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Netflix's 'Love Is Blind' brings the reality dating show into 2020

Call Your Girlfriend

08:16 min | 4 months ago

Netflix's 'Love Is Blind' brings the reality dating show into 2020

"So love is blind the task at hand so it's a dating reality TV show. Our the premise is people at first like D. Don't get to see each other and they get to talk. How does that make love grow? So love is blind. Elo and Vanessa and Nick O'Shea won't stop saying is loved lines and you're like that is not how the scientific concept of that works but I'm going to let you of it and also like this. You can almost hear the pitch meetings for this show. That's like in an age of tinder and and like seeing. Someone's photo before you ever learn anything else about them like this show you know you can hear how they think. This is extremely radical. And I don't know how to tell you this it is kind of radical but we're GONNA get there in the execution of course not nothing's radical and execution Also we are going to talk about how it's not radical it's very. It's like other cultures. Do this but you know so. You have these contestants who are all conventionally attractive people and to be clear actually the knock eventually intractable. They're all hot like I. It took me like three episodes to realize that everyone was hot because I was so focused on another kind of madness about the show that that had not registered for me at because a show like this is radical. Everyone looks a little bit different. But you're like oh everyone's hot and everyone conveniently lives in the same city so you don't like your the parameters are already like narrowed down to what we're doing. Everyone has a If you watch the bachelor or the Bachelorette you know the job. Titles are always like the best part of the show. This also does not disappoint. Everyone is like a content creator or business owner or a regional manager or just like guys one guy's Kyron just says sales referring to myself as a regional manager just like literally could be anywhere and all of these people are like that so the men and the women are in two separate quarters doned up. The show is really literally about the fact that like Heterosexual people are not okay And they need so much help but so men and women are segregated and then they get to like go into these like upholstered pods and then they like they date like through frosted wall basically. Can I pause here for word about the pods? Every time someone says the Word Pot ice cream yes right portable on demand storage is what I think not to give a shout out to someone who is not advertised on our show but but there is a very funny thing which like okay so full disclosure. You know how like Non Reality TV FLUENT. I am but the last reality show I watched was the queer season of. Are you the one and the first thing that I clocked and laughed at which is also like I think a common element in like a lot of the kind of performing competition reality shows. Is this like hilarious and excessive use of neon that is like supposedly responsive to things that are happening on the show so in like are you the one they go into like a booth to be like are you in fact a match and there's like glowing lights and on and on love is blind. It's like you know we see from above the pulsating outlines of the pod and I'm just like this is such a funny. It reminds me of like seeing people using a computer in a movie in the nineties where it took root seeing things that are like vaguely looking SCIENC- because this is how reality TV works like you are you're accurately honing and on the design of confessional space like this always this like weird design thing always gets deployed well and also it's like this kind of visual way of underscoring like the false premise of the show. That's like there's something scienc- at work here. You know what I mean or like. There's some like greater force at play than just like alcohol. Anyway and Vanessa Lachey greater or it's that's big greater force 'em play here. I was very skeptical. I have to tell you like nothing. What have I not watched like nothing? Stresses ME OUT ON TV anymore? It's like sure you want to do immigration fraud. I'm here for it you want to. I don't know like eat your feelings on TV. I'm here for you. WanNa get like plastic surgery. I'm here for it this show though. This is wild. This is truly wild so people start dating and as suspected when you don't have the stimulus of seeing what someone looks like weird barrier between your if you're open to it people get vulnerable and I like I really disoriented me and then and then I put my thinking cap on and I was like. Oh the reason this show feels like great me and the reason I actually love it as this is just like the Hal version of Love Island. You know like Oh. I was raised in a Muslim home. I know exactly what's going on here. dating in a supervised location check. Never seeing each other until you're in a committed relationship. Check GET PARTITION. Getting married within like two to three weeks check. Check drama for your entire family. Did it like everything here is like this is the most a Muslim TV show that has ever existed before. And so the idea that you know like everyone is like. Oh this is so different. So revolutionary and so whatever and it's like no no like people in other cultures like kind of like this and there is a case to be made for. If you say that you are ready to settle down. There are a lot of societal mechanisms to help you get there right but this is wild. I WanNa talk a little bit about the thing you said about how this setup encourages vulnerability because one thing that I just kept thinking about is like you know the noted phenomenon wherein heterosexual men rely on their romantic partner to be their emotional lifeline for everything right. Like I'm not saying this is every heterosexual man but like as a default studies showing flaked almond. I in fact saying not all men but also statistically like men who are married to women are basically like I'm only emotionally close to my wife like that is definitely documented phenomenon. If you were in my office right now you would see lights flashing as a scientific point in my national booth over here. The light is green yes exactly. It's like she exciting science and one thing I was really struck by is like it really felt like a distillation of that phenomenon. Where like every time I heard one of these male contestants say something like oh I just find myself opening up to her. It's like yeah like yes. Of course I'm going to do here. Exactly and the sequence in one of the early episodes where the contestants are gender segregated so the the women live with other women and the men live with other men and they can see each other and hang out. It's not like a complete pod situation and you know they they edit in the scene where the women are talking about like. What do you think the men are doing right? Now as they sit around and talk about their feelings and one of the women goes probably a push up contest or something and then of course they have footage of all like the men's side of the summer camp or whatever and they are doing various feats of strength and not talking about their feelings. And I have to tell you. I have a question for you on the on the men's feelings front about this show so there is a guy with kind of like a scraggly beard is seen in emotional conversation with the men on their side of the camp. Rory yes and you think rory contestant or as the therapist working for the show so happy you bring up rory because this is so relevant to so much about the show because the minute that I started watching it and I started feeling all these feelings that what is the first thing that I do. I start reading about the production because the people who are manipulating me. So you're bringing tears to my. I just love you so much. He's reading about the past the show.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

11:12 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Was was involved in his son's case in a way it was a very high price cards disappearance brought disarray and Kane closer together back when they sat down for an interview with me I urge them to put their differences aside in the face of this tragedy that happened to both of them they both I believe they were deeply betrayed by the woman Cain Mary they understand each other's pain they both Mr Son terribly and share each other's crippling appling worry and fear over what might have happened to the boy both disarray and Kane regularly speak to detectives hoping that one one day the code will be cracked and it will lead them to their missing son. This is a sad case that started with a missing child but became a circus of Intrigue League because of Cain and Terry's imploding marriage antares alleged wild and suspicious antics what really matters and all that is left now that the dust is settled is that a child is still missing still missing after all these years in that his parents miss him every single day one of the most unnatural things in this life. Life is for a parent to bury their child. There is a cycle of life. Nobody's getting out of this alive. We're all born. We live our lives and then in the cycle of life we pass on our children are supposed to bury us not the other other way around. It's out of SYNC. It doesn't fit our psyche. It doesn't make sense to our minds or our hearts. It turns everything upside down when you deal with the shock and the unnatural circumstance of burying your child child rather than them burying you. It's a shock to your system. It's a shock to your psyche but add to that that the child is lost but you don't know what happened to them. You're robbed of the natural grief process. You're robbed of the piece that you can fine nine from getting closure about your emotions and finding a place to put this. It's replaced with fear depression the feeling that you've failed to protect your child this can absolutely dominate your life and rob you of so many things in your life that you would ordinarily richly deserve and richly experience it can rob existing existing surviving children of their complete emotionally available parent because they only get part of you because part of you has been taken away by this unresolved loss of the missing child. It's called Ambiguous Vegas loss closure. The pain in the confusion can last a lifetime. It just goes against the human need for clarity eric the human need for knowing so you don't create monsters in your mind and this can often cause prolonged grief and grief grief can turn into depression and in depression can turn into paralysis in your life. What does family really really needs to do is find a way to strike a balance of keeping hope alive that carbon will be found while simultaneously grieving leaving his absence not his death but his absence and the best way to do that is to compartmentalize their devotion to finding him. I don't want them to forget about him. I don't want them to stop looking. Stop coping stop trying to bring justice to whoever is responsible for what happened to him but when I say compartmentalize I mean just that mean. Maybe you say I'm going to work on this afternoon a week or two hours a day three days a week and the rest of the time. I'm GONNA give of myself permission to say. I cannot think about that right now. I've got other children to deal with. I have a relationship to deal with. I have a life to deal deal with and I'm not gonNA feel guilty that I'm not thinking about every waking moment because I'm going to assign myself times and maybe a place in the house where we keep records and maps and everything that go into the investigation. That's what I call the police department. That's what I talked to the investigators. That's when I review any new information. I'm going to work on it. During these designated times in a designated place and the rest of the time time I give myself permission to not feel guilty that I have abandoned or betrayed the child or his memory. You just can't get stuck. The reality is you may never get the answers that you long for it could be that the child is lost forever and you will never get the answers you're looking for and if that's true destroying drawing to live three lives four lives. Does it make it better. It only makes it worse. It's a balance it's hard to find and it really requires you giving yourself permission in thinking through the fact that you're never going to forget and it. It's is not a betrayal to find joy in your life the shockwave of this or still felt by this family today. Disarray has never given pope. She is the child's mother she has in the past put blame unfairly on herself saying she should have been there air with him at the science fair instead of Terry if she had had custody of Chiron if she had been there but playing the what if game doesn't change reality what could have happened did and if anyone has the ability for see that kind of thing they would be king king of the world. It's narcissistic to think that you have the ability to foresee these things and be all things to all people. You simply can't do do that and you can't do that to yourself. It certainly is not does raise fault that just adds to the guilt and paralysis assist the family but desharnais is driven and during a recent interview. She brought up an interesting point. She claimed that despite law enforcement having probable probable cause they ultimately decided not to arrest Harry she referred to the infamous Casey Anthony case as a reason for what she believes is a delay interesting. Terry back in two thousand eleven prosecutors charged Casey Anthony before her daughter Kayleigh Anthony's body body had been found the evidence law enforcement had against Casey was overwhelming but she was ultimately acquitted and desharnais believes that the outcome of that trial set a new precedent for other missing children cases by the time the trial came around the jury felt they could not officially determined determine who actually killed a little girl and with that Casey Anthony the woman who at the time was known as the most hated woman in America walked free without a body and no physical evidence. There's not enough to hold Harry questionable life decisions in a mother's. Gut reaction are just not enough to indict say law enforcement is probably probably right going after a murder conviction without a body is possible but it's also very risky there are other famous cases in the media where body discovery spurred legal action Lacey Peterson's disappearance while her husband Scott Peterson's suspicious suspicious behavior and actions were causing mounting evidence. It was not until her corpse washed ashore aw that they apprehended and arrested Scott there are guvener other cases to count of missing children with cases that are near impossible to prove without the discovery of a body or a perpetrators confession take for example the famous case the ATM Patsy a six year old boy from New York City who was abducted on his way to a school bus in nineteen seventy. It became known as one of the most hosts mysterious unsolved missing child cases in the city's history. There were no clues like this case. The child appeared to have vanished into thin air for more than thirty years. E Tans parents never stopped trying to find out what happened to the side. Just like desert after decades aged tips and leads it went nobre. Their sons murder was only saw when his killer who at the time was a local corner store employee. Roy Confess to brutally strangling even with a confession investigators have still never been able to locate body of course there is still the possibility and hope that carbon could be alive while the odd seemed to decrease with every passing year desert race faith is kept alive when she hears other miracle stories of missing children that are alternately safely returned home his Kyran still out there. Where did he wander off it. Someone have there is on the shy good natured seven year old boy and one day they decided sided distraught. There are other theories besides tear. There are of course cases of children and adults alike go missing mm for years are held in dire circumstances against their will in a one day found. I interviewed Michelle Knight. One of the three young women held captive by Ariel Castro in a derelict house in Cleveland when the women finally escaped it was a story that shocked America. They were missing for almost eleven years and almost everyone I thought the girls.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

08:24 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"What more the Dr Phil Show on the go download the watch own APP. That's the Oprah Winfrey network APP where you'll find some of my latest and greatest episodes now lots of other great shows to discover cover and stream there to all you have to do is download authenticate and you're all set. It's that simple the watch own APP get it now. You're all you knew parents out there who want the best for their kids and are tired of choosing between what's best for you baby and what's best for you budget budget. You have to check out. Hello Bello it's the new brand with premium ingredients from my son's good friends Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard that includes diapers wipe shampoo bubble bath even bug spray well. It's just basically everything for you baby best of all. It's really affordable now. I've personally check this out and it's amazing but don't take my word for it. Check it out yourself. Read the labels. Their motto is Hello Bello Goodbye Bad and stuff and they mean it also feel off. The diapers are use lotion and you will be truly impressed. GO TO HELL DOT COM for a subscription that will be delivered straight to your door or go to any WAL MART OR WALMART DOT COM to get your hello. Hello Hello Bello Dot COM WALMART WALMART DOT COM. Hello Hello Bello Goodbye bad stuff as I've often said the the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Now Terry's got to be either one of the unluckiest women who ever lived or as desert believe if she's a manipulator who has managed to keep pulling the wool over the eyes of the law. Terry's reckless behavior was apparent in the time period right after carbons disappearance appearance. It was so selfish so cringe-worthy that it was just straight up tone deaf and insensitive and you know the things that I'm talking about going to the gym to work out the day. Her Stepson went missing without a trace with with her husband at home despondent. She was sexting with another man. She allegedly wanted her husband Kaine. The list goes on and on with her. Her alleged strains co behavior some of it. She admits to some of it she doesn't when you take a step back and look at all of Terry's alleged crimes times and then you parse out those things that she admitted to and you trace this all the way back to her youth. Does it tell you how she operates. Does it tell you the kind of person she is. I can't sit here and tell you that she's a kidnapper. I can't tell you that she's a murderer. I can't tell you that she conspired to do either of those things but if I take away the allegations Gatien's and just look at the things that she admits to however reluctantly she certainly seems to have a problem with impulse control and emotional stability and if the murder for hire and domestic violence allegations are true tears of type of person who might just see the people is disposable. If she sees someone is a problem she might just see violence as the answer. Is it that much of a leap leap to assume someone capable of these alleged acts would also be capable of kidnapping child. Perhaps even murdering child. I I have met Terry. I've talked to Terry interviewed Terry. Ask Her questions. I've observed her behavior listened to her the answers but I've done no formal evaluation of her. I've certainly not treated her to gain any insight into her personality across first time and it would be irresponsible and unethical of me to render a diagnosis of her here. I can tell you what I do know about. Her is unsettling blink. There's no disputing. This woman has a history of deceit. She's been caught in numerous lies. She seems to look out for herself. She seems aims to put herself as a number one priority. She doesn't seem to have the ability to sustain stable. long-term relationships ups when things go south in one place she can always leave town and restart. If these accusations are true. She's the type of person who puts herself under needs before others. Even if that means it puts others in danger and of course one of the strangest things about this case is that this woman is a mother herself. Alf because in addition to her stepson Kyran tear has two other children Kiara the daughter she shares with Kane in an older son from another marriage and her actions. Just don't align with someone who puts her children. I everything she has done seems to have pushed him further away because because of her alleged murder for hire plot terry has lost custody of jar in her divorce with regard to her former boyfriend that she allegedly put a knife to his face. He also threatened his family. If that's true it suggested if you get on Terry's wrong side ride. She won't just come after or threaten you. She may also target those you love when you hear something like that of course Corset hearkens back to chirons case it was alleged that terri resented Kyran. She resented Cain. They're Mary's was going south. Nothing could of hurricane more than making something terrible happen to his child. As desharnais sought canes cheating could have been a motive for Terry to try to punish him in a crewless way apostle. I said Terry's relationship with the law was like the old superstition about the cat even in that superstition the cat add only has nine lives so you have to wonder if Terry's luck with the law will ever run out his desharnais always always says statiscal take one small slip up on her part and this house of cards can come tumbling down if Terry does know something something or if she did hurt Carin. Does she feel remorse or guilt. It does not appear so but then of course that could be because she has nothing to feel guilty the about. She says she feels terrible about it. If these recent allegations are valid then she may be as volatile as ever but then again she's been through the wringer she has been convicted in the court of public opinion and I know that can change a person person. Maybe it's really affected her and caused. Instability caused. Impulsiveness caused a low frustration tolerance. None of us can say for certain that she's guilty in the case of Carbon Hormann but she sure made it impossible possible for the public to believe her the alleged criminal acts only served to heighten public suspicion and make de ray even more certain than ever that she intentionally he plotted to cause car in harm s for Kane the now ex husband of both desert and Terry well. He still lives in Oregon where he is raising Kiara for the past eight years he has organized kearns car show the charity event that raises money for Kyron Horman German Foundation which spreads awareness for Kyron and other missing children hundreds gathered at the most recent car show of it this past August Cain has stated that he believes his son is very much alive. He doesn't hope he says he believes he certain he has to believe that carbon is alive in order to push forward in this interview in Twenty Fifteen Cain spoke out about how he deals with believing his ex wife. Terry.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

11:48 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Desharnais right is her maternal instinct correct is TERI walking free for a heinous crime the abduction and possibly the murder of her stepson despite tons of both public and police pressure Terry has never once wavered from her statement that she is completely innocent and and she would never hurt carbon and while Terry may not be voted wife or mother of the year then ear her affair air and other suspicious behaviors. Don't necessarily make her guilty. There are a lot of people guilty of infidelity who didn't kill L. E. Buddy for a long time desharnais clung to the hope that police would charge Terry. She still does nearly a decade that cade later during the investigation. Terry seemingly raised enough red flags to SOA quilt desharnais holds out hope because is there is not the statute of limitations on the crimes. She believes Terry guilty. There was the affair the alleged murder-for-hire plot against Kane in her seemingly cold and distant demeanor and actions the day of and following Karen's disappearance that all had to mean something right to this day. Delray has a flicker of hope that someone someday somewhere we'll hear something or glean some new information from Terry sorry or new evidence that finally proves her guilt and forces her to answer to the law she doesn't win. She doesn't know how she doesn't know why maybe Terry will get intoxicated. Somewhere and loose lips sink ships. Maybe she'll say something somewhere someday that she shouldn't say and and it will lead to finding out something that she does want found out. Disarray doesn't know how it'll happen. She just hopes that it will so so. Let's talk about where. Terry is today. On our last podcast we detailed a dramatic divorce. Proceedings between Terri and Karen's father came. This wasn't just a marital split cane claims he feared for his life and wanted a restraining order against Terry Portland judge signed off on the divorce and order in December of twenty thirteen. Kane got to keep the house in Portland and got custody of their daughter Chiara. The woman Cain had once welcomed into his son's life the woman he had exchanged thous with and shared a bed with was now the woman he believed responsible for his child's disappearance. Not only that Cain believes to this day that Terry also wanted him dead. Kane may be free from Terry now at least on paper uh but his missing son and the former couple's daughter Chiara bind them together forever Karanitski Ours half-brother. If if Terry did harm him then she hurt her own daughter's blood and deprived her of a sibling terry tried relocating leading to another small town near Portland to live with their parents and start with a clean slate but the move did not help her lead a normal life after finding Oregon liveable due to the accusations in media frenzy surrounding the case she packed up and moved down the coast to start again and to try and start a new life. DMV records show terry relocated to Sacramento California. She is also also made multiple attempts to change her name. One of the new name she tried to adopt was Clare Sullivan which is the name of the protagonist tag missed in the nineteen sixties. Murder mystery novel called call in the night. It somewhat eerie that Terry would try to choose this name for herself. In the book. Claire Goes to Paris to look for her missing sister then finds romance and adventure along the way way. I find it a bit on the nose to change your name to a character that is albeit fictionally involved in a missing person's case that seems a little exhibition mystic to me. There's something we talk about. Lynn deception detection called Duping Delight. It's where people kind of do things. They think to get away with and they thumb. I'm their nose at you. They just can't quite keep themselves from rubbing. Your nose in it is that what's going on here. Who knows house. It's also interesting to wonder if Terry related to this character because she fancies herself the glamorous heroine of her own life story forced to live a life on the Lam through no fault of her own but despite her attempts judges repeatedly denied her request to to change her name ruling that Terry Changing her name was just not in the interest of the public however a new life has begun for Terry in in California in some ways she met a man Jose Zeus Vasquez Martinez. She married him in two thousand eighteen finally finally getting her wish for a new last name she now goes by Terry. Vazquez Terry might live in the shadow of looming suspicion but it's away from Oregon. Terry's ex husband. Kane still has custody of their young daughter. Chiara Terry is not in contact with her. She they have gotten yourself to a new town but problems still seemed to follow Terry or rather. She still seems to be causing herself problems. Since Fling California seemingly to escape public scrutiny Terry has had multiple disturbing run INS with the law in Twenty fifteen terry was charged with stealing a former roommates gun. When police apprehended her the gun was on her and yet after she faced a grand theft firearm charge she was still ultimately found not guilty terry was also arrested for driving a stolen vehicle in twenty sixteen and no charges were ever filed against her due to prosecutors not finding enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt most shocking of all in late twenty sixteen. Terri Horman faced domestic violence charges is after her former boyfriend. Joseph Cristobal accused her of threatening him with a knife. He was granted a two new year restraining order against Terry Terry hormones former boyfriend had this to say in his statement regarding the incident. I'm fearing for my life life. I don't even know what she is capable of. She put a knife kitchen knife to my face and threatened. Something is going to happen to me me or my family. If I spoke to police hearing about Terry serious run INS with the law following chirons disappearance did not surprised surprised as array. She told one local. NBC News Outlet. I think her time is running out. I think she knows that we're getting closer and closer to her and I think that she rightly so should be scared. Disarray went on to say about about her son's former stepmother. I am extremely concerned at someone else will be hurt by Terri Horman before she is put in jail. She needs to know that she is. I'm not above the law and we need to hold her that measure and expectation when it comes to the law. Terry seems to have the nine lives of a cat. Let's take a stroll down. Memory Lane of the other two major alleged crimes. She was suspected of prior to these offenses. The murder-for-hire plotted for former husband Kane which resulted in him divorcing her and getting a restraining order against her as well as of course suspected but never proven involvement in her steps as disappearance now common sense says that if you have just been put under the microscope by law enforcement and public opinion regarding your step son's disappearance and you managed somehow to wiggle your way out of that situation situation without any charges you would think you would thank your lucky stars and try to clean up your act and keep your head down and stay off police radar but that's obviously not the case with Terry. She seems to be acting without any concern concern for consequences whatsoever. Now ask yourself this. How many people in your life do you know that have been suspected acted of kidnapping murder for hire plots and have not one but two restraining orders against slam by men. WHO FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES? I'll give you a minute count up. I'm guessing it's a pretty short list. She is at best a statistical anomaly. You might think that's all to the story of Terri but is not the alleged lead skeletons in this woman's closet just seem to keep piling up in twenty seventeen seven years after carbons disappearance. Terry he was living in Roseburg Oregon with her parents trying to salvage what was left of a reputation and police found themselves with yet another allegation Asian of a murder for hire blob another one of Terry's boyfriends alleged that thirty years prior Terry had wanted him dead and and had put a plan into motion to get rid of him. According to Terry's former boyfriend shawn ray his life threatening incident occurred all the way back in Nineteen Ninety when Terry was twenty years old and Sean was Eighteen Sean alleges that it was a typical day for the young couple they were seated on the front lawn of Terry's family home in Roseburg Roseburg. They hid just sat down to eat when a strange man suddenly appeared sean claims he came out of the bushes. The ambush was terrifying for Sean. He says the man brandished a gun but thankfully didn't fire any shots according to Sean Terry said and he quotes. It's he's here for you. The things like that just didn't happen in their small town. Why would a man suddenly luggage out out of the Bushes and start making threats waving a gun around assure -Tarian Sean didn't have a perfect relationship. She was known to be controlling a an aggressive but to have him murdered the encounter left. Shawn Deeply Afraid Attari needless to say he broke up with her soon after he moved away and was relieved to get some distance as we know that day in nineteen.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

08:33 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Only one out of two thousand fail to to cooperate failed to take a polygraph failed to step up and do what you would expect a grieving concern parent right to do so. It's very rare that the parent of a missing child doesn't take whatever steps it's necessary to exclude themselves statistically. It's very rare now once you get. Terry talking it becomes clear that her go to move move is as I said in my opinion is to deflect blame from herself by accusing speaking negatively of others whether it's desert array the police her former husband Kane this is what she had to say about Cain and desert raise accusations. I really don't have anything I can say about. Qena that I know that he's lying. He lied through his teeth in order for him to gain a house to gain money. desharnais needs to get a grip and understand this is about finding Kyron and she knows darn well the by misrepresenting by fabricating and just for her hate in me alone she needs is to help get the focus back on him and finding him in Harry's mind. She's the victim the way she sees desert array in Kane conspired against her to pay her as the bad guy. She didn't try to have her husband murdered. He made it up to get her house alson child. She was justified in sexting another man because cain cheated on her first desharnais just hates her so as leading her personal feelings failings takeover hell will freeze over before. Terry takes responsibility for anything she does there. There are just certain people in this world certain personality types that just have a problem with accountability and it permeates every aspect of their life they just have a problem stepping up and owning what they do in their life you find this characteristic runs through a lot of personality disorders. You see it in antisocial personality disorder order you see it in borderline personality disorder. UCF in narcissistic personality disorder so it's not specific to just one type of personality disorder. It's one of those things that underlies a sense of entitlement with people that just don't want to be held L. to countable. They're always in a victim row. They're never accountable. Nothing is their fault. They're always on the side of being the victim of circumstances being the victim of someone else's ill intent but they just don't ever her own. What they've done you know here. You have someone that a very short time. After a child is is missing is reportedly giving into impulses and is sexting someone not their husband and and obviously that's behavior. That's very inappropriate to what would be expected in the situation now. This is inappropriate on several different levels obviously number one. It's inappropriate to be doing that with someone. Not your mate. It's inappropriate appropriate to be doing that in a timeframe when all of your emotional energy you would expect to be absorbed into into the fear and dread associated with a child. You say you've raised as your own being missing. You would be thinking that the person would be playing scenarios out in their head. Where could the child be. What could they be going through right now. Are they. A cold are they hungry are they being molested. Tortured are they perhaps dead and lying in a ditch somewhere you play all these horrific scenarios out in your mind that seems inconsistent with sexual arousal and one would say well then. Maybe it's escapism. Maybe it's behavior where you say. Is this a social eve behavior where somebody this is so painful that they dissociate from that almost like a split personality and run to something else else and that would explain that behavior but that's not what you heard from her. You heard her justify this will. He cheated on me. I you'll fully aware of what she was doing. Just justifying it so it's inappropriate several different levels and that's what I mean when I say she didn't do herself any favors in the court of public opinion when these things come out now is everything that came out into media about her true. I highly doubt it said that she attempted to hire hit man to kill her husband. Is that true. It was alleged. It was not proved if it's true that's very damning timing information. It was certainly talked about a lot but if it was true I mean if there was a basis for this evidence what you would think that she he would have been arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder never happened so. I have no doubt that some some of the things that were alleged against her in media were not true but if just the things that she admitted to our true they seem really inappropriate for someone. That was truly grieving. The disappearance and loss of a child and what we do know is that despite Terry Harry allegedly being the last person to see the child live there was no physical evidence or any kind of trail ever sovereignly linking her uh to his disappearance even so because of how she was portrayed in the media and because of of those things that she actually admitted to Terry will likely wear an imaginary scarlet letter the rest of her life. She's known as the woman in who allegedly wanted her husband and step child in despite her repeated and consistent claims of innocence since despite the fact that her life up to that point gave no indication no clue of any criminal motivation or any any criminal conduct. She was trained as a teacher. She chose to work with children. She aspired to be a superintendent. She aspired appeared to be in a career that was devoted to the development of children so there's just no easy answer in the real world in real life cases. They don't get solved in fifty nine minutes and fifty seconds when the music track clicks aw that's what happens on TV. That's not what happens in real life. Many of those passionate follow this case think that tears guilty both of carbons parents think that Terry is responsible for his disappearance and yet despite the manning circumstantial evidence surrounding Terry and of course police suspicion. She has still never been formerly charged with any kind of criminal behavior regarding his disappearance. Whether Terry was involved in cars ars disappearance or is completely innocent. Her life changed forever on that Fateful Day in June of twenty ten her life changed changed and enlists Kyran his failed and or someone else is deemed responsible. A cloud of suspicion and whispers will follow her wherever she goes she is clearly a social pariah as the famous saying goes mother knows.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

10:29 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Nine years have passed since seven year old. Kyron Horman went missing after after his elementary school science fair in Portland Oregon for years police Karen's mother Desharnais young and the nation have grappled grappled with what has become known as the largest most expensive criminal investigation case in Oregon's history mystery swirled around the seven year olds disappearance disappearance children don't just vanish into thin air on a typical school day and carbon was a happy child who certainly would have never run away at least according to his parents he was well behaved described by his parents is a bit timid scared to do things is by himself not the kind of child who ever caused trouble or would have dared to venture out into the unknown by himself. This was a crime story that had all the hallmarks elements that captured nationwide interest a missing sweet child a family drama that seems straight out out of the daytime soap opera in the stepmother who was suspected to be anything but the caring maternal figure. She presented herself to be now. Nearly a decade later. The media firestorm has halted news vans and camera crews no longer camp outside Sidecar in school or his parents homes the massive searches with volunteer crews of a thousand headwind. Mrs How many cases go when the news of a missing child I breaks the victim's face is plastered on newspaper covers distraught family members or interviews news correspondents co-respondents comment on their theories and on case developments and the parents town at least for a time hug their tildren just a little tighter at night reminded that right in their neighborhood a mother's worst nightmare has happened and that means means he could happen it in but life goes on the pandemonium stops and the initial sting of the story fades reformer fear that Karen's disappearance once caused the masses is now a hazy sad memory instead of current threat. The hush seems to have settled over the case for the past few years according to the sheriff's Office and desharnais herself. The case is still very much active but the trail seems to have gone cold or has it what keeps his case alive even more within the hardworking police is desharnais young's lifelong pursuit to find her son and to solve once and for all the question that haunts our every waking moment what on earth happened to her innocent little boy and is there any chance even the slightest remote chance that he might be still alive living somewhere else. There's a lot of talk doc when it comes to this case about the wicked stepmother. It's what makes for a headline story. The salacious details of a case are what attract public attention we know about. Terry's bizarre actions we know about these was our actions that are alleged to have happened. But what do they tell us us about who she really is. Then on the other end of the spectrum carbons mother de right as an example of the links apparent will go for their child. She's a fire that cannot be put out on this episode will explore the most recent developments in this this case that have given disarray hope that toll chirons disappearance and the dramatic investigation has taken on carbons family and what the future might might hold. Is there really any chance of still finding Kyron or has it come to the point that we're no longer looking for child. We're now looking for a body. This is Dr Phil and you're listening to industry and the mysterious disappearance of Kyron horman looking for ad free episodes of my podcast. You can listen to every new episode. Ad Free only on stitcher premium for a free month's trial stitcher premium go to stitcher premium. I'M DOT COM and use Promo code fill STITCHER PREMIUM DOT COM and use Promo Code P. H. I l. pod swag. Is Your one stop shop for podcasts merch like shirts hoodies mugs assessories and more you get thirty percent off with code fill bill thirty. That's pod SWAG DOT com slash. Dr Phil and use code fill thirty both local searches by thousands of volunteers and professional rescue teams have turned up nothing. I mean nothing in the endless endless years since the worst day of desert as life the day her son Kyron disappeared without a trace from his elementary school but Karen's mother refuses to give up ever since her son. Went Missing Desert Ray has often bravely ventured into the vast green forest of Oregon the herself joining crews who literally leave no stone unturned looking for that little boy or some clue of where he might have gone on and what may have happened to him. They're looking for him. They're looking for a threat of his clothing. They're looking for anything that might suggest a direction that he traveled or that. He may have been taken any clue any physical evidence by joining the search disarray. No she risked the unthinkable. I mean it's a parent's worst nightmare. Possibly finding her son's remains and knowing for certain that her child is dead. I mean think about it you go through the trauma and the shock of your child disappearing the agonizing weeks months and years of worry and wondering how horrific would it be for you to move some leaves or moves some branches or something that was stacked up and find your own child's body underneath it's almost unthinkable but yet she continues to put one foot in front of the other and look for what she both hopes and fears to find she has helped fellow searchers explore floor. Seemingly endless forest and streams desharnais has watched as a searcher finds alone article of abandoned clothing or even a remote bone. It's a pit in your stomach that never leaves not knowing if it's the bone of a wild animal or a piece of your missing sern learn and still as Reagan was looking for physical signs of carbon because not knowing where her son is in constantly wondering appears dead or alive is even more of a daily tour visit ray has to know and cannot bear the thought of living the rest of her life without knowing knowing what has become of Kyran because as the title implies he seemingly disappeared into thin there one moment he was there the next moment he was just gone. How can that what happened. His disappearance was a hurricane that ravaged desharnais interacts husband canes live the aftermath of their son's disappearance impacts packs them to this very day of course you've desert. Ray is the stoppable heroin of this story. The infamous character is allegedly Italy Terry and in the Court of public opinion many believe she is gilded in desert as mine. Terry areas guilty. If not of murder desharnais says Dan definitely of chirons kidnapping now while desert ray has spent the past years living a gut wrenching mystery. She believes that Terri knows exactly what happened. She believes that Terry can unlock this mystery tree that she knows where Kyron is. She knows what happened that she knows the answer to every question that haunts her disarray every minute of every day it's understandable why. Terry is a prime suspect in the eyes of the public and members of carbons family even to this day. We know she didn't do herself. Any favors in the wake of Kyran going missing. Terry slipped all too easily into the role of the lifetime movie villainess step mom some armchair detectives have even referred to her as the wicked red head of the northwest her actions before during and after Cairo disappearance showed a woman who seen vengeful and selfish elfish if you believed everything that was published if you connected the dots that were put out there. We know for example that she's a cheater. We know that she is someone who is hell bent on getting what she wants and has the kind of personality analogy that many described as someone that will not doubt anyone who dares get in her path. These are opinions so are they factual. We don't know.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

08:43 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"The only circumstantial evidence does raise lawyers had seemed to strengthen her defense her lawyer argued that the suspicious suspicious man in the white trunk the cell phone signal near Savi island the alleged murder for hire plot the DD allegedly buying an untraceable phone were nothing but fabrication spun by a Bias Media and an overworked sheriff's department all eager to find the perpetrator. That's not how the law works house. New Disarray would have an extremely difficult time attempting to prove Terry's culpability desharnais also alleged intentional infliction of emotional distress also very difficult to prove but with the claim of custodial interference evidence concerning Terry's neglect and history of alcoholism ism it could be argued but chirons life in danger on October. Fifth Twenty twelve the civil lawsuit against Terry brought forth by desharnais began one of the first people to be questioned with Didi Spicer who finally had the opportunity to tell her side of the story to court about where she really was on June fourth twenty ten from eleven thirty to one. PM This was her opportunity to set the record straight. Craig about allegedly purchasing traceable phone for Terry but instead DD plead the fifth two hundred and forty two times. She insisted that she was gardening in Germantown all morning long and beyond that invoked the Fifth Amendment to to many people it instantly raised a cloud of suspicion on whether or not she was telling the truth in response to D- pleading the fifth one hundred forty two times times desert as lawyer filed a motion it would force Didi to answer additional questions. He argued that Didi may not plead the fifth in in order to hide knowledge about a friend's criminal conduct desharnais in her lawyer had hoped to squeeze some kind of usable information or even even a confession out of Didi desharnais unfortunately was alone in his legal process in that she didn't have much of Cain support while they remained the united in front of the cameras privately. It was a very different story. CAIN was in the middle of two legal proceedings against against terry their divorce and acquiring her financial records he had little or no time to help desharnais and the truth is while desharnais actively actively assisted investigators cain was not as willing to cooperate for the past two years the sheriff's office scoured his home and checked every inch the property but that invitation only extended to the sheriff's Office to outside investigators not so much many people highly criticized Cain for this. He insisted that investigators are always welcome to search his home specifically as backyard but it's off limits to outside parties. It raises the question. Why would they not want as many forensic professionals to scour through his backyard as possible it was out of concern for privacy and because investigators had initially requested to search the backyard but to excavate it completely back where he drew the line. I have an open invitation with law enforcement and search and rescue teams certified search search and rescue teams to search my property anytime when I was called I said no to the private search but I immediately said and I will continue to say right now anytime time anytime the sheriff's office and the search and rescue teams WanNa come with their dogs. It's already my property qualify with my. He's been searched more than the schoolhouse. Probably Uh my invitation is open always open now to be clear. Disarray doesn't think that Cain had some involvement in terms disappearance but she does think that the backyard it could have been a place where Terry might have allegedly hid evidence great opportunity for Terry. She wouldn't have been seen by anybody doc. Some people took the position that if there was even a possibility that Terry hid evidence of Kyran in his backyard wouldn't it concerned concerned. Father had dug so deep until there wasn't even any dirt left. There was even the slightest change that chirons is remains are buried deep in the backyard. I wouldn't allow investigators to search it. Property claims you did claims it. His property had been searched more than the school but a thorough excavation never took place kate has his reasons but it continues to demonstrate an ongoing pattern of how a couple both his parents look would ask if she had failed tyronn. Dez Array Hill backer tears and nodded yes to hear apparent apparent admit that concerning missing child is absolutely heartbreaking. No parent should carry that no parent should have to endure that guilt aw for desert young there was a lot she needed to endure because the road ahead is going to get a lot harder before it got any easier for the remainder. You're of twenty twelve going in two thousand thirteen multiple lawsuits against Terry from Kane and Dez array remained stagnant. Neither party could prove Terry did anything. It was becoming increasingly difficult to land in indictment. The lawyers knew that to judge new jury knew that witnesses like Didi Spicer visor in Rudy Sanchez were cooperative to an extent refusing and claiming allegations that couldn't be corroborated. The allegations were nothing but he said she she said statements and hearings KIP getting delayed again and again and again while the court battles were going in circles the rising cost of lawyer. Oh you're fees just kept adding up the media circus wooden. Give them an answer privacy. Their lives are being exposed frequently on national television and even worse after three years since Kyron vanished the search effort. Nelly comprised of a few dozen volunteers was going nowhere. Desert was a realist even with charging Terry with custodial interference. It would have been a long shot before. The judge granted her ten million dollars in damages. She knew her lawsuit was not going to end the way she had hoped which is why she had to make difficult decision on. July thirtieth twenty thirteen desert and her lawyer held a press conference where she announced that she was going to drop her civil suit against Terri Horman her reasoning the lawsuit was not able to move forward without information that the sheriff's office would not release because of the ongoing investigation in her statement. She said this decision. Today does not mean that. I will be giving up looking for carbon. My will and determination nation has only strengthened over the past three years but despite disarray dropped her lawsuit Canes Court battle with her was still ongoing and neither of them. We're going to wave labor white flag. Terry May of moved away but in the coming years she would have to return to the spotlight and face a legal judgment swint her attorney may have done his best to delay subsequent hearings but the case against Terri Horman was just beginning. Did the judge successfully grant cain a divorce from Terry. Did the investigation reach a breaking point several years after carbon mysteriously disappeared and was was terry going to prison for her alleged involvement. These questions and more will be answered on next week's episode and trust me me. This is going to be one finale. You do not want to miss. This is into thin air. The mysterious disappearance of Kyron Horman Dr Phil thanks for Listening.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

11:31 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Years earlier her when she was a competing bodybuilder and juxtaposed them with Paparazzi pictures of her current weight and disheveled appearance like carbon search and rescue efforts the grand jury hearing was a media circus dozens of reporters swarmed the courthouse asking for comments from Kane Desert Array and Terry the hearings were meant to be discreet since it wasn't an official trial but it was such a badly kept secret that everyone no one knew about it and that was just one of three court appearances that Terry head to attend the second was the divorce hearing that she had exclusively with Kane A. and the third where the hearings about her being held in contempt of court for sharing seal documents with Michael Cook later that month on August twenty fifth fifth Terry and her divorce attorney Peter Much arrived to the same courthouse for hearing on the divorce proceedings Kate however was not at this hearing an Only his lawyer arrived on his behalf. Reporters took note that Terry was still wearing her wedding ring. During the hearings both sides made their or cases to the judge about three particular topics keep in mind. This was just a scheduling hearing in order for the judge to set a later date in which both parties could begin their oral arguments. There were three topics discussed one. Kane wanted to know that if in fact Terry very had paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to her attorney. Where did she get it. It was troubling to him how she could afford hiring one of Oregon's most renown criminal defense lawyers second Terry wanted all the legal issues that came filed against her including the divorce and contempt of court charge postpone for up to two years that would mean any legal ramifications wouldn't be announced until twenty twenty why why did Terry fight for this well most likely because her attorney wanted to keep her out of any situation that would get her under oath that way. Terry would not be forced to answer hard questions that could put her in a position of having to equivocate. Take the fifth or risk perjury return a strategy when criminal prosecutors are reluctant to bring a case is to file a civil suit against the target so you can get discovery you can discover documents phone records travel records and caused that person listen to sit for a deposition in a criminal case. The prosecutor is not entitled to discovery and cannot take the deposition initiative a criminal defendant by filing a civil suit. I it's possible to create a lot of evidence. A lot of information nations that the criminal prosecutors can then use to fortify their case any good defense lawyer will try to derail that that so their client is not subject to examination and production of documents or information to help the the prosecutor third canes lawyer insisted to the judge that Terry be held in contempt of court until the next hearing but that motion was denied died although it didn't seem like it given the media fervor outside the courtroom this particular hearing seemed to be going. Terry's direction and not only did the judge reject the contempt of court charge but the request to proceed with a divorce was also rejected because terry was unofficially a defacto suspect in an ongoing missing persons investigation having a divorce proceedings delayed bought Terry and her defense team enough time to build a strong defense argument. It also bought them time just in case Kane decided to drop opt contempt charge or of the search and rescue found Kyran or his remains and cleared Terry. Kane is you might have imagined was furious. His lawyer spoke to reporters outside the courthouse claiming that Terry's defense was built around stalling as much as possible in order to avoid quote possible self-incrimination but then something changed a few weeks later. Cain announced that he and his lawyers were going to drop the contempt of court charge against Terry. This is exactly what what Terry's team had hoped for by Kane dropping the charge her attorney would use that to bolster his defense that his client was innocent and so why exactly did Cain and his lawyers drop the contempt of court charge what records did not disclose that information but most likely we may have been for two reasons one there were too many lawsuits filed by Kane against Terry and the cost of paying his lawyers for each the case was becoming too burdensome to the contempt of court case was distracting Kirin's investigation Cain was already taking Terry to court in their marriage and to find out how she was able to pay for her attorney's retainer adding another lawsuit on top of those two would have just taken the spotlight even farther away from the search for his missing zone and that may have been exactly what house wanted to allow him more time to develop a defence therefore the judge cancelled the September twenty first hearing thing in order the parties to begin their oral arguments on October Saban's regarding the other pending motions however Terry's divorce attorney Peter Budge asked the court to hold in abeyance any discussion of dividing property financial child custody or parental matters in the divorce during the criminal investigation of chirons disappearance the reason for this was because Terry's lawyers believe they would not be able to sufficiently perform their duties while their client was under the national spotlight and under heavy media scrutiny in other words. Terry's lawyers wanted to delay divorce proceedings until the media stopped hounding Terry and following her everywhere she went naturally early. Canes lawyers contested the delay and we're happy to appear in court on October seven in a statement on page E. W. A. The local local news station in Portland Cain clarified why he dropped the contempt of court charges saying it's an act of good faith on their part. It shows that we're serious about about not wasting the court's time side issues we want to get the divorce wrapped up so we can deal with the important things and move forward. We need to get this wrapped up. Bigger issues that need to be dealt with and of course he was talking about finding carbon by any means necessary. Come Thursday October seventh cain his attorney. Laura Ratner arrived at the county courthouse. They square off against Terry and her divorce attorney. Peter Bunch cameras were not permitted inside the courtroom but reporters snuck in their phones and and live tweeted the oral arguments leading the rest of the country in on what was happening inside the courtroom. Peter Bunch began his defense and he did not hold back one bit arguing that Terry was subject of more than one criminal investigation as a launching point. He argued the following. The state has the ability to obtain every single bit of information that is produced in this case and that is outside the bounds of what it could do where this proceeding seating not occurring it is fundamentally unfair for Kiara and for Miss Hormann for me to be Hamstrung in the divorce course case for the information. I have compared to what they have. The publicity that's going on is not being driven by Ms Hormann. It's being driven by Mr Hormann when he tells national media. There's no doubt MS foreman is involved. If Mr Hormone is really interested in what's best as for the child and Mr Herman wouldn't object to any visitation by this child's mother. We'll concede. Mr Hormann can have the house right now. Mrs Torment is going to lose money. What was difficult about this divorce. Hearing was brought up the issues of custody and if you remember in two thousand four you're desharnais returned from Canada and did not seek full custody of Karen. This brought back a number of painful memories for her. You're did you know that you can take coloring your hair at home to the the next level with Madison Reed for decades women have had two options for colouring their hair outdated at home color or the time and expensive a salon on every part of the Madison Reed Experience has lovingly crafted by expert colorist so you can color at home with total confidence. Madison Reed lead makes luxurious at home here color with ingredients. 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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

10:06 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Of the growing cost of the search effort the sheriff's office received an enormous amount of pressure from both their superiors ears and the public to find some closure to this investigation by November twenty ten the search for Kyron had cost Oregon more or than one point four million dollars the state record for a missing persons case and not one step closer to finding finding this missing child this money had gone to fund wide perimeter search parties pay for additional out of state resources and financing budgets for several several departments not to mention overtime hours research and more despite few clues desharnais was one hundred percent certain at Terry had allegedly either abducted. Her son orchestrated his kidnapping. She made the point that if Terry could allegedly try to orchestrate a murder for hire plot against Kane who is to say she couldn't pay someone to kidnap a child desert had also come to the grim realization that her son could likely be dead and so she filed a lawsuit against Terry making those same claims Terry just wrote off the lawsuit as is the next move in a sick publicity stunt to paint her as the villain at Lisa the argument her defense lawyer Stephen House was trying to make Stephen Stephen was an intense and high powered defense lawyer. He's considered one of Portland's best if not the best criminal defense lawyer who has a stringent reputation for being relentless in avoiding jail time for his clients for any defense lawyer. It's not about proving someone is innocent. It's about proving they're not guilty and those are two very different concepts. The burden was on on the state. The burden was on the prosecutor. He did not have to prove that she was innocent. They had to prove she was guilty and his singular purpose was to make sure that did not happened. He did not have to prove that Terry did not abduct Kyran conspire and his disappearance but to disprove the evidence brought forth by Kane and desert as lawyers and that was a hill that seemed seemed very surmountable because all the evidence was circumstantial. There was not one shred of physical evidence that connected her due to the disappearance. There was simply no concrete evidence to indict terri in any capacity for Karen's disappearance. It's now July Thirteenth Thirteenth Twenty ten terry's attorney enters the courthouse and speaks with the judge to confirm that he will be representing Terry in court as well as any legal proceedings regarding the Cairo investigation as will defense attorney Peter Bunch afterward during a press conference he also informed reporters he would defend in her against the slanderous and conspiratorial accusations levelled against her by the media the public and specifically Kane in disarray who he claimed had made it their their mission aside from finding the child to see his client behind bars despite zero evidence existing that she had anything at all to do with his going missing after finding out that Terry had hired Steven to represent her in court cain. Ask the judge to hold Terry in contempt of court for allegedly showing Michael Cook an old friend of canes and the man Terry was having an affair with a sealed petition of his restraining order. If you remember Michael Cook was the man that Terry had been sexting three weeks after carbon disappeared because she was having an affair with him. She allegedly showed Oh him sealed documents that were confidential in their divorce case. This was of course an attempt to derail. Terry's defense in order to get her arrested it as soon as possible but with a high powered defense attorney now on board that was just unlikely to happen. Many critics have said that Terry lawyering up indicated she had something to hide but when it comes to matters of law it's quite the opposite by hiring a lawyer and not just anyone but a highly recognized esteem lawyer. Terry was defending herself from a position in which she found herself innocent at every turn when Keynes requests for a contempt of court backfired he attempted another strategy to obstruct Terry's legal defense this time it had to do with the judge judge looking into her financial statements at how she was able to afford her attorney services in the first place according to jail records from previous case of Stevens Stevens he had charged the client retainer of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars assuming he charged the same Terry it beg egg the question how on Earth was terry able to afford a quarter of a million dollars. If you remember from before Kyron disappeared your Terry was mostly a stay at home. Mom often volunteering at skyline elementary but while she wasn't at home raising three kids or volunteering at at school she was taking subsitute jobs at other schools like she did when she was getting her master's degree wasn't much and it didn't happen often but it still provided her with a small income so she wouldn't have to be totally rely on on K with meager salary and dedicated most of her alive in raising three children. It was truly mind boggling. How Terry was able to afford a lawyer that they assumed had a two hundred didn't fifty thousand dollars retainer. CAIN also felt that it begs the question where would she have had ten thousand dollars to pay someone to kill Cain with Desharnais Cain the public and the media beating her to a pulp she was against the ropes and she needed a strong attorney to get her up on her feet. Stephen House did normally have a quarter million dollar retainer that would easily make him one of Portland's most expensive criminal defence lawyer and fortunately for Terry his record proved that his services were well worth the money he had made a name for himself. After all he spent his entire career beating leading the odds and defending high profile clients that surely were at risk of going to jail for example his past clients dance included giant Patel Australia's Dr Death and terrorism suspect mayor my car wash these men were alleged edge to be no ordinary killers they were seemingly infamous for their alleged brutal attacks and for allegedly being involved at the center her grizzly and unspeakable crimes that didn't exactly put Terry and good company and even though she was never charged she was being treated as as having committed just as heinous of a criminal act as those men had been accused so she needed an attorney that could handle that at the started started their client relationship. Terry's attorneys first job was convincing her to forego any and all media interviews everything she said was twisted against her and she was constantly. He being portrayed horribly in the media. Silence would be her best weapon. It is often said those who don't talk walk he he was her lawyer and he would also act as her spokesperson of sorts speaking for her in front of the media on August second twenty ten the missing persons investigation allegation takes a step forward because of questions swirling around the landscaper and Didi Spicer a grand jury assembles to hear the sworn testimonies onis from people of interest who may have evidence against Terry among these people of interest are most notably Didi Terry's best friend Orient and rudy who accused her asking him to kill her husband later in the week several friends of Terri as well as the principle of skyline elementary are also called a grand jury panel of seven people the grand jury listen to the witnesses presented by the District Attorney's Office and based on that evidence. May indited defendant. If five of the juries concur the defendant or the defendant's attorney are not present during the grand jury process the grand jury panel determines based upon the witnesses testimony. A felony crime has been committed. The defendant is indicted but what was unique about this grand jury is that it was unlikely that Terry was going to be indicted at least in the eyes of Terry's defense team her lawyer. Oh you're knew that the prosecution would not have sufficient evidence to present to the grand jury because chirons investigation was not complete. It was still L. ongoing. They didn't have answers. They didn't have evidence to present. Kane is among the first people to give his official testimony similar to what he told police on the night. Kyron disappeared but there's a stronger focus on putting the blame on Terry. What's interesting to note is that Cain was not wearing his wedding ring during his hearing after the first day of hearing Terry's attorney spoke to the press waiting outside the courtroom claiming his client was the subject subject of threats and if these hearings amounted to nothing more than a witch hunt and he said this because the media's reporting on her was getting Personal Schnelle during this time TV news programs were displaying pictures of bikini-clad Terry from two thousand five five.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

11:44 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"Talk about that. She didn't detect these to know about if this this wasn't true if there was nothing for her to hide communication wise. Why would she need a phone? No one could trace however police never found this has Mr foe and Terry vehemently denied its existence claiming she would have never needed one because neither she nor Didi had anything to to do with Karen going missing and she had absolutely nothing zero to hide Terry's lawyer called the speculation about her Aditi. Nothing short of a witch Hunt Didi insisted that she had nothing to do with the boy's disappearance and said she was being pressured by investigators gator to Nail Terri when speaking to people magazine's she said quote they wanted me to tell them that Terry did it or that. Terry knew something I told him everything that I knew over and over again but I didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. Didi also insisted she does not believe Terry had anything to do with carbons disappearance telling people. I just really don't in my heart. I really don't in all of these years. I have not not seen anything that would lead me to believe that she is capable or motivated in any way to do something like this. Well both Canaan Disarray Believe Didi was somehow involved in their census appearance. Didi was called to testify before grand jury. She hired a lawyer in police noted got it and I quote. She was the only witness that we know of. That's lawyered up for someone who's got nothing. I think to hide and is fully cooperative. That's a strange way to show it. I have to depart here for a minute and comment on that if you've been interrogated over and over and over again and they're searching your vehicle. They're searching your home there. You've got someone alleging that you've left your job and there's a child missing and you're getting ready to testify under oath you damn well better. Get you a lawyer because you have no idea what the agenda May or may not be so for. Someone's got nothing to hide hiring. A lawyer does does not seem unusual to me at all. I have no opinion it is to wear this woman stood in this situation but given all the scrutiny that she was under and all the interrogation she he had been subjected to and the allegations of her employer. If I'm getting ready to walk into an interrogation room or grand jury room you can bet I'm a lawyer up because I might just be going in there to become a patsy or hang myself without knowing it. It's easy for law enforcement mint or prosecutors. Were comfortable with the system to say hey you don't need that but for a layman someone that's not involved to get a guide guide to guide you through that process makes a lot of sense to me. Finally after remaining silent as a media wrote about on her daily Terry decided to take the stand publicly defend herself she spoke to the media proclaimed her innocence and in this interview she revealed a shocking confession what she had never mentioned before. She said that when she got out of her truck with carbon when she dropped him off at school she spotted another white truck parked near the school and a mysterious man sitting inside she claimed at the time she didn't think anything of it after all this was elementary school there's hundreds of cars dropping off kit today day in the morning so naturally she didn't consider this white truck suspicious until she revealed a frightening twist according to Terry the day before on June third that same fight truck truck a Ford F one fifty pulled up to seven eleven convenience store by highway thirty in the cashier inside saw the man driving the truck pacing frantically frantically back and forth outside the store the man then allegedly walked inside and asks the cashier. Where's the nearest school? The man replied skyline elementary apparently after the suspicious man hop back into his truck and drove away the cashier called the police but no one ever followed up with tip this according to Terry and I say according to Terry with a strong emphasis of doubt because this is what that story look like from the perspective of the Sheriff's Office why because they could find no record of any call made to nine one one from a seven eleven store that morning there is a seven eleven near Highway thirty but when detectives searched the surveillance surveillance footage there was no sign of a white truck parked outside and there was no one suspiciously walking back and forth so no call was made a no surveillance footage shows a truck or man pacing back and forth. It's also interesting that in Terry story the cashier never described to the police what this man look like cinches man ask about the nearest school in acidity the cashier had gotten look at him and where did Terry get all this information from. She said it was what she heard but she provided no details. No evidence to corroborate these claims who where did she hear it and what was the likelihood that Terry knew all all these details but didn't know the kind of details that would have actually helped the detectives demands height ethnicity choice of clothes any identifying characteristics it was a thin vague allegation that didn't help steer the investigation in any way vertically not away from her things remain stalled until during the hundreds of hours interviewing every staff member teacher and student skyline elementary one eyewitness did disclose something that changed everything during this interview which was later leaked to the Oregonian newspaper an unidentified witness claim that there was indeed a suspicious man on the premises of Skylon elementary on June fourth and he really was in a white truck but it wasn't the one terry claimed was loitering outside the school and a seven eleven and it was Terry's because the witness said this man was inside her vehicle Michael. That's right the witness says there was a suspicious man on the premises he was in a white a truck but it was Terry's truck that he was in but like every allegation raised against her terry brushed it off as another smear aided by the police in order to frame her for an alleged kidnapping or worse but police think they could be onto something they hold a press conference asking for Investigative Assistance Assistance to help their office track down someone seen in or around wight Ford F one fifty pick-up that happened to be near the school grounds on the day Kyron disappeared in his press conference prince he states witnesses have reported seeing another person near Terry's truck while it was parked in front of skyline elementary between eight fifteen and eight forty five am but but no other information on the description of this person was given so how exactly will people try to find this figure especially given at this as well over two who months after carbon went missing could demand that this witness claim to have seen actually have been Didi. That's what reporters speculated the police might be thinking when they didn't give any details about the quote person that may have been interior truck terry continued to claim that there was someone else that took iron would ask what she thinks happened to Kyron US exactly what she had to say. I think the somebody came in the school and took him one. The exonerating things that people don't aren't public not made aware of is before on June third when I was completely someplace else at the doctors at the gym there was a man and a white pick-up truck Ford and and it was parked at seven eleven on highway thirty which is near to school. He's acting very strangely and he was addressed by one of the employees there that came out and asked him when he's doing because even passing pacing back and forth in front of the seven eleven for about an hour and he was went over to find out what was going on and the guy. I'm not sure what the entire conversation was about but I do know from the fem these witnesses that this man asked the employees where the nearest school was and that employees Floyd told him skyline and this is the day before when the after all this happened the other `nother ploy that was working working there that day she had contacted the police and said Hey. There was a strange guy here. We've got a tape of it like to come. See it the cops over there. They view the tape and she asked him would you would you like the tape and they said No. We're good that ain't gonNA tape Tyrian. The sheriff's office seemed to be in a game of cat-and-mouse mouse at the beginning of this investigation bombshell reports would come out about terry she would deny them but give them just enough bones to point the investigation instigation into a different direction was terry taking the sheriff's office on a wild goose chase making them chase after a ghost or was there really someone on there that day lurking between the hallways of skylon elementary in order to allegedly kidnapped current by mid August twenty two two months after carbon mysteriously band east hormones family life was in a damn spiral and it was about to get it even worse over the next several months while search and rescue teams continued looking through the woods behind skyline and divers swimming in the waters off Salvi Island desert was prepping with her team of lawyers something that completely blindsided Terry something thing that would change the direction of carbons investigation plus detectives search for an alleged strange man lead to any credible suspsects six well. We're going to talk about all of this and more on the next episode of into thin air. The mysterious disappearance Europe's Carbon Warwick Dr Phil..

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

10:16 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"I'll pin you down and sit on you. I take it you're attracted to me okay. I didn't WanNa ravished you or anything Insert Evil Grin with Latex oops. Did I say that out out loud. If you didn't have your son tonight I would show what I think of you. I may have to clear it with the boss and then it goes on quote wrote. You're toast. Beware going to bed underwear tank top think about that do you WanNa pick and and she proceeds to send Michael a photo and claims that's the only one she has left. Terry sent these text messages to Michael Twenty six days after carbon went missing so while Kane and desharnais were worried sick about their child while hundreds of volunteers were scouting dangerous terrain in the Portland Mountains and while the state of Oregon was paying millions of dollars in order to refund those searches. This is what Terri was doing. This is the behavior she engaged in when no one was looking people do crazy things when they're grieving or in shock people handle stress in strange ways but this woman had stated very clearly that she regarded Kyran as her own child she said I don't look at this as someone else's child that I'm raising. I don't regard this as Stepchild vis effects me the same as if my own child my own flesh and blood had gone missing. I'm hurting as much as if this was my own child have been doing this for forty five years and I've seen people handle stress and worry in panicking a lot of different ways but I don't think I've ever seen a mother frantic to find her own child that got in to sexting sending sexual images flirting having provocative conversations with someone else while they were frantically looking for their child while they were a grieving the possible loss of their child self pleasure. Romantic relationships are though last thing someone has energy for when they're worrying about that kind of tragic loss so you have to ask yourself. What kind of mother figure is sending half naked photos to boyfriend when the boy that she supposedly considers her own child is somewhere out in the elements or possibly lying dead in a ditch now this of course does not prove that Terry had any involvement in Cairo's disappearance appearance but it does highlight a pattern of some one who didn't seem to have a typical response pattern didn't seem to have typical sensitivity to or a caring response to the absence of this child to the fact that this child had seemingly been abducted someone would do that just doesn't seem to care that it was looking more and more like this little boy was never coming home? One's mind tends to race and wonder what is he going through. What has he gone through? How could this have happened? What could I have have done to change this? I took him to school. It was my responsibility. I was trusted with this child. This was on my watch and he supposedly disappeared in the space of fifty feet inside a school building full of children teachers adults clearly the behavior savior was just out of character for someone that was truly empathetic and sympathetic for the loss of this child inconsistent with someone that had I love a child and would be heartbroken at their absence. The behavior was just simply out of character and didn't match what Terry had spent years trying to prove prove that she was a normal loving mother so what was tears reasoning for sending lewd messages to canes is old pal sending messages that were provocative and flirtatious while her stepson according to her her son and was just gone without a trace well according to her cain was unfaithful to her prior to Cairns disappearance and Terry was seeking comfort from Michael something she desperately needed especially during a time when everyone was pointing a finger at her basically calling her a murderer mm-hmm. This was in retaliation for something that he was doing that I found out about Wallace is happening and this particular person listen was actually his friend and sent to the House so this was a setup. I'm saying this person came to the house. He was Kane's friend. I did this deliberately because I was angry and getting back at him so you Turks and say I'll show Oh you what pleasure I had no interest in having this person in my life. This was something to screw with cane because I was angry with Kim because he was doing the exact same thing with somebody else. who was this someone else well? Kate never admitted due to an affair. No woman ever came forward. Kane claimed he had no idea -tary was having a revenge affair with his friend or that she was even angry at him for him. The morning car and Banney started out just like any other ordinary day but what does array found out about the affair and heard Terry's explanation that she had slept with Cain's friend out of revenge. She worried that there was something they had missed. Had Terry been hiding adding a secret rage against Kane had she been fuming inside bottled up with so much anger and resentment that she was looking for revenge and if so was it possible she could have taken that rage out on poor sweet little Kyron just to punish his father. I believe that he he was having an affair on Terry and I told Cain that when you are married to the devil and you give her a reason to be pissed off. All all of your sins are GonNa come back and here we are in the situation but Terry was convinced that she was just unluckiest woman in the world and that all all the dirt being dug up on her was just being put out there to the media to make her the scapegoat with No side of carbon. She claimed that Kane Desharnais the media as well as the rest of the country needed someone to blame in since she was the last one to see Kyran she was the perfect target and clearly clearly when you find out that she's seemingly having this cold and insensitive affair while the child is missing that just makes her look all the more evil but she says that it was just seeking comfort over mass psychological standpoint if you're engaged with someone seeking comfort comfort. There's a different tone to the exchanges then if you're engaged with someone having fun. There's the difference between flirtatious. Hey you know I'm gonNA come. Get with you in bed. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that versus a tone to the exchanges. It says says I'm really hurting here really in pain I need love and support. I have to say what little we do know about this. Affair seems like it was more flirtatious and fun loving than seeking comfort and support for pain by the summer of Twenty Tin Terry Hormones Public Image had fully transformed from grieving and worried stepmother to a highly suspect vengeful wife who seemed to have no conscience and no sense of right or wrong seemingly devoid of any moral compass whatsoever and the inconsistencies in her story were catching up to her because as if her strange behavior those inconsistencies now seemed like sinister lies as opposed to confused and grieving woman. Perhaps I miss remembering details I harry allegedly lied to the police and said that she and Cain had a big fight on the morning of the science fair well. This was a surprise to everyone. Including Cain who outright denied that they fought the night before the science fair. It was a normal warning for me up up at five o'clock to the gym back home. GET READY FOR WORK KISS goodbye go to the office then she allegedly lied about the moment she left Kyran site at the top of the stairs at skyline elementary lied about where she was positioned when she saw Kyron. I said that's not possible. You cannot see chirons this classroom if he was right next to the door teary has since changed her story about this claiming now that she was at standing on the stairs because she was already inside the hallway this however was not what she told investigators the day the boy disappeared if you are standing at the top of the stairs in in the hallway and you've unobstructed view to one in the hallway to the is like any in your house in a hallway in your house one in the hallway to the other. It is a straight shot. I I don't understand how you can not see. I'm not standing on the stairs. I'm in the hallway itself right where the dot is so what exactly happened between the moment. She took that infamous picture some of the child standing in front of his science.

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"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

11:49 min | 10 months ago

"kyron" Discussed on Analysis of Murder by Dr. Phil

"The suspicious and erratic behavior from his wife life well it just became impossible to ignore gone was stepmother who was crying all day and posting flyers on every corner what what Cain was seeing was a wife who was extremely defensive vague dismissive of the several red flags surrounding her and and since she did not want to confront them or admit any wrongdoing then for Kane. It only proved her guilt. He now fully believed that she he was involved in his son's disappearance. There was no other way rounded in his mind. That's what led to a big fight. On June. Twenty six fix by this time Cain was absolutely convinced that his partner for seven years committed a heinous an unthinkable unthinkable crime against his innocent and vulnerable son with this newfound belief in his mind Kaine Horman and legally filed for a restraining order against Terry under the rules of this restraining order. Terry was not allowed to come anywhere near him and their daughter you're and as it turned out he may have had good reason. Investigators were interviewing. Everyone involved involved with a hormone family and they had just gotten to Rodolpho Rudy Sanchez a landscaper hired by Terry that tinted their backyard and when investigators questioned rudy they got way more than they could have ever bargained for. Rudy didn't seem to have any clues about what happened to Kyron but he did make a shocking claim about Terry free and before I tell you what that is. I have to point out these claims have been one hundred percent unsubstantiated and have not been proven by any investigation or in any court what I'm about to tell you is simply the here site of a gentleman who worked there and new terry somewhat closely according to Rudy Terry approached him in January of twenty ten to offer him a job but he claimed it was not a landscaping job he claimed Terry offered him ten thousand dollars to murder her husband cane he claimed Harry provided him details of Kane's daily routine gene and suggested that rudy make the killing look like mugging. I need to repeat no investigator was able to prove Rudy's claims however these allegations were serious and it was the top story in the newspaper for their July fourth edition. The media was ruthless. Terry had no choice but to lawyer up and begin manning strong defense against the allegations. We're beginning to swirl around her. Did you have a personal relationship with this landscaper now. He wanted one though and I had he there was a comment about mothers day he'd come out to the house to do some yard work on mother's. Day according according to him he wanted to see me on mother's Day he was dressed differently in the Cologne on and then he comes up to me and he said well. I just really wanted to see you and he put his. I was holding my daughter here and he comes up to my left side and he puts his arms around me and give me a kiss by the ear wouldn't let go and I thought that outright on five acres in the middle of nowhere this guy's going to rape me here at your in front of my daughter husband about it now because he did not know that I had a landscaper that was coming out to the house to do yard work. He was very hard on James and myself about taking care of things he just assumed that his job is he said was to work and that minus take care of the House and home including the children and so he thought James was at the time he would have been about fifteen and it's it's. It's two acres of mobile mobile area. We're not talking like it's a yard. I mean it's it's it's big and I when the landscaper came out to do yard work. He came out five or call five different times to do significant work and when he did I gave James the credit for it okay so kane didn't know there was a yard man at all so you were lying to your husband. There was deception. You were lying into your husband. Yes then this landscaper starts hitting on you yes then. What am I going to say. I've already. I already created a lie. I'm trying to get the benefit to James. I'm not telling he's not paying for it. I'm paying for my own pocket for this landscaper to do yard work. You see how it begins gins. Have people begin to look at this because I'm on this why I'm giving you a chance to clear these things up because they say okay you're lying to the media about the status of your marriage win. It's in a down which fire on you said No. No everything's fine. It's all rumor rumer. Don't even think about it. Everything's fine when in fact you know that he's left with a baby that things are in serious trouble. You're lying to your husband about having a landscaper than the landscapers hit known you so now you can't saying because you've lied to him about him being there so there's a landscape you don't even know his here but what he's showing up with. Cologne on and and grabbing onto me while I'm holding the baby and I got to tell you about that so you lie about that so you lied about having him then you lie I by omission about him. Costing you out there and then you told the police as anybody that you can think of that my have a reason season to want to take hiring or hurt him in any way and you describe this landscaper but you describe him. There's a stranger right. You do say you need to consider this guy over here but you don't say he's a landscaper. That's been in my employees. Could you tell us that you told the police. I told him how many times dates that he'd been there that James had actually worked with him in tandem. They remove some branches together. There's was when chain sailed out to landscaper. I told the police every I said everything I all. I did not keep anything back. Did that makes a landscaper. Mad I finger at is at maybe why he made the story up because that's a pretty bizarre story to make up. Just it's like oh she over two thousand dollars to kill husband exactly around. I don't know why he said that other than he's the the cops the cops to the same thing to me as far and they did the same thing in my friend. Dede Spicer is that basically they say you tell us one here. If you don't tells one here we're GonNa make you. She hired a high powered criminal defense lawyer. Stephen House seeven was known to be one of the best and most expensive criminal defence lawyers in the state and had a strong reputation for preventing clients from getting serious jail time the breakdown of -Tarian Canes Mary each only further desert as belief that Terry had reason to harm her son. You say that the night before carbon went missing that things happen that you now now know about that. You've discovered that had you known about she would never have been allowed to leave the house with him. What did you find. What do you well as always terry? Put everything in writing which God lover has been a blessing for us and she put down in writing that hurricane were up until three in the morning fighting about their marital problems that she had told told him she was done with at all that she was moving back to Roseburg. They were getting a divorce she was done with it and it was gonna be Friday the day that Kyron went missing so big upheaval that night now that didn't in happened. It was a normal morning for me up at five o'clock to the gym back home. GET READY FOR WORK KISS goodbye go to the office but you're saying that that so you have seen personally read an email from her account to a friend of hers that says we're fighting till three. AM In the morning think filing Outta here gone and you're saying you did not fight to three in the morning did fight till two or one or twelve or eleven there was there was no big blow up that night now. Are you shocked to hear this that she's an email that that now she's written. Why does that not surprise you. Uh there's a lot of there's a lot of information where she's writing things down and we do the interviews with law enforcement and the actual activities don't match stat emails now you might think this woman has potentially lied about her whereabouts on the day. This child went missing. She is posting insensitive and baffling updates on facebook. She has a landscaper out here claiming. She tried to hire him as a hit man to take out her husband. Even her phone is peeing on a random out of the way island on the day her stepson banishes what could possibly be worse well. You won't believe what investigators discovered next that while little Kyron Horman was missing. She was focused on something else. Entirely a steamy affair. We'll tell you about that and about a mystery friend of Terry's who allegedly was nowhere to be found during the exact act hours. Terry was unaccounted for on the day. Kyron went missing less. We will hear from Terry yes. This all looks bad why she says she was targeted and smeared from the very beginning and I know I'm repeating myself but in fairness I wanNA say again. Terry has never been charged with any crime concerning the disappearance of Kyron horrible believe me when I say we have only scratched the surface of this child's disappearance. What's that and more is on the next episode of into thin air the mysterious disappearance carbon. I'm Dr Phil. Thanks for listening.

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"kyron" Discussed on Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

02:26 min | 1 year ago

"kyron" Discussed on Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

"Mercury. This week goes into Capra corn on January fourth at ten thirty nine pm, and he goes out of bounds this week. So he's going to be a little over the top in his communication. He's running from twenty two savage all the way up to two and a half of Capra corn and. He's trying to catch up to the sun. Right because he was retrograde a little while ago. So he has a aspect to Venus where he's trying to figure out some stuff, and that's going to happen tomorrow on that that's going to happen on the thirty first. So he has an aspect of innocent. He also right behind the aspect of his has an aspect to heiress. So the feminine energy can be a little cranky this week. And of course, money is ruled by Venus, so people are still not working due to the government shutdown. So again, I think we go right through the new year with that than mercury is a by quintile to Juno, which is some kind of partnering energy that happens on the second of January a new way of moving forward. And then mercury is aspect in the nodes Effat at seven o'clock at night on January second, which is important communications component connections. You wanna watch who you meet who you hang out with who you're invited to do things with. That's a pretty strong one. And then there's a wounding around communications on the third if you had a fight with someone this last week that may be an opportunity to resolve it because mercury's aspect in kyron if you had a fight with Mars was on Chiron mercury aspect it helps you get it solved. Then we also have mercury and really productive forward motion. Let's get everything rocking and rolling moving aspect on the fourth of January as you try and you're in this. And then he enters Capra corn green Capra corns eminently, practical Sagittarius, he's a little over the top you over promises the under delivers he's not always telling the truth. He tells the truth his version of the truth doesn't tell the real version necessarily, it's considered an its detriment mercury and said, but when it goes into Capra corn, he's eminently practical, he really communicates direct and straightforward way. And because he's out of bounds. And because he's answering to a very practical Saturn. You're gonna find communications gets. Serious than where people really want to be serious about stuff. And that's as of January fourth. He has quintile Neptune on the.

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"kyron" Discussed on Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

03:18 min | 1 year ago

"kyron" Discussed on Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

"Uh-huh. Hi, everybody. Welcome to an or at least weekly weather. My name is an early. I'm an astrologer. I'm back in New York at the bright red desk on a nice goal cold in. Let's overcast Sunday morning. This is December thirtieth. I apologize for last week's poor audio quality. I was down in Florida visiting my dad and my cell phone, and it doesn't there's Scott really bad reception in his condo side from not really being able to get on the internet with my iphone, even you know, I can turn on a pot hotspot, I think it's called and in and out in and out. So I know the quality was really bad. But I also was down there all week without another phone to record on because they don't have a phone in their condo anymore, and I just had my cellphone, so. Apologies to all of you who suffered through the bad recording last week. Also, just wanna do a little summary of what I said last week 'cause you you went through it now, and you kind of get to go. It was going to be contentious weak little difficult energy closing aspects where all crabby, and of course, Mars was approaching his conjunction with Chiron it which is wounding our soul yet again. So watching for the folks that really got shaken up a couple of weeks ago when kyron station, go direct and now as Mars comes along and punches him. We have a rewinding, and of course, Martha's in Pisces, which makes all of us feel a little bit less. Go go go except the the people with water Mars. They kinda like it 'cause it's familiar to them. But for the rest of us Marzan Pisces can feel very overwhelmed or adrift or unfunctional like it's hard to get a card to get it moving your floating and so between the crappy aspects and the Mars. Punching Chiron and just a lot of fighting. You know, a lot of argument fighting your 'table break-up energy, a lot of people broke up a hit a number of emails from clients not really answering them because I'm on vacation. But I read them couple people. I wrote back when they were really distressed, but. Yeah. Bad week and bad recording. And of course, Mars was trying in Mars and kyron we're training my Jupiter urine as an aspect of Neptune. So you got eaten up by the bad cellphone towers on his Ladele soul. So this week. We have a slightly better story with December thirtieth. We're going to be moving forward last week. We still are finishing up a bit. We're still working with that Mars Chiron energy that kind of feels like, you know, wrapping up now. And then we go forward, and it starts to separate from kyron. Once he gets two degrees off we stop feeling so wounded and this week Mars. Goes into areas on December thirty first to start a new two year cycle. So that's good. Because that gives us a whole bunch of who ha- will will. Let's go kind of energy, you know, we're all going to be feeling much more vital and much more in motion. As of that Marsh shifting on on New Year's Eve at nine nineteen PM Mars goes into areas. But this last week was kind of tough, and I do apologize for the poor audio..

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"kyron" Discussed on Channel 33

Channel 33

01:43 min | 1 year ago

"kyron" Discussed on Channel 33

"Also, make sure you take out the rest of the ringer podcast network for more pop culture conversation. David. Last night MSNBC broke out there. Breaking news kyron to announce that Chuck Todd was on the set. Would I wanna know is in two thousand eighteen what event would be so obscure that? It wouldn't constitute breaking news on a cable station. Wow. Wow. That was I mean, this is MSNBC God love them. I mean, I used to joke all the time that they would break out like the countdown clock for just like any old episode of of like, whatever like, you know, the Rachel Maddow show. And it was coming on. I guess breaking news breaking news. Chuck Todd arrives is at least like it is a statement of fact, I don't know what I mean at MSNBC the bar, the bars biz pretty low I would go with like, I mean, I would say like breaking news Steve Kornacki bots slacks, but I've actually seen them have that discussion on the air. So I'm not sure I'll tell you the bar was less. Steve Schmidt arriving onset was also breaking is. So that's do you think breaking news. We've got pastries at craft services would make it wouldn't make. I think I think the liberal joke to make your by the way as what what would be too small for NBC or any cable station to break breakout. The breaking news Chiron, the answer would be massive voter suppression would be. Oh, man. Well, breaking news. We're recording the press box on a Wednesday. Yeah. It's it's not breaking news that we're back in front of a Mike. This is the press box a part of the ringer podcast network..

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"kyron" Discussed on WCPT 820

WCPT 820

01:55 min | 1 year ago

"kyron" Discussed on WCPT 820

"Okay. Did you see avenue ATI went on Tucker Carlson? Kyron no, say creepy. I'm printing out for you right now. Porn wire was the Chiron when he was on the show. This was the biggest, oh, I'm doing a get out the vote thing with creepy. Porn lawyer. Yes. And do are you gonna call delicious? Michael Albany, pardon. You can call them not to his face. No, wait. I'll I'll give you information. When is it in two weeks into Monday? Oh, it's flipped. The fourteenth flip the fourteen the California because California man key to get in the house back. We got flip those fourteen. Yeah. Sorry. I'm looking at my calendar right now. I'm in the wrong. I'm in the wrong month. It's Monday September twenty four th at the Edison in downtown, Los Angeles, six o'clock, Pierre you go. There you go get it. I got a fleeting fourteen vote by mail. Come in like, I'm ready waiting at the mailbox thing in the mail yesterday that they're making changes to the vote by that. I got an Email avenue festival and one of the conditions of me coming on tonight. Was that you were not going to do what you do not only to guess, which is talk over them and interrupt them. So we'll just let me finish with my answer. Okay. Let me give you a fair interview. I just I actually don't have an interest in squabbling with you at all or name calling. I've done a lot of that. You know, but dot to my face. I could Mike. Men calling the Chiron is doing it for me. What can creep lawyer toying with twenty twenty? Oh, that's not too. To inflammatory. Oh my God. All right here, we go ask you. Let me ask you a question. Why isn't show, and then, you know, simple. Call Donald Trump. The creepy porn president. He's the one that had sex with a four month old son at hall case my client without a condom. But you don't want to. You don't want to.

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"kyron" Discussed on WSB-AM

WSB-AM

01:39 min | 2 years ago

"kyron" Discussed on WSB-AM

"Very Got it All right so let's get to this weird distant happened, during the I think it's weird because so you had all the people that are responsible for pushing back on the disinformation campaign. Is happening and as far as I, understand the the Trump doesn't like saying, it happened but over time he, has, said yeah they messed with, the elections but here's the problem I'm watching on CNN's morning and the thing at the bottom I got the. Sound down so the role of the bottom, cross, says well it wasn't crawling. Or scrolling it was just it wasn't. Moving there Whatever yeah. Can I get to my point kyron Said. Said Trump says calls the Russian, investigation. A, hoax after White House says it's real But that's. Not what he's saying I don't care, if? You like him or you don't like him Trump is saying collusion is a hoax right he's not saying that there's nothing, at all to this disinformation thing, and, earlier earlier in the day at? The White House they had all these people, saying yeah Russia's. Meddling who do we have this is Nielsen talk McCaw I hurston Nielsen here's her. Rate our adversaries have, shown they. Have the willingness and capability to. Interfere in our elections and then of course FBI director Chris Farrell jumped in there too, we are not, yet, seeing the, same kind of efforts to specifically. Target election infrastructure voter registration database Trust that guy but, we are. Seeing are the.

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"kyron" Discussed on Working Interferences Dental Podcast for Dentists

Working Interferences Dental Podcast for Dentists

01:41 min | 2 years ago

"kyron" Discussed on Working Interferences Dental Podcast for Dentists

"We that's a good one i like that i actually i really am somewhat interested in meteorological stuff li i enjoy seeing you know for instance the other day there were some waterspouts that came ashore in florida okay everyone has a camera on them at all times now you know there's a lot of cool weather you know videos and whatnot out there so i kind of enjoy seeing that sort of stuff and i i really liked this year in particular you know they always have there's a lot of chirons on the weather channel do you know what i mean by chirons i do not okay kyron is cnn is famous for chirons or headline news there's the screen with whatever showing on the screen and then there's all the stuff on the sides and at the bottom and all the scrolling things and i'm talking about yeah yeah those were chirons okay so the weather channel has just chirons out the wazoo chirons everywhere you know if you could be watching the weather channel on a seventy five inch tv in only about twenty four inches in the middle is going to be actually like where you're seeing stephanie abrams on your television the rest of it is just information you know widgets chirons okay and so on the right hand side of the screen they always have a chiron that's updating whatever winter storm is happening and winter terms are kind of like hurricanes they start with as and they go down okay with letters and like the most recent one whatever the name was was started with an x it was like warner stormings xavier something like that that's how many winter storms that we have had how many polar systems or arctic systems or whatever i've come through we made.

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