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Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Of killing two people and wounding a third during riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He was released from police custody on $2 million bail. On Friday. The 17 year old left the Kenosha County jail around 2 P.m. after his attorneys posted bond, which was funded by an online campaign. Rittenhouse has spent the past two months in custody on murder charges. He claims he fired his weapon in self defense. After hearing what he thought was a shot fired at him. 35 year old Josh is a Minsky has since admitted to firing that shot but only as a warning to writers closing in on his home from the
Illinois teen Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Illinois. Teenager is all smiles after being released from custody in neighbouring wisconsin where his accused of killing two people during summertime protests hours after being released a member of kyle written houses. Legal team posted a photo of him along with actor. Ricky schroder a seventeen year old. Kyle rittenhouse posted bond and was released from jail in kenosha wisconsin friday. He's accused of homicide. And the killing of joseph rosenbaum and anthony huber following protests of the police. Shooting of jacob blake this summer written. Nelson's attorney says he fired his gun. Though in self defense he was being followed and attacked by the men however those men did not appear to be armed. The mandarin houses accused of shooting and injuring did appear to be armed. Much of all of this was caught on video by witnesses and after the shooting rittenhouse told police pretty done but was not arrested in wisconsin and went back to his home in illinois where he was later. Taken into custody. Jessica rosenthal fox news
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Charged with killing two people during a protest in Kenosha has posted bail and then released from custody. Coloradan House posted a $2 million cash bond Prosecutors accused Rittenhouse and fatally shooting two people and wounding a third during that August protest. The Legal Defense Fund for Riton House has raised millions of dollars. This is CBS News.
Kyle Rittenhouse makes bail, released from Kenosha jail
"17 year old charged with getting down to Wisconsin protesters is now out of jail. Brian Shook has the very latest. Kyle Rittenhouse was released Friday after posting $2 million bail. He's accused of killing two men during the unrest in Kenosha back in August. He turned himself into police the next day and was extradited from his home in Illinois last month. Cell phone video showed him carrying an ar 15 style rifle as he walked down the street. He claims he was there to protect local businesses. I'm
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Also in Wisconsin 17 year old gunman Kyle written houses out on bail. Rittenhouse was arrested and charged with the murder of two people during protests. That erupted in Kenosha in August after police shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back. On Friday, Rittenhouse walked out of jail on a $2 million bond and was later seen in a photo on Twitter standing next to actor Ricky Schroder, who helped build them out. Bill. Money was also raised by my pillow
Kyle Rittenhouse released from jail after posting $2M bond
"Year old from Illinois, who's charged with killing two people during a protest in was constant. And his case has become a rallying cry for some right wingers in the US posted $2 million bail today and was released from custody. Kyle Rittenhouse is accused of fatally shooting Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and wounding gauge Gross hurts. During a demonstration August 25th that followed the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He busted bond through Jack Illinois, told police he was attacked while he was guarding a business and then he fired in self defense. He faces multiple charges, including intentional homicide, reckless endangerment and being a minor in possession of a firearm. Wisconsin law doesn't permit minors to carry or possess a gun unless they're hunting. He's due back in court on December 3rd for a preliminary hearing. This case has taken on political over towns. Supporters of the Black lives matter Movement of painted written house as a trigger happy white supremacist. Conservatives that portrayed him as the Patriot exercising his right to bear arms during unrest Legal Defense Fund for him is attracted millions of dollars in donations, and his mother got a standing ovation from women at a Lakisha County Republican function in September. Cuba's father, John Huber. Ask Kenosha County Circuit Court Commissioner Loran Keating during a hearing on November 2nd two set Britain houses bail between four and five and $10 million. Uber said Rittenhouse thinks he's above the law and noted the effort to raise money on his behalf. He also suggested militia groups would hide him from police if he were to be released.
Illinois teen charged in protest slayings posts $2M bail
"This seventeen year old gunman accused of killing two people during a racial injustice protest in Wisconsin has been released on two million dollars bail seventeen year old Kyle Rittenhouse is from Illinois he was shown on video tape with a rifle walking down a Kenosha Wisconsin street filled with protesters August twenty fifth after he shot and killed two men Rittenhouse told police it was self defense while he was guarding a business a court deemed him a flight risk but he walked out of jail after posting bail conservatives appraised Rittenhouse as a patriot exercising his right to bear arms during unrest and have raised millions of dollars for his legal defense supporters of the black lives matter movement describe Rittenhouse as a trigger happy white supremacist in Wisconsin he's not even allowed to carry a gun as a teen unless he's hunting I'm Jackie Quinn
Kyle Rittenhouse’s Mother Says Her Son Shouldn’t Have Been In Kenosha
"Houses. Mother says neither her son nor protestors should have been out on the Kenosha streets. That night. The violent protest Ng turned deadly in August. Britain houses the 17 year old charged with the deadly shooting of two men. Wendy written as his mother tells the the Chicago Chicago Tribune Tribune that that if if police police had had done done a a better better job job of of protecting protecting businesses businesses from from looters, looters, her her son son might might not not have have felt felt that that it it was was his his job. job. To To do do so. so. Governor Governor
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Other people he was a hero and i understand john huber's view of all of this and i'm sure there are many who agree with him and perhaps there are many who were there that night. Who agree with him that he was a hero that he was going after trying to stop someone that they saw as a threat but there were two words that he said that i found very interesting. Because it's it's a word that we've used a lot before or phrase active shooter and his son is the one in the second shooting. He's one of the victims shooting. Who has the skateboard who strikes kyle rittenhouse with the skateboard and then gets shot and killed at that moment. Does the video demonstrate that he's an active shooter at the moment that Mister uber son is going after him no but he hit already shot and killed somebody and was now running down the street from so from john huber standpoint. My son went to a protest because he feels something he goes. They're armed with. What is voice an escape or this kid shows up with an ar fifteen. He doesn't have a grill passion. He's that he's there for a fight so from john hewer standpoint. This kid wasn't active shooter and his son was a hero because his son solid happened and now sees this lunatic running down the streets within fifteen after already killing one person so is boy goes and tries to stop them and he ends up to. It's a very legitimate way to look at the exact same video that other people look at and say no. This is self defense as poor little seventeen year old was caught up in something. You couldn't handle any. He had to protect himself. If the one the one fact. I think though that may help the defense here is when they say he's running away. He's running directly towards the police line because there was a line where police were not going any further and there was a line of vehicles with the lights flashing which was very obvious to everyone and it. Was you know within a short distance of where the shooting takes place. And i think that's a direction is going so there's been a lot of discussion about a citizens arrest being made here. But he's he's running towards police and to me the complete picture. Neither side is giving the complete picture when they when they describe what they're seeing. You know what. I mean where one side avoids the that. He's going towards police. The other side kind of avoids the part that. Hey he had just shot someone. So it's a fascinating case. The police component really is is Fascinating too because before there's video of rittenhouse. Talking to police officers is social. Media said no. He's he's dedicated to khaliq. He's a seventeen year old. Who wants to be a cop or at least loves policing and so his mindset is yes. I'm gonna run to my allies. Well guess what he in his mindset when he shows up there with his. Ar fifteen in his seventeen year old brain. He thinks i'm a cop or the bad guys. I am a good. He deputized himself and he was reinforced. Who was reinforced by his mother. The bomb they're reinforced by the person that gave them the air. Fifteen reinforced by those police officers. Who gave him water at. Thank you for your service. That's the mindset that this kid had when he was put into a very volatile situation that he couldn't have right and the other part of it is looking at it from the other perspective is he had just shot someone in self defense and the one thing all the cases that we've covered in self defence. We always say well all right. You've just shot someone in self defense. Well what did you do next. You know did you. Did you just flee the scene or did you go and find police. Did you go to police. I think what the defense is gonna argue. He just shot someone. he's now in danger because there's a mob chasing him and he's going to. Police puts his arms up approaches the police vehicles to try to tell them what just happened and the police because of all the radio traffic of all the insanity that is taking place in the streets that kenosha wave this kid off a gada here. Just get away from us. We've got to deal with something down the road that just happened. And what did you do next. Though any he went home are any illinois. He went around and say. Hey by the way on the guy shop to people you may want to. You weigh wanna talk. He went home and turn himself in. He went home turned himself into local police. So i this is going to be a tough. One is going to be tough one but bail two million right do any indication that through all these donations and everything that he might be able to get himself read on the two million dollar bond a half million dollars right now on the latest website that is accepting donations. So he's got a long way to go. All right. ted. Rowlands court tv anchor on top of it as always thank you so much as i mentioned folks carl rittenhouse facing the potential of life without the possibility of parole the rest of his life behind bars but he's claiming not just that all i'm innocent. I am the victim here so the question is in a case like this where the evidence is like this. Is this a case where perhaps prosecutors should reach out and say. Hey here's a plea offer a potential deal that we will offer you. You admit your guilt to something less than what we have charged you with here. You do something less than life without the possibility of parole and we resolve this case without a trial. Well should prosecutors do that up next..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"All the demonstrations and riots and things that have happened this summer. Very few cases related to this have bubbled up to the top as as cases that people have been talking about are widely interested in. Because there's been a ton of criminal cases that have come out of these demonstrations and riots across our country. But there's really only two that are kind of on my radar in a big way. One is the case out of denver involving a guy who was working security for local news station. Who shot and killed a protester. And he's locked up by did not get bond in. We're following that one the other one. I think that's even higher profile is the one that involves a seventeen year old. His name is kyle rittenhouse. he's from illinois. And there's a protest demonstration and riots. Taking place close by to where he lives but in a completely different state in a completely different city in kenosha wisconsin. And for some reason. I don't know. I haven't spoken to her. We understand that his mom drives him. He's seventeen drives him to kenosha. And someone in wisconsin gives him an ar fifteen and then he is in the streets of kenosha seventeen years old. I mean that's young. And i don't care how much training you have. How mature you are you know. Seventeen year old being in the middle of all that. And then within fifteen. And i understand. He's probably trained. Been shooting guns for years. But he's seventeen years old. I mean i have a seventeen year old so but that's not what the case is about. What the cases about now is what happened afterwards. Once he was there there was some violence that broke out and he ended up shooting three people. Two of them died and now he's been charged with murder. He's been extradited back to kenosha wisconsin. And he's now got a face these charges as an adult and he's facing the potential of life without the possibility of parole and the and i mentioned to people are dead by the way so he was in court this week and We got us some interesting interesting insight. I think into the attitudes and the case in the issues. That are going to bubble up through this one as well. And i want to bring in court tv anchor. Ted rowlands who's been following this very closely. Ted is my assessment right or am. I missing something. Because in all the protests demonstrations and riots there have been tons of arrests and tons of crimes that have taken place but really to me. This is the one that seems to be on top of the rest and we really have been talking about many others in the reason is because the facts of the case are Are different rate in. Most of the arrested took blazer people that went to the protest and did something wrong and were arrested and move. It is what it is. This is different. Because you've got a two sides here and you've got two different stores in two ways to look at the exact same facts With the video we just take the video. You can look at the videotape. Oh explain the video explained the video to folks who maybe haven't seen it. I mean i think you've seen it and and check the show notes folks because you can get access to all this stuff but described video. What we see kyle. Rittenhouse has an ar fifteen in his hand. He's running down a street in kenosha. There's chaos around him and some people are basically chasing him down and this is the second shooting which is widely always is. There is shooting. But it's not clear and it just doesn't have the same opportunity to absorb. The situation is the second shooting and in this video. Rittenhouse is clearly attacked by two people. Turns around and shoots kills one of injures another one. The question is was this self defense. Many people say that's absolutely self defense others say no he didn't need to shoot the other armed people. He put himself in a situation that created his issue So that's where we are. That's why this case is so compelling like the thousands of other arrests that were made at protests around with that right throwing bricks attacking some wine or you know whatever it is now. I want you to take a listen to mark richards. This is the attorney for seventeen year. Old kyle rittenhouse there in court and this is a first appearance and it's also a bond hearing so they're trying to figure out okay. What's the bond going to be set at. How much money does he have to post to get out of jail. Let's listen mike. Sciences seventeen years old his no prior juvenile no other record whatsoever he has ties. The community is father lives mma community. He worked in the community to self defense claim in. This case is overwhelming. It's i'm videotape. And under all of those circumstances. Three quarters of a million dollars. 'electronic monitoring is more than sufficient. We have no objection to non monetary conditions but at a certain point the state can bury their head and sand and in reality. Who struck might client i. Who attacked my client. I mr rosenbaum deceit might clients running down towards the police line when he's attacked by a mob. We're not talking about demonstrators. were talking about rioters. Who had ill intention their arch and fortunately they came in second all right ted so that's mark richards and he's painting a picture very clearly. Been very aggressive the defense in this case and putting their version of what happened out out there in the public domain. And they're saying he's the one who's the victim absolutely that's part of their strategy from the fighting extradition on this has been out in front and center. They've received donations. A gofundme page was put up. Shut down they now have a new mechanism for donations and people are literally donating thousands of dollars for his defense. That's a strategy. The painting the picture of this being a wonderful person is accurate. I mean you know he was. He loved law enforcement is a lifeguard according to his family. The reason he was there was because a family friend own the business and was asking for volunteers. And he said oh. Let me go. Let me go and mom took him to kenosha to be there to help. Protect a business. That's all well and good but two people are dead because of this kid and that's the reason he's sitting in that courtroom in wisconsin and that's the reason why The judge said sorry. You're you're not walking. It was less than a million in. It's going to be two million dollars bail bonds. What's needed to get him out now. During this bond hearing one of the victim's father spoke. And and i found this you know. There's there's anger and there's heartbreak in it's mixed together. And i understand it. I'd never had to deal with the tragedy that he is dealing with. Which is the loss of a young son which is the worst thing that can happen to a parent. It is the worst and he was able to speak and you can actually hear his pain but he also paints a picture of the way he sees what happened to his son rittenhouse. They've he's above the law he's been treated as such by law enforcement and so he believes he's justified in this case in for for him to run Wouldn't wouldn't surprise me In this defense self defense that is impossible. That is impossible. I don't know what part of the video you watch. But he already killed a guy shot him in the head in an tried to run and my son was hero. He tried to stop him and so did everybody else. He was an active shooter and he tried to fleet and my son lost his life.
Bail For Kyle Rittenhouse, Accused Kenosha Shooter, Set At $2 Million
"Old Antioch native Kyle Riton house He's accused of fatally shooting two men and wounding a third during unrest in Kenosha back in August. Court is going to impose a $2 million cash on believing that is reasonable, necessary and sufficient at this juncture to secure the appearance of Mr Rittenhouse in Today's virtual court hearing came after a judge in Illinois ruled Friday to extradite Riton House to Kenosha. Search for at least one terror suspect continues in
Kyle Rittenhouse of Illinois, charged with killing 2 Kenosha protesters, extradited to Wisconsin
"Illinois teenager accused of killing two people during violent demonstrations in Kenosha, Wisconsin, has been extradited to Wisconsin to face the charges. Supporters of Kyle written how cm as a patriot who was exercising his right to bear arms during unrest. But others like in him to a domestic terrorist who incited protesters when he showed up from out of town with a rifle. The shootings happened in August following the police shooting of Jacob Blake
Kyle Rittenhouse, charged with killing 2 Kenosha protesters, extradited to Wisconsin
"Illinois who's charged with homicide in Wisconsin. Kyle Riton House is accused of fatally shooting two professors during the unrest in Kenosha after the shooting of Jacob Blake. Black lives matter Activists Clyde McLemore is nothing political about killing people There's never time to kill is never. He's a murderer about Rittenhouse. His attorneys say That's exactly the situation they call. The charge is politically motivated. Suspects in custody and what New Orleans
Illinois judge OKs extradition of 17-year-old accused in Kenosha shootings to face homicide charges in Wisconsin
"Illinois, accused of killing two demonstrators in Kenosha, Wisconsin, has been extradited to stand trial on homicide charges. It came after a judge rejected Kyle Rittenhouse is bid to remain in Illinois Lake County State's attorney Michael Nerheim, and their challenge was that the charging documents on their face We're not proper. We argue that they were in the judge agree. Walmart
Illinois teen Kyle Rittenhouse will face homicide charges in Wisconsin after judge OKs extradition
"An Illinois judge made a decision today on whether or not to extradite in Antioch teen facing homicide charges in Wisconsin. A Lake County judge has ordered the extradition of 17 year old Kyle Riton House to face homicide charges in Kenosha County, Wisconsin. Defense lawyers sought to convince the judge to block their clients transfer Britain houses. Attorneys argue that the team acted in self defense when he opened fire during unrest following the shooting of a black man by a white Kenosha police officer. Lake County prosecutors said it should be up to a Wisconsin judge, not one in Illinois to decide whether there are sufficient grounds for charges more lap. BA WDTN news.
Illinois Judge Approves Extradition Of Kyle Rittenhouse To Wisconsin
"Extradition for 17 year old charged in neighboring Wisconsin for shootings that killed two people in Kenosha during protests there. In a written decision, the judge approved the transfer of Kyle Riton house from Illinois to Wisconsin, where he is charged in the shooting deaths of two protesters during demonstrations in Kenosha over the shooting of Jacob Blake. The Kenosha County Sheriff's Office plan to pick up Riton House within the next week. Unless there's an appeal. The defense fought extradition, arguing there were flaws in the paperwork. ABC is Aaron Carter Ski reporting. You're listening. To ABC News. Arizona's
Illinois judge OKs extradition of Rittenhouse to Wisconsin
"The teenager who is accused of killing two demonstrators in Kenosha Wisconsin in August will be extradited to that state from Illinois defense lawyers for seventeen year old Kyle Rittenhouse tried but did not persuade an Illinois judge to deny an extradition request to face homicide charges written house who was videotaped walking down a commotion street with the rifle is accused of fatally shooting two men who were protesting the police shooting of Jacob Blake who is paralyzed in August some political groups are rallying around Rittenhouse calling him a patriot exercising his right to bear arms during unrest the teen appeared calm in court hi Jackie Quinn
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Photo court TV live over the air uninterrupted. If you're watching television with an antenna, just rescan your channels now to add court TV and go to court TV dot com to see the exact position and more ways to watch court TV in your area. So there is one more reason why the prosecution cowl Rittenhouse is going to be difficult and we've sort of dancing around it here throughout this podcast, and that is the politics of this case. Okay. The politics of the case and the way it is broken down where you've got one presidential candidate looking at it one way or another one looking at it a different way and the people who support those those different candidates looking at it differently, and that's a problem for prosecutors and let me tell you why. Because if if that's the perspective and that's the way people see it. That's a split. Okay, and that's a split. I know basically down the middle of our nation and basically down the middle of Wisconsin. Okay. So you're GONNA have a jury of twelve. and. Arguably, half the people will see it one way half the people will see it another way. Based upon their politics now, I know there's a jury selection process there's deer. But the problem is. You can't kick everyone off the jury right at some point you're going to end up with some jurors who kind of see it one way and some jurors who kind of see it another way and the reason it's a problem for prosecutors and not the defense is that prosecutors are the ones who have to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt to all twelve jurors. The only way you get a conviction is by convincing all twelve of the jurors. Anytime a jury comes back and it's Eleven to one, ten to two, nine, two, three, that's a win for the defense. It's a win for the defense because defended has not been convicted of the crime. So this is just another reason why it's so tough to be a prosecutor. The only way you win the case is by convincing twelve, the defense can win the case by convincing one. Just one. And in a case like this, that is breaking down on on political leanings. Think about it, and even if you get Jersey I can be fair and impartial based on on on the facts of the case it's the way you see the world. It's not going to be lost on this jury that there was a protest in Kenosha and the protesters were anti police and the protesters amazing engaged in some rioting and the protesters may have destroyed some businesses and the protesters were supporting Jacob Blake and then you've got it's not going to be lost on the jury that Kyle Rittenhouse supports police that Kyle Rittenhouse said he was going there to protect businesses the cow rittenhouse believes in the second amendment. And that's all politics. All of that is the politics of the way we're seeing the situation in the world right now. and. If you end up with just one juror. Who was leaning one way? Who sees the case through that through that filter? You can't get a conviction. nope. nope. No Self Defense Second Amendment, they'll come on. Can't do it. That's why it's such a challenge here. That's why I think it's a hard case, a difficult case, and maybe as Monica was saying, maybe this ends up somewhere else other than first degree murder. And when you have jurors that can agree one of two things can happen. One is you get a hung jury and you come back you got to do the trial again the other thing that can happen is that jurors can go back and forth and negotiate amongst themselves, and if sometimes there are lesser included charges so you have not guilty on one end. You have first degree murder on the other end but in the middle you've got you know reckless homicide, which is it's not murder it's not intentional, but it's it's something that is not not guilty, but it's something much less than intentional. Killing of another human being this premeditated this. This I intended I wanted to take a life I wanted to take. That's why I was there. That was my my mindset versus maybe I shouldn't have brought a gun. Maybe I was being a little careless maybe I was being a little reckless and it happened right. So that's why for prosecutors say it's a challenge always talked about what they're charging what they really believe it is. And prosecutors should only charge what they really believe happened here. You don't. You never bring charges that you don't believe you can prove that you personally do not believe in. Okay. So prosecutors in Wisconsin believe they can prove first degree murder and they believe this is first degree murder. So when I say this is a tough case that's what I'm talking about now could something Happen here perhaps, but the challenge here in a case that is turned. So political in a country that is so divided in a state like Wisconsin that is so divided. And remember if this case ends up in Wisconsin which I think it will at some point, it may not be heard in Kenosha it may be heard somewhere else. And think about. The whole jury process here in selecting this jury and going through their social media posts and what did they say about this? What did they say about that and you know who? who were they? Who are they leaning for for President? Who are they? What are they posting politically the attorneys on both sides you're going to be all in that. And at the end of the day, you can't get people. People will not be kicked off the jury merely because they voted one way or another. Or they see the world one way or another. The only way they get bounced by the judge is if they can't be fair and impartial if they can't put aside any preconceived opinions that they have about the evidence or the case, put them aside and base their verdict solely on the evidence presented in the courtroom. So this is a challenge above challenge I'm not saying it can't be done but it's GonNa take a really good prosecutor. It's GonNa take some incredible arguments. It's GonNa take. Some amazing examination of witnesses and cross examination of witnesses and you're going against the defense team that as we've been saying is. Aggressive. To say the least, they are not going to give an inch they're going to press press press. So we shall see again this is a case we will continue to track continue to cover on court TV, which is always folks your front row seat to justice it's not just a podcast is a website court TV dot com where we'll have lots of articles about. Postings about this story and other stories check the show notes we have incredible links there as well, and of course, you can watch court TV each and every day if you have a digital antenna and you don't have court TV on it, if you can't find it rescan that digital antenna and chances are are signal will be there for you. 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"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Wrong situation. This is a gun toting police loving young man that is looking for trouble because he wanted to be strong and show that he had power and he found trouble and he found trouble in a big way. So I, think when the prosecutors starts with that story and then they have the video. It's not going to be as difficult as you think. Well here here's the problem though let's start with. There's three shootings. There's three victims right I one Joseph Rosenbaum, he's thirty six years old first of all, and there's video of him from that entire night antagonizing people. So the defense is going to be able to show this jury exact exactly who Joseph Rosenbaum is and the attitude that he was displaying before he got shot and then they have to concede that it was Rosenbaum and others who were trying to take the. Gun Away from Kyle Rittenhouse, they had him cornered then there's a gunshot take that is fired behind Kyle rittenhouse before he ever fires his gun. So he hears gunshots which he recognizes then he turns and you've got this group of people including Rosenbaum who are trying to wrestle the gun away from him. They've already threatened him and now they're trying to take his weapon. So now you've got a case where you as the prosecutor have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that. There was going to kill these people I wanNA murder them or am I concerned that someone just fired a gun behind me and now these people are coming after me after threatening me trying to take my gun from me. Once you tried to take someone's gun that gun owner or that gun possessor? I. Believe has a good argument for self defense to use that gun. Yes. Sure. Typically that would be a good argument and there's no doubt that the victim in this case or not you know the altar boys right? They were there. At the protests that they were voicing their opinion they were you know going after him. So to speak you can't get rid of those bad tax in a good prosecutor will be able to know I can't get rid of these bad facts. You don't have to like the victim. You don't have to liked the victim did but he did not deserve to be shot and they did not deserve to be killed. Okay. Now the prosecutor is going to focus on it doesn't matter if they antagonize him what matters is he showed up he. His home, he went to another state to come to a place that's already in turmoil with a big gun with the intent to cause a problem to patrol to protect play cup to play vigilante. Right just like George Zimmerman used to back in the day. Right he did this on purpose. So it doesn't necessarily matter what the victims were doing right now the victims are trying to take the gun away from him. Well. Heck. Yeah. Wouldn't you got the seventeen year old waving a gun and acting like you taught stuff I would want to try to protect myself and get the gun away from him too. So now that being said, I think, I agree intentional homicide is tough tough. I don't think he went there like you said with a plan for murder but the reckless homicide I think a no brainer because the way he taking a gun to protest like. There's no doubt he records. He was running. He was acting like he was a big guy on campus. Yeah. No problem with the reckless comments I I have to give it to you vinnie little tougher. Okay. So now let's get to the next victim because you're saying he's acting like the big man on campus he's running literally running away from a mob that is chasing him and there's video. Clips right to be the big man on campus. Okay. After the first shooting now he is is he tries to render aid. But he's then surrounded by more people, he's in fear of his own safety. So he is now retreating and running away and literally running from a mob as he's running down the street away from a mob he gets smacked in the head by one person then trips and falls on the as the mob is descending upon in the head. The head, his his hat flew off. How do you know it was actually smacked in the head while I will let let the jury decide is they look video that I saw I don't know which one you were watching. The one I was watching had then he calls in the street and this is crystal clear as he falls. Now, the mob is descending upon him and they second victim Anthony Brewer. Smacks him in the head with his skateboard and then goes for his gun. Maximum head with escape boarding goes for his gun. Again, you're going to try to after you've assaulted someone. Now you're trying to wrestle his gun away. I I don't see how it's not a reasonable argument to say self defense there, and again, the defense doesn't have to prove self-defense. It just has to be a reasonable alternative. It's the prosecution has to prove that it wasn't self defense, and that's where I see the real challenge is especially with victim number two here. I agree with you that there is definitely a challenge there but I think it's a challenge that the prosecutor to get over if the prosecutor is very careful about the jurors they get on that jury and does a great job setting up the theme and the theory of the case that here was a person that was trained act tougher than what he was taking a gun to a fight knowing full well that he was being reckless. And he intended to cause problems during his mind protect people. But again, he's not a police officer. So if you get the right people in on the jury Benny I think they're going to look at that whole skateboard incident and this guy the victim trying to take the gun and say you know what the defendant got what he deserved, and he did not have the right to turn around and do the entire sequence of what happened. All right. You talked about bringing a gun victim number three has a gun and brandishes a gun and points the gun at him. So, if someone is pointing a gun at you, I, think you're allowed to use your gun on them and this that. Aggressor. argued. Kidder is going to argue that it was written house that was the aggressor. He's the one that brought the big gun gun to the fight from a hallway. Here's. The size they're not conceding that he brought the gun from Illinois. Japan. So whether Wisconsin not right. Content. Another state. The third victim goes towards Rittenhouse. Okay. He he lunges towards Rittenhouse and brandishes the Weapon I. I, think that's another tough one. Now, this victim thankfully survived. So he's going to testify about it, but that means he's got to be cross examined. Why did you have the gun? What were you reaching I? Why are we reaching for his gun? Why are you going to have to? Why are you chasing him I mean More. You've got this victim now being able to use self defense because here's this that seventeen year old right. This young man that came from another state and had a gun somehow miraculously not from his state from somebody else I feel like he was the cop brandishing it using the big word that you have there the big law enforcement word you know showing it around, and now with this guy did victim but has the right to show the gun and to say, Hey, knock it off right and then he ends up getting shot I don't know of any I think I it's a tough case but I think the prosecutor has enough as long as they get the right juror jury in those. Ha. Monica Lindstrom. Great to have you here but you mentioned the jury. We're going to talk about that in just a second, but I want to thank you for coming on the program I. Think we can agree that the murder charges. So this means I win folks the murder charges we're going to be very difficult. Correct Then you're going to see very. Well you gotTA. Let me speak. Yes I'd say reckless and I'll say sometimes I have to let you win some battles so that I.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Was he's talking about Biden right. He was talking about Biden, but president trump has weighed in on this case as well. In indicated the league he's understanding that this was a case of self-defense possibly. So you have the top people in the country weighing in on this seventeen year olds case it has drawn a lot of political response but if you think about it, one of the reasons he was there. In. Kenosha the outrage over the shooting death of rather shooting injury of Jacob Blake that was something that was already drawing political heat in the could probably say one of the reasons he does even over there was because of some of that drama that has come around that shooting and why he wanted to be there on the ground in Kenosha. So it's unavoidable in this case. Absolutely chaotic scene by the way and and there's there's so many videos. Do we have any idea if there are videos that have not been made public, that may be part of the evidence. In this case, have you heard anything along those lines because I'm wondering I? Mean you look at these protests everyone's got video camera out everyone. Some people Poe, some people livestream, but I'm wondering if there's anyone out there like maybe a journalist who wasn't livestream at the time who maybe. Has Video and somehow some way we're going up seeing that and we'll get a clear picture of everything that happened. It's interesting. You say that because there's something in the criminal complaint that I'm wondering if it's in a video, we've already seen I haven't noticed it but it says that during the shooting of the alleged first victim Rosenbaum right? Um where he is on the ground but before all of the shots that as someone trying or From the beginning of the shots, someone is trying to render aid and that the defendant cowering house appears to get a phone call or make a call on his cell phone than another male approaches the defendant turns to run away and then he can be heard saying on the phone I. Is that in a video that you've seen any I, haven't noticed I haven't seen that one yet. And there's so many of them and. Everyone's got a camera, it completely changed our criminal justice system. But in this case, in particular, it's going to be interesting to see the way each side Marshall's those videos puts them together to try to tell their story and the final part of it is I know if Rittenhouse has to testify if there's videos of everything usually in a self defense case, right you've got to get up on the stand tell your story I don't know if he has to tell his story. If they show those videos and even show his state of mind the interview that he did before the shootings when it was still daytime, there was a reporter asked him why he was there and he gave his reasoning. So yet is medical pack on his hip and saying that he was there to render aid was there to protect buildings and I think. The defense could easily put that up as evidence and say, this is this was his reason for being here. This was his state of mind at the time. He didn't go there to kill anyone. Wow. What a case we're continuing to track it here court TV. Obviously Julie Gianni Court TV Crime and Justice reporter on top of it. Thank you so much Julia. All right. When we come back, I want to take a look at this case from the perspective of being a prosecutor because that's what I am and I'll be honest with you i. look at the facts. I, look at the video and I just think it's a tough case. So I've got to bring someone who can try to. Convince me that it's not a tough case. Monica Lindstrom will join us when we return. All New true crime series. These are the true stories behind the trials. Renowned journalist Actually Benfield takes you behind the scenes of the most compelling cases in history we focus on the detail we focus on new evidence and investigates the murders lies and alibis that led to justice in the courtroom. This is the new chapter in true crime judgment with Ashleigh Banfield. All new episodes. Sunday. Night at eight on court TV. So I'm a former prosecutor and it's not an easy job being a prosecutor because you have the burden of proof beyond any reasonable doubt in every single case in every element of every crime that you charge. Now taking a look at the charges of murder against Kyle Rittenhouse I look at this and I say, wow, I don't think I'd want to be the prosecutor on this one this. Is a tough one this is a very tough one. This is a difficult one. I don't know if prosecutors can get it done again, they've gotta prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So joining US lazy gentleman, Monica Lindstrom, former prosecutor, great defense attorney mediation expert a judge on the bench. She's a radio host. She does everything and she's a mom you could be on the Supreme Court Monica. No thank you although I would let me ask you have. How many children? Seven. Okay you don't have enough children. For you it's been too easy. Okay I'll tell you it's not easy is prosecuting this case against Kyle right now first of all, he's seventeen years old than it'd be a seventeen eighteen year old inside the courtroom. Okay. So I think that's one obstacle. The prosecutors have a second obstacle is this is going to be a self defense case his attorneys come out and said that already okay may have to testify for that self defense. He may not have to testify for the self defense the reason being all the videos and eye witnesses to all everything that happened here. So I don't know if there's going to be an opportunity to cross examine him, and even if there is that is a fine line to walk as a grown man or grown woman cross examining seventeen slash. Maybe he's eighteen at the time of the trial. I don't know I. think that's another challenge here. But the real part of it is the self defense aspect as you look at the videos and you take a look at the facts of this case. So how would you like to do this? Monica because you believe you can prosecute this case and it's not as difficult as I'm saying it is. So, I'll go ahead and start here I'll your list. and. It is I will tell you is the difficult case. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you about that it is difficult but this is where you have good smart attorneys. Step in this prosecutor hopefully is really intelligent because there is the line that you have to walk like you said that he has to or the prosecutor has to really kind of balance the the baby-faced looked at the seventeen year old. But. Also show the jury that he knew exactly what he was doing. He went looking for trouble and he found it and it's not going to be hard to show that it looks for the fact that he's seventeen years old. Okay. Because when he stands there, if you're not looking at his face, the video clearly shows that he looks like he knows what he's doing. He stands there he's got his. Gloves on he's got the long the long rifle on him he is like ready to go, right? Yeah. He's got his medical kit whatever but he is standing there. He knows how to hold the gun. He knows that someone asked him to turn around and protect their building and let's not forget that he intentionally went to this area knowing that it had problem. Okay. So all of that is what? The prosecutor can start with and say, no, this isn't a little boy that got caught in the.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Podcast. Thanks so much for downloading and listening on Vinnie politician former prosecutor with you. Also, the host on court TV's show every night from eight to eleven on television. So we've been covering a lot of these stories throughout the entire summer, and one of those stories we've been covering is out of Wisconsin and it started with a police shooting of a man named Jacob Blake and you. May recall this video that was taken by a citizen Jacob Blake kind of rounding his car or not his car, his fiancee's scar rounding or his girlfriend's car or is ex girlfriend's car or victim of his alleged crimes car it's not clear folks. It's not clear a lot in that case is not clear anyhow as he's walking around that vehicle and trying to get in, he gets by police he does not die. He survives and he's been charged with the crime in the investigation into the shooting of Jacob play us. So we're waiting to get some results there on whether or not anything will happen to the officers for shooting Jacob Blake. But in the in the aftermath of that, there were a lot of protests in Kenosha. Wisconsin, and these protests got very dicey, very violent and at the end of the day. Two people died and seventeen year old has been charged with their murder seventeen year olds. Name is Kyle, Rittenhouse. He was not even from Kenosha wasn't even from Wisconsin he's from Illinois, and after the shooting that night in the street, you may have seen the videos of it. He was not arrested that night and Went Back Home Illinois where he turned himself in well now is in Illinois and the folks Wisconsin obviously want him extradited hasn't been extradited yet, and there's a lot happening in this case and court TV crime injustice reporter Gina has been on top of it and covering it for us. Juliette. Thank you so much for joining us. Glad to be. Here. Okay let's start with a Kyle Rittenhouse. He charged in Wisconsin and the charges in Wisconsin are murder and they want to charge him as an adult correct he seventeen but they want to charge him as an adult right first degree, intentional homicide, two counts of that. But also he injured someone in that shooting and he had a dangerous weapon under the age of eighteen, which is against the law and Wisconsin. All right. So he's facing those charges, but he's in Illinois. So what's his status right now? Where is he and is he locked up busy in adult jail juvie jail? What's going on? Right now, he is in Juvie jail as called June out attention. He is behind bars. He had been ever since he turned himself in day after that video everything that we've seen the shooting how it happened held unfolded there different angles. He then went home past police. Arrested and he went back thirty miles across state lines to Antioch Illinois and the next morning after he went home with the sleep, got up the next morning turned himself in and has been in detention center ever since he is they're being held as a juvenile. So ex can't even find is information on the online docket because it is sealed. Right, juvenile records it's like family court everything sealed. It's not it's not open. Like many of the records are so this. So now there's a hearing, right? So. Wisconsin wants him Illinois wants to send them there, but his attorneys are finding it I want to play. What John Pierce one of his attorneys said in the in the last hearing that had in this case, this again is the attorney for the seventeen year old Kyle rittenhouse clear your honor. It's no secret that this is a very unique extrordinary situation they're massive amount video evidence that shows that there's a shadow of a doubt that this is not legitimate. Criminal Prosecution is a political prosecution. There are serious issues with the extradition paperwork that in fact, bolster the suggestion that this is a political prosecution. These papers were were sent directly to the governor without us even getting a chance to look at them in the first instance without any notice. Is, no reason to rush there there is danger to this to this detainee there there is a presidential candidate in the heat of arguably the most heated election perhaps ever certainly since eighteen sixty s inflame the situation and recently asked that that that this detainees due process rights be observed. So we can challenge this in a proper way and ensure that this is illegitimate criminal prosecution and not something else all right Julia. What did what is John Pierce and Kyle Rittenhouse is defense. What do they want to happen here? What are they? What do they want the court to do? They want the court first of all to rule on writ of Habeas Corpus that they have filed challenging his arrest. The fact that he's behind bars, the fact that he's a minor they say also plays a role in this and he's got really savvy legal team. They brought up two separate issues that they have with this arrest I. They say the extradition paperwork that was used to try and get him from Illinois back to Wisconsin. Is Missing a signature and it doesn't meet statutory requirements without that signature and they. Say It involves some false statements that were obtained in order to get not only the arrest warrant, but the extradition documents say it fails on that and also they say that Illinois shouldn't be able to be compelled to send a minor over state lines when his constitutional rights are being violated vis-a-vis. This warranted they say is an improper and say Illinois would be an asylum state so that right now is. Still, in a holding pattern, he's not out of Illinois yet and it's been almost two months since the shooting happened it's fascinating because in most of the cases we cover Julia even even overseas sometimes, it becomes very easy to extradite someone within the United States all the states have an. Inter interstate agreement that they'll send detainees they'll send inmates back and forth, and it's and it's almost like a pro. Pro Forma kind of thing you just go into court and it happens most of the time they wave it but they're going to fight I. think they're going to fight every bit of this case. Don't you get that feeling from this defense team that every issue will be fully litigated that every they're not gonNA leave anything unturned they are not going to concede one inch in this. In anything tells us that extend video that they have already put out. We're in TV and it takes us some time to put together a really good piece and they put out a video for our listeners. You are not familiar with it. Produced video that walks you play by play through what their defense is going to be. The self defense that they are claiming is attributable to their client. They show you the angles and then they had these corruptions on the screen with all of these definitions of what's going on in why it absolves. Kyle. Rittenhouse why he's a true American why he's a Patriot why you should support him and they say this is actually even going to help with him in his fundraising and his legal. Defense Fund so. Defense team that is on it like that is already an indication that they are going to fight tooth and nail when it comes to this case. Absolutely. It's turning this case when you look at the reaction on social media and other places. Is Very political and it seems like people are taking sides depending upon their politics rather than looking at the straight up facts and the law in the case Pierce even mentioned it, and that statement he's saying one of the candidates had weighed in on it. He was talking about.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on KQED Radio
"17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. The shooter did not R S v P to the militia events Paige users complained about and we don't know if he was inspired by its called to arms. What we do know is that written house was seen with other militia members earlier that night. And then, after cholera in house allegedly killed people, The page was actually a place where people went and celebrated it, And even then, some of the Facebook users were reporting it to Facebook. But Facebook still, you know, didn't remove the Kenosha Guard page. The event page disappeared The next day At first Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg suggested that his company had removed it. In fact, it never removed the event page with all these violent comments. It was the creator of the event page from the Kenosha Guard itself, who removed before Facebook got around to it. I want to share about our investigation. Zuckerberg spoke directly to his employees about the incident. You know, the first thing is we designated. The shooting is a mass murder and on removed The shooter's page on his accounts from from Facebook Instagram this point we haven't yet found any evidence that the shooter Um, was following this commotion regarding page or was connected to the event are invited to the event in any way. There are a lot of people who feel that, you know, even if Kyle Rittenhouse, the alleged shooter didn't necessarily our C P to that event, it's that kind of discussion. It's that kind of using the platform to bring people together to take that kind of action that led to the events that night. Facebook is far from the only big tech company whose platform is used to spread misinformation,.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"One of the attorneys on came not Lin Wood, Different attorney put out a statement, so because so let me get this right because of one of his attorneys who's getting paid A lot of money puts out a statement. You must believe it to be true. Did you believe Bill Clinton's attorneys when they said Bill Clinton has never raped a woman before and never sexually assaulted a woman? Sorry. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I'm not done yet. Did you believe O. J. Simpson's attorneys when Robert Shapiro and Johnnie Cochran said that O J was never on the scene of the crime? I'm asking you a question now. Kellyanne when O. J. Simpson said he was not guilty, and all of his attorney said that he was never on the scene of the crime, and he had nothing to do with it. Were you calling in to radio shows defending O. J. Simpson? No, because I looked what makes sense. Okay, well, you're not making any sense because you're just believing Call. Rittenhouse is attorney So I'll ask you one more time. Do our attorneys always telling the truth So because Kyle Rittenhouse is attorney says that the mother dropped him off early in the afternoon. With no gun. You're saying that's fact. And I'm wrong. I don't not only his attorney unless I'm from Minnesota. And my girls. Hey, Brian, let her finish man riddled with newspaper articles calling whatnot and all his friends are saying all his friends are gone. So let me get this, right. Okay, So let me get this straight. I'm not telling the truth. And I'm factually inaccurate because you're listening to Coloradan houses, one of his attorneys and a few of his friends. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Grand and Michelle Malcolm Invite the mud her. You got it. You got to look at the whole picture Brown. No, I'm looking at the whole picture. And all you're giving me is what Kyle Rittenhouse is, attorney might have said on Fox News. That's all you're giving me. I'm looking at. You know what I'm looking at? I'm looking at the D A. I'm looking at the charges that were filed. I'm looking at all the evidence and everything that has been descriptive and you're no excuse me, child on mother. And why did you say did I say did I say there were charges followed on the mother? I never said that did not. Listen, Kellyanne just back green with Gillian. And that is Charlie out on alien. Yes, That's what we called Sayama talk show host and I have opinions. Yes, I believe the mother should be charged. Absolutely. Now let me go a step. Let me go. Let me go! Let me go a step further. Okay, let me go a step further here all you're doing. Killian is saying I'm not being factually acted because I'm going by What the D A said. And what? The charges that have been filed. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I She's not gonna let me talk. Alright. That's fine, Kellyanne. If you want to listen to see here's Here's what we're talking about here. We're talking about attorneys, right? And I brought up the OJ Simpson case for a reason. I guarantee you that Kellyanne thought that O. J. Simpson was guilty on Double Burger chart. She basically just said that, but O. J. Simpson's attorneys and I bring it up this case. I think it's important was a very divisive case because you're treading on your argument. If I could please you are incorrect. Okay, fine. You the attorneys? Can I finish my mission here is do you want to interrupt me again? I'll give you a chance to respond. If I could just please let me finish my thought. The reason why bring up O. J. Simpson is because OJ's attorneys still to today say that O J is innocent. And he was not on the scene of the crime. Does that mean we should believe every attorney that's defending their client? The answer is obviously. No. I don't believe any attorneys in this case. You know what I believe? I believe The evidence and let's wait and see what the trial is about to be charged with. Was he charged with transporting illegal gun across state lines? He was charged with the answer's No. Okay. Can I ask why he can't get an answer? And can I answer you? Because he got the gun? Can I answer? You got the gun from a friend in Wisconsin. Okay, Here's what? I'm not bring the gun from Illinois to whisker. Let's just say you're right. I am right. Let's just say you're right that I finish my statement the sentence If I may, he's charged with first degree murder of two people. Okay, thank Yu 257536. Let's go to Steve. Steve is next on the Vegas take on from Illinois to was what's up, man? What's on your mind? What's up? Steve ran a lot of color. She said that he went over there. Help clean up. What did he use his guns and his clips. Now there's pictures of him actually cleaning up high school with her video. Really? Yeah, there is. All I thought was a coward running down the street going gun didn't look. There was one guy chasing number. He knew he would get tasty. If his Steve Here's what JD is referring to JD is referring to a video that surfaced in the days earlier where he was cleaning off. Graffiti it just no, it was. It was earlier that day. Okay, Well, that's not according to what I saw. But even if that is the case last I checked. I didn't I I saw him with assault weapon that night, right, Steve? Yep, That's exactly right. That's doing that. You go from carrying a broom to carrying an assault weapons killed people. Yeah, that's exactly what I don't agree with that What he should be prosecuted and his mother should be a problem. I agree, Steve, I'll say that Steve and I appreciate the phone call. I'll say this. He has been charged with two counts of first degree murder. Okay, so we'll see what his mother took him within a legal weapon drove him across state lines, and he committed a and and what took place took place. She would be charged with Brian. The fact that she isn't charged Colorant House was given a ride from his mother from Illinois to Wisconsin, which, like 15 minutes away while he was there someone he met up with gay from that weapon because of how under siege the city was. And why did that happen? Because the governor of Wisconsin Tony Evers, did not did not give the amount of National Guard support. That the police chief and Kenosha requested. Okay, so I'll say this. The Wisconsin law It says very clearly that he was too young to carry that weapon and you weaken talk politics. All we want to because we got to take a break. We could blame Democrats. I'm not surprised you're doing that. But the bottom line still stays the same. Just because you disagree with the Democrats. Politics does not mean that an ignorant mother should drop her seven politics. The decision. He is different, okay..
Chicago - Kyle Rittenhouse, Charged With Killing Two In Kenosha, Will Fight Extradition To Wisconsin
"Illinois, charged in connection with debts of protesters remains in his home state's Kyle Rittenhouse is charged with fatally shooting two men and injuring another during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, related to the Jacob Blake shooting at a hearing via zoom. Friday, his attorneys announced they plan to fight extradition. Wisconsin So we have no extradition papers from Wisconsin. We have no extradition papers from Illinois. Obviously, we need to review those that were in title is a Matter of a lot of challenge those by right of habeas corpus, which we intend to do and happy to do it. Written house was on the video call he was masked from the detention center is only words were good morning, your honor. His next court appearance will be in two weeks. Ryan Burrow, ABC News Chicago Chuck Stevenson,
Chicago - Teen charged in Kenosha shootings fights extradition
"Kyle Rittenhouse is fighting extradition. 17 year old auntie Octane who's been accused of killing two and injuring another during the protests of the Jacob Blake shooting in Kenosha last month. Fighting to return to Wisconsin is fighting a return to Wisconsin to face homicide charges that could put him in prison for life. Rittenhouse was arrested at his home in Antioch, August 25th. His attorney, says he was acting in self defense. The judge gave 14 days of the defense to review papers and file pleadings ahead of a hearing October
Kyle Rittenhouse Attorneys Plan to Fight Extradition to Wisconsin
"17 17 17 17 year year year year old old old old Antioch Antioch Antioch Antioch boy boy boy boy accused accused accused accused in in in in the the the the fatal fatal fatal fatal shooting shooting shooting shooting that that that that killed killed killed killed two two two two protesters protesters protesters protesters in in in in Kenosha, Kenosha, Kenosha, Kenosha, Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Wisconsin. His His His His fighting fighting fighting fighting extradition extradition extradition extradition from from from from Illinois Illinois WG WG ends ends Ryan Ryan Burrow Burrow reports reports appearing appearing at at an an extradition extradition hearing hearing in in Lake Lake County, County, Illinois. Illinois. V V a a zoom zoom the the mask. mask. Kyle Kyle Rittenhouse Rittenhouse only only spoke spoke once once during during the the 10 10 minute minute long long proceeding. proceeding. Morning, Morning, Mr Mr Riton Riton House. House. Your Your honor honor His His attorney's attorney's challenging challenging extradition. extradition. Wisconsin Wisconsin by by writ writ of of habeas habeas corpus corpus will will remain remain a a juvenile juvenile detention detention in in Illinois Illinois until until at at least least October October 9th, 9th, his his attorney, attorney, also also asking asking for for access access to to a a laptop laptop to to be be able able to to show show evidence evidence to to his his clients. clients. Ryan Ryan
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"After the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha Wisconsin, there's riding in the streets. There's there's fires there's businesses being burnt down, and somehow some way some informal militia was formed or communicated. I. Don't know WHO's through social media, how they all got together. But all of a sudden, there are bunch of of guys and I, don't think there were any women I didn't see any. From the videos, I looked at a bunch of is with. The calm long guns at a are fifteen, some had and they were in Kenosha while the demonstrators slash rioters or in the streets and they are protecting businesses. But inevitably, you know it's GonNa happen there's going to be there's going to be a conflict and there was and it was deadly and now a seventeen year old isn't kyle rittenhouse a seventeen year old from Illinois is now charged with shooting three different people. Three different people. He's seventeen years old I mean. Wow But. Let's get beyond and Michael is still with us. Court. TV, Anchor Michael had I think another discussion for another day. Why seventeen year old is there I wanNA. I WANNA save that for another time because that's going to send US A. WE'RE GONNA run out of time because my producers going to give me a rap Q. Right because because that's the way he is. So I want to focus on the law here and the Law of self defense. Okay. Based upon these three shootings and the reason why is I heard attorney speaking and his attorney came out and said, this is a clear case of self defense. So self. Let's talk about it. So cal rittenhouse seventeen years old..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Or legal world of law enforcement. So it's difficult but this is how I feel. So you talked about more information coming out right. So the video comes out I on Sunday and obviously there's there's that reaction that you spoke about to the video. Let's take a listen to the Attorney General of Wisconsin filling in a few details surrounding all of this not A. But a few of the details during the incident. Officers attempted to arrest Jacob S Blake Age twenty nine. Law Enforcement. Deployed Taser to attempt to stop Mr Blake. Up at the Taylor was not successful in stopping him. Mr Blake walked around his vehicle. opened the driver's side door. And leaned forward. While holding onto Mr Blake Shirt Officer Rust and Fired his service weapon seven times. Officer Shatskikh fired the weapon into Mr Blake's back. No other officer fired their weapon. The KENOSHA police department. Does not have body cameras and therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras. Okay. So there are some of the details and not a lot of details, Michael, which is interesting but more details or alleged details as what I'm going to call them came from the police union because the Police Union as we know as a union to represent the interests of the police officers involved but they came forward and released a statement and put a lot more into it. So I wanted to walk through that and ask you a couple of things I. The first thing is. You know. How much weight do you give a statement coming from the Police Union and the number two? Let's presume that the stuff is true and we're just presuming for the purposes of what does it mean if what they're saying is true right because I think it's going to be contested. They say the were dispatched the location due to a complaint that Mr Blake was attempting to steal the callers keys. Vehicle officers were aware of Mr Blake's Open Warrant for Felony Sexual Assault Third Degree before they arrived on scene. Okay. Let's let's first of all. Let's answer the big question as we go through this entire police union statement, your thoughts about the weight at this point should be given to the statement. You know police unions in this country as we discuss some of the issues surrounding police departments across the country least unions have been cited as one of the major problems. They will back and protect their people almost to a fault and what we're finding is that a lot of their attitudes towards the people they are policing are not necessarily positive. So how much weight do I give it I? Give it very little weight. I don't know where getting their information from I. Don't Know Wall of you know how they have come to certain conclusions. If you noticed throughout the document, they're using inflammatory words that have they could have chosen different words. So they're trying to paint it in the direction that serves their client because I consider the police in this instance, their client. So it's the same weight I would give a defense attorney's statement I mean that they have a purpose in releasing it they're trying to accomplish something and that's to create a narrative that works for their their client. They're they're the folks that they represent and that's how I look at. Okay. Absolutely. So as we go through this now though I want to want you to go against your gut right and just let's just presume that these facts are true and what they mean legally to the case and the investigation and whether or not..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Looking at all of that was an interesting situation. You saw the same papers I saw on, uh, hey, was trying to get away from them against looks like any fell on Then they very violently attacked him. And if there's something that we're looking at right now, and it's under investigation, but I guess he was in very big trouble. He would have been, I probably would have been killed. Er, it's under investigation. You notice that called Kyle Rittenhouse Vigilante? As I know the story. He was already in Wisconsin. He did not bring a gun across state lines. It was already there when when he got the rifle he was going to supposedly help. Oh, and just got his med kit and everything else. I don't know the dude. I don't know his real intentions. I do want to know what a 17 year old was doing there. A 17 year old was doing there with the rifle at that place. And if you say to me what does that matter? I'll save us 17 and maybe you need to take a breath and get yourself some fresh air, Maybe a cool drink and reduce the vapors. Maybe that's what's necessary here. Don't Don't lie to me. Don't don't kid yourself. That would be that would be foolhardy. Absolutely foolhardy to do. But it doesn't mean that he wasn't defending himself. And it does not mean he was a vigilante. This is mythology. And the press is apoplectic that Trump is even saying anything.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on The Fifth Column
"So if I did have my permit in New York totally have my gun all the time just use it to like doors and and and we see. That you can't shake hands to just put the barrel in their hand. It's nice. I've been look you also see a gun into somebody being an effective tool. Yeah. We'll look we also see somebody being shot and killed by the police who actually declared the Vatican. Yeah. Well, that was that was a super fucked up such a supervisor's office and we know the intermission to that because the film. But this is a perfect example of we can decipher what went wrong and you can do something from a training standpoint. You can actually focus on giving clear instructions to people so you don't shoot the shit out of them needlessly. It's late but briefly because I think we'll get pilloried if we don't knock Kyle Rittenhouse. I I. Think we can be somewhat brief here and I think we can be somewhat brief because it's a similar conversation about like waiting until knowing exactly. Exactly, we don't fucking know there's video and certainly when I first saw this, I thought to myself, what is a seventeen year old kid? Wins in the streets by himself, it seemed because the footage that I kept seeing was him running away from people by himself, and then I eventually saw some distant grainy footage. It's also incident it, which is the other thing like how did you get here? What is your story? Doing on the streets dude. Said we've made of lefties for lopping this is. This is I don't know about. The KENOSHA THE KENOSHA guard. With, like citizens of a community who have the right to bear arms going outside and just standing in front of a building he wasn't one of them. Hey looter back the fuck off. No, YOU'RE NOT GONNA burn this shit down. This is our neighborhood, and if you actually see some this video from Kenosha, it's people who are standing there saying look I'm with black lives matter I'm good with you guys but this is our town don't burn this shit down the police. What are these guys? The police station is over there go burn that DAX. Don't burn this down. This is our home in fact. My wife will hate this if it's my neighborhood. And they're like I'm on the corner with the gun like I'm there with the heat come. See me we outside we aside. So that's less chemistry code switching. Defender property say not know where we are. And drop the addy. So I'm fine with that. Actually Kyle on the other hand this is a more complicated story and I want to hear from his parents at some point because I it's weird. 'cause anyone gotten in touch with them and have they spoken to anyone They shouldn't shit. Like any good lawyer would have told the parents, right? You're like, do not say anything do not let your son say anything the crazy thing is that how politicises gone so quickly like you have all of these right wing pundits swooping in saying this guy's a hero, I just got an e the NRA is like tweeting in his in support of him. Yeah. Yeah. The NRA did and now there's like gun owners, of America, just sent of frigging press release out saying Kyle Ridden House appears to be a victim of mob violence a man who is justified in empowered to use utilize the second amendment recognize to right to defend his life. He was also breaking the law too by the way. I mean, he says I've. Is. He's too young. He's open aries. He's also carried a gun across state lines. Both of those things are are illegal and whether or not that. Actually too young. He's too young. Yes. Too Young is going to be doing that I will say this though I will say this having watched a lot of the footage. Already weighed in and said that the Blake shooting the something seems wrong to me. They're watch the footage of like how to the extent we can sort of decipher something and is it self-defense? There's an argument. and. There's going to be an investigation and there's going to be a trial and I hope he will have an opportunity to mount his defence and to the extent he was not defending himself like there are two dead people and one person who is injured and will suffer for the rest of his life in Anna minimum like in that particular situation, it seems to me that. At least two of those people possibly maybe just one like maybe they didn't see the first shooting that happened I might if I was out there, I might have been trying to stop this kid to had just seen shooting take place. Right? If you heard whoa that motherfucker with the gun, the one that's running he just killed somebody just shot in the head he just killed somebody I might try. To actually say that too like he was on the he was. killed. and. It sounds like he's saying, I think I just killed somebody who knows who was talking to, but we don't again. It's like we're kind of guessing here but. A seen footage of like what happens when they catch you on the street. Like I, don't know if you remember the footage of this kid early in the early days of these protests and actual riots whether it's some kid who is defending a store with a sword. And they managed to disarm him and they managed to beat the Shit. I don't even know what kind of condition he's in. It's not good. Kyle fear that that might be his fate if they were able to disarm him on the street then. I don't know, but he certainly wouldn't have been stupid to think that. Is it. Self Defense. I, have no idea I. Do know that two people are dead and another seriously injured and the seventeen year old kid has ruined his fucking life and the Kenosha police department. Was Not in a position to be everywhere they needed to be in order to maintain control of the city and to keep a tremendous amount of destruction from happening. On the streets of Wisconsin, and again, this is another instance of obvious political failure at every level of government and Wisconsin and in Kenosha and really with the with respect to the police forces. Well, it also the the weird thing about the criticism of the police force when he walked towards the police to. Turn himself in basically to give himself up that people were yelling to the police that this is the. which easy to tell on video and and they drove by him, and obviously this was because he was a white kid with a gun. I. Don't buy that argument for a number of reasons. But they were told their three people that were shot down the street and they were hustling down there to see what was going on and they drove by him. There were still cops behind them a big line of cops in to which he went to them with his hands up and his gun slung around him. I just thought that was. Kind of emblematic of how people react to the stuff is that when there was not a ton of information, let's extrapolate from this little scrap of video that this is a police force that was you know except. They gave him water before and said. Good on you guys for defending. Also, it also sent him away him and a bunch of the militia guys, Erna. Corner, and the police came and said, Hey, you're not supposed to be in this area get out of here. He tried to talk to the officers I? Know Get out here. There's a couple of different scraps of video on that which are sort of contradictory. But I think there was probably a presumption that these were people who. I don't know what this presumption only that. These are people who are defending their own property and maybe that's what they thought who knows but but the Russian, all of this stuff to make some sort of grand claims about what happened there is pretty silly and and also David points for your team. Is going into into into repeat this kind of boring mantra..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on The Fifth Column
"After they they could spit in his face and he would go on camera and be like you know what these students are just brave souls and they would burn down his house and he'd be like, you know what is fire really anyway. This is. Brent Weinstein is a professor and he's like the entire professor is okay. These kids are going to be dumb asses I'm going to let them figure this shit out, which is what he is but tabular a mayor. But, I'm saying the president of the university. was. The one who has thority. Shut it down in every time. There is an included this in the piece that I did. There is a video from the occupation of his office where he wanted he said I have to go to the bathroom and they said, no, you can't. Someone just hold it and he and he said Okay and he started. No one time. Asked him why. They have a right to say I'm like, no no, they don't. So, you can't go to the bathroom and this isn't. Have a right to say. And you have a right to abide by it you're a fucking tool and I see a lot of that a lot of him in Ted Wheeler who is he doesn't realize that he's lost. There's no way of getting this mob back on his side. So he can go out and protest with them which she did once and they just mom out him the whole time. Right every time he tried to speak boone stuff adamant risk and he can try to turn. His fires attention on Donald Trump but they don't really care about Donald. Trump. Is Notice about these people there way beyond the idea of donald trump what they're arguing for and what what sort of political worldview they have is racist Donald Trump existed before donald trump in it's one of you know what is the problem? The problem is capitalism Donald Trump. I mean Donald Trump is just a symptom don trump goes away they still have a problem right Joe Biden is probably Even worse to them these masquerading as a liberal, that's. vaping what I think but. It's not I mean. If I just mentioned trump if I say that this is the man who actually stoking this things the people who are you know causing problems in Portland right? They are the Patriot pair people in some ways, but it's For the people on the other side whatever you WanNa call them, you want to call them. But it's by far outstripping them ten, twenty, two one. If they hear something like that that it's Donald Trump is that they're just going to be like do no it isn't. That's not why we're here. You fucking kidding me. It's not Donald Trump. John Trump socks and donald trump supporters coming a fucking fight them do pitch battle like it's. Nineteen thirty eight in the east end of London but. Our problem is a lot. We're revolutionaries. The people truly believe Miss. It is not a Glenn Beck. Fever dream nerve revolutionaries in their mouths and the is going back. He said that about Obama. Fever treatments that it's the actual political leaders. It's not it is not these are like you know. Over educated people who have undercooked ideas who believe that revolution is just around the bend if you look at all these interviews with people, the weather underground. Because they're pretty fascinating. Brian Burrows Book. Days of rage is pretty interesting on this is that there were so few in number in the acknowledged this. Now, there's a lot of them are pretty pretty interesting about it and they always say and I've mentioned this before it was kind of wistfully and kind of embarrassed. They say, yeah, we really thought the Revolution was around the corner and remember a analog which people say Nixon Sound Majority Nixon forty, nine states in one thousand, nine, hundred after the Democratic convention after assassinations. Percentage points incredible and then you look at somewhere like Wisconsin, which I'm going tomorrow in Donald Trump eked out a win in two thousand sixteen. Hillary decided that it wasn't worth showing up and he look to Obama's margins. It's like what? Fourteen percentage points twenty percent enormous win for him two times in a row and then trump. I really wonder what's GonNa happen now because Joe, Biden and a commanding lead and Camille texted in Aspen you matinee both Tina be interesting is that is this does this violence does this burning down full blocks in Kenosha and those pictures are very Berlin nineteen forty five is this like rubble everywhere. Does this narrow the gap to a point where Democrats should be concerned because I mean job is up. Five points above Donald. Trump in the past. Prior to all this stuff prior to George Flood. Let's listen to. You knows this stuff what do you think I mean by the way you can also say if you don't want to localize it to Wisconsin this is something that everyone's saying about everywhere, right? Honestly the more it's a little bit of a thing where you have to realize that what is happening was in Kenosha. Trump will want to extrapolate to any other urban area any other place with maybe more than one, hundred, thousand people and go. This is what's happening Kenosha look at this burning city it is going to happen to all of your cities. All of the cities are no longer save. He's been waging this war and cities for I don't know since the very beginning of the pandemic when you had like. Geez. It's eleven thirty. Is He wrong about that. Is He wrong about Because the violence looting things like that. Of course, it's quite different and it's very very ramped up in places like Portland even in Chicago and Kenosha but we've seen a lot of crazy stuff in a lot of like weird cities. Canoga I did not expect to become a flash point like if you kept the camera aimed at Portland and Chicago that's absolutely one thing Kenosha that is potentially a big trump talking point 'cause that's a city that very, it's not it's not even the biggest city in frigging Wisconsin. Is essentially a suburb of Milwaukee, right? It's a hundred thousand people. Yeah. Lake. Those kind of exists anywhere. Now, I've spent some time in Kenosha because I, did the police shootings documentary about Michael. Bell Junior. With his father. Michael. Bell Senior and. I can tell you that Kenosha at a minimum you know ton of one, hundred, thousand in Wisconsin..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Say What Needs Saying
"Welcome to thank Zach. I'm here with Random Gosh answer today, we're talking about the riots that were going on in Kenosha Wisconsin and specifically the case of Kyle Rittenhouse the seventeen year old that has come up in the news a lot lately because he was there with a gun and wound up shooting three people, it's caused a lot of division on the perception of it was and whether or not it was justified or legal, and a lot of other concerns have come up so. We just wanted to give some brief background for those of you who aren't familiar with what's going on. So I, I, WanNa show, you guys a brief video that shows a couple of difference angles, camera angles of the incidents in. So in case you haven't seen them or don't know what we're talking about, and then after that, we'll just go through briefly what the actual charges were. That were brought up against Kyle and then we'll jump into discussion. We'll see what you guys think. This video does have graphic portions. So if you are at all squeamish or afraid of guns or Just e aware that this is footage of the shootings at various parts and parts graphics. So just be aware of that. Discretion is advised yes, and so currently this starts before the actual incident. So from there, we'll just go up. Now. We're all the way back by the gas station again. You. Water. Really is area's slow. Traffic. We. Got A couple. Got Being couples will give you a couple. Really do. Walk. I'm sure they have bottles of water. Ice. As you can see there. A good angle. Yeah. Very cool and you guys local or no. Yeah Okay Cool. We'll. We'll do this. Rona Banners. Oh, do not afraid to know corona virus effect my shirt underneath it says. I survived a cruel device near. Average. It's very possible. was that. albro. believe it or not. I've been doing this for twelve years so. forty one. And You know if you guys see me..
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7
"The MBA Christmas Party 00. Hated to kill Valentine Show. Glad to have you along. By the way people have been asking well. It looks like this. This Kyle Rittenhouse guy was acting in self defense. Why are they charging you with murder? I'll explain In just a moment. I'll explain. Other things going on today. Obviously, there are other things going on today, March on Washington They're exceeding DCs Corona virus restrictions, no arrests made for himself. Black lives matter. Cofounder insisted Hollywood Go on strike. Yeah, hardly wait for that Hollywood going on strike and Pamela is backtracking on the mask mandate. We'll tell you all about that. 6157379986615737 W W T and Instant. Email. Phillip valentine dot com Web address valentine dot com. Follow us on Twitter at Valentine's Show and on parlor at Phil Valentine. Welcome Ella. Maybe backtracking, but it's still Friday. You could go your whole That's right. Thank God. It's bad. Johnny, who got dancing in the booth? It's ours. Who.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Politics and More Podcast
"He was very critical of as he put it women and especially minority women who are single mothers who have more kids so that they can get more welfare payments in many ways. He's a throwback to Reagan Era Republicans any he talks a much darker message in his district than he certainly did on stage in front of all those American flags. So the protests, we've been seeing this summer continue police shootings, and the conventions been taking place against the shooting of Jacob Blake a twenty nine year old black man by police officers in Kenosha Wisconsin and these protests like those across the rest of the country have been largely peaceful but on Tuesday night three protesters were shot two of them fatally and ten year old Kyle Rittenhouse has been tape has been arrested in connection to the deaths and has been linked to right wing militias and previous trump rallies. Talk a little bit about that. The theme of protests, how the police shootings and the protesters fit into the trump campaign and the message they are broadcasting. You know it seems to me Donald Trump is playing the hand. He's got. He can't talk about Kovic because that has gone badly he can't talk about the economy because that has gone badly he can't talk about how? He is replaced the affordable care act. What he's got right now is as he likes to say in all caps line order and the protests recently in Kenosha just up the road from Chicago very much play into his narrative that the cities are awash with anger and hate and violence, and you'll hear we have heard throughout the convention This notion that boy under Joe Biden things would be ever worse. These democratic mayors have lost control. You need me Outta trust me to to fix things it's very much the American carnage message. is in he did announce that he would be sending federal law enforcement into Kenosha to restore law and order as he did out in Portland, which didn't go entirely as he had hoped, it would. He did say that yes, and last night at least the protests in Kenosha were quite peaceful. Twitter is trump's most effective weapon. I think it's safe to say and you I know have been closely following his feed. Could you talk a little bit about that and how representative that is of what's been playing out? Yeah, it's it's entertaining I guess is that the word to to watch trump on twitter but also maddening? If you combine trump's twitter feed with the trump campaign's daily email barrage you get a message of venom victimization. You'd think they were at the Alamo outnumbered not the ones who are actually in charge of of the country and pretty much holding all the levers of power. The mainstream media does talk a lot about fear and how trump stokes fears and how effective that is but we probably should point out that show. Biden. Who accepted his nomination last week with a speech all about love and unity. His campaign hasn't been versus stoking fears either about the dangers trump poses to American democracy. You know whatever you think about that he has been making that message very clear. One assumes it's mostly a tactic to fire up his own base but how are republicans responding to this apocalyptic view of what might await us with a second term of Donald Trump? Will we know from many trump supporters that they're all in on this notion that the mainstream media, the liberal elites all of these.
"kyle rittenhouse" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"Is Kyle Rittenhouse. Be interviewed believed my daily caller before the shooting incidents were you doing out here obviously are armed and you're in front of this business We saw burning last night. So it's up. People are getting injured our jobs protect this business. My God, There's somebody hurt. I'm running into you. Hard to understand, but I mean, he was there with a number of others who believe that was their job to protect businesses. Uh, you know, Oh, at the at the very end of the last clip, you could hear the police unit on you hear the horn of the police on saying is someone injured that way? What you can't hear is what you see on the video, and that is Because the person is capturing the video of the civilian. That's Captain video keeps the frame on on Kyle Rittenhouse, and he puts his gun down, still has it on him, still has his hand on the weapon and walked toward the police units. And walks right past them as the police units, you know, go to take care of the injured. I don't know if they're not clearly not aware that the person that fired the shots that caused the injury is walking right by them. S so it's a It's it's. It's a whole lot of mass. Carl. You know, the interesting thing here, though, is that you have people who are well intentioned and this is what we have said from the get Go. You have law abiding Americans who are watching this on TV and say This is wrong. The people's businesses should not be destroyed. That people should not be attacked in the streets on that the police clearly you're not being supported and given the go ahead to do their jobs. So you know, I've got to get out there and help. I've got to do something. This is not right. These are not people there to burn down buildings to steal Nike shoes. Tio Lieut. These air people who literally just want people to leave businesses alone and leave others alone. I'm sure if you asked these individuals do you support people's freedom of speech to protest? They'll say, sure, but not to burn down buildings so the motivation may be genuine. It may be good, but We've said this from the get go. My biggest concern here is that when the police are not allowed to do their jobs, Maura people will be hurt because the looters and the violent rioters will inflict damage on innocent civilians. And people who think they're doing the right thing are gonna end up not doing the right thing because they're not trained. This kid probably thought And we've we've educated people on the show that you're not allowed to shoot someone just because they're stealing from a store or or if they're lighting something on fire. Unless you can show that you are in imminent danger, and that you are simply defending yourself. You're not allowed. To use deadly force. And so that's why this kid this kid ate 17 years old. This kid is facing charges. What he did was wrong. What he did was a crime and from what I can see right now, it's likely that he, you know, shot this guy thinking that, you know, lighting something on fire and not complying with my command. To stop lighting it on fire is justification for me using force to protect the property. No. In the law. You don't have a right to use deadly force. When property is at risk, you could only use deadly force when people's lives. Are at risk, including your own. So that's also very long. Wisconsin. I don't think extends to your right to go on someone else's private property and draw Eso open carry its open carry. Okay. I think you're thinking about the castle doctrine, which is you can defend your home and your property to separate things. One is you're either his home's always property. He's he's itself aborting. The self important himself. You know, some kind of a A soldier protecting the streets of Kenosha. That isn't what he is, and we've raises concern with others. And now it's come to pass. It has now come to be a reality. Your thoughts on this sad incident 806 100 Kogo 806 105 646 at Carl DeMaio at Lou Penrose. We gotta talk about Biden's response as well as the Democrats. I think you're starting to wake up and realize this stuff is damaging them. Yeah, it's starting to damage him and they are beginning to smell the coffee. That's next on the day. My report also your comments and thoughts at 806 100 Kogo, But first let's check traffic.