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"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"There is always a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast. High. A Share and there you are. So, I've got some things. Some work being done on my house, which of course is not just my house anymore, right it's my office and exercise space. To my dorm and sometime dormitory and co working space. So getting these things done on the House I thought it was all going to be done this morning but but they're on the other side Chris if you hear. I. Mean I don't hear anything sitting here but you're. Okay 'cause you're I mean. But your ears in quotation marks are often so much more. Sensitive than mine. Yeah. No they're they're mostly they're scraping like it's noisy over there, but they're not banging so that I think it'll come through. Okay Sharon I'm so happy to have you. I'm so happy to. Be With you. Chris. How how are we let me push record over here Okay. Yeah? No, you sound great. The audio quality is great. That's good. Yeah. Okay, yeah. We actually redid this room in my house so I could do audio version in my book. Oh. Oh. Total total torture doing because it was yeah. Boiling hot and. that. You know they say like people some the producer I guess would say. I. Hear the sound you hit the mic and then the send engineer would say. Birds. The birds are. Doing this audiovox is really exhausting is very tiring I mean I've I've I've to drop into this low almost whisper to keep going. All right. Well, let's let's plunge in I you know I've I've I've mentioned to you in online interactions that you've been very present to me. I've been learning from you this year. And and you know obviously. We go a long way back at this point I mean, if you if you kind of added up the hours, we spent in the same room I don't think it would it would represent kind of the long. Conversation. You know and so. And also between the blog and in your books and the time I've spent the time we have spent together me often in the chair of the student but sometimes Tom Sometimes, as the interviewer and then. Yeah, this year and with the shelter for the heart and mind Retreat. which was a flexible retreat that I could do. Spread out in my house So an in the book and the New Book Change. So I want to we will. We'll. We'll kind of we'll get to a lot of that. We'll touch on a lot of that But I guess I. Don't know there's not a but but. You know what? I is just such a I mean what are your twenty twenty and Oh my God you know I I guess I kind want to sit with you. Just as a with your wisdom and presence as a teacher right now and even in in a way that feels. Different Than I. I don't know an interview on might have done a year ago or even six months ago really kind of draw you out on some of the things that you've that you know and that you've been teaching that. Are just helping me and you know maybe we'll help others so. Kind of just see where this goes but I'll So I've I've been journaling a lot this year and. a lot and and and what's interesting is I was doing a lot of these sessions with you. And Joseph Goldstein and You know sometimes taking notes and they kind of find their way in the middle of all the other notes I'm taking about everything else. which was which was great and then it kind of flowed into it So. So yes. So you and I have spoken on the air, a couple of times and And I know that this question I, I often ask about the spiritual background of someone's childhood You know I, know that. That we're in a time of kind of what can feel chaos and collapse and disorientation, and I also know that you're early life had those a lot of those qualities. and I'm one of the things I've learned this year including from Pauline boss the wonderful psychologist is that is that one when we only experienced great losses and certainly these collective losses. That it can take us back to our original losses to the kind of landscape of loss in our life, and so I I kind of am curious if that's if that's true for you and what I what I also WanNa say. Is that experiencing you? As one has been able to do this year online at teaching which has really had to me the intimacy of the teaching everything online hasn't but I also, really. You feel like someone who has so lived into so is so settled into grounded in. Her hard won wisdom. So. Yeah I. think There's a question in an observation in there I'm and I'm curious about. How what that? What that? Draws, out of you. Thank you so much for all of that I mean contact we've had found. Beautiful. It stretches back to speaking of faith. Yeah. I was writing a book on faith and not many people were interested in talking to about if anybody now especially Buddhist I. Thank. You know one of the great comments I was teaching Klaus. said. Working on a book on faith and they said I came to Buddhism to get away from all that trap. Yeah Yeah so yeah no, it's. It's beautiful. Thank you for really saying all that I think You know I've always been a fan of New Year's Eve. It's so funny like I often said that is a Jew and a Buddhist an American I get three a year. One George said the Jewish new your. Sense of beginnings in. Letting go what sometimes is really hard year and Ritual. And having a sense of sometimes here at the insight Meditation Society We used to burn the calendar month month you know. Say That was really bad month but here we are you know possibility it's like the other face changed as a face of change that's like poignancy and you can't hold onto anything. Is the unexpected is that movement and then as the face of change that's beginnings. Openings in renewal and all of that, and so I recently. Had to look up somebody's email address and the last email I'd gotten from them. was New Year's Eve. This last this past New Year's Eve, and they were like I can't wait for twenty twenty. Such a tough year. You're right. You. Wait Yeah unbelievable it's just unbelievable. Just, going on I feel like I don't know I. Feel like the echo of my early losses I feel the echo of my early chaos, the your your mother died when you were quite young. Runner essentially lost to you. It sounds like yeah yeah. I wrote when I wrote that book faith I look back at my life I went to college at the age of sixteen and. I realize that by them lived in five different family configurations. Each of which had ended by. something. Drastically terrible like my mother dying my father's suicide attempt to things like that and so. It was pretty unremitting and it was actually that, of course. which set me to India the age of eighteen? Yes. Because I just. Had to find something that I think if I was going to describe myself in one word. At sixteen seventeen eighteen I'd.
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"High is at Arley. . Yes Hi Krista yes good to meet. . Thank you so much for doing this and I. . so apologize for the delay as we had in this totally unusual and I think it happened twice with you I. . Really Apologize. . No problem but but what we need to talk about has not. . diminished. . So here we are. . We have construction going on here in our in our studio and so like coming in. . itself is very quiet, but , there's just hammering as I walk in. . For an audio yeah program. . So good. . Are you? ? Are they going to I mean I don't hear it so. . Where where are you? ? Right now. . Are, , you talking to me? ? Yes. . Yeah. . I'm in North Gate Hall, , which is in. . The basement of the journalism department at UC Berkeley Okay Okay Yeah Berkeley. . Three blocks from our home. . Oh, , what a what a wonderful place to live. . <hes>. . I think we're pretty good here. . I. . Don't like to. . I. Don't . want to start talking about anything substantive until we're really doing it. So . yeah, , I. . Think we're fine. . Good and where you KRISTA. . Minneapolis. . Okay. . Yeah. . Yeah. . It's you'll. . You'll understand this <hes> I grew up in Oklahoma and kind of went far far far far far away and <hes>. . And that's become more important to me in these recent years that you know that he and <hes>, , and then our studios in Minneapolis has been for a long time and. . I've thought across the years about how the show might have been served by being on one of the coasts and. . And in these last few years since two thousand sixteen. . I'm I'm so glad we're in the middle of the country you know. . It's Really important in life giving. . So. . Good Yeah So, , you were the child of a Foreign Service officer. . So you sound like you grew up all over the world. . Well. . Yes to to some degree. . Yeah. . Starting at age twelve. . Yeah it was pivotal. . Father was ambassador us. . Ambassador to New Zealand. . Ghana and Tunisia. . Yeah we don't need to go into his rank spread. . Yeah. . But did you live where those places you lived in I <hes> lived in Israel? ? And from aged twelve to fourteen, , very pivotal experience. . And <hes> then <hes>. . New Zealand Wellington New Zealand. . The university. . <hes> there <hes> Victoria University so <hes> in New Zealand and then <hes> my folks <hes> were in Ghana and I spent a summer. . Ana But by then I was in college and then they weren't Tunisia and I. . Actually spent <hes> five months a doing a study on the emancipation of Tunisia and girls so. . These French questionnaires. . Second Year of Grad School at Berkeley. . So. . <hes> yes. . So I was very. . Fortunate, , really to <hes>, , get to experience all that. . Yeah. . Yeah was there <hes> a religious or spiritual background to your childhood <hes> in your family or in those places? ? Yeah. . Yeah. . I would say there there was <hes>. . And <hes>. . So. . Are we starting your going? ? Yeah. . All right okay. . <hes> yeah <hes> my parents were very religious, , unitarian? ? And <hes>. . So religious in the sense of it being a very important thing to go to church on Sunday and. . My brother and I would. . Kind of. . Wrestle with each other and tickle. . In the back seat of her whole sudden Hudson in Silver Spring Maryland and <hes>. . <hes>. . And Go. . Drive to all souls UNITARIAN church in Washington DC very important to my father especially and I didn't feel particularly religious. . At that point and. . But if I look back on it what. . <hes> the influence of that was is that. . There's <hes>. . An important part of one's self to express and <hes> to learn to develop and that. . For. . UNITARIAN inside the message I took away is that it's very big world and we have to learn to. . <hes> get to know and. . Empathize with. . People in radically different cultures and that that's a good thing to live in a big world. . I think by the time I was. . Sixteen. . I had that message, , but I felt something missing. . And <hes> I got interested in quakers who? ? Be Much. . More. . Okay Gang. . So what are we going to do about it? ? You know view terriers were very talky. . Talkers talk talk of the thinkers looked like they were kind of. . <hes> interesting. . They were doers, , and so I would say. . That that. . Connection for me. . <hes> when I was in high school <hes>, , very informal I didn't become a former quaker anything. . But <hes>. . It led me to <hes> volunteer on weekends when I was in high school <hes>. . At something we called Neighbourhood House on tenth and L.. . Street. . was in the middle of the. . <hes> the back area of Washington
Arlie Hochschild with Krista Tippett
"High is at Arley. Yes Hi Krista yes good to meet. Thank you so much for doing this and I. so apologize for the delay as we had in this totally unusual and I think it happened twice with you I. Really Apologize. No problem but but what we need to talk about has not. diminished. So here we are. We have construction going on here in our in our studio and so like coming in. itself is very quiet, but there's just hammering as I walk in. For an audio yeah program. So good. Are you? Are they going to I mean I don't hear it so. Where where are you? Right now. Are, you talking to me? Yes. Yeah. I'm in North Gate Hall, which is in. The basement of the journalism department at UC Berkeley Okay Okay Yeah Berkeley. Three blocks from our home. Oh, what a what a wonderful place to live. I think we're pretty good here. I. Don't like to. I. Don't want to start talking about anything substantive until we're really doing it. So yeah, I. Think we're fine. Good and where you KRISTA. Minneapolis. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's you'll. You'll understand this I grew up in Oklahoma and kind of went far far far far far away and And that's become more important to me in these recent years that you know that he and and then our studios in Minneapolis has been for a long time and. I've thought across the years about how the show might have been served by being on one of the coasts and. And in these last few years since two thousand sixteen. I'm I'm so glad we're in the middle of the country you know. It's Really important in life giving. So. Good Yeah So, you were the child of a Foreign Service officer. So you sound like you grew up all over the world. Well. Yes to to some degree. Yeah. Starting at age twelve. Yeah it was pivotal. Father was ambassador us. Ambassador to New Zealand. Ghana and Tunisia. Yeah we don't need to go into his rank spread. Yeah. But did you live where those places you lived in I lived in Israel? And from aged twelve to fourteen, very pivotal experience. And then New Zealand Wellington New Zealand. The university. there Victoria University so in New Zealand and then my folks were in Ghana and I spent a summer. Ana But by then I was in college and then they weren't Tunisia and I. Actually spent five months a doing a study on the emancipation of Tunisia and girls so. These French questionnaires. Second Year of Grad School at Berkeley. So. yes. So I was very. Fortunate, really to get to experience all that. Yeah. Yeah was there a religious or spiritual background to your childhood in your family or in those places? Yeah. Yeah. I would say there there was And So. Are we starting your going? Yeah. All right okay. yeah my parents were very religious, unitarian? And So religious in the sense of it being a very important thing to go to church on Sunday and. My brother and I would. Kind of. Wrestle with each other and tickle. In the back seat of her whole sudden Hudson in Silver Spring Maryland and And Go. Drive to all souls UNITARIAN church in Washington DC very important to my father especially and I didn't feel particularly religious. At that point and. But if I look back on it what. the influence of that was is that. There's An important part of one's self to express and to learn to develop and that. For. UNITARIAN inside the message I took away is that it's very big world and we have to learn to. get to know and. Empathize with. People in radically different cultures and that that's a good thing to live in a big world. I think by the time I was. Sixteen. I had that message, but I felt something missing. And I got interested in quakers who? Be Much. More. Okay Gang. So what are we going to do about it? You know view terriers were very talky. Talkers talk talk of the thinkers looked like they were kind of. interesting. They were doers, and so I would say. That that. Connection for me. when I was in high school very informal I didn't become a former quaker anything. But It led me to volunteer on weekends when I was in high school At something we called Neighbourhood House on tenth and L.. Street. was in the middle of the. the back area of Washington
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"Veterans new study what does spirituality mean to us reveals how spirituality informs our understanding of ourselves and each other and inspires us to take action for the common good explore these findings and more at spirituality study got org. I'm Krista Tippett up next Mike unedited conversation with the esteemed sociologist of emotion arly Scheldt. There is always a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast. High is at Arley. Yes Hi Krista yes good to meet. Thank you so much for doing this and I. so apologize for the delay as we had in this totally unusual and I think it happened twice with you I. Really Apologize. No problem but but what we need to talk about has not. diminished. So here we are. We have construction going on here in our in our studio and so like coming in. itself is very quiet, but there's just hammering as I walk in. For an audio yeah program. So good. Are you? Are they going to I mean I don't hear it so. Where where are you? Right now. Are, you talking to me? Yes. Yeah. I'm in North Gate Hall, which is in. The basement of the journalism department at UC Berkeley Okay Okay Yeah Berkeley. Three blocks from our home. Oh, what a what a wonderful place to live. I think we're pretty good here. I. Don't like to. I. Don't want to start talking about anything substantive until we're really doing it. So yeah, I. Think we're fine. Good and where you KRISTA. Minneapolis. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's you'll. You'll understand this I grew up in Oklahoma and kind of went far far far far far away and And that's become more important to me in these recent years that you know that he and and then our studios in Minneapolis has been for a long time and. I've thought across the years about how the show might have been served by being on one of the coasts and. And in these last few years since two thousand sixteen. I'm I'm so glad we're in the middle of the country you know. It's Really important in life giving. So. Good Yeah So, you were the child of a Foreign Service officer. So you sound like you grew up all over the world. Well. Yes to to some degree. Yeah. Starting at age twelve. Yeah it was pivotal. Father was ambassador us. Ambassador to New Zealand. Ghana and Tunisia. Yeah we don't need to go into his rank spread. Yeah. But did you live where those places you lived in I lived in Israel? And from aged twelve to fourteen, very pivotal experience. And then New Zealand Wellington New Zealand. The university. there Victoria University so in New Zealand and then my folks were in Ghana and I spent a summer. Ana But by then I was in college and then they weren't Tunisia and I. Actually spent five months a doing a study on the emancipation of Tunisia and girls so. These French questionnaires. Second Year of Grad School at Berkeley. So. yes. So I was very. Fortunate, really to get to experience all that. Yeah. Yeah was there a religious or spiritual background to your childhood in your family or in those places? Yeah. Yeah. I would say there there was And So. Are we starting your going? Yeah. All right okay. yeah my parents were very religious, unitarian? And So religious in the sense of it being a very important thing to go to church on Sunday and. My brother and I would. Kind of. Wrestle with each other and tickle. In the back seat of her whole sudden Hudson in Silver Spring Maryland and And Go. Drive.
Character of God: A Cup of Wrath?
"Okay, here we are we are talking about. Anger. We're talking about God's. and. We're talking about exodus thirty, four versus six and seven were said to be slow to anger, and here in this conversation is like the previous conversations, Tim Tim. Hi And KRISTA accuracy. So Let's jump right in. We've just kind of been taking ground Tim you've been walking us through some of the revelations you've had studying God's anger and God's judgments I don't know if Chris you're Tim WanNa do a bit of a summary Or. If you want me to or do you WanNa just jump right in share I can go for it. Okay. So the first thing we talked about was that this is kind of an uncomfortable topic for a lottery. Reasons that anger is a difficult thing for us to understand in humans and also in God. So we talked about that. We talked about how God's anger God's judgment are not intertwined in the biblical story. So God gets angry without judging. Actually he shows acts of mercy the first time that he gets angry and then he judges often or brings justice without being angry we talked about how bringing judgement or justice is often a handing over to natural consequence or to. Zion that actually I started avoiding the word natural. Because that's just loaded with some modern concepts I actually struggling to find a good replacement word, but it's the logical outcome. Hands people over to the cause effects sequence that they have chosen. Started themselves something like that yes. Oh, we looked at the first occurrence of God's anger with. Moses. After he resists being God's Prophet five times and that's followed by an act of mercy. He just says, okay. Well, I'll send Aaron with you to help you out. We looked at the incident of the golden calf where God gets angry at the people and talked about how his Anger a lot of times is related to to his people not trusting him or or breaking the relationship with him. So a lot of times, his anger or his judgment occur in that context. So that tells us something about divine anchor consum- some red. Okay. Anything else good summary. So I think where we WANNA come from here then is just look at main portraits of God's anger in the Torah in the Prophets of Old Testament and then. After. That in the story of Jesus how Jesus Came as a as a prophet of good news in Israel. But also that comes with a warning of God's judgement, and then after that exploring God's anger in especially in the letters the Apostle Paul he he's got a pretty nuanced way of talking about it. So the Torah, the Prophets Jesus and then Paul that's the roadmap simple. So. Okay. So let's we already talked about the three first occurrences of God's anger. They're all in the book of Exodus when Moses Stubborn and resist. You just Kinda summarize Krista the second one is after Pharaoh and his army perish in the Red Sea. There's a poem that Moses Miriam Sang about it and they talk about how what happened to Pharaoh was instance of God's anger to bring barrels evil back on himself and then the story of the Golden Calf and we talked about that a fair amount in the last conversation I wanted kind of zero in on it as we start actually here and I've been reflecting on that last conversation then I think I have a few. Better ways to to say it what divine an anger means in the story of the Golden Calf. So God gets angry of Moses Beckett Exodus three. But as you said, he doesn't act in any kind of severe way. Does it at the burning Bush inside the burning Bush when you get to the people all of a sudden God is angry and he wants to destroy his people to to bring an end to them is what he says to Moses give me rest I want to bring an end to them and that is severe. John Every time. Read it. It makes you little allergic and uncomfortable. So here's a way to think about it. The whole narrative of the biblical story is got a point humans to be as representatives in the world they rebel they WANNA, get blessing by their own wisdom, and so they you know take from the Tree God, exiles them, and what they do is corrupt and ruin the land through violence and bloodshed flood. God appoints a new humanity noah, his wife and his family, and they go and repeat everything that Adam and eve and their kids did from the chapters genesis. So God tries this new strategy of investing in one particular family out of all the nations that's Abraham and so. Pretty much from Abraham four word God it's as if the more corrupt humans become, the more tightly got binds himself to one particular Human Family through these covenant promises and these Covenant Promises Create More Complexity for God's purpose not less 'cause. Now God's committing himself investing himself allowing certain people to be as representatives, but there are no better in fact, they're often worse than other people. So by the time you get to the Mount Sinai. God has married himself to a whole nation of people and we talked about this principle that I tend to get more emotionally stirred up by people the. More emotionally connected to this kind of a natural thing. So I think that's actually a really important dynamic 'cause the rest of the Old Testament. After Abraham is all about God's relationship to one family, and what you'll see is that God gets most angry in the all estimate at the people who are most close to him and I think that's important because that's actually part of the Messianic trajectory of the Old Testament. Story. Is that these people are selected from among the nations to get God's blessing but that also makes them more liable to God's justice than your average whatever ancient Babylonian something because God didn't rescue the Babylonians out of Egypt. So they're not as obligated to be faithful to him but when the people that he did rescue are not faithful to him it makes him more angry. This helps us at least begin to think about God's intense anger in the Old Testament is mostly directed to the people of Israel and the golden calf story is a good good example of that.
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"We talked about in this show tradition. There is always a shorter produce version of this wherever you found this podcast. Good afternoon. And welcome to poetry and on being with. Krista, Tippett and Jericho. Brown. Yes you can wish. Yes. Yes. We. Have a rare opportunity to sit in on a private conversation with Krista in Jericho this afternoon. Thank you for joining us. Here, at the Dodge Poetry Festival, we've always felt that one of the essential qualities of poetry is the questions. It asks that continuously ask questions about what it means to be human being. Doesn't always give the answers, but it s important questions for over fifteen years on on being other radio programs. KRISTA. Tippett has been asking those same essential questions to poets, artists, musicians, astrophysicists, philosophers, mathematicians, a whole amazing array of people with very different points of view. So it seemed to us an absolute natural to bring together. Her questioning curious mind and the perspective of on being, which is to ask essential questions about what does that mean to be a human being with the dodge poetry festival. So we are thrilled that the first of these three conversations are happening today the you're with us please help me welcome Krista Tippett and Jericho Brown..
4 Ways to Live Each Day With Intention by Shelley Levitt
"For ways to live each day with intention by. Shelley. Levitt with live. Happy Dot. com. I WANNA move through life energy and a sense of discovery achievement, joy and engagement. That is my intention. My hope is that living according to it would be the antidote. The uneasy feeling I often have at the end of the day when I flop into bed filled with self-reproach and wonder where my time went. My. Intent is to be guided by purpose instead of feeling that I'm spending my time haphazardly succumbing to whim or distraction according to expert Mallika Chopra creator of the website intense dot com and psychologist Eliot. Berkman. Head of the social ineffective neuroscience lab at the University of Oregon setting intentions. Confession is a kind of internal northstar lighting, the path to greater fulfillment and life satisfaction. These are the changes I've made in the few weeks since setting my intention. Number One, I meditate almost daily. Is taking me years to commit to a meditation habits but the ten or fifteen minutes I spent doing a guided meditation on the common APP has been transformative. The turning point was a workshop I took with so Kessedjian Norman Fisher, a poet and Zen Buddhist priest. When people say they don't have time to meditate. He said I asked them how do you have time to not meditate with a regular mindfulness practice he went on you'll have fewer accidents you lose things less frequently your focus will improve making decisions will become easier. Remarkably found all these things to be true and when I'm feeling stressed I summoned the image I visualized during my meditation I imagine my breath as a long string of pearls and it helps reconnect with that experience of stillness yet as good as meditation makes me feel I'll skip it unless I keep to a schedule. So make sure to meditate daily at eleven am with four PM has a backup. Number two, I've stopped binging on the news. More than ever I. Feel it's important to stay informed but watching new show afternoons show wasn't bringing greater insight into the issues. I care about is only fueling a sense of outrage and I'm happy to have added The Washington Post, my beloved New, York Times subscription reading either one in bed was only deepening my chronic insomnia. So of made some rules, no new shows or Newspapers after nine. PM. Instead I think about how? I WanNa feel inspired amused transported and lanes and I choose what I want to read watch listen to based on that this has led to fewer hours with CNN and more with globe netflix's comedy about a real life women's wrestling league from the eighties the on being with Krista Tippett podcast and Elena Ferrante as beautiful Neapolitan novels. Number three, I cook more. I'd like to lose five or ten pounds, but resolving to lose weight is usually both joyless an unsuccessful. So instead I think about nourishing myself in ways that will align with my intention to feel more energize. And that helps to your me away from takeout Chinese food and into my kitchen when I cook pots of Faro. Embrace Swiss chard practice poaching the perfect tag and dig into cookbooks like Paulo I of food of Morocco and what to eat for how you feel the new all your data kitchen by divvy alter. And try new dishes like Paulo's egg plans a luke or devious sprouted among solid also experienced that sense of discovery and achievement that I'm looking for. Number four, I do at least one new thing each weekend. I've been having all sorts of new experiences, a meeting interesting people volunteering to do kitchen prep at a food pantry hiking trail taking a class in brewing booja walking the Los Angeles River in a meet up led by long distance, swimming champion Diane, and yet attending a talk by no Levine author of Dharma police at the inaugural Budapest in La. Some outings have turned out to be less than inspired. The less said about the mass meditation held at a conscious life expo the better but I always feel like falling through on my intention to step outside my comfort zone. I'm far from living completely in line with my intentions. Three countless ways I stray from the path but feeling courage rather than defeated I've more clarity about the way in which small things Afar too messy desk and unmade bed can undermine your vision of how you want your life to unfold and I think it'll be able to put some new habits in place soon.
Why 2020 hasnt taken Rev. angel by surprise
"At such a pace what we're experiencing now in our society were just cycling through it were digesting the material of the misalignment were digesting the material of how intolerable it is to be intolerant. We're digesting the material if four, hundred, five, Hundred Years of historical context that we have decided to leave behind. Our heads and we are choosing to turn over our shoulders and say I must face this because it is intolerable to live in any other way than away that allows me. To be in contact with my full loving human self. I feel like you. Name something here. That this evolution, we were in a moment we're using this language of the moment. and. We we were already in the moment in a way we were building to this in all its complexity. Yes which not all pretty and not all hopeful, but it's all of a piece. You know I wonder yeah. Were You Almost WANNA ask you you know I want to ask you how I WanNa ask you this personally as well as in terms of drawing out your wisdom, your spiritual wisdom I wonder if the price you. Know. That at all. I think we are This body. This body that we call a nation is ready for this. And Anybody that has had a great amount of. Toxicity as part of the IT system has to heave out that toxicity. And we've had a lot of ways to suppress it and a lot of ways to get it a lot of ways to. Purchase things and distract ourselves and Watch net flicks. All sorts of other things that we can do. But. We have had a long history in this country. It's sort of baked into the structure of. The design I talk a lot about the design of this country to have so many people disembodied. And I think that we had an amazing extraordinary painful. And yet collective experience of a sufficient quieting. Allowed us to feel this collective body that we are as a nation. New and there's a whole bunch of. Individual bodies in there that said enough. I can't I can't tolerate this. What is here? Because I can feel it now I can see it and The uprisings and the particular. The potency of. George. Not only his death, the means of his death and the. The expression of his death and I mean. Literally, right the expression. The physical embodiment, the expression on the officer's face. The expression of his death through the media, the expression of his death. Was Too much for this body to continue to bear. Yeah. I. Also think about how? Soft we were. Elected body and our individual bodies. We had each and every one of us whatever their circumstances of our lives kind of felt for the ground beneath our feet. And our defenses down. There the pandemic created A. Four strict treat. Wounds we unforced retreat. and. I've done retreat many years. And there's always this point in during retreat where you feel you're not knowing come into. Into into your view. There's there's one thing to move around the world and say, Oh, I don't know we have not. No. It's another thing to just feel it to to come into confrontation. With your knowing and it is tender as you said, like it is a tender. Place to be in confrontation with that and and it's different. I think entirely. To have been not just individual, but to also feel the reverberations of. The collective not knowing. And as a as a country, we've
Mary Oliver Is Listening to the World
"The question I always start with whether I'm interviewing physicist or poet is I'd like to hear whether there was a spiritual background here life early life your childhood however, you would define it now. Well I would defied it very differently from what I was a child. I was said to Sunday school as many kids are. And then I had trouble with the resurrection. So I would not join the church but I was still probably more interested than many of the kids did at enter the church it's been one of the most important interests of my life. And continues to be. And it doesn't have to be Christianity I'm very much taken with the poet. Rumi who is a Muslim Sufi poet. And read him every day. and. Have no answers but have some suggestions I know that a life is much richer with spiritual. Part. To it. And I also think nothing is more interesting. So I, cling to it right and then. You I mean you talk about growing up in a sad depressed place a difficult place I mean in another you don't you don't Belabor this I mean in another place there's a place you talk about. Your one of many thousands who've had insufficient childhoods. But that you spend a lot of your time walking around the woods. Yes Ohio I did and and I think it saved my life. I to this day I, don't care for the enclosure of buildings. It was a very bad childhood. For everybody, every member of the household, not just myself I. Think. And I escape did. Barely with years of. Trouble. But I did find that the entire world. In looking for something. But. I got saved by poetry and I got saved by the beauty of the world. Yeah and and there's such a convergence of those things. Yeah. It seems all the way through in your life as a poet. It is it is a convergence and. Have a little difficulty now having lived for fifty years in small town in the north. I'm trying very hard to love the mangroves. Well I know it takes a while I have to say you and your poetry. For. Me are so closely identified with province town this and that part of the world and. And that kind of dramatic weather. Yes. Kind of shore. Yes. and so when I you know and I had this amazing opportunity to come visit you and I and I look and great, we're going to Cape Cod. To Florida. Well, I just sold by Condo to a very dear. this summer. And I bought a little house start here, which is needs very serious reconstruction. So I'm not yet. But sometimes, it's time for the age. Though for all those years for decades of your writing. This picture was there view this pleasure of walking and writing and? I don't know standing with your notebook. Yes and actually writing while you're walking. Yes. I did it and it is, and it seems like such a gift that you've found that way to be a writer and have that daily. Have Well I. Don't as I say I don't like buildings. Yeah. So I was I the only the only record I broken in school was truancy. I went to the woods a lot with with books right Whitman in the. Knapsack. But I also liked motion. So I just began with these little notebooks and scribbled things as I they came to me and then work them into poems later. And always I wanted the I many of the poems I did this I did this. I saw this I I wanted them the I to be the possible reader. rather than about myself it was about an experience that happened to be mind but could well have been anybody else's and that was my feeling about the I. I have been criticized by one editor who felt that the I would be felt as ego. And I thought well I'm going to risk it and see. And I think it worked. It adjoined. The reader into the experience of the poem. I became the kind of person who did the walking in the scribbling yeah. But shared it. Yeah. If if they wanted it, yes. You also use this word. You know there's this place where you're talking about. Writing while walking listening deeply and I love this listening listening conviviality. Yes. Yeah and listening really to the world the stick to the world. Well, I I did that I still do it. I still
[Unedited] Michael McCarthy with Krista Tippett
"I'm so delighted to be. Speaking with you. I can't tell you how much I love your book and I'm telling everyone about it. Yeah. It's as marked up. Emmy Book I have ever read. In the Bible including the Bible and I picked it up just on a table in a bookstore in Saint Paul Minnesota Twin cities. Different questions for me before we get going I think. Okay. I'm happy to respond to you. Yeah I don't I. So I don't usually do Generally do book interviews but really, and I've dug little bit and I've also looked at your. Some. Of Your other writing but I really. So so we're we're not talking about the book, but essentially we're talking about. Everything, the book is about. So I yeah so Chris I think we're good great. Okay. Yes and so we have a nice amount of time to have a big. Real wandering conversation. I would like to start I I I. Start Most of my interviews with a question just just wondering about The religious or spiritual background of someone's childhood I find. That is a very fertile place and everybody's imagination whatever their story is. It's full of questions and searching and softness so. However you would. However, you would begin to to think of that. How would you? How would you Described the religious or spiritual background of your childhood. I would use a curious phrase to describe. What I am now I would describe myself as an ethnic Catholic. Okay. that was a phrase I can't claim authorship of it was used by. British woman politician about twenty years ago meaning there's I grew up a Roman Catholic. and I have abandoned the faith. The formerly at any right but the belief system if not not necessarily. Belief in heaven now but the. The sense of right and wrong I think Stays with you all your life and you relate to it. Was it Mary? McCarthy who read a book called wants to Catholic. And I think the sense of right and wrong and also I think he'll go strong sets. Of Original Sin Yeah I. Think I'm quite aware that is a very dark side to the species mom. If, we can say that these days I think the the species is still called mind it's a human being. and so even though I'm not formally religious. I, like to think I. Suppose that I carry with me what people might describe as a religious sensibility. And I feel like right at the beginning of of your book The Moss snowstorm nature enjoy. You I mean this is this is a this is a book about our bond with the natural world. Right and you and you start it. It's also woven, and that bond is both civilizational. It's at once civilizational and species something about our species, but it's also personal. and so and you do we've that personal story all the way through your reflection on this large subject. End You know you're use the word a soul in this way rather early you describe your mother's illness and She she was away for a time institutionalized and. One of the things that happened to you as a child is it you you had a lack of feeling about that. that you could perceive, but then you describe this day. And here's just the sentences. That there was a singular window. Of observing butterflies and he said when I was a skinny kid in short pants, butterflies entered my soul. So where'd you just tell a little bit of that story as and why that is a vantage point for you on again, this large civilizational issue. It was really just a personal way. Of, my own way through my own personal experience. Of. Beginning explore. the strange conundrum which it seems to me that we can actually love very fiercely the natural world I we sort of take that for granted as commonplace. But as I got older, it seemed to me rather curious phenomenon because after all the natural world is only the the environment from which we emerge to species like every other species. Unlike. Every other species there are two things that they're not sure world has for us. One is danger. One is utility because the natural world can be dangerous and it can kill you. You can have thousands of people killed by snakes in India every year still or not show world can be a great advantage. It can provide you food and shelter and various other things. And all species are aware even if instinctively of these things but we have a third thing, which is that we can actually love the natural world.
Why Is a Brain-Shaped Blob In Canada?
"Stuff. This is Krista. Sager. lagoons are famous for creepy swamp preachers but in Canadian Park in Vancouver British, Columbia scientists have found something possibly just as outlandish a slimy gelatinous brain blob. Well, okay. It's not really a brain and it's not really even an it. It's a collection of tiny creatures collectively called a magnificent bryozoans or also known by its Latin name as Pectin Tele. MAGNIFICO this colony forms a brain shaped mass can grow to be larger than a human head and I think we can all agree that's a really weird now bryozoans sometimes, they're also called Maas animals there an. Ancient Group of filter feeders. The earliest fossil evidence of one of these colonies can be dated back about four hundred, seventy, million years individually each tiny invertebrate called Zo Lloyd Ken just barely be seen with the naked eye it's only about half a millimeter or about point zero, two inches long. But when hundreds of them assemble, they can glue themselves together with a special protein to form all sorts of shapes, sheets, columns, and even branched tree like structures. Now, actually, fossilized bryozoans are among the world's most abundant fossils as well, and you can find them in rocks originating more than four hundred. And fifty million years ago up until the present, their colonies start with a single zoysia which asexually reproduces until it's got an entire army of clones to hang out with most bryozoans, species live in marine habitats but the one found in Vancouver's Stanley Park belongs in freshwater it just doesn't really belong in Vancouver Canada this August the Stanley. Park Ecology Society held its annual bio blitz a community event in which citizens scientists survey the park identifying hundreds of organisms in twenty four hours in the lost lagoon, which is the parks bio filtration pond blitz goers discovered the giant slimy football shaped. Bribes zone thousands of miles from home. Their usual range is decidedly to the south of Canada and east of the Mississippi River and it turns out. This isn't the first time. A magnificent bryozoans has been found in this part of Canada and nobody can tell whether they're staying either. But why they're there is a different question like with most migrating or these days warming global temperatures might have opened the door of the great white north to these probably ecologically harmless blobs they need a water temperature warmer than sixty degrees Fahrenheit or sixteen degrees Celsius in order to make a go of it.
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"I'm KRISTA Tippett up next my unedited conversation with artist philosopher Dario Rope tow. There is a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast. Ning and. Welcome back to winter. Someone someone wrote me today instead it's raining feathers. So welcome to the institute. I'm Liz Armstrong. Curator. Of Contemporary Art, and we are very pleased to be hosting the second live interview with Krista Tippett for her show and broadcast of on being. As. Many of you know Christa was here two months ago when she spoke with Hamilton and what was a fascinating and far-reaching conversation they covered everything from spiritual act of art making to the strange intimacy of museums where people can be alone together. The the this interview, and that one we're presented. In conjunction with the exhibition currently on view. In our target wing simply called sacred, which is a series of installations, the probe, the nature of the sacred within a secular multi-faith society. By, juxtaposing works of art from Multiple Times in places, the sacred exhibition invites visitors to explore historic and contemporary. Expressions of the divine, the spiritual, the essential in the beloved and to ponder the words meaning in their personal lives. I want to thank the MIA's affinity collectors, group contemporary art for their support of this program, and for helping us visits from artists such as Hamilton. Dario. And now let me just briefly introduce each of our guests. KRISTA Tippett Enduro. Christie needs little introduction on this stage. She's a peabody award winning broadcaster and New York Times bestselling author WHO's highly acclaim radio program on being fills a huge void in the public discussion of spirituality and faith. She's not afraid to. to discuss the big animating questions of human life from how do we want to live to what does it mean to be human? She and her guests explore meaning ethics and what is sacred miss the political cultural and technological turmoil that is first century life. Dario fo was houston-based artists who's known for his highly original repurposing of rare and archaic materials. Like a DJ sampling music and he just told me tonight, he was a DJ once Doria spins in shapes such unconventional materials as dinosaur fossils, meteorite remnants, hand bones, and hipbones, and pulverized vinyl from vintage records. He's been called materials poet. I think of him as a passionate alchemist who memorialize the past while finding new meaning in the tangled roots its history. He's a maker of extraordinary objects that are meditations on war, love death, spirituality, and healing. It's going to be really interesting to him talk about these objects without seeing them. But you can imagine and then you will see them So I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Please join me in welcoming Chris step and Dario. Thank you lose. It's great to be back at Minneapolis Institute of Arts. Feel like I'm an old timer now. So I welcome you. So, Dr. you grew up in San Antonio I grew up in Oklahoma. It did not snow in March where we came from. I've really been looking forward to this for several months as way I planned it. Thank you. Very much. So if I ask you a about the spiritual and religious background of your childhood, where would you start to think about what that means? San Antonio is maybe Catholic central. In America So it's It's hard not to be around that in San Antonio. My grandfather was a Baptist minister. I didn't grow up around ten so much but his is influence definitely. was there the Beckham ahead? And he was definitely a passionate passionate man. My mother. Religion in the home was not ever really an issue but as. I searched it out on my own. I'd asked my friends I could come to church. Catholic methodist I probably sample every every church. Afraid I had. And? I continually. Even at that early age was was very, very interested. So my childhood it I would say it was very self directed. maybe always within the background knowing that thing about my grandfather, there was still this mysterious thing that I didn't really understand. So, maybe it was fairly field that to the searching. So. And also it sounds like you know you you were interested in science or football player. You weren't that kid who everybody thought would grow up to be an artist or that you didn't identify zone yeah. No, it was quite a shock. There are two stories that you've told across the years that I I wondered if you would. Tell us and one of them has to do with your mother. One of them has to do with your father about how you became an artist. You talk about your mother working in a Honky Tonk in Texas for while when you were pretty young. And going with her, and it really is the whole experience being there with her taking the people taking the life in that place taking in the music of Patsy cline and others and listening to the Jukebox, and it almost feels like the jukebox was your first art object although you wouldn't have called at that originally. Yes. Credibly, influential on my life definitely leaves a mark. How old were you? Then you're pretty young right? Six, six, seven. and. Their full range of emotional experiences you would imagine honky-tonk. As. A six year old camp next to the jukebox watching plough, it really deliver mark and. And in hindsight, I can look back and realize I think those are truly my first. Artistic Aesthetic experiences. In Dot. Art was actually life in those cases rather than just a symbol of life and what I mean is listening you're having patsy Kline Soundtrack. What I'm actually witnessing in the room as she singing about, it made this one to one connection. Between the pop song or the country song or the art object and life and I think That has left a lasting impression on me which ties into science and. Maybe an unexpected way in that. I, want what I do to be metaphor and have a practical I wanted to do something to in life. And that's per partly my science thinking but also it's very much rooted not in seeing. Music. Say. Soundtrack life but it really it was really predicting even predicting what I was saying in dog it up. And then The other stories later on your father was a biologist correct and. And it was from Nicaragua and you didn't really spend that much time with him going up. But then? You've told the story about sounds like when you were making your early twenties. You're depressed. He, went to stay with him in Miami and we have the Beatles to thank your father and the Beatles to thank for you truly having this epiphany. Nor really I didn't know what an epiphany was until I had one is really. Really. It really wasn't that. Within twenty four hours I still don't know how to explain it it. Truly. Artist and then I was an artist like that and. But I didn't know the first thing about our I. Didn't know what it was crazy. Then as it sounds say today and. It was related to this experience of. What was clearly deep depression Dow when I look back. Visiting him sort of every man has to come to terms with at some point and I I guess I needed to spend time with them..
[Unedited] Dario Robleto with Krista Tippett
"Ning and. Welcome back to winter. Someone someone wrote me today instead it's raining feathers. So welcome to the institute. I'm Liz Armstrong. Curator. Of Contemporary Art, and we are very pleased to be hosting the second live interview with Krista Tippett for her show and broadcast of on being. As. Many of you know Christa was here two months ago when she spoke with Hamilton and what was a fascinating and far-reaching conversation they covered everything from spiritual act of art making to the strange intimacy of museums where people can be alone together. The the this interview, and that one we're presented. In conjunction with the exhibition currently on view. In our target wing simply called sacred, which is a series of installations, the probe, the nature of the sacred within a secular multi-faith society. By, juxtaposing works of art from Multiple Times in places, the sacred exhibition invites visitors to explore historic and contemporary. Expressions of the divine, the spiritual, the essential in the beloved and to ponder the words meaning in their personal lives. I want to thank the MIA's affinity collectors, group contemporary art for their support of this program, and for helping us visits from artists such as Hamilton. Dario. And now let me just briefly introduce each of our guests. KRISTA Tippett Enduro. Christie needs little introduction on this stage. She's a peabody award winning broadcaster and New York Times bestselling author WHO's highly acclaim radio program on being fills a huge void in the public discussion of spirituality and faith. She's not afraid to. to discuss the big animating questions of human life from how do we want to live to what does it mean to be human? She and her guests explore meaning ethics and what is sacred miss the political cultural and technological turmoil that is first century life. Dario fo was houston-based artists who's known for his highly original repurposing of rare and archaic materials. Like a DJ sampling music and he just told me tonight, he was a DJ once Doria spins in shapes such unconventional materials as dinosaur fossils, meteorite remnants, hand bones, and hipbones, and pulverized vinyl from vintage records. He's been called materials poet. I think of him as a passionate alchemist who memorialize the past while finding new meaning in the tangled roots its history. He's a maker of extraordinary objects that are meditations on war, love death, spirituality, and healing. It's going to be really interesting to him talk about these objects without seeing them. But you can imagine and then you will see them So I'm really looking forward to this conversation. Please join me in welcoming Chris step and Dario. Thank you lose. It's great to be back at Minneapolis Institute of Arts. Feel like I'm an old timer now. So I welcome you. So, Dr. you grew up in San Antonio I grew up in Oklahoma. It did not snow in March where we came from. I've really been looking forward to this for several months as way I planned it. Thank you. Very much. So if I ask you a about the spiritual and religious background of your childhood, where would you start to think about what that means? San Antonio is maybe Catholic central. In America So it's It's hard not to be around that in San Antonio. My grandfather was a Baptist minister. I didn't grow up around ten so much but his is influence definitely. was there the Beckham ahead? And he was definitely a passionate passionate man. My mother. Religion in the home was not ever really an issue but as. I searched it out on my own. I'd asked my friends I could come to church. Catholic methodist I probably sample every every church. Afraid I had. And? I continually. Even at that early age was was very, very interested. So my childhood it I would say it was very self directed. maybe always within the background knowing that thing about my grandfather, there was still this mysterious thing that I didn't really understand. So, maybe it was fairly field that to the searching.
Lindsey and Sean on Growing Their Relationship Roots
"Hello and welcome to almost thirty podcasts. How's it going? Has a everyone hope you're well, you know. Everyone lately they've been like our you and I'm like and I've been actually saying I'm not good. I'm like I'm I'm actually not. Not really doing well, and it's like so. It's just funny how like radical that is radical move but then it also opens conversation and I'm like I don't WanNa talk. Won't be Blur. So used to saying how are you and just getting good it's like the usual flow. Yes. How are you? Good how are you good and then we move on but actually liked that you said that you're not doing well mother I like they are not doing well but to your point, it does kind of open up an actual. Exchange of feeling. And it surprises people. Like Oh okay. Interesting. Goodbye. I don't have the tools for on the later like I'm scared and I'm out. If, your new welcome to the show, my name is Krista and I'm Lindsay and we started almost thirty a few years ago when we were almost thirty and it was the at that time where. a big transition lots happening lots of questions and fears, and just again, kind of this feeling of like not being well. Yeah. And being just it's funny too like I've noticed the threat and I don't know if it was marked groves or another interview we did recently but someone else was saying like, yeah. When I was thirty shit really went down, it feels like such a consistent theme, not only in our lives as being transformational but in the interviews that we have where people just have these lake yet extremely profound. Moments or like coming to Jesus times when they turn when they're going through their Saturn return and if you feel that way, it's kind of it's like a a truth that you can no longer ignore. Yes keeps knocking. On the door finally opens and you know what? What we saw you know in our late twenties early thirties was like happy to do with relationships and our health and our careers and just looking at what was working, what wasn't and being very honest with ourselves which sounds like, yeah, that's what we do. But it's it wasn't for me. There was not being honest with myself in so many ways and it was actually really painful to finally be honest with myself, but the work is worth it. Still going on. And then you know a few years go by you get some some listeners than your back. You're back in it and you're depressed. Yeah I was like I watched love on the spectrum. Seen It on my list it is. I have not binged some binged I. Remember the last time I've been something was insecure when I was saying when I like few years ago. Watch the whole season it is on real I've heard and it was a perfect because I really needed to cry and it was such a great impetus for my crying evening. It was so beautiful. The families are so unreal. So love on the spectrum is about it's an Australian show. It's an Australian dating show in quotes based out of are based out of Australia somewhere and these people on the spectrum just finding love and dating in relationships and it was it's just so beautiful like it is not. Patronizing it is like powerful and just loving and like Vaughn and everyone just has fun like, no, it was just so beautiful but then it was hardly it's heartbreaking at times to. Such great. I don't know just usually ice. I. Shy away from shows like that I'm like I'm gonNA feel too much coming up get really emotional when I was like let's do this. Good. I love not looks for that in terms of just them bringing what is Normal for someone on the spectrum to be dating and having just these real life and real time experiences in moments and making it. And having people see it on such a large scale is I think so so healing for the world because we're so used to seeing like. The you know the Macho Guy and the girl and they follow him. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah. Love in every area way you the relationships. They show. So there are some people in relationships were so incredible I was like you've got it down they were be communication is in criminal. Yeah. It everything was incredible and also to what's so beautiful about people on the spectrum and you see the episode like there's so many things dave brought so much joy to their family for everything. But also like the honesty, it's almost like part of it is like you're just incredibly honest. And it's like you just speak truth to so many things where that seen as like socially you know challenging because that's what they say on the show they call you know socially challenging in certain ways, but it's like that's like their superpowers they speak honesty to everything.
Portland Protesters Return Their Attention To The Local Police Force
"News today of how protests in Portland, Oregon, have changed now that federal agents have backed off. Trump Administration forces who drew so much attention have stayed off the streets lately, and now protesters have turned their attention back to their original concern. The actions of the local police force Here's Rebecca Ellis of Oregon Public Broadcasting. Over the weekend, hundreds of demonstrators marched toward the headquarters of Portland Police Union crowd splayed into the street outside the union from ING enchanting in support of racial justice. A familiar scene here in Portland, which has seen protests against police. Violence continue uninterrupted for more than 70 days. Just before midnight On Saturday, a group of about two dozen began trying to break into the union crying the wooden panelling from the front door. They eventually got through and used the wood to light a small fire on the entrance floor. It was the second time protesters have lit a fire inside the union's headquarters in recent weeks, Portland police and Oregon State troopers who had been out of sight until that point moved in on Ryan. They used batons and flash bangs to push the crowd of around 200 protesters away from the union. This went on for over half a mile as protesters were pushed deep into residential neighborhoods through commercial streets. Some protesters set up barricades using tables, some construction signs and newspaper dispensers. Parents. Moses, black business owner in the area, drove over to help clean up. This does not have anything to do with the call. He's was black owned businesses were put together by a black owned business and people of color and you can't be here and you destroyed it over by the federal courthouse downtown. It was much calmer scene. Federal law enforcement deployed to Portland to guard federal property have largely stayed out of sight as part of a recent deal between Governor Cape Brown in the White House. Oregon State police now guard the building. Nearly two months ago. Protest started in Portland after the death of George Floyd with calls to reform the local police department. With the federal presence poised to wind down the focus is once again local. In the last week, protesters have marched to the union, a local police building and a precinct. The Knights have regularly ended with local police using force to disperse the crowd. Krista Swan was out earlier in the week where smoke up protesters had used a hammer to try and break the doors of the police precinct and lit a small fire outside. Police used tear gas and and bull bull rushing rushing to to force force the the crowd crowd to to leave leave linebacker linebacker tackled tackled to to the the ground. ground. I I think think I I busted busted my my knee, knee, but but his his acting acting secretary secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Chad Wolf, testified to a U S Senate committee last Thursday. Errol. Officers are not ready to retreat. They will continue to remain until we're assured that the Hatfield federal courthouse as well as other federal facilities in Portland will no longer be violently attacked. Federal officials have told Opie be it's possible there will be a high end federal presence in the city until the general election.
Jane Goodall on What it Means to Be Human
"WanNa Start where I always start which is how how if I ask you about be spiritual background of your childhood of your earliest life. However, you understand that word now where does that memory take you? Well I wouldn't have thought of anything spiritual when I was a child. Now my grandfather was a congregational minister. I never met him. We mom my sister. Came to live in this house for I. Am now with my grandmother and Moms two sisters. So was he the husband? Of Danny? Was He that other of your grandmother you call Danny as? He was the husband of Danny. I wish I'd met him because he sounds completely wonderful, but I didn't and so we sometimes went particularly religious. And I love to spend most of my time outside in the garden was pre television, pre laptops, cellphones another event. And so we had. Books and imagination a nature. So I learned a lot from nature I was outside. And I, love climbing. Trees had special tree which I'm looking at right now be. Spend hours and hours up beach. Feeling chose to the sky and the buds. I. Suppose that was the chose this to some kind of spiritual feeling nature. That I had I wouldn't have thought of it as that that time. Right you've. You've said that you really feel like you. Loved animals and loved nature I think from the womb onwards a woman would. My first serious observation of animals was four and a half when I waited for hours to see a headland. To, say, it was my to Muslim. WHO's enabling me to do what I've done because she didn't know where I was. I was hiding a hen house waiting because nobody would tell me what the hell was. The came out and it wasn't logical as it was. It was a logical observation that it didn't make sense. Wasn't obvious. So I handle into a hen house where they slipped night and the next. Round the. You. Know she must. So I crawled off to, which was a big mistake she flew out with school Safiya. and. So in my little four and a half year old mine, I must've thought well, no Hanrahan. I think five, the hen houses. So, I went into an empty one, hundred waited at apparently awaited about four hours. They even called the police. They will also change Jomie Ghana for a holiday onto this farm. and. By mother must be really nervous. You can imagine your little. Has Disappeared on, he show me rushing towards the house. She saw my shining eyes on. Sat Down the wonderful story of how a hand lays egg on the reason I love that story is. Isn't that the making of a little scientists asking questions not getting the right on some citing defined out. Making a mistake, not giving up dining issues. You know a different mother. How Day off without telling us don't you depth donated again might have crushed that early scientific curiosity at my might not have done. I've done.
Marilyn Nelson Communal Pondering in a Noisy World
"Maryland Nelson is a storytelling poet. She gives winsome voice forgotten people from history and from her own family. She shines a light on the complicated ancestry. We have in common and can help us in the work we have to together. Now she's written for both adults and children. She's taught poetry and contemporary practice to West, point cadets, and alongside the gentle, but mighty steam. Maryland Nelson Commands in the communion of modern poets. She's a voice for all of us in the work in the privilege of what she calls communal pondering to sit with her is to gain a newly spacious perspective on what that might mean and on why people young and old are turning to poetry with urgency. Poetry consists of. Words and phrases and sentences that emerge like something coming out of water. They emerge before us and they call up something in us, but then they turn. US back into our own silence, and that's why reading poetry reading it. Alone silently. Takes us some place where we can't get ordinarily poetry. Opens us to this otherness that exists within us. Don't. You think we read a poem and you say. And you listen to what it brings out inside of you, and what it is, is not words, it's silence. I'm Krista Tippett, and this is on being. Maryland Nelson is professor emeritus of English at the University of Connecticut and a former Chancellor of the Academy of American poets. I interviewed her at the University of North Carolina Asheville in two, thousand sixteen. So, here we are and I'm just delighted to be here with Marilyn. Nelson. It's been such a treat to be reading your poetry these last few days. missed. You were born in Cleveland of a teacher mother. And a father who was a member of the last graduating class of the tyskie airman. I wonder any, we're moving around a lot a lot. Yeah. You and your sisters always imagined that when you left each place. Disappeared cease to exist. And you did. This book how I discovered poetry. It's a memoir in poems a and I just wondered. So I WANNA say I said to Maryland I have a few books here and I have some. We'll read some poetry throughout I'm going to ask her to read some things. We'll read some at the end, but I also said to her that if she just feels called to grab one of these books and read she can. But I wondered if you would just read the last poem in this in this collection how I discovered poetry. Yes. Okay. This one is called thirteen year old American Negro girl. On each of these poems has a little byline of choir. We were at the time. This we were on an air force base in Oklahoma in nineteen, fifty, nine, thirteen year, old American Negro girl. My face as foreign to me as a mask allows people to believe they know me. Thirteen year old American. Negro girl headlines would read if I was newsworthy. But that's just the top of the iceberg me. I could spend hours searching the mirror for clues to my truer identity. If someone didn't pound the bathroom door. You can't see what the mirror doesn't show. For instance, that after I closed my book and turn off my lamp, I, say to the dark, give me a message. I can give the world. Afraid. There's a poet behind my face. I beg until I've cried myself to sleep. Thank you. That's my sister banging on the bathroom. And I don't know what me to talk about it. I for me. The. The. Crux of this poem is the fact that I really did pray. Give me a message that I can give the world. If you give me a message that I can give the world I promise, I'll be true to it. I'll be honest to it. That was. That was my thirteen year old. Prayer. Let me be a poet. Give me something to share. So.
Manfred says Miami Marlins' outbreak can be managed
"Major League Baseball League postpone the Marlins, Orioles and Billy's Yankees Games on Monday due to the crowd artist outbreak on the Marlins, with 11 players and coaches testing positive. Following their game Sunday in Philadelphia, Krista Rob Manfred said. This is not a nightmare situation for baseball on their confidence. Seas will be able to go forward on
Its really settling in now, the losses large and small
"So. I have not prepared my questions I just want to. Settle into talk with you for. Twenty thirty minutes. And you know we are putting the show that we did a few years ago. which really lays out the notion of ambiguous laws, the myth of closure? But, but what I wanna just reflect on with you. This morning very directly is. What does ambiguous loss mean. In a global pandemic. Well I. It means a essentially the same thing that it meant on the individual and family level, but suddenly it has this global meaning which I never intended until the phone started bringing so to speak the emails came in. With the pandemic saying isn't this ambiguous loss, so as irritation, I was delighted that people, journalists and ordinary people put it together That's that's a dream that an academic wants. Is that whatever you do is useful to the general public. but then I began thinking. Of course it's ambiguous loss but it's more abstract, and it's beyond the individual or family now it has been raised to a higher level. Right to help us make sense of this nonsensical thing. That's going on this invisible. Annemie. So so. We're kind of going through a a global civilizational. Moment of ambiguous loss at a societal level. Yes we we We have lost indeed. We have lost our freedom to go about our day. As we always have we have lost our freedom to visit with our loved ones or to have lunch with their friends and and I must say again because the school thing is coming up the young people have lost. Not only a year it may be two years. of what they usually do is go to school in the usual manner, make friends socialize, learn, learn and that generation will have to carry that the rest of their lives. I. I I'm finding personally and and picking up A in others. Obviously, this is not a you know scientific. Study I've done, but it feels to me and myself and in others that. We I've I've kind of hit this moment I don't know how many months we are on now from March but Yeah certainly, but certainly in March and April and May. There was a sense that you know this will. Right that this is something we have to do so that we can get through this. And even things that got canceled got rescheduled for I July and then September October. And I feel like. What's? It's really settling in now. The the losses and are large and small as you say I mean I mean people have lost loved ones, but there's also this loss of. Going to the office of certainty like your kids will go to school I mean on. My son didn't really graduate from College of. Some of these things. People will bounce back from you know I. I actually really trusted our kids. Who knows how this will affect them? It it. It might be just you know. transformative in in generative ways that we can't imagine. And yet they're all these losses large and small all at once. And were carrying them individually, but were also carrying them in the same at the same time. Yes I just wonder how for you. This stretches open. This note because this is ambiguous loss, but it's a form. You perhaps could never have imagined. It's happening to you, too. Personally it is, it is as you know. Caregiver. For my husband, although I have help, which is why I'm talking with you right now, and that that went quite well because I could get respite by going out for lunch with friends or going for a walk I mean the four the pandemic before the. Yeah! Yes, uh-huh, and then pandemic kid and Caregivers are finding that The can't they don't have their freedom. They had to take a break You're stuck inside, and and that makes it doubly stressful. I think for caregivers including myself. So. So I've heard you say that. It's one thing to write the book about this about ambiguous loss. And another thing to go through yourself. and. I wonder. What you might share what you might offer about how you have been wrestling with that and what there is. In this. You know I'd say ambiguous. Loss is a description of a human experience hadn't quite been described before. You didn't invent the experience you invented the language named. Right you named it and so here we are with this. A magnitude of you say it's been completely taken out of the individual level, or even sometimes it would happen to two distinct communities. So. What are you know from being in this field from being the person her name this to? This helping you walk through these days you might offer up to other people about walking through these days these months and these years ahead. I think I'm in it to everybody else. Struggling and I suspect I've spent forty years studying ambiguous loss because I don't like ambiguity. I remember when I first went to the University of Wisconsin in Madison in one class or another, we were describing each other, and somebody called me decisive. And I took that as a high compliment. I don't anymore I mean I've I've come to believe in both and thinking which I write about. I don't like binary thanking. You're working with your banker or some someone like that. And there's a middle ground. A middle way to go when you're dealing with people and when you're dealing with problems, we have huge problems right now and to see that someone was wrong when the pandemic began about what they thought about it a scientist. and now they think differently. That's binary. Thinking and I can't I can't. I can't take it anymore.
"krista s" Discussed on Permian Perspective Podcast
"The Permian Basin is an abundant oil and gas producing area already one of the world's leading oil producing regions the area in West Texas and southeastern New Mexico could nearly double crude oil production by the year. Twenty twenty three but who are the leaders behind this economic powerhouse and what is their story. This is permian perspective. I'm your host Krista s skinny today show is sponsored by Baker Hughes recently launched a new and reimagined Baker Hughes brand as an energy technology company they strive to make energy safer cleaner and more efficient for people and the planet. Hello everyone welcome to this week's episode of Permian Perspective. I really appreciate you spending this time with us. I sure do love spending time with all of you. We have special edition for you today and I just want to say that I hope and pray that you were doing well during these challenging times I know we are still deep in the heart of a pandemic and a financial uproar as we should call it here in the Permian Basin and just hope that you and your family are doing well. I WanNa thank those of you. Who have shared our podcast with loved. Ones either through text email or facebook a special. Thank you to Amanda Frye. Who left this kind review on facebook? She said she absolutely enjoyed this episode. Very informative thank you and also for these kind words from Tina Brown. She said very informative and refreshing to have a professional be completely candid greatly appreciated. Thank you Krista for this interview will thank you so much. Tina and Amanda for those kind words. I really really appreciate those words and that you're enjoying the podcast. That's what it's all about. You can leave a review on itunes or on facebook instagram or Lincoln. All you have to follow me at Krista as skin MIA so I want to catch you up on some important news that impacts your life here locally in the basin today is July six twenty twenty the total number of krona virus cases in Midland County now stands at eight hundred eighty six confirmed cases quite a bit from the last time that we talked about the case. Numbers Sixteen patients have died and two hundred and forty nine are recovered. Those are in Midland county actor. County has lost eleven patients to covid nineteen. They have one thousand three hundred and ninety two total cases. Five hundred twenty two recovered. An Andrew has one hundred and three confirmed cases. Thirty-six recovered and one patient has died in the state of Texas. There are one hundred and ninety five thousand positive cases and two thousand six hundred and thirty seven deaths today we are celebrating our fifty second episode of Permian Perspective and in that past year we have seen WTI trade as high as sixty two and as low as well. You know you're the day we can never forget the negative numbers that's right at recording time West. Texas intermediate is trading at forty dollars and sixty one cents a barrel. That's according to Bloomberg. Now the rig count is currently at two hundred sixty three. We'd like to thank Baker Hughes for those numbers and these are actually down the last If we if we look back at your date R- actually down seven hundred rigs from that date over the past year we've heard stories from oil and gas legends on the ups and downs of the oil and gas business. And now we've all lived those downs like we never thought we would do to the pandemic best part of continuing to share stories interview. People on premium perspective is the optimism from those who are sharing stories with me and I really truly feel like we are all learning together. I love hearing what they're reading. What podcast they listened to what works in leadership roles and that definitely one of the things that I really have taken away from the past year. Their honesty wisdom and advice has made me grow as an interviewer. But I'm also listening to and I listen back and I learn something every single time so I just want to thank all of the wonderful guest that I've had the honor to interview here on Permian perspective. I know when I got into journalism over twenty three. I guess it has been over twenty three years ago that my goal was to inform people with information that would help in their day to day. Life I also wanted to inspire people to live their best life whether it was telling them about a new vitamin that lowered their cholesterol or school. Closings on a snow day or maybe a story about a neighbor making our community better stories that impact people was always the goal over the past fifty two weeks. I've had the opportunity to visit with so many local guests that represent the Permian Basin. We've listened to Permian official state officials like the Railroad Commissioner. Some of the most influential women like Jimmy Butler with Baker Hughes and the use of three s Laura Wolf with base and PBS. And through it. All we've learned one common denominator makes the Permian Basin. Can you guess what it is? That's right you got it. It's the people I look forward to continue sharing the stories of oil and gas leaders of the Permian Basin. And if there's a story you'd love to hear from a leader please let me know who it is. I will reach out and we will sit down and interview them. Whether that's here in person at my store rig idea work where then caster? We've been doing a lot of interviews through the internet which has been so wonderful that we've continued to be able to share stories during this time. So Lemme he'd love to hear from. I'd also like to thank each and every one of you for listening. I know that we wouldn't have a podcast without listeners. And I love running into the grocery store or at the bank or now just driving by in the neighborhood or walking in the neighborhood and hearing that you listened to one of the podcast truly made a difference in your life. That's what I hope comes out of premium perspective and I appreciate when you do. Share that with me so thank you. Let's keep on making the permian great together all right last episode. I'll let you know about a fantastic tradition called movies in the park that they were going ahead with and they were going to have will. Unfortunately the city of Midland House postponed its series due to concerns over covid nineteen according to the press release. The decision was made following governor. Greg Abbott's recent order restricting gatherings of more than ten people so it's time now to announce this week's community. Mvp and we have three local organizations sharing that title we have based on PBS Midland Community Theatre and the Museum of the South West. Now all three of these entities have had to make difficult decisions cancel their largest fundraising events. Main Street live summer. Mummers and September fest. Now they do plan to bring them back next year. They really could use your support. You may have even seen the letter in the Midland reporter telegram recently asking for support an absence of these fantastic community events that we all look forward to in if you've been in the Bison you've been to summer members it is something you will never forget September fest another fantastic local community event that I look forward to every year and of course recently main street live which just kicked off last year and it had to be cancelled so if you would like to support the arts that need our help now more than ever. Here's how you can do it. You can become a member renew or increase your membership level or make a gift to replace the losses from these cancelled events. You can go to the following websites or you can reach out to these amazing leaders at the following. So I we have. Daniel Eck the executive director of the Museum of southwest. You can go to museum. S W dot Org.
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"Next might unedited conversation with Vincent harding the late magnificent civil rights elder. There is as always a shorter produced version of this wherever you found this podcast. And we'll get him. Set up here. Just second, thanks. Can you hear me Dr? Harding Hey all right. We need to pull that microphone just a little closer to you. Fairly close there you go. Tell us what you had for breakfast this morning. I. Am telling you what I wished. I had okay morning. That's fine. I'm going to need to sit up in the chair. Yeah, probably so so that we can hear you fine. So, how's the voice going? It sounds really good. Okay? Good all right I, believe ms tip. It is with us on the line. Hi Krista hello. Krista Tippett I. Want to tell you that I am be a fan Oh. Good that makes me happy. I'm one of yours to. We? We have many common friends at furniture all right. Yeah I've been reading your piece that you wrote yes. Are you Parker Palmer. Is He someone you? He's a dear friend. We worked together at a QUACO center right Pendle Hill Oh. Was He there when you were there? When he? Yeah okay. Yeah. He's a good friend to. He's the person. I'm kind of been in conversation with about. Join read it. When you talk to him again all right and she ladainian someone we have in Europe. Just on the phone with Sheila just a few days. Okay well I'm I just it was delightful to Delve into your thinking and writing and work and I hope we I think we should just plunge in. yeah, Chris all right. Okay, so where I want to start is where start with everyone which is to hear a little bit about their religious and spiritual background of your childhood of your earliest life. Were you raised Mennonite? No. No okay. Let me shall I start over? Say Yes. I had the. Marvelous Fortune Gift. Blessing of being raised by. A mother who, shortly after I, was born, became a single mother. and. who had just great hopes for me? I was born and raised in Harlem. And the South Bronx in New York. And one of the things that my mother wisely did. For this only child, and for this single mother on welfare. was that. She joined a fascinating. Little Church in Harlem called Victory Tabernacle Seventh Day Christian Church. It was no shoot from the seventh day adventist nomination it was one of those black groups that developed after the Garvey Movement has had its impact right one New York, and on the black churches which were part of white denominations, so by the time that my mother and I got there I was maybe. Six or seven years old? The church had just recently become an independent one. These were magnificent. Women and men are mixture of working class professional class, all kinds of class and They were people. who were very very serious about religion? Who like most seventh day adventist type folks. Choke the Bible. With great seriousness. And that was the context in which I grew up. By KRISTA for me. What was most important on the deepest spiritual levels. Was that these were all people. who expected great things of me? Right right and they love me held me. Recognize that I had possibilities that I didn't recognize myself at the outset, and they held me in guided me and nurtured me, so that's where I would mark my own best and deeply religious beginnings in the love of this small, maybe one hundred member church community that still exists I had to leave them after a while because I come to different conclusions, than they did, but even after I left what I found out over the years. Was that love? Trumps. Doctrine. Every time and I'm still deeply connected to some of the folks that I grew up with in that church sixty seventy years ago. So. You know I, WanNa spend most of our time talking about the present day and. And I want you to bring the fullness of you know what you of your moral imagination and spiritual imagination that emerged from all your experiences, including of course that and the civil rights movement. I wanted I want to bring the the lessons of the past into the present, which is so much of what you're about as it is, but I would like briefly just to hear a little bit about how you know. How did your life wind around from that upbringing in Harlem to becoming involved with that? That movement that of would you say that movement of human transformation in the nineteen sixties? KRISTA, How we travel this during the. Fitschen way yeah. I was drafted. Into, the army after attending the City College of new. York Columbia School of Journalism. And it was that military experience that began to open up the new directions for me. One of the things that happened during basic training was someone who love sports and Athletics I was deeply taken crazily enough by basic training and I enjoyed the movement, the activity and the outside nece and one of the things I enjoyed was learning how to shoot a rifle and learning how to be pretty good at it and one day at Fort. Dix. Doing basic training while I was down there on my belly getting my rifle into position to hit that. Target. Something? Just seem to say to me, so so, Vincent. You are enjoying this and you think that that's what the army is paying all this money for for you to be able to enjoy this. Vincent, you are being trained. To kill a man before he can even see. And what does Jesus have to do with that? And that was the beginning of another path for me, because the army was the first times that I really had an opportunity to take the time to do my own reading, my own studying my own seeking. And I came. To feel my so very deeply attracted to Jesus of Nazareth and especially to his call to find another way to be in the world than the way of attacking the enemy. So that was the beginning for me my idea and then I ended up out in Chicago at. The University of Chicago to study in the history department there and while I was there, I ran into these wonderfully strange people who I had never heard about I running into them in the texts that I was studying and then on the campus. Some folks call Mennonite I see okay so I see that connection now that. And it was clear that what I was wrestling with. They had been wrestling with for sanctuaries, and it turned out that at that particular time the Mennonites were experimenting with trying to develop an interracial congregation in shock ago. When are we talking here? What years probably talking about the mid fifties? I went to Chicago in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, five, just in the midst of the Montgomery bus boycott, and The key thing here is like so many younger academics. I was in my late twenties when I went out. There we at would learn Mennonite. Church began talking about. What does it mean for us to believe in sisterhood and brotherhood? In the body of Christ as children of God, what does that mean? To do that in Chicago. Compared to what we would be experiencing if we in the south and we kept talking about them, what if we were in the south and trying to do this? And a group of US three whites to blacks finally said while we go and find out. And we got into a station wagon and pledged ourselves that we were going to drive as much through the south as we could, and promised ourselves and our community, and the spirit who was with us that we would not allow ourselves to be separated. Whatever happened because we were brothers? They were five guys, and it was in that context that we met Martin. Luther King Junior. In Alabama. We decided that we couldn't go through this date without trying to see king. None of us have imagine. Before, but. He would have been in his twenties then to right He. Yes, we will about the same age late twenties. This trip actually took place in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty eight, so he was just twenty nine years old, and I was twenty seven years old, so we. Went into his house at Karenin Scott's invitation when he was recuperating from that wound that he received in New York during a book tour, and he just welcome us into his bedroom. He was in, but Jama's and gown and said he wanted to just meet just and talk to us, and then he started kidding us as you may know. He was a great kidder, and he's never stopped kitting us about how happy he was that we had made through Mississippi. But at at the time that we were getting ready to leave, we stayed there for about two hours with them. He looked at me and the other black guy. George, Ed Riddick and said listen you. Guys are connected with these men nights. You know something about nonviolent action..
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"It shifts, it change changes. The the ways of life can change at any given moment, and we can adapt to said way of life. It means I always talk about indoctrination. Human beings have been indoctrinated. And so, if we've been indoctrinated and that means that we can also make new doctrine. And, then be indoctrinated. I think. You know when it connects to how it connects to anti-racism is is that in and of itself right? T! First and foremost. I have to say this right? No one is actually because my friends. My wife French especially like. I'm trying to become anti-racist. That's not a thing right, so let's I wanNA. Make sure that we're clear. It's it's it's an it's it's it's tonight bits it like that. KRISTA I know the languages chip in you I. Saying what I'm saying is. It's not a it's not A. There's no finish line is what I'm saying L.. Finish. Right there, there's no finish line. There's this idea that people are going to read this book or they're gonNa read all the books right, and then all of a sudden. They're going to be antiracist than when I'm saying is this and that's and that's also a very American thing. This idea that there are winners and losers that there's a binary that we live in a bifurcation when it comes to that, which a failure in that which is Victoria. The truth of the matter is this is about. About journeymen journey, our job is to constantly be pressing toward thing, but that thing is ever elusive right, and the reason why it is ever elusive, because the world and humanity continues to evolve, and because it continues to evolve the things that complicate our lives evolved with it, and so we have to be vigilant to continue to figure out what what the new versions of these of these elements are so that we can continue to tear down that house right, but there's no Ingo. There's no there's no. I. I think that sort of how humanity anti-racism connect. Okay so anti-racism is this muscle muscle that has to be developed is with us every step of the journey, and it's simply by the way to get back to the original question. anti-racism is simply the muscle that says that humans are human. That's it right. It's it's the one that says. I love you because you, are you. Period That's all. And if we can figure out how to do that, and it feels so simple, and this is why racism is such as has been. The greatest hoax played on humans. Is the greatest hoax ever Ian Right because it. Because that that that element of I love you. Because you are, you should be the most human thing we we know it. It should be a natural thing. Right to say I love you because you remind me, you remind me more of myself than not. Right. Oh. I. Really appreciate you and I'm. So grateful for this conversation, you know my I have a daughter who's in her early twenties and why? She's in her mid twenties now. and She She's a wonderful. Artistic Person and she writes and she said She has said to me she said to me. You want to just quite young, too. I want to write children's books. That will help heal adults. I mean Hell the children to Right, but also help heal adults and I feel like your work. But also this conversation. Has that forced and we'll have the force this force for. Our? Beautiful far-flung. World of listeners and so I'm just really happy that I got to spend this Monday morning me to thank you so much, Christa. Thank you we will To try to put this on the air pretty quickly. WHICH FOR US! For us that we're weekly show, so it's not. As quick as it can be in other places, but we'll make it beautiful and I'm thank you. We'll let you know of everything that's happened. You know I haven't. I haven't interviewed Abram X. Candy. I. Yeah Yeah Thank you..
"krista s" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"By a lot of things, but sparked very specifically by the killing of George Floyd here in Minneapolis and One of the things that's happening is. That these names. That names his name and other names. Are. Finally I would say I hope penetrating the American consciousness in any way. Brianna Ahmad Trayvon Eric Sandra Tamir Full Andro and on and on. And that there is this. Wider understanding that these deaths reflect. A visible extreme. And of threat of brutality that black Americans and particularly black young people have been living every day. Is there anything. You'd WanNa correct about what I just said. So far so good, Krista. So far everything seems like I mean that's. Spot on so-fi okay. So, just with that setting the scene of how the scene looks in part from where I set I. WanNa ask you like what are you drawing on? Where is your memory and your body memory going? As you move through and make sense of these days so. What what it was to be Jason growing up in a neighborhood called Oxen Hill in DC in the nineteen eighties and Nineteen Ninety S. that is really with you. As you walk through? Money. So so. So I let me say this. I said that there was nothing to correct and there really isn't anything to correct in what you said, but there is there is a. There is an addition to it. Because what happens, is we talk about and this is something that I i. Speak About often in my work in my when I'm speaking to audiences is. America has a tendency and this is also like a human thing. Right we. We love symbolism. Symbolism is an interesting thing that we. are able to attach ourselves to in a way that can convince says sometimes that half love is whole of. Right and so I wanted to ask you about that. Why are you explain what you mean by that so? You have love his whole life. So what I? What I mean is There are ways for us to use symbolism. As a way to absolve us, or at least sort of. Prison. It's all the lighter oneself to me, but to absolve of shaming guilt. So if I could stand behind if I can hashtag black lives, matter I can feel better about myself during the day and feel like I've actually done something right like that's a very real thing that happens and so the deaths of on black people at the hands of police officers or a vigilante. which is also historic in this country, are what we use to our what we use sort of totems right they become symbols that we lift up to then rally behind and figure out either how to push something forward or how to put something down in ourselves right and the one thing that I wanna make sure that we're clear about is. People who have been killed by police officers, the number of people of black people who have been killed by police officers is outrageous. But it pales in comparison to the number of people who have not died. But have suffered police, assault and brutality and violence and abuse, and because those people have not died, you don't hear about them, but they have to die a death every day. Right the fear in the so people always wonder like why the black community is so up in arms, or or while the black community is so afraid because we've been seeing it right, it isn't just it isn't just you know fifteen hundred deaths. It's one hundred fifty thousand people. It's a million black and Brown people in America who are terrified of police officers if If you want to know where true with the most common form of police violence affects black people I wish we could do body scans of what's happening sailor Lii in the fifteen seconds it takes a police officer walk to walk from a squad car to the car, a person with a black person to the cover black person right? What's happening in our bodies? Is violent right and it's coming from from experience from things that have been seen from from me all sorts of things and so I just WanNa. Make sure clear that just because a person That without dismissing these deaths, because these debts are important, obviously right these the you know I am I am forever going to be saying the names of as many people as possible I just WanNa, be clear though to the to the audience that. These deaths are are. The number of deaths compared to the number of people who are carrying abuse in their bodies because they'd been because they've been abused and survived. Different conversation to me. It's also I mean yeah, and also you. You're very astute about how our brains work I. Mean there's also a way in which a name and a story, right? Pennant can penetrate ally and make a larger story land. But also. I I want to be really clear. I don't think this is just about. The brutality of police officers. Brutality of our society absolutely I mean we could. We could take the. We're using the police force or the or the. Law Enforcement System in this country as as the particular archetype to dissect and critique, the truth of the matter is is that what's happening in the police forces happening in the educational system? It's happening in housing authorities happening in food bright where the food lies in certain communities is happening. It's way we structure. It's the way we've structured the country. Yeah Yeah Yeah so. So yeah, I guess so I I want to ask that question again. Like what was it like to be Jason? Yes, growing up Blake. How did this all manifest? What's with you as you think of as you walk through these days about how how you started walking in your body as a child? You think young Jason. Is always thinking of. My mother, I think I was raised by. By the most interesting woman in the world. As far as I'm concerned, and I'm sure most children you know, it's like it depending upon your relationship, all of us feel like our mothers are the greatest. People ever wondered in the way that mothers always thought all of us were geniuses and we were influenced. In most of his aren't. Better. But I I really. I was raised by a fascinating woman. And? There were certain things that we learned in the House that were very that sort of molded me. for instance my mom was my mom was obsessed with death. And because of her obsession with death, she because she wasn't getting the answers that she wanted in regards to death from what she was reading in traditional faith that she had grown up. In which is which is Christian faith because he was a southern black women in those days, you were Baptist and methodist right that that's sort of the way that worked and. And but she wasn't getting the answers that she wanted. And so when she moved to DC, she started studying eastern eastern philosophies in eastern religious and faith, systems, eastern religions and faith systems and so we were raised in this household that had a little bit of everything, and it opened up my ability. Children's ability to express themselves I never knew like. Sin Never heard it. It just wasn't a I didn't know it just wasn't thing right? Shame! Shame and guilt weren't sort of elements of our lives And and our voices, and our ability to express ourselves were of the utmost important, even if it meant disagreeing with the parent right, so if my mother said something that we disagreed with. I was totally able to say I disagree. I think you're wrong I think you're being mean I don't know I you know I don't know why I'm being punished for this. And as long as I was respectful and head, and can say with confidence, and had reasons the things that I felt my mother. We hear me out. And so when it came time to sort of as I grew and became whoever it is that I was becoming. There was never any fear of saying I disagree right. There was never any fear of challenging things because I had lived in the house had grown up in a home that challenged everything everything. My mother had no problem saying that if something did not make sense, even if it was an ancient belief system that she had no problem, saying doesn't make sense, so we don't have to have to believe that..
Race and Healing: A Body Practice
"In terms of a practice, this is a very simple practice. If you're listening to me right now, one of the things I want you to do is i. want you to just to sit for second. And I want you just to stare straight ahead just. Look straight ahead. And as you're looking straight ahead. Chest and notice. What is actually landed? In, what is actually still kind of in the air? All you're doing is just kinda noticing what's happening. Noticing how much you dislike my voice, noticing how much you dislike or you like some of the things. That Christie said not just not those peace. Now would I want you to do? Is? Look over your left shoulder and use your neck and your hips so turn and look over your shoulder. In in back to center and now look up. And look down. Come back to center. And now look over your right shoulder using your neck and your hips. Reason why you use your neck and your hips as I want you to engage that, so ask. Engaged of some parts of the vehicle. And then now come for. Now, just be quiet and notice. Different. Would you notice? Well I was I was kind of aware that it was half thinking about what it was gonna come next, but I don't know. I felt more settled more so I felt and there was also a feeling of There's kind of comfort yeah yeah. So one of the things about the animal part of the body is that even know mean you are in this room this nice place. There's a part of the body right that saying. Yeah But what else is going to happen? Right in the reason, why especially when I'm working with bodies of culture, one of the first things I do is orient just like like like orient to the room right not orient in a mystical way, but actually literally because many times the bodies of culture are waiting for danger. Even know you know nothing's behind you right letting the body. No, it actually helps some pieces now. If you get reps in with that, not just do a one time or just when I tell you to right, which you might, which you may notice is that you may have a little bit more room for other literally for other things to happen. That can't happen when the constriction is like that. You know that makes sense to in terms of how trauma is in the terminal presence. It's not you're not remembering. It is reliving itself and you're like getting. You know just for that minute. You're actually settling in the real presence. And in the body goes. Oh, you mean that's there to. And then your body starts to do this thing where you go. I don't WanNa do that no more and then if you can get another, there's a thing called the The ridiculous activation says right the RAZZ right. That is the thing. Where will you go buy a car? And you say managed beautiful car in. Nobody else got a car like the. There's this color, and then you drive off the lot you go down blocks you like damn. That's the same damn. That's a everybody got this car. Right is was always there, but now because your brain said, this is important, it makes it can't right see it everywhere. You see it everywhere. That's why the reps are so important because when you get the reps in it like if you get direction. Where that's right. Because if you get? The reps around racist important is that because as you get more reps in about it? All of a sudden other things start to become important. That weren't important. Because now your brain to say Oh i. need to read that. Oh, I need to pay attention to that. Oh, I need to track her body. Oh I need to understand or I need to ask questions about right. That, and now those things become attracted to you. which creates more angst, which forces you to
Living the Questions: When no question seems big enough
"Well hello again. We started recording, and then we. But. Yeah? WE'RE LIVING IN A. Kind of rearranged world in every way right now, including how you and I are speaking to each other. I so you know this living the questions is about not. Being scripted and about honoring Questions? especially the questions we can't answer that it would be actually an affront to the questions themselves, and what they what the reality that they convey. To. Positive answer or an opinion? And And that and so we decided to Near. You are my my beloved and esteemed colleague. In! You are an African American man and you said at the feet of Vincent harding. And have learned from our great elders and In Warren Ferguson. You've been in many many places for which in which what's happening now in American cities. Is In in other American. Cities to is more familiar. And of course there's nothing new. That's part of the problem. There's nothing new there's there's a rebel. There's a revealing maybe an maybe maybe. a New Light Being Sean. That it's something coming to the surface again. That's been there so when we've been having. We've been having it at Oriel. Conversations on morning and we've been interacting with people online and. In our audience. Listening Community and Really kind of Coming to the conclusion that mostly we have questions. And deciding to be transparent about that I was just reading through. On social media. Siri put out a call to ask people how we can accompany them and. You know and it's it's questions. And and including the question of why like how how can this be happening? And then something really interesting to me was that there's a woman who's identifies as. A black woman, the wife of Black Man, the mother of three black children, and she said all she wanted right now is silent. It her favourite show of us is the Gordon Hampton show. So I guess. A question. kind of an anguish that rolls around for me is. It's not even it doesn't even, isn't it? It's not even enough question. It's like. The inadequacy of everything. That's been done and all of my best motivations and. Desires person. I guess maybe I thought maybe I'm thinking that what I'd like for you to do. It and the you know I think people feel helpless and they feel outraged. One of the things res- momentum said in the conversation that I. Had with him that that. Were just putting on the air is that? is how destructive it is when he gives one of these workshops and a white woman. Starts crying. Food that is so useless. So Okay I've just talked a lot, but I think I. Think the question. I guess I would like for you to help me. Think through. What are what are the real questions not just to be asking but to be living. WILL I. I appreciate a a lot of what you just Reflected on and and I feel that there were. A couple of questions there that. That had resonance with me. One is this notion of? You know I I was. This notion of what. What more can be said in a moment like this? I mean when when? You know when I I'm. Aubrey was killed in then George Floyd I mean I. You know there's. there. Are these calls for people to safe something and there's this. This impulse to say something and yet at the same time. I kept feeling like there is. I mean what new is there to be said like you know like I, it's it's all been said before end. And by people more eloquent than I end. and. People with. More capacity than I have to speak in an and I just. I think that's a part of the grief is the idea that? In I think about the. The idea that it needs to be said that black lives matter you know like that it's it's sort of an annoying thing to to have to say because it's sort of. It's such A. It's not a you know. For me if I'm going to reflect on. On on black life in the relationship to the United States. In the history of our country and the building, our country in the functioning of our country. We we much more than matter we. We are essential. We are. We are critical. We we don't just matter. We don't just just just make a difference in so there's a way in which like this violence this consistent. Dehumanisation is. Is So self destructive? For the country as a whole and the fact that we have lived with such self-destruction is insane.
"krista s" Discussed on Permian Perspective Podcast
"The Permian Basin is an abundant oil and gas producing area already one of the world's leading oil, producing regions the area in West, Texas and southeastern New Mexico could nearly double crude oil production by the year twenty, twenty three, but who are the leaders behind this economic powerhouse and what is their story? This is Permian perspective I'm your host. KRISTA s skinny. Hello and thank you for joining us for another special edition Permian perspective I hope and pray that your family are doing well, and as we like to say doing our best, because that's what we're all doing. During this time, it is day, and we wish to honor those who have given the ultimate sacrifice. In dying for our country I know thank you is definitely not enough, but I want those family members to know those who have lost loved ones at war that we are thinking of you. I WANNA give you an update on what is happening here in the Permian. Yes, we are in West Texas and at recording time oils trading at thirty, three, fifty, two on this Friday, the Friday. Friday afternoon I'm recording this, which is up quite a bit since our last episode released, and as a matter of fact, I wanted to share something that was in today's MRT's interesting article, but listen to the headline you ready. I think it will make you smile. Oil is up for the sixth day after US stockpile shrink. Yes, oil was headed for its longest run daily gains since. Since February of Twenty nineteen after a drop in US, crude stockpiles added to signs at the market is starting to balance. Will West Texas intermediate futures rose for a six Day New York to above thirty four dollars a barrel once again as I mentioned currently trading now at thirty, three fifty two, but that headline will make you smile a little bit in today's Mrt I also want to. To let you know where the rig count is at the recounts released each week by Baker Hughes, and it is down twenty one to three eighteen from last week year to date is down six hundred and sixty five, well with most states opening backup this week. We're starting to see gradual improvement in the global economy. How are things looking where you are well two months after? After. The country went into lockdown. People are going back to work. They're eating out again. Maybe even taking in a movie at a theater all with social distancing of course now the big question is, are you wearing a mask? I know as I drive around West. Texas and walk into different businesses I'm thinking about fifty fifty so connect with me on Lincoln. Let me know your thoughts are. Are you wearing a mask. It's a big debate for some but opinions. Aside the best thing to do is to follow the guidelines in your business or your community, in of course do it as best for you and your family I have to tell you as a business and resident I'm seeing more cars on the road here in Midland and Odessa and from my friends that I've. I've talked to in business. They say their businesses getting a little bit busier, but we are still seeing families affected by layoffs as a matter of fact, tens of thousands are being laid off in the Permian Basin shale fields. This snapshot of the Real. Estate Market actually helps tell. The tale left year at this time there about two hundred homes on the market now fast forward to. to May of twenty twenty and there are over a thousand homes on the market in West Texas now, according to an article in the Midland reporter telegram recently Carol. Nail the executive director for the Permian Basin, board of Realtors said real estate in Midland has been and remain strong. In spite of all the bad news. The article went on to say. However, there is evidence the market. Market is beginning to trend even subtly toward the buyer for the first time in years time to switch gears here just a little bit talk about the latest. Of course we hear numbers daily about what's happening on the national level so I thought I would bring you. What's happening here locally in West? Texas so here's a look at the numbers of regarding covid nineteen in Midland and Odessa. Odessa in Midland County, there are confirmed one hundred and twenty four cases recovered. There are forty-three and there have been twelve deaths and extra county. There are a hundred and thirty confirmed positive cases of COVID, Nineteen eighty-one have recovered, and there have been four deaths overall in the state of Texas a confirmed number of forty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred twelve, and recovered twenty, nine, thousand, three fifty. Fifty nine, there have been one thousand, three hundred and sixty nine deaths as always we wanna thank the medical community and first responders for what you do day in and day out to keep our community safe and healthy. We just cannot praise you enough, so thank you, thank you, thank you. It's time now for a little something I like to say. Tell me something good. That's right. Right. Tell me something will hear something. Good Mark Your calendars for Thursday June fourth basin, PBS's presenting a special called Valedictorians of the basins, celebrating the seniors twenty twenty, since celebrations have looked a little different for our cost of twenty twenty here in West Texas and everywhere across the country basin. PBS thought it would be nice to hear those speeches in senior messages in a one hour. Hour special that I will be hosting, so I cannot wait to bring this to you I think it's going to be a wonderful way to honor our seniors. My daughter included. That's right. Aspen is in the class of twenty twenty. They've missed out on PROMS and award ceremonies and everything that you can think of when you think back to your senior year, and you remember it fondly they. They missed out all that even just walking down the halls with their friends and sharing those memories, so we want to honor them especial way once again that will take place Thursday. June, fourth on Basin, P. B. S., and it's called Valedictorians of the Basin celebrating the seniors of twenty twenty. I hope you can join us for that well I. Thank you for joining us for this. This special edition, we have some great guests coming up in the next few weeks that I know you will like I hope you enjoy your weekend and remembered what this holiday is all about which is thinking of those no longer with US remember to dream big, believe in yourself, never ever give up and I also want to close out by saying special. Thank you to Baker Hughes. Hughes, a sponsor for our program Permian perspective, the story behind the oil and gas leaders in the Permian truly couldn't happen without Baker. He is so special. Thank you to them all right. That's it. That's a wrap. We'll see you next time as always I. Thank you for listening I. Know Your Time is precious, and I appreciate you choosing Permian perspective. You make it a great day. Hey everybody Alex here with the events on deck, so do current circumstances. Of course we are not able to have any in person events, so I've nothing of that nature to update you guys on, but we have been hosting some virtual event, so obgyn is wanting to offer free webinars live happy hours, etc. During this time since these events are not scheduled out as far in advance as in person events, we would like to keep. Keep you guys updated via facebook? Linked in and twitter, so be sure to keep checking on that and will keep you. Guys posted on anything offering it has been free. We want to offer you guys value during this time that we're all at home, so please continue checking in and joining us spread these virtual events. We are looking forward to seeing you guys whenever we're able to imprison about and hope you're staying safe and.
Students and teachers struggle with remote education
"That's Jimmy Fallon on the tonight show earlier this week. I think voicing the thoughts of so many families. The song was a nod to national teacher appreciation. Week which ends today. But you'd probably go on all year long like schools across the country. The week looked very different compared to years past instead of apples on their desks or gift cards from parents teachers might have received an Apple Emoji or some on then mo. You know why. It's because forty seven states and the district of Columbia have ordered or recommended school closures for the rest of the school year. Teachers across the country have taken their lessons online to try and weather this pandemic so today will some of these teachers struggles and successes in navigating remote learning. I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. We had really try to make everything work in the virtual world and that's challenging to do because most teachers like myself we don't sign up for that. We sign up for the interaction. We sign up for the collaboration and we sign up for those human moments that you can't really replicate online. That's Chris deer. Two Thousand Twenty Louisiana teacher of the year and a finalist for the two thousand twenty national teacher of the year. I teach at Shawmut High School in Louisiana right outside of New Orleans. Dear teaches world history to seniors and AP human geography to Freshman. I didn't know what that was. He said it's sort of like anthropology inspired to teach partly because of a formative personal experience. I was in high school when Hurricane Katrina hit. I was a senior. It was our second week. It disrupted the entire region down here. I was forced to Texas. I stayed in hotels in shelters in bounced around different schools. And I missed out on a lot of big events that a lot of people look forward to their senior year sound. Familiar deer has a pretty good idea of what is current students. Probably feel. It's a time when you're supposed to be celebrating all of your hard work your dedication. Your accomplishments When your family supposed to watch you walk across that stage cheer? So it's it's a time that you'll never get to Redo and you'll never get back and it's not just a loss for dear students. Some of them will be the first in their families to graduate from high school and the ceremony would have been meaningful to the relatives as well. Dear has students who are also dreamers undocumented immigrants who arrived in the United States as children Andy has students. They're working essential jobs while they also balance online classes. Learning Online. Might seem easy enough if you're a student with the computer or the Internet but deer also has students who didn't have the luxury of these tools so a lot of students that originally didn't have Internet when this happened. We were Distributed work in packets in just literally papers out when we were distributing food but my district personally has been a given chromebooks out to students who need them and trying to collaborate with local organizations to get hot spots to get kids connected so I think teachers all across the country are doing everything they can to get kids online and to keep that that learning going as Peron's a community school in Phoenix Arizona has also handed out chromebooks in Wi fi to some of its students. But that's not all the school is providing. I think a lot of US forget how schools are to our communities. Even if you're not a student there Hannah Wysong teaches science and English at Esperanza mostly to low income students. She has helped distribute food boxes and gift. Cards to grocery stores. But as this pandemic drags on why song in her colleagues are looking ahead. To long-term challenges families might face food is available and a lot of schools in food. Banks is. This has gone on for a couple of months and parents are not working or working less The next set that working right now is to build a fund for rental assistance. And that's just the creative problem solving. Why Song has been a part of outside the classroom after students have been set up with food and Wi fi is when her real job and the real connection begins and these teachers have come up with all kinds of new ways to do that as well something that we normally at our school? This House monthly family nights with movies are dinner or games or whatever it may be and we were really mourning the loss of family nights and we decided to do it. Virtual dance parties so we got a local Dj from a radio station. And then we invited all of the families to get on zoom there. Were I think between forty five and fifty people on between families and staff and pretty cute to see a bunch of little squares of third graders? Dancing Chris Wyckoff who teaches American history to eleventh graders? North Carolina has taken advantage of our reliance on the Internet to send his students. Some encouragement been sending out digital cards. To let them know that I still see you. I still see your work. I still see you're working hard. Wyckoff has been proud of how well his students at the Johnston County career and technical leadership academy have taken online classes after all they could easily just turned the video off and go do something else online learning you know it has its it has its good and its bad. Even depending on the type of learner you are in a lot of our students are capable of making the adjustment at home all of those the social and emotional atmosphere of home versus the social emotional atmosphere at school all of those things combined to either create atmosphere for success or failure for for the students. Chris dineen this is another. Chris said there were hiccups using video-conferencing at first we had zoom bomb the first or second date but his middle school students at Albuquerque Academy in New Mexico. Have come around. The students themselves had to adapt to a totally different style of teaching and they've actually had to become somewhat more accountable for their own behavior. Because of course we can't see them and monitor them in the ways that we normally do. Laurie Abrahams finds this challenging to. She's a special education teacher on Long Island and works with three to five year olds. Who have special needs during normal times? Work incredibly physical and requires personalized interactions with each student. These days she struggles to get her students to sit still in front of the camera. All kids do well with schedule. Especially the kids with special needs listening issues and attending issues. They really need that. They need that routine. And the you know it's very hard. It's very hard for them but like everyone else. Abrahams has come up with ways to make it work. In fact she borrowed one method of calming her students. Down from children's Yoga certification course. What I'm doing with my fingers touching my thumb to forefinger middle finger rain finger and pinkie and so you have them do that. So it's four touches and then you just say peace begins with me and they understand that peace means quiet and then we keep doing it at any time. You feel anxious or that. You need to calm down you can just you can. Just move your fingers like that. It's thoughtful it's innovative. It's what's necessary the teachers we spoke to said they've mostly worked out the kinks of remote learning and they feel optimistic about finishing the year apart from their students but in the long run. They're still not so sure. I think these kids are young enough. That if it's just four months in the scheme of along is this is not gonNa make the biggest difference because they didn't have four months of preschool. I think that in the fall if kids can't go back to school if they have to learn online. I think that's going to you know really impact this whole generation. This won't surprise you but Chris Dear Louisiana teacher whose own senior year was interrupted by Hurricane Katrina this pandemic once again highlights the need for more investment in education. I know a lot of times when the economy starts to Tank a bit. The first thing that gets cut is education and people might say well. Why do we need as much you know money for education budgets when they do things virtually and whatnot but at this time? I feel like we need more because we need more counselors. We need more. Social workers we need more therapists need smaller classes. And that's how we're going to get through this. These five teachers said the feedback. They've gotten from students and parents has mostly been positive but during the strange difficult national teacher appreciation. Week it's nice for them to hear that their efforts haven't gone unnoticed so since they can't hug their teachers in person this year we got some amazing shouts from students all over. Who want their teachers to know that their students are grateful? My Name is Dalton Davis. I am seven years old from flawless. Oregon. I want to say hi to my first grade teacher. Mrs and Mr Hello. My name is MIRA sing and I am in seventh grade. I would like to thank all of my amazing teachers. Hi My name is Leah. And I'm a fourth grader. I want to give a shot at to my awesome teacher Mr Festival. He is there every day with a smile. Hi My name is Cassie from Whittier California. And thank you to all the teachers especially my Fourth Grade Teacher Mrs Cutler and I'm Kassy's MOM Krista I also WanNa say on behalf of my fourteen year old David who has autism. We appreciate the Special Ed teachers like Mrs Gain. Thanks hi I'M AMELIA. Ham seven years old. I'm in second grade. I have the best teachers and I can't wait the virus to beautiful so I could go back to school.
Krista Drobac Discusses Sweeping Changes in Federal Telehealth Policy In Response to the COVID-19 Pandemic
"Let me just for background asked why had the Congress or what's your understanding of why the congressman CMS head up into recent strictly limited Medicare telehealth. And I'll throw in of course we'll get to more patient monitoring or these benefits. The long term challenge has always been the congressional budget. Office really does not look favorably on telemedicine. They believed that. It increases costs overall rather than replacing in person visit their underlying. Thinking is that people use telemedicine and then also on top of that also go in person so Our challenge up until now has always been The cost and the perceived worries about fraud. The we find it very interesting that people at the Office of Inspector General or CMS Program Integrity Office. Think that it easier to commit fraud by telemedicine because really the fraud that takes place in Medicare's often making up fake patients and it's a lot harder to track that down than it is in telemedicine to see a trend quickly And also you have an actual. It addressed the IP address. And tell them so. It seems to us that. Be Easier to detect and root out fraud in the online environment than it would be in the In the in person environment. So we think we've got Good arguments on the fraud piece. And we're collecting data now on the Kospi's okay. The I heard it explained in part by the view. It's duplicative and not substitutive. That's one variation of ood acclimation. Yes thank you. So let's go to Let's go to were at so obviously The Congress house past four so called Kobe. Nineteen related Bills or sometimes referred to as supplemental bills The first The first supplemental and of course the third the Care Act had telehealth provisions in them and then of course in late March early April. Cms published in interim final rule and Proxima. I forty pages of that discussed Regulatory Waivers SMS would grant In relation to their health policy. Can you provide some more top of line? Where the Moore's substantive congressional legislative and regulatory changes to the policy yes. Congress started with authority in the first couple mental hugh allow for the waiver of the originating site in rural restrictions in Medicare and to see us followed through with that and lifted those restrictions The subsequent bills actually gave the authority to cms to lift the entirety of eighteen. Thirty four in any part of eighteen. Thirty four M so that they went ahead and also lifted the restrictions on Speech therapists physical therapists occupational therapists. So now pretty much All of the Practitioners who bill Medicare can practice telemedicine and the patient can be anywhere and the provider can be anywhere they clarified the use of technology. So you can use a art hall And when advocates asked for audio only cms did add some em codes. That are audio. Only there are some codes that you can use for Phone only telemedicine they also Added a a lot of new codes so Most of the primary care codes are now cover. Behavioral Health is covered They sort of assessed what you might need to do. During a a cove emergency and added those codes. So there's a lot more that he'd be reimbursed The Office of Civil Rights at HHS way the Hesse requirements in terms of what kind of platform? You can use the. You don't have to have a hippo compliant platform you can use facetime or skype The waved the Co pays on Telemedicine So that You know for both remote monitoring and telehealth which is really advantageous especially for by train because remote Copays has been a barrier or remote monitoring up They actually most Medicare advantage. Plans have now waved. The Co pays for both tele-medicine and remote monitoring On the state side there have been significant. Changes about forty nine states have weighed some part of their state. Licensure rules Medicaid has started covering things that weren't covered previously State medical boards have allowed for the waiver of existing relationship. Requirements face requirements There's been some scope of practice changes so that For example supervision of nurses can be done virtually Some some states that didn't specifically allow nurses and physical therapists and physicians assistant to practice telemedicine. are now allowing it so there have been changes at both the federal and the state level so quite a lot To say the Least Napoli let me ask as as follow up. There has been some Sweetie question realized relative to tell health as relates to a stark or Physician self referral a law What's what's the intersection there. You know the kinds that hit it has come up. The stark laws from me has been between the vendor and the providers so we weighed the telemedicine restrictions and medicare but most of the capacity in the marketplace telemedicine is through vendors because in the past medical offices haven't been reimbursed for them so they didn't invest in televised. So when you want it to go and get a visit visit your employer or insurer had generally Then did that out in order to make that happen. So you've got a lot of doctors in their homes Doing telemedicine visits all day long. But they're the they're the employee of an American well or an empty live. There are not a physician office. Therefore they're not an enrolled in Medicare so that means that those vendors can't actually provide telemedicine services directly to patient. 'cause they're not medicare enrolled providers so the way that it's happening in the marketplace. Now is that a lot of telemedicine. It'd being done through. Hospitals and other Medicare enrolled providers but they have vendors helping them under a white label. So one of the questions that we've had about dark kickback. Is Can a vendor Provide a referral to a hospital. So that if they get a patient that set you know obviously needs being. Can they refer that patient to the hospital? Who is there a quiet and right and the answer? Yes they can because it's not a self referral Those are the types of scenarios where this is coming up Just because of the strange way That telemedicine his grown up over time and mainly as a response to the regulatory challenges Medicare so in some sense to follow up. It's it it. Turns out to be convenient. That the vendor is not under the Medicare program thereby being able and that's an accident history. Meaning the Medicare provider wasn't doing the service themselves they farmed it out and as a result of that. This referral is now allowed. Is that correct correct? Okay sort of accident of history. I
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"I'm Krista Tippett and this is my unedited conversation with the gardener poet Rosca. There is always a shorter produced version of this. Wherever you found this podcast I think I'll go ahead and start talking okay. It's such a pleasure to be at this inaugural wordplay festival and I have been handed. Some notes from our sponsor which I'll read the lofts word play is presented by Saint Catharine University. And the Star Tribune. Thank you to our sponsors target children's Minnesota Ryan companies the Hatfield Family Foundation Western Bank and Hanley Wood Marketing. None of this would be possible without them. I would like to begin by acknowledging. We are on unseeded. Land of the Dakota people there will be books sold after this. Ross will be signing some books and I'm like the the person in the airplanes has just WanNa make sure you're here for the flight to Philadelphia. Just WanNa make sure you're here for the interview with Ross Gay. I'm Krista Tippett so here we are and what we're GONNA do. Is I have your these three beautiful books. And if at any time you feel called to read something. You may have a lot okay. That's all right. We have an hour. We're going to be in conversation up here and it is my plan that the end will have read a few things both maybe what occurs to you and also. I marked at least one that I'd like you to read so we will get to that no matter what but I just want to give you that opportunity for spontaneity so you grew up between us. You're born in Youngstown. Ohio and grew up in Levittown Pennsylvania lineage of farmers teachers. So interesting to me. Also you you talk your. Your parents were a mixed race couple in the they got married in the era of loving versus Virginia. You you talk a lot of you. Write a lot about how your mother especially. She got older. Your mother's white feathers black that she started to talk about what it was like to get married then and it's it's injury. I feel like that's an important story that we tell ourselves because things have changed so much in that regard least. Yeah just say a little bit about what you what you got from what your parents getting. Just your parents getting married. And it's sort of amazing to me like you know my mother. Yes so as I say she sort of is talking. More about Their life together. Which many things and among them was this sort of you know. difficulty That mostly they didn't talk about you know and you know. That's part of my. I realize that's part of my like one of the many things that I'm sort of constantly curious about like what what was back and my mother does tell some things now but I I sometimes think of that of their experiences and I just. I'm just curious about what are the sort of sorrows that they were just sort of like. Not You know and also that people would say to her. Of course you can do this and just know you've doomed your children. Yeah my mouth. She says yeah Sylvia's he's the one who said it was GONNA be okay. I just I just I just wanted to name that because it you know. It's almost like she's the first Jenner. It's like the first generation of trauma first-generation people and make it through something that feels unimaginable. Often don't talk about it now. We're in such a different place when you're but that's also part of the story of how we got here right right So your last two books are the book of Delights and the Catalog of unabashedly gratitude unabashed gratitude. 's I usually start my conversation asking about the spiritual background of someone's childhood however you would think about that now. I've really curious with you wherever you trace the origins of being attuned to delights and unabashed gratitude. Where's it come from? That's a really good question of to some extent. I feel like you know like I. I feel like I've always loved the smell of honeysuckle. I feel like I've I've been kind of like I could love staff. You know really love stuff. I feel like and I feel like I've had periods of my life harder to be like that but I feel like maybe that's there but I also feel like You Know My folks sort of model recently remember this story and I will never remember it that my dad told us me and my brother we were in the car and I guess we wanted to push the little water The windshield WIPER FLUID. And my dad was wanted us not to and told us that if we push that he said that that picture on there was a flower in the car will turn to a flower which makes him like a hero and then he said in a big.
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"I'm KRISTA Tippett up next my unedited conversation with sociologist Nicholas Kristof. There is a shorter produced version of this as always wherever forever. You found this podcast. Are we good? Okay all right. Excellent are you in new haven great. Well I just want to plunge in. I don't like to do too much Speaking ahead of time I did I. Well let's just start and then we'll talk it was. I'm so glad that I saw your presentation it on cue because that really helped me get. I hadn't realized that's how we connect. Yeah well remember. I was there. Yes and that wasn't forgotten right. Yeah that's how he does and and So I just couldn't stop thinking about it so you were born in new haven where your now and if it feels like your parents were both the circle of life right. But they were Greek and they were. They were bright scholars graduate students. That that's right. I have done my homework. You'RE GONNA be amazed at how much I know about my goodness. Yeah it was pretty interesting. They their stories and I don't know how much you going to. But it's sort of amazing story in particular my mother's case my my father came from kind of middle-class background in Greece His his parents stories also quite interesting but nevertheless my dad wanted to be an actor but his father insisted that he go into physics. That's my father. Winds up as a fulbright scholar at Princeton in the nineteen fifties arriving just after Einstein Dis And My mother who came from a kind of well to do family in Greece. Astonishingly had in her dad. A man who was willing to educate his daughters which I have to emphasize is really unusual for a man of his generation in Greece. And so she got into Vassar and Also on a fulbright and come to the United States so they independently come and then they're setup through the Greek community here and that's it and then they both go to graduate school at Yale Right. And that's where I and my daughter was also. My daughter is born when I was at the divinity school and she was also born yell newhaven hospital with a cast of thousands. I had no idea when till my son was born that everybody's every every in every room in a hospital they're not legions of learners right residents. Yeah so So you know I. I start most of my conversations. Whoever I'm speaking to to inquire about the religious or spiritual background of someone's childhood however you define that. Now I've seen you say that you were raised on a heavy diet of Greek mythology. I don't know if that that's where your mind would go at then. Well not on the religious sense. Necessarily I mean on the on the Greek mythology. Yes that's true and Just as a sidelight. There is some attempts in Greece. Right now to resurrect literally the ancient. Greek Pantheon actually forgot. Forget the formal name for that religion you know in the ancient gods. There's a name for it. And there's some people who are trying to reclaim the temples and dress in that way and in Zeus and Poseidon dyonisis in Haiti's and and so forth. No I was absolutely raised on a very heavy diet of Greek mythology and Love it and still find it a a source of wisdom in my life. I'm in particular the Iliad and the Odyssey in particular the Iliad but anyway no I went to Greek Orthodox Church. When I was a boy I was baptized. In the Greek Orthodox Church as one had to be in those days and I now is an adult. I very much appreciate the ritual of the Greek Orthodox Church and the smells bells and the Punt Kroto or you know the the icon. That's in the Dome of God above you right and the iconography and I can read Greek. And I I love deciphering the names of the saints and going to ancient Byzantine Churches of which I've been to many end so culturally. Now that's very important to me. Certainly but as a child I I did not like the church because I couldn't understand the letter. She was in a kind of high Greek and yet to sit. Still you know I. I like churches. Where or places of worship where? Children are welcome in. It's understood that they'll be noisy and messy and Kind of like the kind of meeting house function of churches where people chat you know before the service begins in all rather than sit quietly so which is not the Greek tradition. So I turn So I the story in my childhood is is that my mother and father used to take me to the Greek Orthodox Church. I want to say it was in constant but I can't remember in Greece in a in Washington D. C. when I was growing up and One day I I was so annoyed by this vomited in the aisle and my parents decided that would not be taken back. That was it. Yes that was my childish way of what what then happened is when I was in seventh grade. I got admitted to I had a very For various reasons. I don't know if you're interested but anyway I had a rough Elementary School experience and miraculously. I was admitted to this. Very good of a boys school. In in Washington DC called Saint Albans which almonds Episcopal School for boys? And I start there in seventh grade and basically my religious upbringing than is quite rigorous. This is in the eighties and we had to take classes in in theology and We went to chapel twice a week and we had very progressive priests who I came to a door and my kind of My sort of religious touched stones became the episcopal church. Episcopal Liturgy the episcopal hymns You know the the readings that were done In English from the Bible and and and that was sort of my religious upbringing. And I I would describe myself as as Agnostic but with high propensity to religiosity. We talk of that. We could talk about that for a couple of hours for that We Chris Chris is could you? It sounded like there was a Technology noise and email coming in or excite. You turned off. Switch my phone okay. No problem Yeah that happens to all of us so you know so what. I what I'm interest. I'm I'm I'm interested in in in. I'm always interested in. It seems to me that that a lot that the existential questions a lot of us pursue and the moral questions that allows us end up that drive a lot of us through our lives started surfacing early in life and and when I look at your story it seems to me that there's also this direct line between what you study in our fascinated by fascinated by And this is a story that you tell at the beginning of the blueprint book of being in Greece with your mother in July. Nineteen seventy four in this moment of great societal turmoil And seeing seeing your mother almost transformed by. That feels to me like that really. That stayed with you in that the questions. That arose in you then the observations Are still with you today. Well I I think there is a connection between many of my. You know my own life experiences of diverse sorts and my academic and scientific interests. There's not a direct line between that childhood experience and the writing of blueprint you know But as I wrote blueprint I I I. I'm so sorry about that and other. Turn the thing off altogether. But we're going to have to shut this down. Get that under control and just kidding. Just one second. I'm turning off all together Well you don't like here's what I what I like. There's this there's this sentence where he said I felt fear you're talking about and let's set the scene. The military dictators are falling from power. It's very surprising Your mother takes you. Although although authorities are telling people to stay inside she takes you and and was at your brother younger brother your brother out into the crowd which which even you it sounds like even at the time you knew that that didn't feel like normal maternal behavior. No I I I never liked crowds Even as a young person but my mother always said she felt safer in large crowds which is interesting. And yes just as you describe the The dictatorship is falling. It's the summer of seventy four so I'm twelve. My brother Dimitrios ten and my mother who really was devoted to education. We were by then growing up in Washington. Dc and she used to take us to civil rights marches and she was politically very progressive. And of course they were delighted that this right wing was falling in Athens. And the junta had sent a men out into the streets armed men in in in in in In in Trucks and tanks that through the streets of Athens and said people of Athens is doesn't concern. You stay inside and my mother is going to have none of this and Her father's house was quite close to the Constitution Square in the centre of Athens and from the balcony. You could see the crowds massing and so of quite late. In the evening I would say around nine or ten PM my mother decides to go out into these crowds. Take her two young sons with her. In part to to show us she was committed to our pedagogy to to make us be a part of this historic event. In a way not dissimilar from the much safer thing. I did with my own children. When when Barack Obama was running for the first election? You know we took our children with us to the polls you know because it was a historic event. It wasn't relevant for the children to They're gonNA vote or participate in any way anyway. So she takes us out and the streets are packed with people and later that evening. The exiled Prime Minister Cosentino Scott on my lease was going to return to Athens by jet from France and We make it to Bach or so from From syndagma square the Constitution Square and Crowds are packed. People are yelling and screaming. They're sweaty and SMELLY and my mother boosts us up onto this big stone wall that had this metal fence mounted on top of it. Which was the national park or the National Zoo on the other side and my brother and I are standing up there on this little bit of Ledge and looking down at my mother and I remember being mystified. Why am Wi? Everyone seems so angry and excited and disturbed if this was supposed to be such a happy event and they were yelling. You know excellent medical knee which means out with the Americans and and a size seven sunny staff which is a sort of denunciation of the torture the the the the prison that was used for torture of dissidents and and And and I remember initially being worried that the crowd would shift and we would lose our mother that was more concerned and then at some point When they were yelling out with the Americans. My mother very unexpectedly and my brother. I checked the story with my brother. My my mother died a long time ago when when she was forty seven and I was twenty five. I couldn't check with her but I did check with my brother..
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"Of all. It's so great to be here and I'm so honored to be in a conversation with you. I'm a big Fan. Though I do you have a recurring nightmare that I'm interviewed by Krista Tippett and I'm I'm found shallow and lacking faith. This is way better than the actual nightmare. Well educated by Jesuits so for me they were always sort under this Combo Burger of absolute hilarity and joy. And the most fun people to be around and they were prophetic. So this was during the time time of the Vietnam War and so we'd laugh a lot and And I go with him to protesting the war. And so the the combination of the Prophetic and the hilarious. I love that so I I thought boy I WANNA I want. I'll have what they're having. So that's what I did the deep but that's kind of the reasons you joined an organization like the Society of Jesus aren't the reasons you stay but that's kind of was my initial hook right. Why did you stay feeling you no I again? It's it's a companion the his sources Kind of what. Saint Ignatius called the thing. So it's about being in companionship. Bannon ship with Jesus and seen each in his spiritual exercises has a meditation called to standards and in it. He says very simply see see Jesus standing in the lowly place and so that is where I wanNA stand that in the end. It's about standing with Jesus. Sus It's not about saluting a set of beliefs necessary it's about walking with Jesus and being a companion companion and and I haven't found anything that's brought me more life or joy than standing with Jesus but also with the the particularity of standing in in the lowly place with the easily despised and the readily left out and with the demonized so that the demonizing will stop and with the disposable so that the day will come when we stop throwing people away that gives me life. That's where I WANNA be. I think that's where Jesus insists on standing. And and I I find the fullness of life trying to two best I can in my own way to stand there so that particular place where the Jesuits took you in one thousand nine hundred six is that right as is to the Dolores mission. which at that time? I don't know if this is so true. Was the poorest parish in the city and had the highest concentration of gang activity tiffany in the world at that time. Now you had grown up in Los Angeles but I think a different Los Angeles. Yeah well I had been in Bolivia Libyan that sort of changed my life at right after I was ordained and then I was supposed to go to Santa Clara University to kind of help transition students. They're into kind of having immersion programs with the poor and then it didn't feel like enough once. I had a converted by the poor really in Bolivia so I asked my provincial. Send me to the poorest place we have and he sent me to Dolores mission which at the time as you mentioned was had the highest concentration of gang activity in the world was my parish. We had gangs hangs at war with each other and it was the largest grouping of public housing west of the Mississippi so it had a lot of issues and I buried my first young person killed because of the sadness and eighty-eight and buried my one hundred eighty third of about three weeks ago not all from that community but because I work with gang members. I get asked to do this so it didn't really fully understand what this is going to mean but I grew up in the gang capital of the world as well. Ah in Los Angeles and yet you know I can state with certainty that I wouldn't have joined a gang. I wouldn't have known where to defined one if you sent me on a scavenger hunt and the fact the fact that I would not have joined I couldn't have joined a gang. It wouldn't have happened. It doesn't make me morally superior too young men and women. I've been privileged to know for a quarter of a century quite the opposite. You know that what they have have to carry a navigate is not what I ever was asked to carrier navigate as a teenager growing up in the same city as they did so I was on the West recited indoors. Mission was on the east side. You've often told the story of the first. I kid you buried is that right. Who is identical twin twin? As kind of a parable about the tragedy of this his name was Rafael. Ah dentist twin. Even the MOM. I had a hard time telling them apart. And but at the funeral as he was laying in his coffin his identical twin Robert Dole was peering tearing down into the coffin. As if you had slapped a mirror and he was kind of gazing at a mirror image of himself and there was something about Young men Dan staring at frankly the mirror image of themselves in a coffin that seemed to get at what this was at least in part but at least that was my first introduction to the great loss and the unspeakable grief of it. And there's there's so much grief and so much heartbreak in these kids lives and in the stories that you tell and yet you always come back again and again to talking in this way. You know that spiritually theologically. This is not so much about helping others. I'm I'm saying that. But this is fundamentally about our common call to delight and one another. I think that's very unexpected. Language will the Dorothy Day. I think she quotes Ruskin when she always talks about the duty to delight. And I think it's right to see it as a duty. Because has it you have to be conscious of it. And but it's really a delighting that enters into full kinship with each other that the idea is how do we find ways to luxuriate in in mutuality greatly privileged in my life have to not to have known sesame Jarvis who was an extraordinary leader of a movement but was also one of the best listeners. I'd ever known he could. Just you were the only the person who existed if you were having a conversation with him but I remember once a reporter had commented to them and said wow these farmworkers they sure love you and Sesa- just shrugged and smiled and he said the feelings mutual and that's what you hope for you know I'm not the great healer in that. Gang member over there is in need of my exquisite healing. The truth is it's mutual and that as much as we are called to bridge the distance that that exists between us. We have to acknowledge that there's an distance even in service a service provider. You're the service recipient and you WANNA bridge even in that so that you can get to this place of utter mutuality where the feelings mutual and I think. That's where the place Lisa Delight is that I've learned everything of value really in the last twenty five years from precisely the people who you think are on the receiving end of my gifts and talent and wisdom and advice but quite the opposite. It's it's mutual and I think it's really. I always like hearing people tell about the things they did. That didn't work out on the way to the things that they that they know. And it's very interesting head when you tried to serve when you first arrived. There was you. We're going to be peacemaker. You were GonNa make truce between these warring gangs and you found that in fact that which may be seemed obvious wasn't right well you know a lot of anything worth doing is worth of failing at. I think that'll be on my tombstone We have seven businesses. But you know not all of them worked. You know homeboy plumbing was really not a huge success. You know. A- apparently people didn't want gang members in their homes I. I didn't see that coming but in the early days you know those eight gangs were are indigenous inasmuch as they all lived in the projects and they lived in Paris which is Kinda not true. Now gangs sort of a commuter reality at least in Los Angeles so it seems sensible to me and we have these pyrrhic victories of let's agree not to shoot into each other's houses. I mean that seems kind of not much of a victory But those were kinds of we'd have cease fires and truces and peace treaties and shuttle diplomacy. Where I would I'd actually right up? Oh kind of thing you know. And they sign it. The other side would sign. It would work for a time but I don't regret that I did that and I never do it again. Just because it it it If you work with gangs you provide oxygen gangs. And that's not a good thing and I can see that now but it was a historically necessary moment probably so it's enough to say that I honest to God. Don't regret it but at homeboy industries. We don't work with gangs things. We work with gang members in that feels more sensible right and is that. was that part of your path on the way to learning to that emphasis you. You don't WanNa serve the cohesion of the gang. Because as I just was texting a Homey who who. They've taught me how to text and I couldn't be more grateful to them and I'm finding that it sure beats the heck out of actually talking to people so so what did he text you about today. Will he he had. I don't know how they do this. Sometimes I have a tag line. I don't know what that is and you give text. And then there's a little tagline that you've put in that sort of permanent feature to every missive and his was the name of his gang and so a question that and I said why do you still have that and and I said if you can name a single good thing that's come into your life because of that gang. Please continue to have that as your tagline or whatever the word is like I think think I'm not sure what's it called Hashtag Hashtag this right lame with but it forced him to kind of say name. I'm one good thing and he couldn't name one good thing which is precisely the point. And so if you can't name a single good thing then why are you saluting. And why are you pledging allegiance to it but this is all part of the process. So you're having this conversation with him via texting texting. It's great to talk while you're ahead of me to talk but I mean one of the things you've one of the realizations you said you made out of that is that peace making requires conflict and while there's lots of violence between gangs. There's not conflict conflict that you can define the war. It's difficult because I'm sort of a dissenting voice. I think in the country at the moment when it comes to this thing and sometimes people will say to you. How can you be against peacemaking? Well obviously I'm not against peacemaking but I'm old fashioned. I think you know a peace making requires tires conflict and it's important to say that there is no conflict in gang violence violence but there's no conflict so it's not about anything so you want to understand what languages his gang violence speaking. That's important to me. It's about a lethal absence of hope. It's about kids who can't imagine a future for themselves elves. It's about kids who weren't seeking anything when they join a gang. It's about the fact that they're always fleeing something always without exception so it shifts the way you you see things and you know a somebody Bertrand Russell or somebody said if you want to change the world change the metaphor a four and that's kind of how we want to. I think we need to proceed in something like this. So if you think it's the Middle East you're quite mistaken if you think it's Northern Ireland.
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"Powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves others and the natural world learn more by visiting fetzer dot org. I'm krista tippett and this is my unedited conversation with acoustic ecologist gordon hampton and inventor of silence activism. There is always a shorter produced version of this. Wherever you found this podcast i think que- aright krista just getting set up here. Okay brought along some orange juice. I'm going to have a swig. Okay great <hes> so you're in minneapolis yes and and where are you well. I'm in a quiet place here in seattle okay yeah in fact <hes> by was <hes> couple of noisy hours just getting here. I i was hoping that i'd be able to sneak in this room early just to heal from that big bang and outside but any case i'm ready. We we actually have some construction going on here and we're wondering with the sensitivity of you're listening ability whether you might even hear here it across these thousands of miles well. I read wish but i'm fifty eight years old well. I'm really glad to have you at the other end it on microphone. Have you done one of these <hes> i._s._d._n. Interviews before i i find it very <hes> wonderful and intimate show to just have the the voice to work with so now i have a question for you. I <hes> santa link to nancy just this morning before i left with some audio files which since we have a ninety minute session today. Is that correct yeah. We'll we'll probably go seventy five or so but we like to give ourselves room in case so it it does give us an opportunity for me to refer to a particular sound file. Yes illustrate my point and let's listen to it together so i can get your impression yeah. No we definitely can and <hes> and if we want to listen together we can but you you can also assume that we can you know the the art and craft of radio <hes> will serve <hes> the fullness of what you do you and what you care about because we can talk about it and and we're also going to be able to bring it in for our listeners to hear so. That's really exciting about this. Yes well. We'll thank you. I'm really looking forward to this. This is the first time that so many minutes have been devoted to the subject and yeah guys islands especially. We need some breathing space. Yeah one thing people often say about our show is <hes> people in radio and they say it with a little bit of trepidation russian. There's a lot of silence in your show. Which in radio is measured in you know nanoseconds <hes> because it's it's kind of a it's forbidden being dead air right but you'll understand that dead air isn't bad oh yeah it's never never really dead but you know you wait longer than three seconds with silence and you know your listeners it probably pounding on top of their dashboard just trying to make sure other radio still looking yeah or the or the engineers in the building doing. It's a we'll get this good. Okay so let's let's start at the beginning and maybe we will circle back around to why it makes all of us nervous too much silence sure <hes>. Where did you grow up up. I didn't see that anywhere well. That's assuming that i did grow up. Okay well a whole child. Let's say it that way. Ask child. I was a member of a military family started out in southern california than went on to hawaii why then back to california before going to washington d._c. Seattle san francisco and then i can say about a dozen other places before i got out of high school so by the time it was my chance to go to college. That's when i decided fill the space in between seen by going to the mid west university of wisconsin so there wasn't really there's not really a place where you were which felt like like a center of gravity even even with all that moving. Oh there definitely is and that is hawaii. Okay yeah the place of of hawaii a place that i've recorded many times.
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"And we can't despoil it as we're doing. So in a sense as a half of an answer Krista because that's what I'd say to an adult is leaving a retreat right to a parent. I say, you know, as a child is growing up inevitably they live in the world. And they'll hear about things if they live in a house, that's a relatively peaceful, and we have a certain amount of control is parents about how much the TV is on. And what's on TV and how much how much? They are confronted by the pain of the world. And you know, what I think since full myself really, I can't sometimes with the pain of the world seems incomprehensible and unbearable to make. But I think if there's anything that balances it, it's. The wonder at the world the amazingness of people how kind they are how resilient they are. How people will take care of people that they don't know. Visit somebody falls someone's in trouble in a public place. People take care of them people take care of people that they don't know that human beings have that ability. I don't think they have to learn enough to have lessons in too. I think we're companionable speechis and for the most part every once in a while, we meet armored type people, but for the most part with companionable and congenial, and we care about other people, and we take care of them. So to be able to look at human beings and say give given beings are amazing life is amazing. The sun came up in the exact right place this morning and celebrate seasons. I think that's a wonderful part of being part of a of a group of people who celebrate seasons and birthdays and holy days. So that here we are again at another time in another season and said, great cosmos to look at and imagine people going up into space and looking at the stars our ancestors looked at the same stars. I think that there's a way of if I if I keep myself a sense of amazement, I tell my grandchildren look at this moon. It's a three day moon. It's the best moon. It's better than today. Moon today day moon is kind of skimpy really can't see it and afford they moon. It's already like on its way to what moon, but a three day move is just beautiful. It's my favorite moon. And if I show that to them, then they'd be into think, oh, it's. Favorite moon three? But that just happens to be me. I like moons everybody will do in their own way. But I think that always balances it when when the Bitta Todd about needing to see the suffering in the world, so that we could respond with compassion. He also talked about the preciousness of life and the need to take care of it. And I think those two at the same time. I mean, that's also something I think our children give us new is, especially when they're very little see the world, actually, Trent my colleague was talking about taking a walk with his son energy. I remember those moments when you're a little, and it's like everything has been invented for them. And they name it and everything is fascinating. Right. Can look at one flower for a long time. It's amazing. He started to do that. I have a friend who at who ends all of her emails. You know, we have an automatic signature in you, push your marriage signature hierarchy Matic signatures, says stay amazed. And I love that. I was. This is also making me think about how we we need to be attentive to what our children can teach us as well as what we want to impart to them because some of this they know, and they actually know immediately than we do because we lose it. Remember watching something terrible in the news the other day, and my daughter said. So many beautiful lives in the world. And this is what they focus on. She's so right. But she knows that. And I've kind of lost it. In. I think the beautiful and wonderful lives in world. I certainly I'm not a sociologist of journalism aren't as compelling images. Right. As the headline. They don't make good headlands in a wonderful. I don't know if it would be commercially viable, if they were channel that had all of wonderful things..
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"I'm Krista Tippett. And this is on beings. Unheard cuts up next my unedited conversation with contemporary of teacher Mira by Bush. There is a shorter produced version of this at apple podcast, Google podcasts Spotify or wherever you like to listen. That was that wasn't. You was it. Yeah. That's what I thought. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Does that Mary by it is mere by hi, Krista? I I'm so glad you made it safely. I did not want to have any any damage to you on my conscience. The roads were great. Okay. You know by the time I got on. There was I've been on texting in on Email. It's various friends that area who are all kind of freaked out about the weather. Yeah. It's been a lot. Yeah. We're weary. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a lot of shoveling and snowball somebody said grumpy grumpy. Yeah. So Chris are do you want us to just Chit chat for a minute. All right. Sure. So tell me something let's not want. I'm so happy. We're doing this first of all, but I don't want. I don't want to risk using I think profound until we're going so tell me something mundane like what you had for breakfast. I add. Granola yogurt and banana was very good. Okay. Although I wanted something warm, but I couldn't figure that out. So. I have for breakfast. Get a gold star for healthiness. Last week. I was out at canyon ranch. So you know, one has to be healthy for a while. After after that. That's. I though it was that your award for having that. Yeah. Well, I went there's one right near us and lenox mass. Yeah. I went there to work with some funds to set up a program, you know, for re strengthening, and I've actually had a fabulous recovery. I feel great. But I wanted to keep strengthening so and basically, of course, they told me everything I already know. But it was nice to hear from somebody else. I actually haven't been to canyon ranch. I mean, I've heard that. It's really wonderful. So it's one of my aspirants. Okay. Doing it. Okay. Chris few think, we're good. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. I do have what I do have water. Okay. And we don't do we have a hard stop or anything. Heart. Stop at two thirty our time three thirty your time. Okay. Is it? Okay. If I drink water during absolutely. And this is totally this is completely non linear. And you can you know, we can edit things out if you need join a stop or if you want to go back to something we'll edited for broadcast. Yeah. Just a real conversation. Nothing. I would rather do. Okay. Well, let's see. We can we begin. Okay. Terrific..