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104. Cahetel, la abundancia

AstroC?bala C?smica

23:14 min | 5 months ago

104. Cahetel, la abundancia

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Part 2: Sid Fernando, Billy Kotch, Scott Hazleton

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

56:11 min | 1 year ago

Part 2: Sid Fernando, Billy Kotch, Scott Hazleton

"All Sig Fernando joining US Good Morning Good Morning Steve said I wish you were here what would you last time you were out here out of curiosity well I remember I was out there last year I I hung out with you and Roger Line that's right that's right Ah Alan jumped down my throat when I when I made that that classic alleged axiom that German horses I missed being a grade one winner you know but has defeated grade one winners run great against grade one winners and she goes out in this race and get sold the following week and show when I was laying out the lineup and I mentioned back to of readers cup discussion with algae back from the form and really really dig in and you were digging in any way because with the sale coming up the bloodstock sale next week I saw that piece you wrote about it's it's it's power oasis dream hooking outstandings down all the way back to going back stay and there's there's more people that are going to come to the races tomorrow and through the weekend so after after really a Sunday Monday Tuesday that make sure that they they seek that out yeah I I agree with fleet to I think the worst I think the American has a good chance Dan j on the on the European side of things but it's interesting that you know people talk about well you know to European pedigree can they run the the excitement the electricity factor number of horsemen from out of town now in with the horses they have to be on the rounds by Laforce and there's actually a couple of people including Brad free who have felt that Laforce could end up I love it soft and nothing sets him off like that because he said that's an old wives tale they don't like it anymore soft than any other kind of sires dirk here's here's a mad that's proving it you know she's been running on dirt and by all accounts you know I think the top Philly by German Derby one or several son of the outstanding German Monson but I'm topside I don't know it today is the first day honestly it feels it feels like the energy level has picked up and sort of that seems a little subdued I think I think things are are starting to ratchet up and certainly after you get the draw you can start considering something in that distaff but you were talking about her German breeding and I want to invite people to walk oh about that was what was that at thirty Delmar yeah that's right that was del Mar del Mar you get a piece of it you know it's got to be very European pedigree obviously not just the German park to it which is from German but damn and and and pedigree lines he said don't ever say that again and it was great but what explains Suada you know it's been described and this is something that Europeans the Yoshida and Japan and over the years since then since about ten twelve years has always been a few German mirrors in the sales just in it until animal kingdom won the Derby and he was out of Dallas here german-bred Damn and suddenly and you know in this country people really didn't get a Taser at speed or didn't get fooling verse pedigree up front a lot of these mares might not be huge but there's enough pedigree they're in it traces you know people here became aware of that type of breathing I believe Japanese will buyer they love German mirrors and I I kind of made a reference I don't know if you're listening right at the beginning of the explain the I wanNA call it a diner former or or King Mambo ask kind of of of rawness and and hardy they've always sold well the JAPA- your sheet of brothers have picked up several of them on the wrong even handful but the the main characteristic is they do like stamina so in Japan that's that's well we've got we've got plenty of mixing and matching and bloodlines the consider in this breeders next to the arch both turf winners here and you know graded stakes winners and you know even here and you you remember this right down to end changing rewarded she's rewarded her with the global access and the other one man this is something that is part of the breeding program Japan so it makes sense for them to to to get that type of course out fully turf if you go there Steve Bad postition but the up said and as always we get to this juncture and I kind of turn it over to you and you've sifted through the lineups right right Mrs Webb Mrs Weber bought that Mary Now people out of money for that matter is very familiar in Europe where the favor and I'll tell you the horse do like here US bites down US American Pharaoh more than ready and then Warfront who's basically obviously but the breadwinners this year for libel plantation from the Mayor Dabble so Amir like Laforce that lanes in sound I think they're gonNA think you know the always the German mayors the bug lines tend to reinforce a lot of stout in a in a horse in a chat I philly aware of its stabbing don't worry in Ahrar European house mouse breaks it up not never again often European street bras showing was considered so highly by the Ryan that she made her debut in a group three race this is the first living in the past by bungle in the jungle European second by Dan Demand European third and it's interesting when you look through this by the way we could juvenile fillies turfing trace rate Friday look at the sires a and have come up undoubtedly with some pedigree plays so I'll where where do you WanNa go where do you WanNa Start Well Callisto race by six lengths this race is at a up flat mile in Rhode She was short that's the only way you can describe it after five months away in May something happened she was off for real really longtime five months or so just came back last month working never a European sire obviously right here I blame has one then you get bated breadth another European side it's for the first time bet on that great cross which is warfront this case Sadler's wells you've seen a lot of warfare and Galileo I'll tell you the one of one of the worst that I do like trying to the biggest but Ryan Moore's writing she came back subsequently tango and to win a to win a race is that warfront at Trois Aidan O'Brien thank you dory rides Brian Lee you best I think in obviously young horses and turf gives you a act to a very good player and a lot of these types of marriage Create your own pedigree that the knicks other bloodlines and what does he do he puts her range of back in Chieveley Park group one okay and Donegal Brian you throw a lot up against the wall you know bring a bunch over but you know they they all they all have something let's say Dan Glide they like to hear their feet rattle in other words like from ground and and the European form really six-furlong rate Philly there is GonNa make mile here it's that warfront bad posts but frankly torey frankie dettori loves to try to beat Ryan more he's got a shot in the same stable this time for I think that you know she probably set up for these waves pretty well I like it all right let's say coolmore breeding partnership of John Agnew's and this and was only really beaten five and five and have lunch for everything and the fourth in that race by the way is tango opportunity for that and one of the things Steve that this Philly has is the sire warfront mark but you take a cab at this silly would second in the French jokes got known the right firm ground if you look at a lot of the Europeans coming over and especially inside running good soft soft were yielding surfaces so you don't have to worry about that and you know she's she's a inexperience lightly race it's something that call more does notice the Breeder Orphan Dale Charleston why not that's a win at and and to donate numbers from Europe however everybody else's in American sire which is the yes I mean that's the way I kept coming back to but but that's what the reputation is any way for what is your blood does yeah I mean it's very stern is the best there's something about all of them that that makes sense so yeah right and that is true with what he does and what they've said but one of the things when you look on this and when you do look into the US a pedigree and pedigree can be family of Absa Darby Winter or ma this plenty of stamina behind you know they're throwing everything at war here but no-name never second crop I'm sorry that you obviously only running group races in two starts why not take the shot here personally yeah all right a and because I brought I brought her up actually with with Kelly reilly and Nick luck is going to join us in a little bit as well and I'm very and you know if you were going to take a shot with firm ground and more front and a horse ace which is race number six Breeders Cup Juvenile Perth this we've added stood at Ashford no longer there in Japan a declaration of war he's got what Aidan O'Brien and I think this needed last race she's twelve to one warning line and I think uh astounding you know or I should say stood in America because one of the words is one of the stallions Jews railroad she's a group winner and she was also a third in the Irish jokes it's funny media Fort Myers once again warfront Bread on that same crosses as as I mentioned to you who would twat what what's next well the other thing I'd like to just to point out is if if we go to the the other turf ring workfront Galileo and exactly the same kind of reasoning pedigree wise yes because the the there's certain certain outfits I think O'Brien has eighty sterling said it yesterday and he has a tendency to the the second in the Zuma beach that's pretty darn good representation here horses the son of more front European race I think that in this particular race you could take a stab with the Hey I'm like the one I just mentioned to you there's a no name never from Europe get a chance to mention Jamie Spencer writing that was on shade and and Spencer has come very close of course including on on behind this mirror the damn a gag not just by being by Sadler's well to begin with is true yeah you know it's funny because horse came up earlier with with Kelly Reilly and I didn't so perfect last year in the in the juvenile turf sprint he has ridden horses that went on a lot of cases uh Fort Myers at twelve to one again in my opinion Wayne Lord Rides Raden O'Brien you're GONNA get from ground out they're gonna be Sharp and take that what trust me there's plenty of Stamina Lordon Lorden has has ridden what's interesting about Lauren's experience in the in the Breeders Cup is that even though he's only got one board hit and that was to be to be good and had plenty of things going for them cliffs of more and happily hunting horns he's got this horse that that he's that he's riding and and Moore's on the Nonni this horse is coming off a win of course the is the least likely and so on New York for goodness sakes a starbucks starting at star of New York with writers like Dettori on the other one who can really has the incentive to do it wane lord and gets the Mount The Lord and heads folded surprise against the Better thought stablemates this war the Job Oh God what is wrong with me like our daredevil last week yeah exactly that was funny but sounded like with the TWAT like the posted vision but you know you you take a shot bill they'll handle the the firm ground but he's only on either good to this again the price I weigh six looking really at that firm track and I think I think the war fronts really Brian Jock that's a Oh yeah that's a story potentially itself yeah and he listen he's got I look for I look for him it's really amazing when you when you think about they never Arizona and you know at six furlongs is less than two lengths separating them principles Godolphin gets a dent in their fender with Max field unable to participate on Friday but anything the girls Coventry that a mile coming up that win so perfect herself so there's it's he's just an interesting the the backup backup writer the The other the number of a declaration of war as we spoke in here because he's also sent a war front yeah Arizona obviously Arizona brings a line of form with the best source in Europe and obviously you know it's at the surface it's better than soft so with the breeding again Yup Yup who's undefeated had this horse was second only to lanks in the Elise is the seventh and the juvenile boys is the night okay so let me really quickly Juvenile Filly Ping in his riding lights out and the Lord and who's given the crumbs in the stable and always seems to occasionally pull one out I think I think the doors that I really like to Liam's map shelly wicked Darlie dewhurst that was unreal soft ground okay and got no name ever is terrific and I'm sure he's going to be so let's turn to Saturday or actually before even Saturday anything on pedigree on the to juvenile races and of course we lost one of the real constitution but not neither of those to have worsened the Breeders Cup juvenile but three interest rates right peace achieved WHO's the one of the Great Free Bourbon This summer jake this it's GonNa put a lien map right there at the top depending on how the American they're GonNa get better the Liam's maps as they get older and first crop a win here spiking the only freshman sire represented that's wrecking crew everybody else huge for him because got to weigh fight right now that's another aspect of this by the way American American found and the the colts rates which was raised number nine choice may track which races were those the tug on Friday. Yeah you mean you're talking which juvenile winner decorated invader and and Worby worby yeah was a one when the softer side of salt whereas this worse is coming off that I'm talking about Fort Myers now coming in Crisper I think saw the forget and she's very president that race composed exactly yeah exact- very good and So this this this win here wicked whisper for Liam's map would I'll tell you something about despite town several young spikes downs running but spikes down has yet to get ah that American ferrets quite a few in the in the in the turf races it's it's really leaving constitution as the odds in a grade one winner before June of your old year now there's always accept and all weather rage and both is already races he's one and yet they haven't done it it's interesting work June of their three year old year and he's that even if there's fast so what I've always told people despite sounds a Lotta people try to they're looking for classic courses the line battle no no that's hosted New York Post you know he had a lot stud career already Jiang chicken so you know if were proven Sira for me the it it's a shame with obviously what happened to Max Field just that spike town would fill that would fill that definition and yet that that's notable of course you know the the grade one opportunities they don't get it together until after the classics but in its rates you know eight rings weren't as compatible as the ones he was getting here so after you know siring maybe a set of empire maker first crop back in Japan here's the interesting thing he was sold to Japan who's doing well here but one mile and a quarter doesn't happen until after junior three you're weird because structurally even though they're fat verret there's less an interesting part of it but anyway that's that's that's that's really that's really that I do I can race chick tells you how environment and pedigrees play huge role in stallion success all turf racing even though he did well turf year they didn't take to the hard turf and and another factor was probably the mayor's that he got there great one opportunities at seven eighths you would think spikes down would have won a champagne or a present find out exactly right there's plenty of great opportunity because imagine if he was just there without the pedigree's he got here without the racing environment he got here he would have been considered a dismal failure you got good money from drug that is went to Japan and with a box over there that's that's that's amazing actually when you when when I think if you took a snapshot or a survey and you said the people about Perkowski being coached some money because that's rough lock in a lot of races any structure so if he can yeah that was that was that was Churchill but how about you owe Churchill Oh yeah the year before when Reverend broadly I don't know three or four states when his there and four seasons whatever he's comeback here I mean it's very first crop he has or on the verge of getting a champion despite that himself even though we spent the late developing horse didn't get good till he was five and six and that tray has been by spikes towns classy courses because you know grafted stamina to do stay you can you know you said several anyway he's like you eight rings let's quickly go to Saturday said if we have you know there's always you know they're they can accept their darts to the rules but that's something to keep in mind and one of the reasons for that is bad I got one for our country in the right and the turf for George Yeah the George Weaver wars you know man was shot you do have a rooting interest we have to qualify anything from here on in yeah yeah well you know what this is into with us sire watch pedigree focused brought to you by hill and Dale and said how classic selection and I know you've got we know code of honor if you figure one of those is going to be first or second and then you know higher power Yoshida I'm real bullish of four him on this race what happened was himself that one I bet wagering guide I included him as a as a distinct wager using the reverse trike key concept the idea that he'll be running late might not be wanted a mile and a quarter but he thinks he can get him there you know a lot of case scenario track brought him up for the last race the awesome again talk to win necessarily but I wanted people to be aware to take the opportunity he's the ideal horse to use a reverse a key thing it'll take four or five horses first and second the obvious players and then him third and even if you get frankly if you look into but for the for the twenty to one and I know he tower telling you the other day that he got thirty tweeted reporter Dallas Stewart's is training grade was kept in California the whole time to shipping back to Dallas and Barney Churchill exactly he was kept there to train over the track the entire time and I looked with with this rates being fairly wide open Mylanta forder Mr Fifty really is planning running choice next year you know on a good day you can run those races like he did when he was WanNa seeking the so in Europe have been twenty two one will do well I I also as part of the you got a slight upset her first or second you get get Yoshida involved get you know somebody other than the obvious Mackenzie you just ship into this race and race in California because the problems that way wanted to get get the horse race over the I got the race over the track of distance he didn't like pay scenario was against them and now at a mild the dirt mile and then look at these races leading up to the classic and seeking the soul is on the same kind of arc to run a good race only have an advantage over those that are shipping and on top of the race so I I got no problem with seeking the soul as a as a major in and look for those that that understand form cycle and and seeing patterns look at last year the two races leading up to always has talked about this that you know the horses that have been out here the horses that came early the horses have gotten a worker to over the track the Saturday card kids let's I don't WanNa take time away from you believe me scroll here to the to the Breeders Cup Turf and you know pretty much everybody from Brad Freon down that that follow this circuit have really driven home the point that in fact Jerry Brown also day Marlin is ordering your is going to work for him several of them towards the Bob Baffert has admitted what a lot of us know That Mackenzie has I done well but he's the obvious one but two or three to one and obviously bricks and mortar extremely consistent type wars last night game over here and I think I think a horse against here okay that works Anthony Van dyck interesting you say that yeah go ahead I think that you know he over the top he came back and he ran third to magical last time good ground but young whoa Mr Fifty one going mile and a quarter classic but they wouldn't let you know you couldn't get in say settled for this raising still ran a bang-up raise he was really primary shipped in easily won the northern dancer and You know I think I think this barn is so hot right twenty seven at race can be a bog it can be so soft it was listed good now can I think that they're pretty you know combination of appleby Buick for an upset and they can jump up and go five four by one with seeking the sole third and and you can also bet him win place as sanity again I think he's going to be higher than four one you've got to be with Anthony Van Dyke in it and and bricks and mortar at nine to five is going to be probably lower than that so wow and don't forget the female lines going all the way back to a personal ensign she she was good but you know I think it was probably Ryan on the faster sided good any handles all ground that's part of the Asia said slip in slip in another any any one or two others in this race no the rest of the rest the insurance you know should he happen to keep going and get up though you to kind of draw Sel Meyer style I I see the same pattern zero with Lenny showman but Steve Notes said and of course you and Steve Working working years ago at Triangle Publishing second city of right last year the three mile in the dirt mile that he did title well we love it and certainly wish Mr Fifty Good Luck Steve asking just weighed in by the way you Steve Listening and it'll be with us tomorrow first thing Sunday morning what's the point is just crazy you know and and and all I do is run around all all Saturday so she you know she doesn't it's not fun for her together you're such a lovey dovey couple great couple and it's always great to see that just assume for your sanity let stuff so somebody you'd think he'd be married to me is easy where it's still bargain he's doors I like your Dubai again you know great form That last week they said this is great I best luck I can't wait to do some recapping next week it'll be my first day home you got a 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window have great hair I have yeah I I call it the skunk it's very gray but it's been very lucky lately Steve Yeah it really yes it's called Magic time with it's the story of Hawk Koch in it's coming out I think November thing on my birthday like November seventeenth I'm turning fifty the voice of of Billy Koch everybody and of course little red feather who's had a banner year a good year where it's been very lucky we have great partners Robert Evans any any father father father yes my father's very good for my father worked on Chinatown I was GonNa say I knew their father has a book coming out I'm going to keep it until probably Sunday is one of those like playoff beard beard you gotta do it the enjoying herself out here yes I always do I love coming here obviously I talked to Aron wellman yesterday about the ambient circumstances he said three of seeking the soles four great grand sires have run the three fastest Kentucky derbies in history is the dominant personality ms raise the worst I like and I think he's Got Alpe Bowl today actually is the first day it feels like some of that has has fading into the background so that we can have a great any big racist I grew with this summer and we just destroyed del Mar and then it just kept going we've been very fortunate and now we have mirth and secret spice in the Breeders Cup and it's Felipe for lunch for friendship and then right up Huntington drive back to L. Hambro for for Ice Cream Felipe and filed its Scott Jason is is nodding yes and he's agreeing vow right yeah he said they're they're going to attack the GO-TO heirloom bakery do you ever go I've not heard does look great thank you his gray hair look at you I don't that actually I'm Scott I'm surprised you didn't use the microphone because the haircut oh come on that's how we're starting things off they Friday Saturday I agree I think it I think everybody's just looking forward to this weekend I know I was really calm yesterday and then last night was the first time I couldn't sleep I had my first sleep it'll Tuesday and have a great trip out there out there too now she can't come and it's just too much it's too long of a slap on Friday night and then got to leave i December last year when she was daring you guys toss your yeah now how how it so you know you guys love being in Europe that up on facebook on twitter so I wanted yesterday I slipped one twitter because I I had the the Dark Day daily double this is hopeless breakfast joints open up at like five am's a denny's right down the it doesn't have to be bliss night I was up from like two to four and I was deciding which like what net flix to watch because I just couldn't sleep number's going through my head ahead all I was thinking about all the races put Johnny v no John some people call him Johnny Z. There's actually a very funny story that that that Ron Anderson will not be allowed to tell well we gotta give it listen to glory was able to join us he'd be giving you the business that's true that's true give your cousin give your cousins Salona a plug on on any airwaves that involves Johnny z then of course Jay prison calls in Johnny Johnny B. C. Johnny Dean and no Peninsula A-aqam like you know if you're good enough he's going to put you in the right spot right if you don't win the race it's not going to be his fault which is I can't say that for a lot of other writers but it was Janis trip it was Janis trip to del Mar this summer yeah yes there's so many famous there's so many famous breakfast coffee joints listen I'm a big fan I grew up on it there was we had one at the farmer's market over on third warhorses over the weekend and I just there's something about it I was telling someone this morning when you look at the when you pick up the program and you see his name there's a Johnny Dean on your show a lot I went through your archive here kind of Co host guy every Monday Joe John been involved with this since day one and sometimes I thought it was a mistake and you meant uh-huh I be nice Churchill's turtles Friday night yeah Friday night nine nine o'clock nine thirty impeach cafe over here in on Roe v fantastic delicious yeah that's not all night it's opens I think seven thirty but that's a really good kind of coffee shop open or tomorrow if you're not coming to the races if you haven't been to the farmers market and then the grove they're on the cruise off the market it is so much fun so much fun and the the play that known as Empanadas got eleven oh my Scott Horne and we got good Mexican food well Johnny Dean fact I talked to Johnny who's in the air right now the jumpstarted his whole second because he was he was blind without a cane at Saratoga I three four weeks he hadn't been to del Mar since the Breeders Cup at Dome I just got really excited last night and I think Santa Anita's GonNa put on quite a show well at two o'clock is when my alarm because that's five am it's I'm getting prepared for the show Johnny John Away how how good is Johnny I mean you know what I mean I read an article I read an article on something that was the Iran I think it was the original do part you're right and the one the one out here is great too well at you mentioned the farmers market I'll give everybody a big push for those of you they're here today for instance and we discussed that you know going back to a big cap week when I was here and and also Sandy Derby Week You know the duress is is he's a hall of fame not darrow own okay because that's angels now a hall of Famer Not In horseracing wow I going to be sixty so relaxed I'm very relaxed I'm going to go up there but when you say fifty who is Johnny Velazquez his first agent I feel like there should be jeopardy music that he's a hall of Famer thank you very very rough with names although God is rough as poor jim the other day and they draw did you see his face Jim Casper uh I guess I guess can we put this on the I mean it's pretty much because of us I I will allow that if you if you can answer yes or Scott can answer didn't even begin to guess no idea big Dick Allen wow wow that's strong did I just take over your whole segment pretty I just want 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kind of turns his head and looks at me and his whole contingent and Gary My business partner Gary looks he goes hand think he remembered you I angle your way into that they asked us I don't know but it was really funny and the people who are listening have seen it and there's this moment where Sheikh Mo walks by and I'm like on three Super Patriot on the same day since then with Johnny vs researching hadn't thought about him and we're sitting there and I'm like I really think magical can beat sister Charlie goes yeah I do too and we're talking about her and talking about I leave the breakfast and then boom she's out you to Kinda give me that look and meanwhile so p Rotunda with the Breeders Cup said Billy I have to send this to do they're going to play this over here right I think we're going to that out so we not only did we save johnny vs career but we cooled magic you you see the impact that this man city scary just simply a long cool yourself that's my advice that is good advice 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633 Granada; Mount Ararat; Colombia's Rio Magdalena

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633 Granada; Mount Ararat; Colombia's Rio Magdalena

"People are still searching for evidence of noah's ark on mount ever met rick into climbed it to experience that fabled mountain for himself. It begs you to to question it all sorts of legends or the histories around it as well as the politics. The morrish heritage of southern spain makes the city of granada. Standout imagine in a society that leaves a big print guides from spain. Tell us how you can get in touch with seven hundred years of muslim rule and end lucia in the islamic architecture at the humber pallets accordion. The end of the lions added sates cosmic balance and wade davis tells us how one mighty river helps define the nation of columbia and you can really reach and touch the origin of a great nation. His explorations showed him how the andes the amazon end. The caribbean become united by the wheel. Magdalena it's all in the hour ahead on travel with ricky come along. Hey i'm rick steves. I love art and in my new book. Europe's top one hundred masterpieces. I share my favorites with gorgeous photos and vivid descriptions. It's a great hits sweep through art history via the finest paintings sculpture and architecture ever. It's all in europe's top one hundred masterpieces art for the traveler. It's available now at rick. Steves dot com today on travel with rick. Steves we'll explore one of the most famous mountains in the middle east rick antonsson. It tells he climbed the seventeen thousand foot toll. Mount arafat eastern turkey. Where the view show you are mia iran and the cradle of civilization and cruising the length of the magdalena river in columbia showed. Wade davis how it serves as that. Nation's lifeline let's start the our in one of spain's most alluring cities in the province of end lucia. It's an interview. We recorded just prior to the start of the covid. Shutdowns granada in southern spain was the last capital and stronghold of the morsch. Rulers of spain swept in from africa and seven eleven and ruled until fourteen ninety two their last palace. The humber is a memorial to seven hundred years of muslim and morrish rule in the iberian peninsula and today one of the most important and popular sites in all of spain. We're joined in our studio by two. Spanish guides manar and or as roma tip helped plan a visit granada and to better understand and enjoy the morrish heritage of spain heavier in horry. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for calling. Can you both kind of just explain where you live. And just briefly what you do have a leaving madrid's. We go to granada often eight times a year times a year. And you just You take groups there. actually Sort through all of the complexities of getting to the humber. Which almost every tourist in southern spain wants to check. Everybody wants the unique experience. Only need those things on exist anymore. The okay so we'll talk about that and or hey yes It warning malaita. Socrates enables from monica. I'm basically madrid now for quite a few years and i go. Maybe once a month through the number so muggy. 'cause you know the experience you when you think of a muslim morris society civilization in in southern spain or nigeria. A lot of people underestimated and lose. It was actually quite an impressive culture. Have gyro can you give us a little sense of what is end. Lose all under lose. It was the muslim kingdom in berea peninsula and lasted for multiple hundreds of years. I'm gonna now that was the last bostian is standing. What did it leave. Spain after it was gone was was there any positive value of islanders. that's debatable. But i could say yes. In the positive years muslims transmitters there were debasing link between nc and culture and the modern one because they translated all books to abbegg and a pass. The no leads cordoba. not too far from. That was the most fascinating cd thousand years ago in all of europe in all of the world's while that's quite a statement. I would say so. Yeah i mean really. We know the dark age the dark age five hundred years after rome fell in europe. When people almost lost to literacy. There was just was pretty much nothing going on compared to other times but this was a bright time in the middle east and in islam and then on the seven hundred i guess islam spread across africa and came into spain and with it. It absorbed a lot of the the. The greatness of of european civilization and indirectly during the dark ages gave it back Correct and the fall of the impact. Spain was the bbc goff's now when we have this morrish invasion this muslim invasion of christian europe there is a united effort on europe to push it back or hey what was that all about. Well they started up practically merely after the Across the entire iberian prince langone into southern france and it took As heavier said the many years entries to get all back. But i had to have that. In those days the arabs there were the more advanced civilisation in the non war time almost eight hundred years. Rick imagine a society lists a big genetic print and at that. Please let me say this. My family name is arabic. Allah ward at any words punish beginning by a l. Okay is arabic and so. He's agriculture construction genetic imprint. That make sense. They got centuries of one society and maybe pushed out by the christian reconquista conquering movement. And of course fourteen. Ninety two a spaniard would not necessarily about columbus. That's the year. They pushed those. Moore's finally back into africa but it left an imprint. So today you know a thousand five hundred years later. What would you see when you go to granada that you think. Oh that is. Thanks to the marsh civilisation. Well number of course and also the neighborhood of albiston uh-huh okay which is basically mainly when you are in. The elvis thing is like you were in. The north of morocco is identical to any let's neighborhood the whitewashed moroccan talent right there in spain in granada and the our community over the is really big. Okay they have several mosques and also a few years ago. They renew old most of the have in a the top of the. That was the first mosque built in europe in five hundred years. The yet right there in granada modern. Musk that well. They re modernized the on the put it. Yeah and it was. Just just beautiful magical. What about the temperament of the people the passion. The cuisine is there any flavor left from all the motions. But not as spicy as that will you know. He decided of the world for use. By being hot. For a spices means herbs more aromatic more than flavoring. Okay have you. When you go to the humber this is where you get a feeling of the magnificence of the. Moore's this was like this must have been the the is the saint peter's there sigh of the morrish world is alhambra. What does it tell us about the palace. Paint a picture and take us through it to granada. He's done in the valley and the alhambra palace is up in the hill as muslim rules. Dictate the the beauties on the inside so outside the alhambra. It's interesting and you see contrast in buildings and materials but it's inside when it blooms when you're ready to see that it's mind blowing. You have different sections the fava which is the old fortress. he have the italy's which is the gardens. And you have the main palace called enough thirty palos and you just walk through one room. One called year one fund and after the older and he's only a glimpse of the magnificence of the old days. If you have some information or a guide they can explain to. This was the throne room right now. You just see the the shell of this throne room but if you can put in the pillows and the music and the aromas and the room in the salt in there or whatever then you get a feel of that you don't challenge So you look at the courtyard of the lions. But how do you see and then and then what was it. The courtyard of the lions. I could say sp cosmic balance it so proportion than so peaceful in their old covert in white marble and what. I found him in the middle and in this hot ever world you have open courtyards within. That's the focus. Socially and a lot of cases six or eight lions something like that different directions and they were all a fountain at one time No they're still fountain actually. It was restored reasonably so nice going back to the beauty and hat. Let me just say behind the l. Hambro we have the highest mountain in the peninsula and the mountain means is known. There's no means water and the alhambra. The diamond the shaping that water. This is travel through exterior. We're talking about granada. We're talking about the moore's we're talking about the great palace the hambro we're joined by harvey minority in rome or hey tell us more when you take a group through the al hamra. What is the highlight for the visitors. Very first thing that you see to get into ambre is panic was billed afterwards when you know. The catholic monarch was the first emperor. So it's going backwards. Instead of chronological is eager impressing chelsea. I trust the of stain v from germany. So it's johnson had two titles. Yeah because that is renaissance death on top of pal and it is beautiful. It's it's around. Wonderful Mathematically correct never used he build it and never came back. That's right that was it. That's odd you get the renaissance masterpiece of which is definitely worth checking out ended. Has a museum there for the artifacts that remained from the own number. But then when you get into this new one to see the quintessence of morrish architecture and you'll go back in time against feel. I'm getting right now. Goosebumps you just go back in time instead this the grand hall of ambassadors and look at the ceiling. What are you gonna see. Oh these handcraft handmade things over there is different titles ceilings in my resembled you like a bolt upside down in other places and then all those descriptions from the koran all over the place is because in the in the muslim faith. You don't have images so you don't have. You don't have a statue a prophet you have a calligraphy version of his name in print and you said that correctly this calligraphy. Although there koren's sentences depends on the calligraphy you can tell where they're from and happens all over the arab lord so all over it is decorated with little phrases fancy writing in arabic calligraphy and that is the art to have the day because you couldn't have images this is travel with. rick steves. Talking with hubby are minority and Aroma in we're talking about the humber. We're talking about granada returning to civilization. Or hey i love standing in the other side of the town across the valley had viewpoint. What is it called. Saint nicholas viewpoint is a nick. Lachey point you also some of the points that is out of the race. The interest but on the opposite side of in the l. be seen the labyrinth by samuel neighborhood. You look over you see the mountains of the sierra nevada that Have you ever talking about you. See the sun setting making the stones of the humbert changes every every other lovers are out. You're standing there in your drink looking at this beautiful setting you hear the music play music musing. Tell the tell us about the music are you will always find some deep seas play music asking for going after that and the gypsy music there under the door of the send. Nick is a lotta light years. Good give him a couple of euros in your. It's a concert with amazing setting but what you said. Gypsies in america gypsy is is like not politically correct. They want to roma. But what is the situation new. Do gypsies call themselves gypsies or he diagnosed it is the word that they will use among themselves and so there's no disrespect. No let's finish just with with one moment that you enjoy as a tour guide when you bring your groups through granada. What is the favorite moment that you look forward to and that resonates with your american visitors of your dinner. In the album seen in front of the alhambra and people do not expect this and carmen. In one of those in one of those cattleman is the the the houses across the country luncheon now engulfed in the city where you have an outdoor dinner with view of the humber. You're describing this and destig- her. Hey my favorite moment is following. We'll have your said because if you do that first and then the ambre you have view from the lumber for where you were before you see. That's where i had dinner. And i've made a memory of for the rest of my life. Oh sometimes she's unnoticed bidder. Being one side. Good both ways travel. With rick steves run. Heavier mentor have to be us. When guides tell us how to maneuver the tourist crowds that are likely to fill the humber. When we're all traveling again in an extra two this week show you can hear it. Rick steves dot com slash radio up next. We'll take you from the peak of mount ararat in turkey to the valleys of the rio. Magdalena in south america. It's travel with rick steves. It may well be the most fabled mountain in the world recant and climbed to the peak of snow. Capped mount arafat with the challenge of getting to the summit. He learned a lot about that complicated corner of the world where turkey armenia end. Iran come together is book about the experience is called full moon over noah's ark. Recanting joins us now on travel with rick steves to tell us what it was like to climb the legendary mountain. That's believed by many to still hold the remains of noah's ark. Rick thanks for being here. Thanks bye-bye so describe just mount arafat. I mean it's such a fabled mountain. It's beautiful. It's a one off the mountain in that it stands at seventeen thousand feet alone even though it's part of other mountains and they sort of appear to the side and in the distance you are irrevocably claimed by the moment you look at it as you sort of. It's almost reaches out and wraps around you for. Aw yeah i can. I can remember driving toward it. And it's just you set your sights on it from hours away and very far away you see it. It is not just a landmark but because of its connotations over the last thousands of years it is in begs you to to question it to question all sorts of the legends or the histories around it as well as the politics in if there was a massive flood and it almost submerged everything on the planet and one thing stuck up over the high waters it could be the summit of mount everest. If you're reading legend or trying to teach a story in there is that story of the great flood and christians would notice the noah's ark story but it's far more than that. Can you give us just a the great flood in this. Noah's ark context for us so i would say two things one hypothesis that i did affirmative research on the bosphorus strait was at one point blocked by land and as the last ice age melted and the world sees rose by three hundred feet it broke through and flooded what was then a freshwater black sea and made it a saltwater which it is today okay so so. People can remember geographically. The the boss is that long skinny channel that connects the mediterranean with the black sea and istanbul straddles. It absolutely is asia and europe. Come together and that used to be a solid land and that could have meant. The salty. mediterranean was higher than the black sea and then as the black sea flooded. It was rising at six today. They say it was like three or four or more niagara falls by the hour so if that happened people were rushing away from it. They were rushing away. In boats they're rushing away with their animals and then for two thousand years there was oral history. now that is one hypothesis but it lends credence to why people felt that something like modern herat on the horizon would have been a refuge where people would have gone so having said that part of it the other. Is that the epic of gilgamesh which was among the first writing to be committed to clay predates the hebrew texas in the christian bible by fifteen hundred years predates the koran which has a noah and you h story in it so the the story of a local flood. Which would have encompassed. It's like living in in any place edmonds or clone a- or paris and never having gone twenty miles either side of where you live if there was a massive flood it would have been the world. Is you know it. So the story took on legend when it was written perhaps based on factual or currencies but when it was written in the hebrew text the name was no which is different than it was in the gilgamesh text. Just to put the chronology straight rick. There was a historic black. Sea fled and your. That's what about five thousand bc or something. It actually could have been around and the last ice age which would have been about ten thousand years ten thousand years bc. What do we have as far as evidence of anything like that. Is there great. Curiosity of finding like like a lot of people are looking for the the holy grail and so on. So there's a lot of curiosity around the possibility of there being remnants or something leftover from a wooden ship all these years later which is hugely unlikely that there would be there but what happens is that periodically every few years. Something pops up where someone claims to have found something. So like any other historic artifacts. There's a mix of true believers and of charlatans and there are people who have misused that and orchestrated it for attention fundraising whatever. There's never been anything that has been found and proven by independent third parties to be scientifically anything related to the never so really what we have. In the way of artifacts are ancient accounts of a fled that may have been a legend or of twisted story over many generations and so on or or a a story about something that actually happened not worldwide but in a local your local wards worldwide. While said that the other thing is that. It's like if i said something to you and you said it to a friend and they said we went around the room you know. It's never the same story by the end so it gets distorted. And that's fair. This travel with rick steves. Were talking with rick antonsson. He's the author of a book called four moon over noah's ark and expert telling us about his adventure to the summit of mount era in eastern turkey and the middle of lambs that seem to be perpetually in conflict rix written other travel memoirs. He's written a book called walking with ghosts in papua new guinea. He's written a book about route. Sixty six his website is rick. Antonsson dot com ric. It's fascinating to me. How much. Eric has this mystique. And and part of it must be because of its location in this troubled complicated part of the world. Hundreds that impact to the people like you who wanted to climb to the top of it. Well today i couldn't climb to the top of matia rod and there have been other portions of history decades at a time where it was not allowed because of the political gyrations that were going on and right now because of the crazy situation because it's kurdish territory. Government will not permit strike. We had to wait a couple of months to get a permit to go. We needed a professional guide. It's a demanding hike but it's not mountaineering in the sense of pickaxes climbing up. But you can't do that today. It's seventeen thousand feet to this idea. So that's very high. It's a lot of work and it's difficult finding air. Yeah but the hardest thing might be just getting permission and clearing all the red tape outboard well and we were on the mountain. We trekked with a group of armenians who were climbing at the same time. But not with us and you could sense the tension between them and the kurdish turkish people that were assisting them so that politics is very real so erratic. Today is in the country of turkey but tore means it's their stolen symbol of nationhood. They think it should be part of armenia. The kurds who want their own territory their own country which they don't have actually think that it should be part of a kurdistan which it's not so it has been controversial for a long time as to who's custodianship is it within when the soviet union existed in armenia as part of that the russian bear rob its arms around the mountain and called it. There's rick antonsson is the author of full moon over noah's ark odyssey to mount arafat and beyond he posts to twitter at inc roads. Rick you can hear his earlier travel. With rick steves interview about his grueling hike across a historic trail in papua new guinea. We linked to it in our show. Archives at rick steves dot com slash radio. Peter in chino. California is on the line to talk with rick anthony. Our number is eight. Seven seven three three seven four to five. Hey peter rick my my question is for you I was just listening to what you were saying about. How amount auto dot is such a potent symbol for the armenians and the turks and the kurds and the various ethnic people who live in the region. And as you alluded to and i as an armenian american you know mount on for myself and my ancestors has always represented home. I mean that's what the diaspora always looks to Aside from that my my question is when you were climbing the peak or when you were preparing to climb the peak or after you climbed it. How did the interactions of the various groups. Like the armenians and the turks and the kurds that you came into contact with Relate to the peak and to each other. And i i guess what i'm asking is. Was there more of a of a kind of shared identity that they all look at this peak together and it's something that binds them or do they see it more Fractious lee where it's they want it for themselves like your use of the word fractious lee because that captures it. There's not much shared understanding. If there's there's this is ours it was yours. it's now blocked off between turkey and armenia. I maybe should begin by saying that. I was somewhat embarrassed by how little i knew about the armenian genocide until i was researching this trip and then on the journey and then traveling with and you could sense up. Palpable tension between the kurdish turks. That were not friends with armenians but there they're climbing the armenians who look out from your event and an here is mount. Arafat had actually travel through another country in down and it was an extra days travel. They paid more to be on the mountain than i did as a canadian for my permit. There's lots of discrimination. And my both have because the turks are in control of who are the gatekeepers to the mountain at the turks are the gatekeepers. That's the term. And they don't necessarily want their mediums there and you know the means used to be armenian people a big part of the turkish population. Of course. there's i don't know seventy million turks or something like that and Turkey loves the thought of turkish armenians and turkish kurds and we can all live together. But it is on turkey's terms and the kurds and the armenians probably have something in common that corner of the world. Your neighbors neighbors your enemy. Hey peter when you think about the historic armenia. I know from my travels in eastern turkey. There's a lot of armenians sites most of them depopulated. And just you know ancient historic sites that you go through like like it's dead. And that's a souvenir of genocide in a way and there is a country. Armenia to the north but mount arafat is embedded in turkey. If you look at the historic armenia does erat kind of stand in the middle of that like presiding over the country is is it that integral to what armenia is historically if you get rid of the difficult modern history between turkey and armenia absolutely in fact before nineteen fifteen and the genocide Armenia at one point the kingdom of armenia at one point stretched all the way to what is now syria lebanon and the eastern mediterranean. And did envelope is probably the the eastern half of what is now turkey and so on. I would have been really kind of bulls eye center of of ancient armenia. And so it is. Yeah it is even more parliament even more poignant and became i think even more poignant after the genocide after you know land was taken away in the villages were destroyed. And when i would say anybody. Who's venturing into eastern turkey if you're going that far to remember menas wide open for tourism and it would give you a wonderful sort of Balance of your experience and when you're in eastern turkey you'll find all sorts of sites that are very important to the armenian culture that are there today protected as you know historic sites but very sad and tragic from an armenian point of view. Peter thanks for your call. I know this is traveled. Frick steve's talking with rick anthem sent his book is four moon over noah's ark. Rick we've just got a few minutes left. And i like to talk about the hike itself Seventeen thousand feet. I mean i live in the shadow of mount rainier and this is thousands of feet taller than mount ranier. You need a helmet. You need probably need a guide and some gear. Maybe you'll feel really the thin oxygen when you get up to the top of that. What was it just like climbing. Mount arafat will the the first two days were making our way first of all to base camp and they had the camp to it's climbing. It's a steep hike and so you need to be in shape for that and anytime you can get a meal or sustenance you just you absorb it. You just can't wait to get any new sleep wonderfully and we actually had built in an extra day because they said you might want to go from base camp to camp to and back down to help acclimatize because of the altitude when we got to cap to. We were kind of fired up. There was five of us. We had a guide you you need a guide to be on the mountain and we said should we go tonight and the whole goal for me was to climb under a full moon and clouds and i met a russian group. They'd come down. They took me into their campsite me. This black russian tea and one of them spoke english and talk to me about having made the ascent but he wouldn't tell me how good it felt because he said when you go up it's got to be just your experience wonderful. There's a group maybe about eight or ten of them and they sang songs and talked me but when we went up that last bit. It's you know it's an several thousand feet in elevation gain many hours. And then you get to the snow from the exactly from from what we call camp to and you're wearing crampons and you're stepping slowly and you twenty paces you stop to catch your breath. The last sort of our is really steep. And you know the difference between seeing tomorrow. Nazi tomorrow is falling off a mountain. And you're very much aware that you could start to slide. It was slipped so there was some treachery. There was zero element of of danger. No there is a swiss group that was on the mountain at the same time and they roped up and i think they were more experienced. Perhaps a bit more aware we were from all over the world. The five of us and didn't have that that unity that came to the squares looks kind of like a mount fuji. Sort of gen. I mean nothing not too little the heck seventeen thousand feet of seventeen thousand feet but it looks like you could hike up from any number of angles where there people winding their way up the mountain from all sides or is there like a one little entry point that the turks monitor and then everybody goes up prescribed route. You've hit it. We went from the south side. There have been a sense in the past from the north side there so the armenian looking on that which is a magnificent view so we went up from the south side. Bit more gentle but there is one way to get to the time when you're on the peak you're going to be there maybe for five or ten minutes and then you're going to want to be short. The winds are howling. When you stand on the top you actually. You're looking over iran. And you're seen armenia to your north. End your turkey. So that's kind of awesome. Iraq isn't too far to the south. But you can't actually see it. But you're there at the winds that elements are wrecking havoc with you. And you're exposed. Because we're westerners were trying to take photographs. You'd get your hands bear and there's no there's no toilet there's there's nothing on the top and then got an safely off which own challenge but you've also got the inara. Did you feel lightheaded. I felt a little lightheaded. I write about an occurrence that i realize now isn't unique to me but was startling. And that's when we were coming down my vision blurred and i've got twenty twenty vision. I've i've been blessed with good vision all my life and i couldn't distinguish shapes two of my fellow trekkers tell a little bit because one was dressed in a red outfit and one in a white and black outfit but it worried me. I had to stay close to them all my way down. And that's a result of altuve because you're eyes aren't getting the oxygen that they need to but there are other times when you're just wondering what am i doing here. And where's the next gulp of arrogant. Come from and you would go several paces and then stop so your body could regroup and give you the confidence to fall on rick one more time just to wrap it up. You've dreamed about this. He spent so much energy getting there. You've learned so much what goes through your mind. What did you think on the top about era. There's a sense of. I made it because other than my wife and two sons all. I'd said anyone anyone was. I was going to go on a walkabout on mount a-rod i didn't want to say out loud. I joined an expedition to the summit. I didn't want to jinx it by trying to foreshadow so that sense of oh my goodness here. I am on top of the world like nothing. Nothing replaces that sense of accomplishment. And the who am i to have such a wonderful emotion and the the great good fortune of being on top of mount arafat. And then you give yourself a big high five and you realize i'm cold. I can hardly breathe. And i go down. Get down get down. Rick antonsson thank you so much again book you all moon over noah's ark. Thanks for writing that in sharing. Thank you very much for having and adventure done the rio. Magdalena the river that made columbia possible. That's next on travel with rick. Steves khruschev hess at native land. And christ met. rick steves. that means i am push. If i'm has from the netherlands and i'm traveling. With rick steves admin khruschev s out nadella and he grabs. Rick steves think of a river in south america and you'll probably picture the mighty amazon or the mess of real plot when his aries but enter apologised davis who's had a nearly lifelong relationship with the country of colombia thinks of another river in his book. Magdalene river of dreams. He explores how the nation revolves around that river from its source in the rugged mountains of the south all the way to its end in the mysterious wetlands. That empty into the caribbean wade joins us now. On travel with rick steves from his home near vancouver british columbia to tell us about his lifelong relationship with the country of colombia and his many adventures along the real magdalene he weighed. Thanks for having me. Yeah you know. There are so many countries to love in south america. But i find. There's something about colombia that people just have an affinity for my my son fell in love with colombian. He lives there now and he's traveled all over the world and clearly. You love columbia. What distinguishes columbia from any other country in in the continent. It's a really good question because you know if you ask yourself or you ask people in what you love clube. We can't say there's a much. Pete shoe you can't say that there's a an anchor. What or it's something about the overall essence of the people. It's sort of the place of quotas. Kadena were magic happens every day. You know. I always say that people say that Columbia's gift to latin american literature was magical realism. But the truth is that governor garcia marquez was of practicing journalists all of his life was an observer who wrote about what he saw but he just happened to live in a land where heaven and earth converge on a regular basis to reveal glimpses of the divine minnesota most biologically diverse and geographically diverse and in many ways typographically diverse nation on earth. You know you have the rugged not of mountains. E see so colombiano at the south of the country which flow so many great rivers the put the calcutta great amazonian rivers and the bettiah that's flows the other way into the pacific. The calcutta the great arm. The magdalena mother magdalena coming out of the mountains and beginning this twelve hundred mile. Run to the sea and in many ways. Magdalena is the mississippi. It's cousin to the north in the sense that it's a quarter of course and also a fountain of culture the sort of the repository of colombian of literature poetry music and prayer. But it's very much a country that made clear possible because of the unique geography of the place that people will say that columbia itself is a nation was a gift of the rio magdalena and when my son talks about colombia he almost speaks of Topographical lines Referencing the people in the culture. You've got the sea level culture and he got the middle zone and then the highs zone and and that would sort of be tracked by the river itself going from its source down to the to the fee but you do have a dramatic difference in just the personality of the people and the personality of the culture as you gain or lose altitude well. It's incredibly diverse country. There's no place in colombia. More than a day removed from every known ecological niche to be found on the planet. And so you have sort of five major regions. The vast amazonian forests that are loan the size of france in the great plains janos at runaway toward and then the main and the inquiry etta these three arms of the code etta that come out of the colombian so and thence run away to the caribbean coastal plain where it falls away into this vast ramirez Lower end of of cnn and wetlands assize of the sky is a world of water an amphibious life and then on the western coast. Of course you have the great low enforce of the choko the pacific force that were cut off from the amazon by the rise of the andean. Cody etta and of course. The the plants of species in so many interesting ways and again it's also located in the northwest corner of south america. So you have. All the andean influences all the caribbean influences all the central american influences in all all of the amazonian influences sort of coming together in this great clash of life. And i think it's important because of the drug wars and because of the The conflict foreigners of often come to see colombia's sort of place mired in darkness and nothing could be further from the truth. And i think it's important for all of us to remember that during all these years of conflict Fifty years of violence. There were never more than two hundred thousand combatants. In a nation of fifty million so the vast majority of colombians were innocent victims caught in the vice of of war and yet despite all of that two hundred twenty thousand dead seven million internally displaced the country has maintained civil society and democracy greened its cities created millions of acres of national parks. Assistant was already the jewel of south america and sought restitution with indigenous people. Think especially rick for the american audience. People have to remember that the wars of columbia would not have lasted a week without the consumption of cocaine in places like the united states and europe. Wade davis is our guest from his home studio and bowen island. Dc wade teaches anthropology at the university of british columbia and is the author of more than twenty books. He writes about his love of columbia and the river that defines the country in his book called. Magdalena river of dreams. We'd tells us more about the misconceptions of the rebels and their roots and columbia in an extra to today's show. You can hear that. Rick steves dot com slash radio. You know wait. I've i've read books to different countries. And i'm always nervous when people from that country. Read the book because they would be much more intimately connected with their country than what. I'm trying to report on. I'm so impressed by the just basically the embrace of your book magdalena by people who really are cultural icons in colombia the president of the country leading journalists. Saying you know if you really want to understand columbia. Read this book. You've got to be an honorary citizen of columbia couple of years ago. How does somebody just in general. How do you get to know a country. So well that the local creative forces in that country celebrate you. What what what is the getting to know a country wherever you travel you know. Part of all travelers become enchanted with the first country that captures their hearts and gives them license to be free and and for me. It was colombian and the strange affair. The love of the boy for our country. It's people began very innocently. When i was fourteen years old in nineteen sixty eight when my mother told me in canada that spanish was lagged. The future and she worked all year As a secretary in elementary school to allow me to join a small group of school boys at a teacher was taking to columbia and at the time when most canadians and americans had never been in a plane. That south american destination was terribly exotic. And i was very fortunate. I was the youngest of the group at fourteen by two years and i was not within affluent families in the where the kids spend sweltering the streets of cali but with a more modest family in the mountains above the city and it was a classic colombian seen children too. Numerous to keep track of indulgent father. A grandmother who muttered herself in porch overlooking flowers and fruit trees sister who more than once carried her brother in may home half drunk to a a mother kind beyond words would stand at the front steps. A tap your foot on the stones. She feigned anger. You know a lot of the other lads suffered from the columbia's communities or home-sickness and i by contrast felt like i had finally sound home and i related. You finally found home in a country. That wasn't your country. Yeah definitely how does that like. What do you mean you know. I kind of grew up in columbia. And i speak spanish like a From the streets of columbia think of the psychological impact of rick of being a pariah nation. You know the the former ambassador to washington caroliina article former external affairs minister daughter. President famously was strip searched dulles airport simply because he had a colombian passport and when she you know resisted an offer diplomatic credentials. She was dismissed with an obscenity from the agent barked as if from the mouth of the dog will. That's what happens to the representative of the country in dc can imagine how young people Feel and one river came along as does magdalena and just holds mirror to all that is good in the country. it doesn't shy away from the violence on the contrary but it explains it with empathy and understanding and in that sense the reason president santos both made me a a citizen which was very rare action columbia and also on his own tweeted out. Here's a nobel laureate for peace. Every colombian must read this book. Because i think he sees that. The book can play a role in a precarious peace process. If only by you. The biggest enemy of pieces pessimism negatively the loss of hope and the book by showing all that is brilliant and beautiful about climate and the people in a way becomes an antidote to despair. And i think that's why the colombians have embraced with. Steve's joined by wade davis. He teaches anthropology. At university. Of british columbia in vancouver. He's written about twenty books books on topics from the amazon colorado rivers to haitian voodoo the british expeditions on mount everest. This latest title explores how great magdalena river helps to define today's nation of colombia. It's called magdalena river of dreams. His website is davis. Wade dot com. So wait your book. Sort of let the magdalena of columbia in so many ways. We've let's just take a quick trip through the country along the real magdalena from the top to the bottom. The magdalena's is born the must. See so colombiana this rugged mountains and it's really incredible you cross over these great potter malls which is this. Unique formation of it feels almost like a moorland. scotland grafted onto the back of the andes. And as you drop out of there. There's literally a place where you can reach down with one hand and touch the birth of the Audience which runs up the east of the country all the way to the venezuelan border and then reach the left and you're testing the accordion throw which storms up the middle of the country until fall away in the caribbean coastal plain. The country's here you're coming out of this amazing amount mess in elephant fairy tale land of walking along then kick road of ancient stones at falls away like mercury into the cloud forest and you can really reach down and touch the origin of a great nation. Wait i'd like take really get the kind of traveler. Goes to columbia. There's cartagena there's bogota there's Those seem to be the the big three attractions from a urban point of view and each one is distinct. You could go to those three cities and feel like you're in three different countries. How would you characterize the cultural experience in those three. Great cities of colombia well. Carter-han of course was repository of gold. It was a transshipment point for all the wealth of the indies coming across the isthmus of panama. So it's got great colonial architecture. It's a city of the coast it's All the color wonder of the coast and of course bogota the national capital ten thousand feet cold misty with shimmering mountains scoring the skyline and verdant fields of o of a kind of an upland volcanic paradise and then midein nestle down in the verdant hills of antioquia city of eternal spring as they say the sort of the perfect climate of south america but there are other cities Money you know i. I think it's really the geographical features. I mean the fact that the amazon of clube is the size of france and unlike that of ecuador where comic ramize fifty years ago by oil development and deforestation because of the war of vast areas of columbia were off limits to industrial development. Which is the great hope of the nation because the nation now can make decisions based on fifty years of science and Understanding it wasn't available fifty years ago so the amazon of the columbia. The most beautiful section of the whole amazon basin is the size of france. soaring out of the caribbean coastal plain east of cut. The hanna is highest coastal mountain range on earth. The sierra nevada they monitor which source to twenty thousand feet and is still homeland to the descendants of the sun. Priests of the tirana. The mamas of the ottawa. Khoza corgis we who to this day are ruled by a ritual. Priesthood who in a blood-stained continent were never vanquished by the spanish and they they maintain that their prayers and rituals literally a maintain the cosmic balance of of the world. Or you can go to the force of the darien and all the lost islands of approaching panama all the way down the pacific coast of the endless beaches or again into the young knows where the grasslands go to the horizon. And all of this reflected in music columbia's said to be the land of a thousand rhythms ethnomusicologist have in fact identified thousand twenty five and the fountain of music. The mother of all music is mbia. But the mother of colombia's a real can be a little bit of insight into how we might travel and enjoy the people so charmed deal. Well i think that's what we do is travelers wherever you go. You know when you're trying to break down that barrier that exist between yourself as an outsider. I mean people. With whom you seek to live as a guest it's always a empathy in love openness willingness to sleep where you're asked to sleep eat what's in front of you self deprecating humor. I mean the way. This book came about was sorta. Sociology is serendipity. I would just turn up In our community and hang out until i found someone who had something to say that the world needed to hear and that is anyway said was the essence of good. Storytelling i i. I think the most important thing is to travel without fear. I mean my experience of so many travelers in that kind of cross cultural moment. Wherever that is rick they they get stiff and frightened and fearful and it just seems odd to me But i've been traveling. I was fourteen. So i have a wherever i am in around the world. I consider slip into the moment. And that's really what it's all about in columbia. There's a million ways know riverfront fishermen or or a coffee plantation or were offering to help compassi no do their daily chores. I know the whole thing. Is that travelers. Don't know where you're going tourist can't remember where there been and so what you wanna do is just you know. Be like the sage own eyes wide open to wonder and open anything. I mean when. I when i i was a kid in columbia sundays for example rick which is a day of families. The past ceos. Everybody's on the move having wonderful barbecues and everything. I would put on my fancies close which weren't very fancy. Trust me and i would just spend my compass decide what direction to walk in. And i would just walk in that direction for six hours to see what happened. This is travel with rick. Steves the first foreign country wade davis ever traveled to colombia and it continues to hold a special place for him. He travelled the length of columbia and the magdalena river and explores how the river makes that country one of latin america's most diverse. That's all in his book. Magdalena river of dreams. We have links to his website and his books with this week. Show at rick steves dot com slash radio. I was just in medigene. Last christmas and the light festivals everybody was out and it was such a graceful sweet. It was an adorable seen with families. Multi generations celebrating a simple thing of just a riverside lined with lights like one big long. The word for colombia's cutting yo. You know. it's funny. My friends sander. Who a big part of writing Working on the book with me major character in the book She she always says. I sort would've make up poetic phrases in spanish. People really appreciate but one of those columbia buys day. Kaladze carino those. I was not a country of violence in war on drugs as a place of of colors. Love of and that's what it is. I mean it's a warmth of the people that just envelops. A young travel like a protective cloak taylor mandate i. It's just a shame that so many people still think that there's a danger element because of its image from the drug cartel past which is so long now and you just gotta remember it. It's a fascinating country and it's if if you don't get out and visit countries in person you there's no way you can appreciate the complexity of the the we've of the nature and the culture and the history in the love. I think clearly comes in your passion for columbia and in your book. Magdalena river of dreams. Wade davis thanks so much for joining us in sharing your appreciation of and love for columbia. Thanks rick much travel with rick. Steves produce that. Rick steve europe in edmonds washington by tim tap hall. Mahal donna bardsley get websites support from american nicole. Affiliates support from sheila guzzo theme. Music is by jerry. Frank you can find out more about. Our guests searched the show archives. And listen again anytime you look on our website. Rick steves dot com slash. Radio will look for you again next week with more travel with rick steves. Hey i'm rick steves in my latest book for the love of europe. 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MC Escher and His Trippy Art

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MC Escher and His Trippy Art

"Welcome to step. You should know a production of iheartradio's how stuff works. Hey and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark Charles W Chuck Bryant and there's Jerry over there and this is stuff you should know the arts see addition and Jerry Room Tone Roland. Yeah I think it's make believe stuff room tone. Yes she must be. LemMe capture few fairies in this Mason Jar. I think it's the same thing we may need those in the final at it. I don't know what it is about to explain to everyone. Room tone is You did this on film sets and in studios where you just make everyone sit completely silently. You captured the sound of the room so I guess you can. What do you do with that? Jd Layer it in in case you need it or something. Did you hear that everyone. She said she cleans of the background to everybody listening. It sounded like there's something about it though. It's like being in church getting the giggles. It's really hard. Especially on the film seven there's like fifty people standing around being completely silent I- farting writing. I suspect it's strictly a power trip. He thinks that's what I think. I'm going to start doing that. My house when things get out of hand room tone anything that it works to make me bust out the room tone you well no no I was GONNA say we're talking about room tone. Obviously the topic. Today's I am C. Escher who was well known for going Berserk anytime. Someone asked him to be quiet for room tone trash chairs grab reptile reptile straight out of the two dimensions and throw them into the third dimension to steal sorts of weird stuff. It's funny did you think that was a joke just for you. Yes so he the Everyone knows MCSE or if you've ever been to college or taking drugs or sold drugs to somebody in college. Then you've probably seen hands drawing hands or I mean that's not what the name of that one was. It's called drawing hands or The some of his more famous ones ones are the these impossible rooms like stairs that lead to sideways stairs. But you got to wrap your head around it in a certain way it even make sense of it all right right or stairs that lead into other series that back into the other stairs sure this constant or A. I'm a big fan of that. One self portrait. He did in the with the sphere. Yeah they're the the mirror sphere near sphere. It's cool it is very cool. I'm not crazy about the face. Even though I'm sure he did it exactly precise but the hand if you look at the hand it's really realistic. It's very pretty. Yeah I mean I'd like this stuff this is not my style is in anything. I would put my walls these days but I still. I still think he's one of the like coolest more innovative artists out there. Yeah and there's a great factoid that I hope will hold till the end which at the end but kind of where it falls in our outline what is factory. Megan's I mean you've killed ten percent of all the facts that's right and this is just one of the ten percent it remained. That's right okay. Gotcha so one of the things that I found was that if you were impressed by his work Prepare to get exponentially more impressive. We talk about how he made those work. That's the fact of the show for me okay. That's the factoid. You gotTa hold onto sure. Sure sure sure I was just a little bit. I didn't know what you're talking about although I should've guessed so This is talking about an artist which means that we should probably talk about the artists being born And in the case of MC Esser whose name by the way was More it's Cornelius I want to say Cornelius. But there's no you in there I think Cornell's sure Asher nailed the listener. Try but I spoke on name. Say nerve nailed the last. This is the point where the people say. Get to the point already. Well we are at that point. That's M. C. and then as you're born June seventeenth Eighteen ninety eight not nineteen eighty-nine as as the grab stir. Put it man. He's like he was. He was born in Lieu Arden Netherlands. grew up in Arnhem mm-hmm which is about sixty miles southeast of Amsterdam. Is that right. Yeah Okay I mapped all this stuff out nice song come. In that general area you went on a little Google autour sure And he signed even from early on As MC E. He signed his paintings. Although people called him Mark M. A.. UK Okay friends and family right which the meaning thing Ed points out. But it's just like you know an affectionate term for Maurits. Yeah is it Maurice. Probably Marines marites Cornelisz Escher. But it could also go the way of Morris so is it more. It's more no. I wish I wish I knew well what we do know. Is that In this we should put a pin in because it sort of plays a big part in how he pursued his art but His Dad had some money money. He was a rich kid. Yeah for sure which really helps as we'll see as he's traipsing around Europe on Dad's dime slowly getting better header at arts early. Yeah that's a good point because he Was Not great in school. He did love jarring class. But apparently wasn't you know he didn't have his second grade teachers falling over themselves. About what a talented artist. He was no and apparently he also didn't consider himself much of an artist although he engaged engaged in art like he he did produce art from a very young age. He was terrible in school except math and drawing apparently when he I was in grade school primary school he failed his finals. All of them except for math and I read that his father noted in his journal with some affection that his son consoled himself by producing a linear type of a sunflower. That's how he made himself feel better after after failing out of school well and he he was somewhat adept at math. Early on but It's interesting his. His work is highly mathematical. As far as art goes but later later on in life when he was confronted with real mathematicians he would sort of be like Nah not me man can like. I'm an artist. Well that kind of mathematician. So yes but he was most of his friends were mathematician. Yeah for most of his career. He was mostly appreciated by mathematicians and scientists. Those are the people who really vibe vibe done. His work and drugs they came later. Okay they came in and got real popular but I saw somebody made a movie called Journey rainy into infinity. The documentary fulling documentary. I believe the whole things on Youtube And it starts. The trailer starts out with Graham. Nash saying saying Hey I I called up MC one day just to say Mr Ascher. I think you're a really great artists. That's all I wanted you to say. And he said I don't consider myself an artist I consider myself a mathematician. Oh really yes so. I'm going with Graham. NASHES interpretation skelter to this spoke to him directly. Yeah yeah I mean it's crazy he I mean not to spoil anything but he died in one thousand nine hundred ninety two. Just seventy three so you now now if you were to live to his like mid eighties which is somewhat reasonable He he would have been like a live in the eighties which just seems so weird. It does seem kind of weird. Yeah because he was he seems counter cultural for sure even though his him his personality was not very counter cultural now and he didn't really they have much love for hippies. In fact he later said that. The hippies in San Francisco illegally making copies of my work right He he didn't exactly actually follow. You know the the normal usual beat throughout his lifetime and he was he's he was a mathematician. He was a bit of a square but he was also a very imaginative square. That's right trying to make good square joke but it's not coming to me. Remember that show square pigs pigs square. Yeah Square Peg Sarah Jessica. Parker was she in that she's also in girls. Just WanNa have fun. Yeah and I'm going to see her Broadway. The next spring really she and her husband are co-starring in plaza suite. Neil Simon's plaza suite. Nice very excited about that but I'm trying to align it with the Bonnie Prince Billy show but they're like a week apart and I'm like I can't just stay in the yard to kill especially when there's hourly flights between Atlanta and New York I know I may discuss e Bonnie Prince Billy and come home because he didn't play much but that's a story for another day All right so he goes to school school at Technical College of Dealth Not for very long. And then he went to the Harlem with two as school of architecture and decorative the arts which is west of Amsterdam Not Harlem New York. Well I think that's what the Harlem New York named after right. Yeah that's where Bonnie Prince Alwaleed. He's a town hall. Actually Oh is that right. Yeah we played there. It's right there. Stink on that joint so His Dad said you know because you know his dad had a lot of money and made money honey and even though you want to support your kids you want the time Echem into something. Sure if you're that kind of dude that might be lucrative so he said hey you like to draw shapes. Why don't you go study architecture? And he did that for a little while even though he wasn't super into it but while at school there he had a very fortunate. Fortunate Meeting By being mentored by one Samuel. Just Surin debt mosquito Who'd be mentor? Who noticed some of his early art? I'm not sure how he saw it but he took one look at issues art and said he don't need to go into architecture. Come study under me. Learn graphic design and so sure did he became a graphic designer which he whether he knew it or not he had been his whole life up to that point. All of his work is very graphic in nature nature and designing. Yeah it really really is. But I'm sure his dad in the early you know nineteen twenty s was probably like is that even thing right. That sounds made. Yeah well his dad. Also I don't know if you saw it or not was a civil engineer so of course you would be like you draw. Just go do architecture right. That's what I know civil engineering. And there's architects in the world. Just go to the other thing that I do and he probably thought graphic design just meant like you're gonNA make signs right or post stamps or Christmas paper which he did later on. That's right tell you made a little bit of dough so In the Early Nineteen Twenty S. He started on his sort of rich kid journey travelling around in Europe On his dad's time on a gap year. That was really really long very long. But on one of these trips he went to a couple of places that would end yup having a big influence on him. Yeah one in Spain at the L. Hambro And then just travelling through southern Italy through the countryside gay just fell in love with totally. Yeah but in Spain this is this is one that didn't bear fruit right away. But he was really fascinated by these mosaics and Tesla relations uh-huh which are described as. Okay they are repeating designs that interlock with one another leave no space between one another and that when you fit them together they fully cover a plane. which is trump harder to do than you would think? Yeah like if you've ever seen the Esser Fish Sort of the white fish in the blackfish kind of working in one another. Yeah that's a perfect example. And he would do this a lot later on. If you've ever played Q-bert that's those cubes are sure A certain kind. Yeah but He got really into this. Even though it wasn't don't like right away that he started doing these things that sort of came a little bit later but what he did do was started drawing the Italian countryside because he loved it loved it. I mean I mean he. He went to Italy. It was like this is my home. Yeah and he. He was quoted at one point in time of saying like he never wanted to become an Italian among Italians. Yeah he liked being a stranger but he loved Italy which is interesting thing to say. I'm not exactly sure what it means. I think what he was saying was he's he. He likes like speaking a visitor to Italy. Rather than there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with being one of us you know what I mean whereas if you can we like that guy over there who will accept them. We're not gonNA throw rocks or every time we see him or anything like that and we'll take his money and maybe even say hi to them or whatever. Leave them alone. We won't include him in our expectations of what it means to be a local GOTCHA. That's what I think he's after a clearly. I can identify with that Well that kind of came through in his work too because if you'll notice even in these Before he started doing the like trippy three-dimensional hands drawing hands and stuff. When he was doing countryside's besides he didn't do a lot of people didn't do a lot of faces people were very much in the background? In nondescript Even when you look at these when you say Italian still licensee of countryside's what came to mind for me. Were these beautiful lush colorful recreations of countryside. Nope nope when you look at these. They've they've still look very much like in the MCS her style that we all know. Yeah like very clearly a lot of to their cool. Yeah they're beautiful they're black and white and then shades of gray ray which is all just shading right But they are beautiful in their way. Lovely even I like this stuff more than the trippie stuff. Oh Yeah Yeah I mean this is something I would put my wall all. You're an art SNOB. You're like oh I only like early Italian landscapes. Oh man take that should be SOA shamed no. I think it's great chuck. You have totally right But they are gorgeous and then in nineteen twenty-three. He met his wife his name was Jetta Jetta. That's right very nice. Thank you She was sworn from the they met her in Italy but she was Swiss Swiss and She went home and they sent a bunch of love letters. Very sweet story. I'm sure. MCI movie would be pretty cool. I it somebody wrote a script. They wrote a dissertation about the process of writing a script about emcee Esher from University of Texas in two thousand seventeen. I can't remember the name. Aim of it but just look up. Just some random stuff comes up if you look up mosquito blueprint which will come up late right but if you search which then on Google it brings up. Have you ever done that. Have you ever been like. I'm bored. I WANNA see weird stuff I can unlock from Google and it takes a certain amount of skill because Google wants to give you exactly what you're looking for. It doesn't want to give you just randomness trick it. So maybe you'll you'll type in a weird word word or the first three letters of a word or something like that and weird stuff will start to come. Well if you type in mosquito boot print probably only like the first three of them pertain into MCSE and the rest are just a random assortment of links. I remember early in the days of Google We had a mutual friend into they did this. What I thought was very dumb game where they would try and find two words together that they would try and produce the fewest amount of Google results? Oh Yeah and whoever we could put two words together the the first one yeah and if you remember them doing that number you talking waste of time but I remember. There's some guy did did like a Ted talk about that. Yeah well maybe I'm the dummy no no no it was man I mean look at me like MCS early work. I think that's it's awesome. I mean what tastes. Yeah you know. So he meets gets married She returns to Italy and they married in nineteen twenty four. Not Mean Judy. That's right She would become Jeddah. Asher Jeddah you McKay Asher and they had a son named Giorgio later had sons Arthur Arthur and yawn and They were still just sort of traveling and his dad was even though he was married. His Dad was still footing. The bill assures there's Dad mcevers father. Yeah Yeah Yeah which I was thinking about it. I was like Gosh Benefactor. Wake up every day and look at yourself in the mirror but but if you're looking in the mirror sphere how do you how do you draw. Yeah so amazingly the the Father Esther's father through though unlike what better way to spend your money than to just be like this is what you WanNa do with your life son. You WanNa pursue art and live and beautiful Italy than like here. This is what I want for for you down. That's awesome. That's the pinnacle of apparent can do for their child and and a lot of ways. No totally I felt like. Hey why don't you go. Oh you know take up heroin. And here's a bunch of money for you to like lay around into Beatha true. I I WANNA know more. Hope I'm not coming crosses cynical but I wonder if some of this was like he'll come around if I you know to architecture whatever you kept waiting for the part whereas cut them off. I was his father. Apparently apparently wouldn't like that. All right I know how you. I'm not trying to talk you into my way of thinking. I don't think I started out thinking the same way you did and then something happened. I was like I. It was actually really need of his day. It was it all seems about board. Yeah so world. War Two has a profound effect on shirt and his work Nineteen thirty five. He learned that they were Making his nine year old son Giorgio Margin Fascist youth parades and he said. Pack your bags. We're going to Switzerland zero. And that is the appropriate response to that news. Yeah we're getting out of here. Marching for Mussalini Joe Joe Rabbit yet. No is it good. Is it as good as it looks. Great oh I can't wait. It's great everything is create. Do I need to see in theater. It doesn't seem like I mean you know it's always fun into laugh with a big group of people although by now it's probably thinned out yeah And I was laughing. A lot and people weren't laughing. I like one of those deals. Yeah I mean it's a movie we about kid having Hitler as an imaginary friend. So don't tell me that I didn't know I had no idea on the poster. I know but I didn't know he was an imaginary front. I'll get out of my brain. Sorry that really doesn't spoil anything okay. He's like don't tell me any big reveal So they go to Switzerland all apologies at all. It's really not a big spoiler now. No of course not K- They go to Switzerland and he even though he did not like doc the mountains. He didn't like the snow did not like cold weather So they moved to Belgium after a couple of years which is just beautiful. Compared to Switzerland Belgium's Nice Scher in the nineteen in May of nineteen forty though the Nazis invaded Belgium and so they moved to the Netherlands in nineteen forty one. We're the Nazis already were. Yeah I occupy it again. Well it's home right And they settled in barn learn which is about twenty three miles southeast of Amsterdam. I don't know if that's how you're supposed to say it. Be a a a a are uh-huh Baron. Oh yeah bet you just nailed it. I think so duchess very strange. which but it's not strange but just for my English dumb English years? Supposedly English is the strangest of all. Yeah I'm sure it's just a hybrid mongrel language. That doesn't make any sense to anyone who's not a native native speaker of it. You know what is an interesting language. Is Welsh Because I'm watching the crown and When Prince Charles starts coming around Prince of Wales? There's there's people speaking Welsh and I I was very ignorant about even knowing that what it sounds like what it sounds like and that it was still spoken and It was very odd hybrid brid. It sounded like of several different things. It's all old Celtic stuff. Yeah unusual gallic Golic. Yeah I think it's Golic. Let's say language group one of due to everything I know about Welsh learned from super furry animals. Oh Yeah because that guy's Welsh man. I saw them blood granddaddy off the stage one time. Oh you saw him live Oh I think he told me that melted my brain so good. I'll bet so. They're traveling around still even though they're settled in baron and they go back to Al Hamra in Spain. which aren't we said what that is? No IT'S A it's a thirteenth century. Morrish Castle Moore's concord Spain's stains beautiful. It is very beautiful and they built it in the more style and then it was eventually taken over by the Christian royalty that that explored the new the world and all that stuff. Yeah but this castle was done in these tiles that are renowned for being some of the most beautiful old geometric like Islamic patterns. You've ever seen in your life and they got to assure he'd seen him before but it it was. I guess he was like. Oh that's kind of cool right. The second trip that he went back with after they moved to two from Switzerland Belgium or maybe to Switzerland That's when he was like I. Am obsessed with these now. Tesla rations started drawing them jetted into says that they work together. So I'm not. I didn't know that she was an artist. I right yeah I didn't either But they World War Two comes back around will not comes back around it never left. Let's be honest but Spain Spain would devolve into civil war and so this meant that he was kind of stuck in In outside of Amsterdam for a little while longer yeah. He wasn't doing in as much traveling. No he was in the Netherlands in He rekindled his friendship with Mosquito his old mentor tour Who had stayed another? Lund's this whole time and mosquito was Jewish and he was taken away by the Nazis. Eventually he was killed at Auschwitz really with his wife terrible and their son was also killed another concentration camp by the Nazis. And this really got to assure. Yeah like this is one of his dear friends and he had A work a sketch of mosquitoes. When he went to his house to visit visit mosquito he found the door was open and they weren't there and they clearly have been taken by the Nazis and one of the pieces of artwork that gathered together to preserve was a sketch of mosquitoes? That had a Nazi blueprint on it. And that's what you were referencing earlier with your Google. Search mosquito blueprint did you. was there a picture of it. No I couldn't find anything aside from the fact that it was a sketch not that it was a sketch of. What like that just that? There was a sketch of mosquitoes that was that had a boo aboard. Blueprint and that s your hang hung onto. This is his entire life. Life is very important to him and he was not Very flowery like Like passionate man or anything like that. I get the impression that he And this is actually. I'm talking about the he internalized a lot of stuff And I I think that him holding onto that piece of art was probably a more significant than even at appears on the outside. Yeah and Supposedly hid some people from a Jewish family during the Nazi occupation years and also during the same years did not exhibit or release. Any Prince. Wait a minute I think he just said hit some people from Jewish family. Did you say hit some members of a Jewish family. Well people members of a Jewish family from I think yeah I mean like they were from a Jewish family. Got To hide them from right right. Don't tell the Jewish family that you're hiding being over here now that would have been weird So maybe we should take a break now. Oh I think it's unravels guys are. Yeah Yeah Okay Chuck so World War Two kind of comes and goes around Esher despite his best efforts to escape it And I it definitely had had a mark on him but one of the other things that that had a really big mark on him was having to move from Italy like you said like he was married had family his father was still supporting him and every spring and summer he would just tour the Italian countryside and visit small quaint towns. Just be inspired to keep making these Italian landscapes gapes but ed makes a really great point here that his Italian landscapes are very handsome. Works of art very beautiful. My favorite technically proficient there chuck's favourite. But you would. It almost certainly have never seen them in your entire life now. Were it not for him moving from Italy because in doing so he lost his source of inspiration nations and it was forced to kind of turn inward because he hated was Switzerland looked like he wasn't apparently very inspired by his home country of the Netherlands So we had to kind of turn inward into his own imagination and start coming up with new subjects and in doing that. The True Escher was was unlocked. Yea because early in like a lot of artists early in their career they they kind of free range through different styles trying to find their own personal thing he had a very the Very colorful clown period. It's very bizarre. Doesn't fit with the rest of it very John Wayne Casey right but you can very clearly really see if you look at Mosquitoes work that connection and the influence from him Although mosquito did a lot of sort of graphic portrait's and things like that bad whereas escher didn't really worry too much about humans and faces. Yeah Yeah They would they were just kind of like almost afterthoughts but early on. He did start experimenting with stuff that would later become his hallmark When he did do like a a sketch of a building? Let's say it would be from this really like Mike Tall odd angle looking down on it. very severe angles and Like a a horizon or trees that sort of go on into infinity stuff like that that would become Very much his style later on and Ed various points out that there's something about his style that I don't know how dark of a person he was. Jin emotionally but there is something about the severity of these angles and a lot of his work. That was just sort of uneasy feeling right. It didn't look like just some beautiful colorful Italian countryside there was something kind of strange and Unusual about it something about the the contrast of black and white definitely does it to you and he was such a master of shading that if something was a stark and black and white I mean unless it was his earliest work because he wanted to look that way and to make it stark and kind of unsettling. Like that there's like a certain amount of dread in a lot of his stuff. Yeah and it's not something you can easily put your finger on but it's definitely there. Yeah like did you see The the mummified priests yeah that was creepy and then one of it. Isn't it more creepy to actually do that. In real life to mummify these little Alcoa's absolutely sure don't kill the Messenger and he would have Sometimes skulls featured in some of his work working and stuff like that like the one of the I believe called I right in the middle of the people is a skull staring back so we have little touches like that without going full. Well like You know love crafty in right or Goya or something like that. Iran's Bosh I don't know who that is sure you do just kidding okay and others people okay so His I guess this is where we get to the fact of the show for me. Take it away truck because folks if you've ever seen an emcee print and he thought man that guy could sure draw a print imagine cutting that out of wood in reverse in reverse because it's what he did a lot of his stuff. Where would cuts even harder than that? Chuck is the lithograph. Yeah so a woodcut cut if you've ever made a used a stamp or made a potato stamp. MCI well that's what it is. He's actually carving the stuff vendor would as a negative image because then when you run INC over it and stamp it you get the positive image and it's just incredible. I mean it's hard enough to draw and sketch the stuff stuff right much less cut. It would right so so just take a step back and think about the ashes that you've seen before. Imagine that they were. They were originally carved out. Avoid Loyd and now imagine that to get even more detail because you can't adjust how much ink is certain. Part of the woodblock kits is all GonNa get an even layer of ink so to shade. Something you have to do cross hatching lines stiffling ZANU like that but to get really detailed with shading you need. Multiple blocks talks of the same image. The exact same size with different parts accentuated. So that you can layer over you can take the same paper and in layer them on different blocks in line them up so that you have layers to this image. That was the level of the wood cuts. This guy was doing wing. That's sort of like a t shirt in the exact screen printing like a four color shirt. You gotta lay you gotta put it on exactly in the in the spot. It needs to go each time drag that NCA- Cross. Yeah so it's not you know off by a centimeter right because it would look bad. So the wood cuts especially especially as earlier woodcut. You can tell there would cuts. They look like would cuts. Yeah some of them do not. There's some of the Italian countryside That Save Ritz are just yeah just astounding when you stop and think about the idea that they they're drawing that there would cuts multiple mocked would cuts is is pretty astounding. Like I was saying to me. Even even more difficult is making the lithograph. Yeah I think I talked about this on some other episode I know talked about teaching but also talked to industrial arts. We did Set Lavar graffiti in that social experiment. Highschool go We did offset lithography which basically I mean that's the process today. I mean that's how they make newspapers posters books maps kind of everything. This is offset lithography. It was in you remember. It was in the Edges Ketchup so oh that's real. High originally did was lithograph. Okay this is a deep cut. This is pre like today use like aluminum or some other kind of metal sheet right and these emotions nations and chemicals Back then It was johnny limestone a flat slab of limestone with a grease pencil. And then I used chemical treatment to on the areas that basically water naked. Don't mix it sort of all built on that principle right so the areas where you have Britain and Greece Do not hold that ink or is it the other way round. No I think they don't hold the again. What you're doing is creating a negative image? Just like the Woodcut essentially usually right. So you've got this Attraction and repulsion interplay between INC water in Greece right. And when you put it all together on limestone it makes these extremely subtle gradients of shading That are kind of like a hallmark of some of issues more Well known works. The Hands Drawing Hands Right. Yeah that was a lithograph. He made that with limestone in Greece. Pen and ink and Did it in reverse too. Because just like with the woodblock you have to create the negative of it. Yeah because the you want the positive image on the paper you have a very special brain if this is if you can work this stuff out as an artist yes you know it's Uh Not saying that any kind of artists any better or worse or smarter than the next but your brain just has to be wired a little bit differently to that thinking negatives like that like a mathematician basically. Yeah your brain has to be set up that way. Yeah absolutely But lithography is difficult very labor intensive offensive Later on he would hire a lithography to actually create his parents after he is sketched drawn. Stuff out smart move and he would destroy the the limestone while he wouldn't destroy it. He would scrape it cleans we can reuse it right. So that's the reason like if you want to buy an original M C escher good luck well. There's there's I think there's original prints that he made an apparently you're not going to get your hands one of those limestones no but there are a couple of those leftover but he said that he wanted him am I think cancelled is what they call it in his will right where they intentionally damage it so that even if you got a hold of one of these things and you're like I'm going to print me a brand rain New Hampshire There'd be like the like the negative image of snuggle push like come through the the Handwriting Hands Picture and he did not do many original prints from those original wood cuts and lithographs. Either think he only did ten of still life with Spiritual Mirror UH and so anything. Obviously anything you buy an spencer gifts is going to be a print anyway. What they told me it was an rich mean Bikini Lady on Corvette probably get the original? Data's been through the original negative Jeannie Lady it could be. How man remember with Lamborghini the These lithographs he would also layer those just like you do with the woodcut. Creating multiple the plates to layer on top of one another for shading intoning and stuff like that right. Just amazing. Yeah I mean I did it to make monkeys t shirt. I forgot used a screen green print too. So did I. Yeah well actually. The monkeys t-shirt was screen printing. I think a kimber boy what I did for a lithographic something to make a note pad it said said like my name and something else. Oh that's right so you you've screen printed in industrial arts. Yes okay you were you ever employed gainfully as a screen Oh No oh no did you do that. Yeah now I mean I would have loved to it. I wasn't good enough. It's always a hard. Yeah but I mean you would draw the stuff or you know the burn the screens and everything and drag the ink through for for a job like high school. No this is not a legitimate college. What kind of doughty make doing that? Jack Yeah but it's fine. It's cool work. You know useless needed a few bucks pretty much hang out with some cool dudes and you know. Yeah Yeah I gotcha say good early college job. You know what I mean. I think it'd be cool and I mean there's a very cool t-shirt local t shirt shop here that every time I go over there because that's where our friend The patch maker Katie culp works or at least you used to think. She's got her own space now. Oh cool she shared a space with with t-shirt dudes and anytime in their system. Good vibe you know what really is. There are a lot worse places to spend your time than t shirt shop. Yeah so Oh another thing. We should point out is that he did do color. Occasionally Butt color was a whole different entity separate stone for each color right. So that's that's why a lot of his stuff ended up in black and white right aside from the fact that he liked it as well. Yeah he seemed to be very pleased with black and white in general yeah. I'm not saying he was lazy. No but let's take a step back here for a second and examined the idea that you thought. MCSE was a pretty amazing artist when you just imagined that he was sitting in his studio drawing in all of this stuff with a pencil now really let it sink in that. He carved these things in reverse out of wood or limestone or limestone and then use. He's crazy techniques to make these extraordinarily detailed incredibly precise and technical works of art. It's amazing it it really is amazing truly astounding and like you said there are a few of those stones and wood blocks That are owned by the MC foundation SNUGGLE PUSS on every single one of them and apparently they will they will display them occasionally Along with his works right which I imagine seeing that and then looking at the work of art and then going back and looking at that limestone and then looking at the work of art or really kind of sinks in like. Oh my yeah. I'd love to see an exhibition of his stuff. Me Two. They've picked up in recent years. I yeah. It seems like he's being more appreciated As a truly great artists in less how storm while material Yep in two two thousand eleven the record for highest overall attendance in the world out of all the museums in the world that year was at the Centro Cultural Banco do Brasil Lil which held their magical world of exhibit. Oh five hundred. Seventy thousand visitors about ten thousand a day holy cow. Yep So if you think lithography woodcutting sounds difficult. We'll talk a minute about measure tint That is sort of like woodcutting woodcutting. Except you're using a sheet of copper that starts out as a rough surface no and then use these little tools to smooth out things that are going to be the image wjr applying that ink and then wiping it off right so those places you smooths out are the ones that are going to be white on the paper blind on the paper. All right It's the rough edges that hold the ink so you cover the whole thing inc.. Wipe it down. The smooth starts parts. Come clean the rough stuff Has the ink in. You can use this like this is this isn't like Oh look are made an ex led to believe define Stiffling is possible with these copper plates and all this in a measure ten. And that I that you were talking about the skull if you go back and look at that That was a mess tent. And Yeah so it was do drop. Yeah Very detailed cupped leaf Showing a single drop of do inside it with all kinds of cool reflections But extra called this. The Black Art He only made eight of these because it is a real undertaking and I think he is just I. He he did a handful of them and then moved onto the far easier. woodcutting right right. He's like came back baby. All right. We'll we'll take a break and then we'll come back and pick up With his life story again which is a liberal left off in what into World War. Two sounds right Okay World War Two's over MCSE was like a lot of people very rattled by that experience in Europe and At this point he still is not a super famous artists making tons of money. No but he's more famous than than this makes makes him out to be like. Yeah he's he's got some renown in the Netherlands or certain circles a bit yeah But he's not anywhere anywhere even approaching Ching how he is today or how he has been the last few decades since about like the late sixties. College dorms have not yet started putting stuff everywhere no but the people who who who most appreciate what. He's doing our scientists and mathematicians who are like this is astounding. This guy is taking what we write out his formulas and turning them into art and making them precise. Yeah like you could describe this work of art as formula. That's that is what. MCI was able to do. He was able to take math breath and translated into a visual art. Yet and You know remember what you said earlier. This is where we are in his life where he is He is not in the Italian countryside. Decide he's been ripped from its bodice so his muse is gone and he is now looking inward for inspiration in his own Unique brain who's being forced into his own bodice face I. This is where he starts with these solutions. More elaborate geometric shapes he's doing The lizards and the birds and insects. This is testing a really really cool stuff His brother Said Hey dude you know what you should do is go talk to crystallography. He's I WanNa talk detailed tapes. Yeah math yeah. And he does so and that taught him a lot and then he learned about the seventy seventeen wallpaper groups. Yeah which is so dense. It's that I you know how much do even WanNa talk about. Well the the summit up the seventeen wallpaper. Groups basically is a mathematical concept that says every geometric pattern two-dimensional geometric pattern falls into one of seventeen categories. There's only seventeen and they're called kind of half jokingly the wallpaper groups because wallpaper has geometric patterns usually right Asher we couldn't understand it. mathematically yet was proved out twice independently Bentley. The was that there are seventeen. The mathematical proof one of the things. That's interesting chuck. The Alhambra apparently is the only place in the world that contains all seventeen metric wallpaper patterns within its walls. That's pretty cool. Yeah so of course would appeal to Esher. But he didn't understand he couldn't sit down and explain like we can't with the seventeen wallpaper. Groups are or what they mean mathematically but he understood them intuitively and as he became. Came friends with mathematicians you know about mid career He was apparently kind of amused to find. Like you know these guys spend all all this time writing this stuff out and these formulas and I know it was almost like I was born knowing it. Yeah Yeah I mean I guess he was real cocky. Yeah he wasn't really onto and I didn't get the idea either that he was like. Take your math and shove it was just a little more amused like you've got these mathematical proofs and That like I'm drawing stuff for my creative brain on limestone down cutting it out of wood So I think he appreciated jaded the way they coalesced but And he was very like you said most of his friends were mathematicians. I think later in life Who did he? Yeah Roger Lionel Penrose and I love how it's described here father and son mathematician team. Yeah you know. Those people were matching Dolphin. Short uh-huh Oh man further uniform. I wish people still were those. Did you ever wear those no. They were a little before my time. Well they were for joggers. The runners yeah two thousand eleven. And who do I forgot about that. Yeah that is what hooters waitresses lawrence dolphin shorts shorts with Remember Bronze Pantyhose. Yeah and then Chunky White SOx yeah. It was very bizarre interesting. Look somebody put that together and not a woman man. Do you remember. There was a there was a hooters. Airline what yeah. Wow that kind of rings a bell. That was very short lived. I imagined I believe so. It was pretty short lived interesting. I guess yeah so you would get asked like what kind of drink. And what style of chicken wings chicken wings on this course but key. Imagine being on an airplane being forced to smell chicken wings. The whole time for you didn't like it That's like every flight I ever take. It's true there's somebody with some stinky food. You know if I sit next to somebody on the plane and I'm GONNA eat. I asked them if it's okay if I eat. If you bring food on Yup I. I don't bring food onto a flight sometimes you just have to. It's a long flight and I'M NOT GONNA run out of Turkey wraps like in the first half a second so you just pull out what. You're what my tongue Powell that you had just in case they're out of Turkey round not even containers just in my pocket. Oh goodness so thought this part was sort of amusing How orderly he always was with his art and he he tried to get into chaos a bit and This one work contrast parentheses order in chaos parentheses wherein he went in Dug up a bunch of trash instead I will I will draw chaos and it ended up being if you go and look at it. There's like a broken bottles broken eggshell an open sardine ten broken clay pipe and some other refuse drawn to like perfect arrogance woodcutter lithographs with perfect beautiful precision that was chaos. His interpretation of it just couldn't do it. He was very much preoccupied with cassie is very famous co probably his most famous co quote. We adore chaos. Because we'd love to produce order and he's like by we he. I mean yes. Sure sounded very much like an ice statement but he was. He was very much into geometry and precision and clean lines and all that yeah and also as his career would Progress this this these repeating patterns on a finite space If you've seen his circle limit that series that's where you'll find the fish or these demons and they start out with like one in the center and then there's a pattern all around as it gets closer and closer to the edge. They get smaller and smaller and smaller. And you can sort of imagine that there is no end right to these shapes that they're just going infinitely around this fear perfectly but again and you have to stop and remind yourself this is a two dimensional image. I'm looking at right. And then secondly this is cut out of wood but yeah he apparently made a three dimensional mentioned wood carving of his circle series later on in life and I'll bet that's spectacular to see to the he made it what a three dimensional basically proving that his his two dimensional drawing accurate. Yeah because he made it in the three dimensions that's awesome. He was just showing off toward the end there. I like reptiles aside from his early countryside. Work that is far superior Detention of lizards and reptiles is really neat. That's the one and it has The lizards being like crawling off of the page as a drawn image circling around walking over some books and then crawling back back over onto the page drawn image. Yeah very neat is It's a lot like the hands drawing drawing hands one kind of where the hands. Yeah drawing themselves or one another but they're also three dimensional too and that actually kind of jobs with another quote. He had That I think really sums that style style of Arda he said the flat shape irritates me. I feel as if I were shouting to my figures you are to fictitious for me. You just lie there static etiquette frozen together do something come out of there and show me what you're capable of life and he would shout it just like that and then jeter would back out of the room okay dear And that sort of brings us to the reptiles We we need to talk a little bit about illusion Because it started sorta early on he was preoccupied with illusion whether it was like these lizards coming off the page or a still life and street which is tabletop that blends into a street scene. It's a neat one. Yeah it's really cool. I like that one too Or relativity which I don't know I mean. Is there a most famous. Maybe the hands. It's between hands self-portrait with fear and relativity relativity is the one with the the staircase people going up and down stairs. That don't go. Oh anywhere but they go everywhere and they circle back on each other and it's just an impossible staircase actually called penrose stairs really. Yeah after the famous father and son mathematician ESPN and speaking of the penrose is they say mathematician. I just minutes something did. I did amazing completely by accident The Penn roses that would be great mathematician. That's something four but the penrose is apparently road they saw some work wrote a paper explaining his work about impossible. Things like impossible stairs which came to be called penrose stairs and and Escher was either mailed a copy of this or somebody pointed out to him so he created something called House of stairs or upstairs downstairs. One of the the two and One of the original prints to the pen roses so in a way. They're correspondents and inspiration for one. Another was like a set of impossible. astaire's in real life that interesting. Yeah and this. Is You know we were talking earlier about how his work somehow felt unsettling and you know the subject matter as well when you think about these. The the subjects walking and relativity right clearly. Never getting anywhere walking downstairs. I'm inside ways all of a sudden. I'm walking back into the same staircase. I was just on like you imagine if these things were to come alive they would be frustrated. Angry the people right and act as a matter of fact one of the The one that you're talking about upstairs downstairs they That was supposedly based based on a staircase in his school. Really which suddenly says quite a bit about psychology. Don't you think well how so Yeah well I mean like these students aren't going anywhere. They're not even human. There's with human faces Gotcha. And they're kind of trapped in this what you could definitely call like like a A purposeless existence in this building. Kind of dark building interesting so he does finally achieve really great fame later in his life Like you said. He was holding exhibitions in the Netherlands in a little bit in Europe but he did want to Belgium in nineteen fifty that lead to An article in the studio which was art magazine and that captured the attention of a journalist. Who wrote about him in time and life magazines which definitely propped up a little bit Then that lead to a larger exhibition at the International National Mathematical Congress and fifty four flash forward to sixty six he was featured in Mathematical Games column in Scientific Typical American by Martin Gardner Math Magician. I guarantee that's the thing And that increased is and this was sixty six so so it was kind of perfect timing with the hippies and the drugs and the counter culture right and I guess who was it Graham Nash? Graham Nash Mick Jagger Cinema Fan Letter I made the mistake of calling him by his first name. I really. Cheshire did not appreciate Stanley Kubrick tried to recruit him to make two thousand one space odyssey see a fourth dimensional film Yeah there's this interesting article called the impossible world of MCS share that Steven poole wrote in The Guardian. That has a lot of that stuff in it but he was he was kind of like no. I'm good over here with math mathematician friends. Well once he was featured in a scientific American that led to the big daddy of if a mall he got featured in rolling stone and then after that it was it was all over he. He was huge. Yeah Dorm Room huge Four hundred and forty eight works then this doesn't count all the sketches and drafts these are like the actual final works right and like we said earlier he died nineteen seventy-two cancer. The just seventy three and I tried to find more about his family but there's not a lot out there like his sons and whether or not his I mean I guess grandkids would be contemporaries race of ours. 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#696 - Andrew 'Dice' Clay

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Lease I at check this mother fucking meal. The Churchill what's happening now. Epi comedies. Decides play. Joey, he's got the price. Show. What's this? I love that. That's the jamming I love pick him with that. It really is. That's a jam in a decade. Go when you asked me, century, eagle on to come out with said it was like instant. I didn't have the there was no thought done a lot of fun and breaks. That's it. Yeah. I do love it. I love it. Great to have you on the show, you spend and beautiful. Thank you. Congratulations. On a star is born now, here's the fucking crazy thing. A lot of people, I know this because we had Nick Malonga sitting at oh, okay. You also want do the guest book. So anyway, the green book green guys book, the green book anyway, you, call it, you will either being one Academy Award nominated film or fucking tooth. Well, you know what? Honestly, I was really happy for neck because you know, just like us guys struggled and struggled, and I know all about the movie and with the movie was about about his dad, and like he couldn't even believe like when it was going to get made. You know what I mean? When there was a deal flowing into place. And then all of a sudden Spielberg signed on the what's it called Amblin company, you know, and Knicks come to me going, you know, Spielberg's now producing this. Like I was just thrilled for him because this a guy just like us, you know, did whatever you had to do to pay his rent, you know, you know, now, he's, he's the winner, not just the best picture best screenplay and he's just cooking. Now. He was talking about you, because you both the sopranos per, yes. Yes. How was that great? He was great. He's like the greatest guy, right? Sweetheart of you know, just a sweetheart. I'm I shot a film with him in two thousand twelve. Oh, okay. So, you know, we met, and he was explaining the story about his father Bubba block until this day. I've always said, any mob move over the same his father's got the best lime any moment. Opening the pope village Mickey rook walks into the restaurant and the maitre d' says the way to goes the guy wants to talk to in the back lets the movie opens still rolling. He goes into the bathroom, and this guy shaking his Dick Rippe superior off the thing. And he goes, oh, how come nobody keeps me? Wait, when they're looking to Blau. Luck and just just threw me off. That's like our movie. Yeah. Somebody wants to borrow money that ten minutes before like pulp is like a bible to us by. I lost my fucking mind. But it's now talking to you about the film saver cook mckie's first line to favor them cook jolly, I'm coming. I'm coming job when he says to him, after they come off and he's in the room with the punch him away. Wait a minute. And I haven't done this in a long time. And he's stoned out from taking all the pills cause Mickey's gone. How many knows I don't know. I took all fucking and then he's like, hitting the, the there's a heavy bag. And Mickey's Thome how his girlfriend dumped him, you know. And Eric Roberts characters what's his name again in the movie. Every it's Charlie drought Hawley all Asia. Sometimes. Yeah. Got us MAC. You gotta say you put your coat on, and you don't say goodnight tug, no body. And that's just a humble. And then he passes out, you know, I mean, you don't smack the knock a mind. He's what did you say? He goes, sometimes you got us back now. It's Magar and say, you it's not about knocking them out, just your clothing. Good night. You code on a new don't second night Todd nobody. And that's just a humble. You don't hit him during the oak tree, but didn't give them a little wacky says something like I don't have the exact squatting front of me. I'm sorry. Thirty five years ago came. Wow. So nobody's got the right frontal. Five snuck in years show me, the clip of that. I have seen pretty close have been waiting for the sequel to that there's a sequel they had, and it's so funny because the guy that was like a PA on that movie was to produce on by the men to what you know, and I want up to shook his hand. He's got did you even see that, you know, the original cast was supposed to be pope? No, we're supposed to be Pacino James Caan. That's it was going to do that move and what happened. They fell out and mckeon and Eric Robinson it. And that's the only way can ever see that movie. Like, even when I think, of how great Pacino James Caan should it would have done. But you just see the scene like we're doing the scenes from the movie there's so many great minds in that movie when they're at the fucking or stable. The milk in the whole whatever the fuck that doing the foot. He goes, it's like your mother's Matz around. Nothing nothing. But I went to your mother stall. Motorola, and the guy gets it's not the trolls have never made a piece of two that time, nothing but Matz kinda tough was kind of tough. I used to do all that on stage impressions. He cut his thumb off with a knife. Frankie vincent. I love to work with Frank Vincent. Four sit during a what a fun happened. All these years, I was a good fucking if movies, but he franked a ton of movies. Frank was amazing amazing, you know, his he was supposed to be Scorsese was looking at him for when they were doing the raging bull. Okay. And so they were looking at a film, like a B movie with Frank Vincent. And in the background was peci. You know, like doing something onstage, 'cause in Frank will partners like a comedy team. And, and as he was like, who's that guy, and they both obviously wound up in the movie, but it made test career because he wasn't even being thought of at the time from what I know from the stories, I've been told so they both wound up come these big time actors he put him in everything, Frankie, Vincent. Except I think mean streets is Frankie Vincent. No, no. This is all. This is all post potent means streets. You know, this was once it became like raging bolt on. Now. What was it was a good fill? Whichever one came first raging came a okay. Eighty one eight. Okay. And then good fell. He was like a restaurant waiter or something, Joe. She manager at a restaurant and him. And Frankie was the drummer. Yeah. Thank you. Vincent was a drummer or something. And they wouldn't like some we had like a little drum battle, you crack a joke in the symbol sh that they were team working. Yeah. But we did we did this movie that never came out, man. Frank. Vincent did Lynn stop. A Mexico was called the good life. Was this crazy thing that we went through in Mexico, two months? But there was a set of drums, so we were going back and forth. He was a good drama. He was like a real, j it's drama, great guy, just a great guy like he's the way you would have wanted to be, when you meet them, you know, even play the, you know, when I'm not on screen disquiet. This whole like some of these actors, you know, he had personality patchy the greatest. You know all these guys when I first met, you, you would just getting off the set of a movie with Stallone, his brother. That's the movie, the good life, and you playing golf or something like that, yet you toward the movie never came out, tortured, brother had because it wasn't being teen. Play to torture, Frank. If, if I get into that story, we will not get to talk about anything else, and I love, you know, Frank. Give me one torture chamber. You put okay my world. Frank aided rallies. Okay. No. But frying happens to be like a great great sing like he's got that Sinatra style a singing like he can do that with the big band. Okay. And but I didn't know too much of it back then. Right. So anyway, Frank would go off and piss all of Harry Connick, who was the biggest at the time with the big band stuff. Okay. And so me and Frank would argue over this, and I'm saying how great conic is, and Frank would piss all over it. And one day in the makeup trail at this, this act appeared Dopson was also doing the movie with us. So unloved entertaining Dopson by fighting with Frank day night, you know. You know, and the reason the fighting what happened would be because he wasn't being a team play with us. Like Frank would be like, do you understand this movie's, my fucking shot, you know, and I'm the lead in this, and then he'd leave my room and I'd look at Peter Dobson ago, turn this movie into fuck and Jerry Lewis? And the movie, the movie was supposed to be funneled. The kind of movie is supposed to be goodfellas on a golf course. Okay. Okay. It's a very tough moving, you know. And I'm behind Frank impersonation of him smoking. He doesn't even see me doing this ship. A mocking on screen because of the way he treated us. Okay. So now he's with the conic bullshit. So one day I come into to make up, this is an it's one hundred and ten degrees and stop a Mexico ever been to stop. No nobody understands nothing. I didn't eat food for five weeks. Everybody was winding up in the fuck and hospital. Don barris broke his like I in a hole in the floor or something. So every day I would eat at five o'clock, I would have pasta and garlic, bread and coke with purified ice, and I wouldn't eat till the next day at the same time. That's all I would eat. Because everybody was falling at the waist and going to the hospital, but it was a beautiful island in Mexico. Okay. So I come into to, to make up and Franks. And he's blasting that it's distorted his his cassette. Okay. Of his music that allowed he was playing. And I don't say a fucking word. Because, you know, when I have a thing about me, and I really made it like a big thing when I did entourage about nobody fucks with dice dice, does the fucking in the long run for always and forever dice does the fucking. That's just the way it is. I don't if it's an executive show run over an act Weber wants to fuck with me learns that in the end I will do the fucking. That's it. It's how I've lived my life. So I'm letting the music just blast and pitas there and he's not saying nothing and I'm doing my makeup and. So now I'm done with the makeup, you know, Frank still sitting there and pita, still sitting there and as passing the, the, the distorted cassette play on lower the volume. Okay. And go, you know, something Frank, you know, I'm going to say, and I'll say in front of this trailer full of people. You do sing better than Harry Connick junior, I go the differences, Harry Connick junior, sings the songs people wanna hear. And that's why he did nine nights at Madison Square Garden, and I crank the music and welcome. He's trying to yell at me. I just walked the fuck out, you know, it's like, come on, but Frank really does all honesty. He's like an unbelievable crooner all kidding aside with sixteen saw Castro, this guy swings like Sinatra, you know, and I even have him on, like all, my platelets, like you know how you make playlists on your ipod all that. And I would call this fucking moron and I go once we became friends, again, it only took like three years after the movie, and I go Frank, why not in Las Vegas. With the orchestra just swing. Five nights a week. Well dice, if you got me an agent white, a fuck do I need to get you. An agent. Stallone your Sligh's brother. He can't get you a personal appearance agent. You wanna best I go, and I love, like, Michael, boo. Blair, I love all these guys, but he sings betta Frank is better. He's just a better singer. The feel something when you perform you don't you know, and he's one of those guys when it gets onstage, he just feels it, you know. And then he'll pick up the acoustic guitar go. No, not the acoustic. A fuck about you with an acoustic guitar. Swang mother fucker just fucking swing. He's amazing. He really is amazing. He put maybe twelve years ago, I used to work at this gym, and they through the cassette out the fucking DVD. Everybody walked put rap music now. He's, he's actually a great guy. He reads like a book day, like, you know, but, you know, and that, you know, that movie never came out that was a lot of problems. And Dennis hopper was in the movie. You know, sly was in the movie, they did it. He did a cameo, you know, and. You know. It just became a mess. And you know. You know, I had like so nothing now would happen get a call. There's a long time ago. So I guess I like thirty. So I you know. I get a call. I'm sitting at the pool with my wife at the time I got whisper this and. So now I get a call from slides attorney that does a problem that might be a big lawsuit with the movie. So I'm trying to tell the attorney like, well, you know, if there's a problem, you know, call me whatever like blowing it off. Because, you know, that was like a little indiscretion with me and like one, the produces like a little like little onset affair wasn't accident. And, you know, so I couldn't be sitting on the phone next to the woman. I love going again. Talk about it now because, you know, there was thing with the. But if you need me, I'm with, you know, was crazy. What would go on? I you know, I'm fucking good. I just can't help myself. I love. The marriage didn't work. I don't believe on cheating on your wife. But if you bump into a blow job, so I told you walk on this. I don't look at flying blow look at it like cheating. It just comes down and such dick and flies. How does this sound Joey? It's not cheating, if you're in another state and you can't get there in time. You know, like I've called different wives and girlfriends, and go. I will wait till midnight to blow my cork. But you gotta be there and be ready to catch it or else. I got no choice. You leave me. No choice. You know, a nice like that. I don't wanna cheat on them. You know what I mean? They, they do it to them selves. You know how will you gonna get from across the country? I got a load that's boiling, and my bulls, you know what I mean? I, I got a complete face. Full of paste feel. You know what I mean? So where are you there? Are you with ikat call them, you know, and your mouth, wait a fuck? You know what I mean? You know, I'm a guy I really do enjoy sex. I you know, it's the reason I date. You know, I, I don't mind blowing my own load, but I'd rather have somebody that if I'm bored with myself. All right. Come over here. Don't be shy. You know what I mean? Moved to pillows out from between us. I do hate sharing a bedroom with a girl. Oh, yeah. You know. And trust me, I'm not doing any stage material here showcasing foot, whoever's listening. This is just who I am. But like, you know, like, let's say you have an argument, like with the chick, okay? What do you do you turn your back to a right? Always, you know, like like that's going to stop, you know, all of a sudden, she opens up the laptop with the glow like a like a UFO just landed in the fucking bedroom. So you're not going to be able to sleep. But if you have your own bedroom, and not everybody could afford it. You know, but if you have enough bedroom have your own fucking bedroom. So when you do have an argument, it just go over there, you know instead of being in the same room in hearing, the, the heavy. Are you gonna be like walk out of the room? Just work out of the room. I don't get away. You sleep, you know what I mean? So it's very hard to share a bedroom. That's what I believe in. I don't even know what talking about this stuff goes to fuck because I was no fucking good. I told my sons all the time I go, you know, I'm you know smoker, you know, which I quit now you know, a gambler, you know, I you know, I would I cheat on all my girls, you know, because, you know, because they just don't allow you to bang the checks without any repercussion. I just never understood that. You know, the home moment thing always threw me off going. So why could some jerk off guy living in fucking Utah? Be able to fuck ten chicks. Take a pick this one for tonight this, you know. And I'm the nicest guy in the world, and I get one and then all of a sudden 'cause a matter guy that bang. From that time at a month, I could live without at that time in a month, but give me like a little room. Right. You know, let me go have a few laughs. I didn't create this cycle that you go through. And now today, you know how they will want you to really understand what they would a fuck as what you go through. I'm not a girl a never gonna understand this shit. Just tell me when I could hop the fuck back on that. I wanna know. Yeah. You know, like if I start dating girl like asko like I know, when that kind time in Amman, like, like, do you really get like in a bad mood like one to ten like, you know, like, give me the answers to the test that I need to know? If I can make this, a serious relationship like between one and ten how bad is it? Do you go seven days? Is it a three day like quickey because I'm not waiting seven fuck in days and watching you angry for said. Days does no way living with you. If that's the fucking thing, you know, just live on your own and come see me when you when, when. When you're reveal lable do whatever I need done done with marriage now. Are you writing it off? I mean I you shouldn't ever say done, you know what I mean. Like, I'm not looking for it because, you know, I would like to now you know, it's like two years since me and my ex broke up. So it's time like, you know, I like having somebody, but number one, she's got to be hot as balls. You know what I mean? That's you know, I'm not going to settle for anything less. You know. I mean why go with something that looks like fucking livestock? You know what I mean? I'm in fucking show business dice. So, you know, I want to be picky about who the next one is. And but marriage I don't know. Maybe you know, I would marry like maybe I don't know like a. The something different somebody number one wealthy to make you know what I mean by a twenty two year old Chinese. It's not even about the aid just have a lot more money than me. Like, if I met like an armless billionaire beautiful, there's something I haven't been with you know what I mean. Like she won't have to turn her call like with teeth. You know what I mean? Like you know what I mean, to make illegal u-turns that would be different, but relies if I meant like. Like all the girls I've ever married, you know, and they've been ton of them and engagements and all kinds of shit. And but I would actually I gotta thing like I actually need to really be crazy about the girl I married because, you know, like when you meet these women that are looking for a guy like with a lot of money, and they spend their life like looking to collect diamonds and 'cause it's like you wasting your time on earth being with somebody, you're not even really into. Yeah. You know what I mean? We're most of the women from LA or if it's women from anywhere, like, you know, a lot of mothers, do teach ticker. Oh, it just disease, a marry riches it. How about marrying just what you love? You know what I mean because any girl ever married I was in love with. That's it till I hated them. Till it fell apart. You know, 'cause I it's Joe even knows my relationships have been like I was with my son's mom for sixteen years. That's a, that's a long run, even my last relationship was nine years that, that's a long run. You know. So, yeah, I never went, you know with a girl for money, you know, like, yeah, when I came out, he was Dayton Sandie Shaw for a little while Mitzi was like, oh, you'll marry my daughter twenty one fucking years old. You know, and, you know forget about Jewish girls, you know. Yeah. 'cause my first girl girl was Jewish girl, and she just wrecked it for all the other Jewish girls. Just awful to be with we get an argument, if I was looking girl in another caller. Okay. Sixty nine the Mons and with drive down king's highway in Brooklyn. She opened the door to throw a self out in the fucking car. I'd have to grit, what the fuck is. This was. Not a one time event. Okay. This went on at least once a week where she strolling herself editor, call a moving call in. So one night, I ask ton Amari may, you know, I wanted to guarantee getting blown, it was New Year's Eve. Right. And so she goes, let's go tell my parents, whatever. So I go to in the morning we don't have. Let's do this instead. 'cause now you're going to be married. And now let's go so we go wait. The parents up and was sitting there, and I actually re sorta did this, my first special dice, man cometh, right? Where this girl calls me, she goes, what's he ever going to be? He's like nothing. That's other girl would act because her father. I don't want to name names or anything. But how fall the at that time was a top NBA ref in the country and back then referees was famous as the place you know. And I don't even follow sports, but he was like if you heard his name, it was like what, you know, you know, and the guy made like fifty grand a year, and, you know all the perks whatever. So we wait the parents, we're gonna get married and she starts with me. It's three in the morning. About the ring. Now I'm working in clothing stone, bringing home like two hundred week and you know, I wasn't thinking this far I, I wanted to blow job, you know what I mean? I'm not thinking about spending thirty grand on ring in and she goes what do you mean? You're not going to get. I can't afford an expensive ring. Right. And she starts a fight in front of parents and all of a sudden, you know, I'm an explosive personality. Some just like fuck you fuck haw yelling at the parents, I go you keep this no good. Fucking bitch Mattis relationship, and I go to leave the apartment, which had a bunch of steps leading to the front door that she's now wrapped to roms around my neck and letting defeat drag on the steps, and I'm swimming at a father, get this fucking animal off of me before she gets fucking hurt in the father's fuck, and pulling her off me. And I'm like three in the morning. This is three in the fuck and morning. Happy new year. Andrew happy fucking new year. You know, and, you know, so I went with that girl, I swore off, like Jewish girls. And on my way to LA I it was saying the ago when my sister lives, that's where I'm at sandy, who was she was a great chick. You know and. I guess she liked my attitude because, you know, I knew I was in comedy for six months. I don't know about spots. I don't know about headlining pips at the my addition on Wednesday night, I was headlining Friday, sadly, you know, because I had an aquit turned from Jerry Lewis into John Travolta from Greece. So it would just kill. So when I come into comedy store, because my sister goes, oh, there's a comedy store in, in, in the Hoya, you know. And go get what the one in L as well. She goes. No, I think that connected, like, you know, so I go over there in a member. John the bartender. Okay. So it's daytime so come over to the sky, and I go yet, like to widow, sign up, I wanna go on tonight, you know, it just came from a Tahoe in Vegas performing, their you know, it was a sandy Hackett thing in, you know, I made like it was a gig, but it was just a showcase. And he goes, oh, you can't just sign up. You know, you got a you got to talk to the manager and. Where is it? He goes. No, it's it's a shame. She's in her office. Knock on the door. You know, be be nice with, you know. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, I'm not even thinking Mitzi comedy style. You know, means nothing to me, you know. So sandy, and yet, can I? Yeah. Widow sign up tonight. You know she goes what do you mean with you, sign up? You know, it doesn't it doesn't work. I go, Honey. You know, just Advair goose just the Tahoe. You know, I wanna go on, like, what am I gonna do, and she liked me immediately? You know 'cause like I was might as well been from another planet because I was from Brooklyn, and I never went I never left Brooklyn till I came out here, and she goes, well, why don't you come back tonight, about nine o'clock, and I'll get you on. And I went on and dazzled and next thing you know, we're in her, that she had disgraced Riviera next thing you know, walk in the beach, and, you know with the, the condos and. You know, and they're not come to LA and showcase from its, yet, the twenty eight minutes, which EMC, you know, rob Aguire de remember known. He was an MC back then. But I don't know. Who's the boss who's the own just went on? And they did my whole act. I give a fuck with the three minutes and the sky starts screaming at me as leaving the stage and I go you the owner. And he goes, no, but I'll make sure you get out of my way. You let's the own tells I, I didn't come three thousand miles to do three minutes. Okay. So move out of my way, I'm wanting, you, you know, and then I'm in the bathroom like taking putting all my Jerry Lewis stuff, back in the bag as a guy next to me, my first experience here and do in, you know in the regular bathroom in, in the original room. Yeah, good. You know, you know, me and you we sort of wear head the same way you know, because I had a lot more habit. I go. Yeah. You know, great. You know can help you something because I don't do that. You know, he was like coming onto me, and who was at fucking with me, Gary Shanley. So I'm Gary Shanley, and he started laughing. I am Gary. Yeah. Okay. Good. Bye. And. And then the next day, I get a cool. I'm staying with my friend. L hambro. Where just bang this other chick on the couch that he set up for me to his wife and I get a call. You gonna come to the comedy store and sign papers, europaid regular, you know. And I didn't even know what data will meant. I just was Mitchell Walt as that kept calling my father in Brooklyn. He, he saw me pips and Brooklyn. He was one emits main guys, you know, Mitchell. Yes. So when he saw the actor was doing. He kept calling my father at his office going. You don't understand. I have prepped Mitzi. Your son needs to come out here, and that's the reason I even came to LA was Mitchell, you know, and you know because he did a whole number but he kept goal of my father until I finally said, you know what I'm gonna go out for two weeks. And I didn't go back to Brooklyn for nine months for the first visit because Mitzi was like you, you can't go back there. You know, your star what use it was seventy. Nine February seventy nine when I came out here, jeez. Yeah. Started September thirteen seventy eight at pips and Brooklyn. So, like, you know, hefty later, I'm in LA. So I don't know. There's a comedy boom starting to happen. I just figured, you know, go to LA and just become like one of the biggest stars in the world. What do I have shit? I got I have no academic skills. So this is what I am. It's just just project myself to the shit. So from seventy nine to eighty seven what was going on? I just well, the Travolta act till I did Don Kirshner rock concert, which I did the Jerry lowest Travolta, and I ended with Stallone, it was amazing how we got away with using all that music, you know, paying nickel for you know, the rocky theme in Greece and all the music used 'cause the producer. Was Tom Lynch who was twenty three years old. And I go don't we have to pay like to use don't just three rack. And he wound up producing my first special dice, men comment and. Yeah. Because I took off in it was September thirteenth, exactly. Ten years later. February thirteenth, eight is when I add on the Rodney special on a Saturday and Monday was the biggest comic in the world. You know that what came first Rodney special or the vice may know Rodney special and even really even needed my own special because before my special hit, I was an arena surrounding. It was ridiculous. No shit. And, and what I did I predicted, and I've put this up on my Instagram where I put the Ed on my Instagram of a took a full page ad in variety. You know, on Thursday, the special was going to add the Saturday the thirteenth Rodney thing. So on the eleventh, but, you know, Friday how everybody closes down show business. So I took a full pay just met about thirty five hundred bucks on full-page half. The page is my picture. Real attitude. Picture, not even in a lead them just sitting on a chair backwards. And the other side, I wrote this whole long poem about I like in bold letters, I never studied much in school. But when I turned on the tube, and then I listed everybody like they was Elvis, the king, buddy rich with hands like lightning. Travolta sang in Dan's sly. Knock me out Brando, made me pal. I mentioned all these heroes a mine. And at the end I write Murphy and prior both. Great, no doubt. But in eighty eight it's dice. They'll shout. I never studied much in school dot dot dot, but I did study with big ball, writing Rodney Dangerfield nothing goes, right Saturday, and I predicted, what it was going to be to the entire industry, and it's exactly how it came down, 'cause number one Rodney, lemme at it, my shot 'cause he showed me an edit of my, you know what I did. And I looked at him. And I'm like. He goes, okay, man. What don't you work on? All right. We're going with the director and I worked on it for a couple hours and show to Rodney. He goes, you happy not man. Okay. All right. And that's what he led air because I knew what was going to affect the public. It just, you know, an kit with any of the comics, we're going to do on that show. I couldn't get what's his name, Barry sellable shows up. And what's Barry sellable known for wear leather jacket know something that they spoil Jack baseball? Okay, so he shows up in a motorcycle jacket that trying to fuck in throw me off, you know, all these fucking guys, so I go over to Rodney and I go what's was Sobel and goes what do you mean man? 'cause Rodney looked at me. Like I'm going to be the guy, you know, that's it. Like he knew that I was going to blow up if I did the right set. And I got wasn't a motorcycle, Jack. That's not what he was berry come in, and then, you know, embarrass era, he goes to the jacket. You know, goes, where's the baseball jacket goes away. This goes you wear it, but it's not going to be on TV. Okay, man. So go get your baseball jacket dice with leather Jack and that was it. You know, and I came up there. We did two shows on two different nights. The first show when I left the stage I came over to my father and my mother and training, you know, and I said, done biggest comic in the world. I didn't give a shit about the cameras I played to America. That's how you gotta do it. You know all the other comics word about what everybody else is doing all I can't about. I was so fucking prepared. I would see guys fucking around at the comedy store, you know too late night crabs. Three people fucking around, you know, Schimmel IRA just fucking around on, like you dumb fucks, man, when you get the shot of a lifetime in front of you. I don't get this. Nobody in the room. I'm running the set. You know. And that's it because the one thing I know is, when you do show like that you're going to be a little nervous. So at least be prepared at least know what's coming out of your mouth. No. You're not gonna fuck it up. You know, and Rodney to this day, you know him would never happen. Know the greatest, and let me do exactly what I want to do an edit it exactly the way, I wanted to edit it and the rest became. History. I'll far. So you didn't shoot. Nice man coming for about a year and a half hour that it had nine months later, you know, on New Year's Eve eighty sorta Rodney thing. It's February thirteenth eighty eight. So we'll go into eighty nine so the dice man cometh Ed new jozy eve, eighty nine going into ninety at midnight. You should wasn't before that. Yeah. 'cause it's nine months after the Rodney special because I got walked up eighty eight yet. But that's when I, hey, I got locked up. I think that the roommate showed me the fucking, the special or sorta, Rodney thing because that had a New Year's Eve, and I got out of February eighty nine okay after the Rodney after my special dice, man comet, okay, which had New Year's Eve going into into the next year. New Year's Eve eighty nine ninety I rented out the conference room at the halfway house, and I put your special no you adul- me this got food, and people couldn't believe it. They were blown away them telling you guys get ready for this shit was, how on IMDB as January first nineteen eighty nine. So which means bid. Right, right. Eighty eight going to eighty nine eighty nine going tonight here. Right. I saw eighty nine going into ninety. Okay. Yeah that's, that's when it was. That's crazy because February we're gonna sit here like three dummies trying to figure out a date. So the Rodney thing at February thirteen eighty eight right? Yeah. So it makes sense eight going into eighty nine right? Yeah. Nine months later. So you knew like were you having bad set to that point, like if you had not done. Well, do you think you would have known or, or, or, or do you was that set something so special let you like, okay? I know that's gonna kick ass. The, the set on on run. You know I was prepared. You know, I remember you know, I was so prepared from everything from the material to what I was wearing. The built book was this fucking big. You know it was ridiculous. And I walked from the regency hotel to Rodney Dangerfield club like I told trainee ago, I gotta feel the street, you know, and as a mock, and you can imagine people looking at the sky that look like a superhero walking the streets with the belt buckle. The leather the glasses. It was a whole thing. And I come into the club and Rodney standing there and he goes, how do you feel man, you ready? And I'm winning these stock glasses and I go tonight that pay. Tonight. They get disciplined and he just starts laughing. His ass. Okay. Tonight they're going to pay. All right, man. You got some issues. You know, the way he would you know, he just loved had dead serious. I was like I couldn't give a fuck who was doing that show. You know, one of the first things Joey showed me eight years ago, working together, it's, it's the world of comedy. See this, you know back then, like nobody behind me at all. You know, when I went through the controversy with the news and all that, and journalists, and they would just come down on every comic, and his mother was on fucking television shows that weren't even real shows like they were creating morning shows just to talk about this comic that shouldn't even be allowed to perform. Okay. So I had fucking nobody behind me which leads me to the Roseanne thing, you know, and I was like, so I was never wanted the pack. You know what I mean? When George Slota. Did the the comedy awards for instance, you know? The first year. They're doing the comedy awards. I think that was nineteen ninety and you know who Tim Jones was he passed away Reese, the Blackett. Yeah. No, he did a little while ago. Yeah. Great guy, you know. And we always liked each other, but we never had much to say to each other, we drive to LA Hoya together and Tim would always look at me and goes, which is to talkable motherfuckers, you know, we wouldn't say where, but we just like each other. What did he die from? If you don't know, I don't know what is we'd. Right guy. We haven't seen him since the ten years. We both have a pretty bad drug problem. Now, just a nice guy, man. Nice guy. And this guy comes over to me, so it's the night of the year two thousand. Okay. And that doing the comedy awards, which I wasn't invited to. I was never invited to anything and. I didn't know that having the party for the comedy awards at the comedy store like half the party. Some seeing all these limits up because I said, the training I just wanna get out, you know, go to comedy stuck because bothered me. You know. And it comes Tim Jones over to me at the comedy store and goes why weren't you with the comedy woods? And go wasn't invited and it goes. It's unreal. He goes, how don't they give an award to a guy that has sold more tickets than any comic ever from the day? The first joke was told and they didn't give you an award for that because I was doing eighty thousand people week it was ridiculous. And I had to leave the store when I said at George slaughter because that's what I wanted to do. I want to fucking Slota him, you know, and I came home that night, this is this is kind of fun. Honey? What's not funny. It's actually meeting with these people are night. They wanna do the dice bio pic, you know, and there's a lot of drama in of the Asli these guys that did straight out of Compton, you know, so. So I'm looking around on sitting around this room that in in the house, I had a house in Beverly Hills. So we call the daddies, Dan, where could smoke my cigarettes, make my phone calls to all our tonight. And it's just bugging, the fuck Adamy, you know, all of it, no matter how big I was as a comic. It's just bother me and I go inside and I sit on the bed, and I guess, treaty felt me sit on the bed, and she goes a UA. Right. I was I was you said and just sitting in I go on going back to God. Ago these boys aren't going to grow up without seeing that, and that's it. And she goes, right? When you just, you know, lay down whatever happened, you'll tell me tomorrow, and what ended up happening to go back to God. And this is in two thousand I needed something because I had no heat I was living off my past fame, but as far as like I was done. I was blackballed from the movie industry, the only kind of movies I could do a B movies, you know, and. You know which may be one of them. We'll talk about brain smash with Terry Hatcher that was a special movie and. So I get I get a record deal just to have something to promote, you know, and, and I got the deal, like in two weeks through this producer. And so we put the, the it out, and at that time, I was doing Opie and Anthony, when they were on FM like on the same station stern, but in the afternoon and since I wasn't talking to start at the time I would just do this show. Okay. So my agent calls me up and he goes, right the, the record and he is off the shelves. You know what's the move like, we would always strategize. I go book the garden and it goes, you wanna put the garden, he goes last time you went Westbury did have a house, meaning fifteen hundred people now telling him to book, you know, eighteen thousand but what's going on eat thought, I'm losing it. He goes, don't we do the beacon, and if the beacon sells out, which he didn't think it was, you know, that it would take months to sell it out. He goes, we can move the show to garden. So Dennis, I go the beacons can sell out in twenty minutes. I go you don't understand doing this radio show, because you don't he goes, what why the garden like what's on put ago because my, my sons who had six ten at the time need to see that because it will do something for them. You know, in the long run is how I thought about it. Like something will go in that, you know, like we all looked at our own fathers in whatever way. And it goes, so you want me to call Ron Dell's then book Madison Square, God. And because you need a photo op with your sons. Echo, call whatever you want go, but it will sell out. There's no prop because you're on after noon. Drive. I don't get it. You know. So we booked the beacon like he says, and everybody's taking bets on Opie and Anthony how long it'll take saying twenty minute, it sold them thirty five minutes, beacon theater, which at that time was thirty three hundred seats. So now I call my agent, and he don't know what to say. Because she can't move the show. The beacon owns the. So he calls, Ron delta. And so now, the, the beacons going to be a Tober twentieth two thousand. So he calls up run Rundle's. No. And Dell's, who's legendary promote of which we all know says, look, obviously dice know something we don't he feel something. We, let's put ten thousand seats on sale at the gone, because I sold the beacon, but the only available date was the following Saturday, which is the twenty six now of October. I on sale, we do over seven thousand tickets, which is ridiculous. You know, but then it gets announced that the Mets are going to play the Yankees, and I'm not even into sports, but I know how big a subway series is going to be. The bottom line is I get a cold day of the garden, which trainees them my sons. They're you know they're gonna see this now. You know, it's a Dell's it's run. Dell's. No. And it goes, would you mind if we open up the back, he goes, clean the sellout, you know, so we did the last night of the World Series, the Mets play in the Yankees, we did over fourteen thousand people at the garden and my boys got to sit and now they're Aachen enrollment. Okay. So where I was going with this whole thing was about how even back then just nobody ever stood dealing on that have stood up from a was Eddie Murphy. He did come one time. It came out on senio and talked about how he doesn't give a shit, what anybody thinks he's coming to see me at the amphitheater. And but other than that. All the Jay leno's these fucking jerk off sled them in. Nobody back me up. You know their bad mouth me. I remember coming over to Leno when he said something nasty about me, and I just came out in an interview in penthouse, which I was the first guy ever put on the cover of penthouse, you know, other than Bob Guccione himself, I was the first male on the cover penthouse and it did great. And, you know, came over to, to Leno at that time, and he goes, whoever thought we both get to, you know, we got to go let me tell you something. I knew exactly where I was going. Maybe you didn't go, but I'm telling you, I ever hear you say anything, nasty about me again, I go, you're a guy stood in front of that comedy store with ten years and bullshitted about vintage cars and my old Cadillac. Men, the minute, I made it you wanted open befuddling mouth, I go if I come looking for you again, it's not gonna be any talk involved. Believe me, just keep your. Fucking mouth shut. And I never respected Leno because and it wasn't even me it was his whole reign on the tonight show. He never helped the comedians. You know, he didn't do Johnny Carson did he didn't look to make comics look great and sit down and get them deals. And, you know, when Johnny brought you out if he'd liked you the next day, you gotta deal with the network. You know, he would say, how great you are these guys wanted to sit above look down on you now now let him in on fucking net flicks looking like one hundred and forty five in what the fuck is that looks like he's got, hey, all over his fucking face. Just go to your house and stay in your fucking house. Nobody wants to look at you like that fucking jerk off asshole guy. That's what I think it was kinda guys seriously like picked, you, if you're Johnny Carson, if he walked over to me, I would shake in my boots, and I go so nice. To have met you like whether I was on his show and not it's, it's Johnny Carson who love comedy when Don Rickles was on when Rodney was on when any comic came on costs and he looked at it. This is a moment. I'm on every fucking night for what an hour and a f-, you know, let them shine. Not these this holes. You know, you know, get them on get them off. You know, not how great they are. Honestly, Jay Leno walked out and get the fuck outta him having coffee or, you know, respect. That's what I'd give them because they don't earn it. You know you gotta earn that kinda shit. So now here we will use later. Okay. In Roseanne has little problem, you know, when she was on the fucking Ambien, whatever the fuck it was, which I personally have been on Ambien and been on it, and sixteen seventeen years does make you say shit. It does turn you into characters. It does make you eat every fucking thing in the refrigerator, maybe including shelf until you know what Ambi done. I had a neighbor move out. When I lived in Franklin tower was in it, I, I started going with, with tic TAC tits. You know, Eleanor whatever. And I would love because nobody loves Eleanor more than me. I love so much. I ag- note the tits. Treated those tits like you know how girls get giant tits put on today? That's how I treated those fucking tic TAC tits. Like like, you know she wore a bra like everybody else. But you could take showed off. Maybe one is hanging out like it's almost like if the Bronx could talk it would be saying something like what job? Exactly. You know what I mean? But when I would put those in my mouth, I would open my mouth like I'm putting a fucking watermelon, and I'm young, exactly. You know, make feel great about those fucking to you know, she's going to combing for this anyway, anyway. So I had an apartment of Franklin towers, and you know, five in the morning. Two of the characters that I would become their worlds cross somehow. This Colonel from the marines, and Marvin who was a very streetwise. African American man. I'll say politically. Correct. And like the Colonel is five in the morning would be like you are, in my army son, and you will do ED's told and mom would be like mother fucker. Bullshit, mother fucker go a wall in shit, and he would come because when you're on Ambien and you did this without knowing. No, you gotta understand when you're on Ambien. You ever take Joey, okay? Surprise really gave me one. About six months ago, and I took it and I thought I was gonna start saying racial slurs. The people that's gonna call them names. This is what happens if you lay down and take an Ambien you're going to be out called in five minutes. But let's say by chance, you took the Ambien was fuck. I forgot to make this coal. Now, the ambient takes effect, so you have a sleep, and you have a wake, you know, you just hallucinating on this fucking thing. So that's what would happen to me some in the living room five in the MoMA, the fuck you don't talk to me like bitch, maybe you will be putting the brink you understand. I am a Colonel in the United States on it. You know. So now the lady next door would be leaving notes on the door like I don't know all people, but it has to stop. I haven't slept in two months and as yelling, karnal yelling at Marvin. All of a sudden hit comes on going. She would call them a Marvin. You need to lay down and go to sleep. You have to go to sleep. This is what's going on. You know, I put max to sleep that way. We've been talking about it. Yeah. I go little man you're going to go to school. You ain't gonna wind like me, you know. Shit. I never had the opportunity you had and shit. Amax twelve years old in his bed looking at Marvin laughing, like my father's nuts. So what happened is this woman moved out? Marvin because a mall in the current. And an opponent autograph, actress moved in. The whole apartment Nikki six started dating at the time. It great better better for me. You know, gives a fuck about that lady spin sorta lady that moved out speaking of Eleanor you and her on your Instagram has to be like one of the funniest things will entire world. We on meaning people wanna make show out of it. Now they can't even believe what what goes on with us. It's really let me just finish this, go ahead. Then we go back to Eleanor take no Joey on. People a I'm in so much anyway. So what hap- but she knows that, you know how I feel about them. I don't know whatever I say now is going to be the point is. That's not what sold Illinois to me. You know what I mean? Like when I liked, like I didn't even look at it. It's you know what I mean? Like in a sweatshirt, you see what I mean? It was more of the as no. Because the race was rounded in good way, like like any girl, I go with tits extra. Like I don't I don't hunt if I saw girl with the biggest tits in the world going holy shit. Now she worked by me, and she's got no s ago that girls being punished by God, because, you know to have tits like that face like that in no fucking ask decades. Never get married. That goes going to have to pay their own rent for the rest of the fucking light. Just got. No fucking understand. I don't wanna fuck an EMMY board him saying, I don't want to buy four it. I'll take a big fats, like like anybody. You know, in the tits, extra whatever it evens it out better. Right. You know what I mean? It's a pity on girls without a fat ass. Thank god. They throw an Anson today. You know what I mean? Yeah. But it's probably easier, though, Tim. Right. I'm just saying the girl, Tate's, right. No, I understand. And she's got no way. Look at me when I'm trying to explain it. It's a fucking pity. Right. No. Yeah. Like you get all this chick walking towards me. And then he goes no fucking like look at joing goes. No. Actually write it just goes gotta probably work fucking John's. Just the pay for com. She's probably driving fucking Prius, which sucks. Right. What I mean or mini coupe? Want to talk about cars. The point. I'm getting at when Roseanne I'm gonna lose my trank it of dot. Trank it track that word people know what I mean. My thought pattern. Okay. Roseanne was on like an Ambien whatever and she lost a job whatever. And when I saw that, that really bothered me because I know Roseanne for thirty three years, fringe all these years. And unlike fuck this, you know, and I waited for the right time. And we spoke, I just come to Vegas. I'm gonna bring you on bagels and the miniature came on standing ovation. Okay. Just to standing, I'll coming on and going off. What's great about Harry is he films, everything at the factory. So we got it all, you know, and that's when I was, and I said, I don't give a fuck, I go nobody ever got behind me. Okay. All these fucking comics these fuck and cots up is in 'oughts. And I'm not talking about, you know, I'm talking about the generation before, you know, I know you know, one not bells a you know what I mean. People like that bells would be on TV go, and he shouldn't be allowed to perform them going. He's filthy than may. Yeah, but I took care of him a long time ago on the stern show. Yeah, yeah, that was that was, and I love bells. Did his day. I love them. You know what I mean? I mean, he's you know, he did a great job with SUV would have, you know, the law and order thing, you know, but I'm saying, why would a guy like that going against a guy like me when you're filthy on stage? You know, it's one thing if it was signed, feld who didn't come up against me, you know, because he's smart. And he knows what I would do dice the fucking. Okay. You know, honestly, I've always, I've always loved that crew of Jerry Seinfeld, and Larry Miller, Paul rise, like that's a different kind of clean comedy, and seinfeld's, the best of that, you know, who's going to be better than that. I mean he actually thinks about what he's going to say on stage. That's unbelievable to me. I watch these fucking guys. Go on with the it used to be notepads. Now. It's the iphone let me go over just a fucking thrill. They're so excited. You're up there due to tuna bits and just fucking detain them. I wanna fuck and choke these guys to debt anyway. So when I saw with Rosanna said, I'm not going to be the guy that didn't help, you know, and I called her we're going to do it tour and everybody, you know, manager ragent everybody. So I call my agent pep auto you know who I'm with him and. Dennis foot thirty years. I mean, Pete was a twenty year old when I when, when I was with Dennis it first, and he was mentored by Dennis author. And now he's like one of the greatest come with girsch for, like movies and stuff. But for personal appearance, I've always been other than for like a year or two on and off with, with Dennis off RA. Am people auto peep, being my major agent right now? So I call Pete, and I go, listen, I got an idea. You know, I go I wanna go out with Roseanne. You got a problem handling. Like, would that be good feel you know and my agents, they don't handle comics handle Rockstars. They have like, you know, motley Crue Metallica. Billy Joel just did. What, what does he on sixtieth show at the garden once month? I mean, that's you know that's my other agent. That's Dennis off. That's what used to strategize with me for all the arenas. We did that together. You know. So he's handled, you know, everybody, you know. What's his name pissed away? Would you do what Joe cocker each handled everybody? It's all Rockstars. It's amazing. They probably have, you know, a quarter of the Rockstars in the world. Okay. So I called Pete, and I go would you handle Roseanne? You know and he goes done. I don't know problem with that's the difference. You know. So now going on sale putting a few shows on sale. One is. The paramount to paramount, which is which I got a call today. Go we pick two small fuck and place because it's it's like three-quarters sold out. It's on pre sale. It doesn't even go on sale tomorrow, Friday. So they are holding some tickets for the general public. We met up there to show that, you know, and the Atlantic City, it's, it's hard rock, hard rock live, which is a small Rena, which is also just tickets of flying ready as pre-sales. So I'm like, this is going to be the biggest comedy to, you know, to hit America in longtime, and it's Eleanor, of course. All right. So listen, when you hit it thing about the pin thing, just pay you more money for the shows 'cause Eleanor will open the shows, and then it's Roseanne myself. And maybe we'll do a little something that I just love like what we would dancing when we did the Las Vegas thing I put on this, like crazy song. We've started doing the. Dance whatever question. Yeah. You so line in. Fucking movie stars born. You said a wine that I watched the movie up to that part, and I've seen the movie so many times, HBO. I just watch the beginning. And when you said it, it was coming from dice, you said, so match and it was the story of dice. You said. When lady Gaga goes in the back, Utah, your friends, you know, you know, I knew a thousand guys were better than fucking Sonam out Sigme onto the fucking table. Tanatshai only stated on blue eyes, and that fucking sharks getting suit, and those shoes he became so mattress and all those other guys just went to the waste. Yeah. Just went nowhere. And that's what you knew my. Yeah. You hit the stage. There's no fucking pad as no no pairs. There's no room. Yeah. I just love to perform, like guys actually written in the script that, right? No, not at all that, but that was it written that I did. But not that when you said it, it was just, like, that's, that's a line that he would say no, he can understand because for regular act out of say that line, he would not understand what he'd be saying, because it's you know, it's organic, I you know, it's just organic. You know, have gone through forty how long you doing comedy now when he eight. Yeah, I'm doing it. Forty one forty, you know, like you know, it's like, when I think of like even the arena, days, let's say that's like a different lifetime ago. You know, like when, when I get on Instagram what the black and you hit, I don't wanna be that, you know, I hardly where the lead is anymore like going on in a t shirt and my jeans, you know, 'cause I've seen, you know, you know, I got a little angry with Sebastian for a while, because forget about dice influenced he was doing dice onstage in specials, and, and I love the gun, he opened from years ago, and we're only people open for me. I saw a potential, you know, and even back, then, I'd say it's too dicey, and then through the years, he got dicey, but then he came back to himself and originally, what got me mad at him was when he was on Mark marriage. Been talking and McMahon was asking them about opening for me. And, you know, asking to tell some stories which we have a lot of about hanging with me, and he wouldn't on stories, they went tell anything and I'm like, you know, the fuck is this, you know, it took you wonder my wing, so it got me it started getting angry and then comics would get angrier go, and he's like dice light when he's up there, you know with the leather jacket and but before he did the garden, which he did four nights, which is unbelievable. You know, I do love the guy. So when he went on the Howard Stern show and, and stirring, question them about me, he entered starring the right way. So I wrote a whole thing on Instagram about how great the guy is and, and to him like with you, you know, like I wouldn't want him to think like I wasn't behind them because there have been other comics now like Bill Burr has talked to me about the influence, I was in his life, and how he saw me at. Boston, the Boston Garden. And I think the Boston centrum and bills, one of the funniest you know that and he you know he plays drums. And when I was doing the arenas, I would end with a giant drum solo. I would play it to like an eight piece band. So I would do the Elvis thing I would do Travolta thing to grease lightning. I would even do some songs on. I would love won't. Let me wait by Luther Vandross, just with a keyboard player, and then I would do soul sacrifice with the band from Santana and go into a big drum solo. So Bill, I saw him. He was filming Bill Burr presents which Eleanor did a spot on for comedy central so went to taping and I'm going, I want you to play the drums onstage. She does I won't do it because that's what you did. But I also did arenas in doing that, you know, supply drums. If you wanna play the drums, come up with you one night, we'll do a double drum solo, you know, but I loved the influence, I brought, and I you know, when I was doing the arenas, I didn't think that others will ever going to do it. Like, you know, you gotta be a certain kind of Performa to be able to tend to taint twenty thousand people get myself that my whole life. I didn't study comics, I studied Elvis. That's the way studied, Elvis, buddy rich like the greatest of the greats. So when I made it I knew how to perform, you know, and but, but other comics have come along Joe Rogan. He's still in arenas. You know, you're doing big theaters, you know, Chapelle zone it, but I love, you know Kevin Hart is spoken about me in detail about what I did for him. You know, like when I'm thirty years old, I'm thinking about a guy that, you know, you know, two years old. Ten years old going, I wanna be that. But that's who I was watching Elvis, do the sixty comeback special. When I was twelve you know, going oh, could be that, but and I didn't mean as a singer, just the whole image of that person. And that's what I became an stand up and now 'cause so many comics all wearing leather jackets on stage. I'm going fuck that off on something else. You know because I've always said a trend. I don't I don't follow. I can't have every other comic way in a motorcycle jacket on stage and be going up with the motorcycle jacket. So I went to t shirts cut him out. You know, cut him a certain way, and, and trust me, it's it's a lot easier because some of my leathers weighed like twenty pounds Jesus. How's it all together? You got a couple hundred I have. Although still yeah, I have a mall now. And then I'll give a leather. Away like one if I like somebody, I'll give them like that were in concert, but not like dice rules, the dice, man cometh or the MTV. I have all of that stuff. Yeah. You don't get that for my son's you know, you don't get that stuff away. You know it's funny how. Richard Pryor introduce me comedy. Dangerfield made me thought about doing comedy and you Bush me over the edge, you push me. That's coal thing. You push me. It's like I knew once I saw you let me know I could do it. You will let me know why you were shooting you could do this. That's you know, which liked by flou- for the late. Yes, I plan in your ass. All that stuff was what I was thinking. So at first I was pissed if like the first week this motherfucker stole, my shit don't even know. Many stole my shit round my fucking head. Let straight, it's straight Yuma. So it was so relatable to me. And then I, I showed everybody would listen. It was that type of campaign like anybody who would listen, my, my in-laws from buffalo Catholic. I'm having my father in law in the room with the door locked for canal fucking Howlin. It's okay. Crazy. Do you have dates for this special anywhere for the store yet? Well, they go on sale tomorrow. I'm only putting this is what's nuts just should've released like twenty dates, but you know, they'll be more next week. You know, 'cause these just these are going to be sold out tomorrow, you know, and like I said, one of them, you know, is a cut down arena, and, you know, when my agent called me today goes, the pre sales ridiculous. You know, that's exciting news, because I want this to be giant because like I said, I just didn't like them, squashing this girl who's entertained millions of people, a whole adult life. And because, you know, we're living in a world where you just say something, and you lose a career, not even do something you say something, and you being held accountable. You know, when pe-. People are getting off of murder, you know, they're walking. But yet you said something and everybody oh, they shouldn't. They shouldn't be on TV. You know, so I was like fuck that we're going to, you know, you know, like, you know, and that's why the name is so great Mr. and MRs America, you know. And I look at it like making America laugh, again, because people, you know, mediocre has become the new, great, my son, max told me, he goes like when I watch these comedy specials like I'll give it up. If somebody's great, I wanna laugh, my bowl to I'll be honest when I watched a bring back Sebastian again, and I hope his this, because I watched him it was at Radio City musical was his last special. And I sat there with my son Dylan laughing like an idiot because, now, you know, it's hard to watch someone if you pissed off at them and you haven't talked to him about it. You know. So like once once my mine. Mind was cleared. And I heard how we spoke to how it and it was a little great. And even said something about me in Hollywood reporter, like a week ago like on, you know, I was childhood heroes. So that's shitty should have been saying, Maron, just say it, what's the big deal, you know. So, so we watched him at Radio City, and I'm going sterile and he was being himself. You know what I mean? That's what I loved. He liked came back to his voice like you know, what I'm talking about money on stage. You know, and I go, so I paid the guy in k. But now you turn on a comedian and he's doing it. Exactly like going. What are you when impersonator that would make me angry? And I got every right to get angry at that. But when I see the guy come back to himself because fame as a funny place when you start getting famous and, you know, about it now, when all of a sudden you walk through a mall people fucking no. You would a movie theater and people. Okay. Get a picture with you. It's a funny place to be, you know, so everybody goes through different things when they become famous and how how much fame, so I I'm a guy that I think handled it pretty good because I never became reclusive I go by myself everywhere, I carry a pipe. You know what I mean? I don't need a team of security when I have a pipe in our people see the pipe wrapped around my wrist. They. Maybe he doesn't wanna take a picture. Got a fight with his chick right now. You know, just doesn't look like he's a picture, taking guy at this moment, it's got to foot pipe with a leather strap around his wrist, so, but I'm saying, I always people used to ask me, you actually bring your own cleaning and go to the gross. Like I never understood that when you become reclusive, it's the worst thing because you can't go back from that you, you know, what are you going to reteach yourself, how to be amongst people owing to sit at a coffee shop new sit around all of frayed like an asshole. I remember corn Howard Stern. This is great. The we went house on thing. Which he regretted people always regret. Hanging with me. Always thrilled to meet me, and then it gets to the point where they say things like I'm sorry. I ever said a loaded sky understand. You know, but the first time they meet you, it's an honor and then it gets out. Then it's four in the morning calls. You know what you doing? What do you mean what am I doing? I'm sleeping you know what would I be doing it for thirty AM? I gotta get up in an hour for shoot. You know, echo put your up already. You never finished army to story about like one time I called Daniel Baldwin right? And I don't know he's in New York fuck do I know where he is? And. And it was five in the morning. You know, and I go, what are you doing? Any goes dice. I gotta get up in an hour go. Yeah. But you now you're up, you know. So you would tell me the story, you met the red headed girl. And it goes can't we do this another ton Cup. What you're all right. You're not going to be able to go to sleep. If we talked, you know, so we might as well bullshit, a half hour, and then you go some hanging, the phone of dice, you'll have to hear about the redhead another. All right. That's up to you. But don't call me back. Once you can't sleep. Don't call me back and hang up. But you to never call them again. I mean, I've seen him since they won't. Talk late at night. You gotta call make. It. So I go house hunting, how it stern. This is like around I wanted to live on the east coast because they couldn't get my parents to, to move out here. So I wanted to be around family that was, you know, it was overwhelming do what I was doing. So. He takes me house, hunting, and Long Island. He gets a real estate agent. And if you know, I'm always filming the video camera while you filming a why not, why can't what are you what, don't fill me. Well, why not your who I'm with, you know, and then if we pull up to a house that I didn't like the outside the woman would get out, and I, I'm not going. He goes, can't you just go in? She made the appointment you know, I don't like the outside. So there's no reason to. It's a waste of time. I'm lying. I go in. Let me go Tele. So he goes, and we do the whole house on thing thing. Then at the end of the day, he goes, let's get something need. I go. Yeah. Let's go to Dina you know, go on. He goes, I get this great little talion place, we go downstairs. I go how it's one the after noon. I don't wanna go to talion place. I want to go diner and have a Berga and nobody's going to bother us. You got understand this wasn't the Howard Stern, you know that became big throughout the whole country. You know, he was only big really, you know, probably New York Philly he was building. So I get him to Dina which is empty, by the way. Nobody there other than the waitress and at the end she has for both their autographs. It wasn't the cell phones. We gotta stand there now. And then they go came out blurry go fuck yourself, taking him other one. That's it. I'm leaving. So it was just autographs. And then I called him about an hour later, I went to kings plaza shopping centre in Brooklyn where I had an apartment in Brooklyn. Not even a house in a brick building. Okay. And I call them up I go, how do you know where am right now? Reclose go. I mean kings plaza buying black jeans financial Coliseum. Nobody's bothering me. Don't just stay in don't become reclusive. It's, it's just not a good thing. If you don't know how to walk out of your house by yourself. You know, I don't like guys like axel a reclusive. It's like what good is any of it. If you can't just go United just gotta get out. I don't need a team with me. I don't need a bunch of people looking around pulling up and fucking SUV's. I want an nice coughing. I wanna slurpee. You know, I don't need a team I need my car. I need me and I need the pipe that's it without a team that you're unnoticed, without a team, you know, this, you walk in, you people don't even know you're gonna seem you some all over the place. People don't even throw on a baseball hat, people have no idea. Yeah. I standard table losing hundreds of thousands, nobody even notices of than the casino beautiful. You lost hundreds of thousands of us. Don't you know exactly look at the life, I get to lead. That's why could lose one hundred grand get on stage. You'd never you'd think one hundred grand. Yeah, I've the gambling and the my life was I quit now. So I don't gamble now. But yeah, I've gone. I've lost a half a million to clip one half a million at a clip in minutes. This isn't like how much you've been a hand. Well when when those kind of plays would happen. I'd be playing all six bucks at, like ten grand a hand cheese. So let's say you just lost one in their sixty thousand. Yeah, but let's say you get a winning hand a couple black jacks, a couple double downs. You win one hundred thousand a minute hope. Yeah but you don't play with what you don't have. You can't have fear when it comes to gambling, because that's all it is, is you take an chance, so you gotta have brass balls. And you've got to be willing to lose not win lose everything in front of you to win. That's the only way you do. One anybody playing scared is gonna lose always in life at anything. You know, if you go on a stage and you don't open up you never gonna make it, you know, if you have frayed the crowd you never gonna make, you know, they were rules of engagement with everything, you know. Same thing with bang, bang into a fucking Haro gives a shit. You know she can't take this kind of banged. She shouldn't be my cheque. Right. You know what I mean? With everything you just do the best you could with everything. That's all I look at life Andrew, you fucking beauty. What, what a philosophy of? These people wanna go is going to be a website for Mr. and MRs America. It's on sale. It's onset, you could call them. Who are they live nation? No, not loving nation. Might be the paramount theatre man to these the, the, you know, the hard rock and not exactly it's going to be more on sale now because this is just this is estimating quickly quicker than I thought it was absolutely. You know, Roseanne ready around. Yeah. She, we were on the phone the other night, all excited, she's complete because she did a couple of shows already this, this month and just on her own just to get a feet wet, and she got standing those and you know she loves it, like we love it. You know. And she's always been a great, great comic. I was talking about how, you know, years ago when people would heckle her. She's the first girly of sore look at somebody in the crowd, and go suck my. Tuck and dick, you know, and this is a woman. We've had some fun to, you know, she's that was one time I went gambling with Roseanne when I was doing the dunes, like I could do the dunes comedy star Michi winning believe me till I would show like the money or the chips inbet- fifteen hundred week when I did the comedy store at the Doon so tell this before my career took off. You get one hundred set. It did fifteen sets the week. So in between sets go out when twenty thirty thousand I would take like two hundred bucks, just Paul lay and just win. And go back to do my next show. The comics would come to Mitzi. It's even wanna see that she didn't want she want to gender thumb. That's how she was. That's just, you know, she loved being the mother of the comics, whatever. So she'd tell like who. Whatever comic would run back to the dice just one thirty thousand dollars in between no Eden, no wait in a comeback Mitzi. What's this fake? I go of why would I lie about it took two hundred dollars? Just beat them. That's all a big deal. Commonsense makes you win. Stupid sense makes you lose. That's it. You either on your game rough game that you'd go headed. You do that. I go, I don't even know. I just know how to do it. It's one time with kennison you're gonna love this because. He always had a thing with me because, you know, he wasn't a shop looking guy. And I was that's the bottom line, you know, and it was always the two of us on late at night at the store, and I loved the guy, you know, like I was thrilled when he made it but he couldn't handle my success, because I made his success look like he was a club comic. You know, I'm doing two nights at the garden and he's, you know it didn't matter anymore with him. That's what happened. So we're doing so tell and he's already making I'm I'm doing well making it as an act of because I was doing the Michael Mantua crime story. So it was almost like a showdown in the middle of the casino. And the one thing that's very real about me onstage off, is my confidence. It's just there. So we meet in the middle of the casino. He's coming from the front door. And he was dating Tamayo at sukey at the time and I'm a training, we've been dating, like, I don't know what year so we meet in the middle of the casino. It's just this face off. You know, he's like how you doing this? You know, going, great just killer show. Yeah. When some money because, you know, you're going to win. I always win Sam that anything do go, I'll show you. This is true Trini, if she was sitting here, she get out. Kinda watch this trick. And there's a slot machine. Right. He'll say, okay. So take ten bucks. I go watch this, and I put the ten in, you know, and it just play for the whole amount a big wishing right? Ten thousand dollars right there. Then that's what I'm talking about. I always fuck him when and he I thought he might pass out because the look in his face was like decision movie like a setup in a movie, where guy walks over puts him one dollar and wins all the ten thousand dollars, just right there with the bill's going off the money fallen out. It's who I am. You know. Vice your fucking savage. Like that took the fog in time. I'll always do your show. I always love it. I've been sitting here and all. Happy that I followed you leave is here. I am. Because the Yuba well, I'm you know, I talk about a lot 'cause I'm really proud of what you're accomplishing and keep building on, you know, it started feel like about five years ago, as far as your Bill, you know, you know, and I hear it all because Kate opens for me sometimes. So we'll talk about you, our Lord Eleanor. Hey, I'll yell at one. We're on the road like it gets to the point that I'll go do you know anything about the history of comedy? You know, like I'll get mad at high go as Joey about, like, I'll tell like upon my history that sounds like unreal. I go just as Joey, right? Because he knows it all he, he's e- cmih, do what I go. What do you think his his an example, I'm playing some club in Arizona. And when Eleanor can't do the gig. I have Kate do. And I don't wanna I don't wanna bring money but she told me like what you charge at the door. I go really I go, I think he should do more. You know, it's travelling across the country. Whatever she goes, what are you charge? I don't know. At least fifty you know, go to club, so they need to make money to afford me, you know, it's three hundred seats, whatever the fuck it, and she got no charge. So I go, and I don't even know what that charge so little while later with the manager at a club, I go, and with Kate and I go can you tell me ago because I care like this is what I'm getting for the weekend. I'm all good with it. Okay. How much charging the door because, well, you know, the, the golden circle seventy five around the stage. And then, you know, general admission's fifty five you know, she goes, no goes dead dice. So I'll always say to her, because I know you closely go. Yes, Joey knows my whole history. You don't know anything, you know, you're too, busy, just taking pictures. You know what I mean? You should. Learn opening for it might be good, you know, so yell at her about that stuff. But you've funniest I've stood when we're going to see Ford fucking family in the movie then in pain. So I know the foot. That's what I'm saying. See, she doesn't know this stuff. She'll bring up deny you were on CNN with. Yeah. What ninety million hits something like that. You know, when I again, CNN Fokin in his mouth so newscast. I don't I it's not ninety million, but it's millions of hits that, that God, you never heard from that guy again. Oh, the one that you stop the interview. Yeah. When he goes you running a gym. This is CNN. Running a gym with flux. You get your information and that was it. Once I curse now I'm gonna destroy the gun. I mean. I mean, but that's why. But I'll be honest with all the movies and all that. You know that's all great. And I actually get bored on a movie set I hate the waiting around. I can't take it even come over to Bradley when we were doing the stars on that scene. You were talking about with the sing people under the table, you know, Sinatra with, and I went you wanna get out of here, ready. You know. You know. He's looking at me go, what do you mean get at we'll filming a scene. How much you're gonna film looks to me like you got it. You know what are you going to film, the toaster? Now, you gotta get the fuck out of here, coffee assume. It's done. Like you know how much I know you knew what this shit. But, like howling wanna hang around here. You know it gets really boring. To me, you know. 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ALN - Christina Pazsitzky

About Last Night

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ALN - Christina Pazsitzky

"Hey, that's us. Cleveland Brown and y'all listening to the about last night podcast. I guess you TV must be broken. Just kidding. Actually. I'm not kidding. You bowl. What today's episode of the abou-? Last night podcast is brought to you by casper mattress. The best way to sleep the coolest most comfortable slickest way to sleep. Casper mattresses are revolutionizing the way you get your sleep. Right. It's a company that makes mattresses here in the USA with just the right amount of sink just the right amount of bounce and a breed -able design that regulates your body temperature through the night. Go online, it's easy. It's delivered to your door for free that rules, free shipping and free returns the US and Canada if you don't like it because you get a risk-free hundred day trial. What are their mattress company does that? If you don't like you can send it back, but you're gonna love it Bradina got one, and we fricken love it. 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I will be at Haina's in Dallas Thursday, January thirty first through Saturday, February second can't wait first time Dallas hyenas, get tickets at Adam rate comedy dot com. Brad Williams, we'll be at red rock casino in Vegas Friday and Saturday, February first and second in Vegas, go. See Brad tickets. Brad Williams comedy dot com about last night podcast dot com for past and present episodes, all your AOL and merge. Shop atom Ray dot com for all your atom Ray. Merge. Got beanies coming up, and some pins. So that'll be great. I think you can pre-order them right now at shop atom dot com. Go to my website, adamant, comedy dot com and get all that jazz. Today's episode is an unbelievable episode. She's one of the co host of your mom's house your mom's house podcast. She's a killer stand up specials net. Flicks all over the place touring nonstop. She's a a beast and I've known her for a while. And just the sweetest funniest person. You could you could ever want to be around. It's Christina Posad ski oh shit. Her and Thomson. Do your mom's house podcast. It truly is one of the best podcasts out there, Brad. And I both done it. Go back and listen to those episodes after you've listened to this episode where she crushes mommy's are going to be very pumped for this episode the kept at high and tight baby. So enjoy this one follow Christine on Twitter at Christina p the Christina peon Instagram. Comedy on Instagram. Brad Williams comic at Allen podcast. So the tour dates said the merchantville little early Shiro season two drops on Netflix, April twenty-sixth, make sure you check that out. Of course, I play swift wind. She was talking horse. That's able twenty six season to net flix sheer up. American mainly will still out there. Second act. I'm in go see that a lot of fun shit coming up a lot of great episodes. Coming up got Nikki Glaser, we've got Brian Friedman. We got Craig Ferguson Kelvin Coleman Marcellus Wiley, Ron funches makes you subscribe on. I tunes and rate five stars comment on the items page a review on the I tunes page after you give five star rating helps us climb the charts rights, also get soundcloud Spotify YouTube, of course, has all the episodes. So enjoy that. Now, they've got the tour dates Twitter handles in merchantville out of the way, sit back relax and enjoy a brand new episode of the ballot last night podcast with very funny, Christina position s-k-y. Tattoo. Chad. Got a lot of shoes. Listen to. All right. And. Tab of the day. So come on drew you to sell. It's about last night. I took the. Too much pot, brownie. And and I texted maybe an hour and a half later. Hey, man, I'm I've been tap dancing on my patio from last twenty minutes. So that my heart wouldn't explode. Thanks for the brownie. Almost took myself to cedar Sinai. Yeah. You don't do pot brownies or bad. Yeah. See I wish I see you said tap dancing. And I wish that was some of the side effects of drugs. Sure, you share you have a Asians. But I I wish it's like, yeah. But but I also got really good at carpentry like like anybody who does meth. I had an ex boyfriend that a lot of math. Yeah. And he got really good at collage making. A furniture rewrite. I didn't catch on forever. Like every week. He'd rearrange all the furniture L. Like, I want to drugs. They finally looking up your collage game. Try met. Try met of your furniture, always being in the same place. Tired of not granting your teeth enough in the middle of the afternoon. Tea math, like, you know, we're we're we're we're getting to the point now where yes weed weed is legal in in a lot of places, and eventually, I'm guessing that pretty much all the other drugs would be legal. But will there be will there be commercials for it? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. They'll be great to which I mean fast and great bit already commercials are pretty much. You know, those not cost you near. What's the Taco Bell wants Jack in the box? Really? I literally did everything but hit a Bong. I mean, he was right. You talk for ninety nine cents is a yeah. So this is a drive through. He's like oh shit. Can I get some peanuts? Yeah. So what was the rolling? Okay. Okay. Sweet we speak of your Xs Colossians comedian so much like this is how we normally. So I never find. Yeah. We don't want that. I mean like like you and Tom on your podcast or very chill relaxed there. There's no like button you hit where you go. Like, hey. So that's so great that we saw at the barbecue last week. We're coming here. Live radio. I had to do. I refused. Did you ever see bread when he was in radio in San Fran? No. But I can tell you guys both have amazing voices for this. Thank you. Yes. Kantha compliment so masculine. I mean, you sound like a guy who can afford candles candy. You guys are very romantic. Set the mode shoes off to you must be no not at all cross-legged podcast, by the way, the series comfortable. We should quickly. Mention your mom's house podcast is fucking genome. Ass- is watching video of your new studio, by the way, made me so jelly. I can't you know, one believable. It's something else. I tell you what you know. I don't know if you know this. But mcdonald's. The show, and then we painted it yellow and red, and you know, I'm going to let the drama unfold. Okay. But it's been quite an interesting story. So you get like quarter pounders for life for free. If you've watched this week's episode, we've got just a mountain of free stuff. Did you have how many hamburgers did you have? All the hamburgers football team. We had peer or college student. So I decided to give them hamburgers. See that. He pronounced twit. Yeah. And then took it down the wrong and Burger King McKinley Burger King tweeted, Trump and said sorry to an enormous amount of hamburgers that were ordered. We're only serving hamburgers now. All game. Burger King us putting you on blast. And it's like a good one Burger King and Wendy's both have strong Twitter nasty to give the players all of that shit. At once do like, nobody eat don't mix. John one bad choice not five together. Also, they're all playing football. Yeah. That's already bad choice. Their heads are all they had been somewhat disappointed. You go into the fucking White House, man. Like you're expecting. You're probably on the way over fantasizing about like some of the insane orders like probably watermelon with cottage cheese, and you know, Butler's Butler's, and he's like, here's your Big Mac ass. Congrats on the achievement double decker fuck off. Yeah. Oh, here's here's the same thing. You get at the one restaurant. That's next to Clemson. Yeah. North Carolina, South Carolina. That's all there is. I heard the White House isn't as glamorous as you think it is. Because I read that like a Roach problem a rat problem. It's run down. It's like not. It's supposedly not as great as it looks on the outside. This is why he wasn't living there for so long, dude. I mean. Lago, whatever the the White House. Why would they is it just a keep like, we gotta keep the president honest. And like, yeah. So so so have a cockroach next to him when he sleeps, but your mommy's are in full force. Too. Thank you for being here door, you guys. And I love it you to her friends how did this develop like the friendship? Well, I mean, we we met in we met in the lights off org, and I turn the lights on because I was like. Yeah. Small is his hand. And what is it attached? Yeah. Because like you want to make sure like is that a kid? I'm fucking. Oh, midget, Saturday was to see that. It wasn't. Fucker guys done group sex. Do you answer that question? Yes. Like snow together. But I have walked in on Bradley, and I think vice versa with what with groups of peop-. Nice to have we used to do shows the Bray improv when I would feature for my place his place. He just knows a lot of people and a lot of people that that enjoy very openminded just when people come through. And look when I saw Brad, you know, I'll be the first of all like, I think missing Brad was probably more exciting than him seeing me. He's like. Oh, yeah. You Doggystyle before? But for me, I was like, oh, I'm making a wish tonight in I did not see I didn't know that you could go that fast like watching that right duty, Al, and it was magical high. I fuck like rabbits fast and scared. It's an image. You can't get out of your head is are animals. You're on these apps you're doing that's how you met your lady these wild apps the three way app field. So yes, outgoing I'm not outgoing. I just realized this. We had Lisa traeger on our show this week shoes. Talking about apps and Laura jeez. And stuff. To generate jenner's this raid you too so we're all yes. Crazy sexual past. I'll tell you why. Because I grew up in the eighties. I was a kid of the eighties. When aids happened and everybody it, and my mother would be like everybody has aids you're going to die from aids. And then I went to college was Japanese. You do which you tell people you do. So I went to school in San Francisco, which is coupled with you know, was aids epidemic in guys doing crystal meth, and but fucking in you know, Jesus so you. Not in your boyfriend's straight up. There is always like bisexual news. So you never have. This. Phase dude in college like kind of but I was always a monogamous slut. Yeah. I think I built for marriage, quite honestly, I'm very boring, and I like I like sameness I like watching our shows. And so so so all the things that like all the things like a single motion connection. Yeah. But it's working intimacy. Tommy how g. Now, I know that finger. Is what's the adulterers away in Jamaica? That's we met him. Adam leaves everything they used to be a segment of the show called what will Adam believe because I'm so gullible. Am I? Yeah. And I think it's just 'cause I'm trusting and also some people are great actors and that was a great performance. I'm very put out an aerial. Did you? Okay. So we met at a comedy club the cat club. I don't know if you ever did that one out started by that. Yeah. It was a bringer show. And I was smoking a cigarette. And I was just bad attitude on sunset right yet. One of the guys in the stray cats used to own it those story, and then a director of cats the music. How terrible is cats seen that horse shit? We'll never see it. Oh god. I will buy a second my pillow before I go and just to give you some backstory. I one garbage my pillow, Mike Lindell, the fucking it's on me for taking relaxation tips from crackhead like this guy creed even started with and I'm like, hey, what other advice you got forgetting sleep. Like this thing is so bad. Is this the pillow? That's been advertised you put your arm through it is. No, no, no. This is my Bill former crackhead and now he's a billionaire and. Yeah. And he's with my pillow Minnesota, and it's like, it's the most comfortable pillow. You've ever had lies is the most comfortable is that my pillow. Yeah. I don't know Kate again, he used to sleep on feet under freeways, I know. What comfy feels like clay? But I'm gonna buy it. It says the Adnan fill that. If you start talking about the patent it fills one of those commercials that does the job is it purple is that the fucking thing. Sorry curse on the show. Do whatever you want. Yes, everything. Yeah. Okay. So you met Tommy the comedy the cat club. And I he was twenty three and I was twenty six and he's just new to LA, and he was such a man like Thomson girl was never young. Do you know? A thousand percent. He was born seventeen. No. He was he was born -lica- Forty-five. Yeah. He's got a very he's got a I feel like his I you can probably test. This his musk is probably very manly. Right. He looks like he could be Jack pounds. His brother all the time. Like younger brother in Cologne commercial hundred percent, and he's very hairy. Very macho you like that. I loved him. He was So, Jerry. Gary. And so the hair didn't bother busy. No, he's Peruvian American. Do they get along proven? Gary's Hungarians hate. Everybody guaranteed. Hungary's? Gary hungary's. Yeah. Nowhere where I don't know. I can't speak for them. But I don't I personally am not interested to cultures rough because the Russians kind of took it over annexed central Europe. And it's just it's hard to be nice to people when you don't have bread and. And. You know what I'm saying? Like everything's kind of miserable except for the food. Sure. Not that. It's that way now. But anyway, he's a superman and I just loved him. And he was always funny. Tom Sawyer was one of those guys. We're all open mic at the time. And he's just funnier than all of us. And I remember looking and be like this motherfucker is going to blow up. This is hit this shit. You could tell new kinds. Thomson God damn winter. And I knew he was a winner. And I don't know how to say the word is winner. Like, he just had a good attitude was positive. He talked to act right? If I was kind of a wild dog we met and he trained me to be like a civilized person. I breakdown wild dog for me because I think of wild hogs, the two bolts h Macy movie, and I'm like where you that wild eyed haven't seen middle aged man riding a motorcycle going through midlife crisis. Yes. No, I just didn't do stuff right like immigrants don't do shit. Right. For like, you know, what I mean? Like my. Saying immigrants don't do shit. Right. You don't you? Don't you get your car insurance from some little Chinese guy in L Hambro in a weird? You know, what I mean like you when your tires you need new tires. I got a friend the Romanian guy down the street who can you know, it's always shady, it's shifty stuff. So he taught me how to pay taxes and go to a proper dentist and do shit role. Huge like America doing a bang-up job because. As we were walking in. You looked at the thing outside and said, oh, that's a Pergola is that. Right. And you know, the difference between a Pergola in a gazebo. So you classiest fuck now, you'll know the difference because you make word I do too is your wife and all she teaches all that stuff. Yeah. Yes. So now, so now we're both civilized animal before you married her. Did you have a mattress on the floor? Like, my husband with no frame never had that. So someone gave me some great advice when I was young like spend money on your TV spending money on your bed. It's the best advice you'll ever get did Mike Lindell give you that advice to my pillow guy. Yes, you're right. That is a big move. And because I guess it just that makes you enjoy your place of home, right sleep. How many hours a day every day? That was the first thing. I did when I got when I started to when I want to quit universal series. When I got fired from you. Yeah. They said hand in your claws and your fake apps. Wolverine no longer lives here. I know they didn't. But it was very sad. And I got very combative with one of my bosses because it was so fucked up. Yeah. That more. How did they? Is there any good way to get fired though? Like, it always been fired. Tons. No kidding. I had twenty two jobs in four years before he became a comedian. What I was fired from. I'd say half light. What's like what kind of jobs? Do you name it? I have worked at universal. I think I looked into that it you would have been a great Princess Fiona that right? Oh, yeah. I love her. Yeah. I like that Shrek. I did that was one of the ones you had to say I like that. And just walk around saying that and everyone's like is that from the movie? She doing mess. So I was like I worked in a cannery. I I worked as a parking lot attendant, you know, those booths that people say it's actually kind of a great job. I mean, you just of sit there you sit there you can read you can smoke cigarettes, right jokes. See your friends get high. That's a great job. All you do is walk into building say ten bucks. Yeah. Dude. So easy, right. PA? AIP on a ton of wasn't it. I waitressed. I was a cocktail waitress. I worked Formosa. The mustache cafe used to be across the street from the improv Kerr French dining I worked there. I was terrible at that. Enjoy what about the service industry appealed to you money. Yeah. You're you're so sweet and personal right? Iraq it up. Yeah. Yeah. No. I had a degree in philosophies. What happened, and I graduate all those high paying philosophy jobs out there. That's so interesting to me though, because going into it you'll probably like fuck Yemen and get this degree, and then we thinking of like life as in philosophy. And then like when did it switching go, wait. I actually don't want anything to do with. This happened was in order to convince my immigrant parents to pay for my college. It was a degree in philosophy had the promise them. I was going to go to law school, and that was going to be the trajectory, and I went to law school and after about two weeks. I was like this isn't for me. And I dropped out and it was an eight thousand dollar mistake. I believe in combination. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I couldn't do it. My soul is dying slowly excuse me. And then I became a paralegal on immigration paralegal no-show is pretty cool pre-nine eleven so I got to bring a lot of people in this country. So we. Did a ton Shane, but I needed to do that to get to comedy find that you have to live a life. Yeah. And you have to have stories to have experiences because how I mean because now you can talk about, you know, don't you hate it? When at your job, you're asked to blame because you had that. Oh, and if you haven't worked in customer service, you're not a fucking person everybody shot. After multiple times I worked in customer service booth at albertson's, a grocery store or two and a half years. Why haven't talked about the stories that I have is? I mean, I could do a whole hour on albertson's. And maybe I will tell me everything. What's the biggest complaint? You get. What's what I mean? I'll just give you one real quick. A woman came in. Once we had an ape Lasota machine outside the store, right which sold. Separately, coal is like the like the knockoff of coke. But it's sure. Plus like, if Trump could get his hands on it. He would. It's like it's actually D-plus. But it's they're selling it because it was a quarter. I sorta and then every flavor God bless him. You know, lemon lime root beer cherry cherry bear. Like just all sorts of fun. And this woman comes in with about I don't know twelve dollars in quarters that she had spent on excuse me with a bag of sodas, right all different kinds, but not lemon lime. She'd worn lemon lime. She comes in while I was other shows that weren't them in line. And she goes just drops them on the counter and their counter. I look up I go oh shit. She goes, I just spent twelve dollars in corners trying to get a lemon lime eight let soda and I did not get it. I want my money back, and I look at all sorts like holy shit. And I I just assess Amelia ago. Well, this is bullshit. You definitely should have gotten lemon lime. I also love lemon. I it's one of my favorite eight-plus. Should he knock up sort of flavors? So I feel you on that. That's a you wanted that. You didn't get it. Didn't maybe like at seven dollars in quarters. You think to yourself? I'm probably not getting lemon lime today. And she. Owes. You calling me stupid. And I mean, you just seven when he eight that's eight times you put in the water. She was wrong. So to came out. Let's try again and kept rolling the dice. And then boss comes or what's going on? Because she's screaming hate calling me stupid for not getting lemon lime. I'm like, that's not you just you put in a lot of quarters you buck and couldn't put it together. My like shot up gives her all the money back and the sodas like opens it up gets eliminate lime. Customer's always, right. Fucking. You. Gotta be nice. I'm like, I was being nice, but she's fucking dumb. We don't wanna ready to shop in any way. He's like, what are you talking about comedy? Komen dowdy we're like a bag would noodle. Mike kick them out. We don't want him here. Anyway. But yeah of the club owners like well, no. But they bought two drinks in that sixty dollars that we need that. The thing is though it's that woman's mentality of hope that things like the lottery gummy grad. Right. I like it. This is the one man it'd be me twenty dollars forty dollars because if I put in a quarter, and I want lemon lime soda and grape soda comes out go. All right. I guess I'm drinking ribs. Guess yourself by Philoctetes grape day. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's a great day. It's a win. Yeah. Your chest. You still have a grape soda. I'm not person. That's that nurses saying to mand lemon lime. And by the way, this is a soda machine that charges a quarter soda, and you're going to get upset about the way that it functions. Like getting like there used to be a palm reading place for ten dollars next to Pink's while used to live, and I'm like for ten bucks. They're going to read a psychic reading ten bucks. And I'm like you can't walk out of the upset. They're saying they can read your mind for ten bucks or ten. Yeah. Also, have you ever done one of those canzone? Yeah. Actually had a woman give me a massage at Burke Williams a little bit higher. Just a little, mommy and me. I'm good good. Thank you. I I'm a Susan Burke Williams, I was like six months postpartum with my first, son. And she's massage me. And she goes, I don't know if you're if you want me to tell you, but I had some psychic visions while I was giving you. And I was like, of course, I want to know. Yes. Yeah. I encourage the crazy yet. I put my hand on your uterus thoughts were well, she also gave me Rakyat ever have that had done. It's infuriated this. What's fucking hate it? It's nothing they put their hand over a shock rot like this. And then you get angry because he wants someone to just massage you doing. So it's bullshit. It's toll side. Anyway. Okay. So she goes, I see I see you having another son. I go no way no way. She was blonde hair blue eyes, baby. Boy. And that's my second son Julian is blind. And I never at the time. I name him after. Name him, Burke Williams. Berquin beck. William you'd have to get some sort of discount. If you did that, right? I. Yeah. Yeah. It. It's like that person that name their kid golden palace casino just for twenty thousand dollars or something. Yeah. Like, yeah. It was like for not enough money to name your kid gone. The lady got like a tattoo on her forehead for like twenty grand. Yeah. Do that shit. That's great. That's that's literally. Maybe the only reason why I want to get rich is just so I can go up to people and be like, hey, how much did that too? So. My name on your four. You'll become like what NASCAR drivers have in the suit just tattooed on your body. Yeah. Exactly. How sad you'll be. When someone does do you're like, sad or no. I'm labeling them. Like, hey, don't hire. This rat is ready to sell out. So quick grads. Smucker's to be will give you fifty grand put smucker's on your ass on. You know what I'm ready for? I wanna get knuckle tattoos. Yeah. Those jobs stoppers. But I want to do it when I don't have to make a living, and I'm gonna get fuck you money on it, epi k why oh you and then a dollar sign luck you mind. If they if they do the degenerates part two, we're in it. We're all we're all the whole group everyone everyone's going to get the tattoo. Fuck you money money. Let's do it a little more than what they paid us. But we're still very happy. Netflix. I can't wait wait I met, which I'm gonna guess e- social than e the other son right Ellis Ellis, super Kent, man, what a cool ass kid cool. You're crushing the mom game. You can you could tell that to just from me being around that and hanging with them. And then like how you interact interacting with you. And Tommy before we potted. Yeah. He's sweet, you know, it's a lot of pressure. 'cause like my parents were so bad at it. Then I'm like, I just I really want to do better isn't hard. I mean, I'm sure your parents were fucking assholes your Connex. No. Rates. I love say that like I'm ashamed like a great show. Yeah. We've got under things to contend with. I just big dick syndrome. Huge. This thing around. Sucks shorter so difficult. How my asking a little personally, why are you on? On what happened in your life? You though, so stressful. Possibly could go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Wanna make funny? What no get made fun of his kitchen asshole. Recounted a little bit, right? You know, they call me MRs pants because I like to wear pants that was my way. Weren't wearing pants. What school? Did you go? You. Did you did you live with going to school in Winnie? The pooh. Wait. Why did this is why love about kids? Their insults are so basic and like just direct like MRs pants. So they said it like that. That's what MS pants if I never wore skirts. I was a tomboy. So I was a little boy, I shouldn't I had. I always had these big lips. And I kinda grew into them. So this is the eighties to they would call me. N word lips. How horrible that? I know. This is say Canada's thing this. No, they say the full. No movements going on March is. Wow. This because I know you're born in Canada. But but this is once you were in Los Angeles. I came here when I was four. Okay alley. So that makes sense. You're like Canadians. We're doing this. I'm like fuck. We're building the wall on the wrong side. What the hell? The canadians. I know the Bali, but that's so crazy to eighties were so different than it is now like you can't it's just such a difference aside. John I sound like an eighty year old person. When I'm like things are changed it. It's so different changes like life changes. But at the same time, it's still amazing. When you look back, I know. Well, when I was growing up. Especially to nobody was like, you can be anything you want as a girl. It was like you could be a secretary. Yeah. Women's stuff. You could be receptionist. Yeah. Totally. Put up, but I wanna work construction me receptionist at a construction place, right? There was no there was no female stand up comics when I was a little girl and then later. Yeah. But there wasn't at all. Well, I mean there was but like not like not like now like you had like ninety runner Joan rivers. And that was it. That's right. Yeah. And then yeah, I mean that was what we had a Saturday Night Live. So there's Gilda Radner. But that not stand up not when I was a little girl. I was like Eddie Murphy is who I would watch. And did you dig it? Yeah. How funny is Eddie Murphy. Unbelievable. That's what that was the first. I think it's symbolic clips from my dad, and then and then Eddie Murphy, delirious was the first foal thing. I saw that. Wait, what wait a minute my mind. Still funny. Yeah. I love it and then coming to America. And then when you find out how old he was when he did the rock. It makes you mad. You wanna kill yourself because you're like, wait. I'm thirty. I'm thirty five and I'm not ninety close that funny now, and he was doing it for like two years. Three years started like fifteen all fucking Bill Hicks same thing. Yeah. Thirteen years old, right? Like, fourteen fucker. Would you have if you wait? So when did you start I after college, I was like twenty five wait. Yeah. Yeah. Twenty five did the groundlings I at twenty three love the sand. How far did you get? I did. So this is your space workout him so much. Caen anxiety. Yeah. Were so just minimal and basic. Yeah. So what are you doing cutting a steak? I was like I'm putting together a spaceship. I did the two levels and then went to New York to live with a girl and just live in New York for like a year and do open mics and UCB was out there and groundlings wasn't. So I did like all of that. And then came back and just kind of kept with it. They as Adam Ray here taking a break from the episode. Hope you're enjoying it to talk to you about casper mattress. Ho boy, sleep. We all need. It isn't like half your life spent in bed. We'll guess what? Spending on casper mattress, baby. 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But groundlings I preferred because it was so character based, you know, great with acting and you've got that face, man. You're you're this incarnation of complimentary insult you've got compliment. I saw him. I was like this guy is going to be a huge movie star because you're like, the the incarnation your John Travolta, you're in. You know, what I'm saying honesty massage portion of his life. So we the massage person when. Yeah, he he he was getting sued from male masseuses that like he would have Malema Souza's come and then he'd try to fuck them. Oh, yeah. We heard he's Kate. Yeah. Everyone knows. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I just regular old. That's what I read in case. You're listening churches, Scientology. That's not my actual. So you don't have to come at me. But I'm just saying go after all those other people that said those things. Not me. But boy but back in the day. He was like, you know, welcome back kotter and the guy race and Bob. Oh my God. You're totally that. You know, Hollywood they just like to rehash redo. Yeah. So you've got that essence who did you look up to in just so Eddie Murphy was your was that. Is that what made you like the things that the saw that you were like that looks like it'd be a lot of fun. I just loved naughty thinks saying that things and my dad had those truly tasteless joke books in the shitter. Yeah. I do. And I would memorize them in take and the night tell the jokes at school. I did that with your mom. Yeah. Fine. How like all the kids would just go nuts. Like you are. And you're like, yeah. I've got this from a book on the toilet. Because guess what? Even at that age. It took a little something extra to have the wherewithal and audacity to memorize your book and bring it to school and slam on the bus like you just came up with it. You know, because again, it's like how many kids are thinking of doing that kids that need to escape there. Wait, what were some of the jokes? You remember telling him rush so racist? They're all racist. I was it was dead baby jokes. Gone jokes. Yeah. I remember the dead baby. Float joking. She's a mom now. Yeah. You said you liked him. I was trying to joke. Okay. Okay. Yes. You start with the joke. No, you till you're dead baby back on because you're going to come. Come out. So how do you make baby float two scoops of Alaska, two, months dippy? All right. What's joe? Joke joke. How many babies it take the pain of walls ends on? How how hard you throw them. That was my words we were fine. We were out of the gutter with my joke. I even brought my voice down. I fucking trailed off. You know, what I just like to make things horrible. The joke. Why the Jews wandering the desert for forty years? I don't know somebody dropped a quarter. Okay. When you were and that was. It is an it's great to because you guys, do you definitely feel like that part of your life and getting introduced to that type of a free speech and just like sense of humor as contributed to you know, how your stand up, and and I mean on on your mom's house like some of the stuff, you guys talk about it and integrate and like engagement with the fans is so incredible. And so real like you forget like even silly is we had that riff on when I was on about a Harrison Ford being in the fart barrier. That's such a stupid like dumb thing. And it went on can't people. I got so many like tweets about it. And some of the vulgar things you guys talk about his so fucking funny and not and you have a really brilliant way of making it light heart. It doesn't seem as you know, what I'm saying. Yes. Yes. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. I think is I I think at the root of it were fascinated by people. Why is that guy? Putting that in his book. Why is that one of the great questions of our time? Starting in the shed and charging people like, you know, what I mean? Like, there's a woman who farts, shed and. Yeah. And she's like, I'm she makes these videos, and there's guys out there like a lovely lady in the in the shed. And I think it's all these outliers of society. I'm just fascinated him. The director of lady in the water comes m night show. Far in the shade. This shed shed for the twist is not really a fart who researches the content that you guys feature. We'll here's the beautiful part. Is that the audience sends it in because we just got in them kind of trained early on. We the first clips we ever reviewed where like you ever. See Todd Phillips first documentary on g g Allen it's called hated gee-gee. Jalen, it's fucking amazing. And we started with that. And then we train them, and they would send us these just horrendous. Things get go. You were doing this from the beginning. We just always respected our audience and play whatever shit they sent in. And we kind of have dialogue your engagement is the best of any podcast. So we love their fucking amazing. They're funny. And it's so because like literally like, you don't I mean, you always have great guests. But it's like you. I think it's why why on down so fun. And I I can say I can safely say that you do some podcasts. And then like, you get a couple of tweets or whatever. But you do your mom's house podcast whole league Rogers in Philly. Helium? And I so many mommy's coming out just being like, I'm here because of that like, and I don't know. I don't know why it's one of those things where you're like. I don't I am thankful, and I don't know why. And I'm just thankful when you take a turn. Flu Phillies yet. Yeah. I don't know. How long it's been eight years. I'm by your five. There was one time. We went to Toronto we did a live show there your mom's house, and we sold out the small theater, and I want out something's changing, and this the emails would slowly I mean now, we don't even Tom and I can't go through them. All so we have to hire we have someone that does it now. So but in the beginning it was like, oh my God. Somebody sent us an Email, you know, and then it just got bigger and bigger and know, how crazy how big do you think the podcast is going to get now that you've introduced the fart, Mike? I think glad you acknowledged the fart by think Rogan has to look over his shoulder. He does he does Marc Maron who's that? He doesn't have a far, Mike. Well, Marc Maron to be fair talking about the Mike and what Joe? Yeah. Well, let's now I mean, I'm so glad thank you for acknowledging Mike, I just saw the tweets from both you and he was so sheer joy. The dole to rated and on the podcast when you when you reveal like like, Tom Tom says something like, you know, what the three things that have made me happy in my life where my my wedding the birth of my children, and then you just slowly the fart Mike come on. Thank you for. Of course, we've revolutionized the podcasting industry. Yes. And truly have I fought for it. I'm not gonna lie. There are some drawbacks. Well, there were there is a lot of pushback, I'm not even joking like 'cause they're setting up this entire studio, Christina there's lighting their sound. There's that and I was like, but what about the fart, Mike? What about the farmers are gonna go fighting for it? And it's like, we're sponsored by McDonalds. We're we're we're gonna need some burgers. We're going to have to park gun a half. That was Lee. That was that was the old McDonald's slogan bought up up up. But. I'll tell you. Why too? I think because I I don't like behaving, and I hate adult society. And I think that's why had twenty two jobs in four years before I became a comic. Because unlike I can't do this. I cannot be sad every day in my life. I cannot be in a queue, you know, you guys have that inclination have to be silly. Otherwise, I'm gonna fucking explode. Don't get when I talk to friends that aren't in this world in some degree. I'm just like I mean, a it's always testing my threshold to just communicate with people that aren't in this world because you just have nothing like ten minutes went by. And there wasn't anything. You said that we could try to like riff on. And and it was so much real shit. And it was so depressed, and look look, there's even an art world their stuff to get you down. But like there's always were condition out always trying to find the Cillian something, right? Yeah. Well, I think society too, especially for women. There's this thing of. Like, you got you got to be responsible now. Now, you got the kids again. And it's like a I I can't all you're going to die. You know that right? Like, we're all gonna fuck you're gonna die. Like, maybe you. I don't think you know, about dwarfs. I know you guys live forever. I mean, we have to go for Brad already eighty four. We go away for a while. Just so like, it's not weird. And then like we wait for jet with like wait for generation die. And then we come back. By the way, I kind of believe that. I kind of do because I've seen Lord of the rings. They live alone. Yes. So like, so Adam. For me. I haven't seen it you win. You're like. Yeah. But I've seen Shanghai knights twice in the theaters had long priorities. Yes. So when you're eighty you're going to think that I died I didn't. I'm just like. All right. Everyone's getting to that age. I should go way. Yeah. And then we have little hub in New Zealand, and we all go there, and we hang out for like twenty years, and and the and then we come back, and then all your friends, all your human friends, gone. Yeah. They're all. Yeah. Yeah. Got to make new friends like oh. Who's this? Who who's this coal, dude? You know, this cool, dude like vampires exactly read the vampire chronicles? No, no, he's whenever Goth growing up. I worked at hot topic. Not because I was got. But yes. What do you want like stickers that could have gotten ten percents off a motor head shirt? Yeah. Fucking. Piercing that Gasol seizures. A Strobe light. We have one of those. Was your biggest seller? Probably or the Homer Simpson. Like beer mug that style are Spencer's didn't that replace kinda. Hot topic. We're like the quiz knows and subway of the ninety s was where you got all your not anything that wasn't being sold on the gap that that's where hot topic know, you guys cool shirts like you said Motorhead, and I I I still have my limp biscuit is better than everyone shirt somewhere. Oh my God. You remember orange Julius is? Are you kidding me? That's part of life. Yeah. Twice a week twice a week. Whether I'm either taking a poop or filling up with gas. I have mindless thoughts have just like I haven't seen a Julius in a while what they're all gone, Julius sometimes as look at my window, Julius where are you John just came along and just crush their talented. But what the fuck was in an orange Julius. Go ask was there is a bra egg. You could get it with raw egg. You could. Yeah. Dude. I or there was a raw egg in it. It's nastiest. Fuck. What's not real, orange, juice? Okay. So some of them, I know SO they have murdered. So they have murdered research. They've merged with Dairy Queen finally cool. There's a Dairy Queen orange Julius treat center. Oh, okay. Closes at nine pm. Okay. I think we gotta go a treat center. Treat Senator called the treat center. That's what it says. It says a treat center q. It's a center of trees. Now, they can't name it Dairy Queen because you know, everybody's making gay jokes. Right. They are naming your kid, Jack. Jack. Right. How much pressure was it when you were naming your kids because it's like 'cause do you have to 'cause like your veget- celebrities now, so do so do you have should name it something crazy? Yeah. But but like do you want your kid to have normal life Skylar Tanner, Connor? Cooper. A cool name. Now. There's our Oakland's I just think. Well, yeah. Because you have to think of the the name thing. Well, did you guys get mcvean no Adams normal Brad normal, those are two normal? Yeah. You just have to hope that there isn't like a serial killer or something like that. I know it comes because there there was quite there's quite a few girls who had the name ISIS before ISIS became ISIS. No way, we got us. Yeah. So I, but like Egyptian I believe. But. Yeah. And and then so, yeah, they have their names are ISIS, and all of a sudden, they're the name of a terrorist organization. So. It's like it's like that office space movie where the guy's name is Michael Bolton. Yeah. He's like you must love. Oh, I love it here. So I'm someday my son, Louis C, K Williams. Okay. Cosby? Cosby cosby? And then let's go well Louis C K the C stands for Cosby. That's right. Oh, yeah. Be Frankie Muniz Ray. Did he do anything wrong? Other than me a bitch and a Universal Studios co Ed basketball league. No. Oh, yeah. Do that guy was so fiscal and I call them out. And I was like dude, Malcolm, you're being a bitch, man. And he I throw them bows down low, and I hit a three in his face and kind of talk shit. And then he was like dick guy fucking. He's talking too much it league. It doesn't matter. Shut up. Thank you hear hot, Frankie Muniz talk today. But you did I didn't see that coming. Starstruck. Here's no only because I grew up in LA. I don't give a fuck. Like, I here's the one person. If I ever got to meet Howard Stern. Who is my hero. Right. You'll get there. Oh, you're on though. Let's all let's put out like, I was just I know I listened to the great. It's all Mark. You don't anything wrong always been funny, but Howard Stern's the only person I don't give a fuck about Brad Pitt. Angelina Jolie, I don't care about any of that. And I would have liked to have met. Anthony bourdain, I was a heat. I am a huge board game man person. What did you love about? What did you love a dark souls, Scott? I liked him. Because he was he was a fuck up. It did you ever read kitchen confidential? No again to my you. You got to really because the guy came up the kitchen is much like stand-up where it attracts the derelict's. The outliers the scumbags the fuck ups the masturbaters the junkies. It's like this great. It's a circus, and he talks about being a heroin recovering from doing heroin and starting in the kitchen, and how hard it is to be a line cook. And what goes into it? You're you know, you're fucking me's and plaza whatever you worked in the restaurant yesterday. You don't think about it? And how hard it is to make bread that guy wakes up at fucking four in the morning and makes bread and the darkness. I like Bukowski of a read like the, you know, drug postman poetry dark phase. I guess I like that too. Because I it just shows that people are real win ever. Someone's like everything is rate. What's up sums, right? Like, yeah. Definitely wrong there for your hiding something. That's insane. That you're hoping never gets out, of course. But if you let out, and that's why I think a lot of these celebrities are falling so hard is because they're putting out that image of like everything. No, everything's great. I'm this perfect human being. And then all of a sudden they said something wrong ten years ago. And it's and it's gonna fuck him up, whereas guy like Jim Norton. Yeah. What are you gonna? He's the talked about blowing transsexual. Yeah. He's talked about that for for fifteen years. Well, yeah. I mean Cosby that was the ultimate because the thing was like. When calling Eddie Murphy to bitch about the language, and it's like, well, what what were you doing at that time? Right motherfucker yet. So insane. What's your dark side? Adam. Let me come back on your mom's house and talk about candles bears. Bears appropriate backdrop for this. Got some dog shit. Oh, yeah. Everybody does. No. I know. I know Brad. I know actual deviance everybody things people don't know straight. Right. One secret who so we're going to be like Kreischer do like some secret time is that what he does. Is that what he does? I never listen to Britain. Real life. Would you Crushers horrible racing? Exactly. It's all about top sicker. Of course, about tiny, not Burke him over to my house. I listen to them all the time. I just don't listen to his podcast. Do you? Listen to other podcasts. Listen to this one over to make digit to make sure you were like, I love Bobby Lee. I listened great. Okay. Cool. Let's get right. He's the best known him for a while too. Yeah. Yeah. The first time I ever did stand up. He tried to hit on me before. I went up onstage bought not Bobby Lee that doesn't that doesn't sound like are weird. Blind. What are you doing? What's your name where you're on a road? Rules can do stand up right now. And I was like I have diarrhea like. The first on. Yeah. He liked headed. He's always had Q girlfriends. Yeah. Oh, my God killing tell me a dark secret. Adam I thought we were going to segue out of this. Diarrhea tout. Diarrhea in public. Oh, I in the sixth grade, I took a shit in a girls that I had a crush on's lawn because on the way to school. I actually have never told this. So this is actually. Her name was Anna. Okay. Could look around her dad was like these stereotypical dad that like if you called and like he accidentally picked up which by the way, I was just telling my fifth year old nephew this because he was just Snapchat and constantly, and I'm like you piece of shit. You're never going to know the exile. Or the nerves I come along with calling and grew you have a crush on. And having her dad actually, pick up and puberty kinda younger. So at twelve my boys was kind of deeper so the dad would be like, what are your intentions when my daughter, and I'm like, oh man rubber outside the shirt, like twelve I'm not fucking twenty two men this going for that. So I'm biking down the street and to go down the hill and the down other hill, and then bike school was maybe like, fifteen minutes and six Ray, you could do it. And also like in ninety seconds in like, I gotta go, and I'm already down the hill. So the idea of trying to peddle up the hill made me think I there was no time to pedal. Uphill. Yeah. I had to keep going downhill because everything was heading downhill. So literally, I'm going downhill, and I'm like trying to coast and I'm like don't fuck pedal. Just don't move on coast all the way and just drop the bike and run to school and right as I'm getting close to like warehouses, which I walked by every day. Like always I mean, we would like hang out in like stopped, and and they had these like Bush's off to the side, and I got up and ran up and and just went in their front lawn, and oh, hey, guess who's a fucking mowing the lawn at seven AM and his dad now did you did you have to run behind a tree? He saw me pulling my pants up. And then she goes what? And I was like I had to go like, what do you say to that? Oops. Like, it's not what it looks like how do you think? Only taking a p piece in down. You're the weirdo. You know? No. But clearly, I mean, he had to know that that was an emergency. Most people don't shit on your lawn unless you. I mean, I wish I had what's quick enough to be like, what are you is Anna home, or like teller, I like her, you know, this is my way of sending a message talking to another boy was was the family Jewish because you could always pull that card. Oh, no. This this Jewish tradition. They weren't actually home schooled her younger sister. They were they were a weird bunch. But she was all day at home. The home school. So they've shit on some yards. Yeah. I would never I'm sorry. No, no. Well, I can't I can't you can't be fucking weird. It makes us right? And you got to have a social aspect. That's most of life is socialize. Is there a famous homeschool person out there that's gone on normal more normal in that up like famous homeschool? I'm gonna go out on a limb and just say Tim tebow. He seems he seems like a home schooled. He seems like he hasn't been out in public a lot. Yeah. Four he before he was. Yeah before. Yeah. Before he was the star quarterback from an educational perspective because at least growing up here Elliott unified is dog shit. All right now, they're not even I know that's on talking like that. But for the socialization, you got to teach your kids how to fuck in, you know, make armpit fart sounds eyelids. And get get hit and hit with a dodgeball. Just like not go crying. Then go beat the other kid. I know got you gotta teach that it's like. Right right now, one of the big controversial things. And I use that in quotes because it's not really controversial is the Gillette, commercial, whatever they're talking about. How it's. I it's like a war on toxic masculinity. Something like Yemen bar. If I hear one more social Justice warrior shit like I'm symbolic here going. All right. Well, first of all wirel- commercials trying to make you feel shit now. Right. Like, it's like it used to be commercials were like, hey, this car has a lot of horsepower. Or hey, this is fruit by the foot. Fucking awesome. Or hey, you buy this toy? And then you get to fight skeletal. Or whatever the hell it was now. Now, it's like, hey, buy a Volkswagen Jetta and take your grandfather's ashes on a cross country trip. It's right on the ocean. Fuck off what does the car work that being said if I sent an orange Julius Dairy Queen commercial, I'll get my heartstrings I would go well play this show. They show like some old lady India blizzard. And she drops her blitz. She sitting there right heat number. She go thank God that butter fingers back, and it's not even thanks giving. And then she'd takes a bite and her dentures fall in it, and she freaks out about that. And goes, no. And then drops the blizzard. And then she starts crying, and then they slowly zoom in and then pan out and they show some young kid walk by with an orange Julius. And he goes, hey, mister, and she goes, I'm a woman, and he goes doesn't okay? Do you want? This orange Julius. And she goes, I have never been more touched in my entire life. Like, I I don't mind that finger Mike finger my Dairy Queen. But this up put this up my ass vicious show like a bunch of fat people not with orange Julius is. And then it just is like one of those Sarah McLaughlin ads, and it's just like you need for for for for a dollar seventy five. You can get this person on. Not a fat snack. Of course, it is so sugar. Hey, do you want to be fat drink this? That's what it should be. You wanna say that? Come to orange, Julius. All right. Sugar. I would appreciate that. Do you not like health because? Yeah. Yeah. Do you wanna tell younger, but be happier? Yeah. That's true. That's true. There was a movie like that. Right. Was it? You know, I was thinking about sorry. I got sidetracked. I picked up a highlights magazine and my sheriff's office yet, they still have those dude. So to the little find the what twelve items at the end. Yes. But you know, what I loved the most us and gallant the up they're still there. Yeah. But here's the deal, man different. It used to be like goofing is a piece of shit kid. And then gallons the good kid. Yeah. They don't polarize it. Now, they say there's a little goofiness and gallant and all of us. Oh fuck. And then they're like Gupta's does still misbehaves and gal. But they make it that. It's not as polarizing it's like, no, dude, sometimes kids are dick some just so world is full of shit, Dicks and bad people, and you should pay that and you should be exposed to that at a young age. So you go like, oh, that's how I defy that. Yeah. That's what's wrong. Don't talk to that kid. Don't talk to that deal with this. Like, that's a dick kids need to be made known that they are dictated my nieces. Affirmative skin, Gary, right? He's nine yard y'all shit away area. You're Gary and your nine and you don't work in a as. Mechanic, like, what are you here ways life? Why would you name your baby? Gary I ask little. I ask little Harris. Every time. I see. Not a baby Gary after I asked him, why yearly smells like Clinton shout or I go. Why did you name him Gary, and they're like he loves soup, and I'm like do a chatter check before you send them into the world. Gary is a forty two year old deadbeat. Yes. That's who Gary is while he's also a nine year old piece of shit with a fucked up haircut who taunts me with this bullshit skills. Every time I see him whose name skip rocks better than you. He's gonna be shit all day. Gary you got plenty of time to skip Ross off. I gotta live. I'm too busy finger banging people. So I like my life a little their friends have have your children yet that I guess not at this. That I can't wait. But it's coming. It's coming tell you the other parents fucking suck. That's the thing that sucks about parenthood is you're like, you think once you have kids that we're all going to be in this cool kid club. Sex. It's like high school where there's like there's like. On missouri. Moms are either fucking minds now, it's gone, very subtly. What I've observed to my sisters that they try to parent and also make jabs and like there's these like these little tooth darts. They like to shoot and like drop their own advice, like like, mommy bombs on you, just like, you know. Oh, I saw you did. Oh, I saw you did. Oh, yeah. Well, we do like very passive one thing. Everyone's trying to out parent. Everyone's trying to one dollar everyone else. You know? Russia's right. Yeah. That's that's how I describe. When someone tries to one up here. They want to one dollar. You know, what I found too is really softball balling to this generation in terms of like I buy books for my kids. I'm an avid reader and the books are such fuck and suck fests. Now. You know, you grow up reading like Grimm's tales old school shit that taught you about life stuff stuff that had a little like, I one of my favorite books. Growing up was how a kid died in a well because because he had a really long Tambo now. Sorry by rucci tape. Barry pemba. Oh, yes. That's the yes, Ricky, Dicky. I was too long and his brother Chang Chang who who. No one like because he's the second kid, but his name. Oh, yeah. He he's out of breath trying to tell his parents. Yeah. Hey, who's trapped in the well? Yeah. That that's gonna books we read and say it say the name. I don't know why they just call them Chang or something. Yeah. I just bought that book for my child night. Good. Good. Mom. Why mom, but all this shit today? And they saw an. Whoa. Whoa. Having seen it. Dick. Put shit like like, Snow White and the seven North's. She has a shitty step mom, and she has an orgy with the dwarfs. Exactly. And that's how that's a story. I always heard my dad just read it to me like and then. Just a motivational. This guy to this is one of you. This is awesome healed the bad witch to know white. Isn't you son? You haven't you have to instill that. How many kids grow up having shitty? Stepparents like the books now, they'll take all that strip. All the rail has Sheedy step mom and shitty. Stepsisters reason that story over and over exists because it happens in a lot of children's lives. So, you know. It's so and for other kids that were going through shit. They see a character going to the same. They're going through and they identify with it. And and they and they enjoy it. No one has this perfect life that they're putting out house now. But I will say what's great is Harry Potter because he's an orphan his adoptive parents are shit shooting. Oh, that was a portion of the story in the beginning of the movies every beginning of the movie, he's he's with his adopted parents and the inmates orphan, Jane, and you're like these assholes, and then he goes to the fucking wizard place. Now, he's a top dog pussy left and right. And that's the point speaking of getting pussy, less, right? He's fucking famous home schooled celebrities. We've gotta list courtesy of Norman. Okay. Boy, this this is this is exciting. This is way more than I thought we also not the list. I thought Gary humbling goes let's just going first of all before I read the list. Gimme some that. You actually think would be on that list a weirdos? Yeah. Let's talk your assuming. They're all weirdos. Right. Yeah. I'm talking like, David Lynch, home sculpture, Danny Bonna, doogie comes to mind hunter. Yes. Sure. Yeah. Actors that goes into Ritchie the child actors often do because they work on sets. Yeah. So they had a lot of these are child actor MacAulay Culkin was I just heard him on Rogan talking about that Dakota fanning, obviously. Yeah. Ryan gosling. But he was back in the Mickey Mouse club. So that's when you had to be Justin Bieber, obviously. Serena Williams, playing tennis since nation profession. Yes. Miam- Bialik my oh, she's blast. Eric about do. Really? I like her Miley Cyrus. Yes. Condoleeza Rice Condoleeza Rice wasn't one. Then threw me for a loop Condie Condie. I didn't know that love me some kind. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. The person Christina p could care less about Brad Pitt. Typeface how many fingers a new brand new bowl? You didn't touch. You know, we did a podcast yesterday. And I can tell you that that that it's changed since yesterday. Okay. Yeah. I I know that this apartment has like, you know, frat room vibes vibes, dude vibes. But guess what? I I ain't holding back on the fresh bears. Okay. What's with two? You're on the way out what's going on. But on the way out you know, what he he he grew fat kid. I go to the I go to the gym to play basketball. And and I do my I love your cardio here. Thank you. Justin Timberlake, of course, Selena Gomez, John Travolta, Tim tebow ten I was right. Wow. Giving him Mark. You just giving out the home school vibes. He just he just gave up these homes Demi Levato Gwyneth Paltrow, Paul Trump's completes. Let's. Outdoors weird. It's fucking. I like her. I'm not you know, what has she done? That's been the most insane because there's been four or five agencies. What it is she so disconnected from reality because she's grown up a show biz kid. Her mother was famous showbiz family her godfather is literally Stevens to. Okay, spielberg. That's going back. Yeah. So that's why you haven't because and then just Wendy and hook. Okay. So so she was on the internet. She's the she's the young windy. Whoa. Her first movie is her godfather, just like us, Cheryl three and hook. I got a little distracted by Julia Roberts as tinker bell. Okay. And I wanna fuck a ferry. So here we go. But she, you know, she's telling women like there's a skin cream. It's only eight hundred dollars. It's the same thing. Like Oprah does. My favorite things thousand dollar slippers bitch. Oh. I know but. Go ahead. I'm curious tuna salad from Toco. Yeah. Oh, the tuna just so much more delectable. Don't give a fuck because the penguins, they breathe on it. Jennifer. Love hewitt. Yeah. That makes sense. But also child star as well. Yes. All actor. And here's the last one, which I think, you know, obviously. Tom cruise. Obviously his weird to you. I don't think a school would have handled him. I think he would have somehow became principal. And they would have the power of positive thinking like that guy's always. I actually fucking love Tom Cruise. I know I think he's unbelievable. And when I saw him do this jumping out of a plane thing with James corden to promote the last mission impossible movie, I was like Ali so game. And he's so Fung coordin-, and I'm like, yeah. So he believes in 'Lions. Minor. But he's always talked to investor thing that doing his own stunts tastic that full runs the whole movie. There's this fucking that means like an entire day of shooting is just like go and he runs village. And then he if there's any runs down the Vikings. He's fighting underwater I'm tripping out over sprained my ankle. And he also like I love reading these articles. He's like, you know production was halted because he broke his leg. Sliding down a thousand foot window at a ninety degree angle five hundred feet in the air. And you're like, yeah. Yeah. Because he's not normal fifty years old. Yeah. 'cause Lisi it's madness. Because now, I know people that are fifty and they're not doing that. Now, they're not there. It's really hard to do that. They look that. Good. So do you have any? We got five more minutes. You good. All the time in the world. How often do you use away from a kid? She's happy. So happy you're missing them. You're thinking about them. From this. How often oh good? How often do you think about you road rules days? I'm a lifer. I think you know, what's funny. You know, what's funny? There are people who do the challenges they host, and we call them lifers the ones that keep going, which is great. Like, why not if you love it? I don't I don't if they ask you to come back and do a show an like, no go fuck yourself. See you later zero chance of that. How did that even happen? And did was it millions of dollars for me to do it again. How did happen? Yeah. I went to a casting call in San Francisco, I was poor. And I wanted to travel and I actually wanted to be on the real world. Let me too. Yeah. Eight on this us all the Hawaii. When I was like. Why? Odeen and the shower like signed. Nice. That's shower will. Fucking tech partying. And it was cool. I met tech to get a laugh factory is he sang. Yeah. Something I have to say they like to me, you're you are on the reality show. Mount rushmore. Yep. It's like, yeah. You are. Yeah. You are you feel von? Thank you, Kelly Clarkson. It was she you guys. What is what a talented roster. Now, we are. I guess you know, what it was the golden age. Yeah. It was before it was nasty. And mean, it was so innocent like they literally would just give us money and go. Hey, go drink have fun tonight. I'm we're like, okay. It was so fun. Enjoyed a. Yeah. You look back and you go that was the bat. Yeah. And I have loved for everybody on the cast. And I still keep in touch with most of them. That's brow. Yeah. And we're all just your now. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Adjusting are the people adjusted from it. Oh, yeah. More or less. Yeah. I think most if there's one person that's like whole non and like. Since one mass texts like four in the morning like big about going on in the book and talent right now might be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because when we had when we had seven. We made on the podcast. He was talking about all the other. Like, there's a couple of jackass guys are like, hey. So when we when we do another movie guys. Well, I'm sure they hope they kept their money those guys. Yeah. Some did. Yeah. Can't tell you that those that TV show, and those movies are probably my favorite things in the world win win. Can you not laugh at that? So remember seeing the first movie in theaters blew my I love what? Yeah. Yeah. These guys were like just a bunch of gnarly skateboarders stapling. They're nuts to shit and you're like, Aw, that's comedy. It's so good and how taxing on their bodies. They ruined their body. And it's like and good in back to the whole kind of like, you got to socialize. And you've got a bullying. Yeah. Kind of like that's what we did as kids to make each other laugh like we did stupid shit me and my friends played game called nutball. Yeah. Where are you one one person that one into the room one person, you take a rubber band ball? And then you you you have to have your legs spread you to keep the spread the whole time throw at you. Try to hit the other guy in the nuts. If you hit the other person the nuts, you get to leave and you're saying, and then he's like doubled over in pain. And now he has to play again. That's that was the game. We play funds up. Where are you? Hit some guy in the ass. Fucking thing. We're so sadistic. Yeah. Like does those were our gain? I know and and it's not because like we're talking about like, oh, we were in the nineteen forties. And we just had a group with a stick. Sweet. That's your look fun. Go. And it's like every time move is running trying to get the. Like we had other shit to do. We had video games. We had a we had. We had good TV show is. But it's like that was still fun. So fine in that it helps like beat each other because shitty by nature. Yes. They're actually shitty. People that you have to civilize that's the whole point right parenting. Yeah. You have to get that sadistic stuff out of you as a little. Yeah. It's just part of growing up. And then you learn what the boundaries are. Oh, I can't be mean to somebody like that. I can't do. So. So you're not gonna of that parent that like you kind of hear about like typical Hollywood parents or like stereotypically like, oh, you're you're you're back Sonate sending. Have you heard about the dangers of vaccination? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I watch I pay that you watch a red table talk Jada, all you gotta fucking Jada Pinkett. You gotta you gotta. Matt's. You're not watching this shan't. Oh was I am a big wheel Smith fan. So am I yeah. Is this like Jada just saying all the weird shit? They do this, please. Yeah. He's a great. Well, there I need to know how their kids turned out. I need to know why Jaden is Jaden exactly. Because every morning they would put a butterfly on the top of his nose. And say you can't wake up until this thing flies away. Sometimes it was days. Right. But he disciplined Jada Dana tell she goes. Well, when Jaden came to me at fifteen years old and said he wanted to move out. I let him move out to be his own, man. I'm like, wait. What what did you into the pool? House away you own the coldest sacked by the way, exactly it's called Smith both of them. Like, what are you talking about? No, basically, he wanted to be emancipated because he fucking hated. You isn't that? What that is. She starting to spin it. Let him be a mad, and I never forget what he said when he walked out the door. Fuck you mom. I've been waiting for this for ten years. And I said, wow at five you wanted to leave. That's some bullshit come back with some sandwiches, distract detached from reality where it's like, okay. A fifteen year old will Smith's kid moving out is not. You're not gonna happen. If if. Eighteen year old new us goes up to our parents and goes, hey, we're moving out there like cool by and they put us on the street. We have nothing up. We're not down the street at the at the four bedroom. With like nine butlers. They're just kind of checking and going still good. Yeah. Mom. I'm leaving an all I'm taking. He's might attrition est. My yoga instructor. Maserati hot air balloon pop tarts. I'm taking all of that. You have to say the level of confidence with these kids with Jaden, you watch merely like if I had just an just this. I'm jay. Yeah. Know how you should sell Jaden juice because first of all John, but would be out of a job. Yeah. Right. Because you're like Jane's like we don't even need boost you boost is looking at me while you drink it, and you go go on. Right. It's intoxicating. He's so he's so secure in some. Glen. And I can't believe we've waited this long. But what's the update with Garth Brooks? What is what is happening in the your mom's house world with guard. We know we know Rogan has you. Oh, like, he Connie is coming on Rogan crazy. I can't I can't wait for that. For you guys dying Garth, the top Garth Brooks has got it. How did that start? How does this it started because I'm a huge on Instagram Facebook, and I came across his social media platforms, which are just horrible. Whoever's coaching him is not doing it. Right. And we will Tom, and I were just watching his videos like this is fucking wacky. The is. Something's not connected delays talking. And then what's really going on? There's not it's a disconnect. What is that? So we just went down the rabbit hole. And now the fans are just lighting his shit up. Garth Brooks, social media is officially mama fide and. Sabotage or the content that has been spewed out. And the when you guys show me some of the photo mockups they'd done putting your guys as faces on him. And it's great. Yeah. I hope he comes on the show will I mean, we got glorious Stefan once because we were dominant show she fucking called into your mom's house. Do this is like Miami sound machine. Yeah. We put farts in that song that did that that and we did it with farts, and it caught on and she ends up. Yeah. Yeah. The Concha song aren't famous songs. Right. Many so talented. She's so talented. I can't I can't remember them. All and that's amazing that you got to talk to us. Yeah. So we're hoping that Garth calls in we're going to work on time. What's he doing so arenas? Thank all day. I can lose. He's doing he's doing a residency in Vegas. So he's probably hanging out there is he really you guys would go out, right? Yeah. You drive out there to a podcast him stadium tour. Are you fan of Garth Brooks? I live show. I'm like that like it because it's just he's he's he's one of those guys where even if you don't like the music you watch him and go fuck, dude. Like, you're putting in your putting everything perform is sure. Good performer. I saw selene Indian. No, I've been thinking about your the one we told you on your on your mom's house Nike, and we talked about the joke that she told Tele Joe in the yellow dress. She comes out, by the way at the peak of my highness, like literally the two balloons we smoked like had kicked in. And it was the show is I want to preface by saying unbelievable. I'd go see it again. But too much stand up that was not she. Thanks, you cute. She thinks she killed. But where she got me, which by the way, like all her jokes. Like, you know, we're just fallen flat. And then I mean, a lot of her fans love, and then she came on that yell addressing those Luca me off. So yeah, though, I'm so. Yeah. No, I'm ghetto yet. Oh, I'm for what I'm saying me. Like, no one's disputing the color. Fucking sing a song come together. And then she goes, it's like, I'm and then she pauses and turns and looks back to the camera goes Celine. Dejean? And I went he'll have it so much. Yeah. So hard what ever since she told that story on your mom's house. I think about it one day. I think about it whenever I see John mustard. I just wanna I just wish they would have cut to on a big screen the writer backstage who wrote that condiment pun and was just like bone. I knew it would work. She told me wasn't funny. Yeah. It's gold. I mean, selene Dijon. I know I know Gary go, isn't that cool? Oh, that's Gloria wait hold on. Now. This is the dating making music is here it is there. It is. My husband did this. He's real. This. That's good. It is good. My husband made this. How much fried? You have surprise. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. Good time at time. And I I thank you for having me. And I love your Sunday, kennels and other five treadmills. Weird posters. On the way, we love you the best. P givers Jeanette. Yes, being Christine Christina p. Christina P online. I had to do that with fucking dumb. Last name. I'm coming to Denver January's air on January thirty first Figari second Denver, the comedy vertex down. I'm doing acme a Minneapolis coming up. I don't know bunch of shit Christina PRN line. Just go your mom's. If you're not already podcast scribe prescribe. Yeah. And go comment on Garth Brooks since the. Either not ready. Say say say some shit you that maybe as my biggest stadium tour. Grazie is did you see where he's like he's recording studio g and and then the door there's a knock on the door. And he's like is supposed to happen. He's on a drug sounds like very paranoid. Like looking around like, oh, there's rage. And then it's them bring in the birthday cake with Tricia his wife seeing Ellie. It's my birthday every money. Happy birthday to g refers to himself as. Oh, weird slick slid content, slick stuff stuff stuff. He always looks like he's a couple moments away from eating bullet cocoa puffs. Can you believe a bird may days? And you're like I did ferry Henderson's based on a true story. Like, no, it's not your crazy. Choose. Thanks. Cast. Right back. Hey, everybody. It's me Tony. 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260 - Unwashed & Unabashed

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

1:38:55 hr | 3 months ago

260 - Unwashed & Unabashed

"This is exactly right. I'm bads gray. I'm brandy posey. And i'm test barker tune into our podcast lady to lady available now on exactly right. We're three stand up comics. Real life friends and every wednesday we host the coolest hang on the internet. It's like a party for your ear holes. Each week we invite some of the funniest comics and writers to join us in our adult three house games advice and the occasional deeply embarrassing personal revelation that we can't take back because now it's online forever lady to lady subscribe now on stitcher podcast or wherever you like to listen And welcome my favorite murder. Charge heart star. Karen kill gera and that to me me and mimi's on my lap. Because she she screaming right when we started work. We may have something to say this week. And i think we should just hear her out for one. Let's even get to talk. Maybe me tusha. Oh yeah there's she can't allow the greatest puppies saying to send you the video of the puppy. Just don't trying to play with me meat so cute and did she this him emotionally a completely a bad emotionally and a good old wallet on the nose. Oh i know. And i know. How's it going good good You got a good librarian like sexy librarian. Let going today thank you. I'm trying to seduce you I might as well say. I didn't take a shower and i pull my hair back so you i you know. Look that's my type. I know that's your favorite unwashed and unabashed guarantee to. Yeah that's me in a nutshell. I think it was one of those days. Just i keep cleaning out. I keep piece by piece cleaning out my garage. I'm very you've been doing this for a while so your garage must be. I basically took all the boxes that were moved from my other house. Like i think we were I want to say we were on the road but that campy now everybody were. My house was boxed up and moved to the new house. And so stevens. Like yes i can. I can confirm that happen to you. So yes that's what happened and so basically my entire garage was just filled entirely filled with boxes. Yeah so and. I was fine with that even though i was like. This is very symbolic. Don't just have a bunch of boxes of your old life downstairs that you're just letting sit there and also i Let them sit there for like over nine months. You clearly don't need anything. That's down the road alway. Yeah third but i did know there was a couple things. They had to go through the boxes. Because there would be a couple of things that i'd like. Oh thank god. I didn't throw away one of which was my cluttering which was a in my family. All the girls got. It's the it's the irish friendship. Bring where it's the to handle the that's what it's called. Yeah it's called cluttering and all the girls. My family got them when they turn sixteen and that we were doing it in the eighties before it got really trendy. Whatever but not is mine. I liked it. i mine I had lost it and found it a couple times it broke. There's like a whole drama behind it. And i'd finally found it again so that was one of the. I had to find that before through boxes way just entirely. Just throw boxes away. I mean i wanted to go. Because i was just like it doesn't if i haven't missed it. Then how important could it be. Marie kondo style. I wanted to be like panic attack. But i am a hoarder. So that's i mean but don't use like we all are in that way. Were you think. I was sending you pictures of like. I literally have folders from. When i was a camp counselor. I sent you that thing where it said. Look and listen. I was like look like they're i have stuff like that. Where it's like shirt means a lot to me but it isn't maker here. It is a crucial. Maybe it's just close to me because the amount of clothes i have in the difficulty i have given them away is so f- and it's also i'm sure because as a kid i only on hand me downs and now in like and i'm going to collect all the clubs so it's like and i i have a thing about close well and i think sometimes i would see. There's some shirts i remember. Having and i would kill to more now. I actually more than i found my benetton concert shirt. We used to wear in the late nineties. Yeah was just in one of those boxes whereas thought you were gone vince. Got me you tell them you want something. And he'll just casually go to his phone and you're like i know you're getting it from me. So he got me. I know he got me. The get acts of service and gifts are his love language. He got me the jane's addiction t shirt. I wore my first day of high school with like my shorts and my ripped fish nets dog cooling ditch the first day of highschool to swim. Oh because i needed a cigarette. Finding you know yes. The ritual dealer habitual james addiction sugar. And it's nice okay. Yeah is that the one where it's kind of like a guy hanging up it almost looks like crucifixion e. No it's a. It's a lady a very beautiful flower in her early at. It's yeah exactly i never. I didn't necessarily mean. I loved the hits. I will say that. But jane's edition was always the guys that i had a crush on like jane's addiction. Gator boys that had gone posters up. Yeah i just were so cricketing. I knew that their song head just admit it was about ted bundy so i was like you know in the nineties. As a fourteen year old it was very sexy and stuff and now of course like you. Fuck that shit well. But that's how it was back then was kind of the like if you wanted to be dangerous yards and take edgy photos and graveyard like john wayne. Casey's our yeah it's simply garbage and now that we know everybody else was painting it for him. I that's one of my favorites hills or modern or feels like the other prisoners. Fainting and johnny depp's paying seventy thousand dollars for so hilarious. Oh wait before we go any further. Have you heard in. did you learn that. The dilatot pass the dylan has mystery. Has been solved allegedly solved most likely solved definitely. Saw probably yeah. I didn't read the article. I was just no matter what you said. I was gonna devil's advocate the other direction. It's not it's not true. i may just did it. did you read the thing is. It's an avalanche ray interesting via the guy who basically solved it was showed that an avalanche was possible. Because there were all these things have like. Well everything was still standing. So it was like avalanche in a way or some light avalanche. I don't know and like the hill. Low it a short abilene right short word which doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Oh i think that was really. Is that what they called a nice short small short avalanche shallow. Something one of these words Yeah and then they. All you know escape crawled away and and died from various mostly hypothermia. It's just so sad and it was like kind of obvious and still so tragic and like such a crazy mystery for so long and that's it but does that explain is the the part. Where weren't their tongues missing and things like data was that because they were just left to the left to nia. Yeah yes definitely i mean. It's kind of obvious. I think when when i covered it. I think that's the conclusion we came to but it was. You know it was a cool mystery to unravel so. I think that's just what happened but it. It's a pretty basic straight rink anything's possible at the same time aliens. you know. sure they're out there. I don't know if you watch ancient aliens. But my mom does and she. I sure do cysts. As ancient alien theory theorist suggests. It's a lot of people pointed this out to us which i kind of knew anyway because it's incredibly racist and ridiculous where they're basically a showing ancient cultures and going. There's no way or it's like it doesn't make sense because people have been doing that kind of stuff for a hell of a long time and then you just point over to stonehenge. Did you ever see so. How old and then did you see the one the thing about like you know. What's it called island with the big stone eastern least dryland and they showed these just people today matt moving these huge blocks and how they would have done it with just rope and that's it and manpower and it's like it's not that hard. We don't actually need aliens and at the same time. We're probably aliens to begin with so yes. Aliens did it but listen. Nothing's really it's all fake. Here's what i like. The a easter island story is that one of the theories. because i i've seen the rope thing and there's another one which is that. They cut down all the trees on the island and they made lowest like a roller system so that they could get them down to the coastline or or to where they were and basically the king or whoever was in charge. I don't know it. King might not be the right term but prez over it was like it's my it's my decision. They kept demanding more and more of these statues and they cut down every tree practically on the island so that they have them and men basically made it so that the life was like uninhabitable. They didn't have good nature stuff going on on the island. They did it to themselves and this is why we need to have and we did join. The geneva convention is that this is why the laura ax is one of the more important books to dr seuss. ever wrote. i'm reading the dow of pu of winnie. The pooh must be epic. Can i do corrections corner. Sure you mean about about the conversation we just absolutely correction it all over that okay. It's a correction. More of like a clarification. That i when i talked last week about emotional support dogs. I kind of overlapped it with service dogs. Which would want to be clear. That service dogs are trained to perform functions for an owner. That has that needs the help and emotional support. Animals are just a companion of the owner. And they're not allowed on flights anymore. Oh really our like. They can't come on for free. Or whatever like that. You know god. It's not allowed but on instagram riley. Scott four one three made it clear saying great news emotional support dogs are allowed inside cracker barrel and said when i was a waitress there we had a guy who would dog in a chair across from him and order him chicken and dumplings. Oh no it does the whose emotional support dog in that scenario chicken and dumplings everybody so that would be yeah. That's amazing well. Yeah that's a. That's actually a very good though the discernment as important because service dogs are just like here. I will help you with your epilepsy. I will know when a sensors coming on. I can guide you across the street. If usually impaired whatever i can bring you a beer when you can't get up to open the fridge arthritis or whatever. Yeah sure so. I've seen that one. I've seen that video. Oh god the dog that go get goes and gets the beard trainer epic. Here's a great story from the new york post that the brooklyn. Da erik gonzalez dismisses two hundred sixty two and i'm quoting prostitution related warrants stemming from chart prostitution charges which his office no longer prosecutes and. I'm quoting from new york post. Obviously we say sex workers and they stretch back to twenty twelve however did ellis says that there are eight hundred and fifty additional warrants that were issued between the nineteen seventies in two thousand and eleven arising from prostitution charges which will be vacated in the near future. Isn't that amazing. And they're saying that the brooklyn does not pursue cases against people arrested for sex work but instead refers them to services and they need to be offered assistance not criminally prosecuted and the state legislature is moving to expunge all twenty five thousand plus prostitution related convictions in brooklyn that date back to nineteen seventy five saying like we wanna make sure that instead of criminal criminal penalties and jails were providing healthcare mental healthcare services to get them them the better options and for healthcare and and generations of young people's lives are being destroyed when we could be helping them says senator senator liz krueger who's working on introducing the new legislation incredible. Yeah that's great new york state. That's that's the brooklyn district attorney. Ericsson's all is night. That's in brooklyn which amazing epic and historic and step in the right motherfucking direction. Yeah let's let's do that all over the goddamn country gifts for real imagine services. Let's get back to some services for human beings if you wanna stay working in sex work which is totally acceptable. At least have some means of help or you know and they say of course that a lot of sex workers who experience abuse won't report it because i know they're going to get prosecuted. Which is a huge issue. Good news all around a wonderful feel good story right a feel good story from the new york post. Hey hey boy. My favorite late scrolls have some really wacky articles. So always fun. I furnished bridgeton. Thanks to you would you think. Did you watched it. For a couple of seasons attached episodes episodes. That's right Oh yeah. Didn't i tell you. Time isn't linear hop forward disease. Unbelievable this isn't ancient alien. I watched it because you said that there was going to be some hot raunchy victorian sex. So i stuck with it and you're wrong and then i found myself enjoying it so i kept watching it and then i gasped out loud the very ending and text. You all excited about it so i definitely recommend it. It's like a good fun distraction. Watch right yes absolutely. Yeah but it's not a family watch out -solutely not do not no children no parents in the room with you know absolutely not. There is a plot line in this show That is to me an old prude from the eighties. Shocking see the plotline. O- must not me uproot a spoiler alert. So you have to leave that out. I did plea. Okay yeah like the whole thing like a jane austen ceremonies. I was i kept going. It's gotta be me. I think i'm hearing this wrong literally. Looked it up on my phone. Because i was like. This can't actually be the plot. Okay but people who read the book already knew and that was in the book because the book is like a modern retelling of one of those kinda stories. I thought it was like i just thought it was some old shawna. Rimes was just bringing back story. I'd ever hurt. No shots ringing. Grey's anatomy love into the fec in past man. Yeah yeah our lovely claire from dairy girls. kills it too so happy to see her anytime. A delight truly nicola colon. Call nikola nikolov coughlin nikola cohen. Yeah she's great all right. So i i recommend that if you need an escape it was helpful in my sanity in keeping recently. If you need if you need a private escape. I have one. I have a recommendation that came. I made a. I wrote a tweet the other night and in the tweet jokingly referenced the witcher or witcher might just be playing witcher but that's the henry cavill series. That's kind of like. I don't know spooky. Yeah okay whatever fantasy almost but i watched it and do enjoy it but my friend. Alex read who's my old friend from san francisco but he's also a very accomplished a tv writer himself and he wrote if you like witcher. You will love britannia. And so i. i believe it's on net flicks. And i started watching it and it is so good. It's basically chancellor britannia. It's it's britannica it's about. It's just a shot of a bunch of encyclopedias very soothing. No bertagna it's about the romans invading britannia and the celts and the druids live there and the druids fascinating clan of people that used to live in england in the english territories. Whatever they were called and there were kind of lake. Witchy but there. It's real but they were like they used to. There said to have had telekinesis they did magic they. A lot of their magic was based in oak trees. It's this whole. I started reading about them. Because i was so fascinated. Because it's actually real. But basically the romans came in and dot rid of them all and so they were kind of like you know the magic people. It's really good series as like lord of the ring vibes. That's what i'm getting. It's like lord of the ring for real though is it's it's historically based perhaps not exactly accurate but based some liberties are taken. It's good all right. So what's it called mia britannia on netflix. I have to tell you. I've been really excited to tell you about. I told you about Oh ship what's even. What was the instagram. And god's common core so remember. I told you about cottage core although like darling twee stuff and beekeeping that i was super into azure. That'll is found out recently. That you know there's cleaning that it was a scam is a pyramid scheme. Really love it. And i put thousand dollars and i feel like i'm gonna get my return. I talks in cottage core and a miniature dollhouses. And i'm really feeling good about it. All right great and if you wanna join You can be in my pyramid anyway. Okay there are cleaning influencers. Like i found out that there are people who like have our specialty cleaners like house cleaning. There's this one called. It's a. m. a. r. o. s. cleaning on morose cleaning and she's like an influence and like thousands and thousands of followers shows. You her favorite like scrubbed daddy. And here's how to clean mess. And here's the best way to vacuum this. This is my favorite. This and this is my favorite cleaning thing of that obsessed and it's addictive well you know what's funny it's funny. You mentioned that. Because when i at christmas time when i went to make a bake a turkey for the first time i went and looked at my oven and it wasn't very clean i was like i should clean this but i don't know how you can switch it on your. Your oven is like self cleaning. I don't trust that and it takes a full day. Or whatever. And so i looked up. I'm basically looked up my kind of an and how to clean like quickly and easily and there was a woman who is just like its. You need baking soda white vinegar yup and she and it really worked. It was like it took me twenty minute. Well there are people like you know there's like There's like Workout influencers with the called. And you were you know. And there's cleaning influencers. Have you cleaned anything. Have you been influenced in any way by them i have. I bought all the products she told me to get. And i've been pinging power-washing videos too so that's like that is one of my favorite things. Have you ever seen the ones in the buildings in new york city. And they're doing it in manhattan and it's just guys like what looked like a window washing thingy but instead their power washington front of a building. So it's going from dark grey to beautiful marble white. Yes the best. I watched one of the tenant had lived in this apartment for forty years and smoked three packs a day and they went in there with a power washer and the walls were fucking yellow yellow and they just power wash it and it was like oh even the ceiling was just gross. Bob debt so good and they they cleaned it allah they fuck in power washed. Everybody loves a before and after but with something like that where you don't have to actually do the hard work of cleaning out. Yeah but you still get the satisfaction of the of the before and after yes. There's nothing better. Nothing it's so good because my hopefully my life will never get to the point where i'll have to have a satisfying power-washing situations. I'll just watch other people's you don't know has indoor. Smoking is it can be pretty. Can you imagine sitting in new york apartment. So it's what is it costs four grand. There's some shit like is high so it's just your smoke box. Yes i used to. You know what i'm saying. Can you imagine. I did it when i when i lived there. Lake early twenty tens. It was probably twenty ten or twenty eleven. I moved there for a job. I knew four people. So on the weekends i would just pull the stool because it was this tiny kitchen. Yeah i would put a pot of water on the stove and just keep it on a low boil so there was just moisture in the air and then and then the i had the window open and i work total coat. The window cracked problem. That's enough window cracked. And then i would just smoke and blow it out the window and keep it so that like if any smoke in the air the moisture so it wouldn't get anything dirty. I've never heard of that. Yeah i just fuck it. I just trolled facebook. I couldn't get off as a self-rule right. You know what you are. You're a fucking cigarette influence her. You're giving us some. You're rolling around and you're going to show us how and all the tools you love to you or just like if you can't roll them yourself here's what you do. Here's the filter. I like some times says no fail. And then you gotta crack your window this much. Otherwise it doesn't so yeah your cigarette influence or and then a truce agota cigarette influence. Because then you can take a picture. You can find a picture of my old teeth. And i had to get them professionally. Replaced with fake teeth came so yellow because smoking is disgusting and terrible for you. And you shouldn't do it. That's right but man it can be satisfied on. You're all alone in the world in new york city contemplated cigarette of like. This is what i'm doing tonight. Fuck you and that's actually. I've told the story thousand times. But that's when i got into pockets. Rice i would listen to dave anthony and greg behrendt podcast walking the room and it was like getting to hang out with my friends and knocking to talk and i love this love it. Oh i have one Correction coca cole. Escola from a search party who i mentioned last week and adoring them but i called them he and and his pronouns are they them so i just make sure i got that clear. Update update everybody. And i wanna make sure i respect that and clear it up. If you don't know it's not about respect 'cause you right right so important sign of respect to absolutely absolutely good. Good thing just i. it's it's a. I'm working on the habit of just trying to default they. Yes yes but it's again. I'm from the eighties so it's it is a slight adjustment. Yeah but Yeah it's usually the just your best bet totally totally. I was going to tell you about. Oh well a couple were still doing. tv shows. I just stumbled on member when i told you about. There was a british show called not safe for work that i loved your major watch at least one episode of not sure. It's really good if you haven't seen it. Not safe for work is great. But then i also but i found this. This is basically like a deep cut. Because it's from. I think it started in twenty eleven and it's called fresh meat and it's these young and it's all schmidt bugler young. It's an old with young people. My two favorite things and it's called fresh meat and they are all at uni and british yup and they're all just a roommates. You know a rag. Tag group of roommates was benching yesterday. Because it's good stuff if anyone's looking for i'm doing those deep cut to british show deep cuts. Did you hate to ask this. Because i feel like it's one of those things. Were like your friend. Wreckage recommend something. Like can you leave me alone about it. He watched the british shameless. The original shameless. Yes remember we were talking about you remember. You asked me what. I would what i would be and i was the neighbor. The british shameless is amazing. I mean we're still obsessed with it at like it's fucking best show i've ever seen. That's like one of my favorites now. Do we discuss. I want to know if that dad character is dying his hair definitely or if he thinks in the beginning he looks like he has a wig. You're saying right but it doesn't later. He must have been like how to roll at a different role for something else. And how to wear a wig dies it but maybe that's part of his character because his character is just a complete fuck. Yeah who is his character. Yes like kind of a young guy but then his living a hard life so it makes sense that he would have kind scraggly beard he face and then young guy hair tried. Look it's a good show. I love it and the young actor. Who's so james. So hot Yes he he's place. His name is steven in it. But he you know he. He and fiona spoiler spoiler now lice got married on the set of shameless and got married again and are now divorced. That's okay story. Love love love stories. loving it. Should we do exactly right news. I have one more recommendation. Sorry it's just no it's just a it's a podcast i was. I don't know what what i was doing. But i was just kind of like going randomly through podcast and it was like the ones that were related to. The ones eight already listened. And i stumbled upon a podcast. That's like a kind of self healthy. Oh very to me. And i listened to it. Yes yeah it's called unfunded your brain but it's not by the person who authored the book because i thought it would be an. It's not yet and she and it seems like the book came out and this podcast came out the same year so it might totally be things of that very much does happen in the world which is just. It's a coincidence. But this one is a as series by or sorry. this is a podcast by the host. Is a woman named kara low and feel. I hope i'm pronouncing that right and it. It started as a pod like an advice. Podcast for lawyers. Wow wow yeah. She's got she was but then as it goes she basically becomes like a life coach. And it's basically just kind of like good advice on a bevy of different things if you're looking for it's real short like i think each one is like a half an hour us. Yeah and it's re. She is such a good like prater. Conceptual yes you sent me. The one of how to get confidence and i listened to what thirty minutes i was so surprised it was like over already but it was like such great simple advice on how to start it yet. you know. It's a long process and it seems daunting and overwhelming to fucking get confidence after lifetime of not having it but she makes it so straightforward and simple and yes blames your brain to you of why it's not working and it's it's great you're right you're right. It was great. It's really cool. And i really think it's generous because she is. She is a like blyth. Coaching master life coach. And there's lots of life coaches that have podcasts. That are basically giving it away for free as a way to say if you want more of this than you. Get all coaches separately. So that's very cool. If you listen to it then you have like next options if you have like the money and the hotel but inclination but if not there's their four years of podcast episodes where you can go through and find your topic and it's just really i find her very smart very so good. At giving advice. I was blown away. That's amazing. I love the podcast. The other great. Talk to your brain with carlo and theo yes of course go because i i had a couple of those moments as i was listening where i was just like. Oh i can actually do this. Yeah that's not. it's not conceptual in that way of like you need to tell yourself you're great where it's just like. I would fuck and do that like at night. Worked on one thing about us. Is that i feel like and people with low self esteem is like. I don't think. I deserve to like myself and i don't think i deserve confidence from myself or other people and so it's not gonna fucking work on me and fuck you for trying for other people enough for me. Fuck rayo but it's like no no it's just your brain and your wires are kinda crossed and the way you've been trying to get it from outside sources is just. It doesn't work for anyone not because you're broken and that idea of these. Are these thoughts that pass through our head. They're just that they're just thoughts and we can't just give our life to these thoughts ideas feelings that just come through. We have to be more in charge and we have to be basically kind of like right there with the thoughts and then go. Thank you for the warning. Thank you for the worry. Thank you for the you know stamping your feet. We're not gonna do that this year. And like it's that idea i just you know i mean like that's also my therapist talking in a lot of other things but car little loan the'll puts it into a very simple listenable kind of like break it down. I was it's like it works for anyone. It's not you don't have to be special and like but however we're we're especially special. Don't we all love to be the best. That's the best way early. I mean. I don't want to be boring broke. And that's like and i'm not high level broken ball you earn that leather jacket and that cigarette when these knuckle tattoos me. No not everyone gets to have these. You have to have a permit when you go to the georgia's knuckle say special broken. How she fits it on. I got extra fingers. Because i'm especially broken all right. That was a great wrec. Oh i'm reading the invention of wings by sue monk kidd. That's k. I d d and she also wrote the secret life of bees which was on believably great b.'s. Lie do love me. I highly recommend the invention of wings. Cool yeah so check that out too now. We do a little exactly right news or some we have so many great and wonderful shows are just going to highlight a couple of them for you right now. In case you haven't caught up to all your e r programming this week. You can walk you through it. I think we should start with. I saw what you did. Which is our radical movie review podcast. It's hosted by the two incredible women million and danielle. Millie is the programmer at the incredible turner classic movies which is like one of the coolest channels and whenever events like they own double feature of this. That's milly that's milly like she has impeccable frigging taste and you know so much about movies and cheese hilarious. They're great friends. I saw what you did actually as a five star rating on itunes which is If you ask us is impossible but apparently it's not well this is we're talking criterion collection level. Podcasting over here. Hey that's what's nice time. Yeah and so. They're doing a black history month special where they're focusing their discussions on directors actors and other artists in the film industry and examining the obviously year round importance of celebrating and amplifying black voices in the film community and to kick that off. They're discussing to films ganga and has from nine hundred seventy three and losing ground from nineteen eighty two. So make sure you subscribe and listen to. I saw what you did and follow them on at. I saw pod on instagram and twitter. And they'll tell you what movies are reviewing each week beforehand. So you can watch before or after. You don't even need a fucking watch them honestly just because you you'll get the discussion. Also on bananas are weird news. Podcast curtain scotty are doing basically a live show this weekend. This is very exciting. You can buy tickets for. It's a february sixth. It's coming. I literally don't know what date is a couple of days and it could be the fifteenth. It could be the second fucked and clue by the way before you get fucking angry in their instagram. feed they're doing a live web show. It's not they're not gonna be a fucking troubadour guys it's no no no streaming it's completely it's completely virtual. They're gonna wear masks even though there's gonna be super distanced so go to. Www bananas live dot com and Go watch them. Do a live show. They're both Seasoned performers going to be amazing. Yeah load out. It's going to be that damn show so they're doing so good. They're so good and then we have a crossover this week of two of our exactly right podcast. So carrick link from. That's messed up our. Svu podcast is on. I said no gifts bridges podcast and so you should check both of those out. Yeah that's going to be a delight. Yeah it is. I love those people. I love seeing them at parties. Which is obviously about our main host criteria for exactly right is do. We like to hang out with them at parties can. How long can you stand with them at a party. Over over ten minutes they get a show in just just a slide. This one in ten fold more. Wicked is on. Their second. Season are on kate. Winkler dawson's on her second season talking about serial killers burke and hare d- really fascinating. They have been at the top of apple's true crime charts. This second season is going gangbusters and my sister told me the other day that my cousin stevie who is like my older brother got off the phone with her the other day because he loves this podcast so much that he wanted to stop talking to her so he can continue listening. Poss- how you know. I said to my sister. I was like that's like the opposite of him. Beating me up every day after school that feel so good after school instead of him beating me up. We're adults he can listen to my podcast. I love you. Stevie wonder if i want to reiterate speaking of being on the top of the true crime charts is that please please please. Rate review and subscribe. I know it's just this thing you hear on every podcast at the end of the episode. But it's the way that you get on the charts and it's also the way they get ad sales. Which is how these free podcasts. That you listened to are able to get ads. it's the way they make money. 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Two of temple more wicked is now available on exactly right. Subscribe now on stitcher apple podcasts. Or wherever you like to listen all right so this is in the news. Recently and i realized i hadn't even considered doing it. And i thought maybe now's a good time because of that. So this is the murder of lana clarkson. By phil spector. Oh yeah amazing. Done that how we never done that. Yeah okay hopefully. We've never. I mean i'm surprised like even at an la live. Show doing it. But it doesn't never crossed my mind. Okay my sources. Are patrick prince for gold mine. Mag cnn wire dominic dunn article for vanity. Fair stephen. A diamond article for psychology today. Corinna longsworth for ellie weekly. Bill demane for mental floss wikipedia of course and then other vanity fair articles as well. Karina longworth that's you must remember this totally that's corinna getting. Her bills paid good for her. She also doesn't podcast rate review should get more ads. Please support karina longworth on. You must remember this. Ask all right so let some. We're going to delve into phil spector. And who is one is life was like really just paints a picture of what ended up what he ended up doing so his hair. I mean i have no explanation explanation for that. Okay okay yeah harvey. Philip spector is born in nineteen thirty to a first generation immigrant jewish family and they live in the bronx. The family first arrived from ukraine in nineteen thirteen. And it's highly possible that his parents are first cousins because there's lineage lineage found of their grandfather's they were found to be very similar on their naturalization papers. So it's a little side note and nineteen forty nine when phil is just nine years old. His ironworker father who has just tons of debt takes his own life by carbon monoxide expectation and nine years. I mean it's tragic on. His tombstone is inscribed ben specter. Father husband to know him is to love him. Fills allegedly domineering. Mother moves the family. Shoot from new york to los angeles in nineteen fifty-three where she works as a seamstress. All right phil goes to fairfax high school. Where he was involved in a jewish. Like boys club known as the lockin vars which i have known about since i was a kid because one such member is none other than mardi hard stark. Marty was locking bar. Mardi was locking ride. No idea phil spector was to intel. Phil spector last week and my dad forwarded this like chain email from a bunch of old members. My dad called it a gang but it was just a bunch of jewish boys club and they were all kind of talking about their memories of their friends. Phil spector from high school and my dad's still super close with those friends from his time. It's like they were very kind of supported each other and partly because they grew up in a time when anti semitism was still rampant in. La in the nineteen fifties. The fairfax was known as quote jewish high school and in fact the principal even taught modern hebrew class and some parents are taking their kids out of fairfax because the high jewish population made them uncomfortable. So la. I've heard stories from my grandparents and parents was very antisemitic at the time. I believe that it's just funny or like interesting now to think about that because of the way things are now like the idea of people taking their kids out of school because jewish people want there just kind of like what. But that's it's that thing of like over the years that kind of racism exposes itself to just be the weirdest most baseless stoop opting louis. But then it's just the more current like. That's i've think i've told you the story of what i got in trouble because i repeated a slur against a mexican student that i heard on the playground and and my aunt jean like slammed on the brakes and was like what. Why would you ever say that. And i was like oh. I thought that's what somebody else that i was like. Yeah or something like that and my mother gave me this fucking speech that night. that was all about. Don't you know that the way you know anybody that says that about mexicans now. That's exactly what people were saying about your grandparents. Fifty years ago when they emigrated. And we're living in san francisco when there were signs up. That said don't hire the irish like those. Those people are your relatives. You might as well think of it. In the same way. That dot com. That's racist and that kind of like bias is. That's who your people are like. You can't do because your people were those people and it was really eye-opening and kind of thank fucking god. I made that mistake to learn. That lesson. And i mean from second grade on. That's just as a kid and not many kids like second graders. Listen to this but just repeat shit other people say don't believe kids say they're all fucking making shit up as they go along or repeating stuff stupid. People say yeah. You don't just don't so. I think that's why my my dad was so close with them. And this little group the lockin vars which i just love. You're sitting here out on the phone with my dad. And how do you pronounce that. So the reason. I thought of doing the stories because as i said the phil spector email went around and my dad. Forward it to me. They were sharing old memories of their old club. Member phil spector one of the guys. Whose name is robert remembered. Phil spector this way. I thought he was so friendly. A bit different. Perhaps but so talented and nice to everyone. We became friends and his mom would ask me to play the piano. Whenever i came over which was often he was head cheerleader. And it wasn't hard to recognize. He would be a musical. Success was at cheer. Yeah he also live down the street. From my dad like my grandma. It's just well. I didn't know him. It was he was a couple years ahead of my dad. Okay yeah head. Cheerleaders little bit of a left turn. It is i. I didn't see that one coming. It is but i think he was back then for men to be cheerleaders. Wasn't it good. Yeah but head cheerleader. We beat out special so fill in. He was like this short and small in stature. Guys probably didn't play a lot of sports sam so cheerleader. He hated his given name harvey which was he was previously known by and he starts going by his middle name philip phil but she later has legally changed it legally changed so he becomes obsessed with listening to music on. Am radio and it changes his life. He starts hanging around the music room at fairfax and he learns the guitar and he performs in school talent shows and he starts a band with three of his friends from fairfax and they form a group called the teddy bears so he started hanging out a local recording studios learn music production. And the skies. Stan ross who is an owner and producer of gold star records and hollywood takes a shine to him and begins. Tutoring phil spector on music production and so from eighteen th no from nineteen fifty to nineteen eighty-four gold star studios is one of the most important studios in the world. They have artists like the beach. Boys and ritchie valens and jimi hendrix and putting out like you know world history changing music. Who and so and just tons of recording artists perform there and record. There and i highly suggest the documentary. The wrecking crew. Yeah which tells gold stars history by filmmaker denny tedesco. It's on amazon. It's fucking awesome. The wrecking crew watch it. So phil learns the business and in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. The teddy bears signed two eras door records where they get a deal to record to fill songs. One of them being shenault him is to love him inspired by the inscription on his father's tombstone and it goes to number one on the billboard. Hot one hundred list and sells over a million copies and in nineteen fifty eight They perform on. Dick clark's american bandstand. Which was a huge accomplishment. Big deal yeah. And meanwhile this is just an interesting side note. Phil's mother bertha had encouraged fill to learn stenography. In the meantime gotta have a safety net. That's exactly why so he had to fall back on in case the music thing didn't work out because you know like what are you fucking doing. Can you at least get degree. Please no one's letting you just go being the teddy bears pay your mortgage 'cause that ain't real. You performed on american bandstand once phil and so between nineteen fifty seven and nine hundred and sixty phil spector job as a part time court. Sinaga offer the court in downtown los angeles wear among other cases. He worked the lana turner cheryl crane murder case that i covered one of our live shows in. La in which alana's daughter cheryl stab. Lawn is boyfriend. Johnny stompanato to death and she has a teenager and she got off so he was in that trial. He was coached where that trial. That's insane random. And then he was offered the job of doing translation work as an interpreter. For fidel castro. This year's starting to the movies zelic like it's like or forrest. Gump heasley played by the piece of shit. Woody allen they look alike in a weird way and actually phil spector met castro twice in a hotel room but ultimately turns down the most incredible job i've ever heard in my fucking life in order to continue his music career. So it's probably a big fuck you to his mom for the teddy bears break up so sadly and nineteen fifty nine and after finding success producing a few records as well as sitting in on as a session. Musician phil phillips record records so his own record company with famed producer. Lester stills so this is when phil spector like really finds his nishi and he developed his trademark wall of sound production formula where. I'm going to put the simply because i don't know if i can get it. A mixture of all sorts of instruments are playing at the same time in unison with other instruments joining in layers along with further layers of vocals. It's like this crescendo effect. I mean it's beautiful But the secret is the echo. Chamber where the microphones from the studio. Play into a basement speakers microphones. They bounce the sound back to the control room to be recorded on tape. That's how the wall of sound works. Shrugs she explains explains unbelieving again. I get it. Well you know the the motown records. They ran a microphone to the attic to get that same type of sound. Yeah that makes sense. So that's the only reason. I kind of get what you're talking. You're talking about this. Yeah yes. Because when i record well it's all about the echo and the and the attic. I'd like to thank mike burns my research writer for understanding. What the fuck that meant and writing it in layman's terms so so spector said in nineteen sixty four quote. I was looking for a sound strong a sound so strong. If the material was not the greatest the sound would carry the record. Hey it was a case of augmenting it all fit together like a jigsaw so you can hear that with the beach boys. Brian wilson recorded there as well and phil releases legendary songs where you can hear this unique style including be my baby by the raw nets which is legendary legendary classic. Then he kissed me by the crystals another beautiful song. Put your headphones on you guys. Put your noise cancelling headphones on and listen to these songs. They're moving and he signs. The righteous brothers in nineteen sixty five releasing. You've lost that lovin. Phelan unchained melody. And you're my soul and inspiration to like hit after hit that defines the era. So this is why he so famous when you look at these insane pictures of him in the courtroom. And you're like who. Is this dude. The he'd just changes music so by now. he's in his early twenties. And he's one of the hottest and wealthiest record producers in the world can't get fame that you can't get famous and rich that young or you're no you cannot canot you can fuck you gotta go through some shit before you can appreciate some shit right you gotta go some shit before you can buy all the coke all the time because you and your wall of sound are going to get yourself into some trouble right by the time you're thirty and you're washed up so in one thousand nineteen sixty six spectra scientists final act at phyllis it's p. h. i. l. les fyllas phillies phillies philadelphia. Phillies no record company. This is his final his final act. I tina turner and he consists considers river deep mountain high. The best thing he's ever produced and the fact that the song was initially snubbed. By the american audience he takes it super personally and it kinda changes something in him and made him resent the music industry completely and he just as bitter and he retreats from the business and goes into a state of depression after one thing. That didn't go his way right after twenty. That did exactly cool. Cool cool. sounds like a great state of mind. Sounds like he's got his shit together in early. He's doing probably doing a lot of meditating alone chanting just really grounded. Sounds like he's duda of the people. I think he's reading the dow of winnie the pooh for sure So after failing to sell his record company to am records in nineteen sixty seven. He becomes a total recluse. He rarely makes public appearances for a couple of years except for playing drug dealer in nineteen. Sixty nine's easy writer titan. No and playing himself in a cameo of i dream of jeannie per they were desperate for cameos point but he does mary his dream. Girl veronica bennett. Whose ronnie of the ra- nets who fill a discovered so phil had discovered her and the group and he helped make them famous with these hits and sending the relationship was doomed due to phil's erratic emotional behavior rani's mother turned to her daughter. After signing the wedding certificate and said quote. I just signed your death certificate. Oh no that's not what. I don't know what you wanna hear on your wedding day. Well maybe it was like. She felt like she had no choice shoes. Just like a made me do definitely definitely. I know how you know how much daughters listened to their mothers advice. Also that band was huge. Their songs were awesome. And i'm sure she was just like this guy made me like he's you know that's what it's so. She wrote a memoir. Nine hundred ninety called be my baby and sh. Yeah that's exactly it. As she felt she owed him. This showed him or life. You know sure. And she actually. He was really controlling and it turns out john lennon and fell in love with her. And let's go on tour with the beatles and she chose. Phil spector over that. So that devoted she was to him so in be my baby her memoir she details. How phil spector. Psychologically tortures her and purposely ruins her career by not allowing her to perform again. He's the monster puts barbed wire around their house. And they live in the mansion in california which is right outside pasadena right and he gets guard dogs for the yard and it's all to keep ronnie inside the castle. Basically they call it if she's given permission to leave. Ronnie has to drive with a life size. Inflatable dummy of phil spector in the passenger seat. Okay are we going to talk about what drugs he was on. Because this is extreme. In later on i will tell you about the poppers and thirty eight. Okay him because jesus christ was also just as emotionally manipulative psychotic guy. Like i don't even know if drugs were part of it. I mean. I'm sure they were like back then. Drugs were ever did speed. You know they did. And also barb wire comes into place you know like your l. hambro mansion. We're no one cares what we need barbed wire parking guard dogs but to keep you in. That's the hard thing. Not even the people out yeah. That's so scary awful. Yeah and there's more it gets worse it always always fucking does so inflatable demi If she's gone more than twenty minutes he calls the guards to like find her. She says quote. I was never around people. He made sure of that and he kept her isolated in the studio where her best friend Who was her backup. Singer was like the only person she was allowed to hang out with. Who is none other than share. Really what her backups. Junior at the time. I know wow so the couple adopts a child in one thousand nine hundred thousand nine and then okay. Here's the fucking wacky. As whacky thing you've ever heard as a christmas gift in nineteen seventy-one bill surprises ronnie by bringing home a set of five girl twins. Why dopp did a set of five year old twins and was like these. Are your kids purchased. Well adopted i. Don't okay probably. Let's see that paper. I want i want to see that. Carfax right jeeze carfax. I didn't gloss over that excellent comment. Of course she feels like the gesture is to keep a just a bid to keep per captive in their marriage and that the children were used as pawns to keep her there. Yeah running goes so far as to purposely started using alcohol so she can leave to aa meetings. And she's like there's nothing for me to do all day drink. I have no. I am not leave the house. I have no freedom. I just start drinking and also oh my god phil puts a goal coffin with a see through glass top in their basement and promises that he will kill her and display her body there if she tries to leave him. This man is an abusive fucking piece of shit and very insecure. Yeah yeah at least problems. I secure and i've i've literally none of those things to my knowledge. Don't don't don't ask them about that. To i know and then just like zoom camera slips slightly to the left or like what is that liam with vince his name. Did you get a buck and doberman pinscher. Jesus this wallpaper so nice. Why is there so much barbed wire around the top of it. Why it's crazy. This is like we're making joe. This is a nightmare. Like where this is a. This is a nightmare castle of nightmares. This is an. She's gone the relationship that is we all know is impossible feels impossible to escape from because it's semi literally and physically. She deserves to be dear drink as much as she possibly carries. she's crater and according to ronnie fill said. Before i let you go. You'll be dead terrifying. So he also takes away all of her shoes so she can't. It makes it harder for her to run away and everyone knows all hambro. It's just like that's far from anything fucking anyway. Just so extreme like off. It's insane so when she finally does escape with the help of her mother in nineteen seventy two she has to do so barefoot and also by sneaking out through the service entrance like her and her mom studied the service entrance to see when it was possible to run away she recalls quote. My whole survival is through my mom strength. i tell other women. If you're in a bad relationship you have to find one person to help you. Those abuse was mental. Not physical telling me. I'll never be successful without him. And she says that it it made me say wanna bet. Can i just say this to yeah. Meanwhile ronnie spector is one of the most beautiful women. Her voice is so unique and gorgeous like the the you know the lead singer d my baby like legendary and the and then you know i won't. I won't spoil your thing. But then later when she is in a hit later on it's like she looks like she's twenty five. She's back entirely but that idea. He really did rob her of a career because she could have had anything she has her perfectly made for show business. She was and she was an incredibly talented and actually during their divorce in nineteen seventy four. Ronnie gives up all of the future earnings from her recordings because phil threatens to have her killed by a hitman if she doesn't so that's hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars that she has to walk away from you know which is i. Think a familiar not that much but a familiar story for for abused. Women ronnie walks away with a used car twenty five thousand dollars in alimony of two thousand five hundred dollars a month for the duration of five years all for that fucking torture and she has to give custody of the children because he would regularly pull a gun on her and threatened to murder her. She took them away. Has to be heartbreaking and sadly the children are also abused among other things phil keeps them locked in their room as soon as they get home from school every day and they just are stuck there. So ronnie's finally able to relaunch her career but finds difficulty finding chart success until she appears on. Eddie money's nineteen eighty-six iconic hit. Take me home tonight. Then which which goes on to number four and despite fills objections ronnie and the rents are included into the rock and roll hall of fame in two thousand and seven. Among other continuing successes. So she made it. Yes you did big time. I mean she was like a huge part of that video to. I was sixteen when that song came out. Yeah so ironically during all this chaos phil spector is mounting. a major comeback Spector was working with george harrison and when lennon wanted george in the studio for his record instant karma he asked phil spector to come into the recording session. They recorded it in one day. Phil spector mixed it on the spot with his wall of sound style and the single was put out in the same week. Phil spector would go on to produce further solo albums by both george harrison and john lennon and they liked his work so much so they brought him to england to fix the beatles abandoned recordings for their let it be album which was previously assumed to be a complete wash so this can historical shit you know but he is slowly beginning to act more erotic and more eccentric in one thousand nine hundred ninety three. He's hired by john lennon to produce his new album covers and phil starts appearing at the studio wearing wild costumes like quote surgeon or her karate any always has a gun in a holster on him. He's also frequently high on the inhalant. Amel nitrate aimal nitrate otherwise known as poppers. Hell yeah ok. here's an interesting fact. I didn't know. Poppers are officially used as an jonah heart medication or to treat cyanide poisoning. But they've become popular in the seventies and eighties drug culture pay ready for why as it causes the throat and amos to relax and gives you a short high so all things that we've always wanted in our yes and jokingly quote when spector pulls out his gun and surprises john lennon by firing rate off in the studio by lennon's ear. John lennon's screams. At phil phil. You're going to kill me. Kill me but don't fuck with my ears. I need them. But in a british accent he would chase john lennon around the studio with a gun threatening to shoot him while he was drunk or on drugs And of course. John lennon later dies of a gunshot wound. So that's just kind of fucked up. Throughout the seventy s and following his divorce from ronnie phil becomes more crazed and reclusive especially following a car crash in nineteen seventy four where he's thrown from the window of his car and i guess he looked dead but i a a cop found a faint pulse and after several hours of surgeries at ucla medical center for his massive head injuries resulting in three hundred face stitches and lower hundred stitches to the back of his head phil survives but he's presumably super scarred up which is why he starts wearing his notoriously outrageous wigs. Can i ask sorry. What year was that car accident. Hand seventy four. Oh wow why. Well no i just. I wasn't sure. I just wasn't sure of like where in the timeline we were. That's okay crazy. Yeah so he's already going fucking staccato. But then this kind of a massive head injury. We all know what that knock great not great not good. No so phil will go under work with other notable musicians like leonard cohen and they get shit faced on booze right twelve songs but the again he's drunk on mana schevitz which i which. I find a typical and resent that as a jew. He's being real. He's been a real high. Yeah as as a jewish man and we just get a bottle of like josh or can we get a bottle of You know what's that stella. I don't so he pulls a gun on him during an argument and you know doesn't kill him. Obviously but the album's massive failure and um cohen remembers from the studio recordings that they were that they were quote armed to the teeth. You were slipping over bullets and biting into revolvers in your hamburger so like you don't need to be that armed in studio friend. I mean it is very indicative. Of what the seventy. What was going on which was in. I would guess. And from the little that i know about like the music industry seventy s. It was like whatever the fuck anyone wants to do. They get to do plus three three lines of cocaine. A minute is successful. You will not be punished for anything. Any behavior yeah you get you get the hit going. No one gives a shit how you got it there so you shoot john lennon ear will then whatever right similar today bucket entertainment industry. Yeah oh it me of boogie nights kind of just that like psychotic. What is everyone doing. An open knows because they're all high on drugs. Yeah and also. I think poppers like as a inhalant drug like that and it makes me think of. It's just like i think that does also affect your brain like nitrous like taking great. I don't think it's your brain cells you can hear them while you're high like little Mike What are those candies pop in your mouth. Pop rocks pop rocks. Yes or what's depending on. What side of the country from around this time. debbie harry. Of course of blondie is invited by phil to his mansion. Discuss working together Shortly after arriving. She says he pulled a gun on her and says quote that notorious thing he does he stuck it in my boot and went bang. I thought get me out of here. Why would anyone be carrying a forty five automatic in their own house. Soc even she like fucking later and could tell that he was psychotic but he has a pattern of pulling guns on. People is what this is all illustrating they normalized the gun pulling. That's right that's just how he is. They say if you want the wall of sound what you have to put up with. They say that's right little lady so then. In nineteen seventy nine the ramones higher phil spector and realize that there are what they say are to. Phil's there's nice and evil so sometimes he dressed in casual clothes. He's easy going and funny and sometimes he wears a cape sunglasses and is derogatory mean abusive and only wants things done his way. One story that dede ramon tells us trying to leave the studio after a long session and phil pulls out a revolver and says you're not going anywhere. Spill spector was later asked by vanity fair. What's your greatest fear. And he answered quote. That god won't let me into heaven because i'm too evil and the devil won't let me into hell because he's afraid i'll take over Just like dude. You're not that great dude. Dial it back home. Self-help podcasts right. Yeah really go to a meeting like a very grandiose very grandiose so he made the ramones end of the century with do what didn't do well at the time but everyone knows it's like a classic aside from a small handful of other things like being inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame by tina turner and nineteen eighty-nine fill basically disappears from between nineteen eighty until two thousand and three where he reenters the public eye for the worst possible of reasons. After meeting the beautiful actress and model. Lana clarkson so let me talk to you. Caryn about lana clarkson. So she's born in nineteen sixty-two. She was raised in the hills of cinema county calif pointing at you after her father's death in nineteen seventy eight. She moved to southern california and pursues a career as an actress and model and i cannot overstate. How fucking beautiful she was. I mean like heather locklear style. Charlie's angels beautiful. Yeah she looked like Like aid vogel model. Yeah like not just like not just kind of like tv actress beautiful but yeah like she would have been in the car cars video. You know the band. The car is not a video for the toyota corolla. Or so with the okay. In the early eighty she gets bit parts in film and television then in one thousand nine hundred. She makes her movie debut as a minor character in fast times at ridgemont high in which she plays. The unexpected joke is that she's unexpectedly super hot wife of the nerdy science teacher. Mr vargas lane by vincent. Scalia valley Yes yes fuck an incredible actor. Remember that part like at the dance. He and his wife to the kids. And i didn't realize that was her. I know isn't that that's so good. So she goes on to perform in the laundry list of small television and film roles and projects like scarface. Three's company writer and numerous major commercials but her. Mitch is the main role. She has in several nineteen. Eighty sci fi b movies for producer. Roger corman who's known as the pope of pop cinema and he started a lot of famous people's careers and it made her a cult hero as she becomes a favourite at comic book conventions where she makes promotional appearances and signs autographs for her fans and she's also personally incredibly kind person in the eighties. Lana spends time every week at the hiv aids charity project. Angel food which delivers food to people who can't provide for themselves whether physically or because they've been shunned by others because of their diagnosis. So she does that weekly. We'll coming into our thirties. Clarkson's career stalls and she can't get enough work to live on anymore classic story. She makes a little money selling autographed copies of her movies and chatting in with fans behind early paywall message boards so the late nineties. I know i forgot. That was a thing interaction career. She made a living by playing these bombshells. He's like hot ladies but her desire was to be cast in comedic roles or perform a comedian and she even began work as a stand up on a stand upset. Oh and she also developed wrote produced and directed a showcase real called. Lana unleashed but by january. Two thousand and three at forty years old. She needed to make ends meet so she took a part time job at the house of blues in west. Hollywood on the sunset strip closed. now yeah. I think they knocked the whole building right. Yeah and that's where in the early hours of february two thousand and three. She meets phil spector. Oh wow okay. I know and i can't. I can't find a real explanation of why she agreed to go back to his house with him. But i bet he was persuasive. Betty was promising her he could help with her career. It sounds like because when they took they went fills driver drove them in their limo to his house and she says to him while she's exiting the she says that the driver. I'm only staying for one drink so it seemed like she was like all right. You know he was persuasive. I'll how long we can talk and wondering but probably could tell that this was not someone you know is the story of so many people in los angeles because it's a town filled with people who have gotten you know four good jobs and then some time has passed and now they're just like what the hell am i gonna do now and pivoting parlaying things into other things and this is an it is just a feeding ground for powerful men who just want to go around and pick people auditors. And it's how it is. I think the were joking about it. But i'm sure that like they were saying Like i think dee ramone said it's like there was a good side to him. Sure that's how he continued to work. He's charming. He's persuasive amicable. He's he must have made it easy for people to believe he was going to be. Totally totally has come out. Like you know shooting off of everyone's gonna go. That guy's fucking crazy so he must have been good enough for enough the time. Total people were like he's still this legend. Yeah so they can and she sorry but she if she is working at the house of blues which is a musical venue. He is a living legend in the music. Business like rationing. Something like a like a fawning over him and he shows her home and talk about her career yet. No you're right. Yeah so they go in the house. The driver stays in the in the driveway and an hour later. The driver hears a gunshot from inside the house. And then spill spectra comes out of the rear of the house carrying a thirty eight colt cobra revolver and tells the driver quo. I think i just shot her. The driver calls nine one one and police arrived to find a single gunshot to lawa's mouth and she's dead. Specter is eventually charged with murder. Here's he remains free on a million dollar bond and is allowed to stay in his beautiful hamburg mansion until his trial starts in march of two thousand and seven so four bugging years. Yeah yeah rich people. You don't have to stand krizan that's right well to to just systems. Yep the trial has shown live on television from the los angeles superior court. It's allowed by judge larry paul fiddler and it becomes a circus. Did you watch any of it back then. I remember but i didn't. Yeah i just remembered the it. His hair his daily hair. Check-in yeah basically well and it sucks because his like he was upstaging the importance and the seriousness of what was happening here so suddenly. He's walking in with this. You know it looked like he'd basically ratted his hair out of you know two feet out from his head and then that's what everyone's laughing and talking about and he's there for fucking murder. It was exactly. It was so similar in down to dominic dunn covering it. That's the oj simpson trial and like. Yeah i think everyone was at the time. Like oh shit is he gonna get acquitted to like. Yeah you know it was a beautiful woman who was killed by this jealous crazy. Man you know was fucked up so so it quickly becomes a circus and it's only partially a circus because of phil spector's crazy wigs. In these flamboyant suits he had on the whole trial itself was a spectacle the prosecution points out. That phil spector has a history of pulling firearms on women. He is romantically or wants to be romantically involved with So she was in the foyer probably trying to leave at the time when she was shot. And that's his his mo this usually occurs after he's rejected in some capacity twenty pulls out his gun and each time he points a gun at the woman attempting to leave his presence and he have any also frequents with artists in the studio. So they point this all out. There's a fucking pattern at his trial. Numerous former female acquaintances testified that he had pulled a gun on them when they attempted to leave him and his ex wife rani also testifies against him nice meanwhile these of shit despite their public thousand not to do so the defense attempts to completely trash his name in an attempt to convince the jury hears their argument that lana sh being devastated that her career was over. Shot herself in the foyer herself on purpose. That's dirty fucking business so dirty. How do you sleep at night. I think i actually remember that. I remember this these kind of stages of things happening. And when and when that became the defense yeah people were very upset about and meanwhile they didn't even bring that up until then despite and the fact that he had said. I think i just shot her. Quote was just ludicrous. I think ev nobody. Nobody believed right. So they call her best friends quote unquote. They're called testify against her character. So they're the her quote unquote best friends. Who are just trying to get book. Deals probably are being called to to fuck in testify against her character. Dominic dunn in vanity fair says quote after their declarations of friendship and love. They took their poor dead friend apart with anecdote after anecdote. Making it appear that lana was in such a state of abject despair over the failure of her life by. She's forty like it's not forty gorgeous smart enough to continually like parlay her past things into something. Yeah objective despair of the failure for like that shooting herself in the mouth in a stranger's house was a totally logical. Step for her. To take ludicrous. Yeah and her mom and sister are like in the courtroom every day having to hear this bullshit dirty. Yeah so expert. Witnesses are called including the distinguished forensic scientist dr michael bayden. Who's paid one hundred and ten thousand dollars first testimony for the defense giving scientific proof that lana killed herself. So of course both sides expert witnesses. They're fucking paid to argue. Whatever their side wants and in fact in two thousand and seven a judge rules that renowned forensic expert for the defense henry lee who. We're all familiar with. He also worked as an expert in trials For jon benet ramsey j simpson and lacy peterson. He's famous that he hid or destroyed an object from the scene either an acrylic fingernail or a towel. That blood on it to make it seem like she had taken her own life and he denies such allegations but a judge ruled that he did do it. Wow so so. They are both testifying for the defense. That lana Killed herself. I mean again. That's a thing of like they. He has more money than god. Also he. They can hire anyone they want and they the people be more and more legit seeming. Yeah get that story is god. That's dirty it's estimated that he spent between eight and ten million dollars on legal fees. Oh my god well. Here's a side note. And what an asshole to demonstrate with national phil spector a case. We didn't already know in the midst of all this in two thousand and seven phil spector goes to known woman beater turner's funeral and he gives a eulogy and during the whole thing he takes shot at t. Take shots at tina turner's autobiography saying that it was a badly written book. And then a demonized and vilified known that he be demonized and vilified. I yeah i did. He said Phil said quote. I tina the jewel. She was when i went to see. I play at the synod grill in the nineties. There were at least five. Tina turner's on the stage performing that night any one of them could have been could have been tina turner. You're kidding yourself. Funeral eulogizing while you're on trial for murder. Can you imagine being in that fucking audience but also it's the. That's one of the most ludicrous statements. I've ever heard or it's like tina. Turner turn the legendary. There's no one leg. No turner in the world or we would have known about them at the show. He's up there eulogizing. Lying his fucking. I mean that's psychotic breezy. It shows you. What a fucking misogynist he was and that he obviously just hated women. And he's fucking so yeah so he spent eight ten million on legal fees but ultimately the jury is fucking deadlocked with two gers holding out against a guilty verdict a judge the judge declares a mistrial and a retrial of the now sixty eight year. Old phil spector begins on october twentieth. Two thousand and eight so we're going to allies over again. Fortunately this time tv cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom but the case doesn't go to jury until march twenty six two thousand and nine and it only takes less than a month for the jury to find phil spector guilty and actually just gonna theorize that maybe there are some juror jurors. Maybe got bribed. Perhaps well there was like one juror. Who lived down the street from him in alhambra and like star fox. Tim kind of and it was like is grocery store. One so like clearly had like a thing of him and then there was another one who just seemed like another Misogynist you know. They didn't seem like they were judging based on the facts right right. So when he so when they're in trial reading the verdict they. They thought that feel they definitely thought phil spector was going to be a suicide risk and maybe brought in a capsule of cyanide with him so they put the security on him that if he when the verdict was read that if he moved towards his pocket they were to tackle him. No no. i'm. I'm laughing about the idea. David they would tackle chinese that tiny per permed hair unitech right but it didn't have so. He sentenced to nineteen years to life in state prison on feb february. Twenty twelve donna clarkson llamas. Mother settled a civil suit against his insurance company for an undisclosed amount which we all hope as millions and millions. Yes god playing. Numerous loophole appeals all sorts. Continue and i'm sure fucking devastate modest family for years and years and tell their all denied and two thousand. Fifteen phil spector. His health was already deteriorating just by looking at them due to various things including how his having lost the ability to speak from laryngeal pappa load. Mutt toe says Dies in the prison. California healthcare facility in stockton california of covid nineteen complications. Oh show on january twenty first like a week and a half ago. Twenty twenty one at the age of eighty one. I did not know it was covert related. That's i wouldn't even notice this. It was a passing thing until my dad's something that email. And i was like what the fuck i will say that in the email a lot of the guys acknowledged what he did. They weren't all like good. Memories of phil spector. It was like yeah. He became a monster. So i don't want. I don't want to sully the lockin veers. It wasn't allowed to listen person. He was he developed into that monster and i don't even know if they all kept in touch with him so let's end on a positive note. Ronnie spector in two thousand eighteen. While phil spector was in prison said quote. I went through made me great. I was determined. Nobody would ever keep me down again. I one fills where he is. And i'm going all over the world. Yeah is the murder of lana clarkson by the monster phil spector. That's amazing great job. Hugh someone recently. 'cause i was reading an article about this murder and someone made the very valid and very sad point that 'cause you i remember like when you heard about this story and this happens a lot i think with just are very strange media bias that we all have where it's like. Oh this really beautiful woman. She's in this old rich guy's house. Y'all know what that means radically which i hate. There's all this assumed stuff and someone was like. This woman was murdered by a man she knew for one day right like that's it's it's the nightmare it is the night and it's it's someone that she thought. Oh he just wants. This happens to me of the interesting. I bet you he was like. I'm gonna show you my x. Y. or z. Interesting thing and but just that idea that she was just there of like You know we'll see and she gets murdered is it's such a tragedy. He pulls who would fight he pull a fucking gun out like that's in also he's like rich and professional in well now no one would think that they would also you know you. Just don't it's fucked up world a bunch it really about it just darkened cheese tragedy pieces of shit so yeah it's an absolute tragedy wishing her family love and happiness. So wow there's a big one. Good i like when they're you know like updates like a recent a recent one like this just happened. I guess what cova did ci. You wanna do of buchan in her as let's do it all right. I want me to go. I you know i okay. The from riana anime. I waited so long for this. But i finally have a fucking. Hooray as a friday. We'll have finally completed my sixteen hundred hours of cosmetology school and hey party emoji with a which allows me to take my state board exam for my license after a couple of failed attempts to attend college moving back home and being completely lost in life. I'm finally doing what makes me happy. I haven't felt this motivated to finish something in so long and it's such an amazing feeling and almost twenty four remind myself. I still have time in life and i know forever woman. You're like no. But you know what i not laughing at. That is the age where you're comparing yourself to people that you went to high school or college with and certain people have are on a thing a trajectory her sir. And we're not laughing at you know laughing at how so insane much time you have your very young yes. I'm almost twenty four myself. I still have time in life and need to slow down to make myself happy. Thank you for giving me distraction during such a crazy year and also getting me through cozma school. ssd gm brianna could cellist. I'm so jealous of cosmetology school went after three months six months. I quit cosmetology school. It's fucking hard. It's hard right luck on your exams. Get real good at it. You make that good money back a riot. Congratulations okay. mine is from the name carolina. Get it says. My fucking hurry is for my amazing sister. Lauren o. r. e. n. She not only introduced me to your podcast a few years ago. Which has gotten me which had gotten me to so much to or through brew. I don't know if we help. People travel to places. We actually gave this girl right. No sorry but she is also a knick you nurse at a public concert at all she is such a hero to those babies and is also my hero and i will be going to the law school in her same city next year. Can't wait to be close to her again. Ssd gm and fucking hurry for sisters. Yes nick thank you man. You guys are heroes. All healthcare workers. Thank you really. Thank you the light at the end of the tunnels coming. I hope so yeah. This is from authentic underscore and underscore imperfect authentic. I just wanna say that. I listened to this episode while he was sitting super nervously at a breast imaging center waiting for a mammogram. An ultrasound after finding a lump a few months back Hearing stephen get so excited about saying a number we snort laugh out loud. Get lots of confused. Looks and thank you for that. Especially at a time. When i needed it and hashtag fucking array for the lump being basically nothing. The prayer hands and a lady. Dancing emoji congratulate. You can get your movies checked. Yep important okay. This one is from p k. L. d. r. c. o. Tickles demarco. i would say tickles. Demarco new fucking baby's name last sure This is a tiny hashtag. Fucking hurry today. Is that my six year. Old niece has a classmate named janet. A kindergartner named janet is so precious. And funny to me. Oh god faith a little baby janet to guard one of my best friends is pregnant and i offered her one hundred dollars to name. Her baby debra just turned me down. Yeah nice one guys. This week's goods. I must your fucking her. As i think that we all need them right now and i feel like every win. These days is like bigger than it feels bigger than before. Because they're so hard to come by or they were starting to come in the last four years. We're all breathing getting better relief and are able to sell to celebrate our wins and we. I was actually just talking to my therapist about this. That sometimes it's like there's the sigh of relief but then it's almost like as the shock wears off. You can actually start feeling your wounds again so there might be. Give yourself time because there might be like in your relief. There's a a relief feeling that also then it's like oh wise at my life. Perfect again are wise. And everything feel great and you have to just be just remember to be kind to yourself and stay present because You know people more and more people are getting that vaccine more and more You know we're looking to. We're looking toward an ending of this instead of being stuck in the middle of it with like no ride home which is such a stressful feeling for so long like that. We can tell ourselves the truth. Which is that. That's not the case anymore. And i Even though were way at the beginning of the end it's still the beginning of the end which is nice. My therapist knows. I love analogies how my brain works so she told me that like for example not drinking and suddenly being able to feel feelings and how much i fucking hate that. But she was like imagine. The backseat of your caller is filled with trash. That you've just been throwing back there and throwing back there and not dealing with and dealing with you look at it at all but when you suddenly stop your car at a stop sign out of nowhere. All that trash is going to come piling forward into the front seat and bearing you and you're going to feel like it's forever but you just have to sift through that trash and take it out of your car and clean out your car and slowly goes away so i hope that was a really great analogy. That's a great analogy and remember. Actually the reality of it is their feelings and thoughts. So they're not real right. It's not even actually trash. It's just stuff that your brain serves up to defend you and keep you safe but that actually you you are in charge of and you can choose. You know how dire you make it. How big you make it. All of it is your choice. That's very true thank you. Yeah my gosh thanks. You guys be We're so lucky to be able to talk at you every week and we can talk back at us and we appreciate that. It's nice nice commute nice. Hang yeah so you know. Stay sexy and don't get murdered. Elvis do you want a cookie.

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YOUNG TRAV - EPISODE 96 - ROADIUM RADIO - TONY VISION - HOSTED BY TONY A.

"You'll call somebody take somebody slap the shit out of somebody. Let them know that Rodeo radio's live open this. Doctor He's been full of. Got Say. This down with us the. He's down with. The. Obvious down with US Arabian French, you know he's down with. Sony with the is down with us. Banks is down with. Zero. Down with us. Jason Boys Down with. SCIATICA. The down with bus boy. He's down with US allies commission. Two broadcom son but the from the Rhody Monday. And by the way, also down what the way your Steve. Down with. At bulky tapes, it is a must win. Welcome everybody to Rome Radio Episode Ninety six just four more and we're at episode one hundred. So once again, I want to thank everybody for tuning in every to subscribe. As you know on September eleventh of this month, we hit one year. It's our one year anniversary was September eleventh and I just want to once again tell everybody thank you for subscribing Thank you for commenting. Thank you for sharing Thank you for being on the live chat whether it's negative. Or positive. You guys make this happen. It's all good. Just keep in mind that this podcast and the documentary that we release is made to allow Steve Janas name to continue to live on. This was just a simple Japanese bender from the city of Whittier who help so many people so so many different genres of music, and that's what we do here. We promote so many different genres of music This is a place where platform where we help artists if. Possible go to the next level and step forward. But once again, before we introduced my special guests, I gotta give a shot up to lose forever. This is Tasha and Rebecca. To actually made me some ceramic shock cups, there's dope and when I guess this is a social worker or sake like A. And a coaster. And the cool thing is that they have actual little mix tapes on them. So that's pretty dog. So once again, lose forever and. Once. Again, I don't want to forget and I need to get this out of brother sent me to vinyls. Okay. His name is essay forties and his album that he sent me his Chicano rap oldies so much love much respect to him or sending me his vinyls how many people are still pressing vinyl saw WanNa give a much respect to SF forties four, a blessing meet with his vinyls. For his new album other than that. Once again, I WANNA thank everybody for subscribing to Freaky Tales. We go live every Friday seven o'clock till whenever so I have a special guest coming in on Friday every week I have special guests. So make sure you've got subscribe but if he doesn't WANNA, follow us on Nijici Brinkley tells followers well. Once again, you can buy hard copies i. have a few laughed. Abayas out for those of you that are still into hard copies but without further ado, please allow me to introduce my very special guests tonight. Young traps you pretty good man. Thanks for having me. Oh Man. You know what? It's a pleasure to have you here. How would the drug over here now cut a lot of traffic. But you know nothing. Okay. Okay. You know what? I know. Today's Wednesday. But let's go back to a possibly variety. How's your weekend? The weekend mostly just family stuff still. Feeding kids. Swimming. Typical Day. Man That's good I know that you're a Green Bay Fan. Yes. How you like the way they're doing so far to know tune also awfully we can keep it going. Okay I'm a football guy. So let me ask you a football question. If you had to choose both inder prime farve or Rogers. That's That's a tough one because I was A. Big. Fire Fan younger. You know now I've grown Aaron Rodgers and I like Aaron. Rodgers a lot too so. five for had to pick I probably go fire of. My childhood you know, right? Okay. With me when the outside in a macabre man I definitely would have to go with Rogers. Okay. I just think he's got better leagues. And I think he makes mortar decisions barb gave away a lot of playoff games by making dumb decision but he's still a winner. Yeah. Can't take that away from him so But Green Bay packers good team though. now. Baseball who's your favorite baseball team dodgers the dodgers you like the way we're doing so far I this. This season hasn't been onto baseball as much as I usually am because of you know the no fancying and the way things have changed. You know recently so I haven't been on game as much with baseball lately, but usually I am but I've heard the dodgers are doing real well. So yeah, okay I'm a dodge will. Basketball. Lakers, Lakers this. You know and even though sports are still going on today. It's that we cannot attend for an example rams had opening day here two weeks ago my team comes and I can't even go. It just sucks. But oh well, what can we do and now other than that? Where are you originally from Riverside born and raised born razor. Okay. Now for for your band that may be wondering. What elementary junior high or high school did you attend? Alter I went to Fremont Elementary went to central and UNI middle school and I went to North High School and then from there I went to Lincoln continuation. Okay. Any sports growing up I played a lot of baseball. A lot of baseball okay. Now, why not will buy you like a stock you're doing man back then I wasn't I was real little skinny flacco back when I was younger. So a football wasn't for me and I wasn't ever that good at basketball. So you know I just baseball player for like eight years. Okay Now a growing up in a Latina home. What type of as as a youngster what type of music would you say you grew up with like? What would your mother will be father play? My mom put me on game on oldies whole school. You know that was pleasant Morsi played. You know when I was around her my father same thing oldies you know nice to go with him occasionally go spend time with him. He was more on the oldies as well. I just got on the hip hop hone. Yeah. All right. A lot of big family brothers and sisters I actually an only child. Really yes. Only child while I had a lot of brand over the only child I'm one of tin so. I'll tell you what Christmas and Thanksgiving Halloween or bomb. What I'm saying so but anyways other than that. I usually like to ask my guess, would they like to watch because I know doing whole quarantine many of can go to the movies anymore. So we're stuck at home watching stuff. What would you say you like to watch on a day that you're just relaxing you grabbed Ramon turn it on. I'm an ethics guy you know most of the time. So you know I'm more of a movie person you know, but my wife is like to get into the series of different shows on Netflix. So you know sometimes we get into the series I I usually don't like to do that 'cause when I do I'm the type of person that addicted to the series and then I can't stop watching them you know I'll stay up all night watching all the series. So sometimes I don't got the time for that so I just like to watch movies more okay. Okay. What type of movies would you say you grew up watching or you like now? I like all the classics and I mean I could I could wash goodfellas over and over can. Blood him that out over and over you know just the classic movies. But I also like the comedies tune the horrors. I'M GONNA big horror fan to same here. If you're a horror fan whenever you get a chance checkup freaky tales me and I, have a special guest, every Friday we just started. and all we do is talk about paranormal like. Diablo Spun told in a haunted haunted that demon possession. We talk about all of that because you know going up Mexican family that's what I was tortured a pretty much watch. You know what? I'm saying I mean at six years old I'm watching. To exercise drive we're saying. Believe traumatized by Shit. Yeah, that's when I was younger to my one of my. She was a big time horror fan. So when I go there with my mother as a kid, I'm talking like six seven years old. She always had on horror movies, and so I think that's what put me onto him and I was sit there while they were no hanging out drinking and I would just be right there six seven years old watching horror movies all day long. So I think that's how I got into. Okay. Now now I told you mind one traumatize me was the exercises was one that stood out to you delegated like, okay. I can't watch that anymore. No. I like pretty much all the horror movies, men, and the ones I used to watch for more of the not the ones that were like into theaters and stuff we've watched like I don't know if you remember dolls and. The Summer Kaplan with the female forgot her name in the movie. But like those movies more I used to watch get into. A lot of those were considered to some people like be rated movies in. A video store. Yeah. Yeah I. Got You and you know what? We used to own a video store in the eighties. So my me and my family did so I was used to those lot of those movies and it's funny because you've got people that sometimes won't even bother wanting to rant like La. Bamba. Predator. They'll just go to those be waited movies. They'll look at the box I estimate me meet me also looks scary list regain it. You know I get my mom's do the same thing but I would probably say the second the second scariest movie at least for me in my opinion was the own remember they'll. Yeah. Yeah Damn especially when lady just hungers open kids birthdays. Yeah. That was some crazy shit. But now. Growing up. Playing the instruments no instruments Netflix. I tried but it just wasn't wasn't remember the time to really or the passion to to learn it. So I never got into the answer. Okay. Okay. You know and I like that a lot of these questions because I like to see. What was it? That led you up to what you're doing today you know what I'm saying. So now as a youngster, what was your first recollections of? Hip Hop what who, who was it? What was it that inspired you to? Want to look into more hip hop for me again in elementary rapper delights I heard a song by Blondie rapture. Then after that, eventually I started hearing grammar splash on the will the will of steel. And various by etc what were your earliest remembrance be will? I would probably have to say NWEA. Yeah I had older cousins come over with their boom boxes back. Then they would be bumpy no L. O. J. e. p. m. d. stuff like that. So I mean I got into it but I would have to say I really got into it when I started hearing like Nwea. Okay. Now what do you think it was that. Was At. About. NWEA. That really really like. Made you like. If you will like that's my shit right I really liked what was it that drew you to it I guess what I'm asking. I guess the the gangster sound you know, the west coast of I was already you know living around the neighborhood. So you know ready in the environment of it, but I never had really hurt gangster music until I heard Nwea and that's that's not just started seeing rap all the time. You know it's funny. My brother used to own a club in long, beach and. When hip hop birds started coming out when I first went to go DJ. Forgot how old he was, but I was eleven years old. He got me into a club. This was the eighteen and number club and it was like on the east side of Long Beach like streak like court club after he was only chicano author. Dj. You're the guy was a white guy but the club predominant was black at the time. And, of course, they were just playing just bark as. Rape Barca Junior. Rogers all the punk style. Music changing. So here comes. It's like that by run. DMC. Okay. This was the first time as a kid every hearing somebody say now that's some Gangsta Shit and he's not throwing up there sees it was weird because they were saying that too. It's like that by run DMC. I'm assuming at that time that was like the hardest thing or the most streaking out there the time. Now I had opportunities to be in the studio when Nwea was creating those songs. I had never heard anything like that before, but I knew what what was grabbing me was cut to scratching to kicks the snares the samples and watching them do it I knew it was only a matter of time before the shared like really really blew up on. Other. Than W, who would you save where other? other groups inspired you growing up. I used to listen to a lot of easy. After the NWEA broke up I was a big easy fan and you know down the road you know bone thugs you know I'm wearing the shirt now like I was bumped, it was always been my favorite rap group. So. You know more mostly break-up broke up I was still in Ice Cube Eazy E. Dr. Dre. We're not to death row you know all that stuff. So I mean it was still under the same umbrella. Okay. Okay. Now let me put you on the spot here comes to west coast music if you had to name possibly three to five, let's say three. Of your all time favorite west, coast albums. They don't necessarily have to be even from now it could have been from when you were growing up. Yeah. What would you say were your all time? Maybe three favorites I would say, definitely pock all eyes on me. Dr Juries a chronic. And coach probably Snoop's doggystyle. Was a dope definitely classics. Yeah. Now I'll put you on the spot again east coast. Gimmie, three possibly ones that growing up you really really doug. I'd have to say he's life after death I listened to that. There wasn't too much east coast I listened to back then but if I had to name another one I, probably have to say. I listened to some Wu. Tang, also rooting I can't even tell you the name of the records, but there was some Wu Tang listened to but as far as like an actual album, it was mostly just big on the east coast and. Right now you know what and I know what you mean because Biggie was like my favorite. I regret not waiting and meeting him. Of course, we don't know what's going to happen to an individual. A manager Steve Donahue who I mentioned earlier only studio in the city. Of L., Hambro, we record Teena Marie, there's Brazil's her melamine as a frost pretty much everybody I recorded them there around I want to say in the late nineties ninety six up somewhere around there and. One of my boys from San Diego named Dj Jam. Came down here and was doing a mixed tape And he was having a guy come down and who's coming down he also Guy Congo notorious, B I g and whom the hell is that you know and this was around the time his album had just dropped. So I said he was going to meet him I don't know who got full is so I'm leaving and they're pulling into the parking lot and I just take off I come to find out later on him. So we were in the same building, but at different times and I wish I would have made him because. When I went to New York I went to childhood home because and buys mural writing best I he. at least I could ask my east coast memory. You know about big. A lot to Now, who would you say if any of today's music legislate within the last five years? Like who do you like to listen to if any? As far as the new school Ya. I've been into jeep ARECO lately I like Zepa Rico. I recently started getting into super young you know Amasi. I like some of them. Do you know Mossy definitely from the bay? As far as other people I wouldn't say they're new because there's you know they've been around a while but a lot of do some the top dog camp in. Glasses Malone. You know. People in that in that are more. Yeah. Okay. All right. it you had. If. You will a bucket list and say you know what? I wanted to do a song with these these three rappers. You probably already have because I've seen that one video and we glass Malone had mcat. And a dope song by the way. Who would you say even if they're no longer with us or still alive who would say there's three guys at I gotTA. Do a song we in. Him. definitely park easy. Okay. Definitely them to and. From now I say, Mazi Okay Lousy. What is it about him? My son likes him too. Yeah. You know what? A lot of this stuff is real. He's a he's a good storyteller you know and. I just get into his songs lot and that's what I've been into lately. I like to listen to Mazi when I'm crews in you know going somewhere. So I would definitely just say Mazi, manage just like the way story tells things. Okay. Now around what age would you say bad, you decided to take this series and just start writing. I started writing at a young age I started writing when I was. Thirteen. Fourteen years old. And from there. You writing like four pages of bars or just writing I just used to write because back. Then I didn't you know no one was there to teach me This is how you write your sixteen or however you do it. So I just used to write rhymes on papers sometimes short sometimes long but that was just how I did it, and of course, like everyone else did it I would just do it to Dr Dre beats and. Whatever other beat find and that's how I did it back then. Yeah. Okay and now that you started writing at what point did you? Start Recording now and I'm not necessarily talking about recording in a studio but I'm talking about I guys that have come here and said I, recorded mobile can Yoki are recorded on my phone or recorded in my? You know what I'm saying How did you hear Your Voice back? while like everybody else I started with a Karaoke when I was you know thirteen fourteen years old and this ex girlfriend I used to have when I was like fourteen years old I used to go to her house and she had a little karaoke machine and that's how I started doing a recording myself a little cassette tapes and doing all that but I didn't actually get into a studio. So I was about sixteen and even back then used to probably I don't even remember how I did. I, think I was looking on Craig's list and stuff back then. and. For even what was if craigslist was back then or how I did it what it was something like that I. Had advertisements of come record fifty an hour however much it was and I used to go find studios at rented hourly back then and our goal record myself like around when I was sixteen years old really what? Wow. Okay. So you recorded yourself into Karaoke. You play back that you like the way you sound it I didn't i. didn't I didn't like to win my voice sounded and then and you're doing it from a karaoke. There's no effects or anything you know this is just flat wrong. So I didn't really like it and I didn't really like it. So years passed until I got into the studio and had people that knew how to engineer and make me sound better you know. Okay. So Now You Look Studio you find the studio you go in there now. Obviously you have your lyrics ridden. Did you already have a producer over you're gonNA wrap over instrumentals. Back then a I had a huge CD collection. I was big on CDs. You know I had the books. You know who full of everything in. What I used to do is funny I used to listen to all the CDs I had. Listened to where I ca-. Fine. Four bars or two bars or whatever I could loop. Oh, you know what I used to. So I used to you know find a at the end of songs. Here's he's thirty seconds of the beat they left. I would say to the studio loop it and you know to a song over mix tape stuff. But that was how is doing it then because I didn't have any producers or anybody that would do beast for me. So that's basically how I used to get my beats. Well. So now you're wrapping the engineer listening to you is he telling you stop like we're going to pick it up after eight or? Sixteen that you know about bars already by the time, I got into a studio I more or less knew how to do sixteens. Drop my little hooks and do whatever I mean. They weren't the best because I was still learning I was young but I had caught on how to drop sixteens and drop hoops and. The whole format. Yeah. Okay and how many songs would you say you can remember that you did in the studio when you were at that age I did have I I'd say I did at least ten around there. Okay. Now you listen to the songs obviously you name them do you start duplicating and gave them away you sell them what do you do back? Then I had no idea what I was doing as far as money wise are trying to make money off of them. So basically, I just use the pass them out in the neighborhood and that all the homeys bumper. Just pass them around the hood basically. And the response from your home or the people and the neighborhood received one all they always liked to wear wrap. The time I was you know there wasn't too many rappers in in my neighborhood back then so you know whoever did you know obviously, everybody will help us a floor you know and everybody's kicking in but back then yeah, I was one of the only ones doing it. So that was actually getting somewhere was getting better and better. So Yeah. Just you know every time I dropped some new stuff everybody always make me a copy. You know make me taper stuff like that. Okay. So Now Do these songs. By any videos for any of those songs not back then? No. Okay. Around whip Tom Around would give me a time now around what year would you see this was? We'll see I had a big setback because right when I turned eighteen got locked up. Okay. So I I was gone for five years. So it kind of fucked up everything. But I did get signed before I had went in I just never had time to finish anything well okay. What what tell me a little bit about that so was at a major independent label who who was that took interest in your music it's crazy how it happened because they're are for it was familiar records. Okay back then and You know I started rapping with home. Little Saco, little blackie they were the ones basically from from my neighborhood our you know getting out there and doing things. So one day little sickle took me to the studio with them to do a song and Finally, the records was there Jr back then and he he had heard me and then he was like Oh man I like I like to stuff. You know you rapping with anybody else said I'm not doing nothing I'm just you know doing everything myself and he was watching star coming over with sickle and you guys can start recording together men and we put an album out on you and I was like cool and. It sounded great and we started win a couple of times after that and started recording. But that's when I messed up and then you took a vacation. Yeah. And there's a lot of people that come here and it almost seems like. Know Things Happen I, get it I understand it the allowed those life to get in the middle of their career, and you had to take some people to. Twelve year break you know and it sucks but that's the way it is. Don't know so now. While you're on your vacation, are you writing it all use spire to continue? Yes, I. I wrote the whole time I mean when I got out, I had a huge Manila envelope with like two hundred songs that I had written I ended up using a lot of them when I got out okay and so now you're out your next move is do you contact producer? Do you go back to exactly what you were doing? As far as Lupita beats. Like like like, how will you trying to get your stuff altered his time? By the time I got out, I felt like I got a lot better. You know and the whole time like I said I was listening to boombox in there and I was writing to bees and stuff like that. So when I got out. That's how it happened. I ended up You know I got out. Of course, I was going to the swap meets t shirts and you know the regular stuff and I ended up running into the homie he's known everybody knows cosell. Yeah. Okay. Well, Zell mean Khazal hit off instantly back then he was running a CD store at the Rubino swap me they shut it down now. But back then there was Rubino swap me and he owned a CD store there and I went in there to buy some t shirts and CD's and stuff, and we just hit it off and. I ended up town that I. Rapped. So you know I rapped for him and stuff and he was like, okay well, he's like I'm wearing something right now with the homey seven and Tony's qaulified wreckers. Okay. So he hit up seven. told me I got a guy right here manuals from Riverside. He's dope man I think he should. He should you know fuck with us seven was like bring them to the studio and Torrance and let me check them out so That's what ended up happening. Khazal took me to the studio was seven and I busted for seven and right off the bag money he would I was doing and he. Gave me a contract hellfire records. I was a I. My did. That's dope man. We're GONNA, take a little a little break right now but before we go to break. It's funny how we've never met. You know I know, Kazoo. As a matter of fact, he was here with Maria Osceola. He was here She was pushing her music. I interviewed seven. I've been knowing seven I. Think I met him in two, thousand five. I don't know if you've ever had a chance. I'm sure you did a spring Michael he passed away. Peace Micheals. The one that told seven about musical genetic guy to mix tape for you. So seven came over here and It was. The my space days I'd say two thousand, five did a mixed tape seven and but it's funny how we know the same people we have had some mutual friends but we'll come back and we'll talk about how that album did for you. You know and what came next So. Okay everybody once again. Let me make this announcement that I didn't make earlier. we will be honoring. The remembrance of slow pain. Of Soon and I'm encouraging everyone that if you knew him if you're just a fanny took pictures from him, pictures of him while he was up on stage or if you have pictures of him. With him as a family friend producer DJ whatever please send them to Rhodium radio at gmail.com. The reason is because when we honored him, we're going to dedicate a food show too sloping and his remembrance if I'm correct if I'm correct. They laid him down to arrest today. Okay. So Soon where we will be honoring him. So please send us those pictures if you have them if you need videos and you can send through email, do that but So once again, we want to encourage you and we want to make a slide show of all of those pictures while we play his music and. I'm going to have as a right now we have two guests. Their work with Tom Produce them, and we're working on another one on. Hopefully he's able to make because they'll be schedule but I'm going to have three guests that night and once again, which is an honor. And remember assure stories about slow pain. Once again, I had the honor of working with sloping I want to say nineteen, ninety, six, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven, and I'll even played the song that I did with him. So once again. Make. 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Once again, documentary dot com make sure you guys picked him up and somebody asked me if this was in W it's not NWEA shirt as a matter of fact, we were called like the Nixon w feature, Quick second-to-none, AG, High C., and meet. This was like micro. So this is what I also know in w shirts much much better NWF. But other than that. All you Internet warriors. Keep it up shoot US qucken hilarious. So without further ADO, young thrive how you doing bag man is do this. So. Help bide released your record seven around what year if you can remember. I believe we recorded in late two, thousand and four, but it didn't drop till two, thousand and five. Wow you know what I'm surprised. You didn't tell me because like I said in two thousand and five seven started. and. So how many songs if you remember did you have on that album I believe it was thirteen tracks thirteen produced by seven. Okay. And for those that may not know what was the name of that album respect the game. Okay. Any features. Obviously, the Halifax camp seven was on there Ellie Nash I don't know if you're familiar with Ellie Nash he was on there mostly the health fight camp on that and that album. And it. What was the response when dropped? It was good I mean you know like I said it was my first album. So I was actually imprisoned when it dropped because I recorded in I had got locked up again for a violation. So when it dropped, I was gone for like a year back then or however long around there. I would have thought you would have a hang for a while. The crazy days. So now it drops comes out for that one year you writing still. Still, writing okay so right You come out. What is your next move? When I got out I actually. My homie? Bundy. Got a hold of me and that's the. Owner of pinball records with little blackie little sickle as their their brother and like I, said, these guys. Childhood Friends of mine since Middle School no back then so when I got out this time now I have an album out you know the one on hell of fide and. Bundy gets a hold of me and you know he's just like, why don't you come over here man I mean. Like. You did a good thing over there with the homeless from La Torrens. But now you know come come over here and mess with us now right here in the neighborhood and so I said cool, and that's what I did after I dropped a one album with seven. How fight I went from there I went in started messing with my boys pimple records. Okay. So you drop that record now and what was the title of that record? For. Those that may be interested in looking up thou with pimple Roland Yeah I album I did with them was actually a mixed tape called gangster ways. Okay. Castaways, and then from there was just album after album because I know you told me you had about between eighteen possibly twenty obvious and that was possibly within a span of what fifteen years possibly e well. Yeah. From from to one, the first one dropped in two, thousand, five, two now. Yeah. Now, just ask why so many albums we look at people like forty just one example like DJ quick. He doesn't have maybe five to six years. You Know Jerry take decades you know what I'm saying and there's people that weight possibly three to four years. Was it just because you would just love it the music you would just trying to get out there. Honestly, I've been one of those people who love recording every day. So I started having so many songs and that's when. You know I didn't I was fresh out of prison I didn't really have too much money you know. So I was I started seeing a lot of cash. so that's what influenced me most and the love for music, but I used to record so much and then mommy both he was one of those guys always took care of his people you know. So when I gave him an album, you know he's handing me a stack of money and you know all the weed smoke back there and he took care of his artists. You know that's one thing I've always said you know shout out to the homie Bundy in free. Bundy's locked up are now but you also care me man and And just for music that kept me going ochre. You dropped a second album. Was the response better for this one than it was for the for the first one or was about to say it was about the same. You know it was just a music getting out there and. I started doing more shows when when I, when I got out and started my second third album with Pimm parole and you know at that time, little blackie was torn alive with lighter shade of Brown and stuff like that. So they would take me with him and that was actually the first time I was ever on a stage is when That Little Blackie and took me with him to do a show with Brown in. PHOENIX. And you know we're talking lay two thousand five around there, two, thousand six and always on the stage, lot of shade of Brown in them and it was big for me 'cause I. You know nobody back then it was. It was a good experience. You know I'm glad you brought up shows I was going to go I was Wanna ask you now shows when was your first show but you said was phoenix a lot of shit around this funding. You say that because my very first show that we got was in Phoenix lighter sheet around but this is one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one. And it's funny because my manager at the time who passed away recipes, he would record everything the Japanese guy with a camera. He recorded the whole show. So we got lot of shoot around when they're teenagers, you know Dan, they had their dancers or whatnot. They were not before us and then mean high went ahead and perform after them but that was our first show with. As. A matter of fact I'll make. Well. I'm not going to give it away who's in the beater soon, but you kind of just dropped hinault who you perform with. But. So now you go to be Knicks. and. Do you actually perform the song I did a verse Yes. Did a song back. Then it was a real quick sixteen that they put on and that was actually first time performing. Okay. Now tell me what's going through your mind before your verse comes up will you shaking? Will you nervous? Were you excited you like this? Honestly I was excited. I was excited I mean I wasn't new. Brown in them because I already had met bobby and Robert and so. You know when I was really nervous I was excited. I was excited. Okay. You didn't. Forget your lyrics. Did you know? No, that's one thing I've always been really good at is. Is knowing all my verse and everything. So it was easy. Okay. And and what was the response after people like there was yeah it was good. You know. Throwing out CDs and T shirts and Like I said it was a really good I experienced from getting out of prison to now on a stage. Brown so but yeah, those are good days. So after that did you to compete with do more shows after that? Yeah. We did a lot of other shows, a lot of them local and. L. Area back. Then when they had us performing swap meets and you know doing things like that. But WE WE traveled a couple of times. I. Even traveled to Arizona was seven to do some stuff to back in the day. Okay. Okay. So now you drop. Dog Tour three records with. Black Brothers Label Okay and you drop those three. Now what comes next after that? why I dropped have numerous albums what ended up happening was. Mohammed Bundy on pimple records who was funding everything he ended up going to the feds on a vacation and during that time I would say I was the only one really that was from the pinpoint label's still trumping albums consistently you know because that time little blackie had stopped for a while doing the family thing so. I'm the one that basically kept him alive for a long time. I was the only one. Okay. You just pretty much skip to push. Pushing Years Years, and years. Until eventually. Branched off and started my own thing. Okay. Now own print rolling records. Yes. When you were with him, did you ever get any offers from any other labels or any of the people that wanted to? You to come with more a lot of people wanted me back then but you know Bundy he was real known. Okay. Everybody and they knew that I was messing with him so more than most of the time it was like you know come drop something pay me for feature type thing. But as far as just to be a label I was mostly just there. Okay. Now let me ask you this because I think this is a very interesting question when it comes to. An Will let me ask you this birthday. You consider yourself Chicano rapper. I do yes. I know a lot of people don't like that title but I'm Chicano rapper. So I mean it doesn't bother me you know whether whether they labeled me that or they own. It doesn't bother me any type of way ochre. And the reason why I bring that up because there are people say that they don't. And I don't see nothing wrong with that either because they just want to be recognized as an artist. I get it. We, can't get away from being Chicano. We can just where we are. But now you notice that we don't label. He's a producer. He's a Chicano. DJ, she's a chicken dancer. It's always just a rapper that we kind of put under that umbrella. For example, when I WILL EGYPT Nobody ever said A. High see wizard DJ. I will just to deejay and producer. My my point that I'm trying to make is. I understand when people say I'm not gonNA rapper because and here's what they mean. Rap that you'll water. Let me hockey on. That's what people think. She kinda rep supposed to be but I understand what you're saying you're cheating on Iraq so there's almost two two different but. I don't know if you know what I'm trying to say yeah. No, I know exactly what you're saying. You know a lot of rappers do rap like that I never have right. You know I don't even know how to speak Spanish my understand it, but I can't speak it. So I've never been the type of rapper to use a lot of the Spanish words or you know all that. But no nothing against the ones that do I've just never been. And to finish off my point, not to try to be little of what we call Chicano rap because I am doing Chicano rap documentary. But, you notice that we never call like MCA. He's a black rapper. I. Mean Look how silly that will sound to you know we never do that but we do that to ourselves in a sense and it's not. That it's a bad thing but in people minds that are. They right. A weekday. Okay. Laura type of stuff who they just saying. You know you don't rap like that. But it's all good whatever. We're going to be discussing covering some of the subjects in the Chicano rap documentary, and there's always going to be different opinions were people what is Up so now. My next question to you would be is what is GONNA wrap? You know I think they gave it that title because you know we didn't come 'til after you know the blacks had already established whole hip hop scene. So I think when rappers came out the she got rappers like you know Kid Frost Frankie or whoever was doing it back. They showed a brown since we were I. You could say different you know they just it as Chicano Chicano rap. You know that's what I think just being the race like I said some people like to some people don't I don't mind but I think that's where they label it because we came in after and that's why they might have said it like that I? Mean that's what I think. I mean. Yeah. I mean you just voice what what you think your opinion on it. So. Now, you told me between eighteen to twenty albums. Is it possible that you can name all of them? I probably could. We would. Go. To The Third. The third album called you remember third album was called haters never prosper. Haters never not too good as title haters, Prosper now. I know why you would get pretty much self explanatory, but that could still be applied to today. And and you know I'm had guests here that have been hated on by males females. You know even female the beheading on by mills and and we talked about how? It's so sad that. The hate. For us being chicanos does income from blacks doesn't whites doesn't confirmations but who does it come from? From our own all the time. And it's very, very sad that there's times when I look at whenever I don't respond. But there are times that I'll be bored and I'll just on my youtube, my radio youtube and I just kind of just skimmed through the comments and I'll look at some of the most horrific comments that people want to. Leave for the person that I'm interviewing and even sometimes towards meeting people don't even know me. And sometimes I'll just leave him there just. So other people can see what we're doing to each other. And then we wonder why we've never climbed that ladder why we never moved up. That's why through this platform we try to. Shine light on talent shine light on artists whether you're singer Oldie singer whether you're a rapper whatever, and hopefully, you can take the next step forward and this is all just exposure lecture named get out there but people I guess he they're having a bad day. We'll get on here and. Bob Blonde Internet warriors saw it always comes from the fake accounts to they never do it from their own no of course not because then. You don't want data don't want you to catch up to them. That's. So. anyways. But you know I'm not going to pay them. No my we'll leave it at that somebody told me. You shouldn't even talk about that stuff. No but I think that sometimes when it comes from our own people should be addressed. Because they should stop. But anyways I've never go on snoop's live and like you suck. That's not going to do me no good but anyway, let's move on. So now how many albums where you with a? Little Black Brothers label that you ended up leaving. God I would probably. I would save. Eight around there. Now. So far. Out of all your albums. Buy had a twist your arm and ask you. What would you say is your favorite one That you could say that's my shit right there. There's a couple but. Okay give us what two three hour have to say. One of my albums, confessions of a dangerous mind. I was real happy with that album because I was a time where. I just I started messing with some good producers and. You know I started. I met a guy named Jose who used to rent a studio and Corona called studio. One. And That's at that time. Mr Shadow was recording a lot at that time. And I actually got introduced I had been to that studio before, but it was like to do business and I left I never really met the owner nothing so. I, ended up talking to shadow and do business with shadow a shadow of vitamin to the studio, and from there the owner was there and we just hit it off and I started going there all the time and shadow used to come record every I wanna say every Saturday or Sunday. and. So every time shadow was there I was there and. That's why if you listened to that album and the one that follows are called one of a kind shadows featured on both of those like eight times on each album. Yeah. Because at that time you show, we're real tight there. So we were always recording together. That's shadow here. Twice I really like your shoot man a little one. Little one here twice I really like his stuff I, think maybe three times maybe I really like his stuff too. I show love to all those guys in San Diego from nine how to royalty and you know Pitney let me say this and A lot of people think that when I interview people. A new previously many of them. Are like ninety, six, percent, ninety, seven percent is the first time I met him today the interview you know. So when I say like I've known Royal Rotea since I think we known each other by phone since the nineties but we just met for the first time that the interview and we had almost a six hour interview. It was weird. Novels, but because he got drunk an Oriole you're watching. But. So much loves much respect to San Diego love with those guys. But back to shadow are really like a starved he had a very humbling story when he's at how he got started. So those two albums that you did show that he was featured on how those do they did real good. They did real good and I had a response to those albums. You know I had had made hard copies Preston started doing my thing with those and you know I was lurks still learning at that time the digital movement asked a learning. Things about that. But you know happy with those albums in that that time like I said meaning shot gotten pretty tight at that time and little one two little one. He's been my boy for a long time. He little one actually jumped on one of my albums when I was with Halide back in the day, he had dropped a song before my album without a fight, but I never had used it. And so when I got out, I ended up using one of albums down the line but that's how far me and little one go back and he's another one too that after I left Pam role I started messing with little one. Little one actually signed me to sickle records for a little bit Oh. Okay. Yeah Wow. Now did you ever try? To get on a major label at all. Honesty that time I didn't really know too much about the business side of the game. So I was basically just going with the flow with whoever was paying me and you know doing that type of stuff but. I made sure that the people that I was messing with at that time you know they were taking care of me saw it wasn't ever no complaints. Now, now, do you feel your career right now that the best is yet to come or do you feel you're like? Tone I. Think I'm going to stand stadium looking for the new sound or the you you got something don't Cook in for the Benjamin. Moore was I'm always in the studio like I said, I'm always working doing stuff you know so. I wouldn't say, I'm at a standstill sometimes I get that writer's block where you know I just don't feel like recording and I do the family thing for a while and stuff like that but You know I'm just taking it day by day man and see what's to come. You know I am getting older. So sometimes I get that you know don't really like working on it or whatever. But then I get that urge to do music still because I love doing it so much or think of rhymes in my head and I'll start riding and I go writing the songs. So you know I I really don't know what's to come or you know where I'm going GonNa take but I'm just going with the flow. I am. Now during this time that you're recording all of these records who are some of the producers that possibly come to mind that you used while always for a while. Now, I say for over a decade, I've been messing with my big ray from West like music. He's he's always been one of my producers right? They're always working with him. I work a lot with Chris. Gun from Orange County. He's the one who produce Dowse Daddy I'm a lover Thug Okay Okay so CG shot, shadow CG I've been he's also who produced A. Coach. So Yes. So CG he's also the one who produced the video Gabor Glasses Malone and MCA buck adobe passbook and song. Thank you. He produce I one and. During the time I was going to studio one, you messing with shadow allowed back then aside blaze from oceanside. He was producing a lot of the beats back then for me too. So I mean there's A lot of producers you know I've even done. Some does some work with fingers back in the day you know different producers the ear retried to hit up. But I just send him out there like maybe tell me if you've heard of them obviously battle cat. Dj Quick maybe a Red Rag. Maybe. You're. DAS-, you're trying to hit up those guys beats and what was the response if you did you know I've talked to them a lot I never really asked him for beats. Studio DJ quick. I've been in the studio with most most of the the rappers that that produced. But no, I, never really talked to them about their beasts I've just never got got got a chance to Roy. I still remember the day you called me. Your. Sugar the bone. And it's funny because the next day we talked and he goes on game days some dates gave them today. I. Had Sugar pre-booked. Okay. and. Then I guess we had a close back down this whole corona again. And that's what he said can do. It can do it. Believe me I had a lot of artists that have canceled and many times when I feel my calendar. You Give People Oh, man. They don't realize that when you're booking people, you have to shuffle people around with people cancel. Yeah. It kinda sucked because you know what I you know. I could have guys like. And sugar pre and Eiji and those guys here. But due to this pandemic, a lot of people don't WANNA come out. Yeah. sugar-free is is one of those people who's really cautious about anything from my understanding his son Adcock Rona virus and stuff. So it's made him real paranoid to be around people and. I think one of the things that kind of stop us from doing a video to the track that we did because I had planned I had talked to him about it and he said he was with it and all that and we recorded the song finish that, and then we were supposed to drop the video, but he's real sketchy about going anywhere being around people. So after a while I, just kind of. gave up on it for now. So you. Mean sugar-free dropped. Yeah. Okay and windows that. I'm actually dropping on a new EP that I got coming soon no release date yet, but it'll be okay we'll talk about it at the at the end because I want to know a little bit more about about that. Now, you dropped a single. Just. Recently, correct. It. Was a clip that you tag me in. Now's listening to today that's actually a video that just I just did. The other day when my boy big Ray. He's always the one behind the camera. We most of the time we did a new video. I wouldn't say it's a song because it's more like a freestyle type rap. There's no hooker nothing is just like battle type rap we dropped it in. We actually wrapped up the video today I wanted to release it today or something just get it out there. Well, one thing you do have dope visuals and told boy already did a great job. It was funny because. I was going to come about video on facebook. People wanting that people. would. Say about you is this. And everybody was agreed guy got boers. Dagga bars. Okay and is true and people were commented on individuals and keep people coming up and under girls. So, it was always always good to have girls in there obviously. So but. So Now Back, to your albums. You're. You were going to give you gave me one or two albums that were you said, your your best. Give me one more. Would you say? Album how would probably have to say Graveyard shift I elected album la okay and what was. The. Person You said it was about the time you were going through things. One what would you? What would you say? What was it a bottle of levels that stood out out of eighteen or twenty hours that you did? Okay. Well, the other ones had mentioned there was because it was during that time show got tired and I have new producers and I think that gave me A. Confidence in, you know wanting to work more but the reason for graveyard shift is because that time and this was before those times. You know I started working with artists on that album. I got frost. You know had winter Hennessy lounge over the GEEKY and Tony G over there in frost made me over there and I ended up dropping short-track with Frost. So I was happy about that at the time got baby bash on that album. Had met up with Bash when he was here in Kelly and we dropped together. So I was happy about that one. Mardi. Obey was on the hook allow one. And you know so that that album at that time you know it's messing with a lot of new artists getting more and more into the game. So that's one of the reasons why like that album? Okay. That's dove. Now you mentioned a lot of heavyweights, you know for ause. Baby. Badge Mr. Shadow. Little one you know although artist and. The reason why wanted to obviously you can but you said. A wanted you to name all those albums. In case people alter may still want to get those albums but I guess, what did you do you? Sometimes if you really want to know all of them, we can go a night soon, just typing young thrive and majority of them will pop up. Yeah. Okay. Now, let's talk about your name before we go to commercial young has always been your street name rap name or. How did that come about? Well, growing up my neighborhood aimless that I've yes. Oh yes. You know. So when I got time to get ready to excuse me when I got ready to drop an album. there was already obvious out. Okay. You know he used to wrap from the from San Bernardino. So I didn't want to get the two confused, right so. Seven was like, why don't we change it up when we call you love. You know and it's kind of crazy how it happened because when I ended up getting locked up when they released it it, it came out. And I don't know how that came about how. I don't know seven and them came up with it or what but we had if you listened to that actually while we'll even on the album in the lyrics sane enough. So I don't know why they released like that. He has said of just they they pronounced it with a T. R. A. V. A.. So. That's how I album was titled Even, though that wasn't my name. Yeah Okay Okay and Well. You know what had had had you ever WanNa revenue before that I like have you gave yourself like I'm GonNa, call myself this I'm GonNa call myself that or did you just stick with just like I just stick stuck with RAV? You know what I mean I like I said I wanted that at the time because I was the hood name but you know seven was eglise just call you know young it off or you know however they wanted to put it and I was like man Who I was young at the time was in my early twenties. So we ended up just one we're young twelve that'll work. We're going go ahead and press pause right there. When we come back I, know you wanted to share something about meeting and working with sloping. So. We're going to be honoring him soon. So it will be just as it would be awesome. If you shared with that ensures something your memories with you know defense of your memories with him you know so. Okay everybody once again let me remind you that we will be honoring slow pain once again here. So if you have any pictures with him if you're a family member And you have pictures with him or of him up on stage in the studio whatever the case may be. Or if you're just a you took pictures of him, email it to us already read or Radiologyinfo, dot com, and we'll try to. We're GONNA try to make a slice what we will make a slide show of it and played. Well, we play his music today or the night that we. Honor him here Rhodium radio so without. Once. Again, with the do please once again, we're GONNA take a ten minute break. We're GONNA come back. So make sure you call somebody take somebody slap the shit out somebody. Let them know that young trials in the mother for building and we'll be back make sure he's described a freaky tales don't fuck around come back ten minutes. All right everybody we're back now to golden hour once again, we're rolling pop in dependence a dropping I'm sure you're most right about now. anyways. I started drinking. Meet Mitchell Allah blast. Oh blasio I don't know why but I opened his bottom started shooting everywhere a champagne bottle. I don't know what you gave me but I'm going to sit on that. anyways. So once again. Pick up the high C. album. Pick up the MIC stakes eighty booming bass eighty, six, the makes. Pick them all up at dot com mix read dot com order your shirts to shirt that of sporting right now is one of the ones don't buy pictures of all of us. When we first started this so anyways, this job Bundy right back into with. Younger of how are you? A student how you enjoying you drink during. Like him and it's one of my favorite drinks I'm usually a beer drinker, but I haven't had a beer going on two months. So Status Mississippi on the champagne really now, why was the health reasons or originally for health reasons you know just had a slowdown and? Just, a champagne and some it's a little different feeling. You know like sipping champagne rather than just drinking beer after beer. So so some different dot I'm not a champagne guy and I'm not a wine guy. What kind of champagne is that with people that may be wondering if you're drinking this is space. Okay and since I believe it wasn't accused Jay Z. Okay, so you can't buy like that. You know innumerable. North recast or no. Most. Of the time just set a BEV MO or one of the places us out of different alcohols. Okay. I'm just a beer guy. I'm not released like a fancy top of drinker every once in a while like. To Scam Jamel, my boy EMC bunch must love and he'll buy me a drink called. That blue drink. Gives you the blue fucking tongue down motherfucker fuck me up one day. Asked where to you? He drank maybe like six of them like within two hours. And I was driving rain bumpy music with the windows down. I literally had to stop twice just pour water old my fucking Hambro. The next morning my head was pounded and I forgot where I parked my car. When I said, okay, I got to slow down because the also means how the OS by. It almost happened to me so anyways. I've been announcing that. We're going to be a honoree slow pain. You know when? One. Of Ours dies I believe that we should honor them and remember them so that the name will never die in continue to live on what did people supporting him like it anymore or not it doesn't matter is we show them love and you know what I like to give people flowers while they're still alive who okay. We have talked. And I'm going to share this when a little bit more in depth when. We honor him but we have talked. He was already scheduled to be here, but he never made it so. you shared with me that you had to work with them. If we could rewind a little bit. Can You? Share with those how you first met him. I met him to. The home is over that pimple on records you know. So paint has been working with them for many years since little blackie came out with his first album when he was like sixteen years old, you know. So that's how they're the ones who introduced me to slow and I even got on a couple of tracks slow back in the days when pimple on was putting out a lot of compilations and stuff. So I didn't actually have a truck with slow for my album, but I was on songs with him on their compilations. Okay. Okay. So it was never really your Solo, project And how many songs would you say that you did with him? I want to save three. Okay. Would you happen to remember the titles of the songs in case people want to? Uh spotify or Google or. You know what's crazy is that the two songs that I did was slow on the pinball the records compilations I don't remember the names of them but I believe they're on the compilations called it's hustlers world and it's a houses volume too. So you could probably catch those ones on there. The song that I did with him I actually went to a studio somewhere in La I don't even remember what city was so many years ago. And, we had to track for my album. And We're talking many many years ago and that. Song that I had on a computer crashed on me and I lost that Song Oh. Yeah. So and I never got it back so. Yeah and I wish I had that song now you know. So you know that song would have been. I don't think I'd never even recorded on it. What I did is I went to the studio. He dropped verse for me I took it back with intentions to finish it and my computer of crashing and it was not hard and I was the only copy of it. Me Being a producer I have to ask was there ever possibly a rough? Mix On that. You might have put on a cassette or a CD side. You know I thought about that and I think I did but I never found it. I was type of do that I had thousands of CDs everywhere and especially burn ones at the time you know and I I could never find it wa can never find it and I ended up losing track well let's hope that maybe one day one day you're you're just skipping through And you come across it so. Where were you? When you found out about his passing. I actually seen it on instagram somebody had. Posted up that he had passed away I believe it whiskey from Hennessy Lounge or somebody I posted and I seen it and the crazy thing is I had just talked to him like two and a half weeks ago prior to his passing. So you know he people seen slow had posted a video that he was back in the studio doing it again, I seen it. And you know right away I hit him up and I said, Hey, slow what's up man? You know you're back see him happy for you. You know because we talked to every now and then but I was happy to see him back in the studio. And because. Everytime, we talk always told him slow. You need to get back in the studio man you want to track and he always told me rapping right now Ma'am during the baseball thing or you know the coach thing or whatever you know he had going on but this time I seen him in the studio and I talked to him and I just you know message them and I put we need to get back in there and he was like Aruna, I'm with it I'm back now. So good to be back in the studio with my kids in here and it's a beautiful thing. It's a blessing. I mean who would have known two and a half weeks after I just stopped talking to him he's in pass away. You know and I it was was sad you know what I'm saying because slow is a good guy man he he always had good respect when he talked to me and he was always a person that listened and. Even to our conversation, we had right before his passing. It wasn't just about music. We went back and forth about our health issues in. Some of the things were we have the same things going on and he was just talking to me about you know what he's been to what he's beaten and you know he was just he was real happy to be in the studio he seem real happy and and then we ended up with our I assume brought us get in the studio track together and he was all with it. Yeah, it was real. Really really really sad and I will say this and. That day that I found out a really fucked me up real because like what you said. Two. Weeks. Prior. Before his passing. Two weeks prior, we were on the phone together. A week before we were texting I still have our texts and her DM's. And night like a really really fucked me up like. It was really hard man. You know it's kind of like you know how a lot of people were not colby passed away. A lot of people are pretty much around the world. Yeah. Okay. But what slow because being in the studio with them in the nineties senior from time to time we talked on the phone like you said, he always had respect for you had a respect for me. And it was just hard because you know the young man young dude and one thing that I do like to preach is good health you know what I'm saying. We do as we get older you know you mentioned that you slow down on the beer he moved onto this. Believe me I. tried to drink stop drinking these writer but it's Kinda hard when you having a good time you know what I'm saying yeah. So I try to stick to the healthy eating. The healthy lifestyle water has to be your best friend and I always tell my boy johnny that he goes. There's plenty of. Water or you're not with me twenty, four, seven but. Believe me, I throw a minerals in the water just we can change the flavor, but you drink enough water. That's like natural energy somebody asked me and the reason why I'm. Sure. Some of your tips. On what you do to stay healthy I work out days a week I try to eat good as much as I can. When I say try lease sixty, seventy, I used to be a ninety. And just one sheet day now with like cheap day like two days out of the week you know or whatnot but. As we get older. We need physically. Health wise would be getting better. Not Feel as you get older man, it's completely different you know and. I try to do the healthy eating healthy thing and I just can't. You know it's really hard for me because I'm so used to eating out and eating good and growing my grandmother you know who is constantly making good Mexican food all the time and everything, and you now the Wi fi at home constantly making good meals and it's really hard to eat healthy but I'm on the same tip. And even though I'm sure we both love Mexican food. A whole nobody gets mad at me because today we live in generation has give a flag but easily offended at everything. Okay. A. Lot of metric forbath for us man you know like we love port. Chile whether it's a amrried or just on a play. Simply, holders water to the communist era. Steak meat takes longer to digest the world bodies. That's why I try to stick to fish chicken, Brown, Rice, and. Steamed vegetables or whatnot. Allow Sushi. I love. You know. So maybe one day we ought to get to get. anyways. Own Sake I gotTA HAVE SAKE loves soccer team. Yeah. You don't but that's the only time that I could drink it with. I just can't buy. Me Neither yes either eating eating some type of seafood or Japanese food or something. Yeah. Yeah. Me and me and my wife always at the Sushi. I love Sushi that's one thing I could eat all the time. Yeah exactly. So okay. So Now What the public wants to know, what are you dropping? What are you working on is an album EP. Any Any features of Shit a little bit of light on what could people expect from young. I got an album this should be dropping. Within. The next couple weeks it's titled California Legend. And I'm very happy with that album to I've got some really good features on that album. I actually got a single with snoop dogg album. That I got coming even got a track with forty on that album. there's a few other ones. Yuck. Mouth on their. From the loonies. There's a few more two good ones on there. You know hard to remember the moment passes Malone MCA. King crooked crooked I I think he's on that. You know it has quite a bit of features on Whom you know and if I'm correct one sugar sugar-free, the one was sugar free is on my EPA. I'm working on right now. It's almost finished But like I said, I, got the California legend up and dropping so that when I might put out maybe towards like Christmas time around there. Okay. So just to get a straight EP and album album. Album in the brochure possibly next twenty twenty, one maybe December January resum bolt maybe yeah yeah. Oh. Wow. So that's that's what it was like an album and a half. Yeah. Okay. Now I ask you which do you like better or the? It's a tough one because I like I like the EPA working with sugar free was was you interesting? You know always been a fan of his music so you know I like the song on their produced by fat beats from Pomona shot on fat beats. But if I had to pick between the two. Album I like a little more because it's more songs and you know more rappers more. You know spree dove album. Okay now. My Be Arctic question. Have you ever done any songs In case fan don't know. Any songs would any females? Females Know what. Females that maybe we're coming up in the game but didn't really make it. You know just you know homegirl is that you know used to drop bars and stuff but as far as female mainstream rappers not really but I was. Trying to get a song recently with the Lady of rage, okay have always been arranged fan and I like her music. So maybe you might see that soon. Okay. Okay. Now let me say this I got a lot of them I say I got me rephrase that. I know three different female. I don't even think they even know each other. I think. My opinion there about a year away from really blooming I think right now they're still that green stage like you hit a talent, you hear the voice, it's all there but you need to sharpen that upscale you know. what I'm. GonNa do is. I think when when they're they're on Holler at you and I'm GonNa tell you listen to him maybe you do a song with them because. They're very young girls and. I like to shine light on females I came from an era in the nineties where a lot of females got the end of the stick. Dues would say know how many record you into things with them nothing ever came out and I saw a lot of. If you will careers go down the toilet because hooking up with the wrong people. And you already know how businesses just business this music business cut man. Is cutthroat tap to say, sometimes, there's just no different than regular dope game. Yeah. You know people stealing gnarliest people stealing beats. Biting ballers. Back in the day, we just say he nibbled on my scribble accurate my lyrics. But Palm but I don't even know people even buildings to the. Sometimes I gotTA I. GotTa be careful when I talked to a younger generation when I, say you sound like a broken record many of them don't know what that is. Yeah. So what are we say today? You sound like a glitched. IMPE threesome. Okay. So Now You got the EP. Californian legend Dowse, the name of the album. And the EP is named the PS title the fight survival. Survivor okay now. Do. You plan to do obviously he has visuals for many of those songs or yeah. Well, the the I will California legendary has a few videos. It has A. Song idea with MCI glasses There's also a song on there with your mouth who also has a video to two so that that I'm really has two videos to. Okay. So you drop in the single single and then. Yes. That's good. That's good. Because today I mean a lot of rappers that. They just drop single single single single single. That's the way. People do a lot nowadays. Especially money-wise. You know what I mean. It's a lot better. I think from my experiences but you know the videos even that I did for this album with one with a class and where we Those videos were done late last year and the album was supposed to drop a lot earlier this year but due to the corona stuff and things being you know lagged on. So you know it's coming out now. Okay you know what? Big. Time but I had to ask you something do to this pandemic thing. What is one thing that? You Miss Doing that you can't do now do to this whole pandemic the restaurants you know like I said I'm a big Foodie so I love to sit down and have dinner with my wife you know and the whole coronavirus has made everything so difficult. and. There's no telling when when it's going to be over, you know what I'm saying I. Don't see it ending anytime soon a lot of people think, Oh, twenty twenty GonNa and it's going to be different and twenty, twenty one. But honestly, I don't see it. Changing for a while. Because this is the first time that's. Happened, globally. A I have a friend that sad to say he went to Peru to girl. and. I told him. I WANNA go right before they locked everything down on I'll be back. I'll be back. He lived on Friday on. Monday. He still there months and months so. He can't come back. So Oh well, what do you do So you said eating now did you have any top of tours shows or anything lined up to promote this of album more which you had to drop in at the time I didn't because I was trying to finish the albums and actually when it was released promoted then so I didn't have any shows or anything like that. I, haven't even done shows in a few years. I just kind of. Such in and out of music and stop stopping for a while and going back. But when I had dropped his album I was trying to get more back involved shows out of state. You know. I. Even had talked to some people might have had some things lined up but due to everything just messed everything up right Now. I know you said you were in and out of music. What do you think it was? Was it just a family life or was it just these tired of tired of the business or? You know what did he was that kept you going back and forth kept you take your breaks? You know? Mostly. The family thing you know I have I have two daughters who will have custody of so you know I know I'm full time daddy all the time to you know I have attended a twelve year old daughter daughter so. A lot of the time it was family and then you know I got married recently. So you know me and I'm always with her doing things and. The things that made it easy to go back and forth is where the have studio to. So not only do I rap I, record myself, I, engineer I, do all that stuff too. So it made it easy just to drop music whenever I wanted to. Okay. So you're producing as well or not not not beats just just mostly like. Whenever I get beats from producers. All record myself and a good enough to engineer myself. I'm not saying the best. Engineer but I do know how to engineer enough to make myself. Sound good. Put out stuff. Man I'm glad you said that because I always encourage a lot of these younger generation tool of learn don't depend on someone if you can learn how to engineer these, how to record yourself who do go off order where you don't have to wait on somebody you know because with me I just had a machine what a floppy disk I had a week. I had to buy a two inch reel to get time get an engineer getting musician, and then we put the wrapper to come and pay. The guy to play and it was just a lot. So when I tried learn how to engineer then it started taking away from my talent on producing an producing started taking away for my DJ skills. So it was too much and I was like you know what? Let me just my lane let me just do what I do best so now Let me ask you something that I I don't see too much today amongst rappers. When you do shows when you have done shows lately, how long would you say your shows are? I would say. Ten minutes or so. Okay. Okay. Now, you ever have a DJ better. Not. A said DJ I've never had I've always just show tapes with me. Okay. Okay. Not now other than because possibly those shows are possibly not long enough. Because back then when high-seas to perform, it was always twenty twenty five minutes. Okay. So we have time to setup turntables we had time contract and all of that. Could understand. We have an I have time to do my DJ SET I, know today. I've seen what promoters give guys five minutes. Yeah. You know and to me that I'll be honest kind of insane 'cause I've never heard of that. You know that's why they can afford it. Put fifty guys on one show like well, no wonder five minutes and they're making money off of everybody on the. Six Oh. That's probably what You know. Now, you mentioned earlier some of your favorite albums. You mention of the East Coast West Coast, who are some of your favorite performers. If you could think of some that you might have seen perform doesn't matter what type of genre of music and then I'll give you some of mine as far as performers I mean I never been to one live but I mean, I've watched all the pox old you know concerts and everybody and I. Always I've always been a huge fan I mean also, I've always watched his performances and all that. snoop another one you know I just love whitewashing him perform with when he used to be back in the death row days with the whole movement. and as far as other performance. Mana. That's mainly who I just washed perform most of the time. Okay. I'll give you four. And I want to say that I was a part of one of them. I saw this one perform Monday. And he wasn't even supposed to be there this was at the palace in Hollywood I want to see Hollywood and vine in the eighties and that he will just in the building de la soul was performing I got to see. Dallas. So perform of platooning myself and the first album. and. They called okay or is one they had a guy beat boxing. And I'll tell you what he did like about four or five songs and he turned out the whole show he was supposed to perform. But it was just electric. Him Just acapella a beat in and the crowd singing back his lyrics it will just buck an amazing. Second, group that I've seen that just. I mean, I can still see them perform. NWEA here in Anaheim to Anaheim celebrity eater were made it so unique they had literally had a run through the people to the crowd to get to the stage stage would turn around. and. Let me take some every see in that motherfucker good seats and you're talking about. Do thrown up the crib signed competent in the House I. got to see the electric crowd of counting in the puck and house into eighty, eight, one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, and I was backstage just on the night I met Jerry Heller. The deal see. So I was there in the Dixon's looking at this concert was just fucking amazing. The second was it was a I would have to say. Digit Quick Seconds and on Adrian High Sea piracy will go on first. Secondhand on x eighty in quick and we were tear those bucket shows up because. are able to just dropped nine, hundred, ninety one. So we all tour together. And I would say the fourth one Cyprus. Brazil's first album. Incredible performance by those guys role I've always been. Incredible. So now I assured that to say this and for people that may be listening I. Have a guy one time. told me. Tony Word, on can I do. This is my first shoulder non-performing. What. Can I do? Like. What type of advice and I was nervous? Okay. Don't look at the people. Look straight to the back to. Concentrate on. Hewlett because you are going to forget them. In, case you do forget him talk to the crowd. Listen to the beat pickup picker backup you know I remember high see one time for. One of his lyrics and it was right up to the hook of sitting in the Park Nicer your craft Oh what shall what he knew already. Desk good thing about having a DJ because he you know pickle right man either so I encourage people. When you go out there man give it your fucking best man give him a fucking. Don't show people are there to see you. People are there to see like, say you do show maybe there's only fifty people there and you may think you know what? People don't give only fifty people, but imagine if all those fifty people really just came to see you as you you gotta give them those people their money's worth. So I encourage everybody when this thing opens up and shows come up, give people their money's worth. You know gay people because anything they'll remember your performance so ANYWAYS, managers want to encourage you on that that. GIVES US some don't show Oldman. Now. Last question. Then we'll give John we'll get out of here. Now I really think about this. I tell you. I'm going to give you fifteen minutes. I'm a promoter. Fifteen minutes and you're going to go on right before frost hyping up for him. Now. You have so many albums out. What five songs can I expect from you? I would probably have to say. While with features just so lower doesn't matter it doesn't matter. While a lot of the new songs I've been doing. I would say the song idea with emceeing glasses malone definitely that track. Maybe, one of the songs I was different than I did with Bash I got a couple of bash but one of the ones I did with bash because on that one, it's more of A. Radio type. You know not so much on the gangster Shit and west coast. Radio for the ladies? You. Know saw probably picked that one. I was sad like the track that I got on the California engine album coming out with yuck mouth. Ma from the loonies like that song a lot. As, far as a couple of Solo tracks you can look back in the days maybe I got a solo track called. Riverside made me. You know there's more of a solo song just made me representing my city and you know talking about that. And Find Picker last one. Probably, one of the songs I either show were little one because. I made a lot of hope songs with both of them so. I I always tell people make sure. Your last song is the song that you believe that people came to hear you for you know what I'm saying. Of course high-seas last, always going to be I'm not your puppet. We're not GONNA do that one I. But. There's gotta be that one song so I was told if you don't have it. Make one. So when you do perform people were saying that's the song the here. Yeah. So anyways man other than that anything that I didn't ask you that maybe you want to share you want to promote. Anything you WANNA talk about. It just just remember too besides the two got coming out I also got a group album coming out with my brother seldom seen. tattoed disrespectful. So that should be dropping soon two shutouts Bros out obscene and you know. I'm very excited about that album. We've got a lot of features on there too. We did a song with a young, but from G unit on there. So you know a Lotta dope music managers also coming out with his solo album soon, titled Mixed Emotions I'm putting that out for him too. So that album is really really. Don't. At this point show you WanNa give you want to give you the video guidance shot always shot some big ray manny's. Then my producer and my video guy for years. Now we've been rocking tenure strongman. He's like a brother to me. So shots would be ray. you know shot outside. The Home Chiro from compass most wanted. You know he's been rocking with a Salah they Lee. Another silence of my Bro- seldom man you know he's been going through a lot of hard times right now with his family and stuff he was supposed to come with me tonight. But due to family issues, he could make it's but a shutout to him on hope everything is better for him and shot everybody that I've listened to my music man I appreciate it I've been getting a lot of love lately and even when you announced that I was coming on the show, a lot of people were messaging meantime either excited and they were GonNa rock with it and watches. So you're not shot up to everybody that follows me visits to everything. You know, and if you WANNA know anything I'm doing you can always follow me on instagram cy young have underscored nine five one don't dog you're. Putting it up of and on the description once it goes up on Youtube, people can also see it and go straight tickets through their. Seldom a lot of people have been requesting him as well. So maybe you couldn't connect me with yeah. That's why I actually wanted to bring a man because I wanted to introduce you guys. He knew who you were and he was real excited to meet you and he was really looking forward to being tonight man. But just like I said due to family problems, he couldn't make it but I definitely want to connect you don't look. At this disappointed until you thank you for giving me the honor and a privilege. To sit down with me, chop it up with me and to interview human. Thank you for having me Shit a much lower much respect brethren. Other than go ahead and give my shot outs, and once again I'm GONNA give it shot on my boy John motherfucking now for making this thing, happen for making a pop in our I'm saying pop. So there's any single Latinos author that looking for Nice Looking White Guy. He looks like the guy from American history x of get at him Ajan motherfucking Elkins on instagram. John motherfucking convinced demand. Okay. I'm telling you I'm warning you. You've been warned. So the protein into hit them up gets a free. Rhodium plane. Other than that, let me go ahead and give it to my boy digi digi media clips. Give a shout out to. Roger you're stuck in Peru homey hopefully back. And I. Know Your Baby Be born zone. So you know what my prayers for you and your girl, my son be scandalous for helping me promoters. Let me give me channel to boomer. It was his birthday other today. So burn boomer if you're watching. Thank you. Let. Me Give a shout out to my drunk Guy Kyrie Judas we're going to continue filming. That you're GonNa wrap documentary just to be real footage so far still we're still filming I told you from time to time I will give you updates on Saturday. We'll be out there will be filming all through La just bureau footage I'm not going to say what are we going to be doing because I know there's people out there like let's go out there and film what they're filming believing happened with Rhodium Mix take documentary and I'll be sharing that soon so. One last thing please allow me. Let me. Remind you please. Okay. If we have any patriots of sloping that you have with him of him up on stage a into studio email to US audio Edgy Mel Dot Com. Because we're going to be honoring him late show him and his family. Some love. Once again they laid them to rest today so much love must respect to him and our prayers and condolences to his family, his children. So once again, it's sad that. We lost a brother, but we're going to honoring here are radio. May His name live on? So once again, Sunday. Hours you got Sunday. And Friday don't forgive freaky tales on Friday subscribe. Freaky told podcast on you to subscribe. Help me get ten. 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SARA S. & ELVIA CADENA - EPISODE 93 - ROADIUM RADIO - TONY VISION - HOSTED BY TONY A.

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SARA S. & ELVIA CADENA - EPISODE 93 - ROADIUM RADIO - TONY VISION - HOSTED BY TONY A.

"You'll call somebody take somebody slap the shit out of somebody. Let them know that Rodeo radio's live open this. Doctor He's been full of. Got Say. This down with us the. He's down with. The. Obvious Down with US Arabian French you know he's down with. Sony. With the is down with US JJ banks is down with. Zero. Down with us. Jason Boys Down with. SCIATICA. The down with bus boy. He's down with US allies commission. Two broadcom son, but the from the Rhody Monday. And by the way also down what the way your Steve. Down with. At. Bulky tapes it is a must win. I know you stare into my hat. Football Sunday. GotTa support my team. My team is up. And not only halftime but. Welcome to Rolling Radio Episode Ninety three and four we. I introduced my special guest well at least one of my special guest. Got a couple of announces I gotTA, make first of all, want to thank everybody for. Subscribing to freak until podcast. Thank everybody for sharing commenting I. Don't care if it's positive or negative. It's all good. Once again, thank you very, very much other than that I want to thank everybody who has been purchasing and supporting us buying these hard copies. I still have a handful of the. Albums I still have the mix tape to enable me based. Eighty, six for twenty, four, seven adobe in effect four of them idea for them doctor did. So once again for those that still want to get a hold of those hard copies now as far as the BLU ray concern, here's a quick update. There will probably be about another week or so okay we just have a problem with our company. That's. Having a little issue president trump why that is I don't know. But that's what that's what we're at right now. Other than that people I've been hitting US up about. The freaky tales podcast on spotify we had an issue with that as well. Give us a few and it'll be up soon. So what if I have any more announcements I'll say during the break or you'll be able to see we come back from our break. But what do please allow me to introduce my guest of the night? Sarah S yes. Several shine. Yes. Finding. For having me, I'm good. How are you? I'm very, very un-blessed. Everyday's a blessing. Asked me. How are you doing today? So as long as I'm not dead in jail in the hospital. Yes in these times so now. I'm not sure exactly how far you came from but how Dr Coming over here on a Sunday it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all it was. Like. No traffic. So yeah. No I know. There's ball football started today. Are you at all a sports? I am I like the forty niners the forty nine. Okay. As long as. Other teams. Sorry all good people probably going to hate me I guarantee you on the launch. cowgirl. All good I got skin. What about basketball your basketball. The Lakers Lakers. Then we're going to take it off Fisher for sure. Okay. We're we're looking at right now. You know who the team that I don't WanNa base not that I think that they're better than us but I think that they do give us a hard time the clippers. Yeah. They match up well against US crate. So I'm hoping the Denver Nuggets beat them. No good. Baseball. Dodger's dodge. Yes. I like the La Teams for baseball and basketball. Games. Um I never have I've I've I've been to dodgers game like when I first moved to La years ago but that's been a little while but I've always wanted to go to Lakers game. So that's definitely on the checklist when we can go back to you can live shows, right? You know? There's a lot of things that. I'm not one of the homebodies I'd like to be out and about right. Is there anything that you miss doing day that you're not able to now because of this Kobe thing? I'd say. Just getting out with friends. Just being in like social functions lounges. Going to a concert stuff like that I'm I'm more of like kind of a homebody anyways when not performing or working. So it hasn't made a huge impact, but I've been able to work from home and do and figure out creative ways to like seeing and do live shows from home. So I've been getting more like on that tip you know just trying to be creative in a sense where you can just come up with new things. With the new world with what we're going to sell? Yeah. You know and one thing that I told people because there's a lot of people altered that have this. Idea of like. Well, I'm just I'M NOT GONNA do not into Kobe thing passes right but honestly right now you should be learning hustle right? Definitely. We have some time to prepare. I tell people is not how you come out of so to speak the trial, but it's how you do it right and you can shine like Sarah. Or, you can just be done dumps and drink your life away. All right. Hopefully things that. There's definitely two choices. Choices now so you say you're a homebody. Yeah. Anything. On TV that you recommend maybe you've been watching you Netflix girl are you? Documentaries that billion Netflix's girl. I like them. I gotTa look on my phone. It's it's I've been watching. Hold on a second I'll tell you right now don't tell me Cobra Card. I don't remember the name of it. It's. Oh it's called new girl was Zoe Zoe. This January is her name. She's really good. So I've been watching like on season three of that but it's comedy. It's kind of like it's kind of like the office a little bit. But Romance comedy it's. Recommended to anybody author. Just girls you know like like like romance comedy stuff okay, yeah. You know which one people have recommended to me and I haven't gotten a chance to watch it. When I find out there's already so many seasons I'm like I'm not going to start from beginning. Thinks called Zork. that. Is a pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah. I didn't get too deep into it. I just watched the first. Okay. Now before we start getting into. The meat of your interview, you like boxing. MMA. Yeah I watch boxing. Yeah. Not a lot but I'm into it yeah okay. That's cool because. I mean a lot of female walk when I interviewed him a lot just not into anything I, just like I just like Novella No. Yeah I used to watch soap operas back in the day but now I'm more like just have a recording studio at home. So I'm either like writing and singing or I'm watching something on Netflix but. Yeah. Okay. So we're. Originally from what did you grow up at I grew up in Los Osos. I moved there when I was three it's a small little town. And I moved to oceanic. Oh, I'm not sure if you know where that is, but it's like right next Pomo. So it's about fifteen minutes north of Santa Maria area, and I moved there when I was fifteen. With my mom and my Stepdad and just went to high school at Aurora into High School. And then that's where I met dominator and started featuring as a singer for them and see us and then met Tomas O. Lease. Sure I'm sure you've heard of. And he had a label at the time he was kind of like the only label in our hometown and so he was like who you know who's this girl? Let's keep singing on your hooks and stuff like that and So they basically just gave me a shot when I was nineteen in their leg where we want to do a whole album on you. An art really pushed that for me and so two Tomasz 'cause a lot of them were like, no, we just want her to. Sing in the background but Art had his own studio in his house at the time. So he was like just grinding and putting out every artist in the in the eight. Oh, five go he goes by dominator but. He was really like the first producer that I work with and help me put my album together and then we just went on the road and started doing our thing. Now let's go back a little bit because you mentioned that you move with your mom, your Stepdad now. As I like to say as a youngster as a little girl teenage girl what type of music will you raise with? What would just play? Right? What would your mother play? On my mom would play like crystal Gayle in leg. She plays shot a My Stepdad was more into rock music but. I went to a Gospel Church at a young age. So I would have my mom drop me off at this like almost all black church down the street. And I just started to have this love for Gospel Music. So I was listening to more like aretha Franklin and the patio bells and my mom was kind of like, where is this coming from? But it was just like in my heart and my soul to like you know, just take it in and understand like the old school. Era and. Team maries and stuff like that. That's that's awesome I'm glad you mentioned that. Because a lot of those artists that you mentioned started off in. The church. A lot of them. I mentioned this in a previous. Interview I believe it will Sam. Cook if I if I got it, wrong. Forgive me somebody correct me. Yeah. I know he started off in the church. And he was told in documentary that people can watch on Netflix. that. His pastor told him that. If he goes out into the world and seeing and seeing whatever or you could think forgotten the world. So to you and he and he said I wanna see for the world. That's what he said. Right and I guess he ended up making a lot of hits. We all know he's music but he they're coming here became an artist and they're getting hotel. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Very very sad. Wow. Yeah. And that's what intrigued me to watch the documentary. 'cause I really wanted to know all the details I had already had gone killed but he was raised in the church a lot of a like Elvis Sang Gospel music now. What you a quick story about me. I was maybe. One or twenty two when a friend of mine invited me to all black church as well. As a matter of fact, it was called Greater Bethany and A. of Manchester and Hoover. Okay like riding the hood. And I go. And boy. Let me tell you something. They can worship there. They can really relate wash I learned like the runs and the you know because they just they just let it all loose and I think that was the best place for me to learn really open up and sing, and you know what they had this beat three, hundred Oregon and I. I could swore you know that Al Green was in there saying. That because that's how good is something you know. So when you said that you mentioned a lot of these artists, I'm thinking. That's where a lot of these artist believe it or not I believe Lisa might be got that sound keeping the church and he brought it into the World Sam Cooke did and definitely you know so yeah, and you can hear that rawness and that greediness their voice you know a lot of that is just being on stage at a young age on church and getting comfortable in front of an audience you know. So that was a good start for me because they would the pastor would throw me on stage and actually sing in the choir. At a really young age. So that was my start just you know senior you. Yeah of a where just. Twelve thirteen yeah you were scared when I was a little bit Yeah My dad is actually a gospel singer when my parents divorced I would visit him like in the summer he lived in Bakersfield he was only one that saying in the family. So in the summers when I was a kid, he would throw me on stage and I would sing like at like four and five years old like doolittle duets with him. So so I kind of was comfortable you know just being on stage with him and then when I moved with my mom I wanted to keep going to church and that was just a place where I, found an outlet to you know. Be Able to use my voice. Or another documentary on Ray Charles Yeah. And a lot of people. Call believe it or not like I had a hard time understanding but I had to be considerate of the time when he when he was playing his music. People were saying that he was taking if you will Gospel Hands or Gospel music and just giving it world WorldCom lyrics according to these critics. And that's why they were such against the point where they were calling the devil's music. I mean I love his music IDC anything demonic about it but I just thought like, wow but I guess at that time it was so different, right? There are super judgmental and now things are really opened up since then like you know even if you do our MBA and they might call it world leader, the Devil's music or whatever, which is really crazy to the left you know you. You just stay who you are in. No matter what you do. So I'm not going to be out there. You know like a Megan, the stallion like I respect her choice what she does but I I know who I am and I'm pro. You know I'M GONNA probably keep my clothes on and you know seeing it and it is what it is. We all just have to know Arlene. Rocket. Be who we are. So you know my dad's shared with me a story years ago. He wasn't really a Elvis Fan story one time on. How things have changed, he said at one time he saw Elvis performed live on TV he was a youngster and the way he would move his legs. Okay. Going back and forth to tips that television got so upset that they would only show him from the waist of. Because, there were trying to say that it was too perverted. You know but it's funny how far we've come we've come a long ways. We've come to. Cardi B. Time. It's a totally different and like I said I respect anybody in any type of lane like you know it's We all have different backgrounds. We'll have journeys of what we come through and it's just the and molds you and makes you better or. So. So now you were going to this church and. Church doubt at a time that you saying that they just ask that you want to tear or I volunteered they had like trials and I volunteered and they're like this little white girl you know. I'm half white but they're like, you know she could see league. That's that's crazy i. kind of had a stronger voice back then too because my father was kind of you know showing me that that world when I was young. So I had the confidence and just didn't really know how like let it out though in a powerful way. So just you know studying the singers around me and just you know question vibe and. From that point on where where Sarah go did did you were you interested in more into singing? Did you want to start did start writing your stuff immediately or were you cover another people at the time where I was? I was I started writing poetry. So I had like like three really big poetry books and I will just doing that at night when I was a kid I didn't know where it was coming from but I would hear songs like by Janet Jackson, Paula Abdul. Those were like my favorite singers time so. I'd start writing love songs and stuff like that but never had a beat to put them to because I was. So young I was like thirteen I really know about studio on things like that but my mom would always find me in my room like. Writing Poetry or listening to a girl singer. So, I, guess stance your question I just like this when I was fourteen and moved to oceanic Oh that's when I met dominator and. And started actually I'm sorry I. There was a guy named blink. He was like a promoter in in town and he. Asked my mom because he heard that he heard from me singing at the church and he was looking for a singer in his studio. This is before I met dominator. So he asked my mom to meet him to drive me to McDonald's parking lot. So I could sing for him in the parking lot. I was fourteen and he was a big promoter the time on the West Coast and so he wanted to book me on some shows and I remember my mom going like, okay you know because I was like hello baby and she's like I don't know about this music industry. My mom wasn't really. into at the time but. She's always been supportive. She just was more of course, protective mom course Mike Okay. What's what's what's Up to get into. So I just remember like seeing like some loud Mary J. Blige Song Fourteen in the parking lot and then this promoter going. Oh my gosh. You've gotta talent and you know I want to start booking on some shows and stuff like that. So. I believe that's how dominator heard about me through a friend that knows him. But anyways, it all ended up connecting and that's how I ended up being the. Girl features on a lot of. Growing up did you play any instruments at all? I played the flute and I play piano? And do you still play yeah? Okay. I don't have the patience to play I try to go to school to try to learn and. I didn't have a good teacher. Yeah. Almost learnable once I know it I would master. It's not a good teacher. Yeah. I'd have the patience. No the teachers really help I played the flute a lot better than the piano and then Just. Like gotten older. I doing a lot of like playing by ear and watching youtube videos and I'll just sit there sometimes on the weekends and just play and come up with new song ideas. So I'm not great at it, but I can get by. You said something I stood out to me. That you would write poetry. the reason why I find interesting because. I've been podcasting now. September eleventh will just Friday and we've done one year, and this is show ninety three and I've been if you'd a lot of people here. Yeah. A lot of rappers when I ask them, how did you first start wrapping the many of them? Say I started with Riding Poor Yeah. So, and I know common yeah. Yeah it's pretty common. Since I'm not a rapper singer I find out somewhat fascinating, right? You know. Yeah. So do you still write poetry it'll? I don't I think I've just turned that into songs. You know. Now when I do write something, it's always you know for a project I'm releasing or a single or something like that. Yeah. I think after I put out that first album is like I just got straight into songwriting. I was writing for other artists as well as the years went on, you know just doing features and. Yeah. About. What age would you say you got into the studio started recording? I was fifteen. Okay. Do. You remember what you're saying were see who you were singing for. Yeah. It was with dominator and it was. Sample by. I he would know. Him this long My brother but he he always flip samples because he had so many records like he just had. You know he's still does he has in his his home studio. He's got just a wall full of records because he was a DJ I so he would just be like, okay, I know what Song we're GonNa make you out a record of you know could be Stephanie Mills whatever He'd flip it making his own and be like. Let me see what you've got. You know and what was cool is he would let me right and just like be myself you know at that young age like. Try to come up with something but he did write me a song called your number one on my first album just for you and that song that he wrote was the one that took off and people really started to hear my name more we radio interviews off of and and performed in a lot of car shows opened up for a lot of people. Just from that song, he wrote for me so I would do that song like a couple of others. So yeah. One thing about him? He's very, very creative. Yeah. I was sharing with you before the show. Up for like two months ago because. Me and my team, we're putting together a chicken or read documentary right and we started on doing something music. Of. Rap Off Arapoff foreseeing office just like theme music. I chose him because. I want to say, maybe about two years ago or a year ago somewhere on there. I somebody sent me. WanNa videos and say this guy's really really good. Yeah. I never heard of like. So, like I said maybe about two years ago so I just messaged him. Yeah. I just one day overlooked at work. Yeah, and here we are. He's connected with everybody. So yeah, as a matter of fact, when I first interview be. Very highly abune. He's WanNa. Keep telling me you need to get her. We made that happening I'm glad you're here. Thank you. So now you're welcome. So now you'll recall that first song and Obviously, you said that you did a lot of shows, but what was her response? Did you get any negative response back? I mean I think Some people didn't if I would Spanish or not what we were doing mostly car shows and it was all Chicano. So, sometimes, I'd get those looks and you know a white girl or whatever. But. I think just coming into I, felt like sometimes a little bit out of place but just because I was raised from a really conservative home with my mom and stepping in straight into the hip hop. Kinda like. But she loved me judge before but I think just coming from a church background and like just really going okay I'm Gonna I'm GonNA become this artists you know it all really happened within like a year and I was I was singing a lot of just like like over old school samples and touring with just like ten rappers that were like on the rise and during their thing you know and we're open up for night owl and and lighter shade of Brown and just all these names that were you know really popping at the time and still are so it was like Whoa. Okay I'm in this So it was a great learning experience and I just kind of just started cultivating from there you know fifteen and sixteen. Yeah. That's awesome. Twenty you said. You win started performing. In front of all Chicanos. Doing shows with all these other. Rappers as will for meals somewhat to quite opposite because when I started. The rapid I with black. The team that I toured with was all black. Nineteen ninety-one when we took all the Texas Detroit Philadelphia it was all black even though I'm educated but I'll say for the sake of the compensation, I was the only guy. I got. So they look at the shady. What nobody ever like like I'm sure did it to you I? Hope not nobody ever disrespected me. Anything, they can almost look like. Wow. Down, right. Right like on. Your they did. Yeah. My father is Portuguese and Brazilian in my mom is white so Yeah, I get the dark hair and the is for my dad. So, after that Song what happen for you next at, you continue to work with dominator or did you venture out on your own? What happened from there? I stayed in the Santa Rosa area till I was about twenty one. Okay and then I moved to La. So I was basically in the the eight five doing music with them for probably seven years maybe six or seven years. Yeah. And came went to La. Tried it out. Had some tough times. Came back to the eight. Oh, five and did another album and then moved back to L. and I've been in La for ten years now so Just, a little back and forth. But I'd I'd say like I knocked out before I moved the first time a knocked out about four albums with Tomas lease and parts team. And so I went to L. A.. Left the contract that I was in in Santa Maria because they were kind of breach and had a lot of artists that. Weren't really you know going anywhere at the time we were. We had a more distribution overseas with another label Tomasz label, but they were called high-rollers entertainment Jerome Stevens. And Him and his partner Kinda like folded. So I was like, okay what's my next move going to be and I always dreamed of going to the city and you know La's the closest biggest city to where I was from. So I just kind of got this like I'm going to do this you know and. My story the story of like you know a lot of struggle I went out to l. a. and was told I was GONNA have a record deal with a very big label. Middleman type situation where it didn't really work out and I was kind of like in a position where I could either just go right back home or stay there and in grind it out and I actually slept in my car. And toured as a backup singer for people and I. Would take showers at the gym. I got gym membership by State in shelters downtown La on skid row. I did that for A. Span of two years. So. Yeah it was it was a challenging time. You know what? I know things are getting better. Yeah you know and. Like I said earlier is not how you? Go through it and times we all go through. These struggles, for example. And it's kind of leading to my next question. I love music like I'm sure we all do right. But sometimes the music business side of it. It really is terrible. It's terribly so. When I made a decision in two, thousand, seven I had had just did a pretty much a year tour, right? Two thousand six going into two, thousand seven and I was getting paid. So I wasn't getting paid right. Are we did a new year show in. Long. Beach and. So I told the guys I'm Outta here in my mind. I knew I was done with music out first day of two, thousand seven. That night I said a monitor. All right. We'll see you tomorrow. That's the truth I took a tenure break. Wow. I didn't come back like two thousand seventeen. Wow and I said to myself I'M NOT GONNA come back to music a I'm going to do something got a revamp got always change it up. I came back as to direct a documentary and I did okay. Now this documentary. We, have never received one negative response. Now Now, the real I asked you earlier about when your personal came out did you receive any negative response because when I produced this record? and. We were signed to one of the biggest regulated on the World War Two. Disney. I only got one battery remark Oh. I told me that this. Almost. Bucket wack. Well. So I, I just saw them like this on why don't you tell me how you really feel yeah. But really what happened was I think this person was just upset because I was making money driving brand new Mercedes? mercedes-benz living by the beach boys torn you're doing good for you. Good yes. I can kind of understand that bacteria called hating we call it jealousy. Yeah. You're just jealous. Yeah and it it's the same thing happens. He's still. Stronger. Now, thought before we go to break A. Question. You growing up in music loving music recording music. How do you feel about the music side? The business side of the music. I think just as independent in getting close to a couple of major deals, a couple of times and having to make those decisions and seeing that side of it. where it's really just about money and packaging, and sometimes the talent doesn't even really fit into the equation. You know I had to kind of take a step back from it and go. Okay. How can I? Pay My own lane take what I've built already from my hometown and come out here, and just you know, stay focused and continue to create music and get out and perform, and that's just what I've done. I've learned how to just be my own engine and and be a the independent artists that respected in a way that isn't like you know trying to do whatever it takes to get to the top. So it's I can say just from seeing both sides of it, it's I'm glad I've stayed independent. And that I've been able to work with a lot of great people and you know just have have those relationships. You touch touching a couple of things. On. We come back because I know you released ten albums. So we're GONNA talk about those back. Awesome. Cool don't babysit. Okay everybody wants to get caught somebody take somebody slap the shit out of somebody and let them know that their shine is in the mother fucking building. We'll be back in ten minutes going on around comeback. We'll Rhodium. Tony Wizard. We started a gofundme page because we need you to help us meet our goal and our goal is. To, release a Chicano rap documentary and we need you to be a part of this everyone who contributes will have certain incentives offered to them. For an example name one, your name will be on the credits of the film everyone who gives everyone contributes. their name will be on the credits. That's just one thing that we have to offer it. But yet, if you read the description, you'll see other incentives for your contribution if you've seen the Rhodium mixed documentary. You will not be disappointed with this documentary shining light on Chicano rap chicano culture. It is something that can be used as educational tool now and in the future. So once again, help us meet our goals that we could start production and remember this we have a voice. And we will be heard. Welcome back everybody to episode ninety, three with the PUCK is slapped. Lying Tony Eight your whole. What back now jack off on we're going to go ahead and jump budnick arrived back into it. So what to do several shine how you doing? Are you doing. The show that was great. Thank you. Thank you. Practice all the time in the mirror everything I can tell you got it down. You know what? I was looking at your bio and there was something and usually have pretty good pornographic memory I never have notre. But there were some things that I needed to. Point out that I i. think are very, very interesting. I think your parents or people that are. Going to be be your pants tonight should know you released against with an amount of twenty years turn albums over. Your first one you released in Nineteen, Ninety nine and if I'm correct just for you yes, that's. Do you remember the producers or the producer analysis dominator. Dominate and up. How was the? The feedback from that album, it was really good. They had already heard me on sale s and triple C's so locally people were like, okay. Well, we've heard her name that Sarah now she's doing her own thing. So it was cool because they show me the same type of love that they showed them off. Yeah. Awesome. Okay and then You came out with intern my world that was two thousand one. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about that one? That was not what Tomasz that's when I went with Jerome Stevens So I've I've done a couple of albums with both of them but that's when we all went over to high rollers dominator did to and dominated produce that and so two Darrell Dawes Daryl doses of Santa Maria, and that's where I kind of went a little bit more like R&B Flavor. Started dabbling like in the sole musical but more so yeah. You know what? You'RE SAYING TO R&B who would you say if not going up maybe at that time? Perations when it came to. Be. I have to say I was listening to Donald Jones. He was one of my favorites Dave. Hollister. Faith Evans and Mary J. Blige and Kelly Price. And what was the response on that album? It was it was a little. I had good and had back because a lot of people wanted to hear me still do to sing over like the old school samples long, which is what you're kind of created my help create that. That sound. So I think people were expecting me to just stay with that and I was kind of growing more love for the. Since I, what I was like more raised on. So I was just trying out a new kind of new Johnny but still keeping that that Sarah sound too. But but I got I got positive response just more of like, okay. What what direction issue going but it was good. You mentioned on to must. Yeah. Are you familiar with Murray, Brumfield? Yes. Okay. I interviewed Murray here. We have such a great response. A lot of people wanted to hear his side of the story. And then he also recommended Damaso eventually I will have to mass. He's he's got some stories for you. And your. Less okay. For the people that are watching right now that request him a lot. I'm just GonNa say it and I'm glad dominators watching I booked him but they had cancelled due to against the coronavirus. And I'm just waiting now they're interested in doing it again. Panel. But I'm just waiting on their date. Nice. Oh, so they will be yeah, they're great. So. Now, you had a sugar and so I'm sorry the new beginning. Thousand six and that was back with Tomasz. So, drone Stevens and Tomasz for like the two labels in the city they kinda were a little bit in competition but jerome did more shows and and he started up a studio and. So, we were kind of like working with with both teams of the time and dominator was also working with John Jerome. So I was kind of like you know like working with they were like my brothers. So where they went like I went basically some both of the teams like we're having. Problems. Financially at times because when you're a startup label and you're trying to like. Get behind you know all these artists that don't have a name and you got to promote them to a huge level. Sometimes there's you know things that come into play where you're like, okay I think I'm going to work. You know over here with these people. So we stayed loyal to each other as group, but we didn't always we weren't always with the same you know financial backing but we we were Tomas or jerome basically. Yeah, but that was that was with Tomasa lease and that's the last time that I've done. What Tomas since. I see the album. was released two thousand. One. This was really two thousand, six years wife along. That was when I moved to La. Yeah and I. Actually. That was before sugar and soul album, right? Yeah. So. I had to move Ellie I moved to La Right, after the sugar and sodium. That's because I had ended up I left the Tomasz situation and I I was doing more features and stuff a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. I'm out on four hundred fifty features right now Chicano rap world. And featured with like big names like spice one and. Bone thugs and harmony featured on a song with. Courtesy on WHO's Dr Dre on his son. Some. Going to be more Internet. Sugar and so released in two, thousand and eight. Ki tells a little bit about that one I. Think you said that was the last one you did with right almost. No new beginning was with Tomasz Ker and then the sugar and soul was with high rollers entertainment. And that was like really we went back to the old school sound because people were like we want to hear more of that so. dominator produce a lot of that and he featured on that one as well. So school yeah we were just touring a lot Let me see I'm trying to get them right by the year. Okay. With sugar and so and then you had. Shine hard. If I'm correct or Yup okay shine hard I'm trying not to know. Okay us to set it up in two thousand thirteen. Oh. Yes. Step it up. Yeah Yeah. No you're good. That was my first one I put together on my own when I moved to La. So I started. I was during that time between sugar and soul, and that album I had had a meeting with baby face and I had had a meeting with clive. Davis's team and was trying to get a record deal like really trying hard. To get signed and the contracts were you know they just weren't great at that time for me it was more like three sixty dill's you know we're gonNA throw a single at you and hope it goes well, and you know and I sometimes like man maybe I should have took that chance but I decided not to sign for for different reasons but. I was more like just doing showcases like really heavy I had met Ricard when I moved here. That's when I was actually sleeping on my car and I was waitressing at Roscoe's chicken and waffles. Close. Like I was like people come to eat here. You know like people and that's how I got actually my first backup singing job for. Ricky Fontaine, because his manager used to always go in there and eat chicken waffles. So I was passing out my demos while I was waitressing they're like when someone would leave I leave my cd on the thing and the manager didn't know I, was doing that but I was like shoot I'm you know I'm going to see who I can meet so he came back in after you heard my CD and asked me to sing outside on my break, and then he was like we're looking for backup singer you quit your job because we're we're gone overseas like in two weeks and we like your sound and look and everything and I was like. I'm out. So it was living in my car. So I literally had to park my car with all my clothes in it grab like two weeks. Worth close at a time. Go on Tour Comeback Move My car around another block so it didn't get towed. Grandma Shit. Go back onto her comeback. People had no idea it was living out on my car. Yeah Yeah, step it up two, thousand, thirteen. Then you Kim a shine hard? Yes. We thought the following year. You put together as well. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Dane you came with raise the bar two, thousand sixteen. Tells a little bit about that. Why'd you name it raise the Bar My producer that I've known for thirteen years almost as long as dominator. He lives in Las Vegas. He's. Worked with a lot of people, he's released songs on Leia R, Kelly tank. He's somebody that I met when I was hustling my CD's La the first year I used to write on with a sharpie and go out there and sing on the block. And he walked by me one day and was like you know you remind me of the young Tina Murray was actually seeing out there with a microphone and I had a whole set up and I'd make like two hundred cash. You know in five hours and be like, okay. I'M GONNA go to Ross goes down waitress. That was my daily thing when I wasn't. Doing shows but. He ended up being like a brother to me to He's out in Vegas now. But he just was like your mind me of a young teen I just WANNA. Make an album on you like. Let's call it raise the bar. So that was his idea his name's pyramid shout. Pyramid. and. Those have been like my to producers and Blame Ronnie I. Don't know if you've heard of blame Ronnie we'll into him 'cause I'm most of my newer music is with him. But Yeah anyways pyramid put that together for me and that one was the first time where I went more like HIP HOP R&B. Yeah. Then in. Two Thousand and eighteen you believe released love letters. Yeah. And that was all financed by me. That's when I started like. Working with blame. Ronnie. Blame Ronnie's worked with a lot of people nipsy Russell? He's if you look them up right now he's on tour with I love she signed and he's WORKED WITH SOROTI WHO signed to? Jay, Z's label and he's just he's doing his thing. So it's it's cool to work with producer. That's really in the game is able to like you know give me some pointers give me some real heavy rb tracks that I've been I've been wanting to be able to write to. Awesome. You know it's funny you bring. Teena Marie. Ultra share with you a little story about her adventist now in two twenty, you have Seoul? Talk. Okay Twenty Twenty, two, twenty. Because obviously. This year. That's also something I put together. So, it's definitely say it's more like a mid simple kind of EP. I've just been I used to put full albums out like those ones that I did before I moved to La. But now in the industry, it's like very either single or ep six to eight songs, and especially if you're financing all yourself, it's it's more affordable just hey, I'm going to push to singles. You know. Put together EP. So I put together and I have Um cory royalty feature on that one and he's out of Virginia. Johnny Capo. Connected me with him and so it was really cool to be able to like trout to a new vibe on that one that one's very heavy are be. Sometimes I. Go back and forth to the old school vibe and then to the NBA and I'm I'm just really single to it's called sweet enough and that's PRODUCED BY BLAME MONEY TO AWESOME YEAH right here is, says I read something very interesting written hooks for over two hundred fifty different independent rby. Yeah. That's an old bio. It's I'm up to about four, hundred, fifty, nine. Hundred and fifty. Yeah shot little, kid. And Little One and They'll rob a lot of people that I've worked with from San Diego a lot of Chicano rappers. So Yeah I just I've I featured on. Like Rasgas people in the in the nineties that we're in there still during the thing you know spice one was a great feature. Always, wanted to work with him. I worked with rapping, Forte. Just if you you to my name under Sarah Shine or Sarah Es, you'll see mostly features and then you get down to the bottom and you'll start seeing my my personal stuff. Yeah. Could you guys Sarah Shine. On. Youtube look up. Okay. Now Little Quick Teena Marie Story. I shared here several times. Me and my friend, Melanie's. Lately, we've been talking about releasing the song in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, seven, apple song outputs an album for Melvin, ever got released. And my good friend Violet. Brown. One day tells me she she hears a song and she says, you know what you think somebody's sitting on track I said Oh okay. And he said I'll bring tuna by now. Keep in mind. I didn't know I didn't know what she was talking about it could. Maranda corn. You're an exciting teena Marie so Okay I'll ask her. So the very next day she walks up. Wow and they walk into the studio this was on. L. Hambro. Okay and I I didn't recognize Tino because Tina kind of walked in almost like just like some jogging shorts a ready lose sure. Yeah. Just had her here. All sleep bath. So he says she says I brought Tina here I was hey, what's up and says you'd be singing for a time. Yeah and she goes Oh. Yeah you still didn't know who she. Yeah. She pulled me aside violation. That's Teena Marie right. Nothing to play with right there. You don't. Even seeing in a long time. More your. That were. Saying. So but yeah, an incredible. and. I was released a good year. Well, I have a number. She'll stay in Pasadena at the time and since I, call it a lot of vintage keyboards one day she just calls me she just says don't asset. This teen online Gena who? Morinaka. Damn lie. You calling my cell phone direct. Exactly. So I'm like. Who is it but it was really her she wanted to borrow one of my eighty in the panels. Oh. She could play every instrument. Live one time at a casino in I. Think it was Bakersfield but I remember I was in the second row because I was there with one of her tour managers got to meet her but like it was more just like, Hey, she's signing autographs. Meet and greet but just to see your live before she passed, it was like five years before she passos incredible I was like. Wow you know and to be compared to her I've been compared to her a lot over the years. I'm Portuguese from my father so and I was raised. Listening to her and So it's a quite a compliment. Definitely. Into next door in the room next door I actually have two inch real or her voice on it. That's crazy. So Melvin talking about it and we mixed and mastered it. Okay. We'll get ready to release. We're. We're GONNA get. Ready to sign to interscope or one. We are two major deals long story per through. Yeah. I'll tell you off camera how go through. But we were expected big things of that album right and and never happened I was going to be a first single. She was going to be the video everything never happened, but we've been talking about releasing it. Okay. Only reason why people that asking me released releasing is because even though she was paid. Me Still lacking the business side of it. I never had her sign a release. So I don't have the right. I see I don't even have proved diving painter. You know. So but I remember my friend was there who can vouch me but that's The word. They, WanNa, see you don't pay right. So you know what I wanted to touch on something that you said and I know you touched on that again but it says as soon as arrived in La should regular job. Regular GIG BB in Hollywood, every Saturday night, and then a waitress can slept in a call for over two years. And it says solar CDs at night on Hollywood. Boulevard. Yeah. Now. This goofy. That's really true research. And nobody knew that you would just crash. You're not in the car no I my mom didn't even know for a long time. You know she's like my best friend, but I just was like, Oh, I'm renting a room over here. And it was just like I can just look back at that time and I just had such strong hunger within myself and I had such. Internal when you street smart like I knew like, okay, I'm going go say I'm GonNa go sleep in the parking lot I would stay in the extended stay hotel parking lot in. A really Nice neighborhood, I can't remember it was off of the one on one way Because I knew there was a security guard at the front desk all night like in he would usually just walk the parking lot. He didn't know I was sleeping there. But every you know every night I would go brush my teeth at the gas station and Wash my face put my hair up in a bun and go and put my seat back and I would write music in my car and there'd be nights where it was like raining like crazy and I was cold and ahead. At blankets and. I had to go get up early in the morning and go do you know a receptionist job and then at a law firm and then I would waitress at night and on the weekends I would just pack up all my I had my speakers on my mic and my trunk, and I would just go sing and hustle my CDs. So that was like my life for like years until I got that I backup, you know Gig. Yeah. But I I just started saving money because I wasn't really making a lot of jobs. So I got my own place eventually. Toured as an opening act for older legend Brenton Wood yes. Okay. says. Together. Performed a duet she. or both of them titled Sweet Memories Yeah That was an amazing experience jerome whose drum Stevens with high rollers entertainment I had already moved to La and they were still very supportive and we just like Thoma's been there's never been like you know. Bad Energy is like we even though you know how families talk for a little while you're going back and you're like, okay, you're like our daughter, we still support you but jerome always booked a lot of old school groups like The Cheryl's and Britain would was one of his main axe. So Britain would you know is got the car shows unlocked casinos and he is such a huge fan base. All the time. So I met with him in the studio for the first time when I was like kind of star short because I, I had already toured with a lot of people but I was just like I. Love You. I grew up listening to him and loved his music and drum was like you're going to write with him and I need you to write him a hit song and I was like. Okay. So I wrote us a duet which is called sweet memories and then Britain we clicked we got along well, and he's like how how would you feel about opening for all of my shows he goes it'll give your name a bigger platform and and we can open up with your song that you wrote for us and I was like wow. You know. So I went on tour with him just like on the weekends and I had to keep my day job because he wasn't you know off the Mike I mean it wasn't that great of money but. It was enough to to get me out to where the show was and he would cover the hotel and and pay us. A few hundred or whatever. But. I had a manager at the time Paul Morella who I have to shot out Paul was my first actually my only manager for about ten years. So he he was my manager. Under Toomas label and under Jerome's he just went with where I went you know and. Was On the road with me when my road manager sang at his wedding a few years ago. But I say that to say that he went on the road with me on these Britain would shows and we opened up for James Brown. which is at the Greek theater, which wasn't credible because Britain would isn't that whole lineup of you. Just like every great singer you can think of so we all went up for a shock on a lot because Britain would do shows with her. So it was like I was sharing the stage, all these amazing artists and to be on the same stages James Brown like he came on an hour after us it was like I was sitting the audience I'm made it. was just it was just one of those moments I'll never forget. So I can say being, with Britain, would it was Probably one of the best experiences I've I've experienced as an artist. Yeah that's awesome idea. A show with him we. Will Return with his album and we did a car show. That's when I first met him and I'll tell you a little story after. When I asked them, what are you being like I haven't seen? Like all of a sudden just popped up and started performing. Yeah. I'll tell you answer. He told me because I don't want to. Bring bring is going to keep going until the wheels fall off like I was just amazed at his. And like does how everybody knows every word of his? Yes, like. Put It, put it this way. We found out that maybe this song. Art Lebow. Owned other rights Brenton would right. I found out later that he owns I think it's OK. Whether that's true or not the song we were trying to get cleared back. I will do a mix tapes and eighty S, and we were doing original songs on mix tapes. We we're going to go anywhere but up of these mix tapes that we have here, that's how we got a record deal somebody Disney's heard it came to the Swami right they want to silence. But I had a song, my boy high see would wrap to Britain would over a Brentwood and. They. Got A hold of it but they were saying and this is true or not. Because I didn't know the business I was twenty one at the time. that. The Guy who owns the the The music wants everything. Yeah. Like he didn't want to get paid right like when we cleared of I'm your puppet. And we made I'm not your puppet. We pay them like five thousand how? And then we Dr Village towards sending the park. We we pay them five thousand. Okay. But this Brentwood sample they wanted everything. So my attitude was like fuck them take the shit off. Right you know what I'm saying yeah. But you have to make those calls. But that just goes to show how much I love Brentwood wanted to put him in my music what I'm saying. So ask of I'll share that with you have what he said. But now. You mentioned some of the things some of the artists that I was going to bring up. That you opened up artist Portugal. Carney should James Brown Meyer who Tang Clan Casey and Georgia the gap band destiny's child. Moore's Day in the time Memorable moments. Now you mentioned James Brown yeah, it was incredible I think that was probably one of my like big. Moments and then opening for shock and Morris. Day. was like incredible. He's quite an entertaining. Quite. Entertainer. This news child to really delve. And then over the years I've opened up for Bobby Valentino at a big show in. Glendale and. Who Else? I just I've opened up for a lot of people and then just continued to do before the pandemic I was doing like three shows a week in La. Yeah. So I'll get back to that but. Over Yeah. So now I do like Friday night lives from my from my house from my home studio and I, just like seeing get on there and do covers and go live with people. Yeah. Okay. You know it's funny. You say. I've never well when you said you saw James Brown was Kinda like your. Moment. Yeah For me, it wasn't a performance I don't give starstruck. But for this one person I did. It was weird. Familiar with the NAMM show. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. A couple of years ago. Even, though we got what our badges, I wouldn't a wrong way you know and I was like I was with my son and I was like I just nobody hears largest opened the door and it was a guy walking towards me a security guard had this man by the arm so I didn't really bother looking at him because I thought. Maybe he got in trouble escorting him out of the back door. So I just walked in and one of the guy the guy holding this man said hey man. You're supposed to be back. So. Yeah. Man I got my badge. So I looked up and we bumped shoulder ankle. Hey, and I'm about to say something of it was freaky stevie wonder. Oh. Yeah. All of that's crazy. I ran into him at Roscoe's when I was waitressing there I wanted to give them a CD so bad they went. Let me get close. Yeah. But he was a one guy and he bumped into out remember too far. Steve I'm glad you didn't. Get. Oh. Right. That turned around. It was crazy because I will starstruck because you know who didn't grow up listen St Paul. The conic. Yeah. So credible that moment I was like shoot I bunch shoulders. elbows was. Really did though. One thing. that. Beauty, you see a highlighting. They keep her doing your history. I love history. So yeah. Sarah, is often referred to as the truth. Yeah. And that's thinking that's my story like the sleeping in my car and. The Hustle and CDs, and just being that artists that was really on the street like grinding and putting flyers on cars I have single I put out called the truth and there's a video with it on Youtube. It's actually gotten like probably the most views out of a lot of my songs. A favourite by a lot of people and I was performing it and people would be like in tears and the audience, and it's like it's not like a poor me. Oh, I went through this type of song. It's like lace my boots up and I was a soldier about this and I never I never wanted sympathy. It was more like just to let people know like I'm a female not only my female I'm not choosing to go this route I'm choosing to go. Like the industry route choosing route. That's all heart. That's all hustle that believes in herself and willing to. Go through some things that probably the normal female when you know when a go through. So I knew that, I, my strength in who I was as a person was setting the apart from, you know just the average artists that that comes out and waits for things to come to them. I got out and I got it. You know. So. Before we give your shots in closing i. want to ask you something. Yeah. Say There's a female artist author with she's a singer. Rapper musician or even a male rapper secret whatever. Do you hear your story. And maybe they think. Man You know what she sold. talented. What's was chance? Do you know what I'm? Know Wh. WH, which has the why half in other words. Okay. You know what I'm saying, right? What type of encouragement would you give? People that are watching, right I'd say, I mean. Just just do what feels right in your heart, but also put that common-sense with it because you know you can go the route that I did and sleep in your car and struggle and and try to do it the grady way if you have that kind of a backbone. It's a harder way you know, but I can say that I don't look back on that experience and regret any part of it because a lot of it more than me to be the woman that I am today with integrity and values, and you know I appreciate things a lot more. You know just relationships and. I can say to a young senior coming up like definitely. Move to a place of you're in a small town like I was there was only so much that I could grow in do back home I had already featured on a lot of people's CDs and I just knew like if I wanted to go to that next level I had to make that move and that's why I've packed on. My should my trunk and I was like you have to just take risks know do you have to be a risk taker? And you do have to have faith and you do have to know what you're wanting to. Portray. As an artist, who are you? What's your purpose? What's your purpose in your music? You know there's a lot of us are are writing to be a trend. I see a lot of artists coming up better like let me sound like genie I'd go let me sound like her. Let me there's a lot of girls that are their toe. They've I love him I I'm all about any type of our EMBI, but there's I see a lot of women coming into the industry that are in that real mellow safe zone type of singing. For me soul is like. You built it out. You go all over the board with it. You know you just you. You'd show your skills. That's what I was raised on. Like just real singer. So I just feel like really hone in on who you are as an artist put yourself in a city where you can get discovered right now we're in a time where it's it's difficult, but there's a lot of stuff online to tap into. Just, blogs and and and just really there's a lot of people selling packages these days to where you can get like inside email lists on submitting your music to Warner Chappell like if you if you're a songwriter, it's really good to get in as a songwriter I. Actually I've made a Lotta money is an artist songwriting for other people. You know that's been a nice little chunk of change for me on the side as I've been pursuing my artist thing. So tap into what your God given gifts are. and. Just run with it. But but you know if you just know if you choose the struggle route, it is going to be harder. That's for sure but have your backup plan and have some money saved up so that you're not out here. You know just trying to do whatever to get on. You've got to have a good head on your shoulders and know that it's it's not easy because the people in industry like we talked about earlier sometimes little you'll want to say I wanna take a break from the ship because it feels it feels fake it fills you know. You get all kinds of different energies thrown at you that you have to have thick skin enough to to be solid in who you are as a person first before and artists. And who you are so awesome awesome. Yeah. Just any Charlotte you want to give. You want to promote your music where can people reach your instagram's it popping up I know they follow you there? Yeah spotify. And Youtube I am. I'm on Apple Music spotify to my instagram is at Sarah. Shine underscore official in its Sarah Spell Essay A. Shoutout to triple C. dominators LS Tomas Lis Strom Stevens Paul Morello Ed Morello. Shout out to my mom Diane my father Terence. My Sister Andrea, one older sister love my family and Just shout out to every artist. You know just like out there. You know just putting the work and especially during these times just want everybody to stay safe and just don't lose your passion for what you do you have to be. focused. On what your next move is, no matter what's going on in the world right now it's not going to slow us down from what you know what our path is. So just to stay focused on. What you were set out to do before this all hit and you know your best at what you can and I thank you so much for having me on. You are just like I really appreciate your energy, your good energy, and just how much you show just the Chicano world alone. You know like a lot of love and everybody from hip hop to arm be like I've been following. You for for months. Now, everybody's been telling me all you gotta get on there and I was just so happy when you hit me because I knew it was going to be more of an indepth interview. I've I've done a lot of just kind of like on the surface questions I? Appreciate you asking the questions you did and having me here today. So awesome. Thank you. Thank you Sarah. Shine. Giving me the opportunity to. So truly be an honor and pleasure I was not the best scenes you. I Hope Parade Day when you blow the hell up, come back, give us an cars and I'm not real quick. I'm performing in New York next week and it's my first time going to New York. I'm opening dream, doll, and fragile star. So dreamed all off of love and hip hop but she's we're going to be at the Manley's in Brooklyn. So I'll be performing their next Sunday night a week from today. Awesome. Yeah I'm excited. Okay. Everybody wants to again. We're GONNA. Go ahead and take a ten minute break. So call somebody take somebody slapped on somebody and let them know. Yes. That's ever shine is into building and sit back. We'll be back with our guests. Welcome back everybody to. Episode? Ninety three once again, I want to encourage everyone to subscribe to Freaky, podcast, we go live every Friday at seven pm we talk about the paranoid Boogie goal story type of Shit. So once again subscribed their share comment like talk crowd doesn't matter. It's all good doesn't bother me you're going to have the extent to sit regular I'm city. So other than that let me go ahead and introduce my very special guests who's waiting very patiently. Because sometimes, it does get a little hot in years. Do. Almost as Good. Good. How Did you drive? Didn't. Riverside? So it was like an hour drive no traffic. I. Wasn't driving South. Cool. I actually did I actually. Got Here you know what today is. Football Sunday are you a? Sport Federal I don't watch sports not at all. Dump Book I mean I grew up watching soccer. At all goes or you know Sunday's of soccer in. Some policy, Kayla la cooks and things like that. But I never really got into into it. So. What about watch? Soccer's world? Cup World Code Yeah John. Budget. Other than that. Football American food. Have family. Cowboys fans and the are like all into it and I'll sit there and when they have their football what do you call it a? Ruble Not Super Bowl get together for the game or whatever we'll. We'll do that and I'll watch and stuff but I'm not too much of like I'm like okay. So what does that mean? What does that yeah you? During the break check to score because my cobblers playing the rams and we lost seventeen fourteen but I'm not trying to bring up stuff just. So. Now, let me ask you a question because I. I like to ask you what you like to watch. Novella person do you like movies horror? I. Used to watch novellas growing up I was like, oh, Supernova La Freak specially. When I was a little kid I watch a lot of the the little kid I'm novellas and they had a lot of the little dancing and the little groups badly I don't know if you've. Was all like, how do they and? They. Lean that you know building this she comes out on a lot of the kid and all they less and it was very interesting and they had little little singing groups. So I was just like I like this you know but I do like horror I like scary shit I watched we netflix and chill a lot. So I like to watch like haunted like all the super. Normal Shit I heard you mentioned Ozark. fucking dope, I like watching. Shows that have like a bunch of seasons? So by the I could just. Watch it. Yeah. Yeah. So to you don't like all twelve seasons. It's upsetting because I'm like, what do I watch now like I really liked the American horror story. Every. Every season was like super. Super Are you like Austin Michael Myers Truckee Lake. Check. Like I, like the scariest stuff spar spar Spanish top group like. Trouble the. A travel are you familiar with Supreme? And freaking who else. SCIPION was like the main birthday theme song for could be you're not GonNa get as my daddy saw was put. Back then they had the stars with the with the CDs. Lower, the catalog or something, and he would order like the Novella. These I like. I had all the CDs of their liberal songs that thing had in novellas the recre- used to punk weekly for us all the time. So I grew up listening to sippy quickly that shit now I have a little girl. So now my little girls like all anticipate those. What I would have mentioned some of the metric and comedy stuff I used to grow watching but a lot of those will thirty. the plan was those those levels? I mean. I mean. Some are almost like borderline. I remember being little something they printed watching movies and. Okay. Here's what she. One time my mom recipe she was watching a comedy movie. We used own a video store so she would call me she was promised will bring the this movie like all right. Grabbed it take to her, and then all of a sudden I heard one guy going. Was a hill is this like And it was a guy, he was hunting dogs. Oh my God and how. He was having a good time. Out of your. Who Does? Line hands. anyways. How was your weekend going my weekends been gray? Yeah Friday we had movie watch. Moulin. Hold on. I. Liked it I mean I. was expect expected to come around but that can happen. But you know they always switch with the live the people people movies, not the cartoon they switch it up but I liked it. I grew watching Milan Milan was like one of my favorite movies sounds like, oh, I liked it did you ever watch? The genie. Aladdin Latin that one of the people. People. Love it they beauty in the beast. I wasn't happy with beauty and the river one really liked you liked it. It was cool. But he same would like Cinderella. Cinderella was like my favorite movie growing up and when I watched the people people and I was like a Cinderella mark. Let me went to the cartoon one. Favorite if any Disney cartoon. Just in the realm. Of What Cinderella? That was the only movies we used to watch all the time Cinderella Cinderella. Remember the name, your received one call a called the prince of Egypt. God that movies Fricken, Dope I my daughters actually loved movie the. Sport because that was one to watch the same shit I'm like I'm choosing today. So I put that in random random times. Can we watch the prince of each of Mall? It's I love it. I love it. Yeah. He's Nice. No, we're originally are you from ritual I cur. Everywhere but not everywhere, I grew up in San Bernardino. or how people like to say San Brandon? Ghetto. I was born in Glendora and then after that when we live in a month until I was like I don't know like two or something, and then we left to Mexico. So I lived in when what though for like. Since I was like two till I was six around there. and. Then we came back over here we lived in La. For like maybe like half a year and then that's when we moved to San Bernardino. San Berno Gada. Hey I. Love Iran Edina. Memories. Going to yes man it was dope. We saw go like when I was younger, we would go every two years but like living there, I remember my birthday was always my birthday November first so there was always like some type of Halloween or the other those shit going on I really liked that. And you know they celebrate the little. The owners they hook them up with all kinds of share I don't really remember too much but I remember like my birthday Halloween. would be standing right there like big I need. To make everybody. Who who are you? and. I remember. Just Everywhere like is very freely. It was not fleets kind of safe. We're just be everywhere I would love to go there when you celebrate nearly. To Watch that cartoon movie called. Cocoa. Cocoa pebbles such dope man left cocoa. When then became with them I was was just like. I love this I love the whole sugar skulls and the wear those my little girl was born on the other. Either get. More Halloween, my birthday, and she's wearing the other lawmakers you bring up Halloween. Holiday. Halloween. Halloween brought Martin. Halloween, I everything else curses all of Halloween. Plenty of growing up what was your favorite? Costume more dressed up like me give you mine and it became my because only that was same credit I'm GonNa put me on. What mom what am I going to be? I was a devil wants the two and we have a picture of was like a girl there whatever. But Yeah I just as a little devil. I had a lot of different costumes. I can't sit there and be like this was my favorite because. I just I love you could use up and all that I can't like. You're going to be this and you're going to be that. Love it also. So the following year, mom, what am I going to be? Three years in a row damn devil then when I grew up. was. I was a teenager I was always getting into trouble de told the Oslo I was like hey. This. Is. Exactly. Yeah. So now growing up. With your mother and father what type of music would you say you were raised with your mother and father play different music Yeah. My Dad was more like the com- stuff. But Like what like in the your but op Spanish? Obviously, there will listen to all the Spanish, the but I grew up listening to lake nona kind of hard like the same taste. To as we listened to gotTa that actually reminds me of living, in Mexico, let's that they wanNA. 'cause we were. All the time my mom cheetos. His Rossio Luca. Cello Does Not that's. What else? We only indio bring these. There's a lot. It was the Spanish. Shit. Later on when I started kind like catching my own type of thing that I started going up it was just like. US and The Spanish the yeah. Go to school medical. I went to kinder- in Mexico. Yeah. So when I came over here, I was very like King Louis. Shit I was kind of like the Awkward Child. Didn't. Talk to nobody 'cause. I didn't speak English I mean people spoke Spanish but like in school like English and. kind of like a loner a, but the beginning all. And obviously, you went to your high school in high school. Yeah? Okay what school did you go to for people that may be outdoor? Shannon Hills Middle School I went to Roosevelt Elementary School. And then from there I went to Shannon hills middle school. And High School I went to a Royal Valley High School one year. But then obviously, fucking when my parents like you're going to a continuation school. So I graduated from Powell Center. Charter school I guess if you WANNA call it and yeah class of. ood. Growing up that you play any instruments at all. My Dad was always like China make us do something so I remember. I school we got like because we have good grades or something know some bullshit, but we qualified to golden to play the Gordian. Freaking we took a few classes and right there learning. The three blind man is you know the basic shit and what's cool. But after I was just kind of like, this is too difficult for me like. So on, but that's about early on play accordion okay. I try I try and. At what point in your life? What would you say that you want it to start sinking? I know you said you, we're seeing your brand new accordion but was there ever a turning point where you said you know what I really WanNa do this. I've always saying. But your when when I was a after. Maybe like six seven years ago my friend. She. Hit me up and like, Hey, 'cause she's she. She was like, Hey, let's make a three long. She's like we don't even have to play the instrument they they play her and the other grow a play instruments. She played the violin and other completely w well, and I would just seeing. What the? Or sometimes, it would just be tracks and we'll see we started doing the whole House party thing and then that's when I was kind of like I like this like especially because. I. Grew Out of my shyness I've always saying and all that. But I was very leg I don't WanNA show people can't they're written. Stay. You know. But yeah, maybe five six years ago was when I was counting I WANNA do this I want to do this. I, WanNa do this and I stuck to it. Yeah. Awesome. Before your mentioned the you you're shy. What did he got got you out of that was just being tipsy Catholic Karaoke bar. That's what helped me out 'cause I I was like like Sarah was talking about her sh-. I was also in the choir I grew up. I was in the kids choir and that I was pretty shy but I like the once they had. The. My. Choir director right away was kind of like okay. You're going to do this solo like always me so I was just Like. He's GonNa. Pick me again and I liked the. But I was super nervous. You could just tell I was nervous same thing after the kids choir went to the teen squire and seeing being our choir director was like okay. Well, YOU'RE GONNA sing this song and you're going to do this so low and the whole time. I wish breath a lake with my leg or and she told me don't do that don't do that but it was just Like. I was super super nervous. Always I mean I love singing but I was super nervous like I couldn't break out of that little like. Being all stiff type of thing. Then, later on I was I got out of a I was in I got pregnant really young. And I was just Kinda doing that you know the whole thing and after I was just Kinda. Like wow. The now doing my own thing until the whole my friend was like, Hey, let's do this trio thing. Let's do this. Let's do that and I'm like, okay, and from there that's when I was like you know what I'm going to stick to this and eventually will since I was already wild and out at the Karaoke bar when she told me about this, I was like, okay cool. I'm down and we started singing at like restaurants and backyard parties and things like that. So that helps that help. Awesome now. You had mentioned. Singing in the church and everything. You mentioned that you love music you liked singing. Did you. How would you say? You had mentioned like don't pick me or she she's going to pick me. Did you like it from the very beginning to like hearing yourself. Yeah. I like this especially because people after Mesa after Musa was over I can only talk to. These that sounds like but I was very shy I was more of like. Let me in my room singing because I remember the day my my dad bought his karaoke machine. Oh. My God. I was just like in the frigging race with my Karaoke machine forever and we would. Remember the other day my dad found one we would record. He got he was supermac because I remember this one time we recorded over one of his I don't know if it was like. Most or some frigging cassette we recorded over it like Seguin. Radio Show our nate, we grew up in apartments. And our neighbor. She got the chicken POPs the chicken pox little homegrown. We couldn't visit her and me and my little sister where you're like, hey, let's maker cassette. So right there talkie am thing all the stupid things and I sing a song and then my sister saying another song and I remember my dad was not because we recorded over like one of his cassettes that actually had like good music. Playing ones. But yeah. Okay. Reason why I asked you if you like here yourself. Sing because I asked a lot of rappers and a lot of times. If, I've interviewed maybe eighty rebels I would say, maybe about forty to fifty, what to say When they recorded their voice they played it back and they hurt themselves back for the first time whether it was a homer, the studio somewhere else they like Hebron voice. You, know when I was little I did like with the whole cassettes thing like Oh shit. That's me being isolated good and but now super I criticize myself a lot like Nah. I could have done better at there the other day saying away better things like that. But when I was little like actually like doing all that stuff with our freaking Q. Machine I like that I was like this is speed command. And Shit like that here also so like. Growing nope. Now you told me what your mom and dad would listen to. What type of singers? What type of music will you into growing up the possibly inspired you to to to sing or maybe to get your sound, for example, as a DJ being a rapper singer? I listened to everything that was east coast hip almost was coming from. So like I said the fat boys salt-and-pepper ut. Houdini and I can go down the line you ruined up What type which say music inspired you to do what you're doing today. I grew up listening to we'll have an older sister. So we're like six years apart. So whatever she bumped I started bumping too but personally that I like I used to listen to leash keys ally. What's the other girl's name? The one things on Kisha goal. And then with my sister, that's when I started getting to intellect oldies because she was she was like. So she would lil rob and. All other represent the involved a lot of they're they're. Like all these into their music. So as I listened to brandon would and I was like, maybe like middle school around the time when I started listening to that and. frigging who else like Etta James? And throughout high school and Stuff Amy White House she's like she's like my all time favorite on house who else Adele A. There's a bunch of other that I'm just a bit right now but at least Shuki was one of my favorite and I would always tell on the magazine. Magomed at this time GONNA. Make with her mom and when I'll see magazines of the store of Alicia keys sounds canea coney. I'm GonNa make song one day mom and she was like, okay but at least he's like a big. I used to he's all the time. Yeah you know what? You mentioned leash. I- Lovely Shaquille Alicia keys probably the last CD that I've ever bought. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That one I love her stuff. I like her because she plays her own instruments. What you're seeing, what are things about her that you like, and then I'll ask you about anyone else have as her voice was very, very like natural. Is Very Natural the the her her beats, and like you said, she would play everything and then we'll go from like really like mellow to really like you know and I'm like, Oh, I, love that the whole yelling shit it was dope. You love. Love Amy her lyrics. Okay. Like it touches me. I'm not going to shit like that but I'm just like. I could feel it and her voice she has a very strong voice. Yeah like her lyrics like dope. Like everything shrink. So you mentioned Alicia keys and you mentioned anyone house so if I were to ask you. I want you to make me a mix tape. Give me some of your favorite artists today. Okay. What would you put on there today? Today. WHO's out? Today. Kelly you cheese I don't know if you've ever heard listen to Kelly cheese now she's frigging dope. Her music is very versatile. It can go from very like mellow to very funky to vary like. Old Is. Just I love Kelly choosing you need to listen to her. So I WOULD Her Kelly. I really like. Impossible to more artists Kelly you cheese let me see who else is out right now that I really enjoy there's another girl call Andre Day I just recently found found out about her and she's really I like her her style in music. And who else? Of Hard. There's not too many that can sit there and listen to the House I listened to everything. But that I could sit there and listen to all all the time all the time all the time. Here's the reason why I asked that question. because. I asked a lot of rappers today like. Who are some of favorite artists that you bump today? And Dig Stuck. I listened to everybody from before. He knows what do you think that is? I. Because everything kinda sounds the same. Now you know it's Kinda like pretty basic. That's maybe I'm just kind of like I'll just stick to over here but yeah, I think that's why everything is kind of like. The same like especially like with Rep rap beats and all that. Everything. Tennis ounce. Yeah you know what? I hear a lot from a Lotta rappers of dash is hot right now, we need to jump on that sound instead of possibly create your own janitors, such it up, and how do we mix this with this and see how that Click Sir Yeah I'd like that you don't have the nineties are. Speaking on. The nineties you had the west coast sound. You have the south had their sound. And then you had east coast to had their sound. You can tell who was who who's been these calls from Gov. that's a west coast. Today it's all pretty much the same now and and. Even though we've come. So foreign technology where things are easier for us to make music I think music is almost watered down. It's almost like we have more but less is given to us. Yeah. We have people that will never go out of style like Marvin Gaye, aretha Franklin, teena Marie Classic Songs. Today's artists I. Don't know if they'll be around five years from now. Yeah. You know it's going to be hard. As hot. Like talking to my son because he likes saw couple of orders from today. And here's I ask them ten years from now do you think they'll be playing? And he doesn't want to admit it. You'll be like. Probably. Not You know but it is true kilometer. Look it I love hip hop you know all of. I don't hit on anybody but don't you gotTa don't you? Can't you be yourself and see that everything sound to same nobody stands up? Yeah. So that's all I'm saying I bring that up because the top of music to you do is different from what everybody else is doing right now as far as the artists thinking. That are today's I like difference and I always tell people don't try to be better than anyone just be. Doing Stale. So check this out. Here's what we're going to. We're going to take a ten minute break. We've come to a close of this. Yes already been. Having Fun I know you. Have Your own group if I'm correct, but I also want you to talk about Meeting Registry Tony. Yes so we'll come back. I'm going to grab me a beer maybe Mitchell and. We're GONNA have a good time. So mission you call somebody somebody slaps share on somebody a little. Is in the book building and we'LL BE BACK IN TEN MINUTES Welcome back everybody to radio episode. Ninety, three we're back at the JACK OFF OUR WE'RE GONNA go ahead and jump right by bright back into an even started drinking I'm already starting with that. One time I said, we're back rooting and. Rare rare and I was like, Oh shit. But now let me just give a special shot to Julian Gonzales. He happens to be Oakland Raider. Fan and I'll show on love. But. He is laying these pendleton facemasks. Based Master Open up there. Cool. So you can look more like a total if you want. You can actually like. Yeah. Hit Them Up. On Hygiene Juuling. He's a raider fan cute little Chubby kid you'll like. This Clown. Announce it again. It's Other than that. I had Ritchie here and I have Tony Jay here. Those are your friends. So. Sure. What does hot all of that come about? Okay. Well I was saying at a House party now. I really was. Actually, it was not a house party it was the baby boomers. Mother's Day. Tribute thing you know like a get together they had the tickets and everything they hired me to sing my dad Ching because that's what I do private parties and we want you to sing cheese all. Dressed. Up with the whole little flowers shirt and all that and I was thinking at this At that at the little event and I had a another friend the has another friend. Her name's Connie. And she's in like a radio podcast show type of thing with this other lady, which is now my manager and was Monte be and she has a show every Wednesday. And she told her about me she was like after I was thinking that because she was at the catering, she was helping cater at the eventually came up to me. She was like, Hey, I actually WANNA invite you to come over here to the La and I'm like, okay sounds good. Awesome. So I did that that data told me I. Met Mani Be. All that and. She from there she was just like, wow, they had missing singing live right there. Okay just. Keep going I'm like, okay. Okay and I did that and after that. She started opening up doors for me. Certain things only have a for you are you down? Yeah and next thing you know at that time the cruisers. The, I'm in a band with Tony Rich gene called the midnight cruisers. And they were looking for like a backup girl because they already had another girl, which is like she seems awesome to. Jade and She was doing her own thing as well. Soul there were like she's probably going to be missing some time. So we need a backup and that's when I came in. The rich g called me actually called me now you told me like they're interested in a in you. This Day, they want you to this day Oh he's he's going to call you and I'm like, okay. So rich g calls me and he was like hey. We want you to try out la La la practice this day this day to show up and you know things like three songs and I was at Cou. So it was actually on his birthday. This I was like, Hey, I don't have to celebrate your birthday band practice. So bad for. Ya. So we've we frigging we went and I did my thing and they were just like, Oh you know we like you. We do these practices Lola this and that and you know we got the whole thing together and I started jamming out with them. And then like my first time singing with them was original Mike's. They had a was called Sundays. And I wasn't supposed to seeing that day because I was literally had only practice with them like once. So but the other girl couldn't like last minute she was like I can't. So there would you're in house just like Shit But Like okay and I never been with the band or anything like that. So I was just Kinda like, okay. I hope like I hope I do good with Damilola. Yeah. It it went good. It was it was really fun and from there that's that's how I got to me rich and. I don't know too much. I'm still learning a lot. My mandate he was. Beds rich g you know was like who went to start looking at like. Listen to share and you're like Oh. Okay. I've listened to this before or things like that. Same Way Tony. I was like Oh. Okay. So slowly slowly I got to learn more about them I didn't know he knew but slowly you kinda like, put me in like and now I know. So it's stove they they're awesome people. They give me a lot of feedback. He me how this and that, and they say rich and shutout rich shadow Tony Awesome the every time I was just telling I was I was Tony on Wednesday like I was telling him I'm like every time with you. I learned something new I swear it's like, I, learn something new every time I'm with you. I'm glad to hear that I'm on my guess and I love it because they give me such good feedback and. Tips and you know like China like helped me and I love that I love that they're always like, oh no me up was this and that and when we're at practicing to. You sounded off. So let's do this rich. You know he fucking bad as voice. No you fucked up right there's like, okay and I love it I. Don't take it bad as the Mike. fucked. If anything I'm just like Oh yeah. Tell me I'm bugging. I want to know when I'm fucking. Help me out with that and. Now we're. Actually, going to be a at students steakhouse October seventeenth. So make sure we're going to be with the mid nighters. Pepper Marcus Bernini. US The midnight cruisers. That's At steakhouse in the city of commerce. There was another. Seventeen. Borough police. Riverside. Obviously. That incomplete because. Other steakhouse something. But now back to Oji Mike's when you perform their of actually met MC punch day they're too. Big shuttled to empty punctual. Yesterday celebrating his Fiftieth Birthday. But what was the response that you got back after performance? Good. Community, or as I was seeing people pass by like. fucking. Thank you and after I was done to people were like you really is I started gaining like follows and. We're GONNA follow. You were things like that that day. I actually met Mariah. She was there with her manager with a Ruben and. I met her that day and. I met a few people that day that they Lisa Lisa was singing. She performed like the. Outside And Yeah she is and I M C Poncho and his wife and twenty, which is come on. Let me show you come on. Let me show you. Come, meet this person and coming up I and I was like wholesome. So it was it was it was fun and now that People Rem. Remember that like, Oh, I, seen her singing like when you posted the. sitcoms. I seen her original life unlike over-speedy. Yeah I don't know if I embarrassed Tony because when I interviewed Tony here. I've been following Tony and I've been a fan of his even though he's in the music industry and I've been in the music industry, but for me to interview him. You would like. Yeah It was one of those moments I watched it. I watched it was like. It was one of those moments because to me and I'll use the word of mister cartoon when I interviewed him for my documentary Mister, cartoon said Tony G was like a Dj God to us and is true even though I was a DJ, it didn't matter. He was like the guy. and. Then I, interviewed Rhys Jeep A. Came here first time I met him and. Everybody, was already requested him. Okay. Not knowing that. I already had him booked up like a month before. So people like what are you going to get? What are you going to get him I? Feel like saying how? and. By the way, there's a lot of people what are you going to get this? They're already both shut the fuck up wait. So. Now Reggie comes in sits down and I go reaching the place to be how you doing and he sticks out of sound like I don't want to hand it can. Be Yeah so I did that because you know what I know rich. History and I was body at work. So He's these are people that admire look up to. And he also a new amazing amazing interview. Awesome and I. Is GonNA WANNA watch. If you're watching your interview I'm probably going to be like. Hey. Retarded. Since he's Funny I don't like watching my interviews every once in a while when I started technologist already. Let me. Hear my voice. I do that even when Mike I go singing or something and people record me on right they're like constantly like watching Michelle over and over and over and over like why do you keep watch out on? Let Me Watch Myself Dannon Shit. How? Long now have you guys been working together? A year, it was actually a year in July that I got with them. Yeah so We'll the covert fucked everything up. But yeah we've We hadn't practiced in a while either because you know like rehearsals that for the same reason but at this past week route. frigging do it we need to get back to it and it was so fun. I'm as the guys. Everybody. Everybody in the band, the Bass player, the everybody they're all people giving great feedback and. Off. fucking around I got my first language Tech Shit. We stayed Tug Shit Tony do stays thuggish it it is. It's fun. It's with them. I'm like I'm like with my feels a hanging around with me. I have a good time with them. Maybe maybe just tuned in right now and here you're talking about you performed with his band. Can you share with them? A top of music is we play like funk. On an oldies. CAN BE S. So it. All depends. But yeah, we throw in a lot of that. So we do like junior walker. Show. And all that all that stuff. The oldies illegal out of a Mary Wells and the Etta James the. And Columbia's will basically that everybody knows like Celine Abebe Bombay what other we do that like scandal. then. Try to have like the happy shit. So people can dance and. Get down to it and so like car shows ship played the carshield we play that Shit. But. Of course you get the slow jam. So it's fun I have fun. Do. goofy question using a better. English than Spanish or vice versa or both I like both I like both. Yeah, I'm like I like I. Love Seeing on Chedda is right there like this scattered. But at the same time I love the English is just I don't have A. It let's Spangler. Before this Kobe blocked everything. Did you guys have a lot of Shows lined up. Yes, we had. With the cruisers is because I besides the cruisers I'm with label round two so I had my. My stuff with my label and then this stuff with cruisers and yes, it was a lot that was just like. they go every year to Laughlin. and. At the Tropicana. Hotel, we had. We had a two day thing there dot frigging counseled. We had a few. Karsh. We had a car show at the. San Marino San Bernardino was kind of going to be like a super show we had that and. It was like a few a few things that we had everything just went down same with the around to have my own cause with round to is just me. My own thing and I had a lot of that too in just. So now, just like private parties who Back. A little bit of that. Yeah. Okay. Now around to talk to us a little bit around who you talk to us about the band of over the. Top music do you got round to? Share with us what type. Of. Music. Round two I'm doing my own thing. Okay. So I have to singles out with round to there. They've been out for like maybe like a year and a half or Starting up. So I'm of like I'm like their second artists. Artists Brittany shut out Bernie and. I'm the second artist. So what I do is kind of like, let me kind of like bring. What I what I got. So I I really like the like oldies and stuff but I want to keep a lack. Now Day type issue I have a song forbidden fruit and listened to I have the whole pope address. The? Fifties diner type of thing and and that's how I I sort of. Yeah. Forbidden Fruit Somebody sent it to me you need to check this son. Now that I, remember hold on. Bobby. Bobby. He's the guy. Bobby Yeah. He was like, do you gotta you gotTa because a lot of people don't know has booked yeah. But, he countered to this Corbett okay but. People always like sugar free Mak ten or. Whatever but Due to the Kobe a lot of people canceled. What did you say to this past? Bobby put me onto. Check this girl out and he sent me that video that. That's that's my first thing. I actually wrote that okay now. Before, we talk about your next single. What inspired that sound one made you do that type of music I, know you like it, but you could win a whole different other direction. I like the whole old. The fifth these and all that I really love that era but and that's what I kind of wanted to bring. You know I want to kind of bring that. But at the same time kind of keep like something that people are GonNa WanNA listen to now. So kind of like mix. When I'm trying to like mix the old with the new and you know. How they have people like that and I'm like. Yeah, that's pretty much like I wanna keep the whole old. Back in the day type of vibe but. Our now and they type of you know what I mean so. Maybe the older crowd account. Likey. But at the same time I'm still going to have this new crowd leg like it as well and you know keep that whole. It was cute back then all those breaking the style, the clothes permeate personalities beautiful. So you can kind of keep that type of. Flow going. Yeah. You you. Your response that you got was positive. Did you get anybody saying? Maybe, you shouldn't do that. Maybe, we should go that route. Did you get any of that? That, I can't remember no way was. Is that you whistling in the sign and I'm like yesterday can whistle. So. Yeah like that's going to be your signature the whistle on on my hidden shade. The with me so it was it was. It was cool like the response I was just like, hey, around like. Kemah and. I was very I was very happy about it. Because I wrote it to vote. And I don't. I've never wrote music but. Sit there and mice around and come up with something. Yeah. But I, it was just random. It was I started off with a whole slow down more of I'm more of like the slow down type thing. But then just one day frigging being in my car less when I think a lot of like when I'm driving my so one of. My time to because I got kids. Let me concentrate is kidding but. I. Yeah. I started coming out with the Hook I little is part and then slowly I was like this is cute and I just I what I do is just like record myself. So I'm right there driving just start whistling to something or you know and then I came up with that and then after I came up with the lyrics in between. And Yeah it was fun I was like I did this is my God Now who produced. Jay Names Jay Shanklin he recently passed on in February. Recipe's. J He They call them, J. Stink. He was in a band called ts back in the I think in the nineties. And? When I got signed to this label that's who we. We have this person and we're GONNA work with this and. Also, Melanie Andrews she's a platinum. Songwriter. She did WANNA agenda She Janet Jackson's I think it was her first album. and. She. Worked with Jay Soul. That's like I'm working with right now and Yeah I came up with this and I here this is what I have and he brought out his little thing and he was like, okay and he created like the whole and I was like and I kinda want at this type of noise or because I like the live music I, like the instruments I wanna the fucking temporary and the fucking piano or you know the little Morocco's or something. So yeah, he incorporated all of that and he brought it to me and I was just thinking this is perfect. So. If I'm correct is on Youtube. Yeah, it's on Youtube. Toss on spotify moons play all forbidden, pervading free and the music videos on Youtube. Okay. Now, why didn't name forbidden? Because That's the hooks us. because. That's the hook, Samar. Route Yeah and that's the kind of. Listen to the song. It's kind of like. Talion, like Oh, this kind of like a story of like that guy is forbidden my Mama told me not to grab from that tree and right there like you know what I mean. So it's for the the forbidden fruit yeah. So. Now your second song. I have a second single that song actually the era rudy sellers from I wrote that song for me. He listened to me and he reached out to my manager and was like I wanna work with you guys I wanna work with her. With me, let me and yeah, he came. He was like you know what I listen to you and I get this whole like. Diana Washington type of I or the whole amy went house. How you like all these like slow heartfelt type. Asong and He wrote that and once I heard it, I was just like. I love it especially because it was all live instruments like when we were recording and it was like. And I love that. So I was like, Hey, let's do this and it's dope I'm an IT's Dope I love it and So for people that may not know where could you hear that one? It's also out on spotify tunes, Google, play all digital platforms I'm actually going to be filming the video for tomorrow, moral? Yes. It. Yeah. I'M GONNA be the video for that tomorrow. So the video should be soon. And I. Hope You guys like. Have whole concept I already have a whole. Awesome. You know one thing that I love about a great music. Great visuals. Like the first one, the forbidden fruit great visuals I signed those weird because the way I listen to music it's it's different of I don't listen to a lot of lyrics I. Listen to the mentally of what you see and I listened to the music. The music doesn't give me within the first thirty seconds but I skip. Yeah and then when I started hearing, you seemed I hear melodies I don't hear lyrics Seattle I like it. Okay. KUWA- started over again. Then I'll listen to what you're saying Yeah Satan was rap I've always done that. Like one example I know people that are the opposite. They'll delivery thick and give a damn about the be. I can't do. It's got a move me Albania Lake Lyrics and the beat and lyrics, and the being some songs just have the lyrics and then sometimes you have the. But. Yeah. So now you've got two things going off the band and to. What can the public expect from you going forward other his video shoot tomorrow. I is there an album and EP? The singles that I have out those heard. Obviously going to be in my album working on an album so that should be out I don't know. When? It's my album indica they not. And obviously without through. With around two I have. We'll just. Round two with the cruisers whatever we shows we have going on we don't have like originals or anything like that. We're just kind of like a cover band type of thing we have talked about doing our own song. So hopefully, we'll. have songs with them, but with round to. Definitely, working on an album. And more more more music for you guys also also and other than this video can the public expect anything this year of do you have a set date possibly produced album or just whenever you get to an island every we get to it and finish it I. Don't have a set date for it. But. We're working on and but we're working on it. And That's pretty much A. Role I mean we had a lot of things going on but covert Cantamessa you're still working on our on our own shit that will like my stuff that I'm trying to bring out and. I did I have features to I have some features that I've done? And Yeah like okay. I'll try to kind of like no. Going somehow here's here's one thing if people wanted to contact you and. Get a feature from you open for that or you just Kinda reserve more to. Open for yeah, I'm doing my own thing. Like I told my labor and like they know to like if if this is something good that I wanNa do, we should do it and yeah they're up for like features and things like that. Yeah. My Mom's happy my parents to meaning. Yeah. Especially because my mom's always I grew up listening to my mom's seeing my mom organ. I mean she was never like a professional singer or anything like that but at every. Style Yolanda with somebody achie- singing or everybody already knew like really can't sing and things like that. So now that she actually sees me doing my she's like I. I wish I could have done something like this when I was younger she's like the team Yo and I'm like mom and that makes me happy that leg she that it makes her feel that way mit to he's like anthem it company that okay. I love it So you heard. A bucket list. To work with maybe some of your favorite artists that are still around to these anybody that you would like to work with if possible. Yes. Amy Wayne has mashed with so I would have thought he loved to work with. The peace dialing. Right now and somebody that I would I would like to work with. Man Who we're GonNa Start as Kitty somebody that would really really really really WanNa work with like in any type of Janica genres. There's just together now woman you took your manager you know what? I would really like to work with this person and this person this you know. I can make that work. You don't who who, who would it be. I WOULD WANNA do like A. Like a hook type of thing, you know so like a rapper and me to that Hook I would like. I've always been a little rough fan I would love to something a little rob. Yeah like. I'm pretty sure my sister I'm always like watch one day I'm going to do something with low arrive 'cause my oldest sister she. She. Grew up listening. She was like super in love with Lil Rob. So I grew up I lo rob that it'll be it'll be dog to do something with him. And who else? Back. I'm like. Really, good friends with his manager Okay and we're GONNA make interview. Happen already would have happened and not only my shirt for you to the fans because he's a highly requested artist, his name. He was already set to come on here but this Kobe. Thing believe it or not, and a lot of people just. So a lot of people say, Oh, you know how come you haven't gone that guy this guy this guy you have to understand the situation I'm saying so but eventually, he will be here hopefully soon because that's mean as talking to by talking about but next manager big day. I'll talk to him about it. That'd be cool man I grew up listening to him. In that genre. Let me see what you. Dot Org. Now other than that. A once again, this whole pandemic thing people can see you right now, but you're going to be doing a show of. October seventeenth with the cruisers the city of Commerce Steven's steakhouse. So. Go at. Your video is already out of forbidden infrared tomorrow you filming of your next video and that would be platform as well as long. Okay as well, and then you'll be working on the album. I'm just trying to promote your people to know more about you and so that we take a look you up you guys can follow her on instagram serious grams popping up. So don't don't follow and. Okay, we usually tag everyone on our youtube video look on a description in your links will be there as well. So other than that. Anything I didn't ask you. Anything you want. To promote. I think already, Saturday and. Let it. Good good. I'm a firm believer and once again in promoting yourself to pay. Jobs opportunity if you WANNA give a couple shutouts. Family members could you know the? Only. To My mom and my dad and my apologies. To my sister's my brother to. Family to the family my boss Charlie? To the cruiser as cruisers. To. Everybody following in everybody who follows US law shut out and thanks for tuning in and everybody who's been following me and listening to my shit. y'All I appreciate it. Awesome. Awesome. Okay. first of all, let me say this. Gracious thank you very. Much. Victim blast what we're sipping on. But I want to thank you for giving me the pleasure to sit down with you and interview. I want to thank you for having me like a man. I was like well. What's my me? Thank you so much. They were really really truly appreciate it. I'm GonNa tell you the same thing. When you blow up, you've got to come back. ME. Tony. Rodeo radio Monday in Lubbock now. Other than that. Let me go ahead and give a couple of shots everybody. Let me give a shot once again to Sarah Shine. I'll several s same person. Alabama they now once again for coming through much love. Much respect. Everybody who supports us who watches who comments who likes who shares? Once. Again. We just had our anniversary of Friday one year and you guys made it possible twenty five K. and one year. Honestly. I thank you guys for that. So once again, thank you guys, and this is your platform I try to give everybody. The only thing I as as the police have patients because you're not the only one submitting your music. Okay. When you receive emails pretty much day. We get backed up. Other than that. Want to give a shot up to my boy John. Motherfucker now because he makes everything happen. Once again, freaky tales subscribe. To podcast on Youtube and freaky tales podcast on I. G. Followers Air for future contact. Also let me give a shout out to my boy Daniel. digi. Media clips of also give a shout out to. My son be scandalous for helping me promote is once again. Happy Birthday. My Boy Cujo is in the building. To Cujo, he's got an album out and once again. Other than that. Julian with face masks. Hit Up Julian for the Pendleton facemask on on. Julian Gonzales other than that Johnny. We're good. All right. We're out of here Wednesday don't forget got another double feature. Okay. You can enjoy that one. So tomorrow, you'll see it on my. On my feet. So other than that. Thank you for listening to my. I love you me. Out of here.

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