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'We haven't learned': Grocery workers face new challenges as Covid worsens, pandemic fatigue sets in
"Workers facing new challenges is the covert pandemic worsens? Pandemic fatigue is now starting to set in. Yeah, I can only imagine. Grocery workers say they're facing health risk. New challenges is this pandemic intensifies in some parts of the country, but extra pay has not returned. Some of that extra pay has fizzled away. Least 350. Members of United Food and Commercial Workers International Union have died from covert 19. But that does not include the impact on non union retailers like Amazon and Wal Mart, according to the CNBC story here. Now. Janet Wainwright, a five year employee with Kroger works out of Virginia says If you want to know one reason why this pandemic is getting worse, it's very simple. We haven't learned we haven't changed. I don't know about you, but I'm wearing a mask and keeping distance of a team player. I'm not
COVID-19 cases in U.S. surge to another record high
"Has hit a record high of covert cases. Five times. Top infectious disease experts have been meeting virtually to discuss a course of action. Dr Anthony Fauci as the cooler weather came in, and college students came back on, people did more things indoor. We had another surge both in cases and hospitalizations, which has now Approached 100,000 per day grocery chains like Kroger once again, limiting the number of items like disinfecting wipes People could get the nation's
"kroger" Discussed on The Indigo Podcast
"All right so today. Our guest is john kroger and we'll be talking about an array of topics including the importance of learning and education for national security the future of higher education and supporting human thriving in society at large. That's right chris. We're just so thrilled to have john kroger with us today. So let me introduce him. But i can really only kinda hit. The highlights given his depth of experience so john kroger currently serves as a vice president at the aspen institute he previously served as the inaugural chief learning officer of the united states navy and marine corps providing oversight for all education institutions and programs for more than nine hundred thousand civilian and military personnel with a budget of more than one point seven billion dollars before that he served as the president of reed college. The attorney general of organ assistant. Us attorney and in several roles as a policy analyst and legislative assistant he also in uniform as a us marine after which. He earned his bachelor's and master's degrees in philosophy at yale university and his law degree from harvard university. So john formerly. I want to welcome you to the nego- podcast. Thank you said scraped to join you. This morning wonderful yes. John is a giant wait. We could spend the our podcast just going over his feats general awesomeness that he sat over his life. I want to get some knowledge from them. That's right so maybe we start with this idea of the importance of learning and education for national security. So you know maybe before we get to deepen that. I look like the no. Just why did you join the marines in the first place so i enlisted in brains on my seventeenth birthday Way back in The early nineteen eighties and for me. It was a decision that probably looks like the decision of a lot of people Thinking about the armed forces. I ultimately wanted to go to college. I couldn't afford it at that time and the college education i could afford was probably part time and kind of working fulltime and scraping by and I really thought that. If i spent a few years in the armed forces i would be able to create a platform where maybe i could get the kind of college education. I really wanted and i was also not ready to go to college. I wanted an adventure. I i really was a little bit. Burned down on formal learning. I'd always been sort of a self taught kind of person. And so the idea of cutting loose from formal education for a few years and serving our.
How to Lead with Practicality
"I- Melody Harm from Yahoo Finance and I'm so excited to be speaking with Gary Banner Truck. Today. Thanks for joining a scary. Thank you melody. The theme of this year's Am SS road to recovery. Tell us what you're seeing veer media. Your focus has always been on innovative experiential marketing of course that has sort of been thrown out the window to a certain extent Tell us how you've been able to give it. During time, it's really funny. The way you've been structured that I totally get the positioning of us being innovative or disruptive or things that nature. But in actual business meetings with big and small brands I've always clarified kind of my persona or like the vibe around us. I've always said look people think that were innovating. I think more practical I. think that most people talk about today in a very confused way most companies really put yesterday on a pedestal what used to work and they think of today as the future, but it's actually today. So ironically is thought we were practical versus disruptive or innovative. So to your point in the way you set that up. We were never doing vr a are like the things I talk about what consumers are actually doing now like I think we can all agree that consumers give their attention to this device. and. So when we're doing media and creative in these channels and Ott facebook instagram, Youtube, Tiktok, whatever they may be linked in for B. Two B. Companies. We think it's practical. We think it's underpriced no different than that to Yahoo, and early there's a yahoo that ad product Yahoo Google ads like Yahoo ads that was driver for my family's business in ninety, nine, two, thousand, two, thousand, one, two, thousand people thought Yahoo ads was so futuristic but if you were doing them, you knew they were practical you were doing business. So what's actually happened for us is people have thrown out yesterday. And Have Opened Their Eyes Today Aka the biggest brands in the world that we work with. A starting to understand paying six hundred thousand dollars for production to run on television. Might not be the best use of their money and have leaned into e COM. And content and media being together in digital channels to drive business results, and this has been the greatest era of CMO's and real marketing individuals at the highest levels becoming more practical and practitioners. So we're seeing a lot of growth to be frank. And we're seeing people finally have the You know I was reading about this on Yahoo or Wall Street Journal or Ad Age, but I never took it seriously because I put yesterday on a pedestal. And now I actually see what you meant I can't believe facebook ads and creative can drive my business so much. So we're seeing a big seachange in Madison Avenue. And even start a planned to a degree and and obviously we're excited about it from our perspective. Ran We see this wide divergence when we look at the industry, right that are actually sending those ad dollars even if they're rejecting their budgets of course, retail financial services are two of the top senders. When you look at even the growth that's happening twenty twenty. How are you seeing that manifest in your business? Are there any particular bright spots that you can call out or perhaps laggards in the face? Overall? The the bright spots for me are. I can't believe how many whether it's craft or proctor pepsico the conversations I'm having where the actual sales data. is becoming the KPI, not the internal A. Or. Nielsen Brand Studies. So. You, know. I. Actually see a lot of if we're very heavy CPG we're heavy financial services as chases client like. We're seeing we weren't. We weren't in airlines or hotels like we got lucky is the only word I can use our client mix was. Berry. Benefited by Govan to be honest in the short term. In that timeframe because they're worried about supply chain to be honest, right our clients are much more worried about making more of their stuff than anything else. I think it's just affirmation of my prior statement which is. The bright spots or the advancements are as following. We are seeing bigger allocation to marketing because we finally got clients to measure on how well they're doing on Amazon dot com or proving to them that we're moving product at Kroger or Walmart or Home Depot. So what's happening investing more because the debate went out the window because they weren't lazy with their money because nobody can do TV productions. So you're seeing the real world of haves and have nots. The industries that were most affected are obviously in trouble more so than others and the industries that most benefited from it food necessities. Were unable to spend their marketing money. The way they're they're accustomed to. Meanwhile what was happening was the way they were accustomed to big productions on TV and then doing matching luggage to that TV spot on digital was for the last decade wrong or at least wildly overpriced.
Kroger opening ghost kitchens to fuel ClusterTruck
"Grocery. Chain Kroger perhaps you've heard of it as partnering with Indianapolis, Startup Cluster track, which is the best name ever to provide on demand delivery cluster truck operates a delivery service for those so-called Ghost. Those are created to provide online delivery for food. There's not a restaurant that you go to. There's no physical. They're they're kroger is providing space in its meal preparation areas, poor cluster staff to cook meals for delivery or in store pickup. The partnership formalizes a pilot program that it tried in Carmel and Indianapolis Indiana and Columbus Ohio. Ghost kitchens also called dark kitchens or cloud kitchens as a new startup trend attracting the likes of former Uber, CEO Travis Kalinic who started cloud kitchens at another competitor in Pasadena California called kitchen united.
Going From Homeless To Hired
"Williams. Last. You've. Had Fallen on hard times and was now living in her car and she would park it. Outside of a kroger back in the parking lot far back in the parking lot in our state here of Tennessee this is a national story now in people magazine. This is her quote. She said I would lean my seat all the way back. So no one would see me because you know I knew I wasn't supposed to be there. But she eventually cross paths with the Kroger hiring manager a lady by the name Jackie Vandal who gave her a heads up about an upcoming, job? Fair. After Williams was repeatedly asking her if the store was hiring. So there's the first she is on really Really thin ice in that she's sleeping in the parking lot and if they figure out that she sleeping in the parking lot, they're going to kick around parking lot. So she's Kinda got that risk factor going on and she's on hard times big time and yet she keeps showing up she keeps going hey, are you hiring are hiring? Are you hiring at the lowest point of her life her desire even though that she's really really doubt her desire to climb out is so strong she risks getting found out so. This is the quote from Jackie Vandal. She says, you get a feel of someone sincere or if they're just trying to get a job to say they got one and then quit a month later I could tell she was very sincere. It was a gut feeling. So. vandal tells Williams to submit our application online. Williams retrieves an old laptop from car and spins out filling out the application with vandals help as soon as she submitted at Vandal hire on the spot. I love that story because the hiring manager decides to help her out. Not. Just given the job by saying you've gotta fill this thing out she sits in the car with her helps are filled this application out. and. Once she goes through the final step of hitting submit. She hires her why she wanted to see her go through the whole process. There's some wonderful wonderful teacher if you're going to help somebody. That really needs it. I really believe there's something to making them do some things. To prove to you and to them that they are willing to do what it takes and this lady Shiva Williams was and she'd been dealing with a lot of abuse physical abuse mental and. Verbal abuse. And she's been at the store. This is at the end of two, thousand and nineteen. She's been at the store the entire year of twenty twenty and has made the most of this opportunity. She saved up enough money to get her own apartment and then her workers came together to help her furnish it. Oh, my goodness that feels good. What's the, takeaway. The takeaway I think is twofold number one. If you're really down doesn't matter if you're in the situation that this fabulous lady was in. But you're just really down. Your desire to get out of that is what's going to fuel the climb. Secondly, if you come across someone who's really really down and you can see they've got a genuine desire. To climb out, you owe it to them. The SNOT, an accident you owe it to them. To reach. down. Let them, take your arms, your hands, and help him come out. They gotTA put some effort into it. Yes. But you owe it to him. So what a story listen to Williams I'd love to meet her. Because I think that is an inspiring story and also the hiring manager Jackie vandal. Love to meet her.
Kroger sued for allegedly firing workers who refused to wear rainbow symbol
"Kroger employees were fired for refusing to wear an apron that included a rainbow symbol and how federal employment watchdog has filed a religious discrimination lawsuit against the supermarket chain. Right, a lawsuit and Trudy record, both Christians said wearing the symbol Which promotes the radical homosexual agenda violates their religious beliefs.
City Council to vote on potential ban of plastic bags at Cincinnati grocery stores
"Council today could follow through with a ban on single use plastic bags at grocery stores and restaurants. City Council approves the ordinance of not only banned single use plastic bags at grocery stores, restaurants and other places that serve food. It would also add a five cent fee per paper bag with that money going back to the business Council member Chris Seelbach, who introduced the proposed, ban said during a committee meeting Wednesday. There is a clause in which there would be no charge for those bags, so if we are in a stated emergency, the city manager can waive the five cent fee. Help with with people. But yes, So we added that to the ordnance, Seelbach says Kroger will be giving away thousands of free reusable bags to help those in low income neighborhoods adjusted the change, which would go into effect January 1st If approved, I'm Sean
This Week Will include Consumer borrowing, job openings, And Kroger earnings
"A number of reports are expected to this week. Economically. Supermarket operator Kroger will serve up its fiscal second quarter results. On Friday. The Labor Department reporting its monthly tally of job openings on Wednesday and tomorrow, the Federal Reserve issuing its July snapshot of US consumer borrowing. Market's closed today, of course for the Labor Day holiday.
The Aldi Haul
"Today we are jumping in there's another episode that is a hall episode. So today's the Aldy Hall. GonNa make the joke, the hall yeah. I know I always make the joke it's I. Think I'm over the joke. Brought it back. I love all the all the is actually a new discovery for me, and now I describe it as like a less expensive trader Joe's. Isn't that kind of what it's like pretty much which is crazy because trader Joe's is already inexpensive. Like yeah. It's like the dollar store trader joes well, I. Mean the last time I said it was like smartandfinal meets the dollar store and some people got upset about that comparison. But like I love the dollar store and by the way, people need to know that the food that you get at the dollar store is not older expired in some cases it's a lot of big brands that are specifically making foods for the dollar store. So I don't know that but I a big fan of the dollar store. So I take that as a compliment if somebody would say that anyway, that's just me. But today we are going through a whole bunch of products I went to all the last week. I purchased don't know like nine hundred item. So. A lot of the stuff that I bought were holding off in a few more weeks. We'll do it all the hall I'm GonNa. Go back to all the fill it out. But I, I mean I literally got like fifteen things and we're going to try one, seven, eight, eight of them today. It's going to be tough for me to not eat that one thing that's in the bag that we're gonNA wait on because it just I can I look at it every day and I wanna eat it I'm guessing it's peanut butter flavored Jamie please hide this from him. It'd be having other PB item today. It's a little bit of a weird. I am I'm actually really excited with that one. So I'm excited about everything today zero. All right. So before we jump in and start eating everything in sight Mike, what you got. Are you ready for your new favourite fall drink? Viva Seltzer has just come out with a new flavor. Do you WANNA guess. So it's fall themed. So the is it the I think it's V. visit. Oh, it's. I don't know. Could. Use this Jamie what does it looks like the va I don't know. Whatever you want to her five. The new flavor is pumpkin spice. So it's a hard seltzer pumpkin spice flavors. It looks like right now it's only being sold at Kroger Stores and Kentucky Tennessee and Ohio. But I'm sure we'll go nationwide wouldn't go nationwide. By, the way I don't know if you know this but the vive or. Whatever it's called their heart seltzer drinks or one hundred calories and two grams of carbs. Yeah. That's not bad except the only bad part of that is hard. Seltzer Gross. That's my. I don't I am not a fan and the the idea of like a pumpkin spice flavor that sounds terrible to me. Might be harsh right now no I feel like the only excuse for a pumpkin spice flavored cocktail as if it's like a frozen sweet. Type of like creating. Yes. Creamy. So the article that I that I read this from, they got a taste of it and they said it's amazing like it's and they thought the same thing like it would be terrible and they loved it so. I will give it a try I'm GONNA give it the benefit of. And a our little community of Woodland Hills is in the news like big time in the news Amazon fresh. The one that we have that we've been getting our deliveries from there finally, opening it up to walk in customers. It's the first in the country like no other Amazon, fresh stores allowing customers walk inside except for ours right now. And it's by appointment only I guess you have to go on and make an appointment. And, the store does have cashiers but they they encourage you to use their dash cart our showing Jamie this the other day. So it's a cart with a screen on it and every time you pick up an item, you scan the item on the car and then charges you on your Amazon Account. So I'm imagining it to punch in your code or something when you get get the cart. And I'm not, GonNa go to any stores as of it on my comfortable yet. But I don't know might be something you might WanNa check out judgy when you say You might want to go into a store. That sounds cool. I. The thing I know about Amazon fresh is that whenever I order anything, there's like for every item, there's like eighty eight pieces of packaging. It's like they wrap everything in plastic and in cooler bag, and then in a brown bag and then box. But maybe if you go to the store, you won't get all the packaging but I'm excited actually so I will check it out
City of Houston, local businesses create donation drive to help those affected by Hurricane Laura
"Mattress. Mack Kroger in the city of Houston are teaming up with the donation drive to help residents in the Golden Triangle of Beaumont, Port Arthur and oranges well as Louisiana starting Tuesday, you could drop off goods at Galleryfurniture or the George R. Brown from 9 A.m. to 4 P.m.. There will also be drop off boxes at all Kroger stores. They're asking for diapers, cleaning supplies, bleach, bottled water, nonperishable food, pet food and supplies. As well as personal hygiene
Recall expands for onions linked to Salmonella outbreak
"News, the nationwide salmonella outbreak and onions just got bigger. Your CBS news correspondent Maria Garcia. Salmonella tainted onions are traced to Thompson International out of Bakersfield, California They've recalled all red, white, yellow and sweet yellow onions because of increased salmonella cases and hospitalizations. Newly added to the list of recalled products because they may contain the tainted onions are Murray's and Holtzberg cheese dips and their Delhi brand sold at Kroger for admire fries and Smith stores around the
Onions in meal delivery service recalled for salmonella
"Outbreak and onions just Got bigger. CBS news correspondent Maria Garcia the salmonella tainted onions are traced to Thompson International out of Bakersfield, California They've recalled all red, white, yellow and sweet yellow onions because of increased salmonella cases and hospitalizations. Newly added to the list of recalled products because they may contain the tainted onions are Murray's and Holtzberg cheese dips and their Delhi brand sold at Kroger for admire fries and Smith stores around the country. We've got more info
Salmonella outbreak tied to onions sickens nearly 900 in 47 states
"Salmonella outbreak has been linked to re called Onion sold nationwide. CBS News correspondent Maria Garcia has more the salmonella tainted onions are traced to Thompson International out of Bakersfield, California They've recalled all red white yellow. And sweet yellow onions because of increased salmonella cases and hospitalizations, newly added to the list of recalled products because they may contain the tainted onions are Murray's and Holtzberg cheese dips and their Delhi brand sold at Kroger for admire fries and Smith stores around the country More on the home page of w t o p dot com.
USDA warns against eating prepared meals with recalled onions
"The USDA has issued a public health alert warning against eating some prepared meals sold at Wal Mart, Kroger and other retailers that may contain onions tied to a salmonella. Outbreak. Nearly 400 people in 34 states have become ill. A list of recalled products is on our website at CBS news dot com slash recall
Salads sold at Walmart, Kroger, H-E-B with recalled onions included in new USDA public health alert
"Bloomberg's Tom Busby joining US live and one of the retailers that are being impacted by the expanded warning from federal health officials, Tom Well, this is scary News, A WalMart Kroger, the nation's biggest grosser KGB. That's a big change in Texas, some others. This is their, including in a new public health alert because they sell ready T chicken salads, breakfast bowls and other prepared meals that includes some California grown onions that have already been recalled due to salmonella contamination. So be careful what you
Big tech CEOs testify before Congress
"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
"kroger" Discussed on Doughboys
"Grocery store in L. A. Nick. It was a while I went to this is the one I went to the most I started going to trader Joe's across the street from it. Back when I lived down on citrus six, forty, five south citrus if you wanna go and see it. I'm sure that a lot of people want to see the house I used to live down there six, forty five. South citrus lived three people. I. Did not know I found it on craigslist. FIRST YEAR IN LA and I thought Ralph's was fine and I'll say this, this is the plus side. Is that they do have a big selection of things I saw the. digiorno croissant pizza that people say is good I saw it at Ralph's I have not seen anywhere else weird specialty items are like new things you can find them at Ralph's you can they're good with that stuff? But man else just a fucking. This was a dud neck and honestly it's made me question what is what is the best you know like now I'm wondering what is the best grocery store because I thought Ralph's is GonNa Really. Change should should up on me but maybe I'm Gilson's man the most the Hoity toity re. fucking. Last restore but maybe I'M A. Gilson's is much better than fucking rouse's. That's what he twenty is good now. Maybe. L. Change then I. Think Albertson and I think when you see mich anymore. I think Albertson's is going to be my album. That's the thing is back in Quincy like stop and shop. I. Get great stuff at the Deli case. Yes. This shit sucked I think Albertson's is the one I'm going to stick with Nick after this whole experiment I think I'm just an albertsons man. But I'm going to and a half carts. Two cars one basket. This sucked. Wow. It was it was or it was fucking hole. I was expecting stop and shop to be a member of a gigantic conglomerates, but it seems like it is still its own corporation. It seems like it does not have a ownership. Does not is not owned by Albertsons Kroger or another larger grant. Yeah who I got here. You Got Wally. Cat Wally. Up to his Webcam I. Wali. So I think that that. grouse slash Kroger was my childhood grocery stores where we would go as a family. It's probably the grocery chain I have visited the most in my life. I will say this is a we've talked. We set a lot of negatives about kroger to positives. Wanted has a unionized workforce to. It has larger aisles than a lot of other chains I feel like the aisles are pretty wide and I. Find Store is a good point more comfortable to navigate versus like an albertsons where where things are often times pretty compact. So that is that is a check mark in its favor. I think that they're store bad. Of course, girth is a fucking our you give points for girth. Store brands are bad. Their store brands are really under deliver, which is a disappointment outside of their bakery, which I'd argue is pretty good in general. But. They have everything. So evaluating is a grocery store in terms of hey, this has this has what you need. If you want groceries I think every go slightly higher than the consensus and I'm going to take up to four carts. For Kroger I feel I feel like that's my score I feel like it is just slightly above a below average rather because of its various divisions Nikki through the Puck in union should on us we didn't know okay we don't. We didn't know about the Union Albertson's also unionized workforce. It depends on the some of those larger grocery chains are some of the ones like the ones that you think of is more progressive quote unquote like trigger trader, Joe's and your your whole foods are not. Shutout to Orlando who was my Chaco Guy? He was he was very nice and helpful. And he knew love he'd watched the show. Love. David Esther both worked on. Very good. Yes. Shut Orlando he was. School, you're going to say more. No, that's just shout to him. He was given High Orlando. Hey. That was our review of Kroger. As we close out grocery. Store Monte I'm I say don't fucking stinker. The last one was stinker. stinker grocery store not the episode episode is great that great great egg dough boys quality like always the grocery store is kind of it's you know what? It's like. It's like the rise of skywalker. It's like that's the final injury just a real a real bummer real letdown that even people who are on board or just abandoned ship at that point. So. Yeah. You know what? It makes sense because when I was going down the. There was a bunch of snow clones. Boy. That's a health hazard. Mitch you have a beverage. You can decide if it's worth pouring down your throat. It is another addition of spoon man's drink or stink. No liked I'm sorry spoon man's SIP or ship. Nick. Hold on one SEC. Okay. MITYA's stepping away to get a beverage. What Mitch has but I'm curious Dave. Esther what do you think he's GonNa pull out here. Just Sun Nothing. Yeah I think it's like a flavored root beer some kind good gas. Okay Ester. Slick a scary snapple. Flavor root. Beer scary snapple. Mitch what's The verdict? What are you have? Nick I got myself an easy e low calorie. Green Tea Ale. Is that alcoholic yet is wow, from lakefront brewery. Wow. Which is how exhibiting given to us from someone who probably likes the show. So I hope. I it. We got this in. Wisconsin. It looks like this for Milwaukee the Milwaukee Brewery. Wow. But agreement last live shows ever. One of our last live shows ever or maybe positive we played we do we play Milwaukee before that too. We did. Didn't we? It was in I mean no I think those are first and only time in Milwaukee and aren't we doing? This maybe it was mailed to us to. I'm opening this bad boy up. Your shirts not poison. Yeah. Possibility it's poison. I did on that note one time someone sent US A. Like a sealed container in a brown rapper. And said, we should drink it and I told Mitch I. Didn't want to drink it and he got mad at me for not wanting to drink the mystery drink that was mailed by a stranger now hold on a second mad at you. Yeah. I was just like come on. Let's try. It'll be fun. So Nick I opened this up, got quite the head. The head is spilling out here into our out of the can the Mitch of Beers the. Frothy Frothy head there now. I'm not a huge green tea fan but this is this is interesting because it's also ninety nine calories. The Oh that's nice. A low calorie beer. Or Ale. I'm. GonNa take. A Fun Guy. With Watching mccollough sign the. God the Yin Yang. Symbol the Yin Yang I was saying young I couldn't get out of my mouth he's got what nick he's got. He's making the you know that Emoji that has the tongue out and then one eye open and one eye closed which I like to use if I say something a allow L. A. Wacky. It's got that Emoji, but then superimposed over that faces the Yin Yang symbol that's big in idea of the vibe that they are trying to convey. GonNa take a SIP right now. Here we go. All right taking a SIP right now. Esther I know you're a teetotaler Dave de remind you drink alcohol. Alternate a little bit of some red wine once in a while have you been consuming during quarantine at all yet intake is Mildly. Crazy but yeah, have injured all. That's good. How about yourself? Yeah. It's. It's I mean it's up I actually took thirty days off because it like I'm going overboard. So I, take thirty days off. That just flew by by the way I was like fucking thirty days was done as like it's like that. Was it like what thirty days feels like? fucking is just so weird. I should have asked You if you remembered my dad's name during those thirty days you probably. I got. News. For you guys. Not a huge green tea fan. This is a huge sip for me. This is delicious. I love, I was about..
Big Tech CEOs Testimony Before Congress
"Today was the day as I record these words the big tech CEO's are still testifying before Congress. So I'm going to have to do a summary of what I've seen just in the first couple of hours or so and leave some of the juicier question and answer back and forth for tomorrow. I up a note on the format that we've been seeing. Yes. All of the CEOS were testifying remotely. They were using Cisco Webex as the video conferencing tool and it seemed to work fairly well at least right until this very moment as I turned off the stream to go into the booth to record this, they took a ten minute recess because apparently one of the witnesses. was having an issue with their stream or feed, and I'm wondering if it might have been Jeff Bezos because at least thus far were almost an hour and a half into the testimony and he hadn't been asked a single question. Anyway back to the whole idea of testifying remotely if I were going to do one of those rate, my video call backgrounds reports. Bezos look like he was in some sort of executive boardroom, lots of tasteful Chomsky's behind him. Look like he was in a conference room at a high end law firm I couldn't tell what Zuckerberg was sitting in front of it looked like closed vertical blinds almost like I don't know some sort of like a bunker like if you're battening down your house for a Hurricane Tim, Cook was in front of some sort of tasteful plant trough though he was clearly working off an ipad pro. Let's start off with what the Fab four had to say in their opening statements. Amazon's Jeff bezos underscored Amazon's job creation, its investments in social causes and its role in supporting small and medium-sized businesses. And made the case that Hey Amazon is just a tiny competitor in a huge global market quote. The global retail market we compete in is strikingly large and extraordinarily competitive Amazon accounts for less than one percent of the thousand five, trillion dollar global retail market and less than four percent of retail in the US unlike industries that are winner take all there's room in retail for many winners for example. More than eighty retailers in the US. Alone earn over one billion dollars in annual revenue like any retailer we know that the success of our store depends entirely on customer satisfaction with their experience in our store every day Amazon competes against large established players like target Costco Kroger and of course, Walmart a company more than twice Amazon size, and while we have always focused on producing a great customer experience. For retail sales done primarily online sales initiated online are now in even larger Growth Area for other stores Walmart's online sales grew seventy four percent in the first quarter and customers are increasingly flocking disservices invented by other stores. Amazon still can't match at the scale of other large companies like curbside pickup and in store returns and quote alphabets. Soon, Darpa, Chai, said that Google also operates in a highly competitive. Market and that it's free products benefit the average American quote. A competitive digital ad marketplace gives publishers, advertisers, and therefore consumers an enormous amount of choice pichai stated, for example, competition and ads from twitter instagram comcast and others has helped lower online advertising costs by forty percent over the last ten years with these savings pass down to consumers through lower prices in areas like travel and real estate Google faces strong. For search queries for many businesses that are experts in those areas. Today's competitive landscape looks nothing like I. Did five years ago let alone twenty one years ago when Google launched its first product Google search people have more ways to search for information than ever before and quote. Tim Cook of Apple said that the APP store has opened the gate wider for software developers. Also, apple doesn't have dominant market share quote as much as we believe, the iphone provides the best user experience. We know it is far from the only choice available to consumers Cook said after beginning with five hundred APPs today the APP store hosts more than one point seven, million, only sixty of which are apple software. Clearly, if apple is a gatekeeper, what we have done is open the gate wider we want to get every APP we can on the store, not keep them off and quote. And facebook's mark. Zuckerberg said well, but he said a thousand times before that facebook knows it has more work to do on things like fighting misinformation and that you know companies aren't bad simply because they're big. And he took pains to point out that facebook is an American success story quote although people around the world use our products. FACEBOOK is a proudly American company. He said, we believe in Values Democracy Competition Inclusion and free expression that the American economy was built on many other tech companies share these values, but there's no guarantee our values will win out for example China. Is Building its own version of the Internet focused on very different ideas and they are exporting their vision to other countries as Congress and other stakeholders. Consider how antitrust laws support competition in the US. I believe it's important to maintain the core values of openness and fairness that have made America's digital economy, a force for empowerment and opportunity here and around the world and quote. In his opening remarks, the chairman of the Committee David. Sy-. Selena Rhode. Island. Laid out three areas of inquiry that the was scheduled to delve into at least in questioning from the Democratic Congress folk more on that in A. Quitting CNBC, each platform allegedly serves as a quote bottleneck for a key channel of distribution and quote the platforms allegedly used their control over digital infrastructure to Sir Vail other companies, their growth business activity, and whether they might pose a competitive threat and use that information to maintain their own power and third the platforms allegedly abused their control over current technologies to extend their power through tactics like self referencing their own products. Quote. Prior to the cove nineteen pandemic, these corporations already stood out as titans in our economy. Silly said in the wake of Covid nineteen however, they are likely to emerge stronger and more powerful than ever before, and he concluded by saying quote, our founders would not bow before a king nor should we bow before the emperor's of the online economy and quote? But as I say, while this was labelled as an anticompetitive antitrust inquiry, it seems like the Republican Congress folk were primarily interested in probing alleged bias against conservative users. In fact, Jim Jordan. One of the ranking Republican representatives spent most of his opening remarks railing against. which if that continues would basically be exactly what all of the CEOS in the talking head boxes would be hoping for right lots of distraction and no real spotlight on them. In fact, a lot of the most heated questions directed at a company that's not even present. We'll see if that continues but I have to say straight off Chairman Sicily and was very specific targeted sharp questions. He kept interrupting folks when they started to stray into doublespeak and the very nature of the questions from him and others at least so far. This wasn't like previous congressional hearings we've covered where the congress folk didn't seem to even understand the businesses they were investigating, and maybe that was because I don't know if you saw the woman sitting very prominently very obviously behind Mr. Cecil lean. Let me let the Washington Post fill you in on who that was quote as a twenty eight year old law student Lena Con penned a twenty four thousand word article for Yale Law Journal titled Amazon's antitrust. Paradox. The article described how US antitrust law isn't equipped to deal with tech giants such as Amazon. Even as the company has made itself as essential to commerce in the twenty first century in the way that railroads and telephone systems had in the previous century con now works as counsel for the antitrust subcommittee she has worked with Sylvain to develop his case against the tech giants including Amazon and quote. As I said, the questioning is continuing as I speak these words in fact I just heard that they came back from their recess. The whole thing did kick off hour late only getting started at one PM, eastern? So I don't think it'll be done before for five PM at least. So again, I'll put together a summary of all of the juicy exchanges happening now for tomorrow.
McDonald's mandates face masks at its 14,000 U.S. restaurants
"Will require customers to wear face covering starting in August and will add protective panels in this restaurants. Fast food chain joins other corporate giants like WalMart, Kroger's and Starbucks, who had previously announced their own mask mandates in their locations.
"kroger" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"The the marshes are Kroger to this world or to to open up you know in certain neighborhoods so I think with the education piece it's not so much whether it's a voucher or a like a private school or charter school or a public school I think what you're looking for is what's literally happening in the classroom water teacher extrication what strategies are being used to actually you know address that she'd make gaps or opportunity gaps so soon you can different terms now so that we don't just sit back every year and just six at bats black students are gonna have lower test scores on on sept the other thing that happened with this is we're not just saying that it's about what's happening in the classroom we're recognizing that like the housing problem like a child here the child was still safe at home and have like the necessary equipment like you learn little things that nature that's the problem and that influences learning if they're hungry and they don't have healthy food options that's a problem a manifold and so with AC I've doing inside look at the problem of the she may get more holistically to the other states you really about using the energy that we can put together to build a stadium or to launch a masthead the system to think about okay how do you get food who how do you get food to people as opposed to people to suit try not to have more you know big box grocery stores are marches and things that nature are going to be more like Instacart and you know other other methods what will become of the people we just got to figure out how to get those systems to work so that we can break down who some dancers are fun of course for my friend this is up to the city council did unanimous by the way are basically said racism is a public health issue of any kind of went through the the the laundry list of things what do you think about that I was very appreciative of the fact that they did that it was in when I read the actual opera the proposal totals one eighty two so they you know they they restaurants all the different institutions national institutes of medical psychological execution that has said racism impacts help determine by black people in particular they also said some important things that were part of the A. C. I. gender including the collection of data and did the disaggregation of data to look at what's happening to black white Latino Asian and other folks in the community best or was it just like a lip service like proclamation kind of the thing basically saying to the city we're actually gonna pay attention to what's going on and we're going to be data informed about the kinds of decisions were making and use that data to you know really kind of get some equity here all right well like I said this is start of all of the long conversation my friend our good friend marshon Wally who is a columnist for the Indianapolis recorder as well as the whole nine yards my son my friend always good to talk to you thank you very much my friend for being with us to stay safe and be good yes Sir always good to be here thanks it wasn't a ninety three W..
"kroger" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Grocery and Kroger offers pick up and delivery and I've been hot for it I will tell you I've done a grocery pick up a couple of times now where everything ordered online is brought in bags in a cart out to my car and I have the brilliant ability to social distance so please keep that in mind as well back to your pantry the canned beans last a couple of years the dried beans they're indestructible the rice the pasta add the tomato sauce all a year or so shelf life if you have evaporated or powdered milk a great substitute for the liquid it that might not be available in your grocery store fresh milk certainly a shortage right now and with that said if you're using powdered milk which is always great to keep on hand it's a quarter Cup of milk powder to a Cup of water which will make you one Cup of the liquid and you can bake and cook with it just the same I think dried mushrooms and plant based products are brilliant to keep on hand because they too have a very extended shelf life dried mushrooms I actually make a really hearty veggie broth with an all use that to cook rice or keen why I use that as a base for soups or stews or sauces and as far as snacks are concerned I'm a snack monster yes I have beef jerky in one hand and a microphone for the radio in the other often times and your snacks have a good shelf life so their essentials the salsa in the pantry will last six months or so the beef jerky a year the not Butters always good to have on hand as a great source of protein hi two years and then I dried fruit you have about six months nuts as well but preferably in the freezer those are great places to store that super cold area the dried fruit and the knots for extended shelf life so please take note with that said I have some ideas for no cook meals because we are all cooking for stress relief I think you do need a break and so I thought I'd share them with you they're my bonus recipes this week hot my ideas to throw together something from a well stocked pantry to create a simple.
"kroger" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"By Kroger get savings on the items you buy most often with low prices that your neighborhood Kroger Kroger fresh for everyone you see women's team advanced to the championship game of the American athletic conference tournament tonight before losing to Connecticut eighty seven to fifty three Cincinnati obviously has more postseason action to look forward to not sure about the Bearcats opportunities for making it to the NCAA tournament but if they don't make that they will certainly return to the women's at I. T. where they made it to the elite eight a year ago so hopefully so some great things to come for the UC women's basketball this shows the noble job I mean you know it's to to take first time seventeen years ago the championship game of conference tournament in the you know the exact opposite us they take your business without worry about the ending some labels and things out to share the the dunes they don't have to do dramatically the ticker business early in unbelievable which is done with the program in Lee a next level Costa were we're we're lucky to have her and they're running the only run to the elite eight of the W. and I. T. was awesome last year so hopefully they've got some great victory still to come all right more questions for coach Brandon fire away the coach I know Jen must be a real problem for the other teams and I'm just wondering what opponent what player on the opposing team you feels done the best job guarding him well that's a great question I A. S. so consumed with who we do you know what our guys doing some of the best players who does the best job on them I don't know off the top of my head that would be I think it's it's multiple people opening guard here with one person thank you gotta put multiple people and I think you have to put multiple bodies around the you know the old saying you know great players will play in space your traffic with the space much as possible in a I think the team to that success of than that to a certain extent but the I don't know anyone players got sick is done the best job I think it's more of a game playing standpoint a team it's a great job on I was wondering the week big man for next year are we coming on that I know you can't give names but yeah I mean you know one or commits is not you know this is a multi faceted blurred terms ability to you know make plays in different positions we're involved with you're quite a few bigs so we just go sit the clothes on your transfer markets also markets out there that'll still be a part of it coach the last few games you've employed one three one was some pretty good success with Mamadou on top could you tell us what you look for when you want to throw it in and what type of things you try to try to do to limit the other team yeah I'd love to I'll be giving away secrets do you think this group is is that intelligent as the coaches with me in the tournament this.
"kroger" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"Is that that all right. Good yeah we got the hunters. But we don't need to convince them we need to. We need to show people who who aren't hunters. Who who grew up in in southern California like I did and never were exposed until they were thirteen years old or would never have had the chance had call not reached out to me and said hey man? Let's go on a hunt adults with the people that I think are going to add a lot of value to this narrative to this important story that you're telling Ya and I would challenge the people that are three people. You're listening to this podcast. Because there's there's at least four. Come on Gimme some credit critic on this but I would challenge the people that are listening if they all hunters one to be narrative changes start thinking more about how you post things and what you say right and what it means. Because you don't know who's looking you don't know who's watching I would also add to that you're going to have another another point here is reach out please. Like if you're a hunter reach out to somebody who's not because what you may not realize is is that I get so many messages and I know that I will after this conversation from men who will say things like man. I've always wanted to hunt and I just don't know how I don't know how to start. I don't know where if you would reach out. And Hey you know to your neighbor for example or a or a or a guy that you work with. Hey I'm going hunting this week. I know you don't have a tag. Maybe you're not even a hunter but you might be interested in coming along like I'll put what you to work. We'll help you. You're going to meet with me. You're GONNA help me look for an animal and just come hang out. We're going to camp for three days. I coming out of this. That would go such a long way in in promoting what it is doing absolutely no. You're right so that's to the hunting community and I had one more thing. Actually I'll add one more the hunting community one of the things onto doing project. which is we can only tell so? Many stories have been so many places at once. So what I started doing is I've started almost opening up to the general audience to say everyone has an iphone iphone record amazing videos. I do a Selfie. Send Me Your Selfie. And we're calling it. This is my wine. So sit yourself under a tree whether you're hunting or you with your boys you with your girls or your whatever and you just get inspired. Turn that camera around shoot a cell phone video. Watchful wouldn't didn't cause audio kills thing right just in less than a minute. Explain what you're doing and ended by saying and this is my one. Yeah the listening to this sexual. I like downst- right. That's the whole point of the project we want to hear from you. And we want to hear from the community to the non hunters that are listening to us. I would say you know. I hope we've inspired a little bit of thought around in a challenging the maybe the the perception of who we are hunters But we want to hear from you to think. What don't you like to see? What what is it that you want to understand and more what is what is the thing that you just can't wrap your mind around because we have the answers? It may not be what you want to hear but we can encountered in such a way that it may reach a consensus with middle ground right or even if it doesn't and it's just an understanding. Okay I get it. I'm still not interested but I get it. That's got it. I'm we're good. Yeah read on. Why love what you're doing? Let's let's wind things down. I want to ask you a couple additional questions. I didn't I didn't prepare for this so I I'm GonNa put you on the spot a little bit but I ask all my guess. What does it mean to be a man? I think what it takes to be a man L. captured in being Catching being husband a dad and then a man being husband it means and I think three's tie tubes sacrifice understanding that there is changed involved in who you think you all and that you have committed yourself to partner that when I'm struggling here because right in and we talked about this on right in the middle of this kind of thing that you've gotta sacrifice and what you think is rights. You think is right but you know is wrong to ensure that that person that committed to laugh too is supported in the way that they need to be supported. Full being a dad. It's something again. I'm struggling with right. Now is sacrifice of this idea of work life balance and being they being present and making sure that you know they're they're getting the characteristics that you want them to have has men when they grow up. Who and then as a man? Is You know sacrifice showing people that Oh you do. Sacrifice for your family. Do Sacrifice Alive And then I'll add one mall characteristic witches integrity and being in integrity will be out of integrity showing up doing what you say you are very little in this world but you would And so if you give your word living integrity already biol- would powerful idea. How do we connect with you origins on every platform you can possibly find origins not oranges again? If people say that need people get that a lot of blood oranges. That's that's it had blond orange. They're like well. I thought you had a beer. I realized it was oranges. That's origins blood origins Instagram handle the act origins facebook blood origins when not on twitter YouTube You know pretty much everywhere. Just typing veterans into Google. And you can find all of our episodes of up to thirty nine schedule cooking. Yeah and Yeah big make things come in two thousand twenty awesome. We're looking forward to it. All Sing it all up so the guys know where to go robby appreciates you our friendship. You come out here spending a couple of days out here. We've had a good Time we did fights last night we got got a couple more hours before you gotta get back. So we're going to do Turkey hunting in the spring with me and my my family which you'll be fund fund Should be time appreciate you man. Thank you men. There you go my conversation with the one and only Robbie Kroger little different I hope hope that you enjoyed it. If you haven't checked out blood origins than a highly suggest that you do again. I think it's going to give you a perspective and a site of hunting that again. Potentially you may. They never seen before. which is the why the WHO behind these hunting Excursions that that we see in fact I'm going to be hunting here the next couple of days season and I and I like hearing the stories of WHO's behind the hunt. I like sharing camp with people that I respect and Meyer and hearing their stories and why they got into it and how they got into it and if Robbie's organization but origins doesn't illustrate that perfectly. I don't know what does connect with blood origins on Instagram facebook doc. Youtube watched their videos. Wherever you're doing the social media thing you'll be able to find them and then also connect with me on primarily instagram and twitter at at Ryan McClure? My last name is spelled M. I c. h. l. e. are getting a lot of traction there and then youtube youtube dot com slash order of men. And you can watch this video on Youtube Sup- if you're interested in that as well I guess it's all I've got for you today. Thanks for being on the path with me. 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"kroger" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"Into the network tap into the resources and You will be well equipped as we head into the New Year twenty twenty and accomplish big things as men guys. You can do that after the show or a man dot com slash iron earn council for. Now let's get back to the conversation with Robbie it is interesting. No because for these guys you've got to think you know with their livelihood and how how they make make a living in a career and what they talk about and how they reach people yet. It's a risk and they have to do it tactfully. Because they don't want well well it's hard. It's easy to say. Well they should just just talk about it but then if it's you it's like the guy got to be a little weary of what I'm putting out there in the world because because this could jeopardize what else on doing which I think is actually a problem not not only was hunting just society in general like for example is is is put something out out there About me hunting or God or something. I believe about society or politics or spirituality or whatever something polarizing rising. It shouldn't be a risk you know if people don't agree with me that's fine but we have this thing in society where you know people are going to docks you you and they're going to try to cancel you all because you happen to see things a little bit differently and that's kind of that's that's pathetic and frankly it's un-american no I think that again that's another thing with straubing fours in in terms of response you know not not being ultra poke in the eye top response but to say. Hey Man I hear you your point of view. Yeah gannet I said. But his hours right in his way we we do amicably amicably. Disagree with you and then that's fine. Should be okay right I I guess where people have a problem though is is they just think it's so unethical. And that's one of the hard things is that there there is no. There is no objective. Standard of what is and isn't ethical right like I believe that hunting is completely ethical. I don't there's nothing wrong with hunting in in my world and my perspective in my mind and somebody can believe just is adamantly that there is something completely unethical about going out and killing an animal. You're and they're so set in their ways and I'm so set in my ways and that becomes a problem again. It shouldn't be though because it's like I'm not. I'm not impacting. You like me. Hunting is not hurting you. It's not impacting. If you don't want hunt Kuldo hunt for example I don't I don't know of any hunters that actively pursue and an attack vegans right. 'cause they don't care collect fire. That's weird like that. That's that's the thought process that's weird. That guy is eat meat but okay whatever but you flip it around and it seems. It's only going one way but there are a couple of vegans out there that I think would be the same way it's it's I agree that's true that's true. You always get the extreme left and extreme gene writes that just seems to have such a loud voice Well that's what you get rewarded for it right. The the more it seems like the more moronic more Eddie Olczyk you can be the more like you get more attention you get which translates a lot of a lot of cases to attention money and things like notoriety and power and so people are rewarded for acting like fools. Frankly and that's disturbing this at least just not to change topics a A. Why did you start hunting I'm really trying to be thoughtful on this. As to as to the reasons reasons why the first reason the obvious reason is call invited me now. If I wasn't intrigued you're curious about it. I would have said no because it would have been easy for me to say now. I'm good because when he called me up we didn't really know each other at the time he reached out he was a follower of what we're doing. I think he listened to the podcast of the time and he just said Hey. You know I've got a friend and he wants to manage some land down here in Texas and I'd love to take you hunting and my law. Thanks but I don't hunt and he's like I know that's why I want to take us like I wanNA introduce you to the sport. Okay what I what I need. He's like well. It's a rifle in a bow hunt. So you'll need to have bring the rifle down. You need to bring the bow down and practice. Guess with it and get all dialed in and we'll take down here and we'll put you on a hunt But there was something very intriguing. I grew up in until I was thirteen years old. And in southern California no exposure to hunting at all nothing In fact I probably lean more towards. You shouldn't hunt with with the background. In the way that I was raised then we moved to a small town in southern Utah. When I was thirteen in hunting was life we had fall break? which more appropriately it would have been titled Opening Week Break Because that's when it? It wasn't coincidence that it was just happened to be timed during the the opening in season. Opener so yeah. I remember high school kids my buddies. They're driving around in their trucks. They'd have the rifle in the back window their truck on their gun rack and like what the hell like. Where did we move? Had His redneck place in southern Utah and then during that week I saw deer popping up hanging down from outdoor basketball hoops AM I. What is this place? Every House that had a basketball hoop had a dead deer hanging from it and that was my first first exposure to it and so in Collin reached out. I thought you know like this is something that seems challenging. A lot of the guys that I had respect for for that I admired and respected had hunted or were hunters and I thought you know this is something that may be a hobby that I that I would enjoy that I would find meaning and purpose. Listen so I'll go give it a shot and that was in November of twenty seventeen and I probably been on on. I don't know twelve the fifteen months since then so of really immersed myself and got very involved in it and I I love it. I love removed. And tying back to you this podcast which is called the order of man. Yeah you know you have now started to experience some of the characteristics that did you want to see yourself. You WanNa see in yourself as a man. Oh definitely from hunting definitely and that you want to imbue into your kids yes absolutely. Yeah you know I wouldn't say here's how I would. I would say is I. Don't I don't believe that you need to be hunter in order to call yourself man but I believe that being hunter will make you a better man. There's there's there's elements about it from from risk to effort to Frustration and patience and all of the virtues that we've espoused housed over the past five years in this movement that they can be found elsewhere too. I'm not saying you can't find them elsewhere. But hunting seems to encapsulate a lot of the work and the ethics and the values and the virtues that we will that I- anyways believe are critical for men. Today I will add one more to that. Okay which is the ability to put your kids in the situation that they understand I and the value of life agreed and then be able to understand. They're the way we sit as humans in the life cycle of life against death. The gets life right and the sanctity of life and what that means to the family you know so that they can then sit at a table and eat the food and yet we know exactly where that meat comes and the oldest one night you got six year old boys seven and six. I'll purposely point oxygen city when when meeting tonight and the like Dea. Yeah I said Yep with the DEA come from I said you kill the Daddy. That's right I killed it. I said I killed because this is for us And so to me. That's that's something you can't you can't you. Can't you can get disciplined. You can get shades. Yes you can get responsibility in. Get along the characteristics that are part of who we are as hunters doing another endeavor but the idea of connectedness to the land and the sanctity of life and you know the responsibility of like being that the heavyweight of responsibility responsibility. That is when you take that life. Hunting is not going to say the only. It's one of the few places that that can really be embedded into. You know our ethic and kids Eve us. Yeah they're raised. Yeah I agree with yeah. I think there's also something to be said for the stakes at which we play in a lot of people ask me because I was in Iraq in two thousand five and six. I was in Ramadi and a lot of people. Ask anything like what did you learn. Or how did that make you a better man. The most one of the most powerful things for for that experience for me being there was that if I made the wrong decision or a bad call or made a mistake or did something stupid. Then there was a likelihood that somebody would die not like somebody would have a bad day or maybe somebody got sued or somebody lost their job. No somebody died. That means that a a a husband couldn't go back to his wife. A father couldn't go back to his kids. A leader in the community couldn't go back and coach teams and be involved in politics and and lead his neighborhood and moas neighbor's lawn and do all the things like somebody died and the stakes at which we play are valuable especially I think for men because it teaches us to play for real like play for keeps. I think hunting is very much the same way. There's loss loss the you're killing an animal the stakes at which you're playing when you're hunting are high. And because they're hi. It's more likely that you're going to take that a lot more reverently than you would have the stakes been nonexistent or something significantly less important. Absolutely that's just I pol. Julio well in the other thing that you had mentioned just a minute ago was was our role as human beings in in the wild in nature and and this experience of of life and I think a lot of people who aren't familiar with the world of hunting. Don't don't see that connection. They believe that somehow humans are disconnected or that we should be disconnected like we have nature over here and then we have humans women's over here. It's like well. No we are nature. We are an integral part of it. You'd actually know probably the statistics and everything better of course than I would but it seems to me that the more that we embrace ethical hunting in our and our nature of hunting the the better the wilderness and the wild animal population does if we do this correctly. If we ignore it and say well I'm not going to manage. It's going to manage itself but maybe maybe not in the best way possible. Yeah I think so. There's a lot to unpack what you just you just lay off sure. Yeah it's all unpack it in a logical manner number one there's no ecosystem on this planet that hasn't been impacted by humans today which is not like when people hear that. I think they see see that as a negative. It's not a negative. We are part of the deal. Like we're part of this deal and if you did see it as a negative the outcome of that me is that then. We have a responsibility to manage. Well I think you see a negative that I'd have to ask well. What are you doing here here? Well the negative part is by. Yeah we messed it up was like okay. Yeah we messed it up. But again we of the Solution Woods of this land and we have the solution and we have to manage right and management comes in many many different forms. Hunting is one management tool that is used full. Maintaining population dynamics maintaining habitat use. That is just one of the many suites. It's of tools that manages humans have to manage both ecosystems habitat and wildlife populations if you look across the world as a number of of success stories of hunting a lot of people will say well hunters caused the extinction of many many many animals..
"kroger" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"No you go through a purpose and I think that's what hunting is hunting. Gives you up hoops to go purpose. To get into a place that you've never been seen before a purpose to go into the back of the Yukon and chase a dall sheep right. That doll ship is going to be delicious. No doubt sure and the food is not going to be wasted the meat he's not gonNA be wasted though. That may not be your primary purpose for why you go. The indirect benefits of the harvest is going to be the meat. You're GONNA take it home shor in Africa. The meat's GonNa go to the communities indirect benefits of somebody hunting in Africa that it's is protecting wildlife. It's not getting poached agriculture's not coming in ICAN. Massive economic uplift in areas that have knocked medical medical jobs infrastructure. You name it just because somebody wants to. The purpose of them going wants to go and test their abilities. Right Eh against a curl well. And they're not the ideas of harvesting the meat and experiencing the adventure putting your skills to the test west. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. And I think that's what people get confused a lot of times when I get those comments for example where guys say while you're gonna eat it it's a it's like yes. It is possible to enjoy doing something like hunting and it also be very practical at the same time and I think what if I'm if I'm understanding you correctly is what you're saying is that people have a hard time wrapping their heads around. It should just be if if you're gonNA haunt it should just be practical. It shouldn't be like this enjoyable thing. Take pleasure incorrect. Okay and his his dichotomy of the space people so you enjoy hunting which means you enjoy killing right. So there's a reason why we're called hunters and not kill right. Killing is the way that I see the way that I described killing finality to it That killing is almost like It happens every single the WHO if you kill it means you went out. You killed finality to that effort. Hunting by definition is search. uh-huh chase seek which by definition has what built into those three things Fadia A- and so- hunting is not called killing because for the majority of the time. You never kill right at least for me and the odds odds are high. That I won't for me. It seems like all. I think that. That's also you know we would talk through like fallacies around hunting that's another fallacy around handsome as you. Just go out there. Could you show up done. It's done and just walk and kill it. This many many instances where you don't get the animal many many instances with you see animals killed because not old enough right not the right animal right. I mean there's all sorts of reasons sorts of reasons sure and what many many times people spend a lot of money. These huge African Safaris Dall. Sheep you're talking thirty four. Tens hands of thousands of dollars and come home with nothing. Yeah yet they thought they would say that it was still the most successful hunt Not Kill but hunt and that's interesting he'll never. I never looked at it that way. And so you take. I'll take that rhetoric once full coming back to comments and people in you you know tying it back to the project. The project this is. The purpose of the product isn't education but it's more of this is why somebody hunts right. Somebody says well you guys are just you kill us because you you have you want the thrill of the kill. That's Asinine if we're all about the thrill of the kill. Why would we spend right to do that? Yeah and get an right significantly easy. Don't the local abattoir volunteer right. They're not going to say no. You can kill all right right but that's not. Aw Yeah that is that is interesting. And it's you know so I I I WANNA my very first hunt in I. I believe it was November issue of two thousand seventeen and I remember killing that deer. It's this one right behind me on top here. That's my first shot and Man I was just so anxious as I was lining up my shot going through. Breathing can make a good shot here and finally took the shot and and you know so excited when I saw the deer but at the same time it was this bittersweet moment because I have the excitement of completing my objective but then you see this majestic animal lying in the ground knowing that you're the one that ended its life and now for me was really Cathartic moment realizing that you know I wouldn't At that between like call myself necessarily hunter even though I had hunted but it helped me realize oh these I would say that most hunters offers. They don't like they don't like overly enjoy. The killing aspect is just part of the process that needs to redone in order to secure the meat and how adventure yawn. It's you know it's home of the endeavor and at that moment a new felted. It's that it's that like tenths of a second as that as your fingers hitting the trees like okay. I'm about to do this is this. Is this chasm between life and death right. You're in charge of and you know it's not something you you. It's not trivial right. You shouldn't take this lightly and you don't. And that's I think in one of the parts of who we are as hunters and as we breathe a a new tribe offenses in my son's your son being very cognizant of what this means to us in you know being also very come opens since the fragility of being taken life right or being taken advantage of which happens to with poaching some these things as well I think the community. You know there's again to my fantasy huge another big chasm between poaching and hunting right right which is funny because a lot of the issues that people have with hunting is already legal. You know like like not harvesting to me. Oh You you should harvest that neat well. Yes that's actually illegal. Legal not to harvest the animal you have to want to moist laws all over the U so keep but people don't they don't realize that it's like everything that you advocate for war is already regulated and it's actually not only regulated it's regulated by the hunting community because I wanNA sustain something that my children and my grandchildren and so on we'll be able to do thousands of years from now. You know the hunting community unfortunately has a bad rap off you know pointing the finger finger at each other bow hunters better than right roll hunters and the hunted hunter hate is something that we're trying to you figure out how to get rid of and you know I like the Bible. I swear before you call the SPEC in your brothers right call at the planets in your own and that's the stones at the project as well as we're not going to we're not going to call out fellow hunters But we're going to explain something in a very even keeled Mana to say well maybe even slide into the DMC and said hey that trophy shocked with tongue of the deer is hang out. Yeah and that was a great book. Congratulations time that's clean it up a little. Let's I'd love to hear the story right. Tell me more about the story about how you found that. And how you you know what it meant to you did. Did you eat it if you did picture of you and your family join join or you and your friend you know. It's funny even being here in Maine I had a neighbor come over somebody he had dropped off Moose and bear meat on our doorstep about two weeks or so ago and had an idea of who it was an anyways out in the field with my kids the other day and we were sledding down this this Steep Hill we've got out back and truck pulls in and my neighbor and he's like hey. Did you get the package that I dropped off. And I figured it was him and I said yeah he's like I just wanted to share that with you. That was so amazing to me that he was willing to share his harvest his effort. I mean we don't know each other. We met three times since we've been out here and his willingness to share something he so proud and excited about is really telling. Will I think that is a key aspect off. Hunting is this communal sharing of the Hoffa's and and it is prime itself. Right that's down. He went out. And that's the point rugged back to you have the hunters that exactly and here's something you don't see an it's pretty funny. If you think about it we will go and spend and you look at the on the wall or the tractor Moose. Probably per ounce of meat is probably tens of dollars right. It's an expensive roaming the most expensive meat that you have in your sure okay. Ten Times more expensive than filet Mignon. uh-huh yet you're so willing to part with it yes to share it right. How many times have you gone to the Grocery Store and board twenty five filet mignons and said Hey neighbors here I bought stakes for you? No way that's interesting yet tinge expensive of expensive meets when you add it all together. Guns amunition travel days spent is in the field right. Yes a lot of sacrifice costs into that the answer yet. You're willing to part of the blue. You want somebody else to share it with you. Yeah Yeah I guess it. It speaks to the fact that it's more than just the meat itself. It's it's you wanNA share the experience you want to share the story. E- WanNa Brag too. I mean let's be real that exactly the story. Yeah you sit around and you talk about the endeavoring experience you know you watch the the Buffalo Hunts last night did you know we didn't we talked about and you felt through the film. Yeah we went to hunting into kill. The the film was about that. It's the experience I connected to the land. The thing that I liked in that video is a great video. I don't think it's released yet. Maybe by at the time this podcast releases it will have But the the part that I really liked about it was after the hunt was over. How you guys enjoy it? I I assume moves the back strap strap but you guys enjoy the back. Strap over the open fire and I'm sitting around and I thought about that man. I imagine these guys are joking around. They're telling stories they're talking about. Oh where you messed up along the hunt on the way on the path and where it went right and where it went wrong at. That's a pretty cool experience sitting around looking at each other going. Can you believe that that just happened. Yeah you know in the middle of nowhere as I said probably in the place that no white man has ever walked. It wasn't like we knew what will get into because nobody had ever stepped foot in this uh-huh and we just went and hunted if we turned up an animal that was override agent was mature enough. Then we're GONNA go often the fortunates. Fortunately turned out the way. Yeah because I saw a couple of videos last night of years where it didn't quite go so we'll get into that in a minute. I wanted to talk about something you said with the grocery store and again nothing wrong with going to the grocery store we we go to the grocery store and it's convenient and it's nice and you know I I've been fortunate enough and you have as well and most people listening to this podcast to some degree that they can make an income not not hunting not going out and doing their thing. They can make an income enough where they don't have to do that right. It's the luxury of not having to do that. But it's really interesting because you hear a lot of people who will say things like like We've we've outgrown hunting or or we've evolved past hunting. I'm just going to go into the store and get my meat. And it's like you you hypocrite like there's no way to sugarcoat that that whether you're eating a burger a ground beef patty from the grocery store or your are or you're out in the wilderness for weeks harvesting Moose. An animal had to die great. And so why is it. that a deer's life is more valuable to you and your mind than the cow was raised in the slaughterhouse and people will say this while it was raised to die. Have you heard that I have not heard. I've heard that I've said well it was it was it. That's that was its purpose will so it was it was meant to die. That's a justification I don't I cannot for the life of me fathom how somebody has twisted this in their mind to the point where eating a hamburger from Burger King. What a real hamburger? Not The impossible burger right but a real hamburger from burger king is more ethical. Say than going out in harvesting a deer. That's weird to me. I think when it comes to that as you can as you can imagine a pretty much had them all right and we've got. I've got my arguments light up in your line of work. I imagine you'd have to you know when somebody says in wants to go to the grocery store the first line of rhetoric back is you know it's tied to understanding that I took the life of the animal. I'm not long somebody else to do. The killing for me I'm I'm taking responsibility right. Well it's interesting then as you start going down the line you look at the. I told you this is in. The American population is hunters. Less than one percent. I believe things like point. Eight percent. Vegans okay yeah okay right super super small so you start pushing Russian back with whatever we're pushing back on who said well let me ask you a question. Do you eat meat to this anonymous keyboard right and you will be amazed that the percentage of responses that we all Vegan to the passage of the American population. That's point eight percent all of a sudden everyone one. It's almost when you see that response. Come back you know that you hit them in the right spot exactly cheese right. I'm being hypocrite exactly because I can eat burqa yet against hunting and there's no there's no difference from an ethical standpoint like if you look if you're a Vegan I and you don't eat meat at all I you know what I can actually understand that.
"kroger" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"Use The code order at checkout guys. Let me introduce you see to my guest today. His name is Dr Ravi Kroger. He's a biologist who currently holds a position as the science coordinator for the Gulf coast ecosystem. Oh System Restoration Council. That's a handful but or mouthfuls should say but he's doing some amazing things in the restoration of the Gulf coast is also a professor Sir at Mississippi State University in the Department of Wildlife Fisheries and aquaculture But outside of that he founded this movement that we're GonNa talk about today called blood origins which is is aimed at sharing the why in the who behind hunting and where most shows focus on the sport and the ultimate kill nothing wrong with that This is a little different. Robbie set out to learn and understand who hunters are and why they do it. He's got some absolutely absolutely incredible films. We watched a a bunch while he was here at my home in in Maine The document these stories and share a site of hunting that. Maybe you've never seen before so I hope you enjoyed my conversation. Robbie Kroger Robbie. I'm excited have you in studio man. Yeah I've been I've been following you for a while now and knowing that I came on here and the kind of guests that that you've had on yeah I'm just super humbled. Well Yeah I mean. We've been trying to work this probably for a year. Maybe even longer. Yuck it is what we bumped into each other. What Western exploit last year? But we knew each other even prior to that you also I reached out to you and said can I give them content that with Braxton. Oh that's right. Yeah and just had him on the podcast. That's right and you said Yep absolutely. Here's his contact information. We have subsequently gone to Braxton Braxton amazing amazing guy and then we just kept in contact and I reached out to you and you had just become. You just started posting about hunting you. We'll just nascent stage of exploring this thing. That is hunting. I still feel like I'm at that. Stage have not advanced at all. Get to that point where you think you're the best instance tump to hang up the bow of never once thought that in my entire life about anything I've ever done a good job. That's how we started it and then we just kept talking talking then you might the big move up yet a man yeah and I was like well. We just need to get this lockdown. Need to make it happen. What we're glad you're here we We try added. Treat our guests with with some styles certainly wine and dine me. I'm drinking Jaakko right now in the last night that's right we don't mess around here. We're we're GONNA see that go. Does the origin Jaakko go does in the next five minutes or so. So you're talking about filming. You're talking about filming a mutual friend. Braxton McCoy McCoy Just just tell us real quickly what it is that you do. I know what you do. Obviously but I think it'd be really cool for you to give us an over cap and review. What it is that yours? You're doing so so I run. A project called the blood origins project not the blood orange magic just let origins project it is a very simple storytelling documentary platform foam showcase in the heart of hunters. you know. Your audience may not be they may be hunters in your audience that may be non hunters in the audience. And Yeah we have a good mix so you know I I would say even the people who are non hunters just through the exposure of of what I've been doing over the past couple years. And what you and other guests that have had on have done in the hunting world are at least intrigued right. They're not hunt right. They're not hunters. And so that's the whole point of the project is reaching out to that non-hunting base which essentially keeps lifestyle as Americans in place. The two hundred million American voting block. That says yes to hunting. Oh No don't and American hunters in America are less than four percent of the population so we have to do a job of is ensuring that we explain who we all right and so the project is I can boil it down to a simple statement. The project is showcasing the hot of the WHO of the hunting community Eh but also the heart of the why And so we films People's Stories we filmed people's there. Why why do you hunt and everyone has a story? That's the tagline that we use because everyone has a story. My short is unique to me on how I was raised. And what's essentially in my blood from hunting heritage perspective perspective and you may not have a single ounce of hunting heritage in your blood but that doesn't mean that you're not a hunter doesn't make you less of a hunter just means that your story is different right and I. I would argue that that all of us probably have in our blood at some stage right. I mean that that is our history right and sisterly. Saying I'm I'm really sure that's exactly who It's funny you say that one of the videos the second video that we just dropped in my narrative. I I said you know. This woman got bashed for hunting Leopard and my narrative. I say you know. She's getting backed full. What humanity was built on which is hunting right humankind excellent? I agree and the amount of comments that I've received on that post to say who's this jackass talking talking about what humanity was built on it. So what do you think humanity was right. How do you think we got to who we ought today? How do you think our brains vault? How do you think we learned to survive or it was through hunting? Why do people have such a hard time with that? I think that today's society is very very much disconnected from. You know who was supposed to be. I think that we have a an ignorant viewpoint out there on what hunting is and that is an. I'm GONNA be very blunt here and that that's probably a result of hunters not understanding or not portraying there why we have. We have created a bad rap for ourselves over the last twenty to thirty years. Sure it self-imposed. Yeah but sometimes you know I look at the hunting community and I know guys in in the in the arena if you owe who Want all the praise and notoriety and I also know hunters who go go out and do it because it's their way of life and they don't post about it they don't talk about it they don't take pictures they just do their thing. And do you feel like those guys have an obligation Asian to share like what what's your stance on that. If they're not interested in sharing you know what I mean. It's hard because we run to this. The squeaky wheel gets the grease rice. So these these guys are like hey this is my way of life. I just do the thing I mean. I kind of feel like if you don't share to some degree then you allow those. Who are? Are the the the vocal people change. Potentially your way of life because you weren't willing to get involved well if you if you're GONNA if you're GonNa Moan and Groan about it then you definitely definitely have to get involved. No doubt But you know there's a certain something to hunters being hunters for who they are. Aw I think social media today unfortunately is is the downfall of hunting a the fact that you you know the whole idea of a trophy picture. Somebody a smiling right hand glean Lee behind this animal. And that's all you post inside. Big Buck downs will. That's that's unfortunately what's giving NASA bad rap because somebody who doesn't understand hunting somebody who doesn't understand the context of hunting somebody who has never experienced what that means and the effort with that has gone into that one picture. We'll see that picture and go. Oh wow they're just smiling because they killed some right but there's I mean we know that there's so much more behind that smile but that's all they see but that's all they see the hunting community to today. I believe that we have a new tribe. Believe that we have a new wave wave of hunters and their narrative changing what hunting is being perceived. As some that. It's you can have a trophy shot. There's nothing wrong with the trophy shots but this is something wrong with not providing the context behind what the trophy shop means. I think there's this thing that that hunters Naturally believe that people understand it so for example. I've posted some pictures of me with the dead animal that I'm that I'm proud about right. Because has I've gone through the effort and the work of harvesting animal and setting out and accomplishing. What it is I wanted to do and I have comments like? Are you gonna eat that to me. Like that is an ignorant question. Because WH- of course like what. What else would you do with it? So what that signifies to me is. Is that individual any individual who that just has no idea and I don't use the word ignorance as as a A criticism well maybe criticism. But I'm not saying that in a negative way I'm using ignorance as it's intended. Meaning you just don't know and because you're so disconnected elected Rod. You need him. You're connected from your food source because you can go to the grocery store and pick up a package of beef right and there's nothing wrong with that and I know that society today that is election action that we have. It's not the society that we had sixty seventy years ago where you had to go hunt for your food. You can go to the grocery store and get your food. It's just a choice at hunters. It does make to say I prefer to know food came from. I prefer to know how that animal diaper. I know that that animal lived a life that was the best life that possibly could live and then I took the most ethically clean. Painless instantaneous shot Possibly take and you. You know the package look. I'm not being hypocritical. I go to the store get short. I think most hunters probably due to some degree. And it's just that's part of the last style of hunting I will say they'll tell you one step further the whole food aspect. The food argument is one that is used at lots in a rhetoric against hunting. What do you mean and so so we don't need me? Is that what you're saying. Is that what they know. It's more like don't you shouldn't be hunting unless it's full food. Only that's the rhetoric that is used a lot against us as I guess. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that. Like what. What else would you be hunting for? Oh are you talking about animals that you wouldn't consume or I would be or somebody having Iraq or something on their wall. Okay so for for instance. I didn't go to Australia to hunt Buffalo for the for the meat right so why not go to Australia right right. Shame on you exactly and so. I went to WHO Australia to hunt at buffalo because it was a way for me to get into a place to see a place to go and push Kushma body to a place that I know that it could go to experience and adventure beyond belief and somebody would say he will rob. You could do that without clooney animal and I said No. I couldn't because I wouldn't have gone out in traveled three days I wouldn't expended all this money I wouldn't have gone push myself into the back country of no way. Probably no white man has ever walked before to connect to this this primal. ooh That's inside of me to just go right in underwrite and look at things. This is great now right. I can do that in my backyard..
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"All right we are back at Kroger feel that we are joined by mark stoops to talk about this defeat at the hands of the Gators here Kroger field I mean this is this it's to say it's a tough one as it ever tremendous understatement what did you talk to you guys about. well in our told and that obviously you know what should her as much as we invest in this input into it. it's gonna hurt you know that's that's. we all put an awful lot in this state get in that position. and and then you know but we got a. you know through adversity it kind of defines who you are as a team that we all look at everything every week when Ellis what can I do better. you know what are the good things we did but how can I get better help myself coaches players and just watch it because frustration sets in after a loss any you know we have to do like we all we should is is look at what we did good look what we did wrong you know how we get it fixed and and move on I mean that's just where it is through season you know I told only a year ago you know we had some tough losses in you know and then you go and play and you try to steal one you know it hurt or maybe you feel like it goes you know the ball bounces your way sometimes it doesn't it's a long hard season. and this was a difficult loss yeah posted comments by the way brought you by Kroger simple truth with coach dupes a you're pressed to do a a backup quarterback and so your thought did a lot of good things couple bad throws but the the turnovers rob is a big issue but he also a B. C. did some very good things size up his performance I thought he'd you know really did some good things obviously you know there's a couple of interceptions the jump out at you but but he. you know really threw the ball well one and gave us a position you know put us in a position to win this game in all two two one fourth down one third down we end up inches short. and feel will NO kicked it goes you know just wide right in other what otherwise you're sitting here saying a whole different tone that I'm sorry your help that too with under a minute to play yeah yeah you're talking about he was you know he he he had mistakes about he showed resiliency is gonna give you what you do quarterbacks well anybody to to shake off mistakes and come back and make plays at all that's what he's going to have to do moving forward because of this leak there's base some rough waters forty quarterback out without a doubt but you know he's he's resilient and did some really good times against a very good defense and. you know he he definitely got to build on the good things you did you sit there and play team there the ninth ranked team in the country and we sat there and did an awful lot of good things in the leading relation it's actually a one sack on a miscommunication yeah that was the. plus the sun that the target call was a huge win and then you could talk about officiating but it's it's a difficult spot because you know I I understand there's they're trying to protect players and yet it's difficult for players specially defensive players to understand what they could do I'm sure in I just. get out basically walked out at the end of a press conference on this it's just you know what what can you say I mean like a here's the frustration I mean is sit there and TJ there were trying like heck to win the game yeah we get suckered draped all over the quarterback you're trying to finish you know those guys their body control and everything there's all kind of crazy things going on a pocket. you know how do you know when their heads or drop in when they're not or whatever I mean it's it's so frustrating manages to lose a game on that basically because it will be third fourteen yeah Burton twenty so maybe so yeah I was third log and then Mr there for about ten thirty six and got it just yeah I mean just make shuttle benefits it's very very difficult order come back and continue to coach due to just a minute.
"kroger" Discussed on Classic Races
"Sponsored this racetrack. Only one driver has won the event more than once. That's morgan shepherd. He got the nineteen ninety two who and one thousand nine hundred four editions of the race since that time has been a variety of different drivers many of whom got their first and in many cases only nascar busch series victory at this racetrack distract. Steve grissom did that in nineteen ninety tracy leslie one for the first time in ninety three. Jason keller got his first win here. In nineteen ninety five is a number of other names on the winners list throughout the years ears but in tonight's race. There's only four drivers who are former winter's here. Defending winner randy love joy nineteen ninety-five winter jason keller the ninety three winner of the race tracy leslie and the nineteen ninety-seven winner of the kroger two hundred larry pearson the storylines of tonight's race will be hard competition including a high premium on passing with a heavy dose of pit strategy prodigy thrown in more on those story lines and visit trackside with some of the favorites to win tonight's kroger two hundred when we continue our coverage from indianapolis richard petty for new goodies p._m. Powder i want to tell you about something brand new from the folks that goodies his co. New goodies p._m. His the first nighttime pain reliever in powder reform new goodies p._m. Gets rid of pain fast like regular goodies hand. It has an extra ingredient to help you get to sleep so the next time you get one of those pan and headaches or early aches and pains and you can't sleep. Try new goodies p._m. Say good night to pain with new goodies p._m. Powder for occasional use as directed are you the die hard art van sears diehard batteries are radio or looking for the most devote in nascar fans in america. Do all of your kids have drivers names like kale daryl dale even the girls if someone said that that you were petty. Would you consider that a compliment. Tell us what makes you a die hard fan gear you be judged on creativity and originality twenty weekly winners will receive a die hard fan racing jacket. One of three refund lists will be the honorary starter of the heart. Five hundred talladega and attend nascar's award flight new york entries on supporting material not be returned mail your entry to 'em are in radio box twenty eight eighty eight daytona beach florida three to one set of rules rights marin radio contest ends september twenty first nineteen ninety-seven back at indianapolis raceway park counting down to the start of the kroger two hundred on a magnificent night to be at a race track. Anywhere in the united states could not count on better weather conditions than we've got tonight. Temperature's just cooling cooling-off from what was a pretty warm afternoon doubt a very pleasant shirtsleeves conditions here in the evening as the fan settle into their seats for the start of the event the driver who will lead the field of the green flag is the current series championship leader randy joy qualified at an average speed of one hundred eleven point one nine three miles our yesterday afternoon to take the bush poll joy up fifty eight points on todd bodine coming into the race won the pole and the race a year ago can become the first repeat winner of the kroger two hundred and back to back years. Jim phillips of newport tennessee. Tennessee is with randi joy. The first positive randy is going to sit in allie mae tonight. Your what are your favorite cars if not the favorite car randy bush pole winner last year again this year the race last year judging from practice. Is this car capable of winning tonight. Absolutely <hes> you know based motorsports race car on those especially allie mae here this is by my favor is growing. It has an attitude all its own just likes to go fast and outside is the way to go here in <hes> we're on inside so <hes> we got there in a hurry last year and and we'll hopefully get there in a hurry it again this year and if everything goes away pitstops crew has a good night. I hope they're being in victory lane. We need another win. We ever wondered about a month so <hes> say hi to my my family and all my friends back home and hopefully we'll put on a good show tonight when you were out there practicing today but like you said the outside lane is the way to go but is there other ways that you you could pass it this racetrack besides writing the outside yeah but he is in front of you don't like i should have put him. You know that's about the only way to do it. I mean you're gonna gonna have to run hard and you.
"kroger" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Kroger. A national ban on bump stocks goes into effect today back in December. The department of Justice announced the ban on the devices that allows a semiautomatic weapon to fire at the rate of an automatic weapon. He's were the same devices used by the shooter in Las Vegas open fired a concert killing fifty eight people owners above stocks have until today to either destroy them or turn them into an ATF field office to people have been displaced in a firefighter suffered minor injuries. After a fire broke out in college hill overnight damage to the home on Belmont avenue was estimated at two hundred fifty thousand dollars. No word yet on a cause. He'll go before a grand jury next week. Darius miller. Was arrested after leading police on a high speed chase Sunday night that reached over one hundred miles per hour. Police say Miller ran from a traffic stop in Anderson township and then had the pedal slammed to the floor for several miles before crashing on an exit ramp on I seventy one Miller told officers he did not want to pull over because he was driving a bootleg cab on a suspended license threats you in your life sentences is far from threatening me. Don't scare me. And now will not bow down you on your courts the man lashing out at a heavily county judge on Monday after being ordered to serve four consecutive life sentences for sexually assaulting his young daughters. Year-old Herman c will serve two hundred twenty one years while forty four year old angel estates will serve eighty six years in prison has both were sentenced Monday for raping three children over a fourteen year period in Norwood and Coleraine township both were charged with multiple counts of rape and one count of gross sexual imposition among other related charges. Both are also require. To register as tier three sex offenders, Sean Gallagher, NewsRadio seven hundred w l w whether looking great for opening day. The forecast is that plus.
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"kroger" Discussed on Classic Races
"Th and Curtis Markham thirty fifth met. Hunter is thirty six. Shane hall, thirty seven Tim feet with thirty eight and Kevin prints was thirty nine time of the race. One hour, forty four minutes and fifty one seconds. So about a half hour off the fastest of these Kroger to hundreds it's ever been run margin victory. One point four six eight seconds. Dale Earnhardt, jR, lead the final sixty two laps in route to victory. Six caution flags. Slowed the race we had three lead changes among four different drivers. In those are some of the numbers on tonight's Kroger. Two hundred what thanks Steve Harrison who served as our spotter here this evening and the voices. You heard call the action of the Kroger. Two hundred Mike Bagley in the back straightaway. Jim Phillips and Tony Rudy in the pit and garage areas. And now Joe more Alan best wick saying so long from Indianapolis. Dale Earnhardt junior has one tonight's Kroger. Two hundred. Immoral end radio. Coverage of NASCAR Busch series has come to you from the Indianapolis raceway park. The executive producer of them are in radio. David Hiatt national sales manager, Bruce Moseley, senior producer, Mark Williams. Chief engineer, Harry Howard broadcast engineers Cameron Smith and Larry Sweeney traffic on your Stephanie broadcast, Gordon eaters. Sandra good of relationship Marcello and Peter de Giorgio remote operations, David brand producers. Steve you see not production assistant, Robin vanden wrap. This is Rick Lewis. This broadcast was production of em are in radio a division of International Speedway corporation. MR ins throwback. Thursday has been brought to you by Kirke lease tires right on our strength, and by Sonoko, and grunt style throwback. Thursday could be found on demand at Marin dot com. I tunes Google play and soundcloud throwback Thursday is a production of the motor racing network. All rights reserved.
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"About the amazon effect on cbs this morning amazon has surging demand it has not stopped in this race to give us faster better cheaper at our doorstep it's really taking the supermarket and the mall and bringing it to us if you think about it that is enormously complicated and it's really maxed out amazon's ability to use partners like you know the us ps dhl ups fedex it's using them all to the max and so they can they keep up with the demand is up that much it's just so much that's the problem and of course it's going to grow from here so i mean prime is relatively speaking still pretty new and it already is is enormous it seems like we live in a world where everyone's trying to keep up with amazon amazon's having this problem at least they can afford to solve it right why what are other companies yes and i can afford to solve it largely because it is so focused on the consumer it just spends and spends suspense and not every company can do that so but but it's raised the bar so everyone has to keep up and it's all about this last mile which is the most important and the most complicated ticket right so companies like kroger are investing in startups that do automated warehouses and driverless cars to delivery that's a big new that's a big thing in the future that people have their hopes on of course we've all heard about the drones i don't know when that will really knows what will actually happen it's not so easy in cities especially but other companies target has partnered with a company called shipped to offer same days service same day delivery among other things so it's all about faster faster faster it's never been.
"kroger" Discussed on WNVZ Z104
"Those times we haven't forgotten the mother's day is coming up it's coming up this weekend and our friends at kroger have not.