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For the first time in thirty five years the Super Bowl while team from LA. That's right LA will be represented at Super Bowl fifty three in only the third season back in town. The Rams have a shot to win it all they beat the New Orleans Saints in overtime controversy, regardless. The rent are going to lamp New England Patriots against the Rams Super Bowl. Fifty three Bill clashing would join it was the L A you as the teacher strike has affected. Not only educators, parents and students my brother principal. My daughter did not go to school for what about the athletes are on Heimer gives us an update on how sports would resume. Welcome to the arrive early. Leave late podcast. I'm your host. It's Wendy January twenty third. Now, stay with me here. This is going to be my bad TV reporter impression. Okay. Bill plaski. You're going to the Super Bowl to cover the LA Rams. How does that sound bento Beto first off you got to start with the story? I wrote last week in Thursday's edition of the LA times, yet another reason fans who want to know the truth before it becomes the truth. Need to read the LA times. Sports section carriage, you paragraph of my story last week bento 'cause you may have forgotten it feel free there. Mr. Plaski might be considered. A gesture prick Rams victory. But this jazz version of the Rams is more powerful voodoo as a folks in Orleans. We'll discover when the outsiders go marching in Sunday and knocked the saints more senseless than a frat boy on bourbon street. Just in case you forgot that. That's what I wrote more powerful than voodoo. I'm standing by that of frat boy on bourbon street, Bill Plaski. And guess what happened the Rams one? How 'bout that Nostra donnas plaschke's here? How about that? Look at you. It's amazing when I wrote it Sunday, I questioned whether to put it in estimation point next to it. But I had to and you'll see it's like the third or fourth paragraph. My story the Rams are going to the Super Bowl. Exclamation point. It's amazing three years only been in town three years and they're going to the Super Bowl the freaking Super Bowl. It's amazing. I love hearing your energy about this. It's only the biggest sports event in the country. And it's the first time in thirty five years in LA team has been in there. I wanna know. So I don't know. I I'm forty years old. And I don't remember team being in. I don't remember the last time it happened. The raiders played beat the Redskins. I don't I don't remember that game. I was five. I don't remember that game ever happening. Yeah. Well, it it's. Anyways. The first time in thirty years LA's been involved in his biggest event, so the entertainment capital of the world is involved in the entertainment sports event of the year. So yeah, it's a pretty good mix. It's pretty crazy. And I think a lot of pride and being from LA I don't root for teams. But whenever LA is represented, well and put on a pedestal and put on a big stage Amal about it. Yeah. I think at our at our sports section. We do not root for teams. But I do root for the city. I want to city to well people saying how can you rip USC football or how can you with the dodgers, you know, when they lose their and they do something poorly. The embarrassed the city it's all about the city, and when they do, well, they have you praise him when you do. Well, many do bad because it's about representing L A just like you said, and I'm all about LA and the Rams make Elliot good right now. Now Bill I told you I don't remember the last time there was team in the super blind raiders history. I know was there. I didn't watch it. I don't know anything about it for somebody who's even younger than me put this in perspective of what it's like to have your team in the Super Bowl. Now, he says the biggest thing in the world. But if you. No, you just don't know bento. I don't know. I've been I've been a columnist. It's been thirty five years. I've only been to pay thirty one years. So I don't know either. But we do know. I mean, I've I've covered this'll be my twenty seconds bowl covering it. So I know what is like I know how to cover it. And you get there in this craziness. I don't know what it's going to be like the city, whether people are gonna be, and I think people I'm going to write this in the LA times this week. I think having to patriots involved in the game will galvanize LA 'cause everybody hates New England. I hate the patriots. I hate Bella check. I hate Brady. They're cheaters they're era that they always win. I'm sick and tired of the patriots. And I think Ellie fans will agree. It's Boston to plus is Boston. Now, Boston LA. I just sat there in a press box. Watch Boston celebrate in Dodger Stadium less than three months ago, or the people that are going to go to the Super Bowl, what kind of spectacle, is it. I've never been to one while the tickets are like three grand now on and. You know, what it's worth it for one game because you feel like you're in the center of the universe, and it's so well done and so well executed and every play everything happens is history. Everything happens to this game history. The ramps can make history, and I almost speaking of history. I thought I was history last week. When almost gotten a fight with Marcus Peters. What did you read about that? Yeah. What's his deal with you? Well, I have him during the press conference last week to evaluate his performance for the season. It he got burned by the saints last time. So I gotta ask the question. And he says we're not done yet. And I said, no, no you personally what about your season? He says we're not done yet. They look so many says what are you getting at? And of course, he knew say I'm getting at that you've been dolphins'll this season said he goes in his big rambling diatribe about how you have to be down and get back up. And everything was all it was fine. It was good. And then he says it's like when you you have a bad day. Don't want to come to work. Don't you have bad days? Sometimes. And I said, honestly, my dad has been going great until this and I got a bad day now. And and he looked at me that's a bad question. I said, no, it's not anyway, the highlighted Super Bowl week is media day with media night. It'll be Monday night all the players available. I'm going to be Marcus Peters podium listened everything he says 'cause he's off the hook. He'll say anything his whole thing leading up to the saints game was about how you wanted to pay back Sean Payton for insulting him in the previous meeting, and he said after we beat them we're going to have an ice little bowl Gumbel. So I go up to him after the game Sunday and Gary Klein, the tremendous tremendous LA times beat writer says, okay, Marcus, how about that Gumbo is all I will just bowl bleep in you guys. I don't rely Gumbel goulash. So that's Marcus Peters in he'll be he'll be one of the characters that the Rams had. They don't have a lot of characters. Jared Goff is pretty dole robbers is pretty good talker Todd Gurley. Not a good talker. Aaron Donald not a great talker, sues not a great talker. But Marcus Peters he'll be all over the place during the SuperBowl week now Pasquale when you cover the Super Bowl as a columnist. You get to write whatever you want pretty much, right? That's right. So normally I go and try to get like the offbeat stories people in the shadows. I didn't wanna my most read super will stories of the last couple years was when the falcons were playing the patriots in Alex Mack on the falcons offensive lineman. I asked him during the media day at in the what to ask them. And so I said, you know, what who's best player you've ever seen play. He's used from Santa Barbara. And he gave me the name of this guy. Nobody ever heard of this guy. I never heard of this guy and his name escapes me as we speak. But I track this guy down and did a column on this. Former high school hero who Alex Mack had cited as a one of. His greatest players guy phone on our times. So those kind of weird stories offbeat stories I like to do. But this time I'm gonna probably have to in want to comment on everything that's going on on the right one this week about how we hate the patriots right about Todd Gurley is should he be playing more? What happened? What's the deal with Todd Gurley? I'm gonna be writing about Marcus Peters. What's the deal with the craziness of Marcus Peters? You know, somebody was in somebody will say something nuts. Something will happen. It always does. And I'll become end on that story wrote about Alex Mack was his high school teammate, Marcos high dunking Cryer Dunkin Cryer. That's right. You went and found his those kinda stories that we're expect from Plaski all week long at Super Bowl as the time sending their entire football staff out there Plaski, your client covers the beat Sam farmer, then some and then some and then some other times to be the spot where you wanna go. Are you are you going to are you going Bill? I'm not going, but after listening to you, and you the way you're talking about it. I am hype. Wbt for it. How much of L in on this? They're all in all in. I've seen the brand new rans caps. And I'm okay with it car flags. Yeah. I'm okay with it. Because look take some civic pride in people. Because a lot of football fans are fair weather. They're not too sure about it. But when you start winning, hey, they will show up. You know, the name of the podcast arrive early leave late if you win we get there early. We leave Lee we celebrate you what bigger stage in the Super Bowl. And it's the only sport of it. I've never covered, and I'm tempted to just say you let I'll go as a fan because you never know when this might happen again. Dan Marino went to one Super Bowl, right? And also history. It's history to watch something like it's history. It's everything happens. This historic the first off to the last buzzer. Guess how many ranch have been to the Super Bowl? How many Rams on this team yet to to while? I'll say six only two Hemi patriots have been a Super Bowl all of them. They were just there last year. I mean, okay. Let me ask you this. As a LA columnists do. Do you hate Tom Brady? Yes. I said that earlier. I mean, do you really mean that? Yes. Oh, obsessed domain. I don't mean I'm on this podcast, spewing smack no heat. She did he shady or footballs. Deflated? He cheated. Now, do I respect him as a greatest quarterback ever? Yes. That write a column last year saying he's harder and harder to hate. Yes. Still hate him. Look at the video. They did they did a video that he and gronk did on Instagram right after they beat the chiefs. You watch tell me how smug day are. Yes. I hate to patriots. And a like getting about them. I love getting your up low. They haven't done it the right way to my opinion and anti keep doing it. And they keep getting away with it. Yeah. So what do you hate them? They have the spy gate. There's been by two gates in football spy gate, deflate gate there in the middle of both of them teams have to watch themselves things stolen under lock rooms. They come to the games the way the games are played the way they bend the rules. They've done it all along. They think they're better all that. They're great. They're the greatest combination of coach player in a history of probably sports, not just football. It's time to see their era end. And we thought the ended last year. When Philadelphia beat him in the Super Bowl. And I was so happy. I was watching in the press box writing my story in the Superdome Sunday watching the patriots chiefs game cheering for the chiefs. Really no cheering the press box the hell with that. Chiefs. Oh, absolutely. Wouldn't have been better Super Bowl. Anyway, I don't wanna see the damn patriots again. Of trying to keep it together. I know you really feel like that. That's why I'm trying to poke you a little bit. But my goodness. You come in strong the day LA Super Bowl victory for the Rams. What was it do for LA civic pride? It'd be it'd be huge again. It's not it's not Lakers. Dodgers. Yeah. They'll have a parade. I'll be interested to see how big the parade is three honest with you because you know, they're based in Thousand Oaks, of course, they play in the Coliseum. You know, the dodgers haven't done anything this winter. The Lakers are complete mess in. Lebron James those tires may be ready to blow on him. He's been out for a month. Now a month. USC football's under a huge huge chaos with because he kept Klay Hilton. Usually football's was terrible chip Kelly. You know, you say basketball than ever coach. It's there's a lot going on. That's not great. This really get us through to least till the dot Tila next summer when the dodgers maybe can have a chance to go back to World Series Bill plash key covering his first Super Bowl, featuring an L A team and time. With times as always Bill. Thank you so much check all your coverage from SuperBowl fifty three and a stick me into the press box. If you give me all hate the patriots too. Good luck. You know, the security still tough into Super Bowl. You can't sneak in anywhere. But you ought to come down bento. Wait, don't prediction. Oh, are you allowed to give a prediction? I'm allowed to pay paid to do. Did it last week? And I gotta right. Again, I want to hear the Super Bowl fifty three. Rams patriots. Bill perdition is Rams twenty eight twenty four rans of bring it home. Baby. Say I'm not rooting for just fact, it's just fact that Brady Bill checker, brilliant, and great and all that. But the Rams just have more firepower. They have too many weapons. They're patriots are not quick enough in athletic enough to keep up with them. The Rams witness twenty eight twenty four I'm calling it right here. I'm calling it. And I want you back on the podcast in two weeks to give me plaudits. Give me my props for calling this game correctly. Okay. Bill. You're coming on podcast in two weeks matter what? All right. You have you on the podcast and you'll say, I am the king. Let's say Bill you're on the king. I'll say that right now. Once I get back on here. Lay Bill Plaski. All right. Thank you. Could always Plaski brings strong great coverage all week long from SuperBowl. Fifty three in Atlanta, coming your way from the LA times sports department. I think everybody is going and that Super Bowl between the patriots. And the Rams will of course feature. Some kind of southern California ties off the top of my head. I think it's Robert woods with the Sarah. Hi and USC is receiver for the Rams. But I'm not gonna pretend like I know who's doing the man who knows everything about prep sports the guru. He does it all it's a one man band covering it seems like eight million schools in southern California, the one in only Eric Sondheim Eric ridge for years from your daily Newsday's to your Elliot thirty six TV days with Randy rosenbloom watching you. And now you cover southern California sports, not just approach. Also do horseracing right? Yes. And I have horses. So I have to be careful about that. Then we'll go another subject. But the reason I really wanted to get you in here before. We get into the other stuff is Super Bowl fifty three. There's an LA connection here. I mentioned rubber woods, but it seems like every single year. There's somebody that you probably saw in high school playing in the Super Bowl. What's it? Like watching those kids grow up. Well, it's so much fun. Because typically, they're really prominent in these games, you know, Malcolm Smith tavern is was a Super Bowl MVP and just keep developing it used to be John Elway playing a lot into SuperBowl from Granados icicle. And this year is going to be fun to see Robert woods out of Gardena. Sarah. Of course, yet eliminate Michael Thomas out of Taft, the great receiver for the saints and New England Patriots have the annual game were Matthew Slater gets to announce what coin flip he's gonna be selecting. It was very important last week. He's our survey. He won the coin flip that got Tom Brady the ball. Now, you mentioned those players at the top of your head. I didn't tell you Eric would players already knew you knew. But the reason before we get to the Super Bowl and other stuff. And so the California sports the L A you as the teacher strike, really affected. Not just the parents. I'm one of them. My daughter goes to. A school in San Pedro. My brothers are principal at mesas high in may would and I didn't really talk to him about that. I didn't talk to the teacher friends. I have I was reading you. I really just narrow down my Twitter to just sports like I got rid of all the politics people. I got rid of the people. I just have sports. I see your tweets Allott, and you were out there frontline the first day tweeting about how this is a fighting, the student athletes, of course, there for school in education, but athletics play such a huge role in high school life, especially in your senior because you're working toward that their senior nights. How did the teachers strike affect departments? A clearly had a huge impact. And these kids as you said, they're athletes, and they're also students they work so hard, and the fact that they have nothing to do out there. And they won't let them do anything. They've closed the gyms they shut down the soccer fields. They wouldn't let them play baseball. So it's had a huge impact. But it's only been a week. And I think they'll be able to overcome that with a lot of help from different people. They gotta get the schedules back ongoing. Some gains will be lost permanently. And that's the. Sad part for a senior year. You're looking forward to all these rivalry games. And somehow they're going to try and see how many of these gained can get rescheduled. But as it stands require one practice. These one practice each team had before they restart to season. And I think that's fair. Lots of teams Polly could use two or three practices. It just depends on how much students were actually working out on their own during this strike. I read that the Westchester basketball team got together in a park somewhere else. So the players weren't allowed to be on campus practicing at all there were no coaches allowed to be directed them in practices, and because the facilities were mostly used had auditory gyms filled with students, whatever they were doing would have been very difficult for them to use that during the school day, but after schools these schools were locked down so players only practices were allowed to some of these players may want to become future coaches. So they're getting tested by running the practice, and they weren't getting paid. So they'll be used coats in the future. So Lindsey I can. Just go and watch the Westchester team at some elephant nece, and they're running. That's kind of what was going on. Right. Exactly facts. Their star guards, eight Anderson rub McRae were signed themselves coaching duties, so we're going to see which one of those people are going to be a future coach, and what did the coach actually listened to them? Now that they've run their teams for what? Now right now, it's basketball soccer season basketball soccer water polo and wrestling of right on the baffling gets the big Maine's. But if you're a wrestler or watercolor, most likely you're not gonna play in college or you're not going anywhere else. After that. I feel bad for the kid who's worked so hard for this the wrestlers my nephew's a wrestler where you're trying to cut wait for a match. And then there's nothing there. Right. And for the city six next week is the the dole meats, and they just have to get back into shape. So they're really not gonna miss his much, but they've missed coaching for a week. And hopefully, those athletes were doing what they could do at home or in a gym just trying to stay in shape. Them must have been hard for a coach who has. These young men and women listening to them with their molding them, they're making them into better adults. And that's the beauty of sports is where you learn how to work as a team, but not being able to communicate with them. You spoke with lot of coaches said s poly, the hardest part is you can't help the kids who trust you. Remember, the strike thirty years ago at nineteen Eighty-nine nine it came right before the baseball playoffs, and the parents and the kids were furious at the coach for walking out because they thought it might prevent the playoffs from even happening and there was real hatred going on between all those individuals. Luckily ended right before the baseball playoffs. The city follow got played a Dodger Stadium people eventually made up this time haven't noticed as much animosity going on between the parents, and the coaches, I think they felt it was going to be over in a week, and they could overcome this as long as the playoffs get taken place, and it appears that's what's going to happen. What I expect to city section to do is expand the playoff brackets. They will allow more teams in for those that are rescheduled in basketball and soccer. And so nobody should be left out of the playoffs. But the seniors will miss. Out on some games that could add to their stats or their memory. So how does this affect the state playoffs without affect the metal because the strike is ending. It will not affect the state because we're going to start on time and everybody will be fine. It's just a matter of gin. Fairfax in Westchester to the top teams in the state there were reaching peak form and now they've been off for a week. So you got to get back into that mental capacity to be ready. But the game is set for Friday. I'm looking forward to being out there at Westchester. How do an administrator's reschedule games? I coached JV baseball for two years in Carson late nineties trying to figure out what I wanna to do. And if there was ever rain, forget it. They're not scheduling your game. There's no bus. They're not rescheduling. How are they gonna figure out a way to reschedule all these made up games to find officials to find ministers? How do they do that? Well, the officials are graciously not going to charge them for changing have a fee, they usually charge when you change the game this time, they're not gonna do it. But because there's only one week left in the regular season. That's what I don't think. Many of these games going to reschedule lots of teams already playing three. Games next week. They could pay off Thursday or do multiple gains. They fficials that were previously assigned can do those games. So I don't think that's the main problem. Let it directors wrong strike. So now they have to come back and get back to their computers and get it going. My goodness. It's been a big mess year. Because I would see your tweets in the morning. You take pictures of Garfield high team or people sending you pictures of their coaches, and you know, every single coaching every single school. What was the reaction from some of these coaches when the reaching out to you because they know that they can use you to get their message out. Also, I was surprised that they were pretty enthusiastic, you know, usually coaches are negative about everything. But maybe those are the football coach this season had already ended in their tired. And they want to go out there picket. I think the basketball coaches were a little boy because they want to get back to playing, and I know the kids were because they're stuck at home. Most of them didn't go to school. I help everybody knows that not, you know, the attendance dipped badly. So I think those kids were out playing video games. The hopefully they were out at the twenty four hour fitness trying to get better individually and a Cup of actually scheduled practices. What about recruiting our callers coaches allowed to watch these games right now. Right basketball, could go out and watch them. But I think maybe the waiting for the playoffs. So I don't think it's going to affect that much, but football recruiting was the city sets coaches were not around this past week was when college coaches could go out and make visits and start looking ahead next year. Yes. So some of these cities schools have not been visited by college coaches, and so some of the underclassmen necessarily of left out we're left out and being seen. So we're here in January this time, we're collegial USC UCLA picking visit a high school and see like the juniors sophomores, and that was done that was so like Narbonne several coaches wanted to go out to Narbonne and talk to people, but the coach Douglas was not gonna come in and let them in because he's on strike, and he's not going to do that. But he basically told them, you know, who the players are Souza's over with. We'll. Try and get things going. Wow. So many things affected by Elliot's with strikes. They'll get back in there. They're gonna played and they play offs or not affected. So it could have been worse if this would have been maybe another week another couple days, I think it would have been extremely difficult to revise the playoffs. And again, it would have been an even bigger mess as it stands. I think things will work out. Maybe the teens won't play as well. Maybe they'll be more fouls being called by the officials. Maybe everybody will being an ordinary mood. But I think they'll be in a happy mood. They just get out there and go and the Fairfax Westchester game. You'd better get there early because seats will be a premium will be Fairfax that will be at Westchester Westchester for. I don't know flea has gone to those high school game. Yes. What is it about high school sports that you just love covered? I just think the stories are so great you find not just a superstar athletes, but others are trying to overcome things and you see the teamwork. It's not like it wasn't the past where you had community schools where people in the neighborhood went to the schools. We all know how it's. Chains. People get to pick and choose transfers all the time. But the coaches are in it for mostly for the right reasons than sewer, the kids, you have some crazy parents. But for the most part, it's fun. It's enthusiastic, and it's a little bit unpredictable. We don't know who's gonna win that Westchester Fairfax game. And they've had some great reiver's through the years. I remember when I was watching Trevor Aretha out their fellow announcer. Saint I pay twenty dollars for the student three because he was six eight and he shouldn't be shooting threes. But now he's one of the best points years in the NBA. So you never know how people are going to develop when you see these young kids was to say Trivet or James harden, go from high school. I mean, they were cream of the crop of high school kids. You know, you do the special, but when they get to that level. Do you take some pride and saying, hey, I saw him win. Because I know I do when I see Russel Westbrook. I knew him when I did popular on cable. Russell in eleventh grade didn't play much he had a big foot until everybody's wanna Pakistani. Yeah. Right. Sure. And now look like I take pride and fiend those kid like, wow, that's pretty cool. Particularly those that like to come back. To their communities and offer help that to me is the most important thing. I mean, one of the first duper stars. I got to cover was Bret Saberhagen at Cleveland high school through a no hitter in the city finals was drafted by the Kansas City Royals sign. It was in the World Series within two or three hundred twenty one. Yeah. And so, but he stayed humble. And and everybody like that. And that's the best. John Elway was the first star athlete. I really covered back in nineteen seventy six and went to Granada hills high school when you get the cover a hall of Famer in your very first situation it raises expectations a little bit. But the fact that he maintained communication with his coaches through the years, even though he was echoed is only three years memory and mood from Washington the come down here. And so those are the kids that I really liked that keep coming back and helping their former coaches and their schools maintain committed Jean Carlos Stanton was just back this past week Notre Dame high school being inducted into their school hall of fame. And he's always back at the baseball field hitting balls with fences, breaking windows, and. So it's nice to see all these kids coming back, not no longer kids. But they're they're very rich. And also. Very helpful. Do you? Remember the first time you saw somebody. And you're okay. This kid is going to be a startling which one just stood out to bounds. It was always Elway. Because he knew the ball. Unlike any other quarterback MB, right? And the also played a little bit of basketball, but because of his arm strengthened velocity. I'll never forget he was just different than every other quarterback before. And since you have to remember back in those days. Everybody would say he's the next Elway. He's an ex Elway's. And I would just roll my eyes because I knew there were not be another Elway. He was so unique in the way he threw the ball. And yeah, there's been some great quarterbacks, but nobody quite his arm strength that I've ever seen. Right. He was unique in also because his father was a coach that certainly helped the hall of fame. Both hammer has good I for talent. This your Super Bowl. You mentioned Matthew Slater, Robert woods and their kids that you saw also coming up, there's some others from southern California. But those are the main ones I remember in covering them from LA area. When you see these kids like Pfleger his dad was office of Lyman Jackie Slater. And he's small he's in the super every year. And it seems like Matthew Slater with the patriots at UCLA. He was okay. But it wasn't somebody will really make a big deal. Robber woods on star teams. Gardena Sarah at USC was solid. Buffalo put to sea has the super I think every single year. There's got to be somebody that you've covered in voice. It's getting close, but not every year, but proper woods in particular is such a great story. I remember him in ice goal in the first big story wrote about it was about as sister. She had died of cancer, and he opened up about that. And he was such a great person at definitely affected him. And you see it as every step of the way. He's so nice to people. He's great to come back to his hometown team. He played for USC. And so it's a great story. Just to see what he's been able to accomplish the school loves him. Like, nobody owls, and is this the great role model for everybody. How many schools do you cover? Well, you have to understand. It's everybody in southern California from San Luis Obispo to San Diego close to the Sanyu line. And you go out to animal. Valley. So it's it's hundreds of schools, but not like they cover everyone. I am responsible. And I could write if something happens in those areas, but my main job is to kind of highlight trends that are happening in southern California. And also, go out to games that are outstanding involve a talented athletes. Would I really respected admire about you're not just that you cover everybody in this day and age has a camera and they're now prep gurus. Prep insiders and the other websites and the only worry about the top five things Bosco monitor. Here we go. That's it. You are worried about the division twelve team. You're worried about animal. Jackie robinson. I remember you wrote about Huntington park high school played in the state championship playoff. They went down. I think many Collier El Centro, and you went with them. I think reading those stories because for me high school sports is still pure, even though many ways, but still because the kids still don't know how to interview they still don't know what they don't know. And they still have that pride of plane for their school. And when you unearth a kid from boron or acting? I kid you not I know more. About southern California cities by reading you. I've learned where vascular is all these Temecula schools that popped up overnight because you're writing about them. How do you find these stories a lot of it has to do with coach is setting in suggestions, and so forth and also just looking around and seeing what subject with created interesting stories because it is a challenge. I don't wanna just write about LA Orange County want to explore outside of those areas. And I need to introduce people. It has got to be a story that again is has a bit of a trend that everybody or some- somebody is affected by Yellen the family situation. So it's fun to go out there and not just to cover. I could cover the training Li every week because they are the best in football. But it's not good for me. It's not good for our readers. We know they're good. But wanna find other people somebody who's been around for so long? I remember the community's goals. And I still think that's very important to try and recognize those schools that are doing their best under difficult circumstances. When I go and speak to different high schools. I try. Talk to journalism classes, and believe me there's still some out there believe it or not and I try to speak to L A unified. I went to Carson high school play baseball there. I all my friends are mostly Ilias teachers. I get that sense of this home. I take a lot of pride in. So the city section for me. I I still take that pride in. It's sad to see. I went to the Carson Garfield football game this year. I look across the stand on Raleigh who played at Notre Dame. And UCLA is the coach's son is the quarterback. I look in the stands not many people there. I go to John Bosco game. And I see some people in the stands like, wait a minute. You're from Carson your kids should be just a different time. My son is an eighth grade. I'm trying to figure out if he's gonna go to Baltimore loyal, even though he lives in Carson. I'm changed things up things change, maybe sometimes for the better. But you understand why? If you have an elite athlete, why kids are leaving mayhem beach. Like Josh Rosen to go to things off why these kids are going different places. But when you reach back and you write about the community schools. It just seems like there's so much pride still in there that people want to represent four whatever school they're wearing right? If you've never gone to. A Garfield Roosevelt football. That's where you determine and see how different things are. And how they used to be in the continued to be sill more has an San Fernando both have strong neighborhood support. And I think that helps them overcome the disadvantage that they have as you said, I still think there's ways to go to those schools and become an elite athlete. There's dedicated coaches out there who may not get the publicity or don't have the support financially or otherwise. And so each parent has to make a decision what they want their son or daughter to get out of their situation. And the other way is there's private coaches that can help them over come what they may be lacking at a public school. I've learned that we're my someplace basketball, and he's good that elite. But that world of the private trainer were the nutrition might wait a minute. He's in fifth grade. I don't learn to hit a free throw. I before. Yeah. You need three jobs to pay for that too. I'm going on tangents what is seven on seven world. I've been told about what is everybody in. Football is trying to sell seven on seven all star games. They think that's the way to get a college skull. It's just passing the ball passing take. Yes. You take out the Lyman, and you have seven on seven football. But it's not the schools, right? No. No, no. It's all star teams and you play for among teams, and they're trying to straight these leaves. And I got gotta say is if your high school coaches participating that's a good thing. If not I don't see the point of it, the high schools are all have you working very hard. I really don't see the point of it other than supposedly get some exposure have somebody write your name up. And maybe if you have the physical measurements of the looking for maybe the really offer your scars of with based on not tackling or anything else. Yeah. Quite a business. The business side of sports is very interesting to me. I write parents can give you all kinds of stories. Just like you. It's been going on in soccer and softball for years club soccer world. All my goodness. Her right? So now. Trying to get into football. I really don't think it's going to get there because it's too complicated. But if it gets there were all in trouble are gonna do q and with your you just give me the first thing that comes up to you best baseball player you've seen as a high school kid that would be a Bret Saberhagen, but the two thousand we've been seeing several good ones. Jean Carlos stands. Probably the best athlete. I've ever seen Notre Dame high Joan Carlson what's up Rushmore Markazi Dame also a Russian new Collins here at the LA times basketball basketball. I got to see Stanley Johnson was a great player first-round pick at a modern day Gilbert arenas out of grant was tremendous. He's out of the city section. So like him a lot your city sexual. I did went to Sun Valley Pauley, Pauley Perrette. That's right. That's good in baseball won't point. I won't point value in baseball soccer who stands out soccer. Eric were NADA. I'd like him when he was at Wesley very did player, but you also cover horse racing. So how do you cover sport where they don't talk to you? Good point. I've been following raises the seventies. I I remember when Bill shoemaker's around always been fun. And then recently, I'm trying to learn how to be a horse owner part owner of owning my own to twenty five percent of two horses. And I'm hoping to write a book about my experiences, but I need a happy ending. So we need to win a steak something so you have to horses who thoroughbreds. That's right. One is brave heels a four year old he's based at Golden Gate, and we have a two year old Sarah crews going to be running for the first time this year so beyond the lookout for those two horse. How do you do they send your bills from a veterinarian? Yeah. I have a great co owner Jeff -sego he was in the tremendous. I trust them completely. So he kind of hands it. That's why it's been a lot easier. Just told me what is the worst case scenario if things don't go. Right said you'd lose ten thousand years last year. That's what island. Sorts of Tex runoff. That's what they tell me find out this year, but the horse ran wants player. He was he finished fourth and got disqualified place fissile, we made eight hundred dollars. He injured one of his legs. And he's fine now and ready to go. But yeah, I learned about patience. So they just send you bills. They just sit you bills every month. We'll meet you every month every month, you get a Bill so everything down. It's like seventy five dollars a day to take care of hor train them feed them. But then you get that bills. And then if you win you get you have to pay the jockey the trainer, I don't see how this is a good investment. I'm I'm learning. That's what I wanted to see what exactly is going out of these people make money. I think it's all about writing off things, but you have to try and make money one or twice because the IRS will get you. If you don't make money at least. My horses losing. I know I don't understand how these people can stay involved in unless they have endless money. I got into see if this could be my future enterprise and right now, it's touchy touchy buddy enjoyed the hor-. I tell you to meet these horses that are like family and after he lost. I wasn't that mad at him. Because I just I think he tries arts I go to the truck with my dad to Hollywood park and send Anita. So that's why I learned how to do fractions. Why reading the daily racing form? I didn't know I learned a new more about a furlong fillies mares. I did what was going on second grade. But I go to the track I feel I took my kids out sending nita's beautiful experience. I wanted to go in the circle one time right for me. It's it's about the fun part of having a horse to root for and stuff the money. Obviously, you know, you're not gonna make necessarily make money. There's no guarantees. So it's more about having some fun and seeing how it operates. And like I said, I'm learning a lot. I've had this horse since he was a two year old. He turned four this year. So it's going to be interesting to see how the next year goes about. This will be here for me to understand. We're at a special passes owner. Exactly, but you had to pay one hundred dollars. But it gets you into Santa Anita through everything. So you do that passed. So. Yeah, that's another co carry a fun part of give you a little path. Have you covered the Kentucky Derby, I have not. And that's something. I would love to do time for Angel Rodriguez. Senator we are taking the arrive early legally podcast to the Kentucky Derby, that's what we're gonna. There you go. Oh, Eric Sahn? Hammered of great job covering the California. Prep seen the horse race and seen just everything in general love talk with him back on the podcast very soon because I'm trying to figure out why was for all city Beck in nineteen Ninety-six. Maybe play help. That will help your social media. Eric is L Sondheim beer ever podcast. Thanks. Thank you. Eric von hammer, always bringing some good stories like a history book of prep forces southern California. Definitely come back to the podcast sometime soon just figure Huckabee I never meet into one of his stories back in the nineties. Because I wasn't good enough play better. As one of my friends who say Bill will he always writes better than most of us around here? He will be at the Super Bowl along with the rest of the LA times crew. It'll be stack bath four you arrive early legally podcast as always thanks again for everybody who's been listening reading reviewing sharing continue to do that tweet me Durant sports. Let me know what you like what you don't like this podcast is always produced by one engineer by my Kathleen Angel Rodriguez is the sport editor, I am your host deputy ran as always thanks for listening to the arrive early leave late podcast, but it's not just sports LA times really invested in the podcast world. 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Dodgers (McCullough), Lakers (Turner), NFL in LA (Farmer)
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for reaction to the first arrive early leave late podcast, the main Iraq do come out early duly late dodger fans Laker fans, I saw them. Both last week. He came out strong. Came out strong for personal brand game in LA and the reaction to the podcast. I would not I tunes. I read the reviews and can we start this over because now the bosses here? Let me be are you gonna get in front of Mike? I'm here you're gonna be here. Yeah. I was hearing you go on. So I was curious about where this segment was headed. Okay. So angels in another room right now. I didn't know he was there. Okay. So how did you like the first podcast? I thought it was really good. I could've used more. Lebron less me. Okay. But no, I mean, I think Dave wine who's our producer said if if that's the roughest one we do all all year, and we grow from there when we're in really good shape. And so I think we're onto something the first one was was great. I mean, it's not often that you get someone like LeBron talking to us. I thought plaschke's story on Kirk Gibson and all the different things. We're just great. And so I think that's a little window into where we're headed. I think it's a really great start. And I think it's something that we can definitely build on as we get going one of the things that I was told. Why my friend Patrick the mailman who said you took me inside the LA times. I think that's one of the things that we can do here on the podcast is take the listener to the stadium to the venues. That's really kind of the mission of what we're trying to do. Here is kind of open the window into what our reporters experienced on a day-to-day basis. And I think as we go, obviously, we want to be responsive to the news. That's happening. But I think the more that we can bring that to people the the better. But obviously I mean like now we're in the World Series. And so getting some reaction from out there. I think is important. The timeliness is always an issue. The more that we can take readers behind the scenes the better. Let's take them. All there. That's Angel Rodriguez. AG rod is his Twitter. The sports editor of LA times. Bet the drain your host of arrive early. Leila. You stick around. I'll be listening. How about that? I like to be surprised when I get you coming into the studio right because I feel nervous. Opening again arrive early leave late this podcast is for the fans as we take you not just around LA sports. We take you around the entire country the entire world because the LA times is there. They will have a writer a reporter of video crew. They got people everywhere when I say they they are the best arrive early leave late now is talking about the World Series. Andy McCulloch covers the dodger for the LA times is a great job for them. Andy, this is your third year with Dave Roberts, right? Yes. That's correct. So you to came to LA together, right? Yeah. We weren't a package deal with the timing did work out that way. Okay. And I'm pretty sure the payroll of the same. So we'll get that. Okay. Angel rodriguez. We'll take care of you on that when you're bonuses. And all that good stuff. What's it like covering a World Series? It's like the job is normally just kind of more people reading. I mean, I think there's a lot more people around. There's a lot more cluster inside the clubhouse. You know, you got to Wade through a lot of nonsense. So I guess to ask the questions you need to ask. Yeah. I mean, it's a challenge. But I think also, you know, you you have a benefit at this time of year because a lot of times the players will be sort of more welcoming towards familiar face than they might be on June fifteenth to that sort of thing. So I've been doing this for a while now and just kind of it's just it's it's part of the gig. I guess there's more pressure. There's more deadline pressure. But you got to enjoy it. I guess you know, because these are the most exciting games of the year. So I try and get into that. Because now the stars go to the podium, they go to the press conference room, the managers go there. So how do you as a writer was a guy get any kind of information? That's different from anybody else. Just grabbing guys one on one, you know? And and the, you know, the point of the endeavors, you try and build relationships with people. So that, you know, you're able to you know, I was able to save some time with Dave Roberts in his office after game seven, you know, is just me and him in there, and you know, in the past had that sort of thing Clayton Kershaw other different guys. And so I. I think you just you know, Justin Turner after two only at that walk out against the cubs. I was able to kind of wait him out on the field and get him one on one. It's really just a matter of if you spend the you're building relationships with people it can benefit you later in the season when they are a lot of times just coming off the podium and giving, you know more sort of anti septic answers there, but Ambi come on now girl series like eight hundred people there credentialed. Yeah. People like me the only show for game seven you. You got a box people. All right. You gotta throw them bows. Gotta move out of the way. Now. No, really most people don't don't really know what they're doing. So. Andy McCullough covering the dodgers third season has Dave Roberts changed from day. One that you met him not, particularly I mean, I think he's grown into the job and grown to sort of understand some of the pluses and minuses that come back with it. I think he's become a little more immune to criticism, obviously, you've spent any time on social media or talk radio or things like daddy's probably not the most popular manager in dodgers history. And he had to take a fair amount of that. And I think a fair amount of that has filtered into him filter down to him. I guess, and I think he's sort of learn how to deal with that how to handle it. But for the most part, I mean, he's pretty much about the same. You know, you interact with his players in the same way keeps his door open to the clubhouse. He tries to communicate with guys in the same way. And his players say the same sort of things about him in twenty eight team. They didn't twenty six sixteen you know. So I don't think it's changed in too much at all to be honest. The criticism why he's gone to the. Playoffs to World Series. I think a lot of baseball fans. Just don't like the way modern baseball is played. And that's a criticism that I can relate to because a lot of games really are worrying and a lot of things happen that are very different than the way. The sport was played even ten years ago. You know, just in terms of pitching changes in the lineup alterations. And a lot of that stuff is data driven. And and based on things that are believed to be truisms based on the numbers, and what I think, you know, for the casual fan or not even the casual but just for the fan who misses the way baseball used to be played the way the dodgers, do it is fairly fairly different. And so Dave Roberts represents the avatar. A lot of those changes. Whether it's pinch hitting for guys in the second inning or trying to prevent the starting pitchers from seeing the opposing batting order the third time through that's what. That's what about two thousand eighteen though. Yeah. And look like I get why fans might hate that. I wish that every playoff game was played like game seven and two thousand one World Series where Clemens and schilling both win seven or eight innings and pitched through one hundred thirty hundred forty pitches. But this is not the way the sport is anymore. You know for better for worse. I get why fans might just sort of be irritated with the way it's playing, but that's not really Dave Roberts responsibility. He's making decisions based on what he believes. And also what the front office believes will put the dodgers in the best position to win. And look it's kind of tough to argue at the results, you know. So why dodger fans mad at you? I see your Twitter, Andy, oh, I'm just really good at troll. Yeah. I mean like Dylan, and I do the job differently and a lot of different ways. But we have more similarities, I think than people give credit for we both really understand how to antagonize people on social media. Why are you trolling dodger fans? I mean. I just them. You know? You know, I feel like I'm pretty straight laced and measured in the paper. But you know, in social media tend to try to have more fun and a lot of times late at night. And I'm tired, you know, and I would like to have some sort of dopamine rush. And so that comes in the form of seeing my mentions explode I used to do that same way when I was there on Tuesday night against the Nazi. Oh, yeah. Then I realized what am I doing are you with these people why? But I love the way that you do it any McCullough cover the dodger for the L A times. I I like yours because you do it in a dead pan kind of way where people don't know that they're getting trolled, so good and mccalla. Definitely we talking to have more and more especially in the off season because baseball, it doesn't stop anymore it every single day because you got to get to that computer to figure out what your next lineup is right, Andy. Yes, exactly you need to get your fantasy team set your DFS all that what your Witter is at McCulloch times 'em, lower c- capital. Correct. U L L A Yuji h time. Oh, we know how to spell here at arrive early late. Andy. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you have fun talking to World Series coverage is just crazy. I went to game seven last year. I worked for what I work for for suspension TV station last year. It was just out there. It was just cool when a great vibes to be at. But there's nothing cooler for me then covering the Lakers in the NBA finals. I was there for two thousand nine two thousand ten actually eight when they lost to Boston nine in Orlando and ten when they beat Boston game seven. But a man who's been around the NBA for a while a man who only has initials when you go around the NBA, he's known to the readers Broderick Turner. He's known to everybody who's kind of cool with him is Brad Turner. But the ones in the know they know that there's only one BT in the NBA BT back to to great man that you could not join your MBA funneled experience with the Lakers when they. Told me, hey, who do you wanna talk to talk about Lakers in the NBA? Lebron shack Coahuila love Tanya down Weiqi. But they're too young. They weren't around for the two thousand run and just oh, that's all experience. Okay. Take it means you got energy stories all that all that reporter BT and about thirty. Yes. I got this. Jan look Yuma buttons going back. Okay. I'm by the buttons. But how thirty years man, I tell you when a funniest stories two years ago. The Lakers will wiccan out Lonzo ball at the facility. Magic's their source Lamar autumn. And he looked coherent the Mohan out talking. Magic walks biases. The mar-. I broke him in in the Margot's word. So yes ELO I used to work for a weekly newspaper. I got a couple of the Lakers. I didn't know what I was doing. Magic says you stood on the what you. A little bit more. So shocked the more the here that that I covered Magic Johnson as a twenty two year old kid working for weekly newspaper in Pasadena. I got to see them finally beat the Boston Celtics where you did Showtime. Yes. Schalke Koby and. Pau gasol. Yes. Guess this. My what thirty time around back. Wow. How about that? I was gonna ask you about LeBron James. But now, I gotta figure this because the bronze showing up to a huge deal. But if you were there when magic was running Showtime, you were there when shack showed up you there in Kobe showed up. Yes. Where does the LeBron showing up factor? I'm going to say it tops. It all really because this much more media. And as worldwide media just think the very first game he played at home against Houston on Saturday night craze. There was supplement two hundred and fifty media people there. No like NBA finals. I mean, that's crazy. Because NBA finals remember who's have MBA different Frank. But with okay, I remember him saying what time the NBA finals the credential around three hundred people they were two fifty for two Ronnie for the Brian James I home regular season game as Staples. It was maddening. It was crazy. It was fun. But it was just this idea that this is who he is who LeBron James has become we have probably the guy with the biggest image the biggest brand in sports with a franchise deaths. Had one of the biggest brands in sports coming together. Think about that. That's a lot of brand power. It's crazy. I went to the game on Tuesday night, and I will to buy my son who's thirteen he wanted LeBron jersey. There's none in the stores really SAP center there. You can have the huge adult sizes like Rex. But there's nothing there. But what you happy because you say. Money. Your jersey coup. For my daughter. I wanted to get her LeBron t shirt, right? It was hard to find just a t shirts. They said that the people were because they can't keep the LeBron stuff in stock right now. And I believe it I see it. But you on inside what's he'd like dealing with that? So you the first time a really got a glimpse of it was the day. He announced he was signing in July was at a cigar shop in south Pasadena with my friends smokers ago, watching baseball, and all of a sudden it comes up on the screen in ticker, the Brian James has agreed to a contract with the Lakers. The cigar shot went crazy. And that was damn I gotta go to work. That was the reaction. You got from these gentlemen that were in there smokiness ago watching dodgers on TV and they would just excited. So I put my cigar out. I drove home, and I went to work that was the beginning is only increase since that time they sold out preseason games. Think about that preseason games. If I recall correctly, I don't think Kobe shack did that. Of course, they want so much, and I think fast got a little jaded. And it began a thing as always going to happen. And I wonder if lak- fans was starving for that next star a while not knowing at the Kobe laugh if they would get this dog, Kevin Durant wouldn't talk to them. They couldn't get them as Audrey to sign hair. I mean, they went dow- straits. Then the biggest star there. I say in a universe. He is the biggest star in the US. That one of the biggest and the will decide to common play for the Lakers win Kobe game. He was leaving high school. So we didn't know much about him. He wasn't a game changer. Like LeBron is when shack signed as a free agent from Orlando. He was a game changer. Right. Mid-nineties Lakers all kind of in that area. When there was a call Jerry with was Geno manageable Lakers, and he signed him doing you Olympics in Atlanta and as pitcher of shack walking out of some restaurant someplace, and he's there with Jerry West in a jury is like a static. Now, if you know, Jerry, he doesn't. He's you know, he's got his issue the deal with it his deem it there. I say, but he was ecstatic. Never happy lake Nova happy Laker fans west how could you not be excited because you had someone who's becoming one of the biggest loss in the league. Because m j was still playing then. Yeah. Ause out there. But he was this guy who wanted. No. That was just wait player, but he had this incredible personality fine Levy, kind there was a bad Laker teams before that. Oh, man that Nick fan nex one-two-three Tancu. Kidding me? Joel. They campbell. Okay, coup shack star. But LeBron is a bigger deal. He is a big deal. Some of telling me that worked for the Lakers. If I remember correctly that he has more Instagram Fata wars than the top three NFL players combined. Choose I don't know what that is. Because oh Accu better. I don't have all that much. Instagram. I mean, so if you think about that these people around the world that interested in the Brian James, forty three point eight million followers for LeBron on Instagram. Are you serious forty three point eight million? That's like you bet. Do you gotta do you have a month? I mean, that's why g account. Yeah. That's with my burner account. Right. Right. We are having we do. That's crazy crazy to think about that. And when you are around a person light LeBron which been your dealings with him. You know is Ben put good? I mean, he did allow Tanya to have Saddam without good. That was very good job by her. And we're happy that that happened. But you just you feel this energy the very first game in Portland he sitting in his seat and all these doing just watching TV watching a basketball game. And that must've been fifteen cameras just taking pictures of him doing that. I've never seen that before can go away the high, and I don't think he wanted to go anywhere too hot. They wanted to see him put on his jersey. But he just sat there any wife TV, listen to his music, and they were people around him. I watched a people it was so entertaining to me when Luke walked and walked in. I say look look at that. I can't get used to this aid goes BT you. Get used to it. Because that's the way is going to be. And that's the way it has been and we'll continue to be. So what's your role this season covering the Lakers? That's a good question. Our bosses are listening. I know they are. I know they are. So we can travel I travel some okay? The big thing was I've been traveling doing NBA since like nineteen ninety six and last season with the clippers delays thirty days of the season this twenty three days on the road white me out more than ever had and they will on ROY every week. So I told angel that adjusts couldn't physically mentally spiritually do it anymore that if we can make them change is what we would have not I would apply for job at Starbucks become a barista. Yeah. And rob over at night left one of them complaining about no job is job. Wakeup call to get to the airport to land in the city where there's especially the second of back to back. It it. Three years. It took his toll to the point where I just knew that. I didn't wanna do it that way any more. So fortunately because we got this new great owner. Thank you. Sorry, doctor. We now have more employees more people covering league. So our spend most of my time covering the Lakers Tanya, I was supplement. Whatever she does. I would do mostly sidebars. I'll do some game stores when she's taking time off example coming up I'm going down to San Antonio, the see those Spurs again, the Washington place Saturday, and I do some traveling, but not a whole lot right now that could change because this team even though they're winless this do the team the sea without a doubt the ticket prices for these games. Raise the demand. It's crazy. How one person it's only in basketball, how one person can change the identity. I think about that kind of like you bet around I still walk. We get a podcast. Brad, turn to what your social media. It has be underscore toner Twitter. That's what you get the news from BT, the one and only Broderick Brad. Say that. Santa farmer the NFL columnist for the LA times feeling. I'm feeling great heading into the mid way point of the NFL season. Here you fly every weekend not every weekend late lab in covering the Rams till they lose their become irrelevant. So I'm home for those home games. They've been away the last three weeks. So it's nice that they'll have a home game this week Packers. Okay. So Gary client who covers the Rams for LA times. He's at every practice every game. Jeff Miller's at every charger practice every game there the beat writers. Yes. You are the NFL columnist. What does that exactly mean? Well, back up a little bit used to be an NFL beat writer. I covered the Oakland Raiders for the San Jose Mercury news from nineteen ninety five to two thousand when I came down to the LA times. Obviously there was no team in Los Angeles. And that created a really interesting dynamic because you've got the second largest media market and a market that the. NFL is intensely interested in and wants to maintain a presence in and use as a leverage point to get deals done in every other city. So since in the twenty years that the NFL was out of Los Angeles. Twenty seven teams got either brand new stadiums or stadiums that were at least four hundred million dollars renovation so long way of saying I covered the league in and I still do look at the whole league. Now, I now look at it through the lens of the Rams and the chargers, but I still will write stories around the league in one of the really cool things about the job. And it was a unique job and has been a unique job is the LA times. Open so many doors for you. So I've climbed mount rainier with Roger Goodell. I've watched games on a Sunday with John Madden. I've had a week with Pete Carroll. And where he gave me an office at the Seahawks. And I could see how things go there. Or traveled with an officiating crew any number of things over the years. This year matter of fact that the first game of the season I spent forty eight hours Troy Aikman going through his preparations for a FOX Sunday game. So it's really provided me with some once in a lifetime. Kind of experiences that I try to share with readers already know that you're gonna have to come back, and we're gonna do a special hour because I wrote out mount rainier John Madden. The officials pekair for a whole week. That's an entire. Show right there time with Sam farmer is coming up team get on it. We're gonna get ready ready to. Okay, I stay focused. That's what I get all excited. Sam. So in two thousand you said you come to LA to the NFL writer. There was no NFL in LA for me. I've told the story where then fell left me when I was in tenth grade. I figured that out. And before that when they're in junior high in the mid nineties bowl team sucked. So right. If you're twelve thirteen year old kid, you're not paying attention the teams that are terrible. So I really had. No, I had interested in the NFL. But we knew that they were leaving. So there wasn't really any fandom about me. My friends stayed raider fans off I know about job you go and widen team. They had how do you apply for a job says, he's you're gonna come to the NFL in a city that has the NFL that doesn't make sense? It was a very strange and unique job. It's a little bit. You make of it what you're gonna make. And it's a fascinating period for the NFL to be out of Los Angeles. Because that was the rise of Sunday tip. Ticket and the internet and fantasy football and all those things which leave the league kind of fracture. Because look if you're a Cleveland Browns fan say you could live in LA and follow the team as closely living in LA is if you lived in Ohio, so it became a sport that Los Angeles consumed from the couch and didn't think about having its own team. And so it's had to get back up to speed and and fantasy football also sort of fractures league because you're thinking about you got two running back in Denver, and you got a quarterback in Dallas. And you got a defense in Chicago. We all know about the third running back in Cincinnati exact fantasy things we didn't even think about before. And so that all works against the NFL returning to Los Angeles because getting a whole city galvanized behind team, especially in a city that has nine pro teams. And there's so many things to do in LA is very difficult and teams are. Finding that out. Now, you know, the Rams had their early struggles. Although they're getting momentum. Now, the chargers are going through it, and there's no not necessarily any end in sight in that regard. So I remember reading you in the two thousand and when I started working in this business at ESPN radio, and you read everything that's going on. And I was always the guy that would go on the radio station. Mille? Look I've heard the story before heard since the nineties about how every single team is going to move to LA they're gonna build a stadium. And then oh, let's build them. When you went in the city, we're we were upon I'm born and raised in LA. And I hated that. We were always that palm. We're gonna move to LA. But oh now our city funded in new version now, I remember this angel Rigas. The sports editor reminded me that there was a running joke between you and the other NFL media at the NFL meeting. Right. You got to ask the first question at the Super Bowl every year at at the same question, you know, couched differently. And I try to get unique ways to to ask it. But. Essentially wins elegant team ask the first question every time. Yeah. And and finally it was funny. Once we got the Rams, and then got the chargers, you know, it was really awkward, and and Roger Goodell how many years GSI question. Oh, I mean eighteen years I asked that question where became like a thing one year. I didn't ask it and the NFL like kind of freaked out. I had so many people in the league, including Commissioner condiments say we've been up on answer on LA. Well, you didn't ask a question. I said, well, I'm tired of getting the sailing BS answer. There's just no answer to the question. So so that final year when the Rams came in the chargers came I needed a capstone question, and this sort of charade of asking the question. So I asked Roger I said now that we've got the Rams now that we got the chargers when will Los Angeles stop getting football. Yeah. So they came around. It was definitely a running joke at the Super Bowl and has been for quite some time. But you're right. I mean LA was a sledgehammer that that that owners held over the heads of their cities. It was the other woman, and some were more subtle some owners are more subtle about it than others. I went back on accounted seventeen franchises that invoked Los Angeles as a possible landing place seven Dior than half the league so used over that period. And so some are more subtle than others like the colts before they got Lucas oil stadium. Jimmer say left his his plane with the colts horseshoe logo on it out at van Nuys airport for a month and Ziggy will the owner of the Vikings when they were thinking about moving along Angeles, or at least wanted to intimate that they were gonna move dos Angeles. How does Vikings planet LAX? So. People see that they drive by plane, and you can't help. But think boy if you wanted to do this in secret, why didn't you cover the tail section of that plane? It's been let's say an interesting time. Now, I could paper the walls of my house with the number of failed failed renderings of stadiums. All Orna raising Carson, the unofficial mayor. I. I'm to read the hacienda. Michael ovitz? Yes. Everything was coming to Carson. Yeah. Oh matter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tom Cruise Garth broke. All these guys are going to buy teams. So and so, and I realized that the NFL doesn't care if you're a star and you wanna buy team. Oh Joe Montana wants by team. Oh, Magic Johnson was by team. They don't care. They wanna know who's going to write the bigger check. And so it doesn't matter. So whenever I hear now that the Panthers come up and maybe p daddy wants to buy the Panthers. I'm like, well, how big a check any right? And that's it's a fascinating time right now for the NFL because I was in New York last week at the NFL owners meetings. They lifted the prohibition on cross ownership. So what does that mean? If I'm STAN Kroenke who doesn't fact own the Denver Nuggets and the Colorado Avalanche. I really under the old rules. I couldn't do that. I had to put that in a family trust because I could own the dodgers the kings the Lakers and the Rams, okay? All in one city all in one. Market. But what they don't wanna do is put one owner against another. So for STAN he couldn't own the Rams and be the controlling owner of the nuggets and the and the avalanche because as the controlling owner the nuggets and avalanche. He would be going head to head in Denver over the sports dollar with the Broncos owner, Pat Bowlen. So now they've lifted that prohibition. So you can get a guy like for instance, Steve Balmer could by the Seahawks. If the Seahawks were to change hands after the death of pile Steve Balmer could by the Seattle Seahawks and on the clippers at the same time to different NFL crunchies kids, run the nuggets. Yes. Okay. Exactly. But now with the new rules crock you can run the nuggets kraken can run the avalanche and his kids could conceivably run. The rams. So it's just it opens it up, but what that does and practically speaking is it. It opens the universe up of potential NF. L owners. Now, you say why did the NFL do this? Well, you know, some might say, well, it's a long outdated processes rule that sort of outlived its usefulness because the NFL should be able to stand on its own and not worry about NBA competition in a city or whatever. But I look at it. And I say the Carolina Panthers didn't get enough money. Didn't get enough bidders. David temporary just bought the team. They didn't have a lot of bidders. But there were NBA owners who wanted to buy the Panthers. So why don't we why the universe potential owners? So we get a bigger pool because to by now that these franchiser five billion dollars by the Cowboys are valued at five billion dollars, you need and the debt limits are such in the NFL really you've got to come up with the cash for thirty percent of that so five that's one point five billion dollars that you have on a five billion dollar franchise. So you need to create as big a pool cast his widen net as possible for NFL owners. Now, what does this mean, practically speaking has fans? Oh care about who owns what? And whatever, you know. I mean now you might care about it. If you sort of embrace the idea that ownership winning starts at the top. And if you've got a good owner it top to bottom really helps. But also, look and. Seattle situation. I mentioned what if St. bomber were to buy the the Seahawks. And then decide I wanna bring basketball back to Seattle. I'm gonna move the clippers up to Seattle. So it creates a lot of interesting scenarios that didn't exist before that is fascinating. You went to school at Occidental did major. I was an English major. So you there should be no math. When you're in English me. Now, you're the NFL's told there'd be no mad that this is why we get into this business because there is no math. Now, all you're doing is numbers your time. Billions in the craziness of it's insane. I mean, the back when I started they were talking about putting a hundred fifty million dollars the newest stadium now that doesn't build the concession stands. Bill the bathrooms. Stan Kroenke stadium's gonna cost north of three billion dollars and the first in Inglewood and the first phase of that stadium, which we can see looking at the window here at the times is is five billion in total. When you talk about NFL network and the sixty five hundred seat performance venue. That's going to be attached to the stadium. So five billion dollars for a stadium. Staggering. Okay. You cover the NFL sound farmer. I am the post game host for the chargers on an five seven radio. I go down to practice. I see that. I know they're not getting much attention. But that's a good squad. Also worked for the Rams the first year they're here and to see where they're at to where there are now that. Excellent squad. Ideally, could it possibly happen in a crazy world where you have to LA teams in the Super Bowl. It could absolutely happen. I mean, you look those teams you look at the chargers right now their role in. They have Philip rivers. Obviously injuries have been something. That's forever. You know this. This has been a snake bit franchise. But if they can keep guys healthy now, they get Joey Bosa back to think how good that defense could be when they get Bosa back Philip rivers great player. They've got you know, they got very good receivers as you know, and the FCC kind of wide open. I mean, yes, you have the patriots there lurking. But there aren't a lot of other AFC powerhouse teams. We've seen the chiefs get off to great starts and then fade. And so and they've got a young quarterback is essentially a rookie Patrick Mahomes. And then the Rams it's it's unbelievable. They seem they're almost running away with the NFC right now they have a game and a half lead on the NFC. Some key games coming up. They play the chiefs in Mexico City. The NFL could not be happier that they got that game for Mexico City often in Mexico City could be the the game of the year in the NFL right now little number crunching. Yesterday at the game. The Rams are there differential is plus one oh seven right now and the rest of the NFC west is minus one hundred twenty six so you think about that spectrum and the way they're scoring. They've only had one game out of the thirties. Then even look that great on offense. They had some issues. They missed miss him opportunities, and they scored thirty nine points their highest point total of the year. So defense they've come around offense. They're always going to be there and special teams. Now, they got Zir linebacker. So that's a that is a team that is definitely playing as they say complementary football. So I think it's entirely possible that if they approached the playoffs because they're they're almost certainly going to get a by right now just to get where they were last year at eleven and five they have to go four and five who thinks the Rams are gonna go four and five they play the Niners. Again, they play the they play the cardinals again. It's just not gonna happen barring injury. So I think there's a there's a very good chance. I wouldn't say it's a I would necessarily make right now, but I don't see entirely within the universe of possibilities. Sam farmer LA times. Farmers where you don't wanna follow him on Twitter. Does a great job every weekend all kinds of stories and definitely going to be a big guest on arrive early. Leave late podcast. The second episode is done. I can't believe the time flew or by great stories from farm. Fred Turner, and McCulloch we're gonna keep on Trinity's out, please fried share review of a nineteen. We're going to read all the comments we're gonna go when just every single episode of things that have different play player because we want to make sure that we're giving audience and the listening and the readers what they desire when it comes to arrive late, and the beauty of this is that we can evolve. Together. 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