameis Winston. He played an excellent game. Besides the interception he threw everything else was perfect. I mean he didn't do a lot of scrambling for no reason our offensive line. The Great Trey flowers was really the only defensive player on your her side that gave us any trouble as far as offensive line is concerned. How Josh Wells do up against him back then as expected they? They didn't put trey flowers up against Josh Wells as much as they should have josh. Well he definitely had a rough start But then he he got a couple of decent plays but he got a few times says he had service of all backup. Yeah yeah definitely the rest of the offensive line did great and James Winston had plenty of time back there. I think that's really. What would allowed him to get so many yardage we didn't have a Lotta open receivers when he was thrown into some tight windows and making great passes? This is the way he didn't have a single receiver that was opened that he didn't see in this game. Maybe one but for Jason. That's fantastic so he missed. Open receivers right. He did not see maybe one at the you know he did not have feel that he did not see he read the field very they did great in coverage Detroit lions sticking to our guys there was not a whole lot open receivers but was able to get the ball in their. This was really a game. I'm of two quarterbacks Jameis Winston played very well did not yeah. That's kind of expect that I think we forced him out of the pocket quite a bit He threw some horrible passes. We tipped a couple of passes. We just had great coverage to but our quarterback played a lot better than their quarterback aren't even to line played played better than their defensive line. But you know it was pretty much what you saw on the broadcast version. We'll Golson played outstanding. Yeah he had a head. Ed Play almost immediately forgot to block him. I Francis snap they. They did that a couple times. One time where they forgot the block veto bail I WanNa say it was on a fourth down or third down in the fourth quarter just gross oversight. That was a really bad. When you forget the block pound lineman? Yeah Golson. Had that play where he met at the hand off. Tackle the runner besides that he played very well. He was the best defensive linemen. We had out there besides Shaq Barrett. Of course I mean it's always at the top of the list but was gallstone in more than usual because Allen wasn't active spoiling didn't play an so goals took his spot was the rotational guy. Probably got about forty percents of the snaps. I wonder if he is playing so well. Because of sue because remember ensue came into camp And Gallstone was up his ass like a little puppy. You like this fallen around. I WanNa know everything that you know and on the one of the Mike stops no it might have been on all twenty two. I was looking a the congress who has his spot on the bench. It's all the way down if you're if you're looking at the bench from the field. He's all the way at the very end. LEFTHAND side Tori sets every time. Oh Him and a couple of times. I've seen Golsen sitting down there with him beside him with his helmet on the ground sitting on top of his helmet. Kind of at SOUCI. Yeah Yeah I think. If you've watched the MIC drop with Shaq Barrett hilarious my favorite mike out this season beat. VP Whitehead. When which I thought was going to be hard to be but but at one point I think they didn't they sack Blau okay and a pseudo is on the ground like on the bottom of the pile and vida gets up and he's thirty pointing and laughing hysterically hilarious and you can see sue? Who is laughing too? If you look at what had happened was Barrett came in from the edge. He speed rushed around and he forced a Blau to step up up in sewage right there and so soon grabbed him and barry came in from behind and hit him and kinda knocked Blau out of. Sue's grasp but sue still had his the foot and and blouse like laid out with Barrett on top and sous les and deciding hopefully shoe and he pulls his foot like pulling closer to Vitas just crack it up leader stands up to him and it starts laughing and he could see sues cracking up to a real good chemistry between all these guys but I wonder if you get credit for that sack. Did they split it originally. But then they gave it to Yeah it was really. I mean Burnett caused to walk into sue but then beat his guy within sue. You've got knocked off of him by Barrett hitting the quarterback. So that's a tough one. I would have given it a half sacked both home on what you're talking about the Golsen the learning from sued. They're all learning from Su. Su has got this thing he does win especially when he's run stopping if he's being blocked or he's double double-teamed he will spin backwards it spin out of the block. I've noticed they're all doing that now. Yes they've all pick that up from sue but they've all also picked up moves from Barrett. I've noticed even sue is doing some Barrett's moves now. Yeah it's pretty interesting especially that little kick out with the leg thing in this. I noticed that I'll just find it all at least once so weird that bird. He's got so many moves man but that might double so good there. It has a lot yeah personality. Sure does man you can tell. He's on top of the world man it'll cloud. He likes music very much. He was singing along with every song on the PA.. A and they are they. Were just having time talking to each other. And he's fast too. He was telling everybody out there that he can outrun over now but we in blunting bunting adams got that interception was running back you can see Barrett turns around and you know he's looking for somebody to block and he sees the running back running back about five yards ahead of you and baird bronze and catches up with the running back and pushes inbound of like Davis broadcast where he just shoves by the face basically and that interception he could see what was happening down. Feel he's signal to the rest of the defensive line. I was kind of in his area that it was an interception. They all started running that way blocking they had a good train. Going in Adams almost got in the running back. It might have been tie I that Barrett knocked down Adams cut in Sidon and kind of tripped over that running running back. We'll still on the ground. He's getting up at that. Pass Dan and he was able to tackle any but yeah they are deflategate or secondary played. Great great everybody was in the quality of the opponent right. Yeah you gotta you gotta ask that because they really just did not the Detroit. Lions did not look like they had any energy or any fight at all except for Trey flowers. trae flowers killing. I mean he was. He's really out there fighting a guy's got a motor and he's strong. The Josh Wells a strong too though interesting he just needs to get his feet. Better be prepared for some of that speed. But he's he's a strong guy. It's funny because normally Jameis Winston that doesn't see open receivers down the field but there's a couple of times we didn't see open receivers down the field. The one time I think their longest pass forty eight yards to clay. I think his name Clay Travis. I can't remember now. That's a sports guy commentator media. Yeah it would have been touchdown. Lacey Lacey Coaches slinger classrooms does sound like a country freezing that now he's like I think it was on ESPN point. I've heard an interview at them. On that play. He was wide open the whole time. And it would have been a touchdown down. If Blonde got pressured by Barrett coming around aside Barrett positioning. He had to scramble outside the pocket and it caused our coverage to kind of move towards the opener saver but the reason why he was always because we bliss we did a lot of listening this game whitehead especially for you got hurt. They get hurt on. That's right that's right so so any out the guy that was covering the receiver. He blitzes leaving the receiver wide open. He was wide open for fifty yards running down the field. And it would have been a touchdown but BLAU got Pressured out of the pocket and had to scramble around and he ended up throwing a pass and it ended up being a little short. The guy had to come back for it but yeah he would have been a complete Russia. There was a couple of instances where did not see open receivers on the field but there weren't that many because we had great coverage to did you hear what you said about. Carlton Davis Today in the press conference. He compared him to forget what cornerback allows he said. It was one of the best quarterbacks ever that couldn't catch the ball call today. was they play. Great at pass. Breakup Jamal Jamal. Deen ahead a ball hit him in the shoulder pad he jumped up he thought again. He thought he intercepted up to me. He was in the air. It hit him shelter. Pet bounced right off. When he went to catch by the time he landed? He realized he didn't have the ball he was like. Oh man you see them just deflated. It probably work with them on that during the offseason and we had a couple of missed opportunity for interceptions. We did it. I think last week week to the the week before that within the Annapolis and then the way I I think like three or four weeks in a row. We've had opportunities for interceptions that they just didn't capitalize allies on the defensive backs while they're not. These guys are flannel. Everyone's I wonder if they'll work with them on that during the off season this is what happens happens when you're not rebuilding you get to improve in certain areas. Yeah we've been rebuilding but this happens every a year. You know the new a new coach comes in and everybody's like Oh we got playoff-caliber talent you know. And then after the first year Hopefully hopefully we gotTA teams can stick stick around for a while. It's GonNa be interesting to see what happened to offset free agency is going to be fun. It's GONNA be sad I'm got there's not. There's nobody on this team that I'm going to be upset about that leaves. I now everybody audio on this team. I like but we don't have to lose anybody you know. Generally you lose about thirty percent of your team. That's about average and we have a lot of people coming out for free. Feedlots in a lot of people are going to get paid. We'll talk about that in a minute. OJ Howard should not be blocking. I'm just going to say that he's not really good blocker. I mean his his thing is he's big and he just gets in the way he can block cornerbacks and maybe linebackers but you know these outside linebackers or defensive tackles and stuff now ah he just needs to stop doing that with him where he needs to work on a lot in because there's so many times usually four or five times a game where he just gets destroyed on his blocks. I wonder if that's why he's not getting as many pass catching opportunities to stop. That was not the best blocker in the world he was serviceable but compared to the rest of the titans. We've got blocking the best blocker after he typically six of the second quarter Howard with on a lead block for paramount is when pyramid. Got The hand off. It's kind of an interesting pyramid. Had It was wide open down the field all OJ Howard had to do was block as one cornerback. Totally whiffed didn't even touching God. God just went right around him trying or is he just not good at. I think both you know. It doesn't seem like he's really into the blocking but even when he is into it he's not really good added doesn't seem behrman. Had that would've been a huge game. Maybe even a touchdown but there was nobody after that quarterback and Howard just totally early with didn't even touch the guy and seven. I think we've got to got sacked twice. Think yes the one nine seven in the second quarter that was totally on hill. One hundred percent on him he had that ball from six seconds. I'm like in a clean pocket. Five point seven seven seconds with that. Yeah no nobody got open. I I said I mean these. These guys were covering our receivers. Good nobody got open. And he held the ball and he held ball and he held a ball and it was five point seven seconds before he got any pressure whatsoever and and then he just got sacked he just somebody got about a foot and throwing it away should've thrown away or ran one of the two. Yeah we did. We blitzed whitehead quite a bit. He was pretty. It was pretty effective too. He definitely pressured Blau quite a bit. Did they continue does. Let's let's he came out. They started doing more cornerback blitz blitzer quite a bit more so than we have in quite a few games that interception thirteen fifteen in the third quarter. I think that was Adams. got the interception That was just a bad pass Bob while I was nothing special on anybody's what they didn't catch the ball. Yeah it was it went right in and fans he. It was good that he was imposition. Though a couple of times in the fourth quarter second half the lions would only rush three and drop eight back and we would only have three or four receivers going out and we'd still complete passes for twelve fifteen yards. Yeah it was pretty bad for a lot of them were excellent throws by James Winston. You know he he. He threw some really good pass in this game he was on. He was on point. He needs a break as hand more often. Like how do you do that. But that's gotta it'd be so discouraging for the lions and they got eight guys back there. Yeah we've got free in there before us. That's what it reminds me of these past. Two Games reminds me that all buccaneer secondary it. It just seems like no matter what you do is you can't stop at four in the fourth quarter. Four minutes and eleven seconds left the interception that was almost intercepted option by Stuart. And if you remember Jamal Deen defended the pass Blau Right before the guy caught the ball. Djamoldine steeler okay. Yes popped up in the Air Darren Stewart Anderson. I think it's an interception. I don't see how they could overturn that. That was very strange. Because you couldn't see under the ball you never saw it different angle but none of angles we saw. You can see the ball hit the ground that was caused by bunting wanting was blitzing housing and he jumped up and tip that pass crazy. Okay so game balls defense giving away three okay. Golden glinting glinting in Whitehead bumping had a greg which is phenomenal. 'cause that's where he's provinces hometown right. He was playing close to the wall. That's really cool. Call and I'm glad to see how far that he's come from the beginning of the season because oh initially I don't know about this guy. He was not great when he started. Remember Jamal Deen I. That was horrible. He was gay got roasted every. Yeah who lives in New Orleans. Can't remember yeah wasn't that the one where Carlton David Scott Jackson. That's right yeah. He came in but necessity are you sure that was Jamaldini. Wasn't somebody else. Snow Bunting Djamil beans. First game was was absolutely atrocious. So they've come so far. I'm excited to see them grow. We're going to watch this whole core guys develop l. up over the next few years. Hopefully they're home grown they're all young draft picks and they like each other. They're going to be here for at least four years. That's exciting yeah on offense game ball does gyms wisden. That's cool. I'm so happy for him and with him I think he's really made some some strides at the end of the season when it mattered in he has gotten a lot of the fan base on board with extending him giving him a long. It's not super long term contract but maybe two years three years after these last two games putting up record. That's never been done in the history. There's no way you can release him no way I mean. The guy's floor is relatively high. You're going to get the interceptions and you're GonNa have the Games where he gives you know multiple interceptions and when James Winston plays like crap team usually doesn't do good but now that we the defenses gel secondary's del defense can make for them but and heavily those games they'll be fewer and further between now that he's more comfortable. We'll arrested a team. I am seeing much more. Calmer James Winston Bank. They're a war. You Know He. He's more willing to throw it away he's make better decisions. He's not scrambling for no reason as much such a dream field a little bit better in this game you know last game it was horrible. How much left on the field but he did throw for four hundred fifty seven? Yeah Yeah there's no way you can. You can let James Go because I haven't Jersey and turns the where the person leaves. The team falls into oblivion. His floor is relatively high but his ceiling. As we've seen is I don't think we've reached a ceiling. Yeah now I don't think so either doesn't Adin a full season of him. Playing lanky has in the second half of the season. Gosh opponents like that all year long to you got to remember the first part of our season season was a lot of traveling and a lot of good teams. Yeah I think the travel had more impact than the opponents did. We went toe to toe with almost everybody the saints with really the only ones that I would say beat us. Yeah I agree with that. Yeah I mean we took the number one seed currently into overtime in their house. So there's somebody who said for that will be the forty niners too so and they beat the military given Sunday Atlanta. So we're better than San Francisco. Yeah that's not a whole lot there the video on Youtube. Check it out the companion video to this podcast. We'll call it. I've got some. Oh good stuff in there and some interesting things but not as much as usual. It just seemed like we were. We handle these guys so easy that we didn't have to really try that hard you know so there wasn't a whole lot of on the field shenanigans like you normally. Do you tell what happened on the Jensen. Play it. When he got hurt on twitter? Somebody said that him and my pet. KINDA got tangled up. You can't really see one happened. But he's blocking somebody comes over to help and it looked like he hit his elbow immediately. I mean Jensen fell down immediately. He stopped blocking doc and everything just fell down an answer the play all the Lima turned around and looked over at him. Like Oh crap I mean. He was rolling around on the ground holding and then he was so heavily taped after I the human capital there were both out there one arm and then you know like the three legged race. Three armed no too good arms defensive line. I was really surprised at how little I don't know what to say. Effort would push they got. I mean they were richest. Winston had cleaned pockets whole game. Just amount had plenty of time back there. Would I think like I said was a large factor for him getting four hundred fifty seven yards. Well that's it for the Phil Review. Got Some news good news great news pro bowl results came out today. From the buccaneers ars Shaq Barrett will go and Mike Evans. An Chris Godwin fantastic. Congratulations to them. Ed representing the buccaneers last time we had three buccaneers on the pro ball longtime ago we should have had more to be honest with him. Viva should've gone. Lante David Dante. It just annoys me that he's over lucked constantly constantly instead. But you know the the promos nothing but popularity contest and then we have roster moves today to Scotty Miller got put on irr so then. We signed Spencer Schnell onto onto the practice squad and brought in Sierra Grayson. And I don't know anything about him. Have you heard of him. He's GonNa Wear Number Fifteen fifteen. It had look easterling. What does he sports illustrated? I can't remember on twitter. He ahead out. I think that he was I. I think the said he was on the Dallas practice squad. Maybe but I guess when he was trying to get in the. NFL didn't work out. and He tried to drive for Uber for a while and then also got his certification to be a substitute teacher and then he got the call from the bucks. So here is and if this doesn't work out. He can Uber Antique. He's got to fall back. Plans plan. There was practiced today and Dan. All the People Injured Evans. Godwin Scotty Miller Whitehead Donovan. Smith J. P. P. and NASA they all sat out of practice. Yes Somebody asked whether Vernon Hargreaves you know. We're playing the Texans Saturday vern hargreaves while they're starting cornerbacks. Somebody asked if if he will have a familiarity with bucks receivers dealing with a slew of injuries and Aaron said he's not going to be familiar with our receivers. He doesn't know any of them. I don't either. Yeah that was funny now. You can always count on errands for good press going back to the pro bowl were quick. You know when the the the fan voting they have the coaches and then they have have the players right so each one of them counts for a third with the fan voting Shaq Barrett who is leading the NFL in sacks and forced turnovers was fourth among NFC players. Wow was fifth among outside linebackers in pro bowl voting for fans that. That's just ridiculous. You know it just shows. That's how ridiculous pro bowling is the pro bowling voting or whatever. It's all just a popularity contest players. Make it what do they don't doesn't mean they're good. Or they're bad Mike Evans fourth among receivers third among final van voting. The proble Chris Gardiner was eighth seventh the NFC. I mean that's just mind blowing. That people could be that away. You'RE NOT GONNA understand voting for your team I vote straight buccaneers down the ticket. So that's what everyone does so it's good. It's good to see that we got some guys. And they deserve it the Carolina Panthers Leuke Klay got in and TRAE returner. We're linemen didn't get in. Tell me Gerald McCoy which is Kinda big because that was in his contract I think he got like a half a bonus if he made it to. The pro bowl might have been up to two million dollars. I can't remember you have to go back and look at his incentives but he he had to get six sacks acts on the season and a pro bowl appearance. I don't think he's going to get either one of those by we. The he didn't get the pro bowl in here. Just so that little dig in there. It's been zero days. You need a boogeyman. What are you going to do when he retires? You're not gonNA have anyone anyone ridicule. Oh I'll take some hell. Maybe boy are no good. Julio Jones made it for the Atlanta Falcons and Alex Mack their center really surprise anyone from their offensive lineman. The saints drew brees came Jordan. Max Unger Michael. TUOMAS Toronto Armstead made a left tackle. I think I'm looking at last year's pro bowl last year's Provo. Manam Ha. That's funny were now what if John McCain does making stupid. Where are the pro bowl? Okay in your defense. It does say the Twenty Nineteen Paul. What would they do that? Why would they call it just and make you look like a big dummy? We'll have to try harder next Okay here we go. Okay from the New Orleans Saints. Came in Jordan Sean. Lattimore Damore drew brees. Michael Thomas Pretty much all the same guys from two thousand Nineteen Terron Armstead Grady. Jarret made it from the Falcon good. He's a good player on defense. Lukic did make it from the panthers. He's the only panther to make it this year. No Christiane mccown carefully. Yeah Julia Jones. made it from the Falcons. All the wide receivers on the pro bowl the NFC south Julio Jones Michael Thomas Evans and Chris Godwin that's crazy okay. Let's look at special teams Well let's from New Orleans and then Indiana Harris from New Orleans. Return specialists on personnel returns specialists. He's he's on special teams so he's a return turn specialist so he's like a special specialist. Yeah and also confirmed JEREM McCoy did not make it. Okay a couple a few weeks ago. What would you say three weeks ago four? Maybe when you were saying hey guys the secondary is not that bad. Remember that we got you got a lot of flack conflict for saying well Greg Allman with the numbers confirms you are correct Sir Opinion Fifty. Yeah sure this ascent hargraves was waived in the first nine weeks bucks. Were thirty second in pass yards per game. I'm allowed. We were twenty four in opposing quarterback rating in completion percentage. We were sixteenth Vernon ordinary with Vernon Hargrave touchdowns allowed per game. We were thirtieth and interceptions per game. We were nineteenth well in the last five weeks. We were nineteenth in impasse yards per game compared to thirty second before opposing quarterback rating. We Are we allow a seventy seven point six. Wow L. quarterback rating compared to one hundred point three with Vernon Hargreaves completion percentage. We are fit in. Completion percentage allowed on tight. Weave the point one percent we have got to be up there at the top for pass defense in the last half of the season. I mean these these guys got ahold of record. The guy they bat Walston like crazy and then tim l.. Deans numbers are just crazy for having like probably two hundred three hundred snaps at at this point yeah especially considering the first Dany was in how bad he with to be good. I think that was bunting that came in New Orleans as well which I remember Jamila means. First game was really been in touchdowns allowed per game tied for tenth. He allow one point four touchdowns breath that's crazy compared to two point four before and then interceptions per game we're tied for twelfth. We WanNA game so the market improvement for sure that is huge. The there's no doubt about it. The secondary is head and shoulders above what it was starting to year. And they're fun. They're fun they are they are. I think we're going to have a lot of interceptions next year. The Carolina Panthers Plan to start. We'll greet at will greer at quarterback back out. He's going to be the fog and he's the reason for their downfull found the information. The full breakdown of Jerem McCoy's his contract with the panthers. One year four million assigned three million base five hundred thousand Camp Roster Bonus five hundred thousand forty-five man per game bonus. Incentives are six and a half sacks will get five hundred thousand eight sacks get him one point five million pro bowl would get him two hundred and fifty thousand in two hundred fifty thousand for the playoffs. He just got four million zone. That's the only thing guaranteed the rest of it was incentives so he can get none of that mess is definitely gone out getting eight sex unless he POPs off to four games sacks yeah why thinking at seven million cut so the four million dollars signing bonus and then the three million dollar base so I don't think it was that much now you might you might think as far as like guaranteed money. Well he's not getting the one point five million dollars for the pro bowl. Two hundred fifty thousand for playoff lil of you'll be able to feed his family now. We'll be homeless. He's got all that buccaneer. Money hundred million was going. On with the Falcons. Anything can soar some news about them today. Well that's about it. There's no more news I mean. We can talk about all kinds of stuff. I do not want to talk about drew. BREES is record. It'll appear James. Whistler is going to break it eventually this all kinds of records when the Downpour Indianapolis we broke into now. Yeah Yeah and then on Monday night. Football Yeah Owen Christian McCaffrey needs three hundred. Eighty eight yards to break Chris. Ms Johnson's two thousand yards in a season rushing K.. Or is it yards from scrimmage. This too I can't remember from scrimmage other than that football's still here. We've got two more weeks. Don't forget we're playing. Houston Saturday so plan your weekend. Accordingly Sunday I'm excited about that but then I'm like what am I going to do with my Sunday like have to watch everyone else's games. We'll do something around the house civilized football. They will have it on in the background. I haven't watched any Houston film yet but I'm kind of worried about this game. I've watched a few of their games broadcast versions with us. Having all of our receivers out and all that discipline might be a tough one so molly is GonNa have the game review Friday on the podcast. Cancel we'll find out if we're going to win or lose she's GonNa let us know. have an accurate score predicts sound like last time you were close class. Four points eleven. I put Selena. You said forty two seventeen. I was like wow. That's really going up there but I kinda blow out all right and that's going to wrap it up for us if you want to stay in. Listen to WHO Bruce Arians podcast from today. Rents Prusse Paris podcast. He's caught that half hour talk with you. Know they always have a weird background like they can goes up on the wall and it's too much. It is kind of strange looking. But we'll have the press conference at the end of the podcast here. If you WANNA listen to it this is the latest press conference is the one where he talks about. Carlton Davis in some of the injuries. As we've got to wrap it up for us next time Gal backs Bo. Alan Demar Dotson Mike Evans. Chris Godwin Tenor Hudson Hudson Donovan Smith Jordan Whitehead obviously within forty eight hours game ever go full speed so it was a walk through Gidon Adan used to seeing what Houston does offensively and defensively and Getting some guys ready to play Who Haven't played much? See this especially literally joining today games like this where you have too many the problem way. Too many guys show up on Tuesday. I have a role on Sunday and It's not it's not anything you'd like to have but you embrace it and get them ready. It came into the best one is was Red Bryant. We called him thanksgiving. He was hunting all right. He got on a plane. showed up. Friday played twenty-seven snaps on Sunday and That that's the Best I've had so far receive Roberts is where you're dealing with is the most brazen has not played in the national. Football Games is twenty eleven. Beat around the lead. What can you bring you in in ensure top end speed? You know when hadn't been here for a workout early He was somebody that we're interested in and You always been practicing with Dallas. Ellis that so he's got. He's in shape and ready to go. So it's just a matter of learning he can't learn at all. Just get him a role some things that he can do and And Getting Ready to play pretty much. The same for James was last week. We would've told a walk-through practices got to do everything today because there was no throwing and I doubt he'll throw tomorrow. No hopefully we'll teed up again thirsty bridge looking on tape by Bruce how nickel and he's solid relationship with with todd. Bowles goes back over three decades. Would you say the biggest factor and reason why you get along with in. Some wealthy offensively is his aggressive style. I mean th th they are our personalities match a lot in that way That's what we we want. We want to be a pressure. Team won't put pressure on offensively and defensively He's one of the smartest buyers ever coached and You know as a NFL Oh player. WHO's a really bright guy ran the defense for the red skins and You know newly outstanding coach. I thought it'd be working for him the truth we're the coordinators. Can you talk a little bit about what Tom Wars meant. Close Yeah Bunch. I may Tom. Tom Brings such an expertise On all all levels you know just the coaching profession itself. The young guys just gravitate to him He's a sounding board for me. You know He's seen enough practices in his life to know a good one from a bad one and a young player who's might be ready. Might not be ready so get to bounce ideas off of him. He's very very helpful. Byron because Byron Trust team with him you know in Arizona and Tom Has a game plan every week and There's a lot of really good things in it. Carla Davis had been. What have you seen those guys new technique or his family finally started? Yeah I think I think the studying film helps you know the techniques gotten better but they're more anticipatory you know they they see things coming. There's a lot more confidence you know. I think with with Carlton like Djamil. Carta reminds me so much of our Lewis. Who was one of the all-time great corners in this league? But didn't have receptions 'cause kids couldn't catch but but Pay was saying you know Kevin Ross was on the other side and and he would knock out but Those two guys remind me to mel a little bit it but cotton of Albert because of the size for sears. In the way that game is guy trying to try create car space. But yeah I I think Warner helping. Yeah there's no doubt length you gotta have linked now and With with the what used to be the small forwards and stuff now playing football in high school and college are all playing receiver. You know the some of the best athletes ever that don't make in basketball L. Anymore so that the corners have to adapt you know used to have the five nine five ten physical guy. He's off his head now. So it's a two different game a new receiver Kinda sesame but on your practice point use Kerma spot tongue from kind of development guys have backgrounds baseball backgrounds coach. How much do you guys like being able to kind of develop somebody like? Yeah I love getting my hands on athletes and mold them demento position down. Franklin's a guy who was a quarterback gets played some receiver has does a corner. He's got four three speed finding his spot You know so mcelroy same thing. Big Tall active guy down the field Has this shown us that he can really run and catch so Yeah those those are guys. I Love I love to get an and be able to grow them. They don't have bad habits. The bits you know so you teach him your habits finished with a six game winning streak you finished it so that'd be pissed the season's over successful season or encouraging encouraging. Because you look back at two plays and you'd be seven five. Make the postseason so in that respect let alone five will get us in. You know what you know the the fumble in Tennessee and the kick in New York But that that's still in the rear view mirror too much football left to be looking in a review mirror. You guys continue to play hard and try to gain. You know Houston comes in here with a chance to clinch vision. These are big December. One day maybe next year we'll be playing several games KANADA urgency that Houston fields to help your team because for US assistance December game because a good measuring stick even without whoever's not playing you know it doesn't matter Still going to be a team going to the playoffs. We've beaten one team. That was almost in the playoffs. You know so. We went overtime with number one seat on their place. So yeah that's the thing is I think you judge on you. Look back when we get to that river. You start evaluating where we're at next year Joe Hopkins. It is really for it for a fast guy. He's probably one of the most physical guys in the League physicality Musha Muhammad. But he's faster like he's a combination of Muhammadu Stevie Smith Beach. Just take the ball. It's his ball he's GonNa take it It's GONNA throw it to him because he knows going to catch it. No and You know I that video of him hanging upside down catching balls. That's something amazing but Yeah he's a he's a tremendous player. Be drafted until it was. It would have been drafted in the next week but Yeah I think sometimes P guys get labeled you know Now with with Lamar success. His success people are looking for that guy. Now you know Same with Pat Mahomes. You know different style athlete but You got that that quarterback classes special looking for him or not what they're giving you writing uh-huh starts at high school so it's inevitable that that's what you're going to find. Yeah I think they're they're still when you look at just a little bit of Saint. Joe Borough more classical quarterback clues an athlete Jeff Driscoll who didn't play last week was that type of Guy Florida But the there's there's so many seven seven leagues now just kind of taken over Highschool Footba. There should never be a lack of quarterback play anymore. It was much throwing. The ball came with the wind now. Approach and Jameis Winston aside. Someone suggested that because of that. Approach that so you wouldn't be willing to start. Wouldn't WANNA start over with a young quarterback. What do you say those people that say that we were a lot of games with young quarterbacks you know a UH fifteen of them in a row with Ben in Pittsburgh so they don't scare me it depends on who it is? I didn't mind taking Andrew Luck and we went to the playoffs with seven other rookies. So it depends on the guy you know.

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108: Unhappy Science

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108: Unhappy Science

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The show often but basically the episode takes place in a dystopia future where every teenager has to undergo the transformation where their bodies are changed if it conventionally attractive and fit numbered model of their choosing the protagonist is a girl who refuses to undergo the transformation which no one around her can understand ultimately. She's forced to comply. And as you find out the transformation also brainwash people into conforming. It's incredibly depressing. But in addition to you know looking at the transformation is supposed to lengthen lifespan and provide immunity to disease conflating beauty and wellness. Bo talks has already been used to treat migraines and I haven't done enough research to form solid opinion about whether it's a placebo or not. But do you think that as time goes on more cosmetic procedures will be touted as having health benefits or DC cosmetic medical procedures being packaged together to persuade the so far unconvinced to get on board with plastic surgery? Well I had an until just now and now I'm like of course that will have it absolutely so I I my mom sent me a care package recently a few weeks ago and she gets vogue for some reason. I think vogue is one of these many. This is my conspiracy theory. Btw about like print media right now which is a lot of if you start to get a magazine mysteriously that you never subscribed shoe like. They're just doing it. So they have their circulation numbers up there just randomly giving you a subscription so they can tell advertisers that they are circulated to somebody people so like Boeing. Is One of these magazines do this? I think here's what I think. I think when you start mysteriously getting a magazine that you've never gotten before. I thought it was to replace a magazine that went out of business. And they're like we don't have mademoiselle anymore. Now you get tremendous. Yeah Yeah I don't know I mean. My mom never subscribed to any. I don't know whatever any short. This is a very tangential part of the story. So she she gets. Okay you can admit that. You love reading vogue and it's your favorite magazine. Last week. I was A. I was a founding member of the Fashion Club at city high school in Iowa City Iowa I love I love and it went tour. I love everything she stands for. Did you see Andre? Leon saying that she has no empathy. Yeah Hon scathing but wait I wanNA know what's in this care package that emily's mom sent because I'm curious if it's like. Diy Plastic surgery stuff. So there's an article about Lake I am probably not going to pronounce this correctly but guas shaw the like facial massage. And it's actually pretty so. I was just like flipping through the vogue and then I started reading this year my eggs or whatever and it's so funny because you know it's like this you know it's one of these many things that get touted as like ancient Chinese secret like some like these these mystical health benefits. That can help. Rich White Women look younger. But it's so funny because like they talk to one of the one of the doctors that really helped popularize it and make it into this like grammy thing where people are like selling jade rollers for hundreds of dollars and she said something that I thought it was so funny which is just like this. Skin is a map for what's going on in the body which to me is just like a great excuse to be like. If you look hot than your healthy Yes washer. Guas saw I started. I can't even heard of it because a friend of mine does it. And she loves it but you take. It's a stone that's kind of like thin and almost like it's not super sharp but it's thin on one side and then the other side's more rounded and you sweep the sweep against from like your nose outward and I guess that it's not I mean it's supposed to make your skin look good but it also is kind of marketed with the idea that you're you're sweeping toxins towards your lymph nodes Yup And I was so put off by it until we weren't supposed to be touching our faces and then all of a sudden it was like this great forbidden things so I was like. I don't need to buy a stone because I have all these weird crystals that we bought a or I bought at the store that was like right around from where we used to record when we recorded in a studio. That are just smooth enough that you can kind of just do it yourself? And I'm not putting weird oils on but I was like this is fantastic because all I wanna do is touch my face and this this gives you an excuse but the idea is that yeah like. You're you're flushing away all the bad stuff that's lingering under your skin. I mean I think we've determined on this. Show that touching. Your face feels. Super good is definitely drug. Yeah I'd had my whole facial massage thing which is less. I don't think that that was like Gosh Shop. But it was just a lymph node stimulation thing and then started breaking out for so his vanity always rule so I've also seen There's a dermatologist. Called the skin witch I forget what her actual name is but I learned about her because Hailey Baldwin goes to her Hilo Baldwin Bieber my friend and she posted about her and she does like dermatology. That's also rocky high. You know I think is very much in this family. It's like energy healing plus dermatology. I think especially energy. Heal your face for being ugly. I think soup Israeli sets the standard here with Sharon vining sort of new age stuff and putting it under the umbrella of wellness. And I think you guys are super right about the idea of being like. Oh if you look hot you must be good. Which is the Houthi? Just a rock. Skip away from eugenics. Yeah so I mean it's hard because bringing up the number twelve looks just like you. I wish we could just do an entire episode dedicated to this This this episode. I guess or just the twilight zone in general. Maybe we'll get around to twilight zone October. We can do marathon twilight zone marathon like they do. That's traditionally January right. We should kick things off for twenty twenty one by just watching the twilight zone marathon. Maybe WE PROBABLY WON'T BE ALLOWED OUT. So is this all finally gets us to get. Cbs All access subscription. Yes yes there's no way. Otherwise I add new star Trek as you want. I'm never I hadn't accidentally for like a year trial before they had released all the new twilight zones and then I was so upset. I was like if I'd waited. I could've just binged them during my trial but I just planned it really badly And I really liked the ones that I saw of the the reboot the Jordan Peele. Yeah But I think that this episode is super definitely fits with most of what we've been talking about over the course of this month because there's it's very night call in that the underlying like sinister thing. Is that the government. It's not that people all want to look a certain way it's the government is enforcing it and manipulating them. Psychologically during these surgeries to make them satisfied with looking the way they do and more compliant and stuff very very white power. I it's it's very eugenics and I think that that's kind of I mean. That's there in the episode. It's not like A. We're not becoming genius. Interpreters here it's just there And so it does. It does seem of dangerous when you start thinking of how doctors could suggest benefits. That are not like you know cosmetic benefits from cosmetic surgery or if there was a way to package those things together and to try to coerce people to get plastic surgery one thing I really noticed because I think coming out of the ninety s when there was a lot of like push back on plastic surgery for a while it felt like and that it felt like in the two thousands it suddenly became just like normalized but especially in beauty magazines. I remember reading things and being like. This is an ad for to`real right problem because it was so accessible became just like trend pieces about like ladies do talks and it was all packages empowering to do it but I remember also reading one. I forget what magazine it was in but it was about a plastic surgeon who specialized in like ethnic. No jobs I would never like. We know you're like person of color and you want to get a nose job. But you don't want to be like a Michael Jackson nose job so we were going to give you like a nose job that fits your face and it was like packaging is it is empowering and it just really broke my brain because I was like right because it fed back into the choice. Feminism of like. Well if that's what you want all right and then if there are social benefits to like looking white bad is also bad. It's all bad. Yeah on the other hand. I wonder if eventually there will. They will discover some kind of benefit of something that is like a cosmetic I mean just like with the bow talks and Migraines or Votaw Johnson and deviated Septum. That's always the excuse. That's a lot of sense that's sometimes very real to like totally your nose. Shit like yeah. Yeah or you could do that. Like that can be real like that could be an excuse to be like. Oh and then. I'll fix this crooked thing in my nose while they're in there. I also think breast reductions are obviously mostly done by people who are suffering health problems because of carrying too much weight and they want to reduce their back problems. Or what I like. Obviously there's no qualms with that. I wonder what they'll come up with the next like a freedom of choice aspect to it. Where like sometimes people who get a lot of extreme surgery? It's like for their own personal happiness in a way that has nothing to do with like people finding it hot. You know right. Yeah Yeah I think this has nothing to do with surgery. But just about the idea of like who? You're looking hot for friend of the PODCAST. Michelle Dean tweeted today. Like oh it's so great like the quarantine has made me realize that has really permanently done away with the idea that I had that I was putting on make up and and dressing up like lucky you know trying to look good for myself because I completely stopped but I I have the exact opposite experience. I think is different strokes for everybody because nothing has has given me more distraction and soothe me than putting on makeup for nobody else like just being around the house and just having a full face of Maaco I put on makeup today for the podcast because it made me feel like I was going to work right. It's like I'm awake now. No no I didn't even brush my teeth today. Honestly I'm so far off the spectrum at this point I think I think with emily and I are talking about is also kind of like a like a joker in up thing. You know Putting on your paint while you're crying yeah I refer to. It often probably should stop doing this. But there's a Simpson's joke where a homer makes a makeup gun for marge. He's like becomes an inventor and one of the things he invented a makeup gun he accidentally shoots it at the wall and it just puts a full face of makeup on the wall. So sometimes I say like I'm going to go shoot the makeup gun at my face. That's what I think of it as just like to still cartoon God it's like Roger Rabbit gun interest goes splits and seen my instagram stories. I love your vampire clown face. I WANNA shout out to make up artists whose work I really like that have been bringing me a enjoyment during a quarantine. My Friends Sandy. Sandy cancer has she's amazing. She's a great makeup artist and in quarantine she's been doing. All of the looks from Kevin Swans making faces fun. It's so fun I love you. Second ever even bought it. I just looked at the bookstore all the time so I would always look at it. Our House she's doing all the look. She's running out of wig so if anybody wants to send her wigs to do some of their remaining looks and she did one on her husband a couple of days ago. She did the showgirl on him. Oh and there's also a makeup artist that I've been following for awhile. Whose name is anything for. Selena's I believe there's a lot of as S.'s. In there but she is just like the most incredible like avant-garde makeup artist where she does a lot of really just outrageous. Stuff with eyeliner. Te is very inspiring to me liner. Oh guys I bought an eyeliner stamp do and I love him. I said I wasn't brushing my teeth or putting on any makeup but the other day I my daughter wanted to do a photo shoot so I busted out all the stuff I had and this has it. You have a right and a left so it comes in a pack of two and you stamp the wing and then the other side of the PA. The other side of the thing is like a pen so you can just fill it in and it's so much fun good test. It sounds like you're living very French. Lifestyle really letting a four year old do my makeup is not brushing your teeth but wearing eyeliner. You're wearing a guy a very nice like scarf today. I am wearing a Bandana that I got to wear as a face mask but I have decided not to go anywhere for children in the background of the beach so I just keep being like. Oh tests yachting today Philly in my closet. Okay what I can do if I turn my head. I decide erase my body. It's like plastic surgery. It's very Meta now. I'm just ahead before we move on from from number twelve. Looks just like you. I wanted to bring up. This book. Series is why book series that I have read like half of the first one just like in the bookstore when I like in two thousand nine or something whenever it was out and when I was convinced that writing away book would be my ticket out of poverty It's called the uglies which was basically. It's basically like a straight up rip off of number twelve looks just like year except their four books. And it's of course a whole hunger games esque type DYSTOPIA and adventure but it's about a world in which when you start to go through puberty so when you're young you're called a literally like you're just like a little a little human when you turn twelve and you start to go through puberty or call ugly and you're never made an ugly until he turned sixteen. Which is when you get a procedure called the operation which turns you into a pretty and then you become a new pretty and you get to move out of you get to move out of the suburbs into new pretty town where the new pretties live and then as you grow older you become a middle pretty a late pretty late pretties are also called chrome bullies very rolled doll or something. No totally yeah. It's very there are four books. I did not read all of them but I just. I thought that the concept was so hilarious and weird and also predated. You know what we've been talking about where it's suddenly become the norm for young people. Not just you know a gene people to get plastic surgery and it's about a girl who decides she doesn't want to go through the procedure and then there's a whole there's a whole camp of renegade teens who have decided to remain uglies. It really sounds like not the ugliest part specifically but just the kind of way it's constructed reminds me of the tyra banks y Nada novel. My Land Model. We wait what I did not know about they. They're the introduced in episode of top model. It was like a book with her name on it that they put out. And then there was like a pop-up event that open or didn't even open right before cove hit that was like the model land pop up event but it was like hunger games. Where it all this jargon in it and one of the things was like it was like the magical kingdom of pot dome which is model backwards. No I'm looking at Wikipedia for right now. A young saw looking girl by the name of Turkey daily Krim invited to attend the legendary boarding school model and Tyra banks moving to New York to live in an apartment with other models but then threw a hunger games lens. It's the funniest thing in the world. My God derange. Publishers Weekly considered the book overlong campy and worked an nonstop barrage of surrealism in Wacky nece. There's also a Olsen twins way a novel that they put out that's about like like twins like like special twins. A lot of people were branding. Their names on. What about a night calway series? It would never do this thing that. Emily did where it clearly. Someone me probably my parents. They were like you know what you should do is right way books and I was like but I am like old too too old and too young simultaneously to do that and I remember trying to do it and it's like I was just so I was like these are children. I'm writing these like horny books with like murder just being like the kids love this and then being seem so wrong and I think I why I wrote Tire Way Book. That wasn't in Chock full of murder and sex and drug drug overdose. Look you're supposed to be twenty four. I've been reading like pretty little liars and gossip girl in shed. I was like doing my home. It was like a purely mercenary project chose Razi though because I also remember reading gossip girl book when I was in college and being like this seems really bad for teenage girls. Like your inner SKULD. Like your integral. I don't know about this just that it's like I. I don't know there is like a younger person who was tweeting about how why books gave them like unrealistic expectations about how they were gonNA like make out with so many boys as a teenager and like become pretty magically and I was like you know becoming one hundred years old as composed the tweet I was like wow you know when I was young. Why books were all like from the seventies and eighties and they were about like getting a back brace. Are you talking about Izzy Willy? Nilly no I'm talking about the Judy blume one dean Uday. I mean I was like there was tragedy tragedy and like before why I became. Sifi I was like why I just remember it. Being a lot of mundane books about like someone being embarrassed because their mom packed them tuna salad for lunch break middle-class everything was about people dying or cautioned people getting abducted like the the bill carton. I read all the boring ones that were like. Someone gets their period climbing the rope in Jim and Mike. That's the whole of maybe July should be July July. That's not a bad idea. It's a very good idea. Did you guys read the Anastacia Crop? Nick books like that was what I think of. When I think of why I was thinking of Cynthia Voigt. This is the Ezekiel Elliot's book about. A girl who like loses a leg after getting drunk driving accident the whole thing about her just not having to Lake. I am suffering. They're just like in one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand. Maybe this'll be why to May two. There was like all of a sudden there were there. Were a bunch of books that were called like Kristall in the teen section like about crystal math. You Know God yeah. Yeah well we're GONNA take a quick break and when we come back a little more vibe checking on these corona virus times. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them honest prices for as low as two dollars. Each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy. 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Artists always stop them by the hang out and share their lives and music to wake up with a bunch of my friends. I Ninety eight point. Seven W M Z Q in Washington DC or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP. Welcome back tonight. Call Guys. There's so many cures for Kobe. Nineteen I can't even keep track of them anymore. Let's just bring the light inside the body and then pour bleach on the way things out bringing the light inside didn't think about I. There is some life science thing I posted a million years ago where it was about some maybe underwater creature where their eggs are visible is light orbs inside their bodies and I treated like manages jealous of the visible light orbs inside our bodies what you did molly. I was the first thing I thought of. You planted the seed this. So we're we're in the middle of a heatwave feels so strange right now even stranger than it was feeling Just a short time ago but the the stupid president's suggestion that people like maybe what if we injected bleach? What if what? Uv Rays inside your body. Awhile because it sarcasm. Because that's how sarcasm word right. Our friend Elaina Smith pointed out that he sounds just like Jeffrey Epstein when he was talking with scientists just like asking questions that like any smart person known to not even ask a scientist and just being. Yeah I'm just asking questions just spitballing here. Molly you send us an article about Kinda cold called Happy Science. Yeah I forget if we've ever talked about happy science on here before it's like a Japanese kind of scientology It's a good time to talk about them now because they have claimed to have come up with a cure for the corona virus which is just listening to their dear leader's voice can boost your immunity and keep you safe from the corona virus. This was reported in the New York Times earlier this month. Dole at trump here that idea right there called spiritual vaccines. The faithful can be blessed with a ritual prayer to ward off and cure the disease for affi. I wouldn't be surprised. Also some other pastors were kinda doing stuff like that implying that God is GonNa make you. Well you know they did. They did to argue that they should be able to keep holding services after the border So they said you know Jesus will save you. God God's got you don't worry you're coming to church. He won't be mad and give you corona virus so some background on a happy science is that they were. They're kind of like the bridesmaid to home. The like very notorious Japanese Colt. The did the sarin gas attacks in Tokyo So they didn't get the same as that Colt but the leader of of Tried to assassinate the leader of happy. I did not succeed. Japanese culture fascinating. There are so many of them. I don't know why people are so very Susceptible to these things the. Yeah but they've had like the sort of rivalry with with Colt. They had had that rivalry with that Colt for a long time. And they're all kind of Christian tinged too. Yeah which is a weird thing. 'cause obviously like Christianity is not native to Japan. I mean it's been there for hundreds of years but it is not like culturally native to it but there's also like there's similar kinds of things with like Korean Christianity as well people. Aren't that fucking Mega Church. It's a universal thing I do not but every but but I'm an outlier here. I when I was reading about happy science I was like I really. None of this appeals to me. Unlike some colts where there sometimes is like a like a slight hook. Happy Science just seems like cut a dour other than the name. The name is fun. Well yeah they also have a ton of books that they published dislike scientology like they're big in publishing game I guess Keeping print media alive and in this New York Times article some of the titles that they include our alien invasion seven future predictions and spiritual message from the Guardian Spirit of Donald Trump. They also have a lot of books about demons which are very popular. Apparently so I do love a demon. We take a voicemail. All Right Hi. It's Alison from Queen. Calling plastic surgery. April has me thinking about the umbrella of body modification. I just saw spot for the twenty thirteen movie American. Mary Join Katharine Isabelle and directed by office. Sisters which looks at extreme body modification. And a pretty nonjudgmental light. I'm comparing this to the new season of real houses in New York where these women had vaginal rejuvenation on camera recently. Took a stand against tattoos. Where do you think plastic surgeries places in the world of fighting out of -cation and where do you think the range of regular acceptability? It's going thanks. Bye as the real housewives of New York watcher here. They're against tattoos. It was confused if you wanted to get back into real housewives of New York. Now's a great time because what happened is there is a new housewife Bethany. Laughed and Leah. Joined and Leah is like. She has street wear line and she's very like two thousands. New York and she's born and raised in New York and the other women are all from the nineteen eighties. New York so she wanted instead of the canceled. Hbo Series How to Make It in American totally. She's like like these people are such aliens and they find out she has a tattoo and they all shame her about it. And try to be like you tramp. But she's really love. I forget we'll have to watch it again. It's also it's like a fine tattoo and they also just anything they don't understand like what she wears a bucket hat that's mash. It's like national import. Wear like silly things all the time but they see it and they're all like what is this. What what is this about its seat through? It doesn't work but They go to a party at this giant rental property in the Hamptons that's owned by some friends some huge trump donor. I think it's like not even you can live in it. It's just a rental property for like great gatsby parties and it has the worst design of anything you've ever seen just like weird bad fake street art inside it's Hell So they go to that party and they walk in. Leia's like Oh. This is like a rich all horrible white people party. And you're like oh she's been a good party is man that makes me feel for the elder housewives feeling when he can't buy you a party apparently he's true but it's so weird to think lower trying to meet all of all even older rich guys that is there a scene for sure But it is weird to be like getting tramp stamp is trashy but getting a little rejuvenation on screen for Free. Because you did it on. Screen sign not trashy like normal every rental party house. I'm sorry in the world. I've been to in the Hamptons but like they're horrible. I've been to some here for like different. Like tech events and stuff like it's disgusting like only the people with like the worst tastes in the world. Whatever that's what she basically says to Ramona. Which is what makes a good season. You're also like tattoos. Haven't been out trae for like twenty years. Yeah tattooed really like I. Don't everybody's always dodgers lose a time when they were for bikers and sailors along time ago Phil longtime ago? That's like Popeye. That's funny real housewives. Were like what? Are you a sailor? That's hilarious how weird. What a strange they all this. It's an edith wharton novel. I totally recommend it. They all get drunk and start talking about like you know Gilded Age New York when they went to parties with John. John Kennedy John. John John John. We wanted to talk in general this week our last week of plastic surgery April about plastic surgery reality TV which there's a lot of not so much any more but there was definitely a boom of a like ten to twenty years ago and during during the so called golden era of reality television. Which watching some of these shows I would like to maybe redact that it was ever a golden era because these are the most depressing things. You can watch anywhere like maybe in the history of recorded media but yeah what did you guys watch any of these shows this week. I dipped into clips but I. I was shocked. At how little of these? I could stand being a person who was. I'm so ashamed to admit when the swan the first season of the swan came on in two thousand four. I was there for it. I was like I'm excited to watch this show and then I think it took me two episodes to be like. Oh this is this is like an evil show this badge what I thought it would be but I continue to watch it. I watched the entire season. I could not watch the second season but like it's one of those things that makes you feel so gross about yourself like that watching the swan in real time making space in my like evening for the Suon pretty much. That's probably like my afterlife. Fate will be determined by the fact that I watched one but then I tried to watch so botched I want a famous face and the swan are the three that we kind of looked into. I I WANNA famous face for some reason is the worst to me. It could radio that it's bad. I think terrible terrible but it's still on which is it's like an it's like six season or something. That's the only one of these that it's still going both. I wonder if even speaks only ran for twelve episodes so he's only twelve episodes of it was just seasons seasons. Someone alerted me to the existence of a show called bridal plastic. Oh yes after. Yeah forgot about Bravo bridal plastic that five years ago or something does extreme makeover still exists. I don't know I only remember extreme makeover homemade trash. I remember I remember. There was an extreme makeover. That was like for you. I think home edition was the spin off navy. I know but yeah title. Lassen eating feel though I mean I I will say I WANNA famous face which I watched quite a bit of this week. I mean Probably like three episodes of it. I watched because just whatever I could find on Youtube. I wonder if he is like a horror movie in that it is quite disgusting. Like you really see a lot of the surgery there. There are multiple times where I'd just like shrieked at my outlook. I tried to what it was like. They the you said this one where it was This Elvis impersonator and he was undergoing surgery and they would make incisions and the knee would like manipulate. The wound was horrible. I don't even. I'm not that squeamish and it and then there's a bunch where they're doing people's noses and when you see somebody like actually getting their nose. Saad at it's just like remember it's the MIC. It's just the neck I have to just so I just looked into it. So extreme makeover indeed was a two thousand Chula. Show that that depicted. I'm quoting from wikipedia. Excuse me depicts. Ordinary men and women undergoing quote extreme makeovers involving plastic surgery. Exercise Regimens hairdressing and wardrobing. So that it was cancelled in two thousand seven And then extreme makeover home edition is the spin off and there's another spin off. That's a weight loss edition. Isn't your house. Just your body. Will this is the thing? I love a good renovation show. I know that they're like cheap. You know it's a cheap form of entertainment. I hate it I so I mean. Now what is addicted? And all of my memories of extreme makeover home edition is the it's always sunny. Philadelphia like bombard this unsuspecting family with a with a home renovation. I haven't sounds great day like they make a bed for the kid. It'd be fun for the kids because it's like a Taco place. Steve is yellow me. How do they get the world anyway? But Yeah I did watch it a lot of what was his name ty Pennington or Pennington. Kind of very strange. I have to say though that like this old house I watched a lot and watch this like which of these do. I watch fixer upper. I was on a real fixer. Upper this aired hurry. This old house was a good show because it was like like a PBS. Show about how to renovate brand old fixer upper. But it's like for you to live in. The other shows are about house flipping. Which is no fixer. Upper is really. It's people buying the houses. And then having them fixer. Upper D- to live in ostensibly some of them but some of them stay. Love it or list it half the people. We have the People's Day right and trading spaces. You're staying. You're just having like your you know sadistic neighbor make everything purple and everything green. I hate those shows because they do two houses. What instagram face does faces? You know right that guy find to be like me so much ship lab. She's like the most. She's like our new oprah like she so fucking rich. I make jar atheist thematic of all of them like if it were like Taco bad. I'd be into it. You know they were like trading spaces so finding is that trading spaces has a lot of that. I just don't I don't have the lust. The House last will funny. I'm looking now. I thought I wanted to famous. I want a famous face. I thought was a more recent show but it was also ran from two thousand and four to two thousand five so it seems like that was the hot spot for these extreme makeover shows. Swan Swan was also two thousand four. Yeah and that was when it was new so there was a point when they were like. We're pushing the boundaries of what can be shown on network television in prime time and we were watching it. I definitely watch the Swan. Say thank you so I never really watched the sun. I'd seen bits and pieces of it but I watched some of it on Youtube this week and like I find the swan to be much more. Psychologically upsetting then I mean obviously I seen these clips were. They were kind of just truncated. They're just doing the reveals. But when it's like because they wouldn't let the person the contestant see themselves no mirrors months no Mir's three months without mirrors and they couldn't be run their families and stuff so these peop- these women have been living in isolation like healing from their surgeries and going through these weight loss regimen or whatever and they were all horrified when they emerge like. Yeah all she was in her recovery. The winner the winner season one. I think Rachel. Yeah was that her name. I read on this down. I'm not crazy I was like really. I thought I'd left the swan behind. But apparently Rachel's husband was kind of coached When they when he was doing the lake you know confessional interviews or whatever during the process he they said how do you think about how Rachel looks and he was apparently initially said that she's beautiful and then they he was coached to to like come on? How do you know? Let's let's be like a little more critical so he was like well she's average. She's beautiful when she's happy and then they used that so it was like the the producer kind of manipulation of it made for like a story that was like. Oh these poor ugly people. Let's recreate them from scratch. Let's mold them but in actuality like the relationship was destroyed. Obviously but I. I mean that can have helped. I'm sure it wasn't the extent of what was up yet. Fox Fox especially being like we're in an arms race to see who can do the worst thing in a reality. Yeah 'cause did they. Do Joe Millionaire as well. Yes it did. Yeah how how could anyone else have done? Joe Millionaire but the creator of the Swan. Nellie Galon was the former president of entertainment for Telemundo and also on the celebrity apprentice in two thousand eight show and I will say the show I ended up watching botched which have never seen before but since I started watching Kardashians again. It's like now I can watch e shows well and that's where it lives so I watched the most recent episode which was called Bouba Razzi. The titles of the botched episodes are off the chain Super Kupa shortchanged at the Nipple Bank. The wizard of Shaw's four leeches and a funeral vagina. Bom maybe somebody. Somebody tweeted at me to say that they had to closed caption some botched episodes and that there was there's no blurring when you are doing the close captioning and they up because there was no giant threw up of China with gangrene What do you mean and that was from? A botched plastic surgery gave the vagina angry. Possibly something gave a gangrene so okay the botched I watched it was actually called Bouba. Roddy 'cause it was like the luminosity but the title okay. The title refers to. I didn't use like the cream of the crop of the the boob ladies. But it's like two women who have extreme plastic surgery where they've gotten the biggest boobs you can get and then. They went to get more in Belgium. Like extreme surgeries there. So they're the kind of people where I'm like. They're taking this to a point where it has nothing to do with like male desire. It's about their own desire to have huge boobs. And when they showed this woman before the whole thing was that she was like flat chested originally and then she was married and then when she got divorced. She got the big boobs. She was like. It's my body. I'm GonNa do what I want. Always wanted huge boobs. I'M GONNA go get them and then it was like. They weren't big enough for her. She wanted them even bigger And then she had a friend who came to the surgery with her because basically she was like the the point of the episode that she wanted and asked to match now she was like I've gotten a couple of surgeries but like they haven't given me what I want. Which is like this. But in the back you know like cartoon hits but for an ass there is a darkness that dwells in the center of the world hiding away as it grows and thrives surrounding itself in Gloom. This darkness isn't the kind that comes from the absence of light. It's the kind where malevolent forces flourish. It's the kind that make up the nightmares that kept you awake as a child clutching your blanket as you cry for your parents. It's vile icy fingers tightening around your throat. Stifling your screams. It's the kind you cannot escape. No matter how hard you try it works. Its way into your soul slowly corrupting you. From the inside out until it ultimately consumes you leaving nothing but an empty hollow shell in. Its wake listened to lighthouse on the iheartradio. App ON APPLE PODCASTS. Or wherever you get your podcast. What does is it? Sets up the guys. Who are the doctors on the show? Who are on real housewives? Both of them at different points. Dr Sif and Don Messy Bro. Adrian's husband to the creep not anymore to the guys in the world yeah. Dr Dubrow was on Hudson's Orange County every I think he was on this one as well as the creeps and they have this banter they show them like bantering about the surgeries at the desk. Which is probably because premiered on NIP TUCK DOT did and this is the aesthetic but they do like banter about you know spooning with their wives and stuff and then they're like okay time to go take this. Chinon plan out in the span of this one episode. The plot lines were a woman who genuinely needed reconstructive surgery because she had had a bad breast implant and it made her breasts look like what her friend called an elephant trunk where skin had come off the implant and they like showed it a bunch of times and then the women with the big boobs wanted to buy but they were like we can't do too fat transfers at the same time because that might kill you it makes it makes the doctors on. Bosch look like the reasonable ones. Because they're like well. We can't do that. That'll kill your showing some restraint which yeah never otherwise would show right. And they're like well compared to these other like we're the high-end version of this you got the low end version and that's the problem is you didn't spend enough money on your surgery the first time and now you have to make up for it the other guy. This was super saddened very Heidi Montag. There was a guy who is like. It's just sad I was like I became self conscious because of social media and because I went to school in South Florida where the most beautiful people in the world are and I realized. My face wasn't how I liked it. So I got a chin implant but he got a crooked chain implant so he got like a Ben Affleck Chin put in but it's tilted to one side. God's Jaunty just live with it. He showed it in profile he was like look like American. Dad I hate it then rather than get the bad. Chinon plan taken out. He got cheek fillers put in he got those like fake cheekbones put in because he thought that would balance it out on his parents and sister had no idea and they showed him going to tell his parents who live in again. Colorado just like Heidi Montag. He's like normal people parents and he's like hey guys remember when I said I had a bike accident like I actually just got Pasig Surgery. And they're like. Oh No that's horrible. Wi fine there's nothing wrong with. He's like half Asian and half white too. So I also just was like Darren criss and Johnny for Saatchi show named. Yeah like He. He looked fine before he was like a good looking guy but he looks like a white. My White Guide Tan White Beach Guy or some yeah like a bomber and so he gets the Chinen plan take out and they're like this is like so fucked up. We've never seen this. That's what they say. Anytime they take something out in the show. The surgery super disgusting and hard to watch. Which is I guess. Good that they show how gross and horrible it is right and then he comes back in because he's like I feel like my face looks bad without it. You're kidding no I mean this is the thing like this so I was going to bring this up because I do think botch which I've never really watched. But I feel like I've watched by proxy because I used to edit terror area `nos recaps of it for Grantland so who treat the description of everything that happened. Be Glad I didn't have to watch that. But it always felt like even if it was even if those guys are gross like Terry Dubrow and Paul Nassif or like like it does feel cautionary. At least like maybe think twice before you go in for something like this even if it is sort of advertising like Oh but the you know the thing that guy you enter this and get you out of it but I feel like I think ultimately I wanNA famous face does come office cautionary to even if like incredibly exploitive because they always have this disclaimer at the beginning. That says this person wanted to do this surgery. We're not pushing them toward like they came to UN saying like I wanna look like Carmen Electra. So we did you know it's the true life thing. Whatever like they weren't being pushed into this by anybody. But like then you just get these portraits of people who are so especially in the case of wanting to look like a specific celebrity. It's like it's not even like I want to augment already have it's like no. I hate my face. Delete delete delete. I want to look like Carmen Electra. And my boyfriend loves it. My boyfriend is so excited for me to look like Carmen Electra. Who who like who like it just feels. It's really sad. It's very sad to watch. I know you guys don't watch Vander Pump. But there's a whole plotline. Jack makes his girlfriend Brittany get breast. Implants remember that made her well. It's like she says she wants But when they get into the clinic and they're talking about what size they're going to be in the doctor's like you don't WanNa go that big Jackson's like I'm paying for them like yeah. They'll be because I want them. Why don't watch founder pump to be honest that go for for I mean it is also like Britney is like into it. I think that's one of the first things they ask you is like. Is somebody else trying to make you do? Yeah then there was also a woman on this episode. The woman with the fucked up breast implant where it was just like. She'd had breast implants. That weren't that great when she was nineteen and then she had them taken out when she got married because her husband wasn't a boob guy she was like and then I got divorced. And I'm like he's not a boob guy but I am so like I got new implants and then just like she immediately had pain. She was talking about how she had to like. Touch like pull the implant into the flash through like all the time because it would like push against the flash and be uncomfortable. Oh my God. What do you mean like the muscle or not itself? It was like the implant was detached from the skin or something but I mean do we keep talking about Yolanda Yolanda though but she kinda foster but then she divorced David. What's her last name now? Just she's just. He'll along with the lemon fridge and everybody knows who young lemons and she's always Wanda Hadid. Formerly Yolanda Foster. Okay she the the lime disease plot line with her which I feel like for like six seasons or something and went on forever and ever going on her instagram late. Never going to go away but there was a part where she seemed to have cured it by taking out her implants her implants were leaching into her body and making her really sick and there is also a woman on an episode of. I WANNA famous face. Who had so. They found two people who wanted to look like Carmen Electra and they did a mini segment about one of them who who got implants and a bunch of other stuff done and like basically like poisoned herself with them and like couldn't walk anymore like she had been an athlete and like a cheerleader and stuff and then couldn't walk anymore because she poisoned her body with bad implants like now. That's a why novel Labor. Noth I mean the. Mtv always like had a healthy dose of like here's how bad the recovery processes like. They were not ever just infomercials for. You should get plastic surgery. They were always like I mean they were always like people should have counseling especially people that wanted you. Extreme physical modifications is usually a psychological reason. Oh however that was like the part of the Swan that was most reviled when they had a therapist so they had like a cosmetic dentist. Plastic surgeon somebody out like fitness instructor or something and then a therapist and the therapist only had a degree from an online college which was revealed later and everyone was like not a real therapist but she. These were taped therapy sessions. So they were. It was really to try and like add this. You know a depth to the makeover of like we're making her over inside and psychologically whole new person But that was like the part that really upset people the most was obviously. It's like a fake for show therapy session. But what's being divulged is real and like what's being manipulated is coming from a real place so in a way. If it hadn't had that it would have lacked a huge achey factor that it decided to include mean just including the I think a show mandating that he therapist meet with someone who's about to maybe make a huge mistake something for the show in a way it makes it even worse because it's just posturing and it could be manipulative and dangerous away that without the therapist it wouldn't be. Yeah it's like an also it's sort of this implication even without knowing specifically what's talked about in these sessions implication that like you looked the way you did the they're always super big on the femininity too. It's like the word that's like I look so fan. And that's what they always say when they see themselves which is just so crazy. But but the idea that that you would need to be in therapy. Because there's something wrong with your your psyche that has made you non feminine. It's just so itchy. It's so gross. I am just like media does work so hard to convince you that like the only way that like men love or like us if you're the most beautiful woman in the world and then if you look to reality not television It's like regular people find love all the time sometimes with other regular looking people and they find each other beautiful and it's like it sucks to be an ugly woman and it also sucks to be a super beautiful woman. They both just suck. You know like trippy somebody. It just sucks to be regardless. It's somebody who doesn't like like the way they look and can't get over it and can't find a way through it like whether you are somebody that most people would think is our is beautiful and or somebody that most people think we're average or below average or whatever it doesn't matter if eight yourself then like it sucks to be you it also sucks to even just care a lot about how you look even if you don't dislike it yet because that opens up the possibility that you will one day really hate how you look at sort of feel about like the insults to as it's like if they did get off the computer and spend more time outside and like work on developing just like a personality than like women will like you. I feel like people talking in an echo chamber to themselves about how no one can ever love them. It's like well no one ever will if you never leave this echo chamber. Where like. You're all convinced that you're like ugly and unlovable all of your examples of social interaction or coming from media and fictional media. Then yes if you believe that. Like if you get the Chin implant that's GonNa make women like you but then you will be self conscious always that it's not the real y-you or that they're liking won't respect them because they love the pieces silicone. It might have been like my big vision. I mean I didn't even know about chimpanzee. That was the thing I learned about on Vander Pumpers for the first time. Casaus big implants like an I. I've known several people who've had either implants or because you can do a juvenile conversion of a to. That's that's temporary. I also want to say that like the stereotype that everybody in Los Angeles like gets plastic. Surgery is not true. You Know Lake Chair. Most people are normal and I was just say it's more like rich. People get plastic surgery everywhere. Yeah Lake and if you WANNA see the really bad plastic surgery and you do go to Beverly Hills like it can be found. You know I do think what botched is dealing with. A lot is sort of just houses that have been flipped a few too many times. You know what I'm saying. I mean that's that's botched. Has this weird appeal. It seems more humane than the others because ostensibly there to fix a problem. That isn't like an internal per you know self image problem but it's an actual medical problem. That's causing discomfort and their swooping in to fix it. The problem is I and and I think it's hard too because I know that. For instance like if you bank your head and you get like a big gash in your forehead and you go to the hospital. You're supposed to they say request a plastic. Certainly don't you know if a plastic surgeons available? You WanNA plastic surgeon to work on a facial wound because they'll take more care to make sure that you know. The SCAR is invisible. If that's what you're going for which I guess mostly is but I mean like I love it too. I have one. I have one from bonking my head. I mean we. I got mad scars. Both of my kids have like little scars because They both had a run in with a coffee table at different times in their lives. We did not request a plastic surgeon. Because we were just like it's small back. I got in trouble on your bike. No it's just running down the hallway outside the lime and company opened a door and I was door knob height. I can't see it though. Molly little stitches but that was the first time I've ever had like Surgery I guess even though the twos I guess it's just the idea of like botched doing a service that's like a. I guess a necessary service but I think like molly saying the most noticeable bad plastic surgery is just the result of too much plastic surgery. And and you know if you're if you have kind of a facial dismore Fiat where you get the surgery but it's not quite right so you get another surgery at all of that is destroying tissue and giving people less to work with an obviously scary ones are the really subtle ones. This is what I was GONNA say. This kate raft has seen called. Every celebrity has subtle new job about just like the day. She realized that every celebrity has a subtle Shaab. And it's not true. It's not true but there's a lot of people who I won't name on this podcast that I didn't know had no jobs and then I looked at the before and after it was like. Oh they did have a nose job. I mean here is the thing like my counter to the thing. I said a little bit ago where it's just like you know like the face that you have and it the worst thing is just if you hate your face like. I've written about this before because of my facial thing but like I have a a permanent look on my face that makes people think that I am sign them and think they're stupid and I have had so many people who are like you're so snobby and Sassy and I'm like I'm just smiling at you like that. I would always have this with my my driver's license because I would I would. I would try to do a neutral face in my driver's license. And then you know if I had to show it to anybody it'd be like Oh you're copping Tude piglet around like no. I was just trying to smile. I don't hate everybody that I'm looking at. It doesn't seem like hate to me. It seems like a Sassy like the beef from b-movie it's like I like Shrek really does animated character. That's horrible just means that like it's like a Sassy like your. I would always feeling Sassy. That's the thing and like I think that I you know. Full disclosure aside from that I have had other very subtle things done to my face. And it's really kind of incredible because people respond to it and they don't know what they're responding to the like. Oh you look so fresh and like there's nothing like it's not. I haven't told anybody anything. And it's just like these little which that's why that stuff is creepy. Because it's just like nobody is thinking like. Oh you got worked. Any look incredible as just like some things different. Yeah I feel like I don't have to feel like I can achieve that effect with Mascara because I have lashes. I just don't believe when people say those things to me even if they're like oh you're being. Sassy I feel like what they're trying to communicate something much more sinister evil. That's coming from inside of them when they're like you look good. I'm like they want something from me. They want me to feel like they're a nice person at all I to me. It's all just like coming from within the person that I'm dealing with has nothing to do with me at all. I don't wear a bag and they could be like ten cases like this rubber thing. That's on over my face and has very little relation to lake. What I'm actually feeling so I'm used to the sort of like gap and perception all the time. Which is very a little bit crazy making and also why stuff like the swine where you were really truly altering your face like to not look like yourself at all. That is like kind of makes my stomach churn. That feels like really terrifying to me because I already feel like. I don't look how I I think I look. Which is it's just like a crazy mind. Fuck little tweaks though in the way that they are able to package injectables as being different from like full-on surgery. Because they are you know. But just like it's just a little needle in your face. You don't have to like go under anything. That seems strange because it does seem like in the past like if you have thin lips you were just kinda like that's what you get you know and you just learn to wear lip liner and so the line baby soda me just learn. Yeah no that totally. That my favorite look of all time. Yeah also I feel like we all have lips. Were all fine. I don't care about where all ninety s ladies so we don't like we are not afflicted by this thing right if you if I cared I mean I. I don't think I have like big lips like lifestyle choice. I'm so dehydrated would like if I drink. Water would be so amazing. I people will be like have you had worked. It'd be like oh I drink like sixty four ounces. Drink water yeah well. Interestingly just hose it down but I think it's just like one of those things though were if you start thinking like Oh you know. We'll at least I don't have thin lips but like here's what my problem area is. You know it's it. Destroys your whole life. It's horrible. I think if they offer something where you're like well I have this but now that this exists you know now that could get lip filler. Life is on the menu. Now order extra oysters. One thing. That's been really funny to me as I've been browsing through. The facial filters on Instagram is finding out that like all of the key ones have freckles. Like a lot of influence. Girls have like fake freckles. Which is just funny as somebody with real freckles. Because I did the auto Like face tune on you and it just evaporated your for your face. Tuned gets rid of freckles. But there's all these cute like butterfly pretty girl filters and they all have like a sprinkling of freckles. Which looks super weird on you if you already have right. Well freckles freckles. I feel like the attitude toward freckles. Is is always is in constant state of flux largely because freckles. You obviously now see freckles and you think Oh sun damage like skin cancer but then there was an article that we talked about on this podcast that I hold so tightly for my own sanity where they said that. If you don't get any sun like if you completely cover up and words sunblock on your face and you never get any sun that your long term risks of Health issues from a lack of vitamin D are actually more serious than dealing with a little bit little bit escape limit. Skin cancer struggles. People do think freckles are like healthy because it means you've got a little bit of Sun. They did but then. I think that the kind of backlash against freckles was being told by your dermatologist. Like freckles are are sunspots sun damage. It's your means you're going to be wrinkly means you're unhealthy whereas like some people just have freckles to. It's definitely they they darken in the sun. But it's not necessarily. It's not how you look is not an indication of health as as nineties. Ladies as we are saying like maybe maybe it's okay if you don't look fifteen forever but you got some Sun and had a nice time. Yeah I mean that's that's all that I would wanNA look like. I want to look like somebody who's laughed and smiled. Elena my lines and shit like that or like. I don't know why people want to get rid of that beautiful. We'll say all the like hot older French actresses that I was like. They seem to be aging. Well then my mom will be like subtle. Plastic surgery absolutely absolutely. Yeah no it's just like away. If you were gonNA get plastic surgery. Probably France would be a good place to Alena. Smith's been posting a lot of pictures of the depression era. Famous photograph of a woman with on your lines of life style goals. A little bit always have always been like that woman in the Dorothy. Alang photograph like she lived a life. Mattis sucked. But like it'll be interesting to talk to hell. Yeah well this wraps up our journey and Plastic Surgery Abe role. 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Jack Jones

True Crime Fan Club Podcast

28:14 min | 1 year ago

Jack Jones

"Explicit content is found in this episode. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome back to the true crime fan club podcast. I'm your host. He in the small town of bald. Knob Arkansas in nineteen ninety five to brutal murders and sexual attacks. Shook the community these crimes were committed by three different men. One of them was later found to be a serial killer. Okay. Onto the show. On June, six nineteen ninety five and automated tax and accounting services and bald knob Mary Phillips was working. When her oldest daughter Darya dropped off her younger daughter, Lacey Lacey had a dentist appointment that afternoon at around three o'clock pm and then Mary lacy. We're going to return home around four thirty or five o'clock pm. However, they never returned home. Darla contacted James her father who was five hundred miles away on a business trip to let him know that their mother and little sister Lacey had not returned home jeans asked Orla to see if her mother's car had been broken down close to home, then told her to stay indoors and wait for her to return around the Lovin PM James received a call saying he needed to return home because something had happened James packed his bags called soup. Adviser and began the drive home. Their children had contacted the local police department to let them know their mother had not returned home and the police found her vehicle at the tax service. They contacted someone with a key and around three thirty AM were able to make entry into the building. Police found Mary Phillips body nude from the waist down. The criminal investigation division of the white county sheriff's office was contacted and detective Bill Lindsay responded to the scene which was taped off and closed until investigators could arrive Jere Howard from the Arkansas state. Police was also notified detective Lindsay discovered. Mary with the cord from a Mr. coffee pot around her neck and wire around her hands. She had defensive wounds on her arms and back indicating she had put up a fight with her attacker. She also had blunt force trauma to her head during the later on. Autopsy they discovered she had also been sodomized as investigators continued to photograph the scene they noticed blood coming from under the door of the bathroom and opened it to find eleven year old lacy tied to a chair. They believed she was also dead and began photographing her body just as detective Lindsay took a photograph of her face lacy open her eyes. She was flown by helicopter to Arkansas children's hospital and Little Rock approximately sixty miles south of bald knob way see had also been choked and was beaten severely. She had been hit with a BB gun so hard in the head that the gun stock had shattered and she had severe skull ASA rations despite her severe injuries. She was able to give the investigators information about their Salen lacy recalled a tattoo around his eye. Which immediately sparked a recollection with ball Napoli's officers. The suspect they had in mind was Jack Jones Moise told the officers at she asked the man not to hurt her mother. And he replied, quote, I'm not I'm going to hurt you Jones had earlier painted a sign outside the tax service. Then went into the business claiming he wanted to borrow a book he came back a short while later telling Mary and Lacey that he was sorry because he was going to have to rob them. He made Lacey lay down on top of Mary while he robbed them, then took them to a break room. He then separated them and began his horrendous assault Arkansas state police investigator, Jerry bronc, Dan went to Jerry's house around midday on June seventh nineteen ninety five and ask Jack Jones if you would accompany them to the white county sheriff's office Jones agreed. And once at the sheriff's office. Was read his rights and signed a waiver of set writes, he confessed to the crimes and admitted that he had committed these crimes because his wife had been raped, but the police had done nothing about it. He wanted to get revenge against the police Jack Jones was born on August tenth nineteen sixty four until Lido Ohio. His sister Lynn, Scott said they were close, although she and other family members stated that on Jones's first birthday. He suffered a high fever and convulsions. He was Lear diagnosed with tension deficit disorder and given Ritalin the Ritalin likely caused the hallucinations of bugs and spiders that he later suffered from Jones would often bang his head against cupboards in nineteen eighty nine. He attempted suicide and again in nineteen ninety one when he jumped off a bridge just months before he murdered Mary Phillips. He was admitted to pinnacle point a psych. Theatric hospital in Little Rock Arkansas due to the severe, depression, and suicidal thoughts. He was experiencing at this time. He was diagnosed as BI polar and prescribed lithium Jones had started taking drugs at an early age beginning with marijuana out the time of Mary's murder. He was using methamphetamine jacket suffered from physical abuse from his father and sexual abuse from three strangers who abducted him and then raped him. But the record is not clear on what age this occurred. Jack Jones was charged with capital murder in the death of Mary Phillips and attempted murder in the assault and attempted murder on lacy Phillips he awaited his trial at the jail in y county where incoming and outgoing mail had to be read during one such task one of the jailers intercepted mail that described applaud for Jones to escape the state hospital while he was there for his mental. Evaluation. The letter was to his wife and the jailer immediately turned it over to her. Supervisor who advised detective Lindsay the jailer was interviewed by JR Howard and Jones ended up being even more closely guarded during his mental evaluation. Jack was sentenced to death on April seventeenth nineteen Ninety-six. After jury took only thirty minutes to return a guilty verdict. His defense attorneys only called one witness a physician whose license had been surrendered due to alcohol and drug abuse. And who left Jones's chart in his car the morning. He testified Chris raff was the prosecutor on the case, and he had already successfully prosecuted. Three death penalty cases Jones was transported to the Varner unit. Where Arkansas male death row inmates are housed. It is located south of pine bluff and his adjacent to the actual death chamber female death row. Inmates. In Arkansas are held in the McPherson unit in Newport, Arkansas Jones filed the normal appeals the main one being the states should not have been allowed to show graphic photographs of lacy during his trial. One of these pictures showed Lisi's expose skull. The appeal was denied while Jackson on death row. A cold case in Florida was getting colder, and colder Laurine and Barrett. Thirty two at the time was from rural Pennsylvania, she had traveled to Fort Lauderdale on may thirty first nineteen Ninety-one. Her mother had reservations about Lorraine going alone. But her daughter shirt her saying, quote, don't worry mom. I'm going to lie on the beach and have a good time. Laurine arrived in Fort Lauderdale and checked into her days in room at around nine thirty AM. She contacted her friend Laura lacy who lived in the area to let her know that she had arrived, and that she was meeting. Friend at coconuts, the friend never showed. And so Lorraine ended up meeting a man at a bar called the elbow room. Lori said that she and Lorraine were very close Laura who had some health issues said that Lorraine was very special and helped her by always being there for her Laura was planning on hosting a cookout for Lorraine while she was in Fort Lauderdale detective, Tom Maggie Festa said that the man Lorraine med was soft spoken and friendly other patrons in the bar described his tattoos, and that he claimed he got them in various parts of the world marine and the man left the bar then returned short time later before heading to the days in bar around two am they were seen getting into the elevator together? Which was the last time. Anyone Sala rain alive marine was found around eleven thirty AM on June first nineteen ninety one she had been raped. And strangled less than five hours. After being in Fort Lauderdale, a composite sketch of the man was issued and his many tattoos were described and included in his description, particularly the barbed wire on his wrist along with the hearts with names on them in two thousand three Fort Lauderdale police Detective, John Curzio was informed that there had been a hit on a national DNA database in the Lorraine Barrett case the sample matched that of Jack Jones the composite and tattoo information. Also matched that of Jones Curzio contacted lorraine's father John to give him the good news, John then called marine sister. Roberta at work to let her know the good news as well. She issued a statement to the papers saying, quote, it's the news. You always wanted to hear and always hope to hear. But to hear it from out of the blue. It was overwhelming. Because it was so unexpected police served a fugitive warrant to Jones Varner, which started the process to bring him back to Florida to face charges of first degree murder and sexual battery in April two thousand five Jack pleaded guilty to first degree murder in the Lorraine Barrett. Murder case in exchange for this guilty plea, the judge waived the death penalty, and he was given life without parole for her death, Florida. Authorities obtained special permission from governor Mike Huckabee to fly Jack Jones to Florida to stand trial. He was held at the Broward County jail. Magellan TV is a new type of documentary. Streaming provider determined to bring you the finest documentaries from around the globe new programs are added on a weekly basis, and your could be watched anytime anywhere on your television, laptop or mobile device featured genres include true crime history, science, space, and nature. My favorite thus far is still the crime and mystery genre. 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And when you use my special link, you'll get your first month of treatment for free go to with cove dot com slash TC FC. That's w I t h CO V E dot com slash TC. FC? Jones continued to appeal his convictions on various points, while he awaited an execution date and word from his appeals. He was contacted by Gina grim, Gino was his biological daughter who had been put up for adoption at birth. She had been curious as to who her biological parents were and when she turned eighteen she went to court to have her birth certificate released. She found out who were father was then began researching what she could about him. She was of course, somewhat shocked about his crimes, she realized she had been blessed and had lived a somewhat sheltered life. But she also realized how lucky she was to have her adoptive parents. However, she did one Jones to know she was doing well. And that his decision to put her up for adoption was the right one the two struck up a correspondence. And she quickly. Boxes of letters from him and paintings. He had made for her to children, however before Gina could meet her biological father face to face, Arkansas. Governor ASA Hutchinson ordered the execution of eight inmates before the state's store of Maderas lamb expired. This is one of three drugs used by the state when conducting lethal injections, the drug would expire on April thirtieth two thousand seventeen so the executions would have to take place before then the executions would occur in pairs between April seventeenth and April twenty seventh. Jack was set to die on April twenty fourth along with Marcel Williams the weekend before Jones was set to die. Gina grim. Contacted anti-death penalty activists got Langley and Randy garner to ask if they would be covering James's execution on Facebook live. She explained who she was and they arranged for her to fly into Little Rock to meet Joe. Owns face to face for the first time. The state of Arkansas does not allow family members of the executed to witness execution. So Gina and Jones sister Lynn had to stand outside the prison as the execution took place. Jack Jones was served a last meal of three pieces of fried chicken potato logs with tartar sauce three butter fingers. A chocolate shake with butterfinger pieces and fruit punch due to Jones's size and health problems. It took officials forty five minutes to insert central line to administer the life ending drugs, which many death penalty. Critics claim is unethical because only medical professionals should insert a central line. Jack Jones was pronounced dead at seven twenty pm. It was said it took fourteen minutes for him to die. Some media. Witnesses reported that Jones was gasping for air after his last words. So this one Marcel Williams sm-. Slated to die before midnight that night unless minute temporary stay of execution. However, it was later determined that Jack was talking to the department of corrections director Wendy Kelly after the microphone had switched off. Jones was thinking Kelly for being so nice and was apologizing to her Jack Jones's last words were dressed to the Phillips family. He said, quote, well, I just wanna let the Phillips family, and Lacey know, how sorry I am. I can't believe I did something to her. I tried to be respectful from the time. I took and become a better person. I hope I did better. I hope over time. You can learn who I really am. And know that I'm not a monster. There was a reason why those things happen that day. I am. So sorry Lacey. Try to understand I love you like my child. He also wrote a statement for his attorney. As to read I want people to know that when I came to prison, I made up my mind that I would be a better person when I left than when I came in. I had no doubt in my mind that I would make every effort to do this. I like to think that I've accomplished this. There are no words that could fully express my remorse for the pain caused in two thousand seven Jack had given his sister Lynn letter and explain to her not to open it until one year after his execution. He had told detective Curzio Fort Lauderdale that he had murdered one other woman in that he would reveal this after his death in the letter he instructs his sister to contact John mongo Curzio who will know who to contact. His sister upheld his wishes and in two thousand eighteen open the letter she presented the letter to the proper authorities and in February two thousand nineteen DNA testing. Confirm that Jack Jones was a confirmed murderer in thirty six year old case that another man had pled no contest to and had been sentenced to fifty years. The letter to Lynn exhort her not to make the revelation of this additional murder into a circus. He does not want to cause additional pain to her family after all these years and says, quote, if and win I want you to let these people know, I had you do this that I wanted them to know, it's one thing to learn that their daughter's killer has finally been brought to Justice one way or the other, but it's more. So of closure instance, when the information came about peacefully without resistance. So that peace is added to peace rather than adding to a measure element of negativity. Jones also says in the letter that the woman he murdered Regina haunted him for three years after confirmation of the DNA the Broward County. State's attorney's office asked to judge toss out Stewart's murder conviction based on the DNA evidence that Jack Jones committed the crime, although Stewart had passed away in two thousand eight from cancer while still in prison, the state's attorney's office and the Hollywood police department agreed that it was only appropriate that the record must be such straight on me. Second nineteen Eighty-three Regina Harrison twenty years old was last seen alive when she left her parents house to go for an evening. Bike ride to Hollywood Florida's north beach. Regina was found the next day in the secluded woods of Hollywood's Westlake park. She was nude and had been strangled her bicycle was found nearby with her clothes neatly folded. The autopsy revealed she had been sexually assaulted and strangled. Regina Harrison had returned home three days before her murder for summer vacation. She was attending Palm Beach Atlantic college in West Palm Beach, Florida Regina was a well light south Broward high school graduate who grew up in down. Yeah. Her friends and teachers said she was mild mannered cheerful and trusting in outstanding Sudanese who liked to talk with others about her Christian faith. Her brother said that his sister was extremely kind and would have found a job in profession to help others after regina's body was found a jungle recalled seeing her on her bike around six forty two pm alongside a man on a bicycle they were casually chatting as they wrote in the area of scotch street and the boardwalk heading north towards Sheridan street. An arrest was not made in the case for several months until the jogger picked out a photograph of Ronald Stewart and October nineteen Eighty-three when Fort Lauderdale police sent his. Photograph to the Hollywood police. Ronald Stewart was a parking valet and serial rapist who had been convicted and two states Stewart had been serving time in Mississippi where he had also previously been convicted of burglaries and served three years of nine year sentence. He was paroled December nineteen eighty two for those charges. Ronald Henry Stewart was sentenced by Broward, Circuit Judge berry stone to fifty years in prison to be served concurrently with the fifty year term imposed in nineteen eighty three for several Fort Lauderdale rapes Stewart pleaded no contest to second degree rape Stewart's murder sentence coincided with the previous rape sentences. But the additional finding of guilt in the murder case would extend his possibility of parole allegedly store confess to a fellow Florida inmate who said that Stewart told him he had been writing bikes with a girl then choked her to death. Richard Harrison regina's brother said the family was shocked to learn that steward had not committed the crime. But were relieved the killer had been brought to Justice Richard said that Stewart never denied the crime, even when appearing before the parole board in Mississippi, Chris raff, the prosecutor who convicted him of Mary Phillips murderer set at the time of Jack Jones's trial. He had not known of the other murders, but the brutality of Mary's murder. Convinced him that Jones would kill again if ever given the chance investigators in Florida and other locations are comparing Jack Jones DNA to several unsolved crimes. According to the letter written to his sister. He had moved from Florida back to a high. Oh, so Florida, Ohio and Arkansas are potential states that he could have committed murder in as note from Suzy who researched and wrote this episode. She has a very compelling experience that she'd like to share and I'm going to read what she submitted. I worked in the jail when Jack Jones was an inmate awaiting sentencing. In fact, we had ten murders at one time in our jail. I think this was a record for white county. Jack was housed under suicide watch for the entire time. He was there. But in retrospect, this was probably done more for his own protection from the general population based on the brutality of his crimes against Lacey more. So than his two aside tendencies, although I'm not sure those existed I worked predominantly nine one one while working there, but also worked in the jail at times when working in the jail, I often had to take Jack to and from meetings with clergy or his attorneys or to the activity yard. I was never frightened to do any of this on my own. Jack was actually a very charming individual with a sense of humor who would always speak to me or Joe. With me when I walked past him. It's sad that he had mental issues and his family did not get him assistance in his youth. Knowing someone who was executed was weird because it made me think more about the death penalty than I had before I feel for the victims and their families. But also for Jack's family who has also been left to deal with this. Okay, fan club members, as I conclude the Sepah sewed my one question to you is how will you sleep tonight? Thank you for listening. If you enjoy the Sepah sewed police be sure to leave us a positive review on apple podcasts or your podcast player of choice. It really does. Help us out. You can find us on most social media platforms. Twitter at TC FC pod. Facebook dot com slash TSE, podcast, Instagram, TC, FC underscore podcast. And of course, our website is true. Crime fan club dot com. If you have an episode request cintas an Email TCJC pod achy Mel dot com. Music for the show and audio engineering was provided by Nico at we talk of dreams. You can follow him on Twitter at we talk of dreams or check out his website. We talk of dreams dot com. Content warning at the top of the show was provided by Tyler Alan host of the minds of madness podcast.

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PodQuiz 788

PodQuiz

13:50 min | 5 months ago

PodQuiz 788

"Please don't welcome to six hundred and eighty eight a few before we start. I think's to Alex who came up with for an to this week. And then thanks to pay out owners at Mickey and Round One. We start this week with a guitar. Solos music ground. You're about to hear Five Guitar. Solos from popular songs and each case like to tell me the artist and the title of the Song Western one. What's to to three Western question five Round to run to is on the Knights. Templar question six the knights templar were a military order of which church question seven the author was formed to protect pilgrims visiting which holy city question age in which it was the order found it less nineteen thirteen nineteen fifteen nineteen question nine which two thousand and three novel. Pike Dan Brown features. The Knights templar question. Ten by what means was shocked. Me The last Grand Master of the Knights executed round three rent three quickfire round on TV Cup. Kyoto's feature of the following five questions. I will give the full name of a TV cop and I'd like you to tell me. Just the surname of that partner question. Eleven Christine Cagney question. Twelve David Starsky question. Thirteen sunny crooked question fourteen. Jack Regan question. Fifteen Janet Scott Round four and the fun. This week is food and drink question. Sixty name. Either of the two main ingredients in the desert meringue question. Seventeen the name of which pastor means little worms. Is it fair to Cini? Spaghetti of maturity question eighteen lea and Perrins a best known as the makers of which continent question Nineteen Seagram's beefeater and Gordon's old brands of which Alcoholic Spirit Question Twenty made in the USA but the mcilhenny company which hot sauce is named after a Mexican state. I should be back in three minutes. Dances after song called nights out by misery. Slim's saw I turn Now the Yams Blunt was cracking block by a CDC. The to was man. I feel like human bunch. Twenty breaks down man a fee lag. Womon three was get back by the Beatles. You want nothing's GonNa stop us now by starship number five fours. Moonlight shadow by Mike Oldfield featuring Maggie Reilly round to run to is on the Knights templar. And the answer to number six. The author was cut of the Catholic Church seven. They were formed to protect Insisting Jerusalem aides the Knights templar founded in eleven nineteen benign that Dan Brown novel also Vinci. Code and shock to me was executed by turning round. Three three was the quickfire rounds on TV Cup. Jerus- only need the surname episode. Will tell you the full name and shows that the appeared number. Eleven Christine. Cagney was Mary. Beth Lacey Lacey. Obviously number twelve David Starsky. Partner was Kenneth Hutch stuff skin. Hunch number thirteen Sunday crooked partner was Rico. Tubbs that was my only before teamed partner of Regan Cho- CH- counter. That was the sweeny and fifteen minutes. Scott's partner was Rachel Bailey from Scott and Bailey Round Four. The Fun rant was food and drink and the answer to them sixteen hours looking for ingredients in. Moran and you got the point for egg whites sugar. Seventeen the pastor that means little worms is firm eighteen. Lea and Perrins makes Worcestershire sauce. Nineteen secrets beefeater and Goldens are old. Gin and number twenty Tabasco is the hot sauce. That's named after a Mexican state. That's it for pod quiz seven. Tate's I'd like to send best wishes to allison. That's very difficult. Time Sun Atom says. She's amazing shelter to Robert Ronin. Can't Alex Shutter to the Shonky from New Zealand? A mother State Charter to Sheriff David. Happy Mother St Joe from Narrative and baby bit tricks and happy. Belated eightieth birthday to thirty from the painted plum. Plus pulled quiz plays by now.

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Natalya - Notsam Wrestling 264

Notsam Wrestling

1:05:15 hr | 1 year ago

Natalya - Notsam Wrestling 264

"This week I'm not saying wrestling. More theories about where smackdown should be going full gear. Was this weekend and my guest is not Talia. This is not sam wrestling it is introducing your host from New York here is Sam rulers. My God I was just checking instagram. Welcome to the show. Welcome to Monday. What are we to start your weeks? Not Sam wrestling I was just. I've been scrolling through instagram. I was doing so pretty much all weekend. That's how I spend my weekend's scrolling through instagram and I mean if you follow chocolate on instagram you know the company that makes all those amazing. WWe jackets if you don't I don't I don't know why you don't because the product that they just unveil is unbelievable every single time but over the weekend. They posted a photo of a jacket that they thought about two jackets. Did they thought about producing. Then I guess have decided not too and they were both based on the No mercy nintendo sixty four game will one jacket was like an all overprint jacket and and the front and the back were completely covered in Nintendo sixty four cartridges and it was you know W. W. UH F- warzone or attitude or whatever that game was think war zone it was wrestlemainia two thousand. It was no mercy for me. The end sixty four classics Wrestlemainia two thousand and no mercy. No doubt about it but it was all those I like just on repeat throughout the entire Jack can an entire jacket covered with images of amazing and sixty four cartridges and anybody that grew up like if you were born I would say probably ninety five or I mean if you were born in the ninety s or before I would say now late nineties obviously you remember the thrill of having those video games on a cartridge. They went from cartridge two disc to digital download. Obviously and now like when it comes time to get a to k twenty I just get that code in the email and here we go but there was a time when you had to wait and get that cartridge that end sixty sixty four cartridge and so the one jacket that was all the N.. Sixty four games and then there was another jacket that was just no mercy and it was the rock doc edge and maybe mankind whoever else it was but it was basically a blown up jacket size version of the cover art of no mercy received Nintendo sixty four and I was just looking at that thing like I would need it immediately. I'm already sitting there on this jock line page. I'm obsessed you guys. Know Him says especially usually the people on Patriot who watch me do like the state of wrestling live videos and whatnot. You see me wearing these chocolate jackets all the time. I have a ton of them. But you know they did did They weren't complex Kahn. which is giant sneaker street wear culture convention They do they do it like once a year on the on the West Coast is there but they do like. I don't know probably I think three or maybe four of them a year at this point in various different cities but the big one went down a week or two ago and they went with wrestling for sale on instagram which is like the best instagram account. The best dude forgetting your retro wrestling t shirts but he e and chalk line got together to do this booth and I so wish that I was on the West Coast for complex con. They had Kevin Nash and Scott Hall signing and the exclusives uses that they had for complex on my God. I'm trying to get my hands on some of these jackets. It was an outsider's jacket with the blood driven. It a razor Ramon jacket with yellow and black like the Razor Ramon classic all over t shirt. I mean I'm checking all the time trying to get my hands on some of this exclusive exclusive complex con swag and I will I represent trunk line to the fullest. So I will but it's just amazing. They're the same company that made the not Sam Jumpsuit. I don't know if you've got saw that on twitter her. But I have a A. Not Sam warmup suit now I think I'm going to get another one made for a hotdog since he's my young boy. have hot dog running around a not Sam. Warm up suit everywhere that goes like. It's the new Japan Dojo. I think that that would be really good. I know that the jumpsuit is good. There are some people making fun of me on Instagram Fort. Because no no matter what I post some people are GonNa make fun of me on Instagram. But when I went to ringside fest last weekend and I interviewed Sasha Banks. She was like I saw that Not Sam Jumpsuit. Why aren't you wearing? It knows what Sasha banks because you said something I should have by the way speaking of Sasha banks anybody that hasn't seen it. I tweeted out over over the weekend. I think it was over the weekend. If not the end of last week I interviewed Sasha banks at Ringside fast and Sasha the whole time talked about How good the things were with her? and Mr McMahon How she got a plane and how she got a jet and how she got a bus and all this stuff and then she started talking about how you know? There's too many fans in wrestling and she used to be a fan but not anymore. Because you realize people don't get ahead and my favorite quote ever. She goes bring on the cheerleaders bring on the models bring on the football players. She said Brock listeners. Her role model. It was the most amazing interview. And I'm just sitting there going like man if Sasha banks did what she did with me on. TV every week she would be one of the most talked about people people in pro wrestling right now. I mean it was just great. It was perfect. I really really loved it. So check out the video John Ringside collectibles youtube page. And while you're checking out you the two pages you can go to YouTube dot com slash not Sam and make sure you click on the podcast or any of the new newer wrestling videos. Because you'll see in the in the description I was GONNA say subscription. There's a link to the brand new youtube page. It's brand spanking new only like a week two weeks old and I might nights very slow build but within a month or two there will be no wrestling videos at YouTube dot com slash. Not Sam they will all be the available on my second new page. You can get the link on my instagram account. You can go all over the place but definitely subscribe as soon as you get the chance because you don't want to miss any neither great content that we put out each and every week here at not sam wrestling So speaking of great content I always want got to make sure that you guys get the greatest content that you can possibly get out of this show and sometimes that means making sure that everybody has access to it this this week on the podcast and Italia is our guest. You'll hear Jim Norton on this interview because originally this interview aired on Sirius. Xm On the Jim Norton Sam Robert Show. So you've already heard the interview still no big whoop 'cause now you get to download it and you get to have the audio of the interview in your pocket as long as you shall live live but if you haven't heard it even better because now I'm going to share it with you. We had an Italian on fresh off her match in. Saudi Arabia would lazy the Evans to talk about the process. Talk about how he came to be how early she found out what it meant to her. we talk talk about the superstars getting stuck in Saudi Arabia. And this is what I was talking about. On Thursdays show. She doesn't even occur to her to refer to what's going on in Saudi Arabia as anything but mechanical issues. Now sure. Maybe she's doing that out of some kind of self-preservation or she was instructed. Or whatever any conspiracy theory says that's possible too but point is I have not heard firsthand from anybody. Did any of these conspiracy. Theories are actually true. I'll keep looking. I will keep looking but I haven't heard from anybody however what I did here was was an Italian story and to me man. I'll tell you and you might refer to me as a shell and I don't care if you do because I'm the original show a lot of people these days get referred for doing shells whether it's wwe shells nwea shells or impact shells a. w. shells lots of people get referred to his shells. Guess what I'm the original show. The show s last professional broadcaster. SCOOPS HACK journalist. Sam Roberts okay. That's who you're dealing with here so you can call me whatever you want. I'm a man of many names but as I was watching and I think it was the women's match they did a lot to me but this last show a super showdown or would I don't know the last Saudi Arabia show. I was so enthused by the fans in the audience the way the fans react and for the most part two all these matches the fact that they were clearly real. WWe Fans in that audience. Crown Jewel is of course the name of the show the fact that they were real. You've already think I was researching that it as I was talking but I really wasn't it just popped into my head the fact that you could tell they were real wrestling fans it really made me realize that if you put the politics aside momentarily at least East and realized that there is a real net positive coming out of all these shows I mean there are a few net positives coming out of all these shows but one of them is that the people of Saudi Saudi Arabia who are non political. They're just human beings that live there that are from there that that's their their homeland. They're wrestling fans and they get to see wrestling and they get to go to a wwe show and they get the Chiro and boo and be a part of the whole process. And I love the idea that wrestling thing and wwe becomes kind of common thread. That brings us together the WWE cheesy but it's true. WWe creates a bond with people that you have nothing else on earth in common with. That's why it's wild to me that that for some people wrestling has gone the way of politics whereas a it actually divides people that the wrestling community on on the Internet. A lot of times are fighting with each other and are saying this is better than that and we're not sort of all coming together. Some of US are a lot of us in the not Sam discord room at Patriot dot com slash. Not Sam wrestling a lot of us in a discord rumor coming together and just appreciating this stuff. But there's a lot of like gues- battling over who you're a fan of in pro wrestling when the reality is it's just amazing that sports entertainment has created a common thread and brought people together. Like maybe nothing else has. It really is remarkable. And that's kind of what was in my head and one of the themes that it was running through it as I talked to Natalia alongside Jim Norton here she is this week on Nazi wrestling the not Sam Wrestling interview. Tell you need heart is coming in night heart. Oh sorry yeah come on daughter of Jim the anvil night heart tire in the Mistake like 'cause I got a couple of names risk but natty is just you know what Nancy a- or some simple just call you natalie and then go out of nowhere by choice right right well welcome. Welcome to Jim Norton Norton Sam Roberts. How are you? I'm good that you guys are great. I've been listening to you all mornings you stuck on a plane leaving Saudi Arabia. Yeah well that's a good question kind of guy I'd write in. Well I was. I wasn't stuck on a plane for too long because we were told to get off the plane so the flight attendants basically we boarded the plane after our show flight attendants said Hey. There is a mechanical issue. So when I'm I'm told there's mechanical issue on an airplane I get off and stay off until until it's fixed so yeah I mean it was it was it. Was this wild wild wild a couple of days when you're coming off the high rate because you go to Saudi Arabia. You have you find out. I guess I'm assuming assuming that you found out the day before because they only announced that there was going to be a women's match on this Show in Saudi Arabia. Press Conference at the press conference twenty four hours hours before the show they go by the way are for the first women's wrestling ever in Saudi Arabia. It's happening tomorrow. And it's an Italian versus lazy. Did they tell you guys. I mean we've been hearing rumblings since because I went to Saudi Arabia. I went to Jeddah in May with Lace Earth Alexi and they were saying you know we we want out to eventually have you girls Russell so we were hoping we were hoping for working towards it and then we were. There was rumblings of again for this trip but nothing was confirmed. It was just sort of of girls so when you went to Jeddah it was one of those things where it's like loading. Confirm all we got is. Maybe it's not even a hard. Maybe we also under Lexi and I also understood. Hey just US going here to Saudi Arabia as women just US going here as ambassadors of. WWe This is such a good step. If we get the match work would be so grateful if it doesn't happen. We're going to keep fighting for it did you. When you were there like do you? How do you feel when you leave the hotel area? Did you do anything when you were there doing I was. I went to children's hospital. which by the way was so so powerful it was one of the most one of the most incredible visits? I've ever had that that trip to Saudi Arabia this trip to Riyadh bad like change my life. It was the only thing I can really compare it to is when I went to Rwanda in two thousand thirteen. I visited two refugee camps in Rwanda and the reason. Why compare it to Rwanda is because it was Rwanda for me that that trip with the United Nations which is life changing this trip to Saudi Arabia? It was just life changing. I went to this children's hospital. We were busy. We had a lot of appearances. Lacy myself this children's hospital these kids. They were inspiring like like just blew my mind how strong they were. How even though they didn't speak our language it was that powerful human connection that we had we seeing Roman home and hug the kids and the new you guys were forced? Some of them did some of them didn't but the fact that we were going in there and paying attention to them and giving it we brought them championships then we signed autographs for them and took pictures and everybody just got excited and they've done they when we go and visit kids at hospitals. It's proven that we improve their vitals just because everybody needs a little hope already needs to have their spirits boosted so the trip the trip to Saudi Arabia was one of the most special powerful seeing seeing my life. So when you get there are you once it's announced right. Get there and you just get word right. That they're like okay. WE'RE GONNA announce it it's going to happen. Of course course Andrew and true natty fashion. I found out on twitter. Basically confirmed so like. WW is saying to us. Listen it it's looking good. It's looking good. It's looking good but we can't say one hundred percent. We just have to wait so I think they also didn't want to get our hopes up and then have them dashed. Yeah I get that so so. It's better to be optimistic but cautiously optimistic. So once it was announced I was like Oh wait I saw it on twitter and we were trending worldwide and I was like now I know it's like confirm wiscon- so when it's announced is they're still part of you and your brain that goes but it's not happening for another twenty four hours so this until I hear my music and he situation with. WWe Me until you walk through that curtain. No matter where you are in the world. It's things can change because oh cancel a match in New York. Doesn't they'll cancel match. I mean things happen. It's it's as we say we've said it forever. I've grown up in the business card is subject to change so we were lacey and I were so excited though we were we were like. This is going to be great but we also didn't know exactly what to expect because you have to remember in Saudi Arabia. This is the first time they've ever seen a women's wrestling match right so we've issue them on. TV there the two or no. This is the first time you live in the country me. Yeah live in the country and they don't think they air women's wrestling on TV there either. So if you want to see it you have to kind of go to YouTube. Watch it on some in some other way But their programming. I don't believe so no so when you find out. Is it kind of like okay. Here's how we're going to do this because is obviously and we were talking about you know early this morning you guys dressed completely differently you got bodysuit from head to toe and the t shirt over the bodysuit. I was also wondering as I'm watching. Touching it looked like the entrances and the theatrics where a little bit kind of subdued a little bit more respectful. and was that part of it. I feel like especially in steph anemic managers at this earlier in the week because we're every single place we we're in over one hundred and eighty countries around the world in in twenty eight languages everywhere we go. We have to always be respectful of the culture that we're in it right. When we went to China things are things were a little different China because of if you know their culture so we just felt like and I and I actually I I took it upon myself even more so than the company telling me I? They went above and beyond along with to be overly respectful. Because I want to make such a great impression in Saudi Arabia. Because I want more women to be able to do this because we open doors there that were never opened. Before so my entrance Lacey's entrance. I feel like yeah. That was actually a really good observation. We were we. Were trying to be as respectful as as we possibly could be especially because we knew that you only have one chance to make a I. What did you do differently wall for me because I play the role of a good girl on TV? A baby face. I didn't have to do too much. That was different but lacy you know her her role on American programming. She's a little bit more. Sassy her characters this Asi Southern Bell. So she's kind of she thinks she's better than every she comes out she's arrogant. She's got a snobby attitude. She's Kinda Scowling. When she walks down the ramp you know she has? She has a little bit more of a provocative entrance when she's in America but because we were here again trying to make a great impression and also still trying to respect their culture because this is their culture. Yeah you know knowing if we can make such a good impression think about how many girls are going to be able to come back here and to be able to continue to influence and open doors. That had never been ope. Did it blow your mind. Because I'm assuming that one of the fears is you're GONNA hit that entrance stage and people are GonNa Boo. They're like we don't want this. You know this isn't when you're not only getting cheered but like like they literally got to. This is awesome. Yeah hand while a mattress going on which is a very The you know in my mind American wrestling. I thought that was nuts about the show. was that the audience sounded like any American European whatever wrestling audience because wrestling speaks a universal language. It was just wrestling fan. You think about it again. I you know we're in over one hundred and eighty countries twenty eight languages people. I can't tell you how many people in the lobby were telling me. Your uncle. Bret the Hitman Hart. He's my favorite wrestler of all time. And I'm thinking like breads from twenty years ago you know and and re wrestling really does speak a universal language. WWE is like you. You know we've we've been going to the Middle East for. We've gone forty times since the nineties. You think about that iconic picture of the rock which he tweeted and put on Instagram of the Rock and Owen Owen on a camel that was from the Middle East. And so you think about like eating my family like my dad my uncles you know they. They've been like they were here. You know no building this partnership for decades so to be a woman going over there and like the crowd I in any in any venue around the world whether it's pig Alabama or Madison Square Garden. My biggest fear and Saudi Arabia was my biggest fear to fans either. Didn't know how to respond to US or don't care I always in. That's twenty. I talk to aren't Anderson about that and he's like you always have to assume you know that no one knows who you are. That's why when you walk through that curtain you you'd have to tell the story every single night of who you are and I always remembered aren't saying that to me that every night you have to tell the story of you are because I'm always afraid that no one's GonNa know who have that fear to and it's always confirmed you know where no one's GonNa care about. Hi Jim Norton. Oh Hi Nice what. It was China. China China China was again a little bit more reserved Because we it's it's not that they hadn't seen women perform over there. I think Eve Torres actually if Tours Lisa Fox if I if I'm remembering correctly I think they were the first woman to perform over there but again. It's not the norm you know. It wasn't the norm for women perform so because their culture and a lot of ways it is more reserved we go there and we. We respect their culture and you know people were talking about that the costumes in Saudi Arabia. And how oh the girls were covered up. That's to me part of going there is. We're not going to just jump in and just wear wear you know like Lacey's wearing in short skirt and stuff like it takes time to to introduce this baby steps in every single culture. Eventually you'll be able to do what you do. Well you can't just jump in and disrupt everything and go okay. Okay because then they won't have you back when you just have to be respectful. And that's what life is all about respect. Even when a new person comes into our locker room you know it's takes time to build a report chorus with them and relationships that's what life is all about. Who is the woman that you in Lacey hugged after the match because after the match like there was like you know the whole thing and I think a you know a lot of that was had to be you guys going like like not only? Do we do this but it worked and people seem to have enjoyed it. People are sharing their happy. Ed How was so wonderful like it was like a dream come true like just literally like the most perfect audience the most perfect atmosphere like everybody embraced us. I said I said Alesi before we went out and I said like tonight isn't about you or me it's not about. WWe This is bigger than us is about transcending you you know doing something for for women and girls around the world that little girls or women or anybody that has a dream of what feels like. It's impossible it can be done on especially there right. Yeah and and like the fact. That lacey is a mom I said. Think about your daughter. I said you're not playing the role of a villain. You know tonight. We're going in there. And we are competing athletes we're competing and this is about respect respect for each other respect for this culture respect for wwe respect for women. So who was that women that you guys. I hope that a lot because I saw a twitter. Everybody who's afterwards Lacey Lacey. Prior to going out I said when matches just over I said let's walk up to the ramp. Let's walk up the ramp together because we both won. We both are winning tonight and I want us to both have that moment of walking up together together. We couldn't even get up the ramp because we saw these women that were all like in the crowd and we just wanted to give them a hug and then they would like all holding their arms out all these women and children and little girls and they were like wanting to hug us so all of a sudden we just forgot that we had to walk. Backstage started hugging. She was just a random woman. That's amazing yeah. We didn't know who she was. But then all of a sudden I found myself kissing a lady on the cheek. I was like you just saw. We're sharing this moment kissing everyone so run the match. I won the match. But you know it's funny because like I didn't even it. It was one of those again. We were talking about this earlier and I was saying. This was that match that I have with Lacey Evans is by far the most important moment of my career. Because it was something that was it was for real change uh-huh and it was. It was like it was something that was so incredibly special and not only were. We embraced by the Saudi Arabian people. That were there in attendance but but by people around the world and it was just such a like symbolic moment for for wwe and for the company for for the girls but also for for people around the world that maybe never watched wrestling. So when you're on a when you go on when you're on a high that high and then like right after that you're like all right we're getting on a plane and that's when it's like what do you mean. We can't go home right now. Trust me my people often ask me. Why like you try? I travel so much. We're on saying about Phoenix. I was on in one week. I was on twenty one flights nights. There's something I hate about traveling. In general I know I do it for a living but I cannot stand getting on a plane and if I could drive eight hours instead of getting on one hour flight I would do it any day of the week. Yes but the second that somebody says. There is a mechanical issue on this plane. And there's one hundred seventy five people on the plane if a flight attendant says there's mechanical issue on the plane. I'm I'm not going to be on the plane. I'm getting off the plane and even even if that means having the Best S. damned Saudi Arabia and Hamas that one could have. I'm getting off the plane and having some. How long did you have to wait? We we were on the plane and then they were working on trying antics whatever was going on and then we all deplaned and then we went to a beautiful five star hotel and had the best. Damn Saudi Arabian Brad. And we just kind of waited at the hotel and we you know my husband and I went and worked out we grab food and then we went back a few hours. We have you hours and then we went back and got the flight so I just I I know it sounds Kinda cold. Maybe I'm just grizzled as they say in that land wrestling vet land But as a veteran I just have been on. So how many flights where things have been delayed and you've been stuck and you'd rather be stuck in a five star hotel on a plane that's not functioning properly. I JUST WANNA get. I WanNa either get a good workout in. Make sure that the plane is fixed. It was a charter flight. That was commercial okay. It was a charter flight but For me I just wanted you know especially coming off that high I yes I wanted to get home but we all need to make sure we get home safely. Yeah so to me like again I hate. I hate delays. They ruined so many things but at the same time we have to look at the big. Yeah I mean better. I've never been a high flier. The beauty is that You don't have to go far for ron tonight tonight. Because you guys are in Long Island for rod tonight. Do you have any idea what you're doing on. This is a special venue. This is the same Nassau class on how we've had the evolution evolution right. I ever all women's pay per view so it is. It is very cool. I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing but I know I'm doing something I'm sure I just. It's like we have such a great group of women on right now from Charlotte flair to Becky to the Kabuki warriors. I Love Love Love Wrestling Oscar in Moscow. I think is. I'm just going to go on the record saying this. I think she is. Maybe the best women's wrestler one of the best women's wrestlers in the world. See I always wondered like the three one two three. I love her. I think she had amazing. But that's because when she wrestles she appears to actually hit people very very hard last week when we wrestled in that tag match or was it was Gosh it was the week before was lacy and I against the book warriors so two weeks weeks ago. We wrestled in a tag match and Oscar was hitting me real hard for you like that and I loved it and I was like I got up and slapped her across the base has like this is how I play to. Your husband been wrestle by husband. Used to wrestle. Yeah but now. He's just bossy backstage. He's a producer for wwe. Now Okay really really really incredible as a producer though. He's very talented. Yeah everybody wants to work with them and of course so yeah I mean. It's just wrestling all the time for you. Always always I love that we have so much wrestling on TV. Though we have Mondays Tuesdays with total we have raw. We have Wednesdays with you know with two shows. Fridays with smackdown pay per views. And like I mean even Annex T U K. I watched their last pay per view It was so good. Yeah I was just like this. There's just so much good wrestling on right now. It's like such an exciting reading time to be in the industry. Yeah there's a lot of spots to work. Yeah which wasn't it's not always the case and it's great like everybody's just stepping up so many girls at annex t that I wanNa Work Lake AAC Shayna and RIA and Dion A- and Gosh I'm just trying to think Who Else I WANNA work There's there's so many girls renee young commentary get kicked again. I WANNA work. They WanNa commentators got kicked interface according to how to handle it though she was choose strong. But there's just there's such a good group of girls right now that are you know it makes it. It's an exciting time to be in the industry. We look where is going to be in Long Island at the Nassau Coliseum. So anybody that's local. Get out there. If you can get tickets get tickets get out there and see it live if you're not local. Watch it on USA Starting at eight PM. Welcome back in Italia. And congratulations on everything. Oh thank you so much and are you gonNa be there tonight. I'm sure I'll come down. Yeah the great sure Okay I. It's time for us to be helpful. 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He came up the studio Because he was in town ringside festivals around the same time and he had the new New Talia and Jim the Anvil Night Heart Action Shen figures with him and got their show. Natalia for the first time in person she'd seen I think she had seen her before which the likeness is like unreal real. I got to see it in person. The next An Italian elite figure. That's coming out to likeness is crazy. I mean forget about the removal cat ears. Forget forget about all the detail on the outfit. The face scan is out of this world. Looks exactly like her. But what I'm really excited about. Is the Jim the Anvil night. Art figure that is coming out that he had premiered ringside fast and showed an Italian person for the first time and she was talking about. How much The envio would have loved to have it. She said that the anvil used to get Boxes of figures when they would come out like Jimmy Come out and he'd get boxes of him and he would open an all of them up and just put them all around the house he put them in the cat dish. He'd put them on the shelf he put him next to the TV and his wife would be yelling at him going like we could give these away to people. What are you doing? We give them as gifts he'd go. nope neither all staying in the night hard household which I love and the figures cool because it's like a ninety seven heart art foundation era. Jimmy Hart. They've made a couple Mattel. has they made one from the early eighties. The black and blue heart foundation figure and they I made I think they made any one of those. They made a classic Heart Foundation. You Know Summer Slam Ninety Era Heart Foundation Jin the night hard hard figure but now they're doing a heart foundation figure any comes with the Anvil Heart Foundation leather jacket which natty said he thought was the coolest thing ever which is awesome. Because if you collect Mattel's elite line then over the years I mean and this is you have to have been collecting for over five years now to have gotten all these when they came out unless you're going on Ebay and grabbed him now which is a possibility to they will now have in their heart. Foundation jackets gets Brett and Ville bulldog and Perelman all from the era all accurate. All in their heart foundation jackets invests as is the case with film bulldog. So you know. Obviously we're missing one very important member but four gratify ain't bad right so I'm pretty excited about that. And I think I have some video footage of that as well so I'll post that up on the social media platforms okay Let's go chronologically in what's been going down since we last left you on Thursdays Thursday. Not Sam Thursday podcast We'll start what smackdown so a couple of things number one. I don't see how anybody could trust. Shortage okay not only. Is He wearing that ridiculous ridiculous outfit trying to convince everybody. I don't know I mean. Do People think that Olympic wrestlers wear basketball uniforms when they wrestle. He's never been a basketball player. I'm sure he's terrible a basketball but he's trying to convince everybody that he's so athletic. He could play basketball now. He put that aside to find out this guy. He's a suck up and a snitch. What Roman reigns and I tweeted about it? Because I had to Roman reigns walks in the building building and immediately immediately Chad gable shortage e has to make his nose Brown and and let the big dog. No Oh he's you heard what Barron Gordon was saying about you. It's embarrassing for an adult to be seeking approval on that level. It's Zimba harassing. I had a lot of thoughts about what we were talking about. So I got some feedback. Some good some bad about the proposition position that I gave you guys on the last show that I've right now. I believe that smack down in my very very biased opinion. I personally like the pacing of smackdown better than any other wrestling show on TV. Right now. I liked the pacing of smackdown. I I feel like smackdown gets closer to being that show where every segment is telling a story. It does not there yet but I think that smackdown is a little more story rich than any of the other wrestling shows. The other shows are still story right but I think that smack down and it's building two stories. I feel like our building on smackdown. I think wrestling needs that soap opera element maybe doesn't need to feel like a soap opera parody of soap opera. Bre maybe he needs to just feel like I'm watching dramatic television but I feel like wrestling needs that. Okay and part of that is the is the story going on between Daniel Bryan and Sam Zane. Now we look at what happened on smackdown and of course the fiend doesn't come to the ring. Apparently he did after after the show the fiend has been doing both on raw and smackdown a lot of stuff after the show goes off the air. So if w is coming to your town you loved the fiend. I think on Rau- on Monday in Long Island. The fiend did a cage match with Seth rollins and I can't remember who he beat up on smackdown news either says sorrow or the. OC somebody. I don't know but that's to say no. That's to say if you see these. If you see www in these shows in your town you want to see the scene. You'll get to see more of the fiend. But they had the fiend backstage in Daniel. Bryan's Locker Room area interrupting interrupting the conversation between Bryan and Sammy Zane and turning the whole locker room. Read now I think that this is very interesting. I love Daniel Bryan in in the fiend. Getting together for a couple of reasons. Okay so first of all. I actually think it's a cool aesthetic that the locker room turn red I like it better than the ringside area turns. Red I don't love when the ringside area turns red during his matches. But it's kind of growing on me. I hate to say it. I never thought it would but it is kind of growing on me because it makes me I feel like when you see his mask without the red light on. It actually makes it more special all that said. I think that that the Brian Brian fiend matchup is interesting for a couple of reasons number one because Daniel Bryan and Bray Wyatt had one bray why it's best matches at Royal Rumble Bob. Several years ago at this point it was a match that put Bray Wyatt on the map. Unfortunately Wrestlemainia took him off that map that we were talking about but in the the moment it put Bray Wyatt on the map in my opinion and it opened up a lot of people's eyes to this person really could be somebody like the this. This is big. This is big again it goes away unfortunately in the whole but but whatever we're back to it now we're back to where we should be with Bray Wyatt so I think that Remembering that story I that match right. I think that remembering that story of when for a minute Daniel Title Bryan was in the Wyatt family. Only to turn on them you know. Let's remember. That is speaking of Mattel. Action Figures Mattel figure were Daniel Bryan comes with the gas station attendant outfit fit so it looks like he's part of the white family. Let's not act like that didn't happen. Embrace it's passed the scene while it's the next evolution of Bray. Wyatt is not a new character. It's it's not somebody that That we are now disavowing. The Bray Wyatt ever existed the fiend Bray Wyatt is simply the next step in the storytelling in in the Canon of Bray y everything that Bray White and the white family did is still cannon everything that Braun strowman did in the Wyatt family is still cannon it's all still part of the storyline in my opinion. So I think there's all that I think even more than any of this. What really makes us very very interesting is is that Daniel Bryan is in this period? Where he's been a longtime being arguably and I don't even know if you could argue it the top heel on smackdown meaning? I don't even know if you could argue against it. He's been a longtime being the top heel on smackdown being very very good very very good at being a he'll now he seems to be a baby face but he hasn't quite explained why he hasn't quite explained what makes him a good guy so the transition in my opinion isn't complete yet as well he's cozying up with Sam Zane he's cozying up with Nakimora. Cameras Nakimora confirmed bad. Guys Daniel O'Brien while he hasn't sided with them hasn't turned them away either so it leaves us thinking. What is Daniel Bryan thinking here? What his motivations now the fiend on the other hand? It's clear that maybe when he first showed up on the scene maybe in his match within Baylor he was a bad guy but if you listen to the reaction he got when he won the world title. If you listen to what people are saying about the fiend. If you listen to all this stuff to fiend is a hero of the modern era the fiend. Is Somebody somebody that people are going to buildings and cheering. The fiend is somebody that people do not want to lose. They want to see him win. A true bad guy. The audience wants wants to see him. Lose the fiend. Nobody wants to the fiend lose. People wanted to see seth rollins get beaten up by the scene. You know. I think that that puts the the old mythos of baby face versus. He'll it turns it on. Its head so I don't think we can sit here. And define I think this storyline is going to determine for us. Who's who you could easily sit there? And tell me that when the fiend and Daniel. The O'Brien finally meet be at survivor series or any other pay per view that it will be the fiend as the good guy in Daniel Bryan is the bad guy. You have me believe the Daniel Bryan will side with Shinsegei Nakimora Sammy Zane and still take on the fiend. As a good guy you could also have me believe the Daniel Bryan will not side which Shinsegei or Sammy's Amy's aim and we'll take on the fiend as a good guy the fiend being the bad guy who would turn into the good guy. Both scenarios work the reason I like the fiend as the opponent for Daniel. Daniel Bryan is because it doesn't tip the hat one way or another to any which way Daniel Bryan is going and I think that there's only a few opponents that you could do that with breath you know most opponents when you kind of figure out you know where the story line is going. You can kind of figure out where D- individuals individuals going where the performance going in this. We can figure out. Where the storylines going storylines clearly going with the fiend versus Daniel Bryan we? That doesn't really tip tat to where Daniel Bryan is going as a character and I love that. Now I've got my own ideas of where Daniel Bryan should go as a character. I was trying to explain to hotdog my young boy about my theory behind Braun strowman. I'm sorry behind Barron. Corbin Roman reigns and covy Kingston as a faction and he came to me the same way. Something you came to me and comments on Youtube in my email box saying why would why would bearing core been be the leader. Why would Roman reigns be bearing Corbin's henchman and I thought I made that clear? But if Roman reigns were to turn heel the only way he would really be a true. He'll and somebody that people wanted to lose is as if he wasn't if he if he were leader as a heel if you were a bad guy leader of a faction he would come across his bad ass he would come across his not caring and he would come across his incharge he would come across in a way. That is attractive to a lot of fans if Roman reigns turned heel and then just followed the orders as of Baron Corbin he would not come across his attractive to any fans he would be a bad guy wrestler which is what we want out of. Roman when reigns. If he's going to do this right so I still firmly think the Roman reigns should turn and should follow the lead of Baron Corbin I think it should end in a new day. Versus Roman Reigns Darin Corbin match. I think that that should result in Kofi Kingston. Turning on biggie and joining the the the the royal family of Baron Corbin the King Corbin with Roman reigns and Kofi Kingston by his side. You know I worry when I see the new day winning the tag team championship that the idea that Kofi Kingston should be A. He'll might be starting to slip away. Maybe because we'll save your woods isn't going to be around We're not ready to break up the new day. I also see there's rumors floating around that the power positively new day is being copyrighted for a podcast that there are rumors that the new day might be the next WWE podcast ride cast. In which case now we've got bigger investments and can't break up the new date that makes theory very very tough but regardless of all that I don't work in the business side of wwe. I'm just just a fan. Who sits there going like? You know what I WANNA see on my TV covy Kingston. Turn on Biggie. Enjoying Barron Corbin and Roman reigns in a super heel faction. And you go. Who would they face up against? And I will tell you this. I think Daniel Bryan should join Shinsuke Nakamura. And Sammy's eighteen and I think that they should be baby faces and Daniel Bryan should join Shinsegei and Amy Zane and I think they become good guys and what you're left with is a good guy. Faction of Shinsegei Nakimora Daniel Bryan and Sammy Zane versus bearing Corbin Roman reigns and Kofi Kingston. obstensibly sensibly what you're left with is wrestling as the good guys vs. WWe As the bad guys. What you're left with is the attitude sued? The people have anyway. What you're left with is a good guy trio that is work their ass off to get into the position that they're in taking on three guys Who Represent the machine and Kofi Kingston needs to embrace the fact that he is part of the machine and maybe that's why he lost brock listener so quickly was because he wasn't embracing the fact that he was part of the machine? But you've got a a a man versus machine rivalry. Sorry if you do Daniel Bryan Sammy Zane and Nakimora. As good guys vs Roman Reigns Baron Corbin Kofi Kingston. And as bad guys. And you could leave. I mean theoretically you could leave Sammy Zane and the role as manager and have somebody else join them. But I don't see why I mean. Let him be the the the mouthpiece of it but Danial. Brian is super entertaining on the microphone. As well so let's say McCain be. Sammy's Ain't Sammy. I mean look L.. Generic is an amazing good guy. Amazing Sammy Zane was amazingly loved annex t and when he came in and answered John Cena mystery challenge for the United States Wimbledon Championship. He got a huge reaction all those years ago. Sammy's Ain is a good good guy. He's a good guy too but I think Sammy's ain't Daniel Bryan. Nakimora could be a great top good guy faction and I think they could be amazing. Amazing to go to war with Roman Reigns Baron Corbin and Kofi Kingston. I think it'd be great. I think it'd be really really something special. Let's move on of course Awa put on a pair of you over the weekend full gear Which I guess a lot of people were watching? Look I thought it was a really good show I've got my own Hardcore biases and it makes it so that you know I see not like most people can watch the Awa review and just enjoy it. You know what I mean. And that's how we're really supposed to be watching it but my own biases may get so that. I I see everything that happens on. These babe reviews where all AWA fans love it but if wwe ever did it it would be like hell has frozen over so there were plenty of instances of that on the pay per view that I saw on Saturday. But I don't want to get into it. I don't WanNa be a hater you know. That's not not why we're here. That's not the point of this whole thing I thought it was a really good pay per view though I thought it was I it move very well. It told a lot of stories I thought what a lot of people thought the J. F. thing seemed like he came out of nowhere. Now Look I don't watch the TV as regularly as I should. I don't watch every hour. VW TV. So I'm not the best judge in the world for any of it But I think a anything that puts Joey Gel on pay per view. I'm going to have a warm place in my heart for any place that gives Joey Nella a chance to shine the way they're doing and I wish he'd won that match. But you know I love George Hill have on the podcast. was at the beginning of this year was months ago anyway Thought it was great. I think that the big great to see George now on pay prevue anybody that put soul train Jones in the position to shine that he's being put in by the way you think I'll ever get that sort of tip of the hat for for making lonely virgil a thing and really starting this thing. I duNno I duNno and of course the most controversial thing that happened at full gear was the lights out match. That went full on death. Match Kenny Omega versus Jon Moxley formerly known as Dean. Ambrose I mean look. I grew up watching matches. I was a tape trader. My death match collection was big. That was genre read that I really liked. I never loved the all Japan stuff. I didn't like the super wrestling. He Japanese stuff. I always like garbage wrestling. I always like death matched up I. I liked big. Japan Piranha death match. I like the match I think it was FM. W when Mike Awesome was in this gladiator was in the six man. Death match tag in the middle of a pool. I thought it was great. Exploding ring matches exploding cage matches. I got the best too high a Bouza I got. Oh Oh needed a sign. My copy of the best of the explosion death matches volume to you. Know I w King of the death match ninety five Kawasaki Dream all of it all of it. It all debt match culture. There's a reason why I had met Trae Mont on the show not too long ago because I I love dead match wrestling and I watched it and of course you go like Oh. These people shouldn't be doing this to themselves terrible. This is awful and you know what I want my son to be adept match wrestler. No no I would not enjoy that if my son was a death match wrestler. What I want my wife to be adept match wrestler? No I'd be super bummed out to see jess I wouldn't even want jazz has to be like Candice Lorraine. PWG taking tech boots to the face. I'd be super bombed out. But then again I wouldn't want to be in the ring with. Shane obeys ler or a Yoshahara. Either I'd be bummed out about that. I don't WanNa see the people. I love getting beat up on television. It's not appealing to me. So I get that but I'm not In love with Kenny Omega Jon Moxley. I'm not in love with Matt Tremont. He's a real guy. I like him. I don't know Kenny Omega. I've heard he's a great great guy. Jack Good Dude. I like those people but they like death match wrestling so I'm going to support them in what they like. Especially because as I happen to like it too hard core debt match wrestling that is I was in EC W kid I loved the Seibu Terry funk barbed wire match you know where they ended up getting caught together in the barb wire to the point where the title has to change and they have to be cut out of the wire saboteurs vice except in the middle of the match edit tape it back on as he was wrestling. I love that stuff. Maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm crazy. But in this a lights out death match they They pulled out all the stops there. Barb wire they had You know glass which is probably wrestling glass. They had chains and they add something that has become a staple of American death match wrestling. Maybe Japanese too. But I've seen it a lot in like you know the East Coast Philadelphia Delaware. Let's call it what it is Delaware death match wrestling scene which is and we talked about it with Matt Tremont Fremont when he was on the show the barbed wire trampoline set up the barbed wire net. That is set up to both Kenny Omega And Jon Moxley we're sent careening into I loved the inclusion of it I liked having the Mac get pulled up Isla Gargano CIAMPA. Let's remember that happened there. I I I I thought it was great. I was surprised that there were a lot of people that were very very critical of it. Party did think I wonder how this is going to play in twenty nineteen. Pardon me did think yeah. I don't know if people are into this stuff anymore. You know we talk about people in their sensitivities and people not wanting certain amounts of violence and people. You know all this stuff and I did think to myself self. Is this GonNa play to the masses in twenty nineteen and and they took a risk man. They took a risk with that match. Because you theoretically have people tuning in to this if your papers successful if aws putting on a successful pay per view you have people tuning in the. I haven't tuned into wrestling awhile. The maybe haven't bought a wrestling pay per view in a while. And when they tune in they're going to see this and it's very very different and they're are either GONNA go. Oh this is great. This is different. OR THEY'RE GONNA go like I don't WanNa Watch this blood and guts stuff. This is crazy you know. I don't think E. C. E. C. W. in nineteen ninety. Seven could not have gotten away with doing on pay per view. What mocks and Omega did ahead on pay per view in two thousand nineteen would never been able to get away with doing that but they were under a microscope. 'cause the word extreme was in their name and you know Awa not so much. I did see like somebody trying to throw a w under the bus. They're like look. I got this picture from the audience and the judges in the championship match. And they're not even writing anything down. It's like okay guy. At some point we got to remember. This is wrestling speaking of wrestling. We've got a big week of wrestling coming up and I only say that because busily always have wrestling or big although Roy's pre-taped I think I know I haven't avoided all the spoilers. I know there is a running on raw this sweet but I won't spoil it for you. I only spoil things after they happen. which isn't really spoiler? It's just a report but yeah I won't Spoil Anything I've gotten one. Ross boiler are we in. It's a good one But I do always kind of look. smackdown was pre-tape as well. Technically smackdown down wasn't live this week. It was in the UK so it was taped in the afternoon and it still did slightly better ratings than last week's smackdown so you know I don't know how much it will affect viewership for raw than his pre taped. But I always feel like I don't know the especially when it's a few days pre taped but of course I'm going to watch. I think that it's really been announced is that they're going. To further the Lana rousseff bobby Lashley storyline. Which I think we could take for granted that was going to happen? I just wish they would just spell this out a little bit. I feel like every week. We get thrown new details about this love triangle and and it doesn't feel like a puzzle is coming together it just feels like more and more of a mess so hopefully at some point we will get pieces that feel like they fit together and we've an actual narrative whether you like it or not as long as you can make sense of ass story. I think we're going in the right direction but right now I don't know what the story is on smackdown. Speaking of stuff coming up survivor series is in now less than two weeks. As of the time of this podcast and we do know there is going to be it sounded to me. He like a raw versus smackdown women's survivor series match. Sasha Banks Dana Brooke Carmella qualified. Three of the five qualified. Ah Fide for the smackdown women's team of course Carmella Dana Brooke beating fire and desire on smackdown. So I don't know who is going to join those three three you have to imagine. The KABUKI warriors will be on Roz team I I don't know when Jack is supposed to be coming back but I think that she would be great addition she would be a great for whatever show she's going to be on. I would love to see her surprise entrant on one of these two teams and just have her dominate everything. Because I'm very much looking forward to deny Jack's returning But I D- I do think it's a step in the right direction in the sense that we're remembering it's not just raw and smackdown versus it's raw versus smackdown vs annex t But okay so this one is raw versus smackdown I. I don't know what what that means for Annex T. Maybe they'll be one that's Roberson exteriors make Denver's is an xt. I don't know but this one doesn't strike me as a triple threat. And you can't do every single match one on one on one or you know team versus team versus team. Not every match can be triple threat rules but you know it's almost like you wonder her if they should add an ex- team members to the raw team in the smackdown team and whoever wins next he credit for that I don't know I don't know it seems it seems like it's complicated gated with three brands. But I'm anxious to see how those stories are told real quick. Let's go to the email. It's not Sam Wrestling g mail dot com or on patriotic. You send a message on Patriot. I will read those questions to So we'll start with patriots on Like we always do like we always do at this time time Let's see Joey. Unpatriotic says subject Meltzer. How can Dave Meltzer? BA quote journalists when he's a character being the elite also he never goes to any wwe events in his at many events and has even as moves named after after him. I mean it would be like you covering eighty w wouldn't it while I mean. Maybe yeah. I'm look no. I would never consider myself herself. A journalist first and foremost I didn't do anything with any kind of journalistic integrity at all except get scoops. But I get lots of scoops but look I mean Dave Meltzer is in an interesting position because he is a figure in this world for thirty the years if not more so the people who are wrestlers now that grew up as fans grew up there. There are big pro wrestlers. Right now the grew up I would imagine the young bucks grew up reading the observer like it was something that fuel them fan so now that they get to be wrestlers you you know. They probably think it's fun to incorporate that stuff with them. Now I guess that yes Dave meltzer probably should technically as journalists. Excuse himself from all that Um because it does cloud him but you know I mean I think the thing about wrestling as with most journalism is whether anybody will admit it or not. They've vago by says you just have to know what it is. Every journalist has a bias. You know I think the people on Fox News you know have biases but they'll still claim to be journalists people on CNN biases and we'll still claim to journalists. So you know I I think. Journalism is tricky like that the more the journalist becomes a household name the more it is difficult to not have a bias one way or the other for whatever it is that we're talking about David Wrightson to not sam wrestling engy. Mail dot com wargames all about strategy. What better strategy could Shayna baseler have then making the final member of her team? Dakota kyw from David McMahon real name no gimmicks to trailer park girls go round the outside Ya a young guy would have to develop a pretty serious attitude and I mean it would be something but the idea is that team. Rea- Ripley turned down to Coda guy because she sucks so that would be the risk that you would have to ensure that Dakota guy definitely doesn't suck if she doesn't suck you might be onto something but you know it's not like NATO anyway would work. I wouldn't be against it but I don't think it's a smash I don't think it's it's a definite thing that would be awesome. Who is on the women's wargames match right now Shayna Baiser Yoshahara Bianca Bel Air? TV look. It's not a bad idea. Because who else are you going to add onto that team. I mean let's go right now to the roster page and let's see if not Dakota kyw who do you add onto that women's wargames match unless it's you know I mean Tony Storm is a good guy. Tony Storm would be a an amazing pick as a surprise wargames participant. But I don't think she's a bad guy thinks she's a good guy you know you haven't really introduced the honor Peru's O or Chelsea on TV. Via so I don't know if it would be one of those two. It's amazing though that that's how deep the roster goes that there's like good women that you haven't even announced on television yet you can say China Ara is a pick you know as I ali is a pick but again I think she's on TV but it probably needs a little bit more of an attitude and presence and Xilai is in the same boat as as Chelsea and Deanna Perusal in the sense that you they need the TV time before people go. WHOA that's who it is so yeah I think the coach is a bad idea by any stretch but I kind of like the idea Sokoto? KYW's story playing out not within the next two weeks. You know I like the idea of Takata Guy Maybe Dakota kyw maybe maybe turning heel at wargames movie accompanying them at war games and turning he or maybe maybe it's something that we have after war games. That's when the turn happens. I'd like to see a bigger eager build and maybe just two weeks but like I said not a bad idea not a bad idea at all. Thanks for joining us again. 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Money in the bank who do I think will win this ppv

The big d zone

15:19 min | 5 months ago

Money in the bank who do I think will win this ppv

"All right this is plants D J. Well put on a full day. The work of big D country Not only am I am Just did an interview with AC audit was a great interview and I got a interview tomorrow fourteen Williams because she's GonNa be my second leaders of tomorrow you know. I think I'm going to do a best of the big D tone and to better than the other interviews for the When I went to protest a couple of years ago and That would have been good. Pass a podcast movement but either way anyway that would be good I would have put this into. I would put the best podcast. I mean podcast. The best friend the bad interview and the best I WANNA say travel PLOP. They'll be video but don't they put those best in their into a CD and sell it and all that good stuff so got a couple of good recording there. Still thank God. Thank God for that but I want to talk to you about money in the up. The chance of a lifetime the chance to take the title and go for Green. So I'm going to go down to The what they have and now when they do their petitions at CBS Even are like CPS because There little Their website I should say is a much more easier to read but nonetheless Here are the matches for. Wwe money in the bank. That it that the the the but I'm bending dump them all right so the money in the bank Cousteau Daniel pliant the Black Ramos Stereo King Quarter Oil and a J style. Aj styles for turning after a After a very good or bone yard match at the Mania and Otis have that Assessment with many roles. And that's the reason why diva taken from the wwe and King Kaufman has just the you know. Still coming from the king of the ring but haven't had that title yet. Ramos still thought to have for of Retired Daniel Bryan man haven't even gotten to break sold at us as our back but who do. I think it's GonNa come up on top and get that one kid one ten and that could take contact for title shot anytime within that year. Well I would have to give it to Alyssa black. Because he is a high flier and know how to defend themselves in the ring and but I don't think they mysteriosly could also get it to oldest. I'm not sure well. I am thinking between Alyssa black and of Amos deal now. Eight star football a surprise at the beginning by but my main Alice Black and Ray Mysterio to win the demand money in the bank so it could be a toss up on that but I I was black or Ray Ministerial in my book. The women money in the bank match up if the pfister. Oh Oscar. Shane obeys. Look now your shot. The return of Jet Dana Pro Lacey Lacey Evans. Give me and Camilla. Wow Well I walk couple of people to win this. I ask one to win this because evidently Stir from one of the title the title title if been really tough go and She would imagine but they were. GonNa let a good another title. So that's one of the devote that I want to win. Another issue obeyed. Limb Saint Baylor. Who came out of tea? And you know they I guess they got to tell you the Shaw Charlotte for saying the base or baseless Charlotte You get the idea but shane obeys. La might have title shot ninety. He came back into. Wwe She might be a surprise Dana. Brooke I don't know we have these teams heighten hair. Always a few matches here and there and they always tried to lay. Evan and doing push Carmelo a few times so he is what? I'm picking at the couple of deficits Oscar Shayna. Okay Mela Oscar. Shayna Okay Mela the top three to possibly win the money in the May because you never. You never know what's going to happen in these men women ladder match you never know. That's why I had top two in the man DOPP during the woman. You never ever know all right so these are probably the individual in Nano. They have tag team in. 'cause Vince always happened to have the habit of changing the matches every now and then and even tainted the last minute. That is why I waited to smack down the the home gone show before any pay per view. Because it's always contain my atop of the dime or maybe a billion also you know he could either taint the Deo few hour to three hours before the show so that's why wait to do predictions but some of these are mostly set in stone. So I could go to do this. The couple of other channels like See Wrestling already. They did their. I hear it yet but I wanted to wait. I do mine and I know a lot of wrestling wrestling podcasts. At done dare prediction shows. And all that stuff. So now don't you? I've been watching too much. Dam Talented is anyway annual WWe championship. Man is GonNa be through McIntyre versus the lucky one. The one that's Mariam becky lynch rally do tire. It's time for through to get the gold through Max dire universal championship bronze Stolman Catherine confirmed the smackdown bonds Bray Wyatt the Universal Championship. Now is it going to be pretty house? The funding how a firefighter funhouse Or is it going to be the theme everytime that brave wiig cut out like right down the whole going smackdown then the pay per view easily theme? So which one is going to be. The prayer is going to get the out or is it going to be the theme? Now thank the two. It's usually one one thing though. Go figure this one is a hard match Kubota the Utah Contenders for the bill While I'm thinking that process Brownstone to lose the title somehow to brave Wyatt. I think is going to take the bill back. And that's what I think. I think that's GonNa take the universal campy Tibet from Bronze Stolman. After a of well I wouldn't take short run but a good run though too and I like them both Now N provide so. Let's be Matt. These women championship is meant up. Next tally is gonNA give the Tamila. And I think we're GONNA have a plan. Hopefully hopefully Tesla is going to be the new smackdown women's champion. Hopefully this bellies show need to hug the title yet. It Pun intended to help the championship belt deal though smackdown. How tag team championship is up. Next as going to be the new day versus the forgotten I demand in John. Morrison the one with the. Hey the Heyhoe Heyhoe. That song I vs Lucia House Party how. I didn't know that many team talked about that. So I'M GONNA dull in three. I'M GONNA go to new day. Mythos John Milton John Morrison or lose to party now. Even though I'm anti he'll listen Midday John Morrison always have the way a team even though they liked that song that I like but new day Milton John More than or their health party. Death my possible the smackdown tied team Jumpy Roy. Now the raw tag team championship these properties versus the Viking radio both teams both teams have to take had the Viking raiders. Squash matches is always winning. He got the prophets looking. Good always always know how to do the Pope. 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Scott Peterson /// Part 1 /// 243

True Crime Garage

1:22:38 hr | 2 years ago

Scott Peterson /// Part 1 /// 243

"Support for this podcast comes from park row books, publisher of under my skin by New York Times, bestselling author, Lisa under under my skin is addictive psychological thriller about a woman on the hunt for husband's killer poppy is determined to unravel the mystery around her husband's death. But can she handle the truth about what really happened? Gonna love this new psychological thriller by Lisa Unger listened to the audio book for under my skin today. Welcome to true crime garage wherever you are, whatever you were doing. Thanks for listening. I'm Nick and I know it sounds pretty glamorous, but this guy knows it's business as usual at Cray. Marica. He is the captain and you can call me a SaaS, Elise Kramer. It's good to be seen in good to see you. Thanks for listening. Thanks for tone of France. Today tonight. And tomorrow we are drinking blackberry days by anchor brewing beautiful, San Francisco, California, garage grade three and a half bottle caps at a five. This is an IP. So of course, there are some Hoppy bitterness here, but the real action happens when the fruit is added during the secondary fermentation, the result is a funky synthesis of rich earth and ripe fruit. And this week's beer was brought to us by these fantastic garage army members. First up, we have Tessa from the sweet sweet land of Athens, Georgia, and a big shout out to Jennifer in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Next, we have a double cheers to ask and desharnais in receipt of California and the big cheers maids to Tinley in Bessemer, Alabama. And next we have Lucy in London, Kelly in Singapore and last, but not least cheers to Ellie who says she's moving to parts unknown. So thanks everybody for filling up the fridge for this week show. If you want to help us out. We show go to true crime, garage dot com and click on the donate, but that is enough of the bee's knees. Sard everybody gathered around grab it, share, grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime. Out of it. Did you ever hit her? Did you ever injure her? No. No, no. Filings towards women and. Unapproachable. It is the most disgusting act to me, but I know that suspicious turn me. It's. Turney one because I'm her husband and that's natural thing. And I answer your question because of suspicion that that's been turned to me, and it turned to me because of the inappropriate romantic. That I have ever fried and yes, he confirmed he did have the affair. Why were you doing. I can't. I don't know. That's a question you shouldn't entered to. Definitely. I don't know. Love with her. I have to say that I respect her. As imagine everyone does after seeing her come out and do the press conference, basic character. She is this the first time. Are there others out there. There's no one else who can come forward. I remain relationship and that is a. It's inappropriate, wasn't appropriate and bio tremendous policy to everyone, obviously including amber and her family and her friends and our families. Should have been. It should have been brought forth by me immediately that actually. Had you told anyone did you tell police told the police immediately when that was the first night together? The police I spent with the police. You tell them about her? Yeah, from several points. Fourth on your wife find out about it. I told my wife. Early december. Did it cause a rupture in the marriage. It was not. Positive, obviously. Yeah, enter appropriate. But it was not something we worked dealing with. A lot of our Jimmy. No, no, I, you know, I can't say that. That even, you know, she was okay with the idea. It wasn't anything that would break us a point. There wasn't a lot of anger. No. Do you really expect people to believe that eight and a half months pregnant woman learns her husband is having a fair and sank the casual about it. Accommodating makes a peace with it. Well. Yeah, I don't know. No one knows relationship with us. And that's. That peace with it. Not happy about it. Why did you tell her. It's the right thing. Other. Did you see her again after you? Totally. Yes. So I'm very again. But didn't tell her. Until they see fit and tell amber, no, no. No, that was definitely not the right thing. Because, again, you know that people sitting at home have imagined. That if you were in love with someone else, therefore you decided to. Get rid of this entanglement, namely, your wife and your child. Or there was just an angry confrontation. Modesto. California is a beautiful city. The weather in the proximity to the ocean, make it a great place to live a great place to raise a family and grow old violent crime is very low and Modesto, but keep your vehicle parked in the garage if you can, as Modesto has one of the highest percentages of vehicle thefts in our nation lacy, Denise Rocca was born in nineteen seventy five. The daughter of Sharon and Dennis lacy grew up in Modesto. Her parents split up when she was very young and her mother went on to remarry. Her stepfather was a dairy farmer. So lacy was raised on a farm. Now. She had an older brother Brent and a younger half sister, Amy lacy was a cheerleader in high school and majored in horticulture at California, poly tech institute and San Luis Obispo. Scott Peterson was born in nineteen seventy two. In San Diego, California to Lee Arthur Peterson, a businessman who owned a crate packaging company and Jackie Helen Leith who owned about teak called the put on leeann. Jackie had six children from previous relationships. Scott was their only child together almost like the Brady punch as Scott, took a playing golf at an early age. A result of time spent with his father by age fourteen. He could beat his father and a round of golf for a time. He had dreams of becoming a professional golfer, like Phil Mickelson, who was his teammate at the university of San Diego high school. By the end of high school. He was one of the top junior golfers in San Diego, and in nineteen ninety Peterson enrolled at Arizona State University where Mickelson had also enrolled on a partial golf scholarship. Mickelson would go on to become a very highly successful PG golfer and later Lee Peters. Sohn would state his son was discouraged by the considerable competition that Mickelson presented at AirAsia state. So eventually, Scott Peterson with transfer out of state, and he found his way to California poly tech state university. Whereas stated lacy was attending school. He initially planned to major an international business but changed his major to agricultural business. Professors who taught Scott described him as a model student and his agro-business professor, Jim Ahern commented, I wouldn't mind having a class full of Scott Peterson's. So Scott and lacy met while they were both attending Cal poly, Scott was working as a waiter at the Pacific cafe. Scott took Lacey's order, and she was so attracted to him that she asked a friend to give Peterson her phone number. They began dating on their first date. They went deep sea fishing in which Lacey got seasick while that. Should have been assigned to her. The couple dated for two years in eventually moved into gather. Now a nineteen ninety seven after Lacey graduated, they married at sycamore mineral springs resort. Scott would have to stay in college and finish his senior year. Meanwhile, Lacey took a job after Scott graduated. The Peterson's opened up a sports bar called the shack. The business was initially slow, but eventually improved, especially on weekends. The Peterson's later sold the shack in two thousand when they moved to Lacy's hometown of Modesto to start their family and October of two thousand. They purchased a three bedroom home for one hundred seventy seven thousand dollars on Covina avenue. An upscale neighborhood near les Loma park. Lacey started working part time as a substitute teacher. Scott got a job at trade Corp USA newly founded subsidiary of a Spanish fertilizer company. The company was trying to establish. A customer base in the US and hired Scott as their west coast Representative working on a salary plus commission base Peterson, sold fertilizer, irrigation systems, chemical nutrients and related products too big farms and flower growers primarily in California, Arizona, and New Mexico lacy. She worked enthusiastically at being the perfect housewife, enjoying cooking and entertaining their friends and two thousand and two. She was excited when she found out she was pregnant. The baby was due February tenth, two thousand and three on December twenty four, two thousand and two. It's Christmas Eve, and Lacey was eight months pregnant with the couple's first child whom they had already named CONNER. The nursery was ready for the baby painted blue and decorated with a nautical theme according to Scott, he and Lacey woke together at their home in Modesto, California, after eating breakfast and watching. Some TV, Scott was going to spend part of the day fishing. He left the house at nine thirty AM just before leaving. Scott was seen in the driveway loading umbrellas into his truck Whitley outside unbrellas. He had three of them and he's going to take them to his warehouse. He had a warehouse that he would work out of and we know it was him because it was the next door neighbor that saw him in they exchange quick wave. Hello, Lacey told him she was going to mop the floor, take the dog for a walk. You know, do some normal household things that they have a party, a family party. They're going to attend to later that day. Now, Scott, I drove to his nearby warehouse to send emails and retrieve his boat. So this warehouses where he worked out of and not only would he read some and send some emails, but he also assembled something for work. Yeah, it was a Saul after he hooks up the boat in the trailer to his truck. He's. Going to head out to Berkeley marina which is about eighty six miles away. Scott goes fishing for about ninety minutes. Then at two seventeen PM Scott left this voicemail on lacy cellphone, high, beautiful. I just left you a message at home to fifteen. I'm leaving Berkeley. I won't be able to get to villa farms to get the basket for Papa. I was hoping you would get this message and go out there. I'll see you in a little bit, sweetie. I love you. Bye. Scott returned his boat to the warehouse. He did stop off for gas and then he went home to an empty house and he showered he says he got home around or about four thirty. Scott notice Lacey's vehicle still at the house as well as her purse and car keys. Scott did some laundry washing the clothes. He wore that day as they were from working in fishing about an hour passes. And Scott said that he just assume lacy went to her mother's house, the mother-in-law. Come by and picked her up. So he calls his mother in law's asking and looking for his wife. She says, he's not there and then a half an hour later Lacey Lacey stepfather called nine one one to report that Lacey was missing. Of course, we should say that the neighbor found their dog. The Peterson's dog still wearing a leash and wandering and front of the house by itself. There's conflicting reports on what I could find as to an exact time of what time the neighbor believes. They found the dog. But what I have is that it was in the eleven o'clock. I'm sorry. Ten o'clock to eleven o'clock hour. Yeah, a lot of people suspect based on her, our receipts and Ahrends that she ran that day would have been about ten eighteen. The police were acting on this call this missing persons call immediately. And Scott. I met Modesto police on the day that Lacey went missing at a nearby park where he was there. Supposedly looking for lacy. This was a park where she was known to have walked the dog and as Lacey's husband, Scott was immediately on the police's radar. Now, police gave Scott opportunities to be forthcoming with information and Scott was cooperative, at least in the beginning, Scott, allow them to search their home. This was very quickly after lacy was reported missing, right? The authorities also searched Peterson's pickup truck toolbox, warehouse and boat. A Scott answered their questions. I guess the best that he could police noted Scott strange behavior such as how he couldn't remember the kind of bait he was using when he was supposedly out there fishing that morning, right? Nor did he know what kind of fish he was fishing, four. So on top of that, his boat as made for freshwater. And he was in the San Francisco Bay, which is saltwater. So I think a little explanation is needed. Here. We have this this man, Scott Peterson who says that on Christmas Eve rather than spending the day with my wife who's expecting our child. I decided to go out fishing now we can't. We're not going to crucify anybody for that. Okay. Maybe that was on man. Maybe something that was agreed upon between the two of them and he was eager to try out this boat or to be out on the boat and fishing. The thing that strange here the for me captain is he's out by himself and again, he doesn't know what kind of bait he's using. He doesn't know what kind of fish he's fishing for on on top of that. You have a boat that is again made for freshwater and urine saltwater. Also nine foot, long boat, I believe, and, and that's not that type of boat is not commonly used and that type of water. Not just the salt water, but and the conditions that the San Francisco Bay is normally in. It's not meant for that and it's not, like you said, it's not a very big boat. And the other thing too. I remember when news of this story broke, I just assume that Scott was a avid fisherman, and it turns out that he's, he's not he doesn't. He's not a weekend warrior that goes out all the time of it. He he did fish in his past and that that was something people did know that he has done. Right, right. But like I said, my expectations when the when the news broke was, I was like, oh, well, this guy probably goes out fishing all the time. They're calling this into question and maybe it shouldn't be called into question the guy that didn't know what kind of fish he was fishing for in that area nor what bait to use during that particular trip. But what he could offer up was proof that he was on his boat and he, he went to the Berkeley marina and evidence. Of such was a launch ticket receipt from the marina, right? Because if you have to put your boat into the water, and so when he when you go to do that, you have to get a launch ticket. Now, what's important in this story is to know what it said and it's the little detail. So let's stay with on December twenty. Fourth, the call is made to the mother and father in law Scott's going to call his mother and father in law, they're the ones that are going to call nine one one saying, hey, our daughter's missing. She's been missing since roughly nine thirty. Our son in law went golfing. Okay. That didn't say he went fishing. He says he went fishing, they say he went golfing. Scott then goes. Next door starts knocking on the neighbors asking if anybody seen lacy. Nobody has seen her. He goes to the park. This is when he meets with the police officers. They take him downtown now normally in a missing person. Case when they're talking the husband, they don't record the Nishel interview. But for whatever reason that day, the police decided we're going to record this in that they asked him as there any problems with the marriage. He says, absolutely. None. They say, do you mind taking a polygraph? The following day on Christmas is says, no problem at all. I will take one right, and we also know that they searched the Peterson house that day as well. Yes. So let's go through that a little bit in better detail. So there are a lot of reports out there. I lead into that captain, but I say there are a lot of reports out there. There's like a million different stories. You know, online newspaper, this was huge news is not even just fair to say, big news. This was this was known in other countries and followed by people in other countries while a lot of that becau is because there's a normally very slow news cycle around the holidays. And so when this broke when the story broke, a lot of reporters were thinking, hey, this is this is our next OJ. This is our next Jon Benet Ramsey case. Well, and the thing here too is in some of those reports actually in a good amount of those reports that I read says, Peterson, reported his wife, missing Peterson, reported lacy missing, and we you, and I know that not to be true now that may not mean anything in the grand scheme of things. But just so we're clear, he's not the one that call. Police. It was in fact his father in law, which, again, I think you can't look into too much because, hey, I'm a little nervous. Let's call the cops and Scott says, okay, while go next door and start knocking on the doors. And the other thing too is where in even I said, at this way, Scott met the officers at the park where Lacey typically would walk the dog. My understanding of it is that his father in law lacy stepfather insisted that they send an officer over to that area to that neighborhood to ask Scott for the details. So I don't know. I can't say one hundred percent of Scott willingly knew he was meeting the police officer or officers at the park, or like you said, he's out looking in the neighborhood for his wife and happens to come across the officer that was sent by the stepfather who insisted that the officers go out there. So basically the story that Scott is telling that we can. When there's some evidence that possibly he's telling the truth. I mean, he talks about what they did in the morning, what he did when he got home. So when he talks about like she was gonna mom, and when he got home, he found the mop and the bucket. So he dumps out the the bucket and put some back in, but he leaves it outside. That's something that the police found at their home, right? They also find the bed is made. They find the clothes that she supposedly was wearing the day before or in the hamper. They find a bench that is out and you know, hair tools to I, that's probably the worst way to call it hair tolls. I saw for your hair tools away. I saw one report that it was a curling iron. Other reports, say, maybe it was curls curlers. Brian shoot, say also believe that he says, you know, I might. I ate a piece of pizza for breakfast. But I ate one when I got home from fishing. When I took a shower, they find his clothes in the washer. They find evidence that he did have pizza at some point. So yeah, I guess a pizza box was found either on the counter or on the table. Right? And then I believe he also explains to him. I found the dog in the backyard with the leash on. So some of the things that he is stating parts of the story that he believes happen. There's evidence of such. Yes. And further evidence would be Scott shows the police, his work computer at some point and their law enforcement. They saw the timestamped work emails? Yeah. Eventually they're going to go to work warehouse the first time that they go to the work warehouse. He claims that the power's out now. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but they ended up opening up the, there's I believe, the way it works and they. They say it's an strip mall, but I think it's more of like at one of these smaller warehouse strips, and so you have a door that goes into your office and you. Then you have a most like a bay. You have a garage door that would come up. Yeah. And it looks exactly like that that it's a big warehouse that separated into the smaller units that are rented out or some kind of storage facility. You know, some people work out of those self storage units. The two big things here, though we can prove he's not lying about is the big actions of his day one. He did go to work as he said and two. He was definitely on his boat at some point that day now, and I believe that marina ticket was for, I think it was eleven thirty ish that day. And then we, they're guessing who's on the boat for about about ninety minutes? Yeah, the police check the computers at the house as well. Now, here is something interesting. Scott said that he thought lacy was doing some online shop. Ping that morning the morning that she went missing and police check her computer, and they are able to confirm that Lacey had. In fact, on some shopping, there was a purchase made on her computer, and this would have been at like eight to eight thirty that morning and police also were told by Scott that Lacey was watching Martha Stewart when he had left the house. Yeah, and he actually knew some of these details as well about about what they were talking about during the show. Now captain two things that I wanna point out one with the police response, they immediately went into action and you talked about, hey, they usually don't. You know people down to a, you know, a formal interview in video tape the interview. But as you were about to say, we both believe that they went into an immediate response because this is an eight month pregnant woman, and that's likely. 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Because apparently there was a robbery at one of the Peterson's neighbor's house out some of these reports say Christmas Eve, but we have the police that would say the home across the street owned by Rudy and Suzanne Medina was robbed two days after Lacey disappeared. There are several witnesses that would say the robbery happened and occurred on December twenty four th the day that Lacey went missing right now. We also have a neighbor. This is Dianne Jackson who says she saw three suspicious looking men at the Medina's house police later arrested, two men in connection to the robbery. Yeah, some have suggested that the police should have treated the men as possible suspects and Lacey. He's and Connor's disappearance. We also have sightings of lacy after Scott left the house at nine thirty AM back to the guys that broke into the house once they kind of knew that they were had right, like we're gonna get in trouble for breaking into this house. They both stated we had nothing to do with the pregnant girl. We had nothing to do with that, right? Because they're seeing this on the news at this time and probably panicking even if it was in fact two days after one also could wonder, why do we not know if it's twenty four twenty fifth or twenty? Six while the problem was that the people that lived in that house they left, they went, you know, somewhere else for the holidays. So there were gone for a few days. So that's another reason why there's discrepancy there regarding the sightings of lacy. There were eleven witnesses that said that they saw lacy on Christmas Eve morning. Some. Claiming to have seen her walking her dog. Now this is a bold statement and it doesn't actually seem so bold. Once you dive into it a bit because captain eleven people coming forward saying, we saw this woman who goes missing after her husband left the house for the day, and we saw her walking her dog. That's eleven people, right, right. I couldn't find eleven actual reports of people saying, I saw lacy Peterson, walking her dock after nine thirty. What reports I could find were things like this. We have one report where a woman states that she saw a woman walking her dog who was involved in some kind of verbal altercation with some men. This woman decides not to report this not to offer any help, but later reports that it's lacy Peterson, walking her dog and actuality, she reports having seen a woman walking her dog. We also have reports that state a woman. In matching that description and a dog matching that description were seen by people later that day. So we don't have anybody specifically that I could find. Now my caveat here is I did not find all eleven reports, but at no point did I find anybody stating naming her by name? So I question a lot of the signings. And again, we have discrepancy as to win a home was broken into what day that could have taken place. There's a lot going on at the holidays. There's a lot going on in this investigation. There are people that are not spoken to immediately and sometimes we have a hard time getting things confused about dates and times once of that, it's not like just walked the dog that day, and that's the lane days. She's ever walked a dog. She typically walk the dog every day. So we also have police questioning, Scott Peterson's behavior, things that he's doing things that he's not doing and why his face looks like a turtle. I think we should talk about. Scotts demeanor and the way that the police regard, this is they stay. He looks extremely casual. During the times we spoke with him during the questioning and what they mean by that is at no point is he fist to the table saying, let's get back out there and look for my wife. You know, what are you doing to find my wife? He's just sitting back very casually in his chair. Almost, you know, he's not even leaning forward to be aggressive towards the officers. Anyway, he's if you watched the videos, he's very relaxed and he seems like he almost seems tired. Yeah. I mean, well, he did have a long day, but on top of that, it's I think he's trying to be cooperative, but I don't know. I mean, I, I guess you're supposed to be young and screaming at people to find your wife. I don't know that you are. I'm just kind of thinking how I think it would go down if I were in that situation. And I think that's where we get in trouble with some of these stuff. As we go all, there's a difference between somebody acting odd and somebody not acting the way you would act. Yeah. I mean, I agree, but I still found his, I find him to be acting strangely one in this is not just me stating this. This is the police saying, this is well, we, we didn't understand his behavior. He was overly casual. He also didn't offer up where or what the police should and house should prioritize their investigation where where should we looking for her Scott? Is there anybody that we should be talking to? Does she have any? You know, he doesn't have any information to offer them. Now, Scott does in his defense. As you stated earlier, he does agree to take a polygraph test. Apparently the way this goes down is this day. He's going to take it the next day, but I think I don't know that that's his requests or the police's request through, but but the end result is that he ends up calling them the next morning and says, yeah, I'm not coming in for that polygraph test right now. And at this point he gets a lawyer, yes. And again, I should be, you know, you're, you're doing a good job of. Presenting the other side or trying to understand the other side. And I do want to be clear here because I've said plenty of times on this show that if I were in the situation, I would not agree to a polygraph. You have nothing to gain in my opinion. So I don't want it to sound like I'm fault faulting him where the police did very verbally and publicly state, hey, look, this guy won't even take a polygraph to, I think it's a little their words. Yeah, but I think I think the difference is when you got individual that's very calm, answering your questions, you'd think he's being truthful. You say, hey, do you mind taking a polygraph? He says, absolutely not the next day. He says, absolutely. I'm not going to take one and change my mind. I'd say my mind and all by the way, I'm going to get a lawyer. So that's I mean, again, and but some of his story. Starts not lining up. Well, I think captain what I see is a guy that he's a squirm he in any kind of verbal situation all if he needs to he, he, I think he thinks he can squirm his way out of it. Yeah, but squirm. I don't know if squirm is the right way because because he, you know, he's so fat, Joe Wright, lean back. Lean back in back that that when people ask him questions, he takes his time. You know what I mean? And so by doing that, he can get out of the answer he can. He can just manipulate the the phrasing here and there does making sense. I, I see both. I see a guy that that squirms his way out of answers and squirms his way into new answers. No, no, somebody that it's not. No, I get that part. What I'm saying. He doesn't do it super quickly. It's not like he jumps on, you know, he's, he tried to stay level the whole time. I mean, yes. Is he switching answers here and there? Yes, but he tries to stay level because he, I think he thinks his head. I'm smarter than these people. I just stay cool and calm and I'll outsmart them. I also think that he didn't think he was going to have to answer so many questions or be under the microscope. So I because he established a alibi. The other thing that I found to be a strange interaction was the police come back in. Yeah, they looked at the home and walked through the home and the way that I think that that went down that it was a rather quick brief walk around. Yeah, he did show them the home in rooms of that home the night that she went missing or the, you know, the Christmas Eve, right? They come back and we need to do a detail. Failed search. We need to bring in forensics. We need to do everything we can, and we really need to search this home top to bottom Scott Peterson. And he says to him, well, you know, I can't allow you to do that without my lawyer present or or without permission from my attorney. And actually what they did is they got a search warrant. And then when they went to, they sent him up, they set him up one hundred percent and that's the thing they said, yeah, Scott, we don't need your permission. Here's our warrant. We're going to be. They just wanted to see his reaction right there wanted to see if they would agree to search and he was pretty smug about saying, you know, probably not going to let do that and they go well, cool. We don't need your permission anyways because we got a search warrant basis shit. Well, let's talk about this boat that Scott owned because I found this boat is a debate of great argument. Did Scott by this boat and try to keep it a secret from Lacey and her family. That's one thought. And then there are others say, no, he did not. So what we do know is this the boat was purchased with cash just a few weeks before lacy went missing. So Scott paid fourteen hundred dollars for the boat, the trailer and bunch of pretty good grade fishing equipment. Now, the fishing equipment is interesting here because Scott actually looked at three boats. He considered purchasing one of these three boats, right? This boat for my understanding. Captain is the only one that included good fishing equipment or any fishing equipment at all. And what what people would say about that is that when given the option, if you're buying a boat right with the intention of using it for the sole purpose of dumping a body, you're getting rid of a body. You might want to get the bigger boat than this. Small boat. It might be easier to do that in the bigger boat. But no, he chose the small boat with fishing equipment or you might want to have purchased the cheaper boat that sheeps boat that didn't include any fishing equipment because you're just using, you're not going to use it for fishing, right? But in the end, he did by the boat with the fishing equipment. Some people point out that that shows some intention or what his intentions were for the use of that boat. That proves nothing. Well, of course, but we're, we're here to debate it, right. No, I'm that's not a debate that proves nothing. He bought a boat with cash. That's all it proves. There was some things added onto that boat a trailer. Yeah, some fishing lords. That doesn't show his intent for the boat at all. The owner of the boat sold the boat to Scott. He was the one that requested this Scott, pay him cash for the boat. Now the boat the, I'm sorry, the cash was deducted from a joint Bank account which he shared with Lacey. Now, there's also stories the Lacey went to the warehouse where the boat was stored when the boat was stored there as a few days before she went missing, she had to use the restroom, and I don't think these warehouses had their own restrooms. That's what I'm guessing because she had to have somebody that worked at the warehouse, take her to the restroom. That's how they have a I witnessed that said, hey, we saw lacy here a few days before she went missing. Right? So people then claim if that's true, she knew about the boat. Again, she may not even gone into that particular warehouse into the the unit that the boat was stored. Right? And he might never opened up the garage door. She might never have seen the boat. So that is not proof that she knew there was a boat. Scott purchased a registered boat rather than one that was not registered. People would state that that might be evidence that he wasn't trying to keep this boat secret. Okay. But nobody in the family knew about the boat, right? There's no person, and, and again, you can speculate that Lacey was at the warehouse, so she knew about the boat or that he pulled money from their join account, and she knew about the boat. We have no proof. There is no evidence that she knew of this boat. Correct. There's only Scott stating that she knew about the bo-. All right. And again, let's let's get this on the table throughout the rest of the show were gonna show. The million lies that he has told suggest because he says anything, I will not believe it. So again, there is zero proof that Lacey Peterson knew about this boat that he was storing at his work facility. And here's the other thing too. There. There's a chance that Lacey. I don't know their financial situation, but there's a chance that she may not notice fourteen hundred dollars missing from their joint account. There's also a chance that he pulled out the money and told her he had to use it for something else, right? This is a known liar on top of that. She is substitute teacher. They don't make that great of money. I mean, all teachers period are underpaid, shout out to all the teachers doing great work, keep it up the captain approves. So if he's making more money than her and again, he has pulled out, hey, Honey, I needed to use it for this or Honey. I need to use it for this. I mean, there is again, there's zero proof that she knew about this boat. Well, in an obvious lie that he could tell her as he traveled for work, you know, and there are expenses that come with that and he did say, look, I'm I haven't been reimbursed for. These expenses yet, or I need to spend this money for work for this purpose and they are going to reimburse me soon. Right again, he's, but he's a known liar. Who knows what lie he he, he told her outs could have told her, Scott would later tell Lacey's mother that Lacey knew about the boat. And the reason why she and he kept the boat secret was because the boat was purchased for a gift for Lacey's. Father. Yeah, and it's technically hers, her stepfather, right, but her parents got split up. So she was very young. She was raised by this man. Yeah, and so it was going to be a gift again, I think. She told a friend or or another family member about this, this present, you'd think there'd be should be so excited. You know, to keep a secret for a few weeks, you know, who knows? Well, that's that's interesting that you say that because regardless if it was a gift or not, this is not a boat that she didn't lacy discussed with anybody with any of her friends with any of her family. That's why said people have to keep in their mind that there is zero evidence there, zero proof that she knew about this boat. I actually think that had she known about the boat depending on how often she was hanging out with friends or family. I think it would came up. And what I mean by that is we have a guy that's coughing a lot. He also travels for work a lot and they have a baby on the way. I, I would think whether it be husband or wife that the the person on the receiving end of that is going well. He golfs a lot. He's a. Away for work at times we got a baby on the way and now he just bought a boat, right, right. Or or the fact that your babies do you know a month month and a half and in your spinning dissection money that we don't need to spend on the boat. Okay. Yeah. In her father, her stepfather, however, you wanna look at it. He already had a boat and this guy was an avid fisherman, right? He had a big nice fishing boat. He didn't have this little boat that Scott Peterson had purchased for fourteen hundred dollars. Again, this is a bullshit story in this is why, because if I you know, bought a boat for my father, say, I don't have that kind of cash, but if I should, I went, he doesn't deserve a boat. But if I had the cash, right, and I bought the boat. I'm not testing out the boat. I'm not all well, you know, yeah, I went on my boat. Again, you're telling bunch of people your tone law enforcement. You told all these people you went out on your boat, but but then later go, well, but it's not really my boat. We bought it for Lacey's father. Okay. Give me a break. It's one of the other right either your boat or it's his boat. And if it's his bowl, we wanna take Smith eve, that's that's kind of falling into the realm of what you would do compared to what you think odd behavior and as well as it's not what I find that he right. But what I find odd behavior is calling it your boat then saying it was actually for somebody else. Okay. That's what I find to be odd behavior. The FBI in the Modesto police department performed forensic searches of the Peterson home. The FBI also conducted might. Conrail DNA testing on a hair that was found in pliers on Peterson's fishing boat that linked them to hairs recovered from Lacey's hairbrush, right? Should we go into detail about that? Because I don't think it's just that cut and dried, is it because what we do know about these hairs or this hair was they stayed. They belong some reports state that they belong to Lacey Peterson, right? The truth of the matter is what they could prove was they didn't belong to Scott. They're close enough is what law enforcement they the wording is they're consistent with hairs belonging to Lacey Peterson so they can't rule her out. But at the same token, they probably could include a whole bunch of other people as not being able to rule them out your and then the people on the other side will say, hey, this is the guy's wife. He should have. Hairs on him, hairs of her on his shirt, hairs of him are hairs of her in his car hairs of her on a boat, which we don't even know if she knew about or Saul. Yes, if you're married to somebody and he spent a bunch of time with them, you probably have some hairs of theirs on you, right? That doesn't mean you're going to find their hair and pliers. So I think this is damning piece of evidence, but the continue what the other thing that I thought was interesting that the found in his warehouse was the concrete. There was a a wood area almost like a wood bench. They found a homemade anchor that he made for his boat. And basically what you do is you take concrete mix, put it in a little tub, add the water, stir that up, and then you put either like a hook where you take a piece of rebar and. You've been that and you put that into the concrete and then went once it dries pulled out of the tub right then arresting Dane as he did make one. We have evidence that he made one. We see one in his boat odd thing about that though is there's no rope attached to it. So I don't know if you know how anchors work, but you can't as drop, you know this heavy piece of concrete if it's not tied to rope. So he had this anchor that there was no rope with and they believe that he made more than one based off the extra. Residue and the extra concrete is a powder that they think possibly he made four to five, maybe more? Yeah, depends on who you talk to. So some would say he made one and others would say, like you said, as many as four or five, we have proof. He made one for sure, right of course. But the where, where the higher numbers come from is that on that work bench, there were rings. There were additional rings where it looked like somebody had made four or five of these, and then a ring had dried like a residue ring had dried on this workbench, and it caning that he was drying as many as four, five at one time or after shortly after they had dried, I've never made one of these molds in a in a bucket where a pitcher or whatever they wanna claim they were made in. I've made concrete molds. Four, but not a homemade anger. Okay. Can you pull you don't pull it out until it's dried though. Right? Yeah. I mean, you could do it wouldn't semi dried. I mean, that's probably the best way because. Sometimes you can use, like, let's say you're using a old Tupperware or like a plastic bowl that like maybe butter comes in, then if it dries, it doesn't matter. You're just going to break that that bowl off. But if you're going to reuse that bowl, you pull it pulled out low earlier. And then if you set it down somewhere to dry, it could very likely leave a ring where it was resting. Yeah. Okay. So under that situation, that's what they claim that there was enough rings on this work bench to indicate that he had made four or five of these homemade anchors. Right? And I, I think it's really important keeping your head that there is one of the anchors that he made and his boat that is not attached to anything. No rope. I just think that's important piece of evidence, right? I do too, and I think that's interesting that you point that out. I was unaware that there was no rope connecting it to something in the boat or his. Here's why it's important because if it's not tied and is not being used as anchor as being used as something else, and that's all you need to know. All right next piece. So we should point out at this point that from the moment of Lacey's disappearance, the Roka family Lacey's mother stepfather and brother and half sister repeatedly spoke to the media in a teary eyed manner. Viewers have come to expect from loved ones in crisis. The family publicly supported her husband and defended his innocence. The public's view of Scott Peterson was a different story now on December thirty first, two thousand and to the town of Madam. Esto held a public vigil for lacy and CONNER Scott declined to speak at the vigil, but he was in attendance, and so we're photographers who captured him in what some would claim to damning photos and one picture, Scott Benz down alongside his niece to set down a candle. A big smile comes across his face in a second picture. He is standing with some people in laughing how this behavior at the vigil for his missing wife and unborn child where see received to be bad axe by this guy. Some explained that Scott Peterson's demeanor was simply aloofness. We do know as we pointed out, everyone handles things differently and there is no guidebook on how to behave. When one's eight month pregnant wife goes missing. Yeah. The difficult thing here though, too is if you're at of it for hours and hours, somebody that. You know somebody that you care about, are they gonna come up, maybe they say ham, sorry, we're gonna find her hug it out, and then they say something silly trying to make you laugh trying to make you smile. So that is a possibility. And you get one or two pictures. It's not like he got five thousand pictures of this guy to make jokes day, right? But quickly there was media scrutiny. There was Nancy grace and the public did start to turn on Scott. And this was thought because he wasn't sad enough or he wasn't panicked enough and in the general public for the most part, they just didn't believe him while he's also not being out in front of the media. He's not doing interviews. He's not doing the press conferences. It's almost like he doesn't wanna be seen, and there's a lot of other weird stuff. I mean, if you have, if you haven't seen gone girl, it's a great fictional story. But if that is not based off of this the night, don't know what it's based off of. I mean, I think. I think she basically took that story and took the Scott Peterson lacy, Peterson story and ran with it. They have a search site set up. One of the things that who's doing that I find particularly odd is that they're putting up all these pictures of lacy. And anytime there's a picture put up of ham and her, he's taking it down and when they catch him, taking it down, he'd go, it's just too hard to look at this. You mean you mean that because he's not in front of the media that statement. Girl statement will know the, I think the whole story of Scott Peterson, Lisa Peterson, I think they, I think Gillian Flynn, I believe is very, I think she took the whole idea of this story and turn it until book. I mean, we have a wasn't that a fake disappearance. It. Well, spoiler alerts. Well, I mean, you're, but you're claiming that that that one may have been taken from the other, but they're different stories, not not the first half of it. So I was just trying to get some clarification as to if you read the first half of the book, it's pretty much the Scott Peterson story, right? That's what I was asking. You mean him not being forthcoming with the media him not getting out in front of the media. Right? Well part, partly that I mean, look, I mean, typically when there's a missing wife, it's the husband that's doing all the press conferences saying, hey, help me find my wife. I mean, we see that time and time. Again, in this case, he's not even there. He's been on stage like they're doing a press conference and he's like, Nah, I don't wanna be on stage right anytime that they for for the first week or so. They're only showing pictures of her because he's controlling because he's not letting the media have pictures of him and her together. So again, there's no rules on how you're supposed to knack how you're supposed to act. But I find that a little strange of course, of course. And later we would learn that Scott Peterson, did something else during lacy and Connor's vigil as well. He called his girlfriend and this is amber Frye is on. Fry fry. Okay. Let's go back though because the visual, the vigil screw that word up every time is how many days afterwards. Well, she was according to Scott. She was alive and well, the morning of the twenty fourth and the vigil was held on New Year's Eve on the thirty. First right now, I think this is something that people glaze over a lot two days after she goes missing Scott Peterson, he orders porn. And I think the day after yours porn, he orders porn multiple times. I don't think he, I don't think there's a record of him ever ordering porn before. Yeah, I'm not certain how this works or what he did exactly the way the the reports that I read was that he purchased two channels. So I don't know if that's just something you pay for on a monthly basis in its their gimme. The channel all the time. Yeah, like lead it twenty four seven doesn't. It's very clear to me captain that this wasn't like he ordered a movie, and the movie is starts in finishes, and then he's, you know, that's that's all because he then later weeks later cancelled these two channels, right? So this is that's like me getting the NFL network. As some point you have to call back and cancel before it comes off your Bill on TV, warm self out because he wasn't going to the press conferences, wasn't out looking for his wife, his wearing himself out playing a game of. Yeah, but that by that point too, I think it was public knowledge that he order those channels and he's like, well, I should probably maybe I read it rid of these because look your wife. Again, there's no rules on how things work, but your wife, your pregnant wife months away from having your first child. She goes missing a needs aside, it's time to pull the pud well, it's time to pull out old purple headed yogurt. Slinger. I mean, come on and you. This is that would be the furthest thing from your mind back to the gun girl thing comparison, both of them had a girlfriend? Well, the thing too is I know we keep. We need to quit harping on this because I know there is no set rule of how to behave an act in this difficult situation. However, I think it's a fair statement for us to say, we can as reasonable adults, sit back, observe what's going on and make an a personal judgment. Make a personal judgment of. Yeah, this seems a little weird. Yeah. And is it, is it proof of anything? No, but. I'm gonna stay this. Is it proof of anything? No, but I still think that it goes in the category of evidence. Well, of course, and and ultimately will when it comes to trial. Okay. Let's introduce amber Frye here. She's a massage therapist, a single mom. She was introduced to Scott by friend. This was in November of two thousand and two as basically how this goes down as that Scott hits on the friend at a work conference, and she was an a relationship. So she says, sorry, Scott, no, thanks. But I have a friend you might like, are you sure it went down that way because here's the way I think it went down. I think he's hitting on this woman. That's in a relationship in his way of extending the offer is by saying, hey, I know you know that I'm married, but do you have any friends that I could meet? I think that's his his casual way of being slick and sly offering himself up to that woman. No, he didn't tell her. He was married. Okay. He didn't tell this woman that he was. Hitting on that he was married? No, she didn't know. No, it was. I'm trying to get with you and she's like, yeah, I get that. But you have a friend. I get that. But I, I think there's a chance she may have known because why would you say, hey, buddy of mine, amber Frye year, single mom working your butt off your instead of going out and finding a a nice, single man. Here's this guy. No, that's married right then. And so the the way I heard it was he was hidden on this girl. She said, hey, no, I'm not really interested. You're not my type or whatever, or she was in a relationship, but she said, hey, I've a friend, you might like that. That makes a lot of sense. And I, the reason I got confused here. Captain was I know that at some point, amber questions, if Scott is in fact, single tells amber, he single, she questions it. She goes to somebody that knew the both of them. I guess I just assumed it was. Her friend, right? I don't think that it was because your logic makes one hundred percent. That's gotta be right. And she goes to somebody that they both know and says, hey, I, I have some suspicions here is Scott Peterson, single, and this person says you're going to need to talk to Scott. Right, right, right. And and I think that they though too is when they first started hanging out, she asked him. You know, have you ever been married? He says, no, he then later tells her that he was married in early December, two thousand and two. The two are photograph together at a holiday party. Now, according to amber, Scott told her he was not married, and I know we're kind of going through that now, but his explanation was that he had been too busy with work for a wife children or even a dog, which is funny and and cruel on several levels because obviously, Scott win saying this has a wife has Sheild on the way and adult which have I'm not wrong. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I believe the picture that he's at this party with his mistress with his girlfriend. He takes a picture at Christmas party and that same night Lacey had a party that she had. Attended alone. Okay. So. Like once that comes out in the media, he just even looks more like dirt bag and December thirtieth. This is after seeing newspaper articles about Lacey Peterson's disappearance. Amber Frye called a tip line and told police. She was dating Scott Peterson, and she immediately began working with the police to pool whatever useful information she could out of her quote, unquote boyfriend and secretly recording their calls all in all. She would alternately record over twenty nine hours of phone calls with Scott Peterson. Yeah, one of the things that you hear and the Diane Sawyer. And our view is he slips of the tongue. A couple of times at the point of the interview, his wife is not found dead yet she is just missing and he says that Lacey was. A kind person and then says is that's one of the slips that other slip is. He says, you know, the fair is wrong was wrong. That's how he corrects it. The reason why belief he said this is because even after she goes missing, he's still making contact on a daily basis. Sometimes two to three calls a day now to play devil's advocate. A lot of people argue that while the cops wanted her to try to get him to maybe confess or something, so they kind of pushed the issue. You know she is making calls to him, but the majority of the calls that are happy the communication he is the one making the contact, right, right. And actually, regardless of who's calling who I mean the report, I read said that there were two hundred and forty one calls in the course of ninety three days. I think. Yeah, one of the things that we kind of skipped over because we're now, you know, at around the time a couple of days after lacy is missing on December ninth as round the time that he actually comes clean with amber and states. Hey, yeah, I did lie to you about something. I need to tell you about something and she goes, well, what is it while I was married, not married anymore, implying these not married anymore, but he was married. And then she never really asked much about it because he says that he lost his wife and then from December ninth to December twenty four th it's gonna come out that he lost his wife just before Christmas, and this is going to be the first holiday that he spends alone first Christmas season without. His wife and I wonder captain if that was triggered by that conversation, she had with her friend, hey, I wonder, Scott, is he telling the truth? Is he actually married in that friend says, hey, you need to talk to Scott about that. That triggers that conversation. And here again, in my opinion, I, I see a guy kinda squirm in his way out of it and saying, well, here's where the confusion comes in. I was married. Yeah, the. The study in this case all week and. Mainly because you know the last case, the staircase, the Michael Peterson case, highly requested by listeners, Scott Peterson, more so requested by listeners, and we decided, hey, be clever. Let's put him back to back, but never watched the Simpsons. Right? But this episode this last week I was watching football than it turns into the Simpsons. I'm kinda cleaning up a family room and then I'm watching the Simpsons and it's all about how Bart told a lie. And Lisa comes in there and says. Bar. It's not the first lie that gets you. It's the lies that you have to tell to cover up the first one. And I just thought that so fitting that were covering the Scott Peterson case this week because it's the initial live saying, I'm not married. I don't have kids. I don't have a dog turns into well, now you think I'm married. So now I have to cover that up. I was married. A lot of people will also state that these statements on December ninth from him saying, hey, my wife went missing. You know before Christmas that this is actually evidence of premeditation. Yeah, some kind of confession of future events are going to take place. The interesting thing to me though is it's, it's December, thirtieth in amber. Frye comes out. She contacts polices, hey, I'm dating Scott Peterson, and then it's the next day. The next day where Scott Peterson tells amber, he's ringing in the new year in Paris with friends when he's actually at Lacey Peterson's vigil. Right? So at that vigil, we have the press taken a couple pictures of him smiling and and saying all while this is damning evidence. Again, I don't think that's evidence of anything because he could have been samba the whole time. What the damning piece of evidence is your at a visual for your pregnant wife missing, and you call your girlfriend and tell her that you're at the Eiffel tower, celebrating with friends and all man ringing in the new year. I mean to me that's evidence well, and we have to keep in mind too, that Scott Peterson and Lacey's family, neither of them know that the police are aware of Scott's affair or that amber was recording their phone calls, which is. Another lie that he says in the Diane Sawyer interview. He states that he told the police December twenty four th right away about the fair, and that was a lie. Then in mid January two thousand and three police learned that the National Enquirer had its in its possession of photo of amber and Scott and they intended to publish it. Right. So let's break this down real quick. 'cause one right when they hear that Scott Peterson has a girlfriend and this is coming from the guy that was like right away. I thought something's fishy with Scott. Something's not checking out. They go and start tapering tape recording his phone cop conversations through a little device that they got radio shack, and I think it's working. They're getting a lot of calls. He's stating some weird stuff. We're getting some information out of Scott. Maybe this is going to be the smoking gun that we need, and then they're get. Railed by the media to kill hope. We now need to be in front of this. So they actually decide to hold a press conference at believe, well, and you can hear on those tapes and I'm not going to have claimed to listen to all twenty nine hours of those tapes. You can find a good amount of online. I've even read somewhere that you could find all of it. But one thing I did notice in some of those interactions between amber and Scott, you can hear she's questioning him of well. So what happened? Where are they? Right? You know? And like you said, this might have been their best opportunity to get a confession from Scott Peterson or the tips and clues that they needed to at least find them. Yeah. And I think feel so brings up the fact that now the play devil's advocate, the only hung out a handful of times, but. That doesn't make the fair less, you know wrong, but they, they did only hang out a few times, but they had a lot of phone calls long. 'cause sometimes an hour long sometimes longer than an hour and they actually discuss kids and Scott stated multiple times. I just don't want kids. Yeah, you have a kid and that's cool. She seems fine, but you know, I wouldn't want to have any more on January twenty. Third, this is when Lacey Peterson's family says, Scott Peterson told authorities. He had been involved with another woman and on January twenty. Fourth, amber revealed herself at a press conference and confessed Scott Peterson had told her he was single Lacey's family turned on Scott, and so too did the small army of volunteers who had been looking for lacy will right. And the. He claims that he actually followed another missing mother with a child case, and one of the things that he claims his, he never. He didn't wanna bring this up because he stated that in this other case that once that they found out that the husband had a fair, they stopped looking for the missing woman and then they just assume that she was murdered and that will. That's what Scott Peterson said he was a freight of is that once this came out in the media that this would get people to stop searching for and his right on some level because this about around this time, the search teams in the the volunteer headquarters that they had put up kinda disbanded right well, and a big part of that though, too, is those volunteers they're not interested in looking anymore. They think they, we know who did this. This, it's a matter of Peterson telling us what happened and where is lacy, where are they? And late January two thousand and three Scott Peterson's. Good Morning America. Interview at Diane Sawyer went so terribly bad. Did it calcified the public hatred against him. I mean, this is the most aid man in the world. Yeah. Yeah. The very least America for one thing. He lied to Sawyer when he said that he had told police about the affair as you've pointed out and stating that he did that the day lacy went missing. He had stated that his marriage was fine. When obviously, we now know that he's having an affair. He tells Sawyer, there's was fine for him that Lacey knew about his affair with amber and she was quote, okay, with it, quote, a statement that just about through ANSI grace into a fit. I wanna point out something here. Nancy Grace's actually. Awesome to listen to when she's talking about Scott Peterson. Well, no, I wanna point out some of his words and actions again that I find to be difficult to sit through and difficult to agree with this. Think about this just for a second using his words. As you stated, we'll point out a million times at this guy's a liar. We now know obviously that a lot of these statements are not true, but let's say that we're in the, let's say, we're in the heat of the moment. We're going to give him the benefit of the doubt and we're gonna listen to his words, and we're going to take that into account and come up with the conclusion. Okay. His statement is that. I told police about the affair immediately. My wife knew about the affair and she was quote unquote, okay with it. He also tells Diane Sawyer that he was not in love with amber Frye and that he deaths had nothing to do with the disappearance of his wife soon to be mother and was desperately looking for. If all of those things were true. If all of those things were true. Why at any point didn't you say to amber Frye I cannot spend time with you. I cannot talk to you on the phone or or at the very least I can't spend time with you and I can talk to you on the phone, but by the way, my wife is missing, she's missing. He does state that she's missing at some point. Once they once. I mean at some point, amber does confront him and say, hey, I know you're lying. I don't know. I know that. But what I'm talking about is on December twenty. Fourth, December twenty. Fifth to summer twenty six, twenty seven, so on and so forth. He had multiple days before she started working with the police, right? And he claims all of this stuff to be true factual. In his opinion, I told the police about the fair, the affair. My wife was fine with the affair. I had nothing to do with the disappearance of lacy. I did not love the woman. I'm having an affair with, but I love my wife and I desperately wanna find. Her if all those things were true, any man any woman with their spouse missing would have said to the other individual before she had to find out by seeing his picture in a newspaper. But what you're saying makes a ton of sense in the reason why is because it's going to be harder for you to come out and tell your wife, hey, I'm having a fair. It's going to be hard for you to come out and tell the cops, hey, my wife's missing, but shit. By the way, I'm a piece of shit dude, and I'm having a fair, right? That's that's difficult. What's not that difficult is telling the person that you had a fair with, hey, my wife's missing. I told the cops about you. I told my wife about you. So I think your point is very valid. I think that's that's something I've thought of blowing my mind what people found most damning about the interview was Scott referred to his missing wife in the past tense, saying Lacey was amazing. Support for this podcast comes from park row books, publisher of under my skin by New York Times, bestselling author, Lisa under under my skin is addictive psychological thriller about a woman on the hunt for her husband's killer. 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Purple Pants Podcast | Quarantine and Chill

"This braces on Debbie I just want to come over here and let you know to make sure y'all is washing your hands okay. The news anchor guys. Say to wash hands so I just wanted to give your load trick You know they should single about twenty seconds. You know single song twice so what I likes to do. When I'm washing my hands. You know my nephew. Bryce got a song called Freak so when I wash my hands. I seen the song free singer with me. You Freak here. Y'All washing hands. You will free of freak less gift freaky all we you will free a free. Don't have to be knee Arctic. You say it again and you should be good. Make sure you get under your nail beds because a lot of y'all got dirty nails. I'll be seeing war charges of braces on Debbie. A you are now listening to the Purple Pants. Arcus the purple purple band cash cash public might be stomach her who is trying to why their backs. Wa Cash. You met Hervey right though pants. Well hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode of the Purple Pants podcast. I'm your host. Bryce Isaiah and I am so happy to be back with you guys. I hope everyone is staying saying I know I know. I know it's a lot going on but don't worry your baby boy got. You is been not so busy week for me. This weekend baby boy had to lay low. Okay I had to quarantine and chill cause I ain't trying to get no Rona okay. And although with the laughing matter you know hear me I likes to play allow but it is something that we need to take serious a baby boy head too late. It's low and I was quarantined in chilling. I'm not sure what Charles was doing but I hope everyone was well because there's a lot going on this subject. A lot of spooky things we in some uncharted territory and we need to stay safe on purple pants posse to be safe but nevertheless I got to come through jobs. As cancelling they cancelled schools. People got to work from home. One thing is for certain things it's to shore the Purple Pants. Podcast AIn't stopping so I got you covered to your cord saying so this week. We got a lot to make you 'cause I figured let me make a GM packs the y'all okay. You're a lot of free time on your hands or you know your baby boy is going to get you through it so this week. We got the church announcements and on the menu this week. We've got survivor news. We've got love. After lockup we've got ninety day fiance before the ninety days. We've got social distancing. We've got the Purple Pants. Premonitions we've got the purple pants. Picks we got advice with Bryce and figure with everything going on. I just call bar but we got a barbs message this week and we got the freak of the week. Okay now before we get started you know. I like to wet the whistle. So let me wet the whistle real quick. Oh no what. I'm wearing the whistle with this week. I'm in the whistle. Went in emergency. Okay that's my cocktail other week. I'm trying to keep my immune system. Healthy took my multivitamin the Dang so baby. Boy Ain't taking no chances. So we got to be safe to whistle again on. So let's jump right in to church announcements this week so I just wanted to announce that you know Wendell and I we've been doing these watch parties for winners winners at war. You know I'm so excited to route my friend on but we are going to have to discontinue our watch parties until is safe again as much as I love to come out and cheer and scream and act which all we have to play fate so we are going to be postponing our watch parties until further notice. We think that the safety of others comes more important than our love for survivor into being together with all you guys so our watch. Parties are going to be postponed until further notice. We want everyone to be safe. Second one is searching Esperance. I just had to tell your low. Nato okay so you're going crazy with this toilet paper and Napkins and y'all isn't going to the store buying them up. Okay let me just say this I understand. You know we as the uncharted territory. The y'all WanNa going get ten twenty rows but I think it's important for us to remember that we have elderly people out there. We've got some disabled people out there. That cannot run to the grocery store and to the corner stores as fast as we can and we are out there buying up all its paper you know. Think about your grandmom. Think about your older uncle. Think about you know that and so you know I didn't have to go buy toilet paper because I'm mostly at work more than I am at home but you know with my job sending everyone home and you know us having to work from home my part time job. I'm not on the schedule for a week. And a half to the corona virus. So I am home I'm pretty much stocked up so the other day when I was getting home there's I I wouldn't call her elderly but there is a lady across the street. I won't say her name. Because you know Chaki below privacy but you had seen her walking back from the store and you know what I mean when I see my neighbors. Hey how you doing just getting on my car and I was talking to her and she was saying how she came from the grocery store around the corner from her house and she was like you know they didn't have and he's the paper and she didn't have any toilet paper so I said wait. Hold on a minute Iran in my house and I. I don't have that many of the papers but I gave her five toilet papers. Just because I feel like we're community and you that's just me. I don't have something that somebody else. If I have something someone else does a heavy. I am just type of that listened here. I want everyone to be able to provide so I was able to just helped my neighbor out across the street and she was more than exciting though here too. Low Shady partially. She went into. Give me a hug but I listen. I had put my elbow. Say Look at Kobo. We elbow bump but we gotta be safe out here but I just wanted to tell their story to just say that we got to look out for each other. I know is a scary time where we want to make sure that we everyone else has it but just remember there. Are People out there that live alone? That don't have the access to things that we have. And so if this may be can inspire you guys to just you know to just do something nice for someone else that you see somebody or you know somebody in your neighborhood you gotta I maybe check on. Maybe you can drop something off to them. Just be a blessing to them. Because you know at one point in time we all going to go. We're all going to be not to be able to be our physical fitness that we are today and so when things like this happens if it's scary for US imagine how scary has to be for them. So just think other than yourselves during this time if you possibly can because. I had so sure that it will come back to us in last on my you know church announcements. I wanted to say that you know you. I live a very busy life. I have multiple jobs. I have a pretty active social life. I've got a lot of friends. And you know I'm always ripping and running and I'm always you know you know crunches Honda make sure I have time for this podcast and just doing all of the things that you know life is life is a busy life. We live in a very busy society. However with this quarantine chill going on I just want to encourage my purple pants policy and everyone to slow a damn. You know we got this extra time. How many times have I told the WHO am? I could just get a day off if I could just get a you. Know a second to breathe. Now I always try to think of the silver linings with people you know self quarantining and us you know being in the house more often just breathe a sigh of relief. Just take a second. You know. We always ripping running. And just you know. Do something this you wanted to do in the house spring clean. Get that house together. You might have got a book for Christmas Re Dead Book but I just want to encourage everyone that end this kind of sort of time of chaos breathe. We're going to get through it and take some time spent with family. You know be with each other. Be Present in this time. Now that we're going to be stuck with each other for a while so I just want to encourage everybody to just slow it down. Oh well all right now. Let's get this guy and we are back with this week survivor. News with our resident reporter Jack Actions reporting from the University of Chicago. How are You Jack? Ellis going on Bryce. I'm doing well but I got a call the other day from the survivor news station but they said I had to start working from home as a little station right now. Spend you homeless will give us the report like what's going on before we get into the survivor news like what's going on at the University of Chicago. I mean so basically. We have finals week right now. But a lot of my files that you'd have been cancelled or are there optional. Or in their they're all going to be online and I have a couple papers as well but the next week I have spring break Planning the head down to Tempe and then get on his my mom's and ct if all the flights go well but then the entire rest of our school year's going online. Wow so I'm planning to come back to Chicago and kick it with my friends and do the online classes. It's pretty pretty crazy stuff right now. Everything's kind of closing down around me. So what does that mean for like kids? That don't have anywhere to go like if it's just online. Can they stay on campus or is the campus closed? Yes so they're providing like dorm housing for kids. Who need it like kids who are international and stuff but a lot of kids are just going home for the rest of the year so especially for the Seniors Friends? A lot of seniors. I live with some seniors. I feel bad because their whole sp senior spring you know. It's it's gone to the wayside because all this but definitely definitely worse situations to be in right now so I gotta count your blessings a little bit for sure and it's definitely important to pract be practicing social distance. Baby boy even know you was out drinking But you know. I think that it's something that we should take serious enough. That like you know giving your space kind of limiting your interactions. But I just want to make sure that you were good so definitely jumped right into this week's of avenues which you got. I mean Shit. Let's kick it off right up top. I want to give a shout out to your and I wanNA give a shout out to the pen and family man for pen in his life or just an absolute class act and so is you'll I just really respect. You often. What he's doing and respect honesty forgiving that segment to bring awareness to LS. Because it's definitely a difficult disease to deal with and you know it's definitely devastating thing. Completely agree indefinitely was like definitely heart wrenching. Just they're going through and obviously our players here from the Purple Pants Policy to the Pin Family. And anyone else that is dealing with a a ls of course and then so diving right in bracelet right after that segment We get right into tribe swap and I. I think maybe it's best to kind of break. You down a little bit tribe by tribe and just give some thought so first off. We got to call. Which is Jeremy Denise Sandra Tony and Kim a legends on that job I feel like maybe maybe the most legendary chiming with the with the people with the biggest reputations vice. What are you thinking about that? New Call tribe. I mean definitely. I just think it's interesting. Tony's likes thought on that about the lions and the hyenas on how he considers himself allying and Sandra Lyon. But correct me. If I'm wrong. Jeremy has played the same amount of times that Tony is played. It's true I mean I mean Tony I would say his reputation just comes mostly just from the craziness of his first win hours. Jammies is like Tony such a wild card in so like such a personality that kind of makes him larger than life but definitely. I think Jeremy. You could consider him something. I'm a lion granted. His game play has a little more not straightforward. But like He. He's like a very logical reasonable player. And I think people kind of take that into account and they're thinking about you know who are these big threats out here because if you know how someone kind of likes to play. I think that lessens how how much thought they are both Tony. It's like he's so crazy still so good but yet but but we know he plays crazy so like then we know how he plays. I don't know I just feel like again when I was telling you about like my conversations with Jervis last week. How JERVIS was saying the same thing that he doesn't really like. Put Jeremy by Jeremy's a great player but he doesn't put Jeremy up there as a huge threat in my opinion. I think Jeremy is a huge threat. Like he's calm he's collective he's well thought out he's strategic and challenges. He's great people. Play your life so I don't know I just. In my opinion I feel like I agree. I agree I think. Jeremy's a huge set to win this game. I thought going into the season And it's a fair point to bring up because you know Jeremy Definitely had one of the many most dominant wins in the history of the show. You know he he in second chances. He sweeps the entire jury. Went ten zero zero over two very respectable players and Spencer and Tasha both from your season But I I think Tony's Tony's win was almost so just unique. That may be that paints a different kind of targeted. Because even if you think about you know Jeremy you can see you could almost compare his win a little bit too like a tim in that they both really had a stable grip on the game. Kind of just ran the table but I feel like there's almost a lot of winners that were kind of like that not to say jamming. Kim Aren't threats. I I think they totally are but I think Sandra having twice and then Tony just for being one of the biggest personalities in the history of the game kind of puts them on a different level. But I totally agree that if I'm out there I'm looking at Jeremy as a really big threat probably more than a lot of other players definitely and then we see him this week in the middle seat which I think is a great for her whether or not she chooses to go with Jeremy and Sandra or Jair Tony Sandra or Jeremy and denise however if I'm Kim I probably might take my chances rolling with Sandra and Tony only because I see if our Kim I will try to play Adam Klein game in this that you oh I hope you covered your mouth. I did I did. I hope you don't catch nothing Cam is definitely in a in a very interesting position. Right now And it's a good position for nothing better than being a swing vote on a new on a new swap jive for sure. Because if you roll with Tony and Sandra there huger targets than you and then you'll have a better opportunity to get them out. If you roll with Denise and Jeremy. You're more than likely to be at the bottom quickly so I feel like if she plays the Adam Klein type of game and be honest with Jeremy as they'd like this is the way. I'm quoting boating. But be honest. I think it could pay off and for her like later on but who what. What other tribes? We got just quickly on because I've been seeing that You know there's it's possible that there could be Sirri type situation where Tony goes home. Because Jeremy has no safety without power where he can leave with tribal before the votes. And then Denise Sandra Kim all have some type of idle whether it's limited or a full power idol So I'm just hoping we don't see Tony. Screw all that definitely not. I definitely do not want to see the lion. That is Tony to go home on by moving onto sailor our boy. I'll Wendell and he's got his boys neck and you'll and then the the ladies poverty and Michelle. I know window. Michelle have kicked a little bit. Maybe at the karate Dojo I don't know but you know. What can you give us a little more scoop on that? Bryce with this group you want Jack I mean so we see Michelle window giving out the confessionals of different of a twist. You Know Michelle saying. They dated for a while. She was giving pretty awkward. There was a whole it was kind of a whole mess to be honest with you when I was just saying they had kicked it although I think they. He admitted like online that they had dated. So maybe he was downplaying a little bit. But what's your take on on the whole dynamic right now and it honestly if you're out there with an axe would you be more willing to work with them? Would you be like totally against working with? I guess I could see where window is concerned that like you know obviously in this season of winners at war where relationships come to haunt you like you know if you are seen connected to them then as a reason to take you out inside definitely would see why. He's Aaron with caution however one thing that pissed me off about him I think poverty said it was that he's acting very comfortable like stop acting so comfortable like you know. Get in where you fit in and you know you are very comfortable with Nikki. You'll window but don't forget that they're still Michelle and they're still poverty and there's a chance of another tribe swap so you need to try to like make them feel like you're working with them and not like you're the king of this tribe and I felt like I was very disappointed to see window and that aspect like what is you doing. Baby boy like stop like like so that frustrated me a little bit. I know you have the numbers. And that's great but we don't know would try absopure's are going to be like so. I feel like you need to be getting in and fitting in with people as much as possible keeping your distance with Michelle. Still keeping it cool. I don't feel like he's playing it. Cool Yeah No. I totally agree. Like I think it's good of him to downplay. Because if you come into this new tribes up with Michelle and you're suddenly like all buddy buddy like oh yeah. We dated like we're so excited see each other. I think playing up as awkward could be good but I also agree. You know if he got he got lucky in that he got swapped new with his two seemingly closest allies. And Nick in your but to me there's also that could also pose a huge problem because if you just ride it out with those two they went all the challenges or even just lose one of the girls you go to the merge the other girl that's left is getting these three rider dies like they are so tight that could paint a huge target on you as soon as you get to the marriage because you have such a strong grip absolutely thought. I'm definitely like worried for his position in another tribe slop like. I don't know whether or not the survivor Gaza will be on his favor To like switch and we are getting close to the merge so I don't know if there will be another chops off because we know the next episode is a double elimination. It's down to twelve but you know I agree if you'll nick in Wendell get to the merge and they've you know they haven't really built good connection with poverty and Michelle. Whichever of those two are left you know that could immediately paint a target on their back as the tightest on the game and you not definitely let me some poverty but she needs to keep a q. on the lowest Jamshid taken my broader. I'll play that. Power fell keep acute but definitely I mean when they'll definitely got blessed with the spot I'll see him You know play it not that he was playing horribly but you know just play play the best he can come into the merge potentially Just looking really strong with this boy and another thing that I also have to think that I think is funny You know season thirty nine Robin Sandra Out. There rob built this amazing shelter and then like you know when we came back to this camp and that rob was at the shelter was horrible. So I'm like confused. Rob What did you do like what happy I think I'VE GOT REAL TIRED. Thirty nine But yeah so moving onto the next Let me ask you this. If say goes the tribal? Who Do you think goes home? I I don't know I I would assume it's going to either be poverty or Michelle. I'm hoping that maybe window will maybe work with five and then I worked with Michelle and then maybe they'll get poverty is what I'm thinking is the most logical thing to do however I don't know like hopefully they don't lose and so that we don't even have to consider lose any of these five to be honest with right but you just never know how the challenge will go and so it just kind of. It's IT'S NERVE. Wracking especially with the double elimination next week is going to tribes going. So but then we're moving on the Yarra who lost the challenge but they have Boston. Rob Ben Adams Sarah and Sophie. What were your thoughts on this tribe right right at the start. I was nervous because I'm thinking like Oh shoot another my coggin people Sarah and obviously on this islands. I felt like obviously rob is the biggest threat however Sarah is another huge threat I I love me some Sarah. I love From carjon from her winning her season Sarah is definitely one that does not give up. And it's definitely a fighter. I was nervous that they were gonNA put a target on her back which they obviously did But I'm just like I in my opinion I'm like I don't understand like we should be denise but I guess they're not worrying about those players like the needs because they are going to let them slide but again I feel like in the season this is. Everybody has a reason to go. Irritations clarified. Denise are you talking about Sophie South Alabama Bama Tyson? I said so. Okay then I take it back because I I forgot so right. And so and here's the actor. Sophie found that idol. I'm like Sophie going to win win win that war. She and my opinion is one of the best games out here and I just love it because she's an older school seasoned winner however she is definitely diving in on us to this era of season however still being very low key and very logical. She's like the female you'll exactly exactly and I think that's slide a little more under the radar because you know it's it's almost like her social and physical skills are like the massively evident but our social game has been really good. I think But just 'cause she's like a little unlike the court gear side people might not expect that to be the case And then obviously her strategic game is really really saw right now. She's almost doing. She's like kind of a combination of you'll right now being very Numerical and Strategic and then also combining a little bit Jeremy's strategy with the with the shields in having those like nerd shields in front of her and stuff definitely so we see them lose and they will go back to camp and it was just like you know Robin Johnstone right by right and it just reminded me of Garrett from icees after they lost and like he was like no no. No He's GonNa Talk was interesting to me is like no one wanted to stand up to Boston Rob. Because if that was me I'd be like Eggo. Ben Come highly at your girl like but they all respected and I guess they just figured I if I worst there or sophie I will be shaking in my underwear because like oh my God like I can't go off of a wink. I would have had to pull somebody aside and really been scrambling but just goes to show you that sometimes and survivor being patient and like trusting your gut instincts really can go far but I bet leaving made the right move by getting Robert out so this has been kinda confused on a few different levels. Bryce 'cause to me it's like we didn't really see the moment where Sophie and Sarah were convinced. And maybe that's intentional. So that it's like Ryan a blindside to the viewers but for me. I was at home saying like Sarah. Gatti's this vote steel right now. How do you not use the votes deal? Because I know she's used it right before but I think she may be. One of the only people survivor has treated properly used the votes deal. Because for why it's so situational into it's generally hard to know exactly what all the votes are. GonNa lie that you'RE GONNA use it properly and like this is a clear instance to me where you use it. You guarantee yourself and your allies Sophie Safety and then you don't have to worry about so I mean ultimately good move by her because I guess there was some interaction where they were confirmed that they were GonNa Vote Boston. Robin I was a little bit shocked. And then I've also heard Theories Wall Boston rob doing the confessional about the buddy system. That's when the for them came to the agreement that Boston rupture go right and that probably was a and I'm sure I can understand why production would not want to show that just making such a way to get out so I'd F- definitely was happy. I've been screaming this whole season. A Much respect and Love Number Austin Rob. But he's gotTa go when I don't understand why we are. You know so. Hell bent on who he would his. You know name brings to No let's get him out and so now it's like yes but now it's just worrying some to me because with Boston robbing out. I feel like other huge names are going to follow suit like you know. I mean I just. It worries me that I could see some moves being made right before the merge no doubt what do you think you are a does if they go to another tribal because now there's or them so I mean I would be nervous and obviously I feel like if they do go I the smart thing to do would be with Sarah and Sophie. That one of them. Just say like hey concede and say to the boys like digital and then A unanimous vote out in this air uses steal a car or Sophie user idle and then they get them out in my opinion. I feel like Adam as the next person that needs to go out because I'm Sarah and I don't want to God coulda disagree. I think Sarah and Sophian are really great position here. I would be shocked if one of them goes next week. But I I feel like they're gonna Ben. Honestly I don't know I feel like Ben is more of the easier flip flapper and Ben and Adam had his issues and you know band how Benfield Adam flip-flopping so I feel like he would be a more easier person to get to go but I definitely gonNA. I will say to me from what we saw in the episode. It seems like Sophie and Adam are kind of forming a bit of a bond and so if I'm Sophie and Sarah I kind of think about like who am. I going to be at work within the long run and to me. It just seems like they're going to be more comfortable in the fact that they can build a relationship with Adam than with like ban like if I'm sophie. There's no way I'm like. Yeah Ben could has the potentially like one of my top allies and see. I don't know I actually think about it differently with Ben. I know that he's Kooky and crazy M. I. Opinion I trust that more than I trust the Adam Klein and and maybe the and again maybe. That's why was voted third. I Dunno arguments for both definitely would be more inclined with a Aben because we we. I guess us as viewers have seen Adamus playing and he's playing sneaky D. and I don't got time not win. This quarantine chew landed. I mean so granted. I don't think I have really seen that. But maybe Ben Adam start throwing each other for the bus in and Ben was may be able to argue that so right. So that's that's obviously you're saying you will go with Adam. Obviously I'm saying that I will go with a ben but I think it goes to show you that Sarah and Sophie just getting on the Together. How united they are. Obviously we feel like it will be the boys coming to them and not the boys trying to pitch one of them against each other they do. They have an idol. Ns still of old or so feel like they're just integrate situation. And I just thought this season is definitely you know charring up. You know I think with Boston rob going home. I think the other went I think. The other guy preheated. I don't know how it's beeping now. It's pizza And so you know I like that. Wrap up the tribes and then just one thing. I kind of want to cover a little bit before we wrap this all up. So we see this challenge In this episode. It's another kind of like obstacle course type thing with a puzzle. At the end you know that puzzle with the four different colored blocks. We actually did that in South Africa But just the General Challenge Structure. The season seems to be a lot of you know agility obstacle course with a puzzle at the end. What are your thoughts on that? You know that general challenge structure. I mean I like it because I feel like definitely when you're still tribes it gives I feel like it just levels the playing field. Some tribes might have more physically fit people That can get through the agility without an issue And then other people may you know. Have some physically challenged people that can't get through the obstacle course as easy so I just feel like a levels the playing field but I am curious to see what type of challenges once we make the merge We'll we'll see and a lot of the time that strategic Knighton statistically the challenges after we make the merge generally heavy on that female winning I turn this stuff right and stuff that a lot of the time that the females tend to win like individually for themselves. I'm curious to see like what the gist will be. And I'm just so curious to see like when everyone comes together like what the dynamic will be and where the votes will go. I'm just curious to know I am worried. That from what I see and we'd have someone coming back from the edge as well which is part. I and I gotta be honest with the challenges. I'm a little. They get a little bit boring to me. Just because I understand the structure but it's just kind of like the same old same old thing whereas after like you know if they wanna like you know they love the revisit Oh challenges they had people like you know so. I don't know I think that complain too but I definitely get what you're saying. I want I need. Where is the one where they're like in the water and Ab fighting and like me? Last season I was my favorite challenge. No no no no no. I'm talking about when they are like one platform. Oh Yeah Yeah No. That's totally agree. I like the physical challenge. I'm not totally caught up on a Australian survivor. Tell you they macho and where you hold you hold something your hand and you know what? I'm talking about like a plate and say they have like a cup stepped on a plea you. That is my favourite. Honestly challenges are different level Americans L. and I've been keeping up with Australia. I don't not to take away from Survivor America by the survivor. Australia All Star Baby. I don't know what it is about the editing. I don't know what it is. I'm a quarantine of chilling with. Listen I will send you. The link baby boy is the army. I definitely feel Australia. Allow a whole lot but that so yeah I. I'm with you with the challenges but well it's still I still think overall season topnotch deal so excited and I'm excited every week I get to talk with you know. Maybe if we fight behind scenes but it's all love well. I guess this is going to wrap you got any last words I mean just something totally. On the opposite vein. You know we saw that the next season's filming getting delayed because of this Pandemic that win your thoughts on that man. Because I know that if I was if I was getting cast I would definitely suck to have that all delayed definitely always they play it safe and two other than that. You know that. That's the name of the game. When I was cast the first survivor I was given four different dates. So the changes. That's the name of the game you gotta go with it But I am coudl production of for playing a safe and wanting to keep everyone during this epidemic So you know exciting exciting exciting but yeah I did. I did hear that. T- that you know. Production was halted on season. Forty one So yeah and so. They're our I don't know 'cause I got T. but I don't WanNa give too much because I don't know if not a year but yes so that it is exciting. Well this will wrap up this week's of avenues with our resident reported Jack Atkins from the University of Chicago. Make sure you stay safe and we will be back next week to report what the tea is to boots next week. Let's let's see what happens so thank you guys. Thanks again for having me so excited. For the season start ramping up the MIC. Or the of is all the way on Let's get let's go all right now. We are going to love not love. But life after lockup now bay we only got one more episode left before the season. Finale end this episode did not disappoint so this episode picks up with our girl. Angela and toning. So you know. And that's been going through a rough time you know. She is in the process of getting married to Tony after you know she forgave. Tony Chino. Hardwood you the prostitutes in a motel. Now they was in a motel but they were not quarantining Chilin. There was being nasty nasty so answer. That has forgiven Tony. She's put him to a series of tests. They are moving forward. They marriage or you know. Move forward getting married so they meet with the wedding. Planner this episode. Because you don't want a wedding one beach now if I it's more of a harbor not really a beach but you know it is what it is. Angela reveals to us that she is paying for everything for the wedding. Because Tony you don't have it. Well what is he doing at the hotel? If you don't have an answer. I feel like Sony. She'd be able to be paying something And so as they are setting up the stage and you know they're meeting with their wedding planning the wedding planners your Bridal Party will be here you know Tony's groomsman will be here and inches like Tony don't have no groomsmen no put a pest man. Oh my best man is going to be Audrey Angeles Hooves Andre. I've never heard trying this. Furthermore you get married to somebody you don't even know who is best man all right but listen. I'm just still trying to get its ex-pat all right as Corrina Ju I texted back but anyway Tony reveals that you know. He was in jail with this guy named Andre was super close with them and being. Tony is far away from his family. He wants someone to be there. Angela instantly is upset about that so they go through. Despite Angela comes to the conclusion. She's like fine. He can be your best man and Tony's like well he's told me a bachelor party and you know Angie Angie flips out. But she's like okay. Fine. You can have your Bachelor Party so fast forward to the Bachelor Party. Is Tony and Andrei. However you know Angie's best friend Tom who was in love with Angie who. I really think Angie should be. She angrily in a Tom. She invites Tom. First of all how she invite Tom to his bachelor party. But she sends Tom Today or to the BACHELORETTE party dot the BACHELORETTE party. Okay the bachelor parts. Hey she sends Tom. That's all awkward. Just the three of them and this little Janke low strip club actually if it looks Kinda Nice. So they're in their tom just like everybody gets the congressional he was like. You know rule. Angie put me here you know to see what's going on with Tony at this party and I'm GonNa do my part so Tony Tells Andrei about. Tom and Tom is a little intimidated by Andre. Andre is like you know so. You're not here for which you will love with. Angela and Tom's like well you know and Tony is like yeah. He proposed to hire an so audrey. So what you're trying to stop the wedding and Tony Tony. Tom Is like well if I could. I Would Bait Andrey he kinda sorted threatened Sony. He's like listen. You Ain't listen. You get crushed if you try to stop this wedding. You'll get crushed before all after the wedding. Okay so then all of a sudden Andre Arranges for Tony to get a private LAP DANCE. So Tony goes into this like weird little booth to get a lap dance a here come time with his phone. Take photos okay. Snitch is get stitches. You better be careful tom around Andre so he takes a video of Tony getting a lap dance. And he sends it to Angie. And y'all know Angie and less than two point three seconds Scott pull up to the Strip club okay. She marches in there. She's like what are you doing? Were you get their stuff? I'm not scowl. I can't believe you're here with these little targets. Strippers girl which I mean like so. I feel like a Bachelor Party. He's so bay Tony get his stuff. He marches on out the Strip club and they are set to get married tomorrow. So we'll see. Angie themes pretty upset so we want my girl. Lacy Shane and John Now. Maj You know lacy is a friend of the show. Hi Lacey Lacey pissing me off. Okay Leithy I love you but wrong. So we know Leitheiser with Shane. Shane told her that right before they got married he cheated on her. He was drunk but he loves her. He wanted to forgive her since then. Lacy has not been on Onum at all and she's really been going to her ex. John Hussein hates. She's seen John at work. Then this episode picks up where they're like practically on a date going out to eat somewhere and Shane is at work until Lacey and John. Really talking and John. Wants Shane out of the House and lacy is sort of like obliging to issues. Like you know you're you're right you know. I don't trust them and though she goes the text her dad and John Boehner who say at least he's like I'm texting my dad's Da and then John really gets upset because he's I feel like you're playing him like you're playing a both of us. Let's get out that house. I'm not doing this which you so then. The next thing we see as that lacey gets dropped off now imagine when we first seen them. It was light out now. John is dropped her off at the house in this dark and basically a sleazy says she has not been intimate with John yet because she wants to break up with Shane before she wants to be intimate with John so she goes into the house. Mit John is outside the house. We pull up to the house. She goes in the House Shane laying down on the couch bed playing. You know some sort of game system and you know Lacey's like you just got home from work and just go home from work busy dying and so lazy goes from Zero. To one hundred all of a sudden lacey's like well you need to stop and you need to check out and Shane like well. Is this coming from because yesterday? I put the the trampoline together with for the kids and go dare we good. I woke up this morning I went to work and now all of a sudden Goldman crazy. And she's like you're you're you're a liar. Get OUT GET OUT. And Shane Army. You really want to do this you really want to do. This Roma's theft. She's like y'all Eliah y'all liar. And then all of a sudden we see lacy phone texting and she kind of like runs out the house shake. Where're you going? Where are you going? Why are you running? Why are you writing? We need to talk so obviously. We know Lacey going out to John so as Shane going outside. Basically chased the lacy like what's going on who here come. John like big daddy's home. Oh wait a minute well. Who WHO BIG DADDY? And then of course you know episode over so we gotta wait till next week to see what happens but who lacy wrong today okay. You need to work out with Shane. Lee. Th-they okay. Play where my? Shaney booth like that. So then we got Clinton Tracy know who they are whole. Hot meth and a half. So we know Clint Tracy. They got arrested. Do they fill meth on tracy so she got locked up? Clinton we got let go. He went back home. He paid five thousand dollars bond for her to get out. They were out for a couple of days. They were together one day he woke up and Tracy took off. She took the car and the dog was gone. Clint was distraught you know. He went to his MOM's House. His mom basically gave him automative. Like we're done with you and trey. If you are going to be with Tracy. We are not supported anymore. So Clint was like I'm done with her. You Status Mom's house and then he got a phone call. Tracy says she was back home. Clint exit offer ride. His mom. Said you won't have to get yourself uber. Because his mom was quarantine in Chillan House so she wasn't doing today so clint goes over there to the house he can't get in. Tracy does not let him at first then she lets him in and Tracy got closer hand. I'll know what she was doing. So Clint it's like what are you doing? I'm Tracy Psych. All you look at me as a drug user. You know you don't look at me like you're white and clint psych. What are you are you need help? You need to get help and trace the essentially is i. I don't want to get help as so it's it's over and then all of a sudden my whole goal you know tracy has her own issues and. I don't know what Clint issues are. Because in my opinion you know listen. I can look at somebody and reason by Clinton has all. I'll know what clint drug of choice is. But he is definitely Li- I dunno so when Tracy basically says go find a new wife. I'm done with you. Clint starts pounding his face. Like br brought brought brought potluck gas. That might do just started pounding his face and he grabbed his phone. He was just to history things. I can't go call your mom. Go Hog Imam now. My Ju I'm thinking about the call. The police they have how getting out. I don't know who he's calling next thing you know a client is his mom. He's like I'm I'm doing do I can't do it. And she's like don't argue with her tone argue with her chest. Leave chess leave. He's like okay. I'm GONNA come there. I'm coming here and so I'm GonNa take the dog Tracy. You took the dog without me knowing so then trace these like go ahead take the dog so I guess Tracy is now packing some things up. And she's packing her things up. She's like where's the photo of the ultrasound and Clinton I don't know I didn't touch it. I didn't throw it in the trash. I didn't own it in the trash. And she's like you probably did. You probably do messed up in the trash and I didn't throw it in the trash. I didn't throw it in the trash. Like you actually threw it in a trash now. Ooh Now I'm like what then all the time we get a confessional of Tracy and Tracy's bike you know that they were pregnant at one point in time and she got a miscarriage as she felt like that was probably one of the worst mistakes her life you know at the time. She didn't feel like they could have financially supported and that the fact that Clint would say that she actually threw it in the trash really upset her. And so the next thing you know we see Tracy and clan and Tracy's crying and clinch like I just really want to press for you and then all of a sudden they laying on a bed and Clinton I just really what the best for you. How CLINT CLINT KNEE? Rehab Clinton Needs Rehab from Tracy. So that's what we laugh all now manager. We know his mom is expected him to come home so I don't know what happened with that sad. Now let me get into the juicy juice of the episode Megan Michael and Sarah. So you are now. Sarah is the baby mom. Who's actually his wife. Who lived in Albany or Rochester? New York Michael came into the kids you know he brought his new girlfriend Maria Maria Marriott. Bass my name is John Cena or allow like that. Okay get to get to what happened today. Get to happen. Bryce Okay Sorry Maria sub. We know that you know last would happen with Mike went over to their house. The girls he spent the night him in stare ahead intercourse. He told the kids he was gonNA come back next tomorrow. For Ice Cream date tomorrow came and went. The kids was looking for him. He didn't come so Sarah said I'm going to pull up to the Hotel Sarah pulls up to the hotel and coincidentally as she is just pulling up to the hotel. Michael and Maria are going out for cigarettes so stay approaches them. Michael Can I talk to you about their kids? And Maria goes crazy. You'll contacts have you excel module sort about to Michael is yelling Maria like sit down get big stop Choo Choo Choo Joe so then in the midst of all of that. The the hotel manager. Now I don't know if I'm making this up because you're literally sitting on the edge of my bed like oh who so. I was screaming. I can't really tell what happened but I think the manager was live. Y'All need to calm the F. Dale because you're disturbing my guess so when the manager said that Mike Mike went crazy. Like don't you talk to them like well. First of all y'all is being allowed and if I was the manager I would have just called the police. Hello hot now one. This is motel six where we leave the light on. I have some light at the lockup people my lobby for you. Oughta come down would have been me so and the managers start getting into it and all of a sudden. I'm calling the COPS now. Here goes Sarah Sarah like my day calling the cops get car. Let's go get him girl. Sarah what in the world which I mean my car and go grow. You don't WanNa go with you so this this Big Whole Commotion Sarah Art and Maria Is. I don't WanNa Watch. You saw all say we. Tv gets a van of ampoules up and Michael and Maria van and Van drives off and Sarah is just standing there now at this point I do. Kinda feel bad for Sarah but I feel like Thera are just in love with Michael. Like you keep trying to make this about the kids. Yes it is about the kids but it's more about your relationship with Mike just own up today. Okay so she's thin air light. Pto's are over the kids. You've got to go back. And so the kids so he come in and they've been looking at the cars. Everyday girl decays ten nine eight seven. Six 'cause I don't WanNa be mean to Sarah. I feel like you already know what it is there. A like you know what it is like you know what it is so then camera Pam Beck to Michael and Maria Maria. If I baby not just talk to you just come down. Come down desperately three and then we see we see Michael. And he's Kinda SORTA got like tears in his eyes and he's just like you know all of this because she wanted to come up here you know and I really just wanted to see what you look like. And that's it then we just feed them. Driving off in next week is season finale. And there's a lot of like hinters in the season finale that I don't even WanNa get into. We just want to have to wait into see next week because ooh trying to tell your life after locked up is popping better watch Friday on we TV so we can get caught up. That's your quarantine and chill homework. Purple Pants Posse some move right along. We onto ninety day fiance before the ninety days. So y'all Purple Pants posse. I have to you know when I'm wrong amid y'all sprite. Ninety Day fiance is good. Now this is this actually. Isn't the show ninety three and I say this is like another show. Just like love after lockup life after lockups. So you know. Tlc is on it so this is basically you know. Ninety fiance is a show that follows couples who have an existing relationship online have had it met in person and we follow the journey to them experiencing Meeting their people and you know falling in love. And then you know. They've got ninety days before they get married. So this show is about these couples but before the ninety days and so they are a couple of couples on this show that I just wanted to touch on so one of the people his name is Ed. Okay he's in a relationship with a twenty eight year old girl named Rosemary and she is from From the Philippines now mind you. This is kind of like special to me because I was on survivor. Oh we filmed in the Philippines. Spend a Lotta time in the Philippines. So it's just interesting but anyway Mike is a fifty four year old man and he met his you know twenty-three-year-old girlfriend Rose Murray on facebook. They've been talking for three months. And you know at is ready to fly to the Philippines to essentially propose to her now a little bit about Ed. He is four eleven okay lows short. That's fine you know. Love comes audit for size but got no neck when y'all listen. I'm not making that. We all watched the show. Or if you watch the chugging on I'm talking about ain't got no neck okay he just got a Chin and then to go right into the shoulder blades so he tells us as he's like flying to Manila to meet roles that like you know he's a little nervous. Because you know a rose is like five two so he told. Rose she's the same sizes him and the bit about roles. She is twenty three. She's got a four year old. She lives in the back of the store with her son and they live with her sister and the kids. She lives in a one room apartment or had no no bathroom. No kitchen broom and you know she pulls out blankets to sleep at night and so she is really looking for. Ed's whisker offer fee. She has her son calling. Ed Daddy Ed because she even said Harkat fashion knows that basically she wants a better life for her son so roses twenty three and it's fifty four against the Manila. He's like a little nervous because he ain't never seen her. And you know before we get to the ad enrolls meet rose like you know. Talks to her sister and her sister is like you know. She's excited because they just look at like he's rich and they're like you know we. I want my sister. I have a better life. Mind you we meet. Roses Dad who also fifty four years old he looks like he drives a Tut Tut and so like in the Philippines is basically like a motorized bike. That has like a compartment on it. So you can like. It's like a taxi but like a bike taxi and listen in Manila Philippines. There is so congested though. Sometimes cars can't even get by so to Tut. Tut can get you in and out and there are plenty of days when I was in survivor. You know when I was on my survivor trip that I was an attack. Okay so yes and another thing that I know about the Philippine cultural or like the Filipino. Women is that they are very aggressive. Just from my own experience I remember. I went out to like there was like me guarantee and cliff. We went out one night and like a Garrett order around shots for the table and me and Alexis went to the bathroom and so when me and Alexis wants to the bathroom when we opened the door like a waiter bumped into the door and like dropped a drink now all of a sudden out of nowhere despite one of the Filipino. Ladies came out but then you buy you buy you buy you buy me and Alexis was like girl. What and so they really were trying to get us back to give them money because the waiter bumped into the door but we like made our way back to the table was like listen. We got all of this food and drinks. You're like we not spending no money. However if I were by myself I would have been scared. Let me give them all this money. But that's because they're very aggressive s just from my opinion so it gets to the airport. He Lo- nervous because rose is a little late. Now Mind you roles. Looks like a twelve year old girl at this. I'm just my listened. That's what she looked like. So and it's like oh my gosh. She's so beautiful. They check into a hotel and rose has never been allegedly. She's never been to a hotel or never been Manila. Never been to the big city however when they're on a cab ride sit a hotel you know eh is trying to get more information on how you so you like to look. How do you think I look look and you know? She's that years. Ed You look very nice So tell me about your past like you know. Have you ever been to a party and you know roses that guy? I've been to a hotel before you know for New Year's Eve. I partied with my friend as WHO's your friend. And she's like well with a couple of guys he's a wherever you guys actually like a hotel. He's like guys drinking yes. There was alcohol. Now Mind you you put together a couple of is and just you at a hotel rose. Chazelle sale like my side. But do here's the Corinthian at Shell. But anyway so ed has suspicions because he has not been able to get like rose his background. I don't know nothing about her like he don't know whether or not if this is like a scam if smell like a scam it look like a scam and you and a hotel with a bunch of guys and you drink and you the only female who so anyway just really awkward. Their interactions are awkward. Like while they're checking into the hotel like the camera crew and is very much like we TV. Everybody gets a confessional. They act her. Like how do you feel about F-? She's just like he talk a lot. I wish he didn't talk because my English is not that good so here. We are like this cultural language and another thing whenever I go travel. I'm you know a well versed traveling queen whenever I go to a different country. I always tried to learn phrases. I always try to pick up on the lingo. Because I don't ever want to be that American that just thinks like wherever I go. I need to speak American English and very much Ed. And which is surprising to me. Like you're in love with this Filipino. Woman Ed and you don't know anything about the culture you haven't even tried to learn COBB coon con. Okay because I know that that means thank you very much cop coup cod cop who can thank you very much. And that's what the man says and cop car is like with the female. Says I know that so here it is. Roses are uncomfortable about her English. And don't make no more easier. He just continues to ask these questions that she can't really answer so it's just awkward. So they go to the hotel and as like mixtures beds. I don't WanNa put any pressure on. Rose I don't want to consummate the relationship yet but you know I you know so. He wants to ban state. They ended up having a king size bed. But it's like one of those beds that like you know you can push their mattresses apart so they like go to sleep at. It's just awkward because everything that he does he announces she's like okay. I'M GOING TO BRUSH MY TEETH. And then we go to sleep boy so but ed does tell us that he does not want to have sex with frozen so she feels comfortable and he wants an S. test from her. Okay I'm all for that makes sense so they wake up the next day they go into town because Ad- like Rosenheck Pajamas. So add had to like by her like Ed gave his t shirts and so he was like you know I just feel really bad. I felt bad taste. I really wouldn't go by her. Mom some clothes and whatever so they get to the market and it's the Philippines. It's like crowded and hot and so ED is taken back by how much of crowded it is their mind. You me I love it. I'm a I'm a people watch. I would be just looking at all the people ask. Ed is like so uncomfortable man. He's got a whole TV crew with them. He's four eleven slipped this like you know five to Filipino. Girl and people are looking at them because they already know what's up and like you know that is that's the culture like a lot of men come to the Philippines four women and they come for children's who don't listen. You think that sex trafficking thing is not real goes to the Philippines when we were in the Philippines seeing so many on comfor- bowl things it anyway so they get a shot at wants to buy her a shirt and they're like it's twenty pound and so ed pulls out his wallet and Bay Bay Rose. Just go in the wallet and say give me your wallet and the aggressive side. She Ain't shy in. She goes in his wildly. Takes the money our gives it to the person and tells guy to keep the change as it just makes me really uncomfortable like it makes them comfortable and so the whole time that they're shopping would have been five minutes. They go like three different stores. And she's taking the money out of his wildly so then after like the third store. Ed is like drenched. 'cause he's a low height and weight challenge and he's like. I just don't come to why I really want to go back to the hotel and roses. Which is guy lack? This is what the Philippines is back so they go back and as confession. He's just like I really want to know whether or not rose really likes me for me or whether or not roles is you know in it for the money in a scam. And then he reveals to us. That rose's sister contacted him last week before he came asking for money. Because the store that rose's sister runs she says it's not making money and it's about the clothes and if he could be a financial help to her at if you don't get out now. I mean if you don't get I'm sure I can't even listen. I'm trying to tell your so. There's another couple. I WANNA talk about Bay Bay. Y'All y'all would not believe it. So if a young lady named lethal and she got the nerve to be from Pennsylvania she from York Pennsylvania which is about an hour to two hours away from Philadelphia and she is in love with this Nigerian man. Name Youth Youth Man but he goes by Solta boy and he is an entertainer. And a I wouldn't say a rapper. But you know he writes songs. He's entertaining so Lisa has been dating youth man online. She's fifty three years old and she's a hospice worker. And you know and Souljah boy is a thirty year old Nigerian man who the entertainer in a musician they met through social media. And you know that's how they met and so you know she is all how way to Nigeria to get Mary because she wants to bring Souljah boy back to the states were her because she wants. Some young chocolate sends a row me. Oh Kay lethal try and get her grew BEC. Okay now Lisa. Is You know she? You know she can have fifties you know she low heavyset. Looks like she looks like looks like she could be friends with Angie Guy. She smoked cigarettes. So let's talk about social boys. Souljah boy lives in a village in area. He lives with two roommates. They live in a one bedroom house. with no running water just one bedroom. They all share the bedroom. He's got and they get a bucket of water and that's how they wash and so but you know what I love about soldier boy is. Is that like I love this personality? He seems fine and he basically tells his friends that like you know although Lisa is not you know the girls to. He's normally attracted to. He's willing to make a work now. My Shoe he tells the producers because the producers asked him because my producers day shading the producers asked him like are you attracted to Lisa? How do you know you can make it work? And so Souljah boy is like you know. She's not what I am used to but I am fully committed. Imagine all this is the whole thing he calls may so he's like you know she's not. I'm used to but she has the lady parts so I'll be able to work with you. What I what? What what what is she? Got The lady parts. Ten Ninety the text me back during his quarantine chill but youth men is willing to make it work when Lisa because she just got the lady parts. I mean to but Lisa is extremely jealous. So you know you spin the entertainer. He's got social media. He's got instagram post videos new songs and so if any female rights on his pays like Oh my God. I love the song I loved you. Soldier Boy Lisa was sliding. Mdm's Talk Abou be message in my man. 'cause we don't play boy? So Lisa. Take the eighteen hour trip to Nigeria. Arrives the Nigeria and Yousef and his two roommates. Pick them up. And it's like what is going on. You're like why is his roommates here and so they're in the backseat of the car. When they see Lisa who let me drink auto? Let me what Wesley. Y'All on when they see Leeson you didn't have to watch. What how they look. They just by Wu so Lisa and or baby and Soja bore in the backseat of the car and they are kissing in the room. Mates are like why do they have to kiss so much? Normal Person Kisses Times. They twenty so they get to the hotel where Lisa is staying and they they get into the room and the like okay so you come up with us and so. I'm going to stay with LISA. And they like are you sure they are like concern for social boy so Soja boy and Lisa. They're going to the room. They're like you know talking and basically day in a row for like three minutes and Lisa is like okay to the cameras. Y'All y'all y'all gotta go so the next morning they wake up and you know they're like so did you have a good time of leases soldier. Boys that he is if my expectations. If what I like is a one hundred percent leased it was definitely seventy percent and I'm can work with seventy percent. Another thing that I think is like a little tasteless on Lisa's part. Is they say that they had sex and basically Lisa reveals that they have sex without a condom girl into. How are you doing? Okay without a condom Chad. Yeah Okay if you think. The Corona virus is easy contract if a lot of other. Std's as you could get girl so they you know they meet up with Yusuf's room. I don't even know why they continue to meet up with use of roommate they meet up with boys remain for breakfast and lease is not happy with the culture that type of breakfast that they had being and the roommates are like well every soldier. Boy You should get used to the customs of what we are eating and so they start talking about his marriage because you know lethal wants to marry soldier boy while they're here and wanted to well. I'm going to be honest which leads to I. Don't know Souljah boy's mom is like you because you're white and you know in our society. They don't really liked their sons of white women like. Oh my God. I can't believe that people still at this. Us grow people still think like that. Okay so she says the soldier boy. Well we're getting married with or without your mother's blessing and so the roommates get a confessional and they're saying in Nigeria. Our culture are like people respect their parents a and if the parents they noticed something then it's not going to happen and so you know soldier boy. She's like we're going to get married if your mom doesn't like it right and so two boys that we have to cross that bridge when we get there. At least it's like what so she gets from disable and starts walking away. She started how how blood processed are getting up. Okay how blood getting up. And they're like are you okay. She's just like I thought I was going to marry him. And now is the possibility might not be married. I just don't know I just don't know I've tried to tell your ninety day. Theon say I was sleeping on it. I Apologize Pro Pants posse because the ninety the ninety days before the ninety days even more poppy and so there are about four other couples that I would love to talk about. But I'm just trying to wet. Shell whistled to this so make sure. Y'All get in to the ninety days before the ninety day fiance because it's delicious all right next on menu. I have social distancing so I wanted to talk about it because I wanted to be honest about like my personal take on it and You know how things have developed with this corona virus and everything going on Because last week I was aware of it and you know I I still was going out. I'm like I'll go out to the ball doing what I've got to do but the more research that I have done and the more I see when I look at Italy and I see everything that's going on with Italy. I definitely think that we need to take it serious And I just think I just wanted to put it on the I talked about in the church. Nelson's but I just wanted to go down a little more deeper into you know social distancing and I think that it's important over the weekend. I was like watching my story. And I'm saying a lot of my friends going out to these parties and I was even tempted to go out to a party but with them. No corn teaming people with like the Mount of schools in the Philadelphia area and nationwide have been closing down all of the jobs that have been closing down Obviously it's something so serious and so I was like watching the story of this lady. Who Within Italy? Whose CORENTIN and how? They're saying that like you know their first couple cases were around February twenty first and then with it with the virus being so contagious you know from the droplets from our spirit. Uh US alive with such phase and just how quickly and that you know most people that have pretty strong immune systems like you know. We'll be able to get over it but the people that are the elderly people over sixty five people that are have compromised immune systems like they might not be able to recover from it and people can be symptomatic. People can not have symptoms of the end still tests positive and I definitely think until we are able to get it under control. I think that it would be who us as a society to really try to like social distancing as possible if they are shutting down the liquor stores if they are you know I believe just in like New Jersey New York and another state. They like banned gatherings of larger than fifty people. Because it's so easy to pass and I'm just trying to just pass onto my purple pants posse how important it is for us. I think to take it serious If you have to go to work you gotta go to work but you know the other outside things that we don't have to do like going to the bars all into the movies different things. I definitely think we should take a step back and really just try to like quarantine ourselves and I know it's going to be hard but listen to get the game out. Okay get their book that you didn't get you better net flicks and shit like you just like what. I'm saying in the slowing down and I've really been isolated myself since Friday. Having gone out I ha- I've only run errands and have had sue and I've really been trying to take heed to it because I really think that you have to lead by example and I have to practice what I preach. Is this situation scary? Yes does it scare me? No because I know that we will get through it however is scares me for the people the vulnerable population. You don't me my social worker kicks in. I think about the children I think about the elderly people I think about the sick people like those are the people that it's really going to effect. We don't as a society take a step back until we're able to get it under control and I know that rob did a podcast with Dr Mike and I forget the other people but it was really really informative. They were able to answer that question. If you guys have not checked that out check that out. But I just wanted to social distancing out there because it's like again like a week ago I was like please talking at the club but fast forward a week and we see the seriousness of it. And I'm like you know what? Let me take a step back because if we don't follow like or take some type of precautions like this could be something even more like. I don't even have time to think about that because my glasses always have full but I do think it's important to take precautions. Wash your hands get hand sanitizer. Don't Hall Toilet Paper You know. Make sure that you guys have the essentials in your house. I go shopping because I've got a freezer full of food that I never eat because I'm always eating out and I'm like you know what job I'm a US. This self quarantine social distance to boost up my my working out and my dieting and getting myself on track and really like self-care reflect. I got all of these masks facial mask for Christmas baby. I'm doing a mask day. I'm self care and I'm I'm preserving myself preserver. Mysexy so I just want to just spread a little love and just like you know. Take a serious like you know. If you see other people out there your family and friends still going out there. Just shoot 'em attacks like listen guys you know. We need to take a serious. I just wanted to put that on the Purple Pants Menu. Because I'm GonNa just spread some awareness. Purple Pants Posse. Now that's keep the menu move in with our purple pants premonition. And just like that. We are back with another purple pants. Permissions I'm so excited to have my friend. My mentor gangster. Gary back on the PODCAST. What's going on nothing boo? How are you happy happy day? I am excited I. Am You know spiritually ready to fed this good old premonition to these rocky cards all all that you do? I'm so excited you know we we. We need it. Listen as was about to say there's so much going on in the world. There's so much happening there like there's people dying like for real for real and it's crazy because we are having to find our center. Fine our peace in the middle of everything going on and I feel like every day just like well. What do I have in my tool belt in my toolbox and make sure that I'm feeling good to go? You know feeling nice and ground is that we can take on another day because there's so much happening definitely definitely with corona virus with Foreign Ministry Shan with these travel bans with these bills. Make this a lot to take in a very much is and it's just like right now. I feel like everybody is being called to really slowdown in process. Like what's the most important thing for you? Moving for like everybody is being told. Sit out take a moment process and I don't think that there's a like I feel like in certain aspects. People are just trying to run against the machine essentially and trying to do way too much when the universe is literally saying process. Everything that's going on around you right now figure out. Where does your peace come from? Where does your Your peace of mind. How do you bring peace of mind your everyday and then what are the things that are taking out of feeling that peace of mind regularly and how can you kind of like take a step back and reassess right now so? I'm looking forward into this week. I was about to say this week is very much like about figuring out who in our lives. What in our lives are really at the standard? That is for us right now like I wanted. I want you think about this. Have you been in situations recently? Where like You know people are talking about all the things going and then you just feel like this. Dampening and your spirit. Have you been feeling that a lot lately? Definitely you know you. Just don't know what the thing is the world. I'm like you know it's a lot going on and I feel like there's a way to be realistic about all these things that are going on. And there's a way for us to also speak life into each other and I think that that's something that needs to be kind of like the cornerstone of all of our conversations all of our beliefs. All of our friendships. I know that there are a lot of people that are starting to recognize people who are very glass half empty glass half full. Wish type of person are you. And what type of energy do you want to carry out throughout the rest of this month? So I'm going to be looking through the rest of the month of March we are currently. I would say almost out of Pisces in so shout out to all my pisces out. Their tic- season has been right. Not this sound child but has been all about getting deeper into what? Our intuition is telling us what feels appropriate. What does not feel appropriate? Who are weird our core. And what are the last things as far as our beliefs as far as like the way that we carry ourselves that we're letting go of this is a very heavy time of processing and letting go everything. That is not in alignment with our. You know our next bag. Our next opportunity. Our next state of growth area season is going to be coming up at the very end of March. I WANNA say rally march nineteenth if I'm not mistaken and airy seasons all about that Fire Baby. So is all about taking action. Doing things like being excited making things happen and especially with all this stuff. That's happening right now. You know on a global level people are going to start taking action. People are going to start doing things cutting out energy that is not relevant to their next story there next lifetime so. I want you to think about who has been. I want to say like who has been having great intention but not having a lot of follow through when it comes to newness in your life whether it's you whether it's people around you like have you been thinking about. I want to leave this job. I WANNA leave this relationship. I want to leave the situation because I know that there's better but there may be things that are holding you back. What are those things that are holding you? Back is the main question that I want you to think about going into the next couple of weeks so I know that we all have situations that we are always trying to manifest more trying to focus on this straight path in narrow The night I was going to say in this. Deck specifically is called On Niger cane so this deck is the Tarot is a kickstarter that I got. It is relevant to all of the traditional African religions traditional like DVD's traditional spirituality and talks about arrogant egoism jealousy and unused creativity and a lot of people's lives. Right now so I don't know if you've been noticing that you have this desire to start some new stuff like you feel like you're at the I don't know for you personally Bryce have you been feeling this desire to really get out there? Really start trying new things feeling a little like okay like this lifestyle that I'm in right now. I'm not liking it. You speak. It's in my heart. Yes absolutely one hundred percent. I think that what is everybody is being asked right now to do is figure out what is the next step. So airy season is the beginning of like the Zodiac New Year. I can't remember this specific name for it but it's just like the Zodiac starts again. Aries is the first sign in his ODI so everybody is coming to a close to make decisions on what's next and sometimes it takes a little bit of spontaneity the difference between spontaneity and impulsiveness. I feel like spontaneity. Is You knowing okay? I have this going on. I have these tools. I have this money in the bank and I have this amount of time so I knew I can make something shake. Impulsiveness is like not thinking through those decisions and not thinking through those step so you need to make sure that you are processing your conversations you know you can look before you leap essentially and then sometimes you know that people that are unreliable people that are not holding. They're holding their promises. Right now are being asked to be moved out of your life. It says this calls for significant changes. This heading your way. Perhaps in the form of traveling or moving house but it may come. Suddenly it says unpredictability in partner can be suggested by the arrival of this card in a spread as well so this suggests spontaneity and a change of scenery. I know that there's so many people that are sitting around right now thinking what am I doing? Where am I going like? And you're not the only person but I want you to recognize that the only way that that can be Shifted the only way that that can be recognizing actualize is by going outside of yourself finding like minded people. Everybody is in a space right now as a collective where we do not know what is going on but it is our job to speak up and connect with others and connect with like minded soul. So that way we can be able to move forward as a collective I feel like this is where everybody is being brought back to this place of love and understanding that. Like if I see the love and you you see the love me we can move forward and we can make some stuff shaped but there are always going to be forces that are around us they keep us from that guy is in that mentality of love so I feel like you need to ask yourself throughout. The next couple of weeks is this. Is this the space that I see myself being in when it comes to? Somebody appreciating me. What I bring to the table and vice versa. Is this conversation. Balance is this energy balanced. Does this make me happy? Does this bring me joy? And am I allowed to bring joy to other people? I know that super heavy but these are things that we we should be thinking about. And sometimes we struggled to give ourselves Thomas Base to do that. Thomas Space Okay. Listen I was about to say I know that it is. We have so many things going on. I know you busy. I'm busy child. Things are moving but we also have to recognize that if we don't sit down to process these things we do not know where we are going next and that is our job is we are growing up is we. Are you know a sending our careers building and growing our families? We have to know the direction that we are taking another so that we we have a goal. What is your legacy? What are you leaving? And it's all about getting cited for what's to come and not being scared of being faithful not fearful right right so Next I want to talk about the moon phases. That are going to be coming up so we have. The waxing moon is talking about. The energy is gaining momentum. So I don't know. Have you been sitting on a project? Having been sitting on something happens you you just maybe couple of a couple of things when three. This is very much like you. Knowing that things are going to be coming forward you just have to give it some time to allow this process to happen. And this is represented in the waxing moon So a little bit more information on Ms Waxing Moon. She says the situation full potential. Your dream can come true. More effort is yet required. Are you willing to give it review your goals and ensure you're still committed and keep moving forward so I've been talking a lot about this? Recently in regards to we all have plans. We have ideas and sometimes in our house like if you think about some of the things that may be in your house some of the things that may be in your environment like are they representations of where you're going next are they representations of where you thought you were going and I need you to take some time to like clean up house. Think about what it is that you actually do want to do. And make sure that you have stuff around you. That represents that a lot of times we get so caught up in where other people have directed us to go where other people have told us that we thought we were supposed to go and we have physical representations of that in our homes like you know sometimes you have like those old picture is of the locations that you know that you used to want to go to or maybe like all relationships you know you got your old fling like a picture sitting up in the house and it's just like no. These things are not necessary for you to have. Because they're representing old energy. That's not necessarily serving you Go ahead about energy. That's like you know I know a lot of people will look to other people and Blah off. That's why I want to be and I'm not where I like. The energy is like not good at all as well as a focus or yourself and not what others are doing like you can use others inspiration but not using others. Why do they have? I don't why are they there and I'm not like you know. Sometimes I get caught up in it and I need them really just center in quarantine myself and be like you know you have to focus on what is in front of you and what they can do to manifest something amen. I call that imposter syndrome. Because it's like you are in a state of feeling like you are. You should be further along right because you're seeing somebody else's journey somebody else's level of awareness. What they're going through. And you truly don't always know what it took to get to that place in your journey a sacred your journey as you know your unique. That's why you are here on this planet to continue figuring out what it is as far as your own personal journey is concerned and I think a lot of people Even myself included have gotten caught up in seeing other people's growth. And you know wanting that for myself but then also having to like. I have to slow down a lot of the times and say like they're going through this and they're dealing with this and you can use this person that's inspiration but you do not need to be jealous or envious of what it took for them to be where they are right now because you know freedom joy is our birthright so as long as I continue to work and function in the guise of joy and in the guise of like. I know that when my time comes in as long as I continue on my path all will be good and I think that that's kind of like the learning that we are always constantly needing to bring into our lives like reminding ourselves that you know what is for me is for me and it will come in proper timing that takes a lot of affirmation and a lot of practice in a lot of really. Just hyping yourself up. I want you guys to look at the. I believe the full moon this month is going to be on the twenty third I think that we just had another full moon on the twenty third last month but this woman. Excuse me this new moon I apologize is going to be an aries and the waxing cycle happens between the new moon to the four moon. So I want you to guys to pay attention to the last week of April going into seems to be the last week of March going into the first two weeks of April. And I want you to think. About what energy are you putting out there to bring new things into your life? It talks about this card being very positive omen saying that there's a lot of work to be put in and you're not quite there yet. But where do you WanNa go and do you believe you can get there? Let me say that one more time. Where do you WANNA go? And do you believe that you either? You can just keep meditating and focusing on your desired outcome or you can make the courageous commitment to take more practical steps towards your goals. Whichever you decide you are most certainly on the right track. So this is something. I think that we've talked about before but I want people like process. What is your daily routine for yourself? Do you have a daily routine for yourself bribes? I Try. I have a couple of routines that I do. Yes but they lack. You know I would say maybe two or three throughout the week dot EU. I feel like these daily routines and the things that you use the kind of hype your own personal energy up to really keep yourself grounded or going to come in handy right now. I know for myself I wake up. I have like my little meditation prayer. I'll read a couple of devotional. I'll like pull a car for my cells journal about it. And that is what I have to kind of cornerstone my day. It's like that's the energy that Philip and my well in order to go throughout and deal with all the things that are happening in this world on a daily basis and then I always know that I can come back to those artifacts. I can come back to those pieces of information to help ground myself if I feel out of Lima throughout the day. These things are going to be really important. Because you have to. Remind yourself where you're going in like sometimes. You're the only person that can do that. So how can you hold yourself accountable over the next couple of weeks? I know that you said you have like three days a week that you're always just like trying to make sure that you're doing something it's just like you know maybe try to turn into four. It's like putting the little bit of effort. Somewhere is really what matters and then it becomes second nature as you go along so getting into a little bit of advice. The groundhog spirit says it's time to let girl and then the Dove Spirit says it's time to be peace so this just goes into everything that I've been saying about just like letting go of the old bring in the new and being peaceful. What does it mean to have peace? what does it mean to have joy like in? How do you bring joy into your life for allow others to assist you in facilitating that joy? I think stability. What does it mean to have ability? What does it mean to have good friends in your life? I noticed something we were discussing earlier are some of the key questions to ask yourself and it's just like what do you need to fill your cup on a daily basis and do people take from that? Cup Or do people feel dot com. Now I will say there's always going to be snakes in the grass and there's always going to be As they like to say on Emotional Vampires Are you allowing yourself? Be sucked dry by other people's Shit is my question for you. Who so the Oracle Messer says endings lead to beginnings and death is a part of life? So groundhog spirit here to let you know. It's time to accept a natural ending. Something that's no longer serving you. We love to hold onto what's familiar but the new need space to arrive. So growth can occur When this appears assign there's something in your presence situation you need to let go of so that something new can be born something that will far better serve you now. So when this groundhog cease his shadow he retreats to his din so too might you yearn for a little more time to say goodbye and transition into the new however changes coming and it is good so let go of your resistance. Can I say that one more time changes coming? It is good so let go over your resistance. I think that this is more of like you have to talk yourself about the good that it's coming your way in the newness that is coming your way and allow it to come instead of being fearful of the change so many people are running around in fear right now. Let's just 'cause y'all know I'm a name it so many people are running around new fear right now instead of running around in faith in doing what is necessary in order to make sure you're doing your part. Make sure that you are washing your hands taking care of those around you showing love not being Zena phobic things like that. It's like really making sure that you're doing your part to hold your line and it's like what is your baseline for how you show up. What is your baseline for how you spread? Mug says spring brings many blessings. And what must die? We'll always be reborn in a new form. That will be right for you. Life requires change and detachment farewell to whatever once served. You get ready for something amazing to take his place beers already sending it your way so if you feel like you gotta let go of some people in order to make room for new Do so I hear you. My connection broke up that way. If you feel like you have to let go of some friends in order to make room for new things new opportunities because it doesn't have to come in the form of a new friendship it can come in the form of a new job. Opportunity in the form of a new career. Think about closing one door. Another door opens. But if you did not close that door. Put the energy into closing that door. You'll never know what's on the other side. So have you been reluctant and your efforts to revive something that's been paused this past his prime and needs to die away situation relationship belief or habit that served you once but no longer feels you with vitality child perhaps you automatically expect to see the world through specific. Lens based on the familiar. This is a peer to let you know it's time to accept the passes a pass so allow yourself to feel the loss and grieve it if you need to any sadness not last forever overwhelm you know that spirits with you and wants you to experience joy excitement again and this will help you through this transition from old to the new so keep your eyes open for winter always gets away to spring and endings always give birth to beginnings for now. Let yourself feel your emotions. Releasing them to make way for the job that awaits spring. A new roof on their way for that is spirits. Promised to you. So what you waiting for this spring brace but in my waiting for and which we get. What's coming your way better. Said you gotTa let it go and not to experience a new. So what we transitioned onto baby boo. We are transitioning new ventures and projects that I've been holding off on movie for for and yeah like you know closing. The door said people that don't serve me to people that take random hiatus for no reasons. When you're always the person to check in your the person look out at you know to you know maybe okay to say you know maybe dishes fizzle out. Maybe we should take a break. Maybe I need to focus on myself and you should focus on whatever they choose to focus on and your household is like you know and and I'm okay with that into that. I feel the exact same way. It's all about because you know. I'm in the space of small business ownership in just like knowing that there are certain aspects of it you know I have to kind of like let go of as far as like you know making time for myself. I tend to make a lot more time for others and I do myself and it's just like. How do I prioritize like knowing that I should be I and the other people should understand it because of the human experience we all got shit going on so let me do me you going to do? We're going to be good and the DUB DUB spirit talks about how you embrace peace house you embrace compassion. It can warm your heart. It tells you everyday's a good day to meditate too quiet any turbulence within you as embodied tranquility and I would like to say just for everybody out there. Meditation is not sitting going on in your house every day. Like that is a great way to do it. But that's not how everybody meditate meditate meditation is the art of being present the art of being aware looking at things around you and being conscious of what is happening. And sometimes that's just like you driving a car. You know having a good little song going on your playlist happening and you just being able to see everything that's going on around you taking a walk in the neighborhood and just letting the music blasts you're letting the music of the universe go above below and all around you much may be happening to distract you but your call to engage with the heart of a peacemaker asking yourself. What piece did you can? You agree to disagree so have however disturbed the waters around U. Dub Spears theater. Remind you peace without begins within as you reconnect with Spirit through practices waking you from Spiritual Amnesia. Your true nature is as a peaceful child but how easily you forget you being invited to sit in the cozy safe nest of spirit. Soon the waters will become still and you will feel peace again. Be Compassionate with yourself at this time for all of us can forget. That peace is always at hand always. They're gifted to us by spirit. Become the PC you wish to see in the world so you can reduce any suffering performing acts of kindness and radiating love. This also reminds you when you see inequity or someone harmed in need or in need trust that you have the capacity to bring peace do smiling sending love speaking a kind word and listening with a compassionate heart. Do your part to be peacemaker. Nursing Compassionate reminding others of the joy of harmonious coexistence so that they may embrace the spirit within themselves so my reminder to people don't gossip don't be a part of gossip there's no need for you to be shady lady like best something that. I am being very aware of this month. About just like what are we talking about like? What are we talking about together like? And is this something that is diminishing somebody else and it's like why is that. Why do we have to give energy and said that? How can we BE PEACE? And how can we understand? Everybody got stuff going on and I'm doing my part you doing your part. We hear together and I feel as we to like live in that. Let go of old ways of being and just kind of like bringing the new creativity bringing the new love bringing new opportunities. Everything is going to be fine but it takes us reminding ourselves of that on a daily basis. Yes for sure okay. No shady ladies are writing That's all I got. I go into the next couple of weeks. I think this is very much like everybody should be focused on themselves. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's real. It's real shit like everybody really needs to be focused on themselves and how they can be a piece of of assistance of others around them. Like how do you breathe love into all your actions and I feel like those are the things that are going to bring you the most grounding right now and that's what's GonNa make sure that we're all moving forward feeling good? Yes I love the focus on my cell focused on what I need to do. So you guys heard it first purple. Ps posse to focus on yourself and to let the negative or let out quarantining yourself in. Listen and that's and there's nothing wrong with that because when you quarantine yourself and you give yourself that time you teach others how to take care of themselves to listen. I'm here for well. Thank you again. Gangsta garb but before we go. Where can people find you if they need a personal rian or they want they wanted to catch up on? What shoe won out over there? Thank you for asking if you are interested in following my content. You can find me on twitter or Instagram at gangster. Gurry a gangster with A. Because we don't do that Art Busta Shit over here agree with two RS. You can book reading with me. Ricky Healing Candle Magic. I can't imagine help you release those blockages girl. Gangsta gurry DOT me. Yeah thank you and this will conclude this week's episode of Purple Pants. Premonition ace are keeping the show roar we onto my favorite part is the purple pants. Picks shoot pick assay. It's the Purple Pants. Picks Kazoo is that way all right so starting to purple pants picks off for those of you who are new to the podcast and some of those who need a refresher every Friday or Saturday. I will post to my instagram story at the Purple Pants. Podcast or Bryce Isaiah B. R. I C. E. IS E Y H Post a photo of Purple Pants. And I'll say drop some topics and you guys can pick them pop kosher. Tv shows anything. You wanted to t- on that you need your baby boy take on and I got you covered so this week. Let's get a pop in. I've started off with H. Romano's seventeen right's favourite skin products. Ooh baby boy is all about a nice skin regimen routine so I love all of the clear and clear and hockey say clearing clean and clear products. I love them all however sometimes they'd be a noodle expensive so I- Muhtar J. Target Shopper. So Target makes up and up products and they make exactly the same products. But I love a clean and clear. Exfoliating little apricot or the up and up one and I love the morning burst of love to use that as well also. What else do I use my mom? Since I was a young young child Queen Helene. They had a mint julep mask so I will now. I use alcohol on my skin like I'll get a cotton rubbing alcohol on my skin. I very oily skin so the alcohol is not abrasive to my skin but you know each everyone is different but I always use an extrinsic the dirt off my face and then I'll do a mask. You know tighten up pours and also. I've been obsessed with the. Yes to tomatoes mass that you can get from my target. They'd be like a dollar by all of them and so actually the one I'm gonNA use today is which one is this. This one is the bubbly paper masks. So what was going on my skin. Oh Okay I can't wait to use that but yes so I love to use those. Ah Romano so who we all Scott next on this purple pants pick. We've got a D. Underscored drove bright's. Hey we all know. New York is the best real housewives. No shave just facts. I would have to agree. New York is definitely one of my tops. So I would say the housewives franchises that I watch religiously. Our House is over. Lanna fell off a little bit house is Potomac and housewives of New York. I'm excited because New York is getting ready to come out. We know Bethany is not on the season curious and excited. They got a new house. Why I'm hoping that they can bring the heat in the smoke. Like what you're looking for. But I definitely love me some Lou and I definitely love my girl. Sonia definitely loved my girl to render. Tinsley is I. I love to hate her and then Ramona is just. She just turtled time. Okay what else do we have got. A purple pants. Picks from T- combs twenty three. She wrote what are some fun things to do during the Corinthian and also I got a couple of similar ones and another one was from girl. L. Weidler Best ways to spend time while social distancing so I talked about this a little before in the menu but less ED I. I'm calling crazy sometimes on a Friday night. Listen I give me load. Does get a little tipsy and clean my house so there's always spring cleaning. There's always that project that we've been like putting to the back like all down. You know you work on. There are Lissi Daloa pedicure. Do a little you know. Do some fun things you can do. Facial mass you can binge watch all of the shows that I've been telling you guys to watch there's time and how about here's something like you know you can actually spend time with family. Do Some family activities on game our Paulette twister our poor monopoly our liberty. I had to take a break from monopoly. 'cause I used to play monopoly with Thera. Don't one and only Sarah. And e burials and burials we get so into it that it would be annoying. But there's so many fun things that you guys can do. There's so many books that you can read. Listen just because you're a quarantine in your house. You can still go outside garden. You can like you know you just WanNa be your distance from other people. So there's just a lot of different things that you can do. Think outside the box. So don't just be like oh boy like we ain't into of that there's a whole there's about thirty purple path. Podcast is that you can get up on. There's a whole bunch of different things. We've always been just so busy that we have not been able to get into so. I think there is the the amount of things that you can do as endless then I had another one that was Kinda sorta similar to this one EXO Jr EXO Gills. Zanan says also how to keep she writes how to keep up with my anxiety during the corona scare. So definitely think this is a tough time. We all are scared. But I don't think that you have to take one day at a time. That's the only thing that we can do. We can only live in the moment that we are and think if they take the necessary precautions. You know you're washing your hands. You're keeping your distance and you just gotta live life because at the end of the day. There's always going to be something. That's we're going to be scared all we're going to be something that we need to take precautions out. But it's how we react in those moments so exo ex-soldiers Zana grow. You'll be fine. Just breathe take take a slow down. Do what you need to do and have time for yourself. That's most important. That's not for yourself to decompress have a great support system friends that you can lean on during this time and you got me booth so we google. You Ain't gonNA worry about nothing like that. I got a great one from Philly. Jae Ho how do fight loneliness how do I get out of this funk girl less than I we you are in the same boat I live by myself? I'm single and so sometimes at night nighttimes can be a hard thing sometimes? We'll fargo to sleep on my child. Wear my man while I'm in bed by myself but it is a choice and that is the thing that I am learning and that I know is there is a choice in like you know? Sometimes we can be lonely but we don't have to be go through the motions of and of course like you. It's healthy for us to one partner. Want companionship but sometimes that's just not what life is. Sometimes we have to lean into other things that life is giving us lean into our work. Lean into our friends. Lean and other things. They provide us happiness and when we stop thinking about things than a lot of the time the universe will give us what we want. Another thing for me. Though a Lotta Times I go to sleep now all know me. I wish I had somebody to cuddle with. So what I've been trying to do. Is I normally do like morning workouts? I've been trying to do my workouts for at night so I'll do like thirty forty five minute workout at night so by the time is for me to get into bed. Baby boy ain't got signed be lonely. I'm jumping in their bed. We'll jump in the shower then. I'm jumping in their bed and I'm asleep but I definitely think you gotta utilize your natural supports that you have around you and have a friend and talk about it but it is a difference in leading the loneliness cap. The league caps the virtue of making their word up which I know what I'm trying to say but to captivate you or it is okay to say you know what I I wish I had someone and maybe are we. Can we do about it like you know? Why are you dating or are you talking to other people? There's definitely ways that you can go about this. I hope that how boo who will we got next. Oh Phil tastic. I love fields. Fill tastic one rope. People Horde in soil paper Dora a virus break. It's not like a hurricane is coming bay. Fill already talked about this but yes why is you're buying this all the paper? What are Y'all doing? Another thing that I would say is in the state of Pennsylvania like we have PECO MPG. W as our water provider and they have said that during this outbreak time they will not be cutting off anybody's water anybody's electric so we don't have to worry about that. So WORST CASE SCENARIO RUN OUT OF TOILET PAPER. You can get in the shower. You can get a low washrag and you could wash show Budi. You will be fine trust me. I was almost have I ever. You know they know the paper out there so I understand. The mass hysteria literally is no knee. Glisten we one thing about us we are people that know how to improvise and when times get hard imperfect. Improvisation death not a word. Either but improvising is one thing that we're good at. We will be fine so stop hord in this whole the paper and Bay Bay the question that I got about a thousand times. Okay oh I got another one. I got one from box boy mugger. That's actually my little cousin Kevin. He says he writes handicapped relationships. So little backstory my cousin Kevin is paralysed. He actually was shot about four times. Maybe about six years ago and so he's actually in a wheelchair now. Kevin wanted to call the people that I know. And so obviously. He's writing about handicapped relationships. I think that hidden relationships are great and I think people need to be more open to relationships just because you're in a wheelchair just because you might not have a lamp that doesn't stop you from being a whole person with feelings and love and being able to give yourself to other people and I think more people need to be open to that. Sometimes like I talked about it before. Sometimes we have this envision of our prince charming or are princesses to look certain type of way. Really we've got people in our lives that could be that but we are vein or we are too self centered to actually see that. I actually am totally here for that. I actually when I was in college. I stayed telling you all Mott's hey let me. What the whistle. Let me get list. Let me emergency on. When I was in school I actually was my sophomore year at simple class with this young fellow and he was like legally blind he could see objects but could not see like he used a he. He read Braille. He had a walking stick. And we I forget. We had a project together something. I didn't even know we had a project together and we had to. We worked together and we'd like to talk on the phone often and I never forget that I got an email from him and I was so curious like how does email. But that was just me being so Me being so ignorant to the modern day technologies and they wrote me this really nice email just saying that they were so excited to get me as a partner because they were worried that someone else in the class and they just left my spirit and my energy and that he was interested in like maybe going out on a date I was like what in the world and so like we went on a couple of dates however they weren't from this area and then after this semester. They didn't come back to simple. We still keep in contact to this day and so I always would say that. I'm open to like you know I'm open to love anybody that can text me or call or show me attention. I'm here for so. I'm here for handicapped relationships. I actually don't even like the term handicap relationships. I like relationships period. It doesn't matter. What the bill does it matter? We all come with our own. Different flaws So that was a good one and then I got this question about a third third one hundred times Michelle window that theon window. What's that with Window Michelle? We need to know what's going on with Love Island so. I don't know which I want me to tell you I think that it's very evident. I think that you know even on twitter window has said that he did date Michelle I think that a lot of times people get confused being in a relationship in dating. Okay it's it's a it's a whole different ballgame. You can date someone you could be in a relationship with someone. Obviously you'd how window sale. They might meet the figure out what they you know. There are a word I want to say. They might want to get on the same page but obviously you know they kick date what's your. Why did I was hit? Their baby? Boy Is my business. Day kicked it. Well let's stay tuned. Excellent a beach this Wednesday with poppy. But that's going to conclude this week's purple pants picks I have a really good advice for Bryce. So let's move on into that high brace. I finally fully realized accepted that I am bisexual a few years ago and after a few months of being more comfortable with it. I came out with friends. I told my parents. They didn't get it asking questions like so. Are You gay? Is it just a phase and but are you going to end up with a girl right? They understand it better nail but it's something they rather not talk about if I mentioned dating they default to female pronouns and when I redirect them to hey or they. They changed the subject in questions to serious Seriousness of the attraction and the quality of the person. They are good friends with a gay couple and support others with kids in same-sex marriages but I guess it's different when it comes to actually their own son. Their relationship with me is still just as loving and supporting and other areas but it fills dismissive regarding this part of my life. Is there anything I can do to get them to acknowledge that this is part of? Who I am great question. I think that unfortunately a lot of the times and I see this a lot. I see a lot of people that are allies for the LGBTQ plus community. They want to rally for us but when it comes to their own children they have a hard time accepting and that's unfortunate however. I'm glad that you were able to be open and honest enough with yourself. So congratulations for that because it takes people a lot of time and a lot of energy to do that. So congratulations on that. And congratulations. They'd be able to be open to who you are to your friends and family so this is what I was saying. This is something that I always buy is that I am very comfortable with who I am and I don't try to push it on anybody else. I feel that sometimes when we push or we won acceptance from others. It's like that we are actually okay with it with ourselves. I find that when you are at peace with who you are. You don't need acceptance from anyone else from your parents in front like you know a lot of the Times. Our parents are from a generation that is difficult for them to accept that in their own children And I think that it's not a reflection of their love on you. It's just a reflection of the error that they were brought up in. And it doesn't make it any easier on you or your feelings but I think that if you continue to live in your truth and continued to be who you are and continue to redirect them when you bring up dating to like well. I might data mail. I might date a female. I don't know I think that if the more they do that the more they will learn that they need to be more respectful however I always go with the side up you gotta be okay with if they never accepted because ultimately about you and your life and who you choose the love and I know a lot of the Times people are like campaign rally be bisexual and like they can and I've always said that again sexuality in my opinion is something that is fluid. It's not just like black and white. It's not just gay street. It's not any of their fluid and there's fluidity and there's like you know there's a traction and just like I was talking on my purple pants. Pick love is love relationship relationship. You can connect with somebody and it'd be okay and I think the more and more they you are okay with it and just kind of reading the email. I question whether or not you are a one hundred percent okay with it and obviously that comes with time and comes with more support but I would just say continues to surround yourself with your friends that supports you and really lean that because your family may never accept you and that's okay but it does not mean that they don't love you any less. It just means that. That's that's a flaw of theirs and it's hard for them to accept it however you we've got to continue to move the needle forward and we have to concede to live our life and you have to be happy with. Who or whatever they decide that you end up with and you know hopefully when you bring them around your family. They'll be respectful to it but you ultimately have to make that decision you are going to live your best life for yourself and so I don't know your family so it's hard for me to tell you things like that. You can do the only thing I can tell you with consumers living your truth. It seems that you've come a long way and it's like to be commended and continue to move forward. Continue to have that conversation but I would just say don't expect for them to maybe change their opinion and I think that when you have that understanding that maybe they won't you can think of to live who you are and the more that you are like undivided one hundred percent who you are the more they may come around and more they may say like you know what this is my son. I'm GONNA love him. I'm going to accept them. And that's the only thing I can say is continued to truly live in your life can shrink coke. Continue to truly be who you are and explore. And it's okay and I'm giving you one hundred percent permission. It's okay it's life we you gotta live your best buy because guess what at the end of the day we only get one so. I hope that helps baby boy Please email me and yes I know who this is and so the next time I see your person I would love to kind of chat with you more but thank you again for sending in that Purple Pants picks and anyone that has not Purple Pants. Picks advice with brass. Anyone that needs advice for Bryce. Please feel free. Doesn't matter how short how long how silly it sounds. I here to help and so you can email me at the perp purple Pants podcast at GMO DOT COM and baby boy or baby girl. I gotcha now with this week with a lot of the craziness going on a lot of the uncertainties with this quarantine in corona virus. Everything that's going on. I reached out to mother. Bob I said Bar. We might need a barbs message this week. So you know it's not on our regular regular. It's not on our regularly scheduled agenda but listen we got it for you without further ado. Here's the barbs message. Hi this is miss. Barb and I'm here once again to share with you a few words of encouragement you never really know the true impact you have on those around you. You never know how much someone needed that smile you gave them. You never know how much your kindness turn. Someone's entire life around. You never know how much someone needed that long. Hug or deep talk. So don't wait to be kind. Don't wait for someone else to be kind. I don't wait for better circumstances or for someone to change. Just be kind because you never know how much someone needs it love you. Yeah Avenue there barbs message. That message was for you thanks again. Mommy loved it. Now move on to the Freak Week Bay Bang solid business like I always do and I was scrolling through the ins- Doug Graham last week and I actually got an email. You know our allies from survivor from amazing race Elisa Orleans she is running for Manhattan District Attorney and I'm so proud. A allies the address. She the frigate week for going ahead and follow her dreams now. Elisa is a very polarizing person. You either love a hate. I am one of the ones that loves allies. The one thing that I love Elisa is that she stands at her true was she believes in. That's what she goes hard for and I just we need more people like that and so I'm just so proud to be a licensed friend and I just you know I said wait got we can't. We can't lead pack without letting the people know our allies is running for district a tardy of Manhattan. So I am just so excited and I just wish nothing but the best. So listen if you guys can go to allies instagram. At e Orleans E. R. L. I. N. S. A. Show baby girl some love as she is taking on the Justice System. You know allies. That don't play Lazett. Listen they better watch out for lies in their courtroom because she don't but congratulations alive is going to conclude this week's Purple Pants podcast. Thank you guys so much for riding it out with me this week. 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That's Harrys Dot com code. Five thousand enjoy enjoy is the purple pants. It's the Purple Pants. It's a IT'S A it's A. It's a purple pants. What's going on purple podcast listeners? This is Lauren Ashley. Back season thirty nine island of the idols. Finalists I've just wanted to say if you try to unwind you better get your box wide. Put your headphones in and and listen up quick you know what it is. It's the purple purple beans apiece. PODCASTS you better listen up quick. The Purple Pants public my stomach her the a piece podcast. She's trying to get their bikes wine. If the Purple Pants podcast Hervey right purpose pants. Who Lag and welcome to this week's episode of the Purple Pants podcast? I'm your host. Breath is Sega and you already know we go to gather with Bingo on all with pop in. I hope everybody is doing good. Yes listen we. We'll start right off because this I had to wear my Wessel is been a warm weekend in Philadelphia and I am here for it. Got Up to like sixty five today. I got my windows open. Said let me wet the West. So so. You're not wearing the whistle. You know here in Philly we have a store called Wa wa. The I don't know what a why is is you need to know is kind of like a seven eleven. Eight plus convenience store that has the daily by is a national treasure here in Pennsylvania. So I- hair. Hey where and got me a little juice from Wa wa alot watermelon lemonade. Not and I'm mixing it with them. T's okay doc list so you already know. Listen is burning but listen. We're going to get it popping busy as the be as always so this week. I was running around doing what I had to do. you know Laura Ashley back within town my friend You Know Lauren Ashley. Bet You know. She was on that ensure Izzo. She's on them thirty nine. She made it sits hot five. She came in its Hale my friend Desi from Heroes Hustler's and I don't even know what the other way hero hustlers. Heroes Healers and hustlers. She happened to be in town visiting family. So we all were able to get together. Me Window Lowering DESHEA and Ramona. We all got together has some dinner and let me just tell you how Ramona from see the one. She is the greatest of all time. I just love Ramona Amazon. Happy to I have the opportunity to call her my friend and whenever MIA Ramona. We'd just like little kids so I love or money so we were all able to hang out. Have a good time suck survivor. vava trying to pick winds head. What's going on? You know what you gotTa Watch Watch. Yes yes And then I didn't escape room on Friday with a family a lovely family. That's so nice So we all did escape room me window. Aw In this amazing family from art boards. Thought their son is a huge however fan and we watch survivor with them together and we become like family so I was as busy as a be. You know trying to get ready for work trying to listen trying to declutter my house because I like openness okay and I just. I don't know about y'all but I'd be like keep an eye on stuff. I find things from trips and all I WANNA save it. I wouldn't remember for the rest of my life but listen I'm trying to declutter Sabas out here cleaning and decluttering the charter you now bring twenty twenty right okay. So that's what your baby boy up to but listen. We got a jam packed episode chaos. A suicide about this episode. Listen but if you guys are listening now if you could please subscribe to this podcast you could rate me if you give me a review on Iberian arena reviews okay. Somebody gave me a one star and it wasn't my mom this time so who I gotta fight who try fight me. What's up pull up? So yes if you guys subscribe who you got me started there. That would be amazing so this week on an episode lesson you know we got our church announcements okay on this week. Finally I get to talk about sixty days in. I've been telling to get on here. We are two episodes. So I got a lot to say life after lockup. Yes Okay Angela Beck Heart Bras okay. We got Leithy okay. We got the more people I need to introduce out sue. Okay then I'm spilling some theon. He on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Okay it's a lot going on. We got the first Purple Pants. Premonitions of twenty twenty so I know I know you need to tune in for that you know got. The Purple Pants. Picks occur. Listen we got advice with Bryce and I'm starting a new segment. We have a message from barb. Barb always wanted to do and so listen. We got a message from Barb. And listen we got the freak of the week. So ooh gets whatso- whistles pop your popcorn pooch headphones and listen up quick because it's the Purple Panther. Oh wait let me let let let et me. Let me wet the whistle. Who is so good? You don't even understand all right so I on a purple pants. The church announces I. You know I always tell you guys this platform for me to be transparent with you guys. It's meant for us. We go together and like I mean it okay and so I just like to be transparent and just let her know what's going on in my life if I'm up I'm up if I'm down I'm down but I will. It'll be honest with you guys the last couple of weeks. I have been in a nasty little thump like truly and I try to like you know when I go out with my friends. I try to paint paint on a Smiley Smiley face but I'll be honest. I've been struggling and I don't know really what it is. I kind of like pinpointed. It but I've just been like laying in the bed. I've just been like not wanting to go out not answering people's phone calls. I've been in in e Ed and you know Oh just because food just makes me feel so good but I've just been really in a funk and I've been trying to get myself out of the funk and it's just so hard and I'm Jen believe it or not. I'm really a private person with my emotions. Like you know my personal emotions and so I don't really let a lot of people but you know I was talking to my mom this week and I was like well. Let me just tell my mom. I don't like to tell my my momma things because it's like I tell my my one thing and in this like that's all she wants to talk about. Are you okay are you okay are you okay but the good thing about me. Embargoes relationship is like my mom. My mom but my mom is also my friend so I was just telling her like you. I'm just not happy. I started this job. I don't love. It's not that I hate it. I just I just feel like I don't know I just feel in a weird please and I'm just like not happy. I wake up in the morning. I'm just like the last thing that I wanted to do. And so then my mind reminded me she was like well. You know the anniversary of your brother's death this coming up and you know I didn't really think about it like that. You know so. I have an older brother. His name's Patty and You know about five years this year he passed away and you know really affected our family a lot and so you know. My brother was like so similar to me. He listed list. I always say my brother bedroom was like the straight version of me like when I was growing up I wanted to be like Bob are brother was by handsome. He always was like the life of the Party and I just was like. You're not used to either lie him so the fact that my brother is not here anymore. It really takes a toll on me and I tried to act like it does not affect me but obviously like you know the way that it comes out in me. It's like sometimes I go to depression this time of year and so I was talking to my mom about it. I actually talking to deshea about it. Opened up a little bit some either. The friends Just you know just letting them know what's going on with me and to my surprise they've been so supportive they've been sending me messages. You know encouraging songs and and everybody just means a lot to me so I wanted to share that with you guys just they they like if you guys are going to a fault if you know you've got things and sometimes you don't even know why we're going to a folk but you know sometimes you. Yeah no less than people in like. Let your friends and let somebody know what's going on because I really like you know the other day. Does he like sent me a song. She sent me a Geneo` key song. Call Ways W. W. Dot A. W. W. A. Dot wide I s It was such an inspirational song. And I've been listening to it. Non Stop and it's just like you know telling telling you you gotta keep going like life. No said life was going to be easy. He's got its ups and downs. But listen we're built for this and so I just wanted to share that Purple Pants Posse just to let you guys let you guys. I know that you know although you might get this. Yeah you know Rob Rice but you know I'm still humid. I still hurt like you guys. I've been struggling so I just wanted to share that with view and I was telling one of my friends and it was like well. You should talk about it on the purple. PF posse. And I'm like no I don't WanNa be like you know a Debbie Downer. I don't want like you know. And they're like see that your ego don't don't let your ego get in the way of like you know you really being able to help somebody and so I just again wanted to share that with you guys. So keep me thoughts as you know are always keep your in my thoughts so second on a church announcements less their baby boy on a budgie. Okay and I have to get rid of my cable service so here in like a Philadelphia India we have like comcast xfinity. They're like the major cable provider and Bay is just me and my no lie like my cable. Bill is like three hundred dollars a month and I pay it faithfully but I'm tired of paying it and so I really WanNa like go into like the streaming services but see my issue is I like Dvr. I liked movies I like HBO. I like stars and so I asked him. I purple pants posses if any of you guys don't have cable and you guys stream let me know what you guys is us. I mean some recommendations because I really like at the end of January I really want to get rid of cable and probably will keep them for the Wi fi but I want to get rid of 'em they take too much so my money and so if you guys like if you use Google TV or Youtube TV or other streaming services. Let me know because I really need some advice. Sweet media me write me a message asses. Let me know but I really want. DVR Is a must. I definitely want the regular I need. Bravo I ne- I ne- We'd TV and the MTV like you Johnnie like their basic channels like that and I like HBO and Stars. So I was thinking maybe I probably could do like to streaming services at once so I have them all together but I don't know purple. PF posse. I'm like laws so we go together so help baby boy how I appreciate it and then last on the church announcements again. I'm GONNA keep running. Keep running you know winners at war. That'd be where twelfth. y'All know my best friend. Wendell Holland is competing. Okay so you know. I have to throw a viewing viewing party. You Know Bryson Wind presents the watch party so state soon here on the purple podcast. I will give you the exclusive details on our watch parties. Ed You know we've taken it on the road so it's not just going to be affiliated you know we got it comes Alanta and you know we need to come to other cities so if you want Bryce Win Presents Watch party and yet city tweet us. Let me know what's popping. Okay but yes. That's going to be our church announcement. Now let's get into this menu sixty days in now. This is one of my favorite average shows. I'm so excited I get to share it with the Purple Pants Policy. So the the purpose the primped about the state of premonition. The purpose of the show is outside sized billions will go into a different type of different jail. Each season and basically their goal is to be sort of like a mole in the jail and they are supposed to be in there for sixty days to live as inmate to basically see what is like as an inmate also to provide helpful information to manage the jail administration about what they can change and improve at you know we have my growth Steph on here talking about her experience on sixty days in bay this season. They the Alabama honey. Okay in the south or right and so they got six contestants. Okay so we got Ashley. She's a police officer. She's in the National Guard. We Got Dentist Bang. Bang let me tell you about jettas. Who Lay he is a chocolate delight? Tennis like six four. He used used to play college quarterback. He's like Super Super Super Cockapoo Bay. Dennis let our I okay Dennis. You be his daddy calendar or what. Then we've Got Alex. He's a political major science majors in political approach lifted. You see me messing up already. He is a political science major. He's a little quirky. He reminds me of a Christian Vicki. I really feel like Alex is going to be our favorite one. Then we've got Jennifer. Let's say about Jennifer so the season he's a starts out with like all of them males go into a room and they talk with like the deputy sheriff and they talked to chief peak. Now I'm GonNa get to chief peak because I li- achieve peak but anyway so they all sit down. It's like the manner with the men. Two girls are with the girls now. Jennifer comes in. Everyone says what they do. Dennis says he's a college was a college quarterback but but my thing with Dennis is well. What do you do now? You were a college quarterback you or out of college you know we know. Alex is a political science major. We know Ashleigh as a police officer so so when Jennifer comes in she's talking about she aboard again Christian now. What in the world now mind? Shouldn't Jennifer looked like she'd been bent through something and so the second that I see Jennifer for I'm like oh she going to do good on this show okay but that's just my little tidbit about Jennifer. Then we got shake. He's a correction officer from Pennsylvania Hilo on the Chubby side. Hi who else we got Shinde. I like she needs the African American female. She's in her forties. She is a youth advocate. So she kind of likes teaches youth. Utah Utah. She looked like she'd been through some things her life as well to okay then we also May. He is in the Marine Corps. He's like out of the Marine Corps. Uh Hilo Chubby to okay so we got the man with the man. We got the women with the women so chief peak with this what I like about chief. Peak so cheap peaky seas the men. He sees Dennis he alex he sees mad. He Sees Jake and he acts them all to like come up. They're all sitting down he likes. I want to tell me cover stories because we need to make sure you got a cover stories Dale so you know man it's like I got my first. Dui and I was traveling visit my fiance. Alex is supposed to. He's supposed to say he. He was on his way to Panama City with some friends. Cocaine possession of cocaine and then shake is supposed to say that he's arrested for embezzlement bafflement now Jacobs the correction officer when it gets to a dentist. WHO's the only black male contestant? Then it's got up there with like you know where he's going to tell people with our for like talking about. Oh my story right now like that ain't like that ain't where I'm at. Yo what's up check. You'd Cheat Peek. Like you gotta be careful. You know. He's a little cocky. Why he cocky not like okay like well? What do you want them to be like? Now my aunt you jake on the other hand his low nervous but Shakan who okay. I like Dennis. Dennis is like he's starting off really really good so they do the same thing with the females Ashley as a police officer. But she doesn't want any wants to know that she's a police officer so she's telling people that she's in the National Guard now. We know on previous seasons that other contestants have like spoilt the other contestants to jail meets so Ashley if I I'm a little nervous about how Lyneham that I'm a police officer. Because if they snitch on me and then the people how did they go on my ass. So actually don't want that Ashley's things pretty calm. She's she's not only one ethics cited Jennifer is really like. You know I'm here. I WANNA make a chase. But she is like Jennifer is calm. She's like you could just Italian if a Bentham some things so they act like well. What do you mean born again Christian so Jennifer like well? Listen I used to be a underage stripper okay. She used to be a recovering alcoholic. She he looks like it so like that's why you know she chilling. Shenice is like you know I I deal with kids. I work with kids that have gone into the jail system. Their your family's in the jail system and I want to be able to relate to them a little more. I really think she was going to do. Well do well in this as well so the surprise of the whole thing is now normally on on the season they meet with the people. And then you've got you get to go back to the alltel and then you pray for the night and then they do the processing this. This episode date was like we feel like from every somebody. Each group is ready so we won't send somebody today. Would you be no no no no not peak. I need to go. I need to take a shower. I need the wet my whistle so they pick people who they are ready ready to just like. Can you imagine finding sixty days. And then you get your orientation where you think you will meet your other participants get some training and then like you won't go home and get it for Chad. They the list that we sending in Naale so before they send them in. There's always a coal word. The code word. If like you feel like you're unfaithful you need to go. So they have to coal words. They put their left Africa left. Or right but you put your left your right hand over your chest and show that to the camera or you say is crowded routed in here so for the guy. I'M GONNA pick my opinion. They should pick a freaking. Then is because then there's the list and did it look like he writes a go so they pick matt to go in. And so it's like Oh you can tell me as like sweating bullets. He do not WanNa win so I need to call me wife. I need to call. Oh boy life now Manchu. He they show. Then you know that we kinda see this backstory. We get to see his wife get to see photos of him back when he was in the Marine Corps. Modu back in the day magazines to be kind of cute. Okay Hello Slim Trim. Now you're low chunking. He has a three year old daughter. You know and so making a little nervous you know so matt goes in in boom boom. Boom they take the processing and Mac os them boom and so ma- bump up he go in he's like in the holding jail and like you know man is like you know on TV. It looked so easy. Look like you went in the process. You and you know you get to go home chat. They had met and they're a holding cell for nine hours. Okay nine hours. So then Ma- got Oh baby weight so let's talk about this prison real quick right before I came into this. Okay well let me let me what there was a hold on so normally sixty days and if you guys watch sixty days in normally on the jails that they these people to obviously ish jail and ab crazy but them jails having like some type of order to them and each pod had each part is where like each pot has different sets of inmates in them. There's a women's pod generally at the jails one women's par 'cause there's like you know the population of women I mean it's not as much demand and maybe eight or nine ten mayor pods and you know normally like you know it's like three years. Maybe forty people to a pod Bay up at Alabama Obama Child. The doors. Don't even lock on some of the pods. So inmates are in and out all types day types of night as one prison guard art. Two hundred inmates okay. Hey they normally like this on sixty days angle is not normally like this. Okay so this Jalen Alabama is crazy everything okay. It looks like they are town okay is legitimate crazy and then in the beginning when we meet whatever we don't even talk about the I forget so anyway man is in so after nine hours awaiting man is like finally in his cell he gets he he's brought in and people should all around and mess just like war tomorrow just as the worst decision on my life. This is the worst decision of my life. I'm like yeah I bet. Okay okay so the first of the women's go in Ashley Okay. The police officer National Guard. Okay now mind you she. I'll oh how I feel about Ashley at this point. She kinda rubs me the wrong way a little bit like she's too high to go in and the second one was she gets in like she's just snitching all her confessional all she's doing this niche in. Now Mind you. That's what you're supposed to do but like you know so. She's a police officer so she goes into the holding style. She gets paid down. And she's like I gave a Ba- I give better pat down on the side of a four lane highway. She's like they didn't even touch my bra. She was like they barely touch my panties. She was like you know they told me to get on dress shoes. I kept my wired Bra on so although she is providing very helpful information to jail. But I'm like girl. Just go through the process. So Ashley get in there. She gets into the women's PA and it's a cry cry as well like just crazy. And so we're Ashley is realizing that once when she gets in there it's like she don't have no clothes and like all of. They said that they were provide. They provide a her with like one set of clothes when she was an intake. She took her panties. All they didn't give are no panties. She has no panties. She's just got one pants and a shirt now. She's into cell with Miss Rita. Thank God for misery to she. Is The saving grace. Misread it as all black lady. She got big bubis okay. I don't know what size of Bra Misread aware. But baby she got bubis okay. That's all I can say because module at night when we'd be seeing them like a big old booby so ashley fight a little apprehensive. She's a little nervous. She feels like she sticks out which she does And so the main issue. Where Ashley is that? She does not have any clothes and she has money but she is not able to buy underwear undergarments in like you know the commentary but like if she was local than they would be able to bring to have people come up there. So Ashley's big. Dilemma is as that like you know. Like the second night that she's they're they are like you're supposed to bring your clothes out and put them or in the front of yourself when you come out because then they'll wash it and bring it back to you. Actually only has one. That's close so she called up to a garden it it's like. When am I supposed to get my clothes? Wash him match. This car is probably me Ms Williams her name. This is me if I was a correction officer. She was while you're close with both be out here and so so she's like well. I don't have any clothes. She was just supposed to get naked. Put them out there and she was like well. You can go on my fellow Miss Williams. I ain't going to sell again. So as she goes in and take their clothes off his naked at this point I post a closed outside. And she's like Miss Williams but I don't have any clothes I can't go outside like you know in the common area and be naked and she's he's like Miss Williams. IRA or I will get you close. We'll get your so close. So meanwhile Ashley like makes a makeshift Bra earlier in the episode. Because like. She didn't bring her draw. Brian under wire any and magic are dirty sheet to have blood on it. So she rips up to she. And KINDA SORTA makes a brawl Nash. She just sitting in naked and three delight. Gloria they don't care about us. They decide they treat us. Grow down here. Deo Care. This holiday due to Machu you see Ashley in her jail cell like Miss Williams Bay. Hey and when I say Miss Williams is me hold on let me. What the whistle? Miss World Miss Williams on the phone. E N okay. That's make make out which doing and so she had no clothes so MS Reed. It's like well here grossly make shirt so actually obviously grateful for for that. But that's just like what am I cycle comes on like am I find you misread. It got like two blankets a pillow Ashley only got a sheet okay. MITHRA and giving up till pillow. Hello Myth Rita light here girl. Take another a shirt and put it on like pants so that you got your crew and your but out all night. So death's door to Ashley Story Met Story No way let me show I listen. Now let me get to this Guy Jake. He's the correctional officers from now. I WanNa say Philadelphia Ah from Pennsylvania. Okay he's got a wife. He's got three kids now. How much is you know? And my personal opinion. And so when they show photos Jake you know his correctional uniform now mind soon. Jake has a lip piercing. First of all we'll correctional officer. You know got a lip. Piercing clue number one in my opinion. Then they show where he's like telling a story worry about got a wife three kids they show all of these like cell fees of him in his like you know uniform and the way he's taking these southeast purple. PS Policy Listen. I'm just saying my Gaidar was like now. Now something low sweet about Jake but debt just you know just just what I'm feeling sub the day jake goes in you know he's not got. His Lip Luau Chunky. But so he's like sitting there stowed nervous so he gets put into the holding thou and immediately. He's just I if I could do this. I don't know if I can do it in me. Harm none inmate. Well we know Eh. You signed up for the show so also so he's in his holding cell so then Dennis so you know. They meet up with Dennis at a spot for Dennis to go in. Imagine like a six. He's like six five six six low tractive low African American male got body. He got on like workout clothes so so he pulls up for them to like you know take him in and chief Pika fly you show you WanNa wear that good look like you off of a movie. Set you down in the country and I'm like why chief peak peak is so hard on dentist like. He was on Jake with his looney tunes shirt. His cargo shorts Like this is how you know athletic. Black man this the clothes he weyer air so I got my eye on chief guy really filled with him to be honest shore so Dennis go in and then gets is putting the same holding cell is jake and unlike his first reaction is where he gets look we will really see them in the confessional. We just hear them talking he forget. I noticed Jake but you know. I didn't say anything to him. It looked like he was sick. Look like you know. He wasn't feeling good as Jake. Fuck you have been here forever. I be here forever. They coming towards the end of the first episode jaw as Jason Kidd into it just came to inch Out Jake put their minds you all out of order but oh well go with me follow me follow me. Follow me now. They gave everybody the signal pitcher right hand or you let him over your heart then. You're sure right here or you say it's getting crowded here. That's the signal that like. Listen I need to talk to somebody. I need to get out so they tell you when you ride into the jail to meet up the spot. 'cause you drive up to the spot for you to get handcuffed and that'd be brought in the producers tell you we were they like listen. The only time you cannot use these coal worth is in intake. We can't get you out of it would like blow the whole mission of everybody Chow here. Go Jake little behind and say talking about you. They'll put his hand over his heart. So the producers called chief peak and he likes she peak. He's saying that he wants to come out. We need to get him out to talk to him. teepee 'cause everybody else in jeopardy so they ended up getting them out they pull them for the interview. I I WANNA go I wanna go I wanna go the saw. Aw Saudi like all right stay Straw. We want to see what we can do so they ended up getting out punk. Okay why did you Donna for sixty days. And if you can't even make the process like what you just want to be on TV. Like I'm confused and I'm confused as to how you think you want to go back to Pennsylvania and be a correctional correctional Gar when may see you crying like this so he gets an army of failure failure so he calls his wife and his wife has child more like his mom. She's like baby what's wrong it he's like card jeweler and she's just like well. You're not a failure. You're not an inmate your theo. That's why you're Theo not an ma. Well baby why he signed a sixty days in so anyway he out so we get to see our grocery niece. Go in now. Shinichi's go where I felt like. She said she'd been through some things her life African American female. How forty you know? She got like the the black Remnants around how gums look like she's smoke cigarettes but we don't know but she goes in. I like harm Jonathan. She got a nice little. Sally Chenille issue is there. She can't the any gluten She's got a bad gluten allergy and she'll have a really bad reaction well they grow. What should they be any inmate shunning beef so so sinise has attitude because she been in their all day breakfast lunch and dinner couldn't eat nothing because everything that they serve them had gluten in it? Now I guess. Cheese don't have gluten in there but she was like I couldn't even eat the cheese because it was touching the bread. Well I'm glad you can't scrape it off so she goes to one of the guards about it and how not Miss Williams Liam's but a different guard the guard like well. You need a letter from your doctor saying an issue. Got This allergy. And I'm not from around here. I got arrested up here and I'm not from from around here. I listened to police that the police officer said well. I don't know what else to tell you. Okay in there boiling up okay. Now now we got thinnest now. I told her chief peak was given Dennis a hard time in my mind. I've been defendant in this. Okay now Dennis is like I'm going to be no pope in there. I'm GonNa let them know Sir you know I'm like okay child. Dennis get into jail and like I said his pod. The doors. Don't lock okay the first night then this is doing pull ups on like to tears like there's upstairs so he like jumped up in. This is on the floor of up stairs doing pushups. What the Dennis? If he does such a good look down. Okay then the guards like get out at this is like what what what what as so then Dennis is like you know. Somebody's like yeah. You start early early like I worked out and so Dennis as walking around the jail the common area like looking into people's rooms idea I work out. It's time to get these people brady and like putting up his muscles and flex their like dentistry trying to get you behind. Be Okay because now you're doing so much then we see Dennis. You know all throughout the day chat now. He wants to do his workout. So he's running around the comments area. He's doing this pull up their mind you he looked all right doing okay so I don't mind if you will watch you do it. Then but you're drawing like he is being extremely too flashy and I guess this is what she was talking about now the way that they cover For the show. is they pull other inmates out like that aren't participating in the show and like you know they say like they do in the documentary jail life and so they they pull out. You know other inmates. So we get to see 'em mates and so they kinda sorta x of inmates what they think about him and why he threw flashy he doing too much. Like you know you're supposed to get in jail. You're supposed to be humble. He doing much like yes then. You're doing too much but you look good so keep doing it but I want you beat up because look they look they look serious out here Alabama so then the last person so we don't get to see Alex Cohen yet. We think the Jennifer go in. And then you know the correctional officers correctional. We didn't done. Jake is also met the Marine Corps. He's not having a good time either so like he is really really nervous so unlike dentist. WHO's walking around the jail every room everywhere? All that man is doing walking outside of his room inside of his room so one morning he gets up an older guys talking to them like. Hey how you doing too good you know just hated here. And the guy's like well. What do you win for? And that's like a Dui. But I was up by the the army base. Ross I'm like wait from our court date and so the old guy like federal. He's I know way you federal federal. You wouldn't be in this pot so he does basically starts picking apart his story and he is sweating man. It's like oh no ho no and so then old guys is I get you need to get your story together. He may go back and look at their paperwork and gets a story together so then this goes in this room. We start like one hundred. Five people are believing story first of all dinners. Why would you say federal cover story? Ain't nothing say federal about not. They're all they said was do you. I hear you go. And so the story. They not L. believable. So now he's having a hard time so two days go by and really all you see like he all you see matt do like commend is room and go out his room and he hangs over the bars and he's like I can't do this. I can't do this I answered it and so I guess what he puts his hand over his. I'm like two people and less than two episodes muscles and so then his roommate is like sleeping. And you see matt like mouth into the camera like get me out of here. I go now. So they call chief chief pick up again. They're like hey we hate to do. We got mad putting his hand over his heart and so they pull out for medical and so they're talking to Matt so we don't know whether or not if Matt Mad is going to go home but we got mad crying and his little confessional. He's just like I have to be honest with you guys. This is the worst decision of my life and so we leave it there and also I forgot to tell yourself that night that Ashley to police officer National Guard. She had no clothed her clothes and she had panties so she had to put the shirt on and she was like. This is just so a meal humiliating right. When she goes to bed she put her hand over heart now? I don't think that Ashley Ashley is going home. Because in the previews I see more of her. But I don't really know about freaking Jake like what's up with Jay but listen it's good so listen. y'All need to get up on his sixty days in we cover here at that purple. Pin's podcast listen. Get up on it so next on the main you we have life after lack cow Bay Bang so good so good so good. I'm burning up to to tell you how good it is some but just start all with the NCAA. Okay so we start off. We see my early. I'M NOT EH Let's popping we see baby boy Shane so the first time we see Lacey and Shane throughout. I'm GonNa like recap of all of the couples about one two three sorry for five five of them. So this this recap is like over the span of two days not today's but two episodes because episodes behind but I one in my first little bone bone child to be juicy so I waited. I waited because I was so excited to girl acing fell we feel Atheist Shea E. S.. So they want anyway doctor's appointment okay They're basically going to see a fertility specialist because lacey got her tubes tied and you know now that Herman Cain Mary you know sharing with them kids. So they in the doctor's office and my Shane is like this is why I love me some. Shane is such a little kid. They like you know first of all the doctor go. Hey how you doing with that like you know introducing themselves. This is the first thing out of Chez Chez went went to jail when I was seventeen just came home and you don't really like trying to find a boise asks you all of that. Like why are you spin the information out like that Shane. So we learned that lacy got our troops tied like you know on her last son. Marlene Marlowe Shane was kids. So they're going to figure out what options is like the best option for them whether or not. She got her tubes tied like untied or to do like a lizard. I'm wetting the whistle. Some type of like non invasive surgery like where you can get the embryos I basically just go in and take the embryos out and implant them into her and so much Shane's like what's it embryo and so the lady light is so then they're like well you know if either one of my processes if we go inside them or if we get an embryo you got eighty to ninety percent chance of being pregnant within the ear so then the doctor like well. How many times do you guys have sex the day? Shane talking about five or ten in five to ten times a the doctor was like well. How do you find time no word now? Shane's like my job is to please. That is my job now. He ain't lying because you know these fans only pays. Do we have a number of fans only pay but she got nasty near as you do. Videos are doing it now. I may may not have tried to look at the preview you but I'm not paying US twenty two dollars for three minutes. I'll guy but have I thought about it. I'm not answering the lifted. The thanks a lot detector so they are trying to basically have a kid and basically you know shout list even when life after like everybody gets an interview so the doctor is like I don't know aw sure. Shane is if he's like actually ready to be a father. So we go back to lacy's house and we learned that Lacey. Shane are moving. Okay Okay you get that love at the lockup check you get a new house. So basically Lacy is renting and now lacy is buying a house now lacy you know they're saying they need space. They've got to have a baby but leithy light. Lets US know that child shamed on work and it's bothering her. She's like she pay all the bills for renting the house and now that they're buying this how she's like. I'm paying for the house myself. She like now. You know lacy when she was on love Laka. She was between Shane and John Now that she brings John in like you know the one thing about John John John with a provider he had a good job. I didn't have to work so we don't really like having a work. Shame being kind of like not working. Shane says they're like it's hard to get a job where his felony background. So the day comes they move in Bay that the house ain't even packed up. You got shame. Shame porn up some liquor drinking like Shane and even help you see the movers. All packing a shame. The movers like in the shed and mind you. There like putting would in a box. Why you're bringing would okay? I don't know and share everything here needs to go toward the the firestone I'm sh- sh- ain't doing nothing for drinking and and so he's like that's like not even back Newnan. You're drinking. He's I wa- remove it and she's like you can help them move pay. The movers for well correction lacy he pays the movers for okay. So Chow changes like Litho. This is how helpful Shane is. The movers are moving boxes. Shane got h-share a blanket and in a pillow and his and his glass. I'll drink the Margarita and glance Margarita. Walking up the ramp putting it in the thing like why are you doing Shane. Thank God Aleksey is like. What are you feeling about going in there like that? So while Shane somewhere on a box lacey reveals to us that she got a text message from John Last Nice. She hasn't seen Johnston's the wedding or talk to them since the wedding but John Shouts her and with Lady Mrs Tower. He wants to be with her. He's in a dark place and he's just sitting in his bed eh alone. Now Lacey concern for John Because John is a recovering addict. Heroin was his choice of drug. And she's just so nervous so she tries to call. Autumn pick-up tried to text them. He'd respond so she calls her friend and it's like I'm really concerned for John like you know he's never acted like this like he's acting like this before but I'm still concerned so the friend is like you know girl like he's done this before you need to focus on Shane. So meanwhile shame still drinking Lacey's like my dad's about to bring the kids over over so the kids come over bom. Shane's are happy. He's like do you want to see the house you want us to the host and so you know boom. He showed him. The House Lady Goes Outside where her dad and the DAD's like I'm so excited for view in Shane. The House Looks Nice. Lacey Lacey and her dad is close so Lacey tells her dad like listen. John's texted me and I'm concerned and that's like what have you have. Have you told Shane about this. Because like I feel like that's like I wouldn't be don't care you know to chew. Shane tried to fight the Daddy. In love at the lockup so why are they here. So but the DAD is like listen. You should be up front with Shane about this. Because it's not fair to him and so ladies like I now so then basically like Lacey's Walker. Her Dad out in shame downstairs down stairs in. Shane Lacy left open. Now sheet chain. Don't see the messages from Shane to Lacey. But he sees the messages that lacy was texted her girlfriend about John's Chabert salary. You wait. Let me where my whistle on so listen so. Shane text message of lacy talking about John on to her girlfriend. Shane living now imagine he'd been drinking all day. So M is you keep in mind now. This neighborhood they moved illit nice. The House Look Nice. I can't even say it like quiet. Little suburban area so Shangai research wasn't going to be talking to him. Were you doing I care about you. I love you and she likes saying what are you talking about. He's an Australian. And your foe talking about John You bring on to this shoot them now Manchu. Shane turned up now by outbreak. And they got this one neighbor walking by and you could see him in the camera turnaround looking at me. The neighbors me okay. Like what the hell they just smooth into this neighborhood. Can you imagine so same. Run in house. He drinking a beer. He throws the beer at the wall and leases come in and do you see our neighbors are out there. We just moved move to here and say the talking to him. I love you I want to be with you talking to him I leaving. I'm leaving shaves like that's all you do your from your the road from your problems. He's like you can't leave our Mary to you and as Lacey walking out the door lacy was lie. That could be done. That could be undone real quick. ooh Okay I ain't playing okay. Talk About Angela. Hey Brice Angela. What's up girl? All I got nothing nice to say to you. Why not because so listen? y'All know love after lockup. Tony came home after Angela time. He told her not Assu. And you know they're so. But we see on the last episode of love at the lockup that you know Tony go to work. But he really at the motel with two girls rose. Okay so this episode. This season of life after lockup picks up with Angela module first of all she couldn't even to the producers. Get there she on her aunt phone. Oh okay how galaxy one because the little fuzzy she will galaxy one like I really wish. I really wish you guys were here. 'cause I'm burning this shit now. Mind you it's looks like it's dark workout. Look like the sun coming up. She got low fire used. Because you don't Angeles and like a trailer park as she got a little fire by trailer and she's like I'm burning all the Tony Stuff enough burying it all at Tony Stuff. I'm done with them. I've done with them. So that's all we see so we like. Oh girl what's going on you know. I wanted to call her while you should have called me. Brace I got your number. Well I'll give you my number so anyway the next morning. We hear a knock at the door if Angela and guess what you don't Komo Kahad Marlboros. Okay it you know the sort of producers manage how you know. She got a coffee table right by us. Kitchen stove okay. It's like the dining room table right by the kids. Your show so the producers like well with us. What's going on Angela? Like you know I just really feel in you. Know something's been up with Tony. Something's been up with Tony. been little distant so you in the middle of the night got up and you know on his damn phone on his damn foam and the living room so he got up with texting while his fall. Okay Hey he went to sleep and try to get his phone but he had a lock on it. So Bay Bay Angela. Okay this is how you know they got old phones okay. Took the within card out of his phone. Put it in her file and Bay Bay. The messages came up with Tony into prostitution. Apparently these prostitutes at the motel. Tony Working. He gets them free rooms for exchange for sexual acts and three thumbs. Oh I can't make this up produces like Angela's like I'm done. I want him amount of here and so it was like I didn't say anything when he when he got up for work. This morning he left out. I made a video are or his letters and I'm done with them and so oh you know. She liked what he comes home. I have to get them together. So fast forward Tony comes home. And guess what he right and then on a vote of Faculty Angela. Ball him. Okay I would a angeles this to say okay. What was Angeles says the name ABC care? Forget Donna Donna face that don't give a damn motorcycle so he come running in on his motorcycle he's like. Hey baby what's up and like what's wrong and just like we gotta talk. We gotTa Talk Tony. He's like what what she's like. I went to my and I've seen them pasta. FINA FINA messages. Tony's like what the message just how I also tell us. It's like way I just messaged them. I didn't do anything with them. I didn't touch them. I've been in touch them and like phenom get charged off and get out mind you Angela. Popham upside his head. It's always like don't touch me. Don't touch me is it's like what are you GonNa do. What are you going to get out? Get Out and there's magic. She has all this stuff packed. Up at the DOE. She wasn't playing Antonis. Tony's like this was where I parole to have to stay here. I don't care so she kick them out and so he takes his stuff and he puts it next to the trailer. He's not taking Angeles. Oh you got to sundown to bit here get it because if not I'm burning it now. This is where I feel like antelope was being a little too. Nice okay. She going to let him ride off in a motorcycle no l.. No No. No no not my motorcycle. I'm burning it up with all the other stuff. You Ain't the listen. I told you when Angela I met Sony or life at lack of the first time he was like you know somewhat Schrimm like you know how he looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy Ryan on that motorcycle. Okay so he. He takes the motorcycle and Risa of couldn't be Angela. The motorcycle stays here. So Donna fake comes over and what's all of this outside and she's a whole. It's Tony now mind you. You Know Angela Smoking cigarettes and she's like let Donna her sister. Let me get cheating. He cheated and she's a head with the girls at the motel. You always giving them rooms and Donald faithful and what in exchange for sexual acts and she like. I told you he was gonNA play you. I told you play you as she liked. But you still got his stuff here like when is he coming together Giddy and she dot ch listen. Donna Faye no her sister. She's going to take them back. You want to take them. It's like no. I'm not so later. In the night youth nighttime they actually have the producer adduced cameras here now you know. She burned a his stop. Got As low shirts and stuff. So Tony Pulls up. That's my stuff. And just like it is and he's like Angela. I'm sorry forgive me. I've made a mistake in measuring okay. I'm we Angela. Now she's staying strong and you know he's like I need to come inside and need to come inside my house. It's like this ain't your house this my house this my trailer okay. That's my trailer. So He's like you know canceling and just like you did that already. I'm not falling for your stupid supineness. I'm not falling for your stupidest Antonis like but I love you really want to work on this occasion green because I wanted to be forever now wearing her Dan he wears her down but the episode episode is where her going into trailer. Slamming the door saying that he can't come in Chad. I don't know so. Let me introduce you guys to another couple. There's a girl named Megan Michael Sarah. So they were on love after lockup and then they were on the first season of life after lockup and now here's the second season of life after lockup so Michael Oh is an African American male his baby Mama and his wife Sarah so when we meet Sarah she got a daughter. She's three and Michael's with her but Michael Started Tech Mexican Megan. You Know Megan. You know became a little thing. Michael came home. He met with Megan the first night that Michael came home you you know. Megan flew out to where he was playing in a hotel and she got him there late so he had to get rearrested because she did not get him to check into the halfway house at at the same time now Sara finds out about making Megan doesn't really know about therapa. Therapy is out about Megan. Then Megan finds out about Sara's is there and making me but at this time. Megan is like falling in love with Michael. She liked knowing Michael's Jalandhar. He'll WANNA be was there right he done with Thera you know. He loves Megan at this time. Megan is a version. You know in the first time they Michael came home. You know making gave it up so you know here. Is Sarah and on top happening. Sarah is pregnant okay now and he mary so he finally breaks down and tells Megan he's married to Sarah. There is done with this. You No more to do with it. But of course she loves him. He keeps calling our Michael's mom his sister. They don't like Megan their team. Sarah they feel like she's a mass however however then you know Michael Garri arrested again okay when he came home the next time Megan how she was there with his mom and his sister. The sister ain't nothing. Do you know but that time that he was locked up. Megan Kinda SORTA hooked up with this friend. She's Sorta gave him a kiss. And so now we're just left with. Sarah Uh has two kids by Michael as Michael don't want nothing to do with her. We see Michael flying out to Texas to see what's that what Megan okay so he. He just shows up Chad. I don't know how to get money to fly out. Okay how did it get this. Call money to just show up as somebody door but they do. That's what they do and so yeah that's what he's doing and so he just ran. Can you imagine just randomly showing like. Hello so you know that. I haven't talked to you in two months and Michael Care so you came out here you know I love you my soul mate. I want to sell what shoe but we gotta figure now Magic Megan. This girl look cute. Little african-american grow module. Michael is this little skinny old black boy with a big old forehead and he has braved but he got his hair in a bun. So he's like I can't come in and make my day here. My Dad don't WanNa see you she like. I'm getting ready to meet up with my best friend so like you know what's up he's like I'm about to get a divorce from Sarah like you know I. I don't know where we go from here but I know I want you in my life. So she goes out to dinner with Michael and you know Michael Megan and then Megan how best friend be basically because they have his name Bryce because he you know he's a joy and so he ain't here for Michael so they sit down dinner and Michael Just automatically starts going on Michael. I don't trust you how you know we okay how we still know these girls I. I'm just saying like you know. I want to be disrespectful to you. But I already told her. And he's like but you didn't tell your Mary who's like I did to lars ars man. He's like what might be was like. Well after after we found out that she was married. Already okay so and it's dinner but you know here's a Megan sticking sticking up for him like well you know it shows a laugher flat of Texas and sit down with people that he knows doesn't like them that you know he wants to work some things out so then later in episode you know he meets up with Megan's Dad and so making dad. Is this like six three big guy and so you know they come in imagine making that is not here for him. He's like you know to argue divorced voice and he's like I'm in the process. He's like so we won't what's the day you know Michael's Roy I. It's a process to that and so basically Megan dads they. I don't really want you for my daughter. I feel selected. You could do better. He's like you know it's just going to be a big mess in the Senate but make us like well you now. It proves a lot that you want to try. You know I love him so then they pan over to wherever ETA Michael Baby. Mom's wife with the two children's at Feira and it's really sad because he's got a cute two daughters one five four years old and like you know. They showed the daughter trying to face time him like as the doors. Face Timing Michael. She's like he's not going to pick up. Daddy never picks up So they have to role play. Therapy has to pretend to be Michael so that NYC her daughter can talk to Mike but we get the tea. That fair is Michael. She wants to be done with them. She calls her girlfriend over. Basically you know she's how's the girlfriend. She pays Michael Cell Phone Bill so he can keep in contact with the girls. He never keep in contact with his daughter and he she has his bake statements eight minutes and so they go through the bank statements and he has all of these cash apps from these different girls. Some from Megan other from Jennifer's a couple Martinez. A couple of Monaco's. Okay A.. And Mind you on the way. Mike was on his way to Texas on his way to make us house a girl. 'cause I don't like what you're doing like just take the kids McCoy mcauley tonight. I miss you and they're like Oh. Is that making no another girl. Okay so Michael just a pimp. He just a mess a hot mess. Okay so we'll keep you updated on. I'm giving got a brief brief brief. Okay then we have Britney and Marciano okay. Brittany was in jail more theon on a road to her okay. Marcy Britney has five kids suet kids got adopted. They went to the foster care system Then you know she has another son named Giovanni by her ex boyfriend named Tito coca listening and honor Tito. Let me let the whistle system. Tito's so Marciano. Her husband and Brittany. Don't get along with Tito's and she has another daughter. I think our name is like so we are solar and we find out this episode. That Britney is pregnant now Marciano. He is a fulltime poco plate perk poker polka poker player. And and he's like Sorta Kinda control and you know you can tell back in the day Marciano. I'm saying his name wrong but unwittingly whistled. So Oh well for this pointed episode as Marciano Marcella. He's been of controlling Britney also is like Sorta Kinda bisexual when she was in jail. She had some lovers in previous seasons. We've seen her like the friends. Are Ex lovers. Who are her friends? Come by and Marciano. Don't like her. He does not like her hanging out with them because he feels like you know one. He don't know whether or not she's still gonNa Hook up with them and he feels like he don't like you know her to be around the negative influences so we find out because they go into a doctor's appointment that Britney is pregnant with her fifth child. Oh Okay and so the issue around them is now that like you know. Marciano is a fulltime poker player. She like well we need some. You know we gotta get some regular money coming in. Although the Dow he's able to pay the bills He you know fat. You know three kids you know a wife our roof car insurance all that stuff like like you know what you want to do with all of that so they had this conversation about him getting a job. He's like you know well. I'm really liked poker. He's like it's hard. I haven't had a job in such a long time. Are you you telling me it's hard like I'm a felon like people. Look at me like crazy. Well here's my thing grow. Why don't you try and get a job too so another one of Britney Marciano bills is they have a Giovanni who Tito son they have a lawyer bill because they currently have four custody of Giovanni Giovanni lost his visitation tation Giovanni Tito losses vittles visitation with Giovanni because like you know he was not meeting his family service plan? He's it's been drinking and last season on life after lockup Marciano and Cedo they met up to see if they could work together bay. They ended up getting in a book book. Book Book Book Fistfight as so Tito Succumb to court. Now they've got this spike. You know this lawyer bill for the criminal charges were not necessarily the criminal charges. But you you know this child welfare case and it's cost thirty thousand dollars so with thirty thousand dollars hanging over their head okay. A new baby on the way like yeah. I need to get the work. So Marchiano goes Kinda like temp agency to Kinda SORTA like you know. See what he'd get a job. He's like Barry Company. Get A job. They ask them how much you WANNA make. Sixty just avid thousand. Now here's the thing Marciano. Does he was in the Marines. He does have a masters degree he used to be a model they show they show a photo him back in the they look at our I okay I said okay so you know basically but he's talks about poker and so the recruiter is like well. Why would somebody want to hire you? If you know any day you could just leave to go play poker. So that's kind of story where they kind of like gone with that. Now Mind you my other. The favorite Capo is Andrea in the Mar.. Okay and she is like forty. Lamar is sporty. Three Andrea is Mormon. She's got three children. She's from Utah. She he was dealing with Lamar for seven years writing him. He finally came home You know she uprooted her three children from Utah to La to be with Lamar to kind of make it work. And she's got like teenagers like fourteen. How once daughter is thirteen hundred? The door to is seven and it didn't work out. You know how Alex hope that I like so she went to. La didn't work out. She came home. He came to Utah to visit. He WanNa stay so boom he left. She hasn't seen him in three months months. So we see Andrea You know meaning her grow. France Kinda SORTA like you know. Just get out of her girlfriends. Had A baby and so one one of the now magical after following injury and the Mars story for about two years. Now from life after lockup to love after locker and you know none of the children that she has our by Lamar and so the MAR always says that they're his kids and that's the one thing I do like about Lamar but I also think is so weird because this relationship is still unhealthy and toxic but like you know. He caused caused the kids his kids so when injury is out at dinner were her girlfriends. She reveals that Lamar is actually the father of her youngest daughter. Order and a girlfriend says like but girdle make this. He was in jail when she was conceived and go where mayor. So how did you get conjugal visits. Purple Pants are y'all ready for this. All now let them so. Lamar finally parole so Andrea feels like she can finally tell the secret when they went to jail where she used to visit the mall about eight six years ago. 'cause daughter is four date. She paid the prison guard for some closet time. Okay okay closet. Time okay so she will go to jail. Slide the guard at twenty four in the closet and a girl got pregnant. Okay listen so. But Lamar doesn't know that he just dill claims all of the kids as his own kids so she think Utah the Amar's L. A.. We see Lamar. Lsu Out there wrapping. ooh which looking for I got the heat. I got this smoke which looking for one of his best friends you know. I don't know whether or not they say Lamar. Lamar was in a gang. But he's got gang affiliation and one of his friends and mind you Andrea has been saying like la where they were saying was not saved her kids there she wanted them are home. So Lamar we see Lamar. He's in the studio one of his friends. His closest friends got shot in the foot. And Lamar was like. They're really kind of take me out like you know be be born here today. Burn up tomorrow okay. So he's like you know really got him thinking you really wants to see. Andrew wants to see the kids calls Andrew on faith time and you now. She lives with He's just burp. Two little maids button Isel so they talk. Yeah he's like. I really want to come home. I Really WanNa see you when she needed. Just come home. He's he's GonNa come home for a visit. So Injury Mitra she's Mormon. She got two kids MODU Scott Son. Fourteen thirteen right defies talk about welcome. Home the Mar- WHOA. I wish barb would me somebody. Okay let alone get pregnant in the closet. He not my daddy and I gotta write a welcome Home Lamar but whatever hurricanes are kind of cute though they really take to Lamar and that is the one thing that I do like about Andrea is that like although unhealthy as it is like he really do love kids so they at at the airport waiting for the martyrdom home and like you know he's running into the late and she liked how that went down with him he come down escalator. And they're like. Oh aw now of course now that we know that you know her. Youngest daughter is Lamar's daughter like biological daughter when we see her like oh they look like they look alike look alike so you know there at the airport. They're hugging and embracing is you. Don't want to give them know hug. And right before they went to the airport. ESCA Hassan on if lamarcus libra his bay. Because the more sleep and were like girl wag front and this is the big thing this the one thing I like about Andrea as she tries to put up this tough exterior. We'll grow. Why did you marry him? Okay he's not leaving. La like grow up so that's where they leave it off so those are all the families that we see right now. I believe Sherwin Josh Ashes on this season or listen is juicy. I'll try and tell y'all I'm trying to tell you. So that is our recap of life after lockup is on not be comes on Friday nights at nine o'clock get caught up because listen you already know. I'm covering a here on a purple pants. PODCAST who chalet Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Now the mind you they've been in the headlines ever since you know she's one of the first African American females to be joining the royal family. You know Prince Prince Harry. Is You know Megan Been Dilawar. Her family drama You know them contacting the tabloids you know all of this drama been swirling around them initially initiative pregnant and Bay Bay. We learned this week. That Prince Harry Megan Markle to step back as members of the royal family implants. It's a move to North America now first of all. I didn't know you could set back at the royal family. I thought if you'd a prince two I didn't listen I listen. I had to educate myself. So listen they do not want to be members of the Royal Family. I guess is you know you can choose. You know there are some people if you watch the crown you know the ankle you can probably i. I know I'm saying that's why I wanted to say op stain op stance something. But I know abstain from not to do it but I know that like some people can opt not to be the prince if they don't want to like or the you know what what I'm saying if y'all watch The crowd and got on and talk about lifting. They step in back okay. They released a statement thing. After many months of reflection and internal discussion. We have chosen to make make the transition this year and starting to carve out the process of the new role within this institution. They said in a post on the ground we tend to step back as senior in your members of the Royal Family and work on becoming financially independent. Y continuingly to support of Her Majesty the Queen the couple says says that they will be raising their son with an appreciation for the royal tradition which was born while also providing our family with some space to focus. Now Bay. Now let me tell you how shady over there and a you know list with them the tabloids and stuff so you know over there at the Wax Museum. They had like wax figures of all of the royal family. And all of this stuff Bay Bay. When this week announced that they were stepping back the wax museum removed to Prince Harry and Meghan from the rest of the people and they will put them in a room across the hallway? Okay but listen. They about they coins though earlier. But this week it was announced that it looks like they are a Megan and Prince Henry. trademarked the name. SAGRADO below slow The Sussex Royal and preparations have brand from their exit at senior members of the Royal Family. Now here's my thing I'm here for it I listen sometimes you got to step back and monitor. This is definitely a megan. Okay sometimes you need a black female to come up in nearby listed. I'm not putting his boyish okay. This we won't be sleeping sleeping. Your Mama House okay. You need to get all house hairy unit. Get your own house. I'm tired of having to walk around. Acquaint listen but also the seriousness though is definitely like interesting because you see like the tabloids with how like they say. Megan stepped away from her family. All of that stuff happen now. She got Prince Harry. But I'm sure a lot and I'm sure like they really love each other for row for Real I. I won't be all up in this like I don't WanNa like you know however like we've never really seen this before and like you know for juicy juicy juicy mending menu topics but seriously I really do wish they were happy and listen if they come into North America was was popping. Okay okay. What's that Prince Harry? But I keep your postage just want to let you know. Because I know you'll be loving all of the The royals are notre. Loves the imagine. I'm so far far behind in the crown. I really need to get up with the chrome. y'All watch the crown. Let me wash the crown. Oh Kurt but lifted. Now let's get into the purple pants premonitions and we're back with our first twenty twenty purple pants premonitions. Yeah now okay. I read them sweets. I get the M.'s. I see the emails your ask your eleven the Purple Pants permission but wait. y'All can't love it as much as I do because although I do this for the Purple Pants Pie it really speaks to my soul without further ado. Welcome my good good good good good priests. That's my bro- in my sis. Gangsta got ray as we build happy new a year. Happy Twenty twenty with going all if you own chow less say it is. It's a New Year so new decade. Okay issues things move and CIA. I went to Toronto for the New Year. You know the doll had to get across the border. You know what I'm saying. Get Out of the country getting my little. I have my eat. Pray love moment moment as you say right so I had a little travel session went there by myself. Got Some really great clarity and I'm just taking some time to integrate all those lessons into my everyday. They being doing my work trying new things out bringing new things to the public about to offering classes and stuff like that to the collective and folks so things are moving really pass over here just saying you know intentional saying bliss how us how am you know. I'm I'm keeping on you know my my my spirit's aren't where they are normally normally are but I am trying to press through which is why I am I. But it's our first purpose per munitions of twenty twenty praise. Praise praise. Well listen. I'm not even gonNA hold us anymore. I'm a hot right into so you know as time goes on doll. Aw upgrades the doll. Doll brings new things to the table. So I recently purchased this planner from magic of Dot Com. If you are interested please go check it out. They are based out of Australia. And we know that there's been a lot happening in Australia. Chow however this planner is it. Basically shows all of the moon cycles all the translator. They're coming up so by the time that this comes out the full moon eclipse in cancer will have just passed right. The full moon eclipse in cancer is all about Out just like really letting go of those things are not working for your emotions. If you've been feeling all in your bag if you've been feeling really moved emotionally to just like let some things go so maybe you had a stroke of genius. That is very much in flow for what is going on right now. Lean into that the other thing I would tell people lean back right now leave my. who was the bed empty? The we the my honest the dossier Lozada dated eight forty on just because I was over here popping it like it was hot. Okay okay no because that's very much what is given for over the next couple of hours in the next week or so until the end of January. I am predicting this important to just like let things happen. Pay attention to what is translating. What's happening in your own life and making sense of that? Some key dates to look out for going to be the sixteenth of this month. Also probably going to be the twenty second and the twenty third so so notice. What's going on around those days? We also have the eleventh of January coming up all those days. Pay attention to whatever messages are coming through to you going to be mad important. Okay so going into the weeks of. We'll say this will be from January the thirteenth all the way to January the twenty seventh right right so this is going to be very important for you guys to keep in mind is all about intention is all about how you are. Fostering your soul the level of accessibility. That you you have to creating your own dreams right. But you can't let pride get in your way. As things are growing as things are coming to the forefront you cannot let pride get in your way in the next couple of weeks I ask those hard questions you know if you have to take a step back and really process something like a really work on listening and really work on just like thinking about how your emotions plan to everything anything emotions have always colored how you move forward in life you are being asked right. Now and Intuitively spiritually. I've been having to deal with because I can only talk about things from my own on experience. Step back pay attention to what's coming up and know that you have to forgive yourself for where things were how you may have let that come into the space right now and how that forgiveness is going to help move you for right now okay space gratitude. You have to be in the space of gratitude for all the things that have changed. You know you've made it to a new year. You made it into a new state of being. You know that there's been something that's been going on. That has kind of like made you really think about what it is that you actually want right now. What is that other people are wanted for you? What it is that you actually want but not from this old state of where you were a couple of weeks ago even like this is a new understanding that you're coming into? So how do you have the stamina to go ahead with this journey. How do you have the stamina to go down this path knowing that is going to bring you even closer to the goal and the dream that you set out? All of this is a period of curiosity. A period of exploration okay and knowing that you are an explorer. You aren't adventure right now but taking the time to appreciate the fact that you are on that adventure and knowing knowing that as all these climaxes approach as all of these things may arise having for you to just like really dictate. Is this my truth. Is this my understanding understanding. Is this my dream and then knowing what's right what's not and letting it fall into place as February comes forward because I feel like February march is going to be the months where you start. I just see all those things that are just like you know have been worked on so far starting to come to pass in a higher state so this is very much grind mode like you know isn't when is groundhog aroused as February or something like that Api February or March sometime. Yes loads with low head. Our we see the little town. So it's very much like this. This is your underground right. You're hibernating steel and I think that the idea of hibernation the idea of stepping back leaning that is going to be very important for how everybody moves for over the next couple of weeks through the end of the month to be quite honest so getting into the dream weaver. It talks about accessibility. It says go to bed with a clear conscience trust divisions you receive in dreams keep a dream journal or dream holds an important message from a deceased loved one. So if you've been feeling some sort of dreams some sort of recurring dreams dreams. What is that message telling you? Why do you think is coming up? And how does that connect to what you need to bring into the forefront as far as your your actual living reality. It says Explore Lucid Dreaming Your Dreams are manifesting into reality. Get some sleep. So if you've not been or has been feeling a little difficult to rest I will say this. Full Moon Eclipse that has come in. Cancer has been really jacking up the energy. A honestly as I sit and talk to you now last night I was so like I really want to go to sleep right Now late in the best sat back up I was like I want some popcorn brandon Lee and I was like I had one little bag of popcorn. Eat Popcorn right now. See here that I had some wonderful thoughts and then I laid down and I woke up two hours later and I was like girl. This is get our I don't know at this and then we're back to sleep and woke up two hours late and I was like well. I guess we're just going to hop in the shower and start our day different type of way today. If it's giving that led to give that try something new maybe your routine needs to be shaken up a little bit right now. How you feel what I'm saying again? Ooh your routine needs to be shaken up a little bit right now. You have to move my body because you know you shake it up you got to move it around a little bit shake up. The body shook the table this. She's taking off. They don't even know. But if you don't shout Out Mitchell who they're carly rae. Listen Carla listed Popkin Tag Hakkinen by HOOCHIE NOT LUA product. Then you sleep with my every night that's love and hip hop a lien. No love him. I get no okay Chow. We just went down a little rabbit hole where we went though shop. Listen grow hold stay. Let's coalesce come on out. Let's keep in mind. It says time is limitless. Once you comprehend this you awaken the ability to journey to the dream time interpret the messages from their. This will help you to access the wisdom of those who have gone before you including your own souls previous experiences ancient knowledge now needed via for the dilemma of what to do next. How to make the best use of your intuition or to help you manifest better relationships in a better outcome for what may seem an impossibly difficult personal situation? You will remember. You're watching you are here on this earthly plane right Nassar. If you've been feeling loss we know that this time of the year is very dark. Very dreary very dim understand that this is part of the upgrade. This is part of the transition in the most important thing and I've been saying this We spoke about this before even hopped on here reaching out to those people that are important according to you letting people know that you are going through this transition right now. Lenin people understand that you know what I'm saying like it's the Dark Tom Because you're not the only person that may be having that experience right now. When when you open yourself up to that reality for other people will change your world up trust and believe you heard it here first? Okay okay. It says. Don't let pride in your way. Self esteem is good. Vanity is not everyone is equally important creative urges should be follow works of magic friendship maybe ending now so if you gotta let go a something and in order for some creativity to pop up or pop out or maybe there's just a cycle of something that's moving out of the way. Let that happen but remember ask yourself this question. Have you been letting pride had become. An obstacle is anything that you are dealing with based on ego or is it. Based in the heart this is all about keeping that energy and that bake hearted energy at the forefront of your being. This is going to tell you you have to end whatever deadlock something has come to because there has to be more love and greater raider good for the situation. So if you've got to let go of something offered better to be done let that be let things be as you would be done by lately so if somebody you know you gotta deal with a situation or job career belief that you gotta let go of you feel what I'm saying. It's better to be you know. Lean into it with love. Lean out of it with anger like like. We're not doing that right now. Is All about just like okay. Now I'm ready. You feel what I'm saying. Things are fiery things are coming to an approach like this sort of approach to this climax. where it's just like okay? People are angry. We see it on a global level. We see things actually like fiery. You feel what I'm I'm saying. Let's be real about it but we have to know that we can either play into that. We can thin water healing energy. You know what I'm saying because water dowsing out all of that negativities activity so what you have to remind yourself right now is okay if I can lead with positive as much as I possibly can. Maybe I can Dow some of that negative energy out. Maybe I can Dow some of that fire. That is not working. You Dig is all about remembering if you're an intense situation meditate your way to peace. Don't be a baby about it and just have a little bit more fun. Lean into life with a variety of different color Palette. Instead of the one that you may have been using up until this point and remember that forgiveness is so important because it acknowledges ages that harboring resentment block the flow of love you can never flow with your natural energy of love unless you release the negative energy of hate anger intolerance or Blaine. Every soul in your path has free will and you have no control over that what you do have control over how you react to the manifestation of others free I will holding onto that. Negative energy will strengthen karmic cycles and forgiveness can break that pattern the most important person you must learn to forgive is always yourself oh blaming yourself for failures blocks the natural flow of love which will attract all good things into your life in our speaking about failures before we talked before walked on here honestly and we know that failures is what actually like blocks you from tapping into that creative process and embracing the maximum when one door closes another. Everyone opens some doors have to energetically close in order for some new things to come right but just having gratitude for the things that are shifting out send it love treat it with love be honest about where it has come from and know that this is just part of the like you're an explorer. This is part of the exploration process So we have to totem animals. We've the raccoon spirit. And we have the Horse Totem. Okay so with the raccoon told him because if you think about raccoons I think about them a little buggers being a. and trash cans right and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying scooting around but they're resourceful you know what I'm saying adaptable skillful. You know what I mean like. They have idea of what it is to be confident because you know they will happen to anybody. Strasse candle light. They will go anywhere and like you crazy. Okay they're going to trash can because they got to go get food for the family and that's the only way they can do it so sometimes you gotta go to. You know really weird situations go through really not necessarily dark places but just like sometimes a low of the low in order to suffice. You've Yoda I mean. Sometimes what you bring back is going to be beneficial in whatever why people are going to be grateful but it's all about you also explore and sometimes you gotta go to the depths in order to figure out what it is that you need and then with the Horse told him this talks about freedom so what does freedom you mean to you. How do you have the stamina to find that freedom how do you allow yourself to dictate? What this level of freedom looks like for us that financial freedom is that emotional freedom freedom is that physical freedom? Do you WANNA work out more. Do you hate working out. But you WANNA do some meditation in your house or do some yoga and your house like figure out what works for you and remind yourself that as long as you are powerful in spirit as long as you are powerful and determination for what is that you want to draw in let that happen. One of the things that I've been doing myself is I listened to brainwaves in waves quite often so brainwaves. They're kind of like the way that you can. I don't know like I think about is like reprogramming. Your mind for what it is that you actually do WanNa be psychic. Listened to your brainwave. WanNa get some you know depression relief. Listen to your brainwave throughout your day and it's just like you know really training yourself up. This is training so training yourself up for whatever it is that you are dreaming into to your reality and allow yourself to know that you have the accessibility to bring it in. But don't let that over belief of like I don't deserve I don't believe I can't. We don't do that right now. This is your like fresh slate as you're going through this eclipse season and as you're going through the month January because you know we're still in the dead of winter but it's still been it's GonNa get warmer soon soon so just hold on tight and like everybody. This probably listening to this right now. We all know that there's so much that's going on in all of our personal lives and it's just like we have to allow ourselves some time to process and know that we've been sometimes skating on the surface in order to get by and this is the time this on the surface right now. This is the time to really dive deeper into into those emotions than dive deeper into those feelings. Because we're noticing those those eruptions in larger spaces than just our own communities so because the everything else has to build up from that you know what I mean. There was a couple of days ago. I was talking about having like a firm foundation. And you know when you get to the very bottom the only place that you can build up. But at the end of the day you get to rebuild in the foundation in the format with the architecture and with the The different like bricks or cement. Or whatever that that you want to you get to make it your own and you get to make a new and then when it when it falls down you get to do it in the newest that you looked at it in but it's all about knowing that that's part of the building process success and Appreciating that for what it's worth knowing that's just part of life journey. This shit ain't easy and nobody said it was going to be but you can still make it fine chalet okay. Listen it's a real one but you know what you're everybody's capable. Oh you capable. I'm capable we all capable Barney for a second. Just show okay. Does that mean. I'm baby by listen baby maybe button. This is your baby Bob. I love that listened to be needed. Stick that as a stripper name. Komo okay welcome to the stay. Stay baby by you are you okay. Let me stop listening okay. uh-huh listen through the ones that make your chains make you change but no it's all about just having a good time right now having a good time just enjoying the shit. Don't try to do anything outside of you. Don't don't do anything extra. Just appreciate that that. That's the biggest lesson that all of us can use right now because we're trying to play in too much instead of just being and that's why we can just sit here. Have a good time had a little conversation station but then at the same time Bob around the motherfucking house I okay and enjoy life. Because that's what it's about and at that on that that's my that is my prediction for the month of January. You've already seen it happen in your own life and probably into is just prepare. This is a wonderful season for AH growth and realizing growth period point blank out could oh so uh-huh how you feel about that. What you looking forward to come in as far as like the rest of this month because I know you got some shifts that you're looking forward to some some big teams poppin gas breath? I am just really looking forward to you. Know taking what you said like you might be at the bottom of where you're at. But it gives you the clarity to not only rebuild old but rebuild the foundation and which in the way that you want to rebuild it not because you had to build a quick foundation and that's what I'm trying to look at it and be positive because you know we may not be where we and you know troubles don't last always but definitely you know in the morning the sun does shine again. So that's what I'm really. We like where I'm at in my life and where I'm at in my space right now so I am so taking that I'm letting it you know not just hearing the premonitions but like you know doing the work take the permissions and you know be able to see it. Come to fruition because you know I know what I want. I know what I see for myself. And it's like now is the time. Hibernation nations now was the time to put in place. I'm solo taking today. Have you don't even know now and I appreciate. I WANNA point out something because you said taking heat like I tell people when I'm like doing like Myra my work and stuff like that or with my readings and just like working with clients and working with people. I'm always like listen. I'm here to assist in you. Recognize them what's around you but it's on us as humans people to do whatever that means for us and then just just like be unapologetic about it but then apologize where we need to. We feel like we've run over. Somebody's toes you know what I mean but this is just part of what it means to grow and it's just like no one like you know you listen to this now and it may not make sense but like going back and listening to stuff and thinking about how things have changed you know you can be part of the natural flow of life and things can still not what changed for you. But if you're consistent about the action on your end that's all come to fruition who I love the I love. Love Love Lovey. Gil Thank you for having me again. It's nice to be back in this New Year because I'm actually sitting here. My Nice purple pays this podcast Hoodie. That I got for the New Year I was like I'm bringing in this New Year along with my brother Alvin. They're my best. I love the with the New Year's ears popping. You're not I'd be you know stalking instagram. And I see that you have a new patriarch. Group came what was that about. Let the with this so as as a things are moving and things are changing and I still have to be able to eat right. What I've been noticing just like I Doing just like patriots contact. I already have a weekly show so if you follow me on. I'm social media on twitter at Gangsta Curry or on instagram. Or not predominantly I do weekly Forecast for the collective. So it's just like I'll look into the upcoming week And I have been putting a lot of those videos on periscope but I'll be moving to Patriot very soon soon have been dropping a lot of goodies as far as personal concert for people that sign up and it's only three dollars and thirty three cents because at the end of the day. It's not about like it's never been about the finances to me. But it's also about valuing myself and I think this is also a message for people like you know you gotta put worse on yourself because if you don't put worth on yourself nobody else will and if somebody really really needs what you have to offer because people will you'll pay for a coffee you'll pay for you know what I'm saying to magazine so it's just like asking for just that little a bit to just be like Damn I appreciate that and I also have a lot to give now got school. Come in I'm about to be offering classes. I have a lot this coming in this new year. A lot of different projects. I'm excited to bring them to the public. Thank you for asking. Of course you've got to build Damn Foundation awards. Listen from the ground up because this first couple months these last couple of months have been like the ground foundation for me and building up what I knew to be true and now I'm just redirecting it's like what feels good. What doesn't what have I enjoyed? What do I want to do now? Now in this new this new level you know what I'm saying because I know floor one I'm Lisa floor to now you feel yes you got to build it up thank you so yes yes. Thank you so much for giving us this week's purple pants premonition. I cannot wait until the next one is always a spiritual refreshing refreshing renewal. I love it. Thank you so much thank you yes I just love the purple pants permissions. I feel like there's speaking some soul. Oh well all right. Let's get into my favorite part of the Pie. Cath Purple Pants pigs. You pick you pick out talk you pick go with popping I have khloe. CEO Khloe underscore co right. If you could only eat one meal for the rest of your life what would it be who Khloe. That's hard but I'm going to have to say it definitely would be some type of like breakfast food. I am a breakfast lover. Okay give me some pork Bacon. Yes per play please. I definitely would like some bake gin. Probably waffles scrambled eggs with cheese. hashbrowns ooh would like some peppers and onions day. Every day for the rest of my life yeah I adeptly could do their own guy. Yes so then I have Hannah Gilligan. Right if you played the circle in had to be a catfish What what kind of person would you be? Who've that's hard now? You know the Netflix show The circle where people kind of go into these apartments and they only communicate with other participants via This the circle and they could either be themselves or a catfish so Hannah is saying I gotta be a catfish so i. I don't know this. This is hard girl so you know actually I wanna be. I would be like a middle age older. I wanted to say heavier. Thet Guy Guy that just looks friendly on my photos. I got pictures with me and my cats and I'm smiling. That's the type of Avatar. I would want to because number one I would still be my personality psalmody. Maybe funniest snarky am. I would want my name to be. I want my name to be Alcoa Malcolm Malcolm and like you know I just want them to like fall in love with my personality and you know oversight bid you know dad by guy with cats who don't love cats you you know. We know people love cats. So that's what I would be if I had to catfish somebody will be older handy. Said you know glasses and cats type guy they would like you and be super friendly so they bug mark all we love Malcolm Okay really. I'm a whole snack. Okay what else. We got Harley Mall Man writes Have you watched cheer on. Net flicks is so good and Australia. Actually wrote the same thing so it's so listen purple. Oh Pants posse all be rea- my mind. I swear you're reading my mind so I don't know of anyone else like me. Who watches a million shows? It gets to the point where it's like out of control control so I have a list of shows that I wanNA watch and so I put on a list and so the other day cheer came up on my All my like recommended and it reminded me of this show on USA. Dare me and you guys need to be watching. Meet Su Because listen I've been watching to put that on. The Menu saw off look good so I actually just put it on my list to watch someone to try to get through it or get through a couple of episodes this week and our poor but yes come on Purple Panthers Pisces Battery My mine nine run who rumble underscore pat and bright wrote. I saw that you also love Shrimp Tales. Please tell everyone how good what they are guy. So your normal. You know I'm Budo. I'm boosy and I'm classy. But I love shrimp and sometimes the best part of the trump for me details. I how will pick the tails off APP dot not so earlier this week when me window Deshea Laura Ramona went. Ou- I would've I got I got like some tackles and window got like shrimp and Pasta dish in some anytime anytime I go out with window and he gets from already know what the deal is some Andrew. He put his little tails. And my I forget how strange it looks as people like. Oh my God. Are you really eating them. Yup Listen I grew up with a single mother with four children are right some of US got to shrimp of us. Cuff got details. Okay you gotTa Make It work and my opinion I feel like all the protein in detail. Okay is so good especially if it's like a Sushi. Roll like shrimps. WHO PORA era? Who let me let the whistle? Because you'll get hungry on his diet. 'cause I gotTa slimmed-down you know twenty twenty new me. I'm burning it out. I'M GONNA burn them calories up hold on let me. What the whistle but yes? Don't judge me. I like shrimp tails and I'll be tearing them up. Okay so Lauren. Dot Dot e Dot Stratford Rights Video Queen Poverty posted about king window. Now you know these them forty is coming up okay winners winners at war and so I guess a fan had sent window Somebody ordered a cameo in first of all you know. cameos baby showers weddings on my birthday. Well you know I'm on Cameo so holly Boeing so somebody booked party for a cameo. I guess the basis was like you know they're friends were talking smack about about poverty And you know parties video bet was like telling them why poverty is queen poverty and in the video. She was talking about newer winners like window. Like like what does their resume look like. They don't window might be nice to look at it. He could build good furniture but they don't got nothing on the Queen Poverty Whoo and window posted after his instagram. And you don't me. I had to take the twitter set. Bay Bag you know. See the forty going to be good when they sub tweeting in on cameos. So you guys this puts me. Let me well my whistle. So let me wet the whistle. All this puts me in such a awkward predicament. Because you know. Poverty is one of my top ten players. I love poverty. She's like you know your I love. I love poverty. You know when I was on Kagi on my exit interview that was back when poverty had like the exit interview showed it flew me out to La. I was with poverty. I loved poverty and you know I stand for Queen Poverty Okay. I'm here for it but at the end of the day. Listen when when DC. That's my broader okay. I don't play about my browder. Okay I'll play about my browder when this one I'm going to have to take my brother's side okay. I'm loyal to a fault. Okay and window ain't been nothing but a brother to me so listen without without Poverty Paula. Okay you wore window. Oh you warm with me and listen. That goes to anybody else out there listen. My twitter fingers are ready when the seasons start. y'All come from brother I'm coming at Shaw. I'm reading the comments. Okay I'm protective about my broader. Okay but theory asleep. I Love Poverty but I love you a friendly competition. ooh I cannot in that way I do not know if you are is so excited for winners at war as I am but I am for real for real. I'm Reid with my brother. So was that Harvey pull up. Okay Okay we'll play. We'll play then. Our last purple pants picks come from Bell. One and only Thera- what do you recommend for water bottles and would you spend fifty dollars on hydro flask. Ask who fifty dollars. What about on lifting? Garneau me I'd be on a budget so my favorites water bottles are the new Jonah right but I feel like I am the Jonah water bottles in a Gino in a L G E N e clear water bottles and so I always get like I always had like the thirty two ounces and they come in like bright colors I have like a pink one have a purple one. I've a green one But one of my coworkers. Oh Workers Mike. One day at work he came in with the forty two ounce bottles. I had ordered the off of Amazon so I loved the giant water bottles. They're just like so cute. They're clear it's so funny. Fifty dollars per hydro flask. Now you know my best friend. She's got two children pay in and more than they're my children and you know Peyton is he is is just hurts and he's six one my best friend era. She's really tall. She's like six foot and her fiance king. He's like six four. So you know no date. Children like pay in. He's going to be like six seven so pay in is like so big and so. He's the cutest ever and still for Christmas this year. He wanted like such reasonable things. I'm like I call them stinky but I'm thinking about what do you want for Christmas uncle controller and a hydro flask water bottle autochthonous in a water bottle fat. Listen that controller was twenty dollars. I looked at them. Hydro flask bottles. Fifty dollars I had the texts my best friend day. Ask Ogre or you're going to have to get their word about 'cause I'm not paying. Let's go to five and below. I get them six water bottles from five and below and they have the hydro flask like you know that ten in metal container like a Hydro Flask bub. The fifty dollars so my best friend ended up getting him. Hydro Flask for Christmas but like who. who was the hydro flask? Peyton is really big basketball. He goes to like basketball practice three nights a week. Mind you my baby is going to be a NBA star. And whatever else he wants to be but the at me I am here for you. Know keeping your ice cold your hat task but listen I can get there with regular old water bottle I get five water bottles for five and below and keep accu- okay but you know I looked up reviews or hydro flask and they have nothing but really really really really really good reviews bay. I can't listen fifty dollars. You know how much box Fox one I could give for fifty dollars but I must be a bag off either because I definitely did not get fifty dollars. What about no not today? Not Tomorrow now maybe listen to hydro flask. You WanNa want to send something over to the Purple Pants. podcasts tested outlets that. We could do that but who chalet burned up. We re eighth where that money like dead but no all right. Now we've got a vice with bryce. Here's our advice swift writes this week. Who is a really good one? It says a baby boy. My Name's Mike. I don't need to be anonymous because the vice I'm asking for is for my brother Joe. We are first generation Italians in our father and his entire family resides in Italy. I've traveled there with my father's several times. But my brother has not. This side of the family has never met. My brother only seen them via photos. The the issue comes in with my brother being afraid to fly which I understand but I feel. He's letting his fear cripple great life experiences he could have. He refuses assist to travel anywhere for fear. Something might go wrong. Our Dad is getting up there in age. So the opportunity for my brother to have this experience will not be available much longer and I feel my brother will regret it. If he never gets the chance to meet this side of the family at least once they only they speak no English and my brother. And I don't speak Talion so I ask you this. How do you advise getting over fears? That may be in the way of living your life. Thanks price as a POW proud member of the Purple Pants. Passy I would appreciate any insight you might give Mike well. Thank you Mike for the question. I think scree and Joe since I know Joe listened. Listen to the PODCAST. I will speak directly to you So I think your brother is the right and I feel like you are missing out on life life however you know me someone in the mental health field I definitely can relate to fears and you know not wanting to travel out of the fear of something going on. We live in a crazy world. But what I was saying to you is that anything can go wrong. I know that you guys have a bowling alley Out something will go wrong long at the bowling alley like anything can happen anywhere. So you can't let that stop you from living your life And what I would say to you is that this has to come. I'm from some type of trauma whether being your childhood or something and so what I would encourage you to do. Joe Is to maybe speak with somebody like you know a friend friend a counselor a mental health professional to kind of figure out where this like anxiousness comes from of you thinking that something's going wrong And you know I I know you guys love survivor and the game survival. How do you think those people feel like traveling? The unknown not knowing who you're playing with traveling across the world to play and survivor you Kinda on a happy face your fears and so I think that it's important and definitely like you know what your family and your dad and getting to meet the other side of your family is super important in those memories. Are Some memory that you can take on like when Mary to your children. If you decide to have children or just stories that you can tell so I definitely agree with your brother then. It's something that I feel like you should do. However you have to be ready to do this so I feel like if you talk to a therapist our friend and really kind of like you know another good thing That I always skit sometimes gangster. Garvey is always on me about writing things down like write it down as to what you are actually scared of Because obviously it's something from stopping stopping you. Obviously I know you deeply care for your family and you love your family and you want to be there for them. I think that it's important for us so like you know work on ourselves. You Know Me. I'm on a roll for a better. Bryce Bryce and so I think that you should be on the road as well to a road for a better joe and kind of working on. What is stopping you from? Like you know traveling anywhere like the You Know Oh me I had the travel bug I love to get up and go and you know sometimes I do get nervous about traveling. International like something could happen but hey at the way I look at it. As if that's how I'm going to go I rather go doing something something that I love. And you know the world is so big and that's the one thing that I love. Is that like when I travel. I'm always like Oh my God like like the world is so oh biggest got so much opportunity got so much like people live so much different than us in it gives you a greater appreciation for a home. It like you grow as a person and so yeah I definitely would say take the time to write out. Actually you're actually scared of and talk that over with somebody because in reality I really feel like that you will be able able to face your fears but you have to be ready. You know I can't push you to your brother can't push you that's something they you've gotta work on. So I challenge you joe in twenty twenty twenty this year to conquer your fears and you know. Listen if you're you're you're flying and you know statistically you are more likely to get into a car crashed in a plane crash now a baby when you travel international. Listen you get free wine. Listen Zanex you know if you meet with a counselor you can tell them like. Hey I I I am nervous of flying maybe they can prescribe you like a low doses of ZANEX and listen to one thing about ZANEX. It will put you out take Zanex you go to sleep. I just Google Ooh how far from Philadelphia to Italy is about seven hours and fifty five minutes. That's a worship eight hours. You can get a red. I go to sleep and you be there. You drink some bottle of wine. Take US X.. Book go to sleep get you a little sleeping pill go to sleep and you'll be able to experience and I guarantee you the experience. ESPN so outweigh your fears. But I am so sympathetic to you. Know there's so many things in life that I'm scared of and there's so many things that I don't WanNa do and sometimes it holds me back so I definitely can relate to you on the however what I can say is the amount of times that I've conquered my fear or done something that I was scared of. Even this podcast. I was scared to podcast. I was scared of failure. I was scared. No listen to me no all WanNa hear what I would have to say. Who wants to hear what the third boot from cod gone has to say but I took a leap of faith and I went out there and and look the purple pants? PODCAST is out here popping and I guarantee you if something you know God forbid anything. Were to happen for your dad like. I'm sure that will be something that you will regret. And Yeah definitely. Don't want you to leave your life with regrets. Twenty we burn up those fears in so I challenge you to like you know and start some ause take a road. Ultra with you and your brother. It's great that you've got a brother that cares about you and support you take a road trip you start off small and then like you know or maybe even take a small a plane trip somewhere our rise so that you can get the feel flying spun. I like it. It got a low humming noise. I put you right to sleep. Let's say I love flying international okay. where's the wine? Okay semi low sleeping pill boop out like a light and trust me but I know that it's definitely hard so you just have to like you know. Try to face your fear but I I really feel like it starts with like you going back to put. Is they're trauma in my life and it comes from some self reflection some open and honest Self reflection of what's this trauma here that I'm so scared of and then you know writing down which are scared of and then for everything that you're scared of right four four things to each thing that you're scared of of how that you could overcome or or what. The positive would be of overcoming which was scared of and I guarantee you Joe Joe the the the greater the positive will so outweigh the negative. But listen you know me I. I'm a checkup on you. I'm facetime you won't say what's up because we we WANNA conversation as well too. 'cause I really WanNa know so when you hear this advice low breath I want you to me and we want to set up a time so that we can facetime and talk because I really want you to get. I want you to be the best joe that you can be and twenty twenty year. We're not leading anxiety. We're not letting depression stop us. Like listen we go to Canada so we we doing this together okay. Purple Pants listen. If any of you guys know Joe I need for you guys to stay home. Some positive affirmations I need for you guys to get up on him and let him know that it's is going to be a right but there's a huge world out there there's amazing people out there. You never know the love your life could be over there and so you just have to take that first step and I know that it's Har- Melissa here here at the Purple Pants Posse. We got shoe baby boy. So listen don't worry about it and we will be context okay. So that's our advice. That was a good one all right. So here's another segment that I'm introducing to the Purple Pants. PODCAST my list. I Dunno if your parents are like this but my mom will instagram. I'm on facebook. Look and every morning my mom sends you know everyone. We don't have a family group chair because everybody does a story for another story but my among thins individual messages to you know my sister my aunts. My uncles of like little positive means like you know she posted on facebook or her story child. My mom knows how to make the story now so she posted stories. Okay when they'll be texting me that God. I really loved your Mom's message today. I don't don't feed into that but I really do love it because because like I said I've been like you know go into my own battle. These last couple of weeks in the messages that my management sending me has been like amazing Aztecs bar girl. I need you on appropriate Pakistan. Yeah she was righty so every other week I WANNA do a barbs message so this week here we are. Here's barbs message hi. This is as miss barb braces mom. So every day I send to my son's close friends and family affirmations to encourage purfleet early brighten their day with this mine. Braces asked me to share the same with his purple pants. podcast listeners so listeners listen up no matter how you feel I want you to get up dress up show show up and never never give up. I hope this encourages someone by all right. Thanks bye for barbs message. And so I'm going to bring that to you by weekly a little positive information from my mom misbah barred from philly not to be confused with barred from the Mid West and eh before we close out you know. We can't conclude podcast without the freak of the week. And so this could a week. You Know Jim Russo. You know the rap Patriot himself so sent me a little demo was like a nominated. This guy for free could a week. Now listen if you guys are watching the circle on net flicks you know. We have a new character on there. His his name is Ed. Okay and I listen. I looked at mind you Jim semi afford Asu. Okay yet. Stimulus shirtless photo from from twenty. Two thousand seventeen but on ED's instagram which is dead six ten underscore. He got this video of him jumping Offer of his car doing a backflip. Now Bay don't hurt yourself but we're just so weird is a about the Jed Jed Jed Jed Bush is going on and it's from the Philly area he's from conshohocken and at my old job where he is doing his backflip off of his trump. I know where I used to drive by there every day. Okay baby boy. So yes you will see that video of Ed jumping off the back of his not the bank but doing a backflip off the roof his trunk okay. He'd a freak a week at six zero underscore. You'll know what to do that. I'm not oh he freak out a week this week baby boy and I just thought in them. DMZ what's up. I'm from Philly. He's like what's up another philly boy and I did invite him to window and is Premier Amir Party of when that war so fingers crossed. Ed will come a mixture. y'All let him know he'd a freak of the week and this is going to conclude this week's episode of the Purple Pants Podcast atk cast. If you are new listener. Welcome you are now. We go to get the I need you to subscribe. 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Am To noon eastern on Sirius sex him fifty six welcome to the bust it open podcast this is David Greco on today's episode wwe we all the fame of the world's strongest man Mark Henry joins me as we talk about a mazing smackdown mark from Friday night there was so much much that we had to talk about talk about the drama and the not knowing and the new things that happen unbelievable and of course because of the travel aval issues out in Saudi Arabia Annex t dominated on Friday night and speaking of travel issues again we don't know what we're GonNa see on Monday night raw but the talk about that and that Talia joins us here in Studio to talk about Roy Tonight and of course what happened at Crown Jewel in Saudi Arabia maybe one of the most important things that happen happen dance in Saudi Arabia Win Talion Lacey the women's division it is doing things that we always expected out of them but we get to see the first time that two women in the squared circle Saudi Arabia and we give love to 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Colombo and not only that but Colombo's one of those that he didn't take the easy way out he wanted to harm his cases and right now among the mystery of what happened at Crown Jewel is very mystery like I mean it's it's is so much going on I I don't know where to start date I shall we start with the negative should we start with the positive well here's here's the thing and may we may need Colombo but Colombo passed away so we're not gonNA get Colombo to try to figure out what's going on we love him he's hanging out with peppy Lapierre Colombo right now so yeah bless his heart but we're gonNA need somebody like Colombo to kind of figure this out and and listen there's a lot a lot of positive and we're GONNA I mean this show is going to be extremely positive 'cause no matter what happened in Saudi what we got is probably the best smackdown down you mentioned ten year probably the best smackdown in over a decade this is probably the best smackdown I remember since Siham Peng beat Jeff Hardy in the cage to retain the w the world heavyweight championship after Summer Slam in August of two thousand and nine that's probably how far you have to go back to find this show that was better than the one we saw this past Friday Dave I couldn't sleep I had trouble sleeping I kept I'm thinking about wrestling and then in the middle of the night at three o'clock I went and watched I wouldn't watch the show over again yeah three o'clock this morning no say boy you know on Friday okay like I had to watch it again and you know of course I can fast through the commercials also a lot easier but I was just as excited and I kept replaying there were three things that I I just I just couldn't take my eyes off I thought that it was it was quality television Bianca Bel Air there was Lupin as like somebody's stole her dog and it was a modeling it looked like the police should have been called and the interview would Sammy Zane we're forgive when keenly and and Matt Riddle walked up on him was very entertaining semi Zane is also as a man the way that he was selling was it was like watching poetry he he's special and watching in Daniel Bryan and Adam Cole in a thirty minute old school wrestling match that was not not sports entertainment that was that was nothing watered down about it there's no fan that even even damn eighty www haters those fans will call in the gay and go hey then Adam Cole Daniel brand match was fire it was mark you're so right from top to bottom fantastic show and I'll even throw this in our good friend Pat McAfee on commentary which tremendous Indus tremendous applause ladies and gentlemen mccafe Dami was good have you aside Jim Ross I have been excited to hear somebody make a call wow Michael Cole so one of the best setup men in announcing history he could set it up like nobody's business pat McAfee was colorful he was funny he was insightful and he you could tell tailed that he is a fan that he's passionate it was like if they let you and I make a call see if me and you own the commentary we probably get kicked forecast because we'd be talking about Colombo the God yes but you know what Pat McAfee did as well is that he was a cheerleader for annex t like at the end of that show when triple h was in that ring with the annex t that the annex t wrestlers that were there that night and they all kind of piled into ring to end that show Pat McAfee ran into the ring to that's what made it so special because it did feel like ah true takeover that's why you needed Pat McAfee on commentary and to me Pat McAfee at the moment tonight when Stephanie McMahon came came out and he she's she's you know waving a triple agent throwing them kisses and say hi baby and then they they had a triple eight and right behind him was back-back affi waving back. Stephanie Mcmahon a the guy you're talking to me he's a nut man I'm done the I love him and we know Pat you know Pat Pretty well yeah that's Pat McAfee like David asked Pat McAfee to do any he's truly truly nuts like he's a nutcase okay of course is is like you know you know the best nuts in we're always takes back to food but the best nuts autos honey roasted mixed nuts they saw the sweet pat magazine he is honey roasted that he's sweet he's delicious he's awesome there's nothing negative about it there's no I all of them does not one you pick around the mixed nuts like am I going to eat the hazelnuts not gonna eat the macadamia nuts pass McKenna macking like some Atkins all of it I want I mean all of it Oh Pat Mak of his Asia now again best Mac down in ten years the best show of the week you know we we're always talking about what was the best show two week was exte- was at eight e w well I think we can all say that the best show this past last week was Friday night smackdown the best show that they've had since they moved the Fox for sure and again all this happened mark because because of the incident that happened in Saudi on Halloween they had the show in Saudi Arabia and I mean it depends on who you believe the wwe released the statement that said it was mechanical issues Dave Meltzer has got several reports about what he feels happened to hold up that plane Yugoslavia Vich did a facebook live about what he thought from talking to somebody out and relationships that he has with people still with the wwe about what what was happening so a lot of rumors mark when it comes to what truly happened after crown jewel on Halloween. Yeah and that's why I'm saying about the drama we need a special detective to sort out the bull crap and was real because I don't know I don't have all the facts I refuse to sit here and comment on what I don't know but what I will say is is if there's any validity to what was said if I was a talent and I was willing to go over and do my business and and do my work and do what was required me as an employee I would feel slighted if if what they're saying is true and then maybe I would be like Daniel Br i May b-be Daniel Bryan and John Cena and Kevin Owens and whoever else said they didn't Wanna ago I would I would be on that bandwagon I'll be like well I'm not going to I don't feel safe I don't feel like I've been respected whatever that's if if if that's the case then that's how I feel and I wouldn't blame you for that so to really kind of fill in the nation if they haven't heard and now this is coming coming from Dave meltzer about what took place right after Saudi Arabia obviously WWe reported that there was a malfunction with the plane there was mechanical issues and it couldn't lift left off they were they're stuck for a full twenty four hours before they finally landed at JFK on Friday mark so obviously not able to be apart of what took place on smackdown and again we got the annex t doing a great job for smackdown Friday night but Dave Meltzer reported that the WWE was not paid for the previous Saudi show. Now that's show that took place on Halloween was supposed to air live in Saudi it sounds like Vince McMahon Kinda pull the plug they got a sixty million dollar payment just before the start of the Saudi show so wound up being on a forty five minute delay for the people there in Saudi then supposedly the Saudi Saudi Arabia maybe the the government who knows where upset maybe kind of put the Kabosh on them being able to fly outright after the show now there were some wwe talent including Vince McMahon including brock listener rick flair Hogan Jimmy Hart Brock lesson that we're able to leave right after the show Tyson fury also able to leave we've right after the show because they had their own private aircraft that was sending out of Saudi Arabia not like the rest of the crew and then I'll save even if do you have your own private ask Air airplane you still have to fly out of their airport under the air air traffic control so if the government says nobody's flying out nobody's flying out I just just can't get that I that's one of the things that somebody smarter than me and more knowledgeable and more have more Intel and understanding would have to say how could Vince and the other planes get out and then that plane I get out is it because it was commercial and is different make like somebody enlighten me I I need I need enlightenment and maybe it's a different run it could be a completely I don't know it could be a completely different runway then a a lot of people are saying like how could they leave while the rest of the employees can't from what I hear their aircraft's left much earlier so you know it's not like Vince McMahon just left his employees there to rot as he went home safely it sounds like his aircraft left and because there's a lot of speculation that he laughed and just just left the employees there yeah why paint the picture of somebody as being in why would somebody be the as negative and say something like that without any validity to it I mean you you is going to have to come out that there's supreme knowledge about this being a real thing for me to be like okay why would you leave everybody that that will be hard for me if that was the case but I just don't believe that I just don't believe it it's gotTa be proven to me you know who we need we we need the investigators that found Jericho's built we need that you think those body they were good did they were fishing they got they got the news out in less than twenty four hours and here we are still in suspense I don't want to be in the dark well I mean again these are feel about dark blue nine oh he gets scared I get it now Dave meltzer saying like Vince McMahon did it no he wouldn't have left if he would have known there's a lot of speculation all I know is that tension is very very high right now in the WWe Tau not happy can't blame them they're stuck there for twenty four hours without any kind of direction the boss is gone there there there he's not so I can understand as being a tense situation but again and we don't know all the facts these are just rumors and in the window so I can't really report like and point fingers of WHO's to blame I don't know what's true and what's not I mean they had they're fiscal quarter press conference or I shouldn't say press conference a conference call at the end of last week and I know that they didn't mention the last Saudi Audi's show in that so I do believe that probably money was owed from that last show now whether they pulled the plug on the on the airline leaving giving who knows until we find out facts it's really hard for us to come on the air and talk about something that we really don't know is either a fact or rumor I just can't see this okay if you were seventy billion dollars what is five hundred million dollars peanuts nothing was nothing but it's it's nothing I it's hard for me to let's say five hundred you have your Amex card and you can run that Amex I mean you could put a fifty thousand dollars on 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gotTa stop getting you just getting better looking every time the great voice I'm using my wife was in she said an Italian just look at her she just looked so so-so glowing I'm really happy to tell her that this is your most it's the moisturizer but you know what I'm feeling so happy in my life I feel happy with my career and my relationship with my my work is good home is good like when things are good you just I have to embrace it he did it because life throws curves mark and I know all about those I hello now but you have to be glowing especially after last week we've talked about it a lot here on the show and and just the emotion and I watched it with my wife and my daughter and just seeing you get emotional as you're coming down the enter tramp to be invited I was crying for even left left gorilla I mean we were I was like I almost felt like I was like just overwhelmed with emotion because I knew that I knew that this match was bigger figured the knee I knew it was bigger than lacey new is bigger than wwe there was nothing like this that the women and wwe have ever done before and like mark said the magnitude of being the I the experience was just transcending it was four little girls and women everywhere the that have had a dream and that we got to open doors that have never been opened even before that was just overflowing in my heart nattiest was there a point in saying today you know off the air as well as before before you came on the implications of what you did and Lacey did with the wwe they're very likely in fifteen to eighteen years there'd be a young girl that was sitting in that audience that we'll be a professional wrestler and the when she when the microphone gets to her and she gets her time to shine her fifteen minutes and she says I was a little kid in a crowd that Sauna talion Lacey Evans and that's why I exist in this business a day how how you gonNa feel I'm going to feel so incredibly inspired because that's the way I felt walking out to the ring and just just to me that's what life is all about that's why that feeling was transcending wasn't this is more than just wrestling in about moments creating moments the moments are what lasts forever not the championships not not the goal I mean granted listen I'll take a couple of championships I can get them but it's it's about the moments it's about the way people people make you feel and to be able to inspire little girls I was so inspired walking down that ramp and I was almost so overwhelmed with emotion that I I I almost felt like I couldn't deal like my legs when I was walking down down to the ring it was a surreal almost out of body experience they felt like I literally was talking to my dad add before I walked down the right when I was gorilla I always have a few people that I talked to I always talk to my dad now and my dad I know he has my back can I felt like in that moment he was with me too you know and he was he was there he was like he was part of like all the stars align that made this this moment for lacy and I feel like my dad had a little hand in like every star perfectly aligning for us and when I was go ahead no I'm sorry because I I was just GonNa say mark that when I saw you coming down that entrance ramp at Crown Jewel and I saw the emotion your eyes and the ears if I felt good in a way that she is living in the moment and Italian because we're big fans if obviously you know the show and we're big fans so a lot of times big moments like that that you don't think about it until the moments long gone and then you look back at it but the fact that you were able to embrace it while it was taking place and not just you could tell Lacey Evans ends was as well I I felt so good for you that you're able to live in that moment and really experience it and understand the significance as it was happening yeah you have to like like I said life is about moments in little like I can I just don't know what else in my career will ever replace the specialness of that moment that memory and how how impactful it was like mark said for for years down the road to be able to have somebody one day a little girl that says I wanted to do this because you know think about the first ever Saudi Arabian female superstar coming. WWe Wannabe ridiculous and it's going to happen yeah so it's just being able to being able to transcend so it's to me I just felt like I I'm so grateful that I was part of incredible change now I would have I would would be remiss if I didn't mention how I'm I know the rules of the country and the attire that Jao how ward to the rain were in respect to their rules and their laws and you have to do that and also the wrestling style like I saw difference in the wrestling style you lacey both y'all wrestle more you you you show respect each other when normally that's that probably wouldn't have been the case when you're in your normal work mode it was it it would be you and Lacey at odds and that was not the case and was it the idea of the company company or was that something that was required of you guys well let me say this before you even answer that because that's actually a great question and that's you're the first first person that's pointed that out I have different respect for Lacey Evans after this week because before like even when I started working with her there was moments where shoot kinda get under my skin or get on my nerves and it just because she was new and she was of course I'm always going to help everybody out but she grew on me so much in the last couple of months and then this last week she just showed me a different side of her that I never knew existed in my first coach in wrestling doctor Tom Prichard said sometimes people brought into your life for a reason and I feel like lacy was definitely brought to my life for a reason and before we went out I said to Lacey Lacey very much likes to play bad girl role and delay said remember tonight is not about good versus bad add tonight is about respect athleticism and introducing dipping our foot in the pond and introducing the Saudi Arabian audience of what we do. We WanNa make such a good impression that we can have a women's battle royal here we can have the first ever women's championship match here we WanNa make a good impression in but we need to tread carefully and slowly because this is the first time that they've ever seen a women's wrestling match so let's worry about our characters on another night in let's let's wrestled tonight and make it about respect let's not make it about good versus bad let's give them a wrestling match that they're going to remember and something they're going to be so entertained by and so that's what we did it was really so much about respect even the costumes were going into another country we have to respect their culture and Lacey Evans can change your your at Nassau Coliseum tonight for Monday night raw there arse tickets still available so go to WWe Dot Com again at the Nas Oh veterans memorial coliseum for Monday night raw and Lee Evans can come out on raw tonight and get right back into actor just before it so it's great that you're able to discount it suspended for a while for something that you knew it was going to be his that night that's what the story was about in for me like I didn't think or care for one second oh my gosh I have to wear this t shirt over a big bodysuit to me to get the chance and the opportunity to wrestle and Saudi Arabia where wwe me has done over forty shows in the Middle East we have and you mark you probably remember one of the most iconic pictures of Owen and the rock on the camel they were on camel's in the Middle East thinking back like my family is as wrestled over in the Middle East and don show's here I wanna be a WanNa continue to carry on that legacy for myself for for women for women around the world and again to open doors that have never been opened before so yes we can always do good versus bad but there is something to be said about respect and I think I feel like we we had a really cool story I'm glad that Y'all had effect on that and not just be a mandate a that that happened because we as much as we deal with positive we also deal with the negative is unfortunate that we have to but we do and I feel an heard no negative zero for the first time in my life dealing with a pro wrestling there was no negative energy about the match I I was just in shock I was waiting nine here come somebody's going to say some negative and here we are in another week and still nothing negative the caller lawyer the last caller we took before you came on he said man that was so inspiring it was so incredible aw that I had tears in my eyes because I knew how good that was a women's wrestling and for that country that that was the Colorado Day by L. so like very easily and they wore too many clothes they didn't look like they normally look they didn't act like they normally ah none of it got none of it and I'm just happy for you I'm happy for you lace I'm happy for the Women's Movement I'm happy for what went on in Saudi Arabia you for the Saudi Arabian people as well as the women in that country I treated so well over there I mean from the from the men the women the children I mean the food mood was amazing it was so clean and the food was listen I've never had promised like Saudi Arabian Hamas It was the Hamas was amazing using I mean it was just like the women I can't tell you how many men walked up to me and said your family is so inspiring me Bret Hart was my favorite growing up and I sent Brat like a screen shot from somebody that had tweeted me that that was from Saudi Arabia saying your uncle was like is the reason why I love wwe w. e. and like people were just sending me so much love I felt so loved so embraced it's funny 'cause Lacey already wwe was ready Saudi Arabia was was ready the world was ready it was a perfect storm of readiness yeah I think I think about the the this is awesome chance that were happening waiting so I'm sure you're you're probably butterflies going into how to fans going to react and then the here those this is awesome chance I mean I had my biggest fear in any country I wrestle in any place in any any city state or country that I'm always afraid that no one's GonNa react so when like you get a reaction like the one that we got in Saudi Arabia you run with it you just take the ball and run with it and like it just felt so good even afterwards I said the lacy before we went out and I said let's walk up the ramp together like I want I don't care that I want I want us to celebrate this together like you and me both one and we got out of the ring and like all of a sudden the people were just trying to like hug us in this woman in the front row people keep asking me who that woman that hugged you guys it was just a woman that was sitting in the front row that just wanted to be hug and so we just hugged everybody almost like becoming another another match with us just hugging people in the front row because that's how big in great everybody was afterwards that's how much love we got married I was so wrong I was so wrong and I I'm quickly admit when I'm wrong my son Jacob he said my wife Said who's that woman and Jacobs said that's just a fan and I was like Nah she hugged like she knew her and she she must work for the company there's something and here you are just put an egg in my face look you around Mark Art Jacobs said that was an emotional hug that he she didn't know her yes she just was a fan right even when I walked down the right right before it got in the ring I decided to take my cat ears off and then I didn't WanNa put them on the girls had because I didn't want to take liberties but handed them to the girl sitting front row and then she put the monarch head and more than the whole night and like every time I kinda got I like looking at her and she had my cat ears on I'm like you know what wrestling speaks a universal language edged wwe we're we're in over one hundred eighty countries around the world twenty eight languages wrestling brings people together we create moments and memories. It's so funny you you mentioned the cat ears I told my wife that you're going to be in studio today and she was like well make sure you talk about the cat make sure you tell her about and I was like come on there's so much more to talk about going back I got five cats they're they're good they're spoiled to pause as one hundred sixty one thousand followers on instagram a put Sarah Logan blocked him on instagram so he's been staying wow he's run the NAM Cat Sarah Logan I wanna go on the record and say Sir I'm so disappointed in Sarah Logan evil she blocked Mike Catt who's never done a damn thing to her I I don't know and I'm just honesty I'm a little pissed off about it too honestly he's been in therapy ever since he's definitely does people block you you know you think they're a fan and lead relationship and then you get locked I know it was like I remember when Braun Strowman for start falling volley to pause it was like the greatest day so he gets bronze following them one moment and then to then Sarah Logan blocking the next we were just so devastated now I know that eventually in the next couple of weeks there's going to be a match between sal again tonight the way I can't wait to Wrestle Sarah Logan Raw I had a match with her she will kick ass but she this girl's good there's a couple of dark horses right now in WWe vw e that I think are really Sarah Logan live Morgan Danny Brooke I think those are three that we really need to watch out for those girls are definitely ready to make some waves well I was going to say to you too because the way mark and I started today's show we're talking about smackdown from Friday and obviously annex t took over smackdown act down Friday night you you better watch your back tonight I know Shane of Basil may come out there who knows what's going to happen luckily I keep my friends close and my enemies closer because casino actually a really good friend of mine she trained together before wwe so I've always had with every by no I'm like a little social butterfly but I love I love Shayna unlike before my big match with Charlotte Flare Two thousand two thousand fourteen at that takeover I trained with JANA for a couple of days private petty you really should watch out for Bianca Bel Air Oh wait to work with you see the whooping as she handed out dead I she's she's got it Bianca Rea- Shayna like I thought I thought that smackdown was awesome win situations happen that it almost looks like a blessing in disguise because it gave us something totally different than we didn't expect but Bianca has such a presence feel like she is she's got such a total total package she's got something that can't be taught it's one thing to learn headlock or dropkick it's another thing to have that kind of backer that she has she has very special about about her that to me is she's beautiful but she's strong she's fierce she can play any role that she's thrown into and she also she's not afraid to be a little vulnerable horrible which I saw that in her match with Shayna wwe a really good place coming out of that too because you think about it maybe a lot of people people didn't know the superstars had a chance to see them on Wednesday night and then you get like you said like he kind of fall into it wasn't supposed to happen that wasn't what the show was supposed to be on Friday and it turned out to be a home run probably a Grand Slam and now more people are going to have is on exte- after they saw it as mark knows and w w either is never a dull moment in the company it's always something exciting that's how like all of a stay young because you look at like I mean I can't there's never a dull moment here here we got Monday for Raw Tuesday total divas Wednesday we got two shows on Wednesday we got Friday smackdown we've got pay per views that annexed he uk there there's so much good good wrestling on right now not just with wwe but like even independent wrestling like I watch you know my husband and I teach I used to wrestle Japan we follow we follow that too we follow Oh everything because we love wrestling so it's a great time to be a wrestler it's a great time to be kicking ass and I hope to do so tonight at the Nassau Coliseum where actually tonight is where evolution to place that's right that I'm so glad that you mentioned total divas because I own Gabby does a segment called diva on divas our and we she actually breaks down what went on Tom on total divas to our new this is new new segment tie fan base and Dave and I have watched episodes total divas when we never did before so it's like is real cool to see how this works and I'm wondering do you have the acting bug is that's something that you would you would pursue once wrestling is over you you just a wrestler and I'm just going to Russ that's a great question I think for me people say oh you're so good in the ring you should be a coach you should be a producer but the truth of the matter is is that not everybody's meant to do that and I feel like for me I'm not I just feel like I have kind of like the personality like my dad where I I like I like being in front of the camera I like to speak to be heard I like to I like to I really love being in front of people and I love communicating and like I feel like I will always have a role like in some way that I like being on film I like being on TV. I love being an entertainment so I would love to get into acting I would love to do movies as I would love to even do what renee young is doing I'm so excited for them this week their debut asked age I think it's Tuesday night on F s one so so the first one given a cheap plug Rene Booker T. Plug but it's eleven pm so I'm excited to watch Rene Booker do their thing but like Rene to me is somebody that's such a role model because she is she's never changed who she is inside she's very genuine she's very authentic she's very relatable but she's also oh you know not afraid to be yourself we make mistakes even you know she had talked or tweeted a couple of weeks ago that she wasn't she she somebody had made a comment about her not being good on commentary and she said Look Doc I'm learning I'm I'm working at it I'm trying the best that I can and I thought you know what that was so powerful for her to say that because we're all human were all everybody is just shoot a gun defensive Sir yeah and sounded like a B but she didn't she came across you took the high road and she's right she's he's trying guys like it's not like she's done this whole life like that it's been in the rain since she was an infant I really how's that she was able to crow putting hip hop body slam we had a wrestling ring in our backyard. So I've been doing it for a long time I remember it and wring out in the Front Yard House Yep and I I remember y'all being real little kids and when I say look at me like five six years old kids so it's been a long time and and I'm just happy to say I was able to know you that long and did you ever see Mark Martin I did yeah I babysat the kids I cooked for the kids is breadth Austin broke a plate one night because I said we're all going to wash dishes together together we made this assembly line and he was supposed to dry and hand the plate so that we can put it on Iraq slam the damn camp laid on the floor cracker there because he didn't want to do it I made him clean that should go get a broom thirds weeping that glass like resume man like don't take no shit off don't put me in charge you you want me to really be in charge the red eye threatening to spank them and everything maybe get spank mark martyrs because right though he's markers like an honorary member of the family he's got a very special relationship with Brett who had a very special relationship with owing he's he's he's like an honorary member of the family and we don't you know we're not always accepting of everybody so you you've been there through the good and the bad and everything in between so we we love you mark I just don't personality Miss Ross Ross Ross made me get my first my uncle Ross actually was one of my first wrestling teachers he wanted me to get this costume that looked like Kurt Angle's singlet and I was like Ross I'm a girl like it was hideous cost a single uncle my uncle Ross is like a high school principal also granted I was covered up but everything was covered up like this not the guys don't realize fashion woman back if he shows up on com go everybody on commentaries got suits up features which shorts and sleeveless shirt jack against everybody's got March that's true again Monday night raw tonight at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum there's still a few tickets available go to WWe DOT COM and it's amazing the tally I mean you're you're in Saudi and you know all the stuff getting added air your like now you're in New York how do you get to sleep in my bed after all that I I you buddy as you get condition to it mark knows you just kind of get used to it and and one of the reasons why we can do you it is because like even with with you know that long trip home it was like fourteen hour flight like we're all together it was a fourteen hour flight but like there's nobody I'd rather be having fun with my friends friends from wwe like my husband didn't come family they are family like we all drive each other crazy but we all love each other and we all it's it's really a brotherhood Sisterhood Hood and and so that's how we do it it's like I'm so excited to get to raw today and see all the girls except for coronal marcus very snippy in how we all WanNa choke you no I don't mark as one of the hardest jobs in the whole company he's got so much to take care of man I feel sorry for that do lose his listened to ninety all actually with an x t now there's like a hundred and thirty people that call him every day day can

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Season 10 Episode 9: Love is Blind Part 1

Dateable Podcast

55:45 min | 6 months ago

Season 10 Episode 9: Love is Blind Part 1

"The Dateable podcast is an insider's look into modern dating that the Huffington post calls one of the top ten podcast about love and sex. On each episode, we'll talk to real daters about. From sex parties to sex droughts, date fails a diaper fetishes and first moves to first loves. I'm your host Yue Xu, former dating coach turned dating sociologists. You also hear from my co host and producer Julie Krafchick as we explored this crazy dateable world. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of dateable a show all about modern dating. There's been so much talk around a show on net flicks for the last few months and it's called. Love is blind and Julie. I think you're the one that turned me onto the show at first. But it's quite an interesting dating experiment ally. God Yes and I'm not actually a reality. Tv Per said which is yours apprising. You're like the Bachelor nation type of the two of us. Yeah and you always laugh at me whenever I talk about the bachelor exactly but I was so into this and I don't remember either friend that you've got to watch it and I just couldn't stop watching for anyone. I think most people are pretty aware of the show by now. But if you haven't seen it yet. Basically the concept is that it takes a bunch of singles Took place in Atlanta Georgia. And they were all in what they call pods where they basically couldn't see the people that they were dating and it was all through phone calls which is kind of ironic now all in our own pods at our homes in quarantine at the moment. So there's been like memes out there that Netflix was basically like predicting the future of dating with Corona virus. Will the crazy thing about that? Show is user strangers and they're living in a house and they're talking to people of the opposite sex through these pods without ever seeing them but then a bunch of them end up getting engaged by the end and falling in love. So they're trying to prove this point. That love is blind to at and that you fall in love with the person the personality and not so much the physicality so because of the show and talk about funny timing all happened before cove in nineteen hit and so we thought of this idea of repurposing this show for own experiment where we would set up one guy with three girls where he would get to talk to all three of them every night for thirty minutes each person for three nights in a row and we did not make him propose. That was a big caveat. I think we'd a couple different roles on the show had for a couple of reasons. One basically at the end of the three calls he just had to ask one on a date. Like we weren't GONNA BE KIM. Propose marriage the other thing difference wise. We did not reveal names and race in any capacity. I don't think they actually revealed race on. Love is blind but a few people commented because of people's names like what their race was so it gave away some of that and then age also another piece that we did not want to put that into the equation because in love is blind. People Probably Remember Jessica and Mark That Cup fall and she was really hung up on the fact that he was like twenty. Four or something Age into the mix and we did not WANNA put race into the mix at all. Yeah and we chose someone who was so gung Ho about this. I'm down I want my name. I'm going to tell the my age or anything about me down to meet three women that I've never met before all over the phone and his name is Ryan and he was such a good sport. He did this entire experiment for us. And we're still at a cliffhanger moment because he's chosen the woman that he wants to go on a date with but right now for this episode will reveal the impressions of each other. That women have him and he had the women. Yeah before I get into just kind of that reveal. I think it's funny to call out just like the amount of people that wanted to participate at this was Z. Like we put up on instagram. Just asking for people that were interested in the amount of emails we got was like off the chain. So we're definitely going to be doing more of these the future for sure. Yes Oh for anyone interested. You can just reach out to us. We already have a whole list going but it doesn't mean that you won't get on the list. Just keep this as like a rolling experiment. Yeah and one other plug. If you WANNA stay connected potentially get on. Other experiments is we. Have this really awesome. Facebook group that just started. It's called love in the time of Corona. We told you about it last week. We got a bunch of people requesting to join which is Great. But I don't know about you but I've just been so excited about just the activity in the group unless people really giving each other like a sense of community during this time like hosts about dating apps not being as active as they've heard and people just like really replied pacwest some interesting insights and just also like giving people ideas of things to do to stay sane during this time. Yeah I just love the positivity of the group. It's not so much about a place to common bitch happening right now. It's more just coming together and sharing ideas. We had one member who commented that she's tie-dying her shirts this weekend. I'm like that's a fantastic idea. It's it's lovely. It's just like it's definitely just restarted. My creative juices wildly and I love to the people are like inviting each other to like virtual happy hour. Isn't one guys like let's do this truth or drink event like if? I buy the game like our people down and like so many people were all about it and by the way I had no idea that was a game. He was just going to start a game called truth or drink. I like that as brilliant. I am so totally down so out of it. So people need to get on the facebook group if your dot there yet is freaking awesome. And I'm so excited it's keeping me sane during this time for sure in speaking of keeping saying before we get to this episode. I do WANNA say huge. Thanks to our sponsor empower who is also helping others save up and get through this financial crisis. Time empowers an APP where you can use auto save so basically you just establish a weekly savings target and empower while steady your income and spending in automatically know when to move the right amount of money into your savings account so that you don't have to think about money being taken away from you. It's more likely money's just growing in your savings accounts like magic. Yeah we talked about it last week to. I think right now where. A lot of us aren't spending a lot of money. I mean we're spending it on food but we're not spending it on the every day. So especially with like the looming economic recession like it is a great time to start taking that money and put it into savings. So where can people find in power so they can go to the APP store or the play store and just download the APP? It's spelled E. M. p. o. w. e. r. over six hundred and fifty thousand other people probably more by now have downloaded it and for our listeners. Only Yuga five dollars deposited into your account. When you use the offer code dateable just go to empower dot meets Slash D. A. T. e. a. b. l. e. for more details awesome. Shall we meet Ron? Let's do it okay. So I'm GonNa give you a little bit. Deeds on who Ryan is. Ryan is an African American male in his early forties originally from Texas. It has been in the bay area for two years. We're only giving physical traits in this episode for the purposes of this social experiment. Let's hear from Ryan Ryan what's up. Hey how are you living? We are just dying to know everything. You've now had three calls with three different girls and three days. Yes that's right. Let's go down the line first impressions after the first call. Let's start with Rachel first impression first impression so I kind of like one word to summarize each girl. Okay really didn't change from day to day three and with Rachel. I thought she was exciting. Oh why is that? We actually talked about this. She has a little abrasive way about her combative and we were kind of going back and forth a lot. Is that a good thing. I think is high Beta right. It could be a great thing or could be a really bad thing. It just depends how things play out there but I think we had a really great time talking to each other stuff to you. That was a good bank. Well it surfer really good experience in this experiment. So what was exciting about her specific So she someone who will kind of make something a little dramatic for facts and kind of take you down on Roy conversation. It could be taken the wrong way though right. It's kind of like throw this out there and see what happens. Let's example Took you out my notes here. Rachel took no kids. Were taking him out at some point. Get student you gotTA keep track You know everything was kind of back to back to back to. You know you want to keep everything together so at a certain point. She accused me. It's probably a little bit overstatement. My part of being very calculated and kind of putting up a friend Which I thought was really interesting. Feedback but I could see how someone else might take that the wrong way. And so I kind of worked for me because like I'm open to receiving that so that was exciting to you though I just found it back and forth exciting There's always like another little mini and it's Kinda. I play that game a little bit too. Not Quite as actively as she does these days but I used to be really nice to be like that a lot younger so did you tell her your impressions of her. Yeah no I shared that she take it. She was taken aback a little bit but I think she was open to receiving it. She said that allowed for France told her that. Maybe you these things she looks like if you were to have to describe her Rachel like so. There's a few data points that I was able to pick up data warms. You know what I what I might think about them and For example I know Rachel's. Us friend is very close to a US boyfriend and given the fact that she over emphasized her European travel and didn't mention any agent travel. I have to think she's eighty. I think the last thing as long as she described her social way of being Is One where she's kind of like she doesn't really follow the rules. The way she described it. I've just kind of pattern match that with certain I guess groups so yeah my best guess is that she's an Asiago. Wait so you said that. You think she's Asian. She has traveled mostly the European countries now. She emphasize that our conversation. So what made you think that that made her? Potentially Asia is just way it came off. You know seemed a little forced like she didn't WanNa like do you want a stimulus direction. Oh Okay and how do you think? He is? Best Guesses early thirties. I would say twenty to thirty three range. So let's say thirty one. Okay so Rachel. Early Thirties Asia woman. Okay throughout the calls. I know you mentioned that. Some of them. Your impressions relatively stayed the same. Was there any differences or did it just build on each call the impression that you had your. I mean I think things evolved a little bit I can see Rachel it into more of a comfort zone as our mutual abrasiveness kind of subsided to understanding mutual abrasive. I mean seriously I mean on the best way possible and it's you know it's kind of one of those things where I'm joking. You know you're joking me you know. It's it's not like I'm mad at you you're mad at me take this as a matter of nuance here. Sometimes maybe my language is good enough to bring up that new member when we first talked about what you're looking for. It was important for you to have someone that you could communicate with and have differing opinions and have that lake not fighting but arguments that you understand each other I guess. Did you feel like that with her? Or did you feel like it was more funding heads? No I definitely got that. You know we didn't out like we butted heads at all and I felt like we really had a good time like breaking things open and save. What about this plane? And what about that? You know it was. It was a good back and forth. It was fun Interesting Ryan of Rachel that he basically thought she was exciting and combative. In a three way. I don't think I've heard that before out of a good way. But I've never heard of those to us together to describe one person. But who is Rachel? Rachel's Caucasian women thirty eight years old. She's been in the Bay area for twenty seven years and as originally from Salt Lake City. She single and taking somewhat of dating sabbatical except for this experiment. Of course. Here's what Rachel Thought of Ryan? I believe we have Rachel on the line. Rachel Hi oh well wait you gotta dish girl lower some of your first impressions of Ryan from that. I call He was very polite. I was prepared for like the prompts as you guys said. He was have proms. I didn't hear any prompts so I felt like I was in charge and like I had to get this conversation going. He had already had two other calls. I was like oh I better like energy. Ask all the questions do all the things and then at one point I was like I have to stop talking like stop. Let there be awkward. Silence there needs to be awkward silence and let him talk you know. So how did this progress them throughout the rest of the calls was at the same or did it change No I think changing the Times was super helpful which also I had that idea after getting off the phone as well so I was glad that the Times got to be switched. The end of the second call got like a more interesting. The second call I would say it was the best call In my perception at the end of the second call said something about me which I thought was like super interesting. I was like we need to like get back to that. What he say he said. Oh like you must be some kind of leg baby. Ceo or like maybe executive or like on your he's like. I don't know how old you are but you must be like on your way to being some kind of executive like why how interesting and I was like. What makes you think that he's like? Oh I don't know just the way that you go about things in the way that you speak. You're like I should use the word. Combative was like Badda. That's interesting it's like. No that's not the right word and then on the on the call I was like. Let's get to that so you're like. I'm not combative but let's talk about why I'm combat. Well I thought it was so interesting and I think I know what he was getting up. I think what the whole thing May So curious about is because I have dated men guys I have no range of what other women date life so I only know how I act rate and I only know like the women that I surround myself with and Like in the third call us like no like you're not afraid to challenge people and you're not afraid to be challenged and I was like yeah like what are other people. Wait so all of this you find this conversation offensive or were you okay with it like what was the end outcome of it. No I'm not good at small like I can do. Small talk because Because my job and because I feel like I have to do it so frequently like I'm not that interested in small talk like I want to like get to it like Yahoo. Let's talk about your impressions. Let's talk by my impressions of you like like. Let's talk about your trauma like what's going on in your life you know like I'm not interested in like Oh air travel than like us. I mean it's interesting to a point right. It's like not who you are as a person. So did you guys get deep like was it a good convert I still? I guess I was still trying to understand whether the I think there were interesting. Is the way that I would describe it because you don't have that physical connection if there is one and because you're kind of on this phone call where it's kind of like a little bit like. I do a monologue than you do. A monologue and then say thing N. You say a thing you know. There's a there's a little bit harder to have those kind of fun or funny or like joking conversations where you might talk over what each other you know what I mean so I would just say that it was interesting. So do you think that's a matter of a phone or just your chemistry though right? I think it's definitely a mix of both. So he said that impression on me and I said he's. I will now that I said to you go and I was like okay. Great Love it breaks herself. Sounds I was like you just seem like a little? Not Formal is it. You're very aware of how you're presenting You break through like a little bit in these moments. You're not doing a presentation at work. You know what I mean. So guarded up. Yes yes yes. That's that's the way that came across which could be true or untrue. You know like I have no idea. And I'm not judging anybody for how they present themselves like you know so the guard come down by the third conversation. I'm GONNA say no. There were times during each conversation where he would like breakthrough like. He told me this one story about his brother. Like that was like very entertaining. Like where's where's more like VAT person so now you have three conversations with them. What do you think he looks like? This is hard to be honest. I really didn't fully think about it. He said that he does some boxing. So I thought that was interesting. I don't think he's like super like ripped muscle guy and I don't think he's like Linke Guinea Guy. I think he's actually fairly athletic looking. I would say average ISH. I don't know Kelly. Oh interesting mid to late. Thirties of guys joked about having a family soon. Ish guessing that his tone of voice I would say maybe thirty s somewhere in that range. What about ethnicity do any thoughts there? I'm GONNA get that. He's not fully white. I would say he's like a mix of something or not white by to want to think that I don't know maybe his voice some of the things he said he talked about the air force. He talked about kind of ease caused. Emma South I don't know I guess just the places he lived in and maybe the atmosphere in which he grew up together. I don't know it's really hard to say so that you guys have like any points of connection that you felt like this is someone. I WANNA meet He did do the boxing thing and I like doing we tie. So that was. He also did mention that. He did Marie Tie. So I thought that was fun He likes to travel. It seems like he likes travelling a lot. I also liked traveling He likes California. Yeah I mean I like yeah. That's like a laundry list of like things that you're checking off. You basically just named somebody's tinder profile. Like I tell you. I just want to caveat all of this with like horses my own perception of it. I could be totally wrong. Things could be like off base. I don't like I was attempting at some level of. Let's get into it and again I felt like it was very presentational. He could probably get there at some point right. Because I saw breakthrough. But I'm over here just like Oh yeah. Let's really good feedback for him with that. Said would you WanNa meet him in person? I think I would only be curious about what he like. Just for the mystery of it is but like in terms of a match. I would say that we are probably not a match which doesn't say anything about him. It doesn't say anything about any. I just think the two of us together probably not necessarily compatible fair enough and you lasts work Rachel. It was all super interesting number one and like halfway through like when he did. Make that comment about me. I was like Oh right. There's somebody perceiving me against super interesting being able to get that feedback from a person is like very rare. Like that's why I love what you guys do like sometimes on a podcast when you date reviews like I am going to be so curious again. All about rewrite. Ah how I came across is going to be super interesting like I'm very curious. Yeah that's a great part of this whole experiment. Is that you. Kinda get that feedback. Then no one will ever give you. Yeah that should be like a thing though. There should be like at the end of a date. Lake some way to give honest feedback to the person or like a an anonymously online survey or something like not going to Black Mirror Lake ratings. But it's so interesting because then you can compare that as to the way that either you think you're coming across or the way that you want to come across in this experiment takes looks completely out of that equation to even more fascinating. I'm very curious to see what happens. Yeah it may not be the end yet. Always leaving that door open. We'll takes again Rachel. It was so great to talk to you and catch up about what's been going on a couple of days. Thanks ladies thanks Rachel by wow. She also described him as combative Julianne. This is a match made in heaven. Or what I it's not bash or if it's a terrible explosion waiting to happen to you the sense that she's kind of like I'm in this for a social experiment. But he's like I see her as a challenge. You know what I think. At this point anything is possible. So it's GonNa be interesting to see what he says about the other girls and what they say about him. And that's why the next woman we want to introduce you to is lacy. Here are grinds impressions of her. What about Lacey? The next one racy word I have when I think about racy is fun fun. We had a great time. We came up with a little nickname for her lacy strange as a doctor. Strange doctor strange's the little that little time capsule he can make time speed up right so she was like talking to her and make time speed up. Oh really oh okay because when Wanna be called you a stream okay. Now hearing the way you explained it not without that so you guys you felt like the conversation felt more effortless than like went by fast with her. Yeah Yeah Yeah we would be talking about one thing another. We had a really fun stuff in common. For example like You know we love some sense. Sports we've had similar experiences with ways of thinking about social time. You know night live for being outdoors. Or what have you? Your impressions of are changed by the third conversation. I don't think they really changed. I think that the third conversation. So she's the only person that was first second and third conversation and I think that the third conversation was extra late that night you cancel and I was tired and I think and she was out shopping in the country ended flat change as much as it was just like our third conversation. Just didn't end as well as or with the same energy to I two had you know. I can see how lacy is a little bit more when she acted what do you think she looks like if you were to have to describe racy My best guess. She's younger okay. Don't use them Rizal. She's a marina grow. That's Maria girl. Own Works slipped out. She's rather tall. Can you describe for anyone that's dotted? Sf listener what a Burrito girl. That's girl because I think anyone that's what I understand but we got a lot of listeners. Outside San Francisco. I think the Marina Stein is one. That's young fun. I can't say that I really experienced it on the little little older. When I'm up there from the discourse I hear about the marina it's young fun and it's kind of like fatty for anybody who doesn't know. What a Marina Bro. Or MARINA GIRL IS. Kinda like frat rope but I'm curious of she's a Burrito girl girl health that's her own self Description those sort of designations don't mean a lot to me got it. Don't think like. Oh my gosh loans from reading this. I just think like I'm GonNa sit down with a personal get to know them on our we relate and that'll be what it is. What makes you think she's tall because she said so? And then what do you think her ethnicity is best? Guess I'd probably say Caucasian Yeah Caucasian. Girl is twenty six twenty six. Okay very specific will. She asked me how I came to twenty six. I decided well sounds like you didn't just out of college but you don't sound like you're thirty yet. Oh you guys weren't such a talk about AIDS no no. We didn't talk about age we start. Yes we talked about impressed. Okay Fares on so. Why do you think she doesn't sound like she's thirty yet? She's living a really active lifestyle. She sounds like she could be totally knocked off her feet right and be in a relationship but I didn't get the feeling. We actually talked about this she. I don't think that's her preference. She wants to be out there and having fun and I think that is certain point for most women most people really you know men or women just a certain time when they're like I'm a little I really want something more and I don't think she's at that place interesting because I think which we talked to her. She said she was open to a relationship. But also I can also feel that fundus coming through so I see what you're saying. Do you feel like her age. In the heard energy felt compatible for you where you are at the stage of life you know so I was talking to a buddy of mine About a year ago. He said something really on points. You know out women. Don't get as that. All men are always ready for Mrs Right. But in the meantime what women don't understand is that Mrs Right always starts as Miss Right now and so I think it's just a matter of For me like notice. If it's my person would be my person I mean. Typically that's going to start off with something you know really fun and exciting if the person does have it all together it'll bloom and blossom into that special thing right k. So Lazy Strains Jerry deering leaders if there's contacts next to it in just stand alone you're like what I don't is not into. You definitely felt that way. So it'll be interesting to hear her perception of it. Yeah well. He thinks she's really fun. So let's see if she thought he was equally as fun but who is lacy. She's a Caucasian woman. Who's twenty seven years old currently living in the marina here in San Francisco originally from Florida she single and actively going on dates as well as hooking up and having fun this is Lacey Lacey. Tell us will resume your first impressions of Ryan After that. First phone call. It's hard to tell after talking with us for like thirty minutes in such a unique situation. But you seem very friendly very down to earth very good at communicating right. You've even talk to you. Which is really huge. But I yeah so it was a good first impression for Awesome in that. How do things like progress throughout the three times that you talks I think it just got a little more comfortable one more like light hearted and we're joking with each other and just having a good time so you know just a little more of a friendship built over the course of the calls. How would you describe Ryan if you had to use a couple of words friendly's intelligent and I would say over mind? What do you think he looks like? That's so hard for some reason. I feel like he's tall which I have no idea why but probably somewhat athletics. We did talk about like active things that we did in sports and whatnot interest some reason. I picture him. Having like light brown hair and once again I have no idea why this do you think is either a white or possibly half Asian. Oh have Asia Christner humaid. Yeah I don't know why. What were the comments. Do remember thinking said something about like being German Japanese and then kind of backtracked if he would lay shouldn't have said that or he was saying that. Throw me off so interesting. How do you think he is I would say like a twenty US maybe thirty five at you know trying to verbalize like why I think all these things are so weird ever do about before. Why do I think just a we seem to be on the scene wavelength as far as like the amount of time that we've been dating where we are in you know what we're looking worth so if you might be around the interesting was there anything about any of your conversations that really stood out to you. Good or bad it could be either so there was looking like badly glaringly. Bad busted out by any means I think one thing that was good was just that like we seem to feel so comfortable by the last conversation. I was literally talking to him. Whi while walking through a grocery store in Tahoe. My friends getting stuff in a weekend. So how do you think he compares to people you normally date just from the conversations definitely a little different than my normal type but that being said my type hasn't worked out for me so far? Switzer normal type my tight by typically daily athletes their personal trainer in African American. And he doesn't sound like that type. No vote was it. That may not sound like that. It's like his his hobbies me likes to spend his time and what he likes to do and you know he likes to like Cohn into spare time inches. I just didn't get from sides once again. It could be wrong. Did you think there was chemistry between the two of you through these phone calls? Let's pause for a little bit so we can think are amazing sponsor better help. We're all going through some unprecedented times right now and I can't be more grateful for having better help. My side better help offers online therapy with credible professionals who I trust in a safe and private environment whether depression relationships trauma where you just want someone to help you talk things out. This is a place to find that kind of support. That helped offers three thousand. Us licensed professionals across all fifty states. And they make it easier than ever to find health in an affordable way. They even offer financial assistance. 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Curious I mean fell in funny because I was talking about this with my friends even before. This podcast came up about successful relationships. So there people that you meet that you kind of like the love at first sight or you instantly fall in love with them or whatever right but those into working out in my experience the ones that do enough working out are the ones that kind of build over time as like friendships in the relationship evolves and grows in that way you my point of sharing that is i. Don't have that feeling of like. Oh my God Goo Gaga over Ryan but I do feel that I could enjoy spending time with him and getting to know him more which meeting him in person the next step to that. How do you think he would describe you after these calls? I hate evaluating myself to do that in this question. So I'll see how. How do this probably lighthearted? I'm a goofy. I'm joking with everybody all the time. So I think that came across our conversations. Someone who's like activity likes to do things on a nickname assigned to you. Yeah Lacey strange. Because our calls like I'd be we'd be like oh times up. Wow how you make time go so fast. It's like are you like doctor. Strange from the avengers wartime or something from somehow turned into him climbing lacy strange Huddleston. Feel about the Dick Today. Buddy buddy okay. Sounds like you. You guys had some sort of connection and it was easy to talk to each other. I don't get a sense of too much excitement in your voice. No I'm definitely excited. I think 'cause he kinda asked me this question to what he's like you know. Like how important is this to you or whatever but my thing is like you can't take anything too seriously nowadays. I don't WanNa get too invested in something that's like open ended and so many unknowns by I'm definitely es open minded and willing to explore it more. But it's not something that you know. I'm going to and Beth a lot of emotion into early on got. It wouldn't be devastated if it didn't work out but you're open to see work us. Yeah exactly and I do. I do like Ryan. You know what I've gotten to know so far right but I once again you know. I'M NOT GONNA be devastated this right. So how'd a scale of one to Ted? How excited are you have? I would say I like I would go for GIN excited. Sweet baby so much lacey. And we're super excited to see what happens with all this. Yeah I'm excited June. Thank you guys for a definitely unique opportunities unique. Indeed Okay Leeson strange. We'll chat soon. Thank you okay okay. So lisi thought. The conversation went pretty smoothly. She felt like it was pretty comfortable. Also words I would describe my may cover on the surface. It sounded like she enjoy the time. Yeah it'll be interesting to see if she really did or she's just trying to kind of protect her feelings a little. I can't fully read it. But don't forget we still have a third. Her name is Taylor and here Ryan's impressions of her and then we have Taylor first impression. I would say that she has it all together. I know she is someone who is philosophically. Sound who has had a lot of really interesting experiences. It has really processed them like added that all to herself. And do you. Is that a type that you're attracted to? I think that's attractive to just about everybody I don't know who wouldn't appreciate that in an a significant other. So what was it about your conversation with her? That made you have this impression. You know we go into some really like philosophical conversations. We look at my notes. Real quick here. We talked about some of our psychedelic experiences. Which are kind of things that can bring people together? I'm having that experience because it's not that common. We talked a lot about things like our exes ounce experiences there. It's really really long relationships. You guys went a little deeper. Yeah perhaps perhaps you know I think You know we both have had relationships where we dated someone who was super jealous formed our experience. I mean like we were talking about the stuff that that you think about when you reflect on your life and Taylor what do you think she looks like. Taylor Taylor Swift. Does she give you your whole name? No but I you know she Chose Taylor after Taylor swift and giving her fascination with with Taylor swift and Foods the other blonde bombshells singer spears. Britain gets given her fascinations like tennis within Britain Cheeser Caucasian or White Girl K. Best guests picket. She's probably thirty six. Okay okay why is that just a relationship history? It's bast enough to be old. She could be older. She could be younger. But that's my best. Guess that's give or take three years later side. And what do you think she looks like hair color? Have no idea about that. But I do get the feeling that she's very attractive. Otherwise that just some of the stories. She told me about exes things like that. You know You get the feeling. She's probably very attractive. Girl while talk about deep conversations such a different impression than the other women. I know for sure it's so fascinating. How Much C. Three have varied so so different. It seems like they took their conversation to a whole new level which. I'm not sure how he was able to do in three days with like thirty minutes. Each time but Taylor must have gotten something out of him war. Taylor's just someone who has deep conversations with people that's true like sometimes it could just be your personality. Yeah so we gotta meet Taylor. She's a thirty six year old. Asian woman originally from San Jose. She's lived in San Francisco for nine years. She is currently looking for marriage and kids in her future and she just got out of a relationship about two months ago in so ready to date. Here's Taylor's impressions of Ryan Taylor Swift with Eddie. Were willing to do this. Blind date experiment. That's nice of you you know. I just thought it'd be a really interesting at graphic experience and he doesn't celebrity. That's okay you. Kinda like her no way. Is I like the best compliment? You've got it all day. Which Song should I sing? Shake it off. Obviously I don't know bad blood. Hold Taylor had like two more albums. So Taylor you spoke with Ryan three different night for thirty minutes each time just about what were your first impressions of him. After that I call so it's this whole experience is really interesting because it's so the is like the pendulum has swung from looking at an APP. Or you see exactly what they look like. You know their credentials their age in you. Can you create your own narrative of what this person's like so? I had to be really open because I didn't know what he looked like or any of his history and listened to him was his town and see if I could get along with him and it was a really nice experience because he was just so he sounded so warm in open and really kind. All did your impression change throughout the three phone calls. You know when I started to get more information about him. He must've I learned. He is from a military family and he was in the airforce. I started saying like. Oh maybe he's someone who's more disciplined you know because that's kind of my experience with people from the military. I know that they're really good with boundaries and disciplined so just like a little bit more information added to his whole picture. Is she of a typical guy that you would date normally or is he kind of different probably not because I've never dated anyone from taxes or was it the military. What other qualities about him did you really either like or didn't like so much. We talk so much about spirituality and spirituality is my jam so I loved that he did the Wim Hof Meditation Method for a year straight which is also speaks to. I think it was like Oh. He's really disciplined guy to do kind of meditation for year. So I think we can act on that level anything else. Did you connect on? I think it was mainly that and also that he was. He has a pretty open person. I felt like he was an open book. And that sort of the same with me even asked me answer. It felt like that was true. What are some words you use to describe him ritual and thoughtful? Sounds like he reads a bit and he takes things into consideration. I don't need takes things at face value. And he's funny. He's like a he. Sounds like a find funny guy and I could see why he chose him to be on the path. Oh what other conversations did you guys have when you were talking? We talked about past relationships. A little bit How we overcame some of the difficulties of rake up the lessons. We've learned in how we can bring that forward to find the best person for us in the future and by having those conversations did that make you feel closer to him or did you not like having those conversations totally I I think our conversations you don't usually have on a first date but to me. This is all information to get to know another person so I love being. We'll talk about that. And it seemed like he was open and he likes learning about that too. So what do you think are his impressions of you? How would he describe? You probably like a hippie northern California girl. A why's that because when you're over the phone and they can't see you and the conversation is being driven in towards one direction. And then there's just a lot of questions especially when it comes to such an open question about spirituality which go into so many different realms a little nooks and crannies. I think he at one point. He's like yeah. I can tell you from California so I think that definitely showed Taylor. What do you think he looks like now? I think he is black and I think he has clean cut. I think that because I know he was airforce. Sir My guesses and maybe like five. Why do you think that he's African American? I actually wasn't sure if I heard this correctly but I think at one point and maybe I'll be able to ask them. I think on the first phone date. He has said Kay Rico which is like how rich which is like a Latin worse. Oh maybe he's maybe he's Latin and I was like I'm not sure if he says that you just heard it. I think it's not a common phrase that people say but I thought he said that he talked about being Catholic and I know a lot in a lot of Latin folks are Catholics. I thought he was maybe Latin when he talked about the military and his family then I was like Oh maybe and then being in Texas. I don't know I I wasn't sure so I don't know for sure but then I went from Latin to maybe lack African American. And how old do you think he is? I feel like everyone is younger than me. So I'm thirty six but I felt like maybe he was in his early thirty. What made you think that he has? He's young and vibrant and he's not were jaded yet so got like a younger spirit so I guess would you WanNa meet him in person yet? Totally I mean. I love this experiment because helps me get to know myself better as well and I just want to know if all assumptions that you make like if they turned out correct would you wanna meet him to lake because you see him as someone you could date though or is it more just for the experiment. So it's both it's sort of like how I think. Bashar contestants go into the bachelor these days which is like Yes sir looking for love in a real connection but then also they are maybe have I think for the Bachelor Contestants. They have some like. Adc over maybe their career in for me. It was definitely two parts. It was like yes. I'm working a hundred percent looking for someone had a real connection with and I'm looking for the whole nine yards but I also am interested to see like how open I can be an extremely this and see how I react. He seems like a great guy from the three phone calls. I would Totally loved to meet him in person so on a scale one to ten ten being extremely excited. How excited are you to meet him in person? It'd be probably seven okay. That's pretty good. Why do you think not a ten? Maybe at this juncture in my life right now. I don't have a ten for any. Maybe it was for Taylor. Swift reserved only for Terry. We've got seven pretty good especially in light of everything that's going on right now Wanting to meet in person. I think I'll take that. Thanks Taylor taking time out of your really busy tour schedule to do this. Experiment FOR DATA. Wall really honorable of you. I'm so glad you can see my light all right. We'll chat soon Taylor. Wow okay sounds like tailored definitely felt like things went pretty deep. Do So. I'm going to guess there was an absolute connection between these two. But let's hear from Ryan One last time for some of his closing thoughts. We're going to wait to hear who you pick. But is there anyone that you wouldn't pick? Gosh you know I have had a sleep on this a lot. So it's funny becoming really focused now. I have been discerning that you know I usually allowed the girl to pick more by hitting a certain way and just realizing that people who are my people will be will resonate with me right back kind of worse off out instead of being more deliberate in my actually initiation much as I liked all of them. I don't know that I would want to go down that path. They feel like really good friends of mine. I don't know if I'd want like stir those debt pot. I feel like I know them all very well in different ways. Yeah so you said when we talk just briefly that you've had deeper conversations with these people than you have with online dates. Yes can you go in a little more about how this is different than your typical dating APP experiences? I think so much about these things about how people show up. As as I've gotten more mature I've tried to be consistent retire. Show up you know. Noise tried to put my best forward Independent of whether I meet them in real time or online or introduced by a friend or GONNA podcast experiment. Contestants are friends of yours and I think that they were putting their best foot forward. I think the third you know just put her best before just because in perhaps it's those sorts of things informing it because it's an experiment. Thought they all showed up a certain way and I get the feeling that you know. People get so frustrated by so many bad experiences online at when they actually have somebody. Who's ready to meet them? Oftentimes they don't show up or they don't show up well you know It's obviously that impacts all of us as we're going through online dating. I think that this experiment one in which it there was strong encouragement for everyone to show up well. I think that we'd all have a lot better experience. We always just focused on. You know what I have no control over the other person immaculate that you know mark me up or down form how I'm going to show up. I'm going to just do the best I can. Because that's all I can control and that's all I can go back and with myself in a mirror and be happy. You're not about myself. You know what I mean. I think we all have a lot. Barrick's experience with that was our focus. So if we were to since this to a street I love how you call them. Contestants competing it's words about gauging chemistry of without seeing them in person yet and Kuti's thank obviously you don't know your decision yet but of the three women. Who Do you think wants to meet you? The most that's that'd be really presumptions of any of them even care Who will be most excited to meet you? Maybe Rachel Yeah. I think she'd WanNa like you know. Give me you're talking to in real life overture or two. Let's see where it goes. But that's you know that's just throwing a dart really. I think that Taylor and we can sit and talk hours about so many to smooth the sun is it's hard to say Lacey. I would like to say she likes. Meet me by sting. She might be too busy for me. Oh interesting all right mark said like I said I'm really throwing darts. I have no idea all very interesting. Well thank you so much Ryan for participating in this and were excited to hear you pick and see if there's a date okay. All right this was fascinating. Got what else to say like. It's so crazy. How impressions were formed so quickly off of really small things. I think that's like my biggest takeaway from this whole thing because some of the assumptions that were made I just so interesting. It's always interesting to see the different perspectives and also like they knew they were going to be on a podcast right so I think they were listening to each other more intently. Yeah they can give a better impression and talk about it on the show. That was something I definitely took away from. All of them though is that it actually really forced them to continue a connection and I think so often with dating APPs. Is You meet once and you have a okay mediocre experience and then it's not worth pursuing. We're having this experiment. Made You keep pursuing it. No matter what it'll be interesting to see like how that actually impacts who ends up going on the date. I think what we can all learn from. This experiment is what active listening yells like. It felt like all of them were so present with each other and they learn so much about each other in a short amount of time and sometimes in real life when we go. I mean this isn't real life out there. In the wild we go on dates. It can be three or four days and you have learned anything about the other person because you didn't listen. You know what it is. I think like for me to during Corona virus right. Now I've been spending so much time talking on the phone and I think I actually even prefer it to video because it really focuses you in on what someone saying because there is no additional things to be looking at to be doing like it's really just using one-sentence right which is your yes so with that said. I think we should both reveal who you think Brian. It's GonNa pick our tax eleven. Should give our own thanks. I have a very strong opinion. I really think it's GonNa be Taylor. If felt like the way he described her was so different. Felt like they had a connection. It felt like he wanted to talk to her even more. I really think that he's super curious about what she's like in real life in person so I I think he's GonNa pick tailor. Yeah you know what like I actually? Kinda think that too however I'm also not one hundred percent sure because I think there is something that he finds really like fun about Lacey but he also the Rachel could be a wild card to both. There's something that he finds intriguing about her for sure. Like she's like the mysterious one of this. I agree with you. It sounds like the best connection was definitely Taylor in Brian. I'm wondering if his curiosity because sometimes we learned so much about someone. You don't have as much curiosity of someone that you don't know much about so it'll be interesting to see how this actually plays out. Yeah and also I mean I'M NOT GONNA change my mind on this. I do think I do see where you're coming from us while I think it depends on what he's looking for. Yeah not first date. If he's looking for deeper connection conversation than he would take pick Taylor if he's looking for fun and flirty pay. Pick Lacey and he's looking for the ultimate challenge is a throwdown. Rachel you know what I mean. I actually secretly hope it's racial because I would love to be on that date because I feel like her going into like she's would do I think she's except not necessarily because she felt a connection but because she's so curious also yes. Yes okay. Well we're curious to see to hear what you all think. Who Do you think Ryan will pick Willoughby Rachel lacy or Taylor follow us on Instagram at dateable podcast? And we'll take a poll. Let us know. Yeah we're going to do it in our facebook group too so make sure to joy in love in the time with coronal so way in way in and of course you gotta tune into next week's episode of Love is blind part to where Ryan will give as big reveal of who he picked to go on a date with and then what actually happened on that date. Oh my God yes okay. We're good wrap this up. Stay little dateable. Podcast is part of the FROLIC PODCAST NETWORK. Five more podcast. You'll love at frolic dot media slash podcast. 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Anti-Anti-Racists, Taco Slander?! 9.18.20

The Daily Zeitgeist

1:32:30 hr | Last month

Anti-Anti-Racists, Taco Slander?! 9.18.20

"Hey everybody today's episode is sponsored by the New Mazda C X Thirty you know Robert this past December when I was out in California for the Mazda things. So I got a chance to try out the X. Thirty on a road trip from palm desert to San Diego and I was riding along with someone all you listeners might know miles grave from our cousin podcasts the daily Zeitgeist. Uh so miles and I each took a turn driving through the mountains along the way and we both got. To experience the terrain, the awesome occasionally Olympus Mons like desert landscape those mountains in southern California really something else is beautiful country but we got to do it as both driver and a passenger since we traded off in about halfway through, and we also got a great feel for the features that make the Mazda C. X thirty really stand out in its class you can check out the new theory yourself at Mazda USA dot com slash Iheart, or see it in person at your local Mazda dealership. Guys. Mazda is bring you the most incredible CV lineup in the market so that you can say, hello to the world again these Mazda vs featuring exterior design that is distinct sleek with an aggressive stance. Just, like me giving the impression, the car is moving even while standing still again you've seen instagram picks people look at it and like how is that dude so fast and how does he give me that impression from still photographs? And the answer is attention to detail. That's what Mazda brings to their design. Also, the Interior is crafted with an essential EST approach in every detail and every stitch That's where we differ my interior is a mess. Mazda has more twenty twenty IHS top safety pick plus models than any automaker as of July twenty twenty for more information on the Mazda severe lineup including the first ever see X. Thirty go to. Mazda. Dot Com slash iheart and don't forget to explore some of our strongest finance options Oh hello, the Internet, and the the week continues with the. subsitute himself taken over for Mr Jack O.. B., we'll be back a little bit longer, but you're gonNA have to suffer through a few more sports. blooper tapes probably watched all the door phone golf series I think have old ernest goes to somewhere tape. We could watch but anyway I digress it season one, fifty, one episode five of the daily Zeitgeist production of iheartradio is the podcast that we take a deep dive into America share consciousness and just say often off the top off the. Off the beginning from the tip. Buck, the cope brothers, Coke Industries Fox News funding on Kate I'm sorry we're going to keep that one in their rush Limbaugh Ben Shapiro Tucker Carlson Jacob Rolling altuve look out don't have time for that. It's Friday this Friday y'all September eighteenth twenty twenty my name is Mr Miles Gray. Oh. Favorite Butin and shadow to Michael McDonald's out to everybody. Loved Donald. I just had to sing that because it's one of my favorite. At McDonalds and pizza one of those falsettoes good at hidden or you know what? I'M GONNA keep it short because when I'm joined by by this guests holes, I might as well just shut the fuck up ninety six out book mouth but without further Ado. Please welcome from on high in the immortal to visit US mere mortals in the podcast landscape. The scale got US herself Lacy Moseley. Sugar Alesi Moseley Aka another challenge. Me Clear my throat and. I get my throat all clear that her. I heard the. Man of call. That scared the whites for elections well. Trump you don't really care about them you do. Allied and scammed and drank hooker piss ruin millions of people and couldn't give shit. Why People? Will screw. Charm, school we. Travel screw. Yeah. Trump were screwing. Trump who screw. Via. Backups from Jimmy Gore Spence Jimmy. Span thank you. Thank you for that one Lacey Lacey Lacey is someone just really shocked me through the heart when they're just saying like you know the lacy as a really really where it's at and you know what I can't deny I'm not stupid. Okay. I may be I may be foolish an ego centric and other ways but I know when I'm in the presence of goal and you know what added to that. So today we are joined by our guest in the third seat. One of the greats somebody who has been visiting this show since the beginnings someone who has been part of probably some of the highest rated episodes of all time he he doesn't know that but I do I look at the numbers. This is the hilarious the talented, the culture king himself Mr Jiechi Neil Oh they come each day see Q. U. S.. A. L.. ooh Who WanNa, fuck with me back on TD MIA lazy. Don't drink hennessy focal me roll me you know is like that every day was as I like. Her Video Hell Yeah this. Is this the first time three that have been on td together? No Don yesterday. It's time to. You. Starting to come a new thing you know sometimes when you know Jackson wake come out to play. Exactly. Every episode whereas all black people you should just sell titled. The daily daily. Black. Guy You know what I mean and SPINOFF show coming into Some some networks soon. As check right shout out to our sure That was the last usher video harsher on Blick. That I saw because I wrote a letter to slim in school when I was in maybe third grade I. Think it was when I came out and I wrote sex in it and I was like the only thing I spill correctly and then I got in trouble at home and my mom was ready to learn about six and I was like watching live a single are sure and then I was not allowed to listen to archer anymore listen Mama was the same listen Mama was leading me saying bump and grind when I was five like up here fires tone Bo Ma Ma is telling me Like. That's cool. But but. But then at first song. You make me WANNA leave. My was like you don't listen to that Shit. Now. As an adult, I'm like Damn. I'm who hurt you lake? Talk about sex but don't you be no cheat in mother-in-law. Treat. Creepy LC icing night like soul wack creep. Yes. Was Thinking about that. You Ain't never gonNA be no sad woman. Over. I remember there was another one Cypress Hill. There was a track when the ship goes Dan you better be ready and I was seeing that because I'm older and I'm dating myself with Cyprus tape and our my my dad fucking through the tape out the window, and he's like that's about young kids killing each other but the shit going down he's like he's like this is bullshit. Then meanwhile who put like a Lenny Bruce? Stand up tape in and it's like the most vile shit and we're like this is what you need to listen to. Some fucking. UNADULTERATED cursing. So it's always wanting to see what like our parents but you know an usher. I like how again he was blaming this woman for making him a cheater. then. You, make me WanNa leave the. The one I was with should really be. Control. Being honest with my boo this is what you do but maybe Even Was fucked up is you don't want hooked us up. So What it was. Put that on his my space he's flirting with me but he had a girlfriend, and then he put his my space page as his song like you make me. Linh Lou. The. Sad thing I did was I got dumped and I had Naro's Barkley going on. On and I had a girlfriend in high school. That sound letter burn and she was just like you know what saw let it burn. Feel about in this other do and I was like do. People Recru- With these owns man I'm sorry I derailed US talking about us. It's. But high school we used to we use these songs and college to communicate are deeper emotions because we did not know how to communicate our own emotions. So thank you to them because I remember what was the other one I remember in high we'll just keep this going. We don't even have to do the show I remember. Trying to get like my high school girlfriend, we broke up over some retry get back together and I was just sort of like I want to be better Blah Blah Blah but that song love you better by a local. Jay produced by Neptune's came out this Namba onto. Babies. Smile. To Day. On that journey always. Just won't be better and I was telling her I would love better and your friends will see do you think there's nothing else again do like leave you in that Carl's junior parking lot after an argument over some dumb shit I'm GonNa love you. Junior. So. Wendy's. Carlos Seventeen glow Karl growth growth growth y'all. We're GONNA get to know even better but I just can people quick taste of what we going to be talking about just more attempted fucker. On trying to misinform and confuse people will do a good old fashioned white supremacy fucking around. Premises rounded. Starring Bill Bar in the Rochester Police as well as just a quick bit of advice for journalists at the White House. If you want to know anything about the president's plans, don't ask Haley mcenaney the White House press secretary because she will not answer your dome questions about things that are happening where I work was a very, very interesting exchange. We'll talk maybe a little bit about Corona, virus relief that's at. As? Well, as checking in on some people who you know, Kinda fucked up and seeing where some of these white celebrities are in their journey to become better allies this time starchy from vendor pump rules as well as. I've look credit words, do Conde, nast traveler put out one of those like best food state-by-state lists but it's not bullshit and we'll talk about why it's not bullshit and why I think it's Probably must read material for anybody. But. First before we do that. Would something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, search history oce. Let. Me See I've been on this show quite a bit and I won't. I won't people to know something like the first couple of times I was on his show came prepared I wrote down my myths. Search. History. You know but as time goes on. You eventually figure out that you know we just we don't do that. So give me a second listen my search history, how to Unclog your arteries. Now just with food and health and I mean if a pipe cleaner do and I'll do it. Oh, we were talking about how we're getting our own heads Yeah. You giving yourself a bit of a cardiac health scare yet you know if. Outside of just. Five the rest of my searches. Week has been health shit bloodwork. Cholesterol irregular heartbeat. Why got bumps on my arms? Let. Me Tell you man. Has. No Man I got bumps and I was like Oh damn. I, got armor cancer I. Don't even know if that's the thing but hypochondriac those lymph nodes under their though co bumpy damn miles don't tell me that I convince myself. It wasn't the fastest now just luckily I have a nurse shadow Britney when I have this shit going on, she's like stop tripping your body just does should all the time just because one part hurts one day doesn't mean it's like it's a living thing. So sometimes should just shift fires off and I'm like, yeah, but but it was so specific. Yeah. Yeah, I. Know, once is I. Know exactly what you're talking about I call my mom literally every other week during down my mom I gotTa rash on my knees Mama has an and I had to get a shot I had to EPI pen shot I'm not allergic to nuts. She was like I wasn't allergic to this until I had you I was like, why tell me did you? Call my I'm so many times she like, oh And I'm like what you won't share. You know you. Not. It family history. Tell me my hands right. Exactly, my mom was a Delta The let's see what else I know all types all types of anxiety is bad. So I'm not you know because I know some people in gang they be like they hear something and they get offended because I. Think I'm talking directly to them I'm not talking to you. But what I will say is. Part of me wishes the anxiety that I did have was like social anxiety. Like because anxiety dealing around your health is a fucking nightmare. No. As Dylan around social say there's a nightmare to. Whatever you feel like it's always the grass is greener on the other side I guess so. I think. It's a big year for black people to feel mortal as well in twenty twenty between natural illnesses and racism or whatever take your pick. So yeah, all very. relatable. What is something that you think is overrated. Who White Strength? Status. Everybody always you know like since trump has been in office, the whole snowflake thing has been a thing Gore. How people of Color Black people, they have to be stronger. The. Strength of the white. Psyche. Is the weakest Shit that I've ever come across in my entire God damn life. I wrote I I made a tweet. A fucking joke about Joe Rogan earlier this week. We. Wouldn't forgive the American for me. I wouldn't forgive why I'm I'll never forgive why people for making Joe. Rogan anything more than that. Dude they used to hold fear factor was the tweet. And it took off and when I tell you why people got mad. Them niggers was hitting my instagram. Like not even better. Come to my instagram DM. Dislike be upset and I'm like y'all care this much about this podcast. That y'all I mean like motherfuckers was commenting on every goddamn social media say commented me from everywhere. I of I ain't that damn deep and second of all it ain't that damn deep like shit have some better to do which you live. So I mean loaned out bandwagon clippers fans have had better skin thicker skin throughout all of this Joe Rogan fans you know credit to because they've had they've been through some shit to. Clipper twitter and I love every fucking second of it don't get sucked up old clippers they go on through I'm chopping up fat lines of that Shit in SNORT director my brain I'm like get get that in there because. Lakers. Maybe I don't know if they were talking about that's why shouldn't define your own franchise by comparing it to another one, but you know try to carve out only guys. But yes it's true. Yeah the fragility around just whether it's Hans like the idea of racial superiority for people who are big fans of de facto white supremacy. Yes. It's big could be very jarring time for them to see other people be like, Hey, maybe we should reexamine this But Hey right and you know why folks fans the strongly written letter any. So I'm s tons of them. I recently tweeted I like please stop emailing me about my podcast in it is constructive does. Good or like police in your speech and Shit Right Juki said the N. Word Dailies Geist I dunno guys took Dan. Did you. Know. What's going on I don't know. It's just I just saw a thing going online and I decide to jump it. What's meeting is underrated. you know. I air. Air is underrated than a motherfucker. 'cause we don't be notice. You know what I'm saying people be taken breath well for granted and let the air you breathe poisonous. You're going to be like damn yet. This has been talking about this they have been we have been and I got asthma and I've already been in a in a mental state the press few weeks. So like I'm not trying to put anything on top of that. So let me tell you something. No I'm up here come for everything. I don't have to deal with no illness. Illness. But not being able to breathe as some of the worship. The basics and is literally basic of life. Came breathe you can't live like your heart can be attacked from other things like I can eat like a whole block of cheese and have a heart attack. They ain't got nothing to do with breath but let my breath stop coming back from that. It's fucked up the headaches I had over the weekend. My mom I had to I didn't she had all her fucking doors open shit like I need fresh air I'm like the air is what the fuck were you doing in here she's like I'm trying to get the smokeout I'm like you're you lend US smoke I've been. I've got to help. So yeah I to like check on our doors and stuff and make sure she's actually protecting yourself because yeah it's it really also too because it's so underrated and as you don't think twice when the air truly is bad, you're like wait could all this shit I'm F- experiencing physiologically right now have to do with the fucking oxygen that I'm inhaling the most basic pardon. Yeah. We've been going through it. And I both have asthma. Oh, my asthma is triggered by. The air or the trees like Cedar trees installed on. Ivo What about trees on fire? Yeah those trees especially, the fire. The fire trees. I said on twitter that L. A. was looking like he would color corrects movies that are set in the Middle East. Asia. Yes that's very yellow. We were it was so yellow there was a day where I had to go out and walk down the street for maybe five minutes 'cause walking car and that's my car and I was coughing it was so bad. Shot Joe Biel. Parties. Show. Global Warming Shutout to Antifa, depending on where you get your. Dishes, happening. I talk we as West, coast ings when a baby is born to be able to punch that baby in the stomach. Bathroom because you have to pay restitution that's what happened to another couple who had gender reveal where they shot a gun at a pawn. A tree and then they cause like eight million dollars worth of damage and they had to pay restitution. Forever. Babies Lives fucked up. I was born in debt like. Yeah Shit Man. I will say that the sky is kind of looking more like. The color. Blue. Today it was awful. Nice out here little crisp, little little bit more. But then you pull up, you look at the air quality and still unhealthy. It was I mean and a real thoughts and prayers for the people in the Pacific northwest. Out The air in Portland is like double I'd like you know we're dealing numbers. He never even seen. Yeah. It's like, yeah noble where they're like yeah. This Roentgen reading and they're like, well, the meter only goes up to this much. That's why we said it there. May Have to go higher anyway all that to say is this leads us to our next question. What's a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false or vice versa I'll give you I'll give this one to you. I'll give this to you lacey. You'll like this when I mentioned into into my Aka. Hennessy is nasty man. Oh, how little INNOC- is nasty is fucking throws I. Don't get it is nasty. I get us a staple in the black household. Among black friends here and I just gotTa. Say. A. Wing gotta eat everything staple in a blackout. We ain't got to consume every lie. We ain't gotTA EAT Chitlins no more. We we can stop this. Hennessy. We can stop it. Stop It. There's better drinks. We'll swain Lee was an. Only slightly said. Who's way the is he's from Richmond. Route People in his Rice's stop drinking I duNno they beat. So I this is allegedly but I was like Ooh even more reason for us to stop drinking and blend. We will stop cooking to see. Taste the I'm tired of seeing Hennessy cheesecakes. Fried Chicken Hennessy, the all important in everything in this upset at me and my homegirl. Types. Business. Back in the day are not back in the day but during corona, there was a some country in Africa where they were giving out little. Bottles with their like P. for Aroma. Thanks I was like that makes sense because Hennessy will strip your throat raw like if. It might be the cure. Go and drink. This is the cure for corona too. I, was reading on a lot of it dates back like Hennessy was just one of the first spirits to aggressively advertise to black consumers rather like before anybody yet they were just sort of like you know what? We're going to take out ads in Ebony and jet with like black models and interest. This is how we're going to like in this product to the African American community. So this it's interesting like I know but then part of it, you know it always has to start with some marketing thing. Usually it's like it was never organic. Isn't that people like you know what we love Cognac, what it is, but we love the Yak. Yeah Yeah. It was quite who said this not sweetly, it's Quavo. Oh, but one of the Great Cultural Anthropologists of our time. Yes. Thank you to Dr? Cuevas. Hunt. Show. For. That of wonderful insight. The one thing that is good. I've had a how white Hennessy. Yeah I like that one. Can only get it my Jamaica our any. Yes. Or you go to Mexico and go to the duty free because every black person at a duty free shop in Mexico. is buying bottles of White Hennessy. Yes because you come back because you can really only get it there. So I, get it. But yeah, for me I what is there a drink though that you like you cannot give up no matter. What do you have a stereotypical beverage? You drink that isn't Hennessy that feels a little like for the life of black people. Yes. Not. Really man because all the stereotypical black during give you high blood pressure and diabetes and Shit. So like I'd be like Kula. No more. What else? What else is there? What else I meant to party like alcohol is Alcohol Wise Oh, I mean you had your birthday at a Tiki bar. So I know you Kinda class, you know what I mean. I like the pink coladas. Drinks. Oh no I like a good I like a good. So rock. ROCK OBAMA'S ANY PLAN Do. Is delivered I can do that. Really. Whiskey guy. Now you know I've I've I've formed into an owed Italian man I like me some Scotch and some whiskey. Yes. The great liquors of Italy. Quick break and we'll be right back. Hey everybody. Today's episode is sponsored by the new Mazda C X thirty. So lately, we've been trying to do our part to be cautious and do what we can for public health. So we've been cooped up in the house a lot not a getting out a lot Robert is there anything you Kinda miss about the about the road trip or going on long drives? Why do you have to say there's there is something really cool about having a long drive hopefully in driving through the mountains or something, and you get to really dive into a particular album just really experience it beginning to end while taking in the scenery also a great time for the children to learn about metal. Machine. Music. So, when miles gray and I drove the Mazda C X thirty from Palm Desert to San Diego I really enjoyed the scenery along the way and I feel like the car itself helped a lot with that like the interior of the car is crafted with what they call an essential EST approach. So well, it's got a lot of features like in-car Wifi. You know vehicle status, navigation displays, etc. It really doesn't feel crammed with distracting lights in visual decoy and speaking of features. Six thirty also has a really good factory soundsystem they loaded the car up with some high definition sample tracks for us to try. Like we listen to Daft punk and that sounded great for everybody else if you want more information on Mazda and the first ever Mazda C X thirty, you find it online at Mazda USA dot com slash. IHEART. Or better yet. See It in person at a Mazda dealership near you. Hey Miles. It's Jack How's it going man good man you know just taking in that new car smell as much as I can help us open my lungs a bit cooped. I'm feeling cooped up man I gotta get I gotTa get out of the how you guys do. You don't see that's probably not cooped up you need to get. Vida Crossover utility vehicle up So, truth be told at the beginning of this I was driving around in a Mazda C x nine, twenty, twenty they were like miles we love what you're doing. Please try this car out at. Let us know what you think I'm driving in this thing it is the handling I gotta say is so smooth already fans of your driving period they. Out there on the roads and they were like we gotta get this guy behind the wheel the new CEO not it can do anything it intuitively response to me as a driver. So like you know how you oversteer like if you're like going down straight away, maybe you you start doing these adjustments with the steering wheel, it's actively trying to make sure. You're being as efficient as possible with your steering wheel the exterior design. That is so sleek yet aggressive a pull up they say, oh my gosh this man is probably a one percent and go you know what? No He's probably sensible, and that's why I believe this car really was built for me why yes. I'm black and east person who likes styling. Who likes efficiency who likes minimal of minimal flexing if you'd like to say but still enjoys a bit of elegance. They truly design it like there's an art to how they design it. It's not just a science. No in cars is an art and it's for people like me I like to drive. No I'm not someone out here who needs to. Be doing three hundred miles an hour. But I liked the handling of good vehicle and I love a great bow sound system which these CV's can come equipped with. So if you want more information on the Mazda C UV lineup including the first ever see X. Thirty go to Mazda USA dot com slash iheart, and don't forget to explore their strongest finance options. And we're back and I mean. Sweating a little bit because we we took a few shots of Hennessy. During that time. And Hey when are you gonNA sponsor US mowing or whatever? Like it's always like one of two companies that owns every liquor brand in the world isn't. Diaz Yo Moet or whatever, and they're like, they're like move you. If you want any alcohol, you have to get it through us Let's talk a little bit or a lot of bit about Just you know talking yesterday about the Republicans trying to create this Mirage if you will this perception that there's all these Democrats have good conscience that are leaving the Party and voting for Donald Trump instead of Joe Biden and they it was just completely all fabricated. It's all Republicans the one person who said anything on tape was ODonnell he's been donald trump stands since the eighties. So wasn't wasn't that good of a that wasn't that much of a success in terms of their optics campaign. So the other thing now. Turning. Point USA run by Charlie Kirk when a Kanye West biggest fans. The the cool young hip conservatives over a turning point USA day are they keep taking big swings to try and help the president out and this time they got caught making basically their own version of a Russian troll farm except he was running out of Phoenix Arizona and it was all being run by with the accounts of American teenagers they were paying to tweet. Just you know just in general misinformation campaign shit like this from this New York. TIMES, article our Washington Post in our article investigation whatever they just asked around. So it wasn't much of an investigation, but they're saying quote one tweet claim Corona virus numbers were intentionally inflated adding quote. It's hard to know what to believe another warned don't trust Dr Fauci facebook comment argued that mail in ballots quote will lead to fraud for this election and quote while an instagram comment amplified the Iranians. Claim that twenty eight million ballots went missing in. The past four elections. So they were out here doing just what they do trying to unsettle people but like with takes that are just not like they don't make sense or in any, they definitely don't help this idea that there is this groundswell of support from young people right and the Republican Party has been trying to make their party sexy are for so long because they know they're the party of like old white men stuck in their ways and normally the pretty ugly these day I, mean I'm just saying like the non. Smokers. Ugly. Ugly Lie. Matt GAETZ MAG as skin getty, have you seen how he contours? Do. Is Matt Gaetz is he's a congressman from Florida and he's a total piece of shit but he was talking about how this is this article came out this week 'cause the governor Florida Rhonda Santa's he contours issued to, and like I think it was vogue or something I really interested like these are content with the focus going on in the ass around Rhonda Santa's I believe his wife used to be like a TV anchor. So she showed him how to do make up a little bit and then Matt Gaetz pick that up from Rhonda's Santa's and they're just doing like, I, mean, it's not going to get you on any kind of Tiktok you know I needed to tick tock the magnitude of makeup tutorials. Yeah. I mean I think it's really just being like how to make your jaw line sharpest fuck using spray paint and sheet of paper. Chart Sorry. To cut you off lacy. No, you know. So so I could see them going on top and Mike by Bribing a bunch of GIN's ears with some Boba team money to tweet out misinformation. Accurate. They talked to some of the parents and they were saying like you know that's what they wanna do clearly conservative parents and they're like it's not much but it's money. So they're not even apparently like they know they're paying teenagers Boba money you know what I mean like it's not even Oh. What are you gonNA. pull up with that minimum wage energy. No. It baffles me you know and it really for me like the the young Republican and trying to make a young and hip and sexy. And still based around misinformation and and bad facts. It baffles me. Because in my mind, I like to tell myself. All right. Old. People are just going to be old people like you know the Internet is even if they get the Internet, it moves too fast for their brains to write an end up on conspiracy shit right. So like so young people like can sift through that bullshit because this is our creation right and when shit like this happens whereas they peddle in all these things and the misinformation in bad facts, I'm just like how. Is. Not that people is moving too fast it's just people are choosing what to believe would not believe Yo-. Yeah. It's so upsetting it's truly is at that point because that being a trump supporter and like you know you know till wheels come off Republican or racists nowadays is it is a it's a death cult to the point where they are rejecting science and they've replaced it with faith in their Lord Donald Trump because he's saying he's he's putting out an air out there I'd be like, no, it's all good. There's nothing to worry about that. They are also going fourth with that same like. Like they had just come out like a great sermon being like you know what we we can put the mask down because our racism will protect us our whiteness will protect us and it really you're seeing that now just like we'll play I'll play a clip later on in the episode just to give a bit of a snapshot of how conservatives really are seeing things because it it's really indicative of what we're talking about right and conservative the word itself a Republican didn't use to fully be synonymous with writes this I mean if we're talking about both parties, Democrats, are rice is held to like I. You know what I mean. You look twice Kansas tell them. My own. Breaking. Your eyebrows as soon as I said that. Spaghetti. But. The point is like You know it used to just be like conservatives were greedy. They won't pay taxes I want help anybody that was what conservatism was about, and now it's literally just about racism I. You can say Republican in this climate Erica and us not look at you like Oh so you do racism to people. Because that's the thing to like. Here's the thing you know. I consider myself a progressive without the moral superiority, but like I don't have a problem. I mean I have a problem but I don't. I. Don't have to hate you. If you think fiscally things should be different I'm like I get that like I don't WanNa pay taxes I don't WanNa pay taxes either it's like I get I get that we have different ideas of how things can can work I get that but we're not rooted in that anymore like we are so far as that version of politics unfortunately and I know politics is always been bad and Blah Blah Blah Blah but. Is. Not that we hate Republicans, if you talk about the actual definition of what the Republican Party used to stand for when it comes to fiscal in small. Blah Blah Blah I mean I do hate him. But like now, it's just like Oh like people would flags on the houses and I'll be like I bet you. They guy, kkk sheets, Nemo fucking outs like now even the American flag to me is associated with. American. Flight I'm genuinely afraid I'm like I don't know if going to try to to me like. This charged up about what's going on right now. and. I was one on the fourth of July I used to wear the American flag swimsuit every year, and like always had a bunch of red white and Blue I. In a way because I was like it feels like the American flag right now in this climate is a symbol for whiteness and what white people think America has always been, which is their country that they stole. Feels, like a threat when I see the flag, we're talking like you know all that respect, the flag. The flag patriotism is slowly morphed over time to mean something completely different and you know much in the same way where Republicans. Now it's like we've Kinda gone. We've just gone fully backwards before were like well housed. How can you balance a budget or like what did you spend on this? Isn't this now we're like. Is a Trans Person Person. Or black people human. Like. Where back I'm like we'll see this is now, of course, I can't virus job because he shouldn't even be fucking questions like we're we're debating this shit. Oh No, no, no see. We're not even we're not even on the same planet at this point because you're in a world where these are still things that are up for debate like respecting people's humanity and this is that's old shit like we need we got real shit like if you can't get on the same page that we're all. Breathing gods cursed air on the same planet like then we have real. There's no way we're going to move forward. If we're spending time arguing WHO's human, who deserves dignity Nah Anyway Moving on. To. A little more fuck ARY some good old fashioned bullshit from you know like we say, America. You. Could come on now what the fuck billboard bar the attorney general who is honest leap. Showing Donald Trump. What it what it means to look like a fascist authoritarian like William bar is the guy you know you know Donald Trump is the president but bill. Talks that shit like he's the one who's out here that we're already seeing that he was recommending sedition charges for protesters all kinds of really really dark shit and so recently he was speaking. In Michigan, and he was like talking about like how these governors of these of both parties in all these states like, why are they shuttering these businesses? It's just it's so bad. It's like there. It's almost like it's worse than something else in. American history let me just play this clip for you So you can hear what bill bars thoughts are on slavery. Bring a national lockdown stay at home orders is like house arrest. It's it's IT's other than slavery, which was different kind of restraint. This is the greatest intrusion on civil liberties in American history. What a rebrand secretary, every kind of restraint. Slavery, a three hundred year unpaid inter ch. Oh ropes a different kind of necktie. Like these focus I- insane. Man. It's something. It's this is really but you know what this is. A whether it's to troll or what their world view is that it's kind of all the same thing because you know you have to be flippant. Disregard. True human suffering to sort of keep keep this energy up. Like 'cause now, all your empathy is is going towards people who are like cooped up at home. Yeah. Also people like. You can't be where you are as the attorney general and not understand what house arrest is. This is in house arrest I can leave my fucking house whenever I want I. Don't have to like toe the line between three yards away from my front door you like like you sold just even factually. Incorrect like and the fact that. You could be so brazen to say, then people here that and the two links in their brain don't connect in common sense is so baffling to my mind, I don't. Think. There's also that thing that happens with extreme privilege and people who are really rooted in their whiteness in toxic way, which is like the oppression Olympics like they're constantly wanting to feel as though they are suffering just as much of the people that they are oppressing in hurting just like that video that we saw recently at the protests of. The mass where they were like you know George Floyd couldn't breathe and neither can we you know what I was going to bring that up later in the show but I think we need to bring that up now because that really was a moment this week where we saw just how many ways people can twist and turn their brains to try and. Justify. Their. Just awful fucked up worldview when it comes to. Paris. And I think that to some degree some of these white folks who probably experience a lot of guilt because when you dehumanize people, it's easier to hurt them but the fact that they're having to come to terms with the fact that this, all this fucked up stuff that they're constantly doing is being done to people you know it's hard to reconcile with, and so you have to try to make yourself a victim in some way, but I just want to say make it very clear to those types of people. Don't like suffering. It is not fun. It's not cute. I don't WanNa be her protested and do I'm twelve miles one day for black lives matter unless I had a big march on Washington I would have to be like look I'm getting on the bus mlk too much must be hurt. Read them yet they catch you cheating you like pull up in the bus in front of everybody. You weren't you? Oh Yeah. Yeah. I just No. What matter I just. My boy was driving the bus though he he wanted he gave me right I was just around the block I was crying I needed to support him and he needs to talk about his is so I jumped on. To Washington I would've been. Like are we have freedom? Freedom yet. You know coach shoes in either. New Technology and US now. Have Ultra boost soul. Boost back their them niggers walk in net foreign fucking loafers. Sold Leather, soled shoes like. All our grandparents got baffi and other. I. Always annoyed. Because I was marching in flats. Spoke in Airmax motherfucking tell me about fucking struggle anyway. So back to this idea of fragility. In Saint George Utah there was just this fucking. Okay. So there was a protest in August that had just kind of come to the surface now but I just to hear these people and you're going to get a little bit of everything. This was a news story covering an anti mass protest in Utah of whether it's how children are being like inoculated and inundated with misinformation the false equivalency to George Floyd's death. It's all there in service of this idea of like we are cooped up and it's like slave times I think. This is a this clip that everyone like the bit that everyone was like is this from snl because it almost it's tragically frustrating. Here in front of the Administration buildings calling for the end amounts mandate saying they are tired of not living their normal lives. On A pass call for action fighting morning in Saint George Subtle police officers on standby as many locals culture thorns about coronavirus spikes overblown. They'll flu pills more than coronavirus other calling the virus. Or Stadium at eastern dramatic carriers simply do not exist and they could not be forced to wear masks anywhere as citizens of the United States if we want to wear a mask, that's fine we can take care of ourselves. Rally attendees say they should've ever wear masks if they have any medical issues or mental health concerns or Fairfield, they simply can't raise when George Bush was saying I can't breathe and then he died and now we're wearing a mask and we say I can't breathe. So we're store it anyway for many of the big. Book just GonNa Stop Is. Anyway. I. Hear. Oleg when church where he couldn't bread and like we're being forced him and keep died but we're not dying but you see the correlation here. Also. Also. I don't WanNa hear. From an individual who is so young, they probably spl flew f. l. e. w. like i. don't need to hear this. NIGGA. Talk about the flu or Corona virus, you are seven. Exactly fuck up. To the broadcast, what the fuck you doing asking a child their on a fucking pandemic but again, it might underline to other people to say there are people out here. Look they're telling their kids this dumb shit but it's like any household you grew up and you repeat the shit that you here at home. But, it's like that's not useful news. Best. Direct repeat though it wasn't like he was like mass. Make me sad with some dumb kid was like stood. The flow kill and. Can't ask. When trump is going to make America great again? This baby to look at the polling black unemployment was at its lowest under this president, and so there's not a racial problem in America I just also want to highlight this one older woman because she she also had a real see what take go ahead parents demanding they have the right to decide what to do with their children. I'll tell you another reason. I'd hate math most chow molesters love. That sounded like a like a fucked up commercial where like for facemasks where it's like nine out of ten child predators love them where a mass. On Shit that's. This where did you get this entail from? You have a lot of pedophile friends. because. It's. What are you? What is the I don't get the correlation between is because like you can't see the fate, you can't see the child Malthus for help is that what it is is that what they're saying like? They like it because other than that. I, don't understand. Like what that means. Don't understand what that means. It's. The only thing is, are you talking to a lot of child predators? Yeah. Like where did you get into this anecdotal evidence from? Okay. So that was another piece. Okay. We we also have this other. The Bullshit has gone on Rochester I have to keep in touch on this really quick because Daniel prude who is another unarmed black man in his distress who came into contact? With police in March and was his that interaction led him to be on life support, and then eventually taken off of it the there's been a lot of attention recently on the department because honestly this had happened in March, with all of the things that have been happening in this country. especially with you know the uprising specifically set off with George Floyd's killing. There was a apparently a huge huge move. and. You shouldn't be surprised by this from the Rochester police or sheriff's department whatever they're technically called to delay the information of what exactly had happened to come out and the New York. Times has gotten a lot of hold. A lot of these internal communications because the office had actually tried to figure out what was going on and they got emails like this and this isn't Like you know when people are so cynical about how law enforcement works is like working to maintain white supremacy it's because people do it. So effortlessly, just in this kind of email exchange quote, we certainly do not want people to misinterpret the officers actions and conflict this incident with any recent killings of unarmed black men by law enforcement nationally, there's a deputy writing to his boss. Saying that would simply be a false narrative and could create animosity in potentially violent blowback in this community as a result So basically saying, we cannot have the body CAM footage released to Daniel prudes, lawyers, or the family's lawyer at all and the police chief replied to this email quote. I, totally agree. We can't let people know we can't him because it was blocked because then they're gonna be mad that we killed him because it was. Still GonNa find out about the whole what the whole rub is. Another. Thing is they. They arrived because it was for a wellness check, which is another reason why at the very least most police departments need to say, Hey, you know what? Cops don't respond to wellness checks anymore I mean even if you're. In some city where people like don't talk about the police most police will tell you they don't even want to do them. Because they would rather be blue brutalizing black people. And there's that dark joke that was like Oh. Yeah. We did a wellness check on a black person. Yeah. They were fine. Don't worry. They're not anymore life. They were better off than he did not. and His. So his brother called because he's like my my brother's not well I'm concerned about him he was he wasn't clothed when they arrived and so the another thing they found was this is from this New York Times article is that in a in a police report on the confrontation marking a box for victim type, an officer on the scene listed Mr Prude who the police believed had broken a store window that night simply as an individual but another officer circled the word in red and scribbled a note it said make him a suspect. So that's. Based things yeah. You know. I think we're past. Brian. Talk. Unfortunately because. This is you know it is what it is at this point where as far as we just know these things are happening. The part that just still is upsetting for me is. The denial? Of It like. You can emit it. And Shit still probably won't change. But at the very least people can admit that this shit happens. Like and you know. This year we've seen more people mid it you know our white friends are white liberal friends are like Oh damn y'all wasn't lying this really does happen. Yes But how you how? To a rubber bullet, hit my face and I'm like Oh. Good. Thank you. But it just the denial of a beyond that is. The part that. grinds my gears I mean and I think it's also important for listeners of this show who are white to hear US talk about this, because all we can do is talk about that and we just let out fucking Si- you know what I mean. That's our only recourse is to just feel that and say and accept it unfortunately or be like obviously. This fuels, a lot of the energy we put into trying to move forward. But as it stands in the historical data sets that we can rely on on how these things work out. All we can do is say I'm pretty sure that the data said I'm looking at I'm living in a country and society in which this is okay in which the worst. That happens is some of these officers just on leave and we're not getting any true sense of justice for people who are you know murdering unarmed and then obscuring their deeds through misinformation or just really cynical slow reporting to try and drag things out and it's tough man and that's why I it. It's not like we're just angry be like this is what? Did this over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and every time it just takes it. It's funny. Every time I think there's not much that can be taken out on like I'm pretty sure I'm empty somehow you read something and it takes a little bit more out somehow we when you thought you didn't have anything left. Over that's what. And for far too long. You know we've all been spoon fed that the. Is the cause you when you hear that black folks are thirteen percent of the population for thirty seven percent of the prison population. You Think, oh, it's because black people are criminals is like, no we're over police and prison is slavery they work for Menial Labor who do you think is putting out these damn fires in California. But when they got of jail can't be firefighters lake is so. For far too long. We've been told like, oh, well, the know we're just more likely to be criminals and it's like, no, we are criminalized and therefore that is why these people are. Considered criminals also I think a lot of black people, which is especially with most disheartening for me was the point where I realized that I can't appeal to white people's humanity. That I really had to start being like look. Over funding the police hurts everyone's tax dollars when we pay twelve million dollars to Brianna Taylor in restitution that money comes out of your pocket think about how much money you could save. We could in homelessness, we could redirect these ferns and then you know we could all be living better. It's like I can't even be like black people are human beings I'm talking. About all the money you'll save guys. If you just stopped killing, it's actually cheaper I swear like I like and to get to that point was really saddening to me to be like I can't even be like, Hey, guys working in beans like please stop I have to be like look at all these coins you'll save if you stop doing agro like it's gross, it's. Yeah, yeah and you know all that to say you know please if you find yourself in a place to help and not hinder to expand the possibilities for somebody to defend somebody to set somebody straight to dead some bullshit terrible ignorant take in educate somebody police do that because. all the all the information we have around us is as shit really isn't getting much better and on top of it, you're already seeing polls that support for the black lives matter movement is starting to wane since June. What has always happened. I know exactly but. But. I'm still finding myself. I mean look whatever this is that that's what it is to always happens but also. here's something that people don't want to always emit. But Republicans are better at this than we are right. Immediate and we are. Spreading. Whatever information they want spread. Then then the other side is they are good at it and they are so good at it because they learned a long time ago. Control the narrative control, the vote fearmongering. Yes you know and and man, they try so hard to control the narrative and. We appear we laugh at them because they don't get shed and they make WanNa whereas pussy and all this ha ha ha they're so old and decrepit and. Lame. But you know what? They are good at making sure you know what the fuck they talking about. and. I Love Michelle Obama, but that whole when they go low we go. Hi. Getting US nowhere y'all okay. We have to fight like we can't be going nowhere because. What we sit on a moral high ground while the world birds, we watch Nancy Pelosi right strongly written letters to the manager, a. k. the president like you know it's time it's time it's not going to be this easy fight that we all expect it's not going to be this thing we can rely on human decency. If we've learned nothing, it's that that does not exist for a lot of people at least from what almost half the country. Doesn't have any human decency. I don't even know if he's a functioning human being anymore. He's so deeply narcissistic. So it's like we gotta to fight fire with fire is not going to be easy. Yeah and I mean I, think just again, I always think of this James Baldwin quote. Says to be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be a state of rage almost almost all of the time and it's shit like this that you don't get examples that are very reaffirming. With listen quick break and we'll be right back. Hey Miles check from work. Yes Hi. How's it going? Man You? You seem a little drained lately. I gotTa Tell You I'm firing on all eight cylinders. Agreed to just keep this open zoom call. When? I know I shouldn't be taking naps in front of it. yeah I I know you're firing on all cylinders over here. Just kind of withering away just looking because you I like to snack. Sometimes. I need a snag mid stains me give me. I have got to tell you I have the perfect solution for you. 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Hey, miles. From Work O'Brien, you I know. You just stop sneaking up on me right now because I'm just I'm reading up on Voter Suppression Zaveri Important Topic Right now, and you know it turns out in anticipation of this very important election. Prime video has a new documentary called all in the fight for democracy, which is obviously examining this very long standing issue we have in this country of voter suppression and how that affects the outcomes and the the movements that we are trying to invest into better our country, and it does a really great job you have it may who better than Stacey? Abrams someone who ran for office in Georgia for Governor, and we saw the kind of depression tactics that were deployed against her in her bid for the governor's mansion. So this film is interweaving personal experiences with Kurt with current activism and historical insight to just expose this entire problem, and again with the expertise and perspective of Stacey Abrams, the founder of fair fight in the former democratic gubernatorial candidate for Georgia. Yeah. It tell you about barriers to voting by the way. That's what I I actually came over here to tell you about this. so that's such acquaintances. It my favorite part of it is that it kind of illustrates barriers to voting that I didn't really even know are threats to my basic rights is. Of the United States. I told you. You said you went to the polling place and they just said Nope can't vote here I said Jack they can't tell you that you actually that you can vote their polling place. So yeah I mean look it could be as simple as that or even more complex than other issues but please check out this documentary all in the fight for democracy on Amazon prime. Video September eighteenth. And we're back and you know while we're on it, you know 'cause I just I just I wanna I wanNA. Remind people get canceled for being racist There's there's a way to. actually show your growth maybe going on the town hall show isn't the best way to do it but. You know what? Either way a shoutout to starchy from vander pump rules for thoroughly showing her whole ass she. She was fired from Vander pump rules because she called the police on the shows only black cast member. Saying that she was somebody who could have been robbing people in Los Angeles. Okay They thought it was a prank. They're like this is so funny installed later on said, I was trying to solve the crime. She talked about it publicly. Yes. To the like this, you like it's wild to me she committed the old timing. We're talking about this before we started rolling she literally pulled an image -til on this black woman and was like, yeah, they did a crime go get 'em slave catchers. And there was like ll guys like. On twitter ll I, cut her brakes skies he. Sprang joke. Yeah exactly. It's just like those like the member of that whole prank style video that was like really big in twenty thirteen fourteen when people like these aren't pranks been doing like ignorant shit on camera like antagonize, people? Like fuck with them. y'All. Let me go person going to throw prior to. Stop in somebody sneakers in the hood. Bring. Me Talking about you be in the ICU. Real quick on you prank you talking about we let her baby in a forest. So this. After this has gone on, she had to take a break because Bravo. was like sorry, we can only have so many racists on air at one. So you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA be out for a little bit She has been saying all kinds of things she on the show she said. Quote I needed time to process my feelings. I needed time to process what happened. I feel like one of the most frustrating parts when this all went down was the people was that people expected to understand everything immediately and things like that take time I mean, that's true. Getting getting over a lot of reasons I can't imagine it happens overnight. So I kind of agree with that but then she starts then she goes on. I'm someone who messed up quite a few times I am the reason why I am in this situation I think a lot of people wanted me to focus on cancel culture and whether I was a victim or not but it's not how I feel at all oh good. Oh good. Good good good stuff. Thank you. Thank you so much Then she goes on townhall and. I'm just going to play this clip that somebody else captured while watching the TV. And in this clip Tamarin Hall she asks dossier very directly. You know like what did you learn? You know because this is your moment you've you've clearly done a terrible job at ally ship at being a not racist you've failed at being anti-racist in fact, and so she asked you know like tell us why Black Lives Matter Stacey I know I hate to do that but we need to hear. Ended and they. Your. Black people. Is they've been oppressed for four hundred years. All is modern yet. Until what? Not. Something that. Revised in office. I. Started doing classes. Look I respected. I respect people who are going on sincere journeys and actually trying to have a reckoning with their own beliefs and their past behaviors. Stasi is out here stringing together buzzwords. The. Last months literally. This she was like the thing I realized about black lives matter is I can't breathe until all. Arrested arrest, the key, the police that murdered Brianna Taylor and facts. All cops are bastards say her name every kiss begins with K A. Habit your way. There's a tragedy meal at McDonald's concluded. It's Also, like don't do we gotTA stop with these. These fucking cliches at this point. What do black lives matter because they've been oppressed for four hundred years because they're dying because all lives combat until black lie all right. The first week. Those were Nice. Little catchphrases like the Muslim different commercial. Yeah. Some different at this point if I, if you mentioned the phrase, four hundred years to me, I'm GonNa Punch you in between two is I'm like okay. So Let's take back. What do you mean? What happened in sixteen twenty? You're talking about four hundred years ago. We Don Sixty nine, hundred, sixty, nine, hundred, and sixteen zero. You know about that oak? Yeah. I. Had to read that in my class the thing I also I mean, the answer is real simple. If someone asks you why you don't have to start. You don't have to put on your fucking suit and give a sermon. You say black lives matter because black people are human beings and we're living in a country where clearly there's a a large group of people who are. Will easily denigrate black life and treat it like it's disposable. To You I. Don't know what else to you know what I was with respect more. You know we'll way more than me fuck the four. Hundred Years, Shit. Yeah slavery was bad. It was terrible talk to me about fifty years ago. Talk to me about thirty years. What happened tell tell you oh, you ain't here. You know the Civil Rights niggers getting sprayed in the street after we got emancipated. The Tulsa. Tulsa should. Talk to me about shit that happened while people I know were alive. That is was going on. Right, I can we can. We can all dial seven digits right now in here from somebody who was like, tell you what the fuck happened to me. Right fifty years ago my daughter went to a racially segregated like he they were segregated. PA like that's not far away. You Know My dad was called the Swiss face many times my mom to the you know all going up through school I'm a golden nigger to my face. You know it happens and what's weird to me too is like really feels like she just discovered this information which I think is the most disheartening thing she was like look I didn't think black people or people, and then I heard. My Agency, drop me that they really are. Also let me tell you about that. It feels to fresh doc- and also I that we have to stop thinking about black lives matter in this microcosm where it's all just like we'll look I'm not shooting black people so I'm not the racist. There's little things that racist white people do to black people every single day that stresses out make tired Mc our blood pressure high because die faster and I'm talking about the little chef is just like you know people coming up to me and assuming that I was born poor any sets I've been on and people were like, yeah, you know how we grew up in the hood I would. Know Shades anybody who did grow up in the hood but you just assume because my skin was dark that I was like you don't know me or being shocked that I. Oh, you're so articulate please tell by folks there articulate we don't don't do like little things every single day and there's things that we can all do to retrain our brains from even just ruining black lives mental health every single. People. Don't understand how hard it is for black folks to walk into rooms where no one looks like them, which is the daily for most of us. We are just surviving and have white people need elect you all day telling you. You're less than than telling your less than human and we all have to work on that. So it's not just like, Oh, don't shoot the black people. It's also don't regret the black people don't put your hands in their hair don't talk about their skin. Let them treat the white people we are not an ought to be at the Goddamn you. Put Lotion a yoga bathrooms dot leaving us out here Ashi to. Like. I tried out that Palmer stuff. It's pretty good. I gotta say. I'm going to is it racist? If I put s curl in my hair I'm going to try. To try out the s curl, I think it could be good I don't know. But yeah, it's it's it's a it's a it's a long fucking road that we don't see much improvement on and despite there are things that people like to point to very superficially. But we're still a long ways away and I think if anything yes. Don't narrowly boil down this idea of black lives matter to whether whether or not. It's about police violence like really this is trying to open up an entire conversation shift the paradigm into how we look at black liberation in what everyone's role is in that not just. For the people themselves but for other people who are at the levers of power who are unfortunately gatekeepers to certain things it's it's a group fucking effort and I think to be like Oh yeah. I support the black people in their effort to get their own. It's like, no. No. If you support it, then you gotta be up in it with us to and you've got work to. It's not just you're like I'm good with them doing that I'm okay with that I'm okay with them trying to get. There's none no that means if you're if you're about it, you gotTA help everybody get. There's Mean and you have to create space and we've talked about that intangible ways. I see a lot of businesses. A lot of people are doing exactly what Dossey did you know given us a? Hot The slaps you know from the black lives matter campaign. You know all the hits, the greatest hits, but it's like you also have to like employed black people pay them for their ideas stop stealing from us because that's ugly people. We always talk about appropriation but it's like we don't give a shit that you wear braids give a shit that you re branded as boxer braids and took money out of black folks males and. That's about or we give a shit if you and listen I'm sorry if anybody loves person she's finding to make she makes me he he and Haha. You know we don't want you out here, Kwena either you know where you benefit alpha of a long career of appropriate black culture. Farewell. Up at all lay. Farewell to. Black people to. Well may grow. I've arrived now. Let me talk about my Asian culture like I. Stuff man. There's so much I. Yeah. I straddle every fucking world of that one and so you know and I kind of look you hate Aquafina because you took my whole swag but It's true that there's Anti blackness at every level you know like Asian, Hispanic, black even you know that's how good this shit is that we have even internalized it cc. Terry crews. So here's the thing you know keep doing our thing, but we need everybody's help to you know just doesn't work like that because unfortunately, we don't sit on the boards of all these companies like when you look at what the halls of our look like in this country, it doesn't look like the people that need the help Okay. So finally, I just want to talk touch on this because both of you are not from California. You're from the states of Texas and Illinois respectively, and there is a new list out from Conde NAST traveler talking about the best foods to try and every state. Normally we talk about this Kinda Shit all the time on the show because some person is either trolling with the fucked up madman who the this look the most popular fast food thing according to the bub-bubba. It's actually some dude as to work with a playboy who does half those but. This shit. Is this is actually really good because their whole thing is like this is what people that live in the states are telling you. You should try not this shit. That's you know the the stereotypical shits offer Jakisa. Deep dish and Italian beef although those Johnny s Yeah Okay Lacey. Lacey, and I'll and I'll get to you miss mostly in one second. Because in California I'll say, Hey, yeah, man go ahead try your in and now but also you will have our tacos because our tacos are delicious. Are. Are Delicious. Now, this is the thing lacy you. You, you don't have to come for our Tacos I'm not I'm not out here trying to slander Texas Mexican food or would you guys eat out there? Trying to. Trying to slander whatever salsa output on crackers, and that's okay. Because I hope God takes all that hate from your heart lacey I really do I really do. But for you, what would you say Lacey for people? They say, Texas food. What are they got tex-mex what's them or at Burger? Well. Don't contracts. Okay. I'm not I'm just asking the barbecues unparalleled honey. Okay. You the briskets, the different styles styles shot at to Texas I like Texas I went to. Places I like Carolina Barbecue because I like vinegar based sauce they can all jam together we don't have to have to say. Why are we putting all the foods against each other lace? Street tacos are sickle and if you don't stay on means dry in Spanish. Okay. Are you putting on you just don't you don't put any lie on their no salon show no onion. You don't put any woody me no no. Salsa. His land juice supposed to be added which to a tackle. Tackle to try now look I did see some tacos where you dip it in the whatever whatever I'm GonNa try those maybe Yeah I'm going to try those and those will probably be cute but these ones on the street that all right without teddy. Okay well, well, she coming for you. I can. I. It's said to me like I'm not GonNa, I can't get angry I can't get upset by that because I just look at this and I look at a really angry ignorant person you know what I saw. A black woman angry way when it comes to these. On the objective it's that was an objective observation I. I don't know how you have this much energy for our tacos. I don't have this much energy to drag anyone this. All it is, is like you a clipper fan but the TACO version because you over there in Texas and trying to find your Mexican food to ours it's its own thing baby you know what I mean and it can be that it doesn't have to compare and I'm not saying one's better than the other but don't drag us into it to make. Knowledge. How Petty Miles is like? This is very petty Lebel behavior. Saw that we had this conversation with Jack on twitter where you were here and he's GonNa make a point to add. You call him petty bail Miss. Gladys fight. Okay, so I just want to get into this list because it's really interesting because everybody is like calling out the foods from their state that they feel people are really sleeping on. So we'll start with keys in Illinois They put Nigerian cuisine as being like you don't fuck up if Illinois you must check out the Nigerian. Yes there's many other Like immigrant communities but Nigerian food, we're not talking about enough yet. Here's the thing. Here's the thing about Chicago food is obviously the shit that is in the National Zeitgeist deep dish pieces and the Italian beef and stuff all that is good and it's great and is even you know just even regular tavern style pizza but Chicago also has huge neighborhoods lake. Like Italian neighborhoods like Chicago has the largest Polish community outside of Warsaw in the world. You know we have low Ethiopia, we have all these different places just like La does just like does and like the shit is authentic, Shit they're so like Nigeria food while I may lose a little bit black points I'm not a fan of Nigerian food like. Sorry, I'm doing you let. Do. Is Good is good. You know what? I'm saying but I'm also. West Africa I'm South I'm my my family. All came from the south. So you know like me some. Some shit that's going give me some high cholesterol. There you go eventually but. The Nigerian food is good. It's a lot of food in Chicago that people are sleeping on because. They don't venture outside of downtown Chicago when they come to visit. Earth? Sure. Sure. So This list is really a testament to how much immigration has been this country's greatest gift. You know especially from a culinary standpoint. So in Texas lacy in the lone star state. Do you know what do you know what they're shouting out? Adult what are they shouting out Blau cuisine from ocean refugees who came over? There saying do not sleep on Lao cuisine if you are in Dallas Texas. Do not miss out of on any of the Lao food. So I'm like okay. So Sap in downtown Irving is getting a shoutout just makes you I. It's like I don't know. So have you what's allow food like in Texas it's popping. It's not been I definitely say that I I can't remember the last time I had son who's probably when obviously when I was in Dallas their profits spots maybe late to be people all up throw yeah, it's. It's funny because every sort of community that's mentioned in this is sort of talking about whether it's like something from like the first wave of European immigrants or the Korean War or the Spanish civil war or even Vietnam like how all of these things are bringing all these like really really interesting food cultures. To the US in. Atlanta California they're giving shout to walk in food. So shout out to oaxacan food because he is. I think most people think that's a region in Mexico they use a lot more like it's I believe the landscape is much more like lush tropical. So why you'll see tamales from like in corn husks from certain parts of. Mexico like Oaxaca, they'll use more banana leaves and things like that and the flavors are just do A. Try that because he street Tacos ain't it. On know. What say I will say like have you been? Have you been delegates? The that's will hawking food like the moulay like that's that's the. OAXACAN she yeah. So that's Gilly gets the right. There is like you know the og spot for from I will say Tacos in La like there's some really good Taco spots in in southern California? I'M GONNA take it out of La just say southern. California. Yes. The thing about the tacos California is But. You just gotTa find your own because like everybody got their own taste everybody be standing by. Lacey. That TACO truck by. motherfuckers be about that shit is discussed the don't get it. Is So. Nasty. Good. Now Yeah. So you know you just gotTa Find Your Own. You gotTa Find Your own when this when this? With. Nobody when this is all overweight, we need to do like the petty Taco battle. You know what? I mean. We'll get some company to pay to fly to Texas and I'm not even saying I'm here to put one over the other lacey. I'm merely just want you to turn the hate down. No one saying ones better than the other but you have this, you have this energy for it I just can't understand you. TURN THE FLAVOR UP I'll turn. Hey down. People were saying, Oh, well, you saying tex-mex and that's like ginger by Mexican I was like I'm not just talking about tex-mex like the Texas Mexican restaurant that white people. Mexico to Texas. I learned how to speak Spanish grew up with. Have Homemade fresh flower diaz meet up. You know what I mean like. I know what I'm eating on I know what I'm talking about. Okay. Watermelon pops with Wadham, up in NFL. Okay. I'm pulling your card now. So this is going to do. We need. Oh. Oh. My guy we should. Places. Shot up as tacos for their BEREA tacos and consummate because they hooked me up. Not? Even free. They were just like hit me up to you'll come late pays like the. Fast. Food joint pace no, no, no, no no they got. They got their own their own thing. They can even our which you call pepys. You know what I mean but say to people know pepys like no. Yeah. Yeah as I mean, Pepsi's. But this. The bedia with the consummate death flavor in that stock and you dip look if you're saying should is. My Seco- for you then you need to dip dish it in the constantly. Last haven't had that I have. Because you deal with that what some what s Tacos. With Dad's keys thank you so much for stopping by the show. Always, appreciate. You have having you by working people find you support you and what's between the like. Of course you can find me in the streets as always. But Not really because I'm staying my career mostly. He's last easiest way to find me culture kings. You know what it is go check it out. Also got some coming down the pipeline on head gum. So be on the lookout for that. If you are a fan of reality TV for whatever reason I'm about to host a reality TV show. So check that out. Yeah. What's The tweet that you like? Oh I here's a tweet that I like It's not funny but it I love it nonetheless from Saturday, night live welcome to the cast Andrew Dismutase I'm probably mispronouncing net punky Johnson and Lauren Holt. shout out to Lauren. Holt. Who just? Yes and no. Lauren Holt is la comedian meal lacy noar. Be. that. Just, meet. Laura, was on my first UCB team in her on our first team together. So I've known Lawrence says she stepped into UC being hit them stages and I'm so excited for her ego get promoted to main cast lauren and into the show. So stand up all these funny as women who are making SNL. So best tweeted I'm loving Nice Nice. Nice. You love to see it Lacey Lacey Lacey, thank you so much for coming by today. Monday to who knows who knows where can people find you follow you support you download like subscribe, support all that. What's that you like? Yes, guys is always you can find me at. L. A. Diva Lacy on all platforms if you like scams if you like robbery and comedy listened to my podcast scam, dot his pod. Were scammed out on all platforms in a tweet that I have been enjoying is. This just chef Mac he says Walmart be mad as fuck skinned that PS five as a bell pepper. I can't wait I was about to reorder my thing too but I'm Le Let me say everybody was let me see who don't take money for this ps four I. Let me let I'm not trying to pay full price. preorder is full as people like they were like how you run out of preorder, right? Exactly. Yoda's full I'm probably going to get that shit right around you know first of the year I'll be yeah I'm hoping it'll be that thing where everybody who preordered like takes the L. 'cause like like has like bugs they had to work out and they'll know how could you? Yes Here get them three rings a death at. Sixty. Can I say this I say this I'm on a quest now by the end of twenty. Twenty. I WANNA get to ten thousand followers. Seven point three right, yes. Yes thousand. So listens gang is like. You know like just follow you boy. I don't know why don't make me feel better. I just like we want that round number you know what I'm saying. To you. You don't WanNa see Komo's. Decimal points. y'All get the boy to ten thousand by into twenty twenty. How Me Smash that follow am I rely on my release the new. Release Joking. release. Nude I might go ahead and show you all to meet. You gotta you gotTa. You GotTa do is verify. They follow you on. Again See this. Okay make sure it's not free because I don't want to stumble into. You know I'm not I'm not going Captain America I'm GonNa I'm GonNa make sure that people wanna see and. And if you don't WanNa see, you won't see but you know saying. That I like versus from the onion and it's a picture of like old ask Tom Brady Tom Brady not sure how to ask coach for tape of other teams practice. Another one now this is interesting. Because I'm looking at, it tweet lacy that has a very similar construction and I'm thinking you know that somebody a people might be twitter swag jacket but this week is from at big. Tori with three is and their tweet was scanning the PS five as a bell pepper self-checkout. Which is interesting united. I'm always curious I want to do some digging Alec Luhn timestamps, listen I will say. That the self as okay construction. Joke has. Around for is the belt bell peppers specifically not the Bell Pepper I've seen somebody who they as. Race. But it's always funny. Though is of course but before the for the joke, a joke detective someone's like, okay I'm not a fan of people's feeling jokes either I won't. I'll tell ya off the air one of the biggest jokes dealers on twitter who I've had still my own jokes. Hey. Stay right now we'll bleep it say Renault weep it does open it. Okay. Twitter huge. Slow. Dropped the ball. The team has been fucking kick the fuck over in here. For C. for the people of you want to know what she said follow. Jiechi. Get Him to ten thousand. You see his and we'll uncensored that last part. Okay, then another one I have. To the from Rachel Senate at Rachel Underscore Senate, she said, should go on a jog in L. A. or smoke one, hundred cigarettes because it does still feel a little bit like that, and then another one I just love all the ps five energy like on twitter because whether it's like whether it's black women talking about like what they're trying to do to. Get it for their significant other or what they're planning to do to how to get it for them. It's there's all kinds of conversations from every corner of twitter. Everyone has their own take on PS five. That's how you know how big it is. But this is from underscore its miss breed, which is great. She says, I've been asking my man for money every few days I'm saving it for his PS five he's about to pay for his own shit. Love, that I so loot. Lab that is a such a good scam that was kind of the ones you pull as a kid when you needed to get like cash from your parents and you kept being like lunch money I need lunch money I need lunch money and you're like your stomach hurting because you're saving every fucking dollars like l. let me get. Let me get to the bottom of your chip at real quick. Job Anyway that sounds very specific mile. It is very specific and I did what I had to do to get fitted new era pinwheel hats because I needed to look like every rapper in two thousand one. Okay. I'm. I'm look I do what I had to do. I bought fake Mitchell and ness throwback jerseys proud of it. But then I realized why was I so insecure? What was wrong? We were in the knockoff it's not about the flex he's about spending the money, and then that's when I became an adult. At nine. Wow, that was your transition now worth not I've I've. stunned, even harder. Wasted, even more. A nineteen year old we'll do anyway. 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S3 | Episode 104: Too Many Pills & A Lot of Purple

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S3 | Episode 104: Too Many Pills & A Lot of Purple

"The nonstop flight to Petropolis the final destination copilot's Oh pilots arc. They would would would episode four put. podcast Your Voice de Manto. Oh Sassy ovoid overseas. But I wouldn't do that on. A tone did honor of introducing. Correct me on. I'll take the credit so left. And without a a misstep brought the lovely lace with Lacey. Ms Lacy Cereal are they shouldn't be holding this down for the next few weeks. Show airing full thankful thankful for you to begin. Honestly I'M GONNA take the lead there post host which one do pose like the multiple joints. They ended with the join US three. You'll say look like a lumberjack home. I was like a full text. I'll say Dan and shit like really know where you're at Fox. I'm Armley on my day. Yeah this Nigga tattoos like Yo look relations post year my night. I just love that Hustler Flu Joe I just liked that shit so hard. Thanks pressure like different looks. Yes look ready get ready from the purple gala by now event. So I'm dressed like Miguel. Like look at look at day by. She said the ball. She said the ball it now but thank you thank you thank you definitely appreciate you. And then when she going do is right Safaga everything right she go come bearing gifts. I want to know the issue came with today. uh-huh yes so my wonderful sister we have known each other for years. Yes Erica. CEO Yeah the district bailiffs rebuild. Oh cosmetics yes yes. It's a new baby. I'm a serial entrepreneur as well. I've had a number of endeavors onto my bill. She really we have business partner word vs yes. I had my own mobile juicing business we like the I'm not gonNA say no no. We were choosing around via car at events. Yes we were. We were doing vending events. We were doing win Harrison posing him all kinds of stuff seven. That two shops dishonest. That Lacey worked at. Yeah I may well I had a business partner there and then we partner with Lacey. We did Fresh juicing vegetable smoothies August stuff. This is like twenty twelve twenty thirteen. Yeah we did it. Maybe like two years cannon leg You know our young yeah and then callings in other areas so it Kinda just went by the wayside but we're also really good friend yes and motivation. Don't push each other to do great things everything. Yes so outside of Juiston also have a consulting company Phyo lady so I do. Resume Writing Career Development Development coaching stuff. Like that and I have the district bell which I'm Looking to start marketing doc in promote a little more. I'm in school and are also work fulltime oil. I haven't been able to give him my undivided attention like the Laura say yes. Yeah anyway that sets the head like one. Yeah I title nine going on but yo you wind. I'm blessed your. I WanNa commend all the women that have been meeting lately. Because this is different collectives women helping bigger each other up like it's really know us as men black men especially like we need to take a page out of this book like this Unity Movement Movement like it's like it's hard to go up against one become an as a pack educated facts like business. Mind on go like like what's what's the blonde is called that the horses way when they erase the name on it is calling the blind talk about how the new another name that tunnel vision in to see and is like a collective of different parts of women around the city that I'm that I'm meeting recently. SELENA has this do they do they do it differently too. I like the way to do it though. It'd be them. Random phone calls and texts. You know what I'm saying and then you'll hereby layoff I've heard about it. I just called up and it became this two hour long inspiration and I don't like so like you know what I was saying. I think that's really really. Don't the Dude F whoo each other. You know what I'm saying. That's that's a really really really need that type of Shit right now. I think we fought each other long enough. Yeah it was a long time. Yeah the I think. Black women get the reputation of being like the most confrontational and right now is in two thousand. Nineteen that narrative is being changed. But what we see. See on television what we say in the workplace like your your boss is now a black woman gave the Even in government. You starting to see that more. Oh and more narrative changing then you've raised by a black woman by herself and you see how tough she has to be like seeing this like prosper into onto women run-and-shoot Glamour show. It's funny you say that 'cause my director my full time job is a woman and you know our four. The Metropolitan Police Elise Department of this is one of the largest police departments in at least the East Coast and to see her in action is just like it's crazy. It's like she goes like literally goals. And it's just lie is not you know that stigma of us being angry black women daily is really motivating in all of us to be better to be able to sit in her seat and it's it's rewarding working for her and I have always had that experience working all to be honest. We know like when I'm working behind the Some clients and they're like I have issues with a woman in my office and when I hear those stories I think about those. It's Kinda stories the women that do a live but then when you hear the stories about the women in the office that's trying to like pull the younger ones down. These are the older women and and the younger women are coming in right trying to pull dash right until you know I remember on our first game into the government. It was a woman I was like a lower grade. You know I was entry level trying to get our feet wet into what I wanted to do and you know she just did not want to show. It was like the same time she didn't want to show us the way. DidN'T WANNA show US anything and it was almost like she doesn't baby boomer. So you know that you young folks don't know it was always that it was just like I had to tell her light. If I didn't no I wouldn't be here. I'm not trying to take your spot. I'm trying to learn from Um you. But it was like. She harbored all of her knowledge. She didn't WanNA share at all. You got to share it. Yeah so that brings up this important point or the I dare topic. How do you feel about people who would say you know if you got all these? Three businesses will minus one right You should let go your nine five and focus on this. So you're on the Dushi like dead. Nah that's it's not for me you know and I appreciate commanded by because a lot of time is all you work for other people's dreams you working on no 'cause it's this is my dream. This is what I WanNa do and I always say when I go to work. This isn't my job. This is my career. It's something I'm passionate about. I love what I do and I also love being business owner. So why do I have to choose between the do now. I will be honest and say one may get neglected more than the other. But it's still. My baby is still something that I enjoy doing is still something that I like. It and I don't like it that much that unwilling to quit the other thing that I like in love as well so they both have my attention. They both you know I'd love doing both of them. And I also feel like you know when we were talking off honest that I feel like he's motivational coaches coaches. Everyone gives themselves that title nowadays and I feel like not motivating code. Obviously if you're going to motivating coach I feel like you should give the raw deal now. Lacey in our conversation a number of Charles Pyramid schemes. The pyramid things right and excel no shades. Anybody that does the pyramid thanks. It's not for me though. Like I'm not the type of person that's going to call my friends to come over and get them to sign up until them to build teams now that the but what. I do notice that they use people who have made the million dollar mark or something like that to push the narrative of firing your boss but that's like two percent of entrepreneurs who are successful with these these types of bins businesses. And so you have people quitting their jobs with no oh plan. They don't tell them the bad. The Ugly Com's live entrepreneurship. You're not gonNA make a million dollars like this person. Stand in front of you in the blink of an eye. It doesn't happen that way. They don't tell them about savings they don't tell them what their full wine they don't tell them about making sure they had life insurance and that that they're investing after they are finished working. Those things are not told to them and then you have people who after five years there. China come back to work you know. I think that if you're gonNA spew that narrative the the whole truth and then you know. Everybody had their testimonies that they want to say about. You know I was homeless while I was smarter floors or whatever you know I just think sometimes it just comes off gimmicky to me and I. I just feel like they don't tell the whole entire truth is and we have some who do and we have allow. Don't and I just think that if you're going to spew that until people to quit their jobs help them at least plan for the next two to five years not just living in the now. Yes so I've got a question so you said a in this view you are. You're not if I am. You are passionate about your notified. Yes it's like. I don't think it's nothing wrong with that. Don Passionate about hair. Yeah you are passionate about real estate and you are passionate about everything that you touch and I just think that you know. Who are you detail me that working for whoever I work for is detrimental to my future? I don't understand the logic behind it when I meet with my by clients for my consulting with them and ask them what do you WanNa do. What is your goals? What do you want in half the time they don't know and it's my job? Opt to help got what are what are your skills. What are you good at some time? People don't even know what their talents are. So I just think it's all about you know not trying to get people to sign up and be on your team but to actually get to the root of what is that they're trying to do because everybody is not gonna be Successful as you you are and what you do like. It works every year. Nobody even talks about it anymore. Yeah I think that worked balanced gets left out like some people like is a lot of people generating wealth on their own that that's inspiring them to go out and do their own thing but they may not realize that work life balance has to be sacrificed to actually get what you want to get. And sometimes you're used to a routine of work in a non five coming home in dealing with your family for a certain amount I can buy. You might go towns when you've got to miss out on family birthday party actually good so and it's not GonNa fall out this guy now. SOUTHERN LEARN I gone wanted to business when I started my Juiston business because I didn't know any other entrepreneurs. I didn't know anybody who is doing what we were trying to do. And we learned a lot of stuff through trial. The era and what I learned is that you know when money was coming in he was like. Oh my gosh. It's taking all his money but everything now he I was making was going right back into the business. You know so we will fit on. I win are we going to see part one. Are we going to be able to pocket summit. When are we going to be able to reap the benefits of this? And can't you wait. Yeah this guy was the patients of not being able to win. You make fat thousand dollars in a couple of days you know you WanNa bite off that and you can't because you trying to promote market hiring a business manager product listen understanding that it's not going to be an overnight process and I think sometimes people they just see the money but they don't really see the hard work in the effort goes into the success After a lifetime era to bring free you do a relationship Arthur. Yeah what kind of partner does that. Entrepreneurial Person Need. Somebody would disdain saying this understanding somebody with the same type of driving ambition that you. I'm not saying they have to be entrepreneurs will but they definitely have to be supportive and they definitely have to understand the grind the hustle. and I tell everybody if you're going to have a business partner they have to match your hustle because at the end of the day one is always going to feel selector doing something more than the other if they don't have that same time of You gotta be able to talk about it. If I'm stronger good at doing this. I have no problem Khalil Nest if this is your area expertise but we gotta both be putting state amount of time effort and if you don't have that same drive at will as your partner pardon is not gonNA work out definitely agree with the Iana if you don't work as hard as me you can't work with what's going on today a they keep your nine five nine job to do both do i. If you want the funding make the fund. Yeah where there you know what I'm saying. If you decide to quit make sure you have a savings for those days when business slowdown or you know. You can't is just now now moving Will money something you gotTa make sure you have some plan line. The don't just quit because in the first couple months Stack you feel like you WANNA go place. You GotTa have a backup plan because they are going to be times. When it's now going away you go and you questioning whether you made the right decision on that so I worked my succeed? Yes rule of plants. It should be a rule of thumb. I'm to like at least save up if your job allows you like save up three years of your salary that you can live off a budget for yourself and and be able to live off that for at least three years. You're going to go through some growing pains trying to start this business so if you if your job affords you to do that and do that Eh your job. Doesn't you gotTA keep that job. Yeah funny used it because I was I do have a business partner with this. Who's more like a silent partner? But I was so passionate about this. I literally depleted my savings like I just felt in my spirit that this was something that I should be doing now. Not Outside of the fact that cosmetics is a booming UH industry but the fact that you are helping people feel confident themselves you know things of that nature so it was just like I just I literally the pleaded my savings because I was like I know that this is a prayed on it and I was like this is something I'm supposed to do and I was just telling. Lacey is not boom boomer like I wanted to right now and I'm fine with that because I'm being patient. 'cause I know that eventually it will be where I WANNA be wanted to be but I just I just said you know. I am a duly in. I literally every dime. I had my savings starting to cosmetics line. Take the road yeah. You don't caressed like you want here. Because I have a fulltime job. I kinda was able to do that because you know I know in two weeks. I'm GONNA have a different deposited poverty here. Mike how does you feel like when starting this You got any negative fee ads almost discovers excursion. Yeah somebody told me. Why would you do this when you have black? Matte people have MAC and Sephora you know my thing was well nobody Addition the bill is homage to the DMV the district DC. Nell means beautiful woman and so you know everything is tailored to DC culture in DC NEIGHBORHOODS DC events. Everything so like I have lipstick or Mumbo sauce I have like my palate is called the metropolitan because DC is known for diversity. Different shades colors so everything I put a lot of thought into this and so and new branding is Beautif Beautif yet. You're going to have people who feel like you know. This ain't GonNa work for you or you have competitor's but I'll always at McDonald's now worried about Wendy's nope actually the fried chicken fight yeah so it's just like I can't worry about where we were. And what did that do that. Actually drove bins for both. Yes yes yes yes Yanna what Riano was like. Oh Mac is already in existence. What's the point rain? County may may the level that no one saw coming. So why can't you be that person. Yeah and then delicious light all is so DC so people DC the previous because they feel DC. Okay I was told you know people in. DC really don't support you. This is what was told to me and how you're going to be able to market DC. He culture too like La in you know things like fly a why not from his his show. You wanted to be everything being affiliated with DC. Absolutely this was going to raise like why not feel like. It's nothing like this here like. Of course there's people here who have their own cosmetics line but I feel like you know when you actually look at the site in you get an understanding of why I call certain products like I have my new lipstick. Here is called foggy bottom them. So it's like autumn new bottom. I'm just like it's so. DC Lucky guess just gotta put together it makes sense to me so if alight once people get clear understanding of why is branded this way didn't Up and whether they in DC LA Atlanta whatever. I think that the product accelerated speak for herself. So but like I don't know makeup okay right so my question is Y Do you believe women choose the brains they choose. I think one because of the quality can I just think everybody chases the label is a label. You know what I mean. It's just like we were talking about I was reading an article While I was on instagram. And they're talking about how celebrities while A. Oh how. We don't support other entrepreneurs other African American designers and things like that but they promote Gucci Fendi for free correct recreation and sell. Why don't they do the same for us? And then it was like you know all we always WANNA deal. We never want to support our friends and play full price price. We always WANNA deal. We always want this count and stuff like that and we're why do we think that other people don't do the same thing uh-huh why we think that outside of our community I think. I think it's just a stigma. That's yes that's generation from generation to the job two jobs who owns toward me. Poor I see why do a mortgage in a more say in the beginning you so you want. It's like I'm not even originally from this area and I would say that would be true from the area. I came from so I just think. Urban areas has had the reputation of of not supporting the people who are from Nick and even with us like I found like strangest would comment and likened Wanna purchase things more than the people surrounding us. So how did it last is true to a certain extent but then you also find that there are groups of friends that play. You know what I'm ain't gonNA probably aware that joint but let me buy more. I'm not gonNA use it but let me just support you and I'm seeing that more like you know even i. I don't really do the pyramid thing. I refer people you know and you know or you know. I know. Somebody's sail hair or I know somebody to do this. We'll try why not have a travel coming. I may the the one that sign up but I will definitely tell people about it. They're on enquiring about it. I'm not GonNa you know not spread the word because it's something that I'm not personally interested in but I think that's a form of support to in any even if you've got four hundred followers four hundred people that Santa didn't see before I didn't see staples so we also got to do that too when we in conversations at the we just met someone who has their own business. You know you just talk anybody. Oh I saw this new oh Goo Chiharean. His name linear mention your friend. Like your friend name and a bunch of Bob Chevrolet. Okay I just did it. I was in a barbershop. A guy was in action talking. About how much does it cost. Usually Take Uber from the hotels in the area to the airport. I do forty five out there like we have you you opportunity to promote someone else right than in say like if you put it put out there. Oh you might as well go ahead. Five shouted out for four hundred five Limoux or like when When all was about to go back to Nigeria? He was like something about hit at least talks. Talks about the here people. Yeah you have to do that. Don't into Congress. I mean that's the thing that's going to bring money into the community period right you know so so we we have to support the small business. People don't understand that that small businesses actually make the world go round exactly so you have to support them. I love it got rubbed. Yes see like when our senior water by black the win. That's like nothing against any other race but we've been down office along so this year is that we should know. I should never even be automatic theory. Should we gotta deal with reality as Zane and say we acknowledged that we shouldn't be easiest way but I only say let's get it right now but we separated message right and support black yes de-facto so have poor black business all at But as we spreading word what do you wanna a spread is a released to this. Old opioid crisis going on Info. The drugs rest in peace juice world. Anyone anyone else probably and countless others are a lot of them. I don't own a by name. Countless a little peek patrol Pepsi and Pepsi has been I wanted I. He like one of the first death from overdose from lean. Yeah no no no they have a really popula Apollo. Dj Out there Screw DJ scored. How Houston has their own slowdown music? One in like the forefathers authors event movement that from from our worst by the go with this. Because I'm never say oh you spreading the word. So what were you spread on. Ohi Use the light from would how you just put it just now I wanted to ask you. What was the theme that you're starting to see athletes is glorified icee everybody out today where you don't have is you can't blame the robbers but you can you? You can't music is a music just like I was talking to a friend of mine about Disney a one of the cartoons. Have kids the two boys kissing or something like that right and I would just like you know. Why does that have to be on Disney? Like I am nothing against their will be community city but my question is these are kids that children in the you know. It's just a we feed all it's our psyche. If they're not recommend is this is called television program appropriate thing that we're watching mission to a message being fee to alter your reacts with live reality. You think they're trying to alter it. Could I mean the message could be. We want you to start to get used to certain lifestyle that you may not not see on a regular basis but it may also encourage people to change their path that they might have been on to adopt a lifestyle just out of curiosity and you look at the ages of these guys to like. I'm thirty six. I don't listen to Ju- Swirl I don't have kids like I think fabulous His son's favorite rapper. His son is what like eight or nine years old. So the fact that you can you imagine him listening to in in. That's his favorite rob around lean. You know it's just like you don't think any kind of way these kids may say. Oh well I WANNA try whatever eighty yeah I just think it's the law and they don't have the tough skin that we had because AH everything was face to face so sometimes you know you had to deal with your bully like face to face and they get the high behind the computer screen the phone so I think the adapted more to this depression lifestyle so when they're hearing that constantly I'm depressed and this is what I do to cope. If they're dealing with any type of drama through social media in school or they're trying to avoid bullies or whatever and their favorite artists is saying like. This is the remedy for your depression. While Whitney may try you right like the music is so dark I felt like when we were growing. We F- feel we'll use. We have failed to necessarily correct others. Like what what. Today's kids go through so dark ended. Like you said the president is just like you. You don't own really understand like you. You're blessed for your blessed in. It's just like I don't understand that they're making something up in their head that they come from bad areas. Yeah you are. You know what I'm saying like they WANNA fit in that glorified Lysol Langas if it if it if the thing to do then. That's where they're going to do. Do Think Associated Economic Ninety to get technical expanding. I think in the context debt in the Eighties Union nineties. These are I think it was more commonplace for everybody. Fill it there was on the same wave and now social meeting opportunity to peek into into the lives of what you imagine life to be. It becomes depressed because everything you see something. Unattainable feels unattainable. The lives kids are trying to like we was young. Like still coming into your home. You know what I'm saying so as you come into your own and you're seeing shit that you desire Ziya. You know what I'm saying out the gate that you can never have And then you see that lifestyle and you see what they're going through because they realized they got had everything we often at all. So now you ingest in all that is a normality and I think that's what it is. They seen in different back then we was all on the same wavelength bliss. So even though Our poverty or whatever's all going through it always saying million man march went through six. You're so you think about that time like we were astill like all like locked in now for Cenex Jude. Up See jewel does that that that's a I don't know what's real and what's false via it's like you can create this life. That's what I know so mobile do that and I say they act like we don't know the for real. No you have an table to have a social media liar. A in rural life broke. Shit be yourself. Yeah I mean it's literally honest about your day focus on. How many likes taking gear or you know and immediately got a recall how you enjoy the moment if you trying to capture options? Yup that's why I have a hard time about fat. Like everyone is is an illusion like you were dish dry a couple of seconds of in your phone around you and let us know and you watching this. Now this is really my entertainment. peeves about social media and people in The new outside funny the new outside like all you gotTa to do is just be seen also media. You're singing we you know back. In the day we went outside we hung out we. You know what I'm saying like. We saw people actually face to face ace. So now you're you can make up your life. Yeah on the side. I should have to get around Dan Apostle creativity because that shit is fucking amazing but you know what else like. Our communities was so much smaller. We didn't have a D. social networks. I gave the neighborhood brave so so so you had to be that chick that do actually twenty four seven. They couldn't before a fifteen second clip so the people who saw you get your new outfit when you got paid so how dirty you were so you. I can't really flex too hard but now in Asia is get this outfit I can go buy something in return like a whole lot of fraud because people don't come outside normal. Yeah I've heard people say I can't post it because I post Post is at this elephant on instagram. Like you're supposed to wear your clothes. The they wore this outfit for a pitcher. They won't because they don't WanNa see repeat repeated pieces the viewers watch you the people who watch it will comment on. Why do you care so much man I saw you went? I actually see you wear that. They won't vote if no not me I'm saying I'll read it. I left but like you said it's a sure is a pair of pants dress. Hang ally look when I got a pair of jeans and I'm fucking I'll go to my God. See those nagging instagram. Our our loving those fucking book real real it actually the real the real is recreating the look like be able to use the same shit paint a different picture. They Vancouver the area on when you guys shopping. You Got Avenue our office and it wasn't shirt shirt last month and I know how to know how to dress like I will remember that. You GotTa know how we're we're shopping for my son was like no he only got a twelve outfits. I w