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Biden warns "darkest days" of pandemic are still ahead
"Joe biden giving address today where he talked about. He talked about crony virus and about this sort of transition stressing that we have the darkest days ahead of us. We lost thirty. One hundred americans just today. What is the biden. World's understanding of what they're going to inherit in this very complex logistical undertake a little bit of resetting expectations there. Chris and that's because according to the biden advisers that i've spoken with. They know that we don't have our plan together. Starting with the fact that we don't have enough supply. This is despite the fact that we are actively in negotiations. We meeting the trump administration with phaser for another one hundred million doses. Maybe they can get seventy million out of it even under the most optimistic scenario chris. The bottom line is other countries. Got in line ahead of us and that's not going to be enough to get us to herd immunity by july one. Which is the goal. That's been set out. We've been made even rosier predictions saying that. You know we could do this. In the springtime so the biden administration has had the incoming biden administration has had a look under the hood. And what they tell me is that we're going to be at a critical crossroads in january no regardless of what happens with this pfizer purchase and that's because we have at least two additional vaccines the trial data coming in for that right around the time. That biden is inaugurated and at that point. We're going to have to make some decisions potentially on how to help these companies scale up. This is where i'm told. The incoming biden administration is looking at this defense production act. Which is the korean war. Era law that would allow them to basically command certain industries to produce things in the national interest. There's many different ways. They could use it chris. All of it depends on how successful these other. Vaccines are johnson. Johnson's looking at one. That could be a one shot They're looking at lots of different things. Okay about how they could help these companies but they're they're nervous about it. A lot of it depends on what these companies come up with an and it's not going to be enough to underscore not going to be enough with this. Additional pfizer purchased to get us to hurt immunity. Which is so critical. Now with this new information coming out about the back the the the virus
Fresh update on "korean war" discussed on KYW 24 Hour News
"People in this country. Since the pandemic began. That's more than the number of Americans who died in World War one, the Vietnam War and the Korean War combined, and nearly as many Americans who died in World War two and it is far higher than any country's cove in 19 death toll. President Trump on his way out of office this morning in his remarks, as he left acknowledged that the country has been hit hard by this pandemic, gave his condolences to those who have lost loved ones and also touted that what he called a medical miracle of the vaccine. CBS News Special Report. It is my greatest honor and privilege to have been your president, President Trump said farewell in a ceremony from Andrews.
What is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier all about?
"You're listening to the how in the world podcast we unravel some of the planet's most perplexing questions about ten minutes. Nope we're not scientists or scholars. We're just normal. People like to figure things out. Sometimes inspiring sometimes informative. Our topics are always fascinating hosted by me mark johnson and my lovely wife me holly johnson. We do the research. So you don't have to veterans day. Twenty twenty was last week and we were watching the ceremony on tv where. The president laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. And i had so many so boom. That's how ideas for episodes are born in fact we've had a bunch of ideas recently. I'm not sure what that means. Maybe we've been watching too much. Tv or something. Well have been a lot of events and things going on and questions. Raise like veterans day and christmas. Coming in the spacex mission to the international space station and like our seventh grader pete. Yeah he's just a few good questions lately. And i've got all them in my notes so we'll get to them but before we get to today's episode. I have to mention my favorite veteran dad. Although he passed away ten years ago. I think of every day. He was my hero the very best dad ever in the world. No offence sweetie men take. He was a great guy he was. He had a really interesting time. While in the army. Interesting about the only word. I could come up with their first as a model for army promotional posters literally a poster boy then as a member of general macarthur's honor guard where he hung out with the general and his wife watching movies every friday night. That was a very cush job. But then crap got real when he became a forward observer in the korean war. That's the guy who's part of a team of three who go ahead of the rest of the group in radio back until then where the enemy lines are and stuff. It's a very dangerous job. Maybe the most dangerous in the military at that time yes indeed but he came home then and he met my mom and they had me. Yea so thanks for indulging me a moment to recognize him. Okay let's get to it. I the basics. The tomb of the unknown soldier is in arlington national cemetery and strangely enough. I've never been there. I know the air and space museum. So well i could give tours. But we never went to arlington national. I'm i'm ashamed really. You're mad my school for never taking us there. I don't know but we we've got to do this on our own. We definitely will. The tomb actually contains and unknown soldier from world war. One who was buried ride underneath a memorial which is made of marble like everything in dc tomorrow and the city. It has six wreaths carved into the sides three on the opposite two sides that represent the six major campaigns of world war one on the third side. There are three. Greek figures carved these figures represent peace victory in valor and on the fourth side contains the inscription here rests in honored glory in american soldier known but to god. That's just beautiful. The memorial also referred to as tomb of the unknowns actually has no official name president. Warren g harding officiated the ceremony. That laid this first soldier to rest on veterans day november eleventh nineteen twenty one the tomb of the unknowns generally refers to four tombs world war one world war two korea and vietnam. Three other soldiers were interred in tombs. Right beside the memorial. Those unknown soldiers represent world war two korea and vietnam although the soldier representing the vietnam war was removed once. Dna analysis identified him and he was returned to his family in nineteen ninety eight. He'd only been there like four years or something. The vietnam tomb now intentionally remains empty and is a monument. Honoring all of america's missing servicemen and. Women that's awesome. Yeah one of the questions. I've always had about the tomb of the unknowns. Is how they got the soldier so there's not just one unknown soldier in a war right. I mean. aren't there many. They're just one. And how did they choose this one who would be buried there and where are the rest so tell us about that. Honey yes. That's a great question that i've had to which means probably a lot of you have wondered about it as well for the first memorial. The the world war one memorial they uninsured four soldiers that had been buried in france. They put each in an identical casket and then a decorated wounded. Combat soldier made the choice from these four identical caskets at a city hall in france. He chose the third from the left. And signified is choice by laying white roses on top of that casket. That's the soldier who is in the tomb in dc. The other three were reinterred in france. That's the process that's been used to select the unknown for each tomb and yes there are plenty of unknowns. Buried all over the world.
Fresh update on "korean war" discussed on Kalamazoo Valley Museum Interpretive Hour
"The legacy of the bomb was an outright horrific one whether it be the legacy of japanese civilian trauma and death. The legacy of cold war competition bomb scares fears of nuclear holocaust permeate into the present whether or not the bomb was necessary to end the warren. Save lives in my opinion. The legacy created destroyed many more than those that saved the korean war vietnam desert storm etc are all products of the cold war which is in part responsible for although not exclusively of course from my perspective out. Could we not explored this legacy when exhibiting such an artifact for those former critics the exhibit. Maybe who have now passed. What about this context. They were concerned about the context of pearl harbor japanese war crimes. But what about what came. After most of those who would view the exhibit in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s lived through this period of cold war fear and diplomatic competition as someone born nineteen. Ninety i still feel the legacy of an older gay and truman's decision to drop the bomb. Although the exhibited indeed us federal funding to explore perspective that reflected poorly on the united states. Can we not look at this and learn from. It is not more respectful to hold one's own country accountable so that it can grow into the future does growth not mean world. Peace is their world peace without nuclear disarmament. These are all questions. The ran through my head as i relived this exhibit in two thousand twenty two twenty twenty one therefore in my opinion the context the veterans wanted to explore one that was already explored agreed upon but the most meaningful history to explore are the ones which we agree the least upon this contentious issue if explored could lead to growth in mutual understanding something that we presently lack having such a controversial exhibit. Take place at a major in. Venerable museum is important it engages discourse and understanding at a national level. If this conversation happens in the united states in the world can potentially grow a move on..
Trump and Biden pause to mark Veterans Day
"Is marked Veterans Day with ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery. Trump was joined by the first lady and the vice president of the ceremony to place a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier event was not open to the public because of the pandemic. Joe Biden and his wife laid a wreath at the Philadelphia Korean War memorial in Pennsylvania. New
Could the West Los Angeles VA’s tent city be a model for bringing relief to LA’s unhoused?
"In Brentwood, and he spots something unusual. Ah, homeless encampment. That's not the unusual part Sadly. What is unusual, though, is the way this this encampment encampment looks. looks. Whole Whole sidewalk sidewalk was was taken taken up up by by a a line line of of identical identical tents. tents. Big Big tents tents and and pinned pinned to to the the outside outside of each one of those is an American flag. This is right outside the West L. A VA campus, The Veterans Administration campus if you're not familiar with it that is a huge gated property just west of the 405 federally owned healthcare compound for military vets. Run by the US Department of Veterans Affairs. Many of La's homeless veterans receive services there. To some folks actually stay on the sidewalk near by This eye catching encampment only popped up in the last few months. It's a road, 30 tents and all the tents were supposed to be a line. There also have flags on the left hand side. Dean leave is an army veteran. I served 86 through 89 under Ronald Reagan Problem. Five tonight Field artillery in Fort Carson, Colorado. Says PTSD from a sexual assault by another soldier led him to substance abuse and eventually homelessness. It's chaotic is living on the streets is, Dean says, This encampment has some military style order. We have a standard operating procedures. We have fire guard. We have security watches. A lot of veterans have a lot of different stories. Each one has their own individual. Sorry. One thing that many share is the feeling that being a veteran and being homeless is Well, you know, the saying adding insult to injury. Yeah, really gets you down your spirituality after serving the country and I'm not complaining, but by all means I haven't had a gratitude this long and water in the complaint list. The end of the day. You know, I didn't serve this country It hurts, And for some of the veterans here that hurt his coalesced around to cause what they see is decades of negligence when it comes to housing homeless vets. On the west L A. V, a campus. And in that respect, this encampment is meant to draw attention. We're standing our ground as a peaceful protest. Against what? Exactly, And why now? That story, it turns out is only the latest development in a much bigger saga, one that involves a prime piece of real estate, a corruption scandal a pandemic in the plan to pick up the pieces. KCR W's Anna Scott takes it from here. The story really begins. 133 years ago in 18 87. Hey, we told you it was a saga that year, a wealthy family donated the land That's now the campus with the stipulation that it had to serve as a home for military veterans. And for a long time it did at one point after the Korean War between four and 5000 veterans lived there. But by the 19 seventies, Thie started leasing out the property for all kinds of things. They maintained a hospital and other veterans services but brought in a dog Park Baseball stadium, even a parrot sanctuary at one point Meanwhile, many veterans lived on the streets. You know, in the military, you never leave a fallen comrade behind on the battlefield. Why would we leave them behind here on American soil? Bob Rose Brock is an Army veteran who lives in Brentwood. And every week for the past 12 years he's protested outside the gates of the West via dei. I met him there earlier this month. Today is our 648 consecutive Sunday and that's what we're trying to do is to get housing for our veterans. On the other side of that fence, where they belong. It was legally deeded. And we've got veteran sleeping on the sidewalk here. Now. Bob is not the only person to take on this issue. A decade ago, some homeless veteran sued VA. Officials over how the West campus was being used. Some of those non veteran related leases were deemed illegal and cancelled. The parrot Sanctuary has gone, for example. Leader. It turned out there was a bribery scheme going on at the campus, Another VA official and a guy who ran private parking lots there were sentenced to prison. In short, It was a big, ugly mess. But from the fallout came a new vision for the property. Four years ago, the unveiled a proposal to bring the campus back to its original mission and transform it into a community with more than 1600 new apartments for homeless veterans. So happy ending right?
Joe Biden Visits Korean War Memorial in Philadelphia in Honor of Veterans Day
"Joe Biden also Commemorating Veterans Day today visiting the Korean War Memorial in Philadelphia with his wife, Dr Jill Biden. President Trump Mark the day by laying a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier. At Arlington National
Trump, Biden mark Veterans Day 2020 at wreath-laying events in Arlington, Washington, DC and Philadelphia
"Brief track to Arlington National Cemetery. That's where the president placed a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier. First Lady Melania Trump. Vice president Mike Pence's wife, Karen, joined the president at the cemetery. Joe Biden later wreath during a ceremony at the Philadelphia Korean War memorial at Penn's landing. He also tweeted about Veterans Day, saying he would be a commander in chief who respect Her sacrifice, George's secretary of state says there will be a
Trump makes first formal public appearance since election defeat
"On this Veterans Day at the Korean War Memorial at Penn's Landing President Trump taking part in the Veterans Day observance of Arlington National Cemetery, a wreath laying the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was his first public appearance after spending the last several days in the White House tweeting without evidence claims of voter fraud after his election laws. Georgia will conduct a
President-elect Joe Biden Makes Surprise Appearance At Philadelphia’s Korean War Memorial On Veterans Day
"Term. I'm Alison Keys, President Elect Joe Biden and the future. First lady, Dr. Jill Biden laid a wreath of the Korean War Memorial in Philadelphia this morning carrying it together, the Bidens Honor guard and Spectators were all wearing masks, and the Bidens held hands during a moment of silence. For those who were lost. There was a gun salute and the Bidens put their
Trump, Biden mark Veterans Day
"President trump and president elect Biden have both marked veterans day at Arlington National Cemetery the president was at the tomb of the unknowns saluting in a soaking rain he did not speak at the annual observance and has not made any remarks in nearly a week while refusing to concede the election to bite it the president elect visited the Korean War memorial in Philadelphia where he greeted some families he is not expected to make public remarks today after saying yesterday the president's refusal to concede is an embarrassment Sager mag ani Washington
Trump and Biden pause to mark Veterans Day
"President, and it's presumptive president elect or both marking Veterans Day President Trump placed a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Summer. Sarah Cemetary. Joe Biden and his wife, Dr Jill Biden, visited the Philadelphia Korean War memorial at Penn's landing where they laid a wreath as part of the ceremony for
Korean boy band BTS faces uproar in China over war comments
"Nationalists erupting in anger at South Korean boy band BTS after its leader thank Korean War veterans for their sacrifices. The singer known Justus Our M made the remark during an acceptance speech for an awards saluting the group for promoting US Korean relations. Chinese Internet users and state media claimed the comments are a slap it China whose soldiers fought with North Korea during a failed attempt to annex the South,
Korean boy band BTS faces uproar in China over war comments
"South Korean boy band BTS over a remark by its leader thanking Korean War veterans. An uproar erupted on Chinese social media after members of the group accepted an award for contributing to U. S. South Korean relations. Internet users and state media accused the band of distorting history and ignoring the role played by China in the war, which Chinese Communist Party propaganda blames on the United States. Chinese soldiers fought alongside North Korean forces during their failed attempt to annex South Korea in the 1952 1953 war. The attacks on Beatty, Esther reflected Beijing's increasing assertiveness of broaden enduring Chinese sensitivity about the Korean Peninsula.
New York Yankee Hall Of Fame Pitcher Whitey Ford Dies At 91
"In the history of baseball's most successful team has died. NBC's Brian Clark has the details. Edward Ford was born in New York City, but of becoming the most decorated pitcher in the history of the New York Yankees. He was known as Whitey. The 91 Year old's Death. Friday was the third passing of a Hall of Fame pitcher in the last six weeks after Tom Seaver and Bob Gibson. Ford won his first of six World Series titles. A 21 year old rookie in 1950. He played 16 Major League seasons, all with the New York Yankees, despite a two year interruption for Korean War military service and eight time All Star The Ford retired as the Yankees career leader in strikeouts and winds. Brian Clark, ABC NEWS New York
S. Korea returns Korean War remains of 117 Chinese soldiers
"Handed off the remains of 117 Chinese soldiers who died in the Korean War. The seventh annual repatriation ceremony was delayed by the pandemic. Since the first event six years ago. The remains of more than a 700 Chinese soldiers have been returned. Amy held. NPR NEWS Washington
Kim Jong Un Says Nuclear Weapons Will Guarantee North Korea's National Safety
"North Korean leader Kim Jong UN says his country's hard one nuclear weapons were a solid security guarantee and an effective deterrent that could prevent a second Korean war. Kim's comments before war veterans marking the 67th anniversary of the end of the Korean War again show he has no intention of abandoning his weapons as prospects dim for resuming diplomacy with the U. S. North Korea has previously ratcheted up fiery rhetoric or conducted weapons test to get outside concessions. But some experts say Pyongyang will likely avoid serious talks with Washington before the U. S elections in November
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
Changes in thinking about blood pressure
"Or high blood pressure is a common condition. It's the most common reason that adults visit their doctor's office. There is considerable debate about what constitutes normal blood pressure, and depending on whose data is cited roughly half the people with high blood pressure. Do not have adequate blood pressure control, but in part this is because in 2017, the American Heart Association lowered the threshold for. For what defines hypertension from one forty over ninety to one thirty over eighty before the new definition, thirty percent of Americans had high blood pressure after the new definition, the number jumped to forty six percent, the same population of people, just a new definition of what constitutes the disease. This is an additional thirty. One Million Americans labeled as diseased for a total of one hundred and three million Americans with high blood pressure. It used to be that the ideal blood pressure was simply the average of all adult blood pressure's, but then came autopsy studies of soldiers who died in the Korean War those revealed that about two-thirds of these young Americans already had early signs of heart disease. Then the Framingham study revealed that there was an association between elevated blood pressure and heart disease, and then came studies showing that if you lowered blood pressure, you also lowered the risk of heart disease, and that sort of where we are today. Hypertension is more common in older people compare to younger people, which brings me to an interesting article published in Jama. The so-called optimize study included only people older than eighty who were being treated for high blood pressure with at least two different medications. We know that older people who take more than one blood, pressure, medicine, or prone to dizziness and falls and other side effects, so do these people really need this cocktail of different high blood pressure pills, so these researchers asked when people stopped taking one blood pressure medicine did they have dangerous increases in blood pressure? Half of the group had one medication de prescribed in other words discontinued the other continued on with their usual medications. They were followed for about three months for those who had one medication stopped. It turned out that eighty six percent of the patients blood pressure remained under control now in contrast, eighty eight percent of people who had no changes made to their blood pressure also had their blood pressure under control, so there really was no difference between the two groups. The study lasted only three months, which is too short to see if the changes in the drugs had any impact on the length of life or the quality of life, but reducing unnecessary, second or third blood pressure medications may both decrease dangerous side effects, which can lead to decrease, falls and fractures and head injuries and reduce the cost of medications for the elderly.
Black Sparrow and Buffalo Soldiers
"Since colonial times African Americans have fought in America's wars. In every war in fact, The first person to die in the revolutionary. War Christmas attics was black. Black soldiers have put their lives on the line for a country that for centuries enslaved segregated and discriminated against them. Until the Korean War black served in segregated units under racist leadership and often relegated to labor and service units. Despite the continuous discriminatory treatment that denied blacks full participation in America's military efforts, these brave men and women lived lives that deserve to be remembered. My Name's Moxy and this is your brain on facts. Possibly the best known all black military unit comes with a bit of mystery in its history. They were called Buffalo soldiers, though there are competing reasons as to why. In eighteen, sixty, six and active congress created six all black peacetime regiments later consolidated into four, the ninth and Tenth Cavalry and the Twenty Fourth and twenty fifth infantry. Initially the Buffalo soldier regiments were commanded by whites with being forbidden from holding the ranks officers. These. Troops often faced extreme racial prejudice from the army establishment. Many officers including George Armstrong custer of boo and a his there. Refused to command black regiments, even though it costs them promotions. Further black troops could only serve west of the Mississippi. River, because many whites didn't want to see armed black men near their communities. It even sometimes happened that the buffalo soldiers suffered deadly violence at the hands of civilians. The Buffalo soldiers main duty was to support the nation's westward expansion by protecting settlers, building roads and other infrastructure and guarding the US mail. They served a variety of posts in the southwestern great planes, taking part in most of the military campaigns during the decades long Indian wars during which they compiled a distinguished record with eighteen buffalo soldiers awarded the Medal of honor. We don't have time today to dwell on the irony of African American soldiers, fighting native people on behalf of government that accepted neither group as equals. The exceptional performance of these soldiers helped to overcome resistance to the idea of black officers paving the way for the first african-american graduate from West Point Henry O flipper. Who will hear more about later? But. Fellow soldiers played significant roles in many other military actions. They took part in defusing the little known eighteen, ninety two Johnson County war in Wyoming, which pitted small farmers against wealthy ranchers and a band of hired gunmen. They also fought in the Spanish American and Philippine American wars and played a key role in maintaining border security during the high intensity, military conflict along the US Mexico border during the Mexican revolution. In Nineteen Eighteen, the tenth cavalry fought at the Battle of ambos Nogales where they assisted enforcing the of the Mexican federal and militia forces. Discrimination played a role in diminishing the buffalo soldiers involvement in upcoming major conflicts. During world. War One the racist policies of President Woodrow Wilson among whose claims to infamy include segregating federal offices led to black regiments, being excluded from the American Expeditionary Force, and placed under French command for the duration of the war. The first time ever that American troops were placed under the command of a foreign power. Then prior to World War Two, the ninth and Tenth Cavalry Regiments were essentially disbanded, and most of their troops moved to service roles. However the Ninety Second Infantry Division known as the Buffalo Division did see combat during the invasion of Italy while another division that included the original Buffalo Soldiers of the twenty fifth infantry. Regiment fought in the Pacific theater. The last segregated. US Army regiments were disbanded in nineteen,
"korean war" Discussed on The Art of Manliness
"It was like one man show, will that this initial idea of invading or, you know, repelling the Americans coming in, and helping the South Koreans that was MacArthur's idea. Correct. Well, no, not just because I think everyone agreed that we, you know, we pledged in various ways to defend this fledgling democracy. We certainly didn't want it to become a communist, an inflow. I think history is proving that we were right. That, you know, the Kim was an unusually malevolent dictator, and you only have to go to create today to see the difference between South Korea and North Korea. And, and, and certainly, you know, soul has become this just amazingly dynamic city. It's, it's a South Korea's with lemon largest economy in the world. So, you know, I think if you ask veteran of the Korean war today, should we have been there, but we do in the right thing almost been Barry. They'll also yes up to the point where we came to the thirty eighth parallel going beyond the thirty eighth parallel is where all the problems really begin. But anyway. Yeah. Macarthur wanted to do this. But so did Truman and, and, and, you know, everyone wanted to defend South Korea. It's just that line. It's like once you cross that line, go into a much more complicated narrative. And that's where McArthur he says that we were successful here we kick. But why don't we just keep going? Yeah. The in China invasion was enormously successful. The prize North Korean Kim was on the run, you know. But he said, well, we need to pursue him into his own territory and destroy the remnants of his army. So he can't do this again. Okay. Fair enough. But let's keep going. Let's take you on Yang. Let's take other cities in with Korea. And then ultimately, let's go all the way to the border with China. Well, the analogy the Chinese would use is that, you know what if the Chinese had invaded Mexico and pushed all? The way to the Rio grant. What would we have done? Well, we would've entered the war preemptively. And that's what they did in a big way in, you know, as the beginning of, what people feared would be World War, three evident were, there people around MacArthur, like other generals. And she's like, that's not a good idea. You should not do that. There were some people who've voiced concerned, but his immediate his immediate staff know that, you know, he had surrounded himself with, with sycophants who told him what he wanted to hear agreed with them in foremost among them was this guy general Ned almond, who is his commander on the ground in Korea. And this is part of the problem. You see MacArthur was not on the ground in Korea. He was fly over occasionally for a photo op from Tokyo. And you know, it said that he never slept a single night on Korean soil during the Korean war. So he's the classic example of an absentee commander. And, you know, he just was out of touch with reality. And, and really, that's where a lot of the problems lie. So he didn't have he didn't have people disagreeing with in a vigorous way to adjust his view of things. You mentioned that truly didn't know how to handle MacArthur. The also had Marshall who seemed like it didn't. They know how to handle MacArthur either, and he kind of gave him the rubber stamp on, on this disease going past the thirtieth parallel. Why do you think Marshall did we just didn't know what to do with MacArthur as well? Just let him do it complicated a lot of different reasons. Certain people didn't know how to handle MacArthur's personality in general, and there was, of course, a political dimension to that, which, is that it was thought, why we thought that MacArthur was gearing up to run for president back in the states, you know, after the war. So he was alive wire in that sense McCarthy had just sort of risen his ugly head that year. Archaism was a factor in American politics, and the Democratic Party and trimming, in particular had been accused widely of a being soft on communism..
"korean war" Discussed on The Art of Manliness
"Hampton sides, welcome to the show. Great could be with you. So you just published a new military history book about the Korean war on desperate ground, the marines at the reservoir, the Korean wars greatest battles about the battle of the Chosin, reservoir thing about the Korean war is it's often the overlooked war in American history, people know about World War Two. Then there's the crane were happened and then there's Vietnam, and there's lots of movies and books about Vietnam. Why do you think the Korean war gets overlooked lots of reasons? I one of them is that it sometimes perceived as kind of an addendum to World War Two, you know. It's just sort of unfinished business having to do with World War, Two that kind of kind of an afterthought or something like that, I think it's also perceived by some people as not being truly a war. That's you know, sometimes it was called a police action UN police action, a conflict, but not a war that, you know, me assure you, it was a war, and it was brutal and devastating war. And and you know, one that would really feeling the consequences of still today. I think the third reason why it's kind of forgotten, is that it ended in a stalemate it ended more or less, where again, which was at the thirty eighth parallel the line separating north and South Korea. And, you know, Americans we, we like to think we win wars did non was an exception were that we lost, but a stalemate is a hard narrative to get your head around. They say we died for tie and that they. Being the veterans of this battle, and they'll just war. And, you know, I get that it's just kind of, it's kind of a messy narrative complicated. Unsettling narrative to understand. So those are those are certainly some of the and we're technically still at war. Right. And there's, there's been a armistice, like we're just kind of it's been put off for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. That to maybe a reason why it's kind of a forgotten war, is that it ended with this armistice that left some new the questions unanswered, we're still kind of poised on the brink of war. It's a scary place DMZ is a very scary place. And, you know, a flashpoint that could erupt at any moment, and, you know, most of our wars that we fought, you know, have a very clear and genitive ending and, and know it's got book ins, and you understand what that was, and it's over now Korea still kind of a cliffhanger, you know, it's still, it's still, they're still all these questions that need to be resolved in that certainly contributes to this provisional quality. I guess the, the whole war has an international consciousness. You know, it's like over yet was because it's overlooked. It's the forgotten war. I think a lot Americans. Don't even understand how we got involved in it. So he kinda goes. Like a thumbnail sketch of like how we ended up in Korea. It's a complicated thing and I'll try to do the one. Oh, one kind of version of it. Okay. So after World War Two the allied powers were tasked with responsibility of deciding what to do with the spoils of the Japanese empire, in Korea had been a colony of Japan, imperial Japan, the Japanese just brutally mistreated the Koreans. But it was they're calling, so the Soviets kinda got into that theater of the war very late in the game..
"korean war" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"On abortion rights and campaign. Finance already earned him opposition among Democrats. But last week's bombshell accusation has energized opponents or the Pentagon says the US hopes to begin face-to-face negotiations with North Korea next month on for resuming on the ground searches in North Korea for remains of American servicemembers remains of two servicemen killed in the Korean war and return by North Korea months ago, where identified by President Trump Thursday also on Thursday. Vice President Mike Pence spoke about the remains recovery. During remarks to the Korean war Veterans Memorial foundation. Karen? And I are deeply home. Join you on this hallowed ground is a poignant reminder that freedom is not free. And that we will always remember at the Korean war Veterans Memorial. We will continue to work diligently to achieve peace and security on the Korean peninsula. And we will never relent in our effort to bring our missing fallen. Heartbreak ridge old Baldy departure chop hill. You drove the enemy back. You held the line American forces and South Korean forces won a victory for freedom for the South Korean people and the world. While we understand your. To look away from those memories. We as grateful citizens never will. We will never forget the service and sacrifice of the American heroes of the Korean war. Fifty five boxes had been stored by the North Korean army. Probably.
"korean war" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio
"Many tunnels in north korea and their ability to hide mobile missiles and warheads in those tunnels probably nothing less than a ground invasion would provide even a modicum of confidence that uh you'd gotten i'm all in a late take months to do that it would be another korean war accept this one would involve probably twoway use of nuclear weapons in short it would be an unparalleled catastrophe with millions dying within days or weeks something that's never happened so the military or almost surely to come up with some alternatives to that under a presidential pressure and say well rather than a fullscale attack we could hit trust the missiles say just to test zone well what is possibly the purpose of doing that the unspoken purpose would be to derail the south korean north korean talks that have just started for the first time in over a year taking the focus away from the united states in its threats and moving toward a resolution which the trump administration has recklessly defined as inadequate namely a solution that leaves north korea with some or all of its current fishing warheads but averts it from getting hbombs or icbms hit may have prototypes of both of those and the reason by the way that they have it is very clearly to deter the us from the kinds of attacks the us has been exercising and threatening for years namely invasion of north korea assassination is kim jongun socalled decapitation of the regime against their command and control uh north korea has been saying now in preparing for a long time to respond to any such limited attack with a fullscale attack on the grounds that eventually it would escalate and it's better for them to escalate sooner rather than later that too is a crazy idea a desperate crazy.
"korean war" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Learned out there oh my gosh so it was there was no technological advantage it was just now and a gift that we didn't we were in our guide we figured out a deputy within over green emily a plus we were hitting plane deliver no gun we came out of the korean war the shooting guard and the in vietnam shooting missiles with no grounds on the plight the new the shooter missiles in they didn't have any defense and the and the enemy knew that they'd wait till the shot their missile of come in you have a abitbol you know it was his open open skies so uh and we figured out if we uh paddock could survive ten nations in the war zone he'd probably survive the war took that many so the navy started training them um those ten missions in and it took the air force about two years before they got smart it started the red flag tag exercises but they but the bottom line is we immediately i mean not over a month or two months i mean immeidately turned the keel racial round in vietnam and you stop and think about it how many wars has it been since vietnam that we have lost one central plain to air their combat we do not lose planes anymore and all because we started training them before we send them into the war well well and there's another example i didn't even know that one about how uh area fifty one his as protected the in our country um tell me you know part of the lower about the bases you hear stories about accidental intrusions sort of like you know the the grizz wall family drives up on onto the facility or a plane and private lies over with every guy cowher predatory on on the claim on the plane and skippy ula th the uh it went through a lot at night the as you urinate in amman earlier you know the red square when they had to make the no.
"korean war" Discussed on How To Be Amazing with Michael Ian Black
"Nds as long as they want so you're talking i think newsweek estimated that there could be as many as a million people dead in the first round of a korean war a second korean war then at that point north korea has you know if we attack them they may say well this is regime change we are we we we have nothing to lose they could new tokyo they're close enough to have the ballistic heft to bring an atomic bomb to tokyo and seoul and beijing and to guam in any hokkaido you know osaka i mean why are we betting the lives of these people toto show bluster duke the president of the united states does not back but this president does he doesn't seem to understand that he has a responsibility to not push this world to a place in which even one device detonates 'cause here's what happens until you acquit if let's say the united states loses its mind and they detonated for let's healing nice it's further loses its matlock goes goes completely off the rails and donald trump mix of finding and he says i find that north korea is a clear and present danger to the existence of the united states i'm ordering strategic air command to strategic missile command to prepare minute man three missile we're are going to nuke north korea's nuclear test site and training facilities right in 72 hours every walmart in america will empty and will not be restocked because all of all march products and foods come from china every ship on the high seas will turn back to those ports within 24 hours every nation on this planet if they hadn't done it already will pull every dollar out of america and divest from this country and put it somewhere safe likely yura which means the united states economy will collapse taking down the rest of the economies of the world and we will see i mean master area you know mass hysteria this is you have to understand these art toys less.
"korean war" Discussed on How To Be Amazing with Michael Ian Black
"Winds as long as they want so you're talking i think newsweek estimated that there could be as many as a million people dead in the first round of a korean war a second korean war then at that point north korea has you know if we attack them they may say well this is regime change we are we we we have nothing to lose they could nuked tokyo they're close enough they have the ballistic heft to bring an atomic bomb to tokyo and to seoul and to beijing and to guam and any hokkaido you know osaka i mean why are we betting the lives of these people took the oath to till show bluster you do the present in the united states does not back but this president does he doesn't seem to understand that he has a responsibility to not push this world to a place in which even one device detonates 'cause here's what happens until you acquit if let's say the united states loses its mind and they detonated for let's healing nice it's further loses its matlock goes goes completely off the rails and donald trump makes a finding and he says i find that north korea is a clear and present danger to the existence of the united states i'm ordering strategic air command to strategic missile command to prepare minute man three missile we're going to nuke north korea's nuclear test site and training facilities right in seventy two hours every walmart in america will empty and will not be restocked because all of walmart products and foods come from china every ship on the high seas will turn back to those ports within twenty four hours every nation on this planet if they hadn't done it already will every dollar out of america and divest from this country and put it somewhere safe like the euro which means the united states economy will collapse taking down the rest of the economies of the world and we will see i mean master area you know mass hysteria this is you have to understand these art toys lasting malcolm.
"korean war" Discussed on WBT Charlotte News Talk
"Joe scarborough this morning cut seventeen hatip media i go go as far as plus getting hammered ring icon interrupt me who do you when you call this person before this happen a guy who bagged a korean war veteran nightstop right here so he comes on of the show with the intent of being a special pleader for john conyers a korean war that there's a lot of korean war vets you fool who do not sexually abused people you you you doofus go ahead who will he got in congress is one of only four black members in congress nobody's questioning that you blistering buffoon questioning what he did in congress to women go ahead a guy who singlehandedly started the congressional black caucus oh wow wow we're beginning all these talking points from wicket pedia he singlehandedly started the congressional black caucus so where to excuse him ladies and gentlemen i don't ever want to hear again msnbc and this clown and this clown i don't ever want to hear again i'll a stern for women how they're progressive not in the ideological but in the in the actual dictionary sent to the world they believe in you know they're not backwards so not neanderthal go ahead who is responsible for parse lying in state in the united states cap ugly black woman to ever be afforded that honour what to do with his abuse of women he's going to make the case the john conyers gets a pass he's going to make the case go ahead oh he wasn't selma on that bloody bloody day so many years ago i wouldn't call that an icon i wouldn't call that and if you're offended by that here we go oh what jo happened four offended by that joe what happens go ahead calling a man like that an icon we'll let me just say that you.
"korean war" Discussed on All of the Above with Norman Lear
"The korean war when his draft the draft statistics were published in manila parsons saw it and publicized disgraced dale evans in this in there in the mid in the mid 40s forty fortyseven or some she started to doing a few shows with roy rogers so he had to determine at this point in his life whether he was going to continue being a movie star rosa going to stay with this women that he had taken up with nayan they had had three or four five kids themselves and they had adopted three or four five special needs kids he was really softhearted cat and so he decided on a hell with there's this new medium television i don't need to be a movie star he she had gone up to the ranch and wooden come off it she was so humiliated by lula person so he moved the whole thing up to the rich they got a tv show never left the rich they shouted their trigger was this whole family for crying out this is the story you're coming in the area this is gonna be great show start with marshall brick but there are amazing thing is no my generation to know and understand sunday about roy hodgson the eleventh get she added fifteen yearold son when she was thirty that she that part of the except masing that that is sept a story to tell it nobody knows an heroic move by him to say i'll just go into this new technology site yaseen yeah you know and did very well i think they had that show for ten years.
"korean war" Discussed on The Bangkok Podcast | Expat Life In Thailand Via Expats from Canada
"Granddaughter of the local witch and doesn't do what grandma which told her to do and so she becomes demon well as you do yeah so i can't these my favorite movie because it was pretty terrible like really terrible so but that's one time movie i've seen in the other one was i think it's pronounced hang over to the movie has it beds and bangkok in it so it's been a so so that's it for me now here's the deal now you're talking about these scary movies oil let me tell you i love crazy korean war movies oh may i too old boy you just psalm religions trilogy glory be stuff right so if you're tommy this tie staff is similar to that or there's something else that i should be looking in ominously laminant look up this the eye in the shooter or shutter and to see to see if those are are somewhere in in in that neighborhood could i would love to i would love to see more of of of the local stuff that'll be great benson's second question what is the podcast recording program you use create so so you what what what set up to use oxygen which microphones at got it gotta gotta yeah so again i kid you not much like we did for our patrons we did an entire episode where he ask each other questions ourselves back and forth and i and i talked podcasting way too long i could do it here but i'm going to try try not do so so here my current recording sap at the base is called he's zoom h four in and it's got microphone imports where i can plugin microphones or it actually has a builtin onboard mike with it which is quite good.
"korean war" Discussed on WLAC
"Us interior and it's just had to languages caught there so automatically when you're talking at us using expensive terminology there's a book in north korea called the us imperialists started the korean war bear caught that we started the korean war that we've been waiting to car korea since the eighteen sixty east when you assess general sherman went to pyongyang that part is true we did visit them back can 60s and now we've been biding our time to come back and finish the job that we started now many of your listeners our veterans of the korean war which completely devastating to the korean peninsula you have china russia and north korea in the at the north south korea us and un at the in the south and between the two two devastation was complete so their whole point is you remember how bad it wasn't the 50s we'll any day now at the american going to come back and finish that job and but for the leader you would all be debt and when you say but for the lead her um what's remarkable is the the calendar has been reset its the year what so the calendar stark again they're not going to have a christian calendar because having a bible the death penalty right so you're not going to have bc and and ad so they're calendar starts with the birth of the great leader kim ilsung in 1912 so that you're one case so the end he was i remember one of kim's family was bra brought down you know by angels are birds and uh i mean crazy kind of stuff that he remembers the day of his birth.
"korean war" Discussed on KBOI 670AM
"I'm john batchelor this is the john batchelor show the crisis in north asia continue the korean war unfinished korean war is the remaining tragedy of the first cold war however the origins of that conflict be again at the end of the second more i welcome mike of laos of johns hopkins to discuss the the choices the us has to make here in the twentyfirst that i'm reaching back into the 20th century the end of the war roosevelt and churchill very much wanted stalin to attack the japanese to roll up the japanese empire quickly because they were not certain they could ended without an invasion that would cost hundreds of thousands if not more lies of the american soldiers and british soldiers they didn't know that the bomb was sufficient so they wanted stalin to launch an attack into manchuria from siberia stalin had was not a war with japan he agreed hesitantly eventually he went along with it presuming that he could grab territory or at least make claims one of the claims that he wanted to make was in japan truman said no absolutely not bought trauma did not lay down such a stringent no about the korean peninsula which had been a slaves stay to japan for the balance of the 20th century the japanese were hated on the korean peninsula because of what they've done they call in and a colony but it was in fact a far worse than that the japanese defeat left korea really with no resources destroyed however there were two men that are important here both of them nash lewis syngman rhee and nationalist who had been to the united states senate written presciently about the threat of japan before the second war a man who came to identify himself with.
"korean war" Discussed on Mohr Stories With Jay Mohr
"Which helps them in the korean war because it's so mountainous to they are they they worship kim ilsung still he still lays in state and they go every day every day of their lunch break their bust in they combined that thousands and thousands to go by this he's laying in a gaseous state in the same suit that he was buried in with them ingushes steaks and wanna make a joke about a gap but i do about one of ours i have jfk to glory all earlier era idlib i appreciate the mustache i guess that's why this and is called glory you are great at your impersonations allrussian i haven't even done any the ones i'm known for but roger clinton got tracy morgan pregnant that is correct fact bill clinton blades taxable what is feet and i love tracy morgan each fair trade fair i remember roger clinton in deir you korea trade ufc fight they got inside peak robert mugage sugars mad we stayed at the kabul caches state mean it's it's got a gas in there that preserves his body inside this glass case a spooky he adds real spook them i guess you wanted to keep your state for eternity he wanted people come by every day all day their bustan and and these it's like a little at colony at and when we were playing at this there are also eldest let's not get race they're they're also known for their marble and granite but they can't they can't mynatt because of all the sanctions you see all these huge pieces of equipment that are just.
"korean war" Discussed on KKAT
"Uh long voiced their the other guys but uh i love hearing it thank you um luke maye um my car sorted a few uh when president trump uh mate coating i get the as i said to the which elon give it they call me to speak with you uh you know i think he should come out and make a a statement very similar to to reagan ruling reagan was talking a or which book the let's not this walduck well let's do the same thing this country and in the world should do the same thing with the north korea after it it and if i'm not mistaken at believe they were the treaty break when the north korean chefs or on the korean war start and let's face it it was the russians the chinese against the united states uh and that there was a treaty break oil colorful just off the wall war to uh you know uh brian windhorts your turn but the ceo at any so in telling decided that that's not correct well david let me stop you first second day if if i were forward of me to downtown new york per cup of coffee and and i i would say to you okay david here's the deal of sam torrance and a bunch of other people were advising trump he should talk to putin about meddling he should talk to putin about this he should talk to him at.
"korean war" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Korean officials to explore the possibility of resuming talks welcome to the program thank you for having me on and in the those meetings what was your impression russian of north korea's attitude toward resuming talks well unfortunately either attitude was not great on day said returning to talks for dialogue to talk about nuclear program or denuclearization is completely off the table there was absolutely no flexibility where we willingness to meet to talk about their nuclear programme what what would be on the table in that case in suits the nuclear program if the us wants to talk about what they want to talk about is first stay said the united states should accept them as a nuclear power and then they'll willing to discuss formally ending the korean war by concluding a peace treaty or a peace regime which really means getting us forces off the korean peninsula which seems very unlikely for the us to to agree to a stage we what is very unrealistic for us to go from where we are to talk about peace treaty uh why he sounds good in theory you have to remember we have a lot more agreements with north korea but every time every ugliness fell apart over various occasion so what does a peace treaty really mean after we listen we get us forces out of the korean peninsula with south korea there are still unwilling to get rid of the nuclear programme or even if they see they're going to get rid of the nuclear program how do we verified that what what what do you think the us policy should be in north korea or what what should be looking for on on on nuclear questions if the verification so so difficult this is a long sending problem that the united states had to.
"korean war" Discussed on 99% Invisible
"These objections provoke the biggest showdown yet between the city and the squatters in may of 1994 everybody was on edge and everybody was on the lookout and all i remember called me one night and they said okay this is like one hundred riot cuffs have arrived and they're like four blocks away in the number grew they was sending in a basically as maloney the police had brought a take repurpose from the korean war officers took up positions on the roofs of neighbouring buildings meanwhile squatters patrolled the neighborhood with walkietalkies reporting on the growing numbers of police bewildered bicycle frames to their fire escape so it would be impossible for police or firefighters to climb them they packed their staircases with rubble to make them impossible the poor tara on the street so police would have to march through it on their way to the buildings and you know again in a creative responses in china's after the building it is ups bucket at nobody's got a nobody's got a try company you know it's like it was it's it's vile that it's like hey you know you got guts wake up as buckets the police presence went on for months sealed off the ends of the block and required people to shell id before they let them threat still the squatters when we and i think that that expands an inconvenience and embarrassed man this part of our led the city to eventually decide that that this wasn't the way to go and they're going to have to find some other way to deal with the squatters there were left on the buildings.
"korean war" Discussed on 99 Percent Invisible
"These actions provoke the biggest showdown yet between the city and the squatters in may of nineteen ninety five everybody was on edge and everybody was on the lookout and all i remember called me one night and they said okay this is like one hundred riot cops have arrived and they're like four blocks away in the number grew they was sending in a basically as maloney the police had brought a take repurpose from the korean war officer took up positions on the roofs of neighbouring buildings meanwhile squatters patrolled the neighborhood with walkietalkies reporting on the growing numbers of police bewildered bicycle frames to their fire escape so it would be impossible for police or firefighters to climb them they packed their staircases with rubble to make them impossible before tara on the street so police would have to march through it on their way to the buildings and you know again in a creative responses in china's after the building it is ups bucket nobody's got nobody has got a try company you know it's like it was it's it's vile that it's like hey you know you got guts wake up as buckets the police presence went on for months sealed off the ends of the block and required people to shell id before they let them threat still the squatters when we and i think that that expense and inconvenience and embarrassment this part of the city to eventually decide that that this wasn't the way to go and they're going to have to find some other way to deal with the squatters were left on the buildings.