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Mansa Musa

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Mansa Musa

"In the following story dates names often differ among primary sources. When the correct name was in question we went with the most widely accepted English version when dates are in doubt we use the timeline offered in the book Monson Mussa in Timbuktu by Charles River editors in the summer of thirteen twenty four and extravagant and lavish procession paraded through the western gate of Cairo? The thriving capital of Egypt at the head of this procession was a line of five hundred men dressed in richly woven fabrics of purple green and Crimson. Each man held six pounds. Staff made a pure gold following these heralds came a splendid rider on a stately. Black Lack Arabian thoroughbred. The writer wore a red tunic. Stitched with golden threads and impossibly wide silk pants. A A sign of His Majesty and power on his head sat a gold skullcap. The man's gold and silver jewelry glittered in the afternoon after noon son. The writer saw thousands of onlookers packing the streets to get a glimpse of him. He tossed them gold coins by the handful behind him. Came more riders on fine horses dancers in rich silks servants decked in colorful headdresses and hundreds of camels Dell's loaded with enormous sacks of gold. And this was just. The vanguard camped outside the city were sixty thousand IOS and more men women and children a moving city that had just crossed the Sahara desert. The distance of California two main it. It all belong to the man on the splendid Arabian Horse Monster. Mussa Emperor of Molly the richest mayhem. Hi I'm Vanessa. Richardson and Carter Roy. Welcome to historical figures. Apar- cast original every other Wednesday. We discussed the different persons lasting historical impact unique personality and impression on the world around them. 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We're discussing MONSA Moussaka the enormously enormously wealthy ruler of the West African Empire of Mali in the fourteenth century Konkan Mussa was born around twelve eighty ce into the family that founded founded the Malayan Empire as Monsa or emperor he would go on to become not just the wealthiest man of his generation but the wealthiest person listen who ever lived adjusted for inflation modern estimates put his fortune around four hundred billion dollars. That's that's a lot of money yes it is. In fact it's more than today's three richest people combined the only other historical figure who comes even close. This is John. D. Rockefeller the nineteenth century oil magnate whose estimated to have been worth around three hundred eighty billion in today's dollars. Mussa lead molly. During the height of its golden age expanding the Empire's borders spreading the teachings of Islam and cleaning up the corruption that had proliferated rated for decades few people in the broader medieval world. had heard of molly before Mussa came to power but by the time he died his name and his empire the stuff of Legend but reaching that height of wealth and of the fame that came with it had never been guaranteed for Konkan Mussa. Despite being related to the imperial family the Kingdom of Molly emerged the eleven hundreds as one of several Islamic Kingdoms wyndhams in west Africa that rose up from the ashes of the Ghana Empire. By the time Konkan Mussa was born around twelve. Eighty his grandfather Abubakari Luba Cari ruled over a vast empire. Molly stretched over a thousand miles from east to west covering a wide swath of Saharan and sub sub-saharan West Africa that included both the Senegal and Niger River valleys. The Empire had control of gold mines near the southern border which were operated by the longer people molly also had well established trade routes in gold and salt adding to their considerable wealth. Konkan Mussa was probably born in the royal palace in the capital city of Neon. -I the name. He was given as Arabic for Moses born into privilege. He was in and direct line for the throne but all that fell apart when young Mussa was just five years old in twelve eighty five. His grandfather grandfather abubakari died. How he died is not known but his son Moose's father foggy Leah didn't take the throne after him instead? Usurper named Sikora seized power. The circumstances surrounding Sikora's rise. Our mystery was Mussa's father already dead by by then. Did Sikora defeat him in battle. The historical record provides few answers. What is known is that Sikora was a former slave who we'd been freed and had risen to become a prominent General Tomasa Sunday Yata and his successors under his rule as MONSA? The empire began to to expand again. As the general turned emperor retook the lands that his predecessors had lost he revived their dwindling trade routes and return molly he to its former glory where con con Mussa was during this time or what he was doing is lost history. Nothing in fact is known of his Childhood Hood or upbringing aside from his connections to the imperial family and that he had at least one younger brother named Sulaiman. We also know Oh that around twelve ninety eight months. A Kura decided to go on the hajj. The annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca West Africa had begun to convert sort is llamas. Several hundred years earlier by the time the Malian Empire came into prominence in the twelve. Hundreds Islam was well established among the ruling in classes Mansa Uli some forty years earlier had taken the hajj as well but on his way back home to molly. MSA Secures Party was was attacked by bandits and the emperor was murdered wanting to reestablish the ruling family on the Empire's thrown the Imperial Council looked to a nephew a few of the empire's founder Sunday Outta this nephew named cow took the throne around the year. Thirteen hundred Konkan Mussa so was about twenty years old thirteen hundred and it's not known whether the Council considered him for the position. Having been the grandson of a former MONSA. It's possible he was considered too young to take the throne at that time. Moussa was probably living comfortably. In neon -I completing his education this would have included mastering several languages including Arabic and becoming proficient in Islamic history and theology as a member of the imperial family. Mussa must have also learned how to lead and govern. He would likely have had lessons in things. Like Science History Geometry and economics given his known appreciation for scholarly pursuits. While Mussa was busy completing his education. His relatives ruled an increasingly wealthy and powerful empire in thirteen. o five months ago was followed on the throne by his son. Mohammed when Muhammad died died around thirteen ten he was followed by a man named Abubakari. How this second Bukhari was related to the Royal Family's not clear ear but evidence suggests he was either a grandson or grandnephew of the first emperor? Mon- says Sunday Yada the only biographical information mation historians have on a Bukhari. The second comes from a story told by con Mussa himself which was written down a few years after his death. According to Mussa Abubakari the second was a dreamer and explore intent on continuing to expand his new empire. He dreamed voyaging waging into the Atlantic Ocean and colonizing the places. He found their one hundred fifty years before Christopher Columbus was born Abubakari. Sorry the second was convinced. There was land beyond the Great Western Ocean. In the first year of his reign. Mansa Abubakari sent four four hundred ships out from the western coast of Africa on an exploratory mission to see if they could find the other side of the ocean. Several months later a single ship returned telling a story that must have kindled. Boubacar is spirit of adventure. The captain claimed that the ships came upon what he called a river in the ocean with a powerful current. The other ships went on ahead. But this particular captain stayed back. When none of the other other ships returned he finally turned eastward and headed back home? According to Mussa Abubakari immediately began planning a second journey this time he wanted to see for himself exactly what the captain was talking about. He built a thousand ships to carry himself and his men and then built another thousand to carry all their supplies. It was customary among the emperors of Mali to publicly name a deputy to oversee the the empire when they were away on military or diplomatic expeditions. abubakari chose thirty two year. Old Konkan Mussa to take care of things in his absence. How the two men were related is not known? Although Mussa was likely a nephew or cousin as a member of the ruling family he was probably already working in government in some way Mussa was also probably there on the western shore in thirteen twelve to see the great armada of ships. Tips embark on their grand journey. He would later state. I became the master of Molly because my predecessor refused to believe that the ocean was infinite. He assigned to me his authority and power until such day as he should return a two day. No one has ever seen him again. COMING UP WE'LL EXPLORE CON con Mussa's reign as the the emperor of Molly. 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Stay stay and rollover with excitement for podcasts. endearing series dog tales listened to dog tales. Free on spotify. Or wherever. You get your podcasts outcasts. Now back to the story. Around the year thirteen twelve Konkan Hong Kong Mussa became the emperor of Molly when his predecessor Abubakari. The second failed to return from exploration of the Atlantic Ocean Mussa. There was about thirty two years old at the time he had spent his early life in the background. Biding his time now. He stepped onto the world. Stage the exact circumstances surrounding the transfer of power are not clear but by thirteen twelve Mussa and his family had moved into the Royal Palace in the capital city of neon e and Mussa began running the empire. One of the first issues facing him was the problem of lawlessness particularly securely along the trade routes trade was the backbone of Mali's economy isolated in west Africa from the power centers of Europe and the Middle East. Molly relied on very long. Trade routes which branched off from the Empire in almost all directions used by travelers as well as trade caravans over the years. These routes had become infested with crime nomadic torok tribesmen prayed on the traders and travellers. Sometimes they would require told to pass other times. They would attack a party outright killing travelers and taking their goods they were even known to attack a town or village college in the immediate area. For years the situation had severely limited trade and travel to and from the isolated empire this was especially true on the Western trade route that ran northward across the Sahara to Morocco. From there it would pass across north Africa and into the Middle East. This was the vital artery tamales economic heart because the most abundant salt mines were situated along this Western trade route. Molly was awash in gold old but lacked salt. Trading gold for salt was one of the primary sources of income for the Empire as a result. Mussa was determined to establish I safe passage for his trade caravans. He wanted to be the richest and most powerful Emperor Africa had ever seen and he knew that gold and other trade goods were the way to make that happen. Molly had a military of about one hundred thousand men including nearly ten thousand was and mounted soldiers in the cavalry leading. His men into battle. Mussa attacked the brigands and desert nomads. Who played the trade routes within the empire he was able to drive them back into the desert and away from the caravans but all his work wasn't done at the tip of a sword? Musso was widely known for his negotiating initiating skills which he put to use with Tauregs by paying them off he insured. They would steer clear of the trade routes allowing Molly's economy to swell clearing the countryside and trade routes of crime not only boosted the Empire's economy but one praise and renowned for Mussa. He had passed his first test is emperor and was increasingly seen as not only a wise and effective administrator but a successful military leader as well with his empire cleared of Brigands Monson. Mussa turned his attention to matters of religion a devout Muslim who is likely well educated in the Karan when he began using the country's growing wealth to build mosques. One legend go so far as to say that he commissioned a new mosque. Every Friday of his reign and while Islam had been practiced among Mali's royals and elites for centuries many of the Empire's peasants and commoners still practiced older forms himself traditional African religion Mussa issued edicts for millions to convert Islam. He reinforced this by building. Numerous religious schools this he knew would help spread the teachings of Mohammed to new generations of Malians whose parents were still steeped in the old ways but he also knew how to balance his is deep piety with his commitment to the secular health of the empire when news of his edicts trickled down to the one Gara gold miners in the south of the empire. They didn't take it well. Located in the modern area of burkina-fasso in Ghana the one Gara were staunchly loyal. To their way of life and the leaves they rebelled against Mussa's edict convert initiating. What later generations would call a labor strike? They had no intention of converting to Moose's who says religion which these people of the land likely saw as a vehicle of the elite as the very foundation of Mali's economy. These gold miners liners knew they had a lot of clout. The strike became a standoff. As Mussa's government insisted on carrying out his decree and the strikers responded by refusing to work Mussa's more hawkish ministers advised him to lead the army to the southern provinces and force the miners to go back to work. DOC but Mussa didn't dare advice instead he gave into the miners demands. Exempting them from the requirement to convert to Islam a ED promptly went back to work and the flow of gold returned. His decision was viewed and widely retold as an example of his great wisdom through it. He sent a message to his people that he was willing to listen to them. And do what was in their best interest and that of the nation on a much more personal level all it showed that despite his piety Mussa was willing to bend the rules if he thought it would negatively impact his wealth and status archaeologist Ashley. John Hilary Goodwin has stated that for Mussa Islam was more than just prayers and scripture readings. It was also a way of bringing his empire into the modern age and gaining respect for himself in the cultural centers of the Middle East. None of that would have been possible without his gold mines. So when they rebelled against against his attempt to convert them Mussa wisely allowed the miners to retain their traditional beliefs building. Wealth and power was one one thing but Mussa was also intent on displaying it. He likes to play the part of the Aloof and majestic ruler. He was acutely aware era of the importance of public perception. If you wanted to be a strong and powerful king you had to look and act the part. And that's just what what Mussa did he conducted the business of the empire from top a magnificent Ebony throne on a pedestal in the courtyard of the palace the throne own was flanked by two upright ivory tusks which were potent symbols of power. Retinue of armed guards stood in a row behind him When Mussa entered the courtyard trumpets and drums would announce his entrance once he was seated a large curtain was drawn revealing him in his splendor on the throne? The assembled crowd was expected to show proper deference to the king. They arrived wearing dirty clothes. As freshly freshly laundered garments were considered disrespectful to the king's own spotless elegance when the curtain was raised they went to their knees and bow their heads to the ground ground then they took handfuls of dust and ported over themselves. As a way of groveling. Before Mussa's resplendent resplendent majesty only Mussa gave a signal. Could they finally rise into a sitting position on the ground in front of his race thrown. Once the proper respect it had been paid Mussa would begin conducting. The business of the court. Servants would stand by his side shading him with large woven umbrellas and fanning him from the heat of the African Sun. A herald with a booming voice repeated his words to the gathered audience. The Herald was a close advisor the emperor and wore robes of rich fabric and a specially decorated turban. He carried a sword at his waist and held to ceremonial spears. One one of gold and silver heralds were chosen from among the lower classes. This was so that he could never outshine the emperor's dignity with his own family connections. As a general rule. Mussa never spoke publicly to anyone but his heralds if he needed to say something to someone else the Herald spoke on his behalf. On court days. Petitioners would come from all over the empire to have Mussa rule on legal matters and settle disputes from his throne took reports from his ministers and issued orders and commands he also oversaw religious and secular ceremonies on feast days. He he wrote out to a specially designated field on horseback arriving as always to the sounds of trumpets and drummers he was accompanied by a retinue who of soldiers each decked out in gleaming armor and carrying swords and spears gold and silver decorated their scabs quivers and arrows everything gleaming in the African Sun after Mussa arrived the festivities would begin entertainment during the feasting included singers dancers servers music and acrobats. The Herald would recite epic poems about the history of Mali and the exploits of the emperor. Mussa for his part would give away gold to the assembled masses most of us these festivals as a way to display his wealth splendor and generosity. All of which were were expected trades of any powerful king it also kept his subjects happy and Mussa knew that word would spread of his benevolence and majesty hosting feasts and giving away. Gold was a quick and easy way to earn appreciation but Mussa knew that improving the livelihood of his people. People was the best way to earn a lasting reputation as the trade routes flourished in his early years on the throne. His subjects began to thrive in addition to gold mines. Molly was rich. In farmland and rivers as the economy boomed food was abundant. Mussa subjects were well-fed. Oh Fed well educated well clothed and had a high standard of living compared to their European counterparts who often lived in abject misery especially especially as the trade caravans began to bring in more than just salt imports began to arrive from as far away as Europe Persia and even China. These included everything from spices and silks to handmade tools fine fabrics and Arabian horses in exchange for these goods from across the known world molly exported not just gold but also copper copper was especially prized in the land south of Mali where they made brass us from copper and zinc a valuable copper mine. On the eastern edge of molly had been annexed several decades earlier by Mussa's predecessor Mansa Mansa Sakura but being operated by the rebellious tauregs taxes and fees hadn't always been paid that all changed with Mussa's campaign to pacify pacify the tauregs early in his reign. Trade in copper increased tax revenue began flowing in Moosa would later state. There is nothing in in all my empire which is such a large source of taxes as this coppermine and those taxes are how Mussa really built his legendary legendary wealth as salt copper silks livestock and countless other trade goods poured into and out of the empire. All of of it was subject to taxation every marketplace had a royal tax collector assigned to it and every town had financial officer to oversee the king's things business there the goal began to pile up and Moussa's treasury used it to fund military campaigns to expand the empire's borders broadening his reputation as a successful military leader and by putting more lands under Mali's control Mussa brought even more wealth into the nation under Mansa Moussa Molly had entered a true golden age. It was at the height of this golden age around the year. Thirteen twenty three. That Mussa decided he was ready to be officially introduced to the world. By this time he'd been at the helm of Mali's Empire for eleven years and he was was about forty three years old. He brought his advisors together and asked them to begin planning a grand pilgrimage to Mecca in the Arabian Peninsula. Every Muslim awesome is required to make the hajj at least once in their lifetimes as a particularly devout ruler. Mussa was especially eager to go. Furthermore for any medieval Muslim ruler who wanted to be known far and wide taking the hajj was a vital necessity. Not only did it fulfil a religious this requirement but it was an opportunity to display wealth power and prestige and Mussa had every intention of outdoing any sultan ruler or king. who had come before him? He was determined to make his pilgrimage. One for the history books Coming up we'll explore one of the most famous pilgrimages in history and how it made months Mussa. Aw a household name across the Muslim world now back to the story in thirteen twenty three forty. The three year old Manson Mussa was at the height of his power. His Empire of Mali was in the midst of a golden age and Mussa had amassed a personal fortune that outstripped all of his predecessors on the throne. It was in that year of thirteen twenty three that Mussa began planning a pilgrimage to Mecca in fulfilment fulfilment of his duty as a Muslim he intended to put the full force of his prodigious wealth behind the journey from his capital city of Neon -I the pilgrimage midge would cover more than four thousand miles he planned on inspecting the resources of his many towns and mines along the way as possible so he chartered a journey journey. Along the most valuable trade route in the empire he would travel nearly a thousand miles northward into the Sahara. Then turn northeast. Just continue on to Cairo from Cairo. He would cross the Sinai desert and enter the Arabian Peninsula. The final leg would take himself and other seven hundred miles to Mecca the pilgrims with Mussa at their head set off on their journey in February of thirteen. Twenty four when Moussa was was about forty four years old as his predecessor Abubakari. The second had done Mussa named a deputy to lead the empire in his absence. He chose his oldest son Mulligan who was probably in his twenties at the time he also left his best general in charge of the military taking his second in command on the pilgrimage. Instead Moose's wife a woman named in our economic came with him on the journey and brought along five hundred servants servants. That's a Lotta servants. Yes it is but it's nothing. Compared to her husband's retinue Mussa is said to have brought along twelve thousand servants servants including five hundred. Whose job was simply to carry golden staffs and walk in front of him? The rest carried his bank account for pounds. Gold bars each joining. This huge entourage were eight thousand soldiers and Cavalry to protect the caravan on its journey. In addition to at them another forty thousand people came along for the trip including government officials wealthy nobles and their families and servants and every day Molly Ivins who wanted to make the hajj in addition to the servants who carried gold bars. Some eighty to a hundred camels were loaded with three hundred pounds. Hounds each of gold dust. Gold Dust measured in Wade was the preferred form of currency in the empire. All told it's estimated that Mussa traveled with about a billion dollars worth of gold as the caravan got underway. The going was slow with so how many people it was impossible to make more than a few miles each day in every town and village they pass through. Mussa commissioned the building of a mosque leaving enough gold to pay for the materials and construction. It took nearly six months to reach Cairo upon their arrival. The caravan setup a tent hence city near the Pyramids while Mussa and his retinue made a grand entrance into the sprawling Egyptian capital but when he was taken to meet the powerful powerful Sultan there was a problem. Egypt's Selden at the time was a man named all messier. Muhammad is deputy informed Mussa. Who says that any visitor to the sultan was required to bow and kiss the ground before him Mussa knowing good and well that he was not only wealthier but also ruled a larger kingdom in the sultan flat out refused? Very little is known about Mansa Moussa as a person but it's clear that he guarded his own indignity and Royal Majesty. He wouldn't grovel before anyone but not meeting with powerful Gypsy consultant while Mussa was in Cairo. ARRO- was simply not an option. They seem to be at an impasse until Mussa finally had a bright idea. He agreed bow in the Salton Hiltons presence but to characterize it as bowing before Allah with the matter of protocol settled Mussa and the sultan met and and Mussa was formally invited into the city. He ended up staying three months in Cairo resupplying. His Caravan and spending prodigiously in the city's marketplace's during his long stay in Cairo. Word of his wealth and power began to spread into the larger Arab world exactly as he intended his generosity and extravagance quickly became legendary finally in the fall of thirteen. Twenty twenty four. The Caravan moved out of Cairo and headed westward into Arabia. It passed through the sacred city of Medina. Where the Prophet Mohammed was was buried? Mussa prayed at his tomb and left an offering of forty mule loads worth of gold dust. Then the party moved on to Mecca arriving arriving as planned in time for the festivities of that year's Hajj Mecca was the one place where Mussa wasn't allowed to show off his finery and wealth all pilgrims Grimm's on the hajj are required to wear the same undecorated white gowns. Mussa and his people join the throngs of pilgrims for week of prayer ceremonies and celebrations when it was over Mussa stayed for a while in Mecca. which was the religious cultural and academic center of the Muslim world? He recruited routed numerous people to return with him to Mali. Including architects scholars. Theologians artists and writers. He'd succeeded in making his empire fire wealthy in gold now he wanted to make it wealthy in knowledge and culture too but not all was well on the home front all throughout his pilgrimage. Mussa had been receiving regular reports from messengers who travelled along roads between his capital and the Middle East while he was still in Mecca. He received word that a rebellion had broken out in one of Mali's eastern provinces. This convinced him that it was time to go home. The Caravan began retracing. Its route back to Cairo. Despite starting off with thousands of pounds of gold and gold dust Mussa had managed to spend did all on his lavish pilgrimage as a result when he got back to Cairo he was forced to take a large loan to fund the rest of the trip. Home while this this was good news for Egypt which had seen the value of gold depreciate after Mussa's first visit the summer before he'd spent so much gold it had flooded the market market and driven the value of gold down by nearly twenty percent but when he took out a huge loan with interest prices rebounded deciding he needed to get home home quickly to see to the rebellion. Mussa opted to take a different route home from Cairo heading South West through the most desolate and arduous portion of the Sahara. Hera when he arrived back in his empire he discovered probably to his great delight that his generals had already put down the rebellion and captured more territory in the process process. This included the large and important trading center of Timbuktu on the Niger River once he arrived back in his capital of neon Mussa immediately took gold out of his treasury to pay off the enormous loan. He taken back in Cairo. The bankers had loaned him the money had expected to make a fortune and interest instead he paid off the loan in one installment ruining the bankers hopes and flooding the Egyptian market again with gold. Now about forty six years old and debt free Mussa turned his attention to improving the infrastructure of his booming empire MM pyre he immediately put to work all the architects artists scholars and skilled laborers. that he brought with him back from Mecca and Cairo. His new principal architect was a thirty five year old Spaniard. He'd met in Cairo named Abraham. Also holly a poet and intellectual as well as an architect architect also. Holly began building campaign throughout Mali. That transformed the towns and villages under Moose's direction also. Holly built a large mosque. Ask in Timbuktu. That became the home of a new university. Mussa endowed with thousands of books and manuscripts. He'd obtained on his pilgrimage. It soon became became a center of learning equal to its counterparts in the rest of the world at its height it had twenty five thousand students learning everything from mathematics and medicine to astronomy history and philosophy Timbuktu's library surpassed anything in Egypt or the Middle East. In fact under Mussa it grew to become one of the largest libraries in the world with more than a million books and manuscripts in time Timbuktu itself began to prosper. Mussa built a palace there and spent an increasing amount of time in the city the population boomed and it's fame and renown as a cultural cultural center began to spread stories of a great city of gold known for its learning and advancement filtered across Europe and the Middle East scholars and historians and adventurers flocked to the city to see for themselves marveling at what Monson Mussa had created with his name in and his empire now increasingly known across Europe and the Middle East Mussa began establishing diplomatic relations with foreign countries trade which was already the backbone of the Empire's economy and wealth increased. Even more in time molly became the second largest empire of its day. Larger than Europe's Holy Roman Empire and second in size only to the Yuan Dynasty in China. It boasted more than four hundred cities and towns. John's as with his early days little is known of the final years of Monson. Mussa's life in thirteen thirty when Moussa was about Fifty Fifty Timbuktu was attacked by warriors from the Mossi Kingdom which was situated to the southeast of Mali. Moussa led his powerful army against these invaders Peter's and managed to expel them following this. He built a wall around the city. With a fort to protect it from future assaults. It was his last widely Lee known act as emperor shortly after Mussa died of unknown causes some time between thirteen thirty two and thirteen thirty seven. Even his son mcgann took the throne after him and ruled until thirteen forty one. He was then followed by his uncle. Mussa's younger brother Soleil Mom Tom Under these rulers and those who came after them the Malayan Empire began to crumble. None could match months Moose's charisma. Aw or his innate ability to lead the Empire's borders began to shrink and the great cities fell to ruin Timbuktu who was absorbed into the growing Song Guy Empire and eventually it to declined its buildings falling into rubble and its streets reclaimed. by The desert cert- by the early nineteenth century. The city was little more than a legend. With geographic societies offering large sums of money any to European explorers or adventurers. Who could rediscover it? By the time molly became a remote French colony in eighteen. Ninety two Mussa's Moussa's great empire was long gone and largely forgotten by the outside world. Monson Mussa was not only the richest just a person who ever lived. He was also a powerful leader. Who made a profound impact not just on molly and West Africa but on the larger known world his pilgrimage to Mecca became the stuff of legend passed down in oral history and written down by travelers and historians he spent bent so much gold on his journey that destabilize the entire Middle Eastern gold market it was severe in fact that it took a decade for prices to recover recover in Egypt? It's the only time in recorded history that a single individual and his spending has resulted in the destabilization of currency Eh. Though his empire crumbled after his death traces of his building campaign remain including one of the mosques he built in Timbuktu like all of the buildings designed by his principal architect. It was built entirely of earth and Straw. During his reign months. Mussa doubled the physical size of the Malian Empire. Expanding it to include parts of modern Mali Mauritania Burkina Foucault Senegal and I and Guinea furthermore trade tripled under his rule and the standard of living for his subjects surpassed the norms in Europe and the Middle East. Uh Archaeologist Ashley. John Hilary Goodwin has stated it can be said with fair certainty that the Malian Empire of the fourteenth century was far stronger stronger far richer far better organized and even more literate than any Christian power in Europe thanks to his prodigious wealth and his famous pilgrimage Mussa is credited with literally pudding molly on the map prior to his reign European map makers routinely marked West Africa Africa with drawings of fantastic beasts and empty desert's after Mussa's rain that all changed in fact in thirteen in thirty nine just a few years after Mussa's death molly was featured prominently on what would become the most famous map of the Middle Ages the so-called Catalan atlas of thirteen seventy five a six paneled work of art showing the entire known world at the time it shows molly and several of its cities including Yanni in Timbuktu. 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'Devil All The Time' Novelist / 'PEN15' Creators Return To Middle School

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'Devil All The Time' Novelist / 'PEN15' Creators Return To Middle School

"From whyy, in Philadelphia, this is fresh air. I'm David Being Cooley. In for Terry Gross, Today Donald Ray pollock author of the devil all the time which is set in knock him stiff Ohio the small town where he grew up pollock didn't become a writer until he put in over thirty years, the local paper mill and got sober. A film version of the devil all the time start streaming next week on Netflix. We'll also hear from Anna Konkan Meyer Erskine creators and stars of the Hulu Comedy Series Penn fifteen about the extreme emotions and awkwardness of being in middle school. They're in their thirties but in the show, they play middle school versions or from cells. New episodes of Penn fifteen starts streaming next week. Also. Justin Chang Views Charlie Kaufman's new Netflix's film I'm thinking of ending things. Today's first guest is author Donald Ray Pollock, whose novel the devil all the time has just been made into a new netflix movie premiering next Wednesday. It Stars Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson, and here's a taste in this clip. A young boy has just watched his father pulverized two guys after they made lewd comments about the father's wife, the son's mother. Afterward the father gives his son some advice. You remember what I told you. On. The buzzer gave you. That's what I mean. got. To. Sir. Good sons of bitches out there. One hundred. These that many. Cannonball. In, both the movie and the novel the characters in the devil all the time are driven to extremes whether their fathers and sons, serial killers or preachers. The story begins in the small town of knock him stiff a real place in southern Ohio where Donald Ray pollock grew up. He didn't become a writer until he put in over thirty years at the local paper mill and got sober. But. Once he did start writing. He was noticed quickly receiving both awards and critical. Acclaim. Terry, gross spoke to Donald Ray pollock in twenty eleven when the devil, all the time was first published. Donald, Ray pollock welcome to fresh air. I'd like to start with reading from your new book, the Devil, all the time It's about the second paragraph from the prologue. So would you just set it up for us? What we have here is A young boy's name is Arvin Eugene Russell and he's following behind his father Willard and there and place called knock him stiff and they're going to Willard's prayer logging as a log in the woods where he Wants to communicate with God and So this is where they are. You know early in the morning and their. have finally reached this log. Willard eased himself down on the high side of the law and motion for his son to kneel beside him in the dead soggy leaves unless he had whiskey running through his veins Willard came to the clearing every morning and evening talk to God. Arvin didn't know which was worse the drinking or the praying. As far back, as he could remember, it seemed that his father had faulted devil all the time. Arvin little with the damp pulled his Co. tighter. He wished he were still in bed even school with always miseries was better than this but it was a Saturday and there was no way to get around it. Through the mostly bare trees beyond the cross Arvin could see whisper smoke rising from a few chimneys, half a mile away four hundred or so people lived in, knock him stiff in nineteen, fifty seven nearly all of them connected by blood through one godforsaken clam or another be it lust were necessity or just plain ignorance along with the tar paper shacks and Cinder Block houses the Holler included two general stores and a Church of Christ in Christian Union and joint known throughout the township as the bullpen. Three days before he'd come home with another black I I, don't condone no fighting just for the hell of it but sometimes, you're just too easy going Willard told him that evening then boys might be bigger than you. But the next time one of them starts his stuff, I want you to finish it. Willard was standing on the porch changing out of his work clothes. He handed Arvin Brown pants stiff with dried blood and Greece. He worked in a slaughterhouse in Greenfield and that day sixteen hundred homes had been butchered a new record for RJ Carol meat-packing. Those boy didn't know yet what he wanted to do when he grew up he was pretty sure he didn't WanNa kill pigs for eleven. Let's Donald Ray pollock reading from his new novel, the Devil, all the time. You know in the reading that you did the father tells the sun that the next time. So many beats him up the sun has to fight back and that seems to be. A recurring theme like in the opening story of your collection of short stories, the collections called knock him stiff. The opening sentence reads my father showed me how to hurt a man one August night at the torch in when I was seven years old it was the only thing he was ever any good at. You certainly seem interested in the idea of a father. Kind of indoctrinating a sun on the need to fight back and then egging on to do it even when it's inappropriate. so was is this a story that played out in your life? Well, not so much in my life I. Mean as far as I don't my dad really didn't push me to fight or anything like that. But you know when I was growing up my father and I had a very Uneasy relationship. You've got to understand my dad was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty he's still alive. You know he's eighty years old and he's still kicking but He was born in. Nineteen thirty grew up in the depression I went to the eighth grade. He was working on the railroad by the time he was sixteen, and then he was in the navy. And, my dad is a very tough. Hard. man Stra very strong man. As and in contrast to that, my mother is very shy kind. Small Bone woman. and. Either fortunately or unfortunately for me, I took after my mother and I believe. When I was a kid, my dad was. Maybe disappointed for not taking after him more. So. You know that's where I guess part of that comes from it and part of it also comes from. Lived in stiff. That's where I grew up and I saw a lot of other fathers who were you know drinkers and hell raisers and they didn't treat their families very well You know maybe they went and worked for a while and. I got enough money to go on another band or whatever, and pretty much left the family to take care of themselves. So, yeah father's have a pretty rough time and my work I just. It's just. You know I'm a father. You know I have a daughter WHO's I'm thirty years old now and I have always felt that I. Wasn't. As good as I could have been. Her mother and I were divorced when she was very young she was like a year old and and I wasn't around that much and. That's probably the best explanation. I can give for why treat father's like I do my work. Were you bullied in school. You said you, you took after your mother who wouldn't hurt a fly. So and if you were bullied, would you fight back? Did you know how to actually I wasn't bullied in school I? Never really had any problems with that and yeah, I. Mean a would fight back if I had to but. That situation you know didn't come about very much probably you know just. No more than any other normal kid you know might face that sort of thing. But. Yeah. I mean I wasn't really interested in Working on cars or farm or anything like that was more of A. I won't call myself a bookworm because we really didn't have that many books but you know I like to read and watch old movies and drawl and stuff like that and My Dad. Just you know he's a very practical man I mean, even today you know his idea of success is. Owning your own farm, starting your own business or something like that and I know that he probably looks on what I'm doing now is. A pretty useless way to spend your life trying to write books. Would you describe what the town of knock him stiff was like when you were growing up well, when I was growing up there it was. You know relocated for us. Ok we'll knock him stiff. is about thirteen miles west of chillicothe Theo, which is you know southern Ohio. It was its own little place. You know there wasn't much else around there but it was a community There were three small general stores and a bar and a church, and probably four hundred, fifty, five, hundred people now I probably was related to. At least half those people. So did you find this nurturing being in a town where half the people in it were related to you or incredibly claustrophobic? I think when I was a kid when I was a kid I was claustrophobic for me. You know I was one of those kids I was always unsatisfied I always wanted to be. Else and somewhere else. And so from a very early age. You know I was thinking about escaping from the hauler. I just Thought that I'd rather be somewhere else are somewhere else. But where you are as in Chile coffee which is. PHILADELPHIA, which is about thirteen miles away like you got out but you didn't go very far. I, really didn't get out I mean that's the weird contradiction of that whole thing you know i. Wanted to escape and them what I finally got my chance or whatever I. I chose to stay I'm out at knock stiff at least once a week even today Ladder parents go to visit. My parents are still alive. You know I have a brother and two sisters and they all live fairly close to there and So I. Think though as far as escape goes what happened with me was I quit high school when I was seventeen. And I went to work in a meat packing plant much like Weller work, Dan? And then when I was eighteen I moved to Florida you know that was going to be I was going to get away that you know by moving to Florida and I was down are working a job in a nursery and I wasn't making much money or anything only been there a few months my dad called and said. Hey, I can get you a job at the paper mail if you come back up here so. I chose to come back. You know the paper Mills Calling it was union job and great benefits and. And I knew you know for a high school dropout that was probably going to be the best job I. Ever got. You had that job for. How many years did you work at the paper mill? I? was there thirty two years and you didn't start writing till you were around fifty or is that is fifth well I'm fifty six now and I started writing when I was forty five. Okay. So how come it took so long did you know? When you weren't writing did you know that you had that in you? Well. You know I'd always been a big reader as I said and I love books. And I think maybe in the back of my mind, you know always thought writing would be a great way to get by in the world and you know, of course, I was very naive about it. The principal reasons for me you know as far as being a writer were one, you were your own boss. To you could do it anywhere. And three, you made lots of money. Wasn't until actually began writing it. I found out. That was a real true. But I. Think you know Sorta like maybe a fantasy that? It was in the back of my mind for a long time. I had a problem with drinking and for a number of years and you know it was one of those fantasies that when you got half loaded and You started daydreaming or whatever it was. One of those things that you thought about right thought about. But it wasn't really. You know I went to school when I was in my thirties I went to college I went to Ohio University and I ended up with a degree in English and You. Know even while I was there though I wasn't thinking about being a writer I never took any writing workshops or anything like that. But then finally when I was forty five my dad retired from the paper mill. And there was just something about watching him retire and go home. and. You know that was you know pretty much the end of his career and it really. Bothered me and I. Just. decided. I had to try something else you know. To some other way to. Spend the rest of my life. So. When you decided, you wanted to learn how to write what did that mean? Any. Writers or anything in for a while I just sort of scribbled and struggled. And then I'd read an interview with a writer and I can't recall her name now or no it was a lady. But she talked about typing out other people's stories as a means of maybe getting closer to them or just learn how to put a story together. and. So I started doing that. Who did you type out? I typed out a lot of different stories I. I was typing out a story at least once a week and that went on for about a year and a half. So John. cheever hemingway. Flannery. O'Connor Richard. Yates Dennis Johnson the you know the list just goes on and on if it was a story that I really liked and it wasn't. Long I, type it out, and then I carry it around with me for a week and you look at over and you know jot notes on stuff like that, and then I'd throw it away and do another one. Typing a story out, just was a much better way for me to see how you know person puts dial together or you know. Moose from one scene to the next that sort of thing. Was it hard for you to find your subject matter as a writer? Well when I first started. Trying to learn how to write. As. I said like maybe I would copy out John cheever story. So then I would try to write my own story about some East Coast suburbanite having unfair. Something like that or maybe I'd write about a re Rita Andrei debut story, and then I'd write about a Catholic priest. and. So I did that for maybe two years or so and it just wasn't working at all for me. and. Then filing maybe at about two and a half years, I wrote a story that's included in the book. Knock him stiff called back teen. And it's a very short story. and. It's about these two losers sitting in a donut shop. And that was the first thing that I had. Written that I thought wasn't too bad. And so then I increasingly started focusing on you know the people that I knew about instead of nurses, lawyers, that sort of thing that I had absolutely no idea. How to write about There's a passage in your new novel that's about a bus driver and the bus drivers father had gotten a certificate from the railroad for not missing a single day of work in twenty years and bus drivers. Mother always held this up as like what you could do. If you really you know were strive and tried to accomplish something when the bus drivers father died the bus driver hope that that certificate would be buried with his father's. We didn't have to look at it anymore, but instead his mother just like. Put It on the wall, display it in the living room. And then the bus driver thinks it wore on you after a while other people's accomplishments. I love that sentence did you ever feel that way I mean he kochman here seems. So relatively small like a good attendance record and not to knock that. But for that to be like, you know the zenith of somebody's life is. You. but did you feel that way that a war on you? Other People's accomplishments? I don't think that I paid so much attention to other people's. Successes or whatever. But I, know that I was aware you know by the time. I was thirty two or so and I've been working at the mail for about fourteen years. And I knew that all the guys that I had come in with you got hired about the same time as mayor guys even much later than that. You know they own their own home. Maybe. They owned a boat and they had two or three vehicles and they were married and had kids and on and on and on. You know in contrast to them. I've been divorced twice. I'd filed bankruptcy when I got sober I was living in this little very small apartment above this garage. Of. Motel Room and I've been living there for about. Four or five years. I owned a black and white TV that my sister had given me and I had this seventy six chevy that had the whole side of smashed in and that was it. You know for fourteen years of working there. That's what I had. And so you know there was that sense I guess of me just being a failure. Wasn't really that I wasn't jealous of those people or anything like that. I, mean I had enough sense to know that you know where I ended up was my own fault. But there was always that that idea in back of my head that. I could have done more you know I could maybe went to college or something you know. I'm sure you know if I'd wanted to go to school when I was eighteen, my dad would try to help me. and. That's not the route that I chose though how has your life changed? Now as a published writer, you have a collection of short stories. You have a new novel you got a thirty five thousand dollars cash prize, the pen, Robert Bingham Award. So, what's different about your life? well, I have a lot more time to just set on the porch and. Smoke and daydream. Think it's a legitimate. Yeah well, at least that's what I tell my wife. But my life hasn't really changed that much I. Mean I get a lot more emails. Now you know that sort of thing, but you know I still live in the same house I still pretty much. You know my daily routine is. I really can't say that it's changed that much. It's a good life and I'm thrilled that you know I've got a publisher and. You know had at least a little bit of success. You know I know a lot of writers out there a lot of writers out there who are much better than I am. And would. Probably give their left arm. To be setting, you know where I'm setting today. Well Donald Ray, pollock thing you so much for talking with us. Terry I appreciate. It. Made my day. Donald Ray pollock speaking to Terry Gross in twenty eleven. The devil all the time a new movie based on his novel of the same name. Premieres next Wednesday on Net flicks. After a break, we'll hear from mirer skin and Anna. CONCL-. The CO creators and co-stars of the comedy series penned fifteen, which begins a new season next week on Hulu. And film critic. Justin Chang reviews I'm thinking of things the new movie from writer. Director Charlie Kaufman. I'm David Being Cooley and this is fresh air. This message comes from NPR sponsor capital one welcome to banking reimagined capital. One in savings accounts have no fees or minimums and top-rated banking APP lets you manage your money anytime anywhere check on the account balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money on the go. This is banking reimagined. What's in your Wallet Capital One NA member FDIC last year the Hulu streaming service premiered a very unusual, very daring and very funny comedy series. It was called Penn fifteen was set at a middle school in the year two thousand and started the show's creators, Meyer Erskine and Anna Cockle? They placed seventh graders who are navigating everything from romantic crushes and puberty to peer pressure and the. General. Awkwardness of adolescence. A second season of Penn Fifteen begins next Friday on Hulu. What makes the show so distinctive and often? So intentionally uncomfortable is that Erskine and conical are in their early thirties yet play young teen versions of themselves. Opposite Young Actors who are the age of their Middle School Characters It's a tricky allusion to pull off but Penn fifteen does it with a surprising amount of tenderness and intimacy. Many of the stories in the series come from Erskine and cockles real tribulations in middle school. A heads up to parents. This interview includes a couple of brief non-explicit mentions about how they dealt with those kinds of sexual situations when they were in their teens. Maya Skin Anna cockle spoke with fresh air producers Sam brigger last year when Penn fifteen I premiered. They started with a clip from the show. Anna and Meyer or having a sleepover after Anna has just had her first kiss with her first boyfriend Brendan. But it wasn't how she imagined it would be. Maya asks her about it. And then like rare lips close together when you guys are standing close together. Yeah They touched. Remain. Wasn't. It literally wasn't at all. He put his lips like all the way around mine. You know and like. Sucks. It's not funny way, and then why was that Ashley She just sucked? No, and then he put his tongue in my mouth any like. To like a torpedo tat Tung and link drilled, my mouth won't. Do that. Airport Yeah. I. Wish I could do with your tongue. Did you do it backer did with him back late? It was in trouble you know. Crazy. I know. Was Awful. But at least you've had your first kiss you. It was. Really do. Everything is just different. I don't know I just have to break up with them so really. He is not the brandon that brought us snacks at the bowling alley. He's like the Prenton that trump the packer may throw this. So. It's up to you to get the next boyfriend. From the Hula Show Penn Fifteen created and Co starring my guess my skin and Anaconda welcome to fresh air. Thanks thanks so much for having us. You know those early teenagers are such a strange time and you have these bodies that are starting to sprout in adulthood but you have minds that are probably not ready to handle that yet and you having to cope. With these more adult situations and the thing that makes it worse as your emotions are just so intense like everything is just saturated and overwhelmingly like just the way that that teens respond to music like it's so important in it's like their theme music. So everything feels so consequential and and then they're talking they're thinking about romance. So like everything is a powder keg. And there's so many misconceptions to like in real life. Anna. me. I thought kissing was gonna be the ultimate feeling of romance and that's all I wanted like I was not interested in sexuality at the time I just wanted to like hold someone's hand and fall in love and Kiss Zach and Kellyanne saved by the bell. So when the real when the real version happen, which was just this weird tongue yeah. Like just drilling me. I, it was a shattering of expectations, but you're and I think that's true on in a lot of different ways. But you're fronting as though you either enjoy it or you get it or whatever, and there's a lot of sadness and humor I think that comes with that. Yeah. Did you guys feel targets of bullies at that age? I wouldn't necessarily call them outright bullies. I had friends that would. Put me down a lot and I didn't really comprehend what they were doing until years later. But yeah, I wouldn't say necessarily bullies that would. Yeah. I had a weird thing happen where Base, there was kind of a cycle in my school where the older girls would harass the younger girls and that was even more in high school. But in middle school, there is a rumor that went around about me that I masturbated with an ice cube. It was really fun for me that rumor and they came up with a really brilliant nickname called icebox unfortunately like brilliant. And that followed me for you know the next will really tell graduate school. Let's. And with it came. This kind of sexualization of me that I wasn't ready for like I was very much a prude at the tie. You know quote unquote and was in going there and yet there's this like thing there about me out there and I was labeled as a slight essentially I. mean there are posters put up about me that said slide and He got really extreme and And and in other ways like I was simultaneously accepted I, mean I had you know groups of friends and and and had a found my place in high school. But that followed me you were saying that you felt like you were accepted to at the same time and and in my memory I wasn't accepted. But when I talked to people who went to my middle school, they always say you seem so happy like you were friends with everyone and you were doing okay. While I was going through this private misery I guess and I looked in my yearbook recently and I got overflowing messages of love but in each message it was. You're the cutest Asian I've ever met. Oh. My God I, love you so much. You're the cutest. Asian. Maya Screw those other Asians you're the best Asian you know that was the majority of these messages in my yearbook and. I'm sure am I took that in as a kid in in my heart of Oh no one likes me per meal you address that in in one of the episode called. Posh. Has a really funny preface where you guys are doing like a public service announcement at your school and there's like five girls. Some of them are like a scarier popular girls and you're going to be the spice girls but you're like you're now elderly and suffering from osteoporosis. And you drink milk, which makes your bones feel better than you can dance ray. Ray Funny But then. You Know Maya wants to be posh spice and the these three other girls not including as when no you should be scary spice and for people who don't remember the spice girls scary spice is the only black member of that group and they're like you should be scary spice because your Tan. And You look the most liker and my as the characterize like, okay I guess and. Then things start getting really bad like the popular girls like you should bring us the milk because you should be the servant and then they start calling you guido the Gardner, they're sort of. Free, associating like all the racist things that they can think of and. then. You know your character doesn't know what to do because it seems like she's not totally clear what's going on she was like this is uncomfortable but maybe I'll play along because the girls are laughing. So maybe I'm funny. She starts acting like how they she thinks they want her to act in. It's really uncomfortable and that's true. Right. My that came from that's your experience. That did happen to me. A lot and I would play into that role really easily to become gesture and I would make. Characters. Up and imitate my mom with a thick Japanese accent and it would cause kids to laugh and I thought okay, I'm doing good. I'm I'm I'm I'm a funny person because they're laughing at me but really they were laughing at my mom's accent the thick. And I didn't put that together as a kid and it never penetrated me the way it we show it in the show at the time because. You're just trying to survive. So I, think we were trying to show you know a lot in thirty minutes but what is that like when it's kind of hitting the person and and what is it like when you first realized for the first time that your not like your other friends you're not white you don't sound the same. You don't look the same even though this whole time you've held this belief that you are the same person especially as your best friend and so that moment of recognition in the Mirror of Oh. I don't have is like Anna or those girls why don't I? I wish I did. And that hitting harder that that was something that. I don't think I fully explored till we started writing this show. Do you remember the first time when he felt that way? I. Think I remember when? I went over to a friend's house and we were putting makeup on and. When they would put eyeliner on they had you know double eyelids so you could see the skin above the eyeliner, but when I would put the eyeliner on it covered my whole eyelid. And I'll get emotional thinking about it. Too. And and. Not. Having. It looked the same was such a it made me hate myself. I hate in my eyes a hated that I didn't have. A. Thick double eyelids like my friends because that's all I saw around me and I didn't have any ideals of beauties to look up to really when I was a kid growing up of Asian beauties. And now I. Sorry. Yeah, it's not fair. Watching you go through that in the scene and the girl's talking to that way was extremely moving and you know it's it's a bunch of white girls and I'm one of them and on the best friend and I'm not saying everybody stop It it's. It's it's a mirror of that in its emir of now in the sense of you know I've been raised from a small girl in real life in a very liberal progressive. You know went to UNITARIAN church and the way that diversity was dealt with was like. We should all be colorblind were all the same and that's as far as it went and I think that you can see in the episode the negative results of that really of Anna just going we're the say that's just funny and that's just humor and it's something feels off. But like it doesn't, it's not important and the other thing I wanted to say was just reiterating a how important was to vilify those girls because they weren't aware fully of what they were doing that it was somehow ingrained in them. and. I was so grateful that we got to write an ending were Anna Colleges. Yeah. How my feels that I don't think I ever received that in life so to have. Your friends say. You're right I don't know what it's like to be like you right right and I'm sorry. We're listening to the interview fresh air producer Sam brigger recorded last year with Maya Erskine Anna cockle creators and stars of the comedy. Series. Penn Fifteen, which returns next Friday on Hulu. We'll hear more of their interview after a break. This is fresh air. I'm Lisa Hagen and I'm Chris Axel were the hosts of no compromise NPR's new podcast exploring one families mission to reconstruct America using too powerful tools, guns, and facebook new episodes, drop every. Tuesday join us for the no compromise podcast from NPR. Let's get back to the interview fresh air producers. Sam brigger recorded last year with Mike I can an Anaconda the creators stars of the Hulu Comedy Series Penn Fifteen, which returns with new episodes next Friday. In Real, life, Erskine conqueror in their early thirties. But in the show, they play middle school versions of themselves. Could you describe what you guys were like in seventh grade these characters pretty similar to how you were. I was I was the same in different I. think that the version of me and pen fifteen was more me and fourth and fifth grade. I think in real life by seventh grade I learned to hide the things that I realized that made me you know a target. in fourth and fifth grade. You know I would tell people not to cheat. I would tell people not to swear I. Don't know. It's just like generally annoying. But it came from who I really am and always will be, which is you know? There's good and bad to it. You know yeah. Yeah. I think for me I was full of contradictions I was incredibly insecure and then brazenly confident at moments Delusional E so. Let's talk about how you decided to actually play these characters yourselves like why did you think that that would work your women in your thirties and you're acting like thirteen year olds and the rest of the Middle School actors are actually teens how did you think that was gonna fly? I mean, we didn't know it would work necessarily but we knew that if we wanted to explore a lot of the real things that happen to us at that age, we couldn't ethically or legally but thirteen year old actors in those. Sure. and then you know an-and i. are are were I actors? So we always approached. Telling, stories through character and It'd be great to be thirteen. Again, you know go through all of this trauma. But there was a lot of fear and questions of how is this going to actually work with real thirteen year old kids and so we had to film of a half a pilot essentially to see if it would work experiment. We I think it's only worked. You look awkward and look. And you don't look like everyone else. So that's sort of embodies hunting must've felt at the time and it's even funny like Anna like you're you're you like tower over. What did you guys do to your appearance and physically to embody those younger versions? Like what what did you do in terms of makeup and just also how you held your body's? I had braces and it was kind of like invisible line with you know braces put on it. So just slipped in and out, but I did start using wax onset. Because it's hard, you know scratching the. and then I yeah, we had kind of like binding straps on our chests and then and it really my always says and I love this that the genes were always ill-fitting 'cause they were for kids usually from Ebay and then the strap on the chest would like push your stomach and you know to the most pouch cheese sausage way that could go which feels right and then and then yeah for me you know again something that I did when I was thirteen was kind of casually always be blocking my my stomach as though you know just hoping that everybody would just see me as skinny and not not. They wouldn't know that I was trying to not bring attention to my stomach essentially trying to hide it all the time. And I I was just so physically uncomfortable like you're saying because I had to wear a wig every day and I had this retainer put in we put mustache hairs, an eyebrow hairs on on ourselves in addition to the have already. Pre Wax pre. Tweet I try not to shave my face for this preparation for this role. but yeah, with the straps in the jeans, you're just so physically uncomfortable that it makes you. Self conscious and and. Even, though you want to have bigger breasts at that age, you also want to hide whatever is developing because it's not your ideal version of what you want. How much do you feel like either viewers still carrying around the Middle School version of yourself? She's always there i. And she's a big part of WHO I am. and it's I guess about learning to. Take care of her what that means. Now you know and I have tools now to help her out and get through that moment ray I. Think a lot of mind securities came from that time. So anytime, I'm dealing with any of those insecurities or anytime dealing with any conflict with anyone. I. Have to ask. o what is twelve year old? My really want from this moment. What is twelve year? Old Maya really need. Oh, it's love or it's security or knowing she's okay or not. She's smart enough or it's you know. a lot of it's just being able to tell your child self your enough. Yeah which I have to do constantly. Well, Myers can nickel thanks so much for being here today. Thank. You. Thank you so much. My Erskine Anna Nicole the creators and stars of the Hulu Comedy series. Penn. fifteen spoke with fresh air producers Sam brigger last year. Season Two of pin fifteen begins next Friday. After a break film critic Justin Chang Reviews The new movie from writer Director Charlie Kaufman I'm thinking of ending things. This is fresh air. All that data collection they have. The last ten years of your movements has real life consequences that information's going to be misused who decides right and wrong in our digital world that's on the Ted Radio hour from NPR. Hi, it's Terry Gross inviting you to check out our new online archive collecting forty years of fresh air interviews reviews. You can hear my interviews with people like David Bowie or read the Franklin Johnny. Cash John. Tony Morrison searched for names. You're interested in make a playlist for yourself or friends at fresh air archived dot org. That's fresh air archive dot org. Five years after is animated feature a Nama Lisa the filmmaker Charlie Kaufman is having a busy year. In addition to publishing his first novel aunt kind, he's written and directed a new darkly comic thriller called. I'm thinking of ending things. It's now streaming on Netflix. Are Film critic Justin Chang. Has This review? One of the weirdest things about Charlie Kaufman's movies is how? They can make weirdness seem. In his brilliantly deadpan scripts for being Malkovich and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Surfing your subconscious or someone else's feels like the most natural thing in the world. The to movies he's directed significant New York and Anomaly. Sta are just as conceptually out there but they always start off feeling pretty grounded tethered to mundane. Reality. For all their twisted dreamy logic, Kaufman stories never veer too far from depressingly relatable subjects like loneliness failure and mortality. Those interior emotional states are very much at the melancholy. Of I'm thinking of ending things his third film as a director and a movie that you might fall in love with as I did or reject entirely as many already have. It's based on a thriller by the Canadian novelist read, which makes it Kaufman's first adaptation since well adaptation. And like that two thousand, two film, it's a reminder that he's incapable of tackling another writer story in straightforward fashion. It begins with a young couple played by Jessie Buckley and Jesse Plemmons driving through in Oklahoma Blizzard. The boyfriend's name is Jake but after a while you realize you're not sure what the girlfriend's name is it could be Lucy or Louisa. Entirely she's billed as the young woman in the credits. This seems audit I since she is the movie's narrator and appears to dominate the stories perspective. I say appears to because in a Charlie Kaufman movie where false fronts and psychological switcheroo abound you never really know. As they drive through the wind and snow. The young woman carries on a lively conversation with herself. She's the one who's thinking of ending things not in the suicidal sense. But in the we should break up since they're on their way to visit Jake's parents, which suggests that he's more committed to their relationship than she is and whenever Jake opens his mouth, which is pretty often we start to understand why he's a moderately nicer version of the schlumpy socially maladroit artists and intellectuals that Kaufman has always liked putting front and center. Jake in his quiet droning way likes to dominate a conversation, which in this case means making elaborate references to William Wordsworth, Leo Tolstoy and the history of the Broadway musical. Once they arrive at his family's farmhouse, Jake talks less and starts retreating into himself. That's around the time we meet his almost unclassifiable eccentric parents played by David, lous and Tony Collects. Drive. So. Glad to meet we. Talk. Much about you know. Told me much about both of you to. And he gave anyway. The dinner table conversation that follows is one of the most bizarre sequences in a movie that consists almost entirely of bizarre sequences. Inconsistencies keep popping up in the dialogue, most of them having to do with Buckley's character. If her name is a mystery so is her occupation? is she a painter, a waitress or a quantum physicist, but it's not just the storylines that keep shifting every few seconds pay attention to the close. The characters are wearing and the color of their hair. Kaufman delights implanting little visual clues in the frame forcing you to watch as well as listen closely he uses tight shots and frequent close ups that add to the sense of Claustrophobia and he nudges the story into almost but not quite horror territory complete with a weird dog and a creepy basement. In. The stories second-half are couple had back out into the blizzard and continue to talk up a storm of their own. The young woman has her own truckload of cultural references. This time there's a priceless bit in which she starts quoting whole chunks of Pauline Kale's review of the John Cavities Classic, a woman under the influence. Maybe. That's the kind of gag only film critic could love or hate. But the more Kaufman's characters run their mouths the more they're back and forth seems to express something desperately sad about heterosexual relationships specifically about some men's compulsion to control what women think and say. Whether we need another movie that picks the gnawing insecurities of the male ego is a fair question but I'm thinking of ending things is too wildly inventive to be reduced to just another movie. There's so much going on beneath its restless surface and so much of it is connected to the to lead performances. Buckley. So good and dramas like beast and wild rose is astoundingly versatile. Here she keeps adapting to the scripts, embellishments and nailing everyone. And Plemmons often cast for his flat comically Morose Affect Finds Aching Depths and a character you want to dismiss but can't. Their relationship may not be long for this world but as movie couples go, they're awfully hard to get out of your mind. Justin Chang is film critic for the La Times. On Monday show we speak with novelist, playwright and actor. Akar his played disgraced won the Pulitzer Prize for drama in two thousand thirteen. He grew up in the Midwest. The son of Pakistani immigrants his new novel homeland elegies draws on elements of his own life and explores the experience of Muslim. Americans in the post nine eleven world I hope you can join us. For Terry Gross I'm David. Being Cooling.

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A Conversation w/Adam the Agorist!

"Welcomes the propaganda report. We are doing a livestream. Ask adam the goriness for people who are interested in taking their own liberty into their own hands share their experiences see what adam has to say about his experiences how it got started but this is absolutely meant to be a group of community so all your questions. Put him in the chats. I'll put him up if you if you can't seem to chat make sure you're logged into youtube. I'll put those. I'm an up on the screen. And then we'll address them. And but i just was hoping first of all. Thank you so much reading here. What are yourself a little right yourself. What you do maybe how we met and or why rematch and And then we'll get on with the show. Okay yeah thanks for having me. Monica really really appreciate it. My name's adam. I do podcast with my mother-in-law called deborah gets redfield and the premise is that i'm a you know a goriest. Kinda and cap unhinged conspiracy theorist and she is started off the show as a status lifelong a believer in the mainstream media and the democratic party. And i just decided to ruin the golden years of our life by exposing our to the horrible truths of what the world is really like in some conspiracy stuff in liberty and freedom stuff and you know your own really well. She's a nine eleven truth. Now josh no. She admitted on an episode. Two episodes ago that she doesn't believe in the democratic process anymore Yeah it's going good. She takes little steps back every once in a while but she's grown leaps and bounds last. You violently rips the scales from her is yeah i. I made it pretty uncomfortable. Brad uncomfortable journey. But i think that's the The draw to our podcast is it's not just two or three friends. Sit in a room with green about conspiracy is someone Getting exposed to similarly uncomfortable stuff and the main part is that she has an open. Mind about it. I don't think she realizes how strange that is for. Someone like her days to actually be able to sit down and listen and not just make like a loud screeching noise when she hears something that goes against on what. She's always believed so. Yeah that does make her really unusual small minority to be able to do that. And so i my hats off to her. I've met her a couple of times. I really like her and a great sport. Really good sport yes. She loves you so really. Wow shoes really impressed by how much you know. So that's super sweet. I really appreciate that and it's it. I'm pretty red pill so for her for her like me. That's good that's good. That means just hope for her to go all the way but for me like an another to say. Hello brian. how're you doing brad. I'm good how about you guys. Good thanks were just setting the stage. People are gonna start asking questions. But we're going to kind of lay out what we're talking about here and speaking of red pilling i i kind of had a series of red pills libertarian. I gave up on a so. Then my next step was to give up on any hope for the state. So i was in an arca capitalist but actually i i just gave up hope in the state and only then did i discover that. That's okay because society is self ordering and then. I was fine with that. Then i realized that government is theoretically impossible to have your interests aligned because you look at government as they what they sell you is security so what they need you to feel is insecurity so i thought theoretically it is not possible to have a government that actually represents you if it's coercive monopolistic in itself security so theoretically it has to devolve into a pathak and only after that only after had a radio show and everything to talk about that kind of thing that i realized that it had already happened and it was. It was the nine eleven thing although for me it was the boston marathon bombing and i realized. Oh my gosh they literally hurt us so that we feel insecure and continue to give them all our money and power. Like it's ha. It's already happened. By the time. I realized it was theoretically inevitable. It had already happened and then when they completely shut out. Ron paul are kind of only hope for restoring people's interest or belief in the possibility of self limiting government than that. He was totally ignored by the media. And we got trump instead as people just like the. Aren't extras name like that. He was mean to people. They don't like they stopped caring. They stopped for me. So i was interacting with people calling my show they. They stopped defending the constitution and the bill of rights. And i realized once that what i was doing was i was trying to fight the battle. Within the framework of the oppressors. It is the path accuracy. I know it can't work. And yet i still get out there and say vote for ron paul or defend the bill of rights and i realize now especially in the at times that that even it's even the fact that it's a representative mob rule thing is an illusion. There's no power whatsoever. They do not take their power to the people they don't take the limits prescribed by the laws of the constitution. Seriously and if. I want freedom. I'm going to have to take it. I am if. I'm an autonomous independent individual. I am going to have to simply assert that. And that's when i somebody i think it was p q turned me onto konkan so then i start and then the more i learn about him the more. I realize that he saw all that keith. voting was wrong guy who is promoting the state of validating the state which agree with and that you should. You should engage in gray markets. Try not to pay taxes because it's morally wrong to support that and i thought that too. I wondered if being to having a tax revolt was like a moral imperative. But i'm a very busy person. I structured my entire life around this framework. That is now. I see crumbling around me but i want to understand a little better from you. The theory about behind a gore ism and also how you live it and maybe how people like us can start to get our minds and our lives around it. Yeah so. I'd be happy to do that with you guys. I just wanna do a disclaimer at i. You know i still pay taxes. I have a bank account. I buy stuff off amazon. So there's people that are living this way more seriously than me but I think i'm a good kinda entry level in to what you can do outside the confines of the state enforces on us. And you know. I'm kind of doing that here. In my own little my own little corner of the world so Gal where do you want me to start where you're muted monica. How would you define a gore's. I think a gore's them you know as defined by konkan was just like i'll do. I'll say what konkan said. Kind of what i think is that it's starving. The state through operating without paying taxes on stuff. And i think a good a good place to start is just figuring out. You know what you're comfortable doing. And he talked a lot about risk reward so like if you can do something where the penalty is twenty dollars but you can make five thousand dollars doing it you know. That's a pretty good a pretty good payoff right there but say you wanted to like sell. Somebody illegal unregistered guns you know. What's your profit margin on that. A couple hundred bucks or federal prison. So that's not the best but you gotta weigh that out and figure it out for yourself and You know There's tons of stuff. That's just super easy to do. That's considered gray market. That that you'll never get in trouble for that. All comes down to where you live. What your cities like what your neighbors are like you know and what you're comfortable doing so you know like say. He lived in portland oregon. You're allowed to have three chickens in your yard. You have to register them look i. I don't think so but if you have five chickens in your yard you know you're probably going to be okay with that unless you got some really nosy neighbors. So i'm not sure i live. I live right over the border from portland oregon and i had seventeen chickens in my backyard at one point. So on an eighth of an acre so Yeah so i. I have a problem with authority from day one. So if there's something that i can do that. I know is probably illegal but not really that illegal. I'm going to push it as far as well from my understanding. Is that that konkan said that. It doesn't matter how much you do like anything. You should do whatever you can and you can do that. Risk reward thing and that you can count yourself in a glorious. Even if you just like pay your landscaper off the books or something like that was kind of craigslist you know. Yeah and there's lots of ways to do that. Of course the last we have actual physical media medium of exchange the harder. That's gonna be to do. i think. That's maybe the number one reason. I think surveillance for tax reasons surveillance for information reasons and control like these are the reasons they want to get all transactions to be digital. I think by you know what i mean like always thought that i i wanna pay my babysitter off the books. That's not a big deal unless there's no cash anymore and then you have to do it. Digitally and the better they get at processing information. The you'll you'll be able to get away with van boeing. Somebody every every van mo is going to have a category attacked classification bar in the systems. Larder harder come in. That's gets it more. You know it's like i can do a little. A gore is because. I can pay somebody off the books but i gave my babysitter. A bag of lemons is going to be harder. Yeah yeah and then. There's crypto too but we'll see how long that's gonna last four. I mean right. So if that i mean i feel i've always felt that that was a stepping stone towards a cashless society that that was going to be the entree to the digit dollar. I think I don't know i'm not i. Have i have crypto. And you know full disclosure. I have a bunch of it on the books in in celsius account which is like a you know a a bank account for crypto where gains interest. I have other stuff too. I have been narrowed. That's not. I just think that i don't know what i do. Think that the government is gonna start issuing crypto. Their own crypto this tract. I think so. I mean i. These guys on the chat are talking about a video. Somebody sent me. I've got a sous. I rarely like. I have to watch the video mmediately but this morning that video immediately and i didn't have time to evening but it's it's like the imf plans to kind of migrate everybody into the government digital currency and. Yeah so i. I do think that's where they're going. And i actually read in a blog post on the imf website Last year sometime that the idea the intention is to to create a digital currency that has an exchange rate with dollars so the digital dollar is worth a greenback on in january but in december a deji agreeing back will only be able to by ninety cents of a digital dollar subject to inflation dollar inflation right just in order to eventually like your greenbacks will be worth nothing. That's what it's for it's not. It's the exchange rate is. What's important about it okay. That's kind of like what they did that. In india right. They told everybody had to go turn all their cash already. Because i know in sweden. I als- in sweden and what was crazy as i knew. I was friends with germans and swiss. People so i happen to know like they would come over here and they would say man you guys with your credit cards and like you. Just don't use cash like it's so weird. We don't trust credit cards. Are unsafe insecure. So i knew there was a real resistance towards credit cards. And so in my friend i Sensor present check she was just graduating from college. I censor some money. And she said i cannot cash the check and she is like why she says we. They just won't do cash anymore. It's like the craziest thing they. It's a hard time from even to deposit this check. I don't i don't know the details of it but it was a problem and i said how is your father dealing with that like he only would use cash is like he had to just change. He doesn't like it but he had to change. And so i think that they. They've been pushing that down from above for sure i didn't i. Didn't i heard they were doing something like that in india. But i didn't know what and then i think that it was in one of these was it in one of the early covid relief packages to have to actually introduce fad. Kind of did she dollar accounts and it was just like a trial balloon. But it's coming you know. Yeah we'll like we got our last. My wife and i got a twelve hundred dollar stimulus car you know. They said they didn't send the atm card or like a gift card type thing. So that's all i think. They said that. If if i think if you sign up maybe you even get it faster if you like. Give them your bank account number and let them direct passage. I think if you have like your bank account on file with the irs for like your tax return the then it would get put into your account. If you don't the first one of the trump box we gotta check this last one. We did i tell you about the time that was just last year. I didn't realize this but said some point we gave. We wrote a check. Okay this is like the year before we wrote a check to the irs for our taxes at the end of the air and they recorded our cower in formation and yes and the next year when we filed our taxes we wrote them a check and send sent to them and in the meanwhile they took the money directly out of our bank account and then also cash that check so are other check started balancing because they took twice as much and it took us. I think months to get the money back and we need to same thing they took. They took everything how years ago they took all the money. I had out of my bank account. Which wasn't much but they took all of it and it was a mistake. They ended up having to give it back. But i i went to the bank and i was shocked because everything was gone. It's they do that. I'm sure they are really concerned about because did in the meantime. What's without any money to don't care at today. after pay. Did they have to pay interest penalty like we do know penalty. Nothing for them a fine. So yes so. Do you actually transact and bitcoin or do you see transact and in crypto. what crypto. Do you transact him. I have the the two big ones a bitcoin Have a little bit of minero to bitcoin. Is bitcoin sucks. It was designed to be a currency. You know but it's not a candidate in it's it's it's got really high transaction rates and it takes you know hours sometimes to to process so it's a it's a shitty shitty wanted to try to spend Do you own it. You want some bitcoin because it goes up in value so go up in value. Fifty thousand dollars right now. Us hundred bucks march. Why do you think it goes up in value if it was thirty. Eight hundred dollars now. It's fifty five thousand right so it's up fifteen times let's say. Roughly wu is that sustainable. What was the difference. Why is the value perceived what where does the perceived actual quantify value. Come from in your mind like why do you hold it. Hold onto it all anthem. I mean i'm holding on to it for for the future. You know. But i think the in my mind. I'd like to think that it's a hedge against the dollar. So i think that's because it will be used as money or always considered a store of value for me to store value but that's because of acceptance and scarcity correct. It's not where i i know. There's places where where it is a lot more accepted. But still it's like. I just wonder how it's valued i heard john nelson say like he thinks it will stabilize at two hundred thousand aucoin and i was looking at i i did. This analysis are some people as night that if all the money in the world there's eighty trillion dollars right now. That's just one number. They could turn around if that were all converted to gold. Gold would be ten thousand dollars an ounce. If that were all converted to bitcoin. Bitcoin would be four million dollars a coin. I don't think it's going to four million dollars right but sales and thinks it's going to go to two hundred thousand and stabilize but why like how do you. How do you put a target on that. I just don't understand value it at all. i don't either. I'm not like a not a traitor. I can't read the. I wonder if anybody has an answer to that question. I've never heard anybody. I'm sure there's some smart guys out there that have their theories and stuff you have to. But you do transact. In some crypto just fear appear you know not like any businesses or anything like that right and it's but it's not pieces of bitcoin. It's a theory or minero right. Minero good a good one to spend a Really low transaction fee in its fast so And then minero minero is like what people that don't know about bitcoin. The think bitcoin is. That's what minero banaras. Like the right to privacy. One gotta gotta gotta gotta okay so So what is on the grounds practical a gore. Ism for you. So you're or let i wanted to one before not actually. What made you kind of embrace this all you know. I haven't been been for that long. I was a heavy drinker for a long time. And i stopped after a few years. I kind of like started waking up to what was going on around the world and leading up to the two thousand sixteen election. I was like a big bernie guy and i started seeing all that all the shenanigans with like the the super delegates. And all that stuff just waking up to what a load of bullshit was and You know just like a basic bro. Kinda guy one day. I listen to joe rogan which is interesting but I heard dave smith. Do you know he has his show. I okay definitely hurt then. So i heard him on joe rogan and he made more sense than anybody ever listened to politically Always kind of like a liberal guy but like leaned right in panic. Felt like you know. Everybody needs to take personal responsibility for themselves and started. Listen to his podcast Going down the road of of libertarianism. Too just kind of trying to figure it out and learn about anarchy capitalism the mix of the two and i said i'm not a huge reader of like that kind of stuff there's other A real lot. But i'd rather read about like crowd military bases in atlanta's and stuff like that. Yeah no i do too. I find myself reading stuff that satisfies me in those kind of ways but it's just not forwarding my ability to spread the word or anything. It's just like yeah so i. I wasn't anarchists. But i never really felt comfortable myself on on an cap just because i didn't feel like i could like debate. Somebody about it and look good so I'm good at using my hands. I do construction for a living and When i started hearing about cocaine and a gorgeous red new libertarian manifesto. And you know like i just i'd rather instead of like debate. Somebody about the non aggression principle and what it entails if if if a medium can be considered aggression. I'd i'd rather like. I'd rather go in my backyard and build raised beds for garden and eggs and stuff like that. So you know the friends against government guys. I think they are timeline earth. Now caesar are good. I listened to the new episode. Last night's pretty there there was on it. There's a lot of p p pikkety owners is like is i think Dave smith brought me to the to the theories in all this stuff about arco capitalism. pecan yona's gut kinda sour on that like a year or two ago and started talking a lot more So you're talking about a very natural progression so like the smith thing. It's it's like the right libertarianism than peak. Here's a little more intense. I used to help you blow. Listen they're like what's a good libertarian. Podcast for a newbie. And i was like. Oh p q hazel ours. A little scary like really. He's a good guy for someone like me me too. We don't even hear it. But and then the timeline earth guys. It's like all inside jokes like you. Gotta you gotta work your into that. But i heard them say once that the non Nonaggression principles bullshit. And don't really agree with any how you're right because because people that were masks in public deserve to be beaten not long. He scolded at least well. I mean because you have to. You have to keep redefining aggression. Because so what are the people so you have to define aggression as if the government is not obeying the constitution. You need to overthrow it. And then then you're just saying all government is aggression which it is. I totally totally think so. But then than the nap is always pregnant with revolution which is definitely what all chorus of napoli governments are but then does is it really meaningful. I mean i like it too. As far as it goes it's kind of like newtonian physics. It totally works most of the time but with the non aggression principle. Is that the government's exploited. They do these provocations to where they get they. Bird dog stick their face in other people's faces and they poke him and polka polka until the other country punches first and then they say well they hit us first so we got to go to war with them when the plan was to go to war with them all along. Yeah that's the old antifa trick is are you. You have the right. Mike turned on. It's a little hard to understand what you're saying is can you hear me. I can hear it but it's like choppy. It's all right that's fine. I just didn't. I was just thinking if you could double So so okay. I wanted to okay. So that's how you kind of moved into that direction ideologically but you taking action. Like what would your i kind of. How would you define or when you first thing. He did that he thought. This is a gore ism and action or was it only after the fact like okay family lance apron. Cashed in it on the landscaper. So i guess i moved. I moved to. I moved into my house in the backyard was an overgrown mess and i just you know i started chopping down gigantic thirty foot tall laurel trees in my backyard. I didn't ask if it was okay at built a roof over my deck. That's not right. that's not right. i guess When i did that kind of stuff. I wasn't really thinking about about it. As a revolutionary act or as a result it was just something needed to be done. That i didn't think i needed to disclose to the government but I think i really started paying attention to it when we started producing Food in the backyard and You know last summer we. I finally got the backyard. Good enough spot and built a. We had an amazing guard. We gotta figure out how to stagger it so that we have enough so we can have food for the whole year because we had like all the food produced at once and we didn't like you know take the proper precautions to have food for a year from what we were on the summer but We had some pretty Three norma salads a day just because we had so much and yeah and then just getting getting chickens and harvest in their eggs selam overflow for cash. And then i think the the most recent thing that i did that when i really paid attention to was i went out and i got ten meat chickens which is like. I don't think in any way legal to do in my backyard two weekends ago butchered And is that right in the backyard processing natural. Is that for you to do it. The first one was weird. And it's a little bit scary. How easy it was by the tens. How did it feel like you might cut your fingers off. Was it at all intimidating mcconnell. I'm pretty handy so pretty handy. Okay about ravitz. Are you ready to kill ravitz. I want to. I don't know if my backyard will sustain it. I don't want. I don't dis talk about it. They'll be definitely at a to dispatch a rabbit than a chicken for me. But i do. I can do it if i have the the proper era area. And like if you can mix if you can mix rabbits with your chickens like you can have rabbit cages above the dirt. Inner chicken coop. Like because chickens don't he did a Really adamant cool. Somebody lives near me but Yeah so like. I watched all his joel salatin videos where he mixes like. He has rabbits above the third the chicken coop than the rabbits p down and then the chickens like mix it up in the something to do with the chemicals in the urine and You know it makes it makes the dirt like way way better and then you can move that dirt into your garden and do all that you know. It's just a big circle chickens. Don't pee now. It's in their poop. They have like a wetter solar got interesting. Yeah we ferment. Feed so they take more. It's more solid so so so you basically you can use. The pope is not like too acidic or anything it can go right into the soil that you use to grow stop. Chicken manure is like really really good for growing stuff so we went out and got a bunch of wood. Chips filled up the chicken coop before it started raining. Hard here in the fall and Hopefully by springtime will be able to go back there with shovels and a wheelbarrow dig up dirt that spend they've been pooping in ratch- net for for you know six months and we'll turn that into the dirt that will planner garden within spring. What are you put in your garden last year. We had like twelve different kinds of grains. We had cucumbers. we had cabbage We had peas With this year. We're going to do some blue implant blueberry bushes. Whatever good go ahead. What do you think of if you of the food that you is there any food. You absolutely need to have that. You feel you cannot. How ashley do you have. A half an acre an acre ten acres normal acre that's like a sinewy i mean it's a it's a pretty good sized backyard four. I came from the bay area. It'd be really awesome. If i lived in oakland san francisco but here it's it's it's one of the bigger ones on the block but it's a normal normal backyard. You live close to other people as well. Yeah i'm surrounded. See you really have to choose where where you live. Hand on my town's called milwaukee oregon. It's right across the border from portland. It's just kind of like an extension of southeast portland but it's it's Is changing a little bit. I've been here for a couple years But it's you know it's traditionally just like a working class Working class neighborhood or suburb. Urban suburban rural rural suburb. But it's a whole it's in a different county than portland. So that makes a big differences will pass rats reasons and stuff like that People here pretty much. I think Mind their own business. Neighbors have chickens are other neighbors on the other side. Don't care and then you know we've got fences homeowners association stuff so you guys don't have any obstacles that no way in granted number would never do that. How 'bout the local gun laws oregon. If you wanna like i don't have i'm a member of the nra. I have to belong to a gun club that requires it. I'm not excited about it. Have owners of america. they don't accept that. No you have to be an nra. How that is that is really interesting. Yeah but they do. They're like for every state every year. Now organs usually like b. It's it's better than you know. I came from california where you're not allowed to have anything up here. There's there's no waiting period. There's it's not constitutional carry but it's super easy to get a concealed carry license. Keep down place right now. If you go. I mean people. Are everybody's doing it. So if you go now it takes a. It takes a couple of months to get an point. You have to take like a four hour classes this saturday. It's super easy. Shouldn't have to do it but you do have to make an appointment with the sheriff's department and you can do it in whatever county you want. It doesn't have to be the county that you live in i in place. They'll clackamas county. It's like easier. do the multnomah county. Which is where portland is. But you have to wait like three or four months now. They're so backed up to get an appointment. Actually just go in and get the card in portland itself and all this stuff was happening. I got the feeling that people were not empowered to defend their own property. It was that i get that. Wrong i just. I felt like in portland that if things couldn't have gotten that wild of people were were felt like they needed to defend the four corners of their business or their home. Or is it a. Is that why all this stuff was happening on public property. I think i think I don't think there's really strong castle laws here. I think you'd probably right after life pretty fucked up. If you if you had to tell you i mean i mean when people like if that happened. A lot of the stuff that is allowed to go on important kind of came out to the suburbs. Here it'd be a whole different outcome You know like there's a lot of athlete. I think a lot of gun ownership out here by where i live You know a lot of diesel trucks and But yeah i think the people that like that had their houses were like confronted at their houses and stuff are kind of like the people that would also condone that behavior. So you know he kinda get what you re pushing. So that's route respect. That's what i was thinking but to get back to what you produce yourself. If seve guy. I got turned onto this ancestral. Eating check noriega goddess from thai chats. I bet that's something you like to go through their me time. I love him so she are. It's basically like pasture raise animals lot of meats vegetables spices. Coconut milk healthy fats. All that stuff. There's like knows piano or kids. Night quite paleo. She says because for her. It's basically if you were to make a macro nutrient chart. It would be fifty car for me. You know my weight. Fifty carves a day fifty grams of protein day. Only fifty grams of protein Rest is the healthy fat. So that might be kato and then she also emphasizes kind of micronutrients that you get from the the foods that you choose wisely which she really loves the organ meats and very richly colored vegetables. That's it's actually pretty simple. And because now i don't eat cereal grains at all. I don't eat processed food at all. I don't eat dairy at all. I almost at all but a lot of nuts. But i'm just saying she that that eliminates almost all of the processed foods that i used to buy at the store and i'm just wondering if with just the little that you could do with your piece of land or slightly larger maybe that amount for however many people what do what do you feel like you have to buy from store nutritionally. Will we bought. We bought half a cow from a local rancher. So that's not really the store. But i got to at i. That's definitely a different. It's not the store for sure not. It's not your backyard but depends on your backyard. You know we choose dairy in half an hour for the coffee and stuff like that Coffee coffee on you know. Were definitely not fully self sufficient. We could we could be but you could be. That's what we're trying to get. What i have in the garage and what i can grow in my yard. I could be an end between chickens. I eight a ton of eggs like eggs. You know the more a like you learn about this new so what she does she. Has you make bone broth but you put chickens feet in it and it. It's like jellison by it is so good for your joints like he used to take osteo flights anymore at all like i'd read that about that. That's what you give a dog with arthritis. Well it was good for my dog and no problems. Since i should look into how to do that because i got a ziplock bag in the freezer full twenty chicken feet so i love it so i go to whole foods. can get free really. Kids are just like what's the hell. Is that unlike chicks. Are we supposed to eat that mike. No i'm gonna boil it until liquid you you've done. Oh yeah dude all the fancy how. What's the process all you do. Is you take chicken. Choices has an organic whenever take your chicken carcass. Put it in a big pot with a dozen chickens feet and then Like to lemons cut in half and just some herbs and spices that you want a little bit of. She likes some kind of natural salts. I don't know and then you boil it for six hours on really really low and then you strain it and i stupidly. Peel the fat off the top. She would not approve that she loves chicken. Fat stupidly. Did that. And then i just put it into extra extra large mason jars. Not all the way filled up one. I put in the freezer and the other put in the fridge. And i eat it for breakfast. Who's drinker. I drink it and she also has like this primal chili recipe. That's like oh whereas fed beef and the like a couple of cans of organic tomatoes basically and you put some of that brought then you cook it up and then so i have this big thing of chilly so literally in the morning i have a like a cup and a half of the broth and a scoop of the chilly in it and i cut up some cal. It's my kids really can't even have breakfast with me anymore. Because it's crazy for them like it tasted a little earthy efforts. I'm minutes elliott. Honestly by now. I love it. Because i just feel like popeye i i ain't i'm just like i'm going to whatever like go exercise for an hour early. That's awesome. Yeah but it's also part of it. Is that her. Diet is completely anti inflammatory. I guess so like that. We're making things worse. Aren't there at all and then so who knows like when you do something all at once. You can't be one hundred percent. Sure but i love that and like chicken jello. It is grossly like you've seen in your life but you know it's like the junky falls in love with the needle like i'm into it mike golic and how we're gonna how solid Tried it. They would not like it it really. I think it's because the lemons like you boil lemons for six hours and got like a tangy aftertaste. But when you put it in the microwave it's liquid again so it's not a look weird or anything if i turn it into chicken noodle soup. They would like and they wouldn't know that it used to be jello. That's what i should do. Yeah yeah i gotta do that. I'll take a picture of the recipe. i'll send it will violate her sense of personal property. That's still awesome. That you got I sued farmer onto. He's really good. I heard him on higher side chats. Also and then i heard you guys get him yeah. I recommended him to me. I rip off stuff. I think he's totally slammed. Probably right now. I reached out to him but didn't hear back. So you see. It took me a long time here. And i had to kind of actually what i did. Was greg carlin. Thc had put out the word that he was willing to be a guest so whenever people will alert me at. So i got greg on the show. And then i have to admit i sent. That show too is h farmer. And that's why your answer me show you think he is right on. That's a great idea. Do you think he is right about about the solar minimum stuff because he was saying. It's hard to judge when it's happening. It's really going to happen. And i just and he also thinks that part of what the powers that be are doing is a reflection of their knowledge of that. Which i almost feel like. It's attributing them. Some kind of sense of wanting to preserve the earth or at least are functioning in it. And i just don't even think that there that that like rational or orderly like good in their okay motives. So what's he's saying that the grand solar minimum is lowering is gonna lower temperatures in the upcoming years correct. Yeah there's a grant like every hundred years forever like it goes up and down. Based on solar activity totally overwhelmed anything we can do on earth okay and so. They expect food production on earth to take a nosedive at some point very varied what the timeframe is but they are waiting for that and that they feel like converting everybody to vegetables in bugs. That's why we're gonna be eating cockroaches and fake me and stuff like that Lab grown me and all that stuff. I mean bill gates has been promoting yet. Seem like they've been pushing it pretty hard. I don't know what the deal is with it. with granular minimum but notice. I was just wondering since you do. Try to work outside. And you you know i don't know how many years have you been doing like. When was your first garden. Twenty years ago or summer last summer. All right so you. Don't want to move to oregon in the summer of eighteen. Before that i lived in studios one bedrooms in oakland and san francisco. So key you. Oh that's funny. Yeah 'cause i always like cop-out sama city girl but his hope is is what you're saying. Monica i hear what you say. All i'm from brooklyn. I can't do it. I don't buy it. You can totally do it. All right i right. I guess that's done that zone backyard in la iran. You know but it is a house the backyard and it does have a little plot that my husband likes to grow peppers so that you can't get them in california which nobody else will eat. So i think i might not see. That's the thing i wanted to ask you. Is your wife fully on board with this like. If do you have to earn your. Yeah how did you sir. How jimmy door. Yeah she was. She's a political. You know she went to. She's a deal younger than me. Eight years younger. I'm forty one. So she Hitches kind of from a different generation. I'm more as kinda like the last kids that grew up in the eighties. You know where. I was just kinda like let to go. Do be as i was i used to. I used to stick my hand in the mail slot and unlock the door. That's how i got in cliche But yeah so she you know she went to. She went to one of the claremont colleges down by you and it was just A you know typical liberal arts school a political liberal. You know and I took her to see jimmy lar at a local theater up here and she left just so confused. She's like that guy so that guy is a liberal but he hates barack obama and was just like couldn't believe it. That moment i started i went to A freedom cells meet up in the park. Last summer i was the first one. I went to those really weird in way out of my comfort zone. And she tagged along with me just because she was confused and she's made some really good girlfriends in that whole group and shows gets mad at me. Because when i've been on a few different podcasts talking about chickens and she's for the eggs chickens she's done way over fifty percent of the stuff you know i i built the run and ended all the all the heavy lifting but she has done all the research went and got the got the little baby chicks She home you know she. She got work workload. Cut way down and so she. She is a wealth of knowledge on beker chickens. Now so she's the one figured out ferment food and she's always coming up like going on forums and figuring out the next cool thing to do some work some don't so what does she go to dino. I think just like weird backyard. Backyard chicken one. Let me go yellow quick. We have a lot of good comments noodle salsa and some of the stuff was right there you know in real time but i think we can go back. I just. I wanted to finish this. School saw backyard chickens dot com. Oh great so funny. So i was noticing that like for me. My first migrate is high. Who you got there. That's my wife. Emily and but she's got a chicken tender but she doesn't have a chicken she's a chicken tender zoom stuff. The starter disoriented. Because when i saw her walking behind you my instinct was to go who's mind to virtual world so she's got a non that is a pet not a chisel in her hands. that's little. Tweety the chihuahua. Nice can he be like you know like the herding dog like get the get the chickens where he wants to be no sweeney. She goes he goes out in the backyard. Sometimes we let him free rein around but he's gotten sometimes they they like attack him gang up on him so poor. He fights back but goodness gracious. Well i'll tell you one thing that what you're saying about emily's experience i my first idea of like what can i do in the gray market is for me. I'm like just do more stuff for yourself like this idea of women working in an having somebody else take care of. Their kids is the ultimate in you. Kind of anti gore is in that it not only makes every transaction. The woman's work not like women's work. I mean human being who is working all of a sudden plugs into the system and bring somebody. Home plugged into the system to do something she could have done herself. And also it undermines being able to pass your cultural values on the next generation so now with this covert thing every this has been a year. out here in la where the kids have not gone to. School may hasn't hasn't gone to work and my babysitter Come over anymore and we can't afford now because my husband's industry was at just wiped out. Yeah we're to keep going and then just the answer is so i have noticed like with all of us. I'm like hey man all now. All my kids do their own laundry. They do dishes like people cook dinner once a week. And i mean even my son with down syndrome although it is a terrifying. Make his own breakfast on just like. Don't put a fork in the microwave ever so there's little little challenges there but i just try to do more stuff myself. Like stop outsourcing and stop thinking that specialization of labor is the only way or that if you're highly educated. You shouldn't do things with your hand. I mean i noticed as soon as i got married that that oh my gosh. I'm keeping the. I was even working but like after business. I'm keeping the cave clean. And that guy's dragon home samantha slope. I don't care how you want your shit but that's what we're doing and there's no shame in that and that's i kozinski and i was just like. Oh my gosh. That is my destiny all these women into thinking that that was a shameful thing to do you know really got him into the work force and double the tax base you know and the and the workforce is so solis most of the time i mean you got your your. Your job gets distilled down to where it had. It is perforce meaningless. And there's so much more meaning cooking dinner. And why not. It's creative and you're educating your kids the whole time. There's nothing more edifying yourself. Then to express articulate have to formulate ideas about what you've known but anyway we're trying to start a family right now and Yeah A we talked about it. You know. i really like free to stay home and you know she didn't wanna do that. I more we talk about it. It's probably going to happen. It's like hard and terrifying to think about because we have like one and a half incomes right now on. it's still like a struggle but right you know we can make it work in the people deal with way less than what we have with way more kids. So did you want her to stay home to home. School is that the goal and she wasn't on board with that. When i first started talking about it and now she's all four. So are you going to help a lot. I have three day weekends every week. So i'd be willing to do you know everything during that time. It's i work around the house mostly during the weeks but weekends anyway but we have. We like. I said we go to do. Freedom sells We've got a lot of people in the area that are just like us who have little kids and they've actually started little school so it's possible. Yeah what's a freedom. Sell exactly freedom cells dot. Org is a website started by john bush in derrick rose and it It's kinda like we can go on there. It's kinda like a clunky version of facebook. It's like a social media type deal but you like enter. You know where you are your name use real names or anything like that and the people said registered also around in your area pop up and then you know you. It's up to you from there to organize and You know i. I heard john bush on on freeman beyond the wall. Last summer out walking the dogs he talked about it. I went home. I registered for it in. Dm from this girl later. You know right. Afterwards they know where to meet up in the park really weird and it wasn't weird when i got there but it was just like weird to do that on my wife went with me. I was just like really nice thirty year. Old girl brand new baby at the parks a blanket and she'd she's like a natural her name's mckenzie she's like a natural organizer and she's kinda. She came from like canada. Hippyish anarchy like festival world. You know which is way different than me. I'm like a punk rocker. When i was growing up so but A lot of the same values so she'd kind of like created this little meet up out of like freedom cells actual meet up and the next door up. So are you familiar with the next door that to most people most people found it from next door kind of faded away. So yeah i was wondering i was gonna tell us a lot of a lot of just like kind of whining. Middle-age ladies who had excellent complaining about wearing masks about like anarchy and stuff. They can stop coming to the meeting in my town. Nextdoor app is complaining about people not wearing masks it goes both ways anyway. Anything you can complain about is on next door. So would this be a place for you. one thing. I was thinking about like a good way to do. A zoom is not just trading your produce but trading some labor is. Is the freedom sell kind of way for you to connect with people who might want to engage in that kind of thing or is it really just to have buddies who are like minded on both in. It's like it's big like the like in atlanta because of pecan janas. It's big georgia. It's big in texas and people have like what they do. Is they have like workdays where like everybody comes to your house and bangs out a whole bunch of stuff in a day doesn't charge for you go over to their house when turn you know. I can barn raising yup and yeah like the whole idea. It comes from it comes from konkan. Have you ever heard of the book called alongside night there's guide janai. Showman was his name and he was like caulkins protege and he wrote this this like adventure. gore ism a adventure book called alongside night and it's about like like tyrannical government taking over A gore society like emerging from it but Should i forgot. I lost my train of thought. What was i saying. Big in texas and you. They have barn raisings. Yeah so but in that book talk about like in like an inner cadre which is like eight people and then like an outer qadri you have like eight groups of eight people like from around the area and You know we had We had our first annual sasquatch freedom festival. Which is this straight here. Just some like it's an it's like you know we have a telegram chat groups and we like a whole like area from the top california all the way up to washington which is the big cascadia bioregional freedom sell and some guy offered his land up up up. Fugit it sound and we went up there for a weekend in november loan just hung out around campus where people just dishing and doing their thing and was awesome. No work they were there. Were no work just there. You know people were. it's fun it was. It was the first one and being outside in november in the pacific. Northwest isn't the best. But we're gonna do another one in. I think may which is when it's like really really nice up here and Yeah so it's big guys should check it out. I doubt it's very big where you are. Monica bailey's place yes Check it out looking to maybe reach out a little bit. Like i go to the desert near joshua tree sometimes so maybe out there. I don't now i definitely. I'm going to check it out though because this place is maddening. Took it out brought annoyance. Big in your. Yeah that's gonna be great. But i want i would like keep picking your brain but what if you can hang on a little bit longer. I think it would be nice to put up. I don't wanna interrupt the flow by putting up. The comments of some of these are gonna go backwards. I there's a lot of good comments. So i'm going through some while i'm looking. We do need to get monica outcome of california in. Oh yeah do you watch. Tv models are really like against the whole. I mean i think that that that that in itself would be a great blow for freedom. I i've heard before that the freedom cell site is clunky. So you're gonna wanna just use it for me upset safia you just like i haven't i haven't checked in on their in months. I don't even remember. My mind is just an entree was just like it. Got in there and then like you know you like friend people and stuff but it's not like it's not like a way to communicate with people but you can go on there. I think like look anywhere in the world where there's people worldwide like say. You're going on a trip or something. You could find people that way. Maybe so is this true. Do you believe that. It says outside of portland and eugene. Oregon is one of the rent estates in the us. Lots of free thinkers stay out of portland of. Don't watch tv. does that sound right to you outta. Yeah that's why it was like it was pretty frustrating. I don't like it when people inflate portland oregon. It's not the same. You know You know it's like a lot of probably status republicans well but i think there's a ton of people that just want to be left alone and you know it sucks because this it is so beautiful here. I love it like kilbirnie to yell at for the big. Sandy is like i mean you ever go to san luis obispo bakers five bit. Yeah i spent. I used to be a wildland firefighter for northern california more than the real Northern northern california really really. Well and i went. I actually went to college in at the top of california so we have to talk about fires in some other. Show me about fires on a. I have a. I don't know about direct energy weapons. But now i don't think that i just think it's imposed droughts and a they liked the place on fire for varies. Okay laura actually headed up for meet up with sam tripoli who i think is responsible for the three of us knowing each other she says. How does she find more like minded future tunnel. People like that's my thing. We're all going to be living in the tunnels but i really feel like we should be the outlander because we're going to need some land. She's in the freedom sell but with bill. Which isn't smyrna. So maybe he needs to laura. We will hook you up with pete q. And that'll be a more robust freedom. Sounds be part of. I think right in that atlanta area and like anything that you can do what people are operating outside of of society. Think like a good place for recruitment would be Like bitcoin meetups or are aren't yard sales anything like that. You don't need to recruit people. It should happen pretty organically but if you get the word out people show up were like there's like forty people that go to our meet ups now. It started with six people sitting on a blanket apart. That is it's cool to see like these people common like haven't been out of the house or hung out with They've been out of the house but they haven't a lot of them are from portland proper you know. And that's why the meet up is these people haven't hung out with people in a social setting for like a year and you'd be so surprised how many Just pissed off like soccer moms. They're all right now. How great boy. I thought that's gonna experience here. So i just lead the way and just like this all bullshit. Oh god or you. He's one of them that you know it's like a like okay. I'm not maybe. I'm one of them. But they're the pod people stella who is in australia. She plugs Seven in the morning firm. Maybe ain't now. Do you ever use diatomaceous earth. Either internally or in the garden still a. We use tomatoes earth's in the chicken coop to keep on the humidity down interesting kind of soaks up with so. I never used in the garden though status stella should bring up the marrow inside the bone so one of the breakfast. This chicks breakfasts are crazy. One of her breakfast is bones. Beef bones cow bones cut lengthwise cut in half and you cook them in the oven and the marrow. I quit out. Yes i accidentally totally undercooked it. So i literally ate raw. It was so freaking delicious. Lead item on on the appetizer menu at like high end restaurants in san francisco. Yes and if you're buying a couch you get the bones and can you can you personally with your equipment. Saw a bone and half. Because i can't figure it out i have a saul so i don't know i haven't tried yet. We had We ate the beef heart last weekend amid low ta yet they call that. I had a i in peru and it's one of the species on her books i started. I've found like some peruvian Recipe did it in like didn't cut it rights or just like oh maybe i'll just dice it up. And then we had tortillas in that way it was super Hearts should help it was on valentine's day might have been. I didn't even think about that. So taking shit is excellent for gardens. Apparently is punishment. Because i've been putting putting my fish water am i bunny poop in the dirt that we're going to start a garden in and i'm a little worried that goods. Good sound sound raza's Putting coffee grounds. And he's like. I don't think you're just supposed to throw your shit in there. It's like i think you are marce was earlier shit in their talk. Shit right known hot dog okay. Why because it has meat in it goes on breakdown for some reason. Probably because there's no like vegetables or anything okay so still thinks we should get food dehydrated. Does that sound right to you. Gather all send you can save the products of your labor. Yeah I make Take all the london broil got. I made beef jerky and yeah from the freedom self group. I decided that like on the off weeks. When we don't ever meet ups. I would start Kind of like an underground gora farmers market. So i had people over the house and People brought stuff. Yes so this was at your house you had so and you don't have a lot of land. It's not like you could set up. Ten on is like rainy out during the winter here inside so we had like thirty people at the last one inside the house. I think you've got a little too big. We found another spot for the next one. So what did they do. They brought sacks of things they made. Yup i told people you know. Bring bring stuff that you want. don't make garage sale. Bring something that you made in. A one guy brought books which was really awesome. Because he's like a deep conspiracy theorist like oh that was like the coolest part for me but Yeah people brought herbs and sweetgrass than you know. People have kids made cookies and muffins just to have something to brain one like. Make a potholder stuff they make like that. Or is it the other one lady. This one remake like the cases for cell that don't like trans like the silver faces. You know fair day case. So yeah material handy. Sorry what things can you do with the food dehydrated rookie. What else you can make like fruit. Leathers oh yeah yeah you can. All that's all we've done. We've tried out pairs and my friend moves to port. Liz in puerto rico. Six months a year for tax reasons and really. Yeah when he left he let me borrow his food. Dehydration his vacuum sealer. So yeah we're getting gave me his his jerky recipe. But yeah i don't know what else can puerto rican. Maybe i should maybe some value in that inherent value in the taxes. I'm totally doing that. Probably nice there too right. But they always think i'm self aiding puerto rican because i don't speak spanish because i'm not puerto rican. I just the name. Like monica perez. I think all okay kind of annoying. What is a hoop house. A hoop houses like a greenhouse that you make out of either p build like this wood-frame than put like pvc. Pipe silver in a for us cattle panels. That's what i did for mine. A wind tunnel a high tunnel. Have you ever seen that. Yeah so like. I have one in the backyard. And i just didn't i wanted to grow turn it into a greenhouse and i didn't get covered in time for the winter so we didn't get to get seed starts on there but hopefully next year. We'll get it going okay. All right so no more bunny shit. Got it pat. A love pat. Save their stores here. Weren't selling selling liber. So they were saying. Oh because so. I read this book. Halftime liver liver liver live forever. You'll never get sick so it start started by labor like because of covid we'd have liver anymore. Mike okay so your animals are born without livers. Like why have you. You have jigoro meet by the liver. So i started getting creative and buying like liver words than pat gray and that kind of thing and at at no. Gee i've got a bag full of livers in hard some chicken livers freeze. Its breaking my family out like my light Sweetbreads they call him. Yeah yeah pack. I like it. I'm i think my mom didn't make eat that stuff. When i was little so i think that's why i'm like opened eating it now. Extreme major no. Because i didn't get grossed out by on a little. My father was a meat cutter so head only like the stuff that people wouldn't eat. We eat kind of like the scraps and he would bring home. Scrapple tongue like a whole beef tongue and it would be like a time. I've had. I've had language tacos. I've never had any other form than that. But i remember seeing it at the butcher shop when i was little and it has taste buds on. That's not good with mustard. But i find that stuff like i'll just cook up some liver for breakfast mike yes. They are literally won't eat anything. But like jesus. There's like. I think this is a challenge in a lot of people who want to get into this have to overcome is the way that some of the stuff looks and the things that you have to do with with the chickens and rabbits that we've just never done before we didn't learn grow. Yeah it's it's definitely totally different I don't know it's cool. That like those. Those cornish cross meet burns like they don't have personalities like the egbert still like they're not just they just want to eat and drink water they drink like ten of them like five gallons of water a day Like a whole bucket. But they definitely like if i praise them at my backyard. They're definitely a better life than they would. Like the fosters farms move tastes. It's different it's different taste. It's like like you said it's like earthier like the breast is like dark meat. It's pretty goal. Like i like darker meat anyway. So they convince the white meat chicken dark meat is better for you and it tastes better. Put her so. I was reading about swine flu. Like just the whole s and all the pandemic and all the crap that they've found on the swine flu thing and it came from chickens and it's all about not eating meat anymore and it went through like how chickens are raised and that like festering wounds and burns on the skin and all that stuff from the lights to close central. How they live in their own feces. They can't move and that's why they get. Sick is not some virus that it's just so i have no question about bacteria parasites funguses tapeworms like you see them. You see how they behave. They hit certain organs. They behave in the same way. They get treated in the same way. This whole nebulous virus thing where you're gonna virus and hurts lungs sometimes Had makes you your stomach. Can class year can not happen at all. You need a vaccine four it. I'm beginning the beginning. I'm ending with just giving up on all of that. It's all it seems like complete nonsense to me but the swine flu thing when i was investigating it not only reinforced that. It unfolded for me. How not just unsanitary but inhumane it is and that's another one of this nora chicks things. She's just like i'm not. It's not healthy to not eat me. But it is not moral to do what we do with these animals being mass produced like that and she's completely against corn finished beef by the way. Yeah yeah. I'm sure your guys grass right. Yeah it's one of the it's those big. It's like highland beep so it's those big harry cows and i like golden retrievers. He gets to meet your cab before they slaughtering you can we. Didn't we didn't do it. But i can. Not like they are john asks. Are there liver supplements. They have they are and she recommends specifically so if you want to tweet at me your email me or whatever i can tell you what she recommends specifically as they bul powder the liver and put it in capsules indicated that way she will also suggests that you can liquefy in the racing on a moment liquefy in like a blender and pour it in beef stew or in that chile. I'm not ready. So what are you. So you're chickens. Do they eat all sorts of stuff. The fermented feed And then they eat whatever we still back there. Although although fida with we keep our eggshells Begum crush them. Up in females. Back to really. Yeah they mail worms. They love meal worms so I'm noticing that they took a little bit of time off during the couple took some time off during during the real cold part of last month and weren't laying a lotta. Now they're back. I think I don't know if there's any scientific evidence for but i've seen that when i feed them a lot of meal worms from food production sire so for me. Do you use a lot of or any chemicals in treating your vegetables or your animals. I to keep pests away or anything like that. Can you really do this. Organically via you came on a small scale. I think it's pretty easy. But a do get some bug kill and stuff like that. We got a bunch of lady bugs. We bought ladybugs and put them in the beds and they take care of a lot of aphids but a lot of times just the little. The little aphids will get like the bottom leaves on the on the leonard stuff like that. But yeah you can you can do it. I mean i can understand how unlike a really big level would be really hard to do but well it would have to be self sustaining like my dumb fish tank which took me forever to figure out but i i've got it figured out now and if i put a few more planted i won't even really need to enter the water so much but you get things that eat the other things and i don't know about at scale but i watched some of these documentaries and stuff where they say that you that there is isn't there isn't ecology to it and i guess maybe that's when you have to take the next sleep would be a kind of permaculture thing where you you have. It's basically i mean hard work to get you there. But then it becomes a kind of garden of eden thing and your labor is way way less than maybe you can spend a little more time nurturing and individual thing or bringing up something that keeps the other thing down at. It can get more complex effects. If it's enduring. I would think yeah. We have some friends that like the actually live in portland that turned their whole backyard into like a huge hermit culture paradise that actually is functioning more so yes we do next. Step p q turned us onto bellamy fitzpatrick who has a place in upstate. New york where. He's building a little garden of eden permaculture and i went and visited it and it really yes it was so small but beautiful and what they were doing was so understandable. The food was like really tasty now. It was intense like you said like. I didn't realize how much i was allergic to until i started eating. All these crazy things but it was totally. You know. it feels like you have to work your way up but it's not unmanageable. There's only two of them. They trade labor so sela wonders if you're chickens pack their own eggs if you feed them shells. that's what happened to her is. Yeah we We haven't had any issue with that. I don't know how we crush them up. Like pretty pretty small and begum. I've heard that if you feed it to him raw than they get like the taste for so sanjay. We haven't had any problems with it quite yet. How often do you harvest. The eggs. Does an egg get harvested as soon as it's laid. Yeah i go out so they stay in the closed up in coop at night time We don't really have any predators around like a scary pit bull so there's no raccoons in the backyard but We put them away at night and then we got when we go out in the morning. Check the box. There's usually a couple in the morning Maybe check it again mid day if we don't have anything going on or just check it again when we put him to bed so we've been getting five to seven day right now. Wow and. I've heard that if you eat too many eggs you can start. -veloping an allergy to it. But i doubt from your new. Yeah joe suggests that you not give things going to eat a name. I think he's right. Right learns good names. Companion planting is very good for keeping things down. Sylla said the hardest thing she ever did was eat. Her cow after raising it from a baby by the meat was incredible. I bet that would really hurt. But you know why maybe we need to get in touch with who we really are. Yes yes uh is definitely i wanna do. I can't do it here. We're trying to get out of town eventually. You know sometimes sooner rather than later but I wanna do a couple pigs and watch. Unlike i watch all these like dad videos on youtube. That's my whole youtube. Feed is like dad videos. Lozada homestead people and like how to build like an off grid structure Gun reviews stuff like that. But like a Your ultimate goal is to get outta town but saying don't you all these people that had like an acre and a half and they raise to to a whole bunch of chickens like thirty chickens. Three birds a couple times a year and to pigs on that small. I wanna get like five acres but Yeah they did to pigs and yeah it tough to do. 'cause i was wondering i want to go. We have a lister right now. Shannon who bought some land in montana. He's a micro-climate in euclid montana which is seven miles south of the canadian border but it almost never snows whatever but i talked to bill neighbors feed and seed is on our sponsors like do not go to montana. It is too cold. No no no no. No yeah you know. It's pretty cold here for me. It gets done and it doesn't really get that cold here in the wintertime. It just we had set a big ice storm. Everything's melting right now but I've never been in like subzero. Temperatures out in oregon. I'd love to get out of town In all those. I think it's going to be harder for me to operate in this state. Because you know portland dictates what happens to the rest of the people in the state and we just take they. Just take their orders from seattle in san francisco so All the californians are moving idaho so that might not work i want. I want us there to it's there also but Yeah like stuff. There is getting expensive. I'm really interested in intentional. Communities and my friend lives in puerto. Rico is checking out abandoned coffee farms that were damaged in the last hurricane. Down there right now. Maybe i need to connect with that person. I'll get you the info. Maybe i'll get cheated on the on the telegram chat and they're also looking at I this is all pretty far off for me. But it's definitely something that's like giving me hope in there. Like checking out A lot of acreage in central florida. To you know i. I've never lived in the south. I was born in georgia but never lived there I would love to be able to stay on this part of the world. It's my favorite but You know i'm open anything any place. Where i'm allowed to operate freely more freely than i am here and Just conversation between the santa's in biden last week was. I really enjoyed reading. That transcript so. I didn't think it to santa's i i thought he was. You didn't hear that when he told by the go fuck himself. No by think. That guy is is a lot of messed up. Things a lot of siam happened in florida so open. Yeah yeah right right gotcha. Yeah for you didn't see it. Oh biden was saying that he is going to close down the border of florida and not let people travel to or from warranty and the whole state as on the phone with ouchi with him. It's crazy if you read the transcripts as a loan level mobster like shaking somebody down see and she's like come on man. You know you need the you know you need the vaccine and if you don't if you don't restrict travel you're not gonna get what you need and then santa's tells him that if he does that he'll deploy the the florida state national guard. Why did we get to see the transcript of that conversation. I don't know and then And then like he calls him. Joe and biden goes you call me either. President mr president or president biden any goes on. Like how about you. Go fuck yourself a little. It sounds on but it definitely makes you. Joe biden president. Whatever that seems surprising so maybe they are constructing his image. This is going to be the kind of undertone. Criticism is not only crazies egomaniac. Let's see i'm gonna have to see that. I will definitely find that so. Have one more question to ask you adam. Where do you get the energy. Did you say you're just clean as a whistle. You don't do any anything that can slow you down. Drink coffee of coffee on spotted into that a lot of coffee a pot of day just like a normal amount the mornings and then like on my days off. I drink coffee. But yeah i don't i don't never hungover anything like that so i don't have a ton of friends I'm in relatively good. Physical condition do brazilian jujitsu You do brazilian jujitsu. I feel like if you're running around all the time taking care of your physical property chickens your vegetation. How do you put the that would exhaust me for a whole day. Just build up to it. You just have that kind of energy yard done it for a long time so just kind of built in and yeah i mean it's if i rented my house i wouldn't want to make it nicer and just live coming from california. I was resigned. To the fact that i was never gonna own a house and get an opportunity to come here and actually do it Right now at a way older age than most people get to buy their first house. Just because of where i landed. Just take a lot of pride net. Nah i really enjoy doing yard work and being in the backyard and it's really nice out there so well. I think you are going to be a really great dad. And i hope that much hope that it's going to be a home school situation. It gives me hope for the future. We are the future. The tunnel people engine of the tunnel tunnels it's not tunnels i've loved the handle but you can't grow chickens in a tunnel you can go chickens but you're not gonna be able to grow the other side but Yeah i just wanted to thank You guys because all the promotion you do for like this and coming on the show a couple of times you'll along with a couple of other people are the Biggest supporters of our entry into this world. So thank you so much. Well you're great. We love you. And i absolutely love the idea behind your show. Then why don't you tell people because we're going to put this into the feet of our audio what you tell people what it is and again. I know you started an app where to find you and all that yeah so it's Delegates red pilled. It's available on most podcast players. You can go on there. And find monica and brad on. They're telling me about stacey. Abrams and then you can also find monica solo on. They're talking about boston bombing. And y'all got a bunch of great guests we got some good ones that are just between and yet tune in and just see like somebody changing in real time in a really uncomfortable way right in front of your eyes. It's pretty entertaining. Some shows are aren't the best summer really good so open minded to it's great. Yeah but yeah. If you wanna go check it out please do in leave us ratings. Subscribe and do all that kind of stuff because it helps us out and we're gonna keep ranking them out. You know kind of worn out on the coded and geopolitical Stuff so. I'm kinda not really translates transitioning the whole show. But i wanna do like a lot ancient mysteries. Wanna talk about atlantis. Tartari and all that stuff. Because i feel way more spiritually fulfilled when it when i get done with those shows rather than talking about like elite politicians hazards. I have two more things if before you move on. From deep dive. I can crack the code on m h. Three seventy for her okay and seventy. It was the plane that fell out of the sky over indonesia. Or whatever is you're young. And then i know where it is and i don't know if you know who miriam carey is but she was the schick who has gone down in dc and so anyway. I'm not inviting myself. I did show but before you away to you. That's all i got and i feel like it's ancient history now anyway all that stuff not. We're going to keep going to keep revisiting everything and i wanna do. If we're doing. Like i wanna do a much alike liberty liberty minded stuff too because one one hour long episode with legal man. Got her to Rescind her endorsement of of the whole american political systems among longer believes in democracy. So it's pretty awesome that sounds like a black l. Yeah will see. That was super fantastic. Thanks everybody for coming. This really awesome. People set their calendar to contribute to the show. I really appreciate that. We're hoping to do a little more livestream thing because it's really fun to exchange ideas and figure out how we can make us feel like a part of a community and it's so valuable this idea of the freedom sell even if the site is clunky if it just takes one way to get one moment to get something going. I'm all for it so i'm going to visit it before. The sun is down notes Freedom sells dot or freedom cells dot. Org do thank you so much. Adam thanks everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We'll thanks guys.

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SUSCast - #034 Alm do SUS

SUSCAST

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SUSCast - #034 Alm do SUS

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Episode 129 - In The Trunk

Congratulations with Chris D'Elia

1:01:32 hr | 2 years ago

Episode 129 - In The Trunk

"This episode of congratulations is brought to you by the cash APP crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy the episode one twenty nine of congratulations podcast. It's the tick Tock King Krista Leah <hes> and it's episode one twenty nine and we love that man. Let's Detroit got blessed Detroit man you guys I show selling out already. I think it might be sold out at this point so the Detroit babies as you do them or what what dude but you guys really came through really appreciate it really appreciate you know and let's see where I'm going to be. I'm going to be in San Jose and I'm going to be in Las Vegas and Santa Barbara Barbara Riverside San Diego foxwoods Bethlehem Rochester New York near Buffalo and then I'm shooting my special after new buffalo and I'm doing in Minneapolis Minnesota so Tampa Florida as well another the show went on sale because the first one sold out you guys are the best <hes> even though some you guys probably killed people or something like that anyway <hes> it's <hes> it's it's it's Monday and and I was in Atlantic City. I did some shows in Atlantic city and I did some shows in Tarrytown tarrytown. Is this place in New York. I would tell people in the city. They'd be like where your performance at Tarrytown. They said what's that that's crazy. Crazy to have a place that the whole fucking place doesn't know where it is. I'm talking about <hes> so you know get on the level meant New York understand what tarrytown is because it's in your fucking Tuck in state so you know if somebody says California and they're like Hey San Jose. I know where the fuck that is man. Although there probably are places but I even know where redding is men in in California. Could you imagine how smart I am leaving nowhere readiness so go unto yourself punk yourself yet dude who knows what this episode will be called. Who knows what's going on? I keep I got this big news coming out today and I keep waiting for it to come out so I can announce it on the podcast but it's not out yet so I can't say it but promised some big news and they told me that it was going to be dropped. They have to drop it. I is the thing that I can't say but it's very cool and there's also my brother started a podcast Matalin. Go check that out and just came out today day and I was in Atlantic City Guide New Jersey I'm from New Jersey and I love New Jersey and it's so New Jersey Dude through some guys out in the crowd of course because so New Jersey I had <hes> but yeah I've been on this tick tock kick man Dude Tick Tock. I keep talking about it and it's a very cringe APP and I I realized that I only do apps like social. Social Media Apps like I realized because like with like vine and like even even instagram is a little different but like I'm always I always feel like I'm doing an impression of someone doing the actual shit on the APP like I'm never actually never feel like I'm actually doing but I suppose I am. You know it's like if you're doing it ironically. You're still doing it and that is kind of. It's like in a way I'm kind of the hipster. That's got the fucking ironic mustache the curls up. It's like you're still a dick for having it. Even though it's a joke you still look like that and I'm angry for it. Are you wearing suspenders. Ironically you still look like a fucking barber in the eighteen twenties and dime angry ad you know so yeah you could wear wire rim glasses and too much gel and have it curl over your fucking forehead. You can do that in Williamsburg but I'm still angry just as I would be if you meant it <hes> anyway I was in <hes> yes but I do so I did a man and I did man it makes me laugh to tick Tock. Make me laugh dude. I saw guy doing a tick tock. The other day and there was a apart workers. Were the guy on the song run and the guy goes like this rar like fucking trying to be sexy dude anytime a guy tries to be sexy. You're not sexy. You can't be sexy except by mistake as a guy a a girl can fucking do the thing where they they get out of a pool and whip their hair around and they know they're doing it because her tits are all out and shit and guys are like Thir- you can mean to be sexist girl for a guy. If you mean to be sexy you make in pussies dry. It's all good but he's turned into the Sarah Harra Dude if you're a fucking dude and you're thinking I'm Goddamn sexy making twats dry so yeah. It's not cool not cool to be sexist dude. It could be a dude like this is sexy as you can get as due to know at put on a leather jacket and be like wow this other jackets doc. It's dope. That's as sexy as you can. Get it. If you're like these dudes you know these fucking dudes are chicks pro if you're a dude and you're trying to be sexy. Guess what you get your Chick K.. Cool moving on all good. Hey Dude. It's all it's all good conversations over and it's fine that your chick but your check I saw in New York for a night or two. I can't remember how long who knows all the days run together. Everything's the same and it's all good but <hes> and I walked in a Nike in saw dude. It's like hilarious how much they just jump on board with whoever the M._v._p.'s that Greek dude what's his name the M._v._p.. Was this year he's Greek is shit and my and I walked into the Soho Ny Nike Nike and it was like unbelievable dude. There were serving coffee in Greek cups. Everything was blue and white <HES> JAANUS <HES> well obviously go up a second read the name and Tito Cocoa so that's all good so that's his last name Johnny Skin Tick Konkan Konkan Campbell so he was a thing and dude. Everything was Greek. Everything was fucking Greek. It was so crazy easy. They give you philosophy as you left. Is that even Greek. I don't know Nope who cares doesn't matter dub map. I don't like philophical. That's it. That's as far as that conversation goes. Don't like philophical and I don't like you know what I don't like euros. Hey all that stuff belongs not in that thing beef belongs on its own. If you got like a chunk of beef don't put it in a sandwich. We try to do stop colon. Hey Hey oh dude. I would eat a hero except except I'm trying to shed. Sometimes I feel like when you eat a euro you eat the euro and you break it up in your mouth and you chew it and then it goes down in your stomach and then all forms again it's like the fucking t to t two thousand or whatever it is the good blasted lasted open but then when it melts and gets in your stomach basically that's the thing and then it just congeals then it becomes a euro again and then it stops up your colon cool euros dude also gyro. My opener loves heroes but he farts on the ground so it's all good how fucking every time he sees a year is a two zero duty such a Khuda man you say every time we go to Philadelphia. I gotta get the philly cheese steak man. It doesn't matter where we got a fucking car. Wash cheesecake see I'm gonNA eat one but heroes meet or sandwich wrap bursts developed in Bursa. Isn't that part of your back whatever did it doesn't you know long so yeah but Nike was so Greek themed was unbelievable. It was like they're just oh we we fucking love it. We love we just jump on their heritage. They're just like we love it. We love it. We're Greek dude. Did you know that we have Greek employees. That guy is we were talking about. WHO's like because he's like six ten and he's really good and then my my buddy was like yeah he could be the next Lebron and I was like yeah but Lebron's a superstar because Lebron handsome you know my buddy was Lebron's not handsome and I was like he's not he was like I don't know I can't tell how about guys who pretend that they can't tell if other guy's handsome or not because they think it's I think it's gay and they're so so homophobic? It's not it's not a it's not you're not you can tell if a guy's handsome. Just because he doesn't you don't have to be gay you know but the one thing I do WanNa talk about actually on the flight out to got so delayed but on the flight out to where was I going do this is unbelievable. Just wait for this. I gotta go to architects chain because his where it was here dude. They got so we got. We were so delayed to into. We're flying into New York from Albuquerque. I was just me <hes> and we were so delayed and they they this flight was crazy right. It was from Minneapolis I think to to new J._F._K.. And the you decide this because the stewardess or I don't know if they clump stewards now because times are changing but she was so she sounded so drunk it was unbelievable. Dude okay scissors combined is going to have your your your your shares up in an apprentice in it's all good like that's what she was saying upright -sition so this is the shit that she was saying here you decide if she's drunk or not. Dude okay you decide on Ashara argue until the two is holy place around six heaven just a message necessary breathe normally enough hours flowing even if in fact this phone Curiel Alabama candidate the overhead on the Momma Choice Circuit on basically make sure to get a suggestion oxygen dude so drunk punk and then she would walk down and I'd be like trying to smell this girl. I'm like I'll call her. She didn't look drunk dude. She's like fifty dude. I couldn't believe it I save this shit and there's another one hold on okay okay and then I and then I thought maybe some weird shit was going on and this dude dude. I was sitting at a bar before because the flight was delayed so much and I fucking salmon because you know I'm healthy babies. You know how I do it and this dude was sitting next to me and he was so loud and he was drunk and he was just he would he would he would be like Oh because you know Tom Brady Yada Yada so loud and then he would laugh and he'd go oh aw aw and I was like I was. I wanted to fuck knock this guy out right but that was like maybe he's got a problem. It's all good you know he's got a drinking problem and as you know I feel for that right so we were so late and then we exited pitted the gate and we were about to take off and then the pilot goes like this <hes> so we got to go back to the gate does something with customer service and I just go. I rolled my eyes so hard I thought they fell on the floor okay and then I was like what's going on and then I look behind and there's this guy standing up and it's that guy and he's like well. I don't know where my bag is and the stewardess okay well. We'll find it and he was like I don't know which one I don't know where it is he. He couldn't remember where he put his fucking bag. Dude up on the top of the thing he's he found one he was like I have a computer bag back there somewhere cable. We'll find we've gotta get it. We gotta get him off the plane. He was so drunk they got him off the plane that kicked him off the plane. 'cause he was drunk. Uh pilot goes like this. Sometimes people can take advantage of the bars in airports and unfortunately deaf aid is not like it when people have had a come on extra drinks and it's not safe for passengers or the crew so let's get the best we can get there quickly and safety. Thank you for your patience. The kicked him off so we went back to the gate and then we started to leave again and this fucking tell me she's not drunk now. She's talking like this. Check out. The DAK is and for those continuing ah Mac even for you. Oh what is she saying Bro. I was like this. I was on the plane like this and notice paying tell you this guy is drunk as fuck dude check hiccup Max even trust for for what and it has been traveling to New York your allies. It's been trapped for you. Your luggage has been trapped for you okay. There's there's there's this one dude. Would you just sit. That's when she almost fucking threw up in her mouth. I see a customer. That's what she said. Hold on just listen mirror maybe to help you want peace like I dude kickoff to Israel. Remember this morning. How okay here's the thing if she's not drunk then? She's got a speech impediment. I feel for you but why are you the one that's talking to. Everybody on the plane Dude I. I'm so sick of this shit man. We were also in trying to fly home and the guy that they do. The airports are fucking insane dude. I swear to God if I saw a I mean no bullshit. If I saw a wild boar working the desk at like one of the airline I would be like that's weird but you know yeah. I guess it makes sense is why everything's so fucked up like breath. It's UN- it's insane dude I we were we were waiting and the guy who was talking to the people first of all everyone's in line. The flights delayed. We're at the airport okay and everyone's in line and the guy who is on the over the loudspeaker is like <hes> he's so Indian and that's fine to be Indian but this guy was killing it with the Indian shit he was just like lovely daughter. Lula ruler of Loreto and everyone and I caught that he was like flights delayed and we will be boarding soon and people are just lined up. Dude sit the fuck down dude what are you. We're all getting on the plane. All of us are getting on the plane also the people who aren't even group. Hey and guess who group guess WHO's in Group A daddy and he's sitting all the way fucking down man. His knees are bent dude. You keep you fucking legs straight. You better be laying the fuck down because that's crazy to be lined up when the flights delayed and you've got this guy who's telling us the flights delayed. We're all going to the same place I don't get it. I don't get it so so yeah we couldn't understand this guy because he was just they always give it to the fuck and guy who can't talk in English which is and I'm not. I'm not saying like a learn to fucking language like I'm not I love that America's got all the different types of people in all the different cultures and all the different accents. It's awesome you might as well to speak in your language though if you're going to do that I don't I can't understand I sound so fucking eighty years old right now but yeah we got an answer to the mass inositol also don't if the person is drunk. Oxygen is the number one word that you're fucking can tell that's what the thing should be. If you're a cop okay okay. Have you been drinking. No say the word Oxygen Oxygen Cool. You're coming with me. If you have one drink all of a sudden oxygen oxygen customer service customer service say Oxygen Oxygen Region. You're coming with me. Come on in the drunk tank. Do Are you drunk. No Sir you could be so good at hiding it. Oh Sir I'm completely not drunk. Are you drunk. No not at all. How many drinks have you had? I had one drink at dinner and that's it a really yes and your dreams your drinks well sir say oxygen oxygen or I call. You're coming with me <hes> yeah. This guy got kicked off a imagine getting kicked he was so not embarrassed to. I guess it was because you were drunk. It was killer. This guy was like Oh kick me off cool. He was making a scene. He was like cool. I'll just get off the plane like this guy. I would have been like yeah. Listen so I had too much to drink. Give me some fucking fucking bread gave me some bread and a muzzle. I'll be fine time my hands up. I'm getting fucking J._F._k.. I suggest dude oxygen you. Now wow guess what guys we fixed the microphone stand and it is sinking ever so so slightly ever so ever so slowly at sinking now that means my anger is just growing at a very slow snail's pace and it's all good but my anger is growing because the microphone can't I can't stay up and it's the only thing on but it's ever so ever since and it's okay but I am getting angry is a cape. I'm getting angry and beginning. Yes okay barely <hes> you know. Can I sink to yes. Yes I can also lower body. Yes doesn't mean Matt. Yes does make the podcast better sometimes complain or not but I am I going to yes of course the only two things you need when you're gonNA catch a microphone and oxygen and I have oxygen airports are so fucked and they don't even give the Shipman travel so much dude back to fucking Albuquerque fucking Albuquerque. I think on Wednesday or some Shit Dude I was in Albuquerque for two days and I will I was there I flew in. I had a whole day there. I did my my shit. The meetings that I had to do and then I was done in like two or three and the rest of the day I was like all right cool. I worked out a little bit. Keep my back all fucking mountainous. You know what I mean. Did some fucking chin-ups just to make sure the lattes kept like a turtle shell. I did some fucking chest exercise to make sure that fucking you know what I mean I keep my seek cup and did shoulders exercise of course the documentary fucking I wanNA keep the documentarian happy because they're probably doing a documentary on my shoulders or some shit show <hes> I was in Albuquerque and let me tell you something man it was for one day. I was leaving the next day and bully. Is it boring. It's hot as fuck. I mean eleven o'clock. I landed the day before and I was like hey guys. Is there a place to eat or something and they're like no now. They didn't even like think you're like. There's Burger King and I was like hey look at me. Do I look like I wanNA fuck in. Do I look like an eat fast food right now at eleven look at me and they were like yeah. No I mean you do keep your bags like a turtle a turtle Shell and I saw documentary crew like trying to be sneaky. Obviously trying to shoot your shoulders and get it. You should be wearing a bra so I don't know I'm just I so I went to a fucking place in downtown Albuquerque and I walked in Oh by the way I was like. Is there any I was like oh I found a place on Yelp. I was like it's open and I went to the lobby the people at the lobby and I was like hey guys so I found a place that's open. I was like I just you know I guess because I don't know the area. Is this area safe to go here and they're like Oh yeah. It's fine of course it's totally safe and I was like okay. Cool Got Uber and Uber driver. No Bullshit Bristolian Yup is a cool no way he's like. Why are you on this place? Gosh the only place opening eat and he was like Oh yeah there. was someone shot seven people next door a week ago. Hey that's safe. What's dangerous? What was there a fucking Zombie? There haven't been Zombie. Attacks hasn't been Zombie attack. They are so yeah dude. Seven people got shot. That's the definition of danger and I went there and I was like really and he goes. I gaze a yeah. He's like I know because I'm a crime scene investigator gator Uber Drivers set at all. I'm checked out. Hey when what a guy driving you in your ruber says is just so you know just so you know just so you know it could be the truest shit it could be truer than the sky is blue or I live in a house okay when an uber driver says whether it's true or not because you know in the daytime. I'm a crime scene investigator. You're just lying because I imagine fucking what's his name David Caruso in that show. Whatever the fuck is where he puts his C._S._I.? where he puts his glasses on and then walks away like the illest motherfucker alive do David Caruso wow you know something's definitely true about Nick Crusoe? He never got his ass kicked. You can tell that about David Caruso so much just by the way he acts because if you've got your fucking ass handed to you you would never act that guy act so bad ass. He acts like nobody ever fucking ever said no or fuck me up on the shit that guy and I'm not saying this because of any like ill opinion. I have him or anything but that guy technically needs his ass beat because you can't act like fat but he acts like that and he just he you know I mean some of the Shit. Just look at some of this shit but imagine this imagine you're a crime scene investigator and then Uber by Night C._S._i.. David Caruso one-liners every Gopher Santa comes up obviously because they're ridiculous. Horatio canes fact that his name is Horatio Caine you know sunglasses asses moments just listened to drive by Miami Style and then and then he fucking puts his glasses on every time dude. It's so hilarious question becomes Alex. This was the mob center draws to the crime scene was sent to destroy always the beginning of the show dude and then it goes stories. Get up and run away. You do got something to hide not even listen to worry about it Mr Coleman because I never got his ass kicked. Never fucking does so met you know what he does. He wow for sure David Caruso thinks he's blackbelt karate because he practice all himself and never got instructed on karate at all he just did it worked on in his room and he's like. I'm a buyer end. Tells me I'm up back though and it's because he thinks that he he fucking did karate every day. He's I've worked on it. I'm a black belt to he says fuck. Maybe took off for maybe he got taken for a ride. How so bad you know the right what the writers wrote every script with only assured on no pants on and their dicks out on the chair and they never cleaned the chair and other people use the chair and they didn't give a fuck? She came down to drink. He doesn't get some sun but it looks like something called her made it up made it up that one made it up himself. He tells them to leave it blank. He tells the writers to leave it. Blank leave it blank and then they go okay. I'll come up with it on the day and then he himself goes and walks out the room before this accident ever had accident. He's not an accident. All Oh unleash it dude you know there's somebody on the crew that wants to fuck in lay him out and he's just every time they shoot those Goddamn motherfucker one day. I'M GONNA kick. It's fucking as we here we go on. We gotTA move. Quick time is rising and we sinking crime scene. It's not looking too good ratio on the contrary. There's a chance this girl is alive and we find her. That's not even the right of like let's try and do it so we can't do it and he still did it. I won a Bagel at the fucking in a restaurant. So what will you be having his wife was like I'll just have a Cobb salad. And what would you like. I would like to breakfast breakfast sandwich. No matter how you cut it sucks and kill it looks Miami you as a new breed of going to get you the truth not even one. Dude what does this song. It's the WHO right what what is it dude. Wow I mean that's so funny dude. I love that Shit. I I WANNA fuck in. I gotTa play that fuck that Dude. I'm Horatio Canes Saints. I don't give a fuck. The who what song do you know who it is. Who you think it's that one right but that's not what's called is it is it no it's got to be one of these? Hold on that one all right guys. You know we get it. They did that song on. Who are you okay? I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm not gonNA baby him was that that's what it's called won't get is this area yeah. That's it wow when do they start screaming Freeman though after this like after whenever ever yes it's time to hit back. Yeah we knew that I saw a mile away trying to get our attention but he just got stabbed. Stab Alex. Let just notice down to one what is he all ass or his ass. Hauling US and a dead body can have that effect on a few more words or a verdict as in frank guilty as charged jury's out wow wow it was a good one. That was my favorite one wow souvenirs. They found more than that. Oh wow very big very course they'll. We've got is that phone status dead or dying. Oh Wow that that one was because he was on a move that one was bad. It's not going to get away with murder. Get Away with murder dude. My Uber driver doesn't do that. You know imagine you got into the other people in the car and I was like what the fuck why who are these people and he says you seem to have ordered an Uber Pool. aww Shit Dude Man. I'm Dyin Yeah what the fuck where you going will it seemed somebody has changed your location Asian. Wow Did oh my God. 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Is it Amazon br Prime Day by the way today people are going nuts over that shit people are worried pillar always worried how the only thing that would make debt fucking horatio caine thing better is if he was like so British then he would be wowed then he would really need his ass kicked I was I was thinking about the other day actually about how long it's been since I've been in London I I was in London when I was nineteen and of course it was raining the whole time but my brother and I got up early so jazzed that we were in dude. The London really has to figure out Europe or not Europe like I guess Great Britain needs is to figure out it's fucking breakfast situation men when I was in London my brother I got up early 'cause you were like jetlag. Let's go explore one. Let's get some breakfast dude and we went and first of all every place I would look like because that's not a breakfast place but that's not breakfast place we finally settled on one that you order at the counter and look like a fucking breakfast place so we looked up and we're trying to get breakfast and they were like well. What do you have for breakfast and they just pointed and the only thing that they were serving irving? I swear to God my brother and I we ate for real. This was the breakfast beans and tomato. Hey people in London. That's not breakfast. That's not even lunch or dinner. That's. It's like the shit that you put on stuff to eat full breakfast full English Great Britain and Ireland English breakfast in the full English breakfast often consists of Bacon Fried Egg Sausage Mushrooms Baked bean toast with the Fox with beans Bro. That seems like a weird breakfast thing you have the for lunch or dinner because you'll be farnell day per also going excuse me about that and a great big London breakfast Sioe sorry you know how it is here. It's eleven thirty and I just digested Mark Baines and sausage carry on and walks away. How excuse me just state you guessed it Baynes Tomato? Excuse me whereas the bathroom author room it doesn't matter at this point. I Shit my pants. Excuse me we really got to figure out this breakfast. Situation also just so you know fake into us is pretty much just not cooked all right just off the side of a pig and put it in math. Excuse me Baynes and the raw sort of a pig carry on just a tomato. Excuse me do you know which way the Botham never mind. I Shit my pants carry on worst worst. You know in Drake does that sign it starts with worst. That's what he's talking about. Somebody said hey before you start recording. What's the worst fucking <hes> what do you think English breakfast and he was worse and then they started the song that's what happened to go drake? We think of the breakfast all right goddamn music videos. Hey Drake. Was We think in London breakfast so not worth it for the joke. Jesus Christ took so long you know and I give a fuck this how we doing a graduate Saderat right which isn't GonNa Breakfast in London worst. That's it. Do you remember this song. They're only made fun of this. Dude Holy Fuck Yeah Okay. Hey Doug Afo nigger nigger nigger nigger house nigger feel nickel still niggers coal video. Oh whoever somebody commented whoever animated this is Nice with it yeah I love I still love my favorite. One is when excuse me miss. I can't believe I've never talked about this I have I. I Have Jay z where he just says he's he. Just all of a sudden says just so you know I'm not gay my favorite J._C.. Line period. It's so funny to this in the second or third picnics talking about his I can I can do. It's no way what the fuck you can't see me. Paul say Chris rap the rap piss on the franchise like this aw how many would I think are so dope in the song comes on you know singing but getting body language happy or logo. Mommy's like body paints diamond necklace beverly excuse yourself. You'll very sick. Don't give me with more spirits. WanNa pull me at the like you can lose crack public industry noble the test for no reason in public industry number two was the way people in the studio went when he was doing that they were just like this and then they went like this past plans for the future the news the kid they just looked at each other and they just kept going there. Okay forget it who cares what happened to Camilion millionare's Bro. That guy ripped dude camilion air okay. I'm like a big Bun B fan and shit like that. I love rappers from the south. I love what's his name slim thug but chameleon air that guy when he came out on the fucking scene I was like that's a wrap dude. My favorite rapper is southern and then he just like quit and bought an APP or some shit. He's a tech guy now. Broke commit first of all his name name is chameleon air. That's hilarious dude. That song in the trunk was the fucking illest rap song in a long time in the trunk CA millionaire dude. It's so funny nine point seven banks wishes still wrapped some body stated Stopping Bang Bang the game like everyone in gene the trunk do like it's the four tops is in the trunk dude for guys in suits in yea dude. I love this song man. He says something about me. He'd have to pick me up. Fruit and birth meet only better the juggle the fan man perpetrate nasty me just blew the committee big losing myself midnight even that bad how we doing ticket from me reprise repack keep on talking and talking so defensive that line I loved that term UH Speaker's. Can you hear him now. No Good Dude Eh defensive. That's like a five year old dude. I love CA- millionaire. He's so fuck make another song Bro. He doesn't give a shit. I think he's pretty I texted Bombie. I'm I'm buddies with from Bombay. We text each other and shit as a as a gay doesn't really rap anymore now. It's like man and that's pretty much it so it's all good. Do you know which way never mind carry on pollen me I tomorrow and some beans and the side of a pig. I should make that back man. I'm just I don't know should we do some midst. Can connections are what allow commissioners real name is Hakeem Serreqi. Wow how how old is he thirty ninth my age pro wow. I realized my buddy always talking about them but it's like fifty three. It's not Bryan callen but he was like when he was like hey man. He's like I look good for my age. Let people fifty three. They look fucking terrible and I was like you look fifty three like in my head. I was like no you don't look fifty three straight up and then I always felt that way about myself like I don't look thirty nine but I fucking Oh. That's just something people do in their brains to make it okay. I'm like fucking for Sherlock thirty nine and that's it and that's fine and I'm going to just accept that dude because when I see other thirty nine year olds I think I don't look at that but I do. I'M A fucking thirty nine at I look that way. You look your age whether you think it or not you know I mean unless you're like Justin Timberlake but even I saw a picture of Justin timberlake designating he looked oldest fuck so even just I'm like falls falls victim to it and I'm not even trying to be a piece of Shit Justin Timberlake. I think you're really crazy. Talented didn't mean this but it's like you know. Let's do we have misconceptions or no we. Some are let's see if the news was announced so I fucking announce. It probably not yellows fine. What what what are the Miss Connection where they at Detroit Nice where minute where my show is going to be hoops <hes> my show is going to be live here? I mean so ridiculous first of all the first thing here we go that says fucking you helped carry you Mike Kayak first of all. I didn't really think about this because I guess there are lakes all over the place <hes> hold on. I know it's not okay is the tweet it no. Did they tweety. I'm looking at Hollywood reporter here. No no no they say the thing about that they said the thing about that now stub nope best video games canton and say okay you helped carry my Kayak. You saw armie having a hard time carrying my kayak down. The rollers. Don't know what that is and graciously ran up to help me. You were wearing a black one piece with the cutest little behind sexist I know I seemed preoccupied and didn't thank you properly. Please accept my apologies analogies and know that I would love opportunity to thank you with a smile. You're a shorter blonde very pretty and a heart of gold. I'm sure I mean selecting yourself getting carried away with no idea you were sitting with your mother sister that trying to be nice about the mother saying she looked young slim slim chance to see this. Thank you again. Do not solicit services offers I mean do we don't have to describe the girl that much dude. She like how many girls health is a guy with a fucking Kayak in Detroit. You know like there's fucking seventeen. Women just looking at this just like fuck man. I I don't know I wonder if anyone got matched off this show because they don't watch the they don't listen to the what do you call it miss connections but our show is like wait that was me. I was carrying a guy you think eminem wrote that one here we go miss miss you Southfield. I miss you Lisa. You're you are Detroit Fan. You know who I am. I mean and then there's that there's a guy who's not specific enough Lisa. I miss you. You are Detroit Fan. You know who I am that SA- creepy and heart beginning of a horror movie and it's all good do not contact me on this services offers okay selena. If you're listening hit up fucking this creepiest dude in <hes> Detroit go to next one wow so so pathetic we met is twice. Imagine reading that you'll women I did. I did meet is twice with somebody buddy today. We met is twice as afternoon. I was leaving seven eleven as you came in. I wish I would have spoke to you if this description leaves. You unsure it wasn't you. Oh Wow this guy is for sure banking on the fact that that person who he met is with definitely registered him. This guy has a high ego. He has a high opinion of himself and that's okay because they say men have to have a high opinion. They have to think that girls want to sleep with them because that's what makes them aggressive and that's what makes other humans come out of it makes you have sex and then come inside of a girl and the girl has a baby and then it keeps the human race going on. That's how it needs to be sometimes guys. That's why guys whenever they talked to her that off. Do I think she likes me because that's a fucking nature. That's crazy dude. I'm really smart. Scientists go next one now. If that's it much thought it was a con mature C._M._t.. Looking for a masseur certified preferred must have studio does he mean masseuse Masseur has moved out of state. Thank you do go to a fucking website. Why are you on craigslist that people go people will go on craigslist and be like need need groceries? Hey if you're out there and you and you own a fucking shoprite let me know need badly celery and pancake batter and milk and eggs trying to make pancakes do not contact me unsolicited resort just go to fucking Ralph's dude go to fucking vons so weird dude no more more the raconteurs what looking for the cute flight attendant who sings opera. I was working king what what the fuck is who wrote this one David Lynch. What kind of fucking shit is this is? This is a Fellini movie dude looking for the cute flight attendant who sings opera make sure you food EUobserver. The non smoking's aim even when you oh so I also what were you working on as if you were on a fucking plane. What were you doing dude? I was an assassin. I was busy assassinating and you were the fucking operatic would it maybe they just had a conversation about how she oh. He was probably working on his laptop or some shit. Maybe that's what it means to be more specific Bro- These fucking ads need to be more specific or less specific and that's very general but it is what it is and that's honestly the truth. That's it talked about. All the things in the world that I wanted time is on prime day. What does that even mean that you can just go? Oh and get a bunch of stuff for cheap. Is that what Amazon prime is two day parade of epic deals. That's what it says. It was not a parade but it's all good kids call. Some parade of is not a parade dude. Food Parade is one thing walking down the street holding signs and streamers and Shit and most of the people. Are you know probably terrible if you're in a parade unless it's like four something like pride even instill but probably pride is a good one or but like if you're in a parade like for like Thanksgiving. You're probably just like kinda terrible. you know Bain contain marching band hand imagine being in a marching band in two thousand Nineteen Dude we have I tunes. We have spotify be fucking play the French horn or some shit right from birth to so many horns you know fucking chill have one fucking type A horn and then a guy. You don't need the guy with the baton. I don't give a shit. People should just be definitely marching to the beat without fucking guy. That's just I mean. Is there anything more annoying than that. Don't prompt on and then flutes like all right fine. That's everything get a fucking. Marching Band is annoying as shit. You got horns that are just throwing prim and then you got fucking sign owing. We all have spotify. Oh God take off those those fucking feathered hats never have a feather in your hat dude. You're not a bird keep the feathers on the bird's. Keep the feathers on the Goddamn birds man. Don't ever have a feather <unk> anywhere on your body period. What are you an Indian? No you just some white guy with a tall hat. <hes> don't have a feather on your body. You're a bird. I'm itchy dude. I'm itchy man so it's fucking going to be done. I'm done dude but Amaechi. I fucking love you guys man. Thanks for listening. I'm GonNa go to Albuquerque again. It's going to be so fucking boring but I'll be there. <hes> and that's that and I'm done and you know. I don't know what the fuck but I guess that's it <hes> download the cash APP for free on the APP store or Google play market download the KRISTALINA APP C show a little bit of it live before it goes and get tickets for my for my Minneapolis show. I'm doing my netflix taping. I think it might be almost sold out and the reschedule on the Chicago. Show is Zegers even the day before that as well. The Detroit is on sale. It might be sold out at this point <hes> and that's it. Thank you guys so much as your great have a good one.

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Two Rollercoasters

Fairground F*ck Ups

16:48 min | 11 months ago

Two Rollercoasters

"In this episode. We have two stories about rollercoasters for them. We will take you to betsy. Pock in london england albert canada. I'm yanna writer. Alex malone welcome to fairgrounds sucks nineteen seventy-two wasn't a great year for great britain strikes. Were crippling the country. The infamous bloody sunday incident. Which would be eulogized you. True song went down in northern ireland and it was becoming increasingly obvious to everyone that the beatles weren't getting back together small wonder then that people sort escapism glam. Rock was in full swing with david. Bowie t rex slade. The sweet dominated the music charts with big hooks and shiny clothes when you think of fun. Pox rollercoasters luckily think florida or california yet. Great britain is harm to many of the world's wildest and largest rollercoasters boasting names such as vampire oblivion and the we commend these modern rides off the same thrills counterparts across the pond. The legacy of a different era however is the battersea funfair opened in may nineteen fifty one. It outlasted most of the prestigious exhibits on london's southbank the fair could well be seen as britain's first theme park predating disneyland. By four years that ac- park was chosen as the venue for the lighter more frivolous side of the festival of britain. It was the brainchild of festival mastermind gerald barry and was developed along the jewel themes of an imaginary owed england and a futuristic wonderland. It was designed for just one year's operation but survived for more than two decades according to becky konkan architects journal article. Fun and fantasy escape and edification. These pleasure gardens of visitors an amusement park a children's zoo a pet corner to theaters one dedicated to music performances. The other two ballet reviews and marionettes a fanciful tree. Tabuk a mississippi showboat and a huge tented performance pavilion. The joan collins. Big dipa the ride which dated back to nineteen fifty one when the park was established during the festival of britain was akin to the london. I of today which sits by the thames. The big dipper attracted long. Snaking queues of people paying fifteen pence each to ride a thrill. A minute joyride way. You pay to be scared ominously. The costa experienced problems from the beginning in may nineteen fifty one. An empty car derailed and knocked over protective railing stranding passengers in the other. 'cause leaving the maroon for twenty minutes disaster struck the big dip again in nineteen sixty eight when another crash gave a woman a broken arm in may nineteen seventy four hundred thousand pounds worth of damage was inflicted on the ride following suspected and attack it was closed for two months then on may the thirtieth nineteen seventy-two late in the afternoon tragedy struck thirty one people had boarded a three car. Wouldn't train as it reached the top of the fest. Incline some fifteen meters above the poc. It was prematurely detached from the drive chain. Despite the best efforts of the man the train slipped backwards under its own momentum on a one in three gradient at the bottom it hit a tight turn and derailed. The lower carriage was crumpled by those behind as soon as we started shooting backwards. Everything went into slow motion for kohl's caroline adamczyk. I turned around and saw the brakeman desperately trying to put the brake on. But it wasn't working my said the carriages didn't go around the bend one detached and went off the side throw wooden holding people. Were groningen hanging over the edge. It was awful screamed that she wanted to get off but she lent on a wooden barrier and it collapsed. I tried to grab the her. But i saw her fall to the ground in front of me. I told everyone to stay where they were as. I tried to find a way down. But i realized as i was walking down that i was walking on blood. I looked up next to the carriage. People were hanging out over the tracks. There was blood everywhere. Caroline's friends sheila brennan. Who was with her on the rod that day says the experience was incredibly traumatic for all the girls especially because in many ways the disaster was left. Unresolved she said. I don't recall being interviewed. And i certainly don't remember the manslaughter. Trial that followed. We would just fourteen year old girls and other police wide caroline's clothes to save rollercoaster. Was i've white. But nobody sparked to me. That didn't even know i was there. We just gave an interview to the daily mail then went home. That was it. Two teenage boys and an eight year old girl died at the scene and two other children died lighter. Scroll through any list of all time worst fund poc accidents and the battisson disaster will make an appearance on meister them. Five children dead and thirteen injured. A post crash investigation revealed fifty one votes on the ride. Not one person or any party was held responsible northbound guilty of causing the accident shocking verdict after the loss of five young lives the disaster led to a review of fairground safety and several charges of manslaughter. Prosecutors described the ride as a death trap citing dozens of floors and safety concerns despite the accusations. The pox general manager and the rides engineer were both cleared of the charges in november nineteen seventy-three nineteen seventy-two. None of the girls will offered counseling. Caroline admits that she was hit hard and eventually had a nervous breakdown in two thousand and five when she was diagnosed with ptsd. She said there was no counseling and no offer of help other than being toll to have a cup of tea and get on with it. Try telling that to. The families left behind after losing a loved. One this episode of fairground fuck ups will continue in a moment Talk welcome back to fairground cups in the late twentieth century in germany. An engineer by the name of anton schwarzkopf not the one. You're thinking of was developing transportable. Coasters that could be enjoyed by patrons of parks across the globe these not small scale collapsible carnival rides aita schwarzkopf's designs set world records in height length spayed. Even in the number of loops on the track disneyland and any six flags in the united states a demonstrated the potential success of a dedicated pot. Family fun attractions. Such a huge dre a looping roller coaster allowed for smaller enterprises to test the waters at any given location without having to commit to an expensive and reversible construction schedule after a successful twelve year engagement with the european circuit dre looping roller coaster found becca. Who wanted to take the roller coaster on a world tour across the pond. The thrilling roller coaster was designed by a few names in malaysia. It was the triple loop costa in england. She was magnum falls. While in mexico she has ultimately become nine by the name chimera. The epic costa can still be found that lithuania digital pick if the gates of the park ever to be open again. This story is not about chimera. This is about her twin mind bender edmonton alberta. Canada is one of the northernmost cities in the world and among the coldest cities on average in the nation with only five months of the averaging temperatures above zero degrees celsius. One can imagine that building an adventure path would be a risky financial prospect with even those fuel warm months capable of only reaching ten degrees. Well put those jets away an end to galaxy land through the doors of west edmonton mall offering the perfect solution for adventure lovers in the great white north. Who are not quite ready for the frozen wastelands galaxy. Land is an indoor theme park. Perhaps it's more accurate to say. That galaxy land is the indoor park opening in nineteen eighty three. It was originally known as fantasy land after twelve years. However the part came to the attention of the famously litigious walt disney corporation who claimed copyright infringement of the use of the name employed at most of their own theme parks around the world. But that's getting a little ahead of the story in one thousand nine hundred five two years after the grand opening fantasy land as it was debuted their latest and greatest attraction mind bender based on the same designer said tween in mexico i'm bender legitimacy and thrill that would be hard to come by for an adventure park built within the confines of a mole. It was a roller coaster that boasted a foster and more exciting experience than many long established outdoor theme parks filled with countless twisting drops. A triple loop. A double helix bonaly mind. Bender is the kind of rollercoaster that makes the roller coasters. Insecure unsurprisingly very quickly became the single most popular ride fantasy land and propelled the establishment to greater heights. Speaking of heights if mine benda and chimera was side by side would notice to differences in their construction. The final stretch of mind bender has added more hilo sees than at southern twin and at forty four point two meters. It's dance toiler than chimera or any other indoor roller coaster in the world for that matter it is a truly singular experience that experience that turney managers yik cindy sims radchenko were lining up for the evening of on june fourteenth nineteen eighty-six when they go together to spend a fun night out as friends mind. Bend was actually closed at the time. The four arrived at day during the operation of the ride earlier that afternoon. Some of the patrons had voiced concerns about the way. The ride had been by vibrating towards the end of the track. Fantasy land stuff had noted. The noise coming from the train as it passed was louder than usual. A sound like some great roaring beast giving consideration to the concerns. Fantasy land management ordered the ride to be shut down and inspected this disappointed many of those who had been waiting impatiently for their turn. One young man recalled waiting around to see how long it might take for them to make sure the ride was safe. He watched as their maintenance person arrived and began his inspection at least he was reasonably certain that he was a maintenance person he was the only one who came to look at anything. The young man noticed that he seemed reluctant to actually get down on the floor. Or ashley touch the rials. All the 'cause he likely didn't want to ruin the three pace suit. He was wearing after the inspection yielded no definitive answers. The management ordered that the ride be run without passengers to see if there was any visible sign of danger that began sending the trains around. It was during this time. That tiny manager chic and his fiancee cindy sims arrived at fantasy land to spend the evening together at the same time. Lifelong friends david. Sega and broad chaco stepped into line behind the young couple having arrived elia. They had killed some time at the arcade until an announcement was made. That mind bender was back in action for the night. They rushed straight over in the investigation to come. It would be determined that a combination of low manufacturing standards on the royal caused us for the ride in conjunction with the lack of proper maintenance procedures had led to the condition of the 'cause deteriorating in ways that would not obvious to the naked eye specifically the bearings that held the wheels in place on the tracks thus securing the train to the ride had shaken loose and the wheels no longer fit tightly manner. Chic- seems sega and chaco took sates in the reimbursed car the right set off seemingly operating as normal at the additional test runs exacerbated the problem or was it the additional white of adults that led to the resulting disaster on the approach to the rides. Famous triple loop. The wheels of the rea- cash shook free their bearings and fell from the ride. The car began to fishtail wildly. Still linked to the 'cause ahead and was pulled along at a frightening speed the codner longer elevated by its will brig was grinding against the steel of the track and soon it's stripped open. The floor staff attempted to engage the emergency brake but it is unclear if it had any effect old fullwood caused when out violently shaking as the train continued towards the first loop but they would noticeably losing speed as the cause rose momentum dropped quickly and the train couldn't reach the apex it paused momentarily. Suspending terrified passengers. The ricca hung over one side of the tracks. Then the train fell backwards. This new tara was short-lived however as the reverse motion was suddenly halted when the rea- car impacted one of the columns the roof of the building the jarring halt rattled. Everyone in this seats then. There was only the sound of weeping. It took emergency crews three hours to rescue the stranded passengers. Six people were admitted to hospital for treatment. The violent shaking of the 'cause lift bruises fractious and concussions to everyone except for the full passengers in the car they had been flung from the ride before it even reached the top fifteen meters to the concrete below. Attorney madrid cindy sims and david. Sega died at the scene due to their injuries. Rudd chaco suffered two broken legs and broken pelvis a broken shoulder and a punctured lung but he survived. he's life of course has never been the same. The mental scars of the day have never faded. Not a day goes by that. He doesn't think about his best friend and tears still come to his eyes at the memory but when asked how he felt about the continued interest in the tragic story after so many years he says do appreciate that people. Still think about it. Broad chaco would like the management of galaxy land to honor the memory of his friend and the young couple that lost their lives beside him. 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A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning

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A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning

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You can also get an ad free version of the show by supporting us at patriot dot com slash inquiring minds, and you skied to the show on itunes or any other podcasting app. Now anyone who's been following science? Or the news knows that we are entering a time of potentially unprecedented change both in terms of our environment. And in terms of our culture as the digital revolution brings us, leaps and bounds into the future. So what does that future going to look like one key is to look, of course, at the past and number of influential thinkers over the past few decades have suggested that our history is shaped by what's called geographic determinism that is the geographic nature of where a society or a civilization has evolved influences. How successful that particular group of people might be. But what if there's another way to look at the same facts and understand something deeper about what it means to be human. That's where Jeremy lent comes in lent suggests that in fact, we should be thinking about the world view of given civilization that is the implicit beliefs and. Values that drive meaning in people's lives in length opinion. This has been a significant driver of the historical path that each civilization has taken and in order to understand the directions in which these civilizations went and where we might be going today. We actually have to take a deeper look into our own cognitive history. He outlines this idea in his book, the patterning instinct, a cultural history of humanity. Search for meeting, and I had the pleasure of a conversation with Jeremy on exactly this topic trying to suss out what his view of history might mean for how we interpret the effects of climate change to come Jeremy land, welcome to enquiring minds. Thank you just great to be on the show with you injury. So I want to start a little bit with having you walk us through what you mean by a cognitive history as opposed to the traditional historical viewpoint that most of us are familiar with. Yes show. Well, cut negative history. Really takes viewpoint. That history is not just a matter of an things happening based on objective, say environmental factors, or who is stronger or who developed and this or that technology all that kind of stuff, but it actually looks at this notion that the ways in which cultures make sense of the world affect the values the value system and affect what they actually do with history. So really, the the upshot is that the values of different cultures actually has a significant shaping factor in the way history has unfolded. And by that, you mean the way history has been recorded or actually what has happened as a result of that worldview. Right. And that's a great question and really both. But the particular thing on talking about him and the way which is a little bit surprising based on the conventional mainstream view of history. Is that latter one that actually the stuff is? Actually, happened has been affected by the different ways in which cultures have made sense of the universe, and how that's affected values and what they believe one should do. So I mean, it's hard enough to get historical facts from whatever records that you're using. How do you get a sense of what the cognitive worldview is of particular culture? If you know if if that culture is far back in the past. Yes. Well, lot of it has to do with a combination of reading original sources at least as far back as we can go where there's a written record. So for example in China. We can go back to pretty much twenty five hundred years or so ago to get a pretty good sense of how at least the the people who are able to write made sense of things and similarly of this we can go back to the ancient Greeks and to and then if we go pre before rich and language will then. We rely a lot, of course on the work of anthropologist and there's actually field of cognitive anthropology. This developed in the last few decades where people use enter political techniques to really try to get a deeper sense of how other preliterate cultures made sense of the universe. All the way to the earliest together as so can you tell us a little bit about some examples from know, you can choose whatever era, you feel is best to kind of give us a sense of how cognitive history, you know, what what is the cognitive history in particular culture, how it unfolds well in the sense, and what I'd like to infect the book has quite a big focus untraditional Chinese thought, which is relatively obscure to most western minds, and even weld histories tend to sort of marginalize China. But in fact, it's been probably perhaps in some ways, the most significant civilization all of history, and certainly. One of the two along with the current mainstream modern western base, and what's interesting. There is you you see the ways in which the earliest Chinese all through to almost pre modern times made sense of the universe was in a very different way from what we used to in the west and some of the fundamental differences. For example, is that we in the west have tended to inherit was called, a dualistic mindset, where we get a sense, there's a split between mind, and buddy or a split between humans and the rest of nature or even a split between two different dimensions of the kuzma's from Plato. We have the sense that there's is fixed eternal heavens up up there. And when nothing changes in this kind of polluted well-varied things always changing down below and that led to a lot of the ways in which Christianity developed, etc and traditional China that whole concept never even appeared. So there was much more of a sense of everything being connected. And and they had this root metaphor. For that. I call an really the harmonic web of life for how everything is connected with the sense that one little change here, and such through ripples everything else in the universe in one way or another. And you know, that sounds well how how is that going to actually affect how history takes place, but there's some really Connick moments where we actually see history unfolding as a basis of these different kind of world views. Yes, I actually in your book, you talk about the work of Edward Laurens. On the western side who kind of discovered some of this ripple effect by you know. Well, why don't you tell us? Yes show. Well, you know, he was he was one of the first of the modern scientific way to really start to come up with a way of making sense of the universe. And actually was more connected with the traditional Chinese thought than the mainstream western way of looking at things. So, you know, ever since Newton really in western scientific thought that was the sense of a reductionist universe in the sense that everything was determined. And we just need to get the information. We could understand exactly what's going to happen. And and really a lot of the discovers that were made led to the sense that. So when I nine could understand how to make sense of the of sudden equipped particles, all of a sudden, we could get the power of the atomic bomb and predict exactly what was going to happen with that. And so the Wren's was. Actually, working on taking the most advanced computers of the time in the I think the late sixties and seventies. And he was saying with all this, advanced computing power. I should be able to detect how whether it's going to be so rather than just forecasting a couple of days invents. Well, we should be able to forecast, you know, six months year in advance exactly was going to happen. And what they discovered is the tiniest little change in an assumption like going from three decimal points to six decimal pints, whatever led to completely different outcome is predictions. Just in the weather a few days later. So he kind of really the hallmark of great scientists to discover some little bug and rather than just ignoring it to go deep into it. And that's what he did. And he was the one who first came up with this question that since become known as the butterfly effect. And it was a question more than a statement. He hit the question was could it be that the flap of butterfly's wings in Brazil could lead to a tornado in Texas. And with the idea being that you. Can have very small affect which can sometimes become amplified. And if you think again of this web of life analogy, just like in imagine all of these connectors of the weather system is being this complex web that one little effect here can amplify all the way through the system to cause a completely unexpected and outputs at sometime later. I mean, I can understand how this makes it makes me as a scientist uncomfortable. Right. This idea that in fact, the things that we're working so hard to predict regularities in the environment. Can so quickly be perturbed by something so small? So can you tell us a little bit about sort of this push and pull between the kind of the view that that a lot of scientists have that the work that we're doing is going to lead to some kind of general principles and the systems way of thinking, which presumably accepts the fact that there is some uncertainty that will remain in the system, and yet we can still gain some understanding of it. Yes. Yeah. You're racing. And I think you touch really important point it when you have gone through the whole education process of becoming a scientist and feeling the power of this kind of knowledge approach to the world. It can be really undermining say, oh, wait a minute. You telling me that this doesn't work. Exactly like, and that may be one reason why this paradigm shift, I see potentially taking place has taken so long to unfold people, very resistant to these ideas, even really. Against the sort of scientific method itself, which says that when faced with a new data, you need to go back and check your assumptions, and and yet a lot of very sort of hardcore fundamentalist reduction, scientists just don't want to do that. And I think that a lot of this has to do with the fact that the what what's an system science offers is not so much fixed laws but principles so it's not just like systems thinking in general says, oh, we can't make sense of anything. But what we find? And what's fascinating. With a lot of systems thinking we see systems biology complexity science network theory, a lot of different approaches to what I call. The scientists of connection is that the same principles can apply in one field as in completely different fields. And one of those principles, for example, is like Fratello city of how. A lot of self organized systems and actually showed the same patterns at different levels of scale. So you have these kind of scale free network effects, and you see that in anything from schools of fish to ripples on sand dunes to like almost any infect the way neurons work in the brain. So it leads you to this kind of somewhat inspiring sense. Other is kind of principles of how the universe connects up which are not fixed laws. You can't use those principles to say if I knew every single bit of data. I know exactly what was going to happen. But the principles themselves can then be applied to new contexts. I can see how then in in a civilization that emerged out of his dualist viewpoint and was influenced with by by belief in a single God. For example. I can Christianity and just monotheist religions that you can you can sort of imagine. And then that there is a creep in of this idea that therefore it was designed right if there are these and yet if you come from an eastern civilization where perhaps the idea of one God was not something that took hold in the world view. You can actually have a different interpretation of the same. Yes, I think that is very true. And and one of the things that I found most fascinating is is doing the research for this book, the patenting instinct, and is something that you would just describing that and we often think in modern times of science and religion as being utterly opposed in separate from each other. But what I began to realize as we looked at how cognitive history unfolds is that this belief in a God in the heavens who is emissions, and I'm nepotism sets everything on in the earth happening, and it used to this kind of split like the earth is the sort of dry weather drama takes place and somewhere up. There is God who directs everything and that led to this way of thinking that if we can understand the laws that God applies to the world, then we could really touch into the mind of God. So a lot of the the luminaries of the scientific revolution. Whatever I'm Newton Descartes and Kepler Galileo. Almost every one of them. What inspired them is the sense that by using logic? They could actually understand the mind of God. And that came from Christian what I call Christian rationalism this thinking that God made the world, according to a set of laws that he gave reason to men, of course, there were no women in this equation. So he gave reason to man to understand this world that he gave. And so to us reason to figure out the rules of science was actually to do God's work. And that was what what really inspired them so much and then science developed further the sort of got a little bit in to its own sensitive tone magnificence, and so then you could just cut got out of the equation entirely, but you still had the same deterministic world, according to a set of laws just without the good part. But really that science would never have developed. If it weren't for Christianity in the first place offering this kind of inspiring way of thinking, well, and then of course, there's the idea. Adam ate the forbidden fruit. Right, right. Some ways and some people's view is this knowledge right is like trying to understand God is eating the forbidden fruit. So I can see why there's this push and pull between rationality and the pursuit of knowledge and some interpretations of the tenants of Christianity. But what about in the eastern civilizations than we're this was not necessarily a driving force? I mean, you know, do we see? A kind of pursuit of knowledge in a in a in a in a maybe a different framework hard for me as a western trained scientists. And and yet the surprising answer the surprising for people trained in western sodas. Yes. And there was just an amazing scholar in the twentieth century Joseph Needham, who was actually a biologist who then became totally fascinated by Chinese learned Chinese went to China, and he ended up writing he wrote something like twelve volumes of what he is history of science and technology in China. And then he started this whole it was almost like a sub discipline. There are now dozens of volumes written on the same topic. And what he showed through this really deep research was that actually there was a very very advanced Chinese approach to science and technology in areas as diverse as mathematics cuts fee geology, and you can pretty much name. It, and they if you look at for example, as late as the fifteenth sixteenth century, you'll see that the Chinese scientific and technological wave understanding the world as as a fenced, and some places more advanced than western ideas. Their approach was different. And this is what's so fascinating. They tend to approach things based on relationships rather than looking at the things themselves. So for example, when there's a scientific phenomenon this space more on relationships such as the tides which has to do the relationship of the moon and gravity and the us. The massive cetera. They actually had developed a theory of tides in relation to the moon way before that developed in the west because of this kind of recognition of looking at things not as having intrinsic properties. But how they relate to everything else. And but it didn't lead to the scientific revolution. And part of my own. I spent I actually had a chapter in the book looking at why didn't the scientific revolution happen in China or for that matter in the world of Islamic civilization, which was equally advanced at that time. And ultimately, I do think there was something about that dualistic way of thinking in the west that way of looking at things objectively and coming up with this with mathematics is this kind of transcultural way of understanding things that leads to a different mindset the did allow the scientific revolution to to take off in the west. But it was also. Also because it led to a sense of conquest over nature, and this is what's so fascinating that the Chinese for example, and didn't look at the use of knowledge and the use of technology to Konkan, h it the very notion of conquering nature would have been just nonsensical to them because they looked at how you harmonize with nature. So they were very much interested in how you used understanding to an harmonize with the forces of nature, whereas the west got fascinated by this idea of with separate from HP. We can Konkan h you and so you have people like Francis Bacon. These prophets of conquering nature. He talked about putting nature on the rack and torturing and secrets out of her which inspired many of the thinkers of the in the seventeenth and eighteenth, century and nature is getting her revenge. Well, yes, I know that I do think, and this is where I go in the book the final chapters that that worldview has led to some of these extreme imbalance. That according so much dis- destruction of nature right now and potential potentially destruction of our own civilization. But I think it's important to recognize that even though I go to this place in a lot of depth in my book. Sometimes people have looked at what I'm writing about and gun the sense that somehow I'm trying to say, oh this East Asian view of harmonizing with the world is better than our western view. And we there's something fundamentally wrong or evil about dualistic splits in a way of thinking. And I don't see it that way at all. I see both of these different worldviews is having a tremendous amount to offer an humanity overall, and and wisdom and are really the flourishing of human life on earth. But this western way, has led to these extreme imbalances and one of the things I'm inviting in my book, and my writings in general is for our western mindset to be open to another way of looking at the. World which now it's turns out is being validated by modern systems, thinking not to say reductionism is wrong or has some negative light malevolence to it or anything like that. But to realize that by integrating those two different ways of thinking it can be uncomfortable. We have to go outside of their comfort zone of we want to be in control of everything. But by integrating that we have the possibility to actually come to more integrated way of living with nature for humanity in the future. We all want to be able to practice mindfulness every day. 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So there are some practices in Chinese medicine that are based on energy flow, for example, and this concept of interconnectedness between different parts of the body, and how energy is flowing through them and balancing these different forces and these have led to some pseudoscientific. Claims and also it can be very. Attractive for a person who's in pain or suffering from whatever it is to search for an answer outside of western medicine of west has not helped and to turn to the ancient quality of Chinese medicine, and the very nature of it's being ancient suggesting that it's better or or you know, and it's like come on. And just get your perspective on this idea of Chinese medicine. You know, how should approach it given that we are in this dualist worldview, and how someone like me who's pretty skeptical of claims of medicine that are either not based in mechanistic explanations that I can understand or that we have had objective measures showing efficacy of. We'll see but controlled trials, for example. Right. So I just like up -solutely, and and I share your concern about like this kind of pseudoscientific claims and quackery and almost like an orientalist. I'm like, oh, if comes from some traditional mode must be better all that stuff. And I'm completely with you on that and the same time again, we need to be need to be aware that the very success of the reductionist project if you will has led to the arrogancy you'll the hubris for thinking that because we've been able to explain so much. We can explain everything. And that's where I feel things things go wrong. So to give you a sense of what I'm talking about. And like imagine, I told you about a particular. Medical innovation that across the board. It almost every single sickness that people had could improve could enhance the effect of the benefits of whatever medication using by usually something between ten to twenty percents, and it could work across the board. Well, it would be like, okay. How can I patent this? This is this is the next sort of multibillion dollar. We've gotta us. So we have that. But we don't understand the placebo effect. Exactly. Yeah. So and so because with the reductionist viewpoint it's really it's kind of human nature to we tend to. But particularly in the west we tend to focus on what we can measure. And if we can't understand something if we can't make sense of it, we just ignore it. We say, that's just noise. So forget that what is this or that happening? Now. Of course, the what I'm getting at is that they're all these different comp the human buddy itself and the. Human organism, because we really mind buddy organism is this incredibly complex, non linear system of have different moving systems within it different fractional systems and not just within ourselves but systems in our relationships with others and all the rest of the world. And that's not woo. That's not like, you don't have to sort of believe in the sort of Chinese medicine herbs in order to come up with that understanding that we are integrated systems within systems, and what western medicine tends to do is isolate a particular part of that system and say now, let's understand that do what we can make that work, and that can work incredibly, well, again, this is not to diminish the effect of that. But there's also so many other things going on. So that when you have a particular drug that is looked seems to be effective. You look at this drug versus the placebo controlled trial. It's is twenty percent more affected than the other one. But all the other the other. Eighty percents. That is not that doesn't actually work is because of all the NIST that we haven't yet. Understood. And a lot of those don't have to do with finding one particular microorganism that we didn't discover one particular molecular what one protein here of that. But it has to do with the way the whole system connects up, and so that gives a sense of what I'm looking at. Yeah. I kinda reminds me of some of these findings about what what makes one musician perform better than another for example. And you know, you can say ten thousand hours deliberate practice, and then they're these studies that come out that show that the number of practice hours only a can can explain about twenty five percent of the variants, depending on the domain. What is the other seventy five percent? And that's where people slap on this idea of talent. Because really, we don't know. And so I guess, you know, my answer said that kind of a dilemma would be well every practice our is not created equal. There are too many. Different ways in which a practice. Our can be more or less effective, given this kind of systems approach to what is your mindset going in? Or you motivated are you tired where are you practicing and cetera that we can't make that kind of Quincy? And yet, you know, I guess the thing that I struggle with a little bit is. So how does systems theory approach that problem in a way that is better or more effective or whatever positive adjective you want to use compared with me just throwing up my hands and saying, let's just call it talent. Because we don't know. Right. And well, I think one important way in which an intelligent approach to looking at complex systems is different from the reductionist approach is the concept of humility that because when we approach something as we can approach as a scientist a complex system. And the first thing we need to recognize is that because of this complexity, we don't actually know exactly how one effect thing. One butterflies flat peers. Go into effect, the weather in Texas, whatever it might be. And we see this in. This has really important implications say if we're looking at the issues of climate breakdown right now and some scientists with the best intentions saying, you know, even if we do all these ecological all these economic changes, and we get green energy etcetera with still so out of control we have to explore geo engineering, and that very notion, then takes us reductionist view of life as being a machine and says, you know, we can because nature then really is a machine we can engineer we can try to affect us one aspect of climate breakdown, and somehow that will make everything we can measure what's going to happen. And that's the kind of the hubris that the western approach to science has brought that I think is fundamentally existential dangerous versus this recognition like a systems approach has this kind of place if she Miltie where it says. For example. There's a practice called permaculture which plays very ancient indigenous and modern systems understanding to looking at agriculture and the first principal in permaculture is to observe take your time and don't just come in and say, okay, we've got this field here. It's flatten it put fertilizer, and look if if you have the ability wait a whole year watch how things develop in the rainy season. What happens here? What's where this happens and begin to get a sense? A deeply integrated sense of what you're what you're working on the biggest system, and that's true of looking at a medical approach to our buddies or looking at any any level of the whole natural world has a complex system. So, but your book is called the patterning instinct, and we haven't even gotten there yet. So before we get to work what you're supposed solutions are for some of these complex problems that we're facing. Now, what is the pattern in instinct? Well, the pending instinct is. As an instinct that is pretty much uniquely human at least in so far as it's highly developed to pattern meaning into the world. And that is an instinct that we know it's an instinct because even a newborn infants actually applies that. So when when she's born nobody tells infant now, you need to listen to all the words that you hear and kind of figure out what what what was speaking is our language, but she's driven right from the first moments to hit these different sounds and to relate. It's to what activities happen. What things feel like an over the month? She begins to realize, oh, there's something going on here. Let me try this or that sound. And if I make them sound this relates back, so she's patenting meaning in to the world around her and she'll develop a knowledge of her cultures language, and then as you grow older develop a knowledge of your actual culture itself. And so the what I began to realize that way back when the dawn of. Really modern humans volving because of this patenting instinct that was evolving us to devote develop things like language, and how to be successful and complex societies that we had that instinct apply to the world out there too. And looking at all this sort of otherwise chaotic stuff that was going on early humans began to look and say, they got a patent some meaning into this. It was just that drive to do that. And that led to the first approaches of mythology, the first ways of making sense of the world that led to essentially, the development of culture and everything else. That's come since. Then. So the book really looks at how that instinct to patent meaning into the world has led to the unfolding human history. Yeah. I mean, we see now we do it automatically and outside of our conscious awareness, even when we see the face of an old man in a cliffside Romeo or trying to find the bunny in the clouds. We're we're looking at you know. That's right and abstract nece and trying to find meaning in it. And you know, this is going to get into into trouble when we're faced with this global catastrophic potentially climate change problem, which you know, as you mentioned earlier seems really hard to predict because there's all these different. You know, we still don't know whether patterns that well enough, and here we are talking about climate changes, which obviously are much more than weather patterns, but that comes into play in terms of how climate change will affect us locally in on a day-to-day basis. So how do you see either the pattern in patterning instinct being? Something that can help us come up with an implement solutions to this major problem or prevent us from being able to really, you know, accept that. This problem is complex and might not be understandable to any individual. Yeah. Great question. And in a way that is one question with the flip side one or the other because if you think about patches, and what it means to patch to actually see a pattern something we do two things at the same time. We if you look like a set of dots, and you find a pattern in it you connect up those parts of the otherwise chaotic stuff that look like the meaningfully connected to you, and you begin to ignore the parts that you're not connected. So when humans I look up at the sky when we came up with constellations in the stars. Basically that's about these are the ones that feel meaningful and acknowledge the rest. So once we recognize that we can see that. If we look at the. Modern world view that feels like it's been so successful that that putting instinct leads us to only look at the things that again, we can measure and the things that validate what we want to believe already. And so part of what I'm offering in this book is this invitation to actually try to recognize how those patterns as I said before not necessarily bad, but have led us to these imbalances. And to look at the possibility of other ways of patenting, meaning into things that could lead us to a different way of making sense of the very reality. We're looking at right now. And so two to look at how that applies to something like this climate breakdown. It's too again at once we realize that we're looking at complex interconnected system rather than separate realities. We begin to realize that we're not just looking at climate change as something that's a matter of increased carbon emissions, and it's not just a matter of one measurement or another. Here. It's actually an a symptom of a ecological relationship between humans and the natural world that has gone massively out of balance and is actually getting out of balance at an even faster rate year by year. And so we have to see that we need to shift some of the very sustainable ways in which humans relate with each other with ourselves and with the natural world and put that back into balance as part of fixing the the the existential threat of climate breakdown rather than just saying, okay, let's fix this climate thing. And then we'll be okay. Because in in a way, I think one thing we can say because of this recognition of the sustainable nature of problem is virtually everyone of modern technological problems that we're looking at right now, we'll once solutions. So the things that we thought were fixes decades ago. Have now led to some of these problems now. I mean, I I think that. I hear you're coming from. And I think you're right. But the pushback that I wanted to give a little bit is that, you know, understanding how our brains work, and, you know, Daniel common puts it so beautifully in this thinking fast and slow to system model if you think about the system to which is our slow deliberate thoughtful rational decision making part of our brains or whatever circuitry thinking. That system is lazy. And it will look for quick it'll take the quick solution. If it kind of sounds, right? And so when faced with the complexity of the problem, I think a lot of us kind of feel paralyzed because you're right. It's complex. It's going to hit every system, and it's going to be unpredictable and what the outcome is going to be. So I'm just gonna take my lazy system to and go hide over here and put my head in the sand because there's nothing I can do. So I guess that's kind of what I'm asking for you from you, given the research that you've done the deep thinking that you've put into this book. How do you think that we should invite people to actually make meaningful changes in their lives that can help avert the disaster with this knowledge that they just wanna find a pattern shown? Yeah. I hear you. And really that's approach to say. Well, you know, there's really nothing I can do. Do is just yet another outcome of this kind of reductionist way of looking at things. So if we think back to that image before of the butterfly's wings, potentially causing a tornado in Texas, the recognize to sort of key real recognitions rising from systems thinking that I think transforms our way of relating personally to what's going on around us and one is non linear nature things that recognizing that one small change hair can have indirectly very significant amplified effects that we can ever even predict. So there's a certain kind of mystery that we have to accept about that. And there's a certain responsibility realizing that we what we do may not be alternately meaningless and forgotten like a day later, but might have impacts in terms of being picked up by the people or even just the most unexpected impacts. So that's one key insight that arises the other one is the recognition that we are all embedded in this. System. The lot of the ways of thinking that are western reductionist. Muddle office is the census somehow there's a separation the observer is separate from us being observed. And so yeah, look at the cell phone microscope. I'm not the cell. I'm separate from that. And but when we look at the whole system and the future really of our civilization. We it's really tricking ourselves to think that each of us is separate from it. And we owe all it's nothing I can do and it's nothing to do with me. Anyway, with the actual the actions each of us take the actual ways in which each of us relate to us going on and is part of the future that we're creating. So again, that's that comes with a sense of responsibility. There the people may not like, but there's also a sense of freedom and. Potentially excite excitement that arises from that. Because once we realized that as a network, what each of us does connected with what other people do can actually have these non linear facts, they begins to arise a sense of hope not based on some sort of statistical projection that okay, and there's a twenty or forty percent chance whatever the things will turn around. But a recognition that none of us know. So there are some there's a growing movement of people right now who looking at climate breakdowns and coming up with this kind of apocalyptic theory, saying collapse is inevitable. And there's nothing we can do all we can do is look after our own or just come up with ways to adapt to whatever that is every bit as wrong in my view as the climate deniers who say this is not happening which is completely inconsistent with science. But there is nothing inevitable about the way this complex system will unfold and the approach that each of us takes to it is. Part of what's going to actually create that future. Well on that hopeful note, I want to remind our listeners that Jeremy lens book the patterning instinct, a cultural history of humanity. Search for meaning is now available at booksellers everywhere. Jeremy thank you so much for being on enquiring lines. Thank you. It's been a push it toward. So that's it for another episode. I wanna thank you for joining us for this installment of enquiring minds, and we'd also like to take our supporters on our patriotic campaign, especially David Noel, Charles Lyles, Clark Lindgren, Michael gal goule. 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121 Keith Montgomery: Becoming a Polymath, Sensemaking, & Digital Technologies

Noble Warrior with CK Lin

1:55:00 hr | 3 months ago

121 Keith Montgomery: Becoming a Polymath, Sensemaking, & Digital Technologies

"Welcome to noble warrior. My name is c. Kaelin noble warriors were interview. Multi-dimensional entrepreneurs about their spiritual disciplines. So you can engineer your life. More depth impact. Meaning if you have any friends who could use more inspiration and permission to take that leap of faith go ahead and show this episode with them though. Thank you for. My next guest is keith. Montgomery keith is a serial entrepreneur in the area of digital acid digital transformation in next generation technologies. We talked about how you uses the mathematical mind in linguistic strategies to make sense of the world. How you learn six languages and became a highly sought after specialist for next generation technologies. Why the dreamworld and the digital world getting more and more similar why he's excited us crypto currencies as a way to give more financial sovereignty for the bottom of the pyramid how he discerns the of personalities as well as the possibilities in digital media and crypto currencies the six ill-at-ease of the nfc technologies the analytical and the fundamental angles that he use to find opportunities in the blockchain space. Then we get into you. Men's work the difference between spur at work and soul work. They exponential benefits having his own systems in areas. That are important to him. The specific techniques of what is at risk to make a fast and accurate decisions. Please enjoy my conversation. Was syrah entrepreneur keith. Montgomery how many language you speak. I'd say three and then maybe six. Okay yes do my list them off. So that way people get a taste of the variety shirt english Chinese german injuring. Yeah mandarin correct. Yeah and in spanish italian and french so that saw with the fascination will language and then use that as a way to break it down into like how you look at the world. How when you where's the passion coming from. And how do you approach. Yeah learning a new language. I think always whiz with me. If i hear sounds i wanna a mimic them or something. It's like a world that was out there. The biggest thing now. The that question in high school language was into was my strength. There wasn't the thing that i wanted to do. And and it did make sense. Ram from in ohio so the the real awakening was when i actually traveled for the first time in those going to university in germany and i realized people used german in germany and it was just it. Sounds so silly. But it's one of those things that if i see this over and over again in life a talk about the digital transformations and all these things is when we get around. People like us which is usually who we work with. We drink are cool eight. And we don't realize there's a whole world outside of us and it's the whole world so the fascination was oh my gosh this is useful and i need to use this to survive and then the germans have this saying called the books. Tom konkan height. It means like the sickness of the alphabet letters. And it means right when you start to read when you start to actually become ravenously curious. There's no stopping it. And so when you're learning that language way you learn german next thing you know as i was taking books with me and the trains and i was just absorbing and once that happened once that light was turned on it allowed me to travel. It allowed me to do things so much it so much. Easier than colleagues and one one is where my colleagues we. We had traveled to eastern europe. It was like kind of a weekend trip. And i realized that they had been more in the american schools where they had spoken english with each other because they could. I would too if we're speaking english right now. It's easier but i wasn't enabled that way because of the way i was dropped off in germany. It was just a happenstance problem. It forced me to sink or swim. And i swam in so that light came on and i realized the more a person can understand what the heck are saying around them. You could actually just be along with people be there with with people. Connect with them and learn a different ways of thinking and the more ways you learn of thinking them the more like quivers you have in your arrows you have your rights so that you're able to as a psych okay. This problem could be solved this way or it could be this way or it could be this way. So i think the the fascination the passion became apparent where it was one of those aha moment said. Hey i can do this. And and i started getting these philosophies around to is i realized it was probably mostly about pride in fear and and have the saying that i tell people when they say i can't learn languages and i said if you went to china let's say you into northeastern china where i went the first time in taught at the university there and you find a one and a half year old boy or girl or two year old and they're learning chinese. Obviously they're speaking chinese. That's what they use. In china. If a one and a half and a two year old in china can speak chinese. Do you think you at thirty forty or whatever it is usually talking to adults and say i just. I'm stuck in my ways. There's no way with a one and a half year old and china learn chinese. You can learn chinese. You just have to get over yourself understand that. It's a language that was made to be used and your brain is much more developed than one and a half year old two year old four year. Old even they will be would be fluently. Moving through insane monte. Whatever and all the different things. I need to eat and use the bathroom and all of them really important things in life that you need to learn so those are lau mindset for people to go. Oh yeah good point so then the next thing. Is you know the same thing that happened to me. Is like deluge rain. That's coming down. The same thing goes with if you wanna learn a language completely overwhelm yourself. That's how i feel about anything really is if i want to get something new in my life just overwhelm myself and my brain will rise to the challenge. I like that. So many the quick recap so what you said is you. Start out with a ravenous curiosity yourself in a place of single swim and and then with the mentality my this narrative of pride or fear right then also the functional practicality of functional skill of you travel so all of these combined allows you to learn a language very quickly in the reason. I asked this question. I wanna start off with language because language is a little bit more relatable. Yeah yeah it's a little bit more relatable or something that's a little bit more esoteric like cautiousness or men's work or parenting mentoring where even like blockchain these a little bit more esoteric so that we started with language your talked about. I think he was. Your team's mission is to use communications way to bridge different worlds together. So can you share with us a bit about. Why did you want to use communication language knowledge as different path to bring people together a lot of places. But if i just had to come like with my god. It was the fact that i think most of the world. When i look at it. It doesn't make sense so it was since making in. If i wanna put things together the only way can look at is all the different edges of the world around me if i want to solve the problem. I don't just go into the problem. I walk all around the perimeter of that problem and the other thing is when we talk about language learning in the mathematician to it. These are techniques that you get outside yourself. Language learning is really great because it commands humility. Screw up all the time. You're not going to be this curated. Perfection i would never say that i have all the vocabulary in chinese or german or whatever it's i have accepted a level of mindset or a way they think or way of of the other culture thinks because i surrender to that part of that surrendering humility. Humility allows me to start to see that. Maybe these things aren't as disconnected as they first appeared so the world is it. What drove me. I think mostly was like whoa. That doesn't seem right. And these people treating those people that way. That doesn't compute or is that doesn't work. So what is that and and then also the things that say. I'll see in my local newspaper in the united states. And i look at a newspaper. Outside the united states as he's very differently are we see them differently cetera. So it was more of whoa. That can't be right. That's not us or that's not them. And and all of the above seem to be true so the humility allows for me to go. Okay and not too arrogant to believe that in the center of the world or the. Us is a center of the world. Where i was raised or how. I was raised as the only way. Therefore all the polymath is just really to me since making being able to go about life and have a good full life and be able to impart it to others that that i think that's very important too is. It's not just about me. If i find some fire that i can see my way through. And i can give someone a torture lighter better that that that would be better so that that would be my first gut. Answer is it's more of a reaction to something where it doesn't make sense and so it sends making love that and so in in your bio used this line. Keith uses a mathematicians mind linguist strategies to allow him to set powerful visions. Bill high performing team lee initiative. So i like that so break it down for me. let's say if i'm omi. I'm taking this new crypto stuff and if t because i think fundamentally ship something break down for me with your mathematicians my linguis- strategies to help me make more sense of this new technologies and the possibility that okay. So yeah it's actually means something. When i do ready to it's not some kind of blur so mathematicians mind ally different types of mathematicians but one of the again the opportunities is a mathematician is to pick apart. Why the math works. And so you have to do these proofs right you learn logic and you learn all the different tools that allow you to think through. How did someone arrive at the simple equation and so when you have to go through a proof or you have to go through solving equation for x. An ax is a very complicated thing to do. And you find yourself solving in paper. You're basically trying to write it out and twenty pages later. You're coming to the wrong answer and somewhere in those twenty pages you have to have some level of rigor around around understanding how you went wrong. Or where are you at wrong. And and i wouldn't say i'm the most detail oriented that's not my mindset but then there's i have this pattern capability right zero end to. That's a problem. That's a problem. And so i think what's important is is if you wanna fly or whatever say you were talking about crypto currency and. I don't see it. As a crypto currency a seat is a fintech evolution and evolution of. How do we use technology to enable better behavior more. Be more people winning cetera. The problem is in this space. Is it's filled with what i would consider a lot of promotion and and if you're in any kind of executive role or any kind of role where you're operating accompany. You always know that when people come in the door like a sales person comes north. They're gonna give you the upside. They're always going to give upside. But so i always start with the downside or give me how you arrive here and what could go wrong in all these different things. I know you're going to give me the upside. I got i got your shirt. Got it but tell me the other side of the story. And i think the rigor around that as a mathematician an in the mindset of. Let's look at this whole thing. What's examine this and let's see how you came to your conclusion. What i find is more and more the amount of innovation that has come into this space because it really is about money or about finance and wealth it starting to move a lot of people to actually create something that is solving for some kind of and that gets exciting because when someone promotes says i've solve for x than go back and go did you and then could you use another technology to do it and more and more. You're starting to see. Actually wait this technology as is useful and it is something that is not going to be. You use the cloud or use other different technologies that you could just basically do it so much less expensively so much easier and probably more secure so yeah that's what i mean by that and then the linguists was already talking about that the level of humility to look at it from a child's mind or from a mind of emptiness of every time you start to learn a language you start like almost like an empty tablet. Yes you have structures in your brain that are set up in all these things. Yes we do know their methods that are there but the fact is the more you can wipe that slate clean the more you can accept another grammatical. The way syntax works and language like germany. The put the verb at the end of the sentence. There's a level of delayed gratification. To understand what the action amount. The sentence is enforces the person to have a level of rigor to go to that When chinese grammar there is grammar everybody. There's a lot of people don't understand. Chase has a lot of grammar. But if you if you come at it from or speaking english and i say this is the grammar should then i i completely start to superimpose my mindset or what my understanding is on something that is not and has its own history it has its own way of thinking and has all the cultures that are part of it so when i think about finance when i think about cryptocurrency when i think about this extremely esoteric it's dangerously so it's cult level esoteric and and what i mean by Say what do you say. That colt level esoteric. Same more about that because there are different things when you look at a cult there are different signs that you're in a cult or this is a cult and it's not just a cult for religion could be a corporation could be anything it's a. There's a leader right and without that leader everybody's lost and there are certain levels of control if you don't do such and such you excommunicated. You're out right. So you basically i give i joined this organization and i give up my power. Please don't kick me out because my identity is you and so there are different. Things occur for people when they're promoting things that they start to really drink their own kool aid which is with from a colt right. The idea of the jim jones cult nafta car. That what what happened. People drank kool aid. If you know the story behind the jim jones thing what. I'm saying so the very dangerous thing. When things are esoteric this is why digital transformations. It's very different than hey i'm going. We're going to look at a corporation. We're look at ourselves and we're going to put all these technologies in there and you guys are going to be just amazing right going to be working so much better and you're gonna be able to track everything from knowledge management and you'll be able to execute all these different things. Those things are taking technology in running the business better or running your life better. But now you're getting into the place where you're saying. I'm putting my entire livelihood. Literally its currency. It's going to be wealth in this world that the majority of people have no idea and understanding what it is and so all the promotions. it's great it's whatever but if you've ever tried to use a wallet in crypto currency you better go through a very strong process of security like cybersecurity. You better go through a very strong process of just the computer code itself understanding how this matches this and that that is not a swipe the credit card moment that most of people in the world or i look in my pocket and i have a few dollars that i can give you for excess. Like it is not the user friendly environment that's being promoted and and moreover lots of people are hacked. Lots of people are losing all their livelihood that they put in that while so this is why it's so important to have that mindset of. How did we get here to this. What was promoted who is happiness kool-aid and then back in and say but there's something good here. There's a reason people went here. They needed something they wanted something. And so when you start to back into it you start to actually see what could be very useful to people in their everyday lives versus hype and by now. Most things are hype. And i know that drives a lot of markets and things like that but i think it's also a very dangerous thing so i bring up the word cult because they're our personalities that drive this hype and make people think this thing is great. Right is all ready to go and just wrapped up in a bow. And it's christmastime. Whatever holiday you celebrate it's ready and so it's not. It's a work in progress but it's a very important work in progress from the fact that we are no matter what we think. We're moving from that. Physical world too trusting the digital world in a digital world is so as you use the word esoteric intangible. You can't grab it a friend of mine. Who's longtime mentor is. He's opened my mind in so many ways. He's in his eighties and at the end of his life and he's been a friend for over twenty years A deep friend and he when he talks about it so it's so simple and yet it's so powerful as he'll talk about i i go to sleep at night. I have a dream. And i dream about amazing things and things that i'm able to acquire a million dollars in a bag and and i swear it's real. I swear it's real. And i wake up and i look for. I look for the bag in my on my pillow on my bed. And there's no back because the dream wasn't real it was this esoteric world. the digital world is like that. can you grab ones and zeroes. That are on your your g mail account do you. Can you grab a bitcoin now. You can't really that whole world can disappear just like a dream and you don't necessarily have capacity to do that now. I can go in depth about that. Bitcoin's a little stronger in some ways about that but the digital transformation. This is why it's easy to get lost along the way in the dream or the dream state That's why cults that. That's why i brought that up you you you drop a lot of gyms. Actually underline a few things so you talked about in my mathematicians mirer looking. I think systematically really trace every step of the way the logic on the way then linguists strategies keeping an open mind without superimpose your existing mindset of framework around. So that way you can learn the hidden rules the grammars on the app so let's start there and then you talked about the powerful vision that people said you were cautious. Really just buying to drinking the kool aid on leaving something. That's more ready than than actually is. That's roughly you just cover. Roughly we can make the assumption that we will get the upside from everybody out there in the system. It's our job to start to actually get to. Why did they sulfur x and is to solve for x. And the best way okay. Perfect great so looking at a new problem again. We gonna get a little meta you. And i were one of them excited to talk to you because you and i were systems thinkers so we can speak more meta terms but also please remind me to bring it back so that way. We don't get so so so look it and you problem go about identified the eighty twenty the twenty percent of the concept or the tool on the understanding such that we basically grasped crock eighty personnel. What's happening how do you go about really just like me. Jumping into crypto fintech. Or you go ahead and identify here are the twenty person is gonna make eight eighty percent of the the concept so are in science right. A lot of it is the experience of just seeing people. Say things and that doesn't pan out and you start to see those patterns so there's an art there of just instantly seeing this looks like that pattern starting to look like that my my answer is i go back to the feet on the ground so we talked about. Let's not be meta but talk about how people who are in a cold culture. Like where i've come from in the winter it can get to twenty below zero and if you get in a car and drive somewhere you have to have a project. Managers mindset to have the things in your trunk if you break down in a car cars breakdown you stuff happens. You don't survive. There's a very tangible thing. That's very very real. you're not in the matrix. You're not a simulation. You will freeze to death unless you get someone to come to you right away. This is how. I think it's very important. Same thing if you go if you come from farmland if you plant the seed and you are able to take care of that seat in the way that it needs to be taken care of you have food and you can feed the world right. The bread basket of the world type of of concept. So i find that one of the most important things is to never drink that kool aid so much. I get excited. I am a visionary along with you. Other people right we. We want to create and blazed trails. But the real eighty twenty comes from do my cousins who are not they might not have the technology background or whatever would they use this matter This really matter and it becomes like that you ex experience. but it's not the theoretical silicon valley. You ex-experience it's like. Does this really matter. Will this. Withstand the test of time so that my my father always told me right split at things things will come and go. Lots of things fads colts. Whatever but something that has withstood. The test of time should look at it whether you like religion or you like this look at it because it was stood the test of time for some reason if filled something and so that eighty twenty moment where i look at it and go i wanna farmer look at this. How would that really help them. Or how would a person that really just is living their life in training day date trying to do this or whatever like really. Why would they want to do this. Not because they were sold not because of the promotion not because everybody in their friends were doing at the time and all of a sudden five years later this whole thing is just. Everybody woke up and go went. Whoa what were we thinking but it was more of. Oh my gosh. So i can take certain things like the blockchain and i can start to make it travel. Meaning we talk about. Nfc's or we talk about different things. I can actually start to empower people. Let's say people who aren't banked and different countries like a lot of the world's in banked and i can not only empower them giving them a currency that's one thing they've had currency they backup. Intense on banked zine. They don't have a bank to put their money or the currencies that correct correct. Yeah a lot of the world is unbalanced which means they don't get to take loans or put their money in a bank. They go they work. They cash their check with a local person who takes a big chunk of that but they are performing services for them. But they're not in this scenario where it's like. Hey i want to take a loan to buy a house. I have some consistency or alone to buy a car or alone alone to start a business and so they're outside of that system and so they just that's the system that they live in and the way the system is currently right. Money is not smart. Money is not just have any utility other than the things i just talked about. A bank has only three basic utilities. I can taken hold your money like a vault. I can loan you money. I can have something where i alone you. At a certain way interest or whatever and so what is getting to the une banked side of things is. It can't look like the old world we know has a system that has been created. And that's where we are right now because they all have stocks. And we're under. We're in a bank. The un banked in this way we're going to create. we're going to use this old submit. We can't get to the new way before we like understand that there are things the old way. Great really great we've evolved. The systems of systems has evolved. But then there's a new way of being able to say what if i were to make money intelligent. What if i were to put program in money. So that if i had something like a collectible or i was mining something in some country no longer with another country come in take that and then make a lot of money with it now. I actually can put something like a crypto currency against it and i can also start to incentivize everyone who is in that value chain. Now that's the meta at all. The mouth of the value chain is who found the oil who found the gold who found the whatever did get incentivized because they're inside the compensation trail right and the same thing goes all the way down so that one person doesn't end up being the most wealthy in the current system because that's how current money it's dumb it. It's a dollar just travels in does its thing as opposed to can program. That dollar now gets interesting because we can utilize the old way. This is back to eighty twenty. You don't want to throw out the baby and the bathwater together. Just the bathwater is dirty. We're still here as people babies. So that's what. I was trying to say is you can now serve those who who are really not only meeting and be served but when they are served they add so much to the world so you are adding not just their ability to make money and in co have commerce. But you're adding a whole level of dignity to the life. They can basically be part of everything. That's out there as opposed to being pariahs in some ways. It sounds weird but it's like to a system that two people but to a system. Now i understand so you said a lot of council again. Let me actually backtracking recap okay. Of course yes. So what you said is when you look at a new problem. Eighty twenty s. You insider bind to the hype you really look at the core of it at the core of it. What is the first principle thinking. What is the utility value. My cousin or this everyday person use this thing because there is the utility value and there is the perceived value. Yeah all that stuff. A cypress devalue sale the hype aside utility value. Could this person use. And then you start to really look at it. In in terms of crypto as a as an example this is nothing more than a more recent mechanism shoe allow manage travel in addition to the alway are looking at money loaning money holding money passing money etc to now you can then embedded in itself. These smart contracts that way the everyone in the entire value chain there's more egalitarian above approach. More trackability approach in this unleash. The power from the bottom of the pyramids give him back more sovereignty so to speak dignities. Speak so that way. They're not no longer beholden to be to be outside of the current system. Is that roughly what you just said. Yeah it's roughly. how and. I liked the us sovereignty. I use it as well. It's a heady word. But i think that it's a powerful world word. If a person has experienced a level of freedom that says i can say what. I want songs hurting somebody and do what i want. Lots of a hurry. Somebody there's a level of wile unleashing human being so that that sovereignty is there and and human beings use money to see that sovereignty. I don't think it's the only thing for sovereignty. As in fact i think the mind is where most of the most of it all goes when it comes to you can have people in prison and they have their own sovereignty and freedom more than person way outside the prison and prisoners of war for example playing things their mind that they're so free compared to your normal person. That's in a corporation. I i'm a a slave to the system or whatever so yeah i think that sovereignty is a very powerful word to use and it is. It's a good goal to have but along with that sovereignty needs to come that level of responsibility. Alad that some very curious about word this drive to empower others do that. 'cause with every interaction i have with you bring a lot of. There's a horde desire to really empower others to to be free while there. S remind or financial. Were that strong desire. Come from i think it was when i learned the language it was. I wasn't even in germany and austria that long but it was just life altering for me. When i came back my father said how was it and i said i would give up years in prison for the last five months because experience a level of freedom that i've never experienced before i was kid saying that in college of course i would never want to go to prison and never even want to imagine what a human has to be going through when they go into prison but it was a very serious statement for me to make and i talk about this matrix and i talked about the matrix way before the movie. 'cause i thought about in math a matrix. It looks like tic tac toe like of basically lines that you're trying to solve again and make it much more efficient and you're following flows of energy or flows of numbers. And when you when you see them. they're all related. Some ways like sudoku is at the game you say. Yeah it's like you. You see how things can be related. And if you're one of those numbers in the middle of this giant multi-billion number sudoku game. How do you get free to seek outside. The game. And i was freed to see outside the game i was. I saw another culture. I wasn't beholden to all the rules. Of where i came from even though come from good people and all this great rules great people but they have their flaws they have. Everybody does this beside has its flaws to be. I was free to look and go. Oh my god. I was always worried about doing this. Being this way in society because these people would react in these people reacting. We'll get back to my father. Or whatever and i was stuck in this matrix and so being able to pull out of one matrix to another matrix allowed me to have that level of freedom and when i realized that was possible i said cheese. All human beings should have the opportunity to see that they're not stuck like they think they are right there. It's like human beings are like i s- towns dark but i think we're barreling down the road to really extinct ourselves really this zero sum game even in the universities and places where you think that people are supposed to be collaborating like a zero sum game and it was like bailing on the road that way. And there's a point where if someone can just allow person to get outside and go wait. There's this big picture here that you're stuck in that other world that if you just pull out you realize. This isn't the only way this isn't the this isn't the zero sum game isn't the only way to exist and so i think the biggest thing they're ck's that if a person tastes that level of freedom looks like it's almost a. It's a weird feeling but it's almost a duty or some kind of compelling because it's like i don't know to describe it would probably how people describe religion. I'm guessing it's like. Hey this i found god or whatever i want. I'm not smart enough to understand. God and religion but i can be smart enough to know that i did experience something where i was free from a matrix small period of time. Which allowed me to think differently and allowed me to understand that there must be billions if not more matrix matrices that are out there. And they all are all stuck inside their multibillion sudoku mosaic wrong. So whatever they're stuck in there and they don't realize that every time they make a move in like a spiderweb. It affects this thing over here and over here. They're stuck because there's so many layers and the older. The culture is different cultures. Have ancient Histories that's even a longer matrix. So you're even stuck inside a generational matrix matrices of matrices. So it's like. How does a person truly get free from that. There are ways. And that's the thing that all methods in the way i go about things. It's that luke's. Tom com night. They really have. It's a real ravenous curiosity of how what's another way or another thing we can learn. That will turn on the light over here. Turn light on for this person. Is that the theory. I have is. If i'm a light of sorts and i've been able to turn on say ten thousand lights and each one of those lights. I turn on whatever their greatness says. It's not the same as mine or at her but they turn on a thousand lights or ten thousand lights or more right now you have a mentality or mindset. That isn't about. I'm the light it's more of. How do i turn on lights. And then people get out of their own traps right. Then what do you do said in. The question becomes so if someone knows that you were in a game say the life let game of life was a game me one the game. Then what it's moment where you became president or whatever it is if you was at robert redford movie. The candidate i think it is. He rises to the point to that he he like. Shockingly all of a sudden what the role was. I don't think it was president at but at the end of the movie it was. Now what yeah. I won the game. And i now this important political figure wait a minute. What's next and i think that question is such a great question for people to get to in and so if you can get people to that question. They realized they won some game. And there's nothing more powerful than a person having that level of sovereignty going. Whoa okay. let's go to the what's what's next. Yeah in and be able to enjoy life better. Yeah man you really touch upon the core of wyeth started noble warrior in the first place because ultimately what we're coming at this freedom the sense of freedom in sense of sovereignty from multiple angles. And i interview different people. When they touched on it. They never arrived. There's always the it's infant game. You when you achieve financial freedom go after consciousness when maybe when bernie man or you have some creative epiphany the game doesn't end it continues forward but when we ask different people different capital questions. Come really grasp at it. Really come come at it talking about this eternal dow basically right like what is the sense of freedom. That's that's available to us any given moment whatever it is that you do and then more lights turn on and one thing that occurred to me after having done about one hundred twenty episodes hundred twenty similar conversations as this it's also this whatever ripple effect that we made when we have a conversation with someone turn on light. As you said earlier it's it's it's it's intergenerational. It doesn't stop so he keeps going whatever impact we make so thanks for sharing that bring him back to why i wanted to do. Noble war in the first place so with that said let's let's make it even more concrete crypto to me has vats financial incentive bilton if freedom since a freedom is ultimately what. We're going after unleashing the creativity than the dignity of the bottom of the pyramid and really everyone what mechanisms or in terms of fine tuning the incentives that you have come across that shows real promise to this idea that we're talking about. Have you come across anything. I think it certain to peak its head out. But i think it's mostly a if you think about a kid who has a new toy and they get to play with that new toy and has all these facets. I think that's what we're seeing right now and we are seeing. People become wealthy in crypto. Whatever that means have. I seen something that really can deliver on its promotion. I'd have to say i'm gonna it's gonna be hard. I'm sure some colleagues and friends or what are you kidding. But we have to be ourselves because the stakes are very important here that we are pulling the old world and we're building a bridge to it which we've built tirelessly to protect people to help people cetera. And i still see that. It's so new that people are mostly playing with this so you have collectibles. You have these things like lots of play. Lots of people trained to reinvent a bank trying to do things that find out the thing about it is in the systems that are out there you have to in order to make them work with regulations people do all these back flips and all these different things that are you have use this token this token they started this thing. Can this all mocks this. And then therefore you can pull this like what can just imagine how a person who doesn't have any background in technology or just any kind of systems thinking. I'd have to say that i don't see there are a few projects that have promise so. Let's talk about a theory. Them it has some real drawbacks still and we can talk about those because they have to be solved. But there is really something to be said around how it's decentralized if you really going to use decentralisation in that that concept and not talk about distribution a distributed systems decentralized systems and you can get to a place where country really can't control it or an entity can't control it. That's an interesting experiment that's gone on. Bitcoin can be like you could have a bunch of minors in one country such as china right. And if you have that capacity you can have a what's called a fifty one percent attack. You can essentially do something untoward when it comes to that network because you have a bitcoin. Purpose is to move a bitcoin. That was that's what sparked contractor. It's real purposes is to be able to move in transfer on a ledger bitcoin and unless simplified it a lot and people say l. but suffice it to say it's not programmable money and it's not pro programmable systems as well as it is a very hard to they call it mining but it's you only have to you have one specific type of computer and you have to be upgrading all the time. It's called a chip computer. And so all those are basically built in china as well so you have an cheating. Chinese has lived there he taught university. But you have one place that centralization if one place that basically builds all the chips minds it one place. That basically has most of the miners because the electricity is an expensive. And honestly i think they will people in china. We're way ahead of the game in understanding the value of this thing. But but then you have this therion thing and that you can mind with your phone you can. You have to have powerful computers as well but not on a sick because it kind of goes at the speed of light. It just does one thing. And that's all it does and it solves that one mathematical equation at cryptography. Then it sounds very much like the chinese culture really. Oh i would have to think about that statement. Do one thing when things. Yeah yeah so valuable to the world. Many perspectives that. I've learned in china but tip to not take that tangent bait the the project would be. I think that is around true discentralising where they can start to solve the problems that are caused by that so if your listeners and people listening to this i don't have the technical background. Their are problems that cause for example. It takes an immense amount electricity to use the network decentralized network. It's proof of work. You prove that your computer the work and you to the work because you're pumping a lot of literacy and different systems like gp's and your graphic ca graphics cards and things like that. They take minimum out of work for example. Let's say nine hundred fifty was a watt. So if you have nine and a half one hundred lightbulbs burning all the time twenty. Four seven you're bringing that level of energy in in in the system and and and that's just one computer right so we have several of these these farms of these. You could just guess how much electricity being used. So that's a problem but it can be solved because more money gets put into this. The more innovation can happen. But you still. You can't look away from it and say no but because a general processing unit a gpu or whatever you can use a regular computer they could be all over the world one country is not going to have the market on it and so you might have some things around electricity but for the most part you have a decentralized system that actually could function and that's what it's done in some ways where people have built like businesses on the theory network and that's why i see it as a very powerful system and an my espousing people go invest in the three of. No they have their problems. There's all kinds of things that are there. There's all kinds of other things that are coming along the way. But nobody has really done anything that allows this promise of decentralisation to really happen except for theorem in my opinion and i think there's better technologies honestly but they don't have the user base and therefore i've seen this over years. Though the decades technology comes and goes it could be the best out there. It doesn't mean it's gonna win it matters if people are adopting and working with you in innovating on your network and doing the things that are necessary. So i guess if i had any answer which i probably shouldn't it would be something that would be utilizing the whole point of what blockchain is trying to espouse and make it useful. Obviously when i hear the tell the future was just speculating everyone else. You know what we're looking at it from a systems thinker point of view. So me backtrack. Let's look at some of the unique properties of blockchain. Let's look at fundamental in. you mentioned. Maybe it's worthwhile to mention some of those interrupted interoperability. Some of those things. Can you mentioned eulogies. Yeah yeah and in technology like in cloud and when you're building Different large enterprise systems. The ila are as its scale ability. Right is it. Is it interoperable. Interoperability security ignorance. It what are they things that you need. In order to make sure that system functions in the way that the users will be able to actually work with so scale ability blocking has that so if you have a copy of whatever. The ledger is across. Every computer in the world can at scale and it's proven it can scale enough and so therefore all people can continue to build their businesses or build a new ideas and these smart contracts all over the place all over the world doing all kinds of different things because all smart contract is is a program saying. I'm giving you instructions when you come to me. And something met behaviors met that you can move through an execute on these instructions and its complete. Meaning they call it turing complete. And the idea is that it's the next illegi would be immutability right. What that means is once it's touring complaints like compiled code. It's out there and there's no kind of tearing it back you you could say i'm not gonna use it anymore or whatever but you basically have created this being that is sovereign if you will and goes out there now i think it still is not is immutable as everybody thinks. However immutability is one of the ila and so the concept of blockchain. Is that the more we put blocks. In the blockchain the more secure it can become because you are calling back to different blocks in that blockchain and you have to solve for x again and again is just gets further and further layered. So what immutability mean is. Hey once it's on that blockchain. Let's say something happened a year ago on the theory of network. I go to either scan. And i could check out that transaction and i don't necessarily need to see the person's name but i see the wallet address. The technical address that happened from this to that and i can see what occurred meaning. It's on a ledger too. Big ledger in the sky. Or whatever it's like this thing that is forever more so it's immutable in in theory. And so i keep saying that because can't be hacked. Maybe but if it's not hacked and the security is getting better and better and you know that this ledger you count on it then you start to realize hey nobody can fiddle with the numbers like you can with a centralized system. It's a centralized system. Say i don't know if you've seen like movie office space or something where the guy has a server in. He changes some parts of it so he gets a fraction of a penny that sent to his bank account so no one necessarily notices. He's doing that from a centralized server. He's going in to the program and he can change. Databases can change people's names. You could change things and systems. Yes there are controls in corporate environments but so hard you could change things is not immutable right. Let's not go down that rabbit hole. A scale ability immutability. What's next interoperability. I think that's going to be the key one. As a matter of fact. I can't probably come up with all the ts in the morning here but interoperability. Because let's say you have you have the ability to use smart contracts as long as someone has a technical system like they call a wallet. It's not like your build or whatever it's not that kind of wallet. It's a technical programme that allows you to recognize and basically hold your ledger. Your copy of your ledger. So that you can say to the world. I can interface with blockchain. You can recognize me but that's really important because if you've ever traveled in other countries and you try to use a credit card that you can use the united states and you can't use your credit card in that country you're really in trouble. Do you have their currency now. Did bring a currency with me doing exchanges. Oh what do you do. 'cause you're not interoperable ability to travel so when you have you. Have you have this traveling capability in describing it the the the these different standards right so e or c twenty as a standard. If you have a wallet ears he twenty you basically use that standard to interrupt interoperable be inter operate and. Let's use the world for example. Let's say there's a marketplace ally ebay but it's its own marketplace that is for entities and i list i create a smart contract basically created t. That's ear see twenty compliant but theory to theory network. I can listed on that marketplace. If i'm not satisfied with that marketplace all my data and listing. I could taken put it somewhere else or i can sell it to someone else outside that marketplace. As long as it's still my property. If i put it in the marketplace and it gets resold that's a whole thing but the point is that you have freedom because i'm not just stuck with if i listed on amazon i i had to go through all the stuff i listed on amazon. I come out of amazon and go on ebay easily. It doesn't come out of ebay and go onto fc or whatever it doesn't these are different centralized systems that don't allow them to inter operate with each other. In this case i can take this entity this asset and move it so if you take the other entities that you're pointing out before is liquidity traceability liquidity. just says. Are there people out there doing this. Are there people that are actually trading. It is there enough people in this network where they're buying what you're selling and if there's not they're not liquid so therefore you created this great thing. Oh my god is great technology in the world. But nobody's using. This is what i say by theorem so important. There's so many people using it. There's so many people interacting with this thing. They're building all businesses on this thing. So if i know. That's the case. And i know that people are out there buying it now liquid and i can have these marketplaces where i can put it on a marketplace. And if it's not working it's not liquid enough. I pulled off the marketplace. And i put it on the marketplace interoperable so i can do that or someone else in say china as a wallet that has ears. He compliant i can go ahead and they can buy it easily and put it on their wallet. So it's none of this kind of like a problem. Where are you. In yuan are am i an. Us dollar we in the yen but this not bad. It's like. I basically have this consistent a network and then you bring up trade ability to. Let's take a step back when we talk about trade ability. There's the fungible world in the non fungible world and for people don't know the difference. There's a related easily. Describe it a fungible token or fungible currency is consistent. I know that. If i give you a dollar you can give me one hundred pennies back. I would not prefer it would be heavy. Ofi clunky but i always know that one hundred pennies will make up that dollar or four quarters. You could give me four quarters. It's fungible it. I know that. I can trade you this for that. Whereas the non fungible world is really it stands on its own so that means if i have a ticket to a. What's a concert. what's a group. You like music whenever let's say. Whatever the whatever's yes. You wonder. I'm going to stevie wonder concert. That's great and coachella coachella this year right and so i got this ticket and and so that tickets were so much to you so much. You bought it for a couple of hundred dollars. Four hundred dollars or whatever it is nowadays right but it's worth it. It's like the old credit card company. Forgot who is priceless. It's if those if there were only so many of those tickets sold and you knew they were all sold out and someone come to king to you and said hey man. I'll give you ten grand for that because it's a subjective. Right is the non fungible. Subjective you'll like no. I wouldn't take a million dollars for this because it's so valuable to me. I'm going to go to this thing. So now you have a non fungible world. I can't break up that that coachella ticket. I can't say okay you don't want. If you give me million for half elit were good in it. Said of the pennies in the quarters. You have the dollar. It's not going to be able to be broken up so it really travels as this tradeable asset this thing that trades and it trades in a way where whatever the market says. It's worth the you. Follow me so far. Fisher got so when trade abilities there. It's is this tradeable. And how was it. Tradable if it's tradable is a fungible thing let's easy like bitcoin. The theorem so bitcoin's coins a great example. They're broken up into saito. She's thinking it was the pennies of bitcoin. You get there's always a certain number of soto. she's per bitcoin. And so i can trade you numbers associated for numbers of something else but mostly it's just it's fungible. It can flow people back to a linguistics right currency current flow. You have there's this aspect that's there. That's why when people say t's are non fungible token currency. I go it's not about currency it's about that ticket. It's about that collectible about that. Maybe a d. to your house. It's this thing that you can't break it up but you still can trade it so back to the idea of interoperable and liquid. Now i can actually put it out there. And i can trade it for something else so i don't necessarily need to say a trade. Us dollars for my coachella ticket. For stevie wonder i'll trade you bitcoin. Or i'll trade you another ticket. That i didn't realize was even more valuable to me but it was less valuable to you so barter system. So there's a trade ability factor there so the are so important because when you put them all together now you have left the world that was talking about earlier. Which is the system that we currently reside in is money. Doesn't do anything this the dollar build. I'm looking at right now. it's dumb. it doesn't know what it's supposed to do. It just sits there. And i give it to somebody in they give me candy or are they give me something they give me some boot and in this case now i have a system with all these ilise. I have a system also can program that money to say win. This particular person receive or this type of person in this business receives you. Then you release these many things or you give them this and you also are allowed to that person when they have. It are allowed to transfer it and make money on this. And oh by the way that person will always have a royalty to you if you're the original creator. Let's say recruiter of art. So i can program dollar. Yeah the well let me do a quick recap because we cover around just now rise super nerdy and now the guys who was watching this super nerdy. But what keith is pointing to. And this is the reason why i wanted to focus on this. Very specific features of the blockchain technologies this the founder of wax a nasa question of. How do you evaluate the possibility of what blockchain this. He's he gives a very cryptic answer he said. Oh you just look at. What blockchain allows you to do better than traditional occurrence. Other things are very smart. Answer actually the so then. What that actually reminds me of what you just said these type of ila tease because those are the unique features of the blockchain technology What what that allows if you think about it from these are the features. What are the combination of these. Things allows the everyday i have neo joe schmo to do something better with their life. That's when new application new possibility. New discovery invasions happens. That's why i'm spending so much time we to ask these questions of a what is unique about this particular technology. Is that a good recap show where you said. Yeah think williams said at one sentence what i just spent twenty minutes saying one of the things back bringing it back to. Why mass and thinking if everything in math is well cryptography. His math uses math. And i remember when i was studying linguistics. This is going to be helpful. I know i guess it is nerdy. i i just. I live in my world sometimes but valid nerd here in linguistics. There is a fellow in sit wrote a lot in the space and he also started writing a lot another spaces which was interesting. But his name's noam chomsky. I think he's still alive. One of the things that blew my mind was. Let's say you're in a language only has been words or one hundred thousand words saying wish i forgot. How many has it has a lot of words but some languages have a lot less but he pointed out combination theory like the more variables you have and the more those things can be mixed up the more chance. You have an infinite like literally he he point to infinity so an english language. There's infinite ways. I can make a sentence therefore said the probability of someone uttering the same sentences i just uttered are very low because we're swimming in infinity so the more that you have the more you can mix them up in combinations so to your point. Some things like cloud and ebay. Yeah they're tradeable and the new york stock exchange. That's liquidity you. Have these illegalities in different places. But do you have the program ability. Do you have this so when you put all those together and you can start to put them in their own little recipe right so you have the combinations and you realize that combination has a use like williams said it's a it has a use that you go wait. Cloud can't do that and this can't do that so therefore this is different. Then you ask the question. Does anybody care is if functional is it. Does it offer utility value by may most of the time now. It's we have a bunch of people who can market it well and influencers jump in and do lots of great things and every goes whoa and then it's the off to the next thing that shiny thing and then you're done and you're moving on so things so most of the time one really cares not really valuable all and and then the other thing is in order to make it work. They have to centralize things more and more see. Lose that and so there's that idea don't look over here. The man behind the curtain but look over here. What i told you is the valuable thing that we're doing. Say the key. Is that if you can make that recipe work right in the combinations that are necessary and someone actually cares. It's really valuable. Then you're in a enabling the things that we talked about such as when we talk about problems of the on banked all the real problems that human beings truly face that they don't have to be super technical but you realize you help them solve problems. Actually this reminds me of if we have we. Let's say we have six different abilities. You said let's just say case we can essentially do a permission of all these different combinations and look look at all of the projects that's out there and put them under the different really used that as a way to brainstorm. Hey we can put this in this bucket which ones actually have the most traction most user base use that as a rubric as a way to say. Hey that maybe a emerging that we should pay attention to. Let's put some energy resources. People whatever research behind it such that to help it grow along the way. Are there people looking at this in that systematic way or are there better ways that system's thinker can actually right away for help the wave or pedal before other people do. That's obviously a critical thinking exercise. I've i don't know if people are doing it through their analysis it would make fun It makes it fun as analysis because critical thinking. We don't have to do critical thinking when we only have two options. But the more variables. You use the more chances. That problem has no real solution and has variance of waited solutions right. So when you're talking about these variables and you can start to look at the different things you're talking about. You can have a critical thinking analysis process. That i think would be very interesting to see that you start to see. Wow eighty twenty looks like program. -bility and inoperability are really key or whatever and so the projects that are associated with that are these and look what took off and look what didn't take to take off and then do some more critical thinking analysis about what parts of that allowed things. Take off and not take off. See start to see patterns across the board and could be very fun to see that kind of critical thinking analysis done but no. I don't do that. I don't do that. I i at what i think again. I tried not get lost in as you call the nerdy stuff and try to get back to the feet on the ground farmer or person. Pack in the car and it's going to be freezing cold. Why do i care in real life and most of the time. I don't most of the time as i said hype junk not really valuable. The beginning of something the hope star wars thing like a new hope or whatever. It is very early on and lots of people playing with new toys. Let me ask you a question about a as it. Systems thinkers and as as an architect really looking at. Because you're looking far ahead. You're looking like secondary effec- tertiary effect. And how does that actually not satisfied. Curiosity the toy playing of the elites by rather. Actually how does it actually benefit a farmer in sub saharan in africa. Things like that. How do you go about doing that. Do you sit in. Think about the secondary tertiary fact that way are there are in regular communications with people in terms of network of conversations that they may have. Maybe there's a particular community with pent up passion and then you're like. Oh yeah here's maybe a widget. Or i made by blockchain that can potentially help that passion. Like how do you go about thinking about disciple. Things as a systems thinker. Yeah there are definitely methods that i use their semi critical thinking just a moment ago. I think a lot of times. It's just going around in the world and seeing problems. I've been that way since i've been a child and and so if i see a problem it's not necessarily just a problem. It could be an opportunity. And so the more people that i talk with especially people in business or in a place where people are trying to get something done. So i've been lucky enough to be able to consult with lots of businesses or work in lots of businesses inexperienced different ways of getting things done as as all the problems that they're trying to solve to be able to sell something usually what you're selling something you're solving something. Hopefully if not you will be around for all of whatever months. And it's going to be over but i don't think i come at it from some kind of scientific thing i would say that life itself is just this a lot of things where i'm learning constantly and keeping my mind open constantly back to linguistics. Well aware of the lacking nature of any form of human language to really to grasp what's going on like they're they're the real stuff that's happening in the real ability to communicate. They're all through a whole communication theories out there. That say he beings never have communicated which really interesting but they should be. They should be understood in the fact that it's very hard to To actually understand what each other may be saying and especially when there's a problem being expressed so i think more of because of the way i've overcome problems that i've talked about that. It's a factor of when. I find a way where i see. The there isn't away at communicating to the others. They're coming after me or whatever. That's the case so i don't think i have an answer for you when it comes to have a tried and true process. I'm just living life as how. Yeah meandering through life. But i i am living life and i'm definitely picking up all the pieces i possibly can to sense make and then when i sense make i share it. Yeah certainly that was more of a so crowded inquiry more than anything else about what does it actually take to come at it. 'cause bring a buyer you had said keep creates a bridge between organizational human cultures in one of the things. That's really clear to me. This reminds me of a quote. I can't remember says about author was really brilliant. Says commerce is the ultimate language for peace. I don't know is commerce still to languish piece of. I mean that's one man's perspective right one person's perspective and to me that makes sense in that if it aligns incentives right so if you can actually create prosperity and then that's what's going to maintain peace ultimately in my mind is the most simplistic sense. And then your passion for fintech for a blockchain creates that bridge that mechanism between different cultures geographic or otherwise as a way to create this collaborative environment. So yeah i think a commerce you have to qualify things right because it win lose. Commerce no that creates will her Is this with someone that they think you you lost. They won and that's how they play. Then guess what. You're the polar in business. They're suing each other or so. I would be careful with certain types of saint statements. I think as milan kunia what he wrote. The unbearable lightness of being right and his purpose was to make sure they help you understand that. When you're 'cause it's about cults the way i read it but it was. The aspect of human beings are human systems are not analogies and metaphors even though metaphors and analogies are extremely important to us to be able to get the point across because again we're lacking in communications. Fortunately languages that idea of making sure that we don't make it too. Simple is very important and i think it's it and he was pointing out that the reason that bad governments came in and it was i think it was communism he was pointing at the time or was basically took people's freedom and they did it by causing people to have these analogies in saying man like a chair and it was like no man is man as soon as i got you into that world of metaphor meta got you into this space. The dream space. I can do a lot with you. This is back to. I think the digital transformation so important to have the right architects the right guy as or whatever in it because you can absolutely go way off kilter. If you're not just not careful if you're not vigilant every step of the way right if you're not like i've got to be on this. I got to be on this. And so who is like that. In life most time it's cruise control so yeah commerce piece or is the best way to peace. I think it's a nice beginning. But i also believe that back to all these entities. Let's start giving it flavor. Let's start expanding on what type of commerce so we create systems that if you mess with those systems you destroy the fabric of civilization. That might be something right. If you create something between a countries that are at loggerheads right now china. Us whether they are going to be real loggerheads or they're not but you create a system for the to where their interests align commerce wise soul much. Does this or that. does that really fall. That's right now. That those ila teas that can be programmed in that system. Now that's interesting that now. That has that's useful it's useful because then you and i will know. Hey we're not gonna be bombed and we're not gonna be bombing and all this crazy stuff that human beings like to do with each other to figure out a guess. I often know understand lately. But whatever why people go to war if you really dig into it. You're going you thinking. Yeah it's more about ego than than actual the collective value creation ultimately when i said what i said. Why been brought it up. That's what happened. Might this intertwine synergistic coexistence alternately. We all live on this planet as you appointing to earlier if we actually destroy the ecosystem just so that we can have the maximum monetization whatever. It's really dumb. Because he live in the same lifeboat. Let me give you an example. It's very dark. it's very true saying is like what's some of the best not the best the most successful commerce out. There is not good right it so it's human trafficking especially children. This is a this is a people. See it as an asset. So that's commerce right but that does not lead to a good place. If you're you know enslaving the human being. Do whatever you want them to do. And it's big business. That's why i want to qualify those things just like me. Coonawarra talked about the importance of qualification. In there is something to be said about systems within systems but back to the mathematical. Mind you're solving for the simple equation that someone arrived at laws as pascal or some-. Somebody arrived at this equation. But the way man you really do have to have the level of. How did we get here in. I use this axiom this corollary this mindset and i break it down and i say well we can switch this thing out with this and all of a sudden. I've proved all i got from point. A. to point whatever z. And so i would say that point is commerce least two piece z. Is whichever it is. But it's very important to understand that you need to qualify. Yeah so if you don't mind let's actually segue bit because then that you hugely passionate about men's were consciousness work in addition to technologies of worth what are some of the ways because one of the things that we do talk a lot on this pockets a lot is when make what we are ultimately whatever we make externally technology business when his asians effort projects otherwise stems from the way we think whatever we make would be a amplification of our consciousness. So for you. Here's no no you're deepen consciousness work and what are some of the ways to really find tune your own consciousness as was consciousness of alvin when ization soc that you could be as you said earlier vigilant always to make things from conscious the space rather than just in cruise control as you alluded to earlier so long subject but it's it's one is very important because most of life is a human beings are in this irrational state. We're in a body and we're animals and we have the things that you know. Come up with animals from fighting fighting sex all the different things that human beings go through an interesting thing is if we were to be just in our heads we probably always moving five steps forward but then all of a sudden we break up with someone in their ten steps back to the emotional world is so important completely can just atomic bomb the mental or the the nerdy world is. You're calling before and then the most loving way. Because i'm a nerd myself so that's cool. No that's all good. Hey labels are cool. And i actually honored to be called that. I don't see myself as that. I often see myself as very dumb. Because i just don't understand everything and so everything doesn't fit together and like i just feel stupid all the time but i don't beat myself up for it is go capelin. Let's figure this out some sense banking and so part of that. Men's work and part of that whole how do we. How do you look at even buddhism. And because we're talking about what is in your brain manifest injured. Ezra destiny right there. The eightfold path in buddhism. That is very important that you could start again. So it's like a mathematical proof if you start here. And it's a thought and it becomes a word that it becomes a deed and he gives a destiny. Those are all great but the power of life is experiencing it in my opinion and it's ago back in high school we try. They try to have us read shakespeare. I hate it. I was like. What is this right. The slings and arrows of life in the blah blah on. Because i hadn't lived life i don't have i didn't have those experiences. This is very deep wisdom into shakespeare. And so you have all these adults coming at you going. You've got to the kids. You've got to understand shakespeare and blah blah blah and like. What the heck are you talking about. And then you live life you go through breakup. You go through things ironed from job. Whatever happens all the things that happened to people lose parents lose someone special gain some special all those things and you start to experience them directly and you go. Oh my god. Chicks really cool. There's something here. And i think that one of the problems people have or i have had. I've had as well as trying to understand something that i don't i've never experienced and then giving advice on it. That's even better. You have coaches coach you but have you been to that before no but i can coach you to get to the top of the way. What's at the top of the mountain. I don't know like what kind of coach are you. Okay your coach to make me work out. So i can get to each plateau the mountain. That's cool but if you're a coach issue senior a coach here we've just drank our kool-aid and i get it. You had to have your website up but let's not play this game with each other so men's work there are different movements that have happened through life. There was a women's movement very important and so there was a reaction how the world would behave and men started to start to look at themselves in the behavior. They had in some of the very very negative behaviors. They had and examine them and they became almost the other pendulum. A lot of people that had a reaction to the women's movement had a reaction over here and quashed or squashed or whatever the other parts of being a man. So what happened is they went all in this pendulum which made them like the column in the new age man or whatever there's all kinds of labels but the point is they weren't being authentic. They weren't being who they were. And so the men's movement grew and the men's movement was said. What a man. Is this macho thing that some cultures say that. I'm in pain. no. I'm not. I'll never know. Never go to the doctor. I'm too strong and i'm forever this tonight. i'm bureau. I'll show you pictures on facebook. Because i'm really feeling problematic so i'm in the gym and i'm here. Is that what a man is. Is that somebody who basically is just trying to live the caricature what a man might be at the same time. What was valuable. What was really valuable about being a man so those things. They're not taught to us. We usually go through life fathers. Try to pass on the sons the best they have of knowledge wisdom but it gets lost because the father was perfect in the father had their issues and they passed on their issues and so the tribe of men do have a need to have their their ability to be with each other so that they can actually say. What does this mean. And what are your feelings about. It and realized that vulnerability and feelings could be more powerful than i am the guy who super aggressive and i don't smile and i don't do anything. So how do you get to that place. You own your emotions. You sit in a group of men who call you out when they see you not being authentic. They not mean about it but they're like look. You've given permission to call you out and i'm hearing you tell me this great story about how wonderful you are. A wonderful life is just wonderful. You've used the word wonderful like fifteen times in the last three sentences. What's up with you. What's just wonderful in. What was that one fellow that wrote that one book if you see the buddha on the of the road kill him fella scrapbook basically. It's the man who sits there and he's got that smile on his face but it's so inauthentic he's got that buddhist mile okay and so the movement was there to say look check in with yourself that smiles. Maybe you're in raged your freaked out your whatever you're acting like i'm gonna go my flowers and i'm going to do this and i'm just everything's great and i'm just at peace. I'm gonna sit down in my field of pretty flowers. And i'm just going to contemplate the universe and so it's the that's bs. Life is messy being a humanist messy. That's what shakes her was about being all. This is really messy. So how do you deal with that mess. If you have a tribe or if you have a place you could share your mess with if you will or people can actually help you call out that mess. Then you start to become realizing that you're telling story we talk about telling stories like why are you caught up in the story when you should be caught up in your feelings checking with your feelings. What are you feeling. We talk about mad sad. Glad you're shane. I feel these other feelings. You don't want. Let's put you in a box little bit. What are you feeling. What's a real feeling. And then you realize fear. Total fear or anger or people who have ingredients properly said nece. That was the same person. Fifteen minutes ago is going wonderful. Wonderful wonderful and then you dig and you realize this person is in a very bad place in life for themselves personally and have a ton of money. They have whatever but they're so sad so angry and they don't have the mechanisms to deal with it regularly pay. I finally saw my sadness. I'm healed. i'm enlightened in. It's done no tomorrow. You show up in life happens to you again. And if you don't have that mechanism at check in it can just build up and build up and then life is just wonderful and so if you follow this consciousness movement for me again is back two feet on the ground. And i know you'll you like to recaps. I think that's really cool out. So let's give this idea. Here is their sole work. Their spirit work spirit worse. So when consumer work yeah spirit. Work is sexy. It's the thing that gets put on the big billboards. Leave this thing and you will go to this place in the sky or river is. It's really got spirit. Work is that's really cool. And i feel wonderful altogether and we're singing and mankind has and kind is together in a circle dancing around that spirit work between all the spirit work is like feeling angry. That seoul work is in the mud. The dirt guts. The pain the real ugly parts of that stuff that we deny repress hide what carl jung talk about as being shadow shadow work and so so work. It's just as it's the opposite of spirit work. it's like unsexy it. It's like a if he's in a circle of men he screaming his mouth often cussing and he's just as that soul work. That's getting to your soul in really rich getting out and understanding. What's going on with you. Where are you and are you going to die before you actually face the fact that your soul is in torment wiser toll soul in torment. Because you're sitting there smiling or you sitting there telling people story are showing people story on your facebook or whatever that you know is not true is not authentic and not aligned so both work is very important of course. The human work is very important but i find that the sole work. Just like in the crypto space and all the stuff. That's where you're on the ground that's where the bs walks and if you yourself in a community that allows you've given permission to say bs then you have real fighting chance of having a life. That actually is well worth it. Lived real fighting chains. That's that's well lived in you qualify. What's lift i think. That what socrates says. What is the point of life in a life. Well lived or something like that qualifying. It is no thyself. What that says is forget which to. At the foot of the acropolis. I wherever it is in greece. And what it's really saying is don't know thyself. Hey i'm a doctor. i'm these things. No that shadow know who you are. And therefore you're going to you're actually going inhabit that body so a white a life well lived is where you're not sitting there go train to go on some trip right. That's the spirit work where you go on a trip off into the ether. And hey you travel through the cosmos and all these things that people in spirit work dudes. Okay wow wow that's amazing you know not even from this planet. Wow that's amazing here. Tell me which planet you're from that spirit work. i'm just. I'm able to go across the cosmos as cool soul. Work is like all right. I gotta go to work. And i hate my boss and or whatever and so it's i'm i gotta walk there. My car broke down. And so i have the dirt. That's there so life a life that is well lived. Is you have a reality check going. Okay i'm here. i now. This is my life as you said it manifest exactly how my brain what my thinking processes and if i'm clean clear about that if i want a different life than i know what to do i'll change my thinking process l. Change where i walk. I'll change these things as opposed to spirit work. You can't do that and spirit work by the way is rife with the calls. Soul work you. It's good luck chronic. China's sneak in there because you're constantly re examining yourself and each other all the time to just make sure that whatever is on expressed is has its opportunity to be there so that you can be present of what you really are who you really are. Yeah so quick recap what you said just now to me. I can't remember what it is. A life on examines not a life worth living so to me very much about introspection personally. His white noble warriors started just really with the desire of. What does it actually take to live. And to create a future of fulfillment impact. Also it's to me. That's what matters to me. So i talked various people to really examine as you said the light and shadow work right to me. In reminds me of the buddhism. Principle of the source of suffering is not accepting reality is it is right is grasping for the positive motions or -verting the negative ones that you don't want so there's a great parallel to what you just said. And ashley. how do we actually live our life embracing all of it. Feel all of it. So i really loved how intentional you are really about as you call it the sole work. The shadow work really embrace all of it versus just pretending nas not. They're denying that and they're ignoring altogether. What you'd also says you put yourself in a community where the men that you're with the community you're with are willing to take that risk to shine a mirror on you and say hey. Here's what's really going on from a compassionate space. Nothing judgmental space. Here's what you said that you want. Here's what you say you are committed to buy. Are you seeing these things that you're not worth. Yeah that a rough recap of any other men. That's right why do you think this is important for vision for visionaries for people that are building the future of society technology when ization communities and so forth. What do you think this work is important. I'm my opinion spending curious. Know your thoughts. Visionaries leader and lee is an ancient where it came from china. But it's three monkeys like one has hands over his ears ones his eyes and wonder over his mouth. And it's the speak and here and see no evil or something to that effect. I always think about that. It's like a monkey. See monkey do human beings if a person if you see people who have children and they tell their children not to do this. But they're doing it. The children will grow up to be just like them no matter what humans want to believe when they look at leaders they look at parental figures. Just how they operate now. Sovereignty lousy them operate outside that more more right when they start to have that freedom that you don't necessarily need father figure but leaders are that they have your attention. They are blazing a trail and should they live a life that they say that their life is very different than the what. they're selling no matter what they're selling. The people will follow that life. Can so you can have this. Cult of personality comes from right so all these different things. So i would say that i think the most important thing for leaders. When you're saying you're checking your Is to understand that no matter what you say and whatever is out there monkey see is monkey. Do what can they then. It begs the question. What kind of world do you want. Do you want a world that is stealing each other's ideas backstabbing going from one relationship to another and and then going out there and being cool right that the world you want. Because that's who who's gonna follow you. All your influencers will be created that way. Every people will follow your lead. And so if you're a real trailblazer and you say what kind of world do i want live. This is where the men's were came in like model be the model b the monkey. That says. i'm gonna walk this talk. I'm going to be in places in that. Allow me to reflect. Even when i can't see myself. And i'm also going to be in a place where my business model is going to be one. That people can see me what i'm doing. So that when they copy. I don't create a world of absolute chaos and zero zero-sum. So that's hard to come by edge. I you have to do your work. You personally have to do your work if you wanna blaze a trail and most people. I'm not done doing my work. I think. I'll never be done but the point is that if you have the olympic torch and you never let it go down you never go out so on a day by day or minute by minute basis that you're you're thinking this way than other people will. You're modeling. that behavior in other people will see. Hey you have an okay life. You seem to be happy. Seem to be actually truly okay. Like i'm looking for that. So i wanna be like that and then there's that but unfortunately what leaders have often is the the promotion and you look behind the scenes and you realize. Oh my god. This person is not something i would like. I told you that it's like if you go into go. Some place at someone says do you trust them. I wouldn't trust them with a a room of whatever fifteen year olds or something. You know exactly the type person you're dealing with you know and so human beings have this. This is who i'm showing you. And they don't realize who they're showing really issuing their shadows and people will follow it it's it seeps out so you're saying wait. One appearing is no matter what to our best effort to hide. People's you right through. You is what you're saying. The for the people with discerning is they could see right through one of our mask that people take on. Yes it for a while. We talked about the so cryptos. A great example or different places. People could be blinded because god. This is amazing. The promises so amazing and you see people representing the promise. You go wait. So they're promising freedom but over here it's not or they're promising this and their their life this way and it's so the it's just like our politicians we see it but we do this the germany they do. This is just like even though i see it. I'm blind to it. I have. I keep my eyes open. I'm just i just. I go right through it. We know that politicians do the things constantly that we see that they're doing we go. Oh my god. I saw upset that they don't cheated on their reifer. Bob lower. There's poems about this like ancient points. This is what happens when people get into different positions. Now people do. Their work are different. But they're few and far between and they're really important the trailblazers in the visionaries that you're talking about being so so here's a follow up question for you and this is want to make a personal for you. I am a system's thinker. And i'm very discerning. I like to think about things multiple angles and one of the criticisms that i receive from my more entrepreneur friends who is all just. Don't think too much as do it. And their criticism to me is hey. Ck is more important to take action this in when the opportunities there when the actual impact is there versus really trying to take a very discerning space because then it's easier to miss the opportunity altogether. It's easy to get into analysis paralysis right so the people that are meyer is. Here's a clear vision. I'm gonna just land a man on the moon without really knowing how we're going to get there. They're very bold very courageous. They're willing to just declare what they wanted to do. And just do whatever it takes to get their curious as a fellow system's thinker someone who is also very discerning about doing the right thing and in doing the moral thing per se. How do you go about. Just just be more bold. Be more courageous. Be more just. Hey let's throw the hat over the wall mixing Metaphors all over the place. But you get what i'm saying. How do we just do that. Is there any sort of practice or disciplines or things like that you cultivated over time to just we shall be there. Go talked about them. Yeah if you do your work and all the things i was talking about all that's upfront. So yeah there's a lot of front but once it's done you ask yourself the question. Am i willing to take this risk. There's a technique called war. What's at risk won't go through the technique itself but basically it's your life is the way it is here and you want to over here. You want this different life. And how do you get there. Actually there's something standing in between there's a risk what's at risk then you the key question. Are you willing to take that risk. That's not a thing that takes a long time. So if you've done your work you understand who you are what you're about and you see all these opportunities floating around and you go. What do i lose. What's at risk you take it. Go take don't you find your way through it and you might find that. There's a new risk the happens same process. And then you don't lose yourself because it's easy to lose yourself. Destroy caution to the wind. Yeah no because there's homey reasons no but moving fast isn't as a matter of fact. I think there's a one mentor of mine that always said slowdown to go fast. So if you do your work up front then you can go super fast because you have a system by its nature. I train people on systems. Right what is this system. If i have one thing that impacts another a system now the chances are likely the other will impact another t impact another. So there's this level of impact but also systems have aims. Why is that important. The clear your aim is what you want. The more chance you're going to create a system that will support that. Aim the less clear. You are the more chance you're going to have a dysfunctional system because your aim is wherever like shooting arrows and you have no targets thrown them right up in the air and hoping something hits hopefully not a person. Somebody's at right systems. Have a name and if you could take on that kind of principle because it's a real principle is then you should make your systems that matter not also things need a system by the way but things that really matter think about him. Think about what thing leads to another thing impacts another thing and this person if you say this and all that stuff and how you can work that system in the same thing goes for think in what your question about commerce and business opportunities it becomes a game And if you have this aim that's clear. Then you create a system for it and you execute just click switch as much is that is. Just go do it. But if you're aims on clear You're gonna have a dysfunctional system. Yeah like a relationship the same thing if you don't have an aim for that relationship if you don't have a system with that relationship chances are you will have a dysfunctional relationship. Yeah yeah one. More question will why. Yeah so one more question. So what are some of the tools that you've come across of philosophical idea. Maybe like getting things done or is that oh cast on your own things like that. That's the latest thing that i'm geeking out about. Because ed or me to create a container a system and then we'll flexible very minimalistic. So what are some of the things for you to be able to contain this consciousness that you have an as a way to empower you to build a future. They want a build. Yeah yeah there are definitely systems like if agile systems and lean systems thinking something called kanban you can create a board like trello board. Don't over think it. But it's the idea of how you could track anything's don and then when you have a ability to take some of the learnings that you have from the things you get done you can put them into a system like subtle costume or a notion or different systems. That are out there but at the end of the day it's a how do i track in find knowledge. That's in one place. I still haven't completely figured that one out because knowledge is all over the place. We have this document or these places and all that but at the end of the day. It's still it's like being in your house known exactly where that item is. That's how i live my life. So i tried to like someone says. Hey we're is. Where's this thing that you used to have a ten years ago. I can go right into my garage. I can go right into the place. Grab it here. You go and they go. What the heck and it's the same kind of attitude so the agile system kanban system staying focused on doing one thing at a time like we're doing right now. Combat has a rule like you only can do one thing at a time so aboard right in aboard is pay. These are all the things you wanna do. But you don't have implant columnist as these are the things i have planned to do today. Make it these done. I'm commit myself going to gain trust with myself. Because i'm gonna get my commitments done. Then you have the in progress like we're doing right now only one thing. It's in that box. What is in progress at that forces so many behaviors in methods one part of the behavior that it forces is focus. So i say one of focused on. And i look at all these things. I could be focused on. And i'm doing this. Well wait a minute. This is not very important persons. As i where it's important they're saying it's important. It's not so focused me to prioritize to so prioritisation isn't like just a method. It's a method that it's forced by saying i'm working on this one thing. Is this the mo. If i checked out right after this task if i basically died right after this have i done when i needed to get done four. Did i just basically do this. Because it was easy it was uh i was avoiding this other stuff. you're right so that's a great method for that and and i would. I would swear by every human being on earth should have that training white one of the nonprofits. I'm part of is the five saturdays program. We go into schools or eight year old nine year older high school kids and we teach them project management skills. Because we know it's going to last them so their entire lives how they collaborate with each other get things done to getting things done key getting the right things done is key understand how the system works together like how one thing impacts another like your time. You don't get it back some money you can make that back you can make it time you will not get back so how you look at your system needs to take in consideration that whatever you spent like we spent this last two hours it better than worth it. We better have gone through a journey together. We'd better be sitting turning on lights together in some ways that other people can turn lights on together those type of things. So there's lots of methods the other method i think is very important as check ins. Not just with yourself. That's easy to do. I like feeling. I'm feeling okay. It's when you're with a group of people that are that matter to you and do that regularly where you check in like a circle and you say it's different rounds so the first round is one of my feeling so each person. Just that's it. They don't go into story man. Sad fear glad. Shame some feeling feeling this overwhelmed gotta judgment be let it happen let it slide. But everybody checks in. So now you've got the real feelings out. Now what's up for you yesterday. This person did this or we did this. We argue here whatever and it allows a person to it out. Process it with a long time. You go round circle again. The third circle is checkout. I'm checking out now with. I'm still angry or happy or whatever and so those methods as symbols they sound they can save relationships families communities societies. If you do this correctly it doesn't take a lot of time and it allows people to speak their truth for people that wanted to follow up with you and you work. We should they go Well i'm on lincoln and sees a senior keith. Montgomery and the company siboro i. It's a transformation company was talking about. And yeah you google me. There's a lot of things involve with you'll see. My name is attached to different projects. That are out there. Some the blockchain space that we're talking about some artificial intelligence. I would go to mostly lincoln all right beautiful so let me take a moment to acknowledge you keith. We went to a lot of different spaces. Thank you so much for being here so generously and spend two hour with me and my audience so we started from your love language. We start from that language. We start from looking at mathematical mind as well as linguistic strategies and now with zoom out to look at using dose rubric to look at a new technology like kroto as an example and how we actually evaluate different opportunities and increase. Something that's brand new for people who are the regular joe schmo right. How do we actually use that to benefit their life and recombine the different utilities to create something years something of value then we talked about the consciousness. Right the source of everything. How do we actually do. Not only delight work balls shadow work such that we can remain sovereign be ourself and thus create a world and when his asian that we truly want to invest in. Then we talked about some of the tactical daily disciplines. You do as way to hone your own sovereignty your own mind such that you can go out and create the kind of future that you wanted to make so i so appreciate you just the way they show up and i can talk to you for hours. You will fascinating man. Thank you so much pleasure. Thank you for having me.

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Leading Transformation in a Regulated Environment

Designing Next: Achieving growth through transformation and innovation

33:11 min | 6 months ago

Leading Transformation in a Regulated Environment

"The welcome episode number sixteen signing danced achieving growth through transformation vacation. I am your host steve. Koch in with me today as always is chad breath chat today. We are talking transformation. And this is something that aligns with what you do in your day job. When you're not hosting podcasts. Yes it does steve. When people ask me what i do. I described my teams work. As two sides of the same coin on one side of the coin we watch the changing landscape of our business. And my case. that's home care. How do we remain relevant to the changing needs of our customers in the changing trends that potentially disrupt how we operate today on the other side of the coin we have to hold the mirror up to the organization how culture and capabilities evolve to meet the changing needs of our customers and those disruptive trends it just so happens that our guest and i started our roles at the same time in our respective companies. Jody and i began Our roles and transformation about three to four months before the pandemic in both of us had to pivot somewhat in our transformational efforts. So steve. I'm really looking forward to you. Introducing jodie to our audience today. Yeah absolutely and i'm excited to speak with her. As well and our guest today is jody. Alison she is the vice president of transformation at gun quinn. Power and utilities in afghanistan operates a number of renewable energy in regulated utility services across the united states and canada chad. As you mentioned jodi has been with conklin for just about a year and a half so as you might imagine she has had an interesting experience as covid nineteen really changed everything for her for all of us just a few months into her tenure in her path leading transformation has come through the world. She started as an accountant and spent almost twenty years at the organization. Paychecks working in risk management and service strategy before transitioning into the tilde industry. I with national grid. A now with conklin so many of us might not always think about the utilities industry when it comes to transformation is jody will share with us. It's a space that's ripe for innovation in a number of areas chat. What can our listeners forward to this interview. Well like a lot of our guest. We like to explore the journey that they have been on at to get where they're at today and leading transformation and in jody's case we hope to talk to jodi about that journey from accounting risk management to leading transformation at a large utilities organization. We'll also dig into what. Transformation looks like in the utilities industry and how it compares to other industries. Yeah absolutely it's gonna be interesting. I'm looking forward to this conversation with jodie and we will welcome her right after the break. Hi this is whitney driscoll. And i'm the director of strategy for cast in hugh casson who is an experience design consultancy and a sponsor of designing next today on with our senior strategist. Jonathan patties jonathan. Tell me how. You've shifted to virtual workshops since the pandemic we used to run most of our research in person but with new virtual tools like digital whiteboards re able to easily organize data create fast and detailed prototypes and give people more comfortable with sharing their opinions. Also this can all be done from anywhere in the world without having to travel. How do you ensure people stay engaged when they aren't in person. We utilize breakout rooms a lot. Depending on the level of engagement we need and we also encourage people to own their ideas and explain them in their own words sharing with the larger group. Where can people learn more. You can learn more at cast and hugh dot com slash virtual or. See the lincoln the show nuts. Welcome jody how are you doing today. And then well how are you. I am doing great. Thank you and really looking forward to our conversation. And we love to start these conversations by learning a bit about our guest background. So can you tell us a bit about your journey to leading transformation in the utilities world. Today yes so. It's it's been quite a journey. Start the very beginning. I started out in the financial capacity. So my background is really accounting and I have worked across a lot of different industries. So retail manufacturing financial services Recently joined the utility space. So that's been interesting. It's been from from different respective. I started out in. Like i said finance but worked my way into operations and then spent a lot of time working through different capacities whether it was customer or financial services and then working through as well Building a lot of different types of functions but then focused on customer operations in customer strategy and then moving to the utility space where it works for large northeast utility And took care of the meter to cash operation so that the back office customer operations or the us operations and as well as driving some change around you know how they operated. And then that led me to algonquin. Which was actually a great opportunity to be the vice president of transformation and looking to do a lot of great work with a great group of people jodi. What does transformation look like in the utilities industry. Could you say a little more about that aso. Transformation in utility spaces absolutely fascinating I came from the financial services Industry before that and had a lot of different experiences but when you looked at the utility industry it was really interesting because it's not just It's not just one facet of the business that's evolving. It's across the board so you look at it. It's really about not just the the experience that the customer has while you're interacting with the business but also it's it's about sustainability and how we continue to look at different ways to take care environment while we take care of ourselves so it's really interesting when you look at the business as a whole how much it has evolved and continues to evolve and change and when you look at it it's it's really fascinating to think about all the opportunity that we've kind of started on this journey but is there so much ahead so when you think about Choices that customers have they look for choice in how they interact with us but they also look for choice in how they are served from an energy and water perspective so where those resources come from. So it's it's it's it's really Just a fascinating business. It has really changed. You know when you think about it a decade ago when you really talked about it was all about assets and pipes and wires. The customer was not really part of as much as part of the conversation And that's really changed in continues to evolve. So i give the industry a lot of credit for how far it's moved as fast as it's moved Especially being regulated industry. Yeah absolutely and there are so many challenges in regulated industries in when you look at your role today. You're leading transformation for multiple utilities across multiple states and provinces. I imagine complex doesn't even begin to describe that challenge. So how do you approach such a daunting challenge like this. Yeah so it's it's you know it's it's a great business if you look at that's are regulated business. If you look at it step back and look at it as a whole you know. We're in twenty four providence in state. So it's it's very Broad and people coming from a lot of different perspectives and We we've acquired a lot of businesses over time. We started out as a renewable company when renewable wasn't really. You know the thing to do so many years ago and it's really been interesting as We've acquired utilities into the family. It's been interesting to watch how we bring that discipline around the renewable space to the utilities and look at the long legacy of great things that those utilities have accomplished. How do you bring that together. So when you talk about leading transformation and you're talking about you know looking at it across the company with the the the depth and breath it's It's really about You know how do you leverage some of that rate work. That's been done. Great people that have built it to this point and then continue on that work and really focus on the people so really keeping now. It's really easy to get caught up in new technology and different aspects of change. But it's it's really about. How do you focus on the people that make sure that all of that great work. That's gotten them to the point of where they are today. How do you leverage that and make sure that people are grounded in the same guiding principle is the same purpose the same mission so that they really understand You know their work may look different and may be done in different ways in different places but they have that common grounding and most importantly to that it's embedded in in how they're graded on their performance so it's it's really it's about the culture and making sure that I had a lot of really good Leaders that focused. On that. Before i arrived at algonquin and really wanted to make sure that That was well grounded before we started making a lot of change through transformation so very helpful i love you. You lead with that people aspect of the work and You arrived at gong to just a few months before cove. nineteen arrived in north america. Can you talk a little bit. About how the pandemic has impacted your approach. And and your business in konkan opportunities start out gunk win in november of nineteen. So i had about three and a half months underneath my belt when things changed quite drastically so we had put together this complete body of work. We call customer. I and it's about moving towards that. Customer centric approach and enabling our employees to be able to deliver on the the needs of our customers and so we had this whole plan together. How the work was going to be done And everything changed you know. The business was facing drastic changes in the needs of the customer. All the sudden for an industry that wasn't Probably had the most What i call leading edge digital capabilities. All of a sudden the customers had needs to be able to operate that way. And you know a lot of our work was set up in stage to be done in person so we had a lot of people. Moving around working on projects undertaking different activities in different locations. All of that we had to change on. You know a dime so to speak so it was really quite a quite whiten efforts to just make sure that everybody understood We had immediate changing customer demands. How do we meet those. And how do we make sure that people understood how we're going to get the work done when we removed virtually so we had people that were working on different projects in dallas chicago. All of a sudden all of that in person work with went virtual. So is it was really interesting to watch the teams shift. What they did so very very gracefully. I might add and Continue the work so very very interesting to watch. Yeah it's. I'm sure it's been almost a year and a half now of of interesting challenges as you embark on this journey of transformation. Tell us tell us about some of your successes that you've had thus far Maybe an initiative that you're particularly proud. Yes so i think i think we're all in algonquin liberty to serve the customer and when at the end of the day their expectations and their needs. Don't didn't stop because of the pandemic. So what i'm really proud of is the way that the teams came together and continued to deliver on projects as planned and we have delivered. Were currently working through a large initiative to deliver. Sap capabilities Across the business but before that we decide we're going to set out on a journey to launch success factors and reba which was going to give us capabilities for employees and as well as water supply chain so we delivered both those projects in october. On time on schedule we have put in Over a hundred and sixty thousand smart meters in our central location to continue the work to give our customers the ability to control their usage and understand what that looks like so they can participate in the process of deciding how they operate in how much energy they use. Which you know is something. We all would appreciate to ason and flexibility. So i just really think that What i'm most proud of is watching. People continue to focus on what the customer's needs are in shifting because we were facing a pandemic but still executing on all of those programs delivering expected. So i think for us that that was a huge accomplishment. I can imagine. I'm curious about what are the ways that you're you know you talked about. The customers needs which are so important in. so how do you listen to the customers. How do they you know what what are some of the themes that you're hearing. That's driving this transformation. Yes so i think you know it's like any experience you have whether it's Anything you can experience in your daily life. You have a certain expectation around your customer experience and you know one of the things that we we take for granted is Being able to see information on a personalized page. So you log into something and you're able to see information about yourself in anticipation what your next need might be you know. The utility industry has does not necessarily have those capabilities across the board. And it's really been an opportunity to provide them with a better experience. I won't say A lot of people think amazon lake won't say amazon lake. But you know being able to have a better experience that personalized experience and you know it's really understanding what it is that they're looking for. We have to serve the You know we have. We have to provide capabilities to serve all customers so if someone wants to pay by check. They have to be able to do that if someone wants to be able to pay electronically offering them as many opportunities to do so. It doesn't mean that the industry has always had the capabilities to do that. So it's how are we going to transform to provide them with the experience that you just Encounter in your daily life. So you ex. You carry that expectation with you that when you get to the next business that they should be able to do the same thing and so it's been really important that we listen to those customers that really want more electronic options to pay. They want more control over their experience. As far as how much energy they use where it comes from so it's really understanding how that connection works between the customer indeed civility and making sure that You know they have the opportunity to make those choices and get that very personalized Approach when our when our guests come on our podcast jodi we love it when they share some learnings. And maybe think about you. You've been there now. Fifteen months or so and through listening to the customers are the employees. Were there any assumptions. You made going into the role that that were changed through. You're listening techniques and through what you've learned over the first fifteen months or so in this row. Yeah i think it's you know it's interesting when you're dealing with an environment where there is a lot of a change taking place The world's moving faster right like the world's moving faster the expectations people continues to rise. I really look at transformation. And way to work with up people across the board whether it's your customers whether it's the regulators who are key stakeholders whether it's your employees. It's really about understanding what their needs are and enabling them in a way that they are able to get what they need. And so when you think about that. Transformation to me met looking at more so the skills the capabilities the the culture of a lot of people go straight to technology or straight to to process. I mean it that all has its place but it's really understanding what the needs are across the board from those people and making sure that You have the opportunity to to really listen and understand. And the biggest thing is don't make any assumptions and we all carry a lot of experience with us and when we carry that experience it comes with a lot of assumptions that people know things and people only know what their experiences have up to that point. So it's really important to to communicate over communicate. I guess i would say just. Because i think people come with different experiences and we sometimes we forget that you know not. Everybody has had the same experiences we got him. I think for to use an example specifically. i think it's just understanding when you have several. We have six very large projects all going on at the same time. And there's for some of us who've been involved in different types of efforts you know there's certain things that happen at certain junctures in those projects that comes with that or understands what is happening behind that you know think of is behind the curtain like what's going on so really making sure that You know start at the beginning and explain and make sure that people all come together from the same place To kind of work together to get to the empty outcome. Yeah i imagine that that's a that's a big challenge in and especially with the breadth of of the organization You know something is thinking about. Jodi is just the idea of transformation in this space. This utility space. And you know i i think of by experience i have. I have one choice right of my utility here in arizona. And that's the case for many folks and so d. Do you remedy challenges. Because it's the there's a lot of that. The whole organization is is along those lines but but several times you don't face the same challenges of consumer choice in many areas of your business that other businesses do so. Does that change in terms of how you can get the ship on board around the transformation challenges are how does that change how you approach things compared to some of your past experiences in other industries. Yes i think. I think it is different but it. There is a lot of similarities. So i think you know in other industries. Certainly there customers have choices in in you know in revenue drives a lot of decisions. And i think when you look at the utility space. You can't underestimate that changes if you look at some of the the different markets People have what they call retail choice where they can choose where their energy comes from. These are all this. It's all the start of having different types of and with distributed generation meeting that people have options for renewable. And what does that look like. And how can that be facilitated. In different ways utility industry needs to continue to transform and change in up with that In in understanding. And listening. To your customer i i love someone told me this once and i i love if you ask people back in the eighteen. Hundreds what they needed they would have told you a faster horse when probably what they needed was a car so we have a responsibility is is an industry to really look at listen to the customer. Understand what their needs are but we also have a responsibility to keep innovating and keep looking for those new types of opportunities especially with a consideration of our environment so You don't always think of the utility industry and customers having choice They do have twice in how Sometimes they get their energy as far as who they get it from. And it's definitely an evolving industry. That's going to continue to change. And you want your customers to be your advocates and take that journey with you were sustainability. So i think it's one of those things where it's it's not the most apparent when you look at these space but there is a lot of change that's taking place that does drive people to consider different races and You know if it it is a they do have a strong voice in how their served Through the regulatory channels and they do have a strong voice in you know our our policies of political policies. So i think it's you know there's there's a lot there to to look at when you think about the the customers and how they interact with that. The choice may look different but it you know. There is a component to bits. It's president needs to be addressed when we look at how we are continuing to evolve as an industry. Yeah absolutely several perspectives. You just shared that That i hadn't considered but obviously a lot to think about especially as you look towards the future and that's why planning and approaching these transformation initiatives are are so important so along those lines is you know as we've talked about your fifteen months in There's a lot of our listeners. I'm sure that are thinking about. How do we start moving our business forward and how do we think about the future and start transformation efforts. And what advice would you give leaders. Who are embarking on building new. Transformation transformative experiences. I think the one thing that i would like to really get people to focus on. Its when you think about transformation. I talked a little bit about this before. It's really about the people. It's about the stakeholders. It's it's about the employees the customers it's about the key stakeholders externally. It's it's trying to understand. You know how you're going to enable those people to do what is needed and so i think it's more so about the tolls in the process. All that comes later. But i look at a lot of transformation. Efforts yet centered on the shiny ball technology or You know there's a whole component of change management where people talk a lot about training and communication will. That's just that that's not really. What changed managements about right. it's about the broader understanding of know. Do people have the skills and capabilities to get from point to be And i think. I think it's it's really about understanding all his aspects of of. How are you going to you know. What's the strategy what. What's the operating model. Which could allow you to get there. It's all of the components that need work with the culture. How how is. How is the environment bent set up from purpose mission. The guiding principles the performance measures. How has it all been structured and set up to make sure that where you're trying to get to. You've enabled people the throughout the the the process and the epic. That's what i would ask people to step back and just look at you. Know what what is it that they're trying to to accomplish in like the outcome and how they enabled it by doing all of those things to get there because a lot of times. That's the challenges We become overly focused on solutions or different types of aspects of significant projects in in companies. It's it's really about People the customers and trying to make sure that you stay focused on what their needs. Are you the the hardest thing for me is going around the company. I'm listening to an employee that wants so badly to deliver for customer and just doesn't have what they need to make it happen. They know what the need is and they know what they need to do. They just don't have what they need. And that's sometimes those things get don't get brought to the surface to be able to be delivered on it and it's a shame so i hope people really focus on the on those things and i think they'll be successful they do. I couldn't agree more. You know we just spent so much time focusing like you said on that shiny ball of technology or one facet and the system. We're in today or the cultural today. Set up to get exactly what we have today and you think about the different levers and aspects of it all you have to shift. It's difficult work so we're grateful for you to share all your wisdom. Jody i would just Maybe ask what's next for our gong win the transformation that utilities industry what what would you like to share their. Yeah so i think uh gakuen in. Liberty is an exciting company to watch. So i think because renewables backgrounds. I think when you look at a lot of the different type of work that's going on in in the utility space We see a lot of opportunity. And you look at sustainability. I would say what to see a lot of traditional utilities looking to new ways to deliver You know sustainable energy to their customers and agok went certainly than at the forefront of that and will continue to be look for us to continue to grow. You'll see us adding a lot of of new members to the family and Certainly leveraging those opportunities to continue to a bring all the knowledge that we've gained plus all know the knowledge that that those companies and opportunities brain. So i think you're gonna see a lot of change in customer experience we're doing. We're doing a lot of good things. Are we have a lot of big projects rolling out over the next couple of years to help continue to drive that personalized experience for the customer. So that they can not only choose how they are activists but also make sure that they understand what choice they do. Have to to your point earlier you know. What choices do i have. I control my usage. Like how do i know. I always use the analogy like you. Don't walk in a restaurant and order lobster and have no idea what it costs for some customers in utilities as they do that every day that turn lights on it. They have no idea how much money they're spending So how do we give them. The right tools to be able to to to make conscious decisions and choices around those things and and You'll good how they've consumed energy when they're concerned about the environment. So i think you'll you can look for us to to make a lot of you change in that space and excited to be part of it. That's great very exciting. And and we really appreciate you giving us giving us this inside look in terms of transformation and really the the role that the experience plays in the space. Because i know. I speak for myself and i better speak for chad that we both learned a lot here and i bet our listeners did as well so thanks for sharing so much today jodi thank you jody your your time you spent with us and wish you well your new role. Thank you very much greatly appreciate it suggests. That was a really interesting. Conversation with jodie definitely opened my eyes to several things around the utility space. Would you learn. I really learned how you manage. Transformation with the change that must occur across the board the customer experience in jones case sustainability and operations and all the opportunities And a lot of challenges in in doing that. I also appreciate this common thing that we often here in our podcast and it's an important one. The transformation doesn't start with technology is starts with listening and understanding the needs of customers and employees. Yeah i really liked how she hit home. That point about needs which. Of course you and i appreciate so much and a lot of what he spoke about reminded me of healthcare In terms of just being a bit behind but recognizing expectations are changing and really focusing on. Needs you transform and design new experiences so great conversation with jodie. So let's talk about our next episode. Our guest is going to be jennifer zamora. She is the senior global director of customer experience. Employee experience a dow jennifer spent her twenty year career with dow that is included roles across the organization spanning from customer service to financial and marketing management areas. Her most recent focus has been to deploy the long-term cx strategy and the disciplines associated with it which includes implementing customer listening process institutionalizing. A customer centric culture across dow and defining and implementing. Dow's transformative customer distinction. Model in journey mapping practices. We're going to speak with her about how she's done that and also how. She is ensuring alignment and collaboration between the employee experience in the customer experience practices endow. Yeah i'm really excited to speak with her. You know she's basically stood up customer experience at this complex to be organization integrating it with the axe. It's it's gonna be a cool. Conversation shall have a lot of interesting learnings to share with our audience and upset will be out on april fifteenth in very important day in the united states most years with tax day. Although we've we've got a bit of extension this year so you'll have time to listen to the podcast and into make sure. Our new episodes are delivered to you every two weeks. Please subscribe on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts in we're designers so of course we want your feedback. Please leave us a review on apple podcast or spotify or contact us directly at podcast at cast in dot com. 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771: Why is Shiv Sena Agitated Over Narayan Rane's Remark on Thackeray?

The Big Story

14:33 min | 3 weeks ago

771: Why is Shiv Sena Agitated Over Narayan Rane's Remark on Thackeray?

"You're listening to the quint sport gust. The decades long feud between the Ryan Rani and odre has reached a new low with the formal, a union minister being arrested for his remarks against Tahrir and is addressed to the media on 28th August, Ronnie had alerts that thackeray had forgotten the year of India's independence during his 15th August addressed to the state and had to check the same with his aids during his speech. He added that if he was present there, he would have given thackeray a quote unquote tight slap. And swiftly, he was arrested by Nashville on 24 August. His comments resulted not just in his arrest, but also violent clashes between the chefs signal and BJP workers large protests and vandalism in several cities across monash. In one visual capture on social media, a chefs in a vocal can be seen pelting stones at the BGP office in nausea. But the arrest also comes just a few months ahead of the Maharashtra municipal corporation elections where the MBA and the BGP are expected to battle it out in key consequences like Mumbai and panic. And in a bit to regain political control of the state, the BJP has positioned Ronnie in Maharashtra to take on the MBA. But why was the shifts in up in arms about Ron's comments? What caused a bitter feud between Rani and toxic? And where is it headed to discuss this for today's episode? We spoke with senior journalist and author, so doctor Alan. Get tuned in to the big story. The podcast where we taxi the headline making news for you, and I'm your host and mud. The feud between running talk rate runs back to 2005 when Rana was outset from the shifts in our party, but his recent remarks have riled up the old dispute again as he slammed the Parkway regarding his Independence Day speech. While speaking to the media and writer on 24 August, he said that, and I quote, it is shameful that the chief minister does not know the ER of India's independence. He leaned back to inquire about the count of years of independence during his speech. Had I been there, I would have given him a tight slap. The comments did not sit well with chefs in a workers and sparked outrage in the streets, posters of Rani were plastered in Mumbai and other metro cities, calling him a quote unquote combat or reportedly snide reference the poultry shop he ran in chamber decades ago, a big group of shifts, and also reach run his residence in Mumbai, where the class with BJP supporters leading to stone pelting from both sides, and on 24th August Rani was arrested at some wish for in that magritte by nausea city police team, where the FI was filed against him in a viral video running can be seen having a meal when the police arrested him. According to an Indian express report, at least three FIR's have been registered against Ronnie, for his remarks with charges under section one 53, which is want to only giving provocation with the intent to cause riot section one 59 section 5 zero four, which is intentional insult to provoke breach of peace, section Pfizer fight public mischief and section Pfizer 6 criminal intimation of the Indian penal code. After reportedly spending 9 hours in jail, he was granted bail by the mahat code. The code directed Ronnie to not tamper with the probe, cooperate with the investigations and also appear before the alibar police on 38th August and 13 September. Rani has since contested the three FIR's and even tried to move the Bombay high court for an urgent hearing, which the code declined. But given that the shifts in a may know that the charges against Ronnie won't stand in court, what optics did this arrest serve. According to senior journalist sujata a London, the action taken against Rani by the shifts in the result of a power play between the two sides. What was the crime? He said that he's going to slap the Maharashtra chief minister. Now, the thing is the mother so chief minister constitutional authority. And you can probably not get away with slapping a slapping achievement. So constitutional authority. But if you remember, there was there was a man in Delhi who had once slapped Sharapova when he was a union minister. Not much action was taken against him. So this whole thing between naraine Ronnie and uda thackeray goes back even to times, you know, I mean, Narendra has not got along with the for a very long time. He had to say now because of the tax rate. And who doesn't know very well that Nara and he was being inducted into the cabinet only to trouble the ship sana into trouble him. So it is entirely a question of power play and optics. You know, the chief minister of Maharashtra has made it very clear even to the union ministers and particularly to Nara and Ronnie that you know you are you get out of line in my state and you could be arrested. They knew that there are no sections, you know, which they could slap on Rani that would sustain. But Ron has been given conditional Bill. There are about four or 5 conditions. That itself is humiliating for running. You know, the fact that, you know, two Mondays, he has to report to, that I got police station, et cetera. Et cetera, all those things are a bit humiliating. This man who thinks he's a big bunga and you know, I mean, he can take on, you know? I mean, the ship say no, he can take on a doctor. The fact that he has he's brought to heel by od who's now the chief minister of Maharashtra, it is humiliation. So it is just a question of power play and it is one of my. So the cre is one upon one or two up after the bill to open Ronnie. Now we have to wait and see how it plays out in the future. But political commentators also point out the curious timing of this arrest. In the run up to the municipal corporation elections, Ronnie has been making the rounds of key consequences in Maharashtra like Mumbai polgar ratana, and sent up the now the BJP has been trying to make inroads into the Maharashtra konkan belt, which has served as the bastion for the shifts in a for decades. The BGP party state unit has also been reportedly during the conquering belt for months trying to cement the party's base there. The region was also visited by a union home minister Amit Shah in January this year. But the party has been struggling to gain any foothold in the region, having control of only three out of the 21 assembly seats, and their rival ships are now concluding ten. This shift sina and January also dealt the BGP local unit and sent to a heavy bloke by inducting 7 counselors from the software party. And this is where Ronnie comes in, who is a maratha phase and was responsible for expanding the shifts in our support in the concurrent build. Renaissance related is also an MLA from the studio and then explains the BGP strategy in Maharashtra in how significant will run is ruled will be to Garner the crucial votes in the konkan region when Ronnie was in the shifts in a Balkan propensity. You know, I mean, BioTech would never move anywhere except when he wanted to go and address a meeting or something like that. So he had handed over various regions to various people had been handed to run it, and it was completely in charge of the content. And nasik was handed to chug and budget bill. Navi Mumbai will hand it to 102 Ganesh snack. But you look at what happened afterwards in the shift in people voted only for bile tuck. It didn't matter the issues in matter. You know, I mean, the situation didn't matter. They voted for Baltic. The local leaders did not matter. Now, all the local leaders thought that they were the buns in that in that area. So when Nara and Ronnie quit tissue Sinai joined the Congress, the Congress also took him on because they thought that he would be able to bring home to them. And in Mumbai, he would be able to bring, you know, the area the millworkers area, which was the shift in our strong wood. They thought that was the end of first municipal elections that came narayan rame was given about 40 seats for tea out of the 200 watt seats that were there in the municipal corporation. He was able to win only two seats. He was able to win only two or three seats maximum in that area in the shifts in a stronghold. And in the after an hour and running quit and join the Congress. Now, even the NCP was after the conquering and even the Congress was after the NCP and Congress were having a Tesla over Narendra that point of time, shared power wanted to come to the NCP for the same reason and Congress was wing him for the same reason. But what happened after the first assembly assembly elections, the thing is a shoe sign up, put up a relative, non entity, and that non entity won the election. Ron could not win any seats over there. Now another first looks about election. His son managed to win the win the looks of our seat. He managed to win an assembly seat. His second son managed to win another SMBC. But the next election, you know, both I mean, one of his sons lost, he lost only once and was able to retain retain his SMBC. Then the Congress became a seat from bandra where Nara and Ronnie has a house, which is supposed to be his another stronghold office for a by election, the Congress gave him a ticket from there. He lost to symptom. And which candidate the widow of the man who had who had won the election earlier. So if the BJP king said the Nara and Ronnie is going to win them seats in the conqueror in Bombay, they have another thing coming. You know, the reason why then narayan runne had to quit the Congress was because the Congress found no use anymore from nada and ranu. The Congress always had to use and discard policy now. I mean, you know, if you notice the Congress never gives any positions to anybody unless that person is an original congressman. Sharapova is only a Christian, but you can see the children power was also an original congressman who broke the Congress and then went and formed his own party and joined various other parties and then came back. But, you know, I mean, you know, they are just using to you know people who come from other political parties. If they are useful if they are able to bring seeds if they are bringing some value to the Congress, then that person is being given a lot of importance. If you are not reading any of the party, you're not bringing anything to the table. They just discard you. That is what happened with narayan running. But what makes the shift singers disdain towards run a very evident is the fact that beyond this incident, there are at least 40 other FIS registered in connection with Janice yatra across Maharashtra for allegedly holding public gatherings amid a pandemic and not falling COVID guidelines. And all of this goes back to 2005 when Randy was expelled from the party for quote unquote anti party activities, Rani was a longtime, having solved the party for nearly 39 years and held several leadership posts, including chief minister from Russia for a short time in 1999. The feud, however, took a bitter turn when the shifts in the thackeray as a party's president in 2003, which running openly challenged that in 2005, he left the chefs in and joined the Congress. 12 years later in 2017, he resigned from the Congress stating that he was denied the same post that was promised to him. And then later declared support for the BGP formally joining the soft and party in 2019. But ever since he left shifts in 2005, there has been a particle squabble out in the open between him and the thackeray's in certain instances, Ronnie has issued several personal attacks on the thackeray, his ability to run the party, remarks against his wife and his son, but the BGP was quick to distance itself from Ronnie's recent remarks. Former Mara sha chief minister in leader of the opposition, David Fernandez, on 24th August said that while the party feels that the remarks made by Ronnie were inappropriate, the party will stand firmly behind him. The queen also reached out to BJP Mumbai vice president had his gene who categorically denied any links between run is arrest and the party's preparation for the BMC elections. He said, and I quote, everybody is aware that the party takes every election seriously. However, it will be wrong to draw any links between what happened on Tuesday with the upcoming elections. It was in misuse of power and violations of constitution values by the chef Senna. But given that the rivalry has continued over 16 years, it's just the end to it or will this episode blow up even more. So you have to understand. In a limited fashion it is over in the sense, you know, and it has run as said that I slapped the chief minister. Now he is not really slap the chief minister. Don't you have freedom of speech and expression in this country? You know, you can see anything. So long as you are not physically violent, you know, I mean, so many people are saying for many things again, so many people, no action, no action is being taken against them, you know. Like I said earlier, this was just power play. Who is the, who is the bigger person? You know, I mean, in this instance, with the Thai food that if you are in Maharashtra, I'm the I'm the person who calls the shots. You don't do never mind you might be a minister in the center, but you don't call the shots over here. You know? And it has been a bit humiliating for nada and running. Of course, running go ahead and run and we'll try to find ways and means again to need the company. But you know, I mean, you know, this particular action is over how many times will you arrest the man who working where he says? So I think I think the government of the country, everybody will wait, you know, I mean for rather more provocation, they will wait to needle tax rate. They will, I mean, they will wait to need it running. They will wear it to a runny to lose his cool loses temper and do something that will come within the ambit of the law that will come within the hundred of a crime for them to arrest him and then, you know, I mean, for a longer period to arrest him for a longer period, put him behind bars for at least a couple of days, you know, I mean, something like that. But for the moment, I think it has blown over. While the bitter dispute between Iranians have seen a may die down in the coming days, both parties will surely get up efforts with the election just around the corner. If you like listening to this episode, please subscribe to the big story for episodic updates. We are available on Apple, Google podcast, Spotify, geo 7, and most of the other popular podcast streaming platforms. For other podcasts, please log on to the Queen website and for any feedback please shoot an email to podcasts at the quint dot com. Thanks for listening. 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Pinterest Secrets: How to Unlock Quality Traffic from the Worlds Best Visual Search Engine

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Pinterest Secrets: How to Unlock Quality Traffic from the Worlds Best Visual Search Engine

"What is going on my friend? Welcome back or welcome for the first time. Congratulations you made it to the podcast domination. Show and this episode. There's GonNa be a little different because we're not really talking about podcast but we're talking about a platform that can really help you grow your podcasts. And we've got an expert on to really lay down the framework on how to do that exactly and she spares no detail when it comes to the nitty-gritty and you're really gonNA like this episode. If you want practical it's called vice very simple stuff like when to post what not to post what to avoid what to use when it comes to specific types of content She goes all in on Pinterest. Which is the flavor of today's episode but Our guest is none other than that ECE Toledo. TERRESA is a of Brazilian descent and she speaks four languages. And we KINDA. I think we talk about that little bit in the beginning. So you'll hear a little bit about that. But she walks us through a really really simple framework designed to help you grow or even launch a brand new account and get traction very very quickly quickly even though Funny enough it's not a very fast acting profile or account really. It's more of a longterm type of thing so she gets into that a bit. You'll learn a lot on how the logger them works and She goes into some great detail on a lot of really critical stuff so I learned a ton. I know. You're gonNA enjoy it as well so I hope you enjoy this episode with myself and that Esa Toledo. So how do you start a successful podcast that allows you to build your name online line build your network and also helps you bring in Leeds customers and generate a huge audience that is gonNa love you. Love the content you put. That's the question we aim to solve on this podcast. PODCAST domination show and my goal is to help you figure out what works in growing and montages montage your show and help you implement those strategies in your show today. My name is Louis D asking I am pumped to have you here on the podcast Mason. Show so let's let's get into today's episode threes. I want to make sure I see things from Brazil and I know the well at least this goes my name is did is that. It's like we pledge the but what see. I've been here for seventeen years and every time somebody would ask my name. I would say to review that they would say and then go oh to read that so then they said in a lot. I'm not GONNA try try. I'm just going to say my name. In how aggregate say I've finally You know people call me key are threes implying that it they say it is and you saved. It can ask like laughing so it's gotta speak four languages to wow so English I guess what else Spanish. Okay Dad William Well on Arabic. Oh wow you know my emails aerobic and I've been to the Middle East a few times in there for almost six months and I was very interested in culture and I wanted to make sure that I knew they were talking about. It's me right so you know the result is that I can. I can take a taxicab over there. I go to the doctor I can shop without anyone. chaperone amy and they cannot say anything about me or they can't talk behind your back without you can even with some reading. I can even the summary So but it's it's not strongest language but Spanish is very strong getting Florida. You know how we need Spanish here. Yeah and especially I I used to go to. Ucf F- So a lot of Portuguese so a lot of that when I was there so so very cool. That was cool background. Well you know in a way. I use far language that home really given date because my kid to speak Portuguese we interact daily with Spanish speaking people people and have a stepdaughter in. She communicates dead in Arabic and my in laws so in in a given day I have all of them going on. That's good good do you. Don't lose it right no no. It's I enjoyed it. It's fun yes. That's any like travelling out so we love traveling. I saw your instagram. Graham is a lot of cool place. I'm going to Rome Nex- next month next week. Actually so are you going to lobby please. We we've just at a problem. We just had to the wrong in the airport but we went to Naples Pizza on the street and that was too ill the cheapest so ever but the key to nowadays talk about the best pizza ever that we had from these whatever you know little food cart on the street. Yes yes. It's very exciting. Beautiful Place you're GONNA love. The people are beautiful there so I can't wait I can't wait. Well that thing mighty I'm definitely excited for it Your instagram inspired me to bring that up today. I believe when a dive in too bad I don't spend much time there. The on my clients but not right. It's all in on on pinterest. Which is definitely what we're covering today? grow a pinterest account organically We touched on the paid ads. That you you're talking about an exciting new side the whole platform but Today really want to dive into how to grow instagram account or yet now at pinchers accounts gives me organically and then how is that the business traffic for a website specifically You send over some case studies and I was blown away by the amount of traffic this growth in a three or six month period so to kick things off. I'd love to just get idea of really quickly how you got into pinterest and then we can kind of go into the steps of how to grow one inches of cal kinda like it was something that Kinda happened like a lot of things in my life. Any was three years ago. I was a fitness call in. I was working away if these online company in mansion. Hey we need some help with is the fact from ahead bad PINTEREST I. I'm not I haven't been underplay farm as long as someone who is being from the tags where you could only get it. You're invited nervous time reunion but it seems to twelve in displaying around the platform and I said yes sure so they did have many blog posts fitness related Metabolism was related strength training and I took Pin them right away pregnancy. Some results wage at their website. It was very well Eh. CEO Oriented. Let's say especially for the team of metabolism or said in West Mu started working on pinterest. Pinterest took the second place as a traffic GEICO referral in you just kept going. Meanwhile I played around with other platforms professional. You could say that other platforms uh-huh but pinterest has always been there eventually. I started against him or clients. Fashion Blogger lifestyle travel. I even have find that you were using. It was in far. Our construction business interests tabloidish credit yet. Interesting roads were interesting in. That's goes nowadays. I am focusing most dangerous of cars. This time I worked with also at business coaches bumping folks that are allowed to courses in most recently. I have also naturally speak with man's head attractors so all kind of like in the house motivational canal area. And it's fine you know. He's just icy myself focusing more Interest Yeah Yeah and there's definitely what stood out to me when I was feeling we connected through facebook group and The number one thing I remember in the malls again definitely want to show to talk about pinchers traffic. Because I've seen some of the things and you've been posting about allergies blown away. I was I really want to just narrow in on on the pinterest. accounts I tended to say. Let's talk about paid stuff but I think that's for another episode. That have their again a calm down first rhyming states. I want to go straight to paid ads because I want to do this. Super Fast. Alice's say you can do whatever you want but mice Allergy Wolves helped having organic side solid in generating traffic generating helping me at your Beck Leagues and everything else in house. Oh so wants to promote the person who is aimed for whatever. You're promoting has a place to come back to. It's pretty much like you WANNA try to run facebook ads without having a facebook page. That has impose he's just doesn't make sense is to me. Yeah so I like the idea all inorganic I all right. Let's let's dive in then so for context and maybe for a lot of people listening to this call like me they may be Novice Pinchas users but we see value in the platform where it's like How can we use this to drive? Traffic and awareness etc etc.. So what would be step number one safe. You're taking a podcast or or someone with a in the health space. Maybe a health coach upon we can we can talk about. How health quote space are we can talk about the the podcast? But let's talk about the health coach. Who out first of all the first thing pinterest? It's for someone who has content art interested in building content. If someone comes to me and say hey I haven't his one landing pages have this one product in the Konkan had faked. They em Saray lives are going to be really hard. I'm not saying he cannot be done. But it's GonNa take time it's going to be your hair now. Someone comes to me and say hey I have about twelve basis you know come to have slob hosts in creating our you know religion seventy once a week. It doesn't matter what it is talking about. I want to say okay. Okay now. You're talking I'm GONNA ask you. What is your goal? Why you WANNA traffic you just you WANNA traffic because you have ads on your page you on your your traffic because you're going to have an offer because you're gonNA offer cars? You want people to teen choice in watcher content you need to have because because otherwise you wouldn't put time and effort and you're going to do this traffic in Chicago Com On your website have nowhere to sin and then when I get frustrated astray you're gonNA save all this is not working for me and not monetize so you need to know how you gonNA monetize it. That's very very important The same way if someone you just went ahead a podcast to podcast. You're going to say. Are you sure. Maybe it's not a mess thing to have a goal all the fire Stack Jack and that is one thing that I would like for everyone to take from here today. You can only take one thing. Interest is not a social media platform. It's a visual search. Engine so pinterest is closer to youtube than it's closer to instagram or facebook and reason why people are there to search for content. They're not they're socialize. They acknowledged to see your updates. Democratically won something. They want to solve a problem. They WANNA buy something they I try some so they go into Patrick net mindset. They're searching for something which kind of warm them up for. Whatever you have the offering true true? It's a different parent. Yes so let's say if someone is looking for talk about Ab Beck Ping someone is looking for a how do do you know how to improve back. Pain or exercise So the person is rated typing those keywords in Onstar Com has those keywords. The person is GonNa be serve the which combined with those keywords now the person is not gonna CD's like Google we have you know just the words it's going WanNa see images and imagine like visual index and the person is GonNa Stroll to reap in a forest finding one that seems interesting back five exercise too so back bay our to prevent bacteria the person's GonNa Click knowing that the person's going to send another child side interest right. Everybody who is on Pinterest knows that they're going to stand out of the platform about if let's say there was an opinion in you need you're gonNA receive a printable. The person's GonNa say the person knows already so most likely if that's the content the person is not gonNa Bounce is GonNa uptaken and you can keep nurturing batch. Relationship from there are Arctic. The person is on the Only consumed Crompton through each something that would sell out in the platform. They go to your website to consume the product in they bounce. Just one that piece of information that you're fine because every time they do that not only go to right beside but they are sending a signal based this competence is used for shared to other people So it's growing your reach essentially when it's creating engagement so even they bounced wage waged at a lot of people say At us in Pinterest might bounce rates. Who Chris Right they will increase in? That's normal now. Can you improve those rates. Yes light creating interest for people to stay in your page right that can be achieved as well but you know the moment that they tack on image to go outside the is getting signals. The Algorithm is understanding. Hey it's valuable. Yeah so it's positive either way so so number one is really getting goal of how you're going to monetize you. Have you need to understand that that is not a social media platform farm and you need to be intentional right on your like where. You're driving traffic in the first place right if accurate now another another thing. That is very important. Locate each state. You know I've never been on pinpricks yet on the platform they can look around. It's going to off at first happened. I is it's really good painter. Stand up acts. Hey when you sign up graded to ask what are interested in your interesting cars that are interested in fashion wellbeing gene health. You'RE GONNA choose interest of tax turning you content that relates to your interest now that gets primed overtime. They might not get it right. It gets time you search for something yes every time you cry pinnock you more or you just type in a sense if eighth we know what to offer you next time drawn if you will collect all the information in according to what you search in what you interact with it to get those speaking. I was like hey these personal. What's right they may? Focus is getting a good user experience right like facebook book so after we've gotten we've gotten really clear goal of how we're GONNA monetize and why won't the traffic was coming to the next step if I'm a if I'm a health code we'll take the health coach approach or a fitness professionally looking for clients or trying to sell a Some kind of fitness product. What would be the next step in? And starting turn to generate attention on this platform it's to create content in when I say create content. It's not only just creating blog post with images but he's kidding to the platform which would be the equivalent of postage deployed farmer but we call it penny because you could imagine pietas as it's huge Beijing barred in which people opinion pieces of information. So how you do that. You create images at images for pinterest are not the same size as facebook and east grim clear image. You can be in a facebook side but you WanNa pee in a vertical image. That's chew by three. That's interests favored Britt sides in. That's GONNA take enough. I would say real estate space on being frisked that people can see so you always think poetry. It's an image. Alright speeders. Because it's a weekend applaud be the platform. Now look building for only ass. They look beautiful. They're not really good at getting breaks but they're really good at getting brand awareness in states gotta and and those and is there a time limit on those. How long's what's the time you go as long as one? Let's say like the XC minutes but and I've seen some that long in the platform. I think if unionists innocent Max. I'm not sure because there was changing a lot of things. The only thing is that the real people watch now. DVD's they're performing best right. Now are very short teasers. Fifteen to twenty seconds which no sound. Because it's kind of silent platform you know. People are not expecting time. Fat Trim Interest Chris user if that person who is watching the penalties watching TV or the person adjusting the phone getting are in Russia starlight. The are are made it to the carpeting in the sound is not expected so if you yes. No one's without sound forming better in realities adviser. He liked to have a cultural action. Like you know. Let's say you're talking about five. Best fitness tips for back pain. So you WanNa bring the first Steep and then maybe WanNa bring the second theme and then you're going to say. Hey you know other people clicked on boom. Yeah yes using the teaser. At you could use a little snippet of Vigo couching heads which is like that. You know looking straight to the camera in pocket. Something is not being well. Gotcha okay it could. But it's not yet but let's say you have a voice over you know in that as an image or something that's different. Yeah so video L. travelling you probably want to do captions on the videos. Yes always yes yes I can to catch a lot of ways in which she you wanNA share be destroyed the platform. So that's one of the ways would be applauding straight platform now. We were talking about. So you have this on been you have to create images just and you keep in mind the size of images and images that perform well they have Overly kind of hinting. What is is that content about or even you could put a call to action? Let's say if we're talking about the fitness coach at say if that person wants to grow his emails in he had his little. PDF Jeff that you can the whole exchange for email and he can put a nice image say what he's talking about the five at the best exercise recites routine to lose lose twenty to thirty two bit. How Mommy Pouch are to get fit for? Holidays are whatever. Today's are to do a better push right so any can even add. You'RE GONNA adequate traction click to download for free for printable. We can put a little more hapworth the image different ways that we can do it so the person knows that wants it tax. It's going to be sent challenge. PAGE GONNA be expected to download God so we've got our content. We've got our goal. We've got content Videos that are short that are with text overlay particularly the IOS or images in the same format or it's overlay Easy to see what's going on in the deceiver member there. Most of the users are mobile. Right right so we want something. That's either Torid we log script phones. They look beautiful but if they're not easy to read yes in how Alex think about the contrast of the callers you know how they look in the background. How'd they get attention in how they could be easily read? Let's put it this way. And under in that aspect usually images images without a face are without I contact reform better and that is the reason behind it. Interest users are planners their planning. They say they're like people. Are they have the whole house makeover done on pinterest before they even buy a house. The market was me. But you have people with their wagons plan before the interface. Yeah it is so may apply any. They don't WanNa see a celebrity showing. Hey this is my house. Yeah they WANNA see the house in. They want to imagine themselves on that house. Right right so once the icon Packed in the face into tragic fanatic. You're you know that feeling of them. Imagine themselves unsalvageable. Seemed like travel if you're booking Treat you don't WanNa see the person sitting around the place. The person taking pictures from the bags are looking the horizon like. Oh yeah exactly. Put yourself in that picture. So that's a really interesting psychology thing about pinterest and I never knew as the I'm trying to sell fees trying to connect with you. It's not really the platform for that. It's more about than just objects are just kind of pictures about things in your home home or whatever it may be but not necessarily you because they want imagine themselves in that spot very interesting What would be the next step? Zones got their content how to nail down the say they're posting rigs somewhat consistently Yes we she's married Clark and one thing that we cannot never forget in. You need to understand fan that it's been I is burner and you will understand except wants to know how the content is shared in the platform. So let's say European European this image. That has a cure description that has only in that sense website. Graham wants to that to the platform interest of course is gonNA lean on help. People engage with rich usually the people who civil seat I your followers even though followers are not that important but those are the first one and at the same time the. Ai is when a crawl in the image in the description in the euro and that takes time so we to have something called lambs as well which is a visual guidance. Search which you can put a picture and find similar products are similar appeanas related to the image. Okay so you keep in mind. It takes time for a I to go in the pain and Allen. ANAIS those interests. What is that picture related to? What is in the team that relates any doubts? I can read the words and the reason why it's important to make them easy to read data and how long roughly a couple of hours twenty four hour no longer being rolled out which is usually the way we women you may take from fifteen ciardi five days for that to start getting traction in being distributed. Now that's for organic with us. PROMOTED MEANS YOU'RE GONNA I WANNA get more traction Vasser Vasser. Yeah is that could be 'cause you're putting somebody in the US specifying things that you want to do. Conflict is not a pay to play for me yet. Okay we are not available but it different shades. Of course they're paying for each. You can expect to move faster. Yeah but each year and are paid for in. That's another beauty of people is that you're putting on content there for free yet. It didn't kidney and other teams usually opposed on instagram. How long does us our problem with it? Yeah you're very lucky. Twenty four hours Pinterest content lasting three four months plus. Wow so for example now on the platform you start looking for seasonal pumping. Wouldn't you're GONNA be seeing Now that was supposed to last season and now it's exploding. which is another thing? That's very important when you post doc. Evergreen competent are even seasonal content. Should be refreshing that conch. Because it's not gonNA die. Got It so would this be the next step number number three is like you've got your content out there now. We're going to optimize kind of refresh. It well maybe you can see usually when we're talking about blogs or whatever Time time suggests once a year maybe twice a year should refresh updated. especially if you have a feelings you know you just WanNa go back in and take a look again. You can do that in this lowest seasonal because interest has lost season. I could think about it. The logic behind is that interest as using pimples when the inside so guess what Senator Prime re outside. We're enjoying baby. We are looking into somebody in saving for later. which is a positive thing that we sell out some reports reports saving function for later? But they're of course they're planning follow reading this summer but they are not going to be consuming as much as they are in the Clermont So the time that we get the warmer months maybe next time he'll okay. No that your traffic is going to be crazy. Little in time to optimize in get ready for the season which starts when kids go back to school goddess August August to December is probably the busiest season. What about up to Costa Valentine's Day? Okay I was going to ask you more years. And yes. New Year's resolutions are yes and now everybody all in you. They also another thing from good practice. The Patriots suggests and is that you start penny seasonal company forty five days sooner so so it's pretty much like you know. People were super upset. How come during the summer? They were selling Halloween a target. Well guess what target is right. They'll summertime releasing Konkan for fall inhaler and right now. It's time to release competent for Christmas. If you are releasing folk punk and now Late in the game is to yes too late. It's not going to get traction 'cause you're GONNA get traction but are not as much in not as fast as he could so you'll miss missile mason opportunity. He at got interest people are planners they're planning that makes a lot of sense. Yeah that makes a lot of sense so so what would be the next step to Kinda take this up. I love how we just went off on their often. Just kind of talk about the plenty aspect and and also when to post your content But what would be the next step for someone looking very very very impact on the end you can do it at your seven. People often come in say how many times they should folks being because you know with instagram. You can the whale with one to three times a day but when it comes to Pinterest we want to send a signal to the platform that you are reacquaint. Creators in reactor to contribute to the platformer in interest could not survive without funded. So reality look into pan. Beams a day up to twenty Some people go farther but honestly I haven't seen a real results going along the twenty or thirty during ahead Susan but some people will go but that doesn't doesn't mean that this is only your content. Pinterest will not penalize you if you're post only are each other's people's content and actually curator Cheer Rating Hopkins is very valuable especially when you're beginning because you don't have that much function you're still building after images you WanNa wait until you have a hundred piece of funk onto share sooner so they suppress realize that you are there. You're alive in your president effect from. Yes so you'll gonNA try hi to you know. Be doing that temples today. Five points today at the keys consistency interest likes better each apples five day. Then then you just sit on the weekend in post fifty in it is what it is now. You can do manually. You can schedule within the platform form which works if you start doing it yourself and you have some time. You don't have that much you can schedule within the platform for free are there are other schedulers just like any social media beatrice does not penalize you for scheduling to a scheduler as long as it. You know it's not a partner but if you know the Pinterest Nape Guy is working with it. I'm not making any commercial show back as a painter especially in most of the PINTEREST specialists they work with failing EPP HAIL WIND TAILWIND OAK. Okay but the thing is that they are amazing. They have fantastic features in the pinterest arbor. Got It I was GonNa ask you the next question on like Whoa. How do you schedule all these pins if we're going to do and wants to have the content dawn you can sit ou- spend? Let's say one hour after week scheduling having everything as so they can be released into just the management in the beginning. You want to believe in you know move around do some searches lead accounts editor using this would be regular user. Now you feel our business anyone. I one these as fast as possible. You're going to have had a higher volume in the beginning. What's what is is we kind of covered our as of twenty thirty pins but it see but I think he's an old truck? Same you can go with candidate you can. You can start at five thirty. The best number is a number of works for your content. Because the other thing. Okay if I have a content can I pin it every day. No but can you create different images caulkins right N.. Opinion once a day. Yes God okay so I just me. Policies that the work of the fat farm that make the platform recognize the content as fresh concord. San It's not gonna be spammy it's going to be fine. Got It would be something an examples using bad if you could think of one that like would consider spamming if it's like obviously they don't want you posting the same picture over and over again or I don't think anyone would do that I I have. I haven't seen lately much but I've seen before at people let's say they would have won. Pollstar one product because again in a product or anything in it would have have the same image and they would put in a role Pants and then. How do you see that because at one of a a profile options that we have we can pick one bar in feature and also the pin piles showing that? That's usually the most common way that people do. And you would see that whole profile. Barb one imaging imaging okay somebody pin crazier anything. He described out. You'll see now on that ever a good strategy. I don't think so but a lot of people are doing. Interest in selling service without really knowing gets account across can get blocked. Orbit are a lot of times maybe pinterest ONC- until somebody complains because you can report breath they wanna make sure. That user has the best experience in the platform so if an user is annoyed by the image because the image does not relate to the content art images spammy or it's showing the time they can that content and you're GonNa get slap on the wrist. Are you could get your account. Locked looked far and our our our appeal. So yeah that's good. That's good to know what would be the next kind of step into taking this to the next level after we've we've kind of method go you'll got dot com have your goals. Are you Heather Crompton. You made sure in order to optimize the account because of being not much about was he awards in that's the subject because if you're using interest as a search engine he was for the same way that SEO needs keywords and they're not exactly the same but they could be assembly thing so you know you're going to pack in Award Award on search anyone series off colorful tiles underneath those records. You WanNa make sure that you're counting when you ride the description you you add. The keyboard is when you. Let's say for a podcast. You would say Louis Louise Ryan are always the but but I would suggest within the next next week. PODCAST podcast. There are whatever the Piper a podcasting coach add some cures that relate in that that's awesome meters descriptions so you WanNa have everything optimized skewered which is username which is the description. The board names the opin descriptions averaging debare description and I do know log going far back. You know the warning that I'm using in the text rex. Overly of the image has some words because guess not. It's being read right right. The image is being read. Solid skewered everything To have the account optimized. So you're going to have consistency. You've gotTa make sure that you're gonNA keep eating your competent in creating new company. And then I think what's. Let's get stabbed that stage. That's when you WANNA be looking back in your competent. See what needs to be refreshed out so you start looking at analytics and see what's working and what's not working because sometimes at one you're one side is gonNA work from what I've had. One Post is gonNA works better than the others sometimes on images work better than the artist in not always. We can't identify why but wants to get what works best you can try to replicate advocates say viral pins. I don't like the word viral at someone mention him as a legacy funes way ever count has one which is a that for some reason got so much love from people that it keeps on giving advice. That is always traffic coming to the web site. Back from imaging from time is the worst image that you just wanted to die but once you cannot replace the image you can delete the pin which is never recommended mended but you cannot replace image so you WanNa go on your website you wanna use Google analytics. You WanNA use APP interest Alex now they have a new system in Israel. Really good but you obviously going to be going in tracking you can see as likely which even each opinion the same image five clients older tied European but you could be in the senior L.. We five even different images track which flood gauge that boasts and it never dies. Got It so. That's important sometimes in some of the Times it's a repeal. PM Bear Boar in tend to signal to pinterest needs needs is very valuable showing right right good just by the log rhythm in what people are saying how they're engaging in today the analytics ask. If you don't WanNa do it. There are people who can do that for you but it it's not very hard to see now followers Account in that something that we don't WanNa be worried about. Yes it's not. They don't really have the count but not as important you can have a high number of Click throughs waved hundred followers are. You can have an account with eight thousand followers. We've about one hundred clicks and I have examples of that in the reason why in that cave because the content is not being refreshed and not just the content ethnic pins but we are in the conference getting old. How long after you post something would you go back and refine it typically well? It didn't impact in the blog post. I'd like once a year twice a year. It it really depends on also see the thing is that we don't want to focus on just refreshing the phone if we can focus on creating content But it's kind of a balance okay in some competent can last longer but if the content season I even the content had links affiliating. You'll want to make sure that those are our working because it would hate for someone that wants. Whatever you're you're talking about and they go on your website in they quickly? which could? He's a profit inexpensive nothing right. Yeah exactly I think this is a very comprehensive kind of guide and I. I didn't know a lot of this. So this has been awesome Trees anything else that you want to mention last before when we saw for leaving off here that would be super important for people to really take the next level it now. It's that I'd say just one because I did say one only is trivial. The part of the search engine but but being the search engine unit to keep in mind that interests values the images because that's who Interested in our subject is Amos's in then but they have to have with Girard's that's right. They have to have good content and consistency and if they sign it takes time sometimes. It doesn't that means that she cannot see results into three months. But it means that depending on your niche evil sits now to get a decent amount of traffic so don't give up keep tweaking hip going. Yeah it's really interesting that it takes fifteen to forty five days for it to really start to pick up traffic which is it's completely opposite from other platforms. So yes now I have crashes for you and I think that's very interesting which other platform out out there. Can you share one different linked everytime your post something with every image outside of facebook. There's nothing really out album. Oh and now we're GONNA make it even harder for you. Can you Ellie to every image in people are trained to click on it and get out of the fat from an Hrvoje Lousy Chill to make it easier for people to get out yes different likely. No no it's that's more pinterest. I see really interesting. 'cause they don't Analyze things so actually you know it allows you that. So that's why it's a no brainer. Yeah Yeah and I'm even looking here. And I see a lot of podcasters. CASTORS or people are putting their shows or or they're talking about how to start a podcast here and so it's definitely something that people are obviously looking interesting stat. Dad Played Any Been Valuable. Why not have their? Yeah exactly people are interesting are looking for. We don't have some podcasters that are ebbing really really well interest and you know they're doing extremely images than anything even use the images that you have ready for your podcast you can put them an endless. Yeah I think this is a really really good talk because I think it should be really important for podcasters. Who are looking to do this or looking just to figure figure out? Where the key roles can we grow without having linking to my show or whatnot and this is something that's GonNa last longer than other places like facebook and instagram? And now quick advice that I see in a personal thing when you're heading linked CIA video or even your embedded in the page or even a podcast little blurb about got it right now have a paragraph explaining what people expected. What are they going to see if they only seem otherwise people might just bounce in the reason? If you're moving from this platform initiatives being saying you know Let's see in a podcast about five full property. chill-out your podcast the quake on it and I got a page with a picture in only two quick again. Why am I gonNA do that? 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A Friend for All Seasons

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A Friend for All Seasons

"Welcome to get sleepy. The cost where we listen, we relax. and. We get sleepy. I'm Thomas your host. The way this podcast works is very simple. You. Just pick an episode. Press play and get comfortable in bed. We'll take a moment to relax. And then I or one of my friends will read you a bedtime story designed to gently grasp your attention and guide you to sleep. The more you tune in the more effective, the podcast will be putting you to sleep. So. Be sure to listen every night wherever you get your podcasts, so you never miss a good night's rest. Don't forget. You can now subscribe to get sleepy premium. You have full access to our entire back catalogue of stories and Meditations. Plus an exclusive bonus episode, each and every Thursday. and. It's all completely ad, free. would be so grateful to have your support. And thank you so much to everyone who subscribed already? It goes a long way to helping us. Keep this podcast on MIA. If you're interested. You can sign open our website at get sleepy dot com slash support. Or just follow the link in the show nights to learn more about. Get sleepy premium. A now. Tonight Story. Where a seasonal tradition with a dear friend! Gives you time to relax nature. I'm build long lasting memories. It set in Canada's beautiful I'll Konkan Provincial Park? I really think you're going to love this one. In a time when many of us still can't say our friends as freely on normally as we used to. This story should help to rekindle that warm, happy feeling of good friendship. Being in the presence of a friend. Or, even just hearing the voice over the phone. Come work wonders for our mood and wellbeing. And I want you to know. I, consider you a friend of mine. A kind and supportive one at Latte. By listening to this podcast, you're gifting me with your appreciation. which is what good friends do? So as you listen tonight. Just know the you have a friend in me. Now. Preparing to drift off in a nice cozy state of mind. Take a deep breath in. Home for a moment. And release. Let's do one more of various. Breathing in. and. Back out. And then. Let, your breath fall into a nut true. Slower Pace. That feels right the year. Notice the areas of your body. Move with the breath. And noticed those. That remain still. Just look out for any tension or discomfort. That you're holding in your body. Wherever that discomfort might be. Just tense the muscles in that area. As you drawer in your next breath. Hold the tension for a few seconds. And then. Breath out. And release. You may need to do this two or three times. Perhaps more. But for each area of the body. That e focus on. Notice how the sensation changes! As you release that tension. Your muscles soften. And these their grip. Your body has plenty to support you today. So. It's time for it to rest stop. Whether you're asleep or awake at any given time? Your body will appreciate. The chance to lay back. And Relax. So there's nothing to worry about. Whatsoever, We need to do right now. is to get comfortable. Close Your eyes. And listen along. TO THEY SEND DARING STORY Of good friendship. It starts on a peaceful spring morning. You awake to the gentle Of Your Bedroom Fan. When you wake up in the morning. You look outside your window. To see the world in bloom. A tingle of excitement sweeps three. As you. Remind yourself what today will bring. The fast time in. Your best friend will be visiting. swaddled in blanket. Gays out from your wooden cabin. Seeing the maple tree. Spring flowers. And fans all around you. Your quiet home is situated in grassy clearing. Tulips daffodils and some flowers. who turn their heads up to look at the Sun? It's time for you to. To come of your hibernation. And, immerse yourself in your beautiful surroundings. Your friend has been part of your life for as long as you can remember. In your youth. The two of you spent the majority of your free time together. Exploring. Playing. And enjoying the truth bound that friendship can bring. Your friend moved away for work as adulthood brought new responsibilities. And opportunities. However. You both committed to a promise. You would keep a tradition alive. And visit your favorite place. Once each season. Of every year. And that place. Is the beautiful. About gone. Today is one of those occasions. Right on cue, you see a familiar figure coming into view on your driveway. Your friend Luke's up the long grapple path. Grinning in anticipation of your spring tradition. You get dressed. Pertinent light jacket. A move outside to me. She greets you with a strong hug. Enhance your womb travel mug filled with T-. You thank you. And take sit. The, distinct flavor is soothing. And the rich sent easy issue to wake. As you begin to walk down the driveway. Maple tree stand to own around. Covered in new green leaves. Until recently, they were still buried in snow. But the change in weather. Has Brought Right Samaras. That look like jade bottom is. Nestled in their branches. At the end of the driveway. You turn left. And whoop down familiar trail. Wild Mushrooms the path. That flat Brown whitecaps. Shining in the sun. You take a moment to enjoy the warmth on your face. Often long cold winter. A light breeze brushes your cheek. Carrying with it the AROMAS of spring. Pollen in the flowers. And the fresh smell of new garage. Peeking out of the soil. As you chat with your friend. The BADS CHAP above he. That unmistakable chorus exercise through the forest. A pair of Gray Jays. Why I've had. Zooming toward the lake. You off them. Watching the birds disappear into black. In the sky. The two trees around she. Seemed to go on forever in either direction. Dense Interior Avow Gong Quinn Park. Is Home to many trees. Rivers. Lakes. And Animals And you're excited to be able to explore the habitat. Now that it's hibernation is over. Everything is just the same as it's always being. Despite all the years that have passed since you and your friend I want these routes. You each point out landmarks along the way. Objects that hold meaning a memories the. Moments of childhood laughter. Stream back through your mind. And you reminisce about many the same things that you always do. Soon the trail slots downward. and. You get your first glimpse of the round back late. The smell of fresh Warton meet cheer. As you follow the trail to its AD. When you arrive on the show. You take a moment to enjoy the majesty. Of the Great Vista in front of. ood! Your left. You see the boat. Where you're trustee wreck. Is Waiting. Together, you'd lifted off the shelf. and carry the boat to the water's at. Fasten your life. And step into the canoe. Your friends sits on the bow holding it steady. Whilst you find your seat. In the back of the boat. then. She launches she off the show. Jumping in with an amusing sense of urgency. The two of you, laugh and smile. As. You gently float away. into the expensive body of water. Steering from the back. You enjoy a slow paddle around the lake. In the distance Beavis a busy building there Dan. You had a slap of their tails on the water. As. They warn passing Predator. Utan your boat. And paddle through a cluster of water lilies. That white flowers reflecting the sun. A small green franc's jump from Pat Pat. The price orange. Sitting high in the sky. glitters on the lake. You take a deep breath in. Release a slow breath. BACKOUT! Enjoying the feel. Of the world springing back to life around you. There is so much to see. It is home to a vast array of wildlife. On one spring occasion. When you and your friend was still in your teenage years. You visited with your parents. As usual. You canoed out onto the lake. But this time. You joined by a wild Moose. who was paddling in the water itself? Cooling off and quenching it's fast. The creature didn't seem too fast by your presence. As, all of you watched in awe from a distance. It was quite remarkable saying this majestic, Moose. Enjoying the simple pleasures of a swim. Every time you visit. There is always an aura of discovery in the air. You at one with nature. And you never know what you might see. As you pattern along. You look to the other side of the water. You can see a stone, Ridge. With Gray, rocky surface, rising from their. Adding texture to the scene. The still surface of the lake. Mirrors a replica image of the rich. And it's like seeing Dabo. After an hour or so in the canoe. You. Pull back onto the shore. You in your friend. Disembark the boat. And sit down by the water's edge. As she lay by the water. You feel a great sense of gratitude. Cherish this friendship. It's the kind where you just enjoy Chavez presence. Nothing special needs to occur. And you feel comfortable. Moments of silence Watching the clouds drift across the sky. With this. You're daydreaming mind. Transport you. Back to particularly idyllic visit. To you three summers ago. The weather. Was Sublime. Not a cloud in the sky. Grass turned dry straw light color. You recall a small red folks. The crisscrossed the trail on your strong down from the link. Disappearing periodically. To Hunt in the dense forest umbro. Sun's heat was warming. Causing a few light trickles of sweat. To form on your forehead. Familiar Black Lake. Is Always so welcoming in the summer heat. You and your friend. whooped down the path where an extra yard of pace that day. Eager to reach the water. Rather than putting your canoe out of the shed. Your friend ran and jumped straight into the water. A bright green swimsuit stood out against the dark surface of the water. As she plummeted in with a cooling splash. You followed after her. Running and laughing. Anticipating the brace of cold water on your body. As you jumped into the lake. The water instantly washed the sweat from your skin. And filled you with energy. Sandy mud beneath. Out Soft, and gooey between your tone. You. Dave had fast on the water. Touching the bottom of the lake with your hands. As your Hash around you. Returning to the Saffi's. You wrote on your. To float in the water. Remember the contrast of the cool liquid. Son. You can still feel jury sensation now. He took some time to bring afloat. Watching the blue sky above. And delighting in everything about this. then. The sound of your friends splashing in the water behind you. Drew, your attention. He turned and swam in her direction. She pointed out some small fish. Racing around nearby. The two of you worked. They dotted one way and another. Maintaining close knit. SYNCHRONIZED FORMATION! As Yukon's further up the lake. Several other visitors were paddling around. Indeed. Certain areas tend to attract not if for. And can be hot. Spots for tourists. Bodies. What's so special? About your small patch of shoreline. It's your secret secluded spot. Off The beaten, track. And only accessible. If. You know the specific route to get here. You feel a tap on your shoulder. No, your is. Returning from that lighthearted memory. Back to the present moment. Your friend is sitting up. Smiling happily. She has been day-dreaming to. She passes you a sandwich and some snacks from the picnic basket, but she's Bro. As, you enjoy the scrumptious food. You look at the flourishing forestry own around. Your friend recounts. Post, visit. That had just come to her mind. The season was full. The sugar maple leaves. Currently illustrious green. Turned red. Brown and yellow. The scene resembled a watercolor painting. With, a true smorgasbord of colors. You were both wrapped up warmly. With scarf around your neck. And a few layers to keep your body heat tin. The crisp afternoon. was nourishing. Filled with a sweet scent. From the Phoolan leaves. On this occasion, your friend had brought a steaming flask, a freshly brewed coffee. From hell local RISTORI. You'll never forget the invigorating smell. An even better. The delectable flavor. With this memory. Your mind travels back to that moment. Only a completely different world head. Compared to the bright green of the spring and Summer seasons. Leaves crunched and crumbled and your boots. And your scarf billowed around you in the wind. It was the kind of full weather that encourages a day exploring the outdoors. Squirrels jump, from, branch to branch. Reddish Brown for. Blending with the scenery around them. When you reach the lake that day. You entered the boathouse. To bring out to camping, Chaz. which she set up on the beach. You're frank. Avid, some large flat rocks from the forest. And together. You built a fire pit. You retreated back to the trees together kindling and would. You remember that the Fordham brought chase felt rough and dry in your hand. And shadley stuffing's of. As you brush them all. You got the the logs in a big pile next to the pet. And began building a fire. You started by laying down dried leaves and small twigs. then. Built teepee, shape. Over the pile. With medium sized stakes. You friend pulled a lighter out of poppy. And started the flame. The PHYA SPA. Glowing orange rate. From deep within. You watched this slowly crumpled. Giving light to the tweaks. And then to the largest sticks around them. As the flame grew. You added some larger locks. Enjoying the self team. The boom your face. Chest. And hands. You remember tracing the outline of the rising smoke. As it traveled over the black. Spanning for miles in front of. Tiny sparks drifted over it surfaced. Before running out. And disappearing into thin, air. The some began to set over the league. Tanning the sky, all shades of happen. Pink and yellow. Making a rainbow of color. With the autumn leaves. The fire banned under the glow of a nearly full moon. Providing light for you to sit and play card games with your friend. You Remember one point. Two of you laughed so hard. That you both started to cry. It was the deep bill aiming kind of law. It just be held back. As though it came from some blissful part of your so. As the sun left the sky. The two of you gazed up at the thousands of stars above. Invalid the. Doubtless of space. You identified some constellation. LIKE THE BIG DIPPER! And, a Ryan's bound. Alone cloudy streak of brightness revealed itself. You knew it was the Milky Way. In nearby Bush's. Firefly's twinkling. Just like the stars. As, though mimicking the NI- Tobar. The fire kept you born? and. Your friend kept you company? There are many beautiful nights here. But you had never seen the sky with so much clarity before. And you haven't since either. There was no light pollution. Just the subtle hues the fire. And the ship. Of the White Moon. Reflecting off the lake. When your friend finishes recounting memory. Your awareness returns to today. The memory of the Shimmering Moon is replaced by the present image of the sun on the water. You Smile, and look at your friend. The two of YOU LA. As you remember how your scarf needed two or three washes to finally remove the lingering scent of smoky fire. From that autumn night? By now the sun is starting to journey downward. As daylight begins to withdraw. Your secluded beach spot. is now completely shaded. By, the encompassing trees. You fail few Q. stumps on your arms and legs. As a cool evening, breeze caresses your skin. The Tingo down your spine. Reminds you that it wasn't long ago when you and your friend were here? In a completely different scene. The air was cold. And the ground was hard. Unfrozen. Under a blanket of snow. As you rest in the setting sun. You retrace your movement. On that blissful when Tuesday The world all around. Hibernation. The leaves had disappeared from the trees. Leaving only icicles. Hanging from their branches. With the four Legion hiding. A broader expensive land. Showed itself across the distance. Battery stretched on for miles in every direction. Amongst the trees. You saw a great greyhound. Fly through the sky. And land on a frosted Bronx. It's fluffy grey feathers. Looked so cozy. Keeping the bad warm through these cold winter months. You remember consciously slamming your step. As you approach the sloping edge of the lake. Unlike the black expense. Greets you during other seasons? The lake that day. Was Pio wine. Covered in a layer of ice. And frosted with a touch of snow on top. You and your friends sat on a phone and tree trunk. And changed into your ice skate. As, you slayed your feet inside. You felt the womb padding. And the fan support of the lady poop. Was the same path that you had been using for several years? Still. As good as ever. Ever. Eager friend launch task L. Onto Lake. Gliding across the surface with these. You watched have ripple out from under her hat. She skated in circles. And picked up speed. Once your skates tied. You joined on the friends and lake. 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331: Nick Church  How to quickly replace your day job income with photography

PhotoBiz Xposed

41:15 min | 2 years ago

331: Nick Church How to quickly replace your day job income with photography

"These photocopies x episode number three hundred and thirty one and today with talking with a photographer who was the MD of a software company he through that in to go full time photography after only shooting since two thousand and sixteen talk just two years to create you have an apartment with no Wifi so the insurance company has said go out and get a Wifi dungle off I went to the fine shop join my laptop across the room what's happened is the apartment wherein does not have WIFI which is unbelievable I know ages and welcome to this episode of the podcast looking forward to bringing you nick's story and the strategies behind his success in just a minute before we get in Wifi connection serenity now or I don't know if you've ever experienced I'd say issues and troubles of you I t. experience this morning and I can't think of anything more frustrating than it issues I mean I felt like she doesn't want me to turn the music off but I need to have quiet so I can record this and I've worked in already frustrated and upset in such a long time if you've been following along I've the last few episodes you probably know that insurance company has us in a fantastic successful wedding and portrait photography business joined injury is he interviews successful photographers and business experts your success rental property that Sara Begum and this place is amazing we we can see wiles jumping in the ocean while we're eating breakfast in the living the dining room it's it really is amazing I am not complaining one little bit about the apartment but I have had the most frustrating now before we jump into that interview with Nick if you haven't heard last week's episode it was it's just all my God I can tell you I was I was ready to to throw I on an aggressive person man but always ready to throw things AAC we'll get to sit on the front step in the sun with roxy a miniature schnauzer take a deep breath and just relax from you that so two that are usually share a little bit about my waking what's been happening and I've gotTa tell you has been the most frustrating morning have exp exactly how he runs his facebook ads strategies and he's third party marketing alliance with in conjunction with facebook ads that are bringing ms frustrating as I do I don't know if you feel like throwing things across the room occasionally like I said I'm not aggressive but man I was on my limit I was on the edge this morning things have back under control of settling Rut with the music on she's working away inside the home on on our front balcony and happily recording with a great leave a comment under the post get it off your chest you're awesome fixing this let me know as well because I'll be hitting you up next welcome to the photo B.'s voiced podcast with your host Andrea Hill Niche Andrew Helmet from impact what leads and judging by the feedback from premium members on that episode it's an absolute coca there's no reason based on the along perfectly and then it just drops stops working and I've got a reboot my computer I've got a race dot crime to turn off my emails and reese and then gene over ninety percent of the lead his business and these sign leads these leads that come from these facebook ads and these alliances producing an average one photography business podcast with Andrew Helmets photo Biz x dot com already. We're going to jump into this interview with me across the ruined this morning I had to pack out come back to our home which looks like a bomb has gone off in this place looks like we've just moved in there are boxes everywhere which style of over two thousand eight hundred Australian dollars so those two strategies he's lied the net step by step exactly how he does it in that premium members it is a nightmare that really is enough or if you've had experiences like this share them in the group my two blocks we leave it's pretty normal around here in Australia certainly in in the suburbs anyway I digress if you listen to the free version of this and so she can see that she just turned musical anyway or do you feel better after we had a framing members only episode with Joel done he was an absolute cracker Joe came back he agreed to come back onto the podcast to share with Joe and few the easy access that is the go-to photocopies x dot com Ford slash more leads so it's BS x dot com forward slash it's totally free for members it's there it's available to you I'm not sure if you can hear that motorbike in the background that's that's how local postie you have do you have postmen we city of the two strategies while you can't sit up and running in your photography business once you've gotTA listen you're listening to the number let's get on with the show let's see if we can get something from Nick that you can implement into Your Business and get my mind in your mind of RT issues the first time in twenty four it took just two years to create a successful business that could match his corporate salary important when you have a mortgage with nick get access to the full back catalogue get an invitation to the members only facebook group where you'll find over nine hundred other like monitor and what's ridiculous about it is another that almost sittings correct everything is working fine a walk in close to my wife I can excellent time everything's perfect I go to the geography is in the most supportive friendly and helpful facebook group a professional photographers you will find anyway guaranteed federal bs x Dot Com the phone company to get one of these WIFI with God and it feels like this thing is just laughing at me like it connects it's gone Kost Youtube can access that interview with Jal dumb but you will need a premium membership we can pay to access that individual interview that post is job as MD slash safety O of a software company to become a photographer to be first wedding in two thousand and sixteen after picking up a camera portion of the second half of this interview with Nick because I saved that part of the interview specifically for premium members so if you're loving what newcaster share in the first half of this interview manage that many people I imagine I guess I would describe it as having a golden set of handcuffs on it must be hard to walk away from something like that and you'd like to access the full interview hit two photo BS x dot com forward slash try and for one dollar you can grab trou- membership get flexes to the full interview let's see metrics and things like that for the operators I it doesn't sound very photography related at all Ford Slash try if you WanNa get all that grace is it's time for Andrew Special guest today's guests gave search in just a second if you are in this announcement it does mean you are listening to the free version of the podcast and that means he will be missing out on a lodge in the episode from last week now if you our premium about you should have received an email from me there's also post inside the Memphis group when hey you can access that interview I'm maybe maybe he can just be someone to talk to if you've been through the same experience as me because man I really felt like I needed a shoulder to lean on this morning kids now after good look at his website and social media you'll see his work is great he does beautiful he's website as well light out it has full crossing available free woke people watching will they went watching skipping vice those things without dates who's a big data products within the useful talks advertising so it was difficult it it does make it harder because that barrier to entry is higher but I think it just shows your web will what you need I think the key is you have just md that's managing director chief technical officer is yeah so what was that job it was working for a fast is based in Bristol in the I'm talking about Nick Church and I'm looking forward Zeleny move nick welcome might high examined me pleasure in fact going to photography just to get the same salary Christophe that was what needed bearing in mind in that transition when I was doing thing forty software engineers and project managers and it was a really great companies voice me exciting but as you say it is nothing related join a have the place ready before the cops is coming tomorrow and is just an absolute shambles I'll walk in Lena's upset with me because she has a music blaring and you tend to leave the macaroni people live under or beneath their owning so did you have to make a big adjustment when you went to photography I figured it's GonNa take you about eighteen months to do that so you decide to do that and not decision was a conversation with my son he was then I think he was eleven or twelve hours in the position was for companies is low cost pay TV streaming services and we had a platform that was dealing with will be wants to see everything looks in order as would be from most pro photographers to what isn't immediately obvious to me is how he grew his business you decided okay this is it I'm going to keep my nitis like what state was photography business that it was the ton of decided to excite the kids who call mortgage and so on was excessive vitamins but it was enough I couldn't just stand tools Elsa guy for six months beds level is and then you plan for that right because when I use a tim golden handcuffs I guess a lot of that it would be in regards to the fact that I want you running in a man want pipeline in the next year give myself a year of known business or project business stolen bookings have lost year it make sure that you know what income you can nate to be able to keep keep living keep having having a life and you can you can tighten belts failures doesn't need to be exactly the same but Eugenie tonight what that meant have a plan where that was the end distinction because you wanna think right on going to do this and then you look at how it's going to take you to the case academic continue to work towards that that was so at that point it was the Putnam Moaning showing our hot enough business else to build up a good number of kits and that's the thing so when did transition I didn't have to start investing into kit and things like that so tell me about the time when you took Van Hall of doing it imagine doing that for job he's just do it and I could really good why we also came up with by bills ah the job I did have was excellent preparation if it was crappy photography preparation but having a job this seated in business the night by meetings he's difficult because Louis Whatever sorry can we have your lifestyle fills that guy and when photography was ramping up that was a year great had I two incomes actually even though it might Casanova was was that it was going back to the noble life of just having not having that extra income to being a full and I was really missing that creative kind of part of my life and that's when so we started up so filled by a person in your position with that role oranges just signed it the bit length myself so we still start this plan is doing it was building up the photography alongside I can do this I need it to be able to clear seventy K.. UK Pants so I guess as UK pounds. I told my Ozzy Yeah that's the way I look at it is you do sound if you're negative about that is such a first world problem is to have income projections and risk Men I was pretty good at thinking what highway predict my income that's 'cause isn't just the bookings whole fairly certain business lights come in to risk there was risk that but it was enough that author appreciate we're going to be a kind of his next twelve months gonNA matchmakers support of bacteria absolutely say we knew it was going to be it was it's not the most sensible thing to do but yeah I mean software engineer is not known if we took a spreadsheet and chuck's code something then that's the way to solve it not defaulting is APPs explosive and yet put night buys into it and we talked about whether would be better to do this leap into photography may be come in and if you're not doing the job that you can market yourself more often because that Muslims in that so I apply the facts I'm probably going to get more vessels bookings nights bright eyed forum slightly and Tassie I love it I've never spoken to a photographer his down a projection might that but I guess that comes from your background and doing that as a very cool we know this works fantastic said that an inch are but it's not like you're not cheating these exotic weddings in these locations getting paid tens of thousands of the United States imagine system it's looking at how many bookings honey lake looking so I get lost Jae Roy let's assume we're GONNA get the same this yet for that she cannot diet and and it was already comforting thing to have to have what we because you did feel that you were just on the leaving job putting anyone a wide range of portfolio Ashi exhibiting night in various cafes and things like that not censor and couples were coming in saying that what so even though they weren't coming along only not supporting I figured why it's another so that's my husband is not always the number you're targeting what was the number you had to turn over the number of bookings you had to have on the books risk family restaurants but but it was you had some backup set of figures which showed that they should be doable just the same as any sulfur project to any project that we would do circle I skipped some of that by having some restrung shots of other things that people engage with the connected with that work on taken at his experts she built up which was projects England and all of this comes down to a low cases is the we have you project is then a that chunk is firms six out of that's fine and then the rest of it is looking at Yup said that was what I needed so book was going to get that and it was a combination of looking at what bookings had lost yet what because it had already at that was hard because it was right denouncing the hats for busy long hours so I feel like that was tough but it got to a point where perhaps I continued to about with the bit will backup income wise but sir I felt that if I did that just not really be doing that suit stuff before the wedding shooting Bristol Barlett funds are fortunate enough to be traveling around the world with my other job so I was just showed competency arrive it's generally which people that have been happy to take a punt weddings which on stuck it out because Salaam skype so of ready famous scenes in Brazil of Brunell suspension bridge but also just a flower market and a great big of orangerie shooting like what street photography or landscapes. I would say that because I have my background for Tocqueville wouldn't really 'cause it just yet yeah we can do this I'm still make a profit and it's all the same techniques really I love you mentioned your eleven year old son did you play pot and if she get a site when you look at it I I had as you build the income idiot so quickly well I've built up the skills that point I was food business that could match his corporate salary I'm talking about Nick Church and then interviews coming up in just a minute planning to have you can imagine now the experience professional thinking Oh my God this is terrible advice Nikon encourage other photographers it going photograph someone's by Wedding Day contracts the I'm not sure what the terms of signed Roth enjoying company on the payroll but big contracts may be paid to two days a week in Mexico difficulties late how would really be leaping out twelve in something different here I'll pretend she would just find it by because ought to have the time to do either very well and yes she was Sean would reduce Maxim for for their opportunity. If you give me the opportunity to do that I also got a friend of mine she had a wedding just still so she put that back on she came with the kids we went to took some shots of with the children and so that was a few shots with bride in and just like that and as I said with maybe two or three different weddings and you've got enough to show Oh you know this is a day that people entrusting life with you Konkan just with no experience You kinda is long as that is the completely messed it up I was in complete wrong setting so they would ever expect so I decided okay this is GonNa be lighten airy said anyway looks like well so are not GonNa ask you and I'm sure the listeners on the edge of this thing it did you do this in two years because like I said there's not a real indication bookings because I have more time to do that it's all of these things in place especially the figuring that was what was monitoring that was little David Not said that's the a few scattered around with other stuff kinda beacon build a portfolio also when we were in Rotterdam just ought to be kept away tonight although had to edit weddings and stuff from apple juice and things I was in various locations rockets lost different types of way maybe that wasn't weddings it did mean that without enough experience MDA built inside of them. Well I think I let's see this question a lot the two groups of people that you absolutely conc pretty thick-skinned by saying now because that means you'll then more likely just gospel proof you can take the picture and it wasn't really embarrassed by it he will three on the way to the train station things that are less obvious kind of things flights people so people started to buy fewer those things nothing always aware that if you'll never experienced what level of equipment you have happy without that I think that's couples that this was the the thing is I you couples the book you haven't got voted to show them book so you can guess it looks like them not to mention that I wasn't I wasn't the official but I think in all of these things are you have to be that's a couple of getting married they're they're having some photos so I just went into oxygen it's them and now without selling any lies at all ally is more like an oil painting thing that's what you'd like natty but couples Work all looks the same pretty much the same nice different be happy to do that if you sell yourself in the right way because all of the you know a lot of work to us it's very different and I think yourself as a service to provide wedding unsure if someone's wedding overseas or wherever country whatever I think if you applied aw that couple that first couple did they know you or do they found you three website they found me through that one was facebook so successful I think with experience what happens is if you get more of those real banging shots but I think it's the consistency that goes up as you go on site for that first wedding three hundred four point five or something so not really a pro level lens but in my bag is a backup I had a compact camera and thinking why that was flying a big place so think of what I what can I do this corrective favor the very difficult things and other things took longer to you know to improve as you go yes one thing I've been a kid the images like I think if you've got a good eye for Schultz and you know your number which by that I did inside that I had to get resolve when I do these interviews in the past from listeners is taking you the gas from that first wedding letting you get away with saying and from there just grew announced today back now when realize risky so invested in full frame camera by then so the work of able to sell the prints of landscapes and things okay with to fund new kit so that was great so it didn't have a full frame Nikon camera and a couple of lenses I figure fifty lands and extend a easier we're actually shots of people and basic things are harder things were managing the cried Manziel what's do next trying to it is I think you lift the floor of shots the average goes up higher and higher you go until your consistently delivering five hundred six hundred shops the restrung the Brian Mind they've just got married they're happy you're not taking shots instead of that photography you're not reducing the chance then getting the shots and if you're in I in two minutes jeez factor capitalizing as a really important tool when I started at and Sobat was I think that must've taken a look at the second one hundred twenty wedding I'm doing it now down a hundred amiss asked me about that second third and fourth waiting which is so important to building that portfolio getting your it was a couple I remember these twits in those days as well as a few people that family through twitter as well so various ways though is getting the message snacks reflects the cats and setting those early days obviously in the platform heavily emporium I fifty bookings through facebook cats and so this is why during that front of photographers with the because is a platform that's extremely powerful even now with the changes thanks pick of night the changing things all the time to make it harder and harder appearance in your confidence up and should I make the assumption that they came from facebook ads was there something else to it that's why there was tight as much as you were then or the other strategies tactics using to generate bookings a variety now so I do still use I because I'm probably still get have son that in the pipeline that were doing then the first one gay equality confidence it was a lovely venue little time clevedon Lucy maybe thirty forty percents bookings through that rates but not yet set as it becomes a established business you don't want to rely on just one St much harder to get things that are going to be deliverables same standard absolutely it makes a huge difference doesn't absolutely I think that's right-of-ways but facebook probably for the next six months then start to be the main way to get these bookings done that first one and you got people and knowing what you know what it's like to have other people command sacrifices if you also talk perfect if you're if it's okay usually let you come come in tax shelter the that kind of reinforce this view that I have that you have to keep learning through every because every new shoot something different and it's something that we're not quite sure how to deal with to get the best out of it and we can of inquiries cutting it in a by a year ago assaulting while affects the cats all delivering really well and instill Ronald Guy which would be the second I think that would be instagram. You're actually getting some bookings from instagram aside you can still get some really good for certain three face because so that was how did they find me we had to Beijing and to the book in that way I leading the tough the things that would there was a lot of shots they were great but

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Desi Books Ep 41 w/ Lopamudra Maitra Bajpai

Desi Books

21:40 min | 17 hrs ago

Desi Books Ep 41 w/ Lopamudra Maitra Bajpai

"Hello and welcome to episode forty one of the books news and views about they see literature from the world over. I'm your host jenny. Bart thank you for tuning in today in the day read segment. We have doctor logan with remainder batch by reading from a new collection titled. The owl delivered the good news all night. Long folktales legends and modern lore of india. These stories was selected and edited by her from various authors and sources. Dr lopa mudra. Mitra budge by is a visual anthropologist. Writer and international columnist. She teaches at universities in india and abroad. A work focuses on the history popular culture and communication and intangible cultural heritage. Or what is known as i c. h. of india and south asia. She's a guest faculty member at symbiosis university in poon. She's been a culture specialist at the sark. Cultural center colombo sri lanka a research grant fellow at the indian high commission in sri lanka and an assistant professor at symbiosis university in germany. She's also worked as a correspondent at the indian express and the statesman and she continues to be a regular columnist for international dailies in areas of research. She's represented india at various conferences especially concerning intangible cultural heritage or i see age and she's written more than thirty research papers in various journals and books and this is her fourth book length work. The owl delivered the good news all night long. Folktales legends and modern lure of india edited by dr lopa. Matra matra budget pay is a selection of one hundred eight fabulous folktales legends and stories for more than fifty seven languages and dialects from jammu in kashmir in the north to the nicobar islands in the south from the other inaugural bailey and dominant. You in the west. To our nacho prudish in the east and all the other states and union territories of india in between these include tales of heroes and heroines of ordinary men and women of wicked mothers-in-law and foolish sons-in-law of love lost one of a tree who loved to go of sears and wise men of trails where wolves and wizards of a potter girl in the divine cow of denzel cranes and humans transforming into elephants of how the woodpecker got its crest and much much more startlingly original brilliant wise and often. Funny these stories will delight readers of all ages. The transcript of this excerpt is also on the website. And now here's doctor. Lopin with remit watch by. Hello everyone i am. Lupo mantra with robots bay. Thanks to geneva and these books for having me over here today. I'm here to read two stories from my recently released book. The all delivered the good news all night. Long folktales legends and modern lieu of india from alibaba company. Awful publishing house. This was released very recently on the first of august. Twenty twenty one. That two stories that i have chosen today to read for the books titled friend. This story is from our astra and the other one. Is that lead kitchens. They moselle cranes and a true reflection of dave will paula. This one is from rajistan. Firstly i would like to read this story friend from our roster a little about the story. The story friends original name is matron. It is actually a the format of the story is an old firm dotty spoken during the time of the beach bus in the coastal and konkan region. The test been translated and retold by myself after a narration. By guitar really unites doshi of pony. A resident of gwalia had narrated once the story in its original form to the author. It under lucci. It is important to mention that the story belongs to an all form of the muratti language and particularly belonged which to the region of konkan. This is greatly different from the present murata language spoken in the region. At present gwalia is at prison in the state of multiple dish but was once ruled by the murata compassionate story for very young girl. Newly married here goes the story titled friend. This is a story of a long time ago. There lived a young girl named the at thirty s of eight. She was matted off to a man much older than herself. In those days girls were married. As soon as the adaptability does little say went off to live with her in laws however she found a very different surrounding at her inlaws as a husband was mostly at work for lomas and say was left alone at home at home there were many cousins with whom so he would talk and play at all times however at our inlaws so he felt very lonely. Her mother-in-law was not a very interactive person. That's so he began to feel very lonely one day size. His mother's shoulder to speak to a lizard in the kitchen to share her loneliness and one day so so he's spotted lizard close to the cooking area in the kitchen. She was delighted and she began to talk to the lizard. Every she felt. The lizard responded by making a sympathetic jesse jackson from that day onwards so he's knife changed. She became much happier as she found someone to talk to. She would pull her hot out and talk to the lizard as lizard could hear her and replied to her as she would often leaves one amounts of maine and keyed for the lizard and would be happy to see the lizard. Lap it up a few times so he's mother-in-law quarter talking to herself in the kitchen and thought that a daughter was acting very strange. This even increase the mother-in-law to keep a close. I say days boss and one day. I notice that the lizard was getting fat and she realized that the lizard was pregnant. Oh there is good news. I am so happy for you. She said and she took it upon hustle to feed the lizard with food. That would nourish an expecting mother. Shaven did a best to keep a happy and keep speaking to her about the baby that was due to arrive. One day over one hundred. These conversations say mention. I believe that you would be blessed with the bony boy. It will be a smiling day and it would be so wonderful and safe and happy within herself as if she was having an actual dialer with another person however soon that date sell the lizard went missing so utah that the lizard must have gone to her mother's house for delivery. He thought happily. I wonder what the lizard will give birth to a good. What a boy the same night when the lizard. When missing there was a loud knock at the door. Size husband opened the door and found a group of people outside who that taller than regular humans. And we'll all fashioned close there. The soldiers they're performing girls. Who are dancing attendance. Who get it of gifts including jewelry fruits and sweetmeats and two very tall pal cabela's who get it a decorated punky that is balance between the honest person who was standing. There was this to the door bowden sanitation. He had a big mustache. And gary the machine or torch he said greetings lead has been blessed with a son. Just to say madam had predicted off. Queen has sent us to face a madam. for a sediment at bally's she wants to convey her gratitude to say madam had taken excellent careful especially during her pregnancy and the doorman stop as abruptly as he had begun. Anticipating announcer size has been and mother-in-law australia and speechless. Why an older say couldn't believe us and she fainted next. I would like to move on to my next dory from rajistan a story that highlights the need to have a friend relation with the environment and anita around us. The title of the story is kit. John's demos kriens anatole reflection of aditi. Dave will the stories from rajasthan. It's murari and it has been written by g to michelle situated on a major tree junction from the times of medieval india. The tar desert of rajistan has been a stronghold of journalism for hundreds of years however by the beginning of the twentieth century as straight diminished. Large numbers of john morton's moved out in search of work to places as far off as tonight. My soul kolkata delhi and number. That roots of john have seven relation. Release which have been abandoned and left behind. Sometimes the residents be an annual visit during the domus for a couple of months today. Lalji who is mentioned in the story is leading figure as he alone had taken care of the conservation of thousands of demonstrators cranes. That came to the sleepy village of kitin. Every winter from time immemorial it was because i've written dedication and vision that the queen's got the food they needed in the cocker and therefore did not ravage the farmlands of john and the surrounding villages as it is on they have become guests who received very warmly even in present times the story. John's demos cleans and the reflection of aditi. Dave will front register them as dawn breaks over. The sleepy village of kitchen did in the winter months. The felicia heavy wake up from their deep slumber. That cayote crock. Crops calls of thousands of demos and cranes in the skies above the scene appear spectacular for visitors but for the senators. It is just another morning of celebrating life with the ring. Visitors did in the winter months. Every these migratory birds that cleans it feels towards the end of august just after the monsoon rains have ceased they fly in flocks from their breeding grounds on the planes and steps of erasure mongolia to all of a sudden. The sleepy village of kitchen is transformed into a chaotic noisy place. The birds descend upon the village to feed and rest throughout the day. Only to retire for the night on a nearby mount the next morning the greens are back again. Our law space has been demarcated and fenced to feed the cranes every morning everybody throughout the season between november to february five hundred eighties of greens as on the ground. For the boat. This is all beat by donations from the community of the village after the rains have had their breakfast together. Beside upon the story of kitchens association with the migratory birds is ancient but their conservation. Effort is only five years old and has a connection with officer it all started with retinal models uncle who was originally from kitchen but have settled down in also one day. He lived only surf kitchen along with a model to take care of his asian grandmother who was illing and had recently celebrated our hundred foot looking at it either of them known at that time that the decision of returning to the roots would change not only the knife but also the knives of thousands of innocent boots. Once catan that the null found it difficult to sit idle and his uncle interested him with the job that of feeding grains to regents barrows and peacocks that frequented a particular place on the outskirts of the village being a devout jaren both rhythm and his wife like the idea the gareth sackful of brings to the feeding ground and distributed them amongst the birds initially. They're only squirrels battles regions occasionally peacocks but one fine day in september. He saw for the first time. A dozen large black and gray boats feeding on enquiring. The villagers told him that the migratory birds that frequent on every single winter they recalled the most cranes or khwaja in rather time the land stop it eventually. Their numbers increase to eighty one of but in february. All of them disappeared overnight. He had to wait for another year. This time. The number one hundred fifty or so this number gift. On increasing and at present that is a staggering number of around twenty five thousand. Greens will frequent the area and feet and reside during the migratory season in the in the initial stages. It was not an easy task for the as a number of cranes increased often. The village dogs would attack the cranes leaving the cree instead. Badly injured to protect the animals. That the non. I convinced village venture to locate a suitable space on the outskirts of the village later he cokes local people from the gen community to help him build a six foot high fence. In that area the enclosed area was called to or defeating home. The then got a granny meet to store grains with donations that started pouring in from members of the community from all over the village he also got room constructed to treat the injured cranes today in the winter months standing on a nearby terrace beside the two at the break of dawn one can witness a beautiful spectacle flocks of the moselle kriens marching toward the two apart from being spectacular display wildlife. It is associated with a spiritual connection aptly described by the sanskrit phrase. The bukoba or visit is like often. They have been fed. The cranes head off to the nearby vigia saga kill the can be seen goblin copious quantities of fables that are found in abundance on the league show. A strange habit is my scene but this process aids indentation since the greens are eating. Hone the people's act as a digesting agent and just before sunset the cranes quality and fly away to monterey haram assigned. do about twenty five kilometers away from. John rather spend the night standing on one leg the next morning. These beautiful boats at back in qatar. Thank you for listening. You've been listening to episode forty one of the books news and views about they see literature from the world over. I'm your host jenny. Bart thank you for tuning in. Today's they see read segment was from dr lopin with metre badge by reading from a new collection titled. The owl delivered the good news all night. Long folktales legends and modern lure of india. These stories was selected and edited by her from various sources and sources. episode forty. Two will be up shortly. Follow on twitter at. They see books instagram at. They see dot folks facebook at facebook's f. b. tack the accounts if you have requests or suggestions email at they see books at facebook dot co and please go to the website they see dot co if you'd like to sign up for the free weekly newsletter that they see books dot co stay healthy. Keep reading and right well.

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"Mr This nation is making progress toward mobilizing the moral forces of the world to oppose an enemy who has no idea of honor or truth in a plane reference to the leaders Russia and up communist China Tomb and said we are in controversy with the inheritors of the program of Genghis Khan and Tamburlaine. Who is the greatest murderers in the history of the world but he declared he has been tried to mobilize the moral and religious forces of the world to meet what he called an unprecedented crisis and he said we are making king some progress? That is the reason I was able to say last Friday night that this country is not confused and dangerous situation that a lot of people think it is the American people understand what we are doing. Cold Way from Canada bore down on Minnesota. North Dakota and Wisconsin last night a frigid Christmas in prospect for a wide stretch of the mid continent northwest winds up to fifty miles. An hour drove the cold air mass down from Canada heralding the end of a brief spell of mild mild weather in the area from Saint Paul Minnesota that the four year old John Wong a Chinese restaurant odor convicted of second degree murder yesterday and Saint Paul all in the fatal shooting of a bedroom. Connex agent the government agent. AM BANGS was shot to death two months ago during our narcotics raid on Wong's apartment from balanced and spawn. New York Sheriff's deputies took into custody for men whom villagers considered suspicious-looking before. Were released almost immediately. That was a week ago. Well Friday sure Frank. Hawthorne disclosed the four men were internal revenue agents looking being for a still from Chicago. scrummed woman smiled broader fifty bucks thirty two year old Mrs Number Nykhas Polish displaced placed person. Had just finished. Scrubbing fighter stares at the Board of Trade Building. When a man came down her work was ruined? Mrs Bernez Smile. Nevertheless US later the man came back and identified himself as a Garden City. Texas rancher. Steve Curry Curry gave Mrs for Nike. Uh of fifty dollar bill and said this is for smiling when most people would have scowled. Merry Christmas or Crawford's bill. Indiana mother has a real Christmas present. It seems team. Sixteen year old Ronald Runyon found a woman's bill containing one hundred and fifty dollars. He carried the bill full to the dress inside and the owner gave him a ten dollar reward. Ronald's mother was as happy as the owner in a letter to the Crawford Spill Journal and Review Mrs Rodney and said I feel. I got the best Christmas present that can ever be given any mother honesty in my son in those some of the day's news stories reported in the newspapers of Sunday December. Twenty four worth nine hundred fifty on your radio sixty nine years ago. Our Miss Brooks starring Eve Arden which continues now on Classic Radio Theater. You don't know what it meant to me to. I have your ear whenever I need it. It was nothing really. I have another one especially about girls cash. Remember how silly I used to act about. Add girls every time what I'm looked at me. I giggled like a kid and then overnight I matured. I met the one woman who mattered period. Conklin he certainly made something out of your Waldron. I don't know what but something you saw me through the difficult transition period comores well while Harriet and I were adjusting to one another. It was wonderful able to come to you for Advice Miss Brooks. It isn't every boy who has such an interest taken in him by some intelligent elderly person back my ear. I can't hear you the terrain shit or anything Josh. I've seen girls look as good as you do. You think I am outmanoeuvre. They got lots of mistletoe on the walls. Were expecting. Mr Wooten tonight. Yes Walter I was. We were going for a wheelchair wheelchair ride to get to visit his folks. Upstate his folks. They must be well along in years. It's father's over fifty any shoot him next spring or here you might as well pick up the little gift I got for you. Oh what you shouldn't have miss rush. That's where is it on your right. It isn't much just a remembrance. I almost forgot. I can't open it yet. Why why not? Oh you mean you want to put it onto your tree at home and open it with your family not exactly but we'll get it later. They're they are now. I'll answer it there who you are now folks all along when I got here. It's really surprising. We should have stayed home Christmas Eve. It's freezing out now osgood. Don't be so grouchy. Elvis Brooks Mary Christmas. Why it's Mr and Mrs Conklin then? Harriet how are you all on cold. Come here Minerva. Rub Up against Mr Cochran. What's that go away awake at just seems like you was good or or is she hungry Miss Brooks? He's not that hungry. I don't like liked cat. Why didn't you go chase a mouse or something? You forget Mr Conklin. This is Christmas Eve. There isn't one staring. Hey he s Walter. There's a lot of mistletoe around this room. I know it's real pretty Good note what is all the Mistletoe in this room. Oh that Greens makes me sneeze. Oh come on Osgood. Let's see if it does don't embarrass me doesn't make use knees. I'm willing to find out. Here's a nice sweep of it on this wall. Yeah Real your car here. We are her Scotland. It's all right with Harriet. It's all right with us. Come on. We're getting old Swede Harry. Isn't that huge dudas. Good Hung here about one for your face below wind. Well it is customary. I guess there I'm under the stuff. See I told you. Let's stop this romantic dribble act like adult human beings. This broke tied like to take advantage of this visit to inquire asked your plans for the coming years classwork. Do you have your schedule. All laid it out. Frankly Mr Congress. I haven't had much chance to work on that much of a chance. You been away from school all week. You'll vacation started last Monday. I know Mr Confident. And that's what I took the weekends. I mean vacation is something you go on when you get the opportunity to work on it or during it and less even though I didn't actually go anywhere and when my vacation came along I went on it or was online usually and you wanted to be the head of the English department. He's asked good. This is no time to talk of school affairs. We're here to spend part of our holiday witness book. It was very nice. If you think about me MRS conflict. It was nice of all of you. I want to wear a Waldron. Harriet then get my daughter away from that mistletoe. At once Mr Krankl unhurried has an allergic to mistletoe. Allergic to you resistible sometimes especially alongside of older older women like Mrs Conklin and Miss Brooks sounds like the bail. I'll get it why Mr Biden come in thanks Westbrook's thought you were going. Upstate see your phone. I was what they sent me a wire that they wanted to come here for about a week or so. They'll arrive in the morning so I thought I'd drop this little gift doc for you tonight. Oh but you shouldn't have. Where is it? Let's just put it under the tree in the living room. Look everybody well. It's Mr Boy. This is nine cold out and this is beginning to get more like Christmas Eve every millet. Sit Down Mr. I'm certainly glad you're folks decided to visit you instead of vice versa. There's a particularly good reason why I'm glad yes. Yes it gives me a chance to see how guinea pigs are affected by. This cold snap reacted at all. Do you expect them to do blow on their paws. The conclusion of our Miss Brooks starring Eve Arden from Christmas Eve. Nine thousand nine hundred fifty comes up in just three minutes that same. Why Have Cox thanks for joining us on this Christmas Eve edition of Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station friends and family? I've been telling you for two years. 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Eight hundred eight nine six eight to four to eight hundred eight nine six eight two four or two. That's eight hundred eight nine six eighty two forty two merry Christmas. And thanks for tuning into this Christmas Eve edition edition of Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station now. The conclusion of our Miss Brooks starring Eve Arden from sixty nine years ago. December twenty fourth nineteen fifty. Have you wipe out the mistletoe. Mr Boynton. Why don't you stop at nonsense Mahthir? It isn't nonsense. Mr Boynton look at the mistletoe. Hello mistletoe Oh yes very interesting. Example of the flora found in various areas throughout the glow green parasitic shrub. It is indigenous initiative regions where apple trees and oaks abound. Now that the lecture is over. May we ask questions. Jointly Miss Brooks on a standard. They stand on. Well you see because of certain characteristics in its makeup an allergy sometimes aggravated by its presence. I'll take a chance if you will come on Mr Boyne. Mr Blatant just bring him over to this wall here. Hello how kid head hundred of you like well. Don't just stand there. Can't you see miss brooks is cooking for me. I couldn't need thing l.. What standing under the Mistletoe signify I know what it signifies the most Bouba but to me? Palliative valid goes eighty five cents worth of mistletoe. Let's open up the presence right now. Glendon suggestion water. Shouldn't we wait until just before we leave. Might be less embarrassing that way. What opened them now? This one pretty crowded up with some of these packages under. There's little one over here. Lookout water you bumping into one of the branches wrong. I got the feeling when I touched that branch. What kind of a feeling Walter? Raleigh your hurry pack. When aren't you sure? Oren Harriet Konkan. What's the matter with you what thing nothing's the matter with me? It's just that I want to tell you something very you've got to change. You WanNa try to be more like Miss Brooks. What do you mean water if you want me to stay interested in Ya gotta be more alluring? You Glamorous Feminine in that Real Feline Groups away you've been drinking pine needles to look at that tweet. It seems to be growing. What do you mean glowing stuff reflection from the streetlight? Part is giving me the Mimi holidays. Indeed you're just moved to three work listening arrive here. We go. ooh I missed the concrete and it happy go lucky one loving gag a minute osgood. Sometimes I've wanted to. Is that really used standing. There I think is to Concord. Why do you ask because you suddenly look so different? So Intelligent Miss Brooks. I made up my mind. You are no head of the medicine. High English Department fun-loving. I'm going to put this one. Little Word belong right in the center of the room. Give me a hand Boyne yesterday. I just take the rugs. They come here. Baby Khimik come here baby and I'm here it's wonderful. What are you going to do is divine? Call me feel honey and this is what I'm GonNa do. They it does. Have we feel like I'm in a dream. Villa wonderful beautiful. Hello Mr Buying where I oh everybody go. Oh I must have been dreaming. That's real enough. I'll be right there. Oh Oh sorry. Minerva didn't mean to drop you. I'm cold in the conference in Waldron Mr Biden but you just I mean come in. We thought it would be nice if we spend Christmas Eve together. mrbrok gains. Thank you little gifts over four. I'll just put him under this tree here. I guess do that Waldo. Aren't you GONNA ask me why I didn't go up statements books I know why Mr Boynton your folks are coming down under-sea you how did you know that. Just got the telegram. Don't let's get too carried away with the holidays. We've got to prepare for heart. School Season Ahead Miss Brooks. Let's talk about school affairs now. Good Walter look the mistletoe. We'll look at it just a minute. Before there. We go through all that again. Would you please touch the tree. Mr Barton the one on the left with the way it's gone. There's only one three Brooks Hugh all right. All right I have read that part too Mr Boeing. Would you do me a favor please. Course Miss Brooks what is it would you touch. It's the Christmas tree lease important. All right there nothing happened. What did you expect what happen? It's a miracle. Excuse me I'll be right back lurch. I'm selling Magic Christmas tree but you just came by hi one lady. The only cost fifty cents apiece fifty cents. That's right here's two dollars. Give me four of them. I again here is eve are from the bottom of my heart to you in the audience you in every home on every road in every city and town in the busy places and then the lonely places Oh very merry Christmas to each of you with our sponsor the Colgate Palmolive Peet Company who make luster the cream shampoo and colgate dental cream. 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CEO Dennis Muilenburg the CNBC reporting. It replaced him with the company's chairman as nations. Biggest manufacturer exporter is. He's struggling to regain the trust of regulators customers and the public that the wake of two fatal crashes of his best laid plan the seven. Thirty seven Max. Boeing declined to comment on these severance package but a falling early this year showed that the former CEO could be eligible for about thirty nine million dollars. A class action lawsuit charging abuse and inadequate education at a juvenile facility in Delaware County will be allowed to proceed. Here's Andrew Sears. The ruling issued by a federal court on Friday means virtually all of the claims against the Glenn Middle School and State officials responsible for licensing and overseeing the school can't move forward to suit was filed on behalf of us who attended the school by the Education Law Center the Juvenile Law Center and deckert LLP according according to Mora mcinerney legal director at the Education Law Center youths detained it to privately run residential facility. Were subject to horrific abuse if case focuses on physical abuse emotional abuse lack of medical care lack of education as well as a culture of intimidation and violence against you. You know school. The court hasn't ruled on the substance of the suit but denied multiple motions to dismiss the case including failure to state a claim and claims by state officials Charles of immunity with the motion to dismiss denied. The Fed is now expected to file an answer to the claims in a lawsuit and the state of Minnesota now six months into to a new era of wage theft enforcement are Mike Moen reports state recently adopted a law that makes it a felony for employers who cheat workers out of pay. Minnesota's wage theft law coincides with similar action taken in Colorado and New Jersey Allen. Benson is a labor professor at the University of Minnesota. He says efforts to assist low wage workers are coming in a variety of ways. The taken in Tim themselves to either raise their own state. Minimum wages ages or to improve enforcement of the existing wage lies or to expand the scope of employees who are covered word by that law. Benson says a lot of what's driving action at the state level is the fact that the federal minimum wage has been flat for a decade. He says there's also been a lot of reported violations of overtime pay. Buddy says even with states taking action employees being aware such laws. It's still a challenge. which reduces is the impact of these laws in the state of Minnesota wage? Theft is now a phony. That's punishable by up to five years in prison as well as a ten thousand dollar fine. This is pianist that he one of the nation's largest corporations up Pani federal income taxes at least twenty eighteen. That was the first year. The trump administration's new tax law more from Diane Bernard the study by the institute on Taxation and economic policy says even though the corporate tax rate was lowered to twenty one percent. Legal loopholes allowed the corporation survey to pay on average a little over eleven percent in taxes. Report co-authors Matthew Gardner points out that. The corporate tax avoidance is perfectly legitimate. There is no implication that any of this is illegal by all accounts pounds. These companies are simply using the legal tax breaks that they lobbied Congress to give them the companies that pay zero taxes include Amazon. Net slicks and Dow Dupont of Midland Michigan. Detroit based General Motors also didn't contribute any taxes on profit of more than four billion dollars. Supporters Quarters of the new tax code argued that lowering corporate tax rates would lead to increase investment in higher wages Washington state. Attorney General Bob Ferguson. Suing the federal government over its policy of immigration arrest. You're the courthouse war from Merrick. Take it off he says. The policy violates states rights to operate their own justice system under the Tenth Amendment Amendment and impedes an individual's right to access the courts president of the Washington State Association for Justice John Allison Agrees saying courthouses are sanctuaries worries. For Justice. He says in certain circumstances witnesses may be afraid to come forward and offer testimony because of the threat of detainment we know there are examples of domestic mystic violence victims. Who are afraid to come forward because they might be now in one of these rates and because of that the criminal elements who caused the harm are continuing to go free? Federal officials say sanctuary policies. Like those in Washington state have made it harder to detain violent criminals which is why they have resorted to court house arrests tests and finally low arrest brow tele reports. Even though the crop for Christmas trees was good this year prices still went up in New England. States like New Hampshire and Vermont whether this year was better for Christmas tree harvesting than last year which helped farmers sell more trees to retailers. But according to Jim Hurst Executive Director of the New Hampshire and Vermont Christmas Trees Association. That isn't the full picture. Even though growing conditions may have been good this year and one sounds and the other sense. There weren't as many trees in the Brown to take advantage of that because they want to seven or eight years ago. I explains that Christmas tree farms planted trees after two thousand eight recession and says it takes about a decade gate for a treaty mature for sale. The slow down a decade ago is now catching up to the marketplace. If you're a procrastinator you may be able to find a tree for as little as fifty fifty dollars at the last minute. I'm Mike Clifford thanks for starting your day with public news service. We are member endlessly supported and we online at public do service DOT. Org It's happening wherever cupcakes are being frosted songs are being recorded and engines are being tuned. ADP is designing a better way to work with industry leading HR talent time benefits and payroll more companies rely on ADP than any other HR partner from small business business to global enterprise. See how ADP can help you and your people achieve what you're working for at designed at ADP DOT COM ADP always designing for people in the USA radio network presents. The greatest radio programs of all time talk. Benny Brown. Look I. I said your money or your life. I've thinking McGee and molly in that one of these days. This is plastic radio theater. The Great Gildersleeve Bob Hope show transcribed direct from Hollywood CA. From Hollywood George Burns the Gracie Allen show. Now here's your host. Why Cox an hour of comedy with an episode of the Jimmy Durante? Show this originally broadcast ask Christmas Eve. Nineteen forty seven. Good Health to all from rickshaw Rob Hollywood the Jimmy Durante. Show I think I think I didn't see any yes. Ten thousand rextall drugstores will carry the complete line of top-quality wreck saw drug products. Bring you the Jimmy Durante. Show Joel with Peggy Lee onto twitter. Candy Candido Roy. Barbie and his orchestra wreck salt sportscaster. Tommy Harmon Yours Truly Howard Petri and our special guest tonight. MGM's Great Little Title Star Margaret. O'Brien and here. He is ladies and gentlemen the one and only Jimmy Durante. Scott on they even when things go wrong feel even look at a come on Santa Claus. Please tell me what's in that bag lease on the day. This ain't no beg. It's my snot. Merry Merry Christmas. This Jimmy Merry Christmas to you too Mr Petri to naming Michael then I could wish you a merry Michael Miss Guys. Do you have your troubles at Christmas time. Don't you I'll bet with all your political connections. It was your top selecting Christmas gifts for them under contrary Howard yes and my toughest job was picking. That's what it says. I'm so smart. Machine and my toughest job was picking announced present for Henry Wallace. See Two years ago. I gave a big Christmas party for Henry and last year. I gave them a second party so this year. I'm going to give them a date with Jane Russell a date with Jane Russell. Isn't that a strange gift. Henry want us. Don't be silly. Can you think of a better played potty. Any of you were still pretty good. Make a good comedian. Jimmy Suppose Wallace does organize the third party. Does it affect you and your campaign for the vice presidency not gonna Slightest Howard Not Nestle. I'm a candidate. For the tickets that Democrats the Socialists. The Republicans Republicans and the Labor Party. Your candidate on four different tickets sightly. Why be safe? Yeah well listen. If you wanted your election you'll have to give the people a plan to help the food conservation program. I've been working on the food problem. How it and I WANNA report eighty two? I eighty four. How do you like data guy walked in with a buck? So we these two gray speculators start bidding for let's the conditions that prevail. But as I was saying I've been working on the food problem. How would last week? I dug a hole in the backyard. Auden planet some shrimp cocktail. That was left over for dinner then. I dug another hole and planted some leftover piece soup and then dug another hole in planet. Some leftover lamb chops. I I watered it faithfully every day and this one and you know what came up. What a gopher with a note that said what's the matter no out food? Production can only be increased. We improve on national irrigation system. Jimmy I'm glad you brought that up because there's a man here to see you from the United States Department of Rivers and waterways. Well what are we waiting for. Open Faucet let them in Jimmy Mr Ripple Commissioner of rivers and waterways. What how nice to meet you Mr Ripple glad you draped in now? Tell me what seems to be a problem. Well the United States needs more water. Well why don't Jamaica tour around the country giving off a fine spray. What I did make a tour? I started by diving in the mouth of the Colombia River assuming upstream to the head waters and what happened. Three seven proposed Samuel. Do Anything to get away from Del del Monte but never mind the salmon Mr Ripple when. You're underwater did you. Do you ever see any pretty Moore. Meat the confidentially. How do you like him? Well as a candidate for the vice presidency NECC- slam interested in proven the Columbia River. Tell me what can I do about what other women in the three years. I've only got one thing to report what I didn't. I'm glad he left. I was going down for the time. Just a minute here Jimmy. I just noticed. What's that string in tight around your finger? I'm glad you noticed. Howard that string means that somebody I forgot to get presents? Gosh Jimmy was at President Truman. New General Marshall No princess this is Elizabeth no long. It's Oh merry Christmas happy new year. The young goal. When I see a Christmas the I think of him he And at Christmas I know he'll be late but he won't stop by heck back. He'll never leave he leaked a twinkies neck. Don't stand near the missile or you'll be kissed by Mr Eddie. Let me hear it. Merry Christmas happy New Year Own. Alkyl how How I love you know last Christmas I I remember them? I sent them up to be with the latest invention on it. What did with this invention? If you're driving down the road and you see a lady driver coming towards you press a button. The car folds up and hides in the glove compartment. Don't stand a missile. Oh you'd be fine. Misspelled all the funds just getting started in a a Christmas Eve edition of the Jimmy Durante. Show from December twenty fourth nineteen forty seven. I'm Wyatt Cocks. This is classic Radio Theater on your favorite station. Now now you can fly anywhere in the world and paid discount prices on your airline tickets. We'll go flight today to London. Paris Madrid or anywhere else. You you WANNA go and pay a lot. 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How did you make this Christmas? Rogue even gave ties. Jason got handkerchiefs. But look I need your help Margaret. O'Brien will be here in a minute. Now how can I sing staying out of my trousers. All that's very simple to use. Is this injury board. Just keep reading the embry bolt over the state and when the process commenced forget light in Kara stopped rubbing. That's you uh when you were a baby did you ever dropped you on your head or we couldn't afford a nurse that my mother had to do it now about these trees so thirty you better trim it not after what happened last year. Let me tell you about it last Christmas full of the spirit of ill. I'm all set the trim the tree. Yes so so what the tinsel in my pocket the Perriman canes on my left pocket there silva builds in one hand. The bucks does that. I'm using for snow in the other and the popcorn ball dangling from my news news. I climbed up the ladder and set the trim that three when I hear a strange noise in the kitchen. Descendant from the ladder. I put down the the peppermint canes to Silva Belts the bucks does. I'm in using push. No end the popcorn ball dangling from my nose I investigate and what is it. My cat wants to get out on ready for Silent Knight and and she's ready for a fight in fussing so I opened the door and off she goes host Ken the big four meeting with the tinsel and my right Puckett peppermint canes on my left pocket at the Sylva belts in one hand. The box does use them for snowing together and the popcorn bowl dangling from my nose. I go up the ladder. I'm just about to take a snip in June which keeps my nose collapsed and at high altitude. What happened the telephone starring so takes a step towards the phone? I should've gone down off. The ladder removing a spring. Holly Hawk from Iraq picks up the phone. Voices had no guess who actually ripping the wires out of the wall. One small all right goes up the ladder with the tinsel the canes the Silva Bills The bucks does end the popcorn ball dangling from my nose and finally after three hours I got around my neck. Why is in my pocket and why is in my hair so I plugged into the wall? What happens the tree? Blew a fuse. Manos likes up pretty then the three the Chicago twenty four Milwaukee Fifty seven thirty six feature. What are you doing what? I didn't have any lines here so I thought I'd give it with a report. It took material. No power must be on his payroll. You go on with the tree. Treat your answer well. Merry Christmas Margaret Dingo Dingo Bells Jingle all the way what. What a voice which Margaritas this or Brian Trueman? Why it's Mago Brian the Merry Christmas? Everybody Jesus Spun Well Margaret. You really got the Christmas spirit having you. Oh it's been wonderful Jimmy. I've been out with a bunch of neighborhood. Kids singing Christmas Chris. We sang under Bob. Hope's window when he threw A. It's a quarter then. We sang under Red Skelton Window and he threw US equality in. All of his kids went over to Jack. Van East House. Shing Mitch. The Benny no split the money with him. He had a by union. Well come on. You're always welcome in my humble chapel. Thank thank you Jimmy. And here's the president I brought for you. Open it up Margaret. This was the fastest dating. I just what I wanted a mickey mouse beauty a kit. I wanted to give it to you Jimmy because I think camp beautiful would you say that again. I think you're beautiful. I gotta I have. This show transcribed the thing like pets should go on record. Merry Christmas everybody. Hello there Margaret. Hello Miss Lee. Jimmy achey standing under the MISTLETOE. I don't do turn out. The licensed dealer. Can't spank the Tech Bach when he goes to lights. PUCKER UP PEGGY wjr Swede hot. How do you feel getting a real already case Louis? Candy Candy though this switch very bright. He's lovely totally. He's engaged a uses chicken fat. I'm on any look my with foreign asleep under the Christmas tree. How do you like this? You tell is too much for little. Take a little snooze dreams Margaret all this ice and snow in Reindeer Santa Clauses home with the North Pole and very stance with his reindeer. Tammy are you really Santa Claus a it little girl. Oh say nick. How old are you anyway? Margaret Santa Claus horsewhips beginning in the world. I guess I'm over two thousand years old even older than Al Joe collected Santa Claus and seeing all Rayton dear no Margaret. I didn't always use reindeer push Christmas by the delivered message. I live the presence on horseback. Some of my hope was tried to teach me to write it. He said when the horse goes down you go up and when the horse goes up you down so I tried it. I got on the Horse when the horse went down I went up and when I came down the horse was calm. Was it that funny. No you're tickling. Now I'd go with you to deliver the presence short little girl. It just helped me get the harness over these reindeers haunts. We've got a hurry. Though these reindeer's Kanani wake eight hours a day organized. Now you're org that's right but trouble makes anything with Hong joined the Union. I've gotTA gotta get dressed from a trip to well Margaret out. It's up here at the North Pole. I am ready to start your own. Oh Saint Nick was much younger when I started a deadline. We all stand are all the presence packed on on your sleigh. Well let's see little girl. I'll check my list. I've taken care of Winston Churchill. Rachel Linus Bevan's President Truman. Wait a minute I forgot to get something from a Gandhi. Helped me out Margaret. What do you think I should give Mahatma? Gandhi and electric blanket though sheets get awfully cold in the winter anymore. I am the Deli Deli. Come on climb among the slain. We'll start out trip I'm done. I'm blitzen dancer is an hour and how it getting there. He wants to train train. Anybody running next year to make way for. Oh Saint Nick. Look down there Margaret or in Beverley hills right over betty gray ables house. Aren't you going down to feel betty grable stocking butter. She feels much better than I would. But hold Thais we'd hot going down and visit a little girl able lives in the House here. Let's go knock on the door. But why are you knocking on the door. I we stopped at Santa Claus came down the chimney to league disbanded. Can't make his beak like should I try it with my hello little girl. I'm old saint. Nick what's your name the mandate you Santa Claus Candy. Why are you mad at Santa Claus because I wanted to pony and he brought me baby brother? Blame everything on Old Satan Nick. I've got a lot of gives you a little candy but tell me one thing. How do you feel about spending Christmas and Sunny California? Well I can tell you about him a little poem Chris in California. 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Well I can tell you about the little poem in California yes right you know when I have a white Christmas villain I and my voice sounds sounds like tonsils with cotton a mixmaster Santa Claus. I wish you do me a big favor. My little boyfriend Stanley lives in that house right next door and he doesn't doesn't believe in Santa Claus. Would you come over with me and Poof twincities. Wrong doesn't believe there's a Santa Claus know these awful stubborn. I'll knock on the door. You're not getting the ant shop and a red Sue Stanley. You don't understand he's All Saint Nick. Everybody wants to get into the act. You Orr's joining hydrogen. Knows the bid wasn't built could hide this mark. You've made your choice we're through. I'm going on the backyard. Backyard meat words. John hear me. I'm GONNA eat worms kidding much about the price of Christmas Turkeys. You'll give me up for this. This quarry there is no Santa Claus Stanley. Don't you dare say that again. All of us boys and girls here in America must believe in Santa Claus. All of us have enough enough food. Tweet warm coast and many other things that children in other countries have got. When you live in America stemming just got to be? There's a Santa Claus. There is a Santa Claus. There is a Santa Claus near Santa Clara. Margaret wake up your dream. I'm in wake up. You're not Santa Claus. Your Jimmy Durante. That's right Margaret on not Santa. But I'm somebody very close. Do anyone was coast to him. Yes smog I and Jimmy. The ramp o'clock in his tie bag isn't on his back as he goes through. The snow's he's facing Jason Frontier hopes it on his own of Santa Claus tone. I seem familiar now. Think back through your brain there Kim. How unique leading reindeer partner How's the only way today? So I ride unopened sleigh Tonight is Christmasy we know so up down the hall steering and Foro. Santa comes to call Christmas ak embargo of icing racing. I believe the same Merry Christmas at least ten thousand times more merry Christmas but that's how many rextall drugs they're Jimmy. You know folks many of you have already already been wished to merry Christmas by a rextall druggist. We'd like to say it again. So on behalf of Brick Saul Douglas everywhere. Merry Christmas to all rextall professional Russia beat me and I'd like to add merry Christmas from your Rick. Salt store your solve store and ten thousand more old somebody. I'll go census greetings to from. I'm rick sorry that's all. How do you do when you when I know draft delirious? Note Mr Petri. Now excuse me for a minute. There are a lot of pretty girls around here and I'm going to go over there in that corner and stand over the missile lip. This'll lip Jimmy. You mean mistletoe. You kissed what you want out just what I want. But thank you Margaret. O'Brien for coming over the evening and don't forget the listen in next week when my old Pale Gary Moore will pay me. A New Year's Eve visit Merry Christmas. Everybody and Merry Christmas to you Mrs Calabash. Yeah now Tummy Hammond. What goes on with the grid land gossip this week? Well Jimmy. Our football time is is almost finished we have one or two big bowl games will into some of our xl sport fans however and we may as well dwell on one of them right now. Dallas Texas is the site of the Great Cotton Bowl battle between southern Methodist University and Penn.. State this game will be the twelfth of a great series and this year marks the first year that both of the teams playing into the game undefeated from rextall corner. The game lines up as a great defensive team against a great offensive team and state route is believed that they can win if they can score twice their defense. Is that good on the other hand. SMU's great team escort at least twice in nine out of ten games doak Walker. SMU's great triple threat. Back will carry the offensive weight against Penn State. It'll be interesting to see if Walker and company can break the Great Penn in state line with all American guard. Steve Sui our guest is that he can so we'll call. SMU To win after a terrific battle in the twelve th annual cotton bowl game at Dallas Texas. I wish we're we're going to be in Dallas on January first but my eyes and heart will be at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena from taking the author. Preacher Candy Candy Roy Bargainers Orchestra Yours. Truly how I'd be three and Jimmy Durante. WHO Says Merry Christmas everybody but night Mrs Calabash and Merry Christmas programs produced and directed by Phil Cohen? Margaret O'Brien piddly. Courtesy of Golden Mayor Producers Have Cast Timberlake starring spending basement monitor. Good health. Do all gone from Christmas Eve. December twenty four thousand nine hundred. Forty seven the Jimmy Durante. Show I'm Wyatt Cox and you're listening to Classic Radio Theatre coming up in three minutes. The conclusion of the cinnamon bear. 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Jimmy asked crazy quilt to hold the Silver Star while he climbed into the slate and when he turned around the dragon was gone. It's hard to believe the sprint would do that. But such is the case and right now. He's running as fast as his legs will carry him Crazy quilt dragon would show his true colors. Only there makes me want to cry. have to hurry if we WANNA catch him on going himmy. UNHOOK the painters. And the Sleigh we can go faster without them to you in a Jiffy Nikki and I thought crazy quilt reform. Once you villain I wishes villain. I don't understand way too. They are you coming boy. This is their take mine. Jimmy Nikki let's hurry more speed there laugh. Just wait till I get me pause on that. Double Cross and Dragon. I'm awfully disappointed. Appointed and crazy quilt me. Tell me about this accuser. Seem to be a good friend of yours and then turn right around and make off with a silver star. In fact he's the one who stole it in the first place out of big talking. Well that explains it becomes a great friend of yours. Well cinema bear helped him when he wouldn't give us a star real about a hundred times and then he jumped into the roof your ocean and lost it for. You could've seen him Santa Claus. He came we've been through the breakers vowing that he was a change dragon that he'd never do it again not much. He wasn't Oh oh you think he was just pretending to be a good opportunity to steal the star again. Don't know from the in caboose news and stood by us through all our troubles and they were just lots and lots of times when he could have gotten away with the star. Easy anything where it was probably probably just a case of too much them days of Santa Claus I am. We are at that Jimmy all these headings great for the North Pole faster faster Bridgen fast it it just as I thought there he is trying to climb up the North Pole. Come on everybody after him. YEA catch him before he gets the poll or we'll never get him a misty folk live up there. They them right in with them. And we'd never see crazy. Quilt goes all those interests are again done over the idea of stealing our star crazy. Quilts is by Jimmy Floyd meeting you. What's all this yelling about the stock you know what about the star? You've got it on. How come you must be? He mistakenly is is such a thing would never occur to crazy. Quilt you big storyteller. If you didn't see why did you run away like that way but oh I didn't run away. The mitigating a bit of exercise. Tie Up by new snowshoes. Oh great spall and I suppose you your snow no huge to claim the not for and if so where are they where all that Snow Hugh Hugh villainous. No but I I just off the ball to be half so. Don't pay any attention to him. Cuban who's got the style right. I can see it. It's sticking out of his pocket. I'm so ashamed of you crazy growth after we trek you and everything we will ever believe in you again. My friends my dear dear companions. Don't talk like that. You make me feel ooh look he slipped a bit he got holy Gamco then. They've you climb after him if he reaches the top. We're lost. I know how to bring him down. Remember member Jimmy Brew at him. No no come on everybody now. One two three Joining you got you're crazy. And I'm feeling extra specially zero M Jimmy take away. I do think I'll be you ring ship for them. All Ono the Grad listen along. I've got the silver star or you're crazy quilt dragon. Thought you get away with it her teach you try for cinnamon bash him up children. Take him up Her children what Dick Lamm Jimmy Different. I'm good I saw judy. Got The silver star than what in the world you off the floor here all tangled up in that old crazy quilt. Did you fall asleep. Oh dear I hope you didn't catch cool crawled. He doesn't Choas mother not like it is in the snug country. Sure his colder at the north awful. I valley are you ill. Have you got a fever. Feed your hands talking so strange. We're all right mother. We we had the most elegant time we sure did. The superstar was gone because the crazy quilt dragon store but Santa Claus help us catch him and get it back. Don't seem to have any fevers now. Both of you. That is if you bring the Christmas tree. Yes dear and he wants you to come down and help him decorated fine goodness honest. I wouldn't electrical defy you go to see. Let's go to sleep mother. We went to maybe land. Jimmy look at four patio cinnamon on the floor and he's only about four inches high any more. Can we take the Cinema Mbare Jazz. Smother the hawks. What the cinnamon bear you know? Patio cinnamon we've found him in the truck and he's the one who took us through maybe land and we have lots and lots of swallow ventures to. Oh I see may we take him downstairs. Of course you can now hurry beginning to get dark Generally all decorated isn't it simply beautiful and there's all star right on top where it belongs and Cinnamon. Visiting ran a branch right near. Remember the big Christmas Peter Santa Claus Hat and his pals. Yeah remember how we watched a wonderful wonderful Christmas cheaper rate with all the toys and dolls and we wrote on Santa Clauses Miniature Train and I got driving live with everything. You know what Judy. I wonder if we're really did fall asleep. The mother said I don't know Jimmy throw sort of mixed up like it. Sure is just trump. She how we could dream all of it. Well I mean look a patio cinnamon. They didn't dream him. Of course we didn't do little cinnamon there. I bet he's about the best friend we've got and what about the crazy quilt. Brad and Judy. Well done forget that we found our silver star the crazy quilt up in the sure but it was a drag. When we're up at the North Pole you know? Maybe all cheese around like that because mother came up to look for us. USC run-up folks don't believe in magic very much I guess. Naw I just see her sick or or you've been asleep or something. I wonder if we stayed awake tonight. You suppose we'd see Santa Claus. We could ask him about it and thank him for helping us. Cash crazy clear. I don't think we'd better do that. Schutte why not Jimmy. Who just got to to find out third weight? Well it group be nice alright for Bo. Forget what senatorial. Those children can't see them if they stay away. That's right he did. I guess yes we just better keep it a secret. Judy you mean about looking for the Silver Star yes. There's nobody would believe us any. How are we the neighbors? Don't Jimmy I suppose so. Two will occurs. Wish mother had them said that about going to sleep. It makes me kind of wonder well. Anyway we've got our Silver Star and and best of all we've got patio cinemas. You know what Judy. Let's put him up on the tree every Christmas. Yes I think we should after all. That's where he belongs right near the Silver Star where you can God and see that nobody ever ever steals it. Again Jimmy I'm soon has very little song. Tony four inches high. Listen to Jimmy. The cinnamon bear maybe greening afterall ruling and how much obliged and so end the story of the cinnamon bear whether Judy and Jimmy Green these adventures this or whether they really happen doesn't matter they were truly wonderful and certainly most magical now that the silver star is shining brightly on the very tip. Top of Judy and Jimmy Tree weakens smile off biggest holiday smile and say Merry Christmas to you all. We hope you'll always remember a little little patio cinnamon the sentiment there. That's the one thing that will make him very happy. And I can tell you on his behalf. You'll be much obliged to you The final episode of the cinnamon bear as it was originally early broadcast Christmas Eve. Nineteen thirty nine here on Classic Radio Theater on many of these stations classic Christmas Radio Theatre Theater Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and I certainly hope you be tuned in. I'm Wyatt Cocks. Remember to visit our web pages. 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Supporters of the new tax code argued that lowering corporate tax rates would lead to increase investment in higher wages Washington Russian state attorney. General Bob Ferguson. Sowing the federal government over its policy of immigration to rescue the courthouse war America. Take it off he says. The policy violates states rights to operate their own justice system under the tenth amendment and impedes individuals right to access the courts president of the Washington State Association for Justice. John Allison Jason Agrees Saying courthouses are sanctuaries. For Justice. He says in certain circumstances witnesses may be afraid to come forward and offer testimony because of the threat of detainment we know there are examples of domestic violence victims who are afraid to come forward because they might be now one of these rates and because of that the criminal elements elements who caused the harm are continuing to go free. Federal officials say sanctuary policies. 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Well let's go back to ten o'clock doc. This morning Margaret was wrapping packages on the dining room table. And Jim was helping her like this. How would you think on this really dear There we are not should hold. Don't you think you planning to send me along with a package. But what's matter. You tied my in their lives. Sorry I wonder if there's anyone I've forgotten. Oh from the number of packages scattered around here. You couldn't have forgotten anyone not in springfield anyway so many. They're just looks like a lot. I can't figure it out We don't know that many people are now. Look this one goes to the. Kirby's remember last year they gave us that lovely salad bowl and we the only sent them a card. This one is for the Morris's I feel. We certainly owe them again. But honey now h you asked a question. I'm answering you. The package goes to the Rodney. I didn't send him a thing last year. And the year before that they gave us that huge box of pairs but the big boxes for the carters. And then there's the blake's and the Rogers and the mill banks send the Duke planes and the Newman's Ann Lewis. They all gave something last Christmas is he. I keep a record of these things career. I have it all written down. That's fine I'm not objecting to the idea of remembering our friends at Christmas well wondered why all the packages well it just seems seems. Suddenly Christmas has lost something. It used to be so much simpler. The spirit of Christmas had a different meaning. I know dear but when people have given into at honey it's become a matter of bookkeeping. Christmas used to be a quiet and beautifully religious holiday time for the children time food. uh-huh bringing happiness to others. What does it become a mad scramble by a lot of things? You can't afford to give the people who don't need them now dear. I can't we have Christmas the way it used to be quiet and simple with the real Christmas spirit when you gathered your family and friends around the fire and the children hung up their their stockings and the church bells on Christmas Eve and the carolers singing. That's the way Christmas should be. I know dear but I'm in the dining room daddy daddy. I'm going to wash right here now. Jamie calls will you take the message. What message well? It's very important. He see Jamie knows simply dozens of girls who work at Burton's Department Hartman Store and they're going to call her. The second wrath comes in the store and then Jamie's going to call me Brennan says if you'll forgive my unseemly curiosity. What is the purpose of this? This elaborate spy system to find out what rouse going to give me for Christmas naturally naturally but during Christmas present as opposed to the surprise of course mother but how can I be surprised if I don't know what kind of go lock at the tar shape with my initials into by. Hi Me wait a minute. How was that again? I'll be upstairs better if Jamie College you. I need to the phone unless the lock is a wristwatch with that doesn't now now let it upset you. She's just a normal teenage. The girl honey the whole idea of Christmas to learn the dining room bud. Hey expertise can you believe it Christmasy and and you'd better go down in the basement and bring up the decorations for the tree. We haven't got a tree yet besides i. I haven't got time right now. Joan I gotta get some stuff together. We're going out with Christmas carols Christmas carols. You don't question Margaret Thank Heaven. This one person is family. Who has the true Christmas spirit allow? Tell me to congratulate you sign. You have the right idea. There's nothing finer on Christmas Eve and to go around singing carols. Oh we're not going to say that. What are you GonNa do with them? We gotTA deal with gusts down at the used car. Lot He has a soundtrack e you know with the bighorns on top and a record player inside. Oh no this is a cool idea gusts that sound talk all over town this afternoon and Joe and I we're GONNA be inside side playing the Christmas Carol records but well. I'm not really gonNA play the wreckage. Joe Is going to do that. And I'm going to read the commercials commercials. Sure Gus McCarthy's used car lot. Joe Plays a Carol and then I read a commercial. Oh I got some cool ideas. How do you like this one? It starts out easily gentlemen in a nineteen thirty six two door sedan. Maybe you'd better our old what fun it is to ride in a nineteen forty club coupe with overdrive. A new seat covers. Yeah I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus in a nineteen forty eight convertible radio. How do you like those good dad? Pretty good but if you lost your mind this is Christmas in thought is right by. That's carrying it entirely too far but if I don't work on the chuck this afternoon I won't get to ride on it in the parade tonight parade on Christmas Eve. Steve sure the big Santa Claus parade floats and bands and cowboys all kinds of stuff. What no skyrockets? Well now. I've heard everything everything. Peace on earth goodwill toward men introduced with brass Bam. What is it kidding? Where do we get our tree? Oh you better go down and get one deer. They'll be all gone. I could have gotten one. Wholesale from gusts US Carla? Christmas crease. Drew Henry he ever purple tree this year Daddy Purple. They're seldom on the vacant lot next to the pool hall. Red Yellow Pink Orange Purple. You can get any color you want except green talking about the tree. Go for a pink one. What's wrong with green? Not some accept. It just looks like a tree wants. It's a tree supposed to look like. Can we get one of those neon lights. Oh for Pete's sake neon lights purple Christmas trees these brass bands. What has happened to you? Kids have you forgotten the meaning of Christmas. Have you forgotten everything you've learned in Sunday school. No father other things are different now than when you were a boy. This is nineteen fifty three different. Nothing you can change everything else but not Christmas am I right. Margaret Margaret Dare. Trouble is that Christmas has been turned into another super colossal color production. Well well it's all wrong and as far as family is concerned. We're putting a stop to it this year. We're going to celebrate Christmas as it should be celebrated simply and naturally without all the hoop do fall. They're all this is going to be a real Christmas. Don't understand what you mean. Father well to begin with. We're not going to by one of those painted trees. We're going to get in the car and drive up to Pine Mountain and cut our own tree. Oh you don't really mean Certainly I do you kids. Gather up some warm clothes but get the saw out of the garage. It's at least fifty miles up there you can buy Naitri for a couple of Bucks Tad now. That's what I'm talking about. All you can think of is by by by this is a part of Christmas. You've never even experienced just going out into the woods and cutting your own. Christmas tree and weather forecasts had snow today. We'll be up there and back in three or four hours not going to snow that much judge. Besides I have chains. Now get your coats mine. I ready Oh this sounds like a real peachy Christmas it it will be princess. You see I have all those packages to deliver to the rodgers. A new car honey will deliver them on our way back here. Sure this this is a good idea. Am I sure Margaret believe me. This is going to be Christmas. None of us will ever forget. They were in their daddy all another mile or two maybe other. It's starting to snow again. Oh that snow coming down. It isn't in conflict flurry. Nothing to worry about. Come come on cheer up everybody almost Christmas Eve. What is there to cheer up about? Joe's probably out on the soundtrack playing Dick elect the holes with boughs of holly and selling cars like crazy. We're not talking about that remember. Okay now kids thank you have a hard life. Look at that little grocery store back off the road there miles from everything I would you like to live there. That's all I just wouldn't what if you had to. Well I D- what if you had to. I said I wouldn't. Yeah but what if you had to stop it stop it it. Almost their daddy won't be long kitten. Look at that snow drifting down. Isn't that beautiful. We're we're going to have a white Christmas loudly dear but do you think we should try to go any further just around the next ban why we had to dry clear up here into the Wilderness wilderness to get a Christmas tree. You'll understand princess when we're back home this evening when the fragrance of the tree fills the whole house. Nothing snow's a little deeper deeper here. We're not no we're not stuck. Could we moving there. We can't can't go any further. It's snowing so hard now you can't see ahead. Can you turn around. I won't try to turn around the only thing we can go back up. uh-huh afraid we're stuck. Oh no JEN. We can't be nothing to get excited about. We'll get out of here somehow. Take the wheel. Margaret push come on but I can't even see. What do you want me to do the reverse? I can't hear. Are you getting deep. Shot the border Margaret. You have to leave the car and walked back. They come on everybody. I'll take accused Margaret. Not your coat Kathy that he bring those two blankets. Can't walk all the way back in this snow. I know that we're going back to the grocery store. We passed so what about a quarter of a mile a close the car doors. Okay Kathy now all say together we better hurry. It's getting it's almost Christmas. See Almost got snow in my I shoot down. My name is where you're going Jim. Yeah I can see the room top of mountain in a blizzard. Stop Stop Complaining. It could be worse. Yeah we could have come up here at our painting soon quality. I don't know why we had to come Here yeah what was the idea. I'll tell you my freezing friends. This is that warm and beautifully band. No there's a simple old-fashioned Christmas in nineteen fifty. Three father knows best on Classic Radio Theatre Balance of nature. Turn changing the world. One Life. 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Pretty for Christmas Eve doesn't it holly reason the window. I'm all I'm interested in right now is getting back to Springfield. I'm supposed to be at least three parties tonight. If we get back in time I can still ride in the parade with Joe on the soundtrack. All those gifts are still in the car. Jim We'll have to get them out somehow delivered tonight all right one thing at a time. Let's let's get in here. Thought I walk there. That's not a barrel isn't that's an old fashioned pot-bellied still oh. This looks like the kind of store my father used to talk about. Look at the stuff hanging from the ceiling landings and snow shoes all kinds of Joan. Golly it smells just like the old general store back in my hometown. Who runs the place? I wouldn't be surprised if it's lum and abner and anybody here he where's the telephone off here someplace. You children better take your coats off now. Do you weren't expecting anyone in tonight. How did you hear our car stalled up the road? I wonder if we could use your telephone. You'd be most welcome to use it if we had one no talent your car. It's not enough up the road and gas that's ours. We must have passed on the road without seeing each other. I just walked up there to see if you need well. That was very thoughtful of you. We were looking for telephone. The nearest phone is down at the hardest place. Isn't it time and you'd never make it down there tonight. Not GonNa snow coming down like it is are. Are we going to get back to Springfield. I'm afraid you're not gonNA get back tonight. Miss Probably not tomorrow. Oh girl goes was Christmas at all our plans. I wouldn't feel too bad about it. News it may not be noticeable. But it's Christmas here too you know. Oh and since Meghan me marooned up here in a manner of speaking and since you folks suspended to why don't we just saver all stranded together snowbound were. That's very nice of you can't just move in on you. Why not? You look like like Nice folks. 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On Christmas we gave them the run of the store for help. You say Oh candy cookies anything you want junior home home studying. I don't get carried away. Look at these adorable fashioned teacup in a minute dear. They look at listen to my golly. It's good to hear youngsters around the place again. How many children do that? You have to a boy and a girl but they're both grown up now. Gone Way. Seems like such a short time we had the witness. Well would you like to come out in the kitchen with me Margaret yes. I'll help you put things on Jim. If you WANNA hang up things. The bedrooms rooms are right up the stairway they're good. I'll take these blankets kotze where kids finding anything back there. The fact they're vegetarian. It's the same one I use the ones my daughter. She ripped a lot like you when when she was already. Did you have some kids. Mr Terrill is we have to be Mr Carol. Well they've grown up in Bonn Kathy. Pretty Lonesome without your children. Yes our we we all have. Sometimes I think we miss the most most at Christmas time. You don't know how much you mean to your folks at Christmas. We we never never thought about it. I guess we always just brought how much Christmas meant to us. We used to have tree. He by stole and Judy and bill would indica rate it and put the campus that changed the stars and the little glass bells that they're all in the box back in the corner where the kids packed them away. Don't you you have any Christner's no caffeine. More than just doesn't know what to decorate the tree. I need some one for the still. I'd all right I'll get it. What are you kinda about him? I just feel sad side. Are You thinking what I'm thinking. Maybe we'll climb up on a box and get down those snowshoes. You're going back to the car. What's wrong the Children Margaret? But they didn't eat. I don't know they're applying something store for me to stay back here and lock the door. Maybe you go out and see what they're doing. Jim Malone whatever they're doing they've been at it for over an hour everybody come in now off all the lamps. Let's go in. What in the world? Where will you look at? It's Christmas Eve remember. Oh a tree decorated and with candles from the andersons very Christmas to Mr Business. Terrel don't beat all it's beautiful kids. How did you do it well? Mr Terrel said they had the decorations so God went up to the car and got the saw in some things heading went out and cut the tree. I helped put on the decorations liquids under under the tree. We're those packages come from Santa Claus. You can't open them till Christmas morning. Aren't those packages from the car. I told them they could do it. Dear they changed the tags. I guess this is a miracle mother. We have a family care gathered around the Christmas tree just the way it used to be snow coming down outside candles on the tree. You warm fire in the stove. Lovely so lovely. The only thing that's missing is the Christmas cow. Judy which he was a little girl would stand up at the top of the stairs and in the way she sang reminded you of the angels who sang the shepherds on that wondrous night. Kathy where is Kathy. Oh how steal we see our Lee Stones go a dark streak. I in writing. ooh He probably thank you for our first real Christmas. This is Robert Young from all of us in the Handerson family to all of you a most sincere with the Christmas spirit in its fullest. The yours for now and always you know. There's no other evening and all the year like this night before Christmas now after weeks weeks of busy shopping folks are warmly settled and comfortable living rooms looking forward to the excitement of tomorrow morning. Well we hope you find just what you wanted under that tree and at this time. May We the Post Cereals Company. Take the opportunity of thanking all of you for making our products such favorites. It's all over the country. 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Golly I certainly believe in Santa Claus Mommy I should say I do I do too. I didn't believe in maybe leaving any presence all by presidency each other. That's what Christmas is giving my goodness. Santa Claus certainly has presents for us. Jimmy you can do isn't any Santa Claus and he knows there is an all he does he will. Jimmy Elwyn knows more than your father. I don't know but he knows it isn't any sand well. Well I happen to know that he'll be stopping by here tonight Daddy Santa Claus encountering okay. Okay if you don't WanNa see him. You've always missed him. The other is because you didn't wake wake up but I thought I'd stay awake tonight and wake you up myself when I heard him but if you don't want to see him okay dear I I really think Santa Claus Jimmy and said Lucia believe everything Jimmy says. Why don't you see for yourself? I Seen Santa Claus downtown when Bell and they just people just don't just pretending now you're not really a witch when you up on Halloween while the real Santa Claus doesn't show up until Christmas Eve but if you don't WanNa see him Honesty him of course you do come on Darling and fuel help you get some cookies on a plate and a glass of milk. ille- percent gets in here. It is our biggest sauce or not. That's what are you up to now. I'm trying to hook up these tree-lighting you here when you were little. Didn't anybody ever wake you. You ever bring you downstairs to see Santa Claus. Yes twice the second time. I recognized him an APP that I guess I was too old. The first time I was so thrilled Definitely Pretty Nice thing to remember right. Now let's get the tree decorated and all Latin. Let's get to bed ourselves because it's Christmas Eve and Santa Claus will be waking us up. That's honey wake up. Jerry is the honey honey. Honey you hear that. He the reindeer on the roof and the sleigh bells really Santa Claus is darling. Yes all you get downstairs and beat. That agreed him. Maybe he's already down everybody eh presence around the Tree Mommy. Mommy hurt him too. She's putting her bathrobe and slippers. I think I heard Santa Claus slippers on. And that's the girl. Hurry up Santa's got lots of stops to make can't stay too long. I'm coming down coming down right behind. I just WanNa hear who is it who is l.. You're going to say. Merry Christmas Christmas Smash Antica Very Very Christmas. You have you been a good girl as that and aw veges by. Because I've already present on the three boys and I wouldn't want to take it back some cookies a nurse Liam thank. You can pretty hungry riding around over the roof thousand. He had this little back Nicasio test to leaving for why is she has a sledge. Got One left Christmas. She wanted a magic painting. Thank set. I'll say that's right. Well Santa Claus has lots of children. You can't always remember exactly Kenya's they don't you think I'm real ability service in North Carolina ice and snow on this indeed where my workshop is all by Elber All Year Long Business Laws and making going. How do you get do they drop it to you by airplane? How did you get food before? They invented pike. That's that's what Jimmy Owens over headache law and now I've got his eighty Merry Christmas all the kid. He threw all Andrew all good All night all right now. I finally finally got Betsy to stop chuckling over how clever you weren't tell me how okay. Okay well I never saw this guy that played Santa Claus never saw him before I talked to his partner. You See. I'd heard about the chimney. Sweeps they do this. Every Christmas supplement their income. You can only do it with chimneys are big enough. How did they tell you when he stepped back and crawl into the fireplace and stood up and Jeff whisked up? The you know I tell you I just got this funny. The rain also real quick break carding that they put on over loudspeaker outside and they're small truck pretty pretty effective I should say what the real thing I must say. Well Betsy Betsy has just had the thrill of her life. Yeah she's got another year. Childhood may grow up fast enough to get old. Yes I guess so. Oh ooh please well. You've got me in such a dither over. Like I don't think I'm going to sleep either. I guess we better have betsy. We'll have us up early on thirty. Who could that be up again? Just go got it all. Yes yes just telling my wife about Hugh Fellas tell good. What did you say? Well wait a minute. What do you mean? You won't be able to get here yet. I heard you hello. Hello Hello Ooh what's the matter. What is it there I mean do they? I mean they were here but what does he mean I yeah. I don't know what you're saying at all. who wasn't it said? It rose wasn't Santa Claus. I mean it was the guy I arranged it with the said having trouble with the equipment dependent couldn't get here couldn't get this. I tried to tell him that. He said they're working on the loudspeaker and if they could get it fixed the they'd be here if they weren't here already You might as well hang up. There's no sense trying to call their chimney cleaning company. Obviously it's not there now. Yeah all right. I just don't understand it when he honed. Exactly what did he say again. He said Mr Piper this is Randall. Sorry we haven't gotten it yet but a loudspeaker system broke down so we're way behind schedule but we'll get there if we can down to this. Oh he was was an frantic hurry and he said terribly sorry and he hung up. The joke may be fooling to be a joke. I paid them to do job. This you guys have been doing this for the last ten years. It's business to them. I said they who was here. He's suppose it was Santa Claus. Don't don't Santa Claus I mean I did get a funny feeling. Blew up the chimney and I sort of mystical quality about the get colder yourself with. You may look at you pacing the floor and smoking one cigarette after another honey admitted. You've got a strange feeling to their something here you know. They just can't be explained. Hell admit I'd be like getting the ladder out and going on the roof to see if there are any reindeer tracked. Would I think if I found Tom Wakes hello. Yes yes it is. You're done right. I'm the one you just called what's going on with. Oh Yes yes I see. What did he say? Why did he say that they call by mistake? They realized they'd been here. Hello no no no no. That's okay iheart on all my wife and I weren't upset we just kind of wondered you know all yes Asia you adjust grade just almost too good. Yeah well all gave Merry Christmas to you. Is I said there was certainly some logical explanation. 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I mean the Republican Christian Class diverges from the actual teachings of Christ in more ways than one so picking on socialism for that instead of you know the whole love thy neighbor thing seems kind of arbitrary but socialism wasn't even a thing around fifty. Cat or whatever whatever time the was the tyrant to was the boot every every government was the boot on your throat too. There was none of this kind of inbetween. Queen type of government like what the Democratic Socialists. Want these days So it was. It was more black and white for sure. Oh certainly Do you happen happen to have this pulled up in front of you. I do hold on me The stupid can laptop mine is getting slower and slower these days but this is coming from the Washington examiner. I think I think it came out. came out today. How do you like that? No Jesus was not a socialist. The claim Jesus was associates has become a popular refrain among liberals even from some who's Christianity is lukewarm at best but is there any truth in it. The question cannot be answered without a reliable definition of socialism a century ago it was widely regarded as a government ownership of the means of production. And I thought that it still was but it has started to the it is has started Taylor Jesus never once even hinted at that concept let alone endorsed it yet. The definition has changed over time. When the when critiques not of economic such as Lou would Ludvik von visas f a Hayek and Milton Friedman demolished any intellectual? 'cause our case for the original form Forma Socialism and reality prove them to be devastatingly right. Socialism shifted to other versions central planning of the economy. Now I'm familiar with Christians who argued that Jesus was anti-capitalist because of the same from the Bible where he stormed into the temple and throughout the money lenders and the merchants they seem to gloss also the and I've talked with Christians extensively who come from the socialist aspect of this I know Jesus clearly hit a capitalist hops. That wasn't the point at the point at all. That was a bunch of of Merchants in the Temple of God and he didn't approve. Yeah because I mean he wasn't going around you don't hear any stories of him walking through the streets and flipping lipin over. You know regular merchants. No this was. This was a very particular case. And so that doesn't that doesn't fly by the way that that example is in this article but yet that does it doesn't work and the other one of course is the Render unto Caesar which has always been a big one that he knew because he was a tax evader. And that's kind of why they got him in the end. And he was a rabble rouser tax evader and he was questioning all throughout his teachings. He was questioning authority and the the old school Guards didn't like that at all and so he ended up. Of course we all know what happened to him. But I've heard the give unto Caesar's what is Caesar's thing Be Mis attributed or misinterpreted misinterpreted. At least I think so. They're putting a lot of spin on a to arrive at some of these interpretations like I've heard the argument that when Jesus was making that claim you know when somebody asked him about paying taxes right he looked at the Qantas. Whose head is that? And they said it. Caesar's he said given what is Caesar's correct. It was a trick question and it was a trick answer he got out of it by by simply answering the way I look at it. He was advocating bitcoin. He's like don't use this money. You know I would agree. I've I heard The interpretation that his whole the whole idea behind his answer was that everything truly belonged to God and none of it belonged to Caesar Right. I I first the first. That's the first part and after a lot of spindle arrive at that interpretation. Though was that that he was advocating not paying taxes. Because it doesn't actually they belong to Caesar. We'll actually it did. It's it's man. It's material manmade wealth with a with a human being's head on it And this is is your government. And I'm not a part of any of this I say hey if you WANNA deal With Caesar and his government and his guards and his people and his laws and his taxes axes you go over there and deal with. I'm going to be over here. Not even using his money. I see that example. This also in here correct. So let's let's go with the article. One can scour our the New Testament in find nary a word from Jesus that calls for empowering politicians or bureaucrats to allocate resources pick winners and losers tell entrepreneurs how to run their businesses impose minimum wages or maximum prices compel workers to join unions or even to raise taxes. When the the Pharisees attempted to trick Jesus of Nazareth into endorsing tax evasion? He clearly allowed others to decide what properly belongs to the state by responding render unto procedure. That which is Caesar's and to God that would that which is God's nonetheless one of these charges that led to Jesus crucifixion was indeed tax tax evasion with the reputation of central planners in the dumpster worldwide Socialists have largely moved onto a different emphasis the welfare state the socialism's socialism's of Bernie Sanders and his young ally Alexandria. 'cause you're Cortez is that of the Benevolent Eagle Egal- Egalitarian Nanny state. Where rich rich? Peter is rob to pay poor Paul. It's characterized by lots of free stuff from the government. Which of course isn't free at all? It's quite expensive. Both in terms terms of the bureaucratic brokerage fees and the demoralizing dependency the produces among its beneficiaries. Is this what Jesus had in mind. And I'm going to say a not well certainly not Jesus was all about like private charity and things like that was he not. I don't remember him ever saying you know lets Caesar tax you and use that that money to feed the poor. I recall him saying feed the poor. It's all about individual charity. You can't it has to come from from you. Come from the Self Alfie. Can't you can't allocate someone else to pitch and if they don't feel it in their heart that it's you know that they won't have anything going to do with it. Yeah because giving to charity may or may not be moral It would be up to the individual to make that assessment but it certainly never moral to put a gun to someone's head and make them give to a charity that you believe as more and it's an and as soon as you do that is as soon as you take that step to force someone to pitch in. It's no longer charity. It's just like that's that's not the definition a charity. I mean it might be a good idea but as soon it is soon as you force someone into that it it loses all its all its power and the and the and as far as the type of charity is when in both the giver and the recipient are in the same room seen each other either. And then it becomes powerful. When you're going to the desk to the clerk to the bureaucrat? Which your hand out? And you're getting that food stamp or you're getting that a government subsidy because this is because I'm talking on welfare at every single level not just food stamps but when you when you remove the giver from the equation and it loses all its power power all its strength at no longer. It's no longer charity. You no longer have that connection with the giver and it's it's and that's is not the point and on top of that the recipient begins to rely on the the recipient no longer sees it as charity here it any longer and they start to see it as an entitlement. No I'm a part of this country. I'm a part of this community and I've fallen on hard times. Or maybe I haven't I just figured out how to rig the system and and if I can figure out if I could figure out those steps at how to make more money through these government welfare programs then more power to me that's my entitlement and that's bunch bull. Well that's and that's where we're at by the way in the system where it's you know it's on its way down. It's it's it's it's you know it's time for some some changes and they're going to happen because too many people have figured out a rig. The system is certainly true that human beings considered stealing from the government to be a significantly lesser crime. Instilling from one another exactly which is interesting because the government is a game view. Stealing from the government is way worse to the government. Instilling farm. Your fellow man. They're far more likely to investigate you and prosecute you for tax fraud or tax evasion right if they can find you and they of of course they have to make an example. I can't let the rabble-rousers go out there and start playing the game making them look stupid taking their money which it's not their money and making them look dumb it would be awesome. I think for the IRS. 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You mentioned that Jesus used edge wallet. Okay yeah but that's what I that's what I get from the render unto. Caesar he's like don't play around with this phony Baloney money that they can only hype up and in control at least then it was a gold coin is until they started until they started skimming off. I mean that's as all currencies throughout his have have have Have the process. They've gone through they've started. They started gold while they have to pay for their wars somehow there. That's that's the ticket they gotta they gotta pay for all that central planning planning but yeah it but that is the question was was Jesus in favor. Jesus and and you know this is if this is this is regardless of whether he was even real the idea was the idea of Jesus would he have gone the route of socialism. Would he have a Partnered up with the the the idea of central planning and and no certainly not and I'm no expert on the exact teaching Muslim but I hosted a show what they Muslim for a very long time to two maybe three years and he always argued that Mohammed was a merchant right and that the reason that God picked a merchant arch it to be his prophet was because free commerce free trade. It's what actually improves. The world agree. So Jesus ideally but also have been a merchant is that he was a carpenter their trade. He was a builder. And I think I think that has been debated whether he actually built with wood or whether he was a stone. Builder Builder stonemason interesting. I wasn't aware he ever actually liked built. Anything he was just he was was a was homebuilder. Okay so it's it's it's probably probably Likely that he he you know. That's typically how the Sun Father Teamwork you sir. You don't go off and work for some other family. Work with cheers okay. But so but and the question is. How long did he even do that? Or was he just a rabble rouser from the day one. He's you know starting from a rebellious teenager. And then he's off their you know throw and and you know throw in March out of merchants at a church is exactly and quaint. Prostitute questioning or state. That was the big one. Of course. Yeah so was he a socialist. Hardly yes with Christ Miss Right around the corner. It's especially timely to think about helping the poor. He was after all a very very important part of Jesus's message. How helping the poor is to be done however is mighty important because he he? I don't think he really gave any specific instructions on how to help the poor but it was kind of assumed you help the poor by giving them money and things like that of of your own money not so not someone else's money we'll see I don't think he felt. That was a necessary qualification because the idea of stealing from people and I understand the whole robinhood aspect act of it. But what people don't understand about the Robin Hood story was that they weren't stealing from the rich to give to the poor. They were stealing from the state to give to the pizza. Give back money honey. That was taken from the people back to the people. Yeah it was never about stealing from the people to give to the other. People are stealing from rich rich people. It wasn't about stealing from the rich about stealing from the state. Yes and a lot of people. Don't get that movies stories. Nothing I guess. Kind of the Disney cartoon kind of got that 'cause he was only stealing money from the bureaucrats I have have a t shirt with that robinhood interpretation on it. That says taxation as theft right. I love that Christians. Christians are commanded. And this should be for everybody to our command scripture to love to pray to be kind to serve to forgive to be truthful to worship the one God to learn and grow in both spirit and character character. All of those things are very personal. They require no politicians. Police bureaucrats political parties or programs. I mean the whole idea of up. Bureaucrats police politicians political parties. And all of that interfering with a person's truthfulness and worship and praying that was what the Pharisees and they were all about Jesus literally direct again. That was all Old Testament the Ten Commandments. Yeah you know you do this. Or you're GONNA get stoned. Why do you see this? Those are just laws in general. You shouldn't have to have laws to force people to get into heaven. You know these. Yeah it should be all things that you want to do to be to be a crisp character of in your community. It should be things that you want. not things that you're forced to do or otherwise hell and and Hellfire so well as I understand it. I don't think they were actually chilly. Any threats have hellfire within the Bible. I think that's largely result of people missing misunderstanding Dante's Inferno Inferno Paradise lost and putting them inside side of scripture the but I know references the bottomless pit. That's essentially reserve for Satan. Though the hell has a fire but souls are destroyed. They're not tortured. That's right but I mean if you just if you just go through the Old Testament and you Dissect every little thing that the Old Testament God was doing and he was raining fire down on cities he was. He's flooded the entire world. He was out of control is that he. He was all about blood sacrifice. Very little we'll have love relation to love me. You'll sacrifice your son and he held off. You know almost let it happen till the very end to see how Abraham Isaac chip up then. His daughter were not so fortunate his daughter was in fact sacrificed to so I mean if you actually so yes. There is literal human sacrifice within the Bible in the book of judges. And if you start to look into the nonstick School of thought you'd really do. I have been questioning for many years. The Old Testament God and the New Testament. God are there night and day. They're not the same person. No they're clearly not hippie. All love your neighbor do unto others and all that and the Old Testament God is like do as I say I will annihilate you correct and he so Jesus was the throughout his entire existence on this planet. All all he was doing was questioning basically the Old Testament. God the only in the Chris. There'll be like oh he was just questioning the state the Romans. Nah He was questioning the Old Testament it and the establishment. And that's why his his own guys as people his own family basically. We're the ones who were the ones that killed him. See I think the whole thing has gotten twisted and this is why Melissa Furry because The good character in the Old Testament is without a doubt Lucifer and y'all way is the monstrous evil abomination murdering God correct. You can also argue that That cain might have not been so bad as he is portrayed yet remember that this this is all these are all story got inspired that spike these. I think here's my interpretation of that event and by the way this is these are all stories of written written by man by men trying to. They're trying to endorse their doctrine. There in the Old Testament is basically is basically narrowly form of government. He was it was a way to control the people to keep them from going often eaten cattle. I mean eating pigs and killing themselves are doing a number of things. They're all laws to keep their people in order. They were early. Laws part of an early government and the states. 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Today refuse to do they have the same blind trust and authority that is indicative of the Old Testament. God is I'm the Authority you trust in me. You do what I say. Or you be destroyed and then you have exactly without among the Socialists on the left because I've spoken with these people. Some of them who are totally okay with this idea of if you don't want to contribute to planned parenthood good the most obvious example. Then you should have a gun put against your head empty robbed if you don't want to participate in our climate scam. AM and give money to the government to fix the problem. That's going to destroy us in the next ten years You need to be locked up now. I'd actually heard these people talking that it should be. It should be a thought crime and you need to be taken care of. We can't have you spreading this nonsense not wanting to give money to your government and as we were talking about during the break you know if there is a creator in of this universe created us then. This creator gave us the ability to use reason to analyze things things to look at things. Factually assess them and come to our own decisions to refuse to do that. By blindly trusting in an authority figure or just what other human beings I have to say is ten amounts of heresy. In my opinion you're rejecting the gifts that this creator that you believe in gave to you correct and giving him the middle finger in the process. Because this other human being this fallible stupid silly human being because we're all stupid and silly infallible. You're going to trust that hat over what nature has clearly bestowed upon you right. You show me these these divine angels. That can do no wrong and I might sit down and and listen. But if you're if this if these laws and regulations and ideas and philosophies are coming from a fallible human being then of course yes I'm GONNA question them even if even if you're my friend you're my family member my parents you know my children. I'm going to question every every aspect because you know that is that has been given that is my ability. That is my power. That's that's what my creator has given me right and you're to not use that. Well I'm I'm basically spit in the face of my creator. I'm like an Iowa just I'm just GonNa have I'm just GONNA blind faith in this ideology and just and just take take this human. Being as fallible human being for his word and this creator you would imagine would appoint you similarly applying the same skepticism and gifts of reason and rationality analogy to the things that this creator I guess directly speak with you about except courageously. Nobody's getting spoken to by a creator is is GonNa be far more subtle and things like that like the fact that we have the gift of reason according to the according to what the stories from the Bible no one gets. Let's talk to by the Creator and he lenders no burn bushes. No certainly nine less unless you're on. You're taking mushrooms. It was what Daniel Craig I think is the the the religious apologist whose most popular did. I don't remember his name. I think Daniel Craig William Lane Craig. That's it I was emailing with him once and I was like okay. Hey well here's an idea. Then why don't you go outside. Poor twelve barrels of oil ONA calf and ask your God to set it on fire for you and I will use the gifts society to set set kappa fire. We'll see which one of US actually results in burnt calf. And what and what were the results he. He never responded to that a particular inquiry naturally. Because it's all apologists today. No one has the faith that is displayed in the older books. Oh because because you said it in the opening it's heresy the question the teachings right. It's heresy to not have faith in the unseen the unseen divine. I've never seen an angel. I've never spoken with. I have spoken with people who think they spoke with angels. But I've never seen an angel. I've never seen any evidence of this but according to these religious books except they passed. This evidence is everywhere. You can't throw a rock without hitting an angel. According to the Old Testament you would send them to burn down your entire city Eddie. And you're never dissolved with that type of attitude. Are you never gonNa see an angel or aliens or ghosts. Because you just a skeptic. Well I tend to trust what my eyes tell. Tell me because that's all I have to go on and and Rationality yeah well so I do have a theory about Cain. Okay all right so going back to my premise. The early Abraham religion was in fact the first a very early form of government. And that's all it was. It was laws ause. He was regulations. It was do this. Or Fire and brimstone so and so and so one of the very first well Moses essentially the first king though I mean. He rolled those people he told them. What the laws were he was he was a tribal leader? Thomas Paine came along several centuries later and definitively definitively proved that Moses absolutely did not have anything to do with the first five books of the Bible but putting that aside for a moment. Oh yeah these are. These are laws that were probably be getting scraped up and put together for hundreds and hundreds of years so one of the first tales from Genesis was the story of Cain and Abel able at both sides. This of the I think the first two sons of of Adam and Eve. And there was also seth third. But CAIN was a farmer able was a a herdsman and they both gave sacrifice to the early fire and Brimstone God of of the new the Old Testament and and he did. This particular guy didn't care much for canes sacrifice which was plants which is right but he loved the blood sacrifice that that able gave. So let's let's reiterate that that the God that people worship loves blood sacrifice graphite right now. They're now there is a there is a theory that he didn't give his best vegetables. Sure but I think that it had more to do with the blood. Because we're talking about the Old Testament God so anyways later on Cain and Abel coralled they're out in the field Canaan it up hitting over the head with Iraq. Kill him dragging his body off in the woods and God was like. Where's my you know? The blood cries out or whatever from the rocks because he knew exactly what had happened and he knew it at the Old Testament Megani what had happened and in a casting kane out right which is very curious because this God was killing. Everyone else if you you know if you Win Win against him. You're getting you're getting cast out with a mark on your phone. You were getting you. Were slain your your whole your whole villages being burned down now before before or after the fall I tend to think it would have to be after the flood. The fall the fall of This is way after the eating of the freight that's thoughts so my human beings were according according to the Christian theology mortal at that point and got to abstract the garden was lost to them they were childbearing. They were the snake. You know you you know that they were walking around barefoot in the briars and it was all pain and suffering and so yeah. They gave birth in the two first sons for whatever reason Here's my theory. I believe able went to Kane and demanded that he give a better her sacrifice to this Old Testament God able was in fact I tax collector. Cain wasn't having because he saw through he saw through do all the nonsense is like. I'm not GonNa Follow your you know your your government your leader. I'm not going to follow your rules. They got into a coral in. You know one ended up dying the point but my big question is why didn't the Old Testament God kill Cain. Why was he sent out and back to the NAS Tech School of thought? It's because Cain was untouchable he figured out the Old Testament God for what he truly was and he became untouchable and he couldn't be harmed. You figured out that we were just trapped in these material bodies. Our souls are trapped in these bodies and He escaped fascinating stuff. We're GONNA continue on with this this Christmas Eve. It's free talk. Live eight five five four five zero three seven three three most of you know that heart disease is the number one silent killer in the US. What if I told you for just fifty four ninety five a month you could fight against heart disease naturally at heart and body extract? We've been helping thousands of people get back to a healthier heart. Don't just take my word for it. Check out all of the success stories at HP extract dot com or to order. 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Talk Radio that you control Cohen and talk about whatever is on your mind. That number's eight five five. Four five zero. Three reese seven three three and with you tonight it's Ari and Conan and we've been talking about the Bible. Various interpretations of the Bible Various Stories from the Bible and we have a Christian. Who probably isn't terribly happy with the things whipping saying gene? The Christian enter. You're on free. Talk Live Ho Ho. Oh Ho. Merry Christmas everyone Actually no I think you guys are right on the money. This is very much in line with what I believe in. Don't trust too much of anything. Anything that the modern church teaches Other than the Christmas tradition of love and forgiveness. I think that's the essence of what our creator really is. He has nothing to do with judgement and damnation. And all of this nonsense and so you reject the Old Testament excessive. I reject most of the Bible. Actually that's a curious position for a Christian to take well but I'm a Christian anarchist. I only believe bit First of all. I think it's silly to think that the Bible has not been changed for political gains. I think obviously it would have to have been the the early Romans would have definitely made this A propaganda piece so that people would behave and do what they're told which is exactly the opposite of what I think that Christ's life was all about. He was obviously killed as a political prisoner pre political. Aw Advocate again. He was killed for treason against the state team. There's some echoed there. Can you be well the let me see if I can try. And yes. So essentially Jesus was was. I've got to meet you. Essentially Jesus was executed for treason correct. He was questioning the the early church and They they had to make an example out of him. They tried for many years. He was constantly on the run. They finally got a hold of him And as far as the early church and it being it falling into disrepair the early disciples. You know I believe misinterpreted Turpin a lot of what he said and when they started building the new the early church well they must have. Because it wasn't Paul who was supposed to build it in the first place. He just did because he was a status and he saw all eighty opportunity to grab power. Set Him up self up as the first pope but it was supposed to be Peter about whom and from whom we hear nothing else yea it was definitely from the very from the very first steps. It was a power grab to build a structure for for the early church to give these fallible men Power over the over the rabble. It was early government. Yeah it was an early state for sure so Jesus says it's interesting because Jesus is very anarchic in these types of things. He advocated he was certainly not a statist right. He recognized recognize that aggression is wrong. Clearly because when when it wants to be aggressive against so if we're following the idea that it's better to do unto your neighbors as you would do in two years as you would like liked to have done to you. Well no one wants to have a gun put against their head and be forced to do things against their will right and is automatically right and when in the anarchy we speak of is not the ANTIFA throwing bottles through windows you know flipping over cop cars anarchy which is not true anarchy were talking about no rulers. There's not no rules because he's had lots of rules. Sure for the individual to roll rules for the individual had had to do with it. What were those well? The first one that immediately comes to mind is the golden rule the second one. I don't know if it was so much say role as it was a great idea but it comes down to generosity city and compassion about how someone ask you for a thing that thank plus some but I don't think that was released specified as a role or as a command. I and I don't think he did a whole lot of commanding but he was throwing out a lot of need ideas like turn turn the cheek. Give give unto others Do onto others as you would have them do unto you. Of course yeah. He wasn't doing a whole lot of you need to do this. Because that would have gone counter to what what he was actually teaching right. I hey this is a good idea and it would probably be great if more people did it. As a libertarian. Anarchist voluntarist terraced. That's all I ask for. I just I just want. Hey I've got a good idea. Would you listen to my good idea. Maybe maybe it's something you'd want to do. And and every in everyone else on this planet so I've got a good idea. How do I make my neighbor? Conform ISO fire and Brimstone God became co opted opted by the states and became part of the state because that mentality exists because the the response we get from status when we talk about this go to jail. Or what. What are you going to do if someone murderer's though when you're perfect libertarian? Society they want that fire and Brimstone Esser they want to be told. Oh Yeah we're GONNA punish them but but the answer according to Christ was forgive them. And that's what I think. The answer is you can. Well you don't have to. I mean if some Yokel Gokul kills your brother I guess Christ would say forgive that person but I mean I was in fact murdered murdered and I did forgive her murder. How and how long did it take for you to come to those terms? Probably ten twelve years so it wasn't right off the bat but I mean what what what what were. You a libertarian. Utopia how they handle how they actually handle something like that. Because the way I would handle his excommunication what they free market rewards good behavior and we know from uh-huh countless psychological studies when reward. Good behavior you get more of that behavior you reward bad behavior you get more of that bad behavior but you don't necessarily prevent bad behavior what you punish. The has the attention that generally matters. So if you have a society setup that almost by definition rewards good behavior behavior rewards honesty trustworthiness forthrightness and these sorts of characteristics. People who exhibit those characteristics will excel while people who don't want so. They're not being punished except by their own action. Slates type of meritocracy where we are. You are judged based on you know on your merit on what you're giving to the community and that's the way that it has the way that it should be. That's the way this country should be but I mean of course isn't the rich of course are are going to do far that the the children of the rich will do far better than Than everyone else you know whether you have connections is going to get you further in this life So no there's it's not. It's not based on the content of the book. It is a lot a lot of returns based on the actual cover which is sad it us so. Let's go back to the story about Jesus not being a socialist. Despite the attempts of the socialist who by the way are largely atheists in the first place. It seems kind of messed up to shame someone for not following the teachings of their religious person when you don't even believe in that religious person he's a mythological person anyway so that's not a problem it doesn't matter whether he was real or not but he can be whatever someone wants him to be. The question is whether or not the Bible supports that interpretation correct so we left off with the fact that you don't need politicians. Police bureaucrats political parties or programs programs. You shouldn't need those things in order to do. Good quote the poor. You will always have with you. This is from Jesus and you can help them anytime you want says Jesus in Matthew Twenty six eleven mark fourteen seven the keywords they are you can help and want to help. He didn't I didn't say we are going to make you help. Whether you like it or not in Luke twelve verse. Our chapter thirteen through fifteen. I feel like take that first statement is the more important that the poor you will always have with you because I think people lose sight of that one that you can't you can't fix stupid. No not can't fix you're always is going to have poor people. You'RE GONNA have rich people. You're always going to have a whole round plethora of everything you can't you can't fix things you can help nope but even so they're always going to be here. Today's poor person is wildly richer and more comfortable than the poor person of up two and a half centuries ago so it's all relative right. We look at this poor person I think. Oh no they only have a forty two inch television right to computers an xbox uh this this poor poor person three hundred dollars cell phone in her pocket clearly. We need to rob some rich person to make sure that this person gets to upgrade to at least fifty two inch by the way one of the sins that's envy it's all at what socialism is by the way it's all about envy it's all about this guy's got something that I don't don't have and I'd like more of it. I'd like some of it even if I didn't earn it even if I'm not even if it's if I didn't put the blood sweat and tears To due to earn that device myself someone else has it and well I I. I think I'm entitled and it's easy to see how respect for private property was what put an into that during the age of cavemen. Obviously let's just not get into that but if a person owned a thing that other people wanted and that person tried to take it from them well there was an actual fight over it wasted resources. Everyone lost no one one and finally they were like you know what You keep your thing. I'll keep might know someone did win. The bankers bankers always win came way later. Talking like prehistory funded both tribes. Well in the the case was so. We're talking early history. We're can prehistory talk. In the guys on Jericho the guys up on the hill who raided the farmers as he. I'm talking prehistory long before the written worth like twenty thousand BC era eight five five four five zero three seven three three. Have you heard of liberty. 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Bring to all mankind and I think that was exactly the essence of what he did in Rome. Didn't like it. They killed them for it and after he was dead. I think That the powers that be found that it was a powerful message and and it was a powerful awful movement and like every other governments throughout history. They want to co-op those movement that are popular with the people and twist them and turn them into something that they're not so that the people will be fooled by and I it was done authoritarianism. It seems is to just have these same tendencies no matter what form it takes whether it's the Roman Catholic Church or whether it's the state or whether it's just The Christian Bible as a whole it seems seems to an ultimately come down to do as we say or face the consequences exactly and I and I totally reject the you know the punishment side aide of the message of the Common Church or the the the church at large. Because I don't think I think that our creator would do that. I don't think that he is kind of person that just wants to burn his creation. That's what we are as his creation and He loves his creation. I don't think he's going to do that. That's why I believe in universal salvation. I believe that everybody save or will be saved and that that nobody's going to hell because such place doesn't really exist and people say well. What about Hitler and I say well? Yeah what about Hitler you use. It was about as evil Liz. They come but certainly but he was also a Christian so according to the Christian theology he is in Heaven Yeah. I don't know a lot about what his beliefs where but at any rate it. I don't think it matters because if you believe that Jesus died for everyone since then he died for Hitler since two right so I want to think that Hitler is saved and in in in GonNa be enjoying all of the eternal life that the rest most of us have well personally that bothers me. The the idea of eternal life bothers me. If I thought this crap lasted forever I would kill myself now. Well don't know this crap win. It's going to be better you know it's going to be perfect and speaking of that Jane. What is your understanding outstanding of Heaven? Because I heard a joke along time ago was ultimately taking a stab at politicians that you know they went to they. They say you're GONNA. It gets a preview heaven and hell and then you'll be able to decide which one you want someone they went to Hell. They were playing golf with their friends and drinking and having a good time then they went to heaven and they described it as floating around on clouds all the time singing songs to God and that to me sounds like one of the most horrifying descriptions of an eternal life that I would ever hear so they decided they wanted to go to hell instead. Played Golf Yeah and there was like and then they got down there and started being tortured. Richard Gibbs let me finish such Satan said. Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted. Yeah I think all of it is It's just mankind trying to imagine what it is. I think it's another dimension that so far above what we are in. It's like a flea trying trying to imagine what it's like to live in a penthouse. You know I mean our our our ability to comprehend but this next dimension is going to be like is so far. Our ability is so far under what is actually going to be there that it's kind of pointless really to try to imagine what it is because whatever we imagine it's not GonNa be at anyway. We're not even come close so I I think it's better just to have faith and believe that where we're going is a much better place and we're all going to fit. They're just like Yeah like I would have to disagree as the Atheist Lucifer and end the room if there's ever going to be a heaviness we're going to have to make it ourselves here on earth. Well that's never gonNA happen. Well that's that's a bleak and terrifying view chain especially coming from Chris Hanukkah's because I believe that love will ultimately went out that we will ultimately create heaven here on Earth in freedom love and peace. Now people are too evil for that that there's always going to be good people but there will always be bad people and they're going to screw it up for everybody else so so you're not an anarchist. Then right I believe the net but is not possible there will always be people out there gene right but but if the evil people do something to me I do something to them back. See that's that's that's finch's forgiveness that you were talking about ten minutes ago. Well No. That's what he taught us but that but we're imperfect and we're never going to actually actually get to be perfect so we have to try us to be perfect for sure. Roller certainly events rather than forgiveness is not striving to be perfect as is being one of the people that you were talking about will always exist. Well I mean you. There's tit for tat and you certainly have to so. You're an advocate of eye for porn. I not necessarily for TATA's iphone. I think I think you definitely have to deal out justice at some point wind in your life at some point it will be your duty to deal out justice. Justice is because you seem to think it's vengeance. No I think the justice is getting somebody getting what they deserve okay so jets ventures your judge your Jerry. You're say this is what you deserve. And it's my place or for someone else's place to put it upon you. That's FINCH's gene. It's my place. Let me stop only get justice and say. I advocate vengeance okay. I advocate vengeance. For Justice and they're not synonyms. You can't have vengeance and justice together mutually listening you know because that's what the words I disagree on this shirt because I I think that you what we have now is. We have a so called government that gives out justice and we can see how imperfect they are now. My justice is imperfect as well however I have a vested the interest in that justice sort of state and I know that the the thing that the state doesn't have that I have is that I have responsibility bounce ability if I render justice to somebody and I was wrong or I was not providing the proper justice for the item. Then somebody's GonNa come back and render their justice upon me see see you keep saying justice when what you mean is finishing actually. Let's be clear there the same what you want and interpret them to be the same thing no no no. They're they are defined as the same thing. They're used the same engines as punishment men inflicted or retribution. Exacted for injury or wrong. You use this John's but what I'm saying is that because you're not going to get the same definition for the justice is only because vengeance and that mindset that. Hey we have to punish people who do something wrong has so thoroughly invaded our society because of religious teachings that you can't take whatever definition of when the government does it. They have no they have no liability. They have no so if we gotta checks and Balance System where we could hold the government accountable for its misapplication of what your colleague Holly Justice. Would you be okay with a state. If we had a machine that would generate energy forever without. I mean you're you're you're talking about something that's never going to happen because you might as well be talking about perpetual motion machine. No question was pretty clear. Question is is clear but it's it's nonsense you'd never going to get a government that's going to be able to be held accountable. It's not going to happen. 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Because because you brought up the definitions of justice and vengeance and evidently there there recorded as being the same except justice is phrased. It's a little bit more nicely. But I would argue that you know. People only thinking those terms because of the thousands upon thousands of years of religion and state that have convinced people that punishing someone for wrong. Doing is the way to fix the problem correct. I mean the back to the Old Testament. God He's a vengeful fool. God right all right so this date this has been hammered into our heads that we are two different things vengeance injustice. I would argue. They are but most people seem to have that status brainwashed. Where they're the same thing I I don't see that at all? I think that people see justice as a good thing and vengeance as something you should never partake it. Even the states would save. Engines is not the way to go. You're right but let me use these mental gymnastics and euphemisms to escape the fact that what they're advocating like Jane here let me actually read the definitions so he can so being dissect these vengeance punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong. which by the way? I don't have a problem with. I'm an eye for an eye kind of guy okay. Okay let's read justice. Justice is the maintenance or administration of what is has just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments. So basically here's how I see. This vengeance is on an individual level. I am taking out retribution on you on a personal personal level. That's vengeance. Now if I enact my government my community. My people my tribe to enact that's into collect that same retribution. Go through some law are through the power of government that would be justice so essentially the same except justice. has outsourcing outsourcing vengeance to another level to another entity so they're the same they're basically the same except except one has been justified whereas vengeance is. He's never all right even though I think it I'm perfectly justified. The the administrator the Democracy Oh the people the masses says the fifty one percent got together says. Hey you know. It's all right to forest this group of people to the back of the bus because fifty one percent of a said it's justice it's we're going to make a law and we end and we'll justify this law so you would say that when I'm gathering here is that you would say vengeance is better then justice. Oh Yeah it's cleaner it's more true it's more it's more. It's you taking retribution. Your hands you taking responsibility and by the way. Hey if you're going to go up against let's bring up the idea of someone wack in my brother sure and I take it into my hands to to seek retribution to to to to seek vengeance on that person I might come to the I might come to the conclusion throughout my exploits. Trying to track this guy down and take care of business that I might Wanna forgive him when I whereas whenever you outsource it to someone else. This is just like the whole charity argument. When you outsource charity to another level you lose all the charity? Charity doesn't exist any longer. So when you outsource vengeance call justice you have your government do it for you you just. You're not getting your. You're not getting your full plate it's empty. It's it's just empty words empty. Meaning it's not as meaningful. It's not as powerful as if you were to go out and take matters into do your own hands and to seek justice on your to seek personal individual justice see on a personal level. I'm I'm opposed to that because I think forgiveness is the better method of dealing with wrongdoing however based on those definitions I was still stand by everything I said. With the caveat that justice as it's defined needs to be radically redefined or find another word to use sure justice is when people think of justice so they think of nobility an honor that so I think the word is fine. It's just and how we use the word as a synonym for vengeance. But who gets to define so we're talking right. Justice is defined by the administration right. We'll see I want. And that is that is defined by the fish fifty one percent get to decide what is justice site but I want to change that definition Phoenician. So that that's not what it means any more. Maybe one of our listeners can call in and tell us what word we should be. Using in our libertarian utopia when we're dealing with rabble-rousers when we're dealing with people who are causing issue causing problems causing harm to their neighbor. Because as Jane pointed out such people will always exist. I agree with him. You will always have dumb. People will always have rich people. Were always GonNa have bad people certainly on this on this in this simulation that we reside it in they have been coded in to always try to flip the boat always try to poison the well they oh there will always exist. I don't WANNA do anything to punish them them. Though and I think this is where I diverge for most people because of that that psychology that tells us that rewarding could behavior is far more effective than punishing bad behavior. Aver I guess it depends on. I guess I believe in punishments that are deserving and that are all also meaningful also come from the person who has been in the pain has been afflicted on if if you were receiving punishment from the worst person to assess what level of retribution is individual. The individuals is the the best person to decide punishment. Just look at night to September eleventh of two thousand one. The attacks of the three thousand America's whatever who died versus the three hundred thousand Iraqis who were killed as a result of it and you have countless individuals when the United States they call that justice and if those individuals had to go out on their own dime into in and to talk to receive to take vengeance it probably never would have happened but with the power of the of the mate. Is it list. Enlisted get into the military because of nine eleven number of light. I'm GonNa kill me vis thousand or fifty Afghan children because of what had this socialist entity a a a wing of the military industrial complex. That would never exist if it was individuals spinning our own money on bettering our lives. We wouldn't have the money to go overseas to cripple into. Rubble is other people's governments because some individual might have that kind of money if they wanted to use the George Soros in the coke. Brothers of the world's I think that I think that they probably if they didn't have government subsidies at their hands government handouts handouts. I don't think they would have the money to do these types of things I mean. How much money would it really cost to buy a plane ticket to Afghanistan and by an AK47 there and shoot a bunch of people Ed I don't see that happening. That is that is not I don't i. Don't see that as realistic. Yeah you could do it. 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Maybe this is the suffering that we need to teach us to want to move to the next level to to advance to the next level. That's a very Buddhist way of looking at it. Because essentially the first noble truth of Buddhism Buddhism is that there is suffering right. And it's it's Mitt to encapsulate or it's meant to convey this idea that throughout existence. The only thing that you're ever guaranteed is suffering. You're not guaranteed happiness. Just because you live doesn't mean you'll ever experience happiness but you will at some point suffer and die. I would say every single day of your life. There is something. There is some form of suffering whether it's waking up in the morning or whether it's stubbing your toe on the door on the way out or whether it's working all day long to make money to pay bills and taxes I would say I would say yes that is the that is the the definite definite in our lives is suffering in its in its its the joy of life that we actually have to work towards to achieve. And what would we expect hell to be like like we would expect it to be a place or an existence where the only guaranteed element was suffering and. Yeah but at least in this life we actually. We can achieve some forms of joy through achievement. So there there does seem to be a light at the the tunnel if you will. But maybe it's like agent Smith said we're not capable of living in a utopia where there is no suffering. We just freak out. And we glit- we glitch out basically in wake up because it's because it's just too unbelievable so we need to keep us keep us bound to the simulation nations keep as joe concrete otherwise. We won't believe that it's even real interesting. So you mentioned earlier today okay that you had some examples of the Mandela effects from the Bible but real briefly you want to convey to people who may be familiar with what the Mandela affected Mandela. Effect is is a false miss remembering of a past event And I would say it is not. It is not just on an individual level. But it's actually on it's at group level. Not everyone remembers this false memory. It's a it's a shared false memory. Okay I think a lot of them are bunk. Look I I heard about this. In regard to the Baron stain bears and that was one of the worst examples. I've ever heard because you're like you're taking childhood memories. Here of third graders who saw this word written in cursive. By the way it's not implant prancing cursive the odds of people misreading reading that for well over them especially when you consider to everything out there as Stein. Yeah right now. All of a sudden they throw a stain and they're a barren stain. It's like like well. Of course you remembered wrong because you saw Stein everywhere else and of course your third grader in cursive and what you really remember. So I've add add. I'd never use that example because Because I don't know what I remembered. There's only one. There's only one in particular covered a couple of weeks ago where I do remember the Dolly's braces James Bond Moon raker Dolly had braces. I saw that. I don't know anything about it. I don't think I've ever seen well. I'm not going to want to cover that one again because I've got I've got a new one for this evening and because we're talking because it's Bible Talk Live Right. Let's let's just heresy talk live. I think we through the Bible out along time ago. I've always enjoyed. I see I grew up in the church. As did I. In fact I even attended two years of of Private Bible of Private Christian school and we. Actually you know. We were tasked to memorize verses. That's how Churchill was right now I don't remember remember. I'd never ever had to memorize these verses that I'm GonNa cover but I'm going to read you two verses from the book of Zahra I'm GonNa leave out a word okay and I want you to tell me what you think the verse what. I'm what word I'm leaving out. This is from Isaiah chapter eleven verse six. The blank will live with the lamb. The Leopard will lie down with the goat the calf and the lion and the yearling together and a little child would lead them. mm-hmm the blink will live with the lamb. I would say lion okay. Isaiah Sixty five twenty five the blank doc and the lamb will feed together in the line will eat straw like the ox and the dust will be serpents food they will neither harm or destroy on all of my Holy Mountain says says the Lord the Blink in the land will feed together. I would again say lion but it's not because I'm remembering anything. One particular way is because because based on my understanding of the Bible how it generally takes opposites like that and juxtaposes them. I burst them. Lion would be the obvious choice right. I I think exit. This is a shepherding community. They're not necessarily in the desert. They're not necessary in Lyon territory There's another animal all that I think shepherds have to deal with more often than lions and that is the wolf to actual CIA the actual versus the wolf will live with the lamb. Now if you you asked if I read these two verses the ninety plus percent of the population I think they would all say lion. I'm sure they will not. It never has been and never was. It's always been the willful awful laid out with a lion but coming back to what I was saying. I don't think as people remembering it any particular way or the other I think is the number of mentions of lions within the the Bible must absolutely dwarf the number of times that wolves are mentioned but never laying down with lambs. Ever these are the these are the only two instances of this verse where the lambs and the lions are thought to be put together okay that they will live peacefully with one another and it was. It never happened. So there's your Mandela and this is an actual Bible verse as far as I could tell. That's the only one that has to deal with Bible versus people assuming they remember something or just assuming what the word will be based on their understanding of the five on them being wrong go down to the bookstore right now and pick out a children's Bible Okay and flip through to any of the the Instances says of of Heaven on earth where they have animals and whatnot. And you're going to see interpretations of instances of lambs lions lying down with one another go on any churches with stained glass windows. You're going to see this lambs and lions you're GonNa see this and we'll certainly because the lamb is mentioned you know constantly yes during the Bible goats and wolves are mentioned significantly less. Yeah not very often at all so people were going to draw to animals a peaceful one and a the Apex Predator right. But when did this happen. How did this get? How did this? In this instance winded they get confused and I think I read. It's not question. 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T. L. for a ten dollar discount. Now we've been talking about the Mandela Affect and things of that nature but before we get back into it. We've got a caller on the line. This is A. He's calling us from Crypto Frontier Dot. Org Welcome to freetalklive. Hey glad to be here this call into wish everyone a merry Christmas from the Mariana Islands. We met you here in person hearing keen Around thanksgiving WCHS giving you were talking about sort of a free state. Project centered around which islands. I'm blanking on it. A Northern Mariana Islands. Okay right that's it so perhaps the most free place in the United States is. Is it actually a part of the United States it is is there is there. Is there civilization there or is it just huts and stuff and sand on no no. There's five star hotels and world class. Golf course send everything you could want to sustain yourself. Okay okay what is it like their day to day. Because you've moved there now correct. Yeah moved over a few days ago okay. So how's it going gird I've been running around getting everything set up so might day-to-day may not be the most representative. But I would say it's like most places right you go to work you go home. You repeat so I think in that regard. It's pretty similar. It's something more specific. You're wondering yes. So why is that better than say. Moving to New Hampshire shirt. So I'm I'm not doing anything. Related to migration or political product project by can. Speak to you from the Libertarian perspective. 'cause I think that'd be more relevant event. So as a libertarian. What's your number one issue war war? So how do you feel feel about Federal taxes funding. I don't pay more around the world. I'm not happy about it but regardless of where I get my federal federal income tax money so screw. What if you could do something to make sure that they don't get it from any of your friends either? That would be for my friends to decide more so than me. Yeah well I think incentive you outside the hypothetical libertarian. So the Hypothetical Libertarian whose against war and aggression end is really disappointed that their tax dollars are going to fund the largest war machine history of humanity while what they may not know. Is that by moving to the US territory. Such as Northern Mariana Islands. Their income will no longer be sent to the treasury and thus will no longer be funding awards but is there income there. What do you mean? It's their income. I mean it's a really small island. What they really small population is not going to sustain a booming long-term economy? You're never going to have people moving there and becoming millionaires or just upper middle class people in general. I would think you'd probably have to be fairly well off to move there in the first place. Right Komische fifteen thousand dollars per capita does that include the locals or the migrants. Hi grits working online and living. That said you teach English online right. That should be a career accessible to the the average college educated partisan the pays around twenty dollars an hour. Maybe you make around thirty to forty thousand dollars a year okay. So the jobs would have to be done like online because there aren't really enough customers there to support local employment it just depends on which sector you work if you work in healthcare sector education engineering legal firms export import import. There's lots of things you could do. But the average person who's thinking how can I saw paying for the warm What can I do the stop this this aggression while one thing they could do is move to the northern Mariana islands where their income tax when no longer used to fund it at all? Now what if we had a A quicker and easier solution for how they could stop funding the war machine like cryptocurrency. How does crypto? Oh currency they don't. I'm not saying that that connect they don't accept crypto currency. At Lockheed DOC ID Martin They don't accept Bitcoin at the IRS. Yeah but they don't accept goal they don't accept too many anything but they still expect to fund right. So that's the right likely wants to remain legally compliant because the difficulties of not being compliant or so severe many such as Irwin Schiff have been arrested. Sit for tax noncompliance. He in particular even died in prison. Ny I appreciate his sacrifice. I don't think that's effective active solution to move towards more liberty. Wouldn't you agree. I think the only way that we could ever actually move toward more liberty is to stop obeying. Yes yes I would say that. You're entirely wrong and that not obeying is the only way that we could ever move toward liberty as so it. Fifty one percent of the population said No. We're not going to comply. We're not going to obey would need fifty one. He'd let Wales maybe ten percent would do maybe five percent percent. Why are the odds of that? Happening it's one of the odds of getting the same number of people to move to Mary. Honest islands wake whoa than the other. It's the office and Candy population that large a population. What I don't know what is five percent of the American population? I don't know it off the top of my head. Three hundred twenty million one hundred sixty million yes certainly not one hundred sixty By the odds of getting even ten percent of America to no longer comply seemed to be basically zero. Mary Janas Islands would also be zero right so the Washington took on the ground right. It's the war. Machine will always exist. Strike the human history is essentially. The history of the question is do you. You WanNa be complicit in it and if you don't are you willing to legally avoid illegal ways to not be complicit but I think many people may find that unpalatable. Wouldn't you agree. I don't know what most people find acceptable and agreeable and what they don't to be totally honest. I think you could speculate right. You think the average liberal expect anything. Yeah let's see Libertarian. Pay Taxes both define libertarian. You can define it if you would like then I would say no as the act of resisting and not obeying not complying. That makes one a libertarian. So how do you have a bunch of Big Hill. Bill Weld Stout Libertarians paying taxes. Absolutely in my opinion are they those people libertarians up. No no they're mine artists so you and the men artist correct. I am not for sure. So that you define libertarian. Simply nonaggression principle is that correct correct as one who adheres to the non aggression principle but yes and is paying taxes not adhering to the non aggression principle it can because you're paying taxes under duress right so you don't really have a lot of choice. Yeah so why is it that all these people aren't Libertarians. To say you believe non aggression principle by you pay taxes for still libertarian. Right okay you got me there point so it seems so should be a million plus Libertarians in the US. Oh there's way more than that at what we've got to go Thank you so much for the call when we get back. We're going to continue talking about the Mandela effect and various examples. I've been whether or not we live the simulation eight five five four five zero three seven three three balanceofnature changing the world one life at a time back in late January February like jet home. Make myself something to a Blah Blah Blah. My girlfriend works nights fell lakes. Eight thirty eight o'clock walk to be in bed. I'm sitting there saying okay. If this is what the rest of life is like I'm doomed. Today is day fourteen of me taking bouts nature and my energy levels through through. It took me like five years of hearing on talk radio to actually write. The difference is night and day experienced the balance of nature. 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Uh The troll room is mentioned one in particular has mentioned that this is a translation. Error that the the lion and the wolf are both seen gene is similar. I'm going to say no. They're not I don't see them similar as all at all. Especially when you're talking about a shepherd and community but let's talk about the translation. Lions were a problem in the area around Egypt and Judea right so I mean it's not like they. They weren't unfamiliar and Lions are actually mentioned mentioned in both of these verses as well just not economic not in connection with the lamb but later on in the verse. The line is brought up. But let's talk about about the translation. The Latin colgate Fourth Fourth Century translation in Latin habitat have tablet lupus com. Agnew translation the wolf will live with the lamb. So all right well. Let's talk about so back. In the fourth century it was wolf and so often lamb. Why would they go to Latin rather than Hebrew for the Old Testament good point? Maybe he didn't know how to translate liberal. But I mean this is. This was the early church. So as as law as far back as the fourth century it was wolf in line. And our I'm sorry Wolf Wolf and lamb. I will so he so he moves that he moves forward in time so he skis. He is eliminating emanating. I felt like if we want to know about mistranslations from the Old Testament. We really have to go to the he but yeah exactly. But it wasn't mis translated related as far back as the fourth and sits right as far as wolf and lamb are so. Let's go back to the early eighteen. Hundreds he found a painter Edward Hicks He. He was an American quaker and he did about a hundred of these Paintings he called the peaceful kingdom and in them his favourite motif. Not F- was this Bible. Verse these these two verses. We had all these animals together and in everyone of them. Almost every one of you had the wolf the lamb right next to each other. There'd be a line in there somewhere too in a leopard and whatnot but it was always the wolf and the lamb so as far back as the early eighteen hundreds the translation translation was the wolf and land. But if you look back fifty years from today everything's stained glass windows Songs Martin Luther King and one of his famous speeches he was talking about the the lamb and the lion. So so what we're trying to do is identify win this Mixon a corruption of the biblical teaching more. So than it does I would say. It's definitely a corruption. Somewhere along the lines. It did get corrupted and he found and what he thinks a song in nineteen. Thirty seven's called peace in the valley was written by Thomas Dorsey and they said the lyrics. Well the bear will be gentle and the wolves will be tame and the lion shall lay down with the lamb. Oh yes and the beasts from the wild shelby lit by the child. And I'll change. I'll be changed. Changed changed from this creature that I am. Oh yes the ideas that this person made a mistake and that became just sort of adopted by EMI. Maybe he he was the one to first experience Mandela fact back in nineteen thirty seven. He got he got it wrong for whatever reason why Gosh Razor but why did it become so popular popular because well it was a popular song and then as Elvis Presley got his hands on it He performed. Let's see. Yeah he performed it on on the Ed Sullivan Show and then from there on history has been made it's no longer will lamb it's Lyon lamb and it's it's in everything from stained glass windows to children's bibles and everyone at a Martin. Luther King remembered it that way so this is true then we would expect that churches coaches built after about nineteen thirty seven would have lions and lambs while churches built prior to own their stained glass windows while churches built prior to that would have Wolfson. Lambs uh-huh correct. And according to the American quaker he read the correct translation. All of his paintings include the the true translation. Right this guy because the song came this song writer for whatever reason decided to maybe he side it was more powerful But then I was press got his hands on it. And then that's it so I'm going to say this one's been debunked. Yeah it has been it has been it has been a memory emory Not a memory but it is just been it's been history that has been corrupted and people took it and ran with it and I'm thinking that a lot of the Mandelas dollars could could fall into this category where someone along the line and here's where here's where a lot of it. I think it's messed up for example Some of the some of the quotes Sir. Some of the famous quotes. You got some splaine into do ricky on What's what's his face I? I don't what's in. What is the name of that show? I Love Lucy so you got some split into do never happened. Beam me up Scotty never happened. What if I told you by Morpheus in the Matrix never happened and a lot of these hold on so but where did where did he get messed stop? And I'm thinking some late and I saw the matrix tonight. Watch it thank you for that. So it's all ready to watch matrix at least once a year. I'm taking some late night show with I some late night show where you have a comedian or you have one of the actual stars and he's Rick Retail and the story of whatever and he's putting in the context of course Shatin is GonNa be me up Scotty when he's at some convention he's he's got a he has to put it into context so somewhere along the line or are the famous one from from the the Star Wars Look I'm your father. That never that was never said he said No. I'm your father but that doesn't make sense if you're at the water cooler the next day talking to your buddies you had to put it in the context Luke. I'm your father. Even though that was never cease so he didn't say the name essentially correct. Okay but everyone remember them saying the name except that never happened. Why would they remember that because someone of the water cooler than ex day? Put it into context said Luke I'm your father and then and that was it was corrupted even though in the actual movie that you've probably seen it empire who hasn't Seen Empire be at least twenty times. Yeah at least and it just never realized until it was until someone actually said it out loud. Oh by the way that never that was never said that way and then they go well of course it did say what if I told you he did say eight. I remember him saying because I can hear. I remember fish birds saying what if I told you right never did I I. It's not not that I don't believe you it's just that you know that sort of thing. It invades pop culture especially in the memes that we've seen on facebook and he's got a very distinct voice so when you see the meam what if I told did you that Blah Blah Blah. It just seems like something that he said within the movie. And that's where that got started by the way someone wanted to contextualized Lawrence Fishburne's character and what he was trying to explain in that scene and he was basically saying what. If I told you may neo that you are the one. And so. He took he took that and he. I put it in the meat in Memphis format right and everyone understood that makes sense. That's that's basically what he was talking about. He was that was the gist of his conversation. All packed act up in one phrase so Mandela effects would be explained by people taking the contextual ization of the story and adding it to what was actually Kelly said I believe so their their brains. And but it's but it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a worldwide phenomenon everyone is. It's the most human brains woodwork the same way it right. It's a cultural phenomenon where everyone her raised. Basically the same way to think the same way are going to make the same mistake this this by the way this page is a good example of defining the Mandel effect is a phenomenon in which the minority of public will retain memories of past events that have been altered from the majority and the majority will have no memory or history of that altercation and has called the Mandola fact of course because some of the earliest examples of this was people who remembered clearly remembered Nelson Mandela dying in prison correct which did right and then they were like shocked when they realized he didn't and they weren't able to reconcile reconcile those two things they need to explain it away somehow or another I would just say okay. Well I misremembered well. You might have a personal individual level Mandela Ella a glitch that you call it that you need to tell us in the next segment we're going to get into that Eight five five four five zero three seven three three. 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She was like well. What are you going to do about? Did you find out what you were going to do about a new job. Did you find out what you're going to do about this. And I had divulged this information to no one but my sister there was no one on the planet who knew anything about all of this was via text and and I received it via text message yes and eventually it turned out that she was on break so she had to go back to work as she said. I'm going to text you when I go to lunch. Never I heard from the number again and I was to not curious about it. It was an oddity at the time but looking back you know it's always bothered me then. I received a text message from someone who knew everything about what I was. What was going on in my life? Despite having shared that information with no one she that she knew too much about me she could she knew my name. She knew everything about me. She was talking to the right person. But I didn't even know a Jennifer you know. They say the best way through a situation the best way to resolve. Anything is to talk about it. You know something is on your mind. Something's bothering you. You have issues but don't keep it all wrapped up in closed in moulder so older you want to actually talk about about it and that will actually help you see your way through it. Sure see I did hear that. Jennifer was like a figment of my imagination. That's my question did did you you. Obviously you got through this problem but I mean none of it was really a problem it was just a hey. I'm closing this and I don't know what I'm going to do now and it doesn't really. It wasn't like A. Oh no I have two dollars to my name. What am I going to do for the next six months or whatever so my question? Is that anything that was talked with our tax texted. That any of the conversation station leads you to another level no it was. It was probably about ten total minutes of text messaging think and through most of that I was asking. How did you even find out about this? Oh Yeah I know that when I asked that the answer was you told me about this last night interesting. and and how many What kind of drugs and how much were you using during this period of any drug sen Because that was long after the point though head injuries no no no lack of sleep. I mean that's a perpetual thing with me though so that's not but this is the only time this is ever happened so like asleep. You can rule that out because you always I would tend to roll that out very interesting I have and how old were you. And how long ago is it was probably seven or eight years ago I have a similar situation situation but I was in couldn't have been that long ago. I must've been about four I was in Florida on the farm and my mother. Mother was watching me while she was doing some work in the barn and I knew that my father had gone to a particular canal. Go fishing fishing with one of his friends. I knew where the canal was somehow or another and so I decided to walk there. So we're talking about about a half a mile almost close to a mile down on a dirt road and across a very dangerous highway and when I got to the highway I remember what I remember walking down the highway room a whole lot. About what about anything that I did when I was was four but when I got to the highway and I saw the cars I remember standing there and I didn't know what to do with myself because it was obviously dangerous. I knew that much and Batman atman pulled up in his batmobile and he got out but it wasn't Batman but he was a batmobile and he got out and he asked me where my mom on my parents were and he ended up driving me back to the house and my mom thank them and I always remember that so clearly that the batmobiles stopped and the old the guy got out and saved me and I remember many many years later. I never told anybody that and I told my mom like humor. That guy he. He picked me up on a frigging Batmobile batmobile. He's just like I don't know what you're talking about. You shook another one lis- you rattled the old dusty cobwebs and I remember another one when I was about four years. Maybe three years old We found this dog this little puppy and my brother and I went on his moped to pick it up and bring it back to the house now. Everyone in my family insists that this was not me. It was my sister that went with him to get that puppy and bring it back right but I vividly remember over riding on the back of the moped holding the puppy while my brother drove does your sister was that she ride on the back of the moped while your brother drove. That's that's what they've told me is that I wasn't there. You claimed that Hamry for your own in fact what I ended up doing they say was I tried just walking off and finding them and then some old old lady picked me up off. The side of the road brought me home. That's what made me remember it. Well but I have no recollection of any of that. What I remember is riding on the back of the moped? I want to hear some other people's absolutely we got one here. We got John Calling from Nebraska. John you're on free talk. Live taking my call. I it kind of have a weird experience glitch in the Matrix so they got to tell you about. I must've been about three or four years old woke up early ran downstairs ears. Wanted to go turn on the cartoons on TV well the TV wouldn't turn on So I went to go sell one of my parents you know. Hey and he had the TV on. It's it's not working Nobody wanted to get up They made a bowl of cereal sat down in front of the TV It was just off. I'm just sitting there eating breakfast in front of the TV. While it's not on but I look over out the window of my breakfast and Let's see the sun is rising and it you know it seems like time has slowed down and I'm pretty sure this is not a dream. There's is no way I could have been dreaming because I mean I woke people up and everything it just seems like time slowed down and anyways years Just a couple of years ago so I I was looking at the House online. I was just curious. How much my childhood home Would you know how much it would be nowadays. But anyways I'm looking at it in that window You look at the window and the sun usually steps on the West so when I was a kid I seen the sun rise from the West. It made no sense to me so I'm just kind of puzzled glitch in the Matrix. That is fascinating John. I can't say I've ever experienced anything like that. But I mean memories turned odd thing especially when you're that age I mean both of our two of our stories raise. Were also from that age though and I remember what I remember. You remember what you remember Batman Save Your Life. Have you ever experienced a glitch in the matrix lettuce. 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Wie die Impfkampagne wieder schneller werden kann

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11:14 min | 2 months ago

Wie die Impfkampagne wieder schneller werden kann

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Sneak Peeks: Together Together, Trigger Point, and Limbo

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23:43 min | 5 months ago

Sneak Peeks: Together Together, Trigger Point, and Limbo

"On this episode of why watch that. The times that we're living in are just oh. There's so much happening. it's just politically socially health wise. I mean it's so many things happening. And what i'm seeing from sundance are like this to polar opposite experience and i feel like together together really is driving us more toward hopeful lighthearted. Just it's not stressful to watch. The writing is good enough and the cast lead by berry with callum. they are good and berry this role. You believe him. All the way as a loner assassin. Who can't remember yes. He can literally close himself off from the world closet. 'cause it's glass glass doors and things like that but the e can bring the wood and just clothes to hide themselves. Why sting interesting. Who is the sky. Why watch that has a podcast between critic and referee who go head to head on a quest to discover the best movie and tv shows. Hollywood has to offer expect the unexpected from critic clo- nothing gets past the rat. We do all worse so you don't have to welcome to. Why watch that this episode of. Why watch that is supported by moore meal plan. It helps leaders and professionals feed their bodies and businesses. Well you know critic. I got a chance to attend a wonderful. Em p. los angeles and it was so amazing because brandy cochran was able to gather people all sorts walks of life. We're able to gather together. Have real talk and some real good food. It was a hit. Its food for the soul and the body which is so hard to find so if you wanna learn more about entrepreneur meal plan whether you're entrepreneur or not go to entrepreneur meal plan dot com ally stat. Sleek pink was the last time we had all these movies. Sneak peeks while it's been We've got away today. One two three weeks and so the the buffet vampire off. Yeah one well we got three four you and it is exciting because we snuck around in diff- different different platforms different ways to sneak around with this one and most of these will be available to you if you wanna venture out One here and there may be available digitally or on demand. So you have to figure out what it is you're going to do. We will supply the info. You will supply your money to in in whatever way. Let's first start with tripoint now. Let's just sounds interesting. It is coming to us in theaters already and on friday. The twenty third on demand. So you had to go watch it. If you don't want to go out you know you don't have to but you know the critics saw this so let you know if this is something worth venturing out to see a lot of people get vaccinated. You know so. It's time to get back into the theater but you stopped. Wear your masks. So was the trade off with that. This is coming to us from brad. Turner director and it's written by michael fleekerman. Barry pepper is starring in this. You mentioned before taping. He's here right here and Column fury is also ns. Now we love column because we see him quite often and Laura vander hoop voor is also in it along with some other people that you may recognize or knocked But the the big thing. Is you know. Barry pepper is back. Do we want to be back with barry pepper. Well question you know. Barry peppers plan a guy who doesn't want to be found and because when you see his house he might go. What one house like that fell. You know he's living in an idyllic town a small town you know. They have a nice little place where he can always go and get a nice meal and you know the waitress their chats. Emma doesn't say much but he enjoys the chatting he has. There's a local bookstore. He goes there and gets books. And you know the the owner of the shots. She in he you know they have a nice conversation. He picks her little coffee pot. It's that kind of thing. But in his house he has a secret compartment of every kind. A gun you could imagine. And in his house he can literally close himself off from the world closet. Because it's glass like you know glass doors and things like that but the e can bring the wood and disclosed to hide themselves. Why sting interesting. Who has the sky so someone comes and finds him and that someone is column fiore's character what does he want and does nicholas play by berry. Want to be found. No so they actually get to this guy he is someone. You can't sneak up on him. Trigger point is the title now column comes to him and says some of your colleagues former colleagues are all dead former colleagues and we need to get down to the bottom of this. Someone close to me is missing. I won't tell you what that means help. And you better do it because What happened in your past. You might be culpable now. We find out that nicholas. He can't remember dispatced of it. He's getting flashes up. No does he know that her so of course he goes along with collins character and that takes him down a rabbit hole my friends because there is somebody out there who's very bad and supposedly nicholas knows might no web is person is if he can remember and is this person out to get nicholas because everybody else dead so they got to get this information out of nicholas as well now once nicholas gets together with columns character. You know it's like you know. A john whip kind of thing you have. Yeah you know you know where to go to get. You know certain things that you need but in the end whose left standing and what's really the truth does nicholas ever remember correctly so with that said. This is what i would say. This is what. I was thinking about shooter. That's the movie. I was thinking about shooter but this is shooter with a much budget however it has a clearer less ridiculous execution. Now we'll have to say the climactic scene is clumsy. I was like come on. Y'all with this climax come on now but the writing is cheer just good enough and the cast lead by berry with callum. They are good and berry this role. you believe. All the way as a loner assassin who can't remember yes and that makes up for the simple production bounds. So i enjoyed it. i did. I enjoyed it. What i go to a movie theater to see it. No i wouldn't but look if you're interested in anything like this i would say. Check it out in some form because it's just good. It's fun and my question is are they going to have a sequel all right. Let's move onto limbo which is also coming to us soon. And this is what you can check out in the theater as well But that's only way right now and it is coming to a on the twenty third. It is starring. Or what will i. It's britain and directed by been so he wrote it directed it and has a cast that. I think you're going to have to explain because some of these people. I never really come across with so i'm gonna let you have it what why don't keep us in limbo limbo. Yes so this is. This is what it's about we have omar and omar's played by amir and omar is an injured musician so there's a specific instrument that he plays and avi as an injury that prevents them from playing it and along with that he has left syria to go to great britain And why right. That's the question now. He's a refugee. So he seeking asylum and he expected to go to london but he ended up not london y out in a scottish island area. What's that about now. He tries to contact his parents every now and then he talks to his mother and there are family issues. His older brother is still in syria fighting in the war. Okay omar left. Why what's going on with that now. His mother tries to shield him from family issues and his mom and dad did leave syria as well. So brother stayed. Mom and dad are now in istanbul. But how's that going for them right also. No one has heard from his brother in quite a while. So okay so amara. Leftist family is at this remote scottish island and he's seeking asylum again. He's also a lot of other single men who are seeking asylum as well and they're from various parts of the globe. Now the whole thing though is if you're they're seeking asylum you can't work so you're a you get a certain stipend things like that to pay whatever bills you need to pay get food. But is that enough and he can't send money back to his parents so all of this is a problem. Now all of these men who are seeking asylum attend classes and supposedly. These classes are going to help them assimilate into the society. Now this is complete ridiculousness. I've got to say i mean. In the opening scene it depicts a lesson on whether a smile from a woman is an invitation for a whole lot. More or not okay. This is the kind of thing we're dealing with. Also a question is what happens if you're actually granted asylum right or not and omar ever play that instrument. That's always by side again or is it too much of a burden. There might be something more going on than just as injury does. It remind him too much of his family. And what he's left behind now for the four three aspect ratio so its boxed it so much of the open space. You have a lot of open space. Because it's in scotland out but it's trapped you can see what's going on with omar that way so it a in addition to that the aesthetic. Everything is so you kind of like. Is this now in. it's this it's not a period piece but that's an interesting a choice that they made here and this is what i would say if you are an adventurous viewer. Then limbo will give you an inkling. How something so serious like i described can also be quite absurd. Okay at times especially early on. It's almost like stick with ear. What napoleon dynamite would be if it had dramatic elements that you'd find an indie movie. That's i know. I know if you wanna watch this like what spots. So that's like the first part. Is he deal with tut's tax literally but it's like that lesson i said like you know if if a woman smiles is an invitation to go like crazy guys you know so okay and understood in that part. They were going for from an intellectual standpoint but it didn't quite click for me as it progressed though it homes in on the loneliness and desperation experienced by refugees as they carry their past into an uncertain future and they did that without overdoing it and that work better for me now. It could be shorter but it does have a vision that i think that indie lovers will appreciate despite that bifurcated thing everyone else. I don't well there. You have that That'll be out in theaters right now. That's the only way you're going to be able to see it on. The twenty third is the thirtieth april. Thirty april thirtieth. Sorry sorry sorry another. Why watch that sneak peek. The title is together together yes to together the title and it is written and directed by nicole. Beckwith it stars ed helms. Yes the office and so on. Yes yes yes. Andy harrison chow. Anna konkan shows up. evan jonah. Kite shows up. We got tig notaro in an interesting role fatigue or had take you go ahead. You don't give them some advice. Don't forget julio tear torres like so all of them more are into gather together. The wrath got a chance to see this at sundance saw bit of it. I didn't see the whole thing. So the rest going to tell us all about it. And tell us how it fits into. Really what's shaping as i'll current time in film weirdest together together so ref takeaway what we have Matt who's played by. Ed helms is a mid forties man white straight and he is a an app developer of the abbas loaner which is like tender except just baby people stocking like. Oh i'd like to know more about this person and so only is that ap appropriate but it's also appropriate for mets life. Because he has decided that he's not gonna wait for the right one anymore. He's not gonna wait to fall. He wants to have a child and he will have a child and he's going to donate his sperm. He's gonna find an egg donor and he meets surrogate. He needs someone to carry this child in walks anna into his life and she is a twenty something year old girl. Who has a past. She is but to say familiar with this. With carrying a child and She is looking to further her future. So this is advantageous for her to be a surrogate for matt and she's clinical. She's ready to go. Let's get it going and matt is a little bit more. He prize and he wants to know more and he wants to be a you know in the birthing process the whole the whole from all the way from the beginning to the end now matt finds that having anna in his life is not only glowing to expand his social schedule and calendar but it also expands what he wasn't expecting and that is friendship. But the question is does anna. Want the same thing. Because she's ready for this baby to be born and ready to move on. And so you find that these two have to reconcile What they are because usually with a surrogate you know. There's sometimes they're rounds of ducks. They're not around dish there a man and a woman and are they together together or are they dust there for the transaction. And that's what this film explores. I mean that's basically the plot with you know you could and you and it's like a situational. I mean this could be a situational comedy. One hundred percent It's not it's The director called it. She said we've created no. I'm sorry the The person who through the qa so the director has created a new genre. It's not romcom because not a romantic comedy because it explores true platonic exchange. What does that look like. Especially when you're going through a major life changing event so that's just the plot. Here's what i have to say about it. I m putting together together up there with experience that i had with coda. It was an absolutely charming film. That had it was politely. Funny i had literal laugh out loud moments. There were plenty of moments. Where i was. Just if it's understated comedy it. It's a feel good movie. It feels good and the chemistry of both ed and patty or phya and all the cameos take coming in as the a psychologist You know all the other folks who are coming in and doing their jobs nora dunn coming in doing some hilarious work. Su fei bradshaw coming in doing her funny technician work you know. Everybody was appropriately placed to provide the story with heart and with a bit of laughter and likeness to it now because adding a strong character. I was a little nervous that they were gonna go into more of a political direction. You know Strong feminists feminism. And you know that kind of of of exchange. And i thought the writer director did a beautiful job of balancing life funny moments with new ideas and new ways of of of love new ways of talking about true deep passionate love. That doesn't always lean more towards the romantic this movie to be honest listeners. That i would watch it again. I enjoyed it. It was beautiful. It was wonderful. Now i'm gonna go back to and it was well shot. well written. I mean i. I can't say enough about it. It just was a pleasure. I'm going to go back to what you asked Like where does this fit in this movie. We talked off. Line the critic and i about the times that we're living in artist. Oh there's so much happening it's just politically socially health wise. I mean it's so many things happening. And what i'm seeing from sundance like this to polar opposite experience and i feel like together together really is driving us more toward the code leeann the troop zero land the hopeful lighthearted just it's not stressful to watch. I'm not stressed. I don't feel like i have to figure everything out the landings duck. It was a beautiful landing that left up when questions but also just enough to not tear rise you to torture you like so sometimes it. Just there was no stress. It felt really good to get those endorphins going in my body and i think that's the reason why you watch together together if i were you listeners. If any of that plan appeals you. Just what i if you liked coda. If you're seeing this time or you like trump zero or if you like any romcom movie but with a twist especially you got the the comedy of being pregnant and birth. I mean that's always going to be funny at some point. I really think that this is. I think you should try it. Give it a whirl. It's it is a friday night. It's a saturday day. It's a sunday day sunday night. Bring the kids in like a couple of f. bombs may be but if they could tolerate it. It really isn't a movie for everybody. will your significant other who doesn't like rom coms like it. Maybe not but it's tolerable. it's not cheesy in hoax. The end like the music is doing stuff So that's that's that's my suggestion for together together for you. I think it's a great offer from sunday. It's something a little different but we're getting from the festival. And i liked that so i think you should enjoy it again. We don't know when it's big released but if you're listening to it as the critics said and it is out there for you to see. Do you need to get out of your house to see it. I say this this this one if you need to get out of your house. I don't think you'll be disappointed in knits. It will work probably better at home. Yes so you heard that mayor and note even people who might not be all the way with it. They will be able to tolerate together together. Thanks for listening for additional resources visit. Why watch that dot com good idea and we'd love to hear from you so go ahead and leave comments feedback and you can read some. It we'll see you next week see him.

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Episode 13 | European Pirates in the Indian Ocean

Masala History

34:28 min | 1 year ago

Episode 13 | European Pirates in the Indian Ocean

"Yes i do hardly repent. I repent. I had not done more mischief and that needed not cut the throats of them. That focused and i am extremely sorry that you aren't hanged as well as we. This is what from an anonymous buyer. It right before he was hanged taken from captain. Charles janssens a general history of the pirates i published in seventeen. Twenty four by roussy is probably as old as the idea of oceanic trade itself but exactly who is buyer. The pirate is not always the swashbuckling man with an eye patch. A paradigm shoulder using colorful language is popular literature tells us although i'm somewhat sure that on the high seas one could not do without colorful language. A virus is someone who robs a commits illegal acts of violence on the seas or within towns. Close to the the thieves in marauders often resorting to violence to claim weld carried by motion vessels throughout the consent of a state or state like authority. They can act in groups and often had a flotilla of sailing armies with them simply put apayart is someone who lives about the law but rather than defining the pirates as a lawless irabu. How 'bout we examine piracy as a political tool that is if someone is designated as pirate then who gets to call him one. And whose law is it that a so-called by it is breaking move. This is the masala has podcast. I am the immortal and it is my pleasure to welcome you to a first episode back after a very long sabbatical is part. One of our two butts series on the pirating of the indian coast. In this episode we will encounter the early european pirates. Who plied the waters of the indian ocean and the arabian and red seas. And we will also consider why indian waters with such attractive space for these parts. I wanna start by saying that. At least some of the early. European raiders in the indian ocean certainly did not start out as pirates. For example the captain of the vessel. Seahorse was sent to the red sea under roy command to capture spanish ships when england was battling spain for supremacy of the americas in this case. He was instructed to attack and village the opposing nations vessels in contrast the two ships samaritan and roebuck cruising. The red sea in sixteen thirty five were attacking not just spanish but even michael ships. They were stained onto the patronage of to london motions and the silent partner who turned out to be endymion porter. Who was a gentleman of the king's bedchamber the captain of roebuck decided to attack any ship in spat in indian ships. Even though britain was not at war with the mughal or any other indian puzzles and no one had given the this captain burnish into the ships. It seems like the indian ocean had a talent to make ordinary sailors into virus as soon as they sailed the band of cape of good hope. The red sea and the arabian sea. Where attractive looters because all trade. The red sea from india was paid with gold and silver ships returning to india. Where treasure chest waiting to be rated a lot of europeans british dutch french portuguese and others. We're only too keen to try their luck in the indian ocean because of the temptation offered by these riches but it was not only europeans. Who were engaged in piracy. European records from the seventeenth and eighteenth century arrive with descriptions of indian and arab pirates also called rovers who made the waters of western indian ocean especially close to the coast dangerous places. But let's make something clear at the onset. The so called indian pirates which will discuss in the next episode were somewhat different from the european pirates because in many cases if you look through historical records of events you would notice that most groups that the europeans termed as indian pirates not really pirates at all in the conventional sense of the word cure. The most important point is that the pirate is supposed to be someone who lives outside the law but whose law in an era before the united nations and international water laws and treaties who decided the rules of trade and combat especially on the sees. The answer is everyone and no-one each nation state empire or kingdom worked within their own set of laws that often were in direct opposition of each other in the seventeenth century when the british were yet to colonize and reigns supreme in south asia. The many different actors making an enacting laws in the indian sees for example. The portuguese in the sixteenth century came up with catis a trade license or pass issued by them to ships flying in the indian ocean the carta system and the violence inflicted by the portuguese on those who did not adhere to the system brought an end to the traditional cross a-share. Dick trade prevalent in the indian sees for centuries up until then when the portuguese babo weakened in the indian ocean subsequently the dutch and the british issued their own passes demotion ships that allowed the ships to pass unmolested through the indian ocean and neighboring seas but which of these battles were wedded at any given time depended on a number of factors from the ability of a trading company to exhibit. Their knee will force to what wars are being fought in europe to complicate the system. Further in the late seventeenth century. The new murata empire in india following its inception under the great warrior king. Shivaji in sixteen seventy nine also began to heavily in west in coastal trade. And if the british are to be believed the murata's invested greatly in pyrotechnic trade as well however the so called piracy of the murata's or of any other indian actors in the suggests the cds of jenjira or the coal-lease of sultanpour must be properly situated within the politics of the western coast of india at this time because the europeans in india including the british the french the dutch and the portuguese classified indian men of c aspire. It's when it suited them so for example the cities of jenjira who constantly refer to as by riddick nuisance in the mid to late seventeenth century by the british and the portuguese. We're not in fact marauders. But a small dynasty seafaring family unit authorized in the late seventeenth century to ply the seas and tax ships by the mughal emperor in her book. Shanty sadique ali informs that in sixteen seventy seven emperor arm sabe provided the cities with men provisions and four ships including two men of war battleships commanded by cdc awesome and city some bowl before mughal patronage said these may have migrated to the region of mood in present day. Western maharashtra army generals send in the fifteenth century from the nuggets alternate to the konkan coast in this history. It up that the cities where not by ritter tall but distinguished generals with a political news on the subcontinent however contemporaneous british records still continued to call them by routes. So the question of who is a pirate is really a question of which kingdoms power was greatest at sea and who had the means to exert. Their nations will often far away from home. The so called indian. Pirates are a topic of interest in the next episode particularly the fears maharastra angry but in order to understand the impact and significance of indian quote unquote. By rec- it is first important to context. Realized piracy large in the notion of the seventeenth century. That was more famously carried out. By those i call global pirates men lashley european who sailed the seas of the world from the americas to the indian ocean islands looking for merchant ships village and these are a heroes for this episode. The first european pirate in the indian ocean is thought to be winston soldiery a portuguese sailor accompanying vasco da gama in his second washed in fifteen to just like many future pirates. So drain likely deserted his crew sometime after the portuguese fleet rounded the cape of good hope in mid june of that year like soldiery most european pirates started out with legimimate papers spout of company trade or as crew commissioned by private european merchants often. They ended up in the indian ocean even when the papers were cleared for other parts of the world. John hand for example was given birth to take his vessel from bristol to lisbon and from there on to brazil. He set sail for madeira but then he gathered his crew at madeira and announced that there had been a change of plans and that they were heading to india hand was happy to just trade in the indian ocean but will turn into a buyer it if other merchants refused to sell him their wares at the price he demanded somewhat living up to the popular representations of pirates hand was quick to temper and his endgame rather swiftly when he went ashore in sumatra infuriated that the sumatran had used to trade with him he set sail to the shore muttering that he was going to teach the quart black dogs on court a lesson unfortunately for him and fortunately for the sumatra the pistol in his pocket went off and killed him the british eastern company struggling to get its foothold on the indian subcontinent was troubled in more ways than one by these european and particularly british and british american pirates on the one hand the east india company ships where rated with no mercy by many of these european pirates and on the other hand when british pirates captured an indian ship the merchants of the east india company where the ones that were left on the mainland to face the wrath of the indian potentates especially off the powerful moguls in your had a longstanding trade with the arabian peninsula in the winter ships from the western coast would head to the red sea with traders and bill rooms d'amico when monsoon arrived a few months later they would gather their profits from milka and jeddah and return to their home ports. This was a great time for byron's to attack and seize ask much stress as they could in sixteen eighty six to ships flying. Under the english flag captured wessels worth six hundred thousand rupees in the red seat these captured ships where from sulu up the main trading port under the mughal in the region of growth and it landed the east india company officials. They're in a great deal of trouble. In august sixteen ninety one english pirates seize the vessel abdul ghafoor one of the most wealthy merchants of sura and very powerful man ghaffar ship was dated at the mouth of the river and contained nine lacks art nine hundred thousand rupees onboard. This was a particularly offensive undertaking which led the governor of cigarette two plays gods outside the british factory. There and an embargo was placed on english traders. The european pirates went after ships of other european nations as well in the same year the british east near companies ship ceasar bound for bombie was chased on the coast of gambia in east africa by five french. Pirate ships by sixteen thousand nine. The factory officials at fort saint george in madras. Were writing that the cease. Where quote bastard. With by ritz and court. Five thirty was attractive simply because it was more lucrative than any other career on the sees many times. The british company saw their employees don't sympathizers which made it even harder for them to crack down on piracy some company men even joined the pirates and cruces looking for plunder and many of them would eventually be arrested. Of course the most famous of these english by roots in the indian ocean was perhaps henry every or his real name may have been henry bridgeman. He was also more popularly known as john every every started out in the royal navy before he joined the motion marine working on ships that sailed to the west indies but by sixteen ninety five every had gone full buyer it and had rounded the cape and was flying in the waters of the western indian ocean. Everyone's very particular not to attack english or dutch ships. Remember the english and the dutch are on the same team at this time. Because king william the third and every even want english dutch captains of other pirates. That may have been waiting around to attack. There is now a hundred and sixty odd. French armed men now at motorola waits for the opportunity of getting any ship. Take care of yourselves. Every left us note in february sixteen ninety. Five as a warning to those merchant captains that were on the way to bambi from the coast of africa european pirates and large settled in the island of madagascar off the east coast of africa in the seventeenth century. So many pirate settlements popped up on this island. That only those who traded with by could approach this region a few pirates fashion themselves as minor kings within the settlements building and setting up church and parliament to and english. Pirate who teamed up with french pirate founded a settlement called liberty in madagasko with slavery was prohibited and a concentrator appointed to make laws when liberty show was destroyed by local tribes however to cough for the americas and lived in rhode island for a while before returning to piracy in the red sea. Madagasko was such an ideal location for pirates because they could easily sale as far as so much. I learned from there as well as to the red sea. The gulf of oman. That is the persian gulf and the western coast of india but back to every six exploits in the indian ocean in a single. You're every captured three english ships of american origin. He burned down town on the somali coast and he captured one of abdul. Ghafoor ships named mood but his single biggest capture was the mughal emperors. The mughal emperors gundy survi- ship. That was armed to the teeth carrying eighty guns and four hundred match logs. It also contain profits from its red sea trade worth fifty three lack rupees to give you some idea of how much that is fifty. Three lack rupees. Which was about five hundred thirty. Four thousand pounds at the time. Could get you a hundred thousand arabian horses or pay for the labor of a skilled tradesmen. For almost six million days in england. It was a lot of money. The guy was so well armed that it did not have a convoy accompanying it every bomb-battered it from the broadside which damaged the mughal ship's mast badly the captain ibrahim khan capitulated without much resistant. Every screw easily boarded the ship and plundered it for a week they may have even molested the crew including the women on board but once all the loot that could be taken was taken. They left the ship to limp back to syrup. Henry every may have been active in the indian ocean only for a mere six months in sixteen ninety five. He said to have sailed to the bahamas where he presented the governor of providence with gold for his and his crew's safety according to johnson's general history of the pirates every return to england at some point where price on his head was advertised in sixteen ninety six. Some of his crew was most definitely found and sentenced to death. Johnson writes that every then fled to ireland where he died in poverty having been cheated by emotion of all his well. Hello this may not have inaccurate since he was never found and the price on his head never claimed so it is very likely that every lived out to live comfortably in an assumed name somewhere in ireland or in the americas leaving the english in india to face the consequences office actions for following every splendor of the ship gundy survi- almost every official of the east india company. In sura and bombay were imprisoned by the mughal for eleven months. They were let go only after the british. The dutch and the french agreed to send out their ships to patrol the seas and captured these pirates while the british were also asked to be very hefty fines. The trouble was every became a folk hero and word of his bounty spread leading many more privateers and pirates to flock to the indian ocean. John delve in his book remarks. That quote every restless spirit was intent on seeking his fortune in this new eldorado and court william kid for example a seaman deputed to private. You're on the coast of the americas sale instant to the indian ocean where he captured the canada merchant ship belonging to or meaning merchants sailing in from bengal to suit up. He then abandoned his own galley the adventure for the kadam in which he then sailed back to boston captain kidd became famous for his attempted by rec- and fateful and when in seventeen or one he was hanged along with six of his crew mostly to set an example for other roots. Kit whisper have not quite a pirate for his mission was initially sanctioned with the seal of the crown he was also not particularly successful considering that he blundered. Only a few wessels compared to someone like every year to and most of what he had in his possession ended up being merchandise nonetheless after his hanging the act of parliament in seventeen o five authorized the crown to dispose kids in a prudent manner and six thousand four hundred. Seventy two pounds of kids gains where donated to the expenses of french. Hospital still standing in england but did not end in the indian ocean even after these measures at the turn of the eighteenth century trade was nearly impossible on india's west coast due to these spirits in the gulf of gabby close to sue rat not one but three pirate ships from new york roamed about capturing ships were four lack rupees adding into these troubles for the east india. Company was the constant. Desertion of the company sailors. Some of whom mutinied or stole company ships to carry on riddick adventures. It was not only the moguls and the sort of merchants who were angered by european pirates in sixteen ninety seven arabs from the musket region in the persian gulf captured london. A ship belonging to a private british merchant did then force the crew of london to fight on their behalf against the portuguese for arab and indian merchants. it was difficult to distinguish between private european merchants and pirates because all these ships sailed under european flags and it was not immediately clear. Who was a privateer and who was fired. The problem of rampant piracy was one that could not be resolved without active policing in the indian ocean and that task obviously fell upon the european trading companies. Who since the advent of the portuguese in the sixteenth century had taken over large portions of oceanic trade including protection under their passports for more than a century raider chips that did not carry such passes but in the seventeenth century companies themselves did not have the means required to police the vastness of the indian ocean and their home governments also could not help for england and france and most of your their by where at war with one another a large-scale crackdown of pirates. However was on the cards when the nine years war often thought of as the first global war ended in europe and in the atlantic and indian sees in sixteen ninety seven. The british royal navy began sending out warships that were called men of war to indian ocean to help the east india company. Save face in asia and carry on their trading enterprise. Along with this in seventy one king william. The third passed a new act that allowed british agents in other parts of the world to undertake trials by forming a court of seven persons under this act which was carried out till seven nineteen by ritz. Could now be tried in faraway places like india or the caribbean without having to get them back physically to england to stand trial. These interventions in early eighteenth century did much to check european piracy in the indian ocean. The europeans were not the only buyer in the indian sees two hundred years before school. The gamma marco polo had written home to europe about the famous malabar by ritz. He wrote and you must know that from this kingdom and malabar and from an other called good gerard dega afford every more than a hundred corsair vessels and crews these fired take with them their wives and children and stay out the whole summer. The methods join fleet of twenty or thirty of these fired vessels together and they formed what they call a sikh. Arden this is. They drop off till there is an interval of five or six miles between ship and ship so that they can cover something like a hundred miles of sea and no motion ship guinness gave them for anyone. Gore says sites do a signal is made by fire or smoke and the whole of them make for this and sees the merchants and blunder them off your they have plundered they let them go saying go along with you and get more gaetan and that may have fought to las. Also this passage is taken from henry. You'll translation of the book of markopoulo but indian pirates as i mentioned in the beginning of this episode with somewhat different from european pirates for one. They were sometimes not by restall at all like the cities of john. Jira who were in the seventeenth century the defacto mughal navy. They were taxing and penalizing ships in the name of the mughal state. There were also other groups that operated in the indian sees that fit the description of biotic adventurers suggests the coolest of gujarat working from their stronghold and soltan at the mouth of the river. The goalies used their little whistles to raid and ransacked ships both indian and european especially in the gulf of can be and the harbor of bombie but they will likely aided in financed by wealthy merchants in sura and other places and a portion of their rated wealth went to these motions. There were also others with by riddick. Tendencies like the molinari's the sung-gun yes of bait waters of diu. In addition to arab pirates from the musket region by rec- is ultimately an issue of taxation and naval bubble in the indian ocean of the sixteenth through eighteenth centuries the study of the rise and fall of piracy in the indian ocean is a study also of the rise of british power in south asia in the next episode. I will talk in detail about a family home. The british categorized as a pirate dynasty namely the marta anglaise of course as it usually is with colonial british depictions of indians. The angry legacy is not a simple matter of virus. The rise and fall of the angry is tried to the history of the murata empire itself whether andres really pirates aware. The admiralty the murata naval fleet where they as national historians claim some of india's first freedom fighters or whether secretly plotting to bring down the for rain and the murata embed itself in part two of the two series on piracy adventurers of the indian coast. We will dive into the lives of carnegie anri the heroic naval commander and his sons who rule the arabian sea for close to fifty years and be devilled. The british the dutch and the portuguese european piracy did not completely end with kin williams. Parliamentary act of seventeen five in seventeen twenty for example. A mazda pirate named george taylor roam the indian sees blundering british portuguese and indian ships alike in seventeen twenty one. His flotilla of eleven ships even sees the weiss roy of go by recy- eventually died out. In the nineteenth century as britain strengthened. Its hold on south asia and africa from the early nineteenth century. Hardly any european pirate has heard off and the indian groups engaged in naval warfare and small skins by receive are almost completely exterminated historian simon in remarks that the suppression of virus in the indian ocean barrels the territorial expansion of the british eastern accompany on the indian subcontinent. The idea of buyers itself. He writes quote reveals a particular standing of political and economical sovereignty that shaped the british imperial project across asia in the early nineteenth century and court ultimately the pirates a threat. Not only to potential profits gained from the indian ocean trade and taxation of that trade for the Eastern company but it was a political hurdle that had to be removed so that commerce and control of maritime space come the backbone of their colonial imperial system in south asia. If you're interested in learning more about piracy in india head over to our website. Www dot masala history dot com where we have show notes including further readings and many images. If you have questions for us please leave us a comment on the website or on our social media pages. We would love to hear from you and if you like this episode. Please don't forget to subscribe to this. Podcast on apple spotify google and wherever else you can find podcast. I guess because we have to Fire ac- on indian ocean coming up in three weeks masala. History podcast is produced by deeply and manami guha the about historians who are deeply interested in talking about all things south asia. Thanks for listening and see you in three weeks with the exploits of carnegie andre.

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Episode 14: Kanhoji Angre

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Episode 14: Kanhoji Angre

"The for june two gala vats return having plundered town angriest country and brought away sixteen prisoners. Nine to june returned are galvao. That's having by mismanagement of the chief officer. Lost about fifty men and destroyed one town of angers entries from the official count of the british east india company attack on gadjovich on the western coast of india. Seventeen sixteen in sixteen sixty one king charles. The second of england married portuguese. Princess catherine of braganza partly despite the spanish monarch england however lucked out because as part of the marriage treaty catherine brought to england a dowry that included the seven islands of bombay. Now by this was the beginning of the british successes in western india. Bondi was important in its early days. Not for its own sake. It was a sleepy little fishing village for the most part but it was important due to its proximity to the great western indian trading port of the time up in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries suffered precisely because of the richest afforded by its location. It is from souda that almost flow to the arabian peninsula and the indian ocean. Well beyond sorta was also the preferred entrepot for pilgrims who went to mecca during the muslim holy month because of its prosperity so it became the focus of unwanted attention from different by radical groups and for the british. This was an extremely difficult situation because even though so that was under the mughal dominion as early as sixteen. Fifteen the british had set up a factory in sudan so that was the primary. British port of trade and bombay was the boat that lent the british merchants in seward. Some security so the pillaging of their ships and general lawlessness arabian sea off. The gujarat and bombay goes became a very difficult economic and political situation because for the british virus was a matter of not just trade losses right to tax. The merchant ships plying on the indian sees was also important to the british interest in developing their colonial imperial system on the indian subcontinent over the eighteenth century. It was britain's superior naval level that finally allow them to beat back other european powers and colonized the subcontinent the attack on merchant ships under british protection. Where therefore an attack. On the emerging bonds between free trade and imperialism in subcontinent the attacked under british on the see was a threat to the british domination of south asia. In the last episode. I talked about european pirates. Who made it impossible for the eastern near company traders to do business on land ansi in south asia buyers in the indian cities where formidable and the large numbers disturbed trade along the western coast and between india and the arabian peninsula in a big way. But it was not just european pirates. Who were doing all this work. In eighteenth century coastal india many different groups were involved in the semi legal an outright unlawful plundering of merchant ships even though the british call them pirates the fleet of cds of geneva for example where more organized and as we shall see through the course of this episode. there were also not really pirates. But there were other. Smaller plundering operations on the coast by groups suggest the malabar who were mixed community of hindus. Muslims christians and jews. Then there were the coal-lease gujurat the sun kanye of bait and the world's do who all carried out by radic operations in their own little zones on the indian coastline for example. The call is focused on the bombay. Gujarat shoreline on the upper south western coast of india north of goya. The mulberries sailed south of gour however these by radical attacks were not systemic. They were rather sporadic and spread out across the indian ghost line. But what happens when it was not one pirate with this motley. Crue casually ransacking but a well-managed an efficient fleet commanded by chris matic leader who led us troops in baffled and we'll cover on land as well of all these groups considered fires of by radical by the british. There was one such group efficiently managed and well led that give british east indian other european trading companies. A run for their money quite literally. They were the hondris in english records and inspired history books. They're called the fears angry. In this episode we shall turn our attention to the so called murata angrier quirot's who wreaked havoc for traders along the western coast of india but especially for the british where the pirates or india's first freedom fighters. This is a question that we are exploring in this episode. This is the masala history. Podcast and i am deeply morally. Join me as i take you on this fund rightful of combat and swat fights as we discuss the history of the seafaring angry family in the last episode i described by rates as living outside the law but we also learned that law in an age before united nations and legally drawn nation. State boundaries is subjective in seventeenth and eighteenth century. india boundaries are almost literally lines drawn sand. They changed every year if not almost every other month. The waxing and waning of indian powers with constant battles on by european trading companies had created such political volatility. The no sooner had king gained territory in one part of the subcontinent that he was forced to rush to another part of his kingdom to secure it from a rival pavel by late seventeenth century the western coast of from all the way to the not was contentious dentistry. The deccan on its of the south. That had nominally controlled portions of the western coast known today as the konkan coast with completely overrun by the mughal territorial expansion into southern india under emperor shahjahan and leader or the. It's completely lost their grip on the konkan coast when the were even more aggressive mughal expansion. Under emperor or sabe in the late seventeenth and early eighteenth century. It is in this complex geopolitical world that the british east india company encounters the angry as they were called the british from the beginning. Think of them. As lawless photon cooled. Mahtab by routes but the angriest we're not pilots in the traditional sense of the world. The anguish may not have upheld the european law free trade but they were by design not meant to considering that their allegiance was knocked to the british eastern company. But do the murata empire in sixteen ninety eight gianluigi on the illustrious sailor and warrior was sufficiently made this said katie. The admiral of the murata navy he was given the title. Fleet of ships and seven forts along the west coast from where he was tasked to carry out murata taxation schemes on the ships flying the arabian sea schemes. That were totally the opposite of the kind of schemes put together by the european trading companies for the taxation of the ships where going directly to the murata emperor and not to any of the european east indian trading companies. The british tried very hard right from the start to brand carnegie angry as an upstart fired as seventy four hungry was being addressed in british communication quote. Rebel independent of the raja shivaji. Shivaji death ghana g. Moved in and out of favor with the reigning murata ruler or his prime minister. The bay shwim base was are the powerful. Prime ministers of the murata empire and it was a heritage reposition. Success of beige. Aided the murata king from the time of shivaji in the seventeenth century but by the mid eighteenth century fish was had gradually become so powerful that they were the de facto rulers of the murata empire until the end of the empire in one thousand. Nine hundred do understand why the british could easily call carnegie andrea and his able men. I wish we need to travel a bit. Into the politics of the murata rulership in the eighteenth century when county angry was made the set kid or admiral of the murata naval feed the murata empire bio was going through a period of transition and instability. After the death of the founder of the empire chatrapati. Shivaji maharaj in sixteen eighty. His son in podgy had ascended. The throne chatrapati sombody caddied on his father's -fensive against the mughal. For which in the ninth year of his reign he was got doctored and killed by mughal emperor hornsey following his death. His half brother raja ram came to the throne assisting roger. I'm abeille was the second wife da by. It was rodham at his capital at sandra. That deputed to command. You're the murata an evil force. So when roger died quite suddenly two years after deputing gene connell g. must have felt the need to stay loyal to rajaram wife barra by who took over the reign of the murata and bio dara by subsequently called. Her young son xiaojie the second as ruler and herself as queen. Regent no ious where things get even more complicated in seventeen. O seven emperor. An sabe died and a bone his dead shah who the young son of slain murata ruler. Podgy who had been taken prisoner by the mughal was released upon shah. Who's return to murata factions. Emerged one in support of shah. Who and the other in support of dara by connor would you belong to the latter faction that chose to maintain the allegiance to dara by so when tara was eventually ousted carnegie appears to have taken the fleet and left dominion of the murata's establishing himself somewhat independently on. What is now the konkan coast. In southwestern india gone angry made the photo of area or vj dude his capital on the konkan coast after he had established himself he also nominally pledged his allegiance to tara by who by that time had installed her son in a rival murat thrown in cooper. This was the beginning of long retracted. Civil war between the murata factions one. Supporting dara by and her son the other supporting shah who the son of slain ruler gene which ended somewhat in the defeat of the tara by faction dr by by the way continue to play an important role in murata politics until her death in seventeen sixty one after thought by was ousted along with a son and shah who returned to the throne of the minerva empire. Show who's new lustrous commander of or sankar. Tom balaji vishwanath. That successfully convinced ghannouchi to switch sides and come back under the umbrella offshot. Who's emperor ship in seventeen. Fourteen after ganapati signed a treaty with shock who and biology which knock he declared shar who as tripathi emperor and was anointed. Once again the admiral of murat honeybee and like in the reign of roger. Ron carnegie sealed after seventeen forty one read sri carnegie angry son of takuji is forever eager at the feet of shah who in court this brief deviation of carnegie's allegiance from the main center of murata bowo is perhaps why the british decided to treat him as an independent rebel pirate. It is clear from carnegie seals however that he considered himself allied and under the service of successive murata rulers so it is safe to say that carnegie angry was not a pirate the british desperately wanted him to be one and considered him so for the express purpose of waging battles against his fleet without having to involve the powerful murata rulers in these affairs one shah who assumed the throne stability returned to the murata empire the death of orange save and his constant warfare in the south had depleted mogul resources so the main enemy of focus of kanji game to be the rich european ships plying on the indian coastline by the seventeen tends donald j had become. Practically unstoppable in the arabian seem as early as seventeen eleven. The directors of the british east india company listened in horror as they were informed that the angry could and did take any vessel from gujarat up to double except the largest of european ships when british governor boone wrote a threatening letter to carnegie in seventeen twenty carnegie replied a tone that one can was laden with duration in response to the letter carnegie wrote a scathing letter to the british that basically insulted them by calling them mere margins. I do not find the motions exempt from this sort. If i'm bishen for this is the way of the wound for god gives nothing immediately from himself but t kes from to give to better. This is right or new. who's able to determine it. Little behoves merchants to say that our government is supported by violence. Insult and piracy's the maharaja. Shivaji made with four kings and founded and established his powell. This was all beginning better by these means does government has proved europe. Your excellency well knows so. Likewise did your predecessors better his gerbil. Or no i would have your excellency consider. It is certain nothing in this world. Is your booth vich. If your excellency does consider the way of this world is by this time gone. Augie had in his charge. Twenty six four and a large number of villages associated with these forts including canady and columba close to the british harbor of bombay. He ruled these lands. And the bordering them from his capital fortress of gilliam about three hundred miles south of bombay his impregnable fortresses lined across the shoreline from venezuela in the south to bombay in the north spanning an area close to four hundred miles gandhi also employed all kinds of people his best commandos on the see where dot sailors he even had in his employ pirates like john planting who had turned servicemen turned out to be indestructible for the british from seventeen fifteen on his death. In seventeen. twenty nine carnegie's fort were attacked a total of six times by the british with absolutely no amount of success. It's dotted with the arrival of the new governor of bombay. John's boone kuwata from the start. The fronted that his company ships were being ransacked by an indian pirate. Moon immediately went to work fortifying. The town of bombay and ordered three battleships to be built in a few months britannia with eighteen guns fame and the revenge each with sixteen guns and victory with twenty four guns. Where all seaworthy. Into years born had built an admirable fleet with nine thousand nine forgets grabs catches go bots and galleys all different kinds of boats and ships altogether. They were capable of carrying two hundred and twenty guns in addition to a bomb whistle and a fire ship. This was all this all these boats. All these guns were expressly to take on the angry except not once. Did poor boone. When a gun battle at sea or land for nearly fifteen years charles wounded his best to get the best of anri boone's first attack on the angry was aimed at a stronghold in bangor. He sent fame britannia and revenge along with about ten gull butts boats that were called galley rats by the english after spending many days. Trying to find a safe landing the british bombarded the fortress but it hardly cost a dent. Eventually to of boone's offices and charge started fighting with each other from sheer exhaustion and the fleet returned to bombay with nothing to show for their efforts. Exactly how much did angry get from. Looting merchant ships that cost boon to get so angry. well just in seventeen. Sixteen ongeri sleet had captured. One east india company ship from near the harbor for private ships valued at thirty thousand serafim obama currency of time and one large east india man named success on its way from souda. The private ships had refused to pay us to the men and that's why they had been captured and when the company sent angry an angry letter. He responded by capturing auto ship from bengal inconsideration. Boone planned another attack this time. On risk capital fortress of galleria. This is how an english official regarded the spanish in. We've seeded down the coast for jerry which is not above twelve hours south from bombay. Where we we've all. Our navy soon arrived and rumbled belly into the harbour. Captain bourdieu commodore arranged line from the easternmost part of the fortifications to the outer part of the harbour. Keeping all our small galleys. Galley waltz on the off side under shelter but they had strong falsifications on both sides so that we left our strongest ships in the harbor to make a breach in the wolves in order to storm the castle. The rocks were very high. And so slippery that one could hardly stand without a staff and consequently not place convenient to draw up in any posture of defense positions weapons ready. We endeavoured to get the fire ship in could not for on the east parts of the fourth. They had a cove or creek when they had laid up a great part of the fleet and got a strong boom across the same so that we could not annoy them any otherwise than by phone bones and co horns very thick into the garrison which we did for a considerable time wherein hopes after the first and second day siege that we should have drove that strong castle but we soon found that. The place was impregnable for us. We keep praying shells as fast as we could him regular time cooling our chambers before we loaded again after we have beat over tool free houses in the castle. The shells fell on the rocks in the inside. The castle and their weight enforce falling would break them without so much as they're blowing up as to storming the walls they were so higher. Scaling ladders would not reach the top of them from the end of the siege. In british officer gideon's diary. It becomes really clear that the british had no clue that they were being trapped. They did not know the land and angry new this so he drew them into the only real approach to the fort by firing only a few shots just to make the british believe. The murata's were putting up a fight off to the second day. We landed all our forces taken the opportunity of the time. We got them. All on shore marched up the country without molestation early now and then the cost would let fly shuttle to which did a small damage on renew that the british were going to get stuck in the swamp and that the british would be sitting. Ducks wilander retreat. We attempted to march the army down to the shipping and to set them on fire but when we came within a mile of the place the lamb was swampy and so very muddy by the spring tides flowing. Over that we could not proceed on retreat. They goal does very much by far from the castle. We being obliged to come near the cost of walls to take our forces off again here. The gallant captain. Gordon was slightly wounded. Ken i question whether they're hundred men in the car. So during the time of the siege we drew our forces off on the eighteenth of april and went up to bombay to repair frigates and take care of our wounded men of whom we had a considerable number. This british description of the failed attack makes it clear. That angry was not fired. He was a naval leader for sure but he definitely had training to defend land settlements. We must admire governor boonstra nasty here. His army had been repulsed twice in a sharp be viewed by carnegie army. But no sooner had the war forgets full of wounded soldiers from ghia landed in bombie. That boone was preparing for us next attack this time. He chose close to home at angry stronghold at canary on chesty or south island just north of bombay. Gonorrhea was a recent acquisition by angry. He added in seventeen. Ten confiscated the island from the cities of jenjira and fortified eight. It must have been quite way fortified or boon was notice of another field attack for the fleet that made its way up. The bombay harbour to canary was perhaps the largest fleet of warships used on the indian coast up till that point aside from four math eastern near men warships the to garage are grabs as the english. Call one forget one galley one catch to bomb ketches and forty eight gulbert took them about six days to assemble an anger. All these vessels in a suitable formation the shore force and the force of bombardment seemed to have helped somewhat british officers and soldiers were able to land even though they were constantly being fired upon somehow to captains managed to get their troops up to the gateway of the fortress and began to work dismantling it. Now this is where things started going south once again. The courage of one of the captains finally failed and he made a run for it and with him his troop of british soldiers. Captain walked up to the gate and fired his district close range which was a mistake because the bullet rebounded of the gate and struck right on us knows and he could do nothing but retire hurt and he to ordered a retreat once again bone was left with nothing to show for all the effort that he had put into his planning one reason. Boone was so tremendously unsuccessful. Was because the eastern your company and its officers in south asia where really traders and not army men. The landed elite of the british society mostly went to the americas in the speedier looking for more fortune the crown only too happy to confer them with estates islands in the western east. Those that came india. Where mostly working class the seventeenth eighteenth century british company ovens where men from humble backgrounds in india. There was no hope at this time to receive. Land options and prophets by trade were largely monopolized to the benefit of the shareholders. Back in london. The company pay was also not much to write home about the married ones received lodging allowance. The unmarried ones were put up by the company and their living conditions. Where also not that great. The retention rate for the company's employees in the early part of the eighteenth century was not high at all and it is no surprise that they could be bought or would switch sides if they found that to be a more lucrative option the british soldiers in the words of observing badly armed bagley fed and badly paid donald j became even more emboldened after the third failed attack canary. He's started raiding ships in british portuguese. What ever came his way that were not carrying docks or the licenses issued by the angry on behalf of the moroccan rulers on retreat list. So close to the bombay harbour that morris an eastern india mentioned which has taken part in the canary attack had to try three times before it could leave the port for its return journey to england on pleaded with the directors to send him a guardship which they did accept the officers on board. The sixty gun warships saint george gotta bambi and then accidentally wrecked ship by bringing it to close to shore but none of this. None of the stopped boone. From trying again and again and again the next three attacks at galleria diogo and colomba born planned also ended in failure captains aboard the british government junk got into fistfights ran away or were bought by the agrees. The attack on kalabo was the final piece of straw for charles boon. This was joined attack on carnegie andrea. The british would attack from c. They planned and the portuguese would attack on greece. Property from land up on this success kalabo would be given to portugal and england would take on risk capital for aguirre well. It was a heavy defeat for the europeans. It was so humiliating. That the commander on the british side a shot in pern man. Not where like even by his peers. Thomas mathews not only got tied fierce with the lands of lowly murata horsemen but upon the defeat got so incensed that he trust gained down the of the portuguese general. Following this charles. Boone returned to england in seventeen twenty one without even one win against the angry but he tried. He tried very art. What made carnegie andre so indestructible. I hope by now. It's obvious that he had the backing of the powerful murata army on land and many of the attacks he repulsed was because of the support of the land forces as well he must have been a quiet occurs leader to considering he even got hardened european pirates john planting to work for him and stay in a service for years on end he was most definitely a fierce warrior but he seems to also have been an exceptionally able administrator and strategize while we don't know a lot about his lineage. His father was likely a freed african slaves who married and settled near the cali region on the western coast of indium as a lifelong navigator who started working on ships as a young boy likely with his father who was also a salem college. New the arabian sea like the back of his hand. He was trained by pirates. But also by sailors. What carnegie realized from his training is that indian sailors relied on more local types of sailing vessels that could navigate closer to the coastline as well as the narrow mouths of rivers that allow them to say for the inland of needed for production. He was aware that these different types of vessels where actually more useful than the larger oceanic sailing vessels and battleships that europeans typically used on the indian coastline for example carnegie made use of what is called. The grabs are grabs in english. A two or three mastered vote that drew very little water and was designed to give speed in the light. Winds that usually prevailed on india's west coast. Now if you really wanna see what. A grab looks like head over to our website or instagram account at masala history. Podcast where you can find a painting of the attack of murata's on a british wessel in eighteen twelve in the painting. The board leading the attack on the british wessel is the grub and in the foreground of this big vessel smaller vessel with two latino. Sales are triangular sales that is called. The gulf bots are the galley vats in english. These vessels were made for shallow seas and largely plied along the coastline but there were also made light so that they could be faster and therefore better equipped to attack and then flee the gobert also carried additional crew for support and to carry away plunder. Gone oji also used the techniques frequently used by indian pirates that were quite simple but inventive and effective for example he would move two or three grabs close to the target vessel. When they sufficiently clues. Carnegie's fleet would attack with swabs from the prow of their vessels the also casting pods which were earthen vessels filled with gunpowder and sulfur from the top of their mass to the deck of the ship being attacked so it created these fumes that would force the crew to flee the main deck making it easier for rookies fleet to board the attacked wesel. Carnegie's navy also used cannonade and smart shot sling stones and long lances to attack the enemy vessel. It was a very effective strategy. And if it did not work the smaller garage and gulbert made it easy for the crew to get away quickly and hide in the shallow bays grows and reverse the dotted. The indian coastline line where the big ships could not reach. Part of the problem for poor governor boone. During his time in bombie was also that the company was not getting any military support from the royal navy and this was of course because england at the time was dealing with multiple crises closer home. Not only were they besieged. By the unrest that culminated in the first jacobite uprising. In scotland in seventeen fifteen england allied with spain and other european pablo's where the time fighting france in the war of the spanish succession which lasted from seventeen or one to seventeen fourteen but when it finally ended with the treaty of you tracked in seventeen fifteen inland once once again free to send its naval force to the indian ocean so in the seventeen twenty s. Soon after four boone's return to england. Things started to look for the british in india in seventeen. Twenty three a sixteen gun. Angry vessel was taken by the british after battle which killed the dutch commander of the angry vessel the same week so three more vessels captured the director's also now since three galleys from london with a crew that was trained for combat making it even more difficult for the murata admiral and his naval crew to get any success on the indian sees these military strategic advances of the british eastern company all but eliminated most of the smaller by riddick groups from the arabian sea by the seventeen thirty s carnegie however remained undefeated even though his attacks became less successful when he died in seventeen thousand nine year knock lost any of the folks that were under his command. He had successfully helped. Murata's an ex- a number of smaller chiefdoms along the konkan coast after his debt. Some sons carried on the andre rule and evil warfare on the western coast of india but internecine rivalry weaken the angry over the next couple of decades until the fourth were split up amongst to rivaling angry. Brothers the british beated one brother against the other and eventually got the best of both factions The last angry stronghold was alaba bombie which was a next to british india in eighteen forty three masala history is produced by the team and go hosted by the molly and manama home. Many thanks do our voice actors one who shall remain nameless. And the other drums andren who voicing conway on the transcript for this episode along with related images. Readings and other inflammation is the wheel of on our website. Www dot masala history dot com a special note. Before i say goodbye. We are introducing a new format in the next episode to include more historians to bring their research to us. If you want exciting snippets from their upcoming episodes. 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