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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:49 min | Last week

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"We're 97 days, two hours, 47 minutes, and 51 seconds away from the breeders cup coming back to the bluegrass and keenland, November 4th and 5th, Kona gold. Well, he won't be there, but he is a special horse and we get to look back on him now with Karen headley, who is the daughter of the late Bruce headley, who trained Kona gold. He won the race, the Bing Crosby, four times did Bruce Hadley. We'll talk about those races and cona gold here with Karen. Karen, good morning. I appreciate the visit. Hello, how are you? Doing extremely well. And you know, you get a chance to hear Kona gold and that call from Trevor denman and it kind of gets you pumped up, doesn't it? Well, it brings back a lot of memories. I watch it every so often, especially his breeders cup. Because my dad had a, that was his third goal, so to watch him finally win it was beyond great. Yeah, take me back to that day. What do you remember about that moment he finally broke through and crossed the finish line in the breeder's cup sprint? Well, I was sitting in my underwear on the couch and I watched my parents. They were so happy. I had to stay back and run his farm, but to see him finally do it. And it was unbelievable because my dad hit that cone of gold as Bruce Hadley and Bruce hudley as cona gold. He joined that horse at the end of the sale for 30,000 and he galloped out more all the way up to the breeders cup on three occasions. It wasn't he did everything except work in which was Alex felice. And he fought hard for Alex Solis to ride because Alex had never won a breeders cup. So the partners wanted to take him off and my father fought hard for Alex to stay on. And that was Alex Luis's first three years cup. It future Hall of Famer, Alex Elise. Yeah. Yeah, who knew? Just unbelievable. Because they had such a great relationship. You know, because he had worked so long with Chris mccarran. He always, you know, he came from the old school where each barn had their own jockey and it was Chris mccarran Alex lease and since then we've been, you know, looking. For the next future one. Yeah, but put in perspective for me. That accomplishment of competing in 5 consecutive breeders cup sprints. I say it as a fan and I say, wow, that's incredible. But for you, having lived it, being a horse trainer, how remarkable is that feat? Well, what he did is even with a, with a breeders cup horse or any kind of force, he would always give them time. So he knew he was a special horse, the first time he went three quarters out of the gate in 11, and he came back with a chip in the top of his knee. So he turned him out and that's why he brought him back and forth. But he would map out the whole year. And point to each race that he wanted to win. So he would have the breeders cup being the last, but he would have been turned out, freshened, and so yeah, he just did, he did everything the same. Each year, and he would write down how fast he wanted the horse to go. He'd make these little sheets of paper and he'd write down all the way up to each race. He had it all planned out. With every horse, actually. Yeah. You know, your dad, it's not just about Kona gold for him when it comes to the Bing Crosby. Of course, Kona gold won it twice and in 2002 1001. But your dad is tied at the top of the list for most wins in the race with Bob Baffert. He had four victories throughout his career in the Bing Crosby, his first came before Kona gold that was in 1998 with son of a pistol. What do you remember about that day? Well, I used to gallop him. I rode all of his Bing Crosby horses except for street loss. Son of a pistol was another great find that he bought for cheap. He was parrot mouthed, a very nice because my dad broke all of his horses too. So they were nice and easy to ride. And he was another great horse. Actually, son of a pistol was the only horse to beat Kona gold in the year 2000. So he was a good boy. I didn't realize that. No kidding. Yeah. Well, Garrett Tomas wrote him. Okay. He was one, two, and a steak. So he lives, he was good, but his best training job, I think, was with street boss because the horse had two hard races at Hollywood park and he just set the track record and he was pointing for the Bing Crosby with street loss. And he worked in two nice three eighths because you just kept him kept him nice and then he won the Bing Crosby. After two really hard races. Wow. And my dad, he never, I mean, they didn't train on Lasix, nothing. No vitamin shots, nothing. So all those wins were real. Wow, yeah, pretty special. Talking with Karen headley, the daughter of late trainer Bruce headley, who trained the great Kona gold, his victory in the 2000 breeders cup sprint saw him be voted eclipse champion sprinter of that year after that victory and deservedly so he was second in the breeders cup sprint in 1999 as well and a very special horse, but your dad had so many other horses that I know touched you and touched your family and one that stands out to me is bertrando. I can remember bertrando. I think he was second in the breeders cup juvenile in 91. Yes. Well, when I think of Richmond, I think of complete chaos. Because there would never be a bertrange because there was this man named Eddie nahem. And Eddie mayhem, I synonymous with shyster. So he wanted to he wanted to get a mayor. So my dad found this mayor to claim and then my dad saw a Skywalker wins the breeders cup. So they bred that horse and then out came this freak. And I remember working with him his first quarter and then working his second quarter and then he was off. Because my dad liked to go through their conditions. And his second his second race was a del mar futurity when it was two times around two turns. And that was just crazy chaos. It should be made into a movie, actually.

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:48 min | Last week

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The toughest horse in front. That was the toughest one. But nah, I was, you know, I was that generation of riders. I don't think in the history of horse racing, you'd have better riders ever. I mean, they, you know, we were friends, but at the same time, when we got on that race track, friendship went out and raced riding went on. And every one of them, they brought their a game at you. So if you didn't have your a game, then you un trouble and you needed a horse up on our knee probably you too. It's takes a good jockey, but it takes a good horse too. I never heard it called jockey race and I've always heard it called horse race and so I give the credit to the animals. I get the credit to the trainers to the breeders. And as far as the race rider, that was what for some reason was born to do and I loved it. Nobody could love it more me at all times. Yeah. And you were one of the best ever do it herb and should be in the Hall of Fame, my friend. We need to start that again. You should be in the Hall of Fame. Well, I've been nominated. I wish they'd go ahead and cook me in with my friends. I'm getting a little white haired here. Let me tell you something. You're pretty good on radio too. We had the chance to sit in together and do some broadcast a couple of years ago and I loved working with you and really enjoy every time we get a chance to catch up. So we'll do it again soon, my friend. Thank you so much, brother, and I appreciate it. And I hope you end up having a stellar Saratoga meet up there. All right, buddy, we appreciate it. We'll talk soon. All the best. All right, that's herb Macaulay here on HR. I mean, first of all, I mean, what a great guy to talk with, right? He loves the game. He loves the sport. And that's the one thing that always amazes me. And again, you're going to hear from Chris mccarran and John Velasquez next week. They are scheduled to join me on this show. Next Saturday morning in don't forget we'll have new SiriusXM channels for this program starting next week. Actually for all of our shows here on HR N serious two 16 XM two O four. Sirius two 16 XM two O four. You'll hear Chris, you'll hear Johnny V but the one thing that gets me when I talk to any of these jockeys is the way they remember the details. So vividly, would think, I mean, for me, trying to remember what I had for breakfast is always difficult. But these guys remember everything. And these girls remember everything. It's incredible. So my thanks to Herbie for going down memory lane with me there. That was a lot of fun. Coming up in just a few minutes, I'll be joined by Karen headley to go down the road to the breeders cup. She'll take a look back on 5 time breeders cup sprint participant in two time Bing Crosby winner Kona gold trained by her late father, Bruce Hadley. That's coming up momentarily, but time now for your KT, Kentucky bread spotlight. And you know, Kentucky breads, they are your best chance at success. Kentucky breads have won, get this. 82% of all grade one races thus far this year and 73% of all graded races. 19 of the top 20 earners in 2022 were bred in the bluegrass, and are taught by Kentucky Derby winner rich strike with earnings of more than 1.9 $1 million on the year. In another sign of strength, Kentucky is one of just a few states that showed an increase in the number of mayors bred year over year.

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:55 min | Last week

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"We'll see if he can find a way to get it done in that race. You know, as we await safi, I told you I was going to wait and tell this story when herb Macaulay was with me at 9 20 eastern. And by the way, her Macaulay not a member of the Hall of Fame, which is a little bit shocking. As same thing with cone of gold. Conan gold and I'll be honest, I have a vote. For the Hall of Fame every year, I get to vote, and I'm pretty generous. With my selections, you can vote for as many of the nominees as you would like. You can vote for all of them if you think they're all deserving of being in the Hall of Fame. But in order to get in, they have to get 50% of the vote. Now I think it might be 51. But whatever it is, it's like 50, 51%. They have to get the majority of the vote. Combined from all the voters. And I did not vote for cona gold. I did not vote for Conan goal. I was really on the fence. With him. But you know, when you look at his resume, you can't fault anybody who votes for him. I mean, he's a horse that showed up pretty much every single time that they let him over. He competed, Kona gold, competed in the breeders cup sprint. 5 consecutive years. Think about that. You want to talk about a tough horse. Just to stay to stay at the, and what a great training job by Bruce hedley, too. Just to stay at the top of your game for 5 consecutive years to run in the breeders cup sprint. And of course he finally broke through and won that race in 2000. That's when he was voted eclipse award champion sprinter. But he ran in that race, 1998, he was third. He was second in the 99 renewal, he won it in 2000. And then he was a participant in 2001, 2002. And he's one of just a few horses ever to win multiple runnings of the Bing Crosby. Kona gold got to the winner circle 14 times in his 30 race career. He earned more than 2.2 million, just shy of 2.3, actually. But when I looked at the other horses this year, beholder tepin, they will be officially inducted on Friday in Saratoga Springs, and yeah, like I said, you can vote for all of them. Kona gold is one that if somebody voted for Kona gold in the Hall of Fame, you wouldn't fault them for it. Not at all. And I'm looking forward to talking with Karen headley coming up to go down the road to the breeders cup. At 9 40 eastern 6 40 Pacific, she'll be up early on the West Coast, but she's a horse trainer. She's used to doing that. She'll be up early to join me and look back on her dad's trainee cone a goal. Then as I mentioned, her dad won that big Crosby on four different occasions. That's actually, believe it or not, you know, we think about records on the West Coast, in greatest stakes races. And we think about Bob Baffert, because he seems to hold the record number of wins in almost every great stakes. On the West Coast, a lot of races on the east coast too, I guess. But pretty much every race on the West Coast, you look up and you see bob effort. He doesn't own that title. Alone, in the Bing Crosby, he shares the most wins in that race. With Bruce hedley. And it wasn't just about cona gold for Bruce hedley. Cona gold did it in 2000 and 2001, but before that, he had son of a pistol who won it in 1998, and then he came back again in 2008, with street boss. Now darley stallion, street boss, to win that race. So it's Bruce hedley and Bob Baffert tied at the top. For most wins, and if you're wondering about the jockey who has won that race the most times, well, that's jockey Flavia and Pratt. He has 6 wins in the race, 2015, 16, 17, 18, 20 and 21. Yeah, pretty cool stuff. And I'm really looking forward to going down the road to the breeder's cup. So I got off here. I told you I was going to tell you my story. That was going to say for her Macaulay. In regards to the 1992, Jim dandy and Travers. I don't recall if I was at the Jim dandy that year. But I know for a fact that I was at the Travers in 1992. And I remember getting there early I remember being there with our cooler, we would bring the cooler on Travers day, the doors open and as soon as the doors open, we call it the running of the bulls is how I've described it. Everybody goes running for a picnic table, trying to get their spot reserved. And get in there as fast as you can, and at that time, if you wanted to seat in the grandstand, you could stand just inside just inside the entrance area. And there would be people selling tickets to the grandstand in the Clubhouse areas. And you would go up to them and ask them how much they wanted. And they would be holding up to four tickets, whatever it is. I don't know if they do that. I don't think you can do that anymore there. But that

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:33 min | 3 months ago

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"He might have tried to mount the exercise. The outriders pony. I mean, it would have been a bad situation. He did the right thing and he should be applauded for everything he did in that situation, not vilified. Yep. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Absolutely. All right, question number four, before we get to our winner of the week and claiming foul, the Hall of Fame announced the class of 2020 twos this past week. 11 finalists appeared on the ballot in the contemporary category only two, tepin and beholder received the required 50% of the votes necessary to get in. That means that blind luck, Harvard de grace, Kona gold, rags to riches, Corey nakatani, Christophe Clement, Graham motion, dug O'Neill and John sheriff's, did not receive enough votes to get into the Hall of Fame this year. Which of those that did not get in are the biggest snubs. Dale, why don't you take it first? I would probably say Doug on Neil. I mean, I don't know how that system works very, really, but for all those guys to be in. I mean, there were so many nominators, these categories, I guess it's hard to get 50%, but I think Doug would probably be the biggest two Kentucky derbies and all the agencies. I thought he was essential. Tim? Yeah, you know, I vote for this. There's a 161 people that vote. And you can vote for as many as you want. And I don't know if I agree with that, but that's how they do it. My snub probably won't be one of the more popular choices, but I've always thought that rags to riches should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, the tractors will say she only raised 7 times. She won 5 of them. Including that historic Belmont when she beat two time horses a year curling. I mean, she did in the short time an awful lot winning, you know, grade one races four of them, I believe, is in her career. And beaten two time ports of the year curl in that Belmont, I don't think you should penalize horse because she got hurt at the end of her career, but what she did in a short time to me was certainly Hall of Fame stuff. I would put rags to riches in there. And I still vote for her. And you know, Kona gold, who it doesn't get respect for the outstanding career he had as a sprinter. You know, 14 wins in 30 starts. I think he's got to get in at some point. They all deserve to get in, put them all in. Yeah, Dale, you said that before. We talked about this. I know, I know which side of the fence you fall on, but do you think eventually we do see Doug O'Neill Graham motion increased off Clement with a plaque and Saratoga? Yes. I do, too. Yeah. John sheriffs? Yes. Yep. Yeah. Get them all. Tim, I'm with you on rags to riches. I don't know how she didn't get in this year. I voted for her too. I voted for Doug. I thought both of those individuals were very worthy of getting into the Hall of Fame and just didn't happen this year. Maybe next year, we'll find out. All right, one final segment, about three minutes left in the show. Winner of the week, claiming foul. We know how this one works, guys. So Timmy, why don't you kick it off? Winner of the week, claiming foul, what do you got? Well, I think.

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

07:01 min | 3 months ago

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"His way through between horses there. Act this world, honest lady coming out of the outside beneath sunshine is coming toward the rail and it is caught on trying to cut it out another for long. That's called a gold surges and honest lady in elaborate closing. It's come to go in front and corner go hands won it by a diminishing half a 9th as the belly on its lady charges up to be second, but on sunshine was third and the time a new breeders cup a new Churchill downs track record a sensational one O 7 and three. Ah, the unmistakable voice of Tom Dirk in the show is always better when we can get Tom durkin in there one way or the other. That was his call of the 2000 breeders cup sprint, one impressively by Kona gold. You heard it there as he set a track record at Churchill downs in doing so. Welcome back to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira betts Bobby Newman Dave Friedman taking you around North America for a dozen big stakes. This weekend and speaking of Kona gold, one of four graded stakes on the Saturday card at San Anita is the grade three Kona gold. $100,000 on the line for the three year olds and up, they're going to sprint 6 and a half furlongs on the main track. Unfortunately, we're down to a field of four in the race that were 5 that entered day one already scratched early. So we're down to a Quartet of tigray des Lugo to strike that brickyard ride and miles ahead. Boy on paper, it kind of looks like brickyard rides, just going to get out in front of this field and keep going. Who can catch him? Yeah, I agree with that. Brickyard ride is either to me the top option or the second option. I think miles ahead is pretty talented as well. And is in pretty good form or at least was late last year early this year. And if you gave me a reason to bet, miles ahead coming off three consecutive victories, 11 out of 21 in his career, I would take it. If he gave me two to one or 5 to two, but there are only four horses and if brickyard ride who is 6 to 5 on the morning line is anything close to even money and miles ahead is 7 to 5 8 to 5 something like that. I just don't see the value. Brickyard ride is one three straight 8 of 11 at Santa Anita three of 5 on the turf, which means the dirt mark is better than 50 58 of 15 on dirt three for three this year has been facing good horses. Now the last three have been against state bred competition, but it just seems to me like you said, brickyard ride is going to be on the front, probably uncontested, and at that point, maybe long gone. If he gave me two to one, I'd take miles ahead, but brickyard ride is my pack. I think you might get two to one on miles ahead because I think brickyard ride's going to be closer to three to 5 in this race. Boy, this is a strange horse for a horse that wins as often as he does. He used to be a win or nothing type. I mean, he would either run these monster numbers or he would just fade into oblivion. And it looks like he's kind of eliminated that second option. It's not fading into oblivion and now his last three efforts, a wire to wire, win, sprinting at San Jose, a wire to wire win routing, which I'm sure there were people who thought they'd never see that. And a wire to wire win sprinting on the turf at San Anita. What a nice horse to own, that you can basically find any one of these options. And you know that he's going to run well. I'm not going to try to beat him. I respect tigray, this Lugo, I respect miles ahead. I really don't think they're that far behind him speed figure wise, but pay scenario why is there definitely behind him? And if brickyard ride wants to play, he's going to beat this field. He's going to be a short price. Not going to bed him at three to 5, but I think he's going to win. Dave and I both like him in the grade three Kona gold. 6th race, by the way, that was the fourth race tomorrow at San Anita. The 6th race on the San Anita card is the $200,000 grade two Californian. This is a race that forever was run over at Hollywood park. It's now run at San Anita four year olds and up going a mile and an 8th on the main track just a field of 5 in this race and we're going to have another big favorite here, Dave. Number three express train riding a three race win streak, including the big cap in his most recent start. Right, and if you were to eliminate express train, if express train were scratched in this spot and you were down to four, who would you like? Because my guess is that stiletto boy just has a pretty significant class edge on everyone else. And still little boy ran against express train last time out. And yeah, maybe I still got a boy didn't have the best trip or didn't run his race. But he was between two to one and 5 to two and express train ran him off the track by a margin of almost double digit lengths. So you get 5 to two on stiletto boy four to 5 on express train. It's just not enough for me. This race needs four more horses to create some bedding value express train looks like the best off of three consecutive wins, including a grade one score and, you know, a lot can happen, it certainly no mortal lock, but express train looks best to me. He's a really good horse. I don't think he's a great horse. I think he's a really good horse and he's running in Southern California where let's face it. They don't have an abundance of fantastic handicap older handicap types over the last several years. He definitely looks like the one to beat in the spot. That being said, I think number four shaz is the way to go in this spot. I think he might be able to get the lead. I think there's more room for improvement with him because he's only had three career starts than anyone else. He's a Bob Baffert horse that's now technically trained by Sean McCarthy, although all of baffert's assistants and people who are working for him are basically there. Sean McCarthy is taken over the training duties, and I guess technically hired all of these people. So that's why Sean McCarthy is winning at about a 22% clip. This meet at Santa Anita. I like the upside with shaz and even though his speed figures don't rival those of express train. I don't think he's that far behind. And if he's in front at the top of the stretch, I think you'll be dangerous. So shaz for me mild upset in the grade two Californian race 6 tomorrow at San Anita. Going to jump all the way ahead to race ten on the San Anita card for the $200,000 grade two Santa margarita. Phillies and mayors going a mile and an 8th on the main track. Here's your bigger field, Dave, a field of 9 going to post..

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:21 min | 6 months ago

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"I think she's best routing on the turf. That's why I put her on top. I don't love the pick, but I trust the pick. So for me, Warren showtime for Dave burgoo alley in the megahertz race 7 tomorrow at San Anita. 8th race on the card is the $200,000 grade three palace Verde use for four year olds and up sprinting 6 furlongs. And we've got a field of 6 here, Dave. And another race where Bob Baffert is going to have a major say in what happens. He's got two of the 6 runners, and there he is. For the first time in a long time, the $3.65 million son of curlin Cezanne, the most hyped horse for seemingly two, three years now who never actually runs Cezanne ran three times in 2020 and you remember very late getting going debuted in June one at two to 5, went off one to 9 and won an optional claiming race and then was off until August and ran a lousy fourth against thousand words and honor AP. Then was offer another 6 months or so ran an April beat three in the grade three Kona gold and now comes back having not run since April 18th. The figs are good, the $3.65 million is gaudy, son of curly novelist is good. But in the last three races, we're talking about facing a total of ten other competitors. I won't bet on this horse. I don't bet on this source. He's won three times. He's always hammered at the window. I think he's more hype than substance. And I appreciate the fact that he's going to get that really, really strongly. I'll go to the other baffert horse. I think essential wager might be better. They too have been working together. Again, if you want to believe the cocker report, essential wager supposed to be out working, Cezanne. It's a huge step up. Wanna maiden race what an optional claimer and now facing grade three competition. But I think essential wager will get the lead and I'm not so sure anyone's gonna track them down. Okay, I'm gonna go the other way. I think Cezanne is better than essential wager. I think his last race in the Kona gold albeit against a short field would destroy this much in this palace. I don't know if we're going to get that again. That was April of last year and he hasn't run since. But flavian Pratt, at least thinks that he's the one of the two to pick because he's the regular writer for both of these baffler trainees and he ends up on Cezanne. So I'm sticking with Pratt. I'm sticking with the expense of one in saison. Not that essential wager wasn't expensive, but he was $300,000 at purchase whereas Cezanne once again $3.65 million at purchase. Dave going with essential wager. I like Cezanne, the baffert's to duel it out in the grade three palace verdes this rather tomorrow at Santa Anita race number 8 at the great race place. It's going to take our final time out when we come back. We're going to look at some Sunday action from New York, San Anita and Sam Houston. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by nyra betts on.

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

07:23 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"They if either one of those guys run their good races than than they're definitely going to be the can you know contentious and then the The old tried and trues the mind control the frenzy fires. Those are those are very good horses as well and you know in a in a race like this. There's so many decent good horses classy horses that whoever whoever gets things you know in their favor has a has a definite edge There's i was looking through the during the card. You know this field is is top to bottom some of some of the nicest horses in the division. And you if you take this race and the the race out at I think the pat o'brien out at delmar. You know this is a preview. This is everybody's here they're all president kaunda for you look at both of those races. And you're gonna see your top choices for the breeder's cup sprint so If you wanna see what scenarios workout better for who than for a handicapper if you've not gleaned to these races than you're missing out on the some information you'll need the first saturday november. Yeah you're all Whitmore's rival ceesay rocket. Going to the post is likely the favorite in that pat. O'brien later today at del mar That that's he's got that showdown with flagstaff out there. So as you said this is this is a very very deep division It's a very difficult division to compete in. And now today you even have to compete with lexa tony allen. Who is the horse that upset the applecart against you in the vanderbilt last amount so so many times you know. Yeah that's the thing to seven furlongs with anybody handicap in this seven. Furlongs is not fixed. And it's it's so far away from six belongs that everybody thinks it's just a little bit further. No it actually sets up completely different and sometimes you'll have horses that preferred that distance. We don't see it very often So you get a horse. You know like like him that that I mean he's he's won. Two of big races have been at seven furlongs. And then you've got you've got mine control. Who if there is a specialist. It's him he's won five races at seven eight. You know some a lot of horses in here hasn't hasn't run the distance five times. Yep he's got five wins. Almost a million dollars. I today's distance so you count in the specialist distance of seven months. You come up with a really unique gambling opportunity if you feel strongly about one of these. It's a great point and conversely whitmore more has not excelled at the seven furlong distance. He has six starts a first second third as you. well know. Why is it so difficult for him to get over the hump in these seven. Furlong races pays me everything. But i gotta correct you on one thing. Yeah we we won this race that we're running him today and be city of light at seven eight so that one win was in the forego and it was against city light. He come back to win his next two outs which is based cut mile. And i'm in the big fancy rates down in miami so what's that called the pegasus or something. He has done well at this distance. But it all depends on what kind of pace goes and those big long striding horses that like to be on the front end have a little bit of advantage if they get the right fractions over a horse like ours that likes to sit in the pocket and then burst down the stretch. You can't catch them if they were able to do. The i five h really easy. You know one thing's for sure whitmore doesn't need to take his track with them. He shows up he runs. Where ever he goes in he would do the same. We know he'll do the same at del. Mar if all things being equal and he makes it out there in november heavy heavy given any thought ronnie or is it too early to think about what the next steps might be after. Today's forego. no. I mean you know. People are probably sick of me saying that in the barn and and you know whoever asked. I always say we wake up tomorrow. We go to the barn and we asked but more what he wants to do and You know from that point on we We make our decision from there. I have tentative plans. I have what i like to run in the phoenix. Yes would Would we like to go to the raiders cup. That's both of those rights are on our radar but if it means i can have a better shot of winning the the sprint and avoiding the phoenix than than we gotta do whatever and if it means we don't run it any of them and we we find something else then. That's that's what we have to do. But we we schedule working backwards from the breeders cup and the recipe of going to the to. The phoenix has always worked out well for us. You know i just pulled up. The chart of his forego in in two thousand eighteen you mentioned city of light who was second ceesay rocket was fourth in that race. Occ rocket was still running at a high level or was beginning to run at a high level back. Then and he's here he is again I mentioned running in the pat o'brien. He's a horse that continues to be hickory. Just like whitmore. The sprint is it. Division is a fun division. I know it's not the marquee that everybody wants to talk. Three year olds and in our country and I don't blame them. I'm excited to see the travers and You know and then we get hung up on the distance races but the fact of the matter is more sprint races around every year than then route races. And there's more competition these You get a you get a good group that battle each other and it's pretty fun it's a it's a pretty fun deal to to have some of these guys they around and and you know you look at friendly fire mind control ceesay rocket and then back in the day kona gold and and really h. And all those guys were sticking around and running and it gives it gives the fans and the gambler a chance to become familiar and to game rooting interest in and for me. It's like the hundred yard dash in the olympics. I mean you know. I don't care how excited you are to watch the mile or how excited you are to watch the marathon hurdles or whatever everybody wants to see. The hundred yard dash olympics. And that's what the sprints are. Yeah no doubt about it remote quite with me here on the horse racing radio network ronnie. I'll let you go. I know it's a busy day. Always appreciate the visit and a little bit of time. Go get it done with more today. We'll be cheering and have fun. My friend thank you very much. We'll try our best..

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:55 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Liked it. It's now a straight up and down. Vote on who gets in. But you know i. There's a disconnect somewhere where you know less than half the people who voted this year. Thought for instance coming a gold was worthy the hall of fame. Corey nakatani and i just don't i. I don't know what you those That worser that jockey would have to do or you know what you'd wanna see more to think that they belong It's it's it's it's i i don't get it to. You'd have to have somebody on there. Who doesn't think like i do on that. Get the explanation. Cause and i'd love to hear it but i'm baffled by it participation in five years cups I the the obvious The schedule if for people that were looking for a number of great ones i mean. There's there's a limit. There's a fairly finite universe of of grade one sprints particularly when you know when his career started it. It's even brought that up. And that was something that i saw. You know reaction of via well you only wanna cut. We only want to great ones. Well okay well let me take that argument apart for you and leave it in the entrails on the floor There were four grade. One sprints in the entire country for older males in both nineteen ninety nine and two thousand at the heart of kona gold's career by comparison. There were twelve races for older females on dirt at.

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:01 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Boston. Spa the paul good morning. Good morning when the hell they're gonna put you in the whole thing. I don't i don't think there well. Let's get kona golden i for. We've discussed this before any number of people. The the prejudice against sprinters in the hall has been and the delay in getting. You know there was a backlog of sprinters to get him in. has been really Frankly shameful and how kona gold is not Is not being voted. In percentage wise is is very troubling. Actually that people don't look at that record and understand that it hall of fame worthy when you go back in history. The sprinters were never really considered great horses. You know it's kind of in fact that you've went if you go back far enough. The when the when the good horses would cut back they would always win the sprint races. Like four would win the vice berg and he'd be sprinter of the year you know so it was like not a lot of credibility to that two sprinters like in the old school horse people which is which is obviously changed because now nowadays we have more of a specialized era before says you know so just like some other things racing slow to change probably more than anything but i would guess that that would be the reason is because the factor of those horses weren't really considered great horses in the in the past. We'll save yeah they do well but we'll we'll save. We'll save this. I know that when when j joins us friday. And i'm jay Doubtedly.

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:39 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"You get trader or go to trainer magazine dot com. They they do a great job With articles that can come out quarterly but I think if they were having a governor recalling the governor of arkansas here when whitmore ran probably win i mean. He's the local to lovable hero. He's the kona gold of arkansas and he's actually won this race four times in a row which is you know and This race it's hard to find too yesterday because it's not great but In in its history has actually been three different distances running a mile in the eighties and had a few running the five and a half and then has settled in. It's a documentary. Choose from here but Three quarters and But we got the rematch of the first two Breeders cup finishers went more and easy. Rocket comes back to where he was claimed by by get miller last year for forty and just went an absolute care And ended up finishing second in the breeders cops you know good seconds and They what He's probably gear for this. And then you know move onto the council eight but He looks ready to raw. I mean i i I get a good look at him but fi sacrilegious recycling pick against whitmore here because he just he'd this loves it Here's when nine out of fourteen Which is pretty wild and actually never been out of the money here at oakland park so Big favorite but a couple of.

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:40 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Is is more prominent determining the outcome of a race than what you're looking at the stall couple of things To the flesh out a as part of this you know year seven-year-old fourth try The horse of course that is most similar to him and breeders cup sprint history kona gold and we go back to the triple crown season run and and we talked during that when he was emerging and then it kind of dedicated to one turning And you know races of of six six and a half and seven the rest of the way career start thirty eight fifteenth win He's now two wins. Two seconds and five starts at keeneland You know give us a little bit of the career retrospective and you know. We've talked so many times over the years after his wins and near misses and know specially is but explain. When you have a worse this good this long. You know what. It's like every morning coming to the barn. It's it's amazing. i mean you know. You're always looking for horse. That can can show what. You're what you're barn can do your You know horsemen are only as good as what we have and you know. That's that's just how it is and when we have a horse like whitmore that wants to do what we wanted to do and that is good enough to do it. If we do our job it means everything to us. And it gives us an opportunity to For like me reaching a dream of winning the breeders cup sprint gives us an opportunity to showcase ability of what we can do with a good horse and it's It's every morning it's a. It's a blessing to walk in there and to see to see a horse that wants to do so badly what we wanna do and we're just we're so fortunate and you know it's not just me it's you know i'm so thankful for saul and and bob lapente and And even go. Far back. To to thankful for nick zito for introduced me to bob lapente. And you know i mean. There's so many things that have to take place for a guy like me from the border of arkansas and oklahoma to get this kind of opportunity you know and i you know i emotional about it. you know. There's lots of stuff that that doesn't help me up or or make me emotional..

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:42 min | 1 year ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"He's GonNa win the Breeders Cup Sprint with this horse I shouldn't. Yeah. Okay. Bobby sounds like Deborah Bobby Frankel line. You know he's GonNa say that but you're thinking he said, I'm not I'm telling you. I'm going to win the breeze sprang with. That was kind of funny you WANNA listen to a a lineup is a fourteen horse field and the favourite was defending winner Kona Gold who had a run in the previous four and has gone gone from fourth to second to first. And he's off the ends up off the board, but listen listen to this. Sprint lineup, and this is what's so crazy about about what's happened to the sprint. Squirrel Squirrel was first extra heat was second. Caller, one was third. Call the one by the way when kids now arrived to horses got off the van from California when was is now in the other was called a one. He was the first off the van and got out the van right after him. Swept overboard was fourth. Okay. It was. Yeah. He was a really good comes behind yours with Eddie Dee and kmph was flying at the end from dead last and gets beat about a length Left Bank swept overboard left bank with John. Delaware township with EIBAR COA was expelled. I I'm not even warming up. Five. Star Day. Kona Gold Seventh Five Star Day was eighth with gold medals. Peeping Tom. Patty rentals. So it's all all run run and sons a guns and one run bech extra. On and on I mean it's just crazy. Out alleman who I vaguely remember. How I was was tenth Mozarts. Mazorra was eleventh. Your opinion. With Mick Kinane. L. Korea door was twelve. L. Corridor was twelfth Victor. He was the second choice. Don't dad no dirt mile then because he was, he was like the best miler in the country. Unbelievable. Then that on sunshine who of course was coming off a third the previous year for Paul McGee and was was a huge third for me in the the previous year with Kona Gold and honest lady, he's thirteen knocker..

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"That he doesn't get the wider support from the overall voters. And I love if there's one of your contributors Or voter there. Who did not vote for him? I would love to hear their perspective on your show as to why they think specifically Kona. Gold didn't do enough during his five years on the track in multiple track records and via figures of one fifteen or higher ten times What Five straight appearances in the Breeders Cup including win including A an eclipse award What what was there? That's not quite world class deserving of being in the hall of fame. I don't get it no and you know the the rise to The rise to success to specifically in the in the Breeders Cup has always struck me from you know his third in his first. Go around to the second behind our tax when he ran a one twenty three fire and then the wind and I was lucky enough to be there for the win at Churchill. That was a wonderful Breeders Cup. And I J. You've heard me say this. I think you and I have discussed it even going back to Alex. Oh Lisa's induction into the hall. I I'm just always confused. How people look at Alex lease in voted him in and when looking at his body of work and his best mounts look to gold the same year and didn't put him in I. It was just stupefying. Well you know Again I just. I don't understand how Kona Gold's not and I'm glad Alex and You know I you know I I. Just don't speaking.

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:50 min | 2 years ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Fame voter Eddie bone. I don't know if anything ever happened with that I I never did follow up but I mean if anybody should be when she should she's got a great nowadays history let's true and And and Ryan is always you know. They're always you know every year. They they ask they say has anybody. Do you think we which is like the nominate or suggests and so we will. We'll pick up that ball. I bring it up because today for those of you. That happened to be listening. That are voters if you didn't get the email reminder from Brian Today's the deadline. You gotTA male. You're either doing online or mail in your ballot. Today's Congress on the ballot. Well let's give a quick rundown Dan First Year eligibility and feels like a feels like a no brainer slam. Dunk type Just twenty three wins and thirty. One career starts including Breeders Cup Miles Kona Gold. Who is way overdue? I mean it's just preposterous. And I've said repeatedly that the time to put Kona golden was when Alex's lease went in I mean that was just the natural to put them in together that didn't happen Blind luck who is a very tough candidate. She is really razor's edge just looking down at that record. Twelve or twenty one three hundred voting for her to and I did vote for game on dude. Who GAME ON DUDE? What are you going to say You only made six and a half million and thirty four career starts sixteen wins but boy it is tough. It is tough to make the case for him. I gotta say I don't know I don't know who hard to grow horse year female here. I'm I struggled with her. And then there's a very very. There's a very funny candidate that some people will when they hear the name they'll say of course and then when you look at the record you say now rags to riches what what are you. What are you supposed to do with rags-to-riches everybody can't get in that? That's the way it's supposed to be. That's right.

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:49 min | 3 years ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"If you take coach coming back in twenty twenty five hours and then you know if you come coming back home with Jake you'll want to get out of your house and a week probably and so you know my <hes> my good friend Charles Summer. He taught me Louis if you haven't she told me some Amman and I recommend when you send it to fair he'll do that sometime over there because I was going to take it some place and giving some rich but he shot recommend if Sunday's work to boost Jackson you will love the way discount you come back. If you WANNA have the rest of the year is season the song I did and we we talked to him. Ammonium and we didn't start to send the Bruce Towers came back thrown firhill looking like a tank. He was muscle dob good way I took to attractive per day and said he looks again and have a horse for the rest of this year and probably next year where he looks <hes> so I was great I in and we went on and training and <hes> and then you can now you see the result and I and I thought I was short going into look a little bit and and you can see them we saw in you know. I take my hat off to the kind of Corum and and and they have their compare he'll that's why you see so many great one going to that place to get a little rest and after the big races or something like that but we have something well he he's a horse that once he gets going and into a nice rhythm he generally he has has maintained it. I mean you go back to you. Go back to his four year old year and you look at last year. He's now sixth grade. One <hes> efforts including two breeders cups three wins a second and two third never off the board in a grade one. He's only really ever been off the board I in a couple of offbeat circumstances at Churchill Churchill downs last year and the slop and you know going back to his three year old a year you tried stretching them out in the Pat Day mile and that that didn't go great and the woody Stevens but other than that he has never failed to be in the money honey and it just got to be very gratifying for for everybody involved you know to have him repeat as the Vanderbilt Winter and now we'll try to do the same thing in the Vase Berg next in the fall and then out to California his third different <hes> attempt attempt at a at a Breeders Cup and of course yesterday we likened him to Kona Gold. It's a Coda gold a fourth dry. I don't know if you want to wait for your fourth. Try Try to try to get it this year. Although were you on hand yesterday for for the Pharaohs chance a lot did did you see that yesterday. I was already driving back and I wanted to do it with watch that range because I I saw oh him winning. A MOM Fargo raised in Nebraska. Wow that's really nice words and then yesterday of course you. I'm driving back. I stopped in their your service. Watch the AIDS and say that it's the month and I hope he can go go along and scratch about stretching out..

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"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:25 min | 3 years ago

"kona gold" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"I like our funding. I was going to segue at some point tonight into talking a little bit about the oaks, I f out of tweet and conjunction response to someone else about. Bella fina. I tell you right now. I don't like Bill FINA. Gonna Mylan in eighth. I don't I don't wanna go along. I know she's one plenty of races going amount of sixteenth. I don't wanna for dine that a mile in any. I could be wrong. What would you would? I guess she's got to be eight to five right? Yeah. I mean that that's my concern. Is that that high? I just I hate defaulting against the favorite. I share your concerns Anthony. And and there are ways to to bet in that setting. I mean there are times and it hasn't happened often. I mean, it's kind of a gamble but fourteen horse field. You can kinda have some fun with it. I mean, there are times I've looked in hade just hated the group and I'll box the six long shots for thirty bucks. And in a fourteen horse field and oaks day. Those are all five six seven hundred dollar numbers or more. So than in my saying, that's a great bet. Not at all my saying, it's a fun way to bet against the field that you don't love. Absolutely. So I'll leave that as an option for me in the back of my head. But I mean, this group just is not had any performance other than jaywalk concern Getty empress who appear to be going the wrong way. And would be the top choices. Anyway, it's really hard. To oppose her. But at the same time, I've I've given three horses. I don't love we're going to be short prices. So maybe it's just hold your nose and swing. Just just appreciate that. Just one last question, and I'll let you guys go who's the best older horse in the country right now. I don't I can't even think about that. Right now. Much. Thanks for the call. Got it. You can answer three. And they're they're in divisions. That aren't typically considered the best. So that's why I'll just give the three and you can go from there. I think Mata Moi girl. Definitely, you know, depending on what happens. Unfortunately, she's her training keeps getting pushed back. I don't love that. But you we know she's better than midnight be to who's looked fine coming back this year. So she's one Brits and mortar, even though it was all out and Louisiana. I thought you know, Chad probably plotted it that he wanted to get this horse race before derby day, expect improvement from him. I thought the Pegasus World Cup. Her was awesome. So he's a horse. I'm looking forward to and then the horse. I voted number one in the N T R A poll Matali, I think has a chance to be a superlative sprint star. You know, maybe as good as dating. Back to horses like Kona gold in our tax. Wow. All right. Three interesting interest, eighty eight nine six six four seven seven six time now for the blood horse news update and look at the top headlines from blood horse dot com..

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"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:34 min | 3 years ago

"kona gold" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"The things I think people need to or at least I believe you'll hall famous opposed to reward a great career as opposed to a great achievement. And I think Royal delta measure. Up in that regard because he had a great career two-time Breeders Cup winner. Three time champion that that belongs in the hall of fame. Not somebody who did you had like a brief shining moment. That's the way I look at it. And I I agree. And in fact, yesterday after I got off the air, the Eddie surly, and I were talking and Andy was you know, was who the voting this year actually for the first time, and you know, he he act. He prompted a very very intelligent back and forth about the difference between career achievement and unique specific flashes of brilliance and historic. Footnotes? And obviously this is you know, where I'm heading is is rags to riches who people when they hear the name think about the Belmont win. And put it in the hundred year context all the way back to Tanya. And I I yes. But the body of work really was was not hall of fame body of work. I mean, he had a great year or great spring, actually and she did pull off, but I'm president feat of winning the Kentucky oaks and the Belmont Stakes in the process of beating the Belmont. She beat curling who had just won the Preakness and went on to be not only horse of the year that year, but the following years. Well, there's already in the hall of fame. So what she did in that about time was pretty special question. You have to ask yourself is is that a great achievement for a great career. And I, you know, I'm very sympathetic to the argument that Andy makes in that regard. You know? And I think there's a lot of emotion involved with rags to riches because it was a great. I mean, the performance was terrific stumbling at the start and still beating horseshoe. You know, we now know was one of the best forces we've seen in the last twenty five years in kirtland. So that I mean that was the incredible performance on her part. But is that? Plus, the what else he did that springs that enough to say, you're an all time great. You know, it's it's to me. It's a to me, he's a borderline. Candidate. She's not she wouldn't be the worst one to go in. But there's to me better ones out there again yet you look like up bring it back to Kona goals. I think those who would say those would support rags-to-riches over Kona gold would be, you know. Well, he didn't win a classic. He was quotable Justice printer, which is something I've gotten pushed back on in the past less so recently on our conference calls but to be running in five street Breeder's Cup sprint and being champion setting track records and multiple races and winning race. Is that because of his wins caused the races that he won the end up getting elevates like Bing? Crosby was great too. When he wanted because of him it ended up being a great one..

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