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The Sedano Show (HR 3)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

44:40 min | 1 year ago

The Sedano Show (HR 3)

"Savannah show here on E._S._P._N.. L._A.. Sorry grabbed the wrong hit said again this headset over here. Okay when Jared Goff has his next delay of game it's Michael. You're not allowed to the headline on your show and I can't you can't even blame the beer because I did it. When I was sober to? This is true. You're sober no I have. I've only had two six so Greg Bergman the crack staff base in Ireland. I was not aware of this. I did just google. Ask Her not that not that. I don't trust him but I just wanted to double check and confirm. There is no waiver deadline anymore this year they implemented a singular deadline and major league baseball. Oh so this is it that rule folks wow this year. I still not worried. When did they do that? It was apparently implemented. I had no idea that I'm looking it up here. Bob Nightingale is a long time and moping U._S._A.. Today interviewed him a story here and yeah they got rid of it so okay so the dodgers. The dodgers are done John Yeah they're done. Everyone's done talent okay but it doesn't matter. I think you are what you are. Anyway like you said seventy wins yeah. What are you complaining about right? Yeah I accept not winning a world series. I just think that people overreact to the trade deadline. I think ultimately there's two teams in the sport thank you that have put themselves. What I I would say in a three teams? I would say that I think are far and away a cut above everyone else Houston the dodgers and the Yankees Fair enough right. I'm not even I'm not willing to put anyone else in that category just yet even though the cardinals are playing well even though the red sox for playing better right. They're not gonNA catch the Yankees in my opinion because they just want three out of four against them and it's basically down. Those are the three teams to beat. The nationals are playing and much better baseball right. Now I get that I'm not worried about them. Yeah Strasbourg is pitching well. I if dodger fan I get the whole tension of one thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty one years remember I get it. It's been a while man I get it but yeah as a full grown human this. That's never seen a world series but the guy in charge is why not maybe not widely because it subjective but is regarded by many the guy in charge here in l._a.. Is regarded by many as the best guy to do this thing you know like he took a Tampa Bay rays team. Yeah that was full of a bunch of kids got out to the world series. You know what I'm saying what he's doing. This guy goes out of bill the roster you watch like you know about poker right yeah Phil Ivey doesn't win. Every hand correct can be right or wrong. It just depends but at some point when we get to the playoffs the postseason or the world series we're gonNA come back and revisit because the teams that did get stronger. We'll see how they do in the teams that stood pat at the deadline. We'll see how they do. Maybe at some point we'll wish the dodgers had had made a move at the deadline but as of right now with seventy like like you said a seventy one team. It seems like just sit tight. You're fine yet but we'll find out later pushing. The panic button just seems absurd the panic buses. It's there's no point in getting on the panic Boston baseball there isn't you're wasting your time wasting senior energy getting on the bus. It doesn't make any sense first of all. There's two seasons. There's the marathon of one hundred sixty two games which clearly the dodgers don't have to worry about because has they've got such a cushion that that's not a thing you know. We've actually joked on the air multiple times here whether it's on this show myself with Mason in Ireland when we do the cross talk so damn good. They're boring right. It's all over but the child right yeah have to have an epic collapse it yet. It's it's impossible right but what you have is you have the marathon and then you have the sprint sprint comes. He's in the postseason in October so I also think the wave you look at their roster the way they're constructed. They hit it on a home runs right like that. That's how you win in baseball now okay right good pretty good pitching and you hit home runs see. That's the thing that scares me yeah. They have have good pitching though that's what scares me in the postseason because hitting a lot of home runs doesn't really do it for all. It's not true anymore. She pitching is what wins for you in the Post. Look at the last three world series champions the Red Sox led the League in home runs the Astros lead the League in home runs. The cubs finished third so I just recent history three okay yeah. I'd rather lean on good. I think you still need a combination about no doubt but that notion of we gotta play Small Ball those days are done. Those things are taught at some point. You're going to have to go now honestly when you're facing good bitchy. No you're GONNA have to play small ball at some point. I mean there. I'm not saying that there's like zero Ason ACIS yeah. I'm not saying there's zero chance that that should happen yeah because you have to have the ability to play them all there. There's everything should be take. I'm not an absolutist yeah so everything is on a case by case basis but I am not a guy who believes in giving away outs a sacrifice is to me. I don't give away out. Give me a chance to get cody bellinger up to bat or this crazy lineup right back muncie whoever they've gotten the liner like give me a chance for those guys to drive in if you're facing ver- lander and this is all and you have to play small ball just to get one across the plan your for pitchers hot to we're one run is going to be the difference. I'll take a sacrifice. Just don't that baseball right now. There's a lot of those scenarios they come up occasionally particularly the season. They do Jerry but I think overall. I think that's how you the way you win. Baseball Games now is be the best slugging team right not always not always just home runs slugging percentage includes doubles triples things like that right like kids and driving it runs that to me is the way you went. Ziebel's drilled into my head good pitching good pitching always beats good hitting that wasn't I would lean on pitching the day adage adage for very long time I still think again nothing is absolute right like there needs to be a balance here right but I think that at spores offense is concerned concert. I'm less about over people way out like hell. No I know what I'm saying. I got in the regular season. No a some season yes. A sacrifice fly to me is different because you're trying to hit the ball for saying like you're trying to get a hit in that scenario but I want stealing basis like I'm done like don't steal bases either the legally so when I was a kid ricky Henderson Ricky Anderson Coleman yes they would steal one hundred bases a year. Yes on a bad year right right. Go Look at the League leader in stolen bases now what does he is. He over twenty five. I'll be surprised barely barely always understand that that's just not the way to win. It doesn't you're giving the risk isn't worth the reward in those scenarios steal the bag yeah yeah unless you have a guy that can do it or you're completely desperate true right. What was the fast guy can't hit center fielder billy? I can't remember his name. All all this guy can do with steel base. Yeah blindingly plasma can't hit right but those you have to be in a again. It's all a case by case scenario. I'm not an absolute this but I'm not I'm not stealing basis people. I'm not doing it. God You get Boring Baseball. That's pouring baseball. It's not a guide you hit it over the fence. This is true but unless you have that guy or you're in the steroid era at some point you're going to have to steal a bag or two yeah Billy Hamilton Billy Hamilton all my guy by guy can run hit. You can get into Greg. WHO's at studio listening or you go yeah because he's got the do you have the Blue Review Greg just text me and just say yes or no and I'll just text this? Is Your texting me right now anyway <hes> so anyway and I see the bubbles right now myself listening clearly at this point so you had brought up play Matthew yes so let let's do that on the other side. Oh Greg is going on the radio with Brian Cabinets from eight to nine say trade deadline special nice so there you go so Greg Birdman Brian Kamsky he from eight to nine so make sure you're listening to that here on E._S._p._N.. L._A. Seven ten we love Greg Bergman. I've known Greg Berkman for twelve years before he worked for Mason and Ireland really he works for me action. No kidding when I worked at Fox sports radio so makes you listen to Greg and B. K. from eight to nine so now I just need to know what's on from seven to eight so feel free punchy at some point to tell me that when you have a second soccer weekly so Dave Denholm soccer after week we'll talk about less L. A._F._C.. Galaxy all that stuff and then <hes> Greg and B. k. from eight to nine M._l._b.. Trade deadline special. There were more bubbles on my phone fold. Greg actually must have heard me say soccer weekly so anyway great great talking to you so either way we're golden road brewing. You and I will chat about Clay Matthews or what what kind of impact he could have 'cause no one dominant suit right. He's gone clay. Matthews brought in different position like how does that balance necessarily work. Pass rusher could be a thing potentially clay's not a young guy so let's tackle. That Pun intended all coming up in three minutes so Donald Show here on E._S._p._N.. L._A. Demarco far hanging out with me here at Golden Road Brewery happy see the folks here. I met a Cuban gentlemen over their lives here the O._C.. Or wanted to shout me out. Throw your hands up right areas and K Cuban Nebraska like how the hell did that to Nebraska Yeah. They had a for kids. They had this thing. The country's Houston called like the Peter Pan Exchange and the kids and the families were placed in different parts of the country and he was in Nebraska and imagine not knowing the language and open your Nebraska big time in like Miami L._A.. People speak Spanish. I bet the first thing he learned was corn Husker for sure he can for sure so by the way you asked me. This burger is delicious. It's got a lot of bacon and a lot of avocado and you asked how far I could get in those two and a half have three minutes not very far about three bites. Is that three bytes for you. It's all your bird. It's a it's a big burger. I mean but that's that's a legal man though nipple right there man thing I did have to I wanNA take some of the big enough so I can have it set as least send it back. They know it's take the bacon out. Come on now no heat the the Bacon Bacon could be almost like it's I'm watching the carbs a little bit so I wanNA speak in a few fries less bread. You know what I'm saying. Would you like to be on a diet eating a burger. Hey just thing you can do it. Come on got it. What I had this spelt look? I've got the Burger and run tomorrow on democracy lives by the beach. Really I do so anyway Clay Matthews yes so clay matthews who I mean look I had him on the show. He's great. I think that clearly he's at the latter stages of his career. Is that fair to say I would I would I would say hold the phone on that okay. Yeah I keep I keep saying it wrong. It's not claim after you junior. That's actually the third he's the third and his father played nineteen years. His uncle played eighteen so relatively Lee speaking in the family. I think he's got a lot left and when you watch him workout warm up and practice. He looks like he's twenty five years old really think something Liam was going on in Green Bay and it turns out. I was right okay. They fired Mike McCarthy. There's something going on with Aaron. Rodgers Mike Daniels got released right before can't there's something screwy going on in Green Bay so that could take a lot of the energy right out of you so I think coming here being treated properly as a vet. You may get three or four or five more seasons right at a high level out of this guy right at one point no team in the N._F._l.. Felt comfortable leaving their tackle either one one on one with Klay Matthew Right. I still think that guy exists. I still think that guy has that sort of ability or this. Football team won't be connor borrowing. No he won't come here to die. Okay you know what I mean and the next year looking be looking for a job. I think he'll be an effective player this year for this football. Wow that's interesting now is he's no longer in every down player though you think I think it'll be like Green Bay he'll play as much as he wants to as much as he can't right and I mean there's GonNa be some subs because Samson Abraham Com's guy who has a lot of experience yes now. He may be the first guy that goes to the bench but at some point he's going to take a series or two from Clay Matthews the third so you'll get your arrests that way which is great yeah. I think if you can find a way to spell Aaron Donald a few I think that would be great. You keep them fresh for the fourth quarter. You know what I mean second in close teams out so I still think at this point the way they're gonNA use him in Wade Phillips Defense. I think Clay Matthews the third is going to be very very dynamic for for this football team. That's fascinating because he's one of the guys that again. I liked the move because it just that that that's a veteran. That's a guy who's obviously kind of been through these big time time games that you expect to be in a particularly in the postseason and then you know their pass rush is somewhat questionable beyond Aaron Donald Right now so yeah having him in the full thing helps losing sue and Donald can choose gone what are they. What are they losing by losing a guy that was out there every single snap he played ninety eight percent of the stamps and he was very very versatile big guy three hundred and some odd pounds slotted as the nose tackle play left end played right in played everywhere and never left the field? That's going to be tough to duplicate and replicate but when you mentioned the pass rush the first guy I think of is not Aaron. Donald is actually Dante foul right now. He's a guy that's running for the money like Aaron Donald was is you have a good season. You can write your own check you. You can make that generational money coming off the edge. Somebody is going to benefit from all the attention Aaron Donald Seats Right. You would think it's going to be the next one I think it's going to be on McKay is going to be the guys on the outside that are going to benefit from the attention. He sees and get consistent. One on ones ninety percent of the time so fowler dollar is the Guy I think that could be knocking on the door of ten sex or more by December just because of the attention ninety nine. It's going to see that and the money yes yeah. He's is running for the money and look this is the year that he has to prove. He's done a bust. You couldn't crack the starting lineup for good in Jacksonville. You got you got here halfway. Through the season. Last skier had a pretty good run to end the year but we still don't know who you are and what you are as a player now. We get to see you for sixteen weeks. The job is yours right. I bet he he has one of those transcendent. Do believe Fowler has lived up to the billing to this point in his career so far I mean he's he's a pass rusher. You can tell that by looking at it you you can tell that he's got a natural wiggle yeah by watching him warm up so that's something they haven't had since Robert Quentin Chris Chris Long route here at the same time right so they've got a true defensive then a guy that could just flat go get it from the edge now. They need it for sixteen weeks and they need it when they need it most as in when the team team locks down on Aaron Donald Lange's forbids him from getting up the middle so somebody's got it went on the outside and that guy has to be fellow who's going to be the guy to replace soon the Middle Vote Sebastian Joseph days the guy that I like had the redshirt year. He's huge people when you think of beauty most people think alike Halle Berry right. I think his lower body is gorgeous. Okay we're defensive tackle. It's huge yeah. You have to iron his underwear in the sir mix a lot. Yes yes for tax. Purpose and great gains a guy that just grafted. I didn't grow up in the nineties doesn't get that resolutely got back yes he he does oh but over here is laughing time right but those two guys at least at the nose tackle spot can replicate or at least rotate in and out and give you what sue gave you know what I mean. Maybe even better because Sudan turn it on into the playoffs right so these guys are both it's. It's a rookie and a second year Guy Hungry. They don't know what they're doing just yet but they Mac may actually give you more than what sue gave you in the regular season. That's interesting because I again. You're talking about young guys who are trying to prove themselves. I think that that can that can be benefit for a team to have a guy out there. That's like you know I'm still trying to make my way in this league. I mean you're only as good as what your film says. No doubt and you can be here. One day gone the next very quick very true yeah absolutely when I talk to Greg gains about coming into the N._F._l.. L. And what the team expects out of him I said what do you hope to accomplish this year. He looks me right in the Anglos. Whatever errand wants me to do and I'm like that's perfect yeah? That's great great. Yes that's funny by the way if you missed Aaron Donald yesterday we're going to have him probably around six o'clock or so he was on your c around five thirty so show we'll we'll run that in the six o'clock hour I haven't figured out exact intimidated. Never you know right yeah because he even though he is a massive massive man and he's built like compact right like it's easy like he's not like. I've been around defensive tackles before that are the prototypical defensive tackle right or like the guy you want in in the movie right yeah yeah x four six five three hundred pound a big nasty yeah yeah Yeah Yeah Chester mcglockton like Nassau's Kinda guys right. Who's the guy that played for Buffalo Forever Smith no that was the defensive tackle just retired? Yes Kyle Williams. Yes yes right six four three twenty. He's that no and I understand before when he's coming out of Pitt right Aaron Donald where GM's would be like kind of small the rams the rams were split on Aaron Donald Right and you believe that had that had to stand on the table and say he's the best guy in the draft right yeah. Some people even called him a change of pace defensive tackle. What in the world is that yeah? That's crazy right and now he's the best player in the game yeah yeah it is pretty pretty wild but when you just see it because he's not very tall right he just built compact yeah and the strength that he possesses is incredible. I saw him slap a face mask off another human being not grabbing rip off. He slapped it off the guy's fate. Yeah I believe ended all drama right there. Yeah yeah absolutely believe it. Show what I would say when you have to be dated by him is this is I wasn't intimidated by by any stretch of the imagination what I was is because he's so nice right like he's very soft. Spoken is probably a way to describe it yeah and just get him to talk about himself. I did a little bit. It's the hardest thing in the world yeah do it yeah yeah we talked about the training with the knives law which is Kinda funny but people here can't wait though here maybe in about like thirty minutes or show thirty thirty five minutes. We'll run it but yeah he is just for the type of guy. He is very humble right like he arguably is the best player in the League so I'm GonNa ask you a question on the other side about him specifically but more along the lines about defense in the N._F._l.. And its place so let's do that on the other side I kind of recap the trade deadline at the top of the hour at six o'clock for those that didn't know what happened. There was a big move made by the Astros dodgers made some small time moves that should help the club. We'll get to all that coming up at six Aaron. Donald maybe around six fifteen but let let's get to kind of wear defense wise now in the N._F._l.. N._F._L. and if it has a place that's coming up in two minutes here on E._S._p._N.. But I I gotTa tell you waiting is never fun. Usually nothing good happens habits when you wait my buddy Jacob and the law of Jacob and Ronnie WanNa make sure you don't wait after an accident immediately after an accident before talking to the Insurance Company called Jacob Jacob his team will do all the work make all the phone calls handle. The paperwork set doxa points whatever the case may be because when you speak to the insurance company I know they can use your words against it. You know they record that stuff right so Jacob but his team to guide you through the process. Get you the compensation you deserve and you don't pay Jacob unless he wins. That's right nothing out of pocket so if you're injured in an exit the first day the I thought the first call should it'd be Jacob. 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If I go too long without car without carbs okay I don't have I probably have cut my carbon. Take easily by well over half early sixty percent when you walked up. Maybe that was like wow is that George occurs looks good. Thanks well up yeah so carbs here. Kito Diet is that close or akin to the Atkins Diet similar similar. What's different Kito adding that Atkins did not think that there's intermittent fasting really prosciutto and there's you can have your carbs most of them in the morning yeah take your body's just getting revved up? You know what I'm saying where enough kinds you're not doing any none yeah yeah works lose weight quick yeah but then you have a piece of bread and gained that's with Atkins. You're telling me so with Kito. At least you're still have yards and you're having a good carbs like look at you roots and things I like it yeah healthy living. I like it. You gotTa have it. That's why I always throw avocado and stuff. Why Orders Burger mood why order the burdens you're not gonNA get a patty and cheese but I had who a lot of red this morning on breakfast all right so I gotta balance it out and I want to somebody else could have had that bone and I wanna speak in some fries? I'll I'll eat. The bundy was delicious. I did have the two two bites three bites. Cut the part that you have been the bug and I'll be your car gear enough demarco far this year on this show a golden road brewery across Angel Stadium. Thanks to hang thanks for you guys for hanging out and stopping by today and always listening appreciate you guys listening as well congratulations to the winners that we had today to the angels game with us. We had a bunch of people there with their families and stuff but the kids it was great. No one's corroborated your strike yet. It's on video which angle I mean you didn't see the catches. I can make a strike on video. I mean the catch is move okay. I'm just checking all right. He framed it properly he bought saying no one's corroborated the strike yet. The audience wanted me to throw heat because they said I'm Latino and I need to throw the show was it's kind of justification for it and then I said you know what I'm just GonNa hit the glove. After L Z hit one low it was a little low strike and I'm like Nah. I felt better. I'm just GONNA put it right there. I put it right there. Okay so I'll do that and I you know he framed it. I hit the globe that was the end of it so speaking of Burgers by the way yes before I ask you the question about defense in where it lies America's favorite and least tapert Fast Food Burger survey is out there on Yahoo today. Would you like to take a guess at who America's Favorite Fast Food Food Burger is yes. This is nationwide right. I guess it's hard to get away from McDonald's fast food right. I mean you can't say in and out that's not everywhere in and out is still a national brand though because they're on a lot of states across the states okay Texas then I would say Hananel the Dow is number one and three percent nice rating our friends at McDonald's came in the bottom. McDonald's is the worst I came in at the bottom of the list no kidding how many on the list one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen thirteen out of thirteen how is the jacket was five guys burger third was co versed never had a covert. Oh Yeah Good Burger. Where's that they have the buttered bonds? Okay yeah good burger who yeah butter steak at Ruth Chris's then you'd like Colbert's yeah yeah you would so those were the three the big three wow right there. I I WANNA fight people that say like like they say like in and out is overrated. I I really WANNA fight people over that. Most people say that when they're from Texas yes they think what Burger say what a Burger is better than not at Burger only got fifty eight percent see. That's what it is that Texas okay. Thank you so you have it so defense. <hes> we asked Aaron Donald The question about Kenneth Hannah defensive player with the M._v._p.. Says he's going to try yeah but do you believe in today's game that it is possible for defensive player to win the M._v._p.. India no no. I think you have to score you have to be on the other side of the football. I mean if you're a defensive M._V._p.. At the M._V._p.. Of the League on the the defensive side that means it's defensively scoring is down. You're the most important guy on the field but no I mean I think you're m._v._p.. He is probably going to be a quarterback running back or receiver. You know what I mean people that put the ball in the box J._J.. Watt when he was having his run when he was the best the defensive player in the game had to get you know offensive production scoring touchdowns to to get nods to get a look for the M._v._p.. So no I think it's impossible for any defensive player to win m._v._p.. This in this day and age I mean the closest we ever got was a special teams player right when Mark Moseley Isley wanted to strike year and eighty-two kicker for the Redskins yes right on kicker lassen straight on guys yeah. That's probably the closest we've got right. I mean if anybody can do it. It would Abad yeah as of right now but you're going to have to do something beyond what you've already done and the only thing he hasn't done in the sack record no score. Oh that's the only thing you I haven't done his. You've taken the ball away ended drives. You've done everything defensive. Tackle can do and even more the only thing that would sway votes is if if you score yeah there was one year I wanNA say two thousand six. Jason Taylor won the defensive player of the year. He scored a couple of touchdowns and he did get some votes m._v._p.. A._p. that year you have the ball in the box. Even though he played on a team that was he didn't win. He couldn't win because he was on a team. That was I believe under five hundred that year that was Nick Sabin Second Miami Yeah Great Player but Khalil Mack would have a better shot at it but because linebacker guy yeah. He's got the chance for picks. More strips acts absolutely yeah but I mean I think you'll come close even if he's in the conversation you know I remember I went to school with a guy named Steve. AETNA finished third in the voting for the heisman yeah from a defensive tackle position that to me is considered a win if you get that high if you're in the conversation so yeah with brees with brady with Rogers with all the guys with all the the offense of explosion in the national football. It'll be hard to top one of those guys. Let let me ask you this. There used to be a mantra in the N._F._l.. And by the way at the top of the hour we're GonNa Kinda. Catch you up what happened with the M._l._b.. Trade deadline and don't forget coming coming up after us at seven is soccer weekly but eight Greg Berkman and Brian Cabinets here to do an MBA trade deadline special show here on the station. Do you believe that the four prime positions are still quarterback left tackle corner and pass rusher or do you believe that's evolved. No I still think it's the premium spots you need. The Guy The guy that can throw it a guy that can protect the thrower and a guy that can knock how come down the road and then the receiver on the other end so so you think that corner is still one of them my choice if I had a choice between a hot pass rusher or a shutdown corner I'm taking the pass rush right so you would rank them. How quarterback number one hundred one left tackle number two? Okay you need to have tack to protect the guy then receiver then pass rusher receiver than pass because you booted quarter out of that original core four four that I would take. I would take the pass rusher. I would take the quarterback I would take the left tackle over the shutdown corner. Wow Yeah I mean there's other has evolved evolved in that sense yeah. There's only so much they can do and your defensive guys saying right. I mean if I have a great left. Tackle can have a mediocre quarterback that can get better right because you can't get tool. If I have a hall of fame type quarterback. My offense is going to be better because of that guy. You know what I mean yeah. If I have a shutdown corner and that's it there's still chance that can lose all sixteen games. You know what I mean. They just won't be able to pass that side of the field interest. What do you think but but I'll say this? I think football's headed is everyone needs a good nickel. I mean because that third linebacker is isn't on the field feels much your right that guy's on the field more so you better have a dynamite nickel nowadays man. I just don't know like I feel like if you can still get a great shutdown corner I mean I don't know how many guys because of the way off have evolved can like shut down a half of the field like Dion. Maybe used to back in the day but I still think if you can I find it again not beyond guy who can just lock up his man Durrell Riva Style and you don't have to worry about that side. That's pretty valuable. There's just not that many of them anymore and the rule changes have hurt those guys a lot more more than anything else Oh. It's only going to get worse this year with the P._i.. Right and you can challenge everything now so we'll Z.. But just from what I see now when you need it most you need someone that can get to the passer and when you need it. Most you need a guy that can make a play at quarterback right in either with your legs or with your arm and definitely on the other end. If you've got type Flock top-flight receivers you've got a chance to stay on the field longer which means you have a chance to score more points corners I think I can I'll be okay with average corners versus having one guy that's a lockdown and nothing else coming up next will go into what happened at the trade deadline. The Astros got a lot better. That's not great news for the dodgers. The dodgers did some stuff though that I think could help their team a little bit. Anthony Davis went Jimmy Kimmel talking about his experience with the Lakers and how Stroz Arizona Basic. I think it was four prospects for Zach Cranky and what he's an excellent pitcher still like I still have questions since about maybe in the postseason it hasn't always gone great for but I think he absolutely helped a team. That already has got a ton of riches right like the rich get richer here in this particular situation yeah you know I'm a big fan of of Lou. Now I get what he's trying trying to do and I think that's where I learned. My baseball was from the Mid West where pitching makes right cardinal cardinal makes right so so I think this could be the one that sends it towards them in the postseason because like you said man that's that's a top three outs game. One burland game two Garrett Cole. WHO's tough as nails and then grinky? Is your third starter. Yeah you know so depending on how that goes. which guy do you bring back? If you need for game seven you know what I mean. That's that's a tough three guys to have in the postseason yeah for sure so cranky has a pitch in the postseason a a ton recently because the diamondbacks hasn't been that great two years ago obviously they were in the playoffs. They beat Colorado though he didn't necessarily have a great game three and two thirds gave up four earned and quick hook for him right in that particular one and then lost to the dodgers it went five innings. There gave up three and look if you look at his postseason career it was rocky to start many many years ago. He got really good even in the postseason but his last postseason appearance not ideal seven to seventy I._R._A.. Those two games combined again small sample sample size yeah but he's getting up at age he he may not have the exact kind of stuff but again they may not need him to have the he crazy electric stuff that he had a couple years ago to win because they've got depth as you pointed could be five point five get to the bullpen right. That's all they need need him for and he's perfectly capable of doing that right so are are you saying that they shouldn't have made the move. I just don't fall over yourself because of the I just don't like people are freaking out today. The frigging effort to reach frigging after the dodgers didn't make the move they wanted them to make and freaking out because cranky went wait to the Astros and all I'm saying is like yeah he's good but he's not unstoppable by any stretch of the right dodgers themselves in two thousand seventeen right got three runs and five. It gets your attention though it does yeah. I think it's the name right. That's what it is is that here's the other thing I've learned in sports right and you could talk about this when it comes to like baseball and basketball have this going for them. I guess football. There's some of this to where you know. The name and you're like Oh yeah that guy that guy. I want that guy on my team. I'm glad my team made the move for that guy and I'm not saying this isn't GonNa pay off for the Astros. It might very way the hell do. I Know Jeff waste smarter than I am but he's a hacker though but for years people fall in love with the names like you hear like Carmelo Anthony for the last couple of years right like we were talking about him earlier. Ben And people were like Oh yeah metal just needs the right situation again and Oklahoma City dried and Houston dried and all of a sudden. Maybe it's about the situation but the fan base has got him. We got no yeah yeah you know. Sometimes you forget that father time is undefeated. Feed it right and those guys may not be as good as you once remembered. You just don't the name because they were great point hold. His grinky cranky is I can look it up. If you really thirty second let's go to more INFO and be over thirty five years thirty five and two hundred eighty three days actually okay so he'll be. He's he'll be thirty-five if they get to the world series. He'll be turning thirty six. I guess in a sky or a top of the rotation guy that's that's been leitch. You still have a lot left I don't know about you're not old at that point for guy. That's I mean he's. He's not throwing gas yeah. I mean not a power pitcher. I mean he it just saying there's not a ton left in the day yeah yeah I mean I think he's got enough for a good run possibly the next couple of seasons. I think it's a good move yeah if I had a chance to to bolster my lineup my my rotation with a guy like him. I'd make that move so I think that there's two trains of thoughts right. <hes> Burland was thirty four. I guess or thirty three when they when the astros grabbed him but burland again had attract a better track record of success. I would say the postseason his brand is better. Yeah and there are certain guys. Lou Now seems to be those one one of those kind of guys. It's like prospects are suspect till proven otherwise which I believe in except when you look at a dodgers team again it's a case by case basis you look at the dodgers team that has Andrew Friedman running it that loves values. He's the complete opposite right. He values his draft guy. His prospects his draft craft guys and they kind of hit like you look at the cody bellinger Cory seager right Alexander Dugo Walker Bueller who I think is going to pay dividends like he's. He's paid some already. You look at the guys that he's held onto. There's a reason held onto the I mean that's so there. There's different ways to build the franchise. If you have guys coming up that you are going to be good even if you're this close if you're a seventy one team I'd be reluctant to give those guys up now. Some people like you said they get caught up in. We need to win right now because we haven't won in thirty years right right and if you come up short short sheet yourself herself for ten years you know what I mean but if you can go ahead and make a move to win now and it's almost guaranteed it would be worth worth it for me to give up or to risk those ten years to get it done now. If I get that guaranteed with the guy that I get there's just no guarantee though right I mean I mean sometimes. You can't if you get the right guy. If you have a big need you know if you get a closer at the deadline. I don't think the dodgers really have no big no no but if you did if you if you had a need for were closer and you can get one right and that's the guy that's GonNa put up. Go ahead and mortgage the future right but if you're close with what you have why wasted wastes your future for for right now because a guy like Gavin Lux the dodgers needed second basement he's hitting close to five hundred or whatever the hell it is. He's going to be the is that right. It'd be there for ten years and you're going to have another guy who is going to be there for ten years in theory with bell injured seeger and all those guys I mentioned so you're building this monster monster ball club some it's still very much cost control for several years so then you can go after in free agency potentially if you so you so the guy we're not costing you any of those valuable guys. You have the form but you heard Ben Lyons man people don't WanNa hear that they want to hear arrayed series now they've been at the world series two years. They WanNa hear championship. Now wins the Breyer they been in the world series to us and you know why being in contention. I Yeah Karen Dante it. They will be there for a third time in a row this year. I'll take that that yeah yeah. This'll be fun. Yeah I mean I. I can't doubt they're good enough right yeah. They've got they've got good enough players and they're great at the plate. You know what I mean. No one's scares me in the National League yet they will we'll wait. I mean you don't WanNa get cold outside. Thanks change sure yeah teams start to separate themselves the Madison Bumgarner of the world start to pop up around September right right. Yeah Somebody Outlook we'll give you he moved yeah. I would have been a little more fearful because he's been a dodger killer big time. Did he vetos taste. I think they feel they're still within striking distance of the wild changed everything okay so the minute he was out there then they changed. They haven't run. They've gone on a run. They had a crazy easy July basically basis. I want to say since June twenty eight twenty nine they they they were like four or five games like that. Something's in the air were bad teams. All of a sudden become unstuck gauged yeah no they were sixteen and three at one point so it can't that'd be the I'm going back to June July yeah yeah yeah yeah but in July you're right yes so back. He didn't move. I'm good with that. You know what I'm saying. God Yeah but that that's kind of some of the stuff that's going on so the dodgers did add Jerko good utility utility player perfect type of guy that you could just kind of slide in and who love them in the postseason right yeah and he's the guy was tested in those scenarios to post. He's been a champ camp before right. He's been on the world series champ before like He. He is a guy who can play shortstop to play second base could play third base kid. Just fill multiple roles can pinch hit in the perfect situation. Now there's two that goes on there and then the kid they added from Tampa Bay the Left handed reliever which thought they needed that too and you you know is is numbers. Don't pop adam caloric but it solid yeah I would trade for League just for the fight so he went to Cleveland just in case about how crazy that fight Pittsburgh best baseball fight. I've ever seen for Cincinnati Psychic. Bring them all on. That's the first time I've seen the pitch actually looks like he can fight. It was the wildest thing this still pictures that people took the videos incredible but the still pictures I think are even more incredible because guys like hanging autumn and he's just like on top of everyone. Yeah people at speed looks like a wrestling picture yeah. It looks like the Royal Rumble. It does look guess. My favorite baseball fight actually was the guy door when he punched Joey Bats. Yes that's my favorite. This is my second yeah yeah that happened in the field which was incredible. Why would you try him yeah? His name is rough-knit rooted but it looks like rough-knit. Try Him yeah. We didn't get to the Anthony Davis stuff so here's what we're doing. Let's get Andy's Jimmy Kimmel. Yesterday talked talked about the trade to the Lakers collided the clippers and space jam two as well so we'll hear from Anthony Davis show at six thirty to push back the Aaron. 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#703 - Jordan Belfort

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#703 - Jordan Belfort

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You said that we're talking about going to prison and you said the main thing I wanted to hit you said I. I always knew I make money. The man should personal question. Did you have a paper out as a child of course again America. You think I'm fucking line team. While the fuck is to learn how you can have a paper route shoot yourself in the head of course I that was part of my stories. I first thing was going door to door knocking on doors to deliver papers Isola absolutely deliver it so I did a two years my mouth so obsessed with growing this paper out my mom. Maybe sell it to someone else so I had to sell to the upstairs. Neighbor Mimmack First Prophet seventy dollars though is the richest kid in town right to retire at the age of ten but didn't last long was an eleven started shoveling driveways at the snowstorm used to fucking snow so much back into their Matt right what Al Gore invented global woman you still like crazy just went out with a show. She's knocking on doors twenty bucks driveway and if I pushed you out that's another ten yeah fucking kipness. We'll come back with ploy to shovel eh inside Berry. They won't get your car out two thousand eighty good to fuck it. I could tell from your interviews and just reading a lot about your feet when the book came out that the main the thing is you're a fucking sales sales we sell from beginning to end that Pacino movie is always be selling. That is what we do in my sleep. I sell them because nothing happens until you you start selling is everything you're just a regular fucking Momo. You know what I'm saying until you go. I think people don't realize I think selling is just a salesman. It's the furthest thing from the truth. You know just what you do personally. You're always trying to get your ideas. Is your points across to go yet. It's communication call right without the ability to communicate. What's on your mind and effective way? You're going through life like barely alive. That's what I think. What was the job that made you realize your real cells that whatever the fuck you at the meat and seafood door to door was the first real big sales job where I would go knocking on doors co calling home to home business the business and selling them you know boxes of frozen meat and vision? I just broke the company record. The first day by a country mile never looked back. No sure was the company record if they were average averaging like five boxes per day my first day they gave me thirty by boxes of meat in the truck assault ball thirty five boxes. I am also woman when the truck all right and that first week I saw two hundred and forty boxes. The average production was thirty for the Congress bligh blew away the company record. Come onto Jew so meat for so I worked for this for about four weeks and then I started on me company myself with these moves far right they have a time there was no food in the freezer razor sliced Bombay because before that I sold Isis blanket the blanket on Jones speak Gosh amazing. I heard that but that was on work that wasn't really sales. You know what I'm saying so when you asked about what was the first sales job was really meat and seafood right so you would wake up in the morning or the Greek distributor story. Ah Queens right load up four barrels look who's white stifles with Cherry Lemon Lemon Lemon ice skate right and Marino's Marino's ship which is flood jiggles Milky Way snickers fully loaded cooler cost. Let's be twenty two bucks. I blow it out in Alpha. One hundred thirty bucks so four nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred seventy eight. That's a lot as hold you sixteen sixteen. Yeah didn't give a fuck fuck. I was amazing. It was amazing. Take the Maytham. It wasn't the girls it was amazing it was that he got singles so you how much four hundred dollars singles a million dollars that was the best part of it. When you woke up in the morning you think of Pussy Z. or making money for everything I've done was a pussy in my life every single thing when you open your eyes and say God thank you for giving me another fucking day? It's time to make money yeah. Fuck somebody in the air. It's time to make mice. I could fuck someone in the beautiful. That's that's it. I mean honestly the older now like I don't know I got a lovely wife. WHO's the Best I've been married but that was my every I love the women since I was when I was five years old I have stopped the Scott Auto approve that I was being chased by some little girl and nursery and I ran into a brick wall just like that and cracked opened my sixteen stitches on my right and ever since then it's been downhill? You made it quote that I I don't quote you but I try to portray it. As much as I can. Tell people that greed is not good right. Ambition is good but passion Yeah Passion when you were selling meat and beef. Would you do it. I mean you just let you love getting up in the morning and that's fucking challenge of clothes on a mother. Fuck that challenge of the guy going. I'm not interested. Hold on let me let me tell you eat a month. That's fucking challenge of opening that fucking door. You know every daily call that chick come on suck. Your boyfriend practice was I'll tell you the I keep you keep saying no but now you keep getting getting better at my I can't I have a boyfriend. Just come over for a little while. We'll look at pictures. I show you pictures of pugs. Whatever you know whatever I've always been so she's having asthma boyfriends very given the not interested right? They in my job was always when I first got on the phones I was taught if they got to buy from you. EITHER GONNA die change their fuck in number or shoot themselves but they're gonNA buy from it and and you firstly you start selling. You get discouraged when somebody hangs up on my Dick. It's what a mother fucker hangs up on me. That's the Guy I'm going to sell. I'M GONNA call him till he dies John off a building or fucking Ab- is I gotTa Lotta Shit for for that. I was twenty three four came out. I made this statement I e I said you don't hang up that phone to the customer buys or dies and it got printed in Forbes magazine and it was all really I mean it was a lot of ships is is a magazine for greedy fucking light. I WANNA make money so to say that fucking statement. It's going to sell anything shoes my sister-in-law call me last Tuesday two weeks ago and she's like I'm getting a job now. My sister-in-law and her daughter good so don't get confused that southern drawl take yourself. My niece is a number one sales on those people that come to the Alpha Vacuums Kirby no the other one when your house burned down your grandmother had cancer and she dies they gotta clean the wall. You know she'll come over and sell your painter like my niece again saddened drawl and she puts a bound on you know not registered since your eyeballs out show rip your fork on walls out and now the mother is out there in the workforce and she's making Appointments Flora fuck ensure nothing more deadly than mother daughter team so she's making appointments so she call mentions. I'm having palm at work. Can you help me out. I call it what set fucking guy that we all learned from. What's the salesman? The first one we zig ziglar exotic is great example was great. Oh Zig Ziglar was the motherfucker motherfucker eighth grade so I call Zig Ziglar so again. She's got the record of <hes> ratio the appointment to close she's breaking the records and appointments but these fucking gent the Hausa bussing a boss. You got a lot more action into your into your pitch and she I go you reading from the pitch and she goes yeah I always read from the page and I had my own stuff. I said you're breaking the office record. She goes first month. They can't deal with me. She goes. I made one of the other girls quit. She thought she was hijacked and Blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and I go fuck themselves as long as you're selling who gives a fuck what you do Nigga. That's my world. You gotTa keep fucking sat one. That's what they teach that the number one rule of a fucking boiler room more is you're gonNA call him to hang up or they die or they buy buy. Why do you think certain people are <hes> legs natural for them because it's not natural for me that that makes me uncomfortable the selling communication? Vacation what makes you uncomfortable. People convince somebody of something no not even just convincing but when when they say no like okay I don't WanNa bother them. Believe the the idea of of cell until they either buy or die. That's how do you become a good self. Camera trained sales. Listen Hunger makes you become hungry. You know listen. It starts with desire bowel right if you don't have the desire then this not for you but if you have a desire anyone can can learn to close but you have to want it. You have to listen. You're not company that you know what my suggestion to you is don't be in sales but still but that being said you still have to know how to get your point across as you move to the world you live disempowered life so it's not and you don't convince someone of a buying a fucking vacuum cleaner but what about you having problems getting laid and we'll let you go knows what it is. You have to convince people of things every fucking day negotiation I the toughest seller ever closes my wife seriously right to hunt down. I was like I was like almost total a stalker with our okay and it was pretty close. It's like a fine line. You know what I'm saying but the point is is that you know it's not just selling. He's talking hard sales right sale. Selling is in everything you gotta be passed a cell in your congregation a lawyer selling a jury a teacher selling the kids on the value of education a mom and dad sell them their kids on the value make and sell them materia guys. Everything sales is everything you know. Every winter yes Ariza from the Rats Terry tells us how he broke into Hollywood without his ability to communicate and sell them persuade never been he's a brilliant guy here. Take ten brilliant people with the same same level of talent. You know who's going to win out. The Guy who can communicate sell explain his ability to close too so what's what's the value so I think you have a negative Ankara toward selling you can confuse that if you don't want them differently think of his communicating effectively. I'm not negative about it. I wish I was better at it but the can get better at it. Well then the what do you. Why do you think you guys came so naturally to because some people natural born close? They're all every every Joey deandre Jordan Belva what there's a million people who struggle with but the beauty is is that you can teach anyone to become a successful salesperson right. I'm not saying that to make him into me or him but I promise this I get any person that wanted and make them good enough so it doesn't hold them back in life. That's the point it's I was a pussy about it at first. I didn't like it. Either I listen I. I think that I would be lying. If I said that I loved rejection. The anyone likes rejection but to me e I reframe it. In my head is a game all right. So the first day I went out I was trained and then meet business. I watched the Guy Knock on fifty thousand strikeout and the guy put his head down and lost his State of certainty and I'll never forget that I really impact me and I I would for me. It was like a bum knock on doors picking no one's by I am just fucked is I am not going to fucking stop for my own personal fucking standard until I get someone I know that look at it this way right if I know my ratios and if if I make two hundred calls in overtime you keep track right I make two hundred calls a day close ten people making up a number right so every time someone says no. I just made money because I know what that's worth paying for nosy. Yes it doesn't matter. It's a numbers game name. I've been you understand. I'm wondering as well thank you. I'm like hey that's fucking saying no. You're just made twenty bucks off you. It doesn't matter who if you said it's a numbers game sales. That's what people don't get. He'll sales this at fucking his. You know what time should Castro Paul from the ocean. The more people you get a catch so to speak right now. Obviously you have to also had a close the all right because the worst what happens if you don't have to close. Here's what happens to a lot of people right is that if you can't the worst thing for any human being is to try to play say that number is gay but eat when you get someone who can who will buy. You can't fucking close them then what's the point of doing it but when you have the power and you know you possess the ability to close anyone who's closeable. That doesn't mean you close everyone you close anyone's closeable. You'LL WANNA Bangla because you know every single time you pick up the phone where they say you're making money. That's the point I had a friend. You know we're all eighteen. Everybody wants to go out and get a piece of every time he went out. He got a piece wash right yeah. That's a that's would destroy ultimate sell everybody would go home with the head down and this guy would always leave with some fucking skunked that was ready to fuck into next day he'd show up with Polaroid's and a lighter up his ass. You know it was just and it wasn't even the best looking guy right no yeah it's unbelievable. I know it's not about that would be one night while enough is enough here. I am with a pocket of blow way lose this acquaint his fucking savage but he's over that closing with a quarter around coq with a quarter grandma coke in this Baabda. He's closed the hottest bitch and the ball and I started shadowing him and he would he would come out of his mouth was atrocities against Milosevic. What's it was like he could they could they would've thrown them in jail next to fuck in the worst people but he didn't fuck around and his percentage was higher when he got drew with them? They fucked them because is he let them know right from the start and I would hear him. Listen Man. She's on Yoga talking to this fucking Jordan Guy. Will you crazy. I don't know how to my buck. I put a rocking ass own. Suck it up and faces would turn Pale and next thing you know they would be getting that person's and leaving aw they were telling me was pay and walk away from it and then all night he would send him drinks and apologized to him. He had eight of them working at one time. One of them was gonna go home home with their three bitches and all of them the opening numbers game all of them he would tell them my co on Clinton. I want to put ourselves in your pussy and suck it all their faces but he didn't give a fuck he was closing. He closed Kabar. They knew they were sucking his dick. There was no let's go home and listen to back racking. You know drink and tell each other stories. No we'll come in on my house of the fuck and I started doing it the first year it didn't work out too much people called nine one one this shit like that but now my percentages want and I don't mean to be rude you know when you're twenty four. That's what you live and voice to go out and pick up women and you know whatever have a good time but it was the same thing was what would he would come out of. His mouth was fucking and he needed cocktails though he was very shy but he was American well. Nothing's been fucking quite that we used to encourage pills. Oh please please those things would sink in. They'd be tremendous holding you could do anything before we get to the gorilla biscuits when when you go to Hawaii and you learn Hawaiian Campo de teach you a punch right I'll say okay you're gonNA pointedly in the in the head but before they teach you how to punch him they teach you how to strike him in the head with the collies thick then they teach you how to stab him. The final move is the punch okay so you learn off what three phases of that move you went from selling door to door and the beach because and then you went you went from belly to belly sales my and then you went into a boiler was the difference now between those two yeah well. There's no difference guys like you but shocked will i. I was in the meat business then. I heard this was going. Downhill wasn't working out right because I made a lot of mistakes. It wasn't what I was just my first time as an entrepreneur and what happened was my friend had said Allah hard mail when people are making money on Wall Street and he wanted to get a job there ron what year is this is nine hundred eighty six and now and what happened was. He said to me yeah they a well. What do they do because they get wealthy? People give the family right yeah wealthy people to give the money and I assumed zoomed so what are you going door to door. I thought you'd be knocking on people's doors as I was trained in door to door sales. He's like no no they call on the phone. I'm like House that I couldn't imagine it. When I heard about it I was like what do you mean you use? Call call on the phone. They send money. I was like no fucking way. I was like he goes yeah. That was a very casual conversation that was it then all business went down and my car got repossessed and I heard a story about a kid. In the local area. I grew up bayside queens right who's allegedly making a million bucks a year on Wall Street and he was like the fucking door grow that guy's making a million dollars a year and I about a week that I ran into the guy pulled up in a Ferrari tonight sue the hot chick. Only I want the the chicken suit to fucking car and I said Michael What do you do. He goes on in a broker always tell him to last year two million and I said to myself well. You probably said to yourself that. Fucker can make a million make ten. That's what I said to myself and I went down to wash the next day and answered and a big firm it will hiring l f Rothschild the night sold myself job but that was the first time I walked into a Wall Street board. I could not believe first of all the language the cursing the Shit Fuck Miami it was unbelievable and also they were actually calling people up randomly from all over the country that they'd never met before and on a phone call people would send in a million dollars. It was the most shocking thing to me that it was suspension of discipline. It would not have believed that if I didn't see it with my own us. That was how how it was going on. So when I saw it was like for a moment I said well. Oh Wow that's it'll be better even door to door but then I saw the power of the numbers you can hit on the telephone and I re hit me and I washed these guys do it and I was very fortunate. I was sitting at my desk. I was training me was a really good salesman this Guy Right Mall Canada and Klay Matthew mcconaughey and the movie and and I heard him selling holy that guy's good and I hear that Guy Sucks right and I and I had this ability I knew it so I was so sure I was a break directions on Wall Street is a broker and then my first day was black Monday. When the market crashed November seventeen October nineteen ninety seven and went down five hundred points the firm shut down? I was and that was that was the beginning of everything thanks so now. When did you want the firm shot? Sh shut shut down. When did you go start selling a boiler so theoretically that was boiler I was it was a prestigious firm with phones in one room? There's no difference it was just same thing that we're doing the exact same thing as any other phone base room except they had a a fancy name behind the but it was no difference right so massive outgoing telemarketing leinen brothers doing it massive outgoing telemarketing opening from one location guys on it was fifty one when I was in fifty screaming yelling go wild same exact shit right and then I went and I saw when they shut down I throw and at first I left my book your book the Roy those I went to another firm for a few days in Jersey your guy the guy you know I walked into this place. I was like what the fuck is like a mob on buckle and I worked for three days and I left they heard me pitch once and they were so astonished that when I opened up my mouth to sell because I was like eight billion times better than any guy in the room they will. They may be stop strouss. Maybe I'll tell you the stock solve some stupid comfortable Panther Mountain water park up on the fucking great gorge area it didn't even exist probably all right and they would just take in this Republican enemy always a penny stock right and I wrote the script is selling the guy named me stop and goes everyone listen to how the sky cells and the next day I left I couldn't I knew something was wrong. Israeli fucking not tight and I went to work at a small allowance firm called the Investors Center and that was where I walked her be pitching to say as you saw in the movie saint thing they'll look what the fuck are you doing at a certain way of selling right and and the rest is history now all slow down if you will but then you know it's the movies pretty accurate like that. And how long did it take you to go. Series Sevens I._R._A.. How my series seven 'cause when I worked at Rothschild I was studying? I work for six months. Call calling and I had my sister seven yeah. What did you think about co calling Ark Yellow or calling D._N._B.'s Dun and Bradstreet and so we just lists of names of people that have invested already known of business that owned businesses would do it back then it was doing it excess of a million dollars in sales so it was business owners and you just cold call three hundred make three to four hundred dollars a day and back then believe it or not I couldn't even wasn't licensed and I had to say hello? I missed the hand holding and passed the phone. He'll so for me that was like fucking Chinese water torture. You know to like not be able to speak and I just listened to everyone else and I was just running all the language in my head. I can't wait to get this. I'm GONNA fucking kill. I knew it you know and then when the market crashed it was like all my dreams with Dash like a Microsoft. I couldn't believe it that day that it was unreal it really. It was unreal. It was the but the reason why I said November seventeenth. I'm sorry is because I got arrested. November eighteen eighty seven before the market crashed and I was sounding cars at that time where I was selling cars in boulder at Subaru dealer was like stealing right okay I went from detailing caused to someone 'cause I took the bus and it was that's when I became a salesman because after that market crash everything died and there was only two people selling 'cause it was me and this guy named storm normal. Let that was a fucking savage. He was in the halfway house at the time I hadn't been arrested yet and I still remember him telling me decent anything funny on my body me going no and he would put a hot water bottle in his he would scotch tape his mother's douchebag those hot water bottles rubber ones rebel ones and then he would have the valve and just the same thing that come out of his Dick because he was snorting coke all day the dealership so he could put the fucking fake pissing that you would pay like twenty five bucks with this. If you were clean like he would get it from. He finally talked this Christian guy like the Christian guy with Tom Doll now. I'm a Christian leave me alone. You finally put them together. Is The guy was just a salesman and that was the first time I started looking at people. What the fuck are these guys doing but before that there was a guy named Ardi Pressler from the Bronx and he was was killer he was a psychological salesman killer? You know don't ever let the customer right down the credit APP you fill it out for them. I want them to tell you their life story so they get used to you fucking asking them creepy questions. He just had little fucking details and I loved all those things and yeah wanted to be an attorney but this art this thing of fucking selling had my dick by the balls now interesting Matthew McConnell Hey did another movie is called one for the money then a thought it was about these Guys Aka Stu finer out of Long Island and Mike Duffy that sell sports information on the phone it was <hes> Pacino and Matthew mcconaughey and their real name or the slopes. I went to one of my long island. I worked with him well. I forget what part of Long Island they will. There were from web of Seinfeld was what they all went to the same ice Jericho high schools. We're all we all went to that same high school. Whatever there was something in the water a lot of guys came from south try acid whatever the fuck and they were they? I fallen salesman that sold sports information. What year was this <hes>? I I got on a prison eighty nine Massapequa Massapequa and I went to work for them from eighty nine. That's when stratton was surprised. Prices Ninety two selling sports I hate now is the prime of Stratton and we were call people join. I don't Joey Dea people. Tallow is my name People Tallow Colorado Sports Advisors. Why are you making out in the gambling? Go Oh fuck yourself man calling back. Listen stop knocking off your fucking taking a beating you fucking sports betting big now big now now. I'm thinking of doing things because now that's what and the only reason why they make a huge is so you could go back to work back at you are GonNa Tournament to Hedge Funds. That's what they're all. Which sports gambling right did you hear that now? They're going to put Him New York so they can do hedge fund on gambling so you don't even know who you're gambling on. They placed bets for you some Shit Oh shit that's where they're going with legalized gambling than just but to make a long story short I was. I was not approached directly. There was a chitter chatter going on in my own town about a guy who was making a million dollars a month son stocks. I knew about stocks how I knew about you know pornos. I know nothing I knew nothing and I kept hearing the Django. I'm Sellin coke. I'M ROB and drug dealers put but I keep hearing the jingle of these guys are making money but now they had often opened the office in Miami. I go to Colorado and I'm hearing fucking horror stories. Ten guys are going down there. At a time and ADA coming back to they weren't ever rehabs then you just went and talk to your priest rabbi the devil inside of me. I can't stop snorting coke uneaten. Quayle it's probably knew about the worst part is what you do when you're high on cocaine. Slow things that the accident you commit. Oh my God. I can't stop coke and do comedy but you give me a line of coke and you give me a pitch catch. You give me up. I'll be smart and calling people in the morning doing have you heard of the Kennedy says topics and then solemn come back to the finger in the as so you get your series seven licence win this the money start pollen. This is eighty seven now eighty eight the market crashes right. I start in eighty eight is a broker for the company and I that's the sense I broke the record straight how much money we make sure seventy thousand eight thousand a month in the beginning thousands of broker and then after like the Fifth Fourth Month <hes> I started my own firm so about six months since I was approached after thirty days by a guy who said hey you know you the best salesman I've never heard a strain or salesman sales already helping him transom sales till there because dude let's go partners you know and then <hes> he took it to see a lawyer lawyer in great neck right and went with him and and to this lawyer and after the liquid you need this other fucking. I you know more than this guy's already been business and failed once much fails. You'll learn how to do business. I have really learned my lesson about how to start. A business is in Brooklyn. So I made decision to start my own brokerage firm. When I was very young and the beginning I was selling petty stocks right the average MOMS and pops Nike with an idea and the idea had was to cross what I'd seen on Wall Street with sm not any BA five dollars stock so it was selling five dollars stocks to the richest? One percent of Americans who was happening was on Wall Street. They will call corner rich people and in these little firms like that you knew about him in Miami deba call average people with little or no money but selling them twenty cents stocks. That's five hundred bucks right so I'd watched guys bringing millions so I can have this middle ground of going to the millionaires but selling them five dollars stocks and and <hes> it worked so well when I am a house I invented a system for training salesman called the straight line and allowed me to take all these young kids who couldn't close what House I one Guy Junior. Danny was trained. I'm greg closer. All the guys could not close which people in twelve guys I tried. Everything didn't work in my came up with this new way of training people about a close it just was like it was such a profound difference that I can take any person and make him into a killer salesperson then that was it then the next month they made a made. I think probably four or five million bucks next month went from like it went so fast that went from making a million dollars a year to make fifty million within six months so well. How does it work so for for the people working for your firm? Do you get a percentage of their commission so there's there's two ways that you make money really three but simple simply put. Let's say a stock is trading at six dollars. Okay right and the bid is five and the offer is six that one dollar is called the Spread Right the Sofa broker sells ten thousand shares at six that sixty thousand dollars and that can thousand dollar gap is the potential commission so you'd split that fifty fifty keep five the Brookwood Cape Cod but what the broker didn't know is I had to stop. I owned it at two dollars. So I made three dollars below. The bid that was mine hundred percent was mine if I traded right so I had a supply of stock so the idea is how do you get a supply of stock cheap right so just because the stock imagine you buy million shares of stock. It's too and you hold it and the stock goes up to five you gotta three million dollars potential profit and you have to be able to sell it when I invented the straight line system I could get these young kids to sell to they would call millionaires that sound like geniuses and they could close them so that before they could they couldn't regular sale system so that was like the sort of great equalizer allow them to be as powerful as the top walls. You broke his terms of persuasion so once that happened it just went ape show crazy because all these kids who would have been working at seven eleven became master sales people and they will make millions of dollars making a million a week it was just crazy and it just grew and grew and grew and and it was fucking insane when the when did you start going personally crazy owing. When how old were you when you in twenty seven twenty six so I seventy was to let's say Oh yeah yeah listen? I the really good family. My parents were amazing. You know amazing people it wasn't it wasn't like I was raised that way any stretch I was raised the opposite you know I think for me. It was that I went into my adult <hes> with a Lotta like wounds from my adolescence that I said if I just get rich man I'll have bucket I sort of play on every adolescent fancy ever had and I was so good at closing and training others as good as I was selling. I was even better training others to close. That was my real gift. Even selling that was easy but training others and that people started call me the king and I couldn't handle it. I was stupid you stop believing your own bullshit. When you're young all right? I mean now. I'm a little older hopefully and it just you know all of a sudden every girl wanted to fuck me and and it just it just was it was very difficult for me at twenty five or twenty six years old that much power our and also. I think that you know what happens is a lot of people. You probably see this in Hollywood. Is that when you're on when you're struggling to get rich if you not feeling good inside you'll like okay well. Let's okay because you know I don't have what I want right now. When I get rich and have everything they don't feel good so you could make sense of insecurity that you could make sense of not feeling great about yourself but what happens when you get everything you ever wanted? Lifetimes a thousand and you still feel like shit inside them. What do you do? That's what the fuck it real panics. That's and then entered quayle's cocaine in fucking mass amounts of eating bed s because it makes me to animal when I I'm a I'm a Jekyll fucking normal really am. I'm thank God him sold for Twenty Plus Years Right. I love my wife to death. She's the Best Eric raise one of the war right. You give me a fucking able God knows what the Fuck I will. I'll be an all fucking whore all house eating a helping their period because I'm fucking sick and and by the way anyone coke knows what I'm talking about. It's not a mockery you know Joe. It's something wrong with the drug and makes you a sexual fucking deviant and I I loved it and I fucking love him all the time punching making them pugh swallow you calm when I was right on it. I don't I don't have anything Buke. That compulsion doesn't exist. Send me that does not but when I do oh it's like really I don't know what the fuck it is and I thought to something wrong until I was what else is doing the same shit when they're on it. It's crazy like people get tied up those hair women. I WANNA be choked small talk. There was a chick ACIS NOCCO Quin Aspen. I had to be twenty three. She was like twenty nine. I would come on the table when she would. I would make it sucked up through a Straw disgusting. I had a friend come on fee pay hookers ten thousand shit neglect stable while the look on his fucking Dan the fucking life. I had a friend that came to me and ninety four. I looked them straight in the face. You still banging dangerous out that I make them. Jerk Irk me off with their feet. He was I can I can understand driving and making perfect sense. It miss a beat. That's why wasn't lying makes perfect sense. The when did all that what you did all that nineteen ninety star and start start it started ernest in one thousand nine hundred ninety and how many years of madness was seventy seven seventy eight eight years eight years is calming either deliver eight yes. Ah Yes kilo the same Brad guys getting right from the airport pure right there at that time but my big thing was cuevas I literally singlehandedly cleaned that every country of pharmacy we will go every country its brand platelets right so when the when U._s. made them illegal in the late eighties early late night seventies right so when I was in college they were illegal but you still gone but you get drunk for sleeping you know in the seventies right. They made them illegal but they swept it took a lot of the supply but you still had out there for like a few more years than by eighty four most the real ones are gone but you could still get like met the seals from Switzerland Paladin Burma from Spain you get Norman knocks from Germany mandrakes Wrexham's. I know I shouldn't call Paris Blues. Ill Paris four hundred a while Paris laundries in every type of quayle had its own little formulation so some of the what's this. What's this acquiesce to one yeah get real? No way opened up. I'll tell you the second one. This guy's got to fucking pay there you go. What I've been is that my is? What does the Laura that's still on the F._B._i.? Swarmed Cosby knew the agent. He threw me the last three of them really that that's a that's a <hes> my clothes Gazebo. What do they call them a placebo opposition bow with fucking explaining Oh my God oh yeah three of them I honestly I'm sober firs twenty? I'll take one right now. I don't know if you gave me a real lifetime me up so Congra- Damage Mitch because you want to get our get phone nights they call the phone is because I wanted to call ever I love you. I love she unplug all the phones in my house my ex wife man I love you. I love you when I got this. There were three of them four. My wife had the baby one of them one Friday night just just after the after she passed out eight one and I was on so much refresh. I didn't even know what it was. I didn't know what it worked. I love the model of the fucking bottom. CHOOSE TAKE A to your off. It's not necessarily mind that's so what is this thing though what's in there. It's a it's a placebo. Whatever look at it but it's perfect really? It's a dummy but it's perfect. It's one of the nicest gifts I've got a Rolex watch. I want this so it's that's a you taking the time awesome by so now when he showed everybody does this is vintage by the way so these this this label deep trouble because I had this experience of the call crashes right way I took narrow expires. They were delayed fuse. fucking dislike lost my shit yeah. How many what's the most you ever did in one night? Well I went through a really dum in the daytime into like I saw watch the movie. You don't all talk. I would take four in the morning before I'll get up at like six A._M.. Before my wife so I could get my first high go up and down before she fucking woke up at I got really bad I was probably doing twenty two a day two thousand twenty two and he's funny funny. How these fucking the opiate epidemic for seventy nine we really biscuits? I remember giving my buddy a quail and tell them be campway's. At this and a ten speed yeah I saw the fucking Venkat tractor and a cracked up pence Larry's in Alaska was you didn't really felt coordinated right. You thought you thought you had if you had together you did and it'd be like just fucking bouncing off walls but what they would do because he breaking his own. I must just a really taken a fucking fall because turn rubberized a bit like you could bounce fucking walls. You wouldn't get hurt that I'll tell you what I remember long L. A. New York allow expressway right on Sunday Mornings Club called infinity and that it was a fucking crazy nightclub back then with matching fucking upstairs or just nuts you see lines of cars smashed up on the highway on Sunday morning ever came on lewd sticking they could drive and just destroy their fucking cause of that when did you you start feeling the heat I e C came now S._e._C. Axiom S._e._C. Azis S._E._C. Yesterday's Exchange Commission. They came at me early in like ninety three ninety four and I sat with them and then <hes> the F._B._i.. Came in after <hes> and because of money had smuggled Switzerland now in the movie you invite the federal to your boat Nia is that you know they just may okay yeah. Now's the good CEELO. That's a great yeah. That's something I would. They want it because what I would've I. Would've you just said it phone. I you know I'm the type of mother to quayle's Quality F._B._I.. Is Investigating that the purpose that seems because you know the the thing was a Coleman's a friend of mine the agents a friend of mine's a guy and we speak all the time right and back then we had this parallel he chased me for like seven eight years but we never never saw does not in the in the for the movies much better if we get it was a meeting in the middle of May increase the tension so and then <hes> when did you get arrested nineteen ninety eight September to come to the house and the kids are not at all. They're incredibly respectful to incredibly respectful <hes> I was my I let the House with my door. It's you WANNA go to blockbuster video blockbuster back that right and as I <hes> was pulling out there was a car outside my gates and this a some woman goes excuse me do you know well where the road is and I was like <hes> none of that another guy was getting kidnapped and it shows all stop now from the F._B._I.. Just listen you probably want to drive back in and drop your daughter home. I was like Oh okay well. I appreciate that and I went they just they follow mandated. Polity guns nothing they walked in listening run arrest and <hes> just coming into office and I just walked in there and they just they came in a lot of them in house that did not pull guns Duffin. Who is your bow ten million? How did you shouldn't side today's and then I'll tell you got sentenced all day long time few years where you were you? Broken out now wasn't broke but there's nothing worse worse. I rather been broke and gone to jail the next day then the slow descent into fucking hell. That's the worst possible like the worst part was into a few years. You know it doesn't happen quickly. You know wheels of Justice Grind. They tried to prosecute me quicken. That's very that's very rare. I kept playing with fire and attorneys and took a long time and that was like the slow descent into like and you couldn't restart your life eighth and it was pretty foul. Once I got out it was like it was just right back up. When did you realize you were going in at one point you do from day one? You were going yeah. I know it was. What was your attorney telling you? There was no time time you know but I hope was your first offense nonviolent INA and <hes> so I had to a few years you know and the and you know we have this you know I got I got four years but the deductions to the drug program to go through and anyway will qualify but the drug program was newsbeat. Everyone's trying to get into that like I like Tayla major right so I went to the drug at eighteen months off like that good behavior and <hes> and when I got out you know so when I was very fortunate because as you as you know his friend sitting here <hes> Tom Tommy Chong was my bunk mate from cheech and Chong. We've they put us on the scene within the same cell together so I got the jail on Tommy's awesome dude should have on your pockets. You came on you really smart right clean-cut right so we told you the stories and had them roll on the floor and you know by the Third Isaac Dude. I thought you were full of shit but my Google June. It's all true you gotta write a book as I really like you know you don't put your own. Life is not like what he'd be. It's really I thought everyone song yachts crash planes into eight billion drugs and made a lot. My how crazy is that right. Nothing happened to me if I told my story I know I did was cracking jokes. Not them what's happening because I thought that everybody else had delivered papers. I thought everybody else sold. I am at the beach with twenty five bucks. I thought it was just a regular guy me too well. I was in regular. I mean we we don't we were insane but I just I guess I you know when you're living it. You become desensitized your own insanity right. I remember this this moment in my life and probably nineteen ninety six when I was living in old Brookville beautiful at the Gold Coast nicest area in the World Right Mansions everywhere at a mansion and then my my wife in in a car and we'll like driving around like they must old deludes right. Everyone's doing losing coke the you don't think anyone could live go through life sober when you when you like that like I buy some everybody else was doing when I was doing and to think back pretty laughable but that's what you do so when Tommy said to me you know I've never heard of anyone. Living the sort of life like you've lived as like lots allocco from Tommy John so that gave me some so I started writing and Tommy will help me gave me a couple of pointers and I fortunately was able to crack the code for writing I taught myself to write and I started writing and then people liked it and then <hes> Leo and Mardi a- As soon as the book was done the rest is history the wolf of Wall Street now control the story but horrendous movie out. I'll tell you something incredible about Martin Scorsese that you can't quantify the final put your finger on it but somehow he created movie that will go down to ever. It's a generational movie and I don't think anyone we always right because Leo is the one who attached himself to it and was liles. Passion Project Liles at me. Just just trust me Buddy Mardi has to e need Mardi to direct this. There's a lot of other Ridley Scott Lord of the Rings. I was getting frustrated. As Moi's slow you know there was many many years I sold them the book in two thousand and sixty two thousand six and at the end two thousand right and it was like it takes forever and he's like just trust. Let me at Mardi ever he was right. I mean Monty was able with Leo Forces Wells brilliant but he's got a special talent for a linguist story. I think what it is is that he doesn't tell a story with judgment the one thing I hate about the moves. I'm sure you hate this to everyone but you're right. I don't WanNa be fucking moralize. Don't tell me how I should feel when I watch something. Let me fucking watch it and come on conclusion. I don't WanNa morality tale all right. Just tell me what happened. Let me draw the morality from it and Monte put it up on screen as it was the better or worse without you know in some sort say Glam yeah he didn't glower it was glamorous. It wasn't glamorizing it was glamorous and that's what he did and also is darkened discussing and he put that up to actually I enjoyed about the movie the most it's Real I enjoyed the movie. I really put it up. There were good fellows. I must tell me what's my favorite part of. That movie is he took me there. I I had to go to the bathroom and do bong hits. It's an take a half of xanax. He took me reminded me of my own of that. You know I told you that I had the same yeah they came they said do you want to sell him the phone. I mean oh I was going to give it a try but when I went down and looked and felt it didn't feel right something it just didn't feel right. It felt like it was to fuck and easy and it was I find it difficult to understand the world the way it is. I think it's fucking crazy was happening last five years with this world all the political correctness and shit like I don't know. I just think that it's a it's a lot worse than it was in terms exit the for as it is but I just think it's ridiculous was going on right now. With all of a sudden every word has to be watched that you say everyone's fucking sensitive and everyone everyone's being you know metoo whatever to hang is just gross immigrant yeah and I'm GonNa get immigrant that face New York City my parents immigrants and the less you know you're France and Russia Jewish but yeah but free French and Russia. I thought that I'm Cuban and when I came him first my mother said to me and sixty six or sixty eight one time we got the P._S.. One on sixty six is like looking at United Talk English outside the House and she got talk Spanish. I don't want you doing that meet a meter routine down. I don't want them to look at years week ago. I started thinking about this great. It lies much sticking up and nobody not politically felonies. I do not WANNA fuck in go to jury duty. I'm not sticking up for anybody anything. In particular I was growing up on. I swear to God up to eighty five however eighty six. If I was at a cafe and you your mother would talk in Israeli for more than five six minutes in New York somebody would come up to you can go English yeah and you will go. I think the but do whatever the fuck you're saying they will go back to your fucking country. I mean it was well known in New York now I again. I think that I was just a statement in New York. It's misunderstood. It's misunderstood. It means. I didn't get offended. Let's I just say go back to your own country. That's doesn't I I love immigrants. We all but come legally and also appreciate for being here but I don't want anyone to leave and go back. If you hate the country you should leave the country. Why the fuck should you be? If you'll love the country then you get the fuck out and go back to your own country but not because anyone that anyone I don't care what color you from if you want to be here and love this place for me my doors open in my house but come here and enjoy this country and everything has to offer but you want to come here and eight on this country. Get the fuck out. That's my point. I don't care what you what everyone should be welcomed by. When you come you should you should learn to speak the language okay? You should pay fucking taxes. You fucking be really bothers me the way they depress twisting the message because Nelson Trump says stupid shit. I'll say he mis phrases himself sometimes but he doesn't that has meaning is clear is that he's not saying that people who Lau- who love the country which should leave the country if you hate this country. Why are you here era very different? I think all immigrants the right to come here legally a right and I walked with my parents immigrants but you know it's just it's something odd is going on this very hard. I'm not sticking up. This is very strange going on right now. I'm not sticking the trump was no. It doesn't mean that I'm just saying that. He says stupid she makes mistakes. He says I didn't take it personally day and I know it doesn't mean that right exactly six here in that state it's been nipped related by the press for political reasons okay and you know he's he said the unfunny comic trump anyone else can say what he says it. It'd be okay. He says it just drives people crazy. I think at some level he's doing it on purpose to fun. At this point he just looking to push peoples. GotTa be at this point. He's looking to do it because I'm like. Oh my God I mean you're GonNa really full for this shit that he that he said you really get a reaction control. The news cycle again that stupid that you really to write about this. It's obvious he just says shit and they just go nuts and like it's like stupid. At this point yeah it reaches clubs. Are I just to me the numbers that were thrown out in the movie. We're just so mind blowing. I I'm not a fan of trump personally but can you explain the power that that amount of money gives you like when you were on the plane and you've got tied down like like maybe not even for trump but just like what amount of money will do it. Doesn't it doesn't okay. It's a misconception. It gives you gives you power to a dozen gives you power that I could fall down and pick me back up. It gives me power if I break a small law that can by Moi out with great attorneys all right but when you you know nowadays nowadays especially we live in a different world. I don't care who you are. You know the big you on the gun for you right now. Everything you did becomes all I have a lot of close friends than the last year's been really they've taken major falls from grace's but things they've done or allegedly done thirty years prior and I have a problem with that all right and I have a daughter who I loved it that too but I have a problem with people being choose to things in an approval from thirty years ago and it was just gross disgusting and it's not fair. It's on America. That's why I say whatever I did. Thirty isn't GONNA put it out. I don't give a flop whether it's robbing one time I wanted to carve. I was ten and love Calva grandma blow a month. I just went to shoot the many saints of Brooklyn and I was in <hes> Ridgewood Brooklyn. Oh shoot and as I went in they had a fucking Carbel that Abe Lincoln Winter I think when he was in New York that for a short stint I I mean for somebody else. Would I saw that they would have gone crazy. My Dick got hard my dick out hard and the next day look at this fucking car. Look at this carve out. Wow it's a shack in Ridgewood right that now it's not even it's not it was like three blocks before you get the original. It was fucking all so the next day I see a bank of America looking at from the side the next day I'm in my fucking trailer and I go off on my doing this trailer. Let me go take a walk on this Myrtle avenue and I didn't walk fifty fucking feet and what they're waiting for. Pop a brand new car val the new state of the art one and I saw two Chinese chicks in there making faulkner shakes them like I would have a problem 'cause they wanNA listen investment side the old guy with the missing foot where we were kids he had had the car because he loved the kid who fat won't kit loss tonight when he was eight from eating so much carbon. It wasn't an investment. It was all good now if you go to the Carbon Santa Monica and Culver City it's an investment you walk in there and you feel like you get raped for eighty for a call and then you go to the guy you from New York. I'm from Iowa. You don't have the right to sell though you gotta earn that right for your fight the part of Corona yeah you know there's just certain things so I went in man and I go the lady comes up to kind of help. You know me I opened up with a double cone vanilla chocolate and color with sprinkles crane. Oh Yeah I was telling them that I get a chocolate shake very thin and then dip <unk> eat it and that's how I grew up. There's a place in the village my daughter to call two gay guys. It's a gay is big ears creamy guys how good by the way they do the call I thought it was gonna be something in different throws me like scoop isis and also good by- guys walk in the fucking Carbel Buck and that's the bet at the owners again. It's like a fucking family thing family the people were there just like they're. They're fucking thing very. I want to go to line up around the block. A big is is eight hundred pounds four hundred buck and real thing it's on roller skates lost the foot the Diet exactly car on keeping God in spite of all matter exactly in fact I bought the milkshake I wanted a lodge and I looked at the weight watcher points faulk but it just got a small took three six out of and I threw it away but I did by two things of flying saucers just for the girls on the Senate trucks. Thank God on Easter softy Mr Softness Day right. It was my shit too so two thousand when you get arrested. When do you turn yourself in from three thousand three four when you come on two thousand was an and the two thousand five how you feeling ripped good shape I came out and really good shape and with and with a book two hundred fifty pages of a book I threw it away but I taught myself too right so I learned the <unk> skill while I was away and I came out and started writing? What were you thinking about the outside? When you came out while you thinking I will you were going to join us one of my kids now I didn't care about I'd never worried about that at all? And how old is your daughter. Let you speak now. She's twenty only six but she's the one from Jesus graduate from Grad School N._Y._U.. She's a really successful at my son's. A rapper mother sons businessman works for me. Forgive all together with the first wife too ause in the movie. She's my second wife. Okay I have to and then I have a a stepson with my current WHO's like my own son the same thing and so he works for me and I'm very all my my second kid is zero rapper hip hop and he's going to be famous. She's a really talented and she's awesome. All my kids are. I'm very very fortunate but for me. When I came out it was all about my kids I came out? I didn't speak to an adult probably for more or less for about a year I hold up in a little tiny apartment in Playa del Rey and no money and I slow writing that book and my kids would come over and they'd say Shh Daddy's writing yeah and I and I said to my daughter. I'm gonNA write a bestseller and become famous. You know I sat ducks. I never believed six hours. Scanner wouldn't finish inch tall wouldn't let her die. I said I'll never let my daughter down so I use it as a way to motivate myself especially what you told my ex wife and I really had to fucking do it right so as I have no choice but to finish this book that told my daughter I was going to be a famous writer. Because I was scared I would never finish I was so I did that to motivate myself and I finished a book about ten months but by the time I was on page twelve. I'd said that to an agent or just you know knew very casually read the pages like he looked he said did you right these yourself. I was like Yeah said Holy Shit. He thought Tom Wolfe had written them because I had modeled Tom Wolfe. I'd learned to write like Tom Wolfe Shirley's tried to and he goes right ten will pave zero ten more. I sent those pages he goes. Stop everything you do and you don't understand what's about to happen to your life. Name was Joe Gollar I said what do you not know it was this is GonNa be the biggest book Leonardo Cat rescue to play when modest 'cause I swear to God they said this in on page twenty two of the book I thought he was Adams Mind. So I just literally didn't work. I stay I hold up in my in his old apartment for about ten eleven months and I wrote twelve hundred pages and that and random house they sold it. I got it got bought by Random House right with at the thirty pages so I had money I had some money we used to live and <hes> I went through seven edits on the book to go from twelve hundred out the five hundred twenty eight pages and <hes> and yeah and as soon as the that magic was done the few the first guy to latch on wasn't Leo he was second Terry with her Ms Terry once Terry Though Sopranos Right and walk once he said I have to adapt his everyone Leo is like almost suddenly Oh came on board and Marty came on board and then then Kim the slow Mardi Hell because bodies the slow talk Dr Terry Terry. I just texted him today by the Salam. I say I love yeah. I said to texted. I forgot to turn he's an amazing. Terry's really sees writing this thing now. He's he's such a great writer. He took T._J.. Any wishes Che's book and re put it into. I have not read the script but I have heard the story Apple T._V.. Boil it so apple's been breaking his balls too much Fidel Fidel some shit's going to say about having Carey's his brilliance and over the years no ego he he loved my book and he took my book and somehow formulate ugly turned it into a movie script. He didn't try to make Terry Winters version of my book he took get and she's a brilliant guy with no ego and its first draft was perfect. The movie that you saw was like his first draft more or less it's unbelievable so and then Leo came on and once that happened that that was a unbelievable turning point in the movie in My life those once Leo and they all came on board was announced publicly that got blown out so then random house immediately exercise an option for a second book so I I wrote this to the book and then what happened was they green lit the move in two thousand seven than the writers strike it and it got delayed five or six years. I was devastated at the time because I said Oh my God. I tried to the best thing ever because what happened was during those five years I became wealthy again made back with money audience's speaking teaching sales around the world but time the movie came back around Leo Canes. Here's what happened. Did you get Richie. I told them and they changed the entire Third Act in the movie how my comeback in there the first version didn't have my comeback. That'd we ended up in jail so they ended up with me on stage speaking I was so it turned out to be this unbelievable thing. I think the thing to learn that you could change your life story while they will make I changed my own life. Store US never too late to change the story. You put one foot in front of other work your ass off you. Don't you're a dangerous man and I it's funny. When I went to Wikipedia? You know I went to your website and stuff and not to embarrass you nothing like. Not It's not my style <hes> just saying this because this is how I feel I have you and I share certain bond and it was that it said celebrity net worth minus eighty million dollars. You like eh but what life doesn't know is that's how you want. It always been on the dog and you make it fact. The best work you do is when you're fucking under you like Joe. Montana in Dallas Dallas marched into San Francisco given a point at eighty two like we're gonNA fuck up Joe Montana Joe Montana's a bitch you coming into my house. You always live your life. It's your I'm lucky. I have a rich wife Ruby rich. She's my partner the potter she was rich before you now okay the potters right. I get what you say. No no no no really bought though I don't usually start my business and she put her money into start the business and and she works every day and and I'm very fortunate but she's brilliant so partners Yeah No. You're lucky been lucky mad motherfucking. I mean what I read all that stuff like I read about you for somebody mentioned you some live and and I did not read your book. I've seen the movie three or four times but I've not read the book now. You're GonNa Force me to read the fucking. I think you'll enjoy it's written in a way that you will love everything about you know it's in the voice you'll like it. You know it's with the crazy thing that anybody any shit now for what happened over those years with now. Could you did your time yeah. Did you saying now you. You look happy yeah now. Let's happy you don't bill you know. Do you really believe what you read in the newspapers. You know better than that. No no no no. It's all nonsense so I know when I got it prison. I felt we had for a while. I felt weird point so that's what I'm trying to get from you. What I'll tell they were is not that I in the beginning when I first went my life become public again and they would say things about me that I stole this money and it would make me feel bad inside it would because I'm a good person and I and I regretted doing I did and I got to a point will hey? I've done so much good in the world in the last ten years and helped so many millions of people but that's not doesn't matter offsetting but I saw two rows and no one gives a fuck about it. Is that a few journalists. That's it a few idiotic journals them keep by the way I appreciate the aiding you know why because it makes me a lot of money the haters because it increases my engagement online so all you fucking keep on hating me took board on because is what you start a compensation. My fans can react and then it creates engagement and boom. It's awesome so I don't resent it but here's the thing I made mistakes. We all make mistakes and you know it's what you do after you make mistakes. That's how you the fine I think I define my life life in a in a way that in a way that empowers many millions of people around the world and probably more than the hundreds of millions of people are empowered by my life store. Thanks to the movie and the work I do in terms of training and and and teach about entrepreneurship so I think that's the gift I give the world is that the movie's funniest grades awesome great sort of everyone but the gift I give the world is the ability to understand that that a way you are in life. It doesn't matter you combat as long as you want to work hard learn strategy. It's got to be strategy. Well Yeah. You GotTa know what to do right but if you want everything I move is strategy every fucking move yeah every time I leave the fucking house. It's thought out and it doesn't happen when people don't get that and of course whenever I see this as a person you would think that is at lock bucket strategy work and hard work the intersection of that and a little bit of luck in the hot. I worked look. You're lucky you get they. You go brother. It's been a pleasure my pleasure. I'd love to have a my show as well. I just wanted to and you'd be great. I love you to contact me and I go down there. We'll speak with. I live on the beach. You'll love it right on the ocean. Yeah you'll let down in Huntington. I took my family down N._F._l.. Fourth of July is weeks yeah and I love it down there. It makes you growing up in Jersey and New York every every impression you gotTa California's chicks on the beach or bikinis and then you get here and you find yourself living in fucking Hollywood and you never got the fucking beach until one day you go fuck this. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

39:00 min | 8 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

"Indeed a big night in La last night big Lakers win. Big Anthony Davis gets fifty and in the purposely. Is the question about what we're listening to right. There is why did he not have is twenty cut touches. He finally got it last night. Twenty seven times twenty three carries spore passes. This is out of the backfield so big night for Todd Gurley very quickly before we get back to the rams and everything else a very sincere. Thank you to everybody that came out on. It was a great turnout. Honestly I was thinking about as I was driving home. I am incredibly grateful that everybody shows up first of all because good for you guys thank you. Everybody stays ace. Yeah they stayed for four hours. It's remarkable absolutely love. Seeing everybody hang out on farm you were there early in their late thirties. Nobody left Nakas got fired air. Because you didn't go to work that day. Well hopefully hopefully you want to give you a ticket to the Christmas gain picture with at least got a There's been a disturbance into force. Oh shakeup at the top Look Dick's weeks from Travis. and L Z with a point seat each so that puts travis on top with eighty. One points keyshawn. Your fault a second look now nipping at your heels. He's right there to seventy seventy eight to seventy one. I'll still win in. Did you not consult your secret picker last week. Is that why you went back to just four points peak because you you're on fire for awhile the teams at a pick and no one thought that San Francisco would just go in there. I did in winter it up. You don't even the score. Forty eight forty six. No that's close enough. I'll give you a big. It was it was an extraordinary turnout on Friday. Thank you to everybody. That was out there for that. Very quickly you too. I got a I ran into somebody. There was a fan of the show as I was walking towards the press box at the coliseum last night he was taking his son his first ever NFL game. He is an avid listener. He listens every single day. So Bernard good to meet you. Thank you for listening. Hope you and your son had a great time at roll. Call fantastic. Yeah it was good. I went shopping in my onesie. By the way there's this show there's a pure one very close to rock and brews and I could drive back in town and fight traffic and try try to get to pure one to get the rest of my Christmas stuff or could've taken advantage of the pier. One right there with him on winning with my onesie say what time to the Quick Ron brands ran. I went on the freeway and I got on the Carpool Lane. Always do you know and I guess I missed the exit to one. One of the things got off and there was no there was like a four and a half five mile stretch of before an exit ten miles out of the way and I couldn't turn back around that stretch on the ninety one freeway. I know exactly what you get in the Carpool Lane. You better mean it. You're not you're not getting out for a while. That is a long stretch from basically corona all the way into like your Belinda humour. Finley in that car is so a big night for the Rams Twenty eight to twelve. This is called Out Right now. Do they get in. They went from having about sixteen percent chance to a twenty two percent chance three weeks ago. The Rams have the cowboys in Dallas the niners niners in San Francisco. Another primetime game on a Saturday night when they finished with Arizona. MINNESOTA COMES TO L. A. to play the chargers next week Monday night football against the packers and Minnesota and then the bears in Minnesota to finish the season. Does Minnesota lose one of those. Do the Rams Win all three. Because that's what it's going to take. I don't think the rams are GonNa win all three though. I just don't ah you know. The The Dallas game will be interesting. They should win the Dallas game. But you know Dallas all of a sudden Dallas. Who knows show up in act like they WANNA play San Francisco's trying to hold home court. So they they certainly are going to have something to play for. And you're going to San Francisco. Oh so that'll be. That'll be an interesting near in their last game is who you say. The Rams last game Arizona got that yeah so that I think they I think they go to and one I think they lose to San Francisco. They go to in one then. You need the vikings to go one. Two down the stretch Vica very unlikely they might stub their toe once. But I don't know if somebody's going to get him twice. I got a question for you. Guys we're ready for the question out of his chair. The three to get ready for America. I'm ready to go all right. I here's the problem. Yes I know that faith is the belief in something unseen who does good script. But what are you going to need to see. You're going to need to see three and or you're going to need to see one or two from Minnesota because you don't it doesn't have to be both of those things. Keep in mind if they finished with the same record. The Rams Tiebreaker they. They are in position to do that. But you can't drop one in Minnesota needs to drop one. It's the Minnesota piece like right now the way the rams are playing. I think we're going to go into Dallas game. You Go back to that game where they played San Francisco where they got it handed to them. They got beat up. They got pushed around that being said they. They weren't using Todd Gurley the right way. That was a key to leave and Marcus. Peters on defense that was a game with the final score was twenty two seven. Keep in mind this too. There was a pick. Six from from Cory Littleton that if he just holds on the ball walks in he dropped it. There was a past Gerald. Ever down the right side where he could've walked in jerk off over my ten yard. It felt like a beat down because it was but that was also one of those really dirty games at the rams. Could've snag and the rams or a lot better than they were three months ago I in San Francisco is a lot better than they were three months ago to. I mean if you look at the way they play the Baltimore Ravens you look out handed Green Bay their lunch. They go into into New Orleans in pretty much. Take care of business the way to teams go on the road in Windham you look at the Baltimore Game. They could have won that football game. It was it was a move blue water in the air but they could have won that game. Sodas they're playing a lot better than they did the first time that they saw rams so when I look at Frisco against the rams from the first time versus the second time that they plan I think San Francisco is a better football team all the way around. But there's also the the mentality as well key that I think is a different sort of place. Ace San Francisco came in here confident. They left confident. They continue to be confident. We didn't face confident. We were shaky. We weren't sure he'll be. Were offensively. Offensively defensively we weren't really sure we work because we have given up so many points already to the freaking Buchan ears so both sides of the football. We're in questions. People were questioning. Sean McVeigh The whole team into the game. As one big what's going on that's not going to be the scenario when they face. That's that's what you hope. You Hope it's not that scenario when you look at the rams against the Baltimore Ravens. They got manhandled video. I guess they confidence which wasn't shook me EH confidence. Because the way they got run down the field they needed in Arizona but they needed a Seattle to get their confidence back. Whatever confidence they lost at Baltimore more took from him they needed it and they got it back last night? I'm not saying that they don't get run out of the building in San Francisco but when you look at San Francisco on the way. San Francisco's playing right now. Jimmy Garoppolo is playing the quarterback that they envision a gay that money too. He just did last night he yesterday. He looked like a quarterback that was legit. The I think the biggest thing that you talk about with the rams being different when they play the forty niners in a couple of weeks relative to win they played them early in the season. The offensive line is better. I don't I don't know if it's a great offensive line but it's far better than it was then you go back to that game. That's when they were in terrible flux that Andrew Whitworth on the left tackle and really everything else was different than it is right now. You had Brian Allen in the game yet. Joe Nope woman the Game You had rob haven signing the game. All of those guys are gone with injuries. You add Corbett in because of betrayed you put Edwards in Evanston on the right side. You Move Austin Blythe from Right Guard to center and all of a sudden those guys have played together now for the better part of a month. They're creating holes for todd. Gurley Jared Goff's not hitting the deck. It's a different fivesome upfront. And it's not just that it's different. It's cohesive it's better. They may have gotten very lucky. Is the wrong word but they may have stumbled into something. That's going to work for them moving for you. We were to guess the Ravens Jared Goff Beta just stood back then waiting for it to come get him He held the ball too long and he didn't ask axiom. rottweilers are going to ask. A week's jared Goff has not been standing there waiting for the rottweiler to come get him the last two weeks. He's gotten abroad on quicker and he's been you're watching the front seven of the niners. Have you not been watching. What the Rams are doing? Now with Jared Goff. He's not just standing there moving. They're moving key. Daddy's football a lot. Quicker Vinnie did. I ran away from Joey Bosa. Nick Hey run away from Nick. He ain't gotTA stand and and wait for them. At seven is real. That game was played. Two months ago off it'll be two months in a couple of days. There are diff. I agree key that the niners anders are better. They're playing with confidence. The member what that opening drive was in that game. The Rams took the ball they took the opening kick on Went right down. The field scored touchdown remember. They did without passing the ball. Once they just ran ran it ran. It ran it right. Adam scored a touchdown and then hello. Sean McVeigh stopped. Doing and this was in that part of the season where it's like the hell is going on. Why are they not given the ball to todd? Gurley why are they not giving it to Malcolm Brown. Why are they not running the ball? After having success for reasons we can speculate about pitch. Count Health disconnect in relationship just desperation. Whatever it is that it has gotten them to this point? They're giving the ball todd Gurley now. They gave it to todd. Gurley in that first drive it worked it all of a sudden open that game up for them they looked like the rams and then they just decided to go away from it. I wouldn't expect them to go away from it again. I think it is a very different dynamic when they play them again. Well one of the things that they need to do they need to worry about. Dallas your in your about San Francisco. You're right. But they games Dallas Josie gear. It's still there right so looking ahead. Yeah but then I told you. Dallas Dallas is the type of team. They're not very good. But for some reason you'll get all of a sudden act like they wanNA play in. That'll be the game where you just fall asleep all of them and you look up and go damn dame. We didn't see this. Is Your right the fall asleep part though I think is they could show up is not a reasonable but how Tampa Bay Shoda. Yeah but the rams were asleep that we're not GonNa Sleep Rueda put on your thinking caps. Here let's a look ahead and see what Vegas is. What do you think? Stop Grow Up. Please What do you think the point spread is for the Cowboy Ram game for next week? I'll say that the rams are two point favorites. I'm going with four and a half of the rams rams three point favorite for the rams all the way across right Vegas there early. Line there early line. I'm looking at has cowboys favored by three. And a half the perfect four Wyoming saddleback. How do you still the Wyoming co-boys? Yeah but but you were saying this. Watch this game be a key when we both agree claiming cobbler. Are we have Jason Garrett. We agree with all that but yet still go into Dallas. Though is you know the teams like Dallas play bad and they looked on their grows. Get Him out fired a guy and then somebody plays them they get a heartbeat in somebody like Sam I mean like the rams come in heart starts beating faster. Everything's going to be hitting on all cylinders. Amari Cooper have a career day Zeki. Oh Elliott a rush for one thirty that press gotTa Be Twenty Nine Twenty Six of twenty nine I for two forty. Can I offer on her argument. Go ahead the cowboys wins. This year have come against the giants. The redskins the dolphins and the Eagles I get in in the lions. Those are the loss to the saints. Good team between the packers. Good team the jets dreadful dreadful the vikings good team Patriots. Good team bills. Good team bears mediocre as a Lotta else I get it but my team much like Vegas. I said that the points. I said that the rams will be favored Vegas says no but I also say at the same time that this can be. One of those games would a cowboys boys. All of a sudden they start beating. HFS Fill in different. I the last part of that agreement with the line with the cowboys. Cowboys are a public team. They're always going to get a ton of action and that's part of the perception of that number on the cowboys. Vegas don't know what they're talking about. They know what they know and they know how to take. Your money doesn't always necessarily the line. That's certainly background being right. Yes ma'am I'm saying Sir you read Uncle Role Tad Kirk Kirk next yet is it is a Monday morning. It's time to ask Kirk and Kirk. Let's start with the question. Was this any question in your mind at all the best win of the RAM season. But I won't tell Kirk Yeah Best Best one or two seasons. I think that we saw a lot in terms of the all fits obviously tiger early. Jared Goff but this was probably probably their best defensive performance I've seen all season long With all the changes that they may right When you think about the secondary Jalen Ramsey Choi Hill Taylor rap now taking a bigger role in the defensive line is really Underrated you know what I mean. We know about Aaron. Donald Dante follow a career year Klay Matthew he's still a lot left in a tank and then like me and you talked about last night travis. Sensitive can whenever the prime time games come on number fifty seems to play his best so okay. I was really impressed at a complete team performance. We look at it Kirk The Rams last night obviously took care of business the way that they were supposed through offensively jared goff got into a rhythm with the play action pass game but todd Gurley touching raw twenty seven times twenty three out of the backfield four in the air. Can they continue genius. This particular game plan moving forward into the Dallas cowboys into the San Francisco. Forty nine ers do. They need to scrap it and do something different. Asked Kirk No. I think that's the game plan right We saw last year. Verse Dallas in the Divisional Game We saw it a couple of years. Back which mcvay when this team really took the NFL by storm when they beat Dallas in Dallas That was the game plan. Talk early in the play. Action passes from Jared Golf. It's going to be the same way that they're going to beat Samsonov forty niners as well is really to me and I keep saying. We're Todd Gurley me. It's really not about the the yard key it's really just just about the touches He just has to be a threat. It's almost like I remember. I forgot what Super Bowl it was. But when Terrell Davis was in the game where you say like I could not barely see beat him just being a threat in the game allow John Elway. The you know half the play action passes get the ball down the field. And it's the same with Jared Goff. I mean if todd early then again you have to worry about him with check down game the apple worry about him breaking the long run and then you're worried about that. You're comes Robert Woods around the edge or Josh Reynolds on and around. And then Jared Goff can work the screen game so that to me. He can play action games so that has to be the game plan going forward. And I'M I. I think that this his team right now currently is better than they were. This time a year ago I think they're trending upward where the last year I thought they tend to stall out at this time of year. Kirk I have one question for you are the rams getting baby how to get mad. The you know what I think. Actually I question two weeks ago I probably say well we gotta wait and see but the way that I look at it right now To me each each game is a playoff game. I mean I to me. They got to win all three and even if even if they want all three of the they're still not a lot to get in. That's the crazy part so to me. I think that they get in because I think that they win the next three games. I really feel like you're starting to see some of the pedigree of what we saw team you know do last year going on all the way to the super bowl off excited to see how they play these next three. The only thing is now we got you need some help. You need someone to drop a game or two down the stretch and I'm just trying to. I forgot which team is that going to be that Minnesota Is it the seahawks right. We literally don't know but if the rams take care of business you know you just hold your own destiny and then and hopefully get some help Kirk Morrison joining us here on the morning. Show Kirk we were talking about this earlier that why are we where we are right now with regards to todd. Gurley in the sense is that we saw him touch the ball twenty seven times. Yesterday we saw him touch the ball twenty times. Nineteen Times I guess including the past against Arizona a week ago where for the vast majority of the season. He's in there. Was this pitch count injury. Maybe there's some friction all this. What change wild ascended Sean? mcvay see the light start giving the ball to his best player. Askar coming I think terms. I think kind of what I told you yesterday. You know. Sometimes you get these nice fancy restaurants or you're in the hotel and late at night after a long after an event and you're looking at the menu and you're like hey what do I want. What do I want at the end of the day is like Manson's give me a burger and fries? GimMe can you give me some chicken fingers and fries go to what you know you go to. What like your safety like no matter what? Todd Gurley is the safety net. Todd Gurley is just. That's that's sure bread and butter and when you give him the football good things happen whether he's getting stop or whether he's getting yard field. The offense always goes through tiger early and I think Sean McVeigh got away from that. A little bit got a little too pass. Happy in any realize it's like you said I was a navy it because I wasn't giving him the ball. I think you know okay. You said that he had twenty seven touches last night. Twenty seven touches between running and Receiving the first game against the ATL he only had fifteen total total fifteen Russia's eighteen in three catches total so to me the workload now. Is that a point season where ties healthy todd is is fully ready to take on that workflow and he couldn't do that last year because he was banged up so I honestly believe that what they've done with Todd Gurley. It's starting getting to work right. We see it now working where he's not limping to the finish line. He was healthy. He looked strong. He looks ready to go. Kerr Morrison joining the morning. Show Kirk you talked about around the league. Let's take a look at the division. As a whole we sell Seattle last night we saw a Ram San Francisco played early in the day. They went up to New Orleans and took care of business with the million dollar quarterback in Jimmy Garoppolo has Jimmy Garoppolo turned the corner is people are GonNa get off his back now. Let's ask her. I mean you look at his record as a starter man. The Dude has only lost. I believe what three games as a starter three or four games or the starter. I mean he's playing well. Yesterday was a signature win for him. He had fifty five seconds left in three time out and yet he was unfazed. Throw this all the way down for a game. When a touchdown style I mean Jimmy Garoppolo not only has turned the corner? But he's got people in the bay area believe it. They're a super bowl team because he is healthy. He's another guy that he is not going to go out in while you with five hundred yard passing games. He's not Lamar. Jackson does Shawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes but the dude has a Moxie has confidence often. It's about him and it permeates throughout the entire team. And that's why guys like George Kit or you know getting face masks. If they're still carrying guys fifteen twenty ours ars down. That's why they were down two tackles and yet they were still able to block up front. I mean they have a different mindset and it really started Jimmy G. and I thought yesterday's win at New Orleans. Manna in a playoff type atmosphere. That that was his first. I think big win in the National Football League Kirk I have a little bit of concern concern. Regards to the RAMS special teams We saw a couple of different guys return ball yesterday. That has a blocked field goal with Gregg the leg. Are there some cracks ex. There was it just like our listen quirks. That are just happening NASCAR yet it. That's a concern. Lv It really is because you know that was sort of automatic. That's the one thing that when you go on the road which is probably what's going to happen with the rams if they make the playoffs as a wildcard team the always got a pack. Two things. Right you know. I mean you carry on or your luggage. You pack your defense and you gotTa Pack Special Teams and so right now. I know deep. It's going to be in my bag right now. I don't don't know what parts of my special teams I can pack. Because right now it does not seem like the special teams unit is as good as it's been over the last couple of years to you mentioned question marks at the punt return turn game Kickoff retire really almost not really a big deal because so many kickers has taken out of the back of the is off. But if you're trying to find a just an a- An added advantage in the game right now the rams don't have it in so many years for the last couple of years it's really been their biggest advantage and right now yes it is a concern concerned because they don't have that Kirk Morrison joins US everything each and every rams game for ASCA Kirk. Thanks Kurt Doc. Goodman Turkey Lakers have to. MVP candidate Steve Jumping Front last night. We'll get into it next Lakers role last night at Staples Center behind fifty from Anthony Davis fifty points. I fifty point game as a member of the Lakers right there. Lebron was the FIDGETY. Ah lebrun thirty two points last night. Thirteen rebounds and it's all good job King Eighty fifty just. They've got to indy peas. And you you start to get it there. Twenty four games into the season and you can't start voting for it now but you can start thinking about it now. Yana certainly in the mix look Donncha churches in the mix. James Hardness probably in the mix still but you wonder if the Lakers with both ad and Lebron if they don't split some votes and neither one of them gets it because they're both so deserving irving of both getting it well. I think it depends on who separates himself like like I think a decade separate itself from Lebron as we continue to move move forward meaning like he continue to have those historic nights. Because the Brom wants him to he wants to defer to him and allow L. him to carry the team and when he needs to step up he could do it now. You have third two points last night but it was like an afterthought because it really was celebrating the fifty coming handed halftime and telling them not only get fifty. Next time. They'll come and go get try to get eighty because they want him to do those things so I think that's why he could separate yourself now from Lebron well but the problem is is not a problem but the the interesting part of it is. Is that your everything you said is right. Absolute Bronze Averaging Twenty six seven and eleven Kevin. And what's Twenty six seven and eleven for him and you just you you start looking at this and it's not just that Anthony Davis is a great player air. It's that it's twenty six seven eleven for a guy in his seventeenth season. I'm pulling up shooting dominating games and doing whatever he wants whenever he wants to do it. It is. It's very hard to ignore a player who is leading the League in assists and in the top ten in scoring no matter who is no matter. Who else is on your squad? It's hard for you not to be considered the MVP. I'm not saying ignore him or anything like that. What I'm saying hang is he's going to allow ad to do it? He's got his trophies not he wants the next guy to do it so he's going allow him to continue eighteen you to play the way play last night where you can defer everything you keep doing what you saw. I'm uptake my foot off the pedal and to such time that we really need me to. That's what I'm thinking but the allowing eighty to do it. He's racking up assist. That's the reason why it's so he's so you know. AD had fifty but Lebron assisted are quite a few of them. So it's like assistant. Ten Ten on Davis is averaging twenty eight nine three. I mean they're they're they're both but the the bronze and then he's second in a league in block. Yeah of these averaging over eight or something like that. He's averaging two and a half again that's the problem with Lebron's because much like you say no if he if he's dishing doing in not scoring two points dishes so now now let's focus is. Don't worry on the dish and if he if he doesn't dish and he doesn't score right now the focus is going to be as rebound he his defense. So it's it's it's it's a really interesting conversation because you gotta ask yourself are the Lakers got to ashes. Are they beholden to the best team in the League because ad is doing his offense but more importantly he's anchoring that defense or is it because Lebron James Leading the league in assists and making things easier for everybody including yes yes yes key automatically so I had a great night. Look Alex Caruso is GonNa play important minutes and take important shots on a team this competing for an NBA Championship House cruise down last night. No good there's era he. He's fine him though he found him and stuff I the article say what they wanna read. It was too long. The Lakers find players. They've they've had far better luck away from the top of the draft and they have love at the bottom. Speaking of the top of the draft to those players we shipped out to get eighty. We'll Lonzo is such a dynamic guy. When he plays that he put up two points the other night he missed just every three point shot he he? He did have two assists he did play play twenty nine minutes long. I don't want to seize the court in no no. No you get you ready. Lonzo Lonzo sucks rob just my executive of the year because he just pulled the biggest creole okeydoke in a history of Creole Okeydoke. He's symptom picks in exchange for freaking V.. Who just dropped fifty minutes drive in an MVP? He had to send them something and they want to be there just letting reading. But I'm just saying I mean they're they. That was highway robbery was we'll we'll see what this draft picks turned into road but no remember. Were there were. There was talk like Woo. Lakers gave all that out there just talking there. Was that talk now. Watch what there was talk that was out there. Rows there's no question about it all the experts in the NBA. All these guys like come on Man Stop Stop. It was the only one that ever watched Lonzo play. I I thought that was. He had an opportunity to be away from Lebron and he can just Kinda grow as an NBA player. I thought he would be much better her. In this scenario I like what you said key about. How eighties that Lebron's look? Look I've got every there's not a piece of hardware that Lebron doesn't have he's got MVP's he's got all NBA MVP everything you could want. Abby ship bringing all of it well scoring title that being said You know we've talked about this. He's not just competing against the other players in the NBA. Right now he's not just competing with Jaanus and steaming. Anthony Davis revie. PC He's competing against history he's competing against Jordan and what Michael Jordan did not do winning. MVP in his seventeenth. Okay so this is another one. This wasn't isn't even conversations. Lebron James can never be six and owned the finals and I know that Jordan people price screaming at the rim sixty six. No never never WANNA chit without Pippin. Sit Six zero six zero. Lebron James Might Win an MVP in his seventeenth season in the league. Lebron James might get his fourth. NBA Ring this season season. Lebron James is the best player in basketball seventeen seasons into his career. So how many times in the championship into it nine nine nine. And he's won three. Yes so if he goes ten and four. I think I would rather be. I'd rather go Tina Win. Four six and Oh yes seek yes in the seventeen take shake next key. Let's start with a college football. Take it or shake it right out of the gate. The committee got it right by seating. LSU Number One Ohio state number two Clemson and oh you at three and four Lsu is the best team in college football and should be the number one seed take it or shake it take it it take you guys asleep today. It is certainly the best team in college football I watched him dominate Georgia from from beginning to end so happy for coach. Oh it was just. It was amazing it was amazing the to watch line take care of business and get things done the way that they did. It was really striking to see John Robinson on the sidelines with Marcus Allen knowing that Oregon could have been the head coach at USC. and seeing John Ron Robinson in purple again do I need to say John. Robinson and Eddie Auto side-by-side Dave Campo it it Klay Hilton side by side the same according to the L. A. Times article yes. They saved a lot of money by letting John Robinson go all right. Let's go to the next one. Let's go to the forty niners Jimmy G. Goes into the superdome beats the New Orleans. Saints the forty niners. Jimmy G. are good enough to win the Super Bowl. Bill would take it take a based on what I saw. Yesterday I think the San Francisco Forty niners or good enough to win the super run on whether or not they make it. It's a different story. But if they get there they are good enough to win it. Here's Kyle Shanahan talking about it's quarterback. He's unbelievable no matter what happens. Is that a lot of good games this year. I'm he's had some times where we meet has made some mistakes and he's the same guy every day just to be able to deal with that crowd noise to deal with adversity. That went in all throughout the game to deal with me You know he's He's the same. He's really WanNa coach for that reason. I wouldn't say he's unbelievable but he's really good. The march actions unbelievable. You gotTa really really good quarterback that's not hate but that's just letting you know that I think that'd be enough though I mean he's GonNa problem up but there's no use like that's that's what he doesn't matter. The Jimmy G.. The holiest cool that that he's that he doesn't seem to sweat too much that even we've seen him in some type games at the end we saw awed against Seattle. We've seen it against Baltimore. We saw yesterday and he doesn't have that what the Hell's going on look he's got the I got this look. Yeah because he hasn't had that yet he has a hat. What the Hell's going on? Look yet I mean the teams that that they've lost to you go back and you look at what the Hell's going on. Yeah you could point to that. But most of the Games that they they played this year. He's been pretty good. You know not overly exciting but just a guy who you say okay he's very serviceable. Did you late yesterday. He kinda play. You Know Predator service that Putt that put for the touchdown that was put he being up to the topless CAMIs panicked star grabbing fallen that if they would've played it right that's a pig. That wasn't no no hell of a perfect throw. Yeah it was a dime. Donald Stop to the Patriots have regret no for trade him. No brings us to our next one. The Patriots Hey traits will not go to the Super Bowl because of their offense take it or shake shake You know I wouldn't say that you still believe in. I'm sticking stick with him to the end. 'cause I believe that they know what they're doing outlook they may not go to the Super Bowl. But I'll be damned if they not playing the AFC championship game. I'd I understand. CASSIE did them. A number Baltimore worked him earlier in the year. It's the bills game was just thing about while some about New England Hale. Kansas City is so cold blooded with New England. Kansas City equipment got shipped the Newark so I mean suggests that the New England patriots. But here's the here's the biggest difference this year and again this could be the worst. Take in the history of the world because you could turn around in January and there they are again again it would be a huge surprise. Usually the Patriots struggle with a portion of their game in September and October usually by December then got an ironed out. They've got it figured out pretty well right right right now. They're playing their worst football the year heading into the postseason and usually it's the opposite. Usually there peaking at this. You see what games they have remaining and left on his schedule the jets at a dolphin in the bills. Yeah I know. But if the offense that's the powder understanding of trick plays and Tom Brady Ranford as long as you carry and like five seasons still came up short just remember The Patriots had Kansas City equipment shipped to new the ship. Day did logistics. Stay with the Orleans for a SEC. At the saints can go on the Road and win a playoff game to get to the Super Bowl. Take shaken take. They made a few mistakes yesterday. fumbled the ball Kamar The the box fake-field punt That was it is it. Pi because they were in a punt on formation and from what I understand terms of rules you can't be in a punt formation. Did in do that. Because of defenders at a disadvantage because he doesn't know was going on. He's thinking you putting the ball based on the puck formation. So you can't so you can put your hands on all the way down. The can set him up for failure like that. You think that they can go to Seattle or San Francisco. Oh and win one of those games because they go to Seattle Seattle did they did. But it just seems that that path through those two cities in particular could be very trick. Kim San on Francisco finish. Can they finish the deal. Eleven to key no but can they finish it though to get home field throughout can they. They need to San Francisco. CISCO NEAT team doesn't need. It might be the Patriots that would that would be the only one that I think I mean Baltimore I think would rather have it than not have it. Yeah but Baltimore went to Kansas City and almost got out of here with a w you know. They've gone buffalo they won. They came out here on Monday night and just kicked the door Asanaka homer homer but the only team that we're still talking about that doesn't really need it to get to the Super Bowl young team that just did it. Yep Very true. But I'm just saying everybody else they gotta get in now. Let's go to the next through back to the college game. USC and Iowa in the holiday bowl the trophy the way the Hawkeyes take only if it was in the Rose Bowl Yeah. It's so interesting that we've been talking about. USC and a holiday today both again. What does this like the third trip for Clinton in five years so holiday feels like that's actually what it is but it certainly feels a second trip to the holiday table three? I lost three good teams the three teams that they lost two they all lost to them. Pretty narrowly you like s these chances to go in there and win that game against a middle of the pack big big. This is one of those bowls. Where if I'm at home I watch it not I'm not making it a point to sit down and Ho- set my arm armed? Go Watch it so I really don't care to be honest with you. I just don't if they get stopped. I think I think if you beat them. It doesn't matter. I think if you lose to him in matters you they lose to them. It's going you know. Certainly a matter beating them. It's like especially when I'm looking at I. I just look at other programs that are making coaching changes. Going out and hiring dues Florida state hired Norville Lane Kiffin is back in the SEC. Again the troll. Nick Sabin in Tennessee. I mean that's just like Oh all Mississippi. Forget that we want to get this dude travis. My school and the first responders bold if that makes you better response playing Hang Eastern Michigan who western Kentucky Reconciliatory Thirtieth Directional Bull. No doubt about it off the last one. Let's go to the Lakers here. Another tough night for Kyle Kuzma three of seven overall one of the three point line. Just seven points. You're worried about Kyle. Kuzma take her to shake it shake K.. Not Worried about them. Twenty Games into the season It's got a long season ago. GotTa get used to what his role is is and I think once he gets that confidence down then he'll start knocking now shots again. Why are you so confident if we can talk about the MVP's and who's going GonNa win with these twenty games but you can't figure out a guy's GonNa struggle with these twenty gains? What think you you gotTa know where he's come from first of all? I missed all the training camp. Okay he he's he's using the users I part of you know several games basically as preseason for him and he's trying to get into a rhythm and there's a long season ago he's still kit he. He's still young. The Rust argument though the Russ would be not not not not necessarily Russ just understanding of his role. You know when you're not confident often in your role sometimes when people are picking you up and pulling your chain one mini over here in an expert. You gotta get comfortable in whole situation. Do you have to roll it out the way that it is right now our. He's coming off the bench more often than not. Do if you see another five games ten games and we're still talking about. Hey what's going on over there. Do you need to change the role. If because at that point you know what it is. It's just not work. Do you need to change it. I think in five games I think five more games still a little early to ten now ten games and you're thirty two on halfway wait. That's what I'm saying. You get to the halfway point now. We need to figure out what's going on all right. The Rams with a big win at the Coliseum last night is it going to be enough to get him in that's next.

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Hour 2: Bad Football. Good Buisness

Izzy and Spain

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Hour 2: Bad Football. Good Buisness

"Welcome to Spain and fits the podcast. We're finally getting the answer every fan base wants to know and it has fan bases of teams that maybe having lost seasons already. Superstock. The question isn't who's gonna start. The question is how soon are they going to start? And we now know that we've got youth starting all over the NFL, Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. The ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty chased him fits hanging out with field Yates presented by progressive insurance field in for Sarah and field. I, it's it's sort of a landmark moment here as we find out today that not only will Baker Mayfield be the starting quarterback as expected for the Cleveland Browns. I don't think anybody thought that there could that could be turned around. We also know the Josh Rosen is going to get his way into the starting lineup, meeting four starting four first round, cook rookie quarterback's will be starting in week four. It's a significant moment for the NFL. Yeah, it sure is. And you think about this draft class going back to April first time. We'd ever seen four quarterbacks taken in the top ten in the modern era of the NFL draft. And we all thought there was a chance that one or two of these players could emerge the starter in short order in the NFL, but let's go through them one by one fits because I think you know, I'm not saying the entry needs to wane after Baker Mayfield, but I do believe the most interesting one, here's Baker Mayfield because of how he played on Thursday night. I was out on Friday. I'm saying I'm out is part of the show really regular war now, always part of the show in my heart. I been thank you been around enough. He played really, really well. It was a no brainer for the Cleveland Browns to make him their starting quarterback. They just wanted to give the respect to tyrod Taylor who had a concussion during the game to not just bench him when he's hurt, and you know, in the aftermath of an historic win give it how long have a been since they had won a game. But Baker mayfield's intriguing to me. I think he said it's succeed right away because there are really good weapons there in Cleveland. Well, I want to stick with that for second because now bigger may feel it's one of the biggest event. Tages that you can get in the NFL when you talk about the mini by. And I mean, obviously having a Thursday night game and getting a few extra days gives him a few extra days to prep for this process to your point. We've found out today that he's the starter. I think that that's probably something that worked its way through to them quicker than that. So when you think about Baker Mayfield coming up on Sunday, a week from yesterday, his first matchup is a started will be against the raiders to you. Look at Baker Mayfield and think what you saw on Thursday plays forward in such a way that he can immediately come in and win games. Here's the reason why I think that Baker Mayfield is primed for success in a way that maybe not all these other rookie quarterbacks are primed. I just mentioned the weapons, and you just introduced me to them as well. Jarvis lenders like a legitimate study and David joke, who has barely sort of scratched his potential this year in that Cleveland off into Tonio Calloway at ten targets in week three. There are good established playmakers in this offense. Also in the backfield a guy like Carlos high can take pressure off of Baker Mayfield, but more so than just the weapons, the defense is really. Good. They're not gonna need him to win a shootout game in the same way that another quarterback monkeys rookie class might look. I don't know the defenses, good enough in Arizona where Josh Rosen is going to be able to win a game by scoring sixteen points and orchestrating three scoring drives in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield obviously wants to score fifty points a game, but they can win a game seventeen twelve or twenty two fourteen. We've seen them almost do it this year. And then on Thursday night, they always did it more resounding fashion at span Fitz on the ESPN radio. Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates were presented by progressive insurance and look whenever you're Baker Mayfield in general, whatever you're the top pick in the draft. And whenever you've just snapped a losing streak for a franchise, you know, pressure's gonna be there, but Baker knows pressure comes with the territory. This is what he said. It comes with the territory signed up for I'm living my dream and I wouldn't have it any other way without pressure. I don't think this would be very much fun without all the people watching and finding the joy in this game. You know, I love this game without the competitive nature. I wouldn't. It and I know that sounds cliche when you hear it feel, but at the same time, those the things you need to hear from the young quarterback when he comes in and you're over analyzing is we will all do how he seems to be handling the spotlight every single step of the way. Yeah, and listen, he's going to be a player that will be scrutinized in all corners because he was in some ways ga- pull the rising at the college level. But the bottom line is this the top of the mountain. You're going to have people for no reason other other than because they don't play, you don't play for their team. They're going to like you, but I loved the comments from Baker Mayfield today about the thirtieth starting quarterback for the Browns and like the last twenty years. And his comment was who cares now worried about them at twenty eighteen. That's what matters most the foot. The football stuff on the field is critically important, but I do believe the Baker Mayfield has some of the stuff sort of the intangibles the between the year stuff like can lead to legitimate success for this team and this player going forward. So we have to acknowledge that there are now four first round rookie quarterback, starting. In week four Baker, we've talked about Sam darnold. We've talked about a lot over the course of the year with his hot start with the jets, and then what it means moving forward. Josh Allen gets his first win is the starter, but the Josh Rosen one is sort of. I think we all we all knew this was coming to question is how effective in your mind can be, because let's be real. We all thought that Zona at some point would at least be able to generate something with David Johnson that has not happened. So you know, he's he's stepping into a difficult situation where you talk about weapons. The perception was there were weapons in Arizona, and so far this year doesn't look like there are, yeah. Well, there are weapons in Arizona. I'm just not sure they're being utilized, right? I mean, it's difficult to watch David Johnson who had a twenty two yard touchdown, catch early in that game against Chicago on Sunday always ending become a non factor and for Josh Rosen, who do you trust besides David Johnson, Larry, FitzGerald, and that's about it. Christian Kirk had a big game. This past Sunday, but a second round pick out of Texas a. and m. like for Josh Rosen, I think the circumstances have really. Difficult for him. That being said, I thought the same thing about Josh Allen going to Minnesota, and he defied that sort of pressure. You can make the case, the defense put him in a very good spot. But yeah, I'm a little bit worried for Josh Rosen going into this. I start. This was cardinals head coach, Steve Wilks, making the announcement today of the change of quarterback, looking at the situation valuating the film by waiting the quarterback position, I decided that Josh Rosen would be starter. I'll going forward, Josh plays with a lot of confidence. I think he gives us opportunity to be able to be successful and look. We can't be surprised when you're drafted in the first round. We expect this change sooner than later, but this is a statement about the lack of competitiveness of competitiveness overall, in my mind, field force specifically the cardinals because they're team. I think that thought they were going to have a little bit of time. They were going to be able to make this adjustment casually, they were going to be able to sort of still get some things done. But realistically, they've looked dreadful so far this year and much like the bills when you're in. In that situation, you gotta just figure it out. Yeah. I mean, I don't wanna put us on too much of a hot take alert here, but it feels like the Carl's are going to be a part of that chase for the number one pick in the NFL draft next, he's it just feels like this is a team that is so limited offensively and I'm not sure a coaching shift has impacted eighteen more on both sides of the ball schematically than what we saw for AirAsia. Right? I mean, it's got square pegs into round holes on defense and then authencity. Whereas David Johnson was the focal point. I mean, just the absolute focal point of this offense on nearly every single play, both as a runner and throw and a receiver now he's hardly utilize. I mean, I was excited for a little while he had, you know, fantasy football, you'd sixteen fantasy points, but like almost all of those came early on in the game. It's been disheartening to see how this team has played so far. Absolutely. And it's been stunning to meet just hanging around with doing the halls and seeing people walk up to you, say, should I drop JV Johnson? What's the right trade for David Johnson? I never thought I'd be in that situation from a fantasy standpoint where we're questioning the value. And that says something about to your point, the schematic change. And also it says something about how difficult a lot of us perceive the rest of this year is going to be for the cardinals, but it will be interesting once you get your young quarterback in it can give a fan base. The jets fans know this better than anybody with one game winner loss. You can get hope, and that's what every single team is looking for. Straight ahead, an ugly truth about NFL rules that protect the quarterbacks. It's not going to be popular or nice, but it's the truth, and I'm going to give it to you next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, Spain, and Fitz, Spain, and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates. It's time for straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones best networks, no contracts. And that was Klay Matthews telling the NFL that they're soft and also reminding everybody that if you really wanted to hurt a quarterback, he could and and believe me. This rule change for a player landing with his body weights on a on a quarterback is something that's very unpopular. And I understand field that it's very unpopular. But I think at this point, a lot of people have missed the actual point in this process. And the point is is much as people don't want quarterbacks to be protected. Realistically, quarterbacks matter more than everybody else in the game. And that's just the way it's gonna be. All right. So I feel like you're simplifying a little bit more that I'm willing to go to fits because you're correct that quarterbacks need to be protected adequately because they do move the needle more than any other position in sports. We saw what happened with Jimmy Garoppolo in San Francisco yesterday, and it feels like a season has gone by the wayside for the forty Niners however, doesn't it feel like there is a spot somewhere between quarterbacks need to be protected adequately and quarterbacks need to be protected more than a breathing on them is a penalty call, right? I mean, it just feels like we have gone from one side of the spectrum or maybe not even one side of the spectrum, but we have eliminated the middle area, the middle ground where quarterbacks and be protected while players can still. Concede is a violent football game. Okay. And that's a fair point. I understand that realistically we want we want players to be able to go out and play. We want clay Matthews to be able to go out and just to clear out these does, and I understand the frustration in seeing these calls. I mean, when you're watching the game and you watch guy land on the number one answer, is will what's he supposed to do off of him? In realistically, the green example of that is yesterday William Hayes for the dolphins rolls off of their car as he sacking him and alternately tears his knee up. So he's going to be gone for the season. And there's this perception that that the league is so worried about quarterbacks that they're willing to put other guys health at risk. But realistically, how many dolphins fans today are going to step up and say, hey, our seasons completely over just because William Hayes has gone versus I dunno hill being gone realistically to the point of what matters to the NFL. If you lose your your starting quarterback, what you've lost in this process is foremost teams the hope for the season. You've also lost the guy that's on the billboard. You've lost the guy. That gets the most money, the guy that sells the most jerseys, the guy that puts butts in the seats, the guy that sells cotton candy to little kids that come to the stadium. I mean, that's the power of the brand of a quarterback. And realistically we put so much emphasis on either you have that brand or you don't have that brand every year draft time because we understand the importance there is more importance to the brand of a quarterback than there will ever be to the brand of defensive tackle or defensive end, so they will be valued more. That's just the way the world works. You like an NFL owner right now talking about the bottom line so much like doesn't there have to be some other considerations here, right? I mean, we'll we'll but field. If the other consideration is safety, you're actually trying to make the game safer for your quarterback while you're slaves. Don't you do you feel truly is if the NFL has not gone too far with these quarterback rules like you are okay with the penalty that was called with Klay Matthew bike on clay Matthews yesterday and heck the one before that as well. You're okay with it? No, I don't love it. Look, you gotta make arguments somewhere between. I think we both agree there is an in-between area, and I understand that all NFL rules are difficult to legislate. I'm not naive to that fact. I just feel as though the NFL has taken this so far so far that all of a sudden the game feels like it's being it's going to have to be played differently for NFL players. And the result might be that a guy like William Hayes, tears ACO's over the year, I get it these not Ryan tannehill for the dolphins, but he's an important defensive lineman. They traded for this off season. He's a guy that has been in the NFL for awhile. He's important. He's played a part in their three, no start well, and obviously he's an important piece, but he's, he's just not. He's not a quarterback can look at the Texans. They can lose JJ watt at his peak and they can still be. Additive. If they lose their starting quarterback, they lose to Shawn Watson, what? What's their season? Can it be? I mean, that's why why they're doing what they're doing and and isn't the argument of this can't be done. Players aren't going to be able to do this. They've gone too far. Isn't that the same exact thing? We were saying about the lowering the head piece. I mean, we spent the whole summer yelling about the lowering the headpiece which this point I've decided was just a a Trojan horse. We were also busy focusing on that that nobody was looking at this roughing, the passer rule to see what it was going to actually do because that's the rule that's impacting us weekend and week out. I predicted that I thought this was going to happen. I understand that it's difficult to work around, but ultimately the owners are doing the most important thing in their mind, which is player safety and protecting their biggest investment. The quarterback position that's that from a business standpoint has to be their focused. Right. I'm okay with the idea, but quarterbacks are the most important position on the field for a team success and off the field for for a Frank has intr-. Firsts, and it's business upside and all those things. I'm okay with that part. Again, I just feel as though we've gone too far on this stuff to the point that NFL players, especially on defense are being asked to do things that I'm not sure they are physically capable of doing. And what I mean by that is almost pulling back in a sport of violence in the middle of a play. Like I'm not saying like, you know, they, they are. They are no longer like they're doing these air. Fifth physically incapable of doing is in like, they have to jump sixty inches in the air, or, you know, make a one handed catch blindfolded or separately that on the field. Like we're asking Klay Matthew, they two hundred fifty pound man to like retort, his body as he is driving forward and getting a sack. I think about some of the plays in the NFL that have been conic in the league's history where a sack has been eluded by quarterback it. What if a player or a sack has been registered, right? Like the Eli manning play the David Tyree throw like he had a player in his grasp what if NFL player and eventually makes throw to David retiree, who velcro to his helmet. And the giants go on to win that game. Like what, if an NFL defensive player pulls up a little bit and some a quarterback eludes pressure. Next thing you know, becomes a franchise or at least they game altering play that we remember as if he had just gone the full distance to make the tackle wouldn't be talking about this Jeb realistically field what you know what if somebody doesn't pull up and that's the play because of the body weight that the brakes collarbone and eliminates the season for somebody. I mean, that's the flip side of the argument. And So Jerry Jones, by the way, in the side of the players with this one said roughing, the passer penalty on Taryn Crawford in the first quarter of the Sunday's loss to Seattle. His quote was that was a tough call and that was a meaningful call early. But no, that was a tough call that was not roughing the passer under the existing rules that was just not roughing the passer. Now I'll be interested to see how the league response to that because we have to remember that. But we see doesn't always matter. And that's a message for all of us, including one of the best in the business. One of my favorite of ESPN s. v. p. last night on sports center. He went off. On the NFL. This is what he said, the continuation of this call. And as we illustrate the inconsistency of how it is called is an enormous problem for the league. And they tweeted out during the game that this was the right call. No, it isn't. It's a joke, and I am amazed that you guys continue to say this. This is going to hurt you. It's going to hurt you. I don't. Maybe you don't care where s VP is wrong on this is that they tweeted it out because in because it is the right call, we may not like the rule, but the league is adamant on enforcing the rule and they're doing it with pretty good consistency. Yes. They have missed a couple of calls and they've acknowledged the calls that they've missed field. But realistically for them to tweet out during a game, this was the correct call. They are telling you right then and there you may not like it, but here's why it's right and so for for any of us to to come in, we may not always understand it when we see it. But realistically it was the right call because they are actually enforcing the rule the way they've written it. I still have a problem with it. I've remember the rule. That's the issue that right, like I'm from what the rule and the way they're enforcing you to such that I think NFL players and I think fans are gonna blow back a little bit. I've, I've heard from people. Today that have said like, I am frustrated and dismayed by the way this call is being legislated and it's going to result in them potentially change in their viewing habits in the NFL or on the NFL. I o problem with it. I am all for protection of players. I think every player would agree. That's a primary initiative for the league. Both Pratt past and present. I just think we got to the point on Sunday where I've had to use the mean of land Stevenson blowing into the ear of LeBron James, describe how players are supposed to now tackle in the NFL twice so far this season. That's where we're at. I think NFL players truly feel as though as defensive players, there's a lot of lose lose propositions. I don't disagree with you. I, I would love to see the rule reworked, but it because I wanna see guys be able to go out and play where I disagree is the concept that everybody should matter the same. Because realistically, as much as players may yell and scream about everybody should matter the same and what it means to defensive lineman. The true value of a franchise will always be on their quarterback. Whether we like it or not, that straight, talk straight, talk wireless nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable, four g. l. networks straight ahead. Tiger Woods back on top, but does it mean that a major is soon to come find out from NBC's Jimmy Roberts next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio field? Yates in for Sarah, ESPN, radio, Spain, and Fitz. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to Geico. I should've done this years ago disclaimer crumpling Buchan time is physically impossible unless you know how to build a functioning time machine. Then by all means trouble. Twenty-five years back in time. Switzer car insurance Geico you could save a bunch of money while you're there. Please? Provincial younger. So from wearing sleeveless tuxedo t-shirt, parachute pants and glitter, high tops, DO senior prom at long last, rectify this horrible crime against nature Geico's absolved of all ability. If you've destroyed the fabric of time and space, Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. So when tiger wins, nobody sleeps, that's the rule we are now going to go to the shell Pennzoil performance line where NBC's Jimmy Roberts joins us already in Paris. Obviously already feeling the love there. You're in the city of love Jimmy, but talk about what you saw yesterday and try and quantify what it meant for golf for tiger to win. Well, to quantify it. I mean, you can look at the ratings, the television ratings were extrordinary. I think it was the highest rating in the history of the FedEx Cup playoffs. I think it was two hundred percent of both of the previous year or two percent about the highest. I don't even know you guys can. I'm sure you guys can find that out. I know that the ratings were ordinary, and that's not really surprising when right down to the end. I think that you know what happened. It depends on your perspective. I was one of those guys who thought he was going to win and then no, it's easy to say that now, but I'm on the record. Having said that, probably on ESPN radio at some point in time, I I ran into a doctor years. It was about a year ago. He was a surgeon, and he told me that the reason that he thought tiger would play well, again was because this was his fourth back surgery, but the. Previous three were micro disc. These because tiger didn't wanna do anything to extreme. He finally had a fusion and this was the one that he needed to have. And you know, I, I go back to what Roger Maltbie told me once long ago. It's just, you know, he's just better than everybody else. And you know you put those two things together. I can't say I was shocked. I think it was one of the most moving things I've seen covering golfing along longtime that scene with everybody trailing him down the eighteenth. Fairway was just extrordinary, you know, Jimmy along those lines. You have seen so many memorable moments not just in golf, but in sports specific that eighteenth hole walk. Is there anything that reminds you of whether on a golf course or anywhere else in terms of connected miss between the player and the crowd. Yeah, it was pretty good. I mean, it's it's be like a top-five moment and let's be honest. I mean, it's, you know, it's an important event, but it's, you know, my I have often said the most memorable thing I've ever seen in sports was Dan Jansen winning his gold medal in nineteen ninety four after you know, decade plus of heartbreak and misery in the public eye and the the kind of emotion that surrounded that now this wasn't the Olympics, but you know what tiger came back from and the manner in which he came back and the type of person who I think a lot of us believe he is now. It's just, you know, I mean, it's really an extraordinary story. We're talking to NBC's Jimmy Roberts on the shell Pennzoil performance line. You can check out coverage of the Ryder Cup this week on NBC Saturday and Sunday. So from your eyes, how much of what we saw over the weekend is now sustainable for tiger. Very good question. I think that golf, I, I have an old saying that, you know, you don't own golf, you rent it and it doesn't matter who you are. It's just a matter of degree. So Jack Nicklaus used to say that when he was struggling golf, he would lose the ball to the left. When I struggle and golf, I lose the ball. So it's kinda the same for all of us, but it's a matter of degree. I don't think Tigers ever going to be who he was back in the early part of the century, but who he was was basically Haley's comet, you know, I mean, you see that once in a lifetime once in a generation in the not even once in a generation. Once in a lifetime, you know, he he rewrote the rules of success in the game of golf, and I just think it's foolish if people think that that's what we're gonna see, again, we're not gonna see that again. I think that there are. Too many people who have grown up idolizing him who now have. I don't wanna say equivalent skills, but they have look on any given week. There are people that you've never even heard of who can play the way tiger played golf is just that deep at the highest level. And I don't think tiger dominates or looms above it the way he did it one point. So I, you know, I I, if you months ago, I thought he was going to win again. I thought maybe there was a possibility if anything he might win a masters because he's so comfortable there. You know, I don't know where I where I stand on this now. I mean, I think he'll win again is no reason. He shouldn't. I still in skeptical. I don't think he's gonna break nNcholas record four major or five majors now to break Nickless's record five majors that's Phil Mickelson's career. You know, Tigers forty, two years old. I think the chances are better than I might have thought they would have been that in win a major, maybe more than one, I don't know, but you know, five majors. That's a pretty big, ask Jimmy, as we look forward to the weekend ahead with the Ryder Cup to you feel as though tiger's performance could impact or at least give the US momentum going into this tournament seems to have world abuzz right now. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it. I mean, look all those people who are playing in the Ryder Cup, they all had a normal respect for tiger and they still do. I think that what happened last week, open their eyes. But I don't think there is only open this past week. They've seen the way he's been playing. You know, he early in the year almost one on the PGA tour and Tampa. I think that was the eye opener, you know? And then he was in contention, had the lead on the what the eleventh hole in the last round at the open championship finish second at the PGA championship. So I think that you know, I think that they have known that he is back. I do think it's a very loud and resounding kind of shot across the bow or the European team to happen the week before the Ryder Cup. So I think it's interesting. You know, I think it's just very, very interested. We're talking to NBC's Jimmy. Roberts, let's stay on the ri- Ryder Cup for a second. Other than tiger. What are you most interested in this weekend? Finding the best meal that I can in Harris. And I've got and I've got a big head start on that had a good one tonight. But you know, in all seriousness, I, I wanna see what Phil Mickelson does. You know? I wanna see what Rory mcilroy does. I wanna see what Justin Rose did. Those are three players who disappointed this past week in a variety of degrees. I mean, you know, Justin Rose won the FedEx Cup, but I don't think what issue seventy three on Sunday. I don't think that's what he had in mind. What's the Ryder Cup is always about this enormous, enormous collection of motion an energy. It's just it's, I often say this if you're a sports fan, it's one of the great events there is and you should go and you should see it because it's just in make sure I, it makes your heart pound. I mean, I know I've talked to players I wouldn't share their names, but guys who have told me. They were scared at the opening shot, you know? And that's not something you'll ever hear from professionals anywhere else. Do guys can follow him on Twitter at Jimmy Roberts NBC check out the coverage of the Ryder Cup this weekend on NBC on Saturday and Sunday. Jimmy. Forget the food man just eat all the macaroni. You possibly can. They're just better in Paris. No, it's all about the wind boys. It's all about the line, not either or wine end Macara's that that's the way to go. Thanks for your time, Jimmy. All right, guys, take care, Spain and fits so much drama around Monday night football and a bunch of it's not even on the field John. I love it, Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates field. We, you know this game tonight. Buchan near Steelers aluminium. I thought it was going to be hot garbage. I thought going into the year without James Winston at the bucks would start out incredibly slow and that we would see the Steelers go out and be who the Steelers always are. And that this game would be some level of disinterested to me. And instead we've seen Ryan Fitzpatrick maximize the opportunity to play with tremendous weapons, put up huge numbers. We see the buccaneers doing great things, and we see the Steelers doing head-scratching things for their organization, and it's got everybody all up in their fields for this one, I think we'd call. By the proper name. First of all, he's Ryan fits magic. Okay. God, what? What? Why Ryan Fitzpatrick who has over eight a passing yards and eight touchdowns through two games this season. Adam Schefter reported today or at least tweeted today that Ryan Fitzpatrick wife is do with their seventh kid in January. The guys just on a roll so far this year apparently is going to be able to feel this own football team. One day of he, his wife continue to grow the fits magic family Wakeman. I think you meant the Fitzpatrick magic or magic, but I'm has a better role. The Patrick magic. I'm one hundred percent in with you that I thought this team was going to be at best one in one, but probably Owen to at this point and I have said it now I have. I have just put egg on my own face may COPA. I thought the bucks would be no good, especially with no Jameis Winston, the first three weeks of the season. It's been one of the best stories of the year, and I thought that the comparison, the Bill Barnwell passed along the Doug Farrar made rats Doug on his new book is. Sort of reminds me of the Mike Martz offense of the Rams led by Mark Bolger. Right? Like a quarterback that maybe as properly categorized as a journeyman, but the weapons are so good in the system is so fun to operate within that. We're seeing this ridiculously high octane attack. This bucks defense. I don't know how good it is. I know good of front in the front. Seven. I don't know how good it is in the back seven or in the secondary. I should say. But right now doesn't matter. Like if you're scoring, you know, four passing touchdowns a game. Like I'm not sure we need to know how good or bad just because your office electric well is Tim Hasselbeck was on NFL live earlier explained why fits magic is having such success. He's comfortable and he's playing with a massive amount of competence and and he gets a great opportunity against a defense that's struggling. So I think he sees things through the same lens that dirt cutter sees things authencity, which helps him. He's surrounded by a lot of talent, arguably as much talent. He's ever been surrounded by. Well, and those are all pieces to it, but you have to feel like the pieces that he surrounded by particularly field are shockingly good? Right? And that's part of what we talked about with Kansas City earlier. It's funny some of the same conversation pieces coming up here. What is their defensive? Like? Who cares? He's able to get the ball out and he's able to make the right decision with it. He's crushing and there's no reason to think given the Steelers defense in the way they played so far this year that that will change tonight. Here's the thing I would say is that this Pittsburgh Steelers defense and the entire rosters ready for gut check tonight. I really do believe that this is their chance, right? I mean, oh one and one not necessarily out of it in the division, right? I mean, nobody is better than two and one in that exact division, but it's got check time, right? You go to and one, I don't care whether it's the offense, the defense that let you down this peak. Pittsburgh Steelers team has too much cash in too much veteran leadership to fall to. They can. I mean, do fall to, oh two and one and give us an excuse for that reason for that start. But I mean they had to. Demote already burns a former first round. Pick reportedly doing that tonight from cornerback that tells you where things have gotten too, right. I mean, this team thought it had answers this off season at cornerback safety and linebacker. I don't see any of them because the office hasn't been the problem. Ben Rothlisberger has been firing it around the field at least was last week, and I expected to have a big night tonight. But this defense is a mess. Steelers books coming up on ESPN's Monday night football at eight fifteen eastern. You're listening to Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates who's in for Sarah, and it's funny that you mentioned that the Steelers offense hasn't been the problem because I think a lot of us have been looking at lady on bell to try and figure out what the offense would look like without lady on how they move forward, what they're going to do. And now the rumbling starts to to to get louder that the Steelers are now going to listen to trade offers to Levy on bell for you as the NFL insider. Typically, we'd be calling you saying, hey field, you wanna come on and talk about it. You're already here my friend. So your thought. On lady on on the trade bloc. Let's start here. I think you can look at the timeline of reporting specific to Sunday, entered a piece together, how much of a shift this is Sunday morning, we know is when a lot of these reports that have been held onto during the week are released. Right? It's a good time because of the TV audience during the pregame shows for a variety of reports to come out. For example, we had the rob gronkowski story reported by Adam Schefter in which gronk nixed a trade to the lions when the patriots are playing lions. Last night, of course, earlier this off season lady on bell. That news came like five minutes before NFL countdown was over and games. Begun like that tells you something changed quickly because if that was something you've been sift city on all week. Of course you done at least you would release that earlier in the day. Right? It just tells you to me, I think it just feels like that story in the tenor of that has changed so much. The Steelers may have set of themselves. We don't have time to wait time to wait. We don't have any more time to waste. We'd consider offers for. Viane on bell Anne up everybody else. Well, in that raises the great question though. I mean, what's the? What's the realistic return that the Steelers should expect from somebody for labia hard for me to imagine it's more than mid round draft pick, right. I mean, because they one year proposition, not because of what lady on may one, but just from the simple fact that you cannot renegotiate a deal for lady on bell until after the off season. Let's get. Let's say he gets traded somewhere. I don't know if lady on bell has that Jimmy Butler thing going on right now where he has desired wishlist of where he'd like to go. But if he does not have Arpey does Evan desired wishlist and he's treated elsewhere from that wishlist just just throw a team, throw a dart against the board and see which team it lives with the Arizona Cardinals. Of course, now would never happen because they have David Johnson, but the cardinals would be trading for the final thirteen or fourteen weeks of the NFL season. And then if they wanted to potentially signing, maybe I'm bell long-term. So put for not even a full season. Three quarters of a season is basically what amounts to. I can't imagine a team. Just give me much more than amid round draft pick now in might be that the the, the stakes are raised a bit. If this is a team that feels as though, hey, lady on bells a team that pushes over the top. If you're a team say, all right, like we're so bad offensively that we just kind of want to get something in here, infuse some energy into this offense is a little bit different, but fascinating story that I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon. Well, field, I mean, I'm hearing you say that and all I keep thinking is we had a conversation earlier tonight about how packed most of the NFL looks to be and how there's a lot of parody this year. And it's gonna make the rest of the season very compelling to watch minus a couple of teams that look great and a couple of teams that look terrible. The rest of the league seems to be packed in if you're telling me that a team like the Packers are really any team that feels like they're in the middle of that pack could give up a mid round draft, pick to get lady on bell even as a rental. How are you not doing cartwheels up the aisle to make that trade off? Well, and that was a team that I know that will Cain and mentioned with the previous show earlier today, and it's one where you see them and they have three running backs, Jamal Williams and all the time on Gumri. And also Aaron Jones is backup suspension. They can't seem to get much going in the ground game. The Packers have clearly changed the way they operate from a personnel standpoint. It used to be they were basically a non-participants in free agency and also traits, but that has changed this off season under new GM. Brian Goudie kissed, this is a team had has plenty of the ingredients to win a championship this year. You can make a case, honestly named team fits. That's not Pittsburgh and I can make a case for them to try to acquire lady on bell. That's how unique of talent he is and you can't find the fan base. Realistically, you cannot find the fan base that wouldn't be just all over social media, yelling and screaming at the top of the lungs about how their GM is the smartest. If they got Levy on bell for a mid round traffic, even if it's for rental, your thoughts are welcome on the one, eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at Spain fits at Jason Fitz at field Yates field in for Sarah Steelers, bugs coming up on ESPN Monday night football at eight fifteen eastern, but straight ahead. Amazing. Only a thirty. One point favorite in college. Football was pushed to the limit, but who got to see it? That's good news, bad news next on Spain and Fitz field in for Sarah on ESPN radio. Thanks for listening to the Spain and Fitz podcast. 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NFL is getting soft - Are the Patriots falling apart

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

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NFL is getting soft - Are the Patriots falling apart

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I was in the gym yesterday, gist yoked, drinking, my core water look like, I look like a supermodel. I really did. I'm not kidding you. I did. I was like, you look good. I was looking in the mirror that was like the typical weightlift guy, right? Looking in the mirror going, your muscles. They look good. They look really good anyhow, but that was my store your story. Probably not the same because you're probably never gonna cheat the kind of body. I have. It's beautiful. Anyhow, long story short. You should hydrate with core like I do award winning Chris clean taste wide mouth bottle. Perfect. For faster hydration, you combine core water, your neighborhood? Seven. Eleven. It's the one with the blue cap core ph balanced water, learn more at hydrate with core dot com. You know what else? I like my, I like tuna fish. Do you like tuna fish in tuna fish sandwiches, so. Okay. So everybody has. It's like a fart. It's your own flavor. You like you don't mind your own flavor. Nazi. No people. You know what, though, but like like if somebody else farts you like. Right? But if you do it, you're a that's pretty. It's not too bad loves basking. Right? Just tuna fish like how like I have to do to a certain way that probably makes people going to think that I'm like, what is your? What's your like? I like chunky tuna. Like I like stuff in my tune it like. I like I like I like celery. Green onions. Okay. I like to call them scallions scout because you're, you know, maybe a little onion in there. I mean the the chunkier the choppier. The better, really? Yeah. Really, you may not. I don't like it to manage. Oh, all right. So here's how I, here's how I do this is gonna sound crazy to you, but this how? I do tuna tuna, a good amount of man as so it's kind of it's not like it's not straight man as easy, but it's it's got. It's like a, it's a softer texture. You know, I want big chunk onion in there. Just the, you know, the the white shanked onion area, big chunk preach then sweet relish. No, no, we know sweet relish. You got a little like sweet and sour is like it's like it's like going to panic express and getting sweet and sour pork. You just ruined the tuna. No, I didn't know that's you've never tried it. I know I have and I, I will. I will stop. No, I have. I have. He says, how about sweet chunk? I do this to the spicy, like the hotter sweet pickles dirt, yes, Charlie dot, yes, yes, you would do that, but we're not all relish. Okay. But what I'm saying I will. What I'm saying is I like the sweet pickles or or I'll put if I don't have sweet pickle relish in my tuna. And so now you've got a a bitter sweet, you know, like like sweet and sour prawns it's a, it's an oxymoron is the tuna oxymoron that I like. It's delicious. You've never had my tune of now. Sorry, we're on opposite sides of the tuna debate. Just like run opposite sides of these quarterback. You're eating your union, low rent tuna. Just these, these quarterback. I'm high rent. Tunica quarterback rules the quarterback, hitting the the quarterback rules. Oh, my has everybody in a busy. I'm busy get ready to Gary to fight because we disagree on this. Can you disagree with this rule? Is stupid? How? How is how could anybody that likes football? Not agree with something has got to be done. I'm like the preseason, right? The preseason was all about the helmet rule helmet rules, ridiculous. And in the NFL goes, we're going to review the helmet rule. Then they came back out and said, hey, listen, we're not changing anything, the rules written correctly, and then all of a sudden they had this clandestine meeting, you know, and they quit calling the helmet rule. Have you noticed that like the helmet rule was everything that's all we talked about, then you know everybody was up in arms about the helmet rule, how stupid was, and then all of a sudden it disappeared. We're not talking about the helmet role anymore because they're not calling it anymore. That's my prediction. Everybody's up in arms about how stupid the NFL is for not. I mean. I understand if I hit a quarterback and I pick them up and I drive him that that's a penalty. I'm good with that. Everybody's good with that, and I think I can discern watching it either live or on tape if a guy does that or not, but your penalizing tackles, that's what you're penalizing and that can't be in. I understand my that they are the franchise understand the commodity. That is the quarterback, and I understand that people come to watch the quarterback play. I get all that, but you can't take tackling out of football. You can't take all contact out of football in regards to the quarterback. You can try you. You just made my point four me because quarterbacks are the most precious of commodities. They are what drives football teams. In many cases there why people tune into football games? You've got to go to whatever lengths, even if it means further. Worst fi in the game. To protect these quarterbacks. Look if I'm a Green Bay Packer fan, how did my season change last year when Aaron Rodgers went down and I had I was forced to watch Brett Hundley. All of a sudden I knew instantly my season was over. I was less enthused about watching the Green Bay Packers play. If I'm a TV network and I had four more Packer games on national television. Suddenly I'm looking for excuses to be able to flex somebody else into that game. And even if I'm not a Packer fan, the prospects of watching the Packers on national television without Aaron Rodgers. All of a sudden I'm like, yeah, I can find something else to do it. There's so many consequences if these top quarterbacks get hurt. So you know what you do. You do whatever it takes even if it seems ridiculous to protect these guys. I understand they have to be protected. I get that, but you can't get to the point where all right, then put it on the quarterback. If you see somebody that's about the hit, you just fall down. Self sack yourself. Do the Peyton Manning, but you cannot say, hey, just on a regular tackle. If I regularly tackle a guy or by accidentally bump into a guy, it's an automatic flag. So in the first two weeks of the season going into week three, I looked at it twenty one personal fouls set a record most personal fouls for for for against the quarterback. You know what wherever illegal contact or whatever they whatever they're calling right now. So more fouls Twenty-one for you know, hitting the quarterback. Now it's up to what thirty six thirty six thirty seven sixteen last week. So that would make what twenty one plus sixteen one. Thirty-seven. Right thirty seven illegal, illegal contacts on the quarterback. I mean. It's asinine and most of them are just tackles. Most of them shouldn't draw a flag even when the quarterbacks are coming out and saying, man, I hate to be a defensive player like this rule is ridiculous. So either you self sack your the quarterback, should self sack, put it on his like 'have, you'll and self sacrificing a hit, either. Put it on the quarterback, or if I'm a defensive player, I rather the rest of the defensive troops around the lead together and save frontier Justice this what they want. I am going to try to break jaws. I'm going to try every quarterback I hit. I'm going to try to break his frigging jaw and all trade one. For one your quarterback for claim athletes, your quarterback for von Miller, your quarterback for Khalil Mack, and we'll see, you know how quickly they changed their tune in the league office because what you're what you're doing is you're saying, hey, we want you to play football, but we don't actually want you to play football like you're like. Klay. Matthew said it. He used the four letter word that is the nastiest word football. He called the league soft. And I don't know about you, Mike, but. I still marvel. I'm at a different game every week. I marvel at this game. I'm marvel at the hits. I like they, I washed for that. It makes me excites me. There's still blood sport to it. There's still this gladiator mentality to it. I watched it today and I'm like, I can't believe I played this game. These dudes are crazy, and I get that you wanna watch the quarterback, but man, I wanna watch football. I don't wanna watch, you know, fake football. Like if I wanna watch that I watch soccer, I'm not interested. Okay. Sorry. Great speech, great speech. Okay. And I get the passion. I feel the passion you're getting ready in two weeks for FOX to call San Francisco in Arizona. Right? Yeah. How do you feel now about the prospects of going to do a game involving CJ Beathard playing quarterback as compared to a couple of days ago when you were thinking you were gonna go, see, Jimmy Garoppolo. No biggie, no difference. His was a non contact. I know I know, but I'm just talking about the. The the high profile marquee exciting quarterback. That's not gonna be there. How'd you feel because after what you just said it shouldn't make any difference. It's still football, right? Do you wanna can't answer that supports my supports my position while you're honest answer, I don't want to give you my honest answer, right. Come on the cans. Make my point. Hey, CJ bet that what a great opportunity for him to come out there and you know, really show his wares and you know, I mean, established himself as a young quarterback that's going places. And I think he might even be the grandson. I haven't researched this and I'm not gonna Google it because that would take time out of my busy schedule, but he could be the grandson Abbadi better. Bobby better draft me. I could make this whole game about me. It is my favorite subject. So why wouldn't I. Different was the honest difference. The honest is I want to see Jimmy Garoppolo sure shirtless, but that's, you know what. Oh. Guy's handsome. I wanna delete that. I don't know. No, I want to see him play and send the league needs to do whatever they can to make sure these guys are out there and you, you may not like it, but don't give me this bid and I hear this all the time. And whenever I make this case, I get inundated with all Evans, you're a pussy and all this and that you know what, you know what it is. All I know is that all I've heard for the last few years off leaking, soft. It's being worst defied, you know, this isn't a football. I grew up with guess what? Seventy? One of the top one hundred shows on television last year were NFL games. The so-called worst of the NFL won't hurt the NFL. You lose marquee quarterbacks that will hurt. I, that that will hurt more. I also think though Mike, I think so you cannot legislate contact out of a contact sport of you. If you keep doing this is like. Like I look at the NFL they're like the captain the Titanic right there annoys burgeon in this water full steam ahead. No, they're icebergs. There's a lot of them in this water, and you've got to be careful in the the thing that will kill the NFL more than anything in its killed. So many companies along the way. It, you know what is killing right now. It's killing television right now. In that is organising national arrogance. You television's big issue us like network television network. Television is dead. They don't know it yet, but it's dead. So what's killed television and I'm part of the industry. So I I've, I've witnessed it firsthand. The money continues to to dissipate to diminish probably is the right word. It continues to diminish, you know, they didn't say. They didn't account for. YouTube and they didn't account for the digital platform that will be drawing the attention of the younger generation of television viewers. They just said a, it's always been this way. Everybody's always tuned into, television know keep tuning to tell. But no, they won't. They're cutting cable. I mean, most of the kids mostly like my own kids. Like they grow up with television, but they've even thought I told him to expensive. I can get everything I need on Netflix, Hulu, whatever. You know, I don't even know how to get net flicks dude. I watch the Emmys. I tuned in watch the Emmys for a wildcat fast forward through it, but I was just watching it right and all the nominees for the best TV shows. I'm like, what show is that? What was that? Because if it wasn't on ABC NBC CBS FOX, I was like, I don't know if these shows and they're all on their on Hulu Amazon. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Whether these, I guess I gotta watch these shows, but, but now we're toes you like, oh, were there's nothing. Zere we're going to be good, you know, and all sudden all these other things crop up and all these digital platforms crop up and you're like, the next thing you know, you know that the less Munoz world is still making a lot of money, but everybody else has gotta have four like Mike NFL is still I, I'm telling you that they're, they're still there day reckoning. Still aways down the road. I get it their day, right, but but instead of ignoring it and turning a blind eye to it, nag log, it's never gonna come, you better. You better start looking at it and going. Okay. And I know they are from a business standpoint, right? We've seen games on Yahoo and we've seen games on Twitter, right? And we've seen, you know, these, these gains when they go to NFL Europe, they're on, you know, some streaming Amazon prime platform or whatever it is, but I'm just I'm just telling you if you eliminate the blood thirst that we have for this game and you take it out. I mean, that's why I started lifting again made a comeback. You totally eliminate contact. I'm making a comeback, but you do realize that if you just brought back the complete bloodlust and then like tomorrow the NFL said, you know what? It's gone to SaaS. Quarterbacks are regular football players. They can be hit like any other players hit. You understand that by the end of the season, half of your starting quarterbacks will be out. So what's that gonna mean for your league? Get stronger quarterbacks. Fine guys that are tougher. Right. No, I'm right. Put them in, put them in kevlar uniforms, you know, I'm right. They can bulletproof, you know arm, right? That hate you. I do. Let's be like, all right. I get the protection, but you, you can't say that they're not allowed to be tackled some of like the other night in the Pittsburgh game when they called the flag on the on the guy who just brushed Rothlisberger helmet, that's ridiculous. Kamala dancer Matthews driving, just pile driving. This attack was wasn't a pile drive. I'll show you a pile drive. Actually, I've been on the receiving. It's not very comfortable. But I think again, I think you have to use common sense. And I think I, I think I can see the difference between a penalty and even if you have to go back to replay, we have replay. Let's go to a replay official that actually know something about football and say, was that excessive or not? And if it looks like a regular tackle, say, hey, we've picked up the flag. There's no, there's no fly for roughing. The Pat. I just think you're, you're trying to apply common sense to these franchises meal tickets. And I think when you're looking at preserving the health and the marketability of these franchises, meal tickets and common sense is not going to be included in the conversation. Well, you like you're probably right, but. I don't like it and nobody likes it. And I think it's like, like I said, you know, God forbid somebody go total frontier. Justice just are trying to take out quarterbacks because then you're really in trouble. You know, now that frustrated you once. Frustrates you again l. all your boy and his boys. I think this time around it's for real, the demise of the patriots. You think it's over. I know I got to say that at my own peril. You know, because there have been playing other times in the last few years we've taken early season results instead on matrix dawn, but doesn't it. After what you saw Sunday night, does it feel different. Maybe because it's back to back live for them it. It does feel different and you know my. You know, my undying lion love for TB twelve, and I had to be honest after two weeks of picking the patriots to cover and them let me down the way they've let me down. I'm not saying we're separated but were on a break. Ooh. We are on a break just like Ross and Rachel. You can still get back together with them. Right. But right now right now on a break, I, Tom, I need a little time. Everybody needs a little time. A pay, Tom heard me see. From. So I am. Here's the deal. This doesn't happen very often in football. I look at that team and I'm with you man, like where there's smoke, there's fire, you know nothing to see here. Everybody's making a big deal of the patriot like we're okay. We're the patriots there. There was real angst within that organization. There was a real rift between TB twelve and and Darth Vader. I mean they did you see him not high five in the kids at the game. The other day, what a dick? It wasn't dick who was almost just like, that's beautiful. The core, right? Anyhow, I, that was funny, but the reason I brought this up was. There are very few times over the course of my life in football where the the energizer or the actuator or the toughness distributor of football team offensively as a wide receiver doesn't have very often. They missed Julian element because he is the energy provider for that football team. He is the attitude provider for that football team. He's the guy that sets the tone. Like if I go back through time in in my career, kind of covering this game was Hines worn for Pittsburgh. He was the dude that that got them rolled, you know, got them revved up, got them rolling. It was Steve Smith, whether it was in Carolina or in Baltimore. He was the actuator that offense. He was the guy that got them fired up and it's been Julian Edelman in New England, but they didn't have last year. They had him for why towards knee last year awhile, right? But they made a Super Bowl run without at that time they lost at that time. I don't know if you remember that. Yes. Okay. You're familiar with the end result? Yes. Okay, good. So, but but he is a guy at that point. They were already established by the time, blew his knee. They blues knee what November or something like that. So they were already established. They were already rolling and come on the rest of the AFC. I mean, what are they have to go through Pittsburgh. I mean, that's like for them anytime they face Pittsburgh, that's a, that's a rollover job. But like he is the guy that brings the energy, the attitude, he's guy that gets people fired up. They desperately missed Julian Edelman. They'll get him back after this week. They'll also were Josh Gordon, who's on the sideline who didn't play. He'll work into the system whether he's going to be great or not, who knows? But I think that's going to go a long way to kind of solving some of the issues. But I don't think I still look at them at one and two. I don't look at them like, oh, it's over. They'll probably end up twelve and four, eleven and five. But I do think it it points to the fact that there were real issues within that organization as much as they try to poop who those issues. You can't go those issues. I don't know. I don't know. I, I've heard that that, hey, they're back to football now and now that they're back to football, they'll get back to the way they've always done things, but think about it. Yeah, rob gronkowski come out and admit, yeah, they tried to trade me and I said, no. So you, you got a guy that is out going about his business right now knowing that his team wanted him gone and would have if they could have you've got. My view of the patriots from afar, and you tell me is somebody that you know has talked to guys knows guys that played inside it, but it requires a tremendous amount of. Ability to put up with a lot of crap. You know, it's hard shoe. I mean, they make it hard, and, but what's worked over the years is that. The the buy in of Brady has been such that, hey, if Brady can do it, we can doing right. And if all of a sudden now you're coming off a season, an offseason where Breyer's like, nah, I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to the OTA's skipping everything I can skip. I'm only going to be at the stuff I have to be at. That that sends a message that the buy-in isn't as in ironclad as it used to be. So now that's how it starts to slip. Now, us down players start looking at. Well, if Brady's not going to buy in as much. Right. Well, maybe I don't buy brands you to criticize the the Malcolm Butler decision, and everybody else is going to be critical of that and wonder what happened there. Then we're all gonna look at Bill bell. Jake. Maybe we circumvent his authority to some degree and maybe that's why he won't high five people. But there is the idea that, hey, I gotta listen to ballot check and I gotta listen everything he's saying because Brady is right. But if Brady's not now does Bella chicks message get stale, does it get tuned out? And by the way I'm looking over there at rob gronkowski. He wasn't around during the offseason how they didn't want them here in the first place. The only reason he's here because he's loyal to Tom. I just I, I think this time the issues run a lot deeper and they're not just going to go away because they're simply playing football games. Now. I don't. Yeah. I don't think just because they're playing football games is going to go away. I think that Julian Edelman solve some issues for them that they're having authencity. And when you star having success and you have a guy that you rely on a guy that is the guy that gets in the face of people and brings energy, then all of a sudden like winning when you're losing and putting up with Bill Belichick and you know, grumpy, mccrone person that's really hard when you're winning. It makes it. You know, it makes it. Palpable. It's like, you know, smothering crow, in my green chili, you eat straight crow. It's either like real greasy and gamey or, you know, it's probably like Ruffin chewy. You throw at my green chilly on Saint by. Right? So I mean, it's like smother and Bill Belichick and my green chili. And then just, ah, lapping it up. Well, delicious. Now maybe you might want to. You know, look at our kicks over the last couple of weeks as maybe who's right, and who's wrong about the patriots. All I know is the last two weeks. I've bet against the patriots, and I've won in new road the patriots, and you lost with this be a good time to bring up. Our moneymaker picks from last week. I mean, I suppose you could do it if you wanna be a dick, go ahead. I went three. Oh, did you took Detroit over to New England took Pittsburgh over Tampa, took Indy plus a seven over Philly. Win, win win. You went indie plus seven point game. But Indy. I was getting indie plus the points. Oh, Indy plus. Okay, Gotcha. Jan city you want do this while I'm losing understand how this works. Minus seven or San Francisco. You cover that Green Bay minus two and a half over Washington. You lost that and you had New England minus seven over Detroit. You lost that. So up to the date stats, I am six and four. You are for five and one. So fresh picks coming up later in the week. Dammit. All right, only place. He started on top when you digging a hole Mike. I like, you know, you can't have a great comeback unless you're behind, jeez, and I love great comebacks about if you get caught looking in the future, you'll trip over the present. How about if if. The past is something in the president is something in in in the futures, and then now is that's now is now, and that's why they call it a president. I saw. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Yeah. You know what? And your ball as your ball full uncle looks really good in address that. That's part of that quote. I don't. I don't remember the whole thing now might be the time to end. All right. Every everybody involved in the show. We'd like to thank you for listening. Thanks to our presenting sponsor core water who brings his program to you. Free of charge like we could actually charge for this piece of crap out for Mike for Scott look, really good in gym, who I do look good ought to post a picture. Are you? Are you the guy that you know before you work out? You shower. Are you the guy before you work out work without show Cologne on or something like that guy, we have seen that guy. He's all shower. He's getting Aldo primed in colonie, and then all of a sudden he actually goes out and workout. That's like the the d. bag that match that where's the matching shorts and tee shirt? No, I what's that tucked in. Oh, he's got the got the like, do the thing is driving me. Crazy right now is dues in yoga pants like doodoo starting to wear. Oh, yes. Like do dozer yoga pants. Dude, seriously. Moose knuckle, dude, it's time to move on from the right. Nobody wants to see your shank. Right, right. Never heard a call. I'm gonna steal. I mean, nobody wants to see that do take put some shorts over your yoga pants or just come in a pair dingy sweats and a t shirt tank top guy with your nipples hanging out. Nobody wants to see that Luke. Oh. You know what's to see your Bank. All right. That's all I'm going to take his podcast. We got into thing I will are. We will be back with you later on of the week. Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.

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Full Show (Gordon to Pats, Packers/Vikings, Steelers' unrest, Jags rolling)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

1:55:20 hr | 2 years ago

Full Show (Gordon to Pats, Packers/Vikings, Steelers' unrest, Jags rolling)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Johnny Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate, so skip, Shannon, let's get to it. Good morning. Welcome to undisputed live from LA. I'm Jenny Taft here. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe. You too. Good morning, Judy her you today. Great. How are you looking? Thank you. Start here. Old. Okay. I don't care why you always think somebody try the team up again. I just have one question Jerry Jones. Are you awake yet? You still they're still out there? I don't know. Is he still there? I don't know. What do you retire? I don't know where he went. What's happened? Just won't everybody to become the cowboy. I just don't get it how Nobel that's where you were saying. I'm about not to be. Why surived my first Monday after a Cowboys win. So that was good. But now let's hope, Greece, juries, watching today. We'll see to survive. It was great. It was fun survival. Yeah. Won't be like that way. Wanna battle next week. No, I'm not. Well, next week. I don't know because they are facing the Seahawks and they may be in trouble. We're gonna talk about that on today's show. Also Donio Brown is upset. Carson Wentz is back, but we are going to start with a huge trade in New England. Josh Gordon is a patriot pending a physical Gordon's to mulch. W-w-we, seven seasons with Cleveland are over after the patriots traded. If fifth round pick to get him, Gordon led the league in receiving yards back in two thousand thirteen, but after multiple suspensions for violating the league's substance abuse policy, he's only played in eleven games since then we all know New England needs help at receiver. Shannon, is this a good move or a bad move by the patriot. Skip considering what they have at the wide receiver position and the notion that coach bell check doesn't do anything to try and help. Tom Brady. I think he's dispelled that people look at a at the organizational structure and they said, well, if he doesn't get the quarterback receivers, he's not trying to help the quarterback. Sometimes it's getting them out of lamb and sometimes it's shoring up your deepens to make sure that when your quarterback give you a lead, you're able to hold it. So he went and got him, Corey Coleman, and Bennie. Fowler he was trying to cut a okay rent a Jordan us keep going. They've had twenty eight moves at the wide receiver position since the since March. But when you look at Josh Gordon, tell me the the fifth round draft pick that they could possibly have selected with that fifth round. Pick that give them the potential or the upside in with Josh Gordon, give them nothing. This guy think about it as Jenny read. He's only played eleven games. He led the league in receiving, but he's only twenty seven thirty seven twenty seven years of age. You talking about six foot three and a half, two hundred twenty five to thirty that can run the Rowntree explosive. Give out of three game stretch and this what? Minnesota in Minnesota. This what? New England cunning on. He went for like two thirty, eight to sixty three one fifty one against the patriots. There's like, wow, if each of gives a half of that we're good. I don't know how many people listen. Tom Brady said they were doubling gronk and that was the opportunity for some other guys to to kinda step up in any kind of didn't happen. So we basically say bad. I got trae. I'll play with trash. I don't know him to take shots by teammates, but you got me. I here that possible. Tommy went to daddy when overbill chicks head and said, Mr., Kraft, would you go get me? Josh Gordon, I don't know, skip, I believe the Browns realized it was time to move on and maybe a change of scenery. What Josh Gordon might be after the first second fifteen time that the Browns stood behind Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon realize one thing I'm immensely talented, and the likelihood of them moving on from me is not highly unlikely because of what they saw missed two games led the league receiving was suspended for ten games back earth game out the box against the gates. I go get your book and we win the game. So he knew he had built up cache, shape because of his athletic ability, which made it unlikely for the Browns to move on. But no matter how nice someone is. Even they have limits and the Browns seemingly have their limits because they, you know what another enough is time in maybe a change of scenery. If I know you mentioned that the Cowboys Cowboys. Are you wait the only handle organizations that can handle this? Are you really in the put him in that locker room with Randy Gregory with David Irving with that situation with Zeke, you'll Elliott, is that what you wanted that give it is? I don't think so. Whole team, maybe birds of a feather. They can all Jedi do. They help each other? Do Dono normally to that, which have to one thing and. The patriots or quip to handle this because of coach Bela check because Tom Brady and because everybody else followed that structure, there's no splintering. There is no bickering you don't hear. You don't see was coming out of Pittsburgh locker room. You don't see you. Don't hear that coming out of knowing locker room now we've had some dysfunction as far from the top office from the front office. Yeah, but you don't hear anything coming out locker room. The patriots are quick to handle this. I hope Josh Gordon can get his life together his life, not as football life, his life off the field because clearly the resin the message that was coming out of Cleveland. It wasn't resonating with him for whatever reason. Maybe he didn't respect them. Maybe he was comfortable for whatever. Now he has to get out of his comfort zone. He has to learn a new system. He has to go someplace. He hasn't been before. I hope it works out, but remember now granted, he's only twenty. Seven believes only played eleven games in about four years. At some point in time, you just don't get to maintain their athletic ability without sharpening that scale. It's going to be very interesting. Everybody keeps saying Randy moss. I don't know if that's going to be the case that they can catch lightning in a bottle. This is a game changer who this is a game changer because what you do if you double grump and you leave that guy one on one, you asking for problems and. Double him. That means you got to leave wanna one and you're asking for problem and nobody wants those kind of problems. They don't want that. Did you see what Cordeiro Patterson did the other day. He's kick returner trying to math rate rate as wide receiver on the one thing third-down play. He caught it going backwards and just stumbled and fell. I'm sure Tom Brady's money's like, that's it. That's over that. What you got an hour. Josh Gordon Cordeiro try got Josh Gord name into the receiver other Iraq. That is correct. So I told you yesterday, I am speaking more with my heart then my head, I admit it right up front, but I know Josh Gordon just well enough to know, I believe is heart is in the right place. Now the rest of I'm not sure about right, but he's a deep kid and he's still a kid at twenty seven, and he has high off the field I q, I'm not shout translates into his personal life and his football life. But he continues to say, I just don't love myself enough and it sort of tears at my heartstrings because I get that where he's immensely gifted. But there times when he just says whatever he gets down on himself, and then he goes over the edge, maybe the good that makes bad decisions. He makes bad decisions and he's made a whole bunch a long line of bad decisions that would scream at you. No, no, no, no, no, right. In the Browns finally said, no. Now why they traded him. They said they want to trade him in the NFC, but they trade him to the best team in the AFC. I don't get that one, but that's fine by the patriots. So I said yesterday, if I am Jerry Jones, I would risk a fifth round pick as a high risk, high reward plunge just to see if you could catch lightning in the bottle in Dallas because he's a Houston kid. I'm pretty sure he grew up a cowboy fan as he went to Baylor University for a little while before he got booted out of there. But the point is maybe if he goes to Dallas, I don't know. Maybe it would work. Maybe the change of scenery would work. Maybe putting on that metallic blue. He'd say, okay, I'm business now not a Cleveland Brown, a Dallas cowboy and what did Bill Belichick do he did exactly what I wanna Jerry Jew. He gave a fifth round pick for Josh Gordon, and you know what? I just have this sneaking suspicion that Tom break. Eighty has his next Randy moss while Jerry Jones does not have his next Dez Bryant in again before I get deeper into what the patriots have. Just remember Jerry continues to do nothing to send messages to the locker room. I'm all in for twenty eighteen. It looks like he's only going to go the extra mile for twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. He's going to pay what he has here. He's going to go ahead and pay Dak pays. Zeke pay the offense of line. But as far as plunging and going out and getting Khalil Mack, the way the bears are going out the way the Rams did and get sue and get to leave and get speeders and get Brandin cooks. Did that not put them right to the top of the map? They look like the best team, right? It's because of their off-season moves. You're sending messages to the locker room and you can certainly appreciate this. I'm all in for twenty eighteen. That's what that would do. So Jerry did offer to Earl Thomas in the rug got jerked out from underneath him. Abe. April Fools Jerry. It's actually now a one and he's Tango, I'm out, obviously Jerry made a bid. I think for Sammy Watkins who's now tearing it up for the Kansas City. And I don't know how much he offered, but Kansas City offered a lot more. That's not Jerry's IMO. He doesn't lose bidding wars with anybody. If you know you're gonna move up their brand while they go ahead and pay, you have to get somebody. So you don't have a new Jason Witten and you don't have a desk Bryant and your your receivers. I'm not even sure you have a number two. You have a whole bunch of number three's and you're going to get by with the whole collection of number three's you got Zeki but you've got a bunch of number three's and you don't have any tight ends that I can see except guys who can be blocked. That's ask them an awful lot to bring this key right into that locker room. Okay, I got it. But let's watch what this kid does for Tom Brady. So let's do the Randy moss comparison. I'm going to remind everybody. Randy moss was thirty years of age when he finally landed in New England and I was close to. A lot of people in Oakland the year before that when he flat out quit on the Oakland Raiders and they were convinced he was just done with football in general, right. The he'd sort of worn out, he'd taken too many hits. He just didn't enjoy it anymore. And I'm looking at these numbers in Oakland that you're, they went to and fourteen. Now again as quarterbacks were Andrew Walter, Aaron, Brooks two and fourteen, they split time. They started eight games and he caught forty two balls for five hundred thirty three yards and a grand total of three touchdowns in thirteen games with those two quarterbacks. Then he goes to Tom Brady, and again, the beauty was Brady, got him on the second day of the draft. So we had him for OT as and he had them for the whole preseason. So this is different now because Josh is gonna come in week three, right? So it's gonna be hard to develop any quick report and chemistry with Josh, scorn. But the point is look, Randy moss did he goes from forty? Two catches to ninety. Eight catches with Tom Brady. He goes from five hundred and thirty. Three yards at Oakland to one thousand four hundred and ninety three yards. He goes from three touchdown catches to NFL record twenty three touchdown catches from Tom Brady and the most amazing thing about that team which obviously went sixteen or no. They set the all time record for points scored on the road. They were going. It was like the road show. It was like a traveling rock concert. They were lighting people up. They were scoring outrageous points on the road. Three hundred. Fourteen points scored fifty six at buffalo forty nine at Miami forty eight at Dallas, thirty eight at the jets and the giants will. I'm fit in your home. I'm not sure that was at home, but I'm not sure the road points will ever be broken. It's hard to break that man that was Tom Brady throwing to Randy moss. Well, all of a sudden now how does Josh compared Randy moss? He's not as fast. He's not as fly by you found on rainy Moss's four, two and Josh was timed at four, five. He looks faster to me on what we call a football does play a lot faster than he time. Yeah, I would agree. Now, Josh goes, you point out six three. He's listened to twenty five could be thirty ish or so. Randy was six, four slender more to fifteen, but still high football IQ Randy moss and I think Josh is a smart kid. I don't know about his football IQ, but can you still play? Could we just see that play the beast play that he made against Pittsburgh tied the score at twenty one all on opening Sunday, the National Football League. This is late in the game. He just goes up and snatches. It. Okay, that'll work. Can you see Tom Brady? So one of the few though. Oh, I could see a few of those that tied that game at journey one all and that was the final score as you think about us getting okay, a fifth round, but the patriots look at what the have, they have to twos. They could possibly get a two three compensatory picks when Nate solder combat. They go for them to give up a fifth round pick. That's really what's the likelihood of a fifth. They cut fifth round all times give and what built around again. What around are you going to drop the draft has been so skewed by Tom Brady getting out lie, Tom Brady with a sixth round draft, pick one ninety nine and everybody thinks they're going to find that that's in the hut a ninety nine year history that you found that guy around the seventh round, pick those guys normally get cooked. They do so for you to think that, oh, you give that up for Josh Gordon, who know that might have been taught. Really, you got your Tom Brady New England. You're not drafting another guy in the later rounds. Go turn out to be a third of what Tom Brady so for the patriots and they have the locker rooms. Again, the locker room that can handle this type of personality now that he's a bad kid that he goes in there and he called his trouble, but he just has issues and you don't wanna play on a team that has other players that have the very similar light issues. I think it'd been disaster in Dallas. Can you imagine skill Dallas? He's, he's a healing, takes us kid and you wanna few games here and there at all of a sudden the Cowboys are the toll to the the real toasted. They're already toes, but it start to win a little bit. Can you imagine the parties? You know what it was like in the nineties, it is sin city beyond loss. I get all that. But again, I just have this gut feeling. There's a hall of Famer in that kid if he ever finds himself and can keep himself somewhat eligible to play football for an extended period time, I think you're gonna see greatness from him. Not just good, but greatness Fleetwood his phone. Okay. Well, you know that he'll just he'll just cut. I mean there there you go up. So is it a stretch to say that he's the next Randy moss? Maybe, but it is impossibilities an x Ray moss. It's deathly. I think it's definitely possible that he would be that guy in a little different package because peaking get some report going with Tom Brady early on, and he's got a great opening because he's got two more games with no Julian Eshelman. Right? So all the sudden, here's a chance to go in nose to grindstone. And let's see what we can figure out on the fly, what it's gonna be hard tag. A Colorado's eight, Josh, a comeback, eight, Josh Rhona circus. Hey, Josh run. Go run. Oppo just hanging around until he gets to gets more proficient of hearing the terminology in knowing without tagging the route we have to do. But it's Tom Brady said on Westwood One last night to Jim gray, and I'm paraphrasing, but the wide receiver has to run exactly specific route. Yeah, exactly. We're supposed to be when he's supposed to be there or Tom Brady will say that's enough next up, right? Because he's going. If you look at a situation, you wash Jacksonville, they triple grop in the back leaks out of the backfield and he's looking at gronk. He covered. He goes to the back immediately. So he's counting on you to be where you're supposed to be win, you're supposed to be there. But if you just go ahead and tag it because it's gonna take a while you have to be very smart to play in this offense. Normally you have to play multiple positions. You have to think on your feet. They put, they put all their guys. Emotion is just not one said receiver that goes in motion, gronk OB motion. Dorthy ABI emotion, HOGAN goals in motion. When he comes back element, does a lot of the motion because Tom, it's trying to get a read, you moosh motion with a element or man. So he needs that. He's trying to get as much information that possibly can. But this is what he knows if Josh Gordon's on the field in gronk zone the field, you got the, you got to do something with one of those guys. So our friend, Chad Ocho Cinco. Now, Chad Johnson has told me that he was ill fated in New England, not because he couldn't grasp the playbook other reasons that whatever he couldn't be himself, he was kind of at the end of the line is a player and he gets mad if I say he just couldn't quite process the whole playbook fast enough for Tom Brady was more ad-lib in fifth and that if you call it around, let's just say for the sake of argument they had a and breaking route and the db lined up inside Chad would automatically know that Carson's gonna throw me out route so he just run out. That's not how it works in the England if they call. I don't care what I wanna back line. You run that route. So there is no ad-lib. There is no improvisation, you run said route what's Ocho Seco couldn't do that. So now all of a sudden you looking at like he didn't drop off the cliff like that because he's still could run. He's still had the jerk in his head sudden this meal, but he couldn't be himself. He couldn't add live when Tom says, I won't you ten roll the twelfth. All of the table ten to twelve roll out the table if the DB's lineup outside, don't you run in you. Cried across space. I got the feeling back in two thousand four and Cincinnati that Carson Palmer would basically say in huddle TJ is in TJ. You run a slant in Chad. You just go along. Get open, just run off, find you. I'll just throw it out there and you go run to. Right, so can how quickly can Josh processes? I'm gonna guess pretty quickly. Look, here's the basic bottom line difference did Randy moss occasionally have some recreational drug issues going on that didn't really affect him on the field maybe so. But in Josh's case, he's got way beyond recreational drug issues that have plagued him his whole life, his whole football live back to high school. So can he beat the demons? They suggested some of the Browns insiders that he showed up Saturday, not himself and is like. That was it like now. I mean, is it possible? He's gonna fail another test and get suspended again because if he gets spin it again, I don't know for how long although they seem to over year, but they seem to be loosening up on the drug Elsie to some degree. I don't know, seems like in the Randy Gregory situation, but, but again, I think bell check just made a really sweet move. Think it could pay off high dividends. Really, no downside of this because they don't really have receivers now that they can count on the Gobi man covered when gronk getting double and triple team. Like I said, if gronk and do his thing would they spend so much attention to him and you have element because you have the double him because he's doing in and out where you lose Chris, HOGAN, but when grow and then you're like, okay, they take AJ boy, we're HOGAN going. I don't know. I don't even know how Tom Brady scored twenty points at Jacksonville, seriously. I think it was a minor. Miracle scored twenty points what he was throwing too because he ends up hitting Chris HOGAN for the last two touchdowns in Chris, HOGAN undrafted out Monmouth former lacrosse player Riley. All right. He'll he'll flash. There's a reason why he went undrafted. He will flash he can make some plays. That's your go-to. No, no, no, no, no long. Ride guy and teams are going to make a concerted effort to take grunk out of this world. You need a guy like like like that. Yeah, this guy's the game changer. This guy, he scares everybody if any, if any quarterback can make Josh. Work make make him find himself on and off the field believe it's Tom Brady, so good them play with a guy growing up. My job was to get into the field was we got him to the field. I had to go wake him up, make sure he came came to school because back then if you didn't come to school, you couldn't play my job with the get into the field. Then what happened? Oh, he hailed, but then what happened to it. When you went on with savannah state or what I could no longer get him up, do we will young. We're like number twelve, but when I can no longer get him up. That's it. Do you know where he is today? Thank you, begging. My hometown eight. No, had some problem with living life. He was way more talented. I was way more talented and I was I was telling, but he had me be, but what he wanted to do in where he wanted to go in, what I wanted to do and where I wanted to. We're light years apart brings up that point about the talent of Gordon. We know what he can do. Hopefully a fresh start can do the body. Well, because that can happen. I hopefully production intolerance kill that production. And they were Cleveland tolerated as much as they could. But they say you haven't given us production a long time. So now the tolerance level is higher than production. I, we got let you go. Let's see what he can do. Okay. Skipping Shannon. Got heated over the clay Matthews yesterday, but did the league admit they made a mistake. We'll discuss. The NFL said, the roughing, the passer call against clay Matthews late in the fourth quarter. Sunday was the correct call league source reiterated yesterday that the technique of grabbing the passer from behind the leg or legs and scooping and pulling an upward motion is a foul in the NFL's senior VP of officiating said. He will remind clubs that the penalty has been on the books for several years and is not considered part of this season's point of emphasis related to defensive players landing on the quarterback. Okay. That was a lot Shannon. Tabei this explanation. What I said yesterday he did. He was as wrong. Interesting. Maybe you should work. Clayton wants to get off said he should be mad at Iran from getting hurt last year. When Anthony Barr landed on hill, it's getting, you know how this works. You give, you know what a bit Winnie Raj of think about this. Trent green got his me blown up by Rodney Harrison being hitting me. Okay, didn't change the rule. Carson Palmer in the playoff Kiko van Omaha. It wasn't until Tom Brady blew out his knee, getting hitting me in the pocket that they changed the room, how to Tony Romo get hurt skill Bayless how did he break his collarbone? What of David won't they giving? There's a my turn. Thomas Davis key cook which you mean he tipped him over and broken collarbone again, they didn't change the room. It wasn't appointed emphasis until Aaron Rodgers left the pocket. Anthony Barr, put him on his shoulder. This is how it worked. They said, this rule is always been on the FEC. It's kinda like incidental context. Remember this that's rule is always been in the book. But now if they point of emphasis, this was a point of emphasis in the preseason because we saw it called much more now. They had fifteen roughing the passer penalties in week one. Now, last week it was six this week. It was six. Now last average about seven a week, so we're pretty much on the on par, but what we see is that what about the games that it didn't come down to a situation where the Ruffin the penalty, the drive alive and they ended up tying the ballgame and we're in the overtime. I'm sure there was some of those and things like, but it was because clay Matthew, it was a national televised game and it kept the drive alive. Cousins goals down, lead the team to a test down two point. And we get the overtime that is being harped upon. But if you look at it and what they explained, it skipped scooped it any landed on top of it and I told you you couldn't do that, you finished? Yeah. Okay. I point of order. You're completely wrong about he landed on top of in because the NFL made it very clear. This was not the new body weight kind of penalty. They said everybody said, had nothing to do with body weight on top of Kirk cousins. That's a whole new facet to the new rule. Okay. But Tony critic called it after the game to the pool reporter like he burp them. He picked him up. Yeah, yeah. Scooped him up in the. Here's the phraseology from yesterday from a league source that you can't grab the passer from behind by one leg or both legs scoop to use your word up, pull him in an upward motion, and that is a foul. Okay. So I wanna. This again, I don't see any scoop. I don't see any birth. I don't see any pick him up off the ground. Don't see this more time. That's just straight on. Did he stop and pick him up and then slam him to the ground? Was it a body slam? No, it was not. You know what? It was seriously. It was a textbook, clean, easy tackle of a quarterback. That's all it was. So did he get there too, too late? Was it a lady? No, it was not a late hit it. Was there any helmet to helmet or hands to the face or head? There was none of that. Was there any what I used to despise continuation play, where some three hundred fifty pound pass. Rusher would come in a second. After the ball was gone and hit the quarterback and get to continue with him for five yards and barium in the turf. Did that happen? I didn't see that happen. I thought it was textbook clean. I thought he was pretty gentle with the quarterback. He just kind of put an arm around him and then pulled into the ground. He did not score. That's not a school that's not a burp scoop me. Her cousins deserves to be burp you, but. But. You said it was a textbook tackle is a textbook takes book explanation of the room in the west to be inside Metaxas book, spin job by the National Mall in? Yes, it is because you know what? I went through this twice with the NFL and this just drives me out of my skull because the first time was I was covering the Oakland Raiders two thousand one at New England. And again, I'm a Brady fan, but this launched the dynasty. This was the tuck rule, quote, unquote, call Rod Woodson coming by Tom Brady. Now let me saw Charles Woodson and knocking the ball. That's that's about as big a fumble as I've that's about as clean. A textbook caused fumble as force fumble as I've ever seen and Oakland recovers, and the game is over over and over one is advancing to the championship. And yet we were told the next day. All like national echo of this was the tuck rule. And I'm saying, no, it wasn't because the tuck rule is when a quarterback has the ball and starts to throw it and decides at the last second, no. No, that's a bad idea and loses the football, right. Well, let's just obviously already incomplete pass. That's the tuck rule. He then we were told that the tuck rule is once you do this and come all the way back to set, you can't knock the ball out of the quarterbacks. Yes, you can finish tucking its top. It's over. He is reset careers, ready to throw again. And here comes Charles Woodson and just knocks the ball free and Jon Gruden would have been going on to the AFC championship game. Right? They went to bed. He believed he believed that someone called from New York. Well, he told me that in the next reign came and told me that face to face pulled me aside to tell me, you know somebody called, it wasn't sometimes it was the somebody called because it went on like five minutes of review before they finally said. Whatever tuck. Okay. So then we get to the desk catch and obviously Dez caught cornered at Green Bay. It changes this whole game. It's a touchdown if we could see this and yet I had. I got sick to my stomach the next day because all I heard was this was not a catch because he didn't make a football move, but he catches the ball. He puts it in his left hand, he takes a step with it and then he tries to slam it on the goal line. He's trying to slam it on the goal line like a running back would for a touchdown. It's a touchdown in the ref on the spot signals. I think he's signally was down at the one, but again, they're going to score but fails give adding all that language all that wording. He didn't do a football move, or he didn't do that. Then you can't in this is a catch, but I had to hear the whole next day. He didn't make a football move, really. So the ref says it's a catch because he puts it down at the half yard line, right. Okay. So Dallas is going to score. Dallas is going to go ahead and Aaron Rodgers is going to lose yet another homegoing alive and six since he won the SuperBowl, he would have been four and seven. I heard that before. I remember like three or four years ago, the team at the one yard line and everybody said they were going to, they're going to win to go lose what happens, get the. Didn't loom? Well, DeMarco Murray would ram that we know. Oh, now you're Marco Murray better than bees, moly better. At that point, he led the league in rushing eight year, so I'll take DeMarco from one. I'll take Romo sneak from the one. I know you didn't get a, I'll take a fade the Dez from the half. Oh, so you you love. And that was when. Every week, you old. He's on the cover Rolling Stone and that was his year. So. So again, then the NFL comes out and just doubles down the next day. That was not a catch. Well, yeah, was I'm sorry, just was, what do they got to? What do you want to do? Just be quiet. Just let it lay where they can't criticize it. Okay. But, but again, it'll just come and go. Because you've do about skill about it because I've never seen anything like Green Bay getting robbed in Green Bay. I never thought I'd live to see that Green Bay is robbed at Lambeau, at least Dallas got robbed at Lambeau in twenty fourteen. I get that. That's that's predictable. But this was not predictable because this is a game overplay in which the head God, the head referee, Tony Caridi. It's right in front of him except clay sort of came in between him and the quarterback, but but the point is he pulls and throws a flag on a play that is game over for the pack. He didn't scoop in. It's just textbook. You already know I can already till I've talked you in those. Yes. Dietary homeboy, Abe rob about that if you in by the way, I don't know if we have this other play. Did you see the play on Brady in the game at Gerry? I know you're gonna do this play? Did you see the guy here? It is. Here is what a second. Oh, it's exactly who he. He he body waited do not know flag no flat. He he actually drove eighty into the turf that was much more severe than all I Matthews deal. I love you more severe. True. Okay. Just be the flag just because they, that's the golden boy, right? Just because they didn't get just because Brady didn't get the call. Doesn't mean that Klay. You shouldn't have been called c, two things can be true. They missed that one and can lay committed the foul not call it on Tom. This yards Trump horse, Tom Brady threw his in the tenth row because he knew he didn't have anybody open Kirk cousins through his to a pack. Tom Brady, Tom Brady has gotten more than his fair share. If he don't get another call, the talk rule should been enough time rated with relatively little after that. He's never gotten one. I don't remember one drill to real brush by faith once and they call them. You remember that the playoff game. I don't remember that you don't remember it memory fogs. Oh, now you got to. The fall. Okay, so, but on the same day that they're cracking down, housing, Gok way, not get something on that. You can even give them a warning like a little. They missed it officials miscall sometimes, but just because they miss Brady doesn't mean that that Klay Matthew shouldn't have been flagged for penalties to things see you these guys, that only one. I don't even know how clay Matthews. I don't know how he doesn't do anything. What do you do you arrive just as the ball is leaving. Kirk cousins, hands, simultaneous, contact will do you, what do you dive sideways? Do you? I don't know punter if you don't think you can block the punt you have to sort of fall sideways, so your void? Roughing the kicker right. These guys are good, learn how to do it. Guess what the remember the time the defense used to be able to hear slap and off his Lama had to block like this. And so now they can extend the hand, you could do hands to the fate all that. Yeah, so they'll they'll, they'll it out, but this is what this, what the NFL what the fans won't scoring is up there on pace to have the third highest score and see the NFL history. That's what fans want to see. This is why you see guys growing for four hundred yards and six touchdowns like it's nothing like a man to k kind, but that's what they want. So last year Aaron Rogers had left the pocket. He's rolling to his left is fair game. It is open season. He threw the football need. Let go the golden football and Anthony Barr comes in and it's to me number one, it's late and number two, it Willie, he body waited him. He came down on the collarbone with full force and thrust, and that's what they're trying to eliminate. I'm good with that, but that's not what hap-. With Klay Matthew, what happened in the championship game win told her goose got rich again in the same way. He picked him up. Exactly. And they didn't for flying. Last one football was football, right? But guess what? People don't wanna see the two thousand ravens skip. They don't wanna see people beat people up like that. They want the forty points a game. They wanted to quarterback the pro for four or five hundred. Seven eight touchdown passes. Why receiving getting fifteen sixteen catches? They don't wanna see that type of football. They don't do. They want to see a game. Fairly one in fairly lost was that's not what happened on Sunday. It was. It was unfairly won or tied Green Bay could have made. This could've made. You're not talking about, could've made it moot because all they had to get another touchdown. They want for five in the rhythms getting well, Aaron Rodgers. Go visit your health that your chance to take a shot hill. Klay, Matthew scooped him, then they're you school. He did not Pame. Now you're seeing ghosts like their tone said yesterday, brainwashed. You said it before they did hardly establishment laugh, but then you know, big brother isn't watching you big brother speaking, though. You you try to get controlling, you try to do you try to get me thought on my part time. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't put together also, that's what's happening here is that really was? I don't know. I think you just what exposed yourself. I don't know. You know what thing that you know, I call it one thousand. Okay. You know, declare because some people know what you're talking about. No. You're talking about your show show on FOX simultaneously, airs on NFL network driving, say, I don't know. You brought it up. Are you clear about what you try to say? I don't know. It kind of sounds that way. Just very talented has got multiple. I don't have any problem with that. They call your boy OJ shot in the poll. Do I'm trying to get my hustle hustle grind, fine with that. A couple of jobs over. Yeah, I've got the. Tony ground is a four time. Albro sixty touchdown catches and nine seasons, but he still has his critics. Former Steelers PR person called out until Neo on Twitter. Yesterday, said, quote, AB needs to think is lucky stars because he was drafted by a team that had been and Ben got AB paid, you know, darn well, he wouldn't put up those numbers for other teams. AB responded with boat trade me. Let's find out Shannon. What do you make of this exchange on Twitter. And a lot of receivers view. Their value is tied to catch them. Touchdowns AB had seventeen targets. He had nine catches sixty seven yards, but he watch, Sammy Watkins, go over hundred. He wants to repeal have ninety what Travis kills. We go over hundred. He sees the ball flying around on the other side and he's like, I'm better than them. And we throwing the ball just as much as them but are not receiving the benefit. A lot of what the receiver does skip, he's view hit. The value is tied to catch and touchdowns so he doesn't see if I get a great block and we win the game. Now I need catch it. I need twelve for buck fifty in two tools. We win. See, so you don't talk about and then he sees all these other receivers, having these monster days Antonio got fustrated. He led this guy goad him into it. Yeah. Quarterback is also a dependent position. There's a reason why coach Bela check took a chance on Josh Gordon. Now he has Tom Brady, Tom Brady have played a book of career what I did true number one receiver, and he's made it work. Tom Brady hadn't had a receiver win the last time. Tom Brady had a receiver make the Pro Bowl and win the Super Bowl. I'm not talking about wrong, but when he had random all ready to go into the Pro Bowl, but they went winning Super Bowl. Have he had with welcome west was going to the Pro Bowl, but they weren't winning Super Bowls. So Tom Brady's I can make this thing work, but those guys their value as if we win. If I run this route in somebody comes in behind me and catches the ball, I've done my job. Yeah, that's existed. But you have to convince yourself that it's your value is more than catching panther skip. You don't think I wanted to catch passes. So did add sorted rod and they work just as hard as I was. They studied just like idea, but sometimes it wasn't meant to be. Sometimes TD we're going to get thirty five catches for book eighty and Shannon, we'll have have the block. ABC's to understand that, but I don't. I I don't know what he needs to, but he's not going to know what might Tom let them do what they want. I mean, I agree. So once you open that skill, once he wants the Facebook live. What coach Tomlin was saying after win, they let them go out there. This is a few years ago. This is a fraction locker room because it is, we had, okay, this is what we're gonna do with the protests. Okay. Now you get one guy says, I need to see the flag. Another guy says, well, I need to see the feel and the coach says, we need to go out there and. After you would agreed the night before to do this all for one and one for all, and there you go. Wow. So AB AB doesn't wanna get traded. He? No, he has something especially with being. But Ben Rothlisberger would not be making the money he's making. Had he stayed in the same office that he had on the coach car will turn it around handing the ball roll medicine. Willett par degree goes hand in hand. It does. So bottom line to everything, you just said, okay, I'm going to remind you remember after the Facebook live a. So we had an Tonio on the show at Hubin at the Super Bowl, and you had been very strong because you were you're pretty much done right, and he wanted his money and to my surprise if not shock, they went ahead that off season and they gave him his money or they give him for your sixty eight million. It's not huge money, but nineteen million bonus, which is nineteen million for him guarantee pretty good, good. So they they went ahead and invested long-term in an Tonio Brown into me. You know how I feel about diva wide receivers. They can be more trouble than they can be worth in Tokyo's case to me, he's gone over the edge into team threatening self promoter via social media because he is Mr. social media. I don't know if any. Bodies more active or more successful than he is this Eitel LeBron James, but he's not LeBron James and he doesn't play the sport LeBron plays or the position in that sport we're LeBron can control the whole game if he wants to correct. But in this case, he is dependent on getting the football thrown to him and it sounded like it got so bad. I'm just reading the reports of the game Sunday again, the Kansas City debacle at home, but they cut it to forty two thirty seven late in the game in on third down there. Third and gold been flips it to juju for a minus two yards. And he was upset. You could seem be upset with Antonio. I don't know what happened, but he didn't like what he did on the play. So Antonio wasn't happy on fourth down, then ran it in from three yards to make it forty two thirty seven. And as the team celebrated around Rothlisberger Antonio by himself, went alone back to the bench. We'll just part and parcel what's going on with this trouble football team and don't get me started on what happened was two weeks ago when it's felt like the whole. Team or at least half the team turned on on there. You go hold out superstar who just wants his money in everybody said, hell with your money. Right. Have you ever. I've never seen that before. Never, never and into a man. Everybody says you don't talk about the one thing. You don't talk about someone the money. Yeah, you stay out of that. So what did an Tonio d. last year in the Chicago game, he's probably frustrated with Ben over the protest is you. But remember he didn't get some balls thrown his direction. He took the whole Gatorade though. Baltimore game was audible. I was thinking it was the Chicago on the field become back the next week against Jacksonville. He gives nineteen target, but he has like nineteen targets. So there was a excellent insightful piece last week on the undefeated Bhai Jesse, Washington, and the headline was Antonio Brown is an Instagram all pro, but is that the full picture question Mark? Well, the p. said, no, it's not the full picture and then the sub headline. Was the best wide receiver in the NFL has a lot to say, but only on social media, meaning you can't interview him in open forms after the games because he won't even submit to that. He won't subject himself to open QNA sort of question. And in the piece rider says that he was threatened by Tony O'Brien, Brown vibe, social media by Drake message because he dared to try to interview some people close to Antonio about what's he really like. So it got kind of ugly at the end of the piece, but but I think there's a different Antonio because he's got one of the best miles in sports, not the best mile, but I think there's something underneath there. That's not all that pretty. And it's just another indication of how to your point fractured or troubled is football team is which is why I'm still picking Cincinnati to win this division. The thing is that you always have to be careful of is that reward negative behavior. If a child goes to the store and they fall in the four, and they start yelling and screaming, if you give them. From you, give them handy. What happens every time they go to the store and you don't give them that. So Antonio was lashing out. He was doing things and they rewarded him. They did at first, you know, he was like threaten to do this and he was booking. They gave him an extra two or three million dollars in his contract. Last year. He did what he did and they rewarded him. So the thing is you have to be careful. Coach Tomlin should fit parameters. Now I'm not telling you don't have, like I said, in New England, they have some Mr. craft coach Belichick, Tom Brady, but from a locker room perspective, you don't see this. Yeah. And and in Pittsburgh you're seeing this, they're too talented to be in the situation that they're in right now. But when you have a lot of bickering and it seems to be a lot of people are jealous or as we no way. No, we is distillers is the Steelers, and then it's the players. And as soon as you understand that in this, why, and I talked to someone in that Steelers locker room player as this is why you're. You never gonna have guaranteed contracts because you can't even get along with somebody in your locker room. You give less deal about somebody in somebody else's locker room and the owners know that they pit you against each other. You fall for and they sit back. We got him. Again. I don't get it. Dude had seventeen targets. How many balls? Antonio Brown expect Steelers, throw it hit, but think about this gift and Tony over the last three to four years has way more targets than anybody else he does. He should never complain if you that many balls Gipp. Yeah, I could go a game without catching the past because I know the next game you're gonna make up about throwing me twenty one targets. Yup. So I always say that beyond baseball hockey, basketball football is the one team or one team sport based so much on unity to have a unified luck room to win a champion. Yes, you know that far to two of them in this case. I look at the Steelers as fractured and I look at last year's eagles. They United around that underdog motif that was their driving for that was their theme of the year. Nobody respects us they pulled together and that was a together football team without a real, their quarterback even lower. Yeah, so so the backup quarterback wins the championship, and it was kind of a starless championship like they got a lot of really good players on defense, but is there a superstar breakout magazine cover? They don't have a bomb Miller. They don't have. I mean, plus a cocker the closest thing. But when we talk about we go into a lot of defensive player before we get deployed grand grandma's. Yeah, everybody tells me is that brain grams even better than Fletcher caught will. Most people don't even know is pick him out of a line on offense. Did they have a superstar as Al Shana superstar? He's really good, but he's not a superstar, right? No, their offense of line collectively, you could say a superstar unit, but they don't have. We don't. You know about it really is laying job because he does that, but we didn't know about until he started talking really after the Joe, you knew about Kelsey after the Super Bowl when he got up and gave his k. his speech unity and Antonio to me is becoming more and more of solo act where it's him in the team over here and whatever the team's doing. Irrelevant to his solo act because he is becoming a superstar on social. He's already superstar and social media, and I don't know if the twain shall meet. I don't know if you can win a championship with that kind of guy playing that way. At that position, you can't win a championship with that kind of locker room. That's what you can't. No, I agree. Someone's going to be the one to make those rules and call them dump. A coach Tomlin someone's job and the Steelers on the road guys against the bucks. They surprising to this day night easier. We have another team that needs a win, the Seahawks gone from contenders to one of the worst in the NFL hope. So you hope so. To see are now Owen to after losing on the road to the bears Russell. Wilson was six times after also getting sacked six times week one Wilson also through a pick six in the fourth quarter to seal the win for the bears and next up for Seattle. Well, skips Cowboys Sunday on fucks Shannon, how much trouble Seattle in. Told trouble. I don't know Vegas at eight games. There's no way they're winning games. Zero change. They win eight games their offense. Reliant is terrible. There's no way Russia can make it through the season at this place. Skip twelve sex already. He's been sacked the most. He's been in the league. Two hundred sixty sack sixty. No Doug ball with no running game. The defense stays on the field of awful. Lot skip. Can you? Can you believe this only three players from the starting that started against the patriots are still on the team? Yeah. Bobby Wagner k. j. right, Earl, Thomas, everyone else has gone by the Weigman caging right? A hurt. So only Earl, Thomas right now available to play quarterback. Still there. About the only thing. I don't know how much long he's going to be a one piece. This is what I said. What I said at the game, say, never be the same and skip. If they're going through this right now, you could always look back and say, you know what? They did get to Super Bowls. So they have something really nice that that was a great little run. They had for a four year stretch to get to Super Bowl out of it. What they did to your Broncos. And and had an opportunity to follow that back up. They do this. It's over this team is in rebuil- mold this, is it the terrible skip? There's no way around it. You looking at them last night. I'm like. I'm surprised they scored seventeen because for the first half, I'm like, I don't believe they don't get. I don't believe they don't get the ball in the end zone skip. I don't know. But it wasn't until the more watch Mitchell Trubisky list. I like him skill. I mean, you never liked it, but ever like I'm starting to I land. Okay. He might be. What about you think Khalil could help the raiders above Al? We talk about Khalil back the real reason that's just piling on. C, boy, you'll guy in trouble. You got six times about Chicago, six times about a Bronco and the Cowboys come to town as just jumping ally here all night loan Cowboys. Second, the NFL and sack so far with nine. Oh, you probably you like say, well, you're saying that they can rush the passer. That's one thing we can do. Randy. Gregory was in concussion protocol against e. or ally might be in concussion protocol right now. He's still by being my, we don't know about it. They're not a good football team. They're completely rebuild mo- they don't have weapons around Russell to help him make lays the offense of line is in shambles. The defense is not the same. The legion of boom is gone. Richard Sherman got released cliff, April and Kam chancellor ahead to retire camp. Michael Bennett, Michael, they traded Michael Bennett. This is not the same team. So the days of the Seattle, oh, the twelfth, man, and out of those that's over and it's not coming back and they squandered that opportunity had. So I see what you're trying to do to me. I know exactly. It was painfully transparent onto do. It's amusing Lee transparent. You're trying to rile up the Seahawks to pull off the upset of my Cowboys. Although it really wouldn't be an upset because it sounds like the spreads going to be Seattle minus three. So they're gonna get three for home field. So I think Vegas looks at it as kind of a toss up. Yes, it is not. Yeah, skip. You use the path to week you've seen the Seahawks play. I have, but what does disturb me is that both Bobby Wagner in k. j. right could be back Sunday. I know it's a short week for them. They're gonna have to travel after Chicago, so that's vantage Dallas. But if those two guys come back, they're actually last night they play Dallas, no in Seattle. Oh, yeah. Okay. So the point is that with those two guys back, I thought they were decent on defense last night again, albeit against Mitchell Trubisky, which one go play tackle, which would go play guard, which one gonna block. For us. That's a very good question. Which is back to Russel Wilson. And to me last night he was playing out of character because it's him or yes, and he doesn't have Doug Baldwin, and I'm not sure he's if for Sunday, but that's that's really about all these target rise right guy. It'd be pretty good, not bad. Okay. But the point is Russell Wilson feels like he has to win the game pretty much all by himself in. So he holds on the ball too long. He does things that are out of character in the pick six. He threw just was shocking to me because it's so out of character for him and I don't know what they are doing. They line up the rookie running back Rashad penny at at wideout he's stands right up and tries to hit him quick in the flat with it. Any throws it right to move Amara. What? What? What? What are you doing? I've never seen a Mook Amar. Make one play played for seven years. I can't remember making a single ply, whether the Jacksonville play five years giant. One in Jacksonville, and he's been there for a year, but this KOMO first of all, who's gonna run to running back on a go route corners. Corner goes way. What's going to happen to what they're doing, but skip is always been more off-script improvisation than anything, and that's what he's had to do. But now he doesn't have blocking in the thing. What people don't understand the more mobile, the quarterback, the more likely to get sack because Russ ran himself into some sat and he did because he's field. I'm getting away from it on this side and he runs himself into on the backside. Okay. But when you're up against Colella one side and keen Hicks and others coming from everywhere, yes, it's hard man. It was hard for Aaron Rodgers. It was hard for John Kaiser. Now you leave Denver where they get your fix time. You go to Chicago where they get your six time. Now you get Atlanta. Now you get the Cowboys coming into your building who will block, DeMarcus, Lawrence. I hope nobody. Nobody. I don't know. They might get inspired by you ripping up, then you're trying to give them a pep talk. I know what you're doing. I'm sorry, this eighty hockey team. This is not in the miracle is there will be no miracle in Seattle. Well, my team might need a little bit of America to get out alive, but we'll see. So I got one thing going for me when I got revenge because remember what happened on December twenty four th at Gerry world last year. My teen could have won ten games last year at ten and six would have a long shot shot at the playoff after losing Zeke for six and Sean Lee for six Thais, mid for four, they they could have been right. But here because of that quarterback was the same quarterback. They, you said, gets an f. for season. Guess what happened? What goes to Jerry world? And they pull it out twenty one to twelve and it was the ultimate Dez Bryant night. I'm sorry, but I just have to make the point. This is when it hit bottom. I remember what happened early in that game. He it's Dez with the pass over on the left side if we'd see that play and I don't know what he's doing. He just just hold on. Hold on up up. He didn't hold on just hit a just bumble the guy made a great plain. Did he makes this brunch legion a boob match? Well, okay. And then we got a real shot in the third quarter and it looks like we about to drive here. And here we go over the middle up up. What's does do. Jada, but you know what I noticed that he didn't show that overthrow the Zeke that we're for pick six. I notice he didn't show that. You know, I think that was in desert. Thank you was I was looking for Dan, did you see this? What are they doing? You wanna talk about not on the same page, not on the same wave link. It's just horrendous. This is when I just sat back and said, just get it over with just just put me out of my misery. I don't wanna see him anymore. They've doesn't normally run rough, like not like that. So all you do what we call the short crow, you go five. You gotta talk. I don't know where you are. No, just go sit up right in that thought he was he'd sat down, but what about that overthrow did pick sick? So who fought with it? Hey, what about first and goal at the three and you wind up with a thirty one yard, thirty, four yard field goal and Dan Bailey missed it. You remember that? Okay, I don't want to talk about the to talk about. I don't want him. It was one of those things where he's trying to get it to. Lord of the dance all the league. No, he was trying to hit dead. K. believe in the end. Obviously there's no more Dez Bryant, but it's a collection number three. So with those collection of number three receivers, including, I hope Brice Butler. I don't know if you'll be ready to go by then guys, we're about by fourteen fourteen. I'm not gonna get doing the reverse bet like reports. About fourteen. Why would I do that? You're saying that Seattle's a bunch of bomb need fourteen okay. Well I'm not going to do that because it be stew a stew on my wall. I think it's going to be a battle. You got dead bresca. He got Russell Wilson. No deck makes magic that predator rose. He isn't there. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that I wouldn't even I would eat a lot. Hey, hastens won a Super Bowl and played in to play great in another way. He did late rate. He just got Brady in the other one, though. Pino old Radi hundred zero yards in the fourth Caroline because I don't know why Pete Carroll Darrow bell. You know what I still I'm still upset like Richard Sherman, Richard Sherman property Darrow bubble p Kelly, mice. Both of. Well, that team got split round that quarterback, right. Okay. I'm not gonna give you any points. I'm not. I just wanna w you want be able to eat at your restaurant and this is going to be survival Motors, Bailey you, you watch them the last two we I have. So it's the Bobby Wagner and k j right? Run out there on the field. In the twelfth man goes berserk, go beserk behooves block it for Russ Walter Jones, coming back fate. Hundred asks who's blocking for Dak. That might be a better question. You gotta tie million. Million mar really Martin? Yeah, there used to be first of all of them the last time they got to say this. I did this that Comiskey last night. Who Seattle? Yeah, I can't remember. Did they sing up on? Nobody knows clip able no Bennett. What's his name from Penn State? I can't think of his name. He's pretty good. They got one. Yeah, Clark? Yeah. He was leased creating some havoc last night. I'm not. You should be ashamed of yourself chains parent up, tempt to inspire the Seahawks and get to give you points. I don't do rob Parker bets. You know Seattle one point favorites point on point yesterday it was three. So now after people saw them last night, it goes. Give me a level. I'm not gonna give you enough. Then I mean zero poor skin testing. You've been to Dallas even because I, I wish I might on my squad. Somebody I know. Okay. We have some breaking news this morning. I'll figure this out later a boycott at the pro football fame, we'll discuss. We have some breaking news this morning. Our rob Parker reported that some members of the pro football hall of fame have threatened to boycott next year ceremonies unless they are given an annual salary health insurance and a share of league revenue. Our own Eric Dickerson has led the charge a group of hall of famers, including guys like Dion Sanders, Jerry Rice. Jim Brown wrote a letter to Roger Goodell the players association and the hall of fame, saying, quote, until our demands are met, the hall of famers will not attend the annual induction ceremony in canton. Now, rob Parker is with us rob great stuff. Thank you good morning. And if you want to check it out the shuttle league dot com. Also we'd the entire letter there on the website. Okay. And we are going to get your opinion on it, but I do want to start with Shannon because he's a hall of Famer. Obviously, you are the hall a hall of Famer, but not not on this list. So what is. Support them skill. It's sad that it's come to this. They shouldn't have to have have to be fighting for this. This should have been something that was negotiated a long, long time ago. If you play, I believe I'm a firm believer if you are vested player. If you play the vista number of you, which is three years NFL you should receive lifetime health benefits that should have been the goal. She ate it. I hate that the hall of famers are having to be placed in the situation to fight for everybody I know is just a hall of Famer. Then they're talking about, and I know people don't say, what about the guys that are not a hall of famers would you gotta start with somewhere and the only the only asset, the only thing that the hall of famers have is their presence when you when you turn on? Yes, an induction, but you look up on the stage and you see all those go, Jackie usually all the hall of famers. So if you see a whole bunch of empty chairs, that's really probably the only thing that's going to get the hall of fame and the NFL detention skip. Look for me. I I've done. Okay. With my money. I'm not let me let me take that back. I'm like, I've done well. I've done better than, okay, okay. I got when my attorney Marvin in nineteen ninety six. And the very first thing he said he told me skipping since I'm always tell you what you need to know, not what you wanna hear. He's what do you want? I says this, I want this lifestyle. I have this many kids how to do it. He says, do this, this, this, this I did everything. He said, we'll off. Take care of my kids, put them through college. I'm good, but everybody is not like Shannon. A lot of guys didn't make the money and I made okay money. Not like these guys make him, but I'm good. But the guy that came before Shannon and the guy that came before them didn't make that money and they're hurt. I mean, I see some of the guys walking around skipping sad. It breaks my heart and I'm thinking to myself. Damn, is that going to be me another five year? If that will be me and ten years important of the not able to have healthcare that can provide. Healthcare for me and take my slipped in. And by the way, I don't believe that's going to be you and five, you go ahead and I'm like. This is so sad that the hall of famers had to be put in a situation like this and people ask me all the time. What do you get go into the hall of fame? I say they don't send out checks, so you got a very nice ring and you gotta bust Sipa. I mean, the fact that you one of the pantheon breaks that played your particular sport, but I commend Indy air Dixon who's the chairman of this and all the great name that you see skip his so many more. I think there's one hundred eighty hundred eighty minute members. And for the most part, all of them are not like Shanna. Some are better. Some of the Elway Marino's in Troy Aikman's did very very well. They're not on this on this living, but Jim Brown, you got some Jay z on you got some big ones on, yes, Derrick Brooks, yeah. Have nothing but respect for Derek. Absolutely. So how do you feel about the demand for an annual salary for hall of famers for me, I don't. I don't want anything. So if if I whatever salary, they give me to take that up. If it's my, keep it in, give it give it give it to the other place. I'm good now what I like to help benefit show, but if I don't give it to the guys that need an I understand what Eric. Dickerson these guys are trying to do, but Shannon's. Okay. In what I signed things when I do things for the hall of fame skip, I don't take money. I give it to the guy that that are not in good good shape and Shannon, Sean, I'm good, but I understand what they're trying to do, and I commend them and I hate to be placed in this situation, but the say, we want this or we not going, I hate it because my bag, the friend, Tony Gonzales is going into the hall of fame. You'll be a hall of Famer, but they say we're not going shopping. We'll be right here nilly really well, and that's the only way it is strong, but that's the only way you get things moved. That's why I I understand why some other players will push back and say, well, what about us? And then I get all that. But how do you get the league's attention to move and do something you have to have the biggest and brightest stand up and be willing to sacrifice and willing to say, we're not going to go to Ken. You see the Commissioner makes a lot of money already plus million jet and lifetime medical. He has lifetime healthcare, and then you also have it said that again, forty million or two million a year. Go ahead and use of a private jet and lifetime metal, and then you gotta look at the building to break ground on a billion dollar structure in canton for the hall of fame. So they see this money they see and they, we'd everyday to league bakes generates fourteen billion dollars, and there are, as you talked about hall of fame, that's why I admire Eric Dickerson take this on galvanize rally. The troops to say, if we don't stand up and ask and demand, what we're looking for. It'll never happen and never gonna come because they haven't done it to this point. They're not gonna not. Gonna just come. Go away two minute. What do we do? We take care of you guys, so you have to force the issue and the only way I agree if you turn on and here's one thing, they broadcast the whole hall of fame thing. What about the broadcast money or rights or advertise on that? They could use that money and say, we're going to give this to the hall of fame by the way. It's one of my favorite shows of the UK, and so there's one that they can make money off of thinking, do a lot of other things licensing. I don't, you know, come up with ways to generate money to make sure these guys maybe not Shannon Shaw who's okay, but other people who really need it. And that was the thing I got from the letter. And then the comparisons to like major league baseball will you only have to have a copy a Cup of coffee, and as we roll. And you get invention one day major league base- one day you get health insurance life. So you have to make a roster you one day. You mean to tell me a player that plays in the NFL for three years. Can't get that same deal benefits for life at the play and three years of the most brutal organized sport that you can play come on, they they gotta check the, let's say, for the sake of for teen just say, you know what? We're gonna put two million dollars a year aside, so we can play to have these players. Are players have lifetime medical benefits for the relatively live could do it in no problem. Okay. So just to frame the power behind this movement, starting with Eric Dickerson, who's the head of it? Just going to name the power names here. Marcus Allen, Derrick Brooks, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell Ronnie Lott. Joe name, Jerry Rice Dion Sanders. Lawrence Taylor. Those are heavyweights heavy. It's just not like five guys trying to zoo. No, the only two quarterbacks are Joe Nemeth and Kurt Warner. So you got a whole bevy of superstar quarterbacks who have not come over yet, but I assume, will they? They might. We got the Elway's and the Montana's in the Marino date movements. Okay. So I can tell you first of all, what most fans, I think I would speak for the average fan in the street. They're not gonna love the demand for an annual salary. They'd say, wait a second year, a hall of Famer and that you can cash in on your fame that you can speak. You can appear. You can do card shows. Right? I'm pretty sure that's going to be the first reaction you're going to hear, but as you get further and further away, remove skip, you get less and less visible so is not as easy for them to appear and do promotional things and do speak engagements say like someone like myself, that's on television. Most of them were like Ajay. Right, rush, right. We're going to get it. You know, card shows, I don't. I don't really do them had. Opportunities, but I don't. I don't really like to travel. I don't really sound black. I don't need the money. I mean, who needs less money, but I'm let's get I get it. But CDC guideline looking man. I'm like. I look at Earl Campbell. I look at some of the guys with a cane and I look at some of them and I'm like. But don't you think fans have just the the impression is that, oh, you play in the NFL. You rich, you got money. You know what I mean? Like that's really, we're looking generate money for the rest of your life, but the thing is into put a pension scale. Thank about this. Okay. The NFL has rule. Once you retired, you get health insurance pay for five years. Yeah. Well, the average guys leaving the NFL twenty five. So he gets health insurance of twenty five to thirty and you can't draw your picture until sixty two or you take things too. I got it. So now I'm just going to speak personally because I love Eric, and I love a lot of guys on this list, but I'm reading the letter and I'm sure most of it came from Eric and his business partner eight pinned it together. So there's one phrase that NFL hall of famers are often exploited as unpaid ambassadors of the sport that hit me just as a longtime crazy NFL fan, little wrong. It rubbed me the wrong way because embassador of the sport. You wanna be, you love your game. You're you're in the greatest hall of fame of all the hall of fame you're on the greatest team ever. Maybe I'm this is propaganda from the NFL, but to me, I don't know if you're exploited as unpaid ambassadors. This is what I want to ask you are, is it free to go to the hall of fame? Do people have to buy tickets, pay money. If it's free as a hall of fame, I wouldn't expect anything, but if you charge everybody and making revenue Otago into the hall of fame, they like to visit it and I, it is probably the most visited of the whole of this. Do you know what I'm saying? So you gotta pay money, they're they're making money. They're about to break ground on a billion dollar structures. Okay, I got that in the end. Is it not a privilege and the ultimate honor to be in that place? But I'm Reid with them help the medical. All right. So you want to be added to the list? I'm on the live. They already know west. Okay. I want them. Okay. All right. Well, it sounds like. Everybody's going to walk. Walking out an ex hope. Hopefully we'll have some kind of a look. Okay, guys. It's what we can do because I really want to be there for Tony, Tony, the very good friend of mine and I know skipped. He comes out here and we joke a lot, but we'll. And I would out and hopefully the legal take this seriously and they will meet the best of the best. Same. We're not coming. All right, Robin, good sack. You'll be back with us later. And really, this is just a reporter for this story, scoop park, we'll Josh Gordon, make a big impact with the patriots. We'll discuss that with the Angela home. Thus Gordon is now a patriot Gordon's to mulch seven seasons with Cleveland are over after the patriots straight at a fifth round pick to get. He led the league and receiving yards back in two thousand thirteen, but after multiple suspensions for violating the league's substance abuse policy, he's only played in eleven games since then the Angela hall is back joining us today and yesterday on yesterday's show, you mentioned that you would not give up a draft pick to go get Gordon. So are you surprised that New England made this move surprised? I'm a little surprised because New England is probably the the most successful organization when it comes to being ROY from top to bottom, they seem to always have a plan. They seem to execute that plan and everyone seems to always be on the same page. But I think you saw last week in kind of the handing over of the mantle to to Jacksonville that, hey, man, we feel like we can win a lot more. Games? Well, I'm more championships and in order to do that, they need a guy like Josh Gordon and so that they want to take the risk. I think it is though because I don't know if you can trust Josh, Kenny, help you. Absolutely. We all say day is no doubt about it. He is a great football player when he's playing, but I don't know of Josh can get stuff together to actually help his team out. But if you're Josh, if your friends of his, if your New England is no better place, then New England for him because we've done it the right way for so long. We have guys in that locker room that if he's not gonna listen to anybody, you kinda gotta listen to Tom Brady if you're not gonna listen to anybody. Well, when it comes to like a huge accent who's always joking around having fun with you Bill Belichick is the total opposite Ed tola. He's the guy who demands respect from everybody. He demands you to get in line or you'll be gone or you'll be gone. And so yes as a risk. But you know, I just think they feel like teams are going to start doing what Jacksonville did taking Rockaway, making everyone else beat them. And if you had a guy like this, his going to be hard to do that. Exactly. But this is the risk that only the patriots could take because they have the type of locker room and they have the type of drug Scher that can handle Josh Gordon in code. Bella check doesn't have a problem. Oh, this is not working by we. He doesn't care how much money he's paid you. He doesn't care where he drafted you at if you're not paying out for the patriots. If you're not doing what coach Bela check deem this, what I think this guy should do this, what I think he can do. You don't do that. You up out of there. Skip Bayless look this. What I know haven't played in fourteen years and I don't know how you feel about this d hall. I like in more times than not players will under structure. I don't know the structure of Cleveland, but I do know the stroke of New England. This is the way you're doing. You come in there. As a matter of fact, you don't check your ego at the door. You leave it at home. So when you drive with you start on your way to New England to go to work, you have no ego, you are faceless your nameless, your New England, Patriots. Forget the name this, what Josh Gordon has to do. He has to. He has a blank slate now what he had going on in Cleveland. Doing this, they brought we to clean. Don't come here with that bullishness the questionnaire skip, Josh Gordon does really well when he's playing football. Unfortunately, football is not a year round thing. They don't play football every every Sunday year round. What happens when he doesn't have the New England structure of the locker room of practice of meetings or being on a plane travelling to improve the games? What happens then give? I don't look just because I don't trust him. Tell people all the time just because I don't trust somebody that doesn't mean that you shouldn't maybe should be leery or I could pretty good Georgia character. But what he did in Cleveland maybe comes in and he'd be a model citizen in New England. I wouldn't be willing to run the risk, but I understand why New England you watch those receivers. Okay. Fortunately. So what did I tell both of you yesterday? I'm speaking with my heart, not my head. 'cause all your points are head points in. They're all well-taken. I don't disagree with one word either of you just spoke. But I said yesterday if I'm Jerry Jones, I risk of fifth round, pick high risk high reward to see if I could make something out of Josh Gordon for a football team that doesn't have a number one or a number two receiver. We've got a collection of threes at best, and maybe this could be your next Dez Bryant. And then what happened. I have to open up my computer in the middle of after noon and see that flashing breaking news headline and my heart. My heart falls in my stomach because it just makes me sick at my stomach. The plunger Jerry Jones sat on his laurels again, is hall of fame laws. He's all fame now. He doesn't need to do anything else, and I keep waiting for him to send one little message or one big message choose locker room. I'm all in for twenty. Eighteen we're close, so I'm gonna go get you Sammy Watkins. Nope, I came in second for Sammy Watkins. I'm gonna go get Earl Thomas. No, I offered it to, but then they jerk the rug out from under me and said, no, we wanna one, so I'm all out on that deal. Am I going to go get Josh Gordon for a five? No, I'm going to let Bill Belichick taken for five, and I agree with all your points. Obviously the structures in place where Josh has a long shot shot at making it in this league. That's where you'll make it with Tom Brady because he can't be on this ova. Okay. So I was close to the Randy moss situation when he was in Oakland. Again, this is back in two thousand six and he was just a disaster. He quit on them. It looked like he had quit on football. It looked like he's bodied given out. He was turning thirty years of age, and I thought he was flat out done. Maybe heart done with pro football. And what happened the next year? He winds up for nothing for a song. He goes to bell check and Brady, and the next thing I know records are falling like crazy, and he goes from catching. Touchdowns the year before to an NFL record twenty three touchdowns now is Josh Gordon Randy moss on the football field? No, because he can't run like that ran could run four. He's just fly high football IQ. Great, not good hands. Great hands. Josh has very good hands and he's more he's more you covered him more power Bill six, three to twenty five dollars. Turney hands like that to catch a football, but. Okay. Wrong. That's a bad. I hope. Woma around what he's doing. But I did like what rob Inc vich sit on w. a former patriot leader, these legal, and I'll just paraphrase quotes. But he said that he questions Josh's love for the game. If you get suspended that many times. Well, I question his love for himself and he's talked about that. I don't love myself enough, and when I love myself, I just give up and go over the edge into really bad. And that's the thing because people look, maybe he's graduated. But in the beginning it was it was marijuana. It we the people that we not addictive, what you tell me what you can't sit down for sixty million dollars. And I say, whatever it is is a dicta- simple in that you if you can't stop regardless of the ramifications, that's an addiction and we'd led to this and then it legend that that, yeah, that's how bad that got in. I told you he wound up is only like a year and a half. Go live with Johnny Manziel right here in West Hollywood. There was some stuff going down in that apartment. That's not a pretty sight. So the point is I hope he saved himself. I told you, I've gotten no him a little bit. I like him. He's deep, I root form because he's got hall of fame ability. I mean, hall of and I don't throw that phrase out loosely. Has he lived up to approved it and concluded? He didn't even like what he did. Saturday said he let his teammates down. He goes to some promotional endorsements. Shoot in allegedly pulled his hamstring. I don't know. I mean, that's a bad sign. All these bad signs, his whole histories, a bad sign about the. I mean, they believed in and everybody believes like you said, the the hall yesterday, everybody believes that I can be the guy that change it, what he's going to be different under my watch. But at some point in time, Joshua just has to come to the conclusion. This is on me, I've gotten all the help. They can give me at some point in time and you can't put yourself skip. If you, if you and alcohol, you can ever never go. You can. Can't go in a bar. You can't put yourself in harm's way, Josh. If you have these issues, the friends that you hang around, the put you in the situation. You gotta let them go. You have to know who you are, what you are in a boy that at all? Yeah, we're about see what he's made up and I'm gonna guess he's, I'm going to bet he's made at the right stuff. I hope I think he's going to be the next Randy moss for the guys is if anybody, if anybody can change it's, this is the New England way what this is the missing piece to this puzzle. Because if if he gets Eshelman back and Josh is what I think he could be or Jalen Ramsey mo- oh, you will be able to have you have your hands full. Mouth. That's a heavyweight. That'd be a good. Good man. That'd be a good with. We might have to go on the road. They blame the championship Jacksonville, New England, Josh Gordon, Jalen Ramsey I'll send. I'm thinking, maybe it's in Foxborough. Now. Jacksonville, we beat your head. Right. Do you think it's all Jackson is Jacksonville's world New England's just live. I won't say that I'm not saying is Jacksonville's world, but I think I think everyone starting to see now that New England can be, this is the formula to beat them. You know, I mean, when you're at the top and someone beats, you. You know your their bones in Liz. Like those. But here again, we don't know if that's gonna happen every every game, but. That wasn't even there to the point. They can beat you not playing their best. You have to play year bath. Here bathroom damn near your business, especially. 'cause you really completely get him, you're not worried about the deepen you compete against Tom Brady. 'cause eagle issue. Sunday when they had to Detroit to face their former decoding. Go, hey. Be really good or really ugly, it could be bad. Okay. Well, then the NFL get the clay Matthews call, right? So wrong. The NFL said, the roughing, the passer call against clay Matthews late in the fourth quarter. Sunday was the correct call a league source reiterated yesterday that the quote technique of grabbing the passer from behind the leg or legs and scooping and polling in an upward motion is a foul. The NFL senior VP of officiating said. He will remind clubs that the penalty has been on the books for spore several years and is not considered part of this season's point of emphasis related to defensive players landing on the quarterback, which once again by Dangelo haw. All right. You buying that explanation. Thank you. You make anything you can interpret it any way you want to. And that's the problem with the NFL in general, when you make the rules and you're the appealing body that I have to go appeal to end of the day likely say they're going to, we're going to turn it in and they're gonna find a way to justify and I'm going to be wrong. I'm going to be wrong, is know about it. I'm going to be wrong, and I don't think it was a rough in the past. I've seen guys get get roughed before and it is an actual scoop. It is eight picking that guy up. It is throwing all your body weight on that guy. I didn't see at all we clay and that was, that's what's so frustrating. As some point you have to let the guys play football. I mean, we did sign up to play football. You have to let them play football and. Not becoming football anymore, turning into something else, a hodgepodge of seven, seven mixed with a little ultimate flag where you got showed a pass on. You can hit a little bit closer to the sideline, but this isn't football at this point, man, you gotta let these guys play football. So would you convince the hall of Famer sitting across from me, I can't convince him because he's office guy somehow find a way to say no. What what does this game revolve around the world. Exactly this out. Check this out. Would there ever be Tom Brady if Drew Bledsoe dig it hurt? No, no, probably not. So though I feel bad about a quarterback getting hurt is part of playing football. I get it if he gets hurt. Let's see how good your scout department was. Let's see how good your front office was and getting innovating by that. I understand that I understand Tom Brady, I understand they do. They do, but without Tom getting hurt, it was no Jimmy g. it was the Matt castle. You know these guys who got a chance to play because Tom, you know, suffered an injury. You never wanna see a guy get hurt, but it's part of football. It is. And so I don't think that play put Kurt, endanger of getting hurt is other plays where you see these guys actually launching throwing throwing their whole body weight into a guy. Yes, he has a potential to get hurt. Let's let's try to keep them out of that situation. But man, they took the game from clay and it's hard as a player when you're playing knows eleven guys in another jersey within when you feel like you have to fight against referees as well. That's tough man. That's tough on anybody, so you convince, oh. Back off. I wish I could tell you something to make you guys feel better, but I can't because I understand. I understand what the NFL is. Do the NFL won't scoring and they won't Tom Brady erotic all going. They want spinning and spinning and they won't all their guys on the field. And so they changed the rules change the rules to accommodate Tom Brady because they don't want you to hit him in the they changed the rule to. So they don't want you break an air Raj of collarbone. They broke, they broke. I was going to say, you know what's going end up happening. Green Bay's gonna miss the playoffs by one game, and it's going to be because of that one play right there that you hear picks it off the game's overwrite all they Lambeau. Now I promise you, it's gonna come down to that one game because it always does. And so now we're now we're talking about how they took the -bility of this team to make a playoff run. And that's the tough part is when you take when you take somebody's ability to win a game or lose a game, and would you rather have what you have rather have have Aaron Rodgers their the entire season and then missed the playoff by one game or Aaron Rodgers doubt for the rest of the obviously I want him to be upright hit still the hit. He still would have gotten hit whether it's a flag or not play. They don't want that anymore, but guys still doing it. So they. Taking it away. Now I get why you spend so much time in spin class because you trying to learn to speak for the NFL all establishment. So this is so wrong on so many levels and I don't. I think you see it, but you just don't want those little did not scoop him at all there? No being there was no burping farthing bourbon. Did he pick him up? Did he throw him down? Did he body slammed. You know what? It was actually a simple textbook arm tackle. That's all it was. He was there on time. He was not late. It was not a lady at there's obviously no helmet, there's no hand to the head. There's nothing going on there. He just wraps him around the waist and takes him gently down by by most sack standards. Gentle take down. There's no body weight involved here at all show. There's no body on top of Kirk cousins, and Kirk cousins said after the game, it was actually the quote him a generous call. It was very, yeah. I used to despise what I can call called the continuation place where the ball would be gone. The passers watching the ball, hang in the air to see if it's complete and all sudden they would allow three hundred pounders just to finish their rush and come blowing on top of full body weight on the ground slamming your collarbone against the turf nets, just wrong. And that's not what happened here. It was a gentle little take down and it was on time. He got there just as the ball was leaving the hand. It's another wild, Kirk cousins, interception ins. The last. The home was at the crooks. This is not about whether the flag or not is the fact that it was Kirk cousins, and then you wanna play, but he did what he always does. But what happened to Tom Brady when he got hit in Jacksonville, what did that was a that to me was two things can be got way because they missed it because they miss in God. Kway doesn't mean that Klay dinkum unify all it could be the other way around just because they called a clay clay as a as a referee pass. It doesn't make it true yet is true. Does. The hall. You know how this goes. They hit a lot of quarterbacks with Indios and it wasn't until Brady guy hitting his me that they changed. It wasn't until Aaron Rodgers went down last year with Aaron Barr, put his weight on it and broke collarbone. Thomas Davis did the same thing that Tony Romo skimp on thanksgiving, but he bounced on him. You can't bounce on him. He bounced right on his collarbone. Jordan hits re broke that collarbone in Philadelphia. He just came full weight down on Romo after the balls gone, it's just like it's an incredibly cheap play because you're white bigger than he is and you got him over on the out of the pocket. You just crashed down on his call. What do you think's going to stay you paying you? Got him. I mean, we hit you. Okay. You're in the red zone where they can't hit. Okay. Now you're making our case. No, no, no. I'm just saying the rules. This is what they said. We're not. They like the thing was about body hurt to quarterback. So what do you have to say to Mike Pereira in England? They both said that this was not a rough in the past and they're to respect former rough, had a referee that I respect very well. Does guy saying they work here? They were absolutely. Absolutely wrong. I think you got unconvinced your position. Oh, you try to hit my gig. Take it away to get your, take it away. Just wants you to admit your heart scoop. Groping. And pick him up the ground. You know, going away you being like you Olympics world cook, came back. Your husband hadn't seen you to why you saw you came. Did you hug. Ginny saw. She went running. It's a great example really, really look at Kirk. He's he. He the one leg. Well, no one, they throw it because you know, Klay coming and then clay's ever full slightly did have foot leap the ground. Non lead the ground. No, no, no, no, no. You don't have to leave the ground with Carlos feed scope. You. We need a demo, like the thing. No, no, no. I just Ren you then, what does he leave? Because hurt with up in the air, which put him at show the pan lemon with no feet are off the ground. Yeah, a little bit into a lot more than eight. That's what you thought he gave a little flag. He had two hundred. That's my problem is way up there. He's just dealing. My problem is wrestling that they thought the flag immediate, his eyes on looking at the whole time. He he weighs any weights. 'cause I for a second. I didn't think he'd do the flame. The flag the flag because I need to keep going wild and took a wise. All right. Now, if the pass rusher touches the quarterback, it's it's a foul if you fall in my right. You've got a sling down basically got flinging down. You gotta laying down on. Just throwing you can't do you gotta pull up like it's a punt known them, like it's the punch. You didn't block how many rough you gotta go off the side. Beamer guy. Just got to lay out just run through him and don't let your. What just run through. Now, you can't tell you just don't land on land on land on can't. What about like a little arm tackle and like gently lay him on the turf skate point that it's harder to play rules are making it. Quarterback throwing for four hundred and six touchdown. We land for. There you go by air by the time, they don't think about it. I never heard of quarterback until like the last four or five years talking about playing until they're forty. Five. John never talk about playing forty, five, none of these guys, but now because they're protected, they wanna play fitness because they discover pliability discover them to discover that the NFL with protect. This call because of time. But Tom didn't get a call golden boy. If you don't get any more call, took room, he don't need more calls recipes life. He got the party started. Dangelo thank you for being here and speaking of the patriots. Are they actually little vulnerable after that loss in Jacksonville will discuss that with rob Parker? What is he going to say? The patriots dropped to one and one after losing convincingly to the Jaguars thirty one twenty Sunday, Tom Brady, and the offense struggled scoring. Only three points in the first half. The defense wasn't much better giving up four touchdown passes to Blake Bortles and nearly five hundred total yards. Yesterday, Bill Belichick said, quote, we're better than what we showed rob Parker is back with us and rob if I had this right, you did have the Jags to win. So I was rush EDA's you gotta give me credit. I gave skip thirteen points. Thirteen of doing you got Brady again. What I was right Jacksonville was going to lose Gore's I said, who won the dinner off the game? Okay. You did, but I would win. The game was a fourteen point game almost entire wet. You've gotta give me Brady late touchdown, pass. It always have to take costly as. L. I just wanna come to this dinner wherever you make a plan. Owed me, twelve. We got here. ESPN and he I let him pay me off in one big expensive night. Okay. So now we start the clock ticking. Again, you're down one by the end of the season. I want to do this one. Let's go to miss the season, get it DOE. That's yes, we'll see, hopefully. Okay. How much trouble though are the patriots and sound the alarm? I've been telling you all cities sound the alarm because if you know this, the Jacksonville Jaguars I know it on the kryptonite, but a patriot law, Shannon, you sort of AFC championship game. They should. They will twenty two ten four quarter in Foxborough. Bortles who wait yesterday, but I mean Sunday but he couldn't. He couldn't get that big first down. They needed to keep moving the clock and the time and Brady beat them at the end. But I'm telling you this team tune? Oh, Jacksonville. Last year. Bortles had twenty one touchdowns. You already has five and all they need this guy to do not make the big mistake. Keep the clock running and they didn't even have four net, right? He didn't even play. They don't have their best receiver. Mckee's lean that this team is a good foot. Football team that I believe will represent the AFC last year. They were almost there. They couldn't get over the home this year. They get over the hump and I think that this will be. It's like a a as time goes on, you keep chipping away. I think they've chip chipping away chipping away at the patriots, and then they will be able to finally get there and beat them. I don't even know if the patriots going to be an AFC championship game. To be honest. I'm not really counting on them being an AFC championship game account on it, but I'm positive positive that the Jacksonville Jaguars book it. Okay. Going to represent the AFC Super Bowl, you. Minds without say, if Blake Bortles gonna play like Blake Bortles on sending Jeep. If they're good enough to be the Representative for the AFC and the Super Bowl, but I'm not as long disease. Jillian, Ataman. We'll be back in week five them citing Josh Gordon unless you know that coach villa check is willing to do whatever it takes. Now, coach shakes there, something that you don't normally hear him say he said, we'll lot better than what we showed normally just say, we got beating all three pages. He never lose to how good they actually are. I've never heard him say that. So unless you point it lets you know that he thinks he has a very good team. I'm not concerned at all Bill. Go fix now. The defend can't be any worse than what they were on Sunday. Can this get? They gotta be a little better and I thought you and I both thought opening week against the Texans with hadn't seen them, put generate that kind of pass, rush in five, ten years, and they were all lower the Shawn Watson, and then come Sunday. They got nowhere near Blake Bortles. Now maybe flowers going out. Maybe that has something to do. He was concussion protocol. Chung Joan went out late later in the ballgame. Concussion protocol, but I'm not concerned. This is Tom Brady, this is coach Bela check. And as long as those two guys are together is like Penn and teller. When you tell me one of those guys leaving, that's what I'll tell you the show is going about to be over, but as long as thin and teller, I'm not worried about as long as it's Brady end Bella check or Belichick and Brady, however you wanna put him. I, I'm not concerned. Are you saying Brady and Belle check with smoke and mirrors mirrors, and glue and skip. I'm gonna tell you right now while you get all worked up about Josh Gordon, he will not and not be the magical elixir. I got three named for you. Ocho Cinco went to New England failed. Albert Hanes worth went to New England failed. He mice floored. Floyd went to New England failed. It's not oughta Madigan to Kenny Brin. Okay. Another name. Go ahead. What do you got? Rob Parker Bethany yet another this, that New England will not make the AFC championship game. Wait a minute. Women will not will not go to the Super Bowl, no shit. You said they're not gonna make the championship game. Thank you to dinners. Wow. Get on your, I'll have no zero confidence that the patriots going to be there at one point before the season started, I believe you said they wouldn't make the playoffs. No, that was just purply. So I'm going to remind you that let's go back to twenty fourteen fourth game of the year. Bell check and Brady went to Kansas City and lost forty one to fourteen and everybody said, that's it. They're finished, Tom Brady's washed up. Bell check, didn't get him enough help and they are done. And what happened? A Super Bowl championship came out of that one. Then I'll just remind you. Let's just go to last year opening night Thursday night in Foxborough that chiefs did it again. Forty two to twenty seven told you to choose don't get mean anything when your bed that what that means, if you told me going into Sunday's game that one Blake Bortles who he has little to no respect for with throw for three seventy seven and four touchdowns and that his team would roll up thought almost. Five hundred yards and thirty one points ten for fourteen on third down. I would definitely not pick Tom Brady's team because there's no. No, no way Tom Brady could overcome that because that's just a disaster. And I still say, Bill checks. Defenses are getting pretty overrated here is he losing his fastball? I don't know because to your point, I'm going to bet on Tom Brady here, but I'm not betting on Belgique when I'm saying they're going to be in the championship game, Tom Brady is going to have to overcome what didn't look like a very good defense. And it was the same defense. He almost overcame in the Super Bowl. And if you told me that the Philadelphia Eagles would roll up five hundred thirty eight yards and foles with dole for three seventy three and three touchdowns and they score forty one points in the Super Bowl. I would not have pick Tom Brady all all he did was throw for five. Oh five and score. Thirty three did have the big fumble at tight again. Well, he had one drop. So did he throw any interceptions in the Super Bowl? No, he did not. He. He is now played eight quarters in the last eight months against Jacksonville has thrown one interception against the Jacksonville, Jaguars as good as they are as severe as that pass rushes, they got the two best corners in tandem in pro-football. Has he throwing one interception in two full football games against Saxon Ville? Not one. That's pretty great. I thought he was good enough to win the game. I thought it would be a low scoring game. I thought it'd be twenty two seventeen New England, but I liked the way he played and he doesn't have anybody. And now he's got, he's got a symbol of the possible. Randy moss receiver. I don't know how fast the problem is. Randy moss came back in April. They got him in April. They had all of the off-season or the whole training camp, but Josh Gordon could be ran. Only problem is, is enchanted was it played eleven games James since thirteen? Eleven games. He can't stay on the field. I think New England hoping wish, but his track record tells you. I'm, I wish him nothing but the best. But if you ask me, do I think he's going to finish the year in New England. I say, no, that they'll be some issue where he doesn't show up late or something and these done there. You know if he late for meeting? Yeah, for practice, he. 'cause you're not gonna tolerate it? He won't. I got a feeling he's going to be really good. I hope so. I got a feeling Tom Brady's talented guy. I wanna love this city. I mean, he could be the difference maker and Julian Edelman in two more games will come back and all of a sudden that's his best target. And if he's got a wide out, it can run by people those guys defense but don't. Okay. So that's Jacksonville, skip Jacksonville will win, said matter with them. I mean, they they went to into in two thousand fourteen. They won to the went to into last year. They went to the different year. I'm Brady's forty one. Now, do you understand that Bob radio branding, keep you right? Fly on t. Playa by bring LeBron uses vibration, Tom Brady uses pliability, do you? Do you see LeBron posting videos? I am working out in a gym, bad lifetime. Ain't Mrs. Schott. Doug. It him and Ben Simmons. Really. So why hasn't he been scrimmaging with this team bit him in Cal Cal Koonce there right now? Really, he'd been posting that him coons really. Yep. All I hear is China one day Paris the next day, Las Vegas the next day. I'm never seen an itinerary in the offseason like LeBron James that six fifty g thinks, hey, you impaired one day you in Shane, how the next day you in Vegas the nephew you in New York. All I heard was ridicule in the off season while Tom Brady was actually taking a vacation with his kids with his kids. LeBron kids are in school right now travel day. I'll just have one question though. Not LeBron is in LA. Have y'all been hanging out? You've got a call from now. He's the biggest guy. Won't even be a rich Powell really make business move. Are you really Lauren beg about getting me a production company? Think about it. Going who breaks. No, the broad broad, Toby he will. He won't. He won't come on board. If I, you. No time for company does. Somebody got cooking couple is in the fire, you know, keeping skill. You know, how do, hey, well, rob, when we need to break news again, we will know who to call thank you for being here. We are not talking about the Brown experts Carson Wentz because he is back and should the eagles. Again, we'll discuss back. Carson Wentz is back. He was cleared for contact yesterday and we'll start against the colts Sunday on FOX once has been out for over nine months after tearing his ACL and elsia. And despite the injury, though, Doug Peterson said yesterday that he will not coach scared. The eagles currently said at one and one, Nick foles has only thrown one touchdown, pass this season Shannon. What do you expect having once MAC. Smack you'll be a little roof. The earliest played in. Nope. Briefly built, hey, no alshon might Wallis broke his leg on Sunday. You know, he's going to be a little handicap, but but don't worry about him all walk it into. We'll walk in a couple of weeks. He'll shake, shake, dog get wet. He's shaking what often he'll shake now Russ off it and before you know it, he'd be throwing about three fifty, four hundred really. So he'll be a little rusty early. I'm not worried about him. Just like I told you what was going to happen fold would be more like Nick foles not the guy that you saw in the NFC championship game. Not the guy that you saw in the Super Bowl, but I know what you wanted to you. See, you want him to be good because you wanted to send you want to gotta make decision, Nick foles. He's winning news Super Bowl in the silly me. I thought the Super Bowl in DP played very well on Sunday in Tampa because Nick foles went thirty five of forty eight for three thirty four and a touchdown. No interceptions while to them would have full. If I would lost twenty seven to twenty one because the eagle defense gave up four hundred and thirty six yards to fits magic four, thirty six. What happened to the eagles defend? What is good? What happened to make foes averaging five point five yards. Tim only Sam Bradford and Mitchell Trubisky average fewer. So one of my supposed to do with that that that of forty eight three thirty four. Those are pretty good numbers. QBR of eighty on scale zero to one hundred. That's pretty good. I feel sorry for your kid walk it to him because he's gonna come back into harm's way here because you've got the hardware cleared. Okay. So the Super Bowl MVP is going to be on the sideline over here older and you're in the city of Philadelphia, which rather low once booed Santa Claus and he should've been your kid missed the whole. Plus he hasn't played one playoff snap in his life. And all of a sudden there's no alshon who helped make both winter and foles last year. Alshon clearly the number one. Okay. There an Kwan Bolden aid catch anything in his air. Okay. With that. The a rusty. All right. I don't care about the rust, but I care about no alshon and no deep threat because there's no toys myth or Mike Wallis. Now wait, there's no legare blunt. So they have plunged in rushing tied for eighteenth in the NFL so far in rushing. So it's not like it was last year when they were the third-best rushing. Yeah. So you don't have a running game. You don't have a number one or number two receiver. Wow, that's that's some tough sledding for your kid. Man to come into Philadelphia. They're going to be ready to the first interception Heathrow's you're going to hear about it for where about it? You know, within Phillies skill omit, you know what? They printed mints money and ring really though to egos going to get another one of the ring. I feel sorry for this kid seriously. You know, who is ever come back for the Super Bowl, indie, p. and replace. It's never happened the history of this, what you should feel sorry for is your quarterback because we have now we have to change object. He's going to be judged against what my quarterback really my quarterback, but dominated really? Yeah. You jump on a lot of bandwagon. Vying flood cry, eagles cry because this can be a tough one. They're not gonna grow in any way. My my quarterback played really well the other night on national TV, really, really what really made all the plays that counted had a QBR eighty. Eight of the last name games. He's been on the two hundred yards passing. I mean, did it again. I'll just look trouble. I was just looking at Aggie story. Yeah, they all say. But anyway, as I was saying, you can get away with couldn't get try. Like, you know, mad at home if I ever did. How that I'd be. I'd be out on the sidewalk. You try to do. He tried. He always tried to drag us. We're not going to now I didn't say do gene. We smart enough to know what we try to do. You try to divide and conquer us. We not in front of Conwy United against. I know what you're trying to do. You try to bring Dak Prescott back into to converse oats about cars. I can tell you're starting to sweat over there. They call it on the. I told you yesterday, Troy Aikman was often under two hundred yards a game because they ran the football with emits myth the greatest rusher in the history of the league. And right now, my Cowboys are running football team in one of the runners is the quarter. Are you? Are you telling me that Dak Prescott in Troy. Aikman should be in the same breath as we yet, but he's on the way he's just on the day. So van on the road. If you don't mind me asking if he's going to throw a two hundred yard and you're gonna ask him to be very high end game manager that a bunch of three hundred yard games. Did he have won against Aaron Rodgers? Yes, he did in a playoff game two for three hundred Zach. Good. Yeah, that was good. I'm just gonna put up thirty one points against Aaron, Ron. I'm just asking you Jerry and Stephen Jones. I'm Jerry Steve. Yeah, you Daqing his Representative. You high in game in how you come to me and say, you won't twenty eight thirty million dollars when you're not giving me but two hundred yards past. Well, you should go to cheery right now and say, why didn't you give me a number one receiver or why didn't get me a number two receiver? Why is my offense down over the low apt act? Breath got said in March, that number one receivers, overrated the, he spreads the ball around. He say that. Caro- have number one. So you have to say, we'll be okay with another where you saying the right for the team because he is the political. Are you say company? Yeah. Oh, no. You have to keep the locker room together. All it. It all I'm saying is what he's seeing. If it's you do shame his receivers. We don't have a good received how he's nobody asked him to shame. You know what? I'm in a good spot with my quarterback. You not so much the team on the verge of decline that team while tool that defense gave arguable or thirty no wall. Get out really weird out. How would you like to come back situation in which your defense is teetering? You don't have a running game. You don't have a one or two receiver. Wow, interesting. I'll aga- Lor that. I've been on a team that I quarterback had missed a couple of the game Jan. He came back. Giant defense started flying around guy, started making plays in the next thing. You know, really, we saw above the NFL Bubby Brister. Okay. Nick full, Super Bowl, indie. P the two greatest back toback playoff games I have ever seen from quarterback. Wow. You don't see too well. Getting back now. I'm per final topic of the day. The Pittsburgh post gazette is reporting in Tonio Brown did not show up to team meetings yesterday. The reason is unclear, but it comes a day after AB had an exchange with a former Steelers, pure man on Twitter who said he owed his success too Big. Ben Brown responded saying, quote, trade me, let's find out if he could have success with another team Shannon, what's your reaction are who until you head this AB has this absence approved by coach Tomlin unclear. At this point he did. This is a very bad look. It almost looked like he's pouting he soaking because things didn't go quite the way he envisioned on Sunday and he's he's upset, and this is just not a good look. I don't know what's going on, but this is the Rooney's are watching. And this is not a good look for coach Tomlin coach needs to call heavy meeting as they guys. Okay. I've tried to give you guys some slack some leeway, but you're taking my kindness for weakness. So I'm going to put the kabosh on a lot of this. This all this Chirpin and all this excess talking. This is going to cease. Starwood AB, then we'll have a meeting with the team in that I'm having individual meeting with n. Tony. So I've covered a lot of NFL teams in my day. In the one line you don't cross is missing work just flat out with no excuse missing work. I don't know teams that will abide that they won't let that slide. What you dislike, skipping school, you'll count want to clamp today. You've got a job with this could be the beginning of the end of this football team, and it might be the beginning of the end of his time in Pittsburgh because this organization's not going to sit still not a good look scale because this is unnecessary. I don't know what's going on end Tonio. I don't know why he's upset. He's got his Monday did whether you catch five passes a fifty Antonio. You're gonna be the same. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny tapped join us again at the same time tomorrow morning. Nine thirty eastern. See you then.

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yesterday and by the way i'm trying to get off the knicks because i don't want to depress myself but i was just just watching them in their box score and all this other stuff in do you know there's not one single person on the new york knicks that's average four sist- again now one person on new york knicks averaging four assists again just let me move on to so football related matters philadelphia eagles are first and foremost my mind because they're not impressive anymore we notice carson wentz is football games that looks awful but unlike most people particularly following the seventeen nine loss the seattle seahawks yesterday i'm not gonna throw out i'm not gonna throw carson wentz out with dirty bathwater figuratively speaking of course us here's my thing first of all russell wilson made every play every throw that he needed to one really counted and caused a winston it exactly the opposite secondly the seattle seahawks if i remember correctly rushed for one hundred and seventy four yards on the day on twenty six carries averaging six point seven yards a carry helped by a fifty eight yard run by costs by our penny he finished fourteen cash one hundred and twenty nine yards away russell also wilson thirteen to twenty five hundred yards sacked six times relatively pedestrian performance by his stands but nevertheless did whatever it took to get the job done laser gentlemen to me carson wentz is symptomatic of a big problem so is doug peterson and that's the fact that how roseman your general manager has gotten you to play that he needed i was reading an article in philadelphia for months earlier last spring where everybody was talking about all the the bodies that the philadelphia eagles had added and everybody was over thirty in a league week at a time when everybody's trying to get younger howie roseman wanted to get out and then the fragility comes into play y'all wondering what the hell happened why don't you just pay pay attention the fact of the matter is that it hasn't been good and when you look at it from this perspective last yesterday after noon carson wentz was playing without his three wideouts there was no this sean jackson there was no alshon jeffery there was no nelson agrelo period never had a running game speak of so you got all of that going on what do you expect that doesn't help that he lost two fumbles it doesn't help that he got into septa twice it doesn't help that his his name is directly attached to four separate turnovers for the philadelphia eagles absolutely true i'm i'm not here to absolve costs and winstrom anything but we all know he's got skills for those of you who are wondering oh my lord life with so much better if we had nick foles how's it doing jacksonville guy hit the various got hurt the very first game was out the next ten weeks comes back men's shoe was benched nick foles done they've been outscored seventy five to thirty three cents richard he's thrown a ball over forty times till later on for three hundred yards a game the reality is that the eagles roster roster is not that impressive there they were hell bent on living that super bowl run as former player said taking that they still had it that they can still go out there and do some things instead of systemically recognized who they are what their deficiencies were what they needed to work on an address and that was that now early in the season i saw guys dropping catches there was a touchdown catch against detroit that was dropped would have won the game there was a touchdown catch on donald going down the left sideline by nelson galore had he caught that day to beat atlanta those two two victories right there they want those two games will be a first place right now it would be the dallas cowboys it would be the philadelphia eagles but it is what it is not the case and again i'm not trying to absolve cost winstrom anything because i know he's been awful but if you know that to operate behind the eight ball coming into a game week after week after week chances are you're going to overcompensate particularly when you consider that you have the skills to do it you're going to try to pull it off more often than not you lose that way and i understand it but you also understand his desire is to try and overcompensate because he recognized what they don't have working for fidel you howie roseman how do you allowed to have how do you pay a hundred and nine million dollars and in turn around and don't give him the requisite the pieces that he needs at least bill belichick patriots on the pain brady at least they are not making a long term investment at least they're sitting there and making them earn every every petty and soleus contract with the latest stuff he would always a six time super bowl champion the philadelphia eagles when a guy cost who's never so much has played a playoff game for you because he's been engineered tot the super bowl will run their their after when you beat chicago plays last year this is the guy that you gave me one hundred nine million guaranteed dollars too so why would you then turn around and not give give him the requisite weapons that he needs why would you be a roster bereft of depth so in the event that these older players very familiar with the injured list by the way we'd be covered by having somebody else to replace i don't think causing winter's been impressed by dam site i think he's been awful but are we really going to point the finger at him where we look at what he's working with he hasn't helped but the redesign hasn't helped either coaching here but wishing he was coaching nick foles volts based on his play calling i'm saying and how he rose it charters rust how much longer can do you get to live off the fact that you're not chip kelly because we know how god awful he was an l. a.'s finding that out now with him and UCLA LA you're the one with argue they are getting a little better the point that i'm trying to make his it's carson wentz is not the problem he's a symptom of the problem that's my personal opinion what about joe it they'd say ESPN it's edited seven nine three seven seven six by the way in terms of the new orleans saints i don't like what i saw yesterday i don't like like the fact that drew brees seems to be targeting michael thomas exponentially more than everybody else when i think team's defenses in a postseason are gonna make thank you talk it somebody else jared cooks the world and others as for the green bay packers getting stopped in alpha jimmy graham what the hell are you i'm just wondering totta alive even able to as the big show big fan of are your show i saw your take on carson just now his QBR sixty two i this year i get it he doesn't have the weapons a lot of injuries juries they bought an older guys but when you're an elite quarterback if you're going to be up there with tom brady do you want to be up there with those guys not you've got to perform you'll get say that because he's not he wasn't MVP about two years ago taranto two years ago he was the league MVP kennedy he would have won the league okay now got hurt that was thirteen weeks into the season he was clearly the leading candidate for league MVP honest that's an inaccurate statement on your part i i think i think from i'm from philadelphia steven a. and we're we're tough on our players but i think i think it's time to move away from carson and look at somebody these drafts and the young players justin herber from oregon you got away he played saturday you yeah i'll take him off players turnover NFL player four turnovers that's one bad afternoon i gave you two games could could've easily won and recently as three weeks ago the lead the eagles were leading the league in dropped passes at about fifteen sixteen you go forget that jack lowe nellie dropping like babies all i'm saying is they're dropping passes to guess what would be higher if they caught those passes it hit right in the hands that's that's factual here that's not emotion carson carson getting paid too much right now it's just that's the best you got i came back at you would they were leading the league in dropped passes at about fifteen sixteen and and there's two to three games that were literally game winners if they had caught those passes at the end of the game at all you got all you got is that that's all oh you got you're gonna choose that type of play no i said i said it was an awful game but the point of the matter is the the who are having an awful season and when you look at some of these guys around him how do we ignore the fact there's no quarterback this assessment on the football to himself you gotta catch passes he overthrew mile standards yesterday for easy targets he over here dial tone if you bring up yesterday one more time i said we agree on yesterday i said i'm talking about the season it is undeniable niable what has happened this season to him we can't ignore the roster that was given to him how roseman i don't think causing this is having a great season by any stretch of the imagination but it's been contributed by dudes dropping passes it's been contributed about guys not being healthy is a conservative attributed by guys being older and more fragile can you deny that now i can't have a nice day take it easy mike go ahead hey man the first time caller i would just like to say i wanna know if you saw the report by ian rapoport this weekend that the giants are trying to look at jason garrett once this grace what a disgrace i'm glad you brought that up that's a freaking joke what is what is jason garrett don on to make to warrant the giants bringing him to new york city tell me what that is where i don't know like when i when i saw that i i actually actually got a week banned from twitter from my response to that i couldn't i couldn't fathom what like what's going on in new york what's going on with the front bought it with him he changed why ban a week ban from twitter why oh 'cause my respond very sovereign right there how old are you i'm thirty five you could've control your emotions to the point where you could express yourself and your vehemence against it without getting banned from twitter i mean there's not trying to i'm trying to being dead serious i'm trying to help you hear my brother i'm saying what does it say about uh-huh yourself without getting get banned i mean it was just you know there's a lot of motion the season's going pretty pretty bad for the chinese you've going horrible actually and with that news i i kinda like flip the switch no excuse forgive you but what i'm saying to you as my brother other UN intelligent young man with a bright future ahead of you not they're getting banned from twitter is the be all end all but it is indicative of an individual they can't control themselves themselves you can control yourself bro you press this up without get bands all i'm trying to say that that's true that's true i know but i when i saw that it was just ridiculous like you gotta airways about the knicks but i don't have to control myself i feel like i feel like a speaking of the knicks i feel like do if this goes through that john mara might be the next game is all in all right i got it i appreciate the call thank you so much let's go to will you live stephen stephen go ahead steven steven a big fan of the show for the time caller thanks i think going back to the philadelphia situation i think is more of the perfect storm and what i mean by that is the defense was injured beat up causing wasn't his best game players being out on all says offensive line receivers howard running back gets point i don't need us go ahead eh i just don't i don't think i don't think it's just carson wentz and i don't think it's just being the players being old i just think it's just a collaboration and things i don't think any anyone personal thing to blank when everybody's trying to particularly go ahead all right i got i appreciate the call thank you so much let's let's go to call you live with stephen able to even any man i got a problem with everybody down on carson wentz the the problem is they're not giving them a weapon he has no weapons to throats and i i blame the offensive coordinator i blame the the coach those quarterbacks coach you know i mean if we go back two years ago and see what happens you know it's crazy carson wentz is not the problem yes awesome weapons from weapons that's all i got to say all right appreciate the call williams you live with stephen a big fan of you thank you go ahead i was going i'm a die hard patriots fan i've been hearing a lot of chatter lately they keep saying comedy's gone downhill do you believe that no i don't believe tom brady has done i don't believe he's what he used to be but i don't believe he's done i believe that he's devoid of weapons i think that listen listen nicole harry got four receptions on the season this kid lacoste whatever the hell is named the tight end he's got six receptions receptions on the season got tom brady throwing the guys like rex burkhead okay are you kidding me i mean what was he as opposed to do there's no listen i put an people think i'm joking but i'm not joking i'm not exaggerating and i'm not and i want to preface my comments by reminding everybody i don't know what happened with antonio brown and his personal life i don't know whether he's guilty or innocent of the sexual assault allegations that have been levied against him if if he's innocent he needs to prosecute young lady if he's guilty he needs to pay the price period that's how i feel about it but i would ask everybody lina put this in perspective tom brady is widely considered a family man he is married to a gorgeous supermodel they have have wonderful children they are rich beyond their years etc he has to super six super bowl titles rather and nine super bowl appearances tom brady has all of that going for him and invited antonio brown to stay day in his home the significant do you have any idea how desperate tom brady must be for for receiver to do that just think about deficit let me ask you let me ask you a question williams and again we're not casting any aspersions any kind of guilt on antonio brown whatsoever we don't know what happened okay i don't know i don't know what the facts are but if somebody gets accused of sexual assault or you inviting them into your home no sir no i'm not no so what does this say to you that tom brady not only invited demand in the home but let us welcome to state as you want it keep antonio brown he wanted to keep him i'm just saying how does that speak to the desperation antonio that tom brady must be feeling yeah yeah we need help we need help and there's no gronkowski josh gordon is in seattle antonio brown has gone all i'm saying is who the hell is tom brady's throwing a ball to how do we ignore that that's all i'm saying one more question one more question for you glad who who right now who's your excuse from AFC that SE who go to the super bowl right now if i had to pick right down it would be san francisco versus baltimore okay ah okay even if the road goes to foxborough you know right now right now yes because i don't know if the patriots have an answer for his ability to run the football unless it's implement with i don't know if they have an answer i gotta run i appreciate the call let's go to richard you'll office even richard stephen mind how about them sayings birth talk me man i'm i'm loving the man who had a few excuse last no yesterday you know a few third downs we could've convert on but i loaded the comeback win a lot of the finish and other game you know i love the a lot of energy we plan with offense defense we got a few things we need to pick up on our secondary of course but i feel once let him more comeback everything we'll be back on what you say that a lot of more back PJ where us gave up one hundred yards two touchdowns yesterday that's not impressive i will tell you that number two i don't like the fact that the patriots were trying to saints rather made it so interesting against cal carolina they are physical team they're not gonna get punked like green bay did last night in sanford and in santa clara but nevertheless you do expect by and see here's the thing about san francisco kgo san francisco really really get at the quarterback drew brees is not a mobile quarterback and on top that all chances dances all the road to the super bowl is going to come through northern california rather new orleans i think all three work against new orleans plus michael thomas has one hundred and four receptions for twelve hundred and forty two yards your next leading receiver is camara who who missed a couple of games who has little over four hundred yards receiving that's how big of a discrepancy it is one man going to be the san francisco forty niners that's my concern concerned right now about new orleans i feel like put it we put camaro knows that and incorporate multi tastes them hill against sporting honours i believe could be going to be a close game but i believe i believe we will come through okay that's emotion i appreciate it is nothing wrong with you oh for your team but i don't think it's founded on anything substantive i appreciate the call matt thank you so much it at eight say is in at eight seven to nine three seven six up up next voice of monday night football the one only himself boga mcfaul and we'll be on the talk to us about some of yesterday's actions at tonight's match up between the baltimore ravens and los ed's let's ranch will stick around on tests that you're listening to steven a. 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tell he's frustrated and i think that you know with the amount of money that he spent in the amount of tournament effort they put into building this team that he thinks they should be farther along offense defense special teams and i think the frustration that comes out it's to be expected i just don't like the way it comes out because it doesn't help your football team win jerry jones is all about winning into me then you you you keep it in house and you can still have the same feeling but you just call it this garrett into the office and and you know to me when you come out and you put it in in the public air and now it becomes not just about the feelings now becomes a little bit about the show oh and then the in that was my biggest takeaway you know jerry it's your team you can do what you want say what you want but what's the ultimate goal is the ultimate go to win the ultimate goal to be a i'm not a reality show but just a a a a situation where we're always in in the media because we're putting our coach in a tough for based on you know post game news conferences and things of that nature is it possible to jerry jones owns what contributed mostly to his frustrations the fact that he gave ezekiel elliott ninety million dollars and before the season began fifty million in guarantees the guys averaging over twenty over four yards a carry yesterday and you didn't get the football more in those weather conditions then could you know i there's a lot of people talk about the cowboys seen prepare for the weather and you know that could have been an issue but i mean dollars with this rain sleet snow sunshine doesn't matter every game planning us you start with ezekiel elliott i mean he's back in football so i i don't really give them a pause regardless of the weather they have to stat or number twenty one now you know the patriots a lot of men coverage and they were gonna make it tough run yesterday and so maybe they wanted to take advantage of someone on opportunities but if you say that now let's look at amari cooper amari cooper is as is good a route runners we've seen in a long time and i don't care if they're trying to give moore was covering the mark cookbook i if he's your number one and that's their number one corner we gotta how confidence in our guy and and take advantage of the match up so i didn't like the cowboys game plan overall now even with that being said the blocked punt really changed the game i mean there's thirteen to nine and the cowboys defense i don't play that sanding really only giving up a couple of dries so in in the end i think if you're a cowboy it's disappointing laws because they which i think has been killing he'll really play well we'll give it follow right here with steven ESPN radio ESPN news for get to this monday night matchup that you're getting ready to call tonight san francisco forty niners looked like the best has team football i think a lot of people are trying to throw excuse me throw credit jimmy garoppolo direction he's not scrub particularly in today's climate he's word worthy of seventy two million a guaranteed he's received but nevertheless i think there's several things you think about when you think about the forty niners he's thinking about that defense specifically that front for not to mention their running game and of course college shanahan when you look at the forty niners a do you believe the best team in football if not the NFC right now and if so why if not why not i think they're the best team in i do i believe in a formula i believe in that style i believe in what they what they do because he travels it doesn't matter the weather doesn't matter the opponent in gonna run the football and they're gonna take their five or five deeper salaam that they rotate and they're gonna try to take your offense and they're just gonna shut down your throat and there you block those guys and to this point in the season nobody's ever able to block them i mean stephen we all know him rogers as you say he is a bad man roger last night and he didn't even belong in in in any NFL let alone as quarterbacks we've ever seen because pressure does that to you and because of that front four and you flip it open the other side how they run the football george cato is a top two tidying in in the lead guilty you look at emmanuel emmanuel sanders coming over now they have a legitimate number one people send your into his own and i get it people questioned jimmy garoppolo but i mean all these gonna show up and and they just keep winning so i believe in the forty niners i think the best team up see they're gonna play the ravens so we're gonna find out how the matter for it's one of the top two teams the AFC i think the patriots are want and the raiders or two in the AFC which all going to begin giving follow right here with steven eight years ESPN radio ESPN news get to this monday night encounter obviously raved about the ravens we've talked about the greatness of lamar jackson most people would send to have him him as a top two MVP candidate in this league right now him russell wilson but we cannot estimate the job to john hough has done that this defense has done particularly since the the acquisition of marcus peters etc what the hell is happen to the los angeles rams particularly on the offensive side of the ball had people figured out sean mcveigh exactly or is the person heard sean mcvay most jared goff i think it's a combination of a lot of things i would start with the offense of mine under the continuity annuity hasn't been there andrew whitworth is really the only guy that's been for me and so what that does is now you have an offense events where its main weapon last couple years in the offense running and consistent so now more quarterback and jared all ah regress a little bit like i can go back to last year's chicago game and it carried over to the super bowl he hasn't been the same time making bad decision consistency and so there's a lot of blame to go around i would start though with the offensive line and then go to the quarterback i think we saw last last week that if you give keris he can still be the bearer then you know i think they're going to produce tonight against the ravens team that's going to be really aw motivated to stop this game we talk about todd gurley he's only got five hundred and twenty five yards rushing on the season one hundred twenty nine attempts that's an average of four point one yards a carry that's not slouch that's not miserable it's not ultra impressive but it's definitely a bit above decent tell us what you're seeing from todd curly what do you get when you actually watch him run the football in this day and age compared to what he did in years past i i watched the chicago tape last which and i saw the same todd gurley it just makes you wonder like is this is this something that is based on the number of camp so he's getting and based on the usage or is this based on it different in win the learfields do it he can give you this that's a portion i don't know he's turned the tape on last us we watched him play against the bears i watched them play against the steelers early in the season i mean he looks at closer he looks you're gonna come down on heal yes yes several catches whereas we'd so i'm looking forward tonight seeking you have back to back fan mus like like we're used to seeing liked the target earlier bowl the rams are going to need that if they're gonna go august raising his team and and and be able to control the clock and not won't tackle the modulation all night talking to book follow right he had talking about curly-haired twelve registered seventy three yards against the steelers had twenty five carries for ninety seven yards ars last week against los angeles against chicago bears bergamot fall and talking right here with steven here's PO radio ESPN news so what do you expect to see from night oh what what are you looking for most tonight specifically from the baltimore ravens with the way everybody's raving about them getting set to go up against this los angeles rams team a lamar mark jackson that's got amer donald those boys to deal with what are you expecting well trying to take out of the game but then it probably does not anything new everybody again i think they're gonna attack the edges and and this name has come down to can klay matthew and dante solid junior and they tackle mark ingram and lamar jackson i think they're gonna make those two guys the a vital part of the game and and say goodbye the raiders are running football team wonderful ball where the ingram johnson and make tiny game ruse it's a really receiver he is really really athletic titanium and they're gonna try to get the football to him but here's the thing like just when you take that away they'll got thrown over the top the hollywood bound and so they have just enough weapons on the outside but this game is gonna come down to the rams stop the run did they stop the run other bama be very close and i think the ramp of every chance to win it late if you don't stop along right now last question if i had to put but you on the spot and your league MVP candidate needed to be decided today who would it be russell wilson lamar jackson somebody else i'm giving it to lamar the my jackson and and and that's coming from a guy who a year ago i wasn't a believer i cover them in college i was one of the few people who said that you know this wire receiver or running back and not quarterback i i was one of the few people to go on record to say that i think a lot of people thought that when you watch them play against the chargers lashing the playoff game when to fifty minutes you don't have completed pre passing but you fast forward a year and everybody's on the bandwagon now so am i and i i'll come around because i i've watched a young man and be disappointed how he played against the chargers and go back and and get better they went back in your home this crap he went back and he has an organization is built around him a lot of support and he's rewarded john hough ball he's rewarded arctic ozzie newsome because he wanted them with exceptional play spectacular focus one of the hardest worker and i think the thing the people rave about him in baltimore is he's galvanized the team he's bridge the gap between young and old and the new guy everybody loves skidding so i've been really impressed with the with the improvement he made he he would be if i had a vote i give him right now as MVP just because us of what he's doing in this league any improvement he may from charger game until now it's been talking about lamar jackson baltimore ravens number the two in yards allowed number one offense league in in points number one offense in terms of running the football bogeyman father looking forward to listening to you deny nyima man we will be watching them we will listen thanks a bunch but anybody right one of the only bucket 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Hour 1: Lucky or Good?

First Take

32:30 min | 10 months ago

Hour 1: Lucky or Good?

"Good morning and welcome to I take on raw golden filling in for Molly Karen. I'm here with Stephen a Smith Max Kellerman on this fun Friday. Hey how are you going on. I'll tell you what about Fridays now. Thursday night footballs giving us something to talk about has not not like recent years boy these games dramatic absolutely great segue. You should be the host fruit well Thursday night. Football did not disappoint as Max said as the seahawks walk squeaked out a thirty two twenty nine win at Centurylink Russell Wilson lit up making spectacular plays but it came down to a missed field goal by the Rams Max where the seahawks merely lucky to get this one. They weren't merely lucky but yes. They were lucky to win. The seahawks were by definition lucky to win it first of all that was not roughing the passer. It wasn't roughing. The passer greeted on Clay Matthews Clayton absolutely not I mean that's that's such a penalty to take nothing for doing. Nothing look well. How is this weapon. The passer and you can see on replay it wasn't even helmet to helmet and that's not even what I'm talking about because you overcome that if you're the SEAHAWKS and marched down the field you score Russell Wilson's things that's good for the seahawks and luck doc that happens you know jared goff through some balls. It could have been picks and that stuff whatever but here's how they got Lucky Stephen and there's no way around it jared Goff. Last drive of the game was excellent. He was the best version of himself. GETS THEM TO FORTY FOUR YARD field goal. Yep and you have have one of the great kickers in the NFL now a forty four yard field goal in that range. You're around seventy five percent likely to hit in three out of four times. You hit it. If you have a great kicker you gotta figure it's at least four out of five times that elevates it from seventy five over eighty percent likely okay and and this is the one time he misses. I mean this not like the froze the kick or anything like that right nothing like that. He's simply missed the fifth well. He's going to be kicking into no. It's nothing like that. The dude just missed a kick. He makes four out of five times. That's pure luck. I disagree with you number. One you missed the offside penalty that made them go back and additional five yard because it was such a close miss had they not got that penalty might have went through before the right a little bit. You just never no. I'm just saying because it was that close. No doubt sort of false start ain't luck. That's a mistake on your part as a team. That's number one number two Russell Carson twenty seven carries. One hundred eighteen yards was balling last night ground attack. Obviously was formidable something that they knew they would need to do coming into the game they they did. They deserve credit from that number three. Did you see them dime passes Russell. Oh my Lord to lock it with the forty yards capped Eh last night sensational everytime I big play needed to be made with his all or with his legs and it's not just a yardage because he ran for thirty two yards is it wasn't just that it was how he was scrambling out of the pocket literally high stepping in tip Utah out of the pocket of warning tackles extending plays. You just can't say enough the performance got Russell Russell Wilson put forth and he was absolutely spectacular particularly when they needed to most. I was very very disgusted. WHO's the kid was a top obstinate. got the interception the great great interception when his hand got under the Boyle Russell Wilson put the ball in the receivers hands. It was talking to no. I'm saying when a guy I think think every drop to pass it went right through and Thompson intercepted would annoyed me about him and I want to say this on national television celebrate. You're going up there. Run run into the opposite auto zone. Take pictures acted like the damn game was over then. Seattle couldn't get a first down and then obviously got the ball back and you needed to stop them and they were infield. Go rate and you're right. They should made the feel that's makeable thing for him. Four out of five times we get that but in the end offside penalty costume Russell Wilson cost cost and cost them and I look at it and their own mistake cost of as well the offside penalties well to Klay. Matthew situation was not a rough in the past and they gotta stop that the the see him with the show. It wasn't a head shot. It was shown to any hit below the neck. There's no reason whatsoever the and it wasn't a late hit hit in terms of the timing right and you're just not allowed to tackle. That's right that penalty. Do you think the seahawks get down the field and score the Clay Matthews well listen. I think I think that they possibly would but in the end. La was still in a position to win this game. We can't take away if I'm Sean mcvay. I'm telling the team right after that game. Look yeah there's three into four one but this could be a deflating loss for a team but if I'm coaching team like look let guys were unlucky to three and two we should be four and one the rams like you have a lot of reasons to feel good. If you root for the rams right now first of all they're on the road on a short week against a very good team with a great quarterback making great miraculous. Lewis plays having calls go against them the whole thing and even then in the second half there marching the ball down the field. Oh there goes that rams offense. That's currently scores a couple of touchdowns in the game and after all that Europe you're also not feel sorry not in great field position when jared golf gets the ball back and takes you right down the field. Your quarterback has been alive. Recently was looking damn good late in the fourth quarter when you needed him to orchestrate and drive got you right in range and only because field goal kicker. Mr Shop he could have his should have hit usually does do you lose by the skin of your teeth well. Let's let's remember the fact that Russell Wilson finished evening with a one fifty one quarterback rating. Let's be clear about that. The brother was absolutely only stellar and when you look at it from that perspective and then you look at the you know what the All star. I think it was whatever I'll live game. I'm sorry game penalty. You look at these kind of things. You can't make those mistakes late in the game late in the fourth quarter. That's why I'm not gonNA sit up there and say just look the rams contributed to it not just missed field goal but with miscommunication you with mistakes and also remember that interception at Thompson had it went right to ever Tom Right. That ain't luck as you handling your business period. Ah Well okay fine. It's the quarterback pudding but let's go back for a second the five yard like losing five yards of fuel position late in the game when you need it most. How do you know the exact. Same play gets drawn up right after that because he got nine yards back. That's what I mean if you're if you're a rams fan if you root for the LA team you're looking at that going even when it looked like it's going against us right now. We're kind of out of range. It's still field goal range but you're asking a lot right. The quarterback comes up and makes a play right away. Get you those five yards back and then SOM- put you squarely in very very makeable field like yearbook about what you're missing the reason why bring up the interception because remember at that particular moment in tom-tom is on l. a. side they going for the touchdown. Now they're going for the touchdown so once Thompson intercepts the bowling gives Seattle possession. Even though they weren't able to convert on get a first down and got the ball all back it was still limited amount of time and as a result they will force to have to settle for. There's a difference because there's ups and downs in every game back and forth. That's why I say the roughing the passer. I don't even call that lock whatever right even though it's bad luck for them you can overcome think of that what you're saying they get the ball back and who shows up after the rams offense offense showed up in the second half suddenly defenses there when you need it most three and out give him the on again. You have more time before the interception so you would've winfred touchdown. Lucky lucky Nazi hawks got the wind at four and one right now. Are you buying on them. They were asleep a mind before the season started even by all all right. Hey Hey I'm Karen. 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We bought football underway cowboys host the packers Dallas Sunday both team sitting at three and one and looking to bounce back from a loss last week in weeks for the cowboys lost to the breeze `less saints in New Orleans well to ten as their sputtering offense only managed two hundred fifty seven total yards but that I prescott still was on his watt. You Walk Around this Locker Room when we were or whatever this team's not really can't focus because on that we know the potential team we know how good we can't be and we can't focus necessarily. On what the record is you take the good you take the bad you live and learn from it on you. Give better because of it so everybody's just been in with the mindset of getting better however we can now welcome in Louis Riddick. So nice to see you in person is good to be here so sub small saying is the tweet this more at the tweet this morning about to get up crew. All Living Chippendales. Someone goes comfortable was starting to be comfortable. I apparently the one who came dressed. Let me take the time to go outside. New York. City was ninety two degrees yesterday. Men are going to start red zone own dressing layer all right go. Perhaps doc has to heat it up all right because he's the leader of their offense Steven A. How important is it for doctor have a big game. Believe it or not I think it will be because obviously the you know. The perception is that Green Bay having a twenty six rank defensive against Iran look they've been suspected suspect to run the ball in Ezekiel. Elliott coming off eighteen k the thirty five yard performance didn't even average two yards carry against the saints. He took it personal according to reports he's going to be gung. Ho about going up against Amer Rogers and the Green Bay packers at least that defense all right. We understand that but here's what we're not anticipating them what we're not expecting that. Prescott to make noise against the third ranked defense against the pass in Green Bay for the first quarter the season and so because of that you go on your home turf you in Dallas still. We'll have your car still get paid to everybody around. You get paid in the thirties all right. You got two million dollars you after your money everybody's expecting to revert back to run at least for this particular game because Green Bay coming up who's proven his suspect gets to run particularly over the last couple of weeks and so when you look at it from that perspective if you're Dak Prescott Jerry world on your own turf even with Dallas Cowboy Fans questioning whether now your guy to lead them to the promised land because because you're passing game is suspect and they are because the first time this season you WanNa get a real team as opposed to the giants without Danny Jones Washington being Washington the Miami Ame dolphins do the resident Pop Warner team but NFL the first time you win against a real NFL team in New Orleans you Dak Prescott. You got shut down at all you could do generate ten points you show up against Aaron Rodgers on your home turf. no-one arrives on the opposite side of the field no in Green Bay's at their ranked team against the past and you show out it puts you in a good does of course it's better for Dak and the cowboys if he is a superstar against the packers but he doesn't need to be they have such a good team and Green Bay is listen. The Eagles really exposed. They have a problem running the ball. They've a problem stopping the run. That is a fundamental problem if you're a football team. I don't care whatever we're talking about. Passing whatever Lewis can talk about this better than I can't obviously but you gotta be able to run the ball and stop the run at some level right so let's say they load up against ends to run because this is so clear what's going to happen right and they and they're somewhat effective. DOC will have to hit some strikes down the field of course but he could end the game with something like one touchdown no interceptions two hundred thirty six yards through the air and they can win this game because Zeke Elliot Can Punch one or two in because they can kickoff a couple of field goals because defense could score some points right and all of a sudden you look and you go because Green Bay. It's more of the same Aaron Rodgers has decent simple not great offensive weapons around him. He has a defense. That's gotten better in the secondary but is flawed and he has to do his to be perfect plus plus in order to overcome great teams were all deck has to do and it's not a dirty word is game manage and be big on third down and if he does that which but she's done both throughout most of his career they can win the game look. There's two different things going on here. There's what's good for deck tablas. I'm talking about okay for adapt can you what's good. What's good for deck would be okay. Remember this in this game two now he probably going to be missing both of his offense tackles going up against two guys who are rushing the passer pretty good areas and Preston Smith for the packers so it would be good to say hey look. I have Michael Gallup back. I have my running game going going to average somewhere above four yards for clip against his defense against the run so I'm gonNA utilize play action. I'm a sneak up underneath here between these guards and center the guards and center the backup officer tackles run these guys wide and I'm a distance football and I'm GONNA cut up this defense and I'm GonNa lead on Z and then I'm GonNa cut them up a little a bit more and I'm GonNa use the fact that they can't stop the run to set up my plaques pass. I'M GONNA have a big game and we're GonNa win the game because then I'm going to have people shut their mouth about the fact fact that I'm just a game manager. I'm just a guy who deserves the mid twenties as opposed to thirty five forty million per year. That will be good for deck douse. This is about winning the game just win the football game against a team. That's going to be there in the end. The matter how flawed they are because Aaron's going to keep them there Nia amazing so that's what he needs to do for himself and I think he can do do that within the context is still doing what's good for the team if he does it the way it was. This laid out a big game. I I absolutely do for a number of reasons because I think it's a sets up that way. I don't care what he says or anyone. Else's says they don't listen to us. They don't read the paper they listen to us and they read the paper. That's right and they care about it. All because Dak act wants to be respected as well as paid. Would you think so. I called Tom. Brady a game manager. Now he's Lea. He's going to leave the lead the way he came in a lot of the happens to a lot of great quarterback peyton manning. It's you know at the end. It's people take such offense to that idea but if you're Dak Prescott at this moment career. I think he's likely to get paid. He's likely to get his money. What's wrong with doing what Tom Brady and Russell Wilson both did early. which was rely on a great defense and parts around? You managed the game and be big when your team needs you to be to me. That seems like it will not only get paid. It Could Win Dallas the Super Bowl because people don't like that perception people don't like that label. Put on the missing when you when you say game manager that means I can't elevate everyone else. I have to have everyone else around me in order for me to be successful see people right now. Especially quarterbacks quarterback wanted to be looked at the same way. People look at well with this this you know what I'm saying but that's the one but let me tell you why your point is very very profound when it comes to tech when we saw death as a rookie what what was his shining moment. The Dallas cowboys against the Green Bay Packers Playoffs Dallas is trailing twenty one to three Dak Prescott brings them back and they tied the score at twenty eight that Prescott throws for over three hundred yards in that game he throws throws for three touchdowns in that game we sewall this brother is going to be special because on a big stage with a playoff berth on on the line with Aaron Rodgers on the opposite side of the field he want he went tit for tat with Aaron Rodgers and it took Aaron Roger Scrambling out of the pocket the way Russell Westbrook did last night when it up Russell Wilson Russell Wilson ran to his left before throwing that damage to the corner wanted to lock it Aaron Rodgers scrambled to do that sidelined. I'm seeing data that several youth the way that sets up so in other words that has that thing rally the troops. Don't get down and brought them. All the way back would have won that game if they weren't facing at that point the best quarterback I've ever seen making a play that until Patrick Mahomes came along only he say I'm so that now has to be that knows todd dodger no. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he has to remind everybody of that moment and this is the perfect opportunity because it's the same guy is still an rogers. There is the same Guy Ramada God and the same stadium. You remind them of what we remembered. Most that made us say excuse me we need to look at this brother at Hamburg. Robert is great but you ain't really really again. There's two different things at work here. There's what's good for deck was good for the cowboys and if you can have them both happen but at the same time right now you really are elevating yourself into the discussion of do you belong with the elites. Even he doesn't play against Aaron. If he beats it's him and he puts up three hundred dollars for three touchdowns he ball. He's GonNa shut a lot of people up. He's going to have the people in his own office going exactly if you agree bay what are you going to do. You're going to stack the deck. You go stack the line. You're GonNa say we in Zeki Eliud. No Question Dak Prescott Scott Show was what you got but all loosen up just got to hit a few. It's not a matter of what he can do. Already has its point about. Excuse me remind folks or who you are said such and all is to now. We gotta go to break. You're sticking around all right well. We'll have you back right. Nosy knows you got shirt. Patrick mahomes going nowhere. I'm cool Molly Max and your boy hitting the road again join us from the home of the defending national champion Clemson Tigers. I like Steve Name. It's kind of funny gas. We'll be live at bolling field on Friday. Are They October. We'll love it before. The tide is faced arrival seminole what they complicate is. Nothing short of remarkable party starts at eight. Am Easter Jerk. We'll have plenty of special guests and giveaway so don't miss any of the point of Death Valley ten. Am Eastern on ESPN A special half hour. Show the movie network. The seventy sixers might just be the top team in the East Joel Embiid is down Twenty Pounds Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris. They secured that bag secure those contracts and their place in the process and the the sixers made an off season move to add dependable vet Al Horford to the arsenal however philly also endured big losses floor spacing shooter JJ AJ rhetoric and clutch performer. Jimmy Butler are gone and I'm significance Butler in Joel embiid developed Buddy Buddy relationship during the sixers playoff run and in a sit down with Rachel Nichols Joel expressed how much Jimmy would be missed a big piece in Jimmy in a lot of great things for us Mia name we got to the point where from a really close those we talk a lot and that's my my barter forever wish he was detained because I feel like the relationship got up your within could could've gone a long way. Ni- puts me in a situation where you know I'm GonNa love it. Other guys got to step up and I gotta do more Max. What do you make of Joel. EMBIID's comments obviously a challenge to Ben Simmons to be the guy he can rely on to his crime in part to be a guy who can take over at the end of games 'cause Joylin beef can't get his own shop. The Way Snowman can look. We saw it with intent to couple last year right last postseason. He is more of a big than I realized a couple because he also is sort of the defacto point guard at times from the top of the key when he gets going downhill because he has enough handles to do it and he's an excellent passer but what did they do with it. At the couple they surrounded him with shooters including including Lopez who's not only a five who can and shoot what he can defend the rim so you've rim defender who can play who allows you to play five out so the guy who can't shoot can penetrate you either double him and he we'll find the open man or he's going to bang on you. It was an unstoppable system for the box and it can work even better for the sixers. It can possibly work worked better for them because Simmons got better handles than the freak. Simmons's Simmons is like a toned-down Lebron James with better handles right like he is it can get to the rim and goes hard. So what do you need brought in Al Horford. This man can shoot a three and defend the rim. He's souped up Lopez so you can start playing that way with Simmons. I say last year Steven A. Simmons and EMBIID are not complementary. They're not east like Simmons needs his own team the way the freak needs his own team in order to really optimize his value but that's just not the case so now you have. Horford when MB is not not on the floor they can play the way Milwaukee does if they want because Richardson by the way is an underrated shooter he's a career thirty seven percent shooter from three and he shoots four or five three's a game so they can play a version of the bucks without embiid but when NBC does in the game. It's not going to be the same kind of offense. A lot is going to be run through when beating embiid is saying is rather went. I'm in the game. Can I rely on you to put us over the top. Could we saw what Jimmy Butler did. In the playoffs last Hugh Stephen a you brought it up. They had a guy to go take Kawai on one end and then answer him on the other end. Hey Ben Simmons. Can you be that guy when we need you. Most or you're going to be in the dunker spot. Because you not even can't shoot you won't shoot you won't take that responsibility when he's talking about Jimmy Butler and their bonds and everything everything. It's not just a personal bond. It's what Jimmy Butler did for the team in time. Who's going to do that on this team because that's not Richardson. It's not worth for nice players. It's gotta be since you're wrong. You're wrong. You missed the boat on this one because it's not about on the court. It's about off the court the fact that the Matt is you bring up all of those things on court. You can work around that. If you're coach Brett Brown knows what he's doing. You can work around that. Yes you don't WANNA lose. Jimmy Butler who's got the heart of a lion and he can ball and the average eighteen in Natan fifty five games that he eighteen five and four actually in in fifty five games that he played for you plus obviously they were going to get him the ball in the fourth quarter which is up to the end where Brown agreed you too initially when he first got there wasn't like that but as the season progressed Brett Brown promised him it was gonna be about him in that fourth quarter so you're not wrong there but the reason why I say that you're wrong overall about your take is because we're talking about Joel embiid here. We're not talking about the sixers as a basketball team. We're talking about a personality enjoy and be there played around too much if you don't no no Jimmy Butler that well. We'll guess what I do and I'm telling you right now. He's a rough ride is the guy that called out. The coach is a guy that calls out an organization. He ain't shy about seeing a damn thing about what it feels and holding people accountable a matter of fact one of the Times he went off Chicago after Thomas was let go because he wasn't being called out enough by the damn okay so that's the that's the Jimmy Butler that we're talking about here. Now you just oppose that personality to a Joel embiid plays around how fun loving talk smack two cats and then when he gets on the court he gives it to them when healthy there's no question about Joel and beads game but in terms of what we both agree a to seeing him crying when he walked off court how badly that loss hurt and elevating the level of seriousness. I would contend you that Jimmy Butler being going puts more the pressure on Joel Embiid to step up and produce on the court which is something he doesn't mind so now we get to the locker room and inside that locker room. You've got a bunch of cats who are relatively. Sibley demure to some degree even not fake. They're good dude all of that stuff eight go rock Rod Jimmy Butler they need to do that will get Joel Joel embiid face and go like this. Look you off the hell you doing. Your Business get focused. We need your help you win and call them like that. Tobias Harris as good brother brother. He don't have that kind of personality business. Don't have that kind of personality Josh Richardson Position. To have that kind of personality Brett Brown as much as he might try there are still the people who believe he's challenged and he's got something to prove as a head coach you had all you have all of these guys associated with the sixers and the one Guy Al Horford the different atom. I don't know about the personality I nowadays. He'll get somebody's face but I'd like to believe he's respect highly respected. I'm just saying that personality that Jimmy Butler was off. The record is it's what pardon me you might be right in terms of his intention. Maybe Joel embiid in his mind is thinking like this is really what I mean. I need block of whatever put the effect is exactly still what I'm saying. If you look at that fight the starting five for the sixers they should be agreed great defensive team not a good defense team like an all time great defensive starting five Ben Simmons Josh Richardson Tobias Harris is the weak blink but at least sees a versatile defender even if he's not good at defending anyone position and not a good one Al Horford and Joel Embiid Ooh and by the way they can shoot it better than giving credit for what embiid is talking of doubt is all right. Josh Richardson's not the guy. That's GonNa take you to the promised land. He's not gonNA take over the Game Tobias Harris great catch and shoot but also not that Kinda guy neither is Horford. You just set it and bead needs a crime partner it it looks like I brought this up last year if you look at the trajectory of the Greek fricks career and compare it to Simmons it's strikingly similar not only as players but in terms of their production and then all of a sudden the frequent MVP and Simmons's flatlined because they didn't put the right kind of team around him. They've put a better better kind of complimentary parts around Simmons now and the effective. What embiid is saying is okay. Can you be that dude. We lost that dude. Can you be that do now. I don't think that's what he's saying and not only that let's also understand from basketball perspective. What is transpired. Jimmy Butler is a damn good score and obviously obviously a clutch play as well got a lot of hot. This is not a big discrepancy in terms of shooting prowess between him and Josh Richardson. We look at Tobias Harris some would say he and Jimmy Jimmy Butler couldn't necessarily coexist they expect to buys average be better with the absence of Jimmy Butler you got Horford he could spell for Joel Embiid Joel embiid games when and he's injured or even when he's there but he can't want him to play but so many minutes 'cause you want him to be healthy for when it really counts on the floor they haven't since they haven't been an out of the semi finals the last two years not to mention one of the greatest streets about offered as you well know. Ross this is ability despite up and shoot circular particularly from from the key bring the ball locked up to say but you and ask him to Ben Simmons. All I'm trying to say to you is that so in terms of the shooting and finding somebody else daily defensively and in terms of shooting prowess. They didn't lose much if to me. The only losses data not shooting. It's like Richardson. Tobias Biased Harris Somebody to talk about. I was GONNA go get their own. Jimmy Butler could play the point. Jimmy Butler get his own shot. Jimmy Butler cashew from the outside rose to the occasion and defend the Guy Jared Dudley moment in the nets. seventy sixers series remember when he got all up in his face. There was one guy who immediately came came to Joel embiid defense of course it was Jimmy Butler so I can and then throughout the playoffs the two of them would do post game press together and sitting with Jimmy Butler and with Joel Embiid they've both echo that's my guy and they both were used to taking a lot of flack from the media and I think they bombed it around that Jimmy Joel. Oh don't worry about what they're saying. Joel would listen and then Jimmy was closing and being clutch now to your point as we wrap this up like do you think it was in poor taste though as we head into to a new season for Joel to have this national interview and instead of him to use the moment to say hey it's going to be more on me Ben. He instead talked about how great Jimmy Butler asks. Ask the past well. He was asked a direct question about Butler so he answered it but to me. I'm with you on everything you said which is really reflecting what Stephen is talking about. They were besties. He helped him in the locker room anymore this kind of stuff but he didn't stop there. He talked about in crunch time in the play. He talked about the things that was doing on the floor. When it mattered most and to me that's the kind of tough love big brother thing the embiid's turning to Simmons and going you're going to be that yes or no not yes. Simmons could be that but is he turned into Simmons or is he turned into Brett Brown because those of us who cover the NBA always about Brett Brown and I keep how many times I've been on the show Max I brought a Brett Brown and you who who I genuinely like. He's a really really nice man. He's a good man okay and he went to a lot to get to this point where the sixers competitor so he deserves the opportunity community the BDO. I've never advocated for him being fired even when I thought he threw he blew three playoff games a couple of years ago okay but the bottom line is everywhere you turn in the NBA Ba for spiring coaches out there they all look at the Philly job because they all question whether or not he's the right man for the job. You think they did that without talking to players. Let me you tell you something. You got players. What Butler didn't on the floor in crunch time. That's not Brent Brown. There's only one man he could be talking about that Simmons.

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[014] Listen to Molly and Ralph drunkingly give their immediate reaction to the loss against the Panthers

Buccaneers Observer

40:41 min | 1 year ago

[014] Listen to Molly and Ralph drunkingly give their immediate reaction to the loss against the Panthers

"Welcome to the buccaneers podcast is Philips. And I'm only way. Drug. I'm not gonna lie. I could barely stand up. I think I'll get more draw when we lose. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't think I drink more. It's just the the emotions. I dunno sucks me. Molly is in a foul mood me. I'm not so bad because I'm not doing too bad in my fantasy football. I had Mike Evans. He got me to. Elites? I have it's magic that got me thirty five. Right. So why are you upset and I'm not in that bad of a move. So what do you think's going on? Well, it's obvious to defense sucks balls. Obviously not Jameis Winston guys. Will if we fire Jameis Winston, then everything will be better to understand how this works, obviously. Now, Mike Smith either. Well, no, no, we fired Mike Smith in defense defenses better. Right, molly. You just don't understand math. Well, you know, I think I think get rid of Mike Smith helped it really did our defenses not as soft the man. This defense is marshmallow. Well, like there are at least not confused bright. Yes. Yeah. We're not getting wide open receivers. That's really the only benefit I've seen with get rid of Mike Smith, but we got we got to start tackling, and I've talked about this. We're just not tackling. We're not sitting our feet up putting a shoulder into it. The only time I saw somebody tackle will Carleton Davis said his feet put his shoulder into it. And McCaffrey jump to every. So maybe that's not the answer. I don't know. But you were right. When you were saying that. What what happened saying that the I think the microphone messed up say the tough team versus a soft teams tough team every time. Yeah. That was a beatdown they bullied us. They took us in the backyard and beat the snot out of us. But again, it's not like they really did anything that spectacular. Cincinnati. They'd get the ball, and they would run over top of our guys, you know, those little yards. You know, the five six yards of plowing over our secondary makes all the difference in the game. We couldn't stop them. Now, not at all not at all. Obviously, they put it forty two points keys. S forty two. How many we get twenty eight? They didn't even have to settle for field goal. And all dang. I mean, forty two points and six touchdowns in six extra points. No, see. Well, you're sad. Because I didn't even pitch into the final score blacked out in the third quarter. Yeah. Man. Well, I've really expected fits magic to come in and lay some bombs. He didn't do it. I swear to God. We we were dinking Dulken just like they were but they were getting the yardage after the catch. They were running the ball over top of us. And that to me that was the difference in the game. Our defense could not stop them. Well, and they were getting a lot of pressure. I think on its magic he didn't have time to give it out accurately. Yeah. This is true. But I, you know, no, more than usual, actually, considering how much they blitzed and their front seven. I think are. Offensive line did good. I haven't seen the tape. So I'm just going good pickups fine to quiz ranchers, do think. So are you just noticed neck because I pointed it out and just supporting argue. Try to keep this marriage. Happy. You know? I saw a couple of plays where Donald Smith messed up, but a left tackle can do that. You know, you're expecting a couple of plays with them. But I didn't I didn't see anything stood out where I went man this offense of line sucks. 'cause Carolina's got a mean front seven. I mean, they're gonna come at you. There's no getting around that. And Keithly was all over the field as usual. He did great. Our guys just didn't step up. Now. Nobody did. And that's what J P P seven his post game interview. That is on the players at this point. It's not the coach's it's the players got a play. That was that was. Yeah, I agree with him on that give JP props there, man. Because I mean, I founded eight ten twelve fifteen miss tackles. And I wasn't even keep a track. That was what this one's that. Just caught. My there was a one on Samuel's. Crazy. Touchdown run four. Yeah. We're tackles. Yeah. Exactly. Four on play. Because vita was down there. Trying to tackling. Mine and there was another play where nece- NASA was down there. Tackling like at the ten yard line the runner picked up like forty yards by that point. Why aren't held the wineman running forty yards down the field to tackle somebody? How does that happen? How does that even happen? Where's it what he'll tat when you have a defensive lineman tackling from behind the yards down the field. Get out of here. There's something seriously wrong. I think it's just fundamentals. You know, there was an article and -puter report the fab five it was really good article. They broke a lot of stuff down and they talked about Mike Smith's defense. They had some inside scoop on what why Mike Smit's defense was working. And it was because he was just calling a plays that these young guys had practiced weeks ago, and they weren't prepared for for this game. In your first comment to me was are these guys stupid. Grew to a degree agree with you. Dumb it down a little bit forum. Right. And I could understand the stomach down if they're tackling, but they're not even doing that. And granted these are all new guys. Everybody back there. You're all second year. I mean, everybody behind David Levante David is for second year guy. Yeah. And so you got to take that into consideration. But tackling tackling. I think we if that's our problem. We're in for a world of hurt because that's something. You learn in junior high what's going on. Are we worried about injuries? These guys don't want to sacrifice themselves. They thinking about getting traded. Or are they thinking about? I mean is this team imploded? I have they given up if they'd given. I think that's I think this was really the game that decided that it looked to me in the press conferences like everybody that got up on that podium had just lost their job. Yeah. Ryan Fitzpatrick, look downtrodden and cutter looked like he was he's already got one foot out the door. Well, that's subjective. That's kind of expected. I think I don't think they can get up on the podium be happy in Chipper after. Loss thing is just gonna piss every be mad. They didn't look bad the way look, man. The more fall. Yeah. Like, they're in trouble with their principal. My goodness. Sad. Sad state of affairs. We got the best offense league. And I don't think we threw maybe two passes over thirty yards. You know, most of them were dinking dunk passes. They should have been Rowen bombs every play. Well, the first one that fits thrill got picked right? Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. Oh, gosh. Yeah. The Jameis Winston passed. It was the exact same play it. He threw it over Evans. The exact same way that Winston did it to the exact same not the exact same safety, but the exact same position. Yeah. Well, frankly, I think are playing a little conservative because they are worried about the turnovers, man. They should not have been worried about anything today. But just winning. Yeah. Have that drive to win and win is our defense gonna get some turnovers. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You needed turnovers today. We've got one interception on the year. That's gotta be a record one. Yeah. In none of our secondary is turning their heads around. They're covering guys. They're right on them. But they're not looking at the ball. We're never gonna get interception even jumping up with the receiver receiver jobs. They jump. Yeah. With. Have you? It's a coaching thing there for sure there's no way you've got seven guys back. They're doing all that by coincidence to J P peek into this game. I don't think so. Any socks? Now. We got one say to okay, I want to say new Seib. Didn't see it. Good. Yeah. He was playing every play and he made some mistakes he felt for some play actions. But they do so many tricky tricky, Dan. Yeah. Yeah. Mommy McCoy always does. He never every time. Yeah. Yeah. He's never sniffing out a trick play. Yeah. In Orlando backers to vaunted Dave it's always fell for that stuff, which they're very good at they're very good actor having Cam Newton mobile. He's an option. Yeah. They were in probably six plays that I've never seen before during this game. Yeah. And I've watched a lot of Panthers games. They mix stuff up so much riverboat Ron really embraced his heater gambler, man. He does some crazy stuff all the time works out for them. They execute it. Well, they do X cute and a lot of it's because it's on the ground and they fight for every inch. You know is they don't get hit fall down. When you hit them. You got a gang tackle, even little blue odd McCaffrey looks like a little angel atr. He was a spark. Oh from across feel really did. And he was running over top of our guys hit. Yeah. He had a good game against us. Yeah. Which sucks. Well. I'm gonna I'm gonna say I haven't looked at the film. But I said this in our previous thing than our linebackers had to step it up. They had to stop all of a sudden they had to stop McCaffrey. And both of them had good games. So I'm gonna say are lamb bankers. Thank join up again. Yeah. That's probably accurate. We'll see. We'll look dull Tony two. They had big explosive plays. But it wasn't receptions far down the field that was catching running. Yeah. They had the big runs. The tackling just horrible. You can't win football football is tackling and blocking maybe I should go in and do a sermon give it give a presentation to the buccaneers football as all about tackling a blocking is don't get blocked and tackle block people. Don't get tackled. You win games that. And that's that's an issue. I think that's an issue. We talk about leadership, and how leadership infects everybody that's following. That's kinda definition leadership. And right now, we have clipboard carrying nerds data people in positions leadership. Yeah. Yeah. Here Dirk all the time citing statistics like, oh, if you get an onside kick in the second half eighty percent of the time we're gonna win stuff like that. He's all the time in the press conferences, always. Yeah. He's a big stats guy. And he's he's he knows the explosive plays. How many got how many fumbles turnovers turnovers or what makes games all this stuff? Well, those stats are nice and everything clipboards and nice. And you gotta have nerd guys and everything, but you've also got to be able to catch the ball and run somebody over because this is football. And we don't have any coaches that teach that nobody we need an ex player in here. You know, I liked. Brian Brian price. Right. Yeah. Yeah. These guys they may be stupid dumb as rocks. I don't care, but they're out there talking about poetry face. Yeah. Ripta helmets off. That's what you want. You need a little bit of that. And we have none of it. Now. Like you said we're a soft team. His sorry soft. Yeah. We depend on our schemes winning the games. And granted we got great offense schemes, which I've got to look at a tape and see why we didn't get no big plays on often. Yeah. That was a little disappointing. Disappointing. I thought for sure it's magic was going to drop three or four bombs. He didn't get none. I wonder if that was part of the problem too. Is that we're not I mean, that's our forte. That's where we spend our. That's all we got. Yeah. So if you can't complete that what does that do to your confidence? Yeah. That's a good point. If you can't do what you're the best at a rain. Everybody else is gonna fit. Maybe we don't have that either. We don't have anybody step. I mean, if they'll think about it, and he got hope for his great receiver, and he fights he catches ball. He's gonna fight for that extra yardage is can you think of anybody else on defense or offense? I mean on defense. Can you think antibody where they're going to? You are not passing this point. I will take you down hard hit and stout stout. The we have anybody on defensive stout. Maybe J P P but not consistently. So I think he doesn't have anybody else helping him on the line. We've heard that before where before who've. That's gonna sting a little bit. Yeah. Well, I mean NASA has been step. I'd like message like him. I put down a little bit. I see him as a shifty and fast. I don't see him as stout and. Yeah, you know, that's that's one thing. I'm really excited about with the human. He's stout. Right. But. Right. Yeah. He's not contributing he's stout. But they'll do any good to these stout against a lineman. If you're not gonna tackle anybody where you out of Edo beat aware. Are you a saw him chasing somebody down today? He was one of the missed tackles recesses somebody down big Oga lumber and he dove for you just saw I'm like hit the ground. I saw vibrations on the. Whoever Jurassic Park with the Toronto source. Erection cover the Glenn. Yeah. That was the Beata bay. But he hit the ground. Did he missed a guy by like three yards when he tried to tackle him? But you know, he was drawing on defense when you think of all of our players on defense. Is there anybody where you go guys tough now? So that that's something that needs to change that culture right there on defense. I don't care who was somebody got a penalty on Cam Newton. When he slid devante bond. Devante bond. Got a what's it called a personal foul unnecessary on the serve roughness on Cam Newton when he slid. Now, I am I'm the type of person that my state of mind if I was a coach I'd be like you will never get in trouble for that. You know, we want these guys to be worried about getting hit. But in that instance, he didn't even hit Kim make us. It was the weirdest. It was like a a really soft. Bellyflop delayed came news got a penalty. He didn't hit him hard. It was a Joe bright. Our personal foul penalty is a guy laying on another guy. That's how soft our defense. I mean the penalty was a late hit. It was definitely late. It was not a hit. Right. It was a late lay. You gotta you gotta lay down ridiculous. Yeah. That's sad embarrassing for the state of the league if that's a fucking penalty that was a penalty. Yeah. Look, see. She's angry Joe Cussing and everything the four years you've only had four beer. Lightweight. She does way like eighty pounds. We'll give her that. Oh, and they called the speaking of personal fouls. They called one on Fitzpatrick on the guy hit and Fitz. Pack linemen helmet-to-helmet play him took him down. Fitzpatrick got hit quite a few times in that first half. Then they he got hit again helmet-to-helmet. They didn't call it. And then he got hit again helmet to helmet. They didn't call it. When he was running in said to penalties that we didn't get there. So inconsistent with that crap. I think penalties in general definitely talked about this last week. How bad they were very inconsistent. It's like the intentional. Grounding penalty worst kink today, though. So thank God are very specific rules for it. And I think drew Brees needs that criteria every times the game lease, and they never call it on him ever. I think they feel sorry for him because he's so small. He was trying to throw it look at the effort. He put in. It's like good. Boy, they do is. They only report alignment as eligible. So then when he's ready. There is an eligible he just throws it at the law. That's normally when he does how to hate him. I know they wanted they they beat the Rams that crap out of them. Yeah. That was a beatdown. I've got drew Brees of my fantasy gut. So don't get mad at me. That's why I got off at Twitter today. Stop talking. Well, just because I was like the only consolation for the day. We'll be Lena. I mean, a New Orleans getting the crap beat out a Mumbai the real is in the rain. So you're like oh God. Can you only head for years you should drink like eight mile, then the bus in the tequila you got the tequila mix? How come you didn't make? Spend writing for it. I like to beer. Well, what do you think about the fake punt that we did the obvious happy about it? It was it was a great call and the guy was wide open. It was just bad pass by anger and he's not a passer center. Peter you say he'd like laid it and upon his hand kind of pushed it. It was a horrible past. Like the play call now. I like that aggressive. I wish we'd do more than ever met Ron is known for being so tricky and then cutters kinda responding. But Carolina looked like they're ready for it to. Yeah. Yeah. They got a guy out there. But he was wide open. I mean, if you get a pass it would have been I did it like five yards short to like dental. Think it best off a couple of players. That was another thing was Fitzpatrick today. They kept baton his passes. Yep. Peppers head two or three. Yeah. He didn't have three Diddy. That's a lot. I know he had to it says orthopedic shoes hand down at the mercy for v. Now for people of uric ninety in football years. His his senior citizen beat RC. Yeah. Mon nursing home will beat your nurses to start doing. They have really good nursing homes in Florida. Oh. Yeah. They're called the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers Florida's senior citizen couldn't beat the Charlotte senior citizen that we know North Carolina retire there had the better people. That's horrible. Oh, man, another loss, and it was a bad game. It was not fun to watch. What was fun to wants to be on his was Carolina's often. That's blast. I know, but they were interesting to watch. And they're normally a boring team. And it was I'm talking about because I had to watch the game. If I had to point out. What was the most interesting aspect? I would say the Panthers offense. Yeah. It's nowhere near sports. Yeah. I think he made that game. Yep. Does run down all over top of us. And he's a little dude. I counted. I counted two runs. He had where we had at least three people miss tackling him. And he's a little dude mean, we did okay against mix a in the first half. But on the second half are similar size lies. I don't know. Well. We should've drove him in the ground. We need some tough players. We need tough mentality. Disappointed that with McCoy, vian back-end. He got a half a sack other than that. I didn't you nothing from anybody. It will nece-. I heard. Yeah. So who make some plays, right? He's only one I saw JP lose contain a couple of times, which gave them some big Ron's. We knew that was going to happen because they they're so tricky with their stuffy nose. You got all this play action stuff. They look at what he does to decide what they're going to do. And they're really that play action is so successful almost that are so smooth with very I mean, they trick me half the time the cameraman at your KOMO to pretty much of the time. They check me. So I can see how it happens you get everything going on the field. They sell it. Really? Well, very good at it. So what do you think's going to happen? What do you think going from here on out? What are we guess we have an easy schedule? We got some easy games coming up. We got another three whims innocent least just based on the teams were playing cutters named Fitzpatrick starter for next week already gets the right. Yeah. Which I think is the right decision. Get it out of the way to be fair. Clearly James was not the problem. He was a problem. But now the problem. Mike Smith did not solve all our problems, benching Jameson, not solve our problems. You know, it's like there's something else there. Yeah. In actually, both of those firing Mike Smith, and benching Jamie's didn't really help a whole lot that I'm really so maybe those what the problems at all. But I think he just ride fits to get that question out of there with you ride him until he's cruiser bad enough to put right James. To its credit? He did better than James did last week. I mean, he did have to turnover woman was that one interception which is him throwing a bomb, and it was short and didn't really it really count. It didn't hurt. Right. So I mean. Yeah. A he didn't cost us that game. I think that might be the distinction that wrote, you know, let's go let's say do you think we lost that game? They want it. Or was the refs? That's a tough one. I would say they want it. But I don't feel like we really tried to win it. Really? Yeah. Like, it's not like we had a ton of mistakes and penalties and all that they're releasing the cost us. We didn't have any drive to win. That's what I would say. They want it because they wanted it more. And they ran the fuck they ran over top of it. Right. So it makes you wonder about Kwan because that's kinda when we lost that I feel like when you went out we didn't have it. When when we had that issue that one half that game the first three eight he didn't do anything for the offense carried the team offense could put up the point where we couldn't do it today because their defense with punching. I'm saying the offense just doesn't have that we need to offense to have the I think so because the d been there all season, right? Yeah. We have we we just got to give up other defense. It's just not gonna work this year. The opponents all year, they've put up a record number of coins. Against does. Kinda we still in the record books. We had we did this every day at feels like teams round. Brings you know. They got a franchise record for thirty five points in the first half. Baltimore did that a few years ago? If Joe flacco had five touchdowns in the first half. Go win are we gonna stop doing this this? But they keep track of so many records in the NFL. Maybe it's. Yeah. For everything if regain there's going to soap is going to be broken. Right. So maybe it's on endemic of our team be terrible. It was a good point man thought about that. We should keep track of that. Yeah. Probably write it down like when we were kids. Yeah. When we went to other games that are not buccaneer related how many records are broken. Speaking of which we got one coming on here in a minute. Green Bay at New England is no New England green ban. This can be a shootout. Mainly because I have some fantasy players and so does my opponent his nemesis nemesis. So I'm excited about this game. I think I might take this one again this week be eight one. Yeah. There you go seven game we street, and you're like the LA Rams don't say that. I can't believe you'll last to the song. Atlanta one against washing where one game behind Atlanta. And then there was some discussion between Ralph and I whether we were a game in a half behind Atlanta because we lost a deficient opponent. I don't know the answer to that. I've had feared think about that. So we'll figure and math and stuff wait till an and announcer says it in the next game. And then I'll know for sure maybe Greg on tween. Yes. Greg do the best with the staff. So Atlanta beat the crap out of the Redskins. It was like thirty eight fourteen. Yeah. And the Redskins rescues got a pretty good defense. I looks like our division is getting fierce. But we're not. Yeah, we're regressing, and they're all progressing new. Yeah. Yeah. Second third. That's right. And that kind of the playoff change, which we were still in it. We are still you said you said that defense while I was getting ready to say I feel like we're not in it anymore. I mean, that's I build a clai we're the bottom of our division. And we're what three games behind New Orleans now. New Orleans is six or seven in one and we're three and five or three and five were five years behind. Oh, no, no three and seven is four four. Getting on pretty because I can't do math. Good thing you're pretty because that's how I like it. Marry you for your. Condition. Yes. Oh, man. I think man gosh. This is looking bad is look at that. But here's the thing. We're we say the defense got to step it up. They just got to get tough. Now. That's something all these guys know there. I mean these aren't hired softy and these guys have been playing football their whole lives. They're tough guys. They're just not coach to being tough. It's a culture there is not a not a tough culture. And so that's something that could change really really fast like between now and the. Yeah. So what do you do go in? There is smack Cup. Cousin face and tell him to step it up. Do you think that would cause any locker room friction? Oh, these guys want this. He's got these are these are warriors their soldiers. They wanna be tough. They don't want to be trailing. They don't wanna lose. They don't wanna get run over top of they want to knock people out. They want to win. So you just unleash. Mm right now. We've got a least we're we're we're we're restraining them with the schemes and the data and all that just let him play football to tell tell them tell them go out there and get some personal fouls. I want you tackling so hard you get personal fouls. You know, what I saw a headline. I forget who posted those it was actually a picture of a newspaper in Tampa. And it was a quote, I think it was the Tampa Tribune. It was a quote from Ryan Fitzpatrick that said he does his best basically when he isn't doing what the coaches are telling him kind of when a he's going off the script making his own plays. You you kinda go on your instincts. Right. Right. Yeah. And these guys they're instinct isn't didn't yarn. And we haven't had them in a long time. The last time I can think of it is when we had levonne Tae on Janas defense. Yeah. That was when we. We had a tough day. It was a land of defense are two thousand two thousand twelve thirteen. No two thousand twelve I would say that. That's what we had the the twelfth best run stopping defense in the league are secondary was getting history in history. Yeah. R s win Levada, Dave. And all that we had the tackles for loss stats, which was like thirty over the net the second place team. Yeah. The Lante David was killing it. Right. And that's what I'm saying Lante, David. So last time, then he really flourish. And then lovey came in and hit really do anything announcer spin it, and he hasn't really low Fonte is an instinct, I you like you listen to him talk. And he doesn't really come across. Like a rope. He's not a clipboard guy. That's a nice way to put in. Hey, we'd love you. He looks like a guy that just wants to hit other guy. And this what you want on defense. Exactly. And that's why he is so good. But they've got a leash on him. I was not calling him stupid. South. So all right. We got to do that who we got next week. I don't even want to think about it. I feel like the teams given up. I feel like you're don't please don't say the ideal. I think they knew no crap. Well, just like Jay how many years of we're gonna put up with teams Quinton on. I know. Well, why are they quitting to begin with? We're only halfway through the season in a crate. Now, you never know what could happen. That's like quitting at halftime. Right. If you know if the fan base could just bring them up I feel like they're always trying to bring the base up. Yeah. They're always trying to tell the fan base. It's okay. We're gonna we're gonna pull this out. We're going to start winning. I think it should be the other way around. We got to do this exactly when you have little confidence in our team. I mean, we've got one of the top offenses in the lead the top offense still think after today's the buck. I mean, we laid it up. We put up a twenty eight we can put up some points in spite of the defense. Yeah. And I think that they've lost sight of that. I think the quarterback controversy is a distraction. What was it me or Fitzpatrick? Just look like he was not fits magic. Yeah. They weren't. Yeah. Plenty fun. It wasn't. Yeah. Nobody seems like they're into it anymore. He's going through the motions. Yeah. Basically, that's how I they felt like that last week to I don't want to hear that with Winston. That's horrible. Now. I'm depressed now. See why you're depressed. Yeah. I do. I think they've given up. I don't think they should. But I think they have. It's just so much to overcome like you've got this suspension for Winston, right? That's the first thing. And then you've got injuries for Vida. He's our top draft pick. Right. Yeah. Right. And then we've got in the first couple of weeks. We have contacted now on injured reserve, then which is funny. Everybody talked about how horrible he wasn't as soon as he's gone are secondary. Just gets torched. Yeah. Cut. There's no special thing is I don't think so on on really liked to see Amazon buccaneer. I think he's done proud owners probably done, which is unfortunate. Cut no special. Yeah. He got a barest. Yeah. But it's not even that. And just no one ever appreciate numbers Kaga that like it. Now, you gotta figure out if the play is getting that deep in secondary levels have already Karuna on it. And he's trying to clean up on what everyone else is already let go. Yeah. He's a last line of defense. So it's not on him. Why don't you blame the two levels before him as we see? Now, exactly of blame to go around xactly. You know, so we've got Kante going out. And then Fitzpatrick it's just wasn't at the Pittsburgh game where he gets pulled halfway through. Yeah. Our Chicago, Pittsburgh. Right. So Winston comes back. And then you've got a, you know Fitzpatrick doesn't have. Great game. Now, it's a quarterback controversy, and that's kind of a distraction and then Fitzpatrick gets pulled. And then Winston gets back in the Sean Jackson Jackson stuff. Alexander getting hurt might Smith getting fired. You have all looked fell Jirama who wants to work like that. Yeah. So I think it's just a lot in the team. Is it wears on you that little stuff all the time? That added to the losing, right? Just makes it too big of a hill to climb. Yeah. And then to have the fan base on your bath. How bad you are. How's the coaches need to be fired? How the quarterback needs to be fire. It's just it's too much. I can't really blame them for being like, we'll screw it. Then man just not into win. He pressing. It is depressed lofty. Yeah. Make me want to drink more. All right. So our next game is though the giants. Oh, reds Redskins. Yeah. Yeah. Is it at the roads announced it's at Raymond James stadium. Okay. Tampa Bay fans all in Tampa Bay. And all y'all wanna go into Tampa Bay. Go to the game and cheer by all the tickets. Buy tickets can cheer scream for our guys booth there. Guys, don't make a lot of noise. Offense is on the field. Make a lot of noise when their offense is on the field making knowing noise do like this Ralph actually does that the game sweeping trying to get as many people as I can't just sit there and make the most annoying noisy. And let's support our guys. This is a winnable game. Definitely Atlanta just beat the crap out of him as like thirty eight to fourteen now. So let's not get too despondent. We're going to have more about this. I'm quite familiar with the Redskins. And I'll give you a good breakdown on what I think's going to happen with that game. As we said we're in Redskins country. Smelly. So action. Thinking about Redskins fans as they disappear when they're losing Deo lose a lot. Yes. So you only see them we've seen like twice in the past decade, right? They come out usually the first three weeks of the season. And then once they're Elwin three one in three one, and you just never see him again opposite this that the the only qualification to be a Redskins fan is you have to aid to Dallas Cowboys. That's it. You don't have to know anybody on the Redskins team. You don't even have to know their schedule win they're playing or nothing just hate the Dallas Cowboys in your automatically a Redskins fan. So if you anybody out there that hates Dallas Cowboys you're now a Redskin fan. So what cousins is their quarterback. Right. No now, corbu emits Alex Smith, corvette you see and they're going to pretty good defense. A lot of ex players Mesa foster. Swear engine swearing juror of a fan of deadwood. So swear engine. And we know about as much probably more as your average Redskins fan. So we'll get you some good analysis of that what we think's going to happen, and it'll be spot on. And it's going to be the buccaneers beaten them down. Because guess what our season's not over yet? There's a lot that can happen. It's just like an a half time. You saw how we came back almost tied Cincinnati or we did tie Cincinnati almost took it in over time. So we came back today almost made it a game. You know this. This is the second half of the season. Don't get despondent. It'll be like, Molly, I'll say. Also alcohol is a depressant. But listen, we got the Redskins got the giants. And then we got the forty Niners. We got three winnable games back to back cat so long as the team does not give it up. We fall into these wins. I think could you imagine the confidence we would get from three wins in a row, and then going back and have a Carolina come to our house and beating them, and then we have the saints the week after that and we've already beaten them. So we want to make a statement there. So we're looking at possibly five straight wins here, and we can do we can do it. And where their only loss the New Orleans Saints right now. Yeah, the Rams couldn't even be now. That's how good we are. We can't be we got it. We got we got a lot of the pieces not is going to be totally complete. I e just can't be good look at the Rams, their wine and crying. I'll bet you. If you go and look at Forbes and stuff because a bunch of Rams fans talking about who needs to be fired. And you know, where the Green Bay Packer is like have they had a run game ever known. Not that. I know. Right. And their defense is headed our miss every year. Like sometimes there are really good. And sometimes they're not like like who's even under defense. Now, they get the hall guys. Still there any no he's gone Klay. Matthew matthews. They're not the same people. Now. To say to me. Racist racist. But yeah, we could we can easily win next five games so easily the next three and on that momentum. We could take the next two because we got res the beat these people, right? So long as we don't get any more quarterback controversy drama. Jomar Jolla drama. I don't need it be mad and play mean football because that's all that's our weakness. That's all we gotta do is be tough football team. We could dominate anybody in this league. I agree without all right until then guys. This has been the buccaneers observer, this is Molly bay and Ralph Phillips if you want to get in touch with either one of us you can reach Molly bay at Molly bay at buccaneers observer dot com for her Email. If you want to reach me, you can Email me Ralph at Buchan ears observer dot com, you can reach us on our Twitter books underscore observer or you can visit our website at buccaneers observer dot com. See what content we have there until the end guys got backs?

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Hour 1: MNF Recap

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Hour 1: MNF Recap

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And I felt record third straight, four hundred yard passing game, but it wasn't without a cost growing three interceptions in the second quarter alone. No, keep in mind, Davis, Winston returns from suspension to day max. You know what the question is, should they keep him as the starter or go to James? Of course, you should keep Fitz Patrick as the starter. By the way, here's the real issue. James Saint that good. It's just what it is. He's a leader. He has a big arm. I get it, but like you look at Blake Bortles or Ishikagi, oh, Trubisky or Mitch Trubisky. These are all high first round picks. Obviously James very high who are athletic and let me into a, we ask him whether or not he should be the quarterback for next week or for the rest of the next week. Got it. For me or the rest of the the bottom line is the problem with these. Quarterbacks that I just mentioned. And I think it's always gonna problem. They just not accurate down the field. James that accurate down the field. That's the problem, like what we can sugar coat it. However, you want to do it. Stop calling him. Ben Rothlisberger. Ben Rothlisberger has always been able to put it where he wants it down the field. If you can't do that in the NFL, you will never never be a an elite quarterback. You have to be Canute to be even elites some years and Jameis Winston ain't no Cam Newton. Look Fitzpatrick yesterday through for over four hundred yards. Should've won the game except for that pick six, which was terrible. I'm not pretending Fitzpatrick is this incredible franchise quarterback. If that was the case, we denote it by now we know he's fearless. We know those pits, but those other interceptions weren't as a receiver slips because it's raining a guy dances off a guy's head that's not fits Patrick's full look, Janus Winstons numbers last year. We're pretty good. You know why? Because he had Mike Evans and the show Watson ano-. OJ how excuse me the show, Jackson and OJ Howard. And that's all he could. Do you give just a competent quarterback like Fitzpatrick who is streaky but basically competent those weapons. Any sets the world on fire don't mess with Fitzpatrick mainly because if you think James Winston is a franchise quarterback, you're wrong. First of all, I think you're wrong. And here's the reason why this Patrick's history more so than anything else let speak very, very clear about something Fitzpatrick is no scrub Fitzpatrick in play. I think Fitzpatrick is better than average in terms of the town that the quarterback position. I think there are multitude of situations where you can point to in his career where putrid performances weren't necessarily his fault because you had things happening mitigating circumstances that may have influenced him statistically. But the reality is, is that his career record is fifty and seventy. One is a starter. When you look at the various places that he's been a quarterback in the National Football League, just go down the list in buffalo for four years, twenty and thirty. One as a starter in Cincinnati for fourteen gets his four, seven, thirteen years. Four, seven in one twenty four, seven and one is a starting with the New York Jets. Thirteen and fourteen Starwood Saint Louis certainly wasn't as fault there, but, oh three is a starter Tampa. He's got a winning record Houston. He had a five hundred record. Some of those losses worn this woman. But in the end, when we look at a quarterback in the National Football League, every situation is not going to be ideal. It comes down to what can you do to make up for the deficiencies of the mistakes of others around you? That's not right. It's practice. So when I look, let me let me I'm getting there. Get to my point. The point that I'm trying to make to you is that at the end of the day, James Winston is twenty four years of age. He's growing. He's improved proved completion, percentage wise over the last few years. Let's not also negate the fact that again, he knows the system he is healthy. It's not like he's heard or anything like that. He suspended and it was over something that happened a couple of years ago in the end. When you look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I am in no way saying that you've been trying. Patrick. Now what I'm saying is my mentality for the first two games or saying, if Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like that James Winston is your future, but you keep Ryan Fitzpatrick in there for the rest of the season. But what I saw in that second quarter last night which to me, it's typical to some degree route Ryan Fitzpatrick. I am of the mentality. You take it now on a game by game basis. He shows up next week. I started next week. He shows up next week and he plays like that. Again, I'm putting James. It was the bucks record some sorry sector. What was the bucks record last year? Five and eleven. What's the difference with the team this year? Same weapons out there. He won five games all season. Fitzpatrick could easily be three and all right now, here's the thing. I think there's two different questions and I like the fact that you brought it up Stephen, they, are we talking about this week versus the bears on a short week or are we talking about the rest of the season? And when you look at this week despite the second quarter of last night's game, I think the second quarter of last night game last night's game is the reason why I start. Ryan Fitzpatrick. There was no panic in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. There was no panic in Ryan Fitzpatrick. He brought them back in the second half and it's not Ryan Fitzpatrick even with the three turnovers, it's not his fault. They lost a game. The defense couldn't stop it. Nose bleed. Godwin drops to balls in the end zone. He fumbles the ball on a already burns his. There were plays that Ryan Fitzpatrick made throughout the night. Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't help him out. You have short week Jamie's Wisden even though he's been training with George Whitfield. He hasn't had that in helmet perspective. If Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn't playing ball, of course, you bring Jameis Winston back, but did you listen to cut her last night listening to cut after the game? Let me know. All that needed to know if Aaron Rodgers is out and you ask Mike McCarthy on a week, he's coming back. How do you feel about every Rogers coming back? Dudes going to be happy, right? He's going to talk about all the things that ever Rogers can bring to the team. They're going to say, air arrives is the franchise. If. Rothlisburger is out. You do the same thing, Tom Brady he would have the same reception. But Bill Bill is coach and we know how that goes. You know what he said when they say Jameis Winston was coming back. We're excited because James Winston is a member of our team, not the leader guy, not our dude. He's a member of our team and so was mandated to use where I think of James. But one thing that he does seem to have at least on the field as he does seem to be a leader. He seems to have the aura of a franchise quarterback. My issue is I don't see the accuracy down the field that's an SMS. That's been the difference with this team the first three weeks as opposed to last year coming into the season with OJ Howard show in Jackson, Mike Evans, we thought we would see downfield passing attack, and we thought that because James Wednesday to us was a fraud to me was a franchise door back at that time. He didn't show the accuracy downfield. He didn't show the big playability that we thought that he'd have no. In the preseason. He played will. And I think eventually in this season we will see James Winston and I believe he can be productive, but you don't take Ryan Fitzpatrick out right now. You don't put him on the bench for Jameis Winston in two, it's a necessity. And as long as he's playing the way he's playing through over four hundred yards last night, Ryan Fitzpatrick is the starting quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers you're saying what you're saying because of on field stuff or or field stuff. Because when I heard cutter, what comes to my mind is James Winston having some growing up to do and not putting the organization in situations where we have a franchise quarterback, the face of our franchise, supposedly a leader that we cannot rely upon. I don't hear dirt cut a saying, you know what? Ryan Fitzpatrick Patrick is better than James wisdom. Here's what James Winston is the guy that needs to take a step back because we looking at this guy and we think he's better. I think that there is an ASO. Matter of fact. I've spoken few people that say to me, there's a dissipated level of. Of trust. So I'm asking you as a person. I'm not really sure right. I believe it was two thousand twelve. Joe campaign rothlisburger get suspended, Charlie batches, the starting quarterback with three and one in the time they've been rothlisburger is out. There was no doubt in my mind. Anybody else's mind in that locker room coach Tomlin's mind when Ben Rothlisberger was ready to come back. We hadn't seen him in four weeks. We knew on Monday when we went to the meeting that Ben Rothlisberger was the starting quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and it didn't matter what he did off the field. He was the starting quarterback what he'd done on the exactly because of what he had done on the field. He was ready a Super Bowl champion. What I'm trying to say. The UN this particular is you don't have it in either Ryan Fitzpatrick or James Winston. So it's like I get what you're coming from. I just don't think it's an accurate analogy. I don't think that's accurate affair now because Ben Rothlisberger had championship and potential hall of fame credentials. So obviously, Charlie batch doesn't mentally up to that. We re sitting. In James. Winston doesn't have any credentials that matches up to it's badger. No. What we're saying is that because of what been had done on the field because you mentioned the off the field problems, right? The off the field problems didn't matter as pertaining to him getting his job that got fits and James, whoever it is has to deal with Khalil Mack on Sunday on a short week, no way. Now the Steelers, meanwhile had one hundred and fifty. Five penalty are most of the game since twenty ten, but the defense did look better forcing four turnovers including three first-half interceptions a Stephen a. Is there a reason for optimism with your Steelers? Nothing. First of all, on too many cases keep in mind that they won the game thirty to twenty seven. They will up toady ten at half that means they did score in the second half. That's number one. You gotta juju Smith Schuster ball and you gotta Antonio Brown best receiver in the game. Okay. You got James Caan and credit to him because he don't want you talking about his story as it pertains to cancer and all of this other stuff that obstacles that he's overcome. These. He's like, I'm on a football field, right? He's all. But he said he does what he just. Judge by the player instead of everybody throwing the sympathy or the sentimental card in this direction. I appreciate that I understand where he's coming from all of trying to say to us this despite the absence of two of your offense of Lamin, you got a decent run a game. You got an elite passing game led by future hall of fame quarterback. You don't score in the second half. That's number one. Number two, they made some big Tom plays in the second quarter. I get that. But I looked at this team and I'm just sitting there with my head in my hands the entire second half because I'm watching tamper move the ball repeatedly tom-tom Tom again, and this Steelers defense. And I tweeted this last night. You just get the impression watching the Steelers defense every damn quarterback is Tom Brady, you know how you feel why going to get Tom Brady and somehow some way, no matter what goes right for them. You know, here he comes marching methodically down the field picking you upon. I felt this after this way, Patrick Mahomes want of all felt this way rob, Bradford going to football. All I just looked at them and I said, damn it. They can't stop. They just can't stop. They're hoping against hope. Don't give up the big play, and let's let them with honestly matriculate themselves down the field, and we'll figure out a way for them to make a mistake. We hope. And that's what I saw from the Steelers particular leaders, secondary, which looks like a bunch of small people. I don't think the other word, the n. word is appropriate here. I don't know that the little people, they all look like little people, the whole damn secondary. You might go up and get a big deal. And that's what I saw when I watched by a line of saying, I saw Tampa in there too tight end set why? Because it kept Williams of Boston on the field, which is what Jason whip pointed out on Monday night football jointly. I I, that I'm just looking at it from the perspective. There is nothing about the Steelers defense that gives me a reason, enter the Lenny's. They can stop anybody ever Maxine Nance, McDonald's stiff arm touchdown. Yeah. The most obvious thing. Dan, have. Tom, if film ruled all week long, that's all yielding. No, no, you're right. You're saying you're not Ryan's wizard. Chases McDonald. It was so. Disrespect, look everything you've just said about the Steelers is why didn't like to make the playoffs this year that end I thought Rothlisberger was in steady decline. You know, I talk about cliff. That means like you cruising, but Rothlisberger just looks like getting worse and worse and worse. Look, good yesterday I can ally, but I thought Ross Rutledge burger made plays that said up. That's been Rothlisberger. The defense? Yeah, whatever we knew that coming in. That's why I didn't like them to even make the playoffs. I thought in the ravens, it'd be good. I thought the Bengals it'd be better. The AFC is weak. There is reason for optimism for the Steelers that by the way, the NFC is not as tough as we thought after the way the Vikings looked after the eagles have been looking. We expect the eagles to get better. I would expect the Vikings to get better, but so far, but the AFC who's really your quaking in your boots. Okay, the chiefs, the offense is ridiculous. Where's the defensive? That chiefs of a Swiss cheese defense who you? I like the chargers still. I think I think we both gets back. The chargers are going to be good, but right now, or the chargers worldbeaters who the patriots don't look very good so far, the AFC is weak. The Steelers just won a game. They might have lost right? They they got tired of game. They might have lost gotten maybe a little bit lucky early to wind up one one. In one, it's still a position to make a run. I don't love this team the way you did or the way many did coming into the season, but is there reason for optimism frostless burner can still do it. AFC as we love how you always remind me of what I say, but you never remind the world of why I said it. When I talk about the AFC I repeatedly talked about how weak the AFC was. I talked about how New England I thought we'd take a step back. I talked about her elite elite Ken sins offense was, but their defense was suspect. And I said that Jacksonville, there's no way and how you're going to get me to believe in Blake Bortles. That's why I believe so much of the Steelers. I didn't sit here and say. Because they're the second coming into New England. I say, because I don't like the fact that did defense can't seem to stop in it. Dan by, I actually now you we're high, wasn't I wear mill, you're still not the is former Steeler. Ever Steeler. Here's the thing last night gives me no optimism, right? But the AFC makes me feel a little happy. Yeah, you know. And it depends see Stephen as a fan, right? So when you're a fan really look, who's talking, excuse me, look who talking go ahead. You what to rescue my back. I'm sorry. Oh. Nebraska. Right? Fain just watch it and understands you. He knows Novi anything any sitting there in his in his Steeler sweatshirt, right? He got the steel of hoodie on right because you know, had you know four years ago he might not have put the hood on, but the hair last still coming back a little bit as we near fifty. I called Dion about. Here, here's, here's the thing. If you watch it in Ben can still play right this offense can still move the ball. You saw them milk the clock late in the game with James. Connor the defense does make me nervous, but which offense in the AFC gets you scared the Kansas City Chiefs do. But you watch the second half Kansas City Chiefs in the first quarter of twenty one on the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they fight back and getting the gate. I believe that this team can score with anybody. You're missing Gilbert, you're missing decastro last night, but you continue to fight Boswell really puts you in vacillation because he's missing field goals. And this is usually a very dependable, Phil cook kicker. It's too early to write the Pittsburgh Steelers off. What happens to people like me who are fans, I'll admit, I am a fan. Thank you. We're used to watching the Pittsburgh Steelers player certain way, right? You used to blitzburgh you're used to physicality on defense. That's not this team anymore. There are. They are. Trying to learn to been in not break, keep people out of the end zone when they get into red zone. Sich classic modern offense that works out. Absolutely. So we saw them find ways to score points. And in the same way, we're talking about getting lucky against the Cleveland bows. They should've beat them, right. We talked about the Kansas City Chiefs. They were hot air. As you thought you after this is not just like view line on the other side of Antonio Brown, there's a guy with somebody's that dude is as dorms. See, he's at rob, we'll say this, I appreciate the value Russia's ear. These don't give me wrong, but I'm tired of here folks whether it's the Steelers or announces or fishing shook about lost him. It's hard to replace. You had a year figured out. Here's the figuring out so they something if you think about the Steelers defense, this is how it went, right? You had James Ferrier and Larry Foote. Larry food was the guy that ran around ferry was that dumper. They got Lawrence Timmons. Lawrence Timmons became the guy that ran around and foot was that dumper. Everything always moved. When you look at Boston convince Williams, they're the same guy, and that's not the way the Steelers have been put together. So though there's an emotional good points. It's taxing point because you watch Ryan. She's get hurt, replacing him in what he was able to do. Do is very, very valid painting. It's Har what scares me about it? What bothers me about it? Mike Tomlin who we all revere not own in our respects. We think he's a great coach Bill, Bella check, but damn these up there. My problem is you come from a defensive background, you know this, you know exactly what Ryan Clark just said. Why is that the case? Why is that. Because the resource or devoted. The offense had rice as Xeres straight, not like, oh, we need to talk. James said about the that built. I got, we're at a time fellas. They got another primetime game on Sunday, Baltimore division games. You know, that's always a dog very worried about that game, very Julio. Oh, that's not good for you. Just take a breath. If you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes and e cigs. They just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected, but jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette. It's vapor product that actually satisfies plus jewelers simple to use and there's no cigarette ash? No lingering odor as a smoker. You expect a certain nicotine experience, right jewel delivers give jewelry. Try check o. j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports switch and be satisfied. Yes, you can do both warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Top four. Ricky QB's have all seen action the season. And now that Baker Mayfield Sam darnold, Josh Allen, and Josh Rosen of older named the starter. The pressure is mounting as defenses, get more tape on them. Now, here's each of their next tests. This upcoming week. Baker Mayfield will take on the winless raiders in his first start, Josh Allen in buffalo coming up a huge upset of the vikes get the Packers this week, Sam darnold jets are one and two and get that Jags defense in Josh Rosen will face the sea hawks in his first career start Ryan quick still with us. Max my starting with you on this one. Sure. Okay. Which rookie quarterback is under the most pressure this week. It's actually Sam darnold. It's actually the guy playing the toughest defense. You might think, well, all those other guys realistically can maybe be expected to win their games, not Sam darnold, but Baker Mayfield just got a win for the first time in seventeen years, and people didn't even know this. The Browns had been one and seventeen years. I mean, he got a come from behind win and Sam darnold through the interception that salted away the win four Cleveland guys. Before you even get to that, you understand the markets that Sam darnold is playing in. So Paul McCartney was dishing about the Beatles. Let's call it personal lives a couple of weeks ago. You know what? The headline in the New York Post was beat the meals. That's what Sam darnold is up against beat the meals. The New York Post and daily news headline writers. These other guys don't have to deal with that. There is the pressure of the New York market which is just different. I know it's not as football obsessed because there's more to do and town. Mike Cleveland, we're staring at your buffalo, it's all bills mafia, and they're staring at you, but New York, the amount of media is ridiculous. This guy is twenty one years old. He just do an I n t to lose the Baker Mayfield and now he faces the Jaguars defeats the best defense this little mini generation of football. I'm not saying he's gotta win. I'm saying, don't those three four picks don't like he is under pressure. And remember when I said, start teddy Bridgewater because if you start a twenty one year old rookie week one, there's nowhere to go. Well, guess what. There's nowhere to go. He is under the most pressure right now. I don't feel that way. I feel like it's Baker Mayfield and it's not like it's gonna make a difference. He's just starting quarterback. He's the number one overall pick he's the franchise. I'm not trying to take this to that ultra level, but I'm talking about for the purposes of week for the reason why he's the one of the most pressure. This is because of level competition. He's going up all them, Dan problems and Oakland. All this euphoria that we've been rotting about Baker Mayfield and how good he looked at whatever you want to see that bad boy come tumbling down. Excuse me, go out there and play like garbage against John gruden's, Oakland Khalil Mack lists, full Clinton raiders and watch what people are saying about. You got, Josh Rosen going up against Seattle. Okay. We've got a Sam Donald going up against Jacksonville. When we look at it from that perspective, you've got tough competition. When you look at the rate is there's so many damn question marks right there. And there's so many people pointing at what they have, and there's so many people pointing at. How they have looked without the services of Khalil Mack to the point where Jon Gruden the man who didn't him away, still finds it with the fines up the gumption, a nerve. The goal I might add to show up and post game conferences talking about. We don't have a password women think. I have a pass, but what do you think you don't have a pass rush? I couldn't it be the guy you let go. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about. So it's not like it's the end of the world no matter what. But when we're comparing the young quarterbacks where this Josh Allen, whether is Josh Rosen, what did Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield when we're looking at them, it's about the level of competition that they're going up against this week. The kind of things that have been said about them. If you look at the u. fork atmosphere that bak- may feel created to go against Oakland and suddenly wet the bed. That would not be good. Here's the thing because Baker Mayfield has created this. You for your in Cleveland. He's good. The rest of the year. You got a little equity. He'd gotten a little Egli. He has deposited things into the emotional Bank account of the state of Ohio. He's from one game because you haven't won a game to six hundred thirty five years, eight years in years. And so you got everybody free Bud Light like your good forever. It's Sam, don't ever for at least this year. Okay. Go ahead either. You're going to be the thirtieth guy on shirt that has all the quarterbacks, and you'll be the thirty four while because unless you get hurt, Baker, mayfield's the quarterback, and I think he's the best one of the group. I said that when the draft was here, Sam darnold is under the most pressure. And here's why he's under more person other guys because when you try Sam Donut out on day one, you let the world know he's ready. He's arrived. This is our guy. This guy can win games. Our team can be great with Sam darnold at quarterback because Baker Mayfield sits behind tyrod Taylor. You're saying, oh, no, you know what? We had to wait on going up the Jag against bags. And that's the raiders defense hasn't done, but people like they're not gonna do merging as you don't look at it that way because Sam Donald, you look at week one, how does he start the game against the Detroit Lions with an interception, the reason you lose against the Cleveland Browns because you get them to more possessions because you threw two interceptions. He has a deal coming out of come through Sam darnold Sarah, the starting turn over issues. Baker Mayfield. Is has has bought himself the time to develop. When you come in as Josh Allen, you're only quarterback and we feel like you needed to be developed, but you're only there because Nathan Peterman couldn't hold the job, Josh Rosen years there because Sam Bradford is doing Sam. Bradford type things. Sam darnold won the job. He won the job. It wasn't given to them. It wasn't passed down to him because another guy didn't play. Nobody got a concussion that implement puts you in the game in the second quarter. You went out and they said you were the best person to take this team to win this year, and you weren't playing like it. You're under the most scrutiny. This team falls to one and three and Sam Donald doesn't play well against the Jags. The type of scrutiny he will be under would be unlike any of the scrutiny that the other three quarterbacks are under Sam Donal hasta win this week, and he has to play well of the full throttle of the New York media. It will be on top of dog uments I just don't agree with you. The reason I don't agree with you is because I don't think they're Baker Mayfield. Except for the year. Let them go out of stink up the joint for a few weeks in Cleveland. And let's see how folks then because when you're when you're a custom, dare I say addicted to misery right goes the ineptitude is just so alarming to the point where John's or the Brown in nugget Welk is bad as the jets have been the Cleveland Browns on another level. The fact is it could be so numbing, you forget, and then all of a sudden you become euphoric one night and somebody brings you back down to that a bit. It's just a matter of nobody. Nobody expects the fake remain to be that way. Again, it's not about every week. I specifically set Oakland. Keep that in my said this week. That's number one. Number two, he is where you don't have you even you what your football experience. You don't even have an argument here. This is from the wheezy ain't you ain't from New York. You don't know what it's like to be associated with the jets. And then after two years to the point when you are numb and then all of a sudden they tease you get to an AFC championship gave us a minute. Also they plummet again, that's. Nothing feeling. You don't know that. You know, all right, everybody settled down right now. We gotta keep paying more. And one of the biggest story lines from week really NFL season is the amount of roughing the passer penalties that were called last night, but war we're called, which is tied for the most in a single game since two thousand one, Steven is the NFL solely responsible for this controversy. They ought to blame twice. Sure. The players association has a lot to do with this stuff. When you I when I read, for example about the stipulations involving levian bell, for example, which has nothing to do with this discussion per se, but it highlights and really aluminum way the problem here you are Levy on Bill. You have to return this year just to be eligible for free agency in twenty nine thousand nine. Otherwise the Steelers would be allowed to franchise tag you get so you can miss some games and it could cost you money, but just still gotta return in order to be eligible for free agency, that kind of stuff that goes on with the National Football League. It's incredibly a law, which is why you would want to hold out the only hold out for the last collective bargaining agreement, which was ten years given league court certainty for decade which no league professional sports is ever done. Of course, thirteen. Don't even get me started with that Molly point and bringing that up max is simply this the NFL on a different note with this issue there. Respond and react in concussion issues safety issues and what have you. They've gone overboard. No question about it. They've been allowed to because everything that they practically everything that they've done at least at some point on other pets left you to question. What the hell are they doing? Why is this necessary? Why do you have to go to this extreme to make sure that this stuff is hold off but they do it. No, you got this one all wrong. This has nothing to do with concussions or player safety or anything to do with Aaron Rodgers. Collarbone the look, the NFL is a business and let businesses are not moral or immoral mo- they work in the community everyone. So it's not about that businesses make money. That's why businesses need oversight, right? Because they are a short. It's like blaming a shark for eating something businesses exist to make money. It is their nature. They are a moral. They were without morality, so it's not that I'm critical of the NFL here. The. NFL's trying to make money. And you know what happens when Aaron Rodgers has his collarbone because he's driven into the ground, they lose money, protest the money. But this rule is ridiculous. I'm all for players safety. I've been on this since the preseason. You can't land on the quarterback of mount about concussions. I understand not driving a guy into the ground giving them that little extra, but you can't land on them, ask William Hayes with sense. But what that's like, he got a tortoise shell. This is not about player safety. This is about protecting the star of the show, protecting the offense. 'cause offense makes money. That's it. This is not about the players union saying, hey, CT or anything. The NFL is protecting the quarterback. Richard Sherman is right out of proportion. This is an absurd rule is winning the experience of the game. I don't recall disagree with that. What I said is that it's all about money. It all comes down to you think that the NFL is completed is concerned about safety. They're concerned about the lawsuits that come in their direction all. I was trying to make the common denominator is be concerned about the money in this particular instance protect the quarterback because as you pointed out earlier, everybody wants to come and see the according to what I don't want to come and see this. This is not. This is not great. I want to ask Ryan 'cause you played the game and I just saw Jerry Jones said, no rule has changed the game more than this one. Well, the crazy part is the rule is no different. This isn't a news Lou horsing it. This is a new point of emphasis, and it's a point of emphasis because of Aaron Rodgers because when Aaron Rodgers doesn't play and you have the right watch Brett Hundley for the remainder of the year, football is different. Football is hurt. Nobody wants to see it and this is about money. This is about business, and this is intentional and on weekend game and NFL the NFL's not to blame. We're to blame because we don't want to watch it. We don't want to talk about it. The difference in the way that we talk about the Green Bay Packers or the amount we talk about the Green Bay Packers when Britain. Lease the quarterback as compared to an Aaron Rodgers. The quarterback is astronomical. It's about money and the difference between amount of people that Brett Hundley can putting the seats as appeared to the mount of people that Aaron Rodgers can put him to seat is astronomical. Do you know why you can't hit quarterbacks low anymore? Because Tom Brady, you know why you can't land on quarterbacks anymore because of Aaron Rodgers and narrow you can land on them the okay saying you came around, but these guys are just tackling them and let it guy don't. The rule is stupid, right? The way that they officiate the rule is stupid as Klay. Matthew says, he says, I understand the spirit of the room. The spirit of the rule is what matters when Nate changed rules on me and James Harrison that was health in player safety when they said, hey, defenses. Receivers can't be hit in shoulders, neck area. That was player say, this is going to raise their bottom line. The people aren't gonna win people. Are still going to watch it. They don't complain about it and they go to eat you MAC, so you could talk about it and they're going to juice even Acer. You can talk about it, but it doesn't matter those areas. We're were talking about where these nonsense Kona king remember that I remember that movie would Air Force One Harrison. Harrison Barnes was telling somebody the vice president dish. She was like negotiate negotiate terrorists. He said, Harrison Ford, that's right now. Well, Harrison, Ford, I, you. Renascent leaving. I gave sin. All right. That's all. He said, you give them mouse a cookie. They don't want some milk. Here's what I'm trying to say in two thousand eight, Tom Brady goes down. Okay, Matt Cassel comes in. There was a reason to complain. Then modifications were made them as well. It got louder and louder. Let's not act like all these complaints about concussions and things of that nature don't impact every decision that they make because what happens in our society is when you find one thing to complain about and you're able to get away with complaining about that, then all of a sudden everybody starts squealing about one hundred abundance of other things. And all of a sudden, the momentum's shifts to a point where you see them going the extra mile to make even more modifications. I am simply saying to you just all falls in line with one another is not just about Amer Rogers. That's the latest. If you go back to Tom Brady, he could go back to a lot of different things. This is what the NFL does, and when they hear a bunch of people making noise about something complaining about it, they feel the need to address it to switch concerns and the war of momentum coming in there. Wretched about them not doing. Thing dollar business understand, like you said, he's about Tom Brady, Bill. Young Bill is make money, and this is about keeping the money on the fear here. What the NFL parent? Yes, you got him on Saturday. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to gyco. I should've done this years ago disclaimer crumpling Buchan time is physically impossible unless you know how to build a functioning time machine. 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I just can't give you a whole spill. I don't even know where he that. Also putting a New Jersey rockets Carmelo Anthony time. All started talking about is a termination to do whatever's asked him, didn't shoot down the possibility of coming off the bench for the first time in his career goals to go into training camp, be the best would be the best player could be being the best shave out can be and do what I have to do to help this team get over the hump and won the championship, and that's, that's, that's all it is. And all the questions of coming off the bench and like I don't even want to. I don't want to answer those questions at the end of the day, whatever whatever I have to do to help this team when the championship, then that's what's going to be done. And I think that's the same for everybody else that's on this team. Now back to, I takes mellow down for the cause the chip that is so we know he's not willing to come off the bench and. Okay, see, but now he says, he's open to the idea with the rockets, but Stephen, do you actually believe him? I don't believe I don't believe in for several reasons. Number one, the biggest reason who was a guest on this show through weeks ago week one that was a while we know her as the wonderful actress Lakisha on on my one of my favorite shows power on the stars network, but she's also known as LA LA, Anthony, the wife of Carmelo, Anthony. I mean, if anybody would know it would be har- and if y'all remember what she said unsolicited, I might add, did I ask her max about mellow coming on? No, she sat up the. She said she charmed and on hold. He no need to be coming off. No bigger. She's not. Well, what she says matters, let me just leave. It at that which she says matters. That's number one. Number two. You lost. Trevor reason got fifteen million from Phoenix. You lost Luke Emba mood sake. Thank the good Lord because I mean, listen, you missed it defensively, but offense he will not be missed. Okay. Tariq black. Michael Cada we're you money. The head of mellow, you got c. p. three, you got James Hardie, you got clean cappella, PJ Tucker because you need them in that line of because he's underrated gambler. That's. Play excellent player. He's underrated and OPA the way we'll have a job in this business someday in the future. Let me tell you something right now. I've interviewed have a couple of times this brothers made to be a television analyst, Mark my word. So what are you going to do? You got click Capello on your front line with PJ Tucker. So having a guy like mellow to take to to pick up some of the offensive low is something that's going to be a plus and last, but not least the chemistry that he has. No matter how tight we always talk about the banana boat crew in d. Wade and LeBron with Chris Paul in and you'll let me tell you something. Mellow and seeping three are incredibly tight. If anybody could get mellow to come off the bench, it would be him. The problem is Erik Gordon who did start thirty games last year and actually put up big at lucky numbers when he started, but was exceptional off the bench. Giving you eighteen points a game was runner up at six man of the year to Lou Williams. The bottom line is Erik Gordon can play and more importantly coming off the bench doesn't compromise him in any way in terms of what he brings to you. It might compromise mellow and as a result, that's why you also put mellow that starting lineup, I totally disagree. First of all, it's not about who starts, what are they always say. It's about who finishes off the bench and still finish games. Right. The question is, do you believe that he'd be all right, my answer is heavily mellow believes yes, my answer is yes, because I think Carmelo Anthony. Sometimes you could tell the way a guys delivering the words whether he's internalized the message or nine. Carmelo Anthony wants to win a championship. He realizes that LeBron's won championships that wing Wade's won championships. I'm sure he views himself as that caliber player and you doesn't have any in it's being held against him. Now if you look at the way, the rockets are constructed, Chris, Paul, and James harden play a lot of minutes together. But the great idea there is you never have to be without an elite point guard on the floor meeting Carmelo Anthony. If he didn't say, yes, I want to come off the bench. She said, I want to be used in the best way that helps the team and everyone should be thinking that on this team and he's right Carmelo Anthony. And the second unit is the focal point of the offense. If he's on the floor with James harden and Chris, Paul, maybe really don't get as much out of Carmelo's. You might otherwise get. I love the idea as Carmelo as the of Carmelo as the focal point of a second unit offense. I love the idea of Carmelo finishing games. There's going to be plenty. Overlap where he plays with harden and Chris, Paul and both. He does not need to start. And the real question is, does he believe the words he is saying the way he delivered that? I think the answer is, yes, you're making a basketball argument. I'm making a camello argument and he could be telling the truth of no Carmelo for fifteen years. I don't believe him period. I don't believe that he feels that way. I believe they're camello. Anthony is going to say the right things. I think they're Carmelo, Anthony classy. Do don't wanna 'cause they drama if ever there was a name that was applicable to an individual perfectly. It's Carmelo mellow. That's who he is no drama. He don't want any noise. He don't want all that stuff, but he wanted to start and I'm telling you something right now because he does. He hasn't been on a team like this. I feel like that remote. You could say that, but okay, see was supposed to be that with him. Paul, George and Russell Westbrook last year was supposed to be doing that this man, it was supposed to be that and I'm telling you right now. Carmelo. Anthony does not come to do that believes it's twenty in the league better to him. Why did you know he believed doing this to that Dan right now, who what do you see him sitting up there? He's not saying, yeah, I'm dying to come off the bench. I'm sure he views himself as a starter. Of course. What he's saying is, look, we got this group of guys. We're trying to win a championship. What coach says about how we go about doing this. That's what we all got to try to do, and I'm one of those guys takes. Let me let me say this. I take you asked me a damn question. I'm gonna give you an answer. This is my job. I don't tell us cardinal, Anthony, don't you jump shots? Don't tell me, don't answer question. That's my job number one. And number two, I'm not saying that that might not end up being the decision. What I'm trying to say to you and you mocked this words down right here. If the ends up coming off the bench, there's gonna be a problem, Houston, you could book.

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Browns' hype fading?, Daniel Jones, Carson Wentz + Eagles, Patriots without Antonio Brown

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Browns' hype fading?, Daniel Jones, Carson Wentz + Eagles, Patriots without Antonio Brown

"Hiber one good Monday morning to you. This is first things first Gen Wolf. That's the hall of Famer Chris Carter. This is Nick Right. It is a great day to have a three hour sports program because we got about three hours worth of sports to talk about the giants have themselves a quarterback and their first win chiefs and Ravens lived up to their billing and the browns were trying to put it all together against the rams on Sunday night football. That's where we start this morning. First Energy Stadium Brown's keeping it close throughout the night last dry for Cleveland down seven ball and before I baker incomplete two drivers Landry Second Down Baker incomplete pass to Jarvis Landry third-down Baker incomplete passes to tight end Dimitrius. There's one last chance fourth down because that's how football works. Baker picked off by John Johnson that will seal the game rams escape escape with a win for the browns another rough outing for their much hyped to offense as they fall to one and two on the season after the game here said coach Freddie Kitchens chance. If you're looking to blame somebody blame me. Don't blame me any of our players. Don't blame any of our other coaches. Just blame me because I can take it all right so you know just go rach article and say I must have game go route. Yoriko say a small faulted. Things not looking like it did last year because it is. I got nothing but support. Freddy's he's done a phenomenal job so you'd have to take a look at the film. I mean I know what you guys are. GonNa try and do is talk about the play calling but executions the most important thing. You know whatever whenever we have called. We've got to do our job all right see we'll start with with you. Freddie kitchen stepped out in front of that podium and said it's play calling. It's all on me was it all play calling was it. Penalties was chemistry. Baker was at that offensive line or was it. Freddie addictions votes a number of things and I can understand Freddie trying to take some of the blame but you have too many moving parts him say you know something. Don't blame the players. Don't blame any other coaches. Just blame me. It's not that simple but as far as the fourth down the draw the draw call I hadn't seen in all my years of watching eighteen since I coach little league on fourth down. I'm getting ready to run a draw forth they nine and bill to pick it up like when you can throw the ball as well as you can. Throw it in if I put at the ball in the air. There is a chance I can get pass interference. So once you decide to run you negate all that he told me there rush was so fierce they we're GonNa let the guys up the field. They had a plan to get up on one the linebackers and build a split it yes but explain that to me but in that situation it's very very tough fourth orphan nine in all the stats they've been keeping. They've only been keeping stuff like this for like thirteen years. There was no staff there in this category they had no one had ever run a drawl so oh Freddie kitchens taking over the overall head coaching responsibility is now affecting his play calling most of the time it does it takes some experience in doing in it that was not the type of film from play. Colin standpoint that they send fail film to Canton and it's going to be in the hall of fame but from a positive standpoint point he did get this team ready to play. They had three of their four starters in their secondary. Were not available to play in the game and they play well enough that they still could have won the game game in holding down the rams running attack jerk golf made a couple of plays against them but overall. I felt pretty kids. Had this team ready to play so we we can't can't miss out on that defense and how the defense played given three quarters of the secondary when when he wasn't available so to me these are two separate categories the play calling the fourth orthon nine was as Chris said unprecedented in recorded. Nfl History and then what you showed in the highlight and what he was talking about at the end was your first and goal at the five with all your timeouts and he said he should have run the ball at least once if not twice see what you can do because they were that draw play notwithstanding more effective running the bald in throwing the ball yesterday so I think both of those choices not running the ball at all at first and goal in the fourth and nine draw were bad choices but the browns lost for a litany of other reasons and the reasons they lost the reason. They're one in two are the reasons almost all of them. The concerns you add going into the season season Jenna. They have all reared their ugly heads concern number. One Freddie Kitchens guy was running backs coach this time last year. All of a sudden becomes the head coach of the team promoted and promoted and promoted again to where he's at the top of the mountain. He's just a total unknown through three games. He has some work to do. Concern number two the one spot where on paper the browns were not agreed team. Their offensive line has been as bad as advertised. The offensive line's been a concern and Baker is seems was to be seen ghosts at this point because he's running before there's even pressure at times. Collins pointed out last night and I thought did a good job on it that sometimes baber bakers rolling his right right before in a clean pocket because there has been so much pressure and the third concern was Baker Mayfield against good competition. Even in the great run last year against good defensively struggled thus far this year. He has struggled mightily so they are three for three on the concerns. The reasons why the browns wouldn't live up to the hype that I I had them in many had had them living up to all of those concerns are showing up and it does not get any easier when next week you go to Baltimore. Let Their defense played well against a team that could put up a lot of points they were they managed to hold them in. That is a positive but let's get back to that offense again because that was supposed to be the sure thing. They have all the weapons. They have all the talent and somehow some way. They're not quite putting it all together. O B J did not have the big game like he had last week. What do you think is holding them back. Most those people an offensive football trying to understand it realize it's about continuity it's about rhythm and if you can't get the quarterback into a rhythm I liked the way they ran the ball against the rams. The Rams have a stout front seven but their inability to passable not too surprising. We shouldn't be because. Ob J. missed a lot of training Kim. They didn't throw a lot in the off season so they do. They lost their tied-in last week so he's another missing part. Kareem Hunt is not coming back to eight games if if he wasn't there last year there is no carryover for the most part in offense of football you start from the drawing board specially when you have several new starters on offense of line line looks like they. Miss Zeigler who they traded him to guard and with the with the train them to the giants in the Olympia Vernon traits so the overall continuity. There's a number of offensive lines in the League struggling. Cleveland is not the only one and passing game not to make excuses for him but they need another speed receiver. Antonio calloway suspended for the first four games of the season you could see the rams clamping down on them because not afraid Dublin. LBJ Most of the time but not afraid of the other white receiver so there is a number of things that you look for the browns to build improve after going to be able to get back in this playoff run as we're early in the season and there was a point in the game where if Baker got the ball out in less than two and a half seconds he was twelve of thirteen and if it was more than two and a half seconds who was one of seven and and that was indicative for how that game went they clearly they were clearly concerned about being able to block the Rams Aaron. Donald had a big game. I think it was only one sack but he was all all over the field. You also again had their addresses. Klay Matthew to they brought in and Dante Fowler showed up and so they clearly had a plane. Get the ball out of Baker's hands fast but when you do that unless you have the Odell catch and run for eighty nine yards. There's going to be an upper limit on how effective your downfield passing is going to be because the receivers aren't going to have time to have routes developed deep down the field. They don't have faith in their offensive line to be able to block any legitimate front. Which again is why the Baltimore game should be a concern and Baker on the few times. He has a clean pocket. If he doesn't have a quick throw he was rolling to his right repeatedly last night sometimes out in assessing sometimes sometimes not and that breaks things down there was a play where he ran into the rush Aaron. Donald was blocked in Iran to where Donald could get pressure. Bakers got to be better. Freddie Kitchens can say put it on him and the offense align obviously is going to be criticized. Baker through three games has not been the player we saw him. At the end of last season. He's gotta gotTa be better. 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WWW DOC pacific life dot com get the Daniel Jones in just a second but first cardinals some panthers and Dante Jackson getting way up for the interception their crate side angle there look at that vertical they're playing cover to quarterback tried tried to lift it over the cornerback was able to guard two guards to flat based a quarterback in China. Throw it up the real crate athletic play next up ravens and chiefs and Lamar Jackson accent off making two guys miss before hitting the end zone and did it at two one so they got the extra play before third down conversion is it for Kansas City furious fourth quarter by Baltimore. A couple of wild fourth-down throws by Lamar worked out for them as they attempted this comeback exciting game all right more from this exciting game Patrick mahomes thrown it off the back foot to demarcus. Robinson catches it with one hand demarcus runs and have the huge game last week against Oakland with tyreek hill out. He had a quieter day yesterday except for this playwright here. This is all an ad Lib. He's supposed to be clear down the middle. He sees Patty Patty mahomes scrambling patty puts. He breaks his route off. He's going down to scene. He sees Patty Gate rates scramble then he throws it to the corner. Great ad-lib seem seem over his inside shoulder. He wasn't expecting to get that ball a look at this though I finally see. NFL lions taken on auto check out the trick play Doron Ron Carter touchdown bomb ODBC. He gets a double dip throws. A touchdown pass catches a touchdown pass later on oh all you can't grow it now he played quarterback all the way up to the Tenth Grade VI cruises son one of the best receivers in the NFL teams but now back to back win enright going on a hot streak okay. You said they were working on their chemistry. Okay there. We go nice. Throw Doron shout out to him. I moved on giants bucks. Daniel Jones making his first start in Tampa. Got Giants got some bad news early though and Saquon Barkley had to leave the game with an ankle injury Jones kept calm carried on finds Sterling Shepherd for a touchdown twenty twenty five bucks fourth quarter giants down six fourth-down Jones. Yes I'll take a myself a thank. You very much. Put The New York giants up by one Daniel Johns would finish with three hundred thirty six passing yards four total touchdowns Tampa Bay would have one more chance but matt gay would miss the Thirty four yarder his third mistake of the game and the giants fighting back from down eighteen in the third for their biggest comeback and forty nine years. Here's The star of the game the rookie Daniel Jones after his first career start. You never really know how to go. That's important. That's that's football so you know we. We've found a way to win. We battled and UH found a way to finish it and that's what you know. That's what's the most exciting. I don't know you guys. Tell me I thought he did a pretty good job. First Time and I think as you go along he'll continue to get better. We believe in him from the day we drafted him and first time out. He didn't disappoint far and away okay. I thought one of the most exciting games of the weekend see how impressive was Daniel Jones in his starting debut yesterday very exciting very exciting. I it's hard to script what was going going to happen. After being announced the starter earlier in the week and then now earlier in this game they lose their best football player in Barclay not being available potentially with a high ankle sprain and what he was able to do after that it was very impressive. Not the numbers not the throws but his composure being on the road. Jameis Amos Winston was playing some great football. They were throwing it all over the place and for him to be able to bring his team back. It's hard enough in this league to build a comeback. Let Lone touchdown touchdown in the field. Go but eighteen point it speaks to giants haven't done this in in in in copiers and forty nine years so very impressive very impressive start for a young guy very athletic his mannerisms very very similar to Eli. They talked about the production meeting the night night before the game and talking to him the announcer said after covering Eli for so long they closed their eyes and felt like they were still talking to Eli so I thought the the giants did a good job as far as getting routes that he could throw tremendous training camp tremendous off season and he's right to coach did say they have believed in him from from the beginning. That's why they drafted him in in that spot. This is one of the first good things that happened to the giants in a long John in a very long time in the last couple years all that they've had is we'll say Kwan's awesome and that's really just been hold onto this saquon gets hurt and Daniel Jones owns who you have to be happy for because through no fault of his own he was roundly mocked by yours truly and many others be not even him being mocked the giant mocked for picking him where they picked him and given what is college profile was given the fact that a lot of the draft experts thought he would be available at the end of the first first round and they took him in the top ten at six overall and he comes out and does something no rookie is ever done in his I grew start to rushing to rushing touchdowns. Two passing touchdowns sounds and that play right there. I mean that's a play that ally for all his good could not make even with the Red Cedar Park like that him being able to run it there on fourth down on not quite to seal the victory because the giants defense still put the let the bucks getting field goal range as we saw and all the issues with the giants that we've talked about when people say it's is not allies fault. They don't have a good offense vine. Their defense stinks. We saw them all yesterday. Daniel Jones was under constant attack and the defense still stinks yet. He was good enough off to drive them back for the victory to keep them in the game and then end up completing the victory. You've gotta be excited and happy for him. For an eighteen point comebacks here to rushing touchdown a little context Eli who's probably GonNa be all famer seven rushing touchdowns in his career zero eighteen point comebacks to your stat stat earlier. It was as perfect start as one could imagine for career especially given the controversial if you will way he was announced as the starter with people thinking can you like should have been given more rope and for all the similarities that Daniel Jones has to Eli manning the way they look the way they dress the way the act their composure. They're sort of subtle humbleness to them. The biggest difference you saw very quickly. He's more athletic at least much better runner and much more aggressive in that than than Eli ever was. How much more optimistic seeing that that component game are you about the giants moving forward. I'm glad the giants have a quarterback but we're going to do with it. It's been nice if the kid you still have the blonde hair used to play their imagine if he was still playing there all right because you still need big time players so I'm not going to be happy to say they all man. You know some yeah. The giants are well on their way if they got saquon Barkley Nagato. BJ and they got Daniel Jones. They look like they can be an outfit that could who played some good football for a long time. I liked the marriage with the coach and the quarterback now. Are they going to put the other things around. I'm concerned about Kenny. Stay healthy with with that. Offensive Line is going to play more football this year because there's no way that that kids don't appeal to stay healthy. We said that when they named him the starter. We didn't think it was going to be over with that. Offensive Line is bad. Barclays Allen extended period of time rumor has it that he might have a high ankle sprain he had won freshman year at Penn state which caused him to miss a couple of games but an explosive runner like that with a high ankle sprain. He's GonNa miss some time now we're. NFL DEFENSE IS GONNA do. They ain't concerned concerned about them. Running all they got to do is put everyone in the box and heat up that quarterback so for me. They're still worries one game don't make a career but tremendous start by Daniel Jones and the giants were able to get the victory. I mean the the defense tried to give it back to them. You Football God smiled fondly on the giants and smiled poorly on the bucks for intentionally taking a delay of game because they thought their kicker was better from further out than closer in which I've never heard before but if what but he did you mentioned Saquon got hurt people didn't want to the game especially people if you're not in the New York area. You probably didn't watch the game I mean. SAQUON got hurt early. In this game he had in the game in ten carries carries for ten yards. Pardon me and a few receptions they did this with no running attack aside from Daniel Jones on that touchdown. They did this having having to pass the ball by the way not only no of course but still no golden tate who still out with the suspension you you have to be more optimistic in this regard if if you like me after the draft thought with the giants have all these issues and they don't have a quarterback now you have to open your mind the possibility that Dave gettleman through mini mini missteps got one right at the quarterback position of course one game doesn't make a career and I'm not ready to anoint Daniel Jones the right pick yet but he couldn't have been better in that first start in more adverse circumstances because of the often because of Saquon and now next week they get home game is first game at home against Washington all of a sudden. They could be five hundred so you have to be more. We're optimistic even though there are still some infrastructure issues and what would he have looked like with Odell. 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Nobody is slowing down this offense. Flatly this was rain intermittent. They had no left tackle. They didn't have their best wide receiver. They didn't have their starting running back and you look down and it's the beginning of the beginning of the fourth quarter against maybe the best defense in the AFC other New England and you're like Oh. They're up thirty two thirteen the the the the jags game. It's like Oh. This is turns out to be a great defense. You look down beginning in the fourth quarter. Oh It's thirty-seven thirteen the raiders game in between they scored scored four four times in the second quarter and then just put it in neutral and glided on home. I it feels right now that if you have India redesigning the place and Patrick mahomes throwing the football almost all the other pieces are interchangeable. They didn't even have their best running back named Williams yesterday and he's the one who makes the play that clinches the game lead after Baltimore had a bit of a Fourth Quarter Rally Patrick Mahomes just in uncharted waters now we all said he can't match his five thousand yard touchdown season. He's he's on pace for sixty three hundred yard fifty four touchdown season and he hasn't thrown an interception chiefs offense against Jacksonville and Baltimore two of the best evens evens in football has been exceptional. We only can only imagine what they're gonNA look like when they play. Some of the worst defenses in football and the defense has clearly been improved. I I'm I'm not ready to say. The defense is fixed yet but the defense clearly is improved right now the chase plus. You look like if not the best team in football clearly one of the top two. They did a good job yesterday. You have to give their defense credit because what Baltimore offers in presents. It's a lot of stuff now. I do do believe that Baltimore's passing game with Hollywood Brown when he's healthy. He's only practicing one day. A week missed all of training camp. He's still got that that Liz Liz Frank where he broke his foot still trying to heal from that you could see as the game goes on he starts to get a little bit of limp in his speech was a little bit hampered especially on a muddy track Andrews. They're tied in the number one receiver. He was hurt during the week he played in the game didn't play real well so they negated their tight ends from and been able to be as effective so that game plan right there was it was it was rock solid and that was something. Kansas City couldn't do before this is a good football game because I remember in. Baltimore is going to be a good team. In the end. I do believe these. Two teams will see each other. Andy Reid and the wide receivers thus far have done a tremendous tremendous job they make spectacular catches they run routes at full speed and regardless if they're the one receiver in the plate are the number four from a a priority standpoint all their guys are making plays all over the field so patrick mahomes too because tire kills not there and Kelsey is unselfish. He doesn't feel the demand that normal quarterbacks feel in. I gotta get this radical. I gotta get this guy a certain amount of touches. I gotta get this guy. The only the difference when Patty Mahomes in the Golden State Warriors is Golden State was top five in defense when they won those championships and Kansas City what kind of defense defense they're going to have because Patrick Mahomes steph curry and what they were doing are the only things that I see but the only thing can stop them is that defense can that defense hold up they have to go on the road and they face against teams that have more competent wide receiving corps than what Baltimore has a pretty unproven group so so Lamar Jackson yesterday he looked human for the first time this season if you're Lamar Jackson what do you take away from that game. Well I think Lamar he struggled in a place throwing the ball that he struggled last last year throwing the ball and I think if you're the furthermore Chris's point that his two most the options he's been to most dynamic with all year. Hollywood Brown did not look look like the player he had the first couple of weeks of Mark Andrews. WHO's been dynamic for them was a game time decision and you could see that he was not at one hundred percent but I think for Lamar it was not going to the MVP best passer in football season was not going to continue. He did make a couple. Spectacular plays in the attempted comeback to four thousand one was very fortunate wasn't picked the other was a great play by him and then the touchdown run to cut it to a three point zero five point game. Pardon me could have been three point game. The two point point conversion late in the game. He was electric avoiding the rush again and he was inaccurate with the football. I don't I don't want to overreact to this game. From Lamar. It was a bad game by him passing the football but he was under duress a fair amount and the chiefs had a pretty good game plan which was if you're going to run the ball go ahead and run the ball and the Ravens had a good plan was to run the bowl and then to use the warriors analogy. They went on that eighteen four run and you get taken out of your running game so now you have to throw it and that's of situation. I don't think Baltimore is going to find themselves is in very often. We're there down. Three scores and you have to throw the football. The chiefs did that to him. Which is why even though the chiefs gave up two hundred yards rushing. It didn't really hurt him in that ultimately. Keep your eye why on those rushing numbers because if they're going to lose time possession is going to be a part of a quarterback struggling in Kansas City throwing the ball no on a wet day no. I'm not worried read about that at all. His team was still in the position with the comeback. I if you look at the lack of experience skill guys have in Baltimore. They left Kansas City a yesterday fillon. Good saying you know something out. We get another chance at them. Baltimore trying to get back on the winning track. I think they played Cleveland this week. This is two very good teams playing and I don't the thing that I don't think that Lamar's look in this game. As a negative he no. He can throw the ball a lot better but there were four or five balls that he had right off. The fingertips of his wide receivers and is titus barely missed him. He didn't turn the ball over which was huge and I thought you would love John Harbach aggressive playcalling yesterday going for it on on the touchdown report on fourth down. The Ravens had a very interesting. I think philosophy forget the two point conversions which I think everyone should do the way they did spots but they clearly thought you know what whether Kansas City's got ninety yards over forty yards to go. They're going to be hard to stop so our job is to keep the football so they went for a bunch of fourth downs. It didn't work out for them. I'm in this game but I do agree with you. I do think it was the right call. Absolutely hey guys this is Jenna Wolfe. I'm here to tell you about neum. Some people think that all died and weight loss plans are the same but that's because they haven't tried ride. Num Num is a new totally different approach to losing weight and getting healthy that uses psychology and small goals to help you change your habits making making it easy to lose the weight and keep it off for good neum combines the power of technology with real human support offering as little or as much help as you want along the way and since neum is an APP. It's always with you and easy to use which makes it super easy to stay on track and reach your goals. It's just as simple to get started started. Go Online answer few questions and they'll create a personalized program just for you. NEUM can help you lose your old way of thinking about food food and dieting so what you have to lose visit neum dot com slash podcast N. dot com slash podcast and start your fourteen day trial today. Change Your Habits Change your mind change for good with new Cardinals Panthers Dante Jackson getting way up for a nice interceptor way up. The vertical leap on this is is just unbelievable. Shocking Panthers played their best game of the you're in all phases by a wide margin yesterday with their backup quarterback. I talked to coach washing this weekend. He thought they had a good plan for cuyler. In new they were in a must win situation with cam being out Eric Washed Defense Coordinator Carolina Ravens and achieves. Lamar Jackson taken off makes guys miss before he finds the end zone. This was part of an attempted furious fourth quarter comeback by the Ravens. They obviously fell short. Lamar was very good running the football very good avoiding the big mistake but his past is passing. It was just a little bit off on a bunch of Ki- throws. A socks were down. Oh yeah he plays like that. Show off. Those calves gentle like you don't even know what that means to me as much as possible like you saying you don't workout that much for no other reason just to show my cab more from this game. Patrick mahomes throwing it off the back foot to demarcus Robinson Nice. Throw Nice catch catch say this is off script. Absolutely you can see a clear route down the Middle Patty mahomes backs up a couple more and throws it to the corner because he knows that's the only spot you you see him. Look over your shoulder because he's looking for pantyhose. Either thought down the field. He wasn't even supposed to be the decoy in that. One patty add lives. He makes a remarkable. Oh kiss he's played some spectacular ball great man since tyreek. Hill got hurt. He's just been the last week he was great against the raiders. He made this catch here the chiefs this is keep coming up with wide receivers man that a guy named Byron Pringle May ca-catch yesterday. That's a great name. It is a great name all right onto the soap opera that has been Antonio Antonio Brown who was released by the Patriots on Friday his career as a Patriot eleven days six practices one gain one touchdown and eighty seven thousand questions uh-huh directed a bill belichick about the latest allegations yesterday. Brown tweeted that he will not play in the NFL again after being on his third team in the last six six months lots of get into here see what do you make of the latest news around Ab. I think he will play again. I think there will be teams that the that continue to have interest in his ability to play on the field. I believe that right now. It's very very difficult with the NFL with a full blown investigation until they get the details of that. I think that Abe will be back but when it doesn't work in New England and this is something I've seen for the guys we always talk about the older. Corey Dillon's older Randy mosses and everything looked back on New England and tell me a player that's left there and done well all right through your whole history three in everything you told me someone. That's increased their stats. They went somewhere else and they got better know. Typically typically it goes the other way they they get a couple of years. In New England. Bill gets the best album for that system then they end up going somewhere else that it's someone else's fault then at someone else's fault and in real quick the reclamation projects that they've taken on that don't work out. That's the end of the road for him. Hanes worth the end of the Road Chad Johnson the end of the road like that so it's not just that they get the best football out of you while you're there but if you are on the Corey Dillon Randy Moss Albert Hendra to buy low because great talent but they didn't get the best Komo Tony O'Brien like they didn't know or Albert Haynes into me the mounting pressure which caused them before more information comes out. Let's get off this player. Let's let's not have any more press conferences like the one he had towards the end of the week. That was awful because if he's on the roster people people have a right local media have a right to build ask about that player and they did everything they could. I think he only had one appearance where he spoke to the media but I I know the Patriots were filling. This is only the beginning as far as information and all this information was new to them when they signed him so they had the right to be able to get all he had a five million dollar alad balloon payment that was GONNA be due today and after practice on Friday which is a strange thing because if you practice on Friday you get a full week's pay and the Patriots hatred aren't about a full week's pay if you're not going to play on the weekend and they make the rupp abrupt decision and decide to release him on Friday afternoon in they had to be able to do this. You couldn't continue to have this type of black cloud over what we would call the marquee franchise. Nfl I I have never seen something quite like this these last thirty days or so in my life watching pro sports you guys remember the movies obvious great movies. Richard Pryor Brewster's millions of course okay so the premise of the movie is he has to below thirty million dollars. That was the number in thirty days without telling anyone and then he gets get three hundred million dollars and he was doing all these crazy things. All the people run. We're like what are you doing with clean couldn't say anything unless Antonio Brown has some rich uncle that is told him. I'm GONNA give you three hundred million dollars. If you can blow thirty million dollars in a month than what has happened in the last thirty days where he has blown thirty million dollars and more more is just inexplicable and a level of self sabotage that I cannot remember despite the feet and the hot air balloon and the helmet home and everything what really kicked all of this off was that tweet instagram with the fine for Mike mayock that then led to the screaming match with with Mike Mayock which then beget the record phone goal which then beget the release me raiders and then everything since then with the Patriots which took it from Zany Amy Lunatic Diva wide receiver too much darker place with the allegations coming from two separate women and then the what I would call witness intimidation that was uncovered covered by Robert glencoe late Thursday night early Friday morning to where Antonio Brown has followed the perfect script of trying to end his NFL career now now. I agree with Chris that next year. I don't think he'll play this year. I'd be shocked if a team signed this season but I think nectar team will probably try to bring them in because he is so talented talented and even in the one game with the Patriots he showed the talent but no one should believe that all of a sudden the crazy behavior is going to stop and by the way the no one should believe there won't be more allegations of misconduct from a player who in clinical story writes about had the police come. I'm to his house three separate times in three separate days consecutively. I mean the destruction left in his wake for unpaid debts to Herat. Allegedly Angelique harassed women. I don't think that's a player. That's all of a sudden going to straighten up and fly right when he couldn't with doing so. That's why. I don't think he plays again. I think he's seen his last days in the NFL because if he does go away. I don't think he's going to stay for a year. Quiet off social media not bothering anyone stay in phenomenal shape which is probably the most likely if anything he's set to do and then be ready available we'll see a changed man reformed and ready to play in the NFL next year but let's talk about this from the Patriots perspective. Do they even miss a beat without Antonio Brown in that offense of course I do of course they do. We know their desperation. That's the reason why you go out and sign a player like this now. How will they get there as far as often productivity. They don't even even know yet. Edelman got injured in this game. They don't know who they're going to have out there. They wish they had to marry. His Thomas. Today traded over to the jets now that Ab joss Gordon Ordon is still week-to-week day today so how they're going to do it do. They have a tight end that they can use as a weapon man. They're going to try to reinvent themselves. They they will. They've only had a couple of days to be able to adjust to this. They will adjust they are the team that you can depend on to build a just but the reason why you how now Josh Gordon at Wide Receiver Antonio Bryant or Antonio Brown at wide receiver because you don't have faith in what you have. That's what lets you know. The level of desperation they came depend on element element ain't no showstopper came play outside the numbers. He don't put no fear. NFL defensive praised up yesterday in Dan but Josh Gordon Lay lost late last year they adapted they will have time to be able to adapt to what type of team they're going to be in if I'm teams. I'm putting pressure on Tom Brady. He doesn't WanNa give hit and I'm not too afraid of the wide receiving corps and their offensive line has wholesale changes so I'm not GonNa make it easy on them by playing their way. I'M GONNA try to make them play left-handed. I`Ma Blitz Brady. I'm GONNA play the wide receivers man because I'm not afraid listen. Patriots Defense has still been exceptional if you don't watch their game against the jets I don't blame you but they too downs were scored by the jets neither the Patriots right neither with the Patriot Stevens on the field so the Patriots Defense has still not allowed a touchdown since the AFC championship game four game the defense going to be really good but the offensive line is banged up up the wider. You know how much you know how we know how much the Patriots thought they needed the `Antonio Brown Chris. You said something beginning there that I just be honest the audience I missed which was that. AP practiced just Friday that those text messages to the second accuser were reported Thursday night. I saw I saw him at three thirty. In the morning. When I was Waking Up Friday morning the Patriots Song and they decided I know Patriots fans feel like all man he had a Dalai Lama moment and they woke up. All you know something we're above of this. No the Patriots aren't above this right. This is forced that right the mountain of public opinion in afraid of what potentially was going into come out something must have happened because those texts came out on Friday in the middle of the night going into Friday Thursday night and he practiced Friday so they add that information and they're playing was will no comment. We'll play him and then something happened in the next few hours while it was napping Friday when I woke up he's been cut and so so I didn't I don't know I don't know what happened there but it wasn't so Robert Glencoe story and said that was the final Straw they saw Robert Clinical. Story said we need him so bad. We're still going to try to play him and then something else either an outside force or something force their hand and they cut him that I say that say this they don't do that. They desperately. I need them. They don't do that if they don't think we need this player not necessarily against the jets but for the remainder of the football season and his subsequent tweets since getting let how would he's now. It's just GONNA keep shooting himself in the foot and blaming the whole world. I got to disagree with you guys because there's some awful rap sheets have guys in the League for you guys to think did all that. He's done. This guy's done some really violent stuff that Abe will get another chance. Thank you for listening adding to the first things first podcast. Remember leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcasts and catch us on F s one Monday through Friday six thirty A._M. Eastern for Chris Carter Nick Right on Jenna Wolfe so on everybody.

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Week's Best (Eli Manning's legacy, Jalen Hurts, LeBron, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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Week's Best (Eli Manning's legacy, Jalen Hurts, LeBron, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes)

"Welcome to the weekend edition of the undisputed podcast on your host Johnny Taft. Today's podcast features teachers all the best segments from this week sleep of undisputed with ended up interviews and discussions. We have a lot to talk about heading into next week. Skip Shannon. Let's get into it. There will be a new quarterback under center for New York. The giants announced Rookie Daniel Jones will be getting the starting nod on Sunday replacing Eli Manning following the teams Owen to start and a statement through the team website head coach. Pat Shurmur said he had talked to both quarterbacks this morning regarding allies reaction to the news Shurmur Shurmur said this ally. I spoke this morning. I told him that we are making a change and going with Daniel as the starter. I also talked to Daniel. Eli was obviously disappointed as you would expect but he said he would be what he has always been a good teammate and continue to prepare to help this team when games so Shannon when you think about allies career. What are you GonNa Remember. Just give the two times super bowl winning quarterback. He the two-time Super Bowl. MVP skippy went on to historic great runs layoffs but outside of that. He's been a very average quarterback. Eli made the Playoffs Offs Six Times outside of those playoff runs. You Never WanNA play off game. He's only went to the playoffs. One says that twenty ten the last time they beat the Patriots in the playoff he he they five hundred quarterback one hundred sixteen up one hundred sixteen down he led the NFL three times and I t's and Eli Manning's guilt is going to make the hall of fame. He's off to great playoff runs really I do you just get assuring right into the whole time. Skip voter I I'm in the hall of fame and I used to think I knew what hall of Famer was but obviously I don't anymore but quarterbacks that win the MVP in that game it they normally get to the they normally get to the hall of fame and he skipped. He'd be the sixteen not that many unbeatable and he beat him. What you think AH satellites maintenance he did do that. I can make a case the defendant I I I. I would concur that a conclusion skip alive manning has been a very average quarterback. His numbers say that his win loss record see that but he had to historic runs. He went and foreign and outside of that he owned four so I wish I can give you more than that and says okay. Would you know you had to or that. He's been average quarterback. This is simply the weirdest career in NFL history. There's never been anything like this and I will suggest there never will be anything like this because we all start with the perspective of he is the son of Archie Manning and he is the little brother of peyton manning so he is established as NFL royalty on the day he's drafted Yup Correct Jeff Scher and and then you start throwing out the numbers and if you take out the two magical runs to the super bowl and he didn't just win the Super Bowl. He slayed Tom. Brady twice in his career. He's three and two against Tom. Brady and he won another game that was a big deal to the old show I was on on espn but it was back on November six of twenty eleven they the giants played at Foxboro and he outdueled him again in threw a touchdown pass to Jake Ballard at the buzzers fifteen fifteen seconds left to beat Tom Brady in his house so he was a brady killer and other than that I can even make the case. He was below. Oh average you you lead this league interceptions three times really so you made four pro bowls but you played sixteen years so you only made four out of sixteen it wasn't you can't call that perennial pro no okay and how about two hundred and forty one career interceptions that's the most among active all active of quarterbacks right now and how about the giants hung onto long just because he was NFL royalty in their waiting for one blast from the past because his starting record since twenty seventeen is eight hundred twenty five eight and twenty five. I used to use a cowboy killer but he ended up thirteen and seventeen against Dallas and he lost his last five straight okay. So is that a hall of fame career will if we take out the two super bowl runs. He was Oh and four in the playoffs that the hall of fame no well. I get your gist on legendary nece. Yes he beat Tom. Brady twice and Super Bowl but what did they say skip. You make use awesome mentioned legacy in the player. I know he did it. Would you look at the regular season. It leaves a lot to say five hundred. It's it's it's give you one if he's what eighteen one fourteen and over five hundred in Asia wonder. How did you keep your job this long long. It's because Archie Eli into Brady Super Bowls right down and they they kept holding that he's going to he life allied you get to the playoff if you get to the playoffs get big kept hoping for that Magic to happen for that because struck twice they say lightning doesn't strike twice in the same any place well it did on hill and by the way he did make one zero in each brady game that turned the game. Yes he made one. David Tyrany Carini made one to Mario Manningham the Mario Manningham. Let's give that might have been the best career okay and he dropped it in there. Get down. The chimney did ooh like Santa Claus. Yes right yes but I mean. I wish I could say more but he he has that on his resume. That's what he has killed. If I say oh he'd be Tom Brady behind Tom. Brady is unbeatable in that game on the top rated in the Super Bowl. Neil rely did it twice as hard to find a quarterback this beaten with outside of his big brother. That's beaten Tom. Brady in the playoff game. You let alone twice now. Joe FLACCO obviously Joe FLACCO did individual earliest might have been might have been the division might have been the wildcard wildcard round wildcard car beat him in wildcard they beat him in the gym but skip that few and far between and that took down in the ultimate game you did too close games and that's and that's this is resume artists. Nobody mention that he's won sixteen in one sixteen no one's going to mention that he led the league interception three times no one's going to mention that he only made the pro bowl four times what are the sixteen years every on his resume that the top in big bold font two time superbowl winning quarterback back who also MVP in both of those game and yet. I've often watched him play and I've wondered out loud on TV does does even know where he is like. This seems to just sort of drift through games like rain man like like he is that they've always said he has very high football. IQ But he seems oblivious hist everything going on around him and it's like see receiver throw football to receiver where am I. Oh yeah. I'm playing for the giants. I mean his personality just seems so different. Peyton Peyton is like soul seems to be where he is. He's like out. Gorny like but allies dislike they'd like like I know rather rather than like polar opposites polar opposites cooper even more crazy big person the biggest personality of the three cooper or is this a cooper on Sundays but but the point is that that Eli never or said anything he was always the nicest guy you know he was a good. He's a good face of the franchise. Yes just wasn't very entertaining no he. He worked at saying nothing. I'm not sure you ever had a whole lot baby skill. This is why he's survived or survive. He did well as he did in New York New York because of the the way he's wired the way he's built. It seems like nothing bothers him. It doesn't seem like he doesn't care if he's coming or going. Whatever y'all when did they say that they've been saying the oldest sixty? I've never heard him. Say anything bad about me. He like wake up Shannon and the commercial break is that don't come to a point where you know you're just not doing it and look. I watched my cell phone damn tidy moving slow and then all of a sudden he turned around he had eighty eighty four Yup by DA guilty all the twitch wasn't there. Will you step on the gas. That'd be like Oh. I think I'm running. No you're not yeah and you have it hard when you played at this level to come to grips with your own mortality tally yeah but you know what knowing he lies all-time survival ability. I will not be shocked if if that kid takes his job and just just stinks it up your nose no allies starting next year. I said that I'm like what if it's not don't in order in order for this guy to succeed. You'RE GONNA have to move on from. He kept because he knows there. There's always a fallback plan. You GotTa know a you say you can swim. I got to throw you out there skip and there's a GM in a coach who basically bet their jobs on yes because nobody was going to take that kid that high would they better be right because remember in the preseason how free assurance Pat Shurmur was talk. Oh I know what we think. You should ask the guy that was against it that what day fake not you better be right. Wonder if Eli would go anywhere else. Would anybody even giving me shots. I don't know I mean you live right behind. Peyton as making the most money in history so it's not a money issue is just whether or not he still wants to play. I believe he does probably Daniel Jones. Era has officially begun for the giants and we're GONNA be waiting to see what he does against the bucks on Sunday so former teammates to a tunnel by Lola uh-huh and Jalen hurts continued to go toe-to-toe each week as the race for the heisman heats up last weekend to through for nearly four hundred fifty yards and five touchdowns against South Carolina meanwhile Jalen Pass for just under three hundred yards and three touchdowns along with one hundred and fifty yards and another touchdown on the ground according to Fox bet to is now just a slight favorite to win the heisman over the QB. He replaced in Tuscaloosa hard now joined by Fox College football analysts Reggie Bush good to have you. Oh so we'll Nick Sabin regret giving up on Jalen no not always going to regret giving up on Jalen. Life is good in Alabama real. You got the best team in 'cause football really you got the best quarterback in Costco Ball guaranteed to make the playoffs even with one loss and I think even if Alabama loss two games they still figure out a way to get him in the playoffs and when to a- leaves they just going to replace him with another a five star quarterback so life was good in Alabama. I don't think Nick Sabin has any reason to even worry about. Losing Jalen hurts because his quarterback he has right now beat now jalen hurts for that starting spot and so to me when I look at the big picture because I I do think Jalen hurts has the best shot out of the to win the heisman trophy because does he played this situation perfectly. He went from having to face. SEC differences every week to facing big twelve defenses every week which everybody knows they don't really play a lot of defense in the big twelve and so when I look at the big picture he's going to continue to put up these kinds of numbers every week because there's not a single defense on that roster on schedule. Joel looks like heisman winner to me not being fair looking guy well. No twelve tall peaks really any hey has yet to really be do play insignificant time in the fourth quarter. No he will regret his skip. Jalen hurts got beat up. Let me tell you how much coal saving love Jalen hurts conseil replace Jalen hurts and in the national championship game against Georgia tool comes back lead them to victory coach. Saving love of Jalen hurts so much that he puts the job up into sprees. Whoever wins it in the spring? That's going to be my starting quarterback. He'd beat up to talk about. Ot tackling t eighty tt so what was her. You know what this is my last year. I want to go play can't beat him out. He just beat me out last. Ask Spring. I'm not going to beat him out this free so what was supposed to do he golding goes to Oklahoma wishing well. It's the same thing can can album commit coach saving met ever Kamera that will compare what was going to be daring Henry Drake his playing time with limited. He got the running running back. We're talking about quarterback much important. My point is if you can't be the guy out and you don't WanNa sit the bit. Let me go somewhere where I can play. They went to Oklahoma. Calorie lift what you skipped a step who took over in one. Sec Championship game and Got Alabama to the playoffs last year. Oh Oh it's okay what he should stay. Is They Kosabe. I'll stay if you put the job up. In the spring again. Now exactly shown own up his coach knew where he was headed to a better coach to Lincoln Riley a much better offencive goats first of all you and I both know Lincoln Riley well having said that Saint Nick's had that why he got six titles how many you guys got he got all them heisman and how many how many calls playoff win three straight heisman has been trophies me. What do you got to show that does have a good no one's ever done that. No schools ever had three straight. USC He's done pretty well here and there but not three three no three. Nick Sabin made a big mistake. Stop what what Jalen when Hertz is doing for the University of Oklahoma Right. Now is extraordinary. This is a grown man running. I'll give you big twelve defensive. I'll even give you south South Dakota but it is extraordinary how he's taking over football games with his arm as well as his legs. We knew about the legs. This is a running back playing quarterback. This is a grown man I could put that other word in the middle of it thrown that's what he remained the Amen Amen Amen. This is pound for pound the strongest man in the Ou weight room because he can lift him some wait in Egan. Lift him some linebackers. DB's when it's time to and I'll be the first to tell you. I don't love how he runs over people but he just if it's the easiest. GonNa run his tail over and again. Can you last doing that. Maybe in the big twelve you can but what he did at Ucla at the the most useless got athletes on defense southern California kids who fly to them in all he did did was something no Oklahoma player panel good Oklahoma offensive players. None has ever done what he did. He threw for two hundred plus and ran for one hundred plus a half in the first half and the numbers he put up were were at least equal. I know two out of big game at South Carolina because he threw for four forty four but my guide totaled four thirty nine. Throw it limits you question if Jalen rose's doing that with the path that he'll what would you do if we're leaker Riley. Wait a second if Jalen hurts had Jerry Judy and rubs the first round that if you get them right now he's going to be the first pick in the draft thank you. Jalen hurts had it and he's throwing the ball in the first row the championship game he got rid. Maybe we should credit Lincoln Riley for this because he's tournament a really good football. He looks really good to me. He looks. NFL fell good well. That's the thing about Lincoln Lincoln Riley because I love the fact that he's not saying. This is my system. I'm going to try to fit you into my system. He's calling plays. He's four Jalen hurts that showcase his skill set and when he does best but also jalen hurts have CD lamb he has great weapons over there that he's as using which is why he is continuing to put up these kinds of numbers weekend and week out but there's no Jerry Judy but there's no lamps. He's really got some perceived. Every time I looked up to is throwing a five yard pass that went seventy yards. What we know coach Saban had had that ball is the I got T T. Go do what you do stands for trap trap. De Eh over five hundred. Is He real. He does get knocked around. He gets beat up and then sometimes loses it. I saw at the end of the year. He lost his confidence though he did did I saw that is putting up paying on Oklahoma. You kept telling L. Let me all the bad the movie with a say Knicks Eight little league getting old you have you seen in what Hollywood Brown's doing for Lamar so this is like we did not have him for the national semi-final. He could not play play. He was hurt in God bless him. I'm knocking on wood for him. He came back and beat us a tough. Do we lose players. We six coaches a year decoy. Look at the Guy Down in Georgia Smart Molly guy the Guy Maryland. We moved told you every year saying nick still only man. That's coaching gotTa Statue. Out of the building coaching. That's how good he got a statue October. I is my over under for Nick Sabin blowing up over yet another media question. Hey what about Jalen hurts. Are you impressed player when they way on that over five hundred guys my rug two hundred Oklahoma in two weeks. I'll find out the latest weeks Texas this tech. I really get to know take do a little research. We we don't even talk. That's that's another day. You got to move on. Reggie always good to have you with us. Thanks for joining US policy according to a list of NBA panelists analysts Lebron James was voted as the star who most fine the past decade that gang is racked up three titles three funnels MVP's and three regular regular season MVP's in that timeframe Bron lead players in scoring and was the only player in the top ten in points rebounds and assists. Steph curry finished finish second and Kevin Durant came in third so Shannon isn't even close between Lebron all no no no no. Oh go ahead and say hey. I don't know skip if close me close like earthy. Pluto that close getting getting closer by the Yes oh no stop it Lebron James. It eighth straight finals first team all NBA in the tower decades until last season. This was the only player I think there's thirty days what thirty teams in the NBA About fifteen plans so you're looking at about four hundred and fifty maybe born seventy by players in the NBA only player in the tar team rebounds points and assists realize everything that you see. Are you going on with the free agency. Who brought that up out? The dynamic loved the way we do the what you see with the K. D's The Anthony Anthony Davis the MELLOWS. All those guys kill Bela's yeah if because of who made it fashionable before oh I got to finish my career I can't stay. I gotta I gotTa stay here because I'm low to the team. Now I know one day. They might get rid of me. ooh Lebron James. I'M GONNA take ownership. He gave them platforms. Ya you see everybody form and production companies. Everybody got a platform uninterrupted uninterrupted followed his uninterrupted. Now you've got boardroom. You Got Steph. Curry got production company. Everybody Brandon out the impact that still curry had on the court the three point change the way we see the game now yeah. Lebron James has done that off the court but he also did a free agency agency trees that we just has given what one point nine billion in the first twenty four hours and nothing's impacts bales. I don't even know what you think you've said are now. How what the discussion okay. I got a lot we discussing discuss this over team. Oh we discuss over coffee but we discuss with John. Eat some any we just finished. You're GONNA need bodily. It wasn't that big one that how many leaders like John of any. I hate to rain on the blind witness. Parade raid going on across from me but I'm going to give you this Lebron James. Definitely dominated the NBA over the last decade he defined it he he was the MVP for better and for worse because he had epic achievements that you just detained he also had way too many the epic failures the likes of which Michael Jordan never even thought about about my perspective and again the article also concluded. He didn't dominate this decade. The Way Michael dominated the nineties or Bill Russell dominated the sixty just for the bottom line just for the perspective of this but you are right right it detonated this whole decade detonated on July the eighth twenty ten with the decision. What sped the decision you know? I have no problem with decision. I didn't have problem with it being televised. I thought he did exactly what he needed to do. Because what sped it what had just happened. The the Cleveland Cavaliers Featuring Lebron James had just blown a conference finals to the Boston Celtics which they lead and then they lost games four five and six in the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers accused Lebron James of quitting in games four five and six and one of Lebron's insiders told hold several reporters that ESPN Lebron had such a team issue a personal issue going on inside the locker room. He had to be sedated for a couple of those losses so I oh I don't know what happened but he flamed out in Cleveland which sped the the move to take my talents to south beach and then he goes to South Beach and in his first files with the heat what happened happen. They lost epic meltdown. I've never seen anything like it was the worst superstar meltdown I've ever witnessed. It was cringe worthy because four five and six again skin Lebron epic failed in those games and just closed down in the chosen one became the frozen one then what happens twenty thirteen it took Alan hitting the clutch shot ever shot to save Lebron's legacy because if that shot doesn't go down after Lebron had missed the game tying three. What about the mobile doing it okay. I'm just saying it's still came down to Lebron missed offense rebound Chris Bosh kicked a corner Ray Allen swishing from the corner and it Save Save Lebron's legacy from dropping to right now two and seven if the ball doesn't go through the Hoop Lebron is two and seven it came down to that and then twenty fourteen of course it was what was left of Lebron and Dwayne and the heat they got routed in the NBA finals by a record finals margin that ever for happened Michael Jordan no it didn't have that we're talking about two thousand Twenty Fifteen Lebron played three the greatest playoff games he has ever played in my is and again undermanned. He didn't it lost. Syrian obviously already lost Kevin love and he's got gained four in his house and they lose by twenty one up two games to one. Let's let's that's an epic fail but here's the thing and I take. I just dismissed Dan Gilbert. I don't take anything that he says seriously because if you don't ah remember I don't remember the owner of the Golden State Warriors when they blew three one lead to Cleveland. Steph curry choke saying saying he was a good point. He did a very good point who who who don't obey okay the Claybin Claybin it. They blew a three one lead to golden state that same year Neil. I don't remember him saying Kay diesel. No good point you see when you angry avs owner. WHO'S PRETTY SMART. Guy Said my guy quit okay. He quit so I I want to ask you abuse without Scotty in Dennis Rodman. Do you believe Michael Jordan. Your would've won that laugh. NBA Finals against Utah Without Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippen basically didn't have Scottie Pippen in that game six closeout without game because Scotty was having all kinds of sick and didn't even think you could play in that game and they were appreciate. He wasn't going to be able to play in game seven okay so he did it pretty much without Scotty that okay hey. Let's let's take okay. Here's I won his first. NBA Finals when they played the Lakers you take the two best players and I don't know Scott. It was one of save so maybe you say Luc Longley or the Bill Cartwright. Do you believe they beat the Lakers just magic Johnson because that's what Lebron against against him he played with Kerry and Kevin. Love is the second third Bisley okay but then he failed then he didn't beat transcend. Oh remem remember. I'm down to one you remember that migraine in Detroit. Do you remember. Do you know what Michael Jordan's play against the big three you don't have you thought about long wrote. Michelina a bit bit rudely interrupted here because I didn't finish but then we had the twenty eighteen another epic meltdown at the end of game one in Oakland. You can't do this. You refuse to take the shot. After you scored forty eight points a minute. It's hot outside the pain as you've ever been in a play well nobody the shooting that night and he gets the rare hot hand. GotTa Guy Shoot Rare. Jr Smith has a mental blunder and all of a sudden Lebron goes over for insists outside the team. He sits down the bench from the team and you want to talk about epic he pouts he goes into a funk and he will not shoot the basketball the ball for the first two and a half minutes of overtime as they file fall hopelessly behind and it's ballgame in series over let this sink or second sweat the second and third best player of the decade of the twenty teen was on one team and we expect. Lebron's aimed to beat them so I would like to see I I would like to see the the decade all deck eighteen to nineteen eighty in nineteen thousand nine if I want to see if they had two players yeah that was second and third the oldest team okay Michael Jordan veto well then we have to include what happened last year at the Lakers when Lebron went twenty eight and twenty seven games he started started in the year ended with a low lights tapes circulating on the Internet. I'm not going to show it again today because I don't want to rub it in because this hi how you talk about this moment and you just brought up everything that the man don't ban in the last decade to court you got me because because nobody has been more courageously outspoken on social issues than Lebron James. He has revolutionized the way professional athletes can become business tycoon coon. Yes entrepreneurs. No one's ever done anything. He has one hundred and nineteen million followers. If you combine g twitter and facebook that's outrageously fleet. That's his greatest achievement of the he dominates social media Cristiano Rinaldo talking about American athletes in our what were you. That's a global game. You mean to tell me Tom. Brady got one hundred and twenty all those super bowls when auto there'd be we go yeah and I got the fold. Goto my he's got quadruple. Thank you for us. My expression the Fogo no good that tells me that hear about who the real go deal just want you to tell I just WanNa knows it because you know it's not even close you know it's not even close the guys on the NBA team first team he's been. I know you didn't notice Jimmy but he's been three times. First team. All defeated the two and three cafe that until the last two years when he stopped playing defense and got ugly was twenty ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixty with that today in that case the I want to know the guy to have more than three bibles. Mvp I give you that Lebron. James took the decade gate as the drama King every day. It's more drama the fine he was the the most entertaining player by far for better and for worse no worse than no worse than this situation. You can sweep it all into your little wrong wrong wrong wrong. He may go man number one and it's not even close to what you know what I should. I will give you this. He's the goat of the decade that make unhappier brought by broke Mill Creek. Okay trying to figure out what we've discussing this over we could not we could add coffee. We could have a half gallon. I'll be whatever skipped whatever you come to at the end of the day. We call the gallon. It'll be the same anything go james defined the decade debate is made over the decades. No more questions your honor. He used a lot of times knowing who who one more finals into indicate who more got me. Klay got three which one of those guys AH BS lose how many get to you don't you don't do that with Tom. Brady you'll say how many did he do. He got he he got one guy six and three in the files in your guys three Zits Lebron is the Brady does he the need to know does does. He have L. on his resume. Would you shouldn't have five hundred five yards in his coach benches the best defensive player ocal fifty fifty one eight and he lost the game but he lost her game to a guy the number three on the list who had the highest scoring average in a decade k. d. he got hit hit four hundred plus in a season move second on the Lytton. I'm not making a case for Katie. It's all about Lebron for better and I'll just wanted you to say you know what I have. I'M GONNA have to agree with you one hundred percent but no I I agree with you fifty percents. You got the right part right but you got the wrong wrong. Lebron celebrations rations and we're getting to the Jada here's carbon if Tokyo New Jersey got a pair of shorts over macgyver. Don Dim short going to be a regular curve Denim Lakers Jerusalem Lancashire boy. Don See hooked me. Oh snell trying to oh Adam rose seventeen you know he got the signature shooting one of the few guys they got a signature shoe somebody so the browns host the rams on Sunday night football and are three point underdogs according into Fox Bet Baker Mayfield has had a shaky start to the season with two touchdowns four interceptions and it has at least one former Brown's great concern six six time all pro Joe. Thomas said that Baker's lack of rhythm is surprising and unsettling and that the QB seem confused about several of the jets coverage is on Monday night so now joined by Fox sports NFL analyst Eric Dickerson good to have you eric so yes sir. It is good to have you ever. We're talking about that team but when it comes to the rounds what do you expect from Baker when he faces Wade Phillips Defense well one thing I expect expecting to be afraid of his Aaron Donald Don. You know when you watch breaker. he looks a little confused. You and I think Greg Williams did a really good job of that. You know the same kind of the rams have but what I do expect them to do is most trying to cut down on the penalties and not have him hold the ball because he holds the ball a long time when these long routes. It's going to be a problem. You know. That's going to give coralline time to get to and that's GONNA give Matthews time to get to him and also Aaron Donald Football skip. You mean the guy with no sacks no sacks in the playoffs. They don't mail sacks attacks against the cowboys career. I don't know but he he would've lost. You always say Okay Anyway Tony Romo. He looks so so so you know. I just feel like that the NFL as you know Shannon. It didn't take long for them to catch up you know they they watch family. In the off season. They Watch Baker. You know every player has a tendency. All of us have tendency. You know one thing I expect the browns to do is look to nick job to try to establish the run they they did that last week they start football the jets stuffed it still came back to it and read it and it was good for them and that gives Baker chance to kind of get into a rhythm but but you know if if he holds up off for a long time and it looks confused you know one thing wait Philip we'll do. We'll give him looks that. It may look like this but it's not eh. It may look like man but it's not man so that's what I expect. Do I expect us to win. That football game. I gotta go with that of course is doing and elect elect. I expect us to handle. I do see I can say that 'cause I don't have to play and gotta get hit. I expect more struggle skip. I think a lot of the has to do with expectations speculation we automatically assume you see what he did he had more touchdown than his rookie season then inequality back in NFL history in so you automatically what you know what if he played too well then and he's GonNa play Hugo play even better next year and like he says team study you and I think the thing is they're trying to push the they won't be played in. They're trying to push the ball down the field bill in sometimes you gotTA. Pat The ball in order for those guys to get down the field and maybe some of that patting the ball is called wide-scale. He might be looking for a certain player with a certain number words certain type of what we talked about that but it's still early skipping Greg Williams a lot of people now. Greg will show you a lot of different looks looks but if you can block it up like the blitz look the other night eight ore. OBGYN eighty nine he did dirk krief is in there yeah but you're gonNA have to hold holdup now because a lot of different have a lot of guys moving around and what you're thinking is not that and if you're not careful here in the back of your head with a blitz or free Russian I expect the way doesn't like the bliss a lot especially when he got guys. We have barred bill de where you didn't really have to. You got a slight one way or another and they got us. Getting in single coverage can get home. Free Way doesn't really like to win because not yet. Klay Matthew he also has filed a you also have air donald he does so he feels he can get there refresh but he will bring it because he does have competence in his back in he has whittled back there now to leave market beats but Peter's need to be very careful with Odell because Peter's is very vulnerable with the double move because the cornerback that likes to clue he likes to play off and he'll pat to read the quarterback pools up at three of ball's coming out quick in Odiele. Sit Down and take off on you and now you've got a big play over the top so he needs to be very very careful. Plan Dale Peters does but I expect way to get after Peter's against Michael Tigar regular season game you were there gets a what happened to play a good point. You gotta you gotTa Baby. You got to take my turn before I launch. Let me say I still love watching Baker. Mayfield play quarterback back in fact. I enjoy his brand quarterback better than any other. I like him more than watching deck or Tom. Brady or the quarterbacks I love because I just love the swagger and the body language in the touchdown celebrations running up the field doing Allah copters and planes and you know it's just it's just fun fun to watch because it is far esque farve like just spilling over with energy and enjoy and trash talk and he just loves to compete but so far so bad because it goes back to that third preseason game the dress rehearsal against Tampa when ten or twenty six for seventy two yards would no touchdowns in a pick and he just looked lost against Tampa and then obviously forty three to thirteen happened in their home opener thanks to the Tennessee Titans and it was a disaster man he just he kept try harder. He tried the word against hapless. Give Credit Paul Bowles balls might not have known deeper. He's overhead code when Liz coordinate you he is he can really coordinate new couldn is Arizona Day okay and yet. I'm with you about this. I fear he has fallen into the Odell trap because especially against the jets albeit against Greg Williams who who can confuse anybody in he was spoiled to try to get even with the team that let him go but but Baker was. He's holding the ball because he's looking to make hit a home run with Odell hit one early and it might have been the worst thing that could happen to them. You know for the season because it was the cat just another hood ornament Yup and yet after that he's forcing the ball to Odell and he's holding it. He's he's trying to duck and dodge in hold and escape and he you can run a little bit. He can move a little bit but after a while he's starting to take shots and he's starting to get beat up and he's not he's not a big man not like he's not built like. Cam is the Reiger quarterbacks so to me. He's got to spread the ball because last year he didn't care he was not Jarvis centric levels. You know they had a bunch. She young receivers little Calloway in name. They had a whole Ross Yeah He. You know they're pretty good. They're all pretty good and they looked very good when he was spraying the ball all over the lot so I'm a little worried because listen. This is a tall test. Your guy can really don't talk about coordinating loaded defense with a really shrewd operator calm those defensive play of course in wetted Freddie kitchens come from what what what do you coach it. We coach a lot of place the way that goes less where he he he. He knows he knows that defense. They know he knows that he knows that he knows what what what Aaron Donald can do. He knows that they need to double team that we can sit here and say well. He's not you know you say. He's not that there but Freddie kids is like hey look. This guy can hurt out quarterback. Okay what did you what did he do to Kuwaiti due to cost and parliament. I told my friend Roy Green. We played them in London. I'd say he can make a quarterback retired now. We're gonNA tell you that we do. You broke his arm. So so you know you gotta gotTa you gotTa count. Everybody who doesn't double and triple time comes out and you've got talking about office. Bland Cleveland Offensive Line is not that good that they're not that good. Ooh So the worst thing you can. Do you have a fifth line. That's not very good at holding the ball because that's taking a lot of hits and he has he has doubled the amount interception. That's down. If you take what the defense give you pretty soon. They'll start creeping up and then you'll be able to throw the ball of your hair. That shouldn't be your first order of business and try try to throw the ball over the head because they're like no. We're not gonNA give you anything cheaper deep early but it was inciteful to me in intriguing trading that the espn Gaza Monday night football kept saying that I assume they got this from Freddie. Kitchens that that Nick Chubb is the Most Valuable Player on on that offense right well. There's Baker and there's no Dell but nick shoves the MVP of the offering gotta run that that would suggest insure guys. They're just GONNA run it and they have to because you know I would say the run sets up everything because the run sets up the play action all of a sudden. You know. You can't just set those guys that you you you you. You gotta run. The Football Ryan hopes enough with a quarterback it really does it makes you quarterback job a lot easier and then all of a sudden running back job a lot easier so they've got to try to run on the football. They did it against the jets and I did a pretty good job. I think Nick Chubb is probably one of the most underrated in in general better than people think that way. He likes to play. He likes to play to run on the way to the quarterback cuffy. He really was put your quarterback but the rams and the Patriots are just two teams that have in a lot of passing touchdown so far this season so something's working for you guys can sit in a Miami didn't score any embiid burden score but three points yeah yeah. Oh absolutely they do a pretty good product touchdown this week lately. The only quarterback use had much success against Wade Phillips Stack Patrick Mahomes continues to light up scoreboard through two weeks this season in the second quarter along against the raiders homes through for two hundred seventy avenue yards and four touchdowns Mahomes as tied for the most CD passes this season at seven and leads the League with eight hundred twenty one passing yards almost one hundred more for the next closest player so Shannon got us over the on this metric mouths already locked up the MVP is a lot of football left to play gave the front runner. He's running away. He use same boat the field trying to catch up with him out at work out for four hundred and ten yards a game three and a half touchdown. He's well on his way to matching the numbers that he put up last season just when you thought it was eight to come outside just oh he's GonNa. Have somebody say you're going to have a sophomore slump sophomore slump. You don't was more plant started. What I did. Add you to talking to Jeannie talking to you. You're always talking. I won't list now look. He put up huge numbers would other Games based deep threat. I know you like Michael Gallup but Tyreek Hill at the gave de give you that and he put up those numbers numbers because what happened walking. Sammy Watkins had this huge game in Jacksonville so now raiders we're GonNa Roll covers the Sammy Watkins and now you let Robinson go crazy and then you let me looked at number. Eleven was catching another one. You forgot about me. Cohen ran for three three. He got speed to burn yeah now. They got all these that can run for three and then you got Kelsey now the defense I believe the skip. The defense is better than it was last last year elite so they're going to be in a lot of shootouts in so he's going to put up these huge numbers. I wouldn't be surprised it's within the next two or three weeks. He has a five hundred yard game. That's coming. That's coming I was I was Kinda. Hoping the rate is like score so that way because I think he got he hitter with no look again to overthrow Vietnam then you pose yeah yeah. You should lay off like it's got to go with like an easy easy bucket bucket you you. Can you explain what he did like which part in that game Sunday he throws for two seventy eight and four touchdowns in the second quarter and then the rest of the game. He was kind of like ordinary. We haven't done damage over the game. He threw for one sixty five not bad but not update pre game. I've Seen Prescott playing tie games for one sixty five day none of my business. I'm sorry I I shouldn't mean brought in touch you obviously. Dak Prescott is right in the middle of this. Mvp Race so far now maybe that will tail off because his quarterback and coach and play caller. They don't play that way okay. This is a balanced attack in Dallas and that's why Dallas is going to win so many games and not gonNA. I'm sure you if Zeke Elliott because remember when they had a Kareem Hunt Kareem Hunt led the League in rushing the top two or three last year when he got suspended didn't well. This is what it calls for. We Got Shady McCoy McCoy lesean McCoy. He's not the McCoy that he was in Philly or if I am Buffalo. Yep Williams is a a very versatile dual threat but he's not running Kareem. Hunt so sometimes you have to do look. We got the guy this guy right here. This is what you do see when you got a quarterback like that. You don't play fifty million running bank. Tom Brady got paid a million dollar running back home before I get to the guts to this discussion. Quick point of order. I did save before the year started. I thought Ben Rothlisberger would be a dark horse. MVP candidate yeah he just suffered the weirdest quarterback quarterback injury I have ever heard I'm pretty sure even though they're not being specific he's having Tommy John Surgery and quarterbacks. Don't have Tommy John Injuries where you tear a ligament in your elbow right right but doesn't it sound like that's what happened. I think he tore it in late in training camp because that guy I saw at New England on opening Sunday night I told you the next day I said I can't recognize him. He couldn't throw it ten yards. It looked like peyton manning coming off the neck problems especially last year when he ended up going to the bench yeah right that guy well that's been looked like at New England and then they said he tried to practice it just then he couldn't practice and then he goes out there against Seattle and they did lead tend to seven and a half time when he went out just before halftime but he just couldn't throw it anymore and so now he's got to have reattach ligament and he's gone for the year okay so he's out and that leaves yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah that's another possible candidate and that brings us to the guy you still will give credit tune. It's the guy up in foxborough and he's still standing at age forty two and he's off to one of his best starts of his career home got yes he is. He's did you even ask that. Blasphemous question skill seriously get right now the whole thing going okay well. He might be the most entertaining go. He's like one man globetrotter. Beth Eh Meadow lark limited right if you're the best thing going right now you know that where I do not know that because the game the name of the game is winning and nobody can win like that guy in Foxborough if ab does stay eligible for the whole year he's going to be right in the middle of MVP. Guess what she coming back. tyreek hill coming back okay. You got four guys outside. Okay Korea drivers. Truth is both Kansas City in New England play incredibly easy Bhai. NFL Standards Schedules. You can't tell me Kansas City. Schedule isn't just about Azizi as new okay so they do have Baltimore this Sunday. It's at home didn't they have Green Bay at home and they have Minnesota at home. They can win those games and late in the year very late. They have to go to Chicago on December twenty second but the key game the game of probably two unbeaten teams. If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly will occur on December the eighth in Foxborough. It's now scheduled for four twenty-five Kick Eastern time and I think we're going to have undefeated undefeated chiefs visiting undefeated patriots and not only will homefield advantage be on the line for the postseason but in DP I think will be up for grabs grab that night and all I know is the quarterback you still give credit to somehow he outplayed homeboy twice skew look look at the numbers the number say otherwise the fourth quarter he put on at Foxboro Sunday night game at home with the game tied. Did he take each game game in Foxboro and Tom. Brady came back and got the game winning field goal okay. Mahal boy ahead to lead when he left to feel. Tom Brady Win tied the game in regulation and won in overtime. Tom Brady threw two picks was rowboat. Tom Throw four in the fourth quarter along one thirty homeboy doing the game who who won that game helping out. We'll see see as you know. I don't know I don't Qb. Are there's not that that Tom Brady played him know his team would but just because ut wind doesn't mean you outplay the Guy who owned the AFC championship game who who took over the over time and converted three straight third intense that is my homeland safety should have been he left the field and who did this what you do to me. We talked about. Tom Brady when Tom Brady left feeling. If you say had a fourteen league that what you told me we're Tom. Aubrey left the field a second time against ally they had to leave. That's what you told me so what happened. All I know is Tom. Brady just keeps winning super bowl so he's now six six out of nine super bowls that he's one and this kid in Kansas City. He's got a chance to work chance and he's come nowhere. He's he's done nothing yet. As he played in the Super Bowl any played crowning the best quarterback that year he can throw the best no look at he's. Tom Would never even think about good women just turned twenty four already got an MVP on all right and he's got how many trophies give demand. This is only a third year okay well so oh because it's so because Brady one in the second year anybody that didn't win on the set of your trash so let's see who's four and Qbr so far OATS OATS Tom Brady I'll give you this homeboy is third and Qbr. I Dak Prescott. We knew that okay who I the yards does like you say the fact that he's got all that you know what he's got on his Andy Reid. You got killing more. Remember that quote in the athletic about Andy Reid. He's got that guy what was that guy's name who played Forum Village Hall of Fame Right Donovan Dirt Delving. Low blows gives you though well okay but it's there's some truth to it where Andy Reid went and found this kid in traded up to get this kid so he's going to try try to make him the envy him. You Go win a super bowl with this kid. I say no this is now you see this offense could be when they had checked down. Alex and and checking the ball down okay. Hey join the ticket down. He tried to hold him the ball of year. Yup and he's turned into a caricature. I'm left handed behind his back act in no look who got more in more into substance that has got a whole boy who got one. Oh how horrible gas and it wouldn't ax fall eh to through it. Okay here we ride between the one and eight is the cat times. You have to escape rush and he got a real real. Fury Pass rush home with that no look to run around. I give you this. He's far more entertaining. If that's what you WANNA watch better he's he's got a flying circus. He's got Andy Reid. The let me read is the ringmaster and go around horizon bright up and see paying always stolen no look three weeks z like that. Shannon bill quarterback right now hottest AIN'T GONNA homework all paid back to back. MVP since since peyton manning and about the truth is he's all you got on this. Show yeah harsh skin. They got all these all said like you say hold on you. Just say we got a long way to go you already celebrate like the cowboy cowboys the NFC Eddie them cowboys who likes my chances of winning five more cases of diet do because the cowboys are going to make the playoffs in Shannon says no they will not make the point. We'll see yeah. HAVE THEY OFFICIALLY CLINCH The playoff. Let's go home and stick pins in your old. Get them her ex man. I and I don't mean sooner or later that will shooting started. You gotta you gotTa come down. Mhm You gotTa Hewlett Star Right now. I'll be mind a happy birthday to homeboy is his birthday today the whole twitter already got MVP. He's Virgo Sky. I asked what makes all the world today we'll give you maybe he might life surely twenty six. He's going to get multiple trophies. We got a lot more. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny tapped. Join US again at nine thirty A._M. 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"Hey it's all happening. Mason Ireland thereafter the rams beat Cleveland in Cleveland dominating night for the defense and joining us right now is Sam Monson from pro football focus with the breakdown of the Game Hey saying how are you man going good. How `Bout you pretty good sample that we disagree Mason. I disagree degree on on how the rams look last night. I actually was pretty high on them. Particularly I thought that jerk off found Cooper Cup and found Brandin cooks a total of twenty two times. How did those guys all great out that guys like Gough Cup Cooks Dean General General the Ram offense Goo good or bad last night. Yeah I mean it was it was a bit of a mixed bag. I think the browns brought a really good defensive game plan and that's because because it's not they're not the first team to come up with that game plan that is clearly the methodology to slowing down the rams offense and it has been going back to late last season. Finally teams have started to figure that out and they're coming with a game plan that the rams haven't necessarily managed to come up with a good answer to but but I think you're right. I think you know the Jared Goff Cooper Cup in particular. That connection was really strong. The big concern starting to develop over this this offense is is the offensive line is not anything like as good as it's been in the past couple of seasons. you know the the scheme is definitely significantly better than it was. When Jeff Jeff Fisher was the head coach and the offensive line was a real problem then but it's it's starting to look bad enough. That could be the thing that holds bank this offense overall for all because that group has not been playing well in particular. You know the new pieces of really been struggling so I think it's time to start to get a little a bit concerned about that. Group yeah the new pieces as you said Joe note boom and Brian Allen then last night Austin by through a returning veteran he was out because of an ankle sprain. Djamil Debbie started and I it looked to me like Debbie at a bad game. He got flagged for illegal procedure a a couple of times in that game last night. Tell me about the grades for that offensive line. Yeah I mean almost to a man it was it was pretty ugly. I think no boom has now graded badly for three consecutive games. I think we're starting to see Andrew. Whitworth finally starts to look like a guy that's approaching forty years old and the offensive line when Woodworth obviously has been the best performer for years but now he's starting to look like he's going to struggle this year. I don't know how much of that is because of the situation inside him and you know it's it's not as good the guys around him aren't as good as they've been in the past and that's having a knock on thank but yeah there aren't many pieces the offensive line now that are looking like they're going to great consistently even above average which has to be concerned when you look look at the rim defense which is really why they won that game last night. I know Aaron Donald. Only had one sack Sam but it seemed to me that he was in Baker Mayfield's face the entire night chasing him out of the pocket and making him hurry. I you know play Mathews. He's had four sacks for the rams here. He's he's tied for third in sacks in the NFL but to me. It's Aaron Donald Making that go how does Aaron Donald Great out after a game like that when I know we only had one sack yeah absolutely and that's why pf we've been saying that they're not the best way to measure pass rush. You know obviously the thing that everybody is trying to achieve on those pass rushing snaps their what you're shooting for but it's just not a reliable measure because you people add Astros you. You get pressure far more often than they get. Thanks a lot of the times the pressure can be the thing that rex the play and the guy that gets the sank is just the person cleaning up at the end of it so oh. Aaron Donald Luna's one sang for the year but he has been consistently generating pressure the same way he has been every other season. He hasn't taken a significant step bank at all the way that you might think if you were just judging by sank so Aaron Donald remains absolute wrecking ball in the interior of this defensive line nine. We saw it all the way through the game last night you know. NBC were excellent at highlighting these Aaron Donald plays where he's just in the backfield in an instant and sometimes it's other players that are reaping rewards that pressure you're listening to Caspian. Los Angeles San Monson pro football focus is with us so I've got the grades for the game last last night. I get the five best grades the Rams Aaron Donald Cooper Cup Brandin Cooks John Johnson the third who led the team in tackles last night and then Todd Gurley is fifth he grades out of Seventy two point seven at fourteen Russia's for forty three yards I don't think he's got the same explosiveness. We've seen the last couple of years. Why does he great out so high yeah and I think a lot of it is he won't necessarily look that way either when you just look at the numbers because everybody's looking for those huge under plus yard games the the incredible statistics we've seen from him but the PSA grades try and distill what the running back himself does not necessarily what the overall offense and allows him to produce in terms of yard. Sometimes these guys can have hundred yard games because the blocking was so good at opened up these giant holes and when you look at early last this year that's what we were dealing with. We're dealing with an offensive line. That was just blowing. People out of the water and girly didn't have to do an awful lot to get a lot of yardage and a lot of those touchdowns this year he's having to work for. He's having to answer to earn his own yardage. do a lot more to make the plays so it's so you're going to see some games like that where it doesn't look looks like he's having that much success but he's actually making a lot happen. Whether it's I'm getting skinny through the whole getting yards after contact whether it's making people oh miss and he can add every last bit of advantage. He can get like we said before. The offensive line is struggling so if anything it's now causing him problems not being being the reason that he's having success and that's really why it's great as high that he's not working against his own offensive line and having some success in spite of we're talking to Sam Monson from pro football focus salmon his team great every player in every game that gets played in the NFL so Sama Raider Fan. They were awful in Minnesota. The game was never competitive in a game like that. Does anybody great out well or when a team team gets. Its Butt kicked like the raiders did. Does everyone pretty much. GET SEASON DIS for the game yeah. Almost everybody graded badly in that Game Darren Waller. Are there tight end is he graded pretty well. He's a fascinating story because he was this kind of big awkward wide receiver playing at Georgia tech in that triple triple option offense that barely ever pass the ball and took a shot a plane wide receiver in the NFL never really panned out because of that but suddenly you move him too tight tight end and he's got some athleticism for that position you know he's a over an overseas wide receiver but if you move that guy tight end suddenly it looks like they found a place where we can actually be legitimate part of that offense but yeah pretty much down our and everybody else fat ranch fan. We've been following the forty niners they are undefeated haven't had a chance to look at a much. How good are they yeah. It's interesting. I honestly don't know if we know that yet. they're one of the more intriguing teams because of the people they've played because of the way some of these games have been unfolding. You know they turn the ball over five times yesterday three of them in the Red Joan some of it was bad luck. Jimmy Garoppolo didn't play at all but THEY THEY WANNA game where that happened. That just barely ever happens and now is because the steelers are starting Mason Rudolph who himself play terribly so. I don't know that we know yet what the forty niners are. There's a lot of talent on the roster. The pieces are in place. They've got some weaponry on offense even if it isn't necessarily at wide receiver where everybody else wants their their top players you know they've got an incredible full. Bank can be dynamic mismatch weapon. They've got an incredible tight end. That could be a mismatch weapon so yeah there were interesting team but I think it's GonNa take a few more weeks until we figure out just how good they are. Sam Lesson for me in general who grades out better as a team New England or Kansas City well yeah they go back and forth you know the the New England patriots have this phenomenal defense now statistics. They're putting up are actually incredible. They might be the best defense and all the football this year and that she offense is virtually unstoppable incredible Patrick Mahomes. Everybody talked about how oh he was going to regress because he's gone the other way yards right 'cause throwing for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns is just not sustainable but he's on pace for six thousand yards and more than fifty touchdowns this year so yeah. I think they're the two best teams in the NFL and unless something dramatic happens they're probably GonNa Square off not just late in the season but in the AFC championship game again and I suspect they'll be the two highest grade teams at pf when they do that all right hey sam thank you very much for coming on and we appreciate it as always any any time all right there. Sam Monson pro football focus. I'm still amazed variable to do that. Great every single player in every single game every single week well he was right. NBC. He did a good job last night of highlighting. Just how disruptive and Donald can be bigger. Mayfield is short. He's like six feet tall at force for an NFL quarterback is short and Aaron. Donald was so in the backfield on so many plays that Baker Mayfield had to run out of there and when he ran out of there he kept running into Clay Klay Matthew so it seems to me that if you've got one guy then makes it hard to run up the middle and terrorizes your quarterback that he's which again mace why I was so dead set against the Raiders Trading Khalil Mack because that one guy can make a ton of difference. I think Aaron Donald might be the best player in the NFL. I really do either him or Mahomes. A lot of people think Aaron Donald is it and by the way yeah you you mentioned. NBC Chris Collins Worth for me is the best analyst Working Games today. I always amazed on how can like before they've even shown are- play us. He'll say something like that guy. He just took the back of his helmet and moved it left right and you'll come back in the replay there. It is after another papal. Does a great job is really really good. by the way next Thursday will be next. Thursday will be Rams Canola Week from Thursday right next next Sunday rams play Tampa Bay. This is Sunday October third the following Thursday so not this Thursday but the the third after that a week from Thursday October third. That'd be a huge day in Los Angeles the Rams will play the sea hawks in Seattle football aw and we think it's going to be game one of the dodgers Klay. It's going to be the MLB playoff schedule is out if you're a dodger fan the home games and the ADS will be Thursday and Friday next week. So what do you do Steve Mason member of the Ramle when when the rams are on live at at five o'clock and the dodgers figure to be on at five o'clock playing dodger stadium and you like to go to those games in person. Do you abandon your rams. Do you set up two. TV's how do you play. We won't be working right the RAM game. You can either go to the dodger game on definitely going to. I'm going to dodger game and I'm listening to the RAMS RAMPS game. How about that little transistor radio. Now you just grab your phone. You can watch the game on your phone calls. I can watch the game on my phone yeah. That's what I do but I'm definitely going to the dodgers. if we think it'll be against either Milwaukee or Washington it's going to be against Milwaukee Washington the winner of the NFL playoff play in game and then game two would be Friday right up game Friday and then which means Saturday's travel day and Sunday which is NFL football would be game three yeah so that'll be convenient well but but no it actually works out because he says Oh plan that's correct right so you can devote your attention to the dodgers yeah which they it could either that could be a night where they could sweep series or get swept. I don't think either will happen. Get swept. I don't think he'd use those words again. Well I mean I'M I. I think there are favorites to go to the world series. I mean they're going to be the best team in the National League. It's just a matter of if they can get through the super team John. There are super team. I buster call us and we says there are three Super Teams in Major League Baseball. We only win. We don't have to stores and data. We don't have to go through a super team to get back to the correct what Greg where thinks constraining with best overall record. It's it's the dodgers have won one hundred games back there to back of both the back of Houston Houston Houston and the Yankees are not. They're not to to two games back of of the Yankees to a and so truly three Tiebreaker Yankees are one or two and fifty five the ashes ashes are one or two hundred fifty four the dodgers are one hundred and fifty-six right so I guess it's a game and a half behind the the Yankees and the browser ninety six and sixty one so we're not touching them. We're not catching. It's surely to say that the dodgers don't aren't playing world leaders here. The giants stink and who do they play. I The padres hydrates for three and then giants yeah. That's he's pretty much taylormade. You say that the giants stink but playing the giants in San Francisco is never easy. They lose an up in San Francisco all the time. It doesn't matter that we could see Madison Bumgarner for the final time as a giant. If they beat up on Madison Bumgarner they do but I bring him on. There's just so we'll send maximum. See to the plate and you can you tell them to go out in the water and get it is significance by the way it'll be. Bruce boches final game as manager and probably Madison bumgarner spinal start as a San Francisco go giant unbelievable stat about Bruce Bochy the other day okay. I never knew my favorite player in the history of baseball is Nolan in Ryan. Yes I thought he knew everything about Nolan Ryan until I read this Nolan Ryan in his entire twenty plus year career career where he had seven no hitters in led the rams gave up one walk off homer wow and it was too Bruce Bucci. That's crazy. He's the only one to ever have hit a walk off home. Run Against Nolan right just Kinda cool yup also interesting using tidbit about BACCI born in Paris. Somebody is that right yeah like his parents were over. There does seem for a friends even some not so not Parisian. Yeah I gotTA. Look I know the Nolan Ryan thinks draw. Look up the other right here. It's BOUSSAC foray France yeah so he was born in phrase born in France. They feel like he was probably if feels like he was just born in my in the minor leagues just but just started started at single Zee TV reporter in San and Yego. He was the third base coach for the padres eventually would get promoted to manager and then when you took them to the world series and then won three world series of the giants. He's locked to go to the hall of fame. Yep One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. You know just a baseball lifer super smart really fun and wonder what he's going to do you. You had some health problems last year so maybe just wants to enjoy the rest of his life but he that guy's been going to spring training for fifty years. Now I know what the Vin scully of baseball manager's Day grind coming up next for you. There is something happening on October. The eleventh that that I am dreading okay that's coming up next for you Mason and Ireland. ESPN LA Hey tearing up BAFTA noon Dr Mason and Ireland Espn La they're doing it again at the Harris Resort Southern California if you want a chance for two nights day at the harrahs resort so cow with three buddies ladies five hundred bucks and spending cash transportation to and from your place just text the word four zero seven zero five text funner E. R. Two four zero zero seven zero five for a chance to win spend a weekend watching college pro football from Harrah's resort Harris resorts so cow kicking off a golden age of fun go to Harris Ocal to learn how Mayor Rob Riggle rose to power in funner California one entry per person standard text messaging rates apply Rams Rams one yesterday. There are three no one Friday. They're three and one. UCLA is one in three but had an unbelievable win win so you're talking about a lot about that. So what are you worried about on October eleventh so October the eleventh we're doing a thing at commerce casino and I am going tend to be roasted. Was You know I have been roasted. I know can help you. I remember you hosted my. I have a role in your roast. Nobody's talking about that. We we have talked about. I'm coming in and willing to do any roasting. You're one of the most notable no is not one of the roasters. I mean you get to roast. Everybody Buddy essentially right. You're the roast master okay so I'm going for Mason what he did for my wreck guy that introduces everybody and which is which is great. I actually I'll tell you I everybody ripped me. I had fun. I liked it sensitive. My true feelings you are more sensitive than me yeah but the the reason we did it with mine. was there was a big charity component. We just doing this to make money. I wanted to the real reason why Mason wanted it but that's actually know they were looking for something. Commerce Commerce Casino. It'll be fun. It'd be hard who are the official roaster so the official roasters are John is going to be the roast master the Cayman Eski brothers others who were excellent at John. They killed both Andy and Brian Ramona Ramona. Momo is going to be doing struggled at her roasting. Hopefully it'd be better for you sue Kalinski. She'll be crazy so and last one is the big one yeah. I don't know if we should just tell it out. Loud yeah sure we want people to Sir Table. We're going to start doing this tomorrow. Tomorrow's the Big Day to actually find out all the details and then are we letting fans attended or no. Yes and you can find out how a so. OJ Jackson Juniors OCE yeah. You'll enjoy it. It's actually fun if you go into it. Just knowing you're GONNA you're gonNA take mom mm-hmm when my mom my mom came to mind Yeah Donna Common Come Stepdad Leo come you know the whole gang should step badly. Oh I said Stepdad Not Stepdad. Anglo could very easily workaday working in you got a great story about Steve's mom screwing around with him so at least that that means she'll be excited about Donna's Great Yeah Yeah No. That'll be fun. I wouldn't even worry about it but part of the thing is you just gotta go into it with the attitude that it will. You'll be unembarrassed -able which I've learned from Michael Thompson Michael Thompson is unimpressed shameless. Yes which brings me to the fact that it got to me that you two were making fun of my dancing at the concert telling you you would never dancing okay. I don't no it's ridiculous now here. I'm GonNa tell you something raise the connection can can I tell you something yeah then took it easy aw I may have broken out the dice sprinkler no one this is all going. It was a two words that tours. You don't want to hear if you're John. Ireland are open bar which is bar that think think bots so proud of Michael. They made a fortune hurricane relief for the Bahamas Dave. This was the one last year in San Francisco is good. This was stupendous and clay was great great and it was Allah black who who is. I told him afterwards man whenever he's in concert. I'm going he was he was great. Got Your hands in the air as the overbites. Did you have the white man. I can't imagine that I didn't have veteran and I was singing live. I mean you've been you've been to concerts acting very much me three or four whiskies in out of context. I think we should have mason in Ireland dance off all yes. How do the Carlton Thread -able idea credible idea. You're in it. I'm actually a good dancer. Oh here. We might incorporate this in the roast. It may come up. Just let you know but if you ever ever get a chance. Seattle black you should go yeah and then Friday was golf. It was all day golf and I. I didn't think I was going to be able to stay. I basically stayed up all night and a until I basically didn't know if I was going to be able to make it through the game but I thought the. USC Game was incredibly exciting. I matter of fact team. You have have a feeling doing the Utah was gonNA come back and win it I did it seem like momentum head swell. They spent rate until he threw the pack. They spent so much time on the Trojan side of the field. I mean they you know you realize. Utah did not have a three and out in that Game Utah did did not have a three and out move. They move the football on every possession so it was it was scary to the end but but the trojans look great. I mean if you had you at three in one this year. You were probably the only one because that's scheduled looked really hard and now it gets tougher. They go at Washington at Notre Dame and Notre Dame played well. They lost Georgia hung in there. So That's in that thing beats notre dame then they all of a sudden become like maybe maybe going to the road then then. They're a top ten team. If they win their next two games there are top ten teams right. I think the Utah loss probably not utilize the Byu lost US probably keeps them out of the national the play vigor to the rose bowl and loss team. CEO Clay Clay. I'm telling you you've got in by the way you wonder how good that offenses offenses they seem to be able to plug any quarterback in and it works so Graham Harrell's onto something yeah he really is because they've had three different quarterbacks and they all just pile up yard. If they're five and one I would I would say. It's going to be hard to deny clay Helton. Another season depends on the new bosses anytime you get a new one thing. I've learned over the years anytime you get a new boss. Everybody is everybody gets hot because they all want to bring in their own but it's hard to deny when this new boss is Clay Hilton is impossible will not to like as a guy I mean when you meet with him and you see what he focuses on and say because every conversation we have starts with now. I really liked clay. Yeah I really do you know anybody who doesn't like clay like even like I know people that are mad at him for the five and seven season but nobody should not like him. He's a really nice guy and and make like I know people who didn't like my carrot didn't like Lynn Swann like Sark Lane. Yeah everybody like peak. Everybody like but the lanes are. Claes more like so. You know it's impossible not to like yeah. Isn't he. Just waiting every loss anytime there's a loss he's basically lost. His job isn't every game winner die for him well. That's what. Mason texted me when they lost to Byu Betty. Now you're now. You're over it. Okay if you're that coach if you're the coach is under the presumption of you lose. Does your out at the end of the year. Now at one time doesn't mean you're out depends not if you win. The thing is if you if you would have told me if you would have said to me even two years ago could a US football coach survive a five and seven season. I would say zero. I'd bet my house zero chance chance you cannot be five and seven. USC and keep your job ever and he did if he goes this guy pay be Lazarus. If he goes a ride and jeans. He's like he can rise from the fire. He goes ten and two and goes to the Rosebowl. It becomes very difficult to fire Clay Hilton. How would you feel about Graham Harrell as head coach so young you know what I see so if they go ten and two Graham Harrell would probably get a head coaching job somewhere. That's the problem is it's working if they tend to work way the offense obviously works with any quarter but it was the defense came up big in the Utah game right right so I mean they're doing something right. Co Clay is pushing all the right over head coach if there if they are tend to you cannot get rid of clay. I'm being being very optimistic. There's a lot of football. They've got Washington at Washington Friday night and then they've got at Notre Dame but if they have three losses in two weeks exactly but if they get get to ten and two and win the Roosevelt that's that's a savior job. Season that is regardless. ooh bosses money. Football starts in about forty five minutes. Fasttrack Trek starts in twenty minutes. We got a lot of stuff going Mason Ireland. ESPN LA rams Monday reaction Monday rams rams went another game last night. The three zero rams are now third best in the League in total defense. Only the Patriots and the niners have been better Aaron. Donald led the way from forty a pass rushing snappy snaps he racked up a sack and seven hurries averaging a pressure once every five pass rushing snaps he was all over Baker Mayfield last night and one thing that that helped with was once they got Mayfield out of the pocket yeah once they got to increase contract made reference to this several times during the telecast when he got rid of the ball in the first two and a half seconds they had success but if the past rich disrupted that and he had to run around they had almost no success he he couldn't get to his people and that's how the game ended when John Johnson had an interception at the end of the game. I saw you know the thing that I'm I'm stunned by yeah well first of all the fourth and nine name call where they went from Ropley and they call it a draw against a top three. NFL Defenders Freddie kitchen set about what happened on the fourth and nine nine call bad call. Did you want that play call. Yes I wanted that blackout. It just didn't work as bad call it's a bad calls last night yeah and at the end of the game it made no sense it reminds me of at the end of the USC Texas Game Yup Vince Young scored and people forget that Texas had or a UC had a little under two minutes to to go back down the other way and either title game or go ahead and there was a key fourth in one and they didn't even have Reggie Bush on the field they had lend in the Backfield by himself. If you put Reggie Bush back there even put him in motion you take away part of the defense they have to have to and Dan didn't even put them in the game and lane and Sark afterwards just said Yeah. We screwed that up well. That's probably an indicator that you're not ready yet. Freddie kitchens the back strain him mm-hmm is that John Dorsey who hired him is a guy who likes to be in charge of everything so Freddie Kitchens is a guy he can control and but he he seemed just hopelessly overmatched and to do things like go for it on fourth and nine and then run a draw play or have four plays first and goal on the four and not have Nick Chubb. You're running back on the field. When you've got three months on May not only did they not run it. Yeah they ran and no no running backs in the backfield right. They were they were spread out okay so you're spread out and you're like okay that means you're. GonNa have to cover all those guys. Odell Beckham is probably GonNa get single coverage. They didn't target Odell Beckham one time. The Rams may cut a break there but I I don't mean to take away from what the rams did. If you look at that schedule at Hat Charlotte home against New Orleans at Cleveland that's a pretty tough opening stretch and now they're three now. Yeah they've taken run. They've not played their best football yet right and and really quiet night for Todd Gurley fourteen carries forty three yards. He was targeted once in the passing game this way man. We thought that he would get fifteen to twenty touches. That's fifteen. They were just not affective touches three point one yards per carry in that game last night. He's lacks the explosiveness we saw early last year in his career but I think that if if Cooper Cup and Brandin cooks continue to put numbers up like that then eventually they will soften up the defense and girly early can get back to what he was doing in the Charlotte game except it's got to be the other way around right what what the rams have always done. Effectively is in play action last night because Todd Gurley never got gone. The play action didn't have credibility and actually jared Goff who's always been great employee action through both of his interceptions in play action. Shen which is that's. That's been his bread and butter yeah last interception. The woman two minutes to go is literally if he threw it into coverage and you know I thought they would have been better off putting and playing field position there but they got away with it and and when gough had to make big throws he was able to do it. I mean he's able to find Cooper Cup twice ice near the goal line and and so I think if you're rams fan you breathe a sigh of relief. I think you're going to foreign oh when Tampa Bay roles in this weekend and then you play the niners right yeah no then Seattle on the Thursday night at Seattle and then the niners that was a brutal loss for Seattle. Yeah was because now the niners and the rams are both undefeated. Tell you what I got to see some of that Kansas City game mm yesterday. There's something else I'm telling you. Patrick Mahomes is in a class of his own. He is the I mean you. You asked me what quarterback quarterback I WANNA start my team with. Its Patrick Mahomes. He's young. He's only a little over a year experience now. He's already past ten thousand yards for this year. he is on pace for six thousand yards. I think if you asked any educated football fan somebody who watches the Games every week. Yep If you had open free agency from from every player in the league and you had the first pick that it is a two horse race. That's two names. It's either Aaron Donald or Patrick Mahomes. I don't think anybody else even goes into the conversation. If you WANNA put Aaron Rodgers in because he's won the Super Bowl and mahomes hasn't or if you want to put Tom Brady in there. You're only getting a couple of years Brady. Patrick Mahomes is twenty four years old Aaron. Donald I think is twenty eight Yep. That's those are the those are the the two in Khalil Mack. WHO's playing tonight would be in the top? Five fasttrack is coming up for you in ten minutes coming up next a stunning game stunning running game at the police on Saturday night. John encountered him out. I went to bed. That's lazarus forty eight seventeen chip Kelly's Lazarus Orissa forty nine seventeen done out. I saw this movie if you need a great suit and everybody needs at least one great suit. There's no reason to have one. That's Baggie or doesn't fit your right or look sloppy when you can get one made-to-measure from Indochino now Indochino isn't your typical menswear place they suits and shirts and blazers outerwear every piece has made to your exact measurements for a great fit and you also get to be a designer you get to pick the lapel all and the jacket lining. I've got a jacket. That's got red white and blue on the inside. 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UCLA was down by thirty two points and they were down. I'm forty nine to seventeen and they just roared back and somehow won the game in regulation. Yep that which was it's stunning and you know last week. We debated whether or not chip. Kelly should get another season at USC UCLA A UCLA and John. You're dead set against it. I don't know what you're talking about. I've been there. I've been in chip. Kelly been more chip all the time. Now I thought chip Kelly and still think that if they go back to the way they played in the first three games chip could be in trouble but that completely flipped the script. That was a flash of what could be that was a look at what the future might be and. I don't think there's any way chip. Kelly doesn't first of all. I think they're going to win at least five games this year. I think that's sie lay a five wins. I don't take that I mean they still have to play cow. WHO's in the top. Twenty Five hasn't really played anybody. Nobody no beat no those Arizona State now. I don't know maybe Yeah Arizona State. Maybe a paper tiger they got Arizona next. They've got Oregon State after that Stanford Terrible Stanford team terrible cannot beat Stanford ever and I think they win at Stanford. I don't I don't think they've ever damnest Stanford's getting shredded so think about this during Thompson Robinson. He's been the UCLA quarterback and has been struggling all season. Yup through threw for five hundred sixty four total yards actually through Iran for five energy for seven touchdowns. Ucla scored fifty points points in the second half after totaling forty two in the first series and game every fast now right. It's twenty nine hundred. You've got to have the fast you gotTa have it immediately. You don't give it time to to bake you. Don't get a time you don't give it time to to come together and so many people were and I you know I'm not Outta. Ucla Fan but so many people were throwing dirt on the grave of Chip Kelly this this last week and the reality is you don't know anything anything in season to you. You just don't you don't know where you're going to be and got a sophomore quarterback. he started started started to look like the old organ offense on Saturday night and you saw a glimpse of what could be what might happen in the future wait and brought this up earlier if you're running the defense for either one of those teams yeah. What do you do when the defense just stops it was they can't stop any almost almost like the offense was contagious. They averaged the two teams averaged over nine yards per play. Every play on average went for nine yards in that game there was there was no defense but it was like the offense was contagious all right so I get my Lisa's brother lives in quarterlane which is about forty five minutes from pullman yes so he sends me a picture of my niece. This is Bate Niece Sophie who I got senator. Ucla sweatshirt years ago so she they were going to the game and so they were in colors and my response to Charlie. I said Nice patellar. Washington state is a nineteen point favorite. She May WanNa bring something red for the second half his responsible as she has is a red puffer jacket to cover it up so she put the Red Jacket on when it was mad she that thing was thrown over the side of the stamp. Damn the end and I came started at seven thirty. Yes it was the ESPN national ended after midnight. Yeah Yeah and it after midnight date just crazy. Maybe the craziest. UCLA game of all time and by the way USC comes up with a big win over Utah on Friday night they lost keyed in Slovak's right it from the jump in Matt Fink who at one point was going to transfer this summer he was in the transfer portal and it sounds weird. He was in the transfer portal. It actually actually sounds like something from star trek he's in the transfer portal and he was. GonNa go to Illinois and somehow drifted back out of it and wound up staying at USC and led them to victory Friday night and I can't tell you how many times that that works out the other way that a kid elects to stay and never get his Cheshire so to see a kid like that. Get an opportunity and then throw for three hundred fifty. One yards against Utah Nationally ranked team good for him man. I would get to play again this week. Do If if you're Jack Sears who is in the transport of no idea where he's gone. He hasn't gone anywhere yet. He can still go back. Just because you're in the portal doesn't mean you're gone on right and Klay has said that he would welcome him back right and now you don't do you even know who the backup quarterback Matt Fink at this. I do to walk because I know that I just somebody told want me to walk on only because I looked it up. It's a it's a kid who is a backup safety name. Brandon purdue right so if you're just just if you're verse Brandon Purdue and the way that these quarterbacks are just dropping at USC at both college and Pro Robin Yeah if Jack Sears. Don't you go back to you I don't I I've always said this that if I was a quarterback and I lost a quarterback battle. I would probably go into the transfer. That's reporter. I just sitting on the sidelines holding a clipboard for four years yeah. I know you're not in the fourth year not the fourth option anymore. You're the the second one now. You're the backup quarterback yeah what happens what happens. Jt Daniels and cadence love is combat but see. That's why I think the Modern Day Kit transferred. That's why bryce young flipped US commitment to Alabama 'cause he looks over there. He sees okay. They're going to J. Daniels. they're. GonNa have keyed-in. Slow Visser's missiles true freshman and and Matt Fink is there too and he's lighting it up. He looks over there. He says you know what my better chance to play Alabama. I don't blame them yeah. I don't I don't blame but I'm not sure he's GonNa play it. Alabama no guarantee and now they're a but you've got to do what's right for you like mad. Castle stayed and backed up was it. Carson Palmer went in and had a nice career in the NFL so maybe saving himself getting hit and college for the NFL. I Ah for me personally. I wouldn't want to be on the sidelines at might trade probably go someplace. I would play by the way Keaton slowest did take a shot in the head on that game on Friday and he he there's no word he's in concussion protocol. there will be furthered tomorrow from Clay Hamilton. I listened to a podcast with Ryan Abraham He. He thinks that we should plan on seeing Matt Fink again Saturday at Washington. You saw what happened to keep slows. We were watching had his head banged on the ground that guy that guy that fell on him look like he was about three hundred and fifty pounds right but then he tried to stand up and he immediately landed face first back on the ground he shouldn't comeback. I'm back for a little while does head problem. They've got they've got a protocol that they're going to go through again. I Ryan says expect not think I would. I would also expect that can't think after looking at for a while though I mean a couple of weeks probably to come back after one week. You'd think I'm not a I didn't realize you were neuro. No Yeah yes you should yeah no. I'm not I can't diagnose stuff just by TV like some people okay some people John can apparently diagnose stuff just by watching it on TV of Cool Greg Camp Greg King pro football doesn't all-time sure sure he us code updates for is fast track Mason Ireland E._S._p._N. L._A.

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The Sedano Show (HR 1):The NBA to Walt Disney World

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The Sedano Show (HR 1):The NBA to Walt Disney World

"Today new problems need new thinking with. Ibm retailers are turning to the cloud to restock shelves more quickly teachers working with ai to rethink the classroom. Let's put smart to work see how. Ibm helping IBM DOT COM Slash Cova. Nineteen what's up? Sodano with you here on seven ten. Espn presented by progressive. Insurance guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. We got a lot of guests for you Josh Kelley. Ucla running back drafted by the chargers at ten thirty at eleven. Our BUDDY JEFF. Passan will stop by. We will find out if his son can roll his. R's a little better and we'll find out what the hell is going on with Major League baseball in these Mega Mega Mega Division. We'll get to all that is GONNA stop by eleven thirty. He and I are going to have some fun talking about the NBA and speaking of the NBA. We've got a couple of things so remember the other day when we were talking about the draft after the dry maybe the day of the day before whatever and even the day after I was telling you that it was smokescreen season heading into the draft. It's why I didn't spend a ton of time all the rumors and whatnot. Because I just didn't want to bog you down. Because an essence it becomes super confusing when there's conflicting reports about this about that. I mean we had thom. Tillis go on the other day right. The chargers general manager two days ago and there was a report about the chargers and dolphins colluding. It was just insane. So sometimes there's going to be situations where people who work in the media who aren't as media savvy who haven't been around long who aren't like veterans of the media per se where. I feel like they can be misled at times and look even veteran. Seasoned guys and girls can be misled. Hell. I've been misled. But I do my best. That's why I don't get into the news breaking business like let me tell you something. I could do a breaking news story on the NBA. Almost every on this show if I wanted to. I don't care to why because I don't know if it's a hundred percent accurate because just because someone tells me that I trust doesn't mean that it's GonNa be one hundred percent accurate each and every time the team could deny it there could be some nuance to the conversation. So I just feel like that job is way too stressful for me like I. I'd rather just hang out here and talk to you about rolling. Are Ours and trying to help. Pass kids speak Spanish and then gives them takes and occasionally tell you. Hey here's what I'm hearing on. Good Authority right but I always preface it by saying that and then I preface things by saying that this is either general speculation or at times reckless speculation. I have a point here. My point is this is yesterday actually yesterday. There was one report today. This morning. There was another yesterday. There was a report by Shamsher Iranian of the Athletic Stadium Friend of the program about the NBA investigating about whether they should play their biosphere games at Walt Disney world in. Orlando so I was like okay. I trust Shamans chumps. Good reporter right woge. Is the man Shams and Kris Haines a right there? You know what I mean like. They're like one. A1 B. You know what I'm saying like. Whoa just clear one right like those guys are one. They won't be very credible. Mark Stein is very credible. Like there's some guys that that report stuff and you're like yeah that's for sure kind of like with the draft stuff remember. I told you if it's not schefter. More or Jeff Darlington. Don't listen right now because everything else seems crazy and that's the deal with the NBA. There are just certain people that you trust the ones I just mentioned amongst there are a few others clearly. Ramona Win Rachel. There's there's People Howard Beck of bleacher report like they're certain people you're like they've got legit right with being the king so when chomps reports that I'm like I I made on that and let's hear what she said on stadium and the athletic the NBA is considering Disney's resort in Orlando as potential playing site when players in the League believe it is safe to resume play from the crow virus pandemic and I'm told Disney's believed to have already offered up its property as the NBA sees fit the discussing considered several different? Playing sites Orlando being the latest. Las Vegas has also been discussed the NBA. Just like the rest of the world is still trying to get a handle on the virus and sources. Tell Me Commissioner Adam silver had a call with the NBA thirty GM's on Wednesday and they had a league doctor on the call who shared some positive. Developments are potential drugs and medicines for the virus and also a vaccine trials starting at some point soon in England so before the NBA can get to any return timetable on return plates. They still need to get through hurdles around testing around the buyers itself around the medical components that still exist. Yup that latter part was stuff we discussed yesterday. So it's really not. That part's not super duper shocking. We've heard it before But again the reporting is solid and when he says he talked to someone in. The Commissioner's Office. I believe him so that. It's one thing if I tell you based on as I did it yesterday. Here's how I'm reading things. Here's how I'm interpreting things. Here's him telling you I spoke to someone. Okay so there's that report which is fantastic. Look we're going to Disney world. Maybe but whatever I think right now we'll take it. We'll all take it. I'd be in on it. You'd be in on it. Television would be in on it. Let's go granted. Let's go when everyone is good to go. You know what I mean like you. You get what I'm saying so this morning there is a report in CNBC now CNBC. Generally not a place that breaks a lot of sports news however they do have most recently a reporter named Jabbar Young who used to report on the Spurs. He was a spurs beat writer for a long time. But what I would say this to Bari's good reporter with the Spurs and like I said even veteran guys sometimes can be misled. He wrote a story this morning that said. Nba team exempts agents are calling on the League to cancel the rest of the season. So I started doing my own digging on that already kind of thinking. Well you know Shams is reporting something completely different the day before and chums is in the news breaking business. That's his role that's his job so I was a bit skeptical. And it's one of these deals where I'm like I'm reading into this and I'm like this is not vibe ing with what I've heard. This is not vibe with what Ramona as credible a reporter in any sport as there is told us yesterday right. So you've got Ramona telling US something different you've got Shams telling US something different you've got whoa. Jonas something different than this report. I'm saying there's they're all they all seem in lock and step right at least with the direction the NBA's heading. Which is we're trying our best to make make this happen. Stephen a Smith saying the same thing on I take yesterday. We play that audio for Ramona. But this while everyone is going one direction. This report goes in another direction. And I'm like I don't know if I'm buying it so the NBA. I made a call and the NBA told me to some extent on background. It's completely unfounded with no basis. I wouldn't think too much into that at the moment so all of a sudden the CNBC report has been kinda altered a little bit and now all of a sudden it's been softened. You know what I'm saying because here's what happens. Sometimes you get stuff with one person or two people and you roll with it. And I don't think that in this day and age man like I just think you've got to trust the people that have been given your stuff for a long time. There's a lot of misinformation out there when it comes to anything really but we're focusing on sports right now and I'm just trying to tell you. Hey just pay attention to who is reporting. What if Ramona's reporting it by it if wolters reporting it by it by it if those guys Rachel anyone I mentioned was reporting it? Buy It if it's someone or an outlet. You probably aren't familiar with or an outlet general's report on Sports. I would be skeptical. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. And that doesn't mean it's fake news or this. That and the other. That person could have been told that but again. It's okay to be a little skeptical at times so anyhow so maybe we're going to Disneyworld. Maybe we're not. I know Aaron Rodgers wants to go to Disneyworld because he wants to win another super bowl and clearly everyone is taking up. Aaron Rodgers Ins all bent out of shape because the packers drafted Jordan love. And I was like all right I get it but I just think that Aaron had a way or an opportunity here to kind of create a new path for him away for him that was opposite of what Brett. Farve did it to him right. We're bread Farr famously. Said I'm not here to mentor. Aaron Rodgers and we all know that that relationship wasn't so great. I've heard over the last couple of years particularly once far got his. Jersey retired eventually. That things kind of smoothed over with the organization and Aaron even so Brett. Farve was doing the rounds. He was doing the rounds on a bunch of different shows he was on Sirius. Xm He was on the rich Eisen show and he said I'll whole bunch of stuff and the most explosive being what he said on the rich. Eisen show which is about Aaron finishing his career as a packer. Here's what bread. Set My last one for you Brad. And it's It's a difficult question but I'm going to ask it certainly more difficult to answer since it's looked in the future the old crystal ball and you even said yourself the world you do you cut me off. You think he will not end his career as a green bay packer. Just like you get tells me no you know. Tom Brady myself and Joe Montana and Manning just to name a few finish their career elsewhere in my case I played before different things so I think you see that trend more and more. I think here in Finnish somewhere else. That's my good. I guarantee you this and I don't know there's certain but I guarantee you it's got the wheels turning in an air by which if that's the case then that means that there's a chip on sh over towards organization that otherwise was not there now. He also revealed in that interview that he had spoken to Aaron recently. So is he just kind of letting the cat out of the bag is he basically doing Aaron Rodgers dirty work? Maybe the segment brought to you by straight talk wireless running on the same networks while saving up to fifty percent at the unlimited play with twenty five gigs of high speed data to g for forty five bucks a month. No contract straight talk wireless no contract no compromise so Greg Bergman how are you feeling about the NBA? Maybe GOING TO DISNEY WORLD. I think the NBA works perfectly doesn't it? I mean it has an area where you have plenty of space for everybody. There's places to hold the Games all over the place and you get to ride the matterhorn. Whatever you want. It doesn't get your ride rides. There's not going to be very many lines. For for the Star Wars rides the matterhorn. And all that yes there is. That is the one advantage that you'll have still going to epcot. Hey have at it. Yeah I mean I don't know if you could still get a drink around the world that have caught with no one there to those those particular stations. Maybe there are. Maybe they're not. That'd be nice if there were but yeah I'm with you. Let's go this report though again. It just are you with me on like I'm not look. Cnbc's the best business reporting site. There is but if the reporting sports. I'm a little skeptical. Yeah that's not usually where I go for my sports and I mean like I've heard of Jabbar young and I've I've read him before. So Spurs beat writer. Yeah right yeah absolutely. So he has some contacts. But yeah I mean if when you have one day sham saying hey we're going to Disneyland. Maybe even the next day maybe maybe possibly and then the next day you have a guy saying it's all over it's getting shutdown. I. It just doesn't add up to me. Here's what the League told. Cnbc by the way. It's the responsibility of the League office to explore all options for return to play the season the spokesman told CNBC and his statement. We owe that to our fans teams players partners. All who loved the game while our top priority remains everyone's health and wellbeing. We continue to evaluate all options to finish the season at the same time. We're intensely focused on addressing the potential impact of Covert Nineteen on the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season. So yeah it is it is interesting it just just. It's okay to be skeptical sometimes but when when certain people tell you you can put it in in the cement right like you. Can you can put it in in ink Ramona. Woge Shams Stein right like Chris. Hanes those people. They're saying stuff you buy. It's simple as that. The I mean Ramona yesterday would've said something along those lines. Right possibility. She was on the show for the whole show right. Yeah for two hours. We talked about a lot of things and that wasn't one of them. So anyway and clearly Brett farve is doing Aaron Rodgers dirty work. Yes Oh Yeah A. Brett. Farve is absolutely doing but he I mean let's take it from air inside for just a second. I mean I know it's he this organization the packers have never ever since he's been there drafted offensive skilled player in the first round for him. Not once. Okay that's true. Let's address that on the other side. I WanNa take a break because I want to get into that. Plus you love documentaries. You love the last dance. You love all these documentaries. That are coming out. We'll get ready because there's a Laker version coming out. We'll tell you who just a moment stick around sedan with a year on seven ten. Espn presented by Progressive Insurance. Making it easier to bundle your home and car insurance. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less. No contract no compromise so Bergman before we get into the LAKER documentary. That's coming out and finish up the Aaron Rodgers question. You went to go see the fancy algae lighting in the ocean yesterday. Yeah it was really cool got out to Manhattan beach around. Eleven o'clock kept the kid awake. Pm MTA GETS ELEPHANT PM. Because you had to go at night. Otherwise don't see it right explained to me what the Hell it is. So it's these fido plankton. That it's apparently what I was told is that they are read during the day. But you can't see him. In at night they go they go down to the bottom and when the waves crashing them. They think they're being attacked and turn this blue color and IT MAKES THE ENTIRE WAVE TURN BLUE. It's like a neon vice. Blue is the way I describe it like you know like the kind of Miami Vice Blue you know. Yeah it felt very avatar ish. Like what's the video game vice city right those kind of colors? Yeah Right which was. It was very cool. I mean we were. We were social distance. We weren't around anybody that was actually go on the beach because if you go on the beach and a cop catches you. It's a thousand dollar fine right you could. So you were as on the Strand. Is What Your House on the Strand looking and it just beautiful it is. It looks cool. I saw the pictures you sent. Yeah it's nothing like I've ever seen before so I don't know if I'm ever going to get to see the northern lights. I feel this is the closest I'm going to get right and I also feel like this is like this is one of these deals. Where is this and people have said? The scientists have said this that while this is all happening. The Earth is kind of healing itself a little bit like we joked that the air quality in La went from worst to best now the air quality. The last couple of days for whatever reason has not been great but But it's been way better than it normally is even even when it's not necessarily quote unquote great the last day or two right and there's only happens because there's not people in the ocean correct up. Yeah so so. If there's people in there they wouldn't this wouldn't be happening so the fact that it's all happening right now. This is kind of like the only time that we're GONNA see we don't even know how long it's GonNa be there. It's very cool. So what was your question on Rogers again? I forgot before we went to break. Well we went to. We were saying that. Oh the first round picks yes never. Yeah so they never have drafted a wide receiver. First round pick right isn't thrown to a first round pick except one touchdown to Mercedes Lewis. Who Wasn't a guy drafted? Yeah that part sucks. I get it but what I would say is. There's not a lot. I Know Tom. Brady's throwing a ton of like one hundred touchdowns to a first round pick but I would say half of those of not more where Randy Moss for a couple of years. You know what I mean right. He wasn't drafted by them. And I just think that. Generally the best quarterbacks make receivers and I love Aaron Rodgers. I've told you this is my man crush dude but I yeah. They haven't helped him. I'm with you on that but I I'm not as big on this whole thing that everyone's like gambling about about non drafting a receiver look. He's thirty six years old. He's losing a little bit a little bit. Not a time But he's lost a little off the fastball. Even though he only threw four interceptions last year. But I just think you've got to plan for the future. And if he wants to leave he leaves. But I don't think that's in his best interest either like I think. That team overachieved last year and they're not a thirteen one team. They're probably closer to a ten win team and they're probably going to be a ten win team this year and people are going to use this as like the rally cry when it really the bigger issue for the packers is their defense. There is fifteen. They're run. They're awful against the run. Which is why we saw the niners. Just torch them into games that they played them including in the NFC championship game. Anything were they need to load up. More is on defense. Let's forget about a wide receiver. Yeah I mean I don't disagree with that and I don't think that drafting Jordan. Love was the wrong call. I'm just saying from from Rogers standpoint. I've never given me any help in the first round. And then when you finally do pick somebody that's an offensive player in the first round. It's my backup. It's it's I get it I get. I'd be pissed I look I get it. I'd be mad if I were in his position. I'd be furious. I get it but eventually you have to let things you have to be rational and you can only be emotional for so long and then at some point you have to kind of think through you know yeah. I don't think he's going anywhere. I think you actually end his career there when he's done unless he goes somewhere and he's just like that. Joe Montana thing I a couple of years and just yeah I mean just as far as definitely stoking the flames. I don't think there's any doubt Z. Is He actually? This was the funniest line that he had when he was on Sirius. Xm yesterday he talked about how surprised he was when they drafted Jordan Love Laura of bread far talking about how surprised he was when the packers drafted Jordan love. Let me hear it real quick. Actually actually I was more surprised than than when Erin was drafted in my situation way back when I was more surprised this time because you know I don't know much about Jordan love I and Kudos to him for get drafted and I mean. Nothing's his fault other than what he's done to get to this point so I'm not knocking him at all but they were. They were several plays away from the Super Bowl and to me. It sends a message. And I'm not. I'm not saying that it's the wrong pick. But I'm saying based on their situation present situation it to me. It sends a message to Aaron. Not so much anyone else but to air. We're preparing for our future. I and deal with our president after. That's the job of the front office. Brett I hate to break it to you and also what? Nfc Championship game was. He watching you know what I'm saying like I didn't feel that game was ever really that close between the niners and the packers I know. Seventeen points at the end but the niners were like weren't they leaving like twenty seven to nothing or something ridiculous like that. It was something ridiculous like that. It was just funny because he says the packers were several plays away. He wasn't saying that they're like a play or two away. They're not even a wide receiver. Away is the whole point and by the way him saying that he was more surprised about Jordan love being drafted then when they drafted. Aaron like get the hell out of here with that. No what is buying that bull bleep that you're selling far okay. Nobody's buying that crap all right. No absolutely not look Aaron. Rogers I think is still a very good quarterback and is still and they're going to be a good team again this year because of him because he is like you said he's a guy that makes his wide receivers better okay. So let's talk this documentary. You sent me this text. This morning there is a magic Johnson. Documentary coming up. Yeah which was I mean. Look who we'RE GOING TO GET DOCUMENTARIES. Galore right now right so if Magic Johnson's GONNA get one. He was on a show and was said. Yep I gotta I gotTa documentary. It's not GonNa be just about basketball though. It's after playing career going into being a businessman and how he succeeded there his after playing career or his post playing career that works after post whichever. Where's your way sounded so inefficient in the way you said his after playing career. Yes his post playing careers. George yes much better much. Better you work with verbal medium Bergman. Yeah I'm not very good with words I don't know what to tell you. He told Kevin Frazier of entertainment tonight. Yeah you'll get the basketball part of it but he talks about how he reinvented himself. And you can make the case right. Magic Johnson's post playing career is after playing. Career is as interesting as his playing career. Oh absolutely I mean. He owned what does He. He's own different teams. He was he had magic. Our movie theaters He's done a lot and that's all coming off of US having HIV. Yeah I mean think about all the things. He's overcome to get to become a basketball player overcome in his personal life than what he had to overcome as you mentioned with this health. And then what he had to overcome as a guy starting as a businessman. Like there's a lot of things they're actually that I think are really fascinating and would be super educational. Because here's the thing we need to teach you youngsters. What the old guys. We're all about okay. That's what this is all about if you don't know about magic there's one thing if mommy and bobby are wearing on our way lower telling you about Magic Johnson Right. You know grandma grandpa uncle Jeff for Jim or whoever is telling you everyone. You're watching it and I think that people are learning that with this Jordan documentary that we are in a kind of a golden age of documentaries particularly sports documentaries and I want to give to people credit for that. Okay now granted there. Were people doing sports documentaries before it but we gotta give. Espn an encounter. Shell really who is the guy who helped spearhead ESPN films and Bill Simmons a lot of credit because they were when Simmons was espn? They started thirty for thirty and it was. I thought it was something that was so incredible that I couldn't get enough of each and everyone on the came out. Simmons still doing great work at. Hbo and the Ringer when it comes to his documentaries and like those guys really kind of pave the way for these documentaries to be what they are so but I've all in on it like teach me more. I much rather watch. I don't know about you but I'd much rather watch a documentary than watch a feature film right now. Right now yeah. I mean most the time I've been very towards feature films but right now I'm really enjoying these documents. People talk about like Michelle loves them. People talk about how great documentaries are and I just was never that guy. Now watching this and watching more documentaries. I'm I'm in. I'm in on it. It's not Laura Archie sausage voyage. Yeah so actually. If we each l'orage Laura. Are you more into documentaries right now? Or are you in? Are you still prefer a feature films? I've always been into documentary so I'm glad people are finally giving them the respect. Not that all of them are great so greg. I'm glad you've got more into documentaries. Greg. I'm glad you grew up. Yes I'm all grown. Yeah it's very nice. I coming up next Josh. Kelly is all grown up. Ucla running back. He's got a phenomenal story. If you're not familiar with it we'll get to that. He was drafted by the chargers in the third round. We'll talk to him and just excuse me in the fourth round. We'll talk to him in a few moments stick around. He's coming up in three and a half minutes here on seven to ten. Espn presented by progressive. Insurance guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Josh Kelley. Ucla running back drafted by the chargers in the fourth round will join us here in. Just a SEC. The segment brought to you by my computer career training for a better life and Josh there. I've been told on the phone. So Josh Man. Congratulations thank you so much for joining us. What was that experience like for? You are getting drafted the phone. Call the whole nine. Thanks for having me man appreciate it was a blessing to be here but tend to the draft man. It was it was kind of wild and crazy. There's a lot of anxiety like two going into it. You know I remember the day before the day to a lot of the running backs taking the day and Answer and sure enough day through king I kinda went early but you know you're just anxious the whole time seeing guys get paid and you're just looking at. Who's on the clock and wondering if that's going to be where you're going to be at. Yeah I would imagine man for sure and like how difficult was it to train. I guess right now. Considering the circumstances it's it's it's really a huge obstacle right now of course and everything going on with the virus but it's been tough man guys have access to way room so hard have access to the field too so it's just pretty much finding something wherever you can what it has been something at home going out for a jog. GotTa stay in shape man. That's important so when you're going through the draft process like how much. How many conversations did you have at the chargers? If any I've had quite a few you know okay definitely met those guys the Senior Bowl. The combat right now kept in touch oppose dry. I mean between the pro day when fortunate didn't happen but I was in touch with a lot in this entire process and it's really cool. How it all worked out. What were your did. You have like a fun conversation or connection with coach Lynn. He's such a nice man. Yeah yes man I definitely. He called me on the phone Man That was I think today. That's the best phone call. Got My light. I Bet I was. Well he's running back guy. You know what I'm saying so that helps you exactly. That's an icing on the cake. Right there well. And of course awesome Clearly had a great season for them last year. But you've seen it like you in college is the same way. Now right the pros you got running back by committee and a lot of places and you're able to make an impact very quickly. I mean. Look at Austin. He was the backup and all of a sudden boom. He stressed it into the role. And and here you go. How do you feel about kind of the way? The running back position has evolved here over the last several years. That no is so. It's so funny about it. Is that you know running back for being used differently. Now you know we got guys like McCaffrey you can. You can just create. Mother's do you can do it all got compared with like sort simply that you guys like the saint who were like bill cows. So it's crazy. How like the Rainbow? Coalition is so to me. It's still a vital part of everyone's often but we're just being you differently. I just think it's really cool man. How position as evolved? And you know you know. I'm breaks the challenge man. It's GONNA be tough out there but you know I love it man. I love play running back. Not Something I really take pride. You sound super excited man. I'm excited for you. Just hearing it in your voice like it's pretty awesome when I hear it. So let me let. Let's talk about your story because everyone knows it and I'm sure Bruin fans do but you were a UC Davis running back right and then you when you transferred you were only allowed to transfer to a couple of schools right. What can you just kind of explain that whole process when you went from? Uc Davis and you ended up at Ucla Right. Yeah For me man. It was crazy. 'cause like after my sophomore. Uc Davis UC Davis when we had a coaching switch. You know asked me to be transmitted although when they just go somewhere else. I've always had this internal drive where I felt like. I could play BS conference. You know I told the coaches that you know the graduate transfer released but they told me that look man if you WanNa stay in extending California. You can only go to schools. Ucla and I was like man. I was bummed out because those are two of the hardest schools to get into but Man USA rejecting me pretty quickly entertaining. They're entertaining my idea Film and the rest is history. Man That's awesome. That's crazy so let me ask you this clearly. It's already a rivalry. I know you've had some good runs against them but was there little extra with those runs against USC. Most definitely there was absolutely. Yeah Yeah Yeah because you had that one big run against them where it was like. It was like a video game watching you. Obviously playing a rivalry game. You Know Bat and there's also the no. I didn't forget that. Especially you know. Go to transfer process whereas of course you know. Forget the school every jagged. No doubt I get in Josh Kelley. Joining us here. Ucla running back now with the chargers fourth round pick in this most recent draft. Give me a little insight. I mean we we all know it. We feel it. We're here in la but someone who participated in that rivalry between UCLA and USC. How would you best describe it man for a that's like it's like a southern? California Bowl right there man. It's it's to the base causes in. La Possibly Southern California and they just play each other. There's a lot of people in the field of know each other in play football pop warner together and when they recruited you know people know each other for million man blue and red is just an iconic bribery game man. Offer me playing any for two years. It was great. It's unbelievable there's nothing like it did just amazing when you have your cross town rival you know motions are high. Lotta trash talking on the field and man it's great it's right up there for me personally with the best of the best in College Football. How much trash talking? Were you doing though in that? Rivalry man nine. I feel like I'm talking person. You know I feel like I'm goofy. People take me. We gotta work on that Josh. We listen I think we need to bring you on and specifically start working on your trash talk we have. We can have callers call in and give you suggestions. We gotTA keep it. Pg because this is real rate this live radio. You know what I'm saying like we say Sirius. Xm Satellite Radio. We can't curse here or anything but we gotta work on that man like come on like okay. I can we. Can we do something can we? Here's what we're GONNA do. Do you have a twitter account? Creating one yeah I got one. Okay what is your twitter account at Smooth Klay? Jk AT SMOOTH PLAY J. K. So here's what I'm GONNA do. I want I want the audience to help you with your trash talk. Okay so don't don't don't take offense. They're going to tell you. Hey Josh here's what you should say to do when you run them over. Or here's what you should say to do when you Juku or here's what you should say to do. When you score a touchdown run them over like all those things I want the audience. To just shoot you tweets at smooth play. Jk and they're gonNA find you. We're GONNA help you with your trash-talk game man used on Wednesday. So that's what we do we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna find some of the best suggestions and then we're going to bring you back on in a couple of weeks and then i wanna talk to you about the best ones and then you can rate them. You can great him like a letter grade like you were in school okay. That sounds good. I love to do that for real. That sounds good. Then that's what we'll do man Josh. Thank you so much for hanging out with this man. We really appreciate it congratulations. We're obviously excited that you're going to be still in town playing football here in your hometown. And we'll talk to you soon. We're going to work on that trash-talk okay they they have you got it. Man Take Care. God bless you Josh Kelley with us there. That was fun. We're GONNA help him. I need you to help this man. Okay forget about he went to UCLA USC fan. We need to help this man trash talk. He said he's too Goofy trash-talk. He's currently pretty awesome at running back so we need to help him shoot him a tweet and tag me at Sodano. So I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA post his twitter right now. I'm going to thank him for coming on smooth play J. K. Would you think of that Bergman? He was fine. Yeah he was great. I love that he was he was engaged. Yes if we can get him. Some good moves to after his touchdown trash talk all about it. Yeah I wanted to do. We need to send him celebrations for when he scores touchdowns and I want good trash talk that he should be saying to people when he scores. Runs them over them or whatever so feel free to send them at smooth play. Jk and then at Sodano tag is both tag espn. No don't tag tag just tag me and just tag smooth play Jay. We'll do that coming up next. There is a great great. Tv project coming up tonight that we need to discuss plus speaking of the rams. I kind of mentioned them earlier in the show. They got some explaining to do. I'll tell you what that's about in just a second stick around. We're back in three minutes. Sodano seven ten years. Sodano here on seven ten. Espn thanks to Josh Kelley. For joining us there actually. I didn't get to tweet that I forgot. I WANNA tweet him. We'll do that in a second at smooth play J. K. Sent Him your touchdown celebrations to send him your trash. Talk suggestions makes you tell him. What the hell you're doing. Because I don't want him just randomly feeling. Like he's being pulverized on twitter so feel free to send him all those suggestions. If you miss that interview he was great. You should subscribe to the podcast. Check out the entire interview on demand section of the show podcast on the ESPN APP Apple. Podcasts spotify Google wherever you find your podcast brought to you by capital one. Why SETTLE FOR AVERAGE WITH CAPITAL ONE? You can open a savings account with the rate five times higher than the national average. Welcome to banking reimagined. What's in your Wallet Capital One and a member? Fdic and of course tune into the last answer behind the scenes look at the ninety Chicago Bulls Dynasty the series continues Sunday at six Pacific on. Espn television listen. To listen to the wrap up show with myself and Alan sleepwalk immediately following the broadcast on the Espn Los Angeles twitter account presented by state farm. At and T. Cinco Tequila and our friends at Coors. Light coming up here. I WanNa talk about something that happened with. The Rams is a story that we've discussed previously but now there's an update to it but today is going to be a fantastic day because I love parks and recreation. It is one of my favorite shows of all time. I think the cast fantastic and you know what as good as the offices and I know people are going to hate me for saying this but it's a hot take I'd rather watch parks and REC than the office. I don't know if you feel that. Way Bergman and Laura but I am a parks and REC guy stand for parks and REC. And they're doing a social distancing show today on NBC. Which I would imagine. We'll be freaking hilarious. So Ron Swanson is maybe my favorite TV character of all time. I just relate with him so much. I love that guy. You're a little crazy. It's a really great show. It's fantastic show but the just on a whole `nother plane it's a whole nother world. Laura you're GonNa hate me both of you. I don't I can't Oh Laura Laura you have time you have time now is the time he ano- I. You can't convince me to watch them. They're just not my scene. I'm like I'm over. It don't like funny. I watch office one episode and I was like. I don't get whatever to me because I know the purpose is just. I know what you're saying though. It's just like you think it's just too. It's like weird and like random. No right it's just like having random conversations I get what you're saying at some. I think I think I would rather watch your show though. Just because I've heard really good things about it parks and REC. I think is better. I think it's better produced than office parks and REC is fantastic. And if you'RE GONNA WATCH LAURA START WITH THE SECOND SEASON. Just completely skipped the first season altogether. It's not oh you should watch it just for context and it's only episodes like it. That's not true. It's just six half hour episodes. It's not like we're asking who the characters are. You can learn the characters just fine by starting with the second season. I'm taking notes guys taking out the thing I mean for the love of God but yeah. I'm all in on that today it's one of the few shows my wife and I actually agree upon. We don't watch the same brand of television or movies. I mean definitely not movies like we do not watch. She doesn't even like movies all that much but she only likes movies that she's either read the book or like cartoons like that's that's basically it. I but if she's read the books you'll watch it so we've watched like the hunger games together. We've seen the help together. We've seen movies like that. That she's read the books on the Davinci Code that kind of stuff. But it's for the most part it's she she just doesn't care for movies TV shows. We don't agree on very much either but I got her into parks and REC and she watches parks and rec so much so that she watches the rears on fx or she'll pull it up on Hulu or whatever and just watch it for hours at a time now so this is literally the only TV show. You could watch together. I mean there's not very many. I've just started having literally. Yes he gets the. We just started watching veep. I've seen veep. She had an and she's she's into it so we're like in almost season three now of veep but yes she. We don't agree a lot on television. I watched what was the movie. O'shea was in with Seth Rogan recently. Oh Jeez it's a long shot yet. Long shots that she's running for. President or whatever she's going to run for president she's like the State Secretary of state or something like that spoiler alert haven't seen the movie from three years ago but yeah. I think it would be serious. She wasn't feeling sorry O'Shea wife was wife. He wasn't feeling I was supporting you dog. Okay I watched it really. That's that movie was hilarious. I thought it was funny. Like Seth Rogan. You know I was watching super bad two nights ago because it was on TV. I liked that job. Appetite like area of comedy like I'm a fan of it. Yeah I mean if he's and that's one of those ones that you have to kind of be in that world if you don't believe if you don't like that Kinda stuff and you're gonNA be out by the way before we get to the rams thing so Lebron has weighed in remember. We started the show telling you about the report and I told you you can't always trust everything you read one about sports particularly. It's not a sports outlet reporting it and you'd have to be skeptical. Maybe not trusting is a strong word but I told you the NBA has vehemently denied it. And here's what Lebron tweeted saw some reports about executive agents wanting to cancel the season. That's absolutely not true. Nobody I know is saying anything like that. As soon as it's safe we would like to finish our season. I'm ready and our team is ready. Nobody should be canceling anything. I I tried to tell you to start the show that I didn't buy any of this that I don't believe it to be true at all if Lebron is coming out saying it. I'm going with champagne over Jabari. I'm sorry. Yeah and the Lakers are confident and ready. And they should be so. I'm I feel a lot better about this now Look Ramona said it but if Lebron's saying it you know Lebron Adam silver are talking. I don't care what anybody tells you. I think that they're and probably communicating more regularly than you think because I would communicate with the greatest player on the planet much like David Stern used to communicate with Jordan needed to so I think that that just makes sense. Adam is a players commissioner and Adam that's why players love and that's why I think he gets stuff done that's why we've had labor peace. That's why Adam is the best commissioner in sports because he communicates so if I had to guess he's communicating with Lebron and. That's why he should be the the commissioner of all sports. Just make the top guy. Yeah I don't know if that would fly but I'd be okay relieve it. I think it'd be okay with it. So pass is to join us in a few minutes. But this story has come up again about the rams and not paying Clay Matthews Clay Matthews is filing a grievance with the Rams because I guess he feels like he owes them a few bucks. Now Lindsey theory was on with us a few months few months ago maybe a few weeks ago. It feels like a few months ago. Time doesn't count and she explained that it had something to do with offset money that it was about if matthews gets picked up by another team there's offset money involved here much like what. Todd Gurley so I mean he could file the grievance all he wants I mean I feel like if that's you know I'm I'm GonNa believe Lindsey like why would any court or arbitration hearing be like Okay Dude like you can find the grievance but unless you're finding retirement papers like you may still get picked up by another team. Yeah none of. It really makes all that much sense. I'm I'm pretty sure that Kevin them off and less need all them are pretty aware of what the situation is. Yeah so again. I think you just have to wait till the season starts if one starts so I just don't understand the the the the Klay Matthew side of this you know like I know we only just to. You know listen. I just trashed their logo. A couple of weeks ago like I'm not that guy I call I call them like I. It's not that good. It's not good at all. Actually if they would have done the one that the NFL memes people did then that that would have been good. But I am curious to see their uniforms which are coming out in a couple of days. I did see that that is coming out so hopefully. We're not disappointed by that. But Look Matthews. You gotta wait picked up by another team. Do There's offset language in your contract. Tell your agent to read your contract like like. I don't see this being an issue with the RAMS. I just think he's creating sturdy create a stir potentially and I liked. Clay came on the show and we talked but this just seems odd whether it's him or his representation to take this particular stance. I mean maybe I'm wrong I again I just don't get it. I coming up next. Did we help Jeff Passan? Espn insider with teaching his son. How To roll his R's did we do it? Did we do a good job did you? The audience do a good job by sending them your suggestions we'll find out that and of course the MLB timeline to a lot of talk about divisions in Major League Baseball. We'll do that with passing in four minutes.

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"It is time to get up with the cowboys. That sound you heard last night was their offense crashing back to Earth in New Orleans. What happened and what does it mean? We'll start there. Plus Patrick still perfect but he took a road less traveled to get there. Is Everything still up to date aimed Kansas City. We'll show you and then Baker Baker. Mayfield in the browns answered their critics including the one sitting here. Was this the game that changes the narrative of the entire franchise. It's a fun. It's time to get up from New York. City delighted that you are here what the master-motivator Rex Ryan. Can I get a little bit the credit yes. We have brainstormed our new feature here on get up. It's going to be called overrated as hell. We got lots to get through this morning we we will get to the browns and Baker and all of that I promise but if he didn't stay up late last night here's watching missed Dak Prescott and the cowboys take it on Teddy Bridgewater and the saints in New Orleans under two minutes to go in the half cowboys Danny going forward. I didn't like the decision to go for the punted but at the end of the day to me this look like Zeke elbow his down before that ball out cues play in this game they would rule it down. They would not overturn Saints Kick Field Goal New Orleans at nine three at the half third quarter so now cowboys that's like Joe Far and away their best drive right you get a little temple collection. Pass it the ball down the scene and leaves the Zeke Elliott who actress thirty five yards rushing on eighteen carries but Dallas ten nine league now Alvin Kamara rex. Where's the tackling yeah. That's a good question here. I will say this that banderas showed up their defense defense played well enough to win but not not so much offensively Kamara making people mace avoiding tackles on the saints would want him taking a twelve ten lead on a field goal. Kamara mar seventeen carries sixty nine yards now under two minutes ago Saint at the cowboy thirty one is bridgewater on a big third down the real don't do it. This is the number one thing in this moment that Teddy Bridgewater could not do take a second go out of field. Goal Range gave the cowboys light saint plump. The cowboys deepen their on territory. Though here. We go conduct a hero folded. New Orleans pass rush all over story the Game Greenie this New Orleans Saints Defensive Line whooped up on the dominant cowboys offensive line. They would win a lot of those battles now on a third twelve decades and alive. That's Amari Cooper up the sideline so here we go you see time remaining seventeen seconds. This is a third and twenty they find Randall Cobb with the middle. Are they going to get up and spike spike in time to get one more chance. The answer would be yes but look into Orleans. They pressure the quarter. Melons did an outstanding job here bringing blitz forcing this ball to get out of hand so quickly that he couldn't push it downfield far enough for the Hail Mary who saw this as a defensive struggle the Saints Win Stevens played a game you know they they gave us a chance and we didn't hold up but Kandla those guys that we've got a great team. there's no confidence loss loss with this with this loss. I can promise you that there's a lot of things that will take from this that will learn from it will become a better team because of it and that's the the most important thing the Dallas cowboys probably have the best offensive line and football how did New Orleans due to them what they did show that that's what's amazing and and when you look at it. I'm going into that game. Thinking Dallas has got this and you've got a backup quarterback. This Saints Defense Twenty eighth ranked in the League. They got this thing and they got three all pro offense alignment on the field man. They got just whipped up front but it shows you how a team in can feed off the crowd in feed off the fact that he looked. You know what we're pros and we're going to attack the line of scrimmage. I give credit to Dennis Allen. He had a heck of a plan in here and you know look. I've been real critical of him in the past but I gotta give it to them here. They they played really well. Let's talk about that plan on the other side. The young genius Kellen Moore didn't look so good yeah. I think it's interesting. This is the first time they've run into any adversity. Everybody knows Dak Prescott Arizona his money tour right now looking for one hundred million to I three weeks albeit against great competition has been fantastic for Daqing Kellen Moore who the Dallas cowboys have been looking to the offense coordinator for some years now. Dan told the stories about Kellyanne more breaking his ankle in the cowboys keeping him there just so that he can be offensive coordinator now. They're finally running into a little bit of adversity. He looks like a twelve year. Hold on the sideline. Will we be able to handle it as he and his good friend. DAK ARE GONNA get questioned all week because the Saints Defense gave them fits Mr Orlov. Dan Let me be more specific perfect. He said they've played against not great competition. They bid against the giants the Redskins and the dolphins those three terrible defenses. Is it possible. Dallas was to steal a phrase overrated rated as hell took five minutes. No not at all listen last night to me comes down to two things for the cowboys offense first of all really really bad on third down and it started from the first third down at the game against this New Orleans Saints Defense where the cowboys start with the ball and then they get into third down. New Orleans wants wants to show pressure okay and so that makes deck at the line of scrimmage. I gotta change the play so removes. Zeke out. I'm going to change the plate now. Look at New Orleans. They're gonNA check to decks check and this story. The game early on deck sees it. He makes the check. New Orleans checks to him and then this is going to lead to stay short little completion. Zeke come up and make the tackle. They dropped eight in coverage. We saw the next same exact situation the very next third down so to me. This is a team that New Orleans had a better a plan for what Dallas wanted to do. Defensively or offensively on third down the cowboys ran fifty four plays last night fifty four they average running sixty five think of ten more plays would have done that offense but they couldn't. They couldn't stay on the field on third downs yeah Ebola. You're right. That's that's a story of every game it comes down to Red Zone Efficiency Agency in third down efficiency and they had none of it yesterday so well lots also. Let's not get crazy. Ticker for the saints showed up in a big way whenever you're there's. There's just winning games for you. While drew brees is sitting on the sideline. They're playing teddy. Bridgewater strength a little bit shorter balls. They're just waiting for get back. The saints could be a team directly. It's actually a very good point a step back and go big picture on that sermon at the saints when they lose drew brees. We're thinking oh no they have. Seattle and Dallas back to back weeks. They win both those games and look at the cowboys. They woke up Thursday morning on the verge verge of putting away the NFC east philly was at Green Bay. That was a lose a game. They had this one here. They figured to win now. All of a sudden that division looks very interesting Dallas Green Bay this week can filling gets the jets so the NFC East became a very interesting pitch but this is what we said coming into this season that the parody in the NFL was so wide this season and and we're not going to have divisions figured out before mid-december. It's going to be great for fans well. There's only one thing you're supposed to be able to count on and that is Patrick. mahomes throwing touchdowns for Kansas City L. How did that workout yesterday. Spoiler alert and chiefs the Battle of the UNBEATENS and we pick this one up in the third quarter which by the way could have been sponsored by Butterfinger a finger Matt Stafford here to back the it looks like a touchdown catch. Tagalog aid is not this is the story that game the Great Throw Matt Stafford just a missed opportunity for the lions just a little bobble by Golladay okay they get another play and they'll have another opportunity at this thing unfortunately Matt Stafford trying to extend the play and fumbles. They're really what happens here. L. Is he's trying to make a play on third and goal and he's switching hands and once he switches hands loses control the football points off the board the chiefs recover that ball later on the third butter fingers all game five fumbles in this quarter alone including this one. Kerryon Johnson tries to stop it and loses it and this is really a fourteen point swing right because because that was I down your thirsting goal. You're going in on the one yard line. You've got at least two more opportunities and then the coroner brilliant picks it up and and runs it ninety nine yards the other way for the touchdown so massive fourteen point swing in this game heartbreaker eighty second lines fumble inside the five yard line onto the fourth quarter we go mahomes on the Rhine and exactly how they designed this. This isn't traditional scrambled to your right back across the body book and later on and when you're out there shady just throw your hand up just in case but then mahomes doing mahomes shoddy punches one and then Daryl Williams here from one yard the chiefs backup by four thirty-six slept in the game same score. It's the lions and finally staffer golladay connection works. This is a great Klay. Matthew changed the route at the line of scrimmage and watch the feet by Golladay yeah right. They're great athleticism to drag that left foot across the boundary outstanding. Throw better catch pat. Mahomes said they took away my opportunity did he get throw but I saw the lanes that we saw here on fourth down. Look at this five flats speed get loose this is this is the growth of the home that he goes from great throwers quarterback later later on the drive. It's Williams that punches it in keep in mind as Greenie said Mahomes didn't throw a passing touchdown snapped a streak of fourteen consecutive games with multiple passing touchdowns he was going after Peyton Manning's record with that being said. How would you assess what you saw from the chiefs yesterday. We'll listen to me. Patrick mahomes yesterday goes. We know he's a great quarterbacks right yesterday. He graduated way too winner because great players when they don't have their best stuff and sometimes your best stuff isn't about how you're playing. It's about how the defense is playing against you. When you don't have your best stuff can you find a way to still win the football game and that's on the home did and it was with his legs in situations where the lines were playing so so much coverage and there was nowhere to throw the football he figured out the only way for me in my football team is to win. This game is for me to make some plays. Did my feet to there's the graduation tiger woods was great at this win the big moments or win the big games are golf events. When you do enough your stuff Patrick Mahomes one yesterday on their own without his best stuff yeah. I think I can piggyback off what Orlowski said their homes in that rarified air with. Tom Brady's the the Aaron Rodgers that drew brees whenever I was playing peyton manning where they left them too much time it was almost like everybody in the country that was watching that game new with two minutes and twenty seconds ends left in the game with Pat Mahomes getting the ball back with the super genius with the Mustache. Andy Reid getting a chance to design some place for them. Yes big-play sleigh. Wasn't there for the Lions yes. Danny Amendola is out. Yes the lions played them hard and to the ropes but everybody knew whenever Pat Mahomes got that ball back his love of ketchup his love of incredible playmaking making ability on fourth and eight extending the drive allow the fourth of nine against the Ravens last year across his body where he made a play like that. He's just in that rarefied air for such a young guy. Regis Regis know if he has that much time the other teams got no shot and that's exactly what happened to the lines yesterday. Just think about it if you were the lions going into the game yesterday and you said hey you won't allow allow a touchdown pass to Patrick Mahomes you. You're going to win this game easily radio great players find that is the finding a way to win first time this season that the chiefs have not covered bird and I think that's a huge credit green of course that Lions Defense Lions covered absolutely Zion but rex you the guy who watches the defense and I tell you what the aligns don't get a lot of credit for a variety of reasons and understandably so histories a big part of it. They paid a really good defensive game yesterday. We're in a place now. We're holding the chiefs to thirty thirty. Four points is a pretty good job and she's got a lot of that. From other places they ran back touchdown and all that kind of stuff for one hundred yards did they put out a blueprint yesterday defensively for other teams teams to follow to try and shut down Greenie. What I think is that blueprint was put out by the New England patriots the year before when I mean it's the same system and and that's what you notice about. Hey if you you have the guts to play straight across man coverage against them. That's the blueprint. They only fortunate. You know unfortunate. Thing is if that's not your style of play that ain't GonNa work against them so that that right into what Detroit already does and that's the to get after you know in play man coverage you know pat mentioned sleigh wasn't in it. That's that's an all pro corner that wasn't on the field for Detroit the whole game this whole game so to me. It would've made a difference. I don't know but but Detroit hangs around Look Stafford whose gritty performance you know. I thought they were going to win that game and yet as we said too much time they left in too much time on the clock and again they gave away potentially fourteen points certainly at least ten in the game and one of them turns into a touchdown going in the other direction. The lions had every opportunity to win that game yesterday. They looked very very they look good generally through a month of the season and the chiefs one way or another still have the best offense in the sport if you watch this show candidly if you were just awake last week anywhere you're aware that Rex Ryan had some tough words for Baker Mayfield after a tough week three performance from the browns last week. Here's what wreck said. I love to be an offensive coordinator here. I've Odell Beckham Jarvis Landry Niche and Baker Mayfield Yeah No. He's overrated. It's L. What what are you seeing that he's not doing right now. Doing you know what's he doing right. Whatever I mean in the wise words of Freddie kitchens you don't wear Orange Brown on you. Don't matter in rex. Ryan didn't have any colors right now for a reason so it's okay all right so the war of words yesterday rex you wore the browns callers on canton. I I had no idea I did that. was that was coincidental. Ryan was ready to go and one way or another the browns and is it overstating the season was on the line maybe but this was a very big game for them at Baltimore and boy did they come up with answers. Baker Mayfield for a wide right open Ricky Seals Jones in the third quarter giving the browns of first down inside the fifteen would lead to a touchdown. They're up seventeen ten now. Ensuing Laban's possession Mark Ingram the ravens haven't joined the football over the entire season until this outcomes first turnover the year and it leads to this Dan Orlovsky may feel for Jarvis Landry what I will just take another look Ingram again coughing so next drive. It's Mayfield. He's going to go for Jarvis. Landry Landry's thinking about pitching it instead that he's taking it to that their version of tip lots and just a nice little pass to Jarvis. Landy comes across the formation and Dell to on Brown's up twenty four ten fourth quarter third and Goal Ravens in the red zone. It's Lamar Jackson his tight end Mark Andrews. They get the two point conversion so now is twenty four eighteen and I'll tell you what if this game turns out to be a turning point in Cleveland season. This is the moment it turned. Baltimore had all by job eighty eight yards. This is the story of the game though Greenie they ran the football with trump on the perimeter and this one was the backbreaker right when the Ravens thought they were back in the game. The browns were the huge win on the road. Hello Block out. The noise wrecks line thing over his health. You'll you actually not x-ray does not get any credit for this. Week's when Rex Ryan you get no credit man. I was just I was thinking I was going to get a game ball. What's what I was was born away with though number one I mean that's your first question like hey. That's cool man still impact legend but you know it's funny this game Greenie when you look at it if they lose this game which I thought they were going to do. I thought it would be very competitive but they're gonNA lose this game. They would have fallen back two games two WHO and a half games to the ravens instead they put everything they had into it they had to and now they're in first place by a half game. So it was huge. I couldn't believe they took Baltimore four in their backyard and took him to the woodshed. I mean they were they beat them. At their own game. They were more physical with them. They play both sides of the ball better better than than the Ravens did and that was look. They have three starters out in the back end on deep pits and they outplayed Baltimore. You know on defense as well but niche I think obviously he was. He was the difference but Baker Mayfield. I have to give him credit. Look the numbers. Don't say you know he had a phenomenal game yet the one one touchdown one interception but I'm sorry that his performance was a hell of a lot better than I've seen up until this point also we'll take it a step farther use overrated as hell. I'll go. I'll overreact like crazy here. Okay you want to accuse me of it. Go ahead. That was a franchise redefining performance yesterday. By the Cleveland Browns they had every opportunity you to just fall apart not because of what wreck said the whole world was saying the criticism was justified. They were playing badly. They were one and two and look bad doing it and they were going into Baltimore to get buried and what they did. was they stood up. They fought back in a way that I'll be honest. I didn't know they could do what this young head coach at all these young stars who just met a few weeks ago we're months ago at this point that we could look back on this. Pat McAfee as a franchise redefining win for the Browns if they go on a run here which I think they will. I concur completely. There's a lot of noise outside of that locker room a lot of people not wearing the colors orange and brown talking about the colors orange and Brown for good reason by the way this is the first time the Cleveland Browns have been talked talked about in a positive light and what seems to be about five decades which is great for the dog pound. Also I think we should put a lot of credit in the Freddie kitchens kitchen because he strategically said thank game a a lot differently than he had in the past have Nick Chubb get loose. Maybe taking a little bit of weight off Baker Mayfield shoulders but the thing that's interesting to me is Odell. Beckham Junior has gotten about three times in the last sixteen series okay obviously they gave them the chance to throw the ball there and when we look into the future if the browns continued to rattle off wins in. Odell continues to not be a piece of the puzzle also he's being a decoy utilizing double team taking people elsewhere. I'll be interested to see how that works because Odell likes a couple of things like dancing. He likes good hair. He likes his ears and he likes the ball and he's not getting the ball right now. I think drama and controversy could be following the dog pound if this continues to happen. I thought that was the best part of what maker Baker Mayfield did yesterday. Spread the ball up to seven different receivers you mentioned it will be Jay with a career. Low two catches for twenty yards. How's that going to fare in the locker feeling good about this when considering as Greenie said it was so franchise defining and he really wasn't apart as Odell Beckham ever been on a good team in the NFL one year they made the playoffs so so this is a guy who said all I want to do is win and if you look back yesterday and some people think that he was used as a decoy first of all he gets at least two two or three has interference causes white but seals Jones this big passed to him is because Odell drew so much attention but he gets essentially double teams and that's what frees him up down the scene. Look they're gonNA C. to Baltimore. Ravens Defenders Drawing Towards Odell Leaving Seals Jones Jones uncovered who was a wide receiver at Texas a an and then still jones touchdown is also going to be because of the attention that Odell Brings James Down in the red zone. He's GonNa come from the top of the screen from Baker's left and run a shallow cross and they're going to have so many sets of eyes on him three. You guys are GonNa follow leaving covered so we can say decoy. Lt Your point this is this was the question right how is Baker GonNa Handle and and he stared down to Odell early on how you gonNA handle all those people he needs to throw the ball to Odell doesn't care about that. He wants to win also but he's always draw draw all of the attention he's back but this stand out in futility then because now he's got a road he's got he's got a wingman by the way who is incredibly awesome that his college roommate Jarvis Landry basically he in them are tag teaming this thing if Odell Beckham can continue to be this team guy drawing attention. The roof is the the ceiling as Michael Jordan. They went for the Cleveland. BROWNS REX has an interesting story about that a little bit later as well. I've got so much to get on this very busy Monday coming up if you watch it last night at night to forget for the cowboys New Orleans we'll explain why the Dallas quarterback wasn't able to get anything going all night long well meanwhile in Chicago Eighty Eighty five bears. You might have some competition for best defense ever why this version of the bears might be as good as any. We've ever seen the way get up doc on. ESPN getup is brought to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent ed or more on Car Insurance and by steel find your steel dealer at steel dealers dot Com all right Pat McAfee. Let's take a look Western Carolina and Chattanooga take it over Greenie. Thanks for bringing this up. People are doing this is the greatest play to ever happen on a football field payload Ferguson. The potter acts like he's GonNa upon it pulls it down. They now runs every human in the city during Carolina's Caleb Ferguson not it only realizes that he's an athlete of Freak one of that but he's got the arm sleeve the ball security any other brand for Western Carolina sadly. They were lose sixty five minutes. What happened to the cowboy five minutes. After that became Daniel the together another big performance. You'll see it and then there's the rent to stop raiding all that more stay with us. Get up jeez fighting stole our founding advocates curse. No it is just very lifelike. Then what does it head keeps keeps spinning scary really scary missing out on goes easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your Vica policy. It looks doll home. We can just bury it deep in the ground at the Geico we download the industry-leading GEICO APP today if you are just waking up and joining us and didn't stay up late last night. Dak Prescott and the cowboys had a very tough time offensively at New Orleans Orlands this high flying offense all you could not get much going second quarter cowboys against six three. Jason witten good Jason witten bag knocked out from behind and recovered by Von Bell Saints will take over possession. They would rule bell down there but it's whitten's. I fumble since week five of two thousand seventeen of course. He didn't play two thousand eighteen. You may have heard under two minutes left in the second quarter. Jason Garrett going on a fourth and one Zeke Elliot appears to get the first down but he fumbles what can be like. The elbow was down but they don't over turn it so the saints get the ball. Zeke would have just thirty five yards on eighteen carries on the day and then fourth quarter. It's more good defense from the saints. Cowboys just two hundred twenty ninety three yards passing forty five yards rushing saints hold on to win it by a score of twelve to ten l. what we see here is this not happening all the time on a stark reminder of just how bad it can get in. Dallas when the offense doesn't produce those forty five team rushing yards the second fused into game since Dak Zeke got there in two thousand sixteen sixteen and they're just two and twelve when they score fewer than seventeen points in a game this is even more confounding because to their credit great game but the saints not exactly known for their defensive prowess. How is what areas did the saints exploit on the cowboys offense that you think they need to rectify listen. I would say the cowboys have had one of the most talked about people in the NFL in the first month of the season and it hasn't been a player. It's been their offensive coordinator. Kellen Moore and rightfully so for all the good things that he's done for Deck Prescott in that offense but let's it kind of sum up what happened last night so first of all the cowboys had thirteen second down offensive plays right. They threw the ball ten times names on those thirteen downs and that's what they were very unsuccessful with a ton of incompletions on these second downs. That's what led to a ton of third downs. Last night. The cowboys on third down four eleven they were the number one third down offense and football coming into the game last night they average about on second down because the cowboys offense that wants to continue to control the football game the average running the ball on second down for about sixty yards a game. I talked briefly that couple moments ago that they threw the ball too much on second down. They had brand the ball fifteen yards on second downs last night. Football is a complementary game. It is all all connected so good on first down. Good on second down helps you to be good on third down so I'd say this caroline more your first month as an offensive coordinator you've got some tendencies he's and the saints seemed to have exposed them and if you look at the cowboys next four games they should be favored in every one of those game they are but those coaches are going to be watching watching that tape. The packers coaches and the jets and eagles and giants. They're going to be watching that tape and gold okay. If on second down the cowboys WANNA be a pass happy team. We're we'RE GONNA. Make sure we put them. In bed. Third Down Conversions. That's going to be a huge growth for Kellen Moore a you mentioned that they're favored and all of those and it would appear that giants won't be a shoo-in however they're doing big do things with the G. men and Mariah Greenie about these giants the only a game out of first after Daniel Jones taken out of Washington at home saquon. Barkley says who's going to replace me. The answer is Wayne Goldman but no one told Washington look how open he is. They don't cover them. That's a touchdown in the flat giants. A seven nothing lead second quarter uh-huh Daniel Jones Dan Olaf is human. He's back to throw he's looking for sterling shepherd but that was his first interception career little pressure up the middle on and and then he does not see that safety kind of cutting that crosser essentially throw it right to throw two picks on the day Washington because case keenum threw an interception and was just looking terrible would turn to their rookie Dwayne Haskins. They can't run well. Actually he can run a little takes down inside the five there but three plays later on third and goal is looking for Vernon Davis not even close to kick a field goal and then things would fall apart just completely for Haskins and this is really a little bit of a tendency for this Washington offense. You could see that Landon in an collins thought okay. I got a really good idea what this is going to be. Excuse me peppers got a really good idea. What this is going to be undercuts it? At the end of the day Haskins threw threw three picks Daniel Jones through too so there's a lot to talk about what the rookie quarterback here. Let's start with the giants. Let's go half full rather than half empty. Daniel Jones is a guy that you have been in critical of in the past very impressive last week. What did you see yesterday yeah a little bit more like a resetting of the market in a way right. I mean he looked a lot more like like the kid that I saw on a film a Ton Duke. I said that he was a lot like Alex. Smith coming out of college where short passes he was. GonNa pick you apart really accurate but when he wanted the ball downfield sometimes the ball died a little bit sometimes when he had pressure in his face he made some mistakes so again great week one a bit more more back to Earth yesterday not a cause for panic but when he gets pressure in his face and wants to deliver the football downfield like the cases for for a lot of quarterbacks he tends to make mistakes and that's a little bit of part of his game that ball dying Downfield shortstop he will pick you apart wrecks. I thought it was a better performance in that obviously it maybe I'm seeing things through rose colored glasses but I don't think so what I saw was a guy that kept his poise in this game and a guy that uses athleticism this is a Mcginn to get some big first downs and look every quarterback struggles with with pressure on his face obviously right I mean it's hard to step in your throws. Envious is operatives you WanNa be so we saw some of that yes he humid is going to be growing pains as only a second game they. WanNa game twenty four to three or whatever it was and to me he made some big plays and extended S- Lebron's on third down as well. I thought he played well for me. I agree with you completely. I mean he's an an athlete. He makes plays he can make every single throw and he is recharged something in that giants locker room that I wasn't able to do it almost makes me feel like Danny. dimes times has a little bit of William Wallison side of that defense before he got in the game. Everybody said stuck. Everybody's like it doesn't matter how good Danny dimes is. The giants defense stinks. Do you know what has happened to the giant. Stevensville stink. They do still stink stink as bad. They've been able to create five turnovers verse since Danny Jones is come on the field zero with on the football field in the opposing team's. QBR has dropped fifty percent since Daniel. Jones has gotten on the field that does on some things for your team. That defense knows that they got a guy on offense. It elevates everybody's play or potentially Daniel Jones playing against a redskins team. That is absolutely garbage garbage dumpster fire. Jay gruden could potentially with the Oakland raiders in about three to four weeks under his brother. John Gruden's team but I would like to give a little bit more credit to a Dany dimes is brought to the entire organization not just to the sidelines to pick up on the second part of what you said because there were more quarterbacks who were ruined in the national football league than are developed and if you're in Washington ten right now you know two things one you know that firing Jay Gruden does not even begin to address the problem and if you haven't paid attention to the last twenty years so that's a be and this to me is a bigger problem. I don't think that the coaches want or wanted to draft Wayne. Haskins and I don't think they want to play him. I think that is being dictated from upstairs. I think Dwayne Haskins knows it. I think that's one of the reasons you've seen the body language. You are from him right now. I'm genuinely concerned because again. This is how you ruin a young talented quarterback. Well it look look. He played terrible in the game. You know if he wasn't ready to play. It was ready to play we get it. He only had one year playing Elaine Experience and compared to Daniel Jones with three years as a starting quarterback in college. It's still matters that way but I look at it this way. Greenie is they're going to be competition Asian. I said it earlier in the season. There would be competition for that first. Pick is Washington one of those teams. They certainly your point. Dwayne Haskins never really faced adversity the field that'll house they certainly wins and losses last year and now he's Party B. Really bad football team and that might lend to some of that body language the reality is it's time to start Dwayne Haskins because he's not ready and they had no choice 'cause they're that bad of an organization will never be a time. I don't think I mean that Redskins team. Just like you said in the New York Times Greenie is in a bad spot. They are at right now. They are the worst of the non. Tanking teams have all the teams that are trying to win in football games. They are the worst add it all right. Let's get up and go L. What do we have yeah well we start with the mystics who took game one of the WNBA finals over the Sun Ninety five eighty six behind twenty two points for League Mvp Elena Delle Donne semantics. I wins in franchise history as they were swept last year by Seattle in their only other appearance in the finals game two of the best of five series Tuesday Newsday night in Washington well. It's over for Joe Madden. He's out as manager of the cubs. After five seasons mad of course famously led the team to their first world series title in one hundred eight years back in two thousand sixteen finishes with a tenure of five eighty one winning percentage second best in franchise history however the team missed the postseason for the first time in five five years this season paving the way for his exit on the last day of the regular season yesterday okay so the braves had back back home runs on the top of the eleventh inning against the mets. Why is that significant because the mets are out of it and the braves securely in it well it was significant because the home runs were significant one because the mets over underwent total for the season with set to eighty five and a half okay so coming into Sunday they were sitting happe- game back of that total at eighty five win. So of course the braves that those two home runs and Vegas all right. Let's celebrate. Everything's good. Could you imagine that with two out in the bottom of the eleven and trailing by two Dominic Smith Hits A walk off three run shot the mets finished the season would eighty-six wins barely beating that over over under that was set by Vegas at eighty five and a half at the start of the season. It's certainly been a wild one for the mets. Wednesday night on ESPN the American League wildcard game at all comes out for this all star Matt Chapman leading the as against Charlie Morton and the raise that's Wednesday night eight eastern on ESPN and as always you can take it with you because the streaming on the ESPN APP still ahead on get up this hit on Josh Allen got a lot of criticism from the bills but was it even illegal. Wasn't the worst hit from Sunday. We're trying to kick someone out of the believe next. We are back on get up and this was a very interesting thing day. In western New York Josh Allen on the bills taking on the Patriots and early on it is all New England particularly the defense. This is going to be an interception for Devin mccourty who tournant every game four straight games with nick according having a great year you saw this have some rains come one from one side of the field to the other like. Josh down to the ball right to now. It's six nothing patriots and then here they cut that McAfee you gotta bring the gun down. You gotTA throw the ball to the wide open governor. The Patriots outsmarted the bills on this particular punt blocks. What's later gets a thirteen. Nothing Patriots Brady threw a terrible interception late in the second quarter that keeps popping when the game now in the fourth quarter. Here's a huge hit right in the head on Josh Allen from Jonathan Jones. Dan. Is that a dirty play. No not at all josh shown six foot five to one hundred and forty pounds running full speed at the defense. He's the one who lowers his head. His head Jonathan Jones just they're making attack. Meanwhile Matt Barkley trying to win the game for the bills and he cannot do it with one last chance this ball state up in the air for about an hour before it was picked off by Jamie Collins and the Patriots Defense Holds Onto Win Sixteen ten a big topic after the game was the hit on Josh Allen. There's no there's no room in football for that. It's a shame to see a player like Josh for any player for that. Matter go down with one of us did that to twelve. We wouldn't have been the game. There's no way there's no way would continue to play in that game. All right you hear the comments from the Bills Rex Ryan. What's your reaction. The guide is dead on by the way if you would hit brady like that. They'd throw you out of the League so I certainly get his point. They hit on Josh Josh Allen. No that was not intentional. He's not trying to hurt this player. The thing I don't like is how he stands over him here. That's in now that makes it back yeah absolutely in and it is unfortunate. I don't disagree. It is unfortunate that there are two separate conversations. I WANNA have here. The first is about that hit. I agree with you. He's it looks to me like he's trying to hit him with his shoulder. Josh Allen Changes Pad level. He wants a pitting him in the head. It's a penalty I understand it not being an injection. Let's compare that that the volunteers perfect hit from yesterday and we'll just show this is an Oakland Indianapolis game and this is voluntary perfect with a full head of speed coming in on Jack Doyle hitting him with his helmet as hard as he can get thrown out of the game and I think this just needs to be said Pat McAfee. I'm looking right at you to start this conversation with the history that vaunted perfect has I don't know for sure that it would be overstating it to say that should be the last snap he is ever allowed on a professional football field in his life and and it is the rest of the players in the national football league who should take that stand in a time where player safety is being emphasized that is contrary to everything the NFL is right now and it doesn't matter Outta where people like me think the players should be banding together to get him thrown out of the League. Yeah I think especially with the optics of him jogging off the field smiling and waving and blowing kisses whenever you put it in slow motion. It's obvious that he's trying to spear Jack Doyle right in the head and there's numbers and analytics showed that volunteers perfect does this on a very regular occasion and the fraternity occasions thirteen times since he's come to the NFL. That's a Baker's dozen Bob but the thing about it is that whenever this type of thing happens the fraternity of brothers in the NFL. I'll have to look out for each other. It's always talked about it's like hey we gotta take care of each other because that's our businesses our livelihood but when a guy like this who was always loved by his own team hated by everybody else continues continues to risk people's not only careers but lives right there to Jack Doyle. It's something that they should definitely be talked about. Okay so that's that side of I do not want to shortchange however what was a very interesting football game in buffalo so let's go back to that rex and let's go back to what we saw the bills no one had any questions about the Patriots they for real of course they're for real. What did the bill show. Oh you buy go with at least their Defense Goingto. Yesterday we said Greenie two weeks ago. I talked about how this is a legitimate playoff contender why because of their defense and and that's what you saw like this was. They never played a good game defense. They played phenomenal game on defense and when you look when when you can do this at Tom Brady and company but they Easter on the I mean they were like well. It's not lose it. That's what Brady Day they they put up that white flag so to speak because all the he knew the only way they were going to lose the game is ZIP. They made a critical mistake. We should repeat it again. It's a sixteen ten game in the Patriots scored on a blocked punt so yeah. The bills defense played well enough to win well. The bills defense did a couple of things they stop the run which is New England's been struggling to do that this year but they've stopped the run they gave up. They're short passes and then they tackled well in space something that no one usually exploits and then they shut down the screen game right so three things that New England usually does offensively really well buffalo shut that down that being set greening we need to give Tom. Brady some credit here because Tom Brady as a player said yesterday. I'm not GonNa let the Bills Defense win the football game he was going to let the defense keep them in the game name but the way he got the ball out of his hands and never took no sex no sexists that he was massive because he was not going to allow the defense for Buffalo to win win the football game so that was a spectacular performance by two different defenses. New England has a great defense. Buffalo is a great defense but is the best defense in the sport in Chicago. You know what's the answer. The answer would be that right away in the bears Vikings game. The entire complexity of the game changed in the first quarter with Mitch trubisky going down Dan missile it does a nice job of abating pressure here fumbled obviously but the big thing is how he goes down on that let shoulder fully extends her spreads out this left left shoulder and arm all the way up landing on we'll see what happens with it but certainly took some air out of this offense and then taste in UK men and breadth breathes his new life bread. I like that too new and he he wasn't asked to do much. You see here in the shotgun just a short passage. Rico and let them do the really good job of finding Cohen one on one with the linebacker backer Harrison Smith went to the field. He gets a one on one pass could actor. Daniel was solid but again greenie mentioned that you're not talking about the bears talking about that deepens and in particular Khalil Mack another another sack. I don't know what Khalil Mack can do more than continue to dominate football games week by week. He can also throughout weird expressions. It was this women's maitree defendant home field today. Donald Poof poof alone man this good visit man. There's GonNa be a lot of games. They've got the old adage. pooping fast doesn't mean that you poop dog. I actually can take I'll start with you. Coach and I want you to fill in the blank here. The bears defense is the best we've seen since. Oh my goodness I I would say I'm GonNa say the two thousand Ravens Defense and because nobody knows how good the two thousand six raven defense was so so I'm going to say to the two thousand fan base can understand what I'm talking about. It is a historic like right now. This is his talented of a unit as I've seen seen their first round picks all throughout this the this lineup and if they're not I trump picks they were high priced free agents so I mean it's their day of two great corners first round picks. They have Khalil Mack. I mean look at their linebacking corps yeah so you've got Roquan Smith. You got you got floyd. You Got Khalil Mack Agro quite a neither did huck. Hey Yeah the only question I had was the depth and they showed the ravens. What what were you doing in two thousand D. Line where Baltimore but you know what's funny though quarterback they're tra- dill and here's the point is that you say people might not be familiar with the two thousand ravens but whenever whatever someone wants to talk about that whole you know you can win with the defensively two names that they bring up. Trent dilfer and Brad Johnson eight they want a super bowl with Trent dilfer but pat. Do you think that this Chicago team how they're currently composed whether it be trubisky or chase. Daniel's can still win a super bowl ball with them. There are the type of defense. You can win anything they. The old adage used to be offense sells. Tickets Defense Wins Games. This defense is incredible and now we can bury kirk cousins. We're sticking in big games which he has entire career but this defense can win you games when Mitchell trubisky went down. You didn't hear a lot of gas or size from the bears fans because Chase Chase Daniel is a quarterback that can get the job done especially with an opposing side of the ball like this defense for you. Would you go with chase. Daniels is better than in little trubisky. Dan Mitchell trubisky supporter since before last season certainly struggled this year. The crazy thing was when case Dan. You went into that the game from the moment. Mitchell trubisky got hurt. The offense looked better. They look more curse more accuracy. Though you'll gain in efficiency from chase Daniel I would continue to play Mitchell trubisky but at least bears no nagy knows that uh-huh face daniels good enough to come and win football games but Mitchell trubisky is still a young and developing player develop quick bears defense is only going to wait around for so. That's why you could play trubisky. That defense is so great. The bare certainly know what it's like to have a good defensively super bowl and not win our week for Monday night. Football Matchup is an AFC north battle steelers hosting the bengals. We're going to check in with the MARLINS on the call tonight coming in Monday night countdown starts at six eastern followed by the Bengals steelers at eight eastern on ESPN and as always ticket with you it's on the ESPN APP still ahead on get up. Baker Mayfield her the criticism and he ended Brown's responded in a huge way why this was a franchise defining win. That's that's ahead. This is get up.

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"I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try, get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check, OJ dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke, Vate, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Basco I n last the podcast. I come in Monday's now I'm starting to settle into this routine football season's here, and you start to get into your routine of what you do every week at NFL teams are starting to do that college teams starting to do that major league baseball long since been doing that. But I'm starting to understand where I'm going to come in every week. I walk into the studio Monday morning every week. Now completely overwhelm. I dunno where I'm supposed to do. I don't know why everyone feels like backloading all this. I wish we could spread out some of the drama of this young NFL season over the course of the week. Like last week, the NBA was kind enough to gift wrapped us a lot of their most interesting headlines in a time. We're not used to them. Jimmy Butler said, no, no, no, I volunteer is tribute to reinsert the NBA consciousness into your lives, but it did it a point where it was acceptable. Did it a point where we needed it now like today? I mean, you look down the list of things. We're gonna go over today and you. Got an injury to one of the brightest young stars in the NFL the I, I think major one of the season that we've seen. You've got the final piece of the Infinity gauntlet of rookie quarterback's coming into play two players potentially on the trading block two star players. One who's been very vocal about another one who probably should have been a little more quiet about the way he went about it and all that being said and Tiger Woods wanna tournament this year for the first time in what felt like a thousand something days. Like we had all of that on top of everything else that's happening. And that was over the course of me sitting around Saturday. I was calling a college football game and we're getting ready through meetings all morning and Friday before and all the talk was tiger this tiger that tiger birdies five of his first six Tiger Woods and so possession of first place, cutting through all of that is Tiger Woods. And so we've got to get to all of that. But, oh, by the way, the patriots lost last night to its first and last Michael junior here on ESPN Radi. Jio and the ESPN app. And I think this is the problem. So last night, Sunday night football, we had a rematch or shouldn't say a rematch. We had a reunion of sorts, Matt, Patricia. The new head coach of the Detroit Lions and Bill Belichick is former boss and the New England Patriots met on Sunday night football met in a game where most of us I'd say, nay, all of us probably expected New England was going to get this done. New England gets embarrassed last week against Jacksonville in a game that we expect because Jacksonville's a team that we see is an AFC contender. We saw how far they made it last year. Blake Bortles gives them this other worldly performance. You saw these parts that sort of made sense going to Detroit. We looked at this and cetera they've struggled so far this season Bill Belichick, one of his former disciples, we almost lump it into the Nick Sabin affect. We didn't lose to his proteges that go elsewhere. And then a funny thing happened, you talk about being overcome by emotion. The lions got one hundred yard rusher again. I mean what a time? One hundred yard rusher for the first time in seventy two games the the lions last hundred yard rusher individual hundred yard rusher was Reggie Bush. Who we saw commentating on Thursday night football last week, Reggie Bush on thanksgiving of two thousand and thirteen. But here's the problem is that happens and it's great, but no offence to the lions. The headline is the patriots are one in to the patriots are tied for last in their division, the patriots, this, and that, and I can't even get excited. The patriots losing at the beginning of the season is not fun for anyone anymore because we know better. Because even Bill bell check is saying, this is the same old story. I obviously. Aligns on digital everything a lot better than we did tonight. So give them credit. They played well coach. Well. We didn't do anything. We'll give ourselves a chance to win similar situation last week. Get behind early play from behind just weren't able to make it up. So it's going to have to work our way out of it got a lot of work to do so. No shortcut nowadays away. First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. And so Bill obviously looks at this and the micro and says, this is a lot of what we dealt with last week, poor execution. Things that we see is definitively unpatriotic their defense looked slow the same defense, quite frankly, Matt. Patricia had been making something out of nothing with for what we felt. It was awhile because we know the patriots MO is to trade their better defensive players way to greener pastures. And so that makes sense. But Matt, Patricia guy who is uniquely familiar with that personnel group took advantage of a lot of the patriot weaknesses last night, got the ball on the perimeter to a place where he thought between linebackers and safeties. We have an advantage personnel wise over what we can accomplish there, but how am I supposed to get excited when the patriots did the same thing last year when the patriots started off the season getting blown out by the Kansas City Chiefs. Sorry, I think started off to and to last year and then didn't lose another game until the Super Bowl valet. It's it's become so built into the fabric who this team is. You got that last year you've got Tom Brady's suspension through the first four games the year before that yielded us Jimmy. Rob Lowe and everything that went on with him, the phenomenon that he became. And so all the while I look at this and I say, what am I really supposed to react to. I mean, we remember the game. I think there's another game against Kansas City where our former colleague, Trent Dilfer famously put the put Tom Brady, and the dirt said, this is the beginning of the end. And that was the Onda Cincinnati game that begins everything else. We've just done this too many times for me to even react and how fun is that? Like the best part of being an NFL fan is overreacting constantly to everything we're presented, especially what we're presented in time in primetime. And instead it's, it's like, you know, I watched the patriots lose and all I got was the t shirt because the end of the day do any was believe they're really out of it. No, especially in this version, the NFL or we'll talk about this a little bit. I come away from this weekend going. All right, who's actually good? And I understand this is the first quarter of the season problem was we try and weed it out, but I think there's two teams you can say are legitimately good, great football teams that have a chance right now and everyone else's waffling somewhere in the middle ESPN radio is presented by progressive is home insurance, protecting your. Businesses, big deal cover what you've worked so hard for visit, progressive commercial dot com. Now, speaking of Tom terrific, Tom, always going to isolate the simplest possible solution here. Instead, it's a problem of execution right now though magic play can call is this comes onto execution. They're only catch in. Convert on third down, you know, if you can, if you don't have third down, you know, good execution first and second down. We're not doing a good job. He's. I wish this not one thing. It's everything that we need to do a better job. So we can add that to the useless sound. Montage of the day that you'll hear on the Dan lebatardshow is Stu gods, ten to one eastern here on ESPN radio. But I thought the more interesting one was confirmation of some of the stuff because we've always been wondering the interesting part with the patriots now has been trying to predict the the fall, right? It's been trying to predict when their time will finally come to an end. It's the same thing we do with uconn, women's basketball at the same thing. We're going through a Golden State right now, which is the other worldly success makes their drop that much more interesting. And so we looked all through the offseason after that really after that, Seth wicker sham piece broke, the kind of gave us an inflow influence in a look into what's happening in that locker. But one of the things that came up was rob gronkowski threatening retirement, rob gronkowski using that as a tool to stay in New England when he might have found himself on the trading blocks on those talks intensified and grog actually gave some credence to that last night reports. Who is retiring. Yeah. Breeze my quarterback. Going anywhere where Brady. Football. Only one thing we can do and a stick yourselves out of the hole that we started at beginning season that does not happen. And I think where we're at right now is very interesting because we talk a lot about the influence that NBA players have over their surroundings and their landscape. It's always gonna be greater just based on the nature of the sport. But you look at the time we're at in the NFL right now where players finally wielding some power on their other end in the league have gotten themselves one traded already in Khalil Mack who was not going to take less than he believed he was valued when it came to his time in Oakland, and they were happy to let them walk. So you open that up. It seems to have had an effect on levian bell who all of a sudden, those trade rumors start to become very real with has he put himself in this position? And now we hear this off season confirmation that rob gronkowski when the most powerful organization in sports who moves on from any person that they want to under this current regime. In the New England, Patriots got one upped by their own tight end who said, no, no, no, you're, you're not gonna fire me. I quit if you want to go down that road. Interesting trend that I have to imagine is making management a little bit uncomfortable to watch the way some of the sports best players have wielded some of that powerful. What feels like the first time truly in a while. And last podcast, everyone had the same dilemma yesterday. Very rarely do all of our problems align, but I feel like yesterday we were all dealing with the same very, very much. I world set of problems first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Of course, that dilemma was what's green. I'm I going to have tiger on. We are sitting there in the middle of an NFL Sunday got the NFL red zone channel fired up the only way I know how to consume football anymore. And I'm sitting there and I've got Tiger Woods pulled up on science side screen. I've got my ipad pulled up trying to watch tiger their, keep everything going. But I know for a lot of people, it was a major dilemma. Where am I going to put tiger as we got underway in what proved to be an historic Sunday. Tiger Woods got his eightieth career, PGA victory, winning the tour championship this weekend. With a final round seventy one one over par, but enough to hold on his first victory on tour since the two thousand thirteen WGC Bridgestone invitational and man, it felt cathartic for all of us seeing the flood of people and if you haven't witnessed it yet, I promise you at some point today as you're watching the replays of what happened as Tiger Woods. Walked up to that final green and the flood of humanity behind him. It looked like every Zambia movie you've ever seen. Where Will Smith floods into the street and all the sudden behind him is this absolute cascade of the undamaged just running running with their only goal being consumed human flesh in that case. And in this case, being see Tiger Woods just flooding onto the fairway. The rush of people behind tiger. And. It just left us all kind of in on it left Tiger Woods himself, and I think that was the craziest thing about yesterday's. We knew Tiger Woods went into Sunday with a pretty comfortable lead held at throughout, got to about two. A two shot lead by the end of the round made it a little interesting, but ultimately was able to hold on enough to where we got to have the moment at the end. And Tiger Woods himself said yesterday that he had a tough time holding back his emotion in the heat of the moment. Hard time not. Glass told, you know, I said, hey, you know what? I could still blazing out of bounds. So suck it up in the system shots here. And once I got the ball on the green and Joey a high five because it was done. I can handle that from there. I might go junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app that sound courtesy of our friends over at NBC Tiger Woods one thousand eight hundred seventy five days between victory seventy nine on the tour and victory eighty on the tour. And I always said during the course of this last counter year one where we were reminded constantly yesterday, Tiger Woods. Inside a year ago was hitting eighty yard shots in his backyard. And that was about all he felt comfortable with didn't know what his future was. Gonna look like golf, and now we got to this point where not only is tiger winning something that we can relish in, but it was expected. You heard from Phil Mickelson and others talking yesterday and said, this is was a when not if thing for us, you saw the way tiger was playing all year six top ten finishes over the course of the season, two of them and majors, and you said, all right, this is going to happen. And I said that was part of the thrill of all. This was knowing that it was going to happen. We all felt it happening, but it hadn't yet. It was that anticipation in every romantic comedy, the build up as always, you've got these two people that seem perfect each other, whether it's longtime friends, people that just made who can't seem to make it work. And all of us are waiting for that moment where they finally get together. The first kiss the first dance, whatever it ends up being, and then they cut the black, and then they go to the credits. And then that's. Good as it gets, but this is real life, but we don't get to cut to the credits on this Tiger Woods. Now there's an after. Now there's Tiger Woods being favored in the two thousand nineteen masters and I wonder what we're going to do with this now because the mini wins just a run of the Bill tournament next season. It's not going to carry the same weight anymore because we've already gotten through that hurdle and now it's where do we go from there? Certainly the majors are going to have their shine, but is it going to be the same mania week in and week out surrounding Tiger Woods next year that we've had just waiting for this moment. Because this moment was still incredible. I mean, even the guy the, oh, by the way, Justin Rose, the one who won the ten million dollars coming out of this coming out of the FedEx Cup. Who almost to be honest gathered away and gave it to Tiger Woods in that process is one missed putt on eighteen away from giving Tiger Woods ten million dollars in addition to the victory that we all wanted to see from him. But even Justin Rose had to stop and reflect on the scene and the absolute hysteria surrounding Tiger Woods. You lose the needle so much spoil. The atmosphere Allen told the last few weeks has been electric. You always know what Tigers and the golf course and this week. Obviously I knew that I was rooting for him, but you know, it's a fun and Reno in which to play and so happy. He was able to get the eightieth PJ till victory and actually to do it on a cost like Eastlake which to be honest. I don't thinks that causes search him is what has many others on tour to win his shows. He's really back. He's goal, the shots. He's driving it in play con, have any weaknesses around Eastlake and get the job done first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio, and you heard tiger talking about that. The grind of getting through this course because it's not one where you can go out and just attack attack in the way that he's accustomed to in all of this. Tiger Woods who had quite frankly, was just happy to be out there. Again, he's reiterated this a number of times, and I think two things are interesting now that I really reflect it. And here on that one, the idea of all these golfers dange will we see great players be great for a lot longer than I think we might be used to Serena Williams, Tom Brady Tiger Woods. You see a lot you hear a lot of Justin Rose just said, it's almost apologetic. I know people didn't want me to win. I know they wanted that guy to win. We heard that people facing Serena Williams. That's weird. Understanding that everyone knows these are the stars. These have been the stars and no one's ready to relinquish it yet. Even though as Tigar said, he wasn't sure if this is ever going to be an option to begin with. Again, the low point was not knowing that if I ever Bill to live pain-free again, am I gonna be able to sit and stand walk. Lay down without feeling the pain those in. And I just didn't want to live that way. This is how the rest of my life is going to be. It's gonna be a tough rest of my life. And so I was beyond playing. I didn't want. I mean, I couldn't sit. I couldn't walk. I couldn't lay down without feeling the pain in my back in my leg. So that was a pretty low point and for a very long time. And so for Tiger Woods, he thought that was going to be his norm forever for a while. We thought we were going to live in this norm forever with Tiger Woods on the cusp of winning first and last the podcast. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try to get the flavor. Insanity. Faction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel checkup j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke or vape, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine isn't addictive chemical. First and last podcast hip Jones tweets in the weather here in Michigan yesterday was gorgeous. Tiger leading and winning had me inside watching the honeydew list can wait hashtag book it first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio. The ESPN at Tiger Woods gets his first victory on the PGA tour in a thousand eight hundred seventy five days, and we're all trying to figure out how to comprehend eight eight eight seven two nine, three, seven, seven, six. If you want to weigh on on the shell Pennzoil performance line go to will in Texas. Will you're on first and last Michael junior, what's going on? Hey, good morning. How are you? Good. How are you? Doing great. Hey, I was I just turn off and just watch tiger that had to be one of the greatest things in sports in the last twenty years. I believe it. And I think that's going to be the interesting part yesterday is looking at what happens rating wise when you've got Tiger Woods. Finally getting that win. We've seen the numbers jump on Sunday and tournaments for Tiger Woods all along this path. But now that we saw and we really had a few holes to digest, we were going to be there for that winning moment how that stacks up how this weekend for them stacks up rating wise, against what we saw a football with through the first three weeks of the season in the NFL I feel like has been a great product more often than not. This weekend got turned upside down, got turned on its head a little bit, and I think we really have to look long and hard and we will and who's responsible for that spoiler alert it's the Cleveland Browns. But right now it's for straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best networks. No contracts and. We gotta do we gotta do the NFL hit rule again, the roughing, the quarterback, the roughing, the passer, the thing that is again, going to absolutely. I mean, when you're looking for today, mobile, my dad say, if you're trying to figure out what might go senior over on golick window is going to be furious about, it's going to be clay Matthews being flagged yet again for landing on the quarterback in a game clay Matthews in the Green Bay Packers, go on the road lose to the Washington Redskins and in the process clay Matthews hits Alex Smith as one would want to do in such a situation and gets called again, and was I think, more vocal about his frustration this time. Last time we understand that there's some growing pains of this, but now Klay Matthew seems to be the isolated incident the league. I'm waiting for them to come out and triple down on this. They said after last week's at they said, you know what? We're going to put this out on the tape to show you. This is what we're trying to curb. This is what we're looking to stop, and they said. Matthews hit will be included in that. They got a double down, right? It's just got to be a claim athletes highlight reel of what not to do at this point because it feels like the league versus claim as us and you can hear clay Matthews Packers linebacker starting to feel like maybe it is that personal when you have hit like that. That's a football playing. I even when I went up to Alex Smith game, ask them, you know, what do you think? You know, what can I do differently? Because that's a football player. And of course, you said last week come back to put my body on him. You know, but that's a football point I hit I hit from the front. He's gonna hit across wrapped up. I've never heard of anybody tackling somebody without any hands when he gives himself up as soon as you hit them, you by the way is going to go on. But you know, I think we're looking for the hits. You know that you know that took Aaron out last year. You know that little extra if I wanted to hurt them, I could've. I could've put, you know. So. You know, that's ball, so I don't know know I really don't know. Unfortunately, this leaves don't end direction. I think a lot of people don't like against off first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, and anyone who's been around long enough knows in sports. The worst thing, especially in a sport like football, where your physicality is the number one currency being called soft is the worst thing that you can do clay Matthews squaring that up directly at the league office and saying, you're trying to make the sports off. And I'm not going to be able to give you the same anger from the place that my father comes from. In this, I really have tried to go along as we've talked about the new helmet rule in place, lowering the helmet rule. That's really been a non factor through the early portion of the season. And this roughing, the passer rule that are both trying to curb behavior. And I believe when you look on the NFL level, you can see more concrete examples of players doing a better job of taking the heat off some of these hits of taking care of defenseless receivers of getting to the quarterback and not making them pay as much as they used to. That being said as much as it's worked. If you're the NFL, you've gotta fix this. You've got to change the language of this rule because we're hearing all about how officials are saying that these players our hands are tied. They're telling us to throw these flags. This is the way the rule is written. If that's the way the rule is written, you've got to change that to make it more obvious. It's gotta be and I heard it referenced all day yesterday similar to what we. Through with the catch. You know, the difference of one a guy is trying to cause harm, and I understand you're trying to weed out as many of these instances as possible. Really make sure that you keep your players on the league because listen, what do what we had to deal with yesterday, look what we had to deal with. Finally, a star quarterback going down in a big situation. Jimmy Garoppolo. Forty Niners fears torn as ACL on a play near the end of their game yesterday against the Kansas City Chiefs. And I saw that and I go, all right. Well, we can put the forty Niners to the side for the season. 'cause there's nothing interesting there anymore with them. There's nothing interesting anymore with the San Francisco forty Niners that was Jimmy Garoppolo and what is possible with that team, even if what's possible wasn't the highest ceiling yet. He was still enough to keep them interesting and now that's gone, and that's what the NFL's trying to avoid by protecting these quarterbacks is what can we do knowing our product is so driven by these guys because I'll keep saying it. I think the first three weeks of the season of been so good because look at the quarterbacks and the way they've thrive in an offense of error that the league has curated. All of the defensive rules, whether it's come to pass interference or what, where you can make contact with who and how have all been done to benefit the offense. And it's working if that's their endgame than it's worked. But this is not working because now you attacked the core of football in a way. Then everyone disagrees with Alex Smith Redskins quarterback on the other side when asked about this on a give myself in trouble here. Yes, tough. I'm glad I don't play defense. You talk about strike zone a lot of times of the quarterback. These guys, you know, it's kind of needs the shoulders, right? The Candice in the head and Candice in the knees. When we're in the pocket stuff, I felt like he's playing football play a long time. He hit me right in the strike zone. You know, that's the new rule they put in with the finish in these guys finishing off quarterbacks to the ground. I last Michael junior here on ESPN radio, but of course the man of the hour claim after us. What's he? What's he supposed to do at this point? What's he supposed to do. He feels like there's no place for him to hit him. He feels like he's doing everything he can do adjust. I don't know what you've got left to do and you're going to hear that frustration. The chorus of voices behind it is only going to grow louder. The group of people that join my dad who was early on this hype train because make them stick about it is upset is you'll hear anyone. I think we should just replay ran on Golic and wingo today. Let's save dad's voice a little bit and just replay the ramp from last week because all of that holds true. All of it is exactly what we expected. All of it still holds up in this situation. And now we've got to try and figure out how we make it better. Because if you're the NFL everything's been going so well, you've been adjusting and you show during the preseason. You can adjust to the way the helmet rules officiated and you're willing to change that. I don't know why this is the battle you want to die on because we've already seen them as we mentioned redouble on what they believe is right in this situation with clay Matthews. And now on the other side to show you're willing to fix it, be part of the solution when it comes to how the helmet rules officiated, but you're not going to change this for obvious instances. Where are right? We understand the intent is not malicious. We believe in this situation, we can get away with having a couple of spots where defenders are trying to brace themselves trying. To not hurt the quarterback the almighty commodity because otherwise you're going to get people like Scott van pelt, joining him, dad, they continue way wishing of this call. And as we illustrate the inconsistency of how it is called is an enormous problem for the league. And they tweeted out during the game that this was the right call. No, it isn't. It's an joke, and I am amazed that you guys continue to say this. This is going to hurt you. It's going to hurt you. I don't. Maybe you don't care. And that's always the question with the NFL is with something as big as the NFL. Does it care and does it need to because ultimately, if the product on the field is good in a lot of ways, ones driven by quarterbacks, I think we're always gonna be there for the most part. We've shown over the years tolerance for the things that will put up with coming out of the NFL is pretty high. And so as long as people keep performing, as long as those quarterbacks are on the field and doing well, are we really going to care all that much? Hell I even found myself struggling to get upset about it because it was something I had seen before. I know this is what their end game is. I know they're trying to officiate it in this way and it's not that I don't have sympathy for defensive players. I do, but at some point it's I can't keep getting worked up in that same way every week, right dead. These guys are listening to you. NFL they're listening, they're putting their hands out. They're not driving into the guy there. Following your stinking rules, and you're still throwing this stink and flag. And last the podcast lay Matthews flagged again for a hit landing on the quarterback against Alexander and the Redskins this weekend, Jason imager tweets, and how soon before the NFL puts flags on the QB's and put flag football rules into play just for the quarterback and it sounds like a joke and I've gotten another thing. The flag football line is kind of become overdone. But you hear more and more of it feels like we're just waiting to see when it's touch for the quarterback because yesterday last night, Matt, what we saw out of Sunday night football was, I think a perfect example of that there was a play where Matt Stafford was getting wrapped up in the pocket and Matt Stafford because he's a gunslinger and because he's a strong strong willed quarterback turned himself to the outside while he's getting slung down through the ball out to his running back, and they ended up making a pretty good gain out of it. And I said, I almost wonder if the rest were ready to blow the whistle on that because that seems like the place we're trying to go to in the thing we're trying to avoid is these guys going down and getting hit it all, and you wonder if it presents prevents a lot of place mapping, I think about the David Tyree catch from the Super Bowl, the giants victory over the patriots where Eli manning the most impressive part of that play to me was ally. Manning's Houdini escaping act from the middle of that pocket where he was wrapped up as jersey was getting held onto, and you wonder, now if they blow the whistle there and maybe were deprived of that moment and. Now, on the other side, it's the risk reward. At the same thing we dealt with when people talked about resting NBA stars, which is well, we're missing out on that night. Fans are missing out on seeing LeBron James that night. I said, no fans are getting to see LeBron James and the time of year when it matters most if we believe this is going to help prevent injury. But at what point do we go too far first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Now we had a patriots loss last night. We had a Cowboys loss yesterday, and I feel like those are the only two things that are going to make New York. Giants fans feel good right now, the giants get a win over the Houston Texans yesterday in a game full of teams that we probably overrated on both sides of the ball going into this season to Shawn Watson, this Houston, Texans out that one of the teams people love talking about in the AFC coming into the season because they got their star quarterback who impressed us in seven games. Last year they got JJ watt, perennial defensive player of the year caliber. Player, Whitney mercilus, all these people back from injury. And so we expected they'll pick up right where they left off last year, pushing the patriots in games being one of the bright young stars of the season. Well, so far it's been a mixed bag of returns there because spoiler they still can't protect Shawn Watson, so running for your life on a knee that's now surgically repaired gets a little tougher than one would expect. And then on the other side of things, you've got the giants who kept Eli manning around didn't draft a quarterback, gave him a weapon in saquon Barkley paid Odell, Beckham, junior. So you've got everything around him in place. That defense took a step back last year that I thought was in large part due to how imbalance this team was. You finally bench Eric flowers, you think everything's going in the right direction and still it's it's an okay win in a season where the giants are probably going to be an okay team probably leading the charge. The giants are probably the perfect example of what we're talking about, which I'm not sure that the giants are going to be anything we're talking about this year now that the forty Niners lost Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't think they're going to be anything worth talking about this year. I think they've lost their point of interest, the giants at least maintain their stars, but is the best part of this giant season going to be what the Cowboys don't do or aren't able to do. Because right now that Cowboys team seems to be the best thing about being a giants fan right now. Right? First and last year on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Hell, even in the Cowboys game, the most interesting part about their game now is a guy that's not even on their team. It's the comments that their head coach had to make addressing what's potentially going on with Earl Thomas who was across the sideline is Dallas played the Seahawks yesterday. Jason Garrett. Yesterday when being asked about. The situation surrounding Seahawk safety. Earl, Thomas had this to say. Responsive about. I did not see him after the game in bow was log. Log every issue with after this up. Again, we're focused on our team and what we need to do to play better first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Man, I. I'm so fascinated Earl Thomas by the way who every week I'm golick a window, six to ten AM Easter Monday through Friday. We ask who on the weekend, Earl, Thomas is up. They're getting votes for me because when you look at what this guy pulled off, Earl, Thomas had two picks in that game yesterday. Earl Thomas who did not show up to two practices earlier in the week, and it's probably going to get fined for it. Had an all time quote when he was asked about this after the game. Yesterday being point blanket honest with it, we've talked about players exercising a lot of their power in these certain situation. Earl, Thomas, when asked about missing practice, and this is John Mocatta who tweeted this yesterday and the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed, Earl, Thomas when asked about missing practice, said, quote, I need to make sure my body is one hundred. I'm investing in myself if they were investing in me, I'd be out there practicing, but I feel like if anything, I don't give a damn if it's small, I got a headache. I'm not practicing. Bravo, sir. I look forward to going on Instagram later today and seeing a slew of teenagers posting mirror Salvcies with the caption. I'm investing in myself Earl Thomas, you've found your way into the pop lexicon. My friend, but this is again players taking back their power in an interesting way. As we look at the landscape in the NFL and especially the landscape in the way it's changed once free agency hit and what's going on right now, the NFL's got problems to deal with. They've got this rule to deal with as far as landing on the quarterbacks. They've got the helmet rule that really has been a non factor so far this season in a way that if it weren't for this landing on the quarterback, ROY, everyone be satisfied with. We've seen a couple of very obvious examples of it and we've dealt with them, and this is something that the NFL can work through, I think still, and if they're smart enough to just change the language of this rule to not put refs in this position and to not put defensive players in this position, I think you can still have something here, but I think the one thing that the NFL might not be ready for is all the sudden these players wielding a bigger stick when it comes to where they are, how much they're paid and what they're willing to do until that come. Uh-huh. Because we've seen holdouts take on a different life. I went into this season thinking hold out for no longer and effective weapon for getting the job done in the NFL. And we've got more than a few instances now that back that up first and last the podcast first and last the podcast, and we're all doing this delicate balancing act yesterday on our Sunday, trying to figure out how we're going to watch Tiger Woods finally get over the hump and still take in NFL Sunday. We only get seventeen of them every fall that we're guaranteed than we get the playoffs out. You get what I mean. It's like twenty weekends. Told there'd be no math. Anyway, we're trying to figure out how to balance all that and what a great problem to have, what an embarrassment of riches and with Tiger Woods. It was such a great moment and we'll get more into it. It was such a great moment because Tiger Woods is known commodity in the world to sports right Tiger Woods is one of the few people that we can look at and say, without a shadow of a doubt, they're one of the greatest to ever do what they've done. Tiger Woods LeBron James Serena Williams, Tom Brady, we've got these singular, greats that we know we can count on, but Tiger Woods have fallen down and it had been eighteen hundred days and change since he had gotten his last PGA win and we'd seen him knocking on the door. We'd seen six top ten finishes through the season. We've seen all these things pop up, but we haven't quite gotten that moment and now we got we're looking for and now I wonder if we'll really be better for having it in the long run. But we'll ask that question later because I have a more pressing question. The other thing we're talking about watching it NFL Sunday yesterday, and we're three weeks into the season. Now we got Monday night football coming up tonight. We'll get the cap on that one. The Steelers and the buccaneers is we see one of the most exciting offenses in sports take the field, and I'm not talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers. That is the perfect summary of where we're at this NFL season. ESPN. Radio is presented by progressive insurance cars homes boats motorcycles, RV's, and more at Progresive dot com. Because insane that I feel like it's a reminder of what we don't know at this point. And I know that seems like the headline that we do every year to start the NFL season. But really, you look around the league right now, and I was asked this question, and I saw this question asked by our own meantime on Twitter. Last night is all right. Who are the good teams. When you look around the NFL right now, I feel like we got a bunch of Baltimore's like a bunch of teams that we didn't expect. You know what? Actually the perfect team for this quite frankly. Is the Cincinnati Bengals. We got a bunch of Bengals. We got teams that got names that we know we have AJ green. We have Andy, Dalton, we got the emergence of Joe mixing. We've got great defensive players a great deal line in that group. Gino Atkins Carlos Dunlap. You got a bunch of names that you know stuff. You're familiar with the brand you can trust and Marvin Lewis. He's not gonna win you anything past the month of December. We know all that we see them doing well. We see him starting to in one. It feels like it's going well, but we don't really trust it. We got a bunch of Cincinnati's and Baltimore's right now. I mean, how you look at what happened yesterday, what went on yesterday and we got to ask the question. I never thought I would hear of all the things you thought I was gonna ask you this morning of all the things I thought I was going to come here and talk about this morning. The one question I did not imagine was going to be asked was to Kirk cousins, and I didn't imagine the question was going to be what went wrong versus the Buffalo Bills. What happened. Question, what happened? I can be talking up here for a while, but I just looked at far my land. You know, look at what I can do better, and obviously can't turn the ball over and give their offense a short field. And then we asked too much of our defense having to be out in the field so much little time of possession for us. We need to convert third-down stay on the field to help give them a breather and allow them to stand up when they're out there first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app in a weekend where we saw Old Dominion pull off. One of the biggest upsets in college football history, beating Virginia Tech on their home field. The Buffalo Bills went to Minnesota and pulled off. One of the biggest upsets we've seen as far as point favorites in the last twenty five years in the NFL. What are we supposed to do with that with thought, we knew what the Vikings were. We were with this game was an afterthought on the weekend. This game was about us roasting Buffalo Bills and their Twitter account for putting the wrong Minnesota on the map when they traveled. Which Bravo by the bills for coming back at all that that's why people rock with the bills mafia because they took it owned it beat the Vikings and then had the gall, the tweet in the back end good thing we found the right Minnesota. All you can do is tip your cap, but that's where we're at in this NFL Caesar were there are very few brands you trust like you even look on the top. And right now you look at what we had happened yesterday, the patriots lost last night and Sunday night football to the Detroit Lions. They're wanting to a three way tie for last in the AFC east right now. Of course, in all that Bill Belichick remains unstaged unfazed and continues to spit cliches at us with an unrelenting force of. So this multiple times I'll say, again, we need to do everything better. Play their coach, better, execute better in all three phases of the game. So whenever when you want to bring up its dancers all the same, none of it's good enough. So we've got that which is at least consistent if not troubling an unusual at one into you got the NFC south thunderdome. That's all gas, no breaks defense is optional on that one. We'll see that on display again, let tonight speaking of the AFC east, the dolphins are three. No. Does anyone feel good about that? Ryan tannehill is come back his record as a starter for the dolphins seem staggering. It seems all tied to this one guy to the point where I'm not sure we shouldn't be taking this more seriously, but when you start the season with wins over the Tennessee titans the jets and the raiders, you can understand why we're all kind of going to wait and see still. They get the New England Patriots at New England next week in one that I think will be extremely telling for both sides through the early portion of the season. I say, all this is a means to say that there are really, I think, two teams right now that you can trust in the NFL. I think you can trust the Los Angeles Rams and what they've put on tape. So far, they get a big win yesterday in the battle for Los Angeles over the charges meant. I did anyone else kinda want the chargers to get a win. I just feel like they've been such the afterthought and this whole move back to Los Angeles. Everyone says they just stayed in San Diego. I maybe it's because I like Philip rivers and end up picking him for all my Philip. Rivers is the one player every year that's on all my fantasy teams. I just get to that point in the draft and I'm like, that's value. Pick that guy's gonna throw for a million yards every year Keenan Allen's finally healthy. Mike Williams could be the comeback player of the year. I don't think he technically missed all last season with injury, but hell we knew it was going on that guy's a stud. I kind of wanted this for the charge, but the Rams went out there and did what they did, which is being the most balanced team in professional football, Jared Goff who last year everyone's talk was all he's getting Sean McVay new headset for the entire game going up to the line. They've got this defense, they've got it all. Jared Goff is making the impressive throws. That's an offense that hums in every direction and has a defense that was able to match yesterday. The only thing that could stop the Los Angeles lambs yesterday was somewhat apparently planned funny business with the fire alarm for us. We've really got five up on game day. So those guys are forced into it. Blake Countess has some physician flex, and hopefully that's not a real firearm force right there. So. Okay. In the heat of the Los Angeles Rams performance clearly driving everyone out of that building. But Sean McVay, right there gets to sort of laugh about that because his team's damn good and they know it all the offseason moves that they made pushing into the center of the table and keep deleting Marcus Peters. Both left the game early with small injuries that they don't believe we're going to be serious long-term. But all the off season moves that they've made clearly seem to be paying off in the early going for the Rams. So they're the one you can trust because I think that's the most balanced team in professional football right now. And the other one is on the sheer impressiveness of what they're able to do offensively. And that's the Kansas City Chiefs dad, and everyone else can keep waiting. Mike Golic senior here on golick and wingo who has been waiting and saying, we need to hold off an anointing Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback. And I can understand to an extent, but through three games, if thrown more touchdown passes than anyone through three games to start their career in NFL history, thirteen touchdown passes through the first three games of the season for Patrick Mahomes and this chiefs offense that is so potent forget just the ability for consistent production, but they can score the drop of a hat. They can score in a heartbeat because if it's not Patrick Mahomes throwing the ball ninety yards in the air, it's tyreek hill being able to take a ball ninety yards after getting it from five yards. It's Travis, Kelsey, exposing the middle of your defense Kareem hunt, hey, how you doing reminder that one of the most dynamic offense of players offense rookies from last year is still got this going. Now football outsiders has this metric called which is basically measuring your production relative to what it should be on any given play. How good are you performing on any play versus what the average team would do in the NFL and the Kansas City Chiefs defense was darn near dead last when it comes to that kind of production. This is not a good defense. But that offense is kind of like Golden State. It's going to keep you in so many games. That defensively, if you're Steph curry, who's not a great defender in the NBA, but offensively you're so potent. It's sort of balances out after a while because what you can afford people on that end of the field is so dangerous. So outside of the chiefs and the Rams, I don't know if I've got another team that I'm comfortable saying. Yeah, we can trust that for sure. Right now. Thank you for listening to the first and last podcast. You can listen and subscribe to all ESPN podcast. In the listen tab of the ESPN app. First and last.

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But sometimes when you do that when he flips in the air, you're Ascott head pops off and it's imperative that people don't see who you really are. So they had to like rush over there because that's the never fully understood that. Yeah. Well, this is caused the cougar. Of course. It is. Here's the thing. I think it's it's absolute blasphemy of someone sees the actual mascots face and sometimes they'll be a quote, unquote male cougar? Who might be a female dressed up so they don't want the kids to get freaked out on whether or not 'cause real or not. Because I remember one time trying to interview the gorilla which was the Phoenix. Mascot when I was covering the bulls for radio, when I was told by his handlers, the gorilla doesn't do radio. So mascots sometimes I have a bit of an attitude is this the other, the one other small piece of that that I would throw in and with that ridiculous thought, we welcome you into a brand new hour of get up as we come to you, live from the seaport district at pier seventeen brought to you by chase. I'm greenie. That's Laura. Rutledge. Have Dan Orlovsky and Rex Ryan and Steven as mint in this hour because we're busy. Look, who's back Tiger Woods closes out a win at the tour championship. We'll tell you what that means for hand for us and for the entire world of sports plus concern about that guy, the patriots after another bad loss. You're gonna hear about how one of their biggest stars almost retired before the season began with roughing penalties called it a record. Rain is the NFL doing too much to protect the quarterback to this hour. Get up. Let's go. Obviously, I woke up with a lot of excitement. Yeah, it happened. LA promise you, this will make these. Data did, and we start at the end of the sports day and it was patriots lions, which means it was Bill ballot, check against one of his former assistants, Matt, Patricia. Usually Bellichik dominates those matchup stash Gordon inactive for this one and candidly. So was the entire New England offense which is going to show you there? The final play of their first three drives which all resulted in three and outs. No first downs in their first three drives for the third time since Tom Brady became the starting quarterback in two thousand one Brady trying to extol the troops. You need one good driving to get in the game because they're down thirteen. Nothing. Lip reading by what they were talking about. And then here's Sony, Michelle, and they were goes on third and one going anywhere. Patriots had eight and a half minutes possession in the first half, they would kick a field goal. They'd be down thirteen three. They cut the lead to three points in the lions were driving Stafford and throwing a touchdown to golladay early in the game and now is going to Marvin Jones. Junior, that's thirty three yards. It's a ten point. Detroit lead going into the fourth quarter under eight minutes ago, patriots are down thirteen points or they're still in the game, the looking for a spark in Brady candidates looking anywhere. He can go to find one and there's just no, where to go aimlessly throwing it up into double coverage for doors set. That's Daria slay with the pick raiding, not happy, the lions, a stunning twenty six to ten win. We need to do everything better. Play better, coach, better, execute better in all three phases of the game. So whatever when you want to bring up its answers all the same, none of it's been good enough to weeks two weeks, you know, you get behind and just not make enough plays early in the game and we're behind and we're fighting fill all day. So it's no way to play football. It's no way to. You know, execute at a very high level and we're just not doing any well enough. Consider. Just about the record wanted to other teams, you know, not losing too much ground at standings, things like that, or does that feel early for you. I don't think anybody clinched a playoff spot today on think anybody was eliminated today. Some days. So rob gronkowski had four catches for fifty one yards against the lions. After earlier in the day, it had been reported. The pats in lions were deep in trade discussions for the star tied enduring the off season after the game, Ron confirmed the report that he had threatened also to retire had been treated NET. Happen and Brady's my quarterback. That's all wasn't going anywhere without Brady. So now let's welcome in fell insider. Adam Schefter and had just how close did grunk come to being a Detroit lion out of will lower the week of the draft last year. The two sides had been in discussion, and I think there was an agreement in principle to trade rob gronkowski to Detroit. Now gronkowski found out about it and didn't want to go, and it wasn't anything against a trait. He didn't want to go to any other team. And do you want to leave Tom Brady because that's the only quarterback he wants to play for him. If you'll remember before the draft last year, two days before rob gronkowski went into meet with hatreds officials. And at that meeting, the two sides decided that they would go on together. It came out at that point in time that they admit that rob gronkowski said he wanted to be a patriot for life that was two days before, but what people didn't know is that trade with the lions was basically in place and ready to send gronk to Detroit. Now it didn't go through and it's a good thing for, I think the patriots that it didn't because one of the things that the offense has been lacking, the season has been. Makers and to think that that offense would not have rob gronkowski would make it even more difficult for that team to score points right now, but that Trey was basically going to be done and rob gronkowski didn't want to leave Tom Brady or anywhere from the New England area to go join another team yet nuts to think about them without gronk. Okay. Adam, hang tight. We'll be back with you shortly, but to greenie for a second because we got Seahawks in cowboy Shafii and we got the Earl Thomas situation, the show everybody the game he played yesterday after he's not practicing during the week because he wants to make sure he doesn't get injured. He had not one, but two interceptions against a Cowboy's team, but he fear radically hopes to be treated to that was the first pick off a deflected ball in the second one is gorgeous as the Cowboys were looking, desperately to try and get back in this game late. This is a game in which Dallas has offense look absolutely terrible by the way, and we can talk about that a little bit more later. But the story line here is all about Earl, Thomas. Again, here's the second interception that he would make two picks and seven tackles in this game. He actually would get a taunting penalty for bowing towards the Cowboys. Inch after that. Second pick didn't matter Seahawks win by eleven. No one hundred and I'm visiting myself. I'll be out direct, but if anything down to small, I gotta hit a, I'm not. Taking the wrong way. Far. That is, I don't know that if ever heard of football players, say anything quite like that shefty he's not practicing. He's not putting himself in harm's way and it's not like loving on bell who is just basically not in camp, he's there. So how does this thing resolve itself? Is he gonna get traded greedy? This point, Tom, Earl, Thomas has made it very clear. He wants to either be paid by Seattle, which the have not been willing to do where he wants to be traded. So he's trying to force himself out of Seattle through trade by being late for practice by not practicing the way that Seattle wants by basically being very difficult to deal with during the course of the week and the Seahawks you're gonna find him. It sounds like for conduct detrimental to the team. Well, he goes on and plays the way he does against the Dallas Cowboys. Now, more said, the chiefs have emerged as a team that is interested in acquiring Earl, Thomas Dallas had been interested. All Wong offered a second round pick at some point this summer. Four Earl, Thomas, the Seahawks will more because when you go back to last year, Seattle, surrendered, second and third round draft picks for Duane Brown, a left tackle. Even the left tackle is a more valued position than safety. Generally speaking, Earl, Thomas is a hall of fame player, and so Seattle feels like it. You get more back than a second round draft pick. And so as we get closer to the trade deadline, I think really, Earl, Thomas could be dealt at any point, assuming Seattle's at enough and Seattle is getting to that point very quickly where as good as his play has been, they know that he wants out of there if the Seahawks our own willing to pay him and they haven't been all right. So that's that situation. I saw you on Twitter yesterday on the Levy on bell situation. The Steelers are now listening to offers for Levy on bell. What can you tell? Can you tell us here? This is a change in stance because the Steelers had maintained up until yesterday that they were unwilling to trait Levy on Bill that they would not listen to offers. Now that is changed, and I think it's changed for variety of reasons, Levy on those going to miss his third game tonight he's out jet skiing. They've seen that there's no sign of this ending anytime soon. Right now, they know that he would like a new deal where you'd like the money. Perhaps compensated from what he has missed. So for the games, he's missile, it's a contentious issue that's basically brought about a lot of words from a lot of players. Not a good situation. Pittsburgh knows that if levian Bill leaves after the season, it would probably get back a compensatory third round draft pick and the twenty twenty draft. But if they trade him now maybe they could get more value in the twenty nine thousand nine hundred. The team, that traits for him obviously would have to have a need running back would have to have the cap room and would have to be willing to trade for a player in much the way the Toronto Raptors went ahead and trade of quiet Leonard knowing he's on the last year, the deal, knowing that they might not be able to keep him beyond this year, but knowing also that they'd have a chance to sign Levy. I'm Bill up until free agency began in March. So very interesting. The fact that Pittsburgh is willing to listen and we'll see how the Steelers fair tonight in Tampa a Monday night football without living. I'm Bill once again. Now that this the situation is unbelievable to me. Shefty will rejoin us at a later in this hour with the latest on the town. Quarterback situation. Adam, thank you very much in a few minutes. Now, let's talk about Tiger Woods because yesterday was just an incredible day and it fell right in the middle of NFL. Sunday look at tiger showing up for work, and you just knew when he walked in like that with the gun. Now reading he was as ready as you could mean. Would there be jitters on the first hole for Tiger Woods? He wouldn't answer that question immediately. No, that's his approach on one from one sixty four leaves it just about their ten feet for bird and he's got it. He goes to thirteen hundred, and I tell you what he's playing with ROY McElroy yesterday who did this no of the word to describe it. Justin Rose in the group in front of them fell apart. The tiger effects still exists. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. That's a ten footer on four. That's a four shot lead for Tiger Woods. Take you all the way to thirteen because he had just put it on cruise control. Again, he didn't have to do anything yesterday. He just lead all the contenders fall by the wayside. That's a thirteen foot birdie there. That's a five shot lead. The last real pressure point for him is the. Dangerous par-three with all of the water. It's one of those island greens, and it's just stays dry void that trust barely get there. That thing is six feet shorter than its in the drink. And who knows? Maybe he makes double we're having a different conversation. He would wind up making a bogey, but there would be no issues. And then hearing comes in what was essentially a car ination walk up the eighteenth fairway and look at the crowds. You can watch golf your entire life. You'll never see a picture that looks like that. Again, look at the people look at the picture. Look at what that is telling you. There are almost nothing. There is almost nothing in sports right now. More interesting to more people than golf when Tiger Woods is playing and to say that about that sport is a simply remarkable true fact that's Tiger Woods with the last top shot. He had to hit all day had to make sure that he got up out of that one didn't put himself into all kinds of trouble. Now we just needed to three putt from here, so it's all good. He doesn't have to make this putt, and he does it. He'll wind up going in and tapping that in and for the first time in five. Years. Tiger Woods at one point probably could not have been lifted a trophy above his head after four back surgeries and a fusion is a champion. Again. Eighty pick number and I. Sitting on seventy nine for about five years now and to get eighty is. It's pretty damn good feeling. There is a point time. I didn't know if I'd ever you know do this again. So yeah, I, I appreciate a little bit more than I did because I, I don't take it for granted. I'm going to have another decade two decades in my future of playing golf at at this at this level just to be able to to impede and play again this year. That's a hell of a comeback. Any think they will will react to this wind giving you? Probably just breaking the internet. Well, when I came out here to there was no internet. I love that response and I'd like the little individual stories as well at the flight that you're on up here yesterday. Yeah, everybody had their television turn to tiger which he's talking about. There is no internet. There was probably not vs on flights back last one. So anyway, either way, I think what we're looking at as my entire plane starts clapping for tiger is such a bag. -nificant comeback on multiple levels. It's not just a comeback from the surgery, the injury, all of that, the fusion, there's also a comeback in public perception and the way that people view tighter. And I think as a society, we love comebacks, but I'm fascinated. Why do you think that Rory and company crumbled? Because that's the other fascinating story here because Tiger Woods has an effect on everyone else around him. A particularly got like macaroni grew up idolizing Tiger Woods and his way to entire life for this day. He's got tiger in the final pairing of a significant tournament. It's not a major, but it's a big tournament and a big deal. And from the very beginning, ROY. McElroy had nothing for him and neither did Justin Rose and neither did anybody else. The idea that all these young guns are not intimidated by tiger slowdown. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure. That's true. And I will make this comparison again as I did hear after the PGA championship this year, Tiger Woods playing golf has become like beyond say at Coachella it is more than a sporting event. It is the kind of thing that people you barely know are texting you saying, are you watching this Tiger Woods is quite simply v biggest star in the world of sports right now and for a golfer to be that in the culture in which we live. You take Tiger Woods out of that thing yesterday and no one even knows they're playing the tour championship yesterday, half the media had already flown to Paris for the Ryder Cup. Tiger Woods is the biggest difference maker in sports today in America and anywhere else in the world. We have more to do here. I'm quick where people texting you about Coachella. Yes, absolutely. I was awakened in the middle of a very good sleep saying, are you watching this? It's remarkable. Absolutely. People were don't leave me alone. I'm trying to. Absolutely. I'm watching tiger coming on clay Matthews to another flagged for roughing the passer, and he says he league is getting soft booger McFarland and find out what burger would have done. If he was still playing defensive tackle. If these penalties are hurting the league and coming up, we also we knew that Alabama was going to be good. I don't know that we knew this kid was going to be this good. Dan will tell us how high to us stock may yet Ron. I've gotten to the point where I think people are feeling sorry for clay Matthews who got his third roughing, the passer penalty of the season yesterday, another critical play. This one would have ended a Washington drive, and instead it's another fifteen yard penalty and a game. Green Bay would wind up losing in Washington, and here is a frustrated clay Matthews after the game. Let me bring bogus McFarland into the conversation Monday night football tonight. Slept in his own bed because it's in Tampa. We'll have Steelers and buccaneers, so we'll get to that. But you just heard Klay Matthew say the league is getting soft. What did you think of that fell? This is the second week in a row that when I go to booger McFarland he cannot hear me and I'm starting to think that he's just playing a joke on me at this point. I think that he probably here's me just fine. And now he's just trolling me here by pretending he doesn't hear what I'm saying. I just mentioned that he's going to be doing Monday night football tonight. You will see him, of course, in the entire crew, Jason Witten and Joe test, and everybody else with the Steelers in the buccaneers in Tampa. Tonight. It's a fascinating game for a variety of reasons because it's Patrick has been so good if he plays well, again, tonight, is there any way in the world they take him off the field when the buccaneers play Chicago next week and Jameis Winston is eligible to return. The Steelers we know have been team turmoil and a variety of ways. And so we'll see if they can get the ship back righted as they go head to head tonight. That's eight fifteen eastern on ESPN. We'll take a short time. We'll we'll bring bogut McFarland back. We will also get to this Jimmy Butler wants out of Minnesota. The owner wants him dealt as soon as possible. Stephen eight will be here to help us figure out where that situation. Leads and speaking of disgruntled stars, I just mentioned it. The Steelers may be listening to offers for Levy on bell. We'll get to the bottom of the bizarre situation in Pittsburgh, stay with us and listen closely. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try to get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check o. j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke or vape, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Back on, get up and let's try this again. Here's clay Matthews for the third consecutive week, getting called for roughing the passer and for the second straight week. It was on a huge play one that would have ended a drive and a game where Green Bay was trying to come from behind and beat Washington on the road. They didn't do it Packers lose again, Klay Matthews after the game called the league soft for the way they're making these calls. So let's try again with booger McFarland who, again, it's got Monday night football tonight in Tampa and made his living trying to get to the quarterback. So you heard clay Matthews there, say the league is getting soft. What'd you think of that call. Obviously, I thought it was a terrible call and I don't think the league is soft green. I think the rule is off and I think we all understand what they're trying to do. They're trying to protect a quarterback to make sure those valuable commodities stay up right? Because we all tune in to watch the quarterback. But when you make a hit like that, I mean, that's three weeks in a row for clay maquette. Usually he thought he's made good clean sex, and he gets flagged to me. That's an issue. And what I would do is I would shout on Troy Vincent and Roger Goodell to get out in a three point stance and run full speed at a guy and try to take him down. Oh, by the way, why are you in mid air? Just started levitating in slat to the size, so you're full body. Weight doesn't go against that guy. That's really hard to do it and not truly understand. These are the best athletes in the world, and if they can't do it, it tells you something is wrong with the rule. I understand. And yet we, we also understand that they're doing this to protect the highest paid players, the most important players and all the rest of that. So if you're playing now, what is it you're doing? How are you changing your mind, set your plan, whatever. The case may be to try and keep from getting a fifteen yard penalty while you're still getting to the quarterback. Well, you have to change it on the way to the quarterback because once you get there, it's really too late. And so what they're asking guys to do is really change their mindset. So when you beat your man and you're on the way to quarterback now only do you have to think about think about bringing down Ben Rothlisberger who's six, five and two forty. You have to think about bringing them down softly. Maybe wanna Lael pillow down that we can fall on that would have rep doesn't throw a flag. I mean, you have to do something because these rules are getting ridiculous man. I look forward to this commentary on Monday night tonight and you'll be seeing Ryan Fitzpatrick again for those who don't know Booker, you make your home there in Tampa. So you're sort of absorbing this as all of this goes on. So what are you seeing in Fitzpatrick and what do you expect to happen tonight? Let's say he plays well, what happens next week? If he doesn't play? Well, what happens next week? Where is the Tampa quarterback situation when Winston is available to come back after this game? Well, thank you have a guy in Ryan Fitzpatrick playing with a lot of confidence playing a no-holds-barred mentality because he realized you know what only have a couple of years left in this league. So when I get out there, I'm going to football around to shine Jackson, Mike, given. I'm hitting the ball to open man and he's playing very, very fearless. And I think he's one this team over because they're completing the Deibel down to feel their leading Lee in explosive plays. So their offenses, throbbing, as they move forward. I think the Sean Jackson said it the best. You can't take the hot hand out. I understand Jameson Winston, he's still the quarterback of the future. He's still a guy in Tampa that they want to build around five to ten years down the road. But Dr cutter has to win right now. And I think right now Ryan fits magic is going to be the guy for the foreseeable future. Give me a sense of what does the foreseeable future mean? Does he get one bad game? Does he get to bed games? We know his history. He's not this quarterback for a sixteen game season. What does he get for? They go back to Winston. Why? I think he gets three weeks to a month because we have to realize it Winston isn't ready to play right now. Like he hasn't been in the football facility in three weeks. So even if he were to come back and wanted to put him in right now, I don't think he's ready. So he has to get back up to football speed, learn the plays, get into the rhythm, get his body back used to dealing with football type plays getting Nick, getting hit. That's going to take a couple of weeks. So even if you wanted to put him in now, I don't think he's ready. So I think you're going to see Ryan Fitzpatrick for another three weeks to a month. All right. And then finally booger on the very first day of this show of get up on April second of this year, you and I stood on the roof of this building where I am sitting right now in the snow and talked about golf here. We are five months later, and Tiger Woods has won an event, and we saw all the things that happened this weekend. No one loves golf more. Than you do. What was your takeaway from yesterday. Well, I was emotionally. It was almost as if I want I. I mean, it was a small tear that was coming down my just because you know, when you've been Tigers fan, you dealt with him and you, you rode the roller cook the ups and downs. You're always seeing if he's going to withdraw. It's back going to hurt and to see him persevere to get to the point where he is now where we're talking about, not only him winning turnament. Now he's the odds on favorite to win the masters next year to me that just shows you where he's come and as a guy that grew up into tiger generation, I couldn't be more proud of a guy that we all look up to because we all can relate to being a golfer. You go out and you shoot eighty-five greenie. You're a static. I shoot eighty five a miserable Tigers. She's eighty five. He might quit, but we all can relate to golf. And I think that's why we're so enamored with this comeback and I'm truly happy for the guy. Don't think he just snuck that passed me by the way. Let the world now. I am a better golfer than booger McFarland I don't care what he says. The next time I see you. I'm taking every penny that they're paying you to do this Monday night gig right now. Okay. But we are looking forward to tonight. We will see you tonight in the Booker chair as you were hovering around the field there in Tampa Steelers in buccaneers, looking forward to it. Thank you. My friend. Anytime buddy. That's the great broker crawling, whether it's okay, we got Stephen here ready to go. I got basketball stories for him. So over this weekend, let's catch up on all the things that happen. Karl Anthony towns agrees to a five year. One hundred ninety million dollar extension. That's the max according to our, whoa, it's the supermax deal. There's all kinds of money involved in all of this. The bottom line of it is he is the future of the Minnesota Timberwolves in every way which means Jimmy Butler is most certainly not Timberwolves owner. Glen Taylor wants Butler traded potentially by tomorrow so far few franchises, if any are engaged in serious conversations with the t. wolves. That's also according to, whoa, JR is a bunch of teams that seem to be interested in Brooklyn -troit's Houston, the clippers Miami Philadelphia, the Cavs. Let's see where it all goes. Let's bring the one the only Stephen a Smith. I'm sorry, Jaylen isn't here this morning. I will do my best. I'm not. Sorry. Listen, you know, Jalen has been beat up pretty bad. He held for the last few weeks in. He needed a break needed a reprieve from it. We understand. I sincerely hope he recovers. Okay. Let me just say, I love the way you were dressed. So I get that out of the way so we didn't have to have that part of the conversation, Minnesota. What's going to happen with Jimmy Butler? And are they getting this thing right now? He's going to be going, he's going to be going. He doesn't want to be there and he has minimal respect for Andrew Wiggins and individually believes. Place for his money more so than place for winning basketball games call Anthony towns obviously is an ultra talent worthy of the max. Considering that it's Minnesota and you know what you ain't gonna be able to recruit anybody in Minnesota. You've got to hold on to what you got. If he's willing to sign that Mex you had to take care of 'em. No question. He's a young stud, but everybody has known at call. Anthony towns is the future. This franchisees face it. His Francesco Jimmy Butler wasn't averse to that. He just wanted him to care about winning just as much as he cares about his numbers and not supposed to Jimmy Butler. He said that wasn't the case he doesn't. He believes that call, Anthony does care, but he's going to be more forthcoming in the days to come. He just wants everything to go down in the end. He has to end up somewhere. Jimmy Butler is hard knows he's hardcore. He wants to compete and let's face reality you to Minnesota Timberwolves. You can't compete. The best thing you have going for you is the fact that you got to the players and you got bounced out in the first round and five games by Houston. This is not a championship contender. Jimmy Butler wants to find himself in ideal situation where he's in a major market or he's in a. A championship contender in the preference would be both, but but let me just I, I agree with your premise that they're not a championship contender, but then something is missing because you have a supermax contract in Karl Anthony towns. When you have a max contract, Andrew Wiggins, and you have a perennial all star in Jimmy Butler. That should be the making of a championship team. So why isn't it if you have three guys that that way they're paid like, superstar, why are they so much less give my words, but it's just a cute question, and here's what why good enough? Because they don't have James auto and it'll have Russell Westbrook and it'll have Steph curry, and you'll have Kevin Durant and they don't have Klay Thompson, and they don't have LeBron James, he's got paid like they are these people. Again, somebody depends on the market. You can't have everybody. So if you're in Minnesota? Yes, even though the poss that you have aren't good enough, you know that they're the best parts that are available to you and they're going to command what the market says. They're allowed if you the Minnesota Timberwolves, can you afford to lose call Anthony towns. Eighty two games a season forty-one home gives. You cannot you cannot do that. And that is the. That's why you see guys that. And I'm not saying this is the case about calling Anthony towns specifically. But you see God's getting paid max dollars, then ain't max players, but you got to pay them the max because the market says, if you are the face of the franchise, that is what you gonna. Why isn't he Amax? Why shouldn't he be max play? Super. It's not. I agree with you. Put it with point guard or not. I specifically said, I'm not alluded to call Anthony towns specifically. What are you talking audit? Well, Wiggins is a good player, but is he worth twenty nine million a you? Why the hell? They give it to him then because you got Wiggins. He's a young guy to come up, you're paying for potential and more importantly, you can't get access to the other because who's coming to medicine, do you understand? We are in the sports broadcasting business, and I want to go to Minnesota. Why would that what? Why you'll get out of the other people that want to go to Minnesota Al coat. Jimmy Butler, Andrew, Wiggins. Me personally, I would rather have Jimmy to that. Why are they getting rid of him and keeping Andrew, Incas Butler wants out one out if Andrew Wiggin hate him, Andrew, Wiggins, Minnesota for reason grease. So he just wanted to add to that a Minnesota, you understand. And if you listen, I was there for the Super Bowl. I didn't want to get out to call. Yes, I agree go, it was I did. I left the Super Bowl a day earlier to get out. I understand that I got into the Monja at the Super Bowl and not just let's be honest about, let's be real about places that people don't want to go to go to for the money. They go to for the situation, but do they really, really want to go to wing and goes on vacation, heard you say, gotta get to Minnesota. In the summertime, they have a lot of ways hold, but you don't. So the bottom line of it is because I only have a second, where's Jimmy Butler? Gonna wind up in when I have no clue. Found Philadelphia try get my hands on them. If I'm the clippers I tried to get my hands on. Those are the two things that two teams that I think should be looking at him, whether that's going to be the case in that remains to be seen. But I think Philly would been Simmons being that point guard with Joel Embiid the acting Philly should try and get them really this week. Like as soon as today, I think it could happen today, but I think it may happen earlier this week because the owner has said, look, this is what the situation is. John Tom does not want to do it, but Tom better be concerned about his job. All right. Because right now he's on shaky ground, Stephen and I take twenty five minutes coast to coast. All right here on ESPN right after we wrap up. Thank you. My man always great to see you now talk about the best player in college football. To has been. The guy from the very beginning has looked outstanding. Taken the time to the end zone. All right, Dan. So Nick Sabin said after Alabama, beat, Texas, m. handedly stop saying good things about this team, right? The bad things, right? The things that we need to work on you earlier on in the season called to its vilo, the LeBron James of college football don't tell Nick Sabin that if you're watching, he's not. He actually watches the Weather Channel. But anyway, what do you think about that statement now? Do you stand by a double down on Lutely. I mean, we're watching to play. He's just doing stuff. We have not seen this early and part of him playing the sm-. The sample size is part of it the way he's executing their offense. Throwing ball within patient seeing coverage, all types of throws the accuracy, laurel, he's had a ninety, five plus quarterback rating four games in a row that has never been done before. That's the LeBron part is we're watching a guy do something we've never seen done, and that's absolutely remarkable. Fourteen touchdowns no interceptions he's by far the best player in college football? Yeah. And you would say in the SEC west Texas m. might have been at least a contender to take on Alabama. They do still have to go to LSU. So that should be a difficult one. And they have to play Auburn, who knows? Maybe they'll run into something one other note onto it. He was thirteen for thirteen on third down before going into that game. I, I mean, even not completed a third down. Right now on third down is average yards per completion, twenty yards. All right. We gotta stop positive. Let's get back to the NFL run the hurry up on some topics that we've got here for you, and we begin as we were slow getting to the hurry up there. But here we are. It was not pretty the titans managed to beat the Jaguars yesterday. The final score nine to six, Blake Bortles could not get it done with one or two, four net out. How concerning is this? I mean, did not give up a touchdown. Them lose is not a good thing. If you're a team that's saying, hey, we're going to go win the AFC championship or at least content for it. Well, you know what? I got to imagine that the Tennessee titans defense who are in that division was just tired of hearing about the Jacksonville, Jaguars demons and wanted to play some other own Marcus mariota came in played pretty good football ring around a little bit. I still want to see him develop a little bit more and that offense, but kudos to the titans defense. Yeah, we know his legs are good as for Mario to. Let's take a look back at the Sunday night game, the lions stunning the patriots who just couldn't get started on offense. How. How worried to the patriots be up the three games. They've got holes. They've got issues, and I said, if there's no core, but I wanna make this about the lines I've I've played there and I know what it's like to not have that running game last night. We finally saw running game out of the lines, wrote that historic streak hundred yards. And we saw a little bit of a different team. They played really good defense, Matt, Patricia, beat Bill Belichick. It kind of his own game played a ton of zone, doubled Brock within the zone. Let's take our hats off to the lions for doing a good job of taken down the pets. Yeah, they do the patriots get Julian Edelman back at some point since. So all the focus on the Packers Redskins in that game was on clay Matthews hit, but the bigger news out of Washington, maybe that the Packers lost their now one in one, we be concerned about Green Bay. Dan, that's -solutely and the biggest thing is I'm a little bit concerned about Rogers, one of the greatest ever and it's not him. It's his knee and they've got to think about maybe giving him a break here because Aaron Rodgers out of the pocket. It is the greatest weapon that the NFL's ever seen. I in that then you right right now we yesterday was three ten outside of the pocket. The used to be absolute killer, and I think it's because that name. Yeah. Well, he's obviously playing not one hundred percent. Finally it, let's talk about the biggest upset of the week in the bills walking in Minnesota, where parents even as says, no one wants to live with a rookie quarterback and Neilly in the Vikings and a game that was never closed in what went wrong with the Vikings in this one. Well, Stephen, I should also be the spokesperson for five hour energy, but early on just a bunch of turnovers. They got a bunch of turnovers in their back end buffalo capitalized on it. The most impressive thing was how Josh Allen kind of put the team on his back because he's been criticized a little bit. Put the team on his back and said, follow me, and I give a lot of credit to him in their offense coordinator Brian day, Cabell designed some nice stuff to put him in space, double move. So good for buffalo after that week with vantera Davis retiring right game last week to handle all that stuff and play well. On the road with the wind good job by them Rex's itching to get in on the Vikings, God on them. Well, I think number one, the card that Sean McDermott played was the disrespect card because all of a sudden now Dow cook late in the week, he shows up. He's not gonna play. Everson Griffen doesn't play. So you sit back saying you don't need these players to play against us. I promise you that would be the message I would send in my team and that's what the Bill showed up that way. They showed up just with a mentality. They'd beat the heck out of the Vikings. The Vikings showed up like they can lay their jocks out there and win a game that doesn't happen in this league. All right. All these guys are on scholarship here in this league. And if you're not at your very best, you're going to get beat by anybody in the league. And I my, my tip my hat to the bills, and especially Jerry Hughes, they'd better find a way to block. This guy has he looked possessed on that field and he was nominal in that entire defense was phenomenal. He was dominant. There's four or five times. He comes off the humps. Strip sack, and that's what generated that big lead for them. Early on somebody tweeted yesterday that maybe yesterday was an example of why nobody in the NFL is that good except the Rams? I actually think your point is very valid in the sense that there are a lot of good teams. You can't take a day off now to chew up. You've got to be at your very best. It's hard to do because you got sixteen games, but guess what I mean, if you're going to assume that you can just show up and beat a team, you know, chance of that. All right. Sportscenter with Scott van pelt tonight after Monday night football, it's on ESPN and he'll talk with Steph curry on NBA media day plus LeBron and the Lakers sports in our conversation with King James in the worst feats of the weekends, sportscenter with VP after Steelers bucks on ESPN, also streaming live on the ESPN app coming up, big took more than five years for tiger to go from his seventy ninth career win to his eightieth. And Tom Rinaldi will show us what it took to get back to winning form. That's don't get up. Pretty damn good field. It was what a year. It's been the golf world rejoicing Tiger Woods. Once again, hosting a trophy. He'd been sitting on seventy nine career wins for over five years. Now, he finally has that elusive when number eighty, and if it had not been for a birdie that Justin Rose made yesterday on the eighteenth hole tiger not only would have won the tournament. He would have won the FedEx Cup with came with a ten million dollar prize. And after what was a remarkable day in every single way, our Tom Rinaldi to look took a look back at what all of this meant. It was there in every season started every charge mounted every hope ignited in every setback, sucker every challenge chronicle every hope worded. It was there in what we saw in what he sensed in what we said and what he heard. It was there the unresolved question, the nagging burden, the fifteenth club. Doubt. And after five, long years, forty, four unfulfilled start eighteen hundred seventy four hard day's Tiger Woods has defeated. Winner. The only way he could with Yoni standard. He saw. But Sunday, he gained something more than victim woods earn proof. Of what for the answer. Look beyond the joy of the moment. Look through the lens of just his last twelve months a year ago at this time as woods has repeatedly said he didn't know that he'd ever be on tour again, ever swing without pain, ever make a cut ever matter on a weekend. I am progressing. I'm starting to come back in this gonna take a little time. Entering this season. He was ranked outside the top six hundred fifty in the world. He returned as the most important and least certain figure in his sport, a physical curiosity with a fused back and dimming, or. But he was willing to reenter the arena and answer to questions as the world watched scrutinized analyzed as examined as any athlete on earth, and then start by star. 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And then of course, Tampa will have a decision to make after tonight because James Winston, we'll be eligible to return from a three game suspension. Here's shefty with an interesting story on the quarterback situation in Tampa. Really, interestingly bring it back to what you make of that. I heard shefty he mentioned that to merely I don't know what to make of that. What does it mean that Winston was saying, he's going to be unbelievable here. I mean, who knows? But. I think that's his biggest fear was that fits would play the way dead that he really believe it. I don't know if he believed that are not, but you know what he had the opportunity is. Is his own fault that he got the opportunity, guess what fits magic. His has actually done that, you know? So I just think it's whether he believe it or not guess what he did it so get your, but on the Ben has he may James look, Matt, Jameis. Winston looked worth based upon how well Fitzpatrick is play. Absolutely. Because it now her James, it's much more about some of the antics of his past than some of the stuff he's done on the field. And then the biggest thing is James knows how talented team is. I mean with, gee, Howard and Cameron braid Godwin and Mike Evans and Sean Jackson, Ronald Jones. That's what he made that comment because he's able to see, I've got dudes that I can get the ball to a lot of those guys were there last year though, and this offense to look like, I'll go back to last week. James had a good year lashed here before some injury. He had a good year. What are you doing? You're the coach legit again, this job back, twelve o one tonight. No, I think they absolutely have to keep writing a hot hand. The one thing that everyone kind of hasn't it back of their mind. Fits fits magic in turn back into Fitz Patrick because that seems to happen to him. If you look at this look, Dame's Winston's a better quarterback. There's a reason he was a number one overall pick. 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April 9  Hour 1  Which Current Colorado Pro Athlete Will Have the Best Career?

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April 9 Hour 1 Which Current Colorado Pro Athlete Will Have the Best Career?

"And mets after the twelve o'clock hour good afternoon northern Colorado. This is the whole show powered by PVC energy. I am brady hole with me as always running the show from the other side of the bulletproof glass Mr Colefax. How are you man? Good good to see it to see as well we've We've got our movie figured out for for tonight. We do is we could mark Johnson. Put this one in her head. Yes theme Western theme. But we're not going to go tooled school here. We'll go nineties right going to go with And I'm I'm curious to see if any of the Hogan's of have watched this or what your thoughts are we'll give it our rating system. We do the rounds. Like the draft is in a first round. Pick mid round undrafted. That kind of thing tombstone going though. Val kilmer Kurt Russell. So I'm excited pumped to watch this one and you said you're you're so excited you're going to get yourself a tombstone. Beat him so kind of guy. I think you have to do that. I'm pretty sure you have to so I'm a pump for this one last week. We did white. Men can't jump. I think we both agreed that it was about a second late. Second Round early. Second Round for you. I said maybe late second yeah. It's a really good movie. It's a good movie to hit first round you. It's gotta be epic it's gotTA BE SPECIAL AND IS WHITE. Men Can't jump special movie probably not probably not like one of those where you go. Oh gotTA stranded on a Desert Island? That's the one I wanNA watch. Its own kind of special. Yeah it's his own kind of special to great movie could move some good things if you're you'll third and fourth round you're kind of getting into not bad not bad you know. I don't know that I'm really recommend it. And then you get into that fifth sixth seventh round and it's like I don't enjoy this. It was tough for me just to get through but yeah well okay. Swami's already saying. Oh that's an easy first round pick. We'll see I'm I want to hear from the whole organs on this. Watch it with us. Those of you go watch it tonight and tweet at me. Whatever that's our movie that is our of the week is going we're going to. We're going to be reviewing tombstone and we'll do that tomorrow afternoon. And I love these segments man. We're not going to do like maybe we'll get into some new stuff once in a while but we're also going to just go through movies that were fairly popular and we might go through some crappy ones too. We've had some suggestions and I don't know if I'm ready to take that plunge just yet colfax on some of these so bad they're good movies the shark NATO's of the world. Yeah Yeah if we do that we might have to do like a bad good movie or bad movie and then just like an actual good movie. Yeah I think so. You gotta find something that's just like a guaranteed you and it doesn't have to be movies that we have seen or haven't seen necessarily. I mean it can be. It can be anything but watch with tonight. Poland's or you end. We got tombstone on the docket today. You can watch it. You can watch it anytime I suppose. Some of you are at home right now taken. Whatever you're doing I duNno. Noobs already grading this given in a mid first rounder so already good reviews from the whole again so that should that should make you excited. Colefax. I'm excited. How long is the movie though? Oh I think it's pretty long long. Yeah I think it's a long movie. Yeah I think it's it's it's one of those really good movies. It's two hours and fourteen minutes. Okay let's not terrible. That's on the longer side you can get through that like Lord of the rings no no. It's not a three hour type deal but yeah he got to tell the story here. You gotta take some time to tell a good story so two hours fourteen minutes all. Apparently that'll do it for you. First advantage text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. I'm curious to get your thoughts on that one. So tombstone is GonNa be our review tomorrow. We'll get after that. I love these. These are so much fun. I'm curious to hear from the whole against what you think of these because when we do have games again. I'd like to get your thoughts. Do we keep going with. This is something where we maybe. We don't do it on Fridays because listen during football season Fridays. There's so much happening on a Friday. So we'll get your thoughts on that when I events text line. Three one nine six our power to play sports poll question of the day. Get into a lot of these we get we get into these discussions anyway but especially now. They're fun to look at the. You know which quarterback would you like to have this kind of whatever all those things how about this? Colfax Way. It's all said and done when all four of these guys retired because I think we can all agree on one thing some great players in Denver when it comes to our pro sports team of the Big Four. But these four are the top of their franchise. Nathan MacKinnon for the avs Nolan Ernani for the Rockies von Miller for the broncos and Nicole Yokich for the nuggets when it's all said and done when all four of these guys retire who's going to have the better career like right now it's von Miller. I mean can we agree on that Super Bowl Victory Super Bowl? Mvp He leads the Broncos all time and sacks he's like twenty fifth all-time in the NFL and sacks. He is eight pro bowl three first team. All Pros Five playoff appearances. And he's been to two super bowls so now he's a defense. He's a linebacker slash blitzing linebacker defensive end slash linebacker right so kenny impact. The game like an ordinary Nado or Nathan MacKinnon and Nicole. Yokich can no because again football. Football's always a tough crossover to compare. Because you're only playing one side of the field one side of the ball and especially at the end or linebacker. You can his position. You're impacting the game. Basically by sacking the quarterback guy like Nicole. Yokich can impact the game and several ways. Nathan MacKinnon can impact the game in several ways. Nolan can be a great third baseman but he can also do it on the offensive side. But I do think that right now. Yeah it's it's von Miller you've got you. GotTa take the Super Bowl. Vp into account. That goes a long way But when it's all said and done Nolan. Let's let's for for today. Let's pretend that Nolan. And Jeff Brighter. Our and it works out. And you're going to see Nolan for the next eight years as a Colorado Rocky. Do you think that it's going to be knowing? Aaron auto you know. I A lot of votes for him at this point but right now it's tied got thirty. One percent saying VAUGHN thirty one percent say Nola Nicola Yokich getting absolutely no love on one go to the whole show dot com to vote only ten percent of the holy guns saying Nicole. Yokich a three. A couple of comments lane says a great question. It's not it's it's not very possible to compare athletes from different sports. Yeah try he does try Nolan arguably the greatest third basement of play the game. He's got a lot left in the tank in a sport. That is probably easier on the body. Von Peaked out during the Super Bowl and put up some amazing performances. Nathan has been great but I'm not sure he's the best ever play for a team and that's not a knock but we had some great ones joker so young so talented and plays the game in a way that saves his body very efficient can stay in shape and you know can the nuggets. Keep them here as much as I love. Von My vote is GonNa be Nolan. He is the top three all-time third baseman. It could easily be the best ever. That is something that you have to weigh. Then I guess when you talk about great careers overall you do have to mix in. You have to mix in their individual performance. You have to mix in what they've brought to their team and when you're looking at playoffs Vaughn is leading there to Vaughn's been to five playoffs and he's been a big part of that. Those playoff years were great. Peyton manning certainly helped but those playoff years were certainly involved being one of the best players on that team for the longest time. Now it's fifteen percent coach so kind of moving the needle go to the whole show dot com power play. Sports poll question of the day. Nathan MacKinnon was number number one. Pick in the two thousand thirteen draft. He was a finalist in two thousand. Seventeen for the Hart trophy. He's been to two all star has had to. I believe he's had three all star appearances and been in the playoffs three times. So he's getting up there but he's been to the playoffs three times. They lost in the first round. Fourteen lost the first round in Eighteen. And then they won in the first round one the first round loss the second round in the two thousand eighteen nineteen sees it. Nolan Aaron auto well the Rockies have been have been to the playoffs very much what five times well two of those times was in the Nolan Aeronautics era but you know they got better than than last year suddenly was a dud but they get to the wildcard they lose they they and then the next year they win the wild card? Nicoli okay just last year. That was it. That's the only playoff appearance. We've seen. They did win in the first round. But Yeah I think this is going to be a fun debate. I'm curious to get your thoughts on this one text. The first advantage text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six new says he's only been to one super bowl. He was hurt for the first one but been to a super bowl. I mean that season leading into it was. You can't get there without the entire team working together. So I mean that's he was there for the season so you do have to look at that side of it but he very successful season for the most part Dickson saying. When is the last time you remember? Vaughn impacting a game Listen that's not necessarily the discussion. I mean right now based on these guys and the trajectory mean if you assume no one's going to be a rocky for eight years is not going to pass that. If you soon to call Yokich vin finishes his careers and Nugget. Is he going to get there? And I guess the question is not necessarily their career in Denver. They could go on and do great things outside of it but these are the four. These are the four guys right now when you look at each team and the best player best overall player for this group. I don't care von. Hasn't been that impactful lately. He's still a top top player in the state of Colorado. So I want your thoughts on this one. First advantage text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six go vote when it's all said and done who is going to have the better career It's like right. Now it's Vaughn. But clearly he's on his way he's on his way out he's going to have you know he's got what this year that another year next year in two years. It'll be done. Probably maybe because he retired two years Let's see the Weld County. Swamy Dixon Hates Vaughn and loves bolt loves bowls because 'cause Kansas City can get to quarterback because of polls I think that's what he was meaning. They're his vote. Should be for Vaughn. Because he hates him so much means he is doing something right. Dixon says Vaughn had a nice start to his career but has faded dramatically and it is just an average player now and has been for the last four years we got We got the law launch stirs up to launcher. What's happening my man. Hey you know what we're doing okay on this on this. Thursday. I'm doing good myself here to hear my friend. Hey you're going to weigh in on our poll question. Oh yes I am. Who's WHO's Miller von Miller? Even even though he's kind of faded he might need another good year to really cement that fact. But you're going with von Miller. Yes I have been no. He was voted in the what the decade holiday. Whatever that and those are. There's a lot of those awards to you. Definitely want through I. I'm basically looking at the actual. Nfl like the actual NFL. Wards the pro bowls the first team all pros those kind of things but yeah. You're exactly right. That's something you have to add to it. And plus two. I think this guy has really turned his life around to a little bit too. Yeah I know when he started you know he he gets he gets suspended with by using marijuana. You're wondering how dedicated he is to the Denver broncos overall and then he gets hurt that year that was his third year and then boom he'd be he becomes the face of the franchise he's been He's certainly been a favourite amongst bronco fans. Yeah he really has. I think you've been proven. I was worried and everything like that. Too launcer what's for lunch today. My man well today is my birthday. Your birthday dude. Happy Birthday Lawn Sir. Thank you so. My family made me a bullet green chilly for lunch. That's perfect crackers and some tomatoes and little fritos and hot sauce into it. I didn't get better than that doesn't get better. That belonged sir. Appreciate always happy birthday my friend. Thank you very much. Eighteen minutes. After the hour first advantage text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six a great hall of Famer right there in the launch. Turn he's saying it's von Miller von Miller when it's all said and done it's going to have it now. There's a lot of what ifs but again. This is the prediction game. We're doing the prediction game here. If you are looking at the the trajectory of the careers I mean Nathan MacKinnon. The avs were poised to go to another playoffs this year. And probably be a contender. I mean if Nathan MacKinnon. I'm not the biggest hockey guy in the world but you can't ignore his statue. Can't ignore this avs team getting into the playoffs he is. He's one of the top players in all of hockey. He is a game changer without him. The avs are not nearly as good and they listen they had they. He was her off and on this season. And the Arabs. Were kind of up and down. But no doubt when he's there. He makes them a true contender. Nicole Yokich I mean. Let's face it if Yokich is not on the roster if he's hurt let's just say they start the playoffs tomorrow and Yokich isn't there. Do you give the nuggets at a shot to be anybody. That's in the playoff. Seen Without Nicole Yokich rob ably not mean they. They base everything they do. Around the joker. Okay Colfax in other news today. Let's let's get to the big story of the day presented by FM S. Bank banking made. Simple wonder what the future's going to look like for the nuggets now. The Chicago Bulls are set to hire our tourist. Karnishovas can never say his name correctly. Karnishovas who is now taking over as the new. Vp OF OPERATIONS Vice President of basketball operations for the Chicago Bulls. So I'm going to have Chris Dempsey on to talk with us in the second hour. Arturas has been sensational. Tim Connelly's been sensational. Who is the one most responsible and I guess we're GONNA find out very soon but he has been a huge part of everything that the nuggets have done for the last several years Great Guy. Chicago gets an excellent higher there and for the last couple of years. The nuggets have been a place where you know you look beside year. That was in the George Karl regime. Toronto gets him and look what happened with Toronto. You know now you look at our tourists and he's probably GonNa Chicago and do some really good things. So it's our big story. Today presented by infamous bank banking made simple twenty one minutes after the hour. Our POWER PLAY SPORTS POLL QUESTION. Love this one. Love this debate curious to see who's GonNa win this who will have the better career. When it's all said and done von Miller Nolan Arnaldo Nathan MacKinnon or Nicola Yokich go vote online at the whole show dot com. We'll be right back. You're listening to the hall's show powered by PDC energy on thirteen ten KFI K. Brady will be back after the break. Get Your Day started right with today's news weather and sports mornings with sales six. Am to nine PM. Weekdays on thirteen ten K. F. K. Lender head men's basketball coach at the University of Wyoming Cowboys. And you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi Gay welcome back to the show our power to play sports poll question of the day. Who's going to have a better career? When it's all said and done Nathan MacKinnon Nolan Iron Auto Nicole Yokich or von Miller. And I'm kind of surprised right now. Not a Lotta love for the joker at this stage. Who who do. I think it's going to be. That's that's a tough one thing about this question last night and decided to post it up this morning wanted to get your thoughts. I mean right now. The answer is yes. Von Miller has the best career if you're if you're not pretending that Nolan is going to be in harmony with Jeff Pride and and he's going to be gone well. The question still holds true because we're asking career. Nolan is the best third baseman arguably the best third baseman in baseball. Certainly the best third baseman the rockies have ever seen. That's that's that carries a lot of weight but only two playoff appearances. They went backwards last year. There is some uncertainty about. You know what's next in his career you know. We don't know where he's going to end up. He wants to be on a contender. So either way you want to slice that he's if the rockies can't prove that they're going to be a legitimate contender or lease stay consistent playoff team then. Yeah he's he's GonNa want out of there and the rockies will move on probably trade him next year in two years. Whatever he's got the we got to get to those get to the two years into that contract where they can make a decision so it does kind of depend. I'm losing my voice. Their Colefax allergies right every time. Everyone's freaking out every time you cough now but you do have to look at where he might go now more than likely if the rockies don't build him up hopefully they do him a favor and get him to a team that that's hard to predict that is the thing that's hurting. Nolan. Right now is the uncertainty of his career will be Iraqi will the rockies continue to well the rockies continued to be passive when it comes to free agency and rebuilding a team. Will he go to a contender and then do we see okay? Well he's a great third baseman and now he's actually winning playoff games and winning playoff series and being a contender and whatever division that is so there are a lot of big question marks out there. Nathan Mackinnon I mean. I think we can all agree that the avs once we get back to normal somewhat the APPS for the next five years should be competitors for the Stanley Cup every year. Seriously there there are right now when you look at the most successful franchise right now not overall but just today the best team in Colorado the APPS. The avs were a favourite the nuggets. They're good but they were not considered better than the Lakers. Knock consider better than the clippers. Not consider better in the Bucks. I think the Avs you talk to ten. Nhl Insiders. And I think more than half of them were going to sell at least half of them are GonNa Tell Ya. The avs are probably the best team in the NHL. So that's a legitimate thing before we break here Colefax quickly. I don't know if this is good. Timing bad timing or Wa but Todd Gurley and Klay Matthew say. They're still waiting on their paychecks. I saw his tweet last night. Todd Gurley tweets at Rams Past. Do Send me money ace APP though. It's been twenty four hours. Got My money. I just give me till Friday. I'll have it for you. That's funny I could have sworn I said have it today. Yeah I don't have it. Sorry Ho right her wisman every psychopath cleaning up the best thing ever. That's totally what I saw. I don't know the tweeting it out is the right thing. But it's certainly getting people's attention and it's a strange time to do it but if he's owed money they released him and if he's owed money. I guess he has a gripe. I just don't understand why we bring our business to social media now. But that's what that's the world that we live in. Clay Matthews responded. Has He was released by the Rams and said you and me both better get some interest with that too man handle your business like I duNno. Colefax an adult. But that's just me I. I do have a problem with airing out your dirty laundry on social media. I get that you can get attention that way. And maybe the rams you make the rams look bad but it's time to grow up in that part does frustrate me a bit thirty minutes after the hour. We'll get more into the poll question. We are going to talk to a good friend of the show. We haven't talked to in a while. But Steve Fairchild. We're GONNA go through all the top five quarterbacks coming up in the draft get his thoughts there Get his thoughts on on a local Guy Jacob Nip in his realistic shot to play in the NFL and also he did to kind of a quarterback he different various quarterbacks in the NFL. Philip rivers being the the latest that he's really put focus into so I'm going to get his thoughts to see it forever. Still has anything left in the tank. It's quarterback talk with with the quarterback coach coach. Fairchild coming up next. Let's get the latest on the local sports flash thirteen ten. Kfi PREPS RADIO IS NORTHERN. Colorado's home for the best high school coverage. This is Matt Ray of America's first news. You're listening to the whole show with my Guy Brady whole show powered by PDC energy on this ninth day of April and we're moving along sports certainly splits certainly changed what we talk about every single day but we are building up to the NFL draft. I am very curious to see how they're going to do this. What that's GonNa look like if there's going to be you know there's going to be some kind of reported issues at some point is is bill belichick on one of those accounts for for a different team somehow someway just where fake moustache. We'll see joining me now on our first advantage hotline great friend of the show. Steve Fairchild owner Fairchild quarterback training thirty four years of coaching experience. Coach it's always to catch up with the. It's been awhile but we appreciate your time. Great how have you been? You know what we've been We've been hanging in there trying to find a different debates to keep things going here but certainly different for all of us right. I mean I know there's bigger things to worry about but certainly strange times not having a lot of games to talk about. Yeah it's weird when when you talk about March madness not not happening and You Know Major League Baseball being delayed or postponed. And it's it's just seems like your every portion of the year you're looking forward to a sporting event and everything's on hold now these are these are strange times. Yeah you know something coach I I was thinking too is this something where the NBA and the NHL where they change up their scheduling and they look at and say you know what maybe it makes more sense to start in December. So we're not competing with the the if we do get to an NBA playoff or NHL playoffs this summer. With you know they'd be in June anyway but it would. I'd be curious to see if that's something they'd consider with their regular season ratings to stay away from the NFL and the college football scene. I don't think there's any question that that everybody's reevaluating their their TV contracts and when they're when they're doing how much they're doing it and and when they're trying to you know primetime it and and I think you know even people are looking at the month of July now on the month of November and You know what can we? What can we do and and so forth? So Yeah I. I think things like this kind of make. Everybody reevaluate every facet. I think sports are are no different and well. You've obviously you had the five years of as an offensive coordinator in the NFL. Tell us from your perspective. I mean I'm hearing it from every coach. This is going to be. Oh we can figure this out. What the draft Or it's going to be very complicated. I'm not even sure if we should do it this way. What are your thoughts is being? You know a guy that's Been involved in those drafts. Well I think I think the tape is still you know. The guy's career in the in the production that he's done at the college level was still the the most important component of of you know ranking a player as as you put your graph Ford up so that part has not changed I think it has limited although some people got pro days in most pro days got cancelled. the combine was in. But everybody doesn't go to the combine and some of the tougher decisions. You have to make our guys aren't at the combine so The fact that you can't get face to face and watch Pro Day workout and talk with somebody. One more time that that piece of evidence may not be the biggest thing out there but it certainly an important component in with that not there I think You know I think a lot of people that are making decisions are wishing they'd add a little more to go on and what they have right now is there. Would you feel comfortable doing? Like a percentage on how you know how the combine and how those face to face is How important are those is there? Like a percentage when you look at Okay Game Film. What they did in their college career. That's got to be a big chunk of it But what what would you say? Is You know for for those days and those other things that we're doing that we've missed out on the last couple of weeks. Well I I think without a doubt. The career is by far. The production of the career is by far the most important aspect in and I don't know about putting a percentage on it but it's it's the bulk of it but having said that there's always that that that aspect of guys personality how he relates to teammates how he is going to react when things aren't good and and just the ability to kind of get to know not only the prospect but the people that have dealt with him three or four years and get their opinion and in some some things that they know about this. Individual are very very important in in. So you know I think. Each prospects different You know I think. There's some surefire first round picks and you don't need to go see him but There are some guys that you'd say I'd like to go this guy one more time. I'd like to go talk to him one more time in person and and you can't do that now he said at a lot of these guys are just obvious. You don't maybe need to have that. They're already kind of in the center. Stage guys like Joe Borough and Viola out of Alabama your quarterback guy coach. I mean a love picking your brain and you really assess that side of it from all ages too so you are. You're getting to see the youngsters. Grow into becoming a quarterback. You're getting to see College. Quarterbacks kind of really hone in on their game before they jump the NFL. And you're working with and talking with those those NFL players as well. So you're giving us a lot of different views of the quarterback when you look at these top four top five guys in this draft when you look at borough you look to a Justin Herbert Outta Oregon Jordan love out of Utah State Mountain West Guy. Jake from Georgia. The sensational quarterbacks. Is there one guy on there and I know Joe boroughs obvious for everybody but that you look at instantly in that top five and say this guy's going to have a great career in the NFL? You don't think there is and that's that's really the way it is Most years I mean rarely. Do you have an Andrew Luck or John elway or somebody coming out that you just you know you say hey. This guy's a campus miss prospect. There's always a red flag on everybody and You know you just you have to assess it and and then and then rank them the way you see him with all the information that you have but I think this is a good group. There's no question when you when you look at Joe Pearl There's there's a lot to like in and just You know having the most productive season that any quarterbacks ever had is speaks volumes guys. Accurate He sees a field. Well anticipates that he does so much. Good it's just you know you wished you wish to body work would have been more you know and and go back and look at you go back and look at the guys that you know bulk of the guys that have had successful. Nfl careers have been three. Or four year starters You know been very productive over a a number of years so to speak and and now you're looking at just one real big year but I think almost people's board he's going to be the number one player that no more quarterback off the board and It'll he'll be fun to watch. Does a lot of things Well he does a lot of things. Just good you know. He's he's a good athlete. He's got good size. He's not off the charts on anything like that But I think he'll be the first one to go. I'm I'm pretty sure that so when you look at it and I love that point too. Because This Day and age we talk about longevity of a career. You could be great for three years but you know the next five years. You're kind of a backup. And that Kinda tells the tale of your of your career. And it's very difficult for quarterbacks to last for a lengthy my time so I'm with you that that's got to be a concern. Is that the major red flag there. You see anything else. Six out to you about borough no just the fact that he your basement it on one year. I think if you go back to last September on a lot of boards you know people will will say one thing but I. I think he was a mid to late. Round draft pick is as early as last December September. And and so you know his jump from nowhere into being the first guy off the board on the. Nfl draft is all based on one year one season. And and you don't WanNa do that if you don't have to Now he's made it hard not to because he's been so good with that season and and You know you look at it. Probably is the best prospect coming out but You would like to see maybe two and a half years three years of that type of play to to say yeah that's who he is Now too on the other hand you know. I think you see a little more evidence that that he's a topnotch quarterback but you know the injury things going to be the Red Flag Wham and you know not only hit the ankle and I know You know they're all thirty two teams at a doctor with this guy extensively at the combine and I think some teams will some teams will down. Some teams will have a high. They'll get passed it on the board so He'll be the interesting component of the draft. Borough does go I You know I think that the edge rusher will go second from Ohio state then then when you start to get to three to four. You've got some teams there that like you know like the dolphins and the chargers teams like that. That are looking at quarterbacks. They're gonNA start to get nervous in in. It would not surprise me if somebody made a move to go get the guy. He'll pass the physical on somebody's board and they'll make a move to go up and get him but he he's very impressive. Quick with the ball accurate And just has that. Whatever that factor when you when you're listening to the guy and watching them and speaking to people that have dealt with them he's he's got got quite a presence to him and I really liked guy. I really think he should be the second one to go. I would think we're talking to Steve Fairchild on our first advantage hotline when you when you look at a guy like to an how much of the Alabama thing I almost I don't WanNa say deters you look at it. Okay it's Alabama. They turn out great players all over. And I think maybe we judge that a little bit harder with the defensive lineman coming out of Alabama but is there some of that that happens in some of these war rooms where they look at and say well Alabama. They're they're pretty good at creating a lot of great players. Yeah I think it is but I. I think it's only you know. It's it's an issue till it. Isn't you know somebody's GonNa come out of there in in your career and being all pro and then all of a sudden you're going to say yeah they can. They can produce quarterback so I wouldn't worry about that aspect with it if if he can if he can get by the physicals and people are going to give him a clean bill of Health Then I would think somebody's GONNA move up in in grab him. You look at that five and six SPA where it's Miami and it's the chargers and you said it probably next going maybe to one of those teams. The chargers are interesting too. Because I've seen I've seen a lot of mock drafts where the chargers to a falls to the chargers to six or or he goes up to Miami and then Justin Herber Falls Justin Herbertson interesting one two out of Oregon Oregon. I mean they do this every year though they look really really really really good and they kind of fade. So is that is that kind of one of those red flags with With Justin herber individually. You know what what I saw in him and I just got a quick right up. You know people ask you to do different types of analysis and this year. I did a bunch of the two paragraphs things watch few game tapes and I think what happens. There is people that get on the media. Want some information more than they're able to watch. And so they they kind of use you as subtext and But you know a couple of years ago I did. I did a pretty extensive light up and it was when Herbert was gonNA come out and he didn't So I've got a little more to face on him and I and I really liked a lot of things. I thought he was good for him to go back and play another year. But Know you're talking about a guy who has outstanding size. He's an athlete can move in and he spent a good. The ball comes out. There's just something about There's a stiffness there there's a there's just a way holds the ball You know at times during the game. He reminds me of guys that you know they play well for two and a half quarters and then disappear for quarter I don't know there's something there and and he would be a guy like we talked about i. I would never make a judgment on Herbert without going and seeing him in person Spending a lot of time with the guy and and making sure just as a leader. He's what's wanted an in person. He didn't look too stiff to you You know throwing the football and moving around you know. There's not a lot of evidence in that offense him you know changing target lines and and getting the second and third choices so You know after those first two. That's where it starts to be a little. You know a little bit more of an iffy proposition and You know somebody's GonNa Fall in love and draft him early but You know the people I talked to there. There's a handful that love the guy and there's a handful with you know don't don't love him and so he's going to be interesting. Seattle. How fast he comes off the boards. Stephen Look at those top five. Guys we mentioned your Jordan love with Utah State and then Jake from kind of throw him in that mix. Georgia I mean are five quarterbacks. Go in this first round or do you see Obviously borough and to going to be Gone Justin. Herbert maybe maybe top ten. Maybe he fades out of that. It depends Do you see love and from going in the first round as well you know. I don't know I would not but you know I'm a little you know that's just what I see I see those three as as being guys that Have put enough body of work out there to say. Hey you know I'm GonNa go ahead and invest this this very very valuable. Pick on a quarterback when you drop down to those guys. There's you know they're not the complete deal. There's there's something missing You know not to say they can't be good players at the next level and not to say they're not worthy of a draft pick. But I don't seem as first round guys in fact probably one of the next guys I would look at would be eastern it. Why just from a skill set and again? I haven't done a lot of work on him. But from a skill set he's probably better than the other two You know at least initially and played a little more football You know I wouldn't say play more football play at a high level at a couple of different universities so He should be in the mix but I don't know you know you talk to somebody. Some guys they love they love a lot of it. Utah Staden. La Ones are are great around the board a little bit. I talked with one guy Executive the other day I thought he was the most over going to be the most overdrafted guy in the draft. So you know I. I think there's an ability but you know when you start talking about taking a first round draft pick at the quarterback spot. You don't have time for development. You don't have time for you know a lot of hate. He should be able to do this. We can't do this You know I I would think if you're going to spend the first rounder on a guy he's gotta be guys. Your your shirt can do everything right now. You want to have some of those obvious things that stick out because I mean this is a guy if you're picking them in the top five top ten and you're you're expecting him to pretty much be ready to go next year or for sure that second year so and look at the value of the player. When you when you say you're going to take a guy twelve or fourteen in Hopi pans out. Look at the value of the players that you just passed over and when you when you get down and you start saying all right. I'm willing to spend it with the forty third. The fifty third pick You know it's not. Maybe not as as obvious is what you're passing over. But but boy you know when you're picking twelve you better in. You'RE GONNA pick quarterback you'd better not be a guy where we think can do it. Better be a guy we know can do it. No question about it Coach I only have a few minutes here. I love hearing this. This is fantastic. I did WANNA get your thoughts quickly though. On Jacob Nip a lot of UNC bear fans wanting to know what? What's his career look like? Is he going to get on a team? Does he get drafted as he signed onto a team? What's what what are you thinking as a guy that's really worked well with with Jacob Nip over the years. Yeah we trained quite a bit through his career and and especially this off season that he's done a really really nice job. He was walkie in in terms of that. He got his pro-gay he's pro day in before You know all this shutdown started and it was as impressive approach as I've ever seen You know he did. He was so into some guy's he hadn't worked with and Be just did a tremendous job and there's a lot of NFL teams if not every NFL team at UNC Pro Day. They were representative and he got really good feedback. You know you remind me physically of of Kirk COUSINS KINDA. When you stand next to a woman you watch them throw and in just watches athleticism. That reminded me of. I think he's got a tremendous future. I really do the injury things going to be a red flag for some teams. I think as you delve into that. What happened with his collarbone? You'll see that it. It was kind of a little bit of a you know they put the pin in it the first time in when they did he played a senior year without an issue. So I really think Jacobs got a real chance. He's like you know everybody's got to get into the right system with the right coaches and the right fit for him but I think he's GonNa do a tremendous job now. I am looking forward to see what happens with Nick for sure coach. I would love to pick your brain. I WANNA I wanNA talk to you. Maybe next week if we can. I would love to get your thoughts on Philip rivers and what he has left in the tank. I know you did a a lot of research on on him at this point in time. So I'd love to catch up with you next week if we can sure that'd be great all right Fairchild. Qb TRAINING DOT com. I love that website. Great Work by Steve is always twelve fifty three the time. We're GONNA take a quick break. This is the whole show powered by PD energy. Get your message out to our community with no co now nine. Am To ten am weekdays on Kfi k the best UNC bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten KFI. Hi this is Earl Blake and former David and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi K. A. We'll go back. That's a great interview Colefax when you just don't even look at the clock. I don't even look over St Fairchild bringing today love hearing from him. He knows his quarterback. And he's he is. Very High Jacob. That's an interesting point about that pen in the shoulder for Jacob. Maybe the surgery just was bought. You don't think about that all the time you just think. Oh he gets hurt again. That's it but maybe that first surgery was just never really done properly so to speak and then he keeps hurting it. He didn't get hurt last year. That is worth noting. He finished the season and the the bears were rough. But Jacob I think we can. All agree has a lot of talent. I'll be curious to see what happens with them in the future. All right. We'll talk more about We'll get we'll give you some more feedback off of Steve's thoughts on the quarterbacks the transfer portal in college sports how it is going to change or the proposal to change at all mark. Johnson talked a bit about that. We'll we'll get into more of that in the second hour this is the whole show powered by PDC energy.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) Would LeBron James play in NY, if his son Bronny is drafted by the Knicks?

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) Would LeBron James play in NY, if his son Bronny is drafted by the Knicks?

"No we're not all the way through the dead week between the Championship Games and the Super Bowl with a good week. We got one more day to go and part of what made it. Such a good week was what we saw. Last night in New Orleans the debut of Zion Williamson who is absolutely fantastic. Joining us right now is Pelican sideline reporter Jennifer Hale generally Louis how are you good morning. Guys I'm awesome. How about yourself? were fantastic. Can you take us through the Journey of Zion from the first first quarter through the fourth. Yeah boy what a tale of Four quarters to have however you WANNA put it This Guy Guy. He's so mature for nineteen years old. He he's really impressive. He was doing a really good job all day. Of trying to block out the distractions trying to say. Hey It's just basketball. It's just basketball And I could tell him that first quarter. He was really frustrated. He ended up coming in the exercise bike or the players will stay. Warm is right next to where I sit and after after he only had two points and and miss several several shots when he came out of the game came and got on the bike next to me and kind of talking to himself and shaking his head And I think he really psyched himself. Backup got got himself mentally back in the game and you know but it wasn't even anything that he should have been disappointed in because the guy hasn't played basketball in month let alone own. NBA Basketball Spurs defense was doing a great job pain in baton of attention So I think it was really impressive. The way mentally he could get himself south to a point where he could go off like that. Jennifer was there since of the. Pelicans may have gotten duped in this situation. In in the first three quarters of so watching Zaire what do you mean by like the so much was made of the height the everything everything and all that all of a sudden although much like you said which is a valid point he hadn't played in quite some time but when you rolling out there other than seventeen points in the first in the fourth quarter due. was there a sense in the building that we may. Have you know height this up a little bit more than what it is not for the team you know. The team has been trying to well not the team but the fan like just the people. Oh not not really not yet because I think everybody understood. He's nineteen and it's going to take some time for him to get into a rhythm was their disappointment. Sure but I I think people thought. Hey let's give him some time. One thing about New Orleans sports fans. They're very forgiving and very supportive And and after everything they've been through with the exit of Anthony Davis and the way it went down They are so hungry for something positive and something to believe in. They weren't going to give up Barnum Thiessen Jennifer Hale joining us. She's pelicans sideline reporter. Was There for Zion. Williamson's debut last night and you talked about New Orleans sports fans their second can Jennifer. Where do the PELICANS rank both pre and post last night? Because obviously you've got the saints. which are everything you've got? LSU WHO's coming off of a national championship. Zion kind of put the Pelicans in the middle of that or do they still need some work to do. They still have some work to do it. It is definitely a saint town and Tiger town. LSU Wise It was fun to watch when the PELICANS got the number one overall getting a new going to be going on We saw an unprecedented number of season tickets being sold and and all sorts of hype and then the injury happened and it was kind of a crash crash of expectations. You know a sense of disappointment but I have never seen not even in the playoffs. We had Anthony Davis which by the way they had to beat. beat the spurs ironically back then to go that playoff series. I've never seen the arena. The way it was last night fans were lined up hundreds outside an hour before the doors opened. The lower bowl was full. Within thirty minutes of the doors opening. There was such a sense of excitement and hope nope and that man we really have something special here and this is GonNa put New Orleans basketball on the map in a way it's never been before We saw the wrap on his Lena's right leg It looks as if he walks with a little bit of a wattle. If you will. I know the reports about them trying to work on his bio mechanics. He talk a little bit about what they're trying to make. Sure this prize possession and nineteen is going to be the guy they wanted twenty nine absolutely. It's a real question right He's such a big guy and he plays with such force and what he's always had a little bit of an odd gate even if you look back at at his duke days And when he comes down when he dunks when he jumps when he spins he comes down with such torque in such force so they they've been working you know. Technically the recovery from the surgery could have happened much sooner but they wanted to take this opportunity and change the way he lands so so the flexibility and the way that he distributes the Horse If you look back at his days Before the surgery when he came down a lot of times if he wasn't bending his knees as much as he should he wasn't letting the force of the Torque and the the ground absorb that shock it was all going into his knees so that was a huge point of emphasis and I thought it was pretty interesting you never saw him dunk last night. He barely left his speed. Even on those threes you know he was very cautious. Would how he was moving so I think he's. He's still getting used to this new way of moving in this new way of of Having having his game and playing his game but I think it's going to be a process for him but boy if that fourth quarter is that indication. It's going to be a fun process to watch. The coach wanted to leave him in. Zaire wanted to stay in but then coach realize at the same time it is a medical issue keep taking them out of the game and not make it about winning being the game woods. I on on the floor. What do you think the fallout is going to be based on that in there may be having an opportunity on the outside looking in to to make a nice playoff run? Oh boy that one's GonNa sting if that's the case isn't it. And ironically the Pelicans the schedule gets much easier as season Nj Josh. It's a great time to make playoff run a push for that eight spot and the final game is in San Antonio versus the spurs so market on your calendar. That's that's GonNa be a grudge match If it comes down to one or two games and that's what keeps the Pelicans out of the playoffs. That is going to be extremely hard to swallow however it was the right decision. You've gotta look long term at this and you gotta say hey this is such an incredibly valuable asset. Let's make the right decision to make. Sure he's healthy and good all the way through that. They said they were gonNA play him in short bursts. They said they were going to be conservative again. You didn't didn't seem doing a ton of beating banging you didn't see him doing all those athletic jumps to the rim. That was the plan and they stuck to it and I think it was the smart choice. Even though yeah would have been so fabulous to see a win. Come out of Last night's battle Jennifer Hale. PELICANS sideline reporter joining us here on the morning. Show and you talked about how happy were lined up outside. The building and the lower bowl was full before the game had actually started and you've been around athletes. NBA players a lot but speak to Zion's star starpower just the it factor that he has because that's one of those things it's not just about basketball. It's about that particular person. What an excellent point absolutely Louis and and it's about him in particular? He has the most unique combination of this youthful enthusiasm and joyfulness but yet also this veteran savvy that he knows how to handle the spotlight and handled the expectations in a way that. I haven't seen many rookies whether you're talking about NFL NFL or NBA For instance when they were talking about his return it was very important for him to make his debut at home in New Orleans Orleans and he told me you know. The city of New Orleans is adopted. Me I feel like I owe it to the fans. This is my new home. This is where I should start this journey and I thought wow that's that's pretty cerebral cerebral for a nineteen year old when when he could have chosen or could have pushed for. I don't know if it would have happened but there was a chance to hey debut would say Madison Square Garden in New York. which wouldn't that be historic So I think he has all of the intangibles. He has the charisma he has likeability factor factor. He's a genuine person It's GonNa draw fans not just from New Orleans but worldwide to him but also the savvy to know how to handle let and not make some of the mistakes and alienate those fans that unfortunately we see some young players make just because boy what were we doing at nineteen years old you know. How would we have handled that type of attention? People literally have chased the pelicans bus grown adults broad daylight pulling up to the hotel just to try to get a glimpse of him. It's it is crazy Diane mania not just in New Orleans but when we go on the Road Jennifer Hill. PELICANS CEYLON report and joining us here. On the morning show Jennifer we shipped obviously a number of guys to you in the Ad Trae but the one that sticks out the most for us. Are they going to Hang Balls Jersey and the raptors anytime. Soon for the Pelicans is he playing well enough to even have that thought boy he they sure has turned a corner as of late Those three guys have been just clutch for the Pelicans They absolutely have been fantastic. UH-HUH I think was the the took the longest to warm up to the city of New Orleans. But I feel like just recently. Let's say the past three weeks ish. He's is really bought in. I think he was trying to decide. Is this going to be a good thing for my career. Has My career just taking a step back coming to such a smaller market out of La a And he has just been fantastic as of late he got healthy. I think he's really trusting his teammates and buying into the system and and showing not only on the court on his play has been excellent as of late But just watching him in practice shoot around he's smiling now Dancing he's joking with his teammates. It's really good to see we. Well we want this to be a fresh start for him. Not only for the good of the team for him as well and Josh heart you know. He's been wonderful since the get go. And I have to tell you brandon. Ingram is is my new favorite player. What a quality person person he is just he he does it quietly you know? He's not a meat person he's not Attracted to the spotlight and the cameras but he adjust has lifted up night after night. He's the guy that walked out of the arena he thanks and hugs the ushers the security guards I it's really were so happy to have him here in New Orleans benched why was benched One of the head scratchers for some people last night. I think the Pelicans were really trying to figure out rotations. And who would pay play best wear They played deeper into their bench than the normal Is They just tried to figure out what combinations in rotations worked the best and Jj Graddick. I will say I has really been a force in Diane. You saw him early in the Game Pulling Zion aside Talking him up encouraging him not to get frustrated and I think they wanted to have that come to factor. I I on on the floor some but hey you saw though and Diane work together to some extent In that game it looked very promising Jennifer Hale. She's on the sidelines games. Jennifer appreciate you coming on. Thanks thanks travel guys have a good day all right maybe. The silliest question of all was asked of Lebron last night after the game we'll get into it next like I am sure yeah that every team in the NBA all thirty teams in the NBA would love to have Lebron James as a member of their team But I don't know if anybody anybody has it worse for Lebron than the people of New York the Knicks fans The New York media that they have been on Lebron from his first free the agency. Going all the way back to the decision to Miami BACK TO CLEVELAND OUT TO LA. They're always trying to find an angle to get to. Lebron wonder why he never ever really considered like the New York Knicks. Why wonder yeah just really wonder why because sometimes you know when you get somebody in in a situation where they so oh desperate they do whatever right like like they put a deal together? Whatever they so desperate to get a guy like I just wonder why but isn't that the NBA's Ba's thing is that they can't offer more than anybody else they can offer as much waste is ways manipulate things? I'm sure would with maverick in in enrich Paul to get stuff done. I just wonder why New York was never a real destination for him last time you in Madison Square Garden last couple of years ago. So you know it's a dump right. I know I get that coach. I understand that but my point is is Lebron. I can leverage wish that to a home I guess I could leverage that to a whole `nother level. I just WanNa know why he ever really considered. Ron is one of the few guys that does not need the platform. No matter where it goes that is the platform. He's Lebron James. But it's New York City. It's they haven't won a gazillion years. They're starving for something. I could figure out how to manipulate this brand into that in New York. Make get a piece on T.. Just I'm just trying to figure out making snap crackle pop. There's no doubt about it. I just think if you're on top of the world and you get a chance to play in a nice arena with beaches and Malibu Blah Blah or the dump in the heart of. I mean I'm just being written I love New York but but also being being let me just tell you man having played there and I cannot from La and I'm l.. A. Born and bred through and through. True no matter what I could take you from all the way to northern furthest tip North to the furthest bottom south and tell you everything in the state but when playing in New York and playing for the jets is just one of those deals where I experienced something just taking them to a championship where he was like. I'm a made man now like like I. Can't you know so I'm just saying his level right. I just I always wondered. Why wouldn't you do that so this is how badly the people of New York Want Lebron James to come? Let me be a nick at some point that they're asking. This question. Signed gets drafted by the Knicks. One day we consider plane was in the Komo ninth grade trying to worry about what a project you got attorney tomorrow. That's what we worried about right now. You know what's most important. The school being the best big brother. He can't be so okay so that's what I'm saying. He they started so much man. You can just leverage draft your kid now now now now. I mean the bronze right. The the the young man is in the ninth grade. You've got a long way to go. I just I don't know it is. It is a long way to go but when Lebron was that age Lebron's cover are. I'm just saying you know the coverage was already already there cocoa Gotha Same Age Lebron James Junior. Okay I'm just saying you know there are some cues early yard. Hitch over to the. There's a there's a chosen push the button no-name selling I saw what was going on. There are a million roster spots between being the next Lebron James in the leak that no-one saying come to New York with your son. Who's the next you? It's just will you. Thanks by the way he could be A. Let's just who knows right. Time will tell. Let's just say that Brawny is a college caliber player. which is fantastic? I was just fantastic but the people of New York like look. We'll take that guy if you're coming. Whatever I take four years from now? No they won't feel that way about years from now probably Nana but they're still thinking about all the heat and energy and owner and then maybe you can turn some stuff around getting rid of the owners hardest thing to do depends video or not well but hey hey hold on put the global through through there was there's video yeah powerful owner. Yeah sure pro. Not GonNa stab craft and Bob Kraft. There was a video of him walking in that place that was a and awkward and everything. And it's like wait. What do we arrested? or She's the Asia or Asian. Or whatever you guys move along what I'm saying. No about Lebron situation and being able to play with Brian. Yeah whatever comes to fruition. I'm not so far down the line but I mean if you think about it James Dolan's been running. MSG for a little bit now family business whatever you want to call it if if you approach it the right way in. There's the Mavericks. There's the rich Paul. Aw there's Lebron they could very well manipulated the knicks situation. Much like they did with him. Come into the Lakers. I just always wanted to no in my mind was. Did he ever consider putting that together the same way they put the Lakers to get you ever considered it. But here's the if everything that New York has your timeout. Snap crackle pop right everything that comes with being in New York City. LA's BRACCO pop is probably second only to the next right right or not to the next to New York. I mean the weather sucks. But but so if you're talking about here's the number sizzle and then here's number two that comes to sizzle and it's close and then everything else about number two is better. It's not a hard decision. It's if if the best basketball team with the richest history with all these things was in Orlando handle but it's in La. It's a totally different thing. There's a beach dog. That's that's a wrap for me. It's like I am. I going to have snow or sand given the sand. Yeah he was pretty easy decision. It is a pretty easy decision. Eli Manning it's cokie lie manning its ally manning is calling. It is what I was going for. Okay do you. Li- manning is calling it a day. Does he walk straight into the hall of fame. That's coming up next now. I Ki- I don't want you to give it too much. Thought just your Gut Reaction Eli. Manning is blank. What does he as a quarterback is an? NFL player is a good NFL clues. He was a good. NFL quarterback good NFL quarterback. That's the ceiling. That was for me it was. I don't see them as anything special. Ah It's so. His career is so peculiar because the numbers scream what you just said he was. He was all right. He had a nice long on career. Sixteen years and like you were talking about in New York City for sixteen years and really ooh nothing ever popped up about him. He was doing blank it he he kept his nose pretty clean or at least he was good at making sure. Nobody wrote about getting dirty or whatever it was no noise surrounding Eli manning really at all but his career sixteen seasons seasons missed the playoffs a lot more than made it missed it. Ten Times made it. Six never led the League in any statistical category except for interceptions which he did three three times but we all know the separate conversation here not should he go to the whole thing. It's almost a certainty that Eli Manning is going to be in the hall of fame. That's a weird thing to say about a guy that's who's career numbers in his career. Presence was pretty good I mean. He's look man he claes New York. You want a couple of championships in his last name is manning his father played in the NFL. The everybody has already from day. One book the Book of the Manning's into the first family of football let even though there's a number of families that have played in football. I mean it just that. So that's what it is you can. You can certainly tell the story about the NFL without putting Eli Manning you can any NFL. I don't think I I wanNA absolutely in the hall of fame but you can't tell the story of the NFL without him because you can't tell the story of the NFL without putting him in the hall of fame. There's no question about that absolutely not why because the New England patriots was on the verge of an undefeated season hijacked by Eli Manning's giants and it was hall of fame. Put Him in the hall of fame because they beat the undefeated Patriots Pass High School. Okay I don't know your your statement was you can't tell the story right man. Tell the story without putting him into the hall of fame. You can't because here's why I don't agree with that the Patriots or the story of the two thousand and through the lad the last twenty years from the turn of the century until right. Now it's been the Patriots and part of that Patriot history is they lost a few super bowls. They've lost three of them two all of them to the same guy and to the same guy in really much abuse. You're telling the story right now you don't have to put him in the hall of fame. Nobody if you if you are a part of the story of a twenty year window important part of the story of a twenty year window. He's a whole. He's a hall of Fame Caliber Story. I don't know if he's a hall of fame caliber her player. Maybe there's a distinction. Between was he ever considered. No no whatever whatever your answer is is the answer is no was. He ever considered the best at his position at any time in his career. No was he ever considered the best quarterback in conference fridge ever. No I mean it's so hot to you. Here's a question for you two thousand four. NFL draft in the first round gave us ally manny any Ben Rothlisberger And Philip Rivers Philip rivers statistically as disappear quarterback He's also oh a borderline hall of Famer. Eli Manning statistically spray the weakest and he's the one is probably more sure-fire than any of them but market Morton Gordon rothlisburger market matters and T- matters because obviously New York is New York. Don't say the Pittsburgh steelers are royalty in the NFL. The steelers are or one of those teams. The San Diego chargers mark right they never never got to a super bowl. Philip rivers. I think only played in the AFC championship game. Once right right right so yeah. Winning plus chargers equals at borderline. Eli Manning's numbers to your point are are inferior to Philip Rivers two super super bowl championships to super bowl. VP's in New York City. It's a runaway runaway weird. Look I'm not saying he's not going I I just it's it's just he goes immature. pinching your nose because you could point to a lot of different players in a lot of different positions depending so how you want to shape it that once upon a time was considered this or once upon a time considered that at the position lead their team the back in the the reason a team is in the position is because they got everybody to play a certain way they led the charge. All of those things that I would say. Oh Yeah for sure but with this one. It's almost like we're being forced to put him in because last night in his reputation of your brother and he played in New York. I I mean that's just so you said you may pitcher knows beyond. It's not it's one of those things that I think everybody kind of gets it and we just kind of all right whatever like yeah. That's what I say. I'm like whatever whatever it is. I don't think anybody is arguing that manning should be a hall of Famer based on the accomplishments in his career. It's the story that's part it's city name position and oh by the way he has dead smack in the middle of two huge you look at it some others that have been when he situations did never get the benefit of the doubt. You know other players so you sit back home okay. So Klay Matthew Senior Play Matthew scene. He was a hell of a outside linebacker. His daddy played played hall favor his Plan who who I don't know I gotta look at his numbers and what it is but he certainly smells else like a potential hall of Famer for everything he did Green Bay. You see what I'm saying right so when you start packaging it up. Here's how you sell it. What about this look at it like this? Ah when you're getting ready to play. The New York giants even know the best weight off right. I played off his no. I never had. There's never had demarcus ware. In in Terence Newman come to say keep me you got to score points because that dude on other side number ten. He goes shred never so so if they had actually gone to the team that drafted him. The San Diego chargers to chips weren't coming to the charges because he lives presence and not not I a certain percent. It certainly feels that that would be the case but because his history and all that we don't know so maybe this isn't the best way to sued define a great player or not but to. You're saying he. That never ever wants has a defensive coordinator been the first thing we gotta do. Is We gotTA figure out what we're going to do with number ten when we got to figure out what we're going to do with where I'm waiting as Brett Farr multiple times and they said you gotta do your child because nude over here okay. So Brett Farve. That's an easy one but his brother Michael Vick Randall. Cunningham these are guys gotta deal with that guy and we'll shark aren't going to the shorthand at the day secondary. Remember this coach. Dungy were shorthanded today. In a secondary. We're going to need you to have a big gang because we're GONNA have to put up some points and he was correct. We needed to put up some points. So what's the definition of a great player. Is that a guy that wins. Some big games like manning did or is. Did a guy that you had to worry about. You had to worry about Randall Cunningham. WHO's putting him in the hall of fame? No He's putting Michael Vick and the hall of fame because neither one neither one of them won two championships. That's what I'm saying Dan but they are more interesting more fun more explosive. More dangerous guys than Eli Manning One if they won Championships Championship Championship rings on. It'd be something to talk about something to discuss it. It just would be although people would probably push it down because everything else that they don't have that he has. That goes wit. What it is it you know? You can't ignore Olivia his mother. You can't ignore or his dad and brother. You WanNa live your. Because that's what they do in the press box imam. Olivia Cooper Cudi elected. They're playing against each other so hapless sports before year right so when you put on a big sports before so when you put all that together it helps his case along with beating these teams the the the Patriot teens. It just strengthens his case to get into the hall of fame if there was if there was no manning in there was no archie not in Libyan Cooper and all of that stuff that they put together and it wasn't scripted that way and he still played the way played and he was just quarterback with a different name. Do we are we having this conversation. I like what you said. I'll see the idea of. He goes to San Diego. He decides not to dig his heels in and say I'm not gonNA play for you but goes to San Diego place for the chargers. There's puts up the same numbers minus those championships. He's one of those guys. Hey do you remember that. Who's that guy that played quarterback for the chargers for what was his name again Humphry? Yeah Yeah Dance Eh Humphries. He's one of those guys Matt's does what he said. No He's not Matt Stat match doesn't put a Bananas Numbers Matt Stafford Does. But he would be Stan Humphries. He's running humphries. Sean Salisbury Old Sean. Yeah I remember shot Auburn Sean. No Sean play for the charges to see well. Yeah but I just saying San Giorgio charge a quarterback. I don't even remember a lot of charts. He's not Dan fouts that's for sure not fouled see. Yeah but who else would the chargers. Oh they had the guy rivers the backed up in Seattle for awhile. Why the White House early Whitehurst backup started? The Doug Flutie was with the chargers for a while. Well Yeah but that was. Johnson was with the chargers for awhile all kinds of like they went through some guys they went through some guys all right. NFL is headed to Vegas Vegas. Officially that's next pointer. Sisters you gotTa Travis Muscles talking about them yesterday. Why because they're gonNA walk is ridiculous Niculae? Don't really really good. I know this one. What else would I know are they? It's raining men when you get murdered. This was the cause sitting there going. Why is this? Where is this painting my high because I say about the pointer sisters? Well go on Rosh. So what else can follow that up. Man I'm so excited. I know that one automatic. I'd need to hear it. Maybe I you might need help. But we'll we'll get back they're not the pointer triplets at appointed sister so Anita Pointer was born today and over under silver over under seventy one. Travis T. Monosso must go here does over as well all right good job. We both know you don't. He just gets point. I just feel like I've been aware of the pointer sisters since I was the element school. So they've been around. You remember this one guys TV theme on us here here Wolf no but sorta the same guy that can make a lot of human guy. Yeah I think I I was gonna say chicken soup you know maybe a little reggie white joke. Reggie spoke about him in his speech. We won't I remember macgyver. Caught a fish with the gum wrapper. I'm like no this is stupid. You just jelly however catch a fish for a Greek Richard. Deans Birthday today. Her the I sixty nine. He looks sixty nine like towards the final season of macgyver. So I'M GONNA say over I'll go over. Man is today all right. Here's one of my favorites. I think you like this went to travel Whitney definitely eighties to probably earlier late seventies early eighties think out of Outer Space Space Battle Star Galactica. Novacopy came all right after this show Roger Odd way here in Graz birthday pre silver gray. Yeah well this earlier book Roger Someone in girl Gil Gerard Buck Rogers Birthday. Aaron Gray was the Female lead in the very excited about your. He was our here. You both threw me off their over under seventy eight travis. That's true only lasted for three seasons. Right Aaron Gray no kill confused Seventy I'M GONNA say under that is correct. L. A.. Right he's seventy seven so you give them a reason to me. The boy hurt it and so low. We don't even know if he's still have it. Do you remember the two robots in the buck Rogers twiggy twenty. Yeah and then the twiggy was the kind of humanoid looking thin. They he wore that necklace. That was like the face around the neck flavor. Flav the first favorably. The Dr Theophilus. Hey do you guys know. Gary Coleman played in episode of that. Yeah that's right. We know Arnold in-space this pace buck rogers which I always thought it was Lee majors. I was telling him Noah that's wallet. Yeah they had that same parole but I like that show good. That is not the point but the that's the weather girls. Everybody knows that travel out everybody. They are sisters so you can get some. He's so shy smarter Matt. He's so shy and you know all the point of sisters forgotten fair enough. Fair enough the raiders. I are officially the Las Vegas Raiders. And it's weird because team is iconic is the raiders is able to change their geography. Not like that and it doesn't feel weird at all like if all of a sudden the Dallas cowboys were the Las Vegas cowboys you like. I didn't sound right at all. If the if the New York jets jets were the Las Vegas jet now nope the Green Bay packers sounds right. The Las Vegas packers sounds wrong. But Somehow someway the raiders in Vegas feels exactly right. I think because one. We're used moving. It's like Lebron James. If Lebron James decided I've now going to be the Indiana Pacers when of course you are the final. Exactly okay. Gotten used to him moving around. We got used to that franchise. Moving Lebron to me and I'm thrilled that he's here and I hope that he wins multiple championships wise. Here I am Lebron James Fan I feel but come no. It's not a but I think of Lebron James I think of him as a cavalier. Yeah and I always will. It's just and because that's where I discovered him in before he got the NBA. Newman high school. But Lebron Ron became a part of my regular sports experience as a member of the cavs and even when he went to the heat. And maybe it was because of the decision and it was such a unique slash awkward way. Hey to announce it at the time. In retrospect it really wasn't much of a big deal but it felt like a big deal in the moment and the heat. It felt like he was there to kind of come and go get a couple of championships. And then I'm GonNa to figure out what to do from there. And then when he went back to Cleveland brought them their first championship since million years ago. In my mind's eye Lebron will always be a cab no matter how many different places he goes. That's that's weird. I I see the Brown. I'm sure this is what he wanted. I see him as a singular entity who chooses to bring his talent wherever he so chooses whereas a player like Tim Duncan to me is like I couldn't imagine Tim Duncan Kobe anywhere morale's and is because they didn't go anywhere else. So my brain has been trained to only see that when you Jordan as a single entity because he went somewhere else not think ammonia is a bull me too but the reason reason why is because of the gaps in the years and this is facing the wizard stuff just weird it was. It was like a city it was late show. It was not Michael Michael Jordan. I've gotten accustomed to seeing the Braun. Decide I'm going to now move. And so either. I'm with Lebron along with the franchise and more often than not people decide. I'm taking my support with Lebron. The rate is a similar. They've moved around a lot and so you have to make a decision. Do I want a rep my city or do I want a rep this franchise and for the Raider Nation. They decided we're GONNA up this franchise and wherever we go. We just picking up bodies ladies. Were not dropping off because you left zip code. I think you're right and I think that you mentioned earlier. The fact that the hip hop culture kind of introduced the raiders to another generation nation of people because they were wearing a lot of raider gear. It's cool that I think this is cool. Therefore the raiders are cool. I'm on the raiders. There's certainly a part of that and that happened up and not just in L. A. and not just in Oakland across the country so there became raider fans pockets here and there but go back even before then this was not in La thing. This was not an Oakland thing. This was kind of a a renegade thing. The the raiders were different. Their owner was a wild card and They they wore black uniforms before really anybody else did they. They were the team that was willing to give a guy that had had some problems. Another chance we don't give a damn just come in here and play football. We'll figure it out on the fly. There's this renegade the ethos to the team. That was very appealing to a lot of people long before the next generation and the next generation. And I think that's why they can move around because they don't belong to geography geography. They belong to a culture. Yeah and a couple of different ones along the way but it it's brilliant. It is a perfect spot for them. And maybe it's their next spot. Maybe they'll spend twenty years there. No pull up and go back to who who the hell knows but it just feels that. The raiders have been destined to wind up in Las Vegas. At some point. It feels right. It feels absolutely right and hopefully hopefully This is it is far as moves a concern because it is nice to be able to take your coat if you will and just pitch a tent. Wherever you see fit at a certain point you home to you wanNA home because only by establishing a home can hey you establish that sense with families of going? This is the team I grew up with. This is my dad taking me to this arena. And taking my kid to the Serena. You can't do that if the team is constantly moving. Haven't they done that here though. I mean let's be honest. I'm rams fan your Rams Fan. I love the rams the most popular team in the city or the raiders. And they're not all sixty years old. There's a lot of twenty year old raider fans. There was an emptiness right like there was a there were years and years and eight years. There was not he had to pick someone. I'm talking about like my childhood. For instance right every Thanksgiving lions. That's just what you did in Detroit had a kid and guess what. Yep We're going to the lions they are there this is what we do and maybe hopefully when he has a family. And you know we're all in Detroit hanging out with family and his Thanksgiving we're all going to go to the lions does something about once you haven't established home. You can build a tradition over time that bouncing around. You just can't do not in the same way that in the same emotional attachment I will love. How for the raiders to stay in Vegas? Because I want that for that franchise that that community of fans deserve that. The I don't mean into throw shade at the city Las Vegas I like Las Vegas but people that are there in Las Vegas of a lot of them. I don't mean everybody but a lot of their from other places so they have kind of a vagabond vibe to it as well that I came to Las Vegas to to use the cliche defined by fortune to find work to go and buy a home. That's a little less expensive sugar today to up all of it. People come from all over the country to Vegas so it feels. Kind of the raiders. There feels right in a way that I don't think too many other teams would and I just I can't wait to see it. It's going to go. I can't wait to go. I can't wait to see it because it's going to have you been to a Golden Knights game. Yes okay it. It's the ultimate Vegas feel to it all and it feels right. It feels authentic. Because it's so plastic can i. Can I tell you something so as you I know last summer is coming World Team Tennis. They got a world team tennis team. That was Vegas is packing. Everybody's Rockin they didn't do hungry for this absolutely know how to do Lakers in Brooklyn tonight. We'll get into it first thing tomorrow morning. We'll see you then.

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The 75O: The Dallas Sooners

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The 75O: The Dallas Sooners

"Welcome back to the seven five. Oh I am your own. He's your seven five two time superbowl champion. College Football Hall of Famer and not the best pickle ball player in his own household. The one and only Tony Casillas. Dc what a good man. But wait a second. I did not say that. I said I thought very competitive. By the way in which referring to is his name that we've been doing as a family and I will say this. We are competitive. But I just don't move as quick as I have in the past. GotTa think about that step and I'm going to refer to as you know my wife and I are blamed pickle ball. We got so every every evening we've been challenged in the twins. Boy You know. They're nineteen jet Sophia so As far as the best two out of three I will give you that. I really suffered in that and but I'm willing to swallow the taste of humility pill. It is what it is. Hey I mean if you can't be the best pickle ball player in the world like if you have to be the second best wouldn't it be awesome if the best was your son you gotta lose to somebody although after Magin those into your son is also a little bit more bitter In in different ways just kinda like me. What's going on or is this just enough still. Dna SOME COMPETITOR BEING. A in your body. And so you've gotta convince yourself and But what I hate is that when he tries to. It's like posting. Poster is in you when in slammed up through an overlay like Shaquille O'Neal over Shawn Bradley. I like that. Because he's trying to take my head off in served Volley it over the net. And then he describes a smash it down much. Maybe it's all those e fillings. He's had for granted him and everything else but right. Let's what we're doing now. We're trying to get through. All this and navigate through this whole pandemic but I think we see the light. We see some sheriffs in the rice Well we're both in Texas and obviously on Monday. There was some news from the governor. And everything so again we hope. Everybody's happy saved social distancing and hopefully we get through these days sooner rather than later Tony we're obviously going to touch on the draft but We didn't touch a lot on it last week. And I can't believe that. But what did you think of episodes three or the last dance before we started? I just laugh because of so great. And it's mean the vault of all this you know all this This the sat on this like I'm almost mad. They had all of this for all this time didn't share with us. That's like sitting on a pot of gold so gold in the fact that we can kind of pull the curtain back and see the the the the nuances and Disa- different personalities everything in an anti the last season and the one the Rodman season I mean we could. We could do a whole podcast on that but The highlight was obviously him units. Robin and going right for playoff run That he needed vacation he gave forty eight hours and Michael Jordan had to go get his ass because he exceeded debt side but RJ's has been. It's been brilliant. Maybe we could Nassar better time considering. There's no basketball in the fact that people can this kind of get a an an eye view of what happened in those great years even in the contemporary as we have now but I distinctly spectacular to see how great this whole team and how it was kind of defunct dysfunctional but how they sold together on the greatest players of all time and just have driven and at times probably didn't a lot of people didn't like especially his teammates. Sure I have three things to say on this quickly. Number one is over. Said this to you. So obviously I live in San Antonio Spurs fan my whole life but I have a soft spot. An Eastern Conference team is the Detroit Pistons My Dad used to work for a company. That's world headquarters are in Detroit Z. Would always bring me back like a Pistons Shirt every time. Go up or a cap or some kind of developed a love. This was by the way like early. Two thousands the CHAUNCEY BILLUPS re Pam. Lden you know so. I really love those Pistons Teams. When they met the Spurs in the finals it was it was not a fun week in my house but So that was. It was a rough episode for that perspective. You know not a great you know. Look for the bad boys Certainly but my question was going to be. Did you ever go to any balls games? Maybe Maverick's games in the nineties in Jordan. I I saw Jordan played one time and I guess it'd be the equivalent of people watching Lebron play now just on the great the greatest players that are playing in the League now and yeah I it was just A. It's just it's it's the fact that you action the same bill and get to see it'd be like watching. Tiger Woods play golf but those to those guys in the same category but You know just a eloquent and how one the mentioning was a time and and you know the and you look at some of the efforts of that. The last three four episodes about Azalea Thomas. I forgot about the Detroit Pistons not shaking their hand and to this day all day doctors as Thomas in some for some reason it make the Olympic Team. And he you know he basically said look you know if there's a reason why it had made a bad most Jordan. A second because Jordan was boycotted that but I cannot say enough over it. It's it's just the way it's done the way it's rolled out An ESA it's brilliant. Man It's great stuff to watch so my last question. This will kind of segway into the cowboys. If if one of you guys had said I need a trip to Vegas in the middle of a season like that. It's a two part question number. One is who would have been the guy that said that who who would have been the most likely to have said. I need to go to Vegas and number two. Who would have been the one to go? Get Him at a vegas so he would have been the Rodman the play Mecca Michael Irvin and it'd be great made for TV right. We can destroy them that I and I'll let Michael. Play that guy all right in that role in the movie and I might knock on the door dude. We need you back. This is taking the now. Michael was married at that time. So I don't I don't think Carmen Electra would be inside a drone but I don't know it's that's the thing about him. He can't make this stuff up. Dennis Rodman the Duke of ball in the fact that he could go to to Las Vegas for seventy two hours and come back. No-one condition that was a condition ethnic athlete on and off the court. If you share yeah I mean. I love the Dream Team Documentary. They did on obviously the Dream Team and it talks about how when they were in Barcelona Jordan. They would all like play cards till like four. Am and then Jordan would get up and go play eighteen holes and then it'd be the first one in Jayme would just like dom like you know I just. I don't know how people have that. Stamina. I mean a lot. Easier to be able to compartmentalize that. I'm not saying that that you know that football is would be an easier but I think that maybe basketball because you know they play so many games maybe like a guy getting a a night off back back nine off but again it's just to to be effective. And how dominating we're in the personalities. You know some of the things that were said. I mean the one liners is just so it and I think it gives us the point that look at this generate. General General Relational is generations through different generations and the greatness of that and also in the last thing. I'll say about this half physical the NBA was back. Then I mean when they play the Detroit Pistons I mean it was like a is a free for all man. Yeah I never trying to break ribs or trying to take your head off. It was not the basketball. That's played now totally different. So while Tony. Our show is called the seven. Five Oh We're recording obviously. You're sitting in your office underneath a Tony Casillas Number Seventy Five Jersey. Is that from the two thousand in ten season that that was the atomic are not ten But that was. That's the Tom Landry. Patch right on your jersey. That is I think that is the inaugural I think. That's the last game that was played at Texas Stadium and they had Arielle walkout at a one. They had to come back and It was I had a program shine from their inaugural program from the last name. You know it was. Kinda one of those Bittersweet moments the fact that the baron all the memories and going into new buildings yes. I figured that'd be kind of a a very You know a member billion something to hold onto. So that's what you're looking back. Yeah that's what that is sure. I was at that game against the Baltimore Ravens on a Saturday night. I was a freshman in college my dad and my cousins and I went and I'll never forget I had a horrible ear infection. It was terrible but And then the cowboys lost knows Tampa anyway. So you're underneath one. The Ravens Rust. But I'm trying to think Willis mcgahee he and there was. I'm forgetting the Baltimore. Fullback back to back big touchdowns back and I forgot the last night. We were talking about football. Did you see the was the two thousand ten the game? I was two thousand seven Monday. Ask Yeah Two thousand seven week five. The cowboys were four. No Winter Buffalo. That was the bills were on Monday. Night football not this past season but in twenty eighteen and it was their first time on Monday night. Football sense that night to those at home and That was A. I'll never forget that. I watched that game at Buffalo Wild Wings with my dad and a bunch of friends and everything and the nick and and I mean the the Terence Newman like people forget the tennis new an interception that happened there was a lot that went into that Then there was the fact I didn't watch it when it was on last night. But Romo hits Te'o for a big gain and they run up and spike the Baugh in trying to get to kick the field goal to obviously You know do what they did and after they spiked the ball. They went back and reviewed the Te'o catch which was at that point two plays ago And that I remember at the time like if that happened today I think it would be a gigantic deal because once once play runs. You know the play before it is dead. You know what I mean and you. You can't go back but so they like to set the scene in case not you Tony Benn. Anybody listening didn't watch remember. The cowboys are trying to go. Kick a field goal to win the game. There's very little time left and Romo hits Te'o and it's kind of a shaky. Did he catch? You did not catch it. You know but there's not a lot of times they run up and spike the ball and that's when the rest go review the catch and they determined. It was not a catch. Ultimately the cow was still get in position. Kick the fellow win the game. But they're logic. Tony was the reason that they waited for them to spike the ball was they didn't want to start or stop the game in review the catch and give the cowboys a free time out in the event that you know of this or that or whatever which. I guess is fair logic but still that kind of sucks was thirteen years ago. Two thousand seven. I thought Romo look young and up in five interceptions but he could have thrown six man and I can watch I picked on a fumble was tremendous. It was it was just a horrible game for him but I mean the last two minutes it will come back but I was just making. Observations of all. The different players had on attain marrying. Barbara's starting excuse me running back. Other offense align close L. Adams and still playing on the defensive line in ahead they were pretty often. Jay ratliff markets hatcher. Marcus Spears had wear on the outside Greg. Alice pill soon awake so it was kind of. It was nice to build a see that but that the end if you see it up to that two miniature like Oh my God this is Romo moment were he had like. You said six turnovers total but the last minutes. That was great when you go back and wait like wow zip. And that long ago when rummell takes his helmet off many looks like he just turned forty. What couple two or three days last week? Yeah that was a tremendous game kind of gets you into the Auburn. Who to watch football but that was a that was a hell of a game and it was. I will never forget in the post game press conference watching on TV at the time. Te'o you know he was asked about Nick folks game winning cake and he was a guy he kicked one hundred six hundred. And everybody's kind of like what? And he was like. Yeah you kicked a fifty three yard struggle twice like I'll I'll never forget that but okay so anyway The NFL draft happened last week. And the point I was getting his. Our shows called the seven five. Because you wore seventy-five of the Dallas cowboys. Defensive Tackle extraordinaire hailing from University of Oklahoma. What Tony Guess what? The Dallas cowboys drafted a defensive tackle from the University of Oklahoma and they have assigned to number seventy five so Neville gala. More is just following in your footsteps. Dude I don't know what the irony is about that And it's funny. Because I got a friend of mine is going to be doing some marketing. He won NBA text. Message and say welcomed the cowboys and Natalie. Never Gal more and I'm okay. I'll have not heard back from yet so I I don't I don't know if player that man he's an NFL. But I thought that was kind of ironic and cool seventy five to sooners and I thought it was even more cruel they had. The you know the cowboys obser- will get into it but the draft is kind of dislike. It can file. It couldn't have worked at any better for me. All these players they need following her lap. And you know never gallimore lawsuit you know. Obviously it'll ask your it Oklahoma. The DEUCE got a lot of upside now. I I think that the look at the cowboys position inside now. I mean that's one of their deeper position. Considering what they did for agency by now yeah so I think it's pretty cool. I just hope He can bring his game and again. Do this is big. I mean can that assault absurd? You saw veto him. Duck not gonNA basket garage. Six three three hundred five pounds in the two can move so I'm excited about that. I just hope that the you know It works out better than Charles. Tapper did last allows yet. Charles had the injury situation. It was unfortunate. I'm curious what was your average playing weight because I think people look at that and say he's over three hundred pounds and and they think like classic one tech. You know what I mean like. What was your average playing way over and no it fluctuated and step over the course of your career small. But I was a different nose tackle to technique on the center and play both sides in this gap. Gap Control My heaviest weight Was To was to ninety five hundred and I was I was undersized in Ellis always thought if I were to start in the fourth raid my career would have been much much sexier better numbers more sacks because I was. You know that's what my position was. Knife is to keep the basically the block for the live action. Let them roam so You know that is not in the national football league. Rj Six three and three hundred pounds is somewhat average now therapist in a mental but to the point about what he can do is totally different. Different defenses. You've got a guy that's going to be a field on the edge and Not only can you strong and he can play a gap orientated. Defense do can get upfield can be disrupted that are full man athletic especially inside when you have the center and two guards archer as far as physicality aren't your biggest players. I mean you can take advantage of that mobility and strength and everything else that goes along with that this is as a client host of Kline. Show podcast in twenty is what he was most afraid of a pandemic respiratory flu. He told me we're living in his nightmare now so I had him back on the show to ask him. What has he learned. All of us need to learn. How far are we from a vaccine? And what does he hope for society on the other side of this crisis? What do we need to do to build something better in its aftermath glistened our whole conversation describing to guess or client show? Wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone it's Jimmy model on the host feed run a new show on qube produced by the team at Polygon. Speed run gives you your daily dose of the biggest gaming and entertainment news. Every weekday will give analysis of the latest video games and highlight. Some of the best of the gaming community will cover everything from the twenty year. Evolution of action role playing games to the breakout success of riots. New valent for stories like this and much more download the QUBE APP to watch new episodes of speed run every weekday. It's very nice to see the cowboys. Investing and Defensive. Tackle it still. These are smaller investments. Then call it. You know. Say a Fletcher Cox. That's kind of the Gold Standard. Obviously but still to see them. Go Out and signed. Joe McCoy signed on Terry poet draft. Nevill Gallimore is is just a breath of fresh air compared to well. We'll have older Jason Hatchet. We'll we'll bring in Henry. Melton bringing Terrell Mcclain you know I mean like it's it's really nice to see and all although today Tony Christian Covington signed with the Denver Broncos. You know we'll we'll just it's it's hey maybe if you invest their you'll get some elite production out of defense. Yeah you've you've already got some solid edge rushes you added another and Bradley and I mean it's Nice. It's very I don't WanNa dance on the Jason Garrett era but in an all the credit certainly belongs. I think to will mcclay guiding department. But it's hard to not look at what the cowboys have done. It defensive tackle and think that it is an emphasis from Michael McCarthy and Jim Tom Soula wanting you know some elite presence there and I'm sure if if I was working mcreilly taking one look what the cowboys did over. The last decade have been like. Hey why don't you put somebody good there and maybe something good will happen yeah. I think it's a thumbprint of the combination of Mike. Mccarthy Michael Nolan In opposite management to go out and get the players that they need and you know Kristen competent people whose at me. That's the point is. You're not going to miss that dude me. He came as In basically it was a was a player. Give him some reps and hopefully gives added depth. But he wasn't as big time. Playmaker sell you know you bring guys in they're gonNA make a contribution and we don't know what these guys can do. I mean we thank on paper and You. Brits and incredibly rich is a tremendous draft no CD LAMB. Who would have thought he be there. Seventeen assists the at that time. I was little. You know why they do that but I get it considering. The rest of the pathway ended up happen happening. I mean UNITA another wide receiver boat. I mean these kind of a can't miss. Is the restaurant and giving up desert in this restaurant snow for dessert? And I'm sorry I gotTa have my dessert or so but the the thing about is like five years RJ. We'll we'll find out we'll find out if if if never gallimore a EMESA third round pick so really the risk and reward is I mean. There's a lot of upside to it. You mentioned seed lamb and you know I don't. I don't know what restaurant is famous for. Dessert. But I need to go there as soon as this is over but I don't view it that same way 'cause I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but that makes it sound like he's a bit of a luxury. I think that I mean you think about how often. Nfl teams play out of eleven personnel. Now and so you know in that respect. He's almost a starter I mean he's he's fringe starter in. I mean he's a significant player. Whoever that person is and so two to have a B C D lamb and who? Who was a week ago who was their third receiver? But I don't even call it slot receiver who is their third receiver. Devin Smith said. You're you know what I mean so it. It was a need. I mean it wasn't as big of a NITA's edge rusher or corner or maybe even defensive tackle even with the free agency additions but it was certainly a need. It was if if anything the only real need on offense center. Obviously you know a little bit with the Travis writer for tying and they did address that as well but What did what was your favorite part of game. You watched a lot of sooner football. Obviously in half a long time What do you like? My greatest moments of watching them play was against taxes. And I'M NOT SAYING GO BACK. And watch the anchors. The there's one play where he makes a catch and what he's able to do with the ball after catches it he's like we did and on and just see so fluid and he's got nice sized he's making runs good routes explosive enough. He's exposed to enough thing if getting choked up because he's talking about just thinking about the potential hair and it's how great it's GonNa be crime you know in for the Eagles and the giants and the Redskins But Yeah I think that that's to him when you watch him play He sticks out because obviously going to be a lot different when you come. Nfl But he's got an upside. He's at the Suncani and billy with his body position to make plays and he's exposer. He's got good character. I think he's a good kid. He's coach and he's not one of these cocky dudes it all. Hey I'm in the. Nfl matured up. I think he understands it and I think they valued that sure I mean he is. He's built like a monster and he's incredibly fast. He's incredibly agile. He's great after the catch. There's no rhyme or reason to not be over the Moon in love with the CD Land. Pick and then I. I mean to go a little bit beyond that. A little bit but Trayvon digs afterwards. I mean you know a guy who many people project to be much. Better guys playing cornerback. For two years at Alabama. I mean again I just. There's there's not a sector of the draft class that is not worth throwing a party over. You know what I mean like it. It's one of those things that like. You ever have a night when you're out or whatever and it just like you know it's like you know this has been cool. It's another one in the bar hop whatever the you know you're kind of worried like is going be as good because I was having a great time here. You know what I mean and then you go and it's better and you're like how did this get better? I just I couldn't have seen that coming and those nights in my time rumors ones but you know it was a good time. But you know you mentioned Whether you need a player or whatever the case may be you take the best player available and difference between CD Lamb and some of the other graphics. Trayvon digs I think he'll he'll be completely plugged in there as hopefully with along with all the other. Db's they have contributed a CD lands. Me Can plug them in right away and I think the learning the learning gap is is not going to be as much. Cd because he is you know he's got a certain amount of skill set now he's GonNa have to learn. Obviously the nuances of defensive backs National Football League but I think you can say okay minutely you know. This is a can't miss guy we can mainly putting man and I think another thing. Rj is a lot of people. Get all caught up and the number one receiver main. There's a number that can be a one-two-three receiver that can make a lot of contributions throughout the offense. But I think was sitting lamb. He's going to be a great target is giving them like multitude multiple multiple opportunities at the receiving position. But I just think that he's a very impactful player and as soon as he gets into the system he'll be able to make plays compared to some of these other guys need some more growth. I think that defensive back positions a lot harder position navigate and get ahold of these. You know these guys are fast and space and just totally different way. You covered the national football. I think wide receivers much easier but it doesn't. It comes a little fast. Sure it will end its again. Easier is not the right word but we'll just use it. It's easier when you've also joining a wide receiver room in an offense that has Amari Cooper that has Michael God that has you know what I mean. You're throwing out of order bag into a system whenever they don't have anybody around him but immediately he's like the incumbent he's gotTa play will S. I'M GONNA work out very well for them. It's like Dak is first year when he came in. You know he started mean. Had A lot of things around. Missed a great quarterback Great running back so as easy for him to have to take a take advantage of this learning the learning curve. So something that I don't think is being touched on enough. is Dak Prescott. And by the way which said it already on all of our shows but just to reiterate again our thoughts and prayers. Tony is both with stack. And his family off last week But so to talk about on the field so last week before the draft Bob who's covered the Green Bay packers forever. I does it now for the athletic was on the around the NFL podcasts last week and it was just kind of talk in the draft and different things that were thought they were going to happen and whatnot and obviously because you covers the Green Bay packers. The central for the packers came up. And you know there was a lot of talk going into the draft. The packers giving Aaron Rodgers weapons. And obviously that didn't happen. The way packers fans wanted which is funny enough. But he said this Tony This is his exact quote. He said Mike McCarthy if he told me this once he told it to me twenty times. His goal was to make the quarterback look great. That was his entire goal as a coach number one objective. Now first of all you look at what the packers are doing. And it's it's in no way you know doing what they can to To make my you know rodgers. Great drafting another quarterback really isn't helping that and so that's funny enough in and of itself however the CD land pick look okay. If if you're going to invest in your quarterback which the cowboys are going to do at some point it is going to happen. Dak Prescott will have a long term contract. You know what you should do. Make that dude bad ass. You know like people love to say Tony like who who would be if you didn't have Ziegler who would be if he didn't have Amari who cares. He he has them. You know what I mean like. He he has them so you know it's a good idea. If you have a really good quarterback give him some really good weapons and that way. The offense will be awesome. I I know you and I both agree. That is really good in sending player and so to give him. This is you mentioned. Two Thousand Sixteen and that offense was very good that jumped into his rookie. But this is without question. The greatest cast that especially from a skill position standpoint the DAX going to have throughout his NFL career to this point. Because in two thousand sixteen DEZ and terrance Williams and call Beasley or a great wide receiver trio and no nothing to poop on them but they were all what they were. Dads was your ex. Terrence was your why call was your Z. That was it now. You have three dudes that can do everything. And they're so versatile it's going to be great for him. Yeah. I think you've surrounded with a lot of great tools and it's offense align is another. They're you know they lost Travis Frederick to retirement but you know they drafted a guy that hopefully can plug in or you know Joe Donnelly. He's he's He's a backup center So they they've surrounded with rate weapons and I just love when people say I. Will you know? That's why so good. Because he got so many people around him well. Isn't that what your goal is to surround yourself with the you know the greatest playmakers and you know cocoon your quarterback when throwing the ball so I mean a lot of teams was a you know had had that problem but the execution part of it is is something that you have to really churn Barcon and that's going to be a new system and things of that nature so Without a doubt I mean you look at a you look at who they have now on offense align you know. They're they're running back position. The wide receivers It's it's a great opportunity for Dak Prescott now and the question is you know you're gonNA sign Dak Prescott to long-term deals you're GONNA do the franchise tag but without a doubt. This is a great way that he can thrive and even take his game to the next level. You know on the subject of long-term Dealer Franchise. Tag I mean. I don't think you build this offense where you've re-signed Amari. You've got Zeke on a big deal you've got your online locked up. Granted a new center. You just extended. You're starting tied end and Blake Darwin. You just drafted CD lamb. I don't think you do all that just to hit the reset button quarterback in like in a weird way it almost gives you more leverage you know what? I mean because like you have this incredible fighter jet you know what I mean and you need a an elite pilot to fly it. You know what I mean. Yeah you can't you know what? Bend Nucci kind of guy you hand this over to. You know what I mean so in in a weird way it kind of gives. Dak More Leverage I wrote about this time in some curious. I'll ask you this Win The cowboys will be in eleven personnel this season. What is the weakest part of their offense? And so this is the whole offense all right so offensive line. And what will pencil in Joe Looney at Center you get Tired Smith? We'll go connor Williams at left guard. who did go to the University of Texas again. Everybody makes mistakes Joe. Looney Zack Martin. Lyle Collins attack at quarterback. You Got Zeke at running back. You've got Blake Darwin. A tight end. And then you've got Amari Gallup and CD lamb. What's the weakest spot there? The three options because I included a poll that I came up boys were Connor Williams at Left Guard. Joe Looney at center or Blake Darwin at tied. Those are those are the ones that stand at say. Stand out like you know. It's a big deal but Those are the ones that stand out to me. Yeah I mean calling Williams. It'll be third year. We know he kinda had that the first year of just being able to transition and adjust. Anything came on last year before he got hurt a little bit so. I mean Joe Loony. He's not Travis Frederick. I mean it's very difficult in your replacing Future you know maybe a hall of Famer in just the success. He's had as a player and you know Blake Jar and I'm not. I'm not really GonNa Bind Blake Jar and be okay. I think Blake joins going to have tremendous year. But if I had to say about all the you know the personnel on there the other you know the Levin guys that would be the weakest part of that if it is Which could really just be really strengthen them John. Those three places. So that's where I that's where I look at But you know when you mention Dak Prescott you know if he gets got he plays under underneath the under the franchise shack. She's GonNa make thirty three thirty five million dollars a year right okay. Well considering and look I don't think he's GonNa thank this because I don't think he wants to wait anymore because he deserves to get a new contract. What if it this is the best opportunity for him as far as putting up numbers? Look I'll go out. I'll go out and I'm light it up up some big numbers and you're GonNa have to pay me forty million that's your thinking about it. I mean it's a little poker and so both poker on both sides but if you're Dak Prescott they can which is drafted a hell of a playmaker. Cd Lamb we may be or last year. You know throw for over five thousand yards. Goodness yeah okay. Let's let's let's peel this onion back. Because so we know the Dako bet on himself last year right because he went into the final year of his rookie contract and now is has the leverage that he has to your point. If let's say you and I are representing Dak right so now. We're just focused grouping right. We're saying well. How do we want to approach this? Maybe the thought processes looked to cowboys just drafted. Cd Lamb like you just said Tony deck dominated last year with Randall Cobb in the slot. Imagine no offense. Randall COBB But imagine what he's going to look like when CD LAMB is out there. I mean you know to your point. Maybe he hits five thousand yard so and so not only. Is that working for Dag? But and we've said this several times and believe me. I'm not saying that will be better than this guy in any way but the PAT mahomes deal is coming around the corner right. So what if we just wait to time this up right then? What if we just wait and you know whatever whatever comes first dead kicks ass with CD LAMB and the offense pam homes deal. Whatever of these two things happens. I design Watson's deal. All that's going to do is hike up our number. So that's that's why unless unless tax team is just overwhelmed or the cowboys agreed to a four year. Deal as opposed to five year deal. There's absolutely no incentive for deck to sign that deal. Well the only would be is look. I don't want to risk getting hurt guy. Just WANNA go ahead. But you'RE STILL GONNA make thirty three thirty five million but you're not going to be guaranteed seventy eighty or whatever. That number may be so data that guarantees going to be over one hundred hundred. Whatever it is I just don't out there but I mean that's the that's the risk that you take and I don't know I don't think that we as players think that way because they're thinking about what we need to get now and and we don't think about well let me go out and ball another year. And do you think they're gonNA will they pay me a next year? Am I gonNA be able to put up the same numbers? I'm going to be able to to stay. Injury-free stay on the field. So there's a lot of parameters because there's no there's no guarantee that Jerry Jones say I'll take care you dak. I mean that doesn't happen me as much as we think that look Jerry. Whatever owner is grains excited about me to do risk for a reason right so I mean that's the risks But if he's really stuck on that number if he has to hold out that's something he wants to entertain. I think it's up to him but I think think that's a scenario neekam. Look at but still again. You're risking your career risking your you know as far as getting injured in a lot of parameters or go into that yet. Thank about a kind of feels like you know how like the classic. Somebody's going to walk a tight rope between two buildings type thing right like if if that's what this was. Adding CD lamb was like adding a safety net underneath. You know what I mean like. It's still terrifying. And it's dangerous but you now know that that netted their worst case in that mix. I think it's all speculation too because things happen. So what can offense alignment can get hurt? Means part of the injuries are part of the game. So that's the way you can look at it. But I don't think that that Prescott Sofala Kirk cousins Kirk cousins hell on what he franchise franchising three years in a row. I don't think that that's what he wanted. Me Kirk cousins. He turned out pretty good. Made a hell of a lot of money. I mean when we look back on kirk cousins career probably going to rank up there besides patch mahomes and some of these other quarterback. Eli Manning made over two hundred twenty five million dollars and sour. Well the reality too is when when Levian Bell held out and everything he said. I'm doing everything I'm doing for the future of the running back position. That didn't you know as noble as that was that didn't really have the intended effect but Kirk did have an effect Kirk Revolution not revolutionize but significantly impacted the way you know pending free agents. Go about what they're gonNA do. Kirk Kirk provided the avenue to use your leverage which Dak is not quite doing but Dacca's potentially in on the precipice of doing himself RJ. Who's better quarterback if you put better quarterback that's my point. I mean decades and what Kirk did open the door for if Dak wanted to. Go down that road you know. Kirk Kirk blazed that trail boys. I always best that face it. He trailblazer that path. You know what I'm saying like Kirk Kirk Sued. Who went down first and set up the signs turn left to your you know what? I mean like whatever and maybe go down that path but to your point. Dax a better quarterback so that going down it would make more wealthy and kirk cousins to me. Seems like he's not the daccord else is getting paid them a lot of money. Very grateful that look. I'm just glad to be here. I don't think that Prescott now thank nights like. I'm the franchise quarterback for the Dallas. I had a hell of a year last year. It's time it's it's my turn. That's the way I did you another Kirk. Cousins is a San Antonio Spurs Fan. There is not a bad. Yeah I interviewed at the Super Bowl in Houston and it was. It was at the puppy bowl exhibits. I had to like walk through a bunch of puppies to interview him. Thanks San Antonio all comes comes in comes around when we mentioned players. I mean look the reality is Kirk is at Spurs guy. I mean so you know. And he went to Michigan State so did Bryn Forbes. I think I read. There's no need for that anyway. So Okay Gimme another rookie. That you're excited about part of this strategy and we've talked about this class for you know. Blend lots and lots and lots of time. But we've already talked about Neville got. We basically talked about the sooners. But other than that we talked about digs a little bit. Reggie Robinson tickle your fancy Bradley Anaya Tyler beyond dish I mean you know maybe you are a Benvenuto guy who's who else stands out to you I like Bradley and I think he's got a lot of upside to him. I like the corner from Tulsa. It was it was it was at conference conference. Usa Player the year defensive player of the year. I mean they've changed so many times in person told but he's got a lot of upside to ability according to Jerry. You just watch. And we haven't even talked about him being on that yacht and the way they did the Nevoso. Jrs May from the Dallas. You know the billionaire dude but anyway I think the defensive van me he dropped a he dropped in a draft. I read about. He didn't run a good forty time. But then I went back and watch this watch this tape on Youtube and adduce got a lot of upside. Who cares the guy that doesn't run a four six man? I mean as long as he can get by edge. Be a good edge. Rusher in and be a playmaker. I think that may be I. You know I'M GONNA costly approaches. But that may be a deal. I'm excited about what he can do. And and and look as I mentioned earlier. In our on our podcast. We'll see three or four five years you know. We saw what happened when talk. Oh Charlton when it comes to edge rusher in the conversation but I liked that pick. I like the senator from Wisconsin. I mean there's a lot of I mean. That's the eagles traded cowboy boots thing. It's hard not to get excited because when you have a knee and there's your value and get really good value picks. It's hard not to automatically get excited but walk novelty wears off RJ. And it's all about going on in in transition and plan and seeing how to adjust and see what these guys do. That's when he started holding all your judgement so Daniel Jeremiah. The top trapped analyzed from. Nfl media tweeted out on Monday. His top value picks from every round. So he tweeted out where they were picked and where he had them ranked and he went through. Every single ranches. Did the top of that round so Bradley. Anaya was obviously the fifth round You know a guy that he had on that list Daniel Jeremiah had Bradley ranked as his seventy fifth overall player. And the cowboys. Got Him at one. Seventy nine for an overall net value plus one. Oh Four. That's pretty good. That's a good investment unbelievable a great investment value stock right there so I WANNA get Jerry's yacht to close out before that We have an article about about this on the side and we put out a photo on social channels These are notable and available current. Nfl free agents town. So I'm going to read through this real quick and you tell me if anybody just tickles your fancy. So we've got four addresses on the list. Uncloudy Everson Griffen Marcus. Golden and Klay Matthew. So obviously has familiarity with Mike McCarthy. We've got four safety Morgan. Burnett Clayton Gathers Tony Jefferson Reshad Jones again. The cow is dead already bringing ha ha Clinton dix. We have some offensive tackles. If you're you know not thrilled about them The state of them cowboys still somewhat in the market for a swing tackle Kelvin Beecham Jason Peters free agent at the moment Demar Dotson and cordy Glenn and then we have five cornerbacks on this list again. The cowboys did draft both digs. And Reggie Robinson but you never know especially if they move cheeto over to safety like it's been flooded out that would provide a need. Obviously AT CORNER PRINCE AMUKAMARA. Eli Apple Darkwa Denard Logan Ryan and Drake Kark Patrick who they were somewhat connected to before the draft. Do any of those names on that list. Make you WANNA get out of your chair and shout for value if you can get them in a good price. I've always liked clay matthews. I always like his energy. I always think that he's a dude that can give you a kind of reminds me of a Chris Long right now on his career. The Chris Law may apply for Philadelphia. And then was. He'd pee can be address Russia or give you probably fifteen snaps twenty snaps a game. Jay Jason Peters Not Jason Peters. Yeah the deep offense tackle Or the former. I guess former obviously for the eagles made the cowboys. Native tackle backup tackle. And it'll be a swing tackle. The that'd be Kinda weird when I and I don't know maybe he's had some injured. Bob's I don't know where he pretend right now as far as health and what he can dictate on the market. But I think those two guys again. It'd be really weird man him blocking for for. Dak Prescott and when I go play the eagles considering all these damn years the played against each other and that but I. I think really those two guys when I may. It's not just the name brand. Clearly he's going to be out of the ballpark estimate naming comments that we've gotten so we're talking about talking value like the draft. The cowboys had which was spectacular. I like those two names okay. That's fair again all the responses. We've gotten a cloudy cloudy cloudy but I don't know that I was doing anything I mean. It's hard not to be actually say this. I was going to say it's hard not to be pleased. But I'M GONNA re rephrase there. It's hard not to trust. What the twenty twenty cowboys. You're doing they've I think Given a lot of reason to trust what they're doing they seem prepared. They seem well organized. They seem like somebody who has a major voice. Tony has spent the last year preparing for an opportunity to build another NFL team. Mike McCarthy seems like I dude. He's got all his ducks in a row. Just everything has happened and the way you think Jerry could have had a fantasy drained shot and think. Oh my God. I'm going to get these this. I'M NOT GONNA have to come out of my skin and that's the thing about this draft. Rj they didn't have to come out of their skin their patient and everything just kind of fell in place and so you rather be lucky than good right right well and then when they did kind of just a little bit jump up when they traded up to draft the center out of Wisconsin again. They're throwing away a fifth round pick. You know they're going to have three Tampax next year. Anyway I mean I. I like that move. That's that's an a used the word aggressive because it was technically aggressive. But that's that's the right way to play poker. That's the right like yeah I'll raise you know I'm the big blind eye. We're doubling up. You know what I mean like. That's kind of what that felt like to me right. Yes they draft. Jalen hurts and they drafted the fifth round. Pick in the cowboys drafted the center. The film boy deposition so enclosing you've already hinted about Jerry's yacht. What is the most elaborate place that you've ever been with Jerry Jones? I'm trying to think well I haven't been on a two hundred fifty million dollars so I'm trying to think I haven't been I haven't been in invited any of those types of parties and when you say elaborate I'll I'll put it this way. What's the most are. What's one of the most Jerry Jones things that's ever happened when you've been around Jerry Jones like whether it's a certain you know spread is on the record? Dalby when we're talking. I'll rephrase it for the final time and just say I were you at all surprised to see Jerry Jones on a quarter billion dollar. Answer your first question. It's kind of like around. I think the best most probably the most flamboyant or probably the most disc- lassic advance. I've been to. I didn't go to that. Ten million dollar was I didn't I didn't go when he got inducted. Approach Colorado Right. Yeah. We'RE GONNA go this year. Hopefully they have again this year ryen induction but when they had the owners meeting at the for the Super Bowl at the stadium. Eighteen nine thousand six. I believe it was that the Ice Floe Alice. That was January. Twenty Eleven January. A date myself a little bit That was pretty cool but but I think when he unveiled was eleven years eleven years when they opened up a the new. The new stadium spectacular unbelievable unveiling of the stadium and that was pretty. That was pretty tight As far as a two hundred and fifty dollar item that was great and I love first of all. I love the virtual draft. I think it was interesting. Rj because you got the C What what is really like you know you saw kids. You know they weren't in a million dollar home Parents Living Room. You saw was kind of raw raw emotion. You saw the owners different guys. I mean you saw coats Bro. You know setting up. Chiku said his is Bachelor Pad Arizona Clinton's buried and then you had a check with his little dog in his kitchen. Whatever he had jerry man set the standard who just raised the damn bar played the part of Arts of Jr from Dallas Man. Just knock it out of the park. It's spectacular it was cool to see like some prospects some draftees with like like you know how. I mean you just went through this When when kids graduate high school and they have like the graduation and like the banner. You know what I mean. The they hang in the yard like that was so cool just to see. Says you know Abrasive on me and it was. It was just raw this very candid. Emotion it was school last one. Give me a letter grade for the couch class. I gotTa go away I way plus Let's name but right now. I mean you gotta give them a name for what they did and patient and just filling a need for forever you know to the pick that they need and put a cherry on top of the bill to draft seating lamb at seventeen. I just put them over the over the top well spectacular. Congratulations cowboys. I'LL GIVE HIM A. I mean not for the same reason I it's impossible to give an a plus maybe if in five years they're all on hall of fame trajectories. We'll give it a plus but It's it's as good as it can be Which is what you WanNa be so well done. Well Tony. We'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK. to To do this again and by the way into the picture of US doing our podcast like our new digs now. So that's what I was GonNa say we We did alter for the listener. We did alter the recording software. So if you think it worked or it sounded terrible Let us know. Tony is on twitter C. Casillas. I'm on twitter at RJ OCHO and On over there you can see tony talking about who knows what may be You know maybe Jerry's yacht or whatever but anyways will see everybody next week. Have a good one. This was the seven five Oh.

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