19 Episode results for "Kubo"

Spooky Survival Maps for Halloween 2020

Team Visionary

06:02 min | 3 months ago

Spooky Survival Maps for Halloween 2020

"Written by team visionary. October twenty seventh twenty twenty. Welcome back team visionary hopes. You have had a great monday so far today. We are covering some spooky survival spawns for your seasonal adventures with halloween nearby. Brings some flare into your mind craft adventures by playing the newest chilling maps. These custom maps come in all shapes and sizes ranging from relaxing too horrifying an easy to very difficult. Test your survival skills to see if you can handle your given circumstances get your spirits up and have a very enriching week. Halloween sky blocked by major fall. Love sky block. Check out this seasonal sky block just in time for this year's halloween season sky block is popular build in minecraft where you start on an isolated island with little resources. You will have to use your supplies strategically in order to build your way up in doing so. You are required to work really hard for your survival and build your way up to make it. Through another day. This themed map comes with custom textures focused to bring out spooky vibes explore this challenging math while getting competitive with your friends while you're building see if you can find a nice addition of black cats and ravens fully indulge in this. Survival spun with the full halloween soundtrack while the sun goes down. Look up to the sky to find a spooky moon. Cursed moon by mob blocks. Oh no the world had been cursed and you will now have to fight off all your former friends. Family and neighbors everyone has transformed into a scary creature. That will try to kill you. Test your skills. Nc if you have what it takes to survive the spell that strengthens in moonlight look up at the sky at night to find a creepy moon that has also impacted in the curse. Luckily there are guardians that will protect you and provide shelter for you with their support. You will surely be able to make it through another night. Mob locks has provided to free skins with a purchase of this map. So you can get into character. Lucky block scary edition by kubo studios time to test your luck. During this frightening season you have to check out this seasonal lucky block that are filled with all kinds of items. Collect your supplies in a pumpkin block to survive as long as you can fight off the scary zombies that roam around town. These undead creatures will chase you around to turn you into one of them. It gets more horrific than that with the killer clowns wandering around the dark corners waiting to eat you in this multiplayer friendly game. You will have to watch out for your friends to keep each other safe. There are over eighty different. Drop items for you to collect. That will change the outcome of your playing experience. Find all the thrilling adventures. That await you in this beautiful city. Sky blocked pumpkins by zeal. Everything is turned into pumpkins. in this theme. survival spun. You are surrounded by pumpkin sky blocks that are filled with special just for you. Use your resources to survive another day. The giant pumpkins have everything. You need to keep surviving. You are able to fly around on a magic broomstick to explore the map with ease. The castle on the hill is a must see location on this map. There is one free pumpkins skin included in this map. Halloween trick or treat blocked by pickaxe studios. Don't forget to trick or treat through the minecraft world on your halloween festivities. There are pumpkin blocks. That are showing up all around the realm and you can open it to see if you have received a trick or a treat. There is also a free skin in this map. Or you can bring your own costume with your friends. This is a great way to interact with friends. That may live a little too far to trick or treat with daunting dungeons by craft stars dive deep into the planet's core to find the dungeon castle. Go on legendary adventures to uncover all the hidden secrets here. The castle has treasure scattered around. So you can collect as you roam around. Be careful and alert of the monsters and evil guards. That might find you. You can conquer this castle by taking down all the guards and surviving through all the obstacles that lie ahead. Find your way out of this castle. Once you have collected two there are four skins included in this purchase conclusion custom. Survival spawns are always full of fun. Challenge yourself to see if you have what it takes. These maps can have different outcomes with every decision. You make explore through unique builds. That are themed for this year's halloween day start downloading and indulging in creepy adventures that trigger your fight or flight instincts whether you're looking for a lightweight game experience or an adrenaline pumping survival game style. These maps are worth looking into. All of these options are new on the marketplace and slash or fit the general theme of dark frightening survival mode. Don't play on default survival mode when you can take it up a notch for more halloween themed games. Check out our article. Many gay monday frightening minecraft many games to keep you on the edge of your seat. We discussed some thrilling many games. That are generally scary. They generally come with unique obstacles and creative goals on top of surviving. Don't forget to take a look at our friday article on minecraft maps of team visionary where we briefly go over some of our teams custom maps. We strive to make quality products that you will surely enjoy want more content the minecraft marketplaces where all of these incredible one of a kind minecraft moms are released. You can find many games. Survival spawns adventure maps texture. Packs mash up packs skin packs and more.

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5 Best Minecraft Minigame Maps for December 2020

Team Visionary

06:16 min | Last month

5 Best Minecraft Minigame Maps for December 2020

"Five best minecraft many gay maps for december. Twenty twenty written by team visionary. Hello everyone we a-team visionary. Hope that you've had a great week today. We have spectacular list of the newest invest minecraft. Many game maps of december. Twenty twenty for you guys. Minecraft is a lot of things to a lot of people for some. It's a fun and casual pastime for some. It's a career and fulltime job. Some players live for the adrenaline rush of competing against other players heated. Bloody battles others might spend their minecraft days tilling away at wheatfields and their nights huddled in cozy little farmhouses for the community of creative content creators. however this wonderful game and its flexibility is nothing less than their own personal universe a platform to build and create where the sky's the limit and sometimes not even then many game maps are the perfect example of this where content creators managed to take game based in open world survival and turn them into all sorts of creative game. Modes parker survival games peeve ep mafia based and other genres that you can enjoy with your friends without further ado. Let's get into things. Solar parker whereby waypoint studios solar park or visit the stars. And make your mark on the moon with waypoint studio. Solar parker were mini game map hop skip and jump your way through the cosmos as a brave and ambitious astronaut to chart a path that mankind has never before seen this map especially stands out with its beautifully large builds. That are sure to immerse you. Invest endless feeling of space. Each level contains loot enterprises of their own. But do be careful. Each new planet that you visit will become increasingly harder and harder to traverse and much more dangerous. Can you beat the impossible. Final level the sun. This mini game map also comes with two bonus levels the meteor and the i s. as well as to custom astronauts skins. So you can float about in space while looking the part. Find the imposter by dodo studios. Find the imposter. Just in time for the explosively popular indie game among us grand. Victory of the twenty twenty game awards find. The imposter is a deception. Based game that follows the tried and true formula of mafia town of salem. We're we will and of course among us in a huge festive and lavishly decorated town. You and your friends are thrust into match. After match of trust vitriol. And lots and lots of problem solving there is one bloodthirsty imposter hiding among you. And it's the townsfolk job to recognize the signs and sniff out the impostor before they lay waste to the holiday spirit. Of course there are also role such as the detective tools to help you eliminate the imposture once and for all and lots of presents around the map to open for loot. Grab a couple of friends and give this map. A try but be warned. Your friendship may end up in tatters. Afterwards super laser tag by pixels and blocks as twenty twenty comes and goes fun activities like paintball laser tag and going out for lunch with your friends are starting to see more and more like relics of the past. However that's not to say that you can still have a blast in game on minecraft with all your friends especially with how versatile some of these mini games are. This map itself consists of a massive laser tag map built in a dark room and decorated with tons of flashy neon obstacles. That you can hide behind while no scoping your friends take part in an action. Packed fast paced super laser tag tournament with your friends and family and emerge the champion of tag autumn droppers by giggled block studios autumn droppers. Autumn might have come and gone but it's cozy festive spirit. Lives on within this. Exciting autumn droppers map by giggled block studios twist and turn your way to victory in autumn themed map bursting with orange red and the smell of hot cocoa. If you're unfamiliar with dropper maps they involve you and your friends falling very very long distances through the and trying to avoid obstacles as you go claim victory with your reflexes and skills while your friends go splat on the blocks whizzing by you in these thirteen challenging rewarding dropper challenges this map also comes with tons of free epic skins love run by kubo studios. Love iran do you know mine mechanics like the back of your hand. Are you a god at park. Who can perfectly time. You're leaps to cross even the most impossible of then. This map is the perfect one for you. Love a run by kubo studios introduces a dynamic multiplayer. Mini game where you and your friends must compete to escape from the rising lava flow behind you all while keeping your wits about npr cowering across challenging puzzles. This map also comes with three levels of difficulty easy medium and hard so that those who want to challenge can get it but those who are a little lacking in the were department raises hand can still have a fun time. Oh and a tip from the map creators. just keep running conclusion and there we have it. Will you choose to have a fast paced brawl with your friends in super laser tag or will you slowly bide your time and put together the clues to find the imposter. These games are yours. Discover take part in and dominate with one. Will you choose to venture forth into i. As lockdown continues in various parts of the world. We know that it might be getting difficult to deal with being away from our friends and sometimes family. We hope that with these minecraft many games. You'll find the perfect one to play with your friends looking for something to play cooperatively rather than competitively check out our newest adventure maps of december. Twenty twenty for more options to play with your friends.

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5 Best Winter Minecraft Survival Maps to Kick Off 2021

Team Visionary

05:58 min | Last month

5 Best Winter Minecraft Survival Maps to Kick Off 2021

"Five best winter minecraft survival maps to kick off twenty twenty one written by team visionary. Hello everyone we a-team visionary. Hope that you've had a great week. The snow certainly coming in fast and hard in some parts of the world. We hope that everyone is staying nice and warm indoors with a nice cup of hot chocolate or warm beverage of your choice of there are also some parts of the world that aren't getting snowfall at all. Whether that's a blessing or a curse is up to you to decide but no matter what the climate is outside your window you can always slip into a comfy sweater and enjoy mary. White holiday in minecraft. Today we have a spectacular list of the newest invest winter themed minecraft survival maps to kick off twenty twenty one for you. Guys glacier village survival by g. tube crafted get dressed in your thickest winter coats. Because we're about to go treasure hunting in one of the coldest villages on earth search for hidden lewd across the beautiful large buildings and structures in a mysterious village overtaken by an endless frost and surrounded by glacial terrain. This map immediately stands out with its gorgeous detailed buildings. You can really tell that the builders went in on this one creating an immersive experience is both fun and enjoyable. There are countless interactive shops to such as a butcher mason carpenter and the like and finally the map also comes with a lovely harbor complete with ships floating in the frigid ocean. Whether you're looking for a treasure hunting experience or just to start off your new survival world a little easier. This map is perfect for you. Winter mentioned by chunk labs winter mentioned speaking of starting off your next survival world. A little easier this luxurious winter mentioned map by chunk. Labs will certainly give you and your friends ahead start in any sort of survival. Run this map provides you with a breathtaking enormous. Winter mentioned. that'll do much more than keep you and your friends warm and safe from the frosty nights not only is the mansion and its massive interior easy on the eyes. It's also fully interactive with tons of mysteries and luta find in every room corridor. Luke and cranny. The map itself also comes with a set of challenges that you can partake in. Should you choose to change up your survival experience. A little lounge about the rooms with your friends makes no goal homes in the huge yard or have a snowball fight the mansions yours to live in winter. Horror mentioned by block lab studios winter horror mentioned. Not all the holidays have to be full of mary. Joy and cheer. Get your blood pumping with this winter. Horror mentioned by block lab studios wander halls corridors and rooms haunted by the ghosts of rich nobles long past while searching for the secrets behind these crumbling walls. This pack isn't just any regular. Survival spun it comes with unique. Boss fights that'll prove a challenge to even the most veteran minecraft survival players hidden. Treasure also lies in wait for those who dare explore the horrors of the mansion. The pack also comes with a whopping eight free hd skins so that you can truly look the part while exploring this winter horror mention ski by lifeboat. Aptly-named ski by vote is certainly a unique take on survival. Spawns consisting of a massive ski resort full of rolling snowy hills of varying difficulties offering players a chance to cross country or downhill skiing. This map adds a ton of unique custom content from animations to travel mechanics. We'll try to cover them all. Firstly it comes with ten challenging ski trails. even if you're an expert at maneuvering over snowy mountains in real life you might find these hills a little challenging difficulty levels range from bunny hill to black diamond and every trail comes with unique mechanics and animations. But that's not all if you get bored of skiing. You can also go snowboarding with your friends or drive around us know mobile and enjoy the breathtaking lesley. It also comes with five free skins to keep you warm while you skiing compete with your friends to see who can get the highest scores. Lucky block winter by kubo studios lucky block winter. Of course what sort of survival map list would be complete without a lucky block map this list features lucky block winter by the talented kubo studios. Try your luck and gamble with fortune as you crack. Open the lucky block scattered around the map. Will you receive riches beyond your imagination or will the lucky blocks spell your do. This map also comes with a special edition super lucky blocks for those who are feeling especially brave. This isn't just any old lucky block. Map however t is a winter themed one after all for one it comes with reindeer's yup writable reindeers for you and your friends to gallup around the map on trade with santa and play with his elves for more sweet treats. The map also comes with a set of all new custom winter armor so you can really look the part as if all this wasn't enough. This map also comes with a beautiful winter mentioned just for you and your friends to relax inn after your rounds with the lucky blocks conclusion and there you have it. We hope that this article help you find the perfect winter minecraft survival map to kick off the new year a very happy holidays from everyone here at team visionary and we hope that you have a great start to the new year tired of the snow and looking for a more cooperative experience than just survival. Check out our newest maps of december. Twenty twenty for more options to play with your friends.

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The Hustle Of A Filipina Ecosystem Builder

Hustleshare

1:09:30 hr | 2 years ago

The Hustle Of A Filipina Ecosystem Builder

"I can I can imagine. I could imagine in my mind like how I could build something. And I think all ingineers share this, right? Like, you wanna feel great? Welcome to hustle. Share the podcast features daily grind. If unique Hosters around the world to show, not our differences. That are hustles are very much alike. Here's your host roster. Bape young. Welcome to episode nine of the hustle share podcast. My name is Ron Stor. And I am your host. If you're the show, welcome. And I'm glad you're tuning in. If you don't know what this is all about you just job here hustle. Share is a podcast that lets you improve your hustle by listening to under- hustlers. So basically, what that means is that this this show was made not to showcase or just one up each other and compare things that that to make us feel bad. No, what this podcast is all about is to make sure that we learn from each other's journeys. Whether it's a success for a mistake in what this aims to do is to make your hustle, be better. So that we can actually input. What other people have learned through our own Brian? So in this episode, very interesting because we're gonna be talking to bury very powerful woman. Her name is Katharina chance. She is a director of. Kubo philippines. And obviously a lot of startups know her, but if you don't know her she she leads an incubator technically allow startups to to thrive by providing them to assess ities that they need to launch your business or I'm talking about a co working space incubation and whatnot membership name it, and they probably have it already. What's interesting about this episode is that people know cat as a mental runs the show in cougville along with another powerful woman in tasha in her whole team along with Butch. But today what we're going to be discussing is how cap stat started her hustle from studying in the Lupien science high school most prestigious high school here. Philippines. The hardest and how she transitioned to studying the US in how she ended up going back into Philippines to start this mission. And most importantly how she was able. To contribute in saving who will. Because apparently. Almost did not happen. So if you wanna know more in you wanna know the history of cap in how will in how girl entrepreneurs and startups benign is all about we're going to begin episode right now. Welcome to hustle share episode nine again, like what I said during the past couple episodes. We're going to be highlighting really strong women international women's month. And for this episode. We have a very reputable, and then like, you know, as someone we all look to in this community because she's used to being out there, and he's helped out a lot of startups. And without further ado, of course, I said during the intro is gonna be missed cap. Chan cat will come to hustle share? Thank you on, sir. There you go. Glad to be here. Okay cap. I've always worked with you for a long time. You first of all mad props for taking Kubo to where it is. Now. I was here when it was not like this one of our first customers. Correct. And I just a little back story on that. You're you're the only one that took me in right? I was literally when I came here. And there were just like three of you here. I had nowhere to go. Because I lost my start as those like rock bottom for me as the common as high cat, anywhere. Chat bought wasn't Chapman right now. It wasn't. I still remember you as from your party filed as those stole the different, dude. Sizzler guy, you know in hindsight, but cat. Again, mad props to you because you've helped so many startups. Even just a lot of what you do especially with your leadership on were do you don't know how much value that? And again from a personal point of view without Couve. Oh chat bought would've never achieved. So this is home. This is always second home for chat block, no matter. What it is. It's funny. Because whenever I we have this thing called the daily scrum in chat bot, h well, we automate that this basically bought that asks several questions, what are you? What are you gonna do? So even your scrum meetings. You've have automated. That's cool. Yes. So at ten AM in the morning, they asked several questions. First one is what are you going to do what our projects are working on? And the most important thing is where you're gonna work and one of the options there is Schuykill on it. I've never. I mean in the same way right Kuboi exists for startups. Like you. It's literally a home, right? So I'm glad to hear that think of this as your second third fourth home away from home. It's always I feel home in essence of what you guys here. So again, what I always do in my other episodes here in hustler share. I almost shed. This is not chat bug share. Kept what's your hustle? Well, my current hustle as you've said is I lied, Google Philippines. Kubo with a Q mind you and essentially it's to kind of big parts of what most startups know about is the startup side of things, and that's all about so we're we're a public private initiative. I think that's what one thing that makes us unique and kudos all about the Q stuff. Right. So we encourage Q lab ration- we like to bring. Puns, all the puns of comedy earworm for the cues we develop the startup cume unity and startups like chat Bader one of our proud success stories, and we run an incubation program as well. So in an all of that comes with all of the different programs. You can find all of that stuff online. Quick plug dub, dub dub CU dot com. Dot ph can't stop me. But is actually everything from Cooley don's workshops the basics again, if there's a key when they're probably doing it. Then the big vision is really all about developing the startup ecosystem in the country as a whole. And you've you've been doing. I remember being part of the one of the metrics which later on. We'll do a deep dive of what's what's cool both mission behind the doors when when the blinds down, and the people the startups outside what what is it like I mean, you don't have to go to tales, but what is expected and what what what school boss mission, and what are the metrics? And all that. But before that, we have this hustle share time machine, though, we have here machine, we have it. It was born a couple of episodes ago, where we literally go back and talk about your hustle when you started your career because from what I know. I mean, we always talk about meaningful conversation, especially when cigarettes now moving those big help. But it doesn't matter. You were pretty you're an achiever early on. And you Euler just like killing it back back then. So from what I know you studied highschool and Philippine. Science high school. I did research course, sucker like, I just remember we're going that far back. So in my pre puberty or something. Okay. Yeah. That's right. So actually like, I I grew up in the Philippines. Varied I went to Philippine science high school. That's actually like a transformative time for me. I can't even imagine it. I'd be doing what I do. Now. I mean one thing about Philippine science, right? I think most people think of it is just crazy nerd school. But and that's probably a fair thing to say. I wouldn't actually consider myself a traditional nerdy nerd, but you know, what did strike me. And I think I carry with me up to today. Right. Like, Philippine science Romy represents like what a true meritocracy almost is like so I mean, I guess for people know me, I guess I kind of come from. I'm very lucky come from a privilege sort of upbringing. A relatively easy like life path through, but the hustle for you. I know a lot of privilege people, but there's not a lot of privilege smart ass mall, fucking right for you, the hustle that takes to even be qualified to go to Filipino science. You need to be crammed the la-. Cram. Very the work. Right. The end of the day. Right. Like there. It's really like. That's where you see. You're right. Where it's like it's not just about what's given to you. Or what the what opportunities you have? But it's really what you make of it. And also again like that was the time where I think I started to fall in love with the Philippines, and the real Philippines, almost we're at could see people that really worked so hard and like, HUD. The talent was there. I think the smarts were there. But like, you know, what a difference it could make if you had access a sort of opportunities been there once I remember there's this one top I did before. Some forgot who invited me over. So there's an far enough from an in the rooms hacking, see like, Dexter, laboratory stuff what kids? When I wasn't a little science. It was literally like everyone. Right. Like, you would you'd be sharing the same classes and being Bertha does with people from the province with like, you know, people coming from all walks of life. You know, it was also I came from like an old girl school. I think that's really typic-. That was like my first experience. Boy high school. Boys. Seal. Right. Like oh. My God girls. You know? I think it's really interesting for me that really changed my whole perspective on how I always. I mean, I think growing up the way I did you think your life is just going to kind of go in a certain direction. Right. Yeah. I think this really that experience really changed a lot of things for me. It also, you know, it's also competing against the, you know, the best of the best way. Funny because Earl mentioned that, you know, from from he said in the US the way they're the grading or how you're ranked is there because we're talking about percentiles just shed some light cap for those people who have no idea because you know, there's always this. This this stigma that nerds are totally different. They're usually. Two. They get they're the ones who get bullied all the time in high school, especially in a normal high school was there some mixed bag great. But for you to qualify in a Philippine science high school. What does it take and what's the hassle behi- behind because if you're a slob in elementary in really do shit, right? He didn't hustle your way. Good luck. Trying to get a feel of Philippines is what's what's the metric for you to qualify to be beside. So until at least in my time Nassir of this change. But it was really all about like how you did in certain tests like to get in. Right. So that's the that's the beauty of it. And this was something. I appreciate it. Also when I started space, and I'll get to that later. Right. It was like they didn't care who your parents were or leg. It was really just like what you brought to the table. What your grades are able playing. It was totally level playing field. And again like, I think getting into it. I guess I was kind of much were earlier on. I was partying. I was in like I don't late middle school. But you know, your priorities. They're totally different. Right. It's really just about like, what do you deliver in? What you bring to the table. You know, if you can compete, and like, we're always thinking about, you know, not just like in the Philippines, going through these representing the Philippines, and they're discolored on by like, that's something that's ingredient p criminal Kremlin. Exactly. So again like there when you're in. When when I wasn't beside didn't matter like, none of the other things matter. It was really just about like your output in like what you were doing. Right. And I think it's crazy also interesting to be an environment with other people felt the same way too. And you're you're in tribe. Did you don't get discriminated on? You're not being smart shamed. And now, it's I mean, I think it's changing right like nerds or becoming kind of cooler with all the kind of founders like you lick exiting and all of these things. But it definitely wasn't like not even a decade ago up seeing the different thing. But I wasn't considered a nerd beca. Was a jock asshole nice school? Here's a symptom. How much of a Jukka was not because I was a total day. But I graduated high school with an average conduct rate of seventy four the passing greatest seventy five isn't that? Usually like, oh, isn't that? Usually the easy thing to get the contract because I always got in trouble because I was a class clown. Always make fun of my professors and a varsity player for varsity players have totally different wired wired differently because they know that the end of the day slot play. Good one we were winning the teachers got that. Okay. I mean, just to kind of put this in perspective. It's still high school. People still did their prompt pose, and there were still jobs and things like that. But you know, again, it just sort of broadened my perspective of what was going on in the rest of the country. And I think that was pretty transformative for me, honestly, now gap from beside this is where I now want to know 'cause I have no idea. What beside where did you go to college? And how did that trickle to idea space do career? No, okay. SO from Philippine science. So in typical nerd fashion. I actually got a bunch of scholarships to upn at the all these things. But honestly, I always kind of I guess. I don't know I make life difficult for vice. I wanted to say, yeah, I wanted to study abroad. So. Yeah. So I actually attended Uni Carnegie Mellon University in the US. So that's where I ended up like, you know, there was a point where I was just deciding where I wanted to school. But a big part of me really just wanted to also see how I could develop on my own as a person right move away from home. You know, that was my first independent. Yeah. And then and I mean as much as I love like my beside classmates. So you're required to do an engineering degree or no, stem course, right now. So I don't have again, there's some I don't even know this, right? But there's some Kowa thing where if you don't do it like they make you sign this contract when you're a kid. Yeah. You're going to do that you're going to pursue a career in the sciences and things like that. So so inevitably if I'd gone to UP, which is where most people from go like. I don't know like most of your classmates, he'll probably know like at least half of them. So I just felt like oh, so I wanted to change. Sure. And I guess from a logistics perspective. So at the time parents lived super close at the Neo and you'd be like that goal area. I just way too close to home. Bitterly picked like the farthest goal. Most. Right. What was that? Like. So a lot of Earl shed a little bit of light of how that was like when he studied B you now from college one of you were you said, you're you're pretty comfortable here. And now, you're alone where you're totally alone. How is college like from the studies point of view, how the competition different? And then how is the coping side different as being a student in the states. I mean, I loved it. I mean, I think it's because I wanted it right leg. There's a. So I mean to answer your question, basically, I moved out there completely by myself. Yeah. I didn't have family in that part of the US. And I think that was that was all intentional again. I really wanted to have the full college experience. I mean, I wanted to validate lick know what I see on TV the Greek parties our meal, so. So yeah, I lived by myself. I mean, we were acquired to kind of stay in the in the school the you need like freshman year. But then after that, I moved out like this like cool loft apartment with my friend. All yeah. So. Yeah. So in terms of the competition, though, was that was totally different. Right. Like, I think. I do I say this. So first of all I was only like fall like fresh off the boat Filipino in my in my year. I think if I don't mistake in right? So there weren't that many be noise. True. It wasn't like I was in the community or anything like that. There were lots of like end Chinese Korean immigrants Vulcan pot. Yeah. But no, not so many noise. Right. And I felt I did I did feel like I had something to prove to represent. You know, like I say this a lottery, but I- whenever I say, I'm from the Philippines, like association is always in my view, it's not negative necessarily. But I feel. Like, I feel by that. When people think of Philippines, it's a positive association. But it's never about something. That's like about being excellent at somebody. Yeah. It's it's I mean, it's like about our singers, and our are or are, you know, or like, my my nanny was Philippine a-, and I really bonded with her that sort of, but it was hardly ever about like. Oh, yeah. Like, be noise are really smarter rocketed at this particular field or my boss was like seem seem till now in business rate. I often get this Singapore, again, I'm just trying to sweet experience like Filipino. Some while you're catching up they're also going to be talking about their helpful which happens to be fulfilling their society. Like, I'm proud to be here with that sucks at my Cup of by always there's almost shock grades. How do I like when I say, I'm from the Philippines. I'm doing XYZ. Like, oh, you're from the Philippines. I didn't know people in the Philippines. We can do this. And I'm like, yes. Of course. There are so many smart amazing though. So there I'm sure it's it's usually well intentioned. It's not like, you know, they're hating on it or any. But for me that was definitely something that I was quite conscious of like when I was there. And then of course, it's tough. Right. I think here I was kind of. I mean without trying too hard. I feel like it was okay. Like, I did pretty well. Like there it was again, you're competing again when the whole different like from. Students hailed from lake every country. Imagine sort of thing and the night. I I was taking on like I was doing a double major engine up. If you don't move you. Never I double majored in materials, engineering and business. I was actually doing a couple of minors too. But then I just really wanted to like have more fun. I guess so. Of course. Yeah. So that was kind of like just like the mental load of like doing all that. But still like again, really important to me offensive college experience. So, but I mean that wasn't easy. Right. I mean, looking back Nalic sort of laugh at it. But definitely like, you know, being by yourself like having the score slowed and doing all this stuff. Like, you know. That's hustlers. Absolutely. Be responsible for decisions that you make you manage your time. And again, having double majors at the same time have fun at the side. Right. Those totally different thing. Now, what was the what did you come back after college? What did you come? I came back like four. I mean, I would come back for like vacation or things like that. Right. So right after college. I was I mean long story short. I was I was working and things like that. But I was also thinking about like, a Anita prayed love kind of moment. I was tired, right. Like I'd done it. So. Anyway, like a couple of things, right? So basically, I came home for Christmas. I think or one of the holidays, and it was it was kind of jarring to me like what I'd miss it. It was almost like I saw how many Kriens there were. I think on Ed said that was like the moment that it clicked for me. Right. Was like holy crap. Lake stuff's happening here, right? You could say shit. Whatever. No. Yeah. So I was I was shocked, right. Like, you know. I think there's always this sort of mentality. It's the grass is always greener kind of stuff, right? And like the run the wall everywhere. I could like it's not it wasn't just like the numbers showed it kind of thing. But it was like I could physically feel and see it right was palpable. The and the other thing was like I was I was I was deliberating. Right. If I wanted to work in the US or Europe or the whatever right like. And honestly, those kind of tough in the US at the time. Right. That was yeah. Financial crisis. I was kind of session I done my internships in this sort of banking side of things. So I was definitely thinking like entering that industry was definitely kind of tough, right leg. I don't know. Like, I got this sort of sense. Also that like, you know, it's not true now unemployment there's really good. But back, then it was like, you know, you're taking away jobs from like local people who are you like getting a visa was like I like being noise struggled with this whole visa issue. But so I had like I think all graduate from like, a a Quant course or something you can you can work in the US for like two years. Right. So. But that's it after that. You're like perpetually sort of begging for an immigrant. Yeah. Like, please employ me. Right. Unlike whereas here like I mean, it's the typical millennial answer, right? Like, I could make stuff happen here. You know, like, and I'm yeah. I don't have to. I don't have to surprising. I got too big for you to give me a job. I can I can I can imagine. I could imagine in my mind like how I could build something. And I think all engineer share the astray like you want to build stuff and the opportunities are there. Exactly. So now Gatling quick break. We'll be discussing. What's that thing that you wanted to build? What was the next of this? All right. Tell us that after the. He the ace like what you're hearing. So far, if you do please, don't forget to show, some love and subscribe to hustle share on your favorite podcast app. You can listen to us and Spotify. I tunes Google podcasts. And all the other major podcasts apps. Also, if you wanna get in touch with us suggest the next Hustler's wanna hear in the show, please do messages on our chat on messenger. Just search hustle share or go to 'em dot me slash associate powered by Chatto age. And lastly, if you want to know more about the details in resources we discussed during each episode, please go to our show notes app hustle, share dot com. Cool. All right back to the show. Welcome back from the break. We're silhouette catch cat. How you doing? So really good. All right. So again, we under first part. We took took you all the way back to the time machine. We're going to go to this. Absolutely. Because that's what we do. I mean, we have the hustle shared time. He actually probably trademark. Are properly. How how does that alleged Lorient and everything like probably I'll probably be tesla. So it's like a renewable renewable right? He green and more twenty-first-century DeLorean would be probably cocky as hell right now. Right. Mardi would flies all the ship. Right. So okay cat. What you before the rate, you you said that your hustle free work pre work and pre joined back to the full apiece. So now, you're back. How did you transition? What was your first job? And how did you transition Tonelli go into idea space? So actually like ideas space was one of the first volunteer gigs that I did Wallin I was fallen tear their lake when it was brand new. They didn't have an office or anything. So Earl who I believe you've had on your God cast right episode forgotten something? So I think yeah. So he actually kind of factors into the story. Right. So I was looking for cool stuff to do on the sights on my first job, very briefly. When I was back. I believe it was. So I worked with an enterprise software company. I knew right away that I didn't want to kind of. I mean, the reason I came back was to build some. So I didn't want to be like a call in giant machine. If I was going to do that. I'd be better paid doing it somewhere else. So there was a company that they built software, but essentially like even though I was kind of early out from college. Like, I connected with founder of that company or and essentially I had a role. So they were doing a lot of bespoke software development worker of enterprise stuff. Like, I think that our clients included like NASA. Yeah. It was like it was like legit stuff was all being built by Filipino software. Engineers and being yeah. Being sold like around the world. But i'd. If I could talk about it. But that company. Ex. Yeah. And essentially, but what they what they wanted to do. And like this. I connected with CO. Like, my what we were thinking of doing and building right was like, how do we take all of this knowledge and kind of turned into products that we can sell his company. Right. So it wasn't just building stuff for other people anymore, but truly productized being right? And they never done that like ever. So I was the person me and like it was super small team. We were like three or four people essentially that the new vanguard of like creating like seeing what we had and it's hard. I mean, I'm trying to we were trying to do that. Which beach today we want to be able to rescue that product to help to help disaster relief and whatnot. Sixteen. But now when win client stockpile, there's higher stakes. You don't want to disappoint client. Absolutely manpower is few and far between you don't wanna be. Like you best come here. We're on this balancing, the cash cow is and what he no work. You know, how much we invest in this like, you know, new thing that we're trying to do. Right. So a hypothesis at the end of the day because it's not just like when you build a product. We'll start selling itself, it's a whole nother business venture you have to put a product product manager in their proper validation. And whatnot. So I mean, I definitely definitely felt like a big kind of software family vary. But at the same time like I was working directly with the CEO. It was like, and I'm glad like I've actually had a dinner recently with some of the people I was working with my first job yet. Like, they were telling me that basically they're still doing it like some of the products of kind of conceptualize that the time, right? And it was my first real job like not like X month, internship or super like you're really the grind. Actually, like, I think their youngest employee of the quarters through all of those like h r kind of team building stuff so but any, but that wasn't really like in the startup space. I started in the startup space in the Philippines, at least kind of doing that on the side. So I met earl-. And he was like, you know, hey, like, and I was I was looking for like what the sort of community was in the Philippines because around the time. I was. Like, I'd left the US right or decided that's normal there. Yeah. The cool thing there. Right. Like, my smartest friends were like, you know, especially the engineers, right? All moving to Silicon Valley. They're starting their own companies. It wasn't cool there to go to like the multinationals and stuff. That's not the is just sort of like trying to figure out like what the scene was like here. And I was like connecting wasn't even that's right. And like the US alone clubs and things like that. So I got connected with Earl like someone like, yeah. For my. I think I can remember I think it's like my mom's friend, also or like mentioned to me like one of those conversations like, you know, like there's this new guy like working smart and he's like Sukhum Loudon. Engineer, blah, blah, blah, and like Intech Anna's and are interested to like meet up. I mean, I don't know. I can't remember exactly when and how I met earl-. But he basically told me like, hey want to kind of work or volunteer at the white sea of the Philippians. And. Yeah, that's that was Fitch. Like, I remember like I thought it was like, oh, I see the Philippines, right? And I show up to my first sort of volunteer day slash session. And it was like empty office. Like, no one was there like the chairs were broken. It was like totally. This lake real getting Jim like punk, you know. And then and then I remember I spoke with early spoke with Diane. Oh, then you volunteer. Who's also like so flow like you ask. But it was just like a side thing. I was doing what is did not meet your expectations for how like a startup not. All right into definitely wasn't a Wiessee of the Philip. And it was the first, and they were just launching the very first call for applications for like, the international national started up competition. Earl mentioned this in that episode three that few is like into first one. He didn't the first Paul for applications like less than a couple of dozen and then he had road show. Yeah. He got people. Right. It was. So that was like a I mean a big part of what I did. Also, as volunteer was kind of mobilize this first competition like everything cutting flyers, you know, like doing the roadshow, right? And I mean, I. Still again, it was it was fine right to sort of do some of the startup events and all those early rate the fridge things, but at the same time geeks beach, but at the same time it was also like he. He. But at the same time, it was I was I think it became real for me when we close that I start of competition because it was like seven hundred or something six hundred something applicants like this surreal there again, it's like it. Brought me back to like my days. Right. Where it was kind of like there are people out there. They're just looking for an opportunity to do something. Right. Like they. Light. Yeah. Exactly. And with the road show was it was very high touch, right? Like like, they had to see you that the trust you like that was all part of it. Right. So but at the same time, right? The hicksville icy of the Philippines, sort of behind the scenes perations, actually, look. Yeah. So much better. It's totally legit now. But like the first time like I came to the door. Like it was like I thought I was being punked for. Earl you've got them Earls Earls ability to pitch. Yep. Oh, okay. So from idea space, how did just obviously and Earl mentioned this during the last Google Mita bright coup bowl is their son or daughter of ideas speed. Plus some other co parents per state. They did Kubo come to life for the idea who and how were you the one chosen to lead? This new new try try from the nomadic like we settled down with the fertile crescent. And now shoot. Make. Yeah. So I I joined ideas space full-time actually is subseque-. So I was volunteering for sure time. But like, I guess I love doing it also. And this time I was it was very tight knit family. Like, you're building something. I definitely felt like I was building something there. I could see like that turning into not just it wasn't just like a sort of casual movement was becoming an industry. And. Yeah. And I think one thing was also like it's I really believe that sort of enabling virement make such a huge difference. Like when you think about like, Amazon and Google and apple things like they're all started by like one or two people. Right. And I don't think they're particularly special people. They also happen to be in a place where something is like accepted or can thrive police ripe time, and I wanted to also happen in Philippines. Right. But anyway, I I was I ended up like eventually joining ideas space full-time, like sometimes I think was twenty fourteen. They were way more legit than so it was it doesn't. You had a proper office. Cheers, like Nutricia conference room and everything. So and and a team, right? So I joined them to head their biz growth and strategy kind of vaguely defined job. But you know, but the same time I think that's true for most startups like everyone's wearing. Yeah. But but the main kind of the key deliverable for me was how to like bring partner Zene to like get people to kind of work on the ecosystem cited wasn't necessarily working on the kind of awareness working with the startups like building the ecosystem. Right. And I think I have I've had a lot of conversations we've at the time it was early in the team right about how do we really kind of blow this up like ideas face like, we were peaking at like thousands of after Haitians. But at the end of the day like at any given year, we could support, you know. A it was a stretch. Like, maybe thirty right. Right. But for this to diligently be like a country thing that could make the difference at the all wanted right? Like it needed to be like a national program. You know, so it was like sort of early conversations around it. I think that was the inspiration behind what Kuble is now. I guess, but so we started like just. Pitching to anyone. Who would listen rightly? Yeah. So let's have a national vision program. You know, like we were working with a few things Magna Carta to being talked talked to moan, and they were like real Filipino nation. All these things, but it's connect I think, you know, the different parts of government didn't necessarily like understand the start up the way we understand it. Right. It's either it's an SME like any small business start up or like any research or invention is a start up, right, depending on who you talk through. So a lot of it was also just kind of getting that idea out there. But I. A turning point. Really was APEC APEC was hosted Manila like when Obama was here. Yes. Link shot. So I think that made it click for a lot of people. I don't necessarily know on their side. How it happened? Right. But from what I know like some of the government people, especially in some kind of leaders, even the private sector, the CEO summit people. Right. They got exposed to like what? A foam more, right? Like what other countries were doing? And like, why don't we have this? I also guy. So was there. Narrow check line. That's crazy. Yeah. And I to beat a startup when I saw here. Representive kill. Oh. And she wasn't. She wasn't idea. Space story, we met her at a boot camp lay in Dongo's. So the first touch point. Anyway, was there. So I think it started to you know, we've again, we just keep talking to ever listen. But maybe I think that definitely catalyze something sort of clicking for people. Right. Where it's hard to make sense what we were talking about. And. Yes, so it sort of started a snowball from there. Right. So finally, boom, big bang happy. Boom, 2016, right? But at the same time, it was an election year. So there was like fear that like every everything that we'd been working towards was just gonna fall apart. And hey did. Right. So I think that's what. What was that? Like, you said you sit follow Pella parties and election precedential. So everything's in government per se. So this is a coup boy is a partnership between DOS STO. S T O S T DTI from the public sector, and then idea space, of course, and JP-morgan mortgage. So everything government side in terms of appointment can be coterminous dependents. Those were all like, these weren't like senators or anything, right? We were working with executive branch people and an election year could just kind of that. Snap. Boom. Right. All Badische ING away because levers in the executive branch majority time the appointees are detained by the president. And this wasn't necessarily like. You know, it wasn't like a people issue in as much as I really believe that this having started up an opportunity for anyone to be able to succeed. I don't think it's necessarily seen that way by the broader public, right? It's not like. A feeding program or something we'll get high priority in election year. You know? So. Yeah. So I don't like a lot of people know this. But Kubo was initially invis- envisioned a slave massive center in Manila like Intramuros. It was like and the whole vision was it was going to be this like CD redevelopment seen was insane. The very centralized kind of at thought. I mean that was one of the things that got fan knows. I think like election year. Like, yeah. Like, we're not having more stuff in Manila. Right. Like the whole idea. It was actually it wasn't even cold Google. I can't remember like what the studies that we went through like dozens of names and things like that. But eventually when we found out what you were going to end up with. So the sort of hail Mary does like the project was going to get killed. Yeah. And Earl was gone, by the way that happened this if so you were Tony stark, technically, you're the one. Laughed right? It's endgame now. Cats. I'm gonna give up the time shown, but you're the only one left to really pushes through in. No way was like, you know, it wasn't like I chose. I'm pretty sort of private. I just want to get the work done kind. Of course in right? Like, I wasn't super steak at a personal note. I mean, I think I still love what I do. And I still see the difference when I making I feel like wild. That's still true. And I still love it. I'm going to keep doing it. Right. But there were definitely times when I was like down, right? Like like. Like, everybody left the bail and left leg. Every people bailed. Right. Like, Earl bailed, the space was gone. Like we had to kind of start from scratch in terms of what exactly were doing. I mean. I can't be grateful enough right to the people that have sort of stuck at through with in this whole process. This is the Domino's to start. The buck starts with you guys your home, a lot of startups who are here, we'll probably every single dollar or every single pestle that we get to save and be surrounded by the people that were here for that has so much value. Right. And if if you do not exist if you did not fight, or at least pursuit or pushed Tony stark dearly than this wouldn't have happened in behalf of startups. Thank you. Appreciate that super outcomes. Totally worth it. Lake cat is our hero. So we should put a statue out there. And actually, that's all right. But I mean, you know, if if you if you want to give back like that's paid for version to the startups and like make bigger like the vision for Google is always that there'd be. I mean, the vision two point when it became the coup bull as opposed to the original working title was like the national innovation hub. Of philippines. Too long. I great now. It's. Cutie Kuebler like maybe you can start your own coup. Good. It should be everywhere. And again, I wanna thank you on a personal again. Because this is the only place where people you call people cuties. Right. And nobody s indoor color me up yet. That's not an adjective. Right. Like like, I think the Kuba like we're all verse team. We don't take ourselves too seriously. Although we do serious work. I'd like to thank know we wanna be different. We want to be working with startups not sort of towering over them kinda. Right. So I think that's what being cuties all about also. Okay. No capitalistic another quick break. Now when we come back. Let's talk about how you built it from Kubo now getting to here, and how you Bill your team, and we're talking about hustle tips for startups who need to hear it because cat is involved in so much. And then lastly, we're also going to be talking about what's what's in it for them. What what what is expected to do? So that it's a win win situation. We do our shit startups. Maybe also help cat achieve her metrics. All right. More of that. After. Effective automation is the best way for businesses to stay competitive. And having a chat bought for your business. That's easily automate and optimize sales marketing and costumer service in the digital age. Chat PGE who build train maintain and market your child. Lot across all messaging for our team uses the latest technologies enable you to better serve customers. Twenty four seven three sixty five. Set a meeting with us today. Message is now at M dot MEES. Lash chat bought PA. And we're back from the rate. We're still with catch an cap. Thank you for too crazy, fine still getting goosebumps. I didn't know it went that bad with cool the blueprints and everything bloom than kind of seven. That's how we got. Tony stark cat, lady lady. I like that. So good ring to it. Okay. So let's shed some light burst. So Google now board finally you're here. But you're Tony's aren't you didn't have a team. But before we do that before you talk about how you built that team in Wardha standards. You look for what's the metric you guys. Look, we all know what startups fucking. No, we need to achieve to be successful. But we all know that I need you guys who are listening to the spot yest- understand that cool bowl is not. It's not something that just give into us. It's a privilege that we have this to succeed. We don't know that again, it can be again from to make it work needs to be a win win situation. And by doing that, we need to understand what's what this poobah need to achieve. So that we need the wins. What? Tuck now captors four horsemen, right? This not the death life, not at the not the Pakalitha creation of startup land. In coup bull land. What's expected of you guys to consider or at least a yearly metric to to to make this work. I mean, I like all our founding partners came in like with their own expectations for how the CVS going. But I think everyone is motivated by shared vision or sort of the the belief in the potential of the Philippine startup ecosystem. Right. So I think our role of school Bullock is create that enabled environment. So to speak, right. Like, we want the ecosystem in the Philippines to be worth something like we need. It's really the startups job like this is all for you guys. But also you have to take it on in terms of flake making bigger legs. So their success is based on our shit. Yeah. Exactly. Moderate up. The year or two or whatever Kubo's onto means. Numbers of beach. Right like, but all of it grew voles around how well are the startups doing, right? And those metrics roughly what what do they expect? So what do they what we do? What do we need to do to help? I mean, just keep building companies guys essentially things that you're looking at or like how much money's being invested into the ecosystem. You know, how many jobs are being created like how are you guys? Like, you know, it's all about thinking bigger to right? Like, you know. Thinking of how many Filipino products are actually out there like, you know, making a difference in the world. So our tagline is Filipino startups. Changing the world, that's. Cheesy. Right. But at the same time, it's like we believe there's absolutely no reason why there can't be like a unicorn or product that's changing the game. That's coming from there. Yeah. And you know, like, we're going to do our part to make sure that like things aren't stopping you from achieving that. But the end of the day, you still have to kinda grab the opportunity as the founders again, I wanna do credits you guys at least with chat about a small win without Cubal with that would have never ever ever happen, Hank you so much. I mean, it's always encouraging. I love hearing you say that it makes all of this sort of hustle stuff worth it. When you hear that you've made a difference in like the start of. You didn't just change the life of my team, whoever. But you changed my life. I'm pretty fucking like I have so much stuff. Now that eight years of Ryan all made it worth it losing a startup in. Now, it wasn't a your journey, right? Like about how you learned. And I don't know. I think it's also a big part of like our what we're trying to achieve at Google is also just make the ecosystem bigger, I think when we started out like a few years ago there were a few of us. It's always the same people. Right. But you know, you talked about the four horsemen, I guess, but the idea's really to have a whole kind of stampede right leg to have more institutions, people individuals and also like big groups kind of. To really make nego system. Right eagles. This isn't just like a random kind of raising a child. Raising start startup it takes a village to raise a startup and I needed help I needed opportunity. So LA teams like, oh, there's a pitch year. Why don't you pitch and whatnot? And then eventually the wind and snow vase. So thank you for that. Now on two things that I'm really curious on because again aside from creating this you can't do it a low vendors team, you were able to assemble a really exceptional T moas that about and you're still looking for more vendors at the moment. True. We are creating cuties now. So yeah, absolutely. Like, there's no way anyone can do can really grow alone. Like, I think these sort of started on. I think we gotta talk about this you start out like being kind of like a running back or song like you're grabbing fucking ball. I'll go. But then if you really want something to fly you need to kind of eat step back and be the Q V. Czeslaw on right up. People win to set yourself up at position to win and grow. Right. So maybe I'll do a different. I'll be a different avenger the silent. Nick fear, director of some so action the. That's it's not just about being the ironman Reiner lead. But it's about like bringing exceptional people in. I think again the cuties are pretty young team. So it's a lot of investment in kind of you know, we hire. Like, we're one of a few people like literally higher fresh grads in cuties judy's. I honestly I don't hire for like job description. I look for people that have cliche it again. But I like people are smart that I feel like I have a conversation with them, and the and also people that can sort of articulating what they're passionate about or what they care about. Right. So I think it's important that you want to excel and leg do your best that something, and that you care about what you're doing and people that are it's not even if you're not like super experienced or skilled at like one specific theme, you know, that like, you know, in the startup world, like you're doing something, you don't know. What's? To happen to three months from now. Right. So you should be kind of game to kind of do something else. But still have that energy and sort of Pasha lying. A ball of energy and enthusiasm. And I think personally when I hire also try to look for a team that's very different from the I think that's sort of. I think that's. And even if I'm a young leader myself, and like, I know that like, you know, sometimes I full short, maybe mentor is a leader. Like, you know, you're always questioning but the like M I providing like right now Shuna dis and support for my team. Right. But at the same time, it's also like letting your team kind of figure things out and shine on their own I experienced this when I was still like kind of not in the leadership role. But it was it was a big break for me in a way that you know, I was allowed to do this scuba, right? Like kind of figure it out for myself and like suffer through it all make mistakes make mistakes at the same time know that like there's someone that's got your back at the end of the day. It's okay. It's okay. But you should go for it. You should try going. So I think that's it's the same thing with a team. Right. Like, you know, people that want to do stuff like and my role is kind of let them. Do it like give them the space kind of coach correct now kep you are filling positions out. So again, she gave you a really good hint. So if you're listening to the doing the Google team and be a Cutie what what what positions are trying to fill at the moment. So we're basically we're looking for like a team to help us with our incubator development program. You just got this like project with a DOS T. So I don't know if you guys know this, but there's like around the country. They're incubators like physically up already, boom. Right. And again, you're talking about like a national movement. Right. So our I mean informally we're trying to cool is it spread the gospel vandalize the rest of the country able to do that need to be on the ground right leg talked about the roadshow everywhere last year. Like have you traveled twelve CDs, and the I don't know two months or something, but we want to have a more permanent presence everywhere. And we need cuties the kind of help us grow out. What we're doing? And make sure that know. Oliver incubators or sort of performing like five star hotel love satellite. Yes. So basically like, you know, it's all about sort of programs and people are interested in building use shit like, you know, and working with start ups. Right. That sounds like you, then like super wanna talk to you. If they want to apply where do they go? On our Facebook on our website like their social online channels right like free to be able to submit and also send out an Email to us. Okay. Now, this one Kubo Cutie that I want to highlight. And I've been wanting to supposed to join this podcast personally. Personally, she got sick. So tasha get Wilson. Here's one thing that I you you you and tasha. So if your iron man, she's captain miracle, or if your iron lady, she's cap marvel, you guys are very strong opinion women, and to be honest with you on a personal level whenever I'm out there. Scared a living shit out of me like I don't wanna fuck with. Nope. Nope. Run. You're an asshole. But you can't fuck with these. All right. These ladies are dislike the epitome of confidence, and you know, your shit at a very young age or both younger than me. Right. But I'm curious about how Natasha fit into the picture she fit in. Well, and she wasn't here from the start. But when she came in like bull perfect fit and how you make that that dynamic word in relation to international women's one. Because again, I don't and they say a lot in startup land. There's still good imbalance that women don't get to leave. But you guys are like spearheading this fucking movement with you in her. How does that work with you in tasha? And how did she help you guys out because you guys are very strong women? And I'm pretty sure they're going to be times where you guys are going to be conflicting and whatnot. We make it work in college. I mean as action I joke a lot about how were basically the opposites of each other in so many ways. Right. I mean, she's. Paul. I'm not. Yeah. They don't wanna be the picture league. Like, I'm not standing beside. You look like a bucking midget. And she's very extroverted. I tend to not Blake B Alabi. Yeah. And I do want to give a quick shout out also to Butch mail the. Like, I think this real Nick fury. He's real exterior. And you know, it's like that. He's also given the confidence for young women like us to again run with it take the lead. But so yeah, I mean tasha joined the team like relatively early on. High-profile? Everybody knew she was Graham what she was able to do there. I remember like she she was. A speaker like a startup grind or something. That was the first time. I like. Some of my ideas space. Call leagues were hosting these startup grind events. Like, she was one of young women to watch out for things like that. So I'd heard of her, but like I was actually surprised to see her application. So she just like everyone else for the for a job. Right. And I was looking for an operations oriented person. Got there. Yeah. Exactly like someone like operations, but not like an old school factory way. But in a startup setting like who unders and one thing that I remembered from the first time, I met Natasha was like how she was. She was also talking about it lick how their office had broken chairs or something and it resonated with you can deal that you can deal with an environment. When it's still unclear and big you how it's gonna turn out or where it's going to like what you're just lying ability freight like a little bit of crazy belief slush a desire to execute. So. So yes, she's very different from Utah SHA. The, you know, I'm I'm more of like a vision like future kind of person. Like, I wanna think bigger right like national program. But like, hey, you wanna national program? But what do you have in real life is like two employees, and like a space, you know? So so I think when I met like when when we started talking about like, what her role would be right. Like, I could tell right away that she was like she was going to be able to kinda ground. What we were doing actually kind of get the train to start on hold people accountable and still hold people accountable. Right. Like, I mean, she's a get it done. I'm more of like a perfectionist kind of person. You know, there are so many aspects we're different. But I think you know, I think I people ask sometimes where it's like I'm not threatened by Tosh or like whether physical. Weekly or other. But it's the honest answer is no, right. Because it's like, I I see I recognize the areas where I need help. And you know, or where? Where I'm different right? And I was really looking for someone that would be complement complementary to like what again important things like there's a shared vision that the end of the day were old going the same same direction. Yeah. And like, you know, none. None of this would be happening. I think if not for the Faulk, but you know, we got this team together with Natasha specially also credit work credit is absolutely year guys run this. Well, I mean, I cannot like we started. We like our first couple of open house as or whatever it does. Like now, we do over one hundred programs year lay like hats off to Natasha and making sure that hopping straight. So you guys you to like what does that like you make this look easy to be honest. But at the same time, I think we know where each of us like Heiser, strategists mutual respect, and there's Abby. Absolutely, I believe. So and that's so important. That's that's correct. Now, let's talk about the other side of the fence. So we now know what's it like for you guys the four horsemen have their metrics. So basically to cut it short. We just gotta do our ship startups. If you're listening to this, you gotta learn and grow right grill, your business, don't be afraid to ask for help to be honest Hugo's there, and you don't know the type of resources that they can actually help you pointed to the right direction, and we want to help exactly. But that's a thing. You have to you have to ask me are not going to run the business for you have to do it. Right. Like you have to take that step. I can't remember how many times fucking bug you for shit. Captain shit. Like, you know, Scott to be about it not culet sorry about that right now. Tasha? I mean. This section or cat or they'll cat Santosh. Tasha? Yes. Hopefully by the Siamese ready. Good cat from from pointed the startups, you can't really discriminate. You're you're open. Everyone win. What is what what's still missing? I mean, you've been exposed to so many. I mean, there's different stages people. That's been there done that several times in just to sum it up in order for startups to succeed won't be your tips for them to take that next jump from idea to you'd run the whole gamut right idea all the way to. Yeah. Right. So what what what at least in tips? And what can you share? What would you suggest that they do in the light of Kubo? So that they can actually take advantage of it. We got us all the time link what's missing in the ego system. Right. And like, you know, there's some argument for it's a funding issue and leg. People can't afford to take risks or quit their day jobs. Kind of thing. Some people think there just aren't enough, and I sort of do ascribe to this view little bit. Like, you kind of you need that density to be there. Right. Like, it's still very much probability game like a low like Lucknow's a lot to do with things. So I think again to the extent beacon try to ease that transition to help you take the leap and just do it. Like, there's no way are going to know unless you try right? But like, I guess my advice for founders at are ready. They have already decided to take that bright. This is super SimpliSafe. But you just need to go for it like the need to leave jump into. I mean, you need to work hard, right? Like you need to and you need to work smart. Also like you need to commit right? Like, I think. A lot of what I'm seeing is missing is. We don't really have a founders that are thinking kind of bigger already or like thinking of and really doing and taking the steps, right? Like a going through the rejections pitching their products building it out, right? It's always sort of. I hear a lot of excuses. Sometimes like why we haven't launched yet. Why were not like fundraising? But at the same time, it's like you'd have to do it. Right. And like you need, and you need to learn from that process. Like, we talk a lot about like how important is sort of validates and get out there. But there's no way to know unless you you take the leap braid. So you've got to keep pushing to keep pushing. And you know, if that pushing leads you to the conclusion that, hey, I'm doing something wrong, or this is not gonna work out. Like also, make the clean brick stop doing it. But you're not gonna know if you're in limbo. And I think that's that's. That's a big way to describe like how our ecosystem the Philippines is in general, right? Like, we're sort of in the mo- people are holding their breath, wading leg. Make Philippine second largest market after Indonesia like all this talent what's gonna happen of. Yeah. But like it's not like it's not about just waiting and hoping that all the demographic sweet spot things workout, right? You have to grab it. You have to do it and potential means nothing. If work does not come in realize that ship, absolutely ideas are cheap execution as everything right now. Cap any last words for for for women? I mean, you you just a couple days ago or a couple of weeks ago with AMC with girl boss or the women's founder our startup in is be nice limits on. Yeah. So if you're a female startup founder, you can sign up for that so quick Klug. But but no, yeah. You know, it's it's really I re there's still a huge again gap between like. How many women are out there? Right. And I'm not going to be the person to say like it's easy to be a lady in this industry or trying to be a leader. Right. Like, I I can think of all the time where like, you know, it's either you're too passive in. Which case everyone thinks you're like the secretary. Where's your boss right to the other version of this, which is like your to bid, she and leg, whatever? Right. Like, there's no way to get a great. And I mean, I can imagine. And I'm I'm not like a mom. I don't have a family, but you know, like whole other like set of expectations that you can never meet, right? But like, you know, again, it's about just running with. What's there? Like, I think what I've learned is. In this whole kind of journey writers. It's not you can't wait for people to sort of give thanks for things to just work out or hope that it works out. You just have to kind of start doing it and like deal with it. The today not this not discount the value of having a long-term vision. But you have to do something. Right. And like, you know, my ugly kind of office. The three things or the things that you had on paper that the proposals your all your frustrations, right? Like that's still going to happen. But you're not gonna move forward. Unless you actually, you know, take you. Take it take these opportunities. So you gotta move to move. Right. I mean, of course, on let's all support each other over, and that's what I like about the women movement. Sometimes. Abby mentioned this the girl. Boss move in the cheese advocate, as you know, you just gotta hold each other's hand. Like, walking, through empathy is very powerful. You're going with. It's not about sort of taking each other down or like being threat. Like, I don't know. It's been I think the sort of boys club in is pretty kind of well established as a thing. But like there's nothing wrong also with a Girls Club and also boys and Girls Club. But at the same time, it's about finding a community that is supportive of what you're doing. And you also alike being supportive of others and leg helping other people succeed, right? It's an Hon. It's kubo. That's our whole thing. Unfortunately, as much I wanna ask you more questions that at a time. But cap least invite them over with your new stuff in cougville, and how can they? Be part of the cume unity here. And so everything is here for you. Right. You and by you. I mean startups to sign up, so please, go to dub dub dub, Kuba dot com dot ph. It's all free to sort of end. That's the first step to be part of the cume unity and join this movement. So thank you so much on their Capriati it again, I had last talking to you this covering of the stuff that we never got. Never got to talk about this. But again, it's a pleasure. Having you on the show. I hope you had fun. I did also share and I'll see you guys next. So.

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Zidane a happy man as Neymar stays in Paris but no Pogba, Mariano turns down move, Brahim Diaz turns down Milan.

The Real Madrid Podcast

09:28 min | 1 year ago

Zidane a happy man as Neymar stays in Paris but no Pogba, Mariano turns down move, Brahim Diaz turns down Milan.

"<music> welcome back everybody to the rail madrid of podcast. Now don't forget you can catch up with all of the previous episodes of the podcast via the website w._w._w. Hugh w dot round the drip podcasts dot com and you can give your views and opinions on all things madrid related by simply clicking the podcast laying on the website and then clicking clicking record messages that simple you get a minute to tell us what you think of everything to do with real madrid we will pick up all the good ones packaging together and put them match in upcoming episodes undecided the transfer window has now closed name and talk about stay with their respective clubs outcome the recrimination what has happened to the french revolution the meteor of being asking being where the views at once a game madrid of spent lavishly in the transfer market and still find themselves with a set of problems unsolved out of first-team squad relying mainly on players already there questions ost include. Has there actually been any revolution since z. Dan returned was what's the three hundred and five million years they spent on kubo rodrigo midday tower. Yovich mendy has art was this money well spent few few believe as well that the club did enough to secure paul paul who remember zidane's first choice and always has been literally since the manage three. I returned than there is name for question nabbing austin. Did they really wants name on a toll on all the energy the and time that is being used over neymar could eat eventually being betty utilized elsewhere or was it simply. They say a smokescreen one thing though is surgeon seventy. Five percent of the hundred ten thousand people who achieve voted in an online poll are actually glad that neymar did not come so the dream of pat z. Name all in white is now over the focus now shifts on getting a combat pay into a real madrid shut next summer. Meanwhile zvonimir boban hofer ads me land was talking bad why they couldn't prize look moderate show way this summer. He said he would would've been a great milan player but he simply didn't want to leave madrid on low after the season that they had last year mat isa tells you something about the he player that he is keen on eva's posted an emotional goodbye to madrid as he was presented in paris and everybody was very sorry sorry to see the popular costa rican go. He won everything in his time and set but if you've benchmarks welfare could try equal in five years he he never lost their champions league qualifying games in three finals in rome one all of those all in all three champions leagues for world club cups three european supercop the league title and a spanish supercup he played one hundred sixty two games all told and he conceded just one hundred and fifty nine goals calls me mile odiele moves from g to madrid on a one season loan gareth bale celebrated is sick vesuvius assist signing by posting on social media proud to play this great club which madrid's media noted was of course written in english now he's had a very impressive presses stopped at the season but there is this uneasy alliance between coach and player. It's always seemingly on the brink but for now though it's time to enjoy this renaissance however brief. It's may be now plus tony. The non arrivals made news but the norm departures did as well as hamas rigas magliana brahim diaz all remain asked the club there whether to lost manage offers for mariana and breaking diaz monaco severe and shoko olin clyde on the final day of the window about madonna but he rebuffed all approaches choosing to stay wait his chance breaking diaz had the more interesting offers came in from midland that again was turned down now now onto sunday's game is now fourteen games since sedans return and only six wins four draws and four losses and in the owls following following that draw with via rail there was quite a lot for the media to digest general agreement was that mendis performance was a big big plus z. Dan impeccable in defense was one headline he did win all of the one on ones with the extremely rapid chick wet z and the the other end of the spectrum is vinicius player who they say has lost everything is confidence is simply non-existent now one comment which was seized seized upon by everybody was from casimiro when he was asked what is missing from the team everything he said scoring goals defending but we we'll work together as a team and we will get it right z. Dan's reaction on ramos era was well. Visa simply happen in football anytime but the reaction from us was extremely good. We didn't stop well but we grew into the game but i want to concentrate on the positive aspects here are reaction was excellent. We duty you to improve in defense and we will do so <hes> other views elsewhere who gave val donna was saying the problems are defensive primarily but also zoo. Dan has ended up by confusing everybody this some bales going then bail. Staying name is coming now. He's not coming. Paula was coming now. He isn't coming and you can clearly we see. He said that he has worked on a scenario where he believed the papa would be at the club and ask for venecia's. It just hasn't happened for him yet but he is very young. He's going to have his ups and downs but his confidence is very low at the moments and he was interviewed in depth for e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. and he talked to bat z. Dan in a little bit more depth. He says it danza term was a heroic act. He knew that it was fraught with risk but he took doc that risk and on the team he said it doesn't need major reconstruction at least five or six flares in key positions but there is not a sporting director. Hey you have just sedan and pet. It is not an easy place to succeed a quick look at some of the more indepth numbers from that game got three matchdays by the way three different teams three different systems and seventeen players have actually started for rail madrid orig- madrid ended with fifty six percent of the possession here today creating seventeen goal attempts five on target well dan on the eleven from seventeen nineteen on dogged in man's draw with vitaly passing as ever was of a generally high standard at eighty eight percents. They won't less tackles here. Then <hes> very al did sixty eight percent to seventy one percent they had the edge in the eye winning seventeen of the twenty nine aerial gills individually ramos as as opposed to cruise made the most posses of the day but cruz provided the most key posses with four twenty crosses coming in today of those only three fanta madrid. I play in the penalty area gareth bale sending the most crosses in with six now eight players had shots on goal is well bail and crews had to john doggett maude the rich with the other shots on target for either benza or y'all h casimiro again winning almost double the one on ones of any other player anyone ninety-one every bowl that he challenged for in the arabs also dispossessed four times by the way which is rare played who impressed the fans more than any <music> ads there against villarroel well that was furlan mandy next up them full round. The dribs is l- avantel on saturday the fourteenth things when they should have eight and has odd back. It's midday kick-off before the wednesday meeting with perry sasho in champions league <hes> <hes> that just about wraps up the podcast then for today it is international weeks or things tend to be a little bit quieter. We'll be back with next podcast next monday in day until then don't forget as we said you can catch up with all of the previous episodes one hundred and three of them so there should be enough to keep. You amused over via the website at w._w._w. Dot ramadorai podcast dot com and you can follow us as ever on spotify google alexa. I tune stitcher and every other one of the major podcasts flat forms it can get in touch via facebook laurie now and in the meantime enjoy the international break. We'll see again in seven days type from me. Tim capable capable till then bob ivan al.

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Jovic back to Bundesliga with 2 goals on his Eintracht Frankfurt return

The Real Madrid Podcast

10:00 min | Last week

Jovic back to Bundesliga with 2 goals on his Eintracht Frankfurt return

"Back about each the row madrid. Podcast now coming up. We'll round of what is being making the madrid news across the media's today Plus quick update beltway on the website of your current wondering where it went We're currently redeveloping a brand new website. Which will be up and running inside the next week to ten days. So where do we begin today. Well there is thirty one topic of conversation which is dominating the media and of course the fans and it is all about luca yoga age in the season and after he was real madrid he managed to school or just two goals in his first appearance with on dr frankfurt. He produced two goals in twenty minutes on that for some means there is a trend beginning to appear here young players leaving row madrid having failed to break into the first team who had on loan or indeed us soul to begin to flourish within months. Well some of the names brahim diaz macos. You're rent ashraf key me regi. Lawn anandas rodriguez kubo as well even and of course you cannot yovich to that list now as well for some as we said this is enough to raise questions about the environment and whether or not a suitable to engine nurture young players while the club have fought from given up hope all assimilating lewke of into squad sedan said he's a striker who schools goals and that is ultimately what we want. He was only twenty warm. We signed him is still a young player. He hasn't had much luck here. It took him time to settle in and adapt to life in madrid and he decided to. It wasn't easy from the start. He still has much to learn but he has many qualities that i have no doubt on the transfer run. Let's start with an interview from. Psg spalding director. Leonardo that he gave to french media today on. Un's name are being in paris next season. He said i hope they are both convinced. The perry serzh amount is a place for ambitious and high level players but we have to reach agreement that satisfies their wishes and demands that is according to our financial means which seems to indicate that there is not a bottomless pit. Up money gets paris. They must be realistic now. The transfer window always tends to throw up wild speculation. This january is no different as the meteor seized upon spurious reports linking eat and has odd where they potential move to took him phone abacha. Who had a roommate have actually offered a six month load. Meet here in the uk. Speculating oliver's giroux cooed. Arrive in madrid is a short term replacement for your rich again. Just real speculation. Madrid have already set on multiple occasions. That will be no new signing this season. Also in the news over the last few days the interest of josie marino. In taking mealy out to tottenham potentially in these transfer windows. Well it seems that they now have. Some company with music also reportedly now interested in taking the brazilian as a replacement for the departing. Devotee alibaba also being highlighted. The number of players whose contracts are up in the next eighteen months at madrid apart from madrid vasquez and remorse. That we know about this year in the next eighteen months you can actually add. a nacho. Veran marcellin iska and even benza whose contracts are also up at the moment. There is any moderate shoe. Has a contract sat on the desk waiting for a signature now. It is easy to for jess water to thank the lockdown around the world is actually having professional sport but as a reminder italian meteorology bean reporting significant liquidity issues affecting some of the big clubs in syria transpires is inter have been forced to renegotiate a payment for ashraf kimia of ten million once due in december. It will not be. It's hoped in march of this year just goes to share. It doesn't it. The importance of prudent financial management of this time for the future of football cups big and small play. Who definitely wants to be moving. This transfer window is address. Zola has decided it said to stay until at least the end of the season and has got a significant job. Really hasn't trump forces way back into the first team squad since the strategy of twenty nine hundred ninety s played very little football in madrid in munich where he went out on loan last year. He's made just eight appearances fast becoming another forgotten talented former member banking 2017 software. Dad entry gonna call up to the spanish national team. He had three officers well. This month said to leave row madrid one to go to athletic club. The other two one in italy in syria to go to milan and indeed brucie development at actually inquired about him as well. Another player is continually part of the media. Conversation is iranian current online at brassiere. Dormant michael zork. These sporting director has come out and said that they do not want to actually break the learn with so few opportunities for into play and the difficulties that he is having actually learning german of valencia making public interest in taking him on loan. If not this season then next season to date he has been involved in just eight games across competitions including the supercup cup bundesliga and champions league now. The team returned to action. This weekend the company del rey against alker yano. I'm not to see a very different look to the team at looney is expected to appear in bill elsewhere wholesaler. Seen a couple of graduates from the cassia team antonia blanco the twenty year old midfielder. In his third. Season the custodial team very very highly regarded this play in madrid potential successive forecasts. Mereu in midfield. May well have seen imagining actually with these spanish youth teams of light. He won the under seventeen european championships and indeed the under nineteen as well in recent years and he has moist to be moving up to the under twenty one this year. Keep an eye out as well for vick to choose you. May well see him. Make a cameo appearance to now. The ran was back today as indeed. Was sergio ramos. Neither though is expected to take any pause in the mid week cup can look out the for appearances. Rahm odriozola me. Town nacho erta gob mariana and scope. Madrid's history in the copa del. Rey's in winning. Get back in ninety. Two ninety three against zada gotha has not lean particularly inspiring. Wanted just twice thanking twenty. Ten twenty eleven. Maybe barcelona one goal to nil was after extra time. As well under josie marina and that was ronaldo. Go there and in two thousand thirteen fourteen. They wanted to gain beating barcelona. This time under de maria and gareth bale getting the goals that since. Then they've never. She made a final one semi thanking twenty. Eight hundred twenty nine lori. Was the man in charge. That actually drew one one in bossa learner and lost three nil at home in the return inbetween and with zubin the hell. They're being defeats to athletico madrid. Caddies under rava benitez vigo undesired dan league janice under tzu-dan and last year against severe data gain z. Dan winning this competition. That is really very over june. If you look at the current situation in loud leaker which athletico performing particularly well a champions league that he's going to be very difficult to navigate as well a competent. Ray might well be the best route to silverware this season and then four. Today's round up. I'll be back later in the week as we look forward to. The return of laliga on saturday madrid are going to alabama's do enjoy the mid week in the meantime until next time for me tim capable bye-bye now.

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Replicated Software Delivery with Grant Miller and Marc Campbell

Software Engineering Daily

1:08:51 hr | 1 year ago

Replicated Software Delivery with Grant Miller and Marc Campbell

"Distributed systems are required to run most modern enterprise software application services need multiple instances for scale ability and fail over over large databases are sharded onto multiple nodes logging services streaming frameworks and continuous integration tools. All require the orchestration of more than one server. Deploying a distributed system has historically been difficult because the nodes of the system must be managed by the underlying infrastructure. If I have a distributed system that I want to deploy the complexity of that deployment is going to be different depending on whether I'm running on. Aws or VM. Ware or my own bare bare metal server infrastructure heterogeneous server infrastructure makes it hard to sell distributed applications that get deployed to that infrastructure. A vendor that is selling a distributed database would need to figure out how to make their database work on the infrastructure of any given customer. Kubo Netease has simplified the process of deploying a distributed application Kuban. Andy's is a container orchestration system. That has steadily grown in popularity. The point where the ecosystem is mature and the software stable and now that the software industry has a reliable portable means of deploying a distributed application the enterprise software market is becoming easier to enter for the companies that want to sell a distributed. Application replicated is a company that builds products addicts for software delivery replicated allows for the distribution and updating of applications that would have been hard to deploy in the past grant Miller and Mark Campbell symbol or the CEO and CTO of replicated and the joined the show to talk about the modern enterprise software market and the process for delivering software to companies. That might otherwise have trouble. Consuming it full. Disclosure replicated is a sponsor of software engineering daily over the last few months. I've started hearing about retool. Every business needs internal tools. But if if we're being honest I don't know of many engineers who really enjoy building internal tools. It can be hard to get engineering resources to build. Hold back office applications and it's definitely hard to get engineers excited about maintaining those back office. Applications companies like Adore Dash and Brex an Amazon use retool to build custom internal tools. Faster the idea is that internal tools. Mostly look the same game. They're made out of tables drop. Downs and buttons and text inputs. Retool gives you a drag and drop interface so engineers can build these internal. You is in hours not days. And they can spend more time building features that customers will see retool connects to any database. Api Pi for example. If you want to pull in data from post grass you just read a sequel query. You drag a table onto the canvas if you WANNA try out retool you you can go to retool dot com slash s daily. That's R. E. T. O. O. L. DOT COM SLASH S daily. And you can. Even host retool retool on premise. If you WANNA keep it ultra secure. I've heard a lot of good things about retool from engineers who I respect so check it out at retooled dot com slash s daily Scranton mark. Welcome to software engineering daily. Thank you so much. For having us you guys have been building replicated for about five years and your company requires you to have have a detailed understanding of how enterprises are buying software described to me the modern large enterprise and how it buys a software. Sure yeah that's a great question. I think there's a lot of context that we can unpack there. So I think that specifically for replicated we think about software really needing to be enterprise ready and so we actually built this guide like three or four years ago called Enterprise Ready Dot. Io and that guide is sort of underlines how how SAS and software companies should be building software that enterprises want to buy it turns out. There's sort of the standard set of common features features that every enterprise software application really needs to have and I think for a long time like people didn't really like they kind the thought about those features as one off features. Maybe sometimes there were special requests but ultimately over the last few years it's really consolidated down to these like core features this is things like single sign on audit logging role based access control change management product security you not management integrations reporting right and so those whose features need to be present in the software that enterprise is going to buy and from there. Obviously they need to have like core business value. But that's the thing that really differentiates how enterprise is going to evaluate a product versus how a SMB your mid market company might. It'd be evaluating. There's a shift from the top down purchasing process that might be led by a CFO or CIO. Hi Oh that's the historical form of purchasing. But now there's more of a bottoms up purchasing process that can often involve engineers. Maybe the engineer buys is a cloud service or an API and start using it in their product or they start using the free version and then eventually many people are using the free version within the company. Any and then. Eventually there's an enterprise deal that's more of the bottoms up approach at an enterprise. How does the breakdown between different software products distributed distribute between bottoms up and top down? There more bottoms up or top down software distribution and purchasing. Yeah so you know I. I think you're right. This is definitely changing in. The world is shifting more and more towards this sort of like bottom up model and the tap for handful of different reasons. The first part you mentioned right like just just the availability of cloud services and software and tools. That folks can just start adopting. I'd also say that the open source has really been a huge factor in that as well right. It's just not that hard for someone to find an open source project included in a product that they're building and then for that to become a core part of the infrastructure. So you have these sort of like you know. Empowered developers and empowered sort of frontline folks who are finding tools and projects. That really help them do their work. And so as they start to use those oftentimes these are premium or low cost or open source in so oh they lack a lot of these enterprise ready features that we talked about so as those applications and projects become more widely adopted adopted in an enterprise you start to see demand for more controls and more functionality and more features in so so as that happens you know you start to get this like you know start with one or two teams then maybe it spreads out ten teams. And so there's this acknowledgment within the enterprise that okay. We need to take this new tool that starting to become really important in our in our workflows and our processes in make sure that it's enterprise ready and so that's often the time win that sort of bottom up motion starts to really become sort of a a combination of top down so they'll engage a sales team and they'll start to talk about you know the sort of good better best pricing plans. The move who from that sort of easy to adopt premium model to the next highest plan. Or maybe a plan after that. Maybe they'll talk about spreading it throughout the entire organization right so an enterprise could look at a piece of software and say while there's a lot of success at these. Ten teams are getting from the software. If we got our entire organization they use these and we created an enterprise license agreement. We could really be at an advantage for us. And so they'll start to negotiate what that looks like and then again the asking for these features around security and scale ability. How do they integrate with all the other software? And so that's when a sales person or like Aquino had a product someone's going to step in and kind of help lay the road map for how all that's GonNa work together. I think many of the people that listen to this show are either working in enterprise or there were gonNA software vendor that sells into an enterprise. So maybe they work on a database ace or an authentication solution or security product or a log management product and these software vendors. Some some of them are going to be selling purely cloud products. They'RE GONNA be selling purely through the cloud marketplaces but many of them will eventually get to the point where they're going to need to sell to a wider array of customers including large urge enterprises with a variety of servers. And I'd like to know from your perspective water the biggest struggles that I'm going going to encounter if I'm a software vendor as I am going to market if I want to actually sell a software product into enterprise. What are the biggest struggles that I'm going to encounter? Yeah so I mean first of all. There's like all of the standard go to market challenges. Right how do you get awareness. How do you get people to you? Know want to buy agency but then on the actual development side you know. I think that's where one you're GONNA have to develop these features like these enterprise ready features and then one of those core features. I think you're kind of alluding to is this idea that you know. A multi tenant SAS application is often in times like not very tenable inside of these large organizations right the data that AI application or a developer tool might require could be seen very sensitive information or sensitive data in so that large enterprise might start to ask for. We call like an on on prem version of that product right. So that's kind of goes by many names self managed self hosted but a version of that software that isn't hosted and managed on servers that the software vendor controls but rather as deployed to servers that the enterprise controls. Now those services could be you know in our racked and MM stacked in a data center somewhere or they could actually be innate of us or in Google or and Azure but just in the enterprises account right so these are controlled rolled from like a logical level by the enterprise and so this is a really complicated problem to solve. You know it's always been sort of in software over the last twenty years. There's been this like it's like almost this religious belief that's like you can't do both. You're either are a SAS company. Come a multi tenant SAS company or you are an on prem software company and. That's because like there's just a lot of challenges about doing either right. So if you're doing on prem software off where you have to think about releases and disconnected supportability and how do you make sure that you know keeping your customers up to date rather than having them all in disparate versions versions and so there's all of these really interesting challenges that come from that and plus just the fact that I mean you think about ten years ago building. Reliable software was just so hard right and there was all these different sort of tools in in ways that people are going about it. And ultimately I just don't think that we had the right patterns and primitives for building truly reliable software. But that's that's all changed right so what we've seen the last five years. Is that almost. All software development is moving to the sort of like cloud native architecture right and really in the last two years we've seen just domination of COOBER. Netease in so cooper netease in our opinion is truly the canonical patterns and primitives building reliable distributed software. And with that it allows a software vendor to use the exact same deployment model right that they're using to deploy multi tenant Saas application to reuse that and deliver that manifest plus those images that sort of create that communities application and deliver it that privately to enterprises to run their own version. I mean there's a whole bunch of other interesting challenges. Once you start doing that but generally that sort of model we think creates what we call sort of modern on prem right and this idea that you as a software vendor you don't need to four code base you don't need to think about it as a separate product you need. To just leverage these new patterns turns in Primitives and deliver a Kuban Eddie's based application to your customers so they can run it privately and that's not forever customer right that's going to before the largest enterprises who are really concerned about the security of the data that they want your application to process. Can you describe in more detail. Why and how currencies has changed the relationship between the enterprise buyer and the software vendor? Yeah I think there's a couple of different things that it's it's changed. Their one is instead of every time that enterprise receives software where they have to understand how to deploy. What are the requirements like? You know what what resources do I need to provision for this in. What steps do I need? What one off process inside my organization in order to get the software up and running and monitor and operate it now it becomes? Oh this is a coup bonetti piece of software so I can apply all of the practices all the knowledge all the skills that we've been building inside our enterprise so I can deploy this thing. I can monitor it using the tools that already have monitoring mccoubrey netease infrastructure. Then on top of that is that the application Shen will conform to those Cuban Eddie's primitives around these common interfaces that Kuban Eddie's provides networking storage container. Run Times interfaces like this so if if the application developer has written you know traditionally an application developer will write code and say it needs this. Port expects this volume like this directory. He is hard coded inside the code. Whatever it is these assumptions they make about the run? Time are now configured through that interface. So the enterprise when they're operating it and when they're installing it they can choose Tuesday relocate that they can choose to create a service abstraction on top of it they can apply service Mesh to it. They can run the storage where they want to so it allows them more flexibility for that last mile. Oh configuration of the application that historically was just tightly coupled into the application. Yeah I think it really becomes the common substrate for both vendors And enterprises to build and deploy software and you know this has tons of benefits beyond just like portability right. We're also talking about the the fact that you know developers. Their skills can now translate from company to company. Because everyone starts to use this canonical stack. You know you're not entering into facebook. And trying to learn their you know system of container deployment which they called Tupperware or going to twitter to do Meza's doing like everything his moving to Cooper Netease and that means that developers are skill sets can really transfer and we can walk into a new company. Pick up their stack. No sort of the patterns that they're using because we've seen this many times before today's sponsor is data dog a scalable monitoring and analytics platform that unifies metrics logs traces and more use data dogs advanced features to monitor and Manage S. L. O. performance in real time. Visualize is all your S. L. lows in one place easily search filter and sort ask Ellos and share key information with detailed intuitive dashboards. Plus data dog automatically calculates and displays your era budget so that you can see your progress at a glance go to software engineering daily Dot Com slash data dock and sign up for a free fourteen day trial. And you'll also get a complimentary t-shirt from data dog. Just go to software engineering daily DOT COM slash data. Dog Sign up and get that free t shirt. The first idea that you're talking about there. Is that the fact that Cooper Netease has become the canonical Michael Way of managing infrastructure. Means that as you always employees from enterprise to enterprise you're going to have a consistent experience of of how you're managing your infrastructure as opposed to the status quo today or perhaps you know certainly two three sorry for years ago where you had to learn. Whatever at Hawk infrastructure solution the companies built to manage their different servers? Whether they're doing some kind of chef situation or they've just got a bunch of servers that they manually. You know run scripts on some kind of distributed in in home in house bash. Solution that they've built today. Many many. Many companies are moving towards Kuban Eddie's as the unified way that they're going to be managing editing infrastructure and then downstream impact of that. Is that if you want to sell software to these companies you now can have some expectation speculation of the kind of medium that your software is going to be deployed onto and that simplifies the sales process for distributed applications because most of the important software that is getting sold to an enterprise. Today is some kind of distributed system some kind of database or logging solution or something like that that is sold that has to be distributed has to be managing multiple servers multiple containers. There's and in the past. That was very hard solution to sell. Because it was going to be the deployment medium was GONNA vary from company to company and the management intruments. Different servers was going to vary from company to company. So if you have a steady infrastructure medium than you as a software vendor can have an expectation of how you want to deploy employ a distributed system and then I think one other benefit is if you have an expectation there it becomes much easier for you as a vendor to work with the enterprise that you have sold to on an ongoing basis because usually when you sell software to them. There's going to be some kind of maintenance agreement there's going to be some kind of ongoing solution and you're going to have to do a little bit of work with the company so if you are a vendor and you've sold software to an enterprise. How is that consistency of coober? netties making your life doing maintenance easier. Yeah it's a great question so oh I mean. Part of it is because the underlying platform of coober netease provides so many important reliability primitives that you sort of know that your application is going to be able to scale horizontally and really have a lot of the other sort of like core things that you want to have an expectation expectation for higher. Application can run successfully. Right so you're getting all of these consistent patterns and primitives know that it's going to work there if they can run Kunis horrendous applications you can you know one of the things that we try to provide are like we call preflight Jackson. We'll talk about this a little more later but you can validate that. The conformance of their cluster meets the requirements of your application in. So you're basically able to say. Hey look here's this common pattern. We both follow to deploy scalable applications. Here's our you know. Manifest that describes how this application it should be run and we are so. It's it's almost almost like taking away this manual operations concept where I used to you know. SSH into a server and make configuration changes and now instead we're just in writing these manifests and then we're having that Manifesto Cooper Netease and we're letting cooper netease manage the application and the underlying infrastructure to conform to the desired state that we described described in that manifest in so if I'm handing that to my servers that are in aws. Why can't my enterprise customer just hand that to their servers? That are needed to be wes and have that same desired state applied run the application just as Scaly just as successfully. Tell me more about the typical operations that a the vendor might want to help an enterprise with so five sold a piece of software to the enterprise. What does my ongoing life look like? I know it's not just a one time. Self Service sales. So what kinds of war come I going to have to do with my enterprise. Customer as time goes on so I mean there's a handful of things right number one you have to think beyond just day one right like deliver the software and get it running and you really have to think about about day to in sort of this long term operations of the software and so that's your number one. How do you make sure that you're delivering updates in a way? Hey that the enterprise can process those and deploy them through the same processes they use to the ploy their internally developed software right. So that's a core concept that we believe in the other part would just be you know things `red like we don't think that the world is perfect by any means yet. I don't think that like Cooper Netease. Applications nations like this is an air freeway. There's probably going to be issues. You're going to need some type of troubleshooting that you can do long term and do that in a disconnected way where you're not taking control of the machine remotely. You're trying to do something where you're still getting access to all the data so you know you're gonNA. We've we've built frameworks around this. You know we call replicated troubleshoot which is a framework for identifying you know different log files and commands might WANNA run in your customer's environment to identify potential issues and then run it through redaction tools and analyzers that will sort of supply next actions actions the customer can take to troubleshoot installation or some issue that might be happening. And there's a handful of other things. I think you're going to need to be doing you know. Part of that is is making sure that your updates are continuously successful like as you add new components as you add new parts of your software. You need to make sure that the environment is is able to to manage and handle those so finding ways to validate that every time you deliver as also really important. So the reason we're discussing this is because replicated you have been focusing on software delivery the software delivery process process that improves things for the vendors and approves things for the enterprises that are consuming it from the vendors. Describe the stack stack of software. That you've built to enable that software delivery process. Yes here's Marco into a little more detail but we basically have developed upped a suite of open source projects. And he's a really purpose built Kuban Eddie's projects that are designed to sort of help facilitate tate the common challenges around delivering and Managing Coupe. Randy's off the shelf software and so we've open sourced all of these into that was a really a big part of what we do. And so you know. We call it the committee's off the shelf. Software referred to as COTS with a K.. And this is kind of a play on traditional commercial off the shelf software which is called taught. That's kind of how the industry would talk about. You know shrink wrapped or packaged software. Fifteen years ago. So we're kind of revitalizing that term Cooper nineties era but we have these different cots sort of components that are all open source and really tackle different challenges. I'll let mark dive into those so at the core of that. We have this. The main cots products seal I. It's in as a coupe control plug in so it executes on the client side and we made that decision just so that we could work with existing existing clusters really well without having to ask for higher security requirements or you know cluster admin level permissions in with that coop. Control Plug in and an enterprise can just receive the upstream mural of an application in a licensed file and then install it and when it installs it actually installs the next component that we have which is called we call it caught stadium. And that's the cluster admin console that's presented as a Ui that served inside the cluster in. It has a few. You know core functionalities like a dashboard. So that you can add some prometheus metrics in the health of the application in general view the licensing the license if you've requested quested changes or the expiration has changed on it and then like view the downstream sorry view the version history that are available in all the downstream clusters that you have deployed too so you you can see the difference that are applying. You can check for updates. You can make those last mile. customisation changes one of the things that we built core into cots and Casa Diem from the beginning as deep integration gracious with a project and the Kubis ecosystem called customize with a K.. And that allows the enterprise to take the YAMBOL and make last mile changes just to it that are relevant to their configuration but probably not relevant to other configurations and other clusters that need to run it and then we also have built in in support with preflight checks troubleshooting. That grant mentioned earlier so if the application stops working you can click a button and it'll collect a bunch of support bundle handle type data collected into an archive redacted and then even perform automated analysis against that to show you what might be wrong based on what. The application vendor has has packaged into the application. A lot of the stuff that we've done and then the last part to mention is that it enables you to kind of move away from this click to deploy like my application received achieved an update. So you click a button and allows you to integrate this into a get ops workflow so you can connect your repository. Whether that's key hub. Enterprise bit bucket get lab wherever that is and then updates to the application whether their license updates configuration changes customization changes you've made or the vendor itself has updated the application. They'll just be He created as commits into that git repository. which then you can run that through any kind of workflow you want for security scanning or any type of like post or pre eh deployment validation of those manifest before they get to play to the cluster? Yeah I think that part's really important rate. So you know I think last year on the show. We talked about a project that we called replicated ship encodes. Adm is really the spiritual successor to replicate it ship. We sort of took what we learned with buildings replicated classic plus replicated ship and we created this cots suite of tools right and one of the core concepts of ship was both like you know getting customized and that sort of last mile configuration. It was also we really believe in this concept of gaps. Right and in the folks that we've works kind of have pioneered this idea but get ops is really about version mm controlling all of the sort of configuration as code so all the manifest before you actually deploy those to a cluster right you you should check those into version control. In order to use the change management processes that were also familiar with version control in from our perspective. The really cool thing at this does is if you think about like how you manage third party software version thing like for a long time you might be doing like you know in the world you might have done. Unlike a Hallam upgrade or helm install these sort of different like commands that are just gonNA operate directly in the cluster. And now with what we've done with COTS COTS cots. Adm You can actually manage third party software verging through version control right and we think that just makes sense. It's like it's automated automated that you don't have to do anything extra anytime the upstream application ships new update. We're going to automatically download those manifests. Take those images. Push those into internal registries that the enterprise might have rewrite the images on top of the manifests and then commit that directly into the version control system at the enterprise has set up from there can flow through their internal processes around policy enforcement image. Scanning whatever else they want to do before it gets deployed employed. But those deployments you know then have this really clear. Record of all the versions that have ever been delivered to the cluster. Yeah I think one of our goals that the main the reason we wanna do that was to be able to receive third party software using the same pipelines at. You're already using to deploy your first party software so if your team's writing API's into playing them as part of of your product and you're also receiving third party software you need to deploy to that cluster. There shouldn't be two different processes involved with getting those released. This should all work through the same pipeline. Because you've you've already invested in the tooling visibility and everything into that. So this set of tools that you built is about five and a half years in the making king and I'd like to understanding of how you arrived at this particular stack and maybe some of the errors or blind alleys that you found along the way. Why did you arrive on this set of open source tools caught caught? Adm preflight eight and so on as the set of solutions for being a software vendor that wants to deploy software to an enterprise prize or an enterprise that wants to consume software from a traditionally cloud vendor. Yeah so you know. All too many innovations in the making right so I I think that's one you spend time working with software vendors and so our customers are folks like Hashish Corp Circle. CI AND TRAVIS CI folks you've had on the show like sneak. In bugs nagging ubt be all use replicated as well and they've been using replicated classic for years so we work with you know fifty percent of the fortune one hundred hundred to deliver applications. There's I mentioned into these enterprise environments in totally secure ways writes some of these clusters air gapped inside of you know a truck in the back of the Middle East right so like you have to be able to do this in a very disconnected secure way. In order to support report. The the most demanding enterprises are tools of really been designed from the ground up to do that. And then the other part right is. We've just seen Jeanne Cooper netease become like. This project is so widely adopted and it just has such velocity and so for a long time and we we actually wrote our own orchestration Asian scheduling. We first started the company but events in our goal there was not like to be an orchestration scheduling company was just like fill some of the gaps who felt like we're missing to deliver software for this way but then maybe three years ago we delivered a version of replicated. That was Cuban is compatible and this version that we've delivered is the first truly mccoubrey metis native way to deliver third party software and I say that because it really meets the entire spectrum of end customer needs right online or air gap we can solve both it also does something we talk about as existing cluster installations or embedded cluster installations so differentiate. Those is really quick. SOM- enterprises have existing Cuban Eddie's cluster. And they need to install your application in it. Maybe we'll create a namespace for you that they wanted. Deploy your software to but you need Cooper Netease Native tooling to make that happen. And so that's where you know. Mark Kinda mentioned this idea of Cuccia plug ins but these coupes detail plug ins are used by the cluster operator and QC T. l.. Anyone that has Cuban and he's like has CTL on their workstation or on some machine they used to control their cluster and so extending coops et l. with functionality right like preflight or troubleshoot or cots really gives a native experience to the end user to manage cluster and then the other side is. There's some organizations that you know that enterprises don't have really any idea what cooper nineties is yet so that's starting to become less and less but they're still probably fifty percent of the market. It doesn't have any kind of Kuban. Initiative or cluster that. They're running yet. And so when you deliver them your software. You need to package up or embed Kuban Eddie's with with the application and so we open sourced are embedded Kuban. Eddie's installer that we call curl with a K. so this is your Kuban Eddie's url and a choice cly Kuba district district creator. That can package up some of the core components of a cooper netease cluster. Right because key. Role Cooper Netease incubate. Em doesn't provide all all of the necessary components or add ons that you would need to create like a usable cluster. So curls is built on top of Kuwaiti M it adds in these different add ons and it creates like a very usable cluster that your application can be deployed onto and that can just be installed either from an air got package that we generate or from a URL H url. That has like a little hash at the end that that is an installer for your application and again is is totally open source so like we open source that we open source of all these tools because we think number one that anything that the cluster operator is running. That's it's going to power the installation in the management of one of these third party software applications. It should be open source right. It just makes it more transparent it's easier to adopt and and ultimately we have figured out a business model where you know our customers. This offer vendors so we have a commercial product that helps them operationalize and scale the distribution of all this right and we talk about that in towards the end but like we don't need to monetize or to keep these cluster operator tools proprietary so we open source them and they're really focused on this idea of of sort of optimizing the experience automating as much as you can and reducing amount of human interaction in terms of supporting and updating in managing these applications. So we spent a lot of time with the existing tool set and and you know ultimately we decided that these are the core features that we need to have. And these are the core features at any like Cooper Netease application. That's it's being delivered to an enterprise should have any third party software application delivered. The committee's need some way to be configured and managed and then a way to troubleshoot it and ensure that it's going to run correctly on every update and so creating these frameworks and these tools is our way of sort of helping the industry move towards this idea of modern on prem software. So let's go through some of these open source building blocks walks that you have one of the projects you have is called cots which is Cooper Nettie off the shelf. He explained what that is. And why you needed to build a Kuban. Eddie's distribution sure so cots is not a commodities distribution by itself. It's a tool. That's designed to deploy a commercial off the shelf software and help you operate commercial office shelf software. Inside any cooper nine cluster and that can be a cluster that was embedded in with the application. It can be a cluster running on Amazon E. K.. Asser G K or as your or can be open shift it can be whatever you want. Air Gap non air gap the challenges that like application vendors worshiping their application in various ways you know helm charts are a very popular way to distribute applications other application vendors. Would just write application the animal and deliver or that to you and then you'd have to configure that more so there was still a little bit of disparity in how you would configure and manage that and then enterprise needed to inevitably make last mile changes that were only applicable to their enterprise to their cluster to their installation. So cuts is really a tool that tries to help normalize all that through do a coupe control plug in so you can operate this. From your workstation pointed to whatever cluster that you're coop configure coop context is already set to so so you can say coop cuddle cots install whatever application it is and that'll install the admin console. Get ready for a licensed in the application ready to go. From which point you can just take run with in built it into any workflow that you might already have got it and surf the confusion there and then so who cut. ADM is a sidecar tool for managing the applications that you create with costs you describe what cuts adm does Chur yeah. It's exactly the way we like to talk about it right. It's a SIDECAR application. Think of it like an admin console for the application it's optional but when it's their provides a lot of value around a dashboard and visibility into your license the ability to troubleshoot it it creates a Web. Ui Around preflight light checks so that you can see if your cluster meets the minimum requirements or has suggested changes that you need to make our upgrades you should make to it. And then the the ability to visually see the diff- Kuban Eddie's manifests are becoming that common substrate that we talked about so it allows you to visually see the dip in the cluster. Operator can click in when there's an update available and even see the lines of the Kuban Eddie's application that have changed with that update and then they can decide whether or not they want to deploy that or they can then as grant mentioned earlier integrated into their existing pipeline if they have that and be able to configure to just push all those updates to their get repo but Caccia is is a Sidecar Admin console that will deploy alongside and application. It's a pretty small not very resource intensive but it provides a lot of admin functionality that every application developer would probably have to create through like. CLI's or their own little web. Okay so I think the cotton caught. Adm of the six different open source projects that you have if we want to talk through the process of using your suite tweet of technologies as a vendor. The main idea is that if I have some kind of software that I want to deploy to an enterprise's is coober netties cluster. I'm vendor. I'm going to make my software compliant with Kuban ities off the shelf golf and I'm going to be able to deploy that to the enterprise. COOBER netease cluster. Like if I've got my database Abass like if I'm Yuga by DP create my database. I make it possible to deploy to the coronet off the shelf version and caught cots will let me deploy it to that kind of Kuban Eddie's and caught adm will let me remotely manage aspects of of my vendor distribution and cots adm kind of provides the medium of creating updates and doing kinds of operations other administrative duties and creates a medium of communication between the vendor and the enterprise. It's actually consuming the vendor's software. Yeah I think it's pretty. Close the key piece there is that Yukos's adm lives inside of the enterprises cluster and it becomes this like tool. That automates some of the toil. That the enterprise is it admin might be doing in order to manage updates or to troubleshoot the application so it's being deployed along with the application. It lives in the cluster. There's no like remote management as much as it can make an outbound request to find updates that use the software vendor published and then it can also extract logs and other information. redact those bundles up. Either for in cluster analysis or to be delivered to the vendor for remote disconnected troubleshooting and so we should think about costs. Adm as this like really powerful in cluster sidecar component for any software vendor. That's delivering committees application. And then I think probably the most important part right so like out of the box. The end customer is going to do this sort of they're going to put in their configuration configuration information around like. Oh what's my host name where my T- alerts like. How do I can figure this APP? And that's very similar to like a helm values but then the important part is that once they've set up the application have it running they can actually set up day to operational automation. And that's the stuff that's going to push images into the enterprise's internal version control system and their internal image registry and so that automated process means now now instead of like having task on my list every two weeks ago check for an update and download the software and run it through some scanning and unlike deployed out I can basically just use my version control system to merge in these commits to my production deployment and that is sort of will run through all of my standard processes. And I'm using to deploy other Cooper Nettie services that my internal software teams are deploying. And so so it's piggybacking on that same process that you use to deploy internal software and saying look now third. Party software CAN BE Q.. Managed to the same way in very automated process. Take me inside the engineering at replicated. So you've got these open source projects you also have the the previous version of replica ship. And you kind of have the the evolution of the of the replicate platform to support. I just just like to know how engineering at the company is organized. And what your process of communicating with customers and iterating on the product is. I mean it's a great question. We have three different versions of replicated that we have out there. That were supporting right now. In they weren't ever a complete rewrite eight from the ground up. We would continue to build on on all the tooling that we had built in the previous iteration. So even our Communities Distribution Lists Curl Project Act that allows you to create a one line Cubans distribution is really just an open source version of the Kuban. Eddie's install scripts that we've been running for the past three plus two years for somebody who had a coupon compatible version of replicated classic so we've worked really hard on the engineering side to make sure that we don't have three totally different sets of code bases in three different product lines that we're actually offering. They're all built on the same thing. And we're actually working hard to take the replicated classic Doc Code Right now in that instead of having it have a fork of the open source stuff that we've created and released under the cat's name dish to be able to use that so we we don't Have like they're all using the same common code base internally and that's because we're a go shop right and so a lot of time vendor these in yeah exactly I mean we. Almost all of our code on the back end is written. All of the open source stuff is Ingo and so they re use each other a lot in a lot of the things that we do our around Kuban Eddie's operators incriminates custom resource definitions also. And so we have these custom kinds that we've created inside are different projects and so when we went to use them we grant mentioned we've vendor that men and we just just create custom resources that are able to use each other. What's on the roadmap? What is important to implement in order to improve the process of software delivery from your point of view? Yeah I think the interesting pieces like we've been working towards the replicated cots what's offering. I mean really for five years right like you know. It's sort of over several iterations. Maybe three years ago when we started to really make Kuwaitis a first-class last part of what we're doing. We had some of these ideas. And you know it's been a long road to sort of find the right way to offer this. I mean partially because is the ecosystem is moving very fast right if you think about this idea of coop. CTO PLUG INS like. The whole framework was rewritten. Maybe like you know nine months ago or something and and we think that's a really important part of how cluster operator should be. You know managing these third party components and so as everything has been changing. You know we've been trying to make sure we're taking advantage of the latest and greatest different ways to offer this functionality and so this project in this suite of tools is really exactly what we wanted to have for a long time and I think that there. It's an incredibly strong foundation and for solving some of the most important problems around configuration troubleshooting updating like automating away this toil and so when I look at the road map right. It's continue to integrate these projects with the broader committees ecosystem. Right so are curl project. That's the open source sort of coober. Netease Destroy Creator. You know. We're going to integrate that more closely with the add-ons projectors actors or Sig that's happening in the community because system integrated more closely with the cluster. API and so. There's some really interesting things we can do there. But ultimately our goal with that project object is to continue to commodities the installation and updating management of just a raw cooper news cluster right. We don't think that should be some special at hard thing to do. So you know we just WanNa see that. So that everyone can have a cluster. No matter where they are then these other projects I think about you know the ability to you do preflight checks into trouble. Shoot these applications. You WanNa make sure that that project is well adopted in in the standard and becomes a standard for application unlevel troubleshooting in the Kereta Chico system. So we're trying to work with his some of the folks at measures fear on the CU project and we just like to Z.. Like we would like to collaborate with more focus on these tools and really build community and consistency so that you know that these are not just one off tools that we created but they become and we migrate them towards standards that we all sort of agree will create a better ecosystem for delivering delivering these types of applications. I'm sure Marcus mother thoughts on on Road Map as well. I mean I think our goal with with cots is you know to make it so that there's compelling enough reason and it's it's integrated enough into the enterprise's existing systems and process that they have the whether or not the application is being delivered through a replicated vendor. It's just a good way to run third party software. Because it's you have guaranteed success that is going to install is going to update it's going to be compatible with all the workflows and everything that you want so we just really what's to become an open source good tool that you can use to run any third party software inside Kuban et cluster. So that's you know could be home. Charts could be raw commodities manifests could be operators. We think all of these can benefit from some of the core principles around get ops and automating workflows does and you know having a consolidated dashboard for all your third party applications. So that caught theam product actually has a really cool feature which you know if if you use as a software vendor to distribute your application your customer can use it to manage that one application. It's totally white labeled and it looks like your admin console but then over time is that operator really loves these patterns around you know having their third party application updates automated version control in their into registries. They're not doing the work on that. They can actually start to add additional applications to that adleman console and it becomes multi APP just like kind of how slack can go from like one and slack works based two to three to five like this tool used a similar experience to allow you to manage multiple applications as a cluster. The operator in this very automated way as businesses become more integrated with their software than ever before it has become possible to understand the business more clearly through monitoring turing logging and advanced data visibility. Sumo logic is a continuous intelligence platform that builds tools for operations security charity and cloud native infrastructure. The company has studied thousands of businesses to get an understanding of modern continuous intelligence and then compiled wild that information into the continuous intelligence report which is available at software engineering daily Dot Com slash sumo logic. These SUMO MO- logic continuous intelligence report contains statistics about the modern world of infrastructure. Here are some statistics. I found particularly useful. All sixty four percent of the businesses in the survey were entirely on Amazon web services which was vastly more than any the other cloud provider or multi cloud or on prem deployment. That's a lot of infrastructure on aws. Another factoid I found was that a typical enterprise uses fifteen. Aws Services and one in three enterprises uses aws. Lambda appears service. Service is catching on. There are lots of other fascinating. Statistics in the continuous intelligence report including information on database adoption Coober Brunetti and web server popularity go to software engineering daily dot com slash sumo logic and download the continuous intelligence report today. Hey thank you to sumo logic for being a sponsor of software engineering daily. Could you tell me more about division for these open source tools actually develop into an ecosystem. Because you're hinting. There are at the reason that you had to go from replicated ship or you chose to go from replicated ship to the suite of open source tools tools. The idea there being that accompany like may so sphere and perhaps other companies in the future would want to use some of these different tools to help facilitate the software delivery process or things that are components of the software delivery process. Yes and under trying to understand your vision for the future of how software is delivered. How softwares purchased the process Assis of deploying it onto coober netease clusters? Clearly you are envisioning a very large potential market because you're indicating that the market is so big that it would not only support multiple commercial players. That are going to want to do stuff like this. But so big that these different commercial players are going want to be contributing to shared open source resources. So I'm just curious about your your perspective for how this market is going to develop over time time. Yeah I mean ultimately we really think that the world of enterprise software like it's always been this this sort sort of duality of of on prem versus SAS and our vision of that those two worlds should really blend into one and we think that coober netease is the primary driver ever for that blending ultimately the idea that like every company is going to run a thousand different SAS applications locations in send data off to all these different you know. Multi Tenant APPS. We think that's insanity right. We just don't think that the you know large organizations are gonNA want to expose their the data to that many different vendors. We don't think that that's a secure way to to think about you. Know your data and you know you as an enterprise this is really a steward of so much data and you have consumers at trust you you have other businesses that trust you and you start to just like sort of Willy Nilly Tossed Austin data into any vendor. You let anyone sort of bottom up use these applications. Without the considerations around their compliance and security. You know even if you're trying to do you know vendor security questionnaires for every piece of software that you use. I mean trying to manage the security purity in surface area of thousand different software vendors is just. It's really hard right. You're just have so many different points of attack. And so we see a world where you have. Fewer trusted embedded software like infrastructure providers. And those could be the big three hyper clouds like Amazon and Google and Microsoft where you're using their as a service but it's really just infrastructures of service and and some of you know maybe you'll have a handful of other SAS applications that you also use. Maybe it's cloudflare. Maybe it salesforce. Whoever else but the number is definitely zero vendors that you trust with your data and the number is definitely not a thousand in terms of vendors you trust your data so that number has to be somewhere in the middle but we think that the the world of software like you just you have to be able to use a lot of software and so the only truly secure way to use software in our opinion is to deploy floyd where you have control over the data that you put into it right? You're not exposing any of this digital data and so if you can use lots of third party applications deployed into servers that you control. Well that's sort of like the panacea perfection in our opinion so if you can automate the process around around how those applications are actually like operationalized and how they're updated and how they're managed in they really become self healing. Well then you've just you you know like I said okay now. I don't have to think about the data security around these applications nearly as much because I you know it's the same data security that I use for internally developed and deployed applications nations. I don't need to think about the operational overhead because the same operational patterns that I use to deploy internally written applications and so we can start to expose more and more software applications that your team can run in your infrastructure and they can start to take advantage of lots of different tools and automate more processes and really achieve that like concept of overused term of digital transformation and become a software company. And you know that vision I think is just it's so enormous because you're talking about taking a market of multi tenant SAS applications. It's about one hundred billion a year adding it to a market of on Prem software deployment which is still about four hundred billion a year right blending those this together in a way that accelerates the adoption of software so that this model and when you look at all the alternatives right you look at like enterprise key management which is like a solution around. How do you encrypt data? But keep the keys with the actual enterprise like these data still require trust in these models to require trust around the data and you know maybe someday we get to a foo leaf and super fast version of hobble Morphou conscription corruption. And it's not like a science project but it's actually something that we are operationalizing and makes sense to us for terabytes and terabytes data. We know everything we I know about. That doesn't seem to make that really reality. At least not in the next twenty years. He's not with our current computing technologies. So we think that this idea of modern on Pram Cram is really part of the future and its core driver for how enterprises will make that digital transformation with cooper. Nettie is at the center. You know we just see it as this hugely like there's a huge amount of momentum behind it already and we think that it's clear that running third party software in Cobra's applications is like the best way to run third party software like no one should be delivering. Va's or jars or wars and we see a lot of these traditional software companies that had built their applications and have tens of thousands of different enterprises using that sort of like legacy on from software. They're all making the same transition as the SAS companies to create Kubis versions of these applications. Because that way they can can take advantage of the patterns primitives of reliability. That Cooper News provides and their customers can run their software much more reliably and reduce that operational overhead. You're seeing these markets really converge into one way of delivering. What we call coburn off the shelf software and so for us? We we want to provide the set of tools that help. Spur that forward and we are thrilled to work with anyone who sees that same vision and wants to create tools to make that more possible. And we think you know the success of Kuban overall like when you step back and you compare it to docker or something else. We think it's because it was so open. It's because it was community owned and community driven in. So you know that's why we're worth thrilled to work with anyone. That's making these like that. Wants to see this reality come true. Because ultimately standards words are really important and they create the longevity and the opportunity behind a house something becomes not just a five five year opportunity but at twenty or fifty opportunity. I agree with with what you said. It's it's hard to exactly how the market will shake Kowt but it certainly conceivable to me that it is. It is big and it's going to be changing as much in the direction of coober netease as you're indicating reading but just to give a little bit more color on the particular area of software that you are solving that is the the delivery process of a vendor delivering to an enterprise that process actually has a number number of rolls involved. And it's not just like I'm a vendor and I'm going to deliver the software to my enterprise is and it's GonNa all be handled by a solutions. Architect does actually multiple different people. They're gonNA ball. There's going to be customer success. That's going to be sales. Els is going to be engineering solutions architecture. And all these different roles within the software vendor within the company that is maybe the the database so the logging solution that selling to the enterprise and my understanding of one of the things you're trying to solve is the communication channel where they're all of these different roles within the software vendor are talking to the Enterprise D. Do I understand correctly that there is just like frustrations or difficulties around the communication channel between that vendor and the particular customer and you're trying to consolidate eight seven that communication. Yeah this is really part of our commercial offering right which is the vendor tooling to operationalize and scale the distribution. You should Kouba Netease off-the-shelf applications right in. So you know. This is a product that our customers from using for years. And it's really just focused on things like workflows and processes cusses for Release Channels Licensing entitlement management is like how do you create a customer license. How do you create different values and enabled different features per customer costumer? How do you make sure you're delivering the right version? Teach customer in assigning them to different channels and then. How do you manage the the process around you know support in making ensure that you have a clear process to troubleshoot those customer environmental initiatives rise? And to your point we've made all these features be very cross functional and so the idea behind the commercial tooling is. Hey you're going to deliver a KARANIS applications images to a customer. If you're going to do that like once or twice ace like maybe some are open source stop. It's going to help you out. You can write these little manifest that will invoke the preflight troubleshoot or you can make the Koch. ADM valuable but if you're GONNA do this and try to deliver your software to tens hundreds thousands of different enterprises will that's when you need defined workflows in processes and that's what our commercial product really offers. So you know that's when you would find that you're getting involved more than just an engineer to send some Cuban Eddie's manifest manifests but you're pulling in your customer success folks who want to know what version of they on. How are they using the software you know? What's the latest you know like? When did they last check? Check to see if there's a new version your support folks. You're GONNA WANNA manage the support bundles that are generated by to these customers and then sent up once they're redacted you're gonNA WANNA have you've you know folks that are in pre sales can create a trial license and maybe that try license is generated from a salesforce integration. And any time you put a new lead and salesforce we generate a new license to them and you give your pre sales team the ability to walk in to a customer give them a great demo set up an environment so they can try out your product right. So there's all of these different front folks that have to be involved in the process of going to market successfully with a coupon off the shelf application and that's what the commercial replicated tools are really designed for to close off what has been the hardest part of building the business over for the last five and a half years. What was the most difficult point? I'll let mark to crack it at first and then I'll give my my perspective. Okay from engineering a product perspective. I think the most difficult part is definitely been around. Just how fast moving in the ecosystem is five years ago. When we started the company docker containers were around but Kuban? Eddie's didn't even have the first Alpha release yet and so we needed to build a container schedule orchestration system to solve this and then swarm arm came out and if you think five years is you know it's it's not a long time to have gone from a proprietary scheduling orchestration system. Rewrite it to we could have support for dockers swarm warm and support for Cooper Netease and then finally to where we are now. Where we like? It's Cooper Netease native and it supports Cooper needs so in general. You know I'd say one huge technical challenge in product challenge. Just really ben to staying ahead of in where we need to be to be compatible with. Both the vendor who often is as you know bleeding edge in wants has a Kube Annuities. Application has the latest and greatest and being able to still support enterprise customers who may be run disconnected did offline older Santos in rural environments that they need to be able to make that compatible in from my perspective and there's so many different challenges. Yeah I mean this is the second business that mark and I have run together and when we first started that we felt like we had learned so much from the first business and now I look back five years ago and realize like how how much we've learned now and you know one of the core challenges that I've faced personally is just like. How do you describe really complex six and technical solutions that you're building that are super powerful but like you know when the market doesn't necessarily like not everyone's up to date on all the technologies easy you're talking about but their foundational in what you're doing? How do you describe that to folks no way they really quickly and see the value and want to learn and more right and dive deeper and reach? Docs like that's a really big challenge. Particularly kind of couples on on top Marcus talking about about how fast the market moves right so the Karinna Chico system is just been exploding and so if you want to describe it you have to reference you know the things that are neighboring your technology but you Kinda need folks to the up to date so they have to be. Maybe on hacker news every hour in order to know the latest and greatest or you know be following ever release and reading every every common blog post. That's out there but it's it's those are those are real challenges around building this kind of business guys. Thanks for coming in software engineering daily. It's been great talking to you. Thank you so much when I'm building a new product G two. 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142: Leadership Lessons from a Personal Trainer -- Building a Highly Motivated Team with Dan Kubo on the TalentGrow Show with Halelly Azulay

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142: Leadership Lessons from a Personal Trainer -- Building a Highly Motivated Team with Dan Kubo on the TalentGrow Show with Halelly Azulay

"I don't think anybody drives to work awakes up in the morning and have the fought of men. Let me go to work and not do a great job. Oh. Let me do a bad job. I think everybody generally wants to do the best that they can at whatever they pursue whether it's recreationally or professionally, it's challenging the tricky parts for all leaders managers, whatever you wanna call. It is, how to be able to kind of dig that up and bring it to the surface every day. Welcome to the talent grow show where you can get actionable results oriented, insight, and advice on how to take your leadership communication, and people skills to the next level and become the kind of leader, people want to follow. And now your host and leadership development, strategists, Elali Zula welcome back telling growers rely your leadership development, strategists here town grow. And this is the talent grow show, most of the time when I interview people on the show, they are thought leaders experts of some kind in the leadership domain and what I don't usually get the opportunity and the pleasure to do is to feature. Actual real leaders that are just doing great work and not trying to promote themselves as leadership experts and this week, I do have one for you. It's actually someone who is friend and colleague, and I met him because he was my first personal trainer when he first began his career, and when I began my fitness journey back thirteen years ago, twelve or thirteen years ago, Dan Kubo. Is going to share with you how he has been getting tremendously successful leadership trajectory in his career. He works for a lifetime fitness, which is a major and very successful organization. And he continues to get noticed by them and promoted and the kind of work that he's doing with his teams is really tremendous. So you're gonna learn about his leadership philosophy and the kinds of tips, tricks, and things that he does with his team and teammates to help them, grow to help them shine and to help him have an easier job of his work, which is as he says it growing other people to be leaders. I think you're gonna love this episode. And I can't wait to share with you. So without further ado, let's listen in to my conversation with, Dan. Kubo. Talent growers. I'm really happy this week to have my friend. Dan, Kubo on with me. He is a manager and leader at lifetime fitness training division. He's been there for the last three and a half years. Specializing in recovery in grand opening scenarios. He says his biggest passion is around culture, team, building talent development and intrinsic motivation gonna tell you a little bit about his background, but he's got background both in the military, and he has a background with both undergrad and a master's degree in exercise physiology. And he's been a personal trainer for the last thirteen years. Dan, welcome to the talent grow show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad to be a part of it. And looking forward to get started. I am too, and before we get into some of your techniques and tips and why I've asked you on. I wanted you to always my guest introduce their professional journey briefly, but it you started how did you get to where you are today, or you mentioned my background, I started instructing all lead. People in the military, I was actually taking people through the combat medic training in these Rayleigh military. So that's kinda where started getting in front of groups of people and educating them, and taking through medication in content saints than I became a personal trainer. And at some point within the last four years I was fortunate enough to stop leading teams with lifetime fitness. So I've had by now three gloves that I managed the personal training division have been fortunate enough to work alongside. Well of our hundred trainers by now around building cultures obviously performance and things of that nature. So that's a little bit about my background. He yeah, it's really interesting. Of course, I mentioned in the intro ready. How we met I was fortunate enough to be one of your first clients. I think the US in it's been a tremendous pleasure for me to watch you from far growing and developing, you know, we've stayed in touch just in general, just as friends. But what's cool about you is that you work out loud, which means that you share what you're doing with the world with many people don't, and I think that you do that an very tasteful way guys should go. Follow him on Instagram. I'll show that at the end, but as I have, and I've been seeing what your sharing and are like, man. This guy's doing like team building and contests everyday when he doesn't even have any word, you know, playing games all day long. So, but I know that you are chosen by a very prestigious and very business minded business, which is lifetime to open brand new divisions of this is no joke doing good. Stop for them. Oh, I wanted you to come on the show and share some of your leadership approach and philosophy and tricks with the talent growers community. So let's start just in general. Do you have a leadership Lhasa fee that guides you? There's multiple ways of about thinking about it. I think a big. Term in the leadership community, these days, the idea of servant leadership and weekend, you know, peel that layer by layer. But the idea of my job is to be there for my team members support them, and I like to say, cultivate, their intrinsic motivation as shared with the offline I'm not necessarily in original thinker disturb, really good applicator for the likes of Simon Senic than think with the book drive, which are probably like two of my biggest cornerstone. I just tried to apply those teachings to the way, I interact, specifically with my team. I mean the health and fitness industry, but those are things that applicable to focus on five hundred companies on across industry. Whatever your profession and whatever interaction you have with your team members. Yeah, total agree. And of course, I would really like to get Simon cynic on my show. I have not successfully done that yet, but Dan, Dan, pink has been on the show was one of my favorite episodes of twenty. Eighteen so will link to that in the show notes. And I do also love to share some of the teachings that he has in that book in dry. Yeah. And just not for those who haven't read anything about that yet. He says that there are basic motivators for people in the post industrial knowledge worker, kind of world, which is having a sense of purpose connection of purpose through your work mastery, and feeling like you're always wanting to grow and atonomy, which is having a sense of some control over how you were, or when you're worker with whom you're work aware you were to some degree. So what are some of the things that you've successfully applied? Let's step back. One more you said, intrinsic motivation. I feel like we should probably just a fine that real quick. What does that need? You injury motivation, stemming internally from one sense of purpose. Wanting to do the best. They can do one of the things that always share with my. Upcoming emerging young leaders that I am privileged to work around is the idea that I don't think anybody drives to work awakes up in the morning. Have the fought of men? Let me go to work and not do a great job. Let me do a bad job. I think everybody generally wants to do the best that they can at whatever they pursue whether it's recreationally or professionally, it's challenging the tricky part for all leaders managers, whatever you wanna call. It is, how to be able to kinda dig that up and bring it to the surface every day. So to kind of, cultivate, engage people, so that they can show up with that best intention. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean tons of things get in the way right? Like if they don't wake up wanting to do a bad job. So what are some of the obstacles that you've seen people face? I think trust is a big one, especially as we have seen more of the millennial generation entering in starting to dominate the work. Force. We know from a lot of stars Ellery search the dead generation wants to be part of something bigger than themselves. Oh, make an impact on the world. So it's really easy in no matter what business you're in, especially if it's a revenue driven business to get really detail oriented on that travel. New metric on whatever, metric, you'll measuring and loose side of the big Fergus of the organization in loose connection with that big impact, or even that mission statement. Whatever that organization in kind of tap into that from an individual talent level. I think I think sometimes it's getting the way of really showing Simonsen refers to the circle of safety around your team members and not just your top performers. But everybody, he mentioned, the idea of I don't remember of the company that you cannot get fired. You cannot end your employment there. If we hire the, the scrutiny with they dull stuff beforehand. And now we're gonna call to issue regardless of, you know, you're learning curve, or your aptitudes, your initial, but stand show, we believe in everybody. So I think that's something that's really important to make sure that you call today than you wanna develop everybody. 'cause like I said earlier, I think everybody generally wanna develop themselves personally on both on a personal as one of the professional level, and they wanna do the best job that they can again it's opposition to, you know, teach him the ropes and some people on to put their best foot forward, just because they might not know how and they might not have the confidence in the platform to as those questions and one put themself in vulnerable spots to show. Hey, I don't know I need help. It's our job as leaders to foster that environment than to China. I don't wanna say private, but get out team members to feel like it's okay. Okay. To be vulnerable. It's okay to ask questions and to know that we no matter the circumstances. We have their back. How do you implement that kind of philosophy in the real world? I guess, like in the day to day. I know that you have pressures, right? Like you have performance metrics you have to meet, and you have to get them accomplished through others. So the people that are on your team, you're accountable for results that they produce. And, you know, so if you've got somebody who's kind of struggling in terms of meeting their results or meeting their metrics, and it sounds like you're saying it's your job to then get them up there. I know you have a lot of pressure, and you have limited time because lots of people are buying for your attention. Sure. So how do you actually balance that kind of tally in real situations, knob? So, you know, I'm gonna be lying if I told you, it's not challenging at times it certainly is. I know any other leader can share the same fan. We, you know, we all wanna believe in an ideal situation, but. You know, Todd leaf ever ever happens. So it just a matter of sticking Jones. I think consistency in the message that you're Elaine, 'cause all teams are always gonna look to the way we behave at the minimum emulates. Meaning if at the face of fresher nights, versity, whether it's a, you know, revenue metric, or whatever may be the case, all of a sudden, all these good ideas like you said, all of these philosophies, go out the window, as soon as the situation gets challenging, we're gonna see on trustworthy in Alabama to motivate engage, our team is gonna decrease. I know again, engagement is a big word right now on the workforce versus people that just, you know, show up to work versus employs that are actually engaged in what they do. I think we need to be careful where we stopped to be inconsistent, but to kinda moat directly answer questions. I think it starts with that idea of. Hey, I'm here to do. My job is to. Make you the best that you can be, whether it's in our organization or whether it's, you know later down the road, maybe outside of it. I wanna be here to support you and then he'll Bank stocks by lot. I'm here to support you, but I'm also here. Do you know to give you wide berth to give you some latitude to be able to do the amazing things and implement the great ideas that you have versus putting you in a very small space that you can operate out of think Stephen Covey talks about it as well. He uses a concept that I really, really love from the speed of trustee. Refers experience with his father about the backyard than he refers to the as long as you keep your backyard, green in plain, no matter how you get accomplished. Target goal. Everything's gonna be okay. Any few Nate might have. If you need support. For example, if you've never heard about the, the invention of lawnmower say on how to use it out show you how to use it. I'll give you all the tools in all the suppo-. To be successful. But that ownership is on you on kinda going back to empowering our team members to take on projects and you asked me about time management, part of it is, you know, trusting employees are able to accomplish the job versus you know, I'm the manager, I'm the boss. I'm the leader, whatever titled wanna put on aids. That means everything gets handled by me, which, you know, leads to a lot of bad outcomes, because at the end of the day, typically leaders want to advance themselves. Any four not showcasing how great it is to be in opposition, which, you know, they have great benefits in the have a lot of advantages, but they also have a lot of responsibilities unloved challenges, like discussing, so making our jobs seem like something that a lot of people will want to aspire to or some- somehow if we can replicate ourself inspire our team members to want to. Zuma position not only creates better more engage working force on, but also gives us fraternities. Yeah, I like that. So I know that I've seen in your pictures. At least it looks like you've got a lot of times, where people are well, I'd love to tell us more about this training like you, do these trainings, where it looks like you're asking your team members to create the training in the liver it. So it looks like you're engaging them in, in part of the ongoing development. Tell us more about that in maybe tell us a success story, if you can. Sure. Absolutely. So I think again, when you deliver content than, especially I can only presenting one certain way. And I think that affected efficacy of one's ability to motivate or engage inspire, especially if it's on a regular weekly basis, kinda diminishes and the idea of letting others, especially those aspiring leaders giving them the. Fraternity to deliver content and come up with ideas, and faced with the reality of, hey, I need to present in fines of my colleagues than tears. We already know the public speaking is a major fearful all that the them not pretending to not only develop themselves, but it gives voice and perspective. That is different from, you know, from the quote unquote. I'm the boss I need to, you know, say the corporate line Omar to the tune of the corporate office, whatever may be the case. Now, this is coming from a later with in the team somebody that doesn't necessarily have the title. I think sometimes those if you wanna call it leaders within the team, title, Slater's can have a much bigger impact than we are able to do. So from the fact of opposition as far as example at planning. But I'll share one that's recently happened. I was fortunate enough to get to work with. A lot of young individuals. Just due to the nature of the industry. One of minute trainers, which she just came into the failed. When we started this location finally enough about a year ago. Now new to the field new to the industry, but amazingly talented amazingly, Embiid shis, just a sponge to you will recently. She was able to get promoted to one of the assistant manager roles in all division, which is a great honor, especially during it so quickly and being youngest she is when she delivered the meeting recently discussing actually, the golden circle so that concept from Simon Santic, I didn't give too much of structure, either, basically gave a free rein man, actually, I discussed with her today earlier today. And that's something that she valued tremendously the fact that I gave her the latitude and gave her the trust without necessarily giving all the guidelines, exactly how wanted than let her own it, and deliver great content. It was great to see. See the engagement from some of peers that may be sometimes not as gauge because they've heard me speak, you know, weekly for the last year man, just seeing different voice different energy. I think it can deliver great results. And again show some other team members that might be a little timid might be a little shy might be a little sceptical about their own abilities, saying one of their peers in front of them inspires them to, you know, for pseudo goals pursue those on Bishen themselves. That's great while totally you develop people when you give them the ability to try things, and make mistakes, spoonfeed them everything that they need to do. That's a great story. Thank you for sharing that. So the other thing I noticed a lot about the things that you share is it seems like you guys play a lot of games. Right. I mean it looks like it looks like. Sheer craziness in silliness, like four seven over there. She. Oh, okay. So what, what are you trying to accomplish? And tell us some of those strikes. What are you doing there? Sometimes, especially in the corporate setting, we need to have meetings, and sometimes those meetings just meetings for the sake of meetings. And I know especially in the health and fitness industry. It's hard to put to the bunch of trainers down, but I'm sure it is full any work environment because I know will you know, we're working with business professionals all the time. The idea of productive meeting is somewhat elusive in most industries. So keeping that meeting gauge, it's not just a privilege, too late. But it's I've, you does Malva responsibility. It's my responsibility to make meetings on most as entertained for going to the movies or we're going to see a show. So that's kinda underlying thought of what I'm trying to achieve is. I'm planning my meetings, but also it's about shirt. Experience as we know that sharing experiences a something that is a great way to really quickly build trust among teams in, we know that trust is a great way to move that, you know, performance or revenue or you know, end metric needle once we have teams that trust each other that like each other all those things kind of falling to place if you wanna look into the concept of the hearts service profit chain, but going back to the meetings 'cause I beg rest. I think team building activities again, foots people in place to be vulnerable, but not just on their own. But with the rest of the team something that, you know, might take off the tension of the day today, minutia or just kinda do things differently. We don't often get to play twerk as adults. And I'm not saying we need to do stuff that, I'll kids necessarily will do but activities that can. Highlights. I always try to finish one of those team building activities with the idea of. Hey, what did we measure today? So, yeah, we may be built paper airplanes today. But what was the difference between the group that was immensely successful to the group that, you know, didn't do so well, and you know, getting those insights, and then we can translate, those make those parallels to our on the business out of things. Whether it's communication teamwork trust things of that nature. And the biggest fan is just in upper unity to blow off some steam, and I really think I can speak for modernisation. But I'm sure it's true for most generally speaking, the big mission, statesman, told the you know, the lowesforpros of any organization is not changed drastically over very long period of time. So when to be very selective on. How we deliver what comes down the pipeline? What's delays initiative in be able as leaders to recognize what is the best way to present it. And how do we keep it close to mission statement? And how do we keep it to were one of the expression that one of my talk night, really like to use his majoring in the minors, other, we make sure that we stay on the big task attend not stop into lose people in their engagement by rarely, you know, dealing with stuff that ultimately don't make that much of a difference. Yeah. Like, don't sweat the small stuff. Exactly. Nice. So what's your best advice? In addition to everything that you've been sharing. So great for helping existing team members continued to stay engage. That's a tricky on. I think kinda bets are are of being a great leader 'cause I think if you were to ask me, what is one of the most challenging part of my? Job is that I need to be chameleon out, whether you have five team members thirty a hundred whatever may be the case H one of those individuals is gonna require a little bit of a different interaction limited with different approach. I like to try and get to know. My team members on a personal level as much as possible again, going back to that trust factor once that trust is, they're able to move much faster, whether it's on those like you mentioned earlier those pleasant conversations that we all love, but also during some of those mole, you know, difficult conversation where we might need to share something that he's not so great without team members. Oh, maybe we need some behavioral change or correction on. But again, going back to how to keep people engage. I think it's like you said earlier, I don't know how you manage your time time is biggest asset and investing in our people is, I think the greatest way to show them their value, and give them the love and attention that they deserve. So. Constantly put in some idea of. Hey, how great you on? What can we do to make you better? What are your expiration this moment, and not what we want them to do as later as I think, sometimes, especially if you'll at competitive individual, especially, which let's say, I would generalize same most leaders other very competitive. They're very driven. Sometimes it's really easy to say while you are extremely talented. Here's what I think you should do ABCD to get to be the next general manager of. So and so, and sometimes those individuals lights, great compliment winning to hear what they're looking for what their aspersions event, though it might, sometimes none of -sarily align, with what we might think is best on. You mentioned that earlier when he to allow some of our team members at some situations, not always the opportunity to try something on. Their own to try there and the as implement them even though we might know that they might fail. All they might full short or they might not be successful because I think we can all agree. I'll biggest learning experience. I usually when we failed to achieve that win all achieve that target. That's where we really have to look back and say, hey, here's what I've done. Here's where my MRs were next time I want make that error. And it takes a lot of self control undisciplined for you as a leader to not swoop in save them from themselves. Absolutely. It's a mentally challenging. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome will Dan, I would like to talk to you forever more. But we're getting close to that time. So before you share that one specific action tip that you will, what's new and exciting in your horizon. These days right now I'm in the process of really trying to Mandarin develop some of my upcoming times I was fortunate enough to be able to. Remote several of my leaders on so now have a lot of emerging new talent. So just investing that time that I mentioned in their success, and growth is being something that is being front and center, man, something that, you know, I'm extremely passionate about, so it's energizes me every day. So it's, you know, Serena great time in my professional career right now, fabulous. And what's one specific action that our listeners can take today tomorrow this week that can help them upgrade their own leadership success? So this one is really, really simple in really easy to do. And I can say as being immensely impactful every team that I've been a part of being receiving feedback on a n it's great. You'll team members it's really easy as a leader as a manager to commun- straight fit in the morning and get locked in your office and get going on Alder report in the project. Whatever may be that we're working on. We're extremely busy. But. That you Manninger action that. Hello with morning. How are you today? Are the kids, some of those personal questions apps seen makes a tremendous impact was, unfortunately that small interaction is outside of the norm on. It's really easy. All it takes is a har- you. It's literally takes anywhere between two to five minutes, do the beginning of the day, do that the end of the day before you leave just circa throw your entire team. Make sure they're in a good spot. You know, say goodbye, I think that's in my experience, made a tremendous impact than it's really easy. An actionable that stumping that you can stop implementing tomorrow around that it's it really is super simple. And it really is unfortunate. How many people don't take the time to actively proactively consciously make the effort to do that? And I agree with you. It's that human connection that can make everything go fast. Mr. or can totally derail everything when it's missing. Absolutely. Yeah. Awesome. Well, how can people stay in touch with you? Learn more from about your Dan available on major social media outlets. Whether it's Facebook or Instagram on she'll share my handle later on. But I'm also lable via Email. But yeah, I would love to with anybody. I'm always Mick cited to share leadership tips. Like I said earlier, I'm not in original thinker. So anything I can do to implement mice skills. All the skills of others is something that I rarely Sean. I really appreciate that you came on. I don't know if I've shared this with you, Dan. But most of the people that I bring on guests are actually quote unquote, original thinkers ride like their their, their thought leaders there authors. You know, they're, they're experts and they have something interesting to share. But what I crave to bring onto my show and it's harder for me to find is exemplary leaders people who actually do a good. Job as leaders were not trying to go out and sell themselves as leadership experts, they're just going to work in and doing it, and that's hard to find because, you know, the minute that you tell me that you're an expert in leadership doubt. Usually you, you don't get to say that about yourself someone else has to say that about your right. So it's hard. It's hard to. I wanna hear like listeners, listen, Palley growers, if you know, people that are remarkable that are exemplary that are, that are the kind of people that we wanna learn from they're out there doing it put me in touch with them because I wanna see them. You know, you, you didn't ask to be on the show. I invited you in your. I think you're probably surprised this is not the kind of thing you do day-to-day basis much time you're just doing your job. Right. But I've watched you because you shares think you for sharing what you do. I, I think that is so wonderful added really allows you to become a Roma for others. I'm not even sure what your intention is. But for me, it allowed me to see what you're doing. And because of my. Line of work. I see kind of like the actually the under what do you call it like the undertones? I know what you're doing, but I don't know if it's obvious to others, and I really appreciate what you're doing. So it's my son. Yeah. Well done, thank you. Thanks for being a role model. Thanks for doing great work. And let's check in again in the future. So we can hear about even more things that you are discovering that you can share with others, perfect Bubby happy to thank you so much Ellie. Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you. It's an really great pleasure. For me to be able to showcase to you someone who is doing exemplary leadership work, and it is a personal pleasure. Of course, when it is someone that I know and have been lucky enough to be able to watch him do this and watch him grow over the years. And what a great job he's been doing and he's going to continue to skyrocket in his career. I have no doubt. You're going to be hearing about him more. I hope that you enjoyed it and that you will take action. I think that he shared tons of actionable advice. And so just choose the police even wanting to start working on this week, and then continue to add new ones as you master the ones you've already done. I'd love to hear what you thought I'd love to hear what you've tried. I'd love to hear other ideas, and as I said, if you know other exemplary leaders because usually it's not the people who self promote themselves as exemplary leaders that are the bona fide exemplary leaders it's usually the ones that are just doing their job and doing a good job. And no one is. Singing their praises necessarily, but I'd love to and I'd love to share them because they become the best role models. They are actually doing it. So if you have people like that, that, you know, please put me in touch with them. I would love to potentially feature them on a future episode of the talent show. Well, I appreciate your listening in, I put lots of stuff in the show, including that I did with Dan, pink and some of the resources Dan mentioned. And of course how to stay in touch with him. So a great place to land is the show notes page, which is on. Telegraph dot com. And that's also a place where you can fill in to get my free resource, which is ten mistakes leaders making how to avoid them that allows you to avoid making those mistakes, but also to stay in touch with me. All you have to do is go to telling grow dot com on the show notes page for the podcast and just give me your Email address, and the rest is easy from there. All right, talent growers. Thanks for listening. I appreciate you Moleli July, your leadership development strategists year, Attala grow. 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138 - Sticky Hair Monster

Secular Buddhism

28:00 min | 5 months ago

138 - Sticky Hair Monster

"Hello, and welcome to another episode of the secular Buddhism podcast. This is episode number one, hundred and thirty eight I am your host, Noah Rochetta, and today I'm going to talk about sticky hair monster and the battle against our thoughts and emotions. Keep in mind you don't need to use what you from Buddhism to be a Buddhist. You can use what you learn to be a better whatever you already are. If you're new to the podcast episodes, one through five are a good place to start to get an intro to all of the key concepts ideas and teachings or you can visit secular dot com and click on start here. If, you're looking for an online community to practice with and interact with consider becoming a supporter of the podcast by visiting secular Buddhism dot, com and clicking on the top link. The says join our online community on Patriot on and something new to the community. We are now using discord and the discord APP and platform allows us to engage in a much more efficient way. We have chats around different topics, podcast episodes, and all things related to Buddhism life in general. So if you're looking for a community. Join us. there. Now let's get started with the podcast episode. So in the last podcast episode, the Zenko on shared is called Joe Shoes. Mu. And I want to share a couple of thoughts about this. The the Cohen itself goes like this Joe Shoe was a famous Chinese and master who lived in Joe Shoe the province from which he took his name one day a troubled monk approached him intending to ask the master for guidance a dog walked by the monk asked Joe Shoe has that dog a Buddha nature or not? The monk had barely completed as question when Josue shouted Mu. So I want to share some thoughts and he starts come from the Book Zenko on's, and this is a book written by Gyo May Kubo say the of all the Cohen's Joe. Shoes Mu is the most famous. It's extremely popular with Zen Masters who frequently assign it to novices if the student tens properly to business mu comes to resemble a hot iron ball stuck in his throat, he can either swallow it nor spit out the importance of shoes mu is it's succinct one syllable revelation of Buddhism. So little background here, and and and again, all of these thoughts come in from the book Zen Cohen's Baio Make Kubo say. He says, Mu, is the negative symbol in Chinese meaning not or no thing Mu. Is also a basic concept in oriental philosophy. There is a relative mu and an absolute mu, the relative mu and Chinese characters is the opposite of you. The letter you which means is the absolute mu of Zen Buddhism transcends is and is not in order to understand this Cohen. It is necessary to be aware of this distinction when the monk asked, Shoshu has that Dog Abboud nature not he was asking not only from the standpoint of his own troubled mind. But from the Basic Buddhist teaching that all beings have Buddha Nature Joe shoe realized this his Mu as an answer was a blow aimed at breaking or untying the monks attachment to that teaching. The essence of Buddha's teaching is non attachment. All human troubles and sufferings without exception are due to attachment even attachment to the idea of non attachment is attachment. Joe Shoe wanted the monk to transcend the relative world transcend the teachings, Transcend Mu, transcend Buddhism, and gain the free and independent world of enlightenment. Satori or enlightenment is this new dimension or perspective in life ordinary human life has always attached to the relative the is and the is not good and bad right and wrong. But life itself is constantly changing the condition of society changes right and wrong often changes. Every situation is different according to time and place. So static concepts are not appropriate to life this thus mu is crucial offers no surface upon which the intellect can fasten. The word mu must be experienced as the world of. Mu. So those are the thoughts from the book Zen Cohen's Baio Make Kubo say regarding the specific Cohen Joe Shoes Mu. And I I wanted to share this. Cohen because as the book mentions, it's most popular, perhaps the most famous of the Cohen's. But to have a little bit of background, you need to understand the answer. So essentially, what's happening here is you have a teacher who's being asked a question by a student by a novice monk and the question is so out of place because. You know the Buddhist teaching of Buddha nature is that all beings have buddha nature. So it's like someone coming law coming along and asking a very obvious question which he should know the answer to according to the teaching that all beings have Buddha nature. The answer to the question does a dog have Buddha nature is obviously yes. But josue knew that he was asking this question that should be obvious. So instead of giving the obvious answer, he gave the answer that the monk was not expecting by shouting Moo or no, or no thing. And in the tradition of Cohen's and in the tradition of Zan, this is kind of the shock and all approach the shock and awe is that that's not what I was expecting. So here you have this novice monk asking a question, get an answer that he's not expecting. And it leaves him confused and that's the exact state that Cohen's and oftentimes Zen in general want to leave you in because it's trying to break you free of the conceptualization 's that you're making in your own mind. So if I know the obvious answer is yes and I'm immediately the hearing shouting that the answer is no. What that does is at least me thinking wait a second but I, thought you know I I'm guessing that that's exactly what the monk did right away he was like wait but but you know and trying to recall but this teaching says this, and that's exactly what the the master would want to leave you. Very confused for a moment because in that confusion, you transcend the world of is or isn't To me, it's almost a way of saying. Let's entertain the question again, it was even an appropriate question. What is a was it a relevant? Because if it's not what benefit does it give you if if I were to answer the question for you and I think that's what the the master is in hoping to do here he's not answering the question. While he is answering the question with your not expecting, which is the only thing you can do to make someone really start to think and I would suppose that maybe this monk with time could walk away and realize, okay we'll that was dumb to ask him that because his answer doesn't matter what if the answer is now would if the answer is yes. So what what does that say about you and your Buddha nature I think that's along the lines that this Cohen was trying to go about at least that's how it it makes sense to me. So I like to think of this one and apply it to. My Day to day life you know the answers that we often seek to find about life are you could you could almost say it's silly questions. And I've experienced this firsthand right going through a faith crisis and then becoming a seeker and looking for another world view that might make more sense when you're on that path of seeking and you're looking for answers to life's big questions. Buddhism comes along and it does this. It gives you the answer Mu, which is to say you're not GonNa get the answer that you wanted and in not having the answer that you wanted you're only left with one option. Let's entertain the question. Where did the question come from? Does that question even matter what would happen if you did answer the question you know then what and I think that's what this Cohen does. It immediately brings you back to wait. Let me let me think about that question a little bit more. So, that is the Cohen Joe. Shoes Mu Hopefully, this is a co on that made you kind of think and will you'll remember this and future future instances where questions come to mind You can assign a little bit more value to the question a little bit less value to the answer and that to me is Buddhism in a nutshell it's all about the questions not so much about the answers. Okay. So with that said, I do want to share a couple of thoughts about a story old Buddhist story and I'm GONNA call this sticky hair monster I. Think the original story is called Prince. Five weapons. And I might be wrong but I, think this comes from the stories or tales I can't remember I came across it a long time ago. But I came across it again in a book called Buddha at bedtime. So, in the Book let me make sure your Buddha at bedtime. It has a lot of little stories and I I've been reading these stories for years. Now to my kids at night I went through a phase where every night we would read one. It's been a while since I've read one but one of the stories that really stuck to me is the story of. Sticky. Hair, sticky hairy monster, and it's become kind of a fun story that I revisit and play the game often with my youngest daughter who's four and we play this game and sticky monster, and she's trying to escape from sticky monster but I think there's a really valuable lesson in the story. So I want to share the story with you. This comes directly from the book Buddha Bedtime. And the story goes like this. It was a beautiful sunny afternoon when a boat. Prince Hector came from overseas into the harbor and before the young Prince left the vessel. The captain warned Him Your Highness while you have been away training to be a warrior, an evil monster called sticky hair has come to live in the forest. So I advise you not to take that route to the palace instead go the long way home around the mountains. Thank you for your advice replied hector but I'll be fine I. WanNa get home before sunset. And I have all my weapons I need them after all he thought I'm a trained warrior. I'm not afraid of a silly old monster and the young prince started a strode boldly on into the woods. Just as prince actor was beginning to think that the monster didn't exist he reached to clearing in the forest and there stood the most gigantic ugly creature. He had ever seen the monster was as big as a house and completely covered in matted hair. He looked like a living breathing very horrible haystack. The creature had a huge head and he stared at the prince with is as big as dinner plates too big Orange Tusk stuck out of his enormous mouth and his teeth were green and revolting his belly was big. And round like a beach ball and covered in large Pale orange spots, gir-. Sticky hair. What do you think you're doing in? My would little man you look like a tasty morsel and I'm going to eat you for dinner I'm not afraid of you you horrible old monster replied Hector I'm a warrior. I can easily defeat you with my sword I. Dare you to fight me swiftly as the wind the prince leaped forward and thrust his sword at the monster. But to his surprise, it just stuck to the creatures sticky hair. So the Prince left his sword there quickly rolled out of the way got to his feet and grabbed his bow. he shot Arrow after Arrow at the monster but like the sword, each one just became tangled in his sticky hair the prince was astonished ha ha ha boom sticky hair. You're a very funny little man. You'll never beat me then he shook himself from his ugly head down to his big smelly toes and all the princes Eros dropped down to the ground hector now had only his. Club left for protection. So he swung it at the at sticky hair with all his might, but it too became caught in the monsters hair and was pulled from the prince's strong grip. I'm not defeated yet. He shouted my weapons may be useless but I'm young and strong and I'll fight you with my fists. He cried as he ran and leapt on the monster and got firmly stuck. Even now as Prince Hector dangled from the creatures sticky hair, he continued to act fearlessly so much so that the monster started to wonder exactly what gave him such courage why are you not afraid of me little man I could gobble you up and a snap and a crack. He threatened fiercely still hanging from the monsters tangled hair hector was busy thinking about what to do next all of a sudden it came to him. He realized that he would have to use his brains to outwit the creature instead of his weapons. So he shouted up to sticky hair. I'll tell you. I am not afraid of you. My skin is coated in poison. So if you eat me, you'll die I dare you to eat me sticky hair didn't believe hector first but the more the prince insisted the more worried the monster became I'd like to eat him but I can't risk getting poisoned. He muttered reluctantly he pulled the prince from his matted coat and set him on the ground unharmed well, fearless little man you've. You've convinced me. You're telling the truth and I don't WanNa die so I suppose I'll have to let you go. He said grudgingly. Hector was delighted not only had he did the monster and saved his own life but he had also learned an important lesson that the most powerful defense had been inside him all along his own intelligence, not his strength and not his weapons. Looking up into the monster's big is the young prince said. I'm very grateful to use sticky hair, not just for releasing me but also for teaching me that I don't have to fight to be brave strong and clever. Would you like to know my secret? If you promise not to eat me, I'll tell you as a reward for sparing my life surprised sticky hair agreed although the monster had never been defeated until that day he had always been frightened of people. In fact, he had only attacked people to stop them from attacking him but now the creature was to learn to be fearless like hector. So he let the young. Prince become his teacher and friend and the strangest thing happened the more sticky hair learned how to use his brain the less he felt the need to harm others using his intelligence brought the creature great happiness, and gradually he was transformed from scary lonely monster into a friendly forest giant Prince. Hector, let all the local people know that the monster had completely changed and gradually they became his trusted friends bringing him food and living with him in peace and harmony, and the new eager to please sticky hair repaid their kindness by protecting them and guiding travelers safely through the forest. And then the book goes on to say, sometimes, it feels like there's no option. But to fight our way out of the difficult situation, a wise person knows that it's their intelligence, not their physical strength that will help them to win in the end. So. That's the version from the children's book Buddha Bedtime. The original story the way it was it's been shared and passed down the story of the print of Prince Five. Weapons. Is Essentially, stadium that The Of all the weapons you can possess the one that is more powerful than all the others is the mind and that's the old story of how Prince five weapons didn't kill sticky hair but instead taught him the ways of peace and enlightenment and their other little minor variations of the story So all in all the story of sticky monster for me has been a fun way to convey this concept to my kids that the moral of the story is that often the only way to win a fight is by not fighting. It's by using your your brain, your intelligence, and to me this somewhat echoes a little bit from the last podcast episode the idea of nothing being something oftentimes by doing nothing we are doing something. I think that in our culture were. Of the mindset of conquering of overcoming, and sometimes we approached Buddhism in this very same way it's like we're going to overcome the EGO and we're going to conquer are. The nece conquer are negative attributes, my thoughts and feelings and emotions that I don't like I'm going to force them out away from me. I'm going to win over them. And when we do that, we're setting ourselves up for the same mistake that the prince and sticky monster had which is sticky monster can't be beat. You can approach sticky monster with all the weapons you have, and the result is going to be the same they're going to get stuck in a doesn't do anything to this big monster. So, the harder that you try the harder harder that you fight. The it doesn't do anything you're still going to fail. But. What happens when we approached the situation from rather than overcoming with the understand with the with the attitude of trying to understand and trying to befriend, and this reminds me of the quote Pame. A show Dron says meditation practice isn't about trying to throw ourselves away and become something better. It's about befriending who already are. And I encounter this quite a bit in my interactions with podcast listeners and supporters who reach out and want to discuss specific situations or stances that they're going through in their lives and encounter this concept quite a bit with anger for example, where somebody is experiencing a set of circumstances causes and conditions that they're experiencing anger in their life and often they're angry at the fact that they're angry. Or you know if you're upset, you might be upset if you're not at peace and just kind of this interesting place to be because the only real piece that we can have comes when were at peace with the fact that we're not at peace and the reason that works is because life is always changing again like the Tetris game analogy. There's a new piece on the horizon every time the new piece shows up it's a whole new game. You're always plane the new game. And, that's exactly how life works. Life is always changing. You're always dealing with something new today it might be the loss of a job or the loss of a loved one or the flat tire on the road or the CO worker that is annoying you or you might be dealing with a really good job and you're happy with this or. You're dealing with a worldwide pandemic or whatever it is. Right it's it's it's always changing. And and the past the fact that it's always changing means you always get to revisit this and say, okay now, how do I play the game? And, and you can literally do this minute by minute because every minute life has changed and all it takes his awareness to see that. So, when were angry at the fact that we're angry? Were compound in the situation anger is natural and if I'm experiencing anger and I'm okay with the fact that I'm experiencing anger then I haven't there's no problem. Sure angry but there's no problem with being angry. So life is good I'm a piece if I and before I, know it the causes and conditions of the anger might be gone and then anger's gone and I'm okay that I'm not angry. So again I am a piece at peace when I'm angry I'm a piece when I'm not angry and that to me is at the heart of what this story of sticky monsters trying to get at its the The twist I think in the story is that we are sticky monster or sticky monster, his US right I think Robert Wright talks about this in his book why Buddhism is true he talks about the modules of the mind and the concept of the modules of the mind is the understanding that I have many different aspects of me that make me me. There's the me that is in the role of of apparent of a dad of a brother of a of a son of a podcast of all the things that I do that make me these are the various modules of the mind. And within these modules, there are the thoughts and the feelings and the emotions and the memories. These are what what Buddhism we would call the five SCON-. Does right the different things that make you you and yet you're not any of them. But when I understand that about myself if I realized that I'm experiencing anger. It's something that I'm experiencing but I'm also the observer of the experience and I'm also the one that that feels I like this or I don't like this and all of that's okay. If just observe it. And what it leaves me with this this important understanding that just like with sticky monster the monster is the monster can't change the fact that it's ugly that a stinks that it's hair is sticky are all the things that are unpleasant about it. But what I can change as when I understand that this thing isn't going away and I can't fight it away I'm left with one option. I can befriend it and try to understand it and all of this happens by using the weapon of the mind. Not The traditional weapons you would think of as weapons, and that's what happens in that story. So to me the moral of the story. Is that I am the prince, but I am also sticky monster certain parts of my mind when I'm experiencing anger. There it is. That's the big sticky monster. I'm angry and I don't like that I'm angry will there I am I'm fighting the thing that I cannot win now but if I mckay that I'm angry now I'm piece again and there's the two things as the prince and they're sticky monster there's The observer of. The anger am experiencing and there's the anger I'm experiencing, and those are the two things they can sit there side by side perfectly apiece in content because there's nothing wrong with being angry there's nothing wrong with sitting next to the monster there's nothing it's it's fighting the monster that creates the problem I. think it's the same with our thoughts and feelings and emotions. It's fighting my emotions being angry that I'm angry that aggravates the problem. So, that's the key takeaway for me with this specific lesson with the story of of sticky hair sticky hair monster. And I I've been working on this story for months. Now with like I said with my own kids and and we play this game called sticky monster and I'm sticky monster and they're all trying to fight me will they can never beat me and always trap them, and then I hold them and they've learned that the trick has they have to start asking me questions where are you from sticky monster? How old are you sticky monster? A feel today and as they talk to me, then I start answering their questions and I loosen the grip and then at the end of the game were sitting next to each other and they keep talking to me and that's when they can slowly they have to slowly walk away. But in the game that we play if they tried to run or they try to escape me or they try to fight me they, they don't win So I'm hoping that with time this little game and this little story will transition into a deep understanding of the nature of life with them and the relationship they have with their own thoughts and feelings emotions. And I think that's the final thought that I would wanNA share here. Is that what we're not trying to change our thoughts and feelings and emotions as we experienced them as we're experiencing them, all we're trying to do is change the relationship we have with our thoughts, feelings and emotions as we experience them. Because to me, that's the key. That's it. That's the. The difference of running and fighting sticky monster and just exerting all your energy. That's pointless. Casual Never GonNa win versus sitting and talking to sticky monster using your mind and understanding and befriending, and again to me, the twist is the recognition that I'm actually both I'm the prince and I'm sticky monster and been fighting myself this whole time, which makes the fight that much more ridiculous when I think about it that way. So That's all they have to share about that concept of sticky monster and the relationship we have to our thoughts and feelings and emotions. So. Before ending this podcast episode, I want to leave you with another Zenko on to think about And this is one that I think I've mentioned before I can't remember I'm reaching that stage where I can't remember what things I've said before and what things I haven't. But I, guess it never hurts to mention things more than once. So the Zen Koan I'd like to leave with you at the end of this podcast episode think about is called no beard. and. It goes like this. Why? Kuan complained when he saw a picture of bearded bodey Dharma why hasn't that fellow a beard? And that's it. That's the end of that Cohen. All right. I'll share my thoughts on that one in the next podcast episode as always. Thank you for listening until next time.

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Ep. 53 Missing Link Review

Plaza Podcast

25:14 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 53 Missing Link Review

"Ooh. Welcome to the plaza podcast episode Fifty-three. My name's Chris, I'm Joel we'd like to think our patriot supporters pitcher on is a very big thing for us. We are very grateful for all the people that are on there. We just got three new ones last week, and we're very thankful for you. Also, if you are patriots supporter, thank you so much 'cause you help us be able to do the cool giveaways that we have going on and all the early, showings and the stuff we're able to send out to also thank all so much. If you're not a patriot supporter, and you would like to be just go to patriot dot com forward slash plaza cinema four we'd also like to thank our sponsor next level laser tag, new company, serving wise, insurrection county, call nine four zero six to seven next to book your mobile party today are check their website out at WWW dot next. Level laser tag dot com. Okay. So today's episode we are missing link yet. We are. We'll be reviewing missing link. You actually just got out of it this evening, and I watched it this morning. So this actually stars Hugh Jackman and Zach got galloping neck issue has that golfing. I leaned over my friend. I was like I swear that Zach galifianakis. He was like, I don't know. And then immediately afterwards, I looked it up. And I was like it by told you. Yeah. He does a good job. Like, it doesn't you? Don't know what right off hand that. That's that galvanizes. He does a really unique kind of voice. Yeah. And if you're not familiar with that out Gallup, and is he he's the main character one of the main characters in the hangover movies. Yeah. That played what his name. I can't remember. Man. Yeah. But he was the one with the baby. Yeah. Remigia? He was bigger dude with sunglasses baby. Yeah. Exactly. So and then everybody knows you Jackman. He's done a lot of good work. Obviously, everyone knows him for wolverine. But he's done this past one. You know, showman away that was lame as he's in a lot of musicals because he's actually Broadway. Yeah. So he has so he he's in this one. He doesn't really good job to he does. Yeah. I enjoyed his voice work in it. Now, this is not your typical animated movie. Yeah. So basically, I there hasn't been as much presence in the media about this. So if you're not familiar, it's basically about Hugh Jackman character. He's kind of this, adventurer explorer. Yeah. Yeah. He's going after the big game. Like it starts off. He he's looking for the Loch Ness monster. Right. Yeah. And then he goes on from there. He's he's basically wanting to enter this prestigious adventure club, basically. Yes, he's like banned from. Yeah. Life or something? So yeah, he's trying to prove that he is a good adventure. And so that's what takes on this quest to find the yeti. He gets this mysterious letter. And so it will not the yeti, but the south Asfaw foot. Yeah. Same thing. But yeah. So that's kind of getting you into the movie. That's what it's about. Hugh Jackman going on this adventure with the sasquatch which is voiced by that golfing Akkas. And. Yeah, just kicks off from there kind of. That's basically an intro, wet, your whistle. Exactly. And now if you're not sure what kind what you were saying like this. Stop animation was. Yeah. Yeah. Clay mation stop motion. Yeah. If you're not familiar with it, basically if you remember Kubo in the two strings, the that's another company. To it's the same. It's also the same person resume writer. Yeah. It's Chris Butler. He actually screen wrote. This one any directed it. He also screen wrote Kubo in the two strings very which is was good when too, but he also back in twenty twelve he directed paranormal. So he's an pair. Norman was eighty eight percent on rotten tomatoes with Kubo at ninety seven. And of course, missing link is at eight. So this guy's got a nice little track record. So far. He's familiar with. I guess the the scene yet airy kind of niche seen many studios are doing the stop motion animation anymore, obviously. Because I mean, we have the future. So all have to go through all this. Yeah. All the technology nowadays. It's just it's ridiculous lazy. Yeah. You can't the the amount of time and effort that goes into these stop motion is pretty insane. Right. So. I'm going to admit though out. See I was never someone that really liked that top stuff like Walson grom it. Yeah. You know? I'm like that wasn't my thing. But I will say watching this. This movie was actually surprisingly good. It was funny. It was I actually was caught myself laughing quite a bit up. This a lot of jokes that you know, are kind of more highbrow for the the adults they're bringing in the children type thing 'cause they always good. Good animation. Always has a good mixture of jokes that are just for kids. Basically in the jokes that adult has good nods for the the adults to get as well. I mean, I even thought the first seen first couple minutes. Loch Ness part pretty entertaining. Yeah. Funny. It was and it's it's pretty action. Heavy some of the parts which I really liked. Yeah. In in speaking of that, it was only an hour and twenty five minutes long, and to be honest. It seems so much shorter. Yeah. It does go by pretty fast. So, but that's a really good thing. The Runtime I felt like it was very good. They they spaced everything out. They didn't drag. You know, there's not time to drag stuff on our twenty five minutes. So, yeah, it's another fast paced film. They did really good especially on the scenes when they're traveling to place a place how they map and the map. Oh, yeah. I love that aspect instead of just showing them traveling every single time. It just whip out in the map in kind of draw line where they're going. Yeah. Exactly. And they're they're it's none of this watching them vote on a train or whatever the ice may be. So I think that really helped out the pacing. Now, the other character, the other character and hair. What's her name Zoe Saldana? And if you're not familiar with her she she plays Gamarra's in guardians of the galaxy. So that's who voices the the girl in this one. What's her name or miss the fortnight scarlet for night or what's her name? I can't remember I actually have. I actually have it pulled the good. So. I'll just pull. She did a good job. She did she did. I didn't recognize Zoe Saldana out thinking it was going to be some Edina did Lena or night at Alina Fortnum and Hugh Jackman played sir Lionel frost, and of course, that galifianakis played Mr. lane or Susan. Yeah. That was really funny part of the movie. Yeah. And you know, you know, what they take a nod at doing that for the whole, you know, trans didn't they took a? Oh, yeah. I thought you meant like specific movie or something. So yeah, I I did notice that like the picture of him. It was just both of the men in the picture, whatever xactly. Yeah. But it was funny why he chooses the name Susan ES. So, but it was actually a really good movie. And I think it being surprisingly good. I have it in the thing is it's like Kubo impair Norman, it's they people think really, you know, they don't it's one of those under the radar babies and kids aren't usually used to the type of animation. So they're not used to you know, Klay mation. So at first it looks like, oh, I don't really understand this. It's not the same computer generated stuff they're used to. So they're usually not as excited about it. I've I find these more enjoyable almost as an adult you 'cause you can take in all the all the time and effort that was spent doing the stop motion. And they actually did I was looking. They did a special thing where they kind of use a puppet. So they are Klay mation of figures. But they they use the hollowed amount sometimes, and they would put this breathing thing in there. So that it would like expand and make it look like they're taking actual breaths. Right. So there's a lot of technical aspects that goes into this movie, and it paid off because some of the detail was crazy like the for of the the sasquatch would see like dirt and stuff in part of his for like, just, you know, little things like that that really stood out in like, wow, they took a lot of times, especially whenever he's eating that pie. Oh, yes. In his t you could see. Yeah. So yeah, I think they definitely did a wonderful job in that. So looking I so I'm really like I'm more on this movie now than I was. Yeah. Well, I so I mean, if you're familiar with like like, you said like Kubo and all those movies if you they have a good track record. So if you liked those you should come in expecting kind of the same high quality stuff in this film as well. Right. So so definitely definitely worth watching for. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think I recommended I think it's going to be one of these underrated movies, and you need to come see Asher. It is. It is going to be. It's not gonna make the money. Should right? That's what happened to Kubo's. Well, I think it didn't make as much money as they are hoping and for one this is very untimely release. You know, it's Reese released right between Zam and indicate. Yeah. And so it's going to only have like a two week run kind of make it's money because once endgame comes out, you know, no one seeing anything else. Yeah. For a while at least has 'cause I'm sure there's going to be plenty of the show time for that movie and rewatch people rewatching that. Thing for sure. But I mean in the end, I mean, I don't typically grade a whole lot of animated movies. But I'm definitely going to give this one a just a solid eight. Yeah. I was I think I'm gonna give it a solid as well. I didn't really have any negatives about the film. I don't think it didn't it didn't reach that Pixar peak. You know, like Pixar almost all of them are like almost perfect like, they just have all these different qualities. I think but this one is very good. It's like we said we both gave an eight so. Yeah, that's really high. That's like eighty percent on me. I think what they have on rotten tomatoes. I think that's fair. It's I think it's right there in the middle and it for anything. I mean, all the time and effort it took these people to make the movie go support him. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's worth it's worth coming to see for. Sure. I mean, if you don't know what to do this weekend. And you've seen a Cup. All of these other movies missing link is a is one that he should come definitely come out. It'll be it'll be one of those movies that you talked about as one of the most underrated films of the year. Probably. Yeah. Because sadly of its release date. Yeah. And that and that's unfortunate. But so I guess for transitioning into that since we are going to be getting in game, which I do wanna mention we are getting next week. We're getting breakthrough which know a lot of people recently have contacted me like churches instead of asking this in, you know, it's that her son or something balls in lake and basically is underwater for about an hour, basically vigorously fourteen minutes. Oh, yeah. Fourteen minutes, and but he's he's like, not breathing or something for almost. Yeah. That's right. And doesn't ever think he he's gonna live, and it's just a big miracle. So it's a big faith-based movie. And we've had a lot of churches in a lot of. Really wanna see this? And in this theater in this community in particular. We do very well with like face faith-based and true story type movies. Like, it's it's unbelievable on how many people. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty crazy. There's all you said groups like big groups like churches wanted to make an event out of it or. Yeah. And so they bring a lot of people, you know, the church's youth groups, and I mean, everybody comes to see these top of movies, and it's it so we're expecting that to actually do pretty well next week. And I think that's going to be a nice little filler leading up to in game. So now within game we have a lot of stuff going on. We have a watering very cool stuff. Oh, yeah. Studio. Yeah. We have some stuff right now in studio, but we put some of those pitchers on social media. It's on the plaza page. Yeah. Definitely on the plaza page. And I did put it on the Twitter page for plaza podcast. But so if you if you're not aware, and you haven't been on social media in the past three days, or whatever reason I don't know why you're not everybody is always on Facebook Twitter. Yeah. We have pops for the event specific or adventures in game. And you know, we have the Tony start. We have captain America. And we have little guy. Maybe might know. His name's Thanos Santos. We have the war. You know in there in those are in there actual night avenger suits, but Thanos is in his full armor with the Infinity gauntlet. He's decked out. Yeah. He's fully decked out. And he's he's actually a that particular pop is like a really popular right now. Yeah. And people are trying to get their hands on it. Yeah. And you snagged on guy did thank you to Cody from gang. Stop the Codey. Yeah. So big shoutout to him for really helping me out. So for us to get all this. But the other thing I did not put on there that we are getting that we are also doing a raffle for and we are getting the DVD's of all the first three of injure so avengers of age of Altron in Infinity war we are doing a bundle for a raffle. Which basically we're going to sell raffle tickets on opening night on Thursday. Yes. It'll be opening night on Thursday for the six o'clock showing and the raffles pretty much you're going to buy you can buy one ticket for a sorry. One dollar or two tickets. Which is good which is good especially for the the rare pops. Yeah there, but the rare pops we're doing as a as a you're getting a free raffle ticket purchase of a the special show. Oh, so when you come and buy a ticket you already good. You're getting a raffle taking one of the pops. Okay. Wow. That's awesome. So that's that is really I mean, it's really good. And we don't know for even getting more stuff the studio heads since anything. But we've heard that they are sending us something. Oh, yeah. I bet they do. They're wanting to you know, blow this one they want to get that top to your there. One to d rank whatever's I yeah. So I think it's one of their films actually get. Yeah. So we have we're gonna have some nice nice giveaways, and we're gonna put everything on Facebook. And everything to you know, what we're giving away and how to go about being able to enter, but definitely if you show up for the special showing by ticket. You're already gonna get a raffle ticket for one of the pops, you know to get a chance to win. But you wanna you know, definitely want to get that DVD set you pay a dollar. You're going to get two different raffle tickets that are gonna go toward the movie center. Good chance of winning so. Yeah. So you're going to have three tickets. So, you know, it's I think it's going to be worth it. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited. I want I want everyone to come. And I'll be here. Yeah. I'm gonna be here Thursday night. 'cause I'm gonna be doing the raffle giveaway. And I don't know. Are you going to be here? I am are you gonna watch it you want to help with a raffle. I I wanna do both. You wanna do both? You'll want to watch it and me I would already have watched it. Yeah. And I I don't want to won't oil anything and everything. But I'm I'm so excited for this movie. I mean, this is like one of the movies that I'm just like. I'm not even a big marvel fan Mike we talked about last week. I'm more of a DC fan. Right. But the big films like Infinity war and the the bigger captain America films, those I've actually enjoyed you know, it's it's the one offs. I haven't been except for like ant man in the wasp. I like that a lot. But usually, I don't I'm not that excited for a adventures film. I mean for our marvel film, but this one I because of how awesome Thanos was Josh Brolin played Thanos in the last one. I'm stoked to see what he he. He doesn't this. Yeah. I I can't way. It's it's gonna be great. So you definitely wanna come check that out. We're also I mean next week when we do think we're gonna I'm pretty sure we're going to review breakthrough. You know, I I know a lot of people really looking forward to this movie. So I'm pretty sure they wanna want us to talk about it. The will definitely probably put that out. But we'll probably still mention the giveaways for we'll have more specifics. Yeah. Yeah. And definitely keep an eye out on Facebook. Because will I will be putting everything that we're going to be doing in a post and showing what we have. And so in you know, it's gonna be it's gonna be boosted. It's gonna be it's gonna be all over the place. So hopefully, you said you're wanting to pack this. So Why's county coming get your tickets because we have plenty. I mean, I looked today. We've only sold ten only already preorder. Yeah. So so coming by for sure so coming by this weekend. Because other places they're going for thousands of dollars. So and you can come here pay eight who that's a lot cheaper. So come you definitely want to come? And check it out because I really don't think any other. I don't think any other theater is doing a giveaway. Probably not not a famous pop now or a DVD box set the adventures now, I know some of the bigger chains are doing like the whole marathon of the marvel my friend did that it was over twenty four hours. I'll here at the theater. That's crazy. Yeah. It's nuts. We are not doing that. We are not doing that. That's that's a lot. That's a lot of movie watching maybe Infinity war ended game. Maybe you know, some people have done that in the past where they've shown like the last one I can think of is they did that with the Harry Potter deathly hallows in the twilight breaking dawn through those are two parts. But they're one moving. They did that were and I think we actually did it where we'll yeah. On breaking. On. So I don't know. I wish we could. I know I think it may be short notice. But I don't know we maybe hard to fit in maybe it'd be kinda hard to fit in. But let me figure some things out. I'll see if that's something that is even on the table for us because I know we have some other obligations, but are tell you what what let's take it to Twitter something would even like to for that too for us to see that. Would you like to do that that something that you'd be interested in real poll going? Yeah. I'll will set a poll up on Twitter. See if you know, would you be interested in watching Infinity war first and then turn around to watch adventures in game. Yes, or no. I mean in game is three. And what almost three hours Infinity Ward's like two thirty because fischel Runtime I believe in game has was three hours. Fifty eight seconds. Was it? I thought it was something like three hours and like five minutes or something that may be with the credit probably. And we don't even know about any in credits. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, they're gonna I mean everything's been hush-hush. Yeah. I've seen when you watch a trailer. It's like bits and pieces and it repeats itself. They have been like completely. Hush. They were on the Jimmy Kimmel or Fallon the whole one is a lot of the cast. Yes in. Yeah. I bet they were had to be very tight lipped about what they may set on there. Oh, I imagine. But so we're really excited for this. I mean other than that. I do we have anything else to to add or no, I think again, I think it's important to just thank everyone that has signed up for patriots. Because like I mean, that's how you're we're able to get these cool pops and to do the movies the the bundle that you're bringing all these giveaways are actually money we earn from patriot. So like like I said last week. It's it's not like so we can make money or anything not making money off patriots. Now, literally. So that we can give back to the community. Right. And you know, we're actually just doing this for our for having fun. Yeah. This is fun. Yeah. And we like doing this in its enjoyable. So it's not like, we're, you know, making try to live off of. Yeah. We're only earn have. We're not living off of podcasting. Yeah. I mean in the future is at boss. Sure. But you know, we're not at that level. And but we definitely thank the actually we would like to thank the new subscribers of the podcast because we've definitely seen an increase in download in the past two and a half weeks and awesome. That's been great. Yeah. It's it's good to see the encouragement, you know. People listening in enjoying the podcast and saying, oh, yes sounds great. Good quality, all that type of stuff is very encouraging. Yeah. And there's things that we can do better feel free to tell. Sure. Yeah. I actually have one person I asked please listen. So that you can give constructive criticism. Yeah. He's like, well, I don't really have anything right now. Like mochi? That's fine. Yeah. But we do appreciate all of y'all in all like, you said all the people that have subscribing the new the three new patriots subscribers, and we're just very thankful for that. And yeah, wanna continue to means a lot to us. So, but, you know, hopefully, especially for the summer we want to these bigger movies that are coming out. We wanna do a lot of cool giveaways for these. And we wanna keep doing this. And, you know, keep doing reviews and anything else like that that we can come up with you know, we will share with you. But that will wrap it up today. A knows a little bit shorter than last week. But we do to movies last week though. Yeah, we did two movies and it with animated movies. There's not you can't really stretch it out a lot. You know? It's not a whole lot to say about him. Exactly. You don't wanna with short film like this. You don't wanna spoil? 'cause it's like you said very fast pace if you get into the meat of it. You're gonna end up spoiling something. So yeah. But just definitely come out. And you wanna see it? Yes. We recommend highly. Yes. But this film, but that will do it for today. So thank you for joining us on the plaza podcast. We'll see you soon.

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ExtraTime Radio: Jason Levien (D.C. United)

ExtraTime

51:07 min | 6 years ago

ExtraTime Radio: Jason Levien (D.C. United)

"You're listening extratime radio. Ultimate heightening. He was on fire last night at all because you guys like Drake peer word association before he can get you out of here. Eddie johnson. Quick win will city Simon board over Snapchat. Do you know what Snapchat is since Wiki faces are not your no, I do and Snapchat one at all my contacts. And I refused to give it my Simon. You are in improve. From New York, New York, you listen extratime radio. Siriusxm FC channel ninety four and MLS soccer dot com. I am Andrew we with me. Just David Goss. No Simon board. Here we not just I'm sorry. David back to actually introduce Simon as being here. And then at the last I can be like, oh, man. 'cause I you know, you get into those auto mode and felt like you're in one. I'm normally I'm at the beginning of episodes. Of course, Simon Borg is down cavorting in Miami. And for Simon cavorting doesn't mean what cavorting means for the rest of us. He's probably hold up in some dark room working as his his habit. But hopefully, having a good time down there. Hopefully thinking about his New Year's resolution. We are we are. We are. Of course, our Christmas gifts from him shall come later some Mediterranean lunch, which I'm looking forward. We've got a great tweet about that though. Throwing it out there. Alex Syracuse things and he said how could Simon not think to get you guys Panini sticker. Yeah. That's a good point on Simon. I went through an obsession around the row before the road Cup with those fueled by Mr Borg, I no longer feel that obsession. So I'd actually rather have the lunch. A big show for you here on this Thursday. Just a reminder. It's the last one before we take off for the holidays. We'll let you know. What's coming up of I in this episode, Jason LeVine DC United managing partner. Co owner. They got the stadium done, David. We will talk to him in the second segment and then to start it off their entry draft you love drafts or MLS fan. You have to love drafts. And there's also some news floating around the league Kubo Torres, it appears he will stay. It's looking like Houston update you on that one Jermain Defoe. Joe verto some news out of Toronto. When it comes to those things, we'll get all that in just a minute. But let's let the people know what they can look forward to drown rats into. We have been working hard. I've been working David like the dog that he is. We've been podcasting. Yes. Very very very. Packed schedule for us. It's not yet over on Friday will do a couple more. But here's a schedule for you to simmer. Twenty-second will be the referee episode. That's Peter Walton the GM of pro as well as Crispin. So who is a pro referee in town. But he also refereed he was a center ref in the opening game of the hero Indian Super League. So there's some interesting stories from him there, December twenty fifth Christmas. We would not leave the people hanging on Christmas. What we never never ever. That's the American exports episode Alejandro Doria he will come on with us as well as David Patey. He is you don't know who he is probably listening there at home. He is the American owner of Yano in Costa Rica is a fascinating story. He's a fast ridiculous story to say. The least. Yeah, it's pretty good. And then we will check in with nNcholas AC. Who of course, you may know played in the couple of Premier League about a year to half or so ago. So he'll have some interesting stories from down there, December twenty ninth and expansion episode. We're very very hopeful to have Tom Paine. Of Elliot see that is not yet confirmed. We hope we can bring that to you. What we know we can bring to you is the president of MLS Atlanta that is Darren Eales. So we will certainly have him perhaps Tom Penn as well to give you the lowdown on what's going on with those twenty seven expansion clubs, and then January first drum roll, please. Kloof finally back. We've dropped the ball for so long the numbers game. We will talk to one of the authors. We will have the armchair us. Matt Doyle in the office are for endeavour bluer up to analyst and stat stat guy extraordinaire will join us. So we do want some mail on that we have some good stuff for your on ready already because we announced this four months ago people actually read the book, so but if you have opinions if you haven't pinions on stats and soccer Quinlivan to add extra time radio and Twitter extra time and MLS soccer dot com. Okay. That's it. That's the the housekeeping that we needed to get done. Let's jump right into it. The richer draft stage two was on Thursday. And it was a little bit busy. Dave. It was it was a mixed bag so to speak majority of passes from teams, but here's who got taken if you weren't paying attention. Macho had the first pick. They took former Chicago fire former Philadelphia backup Hikari Sumaria. Remember here in stage two team. Can renegotiate. That's the difference between stage one and stage to San Jose was second took marvel win. And then the second round they took Senan the dumb Canir reinforcing on the back line. And then also figure he'll play that four four to seven the wide guy in that formation Houston careers. Former team Chandler Hoffman from the LA galaxy and perhaps we're actually this year lows dose and Sturgis who has pretty much been everywhere in MLS. I think he's making a return to Houston. But this guy knows how to pack a bag so to speak whole lot of passes. So you got to see Dallas Tiba Harris taken by the hoops that would make sense as well. He's played for happy. Yes. We'll we'll take a look at that later. He's one of those big kind of target wide guys speed strength athletics goals. Goals. No matter where he goes New England taking tristen Boeing, and then passing of course, we've talked about them. They're whoa. On forwards right now, really just Charlie Davies top. So he's wanted to look at and then Orlando finishing it off with Josh Ford. Who is Josh Ford? You ask unless you're a Sounders fan, he's the number three goalkeeper for the Sounders the last couple years, he played at uconn, which is important because Paul mcdonagh, the VP of soccer operations, essentially, the GM down there in Orlando coached at uconn. So that's kind of a familiarity pick. Let's run down this this day. What stands out to you? Who's the guy that you really like this one guy when I saw the whole list before the draft was marvel win that I thought had to go, and he did I think it's a good pick. I think he's full back and centre back at this point. Which is why I was a little bit surprised Montreal didn't take versatility. But I think maybe maybe they think that right back there. Okay with both hustle Kamara as well. As as Miller, you know, that's just kind of quibble there. But Samara his best is one of the best centreback. We had a long time. So yeah. Marvel went was the big one for me out side of that. I put can push to the starting lineup though. What do you think you've got Bernardo's you've got Goodson? There were some injuries shoes there last year. But I write back you have an opening now with Hernandez gone. And I think with his versatility you have a guy who whoever's hurt you can throw him in. Whether it's he also knows the league. So he's experienced. He's a great athlete outside of that. I think Chandler Hoffman's a guy who may be Houston hopes. They get something for and Josh Ford seems like Orlando just wants cul Kiefer's, look, just that's your third keeper. And you you probably needed a guy who who didn't have aspirated necessarily at that top spot because you do have the two number ones would come in under stand the role do his job chamber Hoffman. What do you think own coil scouting USO big Los dose. I think Owen Coyle been talking about him over. And I think he tried to get him in. He just couldn't get him. Now his chance to get Shailer off. There you go. Now, he has them Nathan Sturgis. Of course, it good. Depth piece in that central midfield area. They needed somebody there behind Garrido and Rico Clark Sturgis once again veteran in this league. That's the kind of guys that you saw taken in this draft. Is there anything else really to talk about not as much happened as I thought what happened? I thought more players would be taken just in wires. You know, what I mean e- taking risks on guy like a guy like Henry Thomas who could be a stud, but has had injury problems. But you have the opportunity negotiate with I thought maybe someone like that would get taken. And I was a little bit surprised. Maybe that the expand that NYC didn't take a chance on anyone. But they clearly have their signings that laid out in the way they want to go about it. Yeah. You have to think that they're going to make a lot of news internationally. They certainly no way that that they're gonna go wasted international slots on this draft. And you didn't really see anybody do that either. Let speaking internationals let's move on a little bit Kubo Torres. We mention Hoffman in Houston. Kubo Torahs has been kind of a saga here for a while. Dave nobody really knew what was. Going to happen with this the word on the street was I wanted to keep Kubo and rumors were that no to do that they'd have to pay seven point five million to mothership Chievo Guadalajara, I guess they're not the mothership anymore though, are the now just a sham just the ship. So they could win ship. No. They're just trying to stay in the ship the championship that is. Right now, and this is all room, or this is all conjecture a lot of this reporting coming from go up, gold dot com, and and soccer by of course. But the team rumored to be in the running for Kubo is none other than the Houston dynamo. But also rumors on the street or that Kuba would not arrive in the preseason. He would not be there in March for the opener. He would play the first half of the year, the close Suda in Mexico with Chievo Guadalajara because they are desperately trying to avoid relegation is one of the top two clubs in the country. As far as support goes, really not from a results perspective over the last few years. They need goalscorers coup. Motza goal score. I'm sure he feels some sort of responsibility to his club. But what do we think of Kubo to Houston complicates their? I think from what we hear from own coil is he's a guy who likes why play and he likes wingers taking is on and crossing. And what do you want on the end of that is a lethal finisher a guy who loves to? In the box, and who loves to put put home any chance that you can get. He's young opportunistic, opportunistic, we know that he was able to score a lot of goals on a team that didn't create any chances. So you gotta think on team that creates chances. He's going to pour them in and on top of that. We've had the conversation a million times but bring a Mexican potential current international to Houston could be pretty special in terms of marketing. And you think about the guys that are gonna whipping in that service or not even it doesn't have to be whipped him balls the Kubo. Of course, you get foot on it in the box. Got Brad Davis on the left score Boniek Garcia on the right now you've also brought an Andrew driver who can fill in for Davis. If say they wanna play them in more of an attacking midfield role Giles Barnes perhaps behind him pushing play being physical a guy. That's as far as matchups goes, one of the most terrifying in molest, and all of a sudden you starting to think okay on this attack. It could have something here. But will Bruin is that? We haven't mentioned his name. He's been the number one guy there. He's been productive. What happens? To him, of course for the first half of the season. He's got an opportunity to really prove himself and to gain the spot. I think the question with Kubo is we actually haven't seen in play anywhere. But that center forward FOX in the box top you want him anywhere else. Right. You don't. I mean, he's only twenty one maybe he can do more for you than just be the guy in the box. Maybe he plays that position or close to that position that Giles Barnes was playing this year. And you push Barnes out. Why maybe there's a way that you can get more around the field out of him than just being the guy on the top certainly to reinforce centreback down there in Houston. That's their big weakness right now. But I think if your own call you have to be very happy if this deal goes down, remember, that's the caveat. Here. We still don't know as of this Thursday, if you had Kubo and will Bruin kind of a tune-up top so to speak because Wilbur although productive has been hot and cold oftentimes that that's the recipe for perhaps a Western Conference playoff team. So that's certainly something to watch. Let us know what you think about that. Is that the right landing spot for? Kuba? We had suggested some other spots in the past. But I think everybody can agree Houston make sense in a whole lot of ways. Let's see some other news. We're running down here on the news front. Hercules gomez. Speaking of league Amax, they did not get it done Tigray that is against club America in the in the title game for the well, not the mature. But the championship match they lost to club America Ventura Alvarado. He is the American that comes away with a winners medal too bad for her keys off to Pueblo though. So it is full circle for him. Speaking of international strikers, though, some news coming out today from his Tim best pachinko, he sang Jermain Defoe. And Joel berto are expected back at Toronto in two thousand fifteen do we believe him though, I eight sounds like it could be a bargaining chip away to China drive up a transfer fee from from other teams that are trying to come in for him. But the question is do you want him? I mean, he's a guy who if he's healthy he probably scores twenty goals this season. But it felt like his heart wasn't in the team. And so do you risk that and come back with him neck? Year when you're trying to get it. Right. And finally make the playoffs. I think I'm on that same tip. I said video the other day that if I had a house I would bet it on him not coming back. I don't think he wants to be there. And I think if you are Toronto you recoup your investment, and you go elsewhere, and you look for something that's more long term. Of course, they signed Robbie Finley from that stage one of the reentry draft. They resigned bright decay. Both those guys have flaws finley's only got one season more than six goals break decay. I love but can't stay on the field. Yeah. So you don't know if you can actually do it for any sort of prolonged periods. You'll berto though, I felt like he started to figure it out. You know what I mean? And he was a guy that from an attitude perspective. You didn't have any question marks about. So I like to see them hold onto him. I think they need that kind of, you know, elite goal scoring possibility at least there, and you let the other guys be depth around just needed a little bit of pace next to fo gave you that earlier in the year when you didn't have default. I think they lack that. All right. Well, that's kind of the rundown of news. We're gonna head of the DC United stadium situation. Realistically that was the biggest news this week. He has your finger up here with one more little piece. There's a rumor out there that mixed disc rude could be on his way to league max as well to go to Chiloe sin play in Tijuana. He would actually be the first American to play for Tijuana that didn't have Mexican citizenship because Paul Ariola was able to get it through his great grandparents. So he would actually be the first American signing that they've made from outside the area. And I think it's a legitimate shot across the bow of MLS and of American fans saying where where America's steam, no doubt. And you'll remember, of course, that Columbus a rumored winning spot for mixed disc rude. We'll see what happens with that one. That would be very very interesting. I think easier for a lot of us to watch those game. Interesting move for him. I am I wrong. But I on Instagram that he was in San Diego recently. And he was with Joe corona does Andre yodel. And of course, yodeling looks to be heading across the Tottenham this winter, let us know what you think at extra time radio extra time at MLS. Soccer dot com. When we come back. She's loving DC. United. We want to hear from you. You're encouraged to Email extra time MLS soccer dot com for tweet at extratime radio with me comments questions oriented. Uh-huh. Hey, this is on one hundred from the US national team. And you're listening to extra time radio. Extratime radio. Andrew, david. At last finally the saga that it never seemed would come good in a molest DC United's stadium situation. While David has come good. The city council voting unanimously to help fund this thing groundbreaking coming at some point here. We'll have decided Kohner Jason levian here on very shortly. I also referred him. Of course is the managing general partner. Most importantly for this. He was the point man for this project. And he got it done as I said, he'll join us in just a second. But first our reactions, I think when you looked at Twitter yesterday, which is pretty much the Taffer gauge for the world of American soccer. Not disbelief because people kind of knew that this was going to happen that kind of joy when you see a fan base along suffering fan base. And that sense finally get what they've been working for for. So so long and deserve. I mean, I think we were we were just talking about it. I think even in our K it's one of the top five or six atmospheres and MLS with the way that their fans I'm and putting them in the stadium. It becomes a dynamic club with the tradition. It's exciting. It's going to be an absolute blast to see a game there and they have a good team on the field as well. Right now. There's a lot of things to be happy about you mentioned the atmosphere. It's only gonna get better because we Mark McCloy. Here works in an office used to work at DC and kind of one of his anecdotes when talking about this. Was you talked to people on the phone? Yeah. We'd love to buy season tickets. We would love to be there. But call me when the new stadium gets bit. And at this point now you have to get season tickets to get priority seating twenty thousand seats right now. What what the team is saying it will be around. Those are going to go quick. This is another pasta. Ability for a Kansas City Kansas City with I think more of a winning tradition. More of a tradition. Long standing at least of. Of intense fan experiences organizations, the Barbara's gonna get down all the screaming eagles all these different fan groups that have just been patiently waiting have been pushing through at RFK, and we'll do that for the next couple of years still. But with a I on the future with a little bit of a twinkling there is because they know it's coming. Great times to be exciting. Great times of Jason Levy, and he got this thing done, and we're happy to have him on the show here on this Thursday. Jason how's it going? It's terrific and good morning to after the niche now, how do you feel are you did you get a proper amount of sleep is this has it really sunk in yet you've been working for? I think I heard you say twenty nine months, so it's a long process to finally feel like, hey, we got this thing done. Our ownership group, you made the invest in the club in the summer of two thousand twelve we join forces in partnership will chain exist owner, and the three of us myself are so here in world Shang, really we're focused on our number one. Priority was finding a permanent home for United. And you know, we focus on the district Columbia from the beginning knew we wanted to be in the district. We, you know, we did have some interest expressed some serious interest express and surrounding areas, but we locked in the district, and we wanted to make this a reality. So it's been tumultuous twenty nine months of some peaks and valleys, but we're very glad that we got over the finish line yesterday. And now that you're over that finish line yesterday. You celebrate it a little bit with the fans. What was the best reaction that you got from fan? I one fan. Tell me that he was at work yesterday morning and he read over on. The news on Twitter and asked his boss for a half day because he sold emotional and came down to join us our celebration downtown pin, social after the devote, and there are a lot of folks a lot of like that a lot of people who have been season ticket holders for nearly twenty years that feels so invested in this club and its success and really wanted to see today become a reality. And of course, the fans get the reward here, but I have to magin it's a reward for hard work for you. And the ownership group as well too. I'm just curious how did how did last night in for you? Do you sit down at the end of the night, and like an easy chair at home and import yourself a drink and say man that was a long process, but I'm here. How did you? How did you finish this off? How did you celebrate? It's like you sit down on your couch, and you fall asleep, and you shoot and you wake up and it's for him. You haven't slept so much for awhile. It's very gratifying for my partners. And I to to have this opportunity. I think the watershed moment for soccer in the United States, and certainly soccer in the district Columbia, and it's an opportunity for us to continue to grow this sport. Which is growing so rapidly in this country of Major League Soccer all that it's done to enhance soccer in the United States. It's just a an important moment. How much personal responsibilities you feel here because we've talked about you being the point man, you were the public one the guy behind the scenes, the one that was really focusing all his his time and effort on that. So I'm just curious how much I don't know if weight is the right word, but kind of in a way weight of the fans of the hopes of the expectations of the future of this club. You know, when we so we did our introductory press conference in the summer of two thousand twelve you know, I knew going into that. How important game stadium was. But at that event the amount of season ticket holders the amount of media interested out the stadium. I walked off the stage. And I said, wow, this is, you know, this is a heavy responsibility. And we've got to get this done. And I carried that with me for last two and a half years, you know, my partner who bested with me is based in Jakarta, Indonesia, and the end of the responsibility of getting stadium for DC United. You know, I promised him that we deliver on this. So I felt a responsibility to my partners. We certainly felt a responsibility to the soccer community into the fans and initiative Columbia. So it was an awesome responsibility. There was one we took very seriously. And I think we're gratified in humbled that you know, we saw through three yesterday. And what was it that we've seen it fails a few times before what did you look at those past experiences? Take from say, this is what I have to do different to get it done. This time. Well, I yes, I needed on the ground. We needed to build strong trusting relationships and partnerships with leadership in the city that that including the city council members the city administrator's office, the mayor's office to make sure they understood we had a we had a a a focus that was pure that we rented together with them that we wanted to see an outcome. That was gonna be a win for the city and a win for the club. But one that everyone was getting happy with a long and building those relationships and strategizing with those folks and being in the bunker, getting the bunker altogether, the public private partnership truly emerging that that was the key to getting this accomplished. I believe now what was the lowest point. Then what was the moment when you said, boy, this work is paying off. This is going to happen. Well, you know, there were some scary points. I wouldn't say low points. You know, I think having a male election changing leadership at the top. We just didn't know. Exactly what to expect. And we were so fortunate that, you know, mayor like has taken the role she has and the leadership she's taken because she's already made some very gutsy and bold decisions as part of the stadium process working with us in terms of getting legislation passed, but we just didn't know what to expect. And I the other moments are just the amount of time that passes, you know, you working on this months and months go by and you keep your head down as group you're focused on making progress, but some days, it doesn't feel tangible others what about what about the moment. You knew it was going to happen. Was there a watershed moment as you said? There was a was kind of a gradual process of momentum building and building and building. And maybe a few words here. There was a gradual process. I think somewhere around the fall when the consultant reports came out that city in the city council had ask for we even we had. A lot of information that accounts a lot information the mayor's office at a lot of information that we're all gonna try to move forward together. And then the last two months since that time, I've really been, you know, one step forward another step forward and felt the progress happening and that we were making progress towards solution towards an outcome. That was going to be successful. We seen in the press release twenty seventeen can you give for stadium opening can you give us a little bit of a time line of of what to expect show where the city has some some very focused responsibilities. We're going to closely with them on which are assembling the land, formerly they have agreements on most of the land and also doing some environmental work and some some work around getting us Ray. So that we're able to start building the stadium putting shovel in the ground. So those things are gonna happen starring first year, and we're going to be focused on our design implementation. And making sure that Archie is ready to go. In terms of the build, but also working closely with the city hand in hand as we have been for two and a half years on continuing to move the process along. So I think twenty fifteen is going to be a critical year in terms of getting the land settled and starting to build the process now, we've seen what San Jose. For instance. They're always unforeseen things that come up when you're building structures of this magnitude, and obviously as you mentioned, they're they're still not hurdles, but some things that get done before. You get started DC fans, I see on Twitter all sorts of people from all over the US. In fact, San market down March twenty seventeen I'm going to DC I'm going to do this thing. You know, part of me wonders should we be prepared for you know, like San Jose twenty eighteen opening maybe you're or do you feel really really solid about that year? The reason I feel good about our progress. Moving forward is because of the relationships we developed we the leadership and making this public private partnership. But we know they're gonna be along the way. And we're going to have to tackle those outcomes and do so affectively, but you know, we've been doing that together for a while. And so we feel good about it the responsibility we have to our fans, and this community continues it's grown in fact after yesterday, and we got so much support from our fans so much support from residents the district. Emailing calling writing into councilmember saying you wanna see this reality. They really made the difference here. Have you heard that? Have you heard that on the season ticket lines because I'm reading through the fake you on the website and to get that that. To be one of the ones in the new stadium. It's probably worth your time. Now to get in there and reserve your seats. Are you already seeing dividends being paid on that side? We are yesterday. We were talking with our our ticket sales team and our leadership team on the business side of these United. And there was a tremendous amount of interest and excitement. There is gonna be priority for those who sign up now, and we're gonna have to exciting seasons. And k saying goodbye to how ground they're all compliments that the team did there and chief so it's gonna be exciting process moving forward. But yes yesterday, there was a groundswell of support an interest. That was exciting to see in terms of new season ticket holders wanting to be a part of this wanting to be a part of the process, and we're gonna make our stadium development of very proactive and very engaged with our fans, we're gonna we're gonna use them to. To get input into how we designed the stadium. How we make it best in class and how we make it's really going to be the venue. And we wanted to have a voice, you know, he'd moved going forward of what you envision when we're looking at the stadium process. Do you know who is going to for instance, design it or you know, we've seen populace do some impasse number other firms? Have you narrowed that down and we've heard the twenty thousand number as I said, but what are some must have here for you? What are some things that that you look around the league or you look at what you have in your own venue now and say we need that we need to give our fans that will surely Fain gauge -ment check -nology is going to be important communication is going to be important in access to the building is going to be important. You know, what we've done over the last couple years as we've gone and seen and studied other socks civic stadiums that really have have done very, well, we're trying to learn from their mistakes. Also, but we've traveled around the country doing that looking at other venues, and we traveled around the world. Somebody stand looking venue. So we wanted to be first in class we've gotten a lot of work done already in terms of architectural design. But now align share the work gets done going forward. And it's going to be an exciting process. It's one that we've been chomping at the bit to start quite honestly, it's been mostly focused on the political process up to now. And now, we get you engage in in, you know, more focused way on the design of the state is there anything already that? You're most excited about in the design anything maybe unique. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to tell you that we're gonna keep a little bit of surprise there. We have we have some ideas, we certainly do for ways to make this Nikkei signing venue, and I can tell you we're gonna do that. But we're working through some of them. And you know, before we sorta unveil what those are, you know, it's gonna sort of work in progress. You gotta keep some things close to the vest as we do when we. Have guests on that? We know our fans will be interested in we put out some things on Twitter. And we say what would you want to us to ask Jason? And a lot of it was about this design stuff, and as you can expect from the borrow Bravo. And those sorts of people they want to know where they're going to sit. They wanna know if you can engineer bouncing stands, how do you? How do you keep some of that that personality that makes RFK so special, and it's really as you said made it kind of this hallowed ground is there any thought to replicating some of that? Shit earlier about the responsibility, we feel towards fans, and and there was a tradition and a history that's so rich and so prominent and so critical to DC United success and our supporters group success as a part of that that we're going to do I best known to replicate, but enhance it. So that is at the top of our agenda as we designed the stadium. You know, we want our fans, and and those are strongest supporters to just rejoice in the new venue and to enjoy it with us for many, many years to come and one of the things that I've heard personally from DC, vans, one of the things that they love and that special about it is that tailgate culture outside of our f k and how it might be affected if they move. Yeah. You're absolutely right. We've gotta look for nachos. The stadium. It's the area surrounding the stadium. And fortunately, we have some rights development writes this manslaughter development around the stadium. But we've got to think that. Through a very thoughtful way in terms of it making a place where fans congregate before and after ashes to engage in in. What is the soccer culture, which is not just those on the stadium, obviously it's in. And so we're going to think that through it. You know, we won't have access to the same amount of land. We had our case, certainly, but we think it's going to be a very very special place modern place easily accessible for fans for more than Egion. So, but we're going to think through exactly how do we do things. The best way, you know, in the area outside the stadium as you pointed out within the one before we kind of get to the mindset that this can usher in for a club. Do you have any thoughts of of building this? So that it can have the potential to expand. Because we've seen some new stadiums coming into the last we're thinking sporting Kansas City in particular, where we're going to build it right around that twenty thousand Mark, but we have an eye toward the future and saying that you know, what maybe this could get bigger. And maybe we'll. I need more seats. Does that does that pop into your mind at all? Yeah. I think it has to the way this sport is growing and the interest level in the United States and soccer. You know, we would be remiss if we did build a stadium that didn't have the opportunity and the planning to expand because we're just getting more and more momentum in terms of our fan base here in the district, and we're going to do that for years to come. And you know, we strongly believe in five and ten years we're gonna wanna bigger state because we're gonna we're gonna have so many more fans that want to participate in this. So there's absolutely, you know, at the top of our list is making sure we built something that has the flexibility to grow in. You mentioned that growth aspect, and one of the things that has been talked about so much with the stadium with RFK is kind of economic ability of the team to compete to put, you know, invest money in the onfield product. How do you see this new stadium potentially changing? I don't know if dentistry is the right word, but the way you guys compete in Major League Soccer. And and the way you invest in your team is this a if you're a DC United fan. Do you see the stadium and say we're gonna we're gonna see some big name DP? We're going to see some femi-. Martin's Michael Bradley's of the world. How do you guys see kind of the relationship of this new building and what you're doing and the competitive sphere? I. I think that we've got a soccer operations needed should team. You know, let by general manager. Dave casper coach Ben Olsen coach of the year. By the way, who who we are very very proud of who we have a lot of respect for who. I think terrific job this season. And I think it's questionable that they really impacted our club in the positive way this season that said I think that going into new stadium having more resources behind us to make business. More viable is is important, and it's good. Those resources are gonna lead to more any mission for us that we can expend moving forward, and we're going to be thoughtful of doing that certainly it's going allow us to utilize those resources to make the team better. One of the things. I saw we reference back. The Twitter really is kind of the heartbeat of of American soccer at this point. And it's it's life span. But I see some rumblings on there. Or yesterday from the likes of Brian Strauss and others about a potential not rebrand, but maybe a polishing of the DC United brand. It's such a classic. Well known successful brand both on and off the field. We've seen teams they move into a new stadium. And they kinda they kinda massage that identity, and and move it to the next phase of their lifespan. So to speak. Do you have any thoughts as an organization that some of that might be either necessary or maybe just help augment what you're doing? Elsewhere in question. I think that we've got we've got a very specific, and you need culture support in DC United. We've got her fans who care so much about a rich history and tradition, and we're not gonna do anything to jeopardize that, first and foremost that being said just as engaged in the stadium process, and we plan to engage our fans and supporters in that moving forward to make the s venue for them. We're gonna have I log around other ways to improve the. And other things that we can do to bolster what we're already any discussion starts and ends with the fact that we care so deeply about the rich history and traditional DC United has. So we're mindful of that. But certainly as forward, and we look towards the future, we're gonna look for ways to improve upon everything built and Jason for you personally talks about how much time you put into this. Now after you take a nap later in this afternoon and get yourself ready to go. What's your focus gonna be on really on around this team coming up over the next few months? Yeah. Listen, we've got big decisions to make on the roster. You know, this off season got the re entry draft. We've got you know, we've got look at how we build that Rosser the combines coming up, and I'm you know, I'm involved to the extent that I talked very regularly with an Iraq coach and general manager kept their thoughts and their strategy of that and trying to be helpful in trying to sounding board for them. And it's important. A very good season next year. It's important that we go even further finished first in Eastern Conference this year. It was the biggest turnaround, I believe and Major League Soccer beliefs history. But we want more than that. And we're, you know disappointed, and and it was a bitter pill when we lost in the Eastern Conference semifinals to the rebels, and we like to see a better outcome next to your certainly so that's what we're focused on in. And then it terms the business side. I think we're very focused on continuing to work with city continuing to foster those relationships and make them productive to move this process along to bolster our season ticket holder fan base and RFK to let our fans know that. Hey, this is the moment to to stay locked in and focused because we've got to deciding seasons at r k coming up there's gonna be a lot of nostalgia around the stilling. We wanna bring home another championship. Even before we get into a new. Building and do that. And you're gonna be with us from the start. And you're gonna be with us in terms of getting already in the building. History here in the spring, right? I mean, cut cap Champions League. Some people are forgetting you guys are the number one seed. Yeah. I'm excited about that. We are. And I'm going to be traveling down Costa Rica with the team in February? And you know, I'm hoping that our partners Eric will might be able to make that trip. The three of us are very engaged and excited about the upcoming season. And certainly Jeff in just just what we've accomplished there is is really inspiring excited about if you're a DC United fan. Certainly congratulations to you Jason on a job well done here. Getting this across the finish line. Thank you for coming on here on this Thursday, Jason being DC United managing general partner and co owner the day after the vote goes through we've been waiting and it is done once again Jason. Thank you for joining us today. Hey, guys. Thanks so much for having the and let's catch up against you. All right. Thank you. That's that's what you wanna hear. If you're a DC United fan. Right. This is this is going the direction that you kind of always dreamed that it could always had kind of these at least in the recent recent history kind of these valleys, and then some peaks, and then some valleys it's been up and down. You've always been going after the stadium. It always felt like it was just out of reach. You have it and have Jason Levin here saying all the right things. Right. I mean, nothing in there if you're DC United. I don't know. Maybe we're wrong. You can hit us up on Twitter view, Email. But that sounds like the trajectory is decidedly positive. He's also a guy who walks the walk. He said we need to get boots on the ground and get the stadium done and he personally went down to DC. And does it gets to know these people? So I think a lot of what he just said you can believe in terms of taking the club to that next level, which this stadium is going to be a part of doing. But it sounds like like you said there's going to be other pieces to that on the field. Maybe maybe some tweaks with the brand they don't think they'll go away from DC United or the band stopped tradition. But you could give things a facelift tradition a little bit. Let us know what you think at extratime radio via Twitter, extratime soccer dot com. Email when we come back the mail back. Want to hear from you urine? Courage to even extra time MLS soccer dot com for tweet at extratime radio with any comments questions orientations. This is marva win of the Colorado Rapids, and you're listening to extratime radio. Where nothing there. Oh may care. I'm just a. Now on X radio. Winced hitter weepy. David Goss, your final episode before we go to to the Bank. I guess what we've been banking for you. I think you're like that stuff. Let's jump in the mail back here. David and we'll find out immediately. Why we played the king? Well, one reason is because Elvis phenomenal. Yeah. That's good. I spend eight hour car ride listening to only only Elvis, oh who was who was driving that. You're not my pops. We from Memphis to Saint Louis so Email from Vinnie. And he says, hey, wasn't the only stadium vote yesterday. What do you guys think of Las Vegas potential? I love it. And I love how you said Vinnie Vinnie, very New York of. In case, you haven't paid attention. The Las Vegas city council on Wednesday voted four to three in favor of a public subsidy for a soccer stadium downtown soccer stadium in Vegas. That's part of this whole bid that's going on. I believe there is called symphony park. Yeah. That's the that's the area on that. One. Of course. One of a couple of different groups Minneapolis has to Sacramento, we've talked to them in the past, but Vegas is going for this thing. And I for one would love it come on who doesn't wanna go to Vegas. What players not going to be sold ongoing Vegas who doesn't want to be the first team in. I think that's the cool part for me is something unique for this league in this country. How can they can they figure out the weather? That's the one quest yet when I've been to Vegas in the summer. It's a dry heat, which is nice, but it's still extremely hot it. We get some Qatari engineers in here to figure that one. Got a lot outside the box ideas. Yeah. But speaking of stadiums. What's the one we've been talking about sock? United Marlin Argueta from crofton Maryland home of Kyle. I oh, you I have a number of swag items that I've owed you for a while that I need to get here. So I'm hopeful that I will get those in the mail that tomorrow or at a later date. Listen, I don't think Marlins to upset right now. I think Marlins in a pretty good mood pretty much. We sent out some messages the ecstasy of DC United fans, we're going to convey it through Marlin it looks like they're gonna get their stadium. They finally made the push he had a few questions in terms of do you think maybe they come in with a big signing. Brian Ruis from Fulham to connect with the local fan base there. And what do you think would be a good reward for DC United season ticket holders for San Jose? They got to be a part of the road around digging. A lot of them put in their own seats if I remember correctly. So he was asking what do you think would be good? One. His one suggested was maybe a tore before the stadiums are need to be open. I think you'll get your tour. I think they'll probably have some sort of walk through like that or at least like an event out at the stadium. But that's a good question. What something really special pet raccoon a chunk of concrete from our? I would take Chuck of concrete from our k you could probably just take it. I don't think they're not gonna get your seat from RFK. You have to be Landon Donovan together. That's true. They wouldn't just give those things. That's interesting. Maybe fans have some good ideas. Maybe they have you know, one of those things where they put your name on a brick or staff. You know, Jason loving was talking about developing that area around there. So maybe they have almost like a walk of a legacy walk where the the people to help pave the way for us to get here. It'd be pretty awesome moving on here. We have in tweet from both Benton and Ben Phillips, Ben Phillips, and Arabic linguists and Jack of all trade, and they both tweeted us about one thing, which I'm thinking of making a Twitter handle call you know, your soccer nerd win. Because I thought the same thing, and you know, your sock nerd when the US in Cuba normalized, diplomatic relations, and your first thought is Ozzy Alonzo playing holding mid for United States national team, they want to know, do you think that this will pave the way, and is this a potential still I think there's a possibility the question is do diplomatic relations 'cause the Canadian Canadian what am I talking about Cuban federation to to have their own thaw spoke so to speak because the word has been that Ozzy Alonzo's asked for that. And we saw. Ker dot com are limbless compadres. They have asked the human federation for comment. They've wanted to talk about, hey, why is this happening? Why why are you releasing him? Of course, a special considerations Ozzy to move over after playing internationals with them. They did not get a response on that. So if it hasn't happened yet, I'm not sure that that diplomatic thaw will get it done. But I think Ozzy would probably like that. And I think probably a lot of US men's national team fans out. There would like I think the one thing that we might not know is maybe the central government was telling the FA don't release him because we don't want our players playing for the US, and we don't want guys getting asylum and thinking, they can do the PR implication. There are not great. So maybe the FA really doesn't care. And now that maybe it is still tough to to just give away. What would be one of your best players? Yeah. Yeah. And also, maybe he could play for them. Now that the helps we'll say Email coming here from Jim Nelson in south Sioux City, Nebraska. I believe he's a Creighton and sporting KC fan, and he had a question based on Creighton playing in the big east and college soccer now, but just more in general of do you believe that there's an east and a west style of soccer? There's a different, and I know that this is a huge basketball conversation always been an east west style, which has kind of like a complete like black hole of style right up in the upper midwest and the big ten pretty much misery. And I think that style starting to be lost a little bit with TV and internet where everyone watches each other and plays with each other. What do you think about in terms of soccer? Boy, that's that's a tough question. I'm trying to I'm trying to think because you have an east coaster in Bruce Arena coaching the galaxy. Yeah. So I think oftentimes style is often dictated at least in the mainstream from the highest level that you're watching. So it's hard to say like, I couldn't sit here and be like, oh, you know, the ten teams in southern California really play an expansive aesthetically beautiful. Style football. I just don't know. Yeah. I don't think. So I think it's interesting that both sides kind of have like a ground zero of talent, you know? Of course, it's the LA southern California area for for the west empire. But but here on the east coast. I think it's just west of here in that like jersey, Philly eastern, Pennsylvania or not eastern eastern, Pennsylvania kind of triangle area. And that seems to be where a lot of that elite talent comes out of Florida starting to make a push as well. But that's interesting. I wonder if people that are more embedded in say, like the soccer culture, or like college high school, whatever could answer better. I think one of the things he seeing the college soccer is what you end up with at the end of the year, which is one playing in cold areas at one playing in. So you have different styles. What I think is unique and exciting about molasses. You have that academy system, and you have the potential to keep guys at home, and you have a potential to build a culture where you can say. Hey, look, this is how Philly soccer place and we play for the Phillies. Union rather than other sports where you have to get drafted. So it's tough. And then adapt one to get in. They are probably drafting you for your attributes and your fit. Exactly. So I think that's that's an exciting. Interesting question, if anyone has any a- respond to here's your interesting note that just came through on the wire Jay Vitovich, the head coach of Wake Forest that's east coast. Of course, heading all the way west Portland he will be the head coach at t to yet. So that's an interesting move. That has some implications for both college soccer MLS on the pay attention to. So here we have a question from Brendon from Irvine. And he said he was on Twitter the other day reading, rob Hainan's Cuna. And when asked about if Kansas City would try and site, Stephen Girard. He heard that the New York red bulls had a discovery claim on him. So he's wondering do MLS teams just put out claims on the Messier the Renaldo those Lonzo just in case they end up trying to sign or is there a limited amount where you don't wanna waste and another the hotel bar like super draft like a discovery signing a lot. I think the way it works is that you have a limited number of these. I believe it's ten I could be wrong on that. But you have to be intelligent about how the us though. So if you don't have a shot at landing guy, AK Lio Messi, don't put it discovered. Claim it on him for the red bulls put winning on Jared that tells me that they think that they have a chance you have. Of course, we talked about this on the last show has that relationship. So they probably think there's a possibility here that you know, we could get this guy. And that's how I have to do it. A lot of them. Of course, are people in South America, guys that you don't know probably but ones that the teams have been scouting for a while. And, but if you had the chance to get messy, and you didn't have the discovery Claremont, and you'd be kicking you would certainly real quick before we get out of here. Simon's New Year's resolutions. We've got a couple Jamie from Grand Rapids says that he has to stop using to me at the beginning of all of his sentences. David aren't on Twitter had the best one. And he said resolutions futile. The board is in a movable object of opinions, and I think. Dave is going to be a winner. I think they are futile especially for Simon Borg for us. Our news resolution. Well, it'll be come back into be better than ever. We were not gonna be around. Of course. We'll get your evergreen episodes coming up very very shortly. But that's it. That's it on this Thursday. His thank you to Jason. United co owner general managing partner they've got their stadium. Congratulations. Thanks to Dave. It's been another good year. Thanks to our listeners. You are what makes this show special. You're what makes us excited to sit down in the studio every Monday and Thursday and thanks to siriusxm see we love that partnership. We hope anybody in the car listening right now is driving safe and enjoying themselves for David Goss. I'm Andrew we will see in the new year.

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Vincent Larry (Mi'kmaq) Part 1

The Storyteller

14:30 min | 4 months ago

Vincent Larry (Mi'kmaq) Part 1

"But I am determined not to go back to life of. Of Alcohol which almost destroyed me. On this bench for at least a couple of years. I thought it was missing owed on substance. But I wasn't enjoying my life. Solely destroy my life by my good reputation was. Was, losing the. STEIG. Welcome. My friends to the storyteller who you'll find first nations people from across native. North America who are following Jesus Christ without reservation. Today, we'll hear from Vincent, Larry of the mid Mo nation in ill ground New Brunswick Vincent was convinced that if he tried to live the best, he could God would decide where he would go. But then he met some people who told him something different audio. Lewis Vincent Lur. Leo. Over. One hundred. Make them all the name. My name is Vincent Larry. Of from the community of ill grow. And I'm from the the big mouth tribe. Ill. Ground is a small community located on the banks of to your famous fantasy river. In new? Brunswick. Canada. population here. Pokesman. Seven eight hundred. No. It's not a big community. Everybody pretty well. Knows everybody. In. This community. Which is a similar story I think with most of our aboriginal communities across Canada. And the United States. Letter full breed in you know I'm a half breed. Half. Irish, and move. I was born to Syria. Motor gave birth me at the hospital in Chatham, which is located about ten minutes from here. Lift your mostly liberal. I fondly remembered A. My youth like were everybody seemed to be equal. Everybody shared. Nobody was really rich except maybe for a few families that worked in a big mill. But mostly. We were all just the poor people really we You know lifting the same old houses. The dirt roads on a reserve. In the fall time you went you deer hunting. And Moose hunting and. And all the other stuff trap in small game and We'd okay. It was mostly good. Throws a lot of alcoholism moderniser. But you know we just s chillar. We just try to stay away from it we. Whenever spent much much time at home because. Usually, the GROWNUPS would be drinking. I remember I would just get up early in the morning and. and. The. Way Around Reserve and. If it was summertime I. Went through a blueberry patches and. Eight blueberries and such for breakfast and. And went to the Kubo Kubo, which is a spring. got. Some water, drunken what swimming? And the lunchtime be similar. But I just Almost, fend off the land. Really. And in suppertime. You know most of the time motor would have some for us to eat supper time and. So my childhood was. Like like mostly the same as. Any other child I guess growing up on Indian Reserve. Phone. Heard at least. Later on. As a young man. I, wanted to the states works in the states for for a little while we'll tree for years or so. Worked in renovating houses learned the about. Electrical stuff in also. What else about nineteen or twenty eight came back to the community to rose. There were Jobs opened up in a lot of jobs for us for. Of Constable. So I applaud I didn't really think I'd good or anything and just. Just blow forward and Lo and behold. I got the job and. I served as a policeman on a reserve for about twenty one years. Seen a lot of pain. Lotta poverty. And mostly from the result of You know people drinking and taking drugs and And I told people today like look at yourselves like. You know all your into today like. Drinking him. You, know getting into drugs and such. That's what's getting everybody in trouble at our in our community. And You need to change your lives. But that is easier said than done. I have discovered over the years. My words have no power at all. And I've discovered. By using God's word. And I believe the Bible lease guts were. That there is power and that. If you give them a scriptural quote. When they're ready. Such as for God so loved the world. That He gave us only begotten Son Jesus. But who server beliefs in him. Will Not. Perish? But however lost and life. A molly surprise discovered a lot of people have never. Heard this. Short simple verse. I don't want to be little at or anything as very powerful verse. It's what led led me to God years ago. And the Ministry of the Caroline Kathy Hill. And the remember that I was pleased I. Live my life. On my days off I. Just. Barely did my early. And it was Carol and. Made me see the whale was living was wrong. I was always convinced. If trump to live the best I could. that. God will decide. WHAT IDEAL BEFORE I will pass through the gates of war if you will if go to. But it was Carlin catchy the. Equations to eight nine hundred. It is by grace. That, we are saved through faith in Jesus and that. Out of ourselves. But it is a gift of God. Works, least anyone should boast. Those words really hit me hard. I didn't. Never really realist four. We are the grace. And that we are saved. True in by the sacrifice. Jesus Christ. So. When I discovered to me of A. Day For me. Has A. Live in criminal been easy. Oh you know it has its struggles. Know. It is a daily life of discipline but I I am determined not to go back to life of. Of Alcohol which almost destroyed me. On his bench for at least a couple of years. I thought it was missing out on something. But I wasn't enjoying my life I was solely destroy my life my been reputation was. Losing the. And so Discovering, Jesus. Having a personal relationship with God. which under. Nobel before. That is what what helped me. Legacy. It hasn't been easy. Life is a struggle. And I've slipped certainly I've slipped nice most of us have. An even. While diverse instead won me over that Caroline and Cassie saw me me was All have sin. Fall, Short the glory. Nobody nobody can work. And does not a revelation for me to. Today I just I. Do the Best I can. I never leave. Leave my house. Would all get numb my knees and asking God to give me strength for today. And, I never go to bed at night. With get nominees once again. And asking for protection from God protection for failing. My Community The God would bless us. That God would open the eyes. Open the year's. Oblast. So, they could see the truth of the word. That they may realize that. That there's only one way of salvation. And a scripture says That there only one name given honor him go. Unnoticed name of Jesus, which we must be saved. The word of God says. Went Ada. And he gave this commandment to the. Apostles and disciples. That you show go into all the world. And Preach the Gospel. To, the juice, I. This marines. And To all other races of of the earth. A of course, you know the apostles disciples to never knew anything about. The different nations that existed in this world. Ally Gone to psalms. Ninety seven, it says. The Lord Reigns. Little People's of dear rejoice I. Believe it goes away. All true scripture indicates that. The Gospel is going to go all around the world. Any No. Like a lot of us we're instituted into different. Types of, religions. And I was myself was raised as a Roman conflict go. In Now that I know better. I don't really agree with everything you know my religion taught me. But I know this much that the sincere. and. I believe. that. Like s sincerest the wrong a certain things. But it's not just. Been Christian since Nineteen eighty-one. It I've discovered that sometimes we can go off on a tangent if you will like certain. Certain scripture. and embrace it. And say to ourselves. This is the absolute truth and I I don't really care what all the other scripture shows. But it's important for us as Christians to look at all of God's word. And to accept all of. And this is really Faith. Comes by hearing the word of God. But. Except in Jesus Christ Lord and Savior of our lives. But. Faith also is believing in all of guts word and not just some certain portions of. It's important for us Christians. Especially if we've been indoctrinated in certain religious like Iowa's. Work as hard as I can. Work really hard and try to be best nece good as. But maybe. Maybe I'll make it to have. God's word since. We are saved by grace faith in Jesus and the out of ourselves. Many people believe that if they're good works outweigh their bad God will accept them. This is not true. In fact, no amount of good can undo the wrong we've done or make us acceptable in his sight God head to make away. He sent us a gift that we must accept by faith that gift his son Jesus Christ who came to pay the penalty for our sins his death satisfied. God's Justice His resurrection proved. Those who receive Jesus as there savior are no longer condemned. It's true. Tells us in his word for by grace? Are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast. What are you trusting in what you can do or what God has already done? My friend put your trust in Jesus. Want to know more. Write to us at the storyteller. Po Box. One Thousand and one BEMIDJI MINNESOTA five, six, six, one, nine. That's Po. Box One, thousand and one, the MSCI MINNESOTA five, six, six, one, nine. Our phone number is eight, seven, seven, seven, six, six, four, six, four, eight. Our web address is without reservation dot com, and you can also find us on facebook at without reservation. Thanks for listening and remember the greatest story took place at the Cross for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ our Lord. My friends, there's more to Vincent Stories. So sure to join us again next time as we listen to the storyteller.

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Dunc'd On Prime preview: Bucks Here; UTA 2020-21 Outlook with David Locke

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Dunc'd On Prime preview: Bucks Here; UTA 2020-21 Outlook with David Locke

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If you sign up for a year membership you can get thirty five percent off the monthly price for dunked on prime total access. Enjoy the show. I why you are paying for dunked on prime because we've got an immediate reaction to possibly the biggest news story trans actually in the nba. Since the summer a twenty nineteen and maybe the biggest news story already for the summer of two thousand twenty one that jonathan and kubo has signed the supermax. It will be for five years two hundred and twenty eight million dollars that will be a player option in the final season when he would be making fifty two million dollars in the twenty five twenty six season and so he now cannot be traded for one year after signing this. So there's some taco. Maybe he agreed that with them that they would trade him. If it wasn't working out so it would have to be like right before the start of next season. Basically it's not gonna technically a europe. It'll be whatever the league equivalent. Data's probably a for next year. So right before the start of next season what do you think you brought up the biggest news since since twenty nineteen i go back to a single date and that is july fourth two thousand sixteen and this is to me the biggest new sense then an arguably bigger than that. I don't think it is because of what kevin durant meant for the title picture of the warriors in the thunder but this is a comparable event and the reason why is because janas kubo is the two time reigning regular season. Mvp and he would have been entering. Would've entered free agency without this agreement in the prime and there were teams that had legitimate title aspirations even arguably without him that were saving their space and now are not saving their space free honestly likelihood so it is an earthquake and it usually that has been a player changing teams in this case. That is a player staying where he is. Yeah i might say lebron going to the lakers. Ad the lakers going. The clippers are arguably as big as this. If not bigger because the lakers of already wanted. Yeah i guess you could argue with lebron. Lebron certainly argue because they want to championship but the one of the differences was that there was it kind of felt like that was more likely in some ways he was older too. You know there wasn't as much of a window rysley but lebron is also still better than honest. even now with the honest is not necessarily kawai in twenty nineteen. Lebron and i mean you could make east better than the honest right now too but anyway. That's that's a medic. Let's talk more about what this means now For the boxer going forward here. Yeah so i mean. We don't know the we know that preliminary terms of this extension adding five years and my you know using the official estimates out there five years two hundred twenty eight point two million and that will change based on what the twenty twenty one slash twenty two cap ends up becoming and with. Chris middleton already on the books and brook lopez and then drew. Holiday has a player option. Which now. I expect that he will get a lucrative deal. Milwaukee likely coming in the summer of twenty one a. Fully expect that the bucks will pay the tax in twenty one. Twenty two assuming ownership is on board and they damn well better be on board with that and then depending on how all this works out probably for another couple of years in the future. I think that's the way we talk about that though. Like to really get into the numbers because okay the they'd been low to pay the tax. They paid this year. They're gonna pay like me. Like three million max into the tax because of the unlikely incentives for drew holiday inn being and they could very easily duck if they move. Somebody like teaching wilson or something like. It wouldn't stunned me to see the bucks do that. So without drew holiday on the books. The milwaukee bucks are already about ten million dollars over the cap next year middleton making thirty five point five jaanus making thirty nine obviously if they lose jrue holiday. That's a complete disaster. Can't replace them. They have to pay him. Basically clearly that move of giving up. Four unprotected picks in the future for holiday was not done without the understanding that they could bring it back thirty one years old though for drew holiday. There's no way. I will be very conservative here and say that he gets a contract that's starts at about what he would have gotten before his player option. Which would have been twenty seven million so throw that in there. You got ten players under contract now. Maybe you can eliminate bobby portis there a player option if he opts out. I don't know if he's going to so nine players under contract you're already over the apron so any kind of side and trade possibilities are are eliminated but moreover i mean even just to fill out a team to get to fourteen fifteen players now. This team is basically fifteen million dollars into the tax like. Are they really going to pay that. Are they really going to pay that. It's an excellent question and when you consider that the bucks are pretty asset tour with all the all the first rounders in pick swaps that they've already conveyed and they don't really have this collection of young guys. The only young guys they have that they like they wanna to keep steven chen. So that is a real challenge for milwaukee is like how. How far are they willing to go and for. How many years because diva kenzo. If he ends up being the the shooting guard at the president he's the shooting guard in the future. Then he's going to get his raisin twenty two and then we'll see what happens with brooke and like it is a. It is a very real challenge for this bucks team financially. And i have long said that you you do that. You bite that bullet for a team. That is a Contender and the bucks just got jaanus to resign for the for the supermax. So i think that they're in that conversation. But you bring up a great point and then the other real challenge for milwaukee when you think about this moving forward is they. Especially on the periphery of the core. Those players are even the core outside jaanus aging and it will be hard to replace them and that gets into what i thought was the really interesting question here. Which is how what kind of where we putting the milwaukee bucks championships over under four from now until this super max extension end. So let's say the twenty four twenty five zero. Let's say you're honest opt out. So that's basically through his age. I believe that's the age twenty nine season. What do you. What would you put the bucks championship over under ap. Oh zero point five. And i mean they're not going to be the favourite to me this year and i think odds are only going to get worse as time goes on holiday will be. Older middleton will be older brook lopez. we'll be Older and as i mentioned last year or last year walking delirious here maybe last minute would be more when i last spoke. That's fifty million over the tax. That tip you just fill it out with minimums so to say nothing of using the mini mid level and then when you go from fifteen to twenty. That's when you're getting up into your that really high bracket of three point two five per dollar Three hundred twenty five cents per dollar that you spend and they have no draft picks basically left that they can trade at this point. I guess they could. Could they move eight twenty twenty eight. Pick at s-. Let's see here now. They can't even move twenty twenty-eight pick this offseason because they're twenty twenty seven. I already traded so they are just out of everything right now. They really have no way to get better other than maybe just adding people through exceptions and. I don't know if they have the financial wherewithal to do that. May be a trade of dj august in and pat coddington and dante. David chen zone will get you another really good player and then you you know maybe you can get something on the buyout market et cetera et. But that's they do not have a lot of ways to improve so unless you see this as a championship core any championship core for the next couple of years yet. You can't feel great about this now. Far be it for me to say that. Johnson and kupa made the wrong decision like he did not make the decision for him. I don't think he's talked eloquently about how he wants to be someone who stays with the team for his entire career like dirk or like kobe bryant or like tim duncan and if that's what's to him then you know. He clearly made the right decision if he wants to get his money now. I completely understand that if he wants to maximize his chances of winning this year. With the milwaukee bucks and to eliminate distractions. I completely understand that All that he is a different personality than a lot of these guys. And i find it refreshing in some ways but i also as someone who is a fan of the league and wants players to be in the best place with a good organization that is going to maximize them. I am happy for bucks fans right now. But i am somewhat sad for the league as a whole because i just don't i think that he is consigning himself to purgatory here in the end. And maybe they win it this year and they proved me wrong but i just. I'm very concerned about the long term outlook for this group like you. I'm conflicted so the way that i would phrase it is and i wrote this publicly like this is not that i would not have advised honest to sign the supermax extension for not only the reasons you stated but also because it seeds so much control to the milwaukee bucks because now he is in a circumstance where he his future is tethered to this collection of players. Which as we talked about is very difficult to change. And so i think that a player max players using their agency to like using the power that they wield to put themselves in situation now if he thought that he that and as you said like he can prioritize whatever the hell he wants. I'm just saying what my advice would have been. And what he can do what he wants. And if and if this is what he wanted. I'm i'm happy for him unequivocally but the the ideal and this is come out a fair amount of like. Oh it's good for the league. And i think that the argument there is way more complicated and it gets into this fascinating nuance that i don't think is discussed enough. Which is that yes it is. It is good for small markets to maintain it is encouraging for fans of those teams to say. Hey if we do things mostly right and we have a championship contending team around player that there is a chance that they're going to stick around and it is that is encouraging to me their various examples that you could use but also remember that paul georgia's pacers were not that level of team. Anthony davis pelicans were not that level of team. You could make an argument that kawhi leonard quite raptors were but that was an entirely different situation because he had just gotten their year before and everything else And obviously like lebron. James cavs at different moments were and were not But they were in the most recent vintage when he left sort. But so i i think that was the challenge in so so you could say from that perspective shirt however we are going to see. Even if the bucks are more willing to spend the united state we're going to see the ripple effects of that and if if people remember i in votes january fourth two thousand sixteen you and i had a podcast then and i had talked about the idea that i that. If durant had resigned with thunder there was a distinct possibility that we were going to be having a conversation a few years from one of the best player to never win a championship. And i'm a little bit more optimistic about the bucks. Chances the new but not dramatically. So just because i think they have a fractional chance a significant fraction chancer in the next few years. And so if you add those together and everything else but still. And if if he's with that then there's nothing else. I can say or honest himself could get better to really be the best playoffs earlier absolutely just turned twenty six like and generally we think of players primis being somewhere in the late twenties. And so if he can be better than he has been so far done then that could be the player who elevates them. And you know the bucks were. They were in contention. this faster. There was by far the league's best regular season team. And so yeah. I mean i think that there but you run into this situation where people say. Oh it's good for the nba. It's like well it's good for the nba. If the league's best players are also on the league's best teams like that or like that. That is what is good for. The is not good for the league for players to be at cal alike to be not conversation and what. I'm enthused as the bucks the next couple of years. I think that they will be very good team. I think that they will be in contention if not like the top team. They'll be in the mix. We concerns me and this is why throughout that whole piece advocate for not not to do. This is three years from now. Four years from now and at that point you know the team will have done whatever it is and hopefully. They've won a championship public for the bucks they've done that but lopez and drew and chris middleton welby aging out of their current level of play. Ain't jonah still going to be there and they won't have replenish the stores because the bucks just don't have the capacity to do that and also they haven't regularly made good moves on the margins that could change and i hope that it does and that is that is why signing a long term contract like this challenge. It's also why. I want to see the league. Changed the rules on supermax that you can only sign this if it's if it's a five year if it's adding five years the deal maybe you're could be an option as it was here and so at that juncture you know for so let's say two thousand twenty three well then then what is what is going on here and that is that is a challenge. The signed up for that and that is maybe he's not thinking about that. Maybe maybe not prioritizing it maybe he is we don't know and so he can do whatever whatever he wants. A new quarterly did and that's great. But it is. I m like kind of sitting there. Lingering going we'll we'll we're we're going to be then and i'm going to appreciate the ride until that point for damn sure but it's a concern so this obviously has massive ripple effects throughout the league as well which is part of why we're we're talking about it being so important so paul george is now off the table. Lebron james is now off the table in what was supposed to be this halcion summer of two thousand twenty one kawai leonard. Maybe he's on the table. But i by guests would be unless something just crazy happens with. He wanted to be with the clippers so badly they can also sign him up to a ten or a a thirty five percent. Max deal for five years this offseason so that that they'll have a massive advantage financially as well anyone else can time to thirty five percent maxwell's of ten years of experience but that fifth year. He's at an age thirty. Where that fifth year will probably matter to him. Sues left out you have if he's out realistically going to change teams all of a sudden maybe one of the biggest winners of this is someone who is honest own team because clearly withdrew holiday. They have to resign him. All these teams. You've got dallas toronto and miami as three big ones For example jrue holiday might be the best star on the market at age thirty-one who might realistically changed teams see. How vitriol depot does. We'll see what happens with rico. Bears extension the jazz any team. That has a free agent that they didn't necessarily want to pay for next year. The jazz are a loser in this as well. 'cause i you know go. Air might be the best at eight twenty nine. He might be the best guy available on the market like his market. Just went way up. You would think if look at some of these teams go. Bear would be a great fit in toronto out know about dallas necessarily but there are definitely more teams out there who are going to be used for but holiday in particular now a the bucks really have to keep him a because they have no way of getting better. If you're honest we're gonna leave then. Holiday might not have had market in milwaukee and certainly you would think miami dallas holiday would be awesome fit toronto. All those teams will be in undue holiday. He stays healthy. He's going to just get absolutely massively paid. You would think At another winner here and that is the houston rockets. Yes yes because it now becomes harder for these these teams that have lafayette expirations to add star talent through free agency. Now that that is largely the candice kicked down the road unless they can get quite leonard or they see one of these other players may be depot has a huge year or somebody like that absent that james harden now becomes a way for a team to raise to raise their profile. Raise it now. You and i had an extended conversation recently about how my thought is that harden is far more valuable as a floor razor than as a ceiling racer because the best teams don't need a player like him but the worst teams most definitely do. And so does miami rethink this process. And were i mean maybe toronto or somebody else do they. Do they re evaluate this situation now. I think that dallas probably doesn't. I think that harden just that would be kind of a square payer but we'll dell is problem is they don't have any assets also trade they are probably the biggest losers because i think Toronto and certainly miami miami as up young assets in particular were they can pivot to maybe gang out of the trade market. I don't see what kind of a trade doubts can make throw in a couple of future i At unless like josh green hits or whatever. I mean they're not gonna trade the idea that you're going to pair this guy with porzingas luca. You can't trade either of those guys. So yeah where dallas gets the third star now. That is very difficult to see another guy just briefly. Who could end up being a big winner here. Spencer dinwiddie i think that he if he calories all these guys like dinwoodie in particular like i could see i see the sales pitch there are being pretty easy and so yeah and then and then so we can then shift to the losers and i think the other point and this is something you and i talked about a fair amount and offseason grades is the opportunity costs that these potential twenty twenty one suitors took by basically punting on the twenty twenty offseason because they wanted to maintain space and now they're still are other ways that team can use that to improve whether that's an imbalanced trade or signing a free agent or something else. There are ways but for example the toronto raptors. Now if you had told them on november first that was going to was going to sign a supermax was going to resign supermax. I think they make a different offer to surge I think that they approach. Og ended obe- extensions which now that might happen. Who knows maybe an extension happens in the next couple days. Want to get on that quick. I think he might blow up but this year he he absolutely might end. So those and now the he'd probably regret the bam bioch- central is because they're just didn't cost them as much and so all of those teams were precautions. Dallas they use their mid level. You know to resign trey burke and willie cauley stein. They didn't go after a real difference maker. And that is a real a real loss for those teams now and the incentive was worth the faint chance of getting yanni was especially like you can think about dallas in dallas and miami. Here like that that faint chances is absolutely worth. But now we're on the side of that and the timing of this for me is absolutely fascinating. Because milwaukee i you. And i both were very negative about their off-season lowered their it. Lowered their title likelihood and guess this takes out some of the downside risk a lot of the downside risk of the picks that they traded to new orleans. This does make me recalibrate that but jaanus waiting this long especially when it comes in the context of the bucks off season as as it happened is fascinating because like was this a tactical move to have these tabbies potential threats though. He should have waited until next summer. Because you could even have said if you wanted to. You could even said hey as of right now. I plan to resign next summer. You could even say something like that. But yeah i mean particularly when this the bucks are going to have to pay a massive luxury tax bill to bring back drew all day. That's a reason. Another reason i would have wanted to wait if i were him. as well But yeah i again that's a. I'm not criticizing his decision for himself. I guess we will see if the bucks do end up. Chipping out whether he did kinda get bamboozled on this thing. Or not but But you information at his disposal. I think you know yana. Signing this after his fast is fascinating because signing it before would have given the bucks may licensed to handle this offseason differently now handling differently as it turned out i think would better but it could have just given them more leverage in the holiday talks even to have him under already to where they didn't have to give up quite as entirely possible. Although i guess you know what though i man there's so many aspects of this now right like him not signing made that package look so much better to the pels it but they also did give up a lot anyway. Yeah it'd be still an insane amount and we are one of. The pixes is two years after this ends and one of them is twenty twenty six even twenty twenty five you know. That's that's the last year that he's under guaranteed contract here And he could add up. Leaving knows knows at that point. We'll we'll see what happens but Because i of course. I have my doubts about whether they can get better. Iran diaz With this group. But then you throw it also aspect that you mentioned miami had. They had twenty five million in space if they wanted to. They could have stretched removed. Kelly lick they could have gotten a mechtild me. What would miami look. Like if they had gotten gordon hayward this offseason think it's something you could say. Maybe that's a bad contract. Or if i had been willing to use the mid level even over over three or four or simply even retain jae crowder who is or derek jeter. Who were so good for them. I think they clearly replace those guys with inferior options. Hopefully it won't matter that much and maybe they would have wanted to keep their space open for the holiday or ola depot who supposedly wants to be there or any of those potential options as well. But yeah i'm a who knows how much like four dimensional justice played here. It could just be for to us. I would probably guessed that. Between the oddest and the bucks for office they clearly gained both in terms of making their draft picks looked better in the holiday trade and also forestalling their competition for this year in the east by having wait. I don't know if that was witness or not. But they definitely did gain the you make a great point there and yet the ripple effects of this will be felt. We'll be felt for wild because now the two thousand twenty one class is a lot worse than as you you brought up with lebron mpg. And and anthony davis because remember he signed a one oneplus one as well that that changes it now. The the the upside that classes is significantly diminished and you can potentially create more leverage for the restricted free agents in that class. I wrote about that. They thought it. But i don't think that necessarily does. Because i don't think that the the top teams that were discussing here are suitors and so i'm fascinated. We brought a pardon. But what is the trademark. It look like now for various players and which ones are even considered to be moving over the next wizar- another winner here to just to where bradley beal is. The kind of white whale while if they do end up needing to move him you imagine there will be even more suitors than there would have been. Yeah but it is worth noting. An eye with the problem for the rockets in the wizards. Is that those teams that are you looking to add the final piece. Unlike with the lakers and clippers a few years ago they're not asset bridge. And so you're you're kind of looking. You brought up white whales now. They're looking for the whale like that comes into the casino. That has all the money. That's the problem is right now. It's these teams that don't really have those resources. And so that is a you know. Maybe that changes maybe some young players on those teams really impress or some other asset. They have or maybe a new team rises. Like i dunno new orleans or something like that and they they have something else that interesting but it is going to be challenging to kind of figure out these waters and see how everything shakes out. And the i think they're looking like there's going to be this period of stability like that that the best players have kind of dave all picked their spot and they're going to be there for a little while and some of them will do exceedingly well in their current location. Some of them will not into that might lead to some change. But i mean. Looks like lebron ad and yada and paul george. And i'm guessing hawaii and probably steph curry and a lot of these guys are going to be in the same place so hardin and a few others. That's that's really where this is going to go. And the rising. I guess some who rises into that category but a lot of them are pretty stable too. Because if you're young enough then you're under team control like luca. Yeah all of a sudden. This free agent cost doesn't even look that much better. Now there's more depth certainly sure and particularly a point guard but it's a free yukos's doesn't look that much better than the previous one that we had close here. Just want to take you through the overall setup on dunked on prime total access. But the if you click on the nba tab in your spreadsheet that we email out bennett To an update on that later today so you can take a look at what the bucks situation looks like going forward here but here are the teams that have over twenty million in space for next year. That you realistically could probably figure your way into a mac slot if you really need it to charlotte chicago. Cleveland dallas miami new york knicks. Have seventy two million space. O'casey fifty nine million san antonio fifty-six toronto can probably get to a max space as well now. Some of these numbers are going to go down. I would guess also a group that you can talk about. Potentially as winners here is restricted. Free agents next summer. Or of course rookies who are trying to guys who are coming off. Skill contracts are trying to negotiate extensions would be restricted free agents next summer shot that market and particularly with the number of bad teams. That have space as well. Yeah you're gary transfer the world Turned this down. But he'll he'll still you'd think be a winner when there are these slots open You mentioned ojea me. I still think toronto. We'll try to not extend him unless he really gives them a deal There are a lot of duncan robinson. Huge winner right. I mean i certainly wouldn't take the extension from the heat. He's going to get more than that. You'd think so there are just massive massive ripple effects from this and. I'm sure we'll be talking about those for years to come quick. Break here to remind you that. 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How are you my friend What day is it. put years it. it's been it's been a whirlwind over the last month or so An nba podcasts at the nba. Play content so you can't really complain about that. No that's true. I mean the opposite would certainly be A much greater predicament. So yeah. I am not complaining in the slightest of but i'll be ready for the season to start and only doing one podcast today. That will that will be. There'll be awesome but we've got lots of talk about here with the utah jazz. So let's get right into it. And i think the place i want to start because they have so much continuity other than derrick favors is. I think we can talk about where this team was in the regular season last year. They're going to bring the same top seven back and then they add dirk can talk about. How jerk favors fits into what this team was. And hopefully improve this group based on what they were last year. So i mean what they did is your. They just made a tremendous hit it right. They went from being a defensive minded team. And the offense just wasn't good enough to keep up with houston golden state. No matter how good a how good a a game they had Which people really missed a few years back like when they played houston and golden state in the playoffs actually had a pretty good defense games. They held both those teams generally below their season average of what their efficiency us but their offense wasn't good enough to catch up to that difference so they made these pretty tremendous pivots right. They took offense point guard. Mike conley replacing defensive. Point guard and ricky rubio. They made an offense change and boy about data for rudy gobert they. They made an offensive changing. George neon for jae crowder. And they added jordan clarkson said dante exum so they took four players that you would say are defensive leaning and change them to offensive leaning players and then from december twenty four th to the start of the bubble they were the number one offensive team in the league so they did what they intended. The defense interns slipped about eleven in the league. And it really slip. When rudy gobert was off the floor. Yeah and so. That in theory is what Derrick favors is there to alleviate and the jazz obviously you know they had to make some moves that to avoid the hard cap and potentially we'll see the luxury tax to bring in favors. And re-sign jordan clarkson as well but it is the thought that he's going to be exclusively a backup this year or is it possible that he could start as he did all those years at least in some matchups honestly me. I don't know like that's the first answer this question. And i think it's going to evolve and i think one of the really interesting things. This team is like the eight guys you've talked about are all pretty darn good right and you know i actually would say that the the eight lead guys on this roster probably are all about thirty minutes tonight players not go bare and donovan being more. Well that's two hundred and forty minutes. You're done now. Well you're not going play eight-man rotation right. You're just not gonna do that. Maybe you are in the playoffs. So it's going to be interesting to see how they play. It is derek. If derek plays twenty four minutes a night then all of a sudden he's gotta find a way to play ten of those with rudy. That's somewhat contrary where the game's going but it has. It was positive in the plus minus category for three years in a row. Diminishing each year little bit. But it did you know it was plus so if it becomes a lineup that you use throughout the game and it's plus four instead of being plus eight. Maybe that's okay. I don't know we'll see how it plays out. They've never done it where it placed bench units and maybe they'll play bench units that would be that would be a little interesting too because most pendants small and i think part of the reason why they thought this could work together. Was it wasn't good enough offensively. While you're also starting ricky rubio back then as you mentioned they now have more of an offensive point guard. Because i think that's one of the huge questions is if you have a mike conley shooter on the floor and boy on shooter on the floor and maybe a joey. So you've got three like the bass like say donald taking his break right there or you have donovan. Can you survive with better offensively. Do you think that that swings and a little bit. I think it's possible. And the other thing i'll say too is part of the reason i think that there. They felt like that. That couldn't work in the long term And i don't believe that this is necessarily their best starting on evidence one that they should use all the time to be clear but the teams were houston and golden state. That's who they're chasing. And you weren't going to beat those teams with derrick favors starting at the four. You just simply weren't going to score enough to keep up with them and they were so. Three point focused that favors and go bare particularly golden state. You're just the advantage that that brings protecting the rim wasn't as much of an advantage as it might be. It's other teams now. Though you're chasing after the la lakers will they're going gonna start to biggs You're chasing after the denver nuggets. They're gonna start to biggs. The you're chasing after portland. They might start that collins. It at times You know you've got the memphis grizzlies in this car. We're chasing after portland come on now. Well fine they'd poured portland has made a conference finals in the last few years. But that's not no. I shouldn't say that you're chasing after portland. I think denver. At i mean if you're chasing after denver we'll see. We'll see this year the lakers. I think that's certainly more legitimate to this. Lindsay's talked about that knowledge. Jazz general manager dennis. Lindsay's talk about that and all the press conferences. He's been a part of where he's talked about that. The jazz played the lakers game in salt lake city last year. And they just they just were physically outmanned in that game to the point in which they really kind of looked back at that as a as the roster just wasn't big wasn't strong enough to handle and they believe that so. That is a large part of what they've talked about. Is the reason why they've done this. They lost that game one. Twenty-one ninety-six at home in december and they just got whitewashed lakers were up eight earlier of eighteen by the half there. Twenty by the time they started in the fourth quarter it was just they just got blasted well and now a few differences though between when derrick favors with here lasting number one. He kind of knows the deal at this point. I think you know he's played. He's gone to another team. He played center there. You know i think perhaps he fancied himself as more of a natural power forward with the way. The game has changed. I think there's there's a thought okay. Well hey i'm a power forward. I wanna start at power forward. And now he also started center for another team and so coming back here. He made the decision to come back. And he knows that buoyant bogdonovich was the star at the four. And i would imagine that. They certainly didn't guarantee him. A starting spot so i think part of why he was in the starting lineup was maybe just for emotional reasons and just also because they didn't have enough players at that point. I mean they needed to get You know twelve minutes tonight with gobert favors together because they just didn't have the guys you know george yang wasn't as good back then. The depth was a little bit more limited. So i i think that now having favors come back by guests would be that the jazz sounded mostly so that you don't have those ten to fifteen minutes a game and tony bradley. And now they're going to have an awesome that unit of that being a real problem and then maybe if he's gonna play with gobert a little bit match matchups. They can do that too. That's kind of my thinking on what the acquisition is about. The team is really good last year. Except for one. Tony bradley's on the floor except for in place rudy gobert right. Let's just be honest. That's that was a really big problem for them. Last year they were in about the twelfth percentile. I maybe sixteen th percentile overall. When tony bradley was on the floor and so they had to address that that for you know tony. Bradley developed a pretty good offense player. They just never could figure out a way to using defensively. And so when he in the sixteen th percentile overall defensively when he was on the floor. One fifteen point six. They reminded six point. Two and gobert was off the floor last year They were twenty-first percentile. Overall in gobert they found lineups that work late in the year. The credit the coaching staff. They kind of found this. Clarkson ingles neang bradley at work. It didn't matter who was at the guard spot and they were very successful. But there's no reason to believe that they won't be just as successful. that clarkson ingles neang favors and whoever's at the guard position line so where were these guys last year before bogdonovich went down. Everyone knows what happened in that crazy series with denver in the bubble denver was injured so as utah. I'm a little bit skeptical of how much we take from that series just because it was just a completely insane series with some of the offensive performance in there are more fifty point performances basically in that series than you had in any full playoffs before that i it was unbelievable and then you know so mike conley had to miss a couple of games as well. It was really just a totally insane series. So maybe the way that they played particularly some of their best units with bogdonovich is more indicative. So what's the answer that. How were they last year when they had some of their best groups on the floor. So my most honest answer to this is i don't know. And here's why don't know they were thumping people right before the bubble but the teams they were thumping. We're washington cleveland york. And a great winning in boston. They beat detroit got they won five straight and they got beat by toronto. You know turned out to be pretty good and then it stopped and if you look back up there was you know there was a winning streak in there. When they they looked really good they won ten in a row. Most of those. Were you go back. And look at that win streak. There was like a good win against portland. A good win against the clippers than most of them were against lesser teams and they had a stretch of games coming which we're going to be against some of the best defensive teams in the league. They had been the number one offensive team from december twenty four to march eleventh that even better than the historic dallas team and they add this stretch of games coming that we're going to be against some of the elite defensive teams in the league and you were going to find out what they do and we never found out and they use the bubble in a way in a different manner they lost. I think six of the eight and the bubble because they were trying to Maybe maybe it was five of the eight two. They used it to let their younger guys get some major minutes. Then they played that wacky playoff series. I left last year really not knowing and boy differently we would feel about if in fact a single mike conley three at the end goes in right like it's just so i'm really left at the end of last year. Not knowing and pretty uncertain there were stretches middle of the year where they lost five straight to houston san antonio denver portland and denver. And i would've told you they were awful and had no chance after losing those five straight and yet then they turned around and beat three of those teams in the miami heat back to back to back to back right afterwards. At which point. I would have told you they were great. They came at all star break and they lost five four or five straight. If i remember correctly and you're like oh my gosh. They're terrible five straight so they were wacky. And you know they didn't have a consistent rhythm and i never had a feel that the team cohesively kind of came together last year. Yeah or how would you feel about them if they just closed out the denver nuggets in five after absolutely destroying them into those games than and having a a plus point differential for the series. That's another question. So they do it so they don't but they're one hundred percent if there had not been the boycott the stoppage. They win that series right. Get like that. Allow denver to regroup denver's credit. Give them all the credit in world. Gary harris thick enough time for gary hair ski back he became. I'm not like they win that series if there's not the stoppage and then we feel different. If you're looking for a new easier take on fantasy basketball. Checkout underdog fantasy. Did this new game called best ball. You draft a team like you normally do. 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Just because he's the things like as a jazz announcer as jazz reporter and as a jazz fan. I'm really interested. So what is this idea that favors comes back. And we're going to be able to be an elite defensive team in those minutes where we were really pretty bad defensively with tony bradley of the floor and the only thing that makes me kind of worry about that. A little bit is if you go back and look when favors was. It doesn't make me works makes me. It's a question right to your point into question not to worry when favors was on the floor without go. Bear the jazz and ninety second percentile defensively two years ago. Okay that's pretty awesome. Jae crowder played like all of those minutes. Joe ingles virtually played all of those minutes. Well those are above average defensive players now. That lineup is neang and clarkson probably angles as well and either conley or donovan. Can that group be as good defensively. Is favors really key or was it crowder or was it better stoppage of the ball the defense event. I don't know the answer to that question to me. That's a little bit of kind of you. Know what i what i'm interested in finding out that would that would be the first one. What's your thought on that. So i think even when you look at joe ingles derrick pitts. I'm not sure that they are the same defenders that they were two years ago. I know derek swing twenty eight but it is definitely has had a number of niggling injuries. Over the years. He had a rough bubble although again. I'm not gonna put too much stock in you. Know the four games or whatever it was there and he still was a huge difference maker for new orleans defensively last year. But i still think he's not quite as good not quite as athletic as he was particularly moving his feet on the perimeter of they want to go that route enjoying goals as well i thought he really had some struggles. Defensively were a couple years ago. He could keep up with someone. Like chris paul okay and they couldn't put on jamal. For example in the bubble he really was getting towards the end to try to find another direction there. So i i agree with you and then with out there you know. He's a great shooter. Good team defender but it is going to be a little slow. you know they just. Overall the team doesn't have a ton of athleticism and in particular with that backup unit. But i think that team could be really good offensively. I think derrick favors as a screener a role bank be a lot more than what twenty bradley was giving you and i think he's still better defensively than bradley and so i think they could be passable defensively with that group but they can continue to be pretty solid offensively and they just they can play the way that quinson are wants to play with the most pick and rolls in the league with a very solid roll man for forty eight minutes and so just to have really if all those guys are healthy no real holes in the rotation. There's no emmanuel moody. George yang the ninth man instead of the the seventh man. At times a. I think that's really good. I like the theory. Bring in favor of so. I think that bench unit is gonna be solid if they start getting some injuries that change dirk as an injury risk as well but i definitely liked that group to be sure. Yeah i mean it's interesting. The backups favors is a backup center. Like there's going to be nice where you're gonna thank goodness. You have him in the sense. That like the clippers have to surprise. You know for league. That's going away from centers right. The clippers have senators jackson. Hayes is okay. I like him. We'll see how he is maturity. Wise portland is you mentioned. Should have to. Ns cantor's good backup center right like those shot. Homes is pretty good. Senator or hassan. Whiteside whichever that isn't like the backup centers in the west as you kind of alluded to earlier are surprisingly good without even talking about mantras herrell. I think that's reasonable but some of those guys aren't really the greatest defensively. Which i think is where favors brings it up and you just hope that having defensive anchor like him at more of an offensive group around him. You're going against second unit. So you're not going to get killed. Hopefully defensively on the other. The second question. I have is is. There's no signs of actually you can kind of digest the analytics and look into it. And there's no scientists is taking place at all. But joe ingles is thirty three years old and he's vital to the team's success he's been he's been an incredibly successful piece of this team and as the third ball handler and the third pick and roll guy and he just does a lot of really important things for this team and he's thirty three and Again i can't find anything statistically i have all the metrics i liked to look at like is your steal rate going. Wait out as you know you're dunk rate. Going down. will his went from three to two. So that doesn't really count is going down Those what are you trying to find where your show is shootings not down. Your in percentage is going to get less good. if you're aging shot seventy four percent at the rim last year he did go to the rim little less than ever hasn't his career but if he slows down. That's a pretty big gap on this team. Yeah well and it's funny. Because he is he probably uses physically slowing down as a finisher and pace more than just about any other player. I've i've always said he's seven. That young players should look at as far as his finishing. Because he has your athleticism. He's still shoot. Awesome percentage at the rim just by timing out shop lockers and taking the momentum out of their jumped By just being so patient around the rim put. Yeah i mean i. I'm more concerned about him again. Off or defensively. I think that's where you know you could put him on small guards couple years ago. I don't you can't really do that anymore. I don't think so. That's that's one of the mike. Conley is other guy. Used to be really good perimeter defender. He's a little bit older. Donovan has was supposed to be that of guy coming out and other than a little a few possessions on jamal. Murray in the bubble you know he really has been more of an offensive player. He hasn't necessarily taken on. That challenge hasn't gone that well when he's tried to be more of a stopper. So i mean the overall perimeter defense is something that i just i think is a big concern for these guys. A lot of burden on rudy gobert dirk favors to to weaknesses. They needed to try to look at it in the off season. And they've taken care of one of them right there. One was second unit defensively when bears off the floor they solve that and the other was overall athleticism and they probably didn't solve that and there's probably impossible to solve both in the same offseason hollinger on hollinger and dunkin kind of debate. The jazz offseason. I thought you had a great point. John was kind of beating up on them a little bit and and in the vacuum of john's discussion. I thought john was probably right. Also but your point was hey. They got the best player available and they use their slot. There wasn't to your point like jay crowder was probably the like. He's not very athletic anymore. There you know there wasn't an athletic wing. There was on the market that we're adding to this roster to become more athletic. Yeah i mean dirt. George junior might have been the one guy that you could look at where they may be offer more money than portland but they certainly couldn't offer more playing time than portland. He's they're talking about him. Starting there wasn't gonna start for the jazz. So you've got ingles. You've got roy. So neil already. In these roles they work at a find some better than those guys with the mid level and so they just didn't have the playing time to offer to a guy like that. If you assume that the mid level was the most they could offer so. I think to get favors. You might be a little overqualified And also as. I've said i don't expect you to comment on this. But if you re repairs not under contract for next year and dirk favors is and that's something to consider. Yeah i dare trump juniors. I you know basketball geeky me. That's one of the players. I most interesting to watch. Because i mean he's a twenty eight percent three point shooter like he's in a great athlete and miami plays with all this motion and all this movement and all this stuff and he's always cutting always slicing and you had portland doesn't play that way right. They play with damon. Cj the flares and and the problem with moe heartless and alpha ruch was that they couldn't dribble they couldn't pass it they couldn't shoot and it really slowed down what they did and they were the lowest team because that will guess what their jones can't shoot he can't really can't pass so they're kind of back to where they were with having. I'm pretty curious to see how that works. Yeah although robert covington is a much better shooter than the other of amino is whoever you want to say that jones easily twenty three. I think maybe we'll see if he can make at least a a corner three At ironically the blazers podcast. When i'm doing right after that soil find out a little bit more about what. Their thoughts are on his role than any other kind of things that you're going to be monitoring this year as you think can make a big difference in the as variables jazz successor failure. So it's funny little number and there's a bunch of little things. I asked him about it today when i talked to him. But like mike conley scored over twenty seven times in orlando only six times all year before orlando like that's so he got a break address where he wasn't a team and so his answer when i asked about it he said. Hey certainly. wasn't there right. So i had to pick up the slack. There was more there he said but also like i said it was. His mind was happening before the bubble he had come off his hamstring injury. The second and begun to figure out what it was that this team needed from him and what they wanted and he said frankly you know having time outside of the bubble being able to just kinda sit and digest it i was able to understand was doing and action went back and looked at the numbers. It's pretty accurate like if you look back. His final thirteen games Before the break the bubble seventeen points a game. He shot forty six percent from the floor. Forty four percent from three. I didn't went over. Twenty four of those four of those six times. A twenty were after february. I like the other way to stay. The same stat is after february first. He went over twenty eleven times. You've only done it twice all year prior so we might see a very different mike conley this year. Yeah i it's it's always tough to know because this is he had a big adjustment period. This is the first time playing with like a real role man who's going to go up and get elliott. You know he was playing with markelle soul more of a pop man Then he had the hamstring injury as well the then he comes back. And you're i completely agree with you. That he got better and better as the season went along. I thought that by the time they reached the bubble like he was. He became the guy that they traded for. He became the guy that they expected him to be. And so you can say all right you know this. His second year in the system. He's going predator but obviously age is a weight pulling in the opposite direction. For right i mean. Both the angles are crossover. But hopefully the young kids get better. Yeah i i mean. That's that's definitely a thought. So who else do you see. Potentially taking a step forward for this group this year. I think right. Why do you think gobert. Because he's gotten better every year frankly despite the absurd espn ranking that dropped half of his ranking points from fourteen to twenty six this guy get out ahead of the young players lopez sometimes. He's gotten better every year. He added a little bit. I mean he's obviously his biggest offensive weaknesses. There's money between him and the basket he just can't score Shot thirty percent outside of five feet. I think over the last two years like that's just not good enough But i think you've just he's he's got. He was better with the ball in his hands. Getting better at that last year because he actually got to the rim He was interesting today. When i talked to him he thought he he could get better defensively. And i think it really actually has gotten better defensively. Because he's gotten better getting out of the floor. They were more willing to switch with him last year he was actually the number one player the league on isolation which is a little bit because people post. I can't do anything with them. But you know what. He's not a problem if he switches on you at thirty feet and he seven nine wingspan. He's he's a problem to deal with a as a player. The problem for the jazz has been when you do that. They had no secondary rim defensive. Defense all apart yes. I agree with that as well But i'm Yeah this is not a team that has a lot of switch ability. Be sure. I thought we took a little bit of step backward defensively as far as production but it is difficult to separate. He was the number two lake. I just you know me. I love rudy to death and i watch him every night and i just don't think it's true and it's not true because the jazz were the only team in the nba was in the top five hundred nine shots at the rim and the top five to nine johnson three. That's only because rudy right every other team that denies shots at the rim is allowing a boatload of threes because they're deciding to protect the rim. The only team in the league last year in the top five denying shots at the rim and denying was with jess you go to shots defended the only two players in all of the nba that were below fifty. One percents defending shots and they brook lopez and really go there like i. I don't see it like i. There's no data. That showed that i have found and i and i like my data. That shows that rudy. The jazz were less. Good defending the rim. When rudy gobert was on the floor last year than others. Yeah i i'm just thinking to subjectively watching him and that's not to say that he wasn't amazing last year. It's more to just say that. I thought he was even more other-worldly before i just thought it was just a little easier to score at the basket as to say it's it's difficult to separate that between the back. The news playing with worst defensive players last year than he had been. But i you know. I didn't i didn't had quite the about in the regular season now. I thought he was unbelievable in the series against the nuggets until those last couple of buckets that yokich got in game seven. He basically gave up on posting up on bear like he was getting nothing. And you know we saw that. Yokich was pretty much unstoppable in the post against anybody else that he want against Even against the lakers So i mean. I thought he was really really good in the bubble but yeah i just. I didn't see like guys who go in and it wasn't just like absolutely no hope. It was a glimmer of hope the subjective viewpoint on it We go back to one other thing. How gray's yokich where does that. How great is yokich. I mean he's just incredible like the shots yokich made in that series. When he like you right he stopped posting up and he still found a way to like. I had somebody say to me in that series. Jamal murray is incredible but yokich is the problem. Still like yoga is just that great while at if he shoots forty percent from three then. Yeah i mean that was something that he'd those the big difference that he said he hadn't done i mean if he doesn't shoot forty percent from three then i think he has kind of a rough series. Frankly against gobert. Who was really taking him out of his post up game and his assist game in a lot of ways but yeah i mean the fact that he was and i think a lot of times he just doesn't look for that shot it's kind of an afterthought but the fact that he was kind of forced into that war and that he didn't have a guilty conscience about taking that shot actually made a make it more. That's my theory anyway So you said donovan. Mitchell as someone who can get better and obviously he had a historic series against the denver nuggets which was obviously extremely wacky and It calmed down by the end. But just the overall bubble until the end of the first ron had some just crazy levels a of offense so my question is what is the next step for donovan mitchell. How realistic is it that he takes it to really get into being. You know a solid all. Nba level player especially given the incredible competition at the car position. Yeah so the next step is the off about three and we saw in the bubble. It's not it's not. I think he hit fifty four percent in the playoff series against If i remember correctly on the off the bounce three or fifty one percent okay. He's not going to do that but he did. Take seven a game which is big stretch. And here's if you look over his three year career on the off the ballots three. He was twenty nine percent his rookie year. He was thirty two or thirty three percent each next two years it was. It's one or the other. I don't remember exactly so. He's not been a good off the bouts three point shooter if he can move that thirty two to thirty six or thirty seven now. It's an efficient shot. He's getting for a game and talking to him recently. He said i got to the foul line so much more against denver. Because of the fact. I was kidding off about three that they had to come out on me and then i was able to get to the rim and draw those fouls. So he's got a he's got to stop with the floater. The way he did he started taking that a little bit too much and that was keeping the free throw line but that might have been because they weren't they didn't feel a threat to his about three so they were just dropping back and he didn't get there coming out on getting by them and being able to make that next play at least the way he's portraying it so i think that after about three may open up his entire game and if you look at you know similar players bradley beal dame lillard at the same stage of their career. You see that uptake from thirty two to thirty six percent on that shop. Yeah that's and that obviously was the huge difference in his shooting. Performance against denver was ridiculous. He's not gonna be able to shoot like that for an entire season. And also i mean denver's defensive effort early in that series. Was frankly pretty pathetic that they they got it together. But i mean the amount of space that he had coming off those screens in part because he was hitting the shot and they had to really go over it in the screen was being set way out high. And then he had all this room to come down downhill and attack but yokich was really bad early in that series so i i'm i think it's going to be a mix obviously but that is to me that off the bounce. Three is the the step and then the other thing too. You mentioned the flutters if he can get to the rim and now you really forcing that guy off the wing to crash in to help out then the can start setting up this great spot of three point shooting that they have a little bit more. So yeah the distribution you continuing to get a little bit better with this handle and his pick and roll craft But it all does start to me agra to three the one area where domino also is much better. that didn't get notice because he was scoring a century is he did. He was making far better. Reads at the point guard position In doing a doing a far better job in the coaches minds of understanding that position that he had in the past comfortable playing with him with the ball in the hands and then he in the past. Yeah and i think having him right at the top of the floor with a few more options off the dribble than trying to attack from the wing. I think that works a little bit better for him as well and just the fact that they had all this shooting around him just makes it so much easier. The other thing i want to see from him though is getting better defensively. We mentioned that they don't have really anyone who can be a perimeter stopper royston. Neil is lou undersized. But he's probably the guy against your bigger wings. I don't expect out of those guys but if you have a really great pick and roll threat like someone like jamal. Murray executive guard that guy all the game but at the end of games like he has the athleticism in the length to be that player he was. That's the player he was supposed to be coming out of college. He's obviously well exceeded expectations. But i think that aspect has been lost and so really being able to take on that challenge of guarding great point guards and competing to get over screens. I think he could really improve up. He you know he said it the other day and zoom call about his contract and he signed and he said i need to get back to being. The player was drafted to be. I couldn't he couldn't have said it better. I completely agree with them And they have enough offensive firepower that he should be able to conserve a little bit energy and put more like he had such a massive load on the offensive end on some of those early teams a message from the virginia department of health. We're still seeing a surge in covid nineteen cases so please do your part to stop the spread. Limiter gatherings stay six feet from others and wear a mask. Go to vh dot. Virginia dot gov to learn more Let's talk about some of the young guys in this group who haven't come up yet outside of that nine man rotation that we've talked about so i want to just kind of go through them and give you a list of guys and put in order to how much maybe we expect them to play. We've got jon morgan. Me owning drill brantley a on a two way. Nigel whims gos- still on this team. Right and then Elijah who's hughes their Their draft pick. Gimme put those guys in order for me. How much you expect them to play. Miana terrell brantley. jon morgan. interesting brantley ahead of morgan. That's for a guy who started games. I know tony jones was on your pod. Last week thing he was thinking about. Maybe starting on morgan. I know you were Surprised at that proposal but It does surprise me for you to say that brantley will be a ahead of morgan. But let's start with only here was how do you see him fitting in. And what are going to be the factors l. determine how much he can play so the first thing only i think he can play any of two and a half positions so it just means he has a route two different ways on the floor. He's year does that make sense And so i think he can play the two or three and frankly if he's on the floor with joe and joe becomes the point guard he could be the one right while joe's being the two of the three wa ball handling so i think he has a lot of different routes to get on the floor. He's a good defensive player. He is tough as hell and he is a competitor feisty. Sometimes too much show like he is. He is relentless I think you'll be able to shoot. Well quinn's offense gets really good. Looks royce o.'neil shock quality catch and shoot. Threes is the best of anybody in the nba for the last three years. So if he's taking those minutes not that he'd be take royce's minutes but just that similar role in the on line on the floor he's gonna get looks. I think he can knock down to an adequate level And he's just got an mba body so those things all play him you know the tricky thing for all these kids last year was that all of them were the number option particularly brantley and yoni And also justin right forman Who are the sacramento. Traffic's you're there all the number one options at their small school that they went to and so they had to learn how to narrow focus. Their game said widener game which is probably much more difficult process. And so what once they had to do that. I think may only has figured out how to do. The jazz use the bobble i thought really intelligently seething didn't really matter because there was no homecourt advantage so they use those games to try to get time in. Nba setting that would never be replicated with an understanding. That summer league wasn't about was about to not happen. And so only and brantley. I really stepped forward in that little stretch. It's not a lot of minutes. Nate but it's it's a lot when you consider the other choice was like zero and there was no summer league and so i thought they did a good job. I mean i think if you correct me. If i'm wrong but i think may have played twenty five or more than three or four games and just was able to kinda get his feet under. I thought he was fine. Like eight points a game and that stretch and he was perfectly good. And i think if you to continue any thought of that before only i think it be can shoot the ball. He's got nba athleticism and so as long as he can make some shots and defend not screw up. I think there. There is a potential role for a minute. And i could start on bradley. I mean i. The game that they played against the spurs actually did that one for nba league. Pass a no. That was a game where a lot of second third unit guys were playing. But i was very impressive. Apparently i knew little about him. He'd been on a two. He hadn't played much for the jazz. If at all. But you know to be to fifty. Pretty good feet has jump shot. I know that's been a focus for them but the form looked totally solid. I know he's got this ball handling skill which you know. I think it's been a focus of his game before as you mentioned. That's something that's probably not going to be something that they're gonna look for him to do. Other than maybe the occasional grab and go or or pass. But i mean if you can shoot the ball and you've got that type of strength and you can move your feet decent length like i really liked those bones For a guy could be valuable. So i don't know of israel. Shoot it well enough. Yeah the question. Nobody's gonna you know he's gonna play quiet. Leonard lebron james the toughest job there is but like if you look roster. That's the gap right. The nap on this roster is we just don't have somebody who's big physical strong and athletic to play those guys. I notice if you're listening to this and you're like what is locked talking about. How is how you possibly telling me this guy. I've never heard of the college of charleston is gonna play the best guys in the world. That's the gap on this roster. Right now and so. I know it sounds insane. And i'm not saying he's going to do it for a long period of time but i do actually think that that's like i think that's gonna end up being his role like i think he's gonna two-way guy. You know we who ilie play early in the year third third game of the year fourth game the unions clippers like i suspect suspected active. That game do. I suspect to the active in san antonio against the marta rose. I think he might be active against brooklyn against kevin durant right like early. You might be. He might be active january eight against milwaukee and janas. Like i think he'll he might get some minutes early in the questions whether they can knock down that shop. Yeah and you know it seems like maybe like okay from the quarter is not that great above the break. Like that kinda guy at this point but his form doesn't look broken to me. I mean from what. I but my best recollection. We've seen a lot of basketball since then but Yeah i mean obviously you being around the team more. You'd have a better idea of that and then join. Morgan is interesting guy. He seems like the kinda guy that the coaching staff loves. He's got some switch ability working on the corner three again. Not really above the break guy at this point other than rebounding. I'm not really sure what is. Nba offensive role is but as kind of a poor man's version of paul millsap. Defensively was kinda how. I saw him the idea of him at least and he started some games. Xtra rudy gobert one. Mike conley was out and he did. Okay drum mortgage really interesting if you go back and get the last year. He's like on an exhibit ten so anybody can pick him up and the jazz like really quickly if you go back to that year signed into a deal right like kind of a stunningly early move. They they're coaching staff clearly sauce. I think they signed him on november twenty first so right like pretty early signing. They saw something very early in g. League play that said to them. Oh this guy can play in the nba and he you know. And if we don't do something someone else is going to go put him on a to grab him so that someone they clearly saw they like. He's he's older so all these guys are they're all twenty-three all college players and so that's clearly someone that's the only reason i didn't include juwan morgan ahead of drought brantley. And i could you know. And i i mean honestly nate. We're talking about probably one hundred fifty minutes year in one hundred and eighty so the number. I just like jon morgan. Got to play in front of derrick favors. That's not going to happen john. Morgan plays in front of george. The an like george yanking really shoot it like giral. Brantley can do something considerably different than the players. He would be the would be playing those minutes instead and so i can see where they might use it. But that's not to say that. I think that jurrell bradley's a better player than jon morgan or better prospect. I just was kind of going off the idea that they're natural. I just think these young guys you got to find a route like you. It's a little bit like on the jazz graphic of abu gave every you know right now. It's hard to find a route for him. I don't think you'll play much but at the same time it was like well. What about dozen being. He's not like you would add to decide. He's dramatically better than owning. I don't know that he is maybe turn out to be. But when you're making that selection it's probably not abundantly clear and you're not gonna be developed two of them at the same time. I think morgan has a better path than brantley. Because i see favors. Having to system games out. And i think that morgan makes more sense in a backup big man role than us bouquet just because katie is going to be just i mean. All these rookies are almost dry dead. This year with no chan- yeah and particularly as big band quarterback of the defense and he's got some things to work on as far as his movement. Defensively as well you can come and crush some dunk scene and get on the glass. But so i think morgan just and they used him in a backup center role as they tried to at least When tony bradley wasn't working out in the denver cher's didn't go much better. But i think if you have to break glass in case virgin see for a center. I think it'll be organ well. Yeah i mean brent. Six four six five despite being two fifty one note on favors he played seventy seven seventy six games. The last two years in utah like he in that medical staff have something together. It might be large reason. Why derrick favors want to return to utah. Sense I hope that's the case. Certainly but just as the guy who has chronic back in any issues I'm i'm just a little worried about it. You know you're orleans medical staff as unique reputation Yeah although they did get aaron nelson and supposedly were the those going to be improved. But you know. I don't know if they've gotten there yet. Shack harrison they signed to. I guess he could bring in. He does add that element of just like elite perimeter defense. Though obviously his shooting a problem maybe the jazz feel like they can develop them and he's gonna just get such wide open. Looks that maybe you can make enough of them to be out there. I don't know much about shack airs. And i can tell you what all the people like texted today and they told me about him but i would be total one hundred percent liar if i claimed a lot of knowledge on jack harrison. Yeah what would they Give me one second. Let me pull up the phone. That i won't say who. They're from various people around the league either reporters or scouts who've watched a lot of them. Let me see what. I can find here. here's an example for you. It said a relentless physical quick defender. He just never stops nothing. Fazes in tireless has worked very hard on the offensive game. Jumper still a bit wonky. But he started making rotation player for sure. In one of the all-time nicest people are going to boost the jazz offseason. Great up a ton now you. He loves the his defense hater. Just kidding yeah. Well he he likes he likes the the people who follow the just. That's the or who a who report on the same thing so let let's transition here now Who's gonna close games for these guys any combination of seven or any combination of eight convicts closing closing and now pick your pick. What matches on that night right. If they got big guards. Mike donovan can't play together then might might not close. They've got guards. Were mike and clothes. And you certainly close mike. If you need you know. Joe joe closes some boy on closer some face close some and if you needed defender you're probably putting rice out there. The one that gets me. And i missed on this so badly. Last year i was convinced. The line of mike conley dot com and mitchell. Joing those boy by donovan rudy. Gobert was unguardable thought. Yeah four forty percent. Three point shooters the best room roller in the league. Like how can that fail. Totally did so. I don't know what lineup and quinn's strength is kind of figuring out which ones too often go but the light of the night thought last year would be great was minus seven. So you know. Here's what's interesting last year. Here's here's the one thing. I do think interesting about this team. So if you take the lineups you take all the guys that are gone. Right so emmanuel moody. Let's say we're not gonna have george hang out to close right. You're not gonna terrell bradley. Jeff green's gone. You start getting rid of lake all of the guys that you're not going to have on the floor at the end of the game and you look at the remaining labs so obviously at this point you know were not. I've eliminated derrick favors. But i've got you know. I've got pretty good players. You know. the the core seven guys left plus fifteen plus eleven plus eleven plus eighteen plus eighteen. Those are the lineups. Yeah i mean. I think this could be a pretty good regular season team. I think it's a little more lady bird minus seven. That's the yeah the your My life so let let me make sure i didn't do that very well. There's five core lineups that play a lot together. Yeah donovan royce boy on joe. Rudi plus fifteen. Mike donovan royce boy rudy plus eleven donovan jordan royce boy out rudy plus eleven. Mike donovan rudy. Joe rudi whatever plus nineteen and then minus minus seven. I mean the key is rudy. The fact is if you put anyone with rudy. Were great every single player. That's ever been next to rudy is plus or plus like. Oh look at the only one that was derrick favors three years ago but before that he was plus eight or more but tobbaco plus eight. Jonas plus like these are not good players. Jae crowder plus you put rudy next seven eight. He's great so i. I see it a little bit more limited in terms of closing line-up than you do. I think it's going to be in. Most circumstances can be conley. Donovan mitchell boyon and rudy all out there that fifth spot is the one that i think would be a little bit more matchup dependent. I mean maybe it's clark said if he really has it going and the other team doesn't have any kind of as good small forward ike more likely though it's between ingles and royce o.'neil and it just depends on if ingles can guard the other teams three singles if you need voice o.'neil to guard him or there's maybe a smaller guy that conley and donovan can't handle than you know to go with the o'neal would be my thought on it which was kinda how it was last year but i just i don't see clarkson closing games over mike conley very often for example. Yeah it depends on matches perfectly comfortable with any of those guys close so yeah i mean and they're all pretty good players big strengths for this team that we haven't talked about yet i've talked about. I don't go this long without talking about rudy so that donald donald emerging to be great. I mean that's that's what this team is your we can. We can disguise walk. But you're putting rudy. Got the best defensive player in the world who alters benz the defensive florida manner that no other player in the league. Ken and you've got an emerging offense star with the best rim roller and lake. So when you put those two together. That's that's then you've got great shooting right there. The number one shooting team and league. So that's that's who they are. Yeah i think at least during the regular season this offense is one. I mean you mentioned how good they were unethical is one of those things where you know. I always call this matt. Barnes rule because remember one year with the clippers. The first two weeks of the season you know he was shooting like nineteen percent for three people like Matt barnes is awful. They have to get rid of and then you look down at the end of the year and he shot three seven percenters something that year like the whole jazz offense was kind of matt. Barnes ruled over the first month of the season. And then they just got going like crazy and they started hitting the shots and That they were generating not quite as many midrangers and conley got found his footing. A little bit as you mentioned in february so in this. Statistically this is a really really good offense do they have like the one guy at the any games who at like the absolutely level. I'm not sure about that. They have that in the playoffs against elite defense. I'm not sure about that. But in this regular season with all the pick and rolls they run the continuity. They have the coaching. I expect this offense to be very very difficult to guard I don't have this in front of it wasn't of the top five clutch players in the nba lsu. Those are pretty noisy statistics. I i would be when it really gets down to like scoring in an isolation you know. I wouldn't have him as one of the top ten option in the league at the and again personally. I mean that's it's a hell of a list together. I mean there are some great great players in the nba to like randy. I'm watching donovan's progression. Over three years. And i don't disagree. The clutch numbers are noisy but in watching his progression of three years they turned it over to him every night late and i thought he was pretty good at it last year. Yeah two years before that. I think the jazz underperform their point to french Little bit too. I'm just. It's much more of a subjective consideration for me. But i think i don't think they're like a bad clutch team or anything like that Or but i think they're just the an offense that they don't have at least as of now a top ten player in the league. Donovan mitchell. We'll get there. But still dot. Just so i i looked it up. Dominant hit the fourth most amount of field goals in the clutch. Anyone in the nba. Last year of those top four. He took more free. Throw an anybody. But chris paul he was third in league and free throw a three throws aid so he was fourth in the league in field. Goals made third in the league and free throws made then those those are good stats If it continues this year i will probably Take a maybe a different tack next year. You're those those data noisy but they're not that noisy in the sense that like if i were to ask you the best clutch players in the league like those guys are all there right like they're you name the top guys. I think those would be the guys you mentioned for example ladonna. It's just had like a really rough year in the clutch last year. And i would take him over donovan mitchell at the end again. Yeah maybe i mean. I mean lucas great but you know seven of forty one from three. Last year i think is what he wasn't clutches. A little interesting right. Is there something to you know what you know. I think lucas amazing. Don't misunderstand me. But what was the the one concern on. Luca was his ability to beat people one on one when he came right that was like the reason he slit like wasn't drafted. It's asinine reason but that was the reason. Well maybe that gets exposed. Little bit at that stage right. I don't know but that that was. That was the feeling of him. Coming out tomorrow rosen. Who's a flipping. You can criticize heat. Walk the mid range. Jumper is not a problem late. In the game he buries. He's spry to class players in the game. And same thing with chris paul at fifty percent. And that's donovan. Picked up his game. Deal the donovan. Free throws late is an interesting one. He really upped his game. A great deal any other strengths. We should talk about for these guys. No i don't think so. I'm trying to think i mean the depth when you talked about that already We talked about the shooting already. An coaching is is solid. I thought quinn wasn't at. It's absolute best the bubble but generally or even over the course of last year took him some time. I think to find his footing with this group. But generally view that as an advantage How about weaknesses. I mean. I think we touched on athletic group right. They're not going to spread. You gonna do what miami you know. You might look at miami zone and you say oh they should place them zone Yeah they don't have that long athleticism the cover that kind of space So i think that's the age of conley and ingles will be interesting to monitor proven depth as well in a season where depth. Maybe more important than ever. You have a guys who really good then maybe eight and a half with neon but then below that if you have an injury or guys have to sit out. Then you are going to some unproven players but be. I don't think there's any i mean. I think they're the deepest team this lakers in the western conference. Eight guys wait for five minutes or more the only other team in the west that has that might be the pelicans. Actually if you believe. Jackson hayes is ready for that otherwise. There's not another team. Maybe maybe the clippers Depending where you think some their guys right now but They got eight guys who can play twenty five twenty eight minutes night. That's about as deep as you can get not many and i don't think there's anyone other the lakers is denied through thirteen. Let me know your i'm You can count me as not jackson as a believer at this point. I'm trying to think of any other weaknesses that stick out to me. Yeah i would just say a and you're gonna be mad at me for this but when you're talking about this team being a true contender starpower. I still don't think that they have a top ten player in the nba on the team and they have a lot of good players and that helps but go up against the lakers. And anthony davis clippers and kawhi leonard like they don't have a player on that level and those are the players that usually take you to the conference finals or the championship. I'm not getting. Espn top hundred lists the jazz in the west. The jazz the clippers had both had five lakers had six. Actually i think the pelicans have had five to. They were the only teams with five players in the top hundred. But the jazz didn't have anyone higher than than eighteen. And so that's the that's absolutely. That's the that's the piece that you know. I think rudy is much higher than twenty-six obviously. I'm pretty clear on that Donovan has gotta move himself from from eighteen to to eleven. And that's our jump. That's you know. That's jumping oversee three in joel embiid and bam by jimmy butler and and equaling yourself to jason tatum. Like that's a. That's a big step defensive. Versatility think you get that ties in with the athleticism of your switching. They can't really do. That was some of the guys that they have. You know rudy can get out on the floor personally but if he does that then you don't have that backup rim-protector in most of their lineup. So i think if you're you know the rudy again did an awesome job against nicole yokich as best as you possibly could but still ill stretch. Five is gonna cause some problems for their base defense so particularly when you get in the playoffs. I think they're a little bit limited as far as the different types of things that they can do defensively even if they're based scheme with gobert is obviously quite effective. I know they live by this but if they have to go to favors under that and able to handle it leash nece- all rights. I know that you issue predictions. But i'm gonna give you my process behind my prediction and put it out there in I encourage you to quibble with it so a season ago. The utah jazz. Were forty four and twenty eight. They did kinda take it easy. Shall we say they developed in the bubble But they were actually you know. They want about three games more than expected even so proclaimed abouts should say they were to win about three games more than would have been expected. They had the point differential of a forty seven team over native. Who game season and they were on pace to win fifty even with the those bubble struggles So i think they're gonna be better than that this year. I think that they. I like this team a lot during the regular season. I think they're going to be a very difficult to stop offense. They've got the continuity that a lot of teams don't have so the lack of training camp. Isn't that much of a problem. They got a lot of vets who were smart. Who aren't gonna screw up it. They have enough depth to deal with one injury maybe to gets to be a little bit dicey mitchell and gobert. Both of them never get hurt lately. I mean gobert has had some injuries early in his career but these basic made it through three straight years now perfectly healthy so i think that this group i'm going to go. I think they're a fifty two win team over the course of eighty two games And offensively i see them kind being in the lower end of the top. Ten when you look at the the aggregate performance then defensively. I kind of have them right around that level as well so kind of in the six to ten range on both ends and that gets you to a low fifty one team so fifty two games over the course of a eighty two game season so that would be forty. Six wins the season in seventy two. Such a weird thing. I mean you knock off thirteen percent of the schedule right. The sample size just gets a little smaller Miami last year right wasn't miami about eight. Offensively and ninth defensively. That's kind of describe last year's miami. They won sixty percent of their games last year. Yeah there are a little bit worse than that on defense i think. But if i'm thinking what do you think of those projections for them. I on offense and defense. I think the number one offense from december twenty four th to march eleventh is a little skewed because they didn't play some of the best team so if you bring that down to three or four or five year probably in an accurate area of they can shoot it as well as the did last year And then they were. What about eleventh defensively last year and so you know but they were really bad and those minutes without without rudy gobert. So does that get them up to eat. I mean that's a really good basketball team And maybe they're not good. I i don't have a feel. I also would say i. I just think it's so closely put together from maybe three through nine then. I just have a hard time trying to wrap my head around projecting anything here. I think the clippers are a little better than people are giving them credit for. I think the clippers are being to negatively disgust for their problems last year. Actually the lakers. Who are great. Might come back out in the regular season and move into that Hollinger and i agreed or disagreed on that today. I thought they're actually going to be pretty good. And he felt the opposite of. We talked about that. A lot on The lockdown networks. Hollinger dunkin podcasts available. anywhere you. Listen to your podcast. I liked that. Is that the lakers. In that yes. I had a brief moment. Today of optimism is driving as we play for the number. One seed like lakers fall back and all of a sudden you know. We're up with clippers playing for the number one seed. Maybe i think it's quite possible I think there's really you know if i'm wrong about the lakers. Then you know. I think the jazz has a decent enough chances. I could construct an argument for probably sixteen seventeen that maybe everything goes right and they could be the number one in the regular season the only area where i really different than everybody else that i'm i don't have any expertise necessarily could be crazy wrong. I actually think that teams that played the longest in the bubble. Have an advantage coming back now. A disadvantage with everybody kinda quarantined and workouts. Being different not people not having the regular run the fact that they were at elite physical performance most recently. I think it's an advantage to those teams. So i think the denver the boston the la the miami's that were most recently at their physical peace peak performance might start better than other teams. Yeah that's an interesting thought. I mean it definitely seems like lebron in particular is just especially they the championship. He just was not really happy about having to start this early. In his early season performance could reflect that potentially or the amount that he plays early in the season but some of these teams particularly some of the younger ones like a boston for example or or denver. I agree with you on those teams. So we'll see those got you know that lebron guys pretty committed to greatness. So we'll see what he does. Yeah i mean it's hard for him to actually get out there and not be fantastic best case scenario for these guys we touched by the absolute best case scenario. They could get the this. Could be a fifty-seven win type of team. And here's best. Case scenario number one st get home court the virus the virus has been quelled by the Vaccine they can fill back up. Vivid arena with the most raucous fans who haven't been able to cheer for twelve months the home court advantage in altitude becomes real and having the number one seed becomes a mammoth advantage for the jazz. There you go. There's your best case scenario. I think fifty seven. I could see this team. I'll know if they can be a top five defense anymore. The perimeter is Is a little porous but you could see him being seventh on defense and they're you know the top four offense. I could see them get into that type of level. Potentially that will be fun. I'll be. I'll be up for calling that i'll be fun on the worst case. Though i think age just starts to set in a little bit and and you know donna. Mitchell is kind of what he was last year. He doesn't nestle take each step forward. And that mike conley. Joe ingles the fall off little bid and derrick favors struggles with injuries. They struggle as much on the second unit as they did last year. Because of that. And i could see it falling into kind of like a forty five forty six win type of range over Over an eighty two game season. Which would be do some math here. Forty wins overall but so kind of right on the playoff borderline. Yeah you know as long as they've had rudy. They've never had that problem so i'd be surprised. Now that's the worst case. Scenario is really. Yeah i mean he. He is even more so than mitchell. He's the one guy that's irreplaceable. Because they have other guys who can create at least a little bit. I think quinn could cobble together. A decent offense with the shooting and ball handling that they have if mitchell missed some time. They went to the second round with rudy gordon. And then they went to the second round with donovan and rudy rudy. Was the common thread between those two. Yeah although they at least that favors the that would be a little bit of insurance. Do you think res play fewer minutes this year no interesting. I never seen him look fatigued on the floor and he's great so i wouldn't see why do that. That's probably the thing that's most underrated about him is. Just what incredible condition. He's the most underrated thing about. It is how hard he practices every day in addition to that but no. I'm fortunate i usually until this year. I got to see that. He practices very hard every day and picks up the level of around last question. Here what are you most looking forward to in this seems like what are you excited about. Generally about jazz basketball here. I think donovan domino's a joy to the game it's always a pleasure to watch him You know. Joe ingles derrick favors for their first basket of the year as they reconnect. Kind of a fun. Utah thing that maybe most people don't know about those do pretty well connected. Dow will be fun I honestly i don't know. I'll do it this year but like one of my most favorite parts about being with his team in this job is like i watched quyen prepare for a game and have a unique game plan and watch it work and it's just incredible. How much that the staff puts together incredible game plan. So you know. Hopefully they'll have enough access to know that that's happening would have in the past and get to see that again because that's a pretty cool moment every year all right well looking forward to the season of jazz basketball and seeing if these guys could take another step forward and obviously david's podcasts. If you love the jazz Is i'm sure you know about it already. But locked on jazz and The overall locked network. You're on the lockdown. Nba podcast was is that wednesdays thursdays thursdays with Bengal brazil. Doing that yup was hanging out. Ben and i hang out chat basketball every wednesday night. Thursday airs thursday and obviously didn't catch david on a league. Pass if you're driving listened to a jazz game unless danny and i are also doing the That league past game violate olive broadcast rights in the legal issue. I don't know about that. no no. We're actually we're legit. We're we're like actually through. Nba leak paths. 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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 170: Kubo and the Fantastic Mr. Whisker

GSMC Movie Podcast

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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 170: Kubo and the Fantastic Mr. Whisker

"Decided torn between a romantic comedy action or an Indie film to watch for the weekend. Well well, golden state media concepts move you. PODCAST is your ultimate guide to the latest movies. Join us as we dissect the latest on the block busters. It's the Golden State media concept's movie podcast. Hello and welcome to the MC movie podcast brought to you by the GS MC podcast network I'm your host Casey bomb and I hope that you are all having a wonderful week. A wonderful Wednesday today's is July first episode one sixty nine so congratulations you have made it through yet another month of twenty twenty. I'm so proud of you. It has been a difficult year, but we're halfway done so. Fake yourself a cake. Self a drink. You deserve it, but for today's episode I'm very excited because I get to talk about one of my favorite things in the film industry, and that just so happens to be animation this entire episode savor the last segment. Explain that just a SEC, but the entire episode is going to be animated films, so the first film that I'm reviewing. Today is called a whisker away brand new NETFLIX's original film. The second film that I'm reviewing is fantastic. MR, Fox streaming right now on Disney plus a wes Anderson film, and finally my recommendation for the day his Kubo, and the two strings, a stop, motion animation, and then for my final segment. I figured that since is the first day of the month. We're halfway through the year that I would look forward to the rest of the year, so I'm going to be talking about the film industry at large. What are some of the biggest movie announcements biggest movie news what we can expect going forward as far as theaters, some of the newest releases And Yeah that's basically I want to give a movie debrief. Basically talk about the industry because that's always helpful and I think beneficial for context in the films. We Watch I. think that's always a fun thing to do so. That's the episode and I'm going to get right into it. All right so the first film today is called a whisker away. It is a new netflix original anime film straight out of Japan, so it is subtitled, which I found very fun to watch strect by Junichi Sato Tomotaka Shibayama Stars Mirai. She Die Not Sukey hand. It follows mio, who is an eccentric middle school student at A. Local festival, she a mask seller who gives her a cat mask that gives her the ability to turn to a cat whenever she dons it. She's also head over heels for one of her classmates. He no day. WHO doesn't pay much mind at school doesn't pay any attention, so she dons the cat mask after school and visits him every day after school. As a stray cat who he takes care of. So full disclosure. I want to be up front. Give you the context of how I wash this film? Whenever I whenever I? These reviews, just so everybody is clear. I fully intended to watch scooby today. But. So I planned this entire episode as an animated episode. That's what the intention was, and when I went to go. Look for. Because I hadn't seen it I wanted to catch out there so a lot of catching up to do for a lot of the covid nineteen th streaming digital release movies. It was twenty dollars that I did not have. Him So. I decided to try and find a different animated movie. So I looked it up, looked on all of the streaming services and came across this whisker away which I had never even heard of didn't know that it was coming out. Didn't know anything about it which I always find very very fun. That I had zero context didn't know the plot didn't look up the plot. And I was very happy. I was I'm very very happy with this movie. I thought it was very good. It was very cute. It is subtitled just so everybody knows. So I'm GonNa talk about in the beginning of this review sort of the cultural context as much as I can become aware of because there is a lot of. Things that I feel as though are lost in translation literally when talking about and watching movies from other countries I think we take for granted a lot of time at least we as in Americans so from a personal perspective, but if you're listening. If. You're listening to this from America. I think we take for granted a lot of times that the cultural context of the movies that we watch are all from the United States, so we kinda already know what's going on even if it's not explained in the plot of the movie, so. There are a lot of things that. Are Displayed in foreign films that we might not know and might be taken for granted for the creators and viewers there. So in particular for this one. There's a lot of aspects of theatre and folklore. That I. Don't know how much of it. Is Relevant nowadays to Japanese people, how much of it is in common? Vernacular guys that kind of thing, so it follows a mask seller in part who seems to be kind of a slide demon type character on definitely kind of trickster think. Sort of the snake type of archetype in American culture, or at least Western type cultures. And in any. Film about animals. From different countries, we don't know necessarily the context of what that animal represents in that country necessarily and so this one is all about cats. I did do a little bit of research. As much as I could. So in Japanese culture, there is a character called the Balki Nico. Who was a change cat? Basically a can kind of shape shift, and is more of a trickster demon type characters that seemed to be the most relevant to this film. As most of the plot centers around characters that can shape shift in particular cares. I can shape shift into cats. which I found very fascinating, the the. Masks come from a no theater, which is one of the oldest still currently performed types of theater, a dance style theater in particular where lots of masks are used end, so that seemed to be an inspiration for the film, which I found very fascinating. As far as watching in subtitles and things like that I always in a little bit skeptical to review the dialogue screenplay Because in most Foreign films particularly films from Asia. There doesn't seem to be a lot of subtlety in the dialogue, and I think that just comes from I just think that is literally lost in translation, so it's a lot of a lot of the translations I think. Become a lot more simplistic. A lot more Dole down for American audiences because some of the nuances in the language that are words that we might not even necessarily or things that we don't necessarily know. What they mean as far as in terms of like that culture goes so I. Try not to review the. Dialogue because it always seems a little more simplistic and I don't think is. Necessarily the case all the time. I mean you can even look at the title of the film, which in America is a whisker away, but supposedly if it's translated literally, it's called wanting to cry pretend to be a cat, which is a phenomenal Taito mind you and even that is probably a little bit lost in translation so i? Do Love watching films with subtitles I would recommend that people watch with subtitles I know it's a little bit much to be like all right. I'm watching moving Emma scaping, but I also got to read. I find it fun because. I feel as though a lot less distracted when I'm watching films. subtitled because usually when I'm watching a film my mind can wander like anything else, but if my mind is solely focused on reading, the subtitles understand what's going on I. Actually I'm a lot more attentive to the movie, which is really Nice so i. do recommend doing that I also think that there's a level of hearing. Words spoken in their language and how? Certain actors will use inflection in particular it's it's usually different for different countries. As far as what is the the style to go for so? Hearing the inflections and what those words mean in that language I think also helps the understanding of the film in a little bit more of a nuanced way, so that's always really nice. So yeah. I'm not very familiar with anime films I I'm not I am not a big anime fan I've never. I didn't really grow up with Studio Ghibli, or any sort of. Animated Television shows when I was younger, so it's not necessarily an art style or narrative style that I latched onto i. have tried to watch more in recent years because they've gained popularity with certain movies. Your name, being a pretty big example in the states. I have noticed that there are certain tropes in anime films at least the ones that I have watched i. have particularly watched a lot of. Drama Romance Movies. So. Maybe this is just a staple of that part of the genre. But I have noticed a level of melodrama in a lot of these films, which I think is really fun I think it's an added element to the film that I do really enjoy knowing that going in I think there is also one thing I noticed with this film in particular as well. Is a lot of the score tends to be acoustic as opposed to symphonic, so a lot of scores in the United States is a lot more of a symphony orchestra orchestral type. Score sound to the movie particularly blockbuster films. And in anime films Japanese films that I've seen a lot of them are acoustic, so piano based guitar based. Even sometimes they'll be a softer pop song in the film. Which I think is really fun. that adds to the level of Melodramas with things feel very very dramatic, very very intense. And in this film in particular, it very very much enhances it. I think it works fantastic here. Because the entire film about teenagers and Teen Angst. Which seeps through this film is steeped in Teen Angst and the use of the score, and the use of the intense voice acting and the dramatic elements of the story enhance. All of the character relationships going on which I think is very very cool. Because the character relationships seem to be the most important aspect of this film. So on the surface, the movie is about magic and folklore and love. But I really think that the film doesn't actually tell you what the bigger themes that are going on are there are moments where characters will say what they're feeling? do chalk that up a lot to the intricacies of the script that we might not be getting given the translations. But while the film is primarily a movie about the relationship and romantic relation particular about with him day and Mio I do think that the the film at large as more about the relationships that we have with everyone in our lives and the miscommunication we might have. The insecurities might have not being able to say what we mean, so mio has a relationship with her stepmother and her father. That is very specific and intricate. Mio has one with his mother and his grandfather. They all have with each other students and I do think there is a level of teenagehood that involves. Pettiness and not wanting to say what you mean and interpreting things that should not be interpreted at all so i. think that that really adds to the story creates for some very very good comedy, some very very fun, lighthearted moments, but also some very emotional moments some impactful particularly towards the middle of the film. I found myself. Within the is an hour. Hour and forty five minutes, and the first forty five minutes I was like cool. Where at the climax? And we were basically just one third of the way to the movies, so the film does have a very distinct structure. It's split into three acts in each of those acts have a very clear plotline, and each one is sort of. Capped off, you can either say I would say probably the beginning of each act. So the first minute of the film kind of the forty five minute mark, and then maybe the our ten mark, basically our ten hour twenty mark Have some very. Clear twists. And I had used the word twist because that's always like. I don't know it's a specific thing that's used in film a lot to divert expectations, but it's just a very clear distinct narrative choice that's being used in those parts that I found very very fascinating and pretty unexpected, ultimately particularly the one at the end of to beginning of act three. So the structure is great, and it creates a very wonderful mystery, the film is kind of all a mystery, and that also lends itself to the blend of genres that I found very apparent in the film. There is comedy drama there is. An kind of an action ask scene definitely a chase scene, and then the whole film is kind of a mystery. So blend genres really well. It also blends plots really well, so the plot. There's a lot of plotlines going on, but all the plotlines are very balanced. There's a lot of characters. Pretty much. You only really need to keep track of me. And he no day to understand what's going on and the mask seller is kind of the antagonists of the film. But there is also friends of me Oh. The the mother, and the grandfather of day, and the stepmother and father of Mio There are teachers and students believe so. There's a lot going on and. He has a sister as well and they all have pretty distinct plots going on that are balanced, really well, obviously mio and he not get the most amount of time given to them, which is very important, the entire filming centric around them, but there are some very. DISTINCT, character moments for everybody else that I think is balanced very very well. With the fact that most of the characters are teens like I said it is very much steeped in teen angst, but I think that that makes way for a lot of the larger themes that are being shown so. Movies about insecurity and being yourself. which tends to be a lot of the films that reviewing a pretty pretty good message. It's really about honesty and communication, and all of these new relationships that you might have and how those relationships can change, and why they maybe should change for the better and taking accountability in your in your self for those relationships, just as much as the the other participants in that relationship. So I found that to be very very interesting. A lot of the character dialogue is pretty simplistic, but again I think that is because of the. Subtitles in the translation. It's pretty a goofy of a movie to. It's very over the top very kind of Kabuki inspired, which is a another type of Japanese theater that relies on masks and movement and little dialogue to very expressive and a lot of films. Even the United States I think are inspired by that type of theater, and so this one is pretty goofy pretty over the top particularly with magic. But because of the fact that it's about animals and magic I do think that that works really well. Some parts for me might have been a little bit too melodramatic, but I think if you know that going in and understand the cultural context behind it, it adds to the film, so there might be a few moments that I was like. Okay. Maybe maybe shouldn't have done that there. Maybe a little bit silly, but I do think overall. It worked very well. There are some really. Some really great physical comedy, which I liked in the visuals Very clumsy and sloppy in ways that don't feel forced, and they feel very natural for humans to be doing. It's just sort of like that's how people are. They'll hit their head on things. which I thought was very cool and talking about the visuals of the film. All of these three reviews. are going to in capsule or, incorporate. Animation into it, because clearly, that's something that has got to be said. When talking about animation, so the animation in this is gorgeous. Obviously, a lot of anime films are, but I think there was a pretty distinct style to me. For this film because anime. Films tend to be at least to me. Somebody who watch the genre of that much I think this is definitely an over. Generalization is sort of the same like the art style is obviously very similar intentionally, but the. Complexities of the drawing, and even to sort of the flatness of the lines are sharpness of the line seemed to be very similar, but this one felt very distinct. All of the characters are pretty are drawn ray simplistically. They're not very complex. which seems to be very different from a lot of anime films? They're almost flat. But. That isn't a bad thing. I think it works really well here. They're very distinct. They're soft simplistic. The CGI composites of the background, so that's a pretty common tactic used. In animated films now is to make the backgrounds be. Computer generated as opposed to hand-drawn on the computer and so that. has been going on ever since the nineties and. Sometimes it can feel out of place because the characters are more hands on the backgrounds are CGI composites and. That's usually done. Because it's faster, it's easier. and. It looks just as good if not better. But some of the clash and I think that in this one in particular, the distinctness of The characters versus the backgrounds, and how simplistic the characters are at how complex the backgrounds are or even photo realistic. The backgrounds are actually think it blends really nicely. And that's usually because of the natural environment that's used with greenery and leaves and water and rain, and so all of it flows very nicely for me. The framing. is very intentional and very creative, really creative shots that I was not expecting. The use of split screen every now and then montage. There are some beautiful shots just in general with how characters are placed in the scene. The colors pop very very well. If anything with the framing I. Think sometimes the geography of scenes is not very well established so the geography of the town. Doesn't need to be established because there's distinct locations of. Kind a two houses and a school, but there there's a scene particularly in the end of the film There's a more natural landscape where with a chasing that I don't think. The geography is kind of explained or shown as well as it could be. A very small grape, ultimately because they did really like this film, I thought it was very cute. I came out smiling. The make sure you watch through the credits because there's a little epilogue in the credits that I really enjoyed. The music is wonderful. The voice acting is very intense and very very fun to listen to so I would highly recommend this movie I think it is good for the entire family I think it is fun. It is exciting. It is adorable. It is a great love story And it captures teenagehood and middle school high school age very very well, so I'm GonNa. Give this film A. Soft to solid eight out of ten. I really enjoyed it I thought it was a really fun to watch, and so I can recommend this film to you guys I. Hope you check it out. It's brand new streaming Netflix for free right now. So that's a whisker away. Stay tuned for the rest of the episode where I talk about fantastic Mr. Fox Kubo in the two strings and the rest of the film industry, but for right now we're GonNa take a quick break. Wants to know the latest and hottest music hidden the airwaves. Be Left out listen to the golden state media concepts music podcasts. Beyond loop with everything you need from pop rock hiphop top flooring and we'll throw in news of your favorite artists, concert and tour dates, and so much more. Further because this is the gold standard in music podcasts. Welcome back to the GS MC movie podcast I'm your host Casey bomb. If you're just tuning in or skipping around a little bit I have given my review of a whisker away I am now going to give a review on fantastic. Mr, Fox and then I'll be giving my review. Kuow in the two strings and make sure you stay tuned until the very end of the episode where I talk about the movie industry at large. So fantastic Mr. Fox is streaming right now on Disney, plus it is a film directed by Wes Anderson, starring George, Clooney Meryl Streep and Jason Schwartzman based on the rule doll book it follows. Mr Fox who's living a happy life with his family, but cannot resist the allure of his rating and burglary days, but has to protect his family and the local animal community when the farmers that he steals from fight back. So I was very excited to watch this film, it came out in two thousand nine. This is not a rewatch for me. I had never seen it before. This is my weekly watch. But it was streaming on Disney plus. So free which was nice and I'm a big. I wouldn't call myself a big Anderson I. AM definitely a wes, Anderson Fan but I am a bigger stop motion fan, and I was very big fan of his film. I love dogs from a couple years ago, which was also a stop motion animated film? So I was excited to watch this and I do think that my expectations played into this because I. didn't like it as much as I wanted to. This is a lot of people's favorite. Animated Film is very different unique animated film from a lot of the animated movies, coming out currently and coming out back in two, thousand, nine, two, thousand ten. So. My personal opinion is that it wasn't necessarily my favorite and I will explain why, but I will also explain some of the good things from this film, so we'll start with the animation in particular. The animation is gorgeous. I'm going to be saying that for all three of the movies this week, but The animation in this film stop motion I love. I think it's a little bit of a lost art form, because it is so time intensive and so intricate and the amount you can do on a computer nowadays is miraculous and so. A lot of stop motion kind of lost has has been lost in the mainstream, and so I'm very happy that it was stop motion animated and the type of animation that is used here really plays into the. Characters with the slowness of their movements, and the specificity of all of the characters faces and body movements I thought was very fascinating to see and definitely lended itself to the story. Was Andersen obviously has a very specific style synonymous with symmetry and colors and the specifics of his framing. But his style is very well suited for animation. In fact I would probably say it's perfectly suited for animation because animation in Italy, draws attention to itself, because of the fact that the medium is different than we might be seeing real life, and that is a style that West Anderson chooses to implement as well. All of his films draw attention to the style very specifically, and I think that is a very. Fascinating way to tell a movie And so, What's interesting does that very well? All of his films are based in reality. Definitely have whimsical elements that the style I think lends itself to. So animation in particular wes Anderson ever since fantastic Mr. Vox has been implementing into all of his films with. Three D. models and moments of kind of action. I'm grand. Budapest hotel in particular has a lot of moments like that, but. Animation is a very wonderful tool for filmmakers to us and I think west. Anderson is somebody who uses it very very well. Particularly, stop motion which I really like and like I said I think the style serves the substance very well so I talked last week about how there's usually a. Little bit of a battle between style and substance that they are either mutually exclusive, or one is better than the other I. think that Wes. Anderson is a prime example of how to use them well together. So that his style is so specific and so unique that you can't help, but notice it, and so the substance of the movie also plays into that as well. A lot of his films have very adult themes themes, but that themes that are very well spelled out on an pretty clearly stated throughout the. Actions of the film, so obviously they're not said necessarily by any of the characters, but common rule of storytelling show. Don't tell. Is that West Anderson uses. Pretty Darn well and so his style is something that feels like it's out of a story book sometimes and so the. Themes in all of his films. Also are kind of like that where they are specific and spelled out and clear, which is very much like a fable or a storybook, which is also a common theme for the day. All of the movies that I'm GonNa that I've have talked about, and we'll be talking. About are rooted in. Fable folklore type things I. think that's something that Wes Anderson. Intentionally does so in this film. There's a lot of adult themes that are. Sh- not sugar coated. Wrapped in this childlike wonder. And so it's a film that was primarily marketed towards kids, but is a common debate as to whether it is even really a kids movie, and can be treated as such I would probably. Be More towards that. It's almost more of a an adult movie than a kid movie, but that's just me, so a lot of the heart and deeper themes of the film have to deal with addiction and inadequacy and independence. Something that is shown throughout the film with Mr Fox as far as the independence that he needs to have from his family which kind of manifests itself in his addiction towards. Stealing and Stealing and burglary, so his son also exemplifies that in. The fact that he feels inadequate and needs to assert his independence so that he can. Feel more accepted and. Adequate and happy with himself. So a lot of these moments are pretty serious. And the film is super silly from the get go, and so a lot of these serious sadder moments I think come out of nowhere are very abrupt. They might be hinted at for a lot of the film as far as the character motivations go, but the actual moments in which they happen are. Pretty out of the blue pretty abrupt which. Very well could be could have been intentional. These things are jarring. Talk about and so making them jarring for the viewer I. Think is very effective, but it didn't. Work in a narrative sense for me. I think in a moral thematic sense. It is a very effective tool to be using to throw it in the face of the viewer. Almost randomly. It's just not something that I vibe with necessarily. As, far as the characters go, I had initially thought in Washington that the characters. Were in very well fleshed out very well. Delved into. But upon closer examination, they are actually very distinct characters. They are just not very likable. And, that is something that is used in film very often as to whether a character should be likable regardless of whether the protagonist, but I didn't find any of the characters in this film necessarily likable. They all have pretty distinct flaws that although. They reference and they talk about changing. Towards the end of the film like any good character. There isn't very much evidence of that being the case both in moments prior to when a new normal quote unquote is established. or at the end of the film so. The movie itself with the style and the story is more charming than the characters. I'm always somebody that. latches onto characters more than anything else I. think that is the most important part of a story, and so the characters here are fairly unlikeable Not, as interesting as they could be, and so I think the movie with its again with style and story is. The most interesting, most exciting likable thing about the film itself which is a good thing, so if that's something that you latch onto more than characters, I would say that you would probably like this movie better than I did So that's just a personal opinion as far as the characters go, but I do think that the movies. A little bit better than the characters are. The making itself talking the characters. The voice acting is excellent with any West Anderson Film. There is a huge slew of voice. Actors so in this one we got. George Clooney, Meryl Streep Jason Schwartzman Bill Murray Owen Wilson That's just the name of very select few. Wes Anderson himself even as in this movie, so the voice acting is obviously going to be. Great. The filmmaking and the directing actually played a part in that as well because a lot of the filming four, the voice acting was done outside of a studio on site whether it be in the environment that the are supposed to be in or a makeshift version of that environment, so a lot of it was kind of done. On the fly type thing where it's not as rehearsed in a studio, but it's more. In on par with live action, filmmaking, which I found very unique and very original and definitely. Shows in the voice acting a lot of the voice acting is also very dry on purpose. That's a lot of the comedy that was ended and likes to play into so I think that works very well. I would have wanted to hear a lot more from Meryl Streep Actually Having such a seasoned actress in the movie and she doesn't play nearly as larger role as I would have liked. She definitely has a very. A shining moment toward the middle end of the film, but I would have wanted to hear a lot more from her sooner. The script is fun. like I said I liked the script a little better than I like the characters in the script, so the the dialogue and the story beats as opposed to the actual characterizations of. Each character in particular. I thought the comedy works very well. It's laugh out loud funny. There is A. The. Any curse word that would be used in the film because it's a kids. Movie is replaced with the word costs which I find. Hilarious I think that is very clever. That was my favorite part of the movie. That's my shining. That's my standing moment from the movie. The use of cussing which I think is fun. Looking at animation as cinematography is something that is. Somewhat disputed it's hard to UH. You're not necessarily using a camera all the time, but in stop motion in particular you are using a camera a lot of the time, so I think the cinematography is gorgeous. There's a huge emphasis on lighting something that. Makes up. Seventy percent of shot. That's the thing that I learned in my cinematography class that it's. Not all camera, a most of it, in fact is about lighting and so wes. Anderson puts a huge emphasis on that particular. There are some very unique moments. Scenes with? Darker lighting and bright in color, brighter colors of vice versa. There's a scene with lightning an electrician. Very. Fascinating from a filmmaking standpoint. So the shots, obviously because of the lighting are beautiful. There's a scene by a waterfall which is probably one of the more famous scenes from the film which is breathtaking I. Honestly don't know. How they made it look so good. And so those are my. Thoughts on fantastic Mr. Fox I thought a little bit was I thought it was awkward, but not necessarily in the most charming sense the characters, so it was a little bit underwhelming for me I. Think part of that was because I had very high expectations. Given that I'm Sanderson. Fan I'm a stop motion fan. A lot of my friends liked it a lot, so if any of the things that I said, stand out to you as something that you enjoy, I would say I. Recommend it I also. Just I would say that I recommended in general. I. THINK IT IS A. Movie that will have a lot of specific opinions on. Don't necessarily take my word for it. I also think that you should support animation as much as possible. And Wes Anderson is a very unique voice in the film making industry so I. Think was fantastic Mr Fox. Is a pretty hardy recommendation, but for me I would give it about a soft six. So that's my review on fantastic Mr Fox next up is my review on Kubo in the two strings and make sure you stay tuned until the very end where I talk about the movie industry at large and give some. Of the biggest movie, news and announcements, but right now we're going to take another quick break. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen closely and hear this out. 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The movie industry at large. So right now is Cuba in the two strings starring Charlotte, Aaron and Matthew mcconaughey. It follows a young boy named Kubo, who has the power to bring paper to life and tell Origami stories, but after the death of his father and his mother, he has to go in a magical quest with a monkey and a beetle to find his father's indestructible armor, and defeat a slew vengeful spirits, including the moon king, the spirit that is plaguing his local village. So I love this film I watched this film in theaters. It is produced by a studio called Leica, which is one of my favorite studios. Currently working at is the only. full-time major mainstream. Stop Motion Animation Studio so this entire film stop motion much like fantastic. Mr Fox there are a few elements of CGI INC throughout, but that is. Mostly just to enhance. The Stop motion because there is. An, insane amount of time and patience that it takes to make a film like this, and like a is the prime example of it. You might know them from films, core line and pair norman or the missing link. Most recently. In this film in particular they have. Puppetry that is sixteen feet tall. There's a skeleton in this film that is sixteen feet tall. also an eyeball that I think is around ten or eleven feet. That has that has computer movements in the middle of the so it makes it easier to move around during the scene itself, so there is a very large amount of time taken for these films and it shows this film had been being worked on for five years. It is directed by Travis Knight. Who is the CEO of Leica at the time? So the absolute care that is taken for this film is honestly inspirational. You can tell a lot of the time that was taken for this film. Because of the influence of it is obviously based in Japanese folklore. Much like a whisker away, but it is an American film directed by an American filmmaker, so there isn't as much of the cultural context that you might have missed in a whisker away if you're not from Japan or Japanese and so. Most of what is shown culturally is done in a more research based way as far as I can tell. But there are still a lot of culturally significant elements in this film Origami. Being one of them, and what is very cool, is that a lot of the animation styles take inspiration from the art styles of Japan, so all of the film is. Done in stop motion and to make paper in stop motion is very difficult. You can't necessarily make Origami in stop. Motion given the. The the way a paper crinkles and isn't as malleable as play or. Styrofoam might be so the filmmakers actually used tie back the type that you see on new houses to make. Realistic looking paper, they can still be malleable like a lot of the other characters in the film which I found. Very very cool. All of the art all of the costuming. Takes inspiration from Japanese culture, which is completely necessary when telling a story like this, but I think the research. The filmmakers did was very useful in enhancing the story at large. The story itself is told like a fable told like a Japanese fairy tale. Unlike a whisker away, that has a much more traditional three act structure. Most stories have a three act structure so the first act being set up second act, being conflict third act being payoff. And so a whisker away follows the traditional film story, whereas this film follows a much more fable like story, where there is monsters that one must encounter, and you can still definitely hear it to a three act structure, but it is much more about the journey, and that is something that is emphasized in a lot of stories like this. It rewards viewers for paying attention at the beginning of the film. That is a very significant motif. I believe it's the first line of the film Make sure you pay attention. And every aspect of the film rewards of you're four paying attention in a lot of the payoff, which I very very nice. There are some moments in the film that. Could be criticized for being cliche With a lot of the themes of love and community that might be used or exhausted, but with the creativity of the storytelling and the. Weaving of characters and the relationship between these characters, and also the changing elements in potentially even appearance of these characters. Makes these cliches a lot more effective and obviously cliches happen for a reason they are. Time and time again some of the most effective storytelling themes and morals, and so telling them in a more creative way with the Stop motion and the Japanese style I think is. Awesome from a filmmaking standpoint, the cinematography and the animation of the film is. Once again, obviously gorgeous, one of the most interesting elements of it being the framing, and so every almost every shot. Has a pretty distinct background, whether it be the CGI background of the environment or most specifically I'm talking about backgrounds that have creatures or other people characters. There's so much going on in the background that. Honestly encourages viewers to look around at what's happening which from a film that it takes so long to animate even the main character putting that much time and attention into background characters to make it that much more of an enjoyable experience for viewers is something that is. Absolutely commendable for the filmmakers, the colors of the film I think are also something that stands out pretty distinctly. A lot of animated films have a distinct color. Palette Kubo doesn't necessarily have that distinct color Palette is. It's just very colorful. There are moments of darkness with the themes of the moon and the spirits that. Are Involved with that. Too. There are darker bluer scenes of the film. But it's just a much more natural aesthetic with every color in the rainbow. Being shown is a very bright visually stunning film to look at. That also coincides with the design of the characters pretty much. Every character has distinct color Palette as well as a distinct look, so all of the characters are inspired by Japanese clothing or Japanese paintings, and then the animal characters of the film have pretty distinct looks that are necessary to making a visually interesting film. leica loves to do this thing where they make characters that are absolutely nightmare. Inducing terrifying. They had gotten a lot of buzz. In two thousand and five for Choline, which I watched when I was probably about eight or nine and it. Scared the hell out of me, it is terrifying, and a lot of that happens to be with their creature designs and particularly the. Eyeballs in the ocean and the skeleton are pretty darn scary, so this film. Is Kid friendly and it is four children. I hesitate to use that because not only for children but. It is pretty scary, so make sure that if you have young kids, you know their boundaries before watching it with them, so you don't give them nightmares or scar them. But this film is a lot of like films, don't necessarily lend itself to being just a kids film. They are very mature whether it be with the creature designs, but particularly for Kubo. It has to do a lot with the. Story beats and the themes that go on, and so this one in particular deals a lot with loss of an endings so. Endings a clear Motif that is shown at actually said throughout that every story needs an ending and so. Loss is something that is. That permeates throughout this film it is. Something that Kubo has to deal with time and time again and so having. A character that can get through loss in an effective way and come out still being caring and loving and meeting every opportunity that he has with love and acceptance is really inspiring to show two young kids and something that is inspiring for adults to be watching as well it is. A movie about growing up? Not Necessarily Movie About Adolescence, a movie that is. All about the loss of innocence and moving away from your parents know that I'm kind of viewing this with a more of a college mentality So moving away from your parents, and learning how to be independent with those around you, and so, that's something that is shown throughout the film. And a theme that is pretty necessary to be showing in films at large. So with a lot of my weekly recommendations, it is very difficult to be objective, but those are all of the story. Film elements that make the movie so good but I really connected with this film with all of its themes and morals. The animation is gorgeous. something that I also found very very cool. That I didn't necessarily know until recently is that. Cool in the two strings has a very fascinating. Is a fascinating name as title of the film because a Shami San, which is the type of Guitar Type Instrument. It's reminiscent of Guitar Banjo. From Japan is what Kubo uses to create his origami sculptures and creatures, but Shami San Traditionally has three strings as opposed to strings, but throughout the film. Kubo uses. The hair from his mother and the bow string from his father's. Armor and gear. So those are two strings, and he also used his own hair. which is Kubo, so it's Kubo and the two strings, and he is one of the strings, and it shows the elephants of. Family relationships in. Understanding your own identity, which I find beautiful I think it is a wonderful title for a film, So I love this movie. I think it is fantastic. It is my weekly recommendation for animation. It's kind of a mix of PHANTASM MR, Fox, and a whisker away with the Japanese culture, and the Stop motion so I'm GonNa give this movie a solid nine out of ten I. highly recommend it. You can watch it. You can stream it. For Rent on Amazon or any other place that you watch movies. So, that's my recommendation. And now he gets to talk about the movie industry which I'm very excited about, but right before we do that. Stay tuned but we're GONNA. Take a quick break. Watching TV has changed over time. Streaming has become the new norm. That's why golden state media concepts television podcast dives, had I to the world court, cutting to be on the lube of what's hot net foot, or if it's not a preference, what about original shows in Hulu? We've got you covered. Join us as we fill the blank and talk about movies to stream, and what show you should be vigilant. This is golden state media concepts television podcast. Like to make an even larger franchise outside of Jack Sparrow, this is something that had come about after the. Scandals scandals with amber heard and Johnny. Depp so Disney had originally detached themselves from Johnny Depp certain allegations, but given that newer evidence has come to light. Johnny Depp might be back in the picture. Disney hasn't said anything but this film regardless probably not going to center around Jack Sparrow. It would more consists of him in a cameo type role. So Margot Robbie seems to be taking a more lead role in the Caribbean to create a larger universe type franchise, something that everybody is obsessed with nowadays, and in fact there is a character that had been implemented on the parts of the Caribbean ride a couple years ago called read. A lot of speculation is that Mugabe will be playing that character as the lead pirate to keep the franchise going so there's no major announcement as to what character she'll be playing, but she is definitely attached to fire to the Caribbean and is definitely interesting to see where that franchise is going. Some more specific specific movie news. Michael. Keaton is back as Batman in a limited sense so DC I believe. I know that I talked about this. With my birds of prey, review has been trying. And For interpretation how well they're doing to create the cinematic universe as well. One of the things that they had wanted to do was create a flash movie around Ezra. Miller, who has since backed out of the role? And it was going to originally be directed by Rick Yuga who directed dope and he also had of the project so this flash movie has been on the road for a long time, but apparently it is still happening, and it is supposed to center around the comic storyline of flashpoint, and for those of you who don't know what the comic storyline of flashpoint in is. It basically centers around Barry Allen. Who is the flash and he runs. So fast back in time that he creates a parallel timeline of brand new time line where. Everything is different wonder woman and Aquaman are at war. Batman is now. Bruce Wayne's father Thomas Wayne because Bruce Wayne had been murdered as opposed to Thomas and Martha Wayne where Martha Wayne becomes so distraught at her son's death that she becomes the joker, so there are some very cool. Story lines that go on in this. I think it is. It is very popular comic comic that I definitely enjoy, and that is something that they were trying to bring onto screen which. had been hinted at in Batman v Superman with one of the flashes cameos in that film. But if you know anything about the route, the DC has taken with their films. It's definitely an interesting. Movie to put onto screen. Because of the fact that it follows parallel timelines, you can do a lot of things with the films that DC isn't putting out that don't necessarily exist in the same world or the same timeline something that had been. Popularizing comics a long time ago, and brought to the forefront in Spiderman into the spider verse that parallel timelines can potentially be done pretty effectively now the EU is moving towards that direction as well so that's going to be looking out for not only shared universes, but shared universes with multiple parallel timelines and different versions of the character, but the reason it's fascinating because you can have those little timelines Michael. Keaton is going to be coming back as Batman and dawning the Cape and Cowl so in the comic Thomas Wayne is Batman. who had initially been played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan from the walking dead series in Batman V, Superman and justice, League. But given that Michael. Keaton is now confirmed to be playing. The role I have to speculate that they're going to be different timelines and Thomas. Martha Wayne is going to be one given that Jeffrey Dean. Morgan is a pretty popular actor as well and would be a very interesting batman choice, and so flash might be going to an even different. Timeline with Michael Keaton, and so that's some minor speculation on my part, but something that seems to. The DC universe seems to be leaning towards for sure. In other specific news, the most fascinating. News that I have found centers around a new NETFLIX's film called Nola Homes, starring Millie Bobby Brown from stranger things. It is based on a book series that follows, Sherlock Holmes younger sister is current. The film itself is currently being sued by the. Doyle estate so I find this very fascinating because I'm pretty fascinated in copyright, law and copyrights in film. So some of you may know this, but. Copyright and public domain has been at the center of creative pieces for a very long time. Ever since these laws were created. Creative properties could go into the public domain after a certain amount of time, or after my time after the artist's death. That's why we see a lot of iterations of the same stories sherlock. Holmes be one of them so any film. Story adaptation of any creative property. From something before the nineteen twenties is probably in the public domain. That's how Disney made a lot of their money. In the first place, most of their stories are Grimm's fairy tales that is has been in the public domain for a very long time. So that's that you don't have to use or you don't pay any money to use those stories and to create new iterations. But the reason I find this fascinating in terms of film, because after Disney made a lot of those movies from the public domain, they lobbied Congress for a very long time, specifically in America to not let anything go into the public domain that has been happening ever since the nineteen fifties about for the that lobbying, and then that law got extended in one, thousand, nine, hundred ninety s, and so right now in the united. States things are starting to go into the public domain for the first time, which is fantastic in my mind. I think that is a great storytelling tool. So in the United States any story created before Nineteen twenty-three is in the public domain, but anything after nineteen twenty-three is not there are definitely exceptions to that rule, a certain recordings of songs verses the actual sheet music, certain songs, and there are definitely some books that are still not in copyright given certain artists, recommendations or requests, but most things were nineteen, twenty three are in the public domain and sherlock. Holmes is one of them. Almost all of Arthur CONAN doyle's sherlock holmes stories in the public domain. There are A. There about ten Sherlock Holmes books that were written from Nineteen, twenty, three to nineteen, twenty seven, so the Doyle Estate carnally owns those books, and so what I found in doing research on the lawsuit happening right now, so the Nola Holmes books. Are Protected under public domain, so the author can write those books based on Sherlock Holmes in general but. In the Sherlock Holmes Books Post Nineteen twenty-three. The doyle estate has argued that the character Sherlock Holmes is a much more sympathetic and emotional caring character after the death of some of his relatives in those stories, and so the ten they own the ten bucks, and they also own the version of the character that is kinder, more emotional, more caring. And they are making the argument that in the Enola Holmes movie. The Sherlock Holmes. Character played by Henry Cavill is much more caring and charming and more reminiscent of the books that they own. So, it's a really fascinating lawsuit. It does seem to me like a way for the state to get some more money. It doesn't seem like there is a huge foundation I. Don't know all of the evidence in these. In this lawsuit, but I thought it was a very fascinating. To be sharing and a cool added context to that movie itself that I'm hopefully going to be reviewing in the future. So now moving onto the film industry. It's definitely hard to know what's going to happen. Movie theaters are still closed. They've been closed for a very long time. There are some of the last businesses to reopen. Among the restrictions being lifted and I think that it's hard for a lot of consumers to wrap their head around going into a smaller space for two hours with a bunch of strangers breathing the same air, so it's hard to know what the future of the movie industry is going to look like the one thing that we do know is that movie? Theaters are going to be opening back up in mid July, for certain as of right now AMC being the front. Front runner. They are the largest movie theater chain. They have announced that most of their theaters are going to be re opening July fifteenth with the rest of their movie theaters opening a week later they are currently only allowing thirty percent capacity, which is significantly lower than a lot of other businesses that are opening back up at about fifty percent, but it is definitely a good thing that they're opening only at thirty percent capacity. Most other movie theaters are following suit opening mid July. So any movie through those near, you is most likely opening. Mid July the problem with the openings. Is that not a lot of movies are coming out so there are so most movie theaters closed. At the beginning of the summer blockbuster season so nowadays the summer blockbuster season starts at about March. It continuously gets pushed back. It definitely makes its. Biggest claims in May and June, but there are some early blockbusters that gets shown in March most notably. This year were was Milan. And that got pushed back, so any film that was going to open in theaters has been pushed back. A lot of them were added to streaming services, trolls, world tour scuba like I said earlier in this episode. But a lot of the movies that had been pushed back are being pushed back even further to later this year or even twenty twenty one. So a lot of these movies are opening up, but they don't necessarily have anything to show the. Film that I can find July twenty four th, and that is Milan. Christopher newest outing tenant has also been pushed back. It had been pushed back from mid July to July thirty first, and it is now at August twelfth, so there is no certainty as to win. That is getting released. I know that Christopher Nolan is a filmmaker who probably won't want his film streaming services, because while streaming services are effective in giving a wider audience, the film there are a lot of movies that are made for the theaters and made for a larger spectacle. Bigger visuals larger than life sound, and so there are a lot of films and filmmakers that are reluctant to go straight to streaming. Seeing the success though of trolls, world tour, making around one hundred million dollars at home. It's hard to know what the future of movie theaters look like. There's definitely going to be an added element of more films coming to streaming services, knowing that they can make that money, or at least coming to rent. I think there is the element of. Quarantine that there weren't a lot of new movies coming out, so that might have added to the success of trolls world tour, but that is obviously speculative hard to know. But movie theaters are definitely not going away at least not soon as far as I can tell with them opening backup. It's hard to know how long they'll stay open. How long they'll stay at thirty percent capacity. What movies will be coming out then, but I would like to do within the next couple of weeks. A segment on what we can look forward to as far as films go for the rest of the year and major wide releases. So. That's a lot of the movie news. Those are some of the movie announcements. Hope that you enjoyed this segment. I hope you enjoyed this episode. If you do intend on going to the movies, make sure that you are staying safe in wearing a mask. Keeping your distance. I'm going to try my best to go see some of those movies. I'm still trying my best. Stay safe and stay inside but I. do know that I want to see some of those movies that I want to review those movies for you, so I will be. At some of these theaters reopenings. But staying safe and wearing a mask, so please be safe. Be Kind I hope that you enjoyed this episode. And thank you for listening to the GMC movie podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. 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100 - Keep Going

Secular Buddhism

30:00 min | 1 year ago

100 - Keep Going

"Hello and welcome to another episode of the secular buddhism podcast. This is episode number. One hundred i am your host noah rochetta and today. I'm talking about the buddhist teaching of keep going keep in mind. You don't need to use what you learn from buddhism to be a buddhist can use it to be a better whatever you already are as i record this episode episode one hundred at the podcast podcast a feeling a lot of gratitude for all of you who listen to the podcast. You're one of the reasons i enjoy having a podcast is that it allows me me to share my thoughts in an open and public way that allows people that i know and people that i love to get get a glimpse into the way that i see life the way that i understand reality and it's sad but it's true that in most of our ordinary day to day communications even those even with those that were closest to we rarely dig deep in our thoughts we communicate with each other <hes> usually on a superficial level <hes> sure it may happen from time to time that in the right circumstances <hes> we get into the deeper conversations about life and stuff but for the most part i think we spend a considerable amount of time just exchanging pleasantries and and superficial exchanges about what we've been up to and how things are going but we don't really dig deep then i get it. I mean most of our life would make people uncomfortable. If you were just ask the standard hey how're you doing. They responded with something like well. You know let's spend a few hours here at some very deep thoughts. I i need to get off my chest. You'd be like hold on. I'm backing away here. <hes> i get it. That's how we normally communicate but that's what i love about the podcast broadcasting it allows me to do just that i get to share some of my deepest thoughts and some <hes> and explore some of the topics and ideas that are most profound for me and i get to do this knowing that <hes> some of the most meaningful things for me are going to be <hes> heard heard or listened to by people that i know and people that i love at some point in the future or they might i should say <hes> i think about like my kids and and their kids and who knows how many others just from from that you know chain alone that might one day encounter these words and they might hear the words in sale cable. That's how my dad thought or that's you know that's how my grandpa used as the think about life or whatever and that's a fun one for me especially in the circum circumstances that i'm in with the various ideologies that are are expressed and viewed in my kids lives. It's fun for me to know that they will get to peek into my mind wind and listen in and hear <hes> about topics and learn about me in the way that i see the world so that's that's a fun one. I i do think it's a little strange to have to admit that <hes> some of the people who know me best who know how i view the world how i make sense of the world some of those people are you the ones listening to this podcast <hes> many of your total strangers to me <hes> i don't i've known you or anything about you and yet i feel a total connection to you because you do know me beyond that ordinary layer <hes> that honestly mesler many of my closest friends even closest family members only know me at that more superficial level they see what i post on social media media and the you know the exchanges that we have at that sunday family dinner those those are always the the more superficial pleasantries like talking about <hes> earlier but then there's this whole unique audience out there of those of us who've listened to to the podcast since the beginning who i feel you know me at a deeper level you understand a lot of the inner workings of my mind and that's kinda trippy to think about some of the people that i spend the most time with don't get me or understand me at that level and then there are a lot of people there the world who do based on the podcast numbers. It's actually a big. It's a big audience of total little strangers who who know me really well. That's that's fun to think about not my parents. They listened to the podcast and we we talk almost every day and it's been fun. This has opened up a channel to have a much more meaningful conversation about life other than the typical typical pleasantries like oh. How's life our the kids. You know <hes> we get to talk about deeper things because <hes> they listen to this podcast and i'm always expressing in some of these deeper thoughts <hes> same with my may twin brother. He doesn't necessarily listened to the podcast. I think he does from time to time but he and i have always he's had the deeper exchange <hes> when it comes to just talking about life <hes> so but other than than my parents and my twin brother i don't know many many others even in my close circles who i've ever even sat down to talk to about buddhism in general much less the deeper aspects so <hes> you know some of these concepts that i get into in the podcast and i think that's that's interesting because they don't really talk about these deep and meaningful things with uh-huh with others in my life but i i love knowing that all this info is out there and perhaps some day some of my closest friends may be than and my spouse. I've mentioned this before. She doesn't listen to the podcast. <hes> my cousin's other family members especially my own kids no one day all this information is out there and it's available and they'll be able to listen and engage with me <hes> without having to sit through the what may be awkward for them to sit with me and say hey. Let's talk about life that can be interesting. When someone doesn't share your same views news you typically don't wanna sit in explore it understand those views the case hyman if they won't understand me they can listen on their own terms and on on their own time to the podcast and they would understand a lot of us <hes> so in that sense recording this podcast is a lot like journaling but i'm doing it in public and i often think how cool it would be to be able to get inside of the mind of <hes> of people that i know and understand their the deepest views on their deepest ideas like my mic grandpa who i i didn't. I never really knew that well. He passed away when i was is young or or his parents or his brother. You know some random person that i'm connected to but i don't really know them. How cool would it be to be able to discover ever all of their journals in their deepest thoughts out there somewhere pundits for the n._f._l. Kind of what i'm doing so here i am celebrating celebrating episode number one hundred of the podcast and i'm in a position of being able to share my thoughts allowing others to have that glimpse glimpse deep into my mind and what do i wanna share while i wanna share the things that i'm sharing in the podcast today. I wanna talk about three three things. I want to say three things. I want to say <hes> again. This is a message to anyone listening in the future but perhaps especially to my own kids who might encounter this one day. I wanna say keep going ona say it used to the mumps and i wanna say heap beginner's genders mind so i wanna talk about each of those three things real quick heat going. This is a lesson that i i learned from my friend. Reverend kubo say who runs the bright on way of oneness buddhism which is where i trained <hes> doing the lay ministry program and through reading his books and the folks that his dad wrote i encountered this teaching this concept of keep going and it really resonated with me when i first heard at the the idea of keep it going is that <hes> as reverend kubo so i would say like we have the tendency of going and putting periods at the end of everything. That's what structures the the sentence the sentences over. Let's move onto the next one and and it helps it's useful but reality doesn't work that way you you get to where you think you're going and when you get there there you discover. There's no there there right because it's just here wherever you are that is here in that that same way the idea of keep going as a reminder that <hes> whatever you're expecting too when you think you're going to arrive at something you you don't you get there and then you keep going because the path itself is the goal right. This is a sentiment that's echoed over and over and in buddhist teachings that the path itself as the goal and <hes> when i think of the term of keep going. I'm thinking like you know the the day that i think i finally got it. <hes> the my reminders didn't keep going because everything's changing. The circumstances are changing time goes on everything changes. I'm changing <hes> and you don't ever get there so keep going is a reminder for me when when times are difficult keep going. They're going to change when times are good and you think i finally did it. Nope keep going. It's gonna change and the keep going the expression of keep going a reminder for me to due to not make them stake of thinking i've ever arrived because i'll never arrive. This journey experience of being alive goes on and on and on until until the journeys over even then then there's a lot of unknowing. I don't know what happens next. I don't know the infinite possibilities and it's fun to know that whatever it is. I'll just keep going so that's the first term i wanted to share the other. One is get used to the bumps and this is something. I really enjoy this as a term that we use. There's a term that we use them. Paragliding pair motoring <hes> that i really liking the term is bumped. Tolerance the idea is that as you as your experience and your skill increases of the sport your bump tolerances for instance increases too so when you're flying <hes> a paraglider or a pair motor you're flying around on this piece of fabric. That's essentially acting as a wing and you can really feel the bumps right bumpy air their smooth air <hes> when the when the day starts to heat up in the thermal activity pockets of areas where yet thermal activity you have air that's rising and next to the air that's rising. There's air that's sinking taking and as you go through these spots you hit what we would just call bumps and you're flying along and some flights are really nice and smooth and and others are bumpy and based on the conditions or the terrain or the time of day the bumpiness can be <hes> quite unpleasant and when when you start out and you're new and you're learning to fly in these pleasant circumstances it's always the nice smooth air that you're flying in and and then as time goes by you start to fly on your own and then you get out there and then you start hitting some bumps and you're like oh that's scary better land so what happens is with time with skill and experience <hes> your tolerance for these bumps also increases and i experienced this drastically glee in my in my flying career when i went from being a new student to <hes> decided i was going to be become a flight instructor instructor. I wanted to do everything that i could to become a safer more skilful pilot so i enrolled in a course. That's a safety fifty. It's called an s._i. Course but what it is. It's a course where you simulate incidents. That may happen in flight so you go up and you get. Did you get towed behind the boat. That's usually done over water and you and you have your main paraglider wing that you're flying under and then to reserve parachutes that you pack with you in what you do is you get up really high and you. You're on a radio with a flight instructor s._a._v._e. Avi instructor and they talk you through various emergency scenarios and and you'll do things like collapse half of your wing or let the full wing wing collapse and you learn to recover you learn the proper maneuvers and techniques to recover safely from these incidents that could happen in flight and i noticed after going to that course my bump tolerance level increased quite drastically because any little bump in your in your scared appeared that oh i don't want my wing to collapse but once you know how to handle a wing collapse and you realize you done it over and over and over one of these courses and you realize oh okay. I know how to recover from that. Will your tolerance naturally goes up so that's a concept that i like sharing <hes> about life in general liberal life gets bumpy and the problem isn't that life gets bumpy. The problem is that life gets bumpy and we don't like the bumps their employment for us and that's the nature of life it's bumpy and then it's smooth and then it's bumpy again and then it smooth again and the cycle goes on and on and on until one day the right is over the problems uh-huh that we believe that it's supposed to be smooth and we believe that it's not supposed to be bumpy and we spent so much time and energy in our lives trying to make smooth to ensure. They are things that we can do to make it more smooth but there's nothing we can do to prevent the bumpiness. Sometimes it's just the circumstances senses the terrain the time of day you know the causes and conditions arise for bumpy conditions to arise. That's just part of being alive. There will be days. It will be sick in bed. There will be days when you will be sad about something that someone said or did there will be days that you will feel deep sadness and sorrow because <hes> someone that you love has died. There will be days when you feel like you're in trouble days. When you feel lost lost the days when you feel like you're not on the right path and these are all normal art of bumpy days of life and there will also be smooth days days where everything this seems to be going your way days where you get the job that you wanted days where you're out driving and you're getting all the green lights <hes> days where you feel like everything is is enough and this is all part of the ride of being alive and you can enjoy the smooth days because you know that they won't always be smooth. Nouri time. I go flying if i hit a day where the air is just butter smooth. You just have a smile on my face because i know that i'm enjoying join something that's unique. It's not always that smooth in that nice so i try to enjoy it and we can do the same we smile on the bumpy days because they remind us <hes> to to enjoy those days where things are going smooth but here's the thing most of your growth just like with paragliding happens on the bumpy days you learn into handle those bumps and your skill increases your experience increases and that's what happens for us in our day to day practice with <hes> being mindful foale right. That's when you really get to know yourself as when you are in those bumpy conditions you begin to understand what you're truly capable of handling and you'll find strength and courage and knowing that you're capable of handling the bumps that will inevitably come your way and here's what i think is most important just like in in paradise your bump tolerance increases. What you're gaining is a deeper sense of confidence in yourself. Not confidence in the sky is going to be doing what i wanted to do that. My wing is going to be performing the the way that i needed to at the end of the day. It's a deeper your sense of confidence a confidence in my ability to handle whatever life is gonna throw my way. There's a quote or a story. I want to correlate this this to from buddhist teachings that comes from shanty data and the story is that there was a a man trying to cover the world in leather so that he could walk around comfortably there wouldn't have to worry about some of the sharp and prickly places on you know in the world and teaching was was that you'll never find enough leather to cover the world but you could find enough leather to cover the soles of your feet and then with with that now you can walk on all those jagged and sharp places and it's not the place that changed its your ability to walk on it because now you're wearing shoes and i really liked that. The quote from shanty davies unruly beans are as unlimited space. They cannot possibly all be overcome but if i overcome thoughts of anger alone this will be equivalent to vanquishing all foes. Where would i possibly find enough leather with which to cover the surface of the years but wearing leather just on the soles of my shoes is equivalent to covering the earth with it new goes on to say likewise. It is not possible for me to restrain drain the external course of things but should i- restrain this mind of mine. What would be the need to restrain all else. That's the quote from shanti data and i like that analogy you know wanting me wanting to make the world the skies smooth so that i can enjoy it when i go flying. My paraglider is a lot like me wanting to cover the world in leather so that i can walk around barefoot and not have to worry about what what i'm gonna be stepping on and scillies that sounds isn't that what we do we go around wanting to cover the world with leather. There's prickly person. Let me cover you and leather so so that i can be comfortable around you. Oh here's this controversial person. I better cover. You add leather so i can be comfortable when i'm around you when in reality <hes> this is what i love about buddhism in general it turns that focus back inward where where can i patch some leather. I keep brushing up against you. Let me put some leather here on this on this side of my arm announ. I brush up against your prickliness. It doesn't hurt me and you and you're allowed to remain prickly rather than me trying to change. You and i love that concept. You know i find myself at times like on facebook for example wanting to cover it and leather wanting to curate great the list get rid of the people who say things that i don't like. That's me wanting to cover it with leather and i get that too to some degree of course but again. I'm just picturing the going to the extreme. Here's me wanting to cover. Am i wanted to cover the world in leather for my comfort or can i spend time finding the letter that i need to cover my feet and i like that so that's the second one getting used to the bumps. The third thing i wanted to share i was keep a beginner's mind. This is a concept that i really really enjoy about buddhism. It's the permission that we have a to speculate into doubt to be ready to doubt throughout your life. You're going to be making a lot of choices choices about what to study study where to work. What kind of career where do i wanna live. Who am i gonna live with. What should i eat. What should i believe and so many other important choices. The time will come where you might question. Some of these choices and were conditioned to think doubting is bad thing. It's the scary thing. I think we've we've been taught that the opposite of faith is doubt and i don't think that that's accurate. I think it's more accurate to think of off. The opposite of faith is rigidity. It's <hes> certainty the moment it's going back to the first one. Keep going right like you think that you got it no you didn't you gotta keep going because everything's changing and i think in our culture. Sometimes we equate a sense of faith to a sense of permanence. This is how it is is a now. I know it and i'm going to hold fast to that. This is how it is and that's just not how life works and the ability to step back and say well wait a second. I eh i wanna have a beginner's mind. I wanna question this a little bit. Is this really what it is or is this just how i wanted to be or why. Do i feel this or why. Do i believe need this now. The ability to question things really useful skill in the practice of mindfulness in the in in buddhism. It's it's revered thing you want to dow. You wanna have the beginner's mind you wanna question everything imagine how powerful that would be the as a skill to be able to question your thoughts. This is what i think. Why do i think this had to dig a little deeper to have a more skillful relationship relationship with your thoughts and your feelings and your emotions that's kind of the premise behind this concept of having a beginner's mind or doubting and it's been really useful for me now. I've i've encountered big big aspects topics in my life that i doubted my very the the the <hes> belief of my upbringing house of a very big thing to question <hes> but it doesn't stop there. It's i question everything everything and then. I'm trying to instill this in my kids. The ability to stop ascot ascot deeper question and <hes> we were watching karate kid not long ago in the new karate kid and my son and daughter were talking and there's the scene where <hes> from where he's practicing key learning ci or something and my daughter does my yeah. My daughter said <hes> to my my son. She said reiko. Did you know that you can something with chee. Something balanced tea or something enrico without even thinking said you know that she's she's not real right and she's like no and then he said yeah. It's not real in the night. I chimed in and had how do you know that it's not real <hes> <hes> and he is forced him to pause. All i don't know maybe is it and then he asked me and i said i don't know but the point is <hes>. It was one of those invitations to to question to doubt and i think it's a useful skill to doubt everything <hes> not just the things that you believe leave but even the things that you don't believe no this is real is it will this isn't real will is it. I like to do that and i'm always his. I'm always questioning police but i'm also questioning the counter beliefs when someone says oh no that thing that you know that so and so believes that's not true caddying now because again i like to i like to have for me. The skill of the beginner's mind the curious mind. The open mind the always receptive to things that i don't know that i don't know and i think that can be a useful skill skill in navigating with with people in life in a common scenario that i think we all encounters when someone says or does something to you when you instantly know why they do it right i use the analogy all the time of the car the jerk driving the car like their certainty in that statement that that jerk cut me off off but we do that in the little things like spouse says this and i immediately assumed that and there it is that's the invitation to say well is it. Is that really why they did that. What if there's something i don't understand here. What if it's just <hes> you didn't you didn't you didn't eat enough. Go eat something you'll be happier. Appear or it could be so many things in the thing is i don't know and i allow myself to try to be more tab that it'd be my habitual way of responding with the openness of wealth. That's what was just saturday and i don't know where that came from but now how do i handle that how. How do i navigate the situation that now because of this. I think that's been a useful skill because it allows me to have separation between what's happening gene in how i am reacting to what's happening so anyway. That's kind of the the premise of of people beginner's mind. <hes> you know the the obvious beginners our kids right the they're learning about life. They're just very curious in they're always asking why and it's a stereotype that with a toddler you're gonna get the fed up with them. Asking why why why why this why will why that and you answer the why right it's always countered with why we slowly try to stop that out of kids kids because it's inconvenient and the truth. Is we get to the point where we don't know those answers so we just say stop asking or because it is and that's it and i i tried to encourage in myself that attitude of the beginner's mind the kid. That's always asking why keep asking why and then i'm going to ask why do i keep asking why why and and it goes on and on so keep choline develop <hes> increase your bump tolerance and heap beginner's mind. Those are the things i wanted to share this episode and i think it's fun to know that we we've hit this milestone with episode number one hundred and what's what's gonna happen. Nothing's going to happen. We're gonna keep going keep going till i'm not doing this <hes> but i i enjoy talking and sharing aaron thoughts and ideas and i hope that <hes> some of the people that i know that her close to me will one day maybe <hes> get to glimpse listen to my mind and how i think <hes> i hope to be able to same back for i would love to spend time with the people that i'm close close friends with talking about deep things in rather than just the the superficial pleasantries really dig in like what's bothering you in life. Why does that bother you. Where does this come from. What are the conditioning the factors of conditioning that affect how we are and like those are the things that i would love to spend time with but obviously you just don't do that sitting with someone at lunch so this is the platform where i can get to do that so thank you to all of you who have come along for this stride. I know many of you have been listening since episode. One and many of you are new. May many of you may be listening to this episode as the first one starting here you can go back and catch up or you don't or you just listen from here on forward in every episode kinda hold a ton but thank you you for being here as part of the ride. Thank you for listening for allowing me to share with you and many of you have reached out and shared with me <hes> with emails and unfortunately that's reached the point where i have so many that i i just can't keep up. I can't have them all and i. They're still in my to do list but it's a huge queue that i'm trying to catch up on some. Maybe maybe weeks or <hes> before you get a response from me but thank you for reaching out and sharing things with me. I really enjoy the connection that i have with a lot of you. That's all i have for this podcast episode as always. If you wanna learn more about buddhism summer mindfulness in general you can always check out my books nonsense buddhism for beginners five minute mindfulness journal those are two great ones and then my original book doc secular buddhism you can visit noah rochetta dot com to find links to those books enjoyed this podcast episode feel free to share it with others others right or review the mediterranean tonight tombs all of that helps and you would like to make a donation to support the work. I'm done with the podcast you can visit. Secular buddhism visit ibtx dot com and click the donate. That's all i have for now but i look forward to recording another podcast episode soon. Thank you for listening <music> until next time <music>.

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Look ahead to Elche on Dec 30th plus news round up

The Real Madrid Podcast

11:11 min | 3 weeks ago

Look ahead to Elche on Dec 30th plus news round up

"Come back to the ramadan podcast and coming up today. We're going to be looking at what's been making the news of the last few days of the holidays. More look ahead to the final game of twenty twenty away at out chapo. That is tomorrow night where he had into this. Final fixture sudan has the relative luxury of an almost full squad from which to choose. The only player who is absent. Is the brazilian rodriguez muscle. Injury will keep him out as we know now for three months minimum. Also some more good news. None of the players have tested positive. Covered over the last week now has for who will play and who or eating house out will play. Dan said today he will be with us in. The idea is for him to play a little so expect to potentially see amused. A second half substitute least plenty of social media pictures as well as being sharing marcellin iskoe at work on their fitness over the holidays. Sit atma sauce for comment on this. The place attorney very well. They are all professional and very serious. That will be opportunities for all to play. It was also asked about the criticisms that are being leveled arrays team. This remember despite the great run that they'd be on t. said nothing bothers me. He said you ask. I will do my job. Criticisms aren't going to change us. We will have difficulties. We know that we just have to continue to work hard as we have very important games coming up literally every week now the transfer window as we know his bad to open but all the news of the moment is on current deals being extended could moderate as we know is agreed in principle at least two out another year to his contract settled mean he completes a decade with madrid since leaving says next up and remers will be in to conclude the negotiations on their deals. Lots of rumors surrounding iska and potential moves to the premier league manchester city and arsenal. Continue to be linked. The situation is though that he will not be going anywhere. During this winter window. Seventy games left is still important member of the squatters. It down said all many occasions and he may still turn out to be a very key play at this year and severe depression main the favorites to sign him when he does eventually move on which is expected to be this summer now you butters balas name linked with a move to madrid. We'll know counting bensman isn't getting any younger but despite his dissatisfaction with the current regime you venice of move to end anybody else's interests by offering a ten million per season contract until twenty twenty seventy madrid position than ours. This window is concerned sedan. Not asper anything. Madrid will keep their promise. No this season equally. They don't want any departure is either now. That might not be. What look a yovich wants to hear. He remember keen to move on resuscitate. What is a fading career at the moment Erling haaland some him about his admiration of rambus. Although being enough of some to claim that he's already planning is moved to the next year chelsea though of course continue to make that interest very plain indeed and more news on kubo is remedied. Attache have made serious inquiry adage under certain villarroel will not stand in the way of any deal being done to actually move him on as it remains highly unlikely. He's got to have any significant part to play in. Ama's bursting plans for the remainder of the season fringe. Media has had a bit of a debate on whether dan's comments recently that counting beds were the best fringe ford in history were true so was general agreement with they gathered together. Some big names in the virus sean gear. Passa said he is the best of a generation of for me. lacomb was the greatest stephan garage member. Him nine ninety eight my top three he's at teary already. Jrue a number two jean-pierre pampa a number three s ready giroux. A number two ahead of any french shorter on the ban on door. Bizarre dominic rush to another of the names from the mid eighties. He said depends on the criteria. But for me just fontaine whereas the greatest all round thirteen goals remember in a world cup finals. He scored Pam at the anyone to win a balanced or. He said he will be up there as well. I e annex stop iran. He's of me. The best was bernard lacomb. And what about lacomb himself. Either worked surprises me was not on. The list is at is davidge resume. Benjamin was a world champion. Well he could have been the greatest. Then let's move on and look at say tomorrow night financially. Begin the day down in sixteenth place in la here on fifteen points. That is just three ahead of the bottom placed team at the moment who are whiskas. Seven of the fifteen point. They picked up being one at home. They have though lost just for the season and they've not lost back to back games atolls in the last thirteen games. They've only lost three was away ads. Battiste home to granada on the loss. Defeat just a few weeks ago which was a white at athletico. Now they have. Anyone wants at home this season as well that back in october when they beat valencia to look for then tomorrow thirty one year. Old of fidel is the joint top scorer with three goals easel so weighed in with a couple of assists as well. He's taught along with the argentine lucas. Boy i doubt on three goals to l. v copies since two thousand seventeen eighty to renew to renew still owning by the way is only there on loan with l. Che didn't score single league goal during his season on loan where the reading last year did get goal in the league cup one in the fa cab and one other keep an eye out for a motor. He's on the books of athletico. he's onto goals to assist he as a yellow couto away from the suspension has been a time ready for l. chair in recent years after relegation in twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen eighteen. Nancy drop down to the third tier before promotion back again to your league. This season is any the third season league. This millennium cloud caught a bit of history between these two rolaids meeting number forty three madrid half the size up a hand. They've won twenty seven. There have been nine draws in just six for madrid won the lost eight games in a row scoring twenty six goals. They've conceded just sixty loss. Meeting here was in february of twenty fifteen benza. And ronaldo call two goals in madrid a big tree that today. When was the last time today actually took a point till victory against ramat was a long time ago. March of nineteen seventy eight. It was a three one victory that day. Madrid down the years of registered. Some very very big wins in this fixture eleven goals to two. I can nine thousand nine hundred sixty push gas. Go to hat trick. That day. pedo caught five aside. There was an eight nail in nineteen sixty one. Six one hundred eighty four five. There was five one in twenty fourteen. Renaldo got four of the goals that day. Then let's have a look. The title of the takes some of the key statistics of the seasons. I have a better. These two teams that out shape late last game. Thirteen to madrid's fifteen but just twelve goals scored all campaign to madrid's twenty-seven just five point eight shots on goal average. This season voice. Eljay fourteen boy one for row madrid and shots on target just two of the course of nine hundred ninety four point seven four royale madrid in terms of yellow count. Some red cons thirty four. He had constantly outrageous twenty volt around madrid. One red card and madrid still had a player sent off this season terms of ambrish possession. This season's fifty point seven percent. Eljay fifties inborn nine madrid pass completion rate. They do keep the ball. Eighty three point two percent. Roy eljay eighty-seven born four parral madrid onto opposition shots. A game. Fourteen point three four eljay ten point three rail madrid number tackles gordon sixteen point three for forty eight parameter it Fouls twelve point eight four. J. eleven point around madrid. I'm the number of times fouls over the ninety twelve point nine. Eljay eleven point four for rail madrid Violated a good luck to the full monty madrid. Santiago's larry who's officially today. Bean revealed as the new coach of the mexican team club. America based over in mexico city. I'm not just about it up and four today. Hobby back on fridays. We look ahead to the weekend until then enjoy the game for tim cable till next time. Bye bye now.

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Animation Podcast #113 - Stop Motion with Rachelle Lambden

The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast

56:56 min | 2 years ago

Animation Podcast #113 - Stop Motion with Rachelle Lambden

"Welcome to the Bancroft brothers animation podcast. This is a show about the past present and future of animation and all things related hosted by former Disney animators, directors and authors, Tom Bancroft and Tony Benn brought this podcast is sponsored by Todd by a pro dot com. The place on the web to watch art instruction videos by the top Rosen comics, animation character, design and concept art in this podcast, Bancroft brothers, speak with fantastic stop motion, animator, Rachel Lampton. She opened up about the inner workings of Leica studios and working on films like Franken weenie convo in the two strings box. Trolls and the upcoming missing link sit back as we analyze her life one frame at a time. And now, here's the Bancroft brothers hair. Eddie and welcome back to the Bancroft brothers animation podcast. Oh, yeah. I know it's. Are you filling after CTN animated expo? We just got back a little bit ago. I got to say I've just now caught up on my sleep. I think I think so too. I mean, I had a time change because I'm coming from national. There's two hours two hours. Always kills me. I don't know why I'm going to Italy ten hour difference. Whatever that is. No big deal. I know but those two hours. Oh my gosh. Two hours of hell come back from CTN. But it was a fun time. I know is pretty awesome. We did a lot of panels. And actually, our special guest tonight is from one of our panels to we're gonna get to her and just a minute. But I I wanted to mention sketch wallet. At our wonderful sponsor Ralph Thomas, he was also at a CT animated expo, and man he premiered some of his new sizes of sketch wallets, and they were going like crazy. I remember seeing him a couple times just answering questions and selling those things because you know, I Tom a sketch wallet is exactly what it is. What it sounds like? Which is it's a wallet. And. Sketchbook put together with the number to be pencil a little golf sized pencil. That's kinda stuffed in there. It's got room for your credit cards, your three dollars that every artist should have, you know, we only have about three dollars anyway. But it's just enough to be able to tell all your other animator friends. I can't afford launch only have three bucks. Can you cover me and it that'll fit in? But still by yourself chocolate. Chip cookie later, exactly after they buy you lunch. You still got money, right? Cook cookie or your chocolate milk, which goes so well with animating, but yeah, the sketch wall is you're going to be your best buddy for travelling and moving about when you wanna make little notes and sketches on the run. I use it at the airport. I love to take it on trips with me. But even when I'm just going around town and caught an LA traffic with somebody else's driving. I don't draw while Dr Tom, but when somebody else's dried baking, I like to whip it out and do a couple of sketches and stuff keeps me sane. Thank you, schedule at all. Right. And we're not gonna play are. Game. I had a really successful game going there last couple of pet podcasts in you know, you did kill it. Did you didn't like that game? I started right into it. I just went for do you want to start over? No, no. Let's do this many go into our next sponsor. But next time we're gonna do that game this fine. Okay. Okay. So our neck sponsor is wonderful Stewart ING books, and that's at Stewart N G book stock calm, and we love Stewart. He's been a longtime supporter of our podcast. We just saw him at C T N. It was great catch up. Love seeing him and his brother Stephen he always drops by our booth. We were able to kinda drool over his books. He always has his got the small version of his brick and mortar store they takes on the road. And so when he goes to cons Sandia comic con all over Europe to he's taking like a small version of of the store with him. And it's still it's head of books. So going to the brick and mortar is amazing. It's you could also see all those books, of course, online at stew. Art in g books dot com. At because it is a I don't know where he puts all this book's. They're out on display most of them. But I know he's got this back area with even more. I mean, can you imagine him getting through TI? It's a political. I can imagine him getting through TSA at LAX with all those cards and cards is a books. I can't imagine. How long that must take to ship is books when he goes to Europe any buys more. Hey, do it you buys more while he's there? So he could take back and share with us here in the United States. That's the best part is. Yeah, he's going all over the country. When we can't right all of us listening and bringing it back to his store putting out an ad for it. You know updates Email update. So everybody listening you need to be on Stewart N G book stock calm and hit the subscribe or the update thing. So you can have be part of the Email list. You really wanna be a part of that the way to find out about all the best cells that are coming new events in store, but also like new signed additions. He's always got new signed editions of new book. Wchs is their record to sign addition Abedin there is I'm Ben so red Stewart in books dot com. That's for sure Stewart N G books dot com. They Stuart thank you and tell Tony I know I wanted to tell you we did a we had a lot of fun, and we did a lot of fun pants. But one of my all time favorites that we've done in recent years was the panel that we did on Sunday the final day of CTN, and it was called the animators roundtable. Although there was not a roundtable present. I was really kind of bummed about that that we didn't really gathered a lot of animators made up for with animators. Yes, we do have a rotund nece to us as animators usually. So there was around around around of us were out. Not not our speakers, not our guests. Absolutely not. But we were able to bring together different animators from different studios, but also different mediums, and one of the animators that we met there that we wanted to bring onto this show is our brand new friend from like animation. Stop motion animator Rachelle lamb. Dan is here. Hey shell. Shell talk. Now. Rachelle? I don't make join we had such a good time getting to know you a little bit. So tonight, we're gonna get to you get to know, you even more. So we hope well, you know, what was sad Rachelle is at on that day when we were at CTN, and we have that panel. You had some pretty heavy hitters in there that kept cutting you off and so we had like James Baxter. We had Bruce Smith. We had Michael mckerrow wits. His name from Pixar. So Antonio, I of course, constantly so now you only have Tony night to kind of put up with. But thank you for being on this. And I do want to kind of before we get into it. Tony I want to say that we we were the goal was to. And I don't know if you know this Rachelle our goal is to record that that great panel. We did. And unfortunately, win things came down to time to go on. And do this thing. It wasn't set up some mistakes remained or something. And maybe somebody robbed the ball somebody. Yes. I'm buddy dropped the ball. Somebody dropped a ball. It was a year show. You said, thanks. Yeah. There is it. It was an incredible panel those really inspiring and everybody was so excited to just find out about each other's work. That even before we went on. There wasn't even enough time to finish the conversation. We were we were trying to get little tidbits from each other. So it was it was so exciting. Yeah. And that's why it's great that we at least have you tonight. And we can we can talk for a while longer than that. Because it is a commits amount of time a lot of people that wanted to talk and at their points, and it was all great. And I wish we had it recorded. Fortunately, we don't. But we'll do it again next time. But but one of the people that Tony, and I were the most excited to meet we've met James Baxter before we know Bruce Smith, we know these guys we really wanted to get to know you because we have a real affinity towards stop motion animation. It was what we started doing. When we got I in animated. That's incredible. Have so many questions. I'm here is it really one at a time. You're just moving those things under the camera. Yes. It actually is actually after coming back after talking to you guys. I wasn't sure if what we did was a little crazy. But. After enough. People ask you that. They say, you know, is it really one frame time one straight ahead, it's linear. And you're like, yeah. That's to me. And I think we should just say this for our listeners out there that may not know this you come from like animation. You've worked on a lot of the big things that they've done more recently paranormal and Kubo in the two strings, I'm huge fan of that. Questions about those films. You're currently finishing up or have wrapped up on missing link. Which is a new trailer out about that. Right. Are you done with that? Yes. It's just wrapping up right now. Route out good. Yeah. So you've done all this great stop motion animation, and we'll get into more your career, and how far it goes back. But there is that mister mysterious element to stop motion animation that goes way back to Ray Harry house, and and some of those classic classic. Stop motion animators where it is such a craft. It is such an amazing. I mean, I guess we all you know, to animation CG animation. Stop motion. It's all a craft. Right. We know, but there's something about stop motion animation. That involves sculpture it involves. Character performance ticky Latian, but it's also always at like one or two frames per second. And and there's just seems like there's no going back once you start recording that tell us a little bit about that. What what made you fall in love with this lunacy. Well. Telling you about what made me fall in love would kind of tie into where I started. If we're ready for that. So yeah. Yeah. I want to hear that. Okay. So as a child I wanted to do I wanted to be an actress, essentially, my inspiration was, you know, like, Dustin Hoffman Bette midler, and I started to get really into performance, and I studied dance, and I would do anything I could to perform so SNL sketches on stage and community theater. And even did a slapping about the talent show. I did a monologue. Interpretive dance of Madisha. Yeah. So anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Killed her children's anyhow it was intense. However, then I went to feeder school I got in. And did it be a Fe, and I specialize in acting and theatre and directing and after that I landed a job as a production or assistant to the producer and production manager. And it was there where I started to learn about sorry. It was an animation stop motion animation studio. Yeah. Early. Okay. Yeah. That was just something you thought would be temporary at. Yes. I thought I thought I would be doing theater moving away from that. But then I saw everything that everyone was doing was inspiring like from the puppets sets probability everything, but the animation. I couldn't believe what they were doing. Like once I saw what they were doing. I wanted to spend all my time there. So I remember asking if I could watch the mandate just bunny now, but I. Pedra right. Yeah. It's also a little creepy. Right. Just like stereotype I went, but but after work every night, I would go up and ask for a set an puppet, and I just practice and so it practice. So I practiced EV every night sometimes it would be like ten o'clock time, just flew. I really loved it. So that's kind of how when you say practice would anybody sit you down and say, okay, here's the twelve principles of animation and talk you touchy about squashing stretcher, and and I know that still applies to stop motion does those principles. Did they did they get into that with you? Or do you kind of discovering that on your own? Now, I feel like I kind of came to stop motion to animate in in a different way. A lot of my colleagues learned learned to animation and then learn to perform whereas I focused on the performance and learn how to animate I still feel like I'm learning. And so I just came in it from a different angle. So. I looked at it was more visual. And in a way self taught. Nobody gave me those main principles. They give me feedback. But otherwise, it was just watching and learning. Training. So yeah. So maybe it is kind of a different mentality. Never thought about that. Where maybe we're eleven more grounded in fundamentals and things like that in two d especially she also, I'm sure, but you guys are more like, no, no, we just want it to move in have the timing might be more a bigger issue with you than say some of the other principals. I mean, some of my colleagues did study to d I said they have that understanding. So I'm constantly they'll bring tricks to the table anything. Oh, you you made a blur frame. What did you use to make that didn't I didn't know that was interval cavalry? And so I would learn that and then access that it just in a different capacity, but you've really really gone the extra mile sounds like to learn on your own because it can be can be daunting to come into something as big as stop motion emission. But what I love about your stories that it truly was passion driven, right? Yes. It was. Yes. I I loved it so much, and then I wanted to I wanted to our ticky late the performance in a more complex way in terms of the acting and terms of the characters thinking and feeling and from there. That's when I started to work on a series of other films. I would after the day job try and get on some short films and commercials and other work in order to get into feature a Mason because I wanted to be able to perform in that capacity. So yeah, so it was all. Did you like us? Did you grow up as a fan of say rare hair Ray, Harry Hausen and some of those stop motion films? You know, it's funny. Yes, I did. But I was thinking about it recently. And I realized I felt I felt like an odd ball because I didn't feel like my story was the same. It wasn't. It didn't come from. I made it I'm I made my own stop motion films. And I wasn't a huge fan of Ray, Harry Harrison, it's not that. I wasn't. I was I didn't know what I was looking at. That's what I kinda realized. So I was drawn to the animation. But I didn't have someone in my family or friends that were kind of presenting these to me. So I remember thinking back now that I look at it like, oh, yes. King kong. Oh, yes. Medusa and crash of the titans. It was it was fascinating return to is with the Nome king and. All of these things that were part of my childhood. You know, California, raisins and Gumby out so many things that were there. Yeah. That I think is worth talking about too because live it. I know I have to aggress can I just be open with you guys for minute here. Just digress. A little bit. I have two regrets. Please my life. Okay. I'm going to confess this year. Now one I got a free ticket from a radio station when I was in high school to go see the Jackson's they had a big nineteen Eighty-four tour. I was a junior, and I didn't go I didn't use that ticket. I still have that ticket. I just found it recently thirty four years ago. I gave you one ticket and you wanna go by yourself. Yeah. That was that. But I didn't hog it. I kept the ticket. I regret not going by myself to go see the Jackson's thirty four years ago. And then second I met will Vinton my all-time hero, Tom, and I grew up loving will stop motion animator the raisins and a lot of things I met him at a party two years ago talked to him about being on the podcast, and I didn't follow through. And now we'll veterans has now, and we won't be able to get him on the podcast. But we have you Rachelle. Thank you on that legacy. You kind of our our will then for the night. That's okay. Some big shoes to fill. Yeah. He was a source of inspiration for so so many people and especially in this area. He kinda planted the seed, I think, yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, I don't know if everybody knows this. But the Leica studio is a spent continuation of the will bitten production studio pretty directly, do you know that story. I do. I I. No, no it enough to tell it. Yeah. Story in about it. I guess okay. I wouldn't wanna get it wrong and not to Justice. It was before your time. Yeah. That that all that happened. I know that. Now now without you giving away your age, you're obviously younger than Tony I, but you met vibrant, more fully live to a lot more full radiant. But you awesome. It should Bette midler and Richard Dreyfuss, which is a little bit more our time, dating you. Yes. Yes. My mom. My mom's restaurant questions are you trying to ask her her age? My mother. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, because she also I was going to back up to Joe circuits. And that you you have that on your eye MD, and that goes back a little ways. And so I was just surprised looking at you when we first met, oh, she's more she's younger than I thought. So you must have how how old were you? When you first started animating on Joe circus, which TV series on Disney. I can't remember exactly my age, although it was early twenties because I had just finished university says the first job out out of interstate. Oh, okay. So that was that place that you started to sing. And they're okay. And that was Jim Jenkins. I think created that show is that correct it, but was another studio that was doing the animation for did all the animation. So it was the gym chicken or the jumbo pictures. Or what was it called? I I mean, it was Disney is Disney like show Jim Jenkins. Yes. Weakness on your paycheck. What did it say patriots? Cup of coffee animation with was my work place. And that's where we okay, that's I'm trying to dig for. Okay. Sorry. Yes. Very early though. I mean, you're you're a young. Yeah. We started early and it was kind of good because we were able to grow. They're pretty quickly. So it was TV was fast pace, and we shot I was able to work on a series of television like series as well as interstitial just. And highlights. And so and then after a little while I got the opportunity opportunity to be an animation director and in that role. We made the schedule we worked with the camera and reframe the shots. And so and then we got direction pass it on. So it was a young age a group of us who kind of worked there for a long time. We're giving a lot of responsibility, and from there, we just learned a lot of skills really quickly. I. I. Unders came out of that time, right? Absolutely. Yeah. I love that. When when you start with a production where you got really young people that are passionate about what they're doing. It's just no doubt that they're all gonna raise each other up. They're going to bring up the level of amongst each other. And it's and that's going to swell into your careers expanding. And all that. So are you still in connection with a lot of those folks that I worked with? Yes, there's a few of us here, and then and not just animation. We also have lighting and camera that have expanded. And I've puppet builders, and so yeah, we're sprinkled. There's a few there's a good handful of us here. And then you just see them all over you see what they've gone up too. So gotten update so there's it was kind of like like, a college essentially, and then we all dispersed, and, you know, went into different things is that makes me remember at our panel with you. And James and everybody else you had the whole front row you had this fan club. Come just to cheer. You are that was really impressive obviously well liked, but I I was impressed by that. But you had you and they'd all come from pretty far away too. Right. Yes. It was that was one interesting thing about c tan is what happened was there was a group of people. And if we didn't know each other, we were only degree away. So that kind of instant commod ary developed and some of those people I'd only met the day before. Yeah. Seriously. Ocean. Folks, they weren't all stop motion, folks. No, we had people from we had CG animators. And it was. Yeah. Was the lead animator from Iowa. And there is a variety of us from stop motion from all different worlds. And that's why it was so wild that we met, and we realized we were just one degree away from each other. And funny all came down on a Partridge family bus from like or something to say hang out in your panel or something there were a few animators who used to work at like a who were in L A, and they came down to support. And yeah, we are pretty I dunno close family. But I'm sure I feel like we all are all our, no. But not in two d. Angry. Guys. Uniqueness, though, when you say that I mean, I find that computer animation to animation. Yeah, we're all animation. Stop motion. There is something about the kinship think of stop motion animators, and I think it goes into the uniqueness of guys squirrel in a way in the dark for many, many hours in these hot little rooms, and you're just like pushing around Klay and all this kind of stuff for many, many hours. I don't know it just feels like you're in the trenches together a little bit more, right? Yes. I'm I mean, I always imagined. We all are. But you're saying it's not like that. But I yeah, I suppose it's we go into our little unit. So we have black curtain surrounding us. And yeah, you really feel like you go through something is your animating. And sometimes you come out I used to when we worked on Franken. Weenie? I remember we had tea trolley 'cause I was setting London. Right. And so we had tea trolley it'd be like tea trolley we all come out with an eater biscuits and have tea, and it was. Such a crucial moment because people come out, and you just have it instant moment, you look at someone and they're like, oh my God is crazy right now. And you just have that come rotary like. Okay. So I'm not the only one going crazy. Okay. Cool. Let's go back in and do this. And or you're having your on the upswing, you had a good frame, and you're happy. And so, you know. Yeah. I left on a good frame. Wait. Now. I got I want to dig deeper. So let's get geeky Technic on this. Because I want this to be also Tottori you're teaching everybody. How to do stop ocean right now? Verbally. Okay. So take us through the process because do what you just said. I just had a million questions. But like, obviously like like a pretty big operation. This isn't this like five people? You know, you make it beat your films. I'm guessing it's hundreds of people right pleural. Yes. There on the feature take us through like the departments. A lot of people. Don't know how puppet gets created. And at what point now is it given to us it completely done. And you're just like here. Here's your shot. And here's your character and give it to you in a box. I mean, I want to hear about that. Okay. All right. So when I get the puppet it is fully built. And I do want me to talk about the process from there or from like. Before that I have to create that puppet. Yeah. Okay. So. Now, please forgive me if anyone's listing, and they actually do this, but am going to delve in. So we start from obviously the script, and then we do character design probably similar to any other type of animation, and then they will make a sculpt from that. And so we can see it in you know, in real life in three D. When you say do animator scope sometimes or is that a complete? Now, we have a we have amazing amazing people that do each if that work in each department, for example, some of the costume women that I've met there not a women. But that I've met have worked in larger scale or theater costumes, and they honed their craft. And so it's it's a similar similar. I know. It goes the same way for many like all of the skill sets. So whether they were created on there, a welder on a different capacity. And now they've honed their skill to be really precise and work. You know, it happens across the board. But most people were professor. Chat making and design and now they're just doing miniature. Yeah. Not it doesn't always work. Exactly. Like that that they just scaled down. But everybody has and they're pulled from all over the world people who have these different skill sets. So it's pretty interesting, but everybody is so specialized, and they focus on we know what they do. And they do brilliant job. So after the sculpt than then we start to look at they they build the skeleton almost which is the armature which of the puppet, and they'll they'll also decide what they're going to make the puppet out of so whether it's foam or silicone or combination, and then they marry those together. The old school. I guess that's the will days. But yeah. So right. So. And and then we'll also then like I said there's a costume designer and they'll build a wardrobe for each puppet, and they sewed on they armature sometimes that needs armature within the puppet like say a jacket needs to be wired. And so how can it animate? We look at that. Then there's a hair department and the hair department builds each each little wig, and sometimes it's sometimes it's real. Sometimes it's sometimes it's real hair or goat hair. Yeah. Sometimes it's. I haven't they haven't asked. I don't if they want. Low on blonde. Blondes ladies ready to offer up. And then it and sometimes that hair will animate too. So there's gotta be armature wire in their lately. Yeah. For Kubo on Kubo animated scene in the cave with coupon. His mother and his mother had these long strands of hair that just draped down. And each one was different. You know, it was wired and in our we would take them off every time we changed a face. And so you have to put it back on. And then with fine tipped tweezers reanimate them back into place or like slightly moving them. It was crazy. Yeah. Wait. Matching because you can see the last frame. And now, you're basically matching matching it or. Yeah. Super toddling similar to what you guys do. Yeah. And so either match it or, you know, slightly as you have to kind of pull it away and back again. So each once, I remember the the wires, we had to change them to adapt. Who's like, oh, these are to soft or these too hard? So everything is thought out and tested and really articulate. So by the time, we I get the puppet, it's all built its all approved. And it's ready to go. Okay. And it's been tested out. So there's so the wire issue or or wrist is kind of jamming or doesn't doesn't have the right? You know, maybe pivot in the waste that you need movement. Thank you range of if that hasn't been that's usually been worked out they've done some testing of it. So you feel pretty confident when you get it as a rig. Yeah. Generally, if you can imagine it like that. So it's it's the tool and then from there once I get it. Then I then I tested out. So I'll take it to that puppet hospital. We call it and I'll test I wanna work there. It's pretty cool. There. And so something that's when we tension the puppet. So if wrist isn't working or hip, we actually will tighten it or loose-knit at that point in time, and we get them to open up the costume. So we can access the joints. And they'll help us tension it and once you feel so it will vary. So say you're doing an action shot, and you need the character to really hold its pose will tighten usually go a little bit of a tighter Petra tension. Order to hold that pose. Whereas if I'm doing a more subtle acting shot, and I wanna get these tiny increments usually go on a lighter tension in order to be able to achieve that. See choose that depending on the shot. Can you make it again digging deeper can you make it to loosen now? It doesn't stay as it droops while you're taking your frame, you're like. Yes. And that happened permanent. Right. Go back. A couple of frames could go back a couple of rain. So then you have to redo them. So it's what you can also do is you can bring people out sometimes if you're hot if you're on a hot set, you can bring people out to your set and the carefully get in there and give a little tweak if possible. Hot set is. If you're mid shot says say you're in the middle of your performance your hundred frames and you've got another one hundred frames to go so your hot set. So that set is like caught crashes the next frame. The next frame. Right. I mean, if you, you know, hit something or or some or the janitor came by the millenial and knocked over something that screwed up the shot. Right. Yeah. Well, and that's where I would ahead because that to me like that's such a difference between the way Tony night. And we were beginners. It was clay, and it was a super camera so radically different. But even like say, the Ray, Harry Howson's who were professional but still old school, right? Where you couldn't go backwards. Right. Everything was you know, anything dead in camera. If a mistake happened there was really no way to fix it back in the day. Right. Because it was Phil. So even that is amazing to me that your video. And so you can go back or it's digital. I don't know how it is. But, but when you say the teen Crump people come by and you're going, oh and take a break. I mean, like how here in the moment. You know what I mean like your animating frame by frame? You're thinking of the character say dancing and you're on a damn dip. And you're like, okay. I know where it's headed next. She's going to go up. How do you to stop all of a sudden and go get your credit and come back and remember where you were? Come. Whatever. I think we spent only well we do have reference. So we usually by the time, you're shooting you'll have already done a block potentially and at least a rehearsal. So we do have some frame of reference to our plan our map of where we're heading. Yeah. So another map is live action reference. Is that what you're saying? Sometimes it's live action at something that we've been adding to our process, but originally it would just be you'd have at minimum rehearsal which would be onto. So we would block on for fours or or larger right like tens key frames key frame block, and then re would rehearse rehearse on twos. And then we have those and we can now with dragon frame we use that we can load those up we can see them while we're animating if we wanted. To additionally, if you something else that we often use is called a lab, we call it a lab, it's also known as reference videos, so if there's something that we want to act out will you I mean, this is this has been used in animation for many years. But this is something that will use in order to kind of bring out more realistic acting and pick different parts. Yeah. Sometimes. Actress yourself to do a lot of your own performance. Capture you know, your own reference material hurled labs. I do. I do go for it. It is it doesn't mean that. It's incredible. However, I did learn that you just go for it. Right. He's just see what happens. Sometimes there are other people other colleagues that are just suited better for different body types or their character really matches it and they kind of get start to get typecast over the moving. We just borough them all the time. So. Do this thing. Yeah. Absolutely. What what about I love that idea of the rehearsal? I didn't even know that was stop motion animation that you might rehearse the whole thing. I did you ever fall in love with a rehearsal seeing that you shot onto and decided or is this even possible use it as your final. Instead. Not in this case, usually yes, that's happened. A lot of people will fall in love with the rehearsal because there's something about the energy of it when you're just exploring, you know, it's still a bit raw, and sometimes you take risks and that that just feel like live and sometimes people complain that they can't get it just like they had it in the rehearsal. The hersal was better. However in this case, we are shooting stereoscopic three d so we do need that second exposure. So often often you do need to have it prepared. And also right before we shoot we have something called final checks, and that's to make sure everything the puppet looks good. It's almost if you can visualize like I live action shoot where the actor or actress everyone comes in, and you know, touch them up and powders phase and make sure everything is good before they lost. The new it's new it's there, right? Then lighting the lighting matches. And everyone's like, the cameras clean everything. Now, even with that steps gotta happen. Right. Like, oh, man. I forgot to put the law puppet. As now. Maybe nothing that big, you know, like. What goes wrong like what's the worst case scenario? I guess that happens on set. I would there's a few probably a few. However, one would toss about the guy that got five what happened. Or to be safe. Just the worst thing that happened to you that maybe your own story. I think there was this one shot that I was shooting, and it was extremely long. It was the longest I've ever shot and. It was seven hundred eight frames and it was on ones. And it was one of this the scenes I was shot from Kubo in his mother and the cave, and it took me eight weeks to shoot it. Yeah. And there was over four hundred faces and because it took so long. I remember the weather was changing it started to get colder. So every morning. I remember coming into my set and just being nervous wondering if my set had shifted because that's something that happens every day. Right. It can it can. So you're set can shift your camera can shift and so just go in double check. Everything's okay. Sometimes you just have to let it warm up for about a half an hour and everything's fine. Making sure there isn't any big ships because it was a difficult. Are you talking about like literally the ground is settle in a little bit? And so therefore the Carrizo lower than it was. Yes. Yeah. We do the we do is best weekend to prevent that. We put. Yeah. Legs underneath it. But it is in in the end, it still is like a live three d you know, tangible image or pu-. Puppet. It's not really alive. I just just like. Yeah. The performance the performances live. It's almost as if I think of it as if four-seater, for example, it is that is a live performance. You know, how there's something crisp in the air when something's alive in that moment. So you're almost expanding that as an animator. Once you start you take that first frame, your set is hot like we said, and that it it's it's almost paused in time until you finish it. It's it's alive. That's how I think of it. That's the part that I can't get over is that in my mind, because I know Tony we again, we just dabbled and that we're kids so it's hard to even compare. But like, even the Ray Harry house generation of where you were on film. And you couldn't really go back. Right. But you also couldn't really stop. I mean, like, I think they would just shoot all night to get that one shot. And then they go home, right? But you're saying you actually have a little bit of a nine to five. It sounds like. And so you're constantly leaving it in the midst. That's gotta be scary. Even with all the safeguards you have. So is there like motivation ago? I might be able to get this done in two hours. I'm just going to stay later LES definitely's. It seems like worse case scenario to leave it hot set is that especially if you are in the zone. I'm sure you guys have experienced that it you're it's working for you right now. See you if you spend a couple of extra hours you can finish this. And it's going where you. Want it to go? And the opposite. Sometimes it's not, and you feel like the best thing is for you to walk away from it for a moment. You know? Well, no, I don't usually get. Four. Whatever the crop break is. There's you know, there's so much about what you described not only in your upbringing as an actress. But even as you describe making the stop motion that reminds me of theater, there's so much theater meets well animation in what you do. But with fabricating things and making costumes and lighting, it's all like, very real intangible is to me. That's the thing that makes stop motion animation. So unique compared to see animation and two d animation. Is there anything for you? When you look at the other side of the coin of two d and three and CG that seems just as crazy or different or unique when you think about it. Yes. When I think about two-day, it's definitely overwhelming because I have a puppet that I can reach it and grab and every time he guys want to have any frame you have to recreate it. And I find that over a little bit overwhelming thinking. That they contest at Tony. You're right. Wasn't thought of it three euro? Yeah. That's true. We have to we don't have a puppet, that's exactly the same. And looks the same. We actually have to recreate a dry in that looks exactly the same. But from a different angle or something. Yeah. And every frame of movement. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're out of this. That is pretty insane. You just want. And. Yeah. Three D. I guess I guess it would be interesting to be able to go back in and hone it hone your performance and free adjust. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or curse in some ways. But I I suppose you could always be pushing for your to be able to change it and make it better. So polished, right. Yeah. And yet and yet I wanted to hit on this too. Is that like animation? Stop motion animation has become so alter polished compared to most things that we've seen in the past right? And a big part of that is that facial replacement technology that you guys have can you talk a little bit about what that is. Exactly. And how that's been a game changer for you guys. Yeah. Sure. So the process is it's similar to two other animation processes. So it starts with a sketch. She'll start with it drawn and character design, and then the mouse shapes will will be sketched as well. And then it will go to sculpt, and then from there like it will be scanned in this is where we're at now because we're slowly all the every film is a little bit different. And so yeah, it will be scanned into c. G and then from there, we animated in Riggott, an animate it, and then we print it out. So so so you're animating CG model. Yes. For the facial dialogue and things like that. And for core, align it was. Can't remember the of faces, but there was quite a few facial expression combinations. Let's say I believe it might be two hundred seven thousand and then then for paranormal on it jumped up to one point four million. And then for Kubo was forty eight million possible facial expressions. So it's yes, yes. For every character all characters Kabbalah, Tom every time literally has six so about that many his mind bought out. Well, that's kind of highlight to this the audience. What would it sounds like you're saying is it's the animation from one expression to another also. I mean, it's not just like, oh, here's a happy face of core line. Here's her sad. Here's right. The man poses. You're talking about a now here's her smiling and doing an IRO, I mean, isn't all these different combinations of what the is doing and the Maoz like that too. Eyebrow is and the the rest of the face the eye balls like the the people's and eyelids sockets, they're all animated on stage. We animate those onstage after so. But yeah, the combination if you took the browse and put them with the different mouth, the whole combination of everything will equal to for Kubo, forty eight million. So anyway, so when you're when you're animating on the stage, are you saying that there's no face or there's just is or are you planting on the face? Yeah. So what on every? Plant on the face. So we get the we get X sheets or dope sheets and those are labeled. I'm not sure do you guys use? Did you were used to? Okay. So we'll use those for the Ville be numbered. So we find the face that matches the number and we put that onto sets will arrive in our set. We'll have boxes and boxes of faces. And they're all organized, and we put those on the puppet, and then will animate the is frame by frame. Okay. So somebody has already kind of pre done performance. So let's back into that. Because it sounds like a CG animator has animated the dialogue at least of of your character for that shot that specific shot. To do that. You have to have communicated, I'm guessing or does that person talk to you about this is how I did it or did you start that process? Go kiss is what I think the performance is gonna be because it's based off. Maybe you're rough tests that you did your first rehearsal. And then they animate the face to go with your rehearsal is that how it works. We will animate the faces before everything else. So we'll work together. So hopefully, we have a brief from the director and from there, we can shoot a laugh at live action video again or reference, and that's what that stands, right? And then we can work together with our facial animator to make sure we're on the same page. And that's when it goes back to the director and hope fully we have approval if not we'd make adjustments. Yeah. Just the pace you're saying that they show the director the face. Now, we have a play by play blast of it. So it'll be an animated version in CG of the face. Yeah. Okay. As April that and then you go off 'cause what if on the set or something like that or in your rehearsal? You're like, oh, she says this line a little less happy. And I wish I could make our little bit more, you know, down in her mouth. Does that happen where you're like on? Can you change it at that point? Or do you have to go back to get them all printed out again, you'd have to go back and get them all printed out again, sometimes you can make small adjustments. Maybe you can adjust. Where that smile lands or. But. We used to work more from kits and that was a little bit easier to just grab that face. But now, it's it's more preplanned. So hopefully, you are satisfied by the time. It comes comes out once it's printed. They also do a test. So they'll take a look at it. They'll just literally like slap on faces onto really kind of like dirty just to take just as tested out and to make sure make sure it's working. Smart. So if something's not printed, well, or they're not happy with it. I would say that's probably the point when they would make a change rather than making it all the way to set. This sounds like a newer process that you guys have developed probably for what missing link. Maybe is this is this something. That's no no this backs up that they were doing this on coupon on coupon. But this this the actually make an CG tests of the animation faces to that was an I thought like I'm boxed trolls that it was all done live on onset in that. You are doing facial replacement. You could I remember even seen the seems that was more of the stylistic approach on box. Trolls still keeping some of the seems on the face. But wasn't that just replacement faces largely that that was kind of picked on the set at that moment. Or was that also done like you're talking about where it was pre animated. Yeah, we preplanned we preplanned. Did. So it was always been replacement animation. But what do you think Tony that they're digging through boxes like face with the eyebrows? Boxes. It's like a popular thing for you know, the Leica publicity, people out. Here's a box of faces. Right. I've seen that a million times. So I literally the fact. They had the boxes and Anamika go. Let me see here. I feeling a little bit. I think the I think I went a little smile with a little bit of frown little congestion. The eyebrows little frustration here. You know, I thought it was like a little bit of chef souffle that they were making on live. No that would take forever. No. But yeah, it is actually you're not far off. That is I've worked like that before we have done that. I had a friend. Yeah. Four the computer. We did we had replaceable faces and I remember knocking on their their unit and saying are you don't with that. You've done with the smile, I really need this mile in these giving other half an hour. So you're borrowing faces. Yeah, it's worked like that. Definitely. Okay. You just said something that another question. How how many like on average how long is it? Take to set up to get that one frame where you need it. And before you hit click the. Frame per frame. Like how long's it take you to kind of animate that one frame? Oh my goodness. It's such depends. Right. Yeah. I mean, if it's one character if it's one character. I'm not sure do let me know if you feel the same in your process, but I find sometimes it's so fluid. It just got call them gift frames when it worked really smooth. And I almost Dila check. I keep talking thinking that that wasn't enough time. Yeah. You almost take a minute second that this really workout you double check everything. However, sometimes it can you can get stuck and the thing about having these puppets like live, and they're real fabric in real hair that if you get caught on something see you go down a a kind of bad road, and you touch something on the jacket, and then you spend all this time. Time trying to fix it. And you've you're taking your tweezers and smoothing it out and trying to animate the fabric bag or the hair bag that can that can take a long time. Sometimes you need to just walk away for a break. So it really varies. There's no one standard. Whenever you start bringing out tweezers. Saying I can only imagine with hair and stuff like that. And just the subtlety of. Oh my gosh. I don't know. I'd to me I'd rather just draw. And that gets sorry. Keep going. Well, I just wanna say those are the extremes and most of the time like, let's hope you're you're getting a frame every ten minutes or so and. Yeah. You have to have quotas. I mean, what what are they quotas of like, I'm obviously it's a crowd seeing they're gonna give different quota that the person's got one or two characters. And I I assume are you if it's safe three characters on down four characters on down, are you animated all four characters. Yes. You are see what point are you getting help? Well, if you have a lot of characters potentially you might have an assistant come in do some of some of the characters, but it's pretty rare. Now, usually we will separate those so say there's a foreground character that will be shot under different pass. So often often the end you're left alone to shoot everything that's on your set. So usually, you're in charge of everything. Wow. Like camera to. Yeah. You take the you take the images. So when you're ready. Yeah. You you shoot it. So sometimes we have like a camera move. That's all done later became a move is done live. So it's happening. It's happening at while you're shooting, so what will happen? It's a. Pre-programmed? Yeah. So every time you take a frame, it will the camera will move. And then you take a frame in the camera will move so everything is pre programs here and there, and once you press, you know, go once you capture that it's linearity it'll move to the next frame. And if there's a camera focus, again, a camera focused pull the camera will adjust. It's all pre-programmed in there hoping that you're you pay your marks and everything. Yeah. I love the. I love the. We're going to start wrapping up. I know where you've been given us you've been very generous with your time. You're actually at like, the reason our audiences enjoying your your nice tonal quality is because you're actually in a professional recording booth at like right now. So we wanna thank you for your time rebel. But we just have a quick we're going to do a ten for ten ten questions for our patriots listeners to. So we could sign off on this. You've actually opened up the basket of interest in this motion for me like never before. I think I'm gonna get some more clay because I I have a needed a racer I'm gonna start with this right now. But I'm going to start sculpting animating this needed eraser later tonight. A little Mickey Tony I think he could take a little bit key with this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Certainly Dr with my graphite, so I wanna see lip sync. Tony. Yeah. So Rachelle thank you very much for being on the bankrupt brothers, animation podcasts, and and listeners hang on for the extended version with ratio where she goes deeper yet into everything's names names names, and it's thirty Tom pulls out things that she shouldn't say and as 'specially being way now. But as as as we say animate animate from the heart.

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Year In Review 2020

Los Compas Lounge: a PSA for Brown Men

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Year In Review 2020

"Welcome to us. nouns appeared. See for brown men. We are your host. This is known this year. My name is relevant and this is a podcast about brown men talking about issues that matter to you. We talk about things that we don't usually talk about in the brown communities. We're just three. Regular compass sharing our experiences to inspire positive chains. Gumbo up a scene. We have one ready for you. Wow you know it's been a whole year. Our first our first year as las compa clowns has has been has been something. Let me tell you something that none of us ever expected would happen all kinds of weird stuff. happened A lot of derailments you know and And i guess you know this is what twenty twenty is you know. But twenty twenty isn't what it is. Twenty twenty is what we make it to be. You know and this episode. You know we'll be you know. We'll be having flashbacks of of this This year twenty twenty you know The good the bad the ugly the raw and the yet to be and you know what composite. It's been a wild ride man. I mean it's you know. It started off pretty tame and then next thing. You know you know We have some civil unrest going on throughout the country. You know black lives matter and then Then kogo nineteen hits and And then all kinds of other stuff has been happening. You know and it's been it's been pretty wild man. I feel like we got jack man. I remember since like the nineteen hundreds. We used to talk. Oh man in the twenty twenty. We're going to get jet packs. Actually they told us that about the year. Two thousand you know thinking of the year two thousand and flying cars and nothing happened. Okay maybe maybe twenty twenty is like you said we're gonna started of well. You know what. I mean started normal one. What normal was a normal level. You know twenty twenty was a nice Has a nice ring to it. You know january first twenty twenty right cool twenty years passed into this new decade of the two thousand and then bam right you go through this whole craziness of the impeachment process with The president and Then that doesn't go anywhere and like you said we've been lives matter. Movement is crazy and then covid nineteen in. That's the part that i at least for me where i was like. Fuck you know I don't want to be apocalypse. But if there were as ambi- apocalypse type of situation. I think a lot of was will be screwed. You know the anti massacres But you know it is what it is you know not to get too political but Twenty twenty has been rollercoaster. Look at us now. You know we're towards the end the twenty twenty and and trying to look back and try to Make a little bit sense out of it and and In what it meant to us and and hopefully what. We're looking forward to for twenty twenty one. I don't think he was a a A roller coaster. I actually think it was like it was like one of those like waterslide that you're going down but a bunch of down all overmanned bumps arrive what you think. It's it's getting a little better. There's like you know bigger bumps and you know. Yeah there's there's no way to enjoy this damn bloom something else on us You know it's just like you know like we've been missing all these global and national events you know but for me you know One the main thing six out to me you know. It's just been a very hard and painful year. You know. I actually you know in my household we call it. The the year of of sage. You know And the reason. I say that is because there's been so many people that we've lost in in in my circles and whatever someone passes away we burn sade for them. You know Or when we find out that friends or family members are ill or near the end. We burn sage for for their for their families. You know and one you know. I had a real close friend of ours. Pass away and then You a month later. Another person passes away and then Good friend of all of ours. His father passed away. You know just a couple of months ago and some of them are code related others or just. You know death happens. You know our our elders or or passing are passing away now man and that's been a big thing for me personally. It's just too. I mean when you think it's it's it's sorta getting okay. Twenty twenty goes in hits us with you know with with another another loved one. Gone down you know. And it's been very painful for in ramiz household reminds me like except when i said rollercoaster in the we said kind of made me think about when we all went whitewater rafting a few years back. And then you go. It's fun you get the adrenaline going. But then you know there's some points there's some rapids that are just like you think they're over into nadi like shit you know what was it. Tins set pool was one of the american river and and i thought about twenty twenty six eight ten sets sets pool and am not trying to be dark or satanic by by any means at all but You know ruben. It's too right you know. In in my friends outside of the composite lounge you know an relatives and friends of friends with my wife and our extended family. You hear about stuff know people passing away and you hear the sad stories where people go to the funeral homes in early on during the pandemic and then somebody elderly folks get infected as well and then they die. You know you hear that stuff you know and it kinda sucks because you hear my in-laws talking about it that they knew the lady or the new somebody you know flannel todd and allegra no rest in peace and like man. You know you can't even go see your Dying mom or dad in the hospital. I mean that is the saddest thing exactly because by alone and not you know again not not necessarily look at it as a tragedy or dark episode or something. We'll talk about it but the reality is twenty. Twenty has been challenging super challenging. It's been pretty bad. But despite that i mean will we wanna share is what what have we learned. Or what are some of the lessons we learned. And how are we coping twenty twenty and also What positive has come out. There's a lot of negative. But i mean and i know. There's a lot of positive that that has happened also you for one. I mean it's like. I mean a lot of time like the family you were forced to just you know game things you know that a lotta times. You probably didn't and i said good point Thinking about it for me It allowed me to one of the most memorable times i've had in. Twenty twenty is just being a kid again with my my son and my daughter you know we go to a ritual of obviously he's going to zoom school and all that and the baby and we're working with her but between eight thirty and thirty i really don't have a life because i'm checking up on them and and i it's fun after that you know we're playing around and were were if like you said how did you make the best out of it right because they're here with me and it is challenging as a follower but at the same time if you look at the positive side you know you you you're with them you're playing you know you're you're having fun. We play hide and go seek in the evenings like six seven thirty around there. Do a few rounds in turn off the lights in. It's fun and that's been a ray. Does he have omid. Have you started showing how to bake catch like baseball. Football a little nerf football in the summertime we'll be on the backyard and tossing the football But my kids. They're the biggest joy right now while it's been cold right. This is We're in the winter so the biggest joy is a mud being in the mud getting dirty in the summer into little pool that we had the and then finally towards the end of summer i built a little mudpit for them so we put dirt in and then they just put water in. He has his construction toys. Anyways these kids are from head-to-toe just in the mug take pictures of them. Who have fun and newest hard. Because early on in the summer they would get into the backyard. And just you know the landscaping. We have a pretty nice la- landscape in here and they will tear it up right and for me. I was like kids are kids right and my wife would like. Oh my god you know and and you know. She's totally kubo. she'd be like oh my goodness they're totally tearing it up so it was like shit. Well where do you okay. While we're gonna make mudpit so now. They have their own space. They could tear that up now and it's totally cool so anyway for me like you said it almost seems like you give out forced sounds kind of negative. But let's just say opportunity you know goldin nineteen and staying home with with the kids being home at school and all that it created an opportunity for me to Be more happy nurturing. And be i think. The best way casillas me to be a kid with them and just be joy joy foreign and and still allows me to do my work but be with the kids and laugh laugh laugh. I've been laughing a lot. This whole Up time now with the kids. So it's been it's been on average in that regards for me and that's You know that reminds me of one of our episodes. I think it was about the pandemic and And you know. Basically the pandemic forced us to re-evaluate where we're at you know and reevaluate what our priorities are. And you know that you know for me. That was a positive. Like i said i mean it you know. It forced me to come to terms with things that i thought i was doing what i realized i wasn't so you know so being able to spend time like like similar with with my family You know get back into a better health. You know because. I actually had time to do that. You know and You know just enjoy the little things you know and finish up projects. I mean you know. Yeah thank you guys have seen. The photos of you know Your backyard backyard in the front yard. We finally we finally started worked on and finished these projects working on the front yard and the backyard and And the reason we wanted to do that was so that our our grandson can actually enjoy the backyard. Because you know we weren't able to take them anywhere because of of of the shutdowns. So you know we were able to spend more time with our grandson and you know that was. That was a blessing in disguise. You know how you know and You know not say that it's all it's all you know who roses end and chocolate and everything you know because we all know you know. It takes a lot of patients to to to raise a three year old. You know but But you know you know that that's a positive you know and getting back in health like back into shape like i said and Working on allowing being able to have time to to make my side projects my main my main focus you know for a good half of the year and that was that was a really positive thing you know and it's like kind of like this. Podcast came out of passion for us right. Yeah that's another. This is a perfect example because we have been talking about doing something together like months if not years prior to this know and then we finally i mean technology. The technology was always there but we just we were too lazy or i don't know what it was to put it all together. You know we we had because we had too many excuses you know and one of the main excuses was not the temple where you know what now we have titled. Let's go ahead and do it and you know what you know. And we can all attest. Yeah you know. I it was. It was hard work but it was fun. Work and And it still is. You know and and that's another good thing that came out at twenty twenty you know. And i'm i'm not gonna lie and say you twenty twenty. One was the best year obviously. Wasn't you know and and not to take lightly of you know the other people out there who don't Have these opportunities. A lot of people lost a lot of jobs you know. They're all the every like the restaurant people. I mean it's like you hear about that starts. It's just sad but you don't think another positive thing. Well he's for me. We're you know these elections proved that do have some kind of semblance of democracy and we're gonna have a new resident next year and for me. That's a positive thing because you know we. We have certain certain orangemen does not going to be in the white house air more. That's good it's and it's been so this whole year actually has been on the election side not to get too deeply political but You know anywhere everywhere you go on social media or on the news. It's just so much disunity. Right so like we're yeah. We're in so attacker yet. Yeah exactly such a. It's kind of depressing a little bit. You know but but like you said. There's a light at the end of the tunnel. You know president-elect biden you know january. He's just around the corner right. You know literally. Johnny twenty-first you know so that's a positive and you know his orange and it was good to see a huge time out of the latino community about the country. Sure note doesn't matter what who voted for just the fact that the communities actually stood up and went out and voted like they'd never have in the past you know and that that's a very big positive thing you know especially you know for us as those gone pas who want to talk about issues of within our community you know. So i was really. I was really stoked about that. And hopefully that momentum will carry through twenty twenty four. Whichever way it goes you know at this point. It's just i think enough people on both sides saw the need to go out and vote. You know good or bad. Yeah you know what i really. I really hope that the country heels. I'm ready for that though. Divisive right now i mean it's like i just i really think that biden would. There's no way there was no healing with trump. You know. I mean and so i really hope that the healing comes and i really hope that we get back to harmony because you can't shut down somebody just because they disagree with you this whole cancel culture and everything i mean. It's just back to harmony on an on a similar note about health and getting better. It looks like we have a couple of vaccines on the way that looked promising. And you know hopefully this cove nineteen will be able to. You will be able to take care of this also sometime. You know sometime. Mid next year you know and I'm really hopeful about that. Combust you know. Maybe we needed this reset. Maybe that's what twenty twenty was about a reset you know to to to slap in the face and say you know what. Get your priorities straight. Yeah you know what people are prepared and thinking like all in general like yeah you know we had. We had this orange guy. Who was just jackie things for everyone. Maybe we needed that type of person to remind say this is not who we are. This is not the democracy radulov host to be and generation away. Yeah you know the same thing would be you know. Maybe this was needed to help. Really help unite people you know and remind people. Hey you know what we. We're all americans blow. It sucks that like there's all these other violent groups that have been trying to jackass hijack yet the original movement of you know bringing awareness to you know Abuse of you know abuse police abuse you know. But i mean we would like with those anonymous zones like what happened in in seattle. What's happening right now in in oregon that there's just taking over Land and just say oh. This is a in those. I don't think that brings harmony. That's not that's not. That's not something positive. i agree with it. I mean you're right going by. It's not but i think i think the intent is to bring awareness and then violence occurs and there's people who take advantage those are the by and that's the part that i agree with you. It's kind of sucks. But i do want to make a quick point. That twenty twenty is a reset. You know we. I don't know if you ever saw shores back in the day by day maybe last ten years prep irs or whatever you wanna call it. Prep prepping you know like bare survival. That was about ten years ago. Yeah exactly anyways Some of that stuff is very valid. You know like prepping right because what if this were a zombie apocalypse. Right ship we will be totally screwed right So this is an opportunity for going pass to really take stock of who you are and where you're at and your family and i'm not saying go out there and get all crazy rambled out prepar kind of guy if that's who you are and what you wanna do then go for it but what i'm simply saying is like open your eyes a little bit Put some more money away on his emergency fund. If you're if you're out of a job right if something like this happens again have at least six months to a year's worth of money so you'll lose your house or or or so. You can have food on the table. I mean that's easily senator totally Exactly what. I wanted to make the point that this is live paycheck to paycheck. Yeah don't get me wrong. You're absolutely right. I'm not saying. I'm not trying to be elitist. Alcoa buff but i'm simply saying that and i i don't mean to go and i get i get it. Yeah yeah i get. It's not your fault you know if you lost your job. It's not your fault. That's what i'm saying but that goes to show all of us right. They were all inexpensive. And we're all vulnerable to this hot for edge of how fragile we are. You know exactly. And that's what i'm saying though so whatever you could control a leasing put it up front and center in your mind to think about it and even if it's saving a couple dollars here and there or getting an extra thick just thinking ahead like are you going to do man. How are you going to survive the bombie apocalypse. Should it ever come yet. But you know what i mean us being right here in california. Yeah no an earthquake could his anytime. Yeah exactly so we always have to be prepared you know. And also that's another thing that as a family you know that with my kids like we practiced those fire drills or escape routes and stuff yet platt plan all of that you know i mean getting older we we need to re And stuff there was a. I will tell my two sons to to be under one door another. They will fare biegel yet and i think that's what i wanted us. That's the point. I want to make where reassess reassess and and and count your blessings. Look at what you have. And what else can you do to to help. Prepare yourself should this happen again. You know and i think that's where the twenty twenty can be a huge lesson or lessons for for everyone. You know who were you before. Twenty twenty went to any twenty hit. What were you in a good. You know were you able to withstand twenty twenty. You know were were you able. To thrive in twenty twenty even though we were going downhill you know. And if you were going downhill how did you deal with it. You know you know if you needed help you know whether it was financially emotionally Whatever it is you know. Did you have compass there for you. Did you have family there for you Were you there for other people who need you know I it's a reset you know. It's like okay. All this stuff happened. Was i prepared. Yes or no be honest with yourself and what can you do better for. Twenty twenty one. You know whether it's like like you were saying like did i have a nest An unjust fund emergency an emergency fund. You know the nest egg right there. You know to make sure you can get through those rainy days. You know if not what do you need to do. skills wise. You know if you if you lost your job you know where you were. Cut down hours d. Did you have any other skills that you can use. You know to get you through whether it was starting a side gig or whatever may be you know a family wise you know. Did you get to know who your kids were now that you had to spend time with them. Now that you're not you're not be a parent teacher to have more respect for your wife man. Does she's a teacher she's high school. Teacher ruben yeah and For our military man makes is. I love my son to death. You know but teachers have a magic gift for Facilitating and working with kids. My son i see them. I'm i'm they're sneaking up on him. We're looking behind it you know. And they're doing great But we know as soon as zoom is over and he has an independent learning. Guess what. I'm the teacher inch. I'm fighting with him. Mp's like math is so boring is just gave them detention. Give them details. I want to hear gasol back to the old. I try s back jackie right. I tried the strong arm method early on it did. Few guys workman ends up crying in and it sucks for both of us and then he tells his mom. Then i does to. You is sleeping in the car on the couch. But you know what i was gonna say that. Look sleeping with the dog. You have a dog for me. But one thing i also in this thing about parenting. I learned that it works right. You sit down. You talked to them. You rationalize stuff and say you know i'm the parent and this. We're going to do and validate their feelings. I understand you think it's boring and you hate it but this is what we need to do and you hug and you give affection and then you. You know you talk to them. And he's like figuring stuff out like he's waiting for me to be pissed at him. And i'm like i'm not pissed i to like we need to do it. And he's like okay and you know. Give me a hug and then know it pisses me off. Because then he's he's gonna the material pom pom pom pom pom nothing. I'm like oh my god and all this drama for what can you believe it. All the kids want is a but but they want they not a talent but it's more they just wanted to spend time with with mom and dad secure. That's what it is. That's all it is. Is this like dismay this. Just re- reinforce that you love me. Mom you love me. Dad you know. Can i hug you. Can you hold me. you know. that's what they want. And that's what i'm learning it's beautiful. That's the part that i touched upon earlier about spending time with my son and of course with my daughter but forcing myself to put the brakes. Oh took them out. I want to be upset. Or or i want to be like okay. We're turning to soften we're taking these privileges away from you. I want to do that tactic. And i know it doesn't work six years old so you just gotta be like okay. I understand what you're saying. You know you kind of prow him processes emotions and his feelings about why he thinks he or process feelings towards not liking math right so once we start making fun and you get you start drying your little circles or you start getting your your beans or or your pennies to count. And he's doing the matheny subtraction like no problems because he can visualize it and it's cool anyways that part as a parent. Twenty twenty is a big plus for me. I've grown in that regard. The that a pandemic little tiny little virus has has brought you closer to your kids you know and has has opened has opened up your your avenues. You know in other aspects of your life you know that he'd never even thought you know were even there. You know whether it's like this podcast that we have right now or you know whether it's a different business ventures that we have you know that they've grown because of the pandemic in in a certain manner you know or or that we've learned whether it's learning more about our our immediate family members are learning need new skill sets or Learning about ourselves you know and his dam. Little virus forced us to give us this opportunity. You know to do this. You know so i mean yeah. Twenty twenty was a was assessed pool of bad things. But at the same time you know Out of out of out of shit. Beautiful roses can grow from that you know and Fertilizer the fertilizer and Minority no a little cow dung you know can can can create something beautiful man. Maybe with twenty twenty has been about man. This is like spas that smells like shit. Looks like shit but look but here. We are roses. Come and what's your secret. Maybe maybe people learned about the stink but day. What do you mean. There's no more ep coming weeks ago as well. You know like you know when there's gonna be the possible shutdown in california. You know everyone went out. And what's the first thing they do again. They go by his dad twenty. Didn't you guys learn the first time around. You don't really need a toilet paper that you're gonna be okay. Episode scares the shit out of this. We're gonna talk about toilet paper. Some people do did say was a shitty year so i can see no more twentieth shitty year the toilet paper where thank you. Twenty twenty know. I do honestly zeroes in twenty twenty. They do they do. Look like little holes. You know for team. That's right the last part i wanted to say for me is So now i'm taking care of you know my my little kids and my mom and dad so to speak so my parents are they being with me for a while already. And that's been very interesting. You know it was a little bit of a rocky start with my mom because it's always been difficult for her because she's so independent But now it's i think it's been really great. She sees the value and the beauty of grandchildren being with her She has a daily routine where she wakes up in the morning. And she'll go for a walk into knows the whole neighborhood already. Probably better than i do so nice. I know totally she come back with our this or own house. Oranges were lying but are are there Not actually takes neighbors yards like the trees are hanging in the context. Here you could take. You could take thermometer. We still able. You can't take easterly where they go around. The i know that right there was actually suppress down a few blocks on. Docs down the way where they have. The yard sale are got this him. So that's got to some for every non-issue citrus win over here on the street and the branches were hanging over the answer help all. They're gonna get you so we have cameras so have fresh today. She brought oranges by dada. Was eating oranges. You're you're going to hear a knock on the door. I know like the the fruit police are gonna come a we have a citrus lady over here. Stealing are citrus. But i wanted to say that it's been very interesting because it's knock on wood. It's been smoother than i thought the only a hiccup the only part that that's difficult or challenging is looking at my dad. He's been in the hospital for a while already. You know he's he's he's he's not doing too well and that's hard you know. It's just as his old age and he's these old man essentially you know and my mom's a little more vibrant and she's able to hold herself and walk around and do her thing and and it's good to see my mom and dad together because she's helping them out you know but it's been very interesting because i see my mom and dad's dynamic like play out day to day and you know they still bicker at each other and they've been married for shit. I'm gonna forty odd years. Maybe fifty dollars. So i forget what it is pressure. Fifty seven fifty and change but The cracks me up a little bit. I'm like okay. You know and look at this as a again this word opportunity i want to use. I mean look at this as an opportunity for me to help provide a roof over their head and take care of whatever finances the they need taken care of because knows how long we're going to have them right. You know especially again you know not to put a bus or be buzzkill but my dad is not doing too great so we're hoping that He he can Be with us as long as he can be with us. I know my mom is looking at her. Being here is something very positive and valuable for her and from my dad so for that. That's a really big plus you know they're here and it's it's it's been really good for them twenty twenty. You know it's been challenging years like we said you know but you know this happens every so many years in order to happen in the early two thousand during the dotcom market crash i remember business was going real well for me and everything and all of a sudden womb the company. I was working for lost their finance and just like dad just went from one day to work. We don't even have money to pay you so take your computer as a payment you know it was like crazy now and then in two thousand and eight or the housing market crash you know and right there that was that was real for me to i mean i had all these contracts. We had contracts with the state of california. That's it i'm set. And they were the first ones to start paying me with us. you know. they're all. I know he did this money. You don't have money so here's an iou shoot. That was really tough in two thousand and twenty twenty. I mean ran word. The the midst of it. you know. it's like it's so for some people you kind of started with hope like man and i know sometimes you think of that said twenty twenty is really bad and then something worse and it is you know. Just keep your chin up. You know it'll be just keep your chin up yet. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know and just concentrate to every problem. There's a solution focused on the solution. Just concentrate more on the solution. And i mean i know. Sometimes you need to expand on issues. But i always work on summarizing it or like instead of nycfc concentrated on so many problems you know like how can we solve the people. Start blaming all while. Why did this causal because of this because it didn't matter how problem let's just work on solving it right now. We go into the blame game after all right now. Let's just solve the issues that are at hand and let's just get back in back to harmony. That's really good hobby. Yeah you know Similar to what. Y'all are saying you know. Twenty twenty has been has been a wild ride and it's not going to sugar coat it it's been really jacked up for a whole lot of people then you know and It's interesting how we're ending right now. You know everything's A cyclical you know whether it's the economy you know. Every ten twenty years you know whether it's Job cycles cycles in life you know In your twenties you do certain things thirty certain things forties you do things differently Family life that's different cycle right. They're having You know my son turned eighteen today. You know and And that's pretty wild man. Eighteen years old. You know that's a he's a. He's a legal adult. You know and the the on the and i told muddy so yeah you know and i'm gonna you know. I think i'm going to have them. Do is register cycle. Like oh you can have them registered to vote no no. He has to register selective service for the circa service. Because he's a he's a he's a male he's he's a guy and you have to do that by law and yeah then you know. We're gonna you know that. I'm gonna make sure he registered to vote you know and You know he can decide who he's going to vote in what party you're he's gonna affiliate with nuts totally up to him but as long as he understands that process and you know. This is a cycle another cycle in life. you know. i'm glad that this was able to make it to eighteen years old. You know and Because there's other people who didn't you know and count my blessings you know and and remind myself that unfortunate you know even though i personally i've had a lot of losses this year They're still a lot of friends. That that i still have and in my circles you know i still have a job and even though that was if he you know you know midway through the year but you know everything turned out. Okay know end We have a roof over our head. You know we have food and in In the fridge we have supplies. You know of all types you know for the apocalypse in the garage and other places on the property because you know we were prepared certain extent and another another aspects. We weren't really prepared you know. So that's saying you know. Twenty twenty a kick in the button. Hey you know reset you know control delete and the and take care of things that need to be taken care of you know Twenty twenty that little virus just reminding us get your get your get your act together. You know if you don't have to get it get together because twenty twenty twenty twenty. One is going to be here whether you're prepared or not so You know that's the reality check for twenty twenty and i think the three of us here. I think we were coming out. Okay little scathed but mckay you know and i think even better than okay in all reality you know And it's still permits the year or sage. I've been burning. wait. Let's as this year but that's part of the cycles. As well the best thing one of the best things that came out of twenty twenty for me is those gone bust loans. That's right you know. And and we've been getting really good. You know feedback from from from folks out there and we started really good dialogues. And this is what twenty twenty is about. You know as you know acknowledging what's going on and starting something you know a great philosopher told me ruben don't said do it they don't and that's and that's what looks compass were saying it and we're doing so we look forward to hearing you talk. This is a great way to wrap up our first season of las campanas lounge. Ps safer brown men were doing because of. We're doing this because of our passion because of our love for our community because we actually care and we listened so please understand that this is our passion and and we couldn't do it without you and your support. So i wanna say thank you pass for listening for supporting us and i know we probably bug you all on social media with our little you know Promos and whatnot. But i'm hoping that you get some value out of our episodes and the wisdom that we're actually doing it because of you. So thank you for listening. I wanna thank all the listeners. Also for this first season and you know what the feedback that. 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MLS Is Back Group Stage Biggest Surprises w/Kendall Waston and Knockout Previews

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MLS Is Back Group Stage Biggest Surprises w/Kendall Waston and Knockout Previews

"You're listening to extra time driven by Continental. You feel enough that Matt. I feel a lot better, bob extra telling me see. How I find out what's going on in the MLS? Maybe this podcast is influenced me a little bit as well loss. Loss everybody up here. Every single day goes into the office into the laboratory. To try to cook up some great stuff for you, guys. That's why he's here. Welcome everybody to extra time by continental and MLS SOCCER DOT com. Your official podcast and you can watch us on Youtube. This is your final mls back. Group stage podcasts addition because we are moving to the knockout stages. This is where the big lights come on, and for you to I, just want you to know. The ball door will not be awarded by French magazine, but I have my own trophy to give out and both of your winners in my books Charlie Davies Jalen car, joining me for this one guys. Are you so excited? I early. It's guy just last week had on, said he was the number one striker an extra time history yeah, are not getting if teen minutes of fifteen minute appearance and this guy gave him the crop, and now he wants to sweet talk. Yeah, I'm not buying it I'm not. In the award either you hear my two two of my favorite attackers. Extra time history also Kaelin you're gonNA knock me for expecting guy. No, no, no! Respect they. Don't come at me when I'm trying to love on the man who's not getting enough respect, you can go love without without throwing titles. That's all I'm GONNA say yeah, are throwing US under the bus that exactly. That's all I'M GONNA SAY LISTEN Now that ball endure is in the balance because I don't know. I don't know if I can give it to you. If you won't come to the ceremony and accept so we'll discuss. This later got a lot to talk about a lot to come up Kendall. Watson's going to join from the FC. Cincinnati squad that defeated the New York Red Bulls got six points in the group stage. Stage they are moving onto the knockouts. Their opponent is still to be determined later tonight, but it probably doesn't matter because this is a machine that is on a roll, so he's coming up in just a moment to bring us all that momentum. Maybe we'll steal some of his juice because I'm sure he had a good night. I don't need it, but maybe someone else you know. Now you're throwing shots and. All I said is I have it. I have that momentum. Feel good at home save. Shot at me to be honest. I've been I've been stream for about sixteen hours at this point, but we'll catering. Longer have to eleven am. Just like. Adrian. He says you know what I mean. They've already given Charlie. The crown whatever. But I'm, GONNA overcome our. To Be Ninja, on twitch. Sixty hour street G-GO. Most no shoot. Don't worry. We'll get into Adrian heath already complaining about us before we even knew they matched up against in just a moment, but Kaelin. No more eleven am streams for you. Because mls today presented by at and T. is moving to primetime on Saturday. We'll come before every single day of knockout stage games presented by Audi Susannah. Kaelin, doyle and Charlie will all be there to talk and bring? Bring you into each kickoff coming up. Because you guys, we've got or days. I'm knockout games coming to games every day, Saturday Sunday Monday, Tuesday, it is going to be dullish. Is this I? Think is the meat of tournament I love the groups age, or when you roll right in, and you're getting must win. Go Home Games to a day. That is always beautiful part of every competition. Let's talk group stage before move on Dennis Lag at cool whip on twitter wants to know. What was your biggest surprise of the first round, Kaelin using to be locked in right now, but start with you. L. I think it's. Pretty obvious, and we will speak to one of the central figures very soon but FC Cincinnati for me has been the biggest surprise of the tournament Let's start with this. They didn't have a manager. for I don't know most of this Gornji, so while everyone else was doing zoom calls and tactical sessions. I don't know they were adrift. They were just out doing your own thing. alvalade had a strength coach. Passing hunts workout but I tell you what I mean Somehow gets across the ocean and shows up phrases team for twenty minutes goes at loses the first match or nil, and then makes a really smart choice as simple choice and a- confident one, actually because it's one thing, and there's a lot of pressure on managers, and we see this pretty much across major league soccer, every preseason, which is kind of still the stage of things that a lot of these clubs in and everybody comes down, and sits at the extra time set, and they all sit down in wine and dine. We be in Gos- and tell them about how they're gonNA play, beautiful, expensive, elaborate football with intricate passing. We hardly knew. Born in behind amick attacking pieces and About a couple of weeks in preseason, I've been on teams I've been on teams in Chicago Harlison will scopus came in, and said we were joy football, and express yourself, and we went down to Mexico in preseason. We played on the Harley play We played club America. We played hawks at and we got destroyed and. Immediately went out the window and was like Oh man. What are we going to? And on the last game of the season we played against Chivas. USA In two thousand ten This was Brian McBride and see tip around gave him sorry for those guys to this. We WanNA, match, but before the Metro both out of the playoffs and Dillas, Cobos tells us hey. Chiba is actually a very good team and the way both of us play is really beautiful is is good soccer proper? It's like the way to play and I'm sitting in. My head is about. Been The freestone conference finals in a row this point and suddenly this is not where we want to be so my points are had come. is, but my point is. Coach to come into a situation. Lose four nil and understand the problems that are there and the roster that he has to bend within the matter of days set his team up in a way that makes a ton of sense is pragmatic, and then trust is attacking players to make a difference when they get the opportunity. That's exactly what we've seen so. Predator FC Cincinnati. They built the foundation. The building blocks before they've gotten more than they even expected from it, but not anything less than they deserved and an rightfully going into the next round, so that's been surprise and the pleasant surprise for me of the tournament so far Charlie for you. have to agree. It's Groupie Cincinnati back to back wins Atlanta red. Bull. No one expected them. To to compete after that four zero woman, and like you said you had a new coach new philosophy new tactics. Even if you do stay compact, we've seen teams who just defend. And they don't defend well, and they still give up goals. I didn't expect Cincinnati to not only defend. But be able to score and win games and we knew what they have in. In Kubo, we knew what they have in Frankie. Meyer has taken his game up a level George, jo-john, who who showed potential as gone through some injuries and trying to work his way back. They're missing. You'RE GONNA. Look you imagine what what what's going to happen. When he gets back on the on the on the field, that's a whole `nother dynamic, and get makes them that much more dangerous than hit you on the counter to play the way playing right now when you're when you're defending and then harassment Jim, Johnson who is on the ball. We know what he can do with his left foot when they're dropping deep like that. When you have a player, who can spray the ball across the field wherever he chooses? That allows you to open up the field at her teams set-pieces dangerous on every setpiece, so this Cincinnati team has blown everybody's mind because no one expected them to be able to put performances together and get results so. Kudos to Cincinnati FC Cincinnati and Yaps Tom and what he's been able to do. Obviously, the players are buying into his system and buying into what he says because is, he's proving. Listen to me and we'll go out and get results now you're seeing. A team developed confidence and momentum heading into the knockout round, and that's the worst team to play against a team that. KNOWS WHAT THEY WANNA do has an identity already. We're just going to defend and look to score on set-pieces and counterattacks and our top of that. We are playing with confidence. We have faith in our manager. We have faith in our team that we're going to go out and get three points, though that those are always the scary teams to play against a team. That's coming in high on on Momentum Gordon. Hear more about if million point is a good one at because if you look at that first match, especially in how he's been used that first match. If you look at the second goal that lumber scores, he's chasing Nag. be around life forty yards fifty yards from his goal. That is not the position where you WanNa see, but doing it in and asked to cover that much brown. Now you see them kind of dropped back underneath. Keep everything in front. Get into that block of four block of five with three in front of foreign I time. And keep it in front and then kind of place in facilitate from there so Yeah, I think part of it is having to understand your personnel. Because yes, he's a really good piece for a team. If if used in the right way, yeah, I I hadn't even actually really considered the set piece that yeah, it was a really good point. Chuck, because if you look at the own goal I think from Envelope Philo it's. It's a dangerous whipped, involve from Medina and. To. Make Cause Trouble Dempsey Cincinnati six points. We'll hear more about them. Kendall Watson in just a moment might surprise has to be Iowa Canola second. The Golden Boot standings. We've never seen a guy. Fill in for Josie. Since he's been at Toronto FC outside of Puerto as a false nine young guy, five goals is just. It's been every game. It's not just one flash in the PAN. So it's been impressive Chris Mueller right behind him to or golden boots. That's been fun to watch from those two guys as well as have to add. A close second. Oh Man Charlie is DC united. You make. A five plus million dollar player. Look! Like he's never been international. That he's is a rookie Edison Flora's. Is Struggling. To find a ball on this team. Julian gristle. Looks as if he just came out of college, the frustration barely touched the ball barely impacting the game. These are these are big players in the league that have have. Done incredible things with their previous teams Olah over. Kamara is lucky to touch the ball twice in a game. Twice. You have all these attacking pieces of course Lario. Who Will Get up and down? WHO's busy? Who adds a lot to the team? But you still have a lot of pieces to get goal to be on the front foot to get possession in their tacking half the have some ideas. We've seen nothing from DC NOT. At the biggest. Over Red Bull over Atlanta NYC AFC teams I mean so here's Cincinnati biggest surprise. Biggest surprise in the opposite way. It's DC in Atlanta, for me right here. To have an Orlando's another team that's pleasantly surprised. A lot of teams being able to in and and get through the group at who picked Orlando to finish top of the group. You're leading NYC SEE CFC off way too easy. I'm not as disappointments, but we will get there. We are going to break down the. Charlie just had to get a negative void in early sitting on a couple I promise him come later in. The show didn't have DC Pencil Charlie founders space. That's why he's a great striker. Find happens when the centrebacks. It's that negative ball into the top corner I appreciate that before we get to Kendall, Lawson. You have another chance here. Kevin Anderson tweet Atta's last week, he said. Do we all sleep on? Chicago responded zone tweet today. Today texture time and said maybe I spoke too soon Chicago, fire two zero loss of Vancouver. A draw would have gotten them through to the next round. Most likely a one goal loss, which still have gotten through to the next round now Chicago's going Home Ben. Cougar is moving on. We'll talk about their potential match-ups coming forward. Charlie your opportunity to go into another team here. What do you make of Chicago after three games? Just inconsistent a work in progress. Ralph Vicky has the right ideas, but implementing those right ideas with the players that you have is is another thing and I think he's still trying to figure out. Data. It's the first time we've seen him. Get minutes a real minutes today. Resale Pineda is has been stellar since he's come. Come onto the scene so as a great draft. Pick to to have a signing to have Pineda coming out of college but Robert. Shows his capabilities against Seattle and the Golden. In the opening goal. But nothing since. And we just need to see more from Chicago fire. We haven't seen a consistent team I. Know Kaelin loses cargo fire, being one of his former teams and. I just haven't gotten a good sense of of this team. Being really competitive in hitting on all cylinders to challenge in eastern conference yet. I more positive on. A coming out of the tournament and Look I, think they have some nice pieces. There's been so much changes as chuck mentioned, but even look at the change that they've had to face while in this tournament. Right like they came, and they had a game postponed, then got switched groups, then they they go out and have this result in their first match in the toughest game. When the group against Seattle and you think they're in good shape there, but even down today I thought the game was fully under control for them. They had the the dominated possession. Barrett had a good look that you bet on him to finish it. He doesn't take chance there and then they have a freak weather intervention for like an hour in the middle they come out in the dead of heat in the middle of the day and have to restart and credits a Vancouver, because they also face the same thing, and could've just packed it in especially with what they've also gone through in the tournament, and the injury is in the absences, and all that but I think when you you have to factor in some of the. The craziness that went around Chicago at the time, and I think. They proved in the matches that I saw that they do have the pieces they do have some really good personnel I. Don't think it's all meshed together I. Haven't seen Cj really embarrassed combined the way that I think eventually can but I think I come away from Chicago. I know they'll be gutted by the way it all ended, but still some still some positive parts for me from with have been in the past, and where I think Vicki and this group is. Them full. We'll by a former fireplace. While he's still owes Dj. Goes I'm not exactly ungenerous on the. Six percent possession to Chicago twenty five shots today no goals so that wasn't generous to them either, but shut out to Marco Santos and his team. They're missing their DP center forward. They're missing four or five starters back in Vancouver British. Stars. Because I'm not getting juiced. Why how is are we saying? Four or five stars, three or four designing happier only rose starting centerback cavalierly, starting forward does on rickets started up top as well against the galaxy. If Not Fredy Montero would be a starter if those two were out. That's four or five starters. Okay I'll give you three. MAXINE KRIPO. Who was not in this game, but did come to Orlando. Who is probably the Canadian goalkeeper now or after Boris on leave, so boom Charlie thanks for that little bit of help. They're also I messed up. Iowa Nola is tied for the Golden Boot leader, so my surprise as great as well. I'm kind of killing it on all fronts so far throughout this show always to shout out to Marco Santos though forget his team through Vancouver clinch their spot. They are moving on to the knockout stages. They will play either S K or Toronto going forward what? Just, on that Vancouver is going to the knockout stages. Come back baby. act. Unless. All Right? Let's talk to a man who had a pretty good night. Someone who knows exactly how FC Cincinnati got done in the group stage how they can continue doing our at and T. Call to the field. Thank you so much for joining us Kendall Watson as going. There's going well. You know I always say winning. Bring happiness are really happy today. Six points is vida as easy as it gets right well ashore foldout very pulled IV that this moment now we are in the next round where everything's GonNa be harder? So what was last night? Like for you because you know a lot of people outside weren't picking you. You get the win, but you're still in the bubble. What's experienced like? Finish is strange experience because l'estrange feeling because. You know we want to win. We want to continue here on the same time. Family back home wants to see us. So is is strange. You know the feeling because you don't know when you going home on boasting, but at this moment we are sacrificing those things, and and just thinking to perform the best possible and trying to win. and Go ahead you're we know that many people, and and even finds think like okay. Three Games. Cincinati was going back home, but We are still here. Persevering playing well. You say fans and you can also point that at us because I think. A lot of the media didn't expect this coming out of the Columbus game, though a four zero loss. Did you think this was possible? And how? How is it happen? Will I believe strongly in the mentality on the quantity of the players dot. We have we know that well. It was in the best game of ours. So, we just bounce back. We talk in the locker room and with a coaches the other days like watching the videos to see what we was. Makin Ward and bad and tried to address it I think like when we are in the worst shape. Being together organize is when we have more possibilities, you know like locking dial that defensive live with a midfielders being together We feel very comfortable, so we'll try to improve in that way. I think we've got the results you mentioned you got the results. Four goals against against Columbus. You've not conceded now in two games against with a better teams in the eastern conference as a centreback as a guy right at the heart of that and especially with the struggle, sometimes defensively last year. How does it feel around you in the game in those ninety minutes? Yes, it feel Nice. You know when they are thought coming back and they're trying to find any little gap or strength to see how they score on on something you. Did you see their faces that they're getting desperate to just core you NAS quickest possible and Is a nice thing because I enjoyed defending. I love defending so like in this type of games when you have a clean sheet is huge for us. You mentioned it. Yeah, I could see the smile on your face, says Red Bulls kept pouring in crosses, and you kept handing them away. You're playing under one of the greatest centrebacks in the history of the world in ops stop, it's been just about a month or so, but what's it been like as a centre back to work under him is great, because he also you some frustration in on the field. You know depending on where the ball is and give you some other tapes. Of what he gets from his experience as a football player. Playing in? Teams and Obviously like he bring us all the experience saw like. I used to see him when he was in. AC Milana and playing and tackling their one so you bring all those spots of the club as well as a centreback. He doesn't smile as much as you do. As he warmer in person than he looked on TV. Yes? He's wearing a Bertha Even more fuel than on the field. That is very true. Got Lots Smile about right now. Part of that you mentioned that shape. The connections in Midfield Has Been Frankie Maya Caleb Stanko, and an Arizonian in what's it been like to work behind them and how? They've really changed the shape of your midfield? Yes, those guys are running a lot. They are tackling their with avoid us were so they're doing a lot of of the dirty anais work for us in a lot of credit for them as well because you know as I mean fueled their day like to have all the time the vote, but sometimes they understand that. Is Not the moment on this is a moment of fight. Moment the bottle, and and we those about. Like you see something, Franchi he's like four feet. Or for five something like that, and he's jumping against other guys out six five knows all he don't get everybody's fighting under that mentality of the team, a Myers a guy who a lot of people are excited about the goal against Atlanta, but just the way he plays for such a young player. Would have you seen in his development. What do you see as his ceiling? Yeah thing is that he is still improving every day. That would thing is that he's. He has an open mind stole. Learn his like a sponge. You know sponge to try. To retain things to to his benefit, and is the best thing of of him on hopefully he can continue imprint because he's helping us a lot. He's been good on the field. We heard he's in pretty good off the field for the team as well. Your hair is looking pretty clean that Franken. Dress Franchi fades. How much is it to trust him? He's new to the to the barber game. You trust them. I trust him because he he built any mistake. He knows what is going off for. He's given about four feet up to you so i. don't think it'd be fair. In any stage, he's been awesome to watch. He's been fun Yuya. Kubo has well know I was talking to someone and said last year. Even if you guys played this way defensively, maybe didn't have that guy up top who could hit on the counter? Who could score threw himself Kubo's first goal versus the rebels phenomenal individual play. What have you seen from him in training? What can he be mls? Yes, he have a lot of quality. His his think, neak his, she shouldn't. Like his colleague Guy Bought when he has to fight, he was fight and I think like is just being a his adopt into the league. Will you know so I think? Without Games on on I'M GONNA get even better and I think. Not only him like Brandon, when he commend fut- die like all the players that are waiting in this moment that maybe they're not starving. They have a a great thing for the for the team. Because they come fresh, they come to bottle and they come to give another energy that we needed in that moment with some players are tire so I think is a is a complement of everything right now. One of the players who brought energy after that Columbus game is Andrew. Gutman is speed athleticism. What do you make of what he's brought to this team? Yeah. He liked to go forward a lot He's guide. Dot is glue technique us. World saw like everybody's battling. Everybody know that we're fighting for our position as well because We're studying right now, but we know we have other female that are willing to play us was so everybody helped show. It's been a chaotic year and a half at times being an FC Cincinnati now you have this stretch on their yop. STOM-, what is the culture? What is the VIBE WHO IS CINCINNATI? As using societies that club, the or team that is going to fight onto Diane. Struggle a lot specially last year. not winning and being in difficult moments, but even in difficult moments still working and I always believed that sooner or later you'll get your credits. For this team. How far can you go in this competition? US FOR US we want US far of as we fight this for because somebody may may think is, Lux many can think about, but I think the doesn't come if you don't fight for it. And for yourself, this is an odd competition. Of course you mentioned you WanNa go home, you're there. It's a weird time in the world, but I'm curious from your experience. You've been to a World Cup. You've been in Gold Cups. You've been in tournaments like this. What does the experience like been so far? Is. Great is great. You know like fighting them making a lot of surprises, different themes that people didn't expect. They was going to qualify quantifying. Free themes are going home, so he's. Is Interesting tournament at the moment so. Now does like I'm just focusing like okay. We got to see against. We're GONNA play ball. doesn't matter who gonNA play. We just hustle. Keep with the same month. Lydia embiid stronger. I WanNa ask you off the field coming into this competition huge talk around systemic racism and police violence in the United States and of course all of the. Protests that have been going on around the country and one of the big things was the black players for change in major league soccer coming together I. You're the loan foreign born player on the board. How did that come about? And what does that mean to you? Guys Look. To be honest. I'm representing like the locking players. Though like so I can speak with. The, with the Latin players are swirling about different things about the collision how we are working on making different things what it is about and represent the love because. Even that I didn't born in the USA I've been in difficult. Moments in my life. Of Racism. You know so I know what it feels like. I just want a better future for my son for the new juror generation even for us on this moment, so like We are fighting like how just? That, he's the head of of this. we're talking about like different type of thing that we want `specially in the MLS to have I'm more of our blood. People involving in look. In just make an equal. I'm curious for you know. We've spent a Lotta of time as a white person in America especially over the last few weeks, learning about the black experience in the united. States, what is race? What are the conversations around? What's the experience in Costa Rica? What's it like being black? And Costa Rica Yeah I like I'm from a car from the Caribbean where the majority of people is so like when I was fifteen years old and help my first experience to go to the capital. To live by myself like I start to experience it there. Because that majority of the people wasn't Blah, you know so at that. Moment was even more like people that they see you. The typical that you walk in the sidewall conde see us of this switched because they feel that fear. we don't have that police brutality, but we have that. Okay. They see you know car. Okay, they stop you begun. Maybe they think you are a drug dealer or something like duck. Also there's different type of solution, but at the same thing. As an outsider looking in at the US, and as you've said now experiencing it both in Vancouver in Canada and in Cincinnati. What do you hope for? What do you see? Potential changes to to our problems. Yes I think is everything. Start from respect. Respect for each other. It doesn't matter if I don't have the same understanding or the same way of viewing things as you. But if I just respect you, we of voice, so many things you know, we can avoid many things and hopefully discount discount make a change. is almost really hiring possible to have a change from. Next Day. You know highly little change. Go make a big difference for the for the future. We hope for a better future. We are glad to see you. Do your thing out on the field. 'CAUSE can lawson's happy and smiling I love interviewing you I, love having you all and FC Cincinnati is fun to watch so point of view to continue enjoying that in the next round and thanks so much for joining us always learn for the I'm always here. Open those You always happy, thank you. Pleasure. FC Cincinnati, but I've viewed I right now. They are living life for a franchise that hasn't had the best existence in a short time in major league soccer, a new manager, a big name in Yop stom- couple designated players that they brought in playing well, `specially Kubo and Kendall Lawson enjoying his time with FC Cincinnati as they prepare for the knockout stage because we are into the round of sixteen. Let's start breaking down guys. It starts Saturday July, twenty fifth. Eight PM EASTERN TIME ON ESPN two and T. S. N.. ORLANDO, city one of the pleasant surprises so far winning their group in their Melas back tournament down in Orlando. They will host Montreal. who had looked like was out up until the funds few moments of their last game and we've got Patrick Dubs on twitter. WHO SAYS IF? If Impact Montreal has shot going deep in this journey. What do you think they need to do? And what do you do? With John Charlie you've seen. This team called one of their games against the ravs. What are the opportunities here for Montreal? I think they have a good shot. I think it's all about building off of playing with Rommel Kyoto into space. Boy On fire got an assist. Maybe this is what gets him going because for much all to continue to have success and win games, then he would be a difference maker and we haven't seen much of him. He hasn't been as aggressive as we all hoped. He hasn't been as creative in the final third as much show. meet him to be so now after this assist after getting out of the group when it seemed unlikely. Hopefully, this is the. The boost the motivation to start playing the way Kyrie to play and be a little bit more aggressive when they do have the ball now when they don't have the ball, Tyrian Ronson defend, and he was numbers behind the ball, and sometimes. That's why people say. Oh, they're have five in the back. It's more like a five four one, but. it's all about situational play in the game. When you have possession. He wants ideas. He wants people going forward and when you don't have the ball. That's the reaction he wants. He wants everyone to get behind the bond. Defend as a team, so this Montreal team when you think about what Cincinnati has been able to do. Read Tom's to being defensive. Being in the defensive blocks sticking together being compact. Montreal can do that now, can you, can you? Can you have a little bit more in the final third? Can you be a little bit more proactive, and can you boy on be the connector between Romo Kyoto and and goals? Gaylon on the flip side for Orlando. I mean it was an awesome group stage for them. They're on a high, but they've had to wait a little bit to get going once again. Can they? Can they continue? Let's look specifically at Montreal. Does it fit what they WANNA do and they can they continue going forward. Yeah I think so I think. Orlando will be the favorite in this match they have so much momentum going throughout and finished top of the group my thought the the thing that I like about this Orlando side, and this is something you would never say about them in the past is. I think they are mentally tough, and if you look at the way that they have long games, the Games has been late. Games where they've been able to find results, and then even in the past in. You'd always look at Orlando and you'd say oh well, something goes wrong, and here we go again would be the I thought. You would have, and there's been such a shift now. Where philly comes down in scores and a couple minutes they come back and respond and get the gold back so I think that's a huge different that. Difference that they've had a little bit of belief and then the consistency of wide play. I think in this tournament. We have seen. I think why why play and speed has been kind of the more consistent forms of success that I've seen determines whether short Morris Lender. It's at least whether it is real. See some of these guys bit across the League those. That's been a formula for success and when I look at Montreal. I liked the way cherry. Has has built a foundation there, but when it's whether it's boy, honor Keel to it's it's a little bit inconsistent for me as far as knowing what I know. WHO's going to show up where I know which? Side of the coin. That's GonNa that's GONNA turn whereas with Orlando I. Don't question that because I see. Nancy Cash Mueller on the other side so I I think it's GonNa. Be Tight match, but I think Orlando would be. They should feel good about the chances going in. Putting it down in ink. Kaelin's picking Orlando Don locked in Charlie. You gotta give a big as well. I'll do it as well. I'm going to go Montreal. I'M GONNA. Go with the. I think. They got a little bit of hope now coming out of the group. They didn't expect it. I don't believe they feel like now. Let's take a step in the right direction. We got our result got through. We got through the group stage now. This is a team that is right for the picking because Orlando. They're not gonNA. Put you away. They're not going to beat four zero. They're not going to score three four goals shutdown noni. and. That's the key. If you shut down, not you give yourself an opportunity, because not only is the playmaker. Everything runs through Noni. If they can do that that they'll stand a good chance to get a result in this match. The key for Montreal for me. I think is tied Air I think when I looked at those pieces, and some of them are inconsistent the one that I. Feel like I can fully count on his tied air and I know you had the the long shot that took deflection, but he he has been kind of the one piece that connects them from. Being sounded sensitive to being able to get out and hurt teams, and behind I think he'll be for me at the player watch. Okay well I'M GONNA go with Orlando I think that it's hard to pick against a team that has confidence in form right now. You mentioned they're not going to score a lot, but they scored three against. Billy wasn't sorry. NYC AFC they scored against Miami so they put some goals in and shields like for Montreal. It's going to be a struggle to get goals, but this is a fascinating game to start with, because you kind of get out of the groups age. You feel like you've learned a lot about these teams, but then you still look at how close a lot of the teams in MLS are that goes to our next game on Saturday night, which is ten thirty PM. Eastern time on ESPN anti Philadelphia Union against New England Revolution. Can we find on the Radio Anywhere Charlie? You can you can Sirius Xm Ninety, eight five the sports hub who? You know the hard. This is an interesting game. I know both teams extremely well. New England has played. The second half against he of see they were they. Chris Patten. They dominated possession. They put Toronto on their heels. Very unlucky number grab a goal income away with three points. The second game against DC was they were flat. still created enough chances to get get a result to to get. The three points didn't do it in their first game against Montreal. All over Montreal couldn't Fitch. This is the story learn in groups agents. Can you score? You Have Adam Booster? You Have Gustavo Bow. These guys can score goals you. Brought it. To be that guy who's GonNa Finish all the chances and then call us. He'll the question mark with Carlos. He's had this foot injury. Easy going to be okay for this match because he's difference maker, he's the best eleven players one of the best midfielders in league. He's in the same caliber as a nickel, Darrow and L. Hundred slow what he does for the team controls the tempo set pieces. finds those those soft spots in the defense between the lines. They need him on the field to have real success, but they did show. There's a there's A. There's a small flash with diego wounded in that second half that he can fulfil the role needed to have to get winds to create goals so. They're gonNA need it's GonNa come down to the midfield battle with Philadelphia Union because you have Algebra door have brandon aaronson. You have Jose Martinez in the new sitting midfielder. Who's been stellar I think when he's played just a little bit of a hot head, but I think that'll calm when he adjust to the the the level of the League and. Changing. That's not going anywhere. I think you'll get you. Montero. They have. Engines in midfield, and it's all about second ball's 'cause. filial concede possession. It's all about the transition game, and if you can hit philly and finish if Andrei. Blake's not on his game. They're very very vulnerable. To the attack so. This game has to be close to comes I believe. That sounds inbetween at. New, England come on Chuck now. You want to go that way. If I. IF I had to choose I'm going to go New England I. DO think I do think they have enough to win. Yeah I'm going to go the other way. This is working out this. I mean look. It's. It's better if we disagree, but we I think. The question marks around Carla Hill would worry me. and I think he has been such an important player for them to be able to create opportunities, because otherwise I think a lot of it does just fall on Kosovo and if you only have to game plan for one it's it's a different calculation and I think that the depth and the wealth of options from Philadelphia to me, I think puts them over the top. and. If you're GonNa talk about Andre Blake. He's been the best goalkeeper in the tournament so far he has been fantastic. Who else you got up there. Though somebody else out there. Turner's been right there with them. The funny thing about that. Turner also has been getting interest from European suitors because he just recently acquired Lithuanian passport so. Waimea yes so now. Now or or motivation to play at a higher level, knowing that there's all these European clubs sifting around. Yeah, well, that's that's actually not surprising. He had I, I think Matt Turner is the name that we too often forget as far as a guy should be mentioned around the top of the League but. I still think nice. Blend of youth and experience between Philadelphia Brandon Aaronson as I think you know fantastic player, and has been increasingly more involved, but sometimes that youth really helped especially in a tournament like this where it's like you know these guys aren't that far away from playing nine am game. Growing up, and I just think like that energy has really lifted them at times, and you look at that Philadelphia team at I. Think they have a lot of energy overall. They haven't put together a good a good ninety minutes of full ninety minutes performance yet, but they've still been able to. Success Yeah and I think that that is a good rest, a good place to be in a couple of other teams like that Toronto out save been in that same boat as well. We're. Just, you know haven't had all their pieces back. Even we haven't really seen what that team looks like with two has their pieces, but we just haven't seen them really connecting Gel on one moment, so I think that's a worrying sign for other teams and I'm still. Going into the tournaments. I said. PHILLIES UP PLAYING WELL THEY'RE getting results, although they didn't against Orlando and I think they're trending in the wrong direction heading into a new England side whose trending in the right direction now if Carl, thiel is on the field. Does that change your mind at all? Yeah definitely I think it would definitely. change in as far as changes the equation but I'm not. I'm not leaving, but Charlie I. IT sounds like he won't be and if he is. How healthy is! Because if that's the other part if he's playing. He'll be enough to change the game if he's on. The Field Kazakh out there and hobble because that would take away from. The play of our New England revolution in covering the ground that you need to when you're planning against Philadelphia Union side. It would just be mental so i. don't see him playing if he can't contribute if he can play by man's going to. What was Serena's? They said he's wearing a boot, so it can't be good. Exactly, but would you choose your youth over experience? Are you a? I think I liked the blend, but nice by like a little bit of both so I agree with you Kaylynn, but also philly one in the playoffs last year, and they've gotten performances without playing well, which is a veteran thing to do in this tournament so far, so yes, they're young. soukup, Gothenburg. Yeah, they're young, but they've shown that they can handle themselves in big moments. I mean that wasn't a clean performance against the rebels last year in the playoffs, but they were able to get through it and get over that hill. Am I Is Young Brennan Aaronson is not young like this guy has been matches the of consequence in had a ton of minutes already under his belt gone against Red Bulls in the playoffs and same with Mark McKenzie. These guys have been kind of bloodied already in and have a lot of experience under the which is kind of the testament of this trust, the process over years in. I think we've steam that continue to grow in their results year after year after year. But I I think they need to put it together and to. But I. Don't think they're trending in the wrong way. Intriguing match of the first round. Knock I like this one I think. Excuse tops records two goalkeepers as well like we mentioned very even there. So, but yeah, that's that's where I go down to depth, and that's right I. Think Philly maybe takes. We'll senior off the bench, so we've got affiliate pick. We've got a REV SPIC. I'm fascinated to see. This revs back line. Especially, the centrebacks because Aaronson doesn't play traditional. He likes to Float Wide Alexa get on the side of the box you know, but joy can then come inside and create different overloads different spaces so I think philly wins this game. I'M GONNA. Go with Jalen. Once again Charlie, you are on your own today. You're living on an island. A and it's a beautiful island. Sweeter when you're right twice. When you need me to dock your boat, okay honesty with chuck's wine selection, and and being out at at the Cape like. I might sign up for whatever is going on over there. Jack Sparrow Situation Capri. The company, but you might WanNa. Rethink that we're going to text last night. Girlfriend from the other room. That says Charlie inspired me. Can you open a bottle of red wine? This Chinese how you're doing his thing I. Don't have a wholesaler though Charlie so is a big deal for me to open one those. Those games Saturday eight PM and ten thirty PM eastern time great weekend of soccer remove into Sunday a little bit later on the Times. You've got Toronto FC kicking off at eight thirty PM, eastern time on F S One and Tsn. We are still waiting to learn who they will play. Houston wins tonight against. Dalla Galaxy. Then Vancouver will play Toronto FC if Houston ties. OR LOSES IN LA Galaxy. Don't win five, zero or six zero. It'll be against NYC AFC. which I think is a massive difference between opponent but Charlie. I want to start with Toronto specifically and just say we saw Josie outdoor. Come off the bench in the final game of the groups age first time he's appeared one. What the expectations of how much we see him and then to the Golden Boot leader Iowa Canola has laid that center forward spot. Can they play together? Do they even try to put them together? How does he have see? Make this all fit. Well one I've told Josie after the game. Whatever. He's not whatever weight lifting program all he's on. He's looking like Maria do like. He's been doing to many curls too many. Too many too many too much enterprising. He looked huge top. I don't know WHO's trying to compete with him in a fifty fifty challenge or trying to you know, try back into. Happen the quarantine in Florida Charlie. He needs that South beach by. He was doing too many PUSHUPS I. In his lay off the purchase. To. I really liked the combination play between the two because Josie wildlife in with Josie. Is a player who can take up to under bax with his strength alone is hold up play. And then he allows ill. When when you make your run, he will find you because he allows you your run to develop with the time. He takes up the ball, and then he play, he could play you in behind, and he's great at Linka plays great recombining and you throw. It was well. Oh, a playmaker can find both of you. It's dangerous trio and I hope. Greg Vanney fines away the all three of them together on the field, the same time because that will be very difficult offense to stop because you have. Both players who can and I, O can hold up the bomb. Self you throw that integrate into. Ball laid off for Pozzuoli who can play Josie. WHO LOVES TO FLOAT OFF THE BACK SHOULDER? It's a dynamic attack and it does bring back some of Josie any I know. mattdoyle tweeted that up, but I oh needs to be a better finish with his left foot. Because right now. I think you're gonNA, start seeing defenders shifting to his left enforce. has foot because it hasn't cleaned. It hasn't looked sharp when it comes to right obviously. That's dominant foot. He puts it on target. He finds the back of the net on his left foot pulled so. As of now I think we're going to start to see a shift in how teams play Nola. Always forcing them to his left foot, left foot and see if you can up into being cleaned finish with his left foot. I gotTa send him a highlight of a goal from. A two thousand nine. My man laughed. Is Still Gets Ryan curls to the far post. Thank you log in the corner. Can't we can't hold them down? I thought he should've in that moment he has, he has the pace, and and I think just the understanding of get stuck underneath them, but if you're making that run, Allah Charlie Davies down that left flank, and you're able to kind of cut it across and just set it up on that right foot. I thought that was a an option that he should have taken touched. Kinda got tons of Nathan. And I wanted to bring up though 'cause Charlie mentioned Buffalo, and we're so excited about Finola, but we had an unknown texter bill free to put your name where where you're coming from our nickname, whatever so that we can put it in the show who said how good has? Been, that was a huge part Pablo potty coming in as DP, complete unknown. Has Been Injured for about two years and it was kind of a flyer. He needs to get his career back on track. Toronto felt like they were only a piece away from getting over the top after getting MOLEST Cup last year and Ben is wasn't gonNA. Come back, and they seem to be on the same wavelength, and that is another part of canola. Success has been the creativity of Yati and puzzle. Yeah I think the audience look good in in a moment's. He's. He's got a little bit of I. It's not like over long distances, but he's got a change of pace. And you can see the quality of the left foot, but was way low has really been the story I mean. I think he has an assist vs five assists Now he had he had five at least at five of the six I don't know where it stands now, but. He's been fantastic. I mean the the way he connects with all. The just the kind of understanding just puts the ball in the right place. And he makes it look easy, so yeah, when you're when I os had success right, but a lot of that has come from just. Just, quality service just putting guys in good spots where the run is recognized, number one and put writing the time right time and right place so we've seen that before with his connection with outdoor and how good they've been so. I agree like like Chuck says you add three of those guys to the mix and I think I'll while he while he is truly capable of coming back and checking to the ball I, think he prefers to check and go i. think that's kind of what he's looking to do and set you up where sometimes I think Josie. Not always looking to get in behind think, he's just ready to back down. Drop off Craig little, space. And I agree underrated passer I think he has been under in passer for a long time. Just you know the understanding intelligence first time ball. He's got the little lift. You can curl it over the the centrebacks Ed, and you see those moving pieces starting to move around each other I think that kid they could make some. Defenders Dizzy. I just want to add. peyote is a huge upgrade over Benazir. I mean just we've only seen a small sample size of what he can do so this is not a player who's inform and putting his highest level. He's getting there. And that's gotta be supercharging. PFC Players and the Front Office Ali courtesy. Say. In selecting Fiat, because he does have that burst of speed he can, he can change the game he can finish. She can get behind defenders and won't be one situations, and if you create others, you throw him Piazzi swallow Nola. Door? I by that's that's the thing that stands out is just when you look at when Victor Vazquez was there and you couldn't purely focused on Josie what he in Japan could do, and now you're starting to get in a world where if BIAGGI can performance right? We haven't even seen Jonathan Osorio in this tournament. WHO's hurt? Josie is only played four minutes. This could START TO BE A. A Dangerous C. team as I said they will face off against either NYC AFC Vancouver, so Canadian rival or an Eastern Conference Rydell rival. It should be fun either way. The other game on Sunday will be says Casey verse, and then still an opening. IT'LL BE HOUSTON HOUSTON WINS and gets through otherwise it'll be Vancouver that'll be eleven pm. Eastern time on F S One and tsn. A lot of question marks still around this S K C team. Kaelin car is going to fall out on me in a little bit so I want to get him in here. He's going. Zero. Battery were living on the one percent life. Right? How Kaelin Chris Casey? They get the result. They need an early goal in the final group stage game. Get them started. There's probably one of the better nine am games. We've seen just in terms of tenacity in the pop. There will be no more nine am games so everyone. Unfortunately. I enjoyed it, but I understand. The players didn't as much so big. It's a play late at night under the lights as Charlie likes, Caitlin, going into a knockout game whether it's Houston or Vancouver case he's GonNa be favorites Do you like where they're at going into the knockouts? I do and I. Think Peter. Vermes is underplaying his hand. I heard him come out and say that he San Jose should be the favorite for the tournament I think I think he's intentionally leaving the sporting. Kansas City team a little bit under the radar and I think if it wasn't for the red card to to Melia this team would be talked about more as far as favorites in the group that was kind of the up on the radar and but I mean look at all does well he's. He has been good, but I think he's actually I'm guessing because he's been great, but I think he actually has room to be better. I think he can he? You know he's got one goal, but I think there's more. There's a ton more in him. And he's supercharged that lineup because when you look on the wings, they've always had danger there. You look at Johnny Russell and then Kyrie's Shelton who has come back in you know, and he's smashing volleys with his left foot to you. Don't far post and. Always going to have that sort of pace to cause trouble in behind, but Police does the one that's changed the picture for me as far as may taking this team from a team that is always dangerous and always going to be tough to play against, but to a team with a number nine. That's I think one of the top five strikers in the league and can really hurt team. So I think they may be underplayed it. Nobody is really talking about them. Enough. but I think that they're a team that. Has a chance to to really go deep. While Charlie we don't know who they're going to match up against either Houston or Vancouver. It's going to be the same game state, right? They're both GONNA. Sit Deep. Casey loves to possess the ball. They're going to get suzy high up the field. They're going to get more than feel either way. This seems to fit in for Casey. They're going to be vulnerable on the counter. 'cause they have been all tournament. Houston can hit you that way. Vancouver's done it as well, but it just seems like it sets up with either team as a good matchup for Casey. It doesn't and one flirts really impressed me. from in Kenzees Kyrie Shelton. and. I guess you saw what he could do with new. York City. And then he left, and then went to Casey and then he left for. Since. He's come back. He looks like a more mature player who looks like he knows how to have. Success has runs have been phenomenal. He's got great pace. I think that the intellect of the game is tactical. Awareness has been spot on. Still I think the fishing product can be a little bit better, but it's improved tremendously I think he adds a lot to this sporting kency side because he can stretch defenses, he can cover back. He can recover. and He's good on the ball. He he's calling the ball. I think is touch I touched gotten better. He's added a lot to the city attack but a dimension. They didn't have prior to him coming back so. I think he's been a pleasant surprise for me from sporting can seaside, and it's all about adjusting to Palijo how he plays how he how he runs where he likes to get the ball. Tendencies and I think that the team is is kind of taken to him earlier than I thought but he is a quality player This is a player who who's comfortable on the ball. When he gets his chance, he will finish usually technique But there too up and down for me right now. Defensively stock consistent. They're not i. can't you know what I know I'm going to get from Sporting Kimsey like they were in two thousand thirteen. You Know Ari Colin Map as ler. They're GONNA kick you. They want checks one drops. They're on the same together. They're just knew what you're going to get from them every single match now. I'm not sure I'm going to get. Are they going to allow runners to go by someone? Get pulled out a space. We still see that too often maybe not as bad as it was last year, but still nowhere nowhere close to where it needs to be for them to be considered a top team in the western conference. It'll be interesting to see in the winner of this match for KC verse, Whoever will play the winner of the revs versa. philly matchup, so that should be interesting to see on the Toronto side Bans Com. They are on the same side of the bracket of Seattle sounders, they cannot they seattle and another final with an MLS name on it, at least not yet in twenty twenty, but that could be a semi-final. What do you guys think of going forward? What do you guys think about that? Part of me is Kinda like. I was I thought like all right. I'm still. Thinking East less so. If I'm if I'm liking the idea that like if I. Go to the final. They gotTA beat L.. AFC or they gotta be Seattle or weakness. I love the idea that it could be Toronto L. AFC in a quarterfinal, and then one of those teams potentially playing Seattle in semi fun. Toronto Play L. AFC and Seattle just to get to a final. That'd be pretty wild, although we know have seasons is going to be all those teams, so I shouldn't have even brought it up that way. Let's move into Monday. Which of course we are on Monday, but we don't always give you enough time to preview, so we're GonNa hit these now we start out at eight thirty PM eastern time F S one in tsn San Jose against. You guys I gotTa admit. Freddy Juarez Fan I liked his real monarch seems but I've liked what I've seen so far with our resolve this competition Charlie. Do they have an opportunity to knock off? San Jose to have an opportunity to go far. They do one player that has been stellar is Aaron Herrera. At right back. Gregor, alter calling Gregg Berhalter yes, easily his skill on the ball. He can defend, but what's more impressive as which every coach loves an attacking right back WHO's comfortable on the ball and possession. Allah US national team with Gregg Berhalter, Watson write-backs, someone who can control the ball. WHO's not afraid to be on the ball in his comfortable? That's Aaron Herrera plus he has a good final ball. He is good delivery. He really impressed me in this last batch, and I see them coming down the right flank and trying to provide service. The question for our sal is who's going to score the goals. Who's going to be is? Is it Sam Johnston is? We, don't know album. Snack is supposedly going to be okay to get back for the knockout rounds, but that's yet to be seen. This oursel- team. You just don't know what you're going to get going forward. You know what they're going to defend. They're gonNA work hard back. Men's as good as leader as you can have in this league twenty one seasons as a professional But they're lacking that killer instinct. They don't have that plastic. You know what I'm GonNa. Put My team on my back. I'm going to score wolves. Feed me the ball. They don't have that they've had structured defensively. Casey was the first game they conceded off a corner kick a few seconds, and then they were able to get the equaliser, but they continue to put together opportunities throughout that first half on the flipside. Kaelin your San Jose earthquakes. This is the squad you said you were going to ride to the end of this competition outside of Philly, so we know you're very excited about this one. How to San Jose matchup against Oursel-. To. Can we just start with that? Because at be getting a lot of grief on on twitter for not believing in San, Jose? It's not that I. Don't believe in San Jose I. have and it doesn't even matter what I think. These guys have done a great job. They finished up the group and it's been well deserved. They have a lot of momentum I. think they're the favorites in this match? I think pretty clear favorites against ourselves. especially, if ru snack is not able to play, which I think is in serious question. And, but this Salt Lake Team is tough and they think they've proven in knockout. Competition that they generally step up to the plate and I think bars has done a good job. Especially organizing defensively I think San. Jose's mobility will cause trouble for for Real Salt Lake. I think they're a really dynamic athletic team. They have a ton of depth that used to their advantage throughout the tournament and they've got. They've got some spirit in the group that I think is. You really can't underway. They love. They love playing for almaeda. They believe in the system, but the parts were actually questioned it. It's it was yeah. You sent ten men up on Warner care. In the twentieth minute, and you've made it much harder on yourself and. Then I think you need a to, but hey look. It doesn't matter what I say. Because when we had Shea Salinas on, he says a made of actors. That's the way we play. We're okay with that risk. It's acceptable risk, and I guess why is it okay when Bob? Bradley says this is acceptable risk, but it's not okay when San Jose does so i. think that's just the they're gonNA play Roy Moore's supporters. Shield Well. Yeah, that's. And when you have some of the other weapons around it, yeah. I'm I'm trying to come around to it, I just that's not acceptable risk for me. If I were playing on the team, I'll be curious if I was like, why are we? Why are we taking this risk? But Hey, that's the way they want to do it and it's working for them, so I think they have a ton momentum going for it. They deserve to be top of the group, and they are clear favourite against real salt lake. So I I think there should win smash, so you're putting your name on that. San Jose for sure. Charlie taking San Jose. I'm taking those as well. Interesting Jackson you will enjoy have been Incredible midfielders when it comes to really going box to box being involved, Houston does all the hard work in trying to recover while as as Jackson you'll get on the ball and distributes. They'd have good chemistry in the midfield and up top has been. Kind of an experiment whether it's in a reloads whether it's Chris. WanNa Lasky. To win this game I. Think they have I. think they're well situated to. Be On the front witness game push ourselves. I don't think oursel- is. Is is as dangerous. As to win this game. Jalen really meant it when he said he's leaving me and guns Charlie Island. I am picking ourselves for this on I. Think one of the things about San Jose that hurts scenes. As they changed their own shape in the things they want to do because they're thrown off by what. San Jose does anytime you watch the team play? San Jose centreback realizes they've got space, and they dribble up to the posing eighteen and then freeze. That means that team has lost because they're lost in their own shape mark did that for Seattle. We saw ten teams. Do it last year against San. Jose I think that this is A. Team, that believes in what Freddy Juarez does. They're gonNA be structured defensively. They like to move that front three around a lot anyway, so they're going to be able to pick up spots and find the game. I think they're going to bring toy inside a little. Let Harare play high up the field like he has when they've been good whether it's snack or not I think this is an oursel- team that's knocking to lose who they are, even though they're a little, confused or thrown off by the risks at San. Jose takes, and I think they have enough to get through, so I am picking Oursel-. Killers dumbfounded. Or. Does this man saying? Port. Against San Jose Pick. Out Pick against the reason why question about San Jose's. We're talking about that element of risk right and if they want to go and just go play that style the way they do eventually you're gonNA. Come against a team like another of C or even I think a Houston or teams that have like real weapons on the wings that are going to leave. You exposed sand we see. Sorry. I don't think ourselves team though I don't think they're that team. Where your you know, they're that team. That's going to be able to go out and really capitalize on the on the risks that. So I disagree and say this if they're gonNA throw ten men up for a corner kick. beat themselves over the course of ninety minutes. Once lease if you don't do it I. That's the difference that I see against San Jose. SAN JOSE IS GONNA. Throw a bunch of stuff against the wall. Take risks do weird things. That's GONNA leave an opening for you. If you take advantage and Vancouver dead couvert just then didn't have the structure or the stability to hold it so. You're saying Corey. Is the key for our so I. Think I the I don't think there is a key. I think that all of those pieces what when they've Been Good Aka verse. Colorado inverse red. Bull and before we went on break, everyone was good. Everyone was on. Everyone was connecting. They have a fluidity to the way they play. Everton glad he's got us. Everyone's got structure till Wando and Shea Salinas come on and this punchier face. Leo Salinas is a worry. Early ever! Everton Louise's has been host employees. He has been phenomenal. WHO's been? Everton's been great, but I got to differentiate myself from Kaelin. Somehow otherwise I'm just Kaelin to on this show. I got reasons I believe. Where here for our S. L. or I respect. Your thoughts banks you but. It's. The final game that Monday Nights GonNa be Eleven PM. Eastern time Seattle against either Portland or LLC based of the results coming later tonight on F s one or tsn delicious. You got a rematch of last year's Western Conference Finals Against L. AFC. Playoff series we've ever seen, or you've got or liver Seattle I. Don't really have to say much more for you. Eight knockout competition you CASCADIA knockout first round. Let's go. Okay. I want to Seattle. L. AFC REMATCH So now we've got now. You guys are on the different side of which aim you WanNa, see, let alone which winner Let's start here Kaylin. You are so high on Seattle you put them in there and your top five from the group stage. You are sold. You're getting. Blowback blowback on that as well. What have you seen from Seattle? Well I didn't I didn't say the top five performances from the group stage. I said I'm alas as yesterday you said. Before. I ever GonNa win that there were the best team, so I was asked in the group of pick five teams that I can win. MLS is back tournament. and. I think if you're looking at. To put to not include Seattle in the top five would just be a historical said it's it doesn't make any sense and I think people are going to say okay well. They haven't had a good first round in the they kind of looked lifeless at times, but That's over now, so everyone's gonNA write off Seattle and say that they don't have the experience that the defending champs and for me. The game that they struggled in the mosques was the Chicago match and Jordan. Morris was wrested from that one. Because he was I think cramping from the first match, and so they are a little bit safe with him, but when you see in game three against Vancouver how turbo charges that team it's a completely different picture, because then if you check to. Yes, and you play tight on him, which we saw, and he lays it off, and then it goes to the Darrow. Then next thing you know it's going over the top and you've got Jordan Morris barreling down, so I think this team their experience. I think we're going to grow into the tournament. They know what it is in a knockout round. They know what it's like to plan these types of environments. Maybe. Not In that heat and humidity I I do think some team struggle more than others and Seattle I. Don't think historically has done very well in that type of climate Gla. I think that experience for me is the reason why I people are quick to write them often just I don't understand why everyone keep doing that, and now I'm the one taking heat on twitter for putting them in my top five teams I. Think can win MLS. Got Are win. Win Mls facts. Kaelin, don't let the haters get you. Don't listen to them. It's just noise. It's not real. It's not real at all well. We've got a lot to look forward to whatever they. The matchup is whether it's Seattle L. AFC or Seattle Portland. It's going to be delicious in that game on Thursday nights, GonNa be awesome as well. That's our picks for what we know so far. We already have locked in Minnesota Columbus next Tuesday eight PM Eastern time. As one of the match ups and waiting to see L. AFC are Portland. Playing Against Kendall Austin FC Cincinnati Right. After that AH ten thirty PM eastern time, so we'll preview those for you on Monday. We've got some incredible mailbag coming as well that we're GONNA. Get you there before we go away. Though we have a new name and a new crest, Major League Soccer Charlotte FC announcing their name, revealing their crest on a Wednesday July, Twenty Second Charlie you chatted with their President Tom Glick. Give us a little bit of the lowdown. They always knew that Charlotte F.. C. was going to be the name just because once they did. Submit eight names for the fans to vote on. That was the overwhelming favourite. and. He's well situated to to have success from from the start just. With his experience with New York City Football Club. And what that took to be successful he said mass them. What's the game plan as far as DP? Everyone wants to know the clubs motivation around designated players. Are they looking to spend on a on the big names in the game? Kind of what new? York City Football Club a group did. To start mls when they brought in Lampard pure low end. Via will. He said it's more of a mix. We're not going to commit to to just youngsters. You're not gonNA commit to. The big names I think it's gotta be a blend which I thought was. The best answer he could've could've given me so I think overall. They get an extra year to prepare. He said they would have been ready for twenty twenty one, but now an extra year to prepare. He feels very confident that they're going to have all their ducks in a row that they're going to be ready to hit the ground running and have that foundation needed to have success. Right off the GECKO and I said. Are you speaking to any united when you talk about new clubs? Coming in and having success? He said I'm very close with Darren eales and Tom Penn familiar see. He's had a lot of conversations with them about what has worked for them. What hasn't I said well? What else do you need when you have some of the best clubs? And he said Seattle sounders is another club. He really. Values how they have gone about their business, and how they've had so much success. Come into a Milan That's doesn't club, but he admires so. He's GonNa Week to use all the inspiration. He can to make Charlotte F.. the best that they can possibly be looking forward to twenty twenty, two of course Austin, coming online in twenty, twenty one and then twenty twenty three. Now we've got Sacramento and another MLS team in a city that Oh Saint Louis. That was the name that I couldn't remember there. You go last one close out on. Jalen David, Wright in Tennessee says the best thing about the Columbus Atlanta match spotting Frankie Hejduk on the fan board which the broadcast I've been putting off, so you can get on there. If you tweet but out your video, dude is always also. My wanted an episode of extra time devoted entirely to frankie stories. I think we all agree right. Yes, one hundred percent, so let's that Frankie Hejduk love in there. We've got the knockouts coming up. The group stages complete MLS is back. It's going to be an interesting wrinkle in the. The stories that we tell of mls going forward and still a lot to be determined. WHO's GonNa? Take that CC L. Spot. WHO's GonNa? Get the money and WHO's GonNa. Win It all. It's going to be exciting to watch. We will be back on Monday, and of course you can see these two on mls today on Saturday on twitter or Malaga Dot Com right before the kick-off Sunday. As well you've got your pre-game got back to back games. Your weekend is set. You are welcome. ENJOY IT! Thanks so much for listening aggregrates. Blue.

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