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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 113: Will Manchester United Stay Afloat?

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 113: Will Manchester United Stay Afloat?

"Want to know the latest than soccer. Then listen to the golden state media concepts soccer podcast of M. L. S. is the world of the Premier Eardley. We've got you covered a latest update. The hottest matches news on the League's top players. It's the golden state media concepts soccer. PODCAST ask listen impose in another Friday on. BGS MC soccer podcast. Big Welcome in. Does that have been here before I'm your host Lucas more. And we've got a fun day of conversation won't be as fun as perhaps Monday as most you know today. Transfer deadline day around the world. The soccer unfortunately the realities of podcasting have made me want to change the topic for today to where we are not going to be discussing any potential transfer news or rumors. I think I got one topic in regarding the transfer deadline. But that's because things will be changing all throughout this day and you don't want to speculate on something and then three hours later it'd be true or false where we might be the middle of producing this podcast and it's the news is completely different so transfer deadline day. We'll go over all the big happenings on Monday from transfer deadline day. One thing though I did want touch on is Anthony Robinson. The defender from the United States. Men's national team. We do have the finale of his transfer. It's for deadline day. Really interesting stuff happening there. And we'll circle back around to continuing example of United States players being able to compete at the the highest levels of international soccer will preview Leicester City versus Chelsea this weekend Manchester United. They've got a big matches. Well because every match is this big when in your entire fan base is ready to Burn Trafford to the ground and Real Madrid and Barcelona absolutely huge weekend in Lalita. Real Madrid drid facing Athletico Madrid tomorrow morning and Barcelona with an interesting match right now for them. Every match is interesting. It doesn't matter. They're playing athletico or severe Real Madrid because they are apparently capable of being beaten by anybody with the way they're performing as a unit. The WAYKIKI said siennas managed in his first couple of games. Coming off a loss to Valencia. A last minute win against a third -Til Spanish side in the Copa Del Rey. So interesting time for Barcelona will preview an predict that match a little bit later in the show but transfer deadline day. It's one one of those. Just exciting fun. Beautiful Days of following club soccer. It's it's like nothing else in sports to where you have have five to six to seven to eight leagues participating in transfers in rumors. You have all different combinations. Permutations are mutations about. What can happen how it affects each League Standing Howard affects the future of these leagues? It's really one of the more exciting. Earning and thrilling ways to do a trade deadline in sports. And if you've ever played the fief of video game the clicking clock like like twenty four style it gets to you it makes it exciting and that's exactly what all these clubs are going through today. Just do we make a move do we. We do we have an opportunity to make a move. Should we make a move. Should we spend this money. Are we good enough to compete in. The champions are good enough to make a run at the final four spots table in all the import leagues throughout the world are in the midst of their runs to determine whether they get into European competition to determine whether they're going to be league champions outside of the Premier League so it's a really crucial day for everybody this year. Early rumors doesn't look like anything. Major is going to happen. But that's Oh I don't want to talk about it and say that it's not going to happen because literally as we speak a major major transfer deal a star could be getting done and we could have some serious change change in world soccer but it is an extremely fun day and it's unlike anything else in sports truly I mean the NBA trade deadline can be interesting. Major League. Baseball trade deadline can be interesting. But it's usually two or three to four teams that need to make a move are are going to affect the league standings if they make a move but in in club soccer. It's the permutations are unbelievable. And there's so many star players in so many guys Who could fit in better places really interesting time interesting time for one of our own United States? Men's national team back Antony Robinson younger guy reported to have agreed on terms to join. AC Milan's lots on Ebrahim of each in aside. That's really come into form. Recently in Syria Over a ten million dollar transfer paid out to Wigan athletic that was all rumors and it came to an end and he will not be heading to Waseem. Alani will be staying at Wigan Athletic. What happened find out on the other side of the break you're listening to the MC soccer podcast? The suicide love silence break the silence. Don't be afraid to ask questions talking about thoughts of suicide. Maybe a source relief to the person at risk. Listen to them let them talk and let them know you care are concerned. Suicide is preventable. Learn how to discuss your concerns recognize it talk about it act on it. Learn more at recognized Talk Act Dot. Org a message from the Virginia Department of Health. Are you looking to your college football. Beck's looking to get the latest news on your favorite schools team. The Mc College football podcast is your tickets to all things college football doing us as we talk college football from the National Championship. The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which this conference is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as these the big twelve the PAC twelve. ATC and everything in between download the GS. Yes in C- College football podcast on Itunes stitcher soundcloud Google play or anywhere you find podcast just type Diaz empty in the search bar you're welcome back in GS MC MC soccer podcasts. I'm your host Lucas more and it's a beautiful day actually haven't been outside yet so I can't say it's it's a beautiful day in Chicago. I'm guessing it's cold usually just have to look at the calendar. Not Weather Afford to figure out whether it's colder tonight in the Mid West. MLS is getting closer and closer. That's going to be really exciting. That'll really help Here in the United States that pre opening day baseball all sports zone after the Super Bowl ends your college football's over pro football's over the NBA heads towards an all star break. and honestly it's at the point of the season where it's hard to really lock into it and there's just this big gap and the MLS. The start of it fills it very nicely for for people that enjoy the MLS in the United States. And it'll be certainly exciting. We'll dive all into an MLS preview and all that fun stuff a little later on this podcast not in the show but you know a couple of weeks from now once we get a little bit closer beginning of March when the major league soccer season kicks off sticking working in the United States I mentioned Anti Robinson. The United States defender athletic good young talent apart a really strong group of young players that it plays for the United States. That I've mentioned on the show are going to continue to be more common in Milan. was looking to make a deal to bring him in. As only I think the tenth tenth fulltime American in Syria. Something the Italians never really liked to do. And they paid over ten million dollars for them to acquire Robinson from Wigan Athletic back and he had seventy two hours to get together report for the physical clear medical to be sent to Milan and that fell through so in uh not finished medical by Anthony Robinson will keep him at Wigan Athletic. I don't know if this is a purposeful move or what the motives behind this are from Robinson if there are motives at all perhaps it's a paperwork error. Perhaps it's it's a myriad of things is story just broke Couple of minutes before we started the show. So it's it's tough to really say off the top it's interesting though it it's Certainly a shame. Because you you'd like to see a player that's participating in the United States men's national team to make that move to be in a high class lead to a high class organization play with and learn from high class. That's players that are at AC Milan. Now I know there amid to your team so far this year in Syria. But they're always within the top five and I'm sure they'll get there by the end of the season. especially the way they've been playing since the acquisition of Zlatan Ibrahimovic but interesting stuff that Anthony Robinson will be unable to join a super lon in this transfer window. We'll see how that plays out for him in the summer. However it is another example of what I continue to tell you is happening? It's happening putting right now of the young American soccer balls to where so many young American players are starting to be transferred are starting it'd be bought are starting to be believed in so many young American soccer players are starting to figure this thing out and I think that the the time is here. We've been waiting for so long. At least those that are above thirty years old have been waiting for so long those that are soccer fans for soccer to catch on in the United States. Enough to where just the general athleticism of the country. The general belief in love of sport boards in the country creates soccer players without any sort of advance developmental system. And that's exactly what's starting to happen because you can turn on the TV at any time around the country kids can turn on the TV anytime and watch about any soccer match from any league in the world. I've got a buddy who's a queens park. Park Rangers Fan there in the championship and yet he can still find a way to watch their matches. Can connect with the team on twitter right can see highlights of all the goals scored. The Modern Age has inspired a generation of youth in America. To be more interested in soccer has taken over basketball. No as it taken over football. No but it's gotten popular enough that a kid that falls in love with the game we'll have more access to it or more access to it allows them to fall in love with the game. I mentioned scenes like we see in Portland in Seattle. Imagine if your seven year old in that crowd how you'd be inspired word to go play soccer when you're among fifty five thousand fans cheering at the top of their lungs. And there's a high quality product on the field. All these things we'll create soccer players create great athletes in the United States. That are worth ten million dollars that are worth like Christian Pulisic almost a half of one hundred million dollars. They're going to be players. That are worth it in the United States. Even if the United States men's national team and the United States program continues to step on its own toes continues to harm its own development. Even with all of that the United States is going join to have talent going to have a lot of a lot of it playing all across the world. And we've seen it time and time again and that's why the best five or six players on the roster right now the best five or six players are young and that will be the trend moving forward now with the goal being twenty twenty six. You need the young players that are there now to reach their peak and be effective players internationally at their twenty eight twenty nine year old season and hope that these youth the youth players continue to develop continue to play in bigger leagues. And then they'll be that depth. They'll be the young excitement. That's on a potential twenty twenty twenty six team and obviously the twenty twenty two team. It's I think exciting stuff to see players like Robinson involved in transfer rumors being want for ten plus million dollars. I think it's all positive stuff for the United States. Men's national team for soccer here in the United States and I think it's another example of the Games growth here in the United States although it has been bad headlines recently I think from a broader point of view if you take a step back. The United States is in a better position now in terms of talent raw talent than they've ever been in world soccer. We'll step aside on the other side of the break. There's a lot of big matches the previous weekend. Leicester City versus Chelsea the biggest premier league match the weekend plus. We'll talk about Manchester United and could only gunny sold scar. Dr Be out the door with loss all that and more on the other side of the break. You're listening to the G. M. C. Soccer podcast. Some secrets are meant to be kept. 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Follow us on facebook and twitter download on itunes soundcloud and Google clay breath MC soccer podcast. I'm your host Lucas more. You're welcome into the show we've got Leicester City versus Chelsea on the docket this weekend fund fund match two teams near the top of the Premier League and although it might be overshadowed by transfer deadline day it is one of those fun important matches that the Premier League continuously continuously tosses up time and time again. And that's why we love the Premier League so much because there are quality teams from places Ford about eight that create some really interesting match ups. On a day. When there's not necessarily top of the League teams competing Leicester City Right now in third Chelsea and forth? Then you have. Man United and Tottenham those teams have been jumbling but Leicester City at forty eight points. It should be a really interesting matchup against Chelsea. It's why we wanted to preview. It went for those who you on the East Coast. You'll have to wake up pretty early. That's a seven thirty. Am Kickoff on the East Coast for those you on the West Coast. Yes you probably going to have to stay up to watch it. At least most people sleep schedule. I Dunno years but Leicester City Chelsea this is the form. These teams are in right now. Lesser coming off a tough to one loss in the Caravelle Cup and then a win in the FA Cup. Their last three premier league matches one win two losses losses Burnley in Southampton so. It's been a rough stretch recently for Leicester City for Chelsea win against Hull City. That's in the FA Cup. They drew against Arsenal lost lost against Newcastle United. Back on January eighteenth but a win against Burnley on January eleventh is kind of rounding out Chelsea's form Um I think Chelsea is the better side here in terms of raw talent although Leicester City is ahead in the table in his hat a better season but Chelsea's Chelsea and I know they're coming off that transfer for band but I really liked the youth and their squad I like Chelsea in this one over Leicester City when you look at Leicester City's form and just they. You haven't had enough time as an elite merely team to build the type of youth and organizational depth that a Chelsea will naturally have even after a transfer ban so so Chelsea's real problem here is finding consistency right finding a way to bounce back after being disgraced on the international stage for kind of fudging the numbers hours in terms of transfers. And they have a little more of a I think backbone and that's why you're seeing them still at the top of the table even after that whole mess even after not being able to go out and sign elite level players. They're still finding away. The top of the table they have. They have a little more of an organizational backbone and organizational depth plus. They're in better form. But it should be a really fun match. It's a toss up match really. Leicester City could certainly find a way to straighten their form out. Figure this thing out and for them they just want to find a way back into the Champions League and if they can hang around the top three they're gonNA gain more money gained more recognition. I should gain more popularity. And if they can establish that consistency Leicester City in the premier league. They'll be able to really start. To round out that organizational death roundout roundout really young good players and be consistently within the top five of the Premier League and maybe even start winning them like they did in that miracle miracle season a few years ago. But this weekend I like Chelsea I like it to tighten up in terms of the teams following Liverpool and Manchester City. At the top the premier league table I don't think Leicester City is going to be in position. Catch Man City and I would just like to see the three four five six seven even with Wolverhampton. Tonight thirty four. I'd love to see that really tight race to get into the one of those Champions League spots down the end of the season. Because that's really our only hope for the premier league being exciting citing down the stretch if Leicester City comes out wins. Maybe that fourth spot becomes is interesting but you'd love Leicester City to fall back to the pack with with a Chelsea win this weekend if you're into exciting finishes obviously if you're Lester Fan. Probably don't want to tap but got Chelsea this weekend on the other side of the break. Nick we'll talk about Manchester United and what that match could mean for the future. Their manager role although they've been staunch in defending him the philosophy. This weekend happens. That story could change. We'll talk about that on the other side of the break. You're listening to the G. S. M. C. Soccer podcast. This is your ultimate stopper. Everything sports the Golden State Media Concept Sports PODCASTS. Should I stay say more from the NFL the NBA MMA all in here state media concepts sports. PODCAST ask listen the big welcome in. GMC SOCCER PODCASTS casts gives a follow at GMC underscore soccer like us on facebook. GMC soccer check out all the great podcast on the GS MC podcast odd cast network fun. Friday might not be a fun weekend though for Manchester United. If they don't find a way to grab a win in the Premier League. Well listen we've talked about Manchester United a lot on this show. There are big brand. That's fallen off their big brand. That I've told you to lower expectations for they are no longer the type of team that they once were. They are no longer this powerhouse. This heavy hitter this Champions League contender they could. It'd be in a single season. They could be now and again but it will take a long term radical change of the way they run their organisation to get back. Act being what they once were and then you'll need to find. A legendary manager. Likes her Alex Ferguson. To fill that role again. It's just a large gap to overcome. And they had that opportunity right when Sir Alex Ferguson left they were at the pinnacle enough talent enough money if they would have adjusted their structure. Lean lean into the theories that have gone Liverpool Manchester City so far and in stopped relying simply on their brand kit to get things done. It really really could have been interesting for Manchester United and it's so interesting. How Manchester United's fall in terms of relying on the old way of doing things? The old way of thinking. The old way of winning were just buying players relying on your brand using analytics using less structure. It's so interesting interesting that they're fall at the beginning of this. Decade and throughout the decade coincided with a lot of other big brands around the world having the same type of attitude falling. We saw the Los Angeles Lakers of the NBA. Have that type of fall. In the beginning of the two thousand ten the New York Yankees had an interesting fall right after Derek jeter at the beginning of the twentieth tents there's two frontline organizations that fell off the Dallas cowboys have not been able to get out of their own way for much of the same reasons that Manchester United has struggled to find success. Why is that? It's called technology. It's called growing of money in these. Sports has emphasized to billionaire owners to billionaires across the world that hey it's a valuable investment vestment on a sports team the more money put into it. We have all these technologies and all these systems and all these ways of doing business that are so efficient that if you utilize them you're gonna be able to take major leaps forward in terms of value of acquiring players saw an article this week. Liverpool Pool has the most value per dollar per transfer. So they aren't just simply throwing money around as Manchester United often does there's a purpose to everything they do. And we saw that in baseball we saw moneyball take a leap wants. Technology really got rolling there the beginning of the twentieth tens and it just started enrolling in favor of teams. That were doing it the right way. We saw the astros of the cubs in so many of these analytic based teams. That ran their front office properly. Start to have the major success while the Yankees of the beginning of the decade could not get out of their own way. And that's the same thing we've seen with Manchester United and now how they'll have a match at home in the Premier League against Wolverhampton. Right they come off of a three two aggregate defeat against Manchester Sister City. Yes they won one nil. But that's in the care about cup. I'm not sure how much you can put that on Manchester City sure you win an FA Cup match on a muddy field six-nil l.. Nobody cares the last time. You were the Premier League you get bounced to nothing by Burnley at home and now the next time you come back to Old Trafford only GonNa Solskjaer still the manager. You have lost more matches than you've won since he became the permanent manager and although the organization is saying the right things doing what I would do is stick by your guy that you believe in and then instead of firing him blaming blaming him. Change your structure. Change your way of doing business to be like Manchester City and Liverpool. Although I think they're so far behind that it would be a long-term room change but showing patients understand who you are now understanding that you have fallen behind and you need to make it up and make it up slowly changing your manager. Every three seconds probably probably is going to help but they can say all the right things and do all the right things but if there are fans leaving the stadium with fifteen twenty twenty minutes to go in the match as they did against Burnley tomorrow against Wolverhampton. It's going to be a real problem Manchester United because is these fans at Old Trafford there. Unlike anything we can experience here in the United States truly they will be vicious. They will be unforgiving forgiving. An unrelenting towards Ole Gunnar Solskjaer so this is a high pressure match this weekend for Manchester. United they've got a young team a team. That's really not ready team that was poorly constructed and put together. But if this team doesn't find a way to stay afloat in at least get a draw against Wolverhampton. I really think that they could pull the trigger and make a firing that they said they weren't going to make a week or two ago. It's just too much stuff. It's it's too much pressure. It's too many losses and it's not even that I would agree with the decision. It's just your fans are GonNa go absolutely crazy and you're not close enough enough structure wise to give this guy a finding opportunity. Now who do you bring in. What interim guy do you bring in? They'll probably be worse than the guy you have now. At least there's an excuse for the rest of the season and then you can make a strong financial commitment to a structure to a new manager. And you give him some time to get get it right like Liverpool did with your club follow that model Manchester United Follow that model. I think you should move on from Seoul score at the end of the year but honestly for the President Manchester United and I look out my beautiful stadium or the most historic stadiums the most vibrant and beautiful beautiful fan bases in the world. And I look out at the stadium in a Premier League match against a team. That's in the top eight and fans have cleared out with fifteen or twenty minutes to go in the match. Hey what am I supposed to do right. It becomes almost an easy decision for Manchester United United. Although I don't know if I make it I could understand why you would make that decision high pressure match for Manchester United Against Wolverhampton. I actually think they'll figure this thing. Wolverhampton was competitive against Liverpool. Last week gave it their all and I know man United's is in bad form but to me I just. I think the pressure is going to be at such a level that Manchester United will be focused enough to just be the better side. Although I'm really nervous about that pick I think probably to one maybe they start a little tight. Wolverhampton Hampton gets a goal and then they just understand that they have to win this one or they might not be able to walk around Manchester with their Chin held high. It might I became. It might be not glamorous but I think they'd find a way to get it done because there is still talent. There is still quality on this Manchester United Squad. But we'll see interesting stuff this weekend will only gonNA soul's scar make it through the weekend that's really one of the most interesting questions facing the premier league facing Basescu United and I think it's one of the more interesting stories of the twenty tens. The fall of these large brands in credit. To some of those large brands the Lakers and the Yankees N- keys for finding their way back but they're in leagues that are structured to help teams find their way back to help small-market teams find their way. Back Right. You get high draft picks you're able to get more prospects funnel to you. But the thing about European soccer thing about premier league play. It's not structured. Richard for you to come back if you if you're structure falls off you just have to keep throwing money at the problem and that might help in some years and you might get lucky but you'll consistently only fall behind so it's rough times for Manchester United Interesting match coming tomorrow. We'll talk about Real Madrid. They've got a real opportunity to get a win against Atletico Madrid. A big time match this weekend. Barcelona talk coming as well. That's next you're listening to the G. S. M. C.. You soccer podcast. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out the GSM see fantasy. Let's see football podcast. Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you that's vets. GSM SEE PODCAST DOT com back slash fantasy dash football dash podcasts. We'll cover traditionally dynasty PR. Even I DP leaks weeks when you need fantasy help. There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on. Twitter is MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Pat's IT s big welcome in back in. GMC soccer podcast. I'm your host. who gets more gives a follow on twitter at GMC underscores soccer facebook GS MC soccer like it? If a like you find this podcast Real Madrid. They have an advantage manage in Lega over Barcelona. We've talked about the reasons about this on this show. Barcelo fires that are manager then can't get out of its own way against Valencia. Kiki said tens on rough patch. You can't go and fire him after you fire the last guy because you're going to run out of bodies that can actually run this thing rumors that Barcelona players are running practices. Players are making the lion. Now you can deny those rumors all they want but they're bad rumors to have around your team in that puts rahm adrift in a really interesting position this weekend. Athletico Madrid who struggled this year currently in fifth behind severe and Guitar. riffing thank. We'll head in to the Bernabeu in face. Real Madrid. Who has won its last five matches while Athletico only one win in the last five that came over Barcelona earlier this month? They drew in the Premier Division. The LALITA ATHLETICO couldn't get a goal against right now. The nineteenth team in the league on the table so Athletico and not good straits right now three losses before or that including a penalty loss in the supercup in Saudi Arabia against Real Madrid and Real Madrid. To me is a team in for. This is a team that is absolutely rolling this is a team of Zenit Sadan at the forefront this match kickoff ten am eastern. On Saturday morning. This is a team that has tons of talent. They're organized they believe in their manager and they understand how big of an opportunity this is this weekend. A Win Against Athletico means you pick up wins against severe. Who's right now third and league? You pick up a win against Athletico's fifth fifth in league and your rival in Madrid so you would be at forty nine points. Maybe Barcelona wins but you still have a three point advantage against them. You have way more momentum van them your schedule will be software. Moving forward Dan Barcelona's and with the way Barcelona's going. They might not have this. This thing figured out yet if you can find a way to get three points if you're Real Madrid tomorrow in Barcelona slips up you're talking about a six point lead in Lalita and Real Madrid who. I sat on this show. Four weeks ago should be the favorite moving forward even though these teams were tied at forty points halfway through the season. Real Madrid will be very much in the driver's seat in Lalita. If those things happen this weekend it's a massive weekend in Spain. Hoodoo I think's GonNa win this match up. I think it's Real Madrid. I think they understand the importance there against a team. That hasn't been good as years. Passed passed a team. That's not informed in Athletico Madrid. A team who athletico honestly be more focused on their Champions League draw their round of sixteen in a couple of weeks then they are this match against Real Madrid in a league race that they don't think they can compete in their ten points behind Real Madrid and that's a tough tough thing to make up with about thirteen. Fourteen matches left so athletico might not even be fully focused on this one and if you drop one to Madrid athletic will be able to recover athletico finish in the top four. They're not really worried about that. And obviously common rival but I get Real Madrid at home too so this feels this feels like a Real Madrid win. This feels like a team that has a manager has a culture has a way of doing business. This is the type of game were teams that have all those things tend to take care of business and I expect I expect that from Real Madrid this weekend and it will put Barcelona on skates. If they find a way to lose. That would be rough Dow. It'd be awfully rough for Barcelona rougher. Their Fans Madrid has a real opportunity opportunity. Right now to make a run in Lalita. Let's take a look at the five thirty eight league standings in terms of how they you think this is GonNa play out. We look at the standings so far they think Real Madrid will win the league. They have them winning the league. Sixty four percent of their simulations with Barcelona celona winning thirty three percent. It's Vienna Madrid coming at one percent. And that's yeah. That's that's looking pretty pretty good in terms of statistics in terms of projections and those projections will widen very far if this weekend. Real Madrid were able to beat Athletico. Let it go. FIVETHIRTYEIGHT has Real Madrid fifty eight percent favorites against Athletico Madrid. Barcelona there eighty six percent favorites and they should win. Will they win though. We'll talk about that match on the other side of the break you're listening to the MC soccer podcast. Are you looking for the very best. NFL and college football podcast. Then check out. GMC FOOTBALL PODCAST get the latest football bold move both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's GSM see podcasts dot com slash football dash podcasts. GET UPDATES I'm college. Rivalries kindy insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it this. This show eats sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. GSM See podcasts. Dot Com for more info breath the final segment of the show the GS MC soccer. podcast follow on twitter and GMC underscore soccer like us on facebook. GMC soccer is things. How about the program are celona cleaned up a little bit in the middle of the week? Five nothing win in the Copa Del Rey. After the embarrassing performance formation's about a week and a half ago and the loss against Valencia. This past weekend so maybe you feel a little bit better. If you're Kiki set tean and Barcelona but I still think it's on the Fritz at Barcelona and that's why I think it's going to be an interesting match this weekend against Levante which right now. Thirteenth eighth-place Inland Lita. This is a match that at any other time in most other situations in most years. I'd pick Barcelona every single time. I mean this one's easy. They are more talented at every position. They have a much better culture. They are at home against the team. That's in bad form and at the bottom half of the table three straight losses right now for Levante a two nil loss three one loss one zero loss and none of the opponents are impressive in those three matches in right now. It's still hard for me to come out and say that Barcelona is certainly GonNa win this match. Because of how chaotic. They've looked if five nothing. Nothing win against a team. That's at the bottom of the league table and the Copa Del Rey. Where you wake up you realize you can't have that same type of performance like you did against a beat And he wake up a bit and you're better but I'm still nervous about a team in thirteenth. You're at home. You'll feel a little bit of pressure in the the key to this match which is going to be the first twenty minutes if Barcelona boots rough looks like they're not playing together again looks like they really don't have a plan or aren't listening to the managers integer plan which that's what it looked like against Valencia. It looked like a one team was a managed team with a formation a plan of attack and another team that was just eleven talented dudes that got together on eleven o'clock at a Sunday and started playing together at eleven thirty. That's what Barcelona look like against Valencia. So the first twenty minutes is crucial because listen we all say that playing it home. It's an advantage and it certainly should be but there are certain certain situations were playing at home can become a disadvantage. When there's a lot of pressure like for example? A team that has consistently recently failed at home that has an aggressive fan base Cincinnati. It's more difficult to play at home in the playoffs in Cincinnati. Why because because that's city hasn't won a playoff game at home since nineteen ninety-five so as soon as things go wrong? They're going to get nervous. And there's going to be pressure and the entire team. We'll feel that nerve. Feel that pressure and that's exactly what could happen to Barcelona you come out against the thirteenth place team in the League and this match is at two. UPS So we'll know the result of Real Madrid Athletico Madrid and if Real Madrid has one earlier that day in the first twenty five minutes of this match it appears. Barcelona is again not organized. There aren't able to attack a team. That's clearly going to park. The bus clearly gonNA sit back. That whole field advantage advantage turns to a home field disadvantage about twenty twenty five minutes in the whole crowd's going to be looking around like what are we doing. Why did we fire that manager? We've looked awful. We're really GONNA fall six points behind of Real Madrid or even if we get a win will be five points behind if we if we find a way to draw raw this one and all of a sudden it turns into a homefield disadvantage it becomes really difficult moving forward as a player especially in a sport where you are awfully close to the fans and it's a sport finesse. There's a lot of touch to it right. In the sport of football you can kind of just start. Start running through people but when you're soccer player you need that I touch to be crisp. And it's an awfully hard thing to do. It's a lot less muscle memory in terms terms of you have to be moving a lot of times. There's a lot of things going on. You need your focus and you can't feel that type of pressure because you're touches will be heavier. You won't be as crisp. You won't be as clean. And that's why the first twenty five minutes I think will determine whether Barcelona finds a way to lose this game if they don't score the first twenty five. I think it's a draw or a Barcelona loss if they score the first twenty five Barcelona could win this one through four nil because then the pressures taken off in Levante will start a press trying to draw and then it just gets rough because Barcelona has talent more talent all across the board but this is the problem. MM with firing managers. This is the problem with putting pressure on your own organization by making a change like that because when you make a decision when you say it's not working even though you're tied at the top of the league table and in the round of sixteen of the Champions League when every outside perception look at it and say well it's it's maybe not working the way. Barcelona should work. But it's working and you bring in a guy and you say this is GonNa manage us the way we manage at the beginning of the decade when we were by far and away the best soccer club job in the world we were. What Liverpool is now winning Champions Leagues Winning our League and defining a style of play for a couple of years where everybody's going to follow that style of play the Ticky Toc right and you go from that? You say you're going to bring that in then you're going to bring that back replace. What was kind of working? Not all the way working but kind of working you just put a lot of pressure on the new guy because if he makes it worse well what were you doing. Maybe you just weren't good enough. Maybe you weren't ready to dominate like Liverpool is. Maybe you should've believed in the last guy. That's why you don't want to put pressure on yourself by making changes like that that Arash and I. It's so interesting in soccer because these teams will just keep throwing around money and they will be competitive at the top and they will find a way to win another Champions League and more league titles but I really think the way to get to dominance in world world. Soccer is DAB consistent. Plan be able to spend money spend it smart efficiently and tie that all together into a cohesive. He's game plan and a team that believes in itself believes in what it's doing believes in what its managers doing is proud to play for that club. You combine all those things. That's how how you get a winning product. That's how you get a product like Liverpool where you're winning Champions League's you're winning your League Cup winning titles and you can go back. Every team just has a consistent manager. It's tough to find years where it was inconsistent in little rough and rocky and we can have the chicken or the argument in terms of well they were bad. Were never going to win. So they made a change and then they didn't win it but I think if you stick through rough patches you build cultures that's on a winning all sports in an all businesses and I I have a belief in that and I hope Oh. Barcelona finds its way again finds its way back into having a good culture a good system in a good team that make Lalita lot more interesting thing but it could be decided this weekend Madrid finds a way to bring it home. That's going to do it for show. It was a fun one. Lot of fun. uh-huh previewed a lot of matches dove and a lot of good topics. And we'll see what happens. This weekend it will recap on Monday. Really excited that you're able able to listen to this show please rate review and subscribe this podcast as it is presented by the GMC podcast network. That helps US helps the entire network work. Please check out all the other. Great shows from the talented hosts across the G. S. M. C. podcast network so much great stuff stuff stuff. 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USWNT Legends Talk Lawsuit & World Cup

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USWNT Legends Talk Lawsuit & World Cup

"From New York City and the launch of the international champion scuffling with K. Markup. Sebastian saw that sob on Wednesday. We had the announcement of the men schedule and just a few minutes. We're going to have the announcement of the women's schedule. And I already kind of know it, so I guess. So I guess it out it's been positive. Well, let's go Madrid. Manchester City Olympic Leon and the North Carolina, courage. We'll be playing in this year's edition. There's some talk. There may be going to take it to eight eight teams next year. So it's an it's a tournament that's growing on a year to year. And I think you know, as you look at the IC, Kate they could have thrown any teams any men's teams in a bigger stadium and made more money. I think it's worth acknowledging the fact that they have a started this tournament, which I think is needed in the women's game. And then be more now furthering. So I I think I deserve some credit on that front. I think the key thing is that all the games scheduled and w sell the league or US soccer, and let has done as taken away from one distributor of all the games in one out of the games as creating this opportunity for have a different platform for teams that compete and on the women's side in order to have Olympic Leone to come here. One of the best sides in the entire worry timed. Any Champions League winners? And you're the best roster in the world on a club team by far you're going to see a different type of style of play. And I think that's what's need in the United States United states, very athletic, very transitional type of clubs system, very much counterattack counterattack counter pressing all that it's very different. They hold the ball, especially the European side that keep is action. And I think it'll help. Raise the level by exposure of the tactical the technical aspects of the game also worth pointing out people to run or national Champions Cup, relevant sports our business. They're not a charitable organization. They're doing this because they see an economic value in it, which I think will be able to bring up a little bit later in the show's. We talk about equal pay in the fight right now going on between the women's national team in the federation a lot of what you hear. Sometimes we'll women don't generate revenue here you have a business entity. Same women do generate revenue, and I think that's really important in the conversations that we're going to have both on this show coming forward and maybe for the next couple years around women's soccer. That's something. I've always heard I've always heard in ninety nine. My dad worked at Chevrolet, and I'm like dead. Why don't you sponsor more of us? He's like Kate. It's not Arwa airlines. Not great return on investment. Right. And I was always like, but it's the right thing to do. And if you do it, then it'll happen, but the systematic discrimination that has always been there is a reason why women have been profitable. They're giving icy. See relevant sports group does see if I gain in it. And they're finally building the platform and giving it time to show that it is a profitable opportunity. We're celebrating the ICT launched. We're also celebrating twenty years since you and some of your close friends eighty I to say change the landscape of Hamilton women's athletics. And maybe the world the way all of us look at women's sports. I know you've had a chance to get with your teammates. You guys have been around for the last maybe like twenty four hours you got to play last night. And how our the knees, okay? Okay. Pants a wide legged pants to handle the swelling and money. It looked like a super cool event. I think we'll talk about a little bit more with your teammates. Wow. Really truly like the forefathers and four mothers of American soccer. We're on that court together that must have been need interesting as our team's never interacted because they US soccer and how they would schedule games they wanted to tribute the teams across the country. So the men would be in usually the bigger markets, and then we would get the secondary markets. So the actual times we spent together on dates was no. So that was one of the first instance that there is a critical mass of a men's and women's side together at the same time and not only that competing. So it was a blast last night. I'm happy I can still walk. I was very concerned. I was going to blow my ACL which I'd never done before and that pickup game, but we're walking day slowly, but walk in a couple of your teammates. Join us a little bit later in the show. But let's talk national team now because you're not having a chance to get together in a few months since last time, we did a progress. Maybe last year was we're a little bit inconsistent. We will work on that moving forward. Obviously. It's it's a massive year. There's some you know, I was kind of going over things last night there for me like five or six really big questions about the national team as we approached the World Cup. So if you don't mind, I'll just kind of ask them, we'll we'll see where we go. The first involves a former teammate of yours Carli, Lloyd. I think it's such an important. I don't wanna say drama because that that might have again, it's a such an important storyline. What is her role gonna be with this team? Do you think Jill Ellis already has that answer? Just we don't know it yet. Or do you think she's still trying to figure it out herself? I think there's already a decision on the role that Carli Lloyd will play. But I think that decision can change depending on the outcome and the results. So in the last two games that we saw the United States play against Japan in England, for example, the midfield really really struggled. And so if you know that's happening, and you can't fix it with the current personnel. That's getting the starting nods. You're going to mix it up a little bit very similar to the behavior that Jill Ellis demonstrated in the last World Cup Carli Lloyd was benched. People got some yellow cards all of a sudden she comes back in and there's not a player that thrives on being doubted more than Carli, Lloyd. So we should do this whole podcast my car, those not gonna play Carlos not gonna play Carlos not gonna play not gonna have a big role. And then she'll drop a hat trick in the final basic. Well, yeah, I don't think the goalkeeper we'll have as big as a nightmare Japanese goalkeeper dead. But yeah, no, I think Karl Lloyd thrives in that setting. So if anyone's going to be in that role, she is the one that's going to thrive. It's not going to impact how she plays her how she approaches the game. She's a different type of leader. You mentioned Abby Wambach Abby Wambach was the Voelkel like come on guys on the sideline at all times when she had kind of been Wella gated to a lesser role. Cuddle? It's not that type of player, but she is a type player that will show up, and you know, what you're going to get and day out. I wonder since you mentioned Abby Wambach what are the chances that we see a similar World Cup for Loyd. As we saw two Wambach and fifteen get some starts minutes and group phase against lesser competition games, you kind of soon the US will win and then as the competition steps up the role diminishes do. You think there's any chance we see that in France. I think you'll be able to tell that based on the starting lineup. The last game the sendoff game before they leave. And if she's not on our air twenty-six at red bull arena is not starting. Then you know, that she probably will not start unless something starts happening. Okay. But also, it's a long-term men. So imagine there it'll be at least one game that she'll get the starting on another thing that for me is I think maybe very interesting without this team is I don't necessarily see I mean, I know they're marketing stars. But I don't know that it's very easy to pick out like the talisman of the group the most obvious important player. So I came up with a list, but I wonder who you think is the most important. Player for this team to get the success. Which really I mean when we talk about the national team, it's win or or failure. I feel like so to win this World Cup. Who's the player that you say got to have a great tournament. Gotta be there. Every day must have I'll give to give air. Okay. Has got passed on my liberty. Great tournament. And I think Lindsay Horon we saw what happened last camp when she was out. She picked up a knock she wasn't in training. And that Mayfield couldn't control the game offense or defensively. And this is a team that was dominating all twenty eighteen and the big reason why was US the year. Lizzy ran the end up yourself player Lindsay rent because she could dominate both sides of all more of a, you know, the eight box to box the question is she going to be able to keep doing that going into this World Cup? Right. That was my biggest question of Joel Ellis in two thousand eighteen is you guys are playing the best. I've ever seen the US women's team play ever. How is going gonna keep going six months? She's like, oh, we're just gonna do a little round your peak early. Is that a thing with can absolutely picked to? But the question is now with all these injuries, right? Which would isn't maybe a bad thing. Because right now, everyone's got a little bit of doubt. Everyone's a little bit nervous after last showing. Now, they're gonna refocus a little bit more. You'll get those players healthy that probably needed a little bit of break. Sometimes freak injuries happen. But sometimes it's overuse, they get a little bit arrest, and then you can kind of go from a different level again get back to the ups. So a listener was a first name that I wrote down it's could like seven every once in a while. You know, you don't know soccer. Hanging out with the guys that he has been of C because they definitely think soccer sprain early early. I've heard that come out of Burley's not the time or do anyway near to me it super obvious, right? The goalie can't have a bad tournament or you're out. So it's an easy pick. But I think the point that I wanna make his I wonder if people truly appreciate what I think. And maybe you disagree. The massive massive advantage to the United States has had basically forever in the goalkeeping department. Let me was hope solo and it was beyond a scurry. And if you look at those two players they were for me head and shoulders above like every other women's goalie in the world at that time. So as good as a listener is and she may be the best goalie in the world. She's not there's not a gap between her and everybody else. You don't know. That yet though I mean come on you've seen enough of a listener. I mean, I I'm not I'm not trying to be destroyed what she's not hope solo. A World Cup and Olympics level brings out a different type of performance. Right. There are some people that are absolute gamers in big pressure moments. And all of those people that are consistently starters through a decade. Right. So let's give her her first major tournament totally before we make that assessment. But as of now, we have not seen her these. So unbelievably better that that gap is huge like we saw in the past. And I think that's not what I don't take anything certainly from your title or the title in two thousand fifteen but I think having a great goalie is just it's such a it's such a difference maker when you talk about the women's game. And and the US had just such an advantage. I think I'll listener could have a good tournament by her standards and most other people's standards, and it won't probably be some of the performances that we've seen, you know, especially, you know, scurry and solo just you know, you think of of literally stealing games stick it. When you game they could win you games in the big moments. They'd have that one big save. Where you're like how in the world. Do they do that Bri the World Cup? Final penalty kick hope solo in the Olympics and twenty twelve point like safe against Japan that I have never seen a male or female. Unbelievable. I mean, just freak athletes that had we're total gamers, so it is her time now listener to become the number one. And if she does not demonstrate that she is the best they need to move forward. Because there is someone that has that type of that list right underneath her. That's Adriana Franck. Jane campbell. Especially gets a lot of like why isn't she getting more one run? What? Hey, I think that the NWF fan base supports her a lot. They see what she can do it league level. And like you say the like, the explosiveness is something that's like a high light thing. People love to see the highlight. And they said well, I want that person in goal every game. Really? When a goal you're looking at a little bit, more consistency. I would think kind of the high end of their performances, right? And you ask the looking at their distribution, right? Right. Big for jail Alice gone, thank God soccer's about so much from twenty years ago that you now you need a goalie that can set play that can bypass the centrebacks or at the centre midfield comes and drops in can bypass that and hit pinpoint pass to repeal or heath or Alex Morgan in over the top of the back line is cheating. Then God that that is now a requirement. That's something that listen. There can do Adrian the French needs to do more consistently. We're looking to tiebreakers, right. I mean, that's what Jill is trying to make decisions. There's a couple other names. I want to throw at you. And this is another obvious one Alex Morgan look if she has a good finishing day or a good finishing tournament. They I think the US women will win. I don't know that that's a given like Alex can score goals in bunches, and then can maybe have some droughts. So I'm very curious to see what performance the US gets out of Alex Maury because if she has a poor finishing tournament. I think the US could be in some trouble when they get to those later stages and the margin for error, really shrinks, and they all comes down to service, right? So. Service in the box in the ever. She's become a very good header at sitting on the back shoulder of defenders and popping it at the right moment. Her timing is real close. Right inner runs whether it's service in the box or whether it's on the ground. It's also whether or not defenses are going to drop back if they drop off you've cut down where she likes to run Sweden. We were struggle against that. But so did everybody else. So it just depends on who fees or service what kind of service if she's back to goal the entire time. It's gonna be a long term belts mortgage. That's an area game was she's improved so much, but that's still has probably out of all her talents. I wouldn't rank that as high as I would her on the sprint or hurt running into space the other position, I don't even know that this is name that I think is important but position is who we Becky Sal, runs partner and center. Now, I don't have it in. I think it's for me. It's it's either doll Kemper Abdal Kemper or tearing the Davidson Davidson, you know, we've been around the coaching staff, we know how quickly they brought her in made are part of it. How impressed they were with her and her very first moments with the national team del Kemper, certainly has quality and she's paired with Sauerbrun, I think a little bit more. So maybe there's a little bit more chemistry there. I'll say this in a pains me that say this because I think the world Becky Sauerbrun, but that game in Sweden that ball splits the centrebacks at that's the moment. And so I think I think I think becky's clearly there, but maybe talking about the speed you're talking about you just saying her partner's going to matter maybe more than it ever has before if they hold a higher life. Yes. If they hold a higher line as you get older, right? Duly lose your speed come from selling that plate in that role. This right. This right. You gain compensate with anticipation, but this is the difference is that Becky can build out of the back. I think you need to pair her with someone that's a little bit quicker. So that's tearing Davidson's a little bit bathroom Mbeki, and Abby is the fastest who's better distributing out of the back. Judging from the last two games, I would say definitely Abby. When before I would have said in David. You gain. Here and ahead horrible February. And so I think that hopefully is not going to be I would turn Becky so I hope that that one tournament. She doesn't get her confidence wrecked. Because I think they're going to need her with. I really would love to see is to see crystal done on the right hand side. Terry Davidson is inverted fullback on the left hand side. Dull Kemper Sauerbrun she play a little bit. And then have done provide the with on the right one penal provide the width on the left with Davidson coming in and give cover. So you just mentioned the other name that popped onto into my head. And that's crystal done. I will preface you know, I was in Washington the year that she had her fifties. I remember being at the Olympics in Rio. And I thought she was going to be the breakout player that tournament. It didn't happen. I've been kinda waiting and waiting and waiting. I think you look at her age the moment of her career the experiences that she's now gone out and gotten playing in Europe. I think this is the tournament where she should explode. The one thing that makes me kinda doubt. That is. I don't know what position she's gonna place. It's kind of hard to what role that position is going to be asked to do from half to half game to game. But I do see her and I see all these playmakers on the US team enough sick. Anyway, anything away from the heats in the pews and all those of the world. I just think crystal Dunn's different. And I think if she if she has she can she can take over game with for athletics system, and her dynamism really in the final third if she's allowed to I just don't know that that will happen in this World Cup. I think it's really really crowded at that ten spot. I think it's really crowded at the eight and all the other spots. Do you have rose Lavelle? Who is honestly the best maker bell USS? Oh, it's nasty. But I actually would like her a little bit more central. I actually don't want her out wide. I think Pino can take over that space a little bit more. I want her coming back for the ball a little bit more. But then also Oxmoor and can't be by yourself, but you're strike appoint about crystal done is we know about her versatility. So she'll play for the Carolina courage, chilly playing in the position that you're talking about in that ten she'll tear it up in between the half spaces right in the in the half spaces and the gaps then she goes to the national team. And as an outside back on the national team. You have to be controlled with tons of space in making decisions over ten seconds to Senate making decisions in two seconds. That is actually very hard. If you're not a natural playmaker. From the sense of. I'm going to set everyone else up instead of being the one making the place that makes sense everyone's waiting for you to pass it because they're going to snipe it. I think it's the hardest position being outside back now in today's game show modern you're so part of it's such a both. Way position. Which in turn explains. Why crystal would be perfect for right? My question with priscilla's this. And I always think like versatility helps you make the team it hurts you from being a star because like you get moved around. So I'm gonna make a comparison with because you can tell me that's a worst hot take of all time or you can tell me. Yeah. Who crystal done reminds me of? Hill we shall acres, and here's why I think there's only two players not I understand. There's a million reasons why they don't remind you of each other. Okay. But here's why name name me players who could play that many different positions and dominate at this elite level. Michelle Akers was was the unstoppable forward force. And then eight years later was was a central midfield bulldog general at the elite level how many players can do that crystal done is pretty much proven. Maybe not they World Cup champion level. But as is able to move around this US women's national team in a way that no other player versatility. I think in terms of the product that's yet to be seen totally because she had she didn't make the two thousand five hundred twenty fifteen twenty sixteen she's use as a sub- sparingly and in and out right of how much time she was going to get. So let's see how she does now because Michelle Akers was impactful in any position the one player that I see that really has that potential on a more consistent level is Mallory pew if you put her on the wings. The problem is because she will do that defensive work from is you're not take Megan Regino, and you're definitely not taken up Tobin heath, but that's Pugh deserves to be on the wings not on the inside or top. So there's a couple of other interesting names that have come into the group recent Gregor. Yes, Halley bigger I, but there's two names specifically, I think like NWEA fans who will really be intrigued by fans who have watched the Fano its players worn in the national team. Right. And that's their teammates on the North Carolina. Kirch we're in the just McDonald and McCall's or bony. Do you think won both or neither end up making the team for France? Bony makes it okay? Because a year ago. Like, nobody would believe like we thought, oh, you know, when she got that one cabin Carey that it was like a gift to her ward. And now, you're telling me she's going to be I think because Morgan Brian is on the downslide head Morgan, Brian comeback and Ben dominant. Like we saw in two thousand fifteen right and hampered by injuries. Coming back just isn't at the level that she needs to be at yet that could change. But if Morgan Brian isn't ready to go, then I think that improves McCall's or bonus chances. The only thing that is concerning McCall is you bring in Ellie Krieger granted different position. But if you're bringing in somebody to fill that veteran calming presence, the glue the one that can handle the big pressure moments. Alexander can do that. All right. So, but you can't have too many of those players can you can you can you know, happens as next year that we saw on the Olympics are on the twenty fifteen World Cup two thousand sixteen cycle. The roster goes down to eighteen and all of a sudden. You don't have another and then all the older players retire because they know that they're basically can't do another cycle. And then you're left with a team that's half injured and not enough experience. So there was a couple of other names that have resurfaced those names to me are new to the national team picture. The now there's some that have resurface. You mentioned Ellie Krieger often Allie long of those two players who do you think has better chance of ending up in France. Krieger really because Kelli O'Hara is been struggling on and off with injury, right? Casey short has not seen a minute right and outside his problem in this country women men youth like when we do why don't we have thought back? I was thinking about that the other night. This is what I think about children playing outside backs outside back when we played this game last night. Right. The street ballgame and I have a friend's kids names. Nico calm and the kids baller like he he can move like you can see how people move at. They're gonna be good at soccer, right? Like that kid can move. And he's like, oh, my coaches playing outside back, and I'm like, you're playing best musician that could possibly. Happen. And he's upset about it. So it was like reframing dry. It's actually the best position. I had tell his dad that his dad. No soccer. Really? Well, and he's like, I'm like, I'm going to send you some articles Philip lamb. I'm going to save you some articles about man city, and how that is the inverted full that is the most important role in the game right now the national team the men's national team Tyler Tyler Adams. But the reason they're playing him at right back. It's because they value that position. So yeah, exactly. Totally a, but for whatever reason, you know, that position is in our problem for the women, and I'm really really surprised Cialis. Krieger back up I thought that the relationship between her and the coaching staff. She just seemed to be on the outside looking in since the Olympics. And it felt berry out of the blue to me. So you say Krieger more likely to make it. But I just curious what do you make all these? So yeah, what is why right long Krieger McDonalds. Mcdonalds aronie I. Why I to me? It was just so weird. I get it. Can you hear off and on injury? Casey short injured. Last year has been regain our footing at Davidson injured after a nasty tackle hurt. Her ankle in the fall struggled in February. Right. So this is one of those moments. Like, oh my gosh. I'm looking at my back line. I need somebody complete knows how to outside back and so good place. Centreback she'd that we're still early. There's no better player in the league. Over Alec beaker. There's mess eleven she's a glue player in the sense of she doesn't have a controversial personality in the locker room. She's not so in that's going to draw your attention away from the main task, in fact, she's gonna make it more fun, and I got to play with Alli here and they're a little bit. 'cause she was coming in as I was going out. But she's always just that person that takes under the wing and helps to me it's a little bit of sign, and I'm going to use this word know, people make more of a panic almost like when you say all these six solution. Debbie's we talk about this national team has to win the World Cup. And and and you look at the and the bookmakers have it there and everything, but when the coaches as you're saying scrambling to bring in pieces that seemed to have been put to the side this close to the tournament. It's okay. It's reasonable for me to have to be like, wait what we're doubts about that. Right. They were coming. I see where you're coming from. But I don't think a team has been that successful the year fired or World Cup. In the history of US women's soccer, where they're so amazing that all of a sudden, it's like, wait. How do we maintain this c- need to change things up to do that injuries? You can't you can't account for that. Right. But that also speaks to the quality of a former professional at the international level not getting called in and keeping a super high level, right? 'cause but you also wonder what's going on the league that we're not developing anyone else of younger to do that Matthias got a couple of Collins Hinkle's on the left hand side for various reasons, she's not getting invited back in and who wants his really there. That's not international outside back that stood out real. I can't really name anybody yourself you mentioned Henkel. So let's address it. I mean, silly Welby. No, I think it's you know, she's made she's made comments that for pretty clear reasons would put her at odds with some of her teammates yet from a coaching standpoint. Is that enough just say, hey, like this person in this locker room could their views could create an issue, even if I need a left back. Sorry is that fair to you? When I look at the product. When I've seen games firsthand two or three times with Hickel in it against a Portland thorn opponent run. Right. I guess a well organized coach side with good players in other side. I don't know how successful she could be not in a counter press system. Carolina. Courage plays in that Liverpool type style gagging. Crested right. They play in that and the counter press, and they lock you into certain angles. I wonder how she would be if she was asked not to be in front of the centrebacks. She was asked to keep the line is you'd better than crystal done. No. I think people see as willing to deal with all the other stuff if she can't win you games. Right. You don't want him in the locker. No. It's a it's a fair. It's fair point. I was looking at you mentioned favorites. And I was looking at the odds the other day, the US women are plus two hundred. They're a pretty significant favourite. I think the next closest team is France the host and their odds are almost twice as bad. So the US is USA favorite is be favorite for you in the sternum into eighteen at the end of that year. I was absolutely they're going to win. This thing. Do you know? I'm like, oh, dear God that was the it was horrible, tactically. They got pulled apart and some players that need to step up to secure the starting spot struggle. So this next game these next games, especially Australia. We'll give me a better answer that. But I think you have to be really wary of France because that coach don't mess with her the girl that scored against the United States. She not benched. She's not even in this next roster for France coming up because she didn't like her work. Great. This was the best player. They had in the field against us and the coach you're not coming in until your work. Right. Improves francis. Plus three seventy five which is kind of the next looking at the odds, right? I'm not a gambling person. Yup. It's there the second favourite and might have might ask your teammates little bit later, but I wanna get your son's Netherlands England, you who who's your like you look at this here. The favorites. I've read them off to USA France, Germany, England, this is in order Japan Spain Netherlands, Brazil, Sweden, Australia Canada. Norway's the twelfth favourite. Any of those that you say you see how far down that list Australia, but that's easy money. I know, but when you or your coach totally winning in dynamics within the team. Yeah. England, very very good. And it back well coached right Japan showed that they're actually pretty good. When people thought they wouldn't be maybe more ready for the Olympics because you have such a young roster. I think she brought twelve uncapped players this last tournament. I would say Netherlands is another one. You gotta watch out for everyone. Just crushing. They are the young six six team. Yeah. In terms of favorites. So they seem good. But yeah, I mean, I feel like for the first time in a long time. There's not like a two or three team elite. There's like almost six or seven teams on the win. It. And I guess like my question that feeds off of that is is that a good thing for us soccer's have signed that everybody's caught up is the sign that everybody's kind of good or bad or inevitable. The same for the past two cycles has been the one that's caught up. And now it's a sign of we need to figure out how to improve. And the good thing is is where we can improve. You could teach that it's all about getting the coaches. Across the entire nation and like figuring out a coaching style. And what you want to curse me to educate our coach better. It's a technical tactical. That is letting us down. It's so funny to hear you say that I hear I talked to so many former players so many of them American men, women, whatever and one of the first things they point to in this country is coaching. And it's you know, there's so many where they've gone overseas. They've been like, wow, it's such a different level such a different level. And you get prepared in a way that you. I think every player that's quality should go overseas just to see because they have to go through Sony more coaching levels because they're smaller countries. Right. And you'll have I think it's what forty percent, or volunteer coaches the United States at the youth level. Otherwise, you're doing pay to play at Asia, eight in Wisconsin. It's fifteen hundred bucks at the age eight and you're spec. Three times a week. And I'm like, I'm not doing that. And then I get right. And I get like daddy daycare for, mommy. Daycare because I coached and I was horrible at it. No. But that's I mean, that's part of the issue with right fro. It's interesting. I always wonder if like some of it's just inevitable. Hey, the US has such a head start. There's going to avoid the fat. But it's a good thing. Is that the other countries are investing it, I love it? Everyone's catching up, but now, hey, United States US soccer. We can do better because we have to if you want to win. So now we have one final. A country that for me is fixing to explode Spain you look in the crowds that they've gone recently around women's the investment of teams in Lalita Athletico Madrid is a team that will be here for the international Cup. They have a very very I think well funded and properly resourced women's team alone a lot into so. And if you think about the quality over all of the Spanish technical player, and the this isn't a secret to those of us that have watched the end W w sell. We remember when barrel book was here. Like, we remember all those that came over and remember them in the western New York flash had like three or four Spaniards, and they were pretty good cousin. So I think you know, Spain is a team that whether they whether they do it this world hover. Not like you talk about emerging powers and they've got to be right at the top of the list. So let's take a break when we come back. We'll be we'll get with your teammates talk a little bit about five aside game. We'll do some ninety nine memories. And then we'll maybe we'll talk about some of the stuff that's going on around the women's game. Now, equal pay. And maybe some other headline grabbing things I'm really interested. Get everybody's thoughts. On a Libyan mole tree this young lady. Who's now playing with the Portland thorns, very very interested. You just talked about pay to play at eight. I mean this this young kid. He is thirteen. Exactly that she's flip that narrative on its head. So we'll take a quick break on the other side some more than ninety nine legends. Join us. We're back from the international Champions Cup in New York City, KMart grass Evesham Salazar Joan by a couple of other ninety nine dollars Christine. Lilley, brandy Chastain. Thanks so much for being here. I want to dive into some very very important topics. But first of all the five aside game last night. Like, how's everybody feeling awesome? Probably feeling better and wearing white lake pants, and you we're going to be swollen. And they are to do, you know for all the jokes must have been a kind of surreal cool moment. I feel like for all of us. That were watching it. It was surreal. I was falling in on social media guys playing. It was it as cool as it was for the rest of us. And it was great. I mean, the CIA. The fact that we had the opportunity to see each other is awesome. And then actually play which I think all of us were like city, but I I was talking to people afterwards. It's so funny. It started off like, oh, we're just going to have fun and knocking around. And then someone's scores, you're like, okay. We need to step it up because we just got on the net competitiveness always comes out. I mean, I we can't keep it away. And I think that's why we were also success. It's the worst in that regard like who who elevated it to like super serious way. Too quick. All right at me. On the way, some things never change. What what else was kind of interesting about last night? I mean were there any other kind of standout moments that that you thought were, you know, things that you'll take with you guys have lived amazing things in your life. I I wonder if that was something that you'll you'll cherish. There's two things number one. The fact that Kyle Martino invited assaulted com to support supporting kids like that. He thought that we would help him help other people. I think is invaluable really. I mean when I think about what we did with the women's national team. And what when people talk about legacy. You know, it's not that you want a game. It's what can you do with that platform that will help other people? So last night was was about a five soccer match. But it was really for something bigger. And so I think that's the first takeaway and the second one is I'm a huge soccer fan. So for me, Claudio Raina Tab Ramos. I mean, you don't get to play with people like that very often. I was sad that they were not on my team. So, you know. Yeah. But my I won there. There is an incredible mural and the battening where you guys were pictured, right? The backs with your arms intertwined with a couple of the men's players Christine. How is that seeing that what type of feelings of that? Well, I it's it's I incredible the talent of of the Mariel itself, but also to bring the men's and women's side together was incredible. In like, I said we I mean, we we were playing on the US team when they're playing the men's team, and we were always like this. We were never joined and you're saying. And we know we always supported them and and wanted to be happy for all their successes, but now to come together and be a part of something to help kids. Like brandy said, and then to be together and share stories, and now we're all talking about how we can help the game, you know, not playing it anymore. So I think it's it's it was actually surprisingly I knew it was gonna be great. But even a wonderful night with them on the field. But also all field. One of the smaller details, but something that I'm sure mental out to you guys was also that Tony's on the mural kind of looking over the court. I thought that was a brilliant and. I think critical touch when we talk about like people who have been important. It's not just players there are others. And I know he's somebody that that influenced all of you guys probably monumentally Tony was the one who brought me back to the national team. So I'm forever indebted to him and his family. Really? I mean, it wasn't just him doing his job his family had to support him in a way that our families supported us being gone all the time. And and so to have Diane and Anthony there to see the mural and to present them the game ball and to say, thank you one more time for all that they gave to the women's national team for the, you know, for us to be successful. We needed Tony to be there. And they did that. So that was it was wonderful to listen to Michelle her wonderful. Michelle Akers way, you know, talk about Tony. And and to share some tears really about what it was like to play for him and to be around him. So it was it was a special night all around. You know, I love though, is the fact that. That a player came up with that idea Kyle knowing how important is tremendous a coach is in your performance in your happiness and in your achieving your dreams. And so he was recognized in a way that was proactive because we can't control like next week when we have our reunion how we're going to be honored. And it's almost like someone took control and decided to honor him in a way that was the highest honor that I had seen, but that's twenty years ago. So speaking of twenty years ago, let's go back to ninety nine a little reminiscent of last like twenty everybody citing I would assume it's kind of like with with my college buddies just have we never did anything important. But the you're immediately like back in that group. Right. So what what are the memories of the discussions? Now, it's like you're back in that moment. I mean, this divorce still bussing on each other for the simple similar things. And we still enjoy each other's company were laughing and having fun. But I think everyone was everyone's always asking. Well, what do you remember most about you know, the World Cup, and they're like, well, what are your favorite moments? I'm like the locker room. I loved the time. We had in the locker room the stories the laughter. We created how much we cared about each other. And but then also when you step on the field. How hard everyone worked and wanted to be the best for each other and input each other to to be champions. Now. My question was we always had music, and there are two songs that stick out in my mind, especially when Bill and Hillary Clinton, President Clinton, we're in our locker rooms, and we would of course are talking to us. But then we'd slowly tramp the music because we love these songs so much Brandon. Do you remember those songs have neighbor? I think you can phone friends. You can find seeing because to be honest with you. I think in the after that World Cup. I feel like I tried to remember these little, you know, when we talk about re stay in the moment. Remember these moments like, I think I blacked out. I was having so much fun. You know, like it was just so old. So it could be there. We can talk. We can talk about that later. But Lil I'm going to defer to you because you always make made the best wings etait mix tapes. No. That she made mis mixed take carpet or is not pump up. I'm not. No, no. I'm not saying. Of making them. She loved making them ideal. May she it sounds like she ru would remember the the one that case talk in the locker room with the civilians was actually boys. I want it that way at the same time and. Rickie mark. Yeah. My span than we. He doesn't like he doesn't love that. But it was often go dancing. Sorry. I love him. Yeah. No. Yes. That moment. I think always encapsulates like whenever I hear those songs, right? It's an instant trigger. But there's lots of funny stuff that happened. So you unique on and off field. I would be curious like one of the things I this can Kate was like, what is the moment that you like people won't believe. Right. Like, maybe it's been sanitized glorified forgotten now. But like, you know, what is something that people won't believe about that ninety nine team like behind the scenes something that that like maybe everybody who's working other jobs or doing because like now professional athletics is evolved to the place to a place where like everything's taken for granted. And everything's kind of done for athletes. I don't think that's what it was like for you guys in in the ninety s and certainly in the ramp to ninety nine what's it? I would say, I think something that doesn't exist. Now is that there wasn't a separation between them and us. You know, the people were a part of the team and they were embraced in. Welcome to come to practice, and you know, the amount of time the players. Spent with fans was unbelievable. Like, you will not see that again. Unfortunately, the chasm is way too broad for just let me just like thousands of people showing up to practices. Then I think also the players have changed and how you interact with one is changed. Right. Like, I think the big business. Yeah. The biggest benefit I think we had was the time in which we hit a big which was no cellphones. I think Adam silver the Commissioner came out two weeks ago at the Sloan conference, basically saying like cell phones are ruining team chemistry increasing higher levels of anxiety and players, and for example, the number one team, Milwaukee Bucks. They have mandatory soon to go to the warriors, son. They have mandatory. Yes before and after games, right? And so it reminded me of we didn't have enough money to all drive. Our own cars to the places we drove today. Together, we carpooled we were in like figuratively and literally one school bus to everywhere because we didn't have the resources to separate us goes to school buses, well, essentially, some of them. That are important to tell. Would do clinic. So we could have a field. Like, I mean, honestly, we we sold the game of soccer to everyone. And I don't think we looked at it. Like, why are we having to do this? We said, you know, this is what we want to do. And we'll do anything to make it happen. Almost evangelists in some way. Right. Soccer is. Vangelis? I think too was we were part of a team that it didn't matter if you recap them to starter reserve, everyone did the same things. And I think Carla our captain was a great example. Like if we're going out to practice in the ball bags there. She wasn't like oh, some rookie. We'll get it. Yeah. She picked it up. So the leadership was setting example for us right off the bat, and we were serving each other. We constantly were if Kate forgot her Xinguar wasn't like we'll leave it here. She's gonna get busted. I bring him out to her. You know, those kind of things that we did to help each other be successful. And and push each other on the field because that's the stuff that we knew would help us be champions. And for me, it was I was making twelve thousand dollars a year because I was a tier three player, and I lived in my parents basement. And then after he won the World Cup often. I could like have life changing money. Not in the sense of what most freshmen athletes would say is the fact that I didn't have to work another job, and I flew with my parents in order to survive, and that was huge, right? And it wasn't six figures at the time. But now, thankfully, the women's team is which is interesting considering where they. Are now from where we came from. And I'm so happy fought for so long to get them to that position. It's interesting because the idea of starting center back on a world championship team living with their parents is like, that's that's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. You won't you won't believe it won't. Much as Islas moved out of the league started with the Boston. And then I got Kate as my roommate league, I think. The league. I think we talk about this at the top of the show. I do want to shine some light on what the international Champions Cup is doing with. They're you know, their Women's Club tournament. They both started their being more and more ambitious with it. And I was looking at like with your career you pay sixteen years on the national team that you played like four or five clubs seasons. Like, do you ever think what kind of player or asset? What kind of player I would have been? If there'd been clubbed like there is now I- I jokingly say, you know, what the girls have now explained I coach you sucker, and I share things with them. And I said God if I only had a coach when I was growing up thinking what I could have done, and then they laughed like coach you're a world champion in. You're an Olympic gold medalist. And I think that's right. I would but no. But I think you know, there's good and bad. You have to careful what you ask for. You know, I think part of why our teams were successful is because we were resilient. We were gritty we were determined. There was people out there saying what the hell are you? Doing why you're doing this? Nobody's doing this who wants to do this. And we we do and we invested in ourselves and we invested in each other. And the great thing of what's happening now. Like, you said is women have a platform. They've never had before they get to play on these wonderful clubs. I played overseas in Japan for year. And and literally was asked by an endurance. Why are you doing that? And I said, well, I'm not on the national team right now. So, you know, I'm following my I'm chasing my dream. I'm chasing my dream to play. And this is where it's taking me. And now we're taking young women is to play in the icy sea to play in the World Cup to play in the Olympic Games, and to do whatever the hell it is. They want to do. And and to be honest. We can do it unapologetically now. Whereas before I think we had to say, I'm sorry. I really want to be a part of this. Can you please invite me, no more? We're invited think when you do that. When you support the women's side, you see what happens? I mean you see the game in Spain. Cici thousand people what happens when you decided back something that we believe in the women's game and things change and all these federations now, I mean you got Jamaica in South Africa Scotland professionalize. Yeah. But those seems the first time in the in the World Cup now. Look what happens. Yeah. What happens to these countries there in the first the World Cup for some then they they compete. They do well. And then they're they're organizations like we need to back them. And then when they back them they're going to get better. And then the competition of the world game. Right, right. You just gotta support probably not a better example about than Japan. Right. I mean, people forget like in the first World Cups. Japan was an also ran was cannon fodder. And now, they're you know, they have been champions. I'd like to think that I was visionary by going there. You know? Like, I said, I don't what's coming. I I didn't triggered. I knew I went through. And I saw. Technically, they're they're incredible. You know, what they do in small spaces is second to to no one. So I think going there was a learning experience for me coming from a place who had won a World Cup. But really didn't understand soccer in that way. So it was a blessing. Oh, I think it's interesting that of all development, not only fan support. But as well as technical and technical of all the different countries that we were talking earlier, you know, usually as US somebody else would be the favorites. Now, you have six people that are the favorites to win this. So people have caught up, but with that in mind, the US has always been at the top of the pay scale and recently, the us right on International Women's Day file, a lawsuit gender descript federal gender discrimination loss when you guys think about that. You know, what this this conversation? The fact that we have to have it still in two thousand nine hundred and it's exhausting. But I am I'm so grateful that our teams were I think wonderful role. Models for fighting for what you believe in. And the fact that these women are being tireless in the pursuit of what should already be. I'm excited about that. Because what they're doing is. They're showing the next generation of women who can stand on their own feet. They can say their piece they can have their voices heard, and they can be strong. And so they're carrying on a fight that has been so long in the making. And I'm just sick that we still have to have this conversation. But I'm happy that they're carrying the torch. I think the what we've created on the US side is we've created a platform and we've been successful winning. And then obviously moving our federation into paying us through a process. And now these women are at a stage where we're getting paid. But hey, we're not gonna stop and they have the platform to do it. So I was I was surprised because I didn't I we're not in tune to what goes on with the team or I'm not anymore. But then I was like, you know, what they have is platform. And I think the the challenge for them is not only this fight, which is tiresome that brandy said, but also to balance this and make the World Cup team. And then win a World Cup. And then keep keep that fight going. And that's that's a challenge. And that's unfortunate that they have to do that. But this is a platform that they have. Do you think that could impact the team we kinda saw in two thousand sixteen? I don't know that the elimination in the quarterfinals had to do with it. But it was right around that time that that this kind of ferry at least publicly antagonistic relationship with the federation was kinda come into light. They purposely. Did it right? So now every time we're talking about the World Cup. You're going to have on your the who is currently has a lawsuit against US soccer. So that's the reason why they did it is for tension to keep the conversation going. So it doesn't happen after the World Cup. And they're also not doing it where they're holding US soccer hostage, which is different than almost the last time with the turf situation from two thousand fifteen so the environment is ripe to have this discussion with these guys are saying, so I think they must have incredible confidence in their leadership that they're going to be able to compartmentalize the off the field issue. So they can concentrate on the on field task which is winning a World Cup. So it's going to we're going to find out what the outcome if I can just ask go direct question in your the federation adequately supported you guys. Well. I don't know. They didn't. And I think they know they didn't I don't think it's a secret anymore. I mean what I've been talking about this reminiscent with people. And when I was in the team eighty seven to ninety one I was in college or ninety three I was in college. So I couldn't get in money. But the fact that was sixteen I was going on the road. And I was getting ten dollars a day. I thought that was incredible. Sixteen. So we were new they didn't be proactive early on because they didn't have to because we weren't raising anyone's. But I think if they look back there like, you know, what we didn't do enough then. And now they're seeing the frustration of what happened then into what's leading to know just from the left or you kind of agree. Absolutely. But you know, I think sometimes, you know, in our defense, you don't know what you don't know sometimes. And so when you presented this opportunity to wear the US soccer crest on your jersey. And you're a dedicated soccer player. That's that is an amazing gift. And you don't you don't do. I want to be for anybody. I didn't do it for the money. Never in my wildest imagination was soccer going to be my career. You know, I was born in the sixties and women weren't participating in sports. This is pre title nine. This is like, you know, if it's unbelievable where we have come. And in in a way, I'm like I want to like brandy. Why didn't you wake up earlier to say why didn't you say something why didn't you do more? But but honestly, I was so in this is a term women use a lot grateful. I was really grateful for the opportunity. But now, I look back in and said, you could be grateful and still be demanding and still you you should get what you deserve. And so I think that's the change. That's really come out of ninety nine. I think even you know, even the last five years, I think that's the change. That's happening. So I'm happy to say that we're going in the right direction. I think soccer is also taken another hidden terms of a wake up call and things are changing and pseudo know what you don't know was there like a lightbulb moment for any of you guys say, well, hey, this we are being treated differently in this isn't this is the way it should be. Or there too many to count which one lightbulb. I think for me I I mean in one thousand nine hundred the World Cup in Sweden and that that World Cup. Michelle was fighting for Harare foot because Umbro sponsor wanted to sponsor her. But at this time we from head to toe. We were in Nike at the time the head until you had to wear Nike. So we didn't have rights to her feet. Michelle was like why want the sponsorship because obviously it's going to help me make some money and actually survive and she fought for her rights, and we got the right store feet. And I think that was the first inclination like, oh, wait hold on. We got we have some things that we didn't really we have the rights to we all got to be get sponsors. If you wanted to you had income coming in to be able to do something more. And that kind of was the first sign of well, there's more to we can fight for. Any other kind of big moments for you guys that you say. I think looking back. I remember after the ninety one World Cup going back to school. I went back to Santa Clarita finish. And I remember receiving a card in the mail a letter in the mail, and I opened it up. But it was like it was from US soccer. Congratulations on what a wonderful experience your World Cup champions. Thank you so much for representing US soccer. And such a great way. Here's a check for five hundred dollars for World Cup champion. Well, at that time is the world championship. Sorry. I'm gonna tell you. It was the Eminem. Yeah, Eminem but didn't get while. I was in college second. But I still. I thought. Wow, just like you ten bucks a day, then I can go to the movie, I could do laundry, and even like, maybe, you know, get something else later, but I thought that was like a huge moment. And and now the more the farther away, I get the more. I think man that is just not right. Like, I just you know. You know, I'm fighting still as youth coach to make sure that my girls get the same time on the soccer field. They do with on the football field with soccer lines. Like, there's no reason the boys should always play on that field. And for the people who have the luxury of playing on that field. They don't realize what it's like to be on this field because they have this field all the time. And so my job is to remind them on a constant basis. Hey, hello. We're here. We're not going away. You you need to look at us. And you need to treat us exactly how you treat this group. And that's important. It's amazing is the two thousand nineteen I have a lot of friends who have kids that are coming into the soccer playing age. And even they talk about feel time. It's so tough to come by. Right. And they talk about for practice times bow his teams in two thousand nineteen get slotted. And then the girls teams get the leftovers and these are in clubs in areas. That you would think are very evolved. Or however, you wanna put it, and and this is still kind of common practice, which I think, you know, for all the progress made I think it's the point. I'm trying to make is that they're still obvious prices where they are still a long way to go all all the progress that we do want to celebrate just think I think it's things that become invisible. Because the people who are making the decisions, it doesn't impact them the way impact somebody else. And so they have to themselves be more thoughtful, they have to think a little deeper and understand what it's like on the other side. And and if that means that we Kate Christine myself any other woman out there who has a voice need to speak up. I only have one other kind of big picture thing that I'm curious to get your thoughts on it's not ninety nine related, but it is kind of progress related. I don't know if you've got how closely you all the news. But a Libyan will tree is his thirteen year old young lady who has signed with an agency and is playing with the Portland thorns. She played against the US, you twenty three the other day and scored a straight question is that a good thing or a bad thing. I think that's the question. Is it a good thing or a bad thing? I have personally because it could be worth ways, right? And could be I mean, you could look at what the growth aware Morad on the these women now have decisions to make instead of like the only decision to go to college. Personally, college does more for you than just the game and get an education you grow as a person. There you social skills you're around your you meet friends in your living on your own in an environment where you're not really on your own. So there's so much growth that happens in that process. And it's it's a tough call. I just and the other. Part of his injury health. And are you gonna still like it into your? She's thirteen years old. I mean, the she I mean, imagine Christine Lilley at thirteen years old. I would not be doing. But I mean, but four behind you put in the team at sixteen let's Christine when she was in high school, and I lived in Connecticut, and I think you were fourteen or fifteen at the time and you had like Rouge socks and barely any shin guards your hair was down here. It was that. But I didn't I was never going to school. School. I was at my home. I was in a just different. And I think the part of me that gets little scared is in the environment. We're at is. Everything's pushing these kids at such a young age to do so much and everything even at the club levels or the everything's like being professional. They're not professionals their their kids. We're we teach in the game. They need to have fun. They need to be kids. And we're so much is going into the two degrees up in these this so early and so it it scares me a bit. And I hope everything goes, well, I have met her and her family before. And so I hope it all goes, well, and she has a good support system in and continues to love the game and stays healthy. Brennan. This one makes my head spin to be honest with you, I think, you know, coming from the parents side as a parent I'm thinking, there's a long there's a lot of time in your in your future for you to do this. You know, there's a lot of things like Christine said about being a kid that are really important I valued the college experience as a wonderful jumping off point to being an adult and without those experiences. I'm not sure that I would have been prepared to handle some some of the things that were thrown my way. But I look at the other side. And I think, you know, why should anybody be able to tell her that she can't be a professional? You know, wh why would we want to impede somebody who has talent or has special skills? And you know, I think on top of all that because she's a young girl. I think it becomes trickier. When people look at it like, she's just a little girl. Like, that's what I hear. And I'm thinking. Yeah. But she could be a real cool bad ass. Young woman's in a very short time. You know, I I want her to be safe physically. I think the the game is very demanding. Now, maybe more demanding than it's ever been and the amount of games the the players that are playing now the speed of the game. You know, it could be taken away at any point. So that's the thing. I think that I rule on the most. And so like Lil I I wish her the best, and hopefully, it will force more people to look at women's sports in a way that they've never examined it before. I think that's for me. There's there's something there's a case to be made that it's a sign of progress that a thirteen year old girl woman is is being valued in this commercial way. Right. You can you can make that case. Here's the issue that I have with it all is that developmental allies for a woman, and we don't peak until we're twenty thirty like, we're the fastest. We're going to be we've got our anaerobic and aerobic, right? If they get all technical for boys, it's much younger. So make sense. If we make that argument like well boys are doing this. They're going over there getting signed to contracts overseas and makes sense because they're gonna hit their physical peak at a younger age. So can we scale or at least sixteen right because between thirteen and sixteen. That's incredible growth, right, psychologically, physiologically everything. What's key for her is just going to be that support network? Right. It cannot be about outcome at all. It has got to be about just improvement. And if everyone around her keep that in mind, then I think she has the best chance to get through this emotionally intact. I mean, I think we've we've we can use one example. Let's talk about, Freddie. Do very briefly told me a story that came and it was like, oh my gosh. Here's this young guy and everything was thrown out him. And if I asked you, where's you do? Now. He's retired. I could also tell you that he had a fifteen year career played in a Gold Cup final and made a lot of money. You know, I don't know if you house all that money. But there's a success story there on immigrant. I think the question is what what how do you determine or define success? What does that mean? Like personally, you know, emotionally, physically like monetarily. I mean, what is success, right? Yeah. It's a good question. It's kind of a global question. But I think when you when you talk about kids, we it it takes another Tara. Of. Let's we I know we got to wrap up something some quick here before we get to the shirt. I just want to get your thoughts on the woke up. You think you're gonna win it this year we have a twenty year celebration reunion. Not my anniversary. Listen, my heart is always with the red white blue always. And I believe we always have a pool that can. Can create a team that can win a World Cup without a doubt. Now looking at the field comes the but no no looking at the field. I don't think it will be. It's not as clear cut. I think as maybe we would hope it would be. But I think that's the beauty of the World Cup. You go there. And you're gonna play the best teams in the world. I think France is going to be a beast. I think playing in France is going to be remarkable for them just as it was for us in ninety nine. And I to me, I think they're the team to beat something just popped into my mind. They're based off something you tweeted last night, the pressure of being the host you guys lived through that in ninety nine you mentioned Francis, a potential, and if you look at the bookmakers or the second behind the US, what is the pressure of of hosting a tournament like on as in inside that locker room is it real. Well, I think for us as players we want to win. So the fact that that's the pressure what we want to. So this will wear a goal is going to be. And I think it's created the it escalates from the outside people. I mean, everyone talking about it like, oh this or this or that. So I think what we did at ninety nine or I did personally I can remember embraced the the comfort of the home field advantage of the crowd. When things were going bad. I heard the crowd when things are fine. I was like, okay, we're good. So I think it's we were about of. Okay, we're hosting this. And we also wanted to sell we were still in the game. So it wasn't like just winning. We were like, okay, we just need people to come. And then when that happened after the first game, I think we took a deep breath like, okay, we can focus on playing 'cause we got that. And we used the support in the I think the that we had from our fans everywhere tour advantage, and I think the France can do that and feel that they're going to be pretty powerful. Well, I think we're sorry. Go ahead k-, but of all the countries who's been a bit of a mental midget, historically. It's been France. So as long as they've been doing the work prior to this. They don't all of a sudden talk about pressure a month before. The World Cup as long as they're putting in the systems and the strategies in order to handle it. I think they're going to be like the team to beat besides the challenge is different for them than it was for us. They're playing football in front of a football strong country. Yeah, we're we are selling soccer to general Joe public. You know, we we were we were hoping to gain fans. So you know, it was it's a different environment for them. These the fans that will be in France. No soccer. They understand what it looks like what it feels like the pressure their men's team won the World Cup. I mean, so this is not won't be new to those fans and their expectations will probably be very high. But as a player to be honest with you, nothing on the outside matters. You are in control of everything you do. And if if what Kate says doesn't rear itself, then I think I think as footballers go they're going to be difficult to. Handle. So they'll have a moment. Like this. Let me show very smooth transition. You're gonna take my job. Santo? That's my goal for those on the podcast. We're looking at a or listening. We're looking at a shirt of a silhouette of brandies famous celebration after scoring the game winning penalty against China in the nineteen ninety nine. You can't see it for sure on nothing glory, isn't that? We're folks get that. Because I feel I you know, that's a moment. We all kind of remember where we're well. You can get it at the loyalist dot com slash brandy Chastain. But really, you know, what's important about this. This picture is. I get so many people who say, oh that means this to me in this. It means this to me, and what I really hope that this picture gives to everybody is that everybody has a reason to celebrate something the good the good, the small, the big whatever it is where this and think about you know, today, I did today I accomplished, and then you should own that moment. And so for me, that's what this shirt represents. And that'll be a constant reminder that I didn't have to take a penalty. Spread. We got this conversation nervous. She to take tournament. Ten caps in. Thank you got your first goal. For that. All right. Well, I would just finish up by saying this. There's you know, there's moments in in all of our lives. We're kind of remember where we were a lot of them are kind of tragic moments like September eleventh. I remember exactly where I was when you guys did what you did. I was my grandfather's house watching it with people who knew nothing about soccer, and they were all glued to the TV. So I'm on a personal level. I'm very honored to have had this conversation with you. And to be in your presence. You are really special people who've done special things for the game in this country for women in this country. And I think it's every twenty years we kind of jump up and remember that. But it's it's evident every day in the twenty years since so thank you for all the three of you have done not just in this podcast. But the last one years, thank you very much.

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