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"kurban henderson" Discussed on No Jumper
"Here's older some shit never really even thought about the fact that I would one day get to meet one of the minds behind some of the most I like that you know and it sounds we heard of buying like signed up like we had to you had to get up and physically go down to the spot and sound up you know what I'm saying you had to be with we're we're fake checks man it was crazy you know what I'm saying so then we finally made this cat named Kurban Henderson who wanted to record store Dow's rapid creations in east Cleveland and he signed to independent deal where I really don't know what kind of deal no nobody from yourself with the deal you know what I'm saying but you know we were just desperate so we got into it and we dropped a local album bright call faces the death and after the dropped at well before we jump at album as well I went to prison what was that for Dow was for aw related so shooting with not shooting worse but they didn't because wisden press charges but they charged me having the weapon how do they know that you had the weapon because then you just bring him to the hospital Oh yeah but they got me though Oh so you can just push them out drought may know he actually we put up to the emergency he actually told me to get out the car and and I was so much in shock I was like man just dropped to the hospital go because he was like they know you shot me right you know what I'm saying so it was just like I went to jail they had night for that file when detail for that in is because the police officer came out when he was trying to get me to tell the true story right he was okay you can allow you wanted to with your friend just died heart drought that was like Oh my God uh-huh Whoa fuck big man wow he told me that you don't stand within I was in you believe yeah I thought it was a done deal second crazy so but then too late like a day later I called home and about just telling me that wishes in the hospital Houston he I would like Yell Matt They told me he died it was like what no heathen dollar he'd cool they they they can save his leg and everything all the can you believe different days because it's not just happen right Oh my God I was in their strengths and like man this whereas Dan my life for that is so crazy holy shit so so how long did you end up doing for the gun ought to get I did eighteen months okay Dan and you know what I'm saying like like I say he didn't press charges they charged me would have because it was a solid off shotgun illegal bryant saying so that's why I ain't GonNa be no I was looking for some low were you sitting there in jail mad as fuck they were in jail or you said I like well at least a year so onerous into what could have happened given actually happened Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I was thankful did Dan you know I was when did it happen but I was thankful did it happened to to to the extent to where everybody can bounce back from it at some point ooh in come back from it so definitely lost their lives and you know we hear now when did the name come into play when you guys aren't without what man you know the name on how many end then everybody having bone in their name will first of all you know after after high school you know is really turned up in the streets you know say we got like re re really really hot boys in a and it's crazy because he wasn't no drug kingpins but we we just we just don't Hustle Hustle to survive day to day you guys are mostly Robin you're like actual drug dealers now we we we so don't we all we all and if we didn't have it we took yours and soldiers took you know what I'm saying that he used to do but but you know so so by that time on the streets hard lay lay lay lay in wish they they they hit the block they like scraping blockade day they they're they nagin fronted by some but Boston real kingpins you know what I'm saying so I think lay getting uh-huh we're like we're like a thousand rocks on them I'm sitting at home watching the with my parents like watching the news and they should just do it on the within like see I told you about it I'm like Oh my God yes so so after that lazy gets assist he gives him to juvenile he was like sixteen seventeen thousand Rox yeah that's lucky he gives it to juvenile and you know I hear them for a long time and then I heard don't anyway he could get out was if he went to go live with his uncle and taxes in Dallas Texas so lazy went down there and live down there for like a year so and I hear from at all so I was still doing music during the war I was doing it with other people like just like like just making music just randomly and then like after year so lazy came back a lay said he him him and his do have something called bone enterprise and lazy bone was actually easy ball I okay yeah lazy bone was busy bone and we use his name for for for our little thing and I was like cool down with we all have a bone but at the tabby was only me lazy bowl so I was like cool I'm going to be crazy bowl and he was like I don't lazy bill and like it was just crazy and lazy right you know we that's the whole foundation of bone you know saying when they first started it was crazy and lazy that's why all right let me ask this at that time nobody was actually saying bone as slang for having sex either right no that's interesting that that came in later just because it's always weird to have like the name of thing all of a sudden become a slang term for a new thing definitely definitely could open up lyrical possibilities really I'm thinking about it definitely right so okay that's how the names all sort of came into play and everything yes in the you know busy it took us a minute to turn to let busy in the group and then events late let the do and they're letting makes eighty minute I let alone again the group Mad I you know what I'm saying because I thought he was dope you know what I'm saying and Gabe been hanging around as a lot busy I didn't didn't didn't star hanging around us until till two high school okay so we was almost about to be out of high school drop out of high school right yeah but he was he was he was whereas member Gupta come into the Google how overall in terms of all the years combined how hard is it been for you guys to stay a group because this is when you look at the history of rap groups to so many amazing groups that if they had stayed together would have been able to make absurd amounts of money Nwea Wu Tang Arkansas all day you guys have held us together better than most in terms of really keeping that unity which is weird because it's like realistically four meet when you're sick seen all of a sudden you're in your thirties with the fuck you have in common not a lot takes a real commitment to keep everybody on the same page it may well well you know we we we consider ourselves to be like real brothers you know say we weren't brought together everything about ball happening assume like it was meant to be you'll like the way we met young saying it wasn't staged wouldn't put together the way we met and everything you know what I'm saying we bonded together we I do not and they were all similar so we bought it and we was all we had all those years when we was grinding was all we had remember when we first came out here in easy saw how close we were losing a studio one time you know we are in La we don't know nobody just some Cleveland you know are we I wish we might do that 'cause it had been cracking right life a real because he he he knew like we was real brothers and it's still like he oh we better stop doing business together as a family really Saito because you see so many rappers who are straight in the dart with their homeys and then they get famous and six months later they they hate each other and they can't stand each other it's like they forget about the fact that they were there for each other when they didn't have shit that just disappears from their minds so quickly once they start having things yeah you know what I mean well you know what they say about money you know money in France but you know it's just like it's never that serious is always about the family you'd like I mean we love making money you know and we very fortunate to have a twenty five years run to where we're still in demand across the globe Brian you know what I'm saying accidents deaths of blessing in herself so everybody understands you know like we overhauled everybody should abroad egos and all their dumps it should go through earlier in your career you know because we're not fortieth now Mandelson we like I said we bless still be here able to do what we do yes it is it is easier to get along now that you guys are adults who have families you got like a re you know if you go into a show it's kind of like just going to a day at work right hey on Friday now still as family man like I said when you get comfortable with people your brother always shy right notable you know saying you're GonNa always you can always bump as a person who's GonNa always comfortable when people I'm sure it's something that annoys you about they wanna I've watched interviews with you and other members being interviewed together and not even just you but just everybody in general I've felt like I could read emotions on people's faces and I could almost tell who was a little annoyed with a WHO who was having a bad day who was maybe just not feeling that is who got a little annoyed when a certain members started talking too long I'm sitting that thing like this is interesting Oh yeah yeah what happens though right you know what I'm saying you you days we like man what you do just showed him lesson miles talk all the time with different restaurants and everything and always what I'm impressed by is their ability to I was in and I felt like I fucking felt that vibe between them a little bit almost like they both wanted to talk a lot but they never even though I could tell that they sort of jockeying for position so much that they didn't let it bother him enough of actually became a thing and and I think that's what is Kinda like the sign that group's going to be able to last for a long time if they can have these little disagreements and you sort of brush them aside we never really had no We never really had no major money disputes you know saying everything was always broken down evenly across the table you know because we we started this journey as brothers we're gonna go every single bit of it as brothers shared everything equally from day one to now that's bigger than any of you on your own and that's got to feel crazy so like formed a brand that is bigger than the sum of the parts yes it is man and that is crazy because I tell people that all the time I'm like one member doesn't make the weekend we've done shows bone shows win three members in this in one city and the other two members in another see the same night and they both sell out in different cities while really and and different cities like you know what I'm saying so it's like it's like as long as people here though bone music the music is bigger than us is bigger regardless if I'm tired of doing it totta go get no stays doing the same zone is in full demands that's crazy because there's very few raptors are like this it'd be onsite yeah you know definitely definitely like if we talk about Wu Tang I mean you could name the Wu Tang members that are world famous and there's Wutang members really just mostly the hardcore fans no yeah that's kind of crazy that's interesting do you feel you're wearing a hat is that like a group that you always felt a close kinship with yeah man you know because we came in and around the same the same era you know.
"kurban henderson" Discussed on No Jumper
"No Jumper coups podcast in the world and today I'm doing an interview I never thought I would do I see I've been listening to the bone thugs since I was like ten Dunno influential stuff I was listening to as a kid do crazy bone in the building doing I'm doing great heavier man talking about you is in particular crazy stories going around yeah man story line here is it okay if we saw a dive into that assist I do want to talk about just the overall musical legacy and everything but right now people are talking about you because they're like Dan it sounds like a crazy person shooting the homie by accident Oh bob homing or what man no man it was you know it was it was it was so dark days in our pass you know we was actually is actually out doing some things he wasn't supposed to be doing on sounds like for sure yeah you know a man who's intoxicated whatever you got alcohol involved firearms you know it it could be disastrous ended up being it was it was it was was crazy bow wow that is the fuck it was a savage storage just because what you guys were just doing robberies was kind of like an average Friday night because back then times were so crazy see wish actually amt everything up you know what I'm saying 'cause me Lazy and busy you we was busy Father House you know we was eating dinner you and wish come over there drunk tumbler you know I'm getting ready to go to let's go out let's let's get drunk I gotTa go to jail tomorrow it went out and US drink and turned into a robbing people in all kinds of stuff man you saying day just got out of hand you know just so happy when it was a carjacking so just just so happened do we we we we had a twelve gauge one shale in there it is largest when it took all our dirty so we we got the first victim for the van routing for the van and this is totally random just people without yeah you guys while totally random you know we doing was coming out coming out of a store or something we saw me jumped out the car took his keys to his van and and we got Sal van he happened to have a box twelve gauge shells so you know dashes took the level up because we started low the girl loves US personnel at the window light I was I'll tell you why I feel like to buck in the movie juice shoe not the window so we are really not worried about the cops know that had the point what we were taking Ohio to sound like this completely lawless place was were you guys just total total Salam's where pretty much anything went down in the Koch weren't coming around Oh yeah we was in a was definite who within a within several different neighborhoods you know saying but it was late night too low so it was late night yeah man that was a crazy night for real because a lot of places you know if there's one shot gun shot to the air that's reason enough of the cops to come riding around shooting it was pretty wild may but you know as crazy as it sounds when when he got shot I'm thankful did you stop there because we were heading to do something else that could have went terribly wrong riot and we wouldn't even in our right minds at your saying so that take that whole wish that we were going to do you know sandwiches thankful because like like I said it way worse in the day you know so so it didn't go that far wow crazy I'm gonna take a quick break sent a shout out to our sponsor eagle energy they make these really cool caffeine inhaler pens it's basically like the way people hit a jewel or whatever except instead of getting the tobacco in you get some of that caffeine and it's it's kind of like more efficient and a smoother way to live than drinking red bowler coffee or whatever I actually had a lot of people hitting it chief keep hitting him about this we actually got it to him but he wants one so we got these for you if you want them people who want to check it out the Lincoln description they can check it out at Eagle dot energy and use the Promo Code no jumper twenty two if you want to support one of our sponsors Eagle Energy who's been holding down the stream and also say November confidante these new shirts from our New York pop up getting back into business here so I'm just interested in like the time line because I a lot of childhood like really misguided about bone thugs where I think I thought you guys were just from the west coast because you were so closely associated with that sort of similar style of dress and stuff because the flannels the brains and everything so I'm like ten year old sort of confused about you guys were coming from I'm interested in like timeline so did you you graduate high school okay but so how do you how do you get from like you know your childhood years to actually being sort of like running the streets and doing stuff like what was described in that story I'm just interested in exactly how long you were sort of in the streets live in this life before you are the music stuff started to call you Maso we are probably the streets about sixteen you know I was on the streets doing we we don't we don't like about sixteen seventy by the time I was seventeen I was homeless on the street so so I was living on the street so you didn't really a family unit that was yeah you're definitely but you know the you know the family wasn't the union was broken you know what I'm saying what was it the there was just like divorce wasn't drugs being done or not usual epidemic hit in the eighties the drugs you know what I'm saying the the crack cocaine had both of your parents oh you really everybody's parents who then I can remember wow everybody's parents you know you know in our whole thing so it was like you know the things that we saw we went from having things like not having things to this epidemic yeah so it was like we vowed to each other to you know May when we get older we're not gonNA never go down this road we're not going to be like this not gonNA never be in poverty like this you know saying we I'm going to do something else but in the meantime we was on the streets just trying to figure everything out wow and so the other dogs as though like did y'all click up at a very early stage in terms of actual criminal element or how did you guys sort of come together in terms of like running around doing the sort of thing man we when we when I first met him I met a lazy in a flesh I I was actually going to in your house school name Franklin Roosevelt and they were had a whole economic class lazy bone and had an English class with fleshing ball lazy used to do the B. box a good one another do name Kate Sheila roosters sit in the back of the class wrap you know what I'm saying and we're lazy came into the class when he got transferred to our class he started like the planet with his mouth during the beat boss he was crazy with it uh English and fleshed flesh did the same thing but I didn't know that it was brothers so I got the bright idea to have as to do battle each other wow yeoman you should do this in my English class because he don't with the BEBOP so I said to hold thing up and brought them lunch period and then fleshes that's my little brother I was like what and they was like yeah man that's my brother and then from ever since that point we we we we formed a group called abandoned boys and we just are rocketing rocking school doing music and it's just spilt over into the streets and we just kept hanging title title in Dubai never broke so basically music was what initially created the bond but then not being successful immediately with the music is what basically lead you guys to be running around the streets yeah yeah get dat and You know we got to hang around each other we found it that our grandparents already knew each other and our parents knew each other right you know like so so we we have been like around each other not even life some time so then you know we just start hanging like a state overlay glaze laying flesh house that you know they would come from our house or whatnot like I said biologist grew in as we grow like I said everybody parents went through some something simple similar with that how epidemic right so you know that brought us closer right that's what made us Blah you know we never going to be like that we don't make sure we stay straight we keep our heads on straight and do this and do that hey you know that is brought us closer that isn't made the bond like and you're seeing a ton of people your age again wrapped up in drugs oh yeah everybody yeah everybody did none guys ever really got into a young age like nobody even tried it out really no matter the furthest we went and it's a long time we used to actually think smoking it was stupid really we because because we drank though so it was like why we go by Louis Bagger we go by like five forty ounces with with twenty dollars you know what I'm saying well did you know what Dan you gotta permit together but but we used to think it was stupid we didn't really start smoking weed until the ask me like when I was nineteen Damn so you said that you organized that that battle to what was hip hop to you at that point where you just hear rap on the radio did you have enough money that you could be going to the store buy tapes and Shit like that like how your love Affair Ram using gotten at that point I was a phonetic already I knew every artist there was out whether it was east coast west coast is software and even popping like that but I knew every southern office a artist bubble from the gut O boys to point blame to K- Rhino from all these people you know so I found I was I was a real student of hip hop you know since I knew everything right were you were you reading the source man I had a sore had word up I had yellow hats spin ahead every black beat everything is crazy too because it's like I know because I grew up in fucking New Hampshire that grown up in an area like that you know Ohio I would put in a sort of a similar category where it's not like a real established hip hop tradition and is like you guys were probably the idea of being successful rapper out Ohio probably stood out to you as we don't even have as possible nobody's really done this yeah exactly man we we We always knew that when somebody Eddie hurt us that that had the power to do something with us that we were going to sign we know how long ago last but we knew what it wants to wants people hurt us because people in Cleveland they they told us it was like man after they finish soon as wrapping Ablett Yo y'all y'all broke millionaires right now so somebody here that's crazy because normally I feel like when you see an artist popoff there's a period of time where nobody fucking believes and it's so hard just sort of cross that barrier of people believing that it makes sense but when you think about bone thugs and what you guys bring to the table it really was revolutionary in a lot is senses it was way more musical and melodic than almost all rap music out at the time it was you know it was revolutionary and people didn't even almost have the language to explain and what you guys were doing at that time almost probably seem to you guys like this seems amazing but we don't even know if the world is ready for it man no no because I mean we've done a talent show one time in Cleveland what am I do's home named Flossie Ross he took us to a talent show you I'm going to take the talent show man y'all y'all kill it we actually went down there to the talent show and we did we did we started off with Mister wheezy and then we started to wrap a neighborhood we gong immediately it was like get that Oriental Salad and shit like like like mid a dog I'm saying we got we got into a fight because it would have to work everything was while it was lower that's hilarious so when did you I guess we could even put it in context you guys what extents where you going to to get your music heard like what what exactly what you guys doing in terms of just trying to find any way to get acknowledged what was the path at that time you plan a lot of local shows or trying get we was doing everything we was doing everything local any local show was warned that many in Cleveland any talent show or local show that we could find to get into you know we we we it down you know always doses a day we didn't have Internet we had to stay with our ears glued to the radio station many to college station because that's what you find out about all the talent shows had had the money to get there you know what I'm saying so it was like it was crazy like we we we was doing everything and then we have met we rented to so many the people sodas dreams in the city you saying we're going to do this we don't do that we're going to raise you know people send us to the studio with we're we're fake checks man it was crazy you know what I'm saying so then we finally made this cat named Kurban Henderson who wanted to record store.